New Rory & MAL - Episode 158 | Bare Minumum Boys

Episode Date: April 11, 2023

The Bare Minumum Boys are back to business. Rory and Mal directly address the cat burglar with (once again) the truth. After they set the record straight we get to the funnies. Religion has perfected the tax write off and pedo behavior. Do you, or have you, ever kissed your parents on the mouth? Speaking of predatory spaces, Hulu is making a Freaknik doc and aunties across the country are getting ahead of the footage. We then review Drake’s new track and offer reasoning on why this song isn’t it. The music conversation continues with an interesting discussion around 6lack and Chloe’s low first week numbers. Finally, we end with sports. Telfon Donnie was at UFC 287, which had Mal fired up, while the Knicks playoff run begins next week. Tune in as the BMB’s manage to discuss all of this + more without mic stands! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoicesSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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storylines ahead of the big tournament here in the USA. Listen to the 1021 podcast on the Iheart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Don Snow, aka Tinto's Donnie, was in the building. Donald Trump made an appearance at UFC 287, him and Dana White. He was just arrested last week. He was just indicted in Manhattan. It was kind of crazy. A week ago.

And now he's ringside at UFC 287. Frank Lucas shit. Yo, listen, man. I mean, you know, say what y'all want. This is entertaining shit. No, Worri and Mike. Welcome to a new, new episode of the new Rory and Mall podcast. I am all.

I'm Lori. And we are back with a new episode, bro. How are you feeling? Bike. I feel great. Yeah. Interesting weekend. And we can get right to it.

Some things happen, right? Some things was going on out there. Some laughable moments. Yeah. Some people sounding smart. Good weekend. Yeah, good weekend. I felt good.

It was good weather for the most part, you know. I'll make this actually quick in brief. Because I know there's a lot of people that are here. here just for the other response. Let's dead the narratives that were happening this weekend. I'm not even talking about them over there, just the narratives that exist. Outside of maybe two or three jokes, since we put our response video out two years ago, I have not said a fucking word.

Matter of fact, if anything, I've been objective and complimentary in a lot of places. And if you look at that clip, I even said you deserve to be on that fucking list. Oh, and by the way, I'm talking to Joe. I don't do this who we made concern, bullshit, and subs. You're fucking 45. talk to people. Don't bleep my name anymore on the podcast. Shut the fuck up. I told you the last time I saw you, leave me alone.

And I have not said a fucking word. I've been nothing but kind, polite. Anytime someone brings you up publicly, I don't say bad words. Stop talking about me. Leave me the fuck alone. It's getting obsessive. This is his third press run in two years. And this last one, his whole press run,

was trying to tell people that he does not talk about us. Your press run was talking about us saying you don't talk about us. You just went on your third press run in two years. I have not been on one press run talking about your ass. I did my response video and I left it the fuck alone. You did. Don't talk about lists, right? You should shut the fuck up if you're not on the list to talk about a list, right?

Your YouTube popped from you talking about a list you weren't on. and we know how that ended. My arms are just tired. I need a mic stand. Like, I don't know about you, but like, yes, we have mic stands, but I think we need more mic stans. We know, we need like 10 more mics. Yeah, no, I understand. Just get a few more mics to ends in here.

Should have kept your library card. Yeah, that's what I should have did. But I'm glad you, I'm glad you addressed that. No, it's not even like, and I may even sound frustrated and upset. And I'm totally cool with sounding that way. because I really have been quiet about this entire shit. That's what's making it even cornier. This started with you yelling at an empty chair

that I shouldn't come to your son's birth after there's a full episode of you talking about how much that meant to you. One story has not changed at all. One continues to change. I never took it personal. I never said wild shit. I never even went in on your business.

I left it alone after that response video. So leave me the fuck alone. Had we not spoken about that, we would have been hating. That's where you can't win. Now that we spoke about it, we hate it. I don't hate nobody. I don't pay attention to niggas enough to hate niggas. Like that's why I hate when I get drugged, drug into this shit.

Because it's like, I don't care about none of these dudes, man. Respect and love to all of y'all. I'm just saying facts are facts. That's it. Let's deal with the facts. But we're not mad. Rory and are happy. Our staff is happy. Everybody's having a great time. We have Mike Stans. We have Mike Stans. We have the equipment. Like, I don't want people to think that we don't have these are all like false. Just moving the gold post shit. Like cut it out, man, with the bullshit. Stop, bro. You're not the nigga that no. You're not the fucking the master of podcasting. I know niggas, you call you the podfather and you let that shit circle jerk you when you came on yourself. Combat, no. Combat Jack called himself that and then he passed away and then you started. Yeah, like stop it with that bullshit. Man, cut it out. It's corny, bro. Like, it's no, this is corny. I got to take seven showers a day now because my name is next to yours in the mud. Like, you know what I mean? I don't want to do this shit, man. Like, look what y'all got me doing. The same thing I said to Joe and everyone else, leave me alone. Don't talk about me. I don't talk about y'all. Leave me the fuck alone. I know we're creating content. People are Pod Wars, all this shit. I'm a

talking just to y'all in real life. It just happens to be on a fucking podcast. This is not a war or back and forth. Shut up. I'm going to shut up. And we can all move the fuck on and do whatever we want with our lives. Let the fans talk all day. But y'all, shut up.

Shut up. I'm going to do the same. Shut up. My arm is still tired. I do want to move on. I will stick to my side of. that if everyone relaxes because if i wanted to get froggy not talking about anything with physical violence talking about other things things in the bookstore things on the first page of the book i could

and i never wanted to so everyone just fucking relax and enjoy their lives and leave me the fuck alone and we can move on to other other topics yeah you got the dali lama out here touching kids and we're we're talking about fucking podcast wars nasty there's a war there's a war against the children in India. So, Rory, I was scrolling the timelines and I saw something that I was conical. I thought it was AI. Okay.

I thought we got a new AI. Because, you know, AI is everything now. So I was scrolling the timelines and I saw something and it says the Dalai Lama was, was asking a young boy to suck his tongue. So you have big pedo algorithms. That's what you're saying. Yeah. Your AI is pedo.

No, well, you know, it's Ramadan. It's a holy time. It's a holy time. I'm kind of trying to keep their frequencies in a peaceful state. So I guess the men of peace, you know, the energy is following me. It's finding me. Nothing about this is okay during Ramadan. I see the sun is down, but that's not an excuse.

Well, no, not this, but it's just, you know, that's just where my levels are. So anything that's under the umbrella of being peace and love and harmony and things like that. So the holy one, the Dalai Lama, he found his way to my timeline. I thought it was AI. I thought this was something fake that the timeline made up. and he's asking a young boy to give him a kiss and I believe he said suck my tongue okay he took your message of peace and love and took it a little too far a little too literal yeah a little too much love for the children but what is this though like this isn't hip hop

what is what is this Gandhi wasn't hip hop no this this isn't hip-hop this telling a little boy to suck your tongue all right at some point what can the UN do back to back to Roy not knowing shit, make a TikTok about it. Listen, man. The UN needs an army and they need to be able to raid countries when shit like this happens. I don't know the pedal laws and wherever the fuck they are, but it's on camera.

Clearly they're loose. He asked a child to suck his tongue and then the kid did it and you can see the kid doesn't want to. And even if the kid wanted to, it's still nasty. I don't know if they cut the video but he smacked him some sugar at first. He gave the kid the little peck on the lips and then he gave him

what he seems to be. This is what Professor X does and Cerebro when he's trying to find out with all Explanar, he put his forehead on your forehead to kind of fill your thoughts and see what you're thinking. But then he gave him a kiss and then he stuck his tongue out and said, suck my tongue. What is this? What in the gymnastic coach footlong subway sandwich is going on right now? All right. Who's man's, look at the people around too. Yeah, his man, his man, that looked like his right hand man is looking at him like, yo, you bugging. Like, we, the cameras are on. And you got the whole last supper set up on

Easter. See, I'm just, I'm just confused because everyone there was an age limit at the last supper. But here's the confusing part. It's 18 plus to get in. Everyone else has a mask on, right? You see everybody in the back. Everybody's walking past the camera. Everybody has a mask on. Because of COVID. Right. No, because the Dalai Lama will try to stick his tongue in your mouth. It's why they have. That's the new variant. COVID is over with. COVID is gone. This, the Dalai Lama is the reason you need to wear mask now. Mouth protection. Yeah, like what is he? Why are you trying to have this young boy suck your tongue. And then my man's in the back and taking photo. Look at that. I mean, this whole thing is on video.

This is, bro, this is disturbing. It's in 4K. It's in high res. And I think the Dalai Lama or whoever runs his account, I think they posted an apology or something. They issued something. They issued some words. I don't know, Julian, can you pull up? I know the Dalai Lama tweeted. What are the PR teams to clean this one up? He said, my bad, it was on camera. I mean, I just don't know. But this is, this is scary stuff, though, because. Because you can only imagine what happens behind closed doors.

Behind closed doors when the cameras are not around. So they posted a message on Twitter. They tweeted from the Dalai Lama's account. It says a video clip has been circulating no shit that shows a recent meeting. That was a meeting. When a young boy asked his holiness to Dalai Lama if he could give him a hug. You can't be his holiness. They blame the kid.

His holiness wishes to apologize to the boy. No, his peddleness. Why don't use holiness here. his pedoness wishes to apologize to the boy in his family, as well as his many friends across the world for the hurt his words may have caused. His words? Well, suck my tongues the words that they think hurt people. His holiness.

The tongue is a wicked sword. Right. His petonness often teases people. He meets in an innocent and playful way. He was like Joe Biden. And before cameras. Yeah. He regrets the incident.

This is a... Regrets, he had a face of glee. This is... He was in heaven. Yeah, but this is this is some... This is some sad stuff though because, again, you can only imagine what goes on when the cameras are not on, you know, behind closed doors. This is absolutely pedophile behavior. This is, again, using the umbrella of, you know, religion and all these holiness figures and all of this.

And then you have these little kids, innocent kids who are taught that these are the most holiest figures that they can possibly ever meet and be in the same room with. and then you have things like this. You can tell that little boy was confused. He didn't know what to do. He didn't want to be disrespectful. You know, it was a very awkward situation for him. You could just tell him his body language. He wasn't trying to kiss the Dalai Lama in his mouth.

You can't say you regret something when it's on a red camera. Yeah. Like, no one just happened to catch this real quick. Yeah. But this is scary, man. So I can't really talk like that. Yeah, that'd be weird. I mean, at least Catholicism has a no phone policy in mass.

Like, you know how much to catch it? Hollywood elites are like taking adrenaline crone from like children to preserve their youth. I'm sorry? For real. Yeah, like a lot of these Hollywood elites. Don't put that on Farrow. What if? Maybe he just has a good skincare routine.

What if this is how he does it? What if he sucks the the adrenachone from little children and that's how he stays so youthful? Suck my dog. No. You watch too much Harry Potter or too much Reddit of conspiracy. I'm just trying to see. Is this like the natural vaccine? No, this is the natural, this is the natural pedophile.

in his most natural habitat. But it's a tax write-off too, though, so he's chilling. He's good. This is a tax right off? Is there a law? What country is this in? I could be wrong with this. This appears to be in India.

I think they need to speak for this as a country. Like, their government needs to address this. I don't care. But what is it to address? There's children being molested on video. Yeah. Yeah. Go arrest this guy. I agree.

You're going to arrest the Dalai Lama? Yes. Yes. You should not be able to be a pedophile and be able to hide under the umbrella of religion and his holiness and all these other things. That's like the whole thing. Of course you should be able to. But I mean, listen, America as well, we have laws, but we just move priests to another diocese. They get sent on the waiver wire.

Yeah, but this is, but again, this is some, you know, this is troubling shit because this is on camera in front of everybody. This is a room full of people that's sitting there watching this like, and nobody. Nobody felt like... Nobody felt like, yo, like, walk up to it. Like, whoa, whoa, whoa, like, no, you can't go grab the kid. Like, it's like everybody's just sitting there watching this happen. Is it sac religious not to suck his tongue? Shut the fuck. I have no idea.

I'm just saying. I don't know. That's not my religion. That's not... Are you supposed to kiss with Dalai Lama? I don't... I wouldn't kiss no man in the mouth. That's just me, though.

I'm from the... I'm from... That's not hip-hop. That's the religion. So when Wayne and Baby were smooching on camera... That was mad hip-hop. That wasn't hip-hop. No, that wasn't hip-hop.

How was that not hip-hop? Everybody spoke out about that, not being hip-hop. Like, yo, what is that? You kiss your father on the mouth? No. Your father, like, he'll punch you in your face. You try to kiss him in the mouth. My dad's up.

