New Rory & MAL - Episode 193 | Bobbi & Drake, EST Gee vs. Bootleg Kev, Keke’s New Usher Video

Episode Date: August 18, 2023

This episode the gang had a lot to cover, and of course we had to jump it off with hate. Bobbi-gate is currently upon us, and Rory and Mal double down on her failing as an industry plant, and her addressing the rumors about a Drake romance. Speaking of romance (or lack thereof), the team gives their opinion on Keke Palmer starring in Usher’s new video, as well as how it will affect her coparenting relationship. Let us know in our comment sections your opinion on that situation. Rory is heartbroken because Nelly is accused of being a fraud by his former groupmate, and Mal is heartbroken that The Blind Side wasn't actually historically accurate. EST Gee’s team failed him and we let them know exactly how, answered some voicemails, + more! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoicesSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Your mind is right. I couldn't wait to turn the mics on. I agree. It's one of those days where, you know, you just have a lot of shit to say. A lot did happen in the past few days. Yeah. And since we had reason on,

we did miss a few big topics as well. from the past week. So I'm excited to be back. Let's get straight fucking to it. Okay. Bobby Gate. Oh, man. You guys called me a hater.

Looks like the ball from grace is happening now. Is that what we called you? We called you a hater? No, we called him a hater for sure. Yeah, you guys hatefully said I was hating. Because I actually agreed with Maw and gave him his flowers when I said, I was like, all right, this isn't going to last very long. Like the Drake shit was incredible.

Then I saw the Yadi one. I was like, I see what Moll is saying. The dry humor shoot is about to end. But she did a podcast. with Dave Fortnoy, who just recently bought Barstool, and has been in the press nonstop. So this was already going to be a big interview. Dave, Dave, know how to stay in the headlines, don't he?

Oh, he definitely. And then he just goes and taste pizza in Hamptons. And then he's like a good life. And then berates his employees. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Gotta love it. Oh, shout out to Dave. But Bobby was definitely her real self.

She wasn't in character for this one, which she got a lot of flack for. Which is... I'm not on that side, though. What? She was supposed to... If she's being interviewed, It's not her platform. She's supposed to be the same character

because obviously it's a character. But is it, though? See, the reason why I don't think it's a character now at this point is because Dave, he released the DMs, well, Bobby did. She released the DMs after Dave, you know, kind of alluded to the

DMs that he had with her. She posted a screenshot of the DM and her caption says, I did not want to do this podcast in the first place. That's very telling because if she's saying she didn't want to do the podcast in the first place, that means she's not acting. She really does not want to be there doing a podcast interview on nobody.

Well, I think she was referring to doing Dave's podcast. I don't think she was talking about podcasting. They didn't do a podcast though. Yeah. No, no, no. Like, that was from an interview. Yeah. It was technically a podcast.

Like, so Dave and her did an interview. Yeah. Where she was acting like her regular self, like wasn't talking the same. Yeah. Wasn't in the dry humor shit. Was out of character just talking about her journey since the Drake shit. Oh, yeah. She doesn't mean like, she doesn't mean her own podcast.

Oh, okay. She was saying she didn't want to fuck with Dave. Yeah. Dave released a fake. Dave released a part of the DMs where he responded and said, my girlfriend says you hooked up with Drake and got divorced. I am saying that is not true. I don't know if.

He released when she says, I am not commenting on this publicly, but left. Wait, wait, wait, wait. I didn't know he released a DM. I thought that he, they posted a clip from an interview or episode that he was doing where he said what he asked him.

I've been following this closely. I'll give you the breakdown at the timeline. All right, cool. Bobby goes to the Drake show. Yes. Does it TikTok where she looks unamused the same way she stole your style looking unamused at a drag show? I think that is definitely his style. Go on.

Then from there, Bobby and Drake unfollow each other. Ooh. Then, which was, I think, you know, funny because he did that with Ice Spice. That's like a thing. Yeah, whatever. But once the video of their interview was deleted off YouTube, I was like, all right, there has to be actual real beep. deleting a Drake interview off your YouTube is fucking insane.

Yeah, phenomenal. Like something really must be wrong. That's like, he's a troll. That's like deleting a Drake verse off your album. That's insane. True.

Yeah. Shout out to Trippy Rip. She does an interview with Dave, but then Dave does another podcast where he alludes to him speaking with Bobby that she fucked Drake. He didn't lie, but he did kind of manipulate

what their DM conversation was. So once that clip went out... Well, he just blurred his lips. He didn't, he just, It's kind of like you got to listen to the episode to hear what I'm saying. So then Bobby post the DMs like, no, dude, I told you that I didn't sleep with Drake. You left that part out. You made it sound like I didn't answer the question when I clearly did answer the question, which I respect Bobby for doing.

Like, even if Dave didn't say it, he alluded to it when that was already a rumor. Like, don't do that. Your platform is fucking huge. Did he allude to it, though? Yes, he did. He definitely. I thought he was saying that, yo, he asked her. And after that, like, it kind of blurred.

Yeah, which is crazy when she straight up said, that's the rumor right now. I'm not commenting publicly, but off the record, you're right, that's like I didn't fuck Drake and I'm not getting divorced. So I can see why she would be upset about that. But it didn't really help. Everyone still thinks she fucked trick.

Which is fucked up. It is kind of crazy. That's fucked up when you think about it. Because, you know, I mean, obviously, she's a grown woman and she's married. But to put this out here that she may have, slept with Drake, you have to see how that would affect her

real life, her real marriage. I mean, in the theory that everything is within a rollout, do you think they would delete a Drake interview for a troll and to give this girl another moment? Drake's great, yeah, I'll just unfollow you, and then we can start that rumor. I think Drake, who's on tour right now,

need some extra entertainment. I'm sure Drake finds us hilarious in his hotel room after shows. Yeah. Artists do a lot of weird shit when they're on tour because they're bored. I want to know. And I think this could be a troll in some degree. Maybe.

For no matter what, that video you can find on the internet. Even though they deleted an offer account, which is crazy, it'll still exist forever. But my thing is... This made a whole new moment. Right. We have to get to the... Why is the episode deleted? Because that's...

I think that's going to tell everything. Now, we speculated. We said maybe there was an agreement before. they, you know, shot that, that that interview was only going to live for a month or two, whatever it was. Which would be weird. Which would be weird. But maybe that's what it was.

Like, yo, it can live on your YouTube channel for a month. You know, Drake is one of the biggest artists in the world. I could see a point where he would make that type of request. Yeah. Like, you can leave it on your YouTube for a month and then that's it, take it down. Well, what's a difference? People download shit all the time. Well, yeah.

But, again, I, you know, I'm just trying to think, I don't think that this is a new legend that. I don't think that. this comes down because, you know, her and Drake had an argument and he came on to her. He made a pass at her. There's a bunch of shit that people are saying. And I'm just like, no, I don't think that's why the interview. It's funny to say, though, unfortunately. I mean, it's funny.

It's funny to say, but it's fucked up when the woman is married. And now it seems to be affecting her real life. Even if she wasn't married, it would be still fucked up. Even if she was single, like out of the body on someone. Yeah, no, it's fucked up. Especially because it's already painted that any woman in the. entertainment industry anywhere in that space the moment they come into contact with celebrities they fuck them

it's mad massage it's. Well they've been close to Drake but even with Drake too like don't put a body on him it doesn't affect him the same way it's going to affect body right absolutely but so don't put that on that man but it's it is interesting because again even though I did last episode it was literally started the entire rumor I did oh my god I was already I did not start right clearly a rumor I took it to another level and said maybe his meat out in the green room yeah wow usually your platform and respond that's fucking that's fucking I shouldn't have said that.

Yeah, no. I apologize for saying that. But in the middle of all that, she was also getting backlash for not having the same character when she was talking with Dave. Plus, she explained that the Yadi experience was really awkward and weird,

and he wasn't very hospitable. She did his podcast. Yeah, went to his house, said that, like, barely acknowledged that her existence when they walked in. So she was getting a lot of flack with that. And her saying, I'm getting all this negativity now.

If you want to go interview rappers and step into the hip hop space, that means people in the hip hop space are going to critique you. And you can't be upset about that. Right. If you're coming from outside, especially if you're coming from outside the genre or the culture, you can't be mad that people are critiquing you in the culture. You came here. Right. So take it. And once you start speaking about somebody from the culture in a negative way, that everyone has said nothing but positive fucking.

things about. Rarely have you ever heard someone not say amazing things about Yaddi. Right. As far as like his personality, who he is as a human being. To then go and shit on him after he did you a solid and a favor is kind of crazy. And then to be like, damn, I'm getting all this negativity. What did you think you would get? You're speaking about somebody of the culture that we love in a negative way without him even being able to defend himself. Like since what? Is he supposed to like roll out the red carpet for you? when you come to the crib? And then she said she was texting her friend.

I'm like, I don't even want to do this. I didn't even want to do this. I need to leave. This is so awkward. What am I doing here? Says the awkward girl. Do you want, right. Do you want?

Why do you keep, why everything you keep saying, I didn't even want to do this? But this is why I'm going back to what she posted. I don't think she ever wanted to do a podcast. No, I don't, I don't, I think she wanted to do the podcast. I don't talk about the day. She's talking about the day.

Bro, I don't think so. I think she wanted to do a podcast, but I don't think she wanted to do a podcast, but I don't think she wanted to do hip hop artists. That's the first interview was Drake, wasn't it? Yes. No, she did Armani. She did, um... She did, Funny Marco might have been funny Marco.

