New Rory & MAL - Episode 117 | The Blokes Get Wet In London ft. Shelly FKA DRAM

Episode Date: November 8, 2022

Live from London, the mandem hit the ground running. Following a few pints with the blokes we went to BBC 1Xtra to talk about the Queen (most likely removed) and share some R&B records with DJ Ace. Then Rory, Eddin, and Benner connected with Rory’s long lost cousin…and a prostitute. While that was happening Mal, Julian, and Loyan embarked on what would become the most adventurous experience of the trip: Booking a table at The Box (do your googles). My fingers are still sticky while writing this description. We left the club at 4am, which is exactly when ‘Her Loss’ was released. While Serena Williams appears to be the “her” garnering the most attention, Drake made it clear that it’s everyone’s loss, leading to more controversy. This episode also features an exclusive sit down with DRAM, which was previously recorded a couple weeks ago. Listen in as the guys discuss all of this + more! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoicesSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Man, man, sound to the crowd I bring. Hey, shift at them, make a good drink. There, I'm going as quick as a bling. Welcome to a new episode, a special episode of the new Roryan Mall podcast. For the Mandam. Yes. I am all. I am Mazdom.

And we are back with a special episode. We had an episode of a episode. earlier, well last week where, you know, we just felt like it was, it was only fit in. We didn't really want to talk about much after, you know, unfortunate passing of takeoff, rest of the peace. R.P. Yeah. To Kersnick.

And prayers and condolences to his family. So we cut the episode short last week only because nothing else really, we didn't really feel like speaking on anything after that. It wasn't nothing that we cared to even talk on. It was just still kind of just, you know, a real down. and sad time, and it still is, uh, yeah, unfortunately. But, um, you know, as always, as it will forever be, life must move forward and we must move forward even in grief, even in sadness, even in, you know, traumatic times. So we are in London.

Yes, we are. We are in London, came to see the beautiful people in London. Uh, in an undisclosed basement. Undisclosed basement. An underscosed flat. And an underscosed flat from, uh, an undisclosed friend of the pod. Mm-hmm. Man, them. So we are here. Is it safe to say we're international?

Because we have friends. I think so, man. I got a stamp on my passport. Rory was mad because customs has changed a little bit. Now everything is automated. They're even getting rid of the custom agents. First of all, was I corny for feeling that way? Because I thought.

No. A little bit. I understand it. You want to get your passport stamped up like Little Wayne said. Yeah, man. Drake or Wayne? Get a passport. Jay said, you don't have enough stamps in your passport to phone with a young age show.

And one, I don't. And this wouldn't have made. did able to fuck with him. Yeah, yeah. One is not going to change it. I promise you that. I was just upset, like, which is crazy, because I fucking hate customs so much. Yeah.

And it was the easiest, quickest customs ever. Like, it feels like they're fixing shit. Mm-hmm. But then I was pissed. I would have waited in line for my state. The world is changing. Now you all you have to do is scan your passport, scan your face. They scan my face for my ticket on the plane.

I'd never seen that my life. Yeah, when we boarded a plane, you don't even have to show your boarding pass. You don't have to show your passport is literally just look at the camera. Fucking Elon, man. Yeah. So, I mean, but that's... He has anything to do with that. But that goes back to something I had said during the pandemic when we all knew that this was just information that they were trying to just gather and data.

When you get off the plane, remember they had they had like the soldiers that had just signed up. Oh, please. And they made them like, you have to sign and you have to give them your email. It's like, bro, I literally booked a flight. They have all my information. Just get the manifest of the fucking flight log info. And you will have the info of every passenger. Like, why am I filling out this paper after I got up this flight?

You know that person that they hired to like just stand in front of the. Block Street when construction is happening. Yeah. They literally don't. They do nothing. They used to treat the U.S. soldiers like that. It would stand out of a flight and we all walk past them and they'd be like, yo, do the survey or whatever.

Yeah, you have to fill this up. Those are the ones that just signed up. They just kept moving. That's them trying to get some skin in the game. The National Guard. Yeah, yeah. Like, yo, just send them to the airport and let them just get information from every passenger. But so, yes, things changed.

We just got to the, but I don't know why. I think it's still kind of racist that I got asked to see the agent. Like, I scanned my passport and they saw. my black face and said, I'll go see an agent. Yeah. I was like, oh, the Irishman, because we're an hour flight from Dublin, he gets to just scan his face and they're like, oh, yes, he's one of us. Yeah, right this way, Mr. Ferrell. I feel safer.

My black ass, I had to go talk to an agent, show my work visa, all kind of shit. Well, that's because the English owners. Yes. So they'd already put a stamp on me. They'd right when I arrived, they're like, oh, my property. He has returned. Finally, where were you? Return to sender.

Yeah, that's exactly what happened. So we're in London. We were doing the BBC radio, which is a bit. Well, it's aired already by the time you're hearing this. As well as our live show. Do you think that they cut? Our live show is aired. Yes.

You've already seen our live show. And it went incredible. It was a special. Amazing show ever. Do you think they'll cut out my compliment of London? Yes. A thousand percent. 100%.

That did not make the floor. That was supposed to be what? 10 minutes. They'll probably go live. live with seven. I mean, I thought it was great. Why I love London is because as a straight, white, Irish American, it's the only place I'm allowed to feel oppressed. I don't know about that. It's the only, it's, the only oppression has happened here. Yes. This is, this country has oppressed. Yeah, it's the only time. I'm only allowed to complain

in this country. Yeah. So we had, we had sat down with a DJ Ace. Yeah. At one, uh, BBC radio for the R&B show. Do you think, uh, they cut out us screaming where's Pierce Morgan? Absolutely. Yes, none of that made, I promise you none of that is in the queen jokes too. Yeah. Oh, for sure. The royal family jokes definitely did make it. I felt bad because all Ace wanted to talk about was R&B.

And we just started screaming about, where's the queen of a bone to pick with her? That's what I mean, what else were we supposed to do? We got to have fun. So, yeah, our live show happened last Saturday. Yes. And we are back to talk about what is new, what is current, what is going on in the culture. And I guess the biggest. news would be the Drake 21 Savage, her loss project.

Yeah. But let's, before we get into that, before we get into that, let's get into everyone's London swag. Okay. Well, London,

well, we're filming, we're recording this and our swag isn't over yet. I know, but it's only, but we've been 24 hours in London. I think it was a,

out the gate, everyone pretty much established what their London swag was by day one. Fuck. And it's cool. We were the ones that we stayed to the side. We're on the same lines. You thoughties.

from Charlotte to London. Oh, so yeah. Part two, from Charlotte to the box. Jesus Christ. But if we had to... I don't skip over to Drake. No, no, no, no.

You were getting pissed on last night. Oh, I definitely didn't get pissed on. We were way outside the splash zone. Yeah, we were definitely didn't, weren't in the splash zone. So we went out to dinner. Do they have a line like which tables? Absolutely. Gotcha.

Is that like certain comedy shows you don't want to sit up front so you get heckled? It's the same thing. Trust me. The stage right here. You don't want these tables that are right in front of this. Did you wear this raincoat just in case? No, I had another raincoat on. I had another raincoat on just the case, not this one.

So we went out to dinner last night. We was at the short ditch house. And my new home. We decided, we was like, yo, you know what? Let's go see. Let's go to the box. We keep hanging about the box, the box, the box. Some lovely lady loaks took you guys there.

Yeah. So I've been handed about it for years. I'm like, okay, let's check it out. Let me see what this is all about because every time somebody I know it comes to London, it keeps now you got to go to the box. It's a show, it's a sex show. You know, some wild, sexy, kinky shit going on. But it's, it's entertainment.

Yes. So I was like, okay, I'm not, you know, none of that. You don't slut shame. No, I don't slut shame. I don't sex shame. Whatever you're into, that's your prerogative. So I'm like, okay, let me, let's go. Let's figure it out.

Hang out with Edon. I'm not, you know, I don't judge him. Yeah. So, um, I thought that we were all going to go, but obviously, you know, people, to you were tired of Benner, everybody. So I understood it. So I was saying I was tired or tired of Benner or both.

All of the above. And you ended up with better still. That is very true. Couldn't shake him. Thought he's going to the box. So Julian and Loyan and myself with some other friends, we all went to the box. The man that controls our finances. You took.

No, no, no, no, we're going to get into that. We're going to have another account issue in the video. I promise you, we're going to have, from what I saw last night, we're going to have a series account issue. We need to check the books again on ourselves. I promise you. Loyon's hands were full. He couldn't touch the books.

So we go to the box. And we're outside And it's from the time we got there I already knew I said okay This is The spot It was packed outside People you know

The same New York thing Trying to talk to the girl at the door Talk to the bouncer Trying to get in Yeah So then a young lady comes out And she's talking to one of the girls That we with

They live here They know her So they're like And one of them is a DJ So she's known So it's like okay Come on in So we walk in

From the time we walked in And I looked at Julian I was like We have to get a camera But having the plug at the box is hilarious. Like, oh, they don't even stop me at the door at the box. Like, what do you be doing in your time to get a rep like that? Yeah.

I mentioned that to mall because when we walked up, it was in a tight little alleyway. It's raining. It's heavy rain. Like, it's not like... It felt like a Batman movie. Yeah. It did. It was a Gotham alleyway.

And when we walk in, I was like, that was kind of a red flag that she was like, buddy, buddy with everyone at the door. So we got escorted to the table. That's a green flag to me. Yeah. No, we got escorted to the table. Wave that freak flag. As high as you can. No, as soon as we walked in, I said, okay, I know what this is.

The way it's set up, the way the table's positioned alongside the wall and things like that, the stage is right there. I'm like, okay, I get it. Which girl was it? Was it the one you had saw the night before or the one you went? Okay. Yeah. She looks like, I've never been to the box, obviously, but she looks like she would be welcomed with open arms. Even that first night, everywhere we went.

She knew everyone. Yeah. I mean, I'm sure her transitions are great, but that's not what I'm referring to. She was just giving me a. On the party scene, you would know people at clubs if you're a DJ. Okay. Yeah, right on. Yeah, no, no, clean it up.

I'm just saying, no, I don't want to put the wrong perception out there about this girl. But I'm also with her. We don't even even said her name. No, I know that, but I still don't want to. Fictitious character. I still don't want to paint the wrong picture. But she obviously knows people on the party. I've already apologized.

Last episode, too, woman. So never mind. Yeah. I'm sure you're amazing. Yeah. She's not. She's super. And that was the one thing me and Julian said all night, like, yo, super cool, super hospitable.

Like, the, they laid out. They like, yo, listen, like, yeah, we're good here, we're good here. It was just a good, a good night. We didn't have to really, like, spend too much time sitting outside. Everything was dope. Get in. Music is good. First thing Julian says, yo, the sound system is crazy.

How do they warm you guys up? What type of music are they playing? It was a little bit of everything. A little Kim. They played a little, they had a little mix of Lady Mama Limea. Techno, some hip-hop. It started more with the house. Yeah, a little bit of a house.

Yeah, it was a, but it was a mix. It wasn't like, you know, sometimes you go to clubs and you're like, I has two. much of this. Yeah. It wasn't like that. It was like a cool. And then it was us. We were talking and having conversations.

So then one of the waitress, the waitress comes around. She says, yo, the show is going to start in 10 minutes. Two drink minimum? No, no. We got a table. We got a table. So she came around. She was like, the show's going to start.

She was letting us know, like, so if you got to go to the bathroom, go now. Because the shows are going to go to the bathroom. Yeah, they're going to go to the bathroom. This is the only time that the bathroom is available. They've been holding it. The bathroom is closed after this. If you want no lines, now is your chance. Now's your chance.

I was like, you know what? Cool. Me and Julian run to the bathroom, come back. Yeah. Show starts. Urinals are just like the floor was just. No. It's a clean bathroom, urinals, toilets, toilets.

Gotcha. Come back. So then a lady comes out and it's like, oh, this is like a burlesque. Yeah. This is like a real show type of thing. And the show went on. Nice, nice ratio? Yeah.

great. It was a good mixing there. It was a real, real good crowd. I just wouldn't want to be around like a bunch of dudes. No, no, no, no. There was the MC and she was incredible vocalist. She was an amazing, amazing singer. So she came out and she sang some songs and had the girls on stage dancing and, you know, then they started taking clothes off. And it was, okay, the show started. And we knew kind of sort of what to expect, but it's one of those things that you can hear about it. you can hear about it, but you have to be there to experience it. I'm like, oh, okay, I get it. We were expecting the most absolute, craziest, wildest shit.

But it was like, okay, lady comes out singing, some background, some girls dancing on stage, take their tops off. Nice. Make out. Yeah, this is. Nice. It's nice. Cool, right? LGBTQ friendly.

Yeah. Super friendly. Super friendly space, right? I love that women are able to kiss each other. And the second act was even better for mall. You love the second act. Oh, okay. Wait, I don't remember which the second act was.

Kitty Cat? Oh, man. So this is this lovely girl. Excuse me? I love a little girl named Kitty Cat. You know we loved the animals. It wasn't her name, but. Yeah, it wasn't her name, but how do you know?

We didn't see her ID, but her name was Kitty Cat. And she comes out and she's, we immediately established that she's very bendy, flexible. Contortionist. Yeah, got very flexible. Yeah. Nice shape. Jimist. Yeah, if you will.

She has, I don't know if it was whole milk, skin milk. Oat milk. She had a container of milk. Okay. And, you know, she was kitty cat. So, you know, you say cats love milk, whatever. I've needed. Yeah, cats are 2% usually.

Yeah. I think whole milk is of the past. I don't know. Cats may be lactose, but whatever. So she starts pouring milk on her. She clearly wasn't. Yeah, she could. No, no.

