New Rory & MAL - Episode 177 | Young Thug & Gunna’s Combined Roll Out

Episode Date: June 20, 2023

Happy Juneteenth! We start with our perspective on the holiday. Rory is fresh off his first Father’s Day, which leads to a conversation about stepfathers. Demaris doubled back on Pergola, while Julian pulled up on Eddin’s DJ set. In bigger news over the weekend J. Cole is part owner of the Charlotte Hornets. Quavo and Offset are seen publicly together for the first time since the split. We give an update on the shows we are currently watching, The Idol and Black Mirror (spoilers). Meanwhile, Gunna officially comes back into the music scene with his first album post RICO. Listen for our review of the album and our theories behind why Young Thug is releasing this weekend. Did Killer Mike release the album of the year? We discuss Doja’s single and the potential her new sound will lead her. It’s time for voicemails! We return with Ja Morant’s suspension. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoicesSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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I'm sitting the cleaners through. I'm bailing I saw with that thinking it's all with you niggas. I see my move They set me down Like I went out of space Now I gotta go back to the moon Okay, I'm gonna show you guys A text message?

You're gonna show me a text message? Uh-huh It happened Who is it from? We're rolling? Well, yeah, white girl. That goes without saying. That's like shame.

We're starting this episode Is this black mirror? Yeah, like that's Yeah, like what is that really saying? All right, you ready? If I got a text from my name. I need all of your honest opinion on this. Now it's a combo.

Sure. Happy Juneteenth. With the, with the white hands. You said, okay, so she says Happy Juneeteenth. Julian responds why She says what you mean why

WYM Y why You text everyone happy insert holiday You said I don't Jueteeth is also different Let's start with number one I hate people that just text on holidays Like you can scroll through And the only time they text me is happy Thanksgiving

Or Merry Christmas per year I just think it's funny that this white girl has The white palms saying happy Juneteenth as a praying Number two Why is what you're doing She thinks it's a Muslim holiday It's the most pandering shit like don't be like what do you mean why you don't no i don't and you know what this is what do you mean

why i'm texting any white person this and as someone that uses the white emojis because of my pale skin is she that olive color or is she white i hate when white people try not use white emojis not she just came back from toulon there you go so she got low tan that's all that is i hate when white people use the yellow person emojis too why yeah like the middle one yeah like no you're white just be white go further down there's no your shade go further down there's no your shade go further down to the left. Like you went too far right. And she really used these hands. Yeah. Like, I've only seen Mali use that emoji. And Shala, right. And J. Electronica. Yeah. Word. What if she

did the, that? That would be fucking hilarious. Like the Democrats? With the white here. The white hand. The white hand. Black power joint. I should respond with the photo of Pelosi doing the. But does she even like know the history? There's no. A white person saying Happy Juneteeth is actually fucking nuts. Can we pull up the picture? when everybody like in Congress, like warlike, like, like, Kentee Prince and got down on one knee. Yeah, I know what else is like. You felt seen though that day, right?

I did feel a little scene. I felt like, I felt like for once we were being represented the right way and we were seen by our political parties. I did. And they kneeled, thank God. Yeah, because if they didn't, and it's- something about coming to work for a white man on Juneteenth is really not sizzling in my spirit.

I was going to ask you guys that, but then I was like, well, I mean, Maul said you had to come today. Yeah. I mean, this is mall's fault. Yeah. 100%. I've had a rule that I'd like to implore on Juneteenth. White people should work double, like overtime with no pay.

Okay. And at some point throughout the day, you need to pick an acre of cotton. Just throughout the day. I like the first part. Find a way to just go pick cotton somewhere. You're not, we're not giving you the acre. You have to go out of your way. I don't know if that sounds like slavery.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. We would never. I think we're trying to get past that. We would just sit at home. them like get drink mint julep yeah and eventually harvest all the kai and and take the money that you would have made that day no i want the full experience i want to whip them you want to whips worry how you feel about that uh i think i'll be sick that day uh oh i'll use my one sick a day on the day off yeah crazy i think i feel the sniffles yeah i come in i wanted to support mall

on a celebration so i appreciate that support mall i just love how much harder white people go on these holidays to like just show that they're not racist yeah Yeah. Does that guilt hits a little more. Yeah. It's, I even, like, got emails on Friday from people, like mass emails just to let everyone know our company will be closed.

Nice. Like, all right, man. I get it. You're incredible. I'm jealous. I'm jealous. You're recognizing. You're observing Juneteenth.

Okay. It's just the announcement that just gets a little weird at that point. Well, happy Juneeteenth, uh, to all of our listeners and all of our supporters and our family. Our black listeners. Only our black listeners. Only our black listeners. Happy Juneteenth. I agree. Hopefully there is no alternate side parking in effect today in your... Oh no. That's the quote of women in your neighborhood. Getting close the end of the month. Fucking crazy. It's funny how like in New York, that's a New York conversation. Like, yo, is it, I got to move the car in the morning? That's only in New York City do we ask you to listen to that. Like, yo, so for Juneteenth, do I got to move the car?

Like, that's the only time you know if it's a real holiday. Like, you're like, I got to get up and move to car in the morning. I think so, fam. I think you gotta get up and move that shit. I mean, do black people listen to 880 or 660? They always tell you the alternate side parking. Yeah, they always. They start with that. Because that's what people really want to know.

Do I have to get up and move the car? If not, okay, it's a holiday. You know, you can sleep in, you ain't got to be scared that you got a ticket or you got a boot on your fucking car. I mean, it is funny, though, that white people do get Juneteen off as well. I mean, they made it a holiday. Exactly. Like, if you really break it down, they made it a holiday.

Yeah. So then they... Not for good reason. Not for good reasons. So they could take a day off and pretend to acknowledge. We get it. Thank you. So nice to us.

But like it's about them. It's always been about everything's always been about them. It's not about. Fuck us. Well, did you continue the conversation with that young lady? No, that was the whole exchange right there.

It's kind of similar to like when the white execs that signed drill rappers and take their publishing post black squares and say we can't work today. You remember that? Yeah. That was such a weird thing. And I got killed for saying how nasty it was. Yeah, that was crazy.

Boy did I look like the most racist human being in the music industry when I was like, This is bullshit. Yeah, this is bullshit. That was, because they took it like you were saying you weren't supporting, but you were calling it out like,

this is not real support. You're not working today? No, maybe give a black artist's publishing back. Maybe that would be a really... If you really want to help out and show that you're for the people. Yeah, you just want a day off.

Yeah. It's weird. It's weird. But whatever, man. Hopefully you didn't have to move, you did, you didn't have to move your car and you got some extra shoot this morning.

Alternate side parking was suspended. All other parking rules are still in the fucking. Oh, yeah. Thanks, Biden. They should only give tickets to white cars. How would they know? To white cars? But if I'm a black man with a white vehicle.

That's just weird anyway. That's kind of funny. I like that. You can't be a black man with a white vehicle. Why? I mean, why? It don't look right. Have you seen every rapper's Rolls Royce?

Yeah, it don't look right. That shit looks crazy to me. We're avoiding the real question, though. What? Julian, will you still fuck that girl? Yeah. Look at his face. We're missing.

We're avoiding the real question. Are you going to fuck that girl on Junete? He will. It's a get back. It's a get back. I'm claiming one. That's for, that's for us. I'm doing this for us.

All right. That's how you feel? But if you're gonna fuck it, you gotta at least like, you gotta like at least, you gotta whip her. Like, you gotta get like a belt and like let her hug get. That's probably her king. You know, I'm gonna say that's probably her king. No, that's the thing. Like, slaves weren't into getting whipped, so you just got to do it anyway. Definitely not a

kink of theirs. Yeah, that wasn't a kink. Like, it was just like, yo, it's not you're not working fast enough. Like, just violator? Yeah. Do you feel like that when you're getting had from white women like reparations? Because I felt like that before. On cars, that's white. You can't really see the details, the lines, the curvatures, the, like, it's certain things you just miss out on by a car just being white that you don't. Like, you can have two BMWs, same model, same

thing. If you have a black one versus a white one, it's going to look like two totally different cars. I think with specific cars, though, like a white Ferrari's kind of iconic, white and red Ferraris. Because of Frank Ocean. Yeah, but if you pulled up in a white Ferrari, right, and I pulled up in a black Ferrari. I think the white Ferrari specifically, I think the white would look better. Any other car? I don't know. You crazy?

I'm not talking about Toyota. A all black Ferrari? No way. Those old white Ferrari is a fire. A white Ferrari looks better than a black Ferrari. No, I think it would look better in color for. Red is a color. Yes.

But I'm just saying if he pulls up in a white Ferrari and I pulled up in an all black Ferrari, there's no way you're not looking at a white one. I'm looking at the white one. I'm looking at the white one. Yeah. Because it's a little more rare to see. Like, well, that's also like if you see a fucking albino walking down the street. You're going to look.

And Jordan Belton. That's the white Ferrari though. That shit was clean. I hate that. That's a great movie. Yeah, but he was a white man. And? If he was a black man falling out of a white Ferrari like that, you'd be like, ugh.

I don't know. Was there any black people in the Wolf Wall Street? No, and that's another question. That's another topic I want to talk to you about. How can we were not represented in that movie? Michael Jordan had a black Ferrari. Who? A famous black Ferrari.

Definitely had white women in that shit. You got a black one, red one. Come on, man. That's MJ. Don't do that. This is his famous one, though. Yeah. Look at that.

thing. Classic. Well, anyways, moving forward. Don't get a white Toyota. If you want to get a white Ferrari, have a blessed. So over the weekend, well, first of all, happy Father's Day of Rory. Thank you. My first Father's Day. Your first Father's Day. And I was thinking about the holiday, because you know on Valentine's Day, girls tweet that bullshit. Like, every day should be Valentine's Day for your partner.

Yeah. I kind of want to flip that. And I feel like every day should be Father's Day. Good luck with that. You feel like you should treat your father the same way you treat them on Father's Day. every day of the year. That's right. So, you know, I got a balloon. Well, y'all start.

I want a balloon every fucking day. That's a number one dad. Where they sold a million up. A lot of number one dads out there. Oh, nothing but all dads are number one. Classic coffee mug. Yeah, you know how that shit goes. And that must get weird if you have like a stepdad.

Yeah, because it's like who's number one? Yeah. Who's more present? Damn. I mean, I win just by default. There's only one dad. Yeah. Did you y'all have stepdads?

No. No. You have a stepdad? Are you closer to your stepdad? your real dad? You know me say yes. That happens a lot though. Okay. I don't want to dig into Yomi's family. My heart dropped. I was a little nervous about what you were about to ask me. I want to go further and ask like why, but I don't think that's any of our business. Something about you makes me think you don't think stepdad's are hip-hop, but we don't have to get into that. Step-dads is, I'm ready to say

hip-hop was built on the back of step-dad. Try out to step-dade. Absolutely. I had a really nasty African him a body joke that I'm not going to make. Yeah, no, please don't. But step dads, if you have a, like, because I know people that have stepfathers, and I know, like, they're real dads and their stepfathers, because we've known each other

long enough. And there's some really cool step dads. Like, I like, there's nothing like a really, I mean, there's nothing like great dads, period, but like a guy that's willing to step in to a relationship with a woman that has kids, and he doesn't make it weird, he has a great relationship with her kids, and

like, that's, that's a, that's a, that's a, that's a, takes a different type of cool dad. How do you make it weird as a stepdad? Because some men step into relationships with women and they don't try to have a relationship with their kids like that. They can definitely wear. But I will say some of the most tear-jurking YouTube video are the ones where... Sorry that you had to go through that.

The kids like come with the paperwork to be like a fish. If you want to cry on YouTube, just watch the stepdad's become like legal dads. Oh, when they actually be a legal dad, yeah. Onions everywhere. But why I did say that is I don't think you would be a stepdad. I think he would That's funny

You think? Yeah I love kids He's getting to the age I think he's gonna have to I think mall would I'm getting to I'm gonna have to

I think mom would opt to how infancy baby phase How am I get today's when I have to? I'm not throwing shade As you get older More women Your dating pool gets older And it's more likely

That's 303 and even My age you're kind of close To the stepdad area You're not gonna change a diaper What? Why not? Of another dude's kid? No no

Not another dude's kid No I'm not the diaper of another man's child. But you said you'd be a stepdad. That could be... Yeah, but I'm not... But how long... How far are we... Like, how close are we in, like, where you just had a kid by a dude and now I'm with you?

Okay, pull-ups where sometimes there's an accident. Okay, mom... Your mom is right there. Wow. See, God damn. I'm not changing no diaper. See, I said I could be a good stepdad. I didn't say I was changing no diapers from a kid that ain't mine. I'm not changing another man's shit.

All right, what are your nose? Another man's shit. It's a baby, though. Changing the father. It's a baby. It's a baby. They're not breastfeeding the father. Yeah, but that's his kid. That's his DNA coming out of that baby.

Okay. What if he unexpectedly passed away? All right. She made it a little more difficult. You gotta do it. If the father's dead, then yeah. What? That's the rule.

Yeah, he got to be dead. But if he, like, down the block chilling, don't get that nigga. I'm not about to change the diaper. He had the Yankee game. Get the fuck out of here. But then I could see. The Knicks is playing.

