New Rory & MAL - Episode 154 | Bey Hive vs. The Barbs

Episode Date: March 28, 2023

Happy Ramadan to all who celebrate! Today we celebrate Baby D’s birthday by making fun of her. While she was away the rest of the team went go-karting with Larry June and Alchemist (YouTube Vlog coming soon) TikTok has taken over social media and now our courthouses. We discuss the ongoing congressional hearing, which sparks an informative discussion. Speaking of viral artists, Beyonce and Adidas are parting ways. Mal shares a difference of opinion on why that deal didn’t work. This leads into comparing the Bey Hive vs. The Barbs, which ultimately turns into a commentary on fan cult culture. Have you watched Swarm? Demaris seems like she has cult-fan tendencies (you decide). Tune in as the guys discuss all of this, as well as 6ix9ine’s internet return and Jonathan Majors recent controversy where Mal goes on an interesting tangent that leaves Rory sitting in silence. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoicesSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Good morning. What's up? Afternoon. Good evening, depending on where you are in the world. Yeah. Welcome to a new episode of the new Rory M. Mall podcast. I am all. I'm Rory.

And we're back. Rory. Feels like we haven't seen you guys in a few days. What about the people that live in like Russia where the sun never goes down? Is that how that works? Is it always good morning? Who told you the sun never goes down in Russia? Well, one of those places.

The sun never goes down. It's actually very dark in Russia. It's like in the Antarctic. I think there's a spot in the North Pole somewhere where the sun technically never sets there was a funny meme going on about what do people that celebrate Ramadan do in this very small part of the

on the globe. I don't think there's many Muslims in that but say there was one. Yeah, you never know. You just get blackout curtains. Stay home. I mean that works. Right? Yeah, change your own life. How are you doing with your fasting? I have a lot of friends that are fasting and

I've seen some temperature checks. Some people are very irritable. Some people are at peace. Nah, I mean, I'm fast. Some people have given up. No, I mean, you know, I've juiced a couple weeks ago. So this is not too difficult for me. This is actually pretty easy and it's necessary, I think.

I think that a lot of people should try fasting from certain things. Maybe not, you know, necessarily eating during certain hours, but like to remove certain things out of your lifestyle and out of your day to day for some time. I have a friend that's fasting for the first time. This is first Ramadan. and on day three he called me and said every girl I've ever met has been texting me with their pussy wide open.

Do they know that I'm converting? Oh, then they probably don't know that. Or is that just a lot of sending temptation? He said, every girl, people haven't hit me in years. Now it's just sending their whole asshole to me. No, the devil is busy. The devil never takes a day off. So that's just the devil.

That's seen. I know that's right. You know what I mean? You got to kind of look around that and, you know, don't even respond to that. Well, I didn't see the pictures, but I assume they weren't really like, devilish. I think they were just beautiful

vaginas. That's the devil. That's the devil's pit. Viginas? Yeah, that's the devil's pit. Any women tempting you? There's some. There's been some temptations out there in my phone. I like that. I welcome that, though. I like to look the devil in his eyes and wink. You know what I mean? Who would you break? When it wink at you? I love when they make

it wink. Who would you break fasting for? Who would I break fasting for? Yeah, what's your name? Which devil? Which devil would I break? I don't want call her a devil. Okay. A woman. A woman. A harlot.

India love. Oh, yeah. Throwing the Quran out the window for his love. Because her last name is love? Yeah, yeah. Come on. The last name is love. You got to, come on.

How could you not? Lead with love, yeah. Exactly. You're picking India love over Allah. Any day to week. Any day to week. Any day. Twice on Sunday.

Twice on Sunday. Yeah. Woo. What if, I mean, by her name, one could assume maybe there is some Ramadan connection there. What if she's also participating and you guys could like Ramabond? Oh, that's even better. That's even better.

I hope she's Muslim. With your fasting, can you fuck after sunset or are you doing the whole time? No, no temptation. No. That's for 40 days? Yeah, for a month. Yep. Cool.

To April 20th, 21st, I think. Nice. To the airy season, you got to avoid all the airy. How do you do it during the area season? I have no idea how I'm doing it during air. They should just move Ramadan. Yeah, that's like I have. When's Libra season?

found out that Ramadan was during Aries season I said, I don't know if I'm going to be able to do this. Yeah, I'm cast like, yeah, that's like the toughest thing. I saw that coming. Yeah. All right to move some things around for the Aries. He is in Aries, I thought. I thought everyone was in Aries. I think he, I think Allah is a big area.

But happy birthday, baby D. Hey, happy birthday to our lovely baby D. Demaris, you are 29. Damn you all. What you mean? That's a blessing. 29 is a great number. You're a twunk. What is it with women in age?

Well, you know, women feel like when they reach a certain age. You know, women's, women's clock and men's clock, like, we don't even look at our clock. No. No, yeah. Women look at their clock. Whenever a woman looks in the mirror, she's looking at her clock. She's looking to see if a gray popped up. Yeah.

She's looking to see if the eye, under the eyes are sagging yet. She's looking, you know, women just are very, very vain and anal and they just, you know, they pay attention to themselves, like to the teeth. Your cross state aren't bad. We just kind of take it day by day. That's literally not why. That's not the clock that we care about. But you could freeze your eggs, though. Do your fucking thing.

Yeah, that's the clockyard. Everybody has the resources to freeze their eggs, Rory. I'm talking to you. There's a freezer right over there. Yeah. Sub zero. Yeah, it's actually.

There's two freezers, actually. There you go. Okay, I'll just put my eggs in there next to Basley's food. There's also the wine cooler one where, like, you're not sure if you want them frozen. Maybe let them throw off for a second. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Or run them on her hot water. Yeah.

Leave them on the counter for the whole day. DeMaris, I started with happy birthday. I just want to let you know that I led with love. I led with appreciation. We appreciate you. We love you. You know, I looked like you had a great time in L.A. Yeah.

He was giving the Graham a lot of that work. Yeah, she was. I've seen the Aries waist. What is it? The waist chain? It was a thong, but. That was a thong? The A.

You know that A was in your ass. That's why some of the letters were missing. That ass ain't up that E, didn't it? I didn't even see the other E. Turn your ass crack green when you went in the shower. Demaris, where that E was sitting at? Where that E was sitting there? It was an E missing in Ares and I ain't know where it was.

I thought it fell all. Now you walked around with that thorn? Of course she did. You had to put some gold ball on after the new. I did not walk around with the thorn. What did you do? Where did you have dinner? I had dinner at the nice guy.

Okay. How was it? It was good. The food was amazing. Some guys sent us some drinks over. I'm glad you had a good time this time because when Rory and I took you the nice guy before you spent most of your time. You took me to Delilah.

Oh, excuse me, you're right. Same thing. But you spent most of your time at the bathroom on the phone. So hopefully this time you spent. I was not on the phone. Oh, okay. Why what? Why what? It's very dark and sad.

It was two birthdays ago. Yeah, yeah. It was last year. That was, for sure. Well, that was 28-year-old, DeMaris. We're talking about 29-year-old. Whole different person. Reintroduce yourself to her.

Oh, no, I was still depressed this year, too. Man. But it's fine. I was still depressed this year. But I saved it for after Mr. Nice guy. Yeah, no. Damaris, I don't want to put too much of your business out there, but, you know, I was, Oh, it's out there.

Yeah, I put it. You know, I was just scrolling away on, on Instagram as one does over the weekend. Yeah. In a particular hotel, I know the curtains really well. I've stayed there long enough. I can spot those curtains at any time. I can spot any view from every angle.

I know that sofa. I know the thread count of those sheets. Yeah. Uh-huh. It was odd that I saw you post from that hotel, which I knew you were staying there, so that wasn't weird. Interesting. But then a mutual friend, a young lady who's been around for, I'd say, about a year

around the crew. We saw in L.A. Yeah. Happened to be the next story over. with the same exact curtains to some degree. It's a popular hotel. Well, you know, Roy,

every hotel room has the same curtain, so we can't be sure if it was the same room. Well, it was also the same window with the same view. And I don't know if it's a coincidence. Same architect. But it's weird

because she lives in L.A. So I wouldn't think she would be staying in a hotel. So I don't know if there was a coincidence. You know girls do a little staycation thing. Yeah, girls love a good staycation. You ran out of gas. Y'all love a good staycation.

She ran out of gas. So I put this in the group chat of the side by side with the curtains. And the young lady appeared to be laying on the couch with no blanket, no nothing. And Ball pointed out that she had to use a hoodie as a pillow, which I found fucking hilarious. It's good to see women do that too. Because not the only guys don't give their friends like a blanket or a sheet when they spend a night. Like figure it out.

Yeah, like figure it out. I didn't know that women do the same thing. So that was good to see that Baby Dee was on brand because she's in a room full of guys. So she took some of our tendencies. I told her that she could get in the bed. she just had to take her outside clothes off. Oh, G-mo. Oh, G-mo.

I love that line. You'll take your outside clothes off. You know what I'm saying? Why she had no inside clothes? Hypothetically, if she was to have stay with me, I would have told her that she could stay. She did stay with you. Okay.

Listen, Mark Zuckerberg has it filed for life. It's there. I saw it. She was on the couch. It's fine. We can just admit she was there. Uh-huh. Which I find very interesting because you're the second person on this team

that has done this to this young lady. And I just thought it was maybe a weird coincidence. She likes the hotel. They have good amenities. They keep gummy bears stock. Expensive ones. Not that many pillows. So when you were setting the vibe... It's $60 for a fucking

fifth of Casamigos. Yeah, you should just go downstairs. Yeah, well, I don't go to the liquor store. It's a bodega across the street. Yeah. A bodega. It's a bodega. There's a lot. It's literally no bodega. The closest thing they have. It's a pink dot. With the worst Kobe mural of all time. O.D. Oh, my God. That's

embarrassing. All right. So when you were setting the birthday mood and he was like, you know, you could stay in the bed, but you got to... Rory wants to know if y'all let's up. Oh. I did not have sex with that young one. I didn't care about that. I just wanted to know Damaris's swag. That's Rory's way of asking. Like, did you hook up? No, I already asked her on the side. No, but you wanted to ask on the platform.

Would you be on the platform? Would I be big spoon? Yeah. I'm always big spoon with a woman. You look like Bill. I love the fact that you said... You just big. You look. Keep it up. You just big. You just big is hilariously. There was no. There's no, there's no you tinsel or not.

You just big. He said, fuck the bit. You're just big. Damaris said, no, you're just big. It ain't no utensil. And ain't no cuddling involved. You're just big out here. Pissing me off.

Yeah. Damaris, when she got into the bed with no outside clothes on, did you use the, hey, the bra is getting in the way during the massage technique? Roy. Yo, I could give you a massage with this bra strap. You're getting in the way, you know. probably easier if you take it off. But like no creep shit, only if you down.

No creep shit. No creep shit. Only if you down. Like, I'm only doubt if you down. We had a great time. I know you did. I know baby Dee had a good time. I had a happy birthday.

Thank you guys so much. Happy birthday. Thank you fans for the love. The fans saw that I was. Fans. Big fans. Listeners and supporters. A lot of them.

And the only fans now. A lot of them saw that I was having a hard time and they sent me so many kind words. Where were you having a hard time? I didn't see that. When you were out there in an L.A. enjoying yourself, were you fielding people with their depression and, like, suicidal thoughts and your DMs? Oh, yeah, I heard. You weren't a nice guy. You weren't in nice guys.

