New Rory & MAL - Episode 179 | Gunna's Album Is Better Than Young Thug's

Episode Date: June 27, 2023

Mal is skeptical…which isn’t new, but this time it’s about nature docs. We revisit the imploded submarine and give our predictions of what the afterlife looks like. Over the weekend Rory, Julian and Yomi went to Larry June’s show. Staying on music, the BET Awards were over the weekend. We ran through the top moments Busta Rhymes, JT vs. Uzi / Ice Spice, Offset & Quavo reunite, Chief Keef. Then we breakdown Offset’s relationship trouble with Cardi B. Somehow this leads to Mal thinking Julian would storm the Capitol. We review Young Thug’s underwhelming album. It’s time for voicemails! Today we have step-parent advice and relationship advice (dump her). Go check out Rory/Demaris’s episode from ‘Whoreible Decisions’ and get our merch before it all sells out. Tune in as the guys discuss all of this + more! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoicesSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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football, soccer is the most important. Listen to the away end with Daniel Alarcon and John Green on the Iheart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Slate. My wife cheated on me, gang. Gang is crazy. What? Fuck somebody else's blood? My wife?

I just, you know, I don't know, man. I guess love conquers all, right? I mean, how would you break the news that you got to? it on. I'll put it on gang probably. You gotta put it on gang. Because if it's not on gang, yeah, then what you do? It's like, it ain't really happened. I mean, Demeris is looking for a source. The source

was gang. Gang, yeah. Put it on gang. No. I ain't gonna lie. I'm kind of disappointed. But listen here, before you drop that, well, before you drop this shit, let me give you some inspiration because you lack it. That shit was trash. We're gonna let them get a do-over. They got you gas.

You must think that you're the new hove. You're a 4.0, nigga. I jumped in a new rover. I was watching, was it Planet Earth or something on Netflix, a new season? I know my brain is just different. Because I think about the wildest shit when I watch that. Like, how the fuck do you get a drone out in the middle of the ocean to catch a fucking walrus climbing on the only piece of ice out there? Okay.

Isn't most of that planet Earth thing like CGI shit? Oh, I don't know. That would make sense. I don't think all of it is like actual. I think all of this is the CGI. They have cameras running like 24-7 during seasons. Yeah. Yeah, but like this one shot of this walrus, like in the middle of the ocean.

Like, I don't know how. Did you feel seen? No, I just don't know how that war was seen in that moment. Tracking devices. Yeah, like, because how do you catch that war was climbing on that? It was, this was the only piece of ice in the middle of the ocean that the warrants could have found. That's why now they found it. I believe that CGI shit.

It has to be. They did like a really deep sea version of one, like where they, where the submarine went and shit. That had to have been seeded. Because they were like face to face with fish I'd never seen before. Of course you know it. And they were like talking. I'm like, come on.

Just finding Nemo or the discovery. I'm just looking at someone that shit like, all right, there's no way you got a camera to follow this wall or something to the middle of this. Nah. Well, they just got attacked by sharks. If this is the same series, they're shooting part two right now and they got attacked by sharks. Like yesterday. Our point is.

Yeah. Our Planet says they do not use any CGI sequences or animation. It's based around absolutely real images. I think they are real. They collect... Getting that shot of that wall... Did you see it yet? I've watched other, like, their other...

Okay, watch the new season. When they show the walruses, like, you're going to know exactly what scene is talking about. Does Attenborough do the V.O. for that one? I don't know who you're talking about. David Attenborough. He's like the goat of... He's like the Bordane of Our Planet shit.

Like the goddess like... He doesn't get the old English voice guy. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. So, but it's just the shot of this war was in the middle of the ocean. This is the only piece of ice that you can see with the naked eye. How the fuck do you get a drone there at that moment to capture that? Like, I just don't understand how they do that.

Oh, maybe I'm thinking of a different one, but it's like planet Earth. And I think it's narrated by the guy that Julian's talking about. That shit looks like Cgi-I to me. Yeah. This looks like they actually filmed the show. I don't know what this is. No, this is not the new season. I think that was the last season.

Yeah, that was the last season. It's last year's Boris. Yeah. Well, it's can't climb for shit. Yeah, that does. Well, that's good to know that over the weekend you were watching some planetar stuff. I just watched it last night. I saw it was on Netflix.

I was in bed. I was like, oh, it's a new season of Our Planet. This is always interesting to watch. So I just watched some of it. Do you learn anything? It was smoking. You know, that's the shit I'm into now, man. Just stay away from...

No, not We. Out Planet. I'm into Our Planet now. You know what I was doing? So what did you learn? Like, tell us... I mean, I was just amazed at how they just captured these fucking these moments that just happen like once every nine months like how the fuck do you capture

that they're always rolling like that shit is just crazy to me like they deserve all the wars they get for just shooting some shit like that it is an interesting job like scientists that we don't really know what they do like what information they're really gathering and they make this much money yeah like you guys live in Antarctica for six months out the year and everything is still melting right can we get a progress report from you guys yeah like i don't you can chapter this walrus in the wild on the only piece of ice left in the fucking Arctic Ocean but you can't capture the dude

that keeps fucking dropping Malta in my elevator every fucking Saturday night like how can we can't catch that culprit? Because you guys won't let us bring cameras to the block. No, but they won't. Exactly. They need to put some fucking cameras in my elevator like the shit is fucking pissing me all. It's the same bottle of Malta India on the floor

every fucking Saturday. Why are you looking at me? Because why do you think I'm looking at you? You know what you're right. He's suggesting maybe a relative of yours was the way that left it. No, we don't You don't drink Malthas? You don't drink Malthus? Hell no. Really?

You hate that shit? I hate Malthus. Are you doing? It's nasty. Corona is a good thing. Really? What a weekend? Yeah.

Oh, wait. Rory mentioned the submarine shit. I did a little more research about it. Yeah, they were incinerated. They didn't even know they died. Oh my God. It was the thing, the whole thing collapsed in 0.22 milliseconds. Yeah.

That's how fast. So it was like casual conversation and then you're gone. It takes 10 milliseconds for. for your brain to identify pain. Yeah. And they died in 0.2 milliseconds. At least it was a painless. So they didn't even know. It's just like right now we're sitting here and just,

you just turn into pasta. That's a nice way to go. Yeah. And they said the. A confusing way to go. You just said it's a nice way to go. You don't get to, there's no confusion. You're gone.

Well, I don't know what everyone believes as far as the afterlife, but like, just like this and now I have to figure out what the fuck I am. Wake up at a Michael Jackson concert. You're like, oh. Like, have you ever woken up from a nap and not realize where the fuck you are? Yeah. Imagine like then waking up and realizing, oh, I'm... At the gates of hell?

I'm dead, yeah. Yeah. I think it's kind of the same thing. Like, you wake up and you're just like, oh, shit, I'm home. Like, yeah, this is your home now. Yeah, it's kind of the same thing. Welcome to a new episode of the new Rory and Mall podcast. I am Mall.

I'm Rory. And we are back with a new episode, a new audio journey. What do you think happens? Do you think like your family, your dead relatives are like waiting at the gate? Like, you know how people wait? I hope so. With signs in the airport? Yeah.

Like, it's just all your dead relatives. I hope so. That would be dope. That would be kind of cool. Yeah, but who's to say they're all together? Some are probably up in heaven on others. Oh, I definitely got some relatives that's not in heaven. Yeah. Trust me. And they knew where they was headed. Yeah, there's no. I respect that. I respect when you know where you're going after this experience. I respect those people. We also do, especially with like the older people in our family, have false perceptions of them because we only know them from a certain age group. Right. Right. Like imagine getting up to heaven, like, where's Nana? And then they like really.

explained to you who Nana was. And that she's not up here. Yeah, she's not here. Nana was not a good lady. Nana, you knew Nana from 60 to 80. Yeah. She was a piece of shit for the first 60 years. I believe that.

I believe there's definitely a lot of relatives that I thought were like good people. And even some of them are still here and you hear a story. You're like, wait, who? Yeah. You're like, oh yeah, you forgot at one point he was 18, 19, 20 years old. Or 55. Yeah, he was out there killing people. Or now.

Yeah, he killed a few people. Like, he's a piece of shit. I mean, and maybe some of the scumback relatives aren't as bad as we thought they were. Like who? You know, we always have an uncle that we think is a little weird. He might actually greet you up in heaven while Nana was the real scumbag. Oh, no. All of my relatives.

Maybe uncle, maybe he had a point. Maybe that's why he never showed up. Because Nana was a fucking psychopath. Listen, the family members that don't come around much, I understand them now. I identify. I get it. Yeah, I am one of them now. I'm part of that tribe now.

100%. I get why you don't come around. I get why you miss most of the cookouts and family reunions because it's just always some shit. Well, how awkward would that be when you do get to the gates of heaven? And then you also have to avoid your family while waiting in line. Like, ugh. But I feel like it would be different. Them again?

I feel like in heaven. Everybody has to have fun. And have anything? Yeah, absolutely. What is fun is in heaven to you? Like, I would like peace and quiet. All the fun shit's probably down in hell. I think heaven is like a party in like mechonos.

I think heaven looks like meekinose grease. People that are getting their shit off in mechonos are probably in hell. It's, uh, let me know. Oh, they're like in a different section in heaven. Well, that's what's weird about like Christianity in the Bible. It says all the things you have to do to get into heaven, but doesn't really give you too much. At least with certain other religions, you know there's like 80 virgins waiting for you if you kill yourself. Like, at least you know in those religions.

Christianity, they're just like, yo, heaven's ill. Yeah. I mean, that's pretty cool. How do I know? What are your sources? Like, can you give you? Is it on gangs? Trust me.

Now, put that on gang. Put that on all the disciples right now. Put that on gang and then I'll believe you. If not, I'm not believing you. I get we have to go, but what is there? Right. I don't know. Well, Larry June had a show this weekend in New York City.

What a second. Did you go? Yeah, we did. I know Yomi took some dope pictures of Larry. I was kind of mad that she had that dope-ass picture. I need a picture like that. Good job, Yomi. Yeah, that was a dope shot.

How was the show? It was good. It was good. Very positive crowd, no matter what happened. Yeah. Even if there was too much bass on a song, it was still a good job at the end. Like a really positive environment. His set looked dope.

Yeah. Whoever did the set design with the oranges and the lights, like, yeah, it looks really, really good. Why y'all didn't think of that? It's expensive. Travel with all that fruit. Wow. What's a lot of orangeas? Perishables, like it's tough, yeah.

I get it. Going over the border, too. It can't really bring food. Yeah, because not, they don't have oranges over there, so. Exactly. Not in season. Can't find those in Toronto. Yeah.

Alchemist came out. did his verse. Uncle Al. Yeah, I would have preferred Al, give us some choreography or whatever, but, you know. Al, you want to, Al to dance? Yeah, so I texted him. He was like, what you thought of the show? I said, you would have came out with two dancers. I would have preferred it. Yeah. If you're going to come out and surprise us, Al, like, just don't do your verse with rapper hands.

Yeah, you got to dance. You got to do something out. Break dance, do something. So Larry June had a good show. He's on tour right now, right? I believe he's in Maryland next. Yes. Shout out to Larry June, man. One of my favorite artists, one of my favorite people. He's just such a cool laid back in his own zone. positive energy. Real play of shit. I fuck with Larry a lot.

Happy for him. Yeah, it was a good show. Over the week, BETE Awards happened the following day. First of all, before we do that, congrats to Tyler Perry, because we didn't mention it on the show yet.

Congratulations to Tyler Perry on being the new owner and CEO of BT Black Entertainment Television. That's a big, big move. I honestly thought that Byron Allen would have been the person that they sold it to. But I'm happy that Tyler Perry got it. They play his fucking movies every fucking weekend on BET.

You can't turn BET on without seeing the Tyler Perry movie. So congrats to Tyler Perry. That's big for the culture. Big for Tyler Perry. Another big move by him. Was he at the BET Awards? And he also owns VH1 now, too, by the way. Shout to Tyler Perry.

I don't know if he was at the awards. I figured he would host it. I would assume he was there. Well, they didn't have a host this year. Because of the writer's strike. Because of the writer's strike. How do we feel about that? feel like they need a host moving forward or was this year?

I feel like they need a host? A good host, though. Like a Monique. Like, remember when Monique was hosting the BET Awards? She did the Beyonce thing. Yeah. Was that, okay, yeah. He was an entertaining.

Has Drake ever hosted BT Awards? No. Has he ever went to the BB Awards? Yeah, about telling you. I'm just thinking back because when he did the SPEs, he smoked it. He was great. So I'm just thinking, like, I know he's probably past that or whatever. Like, he's probably not looking to do shit like this anymore, but.

he's a great host. I mean, I understand that even when they have comedians host that writers help comedians with that stuff, but I feel like you can find a comedian at this point that would have no problem writing all their own segments for this. Oh, yeah, you got enough time to prepare for the BET Awards. You let somebody know six months out that they'll be hosting. So was it more to just say like we're not doing it because of the writer's strike

or we can't do it because of the writer's strike? That's where I was confused. Were they making a statement? Like, people definitely read. The writers type of thing? Yeah, because they definitely. like read off teleprompters, someone had to write that. Yeah.

