New Rory & MAL - Episode 144 | CONSPIRA-POD

Episode Date: February 21, 2023

Put your tin foil hats on. We have more of our team’s 23andMe results! Eddin’s results are shocking and Julian shares his dad’s results. Rory shares his racist family map, while Mal is related to English royalty somehow. Then we discuss how different reactions are to violent tragedies from the past. This leads to a prison TikTok conversation and somehow ends with Beyonce. Should we get into our conspiracy bag? Why not. We discuss alien technology, historical events, Mars, transgender ET, and zombies. Speaking of Zombies, ‘I Am Legend 2’ is in the works. Tune in as the guys discuss all of the above + more  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoicesSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Available now on our Patreon.com. Yes. Yeah. BTS behind the scenes. Yeah. How you feeling, man? See, under the layers. I really get to see Roy's full kitchen.

Yeah. You know. Good to see the layout. Good to lay. It's not a bad kitchen. Not at all. It's a good kitchen, actually. Not by any stretch of the imagination.

Bad mac and cheese is made in there, but other than that, you know, it exists. Bad mac and cheese. We make macaroni and cheese. Y'all make macaroni and cheese. You make macaroni and cheese. No, white people make mac and cheese. Black people make macaroni and cheese. What's wrong with her?

No. I'm the only person in this room that can make macaroni and cheese, and I'm telling you. No, you're not. Just made Valvita. My bad. I'm sorry. I just did the shells with the velvita. White people make macaroni and cheese.

No, white people make mac and cheese. That shit that's not baked is mac and cheese. Or that's baked mac and cheese. No, that's baked mac and cheese. Yeah. Okay. It's baked mac and cheese. Macaroni and cheese sounds whiter to me.

You walk into a soft food restaurant. It says macaroni and cheese. What are you talking about? So you're proving your point. No, I want macaroni and cheese. White people make macaroni and cheese. Right. Oh, no, no, no.

My name. I'm on your side. I got confused. Kraft is mac and cheese. Craft is not macaroni and cheese. We're not. But that's white people's favorite. That's what white people

mac and cheese taste like. We will never talk about craft ever again. Okay. That is the nastiest shit ever created. As the only one in here with the white mother, she said macaroni and cheese. Absolutely. That's white.

100% said macaroni and cheese. I'm going to roll with more on this one. Black and cheese is Mac and cheese. Mac. No, we got it. Return of the Mac. You never seen that movie? Isn't the whole jingled craft,

macaroni and cheese? There you go. See? Look. Macaronian cheese. Yeah, it's pretty white. What does Martha call it? Oh, Martha's black.

Martha makes macaroni and cheese, though. She makes- Martha is not black. She plays in the sheets. She is black. She did time in jail. She got a felony on her record and she never snitched. That's black.

She's black. No, that's ghetto. Black-and-a-gun-black. Huh? Huh? I didn't hear her. I didn't hear what you said. And then just go back.

Speaking of who's black, Eddn, and I heard that you got your 23-M-me results back. Yes, I did. So you could stop saying nigger to me. I would like to see what your results say. I told you that in confidence. Yeah, Hardy are. Yeah.

I got mine back and it says that I use the hardy-ar. I'm sorry, you're 46.7% European? You're white. My last name is Martinez. What did y'all expect? We have the same European. You are a white man. Are you 46% European?

Yeah, but like with other Europeans. Your last name is really Martin, not Martinez. You're Eddie Martin. Your name's Edward Martin. Edward Martin. I'm trying not to laugh, Eddon. I really am. You should.

I'm interested in knowing what you are. Okay, so it says Ed is just an Italian guy. Hey. So when I call you Spanish, you're actually Spanish. You're 39.5% Spanish. Y'all have to understand. He's a Spaniard. He's not Spanish.

He's a Spaniard. So you, your ancestors were the conquerors, the conquistadors. You do the fucking. Y'all not even reading the whole thing. I'm looking at it. We're reading 46.7% European. Spanish and Portuguese, 39.5%. Keep on.

40.9% southern European. Asiatic, Jewish. The slides to sub-Saharan African 16.7% Western Asian and North African 1.3%. And then we have Indigenous American 30.9% Yeah,

a little bit of Irish in you? Yeah, a little bit of Irish in me. 1.7. There we go. Yeah, so that 30.9 Indigenous American was raped by the 40.9 Southern European. 40.67%. Okay, yeah. So, yeah.

I don't feel bad. He has some Unassigned Mexican. Where do you see the unassigned? It says unassigned Mexican. No, that's just unassigned. And then my recent ancestry is Mexico. Below it is Mexico.

Unassigned. It's funny. The percentage that was unassigned, so we assume he's Mexican. I'm almost sure. Even his bloodlines are undocumented. I'm almost positive. I'm literally reading verbatim what it says. I didn't say that.

No. It's an assign. It's undersigned. It's under sign. And what is right below it? It says your recent ancestry in the American. In Mexico. is Mexican.

No, it's Mexico and San Francisco. and Central America. It says Mexico. Where is Mexico? Nicaragua, San Salvador, Department, El Salvador, plus 33 regions. So, Eddian, you are...

Mainly European. Mainly European. You're white. Did you know that, though? I guess you do it. Yeah, look at my last name. It's Martinez. Yeah.

Yeah. What do you mean? But, you know, some people think that Martinez is like Puerto Rican. No, I don't... You know Puerto Ricans that are named Martinez? Yeah.

Oh, damn, I don't. Almost everybody I know named Martinez is Puerto Rican. I'm really not sure. I'm a stereotypical joke, but I know a lot of Puerto Ricans with Martinez. Damn, I really don't see that. Like ever.

I say that a lot. I'm thinking about doing the 23 me. Why not? Why not? What do you do you see? I'm going to be honest. I don't believe any of this. I think this is all bullshit.

Well, mine was not specific. My mother did it and they literally circled the globe. Like, she was like, you're from Earth. It was a complete wild breakdown. Then mine was 97% Irish, 3% Jewish. So, yeah, I don't know if this is true at all. No, I think this is just some... Do we ever look into who owns 23 Me?

I mean, we know. George Soros. I mean, George Soros. We know who owns it. We know who owns it. The Askenazis. It's not George Soros. No, 1.8% right here.

The Askenazis. Well, no, this might be the biggest racket moving, because on top of just the face value of it is expensive. It's what? And like 200 and change, yeah. With taxes? is almost $200. Yeah.

Then they give you these results back. And now they literally own, not just your data, they own your DNA. And that can be sold. So they're not only making money off the $200 face value. They're then selling our DNA. Yeah, which is your data, basically. So this should be next to Adidas in that billionaire thing. They just leave 23 of me over here.

Yeah, that's the only reason why I just can't get with this because I just don't believe it. I think that they just send you, because they ask you. a bunch of, you have to fill out a questionnaire, right? So the questionnaire was more like health related than it really was like region related. So I can believe into some sense, but also like my name. They do ask me if I'm a Hispanic, like shit like that. They don't, they don't ask much in the questionnaire at all to be quick. Okay.

All right. You can, well, no, you can pay more and then. They'll tell you more. Yeah, they'll tell you more. What's crazy is? That's sick. You know, if you think health insurance is a scam in the United States, with 23 and me, they have a whole separate fee if you want to learn about your health.

Yeah. Like, I think it's like 23ME plus. Yeah, like if I want to know, if I want to know, it's like Disney Plus. What's fucked up is a lot of it is based off of other people that do 23 and me. So if my great grandfather who maybe had cancer wasn't involved in the 23 of me, I don't know how much info they can really give me. Exactly. And for 200 bucks, if you can take my spit in a tube and tell me if cancer is in my family, why didn't you do that to me when I was a child?

Right. No, you got to pay for it. Yeah, you got to pay for it. Plus. But I've had health insurance and they still never said, hey, we have this technology. where you can spin it to and we can tell you all your hereditary diseases.

Go to 23Me.com. I hope that you got some answers that you would look for. I got no answers. You got no answers. Do you have the map of like the world that shows you your relatives? It gave me like four little blips

and like they said unidentified or something like that. Oh, I have my map up here. I don't know if we can put it up on the screen, but I have a heavy family population in New Orleans. I don't know one family member. Oh, slave owners. For sure.

What? I know where you come from. No. Yeah. They would never. Listen, I'm watching your honor right now. We were the good white people. You look like some of those people down there in New Orleans.

Got to tell you. Oh, you think I'm Creole? Yeah, absolutely. Thanks, man. Bro, I don't think you're so hype. I don't think you're Creole at all. But I did click on some of my family members in the South, speaking of which. How do we feel about, this is a common name so we can use this one.

How do we feel about Robert Bailey down in Georgia, my fourth cousin? This is your fourth cousin right here? Yeah. Well, give him the best description because we shouldn't show the photo. Racism. Sun-down town. I wasn't going to say. Sound town gas station owner.

Let's not do that. Robert might be a great guy. Okay. That's true. Yeah. Sometimes you're white. He has one of those faces where I, if my car broke down in the middle of nowhere and he showed up, I would be scared.

Yeah. But he also, to me, his face looks like he feels like America's being taken away from him currently. He wants to make it great again. It is, though. Runs in the bloodline. Yeah. The Ashkenazis. How do we feel about Liam Cook?

This is your cousin? This is my fourth cousin in Columbia, South Carolina. Oh, man. Yeah. That face right there looks very familiar. I'm going to say he has the goatee going on right here with patches. Okay. That has a full head of hair.

Yeah. He looks like one of the American. that want to be part of the Taliban. He's a bad night out from bringing a gun to school. He has blonde eyebrows, so I just assume right now he's the moderator on the Q&On Reddit page. That's just what the vibes this is giving about. He's one woman turning him down away from shooting up the whole campus. He has that place for sure.

Like one more girl tells him no. Listen, man. CNN. Mind you, all these people, I'm third great grandparents related, all these fourth cousins. My third great grandparents were going nuts. Like, did they start America? Pipe it up. Oh, this is all just my third great-grandparents,

sperm and eggs. Nice. Hawaii. Oh, you're pretty much a little bit everywhere. Belgium? Is that Belgium? No, I think that's just London. It's London, just, you know, we weren't zoomed in all the way.

Okay, London. Yeah. Okay. So you're just he'll have linked Bridgett when we were out in London. Is that your fourth cousin? That's my fourth cousin. You'd beat? She looks about 70 years old.

You'd beat? So the answer is yes. Absolutely. Can't wait to take her out. Yeah, I don't know, man. I'm just not, has anybody, have you done a 23 million? So the ones up now on the screen are my dad's results. He overheard us on the pod when Mark asked about what he, when Mark goes, what are you?

And this is, this is my dad's breakdown. I personally haven't done it. I know my mom's. This is my dad's numbers. Oh, so 27% Nigeria, 20% Senegal, 19% Molly, 15% percent Portugal, England and northwestern Europe, 4 percent, Camero, Congo, and Western Bantu peoples, 4 percent. Benin and Togo, 3 percent, Spain, 2 percent Ireland.

Hey. Two percent. Welcome to the tribe. Wales, 2 percent. Northern Africa, one percent. Turkey and the Caucasus. Caucasus. All right, so you're one percent.

That sounds a real Caucasian. Yeah. Okay. I feel like Julian, this is just his letter to Reddit to prove that he's black. Yeah, I don't think Julian's black. So if we add up all the African countries, it's like 60 percent, right? Yeah. Of your dad's is about 60% right.

So you're 30% black. 66%. That's true because you're like half of them. Cameroons. 60%? Oh, so that's 70% or 70%? Okay. My dad's, yeah, about 70% like African black.

Yeah. 71% Northern Africa. Okay. Well, some DNA is stronger. So you're half black? True. So you're a quarter black. There you go.

I'm black. He's a black man. He just doesn't date black. It's confirmed. He doesn't vote black either. He doesn't vote. Who don't vote black? I voted for my brother.

I do vote black. Trump is from Queens. He is. He's from Jamaica States. Give some queens. Him and 50 are from the same zip code. You can't tell me I don't vote black. Maul, what do you think your background would be?

I'm not sure. My sister did something years ago and it said I was related to some king from England. Of course you were years ago. Of course you fucking were. Small second cousin's Prince Harry. Sir Biggs of Harlem. Yeah. Once my sister said that I just stopped listening, I was like, man, whatever, man.

I'm from the Bronx. No, no, St. Nicholas is an avenue. It wasn't a king. Yeah. Wow. She said it was some king of England somewhere. I don't know, man. Listen, man, we all come from somewhere other than the Americas.

Well, some of us coming from the Americas. Some of us, some of us. We had a... I did read something, and I'm going to completely butcher this. We should have done more research, especially with a sensitive topic. this. And I'm not defending Christopher Columbus or the fact that we use the word Indian for Native Americans. But to some degree, Indian is okay to say about Native Americans because Indians did migrate to start the Americas well before then. They came from India to start. So Native Americans are

derived from India. You say all that to say what? You want to say Indian? You want to bring back the Indians? I just feel like the country's being taken from us. That's all I was trying to say. Are you saying you want the Cleveland Indians to call themselves to Cleveland Indian again? That's all I wanted to come back. Yeah. What the Redskins are back? The Redskins like, come on, man. Cleveland Indians, you want that?

You ever had Red Curry? You ever had Red Curry? That's nothing to do with. Yeah. India, Native American. I was trying to see where he was making the correlation to, but it's okay. I have to just stay off those Reddit pages. I read something about a guy that was, first of all.

That was inaccurate, I bet. Before we get to that, we know we we don't talk about a lot of things that happened years ago that just absolutely would be crazy if it happened today because so much has changed so many things that we uh we experienced years ago just not even a long time maybe 10 15 years ago absolutely could not happen today and um i was thinking about the uh the dc sniper Okay. Was that the black one? Yes. The D.C. sniper in D.C. Montgomery County, Maryland. They didn't close any, like, they didn't stop work.

They didn't close schools. No. Gas prices didn't go down. Did we? That's where everyone was getting killed and gas prices stayed the same. Like, do you know how crazy that? Now if there's an explosion 10,000 miles away, we're up to $6. But think about that.

There's a sniper running around. All we're looking for is a white van. I believe at the time it was like a white van. It was a white van, yeah. And it turns out that it wasn't a white van. It was like he was in the trunk of his car. And they didn't think to close like work or schools. Like people just out with a sniper running around and we don't know where.

Well, yeah, he did shoot at schools as well. It wasn't gas stations. If you look back at the, because I watched the whole doc as a recent they put one out. I forgot. They were shooting at schools. Like it wasn't just gas stations. Well, they were shooting at schools because schools weren't closed. Like this is what I'm.

That's where the people were. Yeah, like, this is my point. Why didn't they think to close the schools to, you know, stop people from going to work? I just don't understand, like, today, if a sniper was on the loose, they would shut everything down. This is where I'm going to give you some pushback because they actually have had snipers in schools and the cops won't even go in. Well, that's a whole different thing. But no, come on. We should fund the police.

