New Rory & MAL - Episode 147 | I Felt Eczema, I Turned The Light On

Episode Date: March 3, 2023

Happy Friday…remember pimp my ride? BLM is officially over, but not before we wish Julian’s dad a happy 72nd bday! St. Patrick’s Day is next, which means it’s time to celebrate the white man, ...Rory. Today we start with music…more importantly Dreamvillefest. Ultimately, as most music conversations do, this becomes a Drake discussion. Will Drake retire and who is the next superstar? Somehow this leads to a discussion about Angelina Jolie’s attempt to hire a hitman. *trigger warning* Is Michael B. Jordan corny? Is Pete Davidson dating Ice Spice? Tune in as the guys discuss all of this + more! P.S. We’re releasing a full patreon today which is absurd in many ways. Subscribe now! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoicesSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This is an I-Heart podcast. Guaranteed Human. The first boom is maybe like walking into the kitchen and finding like the knife in the middle of the cake. That's got to be like the first one. That's the breadcrumbs and flour too. Yeah, like this bitch is crazy. She goes to take a shower and she comes out fully dressed. It's like, yo, you got dressed in the bathroom.
Starting point is 00:00:19 That was a very specific. That was very specific. Yeah, that's crazy, right? If you see a girl going to the bathroom and take a shower and she comes out fully dressed, like this bitch is crazy. Wait, why? Or she got a rash. A rash. No, we're not doing
Starting point is 00:00:31 A rash We're not doing the rash You're not gonna tell me You got dressed If I feel eczema Turn the lights on If I feel exima Turn the lights on my
Starting point is 00:00:41 You know You're not about to just pop Exima up on me In the middle of sex my nigga Like if I'm rubbing on you No worry and my Got a hue blow I call it T-bow
Starting point is 00:00:49 I strap that bitch With a Gator band Y'all niggas ball Hack time Y'all niggas Like the Gator ban Y'all niggas need a time out Who got these niggas all wind up
Starting point is 00:00:58 Pop-sucker I'm 73030 Y'all know we y'all niggas gonna wind up. No, Mr. Nice guy. Hello, Mr. Nice watch. Welcome to a new, new, new, new year episode of the new Rory Moll podcast. Did you just say the new N-word? I said the new N-word.
Starting point is 00:01:11 I'm sorry, I apologize. Welcome to a new episode of New Rory and Moll podcast. I am all. I'm Rory. And we are back to talk to you beautiful people. Good morning, good afternoon, good night, depending on where you are in the world. Yes. Hopefully you had your bacon, egg, and cheese, your green tea, your camamil,
Starting point is 00:01:27 whatever you're eating or drinking on your way to work. to go make the white man rich, Rory. Not right. We got to get up every morning. Off to the races. Got to get up every morning to make the white man rich. Pork and white men.
Starting point is 00:01:38 Then you go. That's our intro. Got to start your day with swine and divine. How you guys doing? Y'all look good. Y'all look good. Julian, you look good. Had a good.
Starting point is 00:01:45 Extra moose in the hair. What's that gorilla snout? I know that gorilla snout. Come on. I'm from uptown. I'm from uptown. I'm not too much. I'm not from those places.
Starting point is 00:01:54 Yeah. Same thing. It sounds racist. But go ahead. The real snout. I use garrula snob. You don't know about guerrilla snob? I use gorilla snob.
Starting point is 00:02:00 You do? You do? Yeah. Who named that? What you mean? Like who approved that name? Because it was like guerilla glue was like a strong form of glue. I'm aware of you.
Starting point is 00:02:07 So the gorilla people, they made gorilla snout of the hair. Who are guerrilla people? It's not the same people. They're not the same. Wait, you're about to tell me that the gorilla glue people are also in hair products? No. Absolutely. On to the market.
Starting point is 00:02:18 Speaking of price. No, that's how that girl fucked her hair up. Guerrillas, moose is. I can't keep up. Speaking of product. Can we talk about how Demaris has a Fiji bottle filled with wine? Why does you do that? This isn't wine.
Starting point is 00:02:30 This is my brain juice. Brain juice? Explain further. Yeah, let's talk about this brain juice. Brain juice is my favorite kind of juice. You gotta have a good cup of brain juice. I have fucking 88 juice. When she has that brain juice?
Starting point is 00:02:40 My brain like focus. Yeah. What's in the brain juice that helps you focus? Wine. It's not wine. Savi en Blunt. What is that? Barefoot?
Starting point is 00:02:50 Barefoot. Barefoot brain juice. Barefoot moscato. Barefoot brain juice. clap, La Clapp, Bravo. Y'all really think so little of me. Oh, man, this is the craziest bunch of
Starting point is 00:03:00 in podcasting, bro. I promise you it is. How are y'all feeling? Are you good? Yomi, you good? I love Yomi's energy. She's just like a fly on the wall. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:08 She's just like here hanging out. Just like whatever. I'm capturing the moment. Eddie, how are you doing, man? You look good. You look good. Thank you, man. I saw a flyer you have.
Starting point is 00:03:18 Can we put it in the lower third? Can we insert the fly? It's not a flyer. Edith, I just want to let you know, I support you. And one day. I am going to pull up to one of your parties. It's not a flyer.
Starting point is 00:03:27 It is a flyer. It's a motion graphic about a mix I did for heavy hits on comics. It's an experience. It's not a flyer. Not a plug. That was a fucking nasty plug. Sorry I have something to plug. It's called a motion graphic.
Starting point is 00:03:37 Is that what it's called? Motion graphic, yeah. Motion graphic. There it is. I'm scrolling through Instagram and I saw motion. I saw two Edens. I thought Edd was debut and his twin brother to the world. Shout to Shuler for making this.
Starting point is 00:03:49 And I'm like, oh, this is Edding, but like, two different looks. Yeah. This is like his sophisticated. I mean business What? And then he has his t-shirt. It's not a quarter right button up?
Starting point is 00:03:58 Like get you a man that can do both. Yeah, that's what that is. Certified Lomo boy. This is a, this is a, what are you doing here? Is this a show or a podcast? So I used to work for this record pool called heavy hits.com. Shout to them. And I did an exclusive mix for them.
Starting point is 00:04:14 That's available on Mix Cloud right now. This looks like you're about to pimps someone drive. Look at Loyon's comment. So what? Fire emojis. Oh my God. Thank you, Loyon. I appreciate it.
Starting point is 00:04:22 Got to hit Julian though. He looks like he's about to pimp someone's ride You didn't hear Edin I did an exclusive mix The one and only available So this warranted like yo you get one Eddn But that's just not enough Is this the mix? Are they mixing you?
Starting point is 00:04:39 They're mixing me. This is you on the turntable That's me going round and round and round Oh my God Edith I just love you man I just I look forward to seeing Eddard I just love Edna so much I just love Ediths you hate the quarter of I hate that shit
Starting point is 00:04:50 Hate is a strong word You hate what His quarteroy button up No, that's what he's supposed to wear. That's the swag. Yeah. That's his swag. That's just, you know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:04:57 That's how he coming into the party and he'd take that off, show you the t-shirt under it, and that means he's getting into the full mix. It's party time. You want to know what the t-shirt says? What does it say? Kind of hate it. This is one of one. This is one of one. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:10 There's two of me. One of two. Oh, God. Did you choose both those images? No. Well, actually, yeah, the one with the, yeah, with the hated button down. Yeah. Do you have like a folder that's like just for flyers?
Starting point is 00:05:22 I do. Of course you do. Don't you? Did you send notes on this? No, let it rotate a little faster. No, he just said that to me this morning. I was like, fuck it. He was like, let it put it out.
Starting point is 00:05:32 Yeah. And you pick that, that aesthetic, that color, the pink. No, no, it goes with the rest of his page. It goes with the, yeah, it goes with the heavyheads colors. This looks like if the H&M on 42nd Street had a bisexual section specific for clothing. Because there's two of me? And this would be the ad. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:49 That's a very fluid button up. That's a fluid button up? And it looks like he puts the pinstripes on the cars. For sure. He does what? I put the pinstripes on the cars. He's really into cooking, so we're going to put a whole stove in his trunk. We don't talk about Pimp My Ride enough.
Starting point is 00:06:07 Oh, I love it. I'm iconic show. But there needed to be a follow-up of all those cars. Like, they need to go back to all the same people, and we need to see how long any of that. Yeah, I want to see the Pimp My Ride Cars now today. They're probably all fucked up. Scrapyard. Like, I want to see them today.
Starting point is 00:06:21 They had like PS2s in. I'm dying to see the one that had the fish tank in it. I was gonna say, imagine getting it a car crash? Like, what do you think is in that fish tank right now? Like, what is in that fish tank right now? Like, today. They should have just followed every car for about an hour just to see the potholes and what they did afterwards.
Starting point is 00:06:38 They meant well, it was a great concept to take a car that was kind of beat up and then turn it into like this futuristic. Great concept. They took people with shitty cars and took them from shitty cars to liabilities. Yeah. They just added more bullshit to these people. That's what it was. Great show, though.
Starting point is 00:06:54 An iconic show. Yeah. Shout to exhibit. We had a week together. We shot some stuff this week together, so I kind of feel like I saw you guys during the week. We had some fun. They'll see what we did, I guess, at some point. Eventually.
Starting point is 00:07:07 Yeah, more will be revealed on Patreon. More shall be revealed. Your parents are here. I saw you posting a picture with dad at the museum. What the fuck? Happy 73 to your father. 72. Let me not age that man.
Starting point is 00:07:20 He looks great for Zendium. He looks better than you. Amazing. It's insane. Yeah, he looks great. When we went out to dinner, because I took him to dinner the first night, and then last time we hit a jazz show, when we went to the jazz show, the woman at the door was like, oh, like, we're here for a birthday because I put a reservation and let him know.
Starting point is 00:07:35 And she goes, well, it says the birthday boy's turning 702. Like, where is he? My dad's standing right there. And she's like, now, like, is he late? No, he's right here. He's not 702. Yeah. Like, no one believes that he's that old.
Starting point is 00:07:48 But it was good. He looks good. He looks good. Yeah. Black history months over. But shout out to. and black fathers. My dad is my hero. He's a legend. Love him to death.
Starting point is 00:07:57 Shout to your dad. Had a great couple days with him and my mom. That was a lot of fun. That's good. Shout out to the perinels. It was weird how his tone when he said Black History Month was over. You seemed a little excited. He is. Couldn't wait to get February out of here. Shortest month of the year, you just couldn't stand it. The race to St. Patty's Day. Yeah, I get it. The Race to St. Patty's Day.
Starting point is 00:08:14 That's a nasty race. When it's St. Patty's Day? Let's hurry up and get there. Turn the calendar. Race to the Potato Farm. How do you feel now that your people are coming up right after After our month, Rory, it's, we have to celebrate you and the gingers. I mean, well, you know, I get on, whatever, like, the HOTEP version of Irish is me. I don't really like St. Patrick's Day. I think it's exploited.
Starting point is 00:08:33 I think it's not a good representation of our people. Yeah. I think it's a mockery. I think it's bad stereotypes. So you guys don't drink all day, every day and get past all wasted. Yeah, but, like, that's our own personal business. We don't need to celebrate it. You don't have to put that out there to the world.
Starting point is 00:08:47 Yeah. You don't let the world know about what we're doing. Like, that shouldn't be the celebration for everyone else to do it. Be like, hey, hey, hey. I feel like St. Patrick's Day is like Irish, like, what is it, Santa Con? Irish Santa Con is fucking hilarious. And that is very true.
Starting point is 00:09:02 And that's my problem with St. Patrick's Day. Thank you for summing it up. I mean, I'm from New York. You know how New York celebrate St. Patrick's Day. So I just feel like, like, oh, it's St. Patty's Day. And I feel like Santa Con is like, it's like white, like just the American white man. What's black Santa Con? Like, Summer Jam?
Starting point is 00:09:19 Ooh, Jordan releases. First of all, watch your mouth. That's number one. He has a bit of a point, though. Usually I hate his comedy. And that was also race. Summer Jam. You hear of it?
Starting point is 00:09:32 Summer Jam is now. It wasn't powerhouse. It definitely not powerhouse. Give us summer jam. Sorry, wonderful. Puerto Rican Day parade. Plenty of black people out there. The West Indian Day parade, actually.
Starting point is 00:09:42 You cannot say Santa Con is the West Indian parade. Yeah, no. It's like Wyclef's version of it. Well, he's always on the float. Wyclef just took that earthquake. money and we never heard from him again, did we? I have been waiting for this. What's going to come out first? My album or the TLC
Starting point is 00:09:58 album that we all paid for? The TLC album? Your album. Definitely. We are not getting that T-Vos. Cated with that money. We are not getting that TLC project. And then she just went on some ghost show and found Left Eye and it just went under the radar. We missed you during our tape in Damaris. It would have been lovely to have you there. Hopefully you would have gotten.
Starting point is 00:10:17 Someone can't tell the people what we did, but, you know, I don't have any at all. Neither do I. It's going to change. We're going to change that, though, because I'm going to change it. No, I don't know. I'm very, I'm pure and untouched. Yeah, right.
Starting point is 00:10:30 You are not untouched. They look like a chewed up bubbled on. The Virgin Mary just got pregnant by accident. You are not untouched. So we got the. Touched by an angel. I understand. Touched by an angel.
Starting point is 00:10:42 A man named Angel. Madonna. His name is Angel? Look what she's wearing. You know when she dated somebody named Angel. Oh, yeah. I've never dated somebody named Angel. You look like you want to.
Starting point is 00:10:51 And she still writes him. to this day. He's not free. He's not free. He's definitely not free. There's no free angels walking around in the world. Every guy named Angel is definitely locked up.
