New Rory & MAL - Episode 20 | "Adult Love Affair"

Episode Date: November 19, 2021

Back in New York, Rory & Mal settle back into their home studio, and rehash their Los Angeles experiences. They of course have to give their opinions on Drake and Kanye rekindling their bromance,... and then get into Tidal changing their royalties and payment structure, which gives fans more ability to directly support their favorite artists. Rory and Mal also discuss the upcoming battles of Chaka Khan and Stephanie Mills, as well as Three Six Mafia vs Bone Thugs, and then venture into a conversation about adult baecations. They address Adele's upcoming album, review Silk Sonic's release, and much more! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoicesSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:01:54 Like, I don't, what's going on? You got your varsity jacket on? You're trying to relive your high school days? What's up, man? Talk to me. I'm your guy. All you got to do is talk to me. I didn't even connect those two things.
Starting point is 00:02:03 Yeah. Like that's what I'm looking. I'm like, okay. Like, you know I wouldn't went pro if I didn't pull my hamstring. I understand. I would be in the league right now. No, I know. For real.
Starting point is 00:02:10 And Nix will be a whole different team. Probably be the same team. They'd probably be the same, bro. I mean, would they really need Derek Rose? I'm sure they would. I'm sure he would still have a spot. Absolutely. You wasn't feeling teenage love affair?
Starting point is 00:02:23 Why does Alicia Keys always do the breakdown, like, weirdo talk shit? Because Alicia Keys is like the, uh, epitome of like a musical. She's like a musical artist. Like all of her records feel like a musical. Like her visuals are like everybody, all the waitresses start dancing. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:02:43 Like Alicia Keys is that type of artist. She is the epitome of the West Side story. Yeah. That's what Alicia Keys is. I just feel like her flirting, and of course we're talking about her music, not she's in a loving marriage right now. Yes, absolutely.
Starting point is 00:02:54 But anytime she like flirted on a record, like with most or even on this teenage love affair, like it was terrible it was just the epitome of women not having gained it was it sounded like the voicemail for the phone put extra milk in your hot chocolate they usually tell me to use water she shot that at the legendary pan pan in Harlem too shout out the pan pan and most deaf ordered a hot chocolate and fish you know what his stomach is in insane combo there speaking of insane combos uh somebody left some crazy shit in the toilet in the men's bathroom That's the beautiful thing about like working in like corporate and being in the office space with other people
Starting point is 00:03:28 Like the bathroom like that's where shit goes down at or doesn't go down That's all of this fucked up in there For sure Somebody in here is eating way too much dairy bro I've heard from women some nasty things Men have like texted them from their corporate job in the bathroom Like dick piss? Like yeah and like wild shit that I'm like that's what happens in corporate bathrooms
Starting point is 00:03:50 Like when I'm pissing like some dudes over there beating off Sending a vid on his lunch break. Yeah, it's like the subway. It's like a New York subway. But I would expect it at the subway. The subway's kind of romantic. But I mean, everybody gets off the subway. It comes here.
Starting point is 00:04:01 What you expect? It's the same people. Teenage love affair. Exactly. Exactly. Perfect way to tie that all in, Rory. You need to have an adult love affair. Who said I don't?
Starting point is 00:04:12 Well, we interviewed our exes on the live show. We did. Had a great time, didn't we? In New York, we interviewed my ex. Live behind a curtain. A lot of fun. A lot of fun. some things about you, man.
Starting point is 00:04:25 She said she wore you like a cashmere scarf. I still don't know what that means, but I didn't know you were so flexible. It means I'm gentle but dependable. Warm. Warm. Yeah. Okay. Okay.
Starting point is 00:04:37 So I was worn. Yeah. I didn't know you was flexible. She said you were very flexible. Well, I ran track at one point. You know, you got to stretch your shit. Your legs are still limber? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:47 Yeah. I mean, you know, I learned a lot about you, but there's a lot of fun, though. We had a lot of fun. I think the fans enjoyed that. lot of great feedback from that. Too bad we can't do that in every city because we don't have exes in every city. Well, let me speak for myself.
Starting point is 00:04:59 I don't have an ex in every city. I do not. Nor would I ever. That's, it's not horridish behavior. But we could still do fun shit with like single women. We could fly them out to these different cities. No.
Starting point is 00:05:11 Exes? You don't want to fly an ex out? No. I feel like that is probably taking a step back. Yeah, it's a little crazy. Yeah. I mean, we put them in a separate hotel. I'm no.
Starting point is 00:05:19 Different city. I'm no longer actively sleeping with a woman that was interviewed. It had been a long time. Yeah. I didn't think she was going to reveal some of the things that she revealed. Mm-hmm. And some of the secrets that I had had about, you know, certain group chats and group sex.
Starting point is 00:05:32 And I didn't think she was going to tell Sony whole that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, we're all a family. That's the thing about our live shows. It's all family. God is still working on me. Yeah. I am not my past.
Starting point is 00:05:40 Me too. I'm a work in progress. You know, it was good to see and hear from a lady I used to date. She looks great. She's doing well, you know, so. She sounded. And, you know, this is going to be funny coming from me, but it's just how us white people think. I did expect her to sound the way she sounded.
Starting point is 00:06:00 Yeah. Which block in the heights are she from? Not too far uptown in the heights, but close. She's like in the early 70s, the 171. Yeah, 90, 96. Okay. Yeah. All right, not too bad.
Starting point is 00:06:15 No, she kind of held it down for you, I feel like. Yeah, man. I'm trying to look through the questions I asked and kind of her answers. Yeah, I mean, it's not. I haven't dated any women that, you know, like I said, it was left off on too bad of terms. Like, it's still like all love and respect. Some hate me for reasons outside of my control, but, you know, for the most part from my end, it's still all love and respect. Well, no, the funny one she did say, which, I mean, we should put up some highlights soon on YouTube.
Starting point is 00:06:43 And we will. The most insecure thing you ever did was you turn the beats pill off when an unreleased date East record was playing, and she knew the lyrics. Yeah, I just didn't understand. understand how she knew the lyrics to that record. Because it wasn't out, right? Yeah, it wasn't out yet. And it was just like, all, we're not doing that. You know, shout out to Dave, though.
Starting point is 00:06:58 What was the feedback? After, like, he sent you to unreleased, like, Yo, Moe, let me know what you think. Did you give him feedback? No, he didn't send me to release. He sent her to unreleased. Oh, she started playing it. You tried to Shazam it, and it wasn't out?
Starting point is 00:07:08 And I was just like, yo, how you even know these bars? Like, no, cut that off. We're not doing that. I know what that means. That's a personal, a personal folder you have in your phone. After the LA show, we went back to the Mondrian and had, you know, it was late in L.A. is in. Now we can't stay there no more because now you had fans showing up. I did not have any fans show up.
Starting point is 00:07:27 No, you did. I had nothing to do with that. No, you did. You told the whole world where we were staying and she showed up. What do you mean? That's your fault. So the Mondrian, it's been great. We will not be using your services or your beds anymore.
Starting point is 00:07:39 It's been a great run with you guys. It's been a hell of a run, but we won't be there anymore. No. We'll be down the block. Yeah. Right down the road. Don't worry about it. well yeah that was odd
Starting point is 00:07:48 yeah that fan coming back and getting in the elevator I'm glad it was just one because it could have been more I just assumed she was with y'all we all assumed she was with one of us like everybody just assumed like I thought she was with you no she wasn't with any of us
Starting point is 00:08:03 and at the show when we did like the after meeting re-shit I thought she worked for the venue she was taking pictures like a professional yeah she don't work for her right I'll get you these prints soon I'm like oh thanks yeah she did a wardrobe change because she and then she like put the merch on and I thought it was a whole different person and she came and took another picture with me. I was like, wait, I just saw you with a whole different setup on and then she
Starting point is 00:08:23 ended up at the hotel lobby. Yeah. I was just like, okay. Well, I see what's happening. Well, the people that were invited did bring some pluses and I haven't interacted in a long time with like just strange women like in a casual setting where like you just really get to know things about people that you've never met and probably wouldn't speak to had you not been in this predicament at the moment. Right. it's fucking weird out there now Carl can attest Carl was there with me
Starting point is 00:08:48 yeah and I thought one I thought these women were in their mid thirties they were like 22 which is a red flag right away yeah we know that off top
Starting point is 00:08:59 shout out of 22 years but yeah it's a red flag were very young which threw me off and then as I felt like the vibe was getting kind of cool and people were chilling music was playing at that point food it came
Starting point is 00:09:10 one of the the women I was talking to on a completely platonic level looks over at me very close to my face and says, have you ever had an abortion? It was that same, it was the same silence that I had. I know what she was asking.
