New Rory & MAL - Episode 189 | Lizzo Is A Hero

Episode Date: August 4, 2023

Rory’s first episode of Zaddie’s or Dad Bod Pod (Working Title) is available now to all tiers on Patreon. This pod welcomes other dads into the studio to share their fatherhood journey. Moving forward it’ll be on the $20 tier.Also please head to our YouTube to watch the first BTS Vlog from the new studio!Well it wouldn’t be us if we didn’t disagree. It’s Mal & Lizzo vs. The Room. Was she out of line with her dancers? Is she a bully? We then pay respects to the tragic news regarding Angus Cloud. Travis Scott is projected for a big first week, but is also getting accused of lifting this album from Kanye. We stay on music but celebrate some legends with the latest issue of Men’s Health. Do you think your favorite rappers took steroids? We ask a personal question regarding balls. Speaking of personal decisions, Ja Morant has some new tattoos. Then we discuss a hilarious 100m dash and speak on the future of the Olympics (combination). Did the crew member violate Beyonce? Artists can’t sell tickets and it’s their booking agency's fault. Is it hiphop for rappers to dance? It’s time for voicemails. Can you go through your girl's phone? Then we discuss some baby momma drama and a situationship. Tune in as the guys discuss all of this + more! Follow The Team:Rory - https://www.instagram.com/thisisrory/Mal - https://www.instagram.com/mal_bytheway/Eddin - https://www.instagram.com/thankyoueddin/Julian - https://www.instagram.com/julian__nicholas/Demaris - https://www.instagram.com/demarisagiscombe/Merch: https://newrorynmal.com/Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/newrorynmalYouTube Subscribe: https://rb.gy/hk7up Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoicesSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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content every fucking week no what what's going on man got your That was a big sigh.

That a sigh of relief? I'm fucking, I'm fucking tired, man. It's because you have a new haircut. Can't keep the ladies off you? I wish. The Dark Caesar. I'm fucking. That's what they call you.

Dark season? Yeah. That's racist. But anyway, they don't call me dark season. No, I'm just tired, man. Been a long, a busy week. I'll tell you. All right.

Well, I mean, we could talk shit about Lizzo for a while without, like, bring your spirits up. What happened? Nothing like the fat, shame. or fat shaming. Listen, I saw something people were saying that Erica Badu and Beyonce were beefing. And Beyonce changed some lyrics at her show. And she kept Lizzo's name out of it. She just said, Badu, Badu, Badu, Badu, Badu, when she was supposed to say Lizzo's name.

I don't know what the hell is going on. But I do know Lizzo is facing a lawsuit, facing being canceled. Well, Beyonce is very safe. We know she doesn't play that shit. There was like two people that got mad at Spazz and they stopped the whole vinyl release. Yeah. Like she doesn't play that shit. So if Lizzo has some accusations, she's going to take the name out.

But I think that Badu and Beyonce thing is the media. Like we know how Erica Badu usually speaks to the public sometimes. But the most part is in a sarcastic manner. Someone brought up that Beyonce was also wearing a hat. And then Biden was like, well, I guess I'm everyone's styling. We know she wasn't serious. No, she's being sarcastic. But Lizzo on the other hand.

What a piece of shit, right? It's facing a lawsuit. Not right. I don't know. I don't know what's going on with this lawsuit. I do know that dances are claiming while they want tour with Lizzo. She invited them to a nude performance club in Amsterdam. That's not out of ordinary Red Light District in Amsterdam.

A lot of nudity, a lot of sex. And they went out of fear of losing their jobs. So while they were there, the lawsuit claims that Lizzo began leading a chant to get Davis to touch one of the performers' breasts. This is like a Lizzo frat party. Yeah, Ms. Davis said three times loud enough. for alter here, I'm good, expressing her desire not to touch the performer. The lawsuit states, Davis eventually acquiesced fearing it may harm her future on the team. Later that night, they alleged Lizzo badgered a member of her security team to get on stage,

where she pulled down his pants and hit him with whips. The next week, the plaintiff said Lizzo took her dance team out without telling them they were going to a new cabaret bar in Paris. Lizzo, a freak. What is the problem here with any of this? The lawsuit also alleges mistreatment from BGBT toward the dancers. BGBT's management team considered entirely of white Europeans who often accuse the black members of the dance team of being lazy,

unprofessional, and having bad attitudes. Jesus. What's wrong with Lizzo inviting her team out while they're in Amsterdam to a club? Well, it's funny when I was reading this lawsuit, the first thing I thought was, oh, I mean, we have to cancel them all while we're at it then. I mean, because you, in fact, took the team to the team to the lawsuit. box where you had our business manager drinking milk out of a transgender woman's ass. So I think you make Lizahhood.

That didn't happen, but okay. He's progressive. We did. It was a right off. We weren't in the splash zone. Yeah, we were far. I made sure that everyone was at least 20 feet from the blast radius. Well, I didn't want to do a check-in specifically with Julian since I think, did Ed and did you go

as well to the box? No, it was just Julian. Yeah, Ed and I being the good Catholic, Irish, Mexican-American boys that we are, we would never partake in anything of that nature. Julian, do you feel like you were coerced into having to go there? Maybe do acts that you weren't comfortable with, but you thought that it came with a job. And you didn't want to disappoint Maul.

Yeah. So. I didn't want to drink. And then Maul was like, we have to get a bottle right now. And he didn't drink. And then I was like, are you going to have it? He was like, I don't drink, but you have to finish the whole bottle right now. got to drink all of this by yourself.

Yeah. I'm a piece of shit. What can I say? You're Mizz-O. Yeah, I'm Mizzo. Yeah. She also in this lawsuit was body shaming her choreographers. So she was fat shaming them, which is kind of the pot calling the kettle black. Her people hurt people.

So that one I kind of understood. I'm kind of here to defend Lizzow. This doesn't, this sounds like an outing on tour. She was doing freaky shit with bananas too, I guess, at one point. I totally get the case that they had. It could have been very uncomfortable and you don't want to do that. You don't want to lose your job. You're on tour.

You want to feel like you're part of the team. You don't want to be that person that's just odd man out. Because on tour, you're just on top of people all the time. You're forced to be around people. Right. So might as well make it a good. I can understand not wanting to go to a club. But I'm still confused at what the lawsuit is.

What are they, are they saying, yo, she forced me to go to a nude bar and grab one of the dancers' breasts? I just wanted, like, know how that conversation went. when Lizzo was like, get in the fucking van. Where are we going? Bitch shut up. Yeah. You just end up at a strip club?

Yeah. It's like, why did Lizzo tell them? Listen, I get it, you know, people, but this, I don't think this holds any weight. I think that this is something that is just, yeah, I just think that this is something that is going to just come and go. I don't think there's no real lawsuit here. You know, whether or not Lizzo, you know, for somebody to grab a dancer's breasts, I just don't see where that lawsuit would have fall on Lizzo.

No, I think they're going to win. They have a case. Even though I think this is a tour culture. Yeah. Which, of course, tour culture we've talked about in this podcast is a lot of times not the greatest culture. Pretty unhealthy. It's very unhealthy for all participants. They have a case here.

You can't bring people to places they don't want to go. You can't force them to touch naked bodies. Like, they have a case. She didn't. I get it. I get what you're saying. But we have to stop this. Like, if you're on tour with an artist and the artist says, listen, we're going to go out, like myself,

if we're going to go out after a show and we go to a strip club, like, and I'm chanting and I'm rooting and drinks are going, and I'm forcing you to throw singles and smack a stripper's ass. And you forget. You can't then turn around and say, I'm going to sue mall for, what are you suing me for, taking the team out? It's coercion. Yeah. Coorsion and the strip club to smack an ass? But they're saying they didn't want to be there.

You pretended to forget your wallet. I get everybody's in this, you know, everybody wants to be offended. Everybody's in a rush to be offended and feel like they were, you know, taking advantage of. But this right here is absolutely like I would look at this like they were crazy. You've never gone through with something because you felt pressure to doing even though you didn't want it. Not smack a stripper's ass or grab a stripper's titty. But that's subjective. Like that's the uncomfortable thing comes from the person that's doing, like that's,

the uncomfortable barometer changes per person. So that's not what they want to do and they're forced to do it. That counts as coercion. They weren't forced to do it. She didn't say, you know, if you don't do this, you're losing your fucking job on this tour.

She didn't say that. I'm not asking what she could have said. But they would have said that. Julian, what are you talking about? The implication, like the pressure was coming from the head of the whole organization. Lizzo took her team out to have fun, bro.

They were in a club. Like, there's not. Lizzo didn't say, if you don't grab the stripper's titty, you're not performing tomorrow. It's an abusive power. Come on, stop. Stop. Stop. Stop. Stop. Stop. Stop. Stop. Stop. Stop. Stop. Stop. Let's just stop. I get it. You know, good. The lawsuit is out there. Do I think that this lawsuit is going to win? Absolutely not. I think this is bullshit. I think this is my personal opinion.

All right. I don't think Lizzo did anything. As a grown person, as a grown person, somebody can't force you to do anything. Mall, that is so not true. Somebody can force you to do something? People can be put in situations where they- What can somebody force you to do as a grown man? What can somebody force you to do? Well, you're just, it's like that's not the point. I'm asking you a question. All right. So you, listen, I take you out after a show.

And I say, yo, Julian, if you don't fucking grab this stripper's ass right now, you're fucking fired. That should be illegal. You don't see how someone would probably go through with that. Like if you, I'm being dead. If you meant it. Not like in a joking. Right. Exactly.

Did Lizzo say, are they saying that Lizzo said that? no. They're not saying she said, oh, if you don't do this, your fucking final. We don't know what the, we don't know what the consequence would be if they didn't do it. But the whole point is, if the higher. What is the consequence? What would have been the consequence if I say, yo, Lizzo, I don't want to grab her titty. Okay, this is an extreme. What is the consequence? This is an extreme. But outside of the flat out rape that Harvey Weinstein did, there were women that appeared like they had consensual sex. And they said the only reason that they did that, because in that environment, the only way to move forward is to fuck Harvey Weinstein.

So they went through with it for their careers. Now, Lizzo, the racket she's running, she's a voyeur. And she wants to see her dancers touch other women. The offense is different, but the style of coercion is the same. It's do this because I'm in the position of power. I'm making you do this because I want you to. And it's strip club saying, go, go, go, go. Like, we saw it with Matt Lauer.

Like, there's been plenty of people. that create work environments where people feel they need to do things they would not do outside of work to keep the job or move forward with the job, especially back to tour culture. You know you're not getting on the next tour even if you danced great,

but you were just a bummer on tour. We all know like that one person that just didn't get along with the rest of the crew, even though they were great on stage, it just doesn't work. You're not part of the family that's on tour for now. And someone can feel that way

if they don't go out and then participate in the Lizzo fuckery. People can feel that way. I'm not saying there's a absolute law abiding case to it, but they'll probably settle

or Lizzo will lose. And that's my problem. And this is the thing that happens now. When people have these lawsuits, what they go into it hoping and thinking is that people most likely will settle. And that's a very dangerous thing

when you start talking about these types of lawsuits. Is that people do know like, yo, if she starts to get enough back, from social media and from the fans and can't and his bullshit stupid-ass cancel culture that she will say you know what just to make this all go away here's a couple of dollars and that and that and that's a and that's a fucked up position for an artist to be in because

do i know lizzo personally no do i think that she's a bad person i don't know never met her been around her do i think that from these accounts that her taking her team out to a club in Amsterdam just to have a night of fun that it's right for her to now be facing a lawsuit of coercion to grab a stripper's titty like come on bro like what are we talking about here like this shit is just too much of this too much of this type of shit happens when people are looking to grab a dollar and that's and that's my problem now again i'm not saying that lizzo isn't a bad person i don't know never matter yeah but i don't me i don't think that lizzo's intent was to take her team to a strip club and say i'm going to force you to do some shit i think i think

Lizo is a fun is a is a it's a big personality she has a big personality she had a team out she wanted to have a night of fun and one of her dances probably seemed like she didn't want to be there she's like oh come on girl have some fun like just grab it just grab the titty like it's win the strip club have fun let loose now that turned into a lawsuit of coercion to do something like it's just like come on person though i do feel like even in explaining this from the other side i think liz's intentions were good i think she was really just trying to bond with her crew her her The people she's on tour with. Let's just have a night of fun.