Like, yo, I got you. I'm here for you. Like, stay strong. She definitely wasn't, she definitely was a response to no DMs. Yeah, I'll be back in 72. Right. I'll respond back. No, this is a new thing in the DMs that is, what is it, quiet mode?

Yeah, you can do quiet mode. No, quiet mode. It's a new mode. It's like D&D. Yeah, it's like they don't even. Oh, who has notifications on their DMs like that? I don't know. I don't have any notifications on my phone.

So when your birthday cake was coming with the candles, you were like, think about your family. Like you were doing that. It's crazy. Thinking about your family. Blowing out the candles afterwards. My birthday wishes for you. My birthday is your birthday.

Oh, yeah. We shouldn't joke about that stuff. I'm glad you're helping people out in the DMs. But did you do anything else in LA? You hit me for Sean's number. Did you guys hit the club? No, we went to go to some Afro beats party. But like we got there and like the kind of vibe we were just on,

We say, yo, fuck it. Let's just go back to the room. So we were there. She don't even know that we go back to marriage. They are so childish. They are so childish. We went back to the room and we just, I was with a bunch of Southern girls. So we just played Southern music all night.

We chicken headed, walked it out, pop locked and dropped it. Oh, yeah, Texas is in Texas. All right. I'm letting him slide right now. But jumped up and down on the bed. Like, we had a, we had a good time. How many do you pack in there? How many did you pack in there?

You fucking sick. Couldn't do that in London. I tried. The mantra, I'll let you do it though. Monja don't let you get your shit off. My two friends were in the bed with me and the other young lady slept on the couch again. Big friend of the show. That's fire.

Well, I'm glad you had a good time. Thank you. Hopefully this year is a better year for you, mentally, physically, spiritually. I appreciate that. Thank you. You look great. I didn't know that the Ares. I thought that was just a waste chain.

I didn't know that the E was in the ad. I didn't know that. But now that you, you know, explain that to me. I'm glad you looked great. Z and was in there. She looked great. She looked great. That's great.

Do you have any, like, goals for the year? Yeah, what are your goals? Goals? I want to be happy. Those are my only goals. I just want to be happy. Um, what's the last time you were happy. And shout. When's the last time, I mean that's sincerely, I'm not like, I don't know. I think chicken selects were on McDonald's menu. Like, it was. It was a lot. It was a simpler time. It's a much simpler time. But I, I have really. over the years that you could have everything that you want in the world, but if you are not okay inside, then it doesn't mean anything. Peace of mind. Yeah. So I just, I want peace of mind. I'm going to start going back to the gym again, meal prepping again, just writing again,

like really getting back into myself and not stop focusing so much on outside ship. It's good to hear that. Good, good birthday reflection. Well, happy birthday again. We love you. We appreciate you. I appreciate you. Um, top, top three birthday texts you got that made your face go like, why you hit me up? I actually did not. get any. Good. That's good. That's good going into your 30s.

I started the year off. Great. There you go. That's good. Not one X hit me up. That's amazing. See, that's the type of, see, remove all of that. That's what you got to do.

Remove those things. Move forward. I think there should be a rule. I was talking to someone over the weekend about this. Through birthday text messages, you know, you get like 80 of them shits. And then you look up and see the last time this person text you was the last birthday. I think before you sent a birthday text. If the last text you sent was a birthday text last year, you should just get

rid of my number and not hit me. That's not true. Not in a bad way, but like, don't, come why you wish me the once a year text? This is annoying. At this point, it's a nuisance. I mean, I understand. Now you're giving me anxiety with the number that's on my text right now. Yeah, I understand that. But you know, listen, man, we all, everybody in life is going through something. Everybody has

their own life, their families, their schedules. But I think that if you genuinely care about somebody and, you know, if the last time you text them just happened to be their birthday, I think you send that text anyway. And then you have a conversation Like, yo, listen, the last time we text, it was a birthday, that's whack this year. We need to, like, speak more, communicate more, just checking on you, checking on me,

whatever, whatever. Like, that's, then you further that conversation. Well, I'm not trying to be a negative Nancy in that sense. I'm saying for that person's life as well, you don't need to take time out of your day. I will not take it personal. We do not talk. Don't feel the pressure that you need to reach out to me on my birthday. That's not pressure.

But I think that one time if you really had a cool, like a close relationship, but y'all were cool or even if y'all dated, I think that you should send a birthday text. For sure. I think so. I think that's... If you've dated? Oh, now you're getting scary waters. No, why?

I mean, I... Well, it depends... It depends on how it ended. If it ended on some nasty, you know, then that's different. But if it ended like, yo, you know, amicably, we cool, you know, we don't speak as much. Obviously, as all as often as we did at one time, but we don't hate each other. Like, there's no bad blood thing. Yeah, go ahead and send that birthday text.

Just give somebody well wishes and a happy New Year to that. I don't know. Maybe I'm a miserable fuck. Well, you are. We know that. Yeah, I mean, duh. But I'll take that over the... Happy Thanksgiving text.

Oh yeah, please. Don't, don't. Yeah, those are. Birthday I can. The holiday ones are annoying. They're annoying. Because then you're, especially when you're home,

you're with your family, you don't want to be like on your phone fielding people you don't really care about. I'd rather just be with my parents, like, stop. Yeah. I'd rather everything just be like in one collective place. So like the text messages annoyed me.

Like if you're going to give you the shout out on Instagram, like Julian didn't text me. He just shouted me out on Instagram. Everything was in like one place. Like don't text me. I just got back to my text today. Like Instagram like I can do. But the text,

Remember when your Facebook wall used to go crazy? Take four days to get back to your content. Is Facebook still popper? You know, it's funny. I found out this morning. With Q&ON and my parents. Oh, I got to check it out. I found out this morning that our Facebook, like the R&M is connected to my personal account.

So every post I make on Instagram has been going up on my personal feed. That's so funny. I just looked at it and like there was just a photo of the birthday post for Demaris was just at the top of my wall. I was like, what is this doing here? And then I scrolled down and it was just like hundreds of all the artwork post, all the everything I've ever posted. How did that make you feel? Did your parents wish me happy birthday under the post?

Yeah, I was going to say like, did your hobby? Like, is that your girlfriend, sweetie? She wouldn't think that because she's not white. She would never think that's not a chance. It was just a joke because that would never happen. You don't have to tell me. It would just, it would never happen. It would never date a black woman with red hair.

Would never happen. While Demaris was gone, in L.A. We went go-karting with some of your friends. Yeah, DeMaris, you missed a fun week. Yeah, we went out. The game went out. We had a night out.

Well, not a night out. A day out. Yeah, a matinee. Yeah, we had caught a little matinee. We went out. We went to go-car racing. We had a good time. I know.

It looked like you guys have so much fun. You guys always look like you have the most fun when I'm not there. Yeah. I didn't want to say it, but, you know. Mall's a fucking cheater, bro. Wow. He played dirty, man. You'll see it in the footage.

I did. I was dropping shit. He was clipping the side of my go cart. I didn't drop anything. You bought Mario. Wait, wait, wait. You bought bananas to throw at him. But I knew that would have like that was racist.

That would have looked crazy. But that was, I feel like woke Twitter didn't play Mario Kart. So I was like, let me, you know what? Maybe Mall should take the bananas. You knew we were playing a game. You didn't know that was go cart. You just bought bananas to throw at him.

That's not. Those bananas came in handy as, as matter of fact, too. Excuse me? Yeah, man. I need it after we got, listen. Ball was throwing Gopros at me. He was throwing Fiji bottles. I didn't throw.

That wasn't me. That was Larry. Larry had a Fiji bottle, I guess, in his pocket or his hoodie pocket and fell out. Y'all were in cahoots. No, my GoPro fell off the car. I was mad because I was like, damn, I wanted it to get the action of me driving. Did you guys break them there? Oh, that one was shattered.

Gone. You'll see. It's all on film. They actually got caught under Larry's car. We went go-karting with Larry June and Alchemist. Shout out to Alchemy. Shout out to Larry June. Footage.

skate this Friday. But yeah, we had fun, man. That was really fun. That was really cool. And that gold car racing was a lot more. It took a toll on us. She was physical, bro. I was exhausted afterwards.

I have a crazy bruise on my leg from, because Al had hit me from the side. He had like teabone me. Yeah, he wrecked you. And in the moment, I didn't realize, but the steering column slammed into my leg. Like, I kind of jerked. But now I have like this big ass bruise right here,

like black, purple and red. blue is crazy. I have a new respect for NASCAR drivers. Oh yeah, absolutely. Because I was just go-car in Jersey City. I could only matter with the fucking Indy 500s. Oh, my God. Indy 500 laps. Jesus Christ. In a real car? Oh, yeah, no. That is definitely something that I hope people

do that and have a respect for that because you look at Indy 5. They're just making laps in a circle and a fast car. No, no, no, no. Like that is a lot on your arms, your legs, your back. And it's and got a little claustrophobic in there under that helmet. Hell yeah. Shit start fogging up. I was like, wait a minute, I got to open this vase a little bit.

I can't even see where I'm going. But we had a good time with Larry. Shout to Larry June. Shout out to Alchemist. Again, Great Escape on DSPs this Friday. And footage will be out at some point this week. Yeah, this week on YouTube. Subscribe to the YouTube.

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Biggest RICO. I'm glad that this came out. I'm glad this thing because we've always had this conversation about algorithms and how they, you know, they mean so much now and everything is based on algorithms. So we had to talk a while ago that algorithms are definitely controlled by somebody. Somebody is controlling this. They can sway it to, you know, either way they want to benefit. whomever they wanted to benefit. It's based off our likes.

Yeah, supposedly. But TikTok has been manufacturing viral moments for Taylor Swift. That was the example they used, yeah. CEO admitted that once Taylor Swift joined the platform, they manipulated the algorithms. So she would be forward-facing because obviously she brings people to the platform, which I get. But at the same time, it's an example of what are they really doing with the algorithms? We saw it with Facebook and Mark Zuckerberg with the first. Trump election and figured that out eight years later of what the fuck they were manipulating.

TikTok being the biggest platform now. I don't want to get into the China stuff, but it's very fucking scary. And as much as I think it's great that the government like checked Mark Zuckerberg for all that stuff, I know their intentions are not for us. Like you're selling people's data. No, you're not selling it to us. Now we need to put a law on it, Marky. And they're going to do this for TikTok. Because now that they have so much business in America, we're going to have to control some

it. China can't have it all. Yeah. So this is going to become, I think, even bigger than what Facebook was because Facebook was so much dedicated to America in so many ways as far as data sharing and the, you know, collusion with Russia, but that's another combo. It's just interesting because now that, you know, the CEO basically came out and admitted to this of manufacturing viral moments, in the area that we're in now, Rory, with numbers and, you know, virality and all of these things mean it so much to brands and artists and companies and things like that. How much? How much? How much? much of how much of this do we have to look at now and say okay what is really real what is really reaching to people what are people really gravitating towards and what is manufactured because obviously this means money this means capital this means a better business for a lot of these people so how much of this do we really have to look at and say yo all right if they're already admitting to this how much more of this have they manufactured and how much more this is real Well, the biggest, I think the biggest advantage is to TikTok over everything.

