New Rory & MAL - Episode 191 | Tory Lanez Sentencing, Lil Tay Conspiracy, & Trump Talks YSL

Episode Date: August 11, 2023

We get right into the Tory Lanez 10 year sentence. Wass it too much or not enough? Remember Lil Tay? Well there’s an active conspiracy going on between her, her family, and her brother. We discuss who on the team we would fake kill. Hip-Hop 50 is fully active in NY with 50 Cent’s show at the Barclays Center. J Cole popped out and made a bold claim that involved 50 Cent and Michael Jackson. This leads to a disagreement between the team. Also, Nas & Lil Wayne get inducted into Billboard’s Hip-Hop HOF. Rory and Julian give a synopsis on Johnny Football’s entertaining Untold Documentary. Then we discuss Kim & Kanye’s doc. Meanwhile, Trump stirs the pot on the YSL case. It’s time for voicemails. We find out who on the team is the dirty mack. Then we jump to Patreon to answer an exciting callback (available Monday). Tune in as the guys discuss all of this + more! Follow The Team:Rory - https://www.instagram.com/thisisrory/Mal - https://www.instagram.com/mal_bytheway/Eddin - https://www.instagram.com/thankyoueddin/Julian - https://www.instagram.com/julian__nicholas/Demaris - https://www.instagram.com/demarisagiscombe/Merch: https://newrorynmal.com/Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/newrorynmalYouTube Subscribe: https://rb.gy/hk7up Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoicesSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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B. Simone was dancing with some R&B singer? Mm. Hmm. Mm-hmm. Just gonna have your queen taken like Usher. Wait, what? No. You didn't feel any way?

I didn't. I didn't see the clip, so I can't really respond the way you want me to. I bet you didn't. Oh, wait, you're talking about when they were in, like, the, they were in the, that's, um, real teamie. Yeah, it was at some show in the, the, I don't know if it was Barbada. Just going to let Timie take your queen or let Dre take your queen? I mean, you know, listen. He didn't even survive in power.

They left space for Jesus. I think it speaks to my security that I wasn't, you know. Like your security team or your actual. No, I'm like my secure, my secureness. Your insecurity or your outer security? No, no, my, my security. You're confident? Yeah, I'm not even.

You're even tripping? He's not even phased. Yeah. It's part of the show. Yeah. You're screaming inside, though, right now. No. This is just a calm shell.

Routimi is, I was just, you know, I'm more so, I didn't know Routini was actually doing shows and had people. Oh, there's the hate. There we go. I knew it was there. Wow. Damn, I even know he was doing concerts. Like, that's crazy.

I didn't, you know, people show up to that shit? No, I didn't see. I didn't say all of that. ROTini has good music. He does, but have you ever seen a Routini show? No, I have. That's all I'm saying. But I haven't seen a lot of shows.

There's mad shows I haven't seen. You've been to every show at Bowery Ballroom in the last fucking nine years. Wait, now you're saying he's doing Bowery ballroom? Wow. He should be? You don't think he's like a T5 guy? He's not an early-posal guy? No.

No, he's not. He's not Terminal 5, not yet. I just feel like when we had, when we brought, B. Simone out. She didn't dance on you. I definitely did. I don't even think you guys touch knees. Well, there wasn't no music. Like, I wasn't performing.

I could have played music. I could have played music. Well, then you was hate. Didn't we have DJ drama there? There was plenty of music. Yeah, we played music. Well, that was the verses between us and DJ. There was time for the dub.

That wasn't, no. There was a wall too. That would have been. I could have supported you as a friend. That was a wall too. Very weird. That would have been very weird. Anyways, welcome back.

Yeah. Welcome back to a new episode of the new Rory and Mall podcast. I am all. I'm Rory. And we are back. It feels like a lot of shit has happened since. we last seen each other. Like, that's how much shit happens in the day, I believe.

The new cycle has changed drastically in the last few years. Yeah, it's like a lot of, just a lot. But let's get to the first things first, because this is a story that we've been following, we've been, you know, keeping our eyes on and just paying attention to for at least almost three years now. You've caught multiple strays. I caught some strays behind this, this whole situation based on my stance and my feelings and some things that I expressed about it.

How do you feel now, in retrospect, being the intro to Torrey Lane's confession but not confession's album? Confessing that he didn't do it. But if he did, this is how he would have done it. Before we get into that, first of all, Tori Lanes has officially been sentenced to 10 years in prison for the shooting of Meg back in 2020, correct? Yeah.

So that chapter is done hopefully. Meg has found some type of peace behind this sentence in. You know, I know after getting shot, it's such a traumatic thing. People never really truly heal from that. But hopefully this is something to, you know, make her feel a little at ease, at peace, feel like justice was served for her. But it is official. The case is closed. The case is over.

He has been sentenced to 10 years. Now, when this first broke, I had some very strong opinions about it. And it came from a place of just what was going on at that time and just having women in my life that I love and I care about. And I was just raised a certain way. And, you know, it seems like a lot of that has been lost. Even now, there's still people saying that, you know, Meg is wrong and she should be in jail. And she lies, you know, whatever. People can voice their opinion.

Everybody has one. Cool. It's not a special thing. Everybody has an opinion. But should everyone have an opinion? I was a big believer in that for a long time. I'm starting to walk myself. back from everyone being entitled to having opinion.

I think everyone can have an opinion. Everyone can't have a platform to voice that opinion. Or an informed opinion. And that's probably hypocritical of me because I've definitely given my opinion when I haven't been informed at all. Yeah. But it came out of a place of love. Yeah.

This is getting kind of ridiculous. Everyone is allowed to speak. My opinion came out of a place of just, you know, sitting back and seeing things to where it seemed like people were just at a certain level. The level of disrespect for black women had just reached a point that I just was, I can't just sit back and just continue to watch this.

It was around the Brianna Taylor time. It was a lot going on in the country and the world at that time when all of this happened. And then it, you know, when this happened, it was just like, all right, like, if we're at this point now of shooting at black women, like what the fuck is going on? So that's where a lot of that came from.

A lot of people said, I was wrong. I was hating. I didn't understand that part of it. Like, what the fuck am I? Yes, I was hating the fact that a black woman had been shot. Yes. No, you were hating on Tory Lane's. Well, that's what they tried to make it.

Don't know him. Think he's talented. Talent aside. They say, you know, guys, that's why you were saying it. Oh, you know, they're going to draw up anything. But either way, I've asked him opinion. And people felt the way about it. But whatever.

The sentencing came down. He sentenced to 10 years. Now people are saying they felt like the sentencing was too harsh. The DA, I know the prosecution that acts for 13 years. believe. I think maximum was 22. Yeah. Where the amount of stuff he was guilty for. The interesting thing is I did see people that were always on the side of Megan and very anti-Torre saying that they thought 10 years was a bit of a stretch for this crime.

And when you do break down what he's guilty for, I don't really know if it is. Assault with a deadly weapon of someone being shot, six years, I think is actually pretty reasonable. And then you factor in him having an illegal gun in Beverly Hills. that carried, I believe, four. Maybe you could argue that one. I'm more familiar with New York laws, and if you just have a gun in New York, you're sitting down for three years regardless.

So I'm sure Cali is very similar to that, specifically L.A. County. You're going to see, Beverly Hills, like, exceptionally strong. I mean, there's a reason O.J. used a knife and not a gun. I'm sure it's, like, drastically. Allegedly. Oh, man. Terrifying to have an illegal out there.

He was found not guilty. Yeah, my apology. See, now you're doing that thing again. I apologize. I trust the justice system at all times. I should have known. Okay. But do you think 10 years is too much?

10 years for, and this is how Twitter was painting it, so you know it's true. She was twerking the next day, so she couldn't have been that hurt. How does that carry 10 years? She didn't get shot in the stomach. She didn't have to go to surgery. And this is what they were painting. It matters where you get shot at? To some degree.

Not to what Twitter is saying, but yes, I think, where you get shot matters. If you shoot me in the neck or shoot me in the big toe, I think there is a difference. There's a very simple way that we all can get past this. I do believe in the 10 years. I just want to make that clear. I think 10 is a fair. That's fine.

But it's simple as this because a lot of people online voicing their opinions. You have a daughter now. Yes. If your daughter, if Megan is your daughter. I don't need this daughter scenario. I don't think women should be shot with or without having a daughter. But this is the thing, a lot of people that are online is because they have no relations to anybody involved in the situation.

They may not have any women in their lives that they love or care about, but they have a platform. Well, they think they have a platform to voice his opinions about a woman being shot and thinking she's lying. Oh, it was only a shrapnel in her foot. Yeah. He didn't mean to shoot her. Whatever it is, right?

My thing is just, let's keep it simple. If this is your mother, your sister, your daughter, how would you feel about watching the world now try to blame your daughter and say, oh, she's wrong in this. She's lying in this. Like, people just need to think about that for a moment before they voice these opinions about people that don't care about them.

Tori Meg will never pay any of your bills. They don't give a fuck. Like, that's none of their business. But just think about it on a more personal level. If this is somebody that you love and you care about, how would you feel watching the world now try to turn the victim into the one that is the monster in this situation? And I just thought that that was unfair to her

because the end of the day, no matter what you think happened that night, no matter what you think, who you think did it, the one thing that's a fact is that a woman was shot. Where do you stand on the theory that is now going around

that Tori Lane stood tall during the trial and did not snitch on who actually shot Megan? Couldn't stand that tall. And that he is like the realest street dude that's ever existed. Well, people are stupid. People, and we know that.

People are just not smart. But, you know, I think that Tori would have fared better if he would have just, copped out from the very beginning. I think so, too. Even with the alcoholic childhood trauma thing that his defense tried to put on at the end, like he's not guilty, but if he is guilty, it's because of childhood trauma.

Yeah. If he would have just- Crazy shit in the world. If he would have just came clean in the beginning, I don't know if Tori's getting more than three to five years. Right. If he says, yo, I did it. I have an alcohol problem.

This happened because I blacked out on too much Hennessy. I had an illegal firearm. I'll sit down for that. I'll sit down for the assault, but it's based off these things. Yeah. I think a lot of those character witness letters that he got from everyone would have fared better rather than the arrogance he had through this entire thing. And that was one of the things that I think the judge and everybody was paying attention

to was just his attitude around the whole situation. Because, you know, if I was in a situation and I didn't shoot, I didn't shoot this woman, there's no way. I'm right on the stand. Yeah, there's no way I'm not taking the stand. There's no way. Like snitching all that shit, whatever. Like, there's no way if I didn't shoot a woman.

And she's telling the world that I shot her. There's no way if I didn't do it, I'm not telling the world like, no, I never did that. I would have been put in contempt during that trial every single day. Because I'd be like, hey, guys, just let everyone know. I did not. Yeah, like, I just, it's just that simple, man. They would, I think his team was trying to play the role of they have to prove beyond a reasonable doubt. They had let them prove you did it.