So why can't you have a host? That's a good question. I'm going to guess that they didn't have one because of the writer's strike in their standing in support of the writers, I would assume. I don't hope that's the case. They almost didn't have an awards because of that. Yeah. Like they almost didn't do the show at all.

Like this show was actually thrown together like last, very last minute. Did it feel like that? No. From what I've seen, everything that I saw, I didn't feel like it. I mean, I guess it did help that it was hip hop 50 because to me it felt like Kid Capri was kind of hosting. I mean, he wasn't talking per se outside of the way Kid Capri talks when he DJs. But that felt like the segments in between, just the hip hop 50 performances that Kid Capri was DJing and bringing and whatnot to me. So it made sense next year.

I don't know if you could really do this without a host. Those is important because especially like the awards, when they give those out, it's never compelling outside of who won. It's not like the presenters ever really say anything. I mean, Ray J gave it his best shot. I commend him for trying to make something out of that. Yeah. Which was weird. Did you see that?

The Ray J. part? Yes. Ray Jain went up there with this girl and said, I seen all y'all in her DMs get the fuck away. She's mine, even though I was just cheating on her in Vegas. It's none of y'all business. Watch the show in December.

Wait, what? If we know anything about Ray Jain, He's going to sell something. Oh, for sure. For sure. But what did you guys think of the hip-hop 50 performances? I thought it was good. I thought it was dope.

A lot of people were hitting me about the whole Buster Rhymns receiving a congrats to Buster on his Lifetime Achievement Award. A lot of people was hitting me on social media saying another year, Stevie Wonder doesn't get a Lifetime Achieve Award. Now, Stevie Wonder did receive, and Demarice, you was looking up. I can't remember the name of the award. He was honored by the BET honors, and I think it was like some type of musical achievement award. It was the first BET Award show, right? I think it was the BET award was the first one, I believe.

I think Stevie Wonder received an award. I don't think they were calling it the Lifetime Achievement Award yet. But people know how I feel about that. I just feel like Stevie Wonder needs his lifetime achievement. It's hip-hop. No, I understood it this year. It had to have been someone in hip-hop. Listen, I understand.

I knew this year it wouldn't go to Stevie because it's the fifth. 50 years of hip hop. So hopefully 2024, Stevie will get his BET Lifetime Achievement Award. But it's got to be tough, though, to try to decide that stuff. Because even with Hip Hop 50, where Buster Rhymes is more than deserving of that award,

even during hip hop 50, how do you narrow it down to Buster Rhymes out of the amount of rappers that could get that award this year? The only other artist that I thought would have gotten it besides Buster. Oosie. I thought that... Yeah, Carlo.

But I think L.L. got one already, right? Oh, yeah, you did. Because I'm always gold, because hip hop is 50 years old, so you got to go to the, obviously, the beginning. Buster, who has been in hip hop over 30 years, I believe. So it makes sense for him to get in. Buster was really one of the first rappers that I could remember that had those big budget videos. By far. Like, as far as his vision, people like to talk about Missy Elliott a lot as far as her videos, and she's, I mean, amazing as well.

But Buster is right there for me when they come. comes to just visually changing hip hop and having those big, big videos that you just couldn't. Even if you didn't like Buster, you knew his videos. You knew his music video. Just out of the sheer amount, I put Busta over Missy when it comes to videos. Just out of the sheer volume. Like, Missy has just as good videos as Buster. They're neck and neck right there.

But because Buster has been doing it since the scenario video, it's tough to compare them because Buster has 30 years. of life-changing videos. I love that video. But I think Buster made the most sense to this year, kind of to your point of 30 years. The younger generation, Fuxford Buster and knows who he is,

and then the older generation the same. Like, he's the perfect middle point, I think, for generation gaps with hip-hop. There's another artist that I think fits the generation gap right now perfectly. Oosie. Yo. No.

Ice-plice. I think one point, person, one artist that the city girls, I don't think sounds out of place with the new generation and is respected by the older generation is probably Fab. He has records with Uzi that sound good. He has records with a lot of these young artists that sound good. He has records with older artists that sounds good.

He doesn't sound, Fab is in a very unique space where he's not out of place by doing songs. Like, if Jay-Z and Uzi was to do a song together, I'd kind of be like, I don't know. But Fab and Uzi have records together or record together. I think I want to the summertime shootouts, I believe. Or the cold summers, I think.

No, summertime shootout. Do you think Fab is too awkward? Too regional? I mean, of course, Fab has had big hits. Everyone knows Fab. But people say that about- I'm not saying he's local, but is he too regional and too specific to one group of hip-hop fans the way Buster is mainstream, underground?

like he's everything. I don't know. I don't. And people say that about Fab. But I don't know why people, because when you go to different regions and a Fab song plays, people know the records.

But do you think to the level and years that Buster can play? Oh, no. Like the amount of regions and age groups that Buster covers is, I think, far bigger than what FAB does. Oh, no, that's not. We're saying the different things.

Of course. I'm just saying, I think that it would be little awkward to hear Buster with some of these new. trip generation artist it would be kind of like I thought the same thing so fucking look at me now came out

and that wasn't that long ago and that was one of the biggest records of however many years and I thought that too and Buster had every fucking young kid trying to wrap his verse on Vine like that was 12 years ago 2011 yeah geez I would have said like

2014 no yeah I was gonna say that was the year I graduated I pulled up the prom to that song well someone else who's on this list he would pull up the prom in that to look at me now That's a Chris Brown record, right? Yeah. Yeah.

Okay. Someone else who's on this list that I think goes to Malt's point, Wayne could be that. He's respected by the old heads and the younger people. Wayne, Wayne could be that as well. Yeah. Yeah. Wayne would probably be number two on that list.

I just think because Busta had that leaders the new school tribe, Jungle Brothers era, and then also wrapped with Puff. Like, it just covers such a crazy spectrum of hip-hop that I think no one really can do. L-L might be the only one that has a longer career.

But even then, I think the kids look at LL more for acting. He's the first rap superstar. Yeah. No, I think Busta made the most sense, but I think it's, I commend BET for even narrowing it down

to one person for hip-hop 50s. No, that's got to be tough. Buster definitely, definitely is deserving of this lifetime achievement award. I wish you'd do more public speaking. Very well-spoken. Like, he controlled,

but he's always been that. He's always been that type of, type of energy, type of person, that type of voice. He's one of the best storytellers if you ever was able to be in a room and just have conversations with him. Most aggressive dapper in hip-hop history.

Yeah, longest hugger in hip-hop history. I think my shoulder is still dislocated. Yeah, he's going to hug you. And we don't know each other. Yeah, he's going to hug you. He's going to hug you and let you know how appreciative he is of you and what you give to the ecosystem of hip-hop. But, I mean, I thought it was a great OG speech when he was bigging up all the young kids

too big enough everything he said made a lot of sense it was right on um it needed to be said i just hope that you know people not only just heard it but really like let it you know sink in and really take heed to what he was saying because it's the truth it was absolutely beautiful what he said and um you know he was emotional understandably so but i was i was happy for buster because again as far as as i can remember being a fan of hip-hop buster probably was putting out songs so he definitely deserves a lifetime achieving award, so salute to him. Congratulations to Buster Roms.

And acted on it right after as well, letting Coyler Ray in the middle of his set with a sample. I thought all of that was great. We already knew what Buster was going to do for the performance. Where do we rank BET's hip-hop 50 performances

against the Grammys? I thought the Grammys did really well. Oh, the Grammys was great. The Grammys was great. The BET Awards was good. I don't know where I rank if I would say it was better than the Grammys. They had more time and were able to break it up

different eras in a cool way. The Grammys felt very boom, boom, boom, it was like quick. It was kind of rushed. It felt a little rushed, the Grammys one. Yeah, but I think that is actually kind of why I liked it because it was so quick and it would go from legend to legend to legend. It was like, holy fuck, like just one verse that'd switch over and be big boy to fucking,

it was nuts. I kind of preferred that to some degree. It was more impactful. This was great, though, and I loved that they covered even, you know, one hit wonders. Yeah. Like, it was great when they did the whole Snap era dance shit from Atlanta, swag surf to also doing 80 shit. Like, I'm glad they covered even small niche things that were so important to hip hop. They tried to represent every, every moment, every era, every generation.

And I think they did a good job. Yeah. They did a good job. It's good to see Chief Keefe was allowed back in. Good to see Chief Keefe back on the beach. E.T. Stage. As a current resident of New Jersey, I even respected him doubling down 12 years later. He's still going to blow up the entire state. As he should. They didn't bleep anything out. He's like, yo, just let y'all know I'm still going to blow New Jersey up. Yeah. But now, it was really good to see Chief Keith. He looks healthy. Obviously, how impactful he is, he needed to be involved in a hip-hop 50 for sure.

Yeah, I mean, talking about I icon and introduced a whole new sound. and era and generation of well to hip hop yeah so definitely shout out the chief keef and salute to beat t for letting him back back on the stage do we know why he was ever banned i mean he didn't show up for a performance oh i mean oh that that'll get you man

things happen i thought maybe it was just because people were scared at chief keef at one point but now he kind of looks in retrospect like more of a tame rapper compared to these kids yeah chief keef was terrifying in 2011 he was the scariest he was the scariest rapper had ever seen. Well, that's, you know. Now he kind of looked like he was like, listen, he was just on house arrest.

He did his time and then he moved on to become a rapper. Started game-balling, yeah. Well, the thing about- He likes video games, these new rappers. Yeah, like the things about Chief Keefe, though, back in 2010, 2011, it really wasn't like, Instagram was around, social media was around, but it wasn't as big as it is now. So he probably was the same cool guy away from these YouTube videos. But the only time we saw him, he was just surrounded by 97 weapons. So it's kind of like, yo, this dude is a menace.

Like, he probably was the same cool, chill, like fun, loving guy away from that. But we just didn't have that access to his personality the way we do now with social media. And even when he did interviews, like, he wouldn't talk. I remember when he did the breakfast club, they were asking him questions and he was nodding. And they were like, we're on the radio. It's audio. The Gambino. That's a microphone in front of you.

The Gambino interview. Oh, we bring it up all the time. I still think it's one of the best interviews, Childish Gambino, Chief Keith. And then you'd hear stories of Chief Keefe like being in Paris with Kanye and being like, man, we'll go back to Chicago. Yeah. Didn't you fly out there for like 10 hours or some shit like that? And then he wanted him out there.

And then he was like, I hate this and left. Didn't tell anyone at all. Flew back to L.A., I think. I like shit like that. So do I. Yeah, like when people just have that, like, you're out of here, man. I don't even want to be here. Like, because if you stay somewhere where you really don't want to be, people feel that.

Like, I'm sure somebody in that studio to be like, yo, I don't think, homie, want to be here. Where? No, it was good. Anything else happen? Oh, I guess we could talk about the messiness. Which messiness? Uzi and Jay. Well, actually, before we get to that,

we should first bring up Cuevo and Offset performing together. Great to see. We saw them at the barbecue and birthday party last week. So, you know, it wasn't super surprising, but it was great to see them perform together and do that for takeoff. But, yeah, that was great to see. Salute to the Migos, rest of peace, takeoff. was really happy to see them performing because this time last year they got into something backstage, correct?

That was at the Grammys in January of this year, yeah. Yeah. Oh, that was this year? Yeah. Damn. Top of the year, yeah. So it's nice to see, you know, yeah, six months later. That they were not the controversy of the entire show.

Yeah. JT and Uzi. JT. and Uzi, man. I know this kept you up at night. That's why I was probably watching Planet Earth. No, this is just wondering what happened. Well, this is no different from our planet. I was watching.

Like, this is the wild. I don't know how they got these cameras where they got him. CGI. Yeah, we caught a, I guess, a little peek into a couple going through something. I don't know. I think J.T. was mad at Uzi because Uzi took a picture of Ice Spice. Is what they're saying? The lyric in one of the songs he previewed from his upcoming album says something about

a girl having Hero Lake Ice Spice. I just feel like J.T. has probably heard that song before, maybe even saw rehearsals. Like, that was just a really odd rumor. Yeah, I don't know. I think this is just people just throwing ideas or reasons at the wall and hoping that something sticks. I hope this is not the reason why.

I'm like where we said, I'm pretty sure she heard this song. He's previewing it at the BT Awards. Yeah, like she's heard it. It's probably going to be a single. Yeah, she lives with him. They shot the video already. Yeah, she heard it. I would think that, um,

it would maybe have to do with the picture. Maybe after the picture he was doing a little flirting. Yeah. You know women hate when you're like a little too funny. Yeah, like she said something. You weren't even trying to be. Like especially if the girl whispered something to your air and you laugh. Yeah.

Because now your girl couldn't read her lips and don't know what she said. Oh, that's beef. I mean, it was probably the picture, but probably not that at all. I think there, as someone that's been through similar situations, not with Ice Spice, of course, but women wait just. Different color hair. They just need one little reason. It doesn't have to do with.

that reason at all. It's a much bigger thing. That's just... Then they can use that one thing to just get some shit off they've been holding for a month. Yeah. And that just triggers it. And then phones are thrown and then, you know, Natalie Nunn's chin blocks it and videos go up and... So now they're not together

no more. This is it. I think she came... J.T. came back and sat down and they were like talking at the awards after all of that. That looked like some regular relationship shit that just happened in public. It happened in public, yeah. Have you guys ever had a public breakup? No.

