New Rory & MAL - Episode 195 | Sexyy Red & Tyler, FYRE Fest II, & It Gets Morbid

Episode Date: August 25, 2023

We’re back from vacation! Well everyone (except Rory) had a vacation. Rory shares how he never made it to the Bahamas, as well as a series of unfortunate events. Meanwhile, Julian was being wholesome with his parents upstate and Eddin was DJing all over the city. Then Demaris, (who’s now sick) but was showing her cheeks in Mexico. However, she wasn’t the only one throwing it back…Tyler The Creator stunted on Sexyy Red. Is Drake releasing his album? (by the time this comes out we’ll know) but we speculate in the meantime. Speaking of music news, Big Billy McFarland is back releasing the first tickets to Fyre Fest II. We might have to do a team trip to the festival. Then we discuss tragic news of the sentencing of the Ohio girl that intentionally drove her car into a wall killing two people. *Trigger Warning* this leads to a conversation about suicidal thoughts. We end with voicemails and get a callback from Spiderman (Cosmo). Tune in as the team returns to the studio fresh off vacation and dives into the culture. Follow The Team:Rory - https://www.instagram.com/thisisrory/Mal - https://www.instagram.com/mal_bytheway/Eddin - https://www.instagram.com/thankyoueddin/Julian - https://www.instagram.com/julian__nicholas/Demaris - https://www.instagram.com/demarisagiscombe/ Merch: https://newrorynmal.com/Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/newrorynmalYouTube Subscribe: https://rb.gy/hk7up Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoicesSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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was a dude playing the guitar? Yes, that shit. I think that shit was like a band-jole. It's the worst shit I've ever seen in my life. Oh, no, I did see that video. When he was playing the banjo. That's not even that type of... He was playing the ukulele?

What was that? Oh, is that a... I'm scared to even... say anything about sexy red again. Because once I said that she wasn't going to be around for a while, I didn't realize the core fan base she had a Drake feature. She was on your ass. No.

My request DMs had death threats. Really? I mean, good for her for having the core fan base, but boy, did they kill me when I told the truth. Yeah. I still stand on it. People send me out who's not. I'm not hating. Kill the truth tellers.

No, I go. Well, we are back from a vacation. Much needed vacation. Good to see y'all, man. Everybody. I think to see us? Not really. I feel like that's just the thing to say.

Oh, I thought so. Yeah, no. That's really the thing, just the thing to say. It's not really good to see you. I'm happy to see you guys. Whatever. I thought so too. I think Edna was the only one.

Don't start this early, oh, please. I can't be happy to see you guys. Don't ever be happy to see me. Why? It's not just you. Don't be selfish. Okay, well, take me out.

It's Rory DeMerez, Edd and you know me. Okay, not me. You aren't a trampoline with children, though, so. Wait, what? And I saw Barbie. we'll get to that eventually How's everyone feeling? Welcome back. Hello everyone. We will never get to that. We are back from vacation. You guys look good. Rory worked on his tan a little bit.

I did not. Nothing was worked. You're charred. Nothing worked? Yeah, nothing worked. DeMaris got a tan. Yes, I do. And she's sick. Julian, you were golfing. Got a haircut. Got a haircut? I actually got a haircut this morning, so it wasn't even on vacation. Look at men's vacations. Got a haircut. I got a haircut back in New York. Simple shit. Got a haircut.

Eddn was our DJing all over the city. As for usual. Right? Yeah. He did the oh-no mix that got him going crazy. Yeah. Different oh-noes. But all right.

Thanks. What was it? The Nina Sky. Oh, no. What's the Nina Sky? Yes. I don't even want to. Yes.

From Nina Sky into what? To the world, that's the TikTok, oh, no. That's not the Neat Sky. Uh-oh, damn. I'm like, who's not. Oh, no. Uh-oh. Let's get that one, right?

Damn. Yeah. And Yomi was, I don't know where Yomi was, but she was playing tennis. He was in Florida. He was in Florida. Okay. Yeah. I didn't know where you, I thought you were somewhere upstate somewhere.

I don't know. Did you go to Montreal? No, I did not. Okay. Virginia instead. Gotcha. Okay. You were in Virginia?

Was it hot? Yes. All right. He was dribbling up in VA? Dribling? Or whatever Hoves says. Oh. I'm like, wait, what is that mean?

No, I get it. No, I wasn't dribbling. I just went to see the fan for a few days and chill out. Okay. Did you work on your tan? That's racist. Can you ask a man that? Did he work on his tan?

Yeah. During vacation? Yeah. I think you can ask a man if he worked on his tan. I don't think you should be watching a man while he works on his tan. I saw over vacation break. A man couldn't even tread water and not drown. So I don't know if anyone saw that on the internet.

I had the worst experience that anyone could ever fucking have. Yes, I was hoping you did. Holy shit. I actually need a vacation now. I need a vacation for the fucking vacation I just had. What happened? Well, first of all, where did you go? Well, I was supposed to go to the Bahamas.

I did not go to the Bahamas. Wait, what? I did not go to the Bahamas. That's why you didn't get a tan. Well, I probably wasn't going to get a tan regardless, even if I went to the Bahamas. But you would have got red a little more. Sexy red. You look like strawberry.

Sexy pink. Look like a pig. Yeah. So I'll start with a new parenting mistakes. Did the wrong paperwork for Amara to lead the States. Yikes. I did land and sea. I didn't know land wasn't flight.

Jesus Christ You're the land man Like when you land Like the land You could have snuck her in the carry on Wait no This is just really happened

I swear to God You know what's the worst week Of my life Wait what I had a 6 a.m. flight Leaving from Norke To the Bahamas direct It was like the first time

Ever I've scheduled like a trip Because you know like I don't I've never really go on vacation Like that Yeah So I was super excited You guys could even hear it in my fucking voice. Yeah.

Even like our RAM radio shit, we did pre-recorded episodes or I'm like, I'm in the Bahamas right now. Yeah. I was setting myself up for failure. I don't know if it's bad karma. I don't know if it's what I deserve. I got to Newark Airport well-rested, well-packed, ready to go. Yeah, everything was ready. I get to Newark Airport, super on time.

Paperwork is completely fucked up. We're good to go except for Amara. I'm like, but she's six months. Like how much paperwork could I fuck up? She's a problem. Like, do you think I'm smuggling something within my child here? Right. They say no.

And I'm like, there's no way around this. I do the Karen thing. What's the mail, Karen? My dad'll have your ass. I do every last thing. I call my father. There's nothing to do with the United Airlines. It still doesn't work.

So I'm like, all right, fuck it. I never get time off. Let's reroute. So I start looking shit up. Even Miami flights. There was nothing direct. I did not know New York. to Miami doesn't exist anymore.

New York to Miami doesn't. Maybe not from Newark. LaGuardia, yeah. I'm telling you on a Friday, there was nothing. Saturday there was some. It was all booked up or it was three different stops. I'm like when I was going to Miami, it was fucking nonstop all the time.

The direct flights sell out really quickly now. So fast. Yeah. And even though it's day of, like I knew they'd be overly priced, but it was like $1,700 for economy to go to Charlotte and then Miami. I'm like, yo, flights have gotten fucking ridiculous. It's crazy, yeah. So I'm like, all right, when I was a kid.

Obama's fault. My dad took me to Key West. Let me do Key West. So I get a flight to Atlanta and then from Atlanta to Key West. Already was kind of a, you know, upsetting thing because I wanted to go to the Bahamas. I'm also with a toddler, not a toddler, a fucking newborn. Right. In the airport for God knows how long.

We get to Key West, land. first thing I see is a podcast fan and says, good to see another black man out here in Key West. I like that guy. That's fucking hilarious.

I like it. Yeah. It's like where did I just land? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Key West, welcome. Good for him. Where did I just land? Luggage lost.

Nah. Don't say that. Luggage lost. All of Amara stuff lost. All divers lost. Everything lost. Amara has no clothes. We have no clothes, nothing.

Oh my God. All your new bounces. That's a, that's a, that should have been to carry out. All your banana bus. I was already feeling away. I'm like,

Key West, and I'm not shitting on Key West. Yeah, but Key West's very much like the, it's not. It's a big difference. And we're thinking like, all right,

maybe because she has the land and sea paperwork, we could get on a ferry and get to the Bahamas. It rained the whole fucking time. Brother was fucking crazy. I'm so sorry. texting me so much.

I was like, why is Roy so active? Yo, this sounds like a fucking terrible movie, man. With a sixth month, oh. Oh my God. So then Saturday rolls around. We know we're not going to the Bahamas. We still no clothes. I'm going on top of that.

You know, like, Key West is like a tourist town. Absolutely. No, it's just, it's okay. I'm sorry. I'm feeling better about it, but. It'll just hit me. Also, I just said you a funny-ass meme like yesterday, so that goes hand in hand. Yeah.

I'm like trying to buy t-shirts for Amara, but Key West is like a tourist town. So I'm paying on top of all the money I'm losing throughout this entire situation. Yeah. To be inside a hotel room in rainy Key West when I should have paid my fucking ass in Jersey City. Oh my God.

It was nice in Jersey. I'm paying $75 per t-shirt for Amara because you know all the baby shit is like gift. There's no like regular price clothes out there. Right. It says try that in a small town on the chest. That was funny. I'm like, all right.

You know what? Fuck it. Let me go dolphin watching. Let me go parrot sailing. Let me try to make something that's fucking true. Make the best of it. There's one nice day. Rolls around 8 o'clock in the morning. The babysitter calls me. Hey, I'm looking at the radar right now because no one checks the weather on your apps in Key West because they're smarter than us. I'm like, no, I'm looking at the app. It says it's going to be 79 and sunny. It's like, I'm looking at the radar, sir. There's a hurricane coming.

All my dolphin trips get fucking canceled. My parisailing gets canceled. I touched the, my feet touched the pool for the first night when we got in at 10.30 at night. I stayed in the hotel room for the entire. Roy quarantine for vacation. And spent 10 grand doing it. Oh, God. Damn, bro.

That's a fuck though. That's a sign. And then, like, didn't cancel one of the babysitters. So now I'm just like, Miki, Amara, just sitting there like talking to the babysitter. in a small-ass hotel. Oh, that's awkward. You hung out with her? We were waiting, because you know

in the islands, even though it's the West, but it's still the islands. Like sometimes shit changes really quickly, and we were trying to be like optimistic about shit. And that's where you fucked up. Bro, it was the work. Damn, bro.

I'm sorry. It was so bad. I feel for you. That just sounds like a fucking nightmare. That showed a piss. Well, did you get some of your money back from like the flight? Fucking United refunded me

and then gave me a fee. for the being refunded. Did you get a luggage? I had to pay $1,000 to get refunded. Did you get your luggage back? Yeah, in Norque when I landed. Wait, hold on, no, no. Did they boost your luggage?

Or did you forget to pick up your luggage in Atlanta and bring it with you to Key West? Why would, wait, what? Yeah, sometimes you have to do it. When you pick my luggage, you don't grab your luggage, they'd take care of it. Yeah, like, not always. When I just landed in Atlanta, I had to pick up my luggage

and hand it back, like, I had to move my own. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, you're talking about, like, you had your... carry on and you and you checked it at the gate? My checked bags, I had to pick up off the belt and take to the other checked place that I was going. Now, this might have been because I was flying internationally. I don't know if Atlanta does that.

It never left Newark. Why would it be in Newark? It never left Newark. That's what you're saying? That's six. It never left Norfolk. Because when you, probably when you canceled the Bahamas thing. But we put the Key West, and then we called every single day

and they were like, it's on the way. Then the next day they were like, oh yeah, it's in Key West. went to the Key West Airport. They were like, we don't have shit. And they were like, no, it's there. I'm like, no, it's not. It never left North. I know I was laughing, but this is getting sad now.

That's a nightmare. I'm sorry, you got to go. That's tough. And then on top of that, I'll make it even worse. Amara, just because I then had to go buy diapers and all that shit. She caught a rash. Aw. And she was having a fucking night.

It was the worst experience ever. I'm so sorry. It was it. No, I did not have a vacation. Oh man, that's... I don't know what I did in the past life. I can't think of something I did in the current life to deserve that week.

But something in a past life, someone put that on you. Yeah, your rising moon must be going through... Well, you know, hurricanes... Hurricane... They start the same, like, path where, like, the slave ships came from, like, Africa. That's not where hurricanes start.