Hug me. You try to kiss your dad in the mouth. He'll punch you right in your face. That's the way he shows effect. Hey, good job. Exactly. That's what you're supposed to do. You don't kiss your father in the mouth.

They said this was because of the mob. The mob would do this. What? That was their response. I've seen enough mob movies to know that. They don't kiss each other. Look at his man. At least he has a better reaction to Wayne and baby kissing than the Dalai Lama's age.

Yeah, I never, I never, that wasn't hip-hop. Keeping the dab secured is hilarious. Yeah, tight. Yeah, I never understood the kissing of, you know. I'll do that to my next nigga. Dap him and kiss him. What? I like the way that came off, my bad.

You got to do that to your dyke girlfriend. Was good, homie. Yeah, I'm just not. I don't know. That's something that I always kind of felt was weird. even when I see like, when I see fathers kiss their daughter in the mouth, I'm kind of like, I, A, A, eh, eh. You kiss your dad in the mouth?

Yeah, I recently just recently stopped. You just recently stopped. Maybe with in the past three years, both my parents kissed me on the mouth. I mean, I feel like at a certain age, maybe you just stop. Like, I don't. As a grown woman kissing your father in the mouth is kind of crazy. Because I also think there is a line where I'm not sexualizing a child when I'm thinking that apparently could kiss their kid.

But I do think at a certain age, like maybe you should. shouldn't kiss your daughter in the mouth. They stopped around like 23. My parents stopped. Like as a dad, you shouldn't want to kiss your daughter on the mouth at a certain. That's what I was saying. I'm sorry.

My dad goes to give me affection. He's not thinking about the dick I be sucking. Like he's just. I didn't want to take it. That's not what we're saying. Because I know Julian. Julian's over here smirking. That's not what I'm saying.

I'm saying there's a certain age that maybe you just shouldn't kiss your daughter. Yeah. Okay. From the father side. This is because this is a thing. I was actually going to bring this up. This is a thing that's going on right now. the game is being criticized for some pictures he took recently with his daughter that people said look too affectionate.

And this is his second time being under fire for this because when she was a little girl, there was a picture of him kissing her on the mouth. So I would like to know what age you all think that men should stop kissing their daughters on the world. No, when they had little babies and that's, listen, that's fine. I'm talking about as a young adult, no, you shouldn't be kissing. Why? You just shouldn't be kissing your kids in the mouth as young adults. But why? I mean, it's one of Drake's biggest wishes

that I feel like we should fulfill. What? Wish all daughters would kiss their mothers with all that lipstick covers. You're never too grown to kiss and hugger. No, real conversation. Why is this? I'm asking.

I don't know. I just don't think it's appropriate to kiss your young adult daughter or your young adult son in the mouth. But what would make it inappropriate? That's what I'm asking. My first reaction was no. But now that I'm starting to think about it,

I don't know. Maybe it's fine. A baby? sure like that's you actually shouldn't be it's actually but it works with the baby yeah not like a newborn but like I'm talking about like two three four years that's fine

18 17 18 18 19 20 20 no no no no we can't do that no that's a bit much I'm a gift but why I'm trying to get to the root of is why is it a bit much what makes it uncomfortable does it make it uncomfortable uncomfortable for you to watch would it be uncomfortable for you if I get uncomfortable

watching heterosexual adults tongue kissing in public We're talking about loving family affection. Yeah, I just, me, I'm just speaking for myself. I just don't think it's appropriate to kiss your young adult child in the mouth. But now I'm just trying to think where that, what would the day be that I was like, today's the day it stops? Yeah, what's the cutoff? Yeah. And like telling your daughter that like, hey, no more affection to you.

You're grown for me. No, no, no. Go find a dude. No, no, you can be affectionate with your kids and not kiss them in the mouth. Let's not make it seem like that's the only way to be affectionate. That's my point. My mom has not kissed me in my mouth as a young adult. It's never happened.

My dad has never kissed me in my mouth as a young adult. And they both love me dearly. Grew up with nothing but love and affection. So you can be affection with your children and not kiss them in the mouth. Also, how long do you hold a kiss for? Now you're just being weird. How is that? Nah, yeah.

I'm being weird now. Why are you even thinking? I'm starting to change my mind. I wouldn't see it as sexualizing your kid. If you want to kiss your kid in the mouth, have a blast. If you make out with your daughter, that's weird. But would you give it an age cut off? Like, when does that get weird?

Because that was your original point. That's what I'm saying. That was my first reaction. That's what felt right to say was you should stop doing it. Now that I'm thinking about it, I don't know. Yeah. When do you stop looking at your child? If you sexualize your daughter, get far the fuck away from her, period.

Yeah. But if you're not doing that and that you kiss. Yeah, but there's so many ways to show affection. That's all I'm saying. Like both of my parents were like great, loving, present, all that. Never once did I kiss at either of my parents on the mouth. No, my dad kisses me on the cheek, my forehead. He hugs me.

Yeah. Never in the mouth. That's maybe why you have intimacy issues now and why you have to kick women out within an hour after. Maybe if your mother kissed you in the mouth, you would understand what you had to catch that. No, I don't have this. It's so ridiculous. Because it's weird. The two people that feel like it shouldn't happen are the two people that like can't really maintain past the one night.

What is going on? No, wait, I got a response. Rory's, okay. So when, so when. I have no ground to stand on with anything of maintaining relationships. When Father O'Perve was, was, was. busting cracking you open like the Dalai Lama here

I'm saying like were you like oh like I get it he was trying to put me on like he was trying to make me like well it was it was less intimate I wish you would have asked me to kiss him in the mouth instead of just treated me like some flusy some meat I'm not like like at least at least kiss me in the mouth

and act like you like me sir I'm not laughing at your trauma but that is it's inappropriate it's inappropriate to kiss your young adult child in the mouth. Okay. Well, I strongly disagree. Like I said, I come from a strongly.

Yeah, so they said this look like cuffing pictures, but people have been on him. So this is a father's a stretch. No, no, no. What I'm saying is people have been on the game and his daughter for years because years ago when she was maybe around like 10, a viral picture, a picture went viral of them kissing in the mouth and people were sexualizing it and saying that he was sick and that was inappropriate and all of these things. So when I bring up what Marl is saying is as a young adult, it becomes inappropriate.

So what I'm asking you is at 10 when he did it, it was appropriate. But at some point, he can't look at his daughter like the 10 year old. And he has to acknowledge that she's 15. Yes. And we can put this photo. This is what's wrong with this? That's not inappropriate. That's not inappropriate.

That's his daughter. She's not a young adult. They're having an ice cream date. She's not an appropriate. She's not a young adult. What I'm trying to explain to you. And I think it's because you don't have. kids that maybe you don't understand.

And I'm not just talking about the kiss. I'm talking about at no point do you stop looking at your kid from what I hear from parents as a kid. My parents, do you know how long it takes for my parents to not look at me as a I will always be their child? So they don't look at me and be like, oh, I don't know. Demaris is dating now and is grown and is tall and has ass and like now I can't kiss her.

They don't look at it like that. They look at me like I'm their child. When they ask you to borrow money, that's when it changes. That's when you're an adult. Oh, child. Then you kiss them. But you're sitting there talking to two guys. Your mother has never kissed on the mouth, has she?

Not that I remember. As a young adult. I don't think period. But your dad hasn't either, right? No. But we're from an Irish non-affectionate family. I'm from a black affectionate family. My mother and my father has not kissed me in my mouth as a young adult.

There was love, but just like that wasn't how we showed love. Yeah. So all I'm saying is when your kids start to become adults, you shouldn't be kissing them in the mouth So when do you think kids start to become adults? And is it just father-daughter? Like high school? Like mothers should not kiss their sons?

Were they's? Or like where do you go along? No, you can kiss your kid. You got to kiss a they. Not in the mouth, though. I kiss Basley in the mouth. Who might have talked? Well, that's...

Well, that's what you whites do, though. Y'all kiss you white. Yeah, I kiss Basley's tongue. It's all down. Yeah. No, don't say all. Not I think about it. She's caught you.

We're all as old brothers with base. She's caught you. to kind of get around a little bit. She'll jump up on the back of the couch and like snip you when you're not. In my mouth? When you're laying back? No. In my mouth?

Yeah, I don't know. I don't know how much sniping you think is going on that has never happened, sir. To bring the point all home, don't be kissing kids that ain't, that aren't yours. But if you're comfortable kissing your child. That's good advice. And don't go up to strange children and stick your tongue out and say, hey, suck my tongue. Yeah. And bring their head closer to your tongue and also put it in 4K and then put it on it.

And then also. be the high holiness of an entire fucking religion. Yeah. Yeah. Maybe. Does make Joe Biden look better for the hair sniffing that he's done. Yeah, that doesn't seem as bad.

Looks pretty chill at this point. Yeah. Sometimes you got to sniff some hair. No. No. I mean, if there's, if it's, edit, I'm joking. No.

No, don't edit. Leave it. Leave it there. If it's somebody you're dating, let them know the real you. Don't. I don't go around sniffing strangers' hair. Where you definitely sniffing hair. You're dealing with.

You're big sniff. I like their smells. You smell their hair. You look like, you'd be like, is that Garnier? Hey? You sniffed Yomi's hair when she first joined. Wow. She has a beanie on all the time.

Yeah. I've never seen her. You can't even sniff Yomi's hair if you tried to. Yomi, 100% would knock me clean in my nose if I sniffed her hair. Absolutely. Yeah. No questions asked. Just a swift elbow like this, the one I went.

Well, you made, that's a weird sniff. You got to do one. Like one inhale. Why are you? Just one. One good waft. Yeah, one good waft. Woff.

Well, that's that you have to do the longer and then then quick one. It's like tasting wine. Little sips than a longer. The savory one. Yeah. Savorily. You look like you've packed this. Is it dirt in there?

I don't know what's going on. Do we stand in appropriate relationships? Yeah. Well, in more pedophilia news, text message conversation between R. Kelly's ex-girlfriend, age 16, and her mother. Yikes. Are apparently leaked. I don't know how true these text messages are.

are, how real they are. I don't know. Was this in court? Because it says no text messages look like this incoming outgoing. First of all, let's talk there. Well, these are printed from like on a court doc. Okay.

So this is transcripts from court. Basically, the issue here is it looks like the mother of the girl is trying to get her daughter to get right for Kells. It looks like? You saying it looks like that? Allegedly. Let's be clear. When all of this came out with R. Kelly, that was one of the one thing, the things

that I said automatically was where the parents? I don't care if you tell me my daughter is in some studio right here with R. Kelly. If my daughter's in there and I feel like she's being sexually abused, there's nobody and nothing that's going to stop me from going in that building and get my daughter out of this. So I always felt like, where are the parents? When all this was happening, where the parents at? The parents must know that this is going on.

The parents must be in on this somehow. They must be okay with this. Like, you're not going to tell me that somebody has your daughter, Rory, in a warehouse. And she's saying, oh, I'm being, I'm a. I'm being kidnapped or I'm being held here against my own will. And you're not going to know where that studio is and break the door down and go get your daughter. Did you watch Surviving Or Kelly? I know there's been like 17 of them since the first one came out.

And I could only take the first season. And then once it continued, I was like, I respect the first drop. I just can't. I watched the first drop. So there's been three or four more drops after that. One, I think they actually just put out, which is around the trial and him getting sentenced. But there were cases where, yes, women were. were kidnapped, manipulated, and the parents were against it and were trying to find their children.

But there was also many cases, and it's not just with R. Kelly, that you get these momagers and these show parents that do this, even if it's not to sexualize for them to sleep with an exec or an artist, they do say this type of shit. Do something seductive than make a silly face. This happens way more with these fucking momagers than people think. Well, that was the one thing about the whole R. Kelly thing that I think people kind of lost is that parents, Parents are groomers, too. A hundred percent. Parents sexually abused their kids, too. For sure.

So I think that, one, pedophiles, no pedophiles. Sexual abusers, no sexual abusers. And I think that R. Kelly was able to have conversations with certain women and have those type of conversations, one, and identify with it because he was sexually abused. So you have a conversation, you start asking certain questions. You're like, oh, okay. So you are, you're sexually abused like I was. Now it comes to it. okay, well then come to the studio.

You can stay here. We can work on some music. Grooming. You start to create an environment where this person can become relaxed and comfortable with you and things like that because you're grooming them to do what it is that you want them to do.