Starting point is 00:11:01 For sure. We did get the Dreamville Fest lineup. I was, I'm not going to lie, Rory. When I saw this, I almost called you because I was great. I feel like we had a lot to talk about
Starting point is 00:11:09 this lineup. Maybe one of the best lines I've probably ever seen at a festival. Headliner-wise, for sure. We're going? I'm definitely going to this. Are you kidding me? 1,000%.
Starting point is 00:11:20 Well, I mean, yes. We. We're all going. Okay. Yomi too. Yomi's gone. Dreamville Fest, April 1st to April 2nd. They announced the lineup, headliner, Saturday, April 1st, Usher's headlining. That's huge.
Starting point is 00:11:34 This is Usher. You think he's going to bring the skates? I was just about to say that. I would hope so. I would hope not. I think the skates. No, no, no. See, don't do that.
Starting point is 00:11:42 I don't hate the skates. I just think that the skates need to stay in Vegas. Okay. That's all. That's all. I just think the skates. I think it's dope that Usher can perform on skates. that he has a whole choreograph set on roller skates.
Starting point is 00:11:55 I think that's super fly. That speaks to another level of his talent and his artistry. But don't bring the skates to Raleigh, North Carolina. Leave the skates in Vegas. Let people go to Vegas to see that. That's a big skated through the crowd and shit. No, no, no, we're not going to do that to us. Let him dance.
Starting point is 00:12:08 Let him give us the hits. Let him perform. Let him have pyro, wind, all of that shit on stage. But leave the roller skates on the strip in Las Vegas. Well, can we book this soon so I don't end up in a crack motel like I did last Dreamville Fest? Well, yes, we do need to make this book our arrangements soon because I'm pretty sure a lot of people are going down this year for this lineup. Usher, Day 1 is headlining with Lil Durk, Ari Lennox, City Girl, Sean Paul, Earthgang, Jesse Reyes, Key Glock, sir, Lute, Oman, Marcus Clay, and Vic Tony?
Starting point is 00:12:41 McToney, yes. I don't know who are you going to yell for from that list? From day one, who are you going to yell for? Who am I going to yell for? I'm going to yell for Ari. Sean Paul for sure. Wait, Sean Paul's on you. Holy shit.
Starting point is 00:12:52 Yeah, I'm going to yell for Ari. Wait, hold on. We're going to put some respect on Sean Paul's name. For sure. And what he could do at a festival. Give me the live. Oh, no, yeah, yeah. Sean Paul, he got bangers, like party movers.
Starting point is 00:13:03 Don't get it. And like, I'm going to sing along in the accent. Like, you can't just mouth his, that's the thing about a Sean Paul show. You have to put on the accent. Every kid's practice. With rap shows, you can rap along. You don't have to sound like them. Is that I fucked up?
Starting point is 00:13:15 Do your Sean Paul, Mall. Yeah, that's a reason. That's racist. We mean do much Sean Paul's. We've all done it. Why do you go to me? Because we've all done it. Yeah, but that's racist.
Starting point is 00:13:22 Roy will do it too. Yeah, but that's also racist too. How is that racist? He's Irish. He's Irish. You're not, no, you speak St. Paddy. The closest dialect, the closest dialect in the world is
Starting point is 00:13:33 Irish to Jamaican. Try it. So what is that? Do it. Oh, the jokes right. That you're allowed to speak it? Do it. No, I would be speaking.
Starting point is 00:13:40 And your native tongue? Yeah, my native tongue. So you're saying there would be Jamaic. That's what the native tongues were Jamaican and Irish. It's an old hip-hop joke. They're too young. I don't get it. That's hilarious.
Starting point is 00:13:52 But yeah, I'll scream for Ari, obviously. City girls, I'm going to scream for the city girls. Which one? Puff going to smack you. Wow. I'm just, I can't scream for Young Miami. I'm champion. No, I said the City Girls.
Starting point is 00:14:03 I didn't say one in particular. I said the groups. Okay, but you'd still be screaming for them. Yeah, Young Miami and, um, what's the other one's name? Did you? J.T. Did you scream free JT till it's backwards? No, I never screamed.
Starting point is 00:14:16 I feel like you tweeted that. No, I definitely did that. I feel like we could pull up. tweet of you saying free JT so it's backwards. No. I can do your thing. First of all, that's just hilarious. You know, free J.T. until it's backwards.
Starting point is 00:14:27 Yeah, JT. Free. No, you get it, right? No, I get it, but I've never screamed that. I've never tweeted that. Jesse Reyes, she's dope. She's super dope. I love her. She's bad. Day two, obviously, is the day.
Starting point is 00:14:37 Oh, we know who you're going to scream for. Oh, my God. I'm going to go crazy for Summer Walker. You know that. Drake and Summer Walker. Oh, Jesus. Why are they doing this to me? This is like your same city, same night. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:48 Dreams. No, it's a nightmare because now I have to have energy to just scream for like six consecutive hours. I don't know if I can do that. So I went to last year's Dreamville Fest and, you know, Raleigh Durham is a very quiet city. Yeah. So it's funny to watch the city be in disarray when something like this is here. I've seen New York and L.A. get into disarray when Drake and his friends show up. When he runs through the city with his woes, they're going to burn down Riley, North Carolina.
Starting point is 00:15:16 Yeah. It's going to be crazy. and Drake headlining with Summer Walker J.I.D. Glorilla, boss,
Starting point is 00:15:23 Waka Flaka, Mario, Ira Star, baby Tate, Kha, Jordon Ward and my guy Rubin Vincent and?
Starting point is 00:15:30 And? Burner Boy. Yeah. Do we think that E? Do we want to have like a, do we want to have like a same night,
Starting point is 00:15:37 same city with Burner Boy and Sean Paul? Burner Boy. That was a very come up all. I might go legacy. Yeah. I feel like I could see Burner Boy
Starting point is 00:15:46 more than I could, you can only see Sean Paul every now and then. Yeah. I go. I go Sean Paul. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:52 You're going with Sean Paul? Yeah. Me the lie. Between the Usher and the Sean Paul, day one, I might have to dress like a video victim, like a 2000s video victim. You're ready. You're ready to. You're right now.
Starting point is 00:16:03 Waka Live is going to be crazy too. That's another thing. Yeah. Walka. Yeah. Yeah. We might have to get some like old school ecstasy. Or like the real Molly.
Starting point is 00:16:12 Not the new Molly. Would you do Molly this weekend? If we all went as a crew got an Airbnb, stayed from Thursday to Monday. recorded down there would you take Molly with us? No. Oh, I'm slipping to use some Molly.
Starting point is 00:16:24 You can't do that. I don't do drugs. I can't even know it. Yeah, throw it in the spinach. I don't do drugs, people. I'm sorry. It looks like him. It's shrooms drugs?
Starting point is 00:16:33 Shrooms is, is there? Oh. Yo, the shroom cast to be that weekend. Would you do shrooms with us? I don't know if I want to do shrooms for the first time at a festival. That would be the place to do it at.
Starting point is 00:16:46 No, it's not. Where would be the first place? Stop trying to lie to me. trying to trick me. Just want to get me on camera, panicking and freaking out. Yeah. No, no, no. I'm not trying to hide that portion. It's not going to happen. To be fair, you guys do have, you know, you need to be representative of the podcast. So it probably wouldn't
Starting point is 00:16:58 be best for you to be on shrooms. We have to do shrooms. Yeah. What better way to represent this show than to not be high in the middle of thousands of people panicking and passing out? I mean, if we're going to make make, with this lineup to try to make any type of noise as a pod, being ourselves isn't going to work. We have to be on shrooms.
Starting point is 00:17:14 We have to be high. Yeah. That'll make a headline. That would definitely make a headline. Yeah. Elliot Wilson would post it. Seeing Rory get mad because his bracelet doesn't work to get past the barricade. What do you mean? This is not it.
Starting point is 00:17:26 You know what? He goes crazy. Oh, he goes to start calling me. Oh, my God. When his band doesn't work, when his band doesn't work, what do you mean? What do you mean it doesn't work? I was just standing right there 10 minutes ago. Well, it was just working.
Starting point is 00:17:35 Yeah. Everything you guys are saying is accurate. Rory go crazy when his band doesn't work. I'll have your fucking job. Yeah. That's true. Oh, really? Wait till Jermaine hears about this.
Starting point is 00:17:46 Remain. buddy. Buddy. Wait till Jermaine hears about this. This is your last year at Dreamville. But this is a dope lineup. My cousin went to St. John's with Eid. Do you know that?
Starting point is 00:18:00 He's like, yo, who are they? Dudes at the parkville, we know nobody. They just got hired for the day. They're like, what are you talking about? Last year, though, we were trying to go on stage to watch a drama do his set with GZTI and Wayne. And we ran into the band thing, as we always do. And I was with E.
Starting point is 00:18:16 I was with Ebe, who is the controller of this entire thing. Yeah. My band worked, his didn't. He said, you know, I can't let you up here. And I'm like, no, like he, this is his shit. Sir, he put all this together. Matter of fact, can he go and I'll stay back? This is his show.
Starting point is 00:18:33 I love when a band doesn't work because it just forces you to have to turn into like a different person. You have to like become resourceful. Yeah, yeah. You don't know who. And then people at festivals aren't answering their phones. They're not answering their text right away. So now you're standing there with this gentleman trying to like,
Starting point is 00:18:46 have a staring contest, like texting your phone, nobody's not answers. Now you're standing in 20 minutes. Very embarrassing. It's just like, oh, it's such a humbling because then it goes from you have so much hot air in your chest at first with the guy that's not letting you pass to 20 minutes later.
Starting point is 00:19:01 Like, oh, come on, bro. Like, honestly, that's my man right there. Like, you start wishing to me to my, that's my friends right there. Like, we all together. And then you see people you know going past. Like, oh, no, they get me. Like, no, you know, I'm just waiting for somebody.
Starting point is 00:19:10 And don't let somebody ask you, you're good? You're not good. You're not good. You're not good. I feel like that internally. I am not good. Yeah, no. I'm dying at a division.
Starting point is 00:19:17 When I went there and Rory told me that I had a pass, right? And then Rory got there and they didn't have a pass for him either. And I was like, fuck yeah. We're in this together, Rory. We can't get through this. And we're both on our phones.
Starting point is 00:19:29 Like, fuck. Well, I figured, I submitted our names together. So I didn't think I would have a pass. I hate when you have a pass. And I, like, that happened at the division thing. They gave me a pass. I knew that this wristband did not work
Starting point is 00:19:41 to get back to the side door. I knew that. I'm like, bro, this is not. respectable. You can know when you're supposed to either have like a credential, some type of lamnet or something. When they just give you the wristband, I'm like, bro, my stuff is in this room. I just want to be able to get back into this room when the show is over so I can leave. Yeah. No, no, this band works. You can give any way. Bro, this band is not going to work. What happens? I try to come back into the door.
Starting point is 00:20:07 Band doesn't work. I said, this is what I told me. And that's when I had to come and take your lamnit. One of my favorite tricks when I was on the other side of that, when people were asking me for laminates, I used to say, y'all, just get you a GA ticket once you get in, I got you. And then guess what? Never got them. Don't fall for that.
Starting point is 00:20:24 Y'all laughing. They fall for that. She pissing me off because Rory did that to me mad times. I do sickleu. Yeah, buddy. But you got in for free. There you go, see?
Starting point is 00:20:31 Yeah, you probably needed to be in NACA. And then you ran amok and started fights and shit. Thank God you weren't backstage. I paid. You see? If I would have been in backstage, I wouldn't even seen anything. I could never have you around young and May
Starting point is 00:20:43 with that behavior. with that type of energy. Yeah. But, yeah, man, Dreamville Fest, Able First. This lineup is dope. And, yeah, we'll be there. I definitely got to make sure that we did for that one. I feel like that's going to be a really, really great night.
Starting point is 00:21:04 Speaking of Drake and performances and interviews and things like that, he had a really dope interview with a little Yachty. Shout to Lil Yaddy. Still playing that album, really dope project. The conversation was funny. It was fun. it was cool. It's always interesting to see Drake sit down and kick it and do interviews, only because Drake has such a unique personality. I think Drake does this. He uses these moments
Starting point is 00:21:29 because he doesn't do many interviews. He doesn't do podcasts, things like that. So he'll sit down with somebody like Yadi, who is a friend of his, and they'll have a silly conversation. Is that how you view it? Absolutely. I view this as him killing time because he has to be in Turks so he doesn't pay taxes on all his gambling. I think he's just bored and trying to. to like really waste time until the shit clears so he can just pay Turks tax when he wins a million dollars. He's really just living in Turks, man. Oh yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:57 Because it's taxes. For taxes. Yeah. He gambles a million dollars every day. You can't do that in the States or Canada. I mean, what's the taxes in Toronto? Way worse than Turks. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:08 You ever heard the term of offshore account? He's living it. Oh, no, absolutely. He's offshore. I think that is fun whenever Drake does these type of interviews. you always get some type of classic viral moments. Don't say classic viral moments to me though. Why?
Starting point is 00:22:23 I just don't like it. You don't like classic and viral together? You just close them up next time? Yeah. Okay. I put one in GA and one like, um, general.
Starting point is 00:22:30 One of the best aspects of real estate ownership in Turks and Kekos is there is no income tax nor property tax or capital tax. Why are we doing this podcast in New Jersey? I don't know. I was talking to Loy on about that the other day. I was like, listen, how do we move this operation somewhere else? Yeah. Because these taxes are insane.
Starting point is 00:22:49 Puerto Rico it is. But this, Drake being in the Turk so much does, that probably is a reason. It's 100% of the rest of the guys are following him down there like, oh, word, that's how much you saved. I'm going to be out there for about three, four months too.
Starting point is 00:23:03 Yeah. So he had this conversation with Liyadi, and it was an interesting part of the conversation where Drake talked about possible retirement. And I don't know about you guys, but I believe that Drake may be in a position where he almost can't retire. Ever? Why do you feel that?