Starting point is 00:09:29 Thank God no one could hear it over the party next door. But I heard it. I know what she was asking. She was asking, also has a woman ever had an abortion for you? But she just didn't word it. Okay. I know what she meant.
Starting point is 00:09:40 I know exactly what she meant. But it just sound nuts. Her asking, have you ever had an abortion? I know what she meant when she said it. Why are you asking me that? Yeah. Why is that in your head right? What, like, what is going on?
Starting point is 00:09:51 I think she was, I think she was like, you know, just trying to start a deeper conversation with you. You know what I mean? I think she was trying to tap into you emotionally a little bit. This is where I beg for women to ask me my sign first. Yeah, it's like, we could keep a surface. Let's go with astrology that I don't believe in. Let's go surface level shit. What type of food do I like?
Starting point is 00:10:11 You know, what type of dessert do I like? What do I usually order when I? I go to restaurants, like what type of wine? What's your name? I don't even think we got that far. Yeah, yeah. What's your name? You know, how old are you?
Starting point is 00:10:21 Things like that. And I didn't know how to answer her because then I was like, well, is she like fresh from one? Yeah. Like, did she go from there to here? And then you don't know what type of emotion that will bring up in her. And I'm pro choice. It's your choice. It's a woman's body.
Starting point is 00:10:35 But I also, that I have a pro choice to not answer you about abortion things. It's definitely your choice. It's my mouth, my choice. It's absolutely your choice. Your mouth, your choice. you didn't have to answer that I don't think you should have answered that and it's nobody's business
Starting point is 00:10:49 Rory I did I did like an in-person L-O-L-L like huh Yeah Like you don't really laugh Yeah yeah yeah Let's just add this to the end of the sentence You gotta slap her leg
Starting point is 00:11:01 Like ah Come on my thing is Where does she go from the answer Like if you said the year or no Where is she gonna take The rest of the conversation Maybe she wanted details Like did you go half
Starting point is 00:11:11 Did you go with her to the clinic. Did you say, hey, get rid of that shit? Or, hey, that's not mine. All of that is inappropriate. She shouldn't actually. That's just way too, like, personal shit to be asking somebody the first day you meet them. The first hour you meet them.
Starting point is 00:11:29 Yeah. I mean, I heard offense, the food was Domino's Pizza. So, like, the bar wasn't too high in the room. Yeah. It was chill vibes. It wasn't nothing too crazy. Everybody was chilling. It was interesting.
Starting point is 00:11:39 But it was a good night. Great show in L.A. The energy was really good. saw a lot of faces that I recognized from before previous shows. A lot of new fans, a lot of new people came out to see us. It was a great time.
Starting point is 00:11:54 I had a real good time. I didn't tell you about my experience flying from, I didn't tell any of you. Flying from New York to L.A. My flight was delayed six hours. Yeah, the rain. Finally got on the plane. We sat for two hours.
Starting point is 00:12:05 The guy in front of me, I just assumed he was really fucked up. He was berating every single flight attendant, screaming like I want to see the red coat I didn't even know what the red coats was I thought he was watching the Patriot on the shit he said I need to see the red coat and I'm looking around and everyone what's the military showing up? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:23 There's like a manager on a plane that like wears a red coat never seen him That must be I'm in the back of the plane There must be the red coats must be the red coats must sit in front They're usually at the gate when you check me walking into the board in the plane So he was going like he was going crazy in that plane Annoying the fuck out of everybody Because everyone we've all been sitting here for four hours before. Like,
Starting point is 00:12:44 don't, come on. We're all on the same predicament right now. Stop being an asshole to two women on top of that. As flight attendants. You know what I never understood? When people go crazy on flights being delayed when it's weather related. Like, what the fuck can anybody in this airport do? Like, you want them to stop the weather?
Starting point is 00:13:00 Well, they were, he was berating the flight attendants as if they could do something. And he was like, well, can I get like a free drink or something? Just say you want a free drink. Just say I'm an alcoholic and I need some alcohol. Sir, you're in first class. Right.
Starting point is 00:13:14 The drinks are free. Would you like a drink? Yeah. Like, just relax. So then we finally get on the tarmac. We were first in line. They let us skip. We get on the tarmat.
Starting point is 00:13:23 He refuses to put his fucking bed shit up. So now not only have we been delayed this long, this asshole, when we're about to take off, refuses to put his seat up because we were delayed and he thinks he can do whatever the fuck he wants. Yeah. So the flight attendant then comes. It's like, hey, you need to put the seat up.
Starting point is 00:13:40 Like, we're going to have to go back to the gate. realized we just got straight to the runway. They put us in front. He then grabs her wrist, and I was the closest one there. So I grabbed him. And then the other flight attendant went to get the pilot. I'm like, oh, this flight's getting canceled. Like, we just waited six hours for me to have to go back to my crib.
Starting point is 00:13:58 Yeah. So the pilot comes out and is like, all right, is this going to be a problem? Because I could tell the pilot was like, dog, I'm trying to get the fuck out of you too. Are you going to sit there and be quiet? And at that point, I don't know if he was just like a super. misogynist, he listened to that pilot right away. He was like, yes, I'll sit here, I'll buckle up, I'll put it up. We start flying, fast the seatbelt comes off.
Starting point is 00:14:22 He loses his phone in the shit. And his seat. So now he's literally trying to tear apart a whole first class seat, and he's slamming his fucking overhead staring at me like, yeah, you grab me, but I can slam a overhead. Then he slams the overhead. It doesn't shut because he hit it too hard. His bag falls on him, and I say when the whole plane just starts dying, and laughing at him.
Starting point is 00:14:42 Good. Then he starts taking pills out of his bag and I'm like, oh, he's peeled up. Takes the pills, he knocks out. Don't hear from him. We wake up, or he wakes up, pardon, when we land. Turns around looks at me like he had never seen me a day in his life and goes, where are we? I said, we're in L.A. I said, why am I in L.A.?
Starting point is 00:15:00 I said, I don't know, sir. So clearly, I do want to shoot him some bail. Clearly, the pills that he took was something he needed because that knocked him out and brought him kind of back to where the fuck he was. He was clearly having a manic episode. That's 100% true. Yeah. It was a very strange experience. Flying is always interesting because you never know who you're going to, you know, see or be on a plane with.
Starting point is 00:15:26 I remember coming back from L.A. the last time we were there, there was somebody sitting in front of me. And he was like, I don't know what the terms is, but he had like, he was really like, it wasn't anxiety. He had like a, he was cursing. He was banging on the fucking, like, he was mad that whenever he tapped the screen to change the movie, I guess it wasn't, like, picking up his thumbprint. So he started punching it. Then he got agitated at the dude, the one dude in front of us. No, no, it wasn't true.
Starting point is 00:15:55 It was one dude in front of us that kept, like, slamming, like, he kept getting something out of his bag and closing it. He started cursing at that dude. He keeps slamming the fucking overhead. So I was like, okay, this dude is a little, and his wife was sitting right next to him. I saw she was trying to calm him down, and he was taking pills throughout the fight. So it's just always like a movie Within a movie Like you're watching a movie
Starting point is 00:16:13 But then you're watching the people around you You're seeing what they get you know Type of people they are And like you're you're guarded by The idea of This being federal And the worst federal crime That could possibly happen
Starting point is 00:16:25 When you're in an airport or Yeah On an airplane So all that anger is like Where's it going? Because you can't do You can't do nothing You can't touch someone wrong
Starting point is 00:16:33 Yeah That's why when he grabbed that Flight attendant's wrist And then I grabbed his to get it off Yeah I was like oh this this flight is over Yeah Like there's no way.
Starting point is 00:16:40 And sometimes there's air marshals on the flights. Which I was expecting at some point. Sometimes air marshals on the flights and you hope that you're not on the flight where air marshal has to detain somebody because then the flight's not going away. No. Especially if you didn't take off yet, the flight's not going. Or you're fucking landing in Chattanooga. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:55 Yeah, it's terrible. But yeah, man, L.A. was a great time. L.A. was a great time. Had a lot of fun. Saw some old friends. Shout out to everybody that came out to the show. There was a lot of people that came out. The dressing room was a, it was a, it was a very time.