Kitty cat clearly was not lactose. And she was, you know, in like the old movies where the people are ducking lasers and to go steal the diamond. She's doing all those moves. She's doing all that. She's doing all that. She's a cat. She grabs the.

a liter of milk with her foot and then just pours it on herself like oh god it was it was great it was oh so someone like danny ocean should have recruited her absolutely and he could have fucked absolutely oh he would have beat yeah and um so kitty cat does her number pours milk on her all on the stage she's spinning around does her hit record doing yeah brink dancing she spit she like projectile spit all over the crowd no okay no people thirsty in the front yeah yeah sure tongues are out um so then the the curtains close on that on that on that on that cat cat cat cat cat cat and crunch everywhere. Yeah.

Curtain's closed on that act. Boom. And then. Standing ovation? Oh, God. Mall and I were. Only Mall. Me and Julie would go crazy.

Besides yourselves. I've been so many shows from malls. I've never seen him clap. No, this was like, I had to clap. I was like, I'm gonna need her. She's an artist. I was like, we need kitty cat out all night.

She needs a longer set. I didn't like the fact that they gave it such a small set. I was like, no. She needs more time on the main stage. She's paying her dues. Start out as an opener. I get it.

They're putting her through the ranks. She'll get to that gallon of milk eventually. Oh, my gosh. And then Julian's favorite actor tonight, Rosewood. No, really? Excuse me? I don't even know. I'm going to leave that one alone until you're explaining.

So Rosewood is a, is a, I don't want to. Yeah, go ahead. No, it's a trans. Oh, before, is this regular Julian or Julian off the chute? Or a bricked up Julian. I don't know. Was he bricked up? First of all, asking me that is crazy.

But I don't know. It's just Julia. But the entertainer Rosewood is, uh, I don't want, what's, I don't want, what's, Trans is it? She's a trans woman? Trans man? Yeah, I think born a man. Born man.

But has implanted breasts. So a trans woman. But still has a penis. A trans woman. So not full off. Trans woman. He said like a trans woman. A trans woman.

Okay. So trans woman entertainer named Rosewood comes out. Julian immediately looks at me. And I'm just like, okay, this, this set is not. We say, we could bring kitty cat back out right now. Like I'm cool with kitty cat. Was Rosewood off the chew? No.

No, no, no, he comes, so he came out, or she, she, she came out dress. Let's just say Rosie. Rose, Rose, Rose, Rozy. Rosie old wood. Let's just see it. Rosie old wood. Just because we're not sure exactly what she identifies as. Rosie came out.

And then the thing is, we didn't even, well, yes, you knew because of the build, but then you seen obviously the fake boobs. So it's like, okay. And then it was like William Defoe. Just be a dude that likes tits. Wait, wait, William Defoe. It was like William Defoe as the Green Goblin. It was that type of bill. Oh, okay.

Like, low-quered jack. Big boobs. Yeah, yeah. But, like, cartoonish, large boots. Like with the right trainer, could have went to the league, pulled an ACL. Yeah. Oh, for sure. And had to do this instead.

Gotcha. Absolutely. And we, you know, Rosewood came out, did her thing. No, you can't say that. You got to say what she did. I don't remember what the first. Oh, I remember. You blocked it out?

Yeah, like, I don't remember it because I remember. I didn't really watch. Yeah. Your brain protected you for a traumatic experience. It just that I was still, I was still so, you know, just. like living in the kitty cat moment. Yeah. That I was just like, you know, I just wish she would come back out and just do that with

oat milk. Like, you know, I was like, Molly just wanted her to go through all the milk. Yeah, go through all the milks. Like, do almond milk mix. Love almond milk. Yeah, like, you ever had almond? You ever have almond.

Yeah. I'm just like, bring kitty cat back out and let her do that with oat milk and almond milk. Like, that's all I was focused on. Yeah. But Rosewood had the set. And I didn't really, I wasn't really looking, but Julian got it. So, okay, Rosewood's first set.

Rosie comes out. And immediately turns. puts her back to the stage and I notice a string dangling between her legs. Cool. So there's something stuck somewhere. Gotcha. It's like a half a foot string. It looks like a little light shade.

A tampon string. Yeah. Well, not quite. So she does a number. She ends up stripping and then takes a piece of paper, covers the paper in lipstick. first puts lipstick all over the tits on the mouth. Naturally. Like, you know, just like if you gave a kid a lipstick, I mean, whatever.

Just go crazy. So the body was the canvas. I get the comparison, just a weird one in the scope. Yeah, I don't know I had to put a kid in there, but aren't. Well, let's carry on. You're not babysitting. It's only getting weirder. So she takes this sheet and puts it on over her ass, her covered her ass.

So it looked like her ass was in fact a vagina. Yeah. Okay. It was like hair on it. Yeah, exactly. Exactly. She drew some hair, like in the crack would represent the physical slit as the vagina. So it's very artistic. Yeah.

Art. Some man comes out, sits on the couch and is like throwing money at Rosie as if this is a private show. And it's just a two of them in the club. He's throwing these fake bills at her as she's prancing around. Immediately makes you guys the voyors of the situation without even consent. Welcome to the club. Well, we signed up. Did you guys understand the edit now?

Yeah. We were the Edens. Yeah. So anyway, I'll speed this up. So the, we noticed that she now has a, I would say, is it a bussy?

Bussy. Bussy. Like a butt pussy? Yeah. Exactly. No, that's boy pussy. Oh, it's boy pussy.

So then she starts, boy pussy. She starts tugging on the string. And then out comes like a six or seven inch. It looks like, you know, those firecracker popsicles when you were a kid. I'm going to do a lot of kids.

Like the red, white and blue. A lot of this was reminded. It was a childhood moment. Yeah. Um, so she. pulls out this thing and it's it's it's white to look like a tampon but the end of it is soaked in

some red juice to make it look like blood yeah okay and then she like swings it and throws that in the crowd nice uh throws it no sorry pardon me step back she sucks it first and then throws it in the cross she you know yeah i love shows when you you know yeah she's sanitized like it's like it's like keeping a foul ball at the game it's nothing like keeping it's like when the artist throws the towel it's like oh It's nothing like to keep the valve. How much would that sell for it? No, you take that to back.

Rosie's tampon or Judge's 60 first home, right? Definitely giving Rosie's tampon back. Like, here, I think you left this. So she does that. And then ultimately, there's a champagne bottle on the table in the fake club scenario. She sits on it. There's liquid. We call that boofing.

There's liquid in the bottle. We're hoping it's not champ. Because you never finished the whole body. We want to take it home with you. She would go. crazy in Rikers. Oh, they would love Roeanee.

What? Oh, my God. Every night would be the box Rikers. So, sneak everything. Something about that. Yeah, that's not good. Yeah.

Just sneak a tablet in there. She could single-annily fix all the problems at Rikers right now. And bring all prisoner awareness that we need. No, but, you know, it was just the experience of just being in the club and seeing things that you just wouldn't expect to see at a nightclub. Like,

wouldn't be in your, Search history. She squats on the bottle and then stands up and then sprays whatever liquid was in the bottle from her ass and then walks off to a rounding applause. Yeah. All stood up and just was elated. I think he asked for an encore. Well, the thing is you have to respect the entertainers and the performers. Like, as somebody that puts on a live show, I can appreciate when somebody is performing.

Like, you know, given your all. Yeah. You're all. Yeah. Which is what Rosie did. Yeah. I know. You're like, you know, the least you can do is clap.

So it's like, yeah. Pause, too. Dick was on Shmedium the whole time. Like, she was, it was out. Yeah. Like, it wasn't bricked. But it. That's it.

By the way, that takes confidence. Right? Yeah. I mean. Like, how long does it take until Shorty sees you soft? Yeah. Years. It takes a few.

Yeah. Years before you, like, completely walk around naked in front of a girl and you'll have no blood flowing to your dick. It's a level of confidence. It's just. Years. Like, you're just not letting the girl see like that. Like, Rosie was.

She can fart in front of me before. Oh, absolutely. I walk around just soft in the crib. So Rosewood came out, did her thing. And then the other girls came back out and did like a whole routine dance thing. So that went on. Family friendly. Yeah.

That went on for like maybe like 40 minutes. And then they go off, music back on for like another hour and a half party. Yeah. And then they get into another set. What the fuck? No, they ramped it up on the second set. Yeah. It's fire.

Like a man came out with blowing fire. things like that. That was a cool one. It was a show. It was it was 100% entertainment. It was a show burles sex type of thing. You know, it was a great experience though. Like, you know, it's not for everybody though. Like if you're one of those guys that, you know, the weird guys like, oh, what the fuck is that? Like, if you want to those type of guys, Charlotte would have hated it. Yeah, don't go to the box. Like, you can't. The city of Charlotte?

Like, the clubs we went to in Charlotte. You have to be from those type of city. Like, you're from New York. You're like, I see this on the subway going to work. Yeah, I see this. I see this on the subway. I see this. I see this on subway every day. Yeah, this is just the A train, yeah, in the city. This is the A train in Manhattan. This is nothing.

But if you're from a city that's kind of not as forward, progressive and things like that. Oh, no, I'm not going to do that. The next few shows on our tour. The red states. The red states. Oh, no, I think Atlanta's with some of that shit.

Oh, Atlanta's definitely with someone that shit. Yeah. But when their wives aren't around. It was. Wait, I do want to mention the Rosie's final act. Oh, she came back to the state. Oh, you better believe.

She was the bad bunny. It was odd. Did you guys do the on core? No, no, no, no. I was, I was yelling for kitty cat for the rest of the night. By the way, she never came back out. She never. I was telling you, I was so mad.

I was so mad. I was so mad kitty cat. I was like, there's more milks to go through. Mall almost overeated a gallon of milk. Yeah. I almost. Where's the closest deli? Yeah, I was like, wait a minute.

Kitty cat can't be done for the night. That was only skin milk. We have to go through a califa oat. We have to go through the almond milk. Califa, oh. Yeah, like we have to go through all the milks. What are we doing here? So, Iz has his own milk.

No. Well, that's a, he did an entrepreneurial, man. He did do an Oreo commercial. That's an entrepreneur. That's a forward ticket, man. That's how you become a billionaire. It's not the music. It's a product.

Because you know, Wiz was somewhere high. There you go. And he was eating cookies. He was like, you know what? I need my own milk. I need my own milk. Yo, Wiz. After mixing up his protein shaking.

Yeah. And his tidy whiteies at the kickboxing. No, we got to salute. We don't salute whiz enough in the culture. We don't salute whiz enough. But it was definitely a great experience. I wish I would have would have been there just to experience it with us. And then the most amazing performer of the night, by far, was our accountant, Loyon.

Wait, wait, wait, before, the last, Rosie's last act. Oh, yeah, Rosie's last act. Real quick. Oh, with the paint. Okay. She sits on another, ultimately the show ends up her getting back to shoving shit in her ass. and she sits on what looks like a bowling pin that's blue. But you think the bowling pin's blue,

but it's in fact clear. Like it looks like a cara. It's just blue paint in it. And there's paint. So the carafe slips out of the ass. And then all of a sudden, when that happens, all the blue is gone.

You're like, where'd the blue go? Yeah. She stands fully on stage right and just bends over and just projectile, shit squirts, blue across all the way left stage. And then like kind of turns into the crowd. There's like a sprinkler. You ever, just sprinkles up more than a long?

No fucking way. It was like that type of thing. Have you ever left a concert and just saw all the trash and shit everywhere like, damn, I feel for the person that's to clean about it. Yeah. We never talk about the janitor at the box. Well, no, that's water-based paint. That comes right up.

It was also in someone's ass. Well, hopefully Rosie took an enema and flushed her ass and, you know, whatever. I feel like that's day-to-the-pro-producing. Yeah. She definitely preps for that. What's crazy about this entire thing of what I'm hearing is I've talked about on this podcast and podcasting period for years that I've never seen Mall be impressed or amazed by anything in his life.

We've experienced some moments. We've seen some shit together where I was beside myself like, this is incredible. I look over him all. No reaction. It's completely fine. And so in our lovely accountant, Loyon, we look at him. He's sweating profusely. he's dancing he's he wasn't just checking the receipt no throwing ass he's getting low to the floor

I'm looking at Julian like no no no you don't you see you don't understand no very low he goes he's got he's got Meg needs no that's all we have to check the books it's no way our accountant should have knees like that it's no way he should have knees like that I'm looking at Julian like I fend we got to get out of here um he's just you know having a ball we're like all right cool at the end of the night he was talking to some girls she just left We're looking at Loyal like, what happened? You would dance with her all night. Curling her.

He's looking at us like, I don't know. Is that a London dance that I don't know about? The curl? What's when you pick up your bride on your honeymoon and walk her across the threshold of the hotel room where y'all go and have amazing. I do that to strangers. Yeah.

Like, well, apparently Loyal does too. He just was picking up like that. Yeah. I was like, all right, cool, whatever. And then at the end of the night, I was still mad because Kitty Cat never came out for an encore. She didn't do a, she didn't have like a meat. repackage? I don't know. I wish I

I wish I did. I would have been backstage but the experience. She has an IG? Like should we follow? I have no idea. Should we have our live show? Oh, she's more than welcome. Oh, she's, listen, I will buy every milk in the fucking city. But look what we have to compete with in London. I will buy every carton of milk

in London if kitty cat comes out. And you have to fuck a merry couple on stage. Sure. Tomorrow. Like, there's, we have to compete. Yeah, yeah. We got to keep it up. We got to keep up what's going on with the box. But overall, great experience. And fucking a married couple. It was a great experience. If you're ever in London and you can get the opportunity to go to the box, I would say go.

If you're open to that type of just experience of just wild, you know, no sex shame, kink shame type of thing. That's right. The music was great. The waitresses were great. The people that were good looking people. Good looking people. Good looking crowd. It was a fun night.