We should fund the police. We should give the teacher snipers, really, is what we should do. Because the cops are too scared to go in. We need more police at schools that are scared to go in when there's a shooter. And we're paying for them to be there to be scared to go into the school. It's crazy. I just thought that that was crazy that, you know, you read up on some of these things and realize they never close schools. They never close work.

And you made a funny joke about the situation about it. Thanks, small. I was going to set it up a little differently, but go ahead. Oh, I'm sorry. No, I thought it was funny. I mean, I wasn't going to leave with a joke. But no one's ever talked about if this did happen in New Jersey. where you can't pump your own gas,

what that occupation would be during that time. How much would you guys take to pump gas in New Jersey if the sniper? Let's say the Jersey City sniper was going crazy. There's not but four gas stations in Jersey City. And you have to pump gas. What's the price? What are you taking?

You might have to give me a little $50 or something, man. An hour? Yeah. For sure. An hour? For sure. $50 an hour to know that there's a sniper in one of four of these gas stations. And remember, no one,

one tips the gas station attendance in New Jersey. You don't make tips. You don't? No. You think I tip the person pumping the gas? I tip them. Yeah, you should. I tip them.

Damn. Nobody that lives in New Jersey tips them. That's fucked up. Speak for yourself, Corey. That's fucked up. Gas prices is $5. I'm tipping. Yeah.

I mean, it's a person. He's not charging you. It's not his gas. You're not stepping out of the coal. The fuck does that? No, but I've got a gas. I've tipped the gas. My mom tips.

I think it's people. People that just don't live in New Jersey think you have to tip them. No, you don't have to tip them. You don't expect to. You should tip them. Especially when it's freezing cold out. Like, if it's freezing outside. I'll get out of my car.

But you, yes, you can get out of your car, but you should still tip the person. I'm ordering takeout. Do you tip at takeout? Yes, you're supposed to tip at takeout. Well, if you don't tip for delivery? No, delivery I do. You're supposed to tip for food. No, no.

And I go and pick food up. I'm not tipping anyone. I'm with Rory. You're supposed to tip for takeout. Fuck that. I don't tip for takeout. What am I tipping for takeout? Yeah, what am I tipping?

As the person who used to be a server in the room, I'm here to tell you. You're not serving anyone. You're getting it yourself. Are you? Do you go in the kitchen and you pack all your... You order it? I'm driving to the restaurant to pick it up. Do you go in the kitchen and pack up everything you need?

Do you pack up your food? Do you pack up your condiments? Do you make sure that you have everything that you need? All of that shit. Sure. You guys always forget the condiments. I don't need yet. We have to make...

Even when you leave a no room. I never have a pork. Your salads have to be made. Your food has to be boxed up and put. I have to put all of your shit in. No, that's not what you're paying for. That goes into the cost of food. Because I make the same whether you come and pick up food or not.

So I'm giving 10%. Yes, I don't say tip 20%, but you should give your takeout people something, for sure. If they deliver it to me. Even if you throw them a little $2, $3, you're supposed to tip your takeout people. It's just always good to tip people that are serving. I know. I'm a tipper. Clearly not.

Clearly not. You guys have all been out with me. A lot of people don't know. When we go to restaurants, I tip over 20%. I don't know. I don't know that. Yeah. I would hope so.

My gas is to go. I'm not tipping for my gas. No, you don't get to stay there. You got to stay there. If it's like five, you'll fill it up and I'm going to just park right here. If it's five degrees outside, right? I'll go,

I'll get out the car. All right. You can't do that though in Jersey. Why I'm tipping a restaurant waiter, waitress. Because I'm there for the ambiance. I'm paying for your service. Of course I'm tipping. When you're at the restaurant, of course.

It's not like I'm sitting in a restaurant like, oh, well, I'm not going to tip because I would go to the kitchen and get the food. don't want to do that. Imagine. At a gas station, I will happily get out of this fucking car and pump my gas. But in New Jersey, they don't allow you to. So now you're just taxing me. Yeah.

Off that shit. I'm forced to pay more because you have a law. Jersey should be tipping them. Yeah, but that's not going to happen. Talk to Chris Christie if he still is the governor. I just think it's always just, I mean, even if it's like $2. Yeah, like a buck.

It don't have to be a big amount. Yeah, it don't have to be $5, $10, $20. So with that information, are you taking that gig with the Jersey City sniper? No. I give, throwing my gloves in my hat and my pump. I'm not working at no, no gas station. Can you imagine though, like the gun nuts now that any time that there's like a protest, they all show up with their AR-15s, if there was, if the DC sniper happened now,

everyone would travel from Montana specifically to guard all the gas stations with AR-15s, which is also hilarious because bringing firearms around gas is just but that was a scary. Just imagine a shootout in front of a gas station. That was a scary time though. Like thinking about it like in that moment not knowing where this guy was and it was like yo people are getting killed. That was just I remember that. Like that was a really scary time. Yeah, I think it was really the Black duty. I think he was set up. No, I think it was. It was them. It was, it was them. What makes you think he was set up? Oh, I was just asked. I mean, it was. I've seen that theory. It was just them.

No, it was definitely, it was definitely them. That dude was sick, like a different type of sick. And he had military training and he, you know. He adopted that kid. He sexually assaulted that kid. Yeah. I'm not saying that maybe this kid should get out of jail now. I know he's appealed because he was definitely taking advantage of.

But the main guy didn't kill anyone. He forced this young kid to do it all. And how old was the kid? 17. I don't think he was 18. Wow. Wow. Wow.

He definitely wasn't above 18. Yeah. Ten people were killed, three injured. Crazy times, man. Crazy, crazy times. October 2002. Wow. Wow.

Was that long ago? 20 years, yeah. Yeah, right after 9-11 as well. Damn, he kind of went. It was wild. That was like, thinking back, that was like a really, really, damn, y'all were really young. I was 12, yeah.

You were like, how old? I was eight. 20. Wow. Yeah, 20. So where were you during? Yeah, were in D.C.? Convenient.

Conveniently in New York, huh? I was uptown, yeah. I was nowhere near D.C. But you got to think, like, even Army vets. Like, what a good gig to come home to, to protect gas stations and pump gas. That's a terrible gig to come home to. That's terrible.

You could have a... Go fight war and then go protect the gas station. You have a shooter, a spotter, and then a pumper. Yeah, no. At every gas station. Crazy times. I just thought it was wild that reading back on this and it was literally no schools were closed,

Nothing was closed. Everything was open, business as usual, and it was a sniper running around. Well, schools were closed for one day after 9-11. Really? Yes. Oh, shh. I never knew. We were back in school on Thursday. Capitalism must prevail, baby. I never knew that.

Damn. School was closed Wednesday. Thursday, everyone was back in school. Yep. Yeah, crazy, right? Like one mile away from ground zero. Not even. Yo, the rubble. Shit was still out there, bro. People were still finding people.

There were bodies still down there. Talking about go to school. Point three miles away from... And we're talking about this Ohio shit with all the fumes and all the gas that's coming from it that fuck people up. They said the same thing about 9-11. Oh, just go back.

Construction workers, clearing all that mess up. It's fine. Radiation, you'll be right. They all got cancer now. They're suing for that. John Stewart's leaning that class action lawsuit. I think they passed it through to make sure they have free health insurance

for anyone affected. that was part of that 9-11 cleanup. But they had kids not too far away from it either. People were still being taken out of the rubble. And schools are open. I never thought about that. Because, I mean, I wasn't in school at the time. So, you know what I didn't even think about that?

Yeah. Wow. Yeah, you thought the D.C. sniper was going to stop it? Yeah. It's just crazy. I mean, now they closed schools for anything at this point. Every time I spend it, like, my nephew, he doesn't have school today? What's today?

It's a random Wednesday. all day, closed it because parent, teacher, heavy wins. Heavy wins. Heavy wins? What? Schools were open after 9-11 and his school was closed for heavy wins. Holy shit.

Whatever, man. Ohio man won a $1.3 million settlement after 21 years in prison for a crime that nobody committed. Ralph Blaine Smith spent his time in prison studying law to prove his own innocence. So I did the math. Well, this is absolutely crazy. This man served 21 years.

He was sentenced to 67 years for, was it a home invasion, a home robbery that nobody committed. He was wrongfully in prison for 21 years, and they gave him a $1.3 million settlement. Now, I did the math on this. Okay, go ahead. $1.3 million divided by $21,000 is $61,000, a little over $61,000. Oh, you did that in your head? So that means they gave him. He sold drugs.

They gave him $5,000 a month for every year. or every month that he spent in prison. $5,000 is what they awarded. Before taxes. A month. Before taxes. Of government money. So that's like $1,500 a month.

This is, he was sentenced to 67 years in prison for a crime that wasn't even committed by anyone. What's the backstory on the crime? Did someone just say, hey, someone broke in my house and they gave this guy's 67 years? Well, it says when first responders showed up, there were no footprints in the snow. It had recently snowed. There was a dog barking right next door when they pulled up. The neighbor said no dog had barked in the last hour.

Was someone assaulted in? are they just given out 67 years for a window being cracked? I don't know. The incident report noted there were also no tire tracks. According to the handwritten 2000 incident report, upon arrival, we secured the outer perimeter, noting a lack of fresh footprints in the snow before making tactical entry. The house was going through too selectively for my taste.

Smith eventually won his freedom after a prosecutor, asked the judge to dismiss his case. After spending 21 years in jail, Smith was moved to tears when he was released on July 4th of 2021. Who was his lawyer? Him. Well, yeah, he studied law to prove his own innocence. No fucking way.

I mean, yeah. No, I meant like his original lawyer. It was a triple murder. I guess that the crime they was investigating was a triple murder. Okay, all right. So there's some backstory here. Smith says he fought hard studying case law, reading the law books, just being there for hours and hours.

That was my time. It was like I got to go to the last. library every day. That's what it was for years. That's fucking insane, man. How can you replace 21 years in prison? You can't. If I offered you $50 million to go to prison now and get out in 21 years, there's no amount of money that I could give you that you would do that. No. Would you do 21 years for 50 million? No. What if you went in when you were like? Ten. You guys know how long 21 years of your life is? You get out of 31, you're 50 million.

No. So what, you're 31 now? 32. You come on with you... 33 this year. You come on with you 54 to 50 million? It ain't worth it. Nah?

No way. This point is too late in the game. Yeah. See, I see the opposite. Like, you want to lose your 20s and your 30s? I'd rather have money. Jay Z's 50 what? You can rather...

Because you've lived... All right, so if I go to lunch with Jay Z, if I'm free, I can't go to lunch with Jay Z if I'm in prison. No, but I'm saying Jay's 53. Pretty good life. He's still... Not having sex. for 21 years. It's crazy.

He'll have sex. No, he's definitely fucking. I'm not saying I'll make $50 million in 21 years, but... Guards and shit. I have some confidence that I'll be able to make money to make myself comfortable and, you know... Yeah. I can experience life. Yeah.

All right, man. Let me know how y'all do after 10 days in jail. Yeah. And let me know if you want to do 21 years for 50 million dollars. I couldn't do 10 minutes in jail. Yeah, I couldn't even do 5. I couldn't do 10 minutes in jail. He's a rat.

Yeah. Give me the McDonald's immediately. Yeah. What crimes are you doing in front of Julian? I can't do 10 minutes of jail. Look at this round. I feel like I run the yard. Yeah, all right.

Yeah, all right. Yeah, I'll run the yard. It's going to run you. It's embarrassing to be in a crowd in the feet of a bunk. Yomi, you think you could do 20 years in jail? No? Edd, I think you could do it. I cannot do it no 20 years in jail.

Edith just wants to do it so you can shove shit in his asshole and deliver it. Sure. What a take. All right. You can do it for free. Yeah. Yeah, you don't have to do 20 years. No, but it's the rush. It's the rush.

That's the thrill? I might get caught. But what are you doing with your 50 mil? Wait, do I come out in innocent man or do I still have a felony? Because I can't, even if I have $50 million, I can't travel. We'll say you're wrongfully convicted. They owe our bad and then you get out. Now you have $50 million.

It's literally this scenario. They literally say, oh, my bag. And then let you out. Oh, my bad. Here's what happened. It's this scenario. And you can do podcast interviews. There you go.

Because you know that's the next step. Exactly. Yeah. You can tell your story of Joe Rogan. You can go on Rogan. Yeah. Jesus. Or are all.

I don't want to go to jail for any amount of money. I'll be honest. Yeah, I'm good on that. Jail was like, Joe Rogan? No. The guy that was wrongly convicted. Like, let's reach out.

Yeah, let's reach out. Julian. Because I need to know the story. Ralph Blaine Smith. Yeah, let's reach out to Ralph. He came out of prison and a train exploded, right? outside his house. Jesus.

He is in Ohio. Yeah, he was free in 2021. So that was two years ago. I don't know, man. And on top of that, like, I don't want to get too dark, but we watched the Central Park. Oh, the Central Park 5th. Yeah.

Jail could really fuck you up. Because they all got a bunch of money and they're still like not okay. So he went into jail what year again? Eating delicious and shit? They're divorced. Probably 2000. He came home in 2021. Okay, so he was, that's 21 years.

And don't do that's delicious. So what did he? What did he miss in 20 years? 9-11. iPhones. The D.C. sniper. No, he was there for now.

LeBron bringing the trophy back to Cleveland. There you go. Oh, man. What else? He probably went crazy with that. He is an Ohio man. Kobe's 60-point game. I'm trying to think.

Kobe's dead. Kobe's dead. She's trying to think Ohio stuff. MGK dating Megan Fox. Oh, oh, wait. Paul Walker. He went and died. Bone Dug's reunion.

He missed like nine Fast and Furious movies. Pete and Ariana. That's not an Ohio thing, though. Oh shit. Just trying to think of Ohio stuff. Ohio. The Buckeyes definitely got a national championship somewhere in there. A couple times over.

Maybe. One of my best friends moved to Ohio. That definitely missed Edd's friend moving in Ohio. Should have been on for that. Yeah. So I'm sure he's so disturbed. I'm sure he lost this shit when Edditch friend moved up. I'm sure he was in there like, I can't.

take it anymore. I mean, going to be honest, the fact you just bring it up, I feel offended that I missed out on this. Ohio State won, yeah, they won quite a few. There you go. Oh, yeah, man. What's 50 mil to it on a Buckeyes way? It doesn't even compare. It's like a candle in the sun. That shit don't even out. If a tree falls in the forest. If a Buckeye went in prison. The Buckeyes win while you're in prison, do you know? Yeah. Damn. I feel like they probably watch, right? Oh, absolutely. Yeah. For sure. Oh, now it's tablets and, you know. They be TikTok and I follow a couple prison people on TikTok.

Of course you do. Of course you fucking do. Because they do, they be TikTok and they actually take the time to really create thoughtful TikToks. I mean, they have nothing but. What else are they going to do? Like come with me to the commentary? Yeah, like the day and the life of and shit.

Like they'll be like flat iron and like the grill cheese and shit and like they'll show it. Okay, let's go on prison TikTok. That's like something that you're interested in seeing dudes in prison just like survive. It's interesting. Prisoners are going viral on. But if you think about it, it's a huge market. There's prison shows, prison louise. TikTok in prison.