Of course, it's great for Taylor Swift and her label for when she is forward facing for the day. But even with her, viral moments move on. People move on. They come back to the app for the next viral moment. So you only get a little bit, if you are, say, a company that benefits off this fake algorithm shit for the day. But you only are going to grab so much of the TikTok audience to come back to your specific brand. This just benefits TikTok. Every day I'm going to come to see what the next viral moment is.

I'm not going to necessarily go to whatever the viral moment is afterwards and what they're doing. This is just keeping TikTok relevant forever because now they're controlling the place that we all go to see what the viral moment is. And now they get to pick and choose it. And that's where an election upcoming gets fucking terrifying. I mean, for podcasts in particular, right? We sit down and we talk a lot about different topics and different things. And a lot of the times, you know, when we having conversations that have, viral. The viral thing comes up a lot.

Like, this to me is speaking to the fact that we shouldn't chase viral moments. You shouldn't try to create a viral moment. If something goes viral being organic and something that you're doing on your platform or something that you're doing with your art, then so be it because at the end of the day, they can manufacture a viral moment. So to me, it's like that kind of takes the, you know, the glamour out of having a viral moment because it's like, all right, what's real? I disagree.

So you have to go so far to make a viral moment because they're the ones manipulating it. If you have a real viral moment, like an organic one, you have to do some insane shit. But that was the beauty of TikTok when it started was the whole point was you can get lost in a feed that wasn't curated based on the, like, the, based on how well known the user was. So which lent itself to like the dog face guy with the ocean spray moment happening. The whole world can champion and celebrate that because it was literally a random dude on a skateboard drinking cranberry juice. And that changed the app. I mean, it kind of blew up the app in the process of its inception. But I did want to say in terms of the government getting involved,

the Algorithmic Accountability Act, which was passed last year, is supposed to create that transparency between Congress and these privately owned apps about what they're doing with the data, how they use it, how they sell it, and who they sell it to. So there's some efforts to get ahead of it, but it's still, this is all still new. So young. Again, I'm glad that the government is doing that, but I don't think they're doing it with us in mind. I don't think it's being done with good intentions. They need to be checked, but it is more so power-based government-wise.

They're not doing it for like the Freedom Act for us. Like, we need to be able to control this, not y'all. So what the fuck is going on? So we can do some checks and balances and make sure we are now the sole controllers of what this is going to be. I mean, so to me, what I take from this is, you know, for content creator, for, you know, influencers and things like that. Other artists, this kind of just proves you just like taking the curtain back

and finding out the Wizard of Oz isn't really a wizard. It's like somebody back there is controlling this and they control what they decide they want to push, what they decide they don't want to push. So I don't know what this means for content creators. You know, I mean, I know it's definitely has to shake things up because now you're like, okay, if they decide that they want to push you, they'll push you.

If not, it doesn't matter what the fuck you do or how outlandish your content is or how great it is. If they're not fucking with it, they're not fucking with it. I would still say first and foremost to keep making content. But second of all, I feel like there's nothing wrong with still trying to make a viral moment or viral material. Like, I don't think all the natural stuff is the only way.

But I do. See, I don't like when people do things for a viral moment. It's corny. You don't like it and y'all don't like it because y'all are cool. The world likes it because it blows up every single day. Yeah, but at what cost though? Like, because if you're doing corny, crazy outland and shit to go viral, that's stupid. It doesn't have to be corny crazy shit.

90% of the time it's corny. I'm not 99. Let's look at an example of Shiggy. Shiggy is not corny. Shiggy is fucking hilarious. Shiggy had that moment with the Drake thing took off. And then after that he was trying to do that dance, like recreate that dance with other artists. And that was just like, come on, dude.

Yeah, but that's a content create. I think Shiggy would be a bad example of that. Yeah, you milk the thing that you do. Like that's just what you have to do. but that's what I'm saying. I'm not mad at what Shiggy did because I thought Shiggy had a great moment and got him to Madison Square Garden

on stage with Drake. Yeah. He also had funny sketches. Yeah, funny like I'm saying like Renton repeating that dance, not him as a personality, not at the scene too much. Yeah, not get what you're saying.

It's like just that moment. That's part of it. Well, he did. I mean, but it could have went well for him and it could have went wrong for him. It went well for him. Yeah, it went really well for him. That's it.

And also for Shiggy to be in a Drake video, it wasn't, that wasn't his big break. Shiggy, for Drake to recognize you, Shiggy was already blowing up all over the place. No, he, Drake had no choice but. Yeah, yeah, yeah, like. Shiggy. And, but, but again, it's like, it's, is that, though.

Now that you had that viral moment, again, you keep trying to recreate that by doing the same thing over and over. You kind of have to milk things for a little bit, though. It's not like, okay, don't do it forever. I agree with that. Don't do the same thing forever. But you got to milk the moment. Oh, no, milk the moment.

I get that. But now, but now it's like, now that you know that these violets. moments can be manufactured. What does that mean? How does that affect a content creator? How does that affect your thought process? How does that affect what you're doing? Because now it's like, yes, you're chasing a viral moment before we even knew that this was manufactured.

I think we kind of felt like it was manufactured. But the CEO basically came out and admitted to it. Yeah. So now it's like for content creators, how do you create your content now? Because, again, you could do the greatest thing in the world. But if they don't want to push that to the algorithms and say, oh, this is dope, it's, Somebody basically controlling these numbers is what I'm saying. Is somebody behind this whole app that's controlling what gets pushed, where it gets pushed.

It's across the board with everything. Fuck TikTok and video content with music too. I was literally. Well, that's what I'm talking to say. Everyone has known that a lot of these playlists and the popular playlist that are created by the DSP are manipulated and curated by the company. And when you find out the majors have stock in the DSP, it's, you know, Santa Claus isn't real anymore. Right. But people have had to adjust.

Like, you see real artists cutting their songs from four minutes to 2.30 because they know that they kind of have to play the game to some degree to get in those playlists and to get in those algorithms because it makes people, hit repeat, hit repeat because it's the quality of content. Exactly. So I don't, I think we're kind of past the idea of just figuring this out. It's across the board with everything. We have to adjust. And sometimes the real shit is organic and grows.

the way it does, but everyone has to play this game right now. I've never seen the algorithm or anything in the algorithm be like, oh, well, that's real as fuck. You know what I'm saying? Oh, like, oh, that's real. Like, no one's tried to make actual content before. And even like down to music videos, there has to be a certain part. All right, what are we going to use for the TikTok moment?

Exactly. What is the meme moment? What everyone has to adjust to everything they're doing? Even podcasting, when we cut down clips, you have to think in conversations, what is going to be the peak here? What is going to be the shit that'll be sharing? on TikTok. Everyone has to adjust. Everybody is searching for viral forever. And it's been that way, I mean, shit, you could go back to

the CD stores, manipulating what would be in the front when you first walked in. Like, it's always been here. It's just crazy. And now that TikTok, the actual fucking influence TikTok has on the world right now is in a chokehold. That's what's so scary. As someone that's been at the major label in the TikTok era, we did have deals with TikTok where they would give us quarterly allowance or boost codes. So when I say, you know, one of my bigger artists that was obviously huge on TikTok, say Jason DeRullo, we'd put like $50,000 in just boost codes just on one video, just here, pump it, like go.

Like press play, press go. We would roll out, you know, $100,000 per single. And then also specific to Jason, we'd worked out a deal where they would give. give him a banner on TikTok, which is kind of like, you know, having, remember back in the day you had the banner on a World Star that used to be a bit. It was like pretty much the equivalence of that. And they would, it was weird. We tried to, I don't know if I'm like, no, fuck it. They tried to like manufacture a trending hashtag with, uh, with him where I forgot the word that we were using for the hashtag, but I remember fighting with TikTok because I saw the game they

were trying to play. The song was called Lifestyle. And I was like, that's too general of a word. No one's going to know it's about the song. You guys are trying to give us like a false pitch. The hashtag, the hashtag, like, no, that's a word. We needed to be specific to the record. And I guess they still finested and got away. But like, and of course, the song didn't perform how I thought it would because they were like, well, it's the pinned video under lifestyle. So if you click that word on platform, it would be that video first.

But it just kind of got watered down and mixed into it. But like, those deals are being cut. Those are all being manufactured. those are all millions of multi-millions of dollars at stake in terms of, you know, where we would put the focus, especially for an artist like him. And it's a favor for a favor. Like when we're able on Instagram now with our stories, we can click music and it'll pop up. That's because it's licensed by the label that owns it.

And of course, Instagram is going to do favors for label artists at that point. Like people are buying all these catalogs for a reason because apps like TikTok need to license that music. And it's way more important than this new shit. the back catalog is what is going to work with TikTok. So let me go buy the shit. And I'm talking to content creators right now as the resident person in this room who uses TikTok consistently is addicted to it and also uploads on it.

I understand that they're attacking TikTok right now in the media because it's a private own company and the government is not fucking with it. And there's all types of shit. Go and watch the court docs for yourself. You can go on TikTok and there's creators on there that will break it down for you if you are confused. But every major content creator will tell you that. If you want an authentic, organic audience, if you want to go viral quicker and if you want to build your following, TikTok is the place to go.

Instagram is not the place to go. Instagram has the worst algorithms in the world. They are trying to sell you on stuff all the time. I see, I can go on TikTok right now and I'm on TikTok all the time. I will see people with two likes, five views. Like you see people's content so much easier than you will ever do on Instagram Reels. Instagram does not pay you well. TikToks pays you better. I'll speak to the content creators right now. Like Instagram does not pay you well

and on top of that. If you are going to be making a reel on Instagram, you need to go to the Instagram content creator page, go to their little playlist highlight that they have with the songs that are big right now, trending songs, which are just songs that labels are paying them to push. And you will not go viral as easy if you don't use those songs. So you have to use those songs. You have to go through a whole bunch of shit. You cannot edit in the app and Instagram. They'll stay won't push your shit if you don't edit in the app. So like if you edit your video on TikTok, take it from TikTok, put it on Instagram Reels.

They will not push it. The same thing with any other platform, like if you're using an editing app. So there's a lot that's going on with the content creating world, but do not let them push you against TikTok because he's not the only person doing that. And every content creator will tell you that TikTok is the best platform for creating content. So they're pushing a band TikTok in my correct? Yeah.

Yes. That's where that's where that is coming from. So they had the hearing. Weird comparison. last week. But with the cryptocurrency wave that it came in, obviously we saw the government do their best to try to block it or regulate it or figure out some way to not make it grow the way it could. Yeah. I think this is probably the first app that's had the biggest influence that's not an American company.

I could be wrong. I'm just really just throwing that out there. Spotify is the last one that comes in mind. But that they can't change an election. I don't know. I'm saying the way Facebook could do it with data. and actual video in your face type shit, I'm sure Spotify could find a way,

but they were Swedish. We didn't care. They're allies. China, on the other hand, do we think that's where, why there's been so much of this band TikTok thing? And it's about the kids and it's ruining their minds.

Or is this simply because they have so much power and it's not an American company, the same way cryptocurrency could affect our actual U.S. currency. Well, I would agree with you that, but the CEO of TikTok said he doesn't allow his kids to use that. So that's just like, all right, If the guy who created it is telling you, I do not allow my kids to use this. I'm surprised.

Then you got to look. Okay, why? If the CEO is not letting his kids use it, then we got to kind of look into it. And we're like, why not? Because I think it's because it's addicting. Like it is genuinely, I'm an adult. I'm an adult. And I will be on, I will look up and be like, I have been on TikTok for two fucking hours.