Go get your real father to change his shitty ass. But then I could see you having a real issue with your girl having her ex and baby father in the crib chilling when you're at the Yankee game. What? I didn't say in the crib. I didn't say in the crib. So where are he supposed to pick the baby somewhere to change it in the street? Yeah. You know how you got, you got joint custody?

Like he has the baby some days and then she has the baby some days. So the days that she has the baby. Yeah, the baby shit and I'm there? Yeah, no, you got to get up. You got wake up. Okay, so mall's not going to do that. What else is on the list of Noah's for you as a stepdad? I'm just not changing no diapers as a stepdad.

That's really it. Yeah. What about bringing to picking up from school? Oh, no, that's good. That's regular. Sports activities. That's cool. I'll work on your left hand with you and all that.

Okay. Yeah. But I'm not changing no diapers for no kid. That ain't mine. Or like my family. Like, if it's like a niece or nephew or then, yeah, I'll change. But if it's another man's child and he's like actively walking through Harlem. Go get that.

Why? What if it's the first cycle for her at age 12 or something? And you're watching her at the time. Your girl is out. At the dad is somewhere. 12, she can watch herself. No. What?

Well, you're in the crib and she has her first period. Are you, like, nod to the shit lead to your mom get back? No, that's mommy. That's mommy daughter things. Okay. That's not. Have you ever about tampons for what movies were? Or pads?

Of course I have. Okay. That's a weird stereotype that men don't. Yeah. It's weird about that. I don't know. No, they just don't get the right one. You think if I was right.

Yeah, we just don't get the right one. If I'm making a target run and shoddy like, yo, I need some, yeah, like, which ones? You know, now they send you the picture of the ones that they want. Okay. That's usually, yeah, you don't say what size? It's not size. You know, Julian. They're not size.

Some heavy flow. What depth? It's not, some heavy flow is talking about. It has nothing to do with your pussy. It has to do with the flow. It's the brand, the flow of the peripheries of heavy. If you have a heavy flow, they have ones that are more protection. All right, how much cotton, fine.

You just shouldn't be a stepdad is what we're saying. Like, I don't want to be a stepdad. You wouldn't be a stepdad? I would, if, if, to the thing we were saying, saying if I wore a stepdad, I would change the kid's fucking diaper, yeah. I can't see Julian do I want to be a stepdad? No, I can't see Julian I don't, I come from a

I don't think a woman would want a step like the do she's dating to change her kids like if it's not the real, like I don't even think a woman would want that. Not if she wants you involved with a child's life. If she took the steps for you to meet the kid, eventually you would get to that type of phase. But I'm saying, if you're dating a guy. Not just you like walking in the crib for the first time.

For the first date, you know, you'll change my change this diaper. That's crazy. Change this diaper while I finished getting ready. Yeah. Yeah. Get the fuck out of it. Get the fuck out of here. Ain't no nigga doing that.

Show me the nigga. Get him on the line. The first nigga that ever changed a diaper on the first date. I would feel so uncomfortable. Are you crazy? What you doing? No. No.

No, I've already would do that. Now that you're dad. Now that you're dad. That's a boundary that we haven't even. It's a first date and you want me to go touch your child. Yeah. Like, what the fuck is that? I don't even want to hold your kid on the first day.

I don't know you. That's what I'm saying. A lot of women. Let alone your child. Right. Like a lot of women, I'll change her diaper. Like the woman's, all right. You know what?

That's another story. You'll change your diaper. Oh, for sure. Clean me right up. But what I'm saying is, right, how long do you have to be dating a woman that still has a kid that's in diapers before she says, hey, can you change his diaper? I would say six months. Six months? I think it varies.

For average. I don't think there's a real time stamp on that. I don't even think as a dad, like if that was my kid, I wouldn't want no other dude changing my kid's diaper. I would be furious. That's what I'm saying. I wouldn't even want that. Like as a father, I wouldn't be like, yo, like, you got your new dude changing my son's diet.

Daughter, hell no. We're not even going to, we're not going to even have that conversation. I'm killing everybody. I've dated women with kids that wanted me to meet their kids. And the first thing I'll be like, is their father okay with this? Like, that's a boundary I don't fuck with it at all. You can't play that game. It's been there saying.

That's what I'm saying. If the father's like dead or like locked up, you know, you know, know, then that's a little, you know, and I'm seriously dating this woman, then okay, but I wouldn't want no other man changing my kid's diaper if I'm actively like out here, I'm at work or something, and me and this woman are no longer together. Like, oh, where's the, where are you at? Why are you not changing his fucking diaper? This is going to sound problematic. Even if he's a shitty father, I'm still going to ask, is he okay with it? Like, if he sees his kids once a month, I'm still asking the girl I'm dating, is he okay? And does he know that I am meeting your children?

Yeah. I think that's important. Yeah, I think it's responsible. It's a respect. level I don't want to be around someone's kids whose father's not okay with that. Yeah. That's just causing problems for everybody. It's causing problems for sure. Yeah, but that's the one needs, that needs to be a conversation anyway though. I'm about to say that's the woman. The woman has to, she, that's her job to clean that up. Yeah, she has to play the middle. She has to make sure everything is like on both sides, like, with the real father of the child and like, she has to just make sure that all of that is like. A lot of women do not do that. I've seen some. Oh yeah, women play games. Because women are awful,

human beings. Yeah. But no, it was a good day. Actually, actually. went to the James Blake, Tori, and Steve Lacey show. Yeah, how was that? It was great. Went to Forest Hill Stadium, felt like, you know, a real rich white person walking through the tennis courts on the way there. I forgot. I always forget how nice it is over there.

By far, one of my favorite venues in New York City. But, you know, they looked out for us. They put us in one of those fucking little sweet things, which thank God because there was nothing but TikTok kids everywhere. Oh, Steve Lacey was pissed. I totally understand why Steve Lacey walking. out of his shows the amount of times that he did. And I didn't even stay for his show,

but I felt for Tori Amoy and James Blake, I don't want to put this on his jacket, but as someone that can be shady and sarcastic, he was shading that crowd the entire performance. He had started with the record Say You Will, which I love. And he was trying to get the crowd to start singing it with him. It was like the third or fourth song, just get some crowd participation.

And he said it, got it, got no response he was like no we could try it again say say you will and he's there uh yeah i see it's those steve lacey fans in the crowd today and then just went on with the record oh yeah that's shade and then at the end of his performance he was like well i'm done guys you can enjoy your steve lacy song yeah that's shade was that shade to the crowd or just steve lacy i don't think i thought that was fire i thought it was incredible that's not a lacy disrespect i think he was shitting on the no yeah he's definitely shitting on the steve lacy ticot fans i don't know if it's shitting off I know it's like he's acknowledging like I know why y'all are here.

But it's just so fucked up because if you look at that lineup with Tori, James Blake and Steve Lacey, the real Steve Lacey fans, they all share a cool fan base. So that show in Forest Hill Stadium could have been incredible. But instead you have a bunch of fucking 11-year-olds that dragged their father on Father's Day to stand there and wait for him just to perform bad habits so they can take their phone out.

Right. So I feel them. I never seen Toro live. I want to catch him live. He was at, I think he was at S-O-Bs one night. And I think we were out of town and I was mad. But that was one of my favorite artists and I've never seen him live. He's really, really good live.

He kind of changed his appearance unless I've been out the loop. I've never seen him wear a hat before. When he came out, I didn't think it was Tori Moore. I thought it was another opener. Then he started singing. I was like, wait, he has a beard now. He's wearing a hat. Like, this is a whole different human being.

Yeah. But his performance was incredible. Hearing so many details live was so much fun, even though the crowd was just like, all right, we can't TikTok to this. Yeah. But it was great. The staff over at Forest Hills is by far the best.

I don't think I've been to that venue. No, Drake and Wayne did their show. If he went to the one in New York, that was at Forest State. I didn't go to the one in New York. Oh, you probably went to the one in L.A., huh? Yeah. Figure, figure.

But no, it was a good Father's Day. one of those holidays that no one like really says anything to you outside of your immediate family like no one's walking around like in a happy holidays type way so I was hoping someone be like hey you a father no are you a father like you're glowing today like happy father's day you have a dad look about you like no like a drink yeah yeah no no really young still oh thanks he was really young you don't have to say it with that tone why did you say it with that tone why did you say with that tongue. Yeah, it looks young.

I'm aging okay. Yeah. You look all right. Compared to what, though. He doesn't look like New York dad age. What is New York dad age? I look at my age. They're just not, because y'all doing that thing that you do with LeBron.

You're making LeBron stats for Rory. Like, LeBron has no triple doubles on Halloween. What's your old else? I don't do that. I look younger than the average white 33-year-old. What does that mean? What does a New York dad mean? Better.

I feel. I feel. Yeah, I mean. Like, if I saw better on Father's Day, I would be like, happy Father's Day. say. Yeah. Which is funny because no one wish Benner a happy father

day. No. The only person that got a happy father saying the chat was Rory. Because Rory's a new dad. And I was like Aaron has fucking 10 years of happy father. Yeah.

He's like a father's day bet though. Like it's kind of like His daughter is like a month older than a month. But that's a second one. But that's a second child. Ray's like 15. Like yeah.

And I'm under the impression that this will be the only year that will actually matter for Father's Day. Yeah. The amount of text messages I got. You got about three more years. No.

No way. I think it was just this first. one is where people cared and even didn't really care that much, just sent the text. No, I think you, next year that's not even happening. I feel like Father's Day gets cool when your kids get like of age. Yeah, I agree. Like when they get like older. When they can get the fuck out the house?

Yeah, like when I got older and like it became like my job to make sure my dad had a Happy Father's Day. Like I go hard every year. My siblings go hard. And then all of our friends wish him Happy Father's Day. What did you get for your father? This year I took him on a picnic. I gave him cash.

Nice. His cash? Yeah. No, it was actually mine this time. And I gave him cash. I gave him a card. It was a Trump card. And it said,

it said, make Father's Day great again. And then you open it and Donald Trump says, happy Father's Day, Dad, I love you. And then on the inside it says, Father's Day isn't fake news. And I put $100 on it. He loved it. Look at Trump.

You mix that up with Maw's card? No. My dad's a Trump supporter. But, yeah, he loved that. Your dad's a Trump supporter? Yes. Yeah. See his face light up?

Yeah. How come you never told me to? I guess. Now you're his workwife. There you go. He took my title. That's all the... Might be his real wife now.

Your dad is a Trump supporter? Yeah. Have you ever had that conversation with him? He's... Yeah, he's a Trump supporter. He's all for tax, bro. He's a real... A real...

That's the only reason I'm a Trump supporter. Fuck you mean. Yeah, when you start making a certain amount of money, yes, it makes sense. Oh, you want to save us our own money. I'm voting for you, sir. That's all it is.

Wait, I took him out of a picnic to Fort Green Brooklyn. Oh my goodness. They was. They was outside, more. Oh yeah.

Everybody was outside. Fort Green on a Sunday, especially the day before 13th. They were outside. Curlfest for real. Yeah. When is Curlfest again?

Because I don't want us to miss that. We definitely got to make sure we had curled. But Julianne, I saw that your dad was in town? No, he wasn't. Oh, you were just posting old videos and shit? Yeah.

I called. They were, it was cute. My parents linked up with my aunt and uncle and they did a brunch together just hung out. I vented one of my dad's some money. They were here a couple weeks ago.

We did the whole Broadway show. My mom's birthday's near Father's Day. We did all that. And then you came to the studio and bought your friends here and drank all of our shit. I brought my parents here. So mom drank all of our shit.

No, we thought about this weekend. This weekend you brought the hose. There was not a single woman in here. Don't worry. That's even worse. Me and Rory got cameras put in here. Don't worry about it. Watch the tape.

And first of all, that's not hip hop that you just drank waters with the fellas in here. First of all, you said you were going to come here. you didn't. I said maybe on the way. Wow. I was tired. Because Rory agreed that he wanted to go see Ed and DJ. That's so. That would have been hilarious. My, to my friend, well, one of my friends who Edden knows. The Clint's? No. No. He's, uh, he's, uh, he was, though.

And we had some drinks here. Uh, and then went and watched Ed and perform. Yeah. And then how was it? It was great. I had a great time. Where were you at? I was at the Delante. Oh, okay. Yeah. Not the Die. Yeah. Yeah. That was fun. Some good memory. were they in there? I don't know. Julian, were they in there? Nah. It's not really Julian's type. So they were in there.

Too many women of color. Yeah, they were. There's a lot of Latinos there. He got pulled up by one chick. My flowers. Like, she was like, I want that one and like, got, and grabbed them. I was on a stage with that. Women are predators.

He's a human being. So look at you right in the spirit of Juneteen slavery. Yeah. You were up for auction. Wow. That was crazy. I didn't see him. I didn't see him going that around.

Imagine if a man did say that, though. Yeah, you can't really do that. Pointed it said, I want. that one. She kind of and someone heard that. She basically

what she did. I was dancing like on stage. It was packed. It was packed them out. So I was on stage with Ed and there was a fan up there.

I had a little more space. She just points and I was like close enough to her. She just grabbed me and pulled me down. And he was locked in for like maybe like 30 minutes.

I mean it was cool. Well I mean why why I did want to go is not to see Ed and DJ. Wow. But just through my research purposes of going out

on Father's Day night, you tend to find those because, you know, they don't have fathers. They're outside for a reason. Yeah, what is wrong with this motherfucker? There's just a specific group of women that go out on Father's Day. Yeah.