It was definitely a fun night. Great experience. I don't regret it. I'm glad I got to finally. experience the box because I heard so much about it. We have the box in New York, but this one is completely different. This is a completely different experience. I mean, there's a lot of careers that I wonder like how people got into them, you know, outside of like just not construction, maybe like terrorism. I wonder like, what guy did you meet that brought you to the Alcatapath?

I think the same thing with this burles. Like, who did you meet and we're like, I think my asshole could handle that? I think it's just people that just are into that type of thing anyway and they are into performing those type of acts in some capacity or some stage somewhere. And the box is probably like, okay, this is where we ultimately want to end up because this is the spot. This is one of the hottest clubs in London. Everybody knows about it. But it was a dope experience. Dope experience.

I definitely want to go back just so you guys can experience it. Like, I definitely want you guys to experience it. Tonight, baby. Yeah. Can you talk about our side of the night? Yeah. So that was me and Julian's night. What did you guys do?

I got home at 5 a.m. by the way. Oh, no. What time did the show in? Four. The club closed at four. We left out of the around.

What did you do for that hour? Around 3.30. Yeah. And we took an Uber back to the hotel. Gosh. All right. But, um, of course.

Yeah. No, of course. Yeah. Absolutely. But no, lawyer. We left. He left. He's still at the box to this day.

He might be. He might be in a box. He's locked up. Yeah. I don't know. We left. I was like, yo, Julian,

we getting the fuck out of his time to go. Great night, though. Great spot. We had sex workers involved in our evening. Yes. Did you? Well, one.

By accident. Okay. So it's funny how sex workers always end up around you by accident. Okay. It's the first profession ever. Yeah. The first. It is.

Is it not? Yeah. The first career. Yeah. There was nothing else to sell. Yeah. Trade. Adam actually gave Eve and Apple his payment for the bill.

And they were related. Never forget it. Anyways. So my cousin who I have not seen since 1997. That's a horrible way to start there. It's a really bad thing. My cousin's not a sex worker, by the way. Oh, I was about to say,

this is the pod. I've been waiting on. I met my cousin that I haven't seen since 1999. She's selling pussy in London now. Matter of fact, I was in the market to buy and I said, aren't we related? Running it to your cousin.

That's the same thing Adam said to Eve. Yeah, running to your cousin by accident that sells pussy and you was about to buy it is fucking wild. That's a Netflix series. It's grossy. That is a Netflix series. It's a Netflix series.

So my cousin who I've not seen since 1997. She grew up in Dublin. but now lives in London. Okay. Was like, hey, let's grab a drink after we had all left, you know, demands them so-oh house. What's it called? Shortage house.

Shortage house. All right. So I was like, oh, Edna and Benner, you know, they can come with, meet the family. So I run up to my hotel room because, like, everything was closing. We're trying to find a spot. So I dropped some shit off. And Edna and Benner waited in the lobby while I was upstairs to then wait for the Uber to go to the bar.

I would let Ed and take it from here because I was not there. Okay, so he went upstairs. I went to go take a seat waiting for... To get that shoe. Yeah, to get that chew. I was looking, I was just chilling around on the couch and everything. Benner appears out of nowhere. And this lady shows up and I see Benner and Benner just points in her.

He's like, I think that's her. Asian woman, right? He thought that was Rory's cousin. My Irish cousin from Dublin is Asian. Yes, that's the only reason why I mentioned she's Asian. Because I was just like, Rory has an Asian Irish cousin? Yeah, Asian Irish.

Interesting. Yeah, yeah. A hundred percent Irish. Interesting. Yeah. Why not, right? Yeah. Maybe she was adopted.

I don't know. Yeah. So I go, oh, gotcha. Go up to Benner. The Irish are not like millionaires in the States. They just don't adopt Asians. No red hair. I go up to Benner and her.

And Benner's like, hi. Says hi to her. And she's like, oh, you, like no four, no actual sentence. I want to hear the accent, go ahead. No, no, there was not, no. You were about to do an accent? No, she just, oh, you, uh. And he's like, oh, you're Rory's cousin.

She's like, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Right? She said, yeah. She said, yeah. Okay. We were like, oh, okay, go. I was like, I put my hand out and everything. I'm like, hi, I'm at it.

She's like, oh, hi, okay. And then she goes, you two? I was like, I'm sorry? You two? Three-fifty. I was like, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, this is in the lobby of our hotel. Our hotel room.

Wait, what? Yes. Okay. Yeah. And then better looks at me just gives me like, no, never mind. Never mind. He's like, no, no, no. And it started feeling.

Like, I was like, how much like, I hope Rory won't mind. I was running my pockets. But on the company card. That's a deal. Yeah. Two, three, 50? What? I don't know what I'm more offended at that, or confused about.

That Edden and better would think my cousin is an Asian, woman from Ireland or that she was a prostitute or that they was with it. They was going to go through with it. I can't figure out which one bothers me more. Yo, don't.

Or that the two of them were going to be together. Like, oh, she was she gave us a bundle. It was a bundle deal. I was like, what do you mean both of us? Oh, no. And then 50 for two, not each? Total. 3.50?

total or? Total. That is. pounds, though. bundle package if I've ever seen. That's heavy. That's less. Did that come with a hoodie? No, that's insane.

Was she attractive, though? No. Oh, I was going to. I'm sure she's working on that. I'll point her out in the lobby. I'm going to say that. That's where the 350 was like, ugh. I don't know.

Yeah, 350. I'll give me three. Like two. Yeah. What's funny is like, and I, we won't out the hotel. But you, you know, there's certain like four seasons hotels where you could tell where there's girls working and they do it subtly. Shorty was what?

In front of like where you check in. No one else there. She's just like, 350? Bro, that wasn't the only person that just kind of walked into our hotel.

We'll say that later. It wasn't even like some subtle prostituting. She was like at the front desk. Like, oh, you want to fuck? He's like, yo.

Long story, sure, she had a WhatsApp and the WhatsApp there was like pictures and stuff like that. Some dude comes up. You guys got into a WhatsApp

situation? No, like she like showed us her phone and she's like, are you, like she didn't really say a name. She was like, are you? And I'm like,

no no no no no oh okay yeah and then some guy just kind of so she was obviously there for somebody for somebody for somebody some guy snatches her up later well now i want to know what that guy said to her because when edin said are you rory's cousin she said yeah yeah yeah i don't know i guess she really i feel like some people really don't understand us sometimes yeah she knew she was there to meet somebody and that's all she and you obviously walk up to her so she's like yeah it's me like i'm ready to make this money and get out of here but well i'm glad that wasn't your cousin i blame bennar because i trust that's always blame that he might have i thought he knew And I was like, oh, is she Asian?

I didn't think that would. All right, cool, you know. So that was, I'm glad that. Sometimes stereotypes can help. Yeah, absolutely. In that case, it should have definitely read the room. But I'm glad that wasn't your cousin that was selling sex in our hotel. Yes.

So to your cousin. She actually made all the chairs we were sitting in at a cell house. That crazy? Mm-hmm. Oh, really? I had no fucking idea. Interior architecture is stuff? Yeah.

Yeah. She did all those fucking chairs. I was like, what the fuck? Come to my crib. So your grandfather built the bridges in Manhattan in New York City. And my cousin has made every chair you've sat at. And so house. Wow.

Yeah. You're making it out. Look at you making music. Yeah. The McFarrell. Yeah. They get shit done. You can sit, cross, and dance if you come fuck with this family.

Cross. You can cross. Great grandpa, Farrell will be proud. Yeah. Well, I'm glad. So you might. your cousin, she makes the chairs at the short ditch house.

Yes. And how was the conversation? Like, did I catch up on the family? Yeah. Did she have kids? We haven't really talked in a really long time, but it's funny how family shit is universal, like, no matter what. You could not speak to someone for 20 years and pick right back

up with like, you know, he's still a piece of shit, isn't it? Yeah, yeah. That's family. That's family forever. So, oh, at least you're talking to my dad. I was like, fuck. Oh, shit. We're from. We're from. this on the day before the show, so she's coming to the show? She bought tickets to the show. Oh, wow. Yeah, I was like, fuck. Why would you do that?

I respect that, though. I thought it was dope. That's kind of like when we were in Charlotte and my cousin that I didn't know was my cousin at the end. I started talking. It was like, yo, we're cousins. And I was like, oh. Yeah. Yeah. She bought, she bought all the time. I didn't know she was coming. She bought her tickets. And we didn't talk actually after. No, we didn't. You nasty. No, no, no, no, no. I didn't do anything. You're lucky. I forgot. It just hit me. God damn. God. I would have tied in this prostitution story a little bit better. When we're leaving, you know, you know, Uber's are kind of hard to get it. It was pouring rain too.

Oh, I had a little group with us. No, not only that. I knew he said, Hannah, I'll get your Uber. Who's Hannah? My cousin's cousin. Not the prostitute. Yeah. You?

Ed, it's not. She was going to take a bus back home. We can't let a woman take a bus back home. Rory's her rich cousin. If he was going to let her take a bus, so should you. No, mind you, when she said I'm taking the bus, I'm not letting you take the bus. I'll call you an Uber. Eddn just stepped in.

I'll take it. That's not what happened. You can't be doing it. He was trying to fuck my cousin. You can't do it. I'll make sure you get home. You can't do that. Roy, don't worry about it.

I got it from here. Roy was like, there better be two stops in that Uber. I was like, I'm not going with her. That's what he thought. He thought I was going to go with her. So you got in the car with her. No. You just called her an Uber.

I just called her an Uber. That's it. Okay. So now you have her address. That's a, yeah. You got to watch how he works. That's how I do. Oh, yes.

Yes. Yeah, he's like, I mean, I didn't look at it. I didn't look at it. I gave the guy four stars and that was it. She texted when she got home. I was like, did you double lock the door?

Like the top joint too? Oh my gosh. Because that nasty cameraman knows where you live in that. He's outside your window right now with the camera. With the camera. Red light in the window. Yeah. Like, what is he doing?

But no, it was cool to catch up with him. That's dope. And I'm glad Edna and Benner got to meet her as well. And Benner knows my pop, so that was also cool because she was like, oh, do you know Jake? And once Benner heard that, they had a great conversation. That's dope.

I like stories like that. So we, that was the night. That was our first night. That's the first 24 hours of London. It's a whirlwind. So we woke up today. I kind of, everybody kind of slept in, which I knew it was not having. Like, we just fucking tired jet lag and bodies on a whole different clock.

But I woke up and I decided to download the Drake album. Yeah. What a decision. Well, only because I felt like everybody was texting me about certain songs and bars and lines and things like. And I didn't know what the fuck they were talking. I said, I haven't heard a single song off the album. I'm in London. I'm just waking up.

It's fucking 1130 here, which means it's 7.30 back home, which means it's 4.30 in California. So I was just like, no, I'm just literally waking up. So I listened to the album and turned it on. Yes, her loss. Her loss. It was. Drake and 21 Savage. Let's just talk about all of the marketing and stuff leading up to the album.

Drake is his camp. I don't know who's responsible for that, but it was genius moves. I thought it was super hilarious, super funny. Super like, just like a play on like everybody wanting to sit down and talk to people and interview people and things like that. It's like, okay, I'm going to talk to y'all, but I'm not talking to y'all. It's a press run, but it's not a press run. Like I didn't leave like my studio.

I did all of this in the same fucking studio, green screened it, whatever. It was just a real, real, like, dope way to say, here's our album. We're not going to come and sit with everybody. We're not going to come and do interviews with everybody. But we're going to look like we're running around doing it. Like the deep fake tiny desk shit was genius. So that. Because when I first saw that, I was like, yo, for Drake to do Tiny Desk is super ill.

We were recording when that clip dropped. Yeah. So we didn't like fully, you know, it was kind of one of those like, oh, shit, that's cool. I was actually excited when I first saw it before I realized it was fake. I was like, yeah, man, that actually does make sense. It is time for Drake to do a tiny desk. Then I really watched the clip after we recorded and I was like, an acoustic guitar and a bass guitar, not a drumming site for the Drake and 21 Savage Tiny Desk.

Not rolling. This is fake as fuck. No, when I, when I sort of Howard Stern thing, I said, okay, this is interesting for, a number of reasons right now everything that's going on very interesting but when he answered the question well like you know just heavy top like just whatever's like the the best tops like that's what i was like this can't be real i mean no way drake said that but the o g howard stern show appropriate answer oh absolutely but that's why it made sense but i'm just like drake isn't doing that he's not he's not really going to say that and that be the like the clip that they use there's no way with such

convictions i was like yo i think it's the top is probably one and i'm just the top is probably one And that's when you told me, you was like, no, all of it is fake. I said, no, this is genius shit. So shout out to the whole team behind that for the album. I thought that was super dope. But now the music. Yeah. It's out.

Well, we jumped in. We did a fake interview and convinced quite a few people that that was actually happening. Did we? Yeah, it worked. Oh, you didn't know. Peepage did a Photoshop. I was at the bar on my couch. And we decided when we were at the bar together to just rolling it with it.

So we had Pete. Oh, yeah, I did see that. But even we tweeted out like, oh, I hope Drake and 21 want to fake do our podcast. And then it was mad people. You fucking clout chasers. I'm like, no, I want them to fake do our podcast. Yeah. So then like, like, not really do it.

We put out the fake image and people were like, of course, Rory's not sitting next to Drake, LMAO. Elm AO. Even like when we're, it's known that it's a fake, like we made it. And by the way, we posted it. Pete, who does incredible Photoshop wasn't his best work. It looked fake as fuck. That's what I thought.

But that's why I was dope though. It didn't even look real. That's why when I saw the picture, I laughed at it because I was like, I'm glad it doesn't look too real. Oh, no, I'm glad Peach purposely didn't make it look very real because it was like, all right, this is. I thought you meant like we did a fake interview. Like, that would be.