So the point where after a while on TikTok, there's a little black lady that pops up and says, hey, you should probably, you've missed. scrolling for a while. You should probably stop, take a couple deep breaths. Go get a snack. Yes. I'll go, I'll scroll right past the ass. Did it give you an ad for a snack? No. It's just like, you're missing out of money. You've been on here for a lot. Put a snickers ad right there. You're not yourself when you're scrolling through TikTok for two hours.

I'm pretty sure because it's a dick thing. But on top of that, like you said, with TikTok, there's so much information on TikTok where people can say whatever they want. And a lot of people be like, there's a lot of conspiracy shit. And like, there's a lot of and stuff and people be like blowing the fucking US government in and because it's not owned by the US government and they're not in partnership or anything they let it rock out so there's a lot of truth on TikTok

shit that if you put it on Facebook there's a lot of misinformation as well yes well there's misinformation anywhere but this is the thing if I go on Facebook or I go on Twitter or I go on Instagram and I say anything about COVID I get marked this is not accurate information things like that TikTok's not doing it

they mark me too and I said the same thing yeah exactly they let you get your shit off. So the government does not like a lot of that. Fouchy doesn't pop up. Fouchy doesn't pop up. Fouchy doesn't pop up. Say, wash your hands.

You've been scrolling for a while. You need some hand sanitizer. You need some hand sanitizer. Wash your hands. Put a mask on. But I think, long story short, I think that this is very interesting. I'm very interested to see how it plays out. If they ban TikTok, I am going to be a sad.

I don't think they're going to ban it. I think they're going to try to regulate it to some degree. More so with China. It's like the tobacco and weed industry. Like we still, one, they could control. Like, so in this instance, Facebook is the American, that's the tobacco. Now we have this foreign entity, the weed that grows rapids growing faster. It's out of our control.

What do we do to bring it in? How do we get our cuts? Pretty much what the government is. It's all about money. And how do we regulate this? And how do we regulate it? So, I mean, I've never been on TikTok. So this doesn't mean anything to me.

You drop some money bags on TikTok. Never. You would. I'm saying you would. Oh, I mean, well, I've never. They're out there. They're on there. I don't use TikTok, but I see, like, I get enough videos sent to me, like, texted to me.

I'm like, they're there. I've never been on TikTok. I don't plan on being on TikTok. I don't like the name TikTok. Yeah. You hate King, John Wool. Yeah. So I'm just, that's not your guy.

South Korea. Yeah. That's North Korea. They don't have phones. They're doing it right. Yeah, I'm about saying. There's an idea. There's an idea.

He got it right. No choice. Say what you want. He's smoking this suppression over there. Yeah. Yeah, y'all better look more into that. So we'll just have to see where this whole TikTok thing goes. People, please don't go crazy if they ban TikTok.

Well, there was also another part of the hearings that they had last week about, specifically with black creators and not being in the algorithm and being paid less as well. Where was the response to that one? Like, nah, what? That's what I cared most about. What? So Yvette Clark, who is a woman that spoke at the hearing, went in about pretty much how disproportionate the algorithm favors white creators,

which in turn creates brand opportunities, which gets them deals, modeling agencies, acting deals, all those things, creates wealth within a very specific community. And it's cool because this is low key. It's the modern form of segregation

by way of our phones. So instead of, you know, being in your face and seeing the water fountain that's like whites only, figure out the fuck out if you're black. This is creating a disparate. Crazy comparison.

No, I get what he's saying. But you know, it's less, it's easier. us to consume because it's less in it's less in your face whereas before it was you can't go in this pool because you're black you're just not welcome here it's less direct but it's just as harmful because we're doing things as as as as the more we use this app the more these things are you know

becomes normalized that are going to be in turn far worse and more damaging than the things that were just for better worse like less for direct black and white and i mean so many of the trends do start from the black. All of them. To begin with, and once, you know, it's the Elvis shit all over again. Yeah.

But no, I get what you're saying as far as that being modern day segregation. Yeah. If you can now make sure that only a certain face is seen and only a certain face is paid

what they should be paid. Now you have the excuse of like, well, everyone gets paid the same. It's like, yeah, but you're putting this face in front of everyone and making sure this one is suppressed. And they... Yeah, it's an even playing field

as far as compensation, but not as far as promotion. So what it really, what it really is is that they're pushing what is deemed. So more attractive, the more attractive people get pushed on TikTok more, right? They'll say that that's because more people like their picture,

I mean, their videos or whatever, stuff like that. But it's more like, so for example, on my for you page, I have a very hard time finding white women. Like you can scroll my for you page all day

and it's mainly black women, right? What is just called my for you? My for you page. It's like your explore page. Yeah, basically. On TikTok.

Yeah. So basically they curate a playlist of video. that they think I am interested in. Yeah. Now what the problem is... The Uber drivers do that a lot too. They see you walking in the car. Oh my God, I hate it.

They'll put on hip-hop. I'm like, I don't want to hear Jay-Z this early in the morning, sir. You can put some jazz on. Some jazz. Like, why you start banging 4-4 as soon as I get in the car? I mean? Like, you know, it's 10 o'clock in the morning. What are you doing?

That's crazy. That's crazy. That's the algorithm, though, right? Like, he's looking at me. He's like, oh, I know what this guy likes. No, you don't. don't you don't know what I like but yeah so I see a lot of black women but every once in a while like the big big viral videos of like you know some people of other races do get put in my for you page

what there what people are basically saying is for the opposite like if I'm a white girl and I have all white girls on my videos no matter how big a black creator might get they won't push that into their algorithms yeah you see I'm saying so it's it's something that that needs to be fixed uh for sure but marks is way worse Instagram is Instagram reels are way, way worse. It's just funny to hear what we at with social media these days. Like, I'm old enough to remember when none of this was a thing. Like, none of this was even a thought.

It's a multi-billion. And now I've made most of my money in my career. This is what I'm saying, now what it does and what the world is today and how much it means to creators and artists. It's absolutely insane that this is really like life for people. where everyone consumes their news, entertainment, information. But which is why that's dangerous because... It's the central part of everyone's life. But that's dangerous because now, again,

there's somebody controlling this, right? So now if you're getting your news and your information from these platforms, it's like how much of this is real? How much of this is just what people they want to feed to you? That was the Facebook problem. And that's why I understand why the CEO would not want his kids on it because it's like, I don't... You're going to be...

fed things that aren't real. You're going to, you're going to become programmed to things that don't really matter. And I don't want my kids to be programmed. Well, and you see where the government is mad at TikTok being a private company. You could say the same thing about Fox, CNN, MSNBC. We never put them on trial. Yeah. Like you, all of you have been giving misinformation for this amount of years and no one has been had to be accountable for it. And people literally watch you and think it's law. Yeah. They base their lives and opinion. and decisions off what you guys put out and it's clear that you're lying.

Why are they not on trial? But TikTok is because it's a private company. Yeah, what they sued them for 900 million? Billions. A couple billion, no? Alex Jones? Yeah. And that's because, I mean, look,

RIP, that was obviously tragic and terrible what he was saying. But I feel like they only did that because it was white kids. What do you mean? Oh, the whole Sandy Hook? Yeah. Like, it's black.

He didn't give a five. Oh. Yeah. Well, probably. I mean, did Alex Jones say any other words? said no no that would their whole thing was a leaning into the sandy hook yeah incident well i mean we'll have to see where ticot goes with this thing uh if it's going to be banned in america or not edin is hoping that it isn't banned at the edge of his edge of his c's gonna go crazy if they ban this

in in america uh he is at the edge of his seat though why is it me no because you i know you don't want them to ban i've got i have a video of you and you can probably taste the video here It's a video of you falling asleep on the algorithms. So we can put that in the video for people to see you falling asleep on the algorithms. Bad money crazy. On Patreon, we'll break that video down. It was a hard. No, no, listen, I still love you.

Listen, you just fell asleep on the algorithm. That's all I'm saying. Beyonce is leaving Adidas to go to Balmain. I don't know if that's accurate as far as the headline. Okay, so let me shut the fuck up. Beyonce is not leaving Adidas to go to Balmain. No, they ended their deal in partnership. due to lack of sales.

I'm Beehive. Everyone relax. I'm just trying to give accurate information. That deal did not work out. So Beyonce is not leaving for Beaumain. That deal is just done. And now she's doing a deal with Ballamee. Oh, okay. She wasn't like, yeah,

with Dita's peace, I'm going to go fuck a Beaumain. That deal was going to be dead regardless. So it just wasn't working out well. Why do we think this didn't work? The designs were great. Yeah. It's Beyonce. The rollout was insane.

Beyonce was looked incredible was getting a little salacious We saw some cheeks that we'd never seen before Yo There was great That's that man's wife's wife What are you doing? I'm just talking about with the campaign

Don't say you've seen cheeks though But they were on the screen I did but no but don't say you seen it There was one when they were in bed together I know but don't say you seen it You gotta just scroll and act It was in my algorithm I had no choice

It was in my for you page You were to act like you didn't see You're for you guys The man's wife in your algorithm That's crazy Right What he's sick His wife is Beyonce

It's fucked up bro How is it not in my algorithm? She's in everybody's algorithm. That's a fact. Not even manipulated. It's just there. Yeah, it's not as there. Some of your phone, Beyonce.

But again, is Beyonce, the clothes and designs were great. I thought the rollout was great. Why did this not work? The price points weren't crazy. I know resale was what resale is going to be, but I thought it was somewhat readily available. I think the first one was hard to get. But after that, I felt like I walked into Adida store and I could get the shit. Well, that's the problem.

It should have been exclusive? Is what you're saying? No, it should have been on the shelf. Should have sold out. this goes back to a conversation that we had about sometimes you know just because you're big in this area and you're a superstar in this area doesn't mean that you can sell lifestyle um i know one person that a lot of people point to is uh just as probably as big as drake you don't see a bunch of people wearing ovio apparel yeah you don't see a bunch of people unless they be supporting the brand like you

You're just like the consolation prize. That's like his Derek Jeter basket. Yeah, you like ask the girl, where you get that hoodie from? Like, I know you didn't walk into the OVO store in Soho and grab down. Imagine when you're flying with a woman and she has the Jordan OVO backpack that they only made four of. Jesus Christ. Like, where did you? That's a whole other conversation.

Can I borrow that? Can I borrow that? It goes back to that. Like, it's like they can't really sell lifestyle like that. Music, great. But I don't think Drake goes out the way Beyonce did. on this campaign. He's definitely opened up stores in Toronto, the city, and they've sold well.

Like, we may not buy that stuff, but fans buy those hoodies. It's more merch than it is actual fashion. Yeah, fashion. I think Beyonce went fashion on this one. I think Drake knows he's not the fashion guy and can only merch it. Yeah, but it's even still, though, it's a lot of things that the bigger artists and celebrities, they can't really sell lifestyle stuff. Like, nobody really cares what you're wearing.

Nobody really cares. You know what I mean? It's just like, we don't care what you're drinking. care what you're wearing, like, when's the, when's the music coming? And sometimes you just get so big in a certain area where it's like, people don't even give up. You can wear the same outfit every day and nobody would care. You know what I mean? It's kind of like you're that big to a point where nobody's looking at you for what you're wearing. We want to know what are you, what is, what music is coming. But with Beyonce, I would have, not that I would have been invited to this

boardroom to discuss it, but if someone brought those designs, that rollout and Beyonce, I would have said, home run. Like, don't, don't. Don't. as much money as you want into this. We're going to make it back. But that goes back to what I'm saying. People are sometimes so big in certain areas of what they're known for that people don't really care about the lifestyle shit. Some people don't even pay attention to that.