Yeah, that was her first interview. She immediately went into the culture. Like, yeah, as I said, all hip hop. That's what I'm saying. I don't think she wanted to do any of this. That's a weird, that's a weird thing to not want to do. Because you got to remember, go back. People were saying she's a podcast industry plan.

I mean, like she was planning there. I really think she did not want to do any of it. this podcast and shit. I think she was fine doing a TikTok shit. Rick Glassman was her first time. Okay. Who? But 99% of it has been in I've got him and Mark Cuban. I don't, I can't agree with them all.

I don't think that she just did it. I think she's, I think she's all. That's random. Yeah, I don't think that. I think she never wanted to talk to anybody. I don't think she's equipped for the critique and negativity she's gotten from it. Yeah. Sure. I agree with. But that comes with, you walked in the gate and got a Drake interview. Just maybe you should shut up for a second.

you shouldn't complain. You came in as a... No, you can't complain if you really did not want to do any of this shit. Which is my point. That's such a weird theory. Why do you think that? Because from the gay people are saying she's a plant. From the gate.

Yeah, but that's going to happen. She's a white girl doing interviews with black people. I don't know where I got to drink it. Exactly. So this is my point. It sounds like somebody has set this whole thing up and it sounds like she never even wanted to do any of this shit. Okay, okay. So yeah, you're saying someone literally orchestrated her even

doing the pod like yeah like you're a so awkward white girl i know this would crush exactly i can get you the biggest names okay now i'm starting to see this is what i'm saying i think she never wanted to do any of this podcast she she had the choice so obviously she didn't she wanted to do it she had a choice not the choice no but i'm just saying no because she's a she's a personality wait until she interviews lizzo she's a personality quote unquote on ticot right yes yeah so somebody may have convinced her like yo you should do you should do a podcast there's a lot of money for you. We can line up these big guests for you. She probably was like, okay, cool, whatever, let's do it. But I don't think she's at the core she ever really wanted to do a podcast.

She doesn't, she looks like she doesn't want to do a podcast. No, I think that's just the character. That's the character and the stick. I don't, is it? Yes, I think it's funny that people are looking at that and they're like, look, she's not the same girl as the interviews. I'm like, yes, of course, she's doing a character. Yeah, you have to watch the Dave interview for real, because she's herself in that one. Like, well, I'm going, I'm going out saying I don't think that Bobby ever wanted to do a podcast at all. Damn. Where does she go from here?

Back to TikTok. And do we ever really get an explanation? I don't know. She's a big TikTok person. Oh. Do you think we'll get an explanation for the Drake video being deleted? No. That's nuts.

No. I'm sure there's an idea. I think we'll get a explanation. I don't know if we'll get it anytime soon. In 2023, between the media space and who fucking Drake is, a Drake interview being deleted. Maybe I'm, maybe I think that's crazier than y'all do. I mean, monetization. I understand why that's crazy.

I think Drake had it deleted once he looked at it a few times and was like, why am I in a bed drinking a child? It was funny, though. It was good. There's no way that he didn't go through melons of approvals of like thoughts. He probably owns that footage. Yeah, like. Well, no, I believe that.

It's a funny interview. I get it what's happening. I think it's just, I think this is all bullshit hype honestly at the end of the day, no matter what it is. You think this is all part of another. This is all hype for some, rollout or some bullshit that we're about to hear again. Yeah. Another interview.

I mean, she just did the Tiger shit. Yeah, it's not going to stop. She's on a... The offset shit. Like, you think she gets another episode with Drake? No. No. But that would be fucking hilarious.

I think so. I don't think so. If that happens, then that would be wacky. I think they get a new episode. I think they shoot again. I think they shoot again. I can see them doing a TikTok video, like a quick, like... To kill the rumor or so, yeah, yeah.

I think they shoot again. And Drake asked her like, yo, so you had my show, you wasn't feeling it? Like, I could totally see that going into the... like the next, like. Drake's not giving her that much in. There's no way. He's not doing that. If he's,

if he's, if he's, if he's, if he's, if he's, if he's, if he's, he's,

he's, somebody behind this podcast. He might be producing this podcast if we know that. Oh, I can totally fear. That's why I think

deleting it could be just a marketing ploy from the yeah, I think that's what it is. I'm telling it makes it more legendary like, then it got deleted and maybe she fucked Drake.

She just didn't fuck Drake. That part we can leave out. I don't think she fucked Drake. I could care less about that. I don't think that's a funny theory, though. It's like, I mean, it was the first thing once it was deleted. Everyone was like, oh, well, he beat. Like, that's crazy that everyone, universally was like, oh, he must have beat.

Yeah, but how do people go to that from a deleted episode? Which one of y'all said that he fucked too many pretty girls and now he's going to turn to the ugly ones, quote. That's not how we worded it. That's not how I worded it. That's not how I worded it. That's not how I worked in Julian. Then Julian was like, yeah, it's kind of like John Mayer. Like he got tired of having sex with a whole bunch of girls and he slept with God.

And I was like, John Mayer slept with guys. I didn't know that. I'm not going to let you guys put narratives out there that are full. I said that people like Drake have fucked so many women they're attracted to that they start to find things that they probably wouldn't do because they're bored of all the sex they've had. That's exactly what I just said. Listen, I know Drake has had.

He can, like, try new toys or something. I don't. I know Drake has had his fair share of women, right? But I don't think he's ever tired of beautiful women. No, I'm not saying he's not going to. Nobody ever gets tired of. And I don't really want to, like, this is even. weird talking about Drake's dick, but

with that said, I'm sure he's still going to fuck the bad bitches that he likes. But I think people, when you have that much sex, start to go experiment to shit, they probably wouldn't do. No. That's fucking hell. How the fuck you think Epstein Island started? Maybe A and all. Maybe gory.

That's totally crazy. He walked. Yeah. What do you think? What you think? What are you think? It ain't that much beautiful women in the world. We'd be like, you know what? I'm tired. I've had enough. I've had enough. I've had enough. No man has ever said that. I'm not saying that he's not going to keep fucking the women he's attracted to. Just saying.

Sometimes you got to switch it up a bit. Just do shit you wouldn't do because you've done the same thing so many times. Nah. Okay. I don't think that's a crazy theory. It's not just Drake. I think a lot of entertainers, actors, people that have access to so many women, I think that's a common thing. I've never seen like a pie head dingo.

You know what? Let me just try it try to try to paint it like that. That's true. They call wheat. The gateway drug. I'll tell you something, I've smoked a lot of weed. Now one night have I laid down and said, you know what? Now one night has my head hit the pillow.

I say, heroin is tomorrow. So, Bernice was weed and then Bobby was the heroin? Yeah. I don't know. It's just like, what do you? No, it doesn't happen like that. Like, you do shit like that because that's just always what you wanted to do.

Not because you've had enough of the beautiful women. You guys have your theories. I have mine. Honestly, that's true. That's true. Yeah. That is true. That is true.

He got important for real, though. I'm not going to hold you. Either way, I do think that they'll have another episode. Yeah. I do think that Bobby is definitely not trying to do a podcast. I think she said that. I think that's what she meant. She never went to a podcast at all.

Yeah. But I do think that we do get another Drake sighting, Drake and Bobby on camera siting. Even if it's like a quick little 20 minutes, I do think we get another episode with them too. Huge doubt. I'm sure. Because at this point, it's a, it's a sitcom now.

She's at the show, like just stand. standing there, like, after doing a podcast with him, like, completely oblivious to, like, what he's talking about and songs he's playing for her, like. Well, she, like, what about her husband and two kids? Like, is she just going to go on tour with Drake to shoot it sick, huh? No, not on, you don't have to go on tour, but, you know, you keep going back to, you know, an episode with Drake, why not? Somebody's behind his girl's pocket.

I always said it. I always said, who is this girl, who's her family, somebody's behind this podcast. I texted someone. I'm not snitching because he didn't give me any information. extension. But I hit somebody over at WME because that's who represents her when the shit got deleted. And he said he walked in the office and asked the same question. Like, all right, what's the, what's the real reason? And everyone in WME was like, oh, we don't know. You're right. Yeah, I know. You talk to your client this point. Yeah, yeah. Don't tell me otherwise. Don't lie to my face like that.

Yeah, don't do that. We're not doing that. But hey, he held it down for WME. No, I respect that. I respect holding it down. Don't let nothing out of the building. You know, continue to do what y'all do over there. But no, I had to be messy. This month over here at New Roy and Mall, we're doing a special series of episodes to celebrate 50 years of hip-hop. Mall, we wouldn't even be podcasting it wasn't for hip-hop. I don't know if we would be born without it. We wouldn't be sitting here if it wasn't for hip-hop, so it's extremely important to us to sit and take some time to really celebrate and reflect what hip-hop is done for us for the last 50 years. But we couldn't have done that without our friends over at eBay.

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Everyone deserves real. Visit eBay.com for terms. Here to celebrate 50 years of hip-hop. We sat down with the legendary Shari Bryant, president of Rock Nation. Enjoy it now. Because a lot of people don't know. You had a major part of the whole dream chasers taking off with Meek. worked with Ross, how much of that do you still see like, and you like, okay, my DNA is still

there? Yeah. And the. With as far as Gene Jace is MMG. Yeah. So what's crazy is that I felt like what we learned at Rockefeller, I just kind of like reapplied to MMG when, you know, when I got the chance to work with Ross. And we did, we applied the same thing.

It was about the camaraderie. It was about leveraging each artist against each other. It was about, you know, just making sure that one artist didn't feel bigger than the other. And then we just kind of like approach things as a unit. And it worked, right? It was like the same. I always tell people, the blueprint is there. It's just as much as you're going to follow it, right?