But she's also, even though she's a creative and it's a different type of environment, it is still a corporate environment that they're in and that type of behavior, unfortunately, you cannot do in a corporate environment. And even though this is music, it's still corporate. Now, here. I'm sure Live Nation is going to start putting rules on any tour they're involved with where the artists cannot do anything with the employees or staff after this. Now, you know what the fuck the part about this is?

If Lizzo was the type of person that said, I don't want my dancers talking to me. I don't want them hanging out with me after the shows. I don't want to have no relationship with them. You know what it would then turn it to? Oh, she's a bitch to work with. Yeah. We don't even know that.

We never even spoke to us. We only saw it when it was time to perform or time to rehearse. But now that she's trying to create an environment of inclusive and say, hey, let's all go out and have a night of fun, it turns into, oh, she coerced me into grabbing a stripper's titty. I feel like, but come on, man. This did have a lot of people come out of woodwork saying that she is an absolutely. asshole to work with. Yeah. And we're talking about the only the strip club incident. There's many

like verbal assault like her picking apart people's appearances, weight, etc. Like she's in this suit been a extremely verbally abusive person to the people that have worked for her. It's not just the strip club. Oh no. I know obviously it's other thing. But what I'm saying is my that's kind of to my point. Like what can she do? She's either a bitch because she's strict with her dancers. And she wants them to look a certain way or she's getting sued because she took the team out to have a night of fun and let loose and relax on tour. And now she coerced somebody into doing something in the street club that they didn't want to do. It's like you can't win for losing. And that's my issue here where it's like, yo, you have to now again, if she starts to cut herself off and she doesn't want to even associate with anybody on her staff, she's a bigger bitch.

Now she's like, oh, she's a bitch. You can't even, we don't even know, we can't talk to her. We can't ask her for anything. and we can't express how we feel to her. What is she, what is Lizzo, the artist and a person supposed to do in the time like this? Like, what does she do for me? But also most of the people she's worked with, whether it was directors doing her documentary or just people on staff on the tour, just say she's just an absolute nightmare to work with.

Like she's completely, and that made me true. Like I said, I don't know. I never met her, never worked for, never, you know what I'm saying? It could be true. What I'm saying is this, this, this. story. This accusation of a night out to me seems like a reach. It's like, all right, fam.

Like, you were coercive to grab a titty in the strip club? But again, you're just focusing on the one night. I'm just saying, I just said that, that particular incident to me seems like now people are saying, oh yeah, like I do recall when we went to her. She made me do this. Oh, yeah, she said this to me and that hurt my, it's like now everybody is kind of replaying things and now everybody feels offended

by certain things. I just, I know what this is about. This is about getting somebody. that they know has a lot of money wanting to now try to get a piece of something. And it's a dangerous culture that exists because this happens very often. People always try to do something to where, oh, this person knows that'll be canceled if they don't settle. If they don't say, okay, you know what, I was wrong. I apologize.

Let me go to therapy now. And that whole route, you know, the damage control route. Now she's looked at as a bitch and a terrible person to work with. Again, I don't know. I never met the woman. But that particular story of the strip club thing feels like a reach. Does Lizzo go the misogyny route that I've seen a lot of women take and they are correct when they say if a man was behaving this way, it would be respected. He wouldn't be looked at as a bitch.

He'd be looked at as a boss, et cetera, et cetera. I think most times that is true. But I have seen plenty of women pull that card when they were just straight up being a cunt. Like if a man was acting this way, he'd be a cunt to. Yeah. I mean, again, it's subjective, man. Like if you don't want to, I just, me personally as a grown person, there is nothing that nobody can make me do. I don't care about a job, a position.

You can't make me do something I don't want to do as a grown person. But you have to know that that's not everybody's disposition. I understand that. I understand people are in positions that do I think this is one of them? Absolutely not. I don't think this is one. I don't think the person's job was at risk if they didn't go to the strip club and grab a titty. That's stupid to me.

I don't think this was it. Does this happen in work environments? We know that it does. Absolutely. I'm just saying me personally, do I feel like that was a situation where that person's job would have been at risk? No, I don't. And it's always like, I feel like it's always the artist that like has the public persona that's so inclusive and love everybody and has puts on like that friendly bullshit facade. And then behind closed doors, they're a fucking nightmare. Like Ellen, same deal. Yeah. Just shut the door. A lot of your favorite artists that present perfect and present friendly are horrible behind closed doors to the people that work closely with them and help them become who they are. So it's just, it happens. Again, I'm not saying that that's not the case.

I just, again, this is a, it's a, it's a sticky thing when it comes to shit like this because we do know that people are all about trying to grab a dollar when they see the opportunity present itself. Lizzo did give a response. I don't know if you have that, Julian. I'm sure she didn't. I'm sure this is PR. No, she typed this all by herself in her notes. Okay, so she says these sensationalized stories are coming from former employees who have already public admitted that they were told their behavior on tour was inappropriate and unprofessional.

Flip it on them. Yeah, it was their fault. Yeah, they were the one grabbing the tithies. It was all eight of them that are wrong, not the single me. Yeah. Yeah, that happens like that sometimes. That makes sense, bro. It doesn't happen like that sometimes?

What case has it happened like that? When the whole room is wrong and the one person, that's the odd person is right? You don't think that if you work somewhere and you and five of your coworkers get fired, you don't see a world where y'all can try to like transcribe a story where it makes it look like the person that y'all worked for was the one that was like the dick. That's different. Why is it different? It could be the case here.

It could be the case here. Yeah. That's what I'm saying. She cleaned out. I got eight new dancers. Yeah. Like that's what I'm sitting. So now these dancers are like, shit.

I still got these bills, these mortgages. Like, I got to try to get a buck until I get my next gig. that's all I'm saying man it's just a it's a fucked up world man like people are going to always try to do shit to cover their ass when you know they see the opportunity

present itself can I go on a bit of a ledge here with one of the go all the way there jump I see what you're doing yeah with one of the comments

that a dancer had made she was fat shamed and Lizzo had said to her dancers have been fired for gaining weight I personally think that's a completely fine thing to say to a dancer. Yeah. And Lizzo's the pinnacle of health.

Okay. But when people, when people go to see Lizzo, the bigger, the better. They love, like, that's fine. It's Lizzo's tour. If she wants to be 10,000 pounds, she could be 10,000 pounds.

So you can see her from the nose, but if you, well, sure, depending on which arena you're in. Yeah, if a dancer cannot perform to her best ability because she's gaining weight, what the fuck is wrong with that? Yeah, but wasn't Lizzo,

like, championing her dance? troop on all being overweight. Yes, and she has, quote unquote, overweight dancers. That's kind of like her thing, which I get, and that's cool for the show. But if they can't perform because they're getting heavier, yeah, you're fired. It's to perform that job. If you can't perform your job, you're fired. Yeah, that's fair.

If it's hindering on your performance, but if she's gaining weight but still performing, then it's like, okay. All good. No problem there. But if you, if your lack of performance is because you've gained 15 pounds, if you're a little slower. Yeah. It's like, all right, I have a, like, this is now, this is now affecting your performance, which is affecting my show. Like, we can't have that. There's nothing wrong with that. That's what I'm, this is just everyone wants to be offended. Everyone wants to be, this is the

victim ever. Everybody wants to be a victim or offended. And it's fucked up because there are real victims out here and there are real people that are in real fucked up positions. But shit like this to me, it just feels like a reach. It just feels like a force. It just feels like I understand it happens. So you're kind of banking on the public knowing that this does really happen. But I just don't feel like this is a situation where this is what really happened. But also, is she allowed to be a bully after she's been like so anti-bullied because she's been bullied. But what's a bully though?

You're fat. That's bullying? Yes. That is cool. Are you kidding me? That's like first base bully. Are you kidding me? That is intro 101.

That's bullying? Yes. Come on. See, just what I'm saying. This victim error. skin. It's like that's like this. Yeah, but this, come on, man, you're fat. I think way. Coming from Lizzo? I think I would actually laugh at that. I'm like, girl, you too. Look at us. Out here with pre-diabetes. It's like the Paul Rudd meme.

Yeah, like you got to kind of lean into that shit. Spider-Man memes. Like, yeah, both of us. Yo, you're fat. I'm suing. What the fuck is that? Like, like, come on, man. I just like, just, just enough is enough. That's what I'm saying. Like, but we'll see where this goes. Again, me personally, I don't think anything will come in this. I highly doubt that Lizzo's going to settle out of court when any of this shit. I highly doubt it. Yeah. No, for sure.

In sad news, we learned, I think right after we recorded our last episode that Angus Cloud had passed away for those that don't know. He played a great role in Euphoria. Great actor from the Bay Area. Fez. Yes, Fez. My Spider-Man meme, like, for years upon years, I feel like I've been connected. to this guy and everything that he does. So I just want to say rest in peace.

His family put out a statement. Just buried his father and I know he's going through some tough times. We won't say what we think happened, but judging by the report from his family that went to TMZ, it appeared that it may have been self-inflicted, but prayers to his family, obviously going through losing two people in one week is something I can't imagine. But prayers and condolences.

It's tough. incredible talent. Super talented actor. You know, his role in Euphoria was one of the standout roles. And to find out that that was his first acting gig. Yeah. That's what really surprised me. It's a really beautiful story of how he got discovered, too.

He was walking on Mulberry here in the city and someone, just a casting director, just asked him if he ever acted. And he was like, no, I think at the time he was like bartending or something. He was doing something like that. It was working at like a burger place in Brooklyn. Yeah, something like that. It was like in the service industry. Yeah, yeah, took on this role. And he was supposed to, the character was supposed to die in the first season. And Sam Levinson was like this guy, it's a fan favorite. We got to bring him back. So. And in that second season, like the character really developed. Like he started to have more of a personality. He saw more into his life. He was really, really becoming a character rather than just like that drug dealer guy in the first one. Yeah. It was really coming into his own as an actor. Um, so very sad, but very sad, uh, very unfortunate, you know, grief, people deal with grief

differently. They wear it differently. Um, you know, in the passing of his father, he was obviously really close with his dad. So, you know, I'm, I'm, I'm sure that grief was something that, or a pain that he just did not ever think was possible. Um, and, you know, it, it becomes a lot for for people to bear, for people to carry, which is important, you know, it's important for people to have grace with each other, show love, check on people, support people in any way you can because you just never know the battles that people fight internally when they don't want to burden people with, you know, their shit and their weights that they have to bear. So it's, it's unfortunate.

