New Rory & MAL - Episode 15 | "Self Love"

Episode Date: November 2, 2021

The boys are back! Comfy in their new home at Stitcher studios, Rory & Mal jump right back into their randomness, discussing Sanaa Lathan's movie persona as a homewrecker (2:24), their new deal with Stitcher/SiriusXM (6:54), and even Dave Chapelle's controversial stand up special (14:32). Then then go into what they missed while on break, including their opinion on Meek's new album (19:45), their recent adventures in LA (30:10),  Jay-Z's induction into the Hall of Fame (1:01:07), + more!  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoicesSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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No way, no way. They could come up with nothing better than that, son. I mean, for real. I mean, what are you expecting to call it? I mean, they could call that shit anything. I mean, Juggle fever, emity, ivory. I mean, but now they might as well call the Ubor and live because that shit about to be canceled, for real.

You're a hater. No, Rory and Maw. Yeah, we'll see. No, Rory and Mow. It was a great clap. You know, I've been working on that. Give yourself a round of applause. Thank you, man.

Thank you. So I think we don't give ourselves a round of applause enough, Rory. I think that's the thing. We don't clap for ourselves. Because believing in yourself either comes across, arrogant or corny right there's really no cool way to clap to applaud yourself and say i did a great job it's so funny that self-love is like the new thing it's haters we should all love ourselves and the moment someone starts loving themselves yeah yeah can you relax yeah like relax

calm down you think you that really think you the shit yeah yeah yeah i'm just trying to you told me to love myself and i'm here i am loving yeah yeah with that said how come you won't let us be run and send the podcast delmations i don't know man i just think that's a i don't know i think that's our lane yeah but i think we're a little cooler than that we could do it i know i think that pot is mine come on no no all right i'm not gonna say the pot is mine i'm not gonna do that i'm not with you on that one i don't know if people watched brown sugar anymore but dray was kind of he was hating with that real hip-hop shit that ho his mind was a hit him storming out the studio it was ahead of the justice of hip-hop yeah it was ahead of his time i think today out of here back then that's not where we were at

with rap and hip hop. No, that's where that's exactly where it was at. The hole was mine? What was that? 04. I think we're more in the whole era now.

They was making some crazy shit in 04. No, for sure, but it was frowned upon. It wasn't as mainstream as it is today. If you don't have hole in your hook today, it's not breaking top 10 radio.

Brown Sugar was a very interesting movie. I love that movie. I do too. It's a classic. But like, running down with most deaf in Hot 97. Most deaf was a cab driver?

Yeah, and his name was cabby cab. Yeah. Who thought it about? No, no, seriously, who thought about that? We got to talk to the producers about that one. That was a terrible name. I just want to know, like, that subplot story of most deaf and Queen Latifah getting

together to might have been the greatest shabre. Why is Sinai Lathen a homewrecker on every movie? Every movie? Loving basketball. She didn't wreck a home in loving basketball. She played one-on-one and ended a marriage. She lost. And ended up.

They were getting married the next day. And all she had to do was. a crossover. Quincey said double of nothing. She didn't say it. Quincy said double of nothing. She played one-on-one for his heart. Yeah, she lost. Like, he was thrashing her, actually. He dumped on all that. He wasn't

trying to be with her. He dumped on her. What are we talking about? He actually dumped on her, bro. He had a torn fucking hamstring. He took his brace off. He took the brace off. I don't like you. I don't want to be with you. And then, you know, he thought about it and double of nothing. And that was kind of like.

And then he became a, house husband. Look what happened to him. Yeah, he was courtside and daughter. Nastyness. Nasty. And let her keep her last name. Hyphenate, yo, come on. She didn't hyphen it? She hyphen it. Did she? She was Quincy McCall, whatever Sinai Lathan's name was. Quincey Wright McCall or thing, something like that. Yeah. And she was a home wrecker in Brown Sugar. She didn't, she didn't wreck a home in loving basketball. Just because

you love somebody first, just because she was always the first girl that was loved and then fucked it up doesn't mean you can now come and ruin a marriage. Well, I don't think Quincy was happy. love KRS 1. Like he loves KRS 1. Yeah, but he wasn't happy with his wife in loving basketball. You could tell he wasn't happy with her. What? Wasn't it a famous girl?

Who played it? Tyra Banks. Come on. He was happy with Tyra Bank. And she was a flight attendant. Buddy Passes. And I think that was like the second movie where they were a couple because they, and High Learning Tyra Banks went together.

Yeah. They say that same is. I wonder if Omar Epps's wife feeling type of way when she sees Tyra Banks. Like you might really like my husband. Could be a thing. Yeah. And I feel like in the, she wasn't in the wood. Was she in the wood?

Tyra Banks, no. No, not Tarry Banks. Sinai Lathan. Sanai Lathan, yes, she was. She was at a wedding that was about to get ruined. Yeah. So she is still kind of like a factor. Was it Sinai?

The best man. Nealong was the original love. Karma's coming back to her. Mm-hmm. Yeah. We got to get down to Sinai Lathan and her being a really good actress in particular roles. Well, she's a really good actress.

She is. Most importantly, she's a beautiful woman. And I just think that, you know, you can her personality is always seems to fit with the guys like the guys gravitate towards her because she's usually either into the same things guys like or she's just you know that type of woman where it's like I get along where I like her which she might be in real life I don't like the girls I don't like the girls that pretend they're like the the guy girl like just because you could watch a game and you like the bridges over like you're not one of the guys I hate when

girls try to do that yeah and you got to be careful nowadays too because when Women will act like they're down and just sit in the crib and watch the game with you, and then they'll be on their phone the whole time, like, flirting with another guy. So it really doesn't even count. That sounds very specific. Oh, no. That seems. Oh, yeah, no, these are my bars.

Yeah, these are my balls. I'm spitting right here. Yeah, I wrote that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Which, was it a playoff game? Were you, like, invested? It was a regular season game. Did she have a privacy screen?

No. But she had her angles were, she knew how to angle herself to which I couldn't see her phone. And it was kind of like, you know. Do you pay attention to some of the adjustments on the couch? Yeah, absolutely. I know it because I myself have done the adjustments. Like, I can pick it out because I've done it. You got to pay attention more so not the adjustment.

You got to pay attention to the body language when you walk back in the room and they're on their phone. Like if she, when you walk back in now, she's done texting all of a sudden. It's like, why is the conversation over now? Immediately went right to the Twitter app. Yeah, like, why has a tweet says, oh nine. Exactly. Like, why are you, why now do you feel like the conversation should be over? Yeah.

And I'm jealous enough that I don't even really like when chicks be on meme pages and laughing to her. Like just go go be with Justin Leboy then. He seems to make you fucking smile. Is that still a thing? Like his page? Is it still a problem? It is? Yeah, that's a thing.

Okay. I feel like your brother does like mature Justin LaBoy. He's like the adult. Yeah, he's like the, I went through all that toxicity. He's Justin's OG. Yeah, yeah. Like Justin is running the block right now and Biggs is like walking in and out of the building. I told him he needs to find a way to, hey, young man.

Yeah, like he needs to find a way to, I don't know, watermark that or something, because I'll be seeing that shit, his shit everywhere and people don't credit it. And I'm like, yo, bro, you need to, like, watermark that. Like, because anybody could use that font and that black backdrop and say it was theirs. I do have a little bit of a beef with your brother. Why, what happened? Appreciate everything that he's done for us more than he knows. But to make the world think that I have. have $10 million has added

quite an inconvenience to my life. Yeah, I mean, yeah. Dog, the movers went to my fucking storage unit. Three of them come out. Hey, 10 million dollars! I'm like, uh, yeah.

No. And not only that, they feel like you got it on you cash. Of course, yeah. Right here. Stitcher was like, yo, yeah, yeah, it's 10 mil. Yeah, man. I mean, I I get it. I understand. He was just,

he was more so happy for us, though. Oh, I know he was. I appreciate it. He was happy for us. He was excited. And, you know, it was, like, we had put in all his work behind the scenes

and with the team and everybody. So, you know, but he hit me, he hit me before he sent it out. Oh, so this is your fault? I said, yeah, I don't care. Okay. Put it out.

I would have cared. Even DeMaris came back. Like, nah, I'm going to need double up on my shit. She's trying to get him. DeMaris trying to renegotiate? Yeah. I had a nice little $500 extra on it. Like, yeah, I can go this far.

This is my ceiling right here. Yeah. Like, I don't, me and more have been paid yet. Yeah, no. But it was, it was, it was, it was fun, man, to watch, you know, the internet, react to everything and the support. And even the hate that we got for it. I love it. I love seeing the hate more than actually the support.

I'm weird like that. I like to see who's upset about success. I like the quiet congratulational hate. Yeah. Like, oh damn, they got that. Good for them. Yeah. Good for them is, you never mean good for them.

Like when you say, like, good for them. Oh, damn, they got that? Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Yeah, no, I just want to see everyone succeed. Somebody DM me and it was like, it was weird because we never really had like a a DM conversation before.

And I don't know if they were congratulating me or confused on how we acquired that much money. Was I DMing you? No, it was, no, it wasn't true. But it was like, it was like. It's like, word. Like, damn, I'm in the wrong profession. Mm. I don't know if you are, sir.

I don't know if you're in a wrong profession or not. I can't tell you. What did this person do? This person's a singer. Okay. He's a singer. I like him too, real talented. Mm-hmm.

But, yeah, it was kind of weird. It was like, are you happy for us, or are you mad that you're singing and didn't make this much money? I don't know. I feel like I got that same DM and I can't remember who it was. You probably did. We know. We're mutual. friends. Okay. But it was weird. I was like, yo, I fuck with you, bro. Like, I don't,

you want to come to podcast? Yeah, like, this is kind of weird. Is this your way of asking you to borrow money? Yeah, it was, it was a little weird. But, you know, more importantly, I think that people, the general consensus is people are happy, um, that we were able to, you know, pivot and do what we wanted to do and still retain ownership of our show. But shout out to Moore's sauce. Yeah. Shout out to Jazz. Shout out to Sirius, Stitcher. Um, so yeah, this is the start of a A beautiful relationship, man. It just feels good. Yeah.

This is why we, you know, we wanted to come and not make this partnership having because we just, we love the energy from day one. I think that was the one thing that we talked about. We just, we just enjoyed how interested in how vested they were in us. Yeah, it was funny because they were one of the first people that reached out and what they sent over. I mean, I remember joking within the group chat. Like, are they sure? Right. Like, they're giving us pretty much every last thing that we would ask for.

And then, of course, we did our due diligence and talked to other people and just, kept going back like, I don't know, man. Yeah. A serious deal kind of seems like the one. Even if there is bigger money offers, this seems like the one that makes the most sense for us. So it's been great. But, you know, we're with Stitcher, more sauce serious now.

