New Rory & MAL - Episode 155 | Why Lil Wayne Is Overrated

Episode Date: March 31, 2023

Happy Friday! Do you have a Jazz crew? Julian went to the Blue Note, which led to more jokes from everyone. We stay on music and discuss DJ Drama’s album release. Then Mal shares how he saw Lil Nas X gliding at the airport. Unfortunately, but to no surprise, there has been another mass shooting (129th of the year). The team offers their opinions on this ongoing issue. We transition back to the funnies with Rory’s wild April Fool’s story. Rory continues to share the moment he knew it was time to stop playing basketball. We have a Jonathan Majors update (hint: those texts didn’t help) We end today’s episode with an interesting music conversation that involves LL Cool J, Lil Wayne, Rick Ross, and Fab. Tune in as the guys discuss all the above + more! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoicesSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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I have my Yankees fans crew that I know I'll take to the game. Who are the jazz guys? I would love to be here. Sammy Davis and the fucking... Who would you win? The Rat Pack? Louis Armstrong. Yeah, that's the Rat Pack.

Who are you with? The Jazz guys. I don't have any friends that I can go back. Hey, it's Jazz Night. We're going out. The name of the group chats, Harlem Knights. Ew. No, Warren, my.

Thumb it through a whole other bag. It's not the old one. Run up on this Roy. I'm clicking until it's over. to put a snow on a mission to Minnesota. Come on, you know the dream. Welcome, welcome, welcome. Hey, to a new episode of the new Rory Moll podcast.

I am all. I'm Rory. And Rory, we are back, man. Did you welcome back, Mace, when that song came out? Oh, that was a fire song. Oh, man, I was Harlem shaking all up and down Lexington. You guys forgave him when he ran to Atlanta? I did.

Welcome back. That's Beth. That's Beth. Okay. We got to forgive Beth. That was a good tune. That was a good comeback. Great record.

today that I think that record would be bigger I think that fits more of like I think that would go crazy on TikTok today I think that would go crazy on like Mace at that age now or like Mace now No no no Mace at that age now Okay that record yeah now I'm with you I can see that being a TikTok record

Oh God that would be a crazy TikTok record Oh yeah the DJs would fucking go nuts with the remix Sorry Coy Lurray Mace is back Yeah I think about that a lot like certain records that came out I'm like damn if that was now I mean the entire South movement with the snaps and dances and shit

Oh, Soldier Boy would be because what he did with Pringtones Imagine what Soldier Boy would do with TikToks And we're gonna get into that Because I saw that trend on Twitter And y'all are bugging for taking those food stamps Wait a question, so what would be other songs That you guys feel like would be hits now

Laffy Taffy would go nuts on TikTok Oh yeah Like absolutely nuts The whole snap era Also these were hits at the time No but I'm just saying I think now with social media And the presence of like TikTok

And things like that It would be bigger the artists would definitely make more money. Oh, yeah, for sure. Bigger records. Come on, chicken noodle soup, if it came out during the TikTok era, it would be performed at middle schools, like, across the country. Actually, why isn't Webstar, like, snatching up a bunch of young artists

and just making records right now? Like, he should be doing that. Just for the sake of TikTok. I get you. He's a little old, though, right? To produce? Oh. Just to produce a record?

I'm not saying he has to be an artist. What's the consensual age of signing artists? He's too old. Like, he's younger than, like, to produce. Like some of the hottest rappers right now. So there's no such thing that's too old. But yeah, like guys like that, like Webstar and a lot of the snap era guys. Who?

Ron Brows. Browse. Like a lot of those guys right now, I would strictly just be making music strictly for TikTok. Or just have people do those same exact dances. It'll be brand new to the kids. They won't know that shoot is from 05. Yeah, everything comes back full circle. You know that.

Yeah. Just pitch it a little bit and have Coiler Ray do it. And you're good to go. I'm gonna resell Lafey Taffy, repackaged. They came out, they did an interview with Michael Jordan. They asked on what was his favorite sneaker, his line of Jordan's, what was his favorite sneaker all time. And it was the one that I said, the Concord 11th.

Greatest sneaker ever. I just thought I put that out there. Like Mike, that's his favorite sneak ever. Jordan's not really the fashion icon that I look to. Big ass. No, no, no. What's his favorite denim? I'm just talking about sneaky.

Nasty. Mike, he has his favorite button up. He'd be having on the nastiest of denim. But no, he stamped it, the Concord 11. His personal favorite sneaker of all time. That's the greatest basketball sneaker ever. That's also why he's the best player of all time. Why?

Because of Concord or Lever? Just because. I mean, we don't got to get to that. They know what it is. In terms of loving white women, Michael Jordan or... No, my God, forget it. Yeah. I think Michael Jordan's wife is Latin.

Hey. Well, I'm talking about the women he really loves. Yeah. Don't do that. See, because now you're about the going so totally dead. Don't do that. So about Larson's sis or like his new wife? Larson's.

Sis. That's great. So yeah, we're back with a new episode to talk to the culture. Hi, culture. Lars is in-law. No, yeah. Come of mind. Forget it.

So what's going on? We haven't seen each other a couple of days. I saw Julian, you were out at the Blue Note. Trying to be eclectic. Yeah. Julian, we got to, you, you, you, you know, like your bag away from work is like really interesting. Like, you at the Blue Note. Like, what are you doing?

How is that? All of you should have gone. I mean, just, let's just talk about Julie. Can we talk about Julie for a second? You just, you go to all of these dive bars in Manhattan, and then you go to, like, Bloodlow House. Yeah. And then you're at the blue note.

And then you can also go to the little baby show. Yeah. Get you someone who can do both. And then you drop the, then you drop the picture in the group text with a whole charcutory board like set up. Oh, I missed that one. Oh, no. Him and dinner had, oh, my God.

Like, no, you should have, you should have tried the Natty. The Natty is such an amazing bottle to go with the cheese. Wait, like natural ice beer? I'm like, no, what are you? I'm talking about. 24 ounce? How was the, first of all,

shout out to Terris Martin and Aaron Ray. They were at the Blue Note. The last show, Aaron's last show there is tonight. Wait, you had cheese and wine with Benner at the Terrace Martin show?

No, no, no, no, no, no, no. That was at home. That was just a Tuesday. That's a Tuesday. Nice. All right. I see what you was trying to do.

The Perchetto. Okay, the Prachetto, pretzel crisp bites. You invited to chip back. It was like, oh, didn't realize I left all this out. The pistachios and the lightly salted blue diamond.

You don't never, see, this is the thing, bro. You don't never have the pistachios and the almonds. Julian is a man of the people. He has pistachial almonds. He has the candied pecans. Don't discriminate. He has strawberries. He has four different cheeses up there.

I just want to know, what did the bathroom smell like? Oh, come on. Let's get to that. We know what it looked like on the table, but what did it smell like coming out? And what her butt smelled like after? Yeah, what her butt smelled like after? And did you indeed eat it with the strawberry? We're not on Patreon.

Are we? Oh, I'm so sorry. So sorry. I forgot what you were. So sorry. Definitely a prosciutto out of hats. How was the Terrace Martin and Aaron Ray showcase? It was amazing.

I was hoping any of you guys would go, but no one was going. So I went. I brought a couple friends, guys that I, you know, jazz guys. So I was just a guy's night. It's cool. It's three of us. You have like a group of friends that's just the jazz guy? Well, they're like, I have the friends that would be like,

I know they're Yankees fans. I have my Yankees fans crew that I know I'll take to the game. Who are the jazz guys? I would love to be here. Sammy Davis and the fucking who would you win? The Rat Pack. Louis Armstrong. Who are you win?

The Jazz guys. I don't have any friends that I can go by like, hey, it's Jazz Night, fellas. We're going out. The name of the group chats, Harlem Knights. And they've never been to Harlem. No, they're all went to Tulane. So they're all just jazz. I got it.

The Tulane Jazz goes like jazz. I get it. And a residency at LaGuardia High School. I know. It was a good night. It was a great night. Were they snobby about it? No, no.

They were big fans of Terrace and Aaron. They saw them both there like five years ago or so. It was the last time they saw them there. So they were due up. They saw, we went to a show there a couple weeks ago, but this one's obviously more exciting for all of us. It was a good time. I'm going to try to catch the show,

because the last show, Ann Ray, is tonight, right? Yep. I might try to catch that. I'm going to try to catch that set. I am too, but like, we should bring some other people. I don't know if, like, you're not my jazz guy. Yeah. I think it should, I'll go with you, but we should have, like, we can go, we can go like.

We should at least have two women there as well. Yeah, like, you can go first, like, sit at different tables. Yeah, sit at different tables. You go first. I'll go inside second and exactly, we don't know each other once we get inside. If Molly isn't your jazz guy, what is he? I's my business partner and co-host. Oh, that's boring.

And French. You need him to save it. Oh, look at that. Friends first. Friends first. I just feel like I can't go watch a Crip play jazz music with you. That's all. Like, just the two of us. I feel like that makes perfect sense. Like, us going to watch Crip play jazz, I think that makes perfect sense.

That's lit. It's on brand. Yeah, like, that makes sense for us. I think we could be there. Did any of your purest jazz friends like mutter under their breath? Like, I wish he'd stay in his lane. Wow. Like, go back to the hippie hop.

No. Definitely, no, I don't have that. Wait, DeMaris is about to give me a compliment. No, I was just saying I would find a group of men out. at a jazz event, very attractive. I call that cat. No, I call that something else. That's not hip-hop.

They wouldn't be interested in DeMaris. Wouldn't even notice DeMaris in the room. They'd be like, excuse me, the tenor is playing. What type of guy, if you had two tickets to the blue note for tonight? Do you have a guy in mind? Obviously don't say his name, but like running through your rolodex, is there a certain guy you can and cannot bring to the blue note or girl? Like, do you have a guy?

that would appreciate jazz night. Just to get like weekends off. They let him out on the weekends. Yeah, he's on work release. So he's only three months. Anyway. Well, Thomas' his monitor to go off. He has to be back in the house at midnight.

He used to listen to jazz records in the law library. Sounds like a great movie. Shawshank Redemption. You don't remember? Brooks, Brooks opened the library. I'm sorry, DeMaris. They got a record player from... I didn't mean to cut you off.

I'm sorry. They made a Willie Mimmy. The amount of people in Shawshank Redemption that were murdering in Maine is never not going to be funny to me. Don't do that because that's a great movie. One of my favorites ever. Classic movie. I keep telling you, you mind me a Teddy Dufrein a little bit. Damn.

Andy Dufran. Andy Dufran. I'm sorry. I was watching Snowfall last time. I've been very vocal in saying that I think Andy Dufram was 100% guilty. And one of the biggest sociopaths on Earth. He was not. He was not guilty.

But anyways, why were people murdering that many people in Maine? What else did it do in Maine? That's true. Go fishing. Yeah, fishing for bodies out of the river. That's what they were doing. Like, how can you get mad at someone in Maine? Maine is actually a pretty, pretty place, though.

I've been to Maine before. I've never been. Vermont. Vermont is very pretty, too. Ben of Vermont. Burlington. Burlington. Burlington. I never been to Burlington.

First time I went there, put like three triple fat gooses on Layaway. Great people. What? Great people at Burlington. Anyways. Aaron Ray at the blue note. Check them out. Yeah, I want to go.

tonight. I want to catch that last show tonight. Hopefully I can make it down there to check it out. But if I don't, I'll definitely... Do we know who's going to be with Terris after this? I don't remember. DJ Drama. Nice. Shout out the drama. Drama's been doing our... Text to group chat last night. Did you go to the album release?

No, I was in the tattoo chair. I wanted to go to the album release and I wanted to go to the Bluno shit, but I just ended up continued to get tattooed. Yeah, pain. Shout out to DJ Drama. The rollout, all of the... The releases that he's been doing, the whole juice thing has been dope. DJ Drama album is out today. If you're listening to it now,

it looks like 14 records, a lot of great features. We heard some of it before that sounded amazing. So I'm excited for drama. I know he's been working really hard on this. And the mixtapes have been great the past year. So I don't doubt that the album will be even better. So go pick that up.

Shout out to Drama, Lake, Cannon, all. Shout out to the whole team. Everyone that I've called Family Reddit. You know, the crew. Shout out to the whole team. This definitely sounds good. The records that I did hear, sounds really, really good.