The picture, yeah, but I thought I was about say, wait, I didn't see this video. Why is it out and I didn't see it? Did he sub? That's what I was listening for. Everyone else was looking for like the messy, like, what he said about Meg and Kanye. I was like, oh, which one of these songs is about one of my bitches?

No, no, that's crazy when you sit at and listen to a rap, But like, I want to hear if he's talking about any of my hoes. Like, you know that's what rappers think, though. Other rappers, for sure. I mean, he even said it on the album. He said rappers asked me if did Drake fuck? Of course he did. No, I'm not going to lie.

He had one ball in there. I was in the bathroom. I was brushing my teeth. And he said, what he said? He said, like a cup holder dime stick to me. Some said, like a cup holder of domes always stick to me. It's a pretty good line. I was like, ooh.

Yeah. That's a clever, clever bar, bro. Yeah, I like that. That's very clever. That's like, ah, he's on another, like, he's thinking differently. Like, because we, you get that as soon as you hear it and no rapper has ever said that. You're going to get killed for loving that bar, but I also love that bar. I'm just telling you, the rap nerds are going to be like, I don't care who.

That bar is so witty. If Big L said that, it'd be the greatest hip-hop bar at all time. It's just clever. Something's so simple. That's what I'm saying. It's so simple. Yeah. But nobody has ever said it.

And you know every car drink has been. in the last 10 years does not have sticky cup holders. So the fact that he could tap in those accurate days. That's why I'm like, way back in the day. It's like when Jay still talks about Coke. Yeah. It's like it's muscle memory. Yeah.

It's muscle. And then who has it, who doesn't know a sticky cup holder? No matter how clean your car is, it's like, yo, why is this? Why is it always sticky? My mom's in fact has two sticky cup holders. Even that little area with the dash thing that you put stuff is is sticky. Yeah, no, that was a real. I went some premier car washes.

Cannot get the stick. Can't get it. That's why that line was so... Exactly. I only drink water. That's why that bar was so like... I said, okay. I said, that's a slick.

That's a clever ball. I like that bar. But the music sounds good. I only listened to the one through the album one time. Yeah, for those listening, this shit literally just came out like. Yeah, we're recording this on Friday. This is coming out Tuesday. We recorded this on Friday in London.

So that was the album. The music sounds good. The hooks sound good. I only listened to it once, so I'm not trying to go too deep into it. I see the bars that people are. talking about online with the whole, uh, uh, she's lying about getting shot, but she's still a style, you know. That was the, the number one thing I saw. I saw that bar. I heard, I've seen people talking about that bar and I was like, okay, um, we talked about it amongst ourselves. And I was

like, I think he's teetering the line. It could be lying about shots, lying about get her ass done. No, I understand the bar, but let's come on. Drake is one of the more calculated people we've ever seen. Right. He chooses his words very careful. carefully. Right. Yes. And he also... He knows what he's saying, even with the entendre, I know chicks lie about getting ass shots. We're like, yeah, we could tell that. But we know you saying that is going to appear logically that you are saying that Meg is lying about being shot. The only reason... Like, let's call a spade of spade. Yeah, but Drake can play all he wants, but he knows what that was going to do. And I, and that's what I'm saying. I, I'm always with calling a spade to

But the only thing is I've never seen or that I can remember, I've never seen Drake take a definitive side on anything that was such big news in our culture. True. So that's why I have to say he's teetering the line. He's playing on words. He obviously sees what people are saying publicly about the trial or the situation that's coming up. He sees all of that.

He reads all of that. So that's what I'm saying. I think he's teetering. He's playing with that line and that the emotions that are out there about that issue lying or whatever, whatever. I've never seen Drake take a definitive like shot and stance like that, especially towards another artist or woman.

But you do know what that puts out to her story. Oh, absolutely. As far as perception goes. Absolutely. And this is in no way I'm saying what my opinion on, I was not fucking there. I do not know. I don't know if that means I don't believe women. I just wasn't fucking there. I don't know. Let's see what happens in the trial

whenever one tells her story. That's where I'm at with the shit. Drake brand is probably what, the most important brand and hip-hop? One of? Absolutely. One of the most protected. Pretty squeaky clean if we get down to it at the end of the day for the type of artist that he is. Right. Which is why I don't think he would.

To say that, that is now saying by perception, Meg is line. Why would an artist compromise his whole brand to say a woman that was shot is lying. So you could see to the line, but Drake knows what he was saying in that regard and what that looks like in Meg's story. And her defense. No, no, no artist of Drake's stature, rapper or not, would risk their brand to take any type of, it's not even saying that he's kind of insinuating.

He said it. He said it. He fucking said it. He took a definitive stance. Yeah. So is this the first one? He said there's another line too that I wanted to read. where he said it's on the same song he said shorty say she graduated she ain't learn enough play

your album track one k i heard enough so those people are saying that's in reference to her going back finishing her degree at tsu and then you know obviously continue with her career and he's like yeah i'm good on your music what what is the meg is there a meg drake thing we don't know about on the scene how close is drake with tory uh there was a picture of him recently with i mean they're cool how close is any artist really i don't know how i'm thinking It seems close enough or at least he knows enough about the situation to choose a side. All right. No.

See, I'm not going. But no, that's what I'm saying. Drake wouldn't do that. What does he know? Did Drake? He's not going to take. If I'm Drake and Tori just tells me a story behind the scenes. Yeah.

Like, he's not doing that. He's like, yo, I didn't shoot her. He's not doing that. He's not doing that. No, I'm not saying. No. He's not doing.

He's not done. To make a stance on that, which is also even weirder to me because Drake wasn't there. Right. Well, no. So what is known? It's some people that are They're upset about the bar They're looking at it like, damn, that was whack

You know, that was corny Like you shouldn't have did that You shouldn't have said that Or whatever And I mean, you know, listen If one thing we know we know now You can say things And nothing is out of bounds

I keep telling y'all We're living in a simulation Whatever we thought was like Out of bounds Which is absolutely not happen Because everything is Out of bounds but not You can't say anything

But literally everything's being said Every day it's a new out of bounds You can't say shit But everything's being said Exactly. So, you know, I guess this is what he wanted. He want people to sit and talk about it. Is he taking the side?

Is he taking the stance and who he believes in this whole situation? You know, like I said, people are saying, oh, he's alluding to Chick's line about getting their ass shots. But you still are standing like you still thick. Yeah. Listen, man, chop it up. That bar was corny. Huh? Do y'all think that bar was corny?

I didn't like it. Timing-wise. Yeah. I didn't like. I thought it was bad time. I thought it was a bad taste. A rapper bar. Rap genius way if you want to put it down.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, okay. And not that I don't like it because I believe Meg, I don't want to put that out there. I'm just saying I don't like it because this is something that's still going on. This is a trial is coming up. So it's like, that's why I don't believe. We've never seen Drake just put a draw line of sense.

Like, I'm here with this. You know what I mean? It's always like he just doesn't address it. He's like, whatever. Like it's not. that. Him saying that is going to have a lot more people jumping on that. Absolutely. And that's why people, and that's why, and that's why people what don't like the bar.

With a brand like that would risk it over something that he wasn't 100% positive about. That's what it looks like. Yeah. And I'm saying you do believe Meg because I want to make sure it sounded like you were saying you want to say you don't believe Meg. No, no, no. I'm saying, I'm very much. I just don't want you to say something you wasn't saying. I'm not saying I don't believe Meg. I'm just saying like people know from the, from the time it happened, it was the craziest shit we've ever heard. A male artist that was huge, had everything going for him at the moment.

Fucking insane. Shot, allegedly shot a female artist. We've never, and then we've never seen a woman lie about being shot before. I don't, I'm talking about in life. Not just celebrity artists. In life, I have never seen a woman lie about being shot. Very interesting lie. This is what I'm saying.

So it's like the whole situation is just, odd. It's unfortunate. It's, it's like just something we've never seen. So, well, allegedly who shot her rather? Because I believe, or allegedly shot. Yes. I don't. I think that's a fact. Who shot her. Right. So the bar didn't like it. I was like, ah, because we know what it can do. It's bad timing. It pushes perception. It does all of these things. And that's why a lot of people also don't like it. A lot of women don't like it. They felt like it was distasteful of Drake to put out there. But whatever, that's what that's what music is supposed to do. We debate it. We chop it up. We take from it. What we take from it. We like what we don't like. We dislike this.

We like that. That's what this is all about. Just as a consumer and I don't want to harp too much on the Meg shit, but we've had conversations off Mike where you've made amazing. Like, Meg would never lie about that. Yeah. Like her career, why would she ever lie about that? I was very vocal behind the scenes about that. Like that, it will be and it is absolute career suicide if she is in fact lying about that. It's career suicide. There's no other way about it. It is career. She's committing career suicide if she is lying about this. Like, let's take the feelings out of it. Yeah, yeah. There's no feelings. And I'm just being, you know, it's unfortunate what happened all the way around. But if she's

lying, it's career suicide. Every time you said that, it's put it in perspective of me. I'm like, yeah, like, dog, if Meg lied about that, it would be insane. Yeah, it's career suicide. We've never seen nothing. But now I'm just as confused because I think Drake's brand would never even allude to taking, allude to taking a side. Even though I think he's going to say let's just say even elude or like make a little comment. Yeah, I agree. Without knowing 100% that she was lying.

I agree. That's where I'm, I have no idea what's going on. Yeah. Nor isn't really my fucking business. Well, the trial is coming up. So, you know, no matter who drops a line and who makes a slick witty bar, the trial is coming. It will be sorted out. So another, I feel like we're dissecting this album and it just came out.

We're not. We're just talking about the gossipy bars. It just came out. I can't wait to really talk about this album once. Yeah. We both have one to one listen off the shit. Yeah. Because from what I did here, it's a lot of shit in there, a lot of music, a lot of interesting samples.

I liked it all first, listen. Yeah, I did too. It sounded good. I'm talking about just the music. The music sounded good. The samples that were there, obviously some slick witty lines and things like that. Another line that people seem to be dissecting is the Shereena Williams, the shot. quote unquote shot at Serena Williams's husband I guess.

No, he said no disrespect before it. That means it's not a shot. You know, we got to put the no disrespect in front of it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So, Julian, what was the line? It was no disrespect, Serena, but your husband is a groupie. That's exactly what he said? No, that's not what he said.

I swear to God. No disrespect, Serena, but your husband's a groupie? Yes. Am I wrong, Julian? Yo, what is wrong with Drake? When I heard that shit in my hotel, I was like, where I'm at, right? I was like, all right, man.

Drake, Drake, Drake, what's up, fan? What, what you doing, dog? Like, you can't, you can't call Serena Williams' husband a group. And then, okay. I said the same. No, no, no, no. Same with the next shit. Is he calling, is he calling him a groupie for?

No, here's the line. Serena or a groupie for him? He said, sidebar, Serena, your husband is a groupie. He claimed we don't got no problem, but no boo. Is it like you coming for sushi? Look at the double ontical with no boo. Sorry. Like, no.

So he's alluding the fact that he took Serena to nobo. Nobu one night and That's sushi. Fans went crazy over the bar. He didn't say no one. Well, they had great yellow tail. Yellowtail sushi there, so. I mean, you know.

The jalapeno yellow tell is to die for. And you think maybe it was a callback to what it's time to be alive when Future said, Nobu, nobu, nobu, nobu, nobu, nobu, there that he said. And you love that future bar. That's one of your favorite future bars.

The Nobu, Nobu, Noon. Like on that album, that's like your favorite bar. But no, Drake got a bar on this album that passes that bar he was like me and you are eight words fuck you fuck you fuck you fuck you fuck you fuck you fuck you I was like yo dog this nigga is really crazy man I mean listen as Wayne who I consider one of the ghosts

I think he changed everything when he said I could just get paid by the letter and then just did the alphabet 8pc this is of course alluding to the date that he took her on in 2015 oh my gosh when they had the sushi date so they had a sushi who knows who remembers these things

TMZ has the evidence. Oh, my God. How did Drake remember that? I'm not so... It's TMZ's job, knowing shit, but how would Drake... If you had a one-off date with Serena Williams? You're not going to forget that. The fuck?

Also, it's Drake. That's fair. How calculated Drake did it? Oh, for sure, but... I'm saying to put that into a bar directed at her husband, I guess is really where I'm... So, Serena's husband, I guess, responded to the bar, well, seemingly responded to the bar with a tweet. He says, the reason I stay winning is because I'm relentless about...

being the absolute best at whatever I do, including being the best groupie for my wife and daughter. It's a picture of him with their daughter in the stands, looking at Serena on the court playing. That's a horrible thing. Is Drake next to him in the photo? No. Oh, man.

He needed to give shots back. I mean, he kept it. I am not. He did what a husband would do. He's not a rapper. He's supposed to picture of the baby and their, his loving wife. That's arguably the greatest athlete ever at work.

Sure. Well, I think if you're the greatest, athlete of all time and you're the husband of that woman. I'm just going to be quiet. It's hard not to. I'm not replying to that. It's hard not to be. And again, maybe Drake is saying that her husband is a groupie for him.

I thought he was saying that he's a Drake group. Because calling, Colin, first of all, calling a girl, a lady's husband, a groupie for her is the funniest shit the world. Like, tell us somebody like, yo, you married, yo, you're a groupie because I marry Serena. She loves me. I love her. We're married.

We're a kid together. It was like when, it's like when you were, when you were young and anytime you showed affection to your girl in front of your boys, but, oh, you mad gay. Yeah. I was, when you were the girl. It's like, no, I like, like, my girl. That was what I'm saying. Like, so now if one of y'all get married, y'all, y'all, you're mad if I call y'all

a groupie, like, you got married, yo, you're a groupie, yo. That's cool. What? Put a ring on it? You put a ring on. You put a ring. No, you're a groupie. Imagine going to the reception, like, yo, I got to get away from these groupies.