We're available wherever podcasts are available. So it's not like you have to go find some fucking app that doesn't work. For free. Yes. People were asking if they would have to pay, you know, just go find us wherever you find your podcast at. We're right there. Continue to follow us on social media's.

new Rory Moll added the S to that social medias What is with the hood and adding plurals What is with hood plurals? I mean Meek Mills his name is Meek Mill Great Adventures It's called Great Adventure

I don't know if the Barnes and Nobles It's called Barnes and Noble Did the hood do that? Yes The hood definitely did that Okay I mean I think that's because

We're so used to not having a lot Mm-hmm So you kind of want to just like Put extras on everything Tell Biggs to put that In the me Yeah And then tag you

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, I think that's more, I think that's what it is, man. We just so used to not having shit. So when we do have it, we go overboard. That's all. Got to add the plural to it. Yeah, you got to it. I get it. I understand. All right. Well, we're, uh, we're available every Tuesday and Friday episodes twice a week. Yes. It'll be us. Excited. It'll be some guests. It'll be some random people. It'll be our friends in here. Have fun. We're going to have fun. Talk shit. Talk about the culture, music, sports. It's a lot of good series out, Roy. TV is great right now. Of course. I'm loving TV right now. I can't. I can't. I'm just loving it. I do want to get into that squid game ending in a little bit.

We'll get to that eventually. Here we go. Okay. Like we got to talk about it. No, we will. That was some weird shit. But first day in- Oh, that was the weird shit about that whole thing, the ending.

Yes. The fucking, the first episode was weird shit. That's why I couldn't turn it off. I was like, what is this? I mean, it's just gambling in a nutshell. Like, if you don't pay your debts, you're going to get killed. Yeah, there was a lot of like real undertones about life in that. Impulsive people.

Yeah, yeah. Attics. Yeah. No, there's a lot of symbolism, if you want that in that. in that show. Absolutely. But we will get to that. I will say our first day

in the studio that we tried to build out, we're still working on, but I think it was good for the first episode. I'm a little upset you brought a L.A. hat. Listen, man.

We're looking very west coastier, not that I don't love the bay in L.A. This is the great thing about us having, you know, our own spot is that now we can do whatever the fuck we want. So, you know, we do we'll change some shit and we'll add, you know,

some of our favorite pieces from our favorite people up here and, you know, add some aesthetics to the thing. But this is, you know, This is just for now. It's okay. We'll switch it up. Luckily, Carl did Niki has tomorrow.

Did Nix colors at least so we can have something going on here. Go Nix. And then the subway. And then I see now you're biting off my style. You see you. You've seen me rock these. I will give you credit. So when we had our photo shoot, you had these on.

And I kind of felt like I had those. Okay. So I was buying your style. No, no, no. I would never say that because you definitely are the new balance God. I would never take that title from you. But I looked at him and I'm like, damn, I think I have those. which I do a lot with sneakers because I have a lot of sneakers in the clear boxes,

but a lot I keep the box because of the art and all of that. So you don't know which sneakers those are unless you open the box. So a lot of times I go through my sneakers and I open boxes and I'm like, shit, I forgot I had these. But when I see them on somebody's feet, I'm like, those are fire. So when I saw you at the photo shoot, I'm like, damn, those are hard. I think I got those. And then I went home and I found them. So I was like, you know, what did it?

Was it like my ankle ratio to the 990? Was it how my pants laid on? it no you have a good uh you have a good uh older gentleman aesthetic about you i mean i feel like an old soul yeah like you know i don't know if you're going to brunch or you're going to pick up the kids from uh daycare but you have that versatile yeah you have you're dressed for all occasions i got holes in my shirt that's an aesthetic that's part of it's humble yeah exactly got to let people know yeah the 10 million didn't clear yet don't worry about that um every other week i eat ramen just to remind myself stay humble stay grounded so yeah i saw these on your feet and i was like yo

those are fire and then sure enough i had them so it was kind of like damn i got to i got a break these out for the fall. I will ask you just to really get this this deal popped off. We're in the building. How do you feel that there is a all-gender bathroom and then just a woman's bathroom? We need to talk to, I don't know, we talk to Jasmine about that. We need to talk to somebody. I don't like it. I feel a little left out. I feel not represented. It's an all-gender and then there's a, but there's a men's bathroom, too, but they got us like in the back and the cut, like, back of the bus type of thing. If it's all gender, then why would there need to, so women get all the bathrooms? Yeah. Mm-hmm.

Okay. No, I'm just Listen, what do you want me to do? I thought Chappelle's stand-up was very offensive. I still don't understand how people are trying to cancel Dave Chappelle.

They're not. And we got to stop with that because they're not trying to cancel them. They are. They're just upset about... There's groups popping up everywhere trying to cancel Dave Chappelle and it's like, did y'all miss what he was saying?

Like, he doesn't have an issue with anybody. Like, it's not, he doesn't have a problem with people. He doesn't care about your preference or whatever. Like, just stop, cut it out. He had a real relationship with a trans. Is it a transgender? I don't want to be, I don't want to offend anybody. Like, what are they?

Yes, transgender. He had a real relationship with a transgender woman. And he spoke about that. And he was like, you know, y'all bullied her when she was showing support for me on the internet. Yeah. And then so she ended up killing herself, which is a terrible ending to a story. But it was just him letting you know, like, listen, y'all, whatever y'all see on, you know, social media and all of this, like, that's not real. In real life, I have real relationships with people.

And that's the most important thing. So for people to still be calling for Dave Chappelle to be canceled after that, it's just like, all right, man, y'all just missed the whole point. Yeah, because I thought, and we all know Chappelle's super intelligent. I thought he brought it all together. And of course you're going to get jokes in between that entire thing. But comedy is supposed to, one, obviously, make you laugh. And if you didn't laugh, turn it off. Make you think.

Make you laugh. Look at the absurdities of some of the things that are going on in life. And that's not, there shouldn't be equal rights for everyone. It's just some of the absurdities that we throw in to that conversation. in that fight. That's what comedy's supposed to do. And in a funny way, he made it. So it's like, okay, you want to be treated equal.

Part of being treated equal is you're going to be talked about. I saw everybody's talked about. I saw a white, Asian, doesn't matter what your sexual preference is. Everybody is talked about. So a really, really shitty tweet that was getting a lot of traction. I hate when shitty tweets get traction. Those usually get the most traction. Somebody said, Chappelle left his show because of the white audience that was watching it.

And now his audience is that same audience. He left the original Chappelle show? Mm-hmm. That's not why he left the original Chappelle. Of course it's not. He did make comments of saying he was confused on who was watching it and why they were laughing. Mm-hmm. Because sometimes he would be on set and somebody would laugh at a joke that it's like, nah, are they laughing at me or with me?

Mm-hmm. So that was definitely not the full part, obviously. But there was, he has spoke about that in interviews. Right. It's hard for me to understand how somebody gets a hateful vibe from Dave Chappelle. Like, I just don't understand it. It's like, you think that this man hates people because of their sexual preference. I just don't, I don't know, man.

I think everybody is just quick to be offended these days. And even if you say something direct and you're saying what you mean, they can still bend it to be like, oh, so what are you trying to say? It's like, that's not what I'm trying to say. Yeah. I said what I'm trying to say. Yeah. You're bending it to fit whatever narrative you're trying to create about me.

And it's wrong. So. We went to a roast battle in LA. We did. Which was an interesting. Very offensive if you were on that size. Well, they, I understood why. When we first walked in, they was telling us that we had to put

our phones in a bag. And my thought was, okay, maybe like a celebrity is going to do a set tonight and they don't want to be recorded. But it was because of the content and things that they were saying. And you and I were in there laughing. We had a great time. Like, some of those jokes, easily somebody could be offended. Oh, 100%.

Especially 2021. A lot of people would have been offended. But it felt good being in there with those people where everybody in the room understood this is just jokes. It's just comedy. Just put shit in perspective of the internet shit. Like, you can live in different worlds. If you don't like that type of content or you think that shit is offensive, just don't watch it.

Don't watch it. No one is actually harming anyone up there. Their words, their jokes, everyone hugs at the end. So it's nice to be in that environment. I wish I remember the guy's name that was sitting on the side of the stage that was kind of like one of the judges. Oh, yeah, yeah. The Indian guy? Yeah.

He was hilarious. No, he went fucking crazy. He was hilarious. hosting the IG Live. I don't know if he'll ever make it mainstream because his jokes are very offensive. I would love to have him on the podcast. But he's hilarious. He's hilarious. We got to find his name. And he was not Indian. That's very racist of you. He was he was Arab. Oh, I thought he was really? Well, he was playing an Arab guy. I don't he could just be some white guy from, you know, Glendale. He definitely was not a white guy. I can promise you that. He was Middle Eastern for sure.

All right, man. We missed a lot. Missed a lot in October. A lot did happen. A lot of music happened. A lot of music happened. A lot of music didn't happen too at the same time. But I guess we'll get into it. I was a little outside of a few projects. I was a little underwhelmed. Some I was anticipating and

had higher hopes for. I think there's joints on that Meek album, but here's like where I feel like Meek's Catch 22 comes in. Meek I've always appreciated. of those artists that keeps up with the kids the kids fuck with him he always reaches down to the kids

that are coming up like he's one of those that i've always appreciated as far as him being now at this point almost a decade or a decade into his career probably i felt on this one he went too much that way okay i kind of wanted more of the rapping meek not today he's not rapping on there but the rapping meek then kind of the dirk era sound meek Right. So I guess I'm just a customer you can't please in this disregard because I do love that that's what he's always done in his career. He's always went and got the younger kids and sounds good with the younger kids. He doesn't sound like that old guy in the club.

This one felt like maybe Meek went too far with that. Yeah, I'm on the same vibe with you. I was disappointed only because, again, it didn't. It was kind of like what you said about Drake's album, how you were. were disappointed because you were looking for, looking for Drake to take the next step as far as like music and content and, and elevate his, his sound. I feel like that with this Meek project. I feel like he, he didn't really give us anything different. He didn't give us anything new. I think he, you know, you say sounding like the younger guys or getting the

young guys, I think it was too much of him reaching back into that bag and not reaching forward into just evolving as an artist. Like, you know, Meek is, the raps are going to be there. He can rap any day of the week. We know that about Meek, his raps are there. But he didn't take that step forward in his career musically with this project to me. And I was disappointed in that because, and I thought it was real important, too, that he did that, especially since, you know, for the most part, a lot of people were underwhelmed by the Drake

project. And I hate to always pin these two artists against each other, but it is what it is at this point. You know, if they're dropping around the same time, especially with the history of their careers, they're always going to kind of be what the Meek do, what the Drake do. It's just going to always be that. And I think that Meek had an opportunity to kind of like leap forward

in his career musically with this project, and he didn't, in my opinion, my humble opinion, I don't think he did. It's still good songs on there. It's still good, obviously good raps because he can rap his ass off. But I just think collectively, just the music, It just didn't it didn't really stick to me the way I thought it would with this project. Championships I love.