Which ones are you looking at the track list, right? Which we'll have on the screen for YouTube? Which ones, which features do you think you're really going to like? Okay, so this is not me just trying to get back in good graces, but he did play us to Jack Harlow record when we were in Atlanta and I really liked it. That beat was fucking crazy and Jack went off. And I'm sure they finished it because it sounded very undone at the time. That nipsy one was crazy. Yeah, I was a race different.

And Nip and GZ and Blass was the one he played that I was like, yeah, that's hard. Sigh and L Russell went crazy. on the outro, if I remember correctly. Saha, what the album at, man? That Uzi 42 Doug one was great, too. Yeah, I mean, the stuff that he played does sound great. So I'm excited to sit with this in its final form. The Wiz Khalifa, T.I. and Simba.

I'm excited to hear that for some reason. I don't know. I kind of like that mix. I just like the fact that drama is like... He played that for us. Yeah, that shit was fire. Really? Yeah, actually, if I remember correctly,

Wiz went crazy. And this is bad content because people can actually listen to it right now. That's fine. We're recording on Thursday. And we heard this in like November. It's good. Because we're way cooler than you guys. We're so industry.

Oh, you guys finally get this album? Like, oh, yeah. Terrace was there too. Tarras was there too. Taryn. It's definitely a tie in. One of our jazz friends. Shout out the drama, man.

Glad you guys are finally getting this. I've been at it. Ew. What else we got coming out today? Any other music came out today? Well, Tyler just put out two Lucy's from it's a deluxe. I know he's trying

not to call it a deluxe. It's records that didn't make the album. It's the state sale. Let's just call it what it is. It's going to be a deluxe, but Tyler does things better than most people. So I'm sure it's going to be much better than just Lucy's. I just like that name. This state sale. Hard. I like that. You know what I like that. Wait, is the album hard or are you hard? Both. Okay.

That's not hip-hop. Been having a big hard on. Well, he was getting hard for men and women in the recent record. Sorry not sorry. Hey. There you go. Get tired.

Yeah, he put out two records. Is Tyler playing with us? I used to think he was playing with us. Wow. But I will say after sorry not sorry coming out yesterday, I do believe him. If you want to pull up the lyrics to sorry not sorry. Wait, you believe him about what? About him.

About him being bisexual. Oh. I did used to think because the older generation gets so weirded out and gets so homophobic, he just would find it funny. So he'd go above and beyond like your mentor, for example. example, um, he loved to get homophobic with. Maul's not homophobic. Well, actually worked out because Flex and Mall are both homophobic.

Oh, um. He brought you in. I was about Flex the whole time. Yeah. How I get thrown. Um, but yeah, the Sorry Not Sorry Records crazy. The video's really dope. It's, uh, him dressed as different parts of his career and kind of just dealing with the identity of, every album type shit. And then he beats the fuck out of him. But he does say, sorry for hiding the guys and sorry to the girls that I lied to about being bisexual. This wasn't what he has been doing before.

Like, this felt very sincere and very honest that this has not been a troll. I think he leans into it more because he sees it makes people uncomfortable and it's funny. But this felt like an actual confession. All right. So, if he is joking around about this, does the LGBTQ other, I don't know, I don't want to miss any other letters. I know that we've added some more. Plus.

Just say plus. Do they have a right to get mad? Squared. At Tyler. What joking about that? I don't know. I mean, I think he's been a good representation. Let's ask our residential gay correspondent.

Demaris. For all women, I speak for all gays. Yes. This is a great time. Wear your hats. If he was joking about this, he has a, like, the LGBT community community. Do they have a real legitimate reason for being up? upset with him if he is joking about

being gay or bisexual? The LGBTQ plus community will always find something to be upset about. I don't think that this is something for them to be upset about. Okay. Personally, but one of them might say that he's...

Someone's going to be tight about something. Yeah, somebody's going to be tired about something. They're often butt hurt. Anyways. But as far as like... We got to mute his mic. Yeah, for sure. But as far as like his audience, like... All right, we've jokingly talked about the conspiracy that Lil Nas X maybe isn't gay.

We know that a lot of his audience is from that community. I saw Little Nas X at LAX. He's gay. He hit on you? No. He was in Sephora at L.A.X. No, the way he was walking. I thought he had wheelies on.

That nigga was floating. Damn. That's kind of fire. He had the wheelie shoe on? He walks like Prince. Bro, I kid you not. Like, I was like, I'm looking. You know what it is when you just got your headphones on? You're suggesting gay men glide.

It's just a. A certain walk, like, it's a certain walk where you know, like, all right, if one of my homeboys was to start walking like that, I wouldn't want to pull into the side to have a conversation. What's up, fam? Well, we have a long shot camera. Get up and show us. I can never walk like that. It's just not in my DNA. Like, we'll be like wet the bottom of your foot, like your sock.

Hey. Like slide. Anyways. So I looked up and Little Knaz X was just like floating through the terminal. I thought that he was on a hoverboard. What if he was late to his flight? No, he wasn't late to a flight He was Dolow?

No, he had two security guards with him But I was just like, I'm looking I'm like, oh nah, bro Because I thought that too, I'm like, is this Is this really really gay walk? Like, if he was, it's just a certain Saskatcheward was like a sashade to the walk. Yeah, it's like, it's almost like a Couture walk.

You ever see like when the models are modeling Couture? It's a certain walk that they have where it's like you're going to see every fabric of the garment. Okay. That's cool. And Little Nasex was walking like, not only was he, early to his flight.

But he was walking like... Gays are naturally on time. Always on time. But he was walking like the flight wouldn't dare leave without him being on board. So it was kind of like, yes, I'm early, but even if I was late, the flight isn't going anywhere. All right.

We've all heard the conspiracies about Michael Jackson's voice being completely different than the one that he... What if you caught Lil Nas X, like he dipped off to the bathroom and then he just started ditty bobbing? Like, that's how he walked. Oh, like he was on his Kaz Associated? Yes. then what would you think?

I would have said, aha! I knew he was lying. What if he was going to piggyback riot from his security guard all the way through the time? That would have been a little too much. That would have been like, oh, come on, man. Well, my point being with Little Nause X thing, obviously a lot of his fan base is from that community.

So if our joking conspiracy was true, I could see the community getting upset because he is definitely, in that case, would be exploiting for a fan base. Does Tyler have a huge fan base within that community? No, they hated him, remember? Yeah, early on. 90% of his career, he wasn't cool with that community.

Yeah, but I mean, he surpassed all of that. Tyler's a superstar. So, like, I feel like as a straight man, I can speak for the gays here and say they should, they have no right to be mad. No, good. Stand on that ledge by yourself. You're not allowed to feel anything. Little Nazex quit Raya and stop dating famous people.

I don't know, Julian, if you caught one that, I know you're a Raya assassin. Yes, that's why I haven't seen him on there. Yeah, he quit. What are your settings on? No, Ryan is different. It just you see guys and guys. It's not like, it's different. Remember, I showed you like the map?

Oh, yeah, that's right. Well, I just assumed your settings were on both. That's why I didn't know it was. So Ryan has everybody that's on Ryan on a map. Yeah, you can kind of. So it's kind of like on X-Men when Professor X was inside the lab and he saw all the other X men in the world. It's probably what they designed it after. Yeah.

I'm not really a comic book person, but can someone explain to me why Professor X was like this really amazing, intelligent guy, but he couldn't walk. He was amazing. Like, why couldn't he... Would you feel like he could do all that? He could cure his legs, no? No. He was still paralyzed.

But, like, he could do all... He's just a telepath. Just think harder. I feel like if you could do that, you could, like, think your way into walking. You could float. He could float. He could talk little Nise X. Do a little Nazz X walk?

See? But again, I don't... Again, I don't look at comics like that. I'm not in that world. I just never understood why he was so smart, but also... like couldn't i could see another ticot happening he took a bullet to the back or something like that

yeah he took a put it so did drake and he walked and had a crazy rap career yeah this guy's name is mr x you're not a professor anymore so drake has more powers than professor x yes

but this is a cartoon like what's my man's name that that's super smart he passed away but he was in a wheelchair oh stephen hawking yeah like that i that i understand oh because that was real life because that was real life It's real.

Well, like, this guy can come up with magic. Like, you can't magically walk. Telepathy. Yeah, I think you, if you're telepathic, you should be able to walk. But that's a different skill set. That's not the same thing. It's not the same thing.

All right, you walk because your brain tells you to walk, right? Oh, man. TikTok. That TikTok is coming out. It doesn't come from the lobe. It has more, it has more, like, to do with, like, muscles and, and your spine and things like that. But, yes, the brain does send a signal to your legs

when you want to get up to walk. His spine is damaged. But if your, but if that nerve takes a bullet. If that nerve is severed, you can't do it. And then if you're that smart and your man's could also heal himself anytime it gets hurt. Why can't Wolverine fix the smothera's legs?

It's not that he's smart. He's a telepath. Because Professor X doesn't have antianth in his blood. Any, oh, like the pretzels? No, that's auntie. No, that's auntie. Yeah. Like his friends can control.

the weather. Like, I feel like all of Biden's friends can walk. They get the pack from Hunter Biden. You can walk for days. Yeah. I wasn't going to talk about Biden. I promise you, I wasn't. But did you, I see when they cut to him when they were talking about the, and prayers and condolences to everybody in Tennessee effect about the school shooting. That was like,

anytime kids involved, it's like, it's insane that this is not the first. I think that's like the 129th. Yeah. I think it's, it's 10 at this time last year, I think there's been 10 or 12 more shootings at this point than there were last year. And by the time you hear this, probably add two more. It's insane. But they cut to Joe Biden. He was supposed to address the whole mass shooting at the school.

And he was joking about chocolate chip ice cream when they cut to him. Nope. Is that information? Oh, he got that from Tucker? No. He got that from Tucker? Yes. He was going to do a briefing.

He was briefed on something. completely different than that. What happened was when he walked in the room, that incident had happened. He was unaware of what had happened. He went in under the impression of doing a different type of briefing, a lighthearted one. So he just went in with a jockey thing. And then shortly after that, he was informed about what happened. Oh, so when they cuts him, he didn't know yet.

He had no idea what was. Oh, but I'm just saying that's, that's what he was. Yeah, but of course, that was his first time speaking since the incident. So they were assuming it was about that. So then Fox just like fucking rock hard was like, oh, look at him talking about ice cream. And then if you think about it, it's not what happened. Anytime your grandparents want to cheer you up, what they do?

They got your ice cream. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. That's all he was doing. He was doing what grandparents do. Well, I didn't know that. Maybe he'll send us a dollar on Easter. They cut to him.

He was like, I wasn't going to come down here. I only came down because they said it was ice cream. That's hilarious. I was like, horrible timing. What? He needs a new like. Okay. All right.

But in Fox News's defense, no, yeah. That's a great timing. It is funny. Yeah. Who, like, come on, someone around Biden should just keep a camera away from him until he's briefed.

Yeah. No. Okay. I get it. I get what you're saying. He didn't know yet. So he went down there with a whole different thing. But the time of that was just bad.

It's crazy. I mean, George Bush kept reading that book to those kids there on 9-11. Because he knew already. I mean, sorry. Sorry. Oh, what happened? Sorry.

My bad. Oh, that was today. The Y went through. Oh, that was today is great. I thought the flight was delayed. The Y was delayed. That's a flight. Prayer is a condolences to everybody who lost family in the 9-11 attacks.

For sure. You're right. Thank you. Thank you. We keep forgetting about these kids, though. That's nice. It's nice. It's just rinse and repeat. It's true.

I mean, every single time they use the kids' death as a way to argue about guns or argue about transgender rights at this point. And let's argue about van sneakers versus Puma sneakers. Oh, my God. America is an S&L sketch in its worst form. Are you guys anti-gun? Anti-gun? Yeah. What are your thoughts on gun laws?

I think they need to be strict of gun laws. I think certain guns don't need. I think we don't need automatic rifles. you don't need those type of guns. Those are like killing machines. Now, you're talking about just protecting your home and your family and yourself, a handgun to me is acceptable. But these automatic weapons and these rifles, like,

they should not be on the streets. They should not be accessible. People should not be able to go and purchase one of those. Like, that's just common sense to me. And I'm somewhere in the middle. I know you're not allowed to be there. But, like, I don't think we should arm teachers. No.

