New Rory & MAL - Episode 130 | Why Don't We Believe Black Women?

Episode Date: January 3, 2023

Welcome to our first pod of 2023! Let’s talk about equity. Actually, nevermind. Mal continues to defend Michael Jeffery Jordan in all group chats. Even down to his warm-up music. Speaking of ongoing debates, we discuss the guilty verdict from the Tory vs. LA County. Roc Nation really brought it home. Drake vs. Kendrick…who ya got? After the esteemed hip-hop heads at the New York Times crowned Kendrick the “greatest of his generation” we decide to share why we disagree. Between Drake’s timestamp records and raw-dogging a rando we have our winner. Would you let Drake sing to you at a show? We continue the music discussion with Obama’s annual playlist. And once again, Mal and Julian are let down by the Knicks, but uplifted by the new season of ‘Emily in Paris.’ Listen in as the guys discuss all of this + more on the first episode of the year.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoicesSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Maul, which one would you go, Dolo to? Between Drake and Kendrick shows? By yourself, literally. Barclays, just you. Barclays, just you? Just you. No, no, you're on the riser by yourself. I'm the only person in the arena and Drake is performing?

It's just you and Drake. You and P. You and the boy. You and P's and Drake? Even better. 40's still doing the sound. You just can't see 40. It's just you and the boy.

You and the boy? I'm the only one in the arena. You're the only one. You're the only one. He'll do an NBA when he's stepping in the arena. And you have to take the train there. And he has to rub your belly. I feel like a pansy, even answering this.

But I'm going to see Drake. No, Warren. I'd have one question for you gentlemen. Has anybody seen the equity? Where was the last place you had it? I don't know. Retrace your steps. I promised you.

I just called my Uber because I think I dropped it in the back of the Uber. Well, you know, sometimes I drink and sometimes I get crazy. I know. With the equity. And I thought I saw you with it last. And I started to say, you know what? Let me take that from Rory and hold it. Just for a second.

Because he, like holidays. Yeah. I don't trust him with the equity. Yeah. So let me just take. Sometimes when I get around certain people with the equity. Yeah. You start.

You start. Yeah. People start taking it from you. Taking pictures with the equity. You know. You can borrow my equity for the day. Welcome to a new episode of the new Roryam All podcast. I am all.

I am Bazley's father. And we are back with a new episode for your headtops. We are back feeling great. Just got done with Christmas, gentlemen. Yes. Good to see you guys. A king was born. A king born in a manger, if you will.

How are you guys feeling? Did you enjoy the time? time with the fam? I chilled. It was a very, probably the calmest Christmas I've ever had. One of the calmest ever, for me, by far, just the way I like. You're here? No, I went to see the family down south, down to Virginia.

I went to see the family. I got one of my favorite Christmas gifts ever from my nephew, my sister. They bought me like, it's called like a, I thought it was like a smoking jacket, like a cigar coat. Okay. But it's like a house coat. It's kind of like a robe. I was going to say it's a little thicket in a robe.

It's a little more stylish. Gotcha. you. One of the best Christmas ever because I'm a house person. Oh God, I had so much fun wearing that thing yesterday. Would you wear it to Astor Club? No, I don't want it to smell like smoke. I don't want it to be like filled with... So it's not a smoking jacket.

It's not a smoking jacket, but it's heavy like a smoking jacket. But it's stylish, it's comfortable. It's kind of like a cool robe to wear in the house. It's not like a typical robe. It's kind of, you know, got some style, some swag to it. That was one of my favorite Christmas gifts, only because I love being in the house and that's perfect for me. Okay. And you did the lump sum of

cash workout with your nephew? Yeah, I mean, he asked me for 20 bands. Had to give him all singles. 20 bands, all singles. My nephew, yo, he's at this age, man, where it's fun watching him, like, learn about just, like, new things. And you remember him back to when you was a child, like, at that age. So it's like seeing it all over again.

So he's at that age. And we play video games. It's crazy how kids are still, like, playing Mario Brothers. Yeah, I mean, some things are timeless. Yeah, like, so we play Mario Bros. others like for like 10 hours on his Nintendo switch you know I did that with my niece yeah like I had I had and I and I realized how much I suck now my muscle memory and Mario is terrible I act like I don't know that I can't like just run into like the ducks and things like that like jump on them and then

but as you know you start playing and you get your muscle memory and my nephew's looking at me like oh you played this before I'm looking at him like you have no idea I just now take a different type of mushrooms yeah my life is progressed in the pipes that I run down Oh, man. Did the kids still play, Golden Eye? Is Golden Eye still a thing? GoldenEye is supposed to be coming back, actually.

They're restoring it. Yeah, it's coming back. That was a, ooh, that was a game. Might be my favorite video game once in. Oh, yeah. The one of the best. Goldenhammer. Huh? What?

Did you guys have the no objob rule? Yeah, whatever his name was? Yeah, because he was too short. Yeah. That was one of those things. It was like, come on, man. What are we doing? Yeah.

There's a terrible Tori Meg joke in there. I'm just going to leave along. I saw, we're going to get to that in a minute. I saw it was another Oh somebody on social media posted how hard it was to shoot a free throw

in the first 2K on Sega Dreamcast And I started laughing Like you literally had to line up two arrows Like the two joints Oh shit yeah I forgot about that Bro that was the worst It was the craziest thing to do

Like I don't It's so crazy how far video games have come But yeah That's all I did for Christmas I played video games My nephew all day That was like when Was it NFL games?

Game Day? Was that the first one before, like, the Maddens took over? Yeah. Because we played Blitz and, like, field goals weren't a thing. You just hit extra point and you got the extra point with Blitz. Oh, man. Then NFL Game Day came out and you had to line the shit up like you had to do with the free throw stuff. Yeah, I don't remember. Y'all don't remember Tecmo Bowl. No, I definitely remember Tecmo Bowl? Remember Tecmo Bowl? Yeah, like NES? I don't know that one. Yeah, I'm not sure. Mike Bovarro from the Giants, cheat coat. Slant route with him. Game Day, 9. I had that. Put it up on the board. I had NBA live when you had to sub-Cobion. Oh, yeah.

Sub-in-Cobian just sounds crazy. You had to sub-Cobian, which was weird because he was like huge at the time. I don't know why they kept him on the bench in the game. Yeah, well, he came off the bench his rookie year. He didn't play much. Well, he had fake Mike in the game. Yeah, player number 99. Yeah.

Because Mike wanted his royalties. Yo, I woke up. Well, nothing did wake up, but I looked at my phone earlier. Oh, no. You know, shout out the generation now. Shout out to Don Cannon, DJ Drama, Lake. Terris is in that text too, right? I'm not sure.

I don't think so. He's not? No, I don't think so. They just know how to round me up. Oh, this happened in that thread? Yes. They just know once they say, Braun and Mike that I might not say, we can argue all day, Kendrick, Drake.

I can watch you guys talk about that all day and more. And just read it. Like, some of my favorite music minds in the chat just talking shit. But whenever you say Mike and Braun, they know how to get me out the house. It's like, all right, now I've got to fall into it. And I looked at it and Julian, Julian, I promise you, I promise you I was not going to respond. But I just, 75 Texas later. It just, it just boils my blood because Dirknewitsky said something.

He said that once LeBron passes Kareem, which he will, and shout out to LeBron, that's a great achievement. Once he passes Kareem for all-time scoring, Dirknerwitz, he said, it's going to be hard for him to keep making excuses that Mike, and I didn't like that that word, making excuses that Michael Jordan is the greatest. You don't, Dirk, watch your fucking mouth, all right? You don't have to make an excuse that Michael Jordan is the greatest basketball player of all time. Dirk, you have one fucking ring. Well, I just think it was funny that we put in the group chat, the Kendrick being the greatest rapper thing. And that was- And I love Dirk. I don't want to seem like that. That was debated for all of four seconds before Lake and Mall went on a 75-text rant back and forth. Yeah, man.

Rehaving their same exact conversation. I put my phone down. Because they know what they're doing. Rory, I'm sorry. 75 text messages later. I apologize, bro. I'm trying. I'm like, oh, God.

Did someone go through my DMs again? In 2023, I promise you, I'm going to work on not debating Mike and LeBron. I promise I'm going to work on. It's an addiction for both of you. It is, man. Because you know why? It's just the disrespect, the blasphemy that comes from the brains of some of the most, you know, the great music minds that we have as friends.

I just don't understand. I feel like this year would be harder for you. 23. Yeah, no, I'm going to let the year speak for itself. You can't say the number 23 and not think of. That's what I'm saying. You guys don't add in, you know, you guys are the sports guys. So in those debates, I can only add in the non-sports brain factors and stuff.

For example. We're debating if Scotty Pippen with these new rules would average more than 20. And I'm throwing in the wild card that in this era, future sits courtside. Yeah. So it's way different than in the 90s. Yeah, when you start to add those little. Those little things. Attributes.

Those are important things. Yeah. Regular season game, Future just chilling right there. Yeah, that's the monkey, that's the monkey wrench in the game right there.

And we saw it like how sensitive Scotty can be. Oh yeah. A youth though, future just chilling. Yeah. With his music playing in the arena? Yeah, yeah.

I'll add a wild car that's even crazier. Not future with Scotty's ex-wife with a different girl. Like now my ex-wife is cheating on me and you're cheating on my ex-wife with another girl at my game.

He's averaging four points. Michael's son's there too with Mars. And you got to throw in the fact that Mike's son is now dating. Yeah, that's what you want like never add these factors into it. It's going to be tough for the bulls. They're behind the hoop waving the things for the free throws. For context, they were asking with the Warriors team with KD, with the Bulls are 70 and the 70 win Bulls, would they beat that Warriors team with

Katie? I think that that Bulls team would, but then he asked, with what rules? The 90s rules, which I think the Warriors don't have a chance. Versus the rules now, which I'm like Mike would average 50, 60 points a game with these rules. Like, you can't even touch Mike. Come on, man. Another factor to add in, now at NBA games, they play music like during the game. At one point, that was only sometimes timeouts or halftime.

Yeah, well, Mike will look at the score of tape and tell me shut that shit off and they would just shut it off. You know, Mike would never allow future Drake in Thames to be playing when he's bringing the ball up. Cut that shit. Put on some. What was Mike listening to in the back of the bus? he was jamming. Oh, what was that clip? Michael McDonald's this? No, no, no, no.

It was, uh, what's my man's name? R&B. Do I look, Kenny Lattermore. Oh, yeah, okay. Yo, Mike was going crazy in the back of the bus to the new Kenny Latter. And then he told the guys, y'all ain't got this yet. It didn't come out. Mike, I promise you.