From day one, I always said there's no way a parent will know or a father will know or a mother will know that their kid is in some building with some man being sexually abused and they do not break that door down and get their kids out of it. It's impossible. If you're a loving parent. It's a work financial.

You just talking about parents sexualizing their kids. There's no way you would think your 15-year-old daughter could be sexualized unless you think that way. Right. There's no way you prep your daughter to do all these things unless you're already sexualizing your children because you think someone else will think the same way. Right. So you have some pedo in you, even if it is your own kid. But Kelsa's kind of using the same and it's not excuse the parents at all. But he was like, okay, the parents like I'm setting them off with the superstar.

What he's going to do is foul, but there could be a potential financial up. side. So his sell to the parents was, I like your daughter's voice. She can sing. That looks like that's what's going on here. Be prepared. The woman tells her daughter. Be prepared to sing three songs. He'll meet you, listen to your songs. But then everything that files that after is like make sure you look sexy, look seductive, look all that stuff. So I feel like the parents, at least in this case, was willing to sell her daughter as long as there might be the potential for some financial gain. The other bigger problem here is that she didn't go with her daughter. For real. Just be in the room. You're just sending

let's say it's not even R. Kelly who we know has a history of this shit. Why are you sending your daughter anywhere with grown adults without you? And telling them to be sexy and seductive. What the fuck? But this is, again, this is what I'm saying. A lot of times, yes, we know that R. Kelly is a nasty pedophile. We got that. He's in jail.

He's serving his time. He was found guilty. But now it's time to start looking at a lot of things around the situation. Like, where were the parents? We're rolled at the parents playing this. And you're not about to tell me you have this much attention to detail about coaching your daughter to do something

and you wouldn't have done research on R. Kelly and what he has done with Alia. There's no way you just have no idea. But without even going to that, it's like you just said. You know he wants to fuck young girls that are artists. So you're sending your daughter there. But without even going to that, like you just said, why are you sending your young daughter there by herself anyway?

Like especially if it's an audition, or, you know, whatever it is, are Kelly supposed to help your daughter? Why are you not there with your daughter anyway? That's the whole point of this thing. I think you guys are failing to realize that, like, the most obvious thing, people be stupid. Like, people are really, really, like, stupid.

And not only just stupid, poor. People are stupid and poor. And that's not me, like, throwing shots or sticking up for anybody, but that's just the truth. This is out of straight, like, desperation. And people who are desperate, are easy to manipulate. And if you think R. Kelly didn't notice, the same way that people, a lot of times,

and I'm not blaming this, I'm not victim blaming, but a lot of people who are domestically abused, the abuser can recognize, ah, you don't have a strong support system. You don't have people who are going to look out for you or have your best interest in heart. So I can do whatever I want to you. And there will be no repercussions for me. There will be nobody at a gun on my doorstep because I can manipulate you and make you believe that I'm the only person that cares about you.

And I think that this happened a lot. Yes, I think this happened a lot too. So, yes, a lot of parents were wrong. They were wrong or they were stupid and informed or they were poor and desperate. But the marriage, here's news for you. When you're an adult, being stupid costs, being uninformed cost. So now if you groomed your child to go into a studio with a grown man who happens to be a pedophile, you should have some type of blame in that and some fault for that.

Yeah, for sure. That's just part of being an adult. Like, you have to, you have to wear that. Like, you were, you were stupid enough to tell your child, well, it seems like you're smart because you're trying to make sure you look shimmy form and then wink at him and wiggle and sit on his lap and all it. Make sure your lips are shiny. You're smart enough to tell your daughter, all of those things. But you're telling me you're not smart enough to go to that audition or rehearsal with your daughter.

You tell them you're not smart enough to understand that you may be sending your young child into a room with a predator. like it sounds like you're grooming your daughter to be a victim to be taking advantage of for your shortcomings because you are not financially able to take care of the family or whatever it is like you should have to pay for that as an as a parent and I agree you're definitely well versed in what needs to happen around R. Kelly like that's where I'm at with it it's that she's not stupid if she was just flat out stupid and like accidentally sent her kid to an audition thinking hey I want my daughter to sing and that's which and that was a big on That was this person is smart and knows what they're doing.

They're evil, but they're not stupid. They know what they know what to do with Archie. But that's the false. I'm saying like, that's the false pitch. He's like, yo, this could change your life, your daughter and you. Like, he knows what he's also, he's equally manipulative. He's like, okay, word, give me your daughter. And we know how strict if you watch the things, how rigid his rules were in the studios.

Like only very few people, if anyone else outside of him and the girl would be allowed in the room. So even if the mom wanted to, if he was. She was not going to get in that room. We also don't talk about how many artists do this with women of age that are also consenting. I'll put you more. How many producers and artists lie to women about what they'll do for them to fuck? Oh, absolutely. Right.

Part of the industry. We know that we know what goes on in the industry world. We know that there's a lot of this type of shit going on. We know that there's a lot of predators. And like, again, predators know they look at the prey that's vulnerable. Like Damaris said, oh, she doesn't. doesn't come from a strong family, strong support system. She lives on her own. She doesn't even have a good relationship with her parents. Those are the ones that these predators kind of go after

and aim because they feel like there's no repercussions. There's nobody coming to help them. There's nobody coming to save them. And whatever I wave in front of her, she's going to be so happy with and so just, you know, like in awe, she just wants to be around. Has a woman ever that was pursuing music and probably isn't very good, but we see plenty of women now because it is a great lick. I want to decide to rap because I have a big Instagram following now. Right. If any of those women played you music

privately from huge producers and in your head you're like that song's never going to be cleared or coming out, he gave you that to fuck to make it seem like he wanted to work. That happens all the time. All the time. At what point is that

not dirty mac and should we say that to people? I mean I've thought it in my head Absolutely. I've wanted to be like, you know, I know you're about to plan your entire next year around this record because this producer is huge. It's not going to come out.

It's never going to be cleared. But we see that, though. He purposely sent you this to make it look like he wasn't trying to beat. Well, we've spoken about this before, Rory. We've seen it all the time. You know, artists have a record and then they talk about it how he didn't clear the record.

I think that he was trying to, you know, get with me. He was trying to date me and then got mad when I didn't and then didn't clear the record. That's not, this is, that's the oldest, that's one of the oldest angles in the industry.

And it happens all the time, not just with, uh, recording artists and things like that. That happens with regular nine to fives. Right. He told me he would give me a raise. I've seen,

I've seen men do that to men. One of my favorite biggie stories is when before like shit popped off, he would do like all these verses like for brown bag money because he wasn't hustling anymore. Right. And he would just leave and tell his manager, you know, tell Puff not to clear that shit and just walk away with the bread.

Yeah. And the song would never see like, Yeah, it happens all the time. And it's fucked up, but it's, again, it's part of the game, it's part of the learning curve, especially if you don't have anybody in your corner that knows the industry and knows how this shit goes. Like, you're going to run into a lot of situations where you are taking advantage of and shit does happen and you get the short end of the stick. It's just part of it. It's fucked up. I know I agree. And what's even more fucked up about it, the person that should be in your corner, your manager, a lot of times

are trying to beat two. Now, that's a whole... The person that would tell you, hey, this producer is just doing this to fuck he doesn't like your music you haven't put anything out there's no way you're just going to get this beat from this producer like hate to break it to you he's also trying to fuck it happens i mean i mean but if you can kind of look back he's trying to manage you was his way to get in there we i mean bro we just watched we just watched i'm serious we watched irv godi basically confessed to all of that i mean i think ashanti had some talent but no no she of course she did but a lot of artists have talent but then they're in a situation where the executive producer, the producer or whoever the manager is kind of sort of like keeping them around,

like because they like this girl or they're attracted to them and it's that and the third. And if you want your opportunity, okay, listen, like, you got to be my girl. I mean, this is just what he basically confessed to, which is why everybody was on Irv's ass. Like, basically you were like, you know, taking advantage of this girl. More or less. Roy, you spent the last couple of years like the bulk of your time writing, producing and putting out music. So you're like more in the weeds, so to speak, of the.

industry on that front on the creation side. Have you seen or like firsthand or have you been like compromised or has anyone tried to pull some shit like that on you? Like someone's tried. They just wanted to work with me. Not try to fuck you. But like, I mean, I mean, I can assure you no one is not. No, not like in a sexual way.

But I'm sure you've come across some people that have tried to run like a play on you where they'll try to isolate either like a production thing or some vocals or something where someone's trying to like pull the wool over your eyes and try to get away with something. Um, there's been cases where I knew stuff may have been verse swaps in the pod world. And I ended up not working with those artists because I didn't want to do the, all right, if you work with me, we'll do an interview or like, we'll do something. And if that's starting the basis of our working relationship, let's not do this. Because I'm not about to feel like I need to put you on an interview.

And I don't want you to make you feel like you're only working with me because I'm, I can put you on a pod. If you don't respect me musically, cool, that's fine. But let's not pretend and do the swap thing here. Right. I'm just not, it's just not how I work. And I think it's fine when people do do that. Like, that's cool.

I just don't feel like doing that. I wish people wanted to work in me to fuck me, but it's usually just podcast stuff. I don't know if that's a bad thing or a good thing, but, I mean, you know, good luck. And just don't try to like tell a girl, listen, you know, I'll get you an interview. you on the pod if you, you know, give me a little pickle tickle.

Like don't do that. Pickle tickles. Never. A highlight room. Yeah. Don't do that. We mostly have men on here anyway. So I don't want to start that rumor. Do you think that the music industry will ever have that Me Too movement like Hollywood did?

Isn't that me too in general? A lot of people in the industry got jammed up. No, I know what DeMaris is saying though. It wasn't. It wasn't to the degree. R. Kelly is R. Kelly. The music industry hasn't had its Harvey Weinstein. moment that we knew was the whole thing. And unfortunately, it's because most of the women

that would come out would be black women, whereas Hollywood, it was white women. That's where I think the music industry hasn't gotten their big Me Too movement because the victims are people that society cares the least about, unfortunately. I do think some stuff is going to come out, though, personally. I think that stuff will come out. It's just, you know, again, it's unfortunate because a lot of the times, you know, I've had some talks with some women in the industry, artists and things. like that and they've told me things in confidence where it completely fucked me up because you would never know like you I had no idea some of the shit that they go through and things that they have been through and it's like you know it really changes the way one you look at

the industry and the culture that you love so much um but then it also makes you wonder how many others have dealt with some shit like that and you also kind of have to overcompensate when I've talked to ours whether it be like DM or text and hadn't them in person and we wanted to work. The way I had to overcompensate of how safe the studio space would be when they come to Link. Yeah.

Like sucks. Because you almost even look more insane if you have to keep reiterating like that type of shit. But that always creates an environment at the end of the session. Like, damn, this was nice. Like, it felt like everyone's just here to make music.

No one's trying to fuck. Yeah. Because they're so used to that happening. Right. And that's typically where you need somebody with a girlfriend. I know that sounds insane. somebody with a girlfriend saves a music space for women to feel a bit safer because you're not like that guy like oh I'm here with my girl come through yeah yeah it drops everything better music is made everyone is just a little bit more laid back like we're having female managers you know she's gonna be here like it sucks that you have to go that route right but the studio is probably one of the most predatory places yikes on earth it's nasty but it's fucked up that you're

You say that, but it's even worse that it's true. And, you know, again, you walk around this industry and you industry long enough to have conversations with certain people that you have a certain relationship with. And you will be completely surprised at some of the stories and some of the things that a lot of these women walk around with every day in this industry. So as far as the Me Too movement happening in music and then, you know, specifically the hip-hop culture, hip-r-and-be culture, is tough. I do think that it will happen eventually,

but it's going to surprise a lot of people. What might pop it off is this Freaknik doc. That might spread the seeds. Yeah. Because you know some crazy shit happening. But this is why a lot of, you know, a lot of the people that was there back then that was outside at these events,

they're kind of nervous about this one hitting the waves because we might see some faces. You know, you might start looking at Auntie and Grandma a little different. Like, oh, because it's going to be some grandmas in this documentary. Well, I think no matter what, and is JD producing this? So Uncle Luke, Luther Campbell, and J.D. J. J.M. D. J.M. D. J.M. D. J.M. D. J.M.E.R. producers for this documentary that will be on Hulu. And if you are familiar with Uncle Luke, he's not one that is scared or shy to air anything.

I was a huge Uncle Luke peep show, a connoisseur. I had every DVD. I had VHS. Like I was, I had, I had all the Uncle Luke's Freak Nick DVDs and VHS tapes in the top of my closet. Thanks. That's where you had to keep stuff. Mom, you, mom with a foundation, she would throw that shit out. Yeah. I mean, Uncle Luke, I don't want to put any smut on his jacket because nothing has ever come out.