People, oh, this is a thing. Yeah. You gotta think the workout regiments are probably crazy on there. That's dope. It's kind of hard. Wait, am I bugging? How do they have phones? Yeah, I'm going to say, are these not?

See, look at y'all snitching. How do they have drugs? See, I didn't bring it up. This is in the search bar on TikTok. But you're asking questions now. Formally incarcerated. How do you have a phone? Well, don't do that.

You've definitely gotten a call from someone with a burner phone. Oh, for sure. He's not making TikTok. He's like he's sneaking a cold. You're not on TikTok. Maybe you don't know his channel. No, this is crazy. Damn, you're missing out.

You're not supporting the homie? This is wild. TikTok's in prison is crazy. Burner phones with HD is hilarious. Yeah. Now I see why people, you know, that 20, listen, man, that 50 mil might not be bad. If they live in like this.

Three hot's in a cop. Just because they have a phone and TikTok, you think this is worth it now? This is, this is going to sound. They know what's going on in the world. They have connection to the internet. For real. They know what's going on.

They're chilling. They're eating. you got you as long as somebody in the outside is keeping your commentary full you can buy food like you can I'm just saying like it's not like you just sitting in the fucking cell by 21 years is fucking excessive but I've you know I've sat in the house five years 50 million yeah yeah all right five years for 50 million I might do what well are we just changed the scenario drastically that's 21 years versus five years knocked a lot of years off that sentence I'm just saying five years I'm definitely I will definitely and I get out in three and you get out in three

I get on good behavior? It got to be tax free. You could tax my 50 mil and I probably still do it. Look, she's making for five years. I think I can end up five years. I'm going to tax my 50 million too. The mayor's would come out looking like young a man. I would go in looking like young man.

Hold on. Hold on. Does the prison system know you get 50 mil when you get out in five years? That's a big. That's a huge portion. They're going to make your time hard. What? They're going to make your time hard. You know how many I'll use you're going to have?

Come on a rich boy. Yeah. That's crazy. but five years, five million non-taxed. You know that shit gonna be taxed. No, it has to be, can't tax it. I'll do it.

Google taxing 50 mil straight up. I will come out of muscle. Yeah, Julian, cool. Look at they're literally doing TikTok dances. One of my favorite Todd Allen songs is from someone in prison. What? Yeah. T.C.'s interlude?

Miracle? Absolutely. Smoke that. This is what Demaritan. This is Damaris's type right here. She likes in jail. She likes jail birds. Do you think in like

another lifetime you would be one of those women that writes to serial killers and marries them? I'm all set. Thank you so much. In another lifetime. Like not this one.

In another lifetime. No. In this lifetime. You would never date a jailbird? Why is he wasting more? My boyfriend went to jail, I never spoke to him again. I don't do that.

Damn, that's the type of woman you are? You are not a writer. You are not going to say yes. You're not going to hold it down? I told him from the very beginning. I don't, I'm not holding you down in jail. How long was the sentence? I was 18 years old, bro.

I'm not doing it. How long was a sentence? That's a perfect time to hold someone down, though. Yeah. No. Because by the time he gets out, you get 50 mil. I had to write, like, college papers. I'm not writing four-page letters.

How long was a sentence? He did like a year and a half. Wow, you are. No, he did two years. I'm sorry, he did two years. Still, still two years. He did two years. No, from 16 to 18, bro.

Those years don't even count. What? He was 16 when he went to prison? I was 16. He was 24. No. That's why he went to prison. Wait, wait, wait, what?

Wait, wait, what? Wait, what? Yeah. What? Oh, wait, what? Keep him in jail. He's out now? No, I hope he's under the jail.

They paroled him? What? He was 24? Yeah. You... Is there women in prison TikTok? Wait, hold on. Guys.

That's sick. Now, look, now, I bet that'll be in Rory's algorithms while y'all judging me. What? What? Women in prison. No. Wait, no, no, no, no.

Fuck that. You were 16. Yeah, it's awful, but it's actually pretty common. Yeah, it's very common. That's legal? No, but it's just very... I wasn't. Well, we weren't sleeping together.

How did you meet them? When I was 16, we weren't sleeping together. How'd you meet them? He used to... Babyset you? No, he used to sell drugs. So when were you all sleeping together? When I was 18.

He had... Actually, I was 18. After you got out. Yeah. Oh. So you gave us him play afterwards. Yeah. No, but while he was in there, no.

I mean, of course you can't. He had another girlfriend. Oh, okay. Yeah, I'm doing that. No, but when you get out, no, sure, we're cool. But you're saying four-page letters and shit. Like with core links and burner phones, like you can damn near a text.

You don't have to write four page letters. I didn't know. I'm not a jail girl. I didn't know any of that when I was 16, 17, 17, 18 years old. I didn't know that. I didn't know TikTok. Prison TikTok was a thing. They got lights in prison? Like LEDs? Yeah, this is. I had sexy in there. I had no idea that this was going

on in the prison system. Now I see why taxes are going to, Rory. Kind of look fun. Yeah. That should look mad. This does not kind of look fun. He's got headphones. One thing I'll say is probably... He's got headphones. The lack of freedom probably really makes them realize what's important in life. There's probably like a lot of strong bonds.

There's probably a lot of reading. A lot of time being spent. Like, they don't have stuff. So because they don't have stuff, they probably appreciate life more. That's what you think that maybe they're fighting, stabbing, killing. I'm sure that that happens. But I don't think that it's like the movies. I don't think that happens all the time constantly.

I don't know if you guys have been keeping up with what's been going on in Rikers. I'm not taking any of that money that you're talking about. Rikers is a special case. Well, they're supposed to be closing Rikers soon, right? They said that, and then instead of closing it,

they just put more people in there to sleep on top of each other inhumane conditions. Do you think anyone in prison TikTok has done the Beyonce Cuffet wetter remix challenge? I didn't know it was a challenge, but I'm sure they have

because that song is dope. I like that remix. It's fire. I just feel like, it would go crazy. It's her. she did an official remix. She re-recorded vocals.

Like she re-recorded the original Cuffet song to do different vocals. And she made it a sexier, a sexier song. I love it. I listened to it five times today. D. Twista got a check coming. Definitely. Shout out to DJ eccentric.

He got a bag too. Shout to DJ eccentric. I didn't actually, when I first heard that verse, I thought that that was on the album. I was like, did I miss that on the Renaissance album? This doesn't feel like dance. Shout out to Jay Beats. I don't know what their whole beef is, Decentric and him. I don't know who did it first.

But Jay Beets, I've been following Jay Beets for a long time. I even on our old pod used to play his mashups with Beyonce DeAngelo. Like he's one of my favorite mashup DJs because he's a producer too.

So shout out to Jay Beets. I don't know. They've been going back and forth on Twitter on who did it first. On this one? A Centric did it first. But eccentric, I guess, won the battle

because Beyonce took that one. That is something to fight about. Jay Beets does have a lot of great mashups. I like that trend. Like I think that shit is cool that that that, That's coming back again.

And I think Beyonce's Renaissance because it's a dance album. I like that they're leaning into mashups that other DJs are doing and remixes and shit like that and making them official. So I hope they do more of that. I forgot the DJ's name that did the remix

or he did a different version of St. John's Roses. That took off him. Oh yeah, that took off crazy. Shot to like, he made it a more uptempo. I forgot the DJ's name. But that sent roses like... Skyrod.

Yeah, that shit went crazy after that remings came out. So that is dope. DJs do that. I did a Ice Spice and Michael Jackson blend. You did that? I did that. I did it really well.

You don't think Mike was worthy, right? What? No, Mike is never worthy to get on a song with the Bronx Legend Ice Spice. Come on. But that's happening a lot on TikTok. Mike not good on Davidson. One of Summer Walker's songs, Karma, that a DJ sped up and it became a viral song that actually ended up putting karma back on iTunes charts.

Which is a very old like Summer Walker song. TikTok has been like reviving all of these songs. There was a black song that went viral. And now like the video on YouTube is hitting millions and millions of views because all of these younger kids have never heard these songs before. We talked about this before. I do like that. I do like when people find older songs and they go viral.

I hope that, you know, the kids on TikTok going to actually find these artists and look at their catalog to listen to their music as a result of that. Don't just TikTok the one song. Like, you know, that album was actually dope that that record was on. I need to talk to some of it. in the music industry that specializes in that because what's a Benzino's niece?

I apologize. Coyler Ray. Daughter, I'm sorry. Corla Ray. With her huge record, isn't it sped up by a DJ though? The version that everyone loves?

How does that split up? I'm interested. I've never worked in that world before, so I am curious. I came from that world. I mean, it's fine because if you there is no, TikTok is integrating monetization,

but the DJ, whoever speeds it up isn't monetizing on that record. So if people want to listen to that version, obviously they can go to TikTok. You can, if it's succeeding that well, you can get that version cleared, go to the splits with the DJ, put that out properly. But more often than not, the label is going to get the money and the artist from the actual song itself getting the stream. So when it's sped up and put through TikTok, it does not monetize from the person that's I was working the Summer Walker when they did the whole speed up album.

So they had to go back and get the biggest point of contention was going back to Drake because they had to do the whole record, the whole album again. They had to re-clear Drake's vocals to be sped up. So you have to go through the clearing process all over again. Got it. Okay. Yeah. Well, this version of cuff it is dope. Yeah, it's dope.

Did you guys buy Beyonce tickets at all? No, I have not. No. They're not real fans. I know. Demaris? You know, I did. I was waiting online.

I was at a friend of mine's daughter's birthday party. And I was like next to the jump around. I was halfway through my party. Hitting refresh. Hitting refresh. Yeah. Yeah. Who you take it at?

How much did you guys pay if you don't mind me asking? My ticket alone was six. Jesus. Yeah, I paid $1,400 for $2. God. Oh. Where is it at? My life.

My life. Oh, so at the MetLife Stadium. Okay. Yeah. I mean, Chris Brown could do it. Nah, but it's like, Beyonce will open. Yeah, yeah. And then Chris, you said Chris Brown sold out the O2 because little baby's on the bill.

You said that. I'm saying they're both, they're both on the bill. You said that. They're both on the bill. They are, but you said that. To be fair, it's easy to sell out arenas in Europe because he's not a European art. He's not a European artist. She just said it's easy to sell out arenas.

First stop right there. Hold on. I don't know. I don't care. I know what she's trying to say. She said it wrong, though. Okay, I'm sorry. It's not.

easy, but it's easier than to sell out in America because in Europe, people are traveling from all over Europe to come to that one show. Areas where somebody who can see him in Boston is not going to go see him in Madison Square Garden if they live in Boston. It's completely different. Are you trying to see it what I'm saying? He sold out the garden last year. Yeah, he did a little baby.

No shade. No shade. No shade. You don't think a little baby moved any tickets? I didn't say that. Okay. We know who headlined. I guess.

Okay. It's a baby agency. Yeah. What song do you think that Beyonce's gonna open with? You want her to open with Virgo's Groove or Alien Superstar. You know that's your shit.

Yeah, probably Alien Superstar. She's not opening with Virgo's Groove. Alien Superstar? Rory was pissed off at that. She's not opening with Virgo's groove. She's one of the best fucking songs she's ever made. She's not just starting the...

I did get upset about that. Yeah, I was passionate about that. I just caught my... I didn't realize my tone in that entire... I heard it only your voice. Jesus, man. It came from the... came to like the bottom

sounded like me. That was like an outer body experience. I watched myself say that. That was from the Book of Tate right there. I was upset. She is not opening with Versailles. If it was Pisces maybe, but yeah. I think Beyonce could get real UFOs to open for alien superstar.

Beyonce having aliens at the concert. If anyone can summons the aliens, it would be Beyonce. For sure. Definitely. That's what the government's getting us ready for with these Chinese balloons. Absolutely. That's what you're getting in. Yeah, they're going to be above the Beyonce concert.

So they said that they didn't find any, uh, any, uh, any, uh, wreckage or anything from the UFOs that they shot down? No. And you saw they deleted the reports that said that some of the fighter jets said that their navigation got scrambled and everything got fucked up when they went around this UFO

but you know I'm quiet over here. This has been a conversation we've been having here in a conversation I had my friends last night about if there were to be an actual UFO, an alien life force to come into Earth and I said

what would our reaction as a country be all over friends is we got to shoot that shit down and i was like why is our default just always blow shit up violence yeah and they were like well you got to think about it they'll probably have guns and weapons and they'll probably want to fight back too and i think it's such a i was going to say american but i guess it's just an earth quality that we're so we lean with so much conflict and if they're here they're here to hurt us who's to say like war in conflict even exists in these other galaxies, in these other, you know,

planets, wherever the case we be. Like, I think the assumption that violence is a means of communication is such a us thing. 100%. They could come here and not even know the concept of conflict, war, guns. They don't even know what any of that means. Right. It's like every fucking movie we make about aliens is us fighting them.

And them, that's the propaganda of us being amazing. As Americans, we could take anyone on. But this is the other point I thought about too. If there was another life form, if they came here, would that not be the ultimate way to unite Earth, just like the human race?

Like we would stop beefing with China, everything else that's going on, like globally. No, it would be who could be cooler with them? With the aliens. Or who could beef with them first. But say that it was like an us first them situation, the world would have to unite. Okay, you know, all right.

It would be smart for us to you know. Yeah. But the way America works, I think that they would fake unite and somehow use it. They would always be looking for a way to get over. We're so narcissistic. I think that we would still be looking at. The world is narcissistic. Yeah, but America is really, really narcissistic.

You don't think that's already happens? You don't think these past few balloons has not united us in China? I think China has stolen our fucking data. They're stolen everything from us. Let's say those were not balloons. Let's say they're UFOs. Let me put my tinfo a hat on. You don't think that there was communication between the U.S. and China to clean that up as if maybe it's a conflict between the two of us because we have a conflict.

You don't think that united us right away where China gave a very vague like it's ours, but it's a weather balloon. And then we were like, all right, cool, you can chill for five days. Then we're going to shoot it. I think they already united us. And if you've noticed, Google Battle of Los Angeles in 1942. Is that a movie? Yeah, I was going to say. They made it one.

I'm like, was the rock in it? The rock wasn't. It was a real thing. It was right after Pearl Harbor. It was a real thing. This isn't a conspiracy. This actually happened. They shot at a fucking UFO for three hours.

What? With our entire, you know, bro, I'm not making this up. This is a real thing. The Battle of Los Angeles, also known as the Great Los Angeles Air Raid, is the name given by contemporary sources to rumored attack on the continental United States by Imperial Japan and the subsequent anti-aircraft artillery barrage, which took place from late, 24th February, 24th of February, to early February 25th, 1942. Oh, so coming up on the, what is that, the 80 year anniversary? Yeah, somewhere. Yeah.