That's probably my favorite Meek album. And I felt with the championships album felt like Meek was taking, I don't want to say maturity, but he was taking another step like into his 30s type of rap, but it still sounded relevant to what was going on at the time. And I felt like he took a step back from championships. Like the way he used to bring the kids into his world and it would sound good, he went too much into their world. Yeah.

This album is their world. Like, listen, I can appreciate, I even said about the Drake album, experiment try other things. I appreciate that Meek is trying to sing. I don't need Meek to sing. I just don't.

Okay, yeah, yeah. So that's where I felt. And yeah, I can see that comparison with the Drake album. I have been listening to the Drake album outside, though. It changed a bit. Not to move off of the Meek album and go right back into Drake's album,

but a lot of the records that you know, we heard while we were in the house. Like the way too sexy, I still cannot play that record. I can't listen to that record. I can't. But I saw what it does when you're in that type of environment. You feel sexy. You feel way too sexy.

I may have ordered a Cosmo. I'm not going to lie. Like, I felt like ordering a cosmopolitan. Like, I was at the, almost. I didn't. Almost, almost. But I didn't. Have you ever judged enough and, like, was out and thought,

all right, maybe you shouldn't be singing this song? Absolutely. But you want people to have self-love. I do. But I just can't say I'm way too sexy. I've never felt like I was way too sexy for anything. I'm too sexy for my taste. And if you're not into my taste, you're, yeah, we have to.

You're not sexy enough. Of course. Okay, I got you. I know a lot of people don't like the song fucking fans. That's starting to become my favorite song. Do you think Shorty was a little, like, I think she was a little too hard on Drake? On fucking fans? All right, I'm going to put it this way.

A little too hard? No. I don't think so. How many women have you met in your life that are not Drake fans? Not many. Who can he fuck then? Wait, see, no, we can't do that because in this- Who can he fuck?

We can't do that because- It was shameful. I was out fucking fans. What girl is not a Drake fan? Yeah, but- Who isn't Drake fuck? Yeah, but it's, I think it's different, though. I know what you mean.

Like, every, what woman is Drake gonna meet that's not a fan of it? Exactly. I get it. No, I totally understand that. But I think it's more so like, you know, like the super fan. where it's like, oh my God, Drake. Yeah, women are going to love his music, but it's like, don't be like a fan, though. But it's great.

Appreciate my music, but don't be a fan. Like, I can't fuck my fans. If I fuck a fan, it's shameful and weird. I did. Nasty. We'll never do it again. I promise you. It would never happen again.

I don't even know why she was a fan of mine. I'm like, I'm nobody. It was a regular guy. Did you stick your dick in and she, well, that's crazy? See, this is where you try to pull me into your bullshit. I'm asking. No, she didn't say that, Rory.

She didn't say that's crazy. That could be kind of ill, though. No, it would have been. Because you want a girl to be like, oh, that's crazy. Well, it depends the tone she says it. Yeah. Yeah.

Because it can go either way. Yeah. That's crazy. Like, damn, that's all you got. Is it disappointed? Exactly. Exactly. No.

Then you try to overcompensate and like fuck her harder. Yeah, no, that doesn't. It doesn't work. Fuck harder and faster is never the... The louder the clap doesn't mean the better. You're doing it right now. It don't mean you killing it.

No. But yeah, no, that's nasty. I would, it's just a nasty feeling. But that's why I just think we don't go deep dive into how toxic women are. Because I was listening to that fucking fans record. And on the surface level, you can hear like, all right, yeah, show there's a point. Like, she was at home, like concerned. Drake's out there fucking.

He's Drake. The girl's going to be a fan. Nine times out of a thing, yes. You should say, hey, you should stop fucking women. But again, it's a difference, though, because you can like what somebody does and like their art, but the fandom shit is where it gets weird. Like, she shouldn't be running, screaming, yelling, oh my God, Drake. That's just a little weird.

You don't never want to do that. Obviously, Drake knows if he goes on a date with a woman. She knows him and who he is and, you know, he knows that. But don't be a fan. Don't sit here and ask me about my work the entire, like, date. Like, don't do that. I mean, maybe she's on an intellectual level and really wants to get to know Aubrey and who he is.

Maybe, but, again, I understand. Maybe the fans were. giving him actual the love that he wasn't getting at home. Maybe he needed that praise. Like sometimes you need that specific person to tell you that they're a fan of you. Like I had to fuck fans because my girl wasn't even a fan. Like we didn't get the other side of. Oh, okay.

Drake was telling her story. Oh, okay. Got you. See, you might have just did something like that. He didn't really get into his side of that. Right. But, you know, it's neither here nor there. Yeah.

Certified lover boy. In stores now. Go copy if you had. And I've read that he's still number one on Billboard, which is crazy to me. I don't think so. I mean, I don't think that's crazy. No? That's fucking Drake, man.

Yeah, but God damn, man. That's whatever. But yeah. I didn't see you defending your girl. Who? You know, you know, women will submit when they feel safe, right? And I feel like you have not been protecting summer. Like, I feel like she feels very vulnerable out here because I haven't seen you speak over her once.

You know why? Don't speak up for me in private and then not in public. No, absolutely. I'm with that all the way. But you know why I haven't really. I haven't really fed into, like, people not loving the first single because, first of all, just it's starting to change. People are starting to like it now. Which I knew was going to happen.

It's a great fucking record. Right. But I think people wanted her to come out the gate with sad, emotional R&B shit. Yeah. And they weren't expecting a up-tempo record. Which I guess if you look at how, like, the rollout started was still over it and, like, the track list of the X's and all that shit. Yeah, you do kind of throw me off when you come out with that type of record. Now, granted, when I heard that record before, I was like, oh, that's a, everyone's going to love that.

Not thinking, oh, yeah. They want hurt fucking summer. Right. We've seen all this public shit that's going on. Exactly. But I knew, give it a month. That record is. When you hear that record in the sequence of the album, that's when people are going to.

I'm sorry, the rest of us. We were waiting for the release date. We didn't get the pink hard drive. Did she send you the pink hard drive? No, she didn't send me the pink. Oh, that was your hard drive. They had it on 125th and I text Justice. I say,

yo, is the music really on that hard drive? Because I have the homies go over there and break that class right now. That glass is not going to stop the homies from Linux. I can promise you that. But no, hearing that song in the sequence, because when I heard it,

it wasn't probably sequenced the way it is now. But when Justice played it for me at the studio, when I heard that, I wasn't expecting that up tempo. And I was like, oh, this is hard. Yeah.

So when they put it out as a single, I wasn't expecting that. I'll be honest. I didn't think that was going to be the first single. But I still don't. love the record. I've seen more people say they like the record now. But in the sequence of that album, people are going to love it. It's going to be one of those songs that people be like, damn, we hated it when it first dropped. But I'm still on record saying that

summer will have the album of the year. Okay. Hands down. Like that her album is ridiculous. Shout out to Sean Garrett. Everybody that worked on the album, shout out to Justice. Um, yeah, the albums, it's incredible. It's this Friday. This Friday. Okay. This Friday. Unless something happens you know I just I don't know but I can I don't think any of that will happen I think that it comes this Friday and the people are gonna love it well I'm glad you're finally sticking up for your girl yeah no because people are just people want to just judge shit and just hate shit it's just like you can't convince people to just relax and just enjoy music anymore like people want to react and I get it I understand uh Wiley album came out for Lauren too while he did come out I was in uh

we was in L.A. when it when they dropped you was running around being a hussy well I wasn't being a hussy. I was just outside, man. Making your rounds, as they said. That's me and a hussy. Like, if you just go out now, just like, look at you being a hussy. No, you were being a hussy in L.A. I was minding my business. I looked out the window and saw you walking down the street. Who walks in L.A.? I'm like, look at Rory walking.

Yeah, I was walking. I was walking. I was walking in L.A. right? I was no secret that we always take the mantra. We have guns, so try it. I'm walking down sunset to whatever that little what's that the pink dot. We love Pink Dot.

We have Pink Dot assassins. It's the only corner store in LA. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's our corner store. Yeah. So I went over there to grab, like, some shit, right? Mm-hmm. It's like, I don't know, 9 p.m.

Mm-hmm. And, you know, for people that don't know, the Pink Dot, you walk right on sunset, which is like a pretty major street in L.A. And there's a red light right there. It's at, uh, sunset. You push the crosswalk button. It's such a. I know you pushed the crosswalk button.

Only in L.A. Because it doesn't work in New York. It doesn't work in New York. And standing in L. You feel like, yo, this light is never going to change. I've been standing here five minutes and this light hasn't changed. LA, that shit actually works. So, yes, I do hit it.

Yeah, it works. So I'm on my phone. I hit the button. And I look up, I don't know if it was this person, but not many people on earth look like this person. Raise my fucking head up. It was a black suburban. I'm face-to-face with six-nine. Yeah, you told me about that.

I'm like, when you called me and told me that, I was like, bro, that sounds like a Kirby enthusiasm episode. I can't, honestly, I could be lying right now. I just don't know anyone else that looks like it. At the red light, I'm talking from me to this computer. I pick my head up to see if that light shaged. I'm face-to-face with face-tat. He didn't say nothing to you?

No, I mean, he looked that way, but it was night time, and I know he probably doesn't care. He didn't know what was you. I don't think 6-9 knows who I am. Nor do I care that he does. He didn't know it was you. It was just funny, like. Like, what are the odds? Yeah.

Why am I looking at 6-9 right? Yeah, on sunset coming out of pink dot. Yeah, that's just a random ass story. But yeah, LA, we was out there. Walee put an album out. He put his project out. A couple of joints on there I really like. Yeah, I want to, I hate to use that.

Live with it more excuse shit, but I do need more time with it. Why was that? Because I didn't really get much time. First listen. First listen. No, I definitely liked it. I definitely, definitely liked it. What is it with Wale?

What is the disconnect? Wiley, who, Everyone knows I've been a super Walee stand. I love Wally. And supporter for a very, very long time. I'll tell you what Walee needs. Walee needs a girlfriend that everyone likes. He needs a girlfriend that everyone likes.

Walee makes great music. Wale makes radio friendly music. Wale makes club music. Wale makes introspective music. Wale makes... He checks every list of a rapper. His perception of his personality is what... And Walee hangs out with a lot of the fucking...

industry people. He makes his rounds. He goes out and does appearances. People like Waleigh. He fucks with other artists. He checks everything. There's only one thing that could change Waleigh. He needs to find a girl. I'm not talking about some Instagram bitch. No. I'm sorry. He's where bitch. But bitch is not gender specific. Could be man or woman. I know a few man bitches.

Exactly. He needs to find that girl that everybody, that down-to-earth cool chick that everybody likes and it will change his perception. I've watched it happen with so many artists. That's the only thing Waleigh is missing is to find the cool chick that everybody likes and then it'll make him more likable. So you think it's people don't like Waleigh? Because we spoke about it before and it was just weird how it became cool for people

to not like Waleigh. And I didn't understand it. I'm like, did I miss something? Did he say something that offended people? Did he? No, but that's just that's an internet. thing too. It was cool not to like coal and we clearly saw that did not matter.