Starting point is 00:17:09 vibe. Yeah, it was a lot of people. I finally, I finally met Ari. Ari Lennox. She has some interesting words for me, but it's all love. For some reason, Arri felt like I, like I said some things about her before that she didn't like. And I swear I don't remember ever seen anything about Ari. I don't either. And this has been a thing for a little while. Ari is a dear friend of mine. I do love and care about her. I've explained to her. I was like, I don't remember and I could be wrong. Yeah. But if I find the clip, sure. I don't remember ever saying a bad word. I don't remember ever saying anything about Ari. Um, and then she, you know, she told me, she's like, oh, I thought you were an asshole. Like,
Starting point is 00:17:51 you're such a nice guy. I was like, you thought I was an asshole. Like, damn, like, but we spoke and it's all love. Shout out to Ari. I'm way less of an asshole than the person that you like that is an asshole. Wait, I'm like, I'm the asshole. Yeah. I'm like, Rory's the asshole. But, okay, whatever. But yeah, yeah, she's great, man. We spoke and we laughed about the whole thing. And I thanked her for coming out and she enjoyed the show she said we did a great job so.
Starting point is 00:18:13 Yeah, it was good I'm glad to Raja came out. It was rapping in there too Reason, Boogie we're just name dropping here at this way obviously guru The family It was a lot
Starting point is 00:18:22 The fam The fam came out to support It was industry I just admit I'm industry now Like if you're not industry Don't come in my green room That sounds crazy
Starting point is 00:18:31 But I understand what you mean Like yeah It is what it is But it's a different type of industry It's like the people that we really really fuck with Yeah, they're artists and, you know, things of that, you know, executives, producers and stuff. But they're like the cool of that.
Starting point is 00:18:49 The down-to-earth people. Yeah. Like, they're not too strong out on themselves. They're not too into themselves. Like, the conversations that we have is just like they would never speak like that with anybody else. Oh, no. You know what I mean? So it's like, it's a different, it's a different relationship.
Starting point is 00:19:03 It's a different type of relationship. But we had a lot of fun, man. Shout out to L.A. shout out to all the people that came out. It was a great time. The last LA thing, I will say, I did go to a club for the first time in a while. But I went to, like, the white night at Poppy.
Starting point is 00:19:17 It wasn't like, it was like a lot of EDM and, like, white college girls. I probably go to UCLA. The same night as you. No. But different times. I got the, I was in the early crowd. No, you went to bootseys.
Starting point is 00:19:28 That was Bootsie. I went to Bootsie. I went to Poppy. No, I didn't go to Poppy. I just want to know, like, we talk about frontline workers and first responders and all that. We never discussed the Uber drivers at 4 a.m. that pull up to the club.
Starting point is 00:19:42 Like, they're, to me, first responders. They deserve the same, the flyover from the Jets at football games. Like, we need to add in Uber drivers for drunk kids at 4 a.m. I don't know how TaxiCap Confessions or, like, Uber Confessions isn't a thing on HBO. Because I'm sure there's some, like, gold content in those Ubers at night leaving the club with, like, privileged rich kids going back into the hills. Like, you have to film that. And how was HBO not filming this? Well, because I feel like most of the footage would be them throwing up in the back seat, but...
Starting point is 00:20:13 I want to watch it. I love to see rich privileged kids cursing the drive out and... And then... Sir, can you pull over, please? And then Blake threw up. Yeah, I want to see that. I would laugh at that shit. And then Connor stepped in it.
Starting point is 00:20:25 Yeah, it was... It was, um... I got there after you left. It was definitely interesting to see, like, all of those kids outside waiting for their Uber's after and getting pissed on the Uber driver. I couldn't find where they were standing on the sidewalk. and it was just like your car is literally 30 feet away you can just walk to your car no they want the car to reverse and come back to the front
Starting point is 00:20:44 I was just like yeah whatever but yeah man we had a good time in LA LA was great man I guess some shit did happen while we were there we shot an episode with guru on hot yeah which people seemed to like was definitely some nerd nerd talk but I like that type of nerdsaw great conversation uh serious XM shout out to serious XM
Starting point is 00:21:03 and LA they opened their studios for us and welcomed us there I mean, they lighted me like a ghost, but Yeah, other than that. That was, that was, that was, that was, I never knew I could get white. I had nothing to do with that. Carl got to take some of that blank. No, Carl, you could put a filter on that camera,
Starting point is 00:21:18 something, bro. That, that lighting on Rory was nuts. Put some 1977. Yeah, like, Rory, he's white, but that was like, that was like, different level white. That was like, yo, this guy doesn't leave the house. I'm not even that white in December. Yeah, that was crazy.
Starting point is 00:21:33 That was absolutely, even Guru was like three shades light up. He was like, what the fuck? Only me and Hop looked normal because we had hats on. So the shade, the light was kind of being blocked out of our faces. He was like, yo, I'm out of the lighting guy. I just know the presets. And I was just like.
Starting point is 00:21:47 Was preset pasty? Is that what it was? It was pastel. Yeah. It was pastel white. Preset pigmately challenged. Yeah, it was, it was that lighten was crazy. They had my guy Rory looking crazy.
Starting point is 00:21:56 But it was a dope conversation. And I was mad because when me and Hop left, we went to Hop studio right down the block. And he told me off camera. was like, damn, I forgot to bring up on camera. The black album was actually the last time he worked with Jay. Oh, wow, okay. Yeah, that was last time that Hopper worked with Jay on the album. Was that for a particular reason?
Starting point is 00:22:21 I'm not sure. I didn't ask him. Like, we didn't really get into it. Hop's plate definitely got super full after that. Yeah, we didn't get into it, but he was like, yeah, he was like, you know, he said, yeah, I totally forgot. Like, that's the last time I worked on an album with Jay. So I was like, damn, you know, I didn't realize that.
Starting point is 00:22:35 But either way, it was a great conversation. Thanks to Guru, thanks to Hop for taking time to come sit and kick it with us. And I would like to do more of that. Oh, yeah. Especially with them because they have so many projects and artists and stuff that they worked with and shit that they worked on that. They're like the encyclopedias of hip-hop. Like me and Hop was in the studio talking about so much shit.
Starting point is 00:22:58 And it was just like, you know, watching your big brother from afar, you don't realize how much shit he's done because Hop is the most down-to-earth. humble you'll ever meet. And then, you know, he starts talking about projects he did and playing the record. He's like, yeah, you know, I ain't our dad. I'm like, what? Like, I totally forgot about that. So, yeah, we got to sit down and make sure we talk to, like, people in the culture like
Starting point is 00:23:19 that, like the real encyclopedias, the people that most people may not know, but they play a very intricate role in a lot of the art and the things that we love and some of the legendary pieces of material that we have in our culture. And I even like the idea, not to say that this was, like preconceived that we were like we were going to do the black album with hop and guru i do think focusing on certain albums every now and then yeah like just doing certain episodes dedicated even it's not an anniversary yeah like just if we have someone that's in the space that was so intricate the way an engineer and a r can be right with an album that i think that's a cool series that we could
Starting point is 00:23:54 add to the shit and you know like we've said we're doing shit on the fly seeing what works and i think that's something in the future we find an album we love find a person that and just dissected with the people that's that's that episode yeah yeah yeah Absolutely. Especially when you have people with, you know, as much history in the relationship that Hop and Guru have. You know what I mean? Like I said, they, you know, they go way back sharing, you know, motels in Manhattan just to shower to get back to the studio. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:24:19 That type of shit you don't see anymore. So yeah, shout out to Hop, shout out to Google. That was a great episode, great conversation. And I look forward to doing more shit like that. Yeah. You stayed in LA a little longer. Certain reason, like, was a girl or something? No.
Starting point is 00:24:33 Just flight. I hate the flights. I hate the flights. It's always the flights. You know, I hate flying in like the day we got to work or record. I hate that. Well, you should have told her that. There was no her. Like, I literally missed the fucking, it was my first time flying out of American out of L-A-X.
Starting point is 00:24:49 So I wasn't familiar with the terminal. We usually fly Delta. And it was just, you know, I went to this kiosk, and there was a bunch of people at the kiosk waiting to get their bag tags. Then by the time I got my bag tag and said they had to see an agent. Listen, man. I got to walk to the other end of the terminal. to see the agent.
Starting point is 00:25:06 He was in a quality spooning and she said, babe, can you stay another night? No, absolutely not. I was all packed, ready to get out of L.A. He was packed to the airport.