Starting point is 00:23:22 I feel like Drake is, one, he keeps too many lights on. Well, his back catalog can keep those lights on for eternity. Stay flickering. Yeah, but I just think that when you earn so much money for so many different people and different businesses, I don't think retirement is an option. I mean, when you win a million dollars a day and post it on IG and don't pay any property tax, I mean, do you need to rep? I think his squad might be all right.
Starting point is 00:23:51 Well, I mean, he has ownership in that, what is the name of it? Stakes. He has steak and steak. He has steak and steak and shake and steak. Yeah. So we know that that's a business move for him. He's not gambling with his money. Of course not.
Starting point is 00:24:05 That's the company's money. But yeah, I don't think that Drake can, I think that he just, he has too much of the market in his corner to leave the game. I don't think that he can retire. But who's retired? That's what I'm confused. And that's another thing.
Starting point is 00:24:23 Rappers don't retire. No matter how many times they say this is my last album, I'm not retiring no more, I'm not, do you say that and they go away for a year and you don't make no music and then they show that stupid corny video in the studio?
Starting point is 00:24:37 All right, well hypothetically, what is a world where Drake, let's not say retire, but steps back for a, for a consistent amount of time. What's a consistent amount of time? Let's say five years. No way.
Starting point is 00:24:48 Five years? I'm saying in a world where he does that. What do you listen to? Drake. In a world. Let's just start there. What do you listen to? If Drake doesn't put out no new music for five years.
Starting point is 00:25:02 Oh, Chris Brown. Who takes the spot? You're an ass. What I'm saying is what does it look like for artists? Because a lot of artists, they wait around for their releases, trying to move around when Drake's releasing this or when Drake's doing that or things like that they don't want to compete with him so what does the world look like who do you think takes over how do you think the music game changes what does the what does the world look like to
Starting point is 00:25:25 people that have independent businesses and products if every target closes for the next five years everybody's value there's opportunity there's a lot of opportunity what does it look like you take monopoly on Drake is target you get your product and target your your business booms by 100,000 maybe percent. An artist gets a song a feature with Drake. Everything spikes for him. Features, shows, streams, everything spikes.
Starting point is 00:25:53 Drake is the guy that you plug into the system and it's just a spike. What was the last time he's done that, though? What do you mean? I mean, we know that Drake stimulus package with the verse, but he doesn't really, maybe Jack would be the last person that happened with. But Jack was already...
Starting point is 00:26:07 He has an album with 21 Savage. Do you know what 21 Savage and what his numbers look like now? But that's not what. I'm not getting it. That's different. I'm talking about the actual Drake gives you a verse thing. That 21 Savage is a whole different conversation. So probably Jack.
Starting point is 00:26:20 And then before that, it had been a while. Like, I don't even think Drake does that anymore. What, does a song with people? The guest verse thing. The Migos Versace's thing. Like the same way when a comedian goes on Joe Rogan, that's like their Drake first. They just blow out.
Starting point is 00:26:34 That was his song. Never mind. He just hasn't done that in a while. I will say, though, Drake can't retire just for music. sake, and this is going to make me sound like an old hater, but this is the first time in rap history, in my opinion, that there hasn't been a solidified
Starting point is 00:26:51 new generation of superstar. Like every single generation we've had, the biggest person could retire because we knew we had this next generation that was solidified. Now, I thought Little Baby was that, and I'm not saying he's not, but it's shown that it may not be that case off his last album. There is no, this is the first time we won't have a new, superstar solidified.
Starting point is 00:27:13 Once the JAA 50 Nelly run was starting to plateau, we had this new 2010 bubbling of these guys, Kendrick, Cole, Drake, Walee, say Big Sean, whoever you want, but at least we knew, all right, there's a group here, and then the better
Starting point is 00:27:29 ones ended up rising. But what's the group that we know is going to be the superstar? Travis Scott? I mean, Travis Scott was definitely, I mean, Travis Scott is definitely a problem. We knew we had a future. Like, we don't have that right now. The difference is, this is the difference with Drake and why he's such, he's the artist
Starting point is 00:27:45 that he is, is because he can give us rap, he can give us dance, he can give us R&B. Like he has so many different things like, yeah, little baby is a star. There's no ceiling for Dr. But it's just like, little baby's not going to give us an R&B record. Little baby's not going to give us a dance record. The versatility. Drake is too versatile. He covers too many different areas and he does it well.
Starting point is 00:28:07 You understand what I'm saying? So it's like for five years, this guy is not. putting any music into the market space. What are we listening to? Like are we just listening to like hoping that Kendrick drops an album? We're hoping that cold drops a project. I mean, kind of, yeah.
Starting point is 00:28:23 And that's what I'm saying. That's going back to his point. That's my point. Like, the superstars are now are the vets now. And we don't have that second class that we're like, all right, we know these are going to be the guys. At all, though? Like, the savages, the Kodak blacks, the So, Uzi's, we've given them
Starting point is 00:28:39 the five-year grace, no? that this was the new generation, who's going to be the one? And I feel like we have moments where we think, all right, little baby, we're going into a little baby era. And that is proven, now I'm not hating. It just, it plateaued. Like, I'm just looking at numbers and impact at the moment. And even quality of music.
Starting point is 00:28:56 Like, I think Uzi could have been a superstar, and there's just my personal opinion. I think he's plateaued as far as quality of music. Little Uzi? Yes. But quality of music is different. I think he was on a crazy uprising and the last project. We got a crazy smash out right now. Yeah, quality of music is different.
Starting point is 00:29:11 I said that's my personal opinion. Yeah, but he has a smash out right now with a project coming. That's that you could, is a Jersey club record. It doesn't matter what it is. It doesn't matter what it is. Well, I started with saying my personal opinion of the quality of music. No, I understand that. But I mean, I think it's just not fair to say that because we didn't even hear the next project yet that he's coming out.
Starting point is 00:29:31 And I'm saying I thought his last, he was on a rise. I thought quality of music. The last album you put out to me was a plateau. He didn't do anything differently. Like, it was just more of the same. it didn't grow and even numbers showed it didn't grow. Would you have hopes? I mean, but I would say the same thing about Drake when it comes to my personal preference.
Starting point is 00:29:48 I think that Drake plateaued with quality of music. But not on his uprise to where Uzi is right now. How do you think that? He just put out a dance album. And her loss. I'm talking about quality of music. You think... Yeah, that's what we're talking about too.
Starting point is 00:30:02 You think her loss is better than the album when he was looking in the sky. What's the name of that one? Nothing was the same. You're not saying, but that's not the conversation we're having. I'm not saying that. We're not saying that. I'm saying it's still quality of music. No, but when I say I think he's plateaued on quality of music,
Starting point is 00:30:16 it doesn't mean that his quality of music has went down. I think that he's hit as high. I think he's hit the best. He's made his best album. He'll continue to make good albums, but I think he's made his best album already. So that's where I say plateau. Disagree there is I think you could argue right now that Drake,
Starting point is 00:30:31 her loss could be in his top five in his discography. You could make that argument. And for an artist to do that this late in their career to crack into their top five albums, means that you're doing. Like, I felt the same way when Jay did 444, I was like, oh, shit, of course, we know he's not going to give us
Starting point is 00:30:45 another reasonable doubt, but damn, this could crack into the top five albums in his discography. Well, then you got to say the thing. I brought that up because of what you said about Uzi. You got to say the same thing about Uzi. And we don't talk about honesty. He's on the rise already.
Starting point is 00:30:58 Drake is a vet, solidified legend. Uzi's still on his rise, though. Exactly. He's on a rise. Bro, we don't talk about honestly, never mind enough. I'm sorry. Like, I know it was, we wasn't expecting that type of album. that album is fucking crazy, man. It's a good album.
Starting point is 00:31:12 People just kind of like, in his discography, they don't talk about that because it was a dance album. But when you listen to that album, it goes back to the versatility conversation. And this is what I'm saying. So for Drake to hint at retirement, I understand what you mean. Maybe he wants to take a break. Maybe he wants to kind of just step back a little, enjoy life, you know, and be with his kid more. I'm pretty sure the older his son gets, he's probably, you know, want to spend more time, especially once he starts getting to the age of almost high school.
Starting point is 00:31:38 I just think that to retirement meaning I'm done making music I don't know if Drake can do that All right can I ask just to close that other conversation Can you guys name me the artist From the generation below
Starting point is 00:31:50 Drake, Cole and Kendrick That the world will stop When they're about to put an album up Oh there's nobody And that's the first time In my opinion In hip hop that this has happened That's this is never
Starting point is 00:32:04 We've never had The new generation be able to not solidify our next superstars. Like we don't stop. You sound a little scared. I'm terrified. I also think that's because...
Starting point is 00:32:15 He can't retire. You can't retire. But that's also because our vets won't retire. No, we're not waiting for the generation underneath them to drop because we're still. Because Kanye was already a legend when Drake, Kendrick, and Cole were coming up. And we stopped, stopped
Starting point is 00:32:29 when Drake put out nothing was the same. We stopped when Cole put out Bourne Center. We stopped when Kendrick put out... Born, sinner, and Yeezus came out on the same day. And I'm saying the legend can still exist, but the generation is not competing with them as far as
Starting point is 00:32:46 moments. Like, I don't feel there's a moment anymore with the young generation. I'm not hating. This is just, to me, a fact. Or we might not be knowledgeable because the boy, the boy, what's his name, broke boy, never young again.
Starting point is 00:33:00 J.B. Black boy? No. No. No. Never young boy. The world stops when he puts it out, not us, not our generation, but the generation's younger than us. PlayStation 3 will chat room stop. Okay. I mean, that's definitely some of the highest numbers. No, his numbers are crazy.
Starting point is 00:33:16 I'm not saying people aren't selling Cardi. I'm just saying some. Playboy Cardi for sure. Some of the Playboy Cardi could be one, but I feel like he lost momentum too. I'm talking about the intangible. Whole lot of red was a big, like, who? Whole lot of red. That album.
Starting point is 00:33:30 People were like really clamoring on to that release. In Utopia, before the trap thing happened, that was supposed to be like the, that You think the intangibles, though, of, like, everyone's stopping. I'm not saying just the young generation or just the older generation. No, I'm with you. Because I could even say, if Jay wanted to put out an album, I would say just us would stop, not the younger generation. Future. He's an artist that people will definitely, when he dropped something, people are excited to hear it for sure.
Starting point is 00:33:56 No, I agree, but he's in the era of Drake Co. Kendrick to me. Yeah. Technically, yeah. Well, that's because, you know, it's just my belief. my belief, again, this could just be my age talking, the younger generation, I think the matter in the volume of music they put out and how quick they turn it around. I think it kind of, it's like you're not waiting that long. You're not really waiting for it.
Starting point is 00:34:20 Yeah, it's like you're not really, you know, listen, the landscape of music has changed, the landscape of how these artists put out music has changed. But there are, again, certain artists that are just, though, guys or the or the or the ladies that when they drop like Beyonce when she drops everything well R&B it still happens everyone the world stopped when Cizza was about to put something out the world stops when summer is about put something out yeah so yeah it happens in R&B but then you could even say hip hop sells more than R&B right now too yeah so it's a weird conversation I think I think you guys are right when it comes to just the incredible volume of music along with
Starting point is 00:34:58 the fact that we get to see all of our personalities online so much we're constantly being for lack of a better word, raped with their fucking content all the time. We're being berated with their content all the time. So it's not like I'm waiting. I haven't seen Kanye in years and then Kanye drops an hour. Yeah, right. I miss those days.
Starting point is 00:35:16 You know what I'm saying? Like it's different. We see them all the fucking. And they see them all the time. They see them on TikTok, on Twitter, on Instagram, on YouTube.
Starting point is 00:35:23 And they're constantly putting out singles, putting out a Lucy here, putting out a Lucy here. Because in this era of music, you have to constantly put music out or people will forget you. Well, Drake is an exception to pretty much every rule. But yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:35:34 I would say as far as legends and superstars go in music, he has played the volume game. Like, he did the disappear album thing in the beginning of his career. Then we didn't not see Drake for five years straight, which I think speaks to his artistry. But Drake plays the high volume game too. And we stop every time he put something out. Kendrick and Cole comparatively are the like, I'm hiding now. You see a photo with me with dreads all of a sudden. Which I know times have changed, but I still think that can exist.
Starting point is 00:36:03 We see summer all the time, but we literally stop what we're doing when she announced an album is going to go. What about what's Sizzar? Sizza kind of goes into hiding. Yeah, she goes to hiding. She tweets. Oh, no, the world stopped with this. Yeah, when she dropped. No, that's what I said.
Starting point is 00:36:20 I said it happens in R&B. It doesn't happen in hip-hop. But yeah, just a circle back. Mall doesn't think that. Go ahead, Roy. They're going to kill me. I'm sure my mentions are going to be full of a bunch of rappers, and I'm just old and don't know that the world stops. You're considered old?
Starting point is 00:36:35 That my take right now would be considered my first really old take. Yeah, I see that. It's rooted in understanding the younger generation. Right. I don't see it. You don't see the artist that demands the attention of a Drake. Oracle or a Kendrick. Or the generations before that.
Starting point is 00:36:51 Yeah. But it's also, it might also be a generational difference. Yeah. Like us, not the rappers. Also, like, our timelines look drastically different than theirs. So it's just also not in our social. Our socials are out of them, yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:37:03 It was also another interesting part of that conversation with Yadi where he referred to his, Drake refers to sitting with his therapist and talking to his therapist about when he walks in the room, he's the biggest figure in the room. He said, you like, what was the joint? What did he say, Julian? He said, well, for anyone that goes to therapy, a lot of their relationship is based off, like, analogies that best understand the person that they're speaking to. So these are things that are said in private, obviously not shared with a large audience of people.