So why does it matter with Waleigh? Is it the music? Because Waleigh's music and fan base is so internet focused. Coals, on the other hand, was outside of just internet shit. So when that whole fucking coal was sleepy, coal is boring, coal is whack, coal doesn't have any singles,

that shit didn't matter because Cole was in the world. Not to say Wale hasn't, but Wale was ahead of the game too with the internet shit. Cole was not the internet guy Walee was in that internet shit So a lot of his fan base is there A lot of his recognition

And the shit he gets comes from the internet But there is that that fucking corny bullshit When it becomes cool to hate somebody I think Waleigh should lock in with one producer Okay And create a Walee sound I mean in the early days he did with the go-go drums Mixed more with the rap shit

I think he did a good job with that And he still goes back to that Yeah I think that's what Wiley should do for his next project. Just lock in with one producer. About seven to eight joints. Wiley, stop focusing on music.

Getting them DMs, find you a good girl. No, no, no, no, don't give Wiley that advice. Don't get you a good girl, man. But who's to say he doesn't have a girl?

That's true. I don't know his personal life. Yeah, like, I think, you know, oh, that's what I'm saying. All right,

make it a thing. Well, go public. Tell Shorty, yeah, let's do a photo shoot at them all. Yeah, it's just weird, man,

because while he's talented and, um, He makes a lot of dope records. Like, I still don't know how that record with him in G.E.Z wasn't, like, a bigger record. Yeah. The record was crazy to me. Yeah.

But, um. The Sean album, yeah. Yeah, but I just don't get it, but I like the album. I mean, I'm not, you know, in love with it. But I like it. It's a few joints on there that I've played over and over. But it's just, I don't know, man. It's just weird, but while it is.

It's just like, I don't know what it is, and I can't figure it out. I don't know what the disconnect is with the fan base or, you know, with the people. But I think that, you know, most importantly, when the music is top tier, that supersedes everything. That goes above and beyond. So I think he, I think Waleigh needs to lock in with like one producer. Yeah, you'd be, you'd be surprised, and this doesn't be a Wale thing. Women love women or women like to follow women and pretend they like women. So if you have a woman that's liked, you kind of become likable by all the girls.

They will give your shit a certain chance. they will even follow you because they want to see cute couple shit and they like that girl already and then you automatically become likable to so women are the curator of the curators of success of course 100% okay and likability oh yeah like the women like you if if dudes like you it's usually a bad thing like yo if all the fellas are feeling you you're probably doing some shitty stuff yeah but but but but guys like what women like so if all the women are gravitating towards this artist and they're going to see this artist like the guys are going to follow

just because they want to go where all the women at. So I can understand how women are, you know, they determine what's hot and what's not. I get it. Women determine perception. That's what they determine. And not to say, and this is, of course, we're being general in that capacity.

I'm talking about more or less how artists are viewed. They determine perception and how far that can go. Because especially with a couple shit, because we're in that era, like when we grew up rappers, if they had a girlfriend, it was the weirdest thing in the world.

Right. You can't even say. you gotta be the single rapper do now you kind of have to be in a relationship for shit to be hot and that comes with a perception online and not just rappers do this everyone in the world does this you pretend like you're in the greatest

relationship you've ever seen it's literally a show it's like the same reason people buy movie tickets for those superhero movies because everything works out in the end it's like that doesn't happen in life so we want to watch shit that we think is happy like yeah I pay 12 bucks to watch some happy shit yeah but I was I felt some type of way

when Tony Stark died. I almost walked out and asked for a refund after that. I'm not going to lie to you. I wasn't expecting that. That caught me off guard. And I still feel some type of way about that, that they killed Iron Man. I get it.

Yeah, I didn't like that. I really didn't like that. Who do I talk to about that? Marvel? I mean, shit just changed with movies like, once all the sports movies, like they started losing, I was like, oh, shit is changing.

Like, the Mighty Ducks never lost. Now I'm watching Coach Carter, losing in the first round. I'm like, I don't want some moral fucking lesson. Win the championship. They'd be losing on a bullshit jump shot too. It's like, why would you even take that shot? Like, I knew you was going to lose it.

Yeah, I don't need to see this shit. Fucking Friday night lights. That was a good movie, though. You lost. Yeah. Yeah, no, I want to watch a movie about Dallas Carter. Not y'all bummed. Show me the championship team.

Oh, man. But no, Big Sean Hit Boy, which we can get more into next episode of what we have coming up. So I want to get too much into that. But definitely good to see. see Sean off good music. I think that's well deserved. Yeah. I think,

and I think it was about, we gotta start having real talks about, uh, creatives that are like stuck in these contracts still. Well, I mean, they signed so long ago when shit was so standard that it's a little different that those record contracts were like binding at that time.

Like even, it was good to see. Yeah, but Drake, while they call all them, Sean, everyone put shit out this year. But they're all from that era.

of shitty, shitty contracts. Yeah, but I'm also have a problem when the person that they have a contract with is a creative as well and knows that this person is in the shitty contract and won't let them out. And then also tweeted for a week, I can't wait to give everyone their masters back. And how do we get everyone's master's back?

It's just, I just think that. That came and went. Yeah, like, it's just like, why? How are we, how is it still a thing? Like, how are these dope-ass artists and these dope-ass creative still in these contracts with other or, under dope artists and creatives.

And they want to get out. They've made it public that they want to get out of these contracts. They want to get away from these. And not necessarily for bad things. It's just that sometimes you're signed to a creative that's so big. That it really is like it's pointless because it's like you're always going to be the priority. Yeah. You know what I'm saying?

Because you're just that big of an artist and a creative. Like you're always going to be the guy. So let me go somewhere else. Like I always say, again, I go back to Little Wayne. to me he's the realest nigger ever because for him to step out of the way of drake and nicky of drake and nicky and let them become who they are when wayne was who he was at the time

it's something that says a lot about wayne's character as a man as a person but he was able to take his ego and be like yo i believe in these two artists let me get out of their way and let it be about them let them go and not every artist we know yay we know yay we know yay with his track record with certain. Yeah, but it's just fucked up, man, because you got these dope-ass,

you know, I saw Tiana while we were in L.A. and had a real dope conversation with her. And, you know, it's just fucked up because it's like, you know, to hear her say, yo, I'm not doing anything. I'm not putting out no more music until, you know,

this contract situation is taken care of. She shouldn't have to do that. You know what I mean? Especially when you're assigned to someone or you're signed under someone that understands the creative shit and understands how dope you are as a creative like who doesn't know how dope tiana is as a creative not just music of course just creative you know what i mean like she's a she's a she's a she's a star she's a probably a dope or creative than musician and she's a great musician you understand what i'm saying

so it's just it's just sad to see that these artists are still in these positions in 2021 when we have all this information and we know about how fucked up these contracts are and how fucked up the music business contracts, all that we've been signing for years. It's like, how are we not away from that yet? But that's not all-Ye, though. No, I'm not saying it's all-Ye. I wouldn't say that. You got to think, Def Jam of what they've been going through.

And obviously, Kanye is the one that would keep the lights on over there right now. And his imprint happens to keep the lights on, too. So who even knows Kanye could have went up there and said, you know, get me off, release all this shit, give Sean his shit back. Kanye is only entitled to half of Sean's masters, not all of them. so yeah i can see yeah they're dope artists but lawyers are doper so that that's where it comes so i'm happy shaw got out of that shit and i'm happy he can do shit like eps like i i think that's ill that the top tier artists he's that type of artist too that can put out shit like that and with hit boy he's been with forever so i think it's cool and i know that i've seen so many artists

get out of contracts and that whole creative reduces like it just everything changes your perspective of how you look at shit becomes less of a burden. Like now I could just do music. I can just create shit. Yeah, yeah. I'm happy for Sean, happy for Hit Boy. Really good project. Sean, every time I hear Sean rap, I'm, you know, it just, it's just like, damn.

Like, he's still able to do this at a very high level. And then with Hit Boy, it's just the music speaks for itself. We was in Hit Boy studio watching that video before it came out. And I didn't want to say it because I didn't want to sound corny. But in my head, I did want to kind of tap hit boy. Like, how did y'all find her? Oh, the young lady in one of the talent. Like, I've taken her bowling.

Why are y'all in the bowling alley with her? Did she suggest this? Yeah, probably. Did she come over this tree? Yeah. Like, why she just go bowling? Why she would tell her eating nachos and. I mean, you know, she was trying to relive a certain day in her life and she had a great time.

That's all, man. I mean, you know, what are you going to do? I even, I even text her while I was watching the. video. I was like, oh, oh, I didn't realize you did the... Bowling. And it wasn't out yet, so she was like, oh, how'd you know? Bowling with Dirk. I'm like, all right.

Yeah. You was mad. Sometimes you guys be like, all right. Just leave it at that and then don't respond? I'm with you. I like that. That's my bag. Get out of my bag.

No, that's hurt. Anytime you go, all right. You're fucking hurt. For sure. But it's a different type of hurt, though. And I kind of wanted to ask, like, what Dirk's score was. Oh, no, no. You can't.

You can never ask. With Hadoo bowed at the bowling alley. You can't ask that. What was his follow through? Yeah, you can't ask that. Don't know if I asked him what his score was. When was the last time you made out with a girl that had lip fillers? Oh, it's been years.

Am I missing the lip filler thing? I know women do it for them. They don't know for me and who the fuck am I. Who cares? But like, I just, I'm sorry. Yeah. I don't get it. It's a little awkward.

Does it feel good on their end when they're making out? I don't know. But to me, I didn't enjoy it. It was kind of weird. It felt like. I feel like I'm biting the rubber tire at the playground. Yeah. Oh my God.

Yeah. No, it wasn't, it wasn't a good experience. I didn't enjoy it. I didn't understand why she had them because she didn't need them. Like, she had nice lips. Oh, you're talking about someone specific? Yeah, she had really, like, nice full lips. What's their government name?

I would never do that. How are you trying to just throw that in there like a detective? I want to know who she is. No. Yeah, that was weird. I didn't, I didn't even know that she had lip fillers until we were kissing. And I was like, yo, what is that? What's wrong with your lip?

I got fillers. I was like, well, why does it feel like that? Like, it felt like, because it's fake. Yeah, I just, it was just, I didn't, I didn't enjoy it. And I didn't understand why she got them because she had really full lips, like naturally. So it was kind of like, I don't know. Well, she felt insecure around you and she wanted to be a better woman. No, I don't think it was.