You know, it's just a sad story, a tragic story, a tragic end to what I think was a very bright future. Yeah. And somebody that was obviously loved and, you know, respected amongst their peers and their friends. So it's just sad, man. It's just a sad story all the way around. Prayers to the family because, you know, that's, you know, again, they're going through more than we can possibly. imagine. But it's important to just support, support your friends, support each other and give grace again because you never know what people are carrying and what people are bearing. People

like to, you know, we like to wear these masks and make it seem like everything is okay on the outside and, you know, on the inside is just like it's a whole bunch of emotions and things going on. So, you know, prayers to the family, condolences, love, strength, healing. And Show will be drastically different. Oh, yeah. But that's just the bear. For sure. The last.

It's just how people connected to him so much to that character. So when the news came out. It was really good to see a lot of people. Like so many people were posting him. And a lot of people, it was the same thing. It was like he was a character and a person that a lot of people were I think were rooting for. And I don't say identified with, but we kind of all knew a fez in high school. school. Yeah. Like you kind of saw him sometimes, but he was still cool with everybody. Yeah.

He minded his business. Yeah. He wasn't like... Very quiet to himself. But everyone liked him. Like, there was rarely any person that had a bad thing to say about. Right. We all kind of knew that kid. I think that's why his character was so easily attached to in that show. Yeah. Because like, we know that kid. You know that kid. Everybody has come across a kid like that. So, again, sad news. Rest and peace to Angus Cloud. Um, and loving, loving prayer to the, the family. Yeah. Travis Scott Utopia projected today.

Well, of course, debuting at number one. Congrats to Travis. Morning K first week. I know that, you know, had a lot to do with the bundles, which I'm glad they brought back in a way that makes sense. It was 125,000 pure sales, though. Which is crazy. It was just phenomenal.

Great project. I got a question. 400K, a lot of that coming from bundles. Can we talk about? 613 for CLB, no bundles. Yeah. Well, we knew, we know that. I'm saying like what, like, you know that Drake is one of the biggest artists in the world.

It's just insane. Like, I'm just saying that metric. I'm not saying, fucking insane. But why are you shitting on Travis? I'm not shitting on Travis. I'm just saying there, I think, you're saying, it's an awful artist is what you're saying. Yeah, yeah. I think you're saying, anyone that says under 600K first week, we should be able to scoff to scoffed at 400k.K. You should retire. You still look at your little 400k units. Oh, look at your little 400k out of it. It just really put into perspective the gap between Drake and everybody else. Is this one putting it in perspective? I mean, every time these bigger artists, like the young goats of this next wave of generation happens,

I'm like, these are great numbers. They're sick. That's amazing. But it's just, Drake is just different. Well, I always say Drake is the target of artists. If you have a feature with Drake that automatically puts you on an entirely different scope, he has a feature with Drake, which is the one song that everybody is talking about. I'm sure that helped with a lot of things.

these sales and downloads. But again, Travis is a phenomenal artist. He's a great producer, great talent. And he put together a great project, another great project. So, I mean, I think that people responded to it. They were waiting for it.

His fans was waiting for this one. Well, good project. People like Julian, specifically, that want to discredit everything Travis does. Compiled this list. I love you, of the amount of records that came from Kanye directly, Donda Sessions. Maybe there was an engineer assistant

that happened to be in the same vicinity as Kanye West at one point in their life and then also was next to Travis. They're giving Kanye the credit there. They just compiled a list that just shows that this is a Kanye West album minus Kanye versus, which I kind of get where they're coming from. But most of this is, oh, Travis was in Donda Sessions

producing for Ye. it didn't come out. So Travis isn't allowed to fucking use that now? Like how does that discredit Travis? He was making a song in Adana session. It wasn't used.

You know how much stuff comes from writing camps that aren't used that end up being huge records for other people? Not only just that, Roy, there's so many things that come from a lot of these

what do they call them installations and things, these fan interaction, things that companies use when they have these creators and producers come out and artists. I remember one in particular,

we did um it was all-star weekend i think when it was here in new york a few years ago and there was an installation where they had people designing sneakers and myself and somebody else that was there they had they gave us like these these blank Nike uh air force one mids like white ones and people were like flipping the Nike check there like i did it a few other people did it there oh yeah this is before the travis thing's been a thing's bad a thing But I'm, I'm the belief that they do things like this to kind of like pick up these ideas like, oh, okay, that's dope. We might be able to use that because it's basically free, just have people come in and create something.

And now, okay, we have it here. You get to take the sneaker home. But like, these are people that work in the sneak industry now that they can come up with these designs when it's time to design new sneakers. They do things like this all the time. Companies do things like this. There's nothing wrong with sitting in a room creating. and if that creation doesn't ever see the light of day, now I take that for my own project

and add on to that creation. There's nothing wrong with that. And while I came on here and said that it's very much a Kanye West influenced album. Absolutely. Like on this list, the Modern Jam joint, we know that's the I Am a God beat from Jesus. But that's an interpolation.

That's like a credited thing. But also Travis produced on that with Kanye and Bon Ivers. So he's sampling himself in that regard. Right. So while I get it, I also don't because people could really give Travis a lot of credit for the easiest sound to begin with. So he's not allowed to do his sound. Yeah. Because Kanye West did it well too.

And then like those I understand, but then you get down to the Chappelle and Young Lean record. No concrete evidence, but Dave Chappelle was at the Donda two session. Yeah. Oh, my bad. All right. Yeah. Yo, just just biting off you. They both know Dave Chappelle.

Yeah. The production also sounds. similar to Don the two. The song was even mixed by Kanye's million engineer. So, all right, so ghetto boys is now Kanye because Mike Dean. Yeah. It's just people just are going to find

a reason to try to, you know, diminish a person's worth of value to whatever it is. It's just, that's how it goes sometimes, especially when you're, but it only happens like that when you're like super successful. It never happens like that on the climb up.

Oh, no. It's like once you're at the top, and the success is here and you know you're you're repeating the success and you're effectively putting out dope shit. People want to try to find out okay why is this consistently so good. But just listen to just go to backlog to Travis's whole discography.

Like this is the natural progression for where his sound was at the start. This all makes sound like this is new. Was yeah a Travis inspired to some degree album to begin with. But we're dealing with like different type of Kanye stands like even meltdown verse was sent directly to Mike Dean

four hours before release Kanye West engineer. So because Mike Dean was working on something and Drake sent to a verse, we now need to give Kanye West to Christ. Also like Mike Dean is like Travis's main engineer. He's a lot of people. He's one of the greatest engineers of all time. He's one of the greatest engineers of all time. He's using Mike Dean's name to be like, yeah,

now that's Kanye right there, man. And people do know that like Mike Dean has been around way longer than Kanye was. People don't know that. Kanye didn't find Mike Dean. I found Paul McCartney. All right, but I'm trying to tell you. A lot of people don't know that.

Mike Dean is not Kanye West engineer. Kanye has used Mike Dean as an engineer report. Mike Dean is Mike Dean. But a lot of people don't know that. And these are the voices that you start to hear and see on the internet is the people that really don't know everything or the full story. They think that Mike Dean, like Kanye made Mike Dean.

Yeah, like he found him. Yeah. And it's like, no, Kanye already knew that Mike Dean was dope and decided I need to work with that great engineer. Technically, he's Tidros's engineer. Technically. What's his name again? Tetrose.

I know him for real, so I call him T-DRIO. Yeah, you're-Chi. I call him T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T. Yo, why is Drake, why is Drake whispering T-T-T-T-T-T-T. I like, but I... Tea-T-T-T. I thought he was like, oh, is he going to Bado's house for another cup of tea again? I thought he was referencing, like Mike with Little Bow-W-W-W.

That didn't come in my mind, but... That was the first thing that popped up in mind. Was it? That's weird. That was what he called Tracy, T-T-T-on. Your mind is fucking nuts. Why don't your mind? go to that movie because I'm 33

and like Mike was a big part of my childhood. I sent Rory a meme, a picture of, they had a meme going around at Bowowell when he was like two years younger than LeBron and like a year younger than Solange and he had the photos of like him with LeBron and him standing next to Solange.

I feel like they still Photoshop that, those pictures because there's no way Bowah was that much smaller than Salon's and she was only one year older than him. But that was like that perfect puberty time. Like, you know in like eighth grade when all the boys look like they're fucking seven years old and all the girls are going through puberty so they're taller that was i think that time

where salange was like going through puberty as women do before men and bow wow was just look at that picture bro like are you kidding me yeah that's not like he's on his knees that's insane well he was little bow wow he really was living in he wasn't big bow Big soldier would have been fine in that photo. That's insane that that's only a year difference between him and Salon. Okay, but look, we looked at the photos of Mike Tyson as a kid, and Mom and Ali as a kid. They were drastically different.

No, that was fake. Mike, Ali wasn't, I think they said Ali was 19 in that picture. He was 12. People would just be doing shit like that. But it was funnier to think it wasn't. No, no, absolutely. I agree with you. But, you know, because it's so unbelievable.

was like there's no way Ali was 19 there. Yeah. And then you go on looking like, no, he was actually 12. Did you see this men's health thing with the rappers, which I thought was great? I thought about Bao should have been there. On the cover of this? Yeah, Shad is in shape. Too young. How was he too young? He's older than Wiss Caliphah. Is he? Probably.

Or the same age. Yeah. Or younger. Or younger. So yeah, men's health, you know, hip hop 50. Hip hop 50. I'm guessing. magazine. Yeah, it's to honor hip hop turning 50. It says we gathered six rap legends, Buster Rhymes, Method Man, 50, ludicrous,

Common, and Wis Califa. Basically, talk about men's health. And I think, is this the article where Method Man addressed, he doesn't believe he's a sex symbol? I think it was something. I believe so, yeah. I think Meth was saying he doesn't look at itself as a sex symbol. Methamman, if I know you. you're a sex symbol, you should probably.

Why do you know that? Because I don't even really trust women that you got a crush on his wall on your man. You don't trust women that don't have a crush on Methodman? Yeah, you can't trust that girl. That's interesting, but I think I don't understand what you're saying. You know most girls you grew up would probably have a crush on Method man, right? Yeah.

He was a sex symbol. Even girls my age love Method Man. And then, you know, Juel's and Lloyd Banks took over. But Method Man for, you know, had his chokehold on these young women of the Tri-State. Yeah, that Mary video really did it for them. But this was great to highlight hip hop in a very healthy way. Yeah. It's so great to see all six of these gentlemen looking as healthy as they do.

This was a great representation of hip hop, especially hip hop aging. Yeah. Yeah. So I thought this was great. It was good to see 50, you know, talk with people that he didn't talk to at all his entire career. Yeah. Because he was mean. I love now seeing older 50 get along with everyone for the most.

part. He's still 50 the troll, but he gets along for the most part with everyone. The older I get, the more I understand 50 more and more. Like, I get why he really didn't fuck with nobody for a lot of years. I mean, it's something about, not that I, thankfully, I don't know what it's like, but I can only guess that when somebody stands over you and shoots bullets into you, it can be very hard to open up and trust anybody after that. For sure. And fuck with anybody after that. So the older I get, the more I understand 50's mind. But it is good to see him now in the space where he's kind of taking that wall down a little bit, allow people into his space a little more,

and to do shit like this interact with other rap legends as well. And it's just dope to see, you know, hip hop and health in the same kind of form because it is important that, you know, we start making health cool. And we've done some, we've taken some strides in that direction over the years to kind of implement health into hip hop. We sat down and had a great conversation with Stiles P about his role in making health cool in hip hop.