Starting point is 00:37:31 Drake was comfortable enough to share with Yadi and all of YouTube that his relationship, his therapist compared Drake to a woman with large breasts that's hot in every room that he walks into, meaning that every room Drake walks into, he's stared at and looked at and just like ostracizes like this like figure that we can like, you know, objectify and just look at and clamor at. And he's like that, that there's something about that line that clicked best with him. He can identify as a woman with hot tits. I just thought that that was fun. I just wanted to hear Julian say that.
Starting point is 00:38:03 Hot things. Drake is hot. Also, like, having to go through therapy, and that's like, that's what clicks. The revelation that happens in therapy, like, I'm a woman with big tits. I'm like a woman. This guy's got like a PhD from like Harvard. And look what he did. I could have told Drake that.
Starting point is 00:38:18 How much you paying it? Like, I've listened to Drake timestamp records in Outros. He's a self-aware person. He definitely thinks about himself a lot. Internally. So to go to therapy, be like, tits. But you know what was. What was interesting about that.
Starting point is 00:38:31 Get it now. Being in the club with Drake, and I remember my homeboy, he had this conversation. Like, Drake was walking around, and it was like, you know, people knew it was Drake, say what's up, but he's walking around saying what's up to people that he knew conversations. Even as big as Drake is, right? In that moment, my homeboy tapped me on the shoulder that he said, Michael Jackson could never do that. Oh, no. So this may go against my point that I was just arguing.
Starting point is 00:38:59 with a generational shit. It's a different generation. Mike would never go to highlight room to kick it. No, no, but not that Mike would never go to that. Who's at a slumber party? Not Mike that can go,
Starting point is 00:39:09 not Mike that can go to, not, that's fucked up. That's fucked up. That's not funny. Not Mike can't go to, he wouldn't go to highlight room to the highlight room. You don't have slumber parties?
Starting point is 00:39:15 But it's just the fact that like you said, a generational thing, you didn't see Mike. Like then, he wasn't on social media. He wasn't posting videos. He wasn't doing a bunch of interviews. Mike Mayer did two interviews a year.
Starting point is 00:39:26 Barbara Walters and Drake wants to show off his tits. Yeah, like that's the difference. It's like you feel like as big as these artists are and as as famous as they are, you still feel like they're accessible. Like you feel like you might go to this party
Starting point is 00:39:41 and now, yo Drake, you know when Drake is coming to a party. Like, you know, you're like, yo, Drake, they're about to pull up. How do you know they might show up? Even within the generation, you're speaking from a privileged point. No, I'm telling anybody that has social media,
Starting point is 00:39:53 what are you talking about? I'm talking about at the party. Yes, Drake is accessible to, us and that's going to sound really arrogant. He was walking around the party. What I'm saying like... Who could get into that party is what I'm saying.
Starting point is 00:40:05 Like... Everybody in L.A. are getting that party. All the cute girls in L.A. is at that party. That's not the common world. Bad bitches in L.A. does not mean Drake is accessible. No, but I'm just saying like you can... It's not...
Starting point is 00:40:18 I'm just being out. No, it's not... It's not... What I'm saying by accessible meaning like, there are people that are in that party. Yeah. Regular 9 to 5 people. Have a job.
Starting point is 00:40:26 Like, they just go to this party. because they know somebody there or they're attractive or they're in a certain circle. So it's like, yeah, we're going to this party tonight. But like these are for the most part of regular people. Yeah. But I think celebrities. I think Mike, when he did go to parties, again, there wasn't cameras.
Starting point is 00:40:42 We never knew when Mike went to the club. But it was a certain amount of the pretty bitches in L.A. People that knew somebody. Like, it's not the common world. In 12-year-old boys. Yeah, but now it's different, though. Like when Mike went to a party, he was walking in there with Eddie Murphy. biggest dude in Hollywood at the time.
Starting point is 00:40:59 And I'm saying at Studio 54, there was people with nine to five jobs. There was all the baddest bitches in New York that probably didn't even have a job. It's the same thing, but that's not the common world. Why did you make you unemployed? I think that you guys have been in that world
Starting point is 00:41:14 for so much. You start to think that it's the common world. Also, if I'm in highlight room and Drake walks in, I'm not surprised. If I'm in highlight room and J. Cole walks in, I'm surprised. You shouldn't. Eh, different.
Starting point is 00:41:26 No, I mean. He moves. He's out a little bit. It's just less. He doesn't post it. He'd be out off the wagon. That's fun. That's interesting that you say that though.
Starting point is 00:41:33 If Jay Cole walks into a party, you're surprised. If Jay Cole walks in, because that's not his persona. Drake's persona is, I am surrounded by liquor and bad bitches at all times. I'm either in Turks or in a party off a perk. Like, that's what he puts out. But he needs to do that for the music that he makes. Cole, on the other hand, doesn't need to be in Highland. Jay Cole is, I'm smart looking up, Dr. Seby in the corner.
Starting point is 00:41:57 I'm smart Don't do that just because he got dredge Don't do that But that's But that is Cole's entire catalog What you took out of that was Yo, I'm smart
Starting point is 00:42:05 I'm smart Like don't do that I'm smart Like my My school I remember Cole had the season I remember he had the season I remember he had the low cut
Starting point is 00:42:12 Yeah Cole's out No I'm a cold stand I'll pick Jay Cole over drinking And he's got some party records Yeah for sure I love Mr. Nice Watch No you don't
Starting point is 00:42:19 No you don't No you don't No you don't You know that was the biggest Waste of a Jay Z feature On Earth I hate that record I fucking hate that record.
Starting point is 00:42:28 I hate it. I hate Mr. Nice Watch. I go crazy. You could hear the Rolex ticking in that song. I hate that fucking song. But yeah, either way, Drake, you are. Where were you that day? Mr. Nice Watch?
Starting point is 00:42:39 I don't know. What type of question is that? Like, no one, I understand when you're in the studio. You can hear things that sound good. Why didn't you tell Jay like, nah, you should wait? Cole, this isn't the one you want for your Jay feature. Now I see why Zile was going to curse your ass out that night. You think that you can tell Jay Zee, yo, why don't you just wait?
Starting point is 00:42:56 Jay Z, he's going to lay down a verse, he'll come out the book. You should wait to put this out. No, no, just not this beat in this song. Maul, do you have a Hubello that you call Tebow? And first of all, Azealia was wrong because all I said was that I love her house music. I didn't tell her. That's not what you said. That's not.
Starting point is 00:43:09 Wait. See, I'm not letting you do. That's not what he said. You said, you're going to get back to the house music shit. Oh, okay. That's what you said. It's totally different. Look, oh, okay.
Starting point is 00:43:18 You can tell an artist, yo, when you're going to get back to. Yeah, I can. Yes, I can. No, you cannot. No, you cannot. Yes the fuck I can. No, you cannot. That's disrespectful to a artist.
Starting point is 00:43:25 You can't do that. You wouldn't tell Michael Angelou, you're going to start using more reds in your paintings again. Yeah. No, you can't do that. Fucking, all 16 of these chapels is ill. Go back to this shit. 16.
Starting point is 00:43:37 Where's the 17th at? Like, I just hate to know. Can I tell you how mall called me? I'm just in a regular day in Chipotle. Mall calls me and says, yo, you went to high school with Azilia? Yeah, because, okay, so I'm on the farm. I'm talking to, I'm talking to Azilia.
Starting point is 00:43:49 Because she's sending us some gift boxes, right? So she's trying to, she's swearing that she knows DeMaris. She's like, yo, wait, I know DeMaris. I'm like, so now I'm surprised. I'm like, wait, Demaris didn't tell us this? I'm like, well, you know DeMaris? She's like, I went to school with her. I'm like, no, you didn't.
Starting point is 00:44:05 I said, DeMaris went to school, upstate New York. Like, you did not go to DeMaris. She said, yo, I went to LaGuardia. I'm like, DeMaris definitely did not go to LaGuardia. She's like she did. She's like, she did not. She's flown into LaGuardia. Right.
Starting point is 00:44:19 So then she pulls up this whole other Demaris girl that went to LaGuardia. She's like, yo, I said, this is not Demaris. I know her name is Demaris, but this is not Demaris. I had to call. She's like, no, call her right now and ask her. It's rude to tell an artist who they went to high school with, especially performing art school. No. So you're in the same same bag as me. She, no, no, no, no. See, the difference is Azealia was trying to tell me that she went to school with Demarice. And I'm like, no, no, I was trying to tell her, I love Azelius house music. No, no, no, no. You said when you're going to get back to to making that house music. I meant it as I love your music. What was her response to that again?
Starting point is 00:44:52 She just looked at Rory and just was like, just walked away. No, and then she'd DM me later and cursed me the fuck out. Oh, what she sent you voice notes? How does she curse you out? Reading. Like, I read it. Yo, that's the best. When you got to read my attitude?
Starting point is 00:45:09 Yeah. Like, yo, I thought it was very. Taxing cursing. Unbecoming of you to ask me when I'm going to get back to making this type of music. I am an artist. Red, going back to the 212. And in her defense, now that you mention it that way, yes, I can see how it. came across there.
Starting point is 00:45:23 And intention. And then you want me to tell Jay when he comes out the booth like, yo, you should just Yes. He's crazy. You cannot do that. No, I think more artists need
Starting point is 00:45:32 that person in the studio to say, hey, don't do this. It ain't gonna be me. Nas could do it. Wait, Nas would just be in a J session like, you know? I don't know. I don't know. I'm not going to tell J-O
Starting point is 00:45:43 and I don't put that verse out. I think... Who am I to tell him that? I think your brother Hop has stopped millions of shitty Jay-Z songs and stuff. Jay stopped talking to him for like six years. You see, Hop will tell us that part. And then we got Magna Carter without Hop and Hop should have been there.
Starting point is 00:46:01 You're like, yo, nah, don't put that out. Why aren't? Don't hit my phone for five years. That's what I'm saying. You can't tell an artist when they're creating like, nah, because again, it's the artist. No, you are correct at that party, yes. But I think someone in Cole's camp should have been like, I don't think this is the right beat. And I understand when in your studio, everything sounds great.
Starting point is 00:46:18 Hey, we have a J feature. Maybe we should pick a different song. I mean, but that's not fair only because you're talking about looking back. In the moment, they probably thought it was great. I'm saying the moment it came out, I thought that. Oh, well, then. Well, the history of that record was the album was done. And then Jay heard that and then decided to throw that verse on last minute.
Starting point is 00:46:36 Add more credence to what I'm saying. It was forced. I'm not, listen, I'm not mad at you. I'm just saying when that shit got cut that day in the studio, I don't think niggas was going to be like, yo, no, I don't. And then we got, what was the shit on TechMe later? Then we saw what it looked like when you did it correctly. Oh, no, thank me later. What was it?
Starting point is 00:46:53 With Jay and Drake? Yes. Thank me later. Light up. Light up. Yeah, then we saw what it looked like when you didn't force something. That's a good record. It's also Drake.
Starting point is 00:47:03 We do need a Cole and Jay record, like a proper one. We need another Drake and Cole. They both got dreds now. You know, the dreads are like antennas. I feel like Jay Cole can match because Jay Zee be outwrap, like, you know, on his last big feature. He outwrapped them niggas when it came to that kind of thing. Oh, man. The Wayne stands are going to get you.
Starting point is 00:47:22 Uh-oh. No. Wayne stands is coming. I mean, I'm talking about content, just content-wise. I think Cole could match up with him content-wise, and they could wrap up by the same kind of thing. Speaking of the boy, he put out a video with 21 Savage or the spin-bought-you video, one of my favorite songs on that project.
Starting point is 00:47:43 The boy and the bloke. That's what the album should have been called. The boy and the bloke. Yeah. But 21 doesn't claim London, does he? Yeah, he doesn't claim the UK, does he? His passport does. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:47:52 He doesn't know choice. Well, I guess if his passport does. would say otherwise. Yeah. They put out the video for Spinbautchu. Julian went crazy when the video dropped. Oh, yeah. Edin followed his sentiments.
Starting point is 00:48:05 Eddn was like, yo, hard. It was confused. That's how you guys tell? Yeah, y'all made me go watch it. Like, once I saw you and Eddn, like, going crazy, I was like, oh. Did you see my comment in the group chat? I was like, wait, what happened? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:48:18 I thought something. Oh, it was just a video. It was lit. I was like, oh, no, I got to go watch this video right now. I'll post a group chat to her Patreon, subscribe to our Patreon. Now, I will say this. I will say this. I did, the one reason why I did like this video was because this felt like, you know,
Starting point is 00:48:34 when hip-hop videos used to be hip-hop videos, like the bigger budgets, the movie type of thing. So for that alone, once I saw it, okay, this feels like an old bad boy video. Yeah. You didn't find it weird? The video? What would I find weird about this? Like the beginning of it. Like, why are 21 and Drake just like the two of them in the middle of the ocean?
Starting point is 00:49:00 Like, I feel like they deserve to get robbed. I mean, what if this was their recording process? What if they were quarantining? Like, if there's no engineer, like, I don't see, I don't even see the captain. Like, is 21 driving the boat? Probably. You don't think, like, as much as I fuck with you, I don't know if I had that boat that I'd be like, yo, how about, like, you and I just get some us time?
Starting point is 00:49:19 Yuck. And, like, just go out to the ocean. I don't want to have us time. I don't want to have us time. This doesn't look like weird us time? Yeah, it does. It does kind of feel like that is you too. For sure.
Starting point is 00:49:31 Like, I feel like they were texting each other. Roy's 21. Because I'm Catholic? Nah, Ma'll wouldn't. Because of the cross? Yeah, yeah. Mom would be dragged. It's a knife.
Starting point is 00:49:42 It's a knife. And, you know, UK, Ireland, I get it. But you don't think, like, they texted each other once the album drop, like, let's just, like, let our hair down. No girls. Just you and I. in the ocean. Like, let's just get...
Starting point is 00:49:56 In the album? Yeah. In the album? Let's just, like, dance out in the ocean. Well, they weren't dancing. I hope not. They just finished dancing. No, Jake, please.