Yeah, it's, you got to get away from these groupies. Yo, this nigga, he got his suit on it's, yo. And he got his groupie homies with him. They all wearing suits. They matched some ho shit. All y'all matched. Yo, he wrote, he wrote a bow. Yo, dope.

You told her how much you, yo, you're a groupie. You're a fan. What? I don't know, man. That's the few part. It's crazy. I don't, I don't know. I mean, I do, and I do find it funny.

I guess when you're that rich, that's like you insult people now. You're a groupie for your wife. I just think it's also funny. And I know what then Shrek and I have beef. I like him. He's cool. When you invented being a groupie for groupies, you can't call nobody a groupie. When you invented being a groupie for groupies, so you're saying Drake is a groupie for groupies?

He invented shouting out the groupies on by name on songs. Oh, okay. I see what you're saying. He invented talking about the groupies. By name, making the groupies who they are. He made it a thing to do in the rap shit. The groupies were anonymous. It was the groupies. besides Superhead, it was nobody.

Well, I'm about to say before Drake. It was a bunch of nameless boxes. Yeah, but before Drake, rappers, we know their government, Social Security number, everything. So you cannot call nobody a groupie. I'm not saying Drake actually was a groupie for the groupies. He made it.

But he invented that part of rap where you was named dropping groupies. I'm not going to say he invented it because. Well, Wayne did at some point. Wayne did a few. Yeah. I think Wayne did it like once and Drake was like, oh, I'm going to make this my style.

I think, no, I think with Drake made popular was in naming the song titles after the groupies. Well, I don't think, no, come on. He met Brea at, at a Macy's. I don't think, but I'm just, I don't think Brea was a groupie. No, I'm not, I'm not saying he, I'm just saying there's other. We're going to have to apologize to Brea, the same way. I have to do with Laura.

I love Brea. That's my people's. No, I'm just saying, like, I love him saying he made, I think he made that a thing, though. I'm not talking about the interludes. Okay. To me, that's like, that was his exes. Like, it was just girls. Yeah.

Well, clearly he doesn't. But, come on, we know in those first two albums, he was shouting out. No, he definitely, he definitely was shouting out the girls. Courtney from Hooters on Petrie. I see, I think she was a respectable woman that was maybe his girlfriend. I'm not saying that part. We know the names, man. It's the one that he needed.

She was the piece to complete him. He said someone called China, tell her I'm on fire tonight. Yeah. Oh, my liar, yeah. Yeah. I'm on fire tonight. I'm on fire. tonight. Yeah, that means come get this money because I feel like throwing about 100,000

ahead of here tonight. Well, that's actually an entrepreneur. That's not a groupie. She was getting paid. She was just, he was on five. So that's a, you think steak's getting paid from Drake right now. That's another bar that I guess people were in arms and talking about whatever. And then there was a another bar that I guess people caught or y'all put me on to that I didn't catch at the moment. The bar in regards to the whole Shelley. F-K-A-Drom Or DROM, F-K-A-Shele. I homie, drum,

Shelley. That's family. Alluding to the whole Chacha bar, Ch-C-C-C-C-Slide record that, you know, Hotline Bling was intended to be the Ch-C-C-C-C-Lide remix. Am I correct in the sense? Yes.

I have the lyric. Okay. He said, tried to bring the drama to me. He ain't know how we cha-cha-slide. So here's the, thing. When I heard that bar, I did not, I just thought it was wordplay. I didn't take it as a shot at drama at all. I just thought that was like a cool bar. Then I saw that that Shelly had gotten on on Twitter and, you know, said his piece. I've been there before when I've been upset and

just did some shit. I think, and I will tell him this as a friend, I think he overreacted until he started explaining the situation. I've had a lot of really, really, private, intimate talks with Shelley about certain industry stuff stuff pertaining to Drake Hotline Bling that entire era. He's always held that story down. I had no idea there was actually some type of altercation at all. And he told me some shit that I'll take to the grave about a lot of stuff. He really held that story down.

So when I heard that, I didn't think anything of it. I was just like, oh, that's just the bar. Right. Now that that's there, I can see to some degree how Shelley be like, all right, bro. There was an actual altercation. Right. So maybe I would feel away. When I first heard it, even though in information I know more about that situation than he's ever put out, I was just like, oh, it's just a funny boy. What do you do in that situation? Do you just let that shit go? Because no one knows that story,

but the two of y'all? I don't think you let it go only because I feel like Drum, you know, has been holding in a lot, obviously. Yeah. In regards to the whole hotline blinking. record. Nice things about Drake. You know, off of his cha-cha slide hit record. And Hotline Bling basically is supposed to be the remix to that. Highline Bling ended up being probably Drake's biggest record to date, maybe. Second God's Planet.

It's still number one. So obviously, you know, as we know creatives, that type of those things happen. And it causes a little energy shift between artists. Like, that was fucked up. That was shady. But okay. And then everything else that you're saying happened. around that I had no idea about I didn't know nothing about it sent down um and we sat down and

we talked with drama we talked with um a few things about his his next project and just catching up with him and um him getting into the cannabis game and um and he we had some discussion around that whole situation because i literally yeah was on the outside of that I didn't know anything about that situation um and then so drake drops the bar and then drum goes on uh excuse me Shelly goes on social media and response to the bar. I guess because he was holding in so much for so long about it. That's what I'm saying. I probably just pushed him to the like, yo, you know what?

I'm probably still in that situation now. Maybe that's why I watch that maybe why I watched that clip of drama going off. Like, I know that feeling. Yeah. Like you've been dead quiet about a lot of, bro. Even when you've been talking, you've held. Bro. Shit down.

Like you would not believe to this day off people that. don't even fuck with you, you don't fuck. Bro, listen. I saw myself in that like, yo, yo, come on, man. I've been, I've been chilling. Listen, man, I know how that feeling is. I've been a victim of responding. Well, not a victim.

I've been, you know, on the side of responding. I've been on the side of not responding, shutting up and just letting things, you know, just be with it. Halfway responding. When you really want to go there. And on the side of, I could really go to a whole different level. And, you know, it's just like, ultimately, for what?

Oh, for sure. You know what I mean? It's so it's like, it's, so you just take things, you learn from them. Yeah, it's a fucked up situation. Yeah, it's whack that it happened and things like that. But, you know, however you decide to deal with it, you got to stand on it and you got to just, you know, you got to just be a man with it. So he responded, however he responded, I didn't see the Twitter clip. I heard that he's going on TMZ live.

I guess to address things. He was suggesting that he had went and approached Drake about the hotline bling cha-ch-chat slide situation and that Drake's security guards had stepped in and that it wasn't, Drake didn't do anything. And that's why drama was so upset. Like, you can't say that bar. You didn't do anything. Your security came in and did that shit. And he also said, if you want to fight one-on-one, we could do that type of energy.

which of course we know won't happen but I'm curious because we sat down with them a few weeks ago and discussed not that situation but the hotline bling situation and he had nothing but great things to say about Drake so I am curious now that we're going to put that interview which was already planned it's weird how that worked out like I want to talk to Shelley and figure this out

and kind of have him help transition this interview that we're attaching to the end of this episode because it's a drastically different energy than it was. It was a different energy. It was super respectful towards Drake because I, and I think that's kind of his point in that Twitter video. Like, I've been nothing but kind to you.

Like, I really have been quiet about the whole situation. I could have been that dude that just ran around, talk about how y'all stole my shit and made it the hot. But that's a fucked up position of being because, you know, when you do that. Exactly. You can look nuts. The biggest artist, one of the biggest artists in the world and, you know, you're Shelly Drum, who's had big records, had success.

obviously not to the level of a Drake, but you've you've carved their way for yourself and your name and you had a huge record in Chau-Shall-Slide and then in comes Hotline bling in that same vein. So I do understand Shelley, his feelings around that, but we did sit and talk with him. And his energy wasn't combative. It wasn't negative. It was just like it was more like it's whack that that happened. You know what I mean? It was kind.

And I hope whoever who chops this and thinks it's a drum response. it's not a response. I almost want to put a date on our footage. Actually, let's do that. We can't. Yeah, let's put a date on it. Because I don't want that to be his official reply. He was about two weeks ago.

So yeah, because I know, regardless, you know, obviously that picked up a lot of traffic when drama had said that and he's doing the TMZ shit. I don't want people to think for his sake because that's family that this is his reply to that entire thing. It's not a reply. It's what was happening before. It's kind of why he replied the way. he did today is because he's been so respectful and quiet about the shit. Yeah. So Chachaw versus Hotline Bling.

It's a beef we didn't know what's happening. I mean, behind the scenes, you kind of was like, oh, no, behind the scenes. You kind of was like, oh, behind the scene. I think I know that song. Yeah, absolutely. I'm just making jokes. But yeah. But yeah, Shelley had some, you know, he didn't have no negative things to say about

Drake. It was just a quick part of the interview. Like, more so like he wanted, you know, just like, yo, you don't feel like I at least, you at least owe me just a conversation. Like, you know, that type of energy. Like, we at least got to just have a conversation about it. Like, so, yeah, so we talked at Drum, aka FCA, Shelley. And weird timing that this was coming, that interview was coming with what the fuck just happened.

Yeah. That ended up odd. But it is what it is. All right. So you want to, you want to get into that? Yes. What's going on, family? What up?

How you feeling? Oh, I know how you feeling. It's all over your feet. You ain't got to tell me how you feeling. I know how you feel it. Are we going to get a house? all this episode? So, Drom, he, first of all, am I calling you Drom or Shelly?

You calling me Drum? You call him? Like, but I answered it or whatever, you know what I'm saying? No, but I, what you want me to call you? Oh, yeah. What's it going to say on the album tomorrow? It's going to say Drum. All right, so Drum.

So, Drum came in here with all this shit, bags and bags and bags to some good smoke, lobster butter and, and, uh, candy paint. There's lobster. Yeah, this is, it's, it's a, that's a, that's an outside of it. I'm not from Joe Biden's America. So I got me a cone because, you know, we was talking. I don't do the blunts. I'm a paper guy.

So I got a cone. This is some candy paint. So I'm going to hit this candy paint because, you know, we like, everybody got pretty weed and it smell good and gas. But what does smoke like? What is smoke like? So you came here with the candy paint. I said this was probably the best looking one, you guys. So I'm going to smoke some of this candy paint.

And we're going to have a great conversation. As a vegan, can you smoke the lobster bisque, we've? Lobster, lobster butter. Hey, look, look, we're going back cross that shit. Lopster Bisk. Hey, you coined it. Listen. Rory coined it.

Yeah, I can't. Because it's not, it's just the name. It's not really any animal. No, there's no lobster in the actual. But butter too, as you can't do that. There's no actual butter in the weed. It's just, it's probably the smell a little bit. Remind you're a little lobster butter.

So I'm going to smoke this candy, uh, candy paint and we're going to have a great fucking conversation. What's, what's the weed business like? I'm asking. Business is booming? I just, you get out of jail for free now, according to Biden five minutes ago. Let's fucking go. I do think it's amazing but kind of fucked up.

All right. So all people that have federal charges for weed right now officially get out. But the weed business is already being taken over by people that were not federally incriminated by it. So you locked everybody up, took their business, made it legal, and then was like, hey, you're out, but we took your business. Yeah, well, that's how it goes. Whenever the government figures out how to put their tax on it and how to make their money off of it, it's legal. Now we could free everyone

that was a genius. Yeah. Alcohol was once illegal. You know, but once they found out how to tax that and make their money, they were able to legalize it. So, I mean,

it's long overdue. So, so, you know, I guess salute to President Biden for now, officially pardoning all federal marijuana. Hey, yo, it's fucking up,

yo. I mean, luckily you weren't federally prosecuted prior to. So you should be good. But what made you want to get into weed business? Outside of liking wheat. I mean, I feel like ever since the first day I smoked weed when I was 16,

right there on Chesapeake Ave, it was like a match. It was one of the matches. You knew you wasn't turning back? I was never turning back. You remember the first time you smoked weed? The first time I smoked weed, I was definitely in high school,

and we snuck in the staircase and smoked some bunk. There was some bullshit bunk that we just thought was the greatest at the time. But I didn't really, really start smoking until I was like well into my 20s. Like I didn't really like a lot of people like, really? I'm like, yeah, I didn't really start smoking until I was almost like 30. I was 11 the first time I smoked weed. That was just because I hung out with older kids. I didn't inhale, but I was just, peer pressure is not a real thing, but it is a real thing.

No one said, yo, smoke this, but it was in the air. Yeah. Like when it was passed, I had to like, yeah. No one was like, yo, smoke this unless you're not cool. Like, that never happened. But if you wanted to be in that circle, it was being passed around. I didn't inhale at all. I think the first time I got high was probably 14.

But 11 was the first time that I tried it. And through high school, I smoked and then college they tested us with track. So I stopped. And then I just kind of on and off with that. But in high school, I was getting high all the fucking time. I was a dare kid up until I smoked. Oh, you was a dare kid? Yeah, like, for real.

All the kids in high school that had to do the dare program. and were doing community service because they got caught with weed. Yeah. It was all high. I'm talking about 10 years old. They had the whole fifth grade go to the Hampton Coliseum.

They had the Dare John and they was doing like kids bop branditions of like DMX and shit. I'm like, yeah. Ain't another but a G thing? But that shit was rocking. You know what I mean?

The energy. Yeah. I feel like you got a real constant. No, we have to find the kids' bob version of those. Yeah, for real. Did you ever have to, well, you two old.

The Dare program was more our era. I feel like. You guys were the reason the DARE program existed. Y'all had Smokey the Bear. Yeah, he wasn't for forest fires? Hold on, hold on. Listen, man. Not Scruff, McGruff, Chicago, Illinois, 606-5-2.