What is wrong with Joe? A lot of women searching for father figures within men their age. They hit the streets heavy on Father's Day night. Yeah, they're in the clubs for real. So, I mean, you know, that's why I wanted to go out. That's sick. You got to hit the streets. If any woman that's out clubbing on Father's Day,

yeah. Oh, man, the sex is amazing. Oh, my God. What is wrong with y'all? And it's already a rough day for them to begin with. Yeah. They're looking for companionship. I have a father.

I tried to go out the night before Father's Day. I went out the night before Father's Day and tried to go out the night of Father's Day. Yeah. Went out from the night before Father's Day and you tried to go out the night of Father's Day? Yeah. Remember when DeMaris says she doesn't like to go out? Right. I've been in a social mood.

Have you guys noticed? No. Yeah, ever since Cardi said your name, you've been in a social mood. We noticed that. You've been outside. I like social Demaris. She's cool. Perg.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Gola. Heavy Perg. Perg. Harry Purr. They call a young purg.

It's the name of her doc. The purge. That's funny. Well, shit, there was some topics. I'm glad everyone had a good weekend. Yeah, it was a good weekend. Some stuff happened. First of poorly, the most, the most major news over the weekend for me, in my humble

opinion, Jay Cole becoming part owner of the New Orleans. It used to be. Who wrote that? Charlotte Hornets. Who has New Orleans Hornets? Did I say New Orleans? Well, they were, they did a quick bid, I think, in New Orleans.

Yeah, look a few years out there. But Jay Cole is now part owner of the Charlotte Hornets. A major, major, major move. That is a major move. That is a major accomplishment for Jay Cole. You know, that's, that, this is hip hop. This is the epitome of hip hop right here. Kid growing up in Charlotte, North Carolina,

well, not Charlotte, but in North Carolina. And now becoming part owner of, of the NBA team there since Michael Jordan sold his stake in the Hornets. This is just amazing, man. This is just amazing to watch Jay Cole, obviously a huge basketball fan, played professionally last year overseas. And now as a part owner of an NBA franchise, I think this is something to be saluted.

Jay Cole is one of those dudes that, you know, he moves silently. He stays in his own lane. He's not really, you know, one for all the attention. the notoriety, but he does things like this that just shows you the type of things that he has going on and the type of moves that he's trying to make. And yeah, this is just major, man. I was so happy to hear this and read this article about this acquiring that he did. Shout out to the whole team.

I don't know who else is on the ownership team of the Hornets. Does he put himself on the roster now? No. To me, that'd be hip-hop. I mean, buy the team and then now I'm playing the. Owner, player? That's probably never been done before. We've seen the player coach.

Jordan, didn't he have something with the Wizards? No. We've seen the player coach, but we've never seen the owner player. You can't own and play. That'd be a conflict interest. I feel like he had some stake in the Wizards, then that's when he went to the Bobcats after he retired. I think he had...

Bobcats was Charlotte. Was he the GM of the Wizards? No. There was some type of situation with the Wizards when he put himself on the team. He drafted Kwamey Brown. Like, he was the one that drafted him. he may have been

I think he was a part owner but this could be false information he had something to do with the front office but I don't think he was part owner because once he retired that's when he did the whole Charlotte Bobcats thing he was a VP of basketball operations oh as well as a minority owner

all right so yeah oh but then in 2001 he came out of retirement to play so giving up his head yeah so why he was playing he didn't have no no role there other than a player. But yeah, because you can't play and have a front office, but that's just a

conflict interest. Well, what do you think, I hate to word it this way, but it's kind of the only way, what do you think Cole does with the culture of that franchise to make it cooler? I think for what I think is that he's definitely going to start with more community things, for sure, in North Carolina with the Hornets. I think now a lot of these, you know, these young kids coming out of college in high school, because you can go straight to the G League now out of high school, you don't even have to go to college. I think that, you know, that will maybe incentivize more kids to want to play for the Hornets because they're all fans of his. There's no kid that's in high school or college right now that don't know who Jay Cole is. So I think that it does a lot

just for the culture of the Hornets. It changes the culture. It makes it more relatable. They now know a person that's in the front office as far as ownership with the team that looks like them, that they're a fan of, they listen to his music. So, So it just makes them more relatable, you know, and it makes them more cooler. They now have a cool card with the younger, younger demographic. Not that they already didn't with a lamello ball there. He obviously is changing the culture of the Hornets. But now Jay Cole being in the front office as a partial owner just helps further that.

And I think the Hornets are, they're just a few pieces away from being a contender now. But I think that this is a real good start for them. I think this is obviously a change in the right direction for them. So this was dope to see. It was great to the offset in Cuevo coming back together for takeoff's birthday. It looked like they threw something at a park or someone's backyard. Both there looked like they're getting along. So that's at least good in this terrible scenario.

Yeah, I mean, it's still a very fresh wound. Obviously, they had their issues before the unfortunate passing of takeoff. So, you know, I mean, if anything is going to bring us together, it's unfortunate as it is. It's funerals. It's, you know, memorials. And then obviously it being Takeoff's birthday. But I hope that this is the start of them mending their relationship. And who knows?

Like we don't, they probably don't show it. Don't make it public. They probably have hung out and, you know, kicked it and have been together more often than us just seeing this one picture of them together for Takeoff's birthday. But I do hope that they are in a better place as far as just their relationship. because, you know, that's part of healing. And, you know, something as unfortunate as takeoff being killed, part of healing is mending those relationships with people, knowing that life is fragile.

Life is, you know, it's short. And if you have any grievances with people and things like that that you love and that you want to move on from and get past, like, it's important to, you know, try to patch that up and move forward and heal together. So for the whole family, too, because, you know, that's got to awkward. Yeah, it divides because then people, People feel like they got to pick aside.

And that makes a third. You can't grieve as a family anymore. Exactly. Exactly. Especially after the rumors. We don't know what really happened at the Grammys, but that audio did sound pretty nasty regardless of what the truth is. Yeah.

To see them at a spot together chilling, I think is incredible. So, well, happy birthday to take off. Happy birthday to take off. Still, unbelievable, man. When you think about that whole situation, you know, him being taken like that and so unexpected, so unfortunate. it. But happy birthday to take off. We've been putting it off for two weeks to let the listeners know that we were going to talk about idols.

We're at episode three now that aired on Sunday evening. We've already been told by HBO it's a limited series, which I don't think they fucking planned. I think this shit was just going to get canceled. Have you guys watched it? I've seen the first three episodes that came out. After the first one, I kind of thought it would pick up. I thought it would, you know, I thought it had potential to be a really good show or interesting show. After the third episode, I don't know, man.

I'm kind of not, I'm not there yet. They still haven't made me a believer that this has a potential to be. The thing is, it's HBO. I think that's the thing. Like, if it was on another network, maybe I could be like, okay, cool. But when you have an HBO series. Yeah. Max.

It's like, you know, you're thinking that it's supposed to be a certain level, a certain story, a certain, it's just not, it's not, it's not, it's not, it's not, it's not, it's not, it's not, it's not, it's not episode one, I kind of seen people saying, oh, it's okay. I was like, yeah, it's the first episode, let's give it some time. The level of cinematography and how it shot is definitely to HBO standards, but the storyline in writing is far, far from it. Yeah. Like, this is very much.

should be Hulu with commercials. As far as the writing and storyline is going. And I don't know if they're just taking too long to kind of get to it. Spoiler alert, it's a cult by episode three. But it's just like, it's not even good manipulation.

And I know in episode three, that was kind of their whole point that manipulators and people that joined cults are hurt people. And the leader of the cult focuses on what, broke you the most and pretends like they're fixing it. And that's what gets you into the cult. And it's disguised as this is a safe place.

He's getting away all the quote unquote toxic people that have ruined her life before away from her so she feels comfortable. But it's like for HBO, it's too obvious. Like the entire script is the most obvious shit ever. And also not really believable. The biggest artist on earth. because she's a

she's not playing a Rihanna per se but the stature of what a Rihanna would be right is who she is so in the first episode I was like oh this could be kind of cool you know the way Dave or Atlanta has tied in the music industry to a scripted series this could be cool

but from more of a euphoria standpoint as far as the storyline this is just this is just the weekend and his friends fucking hurt women it's like it's it's a weekend it's a weekend album but like narrated worse how much of it do we feel like is the weekend acting versus re-inacting he's so fucking bad at acting yeah and i like you know how

i feel about the weekend i love music all that shit whoop do you do great act great musician he's he's put out statements where he's like you're supposed to hate tet tetra's whatever his name is you're supposed to hate him he's supposed to be a really unlikable career i get that but being unlikeable doesn't mean you have to be a fucking shit actor. Those are two separate things. Which was surprising because when we first heard that the weekend was, or Abel, was taking this role, because he, and through his music, he jumps into character and walks around like that for like months at a time and character based around the album, I thought that

this was going to be like easy. It's not that The Weekend is a bad actor per se. this role is just too difficult for an inexperienced actor because it's such an obvious cult fucking storyline so much of his presence should be creepier like it's not the dialogue

even down to like Heath Ledger with the Joker even when he was saying nothing you just felt because Heath Ledger was such a great actor the fucking creepiness just seeped out of him the weekend is in a bad Steven Seagull wig and it's just like get away from my bitch yo And it's just like so much, that would be fine if he was an experienced act.

This role is too difficult for someone that's not embodying that character. He just looks like some guy with a wig and then gives awful lines. If he just had a creepiness throughout the entire thing, like when they're shopping in the third episode, it's terrible dialogue, but a great actor could have just made his presence in that store a thing. even at the dinner table on the last scene I don't think it was terrible acting but he just delivered lines okay that could have been a creepy scene

and it wasn't and Johnny Debb's daughter is actually a pretty good actress so when they play off each other it's really awkward Lily Rose Depp yeah it's again to your point I think yes that has something to do

with the fact that the weekend is not a great actor he could be a great role but this role is this character it maybe just wasn't. Do you need, you need a method actor. Yeah.

For a role like that, for this series to make sense. Like, they put so much on the weekends plate. To play a cult leader, like, you gotta be a different type of actor. Do we know how many episodes is in the first season? Or is in the season?

I don't know, but generally speaking, HBO series are about eight episodes. And maybe, it still has time to get better. I'm going to watch the entire season. I'm not one of the people that hates it that much,

but they have to like start really making some changes at this point. Like her just getting on a record with his friends is not where this is going to pivot to a good series. Looks like there are six episodes actually. Okay. I understand you have to establish what's going on for the first three episodes and maybe it could change in the fourth, but nothing is really progressing at all. The only thing that's progressed is that we know she's about to join. this cult and the cult members are here and they did the most obvious dinner scene ever of how

someone gets into a cult like it was too obvious so i don't know where they're going to go with this if she's going to ruin her career of course it's just everything about it is just falling into well i know it's about to happen yeah so they have to have some type of curveball in this for to save this entire series and it can't be focused on the weekend yeah no did you are on on strike so like they can't like listen to you guys's feedback and like edit and all of that stuff oh no the season is over they're way past really yeah yeah that shit is shot years ago she's over this this series to me looks like what the writer strike looks like even if even if the writers weren't on strike when this was happening to me this would be a perfect comparison of what the

writer strike could lead to beautifully shot series that have awful storylines and dialogue because this is shot tier. It looks great. Even the intertwined shots like it's a great music video with horrible dialogue. Yeah. There's no great writing in it. So, I don't know. Did you finish the season of Dave?

I finished Dave. I'm ready to jump out the window to say it. It belongs in a category of best series. Yeah. Within the genre of hip-hop. I don't know if you get a better show. I have Atlanta up there.

as well, but... It kind of feels like Atlanta. No. I thought that maybe season one, they're two totally different shows. There are different shows, obviously, but when I say feel like it, because Atlanta, to me, was such a great show. And that was that story from that culture versus Dave. It's both shot well, it's written well.

The acting is great. Some of the guest appearances are like, you know, cool. When I say it reminds me that, that's what I mean just as far as those terms. Obviously, two totally different stories, but I'm with you on that. That Dave series is incredible, man.

Well, Dave is what Atlanta could have been if they, like, stayed super literal, if that makes sense. Like, Dave is an actual story of a guy going through the music industry trying to make it as a rapper. Where that is a theme in Atlanta, Atlanta tries to and does a lot,

which I think turned a lot of people off I enjoyed how much they went left If they would have just stayed on the way they did with season one With Paperboy trying to make it I think But I'm glad they didn't do that though I'm so happy Yeah hell yeah

The fucking thing ended and you found out It was just your boy Lekeef In an ayahuasca tank Yeah Because throughout the show Like there was flying cars randomly Like they went from reality And not reality through the entire time

Whereas Dave is straight shot This is what the rap industry in LA is like So that's where I think they differ but this day the day shit is incredible I can't say enough about it it's made me love little Dickie he's dope though I like him

I never cared for him it's not I mean you're not gonna be banging Lil Dickie records but like he's he's talented super talented he can rap he has skill

and I didn't care for his talented raps this show I'm a fan now like I'm a fan fan I think you are incredible yeah this is this is it You're hilarious. This is what we want.

You're an incredible actor. Yeah. You had fucking, your season finale is with fucking Brad Pitt getting murdered. Like, that was why. How many people on earth can say they did that? Right. Like that's where Dave, to me, is an indifferent category now just within the space. Yeah.