Them niggas did not want that out. That's the new Lattimore right there? Yo, you think Scotty Pivis' kid that Mike had the Kenny Lattimore album before it came out? Yeah. Man, Scotty didn't give a fuck. about that shit. But why don't they discuss that ever? Because we know like the subtle rivalry that rappers and athletes

have, specifically when it comes to women. Yeah. They play a lot of rap music during the game now. See, that's the difference. Like bringing the ball up, you could hear your favorite rapper. See, that's the difference. And these guys don't like the rappers. That's the difference with Mike. Mike was coming into the game listening

to Kenny Ladimore. Yeah. Chilling. All right, first of all, Kenny was definitely fucking a lot of the NBA. No, no, no. I'm not saying, I'm just talking about the energy, the frequency. It was just Now these niggas... Don't think Al be sure wasn't taken down the whole piston

for sure. Trust me. I'm pretty sure he was. I'm just saying Mike was just coming into the arena on a different frequency. Kenny Latimore on his ears. You know what I'm saying?

These niggas now all this drill shit. Yeah. All this kill shit. And you can't file. Yeah, and you can't file. So wait, y'all come in here drill music, drill music,

all this aggressive shit and you can't even touch nobody. Can you imagine Charles Barkley? Yeah, like get the fuck out of him. Remember Charles Barkley walking into the Suns Arena listening to Fabio. He would kill somebody. That's what I'm saying. Carl Malone listening to Carl Malone. Well, Carl Malone

was nasty. We don't need to talk about Carl Malone. Yeah. But you get it. With Dennis Robman, listening to fucking pop smoke. Yeah. Come on, y'all don't stand a chain. That Pistons team listening to drill music, the bad boys' piston scene? Shit. Even Isaiah Thomas would have died. Somebody would have got cut. Somebody would have got cut. They would have had a box cut on them for sure

in that Pistons team. Though I don't know if Isaiah Thomas would have made it through the Me Too era. But that's another conversation. Don't do that to my man. Zeeke. But anyway, I don't know how we got off to the tangent. But happy holidays. Happy holidays. Yeah, happy holidays.

Happy Hanukkah. My first Hanuk as a 3% of Jewish resident. How did you do? I felt welcomed. Yeah, I felt welcome to the tribe. Okay, good. I'm on the mailing list now with the ADL. They ask for a lot of money.

Do they? Yeah. Surprising. Shocker. Didn't pay my dues. I have a really good joke. I learned. That I learned.

You can leave it. It's a Jewish joke. No, thank you, Julie. Yeah. No. I saw some really shitty. I can't say shitty. But it was something very, very odd that happened at the game with the next other night.

They were playing Toronto, I think. And as Kyrie was at the free throw line, they put up on the screen in the arena, a big Jewish happy Hanukkah. I don't know if it was the anti-defamation league. But Kyrie's at the free throw line. And they put up this whole, like, ad above him. And I'm just like, all right. Like, I get it. Like, we still on that.

Like, that's no coincidence that Karii's at the, um, lightening them and the menorah. Yeah, like Kari's at the free throw line and this is what y'all are doing. In his own arena. No, no, I think they was in Toronto. Oh, it was in Toronto. Okay, then that's fair game, though. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. I get the sticks to the fans. Yeah, at this point. Oh, but that's like when Russ Wilson goes on the road and teams play future, like during one of us. That's like you're taunting. But Kyrie can't see that.

It's on the screen. He doesn't see what's above his head. It's hilarious. The clips get circulated. He'll see you later. They know the pictures. People are going to take pictures of that. It's just the NBA is playing a crazy game with Kyrie right now, but it's all good.

I mean, it would be nice if they put, like, actually the candles from the menorah on top of the backboard. Like, the way where the camera is and, like, light each one. No? Is that 3% of him coming out? Yeah, that's the 3% talking right there. Shout out to Kyri, though, man. Good, dude. I'm glad to see that Kyri is still donating money to GoFundMe that he just sees and feels like

sending money to people in times of need. Kyrie's a good dude, man. He went through a rough time a few weeks ago. They took all of that. To me, they took what he did out of context, but it is what it is. I'm glad we moved past that. Shout out to the Nets.

They own a good winter streak right now. Yeah, shout out to the Nets. The Knicks were on the winter streak, and they just, we'll talk about that later. So let's get to the news at hand that happened while we were all gone. Yes. What day was the verdict? This was Christmas Eve.

That was on Christmas Eve? Yeah. This was, no, was it Christmas Eve? We had the 24th, right? Yeah, it was the day. No, 23rd. Friday the 23rd, okay. It was the day before Christmas Eve.

So we have not recorded since Torrey Lanes has been found guilty. Yeah, we have not recorded since the verdict has come out in the Tory Lanes, Meg and the Stallion trial. Well, technically not. It's Tori Lanes versus the county of Los Angeles. Is this even a state trial? Listen, I'm not a lawyer. I'm not the smartest man.

I have luck gratefully, and, you know, I'm glad to say that I have not had to sit in courtrooms much. But from what I know, and I've seen, you know, just pictures of the dockets and stuff online. It says the state of California. The dockets. Versus Torrey Lanes. You read the files? I'm just saying that's what it says. The state of California versus Daystar Peterson.

I don't think I think that people you know first of all prayers to Meg because she had to endure a lot and still has to endure a lot after all of this and it's um

you know it's it's very telling man here comes the Rock Nation press release you're about to read yeah they sent me uh they prep me they prep me of course media long and hard pause you were also on the uh Rock Nation Zoom call to discuss the Meg trial

yeah I was exactly I was at Jay's house. B was in the kitchen, making us some banana waffles and things like that. So, you know, they sat me down. Yeah. You're spewing their agenda. Yeah, no, I'm pushed. I have to push their agenda.

You're one of the jurors. I am. I am. I was actually in the jury room. Yes. When they were deliberating. Well, they did in fact say that one of the jurors was a Rock Nation employees. Yeah.

And which I was like, yo, Lenny S has been off IG. for a little while now. We don't know where he's at. Where's Lenny S. Ben? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's true.

I haven't spoken to Shari in so long either. That's true, man. You know, I haven't seen, have you seen Omar? I haven't seen Omar. Haven't seen Omar. You haven't posted any people. It's crazy. I don't know where they're at.

I don't know what they're doing in that building. Mm-hmm. But, so the verdict came out. And Torrey Laines was found guilty on all three felony accounts in regarding this case. And a lot of things happen, Rory. People know from day one what my stance on this was, and it wasn't a thing of, and let me be clear, I don't dislike Torrey. It was a huge fan of his music. Love the Chicks Tate series.

I put a lot of people on to that back in 2011, 2011, I believe. Doesn't matter. Doesn't matter. But was a fan of his because people felt like I just didn't like Tori. I don't know him personally to not like him. I thought he's talented. From day one, I felt. that, you know, once Meg came out and said what she said, I didn't think she was lying.

Nothing about her told me she was lying. Nothing about her said that, you know, she was making this up. So I said what I said a few years ago about my position on it and how I felt about it. And, you know, people gave me a lot of kickback, you know, said I was just, you know, trying to push the female agenda and all these stupid things or whatever. Rock Nation and female gender. Yeah, yeah, all of those things, right? So the verdict comes out. He's found guilty now. I always said if he's found guilty of this, then to me he is one of the biggest suckers that we've ever had in our culture.

Because let's be clear. And let's just talk about facts. A black woman was shot and had to have bullet fragments removed from her foot. It should never be a situation where a woman is claiming that a black man shot her, two successful black people first of all successful black woman and the successful black man and the successful black woman is saying that this black man shot her now I've never seen a woman lie about a guy shooting her before and we've seen people lie we've seen women lie about things before uh you know it happens I me personally have never seen a woman

say hey this man shot me and she was lying about that we've never seen it which is why I can understand how it was unbelievable for some people to believe because this was something we had never seen. This was something we had never witnessed. So it was hard for people to be like, yeah, I believe it because it's some unbelievable shit. When you really think about this, like, there's no way that this dude really did that. But from day one, after she came out on IG Live and said what she said, never thought

she was lying and never felt like she was lying. Her energy didn't seem like she was lying. And I know people are going to go, oh, but she lied about who she was sleeping. I don't care if a woman lied. about who she had sex with. That's none of my concern here. The concern here was it was a woman that was... I have lied on my dick to say I didn't beat

when I did plenty of times. Oh yeah, that happens. You lie about the people you have sex with me. It's okay to lie in that regard. Yeah, I'm not worried about that. Just don't lie and say you beat when you didn't beat. That's corny. That's a whole different level of crazy.

I got bodies I'm taking to the grave. You could put Barbara Walters, anyone in front of me. I did not. Of course. And men do that. Women do that. It is what it is. So that doesn't matter to me.

That's personal shit. That's shit that we have. That's none of our business. Now, when a woman is saying she was shot, it's like, whoa. Okay, hold on. What's going on here? So she said her piece in the Adjilab. I always felt like she was telling the truth.

Her energy never said she was lying. And then I'm always in the position of I'm going to believe a black woman if she said she was shot by somebody. That's just me. I have sisters. I have nieces. I have a mom that I love. If any of them ever came to me and said,

hey, this dude outside shot me, I'm not going to sit there and be like, oh, you're lying. That's just me. So the state of California gathered evidence, had testimonies from eyewitnesses. You know, they called some people to the stand, and they felt like they had enough evidence to convict Torrey Lane's Daystar Peterson on three counts and found him guilty on all three counts. And then, you know, our culture, Rory, the hip hop culture, the hip hop community did what they did, did what they do. And they ran the social media and everybody started voicing their opinions. That's where I want to talk about this.

About the verdict and things like that. Now, I'm all for people, you know, hearing things and all that. But the biggest thing that I looked at Rory from afar was nobody was in the courtroom. Very few people. Right? everybody mostly let's say 95% of the people are getting their information from blogs which if we go back and run the tapes and that people have been putting up threads of everything blogs have been saying from day one that was just found to be false throughout this case my myself being one of the people that believed a lot of the stuff and even during a lot of this case because it was quote unquote rappers going back and forth some of the more like major middle america outlets that hire the real fucking lawyers to cover the case didn't happen. So we got a lot of our shit

from bloggers and just random fucking people and even this new wave I've seen of people that were lawyers and now want to be media personalities but are just good at selling things because they're lawyers. But they're not legally a lawyer right now.

They're a media personality. Right. So we see like, oh, this is a lawyer. He must be telling the truth. No, he was in there getting his media game onto. So I believed a lot of shit until the trial was over and I realized that Tory's defense team,

to the public eye, did an incredible job. To the court of public opinion, I think Tori's defense team won. Once I started really reading about the case, they did an awful fucking job, and we were all looking like, damn, that should have been a mistrial

or Tory being let off because they created a bunch of reasonable doubt. It was a fucked up case. But then you read about what was really going on there and not what the blogs were giving us. Right. Or what the blogs were focusing on. And it's like, okay, not really.

Because no, his DNA or his fingerprints were not on the gun. You know how easy it is to get fingerprints off a gun? You just wipe the gun. Yeah. They found gunpowder on his actual hand. That's where this whole guilty thing can actually happen. Well, they're saying that they found gunpowder on Kelsey's hands as well. As well, of course.