Yeah, I don't know. It starts in the middle of the ocean. But it takes the same path as the slave trade ships. And went to L.A. Well, no, that's what... That shit they had it. Can we talk about that shit? in L.A. People were going crazy for

just rain and maybe some winds. It was a tropical storm. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. That wasn't no. No, it was way more serious to L.A. They also had an earthquake at the same exact time. Swag. Yeah, that's pretty pretty crazy. And they had a tornado warning as well. So they had a hurricane and earthquake and a tornado.

Tornado warnings happen here all the time. Yeah, the only had it was a combination. Yeah, the combination storm. They had some flooding, though. There was some flooding there. They have flooding when it just rains in L.A. Their sewage system is terrible. I have friends saying there were people trying to like panic shop

and they didn't know what to get. They were getting like essential oils and avocados too. LA doesn't know what to do. Yo, but I'm speaking to my people that's in L.A. Is Irwan still going to deliver? Yeah, but I'm speaking talking about LA

they like, bro. That sounds to me. They like, bro, this shit is not that bad. Like this is like, it's not when Atlanta gets half inches snow. Yeah, it's like it's not what people are making it seem on social media. So the first night I was in Key West,

I could not sleep because you know like when you just go through a very tumultuous day you miss your window asleep like just your body is just up Yeah you want a whole different frequency Even though you're exhausted

Everything in your brain Autopilot So I stayed out in the pool area They shut down all the lights And whatever I don't think I was supposed to be there But put my feet in the water and was just chilling

And three people had the same idea And we're sneaking into the pool they were jumping off the thing. I witnessed my first thruple of two guys and one girl. Nice. And it was very uncomfortable. Oh, okay.

Like, they started fucking at the pool? They didn't fuck, but you could clearly see all three of them were together. Together. On vacation. Fire. Like, they were just exceptionally horny? I mean, they were.

Exceptionally. Can you imagine a couple that, like, sneaks into the pool after dark? Mm. Now add another dude. Ugh. That's a lot. Were you that dude?

I don't care about the two. No, I was not, I was just observing, you know, clearly with my vibrant skin. I wasn't part of the highlighter. Were the guys into each other or were they? And into the girl. That's cool. Cool for them. They both had Speedos on, so I assume they were from overseas.

Okay. That's what you assume? That's a good. I assume something else when I see God. Ah, relax. It was very interesting, though. I've never seen a thruple with two men. That's interesting.

Take some balls. That's fine. You had a terrible fucking vacation. Like, let me just put that. Your vacation was terrible. I need a vacation. Oh, damn. That's fucked up, man.

Yeah, that sucks. I was really at home. My parents were like, what does everyone doing? And I was, like, listing everyone's thing. And I was like, Rory's finally taking, like, he never goes on vacation. I was like, I was like big into this up. I was like, I was like, I was not thinking about Rory. I was my time off.

I was so happy for him. It was such a vacation that I did not want to hit anybody. I think you. I was like, yo, I don't want to text nobody. I don't want to like, you know what I'm saying? I was like, it's a real like off the grid. Everybody just go with a separate ways and do whatever they want to do. Well, I was still working.

And then Julian is tagging me in ice cream cone pictures and somebody tagged me on some other and a picture of him on a trampoline. Like, why is he jumping so high? And I said, you know why he's jumping at high. Why, Maul? I can't say it. I was with my niece and my nephew. That's your wings on.

That wings on is hilarious. I'll take it even further. So Monday came and I was like, should we just leave? It was Monday. We should just leave. When did you get there? Friday. And Monday you wait,

should we leave? Because we were trying to like be positive and like trying to maybe go see dolphins and like maybe parasail. Yeah, seattle. I was booking babysitter. Like I was trying to figure out like,

let's make the most of the thing. Booking a babysitter out of town. No, I had booked a nanny already for the Bahamas. I was going to have a vacation. Right. Yeah, not for the whole time,

but just like hours out of day. Yeah, yeah, I get it. They were going to brain tomorrow's hair. Can you? He didn't know God. He definitely didn't know God's plan. See, that's the problem. See, you're not listening to the song the right way.

That's the problem. And he was in Florida. Yeah, right. See, you ain't even do that bad. Monday came. So, couldn't get a flight on Monday. We leave on Tuesday, right? And I'm like, why is this flight from Key West to Charlotte overbooked on a Tuesday?

And I end up sitting next to a flight attendant that's just sitting on the plane. he's not part of the crew. Okay, seat A1. And no, oh, no, no. We were in 30 middle seat. Damn. And he said, oh, you're lucky today. I'm like, am I lucky?

Why is this flight so booked? He said, oh, there was two bird strikes yesterday. Oh, my God. He showed me pictures of both engines on fire as they were taking off during a bird strike. Holy shit. I said this place is cursed. Give me the fuck out of here. I was terrified on the flight to him like,

his karma my karma everyone in his flight's karma is like we're going down it's not beautiful yeah there was two bird strikes they had to he was like they're flying in engines like I'm sorry not flying in driving in like on trucks to rebuild this plane from the day before two bird strikes in one day that's great yeah that just sounds like I don't know man

I don't even know what that was I'm just happy that you're safe welcome back everybody made it back to New York safe the Maris was on the beach showing ass. Oh, I'm in her close friends. As you should. Yeah, showing ass. I actually put the entire crew of my close friends from my family. Yeah, but see, you could put us in close friends, but like, you ain't got to show the ass, though. I was with my

niece and your booty hole was on my phone. You didn't have to look at your, you don't have to look at it. He did not see my ass. Can you say you're full of shit? Literally. Because we started like two episodes ago, I was like, you're going to show out in Mexico. You're like, I'm going with a merry couple with kids. It's going to the calmest trip. You did

not stop shaking your butthole. the entire trip with the married couple. Like we said, you were doing, no, it's not like that. We're bringing a cold. Now you got a cold. She's sick right now. You see what happens when you shake that?

Do you admit you're a liar? Okay. Hold on. Let me, I'm going to say this, and I'm just going to keep it really brief. Do you think that I was doing what I wanted to do? Yes.

Oh my. You can't unconsensually shake ass and post-in your close friends. I'm the leader of the bad bitches. It was like you were like gassing yourself up on the comments. My captives was I'm the leader of the bad bitches. I made all them do this. They're boring old parents. Shake your ass with me.

You were the Lizzo of that group with peer pressure. You were like, get up, bitch. That's crazy. Show us your holes. I can call them right now and they will tell you that they dragged me out of. When I go on vacation, I want to lay and tan. That's all I want to do is get as black as possible and drink. Yeah.

They wanted to be lit. They wanted to go out, all that stuff. I was with somebody for their birthday vacation. So I did what they wanted to do. course I'm going to make the best out of it. Yeah. Yeah, I had a good time on the boat with the girls. That boat day looked like.

The boat day was lit. But yes, I did put all of you on my close friends because I know that you would make fun of me. Oh, no. I just, I saw one video. I was like, you know what? The next time this green ring comes around, I'm not clicking on it. I don't even want to, I don't want to see Damaris's ass again. You got stamina too.

It was like five days in a row. Just the ass shaking. There's a lot of sun out there. But no, women get this extra boost of adrenaline on vacation. Yeah, it's called Casamigos. Yeah, it's called I'm not doing shit. Like I'm fucking tanning and getting drunk the entire time I'm here. But yeah, it's good to see that everybody had a good time.

Your only, your back hand looks great. Excuse me? Yeah, man, so now we're back to talk about the coaching shit that's been going on. It's a lot of shit that's been going on. I will say, though, I think I came out of that experience stronger. No, you didn't. Well, you can only come up, but doesn't kill you. That broke you down.

That's, yeah, now you see how real that is, right? So, Rory, what? No, because as a family unit, like, as a crew, I was proud of us. Yeah. Amara really held on. Like, she really held it down. Because we could have all lost it. Yeah. And it could have got bad.

Yeah. We held it down. We just, we laughed in the face of death throughout that. That's all you can do. That's all you can do. So, Rory, wasn't Hurricane Hillary that you came in the contact with? I don't know. I don't know if it was Hillary, Bill, Biden.

I don't know who. No, because Hillary was the West Coast joint. Okay. So, because Hillary is the reason why L.A. was getting drowned. I was originally supposed to go to Cabo. And five hours before. my flight, somebody told me like, oh, they're having a hurricane over there. And I looked and was like, there was literally a hurricane passing from Cabo into LA. So I had to rebook every single thing.

I lost like, fucking $1,000 going, because I couldn't go to Cabo. And I was like, I don't want to ruin my vacation. Like, it's the only time we have off. And I had to switch it to Cancun. I lost everything. We had pre-booked, like, excursions, flights, hotel. The only thing, money we got back was the hotel. Because the hotel was like, yeah, there's a hurricane coming. Y'all can have your money back. Everybody else. I spent $40 and went upstate. Yeah, I was kind of home. I was at the time.

$40 to get right upstate? Right upstate. I got a manicure. You took the train? Look at you. A DJ should have nice hand. Yeah, we should have. I'm eating ramen noodles till December.

Same. Well, look, man, I'm sorry. Rory, I hate that you went through that. But again, it made the family stronger. Brought you all together. You learned that through tumultuous times, they can hold you down and will hold you down. You know, because it was raining.

I was on my phone actually looking at shit when I was trying to be off it. I see Tyler got a BBL. He's living his best life. What is this? I wanted to be around. Don't put this on Tyler. So Tyler to create it. And, you know, Tyler, he's been known for his wild poses.

This shit, dumb thick. And things like that. So he took a picture with sexy red. It appears that it does cuff a little bit better than red. Look at shadow. Guys, please. Is that Photoshop? No.

No, his pants are just exceptionally tight. He is thick. And he's thick. Tyler the stallion. Well, I think he has his phone in his pocket. You're saying the phone makes that. The phone makes his ass that fat. His phone doesn't curve.

Is that a Galaxy 10? No, I'm thinking it. He's got a curved LGTV. When I saw this on the list, I said, there's no way to talk about this and not just feel nasty. Like, if we're talking about Tyler's pose and everybody's time, he got a BBL or whatever. But, no, Tyler didn't get a fucking BBL.

No, we know he didn't get a BBL. He just got a fat ass. It's so nasty that tongue isn't even like a concern. No. Y'all trust men with fat asses? I haven't really, like, gotten into that like that. Yo, DeMaris, how do you just throw these questions out there? Where do you have?

Like, market research. Men with fat asses? Yo, like, what is that? Like, how do you just throw that out there? Like, yo, you trust me. Well, what man would you have we met that you know to have a fat ass? I can't. If I'm jogging my memory, I can't think I've sat and watched me.

Like, yeah, Duke, Duke got a fat ass. I don't even, that's what I'm like, how are you even ask a question like that? I don't know. Because women, like, I know me personally. I just don't trust men with fat asses. I met a man with a fat ass in Cancun. He was over there trying to act like he's straight, but I caught him dancing the wop.

Are you calling him gay because their asses are fat? He's gay because he danced a wop? He's on vacation. Wait, a man can't have a fat ass? Like, genetically? I have a nice ass. You do not have a fat ass, Julian. What is going on right now?

I'm not saying it's fast. It's not like Tyler's. I mean, he's got something. So men with white hips and like fat asses, y'all trust them. I have the hip set. Yeah, Moll's got birthing hips. But Maul's got birthing hips. But Maul doesn't have a fat ass.

I don't have. have white. I've never looked at his backside. I just... He do be wearing a lot of sweats and hoodies, though. You see it from the front. Yeah, he's definitely has like the baggy look where you can't really tell what he's hiding under there. I'm just like, I know Moll is about to fire every single one without, Rory included. No, I'm just trying to understand how we

got to fat asses, like, Tyler. Y'all pulled up Tyler. Yeah, but like sexy red is in the picture as well, though. Oh, yeah. Oh, okay. Yeah, but one has a significantly better ass than the other. Oh, I mean, I'm just looking at sexy redding that picture. I mean, I get it. Tyler's there. He's there. He's He's Tyler. He's there. He's being Tyler, but I'm not even, I'm not paying attention to the Tyler.