Jesus Christ, no. I, like, I've dated teachers before. Like, I used to teach. Julian used to do. Like, should we be given these people guns? If someone came in my school to harm my kids with a gun, I would shoot them, I would kill them immediately.

I don't think it's that. If you had a gun. If I had a, well, I would, it doesn't think you got a way out to say. I want to talk like Mark Wahlberg and be like, I would have stopped them the planes from it in the towers. But like, I would have done everything in my power to save my students. Oh, no, naturally. If you have, if you're teaching, you have students in your class,

I think that's a natural thing for, for sure. But I just think, I think there's a middle ground we can find where we can have stricter laws on assault rifers, but we can also arm actual security at schools. Like it could be vets or it could be retired cops. Like people, and that's also a whole another fucking thing, I understand, but. I'll say, please don't put no crazy ass vets in the school with my kids. That's also a good point. But that's also, no pun intended, vetting

the vets, which they should be doing regardless because we need to take care of whether you agree with the wars or not. Our troops, they should be going through a psychological process to begin with. But we can find some type middle ground with this this gun control shit. Banning assault rivals is probably just the best start. And I'm also of the belief, of course, people will be able to get illegal guns. But it would help a little bit. Make it a little harder.

I'm like, it would help a little bit. You can take, you can walk around a Walmart with a fucking AR, but I can't take an iPhone and put it to my ear in a Verizon store. Like, that's a problem. That's a thing? I don't even know that. In a Verizon store, you can't do that. I'm just saying, like, they have these things like locked up.

But like you go to like the Midwest or anywhere gun store. They're like, yeah, I can feel the way. Walk around. It's like, what is wrong with this country? And it's, also we need to like stop going back to the Constitution. Yeah. I know that sounds nuts, but that's what we always go back.

It's the Second Amendment. We have to be the militia in case our government gets more guns than us. We should be able to arm ourselves. Our government has nukes, bro. Get a million AR-15s if you want. They could push a button and kill us all. And not only that. So, no, we're not going to win.

The Constitution was written so many years ago. Like, it's time to... You know how long it took to load a rifle in that time? Exactly. Like, it's time to change some of those. Yeah, you have some time to reason with somebody. Like, hold on. When I know this.

Man, when I'm done here, your ass is crass. Is there another option? Let's talk this out. Yeah, we definitely need to revise some of those constitutional rights and things like that because it's clearly we're the only country that I can think of that deals with this type of shit. When it comes to schools and kids being killed, mass shootings. so many stricter gun laws around the world where people wouldn't even think about doing shit

like there's some countries where the police don't even carry guns. Yeah. Like, you know what I mean? So it's just like, I mean, obviously we know there's big money involved in this. There's a lot of politics involved in this. And it's just sad that the kids seem to be the ones

that are the victims most times with these mass shootings. Whether it's elementary schools, college campuses, you know, in the mall. It's just, it's time for, for some real things to happen and real things to change. Or if not, I mean, we have 120 something now. I mean, we're in the third month of the year.

You know what I mean? So, I don't know. It's scary. And, you know, I understand how some parents now are scared to send their kids to school. I can only imagine sending your kid to school and getting a call that a shooter walked in and shot and killed your kid. It's sad, man. It's really sad. But, again, prayers is all we can offer at the moment is prayers.

condolences to the families and the victims. And hopefully this country does something about it. Yeah. What do you guys think about this new spin? It seems to be two-pronged for this incident. The shooter identified as transgender. And there's this whole conspiracy with the vans versus the Puma's, which I don't even understand. The story that I read was that the shooter was potentially targeting the pastor and the pastor's kid.

Oh, you love Fox News. I know, I know. I know it's a war against Christianity from the transgender. They were saying that that was what they believe was the intended target, was the pastor because it was a Christian school, right? It was, yes. So I believe that's what they're saying. I don't know. We will get more information, I'm sure, as time goes on.

I've seen some people tell my maybe the transgender or the shooter may have been a victim of molestation. These are all kinds of conspiracies that they're putting. not online and the shooter was targeting the pastor trying to get back at the pastor. We don't know. This just happened a few days ago. But what we do know is kids and teachers were killed. Whatever the motive was, you know, that's for the investigators to figure out. But if this person does not have access to a rifle, we're probably talking about this

in a different light. Yeah. Bottom line. Like I really don't think the LGBTQ community is attacking our kids. I think guns might be. But that's just, I mean, I don't think a person's sexual identity or sexual preference has anything to do. This is a fucking terrorist. This is just a shitty human being.

I kind of like just remove myself from stories. Like, I don't want to dive deep into this. It's depressing. Like, if you were to constantly think about all of this shit that happens all the time, like, how do you just walk around in life? Oh, it fucks you up. That's why I'm like, it triggers your anxiety. You don't want to put your kids in school. You don't want to socialize and put.

public settings. We talked about this before. Like it, it has literally, the shooting in Vegas, in particular for me, that definitely changed the way I feel about going to festivals and shit like that. For sure. Like that, I was just like, wait, a dude was in a hotel just shooting down at people at a festival? How could you, how could you comfortably go to another event like that and that not be on your mind? I went to Dane Vegas and they, that hotel obviously is still there. It's one of the flagship hotels. And they grounds that that, that, festival was on they no longer used. But when I was driving, the Uber driver was like, you see that window up there and it's like all blacked out and like it's like no one uses this room. He was like,

that's where it happened. And he didn't even need to say what it was. And I just look down from where it was to the grounds where we were, which used to be the festival grounds. And I was like, can you just imagine it was just, it was like a video game. It was like you're just shooting at a gun range. That's what I'm saying. That affects you. It can't, is no way for you to go to these events and walk outside and go to these places without thinking about that. that type of stuff, which is why I try not to really think about it without coming across as desensitized because I don't want to seem like I'm desensitized to it. Like, oh, just another mass shooting, just some more kids that were killed because that's definitely the wrong approach. But

with Damarisin, I agree. It's like you don't, I don't want to jump too much into it because it does affect your day to day. It does affect how you move through life. It does affect if, you know, I want to put my kids in school or have them homeschooled or, you know what I mean? It's just, It's like where we, where we, where we, where we going as a, as a country where it's like, you're deciding, oh, should I send my kid to school because I'm scared they may get killed at school? Do I homeschool them? Do I go to this event?

Do I take my kids to public events? Bro, they're making bulletproof backpacks, like, for children. Yeah, like that. It's crazy. It's insane. And as a former teacher, I know that this definitely has, affects you. I thought about, I think about, when I was teaching, I thought about this. And I have a niece and two nephews.

that are nine, you know, every kid that lost their lives and this was nine years. I just can't even like fathom just seeing one of my brothers go through that, just dropping your kid off at school and then like... And the actual kids, it's probably at the fact check for me, but probably the highest peak of ADHD period, I would imagine is now. Now imagine in your backpack is a Kevlar vest. Yeah. How are you supposed to learn? I couldn't learn in a... a healthy environment I was having trouble. Now I have Kevlar in my backpack. Chemistry doesn't stand a chance.

I'm going to be paranoid as fuck. The generational damage, the psychological damage is going to do to every kid adult that was in the school when this happened. These kids are, that's the most impressionable age of your life. So these kids are forever. When they think of school, they're going to think of murder and they're going to think of fear. Like this is just going to ruin.

I mean, we're seeing it now. The Sandy Hook kids that are older are still fucked up. Like you don't heal from stuff like this. So the more of these happen, the more we're just doing creating long-term damage. I remember I was in school. Like the thing that we did was fire drill. That was like, of course, yeah. But fire drill was just an excuse to be outside.

Those were lit. Yeah. That was like, that was when we outside, we're chilling. Now you have drills with active shooter drills. Yeah. But you got to hide. Very calm in schools. And you got to, it's like proper approaches, locking doors.

And they actually, these kids are actually paying attention because they see what's going on on the news and they're scared. Like us when we did fire drills, we were fucking around. The whole time. Yeah. Yeah, we weren't really paying attention, but these kids are like... It's sad, man. Yeah, like, daughter used to come in.

Like, she knows about all of this stuff. That shit is so scary. It's sad. And our schools were assholes, though, for doing that in the wintertime. Oh, my God. The fire and drill in the wintertime? Even during 9-11, we were fucking around. Because, like, we didn't know we were lying to.

They told us a pipe burst in the building. Everybody get out of your desk. We were just like, ho-ho. Like, we really know what's going on. But now... Yeah, but now an active shooter drill is, like, a different level of fear. Yeah.

Because it's like, all right, is this a drill or is there somebody actively in the school letting off shots? Again, prayers and condolences to everybody in Tennessee affected by this. Another tragedy for this country. And you bring up the Vegas one too, just have my mind back to probably the most secure city in America as far as surveillance. Right. There's not a single corner of Vegas that is not on camera or monitored at all time. I don't know if you guys watch the dock of the Vegas for a whole week. He was just bringing in artillery, like bags upon bags all week.

He stayed in that hotel room. Yeah, I don't, I don't, listen, man, you know, again, it starts at the top. It starts at the government. It starts at the laws. And clearly something has to be done because other countries do not experience this. They do not go through this. It's just something that doesn't happen. So I don't know how America doesn't look at that and say, all right, we're doing something

completely wrong here and make some changes immediately. But they'll probably make some changes to, you know, you know, where we can access on the internet. And I've seen that China and Russia have moved away from the U.S. dollar. All of these things happening. And we're sitting here worried about same-sex marriages and, you know, that's the focus. Yeah, it's stupid. It's dumb shit.

Protect the kids. Protect the people. Protect the citizens. And get rid of these assault rifles because there's no need for them there. They're just simply to kill massive amounts of people at a time. But to lighten the mood at what? What age can you stop participating in April Fools? And if you ever were to get in a relationship,

would you be able to do those couple prank things that I see on IG and TikTok? Like fake break up? Like just when couples prank each other, like it would be fun for me for like a week and that I would go too far. Like it would be the downfall of the relationship. It would be cute and funny in the beginning

and then it'd get really bad. You have to barrier. Yeah. I mean, that stuff is cool, but I... Like I'd unconsensually freeze her eggs. I'm not with, I'm not with like, Like, shh. Wait, what? April fools.

It's like, I don't even know you can do it. I don't even know how to do that. I was going to say, I don't even know if that's possible. I'm going to. I don't know. I'm with the April Fool shit, but, you know, I'm just not with, don't film that shit and put it on social media. You're not. What's the point?

Oh, everything has to be filmed and put on social media, right? Kind of. Or it didn't happen. To DeMaris's point, yeah. Does a relationship even exist if it's not on social media? Mm-hmm. We heard what DeMera said about Valentine's Day. Or birthdays.

That's on Patreon. Or women. So you wouldn't do some April Fool's pranks? You and the fellas? You and your jazz group chat? Me and the Rat Pack? You and the Harlem Knights? You wouldn't untune his saxophone?

It got to be funny, though. It has to be funny. It can't be like some corny shit. Yeah, I got a baby on the way. April Fool's jokes. Ugh, they're so old. That's probably 101, right? People just posting the ultrasound.

Yeah. God. You can't do that anymore. Bieber got canceled for doing that years ago. Bieber did not get canceled, number one, but I don't remember that. He dropped. He's still selling out. He's thriving right now.

They gave him the Grammy, but he dropped a fake ultrasound picture, and women were saying that's insensitive to women that can't carry the term. So him and Haley had to put out an apology statement. Every thing is insensitive. The world. Like, everything is insensitive. Like, when can we get back to just like, okay, that was a joke, ha-ha-ha? And that was it.

But let's not pretend like April Fool's. Like, we don't need to protect April Fool's. No. April fools was always kind of corny. I actually forget sometimes that that's not even a real thing. Like April Fool, somebody does something stupid. Oh, April Fool's. I'm looking at them like, okay, I guess.

Can we look up the history of April Fool's? I'm sure it has a racist undertone somewhere. Yeah, I'm sure it goes back to the South. Absolutely. April Fool's Day or April All Fool's Day is an annual custom on April 1st consisting of practical jokes and hoaxes. Jokes is often exposed to actions by shouting,

April fools at the recipient. Mass media can be involved with these pranks, which may be revealed as such the following day. The custom of setting aside a day for playing harmless pranks upon one's neighbor has been relatively common in the world historically. Let's get to the origin. They got me last year.