Overlost Angeles, California. The incident occurred less than three months after the U.S. entered World War II in response to the period Japanese Navy surprise attack on Pearl Harbor. Yeah. So essentially, they shot at an unidentified flying object for hours upon hours. fired every last fucking thing we had, nothing could penetrate it, and it dipped.

And if you even look at the Chinese balloon, quote unquote, the first one that happened, where was it first seen? Right above where we keep the nukes in Montana, whatever fucking state it was. Anytime we have confirmed UFOs, they're over our nuclear areas, where we keep nuke shit.

And if you see from this time on, our technology had improved drastically, like crazier than it ever had in years. Like we went from what we did in 500 years, turned to one year as far as the technology we had. What are you trying to say to Julian's point? No, we can't, they know there's going to be no military, no conflict because we can't beat them.

They gave us the shit that could beat them. Oh, so you think we just can't beat them? No. We don't have the technology. We don't have, they gave us the technology that could do it. Why did nukes just come out of nowhere? That molecule, they just randomly, they had had forever just figured out that it could blow up Eriuma.

I pronounce that wrong, I'm sure. I think you did pretty good, actually. Hiroshima. So, wait, wait, wait, wait. I'm not saying this is true. I'm just, I've, and I'm not the crazy conspiracy, alien guy. I'm going off base, like, this battle in Los Angeles happened. For the sake of the conversation, let's go, you're saying they provided us with the uranium.

100%. Things we had already on how we use chemicals and stuff we already have out of nowhere, like, come on, we can't give the human race that much. much credit that within a five to 10 year span, we just decided and learned about the technology that has PS3 working at a new way. Like, I'm joking, but I'm serious. Like, all this shit we've had forever. We've had some amazing minds before this. Like, that's the arrogance, I think, of generations where we think people, you know, that are older than us in generations, we're dumber. They weren't. We were given some other type of resource and some type of knowledge

that those people were not given. Well, it says in 1789, uh, German chemist. was able to isolate the whole chemical compounds, pretty much develop what is now commonly known as uranium. You don't think that this scientific part of it is the... No, I didn't say they gave us uranium. I said how to use it in that capacity. Are you fucking crazy? Like out of nowhere around wartime,

and now for some reason, anytime there's a UFO, it's over what was used at that time with nukes, with nuclear warfare, even down to this year. Where did they see the first balloon? Above the nukes. In Montana, right? Above where we keep our nuclear.

This is off CNN, Fox. Everyone is saying this. I'm not giving you guys some conspiracy shit. You should think, Ma. Ma. I think that we should leave them niggas alone. That's what I'm saying. I agree.

I agree, I agree. Leave them niggas alone, man. They don't want no beef. They probably just got lost on their way home. Yeah, you know. No, no, no. I think they've been monitoring what the fuck we've been doing since the 40s. Why make it so obvious this time?

And listen, I know it's been comical for people to be like the aliens built the pyramids. I believe that. Okay, why? Yeah, why? That's racist. Why? Why?

Oh, I get it. Ha-ha. First of all, I don't even get me on my suffering wisdom. You got to say black people's aliens. Because I could say that the aliens that they've shown is Hollywood. Even the guys that have come out, the real scientists, I forgot the gentleman's name, even went on Rogan and said that he saw the alien at Area 51. Aliens is not a conspiracy theory anymore. No, DOJ has said it exists.

We have aliens in fucking all of our area. 51 through 75, whatever you want to say. Right. I'll say the ones they're showing are the Hollywood version. They look nothing like that. They may look like you, Maul. Whoa. I know that's racist, but I know some...

No, no. It's actually, if you go through, if you tell the NOI, if you let Farrakhan tell it, no, it's the opposite of racist. But I can say alien, the aliens look like you. Yeah. No, I'm pretty good point. I was saying they're more aligned with human-like qualities. Yes.

100% commonly walk them on. I'm just giving other theories of just fascinating theories that I've heard people tell me about quote unquote aliens. I'm not using the word alien in the derogatory term. We definitely have been a groom to think that aliens either want to attack us or they look a certain way. Yeah. Just growing up images and movies and magazines and books and things like that.

So we have this, I guess, fear of other life forms from other galaxies. universes or planets or whatever. But I truly don't believe that any time we encounter a UFO or anything like that or other life form, I don't think it's a they're not a threatening. I don't think it's a threatening thing.

I think that... That was my original point. Yeah, I don't think it's a threatening thing. I think they're just... They just discovered our universe. Just like if we send a satellite or a fucking buggy on wheels to Mars and just start controlling it from Earth

with a remote control and just trying to find life for them. I think it's the same thing with them. We're not trying to, you know, bring any harm to Mars. We're trying to discover it and see if it's a livable planet. Yeah, things like that. I mean, I could be totally wrong. They could be here collecting information to then come back with the whole crew and decide, okay, we want to take this over and live here.

Well, I don't think that's what it is. That's like locking me in a room with a Navy seal for a year. I would have been dead if there was beef. Yeah. That's like, like there's not beef. With what Rory is saying. if they would just they could kill us in like the whole thing in like 10 minutes it's not like we got to get ahead of it bro like they could have done this in the 40s but I'm all right

let's just have phone with it let's have fun with it well I was gonna get even crazier conspiracies with our Air Force we're going no but no dude let's just say let's just say aliens even though I feel like that's the wrong thing to call them they're probably like who you calling an alien but let's just say aliens whatever that's what we call them right other life forms what if they made Mad pussy, though. Like, what if the shipland and they get off? It's like a bunch of like... A bunch of Edens?

Yeah, it's like, this is y'all? This is your crew? Oh, I like that one. The alien double entendre is crazy. Wait, which movie was that? When they threw the doves in the air and they was like, oh, they seem like nice guys and he pulls out the laser and just blows the president's head off?

Oh, what movie was that? Oh, are you talking about Mars attacks? Yeah, Mars attacks. Yeah. Wow, what a classic. Because they looked kind of pussy. Yeah, they looked like Julian. I'm saying, what did they pussy?

I can't just hijack my joke. It's too late. I don't want to find out if they pussy not. They don't look like Julian. I don't want to find out. Yeah, I'm not here to test. I'm not here to find out. If they look like this, what are you doing?

Oh my God. That's what I'm talking about. Yeah. That's the movie I'm talking about. Julian. They were so cute. Blue is wig off right at that that ceremony. Yeah.

They were cute. Listen, I don't know what they're here for, what they, what the, all of these sightings are about. But, um, listen, man, I just hope that they come in peace. Roy, what are you? What do you think we're doing with all this warfare technology of trying to get jets to fly faster, nukes to blow up bigger shit? It can't be for the world. We all know that there's only so much world that exists.

If we start nuking everything, at some point, you as the, on offense, are going to become on defense because the world is not flat. I'm sorry, Kyrie. It is a sphere. So if you start nuking everything, eventually that shit is going to come back. to you. Why are we making bigger bombs, faster planes,

bigger ammo, what would be the point? Because they're definitely afraid of what's out there. They know that there's other things out there. They're terrified, the ego of man, knowing what they already know. I'm not talking about the president. I'm talking about the people that own the color blue, the people that really know what's going on. Jay-Z.

He did walk in for that moment. That was great. I did. That's a sick name to drop in the middle of conspiracy. Own the color yellow. China. They, they, I think, oh my God. That was actually fucking hilarious and you should keep it.

But I'm gonna, I vote to keep that. I think that's hilarious. We're not. We're not keeping. No, baby girl. No, baby girl. What does Yomi think? She's, she's the decision.

She's not Asian. I didn't, she's just the decision. It could have been a different, yo. It could have been a joke not about Asians. I'm tired. This is just bad. I just looked at her because she's quiet and she could guide us in a better direction. It's all bad.

She has a yellow hat, y'all. That's what it is. She's just bad. Yeah. Is she like, keep it? No. She has a hello kitty keychain for sure. That's cruel.

How did we get that? He keeps going. He wants to delete it. No, he's going in. I just hope the aliens come in peace, man. That's all. Whichever, whoever's out there. You guys think we went to the moon?

No. No. Rory definitely doesn't believe. I don't. We talked about that in our conspiracy episode. Yeah, we did. Yeah. Not even a little bit.

I don't either. Really? I still don't think Drake has a Michael Jackson feature. You think we went to the moon? Yeah, that's just me, man. I don't know. That's just me. No, but I understand what you guys were saying

as far as, like, Hollywood painting aliens as, like, these horrible, ugly creatures because they did the same thing with witches. They did the same thing with black people. Yeah, I'm about to say. Well, that's still doing a little more local here. That's a good point. Yeah, the portrayal of...

Have you ever seen a propaganda poster? Witches, quote, unquote, the portrayal of witches in Hollywood is horrible when there's plenty of witches, like, especially black people and indigenous people in our heritage. Have you ever seen a woman do math? Pain.

Have you ever seen a woman drive? Which? Fuck it. Just never. Aliens. They're here. They live amongst us. Rory,

they're here. I'm here. No, yeah, no, you're 100% right. I've said before. I think witches were just diabetics, but that's just.

Yeah. That's a crazy take, but I understand what you mean. Yeah. How do you understand what he means? Because he explained it. How did your brain get to that? Because, say,

No, that was my father's, Theory. And I just agree with him. He told us that in his conspiracy episode. I know. Every time he says it, I just laugh. Look at the shit Disney could get off back then. Yeah, that's crazy.

How did the Red Man become Red? That's wild, right? Is this a Red Man album cover? A Red Man album cover. This is sick, man. Yeah, it's kind of interesting. They got racist and shit is. Oh, my God.

They went hard with the reason. All right, to Demaris's point and what we're looking at now, you don't think that they've been trying to do that with aliens because that's been our biggest fear. U.S. versus China versus Russia. Russia, Ukraine, Palestine, like that entire shit is minuscule compared to aliens versus the world. Listen, man, I saw ET grown up, one of my favorite movies. They just wanted their baby back. They didn't come here for no beef.

They just wanted to come pick him up and take them home. That's it. That's all they want it. I just think that other life form exists. I don't think they're violent. I don't think they mean they want war with us. I just think that us being humans, we've been programmed and taught to defend the earth because we feel like anybody that's not from earth is a threat to earth.

Where do you rank a product placement when it comes to E.T. and Reese's pieces. Mmm. Because we got aliens because we just left a trail of peanut butter. Yeah. Which is crazy. That was actually genius. The Schoberg is a genius for that. And did the biking industry drop the ball?

If that was a huffy, we would have went nuts. A mongoose that started flying with E.T. Yeah. But that might have been like false advertising. I mean, I think Risi's species is a bit of false advertising that if I leave a trail that an alien is going to have you ever left trail of Rhesisys? I may be around that time did. And I'm not joking. Nobody showed up.

Did you want to meet the aliens when you were a child? Crackhead showed up. You got any more than this? Did you want to meet the aliens when you were a child? Of course. I want to meet the aliens now. Wait, what do you, would you do a podcast? Who are the alien?

That could be it. That could be it. That is the closest you could get. I was being mad. Pro black. I'm sorry. That's crazy. Well, listen, the same book that I'm referring to that I won't mention because my shadow ban us from some of the information I've been spewing right now would say that, yes, I would be the alien.

Now I want to know what the book is. In a social and scientific experiment about putting two molecules. I can believe that. Tyree said that and they tried to get rid of him. They did. They traded them to Dallas. To Dallas. You can get real, Racy down there.

Go to Texas with all that shit. They did. They did. Yeah, no, yeah, you're right. Look at E.T. Holden of pot of flowers. The sickest photo of all times. Look at Drew Barrymore. I know, right?

Oh, wow. So pretty. Trans E.T. Oh, it's not right. Trans T. They're very forward. It's a progressive alien right there. Spilberg was ahead of all of this.

I'll tell you, Spilberg was ahead of all of this, man. He knew it was a way down? Absolutely. In retrospect, this was a good disguise. I've definitely seen women that look like that. You've seen a woman. that looks like that? Yeah.

Sorry for you, man. Where'd you see a woman that looks like that? That is 23-M-Bee relatives? I'm not going to say the block. That's like how women look on the walk of shame the next day. 100%. Oh, yeah. After a night out?

Women after too much facial surgery with no makeup on look like this ET photo. Sheesh. Well, listen, man. I don't know, man. I try not to get caught up in all of this UFO sightings and all of this shit. Only because I feel like it just triggers your anxiety. You start looking at the sky and every time you see a star, you're like, I think that's them coming. It gives me, actually, jokes aside, it gives me less anxiety.

Dead-ass. It gives me, it calms me more. Maybe that's why I do research it so much because it calms me more, because I get caught up in the bullshit of what we created in society. Yeah. This day-to-day, constant fucking bullshit, not realizing we matter. I have self-love. But the scope of everything is much bigger. Very small.

So the alien part does make me feel better and less anxious. I have a question. If like the aliens came or the like let's say the zombies came, all of this stuff, right? Would you guys actually want to survive? Would you guys actually want to survive? Yeah. Like you know how like in the zombie movies? I want to see all of it.

People are like fighting the zombies and shit like that. You see everything that's going on. Like would you actually try to survive? Listen, what you mean? Listen, I played Manhunt growing up. I was Manhunt champion three summers in a row. I don't think that any of the zombies could find me. Facts.

Okay. How long did you? How long did you count while other people hit? I got to see how, like, you had to count the 20. All right. But then you had your bound. You can't go here.

You're not allowed to. Well, of course. Yeah. Who would be the first to go in a zombie apocalypse among us? I'm like, I know, I'm killing myself. Oh, why? Demeris. Killing yourself.

Off the block. Easy answer. Demaris. Yeah. Why would you kill yourself? Nah, kill. I'm going to kill myself and let you know how stupid you're going to feel if they come and they be like, yo, why she did that?

Like, yo, we wasn't going to. and do nothing. You know the way we just lined up shots? Like, what if they were like, yo, I got a bottle? Yeah, we came here to kick it with y'all. Like, we ain't want no beef. Like, the marriage on the floor are dead.

No, I'm talking about real. They go like, what's up with her? She's bugging. They're scared of us. Like, y'all are crazy. Like, y'all be doing that to yourself down here? Just kill yourself. I'm talking about Zop.

Forget alien. Like, the real zombie apocalypse. Like, when you see one person get bit and then they turn into a zombie. I'm not trying to stay around for the walking dead and see how that plays out. Like, no, I'm good. Like I'm not foraging for food.

I'm not hiding. If the zombies are slow, like most zombie movies, if they move fast like I am legend, them niggas was moving. Or like, yeah. If it's like that, then I might be with you, dog. Like, I'm gonna just go somewhere and just be like, yo, it's old.

Who the fuck wants to be the last person in the world? Like, I'm good. I'm good, bro. But he had that Bob Marley CD. Yeah, great way to wake up. And the dog, and his dog. I'd have lived for my dog. But first of all, you wouldn't have to, all right,

you wouldn't be like trying to scowage for food and shit. He was in Manhattan. Like if everyone died and I was just left with me in Basley and I had billionaire row, like I'd be okay. I'm living in luxury. I think there's enough food in Manhattan for me to last for my days. There's enough canned goods. Until they find your home and then break into your home. You keep forgetting.