You got fucking Brad Pitt to die while he was trying to make a rap song to then tie it into the metaphor of the entire season of you trying to find love. And he died by a bow and arrow. Yeah. through the heart. Brilliant. I texted Rory because I was watching it. I watched it before Rory had. And I texted him and I said, oh, shit. Like, there's a Brad Pitt cameo in this.

Like, when he first is shown in the beginning of episode. And I texted where I was like, damn, like he's about to have like a bunch of A listeners and this is going to be like one of those. And then Brad came back. And I was like, oh, this is like Brad's episode. Like, this is about him. Yeah. And then obviously they came to the house and the rest of the episode takes place in the house.

I was like, oh, like he. I don't say carries because everyone did their part but he's a strong part of this episode he's the whole thing Yeah it wasn't like just a little walk by Yeah He has a hard out in two hours

That's all I thought it was Was the gap on set and like deuses I was cool nice to see him Yeah no he was that was He gets killed He was in that episode It was like in like entourage When Michael Phelps would bump into somebody

Like oh that was cool Yeah Meanwhile the whole episode Is fucking Brad Pitt now Yeah Yeah That girl whoever she is That actress that played the derange fan

killed that. Smoke that role. Just the scene in itself because obviously the budget clearly went up with this last season. That last episode would tell you that.

Yes. Drake. Yeah, you have Drake and Brad Pitt in the same. Yeah. Even though Drake was clearly on a green screen and it's fine

because his scene was fucking hilarious. To tie in an entire season that was about you trying to find love, you couldn't find it, the girl you liked, you ended up trying

to fuck the other girl because she was more famous which means you think, all right, do I want love or do I want attention? You then made love to a sex doll in a sensual way that worked for some reason on TV. I would have wanted to turn that off. It was fucking hilarious. And it lands where

the season is just you were just wanted Drake's acceptance. That's it. You were in love with Drake. Because he's penning a letter at the end and you think he's tying the whole season in of he needs self-love and he was penning that letter to Drake and just wanted Drake to love him.

I think this, I'm looking forward to the next season. It's better than Black Mirror, I'll tell you that much. And y'all say that. I can't believe that. I didn't start the new season yet. I binged pretty much the entire season except for half of the last episode through the weekend, because I love Black Mirror.

Pretty fucking disappointing and maybe another metaphor for the writer's strike, even though I don't think this was during the writer's strike when they did it. That's fucked up, man. Because I was really looking forward to the season of black. I watched all of them. The first one...

It's not it. The first one, it started out good. I can't... It's not bad. I can't lie. I'm not here to shit on Black Mirror because I loved it for years. The first one, awful...

What is it? Jones's awful. Joan is awful. It's great. Premise is cool. Really good premise. Very much Black Mirror. Very much comedy-driven as well,

which I like when Black Mirror sometimes gets in that bag. After that, it gets really lazy. I'm not that good at predicting shit when I'm watching shows. I predicted every single thing in this entire series. It was that obvious. That's unfortunate, man, because I like Black Mirror. The first one, it's worth it. The rest, if you're a fan of the series, give them a shot,

but they're not. They're really underwhelming and super predictable. And they start out, like, giving you so much hope because you know Black Mirror for what it is. Right. So even there's one that starts out with a Jesse from Breaking Bad. These two astronauts are in space like fixing the world or some shit.

And they develop this thing where you could go into a pod. Shooting down balloons. Roy's synopsis is hilarious. You want the actual thing that they're doing? They're saving the world, no? There's a technology developed where the real version of yourself

is up in space. Meanwhile, a altered version, a prototype of yourself that's not human, lives amongst the earth with other people. Your actual mind and conscious can go into a machine version of yourself so you can live with your family while you're actually up in space.

Started out great. And then they tied in the Manson family into it. This guy goes down to see his family. These people break in because they want to stop this technology. They think it's going to be harmful. So they burn his actual machine body and kill his actual family. And he watches the entire thing. So now he's back up in space and can't go back down.

because his prototype body shit was burnt. His partner, who also has a family, is like, yo, you could like borrow my body for like the day if you want to get some fresh air. Immediately, I was like, oh, he's going to murder that family. And fuck the girl. Like, it starts out so good in every series and then it just becomes the most obvious bullshit ever.

Like, how would you not see that that guy's about to murder your family? Oh, that's fucked up. And then the whole crux is they can't, literally can't coexist without each other. So even after he murders his family and comes back into the spaceship, he can't react or kill him because they need each other to survive where they are. So then they're just now together just floating into space, both with no families or nothing to go back home to. And I don't think we're giving spoiler alerts because within 15 minutes of every single one of these episodes, you're going to know what's going to happen. That wolf shit was so

fucking bad. Speaking of Atlanta, shorty from Atlanta, who I love, amazing actress, she's in Deadpool as well. it's about paparazzi's and she gets a photo of this guy cheating on his wife with a dude and he kills himself because everyone finds out he's gay so she's like damn I shouldn't be a paparazzi I'm really ruining people's lives this girl's about to go to rehab she stalks her and gets like the drop and then she just turned into a werewolf and it's like all right man no I described that exactly how it happened no it's

she gets sent to like some retreat and then she's chained to a bed. Some holistic shit. I was on board. I was like, they're going to save this season right now with this one. Some holistic science shit. We're going to get the illest black mirror ever. Oh, she's a werewolf? All right, man. Moll.

The doctor leaves. I'm fucking out of here. The doctor leaves. The doors locked. The paparazzi chick breaks into the room. And then there's like, there's the, you're seeing the good side of the paparazzi and the bad. Two guys go in and immediately start flashing and getting their photos because they want the shot was worth a million dollars. to see her. And if she's vulnerable and looks like shit, it's worth more.

So they were in it for the bag. The home girl, the protagonist was like, we need to free her. So she's like trying to break the chains loose. In the skylight, the moon passes. It's a full moon.

As soon as the moon goes full, she starts like, what the fuck? Where did this come from? It goes from one of the best black mirror setups ever. It was so bad. To the worst fucking teen wolf movie

you could ever see. Yeah. It was so bad. Wow. She killed everyone. except the main girl at the end. And then she takes the camera, which proves that she was not healed

and was in it for the money. It was awful. It was so fucking bad. I will say you didn't finish you yet. The last episode is my second favorite because there's, it's called Demon 79. The black guy,

the actor that plays the demon, carries it. He's really funny. He plays like a sarcastic. He's supposed to represent hell. And basically the problem like this girl has to kill three people before midnight or else like the apocalypse is happening. So he's walking her through it. He can see into people's future. He's like, you should kill this guy.

He like touched a little girl. Like kill him. So they're like justifying it throughout the episode. Never mind. I did see that whole one. That one wasn't bad. He carries it. Yeah. The black dude. He's fucking amazing. I don't know his name the actor. But that was dope. And then, you know, it has a very black mirror ending. That one's worthwhile. The middle ones are trash. And even like. I don't know if I want to watch it. Can I ask, I won't spoil this one, the one where they go to Belgium or Denmark. Oh, God. Did the mom go out like a G though? She did.

She was ill. She was cold. I respected how she killed herself. With the mask on, I'm talking about branding. Yeah. She was incredible. Yeah, that was hard. That was probably the best way to kill yourself ever.

That was like, if there was, that was like the most literal no stone left on turn. I feel like we're not spoiling it because we're, within the first 15 minutes of them telling the story of the murderers, I was like, oh, his fucking mom and dad are in on this. Yeah. No one knew about it. All right. Imagine you're just like torturing human beings for like your whole life and that's your shit.

And then your husband who was like your partner in sort like torturing dies. And he's a cop. So you kind of have to like give the game up. Your whole crew just goes down with the torture. So you try to go back to be like a mom. But during the torture, you played this character with this mask the whole time. son gets the drop on everybody she puts the mask back on

and hangs herself and leaves all the footage of her and the mask just killing everybody and now she's branded for life there was like fans watching the fake doc with the mask back on she was cold okay she was like I'm not this mom this old woman that you guys think I am

I'm this bitch that was fucking and killing she was like Gila Maxwell yeah she was raping killing everybody with this little fucking New Orleans mask on, more or less. It was like a Arnda guy.

Honestly, that probably was modeled after some Epstein shit. Even though the people they were killing and raping, they weren't underrated. There was tourists that were coming into

like the small Scottish town or wherever they were and they were just kidnap them and torture them and rape them and kill them. Like that was their whole bag. Why did that girl bleach your eyebrows? To be like Dojiket.

That's what I kept asking throughout that whole series. Why? Outside of this being the obvious story. But I didn't hate that episode. Why did that girl make her eyebrows blonde? She matched her asshole.

She was black. Oh. Oh, yeah, that changes everything. But yeah, check out Black Mirror. But outside of that, music did come out this weekend. I did binge a lot of TV. I watched a reality on HBO, which is about the girl that leaked the information

about the Russians fucking with our election in 2016. It's got the girl from Euphoria with the good tits that showed them. Sidney Sweeney. Yeah, come on. Why this girl do this? Oh, that's a Doja. She low-key. Yeah. She looked surprised for the entire time.

Look at Doja influencing everybody. But yeah, did you guys check out reality or know about it? No, I didn't see that yet. I want to watch it, but I haven't. I'm a fan of Sydney's. It's a, I bet you are. It's very dialogue-heavy-driven. Like, don't expect any climax in the show.

Like, if you just want to watch, watch her and two FBI agents talk for an hour and 45 minutes, be my guest. What's she wearing? She's fully clothed. Fuck, her. Yeah. Big audio book. But besides that,

a lot of music did come out. Controvert. Controversial. Is that you say? Controversial. Controversial music. New music did come out over the weekend. Should we start with Gunna? Let's at least start with the response of Gunna before we get to the music. Okay. There was debates

on people not listening to this because of that video and then there was it almost felt like it was the divide of people saying morally they couldn't listen to it and then other people saying they want to listen to it

just to spite the people that said they had morals for it. Like there was plenty of people just trying to make social media jokes to get in the mix which was great for Gunner because I'm sure his first week sales are going to be nuts

because people that probably wouldn't even click this What do you think he does first week? Two? Some 200? I'm going one 10 No I don't think he does too I don't think he'll get two I think he'll do

120 okay I'm gonna go 115 so we bet in and whoever goes over loses If you guys got him I was gonna maybe I'm low ball and I was gonna say like 80 85 I mean he didn't have like a single

going into it yeah that's why you say that because he doesn't have a single going to do that the single put out is decent but like also you got to think about like no features there's no real

It doesn't feel like there was a big push. The music's great. I love the album. But it just doesn't feel like it was... Well, that's why I'm saying, like, 1.15, 1-20-ish, because I feel like once it came out, I feel like people listen to it and they liked it,

and now everybody's talking about, like, yo, this album is really good. What did Dirk do? 170? Okay, then I'd take mine back. Yeah. I don't think he's going to pass Dirk. But only because there was...

1-24. Oh, no. That I completely take back what I said. Well, I thought he, they said he did one, upwards of 170. I think I have, then I have Gunna around like, yeah, 110 maybe. 110 final answer? Yeah, 110. Which is still great, especially with what has been said about.

There's plenty of people that was like, oh, it's over for Gunna. He's finished. Never put music out again. He's only been out for a little bit. He's already put out a project that will likely go number one, at least for hip hop. But what did you guys think of the actual music, despite everyone just clicking it to try to find the shots at QC and baby and Doug? I was never worried about before all of this happened. I always felt like Gunner made really good music.

I felt like he made better songs than a lot of his peers. He wasn't obviously as, you know, probably not as talked about as his peers. But to me, when you listen to his songs and his project, the music was really, really good. And obviously that probably was in direct correlation to the fact that Thug was probably right there with him, who has an incredible ear and makes great songs as well. So obviously some of that he got from him. But, yeah, to me, always made good songs and good music. I wasn't worried about it. I was more so worried about the relationships.

How many people were going to step away from him? how many people weren't going to work with him. That's where I thought it would affect him at. But he still has this, seems like he has his core, the producers that he used to working with. Weezy was the only producer that kind of stepped away from him. Yeah.

Yeah. And people were talking about that. They was like, you know, they didn't really, they didn't seem like that affected him at all. But, um... You could also say some of these records were probably done before he went in. I'm sure. And they were signed off.

Yeah. Maybe some producers didn't even have, at that point, an opinion in it because we're already clear they were paid signed the paperwork for this release so that could happen as well but I'm with you that was the one thing I was thinking because that

Atlanta scene is so tight but also so much politics within it that Gunna would be fine but it's gonna kind of be Gunna on his own yeah that's what that's what I was concerned with but I mean I gotta give we gotta give Gunna some respect and and some flowers

here because you know even through all of that. Like you said, some of these songs are probably already recorded. But the fact that he was able to walk through that what he went through and, you know, everybody expressing their opinions and views on them publicly to still get in the studio and put together this album, which to me is a really, really good album. Sounds great.

I mean, you got to give them, you got to tip your hat to him, man, because not a lot of people would be able to focus and kind of lock in and make this type of music and make this good album. with, you know, knowing how a lot of people feel about you turning their backs on you, calling you, you know, a rat, snitch, and, you know, we're not fucking with you. You feel like you don't have the support that you once had from people that you were close to. So it says a lot. It says a lot about gun.