But, I mean, at this, at the, they didn't. need to have you on camera. They don't need to have you on IG Live doing it to say you're guilty. If they have enough evidence, the state of California, you felt like they had enough evidence to prove that or convict him of this crime. And that's all they need at the end of the day. And for you to sit back now and say, oh, you know, alcohol, trauma, and we bonded together. I thought that was a little nuts for him to say that in direction to Meg after all of this. Like, now you want to say you still care about her. That was just, to me, I was like, I don't know if I would have went that route, especially if I didn't do it. If I didn't do it, there's no

way I'm saying, yo, I still care about you. I'm about to do 10 years for something I didn't do, and I'm saying I still care about you. There's no way I'm saying that. That's big, big narcissism. Yeah, that just doesn't make any fucking sense to me. Like, I would never sit on standing, like, you know what? Although I didn't do this and I'm about to two 10 years because I didn't, I still care about you. And like, if you go through the trajectory of the PR shitty tried to pull behind the scenes, the stuff he was rapping about within their private relationship on record, the things he was saying on Twitter, him popping up at that show, even though he had a restraining order, showing up with a baby, we knew what he was doing with that. You care about this person?

Yeah, no. Let's take out the shooting. You care about this person? No, it was just, you know, I think that it was just clear cut. The state of California just wanted to get this over with and move on. And they did that in handing down a 10-year sentence. So, you know, I know a lot of his fans are disappointed and upset. But, you know, it is what it is.

hopefully like I said, Megan and her family feel like justice was served and now that they can heal and move forward with their lives. Yeah, and just a prime case of terrible news outlets within the hip hop culture. Because if you read the actual transcripts from court and the actual evidence, it's the complete opposite of what the quote unquote news outlets have been pumping in defense of Tory. Like even down to the gunpowder, the theory. like if you look in the court documents it's completely untrue right this whole he had no the dsr shit on him right if you really go and look at the case everything that's been said on clubhouse twitter twitch that's court ig that's court of public opinion like no but they're saying it as if it's fact yeah but these people are looked at as like valid news sources within hip-hop who

clubhouse clubhouse valid right people on their phones just yelling um down to IG blogs it's just so funny if you really read what happened in court and the real evidence. Like, oh, the witness changed the story? No, he didn't. No. He never said that Tori didn't shoot. It didn't never happen. Again, that was like, how could he get on the stand and say that? Because that's been his story the whole time. You just listen to someone on Clubhouse that said otherwise. It's just again, court of public opinion, doesn't matter. Case is done. It's over with. And again, hopefully Meg is at peace with this and is now moving forward with their life. Some more crazy news that came out over the last couple of days. Edin's been dying to get to this. He broke

this in the chat. Eddick, what the fuck? Yeah, I know. This is your show. Well, I brought her up on a Patreon a couple weeks ago. No, no, that's not what I'm talking about. Baby Gron. I'm talking about. Eddn brought this into the group chat yesterday. That is true. Oh, yeah. Sure. That is a fact. I've been dying to talk about it. Those are two different things. I'll be honest. I did not know much about this girl. I think last year, you guys, like, gave me the backstory. What was it that happened with her a few months ago?

We were talking about Baby Gronk. I'm saying before Baby Gronk, we We're discussing this little girl and how maybe her brother was the one that was... Context. Lill Tate. Lill Tate. Yeah. Lill Tay. I, like, vaguely remember her being online.

Lil Tay was like 2017. She was bubbling at the same rate at an influencer level that like Lil Pump XX, X, X, X, X, X. She was the adjacent of that, but in the influencer world. Okay. Where we were seeing like the craziest SoundCloud generation of rappers. She was like the SoundCloud influencer. she was 14, well, at the time, she was like 9, 9 years old,

8, 9 years old. I don't want to disrespect the possible dead, but I'm definitely not going to let you disrespect the real dead. She is not in the same sentence as, uh, I'm just saying she was friends with it. Like she was coming up. One was a extremely talented musician.

All right. We're not talking about talent. I'm talking about the era in which her, I like her influencing came about. Yeah. So she was the Drewski to Drake, Drake's Drusky. That was.

Actually, yeah. Tentacion. Guys. Yeah. God damn it. That was. I don't, well,

we don't know. No, he's not. No, no, no. His was is meaning that he's not. It's confirmed. She's not dead. Okay.

I'm thinking you misconduct, you're misunderstanding what he said what his was meaning. He was saying was at that time when she was influencing. Not was like she's no longer here. That's not what is. I know. But, yeah,

so they posted from, it was, was it her account? It's a random account. That her parents run. So her account that her parents run. They posted it. It is with a heavy heart that we share the devastating.

that we share the devastating news of our beloved Claire Sutton and tragic passing. We have no words expressed on bearable loss and indescribable pain. So they posted this and said that her and her brother had passed. Yes. Ed didn't put this in the chat

and everybody was like, oh shit, we were just talking about this girl a few weeks ago. That's crazy that her and her brother passed. Okay, cool. And then somebody had posted, I guess another influence of somebody had posted that they were there at the scene and actually witnessed the car accident happened. Even

Then he then went on his platform and said he didn't post that comment. That was somebody that, I guess, runs his account or somebody posted that comment. He was saying he was not there. He did not see a car accident. So everybody was like, okay, that's weird. And then I guess Claire's brother or somebody posted something saying that they are not dead and that their parents are running the account and their parents put that story out. It says it was from an account Tremani.

To be clear, I am not dead. I don't have access anymore to the Little Tate Instagram account. My sister and I were winning our case. It was just a couple of days before we got it all back, all her social media, and come out about the truth. Me and Taya are not dead. We don't got access to the account. Our parents wants us gone off the internet, but we will not go away. This is our new account for now.

They are spreading misinformation. We are not dead. They're the only ones that got access to the account. Do not believe it. our parents took everything and they abused Tay hard. All we ask is to share this post to your story and file us to count more updates in a couple hours now. Are we allowed to speculate on this entire thing? Sure.

Is that offensive? It's not, bro. As long as she's alive. Yeah. Well, we're speaking. Does this seem like a plot from the brother all along? I'm not saying they have good parenting just based off what was happening to begin with. But it seems like the brother has been the mastermind of this entire thing.

We know his girl doesn't even talk like that. He's trying to get her to talk that way. act this way posting everything. This feels like a plot from the brother to try to get back into the light. Well, he's no angel either, but I do think, and it's been mentioned from Tay,

that, yeah, the parents were abusive. I don't know, abusive, how, in which way, but they've never had a relationship with the family, but yeah, he's not a fucking same. I felt the brother had some form of abuse to his little sister at that point. You can't just keep having your sister

do the shit on the internet. She's like 10. She's 14 now. Okay, at the time, 2017, she was 11. She was like, I think, nine when the account started. That's insane. Yeah. All right, well, they got reports from the police, and they said that they don't have no record of any crash, any fatalities.

Yeah. Anybody's with these names on record. There's no investigation going on with any of these names. So we do, that's from the police department. Now, this feels like they watched that episode of Dave where Dave dies, but doesn't really die. Spoiler. Damn Roy.

Takes over. No, this feels like... This is a plot. This feels like Carly Russell all over again. My spider sense is a tingling. Is there something? Follow this account and post on your story? That right there says, all right, we're trying to, why are you trying to get so many people

to follow this? Like, what are you trying to push? What are you trying to, what are you doing now? Obviously trying to get a little Tate to make a comeback, but I just feel like why she was a viral star in 2000. Like, why are we doing this? She was dope. Because I'm not going to say that the people that.

run the viral people are the smartest in the world, they have some intelligence on how to maneuver the internet for a moment. That moment is passed. So I think because he does not really give a fuck about his sister or her well-being, let's make up this plot because we know this will work. Let's get a bunch of RIPs and then she comes back. She'll be on no jumper tomorrow. Listen.

Where she wouldn't have been before. She is going to do a whole press run now of dying. They're going to run through. Abuse is now trendy. They're going to go through this. entire thing that they've been abused. The brother is mastermining this entire thing. He's going to be sitting on the interviews like he's going to become a star now too. This was a plot to get back into light. I get it. I know we're not allowed to say it because it's too soon. No, it's confirmed

now. But watch. Okay. So I'm saying the abuse from the parents and the brother saying they were abused and that shit. Her brother has, we've seen him abuse his sister. Listen, man, I get it. I know we're in the era where, you know, people do anything for cloud. They tongue kiss, they own brothers. Yep. Well, they love each other. You know, they, they, they, they, they fake their deaths. They fake their, their kidnappings and seeing babies on the sides of highways.

Listen, I know nothing. We've seen, Jesse Smolet fake getting brutally attacked by. Yeah, but his was cool. That really happened. His was cool. That really happened. Yeah, at least he executed. I mean, it's just.

He committed. So I understand, but. My thing is, where does it, faking your death is something that, faking you and your little sister's death. Yeah. Under the age of facing. Now, if they're saying these are the parents that are posting this that put that out,

then okay, understandably so that they can't control that. So she just went on TMZ and said, obviously confirmed that she's not dead, and said that her Instagram was compromised by a third party and used to spread the jarring misinformation. What 14-year-old uses the word third-party and jarring? I mean, obviously, that's a statement. Come on.

Oh, no, she's kind of bright. She's still not. No, she knows how to mimic the things that are given her. Yeah, she's still not. She's still not saying jarring, though. That's not happening. Jarring? I was saying jarring at 14.

And look how you turned out. Yeah. Such a family. Look at you. Such a pansy. But anyway, so she is alive. So thankfully, she's not dead. Her and her brother are not dead.

I mean, this is not my world. I don't really care about this little girl like that. Hey, if you got a comeback, you're more than welcome to come on here. No. We'll speak to you. No. Who are you speaking for? Yeah.

She's not welcome to come home. The room. If you want to invite her to your spot. to talk to her. To play backgammy. Because she's not welcome, unless this is really true, which I fully believe this is true.

Well, she can't come here if it's true. No, not that she's dead, that this is that, oh, but we could go to her. That the parents fake killed their kids and that they're just trying to get back to their family.

Like, this is a fucking plot from her older brother. Yeah. Can we fake kill Julian? Do you think it would like take us to that next level? I just want to say that Demaris is clearly plotting murder here.

I said fake is dead. I just think it'd be a little mean because Julian would read the comments and some of them might be positive. And I don't want him to see that. They were like, thank God. No, that's a fact. Yeah. You can't fake kill Julian though.

Why not? Because he'll blow the cover. He'll be, he'll post him playing backgammon. He'll be a fucking love low house already. Yeah. It won't even work. You don't know how to just like sit in the house and not be on any social media. I'm too active. Yeah.