In 1508, French poet Eloide de Merville revered to a poison d'Ire. A croissant. Possibly the first reference to celebration in France. Some historians suggested April Fools originated because in the Middle Ages, New Year's Day was celebrated on March 25th in most European towns,

but the holiday that in some area of France specifically ended on April 1st. And those who celebrated New Year's Eve on January 1st made fun of those who celebrated on other dates. You're fooled. By the intervention. What the fuck?

Why did you sound like... I was trying to sound old. That's racist, first of all. Sound old? Wait, so the New Year's Eve crew didn't get along with the April... April Fool was big? It was a beat.

It was like, yo, are you stupid for celebrating New Year's Day on New Year's Day? Of course, right? You guys celebrated on, you know, March 25th. So it's a French thing. That makes sense. I watched the Patriot.

They were like, hey, we'll help you in the Civil War. Yeah. April fools. Yeah. We're never coming. So yeah, it makes sense. I get it. It's the French.

They always fool us. Have you guys ever been pranked? No, two. No, I've never been to France. No, pranked. Oh, I've been pranked. It's never been to France. I thought he said, have you been to France?

We were supposed to go to France, but, you know, we got too drunk. That sounds were all right. We had a blue chew up and hungover. Jesus. You can't get on that train to Paris of the blue chew headache. No. It just doesn't work that way.

It doesn't work out. No, I don't do pranks because I come from a bloodline of people that will take it too far. And that's setting up, you know. Yeah. I don't take pranks, like, lightly. Like, you prank me, I better be able to know it's like a joke. Like, I better be able to tell within the first 10 seconds is a joke. I was at a family wedding and someone through a dinner roll at my godfather's ear.

smart like a hard dinner roll not like one of the fluffy ones like it had been sitting this was past the reception time it was like a rock yeah everyone laughed but my godfather there's two things my godfather is petty and rich racist oh uh three things no well you know three things he grew up in the 70s you make a judgment call god love the 70s he hates your coals oh he hates me hey holds the nigger. He definitely leads over and more, hey, holds the nigger. He throws a dinner roll at him. It throws a banana.

It calls it a ration. Oh, my gosh. I didn't say that. I didn't say anything. I was laughing. I didn't say anything. Okay, well, this is going to get worse then. Okay, good.

I love it. Especially since we're making these jokes because this part is serious. All right. So no, everyone laughed, but my. my godfather. He was like, that was, I really just took a shot to the ear type of thing. Hey, you know, he's very patient too. So about like a year and a half later. Oh my God. He laid on that for a year and a half. That's some psycho shit. Oh, that's going to get worse. He brought that roll home. He took out a huge ad in all the local papers around this specific town in the Jersey Shore where this gentleman lived that threw the dinner roll at his ear.

took out ads in every single paper around the town so the guy wouldn't go to get his local paper and see the ad and put NAACP pancake breakfast 6 a.m. free pancakes till noon and put the gentleman's address. He sat outside.

Oh my God. He sat outside of the gentleman's house with a video camera. It was a little while ago before phones had cameras and sat out there from 4 a.m. and watched bus loads of black kids show up to this guy's front doorstep. That's so fucked up.

Asking about. That's sick. No, like churches. That's hilarious. It was like all our welcome. NAACP pancake breakfast free pancakes for the entire community. That's a great prank. Buses.

Gets worse. Oh. Another year passes. Oh, wait. He doubles down? It was a hard dinner roll. Back to back? Well, damn, how hard was the dinner roll?

How hard was the throw? Shit. He takes out another ad, same strategy. Antiques and baseball cards, 5 a.m. to 8 a.m. on a.m. on a. So many fucking old people showed up to this gentleman's house at 5 a.m. looking for antiques and baseball cards. Nah, I'd have had to shoot shit. I like shit.

I like shit like that. Oh, that's my uncle Kevin. You said? Oh, I love shit like that. That's great, though. That's great shit. That's a good prank. I really should have doubled down on the black.

sending black people to a New Jersey man, middle-aged man's house. In the shore. Talking south of Monument County. That's why he went mad of my people at risk because. Yeah, that's a day on your ground law. For pancakes. Wow. Okay, you know as whites, we don't like things through.

That never crossed his mind. And actually never crossed my mind either. That could have got dangerous. Yeah. Of course not. It's fucking white privilege. But that's the point of a prank. I wasn't, I was fucking 12.

I wasn't in on the prank. It was Roy's idea to do pancakes. Yeah. He said he found out that Rory's the one that threw the roll. Roy said maybe it's why. Yeah. This is, yeah, this is clue. Like the whole time, it was me.

All the time was Rory that through the roll. That's crazy. A prank like that is cool, though. I like a prank like that. The guy, like, how did the, the guy had to know at some point that it was your fucking godfather. Yeah. And we all laughed about it for a whole other year.

And then he did the antiques and baseball cards a year later. He was like, oh, it's such a hit the first go. We gotta go. We have to come on. We need the second movie. Got the blacks to come out one year. Here's the sequel. Here come to old people the next.

year. The gays was next. But oh my God. You can't break the gays. Don't do that. Because see the gays will take that offense. Like you had us get up in the morning and come here. You think gay sleeping? Yeah. They'll say it's a hate crime. You think gays. What the fuck is wrong with you? I was the one that said that they're always on time. I had a good comeback. But that might have been the one that got us canceled.

Say it. No. No. Don't. I'm not going to do it. I stand with Tyler. You don't even know Tyler. I don't know him. Never met him. Well, yeah, that's how my family does pranks. So I try to stay away from pranks because I'll take it too far. That's thought out. That's like strategic.

That's a prank. That's a prank. I don't, the pranks where you, hey, ha, you throw a bucket of flour and water on my head. That's not. That's a lot. I'm not laughing at that. That was a challenge on Twitter. Yeah, yeah.

No, I'm not doing. Don't do that. Well, some of our, the biggest brands have done some pretty good pranks over the years. Burger King did a left-handed wopper. in 1998. That's funny. I feel seen. April rollout,

which I know, yeah, Roy, we can resonate with this. They had a whole campaign about inverted condiments that were specifically made for left-handed people.

It's true. The way you hold a burger was made for left-handed people. It was pretty interesting. They also did another prank about one. Are you one of those lefties that can, like,

write what you're right, though? No, I can use it. Well, you don't need to anymore, but I could use a computer mouse with my right hand because when they brought computers to my junior high, like when that became a thing.

The teachers were so scared that we were going to ruin them they wouldn't let me take the mouse and put it on the other side. So I learned how to just use a computer mouse in my right hand. But I can't write with my right hand. Wait, I did that too.

But is that not just because that's how they're supposed to be? Computer mile? They just would not allow me the teachers to move the mouse to my left hand where I wanted to use it. I practiced doing things

with my left hand. Like I practiced brushing my teeth on my left hand. Beating off. I could, if I practiced jerk, I would still be jerking off. Yeah, never switched to the left

every once in a while. Yeah. I'll go to the right. I'll do the pepper grinder. Yeah, I'll go. You throw it to an ant. Yeah. That's nice.

That's called self-love, Damaris. Yeah. How's that nasty? That's self-care. That's self-care. But you didn't hear it. You didn't hear it at end. I drink over my left so I can pretend it somebody else.

Yeah, call it a stranger. Yeah. You sit on your hand. You sit on it. Yeah. It's white boy shit. You understand. That is white boy shit.

Wait. In the jazz chat, we talk about it. You sit on your hand. The left hand. It's from a movie. What movie is that for? I don't know. The concept is the nerves in your hand go numb.

So when you jerk off, you don't feel it. You don't feel it in your hand. So it's not gay. It's just like you're fucking. It's just getting air fucked. No, but you feel like the grip. Learn at summer camp. Yeah.

Something like that. Look at what I'll be doing at camp. I never went to camp. You never went to. It says a lot. That means more. Never went to camp? I was a basketball.

I did like sports and shit. Well, there's basketball camps. They weren't overnights. I went to like those things. Oh, those were just like, like, watch the kid I was about to say that's just daycare with activities. I did a fucking city rocks. I played basketball.

Yeah, that's daycare activities. Drop the kid off of the gym. I mean, we had like tournaments that I would go like away for, but it wasn't camp. It was business. They have adult camps. I remember. I want to do that. Yeah, we talked about it.

One of our, like I think our first 30 episodes we talked about going to a day camp with the with the crew. I think that would be great. That's fire. But it got to be activities though. Like we got to. Oh, no. They have like wine. They have like swimming.

from shit into the ocean. They have like the, you know, the boxing. They had that at every resort. Like, give me something else. Give me, like, camp stuff. Can you guys swim? No. You don't know how to swim?

I can't swim. You look mad buoyant. Yeah, you look like you would just float. You would just float. I am very buoyant. You look mad, buoyant. You feel like, I feel like you would just turn a lot. So you would need to get the balance.

Like a beach ball, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. See? I could do that. How you don't know how to swim? I never learned. He lives in the scene.

Almost John is a child. We grew up in the same neighborhood. Yeah. There's pools. I didn't really care for one in the pool. Pools are disgusting when you think. When you really get into a pool, pools are, because you know nobody,

pools are disgusting. Mad chlorine. Everyone cares all. Everyone's peed in a pool here before, right? Oh, for sure. Yeah. Yeah. You got to pee in a pool.

Like as an adult? Gross. No, as a child? Oh, sure. As a kid, yeah. As an adult, I hope you're not being in a pool. You could really just get out. As a kid, you've definitely peed in the pool before.

I did a swimming program when I was a kid at Boys and Girls Club. Yeah, I learned to swim early. I think, That's not a thing? I think you should... I thought it was a thing. I think you should learn to swim early. Because you lose that...

You don't have a fear as much as a kid. I don't have a choice anymore now. Well, now you're just scared of... Water. Yeah. Yeah. Why are you scared of water? Because I can't...

I drown, bro. What you mean? No, but it's... You know, the thing about swimming is... It's really not that difficult. Like, it's just the fear of the water is what's like... You can not drown, though, right? Because they're swimming and then there's just like...

I've never really just like... Staying a lot. Like, yeah. I can survive. I can't swim. Like tread water? You can't swim either? You don't know how to swim to marriage.

Statistically, you know. I'm a, yeah, no. I'm a black girl getting my like face and edges and everything wet. Because in order to swim swim, you have to put your face in the water. I wasn't doing that shit. And pools also gross me out. So, just, no. But I know how to stay alive.

Like, I can stay alive? And you wore a t-shirt when you went to pool? No. Okay. For our next vlog, can we just throw them in the water and see what happened? Hell fucking, no. Just push on. Give me another dumb ass tattoo.

I took another tattoo. I'm with that. I'm with pushing you on the pool. Cool. You know, having me and Edd and have, like, have a swim race? No, just like, just two stopwatches who can, like, tread and survive the longest. As long as mall is my lifeguard, I'm quick. We'll be there to take you out, but we just want to see who can, like, stay the longest.

Mall has a-a-tham. Demaris and Eddard and the swim off is hilarious. I would like to see it. Damaris ain't trying to put a face in the water. Now, I would smoke him in a swim off. I will smoke him. Have. I can swim underwater, but I can't, like, I can put it underwater.

He says you don't like your face wet. Yeah, I don't. But what I really don't like. is when you know when you're like swimming and your face is halfway in the water and the water's like splashing you in your face, I hate that. So you'd rather just swim underwater all the way. Gotcha. Than the splashing in the face.

I mean, you don't think like instincts will set in. Like once Eddyn's back gets wet, you don't think. All right. Took it too far. Yeah. He's been waiting to make that.

Yeah, he's waiting to make. Basketball camp taught me my eighth grade year going into ninth grade that I just, I wasn't fit for basketball. I went to basketball camp at Basketball City and they paired me with all the kids. from Cooper houses in Brooklyn. Roy's like, I'll go rebound. And I only know that.

I can see you, Roy's white-ass playing against a bunch of dudes on the projects. And I only know that because they kept screaming Cooper in my ear, and I'll never forget it. Cooper is hilarious. Cooper bitch. And what's fucked up is on my mother's side,

like her maiden name isn't Cooper, but there's a lot of Cooper's on her side. So, like, I've had PTSD at family functions when the Cooper's come. It's just reminds me of that summer. It's like the Coopers are here. You just look over and see a basketball. And my, I didn't know what they meant for so long.

Who sent you to that basketball camp? My mom. I went to that camp summers before, but I was never paired with the kids from Cooper. Who were you paired with before that? I mean, just the kids that were there. The whites? No, it was, it was a pretty mixed crowd. Oh, okay.