So shout out to Men's Health magazine for this and salute to hip hop turn to 50. Listen, if I'm Luda or Wiz going to this shoot, I'm telling the producers on the walk-in, everyone piss in a cup or they get an asterisk next to their name on the cover. Why is that? We're definitely going, come on.

If I'm coming in here, natural, Sorry Busta, Hurtas. You a hater. I definitely smell some windstrel coming from your green room. You think 50 took a shot, took the Roysts for the shoot? No, I think 50's done steroids before, and I think Buster's done steroids before. They're from that era. I don't think they do them now.

You never know. I doubt it. I highly doubt it. I don't think 50 is. 50 doesn't, I don't think he cares as much about the gym and lifting all those weights as he once did. Yeah, he looked out of breath during the Super Bowl. Don't steroids affect sexual performance? It can.

If it's like an excessive use of it. I feel like that would be a risk at like their age that they wouldn't want to take. I listened to a podcast with a who's like the main, main steroid guy in baseball? Mark McGuire. Before Mark. Pete, no, not Pete Rose. He gambled. Jose, no.

Jose Conceco? Yes. Jose Conceco, right? He's the one that baseball. I'm the A's. Yeah. Yeah. I was listening to a podcast with him and Neil Brennan, actually.

And they asked about- Oh, he did blocks? No, he did the champs. Nice. So they asked him about the sexual thing, because there was always the rumor that steroids like shrunk your dick. And he was saying, no, it's a muscle. So it got significantly bigger,

but his balls shrunk so small that he could not see them anymore. Oh, my God. Yeah. But I mean, like, do you need your balls like that? I mean, if you're trying to procreate... For sex. I think you need your balls. Okay.

Just a guess. I mean... He got bigger and his... He said his dick got way bigger because it is a muscle like it grew. And his balls just shrunk extrude... Like, he couldn't see them type thing. That's what he...

And I mean, he's been known to be a liar, though. I just want to make that clear. Well, I mean, why would you lie about your balls disappearing? I don't know what... If Neil asked me about my dick, if I would lie or not. I would ask... He was put on the... I would ask, why is you asking about my dick?

I mean, if you're on a comedy podcast, you don't think it'd be brought up for one of the biggest steroid users ever, and that was the big rumor, like, don't take steroids. That was always the shit in high school. Don't take steroids because your dick will shrink. And all of us were like, well, no, thanks. I don't care about athletics that much.

The same thing they tried to do with wheat at one point. Oh, that it lowered your sperm count? Yeah. Yeah, but who was trying to have a kid at that point? If you can get another inch on your dick, but your balls were like Jose. like how he described it, would you do it? Is the health of my balls okay, though?

Or they're just smaller? They're just like cartoonishly small. That's a conversational piece. It looks like you just got a pop to the stick. There's nothing else. Cartoonishly smaller. What's cartoonishly small in balls? What cartoon dicks have you seen?

It looks like a dog post getting snipped. It's just like a little snatched. It's just like a little thing. It's just like a little ziggily. Yeah, it's just like a little gizzard. Nah, I don't know, man. Like a turkey neck? Yes, exactly.

Oh, man, no, I don't know, man. But they still work. I guess, but like. Not as well as they used to. Oh, then, no, I wouldn't do that. You lose sperm count. No, no, I need some. No, but like, say you,

I'm already needs some siblings. No, but I'm saying, like, say, say you can still reproduce, but your dick would get an inch or two bigger. However, what's the threshold? Would you take that? I'm willing to, I'm willing to compromise my balls being a little smaller. Why not? A little?

It'll be like non-existent. If I can still, yeah, if I can still reproduce, why not? If I could still reproduce. What a conversation piece. Yeah. Like when she gets down there. Yeah. And it would be easier to sit.

Like listen, a genie came and said, I have an extra inch. But my balls went away. You could cross your legs easier. True. You could like bicycling would be more comfortable. It's easier for her to get to the gooch too. Yeah. And certain.

Yeah. I'm down. I'm in. I'm in. Certain chairs and, you know, shorts you wear. You don't have to worry. Sometimes you sit down too fast. in a chair that's designed weird.

Yeah. And you kind of catch. Yeah, balls can be an inconvenience. They are. Hot day, they suck in a hot day. On this weather. Yeah. Yeah, listen, you know what?

Just shrink my balls, period. I don't need the extra. Yeah, not I think about it. Just get rid of them. Yeah, just we can kind of do away with those. All right. Well, thank you, Jose. Thanks, Jose.

You stand athletes, pause. I suppose we can. Why is John Moran getting tattoos really news? It's just anything Jada. Is this his rebrand? Because he had multiple artists at one time working on a tattoo piece, so it's probably something that you don't see all the time.

Well, this is kind of the new... They're adding... What is it? Anesthesia? Like when they put you to sleep at the dentist and shit. Yeah. So a lot of tattoo artists are getting certified in that and adding an extra buck 50 per hour. In anesthesiology, that's like extremely dangerous.

A lot of tattoo artists. are getting their actual, not like in some basement in Queens. Like they're really going to get certified. And people are just knocking out for like fucking 12 hours and they're getting multiple tattoo artists to just knock out full pieces at once, which if you know exactly what you want as far as a big piece goes, I think it's a great idea if you have the money. Yeah. Knock it out.

Like I wouldn't suggest doing that with the idea of putting dream chasers on your stomach if you're not a dream chaser. But who am I to judge? Right. No, he chased his dreams. He did it. Why does he have the 100 emoji and dream chasers on a stomach? Well, he's keeping it 100. With the chasers?

Yeah, maybe. I don't know. Listen, I follow Meek. I've never seen him even at Jha. Even when Jai was going through it, you feel like Meek would be the one that would stand up for him. Yeah. Because Meek always stands up for the person that's in the wrong. He has the way of doing that. What do you think of the Memphis Grizzly tattoo? Short-sighted.

He's a lifer. caused this much chaos with that organization already. You really think you're staying there your whole career? What happens when he goes to the Clippers and the jersey is still kind of showing half of the grizzly? I mean, I think it's part of his story, part of his journey, no matter what happens. If he's, if he's not with the Grizzlies in the next four or five years, I think that he can still have the Memphis Grizzly logo on his back. Like, it's part of his story. I get it for like the college you went to because that's never going to change. That's like an NBA logo. Yeah, but it's never going to change. That was a team that drafted him.

That was his first NBA team. Yeah, but he's playing against other. If he retired, I'm with it. I fully understand. But like, you're active in the league playing against the Grizzlies and you have a grisly stat. It's like insane to me. I don't want to bring up like Mike again, but is that not the Los Angeles

Knights logo from it? It appears to be, yes. Do you think he got that in honor of the classic film? Listen. Was that for Bowell? T-T. J-Tom. Yeah, that may have inspired him with Josh Young.

That may have been a movie that inspired. him to really who? Calvin Coolidge. I thought it was Cambridge. Cambridge. Yeah. Who's Calvin Cambridge? There's a like Mike too.

That's a president. That's a president. Yes, that is president. How did you feel about like the four aces? Like you felt like I didn't feel any.

He felt like he was a royal flush. Well, I mean, I don't even think that's a royal flesh. It adds into the whole Life's a Game. Life's a Gamble. Is it Life's a Game or Life's a Gamble? Probably Life's a Gamble.

Yeah, it looks like there's a B. Yeah, Life's a Gambling. I feel like the dice with that font and Life's a Gamble is very, very like, Jill. Latin King. Like, his nickname would be Joker, I feel like if you have that tattoo. Life's a Gamble? That's a Hispanic tattoo.

You think Kobe appreciates these down here? I mean, to me, that makes the most sense for any NBA player. All right, do you feel that he has displayed the Mamba mentality? at all. I mean, once they tell me to put the guns down, he said, fuck that, I'm doing it again. So that's what I'm a mentality. Yeah, don't stop.

Don't stop. Keep fucking going. No, I get it. That makes sense. Listen, thousand shots a day. Yeah, got to do that. Off the court. It doesn't matter.

On or off the court. Doesn't matter. I just hope that Jai has a healthy and a great season. He is one of my favorite players to watch and hopefully he stays out of trouble this year. Because he is, you know, Nike didn't walk away from him, so they believe in this kid. He tatted.

He's a lifer. Oh, he has to. That was part of the contract. You got to stay. Absolutely. But, I mean, I'm not judging whatever he wants to get. It's good artwork, for sure. Whatever he wants to get is none of my business.

I will say the tattoo artist did a great job of executing what he did want, whether I agree. And he has one of the best designed of personal Nike sneakers I've seen in a long time. Yeah, they're good. I like them. Because it's hit and miss some times with these, you know, these sneakers and these, these, these personal, you know, models that these players get. It's like, oh, those are trash.

But Jha, his model is one of the best that I've seen in a while. I will say, though, getting a full back piece and full chest piece in one sitting. God, man. He is going to be a sore human being for quite some time. Yeah, how do you sleep?

How do you sleep? Mama mentality. Can you shower? No sleep. You can shower, but just not like. Like his whole chest and back is pause. I don't think he got, did he get all of that done in one session?

A good amount of that looked very new. Not like, you could definitely see that there was some older tattoos in there, but 90% of his front and back paws looked like that was brand new. Good save. You know, beat you to it. Yeah, most of that whole lower chest piece, the stomach part is new. Jeez, that amount on your stomach, every move you fucking make would hurt. Yeah, and I think that whole, the whole back piece was new because they showed the video of him getting the stencil. prior to that.

I'm glad I never got a tattoo. I think for a prank, we should, like, put some anesthesia in mall's tea and then just have him like... All right, Lizzo. Or Bill Pat. And then just have him wake up with a full back tat. But see how long it takes him to realize it? Did I have a back tat?

Yeah, you never know. I feel like he would hurt. I feel like he would... He may not know why. Like, he's just like, I'm sore. I would know if I had a tattoo on my back if I woke up. How long do you think? I think it would take a while.

As soon as I wake up. You could have just slept wrong. You didn't wake up and say, oh, a tattoo. tattoo. No, you would feel it. You've never had a tattoo. It would be like a beast day. Exactly. This is which is why I would feel that there's been needles in my back and ink on my skin. No, you just feel sore. You would just feel sore.

It's like a deep tissue mask. If it's a full back piece, you would just feel a full soreness. You wouldn't feel like a one area. Yeah, but then as soon as I start rubbing my back, like, damn, why is it? I'm going to feel like raised skin. Well, that, yes. Like, you're going to feel it. But we'd like put in a spot that you can't reach. I would still, like, get to a mirror. I'm like, what the fuck is. Why is my back?

we'll see my back. I don't know why y'all asking me a thousand questions. I would notice if it was a tattoo on my fucking back. How mad would you be if it was... Extreme.

The exact same basely tattoo that I have. Extremely bad. Or it matched Eddins' thigh tat. Extreme. Or if it was just Edin. Oh, my God. Like the Stevo version,

but of Edin's face. Like the way he got the R logo tatted, you got the Thank You, Edon, tattooed on your thigh. I would die. Why would you die? I don't want to.

want Eddyn's name on my fucking saying thank you. No, I don't want that on my back. No, not at all. No? Fuck, no. I'm just glad I never got attacked because I know I'm one of those people that

with OCD, I can't, I wouldn't be able to see any blank canvas. Usually I was at 100%. And I know that about myself, which is why I never got a tattoo. What about a tattoo? Tehr. That represents something that I'm just not a part of.