No, he's sad. So y'all, y'all ready to admit that sexy red ain't going nowhere? What does that have to do with this photo? Oh, no, she's going to be around for a little bit. Oh, yeah? You still hate him. He's still hating. What did he say before? Like, she's, she's out of here, like, in a, in a year?

Yeah, yeah. I didn't put the time on her and Ice Spice. No, he put the clock on Ice Spice. He said, whoa, whoa, all right. Now you guys are taking everything. We've been out of the social clip. I said, did the clock? start when she did deli when it's the same

shit over and over. Did the clock start, I was asking. Not because that's a bobby. With Sexy Red, I'm saying officially and before that, that the clock is on already. I didn't say what Ice Spice the clock was on already. I'm just asking if maybe it's looking that way. With Sexy Red, if you call that Hayton,

I'll take it. I'm not a, I don't want to see the girl fail. I just think the clock is on. Well, the one thing we do know is that she is quickly becoming everyone's favorite. She's in pictures with all of the favorites at this point. I agree. She's the hottest shit

hottest shit right now. She had made Jason Tatum look uncomfortable and that was funny. I saw that Dirk tweeted that he's about to do his feature to run and went right to sexy red. But this is also the cycle of, and I'm not Tyler doesn't need this per se.

But there's the cycle of the hot artist having to go to the current artist that's hot at the moment to take some of their current relevance. But that's why But how long does that even last for that person? Yeah. But that's the thing, though. A lot of the times, you know, people do these songs with artists that are heavy in the algorithms and they're being searched the most.

And then they say, oh, let's do a record because it's all about clicks and downloads. And if your name is popular and hot right now, they're going to run and click that. But my thing will always come down to, is the music going to be good, though? I don't care if you're doing a song with somebody because they're popular. They're all over the algorithms. they're all over social media right now, is the music going to be good? With sexy red, I don't think we have,

she has good songs out. She has some good songs that people are loving. So I don't know, if you say the clock is on, I don't know because we got to see if she's able to keep delivering with these features. And I'm saying that type of music and that type of strategy

with single driven, moment driven stuff, the clock is always on. So I don't think I'm hating when I say the clock is fucking on. I think it's great. great that she's on Drake's tour getting all those looks. She has a great two records out that are fired. She brings the women out.

I know it comes across as hating. It's not. It's just not a factual thing. Got you. I think Dirk wanted to do a feature is great. I think her chilling with Tyler is cool. All moments for Instagram. Clock is still fucking on.

No, I understand. Ski-E is a great fucking song. The A.K.A.s are going to stroll away to that shit. She may end up, I think she tweeted out that she's on Drake's next project. Like, she's going to have her moments. I'm not saying tomorrow it's over for sexy red. Right. But this strategy, the clock is fucking on every time when you have this type of strategy.

Are you referring to music-wise or just period? Because any single driven, ignorant, driven records are- clock is on someone's career. What do you mean by that? Because everybody said that the clock was on for like, let's say the city girls, right, a long time ago. They said that they wouldn't last. And Carisha went and turned that into a whole different avenue of money.

Are you seeing what I'm saying? So do you think the clock is on for her musically? You answered the question here. The clock was on for City Girls. Even though City Girls were putting out actual projects that people like, they weren't single chasing or moment chasing. Matter of fact, this is the first time I think the City Girls are really getting the moment, quote unquote moments on Instagram. They were really putting out projects for years.

I don't even put the City Girls in that category. She's moment driven, single driven. That is a clock. City Girls actually put a lot of work in. And then Carisha clearly, you know, number seven. All right. Get over it. Well deserved.

Well deserve. You know, I've transferred into other avenues. Even with the free JT shit, like they have found a way to sustain everything that they were doing. I'm not saying sexy red can't do that. But we're not just going to say she can without evidence. The evidence. Yeah. Of course.

Yeah. We just have to continue to just watch. And like I said, she's so far so good. She got some good singles, good sons. songs out. She's popular amongst all of the big stars right now, big artists. And to be honest, it's she has a better shot because she's a woman. I think for the men that chase the moments in the singles, it's a shorter clock right now. Oh, of course.

Yeah, because men know the poor men. It's a way shorter clock. Yeah, you look nasty as a man doing shit like that. It's like, yo, get out of it. Get this weirdo out of my dressing room. With sexy red, it's like, oh, I fuck with Shottie. Like, take a picture of her. Get this weirdo out of my dressing. And she seems to have really cool energy. She seems to be a real genuine person. that's where I think her value really lies rather than the actual music.

So if she can transfer that into another career, cool. But that doesn't mean that the clock is not on right now. Oh, no, for sure. I think she also has like a different, I think she is creating a different loyal fan base demographic, if that makes sense. Like, I think she's getting some people who may not have, that may not be a loyal fan base to anybody else. I think the hood, hood, hood, like cartoon pajama pants wearing bitches to school.

I think she's making a loyal fan base out of them when they might not be a loyal fan to anybody else. Because they don't see themselves in anybody. Yeah, yes. No, I feel that. No, she definitely has that. I think she has a lot working in her favor only because she still has the advantage

where she can literally rebrand herself. She can tone it down. She can start putting on some nice dresses and completely change her aesthetic and have everybody like, oh shit, sexy red look. Sexy. Like, she looked good. Like, she still has that in her back pocket for it.

Right now, she's still the new girl on the block, the ratchet look, the, you know, she's still giving you that. But when she decides to hit that switch and go from that to looking sexy, that could be a whole other depth of airfo. I don't think that she does that. I think if she does that, she loses her loyal family. No. I think if she sticks. to who she is. No.

Because you might... It's the Cardi blueprint. But see that, but this is the thing. Sexy Red is more ratchet than Cardi. Cardi was always going to switch and become who Cardi is. That was always Cardi's goal. Cardi always saw herself doing that. You don't think that's sexy Red's goal?

No, I don't think that's her goal. It could be eventually, though. It could be. He's in different rooms. Having different experiences. That could happen. I think her strength is in staying who she is. That loyal fan base that we were just talking about building, I think the strength is.

Yeah, but your fan base that you're, has to grow with you at some point. Your fan base, everybody's not going to be 22, 23, 24 years old forever. You know, ratchet girls become classy women. It can happen. But if she stays like the actual prescription glasses

sexy red through that transition, that's where I think she keeps that core fan base. Yeah. Like staying herself, because I agree with Demarest, that that type of hood girl, I don't think they have someone to really attach themselves to, right?

They don't see themselves in Cardi anymore. Yeah. She definitely has cartoon pajamas. That's like the perfect example. of the type of girl that I know loves sexy red. So when I say clock is on, I know it sounds like it's disrespectful. It's not. I don't know what you mean.

It's not disrespectful. We're watching. This month over here at New Roy and Mall, we're doing a special series of episodes to celebrate 50 years of hip-hop. Mall, we wouldn't even be podcasting it wasn't for hip-hop. I don't know if we would be born without it. We wouldn't be sitting here if it wasn't for hip-hop, so it's extremely important to us to sit and take some time to really celebrate

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50 years of hip-hop. Celebration continues right now with the legendary track masters. You heard. Will Smith getting jiggy with it. Oh, my God. Another small record. All right.

So one day, this is funny. One day, we meet Will. We like, yo, we like this guy. We think that he's going to brick us and we're going to be finished after this project. But when we met him, we was like, yo, this guy is so nice. Like, how can I say no to him? And he comes in. He knows he's corny.

He's like, yo, bro, I'm. I'm no cornyest guy in the world. But I promise you, I'm not going to let y'all down. It's just going to be a thing. I respect that. Right. So we was just like, all right, so we'll catch a break. We'll take that.

We go in. I know, right? We go in, we do the entire project in two weeks. Right? So I go home. I find the nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah. And I was like, oh, this shit sounds dope. let me just use this.

And then I find the greatest dance of loop and I flip it and I put it on because I was DJ and I, oh, yes, this going to work. Bring it to the studio and me and this guy are in the other room and I say, Will, you're going to do this and you're going to move your hands like this and you're going to say, get in jigger with it. That's all I want you to say. And me and him doing the dance looking like morons. Before TikTok.

Before TikTok. Doing the dance looking like morons. And he's like getting jiggered in. So he's doing that. And then, um, Naz comes in. And Naz starts pinning the song from. And it's crazy. Him and Tome just went in.

And it just came up, a small record. None too quick. It wasn't, it wasn't identified as a single yet. It was just, it was just another record that we did for the project. Okay. Uh, J. Z. Maya Best of Me remix. Oh, no. Oh, no.

No. No. No. And how does Kis feel about that to this? Word. And as whole regret his stance that he took. That record came about. Obviously, Steve was the A&R.

And then his scope at the time you and Meyer. He wanted to do a remix. Went in, flipped it, you know. Flip the remix. Flip the track. And the only thing I can remember is that just, Easy didn't want to do the record. Yeah.

And we chased Jay to Chicago and ultimately, L.A., I think he laid his verse. He just didn't want to do it. And I think the reason was when we played the record, he came into the hit factory. Maya was there. We came into the record. When he walked in, Maya didn't really give him, oh, shit, hold his head, you know. She was more like, I guess a brat, so to speak. You know, like.

But she's reserved. That's just how she is. She's just real cool. And then I know Jay was like with style, like, she don't know she's about to get a hit record. I hear Jay saying that. And he spit four bars to stout, you know, on how it would. the record would sound, but he wouldn't put the verse down.

And he left. So then... Now Stout had to sell it. So now Stout has to go get the record. Yeah. And Jay just kind of... He did it for Stout at the end of the day, you know. But I think that's the best memory that comes to play, you know,

chasing Jay around and get that verse. And her management not wanting the song? They didn't want the song? What? How she fired them. What the fuck? That was a quick clip of our celebration of 50 years of hip hop sponsored by eBay. Subscribe and stay tuned to our YouTube for the full conversation.

YouTube.com forward slash new Rory and mall. Now back to the episode. Well, allegedly the clock is on for the Drake album for all the dogs. It's rumored to be coming out tonight at midnight. We're recording this on Thursday, August 24th. So yes, for all the dogs is rumored to be dropping. I don't know if we get it tonight. I don't know.

It just doesn't feel like we're going to get this album tonight. I'm with you. It's just not. It's just something just doesn't feel, it doesn't feel like, yo, Drake album is happening tonight. And even though he's on the road, I feel like he's bringing up. Which is another weird thing for me. But he would, he'd bring it up on the road, I feel like. On the last three shows, I feel like we would have seen at least Drake giving hints outside of me.

He has been. Yo, but I just don't, to me, an artist like, Drake dropping a new album while he's currently on the road? I just don't know because now fans are going to listen to the album. They're going to probably come to the show anticipating that you're going to perform some of these newer records. Then the cities you already did, they didn't get those records. No, he's definitely putting this out while he's on the road until October.

He's already putting out the album cover. This shit is coming out soon. I just don't know if it's coming out tonight. Well, Amazon. I mean, we only, what, eight weeks from October? Yeah, but Amazon music posted about it and said, and they also put the date. They, they leaked to the date, so to speak. So that was like a big rumor.

And then people were just, you know, tracing other things that led to this date and looking at the scope of who's dropping. It's a pretty clear pathway. Not that Drake needs a clear pathway. He can drop whenever. It's a clear one. But it's wide open. Drake is a good friend to his friends that are artists.

He never steps on their releases. So, and then if you look at his last. solo project surprise his last her loss is different that's 21 that was a big moment so my honestly never mind honest never mind was a surprise yeah but even even then though that day we we knew we were getting the album that night like you just knew it was like oh no he said it he posts on instagram yeah drank album tonight but but but did he didn't do that yet with this project well i think with the amazon thing is the interesting part because the rumor even if it is a rumor it will be amazon exclusive if it comes out to me.

That kind of threw me off because he's had such a long relationship with Apple Music. Yeah. That him now going over to Amazon, allegedly, is kind of crazy. And maybe that is why the promotion's been a bit different and why Amazon is, quote, unquote, leaking these things. Maybe it's contractually in their hands as far as what can go out week of. Because I could see everyone signing up for Amazon music tonight. I don't see it. What would be a better strategy

if you're having a new partnership with a new DSP? I think they announced minimal promo up until the last point and say the only way to get this is to go on Amazon music

right now, you're getting every impulse buyer you could think of. If you give yourself if he announces this shit on Monday, the amount of people I know like myself

that would be like Like, all right, that shit's going to leak eventually. Give it a few hours. You're not going to get an impulse buyer. If that shit is at midnight and Amazon music, which right here, come on. The shit is coming out tonight. Drizzi Sun is the future as a cover artist. New Drake, August 25th.