Listen, I still think there was a lot of reasonable doubt in it. But I think where the defense fucked up was their star witness said that they saw Tory fire a gun and one of Tori's charges was recklessly letting off an illegal firearm. Possessing an un... Possessing an illegal firearm a discharging a weapon

with negligence and assault with a semi-automatic. Because correct me if I'm wrong and please look this up. I do not think his charges were that he shot Meg, right? There's no like assault with a deadly weapon charges. with a semi-automatic discharging a firearm. Assault with a semi-automatic firearm, possession of a concealed, unregistered firearm,

and negligent discharge of a firearm. So he was found guilty on all three of those charges. The defense's witness, which was, his defense team's witness said they saw the shorter guy shooting everywhere. Yeah. Like that's what their witness said. Trust me, I was one of the people saying, oh, they've created enough reasonable doubt. this will be either a mistrial or Tori will get off.

I did believe that once that case started to go. And then when you look at the shit, DNA could not exclude Tori as a shooter. He tested positive for GSR. The defense's witness said they saw Tori firing a gun. The victim in the crime said he shot me. Yeah, Kelsey's stuff was a good thing for the defense to some degree. But when you put those three things in,

your star witness says we saw him shoot. The victim says he shot me. He has GSR in his hand. Yeah, I can see how a jury would be like, yeah. Yeah, he's guilty. I think that the biggest part of this was when they played Kelsey's statement from the night they were all arrested. And her story and Meg's story almost lined up exactly to the T. And I think that's one of the pieces of evidence that I don't think that they thought they were going to pull and play in court.

I don't think they were banking on them playing Kelsey's statement from the night they were arrested in court. And from what, you know, people in the courtroom were saying Kelsey's statement was very detailed step by step. They played text. They showed text messages from Kelsey phone texting Meg's bodyguard. They played audio recordings of phone calls from Tori to Kelsey, I believe. it's just you know so all of the evidence came out

I think they said it was 47 pieces of evidence when you have Kelsey on the stand already going back on everything she said and just creating all this doubt that only leaves you with what hard evidence could be and that's a text message from Kelsey saying Tori Shatmek

and her statement from the night that they were all in the precinct even as someone believed he was in Qatar for the World Cup working Naturally. So even as someone that did believe

the blogs when Kelsey was testifying like, oh, this looks really good for Tori, once you start talking to people that actually know the fucking court system and how jurors really are being presented with certain stuff, the only thing the jury had to work with

after Kelsey's testimony was hey, here's a text message from this person that just pled the fifth that says, hey, Tori Shyamack. Jesus, literally be undoing. So once you get down to all this and listen, I learned all this on the Rock Nation Zoom

call to spew the agenda and, you know, with one of the jurors sitting next to me. Yep. Right. That's what all this is. I'm just, you know, my ties to Rock Nation make me think this. This is all Jay-Z's fault. Germal? You guys give Rock Nation way too much fucking crap. Yeah, I put Jay-Z.

You think Hove has this much power? I know, I know people are just, you know, they just want to say Jay-Z's name for whatever reason. But I promise you, Jay-Z has a lot of power. Let me say that, first and foremost. But y'all give him more. and more fucking credit than he asked for or wants. I promise you, Jay-Z has nothing to do with this case

or the prosecution for the state of California. So you don't think the judge took the lunch with Jay-Z instead of the 50K from Tori? I don't think so. Okay. Because he was braving everyone. No, he was. And Jay was just saying, how about a Caesar salad at lunch?

You know, I mean, we got to just look at the facts. you know they used the the statement that Kelsey I think that's what was really She got on the stand and said she didn't remember She remembered everything up until Who shot Meg? Clearly she didn't

Everyone fucking lied Yeah From the prosecution's witnesses To the defense witnesses To everyone on the stand Everyone fucking lied So all it left was the jury

With GSR A witness saying I saw Tory Shoot who had no dog in the race wasn't Meg in that regard. Meg was the victim, so I guess you could say there's a bias there

if you want to play that game. Some random witness is like, you know, I saw him shoot. And the defense called me to be here. He has gunpowder and his hand. What else do you need? Because everyone was fucking lying.

There's, um, you know, so the verdict came down. My thing is this, right? I just don't know what Meg did for people to, because we, people have a very short,

blame what did she do to make him shoot her no not not that but what did megan do for people just just to not believe Megan because you got to go go back to the beginning she lied about what happened initially she said she stepped on glass yeah we know that that was a lie because the doctors verified that they took bullet fragments out of her foot yeah so we got to go back to that she lied about what happened as she said to protect to protect to protect them because there's black people. At that time, we know what was going on with the whole Black Lives Matter movement,

cops killing black people. She didn't want them to be in a position where they might get fired upon by cops if they knew a gun was in a car. So she lied about all of this shit. I just don't know what Meg did besides say that she didn't sleep with Torrey when it came out that she did,

which I said like we just said, people lie about that all the time. I don't care about that. But besides that, what did she do? do for people to think that she's such a liar. Well, that's what she did. Just lied about who she had sex with?

No, not even. I think the whole glass in the foot thing, like that set off a chain of- But hold on, but look at that though. A disbelief. And it was also- She said she stepped on glass, which we know was a lie. She had, so think about that. You know what just happened.

Somebody shot at you. And Rory will tell you from day one, I always said, I don't think that Tori ever meant for that bullet to hit her. I think Tori was firing at the ground, which is clown shit, let's be clear. Anytime you pull a gun out in the presence of a woman and fire it anyway, that's some clownsucking shit. You should, it's no reason. I can't even think of a reason why you would even do that, right?

But cool, I don't think that he ever meant for the bullet to hit her. As we know, it's bullet fragments, which means it was sounding like a ricochet. Bullets were shot in her direction and hit something first, and then fragments went into her foot. So I always told Roy from day one, I felt like he fired the gun after. her at her feet, which was the whole dance bitch thing came from. And I don't think that he meant for the bullet to strike her. I don't believe that was ever said, to be honest. Of course I do.

I don't believe he was shooting at the ground, which means dance. Like he's trying to make her move and run and get out the way. I don't think that he ever intended. Because if the bullet doesn't strike her, I don't know that this ever even really goes to court. I don't know. I'm just saying, I don't know. If the bullet doesn't strike her, the- Would this be still considered like aggravated assault?

regardless? I don't think so. If the bullet does not hit her, no, I don't think this ever goes to court. If nobody's struck, I don't think it could be considered a... Oh, no. Or a attempted murder. Well, discharging a firearm.

And a firearm and possessing a, and possession of a weapon, yeah, but I don't know if... I just think they all... Negligate discharge and possession of a concealed. The third charge, which was assault with semi-automatic firearm, wouldn't be... Yeah.

But I see them. if that gun goes off, I see them all, because they did all get back in the car. I see them leaving if no one's harmed and solving that amongst themselves. And if it gets back with maybe neighbors calling the cops,

whatever, and someone identifies Tori, they would have Ben got rid of that gun. Would have Ben said, we don't know who did it. Well, no, they wouldn't have got rid of it. It would have been a hard, it would have been a very hard case

to get Tori. If they never got pulled over and didn't that happen, then, yeah. Because I don't think they get pulled over, they get out of there quicker. if someone's not injured. That's just what I think.

I mean, either way. And I think everyone works together. They were working together even when she was shot at one point. Yeah. If no one shot, they were working together. I just don't know what Meg did for what seemed like the entire industry to not believe her. Because people also saw, let's go through everything. People saw Meg two days later on a boat.

She then, I think, I jeered her foot. And you know everyone becomes doctors, experts on social media immediately. Like, you know, oh, my friend got shot in the foot. that's not what his foot look like. She's lying. Like, yo, if you've been, you know how many, I remember that was the big one on social media. You know how many bones are in your foot?

Like, people became fucking pothiatrist in like one day. You know how many fucking bones is in there? Medical examiners. People became doctors, lawyers. Yo, my cousin was shot in a foot and he couldn't walk for like at least 10 years and Meg is dancing on a boat right now. Yeah.

And it's like, okay. Sure. It's just, listen, I'm like, in all seriousness, it's sad. The Wolverine of hip-hip. Yeah, it's sad that. A woman says this And at the knees

All of a sudden she's the victim She's like the bad person But then which we've I think talked about More off mic than on Social media loves to do the team thing Oh yeah It's Democrats Republicans Fucking Giants Eagles

Everyone just wants to be a part of something And part of a team And this became Are you on the man's side Or the woman's side It almost didn't even become Tori And Megan per se It became almost a gender war

And it was plenty of women That believed Tory And don't get me wrong It wasn't just men and women split, but it was like, do you believe all women? Do you believe all men? And they would just try to find any reason to be on their team and be right on their team. Listen, one thing we know is that they'll change facts to make sure they're right. We've seen women lie.

We've seen that before. We've seen men lie. They all tell the truth. We've seen that before. We have never seen two successful artists involved in a shooting, women and men, and women be lying about who shot her. Well, this also like never happened. That's like an ESPN LeBronstadt. This has never happened.

We've never seen this before. What would make people think she's making? You almost can't make this up. She's a black woman, man. Like historically, people don't listen or believe anything black women say. And I think it's much deeper than the hip-hop entertain. Of course. People don't give a fuck what black women have to say.

And that's like the sad truth. And that's my point. And that's a sad, sad statement. And it's a sad truth. We do not believe black women. Why? Why do we not believe black women? Like, where were we done so wrong by black women that we decided we're at a point where we just don't believe anything that black women said?

That's a very deep, deep question. No, honestly, like, just think about that. Well, we'd have black women done to us to where we're now at a point where we don't believe anything that they say. I think it's like the, even with everything that happened, still people in the back of the mind go, well, what did she do to deserve? There's always that. People will look for the reason, okay, well, what did she? she do. They'll immediately try to find that's insane. Everyone wants to

crack the case and be the person. And I think historically that's what has the new theory done. That is insane. And his another thing. And I, again, LaMia Rory have had plenty of conversations about this whole thing. I don't remember one time

ever hearing Tori say I didn't shoot her. I think he did on the album. I could be wrong though. I don't, I didn't listen to the album. So I, but I don't remember him ever saying. And that was my, if you didn't, if a woman says to the world, I shot her, let me assure each and every one of you here and everybody listening that it would be very clear in my response to my energy if I didn't shoot that woman. Granted, I've never been in that

situation. I hate to say what I would do, especially in a situation like that, but I would not listen to my lawyer if he said, don't talk about this case. If a woman said I shot her and I didn't, yo, IG lot, I did not shoot you. If a woman could say I slapped her and if I didn't, I'm going to go, Y'all go know immediately like he didn't put his head. You're going to just be able to read that in my energy like, yo, we're not playing that game. I never put my hands on this woman. My lawyer said, I can't talk, but I am. If I didn't shoot a woman and we're now in court about this and it's a trial, you think that I'm not taking a stand?

Like, you think that I'm not taking the stand and telling you exactly what happened that night? Okay, what if you can stand? But that was the thing that was the thing that was very telling about this. It was clear from the gate that the defense's position. was we're just going to try to raise a reasonable doubt. Yeah. We're not going to allow you to get on the stand and say you didn't do it because now you're lying in a court of law under oath, which is a whole other charge.