But it takes a lot of dimming down the ego and being like, you know, operating as one. So it was, and Ross, I always give credit to Ross. he was an amazing leader in a sense of he wanted all of them to win, you know, because it takes that person to like really truly want it and not appear like you want it for it to work. And he was amazing with that. I mean, there was nothing that we couldn't ask of him to leverage his brand to help his, to help MMG.

You know what I mean? And that was a big part of why it worked. And I mean, how much of it do I see today? we they're all you know walae's in a much different place than he was when we signed when you know we had originally signed him we meet became like you know a household name um and i do attribute that to like the foundation that we laid absolutely and even to backtrack a little before that and in no way do i want to get in any to rockefella breakup mess just more personally your view of being you in a system for so long and now that system is done. Yeah. Mm-hmm.

How did you feel personally outside of any breakup mess? Like you personally sitting there like, all right, I've been in the system since I'm 15, 16. Yeah. What the fuck? How do you navigate through that? It was nerve-wracking. Yeah. It was because as much as I felt like I knew what I was doing, it was still different to

have to go out in the world and not have that comfort anymore. You know what I mean? And I didn't realize that because I was like really proud and like, oh, I had done a lot. But it was a reality setting moment once I had to go out there in a real world. Because I mean, you know, it felt

again, it felt like home. So leaving home is, you know, always scary. And so that took an adjustment for sure. And then I also felt like because I was so young, because I was still young when Rockefeller kind of broke up, I felt I had to reprove myself. You know what I mean?

Like I felt like people thought I was protected and that it wasn't really to work. It was the protection of demon and, you know. And so I had to go out there and really kind of like do it all over again. I had to go be an assistant after I was already a marketing director. Yeah. Kind of at Rockefeller. And that's why I always tell people, don't be afraid to take a step backwards to move forward because sometimes it could set you up for amazing things.

Oh, yeah. You know. We know. But even. Right. Oh, yes. That's also what's like so fucked up about the business and even how they like view joint ventures. Like to call Rockefeller joint venture, I know sounds blasphemous. But at the end of the day, that's what it was.

And how you both have described that environment of why we love Rockefeller. Sounds like it came from the office environment that was there. 100%. And to think and to have the arrogance that once that breaks up all the people that work there, didn't add value and that they don't have anything to offer they need to start from the beginning is fucking insane to me.

Like these people gave you the sauce. Right. They should... Like, you need them. Right. Just because that broke up doesn't mean anything. That was a quick clip of our celebration of 50 years of hip hop sponsored by eBay. Subscribe and stay tuned to our YouTube for the full conversation. YouTube.com

forward slash new Rory in mall. Now back to the episode. Once again, Rory, everything is content. Word. Take what you're giving. Life gives you lemons. Pause. Do you do a video with Usher.

You make key lime pie, right? Okay, Kiki lime pie. Kiki lime pie. See? Ah, okay. So, um, we remember the whole debacle of Kiki Palmer being at Usher's show. Usher's singing to her, serenating her. With her cheeks out.

She had on her dress where, you know, it was a little over view. You saw the cheeks a little bit. You know, it was sexy, sexy dress she had on. Yeah. And her fiance, right? Was it her fiance? Her baby daddy Okay well

They're not married Or weren't married? I think Or engaged she? Nope It was never confirmed Gotcha It's never been confirmed

They never confirmed Kiki Obama never confirmed If she was engaged or not If she People were having rumors That they were married That was never confirmed Okay well her partner

They were just partners Her partner He went to He went to social media To You know voices Distain And I didn't like what DeMeres

It said A father of her child Not her baby daddy Wow Respect meant a little bit more Word You go You don't like, you become a dad.

If you become a dad, certain shit just stings you a little differently now, right? You're the father of your child. Yeah. So her partner went to his social media and, you know, expressed how he was feeling about what she was wearing and he felt it was disrespectful. And then I guess maybe a few days later, they announced a breakup, a split, whatever you want to call it. Fast forward to maybe a month now, a month later. And Kiki Palmer is now in a video.

With Usher. Yeah. Wow. Titled boyfriend. Title boyfriend. Sick. Talk about taking a negative and turn it in into another negative. What?

This is kind of confusing me. And I hope I'm not overreacting. And it could just because I have a different lens on things now. Because you're a father. Because I'm the father of a child. And the baby daddy. Baby daddy just sounds like deadbeatish. A little bit.

Well, that's what it is. No, it's not. Baby daddy? You had you a daddy with a baby. Nah. I'm a father. Yes. Like if I say about baby mama,

it sounds like a little. Yeah, that has a negative. Negative connotation. Baby daddy. Nobody wants to be a baby mama and nobody wants to be a baby daddy. That's the mother of my child.

Yeah. You want to be a father. You want to be a mother. It's only cute like when Jay Z says it about Beyonce. I mean, that's better than sperm donor. That's when you're not even his life. That's when it's like,

yeah. My biological father. You die tomorrow. My 23 and me. there. Nobody would even show up at your funeral at this point. Right. But no, I think this is kind of crazy. If they just broke up, the petty shit is the petty shit. It's kind of funny. Whatever. Get your little bit of petty is okay. It's totally fine. It makes for great entertainment. And you went on Twitter and said all that stuff.

Doing this to the father of your child, though, with the pettiness is a little extreme for me. Maybe it's not as serious as we think it is and they've, you know, reconciled everything and he was fine with it. But when you do the petty games, it's fine when you're just exes. When you have to co-parent and you're doing petty shit directly taking shots in front of the whole world with Usher against your ex and father of your child, I think it's fucking crazy. That makes co-parenting way more difficult. Well, here's the thing. You got to remember, keep in context, she's an actress. Yeah. Great one. Exactly. Great one. So maybe this is just her way of expressing...

She was singing as Usher. She didn't express anything. Well, I mean, she's an Usher fan. Obviously, she was at the show. She's expressed at Usher. She was a big fan of Usher growing up. I think this was just an opportunity for them to turn a moment that they had together publicly on social media.

Like, let's take it a step further. Let's have fun. Let's shoot a video out, you know, mimic you and some of your older videos and your dance moves. And I mean, she did a great job. She looks great. She's dancing her ass, so she can really. really dance.

I feel you, but no, this doesn't happen unless her ex puts that tweet out. That's her fault. That's his fault. I'm telling you now, like, if that video service of just Kiki Palmer, like, in that outfit, Sting Usher, it was some shit would have happened. What took that to the next level was when her... Outreach. Her partner was like, yo, this is crazy.

Absolutely. Double down on what everyone was saying on the internet. Thank you, if you think Kiki Palmer is playing Usher in a video without her husband, boyfriend, partner doing that. Oh, we wrote it. That's where it's nasty because this wouldn't happen. You're clearly just doing it to spite me. But see, probably out of a podcaster, I'm calling bullshit.

I'm calling bullshit because, no. Kiki would never palm, uh, pod with me. You don't know that. Kiki would never palm you. Hey, or Pong me. You would let Kiki palm you? Uh, hey, hey, relax. Respect, respect to Kiki.

Oh, for sure. I'm calling bullshit because as a podcaster, it's literally your job to make content out of big moments that happen in your real life. I would judge Kiki if she didn't take advantage of this opportunity. Granted, I don't think this is her idea. This is Usher's video. Somebody on Usher's team or him had the idea, wrote the treatment called Kiki, said Kiki, I think that this would be funny for you to do.

Kiki has expressed, even in this tweet right here, that she has always been a huge Usher fan. Yeah, I wanted to be in a minute. All right, you're playing semantics because what you're saying is true, but not in the case at the detriment of co-parenting. Not a few pappy. the papy somewhere is sick behind this shit like of course you're supposed to make a moment

but we don't know but this moment is in the spite they may have made up and they may be for sure well the gossip rags are saying that they are broken up and he's moved on cool that's good for him they're broken up and he's moved on and he's moved on it's been a week oh so yeah this hurts this this thing

it's been more than a week but they were very obviously having issues you don't send that tweet if you guys aren't having issues like worry said when it first happened so you're saying that was that was Kiki's fucking dress Huh? Could have been, yeah.

Oh, like, fuck him. Like, I'm out. Yeah, put him for the dress on. I don't think she planned for that moment to happen, though. That sucks when she goes out in that dress and then also gets serenated by Azure. Yikes. It's a big stint. Oh, man.

But, of course, Damaris, you're supposed to make moments out of stuff and this is funny and all that to the world. But if this was really a big issue, even if it's my ex-partner, I still have to co-parent with them and doing spiteful shit that's going to really trigger them and be and feel like it's disrespectful to them. That makes it hard to fucking co-parent. When you're taking shots at each other publicly. Like I said, I don't think that tweet he did was the smart thing either.

Like, we're family. Let's keep shit in house. We can talk about it. I thought that was corny. But now you're just getting a, we're just going back and forth on public shit. Well, I'm supposed to miss out on a huge opportunity of my life that you hand it down to me because you wanted to be a fucking loser. So I'm-

This is going to come and go. I'm supposed to. This is not going to be the moment you think it's going to be. But I don't even think. she wants it to be a moment. This will be done in two days. She wants us to be. No, I think Usher.

No, no, no, no. I think Usher. Not a bad record, but this is done. Wanted it to be a moment. They both, two things can be true. Usher caught a lick. Of course Usher's going to be like, wait. Wait, Kiki will do the video?

I bet. I think Kiki was living her best. I'm a fucking Usher fan life. Yeah, I don't want my baby moms to be a fan of like that though. You can go to the show, but you can't be in a negative video next month. Oh, come on. It's not that serious. And I feel like that's ridiculous.