Yeah. Because these things are y'all trying to make me sound old as fuck right now. Like, nah, no, that's fuck. You were smoky to bed. Bro, I'm 34 just to shut the record straight. You know what I don't feel like we're that far. I'm 41. Damn.

I know. Man, black don't crack. He says grace again. Nah, no, black don't crack, like, yeah what I'm saying? That's fine, bro. If you're just, I don't know if I like the damn, though. Like, the dam into the couch lean was like,

you thought I told you we should have asked him prior. You look, you look, really, really, you know what I'm saying? Like, youthful. If you would guess who's 32 and who's 41 out of the two of us, what would you guess? Yeah. Yeah, man, yeah. It's like that cuss, just like cuss.

You know what I'm saying? Like, you would never know. 41, man. Man, man, you can run a mile? You can still run a mom? I don't know how fast I can run that shit. But you can make it to the finish line. Yeah.

Oh, no. You're in the game like manning. All right. Well, drama and I was Dare program. You was crack as whack era. Hey, yo, crack is whack. You had, uh, the Reagan wife, Nancy. Yeah.

You know what I'm saying? She was all up there telling you about it. They had to skill it with the egg. This is your brain on drugs and all. And I was like, that looks like breakfast. How'd you feel like, that looks delicious. My brain could be that too? Yeah.

Like, I was like, that's breakfast, Nancy. Yeah. Did you feel like that? her advice was like really helpful to you as a youth of just say no like did you never look at it that way until she said it well yeah i never wanted to try crack um till nancy was like nah no i never wanted even if she didn't say it i was like not fucking with that but um looking back at those campaigns you know it's like you understand what they're trying to do but it's like we from the the melting into the couch dare yeah shit or like no i'm so high i'm gonna shoot myself

Oh, hard. Yeah, no, I'm straight, like, skillet on the stove with the two eggs. Like, that's my drug error. Oh, they took it higher with us. It was, I'm so high. Let me go find my dad's gun and kill myself. At the gun, closet. I've never been that high.

I never wanted to find somebody's gun and kill myself. I wanted to never, never. Nothing could hurt me. Yeah, they gave weed such a bad stigma to it. Like, they made weed marijuana seem like it was the most terrible thing to do. Now it's taxed and now it will cure cancer. And now it's medicinal purposes. And now it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's

right. Right. And things like that. Um, so, I mean, listen, man, you know. I never understood, like, when they kick Ricky Williams out the league. Like, he's not, during a, during a steroid era. Like, he's not taking steroids. Hey, yo, y'all, y'all, y'all own him the biggest bag, y'all.

Yeah, that's why, that's why, like, you know what I'm saying? Like, I even going to hold you. You know what I'm saying? Like, it's like kind of a giving goal for that full support. I remember every season growing up and shit. Like, that's, we was watching football. Yeah. That's bogus, yo.

Y'all owe him a big bag, yo. Yeah. At least y'all owe him a check for something. It's not as good as 2K. Big facts, right? Yeah. Yeah. Because Ricky Williams wasn't in that shit.

No, because everyone was doing steroids at that time. That was the whole epidemic. Ricky Williams smoked some weed in a tent. And they was like, get him the fuck out of here. But it's crazy when you go back and really think about how they really outed him for smoking marijuana. No, no, he was selected for something else. Like, you know what I'm saying?

Like very, very example set. At the time, the dreads shit hadn't even hit the NFL yet. Like he looked like an image that they didn't really want in the NFL. He might have been one of the first, I think, stars to have dreads. And I know that sounds nuts now, but at the time it was like, he has dreads. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Get him out of the league. Now that I think about it, yeah.

That's quite accurate. It was the imagery. It was everything around it, the energy to look. And then it was like the whole stigma with marijuana. And they didn't want that to become a part of the NFL brand and all of these things. And now look. Yeah, right? It's like they don't even test for it anymore.

Like, you know what I'm going to test for it. It's like, yeah, we know y'all smoke. Go ahead. But it's good to see you, man. Good to see y'all, man. I feel like we got a lot to talk about. First and foremost, I want to know what is your, what is your, life like now after all of the success as far as like your day to day what has changed that you

miss like you like damn i can't do that anymore or has everything remained the same you know it's it's kind of like a seesaw you know what i'm saying like you never really know a coin flip like stepping outside because i'm not at the point to where it's like yo i can't step outdoors or it's It's curtains. Yeah, yeah. And it's not to that point where it's like, what? Who are you? It type of shit.

Like, you know what? Like, it's very, very so much in the middle. Like, you just got to like, like, bro, I just, I just roll around, stay safe. I got to, I got to get to certain things, you know what I'm saying? Like, fully independent, you know what I'm saying? Like, you know, boss my own domain and, you know, just keep my ecosystem breathing. You know what I'm saying? Well, to Maul's point there, I guess let's start.

because you and I have had a lot of conversations in the studio about past shit that I feel should have been talked about publicly and never just because you kind of keep to yourself no one's ever been like, yo, talk about it to the public because you're not on that type of bullshit. I'm on that type of bullshit today and I want you to talk your shit. Yeah, because, Jerome, you really, you really, you really, you're really a humble, a humble, a humble guy. But you've had, you've had a lot of success. and you've done some pretty amazing things as an artist. So let's let's go, let's start at Broccoli. We're going to get to this album that's out now, coming out now. But let's start at Broccoli.

Let's start. Let's start at Broccoli. Was Broccoli an intentional, I'm looking for a hit? No. I didn't think so. That shit was supposed to be cool for SoundCloud, bro. Like, I swear to God, bro. Like, you know what I'm saying?

Like, shout out to Rick. You know what I'm saying? Rick Rubin. Yeah. A couple months before that, you know what I had like a retreat there. And he was bringing, you know, a few people through. He said, yo, little Yada, you know, he's going to come through. I was like, hell yeah, bro.

Like, yo, it's shit hard. People trying to tell me like, like, yo, you had told him, bro. I'm like, bro, like, whatever, whatever. He came through. We vibed out. We played each other music or whatever. It's very, very, you know, business type or whatever. Like, you know, my people's at the time.

Thomas did his, you know, whatever. A couple months go by my man, Haji, you know what I'm saying, who, uh, you know, did a lot of, a lot of camera work or whatever. Like, he's, he's, he's killing shit now. But like, he was doing, you know, hot shit for Yadry or whatever. I'm like, okay, you know what I'm saying. See that? Well, whatever, I tap me.

I'm like, yo, you know what I see one, whatever. Got his line. I'm in L.A. I see that he was out there one day with whatever. So I hit him. I'm like, yo, come through the studio, whatever, da-da-da-da. And shit, like, I mean, this is early, early on, you know what I'm saying? So I'm like, yo, and then had him pull up or whatever.

He was with Perry, you know what I'm saying? Like, and we had the thing going or whatever, you know what I'm saying? Like, we were sitting there stumped on the beat or whatever. You know what I mean? Like, everybody was just sitting around, right? And it was like, yo, it just needs something. I said, Rogey. You know what I said?

I said, give me, flulul lo, lo, lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo, you And we were so locked in, bro, like, you know, the way, the way me and Roge was, like, I would give him melodies and he would just lay them shit right out or whatever. And then everybody all jumped in with whatever. Then, you know, a couple of my home girls stepped in or whatever, you know, attractive young ladies or whatever. Yeah. Then everybody got this shit together.

I see pads come out and niggas start round. And shit like that. Yeah. You know what I'm about in person? Women. That's the energy. That's the first line. Like that's real shit.

And I'm like, oh, okay, boom, boom. We got some shit going. So I'm like, yo, what we gonna do? I just got in the booth. I was like, fucking like, in the middle. You know what I'm saying? Like just like off the top, one take, whatever. Nigger stepped out.

I was like, oh shit. We got some for real. And I was like, okay, cuckoooo or whatever. We was hype about it. But I was like, I'm gonna come in the next day. I'm gonna write my verse. That's why I was like so kind of like complex. Yeah, okay.

Okay. Yeah. Compared to the zany, just loopiness of the hook. And shit, when we came out with the record and shit, like, the paperwork started happening and it became an all-out war. And I'm like, what the fuck is this for? It's just about to be some soundclown. Yeah, yeah, right?

They knew the powers to be new. Like, like, I'm talking about it's a nigger that was sitting in a room who thought he was too good for the fucking session because niggas gonna bring in, yada, he got a Grammy off a submission. Right. He's going to sit in the room. He got, he ended up working some percentage out of the motherfucking thing. Just for sitting there.

Just, just, hey, yo, it was some bogus ass shit. You know you are. That's really bogus. Damn. But anyways, you know what I'm saying? We had to keep the ball rolling because it was just so much the game. Yeah. Yeah.

I mean, you know, whatever, whatever. I had no idea at first. Mm-hmm. At this point, are you on Empire or you? Yeah. Bro, I was with Empire, like, from, from junk, you know what, like, since, well, like, February. 2015, whatever.

Chachia video, blah, blah, blah. You know what I'm saying? Got upstream to Atlantic because they had an agreement. Like, yo, we're going to take your best scouts if we wanted. Yeah, right, right. They did it. Once Chachai hits and goes,

there happened to be a meek mill and Drake beef. Ah. That happened. Yeah. And Drake got into defense mode after some tweets and put out three records. on SoundCloud, charged up being the main one. I forgot what the other one was.

I think it was a remix to another song. And then there was this little C-side, not even B-side. Hotline Blime. Tune called Hotline Blame. I still can't believe Drake put that out in the middle of a beat. That's not crazy. It's fucking nuts. Like, yo, I could do that.

Ends up being arguably the biggest record of his entire career outside of maybe God's plan. Maybe. Mm-hmm. that's a direct bite of Chacha Yeah, it was. Where are you at in the crib in the middle of listening to the

Drake and Meek Beef? Because that's what that pack was about. It was charged up was at the top of that. That was the single. It was just this other shit over here that's a remix of the drum Chacha record that we love. Right. Where was you at when you clicked that SoundCloud link? Like, oh shit. Drake remixed my shit. Man, I was in a

I think I was in Virginia. I was in Virginia. And, you know, it was just a little shocking because it came out of the Chau Chau Remix. You know what I'm saying? As is. Not really hotline bling. At the time, at the time, it was the Chau Chah Remix.

Two weeks. So, I don't know. It's just really weird. I ain't get no reach out or nothing or whatever. And, uh, I don't know. kind of it fucked with me for a long time. Really? Yeah.

You know what I'm saying? Like that was my record. And it legitimately started out as the Chachau remix. But to be honest, to be frank, bro, like, bro, that's so long ago. For sure. Like, I don't even know, like, like, what I even had that, that angst to do a broccoli. You know what I'm saying? Me and, like, Queen Badoo, like, you know what I'm saying?

Fucking with me. Like, you know what I'm saying? Beyonce, Queen B. You know what I'm saying? Like her putting on Chauau with whatever, like, bro, like that opened the doors for all of the corporate sides or whatever. Everybody was, you know, sucking dick, you know what I'm saying, basically.

Yeah. And then it's like what she did on the back end, bro, how she tapped me in with diplo. She tapped me in with Mike Will. She told the writers of writers, yo, y'all need to watch out for drum for his pen. Sustainability. People thought it was like a Chau.

remix type thing. It was, bro, like, it was, it was the pen. How about that? It was a pen. And I'm forever grateful for everything or whatever. And once I was able to just like see past that shit, it's just like, come on, man. Like, you know, that's one of those things that's just like, man. No, but, I mean, I understand that and I, and just me knowing you somewhat personally,

I know what your energy is like. And you one of those, you know, I, you know. You know, you just kind of let shit go how it's going to go. But that is something that I feel like, you know, it's fucked up. And, you know, as black men, as artists especially, we got to always keep a certain level of just morals and ethics, respect. So has a conversation with you and Drake even happened? It's like a little whatever, whatever, like some years or something. go or whatever.

It's one of them ones. You're saying, but like, you know what I mean? Yeah. One of them ones. I mean, I think it speaks to the SoundCloud era so much of how like these records that are just meant to be thrown out. Almost come in post-mix tape era.

Like, let's just do some shit and throw it out. And then they turn out to be the biggest hit records ever. There's no real business in them shit. So it's like Drake at the time thinking everyone is going to go off charged up. It's like, let me remix this shit now. Yeah. it becomes the biggest record of his career and there's no real business

as if it would have been a single because now you've got to add in his pen as publishing you have to add in the producers that he worked with on the shit and then you get producer beef because if I remember correctly there was producer beef

with that entire thing because who's credited on Hotline Blink? Is it 85? I believe so yeah. Whose family love 85 but I know there was something involved in that. Man 85 talk to keep it a band

You know what I'm saying? You got them, you know, at the end of the day, as a man, your word is your word. Right. If there ain't no words, kind of not really. You know what I'm saying? I get it. Overstand that. But that shit, that's, bro, you know, like, let's get into what we got going now.

For sure. I did. That's one of the- You know what I'm saying. All that shit is just. Old past shit. I understand. Yeah, no.

We understand that. But, you know, it's just things that happen. And you got to have, you know, kind of make sure that they don't happen again. So you learn from it. It's all about learning shit. Like, yo, we learn from it. Like, all right, we know now, this is how we got to move.

This is how we got to do shit. So that's just important for, you know, artists just in general to understand that story and just know how to how to plan moving forward. More so not even harping on old bullshit. I do want you to get your flowers with so much of the melodic rap shit that exists right now because Broccoli became a blueprint for, I think, how rap is even delivered at this point now. I even watch Drake on what's the playlist album that he has. He tried to make seven broccolies on that album.