So we're not going to allow you to take the stand and say, oh, I didn't do it because we don't know which other piece of evidence they're going to hit us with. That'll be like, oh, shit. Like, you have a ring camera video of this old shit that we didn't know about? So we can't let our, we can't let our client take the stand because we know what really happened. Yeah. but it's our job to raise a reasonable doubt and have the jury come back with a verdict that supports us raising that reasonable doubt.

Yeah. It's also like the more you say, the more there's the, there more you can poke holes in the story. Which is my, which is my point. Like I just, people just have to use like take like we always said, the gender war, all that stupid shit. Remove all of that. Let's just deal with common sense. Yeah. If a woman says you shot her and you know,

you didn't shoot her. I guarantee you any man that's in that position that didn't fire that gun and shoot that woman would have been on that stand from day one hour one of that trial. Like, no, I don't care what witnesses y'all have. Put me on the fucking stand. Because I'm going to give y'all this shit right here, open and shut case. I'm going to tell y'all what happened. If I didn't do it, there's nothing.

I'm not sitting back letting people just try to raise a reason. And that was my thing. You're raising, you're trying to, they're trying to bank their whole case on less raise a reason. Not let's prove that you didn't do it. That wasn't the case. Not let's prove you didn't do it. Let's raise a reasonable doubt. And that's where they failed because they weren't baking on them using that Kelsey statement

from the first night they were all in jail. I just don't understand their witness, their witness that they called. The defense's witness said the shorter guy was shooting everywhere. So right there, you're already guilty of discharging a weapon negligently. Yeah. Right there. Like so it's just like, you know, I, I've just, it's just sad that, you know, you know, I think maybe the prosecution was really trying to go for not to get Tori off completely. That assault with a deadly weapon off, they were trying to raise doubt that maybe there possibly could have been Kelsey to shoot.

We don't really know who shot. No, no, no, no. They were trying to pay Kelsey as the lone shooter. No, I know. But at some point you have powder and someone saying he was shooting. I, maybe that was their angle. like all right Tori you're gonna have to get one of these charges you're gonna be guilty for one of them we're just gonna get

the major ones we're gonna try to create reasonable doubt I could see that like you already had the powder on your hand like you were next to a gun or around a gun it was in your hand so we can't really beat that so let's try to make sure it looks like Kelsey was a shooter and maybe you were protecting Megan from this crazy person trying to shoot you all and you did you let the gun go in defense of yourself so maybe the judge will be lenient

and it'll all be in defense and you didn't shoot her, Kelsey did. Maybe that was the defense. I don't know, I'm stupid, but... I've read so many things online. I just had, like, I just was just read things that people were saying. And some of the things people were saying,

it's just mind-boggling some of these people that think like this walk amongst us. I just feel like you don't need a gun at Kylie Jenner's house. I'm like, why, can we ever get to, like, the beginning of this day? That's a good point.

We can't, yeah. That's a great point. But again, I think a lot of people in the culture, O'Meg, an apology because, you know, for whatever reason, she was turned into the villain here and the bad person here, and she was the victim.

We know that for a fact. These are not accusations. These are not assumptions. She had bullet fragments taken out of her feet. Did you see a clip from Carl's IG live on Christmas Eve after the sentencing? Which Carl. Crawford. No. Not Carl

Cherry. Carl Crawford. He was off that good eggnog and cognate. You know, I try not to look at... He was fucked up. I try not to look at... He started with... He couldn't even formulate sentences at one point.

Yeah. I try not to look at... Not important, but things that people said in regards to this case in this verdict, because you never want to feel like you're in the industry or you're in around people that, you know, have these type of feelings. towards a black woman. It's just weird to me that... Like, I don't know about you, Roy,

but it's just weird to me that people felt like she was lying about this because she lied about who she fucked. But that's how even court systems work. They try to paint someone off one lie, and because they did that one lie, that means they're lying about everything. Yeah, but again, just go back to the beginning.

She lied about never even being shot. But this even goes back. to when you're on that team. Once you've decided I'm on the Tory team, anything that Megan does just is going to prove my point more. Look, hey, look at that little bit of evidence. That means Tori didn't do it. Like if she lied there, that means she's right here. But again, she lied about ever even being shot. That doesn't hold no weight. Like, she lied about being shot, which says she was trying to hide something that happened. Like, I was trying to hide that that whole shit even happened. But according to them, that means.

she was never shot low. But I don't know. At this point, I am kind of tired of sick and tired of talking about this entire thing. But, you know, I get it. Well, only because we spent the last year and a half waiting for this case to have his day in court. And it finally happened and the verdict was given out a couple days before Christmas. What's so crazy outside of that entire night is Travis probably beat that night. Like, Tori was never going to.

fuck to begin with. It's lit. Oh, shut out. How the fuck who. Kylie? Kylie. Like what caused this whole, like... Yeah, like I said, that...

Like Travis should have gotten there earlier. And maybe this could have all been avoided if everyone saw, like, okay, Kylie's man is here. That's, that shit that, you know, we weren't there. I don't know what the fuck... I know you're joking. But I'm just saying, we weren't there.

I don't... That type of shit. That's the shit I don't care about. I don't care about none of that. We're talking about a woman saying that she was shot. I don't care about why she got shot. I don't care about what led up to that.

I don't care about any of that. Who shot this black woman, dog? Bottom line, I don't care why she was shot. Who shot this black woman? Like, if my sister walks in the house and say some dude outside just shot her, I don't care why he shot her. Who just shot my sister?

I don't care why you shot her. If she didn't have a gun in her hand and was chasing you down with a gun? I was about to say, unless your twin was just Yeah, now if she was outside with the, yeah, now if she was outside with a gun, oh, then by all means, that gentleman wasn't wrong. What if she had the GSR in her hand? Yeah, like, then that gentleman wasn't wrong. But if she didn't, come on, man, like, that's just the bottom line here. A black woman was shot. It should have never happened. She didn't have a weapon. She didn't have a gun. So it was just like, you know. It was her stylist gun. You're not even doing the science. She grabbed it out of the makeup. Nah, it wasn't. That's what you're not doing the science. It was Jay Z's gun. That is true. Rock Nation paid for that gun.

Jay planted the gun in the truck. The very gun that he shot his own brother with from, You Must Love Me. He was mad that quarantine radio was taken off. It's an American gangster right there. He tried to sign Tori. Tori didn't want to sign with him. So he planted the gun in the car and made, come on, man.

You know when you put it like that? It's the rollout. All the prison reform that's happening was to reform the prison system to put Tori in that very same. Y'all not doing that. The math. That's the problem. Y'all just reading the blogs, which you're not really doing the, you're not doing the homework. You're not really going home and really studying the rock.

And then if you think about it, Carl Crawford was trying to buy NBC with Jay Prince at the time. Okay. I didn't even see. I didn't even put that into the equation. Yeah. I didn't put that into the dumb. You're not mathing, bro. Listen, man.

Again, prayers to Meg the Stallion, you know, hopefully to start some healing process for her and her moving forward. And at the same time, prayers to Tory. lanes as well. He has a long fight ahead of him. He has a very tough road ahead of him. And, you know, again, I just wish that we use better judgment and, you know, just don't let our egos and emotions take over us. And, you know, hopefully we don't ever have to be in a situation where we're facing anything like this. Because, again, it's just, it's not worth it. It's just not worth it as we can see throwing your whole life away for some emotions and some ego it's just not it's never worth it take the argument take those words on the chin say you know what you're right

I'm going back to my hotel yeah listen I fucked sorry yeah yo listen yeah fuck I'm a piece of shit yeah take it yeah take it on the chin take it on the chin and listen man you know life goes on you're able to still be out here moving around, traveling the world, making money, supporting your family, having a great time. You know, if you just got to check our ego and check our emotions, it's very important for black men,

especially, to have control of our emotions and to check our ego because, you know, you let your ego and emotions, you know, dance in your head for too long. You end up making some really, really stupid decisions that you will live to regret. So New York Times came out, said that Kendrick Lamont.

is the greatest rapper of his generation. Mm-hmm. And that's about it. No. They did an article about Kendrick's new chapter, his company with Dave Free. A lot of the videos that Dave has done. It was cool article. And shout out to New York Times and that old shit, but this is hip-hop.

So let's get to the debate of is Kendrick Lamar, the greatest rapper generation? Because you know that's all this was going to do. Yes. Kendrick Lamar has been named by New York Times as the greatest rapper of his generation. which is the exact outlet we look to to tell us who the greatest rapper of the New York Times. 100%. They own media.

Question. Which white man wrote this article? Answer. That's one question. Who's in Kendrick's generation? Well, that was my first question as well. Because I was ready to agree and disagree. You just got to give me the generation.

Let's get right to it. Is Drake considered Kendrick's generation? Yes. I would say 2010 to 2000. 20. Yeah. Okay. Because we would do generations in 10 years, right?

Yeah. Maybe. I know it's not how. Jay Cole? Yes. Kendrick's generation? Big Sean. Big Sean.

Waale. Walet. Waleh. Logic. Of course. Wait, wait. They had Jay Alec in Kendrick's generation? I see it.

I mean, he got popular in 2009, 10. I would say he was making music. Travis Scott? Or is that a little later? Yeah, like, Travis was out, but he wasn't like big. Yeah, I think he was a little later. All right, so let's just go with the obvious.

Let's go with Drake. Let's go go. The big three. This is really the only two we need to mention. All right. So I'm going to ask you gentlemen. I think this is just a great way for us to just kind of settle these. Debate these three once again.

Yeah. Again. She's never done this before. Same night. Same city. That's how we're going to define it. Yeah. Same night, same city.

Same night, same city. This is like our Prince and Michael Jackson debate. Yeah. Same night, same city. Who are you going to see? What's the city? Same night, same time. What's the venue for each of them?

Equal playing field? Eagle playing field. Because who's ever going to be in the smaller one, I would probably want to go to that. Eagle playing field. Really? Same amount of seats in the arena. Same amount of seats at the venue. Same night, same city.

What about like both of them at SOBs? If you want to do that. That changes things though If you want to do that As much as the Mr. Morale show was incredible If it's in an arena I'm gonna go see Drake

Yeah I'm gonna go see Drake It's records that are made for arenas And you have to factor in The amount of women That would be there Mad bit Same night, same city Drake, Kendrick

You go see Drake I'm gonna see Drake Yeah You go see Drake Eddin Yes Did you go to see Drake Julian 100% Yeah

Now in a small venue I don't know Maybe I would Want to see Kendrick maybe those records would hit better in an SOBs versus an arena. If it's the blue note? Blue note, I'm seeing Kevin.

I'm seeing Kendrick because you can do those on title tracks and I want to see those strip down instrumentation. I'm seeing him in Territon on the keyboard. Yeah. But we both know these guys sell out arenas, so let's go with the same way we did with Michael and Prince. Arenas, what they'd actually do. Yeah, I'm seeing Drake.