Like you're not just alone. You're constantly being changed. Yeah, but I'd be a scientist like Will Smith and I'd have the barrenic. You're not a scientist right now. You don't become formerly a potter. Now, how you go from being a potter today? Wasn't that what Will. Smith was doing? No, he was a scientist in the

military. His dumb ass didn't realize the helicopter was going to go down with his family. He wasn't a smart scientist. I don't think he did. He would have never put his family on it if he knew it was going on. They was all chilling and he was like, all right, buy a little one. And then 17 zombies jumped and brought the helicopter down. Will it didn't see that as a scientist? No, he didn't.

He's not a psychic. He's a scientist. He's not a psychic. Or he was a man trying to get away from his family. Why didn't he getting that helicopter? Or he was a Republican. Like, Wait, what? Republicans love family. Don't do that.

No, they don't. They pretend they do. They fake love their family. They don't love their family. They hate their families. We do. Oh, there it is. Every week, Mall comes on here.

Yeah, I think I was going to see the fan this weekend. Not going to do it. Not going. Not happening. No, next week. Not happening. You see they're doing I Am Legend too. Are they?

They are? That was an house, yeah. Oh, that's not. They better not rule my favorite movie. That I want to see. 10 years later. I Am Legend is one of my favorite movie. I think it was amazing movie.

It was a great movie. I love I. That's one of the movies that any time it's on, I watch it. I watch it too. Same. And Will was in 90% of the movie, he was by himself, and somehow it was still an amazing movie. It was a really movie. And they need to give my man his props for that.

Great movie. I love that movie. Well, apparently Michael B. is going to be in it. Oh, come on. Michael B. Jordan? Mm-hmm. Why y'all hate Michael B. Jordan?

Now he's never going to be on the show. Michael B. Jordan can act. You don't think he can act? You saw Creed 1 and 2. he's directing three i like him in creed more than anything else he's ever played him he acts in creed he fights he he has he had like three lines oh i guess sure that's fucked up that i don't think i think michael b jones a decent yeah you guys are giving you decent is fucking hilarious what was the movie he was in what was the movie what was the movie he was in what was the movie he was the movie he was the movie he was the movie he was

he did a great job in that movie see i like to have mercy see i've been black panther i thought he did a he was he was he was he did a great job he was horrible in black panther he was still to this day he's in black panther of course you have racist racist are you dead ass oh Oh, the first one. I have not said any of those movies. It was a Marvel. Wait, hold on. I didn't mean it like that.

I meant like the Marvel comic. What do you mean by any of those movies? I didn't mean those movies. What do you mean? What do you mean? I didn't mean those movies. No, no. I meant like the comic book.

Like any of the Ryan Coogler movies? One of the greatest. Ryan what? Directors. I can't be racist. I like Tyler Perry movies. Okay. Okay.

Which one? Oh my God. You can be. That's actually. The most racist. It is the most racist. Speaking of Tyler Perry, he has a movie that I saw on Netflix. that was really good.

I don't know if I told you about it. A Jazz Man's Blues? No. You get a chance to watch that. If you get a chance watch that, it was a really good movie, really good movie. I think I mentioned it on the podcast before.

A Jazz Man's Blues on Netflix. Check it out if you have a really good Tala Perry movie. I am legend 2007 that came out. Jesus Christ. When is part two coming out? Probably a year or two. My best friend got fingered in that movie. In the movie.

Your best friend was in the time? That's actually a really good category to talk about for a topic one day. Maybe Patreon. No, like during the movies. Movies. In the movie. The theater. No, not in the...

I'm about to say what part of the movie was that. She was the one of the aliens. That's what I'm sorry. Demaris, I understood what you were saying. Thank you. During the movie, the woman's finger. Matter. No, it does.

You literally said when she got fingered in the movie. I was like, what? Like, they were like, I ain't cut. She was like, uh. She was like, what? All you hear is macaroni and cheese. If you think about it though, at the end of I am legend when they get to like the Oasis or whatever.

Yeah. Definitely people getting fingered in that bubble. Exactly. What? They was definitely fucking in that bubble. They had to get the population back. Yeah. Yeah.

Oh my God. Would y'all like sign up? Well, actually, I'm asking men and of course men don't care. I wish I had a woman to ask. There's a woman right there. If you would want to participate in recreating Earth? Yes. Repopulating Earth.

Of course you guys were because you're men. You don't have to actually have the fucking children. So you just want to know you're just asking if a woman would like to give birth. Essentially. I don't know if that's fully what was asked. But, all right. That's the bear, the bottom line. Can we think about this reality.

show or even scripted series of like the bubble that is after i am legend where there's only like 30 people and you have to keep the population going how shady it would get in there shady like no i won't like i'll fuck her but like i can tell she's a little has some mental health problems i don't want my bloodline because we're going to restart the bloodline i'm going to be the new chase yeah like i'm going to be the new rockefeller yeah like that's going to be my legacy i can't i can't fuck her but that's why you got to go on a speed date yeah they don't in the iameline you're Legend. And I am legend bubble.

Yeah. To repop. Five minutes and you figure out y'all know. What part of town you was from? Any kids? Well, the... Part of town becomes the bubble. Like, what part of the bubble you went?

Oh, you're downtown? I can't really fuck with you. Yeah. Castle Hill? Mm-mm. You're from? Co-op City? Nah.

Nah. Ah. You're from Section 3. Would you have a... Would you have some pressure on you, though? Knowing that you would be... The Klaze would be... Yeah.

The new Rockefeller's, like, for real this time. Would it be any pressure? For real this time? For real. That's funny. Like, for real, for real. I know y'all, like, I take the name, but like...

Like, you have a responsibility to get the population going, so I think everyone in the bubble would understand, like, we all just need to fuck each other. Yeah, yeah. Because we have to get the shit moving. Got to get these numbers up, yeah. But you thinking about your last name specifically,

you can't have a bunch of clays running around that ain't like beans in them. Yeah, you got to change the A from the hard ER. I am looking forward to Iron Legend, too, though. I do want to see a part two to this. It's interesting to see where the story goes. And Will Smith and Martin are doing another bad boys like we talked about before.

So Will Smith, even though he won't be allowed in any Grammys, I mean, any Oscars anytime soon. He's pumping out a lot of classic. Well, that movie's not. Do you think that movie's going to get an Oscar? I mean, even if it was nominated, he can't show up for it. Quick hater comment before we leave. I finally watched Bad Boys 3 for the first time last week.

Hard to feel about it. And what are you? Fucking awful. It was not. Holy shit was that movie bad. What was worse? That are grown-ups, too. I have never seen grown-ups too

All right Bad Boys 1 and 2 Solidified Classics Bad Boys 3 was What did you expect It was like 10 years afterwards What's funny is Their parts

Will and Martin's parts were great Everything around it was just awful Like it felt like a low budget movie mixed with a high budget movie It was a mid-budget? It was a mid-budget? Like anytime it wasn't

Will Smith or Martin Lawrence on camera I felt like they picked the worst fucking people to act. The scenes were weird. It was just bad. The baby mother wasn't bad. She was a good actress. When Caled is one of the best actors in the movie outside of Martin and Will, like, what are we doing?

With the legacy of bad boys. We're making her bad boys for her. I think the baby mother was pretty good. I like the baby mother. Spoiler. You didn't think Vanessa Hudgens was good in that? Well, she was in the... I'm confusing Vanessa Hutchinson.

Vanessa Hudgens. She was one of the officers. Their little team, tactical team. Oh, yeah. You know. You don't like a... Wow. You know.

You know. I like Vanessa Arjun. You do. I mean, okay. I mean, I bet. I'm sure. You walked into that. You noticed we didn't let you, we let you alone.

Mul loved her. Yeah. She's great. I was talking. I was a person. I just actually... She's a good actress. Her as a good actress.

Her as a human being. Yeah. There's an actor. I heard she does a lot of community services. I think she just got to either engage or marriage. which is one of the two. She's dating some baseball player. Oh, yeah, she is.

Yeah. You would know, it's weird. Mall keeping up by Vanessa Hutchinson. Mall's into her, too. I really, I like Vanessa Hutchinson. Ball's into her, too. I am. What is into her mean?

She's like her. I think, she's a good actress. I think, no, I think she's a good actress. Hutchinson? Hutchinson. Yeah, same shit. Bro. Yeah, he plays baseball.

Yeah. He can't play for the Yankees with that hair. You got a long-ass face. Her bob is bobbing. Any plans for the rest of the week, Rory. doing? I'm in the streets. Going crazy. My boy, outside. Outside everything.

It's been unseasonally warm ever since we saw that Chinese balloon. Unseasonally. Yeah. I just want to try to know. I'm paying attention to it's 63 degrees in February. So whatever that Chinese balloon was, I don't know what it was doing up there, but it's warm outside in New York City and it's cold in California.

But you have no plans this week. I don't know. Julian, what do you got? This weekend? I'm not sure. I'll be outside. This week. This week. Yeah.

Just wrap. I said this weekend. Oh, this is on. This is money. You are. This is why we pay you. Listen, we'll be back again this week.

We have a special episode coming out on another podcast this week as well, right? Yes. We're guesting out in these streets. We are guesting. We're being guests. One of my favorite comedians. Can't wait. Another white.

Sorry, guys. Another. But he's New York white. Yeah. It's a difference. So Italian. Yes. Yes.

His last name is Italian. Absolutely. So we'll talk to y'all soon. Be safe. Have fun. I'm that nigga. He's just ginger. Peace.

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Yes. Hope everybody has had a great start to their new year. Everybody's having a good time. Everybody's keeping up with their resolutions. Or you're not.

Or not. Or not. Being the same piece of shit you were this time last week. Yeah, Julian. Or you're having an awful year so far.

Yeah. You're off to a terrible start. You can only get better. Yeah. Or it won't. Or it won't. Or maybe this is one of those years that it's

It's not your year. It happens everyone. At some point. It has to be somebody else's year. It can't be your year. So maybe it's just, this is not your year. It's just not your year.

It's not your year. Maybe you're not going to be good until 2030. Yeah. That's all right. Hang in there. Seven years from now. Hang in there.

Fight the good fight. It'll be okay. So we are back. Last time we left you guys, that was the last episode, am I correct? Patreon? No.

I think it was two episodes. Okay, well, whatever. They heard Joll last week, but. Okay. So this is the first episode of the new year. So we have a little, a little bit of an update on the New Year's thing. We spoke to a young lady that Julian had met on the app Raya.

Yes. And she was coming in from Cleveland. Great co-sign for Raya right now. Absolutely. Great cosign. Coming in from Cleveland via the Iron Horse. Yes, use code Cleveland for 10% off your first month. The land.

The land. With the LeBron. You get a free LeBron jersey. Yeah. So she came out here to New York to spend New Year's with with Julian or so we thought. which we talked about on the real episode that came out on Tuesday and Wednesday, so I assume the Patreon people have heard that. Well, if you didn't, update. She cheated on Julian for four days that they were together.

She bought another man to Julian's doorstep and was tugging him down while Julian was standing in the rain on the way to go pick up food for him and this young lady. God damn. He was on his way to go pick up dinner and she already had dinner. Which is why she wasn't too hungry. She had a tube steak, if you will. Raw, raw meat. she had the old salami joe cock tar tar yeah cock tar yeah joe julia was upstairs with

cologne on and shit yeah and she was outside smacking sugar with some some gentleman from across town his flowers waiting for oh my god think you read a bubble bath for her soft music on soft music playing he had the whole vibe set only to go outside to pick up the food for both of them and to see her in front of his building kissing another man so streets were saying that she was also giving him a tug. But it was a big jacket with the rains. I didn't hear somebody say that. You know, I hang out in that neighborhood. Front of his coat was moving rapidly. I don't know.

He maybe had a rabbit under his jacket. I don't know. She could to do it slow. It was warming her hands up. Yeah. Keep her hands warm. Natural hand warmers. So we've decided his dick to call this young lady since we spoke to her on FaceTime the last time, Rory. Yeah, but naturally we'd have to. We'd have to call and get an update recap via FaceTime for you Patronies. This only happens here on

Patron. Patreon, but I'm calling it. So we're going to call her now? We will attempt to. Julian has sent me her number. Are you faced me? I'm going to fix it. I don't want to jinx it, but it feels like she's the type of girl that would randomly answer a face time from some. Oh, she's from some number.

She forgot who she gave her number to. So Maul's calling her. She doesn't have his phone number. No. Obviously, so I'm hoping she answers. I'm hoping she answers. All right. You ready?

Well, let's, let's, we're going to interview her. You know. I'm nervous. Oh, not a 305. No, don't put the mic. Put the mic on it. Put the mic on it. I'm down. Put the mic on the work.

I want to see her face work. It's not ringing though. Oh, there we're going. Oh, that scared the shit on me. No, we don't want to put her face on there. I don't think she's going to answer first ring anyway. So that's why I wasn't getting too excited. I wish you could leave like a voicemail FaceTime.

Like, it'll answer the video and then I could just leave like a video. All right, do double. Because sometimes people pick up on the double. Something's wrong. Maybe she has D&D and then, you know, notify anyway. So call it right back? I usually don't do this. Nah, do it.

Exactly. What? That doesn't matter. Yeah. I don't do this. All right, cool. Yeah. There's no moral compass.

Where's their morals? Yeah. She'll see a woman. Hey. Wow. Where's the microphone? What the fucking microphone? You guys really think she's going to answer?

We don't know. I'll be lucky if we get a call back. Yes. All right. All right. All right. Why don't you text her and say, hey, 911, please call back. Oh, that means so.

I'm not. You wait. Should I do that? Yeah. No, no, no, no, don't do that. That's a lot. 911, though? Yeah, 911's crazy.

It's an emergency. That's fucked up. FaceTime back? What? What are you going to say? Yeah, face-time. Well, first of all, we don't need to, I mean, it'd be nice to FaceTimer because I want to see her reactions. But at the end of the day, it's going to be audio.

That's true. I'm going to tell her what it is. I'm going to tell her what is. It's me, Mario. via FaceTime. Please, it's important. The princess, she was scared. Julian hasn't stopped crying.

Don't put you on. Come on. Yo, if we were going to say 911, we can say that. She's not FaceTime and back. Just leave my name out of it. Yeah. Should you try Instagram? No, I think this is the best one.

I'm going to say it's me. Don't say it's more, man. Don't say it's more. Don't say it's more. Hey, call me back via face time, please. It's important. dot dot that that is great she's gonna text back she's probably thinking it's a random number from

some dude in New York and he got the clap and he's trying to let her know you should say it's like a COVID company try to let her know so yeah we hopefully this young lady will call back so we can get her side of the story Julian not saying I don't believe you but it's just always fun to get the other side of the story um no I believe him I just I want to know just what her thinking was yeah like what's your reason Talk who is this dude?

What's your thinking? How much do you believe that she'll blame it strictly on being drunk and alcohol? Not on camera. She'll go. Like, she definitely won't. Why? I don't think she'll lean on. And I would hit...