She saw you throwing money bags under all the girls that had lip fillets. You know, that's a real. She was like, oh, well, I guess this is what more likes. I might have to retire to be. money bags because I see some reason he gets money bags and now he's going to retire the money because you're giving out real ones no no hell no because you're giving out real ones listen here's the thing people assume that because I put money bags under pictures that's like my way of trying to holler at somebody it is no I literally put money bags under anything that I like okay so it's kind

of like almost like liking the picture but that's just my way of like letting it be known that I was here like it's like tagging up a little bit it's like my little tag. This is bullshit, but I'm not trying to, listen, man, I'm not trying to inspire. I'm not one of those serial DMers. I'm not one of those guys. Why not? Because I, I said a years ago, I'm scared of the screenshot game.

It's nasty out here. Okay, you get screenshotsed, then what? Fam, you get screenshoted trying to talk to a woman and she put you out there like, yo, he and my DMs. She looks corny to me. To me too, Rory, but not to the masses. to the masses, you look thirsty. What's worse?

Looking thirsty or looking corny? I don't care about either. Huh? But what's corny? So what's corny if I find someone attractive? And first of all, let's not act like DMing somebody is like really stepping out there and you really flirting. It's a very lazy form of talking. But people take that very.

If I send you a DM, that does not mean I'm dead serious. I could be bored. I'm trying to have service between 34th and 23rd and just happen to want to send a DM. I agree. But I'm just trying to tell you. how it's translated to some people. But I don't care. You're thirsty.

You're corny. You're trying to holl at me. I wish somebody a happy birth. True story. I wish this girl a happy birthday. It wasn't even a real DM because I was responding to her story. That's not even a DM to me. That's not a real DM.

That's not a DM. Lois came from that though. True. I wished her a happy birthday. She was posting birthday stuff. Happy birthday. Lo and behold, she told this other girl that I know that I be in her DMs. That was the first and only time I've ever messaged that.

girl. And that turned it to, oh yeah, he'd be in my DMs. What? You tried to talk to her. This is what I'm trying to tell you. So it's like, you look at it like, you know, no, I'm just responding to your story, but to some people, that's you trying to flirt. That's you trying to holl it. Okay, but to some people throwing mad money bags under a photo of a half naked chick is he tried. I've thrown money bags under fully clothed women as well. But that's your way of trying to clean it up. Like, you're trying to balance out the world. I know what the money bags really are for. You're projecting on me, Roy, and I'm a projected way. I'm letting you know it hurts. right now this is a safe place we have fake stairs yeah but you can leave you go you can walk us in

steps hey wait where does this lead to we gotta get into this like yo what's what's behind that door like how where do these steps lead to but um yeah so you got to be careful me i don't play the damn He leaving money bags under pictures is not me flirting because women have told me that their boyfriends really don't like it. One of the boys, Tiana, I, damn, should I even talk about, Tiana knows I love it. That's my, that's my sister. Shout out to Yana. She, and I caught it, but I didn't catch what he said.

Iman had messaged, he had responded to the money bags that I had put under one of Tiana's post. And I saw it, like it popped up on my notifications. no somebody responded to it like oh iman ain't feeling that and that's how i saw it that's right so when i went to click on it it was already gone like he had deleted it so i didn't see what he said so i see tiana in la and we talk we we bring that up we laughed you could have called me like if mom ran down you i was only at the man john you know i got you iman is cool cool dude man i fuck with iman um but she told me that is that why the tiana the Halloween party got shot up no

Because Ma was throwing money bags And dude pulled up like, nah, I'm not having this That's hilarious But no, don't put that on Imam And thankfully no one was hurt Yes But she told me that her and Iman Had been beefing that day

They had argued about whatever And I didn't even remember what she posted But it was a video of her twerking Okay So when she said that She was like, so all he saw Because I was like, yo Iman got a no wee fan Like he know I'm not kind of like come on

more. And she was like, yo, it didn't even matter who it was. He just saw me twerking and then somebody respond. With a blue check. Right. So she was like he was just on a thousand because he was mad and she said she had posted the twerk video because she knew that he wasn't going like that. You know how couples do they. Okay, cool. All right. We beefing. If anybody knows, I know. Right. So it's, I'm only mad because I didn't see what he said. Because somebody responded to what he said and I clicked on that, but he had already deleted it. But it's just funny because it's like people really think that that money bag shit is like a flirt and it's like first of all tiana's family i'm not flirting with tiana i know we get it

harlem sticks together i understand right but it's not flirting it's just like i'm here it's just like a tag but you don't get to decide that if i'm flirting if that's your decision wait wait wait wait wait so i can't decide when i'm flirting on that i don't have that power anymore no that's crazy the moment yo you can make a girl laugh around her man in the most respectful manner ever and he could consider that flirting you don't you don't get you don't get you don't get to choose that. You're not her man. He can consider that flirting, but if I'm telling you, like, fam, I'm not flirting with you. You know how many times I've lied to Shorty's boyfriend? No, that's just my, come on. That's just my friend. You're a piece of shit. Like, we know

that you're just a flirtation. No, I hold it down for my friends. And Shorty said, hold that shit down. And I say, yo, no, that's my homie. We'd never, come on. We would never. No. Matter of fact, we talk about you mostly. And I defend you. You can never tell a guy that. I've told a guy that. I know a lot about you. I hear great things about you. First of all, a man should never tell another, I hear great things about you all the time. No, I've definitely told me. I've definitely told dude, this was the truth. I was joking before. I have told a dude that got mad at me about my relationship

with this girl. And I was almost offended. I'm like, do you have no, I am your fucking number one asset. She comes to me with all this bullshit that she thinks you did wrong and I put in a perspective of you, I should be my fucking, you should buy me a drink. I've kept y'all relationship alive. Were you and this young lady like romantic involved? Why is that important? I'm talking about one point here.

Why is that important? That makes the whole story connect. Because if you were, then it's like you're a different level piece of shit than I thought you were, number one. I did not sleep with a woman while she was with a dude. But her and I had a very good relationship. And we remain friends.

I'm not aware if he was aware that we had slept. That's not my business to tell. That would be her business to tell. Absolutely. And I will hold it down there. How fast? I am a dirtbag, but I am morally. My favorite Tony Soprano quote is,

I don't have morals, but I do have rules. Do have rules. That works in the movies, not in real life. No, not a little. How fast do you fall asleep next to someone that you, this your first time sleeping next to her? Can I get a scenario? Am I in my own home?

No, you're not in your own home. You're in a hotel. Pretty quickly, just because hotel blinds are my favorite blinds. They black shit out. I'm kind of comfortable with strangers because there's nothing to rob of me. Like, I'll go to sleep peacefully. Like if you really want to steal my Amay shirt, you can have it. Like, there's really, there's nothing that she's really going to grab.

Like, if she calls somebody and like they get a line on me, I don't know what you're going to get out of it. If you get a sat, if you're satisfied by knocking me out, I've been knocked out before. I've definitely fallen asleep pretty quick next to a woman in a hotel that I didn't really, I mean, we knew each other, but we didn't know each other like that. And I remember hearing the door slam, you know, the hotel door slam. Yeah. And I remember hearing the door slam. And immediately I thought it was, this bitch got me. And I jumped up, started looking for my jewelry.

You didn't take anything, no. It was like, why am I so proud? I was sleep comfortably next to this woman. And I think, I feel like she would steal. Like, what's wrong with me? But sometimes chicks that still have like really good pussy. They kind of go hand in hand. Oh, no, thieves?

Oh, they have the greatest sex. No, you can feel it. They steal your heart. They tighten up. Yeah. That's the greatest. I've had some amazing sex with some amazing kleptos. I'm talking about women that were real boosters.

Like they run into like sacks and like we'll get you all the outfit. No, that's, greatest sex in the world. That should be a partner, not a sex partner. No, that, no, these are like real friends. No, no, we still have like, we're still cool to the day. We still want a sacks to the day. Yeah, yeah.

I'm like, yo, these 36, you already know what we're doing with that. Fold that, put that right in the back. So I figured out, um, the new way to like get a chick out to your crib or your hotel room. without being rude. Oh, God. Are you going to give us like a new jewel? It's a new jewel.

Let me hear it. I'm going to give this one out for free. Okay. Turn the AC on 65. They out of there? Out of there. Right away. That's a real thing.

She'll try to thug it out for like a hour. And if you're strategic, because I'm a restless sleeper. If you're strategic, I hold on to them covers. So when I roll it to the left, that comfort is coming with me.

Okay. I'm a burrito. Yeah. I'm a burrito. Yeah. You are now, you're the naked burrito. You're the bowl.

It should get up and leave. It's Tom. Unless you get with a polar bear, because some women like it cold. Those women I don't want to be around. Yeah, I like, I like a woman that likes it around 71, 72. I only like women that like showers that are like fucking frying chicken. I don't like the crock pot chicks. I don't like the slow cook.

Who bay is in a cold shower? Apparently women that like the AC on, on 65. I can't see. The shower has to be hot. Like, I actually switched rooms in the hotel we was at because the water pressure wasn't, and the shot wasn't hard enough. It was like somebody was pouring water out of the window. Is that what it was? That's exactly what it was.

Mall and I shared, not balconies. We didn't share room. Roy, see, this is our narrative start like, oh, these day sharing rooms? We're budgeting. No, we got to cut another corner. We're not budgeting that. So how our rooms were set up, they were at the corner of the hotel, and our balconies were. It was weird.

Our rooms were on the opposite side of the hotel. But our balconies were facing each other. I could see in Rory's living room. You can see in my room. And there was, you know, some choice conversation. And, you know. On the balcony? No, some choice conversation prior to what the plans were for the weekend.

And, you know, maybe some of the guests that may come through as friends. So I just kept, you know, the purve that I am and just want to know what Maw does in L.A. Because we don't hang out. You kept peeking. I kept being a little peeping time over on the shit. Like I kept going out on the balcony like, you know, pretending to stretch. Like, oh, man, love balconies. Tom would have been over there peeking it.

It would have been a whole new dude. I think I got a pack of cigarettes. I don't even smoke just to be on the balcony, see what Maul was doing. And then I did that for like two days. And then Maul just says to me on like the last day, like, oh, no, I moved rooms. I was like, oh, no wonder there was no activity going on. Yeah, like, I literally switched rooms because the water pressure in the shower was terrible. And I cannot.

There's nothing worse than. taking a shower in a shower with a water. It literally feels like somebody's pouring water on you from like the balcony. I can't, I can't take a shower in that shit. My OCD won't allow it. I'm sorry. So I had to switch rooms. So we weren't balcony buddies anymore.

But that was pretty interesting. Like when I went on the balcony and saw that was your room, I laughed for myself. I didn't tell you. I was like, that's not Rory's room right. Like literally from here to like that door. I only found out when we got a haircut and then I immediately went back to my room and closed every block. You know how funny that would have been?

Because I looked out your one. I was like, wait, is that my shit? Like, I'm looking at my suitcase. You know, seeing you walk around in your room not knowing that I could see you would have been like that would have been the highlight of my trip. Like, Rory has no idea. I've seen his naked ass every night just walking around. It's pretty bright. Yeah, no, but I switch from it because of the water pressure, man.