A fight for sure that looked like it was a breakup but not an actual breakup. These situations happen very often. This looks like a regular relationship thing where the guy does one thing wrong and the girl flips out because she's been wanting to flip out forever.

This doesn't happen in one of the biggest award shows in the culture all the time between couples. While wearing a Jean-Paul Gaultier dress from the archives. Thank you. Who was wearing that? Ousey? Ha-a.

Dog. Go one. Solange gave Hove a fucking six-piece combo at the standard hotel. Like these things

happen. That's in private. The hotel at the standard is private. I'm saying in the elevator in the private space. If we just

somebody leaked the taste If those were in league we would have never known about that. How long is an elevator ride from the top of the standard down? Maybe a minute and 30 seconds. No,

two minutes long as hell. Maybe a minute. 30 is really long. Yeah. I was going to say somewhere around 35 seconds. Yeah. Okay.

They had every paparazzi on earth waiting outside that. Yeah, but they were in public. The doors didn't open and she didn't like piece them up when the doors opened. We wouldn't have known about that. If those surveillance tapes didn't leak, we wouldn't even know about that. Still, all right, if Natalie Nunn didn't open her fucking flip phone and film this, then we wouldn't have known. Well, somebody else recorded that. It's in a space like that, public space.

At least seven, eight people recorded it. What type of phone does Natalie Nunn have? Why was that the grainiest video I've ever seen in 2023? No? She probably touched the camera lens and had like lotion on their hands or something. you know how that go she ain't wipe off that lens good enough cocoa butter

yeah you know how that's the cocoa butter filter you know how that shit go man and how did she get the seat behind JT ice spice and oozy that's see now that's a better question yeah like that's that's a better question but uh I don't know man I saw that video going around of them of JT

calling him a bitch ass nigga and throwing her phone she threw a phone twice I think did she threw it once somebody picked her hand so she threw it again I want that shit give her ammo and then she's like give me my fucking phone bitch so who was she talking to him i believe she was she was talking to mr young

well the the the real controversy allegedly is well everyone said if the roles were reversed and he put his hands out or he threw a phone at her and you guys would be asking for him to be locked up we have to stop all domestic violence oh he did that already yada yada he did that already that's that's nothing new and i believe in double standards so no he can't yeah i don't think But, yeah, even though he's like 5-2. I mean, my girl called me a bitch-ass nigga and a bitch. Yeah, I'm full. Phone of the face can hurt.

Yeah, don't call me no bitch-ass. You know, room full of peep my peers. Like, we don't. I just did a record with this dude right here. You're going to call me a bitch-ass-nig in front of him? Front of Tyler Perry? Yeah, like, he don't respect my balls after that. Like, are you kidding me?

Like, nah, man, now you fucking up my stock. Like, we can't do that. I just want to dance. Yeah, like, come on, man. Don't do that. He just want to rock. Oh, that's what it is. I just wanted to

I couldn't think of a few bars That's the Rohey version I mean I could hear Ice Spice on that remix Maybe he was working For his sake He was working Yeah

Taking pictures is working I'm sure I'm sure JT has talked to a male rapper Before about a verse Mm Of course she has How could she? Yeah right

Double standards On Gang On Gang Speaking of On Gang So there's an interview I guess Or something on around that Offset was caught or his side chick posted pictures in the house that I guess that

Offset owns in Cali or something and they lived together at one point and people are now telling Cardi about this. Cardi went on to her Twitter spaces to address it and said that if she does leave Offset, she'll just get with another rich nigger, one of these NBA ball players or football players or something like that. And then Offset responded with one post, I think he said, fly like a bird or free as a bird, something like that he said fly like a bird yeah fly like a bird and then he said roer come on i'm just i'm just addressing what's going on in the coach yo he might be up there with meek as far as legendary tweets

listen i'm just telling you his his fightback game look back now but this sucks because now i can't even use the y'all one meme anymore no you can't the same way we can't respect uzi's rhymes anymore i don't know if i can respect offsets tweets or stories anymore now this the y'all one was one of my favorites ever this post right here needs to be in the moment sometime soon just like i'm gonna walk to the moment and this is what the first piece of art I see. Offset YR in 53 seconds. Which is crazy that someone screenshot of this shit at 53 seconds.

He says, my wife fucked the nigga on me. Gang, y'all niggas know how I come. Okay, can you break this down for me piece by piece? I don't fully understand. If a comma was in there, maybe I could understand it a bit more. This is from the me. It's a run-on sentence. So yeah, it's a run. No, you just, this is why this is art

because this is if you know, you know, the epitome of it. So my wife fucked a nigger. That's one sentence. You have a subject and a predicate. You have, that's a, that you have the entire thing. I know exactly what's going on. There's an action verb. My wife fucked a nigger.

That's the action verb. All right. You can't leave out the on me though. So on me. That's the pronoun, correct? What needs to be in a sentence? Yeah, on me should be in that upper top line. It should be, but it doesn't have to be.

Because see, it's all about the artist And what the artist is feeling at the time This is poetic justice is what I'm saying And one million percent, Rory On me Now it should be an exclamation point there Gang should have been all caps Mm

Okay You say gang You let them know gang You fucking it up ma'am How? My wife fucked the nigga on me comma gang No

comma y'all y'all niggas know how I come No No too many commas It don't even Because that shit don't When you put a comma That's kind of like putting a bandaid on it That gang

is like saying, yo, my wife fucked the nigger on me, Julian. Like, but instead of Julian, I'm saying gang. Yeah. I'm telling, we are a gang. We're gang. We're gang. We're gang. We're all me.

He let y'all know gang. Like, my wife fucked the nigger on me gang, all his fans. Yeah. And then, period. Y'all niggas know how I come. But we don't. Because the gang. Yeah, how does he come?

The gang is it a subject. And of that point. Yeah. But y'all know how I come. First of all, no, I don't. I don't want to be in this gang anymore. Yeah. Is that how you get initiated?

Secondly, it don't really matter what you say after my wife fucked the nigga on me. I was going to say, it's not intimidating. Yeah, it's like, it's like, fam, go back to your first statement. Your wife fucked the nigga on you? Gang. And then you're going to say, y'all know how I come. I know your wife fucked a nigga on you. Like, that's what I know.

He knows how she comes. Yeah, like, so it's just like, I mean, but, you know, to be such a brave warrior and, you know, try to fight back when the internet is. seemingly laughing at you and saying, your wife over here saying once she leave you, she'll go get another rich nigga. I mean, if this is how you want to fight back and, you know, I guess, but

it wasn't a good look. There's not much you can say after that. You can be the toughest person. You got to act like you didn't hear that. You got to act like you didn't see that. You just disappear from the internet. The internet doesn't exist until you open your phone. Do y'all know how I come to things like when a dude is

getting roasted and then just says like, yo, but do I get pussy? Like, it's like, well, it doesn't matter. anymore. Yeah. Like, it's not really helping. Yeah. Or you catch a dude with an ugly girl.

I'm like, yo, but I got bitches, though. Ah. Do you? Do you? Do you? Yeah, exactly. Do you, though? Because, I mean, you can have those.

If that's what you call bitches, you have a gang. Have a gang. Have a gang. Do what you want to do. But hopefully, I don't know. Hopefully this is just something that, you know, offset and card they could kind of laugh at and move past because, again, all just aside, they have a family,

they have children together. So you do want to see family stay together. Amigos never really talked about shit on the internet ever until sweetie and Cardi. Like, did women make them have to start addressing things? Because we were just talking about, like, Chief Keefe is who he is. Right. I always felt like what made the Migo so cool was how quiet and, like, reserved into themselves that they were.

And in the early days, sometimes they beat someone up on camera, just let y'all know just because we're quiet. will still jump you thought that was great and then they started getting with the female rappers and now they're on their Twitter saying y'all won

just feel like women bring the worst out of talented great men what has been quiet, stoic, powerful men that build bridges stoic yeah look what happened now I don't know this is just to me again

you know shit like this happens the best thing to do just shut up just shut up don't go on social media, don't address anything, act like you didn't hear it, and just go on one about your life because, again,

your wife is saying if she leaves you, she should just get another rich nickname. I just don't know how you... How do you recover from that? Yeah. Well, hold on. No, no, no, no, no, no.

How do you recover from that? I'm going to shoot... Of course you are. Good. Wow. And I'm not taking accountability from women, but I listen to the spaces when she's saying,

I keep trying to break up my marriage. in the space from what I she was this you were hosting you were co-hosting with Cardi she was a moderator she was a mod yeah not Maude Damaris was a mind mute your mics meet your mics

she was screaming one mic like give me liberty or give me death why did we go on on Cleverty's foot a space give me liberty and give me Mike are the British coming

why are you screaming that so loud oh man death they're taxes like right holy shit but okay go ahead sorry I'm sorry. No, really, what happened in the Twitter space?

No, I was just saying that in the spaces, she was just basically saying, like, okay, y'all keep trying to break my marriage up. Like, y'all want me to get divorced so bad. But let's say I do get divorced. I'm still going to get booked. I'm still going to get money. I'm still going to be in your algorithms. I'll just go date somebody else and go get another rich nigger and get married again.

Like another rich nigga is going to cuff me, which by, and I don't blame her for that. Because it's true. But which, by the way, really brings me to just how much people on the internet are, like, stupid. I was reading the comments. That brought you to it? No, because I was reading the comments. I think like hip hop DX or something reposted, you know, reposted her Twitter spaces or whatever.

And there were so many like little angry men in the comments that are like, you're a bird. Nobody's going to wife you. I'm sitting up here like, yeah. Oh, y'all think. It's the internet. They're like, nobody wife's birds. She's crazy.

She lucked up with offset. She'll never get wiped again. You can't turn a hole into a housewife. And I'll sit up there like, there's no way that these hundreds of men on their computers think that no one else will marry this billionaire. Those are guys that either don't have any type of relationships with real women or just don't come outside. Those are just, you know, keyboard pushes.

And they would wife Cardi B. Absolutely. Like if Carrey B did look at them one day and was like, hey, you want to go out on a date, they would tell their whole entire discourse. Also, in like the span of their relationship hasn't offset historically been the one caught cheating. Historically is funny. Let me check the books. I don't know. Let me go to the Almanac.

See what he did back in 1912. If we're going to call a hoe a ho, like, offset's the one that seems to be doing way more work than Cardi. Well, that's just the media's attack on men. Yeah. That's really like, you're not doing, you don't see the full picture. They're just singling out. They're trying to make this guy that he isn't in hopes of him losing his wife.

But he did say y'all won. So he did at one point give up. Well, he's saying the internet one, the media one. Like, y'all said y'all know how I come. Like, he said he's been getting get back. How does he come? Yeah, I wonder how you come. That's not real get back, though.

Like, it's not. If your wife fucks another, like, you fucking another girl. I don't care how much. I don't care how much pussy you get. I'm sorry. If your wife fuck one, you could fuck a hundred girls. You're going to be crying. Yeah.

It's not get back. It's never get back, bro. Like, your girl, your wife cheats on you. I don't care how many women you go out with, how many women you think like you. That sting, that burn will never leave your chest. It will never leave. It may fill some time for that night, but that's as far as I'm going to go. That's as far as I'm going to go.

Like, you, every time you look at your wife now, you just got to just imagine another nigga breathing on top of her in her nose while he's pounding up, while he's pounding on her, drooling in her mouth. You know what I mean? Like, breath falling on her in her eyeballs. You know how I go. And don't let him do that, you know, put the head by the ear and start whispering in her why he, you can't let a girl, you can't let a nigga whisper in your girl

just you describing this right now is making my stomach hurt. Yeah. I'm not sure. I couldn't do that. I'm not strong enough. All the things you do to your wife, imagine another guy. I'm not strong enough. Yeah, no man is strong enough for that.

That, like, legitimately made me physically ill. Yeah, but I felt for offset when I heard her saying, I've seen her post that. I was like, damn, she's going to go get another nigga. And then he said she fucked him. I just don't know how he was strong enough to just move forward. The kids. The kids. The kids are important.

The kids is what makes. Yeah, like, the kids is what makes you accept. and forgive and move on because you don't want to wake up one day and being a home and your kids are not there running around making noise because they would mind me this weekend. You don't want that feeling. So I get, I get, I understand. Mommy and a new rich nigger. Yeah, that, you know, because we can lose another mego to jail behind that shit.

Like, I can see offset doing some offset shit. He could be setting it off. I could see that. I could see him going crazy on that. It's the cool ones. Always in that moment. Go all the way left. He's like, I ain't think he had that in him, but he killed everybody.

Look at, look at. look at what happens when you push a man to that certain point because it went from Y'all 1 which to me was like an evolved version of yo that's crazy. Like you're kind of just tweeting through it. You're not saying much. That has evolved to she fucked another dude on gang.