She has enough times to come up with something new. Because I think I found the guy on Instagram based off the description that Julian had sent. He has DM me, but I don't know if I want to hit him because what if he has a girl? Like, what if he was cheating? That's his fault. I still live by the guy. Don't make out in front of Julian's building. Come on.

we can't go that route I mean we're not gonna like put his face and I'm not coming to him as a man for Julian I wouldn't either peace bro I don't even care you know this girl Happy New Year man You beat too sick All right well for Patreon

Because I'm sure we left Left out some details in the entire thing Oh there's more Well I'm asking How was the sex for real It was great No sex was fire Did the sex feel like

Oh you probably are gonna make out and fuck another dude this weekend type sex. You're a little too good at this with no chemistry off rip. Yeah, but that's not like a concern. I mean, like she's a grown woman. Like, I feel like she knows how to fuck. You know what I mean? Like, I don't think that's like a matter of hoeing yourself out.

I agree. How would she know to suck dick? Yeah, really good. Hell yeah. That shit was ill. Julian got the sloppy topy. That's why. That's why heart was hurt.

Hey, nothing hurt more than when you lose your best eater? Yeah. I mean, what? The best eater, baby. The baby, I'm told to you for this. segment. When y'all be sucking it the way y'all suck it when y'all suck it good.

What makes y'all think that Jock could just leave us alone after that? Yeah, DeMaris. What makes you feel that way? What makes you feel that way? Yo, why you lean up? I was just getting just getting some juice.

We're looking to get some understanding here. You couldn't have valued it that much. What? Who? That's that much you wouldn't fuck it up. I didn't fuck up anything. I'm not talking about Julian. I'm just saying in general.

Sometimes we don't fuck it up. Sometimes y'all just be out here just trying to be like. us trying to move like men. Rapping lips on everything. If it's really a blessing, why we only love to bless you? Why we can't be. That's what we be saying. Yeah, that's what we say.

When we got a bunch of other chicks, we'd be like, well, listen, I got to, you know, spread it around. Sounds like a disease. Yeah. That sounds kind of like. Add it in Houston. Infectious. It sounds like a disease.

But I feel like women don't give their best head to everybody. They give their best head to men. Well, did that cross your mind when you saw them in front of your building like, damn, I know what he just got. He's feeling himself now. No, I knew he didn't beat because his body language was like he was really pushing for the night not to end. Oh, okay. Like, if he was like, ah, here's your shit, like, good night.

Oh, so she gave him a sample. They, like, were just making out and spent the day together. I don't think he beat. So he was like, damn, what could have been? So I was like, no, bro, you deserve this. No, he's beat before. No, take this. Yeah, but it's been a minute.

Like, you know, when you like, it's like, oh, that's my Miami show day. She comes to New York, like once a year maybe. And then she's never around. So she was in town. He couldn't see her because she was with the girls. And then he had the opportunity to see her, but he couldn't beat. So I think it was like the tug of war of that. He was like, damn, last time I was fired.

And then she was like, I need to have that, but I can't. And then I blessed him. There you go. Do you feel the way that, like, he didn't take her out to Washington Park to play chess and still got those lips? I mean, he had great hair, so. Like, how great? I mean, good enough.

I don't fucking know. I don't know, man. I hope she calls back. She's going to call back. I feel it. I feel like she's a callbacker. And I think that obviously she hollied back at her old piece in New York. You know, you should hit delivered?

You should hit her friend. You have a friend's number? I don't have the friend's number. No, he has a T. No, don't call her. No, don't call her friends. Because I'm certain she told her the story. I would love to hear what the story.

I would love to hear the story the friend got. Let's experiment. It's also probably cap. Yeah, so. I don't want to do this properly. While we were gone, there was some things going on, Rory. I've seen that people were mad at Gabrielle Union for saying that she cheated on her first husband

because she made more money than him and she paid all the bills. Is that what she really said though? She said... I don't know. I'm just asking. I'm just saying this is, you know... I watched the clip.

She paid all the bills. That's what she said? Alreen. Gabriel Union has opened up about her dysfunctional marriage to her first husband, revealing that she felt entitled to infidelity during their relationship. Entitled to infidelity is sick.

That first go around, I definitely was not. getting wife of the year awards. I had some focus issues. Only women can get that. Some focus issues. I openly cheated. While, ex-shepherds spoke about feeling regret towards some of his past infidelity's union said that she wishes she had more guilt about cheating on her ex during their first marriage. She still doesn't give a fuck. And accuse the football player of infidelity as well. In my first marriage, neither one of us felt like the marriage should get in the way of our dating. Wait, wait, wait, wait. In my first marriage, neither one of us felt like the marriage should get in

the way of our dating. That doesn't sound like a toxic marriage. I don't think that that was planned. I think what she's saying is when we look back, we both were cheating on each other. So we ain't, you know what I'm saying? We didn't give a fuck.

Yeah, this was, they were more on their will and jade a shit at this point. No, I don't even think it was an open thing. It wasn't open. They were just both sneaky. Yeah. So keeping up with his activities like,

oh, that's what you're doing. You're going to feel this one. And I just felt entitled to it as well. I mean, I guess. And then she tried, imagine if a man said I was lacking focus as a way of describing cheating. I feel like we do say this.

And then she even got even deeper, which men can't do this either. She said, oh, I learned from my father that if you're the breadwinner, you're entitled to cheat. So I did it. Imagine if I said that. But you know that this was all a jokey conversation. No, I was joking. Yeah. I don't think she was really saying like I felt entitled.

She was joking a bit. She says, I felt like that's what comes. The spoils of riches. Like my dad before me, whoever has the most gets to do whatever the hell they want is what I thought. She goes on to say that the relationship should have never gotten out of the dating phase. All right, well, D-WA makes more than her. And he had a baby on her.

Yeah, he did. I don't know if it was on her. Multiple. I don't think they would. Yes. I thought that was with the BM before. No. Didn't he have one previously before her?

He had kids before her. He also had one during their marriage. Yeah. Well, because he makes more. I mean, yeah. And he has focus issues. And he has focus issues. Also, we don't know what his dad had taught him at the time.

If, you know, if you have more, you could do whatever. It was the NBA finals year. All right. It's a lot of stress. He's entitled to a baby outside of the relationship. He is, true. He was finals MVP. He did that man aside, baby.

Put him numbers. Give that man aside. He average 40 in the finals that year. Look at DeMaris now. It sounds a little different when it comes to the man, huh? Right. How many numbers is Gabriel Union put up? Oh, she was out there in a desert.

Rick. Crazy. She's from Arizona, right? Yeah, she's out there. I don't know. But I know where Cabriel Union is from a fuck. I think she's a Phoenix native, right? Yeah, she's a Phoenix native, right?

I do think she's from Arizona. She's Omaha, Nebraska. Born in Nebraska. Damn. Oh yeah. You go crazy. Nebraska. I feel like she was born.

She was born. Rolling Dolo from state to state. The man in Nebraska. Family moved to peasants in Cal. She was raised Catholic, so, you know. Yeah, that's fine. I knew she grew up in Cali for sure. I always thought she was from Arizona.

I just feel like one cheerleading trophy doesn't let you cheat with DeWay. One cheerleading. Like a fictional cheerleading. He has a fictional cheerleading. He has a lot. trophies without LeBron. You had to like let the other cheerleading squad fuck up and get caught cheating for you to win.

It's very hard to me. They moved to Pasadena pretty young and her child. It's told in here. Where she went to high school. Everyone knows that. All right, so let's let's open this up since it's supposed to be. No, that's what she did. That's pleasant.

So do you guys think that if you were married to a woman and she was paying all the bills, if she had a slip up, would you forgive her? If I was married to a woman. If you were a housewife, a house husband. We've had this conversation. Yeah, you guys say that. And I was paying all the bills?

No, she was paying all the bills. Would she be able to cheat on me? No. If she had a slip-up, would you forgive her? A slip-up? If she cheated on you. A slip-up sounds like a really big... Why do we keep polishing these words?

She cheated on you. Yeah, how much money is she got? She got some money. You ain't paying nothing? Oprah? How much money she got? You still got on them Louis Vee, death fools and shit? No, let's say Gab Union money.

Sure. Gab union money? Successful little actress. I don't like that little on that successful actress. A little slip up. Well, because she's black. Yeah, he doesn't like that. That's why I had to cry.

I don't like that little. You know how he feels about black woman now. She was Columbia. She would have been second. She'd have been a big actress. She'd have been a big actress. The biggest. She's a big time A-lister.

Julie was definitely looking at Kirsten Dunstir and bring it on. I mean, look, she played the love interest in Spine. She's the star. I think if Gabrielle Union cheated on me if I was married to Gabrielle, I don't know, man. It's hard to just look your girl in the field. knowing that another dude. How does she smile at you like this while she had her lips on some other niggas dick like 10 minutes ago?

Yeah, that's, I don't know. I'm not buying that. Get the fuck out of my house. I mean, you let us let us know. It happened to you last week. But get out of my house. Fair. But it's not your house if you would get rid.

I'll leave. I'll figure it out. Okay. I'm out. So you'll not letting her cheat on me now. You'll get a job. Because you give her the pass and then what? She's comfortable.

She'll probably do it again. Oh, yeah. You give somebody to, like, oh, our love is stronger than this. We'll survive. Y'all are making her out to be the bad guy? She is. No, no, no.

But she also said her ex-husband who wasn't paying the bills was cheating. So she was paying bills and cheating. He wasn't paying bills and cheating. He has a more fucked up person than this. He has focus issues. He has focus. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.

Who's the most fucked up person? He can't focus on those. I'm not saying you, DeMaris, but most women now are saying that men should be paying all the bills. So wouldn't that make all those girls are the fucked up people? They want a soft life.

Yeah. What if I want a soft life? I just want to wake up and go to yoga and drink a matcha. Yeah. And then go back home and then... Tamara's loving that right now. You know this, right? I kind of did that this morning.

Drink a matcha and go get a massage at three. And then go to the mall and find these shoes that I've been wanting so bad. And then walk past the food court and go to Cineabon and get Auntie Ann Pretzel. Is this? But I can't get no side pushing. Right? And I can't get no side pushing. Okay, women want the NFL athlete, right?

I get it. I understand it. But typically their careers last until they're hopefully 34. A lot of life after that You got CTE You're all fucked up If you don't get the journalism job Six years from now

I won't be able to wipe my own ass A lot of them A lot of them didn't They went straight to the league After like their junior year They didn't even finish college So yeah He might be down on his luck

For a little bit But you was loving it when he was on the field I thought love He's supposed to support him No You got focus issues now Slipp up Can't focus

How he got CTE and can focus And you can't Damn On 2020 You know what? Bring it on. You want a fictional trope? He's with flex now, so it's okay.

He's literally training. He almost out of here. By the way, I also did not know she was married at one point. To some NFL too. Yeah, me either. Wait, so Dewey had really had a baby with her on the side? I don't know about that. I don't know where him and Gabby were at in that relationship.

Bro, she wrote about it in her book and everything. Oh, yeah, he read the book in. So you know more to me, DeMars. I'm leaning on that. They were on a break. They were on a break. They were on a break. Well, so were Rachel and Russ.

Wait, wait. Did Demaris just sighed like she wasn't the same person. Yo, don't do it. Don't do it. That said that the girl you were with felt that maybe you weren't paying attention to her enough and that she was single and that she could do what she wanted on the last day. She thought you were about to come for her. I was supposed to be consistent. Yeah.

But whenever it has to do with them doing that shit, that's when they're going to use it. But when it's like, nah, but what about the dude doing it? And it's like, oh, nah, that's fucked up. It was on a break. Yeah, they was on a break, Maris. You didn't put that in there. You read the book. You didn't tell me about the break.

It was the marriage. You guys were on a break. Tell us about that chapter. Yeah. Anywho. No, the book's closed. I love Gabby Union. Let me just say that.

Gabriel Union is, I think she's dope. I mean, it is what it is. I don't care about. She does seem great. Her cheating. Yeah. I love Gabrielle Union. Same.

Watch your mouth, Julian. All right? I like her. I like Gabriele Union. Black Queen. Black Queen. She's how he's thuddered, though? Princess.

He heard him to call a black woman a queen. It's like, ugh. Taste of my mouth. Is Gabby allowed to get a mad at dude for cheating back? It depends who did it first. I think at that point their whole thing was so toxic and money that they were on their way out. Let's say it's not. Let's say Gabby was, she just couldn't focus because she had too many scripts to read and his ACL just wasn't coming back.

And he was like, let me just go get some pussy because I don't feel seen at home and someone will actually care about me. So let me go get some side pussy. Justifiable. Yeah, but that's just... Is she allowed to get mad? Because she was already unfocused sucking dick. Yeah, but...

Unfocused. Yeah, but it helps her remember the lines. For sure. It helps her remember how much her marriage means to her when she sucks. Dix on the side. I know. She fucked him because...

You ain't going to... You know what? Yeah, what? What do you mean? You ain't going to hold me? Hold me what? You think that that's okay for a woman to fucking suck dick on the side of her marriage?

Do you think that's fine? No. So what? What? What? What? What? What?

No, because you said I ain't going to hold you. What does that mean? I ain't going to hold you. Yo, I just said that I could, what you was saying? It was spitting some shit. I was agreeing with you. No, you were spitting some shit. You were a lying ass.

You're spitting on some shit. Hmm. Oh, man. You're spitting some shit, ma'am. See, this is the problem. People get married and they don't really want to be, like, committed to each other. Yeah, they don't want to be married. They just get married to say, okay.

Just to say they got married. They want to want to try the motions of life. You just want to feel like you're fulfilling your life's duty. That has to be the worst. That has to be the worst thing to do, though. Doing myself. Like getting married and knowing that you don't want to be with this person is like... Edin.

Why would you do that to yourself? Well, you wouldn't get married and know that you don't want to be. You probably in the moment thought that you wanted to be with that person. I know some people that have gotten married and did not want to get married. Thought marriage would save the relationship, which is a weird concept. Yeah, I know. The hell married baby. That always works.

Yeah. The hell married baby. This will save us. This will save us. This will say nutting you. Yeah, you're trying to leave it. He trap you. Why is that the nuts?

We will have a common goal. That's when you make that sound with you got, let me get it all in there. He was like, oh, now you're pregnant. We're going to fight more with this. I'm just going to let you know. At least 18 years of trauma.

That's a fucked up position to be in, man. Which one? Well, all of them. But having a baby with somebody that you know, you don't want to be with? I think that does happen so often than we. That's way often. I think the travesty is when you think it will save your relationship.

Because I think if you have somebody that you both have an understanding that we could co-parent. It's never no understanding, bro. Well, of course. When they be like, no, we got to understand it. No, it's not. Once that baby is here. What's wrong, Julian?

And once it comes down time, are you crying? No. Okay, I'm sorry. No, that's a little rap. Because he came in her the first night, and he thought that was the one. Yeah.