She's a actor. She's an actor. She's also a musical artist who has her own career and wants to build up her career. And this is not be sticking up for all women and all of this bullshit. It is. You are. You are. No, what her child's father did was loser shit to begin with.

Let's say they broke up. I'm supposed to watch out for your, you didn't watch out for my feelings when you sent that tweet. When I've been a known, I keep my personal life personal. I've never had drunk. No, he was out of line. You started that whole shit. You been a little too crazy with that. Okay.

Now I'm supposed to look out for your feelings when you didn't look out for mine. This isn't to be spiteful. Again, what you're saying is correct if they were just exes. Yes, she has every right to do this, especially after he did that public shit. But at what cost?

Like, that's where maturity comes in when you have a kid. Like, maybe I just shouldn't do shit even if I'm correct in doing it because I want to have a healthy co-parent relationship. I'm not going to do shit even if I am right in doing it to spite somebody, especially something that clearly triggered them already. That's maturity.

We're hearing any new about. about this that this was going to happen? I think that for sure. I'm pretty sure he knew this is going to happen. Like, the moment when it came with the whole thing with Usher, like in the live show, and then now this is happening, he probably knows, like, I don't think it's that serious. Now, if they didn't have, like, a full talk about this entire shit, I think it's super fucked up. I really, and I can see where it's kind of corny only because at the end of the day that he's

going to get some slack over that, too. They're going to make fun of his ass. Everybody's going to make fun of his ass for the fact that she's doing the whole Usher video and shit like i don't give a fuck about the people on the internet to be making fun of like no like i'm mad i would be mad at my ex part like really like that was already a terrible thing that broke us up even though i'm sure there was mad of the shit and that was just the last straw but you're then going to go and do the video i don't think doing the video is that crazy that i mean too but like i'm sensitive so you know but that's the thing you're no longer my partner

i don't care about you're all right uh you no i'm just saying you're no shut up shut Just shut. I know you didn't just say that. Put up and shut. I know you didn't just say that. We can go back to hoodie gate right now if you want to go back to hoodie gate. Oh, wow, wow. Subscribe to our Patreon.

Yeah, Patreon. And look at you stuffing them right now with that hoodie on. You want to go back to hoodie gate because we're that hoodie going to be in three weeks. Mm. Yeah. All right. So that's not. Because if it was reverse, if this was Karecia and your baby daddy was an extra in

Kereisha video and Kereisha was dancing with him and grinding on him, you would feel some type of way at home. You would be tight here. No, I would not. Oh, shit. All right. You know what I'm saying? Why y'all don't do that?

And subscribe to our Patreon to listen to Pudy Gate about Tamaris and her ex-old. Yes, I'm no longer allowed to talk about that. It's on parlor. You no longer allowed to talk about it. Yeah, I made a promise that I can no longer talk about. Oh, look at you respecting even though they're an ex-partner just wishes to make a healthier relationship. And y'all ain't even got no kids. If Usher told me to talk about it, I don't know.

Oh, if it's a thing. You'll talk about it. Yes. Oh, okay. All right. I can understand if it was Ti-I but Usher? Why T. Where did you land on T-I-I-B?

Boondocks, the Boondocks reference? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah, that's funny. It took me a while. What a man. Like, you got to pull references that we'll, like, get off the top. How can you not get that off the top? Because it ain't really on our brain like that.

Also, pause? Hey, boondocks at the moment. Yeah. But anyway, we can agree to disagree whether Kiki was wrong or not. Well, if the tables were reversed, if that was, you know, your baby father in a video of or, you know, whoever the young, hot girl is right now, you would feel some type of way. Okay, but I'm not saying he doesn't have the right to feel some type of way. type of way, I'm saying why should my decisions be based on you feeling some type of way?

Because we have a family. I'm not saying he's wrong for feeling some type of family. Yeah, you guys have a kid together. We have a child together. Yeah. That's what this whole thing stemmed from is the fact that he was upset that she wore what she wore because she's a mom. She's a mom.

Yeah. Two wrongs don't make it right is what I mean. Now his approach, don't get me to him going to social media with all that I thought was like unnecessarily. You can just talk with your, with your partner when she gets home. Like you don't have to. Yeah, he was stupid, Courtney for that way. I didn't think that was really sorry.

But, you know, people hand things differently. Either way. It's a cool moment, I guess. It's dope. That's nice. What do you all think about the song? If Bobby beat, did Kiki Beat? No.

No. We've already discussed that Ushu is worth. Never mind. Trying to have a messy podcast. I'm sorry. I should have. We're about to go on vacation. Let's just leave with some mess.

I know. And come back to some mess to clean up. Yeah, exactly. I'm sure. I'll be in the Bahamas with no Wi-Fi. Yeah, good for you. World just burning. So what do y'all think about Usher song?

It's all. It's cool. It's cool. It's cool. It's cool. It's cool, Bob. It is. It's cool.

It's just, I'm not trying to be safe here. It's just cool. It's cool. You think they're playing that around Kiki's baby daddy? Probably. I hope not.

Oh, at the moment you walk in the club, they're playing that. That's what I'm saying. If you're his real friend, that's where I think it gets fucked up. Like, if your real friend,

you pull up in front of his crib to pick him up and have that plane. Oh, 100%. Yeah. Your friend could do that, but not some random dude in the club. Oh, no. I know.

I mean, you can't do that. You can't do that if Kiki's baby father walks into the club. No, not to the club. You got to fight the DJ. Yeah. I've seen a lot of DJs do some bold shit with artists that were... Like what?

I've seen people play 50 records around Jha. Oh. I thought that was like, all right. Like, they were DJs of the culture? Like, and he's right there. I just saw, what was that a few weeks ago? A DJ in Miami played at Gunplay's birthday played 50s music. Just crazy.

And Gunplay started flipping that shit upside. I'll kill everyone. in this motherfucker That's pretty much You heard somebody in the video Like yo I'm about to bounce You know gunplay was in there going crazy But I didn't understand

Like cocaine gunplay No but like when you get the full story He played about Three 50 records So it was in back to back It's like bro you know what you're doing Like now you're playing games Like don't do that

You can't play 50 records Why Gump plays It's Gunnplay's birthday party Oh what the fuck is wrong with him And like He's celebrating his birthday at the club I mean, you playing 50-cent mini-men and I smell pussy and all that's like. And I could understand.

That's not even, and it's Miami. Like, they don't really, they don't play 50 down there. Like, many men doesn't get burn it. Yeah. Like, what are you doing? Like, you don't play that in the club, especially if it's Gumpley's birth. The DJ knew what he was doing. Gunplay was absolutely in the right for flipping that shit up and down and throwing garbage cans.

He was right. I agree. And like, it could maybe an unaware DJ may play like in the club by accident. Like, oh, shit, my bad. But three in a row is an extreme. I smell. Yeah, that's crazy. That's what DJ to play, I Smell Pussy at Gunplay's birthday party.

That's intentional, bro. No, it's fucking wild. That's intentional. I understood Gunplay ready to go to the car and get distracted. Well, I mean, I know it was a side note, but I'm happy Kiki got her childhood moment. That's cool. Her favorite artist. My childhood was destroyed.

Why? Over the past few days. Oh, yeah, I thought about you, Rory. I saw the Vlad interview with Ali from the St. Lunatics. You know Santa Claus is not real? Yeah, I know. I know this is your Santa Claus is not real moment. So Ali did an interview with Vlad and he spoke about the fact that he wrote probably 75 to 80%. 95.

He's, yeah. The number kept going up. I was waiting for him just to be like, listen, I wrote 110% of everything. Yeah, like he basically said he wrote all of Nellie's first album. And if you know Nellie's first album, Country Grandma, one of the biggest hip-hop album. all time. Like so for Ali to say now that he wrote 97% of it. After was a shock.

After Nelly just sold his catalog for what I believe was $50 million. God damn. But we had always heard like the story of Nellie going to shop St. Lunatic's Records and go solo. That was something that like Murphy Lees talked about. That's been around. Yeah. I did not. Of course that's kind of fucked up. But I didn't think like it was that crazy.

if he was writing his verses. If you're shopping the group's music and you didn't even write any of it and then you go solo with our records that we wrote for you, that's pretty fucking foul. Absolutely. That's some foul shit.

It's fucked up. If that's true, because I think Nelly should tell his side. If it's true, I don't think, I mean, I hope Ali wouldn't get up there and lie about writing all this. He doesn't come across as a liar to me. Yeah, like he didn't,

it looked like he didn't have any type of, you know, hate. Yeah, he was saying in the interview that when people were critics when Nelly starts a quote unquote fall off after that double album of like Dan I wish Nellie would go back to the country grammar type shit the Nellieville type shit he's like yeah it's because I stopped it was a clear fall off when I stopped not only picking the beats writing the harmonies getting hooks from Murphy Lee writing his verses yeah things changed like Nellie can write right he just takes a long time forever to write a 16 and I would just come up with

everything and at that point Nellie delivered the shit better than anyone like when I was rapping it, it didn't sound the way Nelly said it, which makes sense. But to not get credited and not get publishing is really where the line is kind of drawn. Yeah. Like if that's the goal for everyone's like, all, Nelly is the one that is marketable. He delivers this shit the best too. Yeah. Like once Nellie gets along, we can all get on.