Starting point is 00:50:04 I don't even want to think about just them or two on a boat dancing. But the concept of video, the girls come back and they basically take heist of the, of the yacht. They drug Drake in 21. They robbed them. She takes Drake's diamond engagement chain of all the engagement. rings that he had for all of his exes, that he turned into a chain, which is kind of like his trophy case. You know why I know I'm a sucker, more? She wouldn't have needed to do all this blow the shit in Drake's face. She could have just drugged me. Yeah. I would have been with whatever
Starting point is 00:50:39 she said. She would have just handed. She did too much of a production. Whatever she said on that boat, I would have done. Just a glass of wine and she would have had you? 100%. No drugs needed. Don't even tie me up. I do. I do like this video, though. This is a... I like you to. It just feels It feels like what videos are supposed to feel like. And Preciously looks amazing. I love the fact that they use Precious as the main girl. Giving love to our BBWs. Can we say that?
Starting point is 00:51:05 Is that offensive? Does she identifies a BBW? I don't know what she identifies as, but there's no need to even call her a BBW. She's a model. She's a BBBD.A. Okay, so we can take that out. It was good to see them use Precious Lee as the lead in the video. Well, let me ask you, because the concept is all the women that Drake should have proposed to or whatever the fuck it is.
Starting point is 00:51:27 Drake should have proposed. If we went through your body count, like, how do you think this robbery would go? Clearly they are all sister wives and friends. Like, they work as a unit, Titanic. Drake has at least is a good GM. Because all of them, they look like they have been a team for a minute. Yeah. With your body count, how do you feel this robbery would go?
Starting point is 00:51:45 Because clearly 21 Savage is an innocent bystandard here. Yeah. And Drake just put him in deep water. get it my best I tried that's cool I felt bad for 21
Starting point is 00:51:58 Drake's demons came back and he was just caught in the 21 was like it's just a casualty of war yeah like where like come on Lotto will never believe this
Starting point is 00:52:08 the funniest part of the funny I'm trying to explain that to Lotto not like all 40 of these women on here are trying to rob us the funniest part of this video is when
Starting point is 00:52:17 Drake I don't even know how he agreed to get shot in the head but Drake agreed to that. He agreed to get shot in the head and then you see 21 just run and jump like you ain't shooting me. He just run and jump off the journey.
Starting point is 00:52:30 Like, nah, nah, nah, nah. I'll take my chances with the sharks. Yeah, yeah, like, let me just jump in this ocean and I'll try to swim. Like, y'all not going to shoot me in the back of my head. The heart over his sword tattoo was hilarious. This was a really, really well done video. But you still didn't answer how your body count
Starting point is 00:52:43 would handle this. Right. Well, first of all, we're going to need a bigger boat. Talk your shit. Bitches over here. Is that a Jaws reference? No, no, but listen, I definitely, let me just put this out here. I definitely not have been with more women than Drake.
Starting point is 00:52:59 Let's put that out here, number one. I think that these are probably supposed to kind of, these are supposed to be maybe the girls that he was going to be proposed to. Yeah. Well, I would assume he would have fucked them. Well, where did y'all get that idea from? Nobody ever said that. He did.
Starting point is 00:53:14 He did. He did. He did. He did that what? He said that about the diamonds. He said that about the video. Oh, no, he didn't say it about. We just, we just, we just podcast.
Starting point is 00:53:21 speculating. Damn, man. Just a podcast. Fuck. You don't see the deeper meaning of this. You're just on the surface levels. You have to dive in more. We're below the server.
Starting point is 00:53:28 You're just on the boat. Yeah. We're down. See, that's why they didn't tell you to get on the yard. We're in the galley. We couldn't see that far. Yeah, rock. Mall.
Starting point is 00:53:35 There you go. What? I don't know. I don't know. Edon just gets into these modes where he just starts like getting vomit, diarrhea of the mouth and he just goes. I don't know what he's talking about. But great video felt, who directed us?
Starting point is 00:53:48 Do we know? If I'm willing to guess, Dave Myers? I think it was Dave Myers. Yeah. What I told you. That was just a guess.
Starting point is 00:53:56 It feels like Dave. It looks like, Paulus. Looks like Dave. Feels like Dave. Yeah, that's how I said Paul. Oh, and yeah, this looks like a Nathan production for sure. Thank God Nathan produces. Thank you, Nathan.
Starting point is 00:54:06 Thank God for Nathan. And you know, like Lark is the only director representative that can get this shit. I knew. I knew this was a Dave Meyer. It feels like an old school hip-hop video. I'm with you. Oh, and shout out to Fatima, 21's stylist. I'm just going to go through the credits.
Starting point is 00:54:23 I love Fatima. She's dope. I've never met a whack Fatima now that I think about it. We have to add that name to the non-whackers. When you hear Fatima, she's like, she's into some cool shit. Yeah. Fatima's always cool. I never met a Fatima that didn't have some cool shit going on.
Starting point is 00:54:37 Like, if you see a Fatima that, like, don't have cool shit going, she changed her name to Fatima. Yeah. That wasn't like her birth-given name. That's her Instagram, name. Yeah. In the video, you mentioned Drake gets killed, shot in the head and thrown overboard. Have you ever felt like your life or safety was threatened by an ex or a girl that you were talking to? Not to that extent, no.
Starting point is 00:54:56 The most I thought was going to happen was maybe, like, show up and just cause a scene at, like, the crib, kicked on the door or something, not kill. Yeah, that. She surety was banging on her head. But that was like, it was a conversation, which is why that's crazy because it was a conversation. And then she started just banging on her head. And I was like, I don't think you should do that, but it's your head. Like, just feel like.
Starting point is 00:55:17 Yeah, do what you want. You're giving concussion vibes. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, you should not be doing that, but if that's how you get your anger out, get your shit up. I would say the closest thing. I don't like when women play in the car. Like, when you're arguing and I'm driving, like, relax a little bit. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:55:33 Like this is, this could compromise. Yes. I should ever pull the wheel on you? One time, and it wasn't in an argument. She might have been high. This, I was really, maybe 21. And she grabbed the wheel. I don't know if she was drunk, high.
Starting point is 00:55:47 She just thought it was funny. What was your reaction? What the fuck are you doing? Were you on like a highway? I mean, I still beat. Don't get, don't get me wrong. A city road or a freeway? That didn't, that didn't, that didn't.
Starting point is 00:55:55 I was on, I was on one in nine in Elizabeth, New Jersey. Nice. I remember it vividly. And I was driving a camera truck that I had, like, I was supposed to put. Stolen? It was like, it was a three-day shoot and it was supposed to go in a bonded lot. Said stolen. But I'm like, why did she do that?
Starting point is 00:56:13 I don't know. I think she was just psychotic. And I have a type. Like, I'll be feeling. Like, yeah, like, I grabbed the wheel. She grabbed the wheel. No, we weren't arguing. Everything was fine.
Starting point is 00:56:21 She was just like, ha-ha, and, like, did that. I was like, what the fuck are you doing? No, you can't ha-ha-and-and-follow it up with pulling the steering while I'm driving. That's not a ha-ha-ma. I'm not exaggerating this at all. That's exactly what happened. I don't know. Like, I'll be, because I don't have crazy stories about girls like that that I dated.
Starting point is 00:56:35 Well, you're way cooler than us. No, but I just think that what I think that is that guys play games with girls. 100%. And it's someone that has played games and lied. That was not this situation. We were having a great time. Because you can be upset, right? But I think that to go to that extreme where it's like,
Starting point is 00:56:50 nigga, I'll kill both of us. Like, what did you do? Like, what is your role in this emotion? Look at you victim blaming me. No, no, I'm not victim. I'm just talking about in general. What would make a girl that upset to where it's to a point like you're driving on the freeway?
Starting point is 00:57:07 You're doing 75. And she thinks that I'm going to just grab this wheel and we're going to go right into this divider. So what you're saying is you think women manage their emotions really well. Some do. Well, how about Angelina Jolie? Well, what I will say, Maul, what I will say is if anybody does that,
Starting point is 00:57:22 they have mental health issues of their own, but men be knowing women have mental health issues and we'll still date them and fuck with them and then call them crazy when they finally have an emotional reaction to something, but you knew I was a little off when you started dating me, but you thought all it was well as good. No, I didn't.
Starting point is 00:57:38 No, I didn't. No, I didn't show me till this moment. Oh, I didn't show you until I almost took the fucking car off the highway. Yes. That was crazy. No, I'm not wrong. I think it's a build-up.
Starting point is 00:57:46 It's something before. for that. It doesn't start and grab the people don't snap. Damara, sometimes it is just like a moment. Sometimes,
Starting point is 00:57:52 but how often? I don't know. I mean, we're talking about those moments right now. If I get to the point where I'm trying to snatch the fucking stairwell
Starting point is 00:57:59 out your hand while we're on the fucking freeway, you knew I was crazy. I'm with a red flag. It's a leader. What if it's the first red flag? Thank you. No,
Starting point is 00:58:07 no, that's never the first red flag. No, because sometimes it's explosive. There's like microaggressions and people build that thing and then you think everything's cool
Starting point is 00:58:14 because they've been leading with cool. and then there's that one like boom and you're like, what the fuck? That could have been the boom. I don't think, I understand there's a boom. I don't think grabbing the steering wheel is the first boom though.
Starting point is 00:58:25 Why not? The first boom is maybe like walking into the kitchen and finding like the knife in the middle of the cake. That's got to be like the first one. That's the breadcrumbs and flour too. Yeah, like this bitch is crazy. Like, you know what I'm saying? Or like going into the bathroom and like
Starting point is 00:58:39 she goes to take a shower and she comes out fully dressed. It's like, yo, you got dressed in the bathroom. That was a very specific. That's very specific. Yeah, that's crazy, right? If you see a girl going to the bathroom and take a shower when she comes out fully dressed,
Starting point is 00:58:50 like, this bitch is crazy. Wait, why? Or she got a rash. A rash. No, we're not doing it. A rash. We're not going to tell me you got dressed. I saw the rash at some point.
Starting point is 00:59:03 Yeah. Well, no, lights were out. We had sex in the dark. I went in the bathroom, got dressed. Yeah, but I'm rubbing on you. I feel alligator skin, B. Turn the light on. If I feel eczema, turn the light on.
Starting point is 00:59:11 Sometimes it's under the skin. If I feel eczema, turn the lights on, I know. You're not about to just pop eczema up on me in the middle of sex, my nigga. Like, if I'm rubbing on you in the dark and I feel eczema, I'm turning the lights on just to make sure it's eczema. I have eczema. You're going to keep fighting. What you mean? We're going to keep fighting.
Starting point is 00:59:27 No, no, no, no, no. I got to see. Let me make sure that that's what I think it is. Roy will power through anything. Yeah. He's crazy. But this is what I'm saying. You can't tell me that grabbing the steering wheel was the first like. I'm ambitious.
Starting point is 00:59:38 No, that wasn't the first red flag. We ignore. Those red flags, be looking real pink and Valentine's Dayish. Oh, like your outfit? When you... Ooh. You do look like a lot. I love a red flag.
Starting point is 00:59:49 I know. They're just beautiful in the winds. In the wind. Like nothing flies better than a red flag. You're right. A red kite, if you will. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:59:56 I've read what? What? What's wrong with you, bro? You're right? What are you going through? Angelina Jolie? You're going through Angelina Jolie? Speaking of going through some things.
Starting point is 01:00:08 Speaking of trying to kill yourself. Speaking of trying to kill yourself. Real quick, before we get into this Angelina Jolie topic, is a trigger warning for anyone that has dealt with mental health or suicidal thoughts before. Angelina Jolie, she put out a, I guess it was an interview she did, if I'm not mistaken. And she talks about how she had contemplated suicide at one point. But she didn't want to do suicide because she didn't want to leave the guilt to her family. As you know, we unfortunately know people that committed suicide.
Starting point is 01:00:38 There's a lot of guilt that comes with that feeling like we could have talked to them. We could have prevented it from happening. So she said she didn't want her family to feel like that. So she went as far as hiring a hitman to kill her. And I think that this hitman is a hero because he then turned into her therapist and said, you know what? You're the woman with the big tits. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:00:58 You're the biggest one. That's when she realized. You should take a month. Think about it. And if after a month you still want to go through this with it, I'll come back and kill you. I don't know if he said that, but I'm guessing that's how the conversation went. But I just thought it was interesting and very vulnerable of her to talk about that because just the mindset of hiring a hitman to kill you, to kill yourself, because you didn't want, you didn't want to live no more.
Starting point is 01:01:21 You was contemplating suicide, but you didn't want to leave your family with that guilt. That's very deep. That's selfless. That's hard. Selfless. It is selfless. I mean, in terms of suicide, like, thought, usually when they say people that have suicidal thoughts are going through that dark of a moment, it's like very, it's, you're so caught up in your emotions that you don't really think. of others in that regard and you're just acting on what you feel and how you can do it to
Starting point is 01:01:49 yourself but she had the wherewithal to be like okay if i'm going to do this how do i want my family to look at this how can i make them feel like they weren't that fault here that's pretty selfless i completely disagree how i luckily have never had a family member die of gun violence but i would imagine there's probably not a lot of closure when you believe your family member was murdered and no one and if she's hiring a hit man i'm assuming he's pretty good at his fucking job probably nice as fuck and that you're planning it already i had to get for like there'll be no clues i didn't i didn't and no motive that's there'll be no closure for the family forever and like why the fuck was angelina jolly murdered yeah i would think that i'd have no closure let alone her
Starting point is 01:02:33 family like who was killing angelina yeah but is anyone safe i think i think that i think then you got to think bratt she would ruin uh brad pitt's life she would ruin uh billy bob thornton's life because no matter what they're always going to I don't care how family's sure they're going to go to the husband your family's going to suffer who killed her it had to be someone close to her you're definitely going to think that her husband did it
Starting point is 01:02:52 because she accused him of beating her who would be the first people that they would accuse family the whole family yeah but I think the point of what she was saying was you know with suicide it's a definitive the family feels guilt for that her kids like damn like we didn't know
Starting point is 01:03:07 we didn't see the signs we could have talked to her whatever whatever and she didn't want them to feel that guilt. Now you're right. Even in murdering a celebrity as big as Angelina Jolie, there's a lot of questions that are going to be like, who would want to kill Angelina Jolie? Why not make it look like an accident? Well, I'm sure the hitman probably has his ways of doing that as well.