Full-out production set. Like, they give me their full show. Same night, same shit. Drake and wait, are they touring an album or are they touring just for the fun of it? I mean, all of it. They have a show Because if it was Mr. Moral versus

No, yeah CLB, I'm going to see the Mr. Moral show I want to go see Mr. Rao. Greatest hits. Yeah, best hits. Best of, yeah. Yeah, your best show. Put your best show out there.

Best two hours. I'm going to see Drake. Yeah, it's not even really, yeah. It's not even a question. So this is what I'm saying when I keep saying, I don't think we give, you know, shout out to Ken. We all love Kendrick.

I don't think that's debate where we're debating. But we, it's, we don't, I thought as big as Drake is and as successful as he is and as many hit records as he had and all the streaming records that he holds and all of these things, I still don't think that we respect Drake as a rapper enough. I really don't.

But I could see the time saying best rapper. This is what I'm saying. I'm like, this is what I'm saying, though. Best rapper of this generation, I can argue that in defense of the New York Times and a very reputable hip-hop platform, that he has the best rap catalog of his generation. Kendrick.

Kendrick, yes. I could make that argument. The best rap catalog of his generation. I think that is very, very fair to say, no matter what your opinion is as far as Drake's streaming hits, all that. And this is all opinion-based. Of course. Opinion based.

And that's nothing against Drake's catalog. I think his catalog is tremendous. It's just not all rap. And I think that says more about Drake's talent than anything. There's a more commercial catalog. Which is, I think, why he gets killed and has never deemed the go. because it's too popular of music. I can take all of Drake's

timestamp songs and put them in the verses with any of these rappers. As far as rapping ability, of course. Yeah, and you probably beat them. That's insane to say, we don't give this dude and I know they think we just fucking love Drake and we want to date him.

They think that I hate him. Well, yeah. But I'm just talking about his timestamp records. 6 p.m. in New York. What's the other one? 5 a.m. in Toronto. 4 p.m. in Calabasas.

But, uh, I mean, you take these records. It's 7 a.m. on Bridal Path. And I ain't going to lie. He didn't, he didn't timestamp it. But that last one on her loss, that's a timestamp record. He just didn't give it a time. Yeah. But that's a timestamp record. It was daylight savings that day. I don't know.

Sure. A bunch of solstice. Yeah. You know, he was on an island where there is, he was on island time. Yeah, he was in Turks. Island time. Yeah, he was in Turks. There's no clocks and Turks.

He's getting his hair rated. No snow clock. That middle of the ocean record is one of his best records. That's a timestamp record too. That's a timestamp record. That's a time stamp record. That's a time. All he had to do is say 315 middle of the ocean.

It's a time stamp. You can't fool me. When you let Drake just go and there's no hook, that's a timestamp record, bro. I mean, middle of the ocean, he was definitely on a yacht with a clock. Of course. He could have a timestamp. Of course. He just forgot what time he made.

I mean, there's no clocks in the Missoni room. He gave it to 21stamp. Middle of the ocean is definitely a time stamp record. I don't go for what nobody says. That's a time step record. I suppose. It's not a hook in sight. That's a time stamp record.

But again, you know, you didn't want to timestamp it. But like I said, I can take all the Drake's timestamp records and into a verses with any of these rapids y'all talking about. And it's not going to be an easy night. What's the versus grounds? It's just like rapping, like freestyle? Yeah. Yeah. Because I feel like Kendrick doesn't do that type of rap.

Like you could say the Hart Series. to some degree is like that, but it'd be hard to compare. I don't think you could do a timestamp versus with Kendrick, because he's not that type of rapper. The heart would be the series you would compare. But I don't think they're totally different. They just happen to have parts.

Neither of them of hooks. Yeah, but that's still not. Yeah, you're right, but. And one of the, one of the hearts, Hart Part 3 has Soul and J-Rock on it. They let, that has a hook. Hart Part 5 has a hook. They let the Marvin drums go.

Yeah, that's a hook. That's a hook. That's a hook. That's a hook. Well, if that's the case, then I could say the ride would be a timestamp record because it's just a weekend going in between. That's all it is. That's not a hook. How did it go?

I don't know. That's a time stand. The ride should have been a timestamp. Absolutely. That's probably my favorite Drake record. 630 on the ride. Look at the times. Look at what Drake be doing.

Like, yeah, we just look at those times. Why are you on Bridal Path at 7 a.m.? All right. So you're saying, and I don't want to do the Drake, J versus, but you think... Look at the hours he's back. How many times stamps are there? Why are you awake at 5.m.? There's only four times.

What are you doing? Well, I know what Drake is doing at 5 a.m. in Toronto. That sounds like round 2. 5 a.m. is round 2 time. Yeah, for 4 p.m. in Calabasas. We've been to Calabasas at 4 p.m. It's beautiful. Yeah.

And in the winter, when the sun is going down? Yeah, he's gorgeous. Drake was definitely on his 16th hole at 4 p.m. Calabasas. He was going crazy that summer. Well, 6 p.m. in New York, he was obviously in traffic. Yeah, that there's no. He had a lot of time to write. He was definitely in the Lincoln Tunnel. Not him in Dallas. I mean, he went to the Afties. He went to the AFD's. Now he just landed. 9 a.m. in Dallas, you either just landed or you were about to leave. For sure, on his way to the airport. Yeah, 4 p.m. in Calabasasas looks like he's gearing up for like a house party function.

Like, that's the sun setting. People are coming over. Or it could be a Sunday and you waiting for shorty to land. You know, it's not, like, sounds really specific. Yeah, you know, it's not like a Sunday flight for something you flying in. At 4 p.m. specifically. And the housekeepers just cleaned the whole crib.

Mm-hmm. You got something good rolled up. I clean my own house. Well, I mean, I can't really relate to this. I'm talking to my Drake. Oh, yeah. Like, you know the housekeeper just finished cleaning around 3 p.m.

Spray lamb. He got the text at 3.47 that she just landed. A girl that he's never met before in his entire life. Yeah. And it's about to raw dog. Yeah, Drake. And rubber belly? I'm going to be here.

Can we talk about that video real quick? Yeah. Get back to this rap shit after. Look how we just stop talking about Kendrick. Yo, drink is a fucking terrorist. We're just letting him get away. We're going to get back to Kendrick in a second. But that was the funniest video.

She already said Drake flew her out. She says, but he then kicked her out because she started recording him now. Which I get. No, I totally understand. So she said that she arrived. Actually, she said she put out a video of her twerking, I guess. That's our mating call. Yeah, that's how they...

For the boy. That's the bad signal for the boy. She's tagged his name, but she made it real small in a video to where you couldn't see it. But she wanted him to see it. Smart. And the fact that... On the story, like, I know how small you can make. Everyone can read.

You can make it into the smallest. Do you know how many... She thought it was like an eye chart and at the bottom. You know how many of these videos Drake receives on a daily basis? Yeah, but she's built. But for him, but for him to really be sifting through that. He's him. He's, I'm telling you, Drake is a maniac.

And we, we, I can't wait till a lifetime movie to come out on Drake. Some things are just fate. And like, maybe that was the one that was on top because that was who he was meant to be with it. Or it was 5 a.m. in Calabasas and he was just opened his phone and that was the first one he saw. That sounds about right. She probably, we don't, we can't see this young lady's, uh, twerking ability. She probably did a great job.

She probably was phenomenal. But that's bad, though, when you are sifting. through your inbox at that hour and you're drunk and you do book a flight for someone, then you wake up a few hours. It's such a gamble. It's such a gamble. Then you're sober and you're like, fuck.

So she, wait, she made her flight. Yeah, she actually, she's on. She's boarding now. She's boarding now. She'd have thought this through. Oof. It's nothing like a boarding now text. Oh, with the heart.

Oh, man. So this young lady, she boards the flight, flies out. I think she said he flew a private, actually. Flew a private. I don't think that she said that. She did. She said he flew a private. Where was she?

coming from and where she got? Oh, I don't that I don't know. The boy just had the thing on the runway just warmed up. A little Cessna to Turks. She didn't get the Boeing. He didn't sit another Boeing. He's not sending her to the Air Drake. Yeah, yeah. He didn't send it an air drake. He sent it a little you know, the Cessna. Yeah. With the same plane that they used to fly them things in. And they had 20

kilos. You know, that one. Sit in the back. The Tom Cruise movie. Sit her next to the bricks. Flew her in. And she said once she got there, Drake, they made her sign an NDA. So, when she walked in the house. I'm like, okay, the boy's on top of his business. Sign this before you walk in here.

Cool. Well, clearly the NDA didn't work. He's not really on. Well, this is why she got kicked out. Well, she doesn't know how to read. Well, yeah. No, she said, no, no, no. She said she read her NDA so she knows what she can say and what she can't say.

She did say that in a video. So taking a video? Yeah. She had a lawyer review. We didn't see the NDA that she signed. She obviously thoroughly read this NDA before she put her John Hancock on it. Imagine going through the NDA. Oh, so I can post you.

All right. That works. Yo. Okay, wait. So, reals or just stories? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, can I put this on my close friends? Only close friends.

So she said that they sat down. They started kicking it. And she said Drake started rubbing her belly and asks her, do she, does she want kids? Yeah. Now. What? He's a father now. He's like, he relates.

differently. Yo. I pray. He knows what the gift of life means and he wants to give that to everyone. I pray. I pray that Drake is not rubbing bellies asking women if they want to have kids.

You heard the drink. You never understand until you look at your seed. He's just trying to everyone get that perspective. Imagine if a woman came in here and I started, imagine if you saw me on the couch and you walked to the fridge

and you heard me rubbed a tummy tuck at that. Rubbing a tummy tuck at that. Yeah, rubbing a tummy tuck. Rubbing a tummy tuck. Rubbing a BBL and I'm asking it. You just hear me from the distance. You know, you want kids. I mean?

But then you look and you see me rubble her stomach. Like, yo, you want kids. And I remember that the last time you did this, you called her a fluke? Jesus Christ. That's what I'm saying. It's like, yo. But he loves it for who she is. Right.

Oh, yeah. You have to, though. You have to. So I was rolling on her story until she said that and I'm just like, all right, now she putting bullshit on Drake. But then she says, you know, they have sexy dude. She said he hit. He hit raw.

Yeah. What did you think was coming after? Do you want kids? Yo. Yo, I pray that Drake is not out here just smashing these chicks raw like this, man. Listen, his son looks like he can already ball. Maybe he wants to get a starting five.

From a rando? The first one did. The first one was from a rando. He said he hit once on that song. On that song. On that song, he said. That was for the bar. Sandy said it only takes one time, and it took one

on. One time. And then he said I only met her two times. This niggas living crazy. It's the only DNA that we ever celebrated. So she said, so what a move? So we watch a movie we drink in. What movie you think Drake put on?