Now, we can do it to Rory. Also, let's go for the headline. If they, we'd kill me, they'd be like, who's that? Who's that? Gives a fuck. Rory. I think I'd still end that who gives a fuck

I appreciate those are giving me flowers right The two of you The two of you would be the namesake That we would have to kill They would probably celebrate if I got killed If you got killed That's not true

That's not true Killed this Trump vote nash And I never even voted for the guy Because you can't vote Who me? Because you're a felon Yeah you're a felon Why are you put that on my jacket

I'm not a felony I don't have any felony No I think I think I lived too long For it to be like A good death There's enough bad shit on record of me saying

that I don't think I'd get like you know the fourth paragraph in obituaries age and dog years you know that look at him. Look at him I'm sorry but if this happened maybe two years into podcasting yes I think I would get that whole show and like

oh he would have been the best this is great I've lived too long I would have the third paragraph in the obituary of like he did this but however he did say all this bullshit he missed his fake death window you should have fake died right before your album came out. Yeah. Oh. Damn it. Platinum. Damn, next

one. Next one. Next one. Instead I gave, instead I gave life. All right. What's next on the docket? That was, and then you looked me in my eyes when you said that. I don't like people say, I also did this. Yeah. What is that? I did this too. I think every pansy in life has did this at one point. You're just trying to kill. I'm just trying to live.

You didn't think of it that way, did you? So, yes, thankfully Little Taye and her brother are alive and well, hopefully the world is a better place because of it. Well, I don't know about that. Well, whatever they are. Prayers for that, that little girl. She's 14. Yeah. She needs help.

Yeah, get away from that family. I hope he makes a comeback, but like in a positive way. Yeah. What, like, what do you think? Yeah. What do you think the comeback is? Like, she does like better help ads. I don't know.

I mean, we haven't seen very many viral stars. Well, no. Terry O's working out now. He looks like he's doing one. In football? Yeah. That other girl that Mike Karen signed, her music stinks. That was on Dr. Phil.

Oh, bad baby. I mean, she's doing fine financially. We saw her in London. We did see her in London. We did. Y'all saw a bad baby in London? Yeah. After they did.

The sneaker shop, she was next. Yeah. She didn't even say how to us. No. Yeah. She doesn't know. Naturally. She's high to Atlantic.

That's my best family. They killed Atlantic for that. He was way too excited to say that. What's wrong with you? For your reaction. And it took me, like, he had to explain who that was to me for a good 10 seconds. You know, a long 10 seconds is? Yeah.

When there's like a celebrity right there, I'm like, who the fuck? Like, Dr. Phil. I was like, oh, yeah. All you have to say, it. catch me outside. How about it? No, if Rory doesn't know what they are. Yeah. Yeah. I think she's a liar too. What did she say? A hundred million on only fans in the first month or something to.

She was not lying. That doesn't even match our currency exchange right now. You can't make a hundred million in a month. I don't think she made a hundred million. I think you're hating. And you pocket watching. She wasn't wearing any clothes. I got a pocket watch. Yeah, but I wasn't wearing clothes in London. Okay, you're G-string watching. I didn't subscribe, but

did she even have that on? What are what shoes? Yes. What? Excuse me? $100 million is to wear a G string. Never mind. Mental illness is real. 50 Cent brought out, well, 50 Cent is on his final lap tour. I've been seeing some video and some footage from the tour.

It seems like people are going out and enjoying it. He was in the Barclay Center a day before yesterday, yesterday, last night. Wednesday night. So he brought out some people, Jay Cole, J. Cole, Jada Kiss, A, Boogie, the Baby. He brought a few people out to perform. in Brooklyn but obviously the biggest name that came out was Jake Cole

and that was dope I had FOMO for this show I should have just bought a ticket Yeah I should have just went that route Because there wasn't really anyone I could hit Because 50 is enemies with every last person That was ever worked for G-Unit

Besides Tony Yeo So I mean going that angle Wasn't going to work I should have just bought a regular ticket Got a fake bulletproof vest Sat in Section 300 and enjoyed my time. Did you, but did you even know the show was happening?

I didn't even know the show was happening until it was hitting social media. He sold out, I think, every show since. Oh, no, I mean, I believe 50's going to sell out shows. It's been a while since you've been on stage and obviously get Richard Dodd trying, being the classic that it is, people want to see that. But I just didn't know that the show was happening until I saw people at the show. But Jay Cole came out. He did this thing.

And then he said, he said something that I kind of, I kind of looked at the phone and was like, Jermaine. was dope that 50 brought you out. A lot of people in this arena, you know, the energy was, was, was, was, was, was, was, was, was, was, was, was, was, was, was, was, was, was, was, on his list, there's 50 cent Curtis Jackson. Yes. And then there's Michael Jackson right after 50. Yeah. Wait, he said that too. Yes, he said that. Well, I think he was referring to, get Richard I trying being over thriller. I don't think he was saying in all of music. Well, I, right. Well, let's really talk about it. Let me stop you right there. Fine. Let's say he was

saying get richard die trying. it's a better album than thriller. And before you start, don't get mad that he took a page out of your man's book. Who's your man? This is what Drake does anytime he's on stage with somebody. They become the greatest artists of all times. Drake has never been on stage and put any album ahead of thriller. He had Yadi on stage and was like, yo, you're the new Tupac.

He has never put any album ahead of Thriller. You did put Yadi over Tupac. He is any person he goes on stage with, he gives the longest birthday speech that they are the greatest artist of all times. That's great. And he is humbled to be there. Show me where Drake. And then Drake pays 20 hits after that.

Show me he's better than the artist. Show me where Drake has said, yo, your album is ahead of thriller. Okay. I mean, saying Yaddy is the new Tupac was up there. No, it's not. And he didn't say that. That's kind of bad.

Not even close. He never said that. Listen, I love Get Richard Dodd-Trying. It's better than Thrace. Classic album. But for anybody to say that Get Richard Dodd-Tryan is a better album than Thriller. Can you pull the list of Julian? Well, let's pull up a track.

We don't need to pull up a track. I think we do. Let's do it. No, we do not. Because I'm on cold side. Stop it. No, you're not. I'm 100% on cold side. No, you're not.

You know you're not. Get Richard Doddry. Pete beats Baby Be Mine. Listen, get Richard Doddry. You're not. Because it's the worst song on Thriller. And that's saying a lot because it's a better song than most songs that ever created after that. That's true.

But what I'm saying is, I love 50. Get Richard Dodd-Tryin, instant classic. As soon as we heard it was like, this album is fucking phenomenal. Yeah. But to say it's better than Thriller is blasphemy. Okay. Let's go. Right out the gate.

50's up 1-0. How? No, he's not. Why? What up gangster? What-up gangster? Versus, want to be starting something? No.

50s up one-nothing. Want to be starting something? That's crazy for that one. See, this is why we shouldn't let white people in hip-hop. Yeah. That's crazy. We got to start closing the doors. Yeah, we got to start gaites.

Close the door. Bike head Vidalado, so it's fine. Yo, are you sick? What are you going with you? No, you're crazy for that one. Listen, I love get rid of the dog. Call me crazy. I think he's up to nothing because I think patiently waiting beats Baby Bima.

First of all. And you have a case versus many men versus the girl is mine with Paul McCartney. Yo, all right, Roy, you, I'm not going to front. I understand you might come out the gate three of. I understand you have a podcast. Listen, man, I understand. And not only that. I got about the striking.

I understand that, but I also understand mental illnesses. And rampant in our community. And by the way, Thriller wins. But if there has to be a song to go up against Thriller, in the club versus Thriller, is a pretty good matchup. You're crazy. Stop. You're saying anything. What the hell are you talking about?

If any song from Giveridge that I try and would go against Thriller, it would be in the club. That's a good matchup. I feel like you gotten worse since the new therapist. I don't know. Yo, mental illness. We got it. We got it. Fine.

Fine. Beat it beats high all the time. You guys win there. Billy Jean beats it if I can't. Human nature versus Bloodhound. I don't know. You're going to have to convince me. P.I.

Young Bunk might have done it. P. P. P. That's hilarious. That's funny that those line up. It's a great matchup. Yeah.

That's a good matchup. They're both. They're both acrony. I hate P-I-N-P. I hated that record. They're both talking about pretty young things as well. I just hated P-I-NP when it came out and I hated it now. What you're heard about?

I didn't. That record is the off tone with that. And you want me to sing it for real right now? Yeah. And after that, like, 50 cleans up because there's no more songs left. Yeah, that 50? I mean. 21 questions versus nothing?

21 questions went. 50 cleans up. Michael Jackson has a hoodie on. It just, listen, I get it. I understand. Jay Cole was just, you know, it was a high moment for him. I'm pretty sure he said that like, because he got excited. No, I mean, that's what happened sometimes

When you're on stage with an artist that you looked up to And whose album was a classic Is a classic When Jay Cole was I mean, Jake Cole was really young when that album came out But I'm sure it meant something to him So to be on stage and just have that energy And 50 there

Sometimes you don't know what to say in that moment So you just start saying anything That's a wild shit to say You could have just said You could have just said it was like the greatest hip hop album And everyone had been like, that's cool You could have just say your 50 We love you, we salute you

Give Richard Die Die Trying classic album. Thank you for that. Brooklyn, New York. Good night. To say, yo, Curtis Jackson and then Michael Jackson, I was like, yo, wait a minute, man. What are we doing right now? All right. We're going to pull the room just because you guys are trying to make me sound crazy. What do you guys listen to more? Many men or The Girl is Mine. The Girl is Mine. No, you don't. Yes, I do. I definitely listen to Many, man. Yes, I don't. I mean, but we're also babies of the fit. Like, that's our, we grew up on that. 2000s. 2000s. 2003. Let me see your iTunes

It says the date That you played the last song, right? Oh, I don't know When was the last time you heard Michael and Paul go at it? Ew. And Cole, when I left. Like, come on.

But Michael, she's mine, Michael. Listen, man, I get it, man. That shit is. It's ass compared to 50 getting shot nine times. I understand Jay Cole. I get it. He's going at Prem in that shit. You think I care about Paul McCartney?

But that was a little crazy for Jay Cole to say that. A little. That was, you're excited. I don't get excited. probably off that Class Azole. Yeah, he was definitely lit. I don't care what you off. You're never putting Curtis Jackson ahead of Michael Jackson all time.

What are you talking about? That's all in the family. And we love 50. Like, I'm mad I didn't know about the show. I wouldn't win. There's one tonight. There's one tonight. Oh, shit.

I might go on stub up. Floor seats are like 1,500. Why would he get $1,500? Which money did I have? Yeah. Said it like that's light. I'm not paying $15. I'm going to buy scalper's tickets for the highest section.

Yeah, I'm not paying $1,500 to see $200? $200? Oh, would you go? Yeah. Like to the show. You guys are going to hang out? I would go by myself. That's how much I love 50.