You killed the gang. For the bricks you lost? You killed the game. Yeah. What game did I kill? I didn't kill no game. Killing the game right now. Anyway, you stay in sports.

What else in sports? You get 92 money bags. Like the way 6-9 got all those 6-9? No, thank you. Just, just... Well, I'm good. Or like, the way the autistic kid from OVO has the Louis Vuitton shit all over him. You can get, like, the money bags.

Autistic kid from OVO? Why you got to brought up? He's autistic. I shouldn't have said that. I'm sorry. Keep it, though. Oh, smiley. I like his music.

I think he's entertaining. Oh. And not... I don't think he's... autism is entertaining. I think his music is good. Okay. Did you guys see the women's 100 meter dash of the World

World University Games? No, I did not. Is that her? Somalia was Somali Athletics Foundation sent his, the president of the Somali Athletics Foundation sent his niece to the World University Games this year. And let's just say

she wasn't very fast. You have not seen this video? I have not seen this video. But I'm looking at what she's wearing. Listen, representation matters. It's good that she was in the race. Is it? I feel like they should put one normal person in every race

just so you can really see how fast these girls are cooking. All right. See, this is a perfect example of the world wanting to be so inclusive and not wanting people to feel left out. That's not what happened here, though. They just didn't hold like auditions for... Wait, wait, wait. Auditions.

Is that what it's called? Or whatever. Qualify. She shouldn't even be, she shouldn't have been in the race period. Like, you should have to qualify no matter. Somebody in Somalia that is much faster. But I'm just saying this is them wanting to be inclusive. This is nepotism.

Net baby on a hundred meters. I think it's related. I think nepotism and inclusiveness is. It's, I don't want to be the, it's offensive guy. And maybe I'm being biased because I ran track at one point. These athletes worked extremely hard their entire lives to get to this stage.

It is offensive. To just throw somebody there, like, that's offensive. Like, you know how hard these people have worked to get to beat in this track meet? And then you just throw a niece next to you and they're on the world stage. Well, would you rather have it be an empty lane? Yes. Yes. I kind of like the idea of putting average people in one event just so you can see how good these Olympic athletes actually are.

Well, you ran high school track. College. All right. In high school track, for the first week of outdoors. mostly women have this idea that they're going to join the track team because usually track teams don't cut people. And it's like, oh, it'll be a great way to stay in shape and it's nice out now and like, let me do that. That lasts for one week. Oh, yeah.

So that first meet of the year ends up looking a lot like this where it's people that actually take track seriously that are there that have been training throughout the winter and then someone in lane two. And this is what high school track looks like. Yeah, but that's just come on at least the beginning. That's ridiculous. I'm saying high school. this is the world university games. Countries versus country. Yes.

How did she pull lane three? No, no, no. It's four or five. But this, like she should have been in either one or nine. What fuck is she doing in lane three? And the 100 meter dash outside of one and nine. It doesn't really matter too much.

But it's like, get, that's the more offensive thing. On the curve is where it matters. Wasting a fucking lane. Yeah. Waste a lane. Yo,

what is this, man? Or literally find anything. This young lady should not have been. in this 100 meter sprint. That wasn't a sprint. No. Oh, it was her version of a sprint.

Okay. I could tell about her tities was bouncing. She wasn't going far. Like, she had no sports. The titty? It was the titties I gave it away? Did you see the baggy shorts? Bro.

Did you see her? Yeah, like, are you kidding? All right. Lizzo needed to be at this event just to point out who should be on the track and who shouldn't. If Lizzo folling her, she probably would have friends. This could be Lizzo's community service

after she loses the case. Just go to track meets and say who can cannot be. Listen, you're a little overweight, sweetie. No, it's not happy. A little heavy coming out the blind. Not a lot of knee lifts on that one. No, no, this was, I didn't see this, but I know why I didn't see it.

That's just absolutely ridiculous. And that's even like not, Julian, you're saying put a regular person in, that's not even a regular person. Like, she would be slow against a regular person. Like, that's crazy. Yeah, you're right. Well, listen, I mean, good for the family.

I hope she achieved her dreams. So funny. Maybe that's what she always wanted to do. You never know. This Olympics is going to be interesting with, I'm not saying this in a negative way, but I think there's going to be a lot of, like, trans-competing athletes that are really going to fuck up,

like, a lot of the events fucked up in, like, a sense that people are going to get mad. A lot of these, like, the female athletes that are at that level aren't really, pro, like, them doing their stuff because it's, you know, for all the implications, all that, you don't need to get into it.

Are we giving away false information right now? The Olympics said that come the next summer games, there will allow transgender athletes to... I mean, it's already... I think they have to. They don't have to. They really don't have to. I'm pretty sure.

I promise you they don't have to. They could just say no. Yeah, I don't think they have to. All right. And then imagine what happens with the Olympic Committee says no to trans athletes. Nothing? Okay.

What's going to happen to the Olympic Committee? Listen, if they want to have Bud Light just sponsor the, like, the trans games, have a blast. Oh, watch. The International Olympic Committee has announced a new framework on transgender athletes saying that no athlete should be excluded from competition on the assumption of an advantage due to their gender. Long story short, they're allowing transgender. Boom. And they're about to run fucking 10 flat. Oh, I smoke on these bids.

I can't wait for the women's events now. They're going to run 11-5 and get absolute gassed. That's trash. though because women's track, I think, is in one of the best places it's ever been. Like, even the last World Games, we watched the women's more than we watch the men. They're banned from track. All right, thank God. So they're banned from track, but not banned from what?

Certain sports. Well, they've upped it now. So apparently what I, let's clarify, what I read was the rules in 2021. Now in 2023, the new announced regulations come into force. They came into force on March 31st. They prohibit athletes who have gone through what the W.A. would call male puberty from participating in female world ranking competitions. Oh, so they can't.

Of course they can't. What do you mean, of course? What country? Wait, they would have to change. That's just not right, bro. What country are the summer games in? Where is it this year? Is it in a progressive country?

I know we have next. Oh, well, better not be in Florida then. Paris. Oh, pretty progressive. They can get that off in Paris. You can do that in Paris. So basically, you can't. But trust me, the China, the Beijing games?

Not happening. That wasn't happened in 08. No. So transgender men can perform, but transgender women cannot be in the women's sports. So transgendered men. Yes. There's no way they would even be. So people who were born, women assigned women at birth, but became transgender men,

they can participate in the men's sport. But that shit would never have it. But they won't qualify because they can't qualify. Who does assigned women at birth me? Demaris. a woman Assigned women They call it assigned

Because who's they Because people say that you're not a born a gender So Who said you're not born a gender They Are you fucking kidding me? You're born a sex You're not born a gender

This is not my thoughts Okay You're born a sex So you are born male or female So I'm sorry Not even assigned women at birth Assigned female at birth Assigned person

So I was assigned female at birth they told me that I was a girl because I had a coochie. How'd you feel about that? That's what they, that's a scientific term. Yes. If my brain and my body chemistry instead said that I was going to be a man or that I felt like a man, that I would be a trans. And I decided to, you know, transform, I would be a transgender. A transformer.

Even though I was born with a coochie, I would be a transgender man. Combination. What? You couldn't wait to get that off. I can't wait for the combination summer. those those games the combination combination games it's gonna go crazy I got that on TiVo

I just listen man it will be and it's as fucked up as it is I'm definitely watching any woman's event that has a transgender in it because homie is gonna smoke that's what I'm saying it's gonna look like the Somali girl

come on man you have to watch that shit you have to it's gonna be hilarious imagine weight lifting like what are we talking about Like you have to, you almost have to tune it just to watch the fucking, just the circus. It's like, what the fuck is this? Like, we just have to, listen, man. Like, this is the Olympics.

Listen, I'm all for, listen, be whatever you want to be, whatever you feel you are. Great. Great for you. I don't care about that. But when you start talking about competing, male versus female, whatever you decide you feel like you may be, it's going to be on full display if you're in. the wrong competition. How messy do you think

2008 summer Olympics in L.A. is going to be? We pot out there. I mean, we have to. Yeah, 202028 is in L.A. Oh, yeah. 2024 is in Paris and then after that the summer game.

Don't we get the World Cup next four round two? They said they started like displacing the homeless people. Like, they got to like move. Well, I mean, a lot of the reason they built Sophie Stadium outside of football was So five. I call it, you know. We're closer, so I call it Sophie. Yeah, you know her personally.

Yeah. One of your joints. Yeah, one of your pieces. Yeah, it's my angle with the big. Yeah. Was so they could get the Olympic bid. Like the Rams lucked up. I don't know if the Rams were getting that stadium if they weren't trying to get that Olympic bid.

That's beautiful, too. That's going to, I mean, you've seen the documentaries about like, that shit, even in the beginning of the little baby doc of how the summer games in 96 drastically changed Atlanta. South Central is going to look. crazy in four years. Well, the whole California is going to look a lot different in four years. But if the main stadium for the summer games is going to be in Englewood, that's wild. Well, that area has already started to change. Oh, for sure.

It's definitely judgment. A lot of, like, developments have happened over there, a lot of businesses. I think it's, you know, a lot of people that are from there. At first, I think they were indifferent about it. They kind of didn't know how to feel about a stadium being right there in their backyard. And I went, was it last year? I finally went to a game there. And it is, it's wild how literally your house is right here on the corner.

And like two blocks over is the stadium. You can hear Game Town from your. Yeah, like it's insane. In the middle of Englewood. But I know a lot of people, they didn't know how to feel about it at first when the idea first came. But I think a lot of people in that area now are starting to kind of settle in and not be so mad at the stadium being there.

I think they've accepted it. Obviously, you know, the property. value in the neighborhood has went up. So, I mean, it helps. I know at first it's a thing with people that were born and raised there thinking that it's just going to, like, disrupt the entire community. But I think that it is benefits of having a beautiful stadium, like the SoFi Stadium, in your backyard.

Well, I'm curious, too, and I don't want to make this too local for the West Coast, but what that'll end up doing to, like, the I.E. In certain parts of the valley, because they're going to push people some, people have to go somewhere. Yeah. And Long Beach is only doing the same. And I'm sure Long Beach is going to be a huge part of the Olympics summer games. So, yeah, the L.A. suburbs are going to get interesting, to say the least.

To say the least about things interesting, there's a video of Beyonce at her show. Where were you? Where was I? I was home. This was in Boston. She had a show in Boston. You love Boston. Do I?

She was getting help down off of, the stage. And the officer kind of It's crew. It's kind of like, you know, he didn't want to You seen Julius Julius got up. Julius walked up and was kind of like ready to put hands on somebody.

But I don't think it was, you know, the internet took the video and they were kind of like, oh, he kind of copped it feel a little bit. He copped her feel. Boston's finest right here, baby. She was safely down that ladder. Boston PD. He's not BFD.

But I think he was trying to make it, when you grab somebody like that, so that when she goes to step down, if she falls, he's able, that's the best place for him. I don't think he was being creepy. I don't think he was being, I don't think so. I don't think he's come to find out what I mean. I'm pretty sure the internet will find out who this guy is. Oh, I'm sure he's lost his job already.

He's crazy. I'm sure they've murdered his family by now. The B.I. Yes. The swarm team? He found him. Yeah, he's out of here. I'm sure his daughter is permanently traumatized at her school.

It's just, you know, when you talk about helping a woman down off of something, it's hand placement can be a little, you know, I don't know where to place my hand, but again, I don't want her to fall. So it's a little, it's a, it's a, it's a blurred line. It is a blurred line. But I don't think that he was being. I don't think he was being creepy either. But watch the other guy.