It says a lot about his ability to just get in, lock in, and make good music. My favorite part about this project is that it's 45 minutes. This is just going to be my old man opinion. I like the young kids, but I can only take so much of it. Full albums is usually where you lose me with the younger generation, because I can only take so much of that auto tune when people rap. Like, it's great for verses. It's great for a few songs.

But like, when you give me 18 songs of that tone, I start to lose my fucking mind. Yeah. So I like that it is concise in that regard. There is a lot of repetitive shit. I think this is some of Gunner's best writing. though. I think he was really has a great way. And with this, but

there's a lot of repetitive shit. He's saying a lot of dope shit, but because it's in the same flow every time and to some degree very similar sounds, it kind of goes unnoticed because I'm just talking for me. Old man, I kind of zone out because it is so much repetitive. It's kind of like you in a trance. It's the same sound.

Yeah, but what's so crazy is Gunnick is actually he's writing for real. Like a lot of those other kids that do that, I understand that is just for melodic shit and you should just zone out when you're walking, driving, whatever. I feel like it takes away from how dope gonna is

when he just stays in that pocket. Like take the tune off for a second on certain, especially on some of these like deeper verses and some of the stuff that, you know, people are pulling up and putting on IG. I'm like, damn, I didn't even catch that gun to set all of that in there. And that could just be my old ears.

I'm sure these kids' ears are trained for that type of music so they can hear it better than me. Yeah. But as someone that was excited to hear this, because I do like Gunna, I was scared it was just going to be super repetitive. I think we just missed out on a lot of the dope shit he said because it's tune after tune after tune. Like change the settings for one song, please. Yeah. The one thing I was looking for is if from Thugs account they were going to tweet something about the album. Like I was waiting for that.

Well, they did post something the night of Gunna's album. That was a Bar Cove and it just has a timer. Yeah. For when his album, Businesses, Business is coming out. Yeah. For when, uh... Do we have where the timer is at right now? I believe it, it's, I think it's this Friday.

Oh, yeah, it's coming Friday. It's this week. It obviously got picked up a lot, Gunna supported it as well. So there's like a... We're still not that weird in between of, like, well, people don't, don't know what to do. Should they still hate Gunna? But like Thug's cool with Gunna.

So how do we actually, how should we feel about it? It's like people just want to be told how to feel. You should just think for yourself. That's where I was going. Yeah. Like, you should just enjoy music. Especially when you have nothing to do with any of this. Yeah.

Like you're a fan. You should just enjoy the music like you've been doing. And stop trying to make it so personal. Well, what do we think? Because Doug is one of those artists like a Wayne or how like Pac was where they record a million songs. Yeah. So Thug putting together a project

Even when he's been behind bars was I'm sure he could put out six albums The way Thug records How much of this do you think he did on the phone? Does he address current things over the phone? Do we think this is just all music That Thub was sitting on? Maybe I'm wrong

But did I read that he had access to the studio? I wouldn't be surprised. Some federal prisons have that But I think Thug being Public Enemy number one to the state of joy Georgia, I can't see them giving Thug that, especially like you got people trying to sneak perks into court. Like, I just don't think Thug gets the privilege of a recording studio if there is one.

And something tells me the jail he's in, in Georgia. That would cause a lot of problems in jail if there was access to recording equipment. Yeah. Because that's just going to be more extortioning. Like, people fight over the phone. Imagine a fucking microphone. I can just see that getting super messy for a prison. So if he does his shine shit and wraps a few records over the phone,

I think we'll get some current topics and maybe some answers that all the people that don't know how to feel yet will get. If the album does come out this coming Friday. Yeah. And just because we have a podcast, does that say anything about his relationship we're gonna? Kind of. If he keeps going on the album.

even if he keeps going on the album Um Has he been supportive They've been supportive of each other No I understand that but The week Has thug been supportive? The week after

The next week After your album comes out I'm putting my album out Yeah it feels a little I don't I'm not looking at it like If this was Jay and Nas We would be like I

I'm not looking at it like a step on I'm looking at as a smart business decision Especially because they're both under 300 For what? For YSL? Yeah. Gunner's not a part of YSL. No.

No, this came out on YSL 300, I think. Gunner's album? I'm not saying Gunners. I'm saying for Thug, this is the perfect time for him to put an album out. This on Apple Music, under exclusive license to Young Stoner Life Records slash 300 entertainment. Yeah. So I could definitely see Kevin Lyle saying, all right, everyone's focused on what Gunna said about the entire thing on this album. Let's put out the next week.

Let's put Thug shit out because everyone's going to see if there's a response. It is good time. It's going to be in the conference. conversations. It's going to be on the podcast. And that's actually kind of why I don't think they did some crazy rollout, because it's post rollout. Like, Gunna's album was kind of the rollout for Thug shit at this point. True. And I think the post shit is really where they're going to focus. That's why Gunna put out one record. It was like, here's the album. Because they had this Doug album as well,

and now that's going to drive the conversation even more. Because once this Thug album comes out, people are going to go back to that Gunna album to see if they miss something. Yep. Like, oh, Doug said this, but Gunna said this. It's going to drive streams crazy, just comparing the two. I don't think these artists are in the battle for number one the way that. No, it's not. I'm not even thinking about that. I'm just talking about just letting the music live standpoint.

Like, yeah, I just came out last week and I'm putting my album out the next Friday. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I just think that you let Gunner's music live just a little longer. I think it pushes the narrative with Gunner's album even more. Also, Killer Mike's album came out. Michael, off camera, I had to ask the name of it, even though I was listening to it all weekend.

I feel like streaming, you just type the artist in, or it's in the new music shit, so you never really resonate with the album title. Yeah, that's another reason why I miss having to go to the actual record stores and get the album, because that was all part of it. You get to read the album title, the booklets, the credits, the art and everything.

But yeah, Killer Mike's album, Michael, came out Friday. Got both sides of Atlanta over the weekend. You got the Rico side and the positive side. Wow. This was, this Michael album from Killer Mike. This was a, this is an exceptionally great album. And I'm not the biggest Killer Mike fan.

Because you hate positivity. No, no, not that. I'm just not the biggest Killer Mike fan. But this album for me was, you like LP better because he's white. No, definitely not. But just as a hip hop fan, as a rap fan, this album felt something similar to why I fell in love with, like, rap. Okay, and where where?

Attention to detail, attention to the art, content, originality, just like a complete, a complete from start to finish, a complete thought, a complete, project. And just an artist that's uniquely him and being who he is as a person and as an artist. I think that the features, the features that he had and then the production that he had, he had the features on. Yeah, this Michael album is special. I mean, where I think a lot of the content heavy albums, Mr. Mark, is the production. because it can get boring. Even if it is really compelling content,

which we, of course, no Killer Mike to have. The production value on this album is incredible. It keeps you engaged the entire time and actually wanting to listen to every last thing Killer Mike is saying because the production is so good. And I think that's where... And Killer Mike's not the lyrical, miracle type of artist, but artists that are lyric-heavy,

that's why no one listens to y'all shit. Just the production. It's the music. All the lyrical miracle fans on Twitter that are like, how come no one cares about this content? Bro, because at the end of the day, it is entertainment and music. Yeah. Music being the key word, not just content. It loses people.

Like, they're here to be entertained. So the fact that Killer Mike focus so heavy on the production, it keeps you engaged the entire album. Like, I can't say enough about the production on this show. That's why I said start to finish. It just kept you. Three sacks verse. Where do we begin?

I mean. Stopps hip-hop. every time he he comes out he he under 3,000 is just the epitome of you know the real real artist genius brain that um produced by james blink by the way yeah uh he's just 3,000 is just he's he's reached that point where nothing from him surprises me you expect a certain level of art a certain level of you know skill whenever you see Andre 3,000 but somehow some way it still is just like incredible to hear and and listen to. Because on this one, like he's almost rhyming like in Morse code.

It just sounds like it just bear with me. When he raps, it just sounds like art. Well, it's attention to the music. Like he's, he understands that his voice and his lyrics is our instruments. Yeah, that's what I think. yes to that point I think he knows so much more about the English

language and pronunciation and how to bend words and make that rather than obviously what he's saying the content of his lyrics is incredible but in addition to that he's also compounding that with just wording and

you could tell this guy he studies language. Delivery is conversational. Yeah. especially like even the life of the party off Donda bonus outside of the words he was rapping how incredible they are

like him just lowering his tone as if he was talking to an elder talking to a mother is just another level of understanding like you said like he was reading a script he becomes part of the music it's like he becomes

you know even when you listen to early 100,000 with Outcast I remember hearing outcast and there was something about while big boys obviously dope and a legend as well it was always something about 3,000 whenever he would rap it was just a different it was a different feeling he could find a pocket in a production that no one else could identify and find a way to manipulate a beat that every other rapper if you gave 10 rappers his beat they would all probably

have the same they wouldn't understand it the same flow he would find the nuance and operate on a different functional level it's just But even that didn't, I don't think, started until maybe elevators and AT aliens. Because on Southern Playlistic, he was kind of rapping like Big Boy. He separated himself, I think, at that point and got to what we know three stacks. I don't know what it was, but not change the style of. It's something very interesting about rappers in particular that are real big jazz fans. Sure.

I think they understand just instrumentation and how their voice is. is an instrument. And 3,000, he just, while it's still hip hop and his rap, it's just his, you know, his delivery and his cadences and his flows and the words that he uses, like, he understands how to make words rhyme that really don't even rhyme because he can say them a certain way. And that goes back to certain rappers that are from certain regions

because of the, you know, just the way they say certain words on Rory's album with Jay's verse. where he said ultimately in a cadence and in a rhythm where I think only somebody from New Orleans could have said it like that. For sure. You understand what I'm saying? So it's like it's certain benefits of being from certain areas and certain regions where you say words certain ways. You start to understand that and you don't, you know, because some people move away from that. The higher they climb and the more successful they become, they kind of move away from the way they talk where they're from.

and a lot of the great artists, they know how to use that to their advantage on certain things because me being from New York, I can't say certain words the way other rappers say certain words. And it's vice versa, right? So me being from New York,

I can say things a certain way where I'm sure other rappers they'd be like damn, I can't even say that word like that. Wayne was always a great example of on a more commercial level of what we're saying with Andre. I think probably Juvie and Pimp C

were the earliest, I think, that started to have been the language. And that's what's so dope about the South that we can't do up here. Key Payne. He's a Wisconsin.

Mm-hmm. Like what? I mean, that wasn't an accent thing. That was just funny. Yeah, I would say, like, but like, he took the giant, bent it all the way down.

Like, yeah, Wisconsin. It's like, okay. It worked, though. It was a classic fucking bar. I mean, even like, Noia clap, like, we say New Orleans.

Like, I can't make that work. Yeah. Yeah. Like, no, you, I would say New Orleans make that New Orleans clap Not gonna sell Make that New Orleans

It doesn't It just doesn't It's like now let's do that one over But maybe just delete Offroges just not do it Can I bring some negativity into the conversation? Sure By three stack standards only

That's what I'm speaking on in this One of his more underwhelming features I'm with you on that But I am happy he's back in the bag Of just saying shit on features I really feel like he just wrote down certain sentences as his day was going of absolute random thoughts and tied it together. Even like when he would do like the walk-it-out freestyles and when he was popping up on shit at that time, it'd be great because we would just get where three stacks mind was at the moment. Then he started like body and bodying features where he was speaking to the theme of the song rather than three stacks just hopping on.

He doesn't care what the song is about. You're just about to get some random thoughts from three stacks. I feel like he's back in this bag with this one. I like it a lot, but it is lower on the feature totem pole. This feels like random thoughts from Andre 3000, which is better than pretty much every rapper ever. And it's an incredible verse,

but by his standards, I didn't find myself running back to it the way I have with every other three stacks feature in the last decade. Like it doesn't compare to sorry. It doesn't compare to Pink Matter. It doesn't compare to what's the Wayne Drake But you're talking about different...

The real her. You're talking about a different vibe, though. Like, this verse in comparison to those other songs, it's a whole different... Is it, though, because it's a clean slate? This, to me, is similar to Pink Matter, where they did just give him a complete clean slate to go around. Like, James Blake, I saw posted, he only produced this portion of the song. The rest of the song was produced by somebody else. Killer Mike's production is a whole different...

And even with The Real Her, I remember. a 40 tweet or interview or whatever that they had to resend the beat over to him because he needed a clean slate. So I think it is the same. I think maybe just sorry which he did fuck with production wise, but

he got a clean slate. He could have said anything. And, you know, it's cool. But cool by Andre 3000 standards in a verse is like, this is the greatest shit ever. Exactly. That's why I understand what you're saying. But this album, top the bottom, this Michael album,

in my opinion easily so far June this is the best rap album of the year though to your point my brother our lieutenant governor texted me Saturday afternoon I didn't vote from him he's not my lieutenant governor he is currently you're the lieutenant governor he texted me Saturday afternoon

out of the blue and said killer Mike made the best album of the year this shit is like soul food this is that real hip hop so I agree with them there yeah no this was this this album is incredible but even to like y'all's point of three stacks being so good at delivery like, I do sometimes understand the three stacks haters,

even though I'm a stand. Like only three, we would kill any other rapper if they said, hookas don't really do shit, Duke Ellington and this bitch. Nah, that's hard. But the way three stacks delivers it, it's the greatest thing ever. So I guess I do,

I do understand when people were on the timeline when this dropped that were like, yo, y'all overhyped this guy. While I don't agree with that at all, I can see the perspective of why they say it. You know, but those are the same people that are tweet, you know, these new rappers say some shit and they're like, oh my God, that bar was crazy.