Starting point is 00:25:13 Yeah, no, I wasn't packed in anybody. I was ready to leave and I had to get back on that shuttle to get back to the Uber parking lot. That shit was terrible, well, at least you saw her after,
Starting point is 00:25:22 though, when you missed the flight, right? No. No, I literally. So you're admitting there isn't her? There's no her. I literally watched the Laker game, Lakers and Bucks,
Starting point is 00:25:30 got something to eat, took a quick nap. I had to be at the airport at 4 a. So it wasn't like But she got a car So she drove you So it's easier
Starting point is 00:25:36 Rory is a fucking idiot I'm just no her I'm trying man I know what you're trying It was no her But yeah I had to spend A few more hours in L.A.
Starting point is 00:25:45 Then I had wished to But it's all good Well some shit happened I guess we have to go back to it Not that part two of the yay shit Was too much crazier Than the other thing Other than him exploiting
Starting point is 00:25:57 Backpack rap Which I think is fucking hysterical And Try to tell y'all man It was a troll all along and nobody would listen to me. It was like, no, he was, I said, bro, two polo shirts on at the same time is a troll.
Starting point is 00:26:09 And I said, a Louis Vuitton backpack and saying you're with the backpackers. That's a trope. Backpackers are Jan Sports. I know. You know, Kipling's maybe. Kipplings, if you want to be like, ooh, he got a little style to him.
Starting point is 00:26:20 I mean, but you would see like buckshot in them dressing in some, some Gucci every now and then. Yeah, but. They're considered, they backpack with guns. Yes. They have guns in their backpack.
Starting point is 00:26:30 Yeah, absolutely. Absolutely. Yeah, but I just knew. Kanye was trolling all along. Like, that was never, I never took any of that serious. But it was interesting to see him, like, finally say it on camera. It's fun. I was mad at it because I, I myself am a backpacker.
Starting point is 00:26:44 Mm-hmm. And it was like, damn, that kind of sucks that, like, he was really using them. But backpacking used Kanye. Like, I feel like that kind of bridge the gap between a lot of shit. Like, even from, like, the Kwali, Slum Village, and all them, like, I feel like he brought. brought that sound kind of into the mainstream too. So as much as I was like, damn, that's corny that, like, he's shitting on them. Like, I've never fucked with back.
Starting point is 00:27:10 I was listening to fucking no limit. I wouldn't try to hear that shit. That was just the only people that would fuck with me. Yeah. I get it, but I guess it bridged it. Because college dropout, to me, is the perfect mix of Rockefeller mainstream and backpack wrap together. Palatable backpack wrap. It worked.
Starting point is 00:27:25 It definitely worked. I guess I'll take the trouble. Everyone used everyone in that regard. It absolutely worked. But, again, it was just interesting to see him at, admit it and speak about it and just confirm what I knew all along. Like, bro, come on, two shirts on it,
Starting point is 00:27:40 two collar shirts on at the same time. I mean, that's true. I used to wear basketball shorts under my jeans. So who the fuck I'm out is, say two polos is crazy. Those were nasty. Like, those times were just like, I don't know what we were doing.
Starting point is 00:27:51 We were just nasty. We were being prepared. For what? Like, guys said, you know, in case I spend the night? I'm like, so you just might randomly sleep at somebody else's house, so you need, like, basketball shorts? No, well, I was young at the time
Starting point is 00:28:03 when I was doing that. When that era, I was, I was like, maybe I'll get a game in. And then put your jeans back on over a little sweaty-ass shorts. Oh, we were some nasty little dudes. What? When you was a kid, there was no showers after you. Like, you literally put all your same shit back on and then you went home in the cold. Or you let the sweat dry on you. Now you got sweat stains on your forehead. You look nasty all on your back of your head. We was just nasty little kids, man. I could see how my mom used to get mad whenever I came back in the house. after being out all day. The beanie on after you ran a full court.
Starting point is 00:28:37 Disgusting. Just nasty kids, man. But yeah, I didn't watch the full second part, but I saw bits and pieces of it, little clips online. But I'm going to check it out because I heard it was some good conversation in there too. Well, we can get past the elephant in the room.
Starting point is 00:28:52 Tell us about squashing the beef between Ye and Drake. That's funny. I like it. I figured, once J. Prince stepped into the situation that things would be settled. And just being honest, the beef between Kanye and Drake is, I don't want to say it's dumb, but it was kind of like, all right, what is this about again?
Starting point is 00:29:19 You know what I mean? It kind of started to get to that point, like, what exactly is the issue? And then, you know, Kanye spoke on it, and he was like, he felt, you know, Drake was alluding to some things or he wasn't being clear on certain things. And it's like, okay, but is that a beef? Like, why not just speak to him? him like what it is is have you ever thought some shit and maybe been wrong about it but we already beefing so now we just got to keep going we just got to we got to go now this is just what it is
Starting point is 00:29:44 what it is now but when you're two when you're two big brands you know the caliber of drake and conier you can't fall into dumb shit like that like that type of shit you just have to ignore or y'all y'all know each other personally y'all have to have that conversation and be like yo like what's going on am i like i'm sensing something is there something like going on like that I don't know about, but to let it drag out the way it did for, you know, as many years as it's been. It just was, it got to the point where it was, I'm glad they hashed that out because it kind of got stale. It was like, what are y'all beefing about, really? Do you think that they, this is just my theory in my head, not to say, believe it or not?
Starting point is 00:30:22 Do you think because the response to Donda and to CLB was good but not great or lopsided or anything? it kind of got the same response and I'm not saying a bad or good it just kind of got the same regular response do you think if it had been lopsided
Starting point is 00:30:40 there would be peace here because I think if CLB would have been drastically better than Donda or Donda would have been drastically better than CLB which people can argue I'm just saying
Starting point is 00:30:49 the general response Yeah there would not be this like crazy shit because when Scorpion and Yeh went out yeah clearly
Starting point is 00:30:59 yeah was a pile of shit and Scorpion was cool not Drake's best but it was a good album this was just kind of the same response to me I feel like so now it's like what do we beefing we're both on the same level now yeah I think
Starting point is 00:31:13 I think that it may be some of that I don't think it's much to that Donda is a whole different type of sound different type of project than CLB but CLB you know it's Drake it did the numbers that it was supposed to do
Starting point is 00:31:29 but you could have drastically different albums and get this same response like I'll put it this way I think when salange put out seat at the table it did have a similar impact response the way summer did with over it like two completely different albums but the response and impact that they had were about the same and I'm saying with CLB and Donda the impact and response was
Starting point is 00:31:52 it was just like all right cool no one had a lopsided shit where they could say yo my album just shit it on yours because they was doing the back and forth fucking when we're gonna put it battle shit and no one won there was no winner I think that like I said
Starting point is 00:32:06 I think it's some to that I think it's more so like you know just the brands are so big and it's the beef is really not that serious so it's like
Starting point is 00:32:16 let's just put this shit behind us 2022 is coming you know performance venues are back open I think they see the bigger picture you know and then Jay Prince stepping in
Starting point is 00:32:27 and them really trying to do something monumental as far as for the Hoover family. Yeah, for sure. And I'm trying to help, you know, with that situation. I just think that it's, you know, put their ego to the side and let's hash this out. Y'all are too big to be beefing. Like, y'all are too, the brands are too powerful.
Starting point is 00:32:45 And it's the things that y'all can do together. I agree. This beef is not worth stopping any of that from happening. So I'm glad to see them. And they were really friends at one point. You know what I mean? So I'm glad to see them get past that and put. that behind them.
Starting point is 00:33:02 It's going to be dope to see, you know, if they get this concert to happen, I believe Jay Prince said December 9th. Something like that, yeah. I'm thinking... At the crypto center? Or is it? I'm thinking they go so far stadium with this one. Yeah, that would be the way to go.
Starting point is 00:33:16 I don't, I think the stable center might be too small for this. I'm sorry, it's the crypto.com center. Well, it will be named at Christmas, I believe. So we're still calling the stable center. Crypto.com is a nasty name for a, uh, a, uh, a, uh, a, uh, a, arena. I think that's just terrible. Big Crip. But yeah, like, come on, in the city. But here's the thing, though. I was thinking
Starting point is 00:33:35 about it. I was like, damn, Staples. Like, that was such a iconic name. But then I started thinking, like, what was the last time you went to Staples? They can't afford this, right? That's true. That is true. I was like, damn, I have not been a Staples in about a decade. That's true, but it's some other people. Back to school shopping is getting a laptop and putting your kid on Zoom. That's the Zoom center now.