A mixed crowd. It was racially diverse. Basketball camp is hilarious, though, because you meet so many people that really, you know they're only there because their parents have nowhere else to send them during the day. It's like, bro, you're not athletic at all. Why are you here? It was a dude called snacks. There's always a dude. There's always a dude.

Love snacks. No, but he pulled a snack out of his, like, basketball shorts in the middle of a game. That's cream. He pulled like a chocolate ball out of his shorts in the middle of, he's on the court. That's all right. He has to keep his sugar level. I guess so. He was progressive because now I get it. I'm like, he was about to pass out. He didn't want that to happen. He's the one that just gets tired and sits in the pain and throws elbows eventually.

No, I get it. I get it. Shout out the snacks. I understand. Now that I'm older, I know, oh, you was about to faint. Your blood sugar level was low. I get it now. Well, shout out to everyone in Cooper houses.

Every time I go to Brooklyn Steel, I look at you guys across the street. And I have shivers come down my body. Roy really like he said good screens in basketball. Roy looked like he plays he plays hella fundamental. No. He knows the ins and outs. Real coo. He does stuff that doesn't show up on the stat sheet.

We're always one of those guys that said, energy. You have energy. It finds the ball. Or he calls the team time out. I knew how to take a charge early. I was about to say, I know you could take a good-ass charge. Taking a charge and pick up basketball is definitely one of the most insane. Like every dude that ever did that, every dude that ever did that, I just want to know where they're at in life.

They're either locked up or like just coming home from a bit. To take a charge in the park. on concrete. It is kind of nuts. Like, what are you thinking? Can you close your eyes during the charge? Oh, of course. That's how you're doing.

Someone like this. Cover your chest? No, you got to cover your nuts. Yo. Yo. I never took a charge on concrete, but I probably took a charge it on the hardwood.

I probably did. I'm never taking the charge. I was, I'm never, I've never taken a charge of basketball. Are you kidding? We'll get that shit. If he scored, we're getting it right back. I'm not taking no charge.

I was so small. It was a blocking foul, but because I was so small, like the charge. They had a charge, yeah. I remember they had me ref one time at camp. They had me ref like a game. Never again. Yeah. Oh, I got cursed out.

So they said, what the fuck are you looking at? Like, yo, I'm not a ref, man. I'm actually enjoying the game. I forgot I had the whistle. I'm like, my bad. Like, how they called a foul? For the long time, listeners, we do want to know at any point did you plant your feet with Ray Rice.

Man, Ray Rice dog, my ass, man. He did. That motherfucker's strong, man. You know what somebody's strong when they run past you and bump you a little bit and just knock you all off your shit? You still move? Yo, I'm not guard this, dude. Listen, once I got to basketball city, I had to change my game because I thought I was good of basketball until you meet people that are good at basketball. Yeah.

So I was never the guy that was like always played defense or took charges. But once I got to that level of basketball, my only strategy was play deep. defense till he gets annoyed. You know the annoying kid. Like, why you play, why you, why you doing a full court press right now? Oh, he was one of those guys. It's pickup. It's annoying as fuck.

So it was a psychological thing. I saw a clip of, um, penetrating dish every time. Of Matt Barnes and, uh, and Isaiah Thomas was talking about, uh, how Larry Bird used to talk shit. And he was a, he said Larry Bird was offended whenever he would step on the court and it would be like a white guy guarding him. Like he only wanted, like he felt like it's a. level of respect when you have a black guy guard me.

Okay. Like I don't, don't put no white boy on me because I'm going to smoke. That sounds like liberal white guilt to me. No, that sounds like just a white boy that had a whole lot of game. It was like, listen, don't put no white boy on me because I'm smoking their ass.

I keep telling people, Larry Bird is one of those basketball players that people forget about because he wasn't athletic. We're not as old as you. Well, no. Just looking at just highlights. He wasn't like an athletically,

you know, he didn't have a bunch of muscles. He wasn't super quick. He didn't jump high. but I tell people all the time, like, do your due diligence on Larry Bird. Look at his games. Look at his highlights. Look at his averages.

Like, Larry Bird is easily one of the greatest basketball players that I think gets overlooked because of how he looked. He shit talker, too. Oh, my God. We never talk about the reverse of the stereotypical joke when it's like the one black guy in the pickup game and you pick him and he's not good at basketball. We've seen that sketch a million times. We never talk about when you're the one white guy and everyone assumes, all right, if he's, why he got to be nice if he's here. He's a shooter.

He's a shooter. And get. Larry Bird did that for them. I'm saying, guess who wasn't a shooter, Rory. And Rory is such a name where if you were a shooter, like that would sound like a crazy nickname. I had handle and that's pretty much as far as it went. Yeah? You could dribble?

Yeah. And I could pass. I knew my strengths once I got to basketball city. In my neighborhood, I could shoot. But I wasn't contested that much. I got you. Okay. It's important to know your skill set when you playing ball.

For sure. Or any sport. And I was a fucking dirty asshole defender. Like I'm pulling on your shirt when the ref can't see you the entire time. I'm going to annoy the fuck out of you. That would be wrong. We should, we should. 100%.

We should get into like a league like this fall winter. A podcast league? A podcast basketball league skit would be fucking. I would want to do it for real though. I'm taking our five. I'm good. So I'll, Matt, we'll play any fucking podcast. I'm trying to think.

I know Gilly could ball. Yeah, Gilly could hoop. But outside. of that. I don't know. I'd like, we don't even need to cover Elliot. Like, just leave him, let's do boxing one on Gilly.

Just leave Elliot open. I don't care. You leave Elliot open. If he knocks one down, so we'll live with it. Yeah. Banking the three. Yeah, we'll live with it.

I mean, I know, I know Norrie's been running on Instagram, but, you know, he still smokes cigarettes. I'm not worried about. But I think, like, if we were to make that a skit where it literally show everybody personality, like, Nori got tired and, like,

pulled out, like a fifth out, out like his pocket. It was like, I'm going to catch up. Like, I think that would be so fucking funny. I'm with it. Had like Weezy cheerleader. You have Weezy and me and down the side. Weezy will be playing. Let her hoop.

You don't think Weezy? I think Weezy got some handle. I think Wiese could play. I think she could play basketball. I think she, didn't she play basketball? I have never had that conversation. I think Wizi told me she played basketball in high school, if I'm not mistaken. This isn't a slight two horrible decisions. I just listened to the content. The amount of basketball interactions they've had, I'd imagine they picked up on something. Well, Mandy. I will tell you this. They will be dressed in the best practice shorts of anyone. Yes.

Exclusive shit. Oh, man. God, I can't wait to see what they're wearing. What do we think? Edon is, I mean, if we do five on five,

I think we should take Yomi instead of Ed and would be like the equipment manager. Y'all are very much of interesting. Eddie, you could play a little bit. He might Bill Murray. He went to Cardo Mays, bro. You better be able to play basketball a little bit.

Oh, shit. You, you knife? He went to Hayes. He got it. He was there with. some dudes that played basketball. Wait, but what era though? Hayes is good now. Hayes wasn't good before. Hayes was pretty good. Oh, it was decent. They always keep a

high school. They always keep in band. He was in band. Edom was in band and in theater. Yeah, but I mean I was great, but I'm not playing fucking fucking what, what is it called? Basketball? What is it called? What is it called? Yeah, never mind. Yo, yo, yo, y'amie. Lace of sneakers. Yeah, yo me. You got you. Basley.

You know, having Basley? Anyone. Basley would be like Airbus? Benner? Benner's tall. I feel like... Oh, wait, we get better. Oh, true.

No, and Benner can play basketball. I've seen better play. Better can bowl. Oh, yeah. I forgot we get better. Puss down the cigarettes. We'd have a good team. Yeah.

We would have a good team for sure. Eddn, you would set good screens. Strong like, boom. I feel like Edna'll just like fall mad hard off the charge. Eddn, they doubt on you, bro. I got a feeling you would... You know what? We're talking all this shit about it.

He would be the one to hit the game when he shot. That's just how life goes. Well, that's how movies go. That's how life goes. Oh, Eddard's like Rudy. He's like, rowdy. He's like the ginger kid in the big green. Edithin is like Rudy.

Like, I didn't do anything. Y'all just carried me out. You definitely cried watching Rudy. No, those kind of movies don't do it for me. He's a lot. Well, you cried during the Polar Express but not Rudy. You cried during the Polar Express? Because he's a Christian.

You definitely cried during Rudy. Don't do that. No. All right. Yes. Can we get into Rudy, though, for a second? We did before. In the scope of his life, like, was that...

What did Rudy end up being? Like, talk about living in the glory days, bro. No, it said something at the end. He did get a movie out of it. He was productive in life. Don't do that. Wait, what did he do with his degree? Was it based on a true story?

Yeah. Yeah. Oh, I didn't know that. They embellished for sure. But, because listen, I get it. It's commendable. He worked on his grades, got into Notre Dame. That's an incredible school.

who can say they've played football at Notre Dame was on the field. I get all that shit. But what did he do with the degree afterwards? What was it worth it for that one quarter when they were being blown out? No, well, Notre Dame was winning that game. That's what I'm saying. Yeah, I mean, the whole thing was about him just wanting to get on the field. He was a grew up a big Notre Dame fan.

His dad was a big Notre Dame fan. I get that. But once that last game is done, he's 22. Like what happened after? Was it all worth that moment? Well, he went on to be a motivation. He's a motivational speaker now. Oh, so he was just a scam.

He was just a scammer. Oh, well, he did do it. He did a pumping dump scheme. See, I didn't even... An alleged pumping dump scheme. I didn't even know that, and it's proving my point even more. Yeah, he was just using the glory days, which wasn't much glory. It was just one fucking down.

That's all right. One down. He lived the dream. He went out there with the gold on the gold helmet. Vince Vaughn went to the league. Like, that's the story. I'm going to follow that story. This guy just became a motivational speaker and a scammer.

5-6-165 playing defensive end. He was a unit. That's insane. He was a unit. That's just bad coaching. Yeah, it's just horrible recruiting. Yeah. Why would you put him in?

He was determined? And he was off-sides. Great movie. Legendary story. And did he even get paid off that? Of the movie? I'm just saying, if you're going to go to Notre Dame, use the degree of how amazing that school is not.

just to do one down in the fourth quarter. Sean Ashton was a great actor. Yeah, he was, yeah. My favorite Sean Astin movie besides the Goonies, which is obviously legendary. Toy Soldiers. Y'all remember that movie? Yeah, wow.

Love that movie. Wow. Love Toy Soldiers. Classic. Y'all aren't known about Toy, so he might be an underrated actor. He just, he's just always going to be Rudy for the rest of his life. 100%. That's just what sucks with those types of things.

It's a classic movie. Speaking of movies. And we can clean this up, but, I mean, I just think he was just an idiot. I just think his priorities were wrong. That's all. Sean Ashton? No, Rudy.

You don't know him? No, I watched the movie, though. It was accurate. No, it was not, man. You just said they embellished. Fair enough. Go on to the next topic. You had a good transition mall.

We owe, well, I owe Jonathan Majors in apology. Do you? Yeah, man. John, I'm sorry, man. Yeah, I just, I wanted to be, you know, proactive, man. I just don't want you to ruin your career. But some text messages were released from the young lady evolved in the whole Jonathan Major's incident.

But before we get into that, he definitely saw our social clip. Did he? I got some phone calls. Wow. Shit, fuck. And then I had him with the pussy behind the scenes. Watch the full clip. Oh, that's true.

It was out of context. Hey, Jonathan, we love you. We fuck with you, man. Well, I definitely fuck with you. But yeah. Well, no, this was just, this was just another time. that you have gotten me into some shit. Yeah, that's all right.

I always get approached for what you say. I was like, I was quiet. Well, objectively, you were kind of feeling what he was saying, right? You laughed. See, that's what it was? You laughed. It's always like the guy that's laughing too hard

that the guy, like, yo, what you laughed? I was talking about Daniel Hernandez in that case, the entire time. Gotcha. Well, some text messages came out. Well, the lawyer, Jonathan's lawyer released text messages from the woman that was involved in the incident.

And she says, please let me know you're okay when you get this. They assured me that you won't be charged. They said they had to arrest you as protocol when they saw the injuries on me and they knew we had a fight. I'm so angry that they did and I'm so sorry you're in this position.