Can two men who are wearing matching shirts go see 50 cent? This wasn't planned. And for the first time, I'm wearing Supreme in all isn't. That's crazy. I don't know if two men can go to a 50 show together. Oh, my God. That entire arena is mad. But they can go to a Michael Jackson show.

That's why I wouldn't. Who? Two men. Well, two men have gone to Michael Jackson's show, but we know what, you know. All right. I feel like going with a girl to the 50 cent show would be like, Weirder. Weirder.

The girl. Yeah, I wouldn't trust her. You wouldn't trust her? There's nothing wrong with the fellas getting together. If we wore matching bulletproof vests, then we're going a bit too far at this age. Yeah, that's a little crazy. With durags? And now we can't do that.

No, with the unit white. Yeah, you can't. The temperature's fine. Well, we're going to talk about how the G unit merch was very ugly. Was it? It was awful. You wanted a pair G unit sweat so you could have G unit to cross your ass. No, I had those.

I'm talking about for the men. Oh, for the men? I'm talking about those muscle shirts were. hideous. The tank tops? Tank tops were bad. The Reeboks weren't terrible. Don't do that. They were pretty bad. They weren't awful. They were pretty bad. So for the first time in VMA's history, Rory, all of the

nominees for Artists of the Year are women. How do you feel about that? I think it's great. It's a pretty good list. If it's accurate. Yeah, Beyonce, Doja Cat, Carol G., Nikki Minaj, Shakira, and Taylor Swift. All right, I don't want to sound blasphemous here because I do love Shakira. Has she done enough in the last 365 days to be artist of the year? What she put out? As a nominee?

She put out tracks. Tracks? Did she put an album out? Yeah. I feel like Steve Lacey has done more than Shakira in the last 365 days. I'm not trying to make this a man thing. I'm just, I don't know if Shakira has hit that pinnacle for the last year. Maybe you're on her fan base.

Did you sign up to her mailing list? I do not sign up for her mailing list. Her album came out House of Shakira on May 19th. That was the album. All right, yeah, that feels that feels, that feels industrious to me. That's Shakira. You're not hearing no Shakira out of the industries? No.

Where do you go? Where do you go to your time? I go to the Heights all the time when you talk about. Yeah. The Heights. Yeah. That's racist. Is that not where Spanish people live?

Yeah, but I mean, I don't know if they're going to be playing Shakira. They'll be playing Karo G for sure. I mean, the whites love Shakira too, though. Well, people are on, no, people are on Beyonce's ass, too, because Beyonce released, because just because this is the VMAs and Beyonce hasn't released the VMAs. And Beyonce hasn't released the VMAs. video in years. There were no music videos for her last.

Yeah, but that's not the category she's in. Yeah, but I see what they're saying. With the VMAs, artists of the year should be within the visual space. Yeah. I know that's not how it goes with VMAs anymore because they're so popularized to other awards, but it should be just with visuals, no? What artists have the best visuals? Yeah, but it's hard to have a award show just about videos because it's like,

how many awards can you chop a like best video, then what? Best coloring, best lighting. I mean, they have those categories. They just don't put them on TV. But Shakira, I think, makes sense an artist of the year if you're doing visuals. The stuff she put out, the minimal stuff she put out was great visually. She put out an album. Well, I mean, you know how these things go now.

Everything is about numbers. They're probably looking at her YouTube numbers and streaming. I'm pretty sure Shakira streams well. And the hopes that they'll be there at the awards. And not even. But that too. Yeah. How much did Doja put out within the timeline that should be?

Two videos. Two videos? Did both those videos make it? within this timeline? Or one video. Oh, no. And that's what... They're putting her new stuff in there.

And I'm like, that's not fair. See, that's why I don't like with that shit. I'm TV. I'll be honest. It is a TV. It is a... Nicky or Taylor Swift, to me, is the only two on this list that really put out a lot visually.

Who in Taylor Swift? What has... Cizzers is not artist. Oh, not in the video. Sorry, I'm not in the video still. Cizzle should definitely be artist. Actually, yeah, Cissor should... I don't know much about Carol.

Like, she was doing. But she's not beat. Taylor Swift. Just, hey, let's... I believe it. She's not being Taylor Swift, guys. Come on. Yeah, but I mean, she could still be in the...

She can still be nominated. Oh, what? I'm not saying she has to win. Oh, yeah, for sure. No, Cesar should be... Cizzer should be nominated 1,000%. Yeah. Like, she was doing phenomenal shit this year.

Amazing tour. The production on the tour was amazing. The album was amazing. The streaming number she did. Number one for how many weeks? Yeah. How is she not... Yeah, that's actually kind of interesting.

Well, I'm not saying she has to win it, but she should be nominated at least. Like, I don't... Does MTV even still play videos? No, no. Also, none of them might not beat out Carol G. I would, we need the YouTube wars before we need MTV. Yeah, what is, what is MTV doing?

Like, what is on MTV now? I don't, uh, ridiculousness. I was going to say ridiculous on MTV. It's for 24 hours straight. I love ridiculous. 16 and pregnancy. So do I. 16 in pregnancy back.

Is this the whole thing? No, I think they're playing reruns. Oh, wow. How do you think the girls? So wait, there are no videos being played on MTV. No, Mom. They have, like, they have these sub-MTV shows. I don't know. I'm asking you a question.

They haven't played music video. in like 10 years. Is 16 and pregnant still running? No. Not new episodes? No. Repeats.

How do you think the 16 and pregnant girls felt when my super sweet 16 followed their show? That's pretty funny. Like, hey, let me watch myself on TV and then you saw another 16 year old

how she was living. They're showing a lot of catfish. It's just like unfortunate circumstances, nevitism. Yeah, pretty much. That's not crazy to y'all. This is what the programming is usually.

It's catfish, then it's Jersey Shore, family vacation. Great show. Oh, they are back. And then ridiculous. is this. That's really all it is. On MTV? The Jersey Shorthy, it's new, though. That's new.

What about MTV, too? Great question. Guess what? No, they have like MTV jams now. Other sub channels and play shows. They show a lot of movies. VH1Sole. Like, Viacom has just gave a bunch of sub-channels that play music. Yeah. So then it might be time to get rid of the VMAs as a whole then.

You know, that's an interesting question, isn't it? If y'all not even playing videos on it on it looks at MTV for music. Well, award shows are going to get even more political than they already were. We already knew it was a industry thing and a lot of favors involved. But with the numbers dropping so significantly that people are not watching, you have to just put the biggest names for people to even think about watching. Like, Beyonce may not show up, but they need to put Beyonce's name 15 times in the promo so people will watch.

Yeah. Because no one was watching before. Do we think that Beyonce shows up? No. Do we think Doja Cat shows up? No. Do we think Carol G shows up? Yes.

Why? Because this would be her first look. look. For VMAs, yeah. Nikki shows up. Nikki only shows up after they tell her if she won or not. Shakira shows up. And they ban parties.

Shakira showing up. Taylor Swift shows up. I don't know. I think she's on tour. That's like her alma mater. That's her high school. Like, yeah. Her career was made when Kanye took the award away.

They should do that again. No. No. Actually not. Her career was not made when that happened. Let's not do that. It made it better. It helped.

It helped. Her career was pretty. But she was doing fine. She won. She won the award. She won over single ladies. She was doing fine. Let me not say that.

Life was okay for Taylor Swift at that moment. Like Kanye didn't make or break her. We know that. But that was definitely, that moment is an iconic moment. Her beating single ladies is fucking hilarious. I don't think we'd ever think about her beating single ladies unless Kanye did that. In that moment,

we were like, oh, that's weird. But we would have moved on the next day. I just love like, Beyonce's face during that whole thing was just like. She wanted to crawl out of her skin and die. And she was like, no, no, no, please don't. Get down, get off the stage, Kanye, please. But we understood what Kanye was saying.

We understood why he was saying it because he had that bottle on his hand. But, you know. Well, it lacks moments. Like, even little mama walking on stage that year. So much happened that year. But award shows lacked those moments. The Grammys was kind of cool

when they were going into the crowd and shit. They need to just make more moments out of the shit. Instead of being like, well, who streamed the most? Let's put their name on the promo. Like, let's give them the award. We don't never talk about how much balls. it took for Little Mama to do that. Much more than Kanye.

Yo. Yeah. Did we confirm she was never on drugs? What? Little Mama? I don't think she was on drugs. I don't think she was on drugs. I'm wild for thinking she might have been, she could be sober during that moment.

I don't, I don't, well, sober on what, alcohol? Like, sober on, like she was drinking maybe. Beyonce tried to stop Little Mama more than Kanye. Yeah, look at that. I just, I just want to know. Beyonce is a class act because she never stopped smiling in these moments. Like, it's always a smile with the nervousness. I mean, her little sister and her husband got in a full on brawl in an elevator and she walked out like, hey.

So yeah. That took a lot of fucking balls for little mama. And then standing at the end, the stance right there, like stepping into it. Yo, that takes a lot of. Look at Jay. Just great body positioned by Jay. And then little mama walking around like, like, yeah, like, we just killed that. Did you see the interview she did post this to explain like what was.

happening in the moment. Is it the one on the breakfast club with the railway? No, no, no, no. It's some really weird, like, very low production type of interview. But she thought at the time when she walked on stage and there's like the clip when Jay is like nodding his head at her, like in confusion, the rest of the world we all knew. Yeah. She was like, no, I thought he was telling me like, oh, you up here, you doing it.

That's a quote. Yeah, no. Like, no, no, no, Jay was saying get the fuck off the stage. Right here. He even tapped on her leg like, like I, full. Little girl. Like, disappeared. And Little Mama at that point thought like, oh, Jay is saying, are you up here doing it with us?

No, this really shows, this really shows the amount of how people have no self-awareness. They have no social, like, awareness of cues, of social, like anything. That takes, yo, I don't think you'll understand. No, that's crazy. That's Jay-Z and Alicia Keys performing the number one song. Yeah. Songs. That they shot in Yankee Stadium first.

You have nothing to do with this record or this song. And you're from New York. On stage? You play the keys. Yo, that takes a different type of like something in you to be like, yeah, I'm about to walk on stage. That's insane. Audacity was like... Ironic moment, though.

Yeah, look at this. Because you got to think about what it took for her to do that. But looking back, it's like, whoa. There was like bigger names that could have walked on there and it would have been like, okay. Who would have been more acceptable? Well, she was saying that... Like if Kanye walked a bit at that. moment.

No. That would have been weird too. But it wouldn't have been, it wouldn't have been as weird as little mom. I promise you wouldn't have been as weird as little mom. Nobody would have been as weird. But this is what I'm saying. I even though she was there.

For little mama to sit and feel like, yo, this is my time. I'm about to walk up there. She was saying. And then Beyonce grabs you like, no. And you pull away. You tell me, get off me.