It wasn't because you were looking into my room. And it's nothing. If you looked in my room, there's nothing going on. I'm very boring. Did, I don't want to put too much of your business out there because I know it didn't happen. And I know you weren't really interested. Did the drunk girl birthday possible group situation

Where did that leave off? The drunk girl's birthday, what? I left the next morning. You stayed in L.A., so we never got to regroup. We were regrouping in real time. We were at the Emotional Orange's Show. You were giving me a bit of intel. Oh, no, that never.

That didn't happen, 87 that... I didn't want your first time to be with drunk girls. No, no, no. That wasn't happening. That was a... I wanted to be special for you. This first time, what? Well, it was a

There were a group of A group of women in L.A. that were trying to hang out with me. And I was talking to Rory. I'm like, yo, they want to just come back out of the room, say hi. You know. It's like three, four girls. Celebrate, do a birthday toast. Yeah.

Paul's really good with speeches. Yeah. He did it for the Kardashians. You know what I mean? So they just wanted to come by and hang out. So Rory was like, you know, your first threesome tonight? I'm like, I didn't think about that, but I'm not saying it can't happen. You're naive-assed and read between the life.

lines and those text messages. But because I'm never, I'm never assuming that that's what it is. I don't ever assume. So it was like, you know, but it didn't happen. I'm glad it didn't because drunk women at four in the morning can go really bad. So it was just like, no, they went home and they just went to sleep. I'm glad. Because I do want your first time to be with two people that care about you.

Yeah. I think, I think, I think, I think that's what it should be. I think it should be with two women that really like care about me. We may have at that point out, did I know if. that was your room or not. We may have been peeking through the... That night? Yeah.

Just in case. No, you knew that wasn't in my room at that time. Okay. Yeah, that was your last night. You knew before that. Maybe I was peeking in the other rooms. Yeah. Because you didn't tell me which room you went into.

You were going to peek in the wrong person room and they was going to throw something at you. I may have just been knocking on doors saying, housekeeping. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Just to see if you were answered. Yeah, but no. Oh, damn, didn't realize you had the crew here. No. No, I would have hit your phone.

If I had the crew there, I would hit your phone. Like, yo, fam, come to my room. but I would not have went by the way. If I had like four girls in my room? I would be. What if they wanted us to pot for them? Yeah. No, I understand.

Yeah. Come on, Roe. No, no. Yeah. We got to have, we got to pop up to. Yeah. You understand what I'm saying? So we got to make, we got to do what we got to do, man.

And I mean, come on. It was her birthday. Who would I, we have to celebrate the day you were born. Exactly. Like life is a gift. Exactly. And we shouldn't take it for granted. The gift that keeps on giving potters is a gift too.

Yeah. It's weird because I think they were trying to give. Um. with that said Jay Z's in the you can't go from with that being said Jay is in the

Rock and Roll Hall of Fame that's disgusting that has nothing to do with Jay Zee yes it does there's a lot of people in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame there was a lot of people

potentially going to be in my room I get with you yeah okay yeah yeah and you were going to give a speech absolutely and you would have been inducted into a certain

group a different hall yeah absolutely but yeah Jay is in Rock and Roll Hall of Fame Congrats to you.

Okay, I'll take it. Congrats to Jay and, you know, the whole team. That's an amazing, you know, I don't like to put too much on the rock and roll Hall of Fame, but, you know, it's still an amazing accomplishment for somebody from our culture, from the projects in Brooklyn, like just looking at his whole journey through life to end up in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. It's an amazing, amazing accomplishment. He's always been in our Hall of Fame, obviously, you know, what Jay means to us. But it's just dope to see him honored and being accepted in that, in that hole with all those other great legendary artists. Yeah, man, congrats, man. I was really, I was really happy that he thanked Dame.

I love that point. But that's Jay, man. He's not a... It didn't shock me. Yeah, it didn't shock me. But I was happy that he did to give Dame that recognition on that platform was super dope. of him. Yeah, I love that entire part of just explaining this, this is what hip hop is. Right. We went to all the majors. They said, no, we said, I would do it ourselves. Yep.

That's hip hop. Yeah, so congrats, man. That's, I mean, you know, now he got it for a while, though he's been in cruise control, but now it's really like just a victory lap for him, but for whatever he wants to do with his career healing out. I just want to know what the invite look like and what the dress code said. To the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. Ove was in a black suit. Chappelle was dressed like Kirk Holbein. L.L. Cool J. I was dressed like an 80s pop star. But I like that.

I couldn't figure out who, what was the dress coat here? But I like that because if it's the rock and roll Hall of Fame. Yeah, got to be different. There's no rules. It's like, we're going to do what the fuck we want to do here. And I did like when Hove compared hip hop to punk rock. Because if you know the history of just that time.

Yep. Even down with, I hate that I'm the one that's bringing these names up, but Becty Boys and Rick Rubin and that Lower East Side shit kind of merging with Russell and what was happening. Absolutely. It was definitely punk rock. Yeah, so that was dope, man, to see that, you know, Jay being recognized on that platform. And just another accomplishment under his belt.

Let's stay in your neck of the woods, as Al Roker would say. As a uptown native and a former removed member of the boulevard, where do you stand with this Alpo shit? Because it is a relevant thing right now. It is a very New York conversation. Yeah. That's been going on whether you're civilian or not. It's been a combo. It's unfortunate, man.

Again, I understand, you know, prayers, condolences to the families. But again, you know, it's, you know, I lost my older brother to, you know, ironically, you know, seeing the photos of the car and all of that. You know, my brother was killed in his car. So, you know, it brought back a lot of those emotions. and just seeing that. And, you know, I was reading a lot of things online. And, you know, that's the thing about the internet. People have a platform and they say things and get their opinions off on different topics. And I saw a lot of people, you know, saying things where it was kind of like, you know, on one hand, I understand. I get it. If you know, the history and, you know, the stories of, you know, Al Po and things that, you know, happened around his life and his, in his, you know, time and in the streets that, you know, A lot of lives were lost and, you know, allegedly or not allegedly he was involved or he wasn't, whatever. That's not for them. Yeah, that's not, you know, that's not for me to really get into all of that.

But just the fact that some people was happy about him, you know, potentially being killed, it was just a weird thing, man, because it's like, why, why? And I get it, right? Because families have grieved and, you know, families have gone through a lot throughout the years as a result of things that our point. may or may not have been involved with. But it's just weird, man, to see people celebrating shit like this and, you know, some of the things that people were saying. And it's just, I don't know where we at as a culture, man, and as a community where we celebrate these types of things.

And, you know, again, I'm speaking from, I can speak on this because I've lost a brother to street violence and things like that. So, you know, I get it. I get how on one hand, you know, people may feel like, oh, well, you know, he had something to do with my family. my relative grieving and, you know, things like that. But it's so, are we just on this cycle? Is it like a never-ending thing now where it just, you know what I mean?

It's just like, where are we going? You know what I mean? And again, it's just weird, man, seeing people celebrate somebody being killed. That, to me, it's just like, it's just a weird, weird thing that I can't, you know, shake and I can't really, you know, wrap my head around. Like, on one hand, again, I understand because, you know, you've grieved from. a family member being lost and it may have been feelings that you had toward this man for years for his involvement and your family member being lost.

Which we both have a mutual. Right. Is it and she didn't celebrate anything else. She didn't do that. We both have a mutual friend that was a victim of this. Absolutely. So I understand. I get that part of you being hurt and you grieving.

But, you know, it's just a weird, weird thing, man. And I feel like it's only in our community. I feel like this only happens in our culture. in our community where these things happen and you see people celebrating it you know what I mean it's just like like what are we doing like when does it stop when does this cycle and when do we find a better way

of dealing with these issues and these situations and you know where we're no longer dealing with this type of shit where we no longer wake up to this type of news and these type of circumstances like I just it's just a very very weird thing like I said I didn't you know when I when I saw the news come up like people had called me and text me and I was like for real like is it is it did it really happen is it true that was my first

response because it was just speculation at the time yeah and then as news started to come out you know excuse me certain people hitting me and they're like yo nah it's true whatever whatever and my you know my immediate honest feeling was damn like this is literally an error you know growing up in New York City in the 80s in the 90s like this is an era that kind of like is now, you know, even though we've been moved beyond that, it's almost like it was still around. Of course. Because, you know, Alpo was still around and he was still visible in Harlem.

And it's almost like we lost that. That's over with that, that chapter is, you know, for lack of better word, closed. But now what? But where do we go from here? What happens now? Do we learn from that? Because it was a tragic situation all the way around the board. It's tragedy.

So why are we celebrating tragedy? They were also 20, 21. at the time when all this happened. That's what... Tragedy. Crazy. They were young. They were kids.

They were legitimately kids. So it's a tragic thing, man. And it's like, I feel like we're celebrating tragedy. It's a tragic story. It's a tragic end to a story. You know, and regardless of, you know, personal, I get it. Like I said, I lost a brother to street violence and I know the feeling. I still grieved to this day.

Like, my brother's killer was never caught. So I still walk around with that. But... And even attached to the movie that kind of... to put he's in the movie exactly you know what I'm saying so it's it's you know it's a lot of things that just it's a lot of emotions a lot of you know personal attachments to it around Harlem and in the community and you know again I just I just think that we need to find a better way to you know deal with these situations and avoid these situations because again it's just a tragic end to a

tragic story to that happened when these guys were kids you know what I mean like it was they were kids so it's just it's just unfortunate man I feel you and again, condolences to your family, rest and peace to Bob. I guess I'm outside looking in, and I completely agree with everything that you're saying. To the people that are celebrating, I'm not talking about like the internet weirdos, but the people that, you know, maybe attached to it and celebrate. How do you feel about people celebrating the idea of what that represents, not the violence? Because I think, which I saw, again, outside looking in,

I'm really a I sit in the house I'm civilian I got nothing to do with none of this shit From what I've understood with people I've talked to Him going back to Harlem And kind of celebrating it It was just like You're poking a bag yeah like Everything kind of was fine

I get it You're now throwing the You're doing this shit Like if you would have just It almost feels like you want the ending To the movie Like you want it to be completed this way I get it

It's just And people weren't celebrating that a man passed and who obviously had kids and a family. Right. They're celebrating the fact that this is not cool. You cause so much harm to this community and to the people around you that you did it with. Right. And now you're coming back to kind of throw it in our faces.

And it's kind of offensive. I get it. I totally, like I said, I totally understand. I understand, you know, all of the different feelings and emotions involved in it. I'm also thinking like how do we avoid such a tragic story and the tragic ending from happening and occurring again. Yeah. That's my thing.

Like I understand. Like I get it. If, you know, I woke up tomorrow and they told me the guy that killed my brother was killed, would I be celebrating? I don't know. I'm going to be honest with you. I don't, I can't answer that. You know what I mean?

Because I don't know. But it's just like how do we avoid such tragic things from happening in the community? Yeah. You know what I mean? and then people being online celebrating it. It's just, it just, it just, it just doesn't feel right. That doesn't feel like that's what we should be doing. I get sure.