And it's like, it really wasn't. And I mean, I don't. This is just a different level of art. To me. A different level of rap, a different level of skill. You know, that's all it says. And it's not for everybody, which I understand. I've come to understand that.

Like, I can't expect everybody, you know, to have the same ears and the same. for bars and music and art to hit me the same way it hits other people. And sometimes we do that a lot because hip hop is competitive. You know, we like to compare and tear artists down or he's wack, he's trash. And it's just like sometimes, yeah, it's just not a good artist, but a lot of the times it's just you. It's like the listener, maybe this just didn't connect to you the way it was meant to. And that's fine.

I just don't think that, you know, I don't take a lot of it. the younger generation would have to say about Andre 3000 because they just, he's a fossil to the younger generation. But it's interesting because to me, Andre 300,000 is probably one of maybe three rappers from the 90s that I can think of that or the 90s or 2000 that I could think of that wouldn't make sense with some of these younger artists today. Yeah. Like I could see Andre 3,000 and Little Uzi doing a record. For sure. And I mean, three stacks. I mean, contrary to popular belief really embraces the younger kids. I think it was Fife's funeral when he was given a speech, a long speech about not just tribe stuff, and he was talking about Thug. And you could feel the

audience get excited that he was about to shit on Thug. And he was like, these young kids is the greatest ever. Like Thug has the best melodies I've ever heard. And you could feel the disappointment in the old head hip hop crowd. Like three sacks, I mean, outside of, we know Future was part of Dungeon family at one point. So they go far back. But Future was embraced by. three stacks when real hip hop hated that like three stacks is definitely not one of those older artist that's like i'm only gonna fuck with i could definitely see him doing an uzi joint that's why it was crazy when when young thugs said that about 3000 when he said he never he'd never heard two songs when he can't rap like none of his last i thought that was because somebody that's

you know as you know dope as young thug with melodies and things like that that. A lot of influence. I would think he was a huge 3,000. So that's why when he said that, I was like, really? Like, that was shocking. That's either young or out of context. I mean, I remember us talking about that and me kind of shitting on Thug about it. But that was maybe taken out of context.

Doja Cat. She officially dropped her song, attention and video, released her video. Talk about the goat, right? And she's a... She's rapping. What happens when Doja Cat gets... three stacks verse before Kendrick. I could hear Doja and

they would be incredible together. Yeah. I have a theory on Doja Cat. What's the theory? After the hearing this record. Watch your mouth too. No, it's a compliment. She can be the female Drake. She can bar anyone down in a verse and she can also sing and do the carry a melody and do the hook. She's got to be more consistent. If she wanted, I'm saying

yeah, if she just put out this kind of music, she literally could take the Drake formula and body it. That's tough to say. because Drake isn't another stratosphere, but I do understand why you would think that. She just has to show and prove a little bit more to give her that. I think this is like a sample side. She's a very well-rounded artist,

but the reason why Drake is able to do that is because I don't think a lot of men are going to bump Doja. I think a lot of women will always bump Drake. Drake has more female fans than he has. But I think the way Doja raps out of all the female rappers, she raps where I think dudes would listen. I love this song Well that's how it goes

Even with like The raspy tone she puts on When she raps To the male ear is a little bit Easier to digest Rather than the pussy rap Scream shit Like this I think dudes would bump this

And she could sing her ass off Yeah You know what it is Doja I think She realized that This is easy for her I think she realized That this is easy

and I think that she's now entering a phase where she's really going to just start having a tremendous amount of fun with this shit. We'll see with this album. I think that she just knows that I'm better than all of y'all. Now I'm going to start showing y'all that I'm better than all you y'all. This is what I really want to do. Unapologetically me, I don't care about these standards

and these, you know, what you think an artist is supposed to say or look like those are the artists that stand the test of time that go against what the mold at the moment is what you know just aesthetically she's just going against everything like whatever y'all think is a standard she's going to go against that she's not going to give in to that she's not going to adhere to that she wants to doos she wants to be her complete self and again like back june said she can rap she can sing um and i just think that this attention record is is just the beginning of something very special from Doja Cat. Agreed.

I hope it's a quick rollout. I look forward. I don't know if that's going to be the case, but I do hope an album is coming soon. I would imagine it would come before Nikki announced her album date, and I'm not pinning the female rappers against each other, but I think we'll probably get a Doja album before Nicky's in October, no? I would think so. I see Doja mid-summer.

Yeah, I would think so. Rather than fourth quarter, but, yeah, I look forward to it. Doja, a Nikki and a... Cardi all in one year, I'm going to lose my fucking money. We're not getting a card. Cardi's this year? She's dropping? She said she was dropping this year. She said that in our life when she was dismal. Yeah. I mean, you paid attention to that. She said, Demaris. I'm dropping an album this year just for you. Well, yeah, before we get into voicemails, if everyone can see, we have our new merch on, which is available right now. Yeah. Go check it out. I didn't know that. Yes. We all matched today. It's available now. New Royingball.com. How did this get here? look at these these cool colors

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And so you got to wear that with some shorts. Oh, I'm making it happen. That's sick. Really, really match it up. A lot of, a lot of I'll do that Thursday. I got you. Yeah, I like that. I mean, you know. Fem's and veggies. It's all good. Well, Keanu dropped too. Hold on. Don't leave the women out. Love Keanu Lade. I didn't get a chance to listen to

the album because I was listening to other shit and watching other shit, but I'm going to get around to it this week. I know that's your, that's your queen. That's my queen. How is it? It's really, really good. I don't think the masses will like it but i like i love it the why don't you think the masses will like that that casual fan because it's a very personal album it's very very personal it's like i don't think artists aim for casual fans what do you mean about when they're when they're creating their

art when they're in the studio writing i don't think they're aiming for casual fans i think pop artists are yeah i think when you go in to try to make a hit you're focusing mainly on casual fans um people who don't know your name. Taylor Swift. Like I'm saying, like the message behind Taylor Swift's music, it's like every single it's not unique. Every girl at 16

lost their first boyfriend. Like, she's just casting the widest net ever. Yeah, but what I'm yes, you're right. But what I'm saying is, I don't think that an artist goes into the studio saying I hope the casual fan likes this. I don't think so. I think artists are making music for people or supporters that

appreciate the art that know them as artists, know their music, know what they do. If you get some new fans along the way, great, but I don't think they're aiming for the casual listening. People who are locked into a contract. You're talking about business. I'm not talking about the artists. Oh, you're just talking about art.

The artist creating their art. I don't think they're creating their art thinking about the casual. No, I see this where I disagree, even our conversation last episode of how songs are made now. You kind of have to focus on what will work for the five seconds on TikTok and we have to restructure songs.

And that's the problem. I have an example. I agree with. I think someone like Keanu Ladego goes in not looking for the masses, looks for her actual fans. But I can't say that about every art. I think this predates TikTok though.

Drake's nice for what? That was a record directed at capitalizing on his very specific one moment, the women empowerment movement. Drake nailed it. Yeah, but you, okay, where was Drake at in his career when that happened? No, yeah, but, but I'm saying the song was purposefully done to capitalize on a current cultural thing. Oh, the tussie slide was a TikTok.

That was one. But so if an artist who's as big as Drake and has as many fans and his loyal fans as Drake, if even he does that, then you can guarantee much smaller artists are doing that. But I don't think that, but it's a difference because you can't, we can't put Drake in that conversation because he's, probably the biggest artist in the world. Well, he's admittedly said he can't do the quintessential 10-track rap album for us because he has too many fan bases that he has to think about when he goes into the studio to make an album.

He has to hit a bunch of pockets. When he does a song like Tussie Slide, I think obviously that's a very intentional creation of him. Like he goes into a knowing, like this is just for that. I'm talking about like when Drake, if he goes into the studio to make a like a project, I don't think that he's really focusing on casual fans. I think that he already has his fans. He noted that his core is there

and along the way he's going to gain new fans from each project. But I don't think he's making a project or a record outside of the intentional tussie slide. Or God's plan. Or nice for what? Or he does it with every project. I think CLB was the casual fan. Who? CLB, certified lover boy. With all those features. That felt like, which is why I particularly didn't like it because it felt kind of lazy and for the casual Drake fan that just knows his melodies and he just recreated them.

But honestly, never mind, of course, is for a niche. I don't think he gave a fuck about what the masses thought, obviously about that one. I think he approaches it differently. I think views he went in there with the idea

to push his fan base and grow his fan base with different sounds. But I can't say that for everyone. I think he did that with honestly, never mind. That was the... Yeah, I think that was,

he didn't give a fuck. Yeah, he would, that was pushing it all the way because that could have went really bad for it. I think thank me later was 100% to try to get the masses. Take Care was for them as well. How long as, Drake's first album came on what? 11 years ago? 2011, probably, 2010.

Take Care was 11. 12 years ago. Around 12 years ago. And then, no, thank me later was. The Big Tapes predated so far gone was 09. Thank me later was 2010. Yeah. Yeah.

So, it was first one. Comeback season. that time. Fraising. 13 years ago? God damn. That's not easy, man. No.

I don't know anyone else. Bro, that's like, when you think about that? I don't know anyone on earth that's done that. That's, bro, that's... Anyway, I don't know how we got into that conversation, but... I was talking about Keanu's album. But, yes, check it out. Keanu Lade.

Yes, friend of the show. We can get us some voicemails, though. Do we have voicemails? I believe we do. Holy shit. You know, Julian was in the corner of his dark bedroom listening to these all weekend. Yeah.

Nasty, man. I do listen to these like randomly. Of course you do. With the lights on or off? It depends. Just trying to see how creepy on the voicemail. AirPods, no AirPods. If I'm in the crib, no AirPods.

Oh, gone. I mean, I try to do no AirPods at the roof and highlight room with you. Nice. That is true. All right, let's get to the first one. Yo, yo, Roy and Maul, what up? This is those from ATL. I'm going to try to make this short and sweet.

So I asked my homies and they said that I was being a bitch. So I just need to know. All right. So me and my baby moms broke up or whatever the fuck. Blah, blah, blah, woo. She break up with me. She said she wants to work on herself and our kid. And this, that, and the third, we young, we, what, I'm 25, she's 26.

So cool. So I jokingly say a couple of months back, I jokingly say, hey, it's crazy. I'm the only dude that you've, fucked for the past seven years. And she go, well, yeah, you could have said that up until two weeks ago. So I'm like, all right, what the fuck? So I end up telling her, hey, yo, I don't want to be with you no more. Like, that's just done.

And she's like, oh, that's fucked up. That's a double-edged story because I know you've been fucking around, which I have. But I wanted to, my logic was I wanted to be with you. So you didn't want to be with me. So I just said, all right, whatever, fuck it. So now she's trying to get back with me. A, B, C, X, Y, Z. And I'm like, no, I'm good.

So I'm just trying to see what y'all think about that, what y'all would do in that situation. I don't want to defend her here, but your logic is a little skewed. It's very skewed. If you wanted to be with her and she didn't want to be with you, it makes way more sense for her to go fuck somebody else than for you to do it.

Yeah. I agree. All? Oh, it's on me? Yeah. Yeah, what's mean? No, no, he's the one that's being dumped. No, but he's trying to, like, pick up.

You got to dump. You got to pick up. Dump her again. And dump her again, yeah. Yeah, make her think that you want to be with her and then break up. Gaslight. Yeah, that's gaslight. Well, that is where he's losing this battle.

Like, him wanting to be with her so badly is probably turning her wrong. Because I'm trying to understand. So did he have sex with girls before they broke up or while they were broken up? I think while they're broken up. It appears post to make himself sound better. He may have been fucking other chicks, but. It sounded like he was doing his thing. Okay.

And so she, and then. their split, she said, but not, not, not, see, see, women are good at that. That's what they'll do. They'll say that they want to work on themselves and work on their kid. Oh, God.

Oh, my blood is starting to boil. And I hate when chicks go work on themselves and they just fuck other people. I'm not working on shit, but on the dick. You're working another dick. You're working them hips on another fucking dick. Wow. Love that.

So, yeah, nah, man. I can multitathe. It's strange dick working on yourself. Until that nigga burn you. Well, then you got to work on yourself. You could bury me. Like, I need to discover new things about myself. All right, just say you just want to fuck other people.

Yeah. To me, that's gaslighting from the girl's perspective. Yeah, like she had that whole, she didn't, she wasn't, she didn't want to work on herself. What happened was she met somebody else and she felt bad about cheating on her child's father. They were together. So they broke up, whatever, not together. And all of a sudden there's a new dude in the pick. No, that dude was always in the wing waiting.

That's. He said seven, like. He said what? you know what fuck it no say it also a crazy thing to say to your girl

no masogony ones it's fine just say it oh come on so he said that they've been fucking around that was her baby father it's the only person

she messed with for seven years how long have they been broken up for did I miss that I don't think he said how long I think they've been

broken up for a while but she said you could have said that up until two weeks ago so yeah you could say that I was the only person we were like yeah

I've only been having sex with you up until two weeks ago two weeks ago I discovered something new I've been discovered

that's the thing You don't just, she knew that other guy. It wasn't a random. Well, I'm sure she started dating him. How did you know that, though? Okay. I mean, she was with somebody for years, for years. He had the kid with them.