Starting point is 00:33:55 You know, I get it. I think the Staples, as far Staples, yeah, that's that's like going to like kinkos at this point yeah but um crypto dot com is just a nasty it's a terrible name it's just like how do you brand that like I just don't know but well god um who where did that come from I don't know maybe something more
Starting point is 00:34:21 California uh here's the thing I would love I would have loved I would have loved at that if crypto because of course that's how so many stadiums make their actual monies off sponsorships and what's naming on shit. If there was some way to make that shit the Kobe Bryant arena
Starting point is 00:34:40 brought to you by crypto like somehow that we could just call that the Kobe center like that would be ill if crypto would have done that it still could have been presented by crypto or every sign says crypto but somehow it's Mamba
Starting point is 00:34:53 or it's Kobe's center I think would have been the ill way to do that. And they may have some amazing things sure in store as far as branding and you know marketing and stuff like that but just to name crypto dot com is dot com in a name yeah i just don't i don't i don't know man did you go to the site did i go where to the site no marketing didn't work then no absolutely not um it's still it's still the stable center as far as i'm concerned like it'll always be the stable center but yeah 700 million they paid that tab for that name so that's gonna be rough because i i've never been in a leger game
Starting point is 00:35:25 but i have been in the staples center for stuff i do see bloods there from time to time It must be rough in the group chat to be like, oh, where are you about to go to link? Crypto? Big Crip. You are stupid, man. You are stupid. Going to the big crib?
Starting point is 00:35:40 I'm joking, dog. I have nothing to do a game violence. Lipsy, man. I'm a civilian. I love all gangs. Yeah, but I think that they would have to do that concert at the SoFi Stadium. Yeah, it would have to.
Starting point is 00:35:49 It's a bigger, it holds more people. And then obviously you can put seats on the field. You know what I mean? Things like that. So, yeah, I think they have to do it there. I would say, do it on all that land Kanye has in Wyoming, but I think with the recent stuff going on, building out a whole new stage with security, proper safety precautions, probably ain't the time.
Starting point is 00:36:11 And I think that's asking Drake to go too much into Kanye's world. You know what I mean? Like going to Wyoming, that's like a Kanye thing. Well, he did. That's how this whole thing started. He went to Wyoming and said, hey, look at my child. That's exactly what happened. The funniest shit, and I don't see anybody talking about online, the funniest shit, and I don't see anybody talking about online, the funniest to me about that picture that they took was Kanye wearing a VIP Laminet to walk around Drake's house. Hysterical. I'm like, fan, why do you have this?
Starting point is 00:36:36 I was doomed in to see if J. Prince had one. What? No. No, Jay Pritz absolutely does not have a VIP Laminet to walk around Drake's house. That was just funny to me. Like, they made Kanye wear a VIP Laminant. In Kanye's defense, Drake walked around his own crib in a ski mask and did TikTok dances, so. But that's your crib. You can do what the fuck you want. You can wear every chain in the house. Exactly. But making Kanye wear a VIP pass.
Starting point is 00:37:01 I'm just saying, like nobody knows who Kanye is. Waring a ski mask in your own crib, which I'm sure you have some of the highest level security of all time. Like, did you send out a memo? Like, y'all, I'm going to shoot some TikTok dances today and a ski mask and I'm going to look like I'm about to rob my own crib.
Starting point is 00:37:15 I hope that was random. I hope it wasn't like a thought out execution like that. Like, I hope that was just some random shit he did. Because that was just weird. It was a whole music video. It worked. Right foot left, left foot right. It worked.
Starting point is 00:37:27 It worked. I didn't understand what he was doing with it. I didn't think Drake needed that type of song at the time, but it worked. It actually worked. It fit the times. We were on side. Yeah. All right, so what do you think happens next?
Starting point is 00:37:37 Just so we can get off Drake and Kanye, because I'm such a hypocrite that I've said. I'm so fucking tired to talk about this yet. Here I am. Music absolutely happens. The concert happens. I don't know if it happened as soon as December 9th, but I think it happens at some point. But most importantly, I think that we get music, which is to me, you know, that's all I care about is. just give us good music.
Starting point is 00:37:59 I think at the show, if it happens, we get an announcement of a joint project that will be a pump fake. You don't think it actually happened? No. I think we will get an announcement or some type of alluding that this project is going to happen because they're both two very sensitive artists. I don't mean that in a negative way at all.
Starting point is 00:38:16 Artists are sensitive. Yeah, and that's why they're so great. Two very sensitive artists, I think their emotions go. There's really no middle ground. It's either all the way, all or nothing. Right. and I think they went all the way on the beef side. They're about to get all the way on the I love you side.
Starting point is 00:38:31 And I think we're going to get. I don't think we're going to get the love fest. He took all his fucking Adidas shoes and easy stuff from his house, drove his golf cart down the street and threw it on his lawn. That's what ex-girlfriends do. So you think that was like going all the way? And then went on a Travis Scott record that said he busts a left. Yeah, but nothing never happened.
Starting point is 00:38:53 I'm glad. Nothing never happened. I love both of them. So that's what I mean. Like it was just, again, it was a personal thing because they are, they have a real relationship with each other. We're going to get the love fest. Yeah. Now it's going to be annoying how much they love each other.
Starting point is 00:39:06 But I'll take that any day. Sure. Like, you know, really, give me some good music. Yeah. Just give me good music. People that love glow. Yeah, like, exactly. I love glow.
Starting point is 00:39:14 I loved it. So give me more of that. Give me some great music. Give us some great visuals. And maybe even collab on a sneaker or two. Why not? Go all the way there with it. Fuck it.
Starting point is 00:39:26 Why not? I guess we can stay in that that range real quick because I guess title has something to do with it Did you see the new title news? About them paying the artist and the creatives out? Yeah. Yeah, I did. I saw that.
Starting point is 00:39:41 Also, 10% of that income will go to the artist that you stream the most. Which, I'm not going to say they stole our idea because I'm happy they did, but we've been talking about that shit for five fucking years. Like, why the fuck is the artist I stream the most not getting all of my money? Right. Yeah, I think this is title probably knocking down a different door in this, in the streaming space.
Starting point is 00:40:09 It's a good start. It's a real good start. And I'm saying a lot of artists are really happy about this. Yeah, because, I mean, and that just shows you how important your core fan base can get. Like, for example, we'll use Griselda guys because that's just a good example and that's our people. If they could get a majority of the money of the people that have signed up for a streaming service that are mostly just listening to the fucking 25 albums that they put out all the time, now a core fan base is more profitable than maybe I'll pop up on a playlist today. Yeah. It's changing somewhat of the payola game where you have to get in a certain algorithm with playlist.
Starting point is 00:40:53 Not to say it won't help because eventually that will build someone. to record but now I can really focus on the people that like this type of music that I make and I don't have to go try weird shit and kind of alienate them. I can find a way where I get that direct income via the streaming. The way I used to the way Nipsey would put out the $100 mixtape, I'm going to go right to my people and get the money from them. Streaming kind of took that shit away. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:41:19 Yeah. I think it's a great move. It's a great start. Hopefully it's the start of a domino effect with other streaming. platforms. And again, it's just title, you know, being brave enough to step out there and say, this is the right thing to do. And, you know, hopefully all other streaming platforms follow suit and start to do the same.
Starting point is 00:41:37 And pay these artists out more money because seeing somebody streaming those, what artists have to stream to make, you know, $100,000 is insane. It's insane. Fucking billion streams. Yeah, it's crazy. And not to say that that 10% is going to be a lot because they still need to fix that fraction of a fucking penny. It's a start.
Starting point is 00:41:55 I know title pays out the most of anything. of the streaming service, but it is a way. It's a start. I think title may not end up ever being in that three biggest streaming sites. I think even with, I know we don't listen. Typically, our demographic doesn't listen to Amazon music. I know they're changing that a lot, but a lot of the world uses Amazon music. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:42:17 And obviously we have Apple and Spotify. But I think the stuff title has been doing, they've been looking at. Because even when they've changed, like, high-fi level of music with Apple Music now, how they do playlisting. Like, title's kind of been that example for all these other streaming services that are too big to realize the niche shit
Starting point is 00:42:37 that consumers and artists need. So if they never become the biggest, they will have that impact like, yo, we did the little shit that's really going to matter in the long run for this streaming game. And I think that's important. They pay attention to the detail.
Starting point is 00:42:52 Yeah. Even what, you know, the credits on albums and projects and songs that title does, little things like that, making sure that, you know, people are recognized that worked on these projects, I think that's important. And it just, it's just, you know, sets them apart. Yeah. Are we, you know, ever going to be as big as Apple or Spotify? Maybe not. But we're going to have things that we do with our platform that they're not doing that hopefully people love and care about more. And, you know, we'll start to follow here and, you know, stream here and support their
Starting point is 00:43:23 artist because we paid them more. And that's, that gives you the ability. Sometimes having the largest fan base is not the most ideal thing. No, not at all. You can try different things when you have a regular fan base the way title does.