It's celebrating a death to somebody. To me, it just doesn't feel right. And usually when something doesn't feel right to me, it's not right. You know what I mean? So it's just like, I just got a weird feeling just reading a lot of comments online about it. And I get it. I understand why people feel the way they feel and why things were being said. I totally 100% understand.

But it just doesn't feel right. It's something about it that just doesn't feel right. Yeah. I feel that. Yeah, but yeah, I was just curious your perspective of it because it's, it's yeah, but, you know, I had 24 hours of a very weird debate. And let's be, let's be, you know, we still, you know, we still, the name still hasn't been released. We still don't know 100%. Well, from what they confirmed, I believe the person that was pronounced dead was his alias from witness protection. Okay. And that was then, okay, left over to, because they have to. I didn't see. I didn't read all of that. Yeah. So his, his license and everything that he had.

And his credentials were the name. Well, again, you know, prayers to his family. Because regardless of how you feel, he has a family, he has kids, grandkids, you know, relatives that love him. And so, you know, prayers and condolences to that family. And to everyone affected from the entire situation. That's what I'm saying. It's a tragic situation all the way around the board. There's no escaping it.

It's just a tragic story. So prayers to everybody involved, prayers to anybody, you know, that was affected by this. in whatever capacity. It's just a tragic story. Another tragic story in our community in Harlem. But, you know, again, we just got to, we got to find a better way, man. We got to find a better way. I feel that.

Well, again, condolences, but we can get this TV, something a little bit more lighthearted of what you've been watching. Because I still want to get into this squid game shit. Let's get into it then. I mean, I feel like everyone's seen Squid Game at this point, right? We can do spoilers. If you haven't, you just don't want to see it. What you thought about that ending? I thought that it was,

well, I'm glad to know that there will be a part two because I feel like, you know, there was such an epic series that you can't just have one season of that. I don't know where season two will go if it will be the same type of things, you know, as season one. But it kind of feels like, all right, is this dude going to try to be like the Batman to the situation and bring down this whole empire and stop it from happening?

did the old dude really die in the bed Again, back to the impulsive gambling shit I did like him turning around He kept saying it's all about his daughter About his daughter And then you get it to people that are really impulsive And have gambling shit

And they live and die off that They don't live and die off their feelings from their family So eventually when he had the opportunity To leave it alone He's like nope, let me go And that's gamblers They could leave the table And leave with their money

But no, I got to go bed it again I got to see if I can get more. You got to run it back. That was a great representation of that. That fucking ending of him going into the empty office building with the hospital corner. And that old man saying all that fake deep shit, that was such fucking social media fake deep shit to me. All that old guy said was, yo, I had money and I was bored and I thought it was hysterical that we were murdering people. Yeah. Pretty much. That's society. That's capitalism. Like what was, there was no deep shit outside of what that guy was saying. He was saying he tried to make it ill and was really just saying,

nah, just that bread. And I was bored. He was like, yo, life is to be lived and you got to get all the fulfillment out of your life. No, I like to murder people and I thought it was hilarious. I think you're trying to say nobody really cares about people. He did. And we don't care about each other. Yeah. You were trying to tie all of that, you know, all of those things in there. Listen, I think that it was a really great show. I was a phenomenal show. Just the ending I just thought was hilarious. The ending was a little like, Okay, but I am glad to know that there will be a part two. I'm not saying what he said was not true.

We just have to look at the seven episodes before. Because that's really what he was talking. Yeah. Yeah, no, I just figured I'd murder a bunch of people. It would be fucking hysterical. It was great, man. It was, it was weird. It was, you know, odd at first, but you can't turn it off.

Like, you literally get cooked because you're like, all right, I have to see where this goes. Oh, no, I watched it straight through. It's a, it was a great show, a great, great. great show um yeah and i'm just glad to know that part two is happening not as happy as i'm about emily and paris too coming oh that's that's like your sex in the city right oh my god i can't wait she's she's going to san trope i know she's going she's going she's going to take that trip with him i know nothing about the show you've never seen emily and paris no de maris don't do that because you keep mentioning this show i'll listen it's it's it's it's the great it's like great corny

TV. What girl put you on of this? You watch this by yourself? She got to be bad. No, no. It was just come on. I feel better if you admit that you watch it. Lie to me then. And say you watch it with a girl. It makes me feel better. Listen, bro, I promise you, man. I stumbled upon that show on my own.

Look at your algorithms. Your algorithms are sick. Listen, man, I'm glad I did, though. I think it was a great show. It's corny, but it's like it's fun corny shit. And I can't not, I have to see season two. You have to. You have to. Do you love the Lizzie McGuire movie? I don't think I saw the Lizzie McGuire movie.

I don't think I saw that one. Did I watch it? Of course I did. That's why I'm not watching Emily and Paris because it's probably going to be the same shit. No, Emily and Paris is fine, man. You got to watch it. Just watch it, man. Just watch it so you can really, you could really tell me if you hate it or not.

I've seen Will and Grace already. This is not Will and Grace. Emily and Paris is fine, man. No, I've seen Frasier. I don't need to. This is not Frasier. This is totally different. I'm watching, what's the name of this show?

Have you seen you? I didn't start it yet I didn't start the was it third season second season third yeah I didn't start it yet I haven't even started the second season I love the first one

and then he went to L.A. and I don't want to see him kill people in L.A. Yeah I only like to see people murdered in New York in L.A. Yeah that's kind of weird I said when we did

Alexis's podcast and she said yeah that hotel right there the Cecil yeah that's what they carried the girl out of the water tank and I can see it right from my balcony

literally seeing it from that fucking angle Sorry, I'm joking. Was nuts. For the people that have seen that Hotel Cecil shit. Dog, she's staring right at the fucking water tank. Yeah. Like every angle from every episode, you're staring at that.

I'm like, I would... Listen, I live next to a graveyard now and it doesn't bother me. That bothered me that we were that close to that shit. It was odd. Curb is back. Curb is back. How did you feel about it? I know you're a huge curve fan.

I'm a huge curve fan. I moved the same day that the episode came and I had to put my Verizon back on. And it took a second, so I couldn't watch it in real time. Damn. So I'm going to watch it tonight. And obviously, episode two, succession, I need to catch up with season three. Succession, I just, listen, I just started the first season. Show is fucking phenomenal.

I think it's a great show. My homie said he feels like it's better than billions. I don't know if I'm on board with that yet. I'm on board with it. Are you? I mean, I'm deep into the show, though. Okay. I think it's better than billion.

Okay. I mean, I like it so far. It's a lot of good actors in it, though. It's probably my favorite show right now Yeah, I like it I like it a lot BMF BMF is great so far

BMF is starting to really turn into one of my favorite shows Listen I Is it better than Snowfall? No No Is it better than the wire? No

Not Snowfall is better than the wire but no Yeah but BMF is it better than Goodfellas Like where do we draw the line Where do we draw the line with this guy Well, the snowfall is better than the wire, man. Come on, man. Cut it out. But I, uh... Just because you say it that way, Bill O'Reilly, doesn't mean that it's true. Listen, man, that season at the docks... Just because you say it with a tone, don't mean it true. The wire stands, y'all don't want to admit that that dock season was terrible. That was, that season was trash when they were at the docks.

The snowfall doesn't have a trash season yet. Yo, you're the guy that the artist puts out one album and then puts it up against someone that put out 12 and be like, yo, he's better. I'm just saying so far. The doc seasons set up all the shit. The first three seasons of snowfall. It is three seasons, right? Snowfall? Right?

I think so. I think it's three seasons. The first three seasons of snowfall is better than the first three seasons of the wire. That's all engaged in the goal. I'll get to five. Okay. We'll have that talk. As of right now, the first three comparison.

But yeah, the BMA... I don't think season three is snowfall is better than season three of the wire. Okay. I don't think it's even close. Okay. Or season one. Okay. No, four, that's four?

Okay, so the first four. And it's not better than season four of the war. Yes, it is. Come. We ain't got to do that. But I, BMF, though, I like what, I like where the show was going because it, you know, when we first heard the BMS series was coming out, we kind of loosely, you know, knew what it was going to be about. But I think that even if this was not about BMF or loosely based on, you know, Meach and Terry. this would be a great show.

Yeah. You know what I mean? Like even if this wasn't like a somewhat true story, it would still be one of my new favorite shows on television. But that's why the BMF shit was so crazy. Because it's like, there's no way this is true. Exactly. But it's true.

But it happened. I think with these shows, I'm starting to figure out, Carl, what lens do they use with these? Because I'm starting to realize why we love, like shows. The way it looks. Like when everyone was killing the, when Boosie said he was going to put out a movie about his life. And I don't want to get into none of that little nods. Actually, I think Boosie's super corny for all that shit.

I just want to talk about his movie. When that trailer came out and it was shot with that same type of lens they used for snowfall, they use for BMF. When you use that lens, everyone goes, oh, this is legit. That's all it is. Like when they did the Tupac movie All Eyes on Me that they shitted on, which I actually don't think is that bad of a movie. It wasn't a bad movie. It's really not that bad. Yeah, it wasn't.

They just shot it with the lens that looks like right now. If they would have shot the shit with the lens that looks like the Bousie movie, it's a snowfall. All eyes on me would have been a classic. Yo, it's the lens they shoot shit in, I promise you. That's all it is. Let me tell you why social media is full of shit. Because I remember before I saw the Tupac movie, they was like, I was reading a lot of things along.

They were like, yo, in one scene he was using an iPhone. And I was like, no way. No, they didn't do that. But I'm just trying to tell you what the internet had me believe. Even. Because they was like, oh, it's a Starbucks. It was a Starbucks cup in one of the scenes or something like that they were saying. And I was like, nah, they didn't fumble like that. Well, listen, the TLC movie, which I loved, they had Searok all in the bar in 92. In 92. I think, no, seriously, I think Puff just, that was already a brand. I know, but, dog, they did not have Sorok by the caseload at the bar at the TLC show. Sarac was a brand in 92, I'm sure. But no, it wasn't a part of our culture.

Do it just be the lens. If you just shoot it and I think 50 is figured that out because he did, he's doing, my, my blanking, I love the show. What show? About. Oh, the dude that's locked up?

No, his shit. The power, power book. Oh, yeah. The cane and shit. He's shooting with the same lens. It just, for some reason, it's like when those Instagram filters came out. And we all was like, oh,

1977 is our filter. Like, that's whatever lens that is right now with these types of shows. As long as you use that shit, Yeah. Everyone will think the shit is legit. Yeah. I'm really loving the BMF thing, man.

I like where it's going. I see what 50 is doing and investing in these stories from our culture and putting them on the screen. I really like it. I really, like, shout out the 50, man. He doesn't get the props I think he deserves as far as, like, really breaking down that door for our stories and our culture to be put on the screen. So shout out to 50, man, because that BMF shit is a really, really good series. Yeah, we don't celebrate longevity enough. I know I'm a broken record in that, but 50's longevity, this is crazy.