Also, she had to lie down. Also, probably healthy that she fucked somebody else. If they'd been together for seven years, he said she was 26. That's 19, like your whole 19 through your 20s. He didn't say we were together for seven years. Yeah, she probably needs to go fuck somebody else. She said, he said she was.

What? What? What do you mean? That girl knows nothing about herself. So, learned by herself and the dick of another nigga? You don't date from 19. The fuck are you talking about?

You don't date from 19. She's going to learn herself to another man's dick? That's the end goal of dating. I'm saying if you don't date from 19 to 26 and you're with the same person, also have a kid, that girl knows nothing about herself.

I'm not saying just fucking a random dude on one night is going to teach her anything about herself. But going out and dating other people, she would probably learn more shit about herself, the world's other men like, Yeah. I'm not saying just fucking is going to do that.

But she, for her whole 20s, from 19 to 26, has been with the same person plus a child. That girl knows nothing about herself at all. Damn. Except for that relationship and being a mother. In that dick. It's a little different if she was 34. You know.

Like she didn't have a 20s. Yeah, your 20s is when you learn. Being in your 20s as a woman or just as a human period and dating people, when you date different people. And I don't mean just like going on a date. I mean like we are actively dating someone. You learn so much about yourself by learning what you do and don't like in other people. Yeah.

And like being in a situation where, oh, okay, I was dating this person or oh, I might live with this person. You learn a whole bunch about yourself. Also, even in his benefit, she may find out she's been a shitty partner. Yeah. She doesn't know. She's only been in one bubble. But don't find out you a shitty partner about fucking some other nicks and come back to me like, you know what? I was wrong.

No, no, no, no, fuck that. Well, she's still, I commend her. She's still like, I don't want to be with you. Like, he's the only one saying he wants to be with. So who, wait, I missed it. Who started the breakup? She did. She did.

Yeah, okay, so she initiated. That's why his logic is crazy to me. She hated the breakup because she knows she had another nigga in a tuck. They've been broken up. No, no, no, I don't think that's what happened. How you don't think that's what happened? Because she said that she wanted to break up because she wants to work on herself and work on her kid. And whatever work on the kid means.

I don't know what that means. Oh, okay, I see what you mean. Yeah, she want part of working on herself. The whole thing was to break up. It was to break up. But y'all are putting that on here. Nothing he said led to that though. No, no.

She says that she wants to break up because she wants to work on herself and work on her kid. But he didn't say how long ago they broke up. No, he didn't give a timeline. He didn't say how long ago they broken up. But I'm just saying she initiated the breakup and now she's fucking somebody else. If she initiated the breakup, if they've been broken up for a year and a half, two years, and then she fucked somebody two years later, she broke up with him to fuck somebody else? He didn't say that.

He didn't say with time. But now let's say you're right. And that's, in that, and if it's a years have changed, you're absolutely right. Now, let's say they only been broken up for a month or two months. I don't think it's that. But okay, sure. Let's just say. Okay, sure.

They broke up. I mean a month, bro. But what does is because she slept with somebody else? What you think she only broke up with him to sleep with somebody else? That's part of it. If they've only been broken up for like two months and she fuck somebody else, that's exactly what I think. She's known that person. That guy didn't come out of nowhere.

But that's what I just said. I'm with you. No, I think you get the girl that fucks the male. man if she never leaves her bubble for all of her 20s. That's the girl that fucks the mailman. There's no shit else. Yeah. Yeah. She doesn't. Yeah. So then how long you have to wait until from after a breakup to fuck somebody?

To for more not to call you a hoe. How long after you're a breakup? If you're a man, if you're a man, how long are you supposed to wait? I mean, if you've been together seven years? But she did, he didn't, that's not what he said. If I'm not mistaken, he said that she said that you're the only person I've slept with in seven years. They could have broken up three years ago and still been fucking around because that's her big, her child's father. Like, that's what people do. His dumbass said that to her. He brought up a subject. He shouldn't have brought up. She didn't say, hey, two weeks ago, I fucked someone for the first time in seven years. He said, ha, ha, you're the only person's crazy that you've only slept with me

for seven years. Two weeks ago, I fuck someone. He brought that. His dumb ass did that. Yeah, he shouldn't have that. Well, he was probably popping his shit. See, he thought it was his. No, baby. That's wild. No, baby. we have a child together like we've been together for years that doesn't mean that doesn't mean shit if we've been together for seven

eight nine years whatever yeah but that's no that's how I know they've been broken up for longer than a month let's address the clear double standard okay I'm a big advocate of double standards but he can fuck around she can't yeah I mean once I put a seed in you

you have my seed like that's my pussy man but he can still have other pussy My God. We created a life together. That's who y'all listen to. And he says he wants to be a stepdad. We created a life together.

Yeah, I am that king. We created a life together. That's my pussy. What are you talking about? If that ain't my pussy, get the fuck out. So that means that's her dick. Yeah. I'm not leaving.

How could you be a stepdad? He's not the one that tried to break up with her. He was staying there. So how do you be a stepdad? So how do you be a stepdad? How do you be a stepdad if that pussy belongs to her baby father? Can't be a stepdad then. That's not your girl.

No, he's dead. it's a great answer wait so once once they die the pussy is free it's unleashed once the death certificate is signs when he's put in the dirt

the corpse goes down the pussy opens up yes absolutely for sure I forgot that in the sermon yeah that's how it goes you didn't know what I'm in re seals can't teach you everything

I appreciate it though keep me on my toes I will I would say dump her dump her he can't dump her she does not want to be with him get back with her

and you can't get mad if you're saying you want to be with her and her feel a way that you're fucking other people when you're saying you I just want to be with you just you and she's saying I don't and she fuck someone and you're fucking other thing tight he's gonna do it like Trump did to Curry at the White House when Curry was like fuck you we don't want to go and he goes well

you're not invited like it's like yeah they're doing that same thing yeah so it's like yo we not together no more she's like I said that I'm saying I'm saying it louder I'm saying it again for you like that's what you got to do I understand why you have your feelings invited me to his platform that I didn't want to go to right

same thing Like, what? I didn't ask. Exactly. How could you un-invite me? What are you saying, Damaris? That's a really... Dumber. What? I never wanted to come on.

Dump her. Just dump her. He's dumped. Well, yeah. Just move on. Just move on, yeah. Dump her from your mental, because you can't dump her. You were the one dumped. You caught the L, man. It's the summer. It happens. We all catch a house.

Yeah. And stop thinking that just because you're sleeping with somebody that they belong to you. I don't know why you thought that she was. was just never going to sleep with anybody. Because Mall said. Yeah, Mall said that. They have a family. They don't have a family.

They're not together. Whoa, whoa. You can have a family and not see. Okay, that's fine. But if she wanted to go start a family with somebody else and his son, she can do that. They're not together. Yes, of course you can. But that's still, those are two independent things.

Just because we're, okay, we're a family. That doesn't mean that I can't go fuck somebody else. We're not in a relationship. That probably would be the best idea. I am sort of involved in how you fuck if we have a kid. What? I am. sort of involved in that process.

And how you fuck? Or who you fuck? When, who? Like, I have to be somewhat involved. No. No. I need to watch the kid for you to go on the date. No, I got a babysitter, baby. You could. Why you got a babysitter? I'm free. Okay. Well, you can watch her. You and you can watch her then. That's fine. At the crib. You watching the kid while she's getting her back pulling out?

At your crib, right? I don't see why not. Yeah, right? Yeah. Take that, because that nigga definitely can't come around my kid. Mm. Niggas always think that's such a threat. Yo, don't nobody want to be around your fucking kid. Okay, woo, take your kid. It ain't about wanting to be around my kid. We're just making it clear.

Like, you just met this nigga, you just started dating him. He can't come around my kid. Okay, cool, so you can watch him while I go on and date and suck dick from the back. Thank you. You could do all of that. Sure. Make sure to get it. Make sure my kid is nowhere around.

Suck dick from the back. Yeah, like just make sure my kid ain't nowhere around it. I would hurt. That's all. No, it's pretty dope. Sorry. All right. Anyways, next voice.

spell please yeah what's the next voice good luck sir by that it's good luck tell him good luck what after his I feel for me as a family and shit

that can get difficult right yeah it's true all right excellent yo yo yo yo what's good I love this podcast I love worry in Marr

de meres edin and Julian I've been following y'all since y'all old pot and I've been hoping y'all come by you know Tampa Florida

sometime or at least somewhere in Florida because I love see y'all live my name is Dion and I'm not gonna my full name, full disclosure reason, shit like that. But this issue

has to do with my sex life and shit, right? So, this has been an issue that hasn't happened before, but, you know, me and my girl, we've been dating for about, like, seven, eight months. Take a blue two. And as recently, I want to say about

four, about I said, like three, two months ago, our inner course of sex and shit, you know, it's, it ain't how, was from back in the day. I'm like back with

when you first men and shit like that. Like, I don't know if I'm really comfortable of coaching her and shit like that through the shit she wants because she's not, I don't say she ain't good at it, but you know, she's younger to me. I'm 26. She's 20. She just turned 20 and shit.

And it's just like nasty. Ew. I don't say the shame status me, but it's hard for me to, you know, stay up there and want to have sex a lot of times. A lot of times she wants to have sex. She wants to be involved in it. And a lot of times for me to finish to have sex,

I have to think about other times I had sex with other people and shit like that. Oh, nah, bro. And I want to say, what could I do to, like, resolve this issue or what could I do? Do I communicate to what she should do? Like, I need y'all to let me know. You don't like this girl, bro.

You don't like this girl. Stop, that's it. Stringing her along. It's not going to get better. Oh, now y'all screaming dump, but now you're taking up. No, he really don't like this girl. No, he does not.

If I'm calling into a podcast for advice on how this girl can make me nut and I won't just dump her at 26. He's a, he's a, he has, he's using a Patreon feature. He doesn't like this girl. Yeah. He was signed up for Patreon already. Using a Patreon feature?

We appreciate you, but still. Yo, um, he don't like this girl. First of all, he didn't pay $10 to save him. I think he likes her a lot. She just got whack, she's not good as that. She's young. She's 20 years old. She's probably not that experience sexually.

Um, there can be a lot of things there. Sounds like my last advice that someone in their 20s should go out and date. not after they have a child why you like to leave certain he likes to leave certain details out on g-t life ends when they have a child like they had a child who said the life ends I'm saying that that's a family

like this ain't just they've been together seven months like I'm saying she's so-child like a family that lived together like that's a totally different thing that's not what I'm talking about she's so inexperienced because she's 20 years old

and she's going into her early 20s where you may learn more about that subject in particular yeah but the other woman is 26 and the gentleman was 25. I know she didn't have her 20s. And I'm saying she could end up like, you know, she's this girl. It's like when you go to prison, you come out the same age because you couldn't develop.

When you get in a relationship at an early age and stay that way, you're still the same person sexually because you didn't go out and fucking date. That's not true. He compared relationships to prison. That's not. They both are kind of bids if you think about it. That freestyle actually was all right. That wasn't bad. This dude, though, Darius, what was the name?

Dion. Dion. Dionne from Tampa. Yeah, just you just got a. He don't like her, bro. it's not that he don't like it they're not sexually compatible maybe the more he finds out about it the less he finds her sexually attractive

well first of all he should stop talking like he's super old like you're not above teaching someone how to have sex at 26 years old yeah but that's what the thing is you like girls with experience with no experience I like women with experience I think that's what he that's his problem right now

it was the other girls he was fucking that are 21 like they're probably maybe she's just in experience They're the pros of the game. Well, what age do you guys think you became, like, experienced SX? I'll ask that. Then we can get back to this stuff. It'll help clarify.

Off ribs. Off rip. I knew I was fucking, like, I knew I was fucking fucking, when I was probably, like, 26. I was going to go 25, 26. Around that time. Which is correct, because I lost my virginity at 14. It took me about 10 years.

Yeah. Yeah, probably like 20. Well, they say 10,000 hours, Roy. Yeah. I put my 10,000 hours. but also like a lot of that experience too may come from having a place to yourself yeah true like a lot of people don't get experienced in sex because they only have certain times that they can have sex yeah yeah twin like i got an apartment at 22 like even college you know you had a roommate and

other shit it was heightened than it was in high school but until i was 22 and had an apartment yeah i mean that's when i was fucking fucking that's like when i really caught my strife stride and stride college fucking is way different than having your own apartment fucking in my

I want you to have your own place that's a whole different level of fuckville yeah like now you just you just like you can experiment a little bit more

than you could where college was like you know yeah I'll just fucking because we're all 18 how about you de Maris I'm sorry

I'm at the question you asked us oh I think I became fun to have sex with at around 19-20, but I think I became, like, I started to really enjoy sex when I hit around like 25, probably, which is different for girls, because I can be fun for you, right, because you grow up watching porn,

so you grew up trying to emulate a man's fantasy, basically, when you're a girl. And then for actually to become good to me, it's like, oh, I'm an adult now, like, oh, this is actually the way that sex is supposed to feel. So I think it's a little different for women. Ran into some possible advice for this guy. pull up some porn do not pull up porn no no no

weird you run into that advice yeah where did you guys I actually gave the exact opposite of that advice that's what I want to know where'd you like because you been sitting here just pull up pull up on the flat screen run into this advice

babe like yo this is this is how we should be fucking I'm sure that'll go over great it's funny because he said yo it ain't as good as it was like back in the day what you mean you've been fucking for seven months what you mean back in the day yeah like what the fucking that's the long time

probably the night he beat he's probably the only night in mind, like the first night. That's probably all he's thinking about. The excitement of them fucking for the first year. He said two months ago. He said two months ago it got whacked. They've been together for seven months.