Which one? The playlist one. No. No, the other one. More life, which I like. But there's three or four attempts at trying to remake a broccoli. At that point, I wouldn't even know on a cut that. Even when like, like, record says, like, yo, that sounds like, it's like, bro, like, that

that shit ain't even like close. I don't know. like to go from like, you know, records that were like so, oh, to go from like records that were so like night and day, like clear copy, you know what I'm saying? Like, you know I'm saying? Like records that I heard like

had the sample get resample like three times. Yeah, yeah. You know, like you're dancing on the lines of infringement like that. I'm just saying even delivery and the melodic shit that came from Broccoli and on top of a business level because I remember looking at Broccoli when it came out and I was like, wait, that's the

independent song. And now Empire who I think does amazing business and has changed rap for the better. I think Broccoli was the proven ground for people to go to Empire. You could be a number one artist and be on Empire right now.

It kind of solidified, not a, like we know no limit to be independent, we know all that shit, but Empire had not been solidified. And no one had had a number one record, I think, at that. Was that Empire's first number one? Yo, bro, like, like peep game. When I had talked to Gazi,

like a couple years after the record or whatever. And he had told me that Atlantic, like, I guess without really telling me or anybody around or, you know, I didn't get the word, that they had put me back just on Empire after the Chachar record got like, you know, eating up like that. And when Broccoli came out and then they blew it the fuck up, Atlantic took it back for their year-in numbers. And it's just like, damn, that's a wild game. And it's like, you know what I'm saying? Like just to get ahead for the, you know what I'm saying? And then it's like I noticed they didn't have my picture on a wall until like shit was like charting and shit. I was like, oh damn.

Now y'all like me. Oh, yo. Like I'm kind of like as soon as you walk in the middle thing. Like oh, that's what you got me in. Like we kind of up near some shit. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

But I understand that. It's a transactional world that we live in in this music world. You know what I am I am now like like you know walking into this like whatever like even though You know learning from lessons you know firsthand. I'm not going to treat my people in my business matters this way. You know what I'm saying? Yeah It's just giving me the you know the the the fire the fuel to to to drive in the right direction. Yeah, I feel that So was going full R&B always the plan? Just despite any success any business. That's what I wanted, like, that's what I felt like, like, at the time. And it was also was also very much so, like, kind of like a co-wors, kind of like a suggested kind of thing.

Like, this is what'll do it. Yeah. Okay. You know what I'm saying? Like, kind of spaghetti at the wall, but like, I always wanted this, you know, I wanted to show advancement and what I did, you know what I'm saying? And it ended up being like a full R&B thing. Like, the album name was just supposed to be Shelley. You know what I'm saying? Like, Like, you know what I'm saying? Who wouldn't like to be still called? Like, you know what I'm saying? But it's like, yo, all right, if you're going full on R&B, you know, switch it.

Like, okay, I got it. Yeah. But at the time, it was just, it just wasn't, it wasn't even really no. Shelly is a dope R&B name. It is. That's with that out there. That's my government, too. That's just a fire-ass.

That's what I'm like, that's why would I be really mad at that? You know what I'm saying? Like, why wouldn't I really fuck with it? And I like the FCA drama shoot. I thought that was a hard full name. I'm not mad at it. Paired with that album and that sound. It made sense to me as a consumer.

I was like, ah, that's hard. Well, and I appreciate that. You know what I'm saying? And, you know, the powers to have been, you know, clearly. Yeah. But at the end of the day, when I got into this process making this album and it was, I don't know, like, like, damn.

Like, the album started like two weeks before, yeah, like two weeks before my mother passed. I'm not even going to hold you. And it might look like the second album was, you know, around that. But my album was done for two years. It was done in November of 2019. You know what I'm saying? It was just, you know, pandemic politics.

all of this shit, whatever. So when I'm recording, I'm just in Atlanta, you know, during a music camp or whatever, I'm working this bitch out with whatever. I'm living like carefree, you know, Atlanta was free from the pandemic

apparently, you know what I'm saying, shit was open. Like, damn, I was just in LA for the whole time. Like, you know what I'm saying? Having the best time of my life. I don't know, like, yeah, a few weeks later, And it's still so fucked up. You know what I'm saying?

And I don't know. So me making music, like, it was, it was really, it's been like a real, like, kind of like dark and like, I can't even really say, you know, in a sense, where whatever has a different kind of feel to it because I feel like a, the hugest chunk of, of my inner joy was knowing, like, just what me and my mommy went through, like, to even get to this point, you know what I'm saying?

Right, right. So a lot of shit sat on that project. It wasn't until I made wham. It just happened, like, bro, like, it was every, we all talk about it. Like, you know what I'm saying? Shout out to my boy Spiff. Shout out to my boy Hero, you know what I'm saying? Like, my cousin was in there, you know what I'm saying?

Shout out to, you know what I'm saying? my boy Cole who was engineering. It was an energy in there that night. Right. And something happened to where I was able to, like, break free from just... That emotion. Yeah, like, just even that approach, just what I wanted to hear sonically before I even said a word, sang a word. And I had fun, but it still got that...

It got that mixed in it, but it's like, oh, it's back up. And it's like, yo, like, you know, like, you know, like, you're... like, drama is re, like, yo, I ain't, you know what I'm saying? All my people's, they be like, drama, gentlemen, I'm like, yeah, yeah, you know, whatever, like, you know, all my lady friends, you know, Shelley, you know what, right. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm not mad at that. Yeah, I'm not mad at that. Yeah, but like.

Well, how do you balance grief in music where everything doesn't sound dark all the time? Or are you still trying to figure that out? Or as an artist, do you just go with the real emotion that's present? Yeah, you just go with it. Okay. feel like being around other people who can help you get free from what's just in your head. Like, you know what I'm saying? Like, this is just what I'm thinking about.

I'm thinking about how you won't dare for me, bitch, when I needed you the most. Yeah. How y'all niggas did me dirty, bro. Like, you know, I can't get over the fact. Like, I just miss you so much. You know what I'm saying? Like, you know, just down or down or down or down and down. Yeah.

You know what I'm saying? And it's just like, nah, like, bro, like. That ain't, that's definitely not what, what, you know, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's not the whole equation. That's not what she would even want. You know what I'm saying? Right. Yeah. It's still, it's, it's, it feels surreal even talking about it right now.

Like, I can't even. Mm-hmm. But I think to even get to that next point, you got to get everything else out first. Mm-hmm. Because instead of just using other people's subject matter, maybe working with music, where you want to be like, I'm sad, you wasn't there for me. These people did me dirty. I miss my mother stuff and you get around other people to help you. Oh, no, no, no.

Do other things in that regard, subject matter, but you got to get that shit out first before anything else. One thing is for certain. I've written 100% of all of my. Oh, no, I'm talking about a subject matter of like getting in a studio. No, no, that's not about, yeah. Look, let's all right into his bag. Like, you'll let's be clear. Yeah, yeah.

Okay. Yeah. No, no. The subject matter of maybe you wanting to walk in the studio and talk about something specifically and you get in a room, it's like, oh, we're on this vibe. I know I could do this type of thing. That's helpful, but you still have to get everything else out first. That's why I'm so grateful for this album, for this opportunity to be set up this way

and to drop, you know, such a raw and emotional project that has all of those things that I've been battling with, you know, and still dealing with, but just feel like this time around like you know like you know embracing the people that's still here for me that's still in my corner right and building with them and building business within my own infrastructure it's it's like a new it's a new outlook on things i'm saying like you know new perspective yeah a new new new reason to yeah you know to make her proud like i know she right yeah right that's a fact So as far as being an artist, what is your true, like, strong point as far as like being a writer? Like, do you love writing for others because you get to like jump into different perspectives,

jump into different point of views? Or do you like really, really enjoy just writing for what you know is yours? Like, this is mine. Which point of view, which way of writing is more enjoyable, writing for someone else or it's strictly like what's for for Shelley? I think it's the balance of understanding the assignment. You know what I'm saying? Like, if I'm here for you, for your shit and what you got going on, okay, I catch the vibe. Even the music speaking to me, this is what it's saying with whatever.

Like we make a language. And when it's for me, when it's for me, it's like the same. like whatever I'm feeling for for me. Okay. I literally once I'm, once I recorded WAMM, I have not written a single bar since. I just go in and black out. I call it the Away. I do it the Away.

You know what I'm saying? Fun fact, Cesar just lock in. She jump in like that. Oh, where? Yeah, bro. I don't even know. I'm like, yo, that's so crazy. You know what I'm saying?

Like, you know what I'm saying? And you're like, oh, damn, bro. Like, that's how it's just all connected or whatever. But I feel like, I feel like, I don't know. like with the way that I make records, it's almost like a muscle memory. You know what I'm saying? I'm not writing it down,

but I know the structure of how I write songs. You know what I'm saying? And I can say incredibly zany shit. Like, oh, damn, I just said that. That's funny as fun. Keep that, you know what I'm saying? And it's fun. It's a whole new way of recording and releasing music.

I say about six of the records on the new album wasn't written. Wham was the start of that. And I recorded. it like five records that just beat out all the, like, like, you know, other records or whatever, you know what I'm saying? And it's just crazy, oh, when I get this out, you know, just I will not be confined, like, whatever I want to do, you know what I'm saying? Yeah.

If I find a Jay Diller beat and I got something that I want to say, I say it, you know, I'm saying, if we turn shit, you know what I'm saying? I'm linking with everybody. I'm jumping on everybody's shit. If you dope, I'm jumping on your shit. Like, it don't matter where you at. with your shit or whatever. Like I'm back outside.

Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Like, I don't know if people know. John could rap. Not broccoli rap. He's a writer. No, he could rap. No, but he can rap rap.

But that's the thing. See, when you're a writer, when you're a pin pusher, it's like, you know, you know how to get into different modes and different emotions and things like that. What are like some of the things that you're into that people would never even think you knew anything about? Like, what's some of your things that you like? If people knew that I was really like doing this type of shit, they'd be like, yo, he's ill.

I can't. I don't even think I can. Oh, what? Nah. Some sick shit? No, you know what I'm saying? Like, they knew that you was a dude that just like, like, you just enjoyed, like, cutting lawns, like, grass and shit like that.

Like, you had a real joy in that. I think some of the people that, like, follow me or whatever, like, they know, like, over the pandemic, I started cooking. you know what I'm saying like like um like really really got nasty with that shit too like like I'm type of you you know I'm okay but like I haven't been on it as much you know outside open up whatever yeah and then I got into working out and shit bro like I had a lot like I don't know like you'm saying the lowest I got down to was like 198 or some shit but I was looking kind of out sharp than he when he was dancing outside yeah yeah yeah yeah I was like I don't

like that hand shoulder shit yeah just a big ass head put a little bit more way yeah I can run a mile, no problem, probably two. Okay. You know what I'm saying? Not a few. I'm going to be wheezing by the human. Yeah, yeah. Yeah.

That's all good. Put the hat back. Put the Jimmy on? See, I, come on. I said hat. Cut it. Gutter. That's why that's, look, gutter.

Favorite part of our DR troop? Hey, I snuck them shrooms. I stuck a cup of chocolate I said like, go hold you. Oh, you had to be chocolate, though. Yeah, you can't fucking around with like... No, I fuck with shrooms, though. Like, like, if it comes from the earth, you're good.

You know what I'm fucking with? I'm fucking with, you know what I'm saying? I fuck with the weed. I fuck with the shrooms, you know what I'm saying? Shout out to the bakery boys, you know what I'm saying? All our records that we was kind of... Look, for a better concept. After I finished the album,

and I did the Mix and Master session with my boy Louis, shot out Louis Gomez. Like, literally two weeks later, I booked another block of time. You know what I'm saying? And I had my boys, bakery boys come down and said, bro, I got to keep going. You know what I'm saying? We had two, four day sessions or whatever.

And we recorded like 37 songs, like straight, like, you know what I mean? Whole like, damn, like, you're giving me, you know what I'm saying? You're giving me, you know what I'm saying? Just fun, fun, fun, melodic, you know what I'm saying? Like, trap the fuck out, like real, real, that language. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? But it's so real to me still.

I walked in on one session. Yeah, he walked in on one of the most. I'm like, God damn, why this one? You know what I'm saying? Like, what the fun? I walked in and was like, oh, I'm not welcome. Hey, yo, no, I'm like, I wanted to be like, stop. I said to me, I was like, I'm out.

I wanted to be like, yo, stop the presses, y'all. Hey, yo, play Billy goat. Please. Play Billy goat. Play, lay back chill for her feet, please. No, I liked what y'all was playing. I could just see the vibe that y'all was on. I was like, it's a lot of people in here.

It's a lot of smoke. I see where y'all are going. I'm gonna just grab my Uber. I'm gonna just go lay down. No, no. But, no, you know, I appreciate it. Like, every time, one thing about Rory, since me and him connected out in DR,

every time he's in the city or every time I'm in the city, like we make a very, very good point to link up and shit. Even if it's non-music related. Yeah, bro, I've crashed on this very couch. Yeah. I ain't going to hold you, you know what I'm saying? So to be doing this, you know what I'm saying?

It's fine because it's like, You know what I'm saying? Like we, we cool as fuck. But like that doesn't, yeah, it doesn't get in the way in the integrity of what you guys got going on right here. No, I told, I told Rory. I said, yo, man, I like, I like him, man. I mean, when I first link, when I was in Atlanta for the LVR in our writing camp. I had my people's kind of down there.

That was. Yeah. I had my people's down there so she could write and shit. And I told Rory, I was like, y'all, fuck, man. As soon as we walked in the studio, it was automatic. yo, what's up? Like, yo, I fuck with you. Like, y'all, fuck with you.

Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Smoke, whatever. We're outside chilling. Then music come on. Drum. Like, yo, we need to get a mic going around. Let's just start scatting something.