Team Wolf. So we watch a movie we drink it. We did what we did. Drake looks like he watches like frozen with chicks. He did not use protection, which is a little weird. No, ma'am. You're a little weird. Yeah, you also have the power to be like, yo, a condomers. Man, these bitches ain't telling Drake to put a condom more.

So we did what we did. We cuddling. And everything went left when I pulled my phone out and I had recorded him. Why would you do that? As soon as he seen me recording him. I love that it didn't go left after, do you want kids? Yeah, like everything was straight at that point. She said, and as soon as he's, he seen me recording, he slapped my phone out my hand. I'm not going to even lie. I was a little scared because that slap was aggressive. You know, that's what Drake probably was like. He probably was naked.

vulnerable. Yeah, like, come on, you're not putting Drake on the internet, butt ass. He was like, you got to go. I was like,

just because I recorded, really? But I had posted a video on Instagram, all the receipts on my Instagram. So I got time for y'all who think that I'm lying. Moral of the story,

don't pull your phone. That's the moral. That's the moral. Well, he pulled out. So the moral is don't pull your phone out. Yeah, but she's like, I guess she probably, the world you pulled out.

He'll do the pulling out. Yes. There you go. He can pull out. You can't pull out, man. That's the moral of the story. He was probably in the NDA. See, he said, look, I get out the plane and they send a private out to get me.

He flew out private. A private car? Yes, it appears. These are two different means of transportation. Yeah, I think it was a car. A private car. Yeah, a private car. Yeah, an Uber black car.

Uber is a private car. He went rolling this girl. What's crazy is, what's crazy is, but before I got two sides of me signed an NDA, so I can't really say too much. But he asked me if I wanted children by rubbing my stomach, then we fucked, and then I pulled my phone out. She said, but I looked up my NDA rules. And then he aggressively hit it. So I know what I can and can't say. Indy rules.

Yo, man, I just pray that this is all a joke. I hope that Drake is not going wrong girls that talk like this. He a thousand percent is. Definitely is. Without question. Oh, my God. What the fuck is going on? More power to him.

More power to. So Kendrick, the artist is a generation. The greatest rapper of this generation. Not raw dog. Do we agree with the New York Times? Yeah, I think I'm going to have to agree. Based off this testimony, yeah. What? Did you listen to Mr. Morrell?

Kendrick was going crazy. He's not your savior. So he did in Copenhagen. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah. He went crazy. He went crazy. He went crazy.

I don't know, man. I just think that we still don't, I mean, Kendrick, obviously, I'm not mad at the New York Times, naming him the greatest rap of his generation. But I do think we have to just give a little more thought and look at Drake's rapping. I know he guys, the commercial hits,

he sings a lot of melodies and things like that on his song. So, you know, people say, oh, it's not rapping. He's singing. But just the Drake rapping records.

And like I said, same night, same city. We all agree we're going to see Drake before we go see. But, okay, let's make it even better,

Rory. Same night, same city, rap records only. Drake. I'm still going to Drake. Yeah. Yeah.

Drake without question All right I'm just checking A lot of performance is different from I'm just checking I just want to see where the room was at That's all

Even like even the hose Like his rap records Yeah You have to factor that in Now if you're saying Just like me Like if the arena If Drake was like

Yo I want to rent out an arena And like just have Rory come And Kendrick was like yeah I'll do the same thing The same night And just have Rory come I might go see Kendrick Dolo at the garden

just he looks at you the whole time. But if you add in the fans, yeah, I'm going to go for the ambiance with the music. Oh, so you're going for the, okay. Just Drake featuring himself. In the event that one day, Drake and Kendrick finally feel like they want to talk again and are like, hey, how about we both rent out arenas just to see which one Rory would decide on? I would go Dolo to the Kendrick show because I would feel uncomfortable making eye contact with Drake while he sings to me. Maul, which one would you go do-a-toe?

Between Drake and Kendrick? Yes. By yourself? Barclay is just you. Barclay is just you? Just you. No, no, you're on the riser by yourself. I'm the only person in the arena and Drake is performing?

It's just you and Drake. You and the boy? You and P's in Drake? Even better. 40's still doing the sound. You just can't see 40. It's just you and the boy. You and the boy?

I'm the only one in the arena. You're the only one. You're the only one. to do an NBA when he stepping in the arena. And you have to take the train there. And he has to rub your belly. I feel like a pansy even answering this. But I'm going to see Drake.

I feel like a pansy. I feel like such a pansy. I don't ever want to be an arena with just me and Drake. Okay. I'm going to add in another factor. That's just scary. I'm going to add another factor. There is no microphone.

Oh my God. So he has to project. He's yelling? It's just really you too. He's projecting. So he's just next to you. an arena rapping his songs to you. I'm going to see Drake.

Raise that one in me. I'm going to here. I don't want, I don't want Kedrick to look at me and say, I got a bone to pick. Did you know I have loyalty and royalty inside my DNA? I'm going to be like, sir, I'm leaving that.

Like, if my Uber's outside, I don't want to hear that, man. Oh, man, I love Kendrick thought. I don't want to. Okay. Yeah, like, if I'm in the only arena, if me and Kendrick in the arena by ourselves and he looks at a,

me, he says, I got a bone to pick. I'm going to be like, all, all, first of all, I don't know why I came here. And you know what? Maybe I can't go to Kendrick, because if he gets into some of the rap records on the pimple butterfly and it's just my white face and Kendrick, no one else, I'd start to feel a little good thing. That's what I'm saying. The white guilt might kick in.

Yeah, I got to be like, damn, it's crazy that we did that. The lyrics are just not as aggressive. It's just like, hey, I'm going to see Drake. I don't ever want to be the only person in an arena at a Drake show. Some of Drake's rap records do have a hook with him singing, though. So, like, what if it's you and Drake, and he has to sing the light up hook with his verse on that? And he's just like next to you, like, who would have thought in his life? And then you can come in on the whole verse.

Make it all light up. I can see it in your eye. What if you can make it all light up? What if you were in it with Drake and he starts saying, I hate sleeping alone? Don't ignore me when I'm singing the light up hook to you. Hate sleeping alone. You know, what if that's on the set? Like, what if you get to the arena and, like, the set list is on the scoreboard?

And you see hate sleeping alone. Like, the way it's with sports centers, you can see, like, what's coming up? And you're like, you know what? Maybe I use the bathroom at that time. And I love that record. I want him to perform that record. I just don't want to be the only one in the arena when he does that record. Oh, just the first line.

If he did hate sleeping alone at the concert, I would scream out. Those words are scary Virgin Mary. Like, I would be rapping along. She says, kiss me like you miss me. Fuck me like you hate me. And I'm the only one in the arena. Damn, those words are scary. It's scary bird.

Oh my God. But I think what would be funny without the microphone is if you were rapping along, it would be the two of you. It would be just you both. Two grown men. It's like those videos when you can hear of sneakers. Yeah.

Two grown men. Like, what if Kendrick, you go see Kendrick and he starts doing Love Me? That's a fire song. That would be on my... I would love that, yeah. But just you? Yeah.

I would hit a... Sakari. That's how you pronounce the name, right? Mm-hmm. I would hit his... Love me. I would do that, too. That's nasty, Lou.

I would help out. That's so nasty. Yo, being in an arena with two of the biggest artists in the world by yourself, it's just nasty, bro. Like, why are you here? You're the only one here? Go home. That's like being the only one to sound check.

Like, what? Yeah. Oh, my God. Well, shout out to Kendrick for being named. That's disrespectful. Would you think about your fit? No. Layed out.

The upside out will be your hat? I would go, like, oh, the whole way there. I would be laughing. Like, yo, I'm about to be the only one in here. What would you have, like, imagine you were, you know, talking to a girl. She asked what she was doing that night. I couldn't tell it out. And you were like, oh, I'm about to go to his Drake show.

And she's like, damn, I didn't even know he was in town. Like, now, yeah. Can I roll? And you're like, oh, no, like, you can't. Like, oh, is it sold out? No, it's actually nothing but available seats. It's so low. It's just for me.

Jamal. You wouldn't get that off? No, I can't know. We could link after the show? Would you put it on your story? No. I can't tell anybody that ever went to that show. You would go though, right?

Absolutely. Yeah. But I can't tell anybody that I went. Y'all would never know that I went. No, I wouldn't tell y'all. What if he had to do his exact set list where he does the speeches, like, the speeches, like in between for each city? And, like, he had to do his speech to you as well about him coming up in New York.

Brooklyn's his second home. Yeah. Brooklyn? But like to you. You would clap after he finish his song. Yo, Rory would clap. Imagine if just you and Drake and he said make some noise. Yo.

The boy. Oh my God. I don't know how we got down this rabbit hole. But shout out to Kendrick Lamar for being named greatest rapper of his generation by the New York Times. I'm not sure how Kendrick feels about the New York Times naming him the greatest rapper of his generation. I'm sure it's, you know. They're going to be all right. I'm sure it's happy for him.

I'm sure he's happy about that. He's, you know, I don't know. I don't know if Kendrick. You think Kendrick cares about shit like that? Hell no. Not really. You know? Absolutely.

I don't think Kendra cares about it. I think the Pulter Prize meant a lot. But a journalist. You don't think Kendrick cares about accolades? Not the New York Times naming him the greatest rap of his generation. No, I don't think that. I think he probably likes that his new company and with his partner and friend forever that the New York Times is highlighting what they're doing. I think that's probably iller to him.

That for sure. But I do think Kendrick Lamar 100% wants to be. the best rapper of his generation. He is. I mean, he wants to be. I don't know if he, and I think, I feel like he feels like he is,

but I don't know if he cares that the New York Times says it or not, is what I'm saying. I don't, I don't think that that does anything for him. But shout out to Kendrick, shout out to Dave Free and everything that they're doing. I think they got some,

some shit coming, man. Like something, they're way too calculated, way too covert. They move way too under the radar, man. Well, that's why I think the only argument I could really make against Kendrick in that regard is his era and generation is the volume game with hip hop and he may not have as much as his peers so that that could be a debate yeah you know I get it it's New York times same night same city

two women hosting a party okay and I never ran the parties when women was hosting I thought that was weird but whatever well sometimes when you knew the women that they would bring out you'd be like oh that's probably we should probably go there because we know she brings out she's associated women she's the Drake of that because there's plenty of women that during that club hosting era where you would know it's just the creepy fellas that are gonna go link that party to go see her but you know some of the women that bring the other women out

India Love okay Amber Rose don't do that just ask her. Amber Rose is a generational talent that deserves a New York Times article in that world. Absolutely. She's the greatest video promoter.

Yeah, man. I mean, uh, club promoter? India love is like B-O-B compared to that. B-O-B. I didn't mean to give B-O-B-A-Strellab. That's crazy. I'm not going to apologize to India. I'm not going to let you do India like that.

You're kidding me? You apologize to B-O-B. In a club hosting era? Yeah, well, India love wasn't really. Amor Rose would be Kendrick. She would be the greatest of her generation. I agree. India Love wasn't really the club host. She was too young. Yeah. And I don't know if India brings them out. We know women love Amber Rose and Amber Rose loves women. So that's going to be a good environment. I don't know much about India. Okay. Got a better one for you. Like game might roll. I don't know. I'm going to see India love. It'll be you game in India. Yeah. In the arena watching Drake.