And I think that speaks to how ill he really is. And maybe how nice of a fucking guy he is and actually how much he cares about the safety of women. Because if you know the story of Uncle Luke, the fact of him. The fact that there's been no complaints. Right. Like, you must have been the nicest guy on planet Earth. Because, see, that's, I think that that's something that people kind of lose sight of. You can have a show like Uncle Luke's peep show where there's strippers and, you know,

triple X stars and things like that on set sitting around. There's one video where, that we just talked about where he has, he got Jay doing an interview and it's two girls. My favorite interview of all the time. Yeah, like two girls. You know, I'm playing with each other. other and kissing and licking all over each other right next to Jay. Matter of fact.

Right next to them. A hove might be the only one that could come to the podium. He looks very uncomfortable the entire time. He did. But that speaks to the fact that, again, Uncle Luke probably created an environment where it was like, listen, nobody's touching these girls. If they don't want you to touch them. Nobody's disrespecting these girls.

Let the girls do what they want to do. And once you create an environment like that, listen, let the ladies be comfortable with whatever is they doing. You don't just start grabbing these girls. girls touching on these girls and they don't want you doing that. So you can create the environment to have it, you know, be sexual, but it also be, you know, consensual. It's like, you know, the women know this is what they're comfortable with.

This is what they're not comfortable with. And we're going to have a great time, respect the ladies at all times. I think this freakneck doc may get me back on Facebook. I might start a Facebook account because the, yo, this you moments that are going to be on Facebook are going to be magical. Oh, no. Every auntie that's just post fucking biblical version. starts judging all these little girls rapping about pussy.

Yo, this you moment. Her busting it wide open. Little Miss Gang bang. But then it's going to be a lot of like what this situation is right here. You see this angle. This girl, her top is being pulled, things like that. Unfortunately, there's a lot of this that was going on back then as well. I remember here in New York City at the Puerto Rican Day parade,

the year that that happened, a bunch of girls was having their bikini tops pulled off at the parade and things like that. Like, that's when the whole dynamic of the. parade changed after that year. It was like, yo, women were being sexually assaulted. They were having their clothes ripped off. They were having, you know, body parts grabbed. And it wasn't consensual. At Freaknick, unfortunately, as you see in this clip, there was a lot of that going on as well. Women having their butts grabbed just because a woman is dressed, you know, with a bikini on walking down the street. That doesn't mean that you can just grab her ass.

Well, Maul, we were too young to experience and like obviously live in this new cycle. But at the time, like, was there's people, a lot of people say, it's like rape dick and it was just ended up being a rape fest like was that the headline going around at that time honestly no and that's and that and that's the sad part because it wasn't that wasn't the that wasn't looked at as uh some rapy type shit unfortunately it wasn't now in the world we're in now or 100% like all of this right here now that this could never happen then none of this shit could ever which is why i think this documentary coming out of this time is important to show like this is what it

used to be like, this is the type of shit that was going on. Unfortunately, we're all older now and we understand what things was wrong. But at the same time, there was a lot of things going on back then that today, I'm sure some of these women see it, they're going to be like, oh, hell no. But, you know, again, in the moment and the time, you know, the world was different, the way we viewed things was different. The way people conducted themselves was different. You know, back then, it wasn't, it wasn't those type of words weren't around.

Like, we didn't look at it in that way. It was like, oh, yo, he wilding. Or like y'all bugging out. Like it wasn't like, oh, y'all just rape this girl. Y'all just basically like molested her and took all her shit off and sexually violated. Unfortunately, that wasn't the temperature and that wasn't the energy. But now looking at this footage now, this shit is absolutely crazy. But this was something that happened every year.

This younger generation is going to watch this doc with a notepad and they are going to find all of you. And they're going to contact your jobs. Yikes. And your church is crazy. No, I want to see the grand. grannies because there's some grannies in these documentaries that's going to be exposed. Can we pull up that one clip right there, Julian, and play that? I don't know.

We might be in trouble. Oh, you're in trouble. Do you all see Hulu is about to release a documentary? Are those scrubs? Is she a nurse? 94 freebie. She's in the hospital parking lot right now. Terrified?

It's like a dental assistant. Yes. They are about to release a documentary. So I'm just, now I've been to several Freakings. I've been to several Freakings. before was one that I attended. So I'm just praying that Jesus be a fence. I'm praying that Jesus just be a big,

tall privacy fence. That's my prayer. This Easter, this good Friday. Yeah, she's hoping none of that footage resurfaces. You know, I will say this, though. I will say this. Like, when they would bring out those video cameras and start recording, I immediately remove myself from the situation.

I've never, ever, ever. was okay with being recorded out here. She was fucking. So hopefully that worked to my benefit, but hopefully it worked to your benefit. You never know. So the only thing I got is if you see your girl

in the documentary, hey man, at least I'm fully clothed. At least all my clothes is on. That's all I got. You still suck dick with clothes on. That's the best I got. Yeah, y'all. Apologies to whoever's mother this is,

but yeah, you was definitely fucking. Some of us might be on TV. So get your parental controls together And I don't know y'all But honestly think about that though Like that's not That's not some scary shit Because if you know you was whaling

Like at Freaknik You know you and then where you are now in your life Like things that you have going on That could affect you in a real way Like if you have a business Or you like a real professional woman now And footage surfaces of you with some niggas from Atlanta

picking you up and pulling your bikini top off and you're married to a pastor now? Yeah, and you busting it open. That could affect you. Okay, let's think about 20 years from now. This is a very small window for one event of one year that may be a VHS camera called you. Yeah.

We now film our own dirt and put it on the internet. Yeah. Every day. Yeah. And people think that your life isn't going to change and you're going to evolve to a different person. Those four years are you busting it open on Instagram? It's not going to go away.

No, but this is, listen. But this is how much the world has changed. They were busting it open on the middle of Peach Street Street, right, for free. That's hard. Now they're busting it open and getting 100 bands a month on OnlyFans. Yeah. But at least there was some beauty in this. It's because it was a bit more private.

It was culture. I love when we hot shit of the culture. But like- I feel like women that would enjoy, I'm talking about the consensual fun side of this. Yeah. Would do this in public and it could exist, but there's too many cameras.

How are they? That's where like, it would be okay. you can't bust it open on Petring now. Right. You could then, and that was the beauty of it. I agree. How are they still, I don't get legally, how are they allowed to use this footage? Like, where did they get the footage from and how are they getting permission to clear using all this?

Like, the likeness of everyone that's going to be shown in this. That's interesting. I don't know how they're doing it. I'm guessing because it was public. Yeah, you were outside. You was outside at a public event. A lot of festivals have in the ticket clauses, like when you purchase. any footage or what you just purchased something.

No, but I'm saying. This was just people in 94. That's what I'm saying. In 94, those stipulations weren't written into the ticket purchase. You just showed up and started shaking your ass. It was just a party on the street. That's what I'm saying. Like if you go to Coachella and there's a dock that comes out and you're in it, you agreed to be in it by purchasing that ticket.

There is a legal line in the fine print that says by purchasing, stepping on these grounds, your face can now be shown anywhere we put out. That didn't exist in frequent. Nick. So how are they getting permission to put everyone's like this out? They had a sign and we didn't know. They were a sign of shit. They go and they'll put that in the video. So we're like, look at the signs. We're all over Pete Street that said.

You'll be on a Hulu dock in 20 years. No, but I think it was different because it really was just a, you know, it was just a street that was just like everybody was out there walking around. So it wasn't like you had to pay to go there. It wasn't to buy a ticket to get on this street and this festival type of thing. It was literally, yo, park over there. We're going to walk there. Peace Tree, we're going to hang out over here.

Some of us going to drive down. It was just an open event. You didn't have to pay to go there. Just go to Atlanta for that weekend. You know what I mean? And just have fun. You didn't have to pay. So maybe that's why they're able to use the footage because it wasn't like you had to pay.

It was like, you were just here walking around. You know, you had a bikini on. Like we may have you on camera. I just want to know how much of the documentary we're not going to see. I do want to know why they're specifically just doing 94. Is it because that had the most footage? Or did some wild shit happen in 94? We'll have probably had the most footage.

Yeah. Like the way they did the Woodstock doc just for that one specific. 99? Yeah. Why they landed? It was crazy in 99. That was nuts. Yeah, I do want to know why they landed on 94.

Either way, I'm going to watch it. Were you there in 94? No, hell. Did you ever go to any of them? You were too young, right, Mom? No, I went to one. Which one? I went to one in 98.

He was in there showing ass. You brought the cameras. Wow, wow, wow. Why would I be showing that? I didn't mean literally showing your ass. I meant like showing your ass like you were acting up. No, I was being a freak. I was, I was, I was young.

So it was more so just like, like, yo, this is crazy. Like, you know, I was like 17, I think. I was just like, yo, this is wild. Like, this shit is crazy. But it was like, it was fun. Like, yes, you're going to see things in this dock that I'm sure it's like, but it was like it was really just people hanging out on the strip, chilling, having a good time, drinking, music,

cars, you know, the dope boys had their jewelry on, niggas flexing. Like, it was, you know, it was just that type of thing. But it was a lot of girls walking around that looked good. And I will say this, though, there was a lot of pretty girls back. And the thing about it now, when you have events like this, all the girls look alike. They look the same. Yeah. Back then, you saw all types of different shades of women hair, complexion, shape, style.

It was just like, it was just a whole different thing. They was to have this now because now you have Instagram. Every girl wants to look like every girl anyway. I want that same hairstyle. I want that same dress. I want them same shoes. I want to have that same makeup. So you're going to have now, if you was to have this event, all the girls would look alike.

Back then, and as you've seen a doc, it was just a complete mix of all different types of women. Well, it appears, I don't know if this is a coincidence. 98, they had to shut it down. It's odd that that was the one you went to. Was that the last year? 99 was the official last year. We cannot support events. that bring mall lewd activities,

sexual assault, violence against women, and public safety concern. Fire trucks not being able to reach it. Why was you blocking the fire trucks? No, because I remember that year, they were saying like it wasn't, like it was kind of wasn't the same. You know what I mean?

Like, that was like the tail end of it. Like, it wasn't what it used to be at that time. As you touched down. Not because, I mean, I was young. I was 17, 16, 17, 17. And, I mean, you could tell it was a lot. But that's when it turned into that. And then we started going to,

we started going to Virginia for, BET weekend. Okay. We started going to King's Dominion for BETT weekend. Well, then us Greeks took over and it became ATL Greek. Was the same weekend. Yeah.

Which is, you know, Freak Nick to some degree. Yeah, y'all are some freaky Greeks. The freak Greeks. Freaky freaks. Wasn't there like a Greek Fest here? Like Jones Beach or something? What was that they used to do here? Yeah, there was New York Greek.

Like, what was it called, though? Greek Fest, Greek. It was something that they used to do at Jones Beach that was like a Greek. Well, no, it switched because they would do the step show. Greek Fest. Yeah. But it switched because even Brighton Beach one year we did the step show there. Like, it's around the whole city.

But it did start, yeah, at Jones Beach. Greek Fest, yeah. I remember Greek Fest, yeah. But a lot of stuff had to switch over to, like, barbecues. Like, our shit in Jersey is New Jersey barbecue. Like, yeah, it all gets past to different people who remix it. But yeah. Greek is a lot of fun.

You would enjoy it. What? Would I? Am I welcome, though? Because I'm not Greek. Yeah. You just have to pay. Oh, okay. So what events do you guys think will have the most lewd footage of you guys? Like, what do you think you're going to be embarrassed about in 25 years? I want to see the documentary on Howard Homecoming in the late 80s when the drug dealers were gone. Howard? Howard, DC?

I want to see that doc. I want to see the doc when Alpo was running. Howard Homecoming. Not when me and my pussy friends went down there And threw a little event That was a whole different thing You're talking about That's a whole different energy

I want to see that doc What would be another cool event That needs its own shit The Puerto Rican Day parade in New York Honestly Labor Day Before it Oh Labor Day and Brooklyn

That's a whole That's a whole violent thing That's a hilarious Yeah that's a whole different That's a Juve Juveh The Juvee doc Surviving Juve is coming

The last time I did Juvei was 2008. I did the whole night in Crown Heights and then did the parade right after. Juvei is just crazy because you out all day. You got powder all over you, paint all over you. You're supposed to go home, shower and then get out and go to the parade. No, you just stay up and go to the parade in your paint. No, hell, no. That shit too high, that paint, you start passing out.