Yeah. Look what happens when you just push a man too far. Offset, stay strong man. We're praying for you over here. Roy is out here fighting for the men to dodge accountability like fucking Mike Tyson. I'm fighting for the nuclear family. I'm not one of you weirdo Democrats that wants everyone split up. You're not? So I

I want them to stay together, but only for the kids. Oh, speaking of demon rats. Did you guys catch any of the Pride Parade yesterday? Were you outside? No, it's not. I stayed in. You think I caught some of the Pride Parade? Why not?

Why not? If I would have had the energy, if we didn't stay out on Saturday night, I would have went. I've been in the Pride Parade. It's fun. I was a, I have a friend. Man, there's a lot of straight women, too. And you look like the coolest ally ever. Okay.

I was outside. I wasn't like in the, I wasn't, walking or marching or whatever but I was there was marching What do they call it? What the fucking you want to Salma? I wasn't sashing What do they call it?

You had a picket sign like You weren't on a dick float Like 21 Sabbath doing Emerald slut walk You had your picket sign? I drove the Bud Light float What a what? Give me like a march How would you march in that way?

Yeah how would you march? It feels like a lot of like hip swang Yeah I feel like to have hip swing Yeah in a pride march He is not You're not. Demaris, I'm surprised you didn't go

I wasn't in town. Okay. But I would have been, yeah. Prime parade is a lot of fun, Mo. It was fun. I think you would enjoy the proprade. I would have went if I would have remembered it was Sunday. A friend of mine, we went to like a wine bar.

We were sitting on a corner where there was a lot of people and we were just people watching. It was everything. It was so much going on. When is the street parade? When is the straight parade? March 17th. The St. Thanksgiving parade.

March 17th. It's called the Catholicism parade. It's fucking firefighters and cops. And Mad White. Nobody wants to be at that parade, man. Send me to the Pride parade before the straight parade. Oh, the straight parade, we've talked about this. That would be the worst fucking parade ever.

Yeah. It'd be nothing but dudes. It'd be a bunch of men. Yeah. Like, oh, where the bitch is at. They're at the Pride parade where it's fun. Yeah. It's safe.

Where it's fun. A bunch of me going to parade asking where the bitches is crazy. It's like the crowd that went to January 6th. It would be like a bunch of those guys. Yeah. like a fucking freshman dorm in college, just six men around one little TV playing Xbox. Julian, I can see you store. I could see Julian Storm in the Capitol.

Oh, for sure. I mean, not sure. Of everyone on this pod, you're going to put that on me? Yes, that's the ultimate deflection. Because you're family. Me? I would laugh at that. I have a bet.

Yeah, I could probably waltz in there, but I wouldn't. Yeah, your key card works at the Capitol. Your Fob works at the Capitol. They'll do that. Your Fob. He definitely has a capital Fob. You have a Fob to the Capitol door. Julian, you definitely like you would storm the capital.

I don't think you'd paint your face before you go in, but I think you don't. How? Because you look like, you look like you have a friend that would just like, yo, bro, you'll never guess what's going down today at 2 o'clock. You're the Trump guy. No, I'm not. Rich works with the Clintons. Like, my white friend could not be more tied into the Democratic Party. He's Antifa.

He's Antifa. Clinton is worst in Trump. What are you talking about? They kill Gaddafi. Chill, their best friend. Gaddafi was by to his business. What do you talk about? We're trying to get this Bill interview and you're ruining it.

I would love to get it. I'd just like your bill, come, come clean you out of office now. Let's just keep it real. Why y'all did that to Gaddafi? He did nothing. He was kind of money. And did what y'all did to Haiti? Like, are you kidding me?

Like, what are we talking about? Trump didn't do any of that type of shit. They stormed the capital. Whoa, that's bad. Gaddafi's dead. Like, what are you talking about? Just say you're upset that you didn't invest in privatized prisons. Just, well, yeah.

Just be mad that you missed the boom. I didn't get in on that. You're right. I'm mad at that. But, um, 94 crime. Julian definitely was like he put on just a champion hoodie and stormed the cap. I would never storm the cap. No,

he was stormed the cap. Don't put that on me. You're like a frat. I was just at the pride parade. That's a different kind of crowd. No, you had a wine bar that happened to be next to it. You're really versatile.

No, but like I, to my credit. He's super liberal. We were walking around the city and I said, why don't we find somewhere in the West Village? Because I know that's where like the heart of the parade is, the anus of the parade. and I said let's find a wine bar over here

and just like people watch. Yeah, just, you know, right there. No, I get it. This is in New York. Every weekend is fun in New York in the summertime. You know that. Can we at least admit, though, if it was under good terms and a good, I don't know, whatever theme,

storming the Capitol would be a lot of fun. But let's say what they were doing was for like the rights of people. Yeah. That would have been fucking fun. They looked like they had, I was jealous. They had so much fun doing it. That one woman got her head. Well, she, you know, first went through the door.

Yeah. You got to know. She got to know that's coming. That's going to happen. But like everyone that was kind of in the middle, like they looked like they had, they painted their faces. They were yelling. It was a community. Cops were letting them in.

I mean, yeah, they got to break windows. Yeah. I mean, you know, it is what it is. They got, they had pictures that people that even pay top dollar for tours of the Capitol don't even have. I would have loved to touch the Constitution. Like, that looked like so much fucking fun. I wish it was like under the terms of human rights. I wish they would have told me earlier they were going to do that.

I might have went to D.C. You would have? Yeah. Just to be around that show. Yeah. How funny would that be if y'all just got footage of me in the Capitol with a bunch of white dudes like this? You know what you did? You know what's fucked up though?

My curiosity and ignorance, if I was in D.C. at that time and happened to just be walking past what was going on. Yeah. My ignorance and curiosity would have had me follow them. Same. I'd be like, yeah, we going into the capitals is ill. Yeah. Yeah. Like, are you really going in there?

And you just see the doors open? Like if I don't run into the Q&on guy or any of the Make America Great Hats and I'm just like, oh, we're just about to run in. Yeah. I'll be like, I mean, can I come? That's what I'm saying? It's like, oh shit, that's what y'all doing?

Fucking, I might get down with that. Speaking of Storm in the Capitol, Jim Jones, how? Responded to... Virginia, DMV, D.C. They don't see what I'm going. I mean, Virginia Beach is nowhere near D.C. Not even close.

First of all, I do want to say this about this whole Jim Jones push a shit. I'm just happy that Jim responded as fast and as quickly and as aggressively as he did. I agree. This is hip hop. This is what hip hop is. It's a little more words.

You said something slick. I say something slick. You say something slick back. I'm going to talk slicker. So for that, salute to Jim because, you know, everybody didn't think Jim was going to respond when he posted his response to to push your verse. saying that's not a top 50 verse.

I will say the snippet scared me. Of the push the gym response? Phil, I agree. I got nervous. He was shooting a video. He was kind of offbeat with the words and the tempo of the record. But I knew it was a video,

so it didn't really matter if he was on beat or not. But the full one, I thought it was a good response. It was a good response. Now, in no world do I think that Jim Jones rap's better, raps better, raps better than Pushy T. I think Pushy T's a better rapper than Jim Jones. But Jim has been consistent for years. He's put out some dope projects. He's had some dope fucking records. And if we all know Jim Jones, we know he's not ducking nobody. He's not ducking no smoke. So this was, this was for me, it was, this was just dope that Jim

responded so quick and so aggressive because this is what hip-hop. is it's supposed to be competitive you say my name even if you don't say my name and I think you said my name I'm coming right at you so I respect Jim for that and I'm seeing people saying the shit is whack Jim has some bars on there I had some lines in there I thought the uh the roach and raid scheme was cool there was some stuff on there yeah some bars in there that I like and I saw you know of course we see Twitter when these things happen and a nerd nerd at the cool table had tweeted, y'all don't like rap. Y'all like rappers.

Yeah. Because everyone had an issue with Jimmy's reply. And then everyone started talking about accolades and who's had more impact on the culture and push has been nominated for Grammys. But Jim has hit singles. And it's like, can we just deal with what these two are doing that? Yeah. Accolades aside. Two rappers are rapping against each other.

I don't care who's been nominated for a Grammy. Yeah. None of that matters in this situation. I was just happy that the get back, the response was quick and aggressive from Jim. I love that. Now, from here. Yeah.

It could get ugly. It's where it's tough. I don't know if... Good first round. Light shots from both. Good first round. You know. Who y'all think won the first round?

Push up. Do we even have that song yet? No, I don't even think it's on DSPs. See, that's what I'm saying? I need that song. I got to hear that song. I got to get that full song. There's levels to this shit.

Because how long has Jim been swinging at push and push never took the bait? Push waited to premiere a song at the Louis Vuitton fashion. That's what I'm saying. Listen, I get all of that. I get it. It's a different way. It's chess. It's things different when it's at the Farrell Louis Vuitton fact.

I get that. Jim is on the corner. Shout out for the block. That's a great program. I love that. But it's different. This is hip hop. This is rap.

So the fact that Jim is on the block and they get the mic out there and he responds. I like that. It made Lola Pop, right? Yeah. I worked with them a lot when outside Atlantic. They do a really good production.

I like that type of shit. Like, this is rap. If we're going to rap, rap, it don't have to be in Paris. He don't have to be on a runway for a Louis Vuitton fashion show. This is rap. Is this the first round? Or is the round's about to start?

because Jim also, again, did it on a platform where people freestyle. Yeah. Of course it was directed 99% of it at push. He used the same beat. Now is it beginning. Are they now actually decided we're entering the ring? Because I want to see record versus record on different beats, not freestyles. Because even, you know, back in the day when rappers would take shots at each other, they'd go up to flex and do freestyle.

Yeah. Which was great, but we never considered that to be the disc record. Right. this to me is similar to that. Yeah. It was a freestyle. Same beat. Took some light shots, but opened up the floor for push now to say whatever the fuck he wants. That's what's kind of nuts.

So I'm which... Went light but also allowed push clearance to say whatever the fuck he wants now. I think that this is like, because it's like you don't, what they say, the playoffs don't start until you lose at home, right? That series doesn't start to you. So now... Jim responded, but Jim is the one that seemingly started this whole thing by his, you know, his disdain for Pusher being named Top 50 rappers of all time.

He obviously didn't like that. He was very aggressive in his opinion on that for a few days on a few different platforms. So Jim kind of took the first shot. But as far as the music and rapping, Pusher took the shot first. So I think I would say that this is the that was the first round. I would say that was the first round. Puscher responded to, you know, what was being said about him. And Jim responded to Push's versus that's the first round.

Now, the second round does Pursher put out another verse, I believe he will. I believe Push already has a bunch of shit recorded. He's mentioned in interviews in the past that he has files upon files of every single rapper in the rap world just in case. But as a rapper, I think that you should. Agreed. You should have a file of, because you always know kind of sort of which rapper you're going to end up bumping heads with a little bit. It's a feeling that you have when you in a room and you kind of meet somebody and you're like, yeah, I mean, he cool, but I don't really fuck with him like that.

But I can't see push a being able to predict. Dick Jimmy coming at him. I don't think he saw that from the very beginning. I don't think he saw him. I don't think he saw him coming at him the way it happened with the whole top 50 rappers list. I don't think Pushers saw that. But I do kind of sort of feel like Pushing may have felt like, you know. After that Drake Alliance. Yeah. I think he may have felt like

all right. I'm going to, he's on the list now. Yeah. Yeah. I think any rapper that goes near Drake, push kind of, you're on the list now. Just has in his mind. things could go that way. I think 21 Savage journalists? Yes. Oh, for sure. I just don't think 21 like would take a shot.

Yeah, I don't think that either. But if necessary, I think Puscher has that ready to go as well. Like he just pushes a rapper. He's a rapper's a rapper's rapper. He's going, he don't mind rapping. He don't mind getting in the booth putting bars together. I got into a debate with somebody who was like, his main thing was since when did Pursher become whole to y'all?

Because everybody on the internet was like, yo, he's about to demolish Jimmy. I like, it's over for him. And he was like, when did push and become hold? Like, when did he just become this artist that everybody should be afraid of? And I'm like, he won a battle with everyone's goat, Drake. He's been coming at rappers. Like, this is his arena.

It's the same thing as if somebody challenged M&M to rap about random shit in a room. You're not, no matter what you think about M&M, that's a battle you're not going to beat. I don't want to ever see that battle. He knows more. Yeah, he knows more household items than you could ever. Exactly. Like, so it's not saying that Pusher is home or not. Guess what room I'm in?

But when it comes to Diss's, that's his arena. That's where he shines. He is who to be afraid of when it comes to that. Pusher has, he has sent bars at Wayne, Drake, Jim now. I might want to, whoever you were debating with. I may want to play on the other side of this one. He's only betting one rap battle.

He has one disc record. Push a T. He had beef with like McDonald's, too. though. For writing the general? Yeah, he wrote, he wrote. Arby's. Yeah, he wrote a...

He cooked the shit out of McDonald's. He did, and those were great. But, I mean, is he super battle tested? Of course, beating Drake is a huge thing to say. I mean, that's one of those stats. He sent shots at Wayne forever.