We don't know if that's exactly an album or a song, but this does mean at midnight, Amazon music is going to have New Drake. If you get the impulse buyer, people are doing the 30-day trial, 10-day trial, whatever the fuck Amazon music does for trials, you're getting every impulse buyer. That's a perfect strategy. Don't announce it ahead of time. Get every impulse human being

to go, fuck it. Let me open my phone. I'm different when you say that because this is Drake you're talking about. You don't need impulse buyers. No, Amazon music needs it. No, Amazon music needs it. Yeah. Let me sign up for Amazon music. If it's an artist, like not Drake putting out

exclusive to their platform, yeah. Drake puts out an album anywhere. you don't need impulse buys. They are coming to buy. They're going to do whatever it takes to get that fucking out. But if Amazon has the drop on it early or any sort of level of exclusivity, Amazon's market share in the streaming, it's not competing with Spotify and Apple. So by giving Drake a stupid bag, because at the end of it is Amazon, they can do that.

Yeah, they go to the moon. Yeah, literally. So they can afford to give him a ridiculous amount of money. And to Rory's point, incentivize people to join. their platform. Drake will drop anywhere. It's going to go crazy. Same thing he did.

I want to say it was Vues. Which album was that that he did the Apple Music exclusive? Yeah, exactly. I mean, I think it was... And that was, that was when Apple Music was launching when they did Chance,

they did Drake, and I think they did one other artist. Spotify was the main streaming. Apple had endless too. Yeah, but I just feel like if this is the Amazon exclusive, right? I just feel like Amazon... It's a good move.

No, it's a great move on their part, but I just don't... It still doesn't... Something is not... not connected. Something is not adding up with this. It just does not feel like it feels like maybe it was supposed to happen the 25th. And now some things may have changed and it's like, all right, we got to push it back. It does not feel like this album's coming out tonight. Well, it might just be a single that comes out tonight.

But even C, all right, CLB didn't have the craziest rollout and still did more numbers than any other Drake album. If you're reading this, we got the night of. Yeah, but CLB outside of. no platform, though, was it? No. But I'm just saying as far as, like, Drake rollouts. Scorpion and CLB have an asterix because of the push-a-s situation. I think those put them in a weird spot in terms of releases. I'm speaking just streaming.

Scorpion felt like a Drake album was coming out because there was so much promo around it. But we've gotten a surprise Drake albums that didn't feel like they were coming out. CLB, I didn't feel like we're definitely getting this Drake album. hype is crazy and it's streamed better than any Drake up. What a time was a surprise. Yeah, I understand. I just don't know, man. Something just, I don't, it's, this just does not feel like it's. If you're also older things to change. That date, that date, that date, no,

no, no, that date, I feel like that date got thrown out there prematurely and it was kind of like, yo, why would y'all do that? Amazon Music verified is not putting that out without either a song or the album coming out tonight. Right. Something's coming out. Yeah. Well, that's. We'll see. Also, I know you mentioned the touring thing,

but the album was, we do know that the album was been supposed to come out, but he stopped and stepped out the way for thugger. Correct, remember that? Yeah. Also, how did you feel about?

On the run, too, Beyonce and Jay-Z put out a joint album mid-tour. Yeah, mid-tour. Yeah. It's like, it's possible and people, I mean, if they even do a fucking listening session

at the next show for three or four songs with Drake, that's a cool fan experience. to just listen to the album niggas that went to them shows before the album came out going to be hot I wouldn't be mad I mean I want to know so I want to go there

seeing songs that I know no I mean that's obviously yeah but if you can also be there when an artist like Drake's album drops and then now tonight I'm going to the show and he performs new songs that just came out that's a different energy it's like oh shit thanks like

I think that's a great way to also promote it too like yeah he's outside every single night whether it be the club or the show there's gonna be a million clips of people listening to Drake's shit, him talking about it on stage. He don't need that. He don't need that shit means nothing to drink. He don't need to promote anything.

It's still promo at the end of the day. Yeah, but that promo shit don't apply to Drake. Drake could say, yo, my album's coming out in 30 minutes. People are going to fucking dowel. He ain't got a promo, a motherfucking thing. Like, that's just the space that he's in. But we'll see if the album comes out tonight. I like the cover that his son did.

I think that's dope. I think his son may have had some crazy nightmares. Got some demons. But I'm there, too. You can understand it I've had this nightmare before Yeah I drew that as a kid I'm sure It is dope

And his mother's a really talented artist So you know I think it's I like things like this though Like when you make your child A piece of you know your art And what it is that you do for a living Like to me that's dope

shit like that like now when Adonis gets older That's something he could be like Yeah that was like What if he becomes a great artist This was legitimately his first piece It taps in to all the Illuminati side of YouTube. Yeah.

Like there'll be a million fucking think pieces by tomorrow. Of this drawing? Of course. What? Oh. Him and his son already sacrificed somebody. Yeah, people got too much time on their hands. Stupid shit.

But either way, we'll see it for all the dogs. It's out tonight. We do need some new, I feel like new music, though. Victoria Monet drops this Friday, too. Victoria Monet. Shout out to Victoria Monet. Her on My Mama video is, she kind of restored the.

feeling of what videos that will be number one on on MTV. That will be number one on BET 106 and Park. That that that's the type of feel that that video has. It was cool to see even like through the TikTok era where everyone is kind of dancing. It was nice to see a bunch of people try to redo the choreography from a video. Yeah. I haven't seen that in a long time. I've seen like the TikTok dances two records, but the music video choreography and people trying to recreate that like brought me back to like Allia days. Yeah. When we saw, when we saw Victoria at a Made in America,

she was like the artist that we actually got there early the next day. It was like, yo, we want to see her set. That was great. She killed it. She did a great job with her set there. It's just dope to see her. And we spoke to at the BET.

Yeah. The BET Awards. It's dope to see an artist like that that you always knew was dope and talented. Start to get recognized on a bigger scale, bigger level, just because you always saw it there. Like, yo, she's a super amazing. super talented, amazing songwriter, but now being recognized for her performance as well, being an amazing performer.

Videos, I think this sets the tone now moving forward for all of her videos. Like, it has to be to this level or higher. Which is dope for artists to being, like, because now the label will start to open up. Like, you know, listen, we got to go. You already set the precedence. Like, this is next video, we have to hit him with something bigger, something better. so it's dope to see Victoria just evolving into the artist that she is now. Do you think she'll do Fire Fest too?

You know what Billy, with Billy McFarland, you never know. Billy can make anything happen. Yo, Billy can sell it. Billy has the Fall of Dogs album already. He's the only one with it. I think Drake already said he's a dog. He is performing at Fire Festival, too. He already has Drake confirmed.

I saw the wildest headline on the way here. Little Yadi almost crashes his car trying to play for the dogs for his friends. Yeah. So we're just doing anything with headlines now. But Billy McFarlane, we did say that he was going to do a fire festival too, and we did say that people would buy tickets. And I believe that this time this will happen. I believe enough brands will get behind him because he's already proven that he can sell.

He can sell anything. He can sell nothing. For what? Well, he's currently, he's selling, he's still selling nothing. So 100 pre-sale tickets went up. They all slowed out immediately. for 500 to pop with no location, no lineup, no additional information. Mental illness is real.

And the second wave of tickets that are soon to come are going to be worth $800,000 to $800,000 per package. I think it's a pretty good strategy so far. We talked about that if Billy was going to do this, especially coming out of jail, and I'm sure with the stipulations of his parole, if he doesn't have a legit production company behind this, it's not happening. They're using him as the face and as a promotion. So we know this is really going to happen.

This is going to happen. This one, the Fire Festival 2 is going to happen. Did you guys see? Did you guys go to the website? No. No disrespect to Posh VIP because I've used it. That's a Posh. No, they're great.

I love them. I love that shit. But they're like the, for us when we want to do an event, they're perfect to do that. Wait, these stuff is on Posh? So when you click the link, it goes to Posh. I was like, what a perfect marketing. It's like small things and I'm like, this is amazing marketing. whoever is behind it

because it almost makes it look and I don't want to say posh, it's janky because it's not. It's just that anyone can use it for any type of free event. So to see Billy put a link up and it's posh, I know people are like, yo, this is going to be some more

just regular janky shit. I think it's genius marketing. Yeah. It's definitely going to happen this time. 100%. Like he went to jail the last time because it didn't happen. He's definitely going to happen.

He's proven that he can sell anything because there's nothing that's been announced and he's just sold out 100 tickets. So now... But yeah, start light. $100 tickets. He's proving to people like, look, these tickets are going to sell.

You brands might want to jump in on this, get behind this. You artists might want to be here to perform. And it doesn't have to be in a crazy location. Like, he don't have to do it as big as he did. Like, yo, we're going to, you know, some remote island. I feel like he kind of has to.

He says the Caribbean. It's in the Caribbean. It just says the Caribbean doesn't specify where. Is it Key West? Yeah. I was going to say, Roy, maybe you can take your real vacation here. here at the fire festival with billy so y'all'm saying that we shouldn't buy tickets right now and go is what y'all saying you can't sell me nothing as a company like and it's literally he could do our next

vlog there scrolls it's up what's do they have a date there December 6th 2024 yeah damn next year that's what I'm saying you can't sell me nothing wait I didn't even see the date yeah that's what I'm saying is this it's 2024 it's not December 6 2023 no the Caribbean it's 2024 next year Oh, never mind. He just put this up. Aniston, Posh. I take it back. It's not good marketing. He just called a lick. Well, that's what I'm saying? He's just showing... 2024 of December. He's just showing that once again, I could sell nothing to people. They don't even know what they're getting and they're buying it. Like, this is just an eye. I can sell an idea. Now brands are going to be like, okay, this guy has proven that he can sell nothing.

Sick. Let's really get behind this. Like you said, a real production company is going to make sure it comes together. It's going to happen. And I mean, you know, he's crazy, but. And clearly he needs some time to get something together. Oh, yeah. He got to make some calls and get some artists to commit because, you know, a lot of people are still going to try to stay away from him, like, but everything that happened before. But once it's known that he has a real production company behind it

and his thing is really happening, I think that it's going to be a dope event. I would go. Yeah. It's a festival. Why not? It's a festival. As long as you have the right artist and confirmed and bologna and cheese sandwiches and will be there. But I mean, I think that's what he has to lean into.

There has to be a vendor. Yeah. Like just a Fire Fest food vendor that just gives you the loony. Yeah. The merch? He was selling merch already. Oscar Meyer. Yeah, the merch is, there's a lot of merch.

Damn. Do you think this is wild? The merch might be the lick? No, because you got to return the ticket money back, but you don't have to return the merch money. This, to Mall's point, this might be a case of because of, the festival so far out, they might just sell all of these out and then use the money

from these earnings. That's exactly what he's going to pay for. He's like, all right, we'll just bank this. Remember, he said he's paying people? Wait, but how much money do you think he made on 100 tickets for a hundred dollars? He's opening, look at this. These are all tiered. So each, these are all presales. No, it's all coming, but that's how he scammed everyone before. He's what I'm saying? It's the

same proof of concept. Like, he's proven that it works. He can do it. He robbed Peter to to pay Paul the entire time. But, but He got the money. So now it's like, okay, we know we can raise the money. Now let's have the artist actually commit. You have to take your birth control? Yeah, that's what that alarm was for.

But now let's get the artist to actually commit. Let's get the production company to put everything together. Let's make sure this thing really happens. It's a crazy idea. It's a crazy way to go about it. But I think it happens. Look at the disclaimer. Fire Fest 2 date is subject to change pre-events and pop-ups to be announced.

But Fire will host a minimum of four events prior to Firefell. I see the strategy. Yeah. Fire holdings. No, I see it. I think this may actually be a thing. It's going to happen. That might have been worth him sitting down for a little while.

It's going to happen. Listen, we didn't see Billy's vision. This was the plan the whole time. The whole time. I'm going to go sit down for a couple years, come back, stronger than never. I get it. I understand, man. But either way, we'll see what happens with the-Billy.

Send UTA the offer. We'll go par. Yeah, we'll par from the fire festival. We'll make fun of you to your face again. Yeah. That's not what happened. Rory, we laughed in his face. Yeah, you and Julian giggled like...