He said two months ago got whack. So then that means it was always whack. They just, the excitement of fucking someone new is what was good about it. It wasn't, the sex wasn't good. Yeah. Shut up.

So yeah, leave that girl. Leave that girl alone. He doesn't like her. Let her finish school. She had like three college credits. Yeah, also I also don't think you should be 26, seriously dating a 20-year-old. I don't think they're interesting.

And it's not about the age gap. It's not about that. It is. That's a weird gap. I don't think it's a weird gap. I just think it's when you're 20 as a woman, like there's so much. You need to let a 20-year-old be single. I don't think 20-year-old women should be in relationships.

That's just me. I agree. I don't think, I don't think, and I don't think that you at 26 should be in a relationship with a 20-year-old. Yeah, but that's our grandparent society. Our grandparents are not living in the world that we're in. I'm just saying, like, don't think that you can't be with somebody young and it lasts a lifetime and be happy. Like it can happen. It can.

Different world. But different generations. But I think people still doing it. If he was 21, 22, I would say otherwise. But he's 26 complaining about the way that she has sex at 20. I mean, there's people in their 30s and 40s complaining about the way their partners have sex. It happens. For different reasons, though.

I mean, it happens. Whatever the reason is, people complain. He's too young. But seven months in, if there's already sexual problems, yeah. Break up with each other. Just leave her. That's it. Yeah.

Dumber. You're in the height of your, you're 26. You're in the height of your horniness. You need to. The voicemail segment has kind of just become dumper. Yeah. Dumber.

I actually never say dumper, though. You just said on the last call, dumper. He was dumped. He can't dump a person that dumped him. Yeah. All right. Yeah.

Speaking of dumping, this next one. Ew. Okay. Well, it's not. Okay. That's okay. Doing some just entendres. No laxatives.

What's up, Roy Moore, Ed and Julian de Maris. I think might be able to help me out the most here. My name's Seth. I'm from Louisiana. I'm starting to, like, talk to his girl, and, you know, again, kind of, like, to a point of, like, feelings are getting involved. But summer's coming up. So, like, I'm trying to figure out how to navigate, you know, emotions and everything, but still wanting to, you know, have a summer. the way I would like to have a summer.

So, you know, if you guys can help, it would be great. Appreciate the pod. Watch weekly, man. Thank you. Dumber. The first day of summer's on Wednesday, by the way. That's why I wanted to play this. So we're giving him very timely advice.

Why do people, why is that like the thing? Yo, summer's coming. I want to like, you know, niggas fucking in winter too. Because the hospital. Probably more. I don't know why people think that that's like a thing. Like, you fucking in the winter. When it's cold, motherfuckers is fucking.

Because you see more women During the summertime. There's more women You're probably going to run into more women That are all Seamed up in sun dresses. There's parties. Heavies are out.

Yeah. In the winter you're like, you know, you go to work. It's cold off the outside. What was this question? How do I keep her and try to be single low key during the summer? I won't go with Demple on this one.

Cheat. Cheat. Lie to her. Yeah. Manipulate her. If she brings anything up. Gas light her. Make it her fault.

I don't know. She's wrong. Yeah, I mean, throw in a vacation. Oh, here's a, yeah. With the guys to Miami. Yeah, no, no, no, no. A vacation with her. Like, take her somewhere.

Once you take her somewhere, that's like a buffer. That kind of buys you more like time. Like, you got to take her someone. Better get her pictures off. Make her things she's sweet when you're, yeah. Here's a good one. When she accuses you of the cheating that you're actually doing, say, No, I'm not.

Why are you blaming that on me? Is that something you're doing? Yeah, that's always a good one. Let's unpack that. And then get her ice cream. Yeah. Yeah, because it's summer. Yeah.

Like a spa day or something like that. They love spa day. There you go. I don't know. Lying say I love you. Get a second phone. Get a second phone. That works as well.

Tiger should have did. Don't give her that number, of course. Yeah. Stupid. Demaris, what do you think? Do everything they said. Because you're not going to tell her the truth.

You're not going to say, hey, I really don't want to be in a relationship right now. They're not even together. He just said it's just starting to get like where he likes her. He's talking to her. He wants to have her there at the end of the summer when he's done fucking every girl that went down to Essence Fest. We don't know his Riz, though. He's going to cry when he found out she fucking somebody else.

Yeah. He's going to call back fun. That's always my favorite thing about these calls is every man's assumption is that the girl's, that's the only dude they're fucking as me. You know how heartbroken Dion would be if she gave that whack pussy up to somebody else? Oh, Dion's shooting the whole... He would be livid. He's shooting the whole canvas up, for sure.

Yeah, and that's the funny, boys. Like, yeah, but that was the whack pussy. How you shoot me over? over the whack pussy, fam? Like, imagine if she, like, fuck me. And then, like, he pop up while I'm there and he shoot me. But you said, you called into the homies

and said the pussy was whack. It's like when they rob someone's chain and it's fake and they get more mad. It's like, no, like, are you mad? I just robbed a fake chain. What the fuck? I put myself out there to be arrested or hurt and his chain is fake.

That ever happened to y'all? I've never taken anyone's time. No, I haven't stolen the chain. You ever snatched the mighty bitch and the pussy was whack. Yes. Yes. Yeah.

You said that so quickly. You have somebody in mind. I'm crying. Take somebody's girl. Yeah. And the pussy was right? Or like messed up somebody relationship. Yep.

I've never intentionally. I've never intentionally shot at it. Yeah. I've never messed up anybody's relationship. I've definitely never done that. All right. You do it daily. Are you serious?

We've had, we've had callers saying we have money back. We have social media evidence. That doesn't count. That's stupid. That doesn't count. Just because the reason their relationship ended doesn't mean that like me in real life, I fuck with the girl on the side. Like I'm fucking her and like the dude finds out

Never, that's never ever You just take the day out That wasn't a girl I was fucking Pingo card You never fuck that girl before? Never, I would never fuck that girl Yeah But not like that it's just like you know when you have people

That you don't even That sexual thing is just not there at all That's what that is for it This guy should actually just be honest with her Yeah You'd be surprised She might be like, yo Get that shit out your system

I'll be here waiting Oh shit. Women like that exist First, no, they do. I know they don't. They do. Women don't even wait for their fucking hair to draw all the way. You think they're going to wait for a nigga to get this fucking hilarious.

Get the fuck out of it. Or he's honest and says I, it may be pitched it as an open relationship. If you want to keep her involved or around, say, hey, like. He don't want that. He's not going to want her to fuck nobody. But you got to eat that. You either got to be honest with her or just do what we said initially and just be the

complete piece of shit scumbag, which obviously is not what you should do. but just be honest with her. If she can't do it, then leave, bro. If you're going to have this summer that you're talking about having, then you don't need her anyway. Also, why do you want to have that summer? Because I personally think relationships

are the most fun to be in during the summertime. It's mad, fun dates and outside shit y'all can do together. If you really like the person that you're wit. Sure. Oh, nah, nothing's funner than other bitches. Yo, y'all make me sick. Summer in Louisiana too sounds really hot. Like, how much stuff are you really going to do?

And imagine, like, meeting the chick out like in the swamp at the day party outside and then take her home. What? That booty sweat. Yeah, everyone's going to be sweaty. Oh yeah, I don't like booty sweat now? Not Louisiana heat just take a shower. Yeah, there you go.

I guess. I mean, he's right. If you really like that girl, stick with her. If you want to have a fun summer, then be honest with her. But if she fuck homie with the gold chain during Essence Fest from New York, I don't want to hear shit. Don't call back complaining and crime.

Yeah, say his name. Name is mall. No, I'm not fucking any of these girls. You don't know that. In New Orleans? If you went to New Orleans and had sex, you wouldn't know if it was gentlemen's... I mean, well, I'm not... I don't visit New Orleans, so...

You're not, you're not Zion. No. Well, those voicemails were great. Yeah. Do we have anything else? So should we get in some Patreon shit? Jama rant was suspended for 25 games for holding another gun in a very event. video, the commissioner, Commissioner Stern, no, excuse me, rest of peace commission.

So, Commissioner Silver handed down 25 games suspension for John Morant, which the internet reacted to and said it was, they were surprised that it was only 25 games. Makes carrying look all right. Yeah. But, Ma, it wasn't a gun. It was a candle lighter. Yeah. It was a-

Who was Jaws P.R? It was a toy gun. They trash. I want to talk. It's got to be like. one of his home girls, right? Not like a real PR agency. It's somebody that he met probably in school. Or at the strip club

when he was wilding. I'll say it again, man. Just be careful because you've been given an exceptional long leash to fuck up and not really experience too much of a heavy ramification of it. Twenty-five games is light after it's being.

your second time doing this in a matter of three months. Nike hasn't taken your shoe deal away from you, which is unfucking heard of. They supported you. They're supporting you through this. On and off the court, they said. They put out a statement, we're pleased that Jha is taking accountability

and prioritizing his well-being. We will continue to support him on and off the court. Meanwhile, Kyrie Irvin still doesn't have his Nike deal. What do you? And we won't... He posted a thumbnail for a documentary. We won't bingo card you with the Kyrie shit again.

But they gave Kyrie homework. He had to write like a 10-page essay. He had to donate to charities. John Moran doesn't have to take one gun safety course. It doesn't have to do anything. It's just, listen, if this is not a clear indication of what their priorities are and what they care about most, then I don't know if y'all ever get it. But to Jai, you know, I hope that this is the last time that we will have to see you go through some shit like this. you know, because if they're showing you that they

just letting you do what you want. And that can be a dangerous thing. When you start to feel like you can do anything you want to do and there's no real repercussions for it, you start to push that line and start to push those boundaries a little further and further. And I hope that that's not the case with you. Do you guys genuinely think that a 25 game suspension

will change what John Moran does? No. I think he'll stop doing it out of work, Cammas. I think that because I think he's going to lose a total of $8 million

during his suspension because it's suspended without pay. Yeah. So. And they kind of makes him ineligible for like MVP and all that stuff.

Oh, he's not. He's not winning MVP. Nike money too. Yeah. Gives a fuck. No, I mean. The money,

yeah, I don't think the money. I get it. I just, again, that's what I'm saying. I don't, you know,

$8 million dollars to job of rent. I mean, $8 million is a lot of money. But when you're making close to $200 million, I mean, you don't really care about eight.

Here's the thing. I don't think it's going to change Jaws' perspective, but it is going to change the NBA and Nike's perspective of making sure that kid does not do anything wrong. Just to protect their business

and their perspective of their entire organization. Because they'll look nuts. If he does this shit again, the NBA is going to look more insane than John Moran. Because they gave him such a light sentence on this shit.

Nike said, we support him on and off the court. He's a better human being. Nike and the NBA is going to make sure that there is not a camera around that fucking kid the rest of his life. Not for any moral standpoint. Job may not change at all.

He may be running around his entire career with every gun he has. They're going to make sure anything is ever scrubbed. They're going to vet every last human being that's a round jaw. Wi-Fi won't work for his friends when they're around him. They're going to make sure no matter what. I think he deleted his social media. I think he deleted his Instagram. that job burner account's gonna go crazy yeah i just i just hope i just hope he i hope he i hope

this is it for him can be called the second amendment on finster oh my gosh his instagram's still up is it yeah he probably was they probably took his password away man that's the thing you could take the pad take away the main page all this stuff this he's a kid he's on this shit yeah like there's no ways but y'all missing it y'all are talking about him showing it. I'm talking about him actively moving around with guns and flashed in real life. He's not going to stop that. To me, that's what I'm speaking to. I hope that that's what he stops doing because that brings a certain energy that may cause some some tragic shit to happen. So that's what I'm hoping that y'all learned through this. Like fuck fuck you know, IG Live and all

that. That's, you know, whatever. I'm talking about in real life. Is he going to change the way? because obviously he's riding around, he's walking around with guns, and he doesn't care about pulling it out and flashing it. I'm hoping that he changes that. Because you're going to flash that gun and pull that gun on the wrong person, and then we'll be watching ESPN with a breaking news that something tragic happened. That's why I think his PR is the dumbest fucking people ever, because we knew it wasn't a fake gun to begin with.

So their strategy was, well, everyone has been upset that Jaws been putting guns on camera. let's put another one but make it fake Tee-hee Like Because right to your point If Jai has the fake gun around someone Where he wants to light a candle The wrong person is going to see the gun

Right And they're going to have a real gun So again Hopefully Jai just learned his lesson And is moving right after this That's all that's all we can do I mean good luck in next season When you do come back from your suspension

And you know All that other shit Well we'll see you next episode this coming week. A lot of Patreon shit happening. New merch out. New merch available now. You look good with the orange on, man.

Yeah. It looks good. Matches the beard. Yeah, yeah. Not too much orange. No, no, no. Just to write them out. Just to write them out.

Some highlights. So we'll be back. Enjoy your week. Be safe. Be blessed. And have fun. I guess the summer is Wednesday, right? Yeah.

Welcome to summer. So yeah, have fun. Be safe. We'll be back in a few days. Dumber. Dumper. Big dump. I'm that nigger.

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