Starting point is 01:03:28 Yeah. Could do that. Because I feel like that's probably... Well, yeah, maybe the hit man... It wouldn't have been a murder. The hitman's whole thing would have been trying to make it look like she accidentally killed herself. If you hit Angelina Jolie with a car, even if it's an accident, you're doing time. No, you can't hit her with a car. I feel like a hitman would find another way. other than driving his car into all of her children are adopted no not all of them okay so wait a couple real ones not keep going delete that not real but biological so they're orphans no they're not they're with they have their father they have a family well now they do yeah at one point
Starting point is 01:04:01 well i don't know i think they were orphans they were from like third world country you know you can adopt children before they're like even born oh yeah they're never an orphan but they weren't doing that she was like coping them when they were like ten she was she would go shopping she was not She did really go up to other countries and she pulled up to Africa and was like Skir that one. Not that one. Like she was really doing that though. No, she was.
Starting point is 01:04:20 Like I'm not joking. Yeah. Not that one. Give me that one. I don't understand what you're saying, Julian. But I don't think that you can just say she was coping them. I mean, she kind of was. Well, I mean, what's the evidence of a cop?
Starting point is 01:04:30 We all go shopping mall. Some of us buy clothes. Some of us buy kids. That's true. She just did an illegal way. Fair. Don't buy children. They were once orphans.
Starting point is 01:04:40 Yes. What if? Uh-huh. She just wanted to restore that feeling. What feeling? Shut the fuck up. Why do we let you talk? I'm lost.
Starting point is 01:04:50 He's trying to say, what if Angelina Jolie is trying to make them feel like? They miss me. They feel like they're at home again. So he's, you just didn't deliver that punchline. What's selfless? That was just.
Starting point is 01:04:59 But I, if she killed herself, her kids wouldn't. We still have their father. Hold on. You know, I look at, I look at pictures of your dad.
Starting point is 01:05:07 He looks like such a smart, intelligent. Yeah. Just like, just a logical thing. Apple doesn't fall far, right? How did you? How did you come from that man? How? There's no way you came from that man.
Starting point is 01:05:16 This dude is fucking crazy. But either way, I thought that this was a very... Also an amazing script. As one of the source... Like, this would be a great movie. Could be a great movie as well. As one of the people who struggle with mental health in the room, I actually really, really like that idea.
Starting point is 01:05:30 We all struggle with mental health. Everyone struggles another old. Of like assisted suicide? Yeah. I like that idea. I would much rather have someone kill me so that my parents aren't living with the guilt of like, oh my God, what signs did we miss and this, this and that?
Starting point is 01:05:46 I'd much rather. All right, well, let's take it there. You don't think parents feel when their children are murdered, that they're like, where did I miss the signs of the people they were hanging around, the lifestyle they were in? No, it could be a right. There's still a lot of guilt if someone is murdered. Yeah, but it's not as much.
Starting point is 01:06:01 Did I not know what they were doing? I've buried plenty of people who do the suicide. The suicidal guilt will change your life. It's a very different. If you hired a hit, man, how would you want to go out? I'd want a boulder to fall on me Well it depends on how How much of an accident are we making this look like
Starting point is 01:06:19 I would want them to write my suicide note And then push me off a bridge Make it look like suicide I go to love but it's really murder I go to love love love that Wait wait wait wait wait wait wait You just did a double suicide Everything I'm trying to tell you this room
Starting point is 01:06:33 That was like inception Yes It was not like inception I want to kill myself But wait I want to make it look like a murder, but how the murder is looking at it is he's a murder, so he's got to make it look like a suicide so he doesn't get caught. So he's actually pushing you off the bridge.
Starting point is 01:06:51 And he's writing my note as if it was a suicide. Meanwhile, that's just the murder. But they will just go to your hand writing. But you got to think murder, like, come on, I watch A&E, so I understand. Yeah. You've got to get one. For sure. So murders, the number one thing they say is how do we make it look like a suicide or accident?
Starting point is 01:07:06 So the murder I hire will then write my note and then push me off. the bridge. But it would be an obvious note that you didn't write. Well, I mean, so he's saying he could hire, if I'm paying top dollar, he'd get a handwriting expert. Yeah, to maybe. A cligrapherst. We love a handwriting expert. We love calligraphist. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:07:24 I was just saying I would go to Ludlow and have the hitman drug me and then I would die of an overdose. And then they, why are you fucking up Lidlow the house like that? Yeah, why you got to put my whole social season to the mix? Okay, I'll die down the street. Can you die in a place like that I don't go to it?
Starting point is 01:07:39 Diet like wingstop. That's selfish. If you were to go Dying at Winkstop. Dying at Wingsawkson sucks. You waiting on the, you waiting on the motherfucking
Starting point is 01:07:47 Lillip pepper wet? She'd take one by and go A lot of fatty acids. It's a slow death. Wingstop can kill you. Oh my God. But that would be selfish if you killed yourself
Starting point is 01:07:58 in a place that I like to go to. Okay, well, I'll walk down the street and die. But like the point is too close because my parents won't be like, you know what I'm saying? They know I do drugs. They know I do drugs.
Starting point is 01:08:07 They're like, oh, Damaris overdose. On what? We? I don't know. know, whatever he gives me too many roofies or something and I pass out and convulsed. I don't think you can die off roofie. I don't want to know how you know that, Julian.
Starting point is 01:08:19 No, I just don't think it's like the drug. It's, I don't know. Okay. Okay, Julian. Listen, I've never, I've never, I've been roofied. Y'all sound like y'all have thought about this suicide thing, a time before. Boulder, just falling right on me. I have never thought about it.
Starting point is 01:08:33 What? I've thought, like, I'm demaris. I'm with you on that. You've thought about suicide? commit suicide? Like my, I'm fine, I'll say,
Starting point is 01:08:41 like, when I was in Chicago and I was like very dark and depressed, like my, I'm too pussy to just like do it. Same. So like my thing was,
Starting point is 01:08:49 I was a big, like heavy into my drug shit. So I was like, if I do enough drugs and don't wake up, so be it. Okay. I was like, if I accidentally like die
Starting point is 01:08:59 from a drug use, at least I go out with like the guy that was teaching on Chicago Southside and was getting his master's degree. Like, it's a pretty resume to go out on. Like I was thinking in that terms
Starting point is 01:09:09 Bad selfless But I'm not like gonna like You know fucking take a thousand pills Or like slip my wrist Like I'm not doing that's too much effort That's like mad graphic I don't want to do all that Like if I happen to do a eight ball of coke
Starting point is 01:09:22 And not wake up so be it That's how I looked at it You want to go hard pussy tolerance I've been there too You've been there too to do drugs And just not wake up Yeah What are y'all going through?
Starting point is 01:09:32 I'm straight now I'm two years clean No Coke Like I'm chilling I'm happy now I'm very happy I'm so glad that you're happy to be alive in this space. I'm glad you're alive too.
Starting point is 01:09:41 Love you guys. That was limited to Chicago. I made it out. See what happens once you get out of Chicago? It's the trap. Life just opens up. Life just gets better. It's on O block.
Starting point is 01:09:49 I was going to say, I could have thought of way more ways to die in Chicago. Yeah. You didn't have to go to drug. Well, the first day of school, my school got shot up. So I was close. I didn't want to get shot. That would have sucked. Oh my God.
Starting point is 01:10:01 Or shooting yourself and you fucking live and you're a vegetable. My worst fear. More important news. Is this important? The most important thing. The number one thing that everyone is outraged about. It's not trains blowing up. It's not the water in Flint.
Starting point is 01:10:15 Vaccines. It's not the new election. It's not that we know now that it came from Wuhan. Mm-hmm. Was Michael B. Jordan Corny in high school? Was he? I don't know. I have no idea.
Starting point is 01:10:29 Why has this become such an outrage topic with everyone? I don't know why it's become an outrage topic. I think people just are... I don't know. They're going back to the interview that they had, L'Oreal had. She supposedly, allegedly called him corny, which they proved that she did not.
Starting point is 01:10:47 They released the audio from the episode. She did not call him corny. But I guess Michael B. Jordan thought that she called him corny. Her co-hosted. And they were back in, you know, they bumped into each other. They went to high school together. She bumped to him on the red carpet for the Crete premiere.
Starting point is 01:11:05 And, you know, Mike, Mike just let her know, like, yeah, I heard that little shot. I heard that. Which I don't, I don't, my, he, to me, he didn't seem like he was upset. He didn't seem like he was salty. It was kind of like, yeah, I heard you. Because if he was upset or salty, he wouldn't have gave her the interview. Exactly. On the red carpet.
Starting point is 01:11:21 Let's agree. Or he specifically did that so he could say that. Which is fine, too. I think that there's a, first of all, if he was corny in high school, if he wasn't, I don't know. But let's say he was corny. Talk about a casual premiere, too, though. He was in a windbreaker.
Starting point is 01:11:35 He was corny in high school. He was a fucking actor. Actors are corny. Like, it's, people in entertainer are corny. We're corny. Also, if you don't make fun of someone named Michael Jordan in high school, fuck him. Well, that's why they put the beer.
Starting point is 01:11:46 You have the corny's high school ever. Yeah. But wasn't he, he was, the wire was when he was in high school, right? Yeah. I mean, how corny can you be if you're on one of the biggest shows in high school? Like, you're at a despondy. Nobody else in school can call me corny, and I'm on one of the biggest shows on TV. I'm looking at all the, no, y'all are corny.
Starting point is 01:12:01 Wallace was corny on the show. It's only cool now to be like a young child actor. Like back then, like in the 90s, if you were doing theater acting, corny. This wasn't the 90s. When the wire came out, early 2000s. Yeah, same mentality, though. Yeah, but it's, I mean, I think that he had fun with it. I think that this was his way of like, yeah, I heard you, the corny kid.
Starting point is 01:12:23 Now voted the most sexiest man in Hollywood. Like, it's one of those like, now look at me type of thing. Is it? Yeah, I think that's what he was trying to flex. Yeah. Yeah. I don't think that he, I don't think that he was offended by being called corny by L'Oreel or thought that L'Oreel called him corny. I don't think he was offended by that.
Starting point is 01:12:38 I think it was more so in him saying like, yeah, I heard that little corny comment. Like, yeah, yeah, yeah, like, that's why he was like, yeah, what's up? Like, yeah, like, now you hear, want to get an interview with me at a premiere for a movie that I directed. Like, not bad for the corny kid in high school, right? It was that type of thing. Playing devil's advocate, Maul, you're cool. So, like, you probably don't see it from this perspective. I'm corny, okay.
Starting point is 01:12:58 But there are, there are plenty of. He was in the choir. He was just like Michael B. Joy. Oh, for sure. But if you think Michael B. Jordan was a feeling as head like, ha ha, these bitches that used to laugh at me. Now I'm got one up on them. If you think that people don't feel that way and people don't have those thoughts,
Starting point is 01:13:14 some of people's biggest motivations is like proven their haters. As they should be. Of course. But don't say it. It probably ain't even face him. No, I faced him. No, no. No, when I'm saying it didn't phase him, meaning like, I don't think that he exuded any type of
Starting point is 01:13:26 disrespectful energy towards Lord. Me either. I don't think he should be getting killed for this at all. And I thought L'Oreal handled it fine too. I thought both of them handled that shit because that's what I don't understand the outrage. To me, that was exactly what happens between two people that went to high school together, probably haven't seen or spoken to each other since. Now I'm at where I'm at in my career and this is what you're doing.
Starting point is 01:13:45 You're like, okay, you have a show, you're interviewing at my premiere on a red carpet. Like, okay, heard the little comment that you passed a couple weeks ago on a podcast. All good. Just letting you know I heard it. But not bad, right? for the corny kid in high school. So not saying like he was like, oh yeah, now you're on my dick.
Starting point is 01:14:03 He didn't exude that. Do I think that Michael B. Jordan knows Lurio has looked at him and like, damn, he looked good now? Of course. He's voted sexist men in Hollywood. Like, a lot of women look at him like he's attractive. He has a nice body. Like, I would sleep with him.
Starting point is 01:14:16 Right. So that was his way of saying like, yeah, remember the corny kid in high school? Not that anymore. I'm not the ugly duckling anymore. Just like my girl's ugly duckling. And they come out on Mori. They're like, damn, that's shorty from chemistry?
Starting point is 01:14:28 Like, you know, she looked crazy good now. Same difference. That's the same thing. But I don't think that he was disrespectful. I thought it was playful. I thought it was fun. And I thought that's exactly what would happen between two people that went to high school together
Starting point is 01:14:43 that probably didn't really rock with each other. But it's like, I don't think Michael B. Jordan is a disrespectful guy. I don't get disrespect from him. He doesn't give off a disrespectful energy. Bigger conversation. And this isn't specific to Michael B. Jordan. you can be corny and then become a super successful entity but still be deemed corny corny to be in entertainment you have to be most entertainers are corny people podcasters are
Starting point is 01:15:08 corny this job is corny this is corny this is corny this is the corny and if we had to be sit here and be super cool and this wouldn't be entertaining there's well there's some value of cornyness in entertainment and everybody's corny to some people to some everybody does corny things. Everybody says corny things. It happens. But I think that in the way that he handled that, that's exactly how he was supposed to handle it.
Starting point is 01:15:33 I agree. I don't get why he's getting killed. Because people just want to kill people for whatever they want to kill people for them. But in the moment people be pandering too. That is exactly that is exactly no, and not only that, people be wanting to engage and get interactions and get a reaction from people.