I'll make sure nothing happens about this. I told them it was my fault for trying to... Hold on. I like how you switch back to my whole voice. I told them it was my fault for trying to grab your phone. So she deserved it. What is her fault?

What is her fault? Her injuries. Her injuries are her fault, so she has injuries. Okay. But you can't assume off rip of like what that means. I'm just asking. I'm just asking the room with people. She says, I only just got out of the hospital.

She just called me when you're out. And then, of course, you have to put in, I love you. And then she says, they just called me again and check on me. And I reiterated how this was not an attack. And they do not have my blessings. See, I don't like that's how the court system works on. I'm like, right, this? I like, no, this is, this is a white woman.

They didn't have my blessings on any child. You know a white woman was going to say. They didn't have my blessings to charge you on any charges being placed. I read the paper. They gave me about strangulation. And I said point blank, this did not occur and should be removed immediately. The judge is definitely going to be told this. She ensured this to me. I know you have the best team and there's nothing to worry about. I just want you to know. Because it's already out there. People are going to do. I just want to say that I'm doing all I can on my end. I also said to tell the judge to know that the origin of the call was to do with me collapsing and passing. out and your worry as my partner due to our communication prior out of care she promised all

would be related okay i will say from the origin of the call this is snitching uh may have a i don't know this is this snitching the origin of the call i've never met anyone that said that in real life the origin of the call was due with you know when you called me the origin of the call but look what she said the origin of the call was due with me collapsing and passing why does she collapse and Pass up. Because he choked her ass. Yes, de Maris. You don't know that.

Allegedly. Dog. All right. Allegedly. Hellfish allergy. Can't say that. Leggely. Yes.

If this isn't the most planned fucking text message I've ever read in my entire fucking life. First of all, if you're in a relationship with somebody and all of this is going down, you're not texting their phone saying due to our communication prior. Bro, you're calling them and having a conversation. You're not sending up here texting them due to our communication. prior. Get the fuck I'm locked up at the time that she was texting this, which is crazy because

if you know I'm locked up, why are you texting? Paper trail. Yeah, like, why are you doing that? This is snitching. Also, does this not read as like the accuser being like a, you know, when they say you're attracted to your abuser? Does this not kind of read like that? That's why I'm saying this is this doesn't, to me, this doesn't help Jonathan in any way.

It doesn't help him. It doesn't help. It doesn't help. This doesn't help. I'm not saying, listen, she recanted all, you know, she's, you know, she's, said he didn't do it everything was recanted so you got to give jonathan that like okay cool but these sex messages they say a different story is something happened she collapsed and passed out why is this woman collapsing and passing out what happened that's all i'm saying like the lawyers

are going to like oh why did you collapse and pass out what happened so this doesn't this doesn't help these text messages do not just go back to the text message if she collapsed and passed out how did she get strangulation marks around her neck. Was he doing CPR wrong? I just don't. Hey, listen, she said nothing happened. Look at just how life can change so quickly. Go above this one.

Did you leave your keys at 9 a.m.? Boy, does life change at 6. That's crazy. Yeah, 6 on the dot is weird. All right. Now you're getting to Vans versus Puma's at that point. 6 p.m. on the dot. I mean, I'm with you. It does read a little odd. Yeah, this doesn't This doesn't help his image any.

I'm not sure if this is going to do anything as far as illegally. But image-wise, people read these text messages. And if these are alleged text messages, we don't know if this is 100% true and this is from the lady. But this doesn't read like something just happened and he never did nothing put his hands on her. This reads like a cover-up. You know, she's assuring that, you know, she didn't tell him.

anything. He said this didn't happen. It's not true. But she collapsed and passed out, she said. I just want to know why ladies collapsing and passing out. I told them it was my fault for trying to grab your phone. I feel like this regardless will affect him. And then we're going to go down to every comparison of every actor that's probably guilty of this shit that continues to get movies.

Question. $250 in food stamps or dinner with Jonathan Majors? Oh my God. I don't know, Rico's going crazy right now. I don't want to be affiliated with anyone. I'll take the food stamps. $250 in food stamps or two minutes and 50 seconds in the ring with Jonathan Major.

Why would I want to... I would just take the food stamps. Why would I want to fight? Because you've been taking boxing classes. Well, right, right. But I'd like to spar with the people that I work out with. I don't...

Yeah, I mean, just don't put that. I've taken boxing classes. Relax. Yeah. Have you not? I spar. I don't take classes. Oh, he's sparring.

So two minutes and 50 seconds sparring with Jonathan. May. Just Mr. Spartan? I don't, I'm not trying to box with him. I don't know him. He looked like he got reach. You don't know him. You got to know who you sparring with?

Of course, you're crazy. Yeah, you got to know. Who wants to fight? There's this whole thing called weight classes in boxing. I'm not sure if you're aware of it. You wanted to throw me at basketball city with the kids from Cooper. I'm not doing it in the boxing ring with Jonathan. Why not?

You were the one that was talking about him. You get in the ring. I'll get a ring with him. Why? Because I'll go like, what's the upside? What are he playing in Creed? A boxer?

Yeah. Oh, I'm not getting a fucking ring with him. What did you think he played in Creed? I didn't see Creed 3. Oh, sorry. Yeah, I don't know what he was. I don't know if he worked at the concession stand at the fight.

I don't know. Now, that would be hilarious. That big strong motherfucker working at the concession stand. I don't know if he was one of the judges. I don't know if he was the ref. No. I didn't see Creed 3. He was the opponent.

Yeah, he was the opponent. He didn't. He didn't get in shape like that to sell popcorn. And I'm telling you, from the little bit I know about boxing movies, you train for those movies for real. Yeah, so just train, continue to spar like Will Smith moved his hips when he smacked Chris Rock. Yeah. That motherfucker has a stance. He knows how to fight.

So you wouldn't get, you wouldn't spar with Jonathan Major. I've made that very clear that I would. Oh, okay. But you would. Yeah, I would. How tall is he? Pause. How is that a pause?

All right, he's six feet, 75 kilograms. I don't know. I'm an American. He's 165 pounds. Six feet 165? So he is not six feet tall. No. Because he is huge.

Why is he not six feet tall? What are you talking about? Because you're not that big, like mass-wise. No, that doesn't add. Muscle weighs. He's a Hollywood. He's a Hollywood six feet. Like, he's not actually six feet.

Yeah. I'm still, I still think I would lose that fight. I'll be honest. But it makes me think that I could, I would go in the ring at least. No, you wouldn't. No, you wouldn't. You just said you wouldn't. I didn't know he was that at that way.

You said, I don't know him. There's no way he's 165. I'm six feet. I'm, look, comparatively. I'm six feet. I'm not comparing you to him. I'm like 170. I'm 175-ish.

And I work out. Like, I, you know, keep up. But there's, there's, are we at the completely different body? Like, he does. No, we know. We didn't think you had the same body type of him. Come on.

Don't do that. No, we didn't think, like, I just want to let you know, we didn't think that. No, we didn't get confused. I spar with you, Roy. We can. I would love to. I've taken a couple of boxing classes. I'll spar.

I'll do it. Can we record it? For sure. Okay. If you know what? I got reach. And me and mall. Ah, we could do the podcast boxing one.

That's the real one. Gilly another one. I know Gilly can fight. Gilly can fight. I've seen Gilly box. He can box. You know who can quietly box too? Andrew Schultz.

Oh, yeah. He does. And whoops, too. And Schultz, I wouldn't. I wouldn't fight Schultz because I know he is. He can box. He's big two paws. Like, he's got reach and height.

I don't have a good enough strategy to be able to box someone that tall. Yeah, he got linked. Now that I know that he's Hollywood six feet, I would lose, but I would still get in the ring. Okay, so now that you have more information. Yeah. I'm smart. I feel better going into the ring with him. Oh, yeah.

I mean, I don't know the measurements of his torso to arm ratio, but. I could ask lipstick alley. They probably know. Oh. So, yo, the whole dinner with Soldier Boy, $250,000 food stamps. I don't know why you should. I would take the dinner with Soldier Boy. I just think that that would be a fun-ass dinner.

I felt like this was disrespectful. But you also don't need $250 of food stamps. It depends on who you ask. Yeah, but, I mean, it's Soldier Boy. It's Soldier Boy. It's dinner with, like, you're going to, it's going to be a funny, it's something crazy is going to happen. Like, dinner with Soldier Boy, dinner with, I don't know,

who's another crazy? Charleston White dinner with Soldier Boy and Charleston White are drastically different. And I know this is based off the Jay-Z whatever shit. Soldier Boy is a businessman.

He's done a lot of business shit. He's adapted in every single era. Like put some fucking respect on Soldier Boy's name as far as what that dinner would get you in LLC Twitter. Soldier Boy could tell you what time it is. I just want to sit there

and just see what he would order on the menu and just laugh. That would be my whole thing. Chicken fingers and fries for shit. I want him to tell a story. Nah, I think you got Soulge Boy fucked up. Who, me? No, Rory.

To moat chicken fingers and fries. No, I just think he could afford the filet. I just feel like he would lean towards the chicken fingers and fries. I just think it would be a funny-ass dinner. I think we would sit there and be laughing. I would definitely want to hear some of them crazy-ass stories he'd be telling. Would you crank that with him? The true ones?

What? What? What? Crank that. You'd see talking about it. I just feel like we all owe Soldier Boy a lot of apologies. Why? I don't.

Even down to his antics where we thought he was lying. Like when he did one of the funniest interviews in internet history with Vlad, yeah. People tend to forget that. Like imagine that over dinner. That Vlad also interviewed those guys like a year later and they said, yeah. It was true. So yeah, it was hilarious when Soldier was like, yo, get to get.

Like, nah, no, I knew. Like, it was hilarious. Yeah. But it was true. So that's what I'm saying. Imagine that story over dinner. Yeah. Like, come on, man.

That's how we're going to ask him about, are you? I mean, I would want to hear it, though. I would definitely want to hear that story again. Like, yo, come on, man. Tell that story again, man. Tell me about that story. The way he was shooting is so fucking funny, yo. Over a filet, man, y'all?

But if you think, because what gun do you say you had? That would just been nine millimeter, right? Yeah, the kickback, that was accurate. If you got one hand on a nine, you're doing this. Yeah, 100%. I just love the fact that it was a real story. Like, everybody killed him for this and was like, yo, get out of here with this shit. And it was real.

It really happened. Also, the whole soldier boy did it first has been a great running bit. Oh, I love that. He really has been at the forefront of a lot. He's kind of like the rage a of shit. Well, let's not put out false information. He lied like shit on this interview, but he did end up actually shooting someone in his house.

Yeah, I mean, he added, he added it for entertainment purposes. He said the guy was dead. The guy was alive. Like, I got interviewed. He added to it. But the fact that it was a real situation really happened, he really shot at some intruders in his home. And called him in the ass.

Yeah. And wouldn't pass the gun. So what's that producer that he works with? A-Rap. Yeah. No, I can't give you the pistol. Sorry, A-Rat. That shit was legendary.

But I do think Soldier Boy needs more respect. I think it's... Even when he was talking about that shit with Breakfast Club, when he was saying Drake, all that shit. If you listen to what he's saying, he is telling the truth to some degree. He's just a performer. A lot of people did steal his flow.

A lot of people did take all his shit. He's been around for a while. Who stole Soldier Boy's flow? Drake. Drake. I'm not letting y'all get that off, man. Okay. You don't know that interview?

That was a soldier boy song. Which is fine. Like, no one's... No one's saying Drake can't do that. Drake has records before that. No, we know. But that's not like that. Yeah, that track.

Okay. And other, a lot of artists. Jay Z, young Chris, Drake, Soldier Boy, same shit. I'm screaming. Another person... I'm not going to fall into that. All right, cool. Another person...

I tried. All has to put respect on is Lil Wayne. you have a little bit of Wayne hate in your heart he had to have foot why do y'all keep saying that because I just I do not

I love little Wayne I'm just asking do y'all think that little Wayne is a better artist than some artists that I ask well I pay attention you just called him

little Wayne with two T that's not you're saying he's Wayne yeah but you added two T's I said little Wayne yeah like no I just asked the question

do you think little Wayne is a better artist artist not rapper then do you think he's a better artist than Rick Ross. Do you think he's a better artist than LL Cool J? That's all I asked.