You guys, I was there. You laughed at his face. I didn't laugh at his face. Rory broke character and laughed, and then I laughed because Rory laughed. Rory laughed in his face. Because you told me that's Billy, and I was like,

I didn't realize that was Billy's laugh. You would say, bah, ha, ha. And it echoed. It was dead quiet in a small hallway. Why he was shooting content? Like, he was like camera. No, no, he was done recording. No, he had a camera on.

Like, oh, he was walking out of recording. That's not content. That is content. But like, you'll be... He's like, when he throws the festival, he'll be like in all the doubters and haters and then pan to you laughing in the hallway. That would be sick. Before we start this segment, trigger warning, we discuss suicide. If you need some help, please dial 9-88 and talk to a specialist.

D' Maris, you ready to argue? Oh, bye. D'Maris here to defend all women, especially this psycho bitch. I'd intentionally crash a car going over 100 miles and now we're into a brick wall, killing her boyfriend at the time and her best friend. It was not her best friend. It was his best friend. Okay, cool. So that changes.

Even worse. Yeah, that makes you much tragic. So while I was in Key West under the covers in the rain, I did see that Demaris tweeted out about this topic. What did she tweet? Because I didn't see it and y'all keep talking about. She started talking about Shorty's frontal lobe. And like all these excuses that don't matter to me.

Her frontal lobe. She was like, she's only. need this age and her back frontal side diagonal lobe and her Achilles heel hasn't healed yet. Uh-huh. So it's fine. She didn't get life. No, she should get life. She knew 15 to life, I think, is probably the fairest thing you could get out of this, no?

15 to life means she'll get some consideration in parole for a little bit. Yeah. Okay. She'll have a meeting. She won't do life in jail, but she's going to do a lot of times. Now, listen, I agree with you. When I sent my tweet out, all I said, was I don't think that she should be in jail for the rest of her life.

I did not mean that she shouldn't get time, that she shouldn't do years and years and years and years of jail. I just mean that this girl was 17 years old, if I'm not mistaken when she committed this crime. I do not think that she should be in jail for the rest of her life. I didn't know that that was such a wild fucking take. She's not in jail for the rest of her life. But I didn't know that.

All I said, I don't think that she should be in jail for the rest of her life. That's all I said. Let's put you on the parole. No, no, no, no, that's not because I think you tied it into, you don't think she should be in jail. Not because of the crime she committed, but because you don't think that her brain is fully developed. It's not that I don't think that her brain is fully developed. Scientifically, her brain is not fully developed. Okay, your brain's not fully developed, I think technically till you're 25.

So she was 23 into this crime? No, she was 17. I'm saying if she was 23 and did this crime, if she was 24. I would request a little bit less leniency if she was 23. That's all I was saying. I still think that the girl should go to fucking jail. I still think that she's a murderer. I'm not sticking up for her.

She should go to jail. But when niggas were coming at me saying, what if it was your family? Yeah. Obviously, if it was my family, I would want Shorty dead. That's not the point. That's why they don't put your family

on the fucking judges stand or your family on the, like, parole. Yeah, but, all right, so here's what you tweeted. You said, hear me out. And I sympathize with the victim's families. But at 19, her frontal lobe isn't even fully developed. To put her in jail for life, I don't know.

All right. If she, uh, I don't feel like that's wild. If she had an addiction or even, which I'm not condoning, had some type of drunk driving accident and killed her boyfriend and friend, I think that's a bit different than someone that intended to do a murder suicide. Who scouted the scene? Who had so much time. She didn't veer off the road.

She didn't have some impulsion where she was just like, fuck this and went through a wall. She scouted the fucking. area. Yeah. And there's her boyfriend who she supposedly loves and her boyfriend's

friend who had nothing to do with anything. She was also cool with allegedly. It's premeditated murder at this point. Oh no, for sure.

Intended murder suicide. Yes. Yeah. Her bitch has living. Let me ask you if you're on the parole board, let's say she does the 15. It's 15 of life.

You have your first parole meeting at that time. What do you ask that person that gives you some type of idea that maybe their frontal lobe is now healed

and she should be let out of Joe. Well, in 15 years her frontal, she was 19 now, she was 17 to happen. I know. I'm saying, I know scientifically. In 15 years, her frontal lobe will be fully developed. But as far as... Get her behind a wheel. Me personally, if I'm on the parole board,

I'm not letting her go with 15 years, maybe 20, 25. That's me. 20, 25 years. Okay, let's see how she was in jail. Let's see how remorse is being shown, I'm not on a parole board or even have those qualifications, so I don't know exactly what those questions would be.

But the main thing I think they look for is remorse and see your growth as a person, see how your history has been with whether you've getting into altercations, in prison, and things like that. Well, she can't drive a car in prison, so we don't know how she would act. I mean, Julian's making a joke

but I kind of feel him because, all right, if she had some altercation or murdered somebody with her hands or with a gun or something, you could see the rage of a human being once they get in a prison if they continue to get into disputes.

It's hard when she planned to drive a car into a wall how that person is going to interact with hand-to-hand combat. And she has been a reformed human being. I would hope that she would get a therapist because this wasn't just a murder. This was, well, it ended up just being a murder. It was intended to be a murder suicide.

So right then and right there, somebody who plans on killing themselves and two other people, most importantly, they planned on killing themselves. There is a mental health. Fuck the frontal lobea developed. There is a mental health issue there.

That's number one. So we need to see if the mental health has been like rehabilitated in those 20, 25 years that I'm talking about. Well, she's going to be, she's going to have a lot of time to get rehabilitated.

She ain't got nothing but time ahead of her, but this is a case of, you know, again, a mentally, a young girl that's going through some mental issues and she wanted to, you know, commit suicide as well as take the life, the lives of her boyfriend and his best friend. So it's a tragic situation, but yes, looking at an on human situation, she obviously needs help, but she does need to go to jail for a long time just so. Number one, you said an example. Like, this is never to be tolerated.

Exactly. That's number one. It's just such a heartless thing to do to just kill innocent people that, you know, if you want to commit suicide and you going through something, then, you know, that's, you know, that's your life. Yeah. Cool. But when you put the lives of others and take the lives of others and along with trying to take yours, you know, that's a whole different issue.

So, yeah, she does need mental help. Hopefully she gets that while she's incarcerated. But again, that doesn't bring back the victims. That doesn't help the pain of the families. No. But, you know, I understand what Demar's saying, like, she definitely, this girl needs help. Let's call a spade a spade. We do not.

We have a prison system. We don't have a rehabilitation system in the United States of America. I agree with you and I don't think it should start with this girl. People get rehabilitated in prison. Through our system or through other inmates.

We're like converting to insom. However, I'm just saying once they're incarcerated, a lot of them do change for the better. But by definition, not what really happens in our prison system. They're saying when it's whatever, whatever,

verse the people in the United States of America. Once they're convicted, the United States, States is supposed to rehabilitate them. That's what's supposed to put them back out in our country. We know for a fact that is not the case. Right. They get rehabilitated maybe just by

the system of prison and people that are within that if they choose to. No one's really being rehabilitated in Rikers fucking island. Let's be honest. No. You actually turn...

Some prisons are better than others. You're actually being turned to something else in Rikers Island. You're being turned to a fucking warrior. Should this girl be the one that starts our therapist's rehabilitation shit? Okay, if we're not doing her specifically, then who do you start with? Because see, this is my thing where everybody was killing.

Somebody that may be in a victim of circumstance and their crimes are not violent based off some wild crazy shit for no fucking reason. Selfish motive. There's a, yeah, a selfish, like, this is some different type of mental health, which I'm not saying cannot be rehabilitated. But why start with her? No, it's not going to start with her. I mean, I'm just saying. No, I know it's not. We're not going to rehabilitate any prison.

No, we're speaking more so to this specific case and this specific person. And the amount of time. She needs mental health aid. She needs to sit and talk with somebody. We had a long talk after the snowfall finale when we were talking about rehabilitation of men that really could have been CEOs of companies but were put in certain situations. It need to be rehabilitated, whether it be fast money, that type of shit. Those people can be rehabilitated.

We choose not to rehabilitate them and put them in shitty situations when they get out of prison where they can't get a real job so they have to go back and do that shit. Changing that is the start of rehabilitation in the prison system. People that are this far gone,

I'm not saying we shouldn't try, but it shouldn't start with her where in 25 years we can go, ah, she seems fine. Fuck that. Why do they get that opportunity? White girl. Well, that's what I'm, yeah.

And not, but not just, yeah, Yes, she's a white girl, but she's also, she was 17 when this happened. It was still in high school. Like she was a high school kid, like high school student. Like, you don't want to, yes, obviously mentally she's in a whole other place. But you don't just say, okay, because she did this crime, there's no hope for her. Throw her in the jail. Let her die there.

Like, you guys are missing my point. I'm not saying that. I'm saying why are we starting with the hope on cases like this? No, I'm not starting with the hope. We're talking hypothetically. Yeah, this is another one of them. But I think she's going to get way more of a consideration come parole time in 20 years than a kid that fucking smoked somebody that was abusing his mom. Of course.

Of course she is. She's a white woman. That is white woman privilege. Duh. But that's not what we're talking about. You agree that this girl should be in jail. I want to ask you direct question. Yes or no.

You believe that this girl should do 70 years and me and jail to the day she does? I'm cool with it. Depends where she's at, but I don't know where she's going to be in 20, 25 years. I don't think prison is going to be the fucking reason for it. I think she's just going to be let out because of the situation of the case, which I think is fucked up, whereas so many other people don't get let out based off the circumstance of their case. I think she's going to be let out. She's not going to be, she may meet with one therapist that is hired by the state that gets paid 30 grand a year,

sees a thousand prisoners a fucking week. Barely gets any time. It'll just be a checklist on paperwork. Parole board will see it. Oh, you went to therapy. Oh, you answered the questions correctly 30 years from now. You're out of here. Cool.

You're free. Whereas so many other situations don't get that same credit. But because it's a car accident and it's mental health and it's all this other shit, yeah, she's going to be let out. And I don't know if she should be let out. She could still be completely fucked up in 30 years. Well, to make clear. Where there's so many prisoners that fucking sold drugs and are not going to get the same

consideration because of mental health that this person may get. But she's, this is the thing though. The judge. Let's not even make it race base even though it's prison, so it has to be. These type of cases get so much more consideration than other violent crimes or drug cases. That's my issue. For sure. If we're going to go across the board with prison system, lock this bitch up for the rest of her life.

And throw the fucking key away. Yeah, mental health's like life's draw four card. Because in 2023, where I'm a big mental health advocate, I just think it gets used. And I think it'll get used and work in this situation. It will. Where a kid, when they were putting the fucking three strike law down or nonviolent drug crimes that people are doing 70 years for, don't get the fucking foredraud card of like,

yo, I have mental health issues. When you know someone that sold that many, that amount of drugs, probably had some too. Yeah, but again, you're talking about a different, this is, again, this was attempted suicide as well. So you're talking about when anybody attempted suicide, that's mental. You know people that have sold that amount of drugs. It's a suicide mission too.

I don't know anybody. Of course. Also, first of all, don't put shit on my jacket. I don't know anybody. I'm Rory Vlad. No, I'm just saying like this is, I understand what you're saying, and you're correct. But because of guidelines in America

and the way the prison system is set up and laws and all of that shit, I'm just saying we have a 17-year-old girl that commits a murder attempted murder suicide because she wanted to kill herself as well. You do have to look at that and say, okay, why is this 17-year-old girl

trying to kill herself as well as two of her friends? I guess I'm just going to the frontal lobe conversation that DeMaris brought up. Why is that not brought up with everything? If a kid in Chicago that's 15 kills another kid

two blocks away from him just because he's born two blocks away from him, Is that not a frontal lobe thing? It can be you. Oh, no, no, no, but let's make this clear, because I'm the one that brought up that in that conversation. I'm going to bring that up. I always consider that when it comes to children or people under the age of 25, 24 committing crimes.