Your paws all clogged up with baby powder and shit. A liquor, baby powder, liquor. It's just not a good idea. It's just not a good idea. Potential stab wounds. Yeah, no. The juvei doc would be interesting. I would love to see something like that.

You'll see Rory's white face somewhere in this fat footage. Yeah, you can't miss you, Rory. Can't miss you. Undercover cop in the crowd. Absolutely. What's a high top blazers on? Did you guys record Doucee Palluzza? Because I don't want to see that in 25 years.

What is that dog? I don't need my kids to see that in 24 years. No, no, no. Forget the Duce. What's the Hennie Palluzer dock on the house? I'm so glad I missed those days. Let's take it back to that. Let's go to where it started.

The Hennie Palluzer, the dock over there right there on the Hump, what's the Hump 49th? Yeah. On 49th? Well, it started 1 15th and Pleasant. Uh-huh. And then it went to the Kappa Castle over there. Right. And there was art gallery downtown Tammany Hall.

I don't know. We shot a doc. There's a super trailer that's about like 17 minutes long. Like, we shot a documentary. The trailer is 17 minutes long? Yeah, it's like a super trailer. And it was to shop around. And despite what narratives have been put out.

there, anyone that has talked about the assault side or lewd side, nothing ever happened at Ducey Paloosa. To be honest, that Ducey Pallusa Doc wouldn't be that crazy as far as footage in the crap. It was just people having fun. Yeah. There was never fights. Yeah.

There was one fight that I can remember, and it was because a guy hit a girl outside the grounds and then seven dudes beat the fuck out of them. Well, that's the only one I can remember. And that wasn't even on the grounds. It was somewhere else in Coney Island. That's one thing I can say about when you guys was doing that, that it was never no, like, drama inside. No. And when it was at the DeCapa house and all, that was like a small house for all of those people to be in in the backyard, things like that.

But it was never any fights. I never witnessed, like, a fight or anything like that. I mean, you were going to leave there with your clothes all fucked up, hanny all over your shirt and sneakers was finished. That was part of the experience. That was part of it. But I never witnessed any like wild disrespectful or any type of, you know, fights or things like that. Like that was impressive for you guys to put on an event like that with that much alcohol and nobody end up getting in a fight. And I mean, that's what we did pride ourselves.

And it is unfortunate outside of the obvious that there has been narratives put on it. But even within, and I will respect every woman's story. And I'm saying that every story had nothing to do with Paloosa. It wasn't at Palooza. It didn't meet at Palooza. Nothing was Paloza related. That's why it kind of sucks when you have a decade-long party of nothing but safety, especially in that type of environment, to have that type of smut on your name when we did damn nearly the impossible to do that.

No, I agree. And everyone remains safe. So, yeah, such as life, you know, narratives. So over the weekend, Rory, Drake released Search and Rescue. Were you search and rescuing the entire? weekend well i text you i was looking for you i was trying to figure out where you were searching for you i was i was i was searching for you pause no i wanted to make sure my my dude was i'm your kim no you're definitely not my kim but um so he released uh search search and uh when the when the the audio had leaked

we kind of um spoke about it a little bit thought it was AI didn't think it was real thought it was i didn't think it was a real direct record until we found out that it premiered on 42 sound sound 42 i'm just hope i'm not saying that is it sound 42 or 42 sound 42 sound 40s sound 42. Yeah. Sound 42. So that's when we knew it was a real,

obviously real record. So the record is out. What are your feelings? Why? I had the same feeling. I'm going to start there. Why? What was the point of this?

I just don't know. Even if it, let's just talk about everything around the record. Larry Hoover squashed it. Why are we still talking about it? No, he just did that for the mob ties. So we know what the artwork did. Obviously, people were, had their, theories about who it was with Drake underneath the helmet.

Was it Kim? You know, that was one of the, excuse me, obviously one of the bigger names. I don't think it is, but I think Drake is calculated enough to know that people will, you know, this is all, everything is, is calculated. He knows that people are like, who is that? Who is she? Who is he referring to? Who is he dissing? Who is the song about?

Then sampling Kim Kay's voice. Obviously, Fed the, Ye was using it wrong? I mean, that's crazy. Sam what your voice she was using her own? He disoamble his voice. He made the break up a hot song. And so people fed into the conspiracy theories of all. He's fairies theory.

That's what it was. It's not a conspiracy. And also in Drake's defense, even though this is, of course, supposed to look like him. Every girl looks like him. So it's tough to do out Markwork. Her surgery was a success. There goes my other point. The audio he sampled of Kim, though, was from an episode from Keeping Over the Kardashians,

where she's talking to Chris about her divorce to Congay. Absolutely. It's very specific the audio he chose. I'm talking about more so just the artwork. Because we don't know if that's Kim. It's supposed to represent Kim. We know what it's supposed to represent. We know who it's supposed to be, but we don't know is what I'm saying.

We know who it's supposed to be. Can we go back to the why? Why? Why is this song out? Why release this record now? Why is this, where is this song going to live? Obviously, Drake is not putting out another album anytime soon. I think Scorpion and then the few records on CLB

where he addressed everything, I thought, like, we just put the nail in the coffin. Yeah. They did the, even if they, we know they weren't actually friends when they did the Larry Hoover sheet, but it still appeared like, this is done. I don't think anyone cares anymore about their back and forth. And if the song was good, I'd also be like, all right, I don't know why you're still talking about it, but at least the record's good. The record's not good, and it's bringing up something that I feel everyone is kind of over. Over and we don't know, like, we haven't heard from Kanye so long.

We don't know where he's at, what he's doing. So it's just like, why now? Does Drake need a Kanye sub or a Kim Kardashian interlude to get people to listen to his music? Absolutely not. Of course not. So why? And on top of that, this sounds like a leftover from CLB. This is more so in the CLB category than it is the 21 Savage shit.

That's incredible. I had my complaints about CLB. It felt like Drake was doing an impersonation of himself. It felt a little lazy. Like he just put shit out to put it out. This song sounds exactly like that. This sounds like from the CLB time when we know he's in the 21 Savage time where he went fucking nuts. Right.

The music was way fucking better. It was a completely different sound. He sounded like he gave a fuck again. This sounds, but like we're back in fucking 2020. This is definitely one of the records that I think he had in his hard drive. And he just decided to put it out. Why? I'm stuck on why.

Like, why now, why the timing? Good Friday is when he dropped it right. We know why he did that. Right. I mean, or if you don't know, it's he knows people will tie it together. But all of that would be. Since in 2020, this would have been. I would have understood this in 2020.

Even if I don't like the song, I would have got the move. I don't get the move or the song. I just don't understand why Drake will put out a record right now when he's getting ready to go on tour. So which is why I'm saying, I doubt another album is coming because he's going on tour with 21 to tour that album. that they have together. So I just don't, I just don't understand why this move, why I put this record out. And it's just not one of your better records. It's not a good record. Like I just, I understand it's catchy. The melody, you're going to find yourself singing it just like if you hear a commercial, jingle. Of course. It's like you're going to get, remember the melody in your head. It's like a

repetitive melody. It's on a loop. So you get the melody as soon as you hear the record. But it's just, where does this record live? What are you doing with this record? What is this for? Why I put this out now? Yeah. We already have this song and it's better from older projects. Well, it's time sensitive because you obviously wanted to put it out on Good Friday. So I think that plays a big part in it. Again, why? But her, look at the ethos.

People killed our Lord on that day. But like the ethos of her loss, the entire project. I was offended not for Ghania just as a Christian. Yes. Drake being Jewish. How dare you put out this fucking record on Good Friday? Your people murdered my guy that day. Yeah.

Okay. All of her loss is taking shots at everyone. that's the whole ethos of that project he's in that mode like this isn't this doesn't skew that far out of the mission of that whole project it does it doesn't how because this record is not good i want to say because her loss is good this sucks i hate this song but it's it falls in line with the messaging and her loss yeah i think he covered everything on her loss great album great album i love the way he ended that album great song this is just i i don't know man i i don't know man But again, when you're an artist is like Drake, you can put out shit whenever you want,

you can drop whenever you want. Obviously, it doesn't matter if you like it or not. It's already over five million streams. So it's like, you know, what does my opinion matter on this shit? But I just, I want to know why. I like to know, like, what is the thinking behind certain moves that artists make? And watch us be wrong. Let's say everyone starts playing this for the next two weeks.

I mean, it's Drake. There's plenty of Drake songs I've hated it. And now I love. Yeah, but this one is just not. This ain't going to me what it wants. No, I think this stinks and I don't think it's going to be that. I listened to it like three times just to kind of like get the bars and obviously, you know, the girls already went crazy with the captions and all of that.

But it's just not one that I will go back to. Like, I'm not going to. What bars gave you like the most confused? You read between the lines on don't know how to express my love. That's why I American express my love. Not any help with that one. Do you know what he's talking about? Yeah, I know what he's talking about.

He's going to spend on this young woman because he doesn't know how to express love because his parents never kissed him in the mouth so he doesn't really know about intimacy. Oh, yeah. He never met the llama. His holiness. His holiness. Take me off the market. Take me off the map. I'm trying to hit the group chat and tell them it's a rap. That's what I'm trying to do. I'm trying to hit the group chat and tell him it's a rap.

Look at his target. You've done that in our group chat. It hasn't been a rap. It has, it's still not a rap. It's unfolded. Everything is everything is all over the place. It's not a rap. Imagine Maul hitting a group chat And just, yo, it's a rap No, I think

I think the group chat he's talking about is the group chat with all his girls. Oh, okay. Oh, okay. What of science? Yeah, yeah,

I think he's talking about getting all his girls in one group chat. I'm like, yo, listen, it's over. I thought he was talking about like hitting 40 and Noel. No.

Like, yo fellas, it's a rap fellow. Like 40 looked like he had just thumbs up in. Like, he wouldn't even type nothing. He'd just like,

all right, cool, whatever. It's dope. You think Kim and Chris got published? on this? They're not listed in the credits as far as I can see.

I mean, their whole... Well, actually, they probably don't own that audio. Yeah, you're right. Ryan Sechrest, I don't know that. Ryan Sechrest, collect him. Ryan Sechreis is a writer on this. This is his first number one. He's got the pub.

Again, I just, why? Just why? Like, why now? Why I put this record out now? Because it gets 4.6 million streams in one day. Well, it's because it's Drake. Once you attach Drake's name to anything, it's going to, Drake is like Target.

I keep telling you that. You put anything next to Drake It's gonna sell That's just what it is That we know that We're not talking about the numbers Obviously it's gonna straight The quality of the record though

The why of the record, why? You're saying it's more dollar store Than Tarjeet Yeah It's just I just you know I'm cool Like we didn't need this Like if I you know

Because you I still like when we find out A Drake record is coming Because he's just that type of artist That's just known For putting out great music So it's like okay I knew we're getting a new Drake record tonight

but then when you get that it's like my night is ruined like I can't really this ain't really this isn't what I was expecting like it's like ah man I want to give us that shit that work you put too much cut on that it's hard to say because it did 4.6 million streams and broke whatever

Spotify Easter record whatever the LeBron James top steaming hip hop record of the year was this the first flop that we've seen with Drake putting out of Lucy if this is a flop this is amazing this speaks to the caliber of this dude If this is a flop, the biggest streaming song of the year.

But we do know with how algorithms work and how celebrity works, no matter what, Drake is going to break a record anytime he puts something out. I'm suggesting with the attention around it, people caring, and the quality of the music. Is this his first flop on a Lucy? This didn't stop anything. I pay attention. And I asked you guys on Thursday, I said, wait, Drake's putting out a song tomorrow?

I feel like I had no fucking idea. There was no even real shit around it. You thought it was AI. Originally, because it just sounded like someone doing a Drake impression. It sounds really lazy. And I'm saying if you're also trying to make the moments we're putting Kim on the fucking cover from this photo, you know, the internet's going to find Kim and Kanye going go-karting.

I love that. I love that mash it on. You did do a lot of the petty shit that creates the moments that we do love Drake for with that calculated shit. I don't really care about 4.6 million streams. it felt like a flop to me. Well, it felt like a flop to me as well, only because I didn't go back to the record after I listened like two or three times.

It kind of was like, I didn't listen to it the rest of the weekend at all. It's kind of like I forgot it even came out, honestly. And that's not something that you usually do when a Drake record drops. You can't get away from the fucking record when it comes out. But it just wasn't, again, I understand, you know, there might be some secret, you know, like just type of, you know, just Morris Coat type of reason why he released this, you know, All of that type of shit. Something happened at a gas station in Calabasas.