What should we start with? This was all off-camera and everyone that's wondering what we're talking about. This was the debate during pre-production. Mall came in and started with Wayne v. L.L., which sounds like a very weird debate, but as far as rappers go, they probably do have one of the longest careers in the time. Different era.

Different eras to some degree. Different type of music. So when you versus somebody has to be the same error? That would probably be more idea. Generally speaking, yeah. The only thing they have in common is you said who's a better artist. They both have long careers. That's the most they have in common.

Which is hard. Little Wayne of Snoop Dog. Who's a better artist? Two different generations too, no? Wayne. Artists. Wayne is a better artist than L.O. Cool J. and Snoop Dog.

He's not a better artist than El-Coo-Cube. I think you were a little head of yourself there. Why? Y. You don't even... I'm also too... You know why I don't like that. Then say that.

The first L'Cool-J CD I bought was 10. All right, but don't say... It's 10,000. But don't just say Little Wayne if you don't know. LL's catalog like that. Well, you ask me a question. Yeah, but you can say I don't have enough information to answer that correctly. But that's not fun for podcasts. Yeah, no, it is fun for podcasts. Because it's honest.

Podcasting is about being honest. We want to be honest in the show. I enjoy Wayne. A millie verse. Mara said knock you out. I'm going to Millie Alden. I'm going to Millie Alden. I'm 100%. I'm 32. I appreciate Wayne's rapping more than LL Kooj's rapping in his later years. But when you talk about full songs, like a song, like a song, I think that

El Cooje makes better songs than Little Wayne. Nope. Okay. It's just unfair because L.L. is a pioneer and they were starting the genre. So it's a weird comparison. Yes. In that way. By the numbers. But if you were to ask me that

cute question, I don't care about it. Why are you going by the numbers? Why are you going by the numbers? I think, but I also think Wayne had it easier to create better music. That's not hip-hop. Yeah, you're going by Bill. Billboard. I don't think it's a fair debate in L.O. Cool J's defense because I think Wayne had it easier to make better music and had more resources and had like that's where it's not fair to me because Creighton lounging at that time is insane.

It's way crazier than making the car to three at that time. Little Wayne, Mrs. Officer or L.O. Cool Jays, love you better. Love you. Love you better. They're different. Mrs. Officer got a melody on it, but that melody cream. The J-Lo version. L.L. Cool J-Roundaway girl or Little Wayne

out of love. Don't do that because Wayne's bag is not the girl records. That's L-L's bag. So what bag you want to get into? Rap. That's not rap? L-L is rapping on Love You Better.

What are you talking about? He's rapping, Rapper. L-L-Col is a really, really, really, really good rapper. He's one of the pioneers. My point is saying this is that. Listen, Mett, L-L told us we needed love, Wayne taught us how to love. It's all connected.

You don't even see it. I don't see it. I don't. I didn't catch that one. I'm just saying I just like to ask certain things like this because I think, one, people don't really understand how great of an artist, L.O. KooJ. You think Little Wayne is overrated? Do I think Little Wayne is overrated?

What was Little Wayne's last? Man, we asked you a question. Do you think Little Wayne is overweighted? Overrated. Sorry. That's it. Overrated? You ask me a crazy question. Overrated as an artist? Yes. That is overrated.

Overrated as an artist? He can put some weight on. Overrated as a rapper? No. Little Wayne is one of the greatest. Who's coming out and saying that little Wayne is the top artist ever? Who's saying that? No. He's a rap. He's never said that. People talk about Wayne and the best rapper alive. But he thinks he's one of the greatest. Oh, I definitely think he's one of the greatest. He's top ten. Rap artists of all time for sure.

I think he's, I think you could actually debate more on the rap side as far as a artist. Wayne is fucking one of the greatest rap arts. artist that's ever existed. Wayne, to me, he's one of the greatest rappers. You talk about just rap, let a nigga just go. Rap? There's no argument there.

Wayne is one of the greatest rappers ever easily. You would say, I'm just saying artists. Artists. Is he even top 20 for you? Oh, yeah. Well, let's define, okay, so let's clarify this and let's let's make it clear and concise. What defines artistry to you, right? Because I said that I don't believe that Kanye is top five.

That's a little. Rappers, but I think he's top five artists. and Julian said I was a fucking lunatic. Oh, Wayne is one of the greatest. I mean, Kanye is one of the greatest artist ever. There's no debate. Yeah, that's what I said. But I don't think he's one of the greatest rappers of all time, which is a, there's a

difference. So that's why I said, let's define artistry in comparison to being a rapper. Songs. Like, when I say, oh, that's one talking about. Okay. You're talking about your catalog of your albums, your songs. Like, that's what I mean with artists. Okay.

The type of record you make. Including mixtap. So off mic, Mike, you said you don't fuck. You said Wayne's mixtapes don't count. Yes. I don't really like to count mix tapes because it like... Well, that's a body of work. You can't.

It's from that era too. L.L.L. was from that era. But it's different. It's different. It's different with mixtapes because a lot of the times the mixtapes you're taking a beat that's not yours. And it's kind of like you're just like, it's like kind of like just drawing in the lines. Like the outline, everything, the shell is already there. You just painting them with your lyrics.

But any rapper would do that unless you're making your own beats. Yeah, but when you say artists, I'm saying like I'd rather take albums because most of the time on your albums, you're taking songs from scratch. That song was built for you. That's the first time we ever heard that beat. That hook is yours. Like, that's what I mean by albums. Alums is more of that on an album.

Mix tape, you take a beat that was hot. Somebody had it. All right, I'm going to do my thing on that. Boom. Which is still an art to that. But I'm a little more so like, what does your album sound like, though? Give me your album.

Okay, so you don't think Wayne at the height of his mixtape era puts out the record prostitute. I can never pronounce that last word. Flange. Whatever the fuck he's talking about. It's fine. We get it. Yeah.

That's not shaping the next 20 years of hip-hop. And that was on a mixtape and to some degree original beat and he's singing. Is that not one of the best rap artists? Like, I could pinpoint that exact time when he was on mixtape singing over original beats. That's a rap. That's a rap artist to me. Of course, you could get Kanye, Andre, everyone at that time. But Wayne was the biggest rapper and then took that.

melodic shit to another level. I think you're saying, I'm not saying Wayne isn't a rap artist. But everything you're saying right now in your debate for Wayne, I'm saying that LL has done that for rap and more. He's probably one of, if not the most important pioneers when it comes to how music sounds now.

For sure. I agree. That's all I'm saying. That's all I'm asking. But we move this to conversation away from LL because this is about your thing with Wayne and you thinking that he is an overrated artist. That's why we are talking. How can you not how can you not discuss his

You like the Carter 4? Yes. Do you think that it's Do you think that people have it as the best in the Carter collection? No, I don't think anyone would say that. So the Carter 2, 3 are the ones that we go to.

Those are the ones that 1A, 1B. So that was what? 2008? 2007 was probably the Carter 3. Okay. 2005 was Carter 2? I could be wrong. I'm pretty sure Carter 3 was 2008 years ago. Okay.

When we go to the album that we all is like, yo, this is like the one that we go to. Like if you're talking about introducing somebody to Wayne, you would go to those two albums, Carter 2 or 3. Right? But that's, I think that speaks to Wayne's artistry that you can't really do that because I would say the drought too would be a way to introduce somebody to Wayne. Before I would even go to Carter 2, Part of 3. Now, you got to go to the Carter. If you enter for the first time, you got to go to Carter. Okay, then I would do Carter 2.

And that in comparison to every big artist you're thinking of that would say what would be the album you take. Carter to stands up with the rest of those albums. I'm not saying it may be better, but that's in that conversation. So how, like, as far as influence, how he changed the sound, everything. How could you not say Wayne?

Like, Ross to me, you could argue, has a better discography than Wayne when it comes to albums. That's a preference, but I'm also not going to argue with someone that says that. I get it. But as far as impact changing an artist, the motherfucker Wayne is way above. Rick Ross. No, I mean, if you're talking about influence and all of that, you start adding

those attributes in and of course, we know that. All of these rappers today are Lord of Wayne's like sons, all these rappers today. These are all Wayne's babies. We know that. I'm not taking another, I'm just talking about the album, the discography, the bodies of work. That's all I'm comparing here. That's all I'm talking about here. I'm not influenced. He's one of the most influential rappers, artists that we've had in our culture. We know that. That doesn't even need to be debated. So how does that not go into his artistry? Unfair comparison with LL at that point then Because LL was one of the biggest rappers

Ever in his peak, right? And at that time, it was just albums, get you a single, get you a video, disappear, get you a single, get you an album, and continue. Wayne was the biggest rapper in the world and was putting out fucking four mixtapes a year, an album, he did 100 features.

Spock was putting out volume and quality. Four or five records on the radio at once. We can deal with, let's deal with what's tangible. We don't know that LL could do that. you don't know that L.O. could do what, to create that music out? To survive in an era like that, be the biggest one and also compete with what's going on under him, which was mixtapes, which was features.

He could have disappeared. He was the biggest artist in the world at that time. Right. And all he did was put out mixtape after mixtape. There was not a single month where Wayne did not have something out that was also quality at the same time. Again. That's something you need to put on his jacket that you can't with a lot of art. work ethic.

But work ethic can be cool. Quality. But everybody don't have work ethic. Work ethic. A lot of people have work ethic but shitty product. A lot of people have good product but shitty work ethic. Wayne has good product and good work ethic. How many artists have that?

I think it goes back to, again, and this is the beauty of hip hop coaching and the music. Like you're revered to a lot of these artists depending on the time of the music when it was out where you were on your music. your life, how old you were. Sure. So, like, I understand what Wayne does for that generation, his generation of people that, when they, you know, they found Wayne. I know how important it is. I don't want, I don't want that to go lost in what I'm saying.

I just think that there are other artists when you talk about just albums, songs, discography, career that Wayne, they put, they just put Wayne, when they make these lists, we talk about these lists. When they make these lists, it's like, they put Wayne above a bunch of artists. that it's like, but wait, how are you just throwing them above these artists like that? Like, do y'all really know? Like, you don't even know LL's discography. You don't know.

I do know it, but I wasn't there per se to feel it in real time. Right. So that's what I'm saying. Like, an artist like LL, nobody would have LL over Wayne on their list of top rap artists. Well, people from his era would. Like, you know, like people that's making these lists today, it's like LL gets overlooked. And it's like, whoa, you got forgot about who this dude is? Vinna, if you told him the dudes that was outside in the 80s and the 90s,

they'll, all these artists, these rap artists, they'd be like, yo, y'all got L.L. Twister. Oh, no, for sure. But that's why lists are fucked up because the beauty of hip hop is that it evolved. Yeah, like, it elevated to another level based off what LL and them did. And Wayne, also, we still identify as a rapper. L.L. has done so much other shit. Like, we don't look at L.L.

And that's part of it, too, though. I agree. That fucks people up. Like, when movies, once you get into, once rappers get into, like, heavy, acting, it's like their rap shit almost gets deleted. It's like, damn, y'all forgot like what this did, what this dude did in rap, like what he did for rap. There's people who don't know that Will Smith is a Grammy Award winning

rapper. He's the first rapper to win a Grammy. John Cena's a Grammy winning rappers, too. Well, I guess I'll ask this question then. True. As far as the nucleus of hip-hop, which L.L. is a pioneer. Are we allowed to say that carrying on and adapting to what the world was to carry hip hop to the next level

is just as valuable as the pioneers to some degree. Yeah. Why can we also give a pioneer stamp to Wayne as well moving into the internet era and into the younger generation to carry hip hop to a whole other fucking level?

Why doesn't he also get the same respect? No matter what, if there's no fucking Grandmaster Flash, I get it. But we can't just all of a sudden be like, all right, well, Flash is above every DJ that's ever existed, even though these DJs have adapted and pushed the culture just as far as Flash Day was starting. Oh, yeah, but no, but I wouldn't, who's saying that Wayne didn't push the culture? I'm just saying if we're going with LL being that pioneer, and that's a big part of this argument, I'm also saying Wayne is a pioneer.

He won 100% is a pioneer, but I'm just saying that in today's conversation of top rap artists, LL gets overlooked more times than that. I agree. Yes, if that's your point, then. Like, LL gets overlooked more times than none. And I'm at the point, I'm like, wait, why don't y'all sit down and really go through LL's discography and his albums and his songs and really like remember what he did for the game? 10th album has two singles from that album are in his highest billboard shit. Like, he is one of the longest careers and longevity is not celebrated.