That's what I'm saying. You was on a different type of mission that night. She did. She broke the tackle. That was kind of nice. Look at her. Scramble out the pocket. Yeah,

That's like... That's why I think it was drugs. I'm not going to hold you. That's why I think it was drugs. Because when Beyonce straight grabbed you and she said, yo, B, get... Like, nah. No, that's not drugs. I know what that is.

What is it? That's Vaca. Oh. Vaca. Vaca definitely gives you confidence like that. Vaca, only Vaca because you're not sloppy. Very aware. But you're just numb.

Like, you don't feel the, you don't feel like, no, I shouldn't do this. Your whole body is numb. Your head is numb. I'm on that stage right now. What was security doing in 2009 in the VMAs? They weren't. You think after the Ye thing, maybe they'd,

put at least one guard by the steps. Nah. An hour later, little mama hopped right on stage. Yeah, this was, this was, no, no, no, same year,

but this happened after the Taylor Swift thing? Yeah, this was how they closed the show. Okay. Let me go to the climax show. Yeah, that was,

that was, whof, that took a lot. But she said, you know, she's in New Yorker and she started to field a song, she thought more people were going to follow her. She thought people were storming the field

after the win, except she was just the naked guy that run. Yeah. That was, yeah, that just wasn't smart. was cocaine. I'm sticking with it was cocaine. No, no, no, no. It wasn't cocaine. I don't care. I don't want to put it out on her jacket,

but that's, that's low-key behavior. That's someone off the coke was. Is it? That's cocaine. You know, Kanye's was cocaine behavior. No. That's arrogance and Hennessy. That's that yak. Yeah, but that's cocaine and yak. Yeah, but that's, okay, yeah, but that's bad sober when he said on that teleprompter and said, George Bush does not care about black people. Kanye doesn't need money. Yeah, but he was supposed to be on a teleprompter. He was supposed to be on camera at that moment. So whatever he says, it's like, all right, whatever. He was, he was, he was was not supposed to be on stage to Taylor Swift.

It's a totally different thing. But you know what? We don't talk. If Little Mama doesn't go up there, do we even talk? Do we ever remember that performance? Yes. Yes. Yes, we do.

It was the number one song that year. It was the biggest song that year. Do we right now in 2020 remember that performance unless somebody brings it up? Do we think about that performance? No, we're not. There's many of performances that happened. I don't think about every number one song performance.

Like, they come and go. But we remember Jayze and Alicia Keys at the VMAs without Little Mama on stage. You would have remember that. I think if someone pulled it up, I'd be like, oh, shit, I remember this. But I don't think it would be in my memory bank. Like, let me go watch that Alicia Keys. So we should be thanking Little Mama.

Yes. Okay, so thank you, Little Mama, for an iconic moment in VMA history. Thank you, Kanye as well for another iconic moment. And stay in award shows? Stay in award shows. Let's do it. They just need to make award shows open bargain. That's what it's missing.

Yeah, for sure. It's not the internet. It's not who they're giving the award to. Everyone needs. Award shows are very long. They need to open the bathroom so people can do cocaine, has to be open bar. Like, they can't be these sober award shows anymore. I don't know about cocaine at a war show, but whatever.

I mean, there's plenty of coke in there. Did the guy that does the small town record? Did he get nominated? For the VMAs? I would love to see that performance of the VMAs. Try this in a small down. No, but he does it like on 34. You know, remember they used to do the outdoor performances?

Oh, yeah. Like if he did that shit in Times Square, that'd be great. No, he got to do it in a small town, like, on location, like, in front of, like, the town hall. like Hackensack, New Jersey. Yeah, he got to do it. You know what they shoot it like two weeks before the VMA's air and then they like air it like right now, performance from them?

That's how they got to do. And then we got to call in the Montgomery people to go to wherever they're at and just... Actually, the Montgomery people should be security for the VMAs this year. Yeah, no one would get on stage. Yeah, no, nobody's getting on that stage. This month over here at New Roy and Mall,

we're doing a special series of episodes to celebrate 50 years of hip-hop. Mall, we wouldn't even be podcasting it wasn't for hip- I don't know if we would be born without it. We wouldn't be sitting here if it wasn't for hip hop, so it's extremely important to us to sit and take some time to really celebrate and reflect what hip hop is done for us for the last 50 years. But we couldn't have done that without our friends over at eBay. eBay knows how important it is to be real, Rory.

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Because, I mean, obviously we don't have that anymore where every borough dresses differently. Everybody dresses the same. Everyone's just the same thing. But at one point, everyone did dress differently depending on each borough. I'm going to say any borough that has. the hustlers because we all used to try to dress like the hustlers. Yeah. You all wanted to dress like the guys who would get money.

So, I mean, I lean more towards Brooklyn because we were to borrow that really went everywhere. You would see Brooklyn in the Bronx. You see it in Manhattan. You see it in Queens. I can't say Bronx and Manhattan came to Brooklyn like that. Queens came to Brooklyn like that. But you would see Brooklyn and everybody else's borough.

So I would say Brooklyn. Okay. And not because I'm from Brooklyn. I would say Brooklyn and very closely behind it, Manhattan. Yeah. Extremely close. I'd probably go Harlem and then Brooklyn. Harlem's not a Brooklyn.

Manhattan's a bro. So I say Manhattan's a bro. So I say man. But I would say it was like this for the whole time because when Harlem was the shit, like 35% of what was going on in Harlem was Brooklyn people being in Harlem. Yeah. I spent a lot of time. at all. I mean, until...

I'm a rooftop vet. So we came with the G&A wife beaters and then Queens took over the world. Nasty time. Very nice. Queens has had some nasty fashion. Like some nasty fashion. Like, yes. Like, once we got rid of the Adidas suits,

we just went rogue. We had no idea what we were wearing. That's a... I can be not biased. Yeah. We look nuts for a while. But Kith, Ame, all Queens. I think we've made a comeback. Yeah, y'all have...

Y'all have kind of closed the gap a little bit. It's absolutely. I agree with that. It's a little better now. Clark, what's your favorite sneak of all time? Why don't my Air Force once? What's your favorite rap album of all time? Rap album of all time.

It's probably a tie between like three, four. Okay. Reasonable doubt. Yes, I think it's a classic, but I'm so a part of it. It holds something. in here. Yeah. I get it.

Ready to die and, um, and life after death are like twins to me. Elmatic is crazy. Snoop Dog's first album is crazy. And America's most wanted. Mm. Shit, straight out of Compton's crazy to me, too. You know what I'm saying? But yeah, those, so it's like, I think that's six, maybe seven.

Probably six or seven. I think they're all on the same level. Do you still produce? Oh, yeah. Who do you, who would you, out of the newer? generation, a newer guys, who would you want

to produce an album for? If it was rap, rap, rap? Yeah. Lady London thug. Because he could rap.

For sure. He could rap. No, he could definitely rap. Cole. You and Cole never worked together? Nah. We talk all the time, but it's more like

a big brother, little brother situation. So it wasn't a, I'm going to go run to go. It was just, I just have unbelievable amounts of respect for his talent. His talent is some other thing. Conway. He's dirty. Simba, he raps.

Wow. Absolutely. He raps. Favorite new rappers for sure. Pusha. Even though he's not new, but like, you know, we're friends, but we haven't. But I feel like I want to. Jada.

I know he's not, you know, but fab. Like guys who I think can really, really rap, I would love to make records. Being a DJ producer, I feel like in the early days, they were a DJ first and then a producer. TiI would be great. Ti.

Okay. Yeah, you and Ti would do some great shit. I feel like starting out with the DJ producers, they were DJs first and then producers. I think now the DJs are producers first, DJ's second. When do you think that shift happened? Like, even from mustard to-

When DJs are getting paid real, real, a lot of money. When, when DJs started getting paid really good money, I think producers were like, hold up, I can do that. Yeah. And that's another revenue stream. Especially when you look at the big EDM DJs, the big EDM DJs, the big EDM DJs are big EDM DJs because they make records. And then when you go to the music.

a show they play their record exactly yeah so it's like you're getting a performance without having a performer you know what i mean so that's why they go see those DJs and pay that kind of money for um so now i think like guys who do the music that we do they're going so you mean i can go just go play my songs and i can get paid oh i'm gonna do that too yeah you know i would love it if they really learned how to actually play then it would be like awesome but um you know sometimes those things watered down the actual craft so i would love for them to be able to know how to play do you think the the quote unquote celebrity DJ that i feel like Vegas probably started with residencies has a lot to do with that well i think

the first and probably one of the best celebrity DJs ever was DJ AM and he was a pure DJ who was a DJ before a celebrity right but he's the first Celebrity. Yeah, for sure. He's the guy who made me look at what I was charging and go, oh, I got to change that. And what's crazy is, like, I used to help him back in the days. And then one day it just went crazy.

And I was just like, oh, I make good money. But I could make that much. Yeah. So, you know, but we saw him be a superstar as a DJ. You know what I'm saying? And that was everything. So to me, he's the first superstar DJ. Everybody else heard about the money.

And then they wanted to become that. And, you know, again, it watered down the gang. That was a quick clip of our celebration of 50 years of hip hop, sponsored by eBay. Subscribe and stay tuned to our YouTube for the full conversation. YouTube.com forward slash new Rory and mall. Now back to the episode. Do you think that Cardi B would show up? That's interesting.

Yeah, I could see Cardi B showing up. What if Nikki shows up? Nikki's not showing up. Do you see who's on the women list? Nicky's not showing up. Yeah, Cardi and Remy have a good relationship, right? No, Remy. I could see Cardi be popping up

or on Lil Kim set one of the queens of hip hop set. Are they all performing together? No. Or is that just... It's probably going to be like medley. Yeah. Labeling it.

Okay. I hope it's a medley because if not, people are going to be there for about eight hours. Oh, for sure. That's a long... It opens at 4.30. You're not getting out of there until midnight.

No. Yeah. Sure. That's long. That's a long day. Damn, eight hours. That's a long day. That's an all-day thing, for sure.

100%. But either way, it's dope that they're doing this. Bronx. Shout out to Run DMC, Snoop Dog, Little Wayne, Ice Cube for headlining it.

And yeah, that's, you know, another, another hip hop 50 celebration that I think is going to be one for the history books.

For sure. Last night, I finally watched the Johnny Mansell, Johnny Football Untold So good. Doc on Netflix. One of my favorite

docs of this year. It was too short. That's how good it was that I was, like, disappointed when it ended at an hour and 20. Yeah.