Yeah, especially being pivoting away from just music and rap. Like, he's 50 is really doing, he's doing, he's doing his thing, man. And the, the actress, I forgot her name. I didn't realize she's the director of BMF. Which one? Her name Tasha, Tasha Smith. She's actually, I love her as an actor. Like, I didn't even realize that that was her director.

Yeah. So that, that made me love BMF even more. Like, oh, she's getting behind. the lens now doing like that it's just it's dope man it's dope to see and the last episode of bmf is it it got crazy yeah like i see where they going at like this story is like all right fan what the fuck is happening right now i mean but if you think about bmf i was young when all that was i was i was 12 13 maybe the fact that y'all got a billboard and i'm watching the show of what because i didn't know what they was really doing y'all got a billboard yeah

Yeah, it was a real thing It was a real thing man That's fucking nuts It was a real time It was a real thing It was a real time man It's just dope to see it like now You know

On the screen and people Everybody being able to watch that story And really learn about You know loosely Learn about what was really going on back then So yeah shout out to 50 Shout out to Tasha Smith Shout out to BMF series on stars

I went for Pete Valley When is P Valley coming back. Zoom. I like that P Valley shit, man. That's my shit. Yeah, I thought that P Valley shit was super dope. I was at the edge of my couch.

Yeah, he was twer. What? Am I crooked letter? S. S. Cricket letter? He got a shit off. IPP crooked letter? He got a shit off. That's a really good show.

I followed her on IG and she didn't follow me back and I kind of felt the way. Okay. Yeah, I follow her too. What's her name? Shannon. I don't know. I followed her because she didn't follow you back. Yeah.

Are you unfollowed her? Maybe. No, you can't do that. that Rory, you can't unfollow. I want to say that I appreciated her art. But you unfollowed? I know, because I gave it some time. Okay.

I even threw a couple of likes out there. Oh, no, yeah. It's money bags everywhere. Oh, all right. But I appreciate her art. I think she's a great actress. No, I think she's fire. Phenomenal.

And I think she's an attractive woman. Absolutely. I agree. And I love that like... I would go to the pink and throw some... Hell yeah. I love that she has put together... What was the rapper's name in P.

The gay do? Low murder. who, little murder has some fire. Like I love that she's kind of like his manager and putting his brand lifestyle together and still taking care of your kid. See,

you see how she started posing with him and his Instagram start, maybe that's what while they need to do. And she, her baby father's a toxic white guy. Who's the perfect next step? You? Me?

Yeah. Because women always go with the same guy even if they're done and they just move on another one. Same guy. Same guy. He just look a little different.

Me and him would get along great. We like the same things. Oh, wait. What did you tolerate? Let me figure this out. that's your new dude great go we're the same I know him like we bent Eskimo brothers matter of fact I look to him to figure out where to go next

oh my god I love women no P Valley is fucking a really really good show I'm excited for that yeah but what do we have with Tom Insecure is back Yes that's another one my HBO because I had to get my Verizon back on you're moving my back yeah insecure is back the last season

I love it man I'm just I don't know I know Issa Ray is going to do something dope coming off for this. But to know that this is the last of Insecure is like, damn, man, because it's really dope to see all of the relationships and the actors, you know, grow and end up where they are now. And it's just like, damn, it's over. This is it. But I'm sure Issa Ray is going to, you know, do some phenomenal things in Hollywood that she's already done with the Insecure series.

So it's going to be dope to see where she goes from here. I had my whole mentions was flooded when Amanda Diva, I'm sorry, Amanda Seals had the A.k.a. Jacking on. She's not a A.k. She's not an A.k. No, and that was, that was the big. Well, she can't be an A.K.A. What am I talking about? Can't she be A.K. Why couldn't she be? Is that, wait, so what's the, what's the, what's the,

A.k.A. is a sorority. Alpha Kappa, Alpha, Sorority, Incorporate. What's the fraternity? Like, what's the... There's, there's, the divine non. It's nine different organizations of fraternities and sororities. You're all. It's like red and white, right? A shot colors? Well, Crimson and Cream. But if you want, I want to say red and white, that's okay. Crimson and Cream.

Yeah, I mean, if you want to go that way, it's, that's, you know, none of my business. So that, so crimson is the, is a cousin of red. Yes, it's a darker, more, maroon, you know, it's in there. And cream is my natural complex. Off white. And I have red hair. Got you. Okay.

Crimson and cream. My body is crimson and cream. Okay. Okay. Whatever. But AKA is, was the. You're a Kappa? I'm a Kappa, yes.

So AKA was the first, um, black sorority founded. Okay. So she had on an AKA jacket in Insecure because in her character isn't AKA in it. She's not one in real life. No. Okay. So everyone was upset if you're not because, you know, people feel the way. You remember when the Boocy shit happened?

Yeah. Everyone was upset like Boocy. You can't wear them letters. Which was drastically different because he wasn't playing a character. He was courtside at a basketball game. Yeah, he's real life. Got it. Yeah.

I guess, I don't know. Greeks might hate me for this. She's playing a character that's an A.K.A. I guess it's not my organization but I can say if someone was playing a Kappa as an actor I would have no issue with it And this is not the first time this happened

Now if you were playing a really shitty Kappa and making us look nuts Then I might feel the way Okay She was not doing that But I think the other issue is Did you get permission from the organization Oh it's like that deep? Of course

Okay It's incorporated You have to get that shit cleared So I don't know if Insecure that wouldn't be an Amanda Seals thing. That would be an HBO thing. If they got it clear, they not.

But it was a big deal. Okay. You know, as Greeks are sensitive and we think we gang gang. Very, very sensitive. The gyros are amazing, is what I will say. Different type of. I know. No.

No. No, it's just different. Gyro King on Ford Road is still open. Survived the pandemic and everything. All of the Greek organizations weren't founded in Astoria. I know. I'm fucking with you. We got to, should we announce what our next episode is or just leave it?

No, we're just still. see it when it's time for it to drop. Just know that, you know, this is the start of a new journey, something really dope that we're looking forward to. Here at Moore's Saw Series X-M Stitcher. There are tickets still available for our L.A. show. Maybe not by the time you hear this, but... When is it, November 14th? November 14th at the Regent, right?

Okay. The Regent. New York City is sold out. Mall is going to ask Jay-Z to be our guest. I'll ask. He's not coming. He's not coming. He's going to be asked.

I'll ask and he'll hang up. But we will have merch available at both shows only exclusively for people that are at the shows. And then we will be launching our merch on our website. Which I don't even know if we have. I don't know. We're going to figure it out. That DeMaris is building right now. Listen, man, we try to push shit together.

No, no, we got, listen, man, we got some really cool shit coming, man. I do. I'm excited. I'm excited. This merch. This merch caps, whatever we got coming. I think they're going to love it. I know we was dark in October, but it was for a reason.

We did a bunch of shit. We didn't take any vacation time. It was actually more busy than I think it would be. Yeah. You can text us. I'm now in my crib and I'm never going to leave. So, Texas 917, 810, 22995. And I'll sit there and just reply because, I mean, I don't really got shit I was going on.

It's all right. I told Demers to bring the hose to the house. Here we go. Bring them. I got some singles. You have the hose. I don't have. The singles and the hose.

You know, that's like a misconception about mall that I really want. to like bury. I don't have, if, to all my friends do not ask me to bring them because I think

guys think that with a new deal comes hose, which may be true. But not in the podcast. I got a few DMs I wouldn't have gotten before when that announcement

came out. Hey look, I DM this girl that I, I, except for my cricket letter. I DM this girl that I DM, I'd name her a few times we've had like a little back and four.

But I had DM'd her about something. And this was like the day after the deal was announced she replied she said oh you just making your rounds huh like wait I respected but I that's funny but I respect I've been plenty of times before that so I was like don't do that she's funny I like funny yeah no she's no she's hilarious but I was just like why are you don't make it seem like that I'm that guy because I'm not that guy the DMs that I typically wouldn't have gotten

since the announcement there's been one factor all of them girls have kids I'm not saying what I'm not applying anything no no no I'm not doing anything. I just kind of connected the dots of all the DMs that I typically wouldn't get. I went to pages and I'm like, oh, all y'all got kids. Claim them. Not mad at it. You know what I'm saying?

Listen, now's the time. Oh, when Demaris asked for more money, in my head, I was like, I'm claiming you on my taxes. We're not about that. Oh, man. I love it. I love it. They all hit us over there. Eddn's say, yo, give me 15 bands a month.

Yeah, Edding got a fresh cut. today, how much that cost, man? I'm watching you. Yeah, man. We got some more jobs than all of us asking for more money. That's hilarious. But yeah, we got some dope shit coming, man. Some more content on the way.

Live shows November 11th, New York City, November 14th, L.A. Look for us on Alexis Texas' podcast. I'm excited. That was a really good conversation. Alexis. You never, you have this misconception about people, misperception about people. because she's a porn star. But she just, her personality, like, I think she's, she's a star.

Oh, she's being a porn star. She's a star. I think her personality, her podcast is super dope. So we sat down with her in L.A., kicked it with her. She'll be putting that episode out. So I think that was pretty dope. That was one of my favorite conversations. So, yeah, man.

I just hope because she was so cool and it was such a good conversation, and she's just like that. really cool friend chick in my head. I hope none of my porn algorithms have her come up. Because I'd feel weird. Yeah. I'd feel really odd. That's how cool that conversation was.

Yeah, I don't even think I could watch. Oh, God, get this away. I can't even watch her porn scenes anymore because it's kind of like. I never did. Yeah, Alexis, she's a fucking, she was like the first, like, from what I remember in my era of, a journey of masturbating. Of course.

She was the first, like, white girl. horn star that was like really curvy Yeah A big butt She was the first one From what I remember Like that's when I got introduced to porn Scott personality man

No she's super dope Super super cool That conversation was real fun So she'll be putting that out soon And yeah we got more people We gotta sit down and kick it with Fly out and shoot some content with Yeah I'm excited

I'm very excited And we'll just have some random rotating Guess just people we fuck with People coming by fucking with us for sure So, all right, man, I'm good. See you all on Friday. Cool. And YouTube will be available on Wednesdays and Saturdays.

Other than that, Demand is there anything else we need to cover? That's it. Got it cover, Dee, because I don't want you hitting the text. It's talking about y'all forgot this. All right, cool. We got everything done. All right. Well, that's the red-headed beard fellow.

I have a name Roy is the hair in your head red Yes Well it depends this season In the summertime it gets a little blonde It gets darker in the winter I'm weird man I don't know

I'm really like a genetic mistake This is your time to shine Fall is your time Oh for sure You throw the beanie on it with just the red beard Oh no I'm very much earth tones Yeah you went right in I'm literally

Go next to a tree in the fall It's me And there you are Yeah I'm wearing green and my hair is red And I'm dying All right, man, we'll catch y'all next episode. Fuck y'all. That was funny to me.

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