Because he was on. kind of like the top of her ass. And then at the end, when she had reached the bottom step, he went full left cheek. Well, it was. But he didn't grab her, though. His hand was like placed there just in case. Yeah, it was open palm.

It wasn't like, Wait, if I palmed the bottom of a left cheek. It wasn't like that. Keep going. The fingers weren't curled in. It was like this. It was open palm. It was open palm.

No, keep going. Keep going. Keep going. He wasn't even really touching her. Yeah, it was kind of like just there. That's a nasty angle. For, come on. It's open.

It's not this. If you're on audio, go pull up the video. You can't tell those. What are these? The fibulas? I don't know what those are. You think that's a fibula. Rory.

He didn't say that. You said a fibula. That's your fucking fingertip. Yeah. You know, the fibula. It's a full bone in your, I think it's a yard. This is the lower, lower dorsimus. Your whole leg.

Oh. What are these called again? Bingers. No, metacarpals. That's what I was like. Yeah. You're metacarpal. Okay.

Obviously, everyone knows that. Everybody knows that. Which is connected to the lower. Yeah. The lower east side. Yeah. It's connected to the low east side. This is a Thompson.

The bottom house. I get it. Those look like they are applying a bit of pressure, which would equal to a cuff. Mm. Nah. Again. And if she fell backwards, how is grabbing the bottom of her left cheek going to stop her from falling backwards?

That's because, okay, so you have a baby now. So when you hold her, right, the best place. Amara and Beyonce are not the same. Amara's like eight. pound. It's like a grown woman. And Amar doesn't go down ladders. I'm talking about body composition, right?

The place to catch her will be the place where there's a hook to her. Yeah, if I'm like this. Yeah, somebody already had the back. I think you guys are sleeping on the other guy. Look at the guy on the other side of him. He was being respectful. He had Julius breathing on his neck. He hover handed the entire time.

Watch. He's there for guidance. But look, you can see the shadow. He never touched her. That's good. Hover hand you have to do because it's the fall. Full hover. It's okay to grab the ass.

Hover. He's grabbing ass with no indication of Beyonce. Beyonce at the Super Bowl did a back kick and came back. Like, we really think Beyonce's going to fall off a fucking ladder. I don't think he was being crazy. Guess what? And it's my job to make sure she doesn't fall. I'm going to put my hair wherever the fuck I need to.

Because what's worse than people thinking me grabbing Beyonce's ass is people thinking I let Beyonce fall. Yeah. You don't want to let Beyonce fall. You don't let Beyonce. You can't fall on your way. I don't care if you got to grab her by the back of that blonde wig. you need to hold down for dear life.

And then look, he has her hand. He's escorting her to the next part of the set. Deonse knows where the set is. No, I mean, but you know. She put this together. He's part of the crew, though. He has to, that's his job to make sure she gets to where she needs to be safely. No.

Judging by Julius is, I mean, he has this facial expression all the time. He has a pan to Julius. Whoever filmed this. He looks a bit concerned. He didn't like what happened. And like, why are you grabbing her like a toddler moving her with her hand? Yeah, I think, I don't think he's being creepy. This is a classic case of like they get the veteran cop that probably doesn't know who the artist is.

He's not a cop. He works on the crew. Whatever. Is he? It says crew on the back. But I'm just saying like he's tired. He probably doesn't know who Beyonce. Like he's just like this is an artist.

I'm taking this artist because she has to get down from this thing. Let me explain something. You'd be surprised, ma'all. I understand what you're saying. So white man in Boston. I understand what you're saying. He knows who Beyonce is. I'm guaranteeing you that that man with that crew jacket on that night knew exactly who that lady was.

Okay. So fine. Say he knows who beyond. It doesn't mean he necessarily knows the rules when it comes to touching Beyonce. Listen, that, again, we haven't, we just cracking jokes here, but I don't think he was being inappropriate. I think it's just, again, it's a female. So no matter where you place your hands on a female, when it's going to be like, hey, hey, watch your hands. You don't want to be handsy with a woman.

And first of all, where are y'all getting that this is a retired cop from Boston? This guy, a crew member that travels with him everywhere. No, he's retired. They're not letting a retired cop from Boston just help Beyonce. He's a crew member that has been with them at every tour. He'll be working at event, but he won't be on stage with a crew jacket. No, absolutely. There's definitely retired cops there.

Oh, for sure. If he dipped his hand in ink and went to, like, the cop thing and, like, did their role and then put that on eBay and was like, this is the hand that. You think that would somebody buy it. See? But then that would be creepy. He can monetize this. No. How's it creepy?

You just said my hand print. Because then you're confirming that, yeah, I grabbed her ass. He happened to. No. He helped her. He helped him down the ladder. Somebody grabs Jake's, I mean, Drake's, Drake's ass, would you in and did that? Would you buy it?

Yes. I figure it. There's a word. I just, that I want to use here. I just don't know how progressive we are as a country yet and as a world. Well, the Olympics aren't progressive enough yet. Okay. So I'll listen to there.

It's just, I mean, Moneybag yo just canceled tour dates. It's so crazy. And nobody's helping him get down a ladder. Like, they're going to let Moneybag Yo fall if he comes down a ladder. There's no crew there to help him. Moneybag Yo, he's going to help him. Moneybag yo is canceling some shows on this tour after our low ticket sales. Again, now I guess they're keeping a poll of all of the rappers that are forced to cancel shows due to the low ticket sales.

It's tough to sell tickets, man. Why don't they keep announcing this every time it happens? Because people are miserable on the internet, and this is a great time that we can shit on someone and deflect from the own misery of our lives where we are not succeeding. And along with that, I think that there are people that are just trying to actively point. out, again, just hip hop and music kind of like suffering right now with rappers, not being able to sell tickets to their shows. It's tough. I mean, it's- In the year, Hip Hop 50, it's ironic.

And I think that's why they're doing it so much, honestly. I mean, it's just, again, I go back to the simple fact of a lot of these artists just aren't performers. They aren't artists that you want to pay to go see perform. the music is not really you know worth going to see performed now you have to be more popular than you have to be talented so as you know a lot of those things come into play here when you talk about artists of today

it's just not the music the skill level the talent is not what it used to be a lot of these artists are popular online they have a following online but obviously that doesn't equate to to physical sales, to people paying their money to come out to see these artists. So, yeah, this is just a product of just the game changing and, you know, music not being what it used to be. At what point are we going to blame the booking agents to some degree?

Thank you. Because it is, it's not Moneybag yo's job to know what venues and markets he's the best in. Of course, it's great for his career if he understands that. That's what separates the great artists from the good ones when you know all that stuff. But you are hiring a booking agent. to take 10%, sometimes 20, to know all of these analytics perfectly to check even the temperature of certain markets

where it's not even tangible, like to really understand your music, your career, and your fan base. So as much as we want to throw this on the artist, like, ha, ha, look at little baby, not selling that arena out. If Little Baby is hiring what's supposed to be experts to take 10% of his tour revenue,

which is fucking crazy, and they're supposed to be the best of the best, why are we blaming little baby why aren't we blaming the fucking booking agent that should know that's his job her job their job to know that that market

and baby is not clicking we already know that streams do not equal ticket sales can we please all live in a world that's not all analytics like you need to understand the temperature and the culture of what is going on right now

and you're just trying to cover your ass and make your fucking quota for the month to be like, hey look put a little baby in State Farm. It's like, well, wait, can he do that? Mm-hmm. Yeah. It's fucked like, it's not, these are professional.

You gotta look at UTA and WM. Like, it sucks that the artist gets looked at. Like, it's their fault. And we're not talking about like the artists, like, mans he grew up with that he's trying to give an opportunity to and is doing his fucking best. These are professional booking agencies. And now it hurts the perception and brand of these artists when this happens.

Yeah. If I hire, and I don't want to, like, put it on any specific agency. per se make up three letters ABC if I hire ABC and they're a premier booking agent and they say hey New Roy Moll you guys can sell out the garden and we're like are you sure

like positive we've done all the research we're the best we've been doing this for years hey we also represent the weekend we like all this shit I don't think it's naive especially young artists to go well all right y'all are the ones that know this this is why you're taking 10% and guess who's the only one that's going to get

the pushback their brand getting compromised, they're going to look crazy. They have to deal with their own fans that now can't even go see them because we had to cancel a whole date if we just went to fucking Terminal 5. I could have had my core fan base there. And now these people are like, well, I guess maybe I'll see them next year. I think it just came down to a lot of artists wanting to feel like they are those arena artists.

But then these booking agents, if you talk to them and you fucking schmooze through the industry, they're laughing at their own clients. All the time. And any time you'd be like, well, why would you guys put them there? Like, well, he can't move any tickets. You're a fucking booking agent. Right. Yeah, it's fucked up because now the artist has to...

Just fucking go to a smaller venue and if you sell out right away, make it two nights. Why don't you book out a week at a small venue and see what you can do? It's fucked up because now the artist has to wear that. It's like a stain. It's like, oh, you had to cancel shows. What type of venues was Money Baggieo? I doubt he was trying to do arenas, right? I don't know.

Who would be that booking agent? And I'm not trying to shit a Money Bag, Yo. I know he streams really well, but... Areas. These are arenas. T5. Spectrum Center. Terminal 5.

State Farm Arena. Terminal 5. Rich Stone Arena. These are arenas. Capital One. Wow. These are arenas. Listen, I will be the first one to say I'm, of course, know who MoneyBagio is.

I know a few songs. I'm not well versed in his catalog to know that that's insane. Maybe in Atlanta and like his hometown, but his fans are not. Sexy Red and Finesse too time. where the opening acts. So there's that as well. Which bring fans. Like that's a good lineup.

Yeah, but how many people are going to see sexy red do two records? A lot of. Good amount. I mean, but it's not just her. That's a good supporting act in the moment in time of everything that's happening right now. That's a good thing to add to you. That's a look for sexy red.

That's a look for her. That's a great look for her. I would assume this is her first tour. And it will bring women out. So that's a good look for her. She'll bring women to come out to hear, you know, hear those records. But again, you're asking for a lot of people to want to jump on that when you say arenas. Terminal 5? Okay. Doable? But that's the New York. I feel like. But when you start

saying arenas, I don't know if that many people are going to want to come out to see sexy red. They love her. They listen to it in the car. They listen to it in the crib and the club. Well, that's a supporting supporting act. Yeah, but I'm just saying now you're talking about what else now after that. After we get those songs now, what are we waiting on? Well, a little baby hired Tiana and Tiana is now advertising his tour on her platforms because she's doing his like, you know, his production of his dancer. Now, let me say this.

I saw that too. Shout out to Tiana, the aunties and all of that. dope. I think with Tiana doing this great. I don't think she will. But if Tiana Taylor has little baby up there dancing, his career is over. I don't think so. She was just training his dancers. Let me explain something to you, Julian. You don't like

black people. I love black people. Let me explain something to you. What the fuck? If little baby, gets on stage. Listen to what I'm telling you. If little baby gets on stage and Tiana has him dancing, I think she will. Keep going.

His career is going to flop. Don't bring up Drake. 2020, what year was it? When Kendrick made his return a day in Vegas, 2020, 21? Different artists. I was there. Different artists.

Little baby was the opening, Little baby was the last artist before Kendrick. He did a whole fucking choreography set with his dancers. Little baby? Yes. He danced? Yes. Oh, yeah.