It's like, we want the music. The campaign was bigger than the actual clothes, is what you're saying. Well, it has to be because that's one of the biggest stars in the world. So the campaign has to be out of this world. But at the same time, it's like, when's the album coming? You know what I mean? And it's like, like Rihanna, right? Rihanna is, she's probably not as big in music as Beyonce, right?

That's safe to say. She's big in music, but not as big as Beyonce. She's selling beauty. She's selling lifestyle. She can move those things because it's like she hasn't reached that level to where it's like, you're so big in music that we don't even give a fuck what you're wearing. Okay, good comparison. Sephora, obviously being for makeup, do you think Rihanna could have done that with another makeup company

that wasn't already such a staple in every girl's life and then just add in Rihanna with good product and you're a billionaire. I think Rihanna could have done that with any beauty line. Now I'll say with this, Adidas is a billion dollar company. Staple in our lives. Why is, why does it not translate the same way with Beyonce and Adidas the way it does with Sephora and Rihanna? I'm going to be honest too. And not to, you know, I'm not putting the owner so much on Beyonce and her ability to push lifestyle and things like that. A lot of people just, just don't jackadidas like that.

If this was Nike, I think this goes totally different. You think? Absolutely. I don't know. Absolutely. I don't think it changes at all. If this was Nike, if this was Nike, I think this goes a whole different way. Well, Demaris made a really good point off Mike.

Yeah. Where can you wear this as an average human being? True. So if Beyonce was just doing like the swishy pants and like maybe a hoodie or some shit like that, something you could wear out, you can't wear this working out. But it is athletic wear. But also where does a. a regular person like wear this

brunch oh yeah I never thought about it until de Maris said that because I looked at this stuff and said oh I see a bunch of chicks wearing stuff like this I think that listen the designs were dope

I don't think it's a I don't think it comes down till they didn't look good I just think that at the end of the day people just don't really jack which is why I would Kanye was able to do with Adidas was so special because people just don't

jack Adidas like that I think that's what it I think that's what it boils down to people. Or is this a prime example of women not supporting women and men support men. We bought all those fucking years. Drake's got knocked to killing too. Did women just not go out and support people? I'm saying.

But like this is, how is this any different? To Rory's point, Drake partnered with a brand that has name recognition. No, Drake partnered with a brand that people already love. You can put the, you can put the swoosh on anything. You can't do that to Kanye. Adidas was at its peak, though, when this Ivy Park should happen. Yeah, because of Kanye. Yeah, fair.

No, because of Kanye. But that's what I'm saying. To speak to Kanye's ability and his power, it's just like, it's different. That's why he's such an anomaly because it's like, yo, he was able to take a brand that was forgotten about as far as lifestyle is concerned. People didn't really look to Adidas for lifestyle stuff. Nike was obviously the juggernaut when they came to that. But what he was able to do because, again, he started at Nike. And Nike didn't give him what he wanted.

So he said, okay, I'm going to show you all that I can take this to a place where they don't even go to for this type of stuff, for lifestyle stuff. Well, at that point, and make that high. The boost that existed and Adidas was in the process of stealing all of Nike's head designers, which they ended up doing. Swag. Yeah. And then to Kanye. So it was kind of a crazy. I think again, the rabbit had the guns.

Good poaching. Okay. So put it like this. I guarantee you, I guarantee you if now she's going to Ball Main, right? Yeah, but I think it's drastically different than this. I guarantee you this sells out. Those margins are completely different. Okay.

Well, but that's what I'm saying. People will Jack Ball Main. They like Ball Main. They're going to wear that. People don't want to wear it. Different market. Let our in-house. woman that speaks for all women on earth and all

Joanna fans. Let's pull back. First of all, we don't know exactly what Beyonce is doing with Balman. She has some designs that came out that are in partnership with her record from her latest with the records from her latest album where they were inspired by. Those are Balman. Those are designed with her by her in Oliver or Olivier, however he pronounced his name, that is the creative director for Balman.

none of us can afford them Yeah someone's gonna wear that on a red carpet Like those are like red carpet looks Mark it okay That's not just something This is not lifestyle stuff This is just like hell It's like one of those campaigns

I thought she was gonna do like some dope sweatsuits No no no no no no no no no no no You pull this shit like that So she did lines God damn That was that was Oh yeah this is this is something totally discus Let's also address the truth

When it comes to this Adidas deal And let's be honest and see where Let's do our little fake little PR team and say, okay, how could Beyonce have done this better or how her team could have done this better? A, when you think of Beyonce, you do not think Ath leisure. I agree. When you think of Beyonce, you do not think of Fleture. I just don't think about clothing at all. Yes. I think that's the big disconnect that she's not looked at as a fashion person. But if you are going to do any type of clothing, like for example, Kim Kardashian sells the type of clothes that she wears and that she makes popular with the body type that she has and that whole. all the people that want to be little Kim Kardashian clones, they go and they put on fucking basics and they look like her.

That's why Skims is so fucking huge, right? So with Beyonce, you don't think of aft leisure. Another thing is when Beyonce was sending out the PR boxes, Beyonce was not sending them to the people she should have been sending them to. Some of them chicks that got that. I was like, all right, hold on now. Reese Witherspoon wasn't on your influencer list? Like, she did, she did to a lot of celebrities and there were some

influencers in the mix, right? But like what Rihanna is doing, what Fence, the people that Fenty and like skims are selling products to, I see, those are the girls that I follow on TikTok, the 23-year-old girls who are known for their fashion beauty and they're going to influence the younger, younger generation, right? Are you saying that Beyonce doesn't have the culture? No, that's not what I'm saying. I was just trying to sit in a hot way.

Did Ivy Park not send out to like young fashion kids, I feel like? Not just celebrities? Not the ones that are going to push the influencers to the younger kids. Well, the headline of this article specifically says, Beyonce sends out huge Ivy Park gifting box to A-list friends. Yeah. Well, I guess this would just be an example of attention doesn't necessarily need sales. I mean, you could have everyone wearing it on IG that's the biggest ever.

Doesn't mean it's going to try. Because those are not. We can get into a whole influencer conversation about who is actually influencing nowadays. But that's a whole other thing. On top of that. The final nail in the coffin, it was presented as hard to get. Like Rory said, oh, you could go and you could get it. But there were plenty of times where I would have to buy things resale, right?

Because it would sell out online, which is where everybody shops. Almost nobody goes into brick and mortar stores anymore unless you are trying to get like a Jordan release that like you found out one store has it. So unless you're coming on that type of time where you have people raffling off tickets, you become you make it a major thing. People are going to try to sell this online. It was selling out easily online, which a lot of people do to create kind of like FOMO. There were just a lot of mistakes that they made. I loved Ivy Park. One of the pair of sneakers that I have from it is one of my favorites.

But they just did a lot of things wrong. And I'm sure that she learned her lesson from it. Maybe you didn't get it because Ellen had it. So she had your pack. Okay. In their defense, though, with these boxes, let's be real. Only certain people you could have that big ass orange box in front of your house. They steal my Amazon packages outside.

If they rolled down this orange box in front of it, front of my crib. It's getting stolen. You have to be Ellen's. I have the driveway for this. I think it goes back to what I'm saying. It's the fact that it's Adidas. That is not. No. It's not. If this does Nike, I think it's the same result. Bro, listen. It's the same result. With the, what they, with the easy shit, it don't even say Adidas. It says Yeezy. Because it's Kanye. He is, his namesake is their clothing. This is what I'm trying to tell you. He removed the

whole Adidas thing and put YZY. Okay, but most of this is Ivy Park. This is Ivy Park. I see an Adidas swish or something. Like, yeah, this, this wasn't super Adidas to me. Of course it has a three strikes, but even some of the easy shit, you see the three stripes. If it happened with Nike, the same exact thing would happen.

No way. Just to put numbers behind it, it was projected to do $335 million this year. That was the target. They're projected to do $65 million. So it's over $200 million off in projections. But again,

I feel like they even, on the last drop, didn't even promote it like that. There wasn't much supply. Like, I felt like they gave up on this after maybe the, green drop. Yeah.

It was the maroon one than the green one. I felt like they gave up after the green. I didn't really see a lot of promotion. I know they put other shit out but it didn't feel

like anyone really cared. I didn't see a lot of promotion. And just again, like where the fuck are you wearing these clothes? Like honestly, where are you wearing these clothes if you are not in like

the entertainment? No, that's a nice jacket. That's a calm fit right there. That's fine. Yes, but it's not a calm enough fit for the average every day. Like I said, going back to skims,

that stuff anybody, when I say anybody, I mean, high school, girls who are just going to gym class. But isn't Skim just undergarments? No, it's basic. Well, they wear undergarments as outer garments.

Which is where she made her business from. She made undergarments that you can wear as outer garments, right? But didn't Beyonce have some of that stuff that looked skim-esque? Yes, but it was all, it was all, the majority of it was all bright colors. Yeah. It just wasn't shit that you could wear every day. It wasn't shit that you could wear more than once. And it wasn't shit that if you're not into fashion, you're comfortable putting on.

Also, this was a brand Kanye gave to Kim. But that... This was his. Have to add that part in there. Let's put some sauce. It is a design to some degree. Yeah. But even to DeMaris's point, well, you could say that with Yeezys now.

Like, I could wear Yeezes when I run errands. I could wear them out in Look Eye. I could wear them when I'm dressing up, when I'm dressing down. Like, they work with everything. So I see her point with Ivy Park. Where the fuck do you wear that? You know. Like where?

Very special occasions. So I just feel like there were... There were a lot of factors that went into that. But I would like, I'm happy to see, like, her next. You know, venture. Her next endeavor. I mean, I don't think she'd strapped for cash.

I think she'll be out. Oh, yeah. She ain't. They're paying her $20 million a year on the contract, by the way, too. Yeah, she's not, that's not, the money is not a thing. I think, I think more so is just the fact that obviously was a disconnect in the designs. Obviously, was it a disconnect with the marketing team and things like that. They didn't send you anything.

They didn't send you any. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't know. What's they doing over there, Ivy Park? I don't know what's going on. Just an emoji 20% off? My thing when I see things like this is, where's the beehive? at. What do you mean? Oh, you don't think it translates to. Yeah, why they, why they didn't,

why they didn't swarm in, in, in bipolar? Because they're watching, because they're watching swarm. Nice. Yeah. I mean, because they're murdering people. I just, I just, I just, I just, I just, you know, when I know that people have, you know, artists and celebrities have these big followers and these big, you know, all of these supporters, which is great. I think that's dope that, you know, people get behind their favorite artists and champion for them like that. But my thing is, don't just support them in one area, support them all across the. boy support all of their endeavors. I'm sure the Beehive tried to get as much product as they could.

Yeah. And I'm also with, like with the beehives and the stands and everyone, I think it's totally fine if you just champion their wins and are dead quiet about their losses. Dude. I know we're not allowed to do that. No, yeah. Don't do that. So what, all right.

So where the Beehive at? If I'm a super, if I'm a super, super Beyonce fan, I have plenty of things to talk about when it comes to win. Like what am I going to tweet today? No, and I don't look at this. Blame the label. It's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, like, you just said, she's getting $20 million I was a year off. This is not a loss to me.