And just, so when I saw it out, I'm like, okay, I see he's all the way. Like, yo, like, we're doing this wrong. Like, let's catch a vibe. Like, somebody got something to say, let's lay it down. Oh, I mean, shit. And I just knew I was like, yeah, I fuck with him. I just liked his energy. Love your energy from day one.

I was like, yo, he's solid, bro. He's solid. Thank you. And this could get into like some nervous studio shit. That is why I think drama not connected in the studio so quickly because he does the scat mic. And that's how we've done everything prior to. He's like, yo, let me just scat mic and just start mumbling some melodies and try to get

some shit. We'll fill in the words. I was like, oh, great. He works exactly how the fuck I work. Let's find a vibe in this shit. It ain't got to be perfect. We can sit there and write everything all day. There'll be no real feeling to anything unless we start crooning on this motherfucking scat mic.

Yeah, exactly. Exactly. I mean, so my process has pretty much been like that since I started or whatever, you know, a lot of my hooks, a lot of my bridges and things like that. They're really off the top, you know what I'm saying, like ideas and things like that. And the verses was kind of like fleshed out, you know, more so or whatever. And I don't know. It's just like reorganizing this shit, you know what I'm saying? Yeah.

Reorganizing this shit. and, you know, being way more open to just, like, really lock in with whoever for the greater good of the record and things like that. These bakery boy sessions, like, I'm looking about, I'm talking about that when I need to be talking about, like, that shit, too. You know what I'm saying? But, you know, we got this, we got this R&B. But it got some, it got some words up there. I got some says. I got a few says.

What was your favorite moment or favorite? session in creating this album. The Wham session. I swear to God. Damn. That was, that was unforgettable. That's for the rafters. What was one of the most...

Wait, but that's tied in with Vibe of the year, the intro. Okay. It was conceived in Uptown Newport News at my boy Gary's house. You know what I'm saying? Bad news. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah. But like, that's uptown Newport News.

Like, damn there, Fort Eustis, all that, whatever. Not the bad problem. Okay. I'm saying, respectfully. Yeah, yeah. No, no. But, you know what I'm saying? Gabe is there.

My boy Mike Mizzle. You know what I'm saying? Like, and me and him, like, that was like maybe the first time we really like linked like that. Because, you know, when he was coming around in the fold, I was like traveling and shit like that. I would only see him around.

And I'm like, yo, this nigga's cold, bro. You know what I'm saying? Like, bro, I had these micro-dose, these micro-sroom shits or whatever. Like, you know what I'm saying? Just take it. I'm like, man. Fuck it.

Overload. You know what I'm saying? Like, you know what I'm like, you know what I'm just like, we fuck with them shit. I'm like, yo, like this shit's going crazy. I'm like, yo, we need like some like, like, shoday vibes like some fucking, ooh. I started hearing all kinds of shit.

And that shit is the craziest shit. Every time I look into you. I say, I'm not going to sing. I'm not going to. Because every song, every song I've sang, I like sang. You know what I'm saying? I either did the, yeah, yeah, yeah. Or I really like got on my knees and shit.

Like, you know what I'm saying? But like that smooth like straight face like you know what I mean? Like really locked into, you know, my relationship with woman. You know what I'm saying? Like that kind of vibe. Okay. You know what I'm saying? I got you.

That shit gets you in touch with your relationship with woman. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. And it's like, yo, girl, girl. Hey, yo, what the fuck? I want to play that day. Yo, that shit, yo, I'd be playing that shit on my live. I ain't even going to hold you like, you what I'm saying?

that's one of them ones. It's, you know what I'm saying? It's a hell of an intro. I recorded it in Atlanta, but it was conceived in uptown New Pernoos, Virginia. Shout out to Mike Mizzle. And I love you forever, Gabe. You know what I'm saying?

You're my fucking brother. I like that. Most frustrating moment creating this album. Whew. I ain't going to do that. Damn. I think, I think when it's, when it's about,

just the clerical parts of this thing. It's the worst thing on it. How, how, how, how simple you would think that, you know, once it's outside of your hands, I've done everything. I dealt with all my problems, anything I did. I took it on a chin. I didn't pay that bill. I didn't took that tab.

But when I give it to you as my baby and you drop it on his head. Oh, yeah. I'm a fight. You know what I really want to, like, pull up. Yeah. The fuck? Yeah. And that's something that, you know, I'm glad you said that because a lot of the times we forget that part of it in the creative. It's like, oh yeah, we're having fun. It was real vibes.

But by the way, I think you should forget that when you create. Oh, yeah, you have to. You have to. But then that's the catch. As a walking business, then you pass it. Like, I did my job. I passed it to y'all. And then now of a sudden it's a whole fucking argument.

Because everything, my whole, my whole platform is set up. Like, my whole business platform is set up on accountability. It's things like if I have to be there Whatever if I'm not there if I'm there I fucked up I fucked up or whatever you know what I do I do do da-da-da-da-da you'm saying We all make sure we're on shit Whatever like um you know set the record straight

I have a whole brand new operation you know what I'm saying Shout out to Benner Shout out to Alex you know saying like Thank you you know saying that was all family in here Yo it's so circled in yo big homie Nigel you know I'm saying like I love you forever my big bro my uncle all that, you know what, you'm saying? Like, from day one.

Yeah. And bro, like, like, you'm saying, type of man to help you really reconstruct your career without wanting really any fucking thing. You know what I'm saying? Just want to see the right things happen. You know what I'm saying? Out of love. Yeah.

Yeah. You know what I'm saying? And for everyone that's no longer with the shit, the time was good when it was good. Yeah. Which is, that's life though. We ain't going to be on a sour hour. Right. Because life is sweet.

Right. Life is sweet. Pete. Look, listen. And family jewelers. Fuck with me. Oh, that's what you wouldn't know. I'm a jeweler. All these pieces, you know what I'm saying? Put together by me, big babes.

Okay. No, no, no, ball cap. Okay. This is going to run you, though. Yeah, yeah. But no, no, best, no, best prices, bro. Like, we can get into a whole, I'm going to do it. Yeah.

We got to do a series. We got to, like, bro. Oh, no, this is just the beginning. Our society is broken. Yeah. When I get money, black society, you know what I'm saying? Even truckers, you know what I'm saying? They're going to get that bus down.

Football players, they're third round pick. Yeah. Who's going to get that for, you know what? You don't even know they putting them yellow. Yeah. Yeah, yellow. Yellow down. You know what?

You know, I don't got. Sort of yellow. Of course. Yeah. Family jewelers, please fuck with us. You know what I'm saying? You'll see. You know what I'm saying?

My boy Sonny Digital, you know what I'm saying? He's supporting me. Got a couple rings. Okay. You know what? We got to come see what you're working with. Oh, yeah. Yeah.

I see. Yeah. I see. Okay. I see you. Yeah. I never been like a jewelry guy until it because I was like, yo, it's got to be a, it's a catch.

You know what I'm saying? I figure out the catch. I'm like, okay. And I can work my move. I'm going to do all right when I tell you my numbers. Your eyes going to drop. I'm like, damn. But I'm going to be all right.

Just trust me. But most jewelry is the asset. Like, you got to move your money real quick. Might as well wear it in the meantime. Right, thanks. And then turn it back in and get your money back. Oh, man. Yeah, bro.

But that's a whole other conversation. Yeah. No, you could you can hide some of your money and jewelry for the IRS. Oh, yeah. Hey, hey, hey, hey. Hey. No, it's legal. It's legal. No, no, I'm telling legal thing. Legally, put your money in jewelry. Yeah. And then get it back after tax time. Yeah. I ain't mad at that. Hey, oh, that's, see, that's why I'm in. See, because it'd be a lot of moments where he say, sir, but it's already locked down. I say, just get the laughing. You know what I said, we do that laugh. You'll say, you'll say, you. got that, say, yo,

you got to hear Gates laugh. He got a wheeze. I'm trying to include my people in the background. Man, I love Gates. Real free band. All right. Name of the album when it's coming out.

All the plug shit. What had happened was dot, dot, dot. That's the name of the album. Love it. I'm addressing things artistically. You know what I'm saying? It's not in a pamphlet. Love it.

Read Between the Lines. I hope that you can connect to it and that you can feel it. Shout out to this event. tonight, you know, New York City, a select few, you know, y'all going to hear this. Astor Club. Yeah, Astor Club. Shout out to Ask the Club. You're going to be able to smoke up the walls and carpets.

You know what I'm saying? Like, for real. Virginia, it was just as grand. Like, it was crazy, bro. Like, I love you, 757. You know, you have my heart. You know what I'm saying? Like, um.

Drum seems happier. Yeah, bro. Yes, bro. Yes, bro. Yeah. Yes. That's good. It's still a cross.

No, no. It's going to always be a process, but you seem a lot happier. You seem like you like the way things are headed, the direction. You seem like you have a new energy, a new spirit, new motivation. And, you know, I know the type of guy you, I know you're going to only use that for your passions and whatever that may be. You know what I'm saying? Like you're going to always create because you're a creator. You're going to write your writer.

So yeah, man, I'm just, I'm excited to sit back and watch you, watch all your shit take off, man. Big Baby's Bakery's. family jewelers, bakery boys You know what I'm saying? Ellis Quinn Randana You know saying Trip

You know saying All the all the guys You know saying Cuzz you know what you say You know saying? Boopi I love you Dude to say I love you I love you my baby

I love you And I love y'all bro I love y'all more for real I like it Yeah All right we close out here We'll be there tonight

If we don't have to record Seven episodes after this Yeah no I'm definitely gonna come out Come fuck with you smoke some more. I love the candy paint. Leak cash, you know what I'm saying?

Big Don, where 30s? Where can people get the weeds legally and all that shit? Like, To be continued. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I wasn't sure if that was set up. We could cut all this. Just want to make sure you could plug where you could buy the weed once that gets moving. All right, so we were here with our boy.

Our guy, drum. I'm gonna start call you Shelley. I just like Shelley. I prefer Shelley. Call me Shelley. Call me Shelley. Okay. Because on this album, I feel like people are going to have to decide and decipher what was a drum bag and what's a Shelley bag. And drama is to be interpreted different ways because if you fucked with caretaker and Wi-Fi and Sweet Virginia Breeze, you see drama differently anyway. Yeah, yeah, absolutely. It's more so, in my opinion, subject matter.

Okay. All right. I think you just go back and forth, Shelley out. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, we're going to figure it all out. It's going to all make sense. It's going to all make sense. Like I'm rocking with y'all. Louis streams go to the same spot.

It's cool. Yeah. Same IP address. Come to me. Come to me. That's our boy, Shelley, man. Look out for the new album.

What had happened was. Big Babes back, drawing back. You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? How's the fucking? Oh, isn't it? He's good and bad.

You know what I'm saying? The smartest dog you ever know. Yeah, Bays isn't here today. I'm mad. I'm mad. I'm mad you ain't to see Baisley. And I love you, Bear. Bear, bear's my sidekick.

That's my girl dog. He's He loves me more than Than stinking feel like But isn't it so cool You know what I'm saying He just Yeah

He reminds me He's me so much Like you know He want to be up under you So and then he wants to Get away Be you know I saw Rory post something

The other day Say yo You cut it with your dog Walking to the bedroom Put him down And dog just walks out the room Yeah No for real

Never felt betrayal like that Yeah Yeah like For real Especially when they are puppy They just be up under you All the time And now Baisley's like

of age where she wants to do a little thing she got her own life. Right. And now like I get offended. Yeah, that grown up like I'm wrong. No, no, really offends me. Like she used to follow you. Literally, I could walk to the most random corner of the house and she would follow me like, what's you doing? Yeah, yeah,

now. Now we go and like, it's time to lay down doing a movie and basically like, what's going on a living room? I'm like, you have some nerve, you bitch. Yo, that's your dog ditch. Is that not the proper name? Yeah, it's the proper name. It's the only time you can use the word pitch?

You might be a minute. I'm not stop. The dogs might cancel us. She's a female dog. Yeah, the dogs might cancel us. The dogs might cancel. I ain't, I ain't endorsing that. You know what I'm saying?

I ain't endorsing. Minus that. Subtract and equals me got love. Yeah. Everybody, E-L-E. Everybody love everybody. That's a fact. I call basically a human and they got mad at me.

They tried to cancel me because I'm like, oh, no. No, no. Isn't it in the, in the, in the part of the family? Of course. Isn't it so? And it's so cute. So I can't. Is she a dog?

I can't say bitch because she actually is by definition a female dog. And I'm like, nah, my human, that's my daughter. Like, how dare you call that your daughter? She's not a, are you saying women are dog? That happens? Yes. Welcome to the internet. Oh, boy.

That's what I'm saying. I just want to love my puppy, dear. I look past that. I just want to love my puppy. I just want to love my dog. Yeah, I love my dog. All right, man, we're going. All right.

We're going to smoke some all this shit. Shelly, man. What's you think? You fuck with the candy paint? I'm fucking with the candy paint. Hey, let's go. You know what I'm saying? We won for four.

You know what I came through with four flavors. You know what I'm going to rest of the shit. I got to get my, I'm seven out of ten with my wink. You know what I'm saying? Okay. But when I get it right, Ducey, say, you better not be using that win. How do you get to eight out of time? Practice?

Muscle memory. You know what I'm saying? Just like, is it a cheek to forehead ratio? How does it get? Like, if I go a little to the side and. give a little Clint Eastwood, like, you know what I'm saying? Like, mystique, you know what I'm saying? And then, and then I can, I can't, I can't, it can latch.

All right, this is another episode of New Rory and Mall with our guy, our brother Shelley, get that album, what that happened was when it's available. Breaking down the wing game is hilarious. Yeah, yeah. Seven out of ten. And here's Heather with the weather. Well, it's beautiful out there, sunny and 75, almost a little. chilly in the shade. Now let's get a read on the inside of your car. It is hot. You've only been

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