You're right. Yes. I was there. In Vegas. I saw it. Two years ago, he was dancing. Dancing? Dancing?

Yeah. And he had a set. Like he had this, like, giant chair thing. Rappers don't dance. I'll find it. I'll find video of it. Not little babies. Tupac dance.

Big Daddy Kane danced. Dancing with one of his dances like grinding on. That's different. I'm talking about if he's up there doing a full four count. A fork on you. Yo, it's going to get bad. But why can't rappers can do that? Why not?

Bro, rappers can't dance, man. I'm sorry. It's fucked up, but they just can't. Kendrick danced in his show. Different type of artists. So is it rappers can't dance or hood rappers can dance? Which one is? I didn't get her some content.

It's just the type of content, the type of music you making. Like, it's just you can't, you can't, that dance is very, listen, dancing for rappers is almost like when it comes to acting for rappers. Like, once you go too far into the acting lane, it's hard to come back into the rapping lane. Offset be dancing. Like, all set be, like, dancing. No, they were dancers before they started rapping. Like, the meos, they were break dancing

doing that before they started rapping. That was their thing. Okay, but most people don't know them for that. Most people just know them for a rapping. Don't box baby in, man. Let him get his choreography off. I fuck with a little baby. If he's up there doing a four count,

bro, that's going to be bad. You don't think that if someone did a fucking, oh, yeah, there he is. That's not really dancing. No, that's just... You don't think that clip would go viral and that would help his show out if... There was a video of baby dancing at the first one.

You could get into his zone and vibe to his lyrics, but he can't be up there doing four-count full choreography. He can't. He's just not that type of artist. People don't want to, I don't even think people want to see Little Baby doing that. There you go. Right there. There you goes.

I would watch a little baby. He's a little stiff. Pause. Tiana can't have him in the full count. That's all I'm saying. All right. Voicemails. Love voicemails.

Should we start with the classic? relationship issues? I mean, we are the relationship gurus that seem to have it all figured out. Everybody has relationship issues, so do you all? Me? You have to be in one.

Oh. You never had a relationship issue? Of course I have. Play the voicemail. Plenty of relationship issues. Hey, what's up, guys? It's R.K. from Scarborough. Just had a quick question.

It might be a follow-up still. It might be a follow-up still. I'm trying to break up with this girl for the past like five, six months. And every time I... She's cheesing them. Get to it, something happens like, I'm in the middle of breaking up with her

and her grandpa passes away. You know, I kind of can't be like, ah, sucks for you. That's not for it. You know what I mean? And then the next time after that, you know what I mean? This girl was like homeless

literally the day before and she was going to tell me and, man, I don't know, it just seems like every time. something keeps popping up and like I'm only laughing because I've been through something similar like crazy you know like doxing me

recording everything take pictures of me when I'm not looking and stuff and like is it hip hop if I go on her phone and I just delete all the memories of me and all that calling them memories is crazy I'm just asking for a friend

cough these guys I love you guys. I love Canada. What was his name again? RK. I've been through similar shit like that when you're trying to get out of a relationship

and bad shit just keeps happening to them and you're not like a terrible person. So it's like, all right, family member passed. Let me think like I could withstand another month, two months per se. If a family member died, you have to dug it out. Going homeless in that stretch.

RK. from Scarborough. First of all, it's not hip hop to ever go do a girl's phone. Number one. Not if you're deleting the memories, though. No, never go to one. Memories don't live like...

Wiping her camera log is hilarious. Number two, I think this is just the universe telling you that this is just your person. No. That's the last thing I thought you were about to say, well, is your advice? I thought you were about to say,

oh, fuck a grandfather. Is your advice? No, not might as well. That's never my advice. What I'm saying is the universe grandfather died and then she was homeless. That might be the universe. of saying, yo, this woman needs you in her life in some capacity.

Like, I don't think you should abandon her, leave her, break up with her because these things are happening. She obviously needs someone. Well, he should ask himself if he was homeless, would she still fuck with him? No, he shouldn't ask himself that. Why not? No. Because you don't do things for people in hopes that they'll return it.

You do things for people because you're a good person or not. I'm just trying to stand up as a man that maybe. maybe his excuse should be like, yo, I'm not trying to fuck with a bum. You know what? Get your shit together first. Sorry, it's parking. I have to change the meter.

Get your shit together first and then come back to me. Come back to me healed. It's your brake control arm. Yeah, but those are things that she can't, like death she can't control, obviously. Grandfather died. Yeah, but the moment she's homeless,

like that is kind of your way out to be like, hey, I'm just at a point in my life. You have a lot going on. Maybe you should focus on you first and then down the line when you get it together maybe our past will crawl. But if you generally care about her

and she's homeless and you got a crib, you're probably going to take her in. Bro, she's your girlfriend. Like, you can't leave your girlfriend when she's homeless, bro. That is fucked up. Do you guys watch Curb?

Of course. I don't want to, I mean, I don't think I'm spoiling. Curbs's been out forever. You know when he's dating Vivica A. Fox? Mm-hmm. And he wants to break up with her,

but then she gets cancer. Yeah. And then he tries to find a therapist to tell her that he's too toxic to be around since she has cancer. That could be a strategy. Y'all should go to a couple's therapist, but one you pick out and be like, it could be a strategy, but that's still fucked up.

Or is that a really kind way to get rid of somebody? He didn't even tell us why he wanted, like, not want to be with you. He hates that girl. He definitely hates that girl. If you want to go through somebody's phone and delete, go through their phone to delete all memories of you hoping she gets over you, you need to leave her alone. You hate that person. That's sick.

Like her own personal memories, she wants to get rid of. That's sick. I'm not an advocate for being with women that you hate low-key. like just no matter what she's going through like make sure she's good like you need to go what was her relationship with her grandfather Rory That's a good question

Good question No it's not What if he really wasn't shit She just pulled up to the funeral Like and just for the berries Like to just to bury them But who's to say they had a relationship I just feel like

In those moments You gotta kind of like I think that your karma Will be taking care of if you kind of stay with a person and kind of like be that person for them in those moments. I'm surprised that's your side. I can not believe that is your response. Yeah, I think that would help him do that.

I thought you would have the logical response of if you clearly don't like this person, even though she has a lot going on in her life, that's not your problem at this point. Dragging her along is going to make it worse than just her grandfather. I'm not saying drag. And being homeless in Toronto was fucking crazy. Also, this is, why is that crazy? It's cold up there. Yeah, one, it's cold.

Wildfires. Two, I just feel like it's such a constant. like it's our neighbors to the north they're so nice they would take anyone in drake's just knock on a door and i feel like some drake's got some room that's true you go to the estate scarborough mall he's on tour he'd be crying he'd be on his knees in a puddle crying she went to the estate the embassy that could maybe keep them together maybe he'll like her more once he finds out that she's up at the embassy he's on tour like it's not that threatening Homes open.

Yo, you got to stay with her still. It's just the Kentucky Wildcat staying there right now, doing something. Yeah, okay. Don't leave that girl while she's homeless, man. Don't do that. That's fucked. That's a different level fuck. But any woman would leave him mad if he was homeless, though.

No, no, that's not true. Bitches move niggas in their cribs. Yeah, I'm about to say that's definitely not true. I've been moved to. Yeah, like, that's not true, man. Don't do that. Nah. I just.

My best work. Yeah. Whoa. Do you Mary say that out loud? I said it all loud. No, they didn't hear you. I said the best dick comes from men who needed somewhere to stay. She said, no.

She said the best dick come from homeless dudes. I know what she means, though. Yeah. When I needed a place to stay out of it. I was laying wood. You got to get them copy of them keys. You fuck that copy out of you. And like you have nothing else going on.

You don't even know your pussy can make keys. You ain't even know that, did you, DeMaris. It's called a queef. DeMaris ain't even know how pussy can make a copy of house keys. You ain't know that. Look how fast. You're a locksmith. Boxsmith.

Boxing. Oh, man. All right, let's get to the next one. I have three kids, and I have one on the way. I have two baby mommas, and my fourth kid will give me my third. And me and her were together until she got pregnant, and then after she got pregnant, she went nuts, and then things didn't go so good. Now we're not together.

She was asking me to do crazy shit that I'm not with. So my question is, like raise kids? Should I try to do the shit she's asking me to do And act like I like her Or should I just do me and say fuck it And just do what I got to do and keep better myself And not worry about what she wants me to do And just do me

And take what she got coming for me Because I already know what it is I've been through it twice Let me know This is really crazy Peace Peace Um

Well you have to be consistent and say yes Continue to pretend to like her No he doesn't like himself. He said, yep, I know what's coming. Why do you keep putting yourself in these situations with these women? I can't answer this without knowing what she wants you to do. Yeah.

Probably be around. Yeah, take care of responsibility. Yeah, take care of responsibilities, fucking be a man, like raise his children. I don't know. She got pregnant and went crazy and was like, yo, you have to be the father since you are. Yeah. I don't understand what he's saying. Like, yo, she got pregnant and then she went crazy.

What does that mean? That's such a blanketed statement. Well, that is true. yeah but go crazy how it's hormones yeah hormones change yes emotions change yeah i get that part but he's saying like i've been through this twice already yeah okay so then sir you're the problem you should stop coming inside of women yeah you should wear a condom like a lot of these a lot of these issues wouldn't be here if you just wore a two dollar condom

like condoms are two dollars no they're not they're more than that but like one single condom if you buy in bulk well like a pack of 12 is like like $30 now. 1899, $20, $20 something like. Inflation is crazy. They're like cigarettes. Rory said. Same thing.

What? Is that a Biden thing? Why are they so expensive? Definitely a bomb. Yeah, that's a Biden thing. Put that on the demon rats. But yeah, I Levi, you're the problem here, sir. You are having sex with women and then coming in them and getting them pregnant

and then expecting them to be okay with, I guess, whatever else bullshit you have going on in your life. And if you have, this is your third baby. mother with three kids is just your fourth on the way. I'm pretty sure that this woman had to deal with some stuff from your other two baby mothers. And now she has to, you know, because if you have two kids and you're in a relationship with a girl, like she kind of sort of has to have a relationship to some extent with your kids as well.

Yeah. She has to share her time with you with your kids. I'm pretty sure she's getting some type of energy from your two other baby mothers. So it's a lot that that girl had to deal with as well. well. So yeah, Levi, I think, is that the thing, Levi? Levi, I think you're the problem. I think that you sir need to either go get a vasectomy. That's what's called. Get a vasectomy if you don't want to wear condoms. But take care of your fucking kids. Take steroids. Take care of your kids. Take your responsibilities. Be a man. It's not hip hop to have kids and not take care of your kids.

That's not hip hop at all. Actually, it might be like step on a hip hop. Yeah. I think the guy that set up the first turntables might have been going through that same. I mean, he might have had some kids that he wasn't. But at one point, Brenda had to be. Yeah, let's be progressive in hip hop. It's not hip hop to have kids and not take care of them. Like, let's get that fucking energy out of hip hop. But take care of your fucking kids.

Take care of responsibilities. And get a vasectomy. Julian, I did see something. Maybe we could do it for Patreon. My friend is gay but has a family. Was that something I thought? Oh, that's a. It looks fucking nuts.

It's a good one. do it. My friend is gay. No, like it's this guy has a girl who's he's married into a family. The girl's family doesn't like gay people. They're extremely religious. His best friend is gay.