Starting point is 01:15:49 So they'll say, oh, he's corny, whatever, whatever, just to get a reaction. It is with it. Over two people just pass. asking each other on the red carpet. It wasn't even an interview. Brief interview. But I thought it was an interview. Not really.
Starting point is 01:15:59 It wasn't really an interview. It was more so like, like, okay, like, hey, like let's have a couple words. Like, yeah, I remember you, like from high school. Yeah, the corny kid. Yeah, I remember. That's why he was like, what's up, though? Like, what's up? Yeah, I know.
Starting point is 01:16:10 Uh-huh. Uh-huh. I know you looking at me like, your owl. Yeah, I know. That's what the energy was. Like, I know. Somebody tweeted Michael B. Jordan looks like he knows where his birth certificate is. And then someone replied,
Starting point is 01:16:23 the real copy. And then someone else said, yes, in a manila folder. And I thought that was the funny thing. He's getting the Drake treatment. Yeah. Like Drake the type two. Remember that era? I mean, but that, but see, that only happens when you've reached a certain level of success,
Starting point is 01:16:41 a certain level of conversations within the women group chats. Like, that's when that happened. So yeah, you're going to receive some of those type of, you know, remarks and people saying things about you online, but that's only because you've now stepped into a different level of conversation. Well, you guys got a multimillion dollar deal. I'm sorry to cut you off. I'm going to let you go back.
Starting point is 01:17:01 You guys got a multimillion dollar deal. Have you, have you had that get back? People who used to maybe make fun of you in high school or not give you the time of day or one want to give you no pussy? Did you have they, you haven't had the double back? Roy, you're not a few people you want to kill. Yeah, but they're not from high school because they made fun of me. That's not Collinbone.
Starting point is 01:17:21 I always say, I don't know if. It was just Trigger warning. Oh, man. Just luck or whatever. But I did, I don't have many stories like that growing up. Like in high school. You were a rock boy, so.
Starting point is 01:17:31 No, not that. A lot of people didn't even know that. That's not something I disclosed to people at a young age. See, that's cool. That's how cool you are. No, that's because I didn't want. That's mad cool. No, that's because I didn't want me.
Starting point is 01:17:41 You don't think Michael Pete told the school any new stringer bell? No, I didn't want niggas trying to kidnap me and say, yo, tell your brother send that ransom. I'm from the hood. I'm not. Nah, nope. I don't know them, nigga. What was your cover?
Starting point is 01:17:52 It wasn't no cover. I just never talked about with my brothers and what they did. Do you think people in Newark thought if they grabbed Michael B. Jordan that maybe Bodey would handle the ransom? No, I think that was totally different. Because they went to performing art school as well, right? I believe so, yeah. I believe that was a performing art school. So it's different.
Starting point is 01:18:08 Like, when you go to a performing art school, it's different because there may and may not be certain students that's in school, which at the time, that have a real job boy from school. Like, yo, she's actually on Broadway right now. Or this, he just did a commercial for Coca-Cola. Where DeMaris went to high school, LaGuardia. Yeah. It's just like that. Where you went to high school at LaGuardia. Like, you know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:18:25 It's just like, so you have people in school where it's like, oh, yeah, that's the girl. She just did the Coca-Cola commercial. Did this appear that everyone that was outraged about it felt like Michael B. Jordan was their hero because they were picked on in high school. Yes. There were so many people. And then it was also on the other side. It was all the women that have been like, like, I like future more than Russell Wilson. See?
Starting point is 01:18:49 It just brought that back to be. 100%. That's what the outrage came from. A lot of the tweets I saw were people saying, first of all, this isn't people's first time calling Michael B. corny. Y'all were all calling him corny.
Starting point is 01:19:03 I guess that Lori Harvey fake relationship really did work. Because remember, at one point, he was getting killed the same as Lawrence from fucking insecure because he was always running around with white women. And he used to get killed in the black community a lot. That's why when he first came out with Lori Harvey, a lot of people were saying that that relationship was fake
Starting point is 01:19:21 because, oh, now you want to date a black girl so publicly because we were on your ass about damn white women. So they were being saying like, you can tell that he's a corny dude. Like, you shouldn't be mad at somebody call him corny. It was just a stupid Twitter debate, whatever, but I really just wanted to ask you guys. So he was sexually attracted to black and white women. He dated a white woman.
Starting point is 01:19:41 He's now dating a black woman and now it can't be a real relationship. It's crazy. That's stupid. That's fucking ridiculous. It's stupid. It's not that it's ridiculous. It's not that. No, that is objectively stupid.
Starting point is 01:19:51 It's that he was always seen with white women. And when he started getting killed in the public for it, then he suddenly came out with a very public black relationship. None of his other relationships have ever been super public before. But that's my issue, though, because why if that's his preference is a problem? What if his preference is what? I don't care. I'm just saying, I'm just to the discussion. Why are women upset that he only was dating or allegedly was only dating white women?
Starting point is 01:20:17 if that's his preference, what's wrong with that? Because if it's on the other side and you have your preference and I feel like it's wrong, then you got a whole bunch of people outside on my front lawn picking it about some shit. But if it's because I only, my preference is to date white women, that's a problem. Why? Like that's just what I'm saying with the world. Everybody has, if you're not into what they're into, it's stupid. It's fucked up.
Starting point is 01:20:43 It's corny. It's this, is that. It's like, no, that's my preference. I prefer to date white women. Why? Maybe I grew up in an all-white neighborhood. Maybe I went to school with predominantly white women. Like me, I grew up in a predominantly Spanish neighborhood. So if people
Starting point is 01:20:55 only see me dating Dominican women or Puerto Rican women, but they're going to say I don't like black women? It's that stupid. It's the potential undertones of like being what's the problem or discriminatory. And on top of that, who do you think is... What community do you think is his biggest supporters? That's true. Who do you all think are Michael B. Jordan's biggest
Starting point is 01:21:14 supporters? His biggest supporting community. I haven't ran a number. on that. I don't know. Okay. All right, cool. Well, yeah, well, no. You could make an assumption. Like, come on. But he's a fucking for real. You could make an accurate assumption. So say, what do you think? Black women, it's mad. Like, you wouldn't, you wouldn't, you wouldn't assume that? Am I
Starting point is 01:21:29 crazy for assuming? No, I'm not saying you crazy for assuming that, but I'm just, am I crazy for assuming that a dude that is was voted sexist man in Hollywood? Yeah, a lot of white people banged him. That a bunch of women are not attracted to him, white, Asian, Puerto Rican. How do y'all think he got to sexiest men in Hollywood? How do y'all think
Starting point is 01:21:45 he got that platform to be sexiest in Hollywood? Who do y'all think supported? I don't think the sisters. Hollywood? The white women got of me. White people. It ain't the sisters that got of me. In Hollywood? No. This is, I'm staying out of this combo.
Starting point is 01:21:56 You're a white man. Yeah. I'm aware. You're voting. The whitest. I didn't, no, I'm not on the committee. You voted? I'm just, I'm just saying there's, like, that shit has to stop. Just because a guy only dates a certain type of woman, his preference,
Starting point is 01:22:11 everybody can have their preference. Right or wrong. Yeah, you got a preference. Okay, so don't, don't kill me. me, but why did that How was that corny? How was that? How was that? How is that?
Starting point is 01:22:21 When they calling him corny for dating white women? I'm not talking about Michael B. Jordan and I don't know him. I don't know his life. I don't know his relationships. I am only reporting on what has been said, rumors, things like that. And all I'm saying is that shit is stupid. And all I'm saying is some people would say that if you are, if you have a black mother and you don't like black women that there is something to be looked at within that.
Starting point is 01:22:42 But who said he doesn't like black women. He dated a black woman publicly. This is what I'm saying. He didn't say he didn't come out of his mouth. I'm not saying no, I'm just saying. Who the fuck cares what they say? He was in a real relationship with her. That's my point.
Starting point is 01:22:55 Because he fucking dated her. How do you know that? So we're going to go with what E-News says over the fucking fact that they were actually dating? Who are these fucking loser reporter? By the way, only Julian would get loud during the dating a white woman topic. He's fucking pertur. He's been quieted the whole episode. Now he's like, E-News!
Starting point is 01:23:15 Who the white women? The fuck is running E-News over there. You're going to believe them. But it's like we're prioritizing a fucking report from shitty reporters from these bullshit blogs and networks over a man in his actual love interest. That goes back to what I'm saying. So you're saying that nobody in Hollywood or in the music business has. I'm not saying that's not a possible. I'm not saying that doesn't happen.
Starting point is 01:23:39 I'm saying because the fact that they have shouting. You're scaring basically. I'm saying because the fact that they've shouted this and put this on his name for so long, that it's like, oh, it's true, he only dates the whites. Why? That'd be a hilarious headline. I just think it's, I just think that's, but that's, that's ultimately what I'm saying, is that it's all stupid.
Starting point is 01:23:58 It's dumb as fuck. Because even if, even if he prefers to date white women, why is that a problem? Why? It's his preference, right? We're in the world where everybody has their preferences, whether it's their, the gender that they prefer to identify as, whether it's their sexuality, you have your preference. you have your preference. So why can't this man
Starting point is 01:24:18 who has a successful career grown man is doing this thing, he's not strung out on drugs? We don't hear about nothing negative in the press with Michael B. Jordan. We don't hear about him. And you know what I mean? Getting into DUIs,
Starting point is 01:24:29 we don't hear about him abusing women. We don't hear about none of these things. But he's subjected to because he's this clean. I was going to say, yeah, Rory. Like, how do you put DUI and abusing women in the same sentence? It's drastically different crimes. And I can make the correlation.
Starting point is 01:24:42 That's not the same one. And I can make the correlation. that it goes hand in hand. I can make the correlation that it goes hand in hand, but that's a whole other. I have a GY and I've never abused the woman. That's a whole other topic.
Starting point is 01:24:52 But what I'm saying is, she pulled the wheel. Here's a guy. Here's a guy that has this clean cut image, right? He has a clean cut image. He's not, if Michael v. Jordan is the black guy
Starting point is 01:25:01 that if he's walking on the street, a white woman wouldn't be scared across the street because he would take him home anyway. He's crossing the street to go to her. You know what I mean? Like, he'll take him. He's handing him keys of his apartment. Exactly.
Starting point is 01:25:15 So I don't understand the outrage about Michael B. Joy and B.J. I speak for all women and I get killed when I don't speak for all women. But what I will say is there is a big thing and there's always been a dialogue around successful black men only dating white women. There is a dialogue around that when you get money. You only date white women or they because that's what wealth. They put that next to, adjacent to wealth or adjacent to success. is dating white women and there are many black women
Starting point is 01:25:47 who are very sensitive about that. It's not really that. On top of the world also making white women the center of beauty and the standard of beauty. So when black women see their own men don't want to date them,
Starting point is 01:26:00 then yes, that can be a sensitive topic and I think that sometimes they have every right to talk about that. But I think the sisters, I think which I don't understand about that whole image or that whole concept is sometimes it's just the mere fact
Starting point is 01:26:11 that as a black guy growing up in the inner city, white girls never wanted to date us. So now that we become successful and now white girls want to date, it's just like, oh yeah, I'm gonna date some white girls. I never dated a white girl. Let me see what a relationship and sex is like with a white woman.
Starting point is 01:26:26 But I don't just date them, yeah, I marry him. Yeah, but I mean... Well, why is that such a big issue? But it's not a big, because a lot of people still, like you said, they look at it, they equated to, oh, because you're successful now, you want to date a white woman. No, I've always wanted to date white women because I like women.
Starting point is 01:26:43 I just didn't have access to white women But now that I'm fucking in Beverly Hills all the time There's nothing but white girls And I'm in Malibu on the beach And there's nothing but white girls here Yes, I'm in fucking white girl heaven I'm gonna date some of these pretty white women You're just a lot that feeling
Starting point is 01:26:56 Not saying that I'm gonna have a family Settle down, I don't know Sometimes it falls into that You fall in love, you create a family But I'm just saying You can't look at it like only because you're successful Now you like white women No, he may have always like women
Starting point is 01:27:10 Well I'm pretty sure he always like white women But white women didn't always like it is that a problem? I'm not, because people just make problems that aren't really problems. Why are, I just don't like big general question,
Starting point is 01:27:20 not just a Michael B. thing. Why are people so invested into the intimate relationships of celebrities or like entertainers? Why does that bother people so much? Because it's in a state,
Starting point is 01:27:32 they don't want to deal with their own life and everybody loves gossip and mess up. That's just, that's like the opinion. You can't have one way. That's so sad that you care that much with someone's dating. Well, not even that.
Starting point is 01:27:42 It's just that now, If you're a secretive or if you're like very quiet about who you date, now you're sneaky. Like, people want to know everything about you. They want to know who you're dating. They want to know who you're fucking, when you're fucking, did you pull out? Is she pregnant? Like, they want to know every detail of the relationship that you have with women. We do also have Pete Davidson and Ice Spice dating on our topics.
Starting point is 01:28:04 Fun fact. That's another thing. Well, because it's funny. I mean, hey, if we want to talk about the white people interested. And you were the one that kept bringing that up, too. I didn't keep bringing it up. I don't know. You can't bring it up.
Starting point is 01:28:15 Put it on here because it's a funny conversation. Why do we care? Because Pete Davis is a new rollout. Why are you doing it in that valley voice? Because that's how you saw it. You're not going to fuck any black women. Michael be Jordan. Big who.
Starting point is 01:28:26 I don't. You're still going to see Creed 3 and everything else he puts out. This is my thing. I don't, I, me personally, I never cared about black men who don't date black women because those aren't the type of men that I like. I don't want men who only want white women. We would have nothing in common. So like.
Starting point is 01:28:42 Well, Jordan dates both. He does. Is there a world for you, is there a world for you where he can't be dating both? Like, that doesn't mean. No, I never said that. He can't go the other way.