I always think of that. I brought that up. The judge didn't bring that up. For sure. Nobody else bought that up. I was going to say a conversation. And I think I can make way more of a mental health case for the 15-year-old that shoots another 15-year-old two blocks away because he was brainwash.

to think that that person is his enemy, rather than the girl that scouts out a wall, invites her boyfriend and his friend into the car and drives a hundred mile an hour into the wall, that's a way different case that I can't really make more sense of than the kid that was brainwashed to shoot somebody a block away. For sure. That frontal lobe I could make way more sense of.

I told you. This girl has a way bigger problem. We need to start doing what I think they should implement in a lot of these cases, start giving, you know, a lot of these young kids that have been through traumatic situations and kids that kill kids and, you know, kids that attempt suicide. I think a lot of these, we should give them the ayahuasca. I think that's a shaman and let them do that whole ritual and like, you know, just really

have that, that spiritual awakening and really like get to know themselves on a spiritual level on a whole different type of, you know, frequency and just see what that does as far as rehabilitation. They tried that in the prison system in the 70s, I want to say, with LSD. Of course, they were trying it for other reasons, not just rehabilitation. They wanted to see what they were, they were guinea pig. It was more, it was market research, yeah. For sure. But I think there still was, and I don't want to give the U.S. government too much credit,

but I think there was probably some thought in that to let's see what it does to prisoners because it may, it could reform them if you fuck with their brain shit rather than a fucking lobotomy. Right. Let's give them LSD. I do agree. I think outside of therapy, yoga, shrooms, ayahuascas is very important under the right guidance. Oh, yeah, it has to be done right. But I think that that does more than just saying, hey, throw this person in jail for 30 years. Like, I'm like, okay, cool. Like, they can't technically hurt, you know, innocent people. Well, maybe another inmate. But you take them out of society, you put them in prison. to an extent you rehab them because you kind of put them on a program or schedule, whatever, whatever.

But it's still not tapping into the mental. It's still not tapping into the deeper rooted issue of why did your brain send that signal to do that? Like, why was your brain wired that way? And I think we had the technology and the resources to just dig deep at this point in life. But people don't want to spend the money, number one, on people like that. Right? People will be like, why are my tax dollars going toward this? Yeah.

And it poses a question, too. Like, let's say there's a end-all-be-all scientific way to rehabilitate people. How do you explain that to families that are victims of that? Because while I agree, let's rehabilitate people. That's the point. We shouldn't just... It still doesn't bring back your loved ones. We imprison more people than any other country in the entire world.

Yeah. It's fucked up how we think. But if someone does a heinous crime and we can... prove that scientifically we alter their brain that they're no longer a danger to society does that take away all accountability of the things that they've no it's not it's not about taking uh accountability away from from the situation like people should be held accountable which is she's been sentenced to a very long term in prison so she's being held accountable for her actions but i'm just saying like then what you know what i mean like you have we have to start digging deeper

into the mental health issues that a lot of these young kids in this country and the world are walking around with daily so that we prevent this type of thing from happening again, we prevent like you make it, you know,

make it available so kids can get the proper help and not just, you know, sit and talk to somebody like, oh, what are you going through? Like, because you can sit and talk with somebody and bullshit them the whole time you're in the office with them. You know, people say, I go to therapy. Like, yeah, but you can be sitting there bullshit your therapist for an hour and a half.

Your therapist doesn't know. Yeah, Rory does that on a weekly basis. Yeah, so it's... Have you gone back to therapy? Yes. Okay. Are you like that? How's it going?

Did you do from Key West? No, I didn't from... Probably you need... I was going to say, have you had a session? 11 a.m. tomorrow. Reschedule. Usually we do Wednesdays. We go on Friday.

Right. Therapy session? I think we should... All right, if we find a way that we could prove that... Because, of course, criminals are con artists. So that's why that whole parole hearing shit sometimes I'm like you don't think they they conned criminals you don't think they can't call a parole board like this is light work right we should just change the rules because I don't

think like child molesters or rapists should ever get out of prison let's say we agree we could prove that we change their brain and they're no longer a danger to society they should be able to get knocked out legally at any time when they walk outside like at any if we're if we're going to find a way to rehabilitate people certain crimes you should be able to legally knock them clean out on any day when they're free. Yeah, but like, what if you're trying to knock out somebody that got, like, really fight, though? No, I don't think child molesters could fight. No, child molesters.

I mean, look who they're targeting. Yeah, child molesters and rapists should never be set free from. I agree, but if we're going off this theory that maybe we can rehabilitate people and people could. No, not child molesters. I don't want a thousand people on there. Rapists and sexual predators. Okay. Fuck them.

I agree. I don't want them free. We're going off this, this hypothetical. fucking theory that people should be free. Murderers, yeah. Their family should be able to legally knock you out at any moment of the day. But let's keep it on. You just have to walk outside to be accountable for your crimes.

Not a danger anymore. Yeah. That people could just knock you the fuck out. Even on the car shit, though, let's keep it to what that is. Because cars, yes, they're common, but those are fucking weapons. Those are like just a missile that can just, you can hit, blow up, it's a killing machine. I've been quiet in making intermittent jokes because I had an extremely traumatic experience with

my brother, one of my brothers was hit by a drunk driver and left for dead and went to a calma, like had a brain bleed. It was the most traumatic thing of my life. I was living in Chicago at the time. And I all sympathy for anyone that gets behind a wheel like drunk or like makes a decision to hurt other people behind the wheel of a car, zero sympathy. So I think this girl should sit in there for as long as she can or give her the keys to a car and hit another fucking wall. Like I have no sympathy for people that do some fuck shit behind the wheel of a car. Fuck you.

You made that decision to drive. That's mad steps to get behind there. It's not like... This was premeditated. She stoked the scene. She had a plan. She knew exactly what she was going to do. So yeah, so you would say that's a functioning brain. But why? Like, I want to understand why would her brain tell her to do

that? To me, that's how you tap into a different level. It's like, why would you know that. That's why they would never put you on a jury. for a case like this, right? Because you cannot be objective. I can't, no. Not with this car shape.

Okay. So, but that's why you, like, your opinion on this, you are automatically biased. But how does it there, to Mal's question, how does a therapist, I don't care how much school you've had? I'm going to sound ignorant in saying this. How could you tell that a person ever do that? Like, once you find out, once you find out that question as a therapist, I think you you can find out that question why she did it.

I think there is a world where you can find out exactly why her brain told her to do that. Yeah, why didn't you want to live? Why did you want to kill you, like, take your life and your friends? Like, to say you're not, oh, she won't do that again is a wild thought to me. You can't say, yeah, because you wouldn't think that somebody would do that in the first place. So to do it, say, you know, she wouldn't do it again is like, yeah, but she tried it the first time. She already did it. But you can never say, for sure that she would never do it again.

You can say, I think there is a 75%, 90% chance that this is still inside of it. Criminal will never, you know what I'm saying, repeat this type of action or will be a repeat offender. But that's when anything, that's how some murderer can't left out of jail. If you think she may kill herself, it sucks to say this, but you could have a better shot of going, I don't think she's going to do it anymore. Let her go and let her live her life. But she did murder suicide and murder. I'm not taking the chance that she may not try to take more people out with her again. Was it you that said you thought about killing yourself?

For sure. On a few episodes ago? Not a few episodes ago, but I was a soft job. I definitely had to thought. Like every episode. Yeah. Both of us. Like legitimately thought about killing yourself.

I did, but not intentionally. I think you someone was Coke binge at that time. No, like, my thing was, if I die doing Coke, so be it. It wasn't, like, I was, I'm not, I'm too pussy to, like, throw the toaster in the fucking bath and, like, I'm not slitting my wrist. I'm not, I'm trying to make a light of a very serious conversation. But I knew I couldn't go and do an actionable thing. But if I overdose on a drug, what was me? He took the wrong batch.

We'll still feel sorry. He didn't mean it, even though I was like, eh. you know what I mean there's a clear difference no there's a difference yeah just you know got the monkey on my back though maul he was being reckless for his life he was being reckless with his life because he didn't value his life being Rory actively wanted to just be off this earth I felt that way for sure but why though man life um yeah life just looking at my to do list all the things that just wouldn't be there anymore uh voice

I just I'm sorry I know it I know it's like a trigger thing for Roy, you know, I mean, Ma, you know that's kind of like a very deep question task. Yeah. Why? Why didn't you might be here no more? No, because it's a deep question, but it's also a real question because I'm really interested in knowing how somebody brain gets to that. Yeah.

Because granted, you say life, right? Cool. Life gets tough at times. But look back at all the times where life was tough for you and then look at your life after those tough times. Like, I would say rarely suicide is based off a single moment. It's like, to your question, like, why would you think about killing yourself? So rarely, and I don't know this to be a stat, so sorry everyone that is going to look this up and tell me I'm wrong.

Well, they're bad. My experience rarely is it, yo, this just happened, so let me kill myself. Yeah, it's a culmination of things. Yeah, it's a pile up of things. I understand that. So it's hard to answer that question of like, why did you want to do that? Because this happened. That's rarely what it is.

It's, and sometimes nothing happens. It's just a build up of life. And there's also a chemical brain imbalance or how your brain. Exactly. That's also very true. Or how your brain interprets certain things, how it reacts over time. I think if you want to kill yourself, I think you should become like a professional stunt person. Sorry, what?

I don't think that's a career, not an end. But it could be. No. If the stunt goes wrong. No. That's, you think what? So it's like, okay, you jump out of, right? Like, you jump off of a building, right?

Mall. But you don't die. You get paid for it. So it's like, but you're missing the entire point. They don't want to be. But it's kind of like you have because you have. because you're not afraid of death, right? That's not how it works.

The financial gain of jumping off a building and being Tom Cruise's stunt double doesn't outweigh the constant pain of life itself. Getting a check for $1,500 isn't worth the life itself. No, but I feel like if you do stunts, right, it gives you like this boost of like adrenaline

where it's like you forget about killing yourself. It's like, yo, you're like, damn, I don't want to kill myself no more. People that commit suicide have, trouble getting out of bed at the end of the day. Yeah. You think they will have the determination to pull them on a set? To become an official stunt double.

Wait, wait, no, no, no. No, fuck that. You don't think so? Fuck that. For someone that you thought about killing yourself. They can't get out of bed. Like, what if you thought about killing yourself? You think they'd have the motivation to be a stunt double?

But this is the thing, Roy, Maul, I've told you before that. I didn't want to buy a gun, right? Because I don't think that I'm mentally healthy enough to own a gun. Like, seriously, if we even had that conversation. You cocked back a gun. gun that was a revolver. Can you just...

You wouldn't have completed that. You would still be here. It's okay. But go ahead. What I'm saying is, right, I know that that's dangerous. So if I'm at the point where I want to kill myself, you want to put those type of people in situations where it's like, oh, word, I actually now, like, I do this for work.

Like, you know what? Let me just cut this fucking... I'm going to jump off a plane. Let me just cut the bungee before I jump. Now they don't even get the take. They paid me for nothing because on the first take I actually kill my. be a good take. And the thing that

box office. People are that depressed that kill themselves would have that much enthusiasm. You're not, you don't know how depression works.

As a stunt double, you don't have lines, right? You just fucking jump out of like buildings that's blowing up. To Rory's point, most of them are not motivated enough.

They're in like dark rooms. Yeah, like in their room. Yeah, but you're only in a dark room because you're not doing set for time. And also, a lot of motivated people do kill themselves.

But at the same time, like, they're not sitting there waiting for the right gig from SAG. Bordane killed himself. He had the best job in the world. He had the most amazing job. The best job. One of one.

He still ended it all. You think if someone handed him a check to jump off a fucking airplane? Like, hey, bro, you're thinking about it. Flirt with danger, but you can still get paid. Also, like, oh, you could eat the puffer fish that no one can on camera and he dies. Like, yeah. That's just not how suicide works. Andy Bordane would have ate the puffer fish.

He was such a legend, man. I ain't go to lie. His death, Connor, that affected me. And I didn't think it would. Well, that's one of, I think, the most brilliant Chappelle bits. Yeah. Is when he starts to explain the difference of suicide to people. Eddie Bourdain had the greatest job of all time.