And they like want him to stop being friends with this guy. It's like fucked up. We can save that one. Yeah. We'll do one more and then we'll save that one for page. All right, cool. All right, let's do this. This is a good one. What's up, Roy? What's up, Ma? I've been fucking with you guys since the old pie.

I'm 43 years old, one of your older listeners. So, Mom, I fuck with you with everything you'd be saying. My situation is I have been in a situation ship for the past eight years. Swack. Somebody that's a little bit older to me. Love it. The way the situation started, it wasn't supposed to be anything serious. However, we won't, I know me.

I'm a creature of habit. I get comfortable in situations. We both develop feelings for each other and here we are eight years later. My problem is I realize I'm getting older, not younger. and I want to start doing that old people couple shit, you know. And I can't do that with somebody who's not willing to give me 100% of them. And I am trying to give 100% of me. I already know what I need to do.

I pretty much know what you guys are going to tell me. But I need to hear it because I need to help love. And like I said, since I'm a creature of habit, it's hard for me to let go of situations, especially when my parents are involved. So just let me hear it. All right. Peace. I'm going to assume he's married with kids, right? I'm going to assume that he has kids.

I'm going to assume that he is married. It's a situation ship. Or he's probably telling her, like, you know, we're going through a divorce. We're separated. We're not together. Baby girl. Go ahead and leave that, man. Because mall's waiting for you.

That's true. But I'm just, that's not. You think about it. That's not. You can think about it now. You can call back. Take some time. Yeah, no, just dump them.

Just move on. She can't dump him. They're not in a relationship. Well, stop being the side chick. Stop answering his calls at 2 a.m. In the situation. In the situation, there's something out there for you that's much healthier than a situation.

And let's be nice. We all understand situationships and how comfortable they can be, especially you have a certain schedule. You don't really maybe have time to do that. Or you didn't want to. But now you're getting to a certain age where that's a thing. You have to change your habits. Yeah.

And this being one of them, you got to move on. Got to move on. Put yourself in a healthier position. Like you say, you're not getting any younger. So you don't have time to waste on shit that's just not beneficial. It's not really going nowhere. Eight years of a situation ship is absolutely fucking crazy. Is it though?

Yes. Eight years? Yes. Three years is like, all right. There are some situationships where both people like go in and out of relationships and y'all just continue to fuck with each other because it's familiar. That's still a situation to me. Doing that for eight years.

Eight years straight of just a situation ship to two of y'all is fucking insane. Yeah. Is it straight or is it fluctuate? I imagine they've had to take a year or two off in between. Like there's no way they've been. I've had situations where I've gotten in a relationship or she's gotten a relationship and we stopped dealing with each other. Yeah, yeah.

But then when it was broken up, we went back and that's at a lengthy time. That's still a situation to me though. I don't consider those situations. You don't consider a roll over minutes? No, not roll over a minute. It's like when y'all are doing like almost relationship shit, but you're aren't like official. Like that's, yeah, but what's wrong with that?

There's a lot. For eight years, shit is fun. For eight years, doing that is a lot wrong with that. That's fucking crazy. Yeah, that's crazy. You spent your mid-30s now into your early 40s doing that? Situation ships are for your 20s, baby.

Yeah, like you're supposed to be. That's not entirely true. No, they're not just for it. I actually think they probably strive better in your 30s and 40s. If someone is just, that's where they're at with their life, they don't want to get in like a fully committed thing.

A situation ship for a someone in their 30s and 40s is perfect. You don't have to go out and fucking date and meet the people. Eight years is a commitment. You're probably busy. Eight years is a commitment. That's two terms. Who commits in a situation ship?

That's the point of a situation ship. You're not committed. No, but a situation. That's why it's crazy. It's a crazy. That's why it's crazy to have a situation ship for eight years. You don't think this woman and that man have fucked other people during the eight years of their situationship.

I'm sure it's happy. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know these people. What I'm saying is to say you have a situation for eight years. Because if it's just that, then that could be like,

you could have an eight year fuck buddy. Like, no, that's just my, like, that's my fuck buddy. But some people would consider that a situation. Yeah, it's not a situation. Nah, for some degree. A fuck buddy could be a situation ship.

Have you fucked a girl that you've fucked eight years ago? Like, I don't want to say recently. Like, but you fucked over time. Yeah. Yeah, that's probably similar to what they're going through. Nah, they sound like they did and deep.

No, she has feelings for them. Yeah, they, they, they're, they don't catch feelings. for your fuck buddy after eight years. I got finity. Or that's when you do catch feelings. Eight years? Eight years of anything is a lot.

I don't get to fuck what it is. A situation ship is absolutely crazy to have for eight years. It's like at some point you got to be like, all right, man, what are we doing? Because this, eight years of this? And we should be living together at this point. And then add in the year and a half pandemic years. We should be living together. That is going through the situation shift through the pandemic is nuts.

You might as well just get married. Half of their, well, that's like the half way point of that. She's leaving out information, though. He's married with kids. He's definitely, he's definitely, he's definitely has kids. He definitely has somebody he's living with. Yeah, 100%. He goes to her house like, you know, when he has free nights and weekends.

When he's at work. Yeah, depending on the type of phone plan he has. We're going to double. He's doing it overnight. We're going to double. I get it. I got to record Patreon. Yeah, I get it.

But to do that for eight years, no. You got to move on, move on to something more solidified, something more concrete, something more stable. because you just, you're going to end up getting your feelings hurt some way down the line if they're not already hurt. Call back and let us know if this has been a fluctuating thing or if it's been straight. And call back and let us know when you cut it off.

Yeah, and what city are in. Unless you said that, I don't remember. No, I did you like, I did you. Okay. For them, for them all. For me? No, I'm cool. You guys are closest than age.

What does that mean? Why are you cool? You don't know. I thought she was looking for love. Chemistry. Who? You. Looking for love.

Yeah. Looking for love. Keys this morning. I'm not looking for love. What he's talking about? Looking for love? I think Edden would be good with a nice cougar. I think he's at that point in his life. Nice older woman. I can use the Sugar Mama.

Yeah. Eddard would be good at that. Sugar mama? Yeah. Like that kind of relationship. For sure. Like he has to edit late and she can just rub his shoulders while he's editing Patreon. I thought I would have to rub her shoulders. No. No, you're the sugar baby. Oh. You get paid.

You get taken care of it. Well, you would rub her shoulders. shoulders and she would give you money. Oh, okay. Yeah. I want one. Yeah. I don't do feet.

Really? He hates feet. Y'all don't know that? I don't hate you. I just don't care. I didn't room with him in Mexico, so I don't know. This is mall's feet. Did you all go head to toe?

Excuse me? There was two beds. Yeah, but like, Summer King. They shared a bathroom. Julian, you thought, let me turn my chair this one. As a grown man, you thought that I shared a bed with Edith? Had to tell us.

Like, you really thought it was a California king. I'm going to ask you again. You thought that I slept on the same mattresses. I'm just thinking different country. It could have been. I don't care what fucking country living is probably not what you're constantly. You think that me and Edin laid down and went to sleep on the same mattress. Had to tell.

What had the pregnancy thing not having, what would the sleeping arrangements be? What do you mean? Oh, I guess that's a good question. Who would have had into the... I did think about that post when we got to the airport. It didn't even matter because it was multiple beds in both rooms. Because I did feel bad that, you know, you guys had to like room it wasn't even bad

I was cool how was the bathroom situation it was pretty fine Rory and Edom probably would have been in the same room I probably would have stayed in Jay's room with the dog We had the best way? Water pressure yeah Yeah I used y'all bathroom because my bathroom To water shower shower it was cool

It was a big shower You could sleep with Ed and snoring next to you That I just can't have that You definitely fell asleep with me snoring I felt asleep like it was I wanted to fucking choke him But it wasn't like after a while After a while it's kind of like that white nose

on the TV. There you go. Did anyone snuggle with a Great Dane? No. Hell no. Damn, that would have been a lot.

When I went back to Mexico, I was big snuggles. Oh, no. With Vice President Al Gore. It's the name of the dog, guys. I'm not snuggling with a big-ass great day. Why not? They're so loving.

I'm not, that's a fucking horse. I know. No. I felt like really safe. You feel like a kid again? I felt safe knowing they were on a property, for sure. Oh, yeah.

Would have it been weird if you guys had, have you guys had been a roommate at that time? No, I probably would have slept in Jay's, because there was like four beds in that other room. So you would I rather have just done that instead of you guys bunking? Probably, yeah. It didn't really matter to me.

Like, I was, I'm with whatever. They had four beds in one room, mind you guys all share a room. There was two rooms with four beds. There was two rooms with two. It was one room. Compelling content, right now. Yeah. It was one room with the room you went,

how many beds? Three? Four. Four plus that weird top bunk. It was like, it was like, five. I think it was twin-sized beds, though. Yeah, no, they weren't even twin-sized.

They were, like, smaller than college dorms. I had to push two beds together type thing. And the room me and Eddine was in, it was two, like, queen-size. Yeah, full-sized. Okay. So Eddn being the big warrior that he is, he needed a bigger, bigger mattress.

So we made sure that he was accommodated well. Had that core strength. Do you spread out, like, when you sleep, or do you sleep just, like, narrow? Like, are you side? I sleep next to an end. infant now, so I... Whatever she gives you?

I'm like, yeah. Yeah. And I'm nervous that like, I'm gonna like roll. I'm like, yeah. I sleep like this. You sleep like you in the overhead? Yes. Pretty much.

Very pensive. I'll sleep like that if I'm cold. Okay. Like if it's cold, I got to sleep like that. Like I got to sleep in one spot. But if it's hot, I'm all over the fucking place. I'm just trying to find that spot. You know, that comfort, that little nook.

Where it's like, okay, I can, I can sleep peacefully. And luckily it was rainy season, so it was cool out. Oh, no, it was great. We just opened the windows and we were. Yeah, it was great. Money. You and Ed didn't need to use. Beautiful, beautiful time in Mexico.

Shout out to Edin singing me a lullaby at night. I did. With the white noise. Oh, yeah. I did. Snort. Well, we would take cars back from Rory's house from recording. Eddn would occasionally fall asleep and snore, and it would scare the driver.

Oh, they would turn around like, what is that? They thought like their car was like troubleshooting. Yeah. That's crazy. I guess is Edd. Yeah. Listen, I missed Edding so much when I went back to Mexico and didn't have a translator. All right, well, I guess we're going to head over to Patreon now.

Yeah. Why not? We got some callbacks. Some return ones. Got a call back. I'm looking forward to this one, honestly. We need to figure this one out. Yeah.

Zadis, aka Dad Bod Pod, aka this is a working title, is available now on Patreon first episode with my guy Kaz, where we just talk about what it's like to be fucking fathers for the first Tom. Big dads. Yeah. Big pop. Well, Gaz is bigger than me.

Yeah. He's a, I mean, like, I didn't, he's a taller person. Oh, total person. Okay. It's,

in stature. Yes. Got you. So, so yeah, check that out. What was that? My phone.

Oh. Merch is still available. New Roryn. Mall. Is that it? Dot com. Sorry. We are so bad at plugging shit.

Go to our Patreon. There's a bunch of new content. We've been shooting a lot of shit. New blog. Our Patreon has been. New vlog is up. Real cool lately. I like our Patreon a lot.

So check that out. And now we're going to go there right now to get a call back from another voicemail. So we will see you guys. Have a safe weekend. We'll talk to y'all soon. I'm that nigga. He's just ginger. Peace.

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