A lot of stuff, obviously we knew, but post-N-FL stuff about Johnny Manzell, I did not know. You know, I don't want to spoil the doc, but definitely talks about his depression and possible suicide attempts and what he was going through afterwards. But really, really good doc. Untold always does the best job. Great job in documentaries. I fell asleep right after he said, but the last thing I remember, he said, yeah, I love,

you know, the whole Johnny football. I loved it. It was fucking great, but that's not who I was. Like that was like my old to ego football persona type of thing His homie that was with the MENA Mended up like becoming his agent or manager at the time

And I mean Good move of bad I'll throw it out there I'll throw out a spoiler But like Pretty much Remember when people were like Oh he comes from a rich family

Like he's got oil money That was a lie that they came up with Because they were covering their tracks For making 30 grand like a week A day A day Like he'd sign a bunch of shit in a hotel room They'd fly to like Vegas to do it

party there and then go back to A&M's campus for a game on Saturday. Yeah. But they would just leave a bunch of autograph merch in a room and they would just get 30 grand cash. That's a sick lifestyle. It's fucking nuts. For college, for a college. And he tried to do the same thing in the NFL and it just caught up with him. He went on Saturday afternoon, flew from Cleveland to Vegas and said, oh, I'll be back

by tonight. And then I didn't realize that there wasn't a flight after 10.30 p.m. Yeah, when you're moving like that, you got to have the private waiting. You miss the flights and then just send it. He was like, fuck it. Yeah. Fuck like. Fuck the game.

Yes. Yeah. You just got crashed in Vegas. That's when he got let go of the Browns. No, he would, I knew he was wilding. I did not know he was wilding like this. Like I kind of thought during this old thing, they were gassing it a little bit. I'm like, there's no way this dude is really like blackout drunk at the combine.

Yeah. And he was. They track how many minutes of, of a game film you watch and like training sessions on the iPads that each individual player gets. His had zero minutes tracked. In the NFL. The people were on the Cleveland Brown staff were like, This has to be. There's no way.

This is like legit. And he goes, I've never touched game film ever. Never looked at an iPad. Never looked at it. That's pretty ill. He's probably just doing lines off it. I mean,

that speaks to a lot, though, because a lot of times when you're a great college athlete and, you know, the pro level, a lot of times some of these guys really just aren't good enough to really be good pros. And maybe Johnny felt like that. No, he just, his priority wasn't football. Yeah. Which he kind of gets into, especially once he got to the pro's, pros. He's like, it should doesn't buy training camp.

Week one, he's like, it's just not fun to me anymore. Oh, okay. And his priorities already were on partying at that point. Yeah. He won the He won the Hizman, AP Player of the Year. First place to the year. He was Wowing. The Davey O'Brien Award, Consensus All-American. He won the Manning Award.

2012 was a hell of a year for John. He was playing backyard football against Alabama. Like, he was insane. Yeah. But it's a great doc. I'm curious if it would have made Johnny Manzo worse. or better had athletes been able to be paid. Because he was going, he had no money.

And obviously, you know, they broke down the stats of what A&M made the year that 2011. Millions. It was in the billions. They built a whole fucking stadium based off Johnny Manzo. They sold over a million of the Adidas jerseys. Even the blank ones Adidas was selling without his name on it. You're still moving crazy. That's when he was like, well, all right.

let me at least sign an autograph for a little bit of money. He went to, I forgot what city it was. He was at baggage claim. And someone was like, I'll give you three grand for an autograph. He was like, oh, shit, all right, bet. Then some real autograph guy that pulled up with Alex Rodriguez and a Rolls Roy said, you're getting fucked over. Three grand?

I'll give you 30 grand right now for one. And then that's when everything went downhill. I'm not saying giving Johnny more money or more access would have been a solution, but I don't think he would have done the sneaky shit. Yeah. had athletes been able to be paid at that time. Well, if somebody pulls up on you and you're a college athlete and they tell you're giving 30 grand for an autograph, you know, as a college athlete, you start like, I could sign

autographs all fucking day. 30,000 for one autograph? I'll sign 30,000 jerseys today. Well, it got to a point to where he was so popular on campus, he could no longer go to class so that only freed up his schedule more to travel. He wasn't going to go to class anyway. I mean, obligation-wise, if there was on the team, like, you know, show up, sit in the back, whatever, but he had no ties.

So he was able to travel, do all these side missions just to make it back on Saturday to play. I mean, that's some rock star shit. I mean, I think it adds to the legend of Johnny Manziel. I think he, you know, if he doesn't do these things, do we even talk about him as a pro player?

Who knows? Like, is he good enough to... Oh, his allure was the... I mean, he was the most talked about player, but he was projected to not even go in the first round. He ended up going in the first round, but he was the number one talked about player. Even his combine story. He, no, that's a great time. He got fucked up the night before, like, he was doing so well.

And then the night before his, like, it wasn't a combine. It was his workout with the Cleveland Browns in particular got his wide receivers completely shit-faced in the hotel the night before. They, you know, they didn't have the Mickey Mantle gene that Johnny Mansell had. So Johnny shows up for the workout. His wide receivers cannot stand up in the hotel. So his agent and like, just like the janitor played as his wide receivers. Wait. I swear to God.

Wait, wait, wait. He got shit face. His receivers could not make it to the workout. This is the team that drafted him. Hold on. Who was his receivers? It was his agent. And didn't he say like a fucking janitor or someone that...

His agent played high school football with him though, right? No, no, no, no. At this point, we dropped the friend from college because... No, this was just an agent. It was just like his, like, actual sports agent. This guy's not an athlete. No. He's not an athlete.

They were like, you know, run a five-yard slant. He's like, what's that? No, wait. God, you got to watch shit. It was his agent and then just some dude that it like was cleaning up. It was another friend or something like that. How did he get drafted? This was the team that drafted.

From no first round looks to going 22nd in the first round. He ran a four or five blacked out. He smoked the pro day washed and they show him. Like you can see in his face, he is, he is not there. He's checked. Now he probably did a bunch of Coke just to survive this workout. And he killed it. That's insane.

Yeah, I got to finish it. I started it. I got to finish it, though. That's fucking crazy doing a workout with your agent as your receiver. I never, what is? How is that even possible? Like, if your agent is a former player and he's an agent now, maybe that makes sense. Like, okay, I get it, he knows how to play football.

And Kaepernick can't even get a workout. Yep. This shit is, it's crazy. That's crazy. But either way, I got to check out that doc. Another documentary that's coming. Roy was excited about this. Oh, it's out.

I was not excited about this. I don't want to get too much into Kanye and Kim, but I did watch the first episode of the documentary about their divorce. The first episode, I think is from Kanye's perspective. I didn't watch Kim's yet. But I feel like off the first episode, Kanye's people are behind this. They made Kanye look fucking amazing. I was like, this animal Kim took Kanye from us.

But what if Kanye is amazing, though? Nah, I got to see. Episode two is from Kim's perspective. Okay. Episode one is from Kanye's. Okay, so paint them both in a positive light and then show the crash and show the downhill after the spiral. Okay, I get it. So, HBO Max, Kim versus Kanye, the divorce.

This is sick, though, the HBO of all. Bro, they're going to prop it off of everything they do. It's just like a divorce stock. What do, what do it? It's gross. But again, what do we keep for yourself in your privacy now? They don't care. But that's what you have to care.

to an extent because you have kids and your kids of age now they're open their kids are on tic-tok what chris did with kim she slotted out her own daughter you think she's not going to get a dollar off the divorce i just i don't know man i think just airing out so much like what is i understand that the relationship's over they you know have both moved on or whatever but i just think some things need are not just for us to know we shouldn't have a documentary highlighting their divorce I just think that that's free. Do we know if Kim or Kanye are behind like you don't need authorization for a doc now.

Well, Kanye's friend, Al B is the first episode. Like, it's their friends are involved in it. So I would imagine they signed off on some of it. I don't think anything going out about them is not getting. Especially with HBO. You can't trust me. I could see like a YouTube account. No, nothing is going out on HBO without their approval.

Like they're very much aware and involved. Because say they don't approve with how this is port. trade or whatever the case may be, they're never going to work with the HBO or any of their affiliates again. This is like this is not a risk for HBO to take to even think about tarnishing a relationship with either of them. I see what you're right. They did a great job in episode one, making Kanye look like he hated fame, which I thought

was hilarious because he loves it. Well, apparently even, oh, I thought he loved sneakers and apparently he's walking around Italy barefoot right now. No, he's got the gym ones, you know, like the. rubbery where you can see the toes. No, no, no. You just want to drop a 45 pound weight on the toes of the people that wear those in the gym? No. Like put some shoes on. I want Kanye to put you what to do, Rory. You've never seen people with the toe shoes. Yeah, it's the white people.

I just like, I want to accidentally, all right, maybe a 15 pound. That better? It would still break a toe. I mean, at that. Then wear sneakers. You could break a toe. If I dropped the weight on your shoes right now, you'd be. But I don't want to intentionally drop a weight on people with sneakers. Well, when I wait, if I take my shoes off, it's just better for your back. balance. You're in the gym with your shoes off? That's normal. No, I don't walk around the gym with my shoes off, but when I'm lifting weights, I'll take my shoes off. I'll take them back on. Like when you squat and stuff. Yeah. That's pretty normal. The only time I take my shoes off in the gym is if I'm doing like a ab circuit because I'm just sitting on a circuit. I want to punch him in the middle of his face. I'm doing an ab circuit. I'm doing an ab circuit. I'm doing an demo on Patreon. I'll do a demo on Patreon. I'll do a demo on Patreon shut. Yo, listen.

I bring my yoga, Matt. The legend Kassanat. He finally spoke about the meet and greet that went bad. Well, not the meeting and greet, the giveaway that went bad in Union Square. He addressed his subscribers and his followers on his stream the other day expressing out he was upset at the destruction and the damages that everybody that was out there caused that was in his intentions. He didn't want it. He wanted to be a dope, peaceful, fun. event.

And we spoke about it. We know he had good intentions. This team didn't think it all the way through. They didn't prepare for a bunch of just wild Gen Z kids to be out there in the middle of Union Square fighting their lives off of PlayStation 5s. I mean, I appreciate him taking a page out of Trump's book. Yeah. Inside a riot and be like, nah, I didn't.

What? Yeah, got to. That's the way to do it. No intention of that. I didn't know the capital was in D.C. This, to me, I get it, I understand, but this adds to the allure. of Kai. Oh, for sure. This is, this puts him on another. He's like he's, he was a god already to these kids. He's a super god to them now. And, um, you know, but I did think it was dope for him

to address it. And he did seem sincere about saying that he didn't like, you know, the way it turned out. He didn't like seen the videos or anybody destroying stuff. Because at the end of the day, that does fall on his name, his brand. But, um, you know. Covered on every news outlet. Like, yeah. That's crazy. Yeah. But speaking of Trump and bingo cards. What? I didn't have on my bingo card that Trump would be discussing the YSL case during a campaign year. He gangster. Trump is, I keep, see, y'all give me shit about talking about Trump, but it's just this, the shit like this, this is not something you expect to hear from a presidential candidate.