If anything, this is something where I think that she learns from it and says, okay, this is what we didn't do. This is how we should have went about this and move forward. She'll get another opportunity at this. Maybe with Nike. Well, no, you clearly see where she's putting her name next to high-end shit.

This is high-end. And I think she's going to stay there. Look at the spin, though. This one fan tweeted when Beyonce said she's leaving Adidas for creative differences. This is what she meant. Beyonce, Ballame. I don't, I didn't see any report of Beyonce saying she's leaving for

Yeah, no. Clearly lack of revenue. Yeah. And I don't think she went into Adidas and was like, we should do this. No, this is not for Adidas. She looks great. But see, but this is, this is who Beyonce is. It's high level.

It's high fashion. It's the queen. It's, you know, the arguably the greatest artist ever. Like, maybe she shouldn't be trying to do the athlegia thing. She's maybe above that. She's a mom. I can see it. No, it makes sense.

She don't wear her own shit. That's the other thing. She don't wear her own shit. Yep. But how do you know? You don't see Beyonce enough to know if she wears her own shit. You don't see Beyonce enough. But this is the thing.

If I owned a clothing line and I wanted people to buy it, I would be out getting caught purposely by the paparazzi. They set up those. She's beyond. She's beyond. She's not. Well, obviously because the clothing label isn't working and it didn't sell the way it was supposed to. Obviously, maybe she should have. That's all I'm saying.

If you have, if you have a line, it's an a aphleisure line. and you want people to be fucking grocery shopping and walking their dog in your shit, then you need to be seen. Sometimes you have to show them how to wear it and wear to wear it. Exactly. I think Beyonce grocery shops?

You fake it. You fake it. You put the chef in it and have them go to the store. I think it comes down to, you know, maybe she had to show when and how to wear this stuff. Like when do you wear it? How do you wear it? Instead of just doing a campaign for it,

be seen out in certain events in it. Yeah. You know what I mean? I think that's it. But I'm sticking to my guns. I think if this was Nike, this goes a whole different way. I don't care what y'all says. Maybe a tiny bit, but not like it.

I'm sure it would have sold a little bit more because obviously Nike sells more than Adidas. But no. So what we're talking about is more sales. And I guess, yes, there was a PR. Go back to that quote, please. Yeah. There was something said by the PR team. There has apparently been a major creative difference between Ivy Park and Adidas and Beyonce is excitedly.

Excitedly. I was going to say expediently. Yeah. You know, I can't read it. You want to make it tougher than it already. Looking to reclaim her brand, chart her own path and maintain creative freedom. That's a good cleanup. Sure.

I mean, that's a nice. It's also smart of them to sever these ties and then immediately announce the next thing right after. Listen, this is why we left. Beyonce is the queen for a reason. And this is just something that she'll look back on and say, yeah, we did this wrong. This didn't work out. But then we ended up doing this, which is amazing. Moe already did the greatest segue ever with Swarm.

But I do want to get back to it. Have you guys watched the show? Watched it, loved it, thought it was great. Shout out to Donald Glover. I thought that the writing was dope. Just, you know, approaching obsessive fan culture the way he did. Mixed in with social media. Mixed in, you know, just a bunch of shit that we see and read daily.

I thought that they did a great job on it. Shout out to what is the girls, Dominique Fishback or Fishbeck? Fishback, right? Fishback, right? Don't ask me. Dominique Fishback. She did an amazing job. Love her walk.

Yeah, this was great, man. This was a good watch. I watched the whole season. I'm halfway through now. Didn't think they'd lead with Chloe's cheeks, by the way. I thought that was later in the season. That's like the first scene of episode one. I was like, oh, great, Chloe.

Yeah, no, it was, shout out to Chloe. She did a great job in it as well. Shout out to Dempson. He did a good job. All the actors that was in it did a really good job. But the writing was really dope. And I think this is, I like Dominique Fishback. I loved her in the, what is it, Black Messiah?

The Messiah, when she was a, with the the black Judas and the black Messiah. Gotcha. She was in that. I loved her in that.

But this one, she did a really great job because obviously this was positioned around her. She was the main character in Swarm. Amazing job. I thought it was dope. And I think that Donald found the niche.

I think he's going to have more shows like this where he just takes a topic and just writes an entire seven, eight episode series around it. Well, it's funny. I was waiting for the Stan episode of Atlanta. Because, you know, they focus on a lot of stuff with the music industry,

dedicate episodes to it. I was waiting in the last season of Atlanta. I was like, I wonder when they're going to go through this stand shit with Paperboy. Yeah. And they touched on it here and there throughout the series,

but they never gave a full episode. This was, this to me, it's why he waited. Swarm was it. It really, really dove into the whole Gen Z serial killer type of thing. It was great.

I thought it had his funny moments. It had its ridiculous moments. For sure. I mean, the whole series is ridiculous. I don't want, I don't want to say too much because some people didn't see it yet. The six episodes really cool, how they did the investigative, the short docu series.

Then they kind of like they kind of teased with the first 48 with the detective from Memphis. I forget her name. But they kind of like tease her in there a little bit too. Well, it was great. Let me ask you all this. We know Stans have watched this. How do you think in their lens the show is? Oh, they hate it.

They hate it. Do you feel like they have a mirror and? They're trying to deny it in their head like, I'm not this crazy. It's cool because they addressed those people directly in the six episode that I'm referring to. The woman who's doing like this invest, she's a private, like, independent detective. And she's having a doc crew follow her as she's trying to crack this case in real time. Can you pull up the lady from First 48 Memphis, a police department? She's notorious.

They wanted when young Dolph was killed, they was asking that she jumped on the case, being that she is in Memphis. Yeah, she figures those out in the first six hours. And she was crazy. She interviews other people of the hive of this swarm. Carolyn Mason, Caroline Mason, Detective Caroline Mason. That's her name. There's one fan in particular, the black guy that they got, the gay black guy. And he's supposed to represent all the real life, like, Beyonce fans.

And she's like, do you, like, would you kill? The question is like, would you kill for it? And he's like, no. And then you could just like kind of see on his face. He's like ruminating and thinking about it. He's like, holy shit. Like this is the moment where they're talking directly to the audience. Yeah.

No, this was great. I mean, we've definitely talked about why there isn't more content on finding whether it be trolls, whether it be obsessed fans, whether it be people that just live under comments and like really having a therapist or someone interview them to get down to the bottom of this. So I know a large community of that world. Watch this. And I just want to know if. they really took it in like, oh, this is me.

This is how I'm viewed. Yeah. And of course, I'm not murdering people, even though some may be. But this is how we kind of look at y'all. Like, one day you could snap. Yeah. You can go a little too far and a little too obsessed with the artist that you love and that you know, follow.

But also, let's be fucking for real. Like, they censored this like it was Beyonce's fan because Beyonce has the most popular hive. They focus on behind the entire show. We know who's fan base this really is. This is Nikki's fucking fan base. For sure. This is Nicky's.

That's deflecting. That's not deflecting. That's what the Beehive does. Yeah. They're the crazy ones. So you think this is the barbs? For sure. It's like when Hillary goes, what about Donald?

Like, no, both of y'all are fucking nuts. I think a barb is snapping and going crazy before Beyonce fan for sure. I think both groups, and this may be a political answer, both groups have their fair majority. of people that are like that on that show. This is why this is genius because this can be literally any fan-based. It can.

That's an obsessive culture type of thing. This can be the barbs. This can be the beehive. The Navy. This can be the Navy. Maybe it's chill. Maybe do be mine in their business. Maybe be mine in their business.

I'm just saying, but that's because Rihanna be minding her business. She don't put out music like that. So Beyonce minds her business too. Yeah, but Beyonce's more active in the music space. She's performing more than Rihanna. She's like seen more than Rihanna. Man, the fans take after

they're a leader. Okay. And I'm telling you the barbs are fucking nuts. I have not finished the series yet. What's the name of the artist again? Naja? Naja, yes. Does Naja later on in the show

act more like Beyonce or Nikki? Because I thought it was Bihive because it seemed like Naja just made music and was just... So yeah, I don't think... It's Renaissance Beyonce. Yeah. That's the vibe I was getting

the first few episodes. Now if she starts getting on Twitter and saying, hey, attack, then I'd be like, maybe this is about Nicky's. No, no, for sure. they focused it on Beyonce. I'm just saying if you're talking about killer fans, I think y'all should look at the barbs more than the beehive.

That's all I'm saying. Yeah, I'm all relax. He's both, though. But they kill the- The bigger barb to beehive for sure. Yeah, you're a big barb. No, I think you're a good, you're like the Dennis Robbin diplomat of like both both crews.

That's because I get my nails done. That's why you went to Dennis Robin? Yeah, and like you, you fuck with North Korea and the United States. The same way, you know, Barb, B,ehives. You're a member of both. Both sides respect you. Absolutely. I love Beyonce.

like prop Joe. I'm not like Prop Joe. I love Nikki, love Beyonce, but I do love the fact that this show literally can be about any one of those cultural fan bases type of thing.

They killed Edens Queen. Who was my queen? Selena. Sure. She had some of the early dance. That was a fan moment. I guess. But why I got to be Eddins Queen?

I mean, we know why. He wasn't even born yet. He wasn't even born. He doesn't even remember with Selena. DeMeres, did you identify with any of the episodes? She didn't see.

I have not seen it yet. I've seen clips, but I have not had the chance to sit down and watch. She was too busy and nice guy. Being a nice girl. Being a very nice girl.

I mean, again, I only saw the first few episodes. I'm with some of the murders she's done so far. We know. Of course. But not like on the stance of stand culture.

Like, if you feel like marking the tow truck guy and becoming a stripper for it, I mean, that's dedication. No, but it literally was because she was reading tweets online. I'm aware.

Just in like her favorite artist. And like, okay, I'm going to come find you. No, but he also, just, uh, Chloe. Hmm. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So I'm at the point in the series where I'm like, all right, is she really a stand?

Or is she defending her sister? Or if they say nothing about her sister, they're still going to kill? Mm-hmm. I'm still in that, that mode. Yeah. But what I understand is just because she's a stamp. Well, y'all definitely got to watch it. It was a good watch.

I enjoyed it. I didn't think I would enjoy it as much as I did. was funny. It was like crazy. But I just, I love the fact that Dominique Fishback, she just did a great job. And she's definitely becoming one of my favorite actresses. This is why I think bigger artists should do meet and greets. Before you send your hive, your crew, your squad out to attack people online, you should meet them and see how unstable they are. The artist? Yes. I feel like if they went city to city and at least did 10 meet and greets of the biggest fans, they would go, some of these people are a little off.

Maybe I shouldn't send them to go harass people. Yeah, but that's, I mean, but when you're as big as these artists are, like you're going to have people obviously that love your music and your art that are a little off. That's because so many people love you. But I mean, that's not on, the onus is not on the artist. You people should go get help. Like, just because I make great music that you love.

Oh, no, I agree. You have a real mental issue, that doesn't fall on me. But when you intentionally send your mentally, unstable squad out to the world to go harass people. Oh, so you're talking about Nikki. And what? No. And these people are finding people's addresses and like sent like putting up photos of

Reese Witherspoon's house because she maybe made a bad comment. Yeah, maybe you shouldn't send your squad out. Did Nikki do that? I don't know. They made it about Nikki. I'm not making about it. And I also think that you should probably speak about a lot of things. Because if we're going into one of the biggest.