Don't get me wrong. Of course, he said, you signed to one dude, just signed another dude. That's like, yeah, he's throwing in shots. He's a great rapper. That doesn't mean this is his arena. It was the same thing

when you and I were debating about Meek and Drake. and you were like, this is Meek's arena. I'm like, since when? Well, Meek used to do battle raps, though. Way different than raping on the sidewalk in Philly in front of a camera than doing this. So push, yeah, I guess he's a battle rapper. I mean, I guess when you- He's good, he's good at dissing.

Even if he doesn't put out battle raps or diss songs, he's good at dissing. He's going to throw shots. He's always dissing somebody. It's not only that. He push it to you is just, he's a, he's a, he's a, real rapper. He can really rap. And he's proven that he is battle tested because, again, he had to battle with one of the

biggest artists ever in Drake. So you can kind of look at it and say, all right, this dude is not scared of this type of arena. He's been in this ring. Now, obviously, you know, Jim is not the caliber of a rapper of a Drake. But again, Jim ain't ducking no smoke. He's coming right at you. he want all anything you want to however you want to do it gym is with it so i mean you know

to me this is what rap is supposed to be this is what hip hop is supposed to be as long as again it doesn't turn into into anything other than some some records and some bars i'm all for this type of shit well there was obviously the rumor that drake had a response to push that j prince came in and said it's too messy don't do it we assume that was more so on the conier side that it was going to get messy. We don't know, but we all just assumed he was about to say like, yo, I fuck him or something. Which on Scorpion, he went on to all 27 records. We think Drake has called Jimmy

with some of the intel that he received that is in this record that never came out that maybe Jim will now have access to. If it's push-related. I think the messiness was Kanye related, but there could have been some push-shit in there. I think Drake is mine in his business. I don't think so at all. No.

Oh, no, two things can be true. He's minding his business, but. He did send a file. Jim hits him and say, yo, I need some, you know, he could live like a guy. You ain't here for me, but yada, yada, yada. But push his he going to know where Jim heard that. That's fine. And he's going to come for Drake's ass again.

I don't think Drake. That's fine. Yep. That's fine. This is hip. This is hip hop. This is rap. I love it, too.

I'm extremely. Yeah, let's rap. Let's write. Ain't anybody else who got to turn it to, again, man. Let's not make it corny and it turn into anything physical. Let's not go that route. That's the corny shit. That's corny.

Let's keep it rap. Let's talk shit. And then if y'all want to piece it a couple years down the line and say, listen, that was a moment. Cool. If not, if it's fuck both of y'all forever, then fuck both of y'all. Then let it be that too. This is the fun part of the older, like this generation that pushes the Drake's. That generation is, that generation is,

just keeps it all on records. And I think it's healthy when there is beef, there's tension like this in hip hop and you keep it on the records because this also sets an example to the younger kids who have a tendency to react with physical violence. And they can see the goats of the current hip hop scene

keeping it all on lyrics. Well, respect. No one gets touched. Nobody gets touched. Let's just keep it going. Let's keep it music. Let's keep it bars. Let's keep it hip hop.

Just keep it rap. This is the essence of it battling. You know what I mean, this is what hip hop. is. You know, I got an issue with him. I don't like him. Okay, well, let's talk about it. Turn the beat on. And then let's go. So, you know, I love it, man. Again, I'm, I was reading a lot of the comments and people saying, you know, the gym shit was trashed. It wasn't feeling and the, listen, I respected. It was right. It was direct. It was aggressive. It was immediate

response. It wasn't no, it was what, two days maybe? Yeah. At most, 48 hours. I like that response time. That's quick. That's fascinating to the EMS in New York. You gotta love it. I really hope push doesn't get in the world of like... I'm too big to respond. I'm too big to respond to this. Y'all, I send some shots on a real song. I'm rolling out this clips project. I don't get that from Push it over, man.

I don't either, but I just have this weird... I think push like this type of shit. He'd do, but is he going to do that with Jim Jones? I think so. I hope so. I think so. But he has to do it quick. Like, I don't want to wait six months.

Oh, no, no, no, no. For a Jim Jones response. Six months. I don't want to wait. six days. You know what I'm saying? Like, so I said, I love the fact that Jim right to it. Because I was, I ain't going to lie. I felt like once Jim posted that, nah, that shit was whack. I said, you know, Jim, you got to respond. I ain't think Jim was going to respond. But the fact that he did and the way that he did, the video on the block,

let me just get up from my beach chair, sipping my nutcrack and just go at this dude real quick. I like that type of shit, man. So shout out the gym. And shout out to push it because now, I mean, I feel like even though you said you don't know if he would, I mean, I feel like, even though you said, you don't know if he would. I feel like push is definitely responding. I hope so. Also over the weekend, speaking of Drake, he announced his first poetry book, I believe, is what it is.

Titles Ruin Everything. Stream of Consciousness by Kenza Samir and Aubrey Graham. An album was supposed to go with it. I believe he pushed it back because of the young thug release this past Friday. Thinks why his caption was saying, Doug, you owe me. For All the Dogs is the name of the album. He says, I made an album to go with the book.

They said, he missed the old Drake, girl, don't tempt me for all the dogs. I mean, you got to assume... This is the album for us, Rory. Honestly, never mind. It was for a specific crowd. I enjoyed it, but we do love rapping Drake. That's what I think this message is saying. Is this the full, full rap Drake album that we've been waiting for?

I think so. You don't? You don't? He released it with a part. home book? I don't think so. But it's for all the dogs. I think that means he's just going to go back to rapping about... For the dogs.

Dog nigger shit. Yeah. Us. Yes, but I don't think that. This is our moment. Demaris, I won't let you step on this, all right? This is for us. Matter of fact, don't even download this album, Demaris. This ain't for you. I'm a dog. No, you not. Listen to you not. You are not a dog.

You are not a dog. I watched you sob and soak in your fucking depression when that nigga left you for three months, DeMaris. That ain't dog nigga shit. You like Baisley. y'all let this nigga rewrite history because I never happened y'all let this nigga rewrite history is hilarious

that I never happened y'all won y'all let this nigga rewrite history because I ain't never did that holy shit she got her get back who, Damaris? You know how she comes

I see not I see her come I was about to say I seen DeMaris coming that would have came across crazy but I seen DeMaris get on her bullshit I definitely seen Demaris get on her bullshit before but she's a female offset

She is the female offset I don't wait Hold on well No It took it to five months I never I never volunteered to be that All right

But this album For all the dogs And de Maris Listen man I feel like this is the album we wanted for Drake I feel like this is him Talking that shit

This is I think this is a full rap album I think everything around It the poem I don't even know if I could call it Is it a poem book He called it his first poetry book I don't know if he's being sarcastic

Or not No it's a poetry book Oh great Well I mean I don't know I got a feeling This is a fuck and you're going to open that book

and it's going to be one letter in it in one picture. I mean, titles ruin everything is a great title for it. It's a great fucking title. I wouldn't be mad if that was the name of the album.

I mean, I get for the dogs them and all that type of shit, but... For all the dogs. I think this is the full rap album that we've won from Drake on those type of beats,

that real hip-hop shit. I think this is it. Something tells me this is. I don't think we're going to get no R&B on this. Not too many melodies. I think this is a full, full rap project.

And it's just dope. The fact that this was kind of came out of left field we didn't see this album happening so soon uh prediction we get our first drake and naz collab oh just just a thought i have no information at all i just that's my first thought naz and drake for the first time hmm i like i think that's the big big rap surprise on this one we've got three stacks already we've gotten hove he's done his checklist with some of the biggest artists still no Nause and Drake record from my recollection

unless there's like some remix I don't know about but that's just a guess I'm gonna say that there aren't no features on this album okay trying to get cold the fuck out of here nah not like that I just feel like I feel like this is just the album of Drake

just going off just him talking his shit. I think we get a few morale bars. Maybe. I definitely think a few of those are happening. I think we get some Kendrick smoke on this one. He should.

I think he thinks he's down now. His auntie just became a man. He's going through the therapy album. I want that battle would happen so bad. That Hillbilly record was all Drake. I want, no, I want a real, the way we got pushing, the way Jim was on the block with that microphone, I want Drake and Kendrick just like that.

Do you? Absolutely. But you don't think Drake watched that team and Tyler and Kendrick having a blast at Dodger Stadium. Of course he did. It didn't just see everything. Of course. Of course. Of course.

I don't know if he was mad. But I mean, I think he saw that and was like, all right. Because I still, and I know it sounds crazy, but I still feel like for reasons that may make sense. But I still feel like Drake as successful as he is, a lot of people still doubt. his rapping ability. I agree. I feel like, and it's the craziest shit to say that

because he is who he is. But I still feel like he needs that, which is why the Drake push a battle for me was, again, it got cut short because of whatever reasons. But I feel like that was needed for Drake. He needed that. He needed to be battle tested.

He needed to kind of like, you know, show people like, yo, I could do this. Don't get it twisted. I know, y'all know me as this songmaker, it is hit maker, but I can really like going on these bars because they can really go at y'all.

Drastically different than back to back. Oh, back to back was just genius in the one-liners that we sang along to. Dupy, he was rapping, rapping. But we'll see. I mean, I think Drake definitely

doesn't owe anyone, but owes that rap album that makes it undeniable to people that say he's not a great rapper, like, they're going to force themselves to try to hate this and they're going to look nuts.

I think this is it. I think this is the album. Again, I can't wait to come in here. After that, I don't come out and be totally wrong. Because, you know, we can never, we try to, I mean, I did predict the Scorpion R&B rap to this shit. But this one, I don't know. I think that this is the rap, rap Drake shit. Do you believe that this is the trilogy?

Like, people keep putting the names of the last few projects in a row. Like, they say, honestly, never mind, her loss for all the dogs. They think it's like a, you know what I mean? Yeah, I saw that sentence. I don't think there's a through line. They're so different. I think those are people that are just trying to like figure out Drake and getting his mind too much and see what he's about. And just enjoy the titles and the music.

Well, if we do get this Drake album on Friday, I know we're the Drake Dick riding podcast. But we are not me. We are? I mean, you're not. I didn't say enough for that. I mean. When her loss came out in London, that's all we, the whole tour was just her loss. It's been a year and we'll have three Drake projects in one year.

Yeah. In a year's time. That's fucking incredible. Like what other rap legend has done that? Like DMX did that one year back-to-back albums that was incredible. But the cycle of albums with legends,

that's fucking nuts. Yeah. Because I think it'll be what? Honestly, never mind. It was one year ago last week, right? A little over a year, yeah. So he was trying to release it on the same day. Doug went instead.

So yeah, you're getting three Drake albums. Her loss came out in October. that's great. Early November, I believe. Yeah. It was when we were in London. That deserves some respect, in my opinion. Yeah. Especially the caliber of those.

Great projects. Well, we'll see on this one. So Young Thug dropped his album, Business is Business. Been it, Benin. We finally got the project. People were excited to hear what Young Thug had to say if he was going to address certain things. If certain someone's would be on the album or not.

Certain someone's. Certain someone's. Gunner. Okay. So we got the answer to that. Gunner was not on the album. So do we now feel like Thug is not fucking with Gunna anymore? Well, I don't know if that secreted, recorded voicemail was AI or not?

That was definitely AI. They said it was AI. It's been addressed. It was AI? It was AI. Okay. Well, I don't know. Maybe he just didn't have.

Any space on the album for him? Or maybe there just wasn't records that he wanted to put on? You know, it was a lot. It's okay. Hit two Drake. I know, but it's okay. It's okay to say it. He's not fucking gonna.

He's not fucking gonna. No, he's not fucking one gonna. Again, I don't know if that's just for this album or that's a person. Like for life, just not fucking one. I don't know. Well, because most of this was recorded, if not all, before the case, this looks like a clear intention to take Gunna off. Because you know they had records together. Oh, absolutely.

Tons that could have went on there and didn't. so yeah I think that's a clear indication of what is going on also because there's a lot of fucking mid on here too oh dear so it's not like there was a flawless 11 records and that one gun a record just didn't fit like there's mad records that I'm sure gunna and thug have that are better than these so that's a clear indication to me that he is not fucking gunner it's also a clear indication to me of you know not being a free man when you're trying to put out art and put our music and put things together, how it affects you. Because to me, I think that was noticeable on this album.

You can tell that, you know, while most, if not all of the music, may have been recorded prior, there's probably some things that young thug would have wanted to change some verses. Yeah. Some hooks, different production, tweak some things here and there. So you just can tell that, you know, this was something. this was an album that was done already and they had to kind of dress it up and get it out to the people. But it was a hard drive full of records.

Yeah. That's what it sounded like. Even the complete records didn't feel like they were done, if that makes sense. The stuff that seemed polished still felt out of whack. It just wasn't it. But what does it say about the people in Gunner, the fact that Young Thug is projected to sell more? Currently, current projection is at 110.

I said 110, right? I said, the three of us said. So what does that say? Is that a clear indication that because people have expressed that they like the gun album, they enjoy it? I think the gun album is better. So what does that say, though? Is it clear? Have people taken aside in this whole thing?