Got a better one for you since you want to talk about when that brings out the women. Tiana Taylor and Amber Rose. Oh. Oh, man. I don't think I would be invited. Same night, same thing. Tiana Taylor. I'm going to Tiana's party. Hell yeah. Same. Yeah, I'm going to Tiana's part.

I think Amber's going to Tia's party. Wait, what year, though? 2011, I don't know. Well, Tiana was very young back then. All right, and both their primes. Put them in their primes, yeah. I don't know. Tiana.

Yo, women love Tiana, bro. Tiana's going to have the cooler chicks. Amber's going to have the hose. So it depends. No, Tiana's going to have the hose. Don't get it twisted. Yeah, but they're going to want to just fuck Tiana. Yeah, though.

I'm not to say I would get any pussy here. Say, what you think? The women going to Amber's party going? Who do they want to fuck? Nah, I feel like Amber brings a lot of straight hose out too. Oh, yeah, no, Tiana does too. I'm aware that no one would want to fuck me at this party regardless. This is just a hypothetical.

Yeah, and I'll get it. You'll be at the Drake show anyway by yourself. Yeah. Drake concert by yourself or the Amber Rose or Tiana party. All in the same night. Remember that Doja Cat birthday party? Another photos from that. I would, yeah.

It looked like a classic night. Yeah, definitely one of those nights that we're going to hear about 20 years from now. I would have pretended to be the gay bestie to go to that one. You would have wore see-through shirt? Yeah, would have been in a no shirt. Oh, shit. I would have shaved my chest for that party. Your nipples get chafed through the gap.

You know, that's how you got to get into a doja party. See-through shirts only. Drama and Puscher are announcing, well, they've announced. That's a sick transition. Gotta love it. Drama and push. have announced the Gangster Grills project dropping. Do we have a

release date? Not officially yet. Well, they announced that they're dropping their mixtape in 2023. Drum told us about this. He gave us one about this, but we didn't know exactly when it was coming. I guess we still don't know the exact date. But this should be a really, really

dope project. That's going to be fire. I think a push to tea gangster grills is something that most rap fans would want to hear. I hope they take their time with this and clear. I want him to rap on other people's beats. I want it to be that type of mix tape, which I know it would take a while to clear for streaming. I would like to see that and I'm sure we'll get a lot of features that Push wouldn't typically do because he's an album artist. So I'm

excited for that too. I want to see Push rap with a lot of people that he's been waiting to rap with, wanting to rap with weird, weird collabs. Like I'm looking forward to push just being able to put something out without boundaries of a Farrell or Kanye or an album structure. Who would you like to see him rap with? I would like to see pushing for this gangster girls. Definitely him in two chains. I want to hit him in chains. I would like to hear him and Wayne.

Not going to happen. I mean, obviously. Would him and Tyler be a bad mix? They've never. They have records that go. They have records. I know. I would like to hear him and, him and Jid. I would like to hear him and Jid.

like to hear. Yes. Yeah. I would like to hear that. I think we'll get one of the bigger... I think like we would get a push of Cole out of this project rather than an album with either of them. I think we'll also get the bigger features as well that have been missing for a while. I think pushing coal will happen on this. Just to guess.

I mean, we've heard it before, but I definitely would want to hear him and Ross on the Gangster Grills. I'm with you. I want to hit Pushing and Roe. Ross. I feel like just a lot of the southern rappers I kind of want to hear him with. Push raps a lot with

like typical East Coast. Ross is a southern rapper. I mean, do we count Florida as the South? Miami. Florida. Florida's not the South and Miami's not even Florida. Florida's not the South? I think Roy's saying like sound-wise.

It's not, you don't think of. More Atlanta, Texas, Mississippi, like that type of shit. You know Atlanta and Florida's right next to each other, right? No, we're not saying geographic. we were saying sound-wise. I guess. The music from Atlanta is drastically different.

I think you get a push-Push Kodak out of this. Yeah. I think drama can make that happen. That's interesting. I like to see Push rap with some of the girls. Don't you, I think, would be dope. Don't you would be little. Who else?

Who is Push-n-knot collab with that I know he's been waiting to? Pushing Lotto? Push-a-lotto could be cool. Is there a Pushing GZ record? I think he Push and GZ Oh they did Amen

I don't even remember that record How long ago was that That was a while ago 2011 record Pushing I think he'd save I think would happen on an album Yeah that's an album That's an album that has to be an album

That has to be an album They also did no regrets Oh I remember I remember that record That's 10 years ago Yeah 10 years ago this is going to be a good project I think that they are going to take their time like you said Rory I know that uh drum has been

you know the whole gangster grills thing he's uh it's got a resurgence and I know that he's uh taking this um he's approaching it with a different type of care now that it is what is it's a legacy tape at this point

it's an honor for an artist or rappers to have a gangster grills and um you know I think that now with a drama being more of an executive and running the label and managing artists and things like that I think that his

attention to detail has just changed over the years I think his passion for it obviously is still the same I think that his ear to the streets is obviously still the same and what people want to hear and what gangster grills represents so somebody like pusha falls right in line with that

and I'm definitely looking forward to hearing this project Oh I want to hear push with Doug and them like that that era of music that he typically would you think he would go with the lyricist like real traditional lyricist mm-hmm and with doug would be great eST yeah that entire crew i'd like to hear push with and i push i feel like has not put out an album in a while that's less than what 13 12 songs mm-hmm make this shit and you know i hate long projects but with this make this shit fucking 18 songs yeah let push go even if one of them just a fucking freestyle this two minutes.

Yeah, you know it's going to be a couple of those on there. Yeah, a couple freestyles, two-minute freestyles. I don't want this to sound like an album at all. I want them to do a real gangster girls mixtape. Hopefully we get that release date soon, but definitely looking forward to this project. Some more list came out. Obama shared his annual music playlist. Which I was offended by.

Why? I put out three fucking smokers this year. Oh. And I know Obama was playing. I have my dad. I know where they live. Data. Unfortunately, you did not make Obama's favorite music of 2020 list, but there was some interesting, and we know Obama's not listening to this shit.

They just use his name to just put this up here. Well, I'm sure a few records he does throw in there. Well, they have to vet every artist too. That's why I think. Barack Obama is not playing Bad Bunny. You don't think he bangs Lizzo about damn time? No. I'm sure he does, actually.

I don't think he just has a really good relationship with Julian Kaiser. Well, yeah. I love that Xavier Omar's on here. And I love feelings for you. I'll tell you, whoever does curate this does a good job because it's believable. Yeah. No, it's not.

It's not believable. It is. You don't think Obama listens to some of this music? You don't think he listens to sunshine? Some of it, yeah. I think he listens to, I think he's heard Beyonce, break my soul, yes. I mean, he's heard it. All right.

I think he's heard last last by Burning Boy. Yes. He has two daughters. Exactly. I think that they just take their phones. Oh, well, I'm saying like, all right, this is what your daughters are listening to? This is what you're listening to. Obama's not listening to it. I think he obviously listened to the heart part five with Kendrick. You don't think he heard Sissa shirt and just was like, you know, I feel her. Went crazy on Michelle that night.

Oh, oh, why? I just feel like why didn't make this list is they have to vet every artist because Obama can't be seen listening to problematic people. And they vetted me, mainly us and, like, saw how problematic mall was and that he was a Republican. So they took all my records off. I think Obama wanted all three of my records off. Red hair, red company. This is big cap, because I know Obama listens to ESTG. How do you know that?

Because they can't say it. They can't say that Obama be banging ESTG. Yeah, that's what he listens to when he writes a book. Yeah, of course. He'd be in the gym shooting. You know Obama being in a gym. He's playing ESTG. Like, come on, man.

Absolutely. he like put the real on it if you're going to give me obama's list give me obama's list pass me his phone no he might be going crazy to burner boy though no he definitely listening to the burner boy for sure he's not listening to titi me pregunto no that was a good you said it right he's not listening to titi me pregunto and i mean now i think about it with his daughters like we've seen the tabloids of of the type of like frat guys they hang out with at their college they're not listening to any of the soulful shit. No. I mean, I've spent a night when I was out in L.A., I ran into Malie Obama. Of course you do. I ran into, shut the fuck. Of course you did.

You know, I ran into you guys a different trip. Of course. You ran it to Obama's daughter? Yeah. How do you run into Obama's daughter? She just saw her. It's a popular spot that people go to and she was having a good time. And he was hanging all over the white boys. Yeah. Yeah. And you just started to tell my music? We did a shot together. Of course you did. Allegedly. Not talk about music. What was playing? me, I believe at the bar, like, yo. We talked music for hours. She never mentioned you.

She never mentioned you. Yo, what was playing? In the spot? At the bar. It was just like, probably some Burnaboy, actually. See? All right, yeah. So that's why I believe that.

I believe, I believe. So technically, you put Obama on to Burnaboy, if you think about it. Wow. I ain't even thinking about it. And I was at Atlantic at the time. There you go. I want my plaque. Oh, so it was you.

My plaque. Oh, okay. It was you the whole time. Who knew, Julian? Thank you, ma. But, yeah, this is another list. Obama's favorite music of 2022. There's some really good songs and I love

the fact that Philings for you, Xavier Omar was on there. Yeah. Steve Lacey. Dangerous, Black Thought, M.F. Doom. Yeah. M.F. Doom. That was dope. It's just dope to see some of these artists and these records on here. Even if Obama isn't listening, the fact that they're putting these names on this list

is dope to me. Yeah. It's weird that Hitler wears Hermes 10 was not any songs from that album. I don't know Obama. I'm mad that it wasn't. I'm so fucking steamed that it wasn't. So yeah, man. I don't know.

We watched Julian text me last night. He was watching the Knit game. And I was so happy to talk shit about the Knicks. They were on a seven game win streak. Eight game, seven game road win streak. Yeah. Is Luca better than Michael Jordan? Yo.

Why are you starting him like this? Has Michael ever done 60, 21? I am not. I am never arguing that ever again. I don't care who tries to bait me. 2023 Rory That's it I'm done

I'm done to baiting Michael Jordan Being the greatest ever It's over Let's bury it That Luke game Last night Versus the Knicks

Was embarrassing Really embarrassing Super embarrassing Of course it was against the Knicks And it was at Mads Arena too You want to break a record

Play the Knickerbockers And the Knicks The crazy part about this game At this point now I'm just baiting them Yeah The crazy part about this game It was a really good game

It was The Knicks played well. It blew a nine point lead with 33 seconds left. Yeah, it just was... Look at his numbers. That, that...

No, he went nuts. 60 points. 33 seconds. A 9. 21 rebounds. 10 assists. 10 assists. 60 points.

The most impressive stat to me on this entire crazy fucking night that he had was the fact that he only had four turnovers. But he shot 68% from the field. This is video game, like my career. Yeah.