Starting point is 00:43:35 But, yeah, I just want to shout them out because I thought that was really interesting and really cool. Yeah, shout out the title, man. That's a brave bow move that they did. And I respect that. Do we want to get into to Auntie versus or do we want to get into 3-6 and
Starting point is 00:43:53 in bone thugs because I do want to I know people hate versus talk but I still enjoy it Shaka Khan Stephanie Mills is tonight I believe right yes
Starting point is 00:44:05 as we're recording this I can't wait for that it's um again I like the statement that uh Ms. Shaka Khan put out and saying you know this is just us showcasing
Starting point is 00:44:17 our talents and our catalog and our art for the world it's not a battle, you know, we don't have, we don't dislike each other. It's, you know, we just want to have fun and just, you know, have a great night. And I think that's what Versus turned into. It's not, when it started, I think it was more of a battle thing. But as it progressed and once Trilla
Starting point is 00:44:38 stepped in, it, it, it just became a celebration of just the art and catalog of these amazing, talented, legendary artists that we have in our culture. And Shaka Khan and Stephanie Mills are right up there with the legends. But I mean, I think three six and bone thugs, even though I think it's a weird matchup, would be more of a battle. I think what Chaka Khan said that, I think she was kind of saying,
Starting point is 00:44:59 I don't play y'all little internet games. We're here to listen to some music. I'm tired, like, I don't do the shit y'all. She's probably looked at her YouTube comments or the internet like twice in her life and was like, oh, this is what the fuck y'all do on here? It's just mad negativity and people shitting on each other. Right.
Starting point is 00:45:15 Hey, this is what this is. Now, with 3-6 and bone thugs, I think you could get more of a actual battle out of that. Now, I think it's going to be weird when I'm trying to miss my Uncle Charlie and slob on my knob comes on. But we'll see how these two go back and forth. Yeah, so I found a statement that Shaka Khan release. She said, we don't need no script. We don't need fun and games. We don't need no battles.
Starting point is 00:45:40 We don't need no bullshit. I'm not here to play. I wouldn't battle nobody. It's not a competition. Yeah, that's all that is. I've seen what y'all do on the internet. I'm not playing with that. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:45:51 Y'all are fucking weird and negative. Like, leave me alone. Yeah, I respect that. I respect that coming. I mean, again, I've been felt like that with these verses. It's like, now it's just, it's like a show. You know what I mean? Like, you do a record, I do a record, you know, back and forth type of thing.
Starting point is 00:46:09 But it's, I don't, I don't feel like, even though I felt like the Fat Joe Jaru, Wakana's, it had. That was a battle, though. And that was expected. it because it's hip-hop. Yeah, it was... The locks was definitely a battle. They had Michael Buffer, like, you know,
Starting point is 00:46:24 Stiles was trying to pull Cam off the beach here. Sheik was calling grown-man Pussies. I was like, this is over. I didn't think that we was going to get a single bar that night, but we got a legendary battle that night. Mr. Versus just destroyed everyone. Yeah, yeah. That's fire to me, though, that if you look at this entire versus thing,
Starting point is 00:46:45 of the amount of legends that have been on this, their accomplishments, the music they made everything, that Jadicus is still missed aversus. Yeah, and I, you know, again, I tweeted that night, like, yo, because I saw a lot of people just counting the locks out. And I was like, oh, yeah, I just don't know about the lock. And it's fine.
Starting point is 00:47:05 Like, the locks were from the mid-late 90s. So it's like, you know, a lot of these people that are on the internet watching this thing now, they were born in 99. You know what I mean? So it's kind of like, okay, y'all just don't, y'all weren't outside.
Starting point is 00:47:19 So I understand. But, yeah, I'm going to watch shock and Khan, Stephanie Mills only because it's like, listen, there's two legends, man, why not? I feel you? Yeah. Bring you back to your teenage love affair.
Starting point is 00:47:29 Three six and bone thugs. Another teenage love affair. I don't know if that's love. I don't know if it was any love affairs. I think you might have been in a few. Well, slob on my knob will make you fall in love. For sure. If a girl knows how to slob on your knob correctly.
Starting point is 00:47:44 you will have a love affair. I mean, if she could sing thuggish-ruggish-bone at the right pitch, I might fall in love. Or sing it- Especially when I was a teenager. Or sing it while you're slobbing on my knob. That sounds like a great time.
Starting point is 00:47:55 Wait, what? Yeah, why not? Why not? Sing thuggish-bone. Yeah, you know the, how they flip their syllables? I feel like teeth have to be used when you sing-thuggish-brown.
Starting point is 00:48:07 It's more so like this is the rapid tongue from like, you know what I'm saying? Thuggish-all-all- right, yeah. Yeah, you know what I mean? To me, I'm just like, I'm down. I'd go for it. She can try it. Would you take that girl on vacation?
Starting point is 00:48:20 Yeah, but you got to know, we talked about this. You have to know what type of woman to take where. Like, where you can't take a woman just, you know, you have to know which woman you could take to which vacation destination. Every woman is not Turks worthy. Every woman is not, you know, Hawaii worthy. Every woman is not the Bahamas worthy. Some women you just got to take right to Miami. Okay.
Starting point is 00:48:44 Or, you know, take right to Orchie Beach in the Bronx. Maybe Long Island, maybe Jones Beach or something like that. Or Long Beach. Long Beach is nice. But everybody can't go to the crystal blue waters. But why would you, if the type of girl that you can't take to Turks, you would take to Miami, you could find that girl in Miami. Maybe. Maybe.
Starting point is 00:49:06 You don't need to take her to Miami. Maybe. She's there already. Right. But you have to even, but you still have to know, like, the bigger picture is you have to know. which woman deserves what vacation destination. But I feel like... Because a woman gotta have style.
Starting point is 00:49:21 See, because a lot of women don't have vacation style. They don't have vacation etiquette. They wear the wrong shit on vacation. But it's vacation. Don't matter what you wear. As long as it's nothing. If a woman doesn't have style, she can embarrass you when it's time
Starting point is 00:49:32 to go to dinner at night on a vacation. You're walking at restaurant and like, what the fuck is she wearing? I'm telling you. I mean, but you don't know nobody out there. That's the beauty of vacation. But it's you though. You're sitting across the table
Starting point is 00:49:43 You have to look at this terrible get-up that she chose to wear for the night. You booked a flight. You never saw what she wore before in Turks? But what's I'm saying? You don't know what she packed. You have to trust that you have a woman that's stylish enough to know what to wear
Starting point is 00:49:56 when it's still 80 degrees at night on the island. You know what I mean? Like every woman don't know how to really throw that together. Like you can't go to dinner with her wearing like the fishnet see-through cover-up that she had on a bikini. Like she can't wear that to dinner. Well, she put a formal lingerie under it.
Starting point is 00:50:13 this time for dinner instead instead of the bathing suit oh it's embarrassing because now you're sitting there well what resort are we at it doesn't matter are we at noble in cabo or are we at your you're sitting amongst other grown adults and like your girl walks in with like some fish net see through something for dinner yeah I'm about to bust that down later after these lamb shops she can't see everything ain't for everybody you know what I mean like you got to know where you take who you taking and where you're taking them to I feel like and why I guess men are kind of pieces of shit I feel like the girl you're trying more to court or impress gets the iller vacations than the girl that you already have and know.
Starting point is 00:50:52 Oh, yeah, of course. But even her, you have to know where to take her, though. Because you can be trying to court her and it's new and it's fresh and it's like, you know, but you have to know where to take her. You can't just decide you're going to take her head and then you get to an island and you're like, oh, my God. Now you're stuck for four or five days with this woman that doesn't deserve to be on this island with you. Well, four or five days with a new person, you're setting yourself up. I can't do four or five days with people I've known
Starting point is 00:51:15 for the rest of my entire life. How long would you usually spend on a vacation in the islands? Four days at least. Yeah, all right. Three actual real days. Yeah. And then that fourth for the travel.
Starting point is 00:51:25 Yeah. I can't do, I get irritated real easy. I have to find somebody that I know that we could go explore different parts of this resort for like a couple hours away from each other
Starting point is 00:51:36 and then together. Knows how to have good conversation, likes to laugh, have a good time. But I mean, Just don't get me an itinerary. We spoke to a I hate, don't have an itinerary to my, yo, we got to get up at 8.30 because the shuttle leaves at 10. And we're going to like, don't give me that.