Yeah, I'm just, just give me quality, though. Give me a good record. That's all I. I don't care about why you put it out. Actually, I do. I want to know why, because it may be able to paint a better picture. But give me quality. Let the record be dope.

Like, that just is nothing that I can go back and listen to it. What do you guys think, if at all Kanye's response is going to be? Drinks the Jew. Whoa. You think he's going to hate Jews again? Because Jonah Hill brought him back to the. Jonah Hill kind of like restored all faith. He saw 21 Jumpstream was converted, but now he might be anti again.

Damn. It's just, again, man. Anti-again. It's just funny that we got that, that crazy, dope show that they did together. The visuals was amazing. Like, it was just a moment. That was like a huge moment. And it's just funny to know that we got that moment and they still not cool.

Like, they still don't fucking together. Was it a huge moment though? No. Absolutely. No. Everybody. For about two hours, it was up. Who wasn't at home in front of their TV watching at that night?

We talked about it more before it happened. The two biggest artists in the world that we know the history that they were beefing, they didn't fuck with each other, and now they're about to do a show in the middle of a fucking a stadium. Like, who didn't, who wasn't watching that? I agree. It was a moment for about two hours. And then we realized, oh, this is fake. And no one gave a fuck after that.

And they continue to diss each other. But that's the way of the world. Like, shit only lasts. No matter how big it is, it still only lasts for like 40 hours and then went on to the next. But it should have been bigger. To your point, the two biggest artists that have been beefing nonstop are about to walk down the steps together like they just got fucking married all in the name of GDs and mob ties. And then we get Kanye doing his greatest hits, Drake giving us rehearsals for his CLB tour that didn't happen. And it was over.

Not even the merch did well. And that's always a thing with him. Yeah. People move the fuck on immediately. I don't think people even really remember it like that. They remember them beefing more than that moment. Was that moment, are we able to watch that now? Yeah, on Amazon, yeah.

Is this still on Amazon? I felt like that wasn't on Amazon after the show was over. I just felt like we talked about that way more before it happened than we did after it happened. I feel like we were extremely disappointed and let down. It's a full version of it on YouTube. Oh, okay. I mean, it was an amazing. Aesthetically, it was amazing.

the production was was crazy um the sound was a little off obviously we talked about it drake didn't do the records we wanted him to do you and i were upset that they didn't do glow we hated that they didn't do that they didn't do that they don't like each other yeah that was like Larry Hoover is still locked up this didn't work they're still beefing Hoover still locked up so this was just a flop matter of fact it started the whack 100 and j princeby yeah more beefs just did way more harm for the culture looking back at it it did

there was no peace was made this evening no peace was made the two dudes that she had the stage still hate each other I have yet to see one person wear the fly fishing boots I can't think of one thing that came from this

Don the two came and then came out a good show and I enjoyed that he put on a great show yes but Chubbs was right that's all I'm saying

oh look at Chubbs's face this entire performance. Yeah, Chubbs didn't want to be this. Chubbs like, this scene is not dead. You're like, why are we here? Like, it's still up. When in doubt, just look at Chubb's face.

He will tell you everything that's going on. Damn, this shit was that? How long was this? Drake didn't even have hair then. God damn, what was this? This was last year, right? 2021. I don't think it was 2020.

You know, Drake went to Tertz. It was like the end of 2021. All the products. Yeah. Shit. Rapid growth. It looked great, though. Definitely was a beautiful setup,

beautiful production. It looked amazing. But yeah, it's just funny to looking back at it and realizing that no peace was made and it's still on. It's still lit. I mean, even your idea of doing the I declare war show, but bringing Nas out to squash the beef was more important than this. That was my idea? Yeah, that was your idea. It was the juxtaposition.

It was like, yo, he's going to declare war, but it's actually going to be peace. You can't. And you're not going to go see somebody to say, I declare peace. Like, who's going to that show? Wack. You want to go to a show where you think, yo, these nicks are going to kill each other in here tonight. that's where you want to be at. Unfortunately, showy thought was peace

had to be called Free Larry Hoover. Listen, man, I don't know. I just wanted the song to be better. That's all I know. It didn't, I hate when one of my favorite artists released a record, and I'm looking forward to it, and then it's disappointing. It's like, that ain't it.

Did you like Black's album? I did like Black's album. I know it didn't do well as far as numbers are concerned, first week numbers, or I don't know what the second week numbers are. I've seen people talking about it was in comparison to his last album, this would be considered a flop? I mean, numbers wise, yeah. Numbers wise.

About half, but. The album is good, though. The music is good. Last album, he had a rollout. He had a single with J. Cole on a video. They worked that record for a while. That was also coming off free black, which had so much momentum. Yeah.

He disappeared for a while and then didn't do a full rollout at all. And I think LVRN, I don't know this to be a fact at all. This is really just me looking from the outside looking in. I think Elvier and tried to do a rollout with him. and Black said no. Because he was handing out roses in Atlanta for like a day. And that felt like the start of what the organic black rollout was going to be. Yeah.

And then he was like, no, I'm cool. I'm not going to any more red lights. When I pass it out of another fucking rose. When I see artists like this like Black, I don't know him personally. But when I see artists like this, it makes me wonder if where is he personally, like in his life? Like mental health-wise, is he, you know, is he feeling it? Is he just not in a space where he even cares to put out any music? And I don't know because LVRN, they are pretty good at working with their artists through

mental health and things like that. And definitely working with the artists depending on what they want to do with their project when they want to release it. But I know Black is he's not one of those artists that you see out all the time. You don't really see him. You don't hear from him. You don't see him in any headlines. He kind of stays in his own zone.

I feel like sometimes artists just are not, you know, they don't want to disappoint their fans and they don't want to keep their fans waiting much longer. But I don't I don't feel like Black was 100% into this release and this project coming up. I don't know. I think this is his best example of writing, to be quite honest. Sonically, it is more of the same, which I think can hinder him because, you know, there was no real progression as far as the type of music. But I think this is his best written album. He tells a story from a very unique perspective, not songs about relationships, but songs about actually being in a relationship.

Yeah. There's some love songs. There's some hate songs. There's some just in the middle. I don't know the fuck I'm feeling. He tells a real story, in my opinion, of what it's like to actually be in a long-term relationship, the highs and lows of it. It's not love songs. It's songs about love.

So I think it's an incredibly written album. And there could have been a way to tell that story in the rollout. But I'm with you. I don't think Black wanted to do that. I think he just kind of wanted to get this out. and leave it alone. But it is a great album. You know, numbers are numbers.

Everyone's numbers are suffering, period. Yeah, I don't... Chloe Bailey has the highest celebrity shit ever. She did 10,000 record. Yeah. Sometimes things just don't connect. So 17,000 first week is not a bad release, but when you went from 77,

but you also had the J. Cole video. Also, they counted single numbers with your album numbers at that time. So, yeah, it appears the optics that he, quote-unquote, flop numbers-wise. he kind of didn't. I do think it is a great album. I don't know if it pushed his career forward-wise.

Music, but as a black fan, some of the best writing I've ever heard. Yeah, I like the album. The songs are dope. Black is one of those artists that, again, I'm not looking at numbers. Just give me quality. Give me good music. Sometimes you're right, it doesn't connect, and it doesn't reflect in the numbers. But I think that this album, as a black fan, I'm happy with this album.

I'm not disappointed. The record sound good. he sounds good again the writing is is amazing and that's all i want from artists like just be just give deliver good work sometimes again you don't the the industry the way things are set up you don't have this big feature and then the rollout and all these things i understand that but at the end of the day what does the art sound like what does the what does it look like what does it feel like and this album is a good album i think it speaks to the times outside of frank ocean i think you maybe get a two project window to do the mysterious shit i think it passed

Black's time to disappear and not say a word and then just drop music. This rollout, I think he had to be more forward-facing, more active. Which, I mean, if he doesn't want to do that, that's his right as a human being. Oh, of course.

But I think now in these times, you get maybe one project to be mysterious. Then you kind of have to play the game a bit to get into the ether of all this shit. But then you have shit like Chloe, who had one of the best rollouts ever, and the music doesn't connect. The people just connect to the person.

They don't connect to the person making the music. It's funny because I really don't remember what rollouts were before, before you started paying attention to rollouts. They were a bit more simple because there was only so many outlets that were super effective. If you got on the radio, he was good. Go do MTV. Go do 106 in part.

MTV, TRL, 106 in part, and the album was out. Make sure you're on the front of the CD store. And the album was out. Yeah, it wasn't so much creative forward. It was just more placement. It's like you got to, like, you got to go and eat hot wings somewhere. Take a shit. You know what I mean?

You got to do shit. It's like, what the fuck does this have to do in my album? Like, you got to do so many things. And it's like, why not just create good art and then the people go get it? Well, because that's not how you're going to reach, like, regular fans. Like, we speak to the time with 50 and Kanye where, like, the quote unquote, nerd music took over the street music. That was also the time, in my opinion, that, you know, that. You had to do rollouts.

Like, it couldn't just be the regular shit. Yay and 50 created a whole narrative, did the whole, they still did, the TRLs, the 106 in Parks. That's where they did it. That narrative was their rollout. Like, they created creative rollouts. And from there, I feel people have been forced to do that. And this isn't going to be a Kanye Dick riding session, but Kanye has forced a lot of people to do things that they never would have in music. Because Kanye did it, now you're forced to have a better live show.

forced to be involved with every last part of your production, your merch, which I'm not mad at that. No, I think it's incredible. I'm not mad at that. I think all of that ties into the artists and the art that you're putting out. I just think that there's certain artists that just don't want to do shit that doesn't have anything to do with the music and the album. I don't want to have to go on this show or this podcast and do this and do that. Like, I want to create good music.

I want to put it out to the fans. I want the people to enjoy it. I'm vulnerable. Some of my best writing. you know like why do I have to go here and do this I wouldn't normally do this anyway I don't want to have to do this so that you buy my album it almost feels like a little like like like prostituted but that's where you have to get creative as an artist and unfortunately you have to play that game to some degree no matter what I wish it could be that way too but Cole we know didn't like to do that way to do that whole we know didn't like to do that way to do that way of course it's a little different because he had a lot of money at that time. But I thought the Forest Tales rollout was incredible. Let me go to fans' house.

Let me go buy my child at home. Let me do the listening session with just fans there. Let's shoot the content. I'll do maybe one interview with Angie. That was amazing, though. On my terms. But that's how you can do creative. Of course, he was in a different position because you have to be at a certain level

to be able to do that type of rollout. If an artist of lower than Black's level tried to do that, it wouldn't get much traction. But you have to be creative. sense to figure out how the rollout fits you rather than, hey, I know I'm going to go on these interviews and I'm bad at talking. I'm not going to be interested. It's going to come off worse. I shouldn't do that. We need to figure something else out. Yeah, it's just, you know, unfortunately it's, again, artists are able to make more money now. They're able to, you know,

own more of their own, their art and things like that. But there are all the areas that you have to play the game because the game has changed. So I understand it. And it's just unfortunate that some artists don't want to do that. They don't want to go that extra mile and do shit that they normally wouldn't do just to sell their music and sell the art that they're putting out. So I understand it. I get it. I understand that it's a different climate that we're in now. But it does get to a point.

I know some artists are sick of this shit. Like, what the fuck am I doing? Most artists are inherently insular people. Like, they want to be left alone. They use the music as their creative voice. That's their outlet. So, like, the same way in which not all musicians are natural born entertainers, like you're putting me in an environment.

that I'm not comfortable with because it's a part of now what you deem important the digital era. You have to. You can't avoid it. But unless you can be afforded to create it on your own, like the J. Cole moment,

you do. You have to play by the rules. That was some genius. That was genius, though. My favorite rollouts. That was, oh man, that was genius, genius rollout. Kind of a different topic, but tied into it.

Does Chloe Bailey tour? She's about to go on tour. I have tickets to her show in two, three weeks. Do you think stuff is going to start to get chopped? I'm asking. I don't know.

I don't know. I don't know how the ticket sales are doing. Where's the one you're going to? It is at Terminal 5. T5. Is she headlining? And the tickets were released before the album was released.

I bought those tickets maybe like two months ago, I want to say, a month and a half ago. And I'm not shitting on 10,000 a week. Yeah, she's not saying that's awful at all. Mm-hmm. But her celebrity compared to the numbers is a bit different. And I'm just curious, I'm asking a question, how do you take that and tour?