As long as we get now just do behind the scenes and best is taking care of and we all getting our splits and everything like that. So be it, everything, all that other shit is ego shit. Like if Nelly's the clear cut star, he's the one that's going to, you know, propel this whole thing and get us into these rooms that we ultimately want to be in as creators, artists, writers, whatever, then so be able to get behind them. But if we're not taking care of, if I'm not getting anything for my contributions, this is a completely fucked up situation. Not that we really, anyone has Nelly like on their top 10 greatest emcees of all

time list. It's still a little heartbreaking knowing the impact Nelly has had on hip hop, even into do our hip hop. Of course, you can give rule a lot of credit for the melodic stuff and so on. But that Nelly era kind of pushed us even further into the melodic shit that we're into now. He is a very influential artist, so to

find out he didn't write most of that, it's a little heartbreaking. I mean, well, Nelly... He's not a rapper, rapper like that, but he rap and those melodies fucking changed hip-hop. I'm sure some people... He gets a lot credit for that, and to know that he

just delivered it is yes. Yeah. We can't just shit on Drake and not shit on Nelly. I'm sure there's a lot of people in the Midwest that may have Nelly in their top ten. If you want to go just like impact one of the craziest runs in hip hop history, sales, like, of course, Nelly would definitely be in a top 15 conversation. To me, Nelly was always like the second 2.0 version of like, obviously not probably as dope as an MC, but like he was LL. all over again. Oh, okay.

He was like, you know, he was a rapper, but he became a pop star. Because they both wore Band-Aids? Well, not because they both wore Band-Aids, but it was the style. It was just the style. And aesthetically,

it was some similarities there. And Nellie has spoken to that, that Ella was one of his idols growing up. But, yeah, it was crazy to hear at least talk about that, though. That was shocking to hear that he wrote most of that country gram album. And I feel like had this news dropped,

let's say Nellie's run happened in 2023 where there was like Vlad in interviews like this where people can have a platform to speak about what's going on behind the scenes. This might be bigger than the Drake allegations if it was done in the moment. Like during Nellie's run, this would be crazy because it was even more taboo in the, you know,

mid 2000, early 2000s. That you didn't write. A rapper. not writing his lyrics. Yeah. It's a little different because Drake was not only a pop star, R&B singer. Like, we just, you know, gave him like, we get it. Nelly is considered a rapper, even though he does sing.

Yeah. This would have been twice as big to me of allegations than the Drake thing. Back then if it came out. Yes. This would have been fucking crazy. Yeah. I mean, I still think it's big, though, because, uh, pause, because it, again, it's Nelly. It's one of the biggest albums of all time in hip hop. And again, we didn't,

we didn't know this until Ali said it. Now, again, we've heard things over the years and the St. Ludetics being a whole, you know, conglomerate of artists and writers and helping each other out. But Ali is saying like, nah, fam, I, that, that, those are all my, my bars. Yeah. That's shocking here. And I do want to hear from there. I think Nellie will, I think he has to address this. I don't think he can just, like, let this pad like he has to address this not like Nelly is trying to actively put out I don't know maybe he's not trying to actively put out

any new albums or shit like that but he has to address one of his former closest friends partners uh you know people that was in the room when he was creating coming out and saying yo I wrote or Nelly has to respond to that. If it's true don't address it. If it's not true

address it incorrect but if it's true now that's whack though I think you got to address it either way if it's true or not. It's right yeah but if it's true or not you address it. You don't address it. You don't not address it if it's true. What type of shit is that? You got to address it.

Why do you? Well, no, I don't know, because I don't address lies. So, yeah. But she just said it. You got to let lies go. But she just said address it if it's not true. I don't agree with that. If you're not going to address it if it is true, don't address it if it's not true.

I'm just saying he needs to address it, period. If it's true or not. I will say, I think this is a huge deal because it was such an important part of my life. As far as, like, Vlad. interviews go, this is not as viral as I thought it was going to be. No. So, like, people don't really care. And I swear that's not a shot at Vlad.

It was an incredible interview. I watched every single one of them. It just didn't go viral the way. Maybe that's just the age difference on the internet. It's different. People really don't. They're not, Nelly's name is not heavy in the algorithms right now. They're not checking for him.

Nobody is. He doesn't have any new music out. Nobody cares. We care, but nobody care. When I saw that title, I put in our group chat immediately. and I put my child down. Because that was a very, that was a big part of your childhood.

I was on YouTube, refreshed it. You put your child down. Nelly didn't write 90% of country grand. So you were surprised. I thought, you know, sometimes people put like Vlad thumbnails on like fake videos to get you to click it. I thought it was one of those at first.

And I was like, that says Vlad TV. Vlad's not going to put something out that is going to be like completely false. Like there has to be some credibility. So I sat down and was like, Oh, this is going to be the biggest thing ever. A week past, I've heard no one talk about it besides my friends.

Yeah. Well, again, that's because Nelly, nobody really, again, like Damara said, nobody really cares. And also, I'm not surprised. Are you, you're really, like, surprised about that he wrote so much. I'm surprised. Yes. I'm shocked. I really thought Nellie was in their opinion most of that shit.

95%. Also, because it's not like. It's. And again, this is all based on if Ali is, in fact, telling the truth. Yes. We don't want to just say, you know, he's telling the truth of this is allegedly he's This is what he's saying. And if it is true, that's a shock to me that, that Nelly didn't write most of that.

Yeah. Because it's like- He delivered the fuck out of it, though. I'll tell you that. Hell yeah. He delivered a hell of a product. But the fact that this is hip-hop and when you don't write, there is, you know, we got to call you to court for that. Yeah. And even like when Ali was breaking down country grammar and like all the cities, I think it's the second verse.

Like, it's all the people that he had people in Savannah. Like, that's fucking. That's wild. It's crazy. And he was saying how about that. versus like personal but it's just like no but when he started piece and certain things together like yo this this hook that started the next song i went into and i'm like damn like grill he said the grills concept was his not that that's like some profound concept right but at that time it was yeah that

and people in texas please do not kill me i'm speaking from a mainstream level nellie getting attached to that grills wave um help spread grills across the entire word like i know texas was obviously on that shit before. But that grill song... Well, he paid a... I think Paul Woe was in a video. Yeah, no, no, for sure. It was definitely that.

But to know that, like, that's Ali's idea, wrote it. Like, that was a moment in hip-hop. That was definitely a big moment. And puts, like, Nelly with the... Of course, he didn't start Air Force One's, but that was a huge record.

Like, Nellie... Yeah, we didn't like that. I mean... New Yorkers didn't like that. It was a good song. It was like, it wasn't anything new, though. Yeah, when that song came out, we was like, okay,

we've been wearing... Air Forces forever. Forever. Like, okay, I guess if the Midwest wants to wait them now. No, to be honest, Nelly kind of owes us, especially that $50 million catalog. The inflation. He owes Ali. Word.

The inflation of Uptowns was crazy after that. You could get them shit for $50, $60. They went to like $120. Yeah, it was crazy. Yeah, it was nuts. But this, I don't know. This was heartbreaking to a young woman. I believe Nellie, I think he will respond to them.

I think this is a perfect time for Nelly to kind of get back in that. Nelly got his girl back. He just got 50 M's. Yeah, but you got a-in-shilly. He might make it right behind the scenes, which I hope he does. Yeah, make it right, man. Make it right with the homies, man. Like, that's some nasty shit to have on your jacket walking around for the rest of your life that you did that to the homies, man.

Like, they got to make that right. If they contributed the way Ali's saying he did, you got to take him. I don't respect to make it right once it's on the internet because you had years and years and years to make it right. You know. No, I'll hear of respect that that Yad coming through. Yeah. When that Yid hit Ali, it'll be like, all right, it's all up. From a morality level, like, it's fucked up.

Like, all right, you got caught. So now you have to apologize. It's a fake sorry, but not. Yeah, but once that wire hit though, you're like, all right, it's love. Whatever. Yeah, little 10, 15. I'll take that. It's all love.

What? Thousand? I think just. Yeah, right. Just given, like, some form of a settlement to him. Because I know how messy that would get, especially after spelling your publishing and whatever publishing deal Nellie had to have to rework

all of that would be extremely expensive not just for Nelly but for Ali to get all that publishing back would be fucking crazy then you have to prove it which is really difficult like we're taking his word for it but that doesn't work in court it's fucked up man I just wish you know

just do a settlement give them some right I just why is it so hard for people to just do right business they're greedy and they're also just not well-in-people are stinky as fuck everybody like I think it takes so much more do fucked up business. It takes more out of you. Like you'd be surprised. You'd be surprised. And when you're doing a project or you're

creating something, everybody feels like their, their contribution is the most important. Yep. Right? So just how Drake can sit up here and say, I perform that, so you could never perform that song like that. Or I made that song what it is. Nelly can sit and say, you could never perform this song like me and make it go number one.

It didn't go number one because of what you wrote. It went number one because of the way that I performed it. And Ali can say the opposite. So everybody feels like their contribution. is what made the project. But in theory, that is the point of splits in publishing. There's plenty of people that have written for Beyonce that couldn't come anywhere near how she delivered it, but they got their pub on it.

Is it 50%? No. No. But, you know, because even the bigger artists take more pub for the exact point that you're saying. Like, when you get to a certain status, splits aren't very even anymore. Because, yeah, it's me.

So this is going to make way more money because I'm singing. Right. You have a great argument to maybe take more pub than you typically would deserve as a C-list artist. But the writers still get their shit. Yeah, but country grammar was the first album. Oh, that's, he wasn't nobody. Well, no, not even that. He shopped like bad.

I think he said batter up. A bunch of joints that were on country grammar were recorded in the 90s. And he was shopping them in New York with so, I forgot the manager's name. It's from Harlem. Cool to love. Of course, that somebody from Harlem was behind this. I think, wow. So, yeah, he was shopping their records, which is fucking crazy.