No matter what, everyone was going to listen to the Thug album, even if you were just a casual Thug thing. Well, Thug is the bigger artist, obviously. For sure. But everything that's happening around. found him too. Of course everyone's going to click it no matter who you are. There was some people with a gun of shit trying to stand on their, I hate snitches things. I'm not going to listen, even though we know they probably listened. But you got everyone to listen to Thug shit. Right. I'm actually

kind of shocked it's at 110. I thought it'll be close to 120. It would have went higher. I don't think it's at the caliber of those numbers, but he did have the moment. All eyes were on Thug. It's one of the biggest cases yet in hip hop. So, yeah, of course, of course. course everyone's going to click it could have been dog shit and people are going to click it right now is it dog shit uh by thug standards i think so yeah now it's dog shit is harsh but i it's definitely by young thug caliber of music not good this is not one of his better albums no it's worth of them and i'm i'm strictly going to say the fact that he's going through he's going through he's not home for sure he would have wanted to change a lot on

this project that he obviously couldn't from jail um now thug is obviously the bigger artist than Gunner. Is he a better artist than Gunner? Yes. Yes. Significantly. I think Gunner makes

great music for his era. I don't think he's a bad rapper either. Thug is just a different level of nerd fans are going to hate me. Different level of musician.

Like Thug isn't an artist for real. Yeah. So I don't think it's very comparable. But I would say that about Thug compared to most artists in his generation. I would say for his peers, he's on a way higher level of creating melodies,

rapping, creating songs. Like, he's just, he's stuck. He's definitely a unique artist, especially, you know, coming in when he did. He was just, he stood out immediately. Like, as soon as you heard Thug, he was just a whole different type of artist, different type of sound tone. Again, like you said, melodies. So it is good to see that people are still supporting him.

Is there a standout track on this that you guys... I like the June with Him in the Future. I forgot the name of that. I mean, I just came out. I can't remember the titles. The German of Him and Future is dope. Obviously, the intro would... Cars Bring Me Out.

That's the Future. It's dope. Cars Bring Me Out? Yeah, I like that. That Drum with Future is hard. Prade on Cleveland. It was cool. I think had he been out, that could have been like a real record.

It felt like a incomplete Drake song that Thug took. and then put the voicemail shit on it and then put his verse at the end. That's one of those that I think really could have been a record had he been outside. It was cool. He could have held that. I like the other, oh, you went, Drake feature much better. That record's cool. Other than that, just me personally, there's not really any standout.

I like that cause bring me out shit with him in future. I like that record a lot. But, yeah, so, I mean, it is good to see that people are still supporting Thug. between 110 and 120 first week. Solid numbers. I mean, depending on if this Drake album comes on Friday, let's say it doesn't, I still think his second week numbers

are going to be drastically, drastically lower than usual. Yeah. I don't think very many people are going back to this. Again, that's the effect of, again, you know, not being able to move around, you know, roll out, press, promote. Videos. Change verses, change music, add things here.

You know, it's a lot to kind of try to, you know, put an album out and you're not a free man. So, you know, we got to always factor that in whenever we talk about or go back and listen to this album, that Young Thug was going through arguably the worst and toughest time of his life. Do you think Gunner's been avoiding post-promo album release? Because it was quick. They didn't do much pre-promo. I mean, of course, he's going to have to answer certain questions. But I'm kind of shocked he didn't even do, like, just.

just a one interview sit-down thing and call it press. Not a whole run, but I shocked he didn't sit with one particular person. I'm shocked he didn't maybe go on Gillian Wallow shit. Well, I know they're really close with Doug, so I don't know if that could work. But I'm just shocked on it and do one single interview. I mean, he didn't have to. You think it was more just like let them, because he knew he addressed a lot of it in the music itself. You think he just wanted to speak.

And people are already talking about him. The fact that he's putting out music. Yeah. People are talking about them, expressing their feelings and opinions about them. I mean, it's nothing to do an interview about. Let my album be the interview. Let me answer whatever questions you have about me and my artistry. Let me answer it through this album.

I think, you know, I understand how an interview may have helped him, but I think that he didn't want to sit down and do an interview and say something that he regretted once the interview came out or have that affect people's opinion even more about him and not support his album, not download his album, not listen to his music, you know. So I think he just was like, let me just put my music out and stay where I'm at, stay in my corner and just, you know, exist in my own world right now.

So, I mean, I'm not mad at it. And it's a good, it's a good album. It could also look like he's hurting more of his friends or ex-friends if he goes and does an interview. Even though he took a plea and now was allowed to talk about everything. Yeah. Probably still would be viewed kind of crazy. Annie might have been nervous he couldn't top the

Cuando Rondo, Angela Yee interview. I'd feel the same way. Ma'am! Don't do that at the cue. Brough. And I swear that was not a shot at Angela Yee. That is a legendary interview. That is one of the greatest interviews I've ever seen in my life.

Miss ma'am! I love hip-hop. You have to watch that interview first fully through looking at Cuando, but then the next time, just look at Angela. Block out Quando. from your vision. If you can. Just stare at Angela the entire time.

It makes that interview ten times funnier. Business is business available now. Download on your DSPs. Support Young Thug. Definitely one of our dopest and most unique artists that we have. So we always want to support the ones that sound and are themselves. Where, just quickly, where is the trial at right now? Do we have?

Not sure. Well, hasn't even went to trial yet. His attorney, I just, while I was. looking it up here, just filed a motion to get anything that's five years prior to the RICO, to the RICO being sent, wiped from the record. So if that's the case, I don't think that would change much in the scope of him coming out, but it would maybe alleviate some of the sentence to pretty much. Listen, when I heard that tape come out of them in court and the prosecutors were like,

I don't care, we don't care about the other ones. we just want him. Yeah. That told me everything I needed to know about this case. When they feel like that and they're vocally saying that, because you can tell when they feel like that, you can be, yo, they got a hard on for him. Like they want him bad.

But to hear them say it, to hear them in the courtroom and say, no, we want him. That's letting me know what I need to know. I've been in the courtroom when people was in that type of situation and it's, you know, all of those people go back to the judge's chambers and they talk. The DA, the lawyers, like they all, when they leave that courtroom, they have a relationship

with each other. And when they say things like that in the courtroom, it's not good. That means, like, they don't give a fuck. They want you and only you. Yeah. What they're saying is, Your Honor, I'm trying to get a promotion from a highly publicized case so I can then eventually run for some government position. That's what they're saying.

Absolutely. Your Honor, I need a promotion. I've been a DA for way too long. Yeah. I want to get into politics. So let me arrest this rapper. Jesus. So I'll move up and get promoted.

It's bad, man. But, you know, prayers, prayers to thug, prayers to his family. And hopefully he comes out of this soon and is able to be back with his loved ones and just a free man. Because, again, you know, it's tough to be in a situation where you're out, making music travel in the world, you know, taking care of your family. And then the next, you know, you're sitting in a jail looking at some time that nobody would ever. want to do. So, you know, prayers and good luck to him. Can you legally get prescription drugs, like from a doctor in jail? Yeah. They have, they have, they have a nurse, the doctors. There's definitely got to be a doctor out there that can get, get thugs and legal perks.

That may just get high for a second. We can really think this case through. That's tough because I think you would have to prove that you need it for fake medicine. What are a perk sets for? It's like a pain, it's like a painkiller. Okay. I've never taken a perk. It's like if you break your back of a serious injury, people take them for recovery. But then that's an easy thing to get addicted to. Yeah. So you just get addicted to that numbness.

Like oxy. Yeah, what they do, like oxy, hydros, perks. Like, all what they do is make you so high that you forget that you're in pain. They're not actual pain killers. They're just numbing agents. Yeah. When I pulled my hamstring, they gave me oxy, I took that, the actual prescribed amount once and I fucking

hated it. I was high as shit. I was like, I don't like this at all. like it made me feel awful. Yeah, I had. It took the pain away, but, ugh. I can only imagine people taking more than what's prescribed. The only time I ever took a perk, I had my first and only tooth I ever had in my life. And that perk made me feel like I was a straight dope head.

You was doing a dope feeling. My stomach was fucked up. Don't drilling this shit. My ass was itching. What? It was all kind of shit going on. I was like, what the? You niggas take this for recreation?

You should have washed your ass. Oh my God. You said I should just wash my ass. Yeah. That's not why my ass was itching. Oh, I... If you think my ass is chucked full of shit or something? Trying to poop that perk out.

Same a dude you think you're talking to right there. Take up this dirty, stinky nigga? I mean, so what if Thug, like, does some real fiend shit and, like, jumps off the second floor of the prison and just purposely breaks his leg? Could he then get some perks? Oh, I thought he's talking about, like, what's his name? What Bundy did where he jumped out the courtroom and was on a lamb? The lamb. How many A&E mob shows have you watched?

You think somebody that says the lamb wouldn't storm the capital? Are you fucking kidding? No, they wouldn't. Are you kidding me? The lamb. You were on the lamb with Q and on. Exactly. It caught his ass.

Storm to fucking capital. The lamb. All right, well, we got some. Stop watching Fear City on Netflix. I don't even know what that is. We got some voicemails. This is Eddins' favorite part of the show. Always.

This first one is directed at mall, but I think everyone can answer. Directed at me. It's definitely directed at me. Hey guys. I am Lauren a 30-something with curly hair living in Cleveland.

38. Curly. This message is from all. So I had a baby via anonymous sperm donor and I followed your instructions verbatim. I became a nun.

I have not left the house. I haven't even looked a man in the eye since giving birth. But it's been like two and a half years and is it okay if I get back out there now? Like, am I good to start dating again? A girl needs help.

So if you have like a 90-day reentry program, I can find in your link tree. Please let me know. Also, I would like to wish Roy a belated, happy father's day. Thanks. Welcome to the club. Love you guys. All right. So what was the advice that you gave?

What program is you talking about? That's what I was trying to. Women can't have sex after birth for two years? Not two years, but I don't know which program she signed up for. But we'll be happy to refund this lady if she was giving wrong information. I just think it's funny that she's been so faithful to her sperm donor. Yeah. She hasn't gone out for two and a half years.

Not looked at a man. All you did was take the come. Oh, my God, bro. Is that not what it is? I mean, you're right, but Jesus. I would say this. Her name is Rosie? Yeah.

Rosie. I thought it was Lauren. Oh, Lauren, I'm sorry. Lauren. Lauren from Cleveland. Yes, Lauren. Listen, that, that, that cat is ready.

You got to take that cat out on the stroll. Bounce back. Yeah, you got to go out there and make sure it still works. In order to know the car is still running, you got to spin it around the block. Put some miles on it. Yeah, you got to spin it around a block a few times, get on the highway, get off somewhere. You know what I mean? How to open her up?

Yeah, get that cat out there. So nasty. You know, let somebody test. drive it a little bit. Wow. You know, make sure the buttons still work and everything like that. And yeah, go out there and have some fun. You deserve it.

It'd be interesting to date a woman that has a kid from a sperm donor. They could actually make me feel a little bit better. Why? Like no baby father drama. Also, no baby father. Yeah, like I could almost even feel like this is my kid, not just step kid. Because like, no one really knows to that. But what if you're not ready for a kid, that's what I'm saying?

Like, the baby has no father. Yeah, it's like practice. It's like practice. It's true. it is. I'm the opposite side of that. If I was to meet a girl and we out talking and I'm like, yo, so you know, tell me about you know, the relationship with your child's father.

Oh, no, I had an anonymous sperm donor. I'm like, nobody wanted to come inside you. Come on. That's not. That does not connect. That is a mall ass. No wonder this girl hasn't had sex in two and a half years. Listen to them. Listen to the mall. Look at the niggas that's outside. I'm just saying you couldn't find anybody to have sex

when they have a kid with? I don't think that's... Just out of desperation, it's not someone coming to me. Not someone, but you can date a guy and like, like, like, like, like him and feel like, yo, we should, we could have a family? That sounds way messier if you're not ready to just have a kid with that person, but ready to have a kid, you can, no drama. Yeah.

You can't... Edens' friends in Cleveland. I just, I just can't... Oh, my God. I don't know. I'm just, I don't know. I just think that if a girl tells me she has a kid because she has an anonymous sperm donor, but then also...

I just have a lot of other questions. What if he's not ready to have a kid either? Like, yeah, but at least you got a man. Like, you know what I'm saying? But that could be way more toxic if you're ready to have a kid. He comes inside of you and then he's like, ooh. Not really ready for all that. Damn.

Yeah, but I mean. Do you know that like, Mall is so fucking funny. You know that like sometimes men, how can I put this? Sometimes men can tell you that they want to have kids with you and like, you know, like back out of them. a lot of times. Yeah, Freddie Gibson just did that.

Allegedly. You also know that when you have a kid with somebody, they're like, you're not just having a kid. You're locked in with them for the rest of your life. Yeah, but I just think having an anonymous sperm donor, like, I don't know, like, I need to know about the person. Why do you need to know about the person?

I feel like for someone, like, if I'm dating a girl and she has a kid, like I might end up being with this girl for real long term. I need to know what type of genes your kid has in him. Like, what does he go or her? What is she going to go? show you, probably to show you the, yeah. Do you feel the same way about like adoption if you were dating

a girl that adopted? Yeah. Wait, what, bro? But. All right. But if I'm going to be, I have to take in your, I'm going to be a stepdad, right? We talked about this, I think, last episode when you date the girl who's the father just completely disappeared. That's the same thing. Or died. In the better scenario, dad. Yeah, but at least at least, at least you kind of like, you, you know, like, she doesn't know who the sperm donor is.