I kissed that midnight, bro. Did you come and her? No, I'd never do that. No, I'm not. Like on her back? I mean, pull-out game, sometimes doesn't work. Mine's fine.

What if you got a strong? pre-cum. It hasn't You can't tell him, man. Strong pre-cum. We already talked about if you were a pre-cum baby, I know you was

Oh, for sure. You were premature. You got to be born premature. You got weak knees. Yeah. And a wobbly neck. Okay. If she did come to you,

it's boneless. You would let Gabby cheat on you. And take her back. You'll pick up from his house. If she does come back and say, hey, you know. Don't even. Yeah.

Okay. Would you say, well, was it the dude? You would have to blame another guy. Oh, it's Fabio. Hey, because he looks like a Fabio. Yeah. You just want to know if it's that dude or not at this point. I don't.

Oh, I would, I mean. For entertainment, for the pod. Yeah. Yeah. Let me see this guy. Rory. Let me pull it up. I want to know what he DM'd Rory.

I want to know too. Probably like, hey, man, let's work. Yeah. In 2019. Oh, you can't read it? No, he like deleted it, I guess, or something. He definitely. Oh, no, he probably responded to your story or something.

Yeah. Oh, yeah. That's probably what it was. No, but it said sent you a met. It wouldn't it specify replied your story? Yeah, but you could tag somebody and then it's like a request. Yeah. And you can accept it and you share it.

And what was his name? What was his name? You know his name. Say his name, Julian. Voldemort. This is the gentleman here. By the way Julian was describing the guy, this does look like, you know. Let me see if I will be.

a big, oh, he's an attractive too. He's got wavy hair. He got strong his arms. Yeah. He looks like he wears little lemon on he on you over. He'd hold you tight. Okay, you know what? He looks like he loved eating pussy. What the fuck is wrong with the marriage? What is that? Okay. In her defense though, I've

definitely seen a chick be like, she loves sucking dick. So I think we're probably had the same intuition. He looked like he love it. But what like, what look is it that makes a woman feel like he loves eating pussy? Like, what's the look y'all look for? It's just a look. Did he adjust the strap on your Lulu Lemon backpack

because I haven't put it on since. Oh my state-tained loose. You can never put it on and not see his face. It like hits the back of my knees. Oh. It's loose. He definitely had to adjust it for his frame. If he adjusted your book bag straps,

you got to call her back. That's disrespect. He must have. That's disrespect. I mean, he logged like eight hours with it. You don't let nobody readjust your straps, dog. Yeah, do better, King. He got festival wristbands.

Yeah, look at he and VIP. He would love. That's him, bro. That's him. He posted the lanyard. That's hard. And he looks like, he's like racially ambiguous too.

He's mad. He's, he chose him over me. This dude posted the lanyards. He posted his credentials. Oh, come on. He does funny COVID things with dogs. Getting infected.

Just say, no, yeah, that's definitely him. Yeah. That's him. Why did Carlos Boozer like this? He doesn't. He likes it. dogs. Come on, man.

I must say no to Carlos Buzer. Yeah. And he's friends with Carlos Buzer. Yeah, man. Are you friends with Carlos Buzer? No NBA legends on my team. This was four hours ago. Oh, Jewel.

Oh, you hit a fucking, yeah. You was right not to walk up ass for your fucking book bag back back. He put you in the mean. He was like, hey, man. White motherfucking house. That's my bad. Damn, Jewel. It's okay.

It's my Eskimo team, bro. This is my starting five. No, that's your brother right there. You should hang out. My white brother. Yeah, I should hang out. brother. Is Rory and him?

Are we Eskimo brothers? Probably somewhere down the line. Yeah. I got like to be Ascoma brothers somewhere down the line. One day, Maul's going to admit that we are. You and I? At some point. Do you know, are we? No, I have zero idea.

Sorry, Mr. Call. You're trying to put me on the spot again or checking to see if I got well. Got well. I'll say both. Hey. So the last. Last time we spoke, I was like, yo, listen, are you... You're saying names now on the podcast?

No, we'll believe it. We got you. We got you. We got to put you out there. Nobody won't hear your name. Yeah. I'm just, I'm talking to you, so I'm just saying your name, but nobody won't hear your name. So the last time we spoke, I checked in to make sure you were good, you were comfortable, you weren't nervous about coming out.

You know what I mean? I made sure I was going to make sure my guy took care you, made you safe. You know what I mean? And so naturally, I didn't speak to anybody until today. took like a whole phone, social media break, didn't know what happened. So my guy gave me the update today. His story, though. His point of.

Because men, men live. His point of view. Well, we would love to hear your story. He's not here. Okay. So the story that I heard that I was told. No, no, no. I'm telling what he told me, what he told us.

Yeah. Because I was so excited. I was like, how did it go? You know, was she cool? Was there? And his energy was kind of like, I was like, wait, what would happen? So, so he told me, he said, yeah, she came out.

Everything was great, you know, had a good time, had a good time. And, you know, the last day, things got a little sticky. So I was like, I was like, okay. I was like, well, what do you mean by that? Yeah, what do you mean? Yeah. So apparently he had this wonderful dinner reserved. Had dinner reserved, picked out a great table with a great view.

And he was waiting for you all day. He went and worked out. You know what I mean? He made sure he got a good sweating, worked out, you know, some energy and was like, all right, we're going to have a good dinner. And we're going to kick it tonight. And, you know, things happened. And dinner didn't happen because, you know, you were busy.

And then he's going out to pick up food for the both of you. And in his way to pick up food. outside, he says, now I don't believe this because your eyes, I don't believe it. Just looking in your eyes and you don't look like the type of girl that would do that. We thought he was lying for content. So we thought he was just lying just for some salacious content. Yeah. He says that this young man was kissing you.

In front of his building with his backpack on. With his backpack on. I said no way, not Zoom. Is that weird? Are you serious? Yeah, he said you were kissing. Can we get your side of the story? He said you were kissing.

He said you were smooching in the rain. It was so romantic. We don't believe him. I don't believe him. So we need to hear your side. So that's why I said, no, you have to call her. I want to talk to her. I feel like I don't believe him either.

Yeah, I don't believe him. Well, the question is, is like, I... That's not even her. Did he really feel like he was happening? That's what I said. By the way, this is not her. Like, honestly. Okay.

I mean, that's fair, but was she kissing? No, I'm just asking a question. Okay, maybe, maybe, maybe, but was she kidding? He didn't, he wasn't, he wasn't kissing anybody else. Yes, he was at the gym. Was she kissing? And did she lie about the whole day? Okay, that's fair.

I'm just saying, he didn't, he didn't kiss somebody. Okay, we can get past that because he, He said yes. He said yes. He thought everything was going great beforehand. Yeah. He had dinner. He had dinner planned out.

Anyone could have dinner plans. Yeah, but you're not going to make dinner plans. But after four days. You're not going to make dinner plans with somebody you really don't want to be with after four days. And keep moving the reservation. If you can, if someone's staying with you, kind of feel maybe obligated to. Okay. To have dinner?

I'm just asking, honestly. Okay. Okay, fine. Fine. We'll go with that. We'll go with that. Yeah. We'll go with that.

Just so we can get past this terrible excuse. was she smacking sugar with another man in the rain? And did she lie about meeting her home girls and what did she do for seven hours? Who was the gentleman? Someone kissed her. How long was she with his gentleman?

What did they do all day? And why did she bring him back to Julian's residence with his backpack on that gentleman's back? Oh, now it's quiet. But before it was, we got to answer that. Well, I don't want to ask if she wants me to answer. She wants to answer herself. Oh, I would love to hear from her.

Yeah, let's hear from her. Oh, she's driving. So I understand. Yeah, she's driving. So I understand. Got you. Okay. Safety first.

You're only multitask at certain points. 100%. I agree. And I think it's always important for people to take account of both. So do it. All right. Take accountability. I mean, I think that's great and that's mature.

But who was the dude and what happened? Do you want me until you're done driving? She can't talk and drive. She can't talk and drive, but she can walk and kiss. Oh, my gosh. goodness. I was betting on you. How could you? You two made us believe in love. I looked at you in your eyes and you told me you were going to have a great time. She was supposed to be the last first.

Yeah. I thought to take responsibility for the fact that I did do that. Okay. That's big. Yeah, I was shitty. It was disrespectful for sure. Oh, that's sexy. Accountability is sexy. Maul, please. Be free tonight. You can cheat on me. I don't give a fuck. What? I'm just... Can you give us

just a play-by-play of leaving his residence that morning all the way down to the kiss? Can you give us just the timeline of the day? I was saw Julian for split second. I had to find someone.

Went to Central Park. Okay. And I just like stayed for... So this gentleman was someone you knew or he just happened to be at the place you were getting drinks at? Now, did he text you or he just happened to be at the spot? No, they linked.

What was the text? Oh, so he was one of the friends. So he was the friend that text you that they're going to drink. It was like him and a group of friends. Like a group of friends. Gotcha. Him and a group of friends. Oh, okay.

So once the drinks were done, he just walked you back to Julian's place. What happened after the drinks? How did it end up just being you and him? He was really into my backpack. How did it end up just being the two of the three of, y'all on a walk? When the group split up, what happened? You walked me back.

I just had like, way too many drinks. If I'm being honest. Have you slept with this gentleman before? So many drinks. Thirsty? Throw a little dry. That's just weird that you drank right at that moment. You guys are literally, she's like the worst on the spot.

The worst liar. No, we appreciate you. I appreciate it. Listen, I only called. I only called because I was like... Don't try to analyze her when she's put on the spot. I'm not analyzing, and I appreciate you being a good friend. I will ask, did you tell dude that he was walking you back to a guy's spot, or did you say it was your home girl's spot?

Oh, he's gangster. Oh, he's gangstead. He knew you were walking to a male school time? In the York City, so that she was going to be a guy's place, would you guys not try to do the same thing? Oh, we have nothing against him at all. He didn't do anything wrong at all. It's all the drinks. It's all the drinks fault. Well, no.

If she was too sloppy drunk, no, I wouldn't have tried. But we're not mad at him. He didn't do anything wrong. Yeah, I'm not walking. I'm not walking to a guy's house, though. So what does this guy do for a living? Oh, my God. Let's not get too tied up on this.

No, I just want to know the type of guy is now I'm invested in that relationship. I was invested in her and Julian. Now you guys are being a little too much. Okay, all right. We don't have to do that. I'll ask. When she got upstairs, since you're saying she's not good on the spot, what was the lie going to be that she was doing all day? If Julian didn't find out and say, yo, get out the crew, what would you have said you were doing?

What's the question? Who says that she would have lied? She did lie. Do you want to talk about this? And like, do you want to hear what happened? And he said, no, get out. So she probably would have talked about it, said what happened. Because I caught her.

I apologize. Same thing she did afterwards. What the fuck is wrong with people? I don't know what would have happened after that. Without getting to too much detail, where did she end up staying? Because we do care about her safety. Where did she go with her things? Well, obviously, his place, that's the only other, like, is that so funny?

Where would she supposed to say? I'm not laughing. They're immature behind us. I don't know what's going on. My bet was I just lost money. I said she got a hotel. I would probably do the same thing. Did she tell, dude, the story?

Yes. For real? What did he say? She's not a liar. We're not saying that. that. You keep bringing that up. What did the dude say once she told him that story, when she got to his story? What did he say? When he told him the story?

He was probably like, good. I told you to stay here in the first place. Yeah. He definitely said that. This is home anyway. I mean, I know the answer because you guys have already had a previous physical relationship. Did you beat that night? Oh, my God. You guys are being annoying. 1,000 percent. No, it's not 1,000.

I lost money on the hotel. I don't know where to like stop asking questions just because it's on your podcast. No, I just want to listen. You guys don't be disrespectful either. Oh, you don't have to answer. I didn't disrespect any. Listen, I was just invested because I thought they were going to have a great time. Okay, well, don't be too invested.

And the fact that it ended the way it did, it was like. Yeah, it sucks. Now I'm bummed because Adam gets to come on there and sit with you guys on the podcast. You are more than welcome. Were you crazy? No, you can still come. You can stay with them all. You just can't leave the house to meet somebody else.

Yeah, you can't let another guy wear my Louis book bag. That's the one thing. Like, you can go hang out, but don't let him wear my book bag. Don't let him do that. Please don't let a guy with my book bag. Please don't let him do that. You can use my book bag, but don't let him wear it. Please don't let him wear my book bag.

All right, cool. If you're going to take anything away from anything, never let someone else wear your book bag. Never. Never let some. somebody wear the book bag. Jesus Christ. You can kiss, but don't let him, don't kiss him with my book bag on.

Did she ever invite Julian to drinks with the friends? Like Julian likes drinks and friends. Why wasn't he invited to the link up? Back to like, right. This question for you. Listen, I know the answer.

I think, do you want me to answer? It just goes back to like how she was feeling about. Their situation. Understand. Which again, isn't like unexcused.

Well, let's not end on a bad note here. What were some of the good things that happened over the last four days with her and Julian? Like, what things did she like? Wait on this call. Not many, huh? Lost for words. New Year's Eve kiss wasn't good. He cooked salmon with Italian seasoning.

Brussels. You know how hard it is to, like, like get Brussels sprouts burned like the right amount of burn on it. I know. Do you know? Still soft at the same time. Yeah, that's like that's that takes.

Does Julian want to say anything? Does you want to talk about how you left my girl on the streets? She found a home. I don't know. I'm cool. Yeah, let's talk about how you left her on the streets was. I was so freaking worried.

Oh my God. Let me tell you how mad I was. Let me tell you how shocked I was when I received the news about what happened today. That's the only reason we're on this phone right now. I was like, there's no way. I thought it was just going to be a wonderful story, a great time. It is a wonderful story. You guys got a good story.

No, I didn't want this story. The last we heard, he was waiting at baggage claim in Amtrak, which I didn't even know existed. So we thought it was off to a great fucking start. Yeah, I was like, what a gentleman this guy is. Yeah, Julie. Should we give these two loved birds a second shot? I think so. I think everyone's allowed to make a mistake and everyone's allowed to recover from a mistake.

Law hang up. Can we real quick talk about his response to her very mature text? What was the response? Which one of you guys actually came up with that response? Or was it? No, it was him. He just found all this out. He got a great pen. No need help. Yeah, get well, because maybe he felt like she was a little intoxicated. And hung over. Yeah. Listen, I just want you to know that. All right, what do you think was crazier? What she did at the front door of his house or my response? Or his response. You're not, you don't need to compare the two. I think everyone should just try to be the best. best version of themselves, not like stoop down to anything.

Can we hang up, bro? Be the best. You are a fucking PR friends. Johnny Cochran over here. Are you in public relations? 2023. Fucking Johnny Cochran over here. Everyone should live their lives.

Be the, like, live their lives. Just because I'm upset about like what she did. What if he was really hurt? That's not fun, but you should always try to be the bigger person. Listen, let me tell you something. It's always the man's fault. Let me tell you something that I didn't, I don't think Julian. But they weren't.