Starting point is 00:51:51 I want to get up when I want to get up on vacation. I'm going to sound really fucking miserable and I'm going to get killed on this. And this is nothing to do with my life experience. I promise you guys, this is really for pod conversation purposes. The wifey vacations, you may not want to waste on the ill trip. That's sick as fuck. You don't want to take Wi-Fi. to the ill destinations?
Starting point is 00:52:15 Because it's going to be a wifey vacation. It's going to be what you just said. It's going to be what you just said. Oh, no, no, no. I'm not saying that. I'm not saying that. Of course. And I'm not saying go take a side somewhere.
Starting point is 00:52:25 I'm just saying, you know, in between when you're just dating a girl, like a new girl, or when you've been with a girl for a long time. I promise it's nothing to do my life. The more I say, the more it sounds like it is, but I promise it's not. Okay. Yeah, them wifey vacation is like, with your family, it feels like at that point. Like, I know you. Yeah, like, don't we can't explore anything about each other.
Starting point is 00:52:47 See, that's fucked up because I feel the opposite. That's a catch-22 of it. Like, with vacations with that type of shit. Because when you are in the courtship and, like, dating and getting to know somebody, the illest places to do it are on, like, vacation. Because it's fun and highs and shit. But you can get to know your girl or your significant other on a vacation to a place that neither of you have ever been. That's true.
Starting point is 00:53:08 I guess you would learn shit together. Yeah, like, if you put yourself in a situation where it's like, okay, I've never done this. And she hasn't done it either. It's like, okay, you do that together. Now you have that memory recorded. And, you know what I mean? Like, because a vacation is, if we're just being honest, like, let's be brutally honest. A vacation is just so we can do stuff during the day.
Starting point is 00:53:26 Your girl could tan or whatever. And then, like, you go back to the room and have nasty sex. Of course. Like, fuck this room entirely up. You got to use 300 towers on vacation. Oh, of course. Like, you have to keep calling downstairs. I come with an extra stack of my own racks.
Starting point is 00:53:40 Yeah, you have to keep calling downstairs. Like, I need 10 more. Like, you know what I'm saying? Like, why does this man keep calling the front desk for towels? Like, because I'm getting nasty in here. It's, and, all right, vacations are a couple things. Because there's levels of the vacation. There is the courtship.
Starting point is 00:53:53 Let's go have fun. Let me get to know you in like a Turks. They're like, well, let's make it for everybody. Like, just a warm location. Yeah. Then there's the I'm really in a relationship and like, let's go to the pyramids and learn about history together. Like, that's when you get into like a full. Let's go to Guam and understand indigenous cultures.
Starting point is 00:54:10 You take a girl to the pyramids. Y'all better be engaged. married. That's what I'm saying. No, this is at like the real wifey, wifey stage where those vacations... Like, if I'm taking you to see King Tut, we're married. 100%. Yeah. Yeah, absolutely. It's not Dubai, even if they're close. It's not Dubai, like, let me piss on this girl in this foreign state. It's a weird
Starting point is 00:54:26 cycle, and I've observed it. You go from the hot, warm places to court, then you go travel to like weird locations to learn history and like get to know and be an adult and all that bullshit. And then once that phase is over, you're now at the, I've known this person way too fucking. I've known this person way too fucking long. Let's go back to the hot, warm resort to see if we can make this thing work again. Let's try to do what we used to do and it won't work.
Starting point is 00:54:52 You got to use vacations kind of like a, let's see if the fire is still there between us. How many times have you been to like a warm resort or location? You could even say Miami and seen that old couple like just trying to make it work. You can tell like, yo, no, y'all should go back to Paris. Yeah, like she's in the pool. He's at the bar. They're not speaking to each other. No. Yeah, you know that couple. It's like, okay, they're trying to make it work, but it looked like it's over with.
Starting point is 00:55:16 And that's just the three levels of vacationing. Yeah, you got it. You have to know who you're taking and where you're taking them. Like, that's a real thing because I've had some horrible, like, some of the homies called me like, yo, I'm like, what happened to girl you took to? Bro, we went out there. She got drunk and I had to carry her out of the thing and she was cursing the staff. Things could go bad, like really bad.
Starting point is 00:55:38 Like, wherever you took her, she got drunk and started cursing the staff on it. now you're here and these people have to look at you every you know they talk about you in the office like yo that couple in room whatever like yo she's an asshole so now that your vacation is ruined it's like and then you know you didn't even know this girl had that side to her we should get drunk like that and curses people out you still got two days left well deal with it that's why you had to take her to griffin to figure that out exactly take it somewhere local get to know her first because you don't know where you're taking them you can't take everybody can't go everywhere that's the bottom line you gotta know where you're taking these girls you're which vacation, who deserves which destination. Because everybody can't go to the same place. Do you think a vacation is a good time to ask a girl for a threesome? I think that's the best place. If a girl that you actually like... If you see a catching rhythm with another lady there, like, you know, at the pool kicking
Starting point is 00:56:25 it and like, oh, we're going to go to the bar or we're going to go get something to eat and you kind of see her getting like a little... But it's more so... Is it a threesome or is it a swing this thing? Because nine times out of ten, she's probably with a man, the other chick. Well, that's where you have to figure out of those types of places you take, which girl to take to what place. Because there's a lot of resorts that a lot of single people are at. It's not the couple's resort.
Starting point is 00:56:50 Yeah, absolutely. And hedonism in Jamaica is terrible, by the way. I don't know if I haven't been. Yeah, my home boys went twice and they was like, bro, you know, because I thought hedonism was the shit. Like there's a bunch of beautiful naked women. No, all old couples walking around. Ass naked too. Yeah, titties out, saggy asses.
Starting point is 00:57:08 No, no. Nude beaches. Like even the ones in Jersey Like yeah It's just gonna be a bunch of new people you don't If you don't want to just be naked And be by yourself don't go to a new beach New beaches is not ill
Starting point is 00:57:20 It's not what you think It's definitely not what you think Which is why I never went Like after a couple of the homies went They're like terrible I'm like okay cool I ain't going there I will say though to Carl's point If you're with like your girl girl
Starting point is 00:57:32 That's not like y'all don't already have That threesome relationship Vacation would be the only place that it would pop off. Like it would have to be, you'd have to find someone, something about when girls are not in their hometown
Starting point is 00:57:46 or like anywhere around anyone that would know them or judge them, they become themselves that they wanted to become. And I'm not saying that's a bad thing. That's a good thing because that woman makes a great mother. But if you get her on that vacation vibe
Starting point is 00:58:02 and she lets loose, maybe you can learn some shit about wifey. I was talking to a friend of mine and she, because you know, the whole I never had a threesome thing. She thought I was like lying about it. I'm like, no, honestly. No, never had a threesome.
Starting point is 00:58:13 And she basically confirmed what I always felt about threesome. Like, it's really not, it's kind of overrated. It's for them. It's not for you. Yeah. So she was like, yo, honestly, you're not really missing anything. And I, but I always felt like that. Like, I never felt like having the threesome was something that I needed to do.
Starting point is 00:58:32 I will, all right, at this point, before we beat this into the ground, because we're talking about vacation, wifie, all that shit. You should do that with wifey. And I always say that the opposite. Don't ever do threesome with that. But it is fun. It's like a bonding experience to fuck a girl together. That's a different type of threesome.
Starting point is 00:58:51 There's three sums where three people are having sex. And then there's threesomes where you and this girl are going to go fuck that girl. That's true. Yeah, I don't know if I'm doing that. It's drastically different. I don't know if I'm doing. It's a funny thing. Wifee, no.
Starting point is 00:59:04 Now you wake up like together like, yeah, we did that. No. We smoked her, you know what I mean? We smoked her boots. No, not. Not with wife, you can't do that? Yeah, why not? That's sick.
Starting point is 00:59:14 Nah, I don't think I could do that. Not with wifey. Why not? She could be a tongue kissing her. You know what I mean? All right, relax. Yeah, Carl. You're so crazy in his own little cubby.
Starting point is 00:59:25 He got nasty real quick, right? Yeah, I don't know, man. But, yeah, a friend of mine, she confirmed it. Like, you're not really messing up. Or she was saying, like, yo, we should go fuck a girl together. No, she's vocal enough that she would have said that. Okay. Yeah, she's, she doesn't, she's not shy, though.