She has to have. She has to have. She has to have. women that have kids with dudes that they can. She said it's an anonymous sperm donor. Maybe anonymous meaning. You can be anonymous. The guy. You know his genes. But she has, I'm certain she has like the statue height, like built, hair color, all that kind. She has. We have a friend that did it. I won't say her name. And yeah, she told me that they go through everything. Like, you don't know who it is, but you know a lot about. Yeah. But you can choose to be anonymous, though. Because I know a girl that's donating her eggs and she's straight up anonymous. Yeah, anonymous, I think, just as far as Name, Social Security, like being able to go find that person, you're anonymous, but you still have to present your health shit. Oh, no, you have to take all of that before.

Absolutely, it's a health thing. But I'm saying you still don't know, I would want to know who sperm this is. You know how any women we know that know their baby father, but don't know him at all? Like, just after a few times, he nutted inside of her and now they have a kid and yeah but what if I know that

nigga I could tell her son to him like yo that's your baby father oh he's a piece of shit I could have been told you that but what does that have to go to the room I don't know who is mom's why would you have to know what kind of genes the kid has like what could because if I'm if I'm stepdad now right I meet this girl

she'd be cool hit it off with great compatible we love each other so now it's stepdad she is right I got to know do this little dude have the gene and them to come in here and try to bite me one day. Like, I don't know what's up with him. Like, what he got going on? What tree he fell from?

What bus does he ride to school? Yeah. Like, you need to know those things. I think that's a part of it. Especially, I'm just, again, I'm speaking on because... So you're saying those things could change the way that you enter into this relationship. Absolutely. So if I'm dating a girl, I would have to be around her child. So if her kid was the type to, let's say the kid was, had special needs in school. Right? That would affect whether you want to be with this woman or not. Even if he didn't, it would probably affect if I want to be with it or not.

He don't have to have special needs. He could just be a disrespectful little kid. I'm like, yo, I can't deal with this. But disrespectful little kids are raised. So that means she's raising him to be disrespectful. No, I know some kids that had a straight and narrow childhood. When they hit high school, totally different. And that's because their father was.

Oh, yeah, he locked up. He's doing 20. All right. So give me the baby father interview then. let's say you're dating the woman that knows her baby father. You want to be stepdad, but you want to make sure this kid isn't crazy. Do you interview the baby father?

Like what? No, no, no. Like tell me about your childhoods. No, you want to talk to the woman about her relationship with him. What happened? You know, why they didn't work out? You know, is he still active? Is he taking care of his kid?

You know, whatever, whatever. Like, you have those things. Now, if you have an anonymous sperm donor, you can't answer those questions. Is that not? Because they're not important questions. Because if it's an anonymous sperm daughter, you don't, anonymous sperm donor,

you don't need to know if he's in the life or not. No, no, not, but you still need to know the type of kid. Like who, that's something you need to know their family. Like, what type of family does this guy come from? Mental health, like that thing, those things are all things that can affect your child. Like, you just have a lot of questions. If you don't know who the sperm donor is, it can be anybody. Like, that's a little tough for us a dude to be like, okay.

Isn't that involved now with? There's a thorough process. Donate sperm? I don't, I'm not sure. They do a, it's a third. It's pretty thorough.

Let's let anyone walk in, nut in a cup and then like leave. It's pretty thorough. You have to pass a certain level of like health, blood testing, all that shit. Okay. That's cool.

There's like there's some barometer before you. Well, let me see his, let me see the LinkedIn. True. Okay. Oh, whatever they call it.

The chart on the baby. Yeah. Let me just see it. Pull it up. Yeah. Pull it up. Let me see this thing. Well,

Lauren, to answer your question, Mall is interested. Um, If you want to come. Wait, don't you know the train route from Cleveland to hear? Nope.

Never heard of it. No. Maybe you can. I know someone that could probably recommend. Yeah, the Amtrak route. It's 13 hours. Yeah.

Yeah. Well, Lauren, get out there and, you know, let somebody test drive that. That hell cat. The Nani. It's a summer.

Get outside. Yeah. Cleveland summers. And congrats on your kid. See what busy bones doing. Congrats on your kid. Don't McMall Phil. And the other men will not want to see the car facts on your fucking child.

So don't listen to them all. Other men won't even have a relationship with your child. Say that too. It also sounds like she just wants some dick. I don't want to scare her into thinking that men won't want. Men love single mothers. Don't let them all scare. Yeah, they do love.

Of course men love single mothers. Men love women. Okay about a kid. They don't take care of their own kid. What do we got next? Okay, next. This kind of goes from coming off the last question, this one kind of flows into this one. Hey, what's up, Rory, Maul, Edd, and Juliana.

My name is Juan. I'm calling him from Los Angeles. It's in regards to you all talking about being a stepfather. So my girl got an aunt who was in a relationship for about three, four years, had a kid with the man. And then she went from one weekend being with him and his family in Big Bear to the following weekend. She brought a new man. Anyways, within a month, this guy moved in with him with him, who, by the way, is 10 years older than her.

He's about 45. immediately she tells the three-year-old to call him dad dad to call his actual dad by his first name that's what's up anyways last weekend i heard the new man called the kid daddy and i thought it was weird as fuck do you all agree my girl said i was a bugger he heard the kid called i think he said that backwards yeah yeah yeah he heard the the kid called the new daddy the new dad daddy and that's his kid No. No. That's his friend's kid.

His friend's kid. He heard his friend's kid called his friend's baby mom's new boyfriend, Daddy. Yeah. Yeah, that's a bit much. But the actual baby, like he calls him by his first name?

Yeah. That's kind of safe. The mom told her to do that. That sounds like baby mother spite. That sounds like programming right there. That baby is being programmed. That's strictly spite to your ex. I feel like.

Oh, yeah. If you're bringing some new dude and immediately telling him, my kids to call him dad you're just you're mad at me and that's it yeah yeah and you're a and you're a terrible mother and you're yeah yeah that's lame by the mom you're letting your shittiness of a partner override your goodness of a mother like you don't don't don't have nobody don't have no see because now that's just a dangerous because now the real father naturally he's going to feel away and then now what now him and the new boyfriend have a beef

you see what I'm saying like those are the games that some spite for women would try to play like let me see these two fight for me and then then be surprised when he makes big bear look like Christopher Dorners there again right exactly so yeah that's fucked up that that that's fucked up don't don't have nobody calling don't have my child calling no no new boyfriend of your daddy when you might not even be with this dude another two money what should do is equally as six she she met her match like maybe she should stay with this guy because they both sound equally as sick. Yeah, because he's letting it

happen. I wouldn't even I'd be like, yo, whoa, whoa, I am not your daddy. Like, I would tell a kid dad. Like, I'm not your daddy. Like, you know who your dad is. You know who you're like, like, no. And didn't he say that there was another dude that she brought up like the week before

and this was a new to? She was with her, she was with her baby dad and they had a whole family and then like maybe like two weeks later she had a whole new boyfriend. They broke up. And in that span. Oh, so now we know why they broke up. She's calling. making her kid call the new guy yeah that's just the victim is the kid

because now you're just confusing this poor kid like that's fucked up that's selfish as hell and this is the type of shit that if they posted on like a shade room or something it'd be nothing but women in the comments like yes queen do you that's so powerful that's your baby yeah that's your baby

find your man and love your child that's awful no I hope that's not true it is step daddy season though no it's not what is that what is the off season yeah like what's like groundhogs What is that? What is that? Did the stepson see a shadow? What is that?

What is that? How was it step daddy season? That's funny. What is that? Like, when did that happen? When did that become a thing? When didn't they start saying that? Step daddy season?

I don't know. I got fucking kids. I read it on the Shade room. Who started that? Exactly to Rory's point. Exactly. That's why I said it. Didn't what's the name?

What's her name? Brittany Renner. Didn't she start that? Probably. Step daddy season? Probably. She had just had a baby with Washington that played with the Hornets. And they broke up not too far after she had the child.

And then she was at like a game or something. And she was like, yo, it's stepdaddy season. I think that was the first time I think I've ever seen that. And then I think big, big sexy red or whatever name is, tripled down on it in Poundtown. She was out looking for someone to raise her son. She was looking for the hose. You're right, Maul. She, in the video.

Happy. Did you see the clip during commercial break when she was performing that song? They were like playing it at the BET Awards and all the execs from BET were right in front of her in suits just looking appalled at everything she was saying. Was it funny than when they had Bobby Schmerter dancing on the table? That was sick. That was fucking hilarious. So, that was just weird. Yeah.

Anyway. Nasty times. What do we got next? We're going to get off the stepdad. train and get into more relationship stuff. But it's the season for it. Right. It's the season to raise someone.

Sorry, Brittany Runner. You'd make a good step down. It was good, Roy. It was good, Ma. Ed and Damaris, Julian, you know me, a big fan of y'all. My name's Darnell. I'm out of Texas.

But what I really want to talk to you guys about is, you know, my girl is, you know, she kind of dresses, you know, real provocative whenever she goes out. I'd be trying to tell it, like, I don't know why you want to go out dressing like a, you know, a lot of girls nowadays, they'd be going out dressing like female wrestlers. Just showing a whole lot of stuff that really shouldn't be shown. And, you know, my question to y'all is, how do I really go about it? Because, you know, any time I try to hold up a standard or a dude tries to hold up a standard, it's seen as insecurity, you feel what I'm saying? So, I mean, in a situation like that, you know, I really try to hold up a standard.

try to tell her, I mean, like, and for a woman in a relationship, like, why are you even out there trying to show all that? Like, you already got something. Like, I feel like if you're showing all that, you're trying to attract something. Like, if I'm going to cover myself up in honey, I'm obviously trying to attract bees. You know what I'm saying? I might have been a terrible analogy. He thought about that analogy for a while. How was it that y'all would go about it in this type of situation?

Appreciate you. And finally, we're back to where we should have started. Three, two. one. Dumber. Yeah. I was going to say maybe just like padlock her door so she can't go padlock. Get her a sweater.

Yeah. Dump her. She's showing all of that. She's out there dressed like Hulk Hogan. Well, I want to know. I mean, listen, man. That wasn't the era. She had a singlet.

Yeah. It's like you got a whole, you just a sling bikini on going out. Like, nah, man. You know, you don't want to get to a point of relationship when you start telling your girl how to dress or, you know. I'm not comfortable with her wearing something. I think obviously you had that conversation with her home. And if she doesn't make, you know, some changes, you know, that means she just doesn't want to. And then you have to make your decision on, okay, well, I'm not comfortable with that.

And I'm not comfortable with my girl going out dressed like that. So this is just not the person for you. Yeah. I wish he described for women. What it was, though? What? He could, he possibly could be insecure. It may not be that wild.

It's, it's not. I mean, yes, he could be. I would like to know what's crazy for him as far as what. Yeah, you're right. I'm not going to speak from him. He may be insecure. But he addressed that part. He said, you know, when I talk, I don't want to come across insecure or whatever, whatever.

I don't want to seem insecure. But, you know, if your girl got on something, she may be a curvy woman, you know, and you know how it is. Guys see women dress a certain way. They're attracted to it, which now, you know, urges them to want to start a conversation or approach them and try to get their number, things like that. He's just saying, like, yo, you got a man. like this is going to attract other men the way your dress is going to attract other men now whether or not she engages in you know gives other men the opportunity to talk to her is a whole other another thing but i think that he should absolutely like have that talk and like you listen i'm not

comfortable with that or you know no no man wants to do this but then just show up it what she had with pajamas on eating trail mix you know what yeah just become that way from that like like y'all here I'm here. I'm in the same club y'all in. What if she pulls out what women think is the big joker and saying that she's getting dressed for her and her and her home girls, it's not for the guys when she goes out. She's doing that for her. Then that's when you hit up with the reverse Uno and you say, your girls don't even like you. Wow.

And you start wearing sweatpants at the club. Go from Spades to Uno. Your girls don't even like you. I didn't heard them talking about you. Right. Like, they don't, y'all don't even like each other. You do those girls for two years. Well, what if she says? It's just for me, I want to embrace my body.

You say, then you don't even love yourself. Yeah, you got to love yourself more. When you start showing her pictures of Queens and Africa in the early days and what they were wearing, this is how Queens dress. Probably topless. A lot of tithes out. Yeah. Actually, probably a really shitty example.

That's racist. What do you think, demands? Not all women in Africa were topless, Julian. I mean, I just think in that era in general, a lot of women were topless. They weren't. Okay. Right. Topless?

In the best one, that's certain tribes, first of all. See? That's most tribes. No, it's not. No it's not. What are you talking about? You're wrong. It's okay to be wrong. You're wrong. Africa is the biggest continent in the world. It's okay to be wrong. You're wrong. Not all tribes of women were topless. Not saying all most. Not even most. Y'all going to make me stand up for women? Yes. I get really tired of doing this. Sit down for women. Yeah, sit down for once. Disagree.