But they weren't. Demaris, but they weren't. Let's talk about what actually happened. Let's talk about what literally happened. I'm going to tell you something that Julian doesn't want me to... But I'm going to say it anyway. I don't even want to know what he's about to say. He cried. He cried.

Let me hear from Julian. Let me see his face. Let him tell his face. Julian? I have nothing to say. He cried. I said what I wanted to say. He's so heartbroken.

I'm telling you. He cried. I didn't hear what he said. He said, I don't have nothing to say because. it really was fucked up and I'm mad that it happened. I'm being so mature right now guys. She's definitely very mad that it happened too.

She's mad that it happened? Hold on. Yeah, she's mad at herself that it happened. She went to his house after she left Julia. How mad would she? No, actually though, like what do you expect? Like, not everybody can just do that and not everybody knows what to do in a

situation like that. Especially glad she could pivot. Glad he was in her. Yeah, I understand. You call the person that you know in the city. Yeah, I understand. Like, that's like the easiest thing to do. Yeah, I understand. But what happened to happen?

I was just, I was just hoping for like a, I thought that she was going to still be in New York. That's what I was waiting here. I was like, oh, she's still here. She went back home. You guys want to fly us out? I'll come too. Julian got it. We can all have, we can all have a sit down.

We can have a gang bang. We do, we do Amtrak only. Okay. So, yeah, so we're going to make that happen. That's what's going to happen. We're going to all be together and we're going to all sit and talk about this situation and we're going to get to the bottom of this. Basically. All right?

Yeah. Can we bring, can we bring Ellie to? No, we haven't gotten to the bottom of yet. We know what happened, but I want to know why it happened. We know what happened. Yeah. But I want to know, I want to know why it happened. I didn't do anything. She wanted to. Are we allowed to bring Ellie to? Who's Ellie? Okay, never mind. It's not Ellie. Who's Ellie? Oh, you're trying to see the guy's name or whatever. Oh, is it pronounced it differently? L.I. Yeah, it was a nice guy.

God, wait, what? Your knight in shining armor. I think a random permission. Okay. Oh. Tried to catch you. Oh.

Oh, so that was a, Ellie's a random guy? He just spent the description. I like it. No, I'm not. Listen, I just cannot wait for us all to get in one of room and kumbaya. We're going to all sit Indian style. Can we say that?

Can we say that? I think we can't stand. I'm sorry. Indigenous people style. Yeah. We're going to sit indigenous people style. That's fuck. And talk about our issues and talk about why this happened.

Yeah. And how to avoid it from happening again. I like that. I think that's productive. I agree. I love being productive. Yeah. This is 2020 me you're talking to.

Productive. All these trigger buzzwords. 2023, you're, what you say? He said all these 2023 buzzwords. Yeah. Well, those are just every day those words. Mm. Every year.

Yeah, well, yeah. Well, I just want you to know that I'm glad that she. made it back safe. I hope that she had a great time in New York City. We hope to see both of you soon. Let's make it happen. Let's get you guys back to New York City so we can have a lot of fun. Yeah. I'm so down. We'll call it drinks with friends. Yeah. The name of that episode will be drinks with friends. Oh yeah. Yeah. We can all get super hammered in like. And make great decisions again. It's safe environment. Everyone bring the backpacks. But do not let anybody wear my backpack, please. Never.

It's a backpack party. I cannot understand. I hope to see you soon. Drive safe ladies. And please, we're going to make it happen because we do want to sit y'all all down in the same room and talk. All right.

I hope you to do that. No, absolutely. It's going to happen. We're going to make it happen. Bye, Julian. Get well soon. You can't hit it with his line. Don't do that.

Take that as a win. You know that cut deep. Clearly that. You know that comes deep. Don't do that. We're not doing that. Don't tell them get well soon. All right.

Talk about a good, talk about a good PR friend. She was good, especially with shitty service. It's hard to catch her with timing. Yeah. Oh, man. That's a good PR for.

All right, Chapman's closed. Hold on one second. No, no, no. Let's come on. Julian, let's react to that conversation, Julian especially. Don't say her name anymore, please.

No, we're good. Yeah, we'll save you some bleeps. Thank you. Sorry. No, I mean, it's just, they're just lie, full of shit. What did she lie about? When is it too, when is the, I had too much a drink? When is that not a viable excuse?

Like, it's bullshit. We're all adults. I don't know. There's how many of adults are us, I can't do math. There's a lot of us in the room. There's six people. Six of us in this room. Has that, is that really a legit excuse ever in your life?

No. No. It can be a reason, but it can not be an excuse. Because you're an adult fucking handle. Yeah. Handle your fucking adult. But what do you think they lied about? I don't think they said anything different than your story.

The only thing they added in was what Damara said. I knew that that was it from the jump, though. That she felt. I knew they fucked homeboy. Like, I knew that they had a thing. Yeah, we're not that.

We're not that. She admitted that she'd fucked him before. About you about how. Well, he was like, well, how do you think he made her feel? That's what I was going to tell you. She was going to hit you with the, you probably made her feel like shit.

And it was obvious you were annoyed with her. Again, that's not something we can even, that's not quantifiable. Like, that's subjective. So even, with that being said.

Well, now you're using buzziness here. That's saying that's not something that's a unit of measurement. We can't, that can be proven neither true nor false. Let's talk about what actually happened. Why is that even being brought up

when the very thing, the action that she took, the thing that happened is now getting deflected and mixed up into, well, how do you make her feel? Why is she fucking making out and trying to fuck another guy while she's saying in my apartment?

Why do we keep moving the goalposts and deflecting to other things that have nothing to do with what she did? I agree. I housed her. I cooked for her. I let her still.

Like, what more do I need to do? Get her shit off. No, dead ass though. Like, what the fuck more do I need to do? Tell me. Subscribe to the Patreon so you can fucking respond and let me know what more I could have done. Get the fuck out of my apartment. Yeah.

What the fuck? What are you talking about? How do you make her feel? If you really didn't feel that great, get a hotel. She could have gotten in a hotel. Let's be real. Leave. Get the fuck out.

I don't know. Her friend was suggesting that everyone at the drop of a dime could just get a hotel room, especially in January around. Yeah. So you got to go. suck some old dick and go stay with him for the night. Now we're getting personal. I'm just saying like why am I, why are they trying to like deflect by any means own it?

You're an adult. You can't have to. That was the first thing she said. She didn't fucking say a word. She had a home girl her PR talk for the entire call. She was great PR. Say something. She almost convinced me.

Say something. They know what Julian is an asshole. I was like, you know what? They could work through this. Say something. Like you know what she's not wrong. I'm driving. That lady went through a lot.

So do you believe that she linked friends. for drinks. He was there and he walked her back. No, they linked. I don't believe that. I don't believe that. I believe they linked. Yep. Maybe he had some other guy friends there. I don't care. The intention was to see him. The whole time. Yes. You're in New York. You're my Miami girl.

You happen to be in New York. I miss that. We used to hook up. I don't know how they used to you know how long or whatever the case. Maybe I don't care about the details, but they have the history. He wanted that again. She wanted that again. Do you think that if you guys were lovey-dovey like all over each other and like it was very obvious that you were like really really really

really into her this entire time do you think that she was still linked to we literally spent the first two full like the first 48 we were together the entire to the first 48 yeah we were together every minute like she had no opportunity to like oh suck some dick or anything but i'm not talking what you guys together i'm talking about the vibe it was agreed upon fuck the vibe it was agreed upon the third day that hey i'm going to go out and study from a coffee shop and i was like cool, do your thing. I'm going to take us out of an opportunity to go to the gym and play ball

and have some me time as well. It was mutually agreed upon that we needed time apart. It was also agreed upon in the afternoon that we would have dinner together at eight. So like where did the whole... But do you think... What did I do wrong?

I was like, yo, let's have our days apart. But at the same time, I'll take care of dinner later in the night. Do your thing. See your girls. I was under the present... I think she's trying to say that the vibe was like you didn't...

What were in marriage counseling? like I'm as a host I am letting her have her day with her girls I'm having my day as a normal day that I'm not talking about that day I'm talking about the days before that that's what's what's wrong. Julian is smarter than this. No he's no no I think Julian is just saying why would that matter why would you're staying in my career thank you I understand what you're saying and I'm with you I'm just saying that she probably felt like after you had sex you kind of felt a little disinterested like she was in your space a girl can tell when you don't fucking like her but then but then my thing would be All right, which is it? I was a dickhead or you were drunk? Both can be true. Both can be true. What she want to get exit?

And you could be a drunk. What does she want like an exit survey? I'm not going to read her mind. If you really thought that way, talk to me. Talk to me about it. She didn't fucking say anything about it. It all became a conversation after she got caught. It's the fucking, it's the old, I fucked up.

Oh, let's grasp it this. She had nothing to say before she got caught. If that was an easier conversation without her PR friend and bad service, I would have asked her, had the weekend. gone well and you are drunk, would you still have done that? Or if the weekend was shitty and you weren't drunk, would you have done it? Because I want to know what you was. I think she wanted to see that guy.

I think she freed up her day, which is fine. Do your thing. But I think she've wanted to free up her day so she could see that guy. I think he convinced her. 100%. I don't think it took much convincing. But I also think that had the vibe been different, had you really, really, really, really liked her because women can tell that.

I don't think she would think. Oh, I'm sorry. I don't believe that one bit. My bad. My bad. I'm sure she's... I didn't say you were wrong for it. All I'm saying is, that might be why.

happened. It doesn't make her any less wrong or any less I think she was trying to do it no matter of. If you're trying to figure some shit out, I think that that's But that's the first thing she brought up. Because it's the old thing. When you get caught, well, how can I not make this all my fault? Let me figure something else out that makes him have some guilt or a mission. I did nothing. I didn't do anything. You fucked up. You didn't do enough. That's what she's saying. You didn't do enough. I should ask her

sign. I don't even know her sign. I was not actually what her sign was. Well, all right. I know you, you would openly. given Jim and I. You didn't enjoy the experience. I don't know. That's the kind of sad. I really didn't. Were you giving that off though?

Pull up her Instagram. But it really had nothing to do with her as a person. It's really just me finding out more about myself in the sense that I really like to be alone and I really value my time alone in my apartment. Yeah. So it could have been anyone. Like it could have been. Express that to her.

Right. You got to communicate Julian. Oh, that's right. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Come on, dog. Julian, you literally said had had it, that not happened, you probably would have never wanted to

see her again anyway. No, I never said that. I don't, I don't, I think you're lying there. I did not say that. It's, we literally have, I think I said I would see her. I wouldn't do four days. I said if she happened to be in New York, we could like probably do what Homeboy did. Yo, let's get some drinks. Maybe we fuck. Like, I would have done that. Totally. Give me like a smooth four hours with her. Cool. Yeah, four hours. Yeah. That's a lot. That's a lot. That's a lot. That's a more appropriate time frame. But you didn't like her like her like that. I don't like anyone like that, bro. I don't like anyone like that. Yeah. There's plenty of girls. That's what she said out for.

Four hours is fantastic. That's how much time I think you should really just spend with people. To be quite honest. No more than four hours. No more than four hours. Yeah, no more than four hours. That's what I'm learning from you.

You committed to four days. She's learning. That's your fault. To wrap this up, you were listening and not replying during that entire thing. Is there anything you want to address specifically that the friend said during that? That you felt was big cat.

I don't care what the friend says at all. She wasn't there. She's nothing. to do with this. Speak for yourself. You fucked up. You made the mistakes.

Own it. Speak for yourself. Like, I don't get the whole friend being in here. Also, she's getting a secondhand version of what happened. Honest with what happened? She probably framed me as like this monster. To be honest, there wasn't much of a different story there. No.

But her friend was quick to push ownership on me. I didn't do anything. I was home. I was to stay at home. She was just trying to put it in her perspective. I literally did nothing. You know, what I think Shorty is not probably admitting.

She probably, the same way that you were like kind of tired of her, she was probably disappointed in you too. Fine. And I'm not saying, nope, I'm not saying anything like that that's anything bad about shoes. What I'm saying is she keeps trying to make it out to seem like, oh. Damaris didn't do this to you.

Yeah. Right. Like, what the fuck? Blashing out because I'm comfortable. Go ahead, DeMaris. I'm sorry. He's like, um, she's like, oh, did he talk about what he did? And what she doesn't understand is that Julian was just being Julian. So what she needs to comprehend is that she didn't like Julian. Who she thought Julian was, it's not who Julian was.

She didn't like Julian. The vibe wasn't good the same way that Julian was tired of her ass to, and she was ready to, you know what I'm saying? But don't push that out on Julian being an asshole. You signed up to beat, well, Julian is an asshole. But what I'm saying is, that's why you shouldn't sign up to stay with somebody for four fucking days because you don't even know that they're a dickhead because you don't know them. Not a dickhead.

I think that honestly, and this is just me how I really feel about this old situation. I feel like if Trump was president, this wouldn't have happened. All right. Let's go. It felt too. This is a little, this is a little democratic. Yeah, yeah. Let's just go.

It felt like Kamala would have been like, you know, collaborate, live your life. Yeah. Yeah, Kamala, Kamala definitely told her to live her life. Well,

listen, you know I have not heard a word from Kamala since we did it, Joe? Dead ass, bro. None of us have. What are the last time you heard her talk? Country's going to shit. Don't hope of these.

But I would like to say that hopefully one day we will get them on to do a patron. I think that would be great. Well, I'm telling you now, we have enough funds, but I'm not flying into it.

I'm not finding a lot. Julian? This is me you told to. Of course not. I'm going to use that discount. But hopefully one day we can't sit them down and talk to them and I'll have a conversation because I think it would be great just to finally get to the bottom of why it happened. Not what happened.

Would you say DeMaris, B.YO.B? BYOB. BYOB, bring your own book back. I thought she was about say bring your own bitches. Yeah. Because there was not, I wanted to get to a lot on that call, but I could tell. Her PR team was not having it. Her team was doing it.

She did a good job. Plus, she was fake. fake driving and didn't want to talk. Is not a real car? She was parked. Yeah, it's just parked. No, they ended up in a parking garage at one point. She was parked.

She wasn't really driving. But either way, we got to get to the Y. But I mean, shout out to her because she had a double header. She did. She did. No, no, no. Wait, did we hugged that morning?

We might have. Damn. Good for her. Good for her. No chance to shower in between, unless she pulled up and was like, hey, I got to scrub out my mistakes. Look at her, man.

My mistakes. Nice to want. Well, part two, well, part three now of this will be Julian's STD results. No, that is a fact. He naturally went to go get checked as he fucking should have. Subscribe. Subscribe to Patreon. If you haven't. I got my blood drawn yesterday.

We'll get Julian's STD results. I'm just holding the $20. Hopefully he's clean. Hopefully everything is good. Just the photo of the results on the $20 tier. Yeah. Just the photo of the results. Yeah.

But we'll be back in a couple days. In our close friends. You will see his results in a close friend. This is Julian like, we'll be back in a couple of days. Y'all be good, be safe. Happy New Year's. I'm that nigga. He's just ginger.

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