For those that don't know, Trump was, I don't know, given one of his rally speeches, and he was suggesting that the DA and the YSL case was in a consensual relationship with the gang leader of YSL that was on trial right now, which would definitely be a, conflict of interest and we've heard rumors about that already prior to but hearing it from a former president was fucking nuts and I don't I'm not gassing when I think if

Trump is elected he would pardon young thug absolutely if he's already starting on this right now of absolutely and he would actually I hate to say it to get the black vote oh he got the black vote or right no he has your vote he got a black vote no he has your

you don't even vote yeah exactly yeah so you're you're the one vote that would have been casted is no longer in play. Trust me when I tell you, bro, more people are going to vote for Trump than you believe. You know, I don't like to defend this guy. Trust me, but I think Trump would even have a case legally that he could pardon young thug if young thug does get sentenced to life. He could be like, he didn't get a fair shake.

He pardoned Kodak black. I forgot about that. He got ASAP Rocky home. Like, I just don't. Yeah, we don't think Thug is a... You got to keep score, man. Just look at this shit. At this point, he can book a festival.

I'm not keeping score of president and rappers. You have to. I'm not. I don't have to. He pardoned Kodak Black. That is hilarious. That did nothing. Him not pardoned Kodak Black wouldn't have heard him at all.

Obama pardoned John Forte? Once his out. Or was that George Bush? I can't remember. I don't know. Somebody when I was a teenager. We really let Rocky get off that he was slipping our semen in jail. I just.

I mean, Pasanova confirmed it. yeah no once guys confirmed that's it okay I was just I didn't know it yeah it was in the bathroom you know people be jerking off and it's been all seamen this shit yeah I love that if I needed another reason not to want to go to jail yeah I'm gonna that yeah I'm gonna like there's just fresh semen just chilling where you shower yeah I'm free fresh I mean if you're slipping on it I would imagine it would be this Trump thing though now let's talk that what if it's true what if this is true this is I think this is true this is this has been a rumor way before Trump said it.

And the fact, I'm not saying that Trump ever faxed checks things or doesn't just like say shit that's not true. I don't think he's saying this unless there's some hard evidence on it. Because this is crazy for Donald Trump to bring up the YSO Fulton

County case. And it's been a rumor for a while. Because there people were asking, why does she have it out for YSEL like that? Like why is she so hell bent on bringing down YSA? Okay, what's funnier? Trump saying that or that his nickname is Big Nut. That's why she went for it.

Yeah, his nickname. Wait until Trump keeps going with this and starts dropping names. So people will call him Big Nut? Big Nut is a crazy thing. That's what the Fulton County DA called him. Yeah. It's on paperwork now. And Trump is saying that, you know, oh, this is why you got to, you mad to try relationship

with Sauer. And her name is Fannie. Yeah. That's funny. Big Nuts. Big Fannie was getting blamed by Big Nutt. Yeah. There you go.

Yours. This is real life. I'm just saying, man, listen, man, I'm just saying we, this is, this is the presidential nominee right here. I feel like this has to be, you know how they just to put like fake nicknames in papers, sometimes paperwork? You're like, no one really calls them that. Are you calling your man's big nut? No, that's on paper.

That's not, that's in paper. What would be yours? Like, if you got went down with the Rico, what would they say your, he's big eight? Malish. We better know he's big eight. Mm, the eight. Malito. What would my alias be?

Mall. Mall. Yeah, that is kind of It's a trash alias. Wow. But you need like a, I think big eight would be better. Nah, big eight.

That's not an alias, such a name. Rory would just go by Rory. Because that's fucking original. What's your alias? Big red. For sure. Big red. Sexy Red.

Red Rocket. You can't. Why can't I be? Oh, man. I can't be sexy. Simply right. Nobody in the criminal organization is calling you sex.

They're calling this guy big nut. I can't be sexy red. And that's toad in the line already. That's towing the line. sexy red is absolutely bad. Can you imagine me sexy red and Big Not running the yard? Yuck. No, I couldn't.

There'd be slipping on semen nonstop. Oh my God. What the fuck is wrong? All right. Except Rocky could not handle it. Do we have any voicemails? The first one is more akin to the conversation we just finished with Big Nut. Akin.

Okay. Okay. I would love to see where this goes. How you attach these two things. So, guys, I got a question. is it hip hop for a man to go to the sex shop by himself? Listen, me and my girl, been together for a minute. We've gone to the sex shop together.

She recently asked me to pick something up because she lives two hours away from me, wanting to do something with it. I told her, it's crazy for me to go in there by myself. Now, y'all tell me, if I'm crazy or if I'm crazy or is you wilding? Because I think it's crazy for a man to go in there by himself. See?

If you go with your girl is cool, two girls just go as cool, but a man by himself, that's nuts. Let me know if I'm crazy. I'm so mad he didn't tell us what he had to get. Yes. You're not going to go in there alone

and pick up the hammer? The hammer, bro, what's wrong with you? First of all, sex jobs were created for men. I actually kind of agree with him, though. That was a very secret. What? Because you look normal when you go in with your partner.

Okay. True. But men, there is some type of stigma. Okay. If a man walks in by himself to a sex shop, typically people will say creep. You look like Bundy. You do look fine when you're with your partner. It's like, oh, they're just getting shit to have sex.

But if you go and buy yourself as a man, you look. Not hip-hop. Those are two different things. It's both. It's not hip-hop to go to a sex shop or yourself? It's actually very not hip-hop. It's like Bundy vibes. What are you talking about?

No, a man's for you. It's fine, but it's not hip-hop. What about if Uchiwali? playing at the time. I don't care what's playing. What if you're getting? What if you're getting like edible panties? No, I think it's fine to go pick something up. It's fine to go pick something up for you. He tried to try edibles in with edible I see what you tried to do. No, aren't those real? There's a thing. Yeah.

Yeah. The fact that we edible. Edibles is hip-hop. We'll be fired. Like, we have. They're like food roll-ups. No, I mean like edible. One of the more pointless things in the sex world, in my opinion. What? Edible panties. What part is it? Because you're not fun, money. You're not fun. What do you eat? they're like fruit roll-ups. They're like, yeah, they're like the whole joint is edible? Yeah, and like, it's like sweet tarts and fruit roll-ups.

Oh, sorry, I didn't know you would. And just something like, have you ever, you ever ate too much fruit roll-up for a second? Like, it's hard to chew. Sometimes it gets caught in your teeth. You need a drink of water. I just feel like edible panties. Well, you don't like sweets. So this makes sense.

That too. My blood sugar level could be crazy. Right. I may pass out mid-sex. Like, I get how somebody would think of edible panties. He and edible panties. He had how somebody would think of creating edible panties. roll up. But I know looking back, they probably

was like, that just... As a woman, let's say he gets the edible panty, like, stuck in his teeth and doesn't realize it. Mid-sex, is I going to throw you off? You're asking, not. You're asking the wrong question. Demarice, as a woman, how many times have you worn edible panties? I've never worn edible penny because I like my pH balance

to stay the way. That's my point. That's my point. That's why I was like, in hot, it's... Okay, make panes that the guy can eat, oh, right before you eat the pussy. You get it. But it's like, they didn't really think that through, though. Because women don't even wear that. Because women didn't create shit like that. A lot of women have never won edible pant. Do y'all think like they wear this

for like hours? This is just like... It doesn't matter. I don't want sugar. She's just... There's a woman right here that says she's never ever... No. Want to pay edible panties. I never thought about it. I was going to try to prove you wrong, but David Sanderson and Lee Brady invented inventable... There's no way women would have.

Men create all the uncomfortable shit that we are expected. What are you trying to say about men? Where? They're called candy pants. That's kind of fun. funny that's funny great name okay well what do you think he picked up a vibrator i probably a vibrator i would imagine i feel like that's where i kind of all love but they wanted to try some new shit you think a vibrator's new with chains nickel nipple clamps yeah a man can't go in and buy so

and buy that type of shit you're gonna look you're gonna look that very weird yeah but also do you care what the cashier there's a stigma um they're also the cashier at the sex shop like let's look at the hierarchy of this relationship there's just the cash okay well it depends what you're stealing these four walls i'm going to fuck my girl bye You don't think they're fucking? I'm just saying like, do you really put that much stake in what the 17 year old they're running the register things?

Well, other people are in the sex shops. You ever got called the sex shop? I've never, I've actually never been in a sex shop. And the amount of people I've ran into on 8th Avenue, like that's where most of our sex shops are on 8th Ave in Midtown. True. The amount of people I've just like,

the ways for sex shop. Yeah, what I don't know what you? Who is this guy? He's the ways for sex shop? You just know what they all at? You just know what they all that? You're yelping the shit. How do you just have that on the back of your brain?

I have it on my Uber eats. Oh, no, no, no. If you can make a left on 43 right there on the corner of eighth. It's a nice one right there. Everyone knows on eighth there's mad sex shop in midtertime. Yeah. By Times Square. The only sex shop that I've ran into my mom's friends over there.

Like, I can't go there by myself and walk out. Now I see why. Now see why. On 8th Avenue, not in the sex shop. Okay, on 8th Avenue. You've never ran into somebody on 8th Avenue in your life. Right after the sex shop? Not after the sex shop.

No. Not after the sex shop that I could think of. Well, all right there, your mom's. The only set up that I could think of is the one right there on 6th Avenue, West 5th, West 4th. Oh, you go to the freaky ones. No, that's the only. I go to the commercial one. You go to the underground one, right?

That's the only one I could think of them. You'd be going crazy on Christopher Street. Speak easy. It's lit up right there on 6th Avenue. Everybody knows it's right across you from one of the most famous basketball courts in New York City. Like, you can't miss it. But that's the only one off the top of my. He knows about ones on 8th Avenue.

Like, huh? It's like seven blocks worth of him. You can't miss them. So to the guy. order on Amazon. Answer his question. Order from Adam Deney. But they needed it that night.

What? He has to call back. What did he have to go? Amazon Prime. I've sent him to a sex shop before. You what? Yeah. You did what?

I've sent the man to a sex shop before. What item? Vibrous. See, I don't think they're getting viping. We're talking about like the weird. We knew what to get already.

But how do y'all? Y'all can't put weird and it's not weird. We don't kink shame. You can't put it on. You can't put it on him. I'll say that's not hip- Favorite pastime is the king shame.

I'm not kingshamed at all. I'm just figuring. Well, they call him missionary mall. That's all he does. That's crazy. That's crazy. On your paperwork is missionary mall. It's crazy. That's your Rico name.

Yeah, there it is. You and Big Nutt. But hold on. Missionary Mall and Big Nutt is crazy. Getting commissary together is crazy. I'm the capo. Hold on, but Damaris said vibrator. She said vibrator is like plural.

Okay. Well, because it's happened more than once he's had to go. Batteries die? Like to get a specific one? Or like, they die, you lose the chargers. Like,

things happen. We're in the new age of technology. You are running that thing to the ground. You put an air tag on it. Sometimes, no, sometimes you have vibrators that die? I left,

when we were in Philly, I left one of my vibrators in the goddamn hotel. How horny are you? We were in Philly for one day. You're in 12, a train. What the fuck?