Sir, does she dress like a wrestler when you met her? If she dressed like a wrestler when you met her, You can't have her getting a relationship and suddenly she got to change and go buy a whole new motherfucking closet because you don't like the way that she dressed because you're afraid that niggas going to do the same thing that you did when you met her and try to talk to her. And then you wiped her up knowing that she fucking dressed like the rock on a hot day. That's hilarious. And also like men are still going to approach. She could be in a Cosby sweater and a fucking tee mask.

That's not going to stop. Men are still going to approach her. I would love to see exactly what he's talking about though. I want to see like her dressed. She probably dressed like fashion. And like if you go on Dreia's Instagram or fucking anybody's the female. I just got off of there. Oh, man.

There's evidence. Through some bags down. Oh, for sure. Left the trail. She probably got some cheeks out, some underboob out. Like, I love a good underboob. That's a great way. You guys are also in Texas as well.

It's hot. So, yeah, I kind of get it. Got an air of titty out in Texas. If she dressed like that before y'all met, you can't. ain't nothing you could talk to her about it but if she don't want to change it then you just got to leave like you can't be mad at that or say that she don't love you or she's not respecting you or that she's trying to get attention if that's the way that she always dressed i'm more so time in place like it depends on where you're going like nothing is worse than a woman wearing the wrong

shit at the wrong place awful that that is like that's embarrassing to me i i get uncomfortable because i know it's like everybody's like this ain't even the environment for that like why are you wearing that shit. Now if you getting, you know, throwing some shit on to go to the club and cool, put that shit on. Like, you know, I'm not, have a ball, but if we go into a nice restaurant to eat.

And you look like sexy, right? This is a married couples in here. You shouldn't be dressed like this. Like, come on. Like, put, you know what I mean? Because you can be sexy and be covered up. There's also a way to be sexy and be elegant. Absolutely. You're showing. A little back. If you want to show something, show some back. It don't always have to be tities and ass. Everybody got whack back, though.

And now everybody got a good back. That's the point. That's the flex. Show a whack back? No, like if you got a good back. Oh, yeah, if you got a good back, show that all. And I mean, maybe get even and go commando with some gray sweatpants. That's what I'm saying.

Get out there. Hit the club. Yeah. That's a, you need to fucking arrested. Yeah. Don't listen to Julian's advice. Don't go in there. Why not?

She's showing under titty. He can't pitch a tan in the club? No, he cannot. And should not. That's sexual assault. How about that? I'm not telling him to do something with him. I'm telling him.

And I just feel like the underboob work at the club. I just don't know if just being hard at the club. Yeah, because now I'm telling security to get this dude out of here. Like, yo, do we get, I'll give you $200, sir, if you get this dude out of the club. And you know, clubs are, there's a lot of people. Well, I ain't saying all that. You've had to navigate through a club before. You brushed against people.

Now, you're getting bummed. Can you imagine someone just rock hard trying to get through the club? You just get speared. Yeah, that's how I fights. You get speared. Now your head got bust open with a whole Hennessy bottle. And your girl is still happening. Yeah, like.

with you and your girl still ain't got the clothes on. And now you in the hospital will bleed and like, see? You should have just stayed home. She didn't never listen to Julian. What's her behavior on the nights out? So you're saying this happens on the girl nights. All women do the same thing. When she comes home, like is it, does she come home at a decent hour?

Like, how drunk is she when she comes home after a night out? And it's like, okay, like, yeah, she wore that outfit. But she's home at an hour that you agree upon. She's not sloppy drunk. You go to bed together. I don't. There's room for me to be like, okay. What time can your girl, is, she? should you grow? I'm not a curfew person

but if you're consistently coming home at like three four then it's like, all right? What the fuck are you doing? Three four is crazy. That's crazy, right? I'm not bugging for saying that. I thought New York things are like openly. Yeah, they are. Yeah, but like if you're in a real serious relationship. Consistently? Imagine a girl consistently close the club down. If she's like I'm going to an after hour, no, you're not. What are you doing? And the after. I'm saying, yeah, like something that started 6 a.m. What the fuck are you doing?

Julian, don't do that because I've been out with you and you'll be moving out here in the streets. I'm very single. there you go so if you're in a relationship we wouldn't be hopping from party to party I wouldn't unless I'm with my girl I wouldn't feel the urge to go somewhere I like to like 5 a.m. No I don't want to be nowhere at 5 a. I don't want to be a man or woman I'll wake up at 5.m. If you're at the afties man or woman at 536 5.30. 6 o'clock in the morning yeah and I don't do the drugs that I used to do for that shit anymore like I don't do that kind of stuff I'm not outside like that oh I took a nap in the middle of the BT Awards I was enjoying it I was just

that exhausted yeah it's like it's still goes till midnight you guys would date like a bartender something like that? No. Not because I have anything against that. I've talked to bartenders before. Yeah. And I didn't see them because we have, we live in completely different times at that point. Like, I'm not waiting until 4 a.m. for you to get. I'm not saying I wouldn't because I have, but it's just, it's tough, especially the older

you get. It's like you're not really, you're not on that algorithm no more. Like, you, you're ready to go to sleep. She's ready to go out. They're living on like London time. Yeah, it's just not. Yeah. It's just hard.

Then now when I'm getting up, you probably just getting in because you had to count out the register or whatever this day. What are we doing? I'm just not. Go data promoter. Is that how that would work? It's so fucked up. I'm just saying it's we're not, we're on two totally different algorithms. Like, yeah, it's like, bro, I'm not, I'm getting ready to get up and do what I do.

You're just getting in bed. Like, yeah. I would say the same thing for a nurse that, like, only does the graveyard shift. It'd be the same thing. Yeah, it's tough. It's the same shit. It's just tough. Like, it's, you got to find.

somebody where it matches you. That's why being in relationships is tough because you got to find somebody you're compatible with somebody that you just match with. Y'all on the same type of thing. Y'all like the same type of things. Have the same type of mindset on, you know, not everything, but most things. But yeah, if your girl is dressing, you know, way too provocative or too sexy for your liking and going out with the girls, I can understand how that's a problem.

But, I mean, listen, man, you can't tell her not to wear that no more. They'll cancel you. And the bartender thing worked like when the arrow was Thursday through Sunday. These chicks are working seven days a week in New York, these bartenders. Like even on a Monday. And like what party do you work at? Yeah, that makes a big difference. That's a big difference.

Yeah. If my girl worked at like a really nice like cocktail lounge or something like that, and she was like whatever, a bartender or whatever, someone there, that's cool. Why are you rolling in your eyes? There's no money in that. Because all the ones you wouldn't want your girl working at, is where she would make the money. You don't want your girl with them,

NBA niggins is that? No. But that's the thing, like, why does that matter? What? Well, it's just like the crowd and the people that I just,

I just don't want, I don't like hanging out in those environments. So someone that I care about, I probably just wouldn't be attracted to someone that would be in those environments like that. Mm-hmm. But she's working. Mm-hmm.

That's like if my boyfriend, you can watch her IG live the whole time. Like, I don't want you coming to work. You work with all men. Well, before Yomi got here, you work with all men and they all get bitches, so I'm very uncomfortable with you

working. This is a fucking studio we podcast for a living. We're not in the club. And like, what, we're threatening? We're drinking energy drinks and talking about hip-hop music. The fucking NBA players that his girl is serving fucking makers

mark two aren't threatening either. But it all depends on how, shit. Come all, come on. Yeah, it got me fucked up. You served that 6-8 nigga one more shot. He's gonna get shot. That's what's going to happen. I shot for shot. Yeah.

Wow. The fuck. And it's sick for an athlete to drink Makersmark. Oh, do you? Yeah. There's something wrong with that guy. He's playing. He's doing something sick if he's ordering

Maker's Mark at Starlet. They even have that at Starlets? I don't know. They have Hennessy, Syrac, and fucking champagne. There you go. That's it.

All right. Well, I mean, best of luck. I would tell you, girl. Good luck. Stay in the fight. Or just flat out say, hey, I've, think that's inappropriate for being in a relationship and see what her response is from there. Or take her shopping.

Or get the fuck over it. Take her shopping. Take her shopping. He said he had a conversation with her about it already, right? Yeah. So, okay, yeah, then if she's not willing to change. Go take a shopping. Go get a new wardrobe, you know, some sweaters.

Some new pieces. Yeah. Go get with the fucking somebody who wears Cosby sweaters. You can't be a bad bitch. It's okay. See if Lauren is her body type because Lauren is going from being a nun now to go outside to give the pussy up. She's going to give up that nun wardrobe. It's true. Donate it to

his girl. We can connect people with this whole voicemail thing. Bad bids just ain't for everybody and I think people need to be more honest with themselves about that. They're not for me. I know that. That's true. That's a profound statement. It's too exhausting of a lifestyle. Fuck that. It's very exhausting.

I like an understated, beautiful woman. When y'all were talking about like women taking too long to get ready and all of that, I said bad bitches ain't for everybody. No. I like, fuck that. No, don't do that. See, bad. Just because they're like for everybody. Just because it take you long to get dressed. Don't meet you a bad bitch.

No, what I mean by, no. What I mean by bad bitch, no, what I mean by bad bitch, no, what I mean by bad bitch, I'm not talking about girls who are obviously pretty, right, or beautiful women. When I say a bad bitch lifestyle, when I think of that, I think of the girls who are going to go get the bust down, the hair, the nails, the lashes, the, the, the, the, the, lashes, the, the, the, the, the ones, you know what bad bitches are. You know what I'm talking about. So you're saying it's not the look, it's the lifestyle.

It's the lifestyle. It's the ones who put all that. effort into the way that they look. So pit bulls can be bad bitches. 100%. Yeah. Okay. For sure.

Yeah, but I don't, I don't, again, you're talking to somebody that's just a little older and past that stage. I just, because you can always get your hand nails than throughout the week. Whatever. Just upkeep self-care, self-maintenance. That's a thing that you just have as an adult. Or somebody who's going to put a pot, like the people who put a pound of makeup on and they're going to, they have to freshly curl their hair.

And y'all know exactly the time. Yeah, but that's not an everyday thing, though. Like, you know what I'm not. These chicks go out every night. When we were talking about going out, it takes too hard to get ready to go out. Yeah, but you got to be a pro at this by now. You know how long it takes you to do all that shit by now. You've been doing this shit for years.

You've been putting on makeup to go out, doing your hair before you go out, finding the outfit. You've been doing this for you. How long have you been doing this? Like, you have to be a pro at this by now. So it's like, what are we doing? Like, you mean you're still take forever for us to make an appointment, a reservation somewhere?

Like, just to put on makeup and hair and something to wear like no there's women that's look great and they can get ready in 40 minutes head to toe shower everything love those kind of women absolutely best I love those yeah anyways well that was another episode of voicemails uh thank you for sending these voicemails it's a lot of fun listening to somebody's i gotta go through i want to go to some of them and listen because i out of feeling julia be skipping on some really good ones agreed you know julian still has his voicemail set up called him over the weekend on his phone oh yeah and he had he has a legitimate voicemail it's like your voice like, hey, is Julian?

Please leave a message after the beach. My friend called me out because it used to be way worse and I updated it and I thought it was better. I guess not having one is better. Yeah, way better. Yeah. Can I call your phone right now? You let the voicemail like, sure. All right.

It's pretty sick. I want to hear what you. I want to hear what it's not good. I almost left a voicemail after I heard it, but I stopped myself. Like, can you leave you voicemails besides your parents? Even my mom has gotten past. My friends is jokes, too, because they always make. fun of my voicemail.

All right, I'm calling your phone now. Does anyone else have a voicemail here? You played it in the speaker? I don't know if my still. I'm going to put it on speaker phone and just play right here. It was nasty. Can't be that bad. Ignoring.

I'm not going to answer it. Well, hit side button. Save us some time. Oh, I thought that used to send it to voice mail. Hey, this is Julian. Sorry, I'm unavailable. Please leave a message. I'll get back to you soon as I can.

Ugh. It used to be worse. It used to be worse. It used to be way worse. I didn't remember here. Yeah. Who was it? It was just long winded.

Yeah, it was just, it was a lot. Hey, this is, it's not bad. I think it's better than everyone when you call it and just go, like, okay. I don't even have a voice message on my phone. It's just, no one has a voicemail or, like, or, Armani. You know what text me. In box full.

Voicemails used to make sense without, like, caller ID and everything. Why are you saying, hey, it's Julian? I know it is. I just hit Julian on my phone. That's why I was sitting there when, you know, I was like, no, I know it's Julianian. I'll text you. Hey,

Hey, it's Julian. I know it is. Well, you know, with all the AI and deep things. You know, global warming. Global warming. I get it. Something happened to that walrus. Yeah, I get it.

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Win by Yama. Wemba Yama. By Yama. I'm going to get it right one day. He looks like he'd order a maker's money. Mark in San Antonio. He ordered hot chocolate. He'll order hot chocolate. He's a kid. He'll order hot chocolate.

He looks like he'd walk to the bar and say, can I please have some alcohol? No, he said, give me a milk in a dirty cup. Was it Shirley Temple? Ew. What the fuck? It was something else I wanted to address before we left, but I can't remember what that was. You can save it for Patreon. I'll save with Patreon.

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