Either way, man, you know, just do right by the homies, man. Like, it's just so, I just feel like it's so much easy to just do the right thing. Well, the status quo makes it easier to fuck people over because it is so common in business. It's regular business practice is to fuck people over. I hate when people say that. I agree. But that unfortunately. Oh, that's part of the business.

No, it's not. It doesn't have to be. No, it's not. No, it's not. It's not part of the business. Well, the person that says that is usually one taking it to the Yeah. Yeah, that's why I hate one.

But as soon as somebody said it, I'm looking at them totally different as part of the business. Oh, no, that's a part of your business. It doesn't have to go that way. Yeah, like, it does not have to go that way. People don't have to get fucked in business. You don't have to do dirty business. You don't have to do shady shit in business.

People do it because they want to do it. They feel like, you know, their ego tells them I can do this and get away with it. Man, I'll say one of the greatest compliment I got this year was from Bink and Sean C. They were like, oh, we were just talking about how easy it is to work with you and how easy the business went. That was the coolest. And by the way, it wasn't hard. Like, it's not hard to do good business. It's not like we had to go above and beyond to make sure everyone got what they deserved.

Everyone just got, we just sat down and was like, bet, all right, cool. When people make business difficult because they want to make business difficult, that's just the bottom line. Business can be very easy because I've seen people do easy business with people that they were either afraid of. Ooh. Or knew some other shit was coming behind doing fucked up shit. Yep. And that's when it gets corny because it's like, oh, you wouldn't have did that to this person, but you do it to that person because you feel like it's not so many severe consequences just coming behind it. Which speaks to a whole other level of corny, but either way.

Or you could just, I mean, the best thing to do is adopt an athlete when they're a child and take the royalty. Now, that is something. That's the best strategy that I've seen. Speaking of being blindsided in business. Got it. In relationships, Michael Orr, who we know was the star player at University of Mississippi. He is the character that the movie Blindside is based on. Have you seen the movie?

Absolutely. It's a great movie. Great movie. Great actor. Sandra Bullock did a great job. Yeah. So it's coming out that Michael Orr now is saying that he was never really adopted. Which is the premise of the movie, essentially.

Which made it a heartwarming. Two beautiful white saviors come in and adopt. His black child. His black kid. He's in so much needs. Right. Come to find out it was a conservatorship. So what is conservative, conservatives are court-appointed individuals who are given the ability

to manage another person's finances and personal affairs. Which is crazy to like not adopt someone but still have that. Insane. That's crazy. Insane. So you don't love me. You just see the future in me. making a lot of money. I can go on to be a star player and you want to have rights and ownership

of me and my money. Well, there was some flack when this movie came out because obviously Michael Orr isn't the only athlete that's gone through this entire thing. We've seen a lot of other athletes who's ranked above LeBron James. Lenny Cook. Lenny Cook was in something similar, but thank God was with a family that let him opt out and go do whatever he wanted. But there is kind of like a market, if you will, for lack of a better term, of boosters at colleges fake adopting kids when they're in need. Yeah. When it comes to athletes. So it feels a little slavish.

Oh, damn. I try to use the word market. No, it's a slave market. Slave market. No, it feels a little slavish. You know, it says we're protecting ourselves because we see. financial gain in the future from this kid? Well, in the movie, at least, the white saviors do take in Michael before he even thinks about

football. They just encourage him to do it. And their whole thing was like, no, we were going to take care of him regardless, but we put him in a school and, like, he's not going to play football. Like, we didn't even know if he'd be good or not. So how the fuck could we adopt this kid assuming that he's going to go to Ole Miss? Well, they saw a kid. He was a big kid. It's a movie.

He was a big kid. They looked at him the same way they used to do the slaves. Oh, my God, bro. Like he could work out in the field for hours. And, you know, that's how they used to do it. They used to say, okay, yeah, he comes from this bloodline. His mother was a hard worker. He's going to be a hard worker.

Same thing. You see a big kid. Like, that kid has some size on him. Let's see if we can kind of give him a nice home and get him into sports and see what he takes to and what he likes and let's push him in that direction. Now, Michael Lord wasn't suggesting that they were, you know, not a loving family, but he did come out and say that they were paid $225,000 each, along with 25% royalties to the rights of his story

that then became the book and the movie. And he hasn't been paid from either. And I mean, of course, Hollywood is Hollywood, so you have to stretch the truth a bit, but he had learning disabilities in the movie when he didn't. But that's just something, I guess, you kind of deal with with Hollywood shit, but if I'm not getting my royalties to my disability,

I was slow. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because now you really treat me like I'm slow. Yeah, exactly. Because now y'all playing me like I'm slow and I know what's going on. Like don't put that in the movie if that ain't what it is. And if you're going to put it in the movie, at least pay me. And, I mean, at the end of the day, as much as it was about that family,

it exploited Michael Orr's, like, blood family. They talked about his mother being on drugs, his father, this, that, his brothers, like his whole projects. You are exploiting my life. Absolutely. Even if you stretch the truth for Hollywood, it's still mine. So now Michael Orr's real family. is saying that this is a shakedown and or no,

the adopted conservatorship family is saying that he was paid from the book and the movie. Okay, he may have been, but was he paid what he was supposed to be paid? I think he's trying to get those royalties. And once he found out that he was not really adopted,

then it's like, well, this whole entire movie is a lie. You've made millions of dollars off of lying about my life. And God did you run me some money for that. Which, by the way, is Hollywood and I don't want to say okay, but part of Hollywood, this whole being able to sell my rights because I was a kid and you are now entitled to them is the real fucked up part of this.

They're going to lie about his life. Sorry, that sucks. Yeah, that's just, it's not like a court thing. Right. This is not a shakedown if he wants royalties back to his life story. Right. A shakedown is when you try to strong arm someone for something you don't deserve. Exactly.

This is not a shakedown. Yeah, no. Give the guys money before he come over there and start tackling all y'all, please. Because that's a big dude. You don't want him to come in the house pissed off mad and just start knocking shit over. Yeah. Pay him his money. It is wild.

Pay him his money. Speaking of being blindsided, once again, Booley Kev was blindsided. Buy a football player. Buy a football player. ESTG was, he did the bootleg cash out the bootleg kev, one of our favorite people. Yeah, front of the show. So Boolet Kev had ESTG on the talk about his upcoming album, I believe Toro, too. Is the name of it?

So he had ESTG on there I fuck with ESTG, love his music But I also know that ESTG is not somebody That is a he's not a very talkative He doesn't want to be interviewed He doesn't have that energy where he's going to sit down And come kick it with you and bust it up Like he just wants to promote his music

Get out of the day and go do what the fuck he want to do So he was on Bullet Cav And I sort of clip the first question cab Now give some context Kav said that ESTG was about two hours later and when he came in he didn't even speak to nobody he just kind of sat down

and just was ready to shoot um sounds like Bobby and Yadi so so so Bole Cove kind of you know how it is when you can kind of feel somebody's vibe like yo

dude ain't really you know what's not the most welcoming the most warm guy right and Bootle Cove did what most like white guys do what it's like you're trying to break that he started talking about porn he said you know Brian

Pumper is. Is that what we do? Yeah, like, y'all just throw porn out there. You know, you make dick jokes and it's like, you all right, whatever. Well, Bull Lake Kev's show, he does ask random questions. That's actually why I enjoy his show so much. It's not the same interview. But he tries to get to know the person away from just their art. Like, when I went on there, we talked about Phoenix hip hop for the first like 40 minutes. Yeah. Shit like that. You got to just talk about random shit and just see where it takes you. So, ESTG wasn't feeling that. And then, you know, Kev started talking about his football past.

ESTG used to play college football or had a promising career. I believe he even went to the combine, I think, something like that. So, you know, Kev was just trying to find ways to fill ESTG out and see where the conversation would go. And, you know, ESTG said, what does that have to do with my album? You know, and Kev said some honesty. He's like, well, I'm a big football fan and I just think it's dope that. you actually were really good in football at one point. But now you're doing your thing in rap.

I think it's a great story. And ESTG wasn't feeling that. Got up, walked out. It's interesting because this is kind of like the reason thing to some degree. Like an unfortunate situation where people could add a cool conversation. Turned into probably better promo than what that regular interview would have been. 100%. This is another moment.

I hope people don't chase these because this was real. The reason thing was real. Don't even hope. People are going to chase these. This is the shit that people do. do. Now everybody's going to get up and walk out. Bobby and Drake and Drake. Yeah, I might get up and walk out of this shit in a minute. I don't know. Fuck yeah. Do it. But yeah, so, so E.C. He was pissed. Don't prove to stop right. And I like what Kev said. Kev was like, you know,

for better or worse, it made for a moment. Yeah. For content. I see both sides here. Kev did put out that I believe allegedly his team gave a brief before that he was really only interested in talking about his music. So if that was a conversation that was had prior to with his team, then if Kev is taking the interview, he should respect that. Or just not take the interview because it's like, I don't know. Yeah, but it's hard. It's, Roy, it's hard to sit down and just grill somebody about their upcoming album.

Like, how many times you're going to ask a rapper, yo, so what was your motivation? What was your- Tell me about the producers. Tell me what was your inspiration. I agree with you. That's why I see both sides, whereas what could be more beneficial to the artist. is people getting to know them because the music interviews rarely promote you more.

It's great for your core fan base to know certain stuff about the music, but part of a press run is to get new fans. Get exposure, hopefully, people that wouldn't typically check for your album, go check it out. And I think the best way to do that

is for people to see your personality. Not just music stuff. I think that's where a lot of artists do fail in press runs is they think they have to come in and act like fucking prints and just be like, put the sunglasses on and be like, this song came to me in a dream. And we're in a different content space now.