What do they call her fan base? The lotteries? The money bag. Okay. Something. It's something like that. Scratching sniffs. I'm telling the scratch and sniffs.

Snips. The scratch and sniffs for sure. The scratch and sniffs is crazy. Which I also want to get into the Lola Brook remix too. We can revisit that with Lotto. But one of the craziest fan moments from the Beehive was when that whole Becky with the good hair line came out and people were talking about Rachel Roy and so many of the fans for some reason must stick Rachel Roy with.

Rachel Ray and Rachel Ray was getting fucking correct she caught the thunder yo I'm trying to just sell some pots I got a new I got a new home goods and I'm trying to I'm trying to create I just created a new nonstick like what's going on I've never even met jacy yeah Rachel ray I've never even met jzy y'all didn't see that I felt so bad for racial ray I definitely definitely that's but Beyonce ain't say shit yo like she didn't say nothing that's but all right but to me, that's not Beyonce's fault. She didn't send her fan base out to go attack. It's not her fault, but she should. I'm talking about when artists specifically know what they're doing when they're sending their crew out, I think should either watch Swarm or maybe do more meet and greet so they

know the mental capacity of their crew. Well, speaking of unstable mental capacity, a man tried to break into Rihanna's home. When she wasn't there and proposed to her. Look how crazy he is. She's not even home. You do all of that stalking, all of that file. and all of that, this whole crazy shit because you mentally don't have it all. And you didn't even know she wasn't there. Well, I'm letting you know this mall. Sometimes when she is there, it doesn't work out either.

Well, no. We know, that would have been worse if she was there. He probably would have got killed. Rory. Oh, all right. Never mind. Well, luckily the cops showed up pretty swiftly and cuffed them. And, yeah.

Look at what, I mean. That's the fifth for the proposal. Yeah, the Nike hoodie. I mean, granted, I was in a purple suit. Like, I looked like the Joker. so I really have no grounds to stand on at all. So I shouldn't be the one to do this. But come on.

That's like the foot locker Nike. Yeah, that's the one. That's not a tech. You got that a champs. Yeah, that's not a Nike tech. That's the one you get, that's the one that's the one that's on the mannequin when you walk. Exactly.

You don't want that one. Oh, and it looks like in 2018, another man was arrested for breaking inside, actually getting inside of her home. Geez. Why is her home so easily accessible? He was in a home for at least a day. She was also out of town in this incident. This time, they don't know.

know if her or Rocky were home. They said they don't know if they were home. They don't know. Yeah, they don't know if her or rocky were home. It has not been reported whether they were home or not. Security just stopped him before he was able to get in. Oh, okay. So he didn't really break in. All right. He was just like outside. I mean, I'm sure she has an estate so he didn't get in the building, but he got on the estate grounds. Yeah, he was trying to hop some walls and jump over some bushes and shit

like that. The gentleman in 2018. He's just doing parkour. Yeah. Look at that hoodie. He was working up. The gentleman in 2018 called the cops. He was there for sex. cool well i mean he was honest he was there to have sex with the singer that's what it's insane it's some sick people and this is the swarm culture there we go that i think we should uh take note of a little bit more putting a bullet of somebody over riana for sure what is are you wrong with you bro see why this is who donald is speaking to why she has security for that you don't have to do that you really don't if at any point security wasn't there like no security's all right so at what point would security not be there? What point would security not be there?

but you would be at the post. Why are you there? Why would you be there? Oh, whoa, whoa, buddy. Are you on the list? I talk about this on Twitter a lot. Are there any celebrities that you got, that can do no wrong in you guys' eyes

that you guys are like super overprotective of? Like, for example, like, I would beat a bitch up over Zendaya. Zendaya, Issa, Angela Bassett can do no wrong in my eyes. But they can. They're human. Yeah.

People make mistakes. You know what I mean. What I'm saying is like, I go hard for them. Like, if we in the street. Who is Zendaya? Zendaya, Angela Bassa, and Issa Rae. You've known Zendaya for like a year.

That's not true. She doesn't know Zendaya at all. Yeah. I never even met her. This is so. You wouldn't be banging for her when she was doing those Disney shows. You weren't this animated. I was banging for her when she was doing music.

You only liked it when she became a heroin. What was the show on on Netflix with her and her and, uh, I keep forgetting this. I don't want to call him Denzel, son. Oh, the movie. John, John, David watched it. Malcolm and Marie is one of my favorite Netflix movies. I think it was so beautiful shot. Show me how I'll go with this right now.

When the last time you watched it? I literally a month ago. And who was right in the argument? I think that they were both very wrong, but I think that he was more toxic than she was. She made that man mac and cheese on stove top. He asked for more. That shit was terrible.

I mean, that's how, he should have got an Oscar for eating that shit. Because I know he hated that. They should have gave John David the motherfucking Oscar right there because that was the nastiest part of mac and cheese I've ever seen. What could someone say about Zendaya that would get you like to some fist of cuffs.

I don't know. It's not more like what they can. You can say whatever. I'm talking about like if we was out in the streets since the day it was at a party and like a paparazzi like pushed her too hard or something like I'm going off. What are you going to do about that?

I feel like she might have security. Yeah. I just like when the Pats is around her, I just feel like she might. I'm jumping in. I'm jumping in. She would not be at that event with no security. That one nigga was beating 6-9 up

and his homie still helped. Like I'm jumping in. Who was beating up 6'9 in his home? Who? Oh, they jumped 6'9. Oh, yeah. Well, I mean, that's different. Wait, his homies was there? No, they said his homies.

They was on the elliptical? I'm saying it was one. Where were his friends? He was getting last superset in. I got two more sets. Yeah, I got two more sets. I'm going to meet you in the parking lot. I'll see you with the hospital.

Yo, imagine I get jumped in the bathroom at L.A. fitness. And my homie come on. After I get jumped, I'm on the floor of bleed. And you were like, yo, that set was crazy. That set was crazy. Where was you at when them niggas was playing hopscotch on my back? I would have said truthfully. did deadlifts. I wouldn't have been much help.

Yo, I think about that a lot when I'm in the gym. Like, after I do a crazy set, I'm like, I'm so vulnerable right now. You could knock me out so fucking easily. And I would have, I would have nothing to give. Yeah. That's why I was fucked up to catch, catch homie in the L.A. Fitness. I'm so respectful in the gym.

Just in case. Y'all catch me. And you know it was leg day. Because he had them little shorts on. You know what's leg day when you got them little shorts on? You want to see every striation, every motherfucking fiber in your leg when you're working out. There's a funny-ass video with him on a, with a Montclair on doing the Stepmaster. Like, before. So it was like that.

Oh, well, all right. Well, then take snitching out. You deserve to get knocked the fuck out if you got a Montclair while you're doing the stairmaster. Knock him out. It's leg day, man. Well, man, you know he was trying to sweat out the calories. Put on the regular trash bag that everyone else used. Don't put on a Monclare.

Put on the, I'd wear a Montclair for the trash bag. You know what I'm talking, though. They're not really trash bags. A little sweatshirt. Yeah. A little sweatshirt, yeah. Um, Moe and I were talking when this happened. Do we think this is fake?

I know we're late to the party here, but we didn't record last week. But I'm glad we didn't speak about until other videos came out in different angles. At first, I thought it was fake. I was like, oh, here you go again. And that's the bad thing about being a troll is that people don't take you seriously. Got to chase the viral moments. Right. So when I first heard about that, I said, okay, he's finding a way to get back in the algorithms.

He's finding a way to get back, you know, doing interviews or whoever's going to sit down and talk with him. but after seeing these videos in different angles, let me just say this. They shattered his rib cage? If he did, if he did set this up and lean into it the way he did, then this dude might need to get into active. Well,

you don't think six and I would take a real ass beaten. That's what I'm saying. Because I'm saying it could still be fake and he took a real ass with me. Not to this extent. Like he got put in the hospital. He showed Jesse how to do it. I was like,

the sandwich is a way more of a committed after. Yeah. No new, no sandwich. Yeah. Like, Jesse was the actor. Cameras worked. And it was like, you know, but Jesse wasn't.

He admitted it was black guys. Jesse wasn't going to get putting down into a coma for his viral moment. Yeah. Nah, Six-nine got up. Yeah, he got up, but he fell back down too. My favorite part of the entire thing was not this actual video. It was when dude was like, nah, but I just let you know. Like, I'm a fan.

I'm a fan. Yeah. But you guys beat me up. Yeah. And the dude, he was like, no, but it wasn't me. Like, I was just record. It was this video. Look at the fucking cold.

Yeah. Yeah, he got his... It's a sick fit. But, you know, it's fucked up. It's a lot of thigh for how you're covering the torso. Now, I don't know why these gentlemen in particular were beating him up. Maybe it's a personal thing and they know him in real life. I don't know.

Probably not. But, um... Yeah, I doubt it. It's a... I only feel like it's fucked up that they beat him up because it's like... He ain't no tough guy, man. He's been talking so much... No, for sure.

But why not just embarrass him? Like, why not make him strip in LA Fitness and walk out of it? Because he was already half naked. Yeah. Yeah. So take all that. But that's what I'm saying. Somebody like that,

yo, strip and walk out of this LA fitness butt naked. That's how you, to me, if you're a troll, that's what you do. You embarrassed them and that type. You jumped him, but it's like, okay, I get it. You know, people have their feelings about this dude. So when they's like, when we see him, we're going to fuck him up, I get it. But why not just embarrass him? I saw a lot of people saying these guys were after a viral moment, too,

and I don't see the problem in that. That's all. That's what he's been trying to do. So why can't anyone else then use the bar moment? They were supposed to strip Takashi and make him run out. of that LA Fitness with one ankle sock on. That would be nuts. Yeah.

Just one sock? One sock. Where's the other sock? In the bathroom. Put them in a bathroom. Yeah, it's in the bathroom. Why not? To me, that's how you get back at these trolls.

Like, you've got to embarrass them in a way. Like, you know, you beat up guys that's like. This is embarrassing. Yeah, but it's a different type of embarrassing. His daughter said she's embarrassed. Oh, that poor kid. Anybody could get jumped. Where's the statement from his infant daughter?

Oh, wait. She's like five? Oh, all right. Still. Yeah, she can be. Where's the statement? At five, she can be embarrassed. But yeah, they were supposed to...

That's when she... That's where she drew the line. Yeah, his baby mama... His baby mama said his daughter is embarrassed by the incident. It's weird that now that's when she's... That's where they draw the line. I mean, either way it's fucked up. I mean, you know...

No, it's not. I don't... Why is it fucked up? No, I'm saying. I'm saying it's fucked up because he had a grapefruit on his forehead. Like, they really, like, woke his ass. Cool. No, listen, he had it coming.

He had it coming to him. But I just think that, you know, these troves... He's caught lacking. You got to make these trolls. You got to embarrass them. Like, strip. I think it's great. No one was killed.

There was no guns. He got his ass. Great. Yeah. Amazing. I know I support violence. This type of violence for someone that has been provoking and asking for it. I think it's fun.

I don't want to see this kid die. Yeah, bring back beating people up and not killing them. That's what I mean. I hope these gentlemen don't go to jail. And I think it's going to be hilarious when Scotchie goes back on his press run. I think he's purposely being quiet. He's already on the press run. And he's going to start with, yo, I stood tall.

no one went to jail. Ten toes. You know he said he's going to yell to down. He can't say he stood tall. Yes, he did. You were on your back like a turtle. Okay. You didn't stand anywhere.