It appeared nothing was wrong in his life. And he killed himself. Then he explained a terrible situation of a guy that went to college, got the best job ever, was smoking it, got out the hood, married a girl. everything got taken away from him, went to a foot locker, never even crossed his mind to kill himself. It shows that situations

don't cause suicide, who you are as a person, and your brain chemical is the reason for it. Sometimes not circumstance. Sometimes it's just who the person is. Robin Williams, another one. Right? Yeah. He was battling with some... But they say that a lot, though. They say sometimes the happiest

quote unquote happiest people are the ones that are battling and dealing with so much. It's just, you know, because my, not to get deep, but my grandmother committed suicide. And I always think about, like, just in the, what is the, because the brain is so fascinating.

Like, you have, I don't know how many thoughts you have a day, right? But you have a bunch of thoughts a day. Like, how does your brain get to that out of everything you could have thought of? To me, it's just like, it's, I don't want to say it's a fascinating thing, but it's like I would want to study that. Like how does your brain land on that thought?

Out of anything in the world you could think about. Well, that's like the CTE studies from football players and stuff that lose their shit and kill. Which is why they need to. And they have and they study the brains. Because the brain's a living organism and chemical change can happen. People that take, we watch painkiller. The drugs alter the chemical makeup of your brain. The person that you were on Monday is not the person that you might be a month from there on this, you know, the next Monday.

So it's like you can literally. become a different person and things that you do can bodily can become beyond your control or the person that you once were is no longer the person that's currently there like there's traumatic accidents brain bleeds happen people like shit happens to people the brain is fragile no we only use what is 10% of our brain if there's a whole another 90% functioning without our real control yeah and that's have you ever worked out so much that you literally just need to lay down. Like you, you don't control that. You've ran so much that you just literally, just shutting down. Literally just, exactly. And you just lay the fuck down. I've never, of course,

gone all that way mentally. But to me, that is a representation of suicide within your brain. Of how people get that far of exhaustion within their brain. They physically shut down to any decision making and their brain takes over what they think they should do. And when it comes to working out, you just, you're so exhausted, you just fall over. To me, that's suicide from a brain capacity. Your brain gets so exhausted that it decides it needs to end. Oh, we're taking another vacation. Let's say. Yeah. And I'm, I'm not in that state now at all, but I'm, I'm just, that's what I, you definitely thought about killing yourself in Key West. No, I didn't. Oh my God. He said, that's a good one. He was at the pool. He was at the pool. He saw the thruffle. He said,

you know what? This is where it ends. Right. No, I was so fucked up in front of. frustrated I thought about joining. Damn. Wow, that's... But, uh, Jesus, right? No. It's so much I want to say to that, but I can't.

Lori, please, we're talking about suicide. Oh, man. To Rory's point, one final, we don't need to go down this hill one more. But like, there's the science part of it. And then there's also the social side and culture side of it where our entire news cycle is, it's just the negative, the bad, the how can things get worse? Where are things going to go? When will everything end?

And that is just constantly. piling on onto your personal struggle. It's like, well, the world's fucked anyway. Like, we throw so much negativity out there that it's like, everything's going to end bad anyway. Let me just handle myself. That's, you know. I think I'm like the opposite because I think about like death,

but I think about like, like if I'm on my balcony, I'm smoking, listening to music and shit, I be looking at the ground. Like, if I fell for me, I might survive. Like my brain says that. Not that I'm going to try it, but I don't think that, yo, I would die if I fall off of this. I just don't think about it that way.

That's, I'm sure what suicidal people think as well at certain levels in their building. Could I die here? I'd definitely hit one of those before. I've thought about it. I got to be higher than this because this would just suck. I'd just be paralyzed. Yeah, I always say, I'm like, Dan, out of hurt. I'll be fucked up.

I'm like, Dan. But I'll be like, I'll still be here, though. Like, I'm all right. I could, I could, I can handle that. Lieutenant Dan. I'd probably be dead. I live on like the 17th floor. I'll probably be dead.

You're not surviving. Yeah. But voicemails. Yeah, most smells. Please, yeah. Don't run your car into a wall purposely. Please. Please.

Or do. No. No. Fuck. But just do it by yourself. Like, don't have nobody else on the car. Don't do it. Just don't do it.

I mean, listen, if that's your, listen. If you throw your life. I'm sure the mother two dudes that was in the car. Listen, cool when you buy. I don't, I'm not ready to go. I got shit to do tomorrow. I'm not. And prayers to those families.

I don't want anybody to hear this. I don't know if they're fans of the podcast. I, your families. We do sympathize. It's a fucked up situation. It was from Ohio. Edon's friends in Ohio. My friend is in Ohio.

Yeah. Could have been his house. You have a friend in Ohio? Yeah. Chalka B. L. How is so funny. He used to be there.

I like you. You don't have no friends. Oh, that's sick. So you're DJ. I'm going to do it, Moe. Everybody likes DJs. All right.

And now y'all have depressed Rory. No, I'm, I'm, isn't that one we always? That's survived the Q-Stremp. United Airlines. That's the man. That's the man, Rory Swift.

I know. I mean, United Airlines. Then they sat me about a bathroom. You know what? Fuck it. I'm done. United hit the towers, didn't it? Oh, my God. You see?

I think it was American Airlines and United. It was a couple different. They spreaded it out with the miles. Oh, what was it? They diversified. I mean, was it really planes, though? Hmm. I'll see what you did there.

It's great pod. Voice mails. Let's go. All right. I know is I need whatever speakers they use for that. Great sound. Every time I see that conspiracy theory online, I'm like, Was it Bose? Like what?

Sony? What brand did they use? Sony for sure. Definitely Sony. It was so loud. They had them shit on every building on Fifth Avenue. God. Can y'all?

Stop. That's fucked up. All right. Go ahead, man. I'm sorry. AI, man. Never forget. I'm playing it.

Everybody, I'll keep it short. If y'all weren't working in entertainment and has a work, I'll call it a regular job. What job would you work? If we weren't in entertainment, working a regular job, what job would we work? I actually, funny enough, I actually was going into psychology and therapy.

I'm not even trying to be funny. Like, I actually was about to go into that. This close. Imagine, imagine, imagine, I swear to God. Imagine you ready to kill yourself and you finally find some help and you walk in the room and it's Edding. Oh, God. Come on, man.

Damn. Oh, my God. I would have been a good therapist. Do you think so? Yeah, I'm a Virgo. Do you think so is the funny and shit? I'm a Vergo. What is that? They'd be talking about their depression. And I don't be like, wow, wow, wow, wow. That's crazy.

You should go out this week and listen to Bad Bunny. Yeah. Is that what my personality is to you? I think so, yeah. That's crazy. That's what you would tell. I wasn't in entertainment. Entertainment, is that what you said?

Yeah. If you weren't doing what you're doing now in not something, you're going to. Wow. I don't know. I would probably, I would probably be wanting to do something as far. far as like a sports marketing. Nice. Working with athletes.

Is that still entertainment though? That's adjacent. Yeah. No sports, no music. No, like, no sports, none of that? No, you're just that entertainment. That's not fair.

Well, sports is entertaining. I worked at a label, but I can't say that. I wasn't, yeah, I wasn't going to say anything. I'm going to remix this question. No sports, no music, nothing like that. Like trade jobs. Nothing. So sports isn't.

Oh. Or, which isn't a trade, but same thing. Academia. I would want to do something working with animals. I don't know what capacity. Something worked with animals. Like, I think if you get to hang out with, like, some cool animals every day, like, tigers and shit like that. And, you know, I think that that's a cool idea because you...

Can you imagine? Can you imagine mall was the trainer that Shamu took under the water? Oh, yeah. I'm calling cats. Like, what, like, what is like? No, I'm not fucking... I'm not fucking... Mall in the, the onesie joint?

No, I'm not. I'm not fucking with no animals in water with fish. No, no, I'm not fucking. on no animals in the water. No. Okay. Not doing that. A zookeeper with tigers is fine.

Yeah, I fuck with, I fuck with tigers. A realistic job, Ma. That's not a realistic job. A zookeeper. A zookeeper. No, no, no. We're talking about Maul who has lived a life that Maul has lived.

Yeah, I've worked with animals my whole life. I'm from the Bronx. You're not going to go be no fucking zookeeper. It's fucking lions. Tigers and bears. But to your question, they're like, if you take out all entertainment, what? What do you mean by the life malls lived? No, it doesn't say if you weren't born into entertainment.

It says if you weren't in entertainment right now. So what should he do? Yeah, what the fuck? What he would have done if he didn't join a podcast seven years ago? What are we talking about? We're not talking about selling drugs. No offense. But which would he?

He answered. He said he want to work with animals. What's wrong with that? Why he's hating on my dreams? Why are you squashing his dreams? Okay. It's a hypothetical, damn it. Yeah, you don't know what.

I mean, I could have got into it. I could have been like, yo, my man. just got some. Zookeepers don't make no money, ma'am. Okay? I mean, I would have been, you know, I would have found a way. I'm a hustler. Yeah, he'd be busy.

I'd have had monkeys for the low for the whole hood. If I'd stand in and say, I would buy penguins from all. Everybody uptown would have had a monkey. I'd buy your son, they're coming in tomorrow. You niggas, meet me by the concourse. You, I got leaving us from the loan. Imagine robbing a truck full of monkeys. I got curious George on the streets.

I'm going to find a way to make some money on the side. You know that. I'm a hustler, baby. You got to make some money. But you, anything working with animals. I just think that that's a cool job to wake up to every day and get to like just work with a bunch of different animals. Not you guys.

I love y'all. Your animals too, but. I resent that. Since I'm Irish, firefighter was like always in my DNA. Oh, you would smoke that. I would love to be a fire. I think that's a cool job. You work 48 hours like straight.

Yeah, that's sick. So that's cool that you get like all the other day at all fire. I think Roy would be good at like a graveyard shift. I would love. Stop. You saw a backdraft when you was a kid. and they was Irish and then you had that little twinkle in your eye like you wanted to be a firefighter

a fighting Irish. You know how many Irish like my whole family is firefighters? That's what I'm saying. That don't count. Yeah, like growing up I was like I'd be a firefighter. You saw a backdraft. No, I watched my uncle. He was in backdrop. That or I would like to be a truck driver

first and then start like a truck company. A distribution company? Anywhere he could get the fuck away from his family. Like I think truck drive because I like to drive. and like just long highways where I can listen to what I want to listen to like just chill as like only child I was like I could be a truck driver

You know what looks like a cool job? The um the crab fisherman What? You want to be on deadliest cat? My dad did that That shit looked like a longshore My dad did that show.

You know it's like one of the world's deadliest jobs Well yeah I mean Being black is one of the world's deadliest job Mm-hmm That we don't get paid for it Jeez I don't like how to hold him said Like that

Like y'all agree that And long summers don't get paid me. Yeah, he wasn't. Yeah. Yeah, like, I think I would be like a, I would work on like a crab boat, like crab fisherman. That shit, like, it seems fun. All right.

And like what Captain Phillips did until he ran into the pirates, like, that looks cool, too. Yeah. Like just dry, like, like, some cool shit to be on, in the ocean. What would you pick, Julie? Yeah, Julie, what would you be? I used to teach. You been a politician. No, I hate politics.

I would have still, I would probably gone down the teaching route, got a PhD, been a professor had a cushy university ride that out it's a good life yeah seasonal

create a great low key under the radar love a great life living on a college campus I just love that setting yeah college campuses are beautiful it's just that's a good

that's a good life I want to sit in the grass every day eating an apple and play back game man yeah yeah since it's college do you think you'd eventually fuck a student

definitely it feels like if I was if I was PhD and was like teaching a master's program or like if they were, you know. And you were still on Coke? Oh, not as a professor.

I did not believe him a single bit with that one. No, he said he didn't do Coke when he was teaching. I've seen animals. Well, not during the day on the weekends, yeah. The weekends, you just balls through the wall. Yeah, I might have like popped that as more to the Adderall or two to make it through Mondays, but, you know. That's sick.

I also think, like, driving Amtrak. Wait, what did the Maris said she was going to be? Nothing. I didn't say nothing. What would you have been? Well, I originally went to school to be a psychiatrist. I went to be a psychiatrist. Oh, thank God that didn't work out.

We already said housewife. No, but no, but right there. You don't want to be a housewife. Yes, the fuck I do. Yes, I do. I want to help my husband run whatever business he has. I want to do yoga. I want to help my nanny raise my kids.

This is going to help your nanny raise your baby. There's so many women that say that shit. And I'm like, you know, housewife sounds cool for two years. And you would be bored. You would be bored after two years. would have mesh to do. That's why they all get addicted to fucking painkillers. Well, y'all, no, no, no, no. Drink short at 10 a.m.