That may be worked back in the day when you rarely saw interviews with artists like that. Like you'd have to wait a year for their MTV TRL shit or you'd have to wait for them to go talk to Angie. Like, we are bombarded with artists interviews every fucking day. You have to make yourself more interesting. So I feel, Gio, and it's like, I told you, I just want to talk about the music, but I don't think that's really benefiting you at the end of the day. There should be music stuff there.

But you also have to remember not everyone kind of has their own outlets they go out to. So if you've talked about your NFL career, it could have been on a platform that there's a large fan base that hasn't seen yet. Yeah. I watch Bootleg Kev. So that's a really, I'm going to listen to his music differently now. Like, oh shit, you play linebacker? Well, not only. Now I'm going to look up highlights.

Like everything about you becomes a little bit. bit more interesting. But not only that, when you go on these different platforms, it's different audiences. Yeah. Right. Some of these platforms share audiences, but I'm sure a lot of people that watch Bullitt Cab never heard of ESTG, never heard his music. You go on here, you have a great interview, great episode.

Now people from this platform know who you are. Like, oh, I like this dude. Let me check him out. I think people still check him out after this because he walked out and it's kind of like, oh, the fuck is this dude? Like, he just walked out on Kev's interview like that. Like, that's fucked up. But I mean, again, I understand, you know, ESTG may be on a crazy press run right now.

You know how that shit is. Rory Yutai. You did about five, six interviews already. It's annoying to have to repeat the same shit over and over, but you have to keep in your mind. Unfortunately, this comes with the gig. Yeah. It comes with it. And restaurants are just...

It's a part of it. It's a part of it. And it's a part of it that most artists really don't like to do, especially if you're not the most social person. Like, you don't really want to sit down and talk all day. but, you know, that's what it is. But if you talk about being in the business of selling music, you have to sell who you are as a person, the personality, you have to sell who you are as an artist,

you have to get people to try to buy into your brand, find your brand. This is why you're going on different platforms to expand your brand. But, I mean, I like Kev's approach to it. He said, you know, for better or worse, we made some content out of it. Now, ESTG's response was very different from Kev's response. I mean, we could just go with the last line. Well, no, he said, please don't play with me because I played crazy. I didn't like that, though.

I mean, but if you being honest, if that's who you are, he's like, listen, don't play with me because I don't play, like, if I start playing, it's going to go a different way. I mean. But nobody was playing. I think it's, I think it's a little, I think he went at Kev a little too aggressive like Kev didn't warrant that type of energy. Yeah. But I think, I think what it more so is is that's just a message to like anybody else moving forward

if I go on your platform, like, don't play these viral games with me because I play a different way. But he wasn't playing a viral game. He was trying to. He was. He was. He was. He was up two hours after he left. So what?

That's the game. You're right. But you can't also say that you weren't chasing a viral moment. Like, he didn't do that on purpose, but what I'm not going to post that clip. Like, that's what I'm going to leave with. That's what I'm going to leave with. As Kevin should have. Naturally.

And that's good for both of them at the end of the day. Well, that's why I'm not going to leave. Well, that's what I can have said for better or worse, we got a moment. And I feel like it's up to your team for them to know, okay, like, you need to research these platforms that you're going on. Like, full transparency, we've had artists that turned on our platform because they don't have a fucking personality. So they don't want to come on here and we try to pull a personality out of them. They know that they wouldn't be good for that. They want to go on there and talk about their music.

There's one person I'm still salty about it. I know, I know. I know. I'm not talking about that. I'm salty. He did what he did. I know. I know.

I ain't like that because I really liked him as a person. That's cool. Yeah. Yeah, it was kind of nuts. But we'll save that for Patreon. Yeah. We can talk about that on Patreon. Yeah.

But they know that they won't shine next to us because they have no personality and we have a podcast where we don't just interview. We want you to show your personality. I feel like if you're on my team, if you're on my team, it's your job to know what platforms you should and shouldn't put me on. Bootleg Kev, if you do any research on his platform, you should know that he's not just going to let you get out there and just talk about music. Right. So how are you mad at him for? holding his platform down the way that he has always held his platform down and doing his job the way he's always doing his job.

Well, he probably went up there again, and Rory knows this is what happens sometimes. You send these artists to these podcasts and they might ask their management like, yo, we're just talking about the album. And they'll say, yeah, like, it's just cab, like hip hop head, like, you don't get into the album. You know, they'll kind of say things to kind of like just get you to just agree to do it. And then you go there and he starts bringing a Brian Pump and aliens and shit. like I'm here to talk about my album. Hey, what the fuck? Like, I'm not here to talk about Brian Pumper.

Right. Well, I shit it on the booking agents when the little baby thing happened. I think I'm going to shit on the new wave of PR people now. Because they think their job when they have a client is to get them on as many platforms as possible, which in theory sounds great, right? But if you don't know your client and where they'll shine the best, you're not a good PR person. if your client does not talk, don't book them 60

fucking platforms to go talk because they're going to start looking crazy and people are going to dislike them they're going to come across, even if they're not a bad person, they're going across rude or because artists be in their head, they're quiet.

Yeah. And again, you don't know what artists are going through the human just like everybody else. For sure. EG might have had a fucking terrible night, terrible day, terrible week, you don't know.

PR people just need to know their artists. Like, I feel like they do the plug and play with every single client. Let's try to get them on every single platform, no matter who the artist is, instead of knowing their client and going, eh, breakfast club will work, but this won't work. Oh, maybe we should focus just on the podcast circuit because that's where more the core fan-based shit is. It's the same shit we were talking about with booking agents, not really knowing their clients. And just being able to get a gig doesn't mean it's the right decision.

So, yeah, that falls on the team as well. Well, shout out to bootleg, Kev. Shout out to ESTG album is dropping, I think, this weekend. I hope he doesn't play crazy. No, no. Let's let him do what he do, man. Just leave him alone. But he'll be all right.

So shout out to both of those gentlemen. And I'm excited for the album. Yeah. No, I fuck with ESTG, man. I fuck with him, 4-2, Doug. I don't know what his legal situation is, how much time he has left in his sentence. Or if he got sentenced yet, I don't know. But those are two of the dudes that I really fuck with.

For sure. Do we have voicemails? Let's start with his first one about it, or re-reactive father. Rewan. I'm calling from London and I need your advice, especially Rory as a new dad. Basically, my father comes from really humble beginnings and thank God over time was able to create a company that's done really well. And what that means is my siblings and I probably will never have to worry about money,

nor will our children. It's pretty cool. And I'm extremely, extremely grateful to have been born into this life and all the privileges that affords me. But unfortunately, that comes with a father that's irrational. cruel and weaponizes money any chance he gets. So I'll give a quick example. I have my own job.

I rent my own place here in London. And my dad insisted on buying me a house because he was worried about my security. And again, extremely grateful for that. And then one day, a few months later, I'm working at my job. And he calls me and I couldn't pick up because I was doing a really intense deal. And I couldn't pick up the whole day. and I get back home at 2 a.m. when I'd finished work and all the locks to my house had changed.

Whoa. And he had warned the concierge not to let me in because I didn't pick up one phone call. And he reacts to this extremely to everything. So I don't know. Like, do I just stick with it for my future children? Do I walk away? Okay. Well, that was extreme.

Well, let me, as somebody whose dad was in and out, they like, let me tell you, that ain't so bad. a few days just concierge it's okay just we locked out for a couple of hours it's okay yeah that's nothing it's better than not knowing where your next meal is going to come from well that i mean i think that kind of goes to the nepotism conversations we've had before if the goal is to make sure your kids are all right financially you don't have to struggle the way you struggled etc yeah but then that's the catch-22 of like are they going to be hard to be hard to workers when they get fulfillment if I just give them everything and you do have to teach your kids that grow up in a very privileged situation real life shit or you're doing them a disservice so

I'm not saying I feel her pops but I do understand it to some degree like you didn't have to deal with any real life shit and I'm doing you a disservice when you have to go out to the real world so there needs to be some tough love within nepotism oh no understand that but changing love I'm not say kick your kid out. Change the locks. Because I'd answer my phone while I was at work. That's, no, that's wild. That's an extreme level of control.

I don't think that, but there needs to be some teaching involved in that of like, you know I could just take everything away and you'd have to like fend for yourself. You know, that's how people actually live in the real world. There needs to be. Again, I'm not saying change the fucking locks because you ain't answer a phone call. No, but definitely I understand what you. saying about that. But I think that there's an extreme level of control here. Absolutely. And I think that the only way that your dad is going to ever respect you is for you to have

your own something or your own going on, which is what it sounds like she's doing. She got a job. She said she rents her own place. Right. How did he change the locks on your place? Because I think she said he bought her like a flat or something. Like he bought her something. Hey, yeah. And he was able to do that. Okay. Yeah. That's just an extreme case of wanting to control, you know, wanting to access to you 24 hours. It sounds like that. like he has he's not letting his his baby leave the the nest the nest yeah yeah it's like yo like she has a job she's a grown woman like because she doesn't answer your call while she's at work like she's at work yeah so yeah that's a that's a strange situation to be in but i do think that

you know have the conversation with your dad let him know you know you're your own woman you're grown woman you have your own life going on you appreciate everything that he's done for you and the life that he's created for you but you do want to become your your own person. You do need to, you know, find your own way, find what it is that you're passionate about and that you want to do with your life. He's going to always be your father. That never changes. So, I mean... He's fucking crazy, but I'm just trying to make sense of where the crazy actually comes from. And I think it comes from that place of like, I need you to also be able to handle your own. Rory, I think you're coming from that place because you're a good

person. I don't think her dad is. I don't think her dad is coming from that place. Also, as a person who's been, not to that extreme, but who's been in her situation, there was a point in my life where I wasn't working and I was just running around being a well-off kid using my father's money. And I remember me and him got into an argument one time where I was just, I wasn't being disrespectful. I just was voicing my own opinions and I'm a very opinionated person. And so was he. And he looked at me and said, every single dollar in your bank account is mine. And if I decided to take it from you, you would have nothing. And that. And that, that it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's very belittling and it hurts a lot.