Starting point is 01:28:51 I'm sure he dates whatever. I'm sure he dates whatever fine-ass girl. Definitely dates black girls. For sure. But I'm telling you, I am reporting on what the world says. That is all I'm saying. Well, in more news. Well, Ice Spice, would that be your preference of you?
Starting point is 01:29:04 Speaking of the male, Lori Harvey. Ice Spice? Yeah. Well, shout out to the Bronx, first of all. Hey. And Pete Davis and Damaris's. point there is definitely the male Lori Harvey for him. Pete Davidson is
Starting point is 01:29:16 now the rollout, the PR guy for a woman to date. Even if she's not really dating them, they're going to try to stick Pete Davidson alongside whatever rising female, celebrity, star, artist. Just to get the internet going. I do, I, 1,000%
Starting point is 01:29:35 do not believe that. I don't think that ice spices ever. No, I'm saying that the Pete rollout kind of isn't that. It's already established like Kim to Emily Romakowski or whatever. Radikowski. Yeah. I mean, I'm on record saying I don't think that Pete and Kim was real at all.
Starting point is 01:29:50 I'm on a record saying that. I never felt like that was real. I watched the show. Yeah, well, I never felt like that shit was real. I felt like... You got her tatted. Yeah, but people...
Starting point is 01:29:59 He also has Hillary Clinton tattered. Yeah. How are you going to believe E-News over what they said about their relationship? Yeah, right? Very true. That's ice spice? Yeah, you ain't know she had the cheeks? natural too
Starting point is 01:30:11 You think Pete could Yo look at most face Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha She has the ill fatty Wait You're from the same block You're too old You'd be the creepy guy on the block
Starting point is 01:30:18 No no no no I just I wasn't expected to see that picture Ice Spice I never saw that picture before She's the ill fatty She's gonna leave Like you definitely probably
Starting point is 01:30:26 Like fucked her older auntie That's how young she is Well I do not believe That her and Pete Davidson are dating I do think it's funny To put Pete Davis in it I think that's the most random Couple
Starting point is 01:30:38 Is it? random Pete Davidson and Ice Spice is a random shit. Pete Davidson and Kim was pretty random too. Nah, but you can kind of sort of see that. You can kind of sort of see that. You saw Pete Davidson and Kim Kardashian dating? There might be recorded audio from this podcast of when that started of you going, this is the most random fucking thing. I may.
Starting point is 01:30:57 But again, that's because I didn't think it was real. And I still don't think that that was a real thing. This, though, definitely feels like some PR stunt. Let's just get Ice Spice's name all over the fucking internet. Not saying that she needed that, she was already hot. To prove that Pete also dates gingers, right? Well, that same way with Michael B. Because we don't want to paint Pete into a box of he only dates this type of woman.
Starting point is 01:31:20 A lot of Burnett's. The Bronx Ginger herself, Ice Spice. The Bronx Ginger. The Bronx Ginger herself. One of one. One of one. Where would they have met? Where are Pete and ICE just walking past each other?
Starting point is 01:31:33 If I'm guessing, Pete looks like he could be stumbling out of a ball. are in Inwood maybe. Pete Davidson is definitely not at a part in Wood. Why? She said she likes like cold play. Because he would never go to a place Edinwood DJ. Wait, wait, wait. Listen to what Tamaris just said.
Starting point is 01:31:51 Yeah, let's go back to that. Say that one more time? Look at her approach of this relationship. Ice Vice said that she likes cold play. And that's how she met Pete David. I just know. I just feel like what I'm, I say that to say she might be in places that you guys think that she wouldn't be at.
Starting point is 01:32:04 You think Pete David is somewhere banging cold play? Yeah. I think all. of us do. I'm not putting P in the room with Chimley. They play Colplay and Inwood sometimes. First of all, Beyonce and Jay-Z listen to Colplay,
Starting point is 01:32:18 so we're not knocking Colplay. Oh, all right. Co-play are great. We're not knocking the band. It's just more like, why would that be the glue between the Spice and the Davidson? He was, like, I don't know. I just think that this is just
Starting point is 01:32:30 a PR stunt. I know PR. I can smell a PR stunt. Puerto Rican. It just smells like a PR stunt. Drake followed Ice Vice Back on Instagram. again. So that's a good news. Oh, she must to answer this text message.
Starting point is 01:32:42 Yeah. Yo, Drake is playing a dangerous game, though, because like I said, what if she just, if she just tweet out, oh, you thought I was feeling you? Like, that just killed. Didn't she do that to him already? No. God, no.
Starting point is 01:32:56 If she, I wanted her to, I'm not going to lie. I wanted her to get that off. Like, she got to get that off. Like, oh, you thought I was feeling you? And just like, that would set the fucking algorithm's crazy. And to more ginger news, Rory, the Knicks are kicking out. ass.
Starting point is 01:33:08 Yes. Orange and blue. Okay. All right. Nix are kicking ass. Nix are sitting comfortable with the fifth seed. Doggy, doggy. They won nine out of their last 10 games.
Starting point is 01:33:17 Woo. One seven in a row. I just want apologies from everybody that told me that I was crazy for saying Julius was a fucking dog. I was saying that he's one of the best players in the league. Everybody killed me when I said that. And now look at you. I've been a Knicks fan my entire life, a suffering one.
Starting point is 01:33:33 So I'm not going to apologize. I want apologies. But they owe me apologies. People out there owe me an apology. They owe me apology, all right? What I thought you were just sticking up for your friend? I was. But I also knew that my friend was really good
Starting point is 01:33:44 and that he was going to fit right into this team and he was going to play hard for this city. And that's all Knicks fans want. We just want guys that's going to play hard, represent the city. And the Knicks are looking really good. Basketball just feels better when the Knicks are winning. It's something about the Knicks just being in the playoffs
Starting point is 01:33:59 and the Knicks being in conversations about the playoffs that just makes basketball talk more entertaining. All right. you're talking about a time that I wasn't born yet. So explain to me this time. Of the Knicks being competitive? Yes. There was,
Starting point is 01:34:13 the Charles Freewell for like two years. We were, all right. Many moons ago, Roley. Many moons ago, the Knicks were a very, very tough team in the Eastern Conference. I'm aware. I was sort of alive. Yeah, there was a guy by the name of John Starks. Yes.
Starting point is 01:34:27 Patrick, you may have heard of him. They had heard. And that's when the Knicks were a really, nobody in the East wanted to play the Knicks. But that's more of like a tragic story. if you really know how it ends. Yeah. Yeah, it ends of it. It just is not end well.
Starting point is 01:34:40 It ended that. And it was some years after that way it looked a little promising. But kind of didn't get over that hurdle. No, Mello had a season where they went to the playoffs and then that was it. First round. Yeah. But this year the Nix do look really, really good. It's just fun to hear Nix fans being able to talk their shit and playoff talk.
Starting point is 01:35:00 So shout out to the Nix. Shout out to Jalen Brunton, too, because he's been absolutely hooping. I think that Nix may have underpaid him if we're being real. He just won while we were recording the Eastern Conference Player of the Month. Jalen Brunson? As he should have.
Starting point is 01:35:15 As he should. Jalen has been hooping. I feel like he should have been an All-Star as well as our Julius. Has Nick basketball been this exciting since the Jeremy Lynn week? No. This is the most... This is the most...
Starting point is 01:35:29 This is the most exciting. The Nix, talking about the Nix has been in a lot of years. This is like... This is uncharted territory right now for Nix fans. It's making me nervous. That's why I don't really want to talk to these. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:35:41 And that's what I'm knows. Even last night, they played the Nets last night. Yeah. Crushed them. I mean. But it was a point that was up 26. And I was like, I don't know. I think they're going to blow this lead.
Starting point is 01:35:52 Like, typical Nix shit, though. Yeah, because it's just like, that's what the Knicks do. They'll be up 30. And then you'll go take a shit and come back to the TV. And it's like, they down. They only up, yeah, they only up four. And it's like, wait, what the fuck just happened? And so, but that's, again, that's what being a Nick fan is about.
Starting point is 01:36:06 It's about having anxiety. It's about having a post-traumatic stress disorder. Like, it takes a certain type of person to be a Nick fan. Like, Nick fans are the most delusional, stressed out, most anxious people on the planet by far. I hear they're the best men to date because, like, no matter how many times you disappoint them, they'll just stay loyal to you. That's not fair. As a Knicks fan, I can tell you that's not true. Yeah, I know Knicks fans that right now running amok.
Starting point is 01:36:32 I think we'll stay the... Matter of fact, we learned detachment better than anyone. Like, yeah, y'all give up easily. We can't invest too much into this team. Y'all can see when the relationship is over. Like, you know what? It's just not happening this year. It's fucking over.
Starting point is 01:36:42 Oh, we drafted who? Yeah. Bad. I think we'll stay the five seed, depending on who we play in the first time, we could get out, but we'll lose in the second round. I'm going to, I know people think that I have the worst sports takes and that nothing I say comes true.
Starting point is 01:36:58 But I'm going to say something right now. Oh, okay. Okay. And I don't, fuck it. I'm a stand on it. All right, the chip. I think the Knicks are going to make it to the Eastern Conference finals. Okay, that's not bad.
Starting point is 01:37:10 I think so, man. It's not his worst. Outside of the Celtics? You're bugging. I don't know if. Philly? Yeah, I don't believe in Phillies. I don't believe in James Hardin.
Starting point is 01:37:21 The Bucks? I like the Bucks, but. They won 15 straight? Yeah, but I just feel like the Knicks could beat them. No, not necessarily. And the seven games series, I feel like it could go. and the Knicks might win. I don't think we can beat the Bucks, the Celtics, or the Philly in a series.
Starting point is 01:37:38 I think every other team. Philly is not like that, bro. Phil. You know, James Hardin's clicking right now. He disappears every playoff. Every single playoff he's going to. Yeah, he's always lost. Every single year.
Starting point is 01:37:47 He disappears. No matter what he's due up. He's due up. Joe L. And B., want to get James out of it. 100%. He don't want to say it. He don't want to say it soon.
Starting point is 01:37:56 He knows what it's going to do to the team. But Joelle definitely wants James out of it. He does not want to play with James Harder. I don't know. James is great. regular season, James get his shit off. Yeah. Playoffs, oh my God. I'm just talking about
Starting point is 01:38:07 the history, the facts, bro. It's like, where are you at? It's not there. So between every other team, like I said, Boston, we lose them the heat, bro. I'm just going to happen. I'm saying we can take the heat. We can take the heat out. We could I don't even think the Cavs, I think the Caves
Starting point is 01:38:24 would get the better of us than 7, but I have more hope of us beating the Caves. You think the Nix can lose to the Cavs? Yes. Damn, y' y'all don't believe. They're good again. I'm not even a Knicks fan, but I think that they could beat the fucking Cavaliers. I think if we draw the heat or the Cavs, we can get out of the first round,
Starting point is 01:38:40 but it would be a good series. When we face Philly, Boston and Milwaukee, we're done. Listen, man, I'm standing on it. I got the Knicks going to the Eastern Conference finals.
Starting point is 01:38:48 I'm standing on it. Put Aaron Judge in the block, man. Standing on it. Thanks. Jake Paul finally lost his first fight to Tommy Fury. There was a one, Tommy Fury won by a split decision.
Starting point is 01:39:01 And I do believe they have a rematch clause in their contract so we'll get a guess Jake Paul Tommy Fury too Was it a good fight? I missed it It was alright I mean it was okay It wasn't a bad fight
Starting point is 01:39:17 It wasn't like if you watched it He wasn't like oh this is terrible It was a split decision It was a split decision Tommy Fury Was clearly Tommy he clearly won the fight He clearly won the fight But I think that
Starting point is 01:39:29 Jake Paul didn't look as bad As people may have thought he was gonna look with a quote-unquote, quote-unquote real boxer. They really boxed. I think he looked a little better than people thought he was going to look. Yeah. But I think that he, I don't think that he, I think that once he loses to Tommy Fury again, it might be quiet for Jake Paul.
Starting point is 01:39:47 It's not going to be quiet for Jake Paul. It's never going to be quiet. There might be value in him losing. Yeah, that's the other. There's no value in losing. I don't know. Not with his Paul brothers. Where is it value in losing at?
Starting point is 01:39:58 Because it's, this is more, as someone that has been said that Jake Paul is a real fighter and needs more respect on his name. He is more of a spectacle than he is a fighter. Yeah, but I think the lore is that he keeps winning. So that people are like, I can't believe this guy that's like a YouTube boxer is really getting in his ring and he's really beating people. Now that he starts losing, it's going to be like,
Starting point is 01:40:18 all right, dog, you're going to get hurt. Oh, and now you get, I mean, it's from the content game. Now you get more content of the fight back for the rematch. Get your head beating for content. Do what you got to do, Jake. I just think that the ticket drops his payout drops if he keeps losing. And definitely if he loses the rematch,
Starting point is 01:40:35 I don't think people are going to want to keep watching him. But yeah, man, what we got? That's it. Nothing else to say, nothing to closing. We'll be back very soon. Will we be back? God willing. Yes.
Starting point is 01:40:47 God willing. If a hitman doesn't come out. Insha'allah. Inshallah, yeah. Your own hitman. Yeah. Don't forget. Hitman doesn't hire hitman.
Starting point is 01:40:56 Never know. Patreon. No, I don't know if the hitman, like, what if Stevie J? Never mind. All right. What if that's who she talked to? What if they were misquoted in that article? This has been another episode of the Nuclear Arroyo Mall podcast.
Starting point is 01:41:13 What if she talked to D-DOT? I'd just like to thank y'all for tuning in to this crazy bunch. Thank you for taking this audio journey with us. I know it was bumpy ride was turbulence along the way. But we got you to your destination safe. Hope that you have a great day. Great night, great evening. We love you.
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