I'm with you all the way. Which is when it comes to that type of pioneer stat, I think it's unfair what we do to the same. second generation of hip hop in that regard. They are pioneers as well. I don't think. Absolutely. Hip hop doesn't happen without LL to where it is, but also hip hop's not the biggest genre in the world in 2023 without Little Wayne specifically. That's a pioneer to me. Wayne is, Wayne is a pioneer. Wayne is a, is a, is a trendsetter. Like I said, all of these artists that today, they look like Wayne, they probably try to sound like Wayne. They got tattoos and all shit. Like, it's the Wayne aesthetic. He changed the way. Down to his name, the whole little. Yeah, like he changed.

like he changed the whole way that rappers, just the aesthetic of what a rapper looks like. So we know Wayne's influence. We see it every day. We turn on our TVs or open our fucking social media. Like we see it. I'm just saying that in that let's not lose sight of the ones

that did that what Wayne did before Wayne. That's all I'm saying. It's like like how you was quick to say, nah, Wayne. It's like, but whoa, you didn't even think about that. You know what I mean? Like it's like, yo, hold on. Like don't, let's not forget about what LL did.

Well, I'm a nerd, so I can think about that question pretty quickly with some knowledge. I'm not just saying it off RIP because I grew up on Wayne and not on LL. If you want to take this to ball, it's like... I bought 10 when I was 12. Wilk Chamberlain was like the guy, and then Mike

came around, and now it's like, we're not saying what Wilt did for the game wasn't, or Bill Russell ticket, like, Warren wasn't great or important or impactful, we just know this version is better. That's more or less the same argument. And I know as someone that would argue Mike is the greatest, you can see the point where he's trying to make.

You can have those OGs, the pioneers, the people that really laid the foundation. But because of the work they did, other people have come along and have done it better. Are able to build off of that skeleton and create more. Make better. Like I want the highest iOS right now. But we find it the first one. Yeah, the first one is the goat. Yeah.

Get you. But nah, it's elevated because of the first one. But yeah, I get more, I get more point on we need to respect the veterans. But the people making these lists are fucking 21-year-old kids. They don't fucking know anything. That's why the lists are so subjective and we argue and talk about it so much. Well, no, that's what this conversation is about. It's just to bring light to like, yo, hold on.

Yeah. I need to go look at dudes like LL's discographies. But my conversation, I was asking you was how you saying that mixtapes don't count against somebody's discography and making them an artist. And then I brought up FAB because when people talk about FAB, they're not talking about his albums. they talk about his mixtapes for the most part. So that you would take away damn near his whole career if you don't count mix tapes against his artistry. I mean, but Fab has, again, Fab, to me, is one of those artists that changed the way we even view a mixtape just as much as Wayne did. I agree.

So it's like we get the summertime shootout series. Get the Soul Tape series. There's no competition. Yeah, like all of that, even when Fab was doing the freestyle Friday shit. Like all of those You know That was like pining That was like

He was making a whole other lane So yeah I count that But at the same time When we talk about FAB We also say like Yo we need more albums though Even if even with all the mixtapes

And shit people still say Yo but we need we need another album What was it? I don't know I think people ask for more mixtapes from Fad People don't be asking for Fow And also Fad

Niggins came from that lane With Clue Again I'm sound like I'm riding Wayne's dick But I think Wayne being the biggest artist and still focusing on mix tapes before the next Carter really made a lane and forced the biggest rap artists in the world to continue to do mixstapes. Because if the biggest rapper is doing it and he's smoking these shits, I can't be above

mixtapes anymore. Fab comes from that lineage. Oh, absolutely. I'm not saying Fab was doing it because Wayne was doing it. He comes from that lineage. Right. I just think Wayne made a whole different lane in mixtapes because he doesn't come from that, but made sure if you were the biggest artist on earth, you can't say you're

above mixtapes. I'm the biggest rapper right now, and I'm murking y'all on mixtapes and albums. So everyone had to continue to do... I go further than that. I think Fad... I think Wayne jumped into the mixtape shit because he's such a hip-hop head and he probably always wanted to do mixtape. But doesn't that also benefit people like FAB that come from that?

Oh, no. Because he's... I'm not saying... When the hottest artist is doing it, of course. It's helpful. It changes what everybody else does. Absolutely. It brings more value to what FAB was already doing because mixtapes are going to be taken seriously. But Fab definitely needs albums, though. Like, he needs to put out like, to me right now fab it's a lame wide like fab could because for whatever reason people still don't

respect fab enough as a rapper for me like i don't i don't hear people talking about fab enough as a rapper i agree for me fab got albums mixtapes the young o g project which i thought was underrated like if fab decided right now to really like yo i'm about to really just flood shit like fab could really fuck the game up right now because he has that ability He has a songmaking ability. Elaine is wide. He can rap. He can bar you to death.

Like, he has classic records. Like, he has like, like, he could really like take over and really like, you're listening, I'm better than all of you. Aside from the ones, you know, the goat, the J's and nod, all of those guys aside, I'm talking about the ones that are still like moving around active, doing features, doing that. A lot of these dudes can't fuck with FAB. I mean, I think Fabs, the best quality FAB has is that he didn't focus on that. You and I know FAB could rap.

for real. It's almost like a Drake thing to some degree. Like Drake could really rap, but it's focused on other stuff because he makes good songs. He has witty shit to say. He dumbs down shit on purpose sometimes. I think that's Fab's strength that he could rap so well, but knows when not to. Even some of his freestyles that are looked at as crazy is Fab dumbing himself down to make those freestyles better. So I, yeah, I think that's actually the opposite. We need a new Fab album. Yes, I need more picture captions. We need a new fab album. I would love to get another soul tape this year around the holidays if we could. But definitely, I want to, I need another fab album. I love to shit that. I don't know, man. I think he wanted to end it at three. Is it streaming?

No, I don't know. Samples. Is he scared? Because you can't just put mixtapes out anymore. And it wouldn't be worth the work. That sole tape mix tape series is easily one of the best mixtape series ever. It's phenomenal. I'm with you?

ever even the summertime shootouts like i know people didn't like the last one i thought it was some joints on there how many summertime shootouts are there two incredible three there were three yeah so he does three because there's no competition had three sole tape had three summertime shootout had three so if anything he would start a new series even the freestyle friday shit's bring that back every friday you just dropping a freestyle like shit like that to me i think now more than ever it makes sense to me. I mean, I'm not an artist actively putting out music. I mean, I put out a podcast, subscribe.

Download a lot of download each and every episode. But yeah. But you're not wrong, especially with monthly subscribers being one of the most valuable things to artists when it comes to everything outside of the music. If Fab kept putting shit out every Friday year, that would help his monthly subscribers, like you would not believe. What about Fab putting the album out on Patreon? Ooh.

Mix tape. If it was promoted, right? that's where the challenge making sure people know about it to pay the five bucks Fab having a releasing the album only on Patreon I'm with it Listen man

I just give it out of this I'd just be having shit in my head Sometimes worry What if he released it on our Patreon I mean We had listening Don't say to that terrible idea That would never have to be

Let's do a fat Listen to session on our Patreon And then the album I guess he could put it out On his Patreon But we got to have it first Because I'll do that idea Yeah

Speaking of where She'll just go over to Patreon. You have anything else to say before? Well, yes, rest in peace, Clay Evans, man. Sad news out of Atlanta. Rest of peace, Clay Evans, huge figure in Atlanta. A cool, solid individual for years, man. Loved in his city, loved throughout the entire industry.

Everybody has nothing but great stories about Clay. Just always, you know, took time to give encouraging words. Great personality, great character. Just a great person. great man. He passed away earlier this week. So rest of peace to Clay Evans, prayers and condolences to his family. T.I.

Lil Duvall, everybody, man. His close friends, his family. We praying for y'all. And also, rest of peace of Lance Reddick, actor, Lance Reddick. Notorious from the Wire. We lost him earlier this week, too. So rest and peace to Lance Reddick as well. Prayers and condoluses to your families. And all lineage of of the Wire, too. You know, like, just

law as Michael K. Williams a few years ago. Yeah. And obviously we know how many actors were on the wire. Like that, that lineage goes very deep. So prayers to everyone there.

So we'll take the story. We'll take the rest of this debate over the Patreon, I guess, Rory. Yeah. We celebrate... DeMaris's birthday over there. We swore we weren't

going to have a horny Patreon. Somehow I went down that path. It wasn't that horny. It was super horny. It was more educational. It was not the plan to go that way. Somehow it went down that way. It was so fucking horny.

You know, Just think we should wrap it up. Listen, man. Any plans this weekend? Probably. Shout out to the Knicks. No, I'm going to be looking at Twitter the entire time just being that kid at the window wanting to play outside of Dreamville Fest. Yeah.

Just curious to see what's going to happen there. I'll just be looking for all videos and be like, oh, that looks fun. Shout out to the Knicks. I didn't speak to Julius. I think he sprained his ankle. I hope that that's all it is. I didn't speak to him yet. but the Knicks look good.

Playoffs in like two weeks. Yeah, we have five more games left on schedule. We can hold the five seed, which is best case scenario. The Lakers looking shaky. Hopefully we get to that play in. I hope they don't. I don't know, man. It's just looking shaky for my Lakers, but, you know.

You take Bronny should be in the McDonald's All-American game? He was. They've seen a meme going around. It was saying that Brony looks like Turbo from Breaking, which I thought was hilarious. He got the same haircut. And he kind of looks like him too. But he definitely deserves to be in a McDonald's game.

I think it's funny that the athletes are now tailoring their shorts and jerseys with the McDonald's logo on it. Tailoring their shorts in their jersey. To be smaller and skinnier. Oh. Well, I mean, they're wearing the shorter shorts now. That's kind of like the thing. I just feel like McDonald's doesn't really promote that, but it's cool. Short shorts.

The hip-hirts. Like it made more sense when they had the bag of your shorts and jerseys back in the day. Yeah, but everything. now it's more tailored more, you know, soon they're going to have all the athletes are going to be basketball players are going to have a one piece on. It's going to be like a swimming suit. I was about to say like a track meet.

Yeah, it's going to be like a track meet. Throw him in a singlet? Yeah, I see that happening soon. I can definitely see that happening. How much did Bronny score? He had 15. It was all three. I think he had five threes.

Okay. All right. 15 old American game. I'll take it back. I'm sorry. Yeah, no, he definitely deserve to be there. He definitely deserve to be there. Shout to DJ Wagner,

DeWan Wagner's son. I like his game. a lot. I really like this game. His dad was easily one of the greatest high school basketball players ever. It's good to see all of the guys that was nice in my era, like their kids, their sons. Now, Carlos Booza's son is playing really well too. It's one of the best players in the nation. So it's fun watching all of the guys that I grew up watching seeing their sons now entering the McDonald's game and going into college and NBA. I don't want to do gender wars looking at this photo, but this looks like a bunch of high school boys.

Now, I would like a picture of all the women from their high schools to see if they look like this age. Mm. Okay. You don't have to, um, it's fine. Let's discuss that on Patreon at some point. Because this is nuts. This looks like high school kids. Yeah, until you stand next to them.

Cool. I'm talking about in the face. Like, these look like their age. Yeah, yeah. But women in their age. If they posted on Instagram with their girl in high school, it's going to look like a little kid next to Larsa Pippen. Stop. Little girls develop face-wise and brain-wise.

If you think that's what I'm talking about, Damaris, you are highly mistaken. Oh, you're talking about the way that they dress and stuff. I'm talking about makeup, how they dress. These chicks are doing makeup tutorials at 14. They look like 25-year-olds. Not the ones that's playing basketball. No, I'm some of the ones they're dating in high school. Oh, yeah, for sure.

They're wearing Gucci, Louis. How do they afford this? You know how they afford it. Bronny's NIL's worth $7 million. That's Bronny's son. He didn't get it? $75 when I was young. These kids want Gucci.

These kids want Gucci. Girl just wanted a gap hoodie when I was in high school. That was it. The Nikes that they sold at Foot Locker, like readily available, was what I was going after. Yeah. These kids want to go to Soho. All right, well, we'll talk to y'all on Patreon.

Have a safe weekend. Be safe. Be blessed. We'll be back in a couple days to kick it with y'all. A lot of good music out this weekend. Download, stream it. We'll talk to y'all soon. I'm that nigga.

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