10K first week. I don't know if I'm ready to invest all this money when I'm going to have to start canceling tour dates. Oh, it's not too many shows. Yeah, it's not a lot. It's not a big tour. They aren't huge venues. 11 shows, mostly in April, one show in May. So, so these are all great size theaters.

I was just curious because her celebrity is so high that maybe whoever her booking agent was like, well, let's, let's go get the Hulu Theater. But these are some, the Nova, these are nice rooms, though. The Novo's a nice room, Terminal 5, the Fillmore in Philadelphia, the film on Detroit. Like, these are some nice rooms, respectful rooms, respectable rooms, House of Blues and Dallas and in Houston. The Novo in L.A. is one of my favorite venues ever. And Terminal 5 is incredible. The thing I didn't, now, I'm not going to lie. When these numbers came back, I was a little surprised, only because, you know, Chloe has been so visible.

We've seen her. I feel like any time we turn on the TV, we've seen her in the last however many months. She was just in one of the best shows of the year so far with Swarm. She just had a movie release. Yeah, like she's had, she's had the momentum. She's had, she's been, you know, visible enough for me to not expect to see 10K first week come back. But what has the focus been on? It's been on the visual, which is unfortunate because she's not one of those artists where you

have to just focus on the visual. She's extremely talented and musical. And if you stop doing these pop chasey singles that I know they're just giving her and let her make fucking music, it may connect a bit more. It's a shot of Beyonce. I'll say, I'll say, she's sad. She's heavily involved with the music creation process. Okay.

Well, I don't think it's connected the way it could with someone that is so talented musically. I think that. A lot of records feel very, much plug and play. Like, here's a single that we've shopped to other artists who has the most money, bet. And I don't think Chloe's that artist. I think she's way more talented than that.

Well, Chloe is also writing these songs, too. Chloe is writing and producing a lot of her songs. And I think she should do more of that in the singles that they focused on where the visual has been the main thing, more than the actual music. It doesn't appear like it's Chloe's pen and production the way it's. used to. Like that Chloe and Haley album, I like a lot and that sounds to me like Chloe is producing and writing and arranging everything. This sounds like Chloe is, we're trying to make her a pop star by pop star standards and let's do the exact same, not even rollout, but same plug-in play shit

we do with other. What's the best thing she has? She's getting the Normani and Tanashi treatment as far as what they're doing with her. Have mercy? To answer your question, Have Mercy was the one that she was performing all over all of the award shows. It had the beautiful video. It was like her premiere thing. But if you even look at how far that charted, Julian, if you could pull it up, I think the highest it got was like maybe 16. Yeah, but Have Mercy is not even on this track list.

No, it's not. So she released about three singles and none of those singles are on this album. So that's another thing. You know with the streaming thing, sorry, and interrupt you worry. You know with the streaming thing where if you release a single and people have streamed that single that counts toward the album sales. Not anymore, but... Oh, that changed?

Yeah. Oh, I didn't know that. That's why album sales are so drastically lower. Oh, okay. Well, she, yes. Well, at the same time, none of the three singles that she released are on this album from a year ago. How does it feel with Chris Brown?

I do like that song. And shout out to Berg and Cardiac. I think it's a great record. But I think Chloe is so much more unique than doing those types of record. The plug and play Chris Brown. It's great. And like, I'm not saying don't do that. That song is amazing.

I just think Chloe is more than that. So what I will say about the album, because I'm probably the only person in the room who has heard it, what I will say about, and I'm also a Chloe fan, what I will say about the album is it does feel dumb down. It doesn't feel up to Chloe's caliber. I feel like whatever direction her team is going with her,

they need to pick a fan base. It's okay for you to be well-rounded, and it's okay for you to have, you know, multiple talents and multiple types of fans. But if you're trying to become this pop star and you have all these pushes, we don't know who your fan base is. Is your fan base? Your age group is your fan base.

The girls who sit in their room and play guitar and do covers is your fan base, the young TikTok girls. Who is your fan base? Because I'm a fan, but this album sounds nothing like the songs that you already previously released. If you're going to be the pop dancey girlie, then give me that, but give it to me hard. Don't try to cover every bass, pause. Don't try to cover every bass, but cover them badly.

Like this, the album, I enjoy the album, but I know that she can do so much better. And I just wish that somebody sent her in a direct direction. Like you have a single called Cheat Back with Future, Future, Chloe Bailey next to Future. There's no synergy in that feature. There's no chemistry in it. And then the lyrics are, find another dude from the hood with some tats, give him what he wants, show him I could throw it back. Nothing about you, Chloe says that that's, it doesn't hit, it doesn't connect. Like, you know, so I don't know.

So you're saying they're basically like they tried to turn into this more sexy, solitary, vixen type of thing. And that's not who she is. Which it's okay, especially when you're going from like the, she's not a child actor, but like that's always how they transitioned younger artists to when they're adults. Like, she's a woman now and she can be sexy. Which is fine, but they made that her 100% identity. There's nothing else that we've gotten from Chloe since she's been a solo act and of age. That isn't, it's okay for me to be sexy, which is totally fine. But that can't be the whole thing, especially when you're more her than you are Tanashi.

And they're treating you like Tanashi. Her has a sound. We've got to know her on her shit. Yeah. She experimented with different music. and if Chloe was just some chick that looked good and could kind of sing, I'd say go to Tenache Row. She can produce.

She can make other type of music. Her last music with her sister was better and more unique than this. We know nothing about you. Ungodly Hour was an incredible album and this is a little bit of a disappointment. Do I think it should have sold better for sure? But it didn't stick out to me. None of the features have any type of chemistry on them. It just doesn't connect well.

You and Normani should not have the same rule out. Do you not think because her acting career is taking off probably at a little faster of a rate than her music career is, that they were, that was the primary focus, especially when you have to be on set for a Swarm and the Little Mermaid thing, which is a Disney bag, that this became secondary. So like to DeMaris's point. Wait, is she a little bit. The Little Burmaid is her sister.

And Swarm was probably a six-hour shoot day. Yeah, she was, yeah. But she is, she did just release a movie with Drew Skis. called praise this. Oh, yeah. So my point still stands. Yeah, so she's definitely active. So I'm just saying like is the music secondary in the sense that it's like here. It feels like that.

Put punch in, record these vocals. We'll take care of the rest. Go back. You're doing a lot in acting. Continue to act. We're really happy that that's taking off. But we need you to just do this just so we can put out this out. I would say that, but not exactly because Chloe never.

This is not, was not required of Chloe. Chloe and Hallie were in a group. Hallie went to go tape the Little Mermaid in London for eight to ten months or however long she was gone. They didn't shoot that under the sea? The East River. I thought they shot that in Orchee Beach, my brother. No, it's a different type of crabs there. Wow, wow, wow, wow.

Go ahead, I'm sorry. All you can eat. And while Hallie was recording her movie, Chloe got lonely. She started writing solo music because they used to live together. So Chloe got lonely and started writing, yeah, they started writing solo music and that's how her solo album came to be. And this was like, I want to say maybe two or two years ago that she started on this album. Like the album has consistently changed. Like I said, the earlier singles didn't even make this album.

Which I like better than these. I don't know what's going on. I don't know what to tell her team. But what I will say is that Doja Cat's Hot Pink album sold 7.9K. and Doja Cat is who Doja Cat is now. So, Chloe, we still have hope for you where... Doja Cat only sold $8,000 first week. And one of her past albums, like, two albums ago.

Yeah. Which album? I thought you meant like she cut Doja just put some out. No, but my point is, my point is saying that is that Chloe has time to fix whatever is wrong. No, no, no, no, this isn't the end all be all for Chloe. This is just, you know, obviously it's a little, uh, disappointing because, again, she has been so visible. in the last few months and she's been like on our TVs

and so I just thought it would connect with her music and her fan base but obviously it didn't. I didn't hear the album, you heard it. So I don't know if it's just the music and the fans were just turned off by the music and this wasn't who they were expecting or how they were expecting her to sound.

But no, this is not the end-all be all for that. She more so needs to go work with the Tyler's and Steve Lacey's of the world. I think she'd fare better for the type of talented artist she is working with that genre of pop R&B rather than doing the plug and play hits. That's just...

I think she's too talented to do that shit. I agree. And then there's just like some cringy, like, interludes. Like, just little shit where she's like, have you ever wondered who else is fucking your man? And it's just, this is not you. It makes me cringe to hear it.

And I'm not just saying because you're not an adult. But it's just like, this is... Nothing about your personality gives me this. Like, why are you talking like me? Like, it does not... It's not crossing over. Stoy your swag. That's why you asked.

Well, she's speaking to her fans. You. No, that's fucked up, though, because now you're going to hang her for not. I'm not hanging her because I bought her album. I'm not strange. She's trying to sound like her fans. She's trying to make her fans relatable. Like, okay, I know this is what y'all be doing and going through.

So this is what I'm going to put up on project. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. This is my interludes sound like. But if it doesn't come off authentic. Yeah. It, all right.

Remember Tori Lane's first album when he had all the interludes of him being a fucking mafia don, how unauthentic and corny did it sound? The music was really good. Yeah, the interludes were like, Tori, shut up. You're ruining your music right now. Yeah, we didn't need it.

It doesn't feel like it's, even if it could be her. Music is perception, unfortunately. And if it comes across that that's not you, it's not going to connect with the people, even if they are that. Right. So, you know, DeMaris didn't start thinking if someone was fucking her man, because it didn't feel like she was talking to someone who's man was being fucked.

Right. Speaking of man fucking, UFC 287 was this weekend as well. Shout out to, shout out to Izzy, man. He redeemed himself coming off of a loss. So Israel Addisanya, aka Izzy, he fought Alex Pereira over the weekend at UFC 287. He redeemed itself, knocked Alex out. I saw a clip of him talking with the guys from Brandon Marshall. And Brandon, he was telling him, you know,

Put $100,000 on me. I guarantee you all win. Be Marshall looked kind of like nervous. Like he didn't want to put that, put the house on it. But he did put $100,000 on Izzy in as he came through and delivered a knockout, knocking Alex Pereira out. Can you talk to your man's after that if like he loses and you lose honor. If I put $100,000 on you, Rory, in a fight and you tell me, yo, Maul, listen, I got to, I got him this time. Like, I'm going to finish him.

And I put $100K on you. and you lose, it's another fight you're going to have to have right after that. Or maybe I'm just trying to Pete Rose you. Maybe. But either way, Izzy. I wanted you to change the odds so then I could bet against myself. I got you. I left with $500,000.

And a black eye. Izzy did knock out Alex Pereira. So he redeemed himself. And I think at this point, Izzy is top dog, in my opinion. We know why you really watch, though. Yeah. Let's talk about the stars of the fight. Big 4-5 was in there.

That's why. I was waiting for him to get in the ring. That's what I was waiting for. Don Snow, a.k.a. ten toes, Donnie, was in the building. Donald Trump made an appearance at UFC 287. Him and Dana White are good friends. This is the same guy. The trans assassin in the back.

Yeah. Big Maga. Kid Rock was there. And then Mike Tyson, who we don't know. Mike just might be at events. He just put a chair down and let Mike say it. Yeah, Mike don't even, Mike don't even vote. He just at the event, watching dudes fight, having a good time. high as fucked smoking smoking some of that good but um yeah everybody was posting Donald trump made an appearance they didn't understand how he was just arrested last week

he was just indicted in manhattan was kind of crazy a week ago he's ringside and now he's ringside and now he's rinketka shi yeah listen man i mean yo you know say what y'all want this is this is entertaining shit this is this is this is the former president of united states who's now facing an indictment and he's life as usual just a regular weekend with the boys UFC 287. I just want to know what beer, Kid Rock had. What beverages were around. He doesn't look like he has a beer. He likes he has

one of those, that's Logan Paul, Paul brothers. Was it water? Is it like a sports drink? It's like Gay-Rade. It's like Gatorade, yeah. And so they didn't have any of the trans-hizer Bush. It's a straight. It's a straight. It's a prime straight white men product. Right. White man. White man.

Yeah. That's the only ones that can hydrate. It won't even, actually won't even work. Cis white men? It's designed for the DNA of a white Anglo-Saxon heterosexual males. I see that the bottle is blue to represent the pure blue eyes that must be drinking. Well, you see Don got the red bottle for the Republican. To match a tie? Yeah.

No, the master party, the political party. The tie, no. But, yeah, this was interesting to see Donald Trump out. People thought he was going to go into hiding. No, they didn't. No, nobody. We're never not going to see this guy now. Well, a lot of people didn't think he was going to be at UFC 287.