We spent 30 hours in Philly. Like, like, you got to bring your vibrators for a day trip. With my travel vibrator, it stays in my... You were banging it in the sprinter? It stays in your...

In my luggage, yeah, and I accidentally left it. What? That is insane. Men leave toothbrushes or fucking, like, the charger in the wall. She leaves vibrators in Philly in 30 hours. Y'all don't know who I know in Philly. All right. Clearly we don't.

I don't... A vibrator in Philly. I don't think Q will mind me telling this story. She had packed one to go somewhere, and on the way back, she forgot to put it in the check luggage. So I was like, I just throwing your back. And of course, they randomly picked Kia for, like, the throw everything out your bags are cheap. Yeah, because they saw a 12-inch fucking piece of rubber in their bag.

They thought it was a pipe bomb. They thought it was a pipe bomb. They was like, okay, you fucking out, Katie. Come on. We got you. It's buzzing. I think it's ticking down. It's ticking down.

I had the cana dog on Kea's bag for a dildo. And that dog licking it. Damn. So she already has PTSD from that because I didn't. make it any easier. I'm just behind the TSA agent dying laughing the entire time. Then another trip, I put my electric razor in my carry-on bag, but like the wheelie one. And it got turned on somehow. So you just heard this really loud buzzing noise. Yikes. Kia got out of line and was like, I think I left my vibrator. I can hear it. I can hear it. So we thought we're going to have

part two again. Yeah. And we just had to risk it. And thank God, it was my fucking razor. Yo, that is fucking hilarious, man. I didn't know so many people were going through TSA with Vibrators and shit. Yeah, it's a good teammate. It's common, yeah. That's what's up. I mean, all I bring on the road are the shoes, you know. Yeah.

Does don't make no sense. You're a man's man. You do circus for you guys. You do. Hey, yo. You brought the shoes for us? Yeah, I don't, I don't know. We're going to talk about that one.

You know, that's not hip-hop to go on a sex store by yourself as a man. Come on. I just think it's a little, you're going to look at you a little creepy. I know if I got to sex. I want to know what he was getting. creepy and not hip hop are two different things though it's kind of sort of just. No, not really. No, it's not. Hip hop can be very creepy. Hip hop is mad.

It's like the middle of the Venn diagram. There is quite an overlap between those three. The middle of the what? Venn diagram. You didn't go to school, so I just keep saying that you. Damn. Are Venn diagrams the sir? What's wrong with you? All right. All right. Do we have another voicemail? Venn diagram. Order online, sir. Yeah, order online, though. Sorry, go pick that shit up. You get a pussy. They're not. Let's go pick it up. He'll end up on a sex registry.

I'm not getting pussy because I'm not going to a sex store. Yeah, right? Missionary Mall That's what's up Next one It's another hip hop one What's up guys? My name is Jadikis

No it's not That's not Wait wait wait wait wait stop And he spells it J-A-Y A-K-U-S If that's really your name You have to call back And tell me how your parents landed on that

You know They're from youngish I know mad Jada-Kis is No you don't I swear to God I do You know real people named Jadikis No they're yes People name names.

Like on their birth certificate? Yes. How do they spell it? Shout out. She's doing that high voice shit. That's his ID. He put his IG there. Bro.

Real name Jada kiss? He found his Instagram already. That's wild. Yeah. He put it in here. There's a bunch of it. He doesn't really look like a Jadaicus. I'll be honest with you.

Why are y'all surprised about that? I don't even think his name is Jadakus. But he says Jada kiss to kind of like. Yeah. Spice it up. I want to hear his mom call his name. Jadakis? I'm pretty sure that's what his name is.

Jada kiss? No. that's a real name? Wow. Yeah. Okay. That's what's up. This is him.

What's up, guys? My name is Jadicus. I'm from Camden, New Jersey. And I have a, who is a hip-hop question? My first one is, is it hip-hop to wear the same cologne as your boy? Like when y'all are going out? No. No.

I was going out last night with my cousin. I got to put cologne on, put up to his crib. As him for his cologne. He kind of, like, looked at me like I was crazy. telling me we can't be smelling the same. I mean, I get it, but at the same time, who gives a fuck. But just curious if that's hip-hop.

And then the second one is, the other night, I'm laying in bed. You know, I'm a little chilly. So I fucking, I realize I'm curled up in a ball. And I didn't see it. And all I can think is, mom, like, damn, is this hip-hop? I don't know. It was weird to think about mom at that time.

Yeah, whatever. is that shit hip hop and you guys should come down a sky As long as long as a fucking Jada kiss verse my God that's long-winded fucking question ever First of all

Don't think about me When you balled up in the bed Because you're cold number one You're his style of P Yeah no That first of all Missionary We're in the same cologne

Because that's a thing Because I've been in a situation like that Where a friend might forget We're going out And I ain't got no cologne Like yo let me get some cologne Now I'll let him wear whatever I'm not wearing.

Okay. Sure. You can't spare. No, no, no, no. He's like, he's at my house or something. He's living from my crib or something. Like, it's like, to wear the same cologne that I have on, we can't. No, that's, no.

You can't do that. Can I tell you guys about my first accidental dirty Mac that had to do with this? Damn. Accidental. Yeah, right? Yeah, okay. Right. A girl told him.

We were on tour. He was like, you're like, yeah, that's mine. Yep. You better not. You're ruining the, why are you going to kill the. You are doing that. So we were on tour with Paloza. rooming with Austin and I had this beard butter I got from lush that was like my shit.

I discovered it. Lush is fired. No one's ever been to Lush. Except for me. No, no, no. So I put it on in the hotel while we're getting ready and Austin was like, damn, I forgot my beer butter. Like my beard is mad dry. Me being the good friend that I am, I was like, well here, take some of mine.

So halfway through Palooza, I see a girl that we knew in Houston and I went up to hug her to say hello. And she went, you smell just like Austin. And I was like, nah, it's mine. it was an initial I felt so nasty it was an initial reaction to what she was saying I didn't even think about it

and it hurt that's bad it hurt you or Austin my just my male ego it was a nasty dirty yeah that was nasty but in my defense

how was I supposed to know she was gonna hug Austin before me because if it was reversed you wanted to run and get the Austin would have smelled like me yeah you didn't think about it like that I feel you it just came out right away

I was just like nah that's mine the fact that you acknowledge that that was dirty Mac and that was just fucked up of you. You learned. I mean, that's honorable. And she did ask, like, what do you mean? And I tried to change the subject because I felt like gross.

But then I started to think even more. I don't think you try to change the subject. Maybe I do have some Dirty Mac like deep down inside. We just talked about that when you was Dirty Mac and Julian, remember? Yeah, he did. Which time? Wow. Oh, you're Dirty Mac meeting at a thing about it too.

What? I am not the Dirty Macer. We was in Chicago. When we were in Chicago. Was it a meet and Greek? Because that doesn't go. No, it wasn't at the meeting. You was in Chicago?

That was the only show I didn't go to. We was in Chicago. First show of the tour. We were at the Soho House. Okay. And we was in the back. So it was a group of women walked by. I was smoking.

They smelled it. So they stopped and they just came up to me and started talking about four or five women, white women. But they seemed like they were cool. I gave her the blunt talking. Come to find out she works in cannabis. From L.A., she works in cannabis. Cool. We started talking about it.

Rory turds. He says, yeah, he voted for Trump. Wow. I'm like, I don't remember this. I don't remember this at all. I'm like, what? You sure that wasn't Benner? No, it was you.

Benner was standing here, but I was like, first of all I didn't, but that's hilarious. Well, I thought because of how she looked, I thought that would be a stat. Like, I thought she'd like you more. See, the Dirty Mac. No, I thought she would like you more. It wasn't, it wasn't about her. I didn't care if they liked me. A little bit.

He's had a conversation about weed. Like, she works in. Because Trump was about to legalize it. We got to put a tally up for, for Roerner. I don't. I don't. Wait, that was your lineup for that? That was some dirty mac and shit.

He was trying to get them like, oh, it threw the blunt at me and run away. That's what he wanted to happen. How did she react? Yeah, because I wanted to just be you and I did. They was like, it was kind of like, okay. I was tired. I was sick that these women came over and ruined our nice evening. I was trying to get them away.

Then he told the world that Julian had on his Salehis or something. Who was it? Oh, yeah. But that was in private as a funder. No, that was literally on the podcast. Oh, that's not enough. Yeah, but it was just us in the room. I might have been like three weeks ago.

like, I gave you those. It was not just us in the room? No, it was not. Well, in the room, yes. In the room, yeah. That's all I said. It went out to many, many people.

No, I told him to cut it. Yeah. Yeah. I get it. Good dirty mac keeping your toes, though. You need that. Like, oh, he was the friend that might say some dirty mac. You got to kind of keep.

I'm not the dirty macker. Well, you have things that will say that you are, is all I'm saying. I'm not saying you have some. You have some things on your portfolio. Okay. Just two lies, make someone a liar? Yes. Yes.

It does. Yeah. You cockblock Edin in London, too. What? Of your cousin? I didn't want him to fuck my cousin. I'm sorry. Cockblock it.

Yeah. Whatever it is cockblock. Whatever you would have. He had that crazy look in his eye. What was the crazy look I had? You know when Edden gets that crazy look. When he takes his hand and he combs us here like that? Yeah.

He was breathing really heavy. And he's like, do you need someone to come back with you? I was like, Eddie. She's fine. I got it. Edd's like, what's your dress? Edon does this and it starts. fake air DJ.

That's sick. Ew. And the whisper in her ears like, yo, you want to hear my set? Yeah. Ugh. In private, I give you a private show.

Private set. Eddn, how many playlists have you sent to women? That's a good strategy, though. I've sent some playlist. Of course you got. There's nothing wrong with sending a playlist. Yeah, DJ, of course you got.

Yeah. How many I can. What was on the playlist is really what? Bad money. And, and, and. For sure. And is your drop on your playlist. Hell no.

You're a liar. That's a liar. You imagine here. my drop in the playlist? You're a line. That's dirty. He's just dry. I think you're like.

But, all right, setting a playlist with my drop. A bad bunny songs to a girl, like he's not one of the biggest art. Yeah, bro.

Yeah, yeah, here's a playlist of the biggest songs of all time. The song's triple platinum. That's sick. You can't put a top ten Bad Bunny song in there.

The deep cut to Diamond album. It's fucking bad bunny, Drake, the weekend, Beyonce. Yeah, I don't know if you heard about this guy yet.

Yeah. That's a sick playlist. He's bad and he's a bunny. Don't know if you heard of him. We have another, we have a callback. I think we should, we'll take it to Patreon. But let's tease it here. Let's start it.

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