I love hosting and cooking and things like that. Yeah, but you're not doing that at 2 o'clock on a Monday. Like, you have mad hours of the day. Like, I would be the person that made my kid like the little lunches with like the little dinosaur ears and stuff like that. Like, that would be me. Okay, but what about the eight hours of the day where there's no one home and it's just you dolo? I would, the nanny and the kids would be home. And I would kids are at school. They're gone. Like I'm saying it's you. You're also having a nanny while you housewife to me that's lazy shit on a See, oh, the women going to kick your ass for that.

The women are going to kick my ass. Exactly. Exactly. What are you doing? Because being a wife and being a mother are two completely different jobs. Being a mother, being a mother, being a mother is a full time job, right? So a mother cannot, she can if your kids are a certain age. But let's say you have a kid under the age of six years old, right? You are, when you're taking care of that kid, it requires a whole lot of

of your time. So the cleaning of the house, the supporting of the husband, the making sure everything else is done, that's a completely separate job than the just being a mom, feeding the child, teaching the child, helping the child, that's completely different. So to say that if you're a housewife having help is lazy, I don't think that that's lazy at all. Okay, but for the father that has to work and also be a father, why don't we get that luxury? Can I get a nanny too? If we have a nanny, it's also your nanny. Manny. If the family.

Can I get Manny Ramirez to come to my crew? If the family has a nanny, you also have a nanny. You think if you had a nanny right now, you don't think that that would make your life easier? Of course it would. Exactly. So what do you talk about can I have a nanny? You're saying that between parenting and having to do other shit, you need a nanny. You're not home.

I'm doing other shit as well. So let me get one too. But you're not home with your kid all day. Yeah, I'm at work all day. Then I come home to father. but she's also getting a partner during the day to parent. So let me get one too. Okay.

We can have that conversation off Mike because that's a longer. He makes a good point. That's a longer. If she gets help, why can I do it? How's this? If I have a nanny, right? Because if I want a nanny, it's mainly for my mental health and my marriage. If I have a nanny, when my husband comes home, I'm not too tired from taking care of my kid all day.

And I have so much more time and energy to suck dick. If I have a nanny. Then if I'm home with the kid all day. So now are you okay hiring a nanny? You and the nanny can suck the dick together. And then that's like lit. Tight. Also,

also, Amara will not. Can I write that off my text? Yeah. No dick sucking. It's happening. It's just amazing. I have energy to suck dick. Oh, y'all think that that's not important.

It sounds funny. It's very important. Exactly. Why do you think I hired a nanny to go to the Bahamas? All right. Exactly. My fucking point. I just want my dick sucked.

Exactly, by fucking point. Your partner can be... In Q.S. with fucking blue balls. Damn. Your partner can be a better partner to you if they're not exhausted. Just give them a Celsius. From other things. That's why housewives exist to begin with, even if you don't have a kid.

A lot of men are like, I'd rather my wife be able to support me mentally, physically, emotionally, if she's not ran down from her job too. Because if we're both ran down, now neither one of us have anything to pour into the other. So you want to be a nanny? That's your answer. Oh, you'd be a nanny? God, no. Why?

No, I'd probably be in advertising. What's all my housewife isn't a job? That's interesting. I'd be in advertising. That's entertainment still. Housewife is a job. No, no, no. Depending on how big your house is, housewife is a job.

It doesn't matter. Guess what? It's not paid. We're talking about paid jobs. We're talking about paid jobs. She said, she said, psychology. Oh, yeah, true. No, I would probably be an advertising.

Okay. I quit psychology. It was too much school. But I would be in advertising, probably. Okay. That would be fun. Well, let's get to the next. Wait, wait, yell me.

What would you be? Yeah, we did. that instead of psychiatrist. Yeah. Therapy. I went to business school. Yomi went to business school. You went to business school, guys.

So she would be in business. Yeah. Making businesses. Making businesses. Making businesses. Like Jordan Belford. There you go. She said like a restaurant.

That's dope. There you go. Okay. I would love to open a restaurant. It just, that looks like a different type of monster to me. Hell. Yeah.

That's a whole different. In theory, it sounds amazing. Yeah. Like, just up and running and then like moving and business is good. Yeah, it's great. to get there? Oh my God.

I always said if there's one profession that I could like the dream. Like if you grew, what kind of household would you want to grow up in? If I could choose my parents' profession, I would say they had, they owned a successful restaurant in New York. I would have loved to have been the son of the successful restaurant owners in the city. That would have been. That would be cool. I would have suffered by work.

I barbacked. I waited. I've done all that shit my whole life. I really would have loved because the people I was doing it for was also family owned. It was upstate. But they were super successful. And I was always like, damn, it would be really cool to be like,

because obviously this is all coming through the family. Like, at the end of the day, it's going to become your thing. But it would have been cool to be like that 15-year-old kid that literally rises through the kitchen to the front of the house, to the whatever, to whatever, and ultimately the business side of things. Because then that's so much of your DNA. I just think that would have been cool.

A chef would just be a cool. Chef, too. I feel like. Yeah. I really thought Julian's nasty ass was going to say masseuse. What? You think the worst, because he massaged your beard. You ought to let that go.

He has great hands. All right. Talk to me nice. Let another band massages, y'all. Yeah. Yeah. This is a pivot because we talked about the case with the driving. So let's just going to go dark for a minute here.

We just lined up. What's up everyone? Just wanted to say, love the pod. Love the whole crew. You guys are killing it right now. And baby Dee is funny as fuck. Nice. But anyways, just calling to get your guys' thoughts on a situation.

where my buddy passed away about a year ago. That was my guy, you know. And an older gentleman in the 70s was driving in the morning and turned in front of him when he was on his bike and killed him. Damn. And he was actually sentenced yesterday, and he had three days in jail, two years probation, and can never drive with the license again.

And, you know, I was just curious what your guys' thoughts are something like that. What do you think would be a fair sentence with something like that? It just doesn't seem like enough. It would never be enough, but maybe at least bring a little closure to his wife and his kid.

Jesus. But anyways, love the pod. Keep doing what you're doing. You guys are killing it. And I can't wait to see what's next for you guys. Well, thank you for that. First of all, and condolences to you and a loss of your friend. I'm so sorry.

It was an older guy that hit his friend. Seventy-year-old man. 30 days, two-year probation and no driving again. That's an accident. I don't think that was intentional, obviously. I think that that's just a road accident. He was a friend was on a bike. Yeah.

We've seen that in the city happen plenty of times. You see cases of people just getting hit by cars. So that's what you call an accident. 70 old man 30 days in jail I mean it's you know if he had 30 years in jail it doesn't bring your friend back no but I do understand how the judge

would look at a 70 year old man who probably probably doesn't have any priors not you know he's just 70 old guy just driving doing his daily thing and it was an accident so yeah I don't you know the sentencing the amount of time I can't, you know, that that's, that, that doesn't, it doesn't bring back the love, the lost one.

But, um, I just think that that was the legitimate accident. And it's unfortunate, but I don't think that a guy 70-year-old that hits a guy on a bike by accident deserves a 15-year-old sentence in jail and nothing like that. I think that's, that's what an accident is. It was an accident. I don't want to get on like a, another conspiracy ran. I promise I won't. Conspiracy rent out of this question? Yeah.

Because I think this can be avoided based off of the lack of driver tests we have to do throughout our lives. Oh. I'm 33 years old. I think I should have to take another driver's test when I renew my license, whether it be 36 years old, 38 years old. I think we need to constantly renew our license and get checked for driving death machines. Every 10 years. I'm not even mad at five. I know it's an inconvenience and it sucks.

I'd get annoyed by it too. We are driving vehicles that weigh tons that can go 100 miles an hour. And we are allowed to drive them whenever we feel like it. On any road at any time. My grandfather made it to 92 still driving. And he should not have been fucking driving. He could legally drive and it used to bother me so much because he was a fucking prideful Irish man

would not let anyone else drive his car. I felt like I was going to die every time we got in that car. And he was legally allowed to drive up until 92 years old. Now, I'm with legally not being able to drive by yourself after a certain age. I'm with that just because, you know,

somebody 92 years old, anything can happen while they're driving. They could, you know, have some type of medical emergency behind the wheel. I mean, anybody can, right? You fall asleep. Yeah, anybody. can't.

I've done that. Anybody can fall asleep behind it way, anybody can have a medical emergency but if you're of a certain

age and you're that old 92, I think that you should not be allowed to drive by yourself. And I mean, my conspiracy ran on that is, I mean,

one of the biggest consumptions, whether it be oil, gas, cars, like, they want us driving. They want, I don't think 16-year-old

should be able to get their fucking license. That's the craziest thing in the world to give a 16-year-old a death machine. And they're not even allowed to vote. We don't even allow them to vote, but they can drive. Like, that's crazy.

Their frontal lobe is not able to vote, but their frontal lobe can drive a car. It's all based on consumers, and our whole shit is based off gas and oil. Right. So I didn't want to get in that conspiracy shit, but I do think we have way less of these situations and not even just older people, just people that can't drive in general. There's 70-year-olds that I know can drive better than 20-year-olds. It's not really based sometimes off age. It's based off ability. And we're too lenient in how we give licenses

to people. Yeah, but even in that though, you can't stop an accident. Of course not. No, of course. Actions happen, but there are preventative measures. Yeah. I'm saying that can mitigate. If somebody's 92, they should not be operating. But the problem is they can. No, they should change that.

You should not be able to operate a vehicle by yourself after at 92. It's still, but it's the way in which they clamped down on drunk drivers. Like that was a normal as shit. Like, that wasn't a thing until it became a real issue. And then it was, you know, the clamp down. And some of my favorite clips on the internet are of people, like,

complaining about not being able to drive drunk to the news station being like, they're taking away our rights. This is not the America. I grew up in. There's one famous clip of a woman like going off in like a Southern accent. And like, meanwhile, her toddler, like two, three year old is like sitting with, yeah, with. with no car seat in this in this in the passenger seat of a pickup truck and she's like ranting about the her safety and her freedoms are being like infringed upon so like it's not a thing until we make it a thing right but these need to be implemented because yeah again it's not it's not a safeguard but there are these are just measures that would help yeah I don't know I just I just feel there needs to be more when it comes to renewing your license and just getting your license in general yeah like it's it's fucking wild I have not taken I took a

road test at 17 to get my license, I have not taken one sense. Yeah, I saw the way you were parking other days about time. Damn. Oh, my God. Can I put that video out? Yeah, we can't. No, no. I'm an amazing driver.

License plate. He just wanted that out. I'm an amazing driver. I thought Rory was going to fuck. The lady behind him thought he was about to hit her car. She was just standing there like, she was standing there like, oh, please don't tap my car. Please don't hit my car.

And then you backed out in and out four times. It was not four times. How many times was it? It was definitely more than four. It was more than four. It was more than four. Damn. Now you guys are like,

you guys are legitimately lying. Nah, because then you like ripped it on the curve. It literally was more than four, Rory. I get it. I got in on the third one. The first one I was joking with y'all.

The second one I really fucked up, the third I parked. Nah. That's a fact. No, no, that's a fact. On Amara.

That's a fact. I don't do that. I remember it vividly. I don't lie on her jacket. She already got a rash. Her jacket is too high. She already had to go to Key West. She had a tough time in Key West.

She had a tough time in Key West. Clearly, her karma's not beautiful. Was that the last one? Well, I wanted to play one more. We have a callback from Cosmo. Our great... Cosmo called back. Our Spider-Man.

Oh, I can't wait for this. So we can start it up and then carry this into the Patreon. So we'll see you guys over there. All right, Cosmo. All right, what's up, y'all? My name's Cosmo. Y'all resumed. We know your name.

My fucking, my spider question, and it made me really happy. Like 6 o'clock in the morning. woke up and I played that episode. I was the first one. It made me so fucking happy. So I'm just going to shoot my shot. See if y'all could answer this one. I don't know.

Maybe, maybe not. I don't know if you only do one per person, but I'm going to try. So whenever my girl... This special hip-hop 50 episode of New Rory and Mall is brought to you by eBay. Rory, yes. Us hip-hop fans, we know authentic when we see it, when we hear it. You can't fake us out. Absolutely.

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