I'll tell you that. This would be the event he would be at, though. Right. I thought he was going to come out at, at WrestleMania. I'm not going to lie. Was that before the indictment? And get suplexed? Yeah, I think that was before the indictment.

Yeah, it was. But, I mean, listen, I'd like to see Trump maybe go to like a croquet game. A croquet game. Something a little softer. No, he got to go to it. Show some range. This is a man's sport. This is the man's man's sport.

He got to go to UFC. He really tweeted World War III. Yeah, from the truth app. that he is still not banned from. Okay. He tweeted, I don't know if they call it tweets. Is that the one that Kanye bought from Candace Owen's husband? Oh, he was trying to buy at one point.

I believe, yeah. World War III, whatever that means, Don. Listen, Don, we just here to just follow whatever you're saying and just have fun with it, man. We're not. No, we're not. You have to, whatever, whenever he speaks, you know what he's saying. Look at him. Look at him and Mike Tyson.

Bro, look at this man. This man is facing an indictment. Like he's just, you know what I mean? With his prime. Nasty suit. Didn't even put no steam up to the suit. Just nasty. He looked like he slept in it.

That's the same suit he addressed the nation in after his indictment. Oh, yeah. Long night. You don't know nothing about those type of nights, Julie. You wake up, you got to go to UFC. Hurry up, get dressed. Went to Mike for some Ramadan blessings. Yeah.

Come on, man. All right. With that said, rest in peace to Bob Lee, founder of Cash App. We touched the point in last episode. We were trying to see if more was going to come out. All that came out was a video that was very unfortunate to watch. I don't want to start getting in my conspiracy bag because this person obviously is a family, not to say that their family's listening to us.

I just want to know why are we able to see a guy like Bob Lee die on social media. Like, why are we able to see that? Why was he alone in 2.30? That's weird. That's the weird. I mean, yes, him dying is weird, but him being alone at that time. That's not weird? Him being the creator of Cash app or founder of Cash or whatever.

But here's the thing, because I see people going to that a lot. yes he's the he's the creator founder of cash at right however many worth how much however much he's worth this is the first time i've ever seen a picture that dude same so a lot of these tech guys that have all of this money they don't have fame you know he could walk right past them and never know that you should have fame they have fame to some much more dangerous people exactly and he does live the companies run out of san francisco he calls san francisco home like people there know him yeah and i swear i really don't want to be be the YouTube shit, but...

Nah, fuck it. Do it. They just... It did cross my mind that three of the biggest crypto people all died under 30 last year. It's very weird that the IRS is about to put out their own fucking cash out. It's just, I don't know. It's odd. It's just weird.

It's all weird. They very much could just be an accident happen or just something. I won't. He didn't accident. I'm just saying, as of right now, I find it weird. Yeah. Respectfully. Rest in peace.

and condolence is the family. This is just weird. It's not weird that you find it weird. We might not be in the know enough to know exactly what is going on, but something is happening. Yeah, I mean, you don't have to be in the know to know that something doesn't look right. Something just doesn't add up. Something looks funny. All of these guys that are big into cryptocurrency just died.

One of them actually said he spoke about him being killed or something like that and then was killed a couple weeks later. So something is happening, something is going on. I'm not the big conspiracy theory guy, but something just doesn't feel right. I'm that guy. I'm the guy when something doesn't feel right. Like something about this just doesn't feel right. Why do we see him dying, but we don't have any footage of the stabbing? Well, it may exist.

They just didn't. Yeah, I would just put it out. But also, even with like news reports, of course, I know that Donald Trump thing is going to take over everywhere, but we know whether you're a fan of Fox, CNN, whatever. They all get an agenda from the higher-ups. I feel like this has been purposely placed out of the high agenda that those anchors are given every morning. Yeah.

Where this could be a week long, never shut the fuck up about it type thing. And it's just been a quick report. Like this isn't crazy. Like the CEO of Cash App was not just stabbed and murdered. In public. Yeah, this was definitely something I thought we would have more information on by now and we don't.

Again, we just see the footage of him struggling in front of a building. He was trying to wave cars down to get some help. It's just unfortunate that his family has to see that, number one. But again, this isn't, they found a knife near the crime scene. Again, this is just not, something just does not feel right about this.

Something just doesn't. feel right. And I'm not connecting all of them. It's just odd that this is happening to people that created in tech and currency. What's been the connection between everyone that we're talking about here that has died unexpectedly from this world? Tech and currency, you figured out how to put together. Then you just mysteriously get murdered. And before we get to Patreon to discuss rock songs that black people like. I'm going to be asking you. I'm not telling you.

I mean, I mean black people. Okay. Just want to make that clear. When I say you people is what I mean. Got you. They. Yeah. This is they.

NBA playoffs about to start. I'm sure more is going to get me a ticket to the first round Cavs Nix. I'm certain of it. Right. And he's going to take me to one of the playoff games. Got you. Team outing.

Got you. Because I have Nick's fever. Go, New York. You know, no New York. I know how did you say that when I have to get you? I have Nick's fever. I felt like something. was wrong with you today. I didn't know what it was. But now that you say you have Knicks fever, you do look a little orange in the face. I have been a suffering Nix fan my entire

life. The New York Knicks aren't headed to the play. Listen, man, I say it all the time. It's just basketball, the playoffs just feel right when the Nicks are in the playoffs. I don't know what it is. So basketball hasn't felt right in quite some time. Well, no, the Nicks were in the playoffs was 2012. Yeah. And we knocked out the first round. No, they were just in the playoffs. Oh, oh, yeah. That shit was that. That was actually a good series, though. It was a good series. For who? I mean, well, not for the Knicks for the Knicks.

Yeah, that was terrible. It was a fun series to watch. It just felt good seeing the Knicks in that type of situation, a playoff environment, playoff atmosphere. It's just a better time for basketball when the Knicks and the Lakers, just something about those organizations. When they're in the playoffs, things just feel right. They feel good. It's going to be a tough two weeks for the IG baddies of New York City. The Knicks and the Nets are both in playoff mode.

Little Sister is going to be empty. everyone is going to be focusing on basketball it's going to look rough at one oak say less won't be saying anything at all it will be nothing it will be less said yeah it'll be a lot of girls nights in the next two weeks the Lakers though surprised me because about two months ago it looked very bleak for

the Lakers I thought that they were going to be on the outside looking in they managed to win some games turning around and now they are in the play in correct? I know it was they were fighting for sixth but then I think somebody had to lose for them to get that. They lost that head to head against the clippers, which was a big loss. Okay, got it.

Yeah, so they're in the playing. They play the Timberwolves, I believe, Tuesday. Jordan's never even said those two ways together. Yeah, well, no, Jordan is, you know, that he doesn't even know what a play in is. But I'm just happy that the Knicks and the players. I do feel like the Knicks can. I've said it before. I don't know.

I'm feeling like the Knicks have a chance at the Easter Conference Finals. They have a chance. I do think they'll take care of Cleveland. Second round is where it may get a little tricky for the next. It's a tough look in the second round. It may get a little tricky, but I'm on a Jalen brunch and train, bro. I feel like he's capable of leading his team. Julius is coming back healthy after springing his ankle.

The Knicks look good without Julius and Jalen, like those other guys that gained some confidence quickly. Obey Topping. The Knicks seem like they figured it out. They found their identity. They're playing team. together. I like this next team. It just feels, this feels like a year that they will surprise a lot of people and I think they will get out of the second round. So hopefully the next do get out of the

first round no first, Julian. We got to, we got to, you know what I mean? Like, I know you, I know you're excited. Take care of business first. Take care of cabs, which I, I feel like they should be able to and then worry about the second round. But the Nets, they're going home. This is just extended, they just extended the season. All right. Hardin finally has to show up in the playoffs. I think that even if Hardin doesn't show up, they're not beating Philly. I don't either, but I'm saying in general, like the Sixers obviously could go to the finals. This is like, I think, a maker break year for Hardin's legacy.

One of the greatest ever, stat-wise, he doesn't show up in the playoffs, and now it's time. He's not the player he was. There's no excuse anymore. Yeah, he's not the player he was, but I do think that. Joellen Beat is that good to where he could beat the Nets by himself. Yes. Well, he's in a good position that he's been going crazy with the assists.

So if that's all you have to do to show up to carry the Sixers, then you'll be fine. You don't have to be the scoring guy that you were before. It's going to be fun to watch, though. I think this is going to be a really, really interesting playoff year. Again, no, I think the team to beat, I think the healthy Warriors team is still. Don't sleep on them.

I still think a healthy Warriors team is still the team to beat. They're the defending champs. Andrew Wiggins is back. I just think that they're the team to beat. I know that people like, oh, their road record is terrible. Kings aren't bad. No, the Kings are bad. They're not bad, but they're young.

And the playoffs is very different. The game changes. The Kings, I don't think that they have anything for the Warriors. I think that they're just happy to be back in the playoffs after, what, 15, 16 years. So I think that they're just happy with that. But the Warriors, in my opinion, are still the team to beat. But either way, the playoffs start next week. The playing tournament is,

this week tomorrow uh well tonight tonight sorry you're listening to this is the is the playoff the playing tournament begins who do the next get if we win the first round Celtics or Sixers I believe they would get the winner of philly Brooklyn okay I believe I believe I don't think they see the Celtics or the bucks until the lack of be wrong but I do think a nice little subway series I don't want to see that series I'd rather see them play Philly If you were doing the subway series from Yankee Stadium to Shea Stadium, you have a lot of time when you're in. Right. That was great, though.

It's a long train ride. But that was a great time, though. The subway series? It's like two transfers. That was great, though. I remember that. That was fun. That was fun to watch.

The Yankees in the Mets was fun to watch. Just want to note, it has been recorded audio and visual that Maw said he will get me tickets to one of the games. All of us. All of us. I can't guarantee that. Wow. That you're on your own. You're going to have to text them all on the side.

But he did say on camera that I would get a ticket to one of these Knicks games, been a suffering Knicks fan. Everyone in the city, I'm glad it's happy, but you guys weren't there when we were suffering. It feels good, man. I'm not going to lie, it always feels good when the Knicks in the playoffs. It's just something about just seeing the Knicks, one of the nights on TV in a playoff atmosphere.

It's just something feels right about it. You all jump ship to the Barclays. I've been at the garden. Who? Chilling. A lot of people jump ship. You know what Katie. and Kyrie lose over there.

Damn, it was Katie, Kyrie, and James at one point. Hove, I don't want to see you at the Garden. The city's under new management. I didn't forget. All of you that were Nets fans, shut the fuck up. Oh, talk your shit. A suffering Knicks fans.

Talk your shit. Forever. Talk your shit. Y'all back in the playoffs. I haven't been happy since Jeremy Lynn. That shit was hard. He stopped Asian Hay. No, it's only happy for a week.

And that shit was over with. You know what is so cute about this? It reminds me of like, you ever see your friend whose man always like disappoints her. But like he does good for like a good two months. And she's like, yeah, we're like back on track. And I really think it's going to last this time.

And I just really don't want you guys to get your heartbroken again. Oh, no they're going to lose. Yeah, see, that's what you don't understand about Knicks mania. We're not delusional. Yeah, Knicks. Like women. They just want to talk their shit one time at the table, get their shit off. But they know it's going to end.

Demaris, my level of delusion is at least he didn't hit me today. Wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow. I'm a Knicks fan. Getting to the first round of the playoffs is, hey, he didn't smack me today. Wow. He came in and just went straight to sleep. I'm at the level. He said good night.

I'm at the level of you just don't understand him, okay? Oh, man. That's bad and good at the same time. I'm at the level of at least he's a good father. Yeah. The Knicks are good fathers. No, they're not. They come around with, like, ice cream and sneakers every like.

No, they overcharges and don't win. Yeah. I think they get out the first. first round. I'm ruling for the man. I'm ruled for the next, what? Two times? We beat the Cavs the last, what? Two times? Three and one. Three and one. Three and one. Three and one. They won the first matchup. We won the last three. Yeah. So we'll be there.

Courtside. Mall's going to have my feet on the hardwood. Hey. Hey. Hey. This has been another episode of the new Rory and Mall podcast. We'll be back in a couple days to speak to you. We're going to sign off now. He's feet right here. Oh, my God.

I'm going to sign off now because my hands get tied for me. Oh, we need mic stands. Oh, yeah. Never thought of that. Yeah, we need to find some, even though the, you know, or mine. Or the other producers. Or the one in the closet over there.

We'll find some, find some mic stands to. The only person in the closet. We'll talk to y'all soon. Y'all be blessed. I'm that nigger. He's just ginger. Peace. No. I'm Daniel Alarcon, and this is my friend.

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