So I understand where she's coming from, where somebody feels that they can control you or control what you do or you can have no say so because they gave you money. I'm super rebellious. So I sit every single dollar back. Like, okay, we can do this because I'm going to say what the fuck I want to say. So now what? Um, but with you, I think you do. And then next week your phone bills do and you was like, Taddy.

Oh, I'm super self-destructive. I'll go poor hungry for my pride. I don't get fuck. I used to run away from home as a kid. I'm poor. I will be poor and eating trash before how far. I might have disrespect me. Ran two blocks to the park.

How far down Fordham Road is going? Right down Fordham Road. My advice from her, my advice for you, sweetheart, is to, like Maul said, make sure you have some shit of your own that he can't take from you. And if he's going to do stuff like that, once best believe he'll do it again. So just always be prepared. Now, I'm not going to say don't take the money. I'll never tell you that. but be prepared and have a conversation with him or make sure that he respects you.

And if he can't respect you, then that might affect you guys as a relationship. I'm willing to bet she doesn't have a boyfriend. Why? Well, why? She can't even not answer her phone at work. You think she can have a boyfriend? I don't. Sounds like her father want to be her boyfriend.

Yikes. Big yikes. I mean, that's a whole other thing. Yeah, just get your own flow. Get your own motion, man. And just tell dad. He'll always be dad. You'll always love him.

but you got to have your own likes. Or play them like a fiddle. You could also play them like a fiddle. Not saying allegedly that I've done that. But you can, okay, this is what you want. You need me to pepper you up. Daddy, daddy, daddy, daddy, daddy. How many fiddles do you play?

Daddy, daddy, daddy. I need you. I need you. Play him like a fiddle. If you want the money that bad, roll your eyes behind his back and do what you got to do to keep that money. Because hold on, as a person who works a job. That's crazy. As a person who works a job, as a person who works a job,

you're going to have to bite your tongue a lot more on your job than you will with your father. So do you want to go have to have a job where you have to bite your tongue for your living? Or do you want to have to bite your tongue to your father for a living? Are you saying these are Lizzo conditions? What are you trying to say about it? Yeah, what the fuck? Why you think I was quiet during a little conversation? I'm just saying.

I'm kidding. I'm kidding. I'm not kidding. They are going to run with that. Yep. We have 10 think pieces on that one. I miss you said, right? Wow.

Wow. Okay. All right. That's the fuck. See? Just trying to make you the problem. See how I agree with him? Can we get the next voicemail?

Yeah, this is the last voicemail. I think you guys would have fun with this one. Ready? Yo, my question is for all the guys. Would you let another man give you direction? Think about it. He's going to tell you where you can and can't go. Is this Dame Dash?

Then you're going to be telling you what you can and can't do. Then you're going to be right. walking your wife and funny. Whoa, what the fuck? A real Adam 22 situation. Uh, okay. I don't know where that last part came from. Calling from a next town?

But yeah. He sounds like niggas got to tell him what to do. He's not he locked up. He said like niggas was telling him what to do. He sent this from the cell. Yeah, that's what it sound like. I will say I'm on his side in 2023. Yeah, like, asking a man directions is crazy.

We got ways. Just fucking use your phone. Yeah. I don't ask anybody for that. We got Google Maps. We got ways. Yeah, like, no, I'm not asking him. for directions.

But going from like, yo, how do I get to Canal to he's fucking my wife? It's crazy. Craziest jump I've ever heard my life. That gentleman is definitely locked.

All you guys say is how he gonna lead you? That nigga don't even know where you going. Boom. Fucking your wife. Boom. I just want you to...

Yo, stop doing this, man. You didn't see the video, did you see the video she was shooting earlier? No? Oh, yeah. We're giving her a lot of shit for that one.

Oh, what did I miss? I'll tell you all fair. Yeah. Okay. That's a page. No, saving for Patreon. Yeah. Everything we're saving for Patreon.

Save it for Patreon. Subscribe now. Yeah. That was funny. This is why Julian can't, like, just leave and not play the voicemails for us at a time. Yeah. Why did he pick that voicemail? I don't know.

Julian is Julian. Yeah, he had a shoot today, you know? All right. He's going to get shot today. Oh, okay. Damn. Free this gentleman until it's backwards out of it. Definitely.

Read him. Definitely from a burner phone in Rikers right now. I hope men aren't giving you directions in there. I hope not, man. But if they are giving you direction, direction. Direct them to our website, New Rory Amort. That's right. We have merch still available.

New Roryamot.com. Patreon, subscribe. Yeah. And we're all headed on vacation now. We're still putting episodes out, so you're not going to miss anything, but we will be gone next week. We'll be gone. We bank some episodes. Maybe until November.

I will be in the fucking Bahamas getting a well-deserved vacation. Getting a tan. Yeah. I'll get burnt. A tan. How long can you stay in the sun? Like, how long, you know you keep a timer? At least like two seconds.

How close is shade? A couple feet away Yeah Oh I mean I could do like 10 15 minutes You gotta like Rotate every 10 minutes Yeah I gotta go back

In the summertime in New York I walk from tree to tree Okay Like if I'm on the sidewalk I'm gonna find where the tree I thought you just love nature I didn't realize No

Because you were like trying to protect yourself It's the race Oh okay The UV rays So it's not nature No It's just okay The sun is my biggest op

Oh got it Imagine me an allergic to earth That's crazy I keep telling you They don't belong here Don't you Don't you get a fucking invented us.

I'm sorry. Huh? You get hay fever. Me? Hey fever? What is hay fever? You're allergic to pollen. Oh yeah, but that's like a...

Nah, you have... You're a pansy too for being allergic to the earth. I didn't say that. I'm not allergic to the earth. I can go outside in the sun and stand there for hours. Now without sneezing. Okay, so... I can't know.

Now, if you cut some grass, I'm fucked up. That's the earth. Yeah, but cutting grass, you're trying to kill me at that point. No, first of all, the sun is a burning fucking star. You can't even deal with dairy. Like, leave me... Wow.

Cows kick your ass. Yeah, they do. But none of us are. The sun is violent. You can't deal with dairy. I better than you. You just like going to take a shit in your stomach hurts. Like that.

I don't like it. It's, I mean, it's quiet time for me. Okay. Well, yeah, I get it. Well, yeah, fuck my stomach up. Let me go sit in the bathroom. Just chugging milk just so I can get away. No matter how I sit on the toilet, my legs go numb.

Here? Same. Here or like overall. No, not here. You, I took one shit here. Now you keep, look. Yeah, I don't know. Yeah.

No. I'm too much when I'm home. That's wild. I don't know what it is. It's like I'd be, I'd be on my phone and my knees would be like in my thigh. How long you be on that toilet for is a real question. Yeah, you'd be there for too long. Maybe you're there for too long.

Maybe like 10, 15 minutes? Nah, bro, you don't got it. That's too long. You got to twist your legs. I mean, twist your ankles in a counterclockwise motion. I'm never. What type of shit is she telling me to do? She's telling to kick your legs on the bowl.

No. What fuck is that? If you twist them, it'll be. Ain't her feet look like in the Wizard of Oz when the house fell on the witch. Yeah, that's funny. It'll circulate the blood in your legs. There's no place like Sarah. There's no place like Binghamton.

There's no place like Binghamton. You hate that you from upstate. Why you hate that you? I love him from upstate. I know you don't. You just tell people who use in Queens. I'm from Queens. I'm from Blackass Queens.

I'm from the town. Wow. I just bigged up upstate. What Queens did to you? He was from Queens. He never, he called you back. I never. Imagine a Queens nigga not called me.

And he was a Brooklyn nigga, but imagine a queen's a nigga. But I imagine a Queens and a guy. Oh, no, they wanted him the same. Yeah, they're right there. Right there. Nah. That's what I'm saying, right? Yeah.

One of the same. Yeah. Pretty much. Well, we're on vacation. I'm so glad I'm not going to see y'all faces. Amen. I'm going to miss Yomi, though. I'm not going to miss any of y'all.

I wonder what Yomi's going to do on her vacation. Oh, you know what Yomi going to do. Yeah, what's Yommy going to do? Take pictures. Oh, okay. Yeah, that's a thing. Yommy actually shook. Yeah, take pictures.

She's going to be somewhere taking some photos. Eddie, you going to be going away? No. You're going to be here? Going away from y'all. Yeah, I'm going to be away from y'all. All right, well, whatever y'all do, have fun. Be blessed. Be safe.

We'll be back soon. Yeah, take a lot of pictures and videos, man, so we can laugh at each other when we get back. We just send stuff to the group chat. For sure. Send some stuff to, well, don't, because you're going to be in Calabell acting up, don't send nothing. Please, just do whatever you. Yeah, the last time I was on vacation, I faced timed, mall and Rory twerking. Yeah, don't do that again.

Yeah, I was against HR. Yeah, don't do that again. New HR that's not allowed. Yeah, HR is, I'm going to call HR tomorrow. We'll be back in a few days to talk to y'all. Y'all be safe. Be blessed. I'm that nigger.

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