But once he got up. Got stood on. Yeah, man. Stood tall. Yeah. He didn't press no charges. I mean, he had this coming to him. He stuck to the code of LA Fitness.

It was only a matter of time before, I guess people that wanted to put hands on them, and obviously they caught up to him. I hope it happens. It's what it is. You said you hope it happened. happens again. Yeah, fuck him. I mean, listen, I, I feel you. It is what it is. And you know is I've got Dale. What's that guy named Dale? Dale, Dale, from Detroit. Yeah, man, he put out a video showing what Takashi. He should have did and how he should have handled himself in that situation.

It should have went like this. Yeah, no, no, that. The video of him running around went, when he said, you get a jump, this is what you do. He looked like the line leader. Dale, I'm, now listen, Dale, you know we love you. Like, a lot of that shit. And we think your shit is real. A lot of that shit hurts for real. A lot of that shit hurts for real. But this will get your head cracked, you can't just run around a bunch of dudes that's willing to jump because nobody's, they weren't even swinging.

Look, they're not even swinging. It's ringing around the Rosie. On a mat. Yeah. Dale, that shit going to get somebody knocked the fuck out, man. Takashi would have ran into a urinal if he tried that. Yeah, like, come on.

He would have got his head split wide open doing some dumb shit like this. Like, this is not how people jump. When people jumping you, they're not just pushing and moving their man out the way to say, no, let me hit him. This just looks like he's trying to call time out. No, chill, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, chill, chill, chill, chill, chill, chill, chill, chill, chill, do over, do over.

That's hilarious. But good for Takashi. This gives him another reason to do a press run. True. Like, this is keeping him alive. That's why I think there is probably some fakeness to this entire thing. Yeah, I could see him taking a full asswhip in for real. I thought it was staged at first, but if it is, I think he's a great actor.

Would you guys talk to him? No, I think he just, I think he just agreed to get his ass whoop. Yeah, like he doing this, I thought Jackie Chan was a great stunt guy. this dude went to the hospital for real. Yeah. Coma and everything. And you know he's good at the internet. He had a get on there and be like, yo, but 21 Savage didn't do it.

Like he's going to try to manipulate how we view this. Would you guys talk to him? No. Ooh. The guy who beat them up. Yeah, I told to those gentlemen. Yeah. Outstanding gentlemen.

Yeah, I told them those great citizens of LA Fitness. Let them wear their boots on Rory's carpet. Yeah, absolutely. I'm not talking today. But they're on the lamb now. They can hide in my house. Yeah, absolutely. Nobody looking for them over here.

Wait, I didn't agree to it. That was a question. Hey, Jonathan Majes, what you doing, man? Oh, wow. Bad transition. I'm just saying, I'm going to know. That was actually. I'm just saying, Tasha.

No, I see, but I'm just saying. I'm just asking. I just want to know what Jonathan out there doing. I just want to know what he doing. I don't know. Listen, Creed 3 is over there. Y'all cut. You out here, choke him off.

He's a method actor. Oh, okay. Hey, wait. Wait, no. I'm just saying that he was accused of a, of assault, correct? He was arrested for domestic violence. Oh yeah, come on, John.

What are you doing? What is he doing? Choking his girlfriend from what I understand. Yeah, like you, John, listen, man, they just let your blacker and you're a nigger. He got big nose, big lips, you're a nigger. They just let your nigger ass into Hollywood. And then you out here choking white women? Oh, nigger, you're trying to be throwing into the

motherfucking kingdom of never being heard from again. Rory, do you feel the same way? That's a nigger. Jonathan Majis is 100% nigger. That knows those lips Like I'm a nigger I can say it He's a nigger

I know a nigga Roy do you agree I just feel like Did he say What you were gonna say? Was 6-9 justified When he got on the stand? I'm just saying

Like if you think about What he went through With the gang You think he was justified Listen Jonathan Yo would you rat Yeah Jonathan listen man

I'm rude for you man I think that You know You got some good movies Under your belt Big movies Big budgets They just let you in the Hollywood

You know The harder they fall I love that. You know what I mean? I loved you in the Marvel movie. Love that. Creed 3 was dope. All right now.

You're out here choking white women. Nigger, you be doing motherfucking stand-up plays on, not even on Broadway. They said his Disney career was over. Yeah. He's going to be in the next episode of BMF. That shit. He's going to be on Tubeby.

This nigga is on Tubby. This nigga had it to Tulare. I know when the nigga want to go to Tube. I can see it like that. Yeah, nigga, you're in Marvel movies. The main character. at least free for him. And you out here choking white women?

And you ain't like, he ain't like a, you know, like Michael B. Jordan is like he's nigga, but he ain't, he ain't like the, he's definitely acceptable. He's a house nigga. He's an acceptable nigger. Whoa. John the Majors is. Why are we doing this to Michael Jordan? John McAs don't even brush his head, nigga.

Like he's that type of nigga where he don't care. He embraces. He embracing the natural look. You know what I mean? He ain't getting no nose job. He ain't getting no veneers. He ain't brushing his hair. He's not using oils.

Roy, would you suggest that. Yeah. What do you think about that? You think you should do those things? I just feel like I get the other guys, but Shottie was so loyal to six and I. Shottie still told, dude. Like, yeah. Shout to Shottie.

He was always around. Love Shottie. Love Shottie. Love Shottie. Like, why did he have to do that? Major's nigger. This nigga here, man. This nigga.

I could believe what I said. I said, no. I said, ah, you're lying on Jonathan. Johnny? Y'all lying on him. He ain't choking a white woman. There's no way he choked a white woman. Why didn't he get killed for dating white women the way Michael B

did. Because, well, Michael B is, Michael B is like, you know, well, Michael B is Julian B is what you meant to say?

Yeah, Julian B. That is, that's how I laugh. I'm sorry. What the fuck? Hey, I got two good eyes, all right? Yo, but Julian, that is a great question, though.

Yeah. But I don't think, that's funny. I don't think that people knew that Jonathan Major's girlfriend was white though. I don't think they knew that. That's the difference.

He was hiding her like Anne Frank? Yeah, I don't think people knew. My God. I don't think people knew that Jonathan May just had a white girlfriend. I had seen it on Twitter before, but. Jonathan, we love you. You look like you on your way to being a really, really big actor.

But you keep choking these white women, nigger. You're going to be on two be tomorrow, nigga. I'm telling you now. We're free people. They don't give a fuck. Your ass will be out of here. So hopefully, you know, this is just, you know, we don't know. We don't have enough information on this story yet.

The witness recanted her statement. The witness, the witness according to Jonathan's lawyers, the witness has recanted her allegations in her statement of him assaulting her. So, you know, hopefully this is something that was just, you know, an argument or something like that that just went, you know, whatever. But, niggia, Tooby is in your future. Or crackle. I'm letting you know now, nigga, you keep choking these white women, nigga, because you ain't,

they'll forget about your. They'll throw that whole Marvel series in the garbage. I'm telling you that. They'll put you on the reboot of the game. Oh, my God. They'll put you being belly four, nigga. I'm telling you now. All right.

No, because we got to say it before it happened Because a lot of time we got to, we like to be reactive. We need to be more proactive. You know what I'm saying, Julian? Like, we need to start talking about shit before it happens. Yeah, Julian. Like, nigga, what is this, John?

What is he doing? Like, you ain't, you nigger. You can't get away from the fact that you a nigga. Like, that's a, those is nigger. Like, you know what I mean, he got the whole nigger kid. He's a nigger for real. That the nigger started back. He got the same way.

He's a nigger. He knows, lips, ears, everything. you're a nigga. The only thing I didn't understand was why 6-9 brought up Cardi B when he was on the stand because she had nothing to do with the case. Oh my gosh. It was just weird that he said she was a gangover. I'm trying to understand exactly how much that nigga had to drink.

Well, he thought that, yo, I'm that big in Hollywood where I can start choking these white women. Nigger, no, you cannot. Gerard Carmichael's got a great joke about how much money. Do you think he choke a white man? To choke white, well, at the time he was straight. At the time, he was straight. Oh, Gerard? Yeah.

So he said like, he was like, I feel like I'm at the point of my career now where I could open palm slap a white woman. And he goes, you know, I could be out by, say, Tuesday. He goes, I can't afford the closed fist yet. A white woman? Yeah. Because he's gay. He thinks that he can get on that.

Well, this is before. Girard thought he could. Gerard, you would have been sad. He says it much better, but that's the, the gist of the joke is how much money do you need to afford to hit a white woman? A lot. And probably more than, probably more than that. Man, Denzel can't even hit a white woman.

Y'all tripping. Which white woman? Yeah, which one? All right. Wait. You know what? If he clocked Laura Ingraham, which one is a laugh. Like, if he clocked Laura Ingraham, we would be like, all right.

Yeah. Give him an Oscar. Give him an Oscar. It's crazy. Anyways. You remember when Denzel and X had that white lady sucking his toes? Oh. Sorry what?

Kissing his feet. Y'all remember that? When he was a pimp, when he was Detroit right? Oh, yeah, in the beginning? Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I knew he was going to get an Oscar just over that. I said, well, that nigga on the big screen with a white woman.

It's right. He made it. This nigga's crazy. Jonathan, your ass will be in the reboot of fucking he got, what? Stomp the yard. It'll be stomped the yard. Stomp the garden. You're being stomped the garden.

You choke another white woman out here, Nick. I'm telling you. Stomp the yard alumni edition. Oh, my, nigga, you're going to, I'm telling you, y'all think I'm joking. They can't wait to get that nigga out of. What? Out of Hollywood? You just got in.

He just got in. Creed 3 was the biggest selling opening movie of the year. The last however minute, whatever. Great, great numbers, man. Are you out here celebrating by choking white women? You didn't lost your mind. I just wish Mel Matrix knew that the phone was tapped. Listen, man, we're going to finish this conversation on Patreon.

Let's get into it. Yeah, man, because we got to talk about these niggas losing their mind out here, man. I'm going to start being. This must be one of those patrons minority. Yeah. No. No, we want you to speak for the white women. Yeah.

No, we want, Rory, go to your room. No, we want you to speak for the white women. No, we want you to speak for the white women. There you go. Yeah, let Rory speak for all the white women out here and how they feel and how you feel about black men choking your white queens. I think it's just so funny that Rory. I have to go see him.

Yeah, you got, actually, you should go see Jonathan. You should sit down with Jonathan and say, hey, man, you know, what's wrong? At L.A. fitness. Yeah, go talk to Jonathan because he has. LA scenes. It's a good time to wrap up. Yeah, let's go to Patreon.

Are we going to Patreon? We're going to Patreon. We're going to Patreon. I would love to go to Patreon. I would just love for you to wrap this up. Tony, Tony, Tony, they announced a tour. Can't wait. I don't know how many of y'all saw that.

I did. I was excited about that. I was like, Tony, Tony, Tony, Tony. Y'all might be too young to really know about Tony, Tony, Tony, but that was exciting for me. I like to see groups like that going tour. It was somebody else that announced a tour, and I can't remember right now. either way.

We'll finish this conversation on Patreon. Any plans for the rest of the week, Rory? What do you get into? I'm chilling. I just want to end this conversation so badly. What conversation? We're ending the episode. I'll bless it with you.

All right. Well, we'll talk to y'all soon. Everybody is scared now because I said niggas 72 times. But that niggas going crazy. We'll talk to you out soon. You have a safe week. He's touching his toes. Be blessed.

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