100%. On rookie mode. Bro, shooting 68% from the field and scoring 60 is fucking insane. 21 rebounds is insane. 21.

Like, that was, that was, this is a bad loss for the Knicks. Michael could never. Because Mike played the Knicks before and he never did this.

You played him a few times. Yeah. The only hour with just 50 in the guard. Okay, well, Luca did 60. That's just one night. I was at home too.

Yes. Yeah, imagine what he does at the garden. Luca's going for 80. Yo, this was, that's a bad loss for the Knicks. That's a bad, bad loss for the Knicks. They lost three games in a row. They should have won. Now they're on the three-game loser streak.

They had a seven-game road winning streak, which I think at the time was the longest in the NBA this season. Was it a bad loss for the Knicks or a great game for Luca? Both. Both can be true. It was a great game for Luca. Definitely a game that will go. down is probably his

greatest game of his career. Bullshit-ass game. This far. I don't see how he ever beat 60, 21, and 10, but whatever, he might have 50, 30 and 30 the next time he sees the fucking next.

I was going to say, who they playing tonight? But yeah, that's a bad loss for the Knicks. The Knicks look good. They still look good, though. That was a bad loss. Again, it's just one games, one loss.

Go get the next one. But the Knicks look good. I like the way the Knicks are playing. I know they hurt right now. Jalen Brunson is out. Yeah. R.J. Barrett is out. When is Brunson back?

He should be back in a few games. But I do like to see the Knicks playing well, and hopefully they do make the playoffs because it's a different feel when the Knicks are in the playoffs. Shout out to the Nets. The Nets look good. They're on the Winstreet right now as well. Shout out to Katie.

Shout out to Kyrie. So, yeah, New York basketball looks promising this season, Rory. It looks like the Nicks and the Nets will make the playoffs. Nets nine in a row. Nog game went the street for the Nets. And then after that, I mean, shoot, look at that. 11, 12, 13 of their last, they're 13 and 1.

Yeah. The Red Storm just had a heartbreaker to see Nall. Just said with New York basketball. It's trying to at the Prudential Center. The Red Storm just had a heartbreaker to see Null. They did. I haven't watched St. John's basketball, and I don't know how long, bro. I have not seen the St. John's game in years.

It's sad how bad New York college teams are. St. John should be good, though. No one cares. There's so many things to do in New York. No one's going to a college basketball game. But I remember a time, bro. I remember a time with St. John's team to go see. Hell yeah.

Like, you would go to the garden to see St. John's play. Yeah. That's where they played every game. Yeah. Like, now it's just like, I don't even know who's on their team anymore. Like, it's just bad. They'll turn it around. Yeah.

Go get them next year, right? Yeah, man. So, 2023, Rory. Hunter College. Maybe. All right. Hunter College.

You just naming every college in Manhattan right now. They just need to change the culture there and change the culture. That's always the go to, change the culture. Yeah. You know,

focus on the back court. Yeah. Hunter will be back in. Dion. So, yeah, 2023 fellas. Oh, yeah, it's 2023 right now. It's our first part of the year.

Yeah. Oh, it's still. part of the year. We recorded this. Actually, you're in a time warp. Yes. Because this is last year. But dated.

The new year. But Chinese New Year was the other day. But it's already 20, 23 in Australia. Emily and Paris is back. Let's come on, Ma. Let's talk about it. How are you feeling? I have one more episode.

One more left. I have three more episodes left. Nice. I'm on episode seven. I have three episodes left. I'm sorry. We're being pansies right now, really. How are you feeling?

Yeah, how are you feeling? So you're a few behind, but you can see where they're going with it. With her and what's the chef, the homeboy's name? The homeboy of the chef? Pierre. It's not Pierre. Camille's boyfriend. I don't know his name, but you know what I'm talking about.

So obviously the thing with him and Emily, and I don't want to spoil anything for you. But then there's also the love, like Camille and the Greece girl. Yeah, the lesbian relationship Kind of fizzle that out They try to make that like a pump fig Is she gonna go thing? They don't drag that on Yeah

Yeah I just feel like my man The black dude's gonna get played Alfie Yeah, it's over for him Yeah, I think he's gonna be the one That's looking into the camera all teary eye

When it's all set and done Yeah, he didn't deserve that Everybody like a few of my friends That seen the whole seat He didn't deserve that A few of my friends That finished it They text me and ask me if I finish it

I said not yet and they're like, okay, let me know what you think of the ending. So I'm already knowing it's going to be some bullshit. I'm probably going to watch the finale. The last one tonight. My parents watched it already, so they want to talk about it too. Yeah, I'm going to finish it. I'll definitely finish it tonight.

So next episode we could definitely watch it. I mean, talk about it. Eddie, you should watch. Eddie, you don't watch Emily Paris? No. I bet you watch Bad Bunny. If it was in Spanish, you know. If Emily was in Mexico, I'd be lit right now.

If it was Diti and fucking... In Mexico. Yeah. Diti on Nagel Avenue You would watch her Yeah On Madison Go watch that right now

Yeah Just gotta go out there Shout to Bad Bunny I saw he performed In Puerto Rico at the gas station Well fuck ahead I mean With gas prices

I need a bad bunny performance Every time I fill up my fucking tank Bad Bunny is one of my favorite He's one of my favorite artists bro I fuck with Bad Bunny Bad Bunny? He's not one of your favorite artists He is

Bad Bunny is not one of your favorite artists That Bunny is not one of your favorite artists Mine just is There's no way bad Bunny Of 2020 you mean? Listen to Period right now You can say he's one of your favorite entertainers

You're not listening to Bad Bunny I listen to Bad Bunny I told Ed and after we left Made in America I was like no he did fuck with it after me We saw your Your Spotify Apple Music wrap-up list Bad Bunny wasn't even in the top 50 First of all you can't see your top 50

I'm just guessing I wasn't I wasn't No I fuck with Bad Bunny I'm not saying you don't I'm not saying you don't He is one of my favorite artists No way is one of your favorite artists Yes he is

What do you mean Because I don't wear his merch You think he's not one of my favorite artists? What's wrong with that? All right, what's the list of how many people it has to be to be in one of your favorite artists? Top five? No, I'm just, no.

No, what I'm saying, when I say, 10. When I say Bad Bunny is one of my favorite artists, I mean, like, I, obviously I don't speak Spanish that way. I don't know what he's saying. That's fine. The energy, I love what he's doing for his, for Puerto Rico. When he, when he had the whole shit where he drove through New York City and had, I thought that was, to me, that's, to me, that's when I like, I like that kid

right there. I love what Bono has done for World's Hunger, but I don't like, and for Apple You two's not like my fave. It's different. You're not comparing you to a bad bunny. That's a writer. Bad Bunny is different. He's a different dude.

I fuck with this dude. I really like to do it. I fuck with Bad Bunny too. I would just never say he's one of my favorite artists. When I say favorite artists, meaning if he has another show in New York, I'm going to to it. Yeah. For multiple reasons, though.

Okay. What's the other reason? She's there. Who's she? Her. And the show. Well, yeah, the women are definitely going to be there. But the show was crazy.

I'm sure that I would love to go to a bad bunny concert, even though I don't listen to his music like that because he's a great entertainer and the show would be great. You guys seen him in Bullet Train. Definitely not one of my favorite artists. Definitely one of my favorite artists. Yeah, that was a good movie. He was in this movie. He was with Brad? Did a good job. Oh, I saw this trailer. Yeah, the trailer. This movie's funny as fuck. His character was funny.

Oh, all right. Shout out to him, man. Shout out to his team. That face. Yeah, man. So what you got playing for 2023, Rory? Yeah, what you got playing for 2020? This is my year. Yeah. New Year, new me. Yuck. I love when people say, yo, I'm not going into the New Year with the same people from last year. I'm cutting all you fake one.

You're the fake one in that situation. You're getting cut. You have to cut people off every year. It's something about you. You're the common denominator. I feel like Eddn's probably the only person I don't want to go into the new year with. Too late, baby.

I'm right here. Well, this is recorded before them. But I feel like to see this dude in 2020. That's the only person I'm like, I need to leave him in 2020. You haven't created the technology where you can record this from like your home where we can't, don't have to see your face.

No, it's not invented yet. You should create that technology. I feel like that exists. They can control planes or not planes. Fucking rocket ships. How about you? You're comparing video production to drones. How about you record us from drones?

Like fly your drone from your house all the way here, record us. And then once we're finished, fly your drones back to your house. If it's on your budget. I think that, yeah, I think we can do that. I think we can make that happen for you. Yeah. Right? Yeah.

Cool. 2023, Eddn will be the first guy to record a podcast via drone. be a drone from his bedroom Listen, I'm trying to listen So the video just be the top of my house? Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's it. No, we're going to record it.

Audio's going to be nuts. Gotcha. So yeah, man. Or it'll be like the heat seeker thing where like, you know, the military has you could see the people in the house. Oh, like the thermal maps? Yeah, it would just be us on thermal.

We have things we could throw that off and kind of like trick the system. Let's talk about that off, Mike. Yeah. Good transition from Barack Obama's favorite music. Yeah. The drone king. Yeah.

He is the drone king. He's the drone king. drone king. What were they wearing? He went nuts. Obama went nuts with his drone. Like drones hit and we all were like, oh, let's get drones. Obama went crazy.

Listen, man. 2023, happy new year. Like, you know when you use your MacBook too much and the button starts to get sticky and shit and like they don't hit, like, you know Obama's drone button at one point. This is what crazy. They had to take a wet wipe like, all right, bro. This button is getting hot sauce on the button. Got stuck.

That's racist. Yeah. Why got to be Hillary's hot sauce? It was Hillary's hot sauce. She keeps that in her back, swag. God, that was crazy. That's racist. That was an insane.

That was in the same moment. Whatever assistant or associate on her team suggested to do that. Charlemagne. It's insane. Charlemy double down. Hot sauce on Hot sauce on her bag. She had hot sauce in her bag. He's like, no, no.

Swag. It's not swag. It was the dumbest shit ever. Unopened. The fuck was that about. Call us niggers without calling us niggers. Whoa, I mean. That's literally what that is.

That's what that was. Are you kidding me? Anyway, happy 2023 to everybody. Shout out to everybody that's listening, everybody that's watching. We appreciate y'all. We salute y'all.

Thank you for fucking with us. 2023. We got some, well, according to Benner, he took a lot of meetings. A lot of things. It's our year. Hey, listen, it could be your year. Or also, it may not,

because all of us have had shitty years. And maybe it's your turn. Yeah. There you go. So, like, I know I want to bring positivity. Shout I'll tell everybody that's going to have a shitty 2023. We do need to be realistic. Keep fighting. Self-awareness is important.

Sometimes going into the new year we have to think, this might be one of those years for me. This might be a fucked up year for me. Hopefully it's not, but most likely it is. But either way, we'll be back to kick it with y'all in a few days. Until then be safe. God bless. I'm that nigger.

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