Starting point is 00:59:42 She would have definitely said that. But yeah, she's like, I mean, if you want to do it, do it, but you're not missing shit. Just don't force it, like I've always said. Is there any other shit that we have to hit on a more fun type of level? I know Adele drops tonight while we're recording this. Friday, we'll be out tomorrow or today when you're listening to this. I know you're not like the Adele guy the way I am
Starting point is 01:00:11 I love Adele shout out to my guy Rich Paul I love Adele I didn't know Rich Paul and Adele knew each other Shut up What are you talking about Am I missing something You didn't know Rich Paul and Adele were like
Starting point is 01:00:24 dating they were together Are you done? No That's his girlfriend What's wrong with you? You serious? That's Rich's girl, yeah Oh it's amazing
Starting point is 01:00:32 Yeah Oh well Tell Rich You want tickets This girl's music is great One ticket Look at you now Like rich as rich
Starting point is 01:00:40 I didn't know I didn't know it Yeah Oh wow You didn't see the Oprah The Oprah special No Yeah they
Starting point is 01:00:45 They rich Rich posted the pictures They like sat with Oprah Together I actually feel really good That I don't know that Yeah That makes me feel better
Starting point is 01:00:53 About myself That I really don't know What's going on Yeah No I love Adel's music Adelaism She's one of the ones Oh 100%
Starting point is 01:01:01 Yeah we know that She's one of the ones Well I'm really excited about this album Really I'm looking forward to it. I'm looking forward to it. We haven't heard from Adele in a minute.
Starting point is 01:01:10 So, yeah, I'm looking forward to hearing when she cooked up. Yeah. And I mean, Ravens took all the photos, so it's going to be great. Oh, really? Oh, dope. Yeah, Raven's been Adele's photographer
Starting point is 01:01:21 for a little while now. She took photos of us. I didn't hear the camera go off. I don't know if the camera, the photos ever really happened. It didn't hit the same way it hit Adele. I probably. Yeah, she told us.
Starting point is 01:01:29 She said, no, stand right here. We didn't look to say. We stood there and then it was just old. She just walked away. I was like, did she take it? We ain't look as good as a devil. Yeah, like, yeah. It's like I look like Rich.
Starting point is 01:01:38 You look like Adele. I don't know. I don't know. But yeah, shout out to Raven. That's dope. That she, uh, Raven's doing, she's doing dope shit, man. Of course. I remember having a conversation with Raven years ago when she first spoke to me about getting
Starting point is 01:01:52 into taking photos. And I told her, I was like, yo, that's dope. Go for that shit. Like, you know what I mean to do? Like, she didn't know anything about it. I remember too? She just said she wanted to buy a camera and jump into it. And she had an idea for a series.
Starting point is 01:02:03 I don't know if she ever did it. Well, she didn't call me to take a photo, but she had a really dope idea for a series of photos she wanted to do. I'm not sure she did it, but she should definitely do that because I thought that that was an amazing idea thing. I think so. Did she do that? She did it, yeah.
Starting point is 01:02:17 That was the first series that, like, really popped off her. Ravy, be the photographer that people that don't know, Jay Z, Beyonce, all that shit. One of my best friends. Shout out to Raven, man. Wow, I see, I didn't know I had all these people that were so close to Adele in my life. Yeah, man. Here I am big playing her in the studio
Starting point is 01:02:35 Y'all are like, hey, are you sad? I'm like, no, I just like Adele. No, Adele's, she's Thomas' classic voice, man. She's amazing. Adele's amazing. I would like out of this album, like, some features. I know she doesn't do that type of shit.
Starting point is 01:02:52 I would like to hear like some crewing duets. And we don't get in the Dell leak in the trackless, do we? That doesn't happen with Adele, does it? I doubt it. Let me see on the pre-order. Yeah, I would love to see, like, the trackless, just to see, like, what we're going to get.
Starting point is 01:03:02 What if we see like a 21 Savage feature with Adele? Oh no. We have with Errol Garner. Okay. I feel like there's going to be, and I really don't have any inside information, I promise. I feel like there's going to be some sneaky features in here because I feel like she hasn't done that shit before.
Starting point is 01:03:19 Yeah, I hope so. Like I need a crooning James Blake Adele duet. But everybody, it would have to be the special ones though because everybody can't hang with Adele on the track. So, yeah, I would love to see some things. I just feel like James could out sad her. You think so? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:03:35 Well, Adele's happy now, so that might be. Yeah, so you might be writing that. She's happy now, so. Hey, Rich, I better not get no fucking happy music on this album. Yeah, Rich. If it's too, if it's too heavy on the happy, man, we're going to have to get in the group text. I don't like this. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:03:49 Take Rich to the strip club, give him some lap dances, piss Adel off. Secretly videotape them. Get back to the real shit, yeah. Even if Rich does nothing. I photoshop it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Get Pige on it. He'll make it happen.
Starting point is 01:04:03 He'll disturb that home in a minute. Is there any other music coming out tomorrow? Do you all know? I've been traveling. I've been traveling. Oh, Silk Sonic came out. I know we talked about on stage so much. They did.
Starting point is 01:04:14 I feel like we're repeating ourselves. I fucking hate we do live shows. And I forget that. And I love the fact that they kept it. They didn't go crazy. What is it? Nine tracks? I love that.
Starting point is 01:04:24 I love that. Do you feel like this is an Anderson pack? You said that. Featuring Bruno Mars. No, man. Bruno is Bruno, man. I didn't say he wasn't. Yeah, no, but we're not going to say featuring.
Starting point is 01:04:35 Like, nah, Bruno is Bruno. This is Silk Sonic. No, he killed Anderson's backgrounds. He killed his leads, too. I'm not going to let you get up to Bruno. He killed his fucking leaves, man. Bruno's amazing. I just feel like Anderson kind of.
Starting point is 01:04:49 He shone more on this, you think? Yeah, and I feel like how we kept saying, whose world are they going to go into, even though Bruno obviously does this type of music. Absolutely. As how they delivered it, like even on certain cadences and shit, it was times at one point
Starting point is 01:05:03 I thought Bruno was Anderson like he was I felt like he was delivering like Anderson on most records okay
Starting point is 01:05:08 he wasn't delivering like Bruno which I'm fine with because I really enjoy the project and I do want to do a lyric breakdown on one of those joints
Starting point is 01:05:15 next episode because cool because they've been through some shit I love the subtly I love the project they got
Starting point is 01:05:22 Booty Collins on there on some of the intros which is dope so yeah I like this album man I think it was
Starting point is 01:05:29 it was worth the wait I think they may have waited maybe two months too late to drop it. I feel like two months ago would have been perfect to drop it. I mean, we said we like taking their time. Yeah. But I'm not mad that they made us.
Starting point is 01:05:43 Taking time for nine. Yeah, I get it. You know, it was like, because when we got the first single one, was it January? Long time ago. You know what I mean? So it was like they really rolled this thing out, slow cooked it, made us wait. They didn't want the music to just be microwave. You know, people's songs come out and they just listen for a week.
Starting point is 01:05:59 And then that's it. So they really wanted to slow cook this. but it's a great project. What did you think about smoking out the window? Love it. What about like the contents of it? I think it was right on brink. I've seen a lot of people calling it like, you know, parody shit and all that.
Starting point is 01:06:12 Oh no, I was talking about like just how you, the way they were explaining the girl. They were sent in for sure. That they were going with the first verse, they broke down like who she like, yo, she was a hoe. She had a kid. Her man was almost got me beat the fuck up. Everything was like, yo, let me take her on vacation. Yeah, yeah, you definitely want to take. She needs it.
Starting point is 01:06:32 She needs it. I don't want to judge them because, not to say I've been in that situation, but I've come close. Mm-hmm. It was so many red flags in that first verse. And then it was like, now I'm just sitting here smoking out of the window. Like, sir, did you listen to your own first verse? Right, right. No, I thought the song was dope.
Starting point is 01:06:50 I thought it was a perfect last single for the project. Yeah. The music is crazy. The vocals of the Anderson Pack and Bruno. Thundercat on there too. Yeah, they date. This entire project, every song to me is like, and I'm glad it's not tuned. Like, nine tracks was perfect.
Starting point is 01:07:07 31 minutes, yeah. Perfect. That was a perfect, perfect, perfect amount of music for that type of vibe and that type of sound. I just want to do more of a deep dive. I want to sit with them just to talk about smoking out of the window. Like, I need to hear about this relationship with this girl that you did. I want to sit with them to talk about just the entire project and the way they rolled it out. Like, to me, that was real brave and bold for them to do that in the era where, you know,
Starting point is 01:07:30 Like you said, we get music every week now. Yeah. So I like the fact that they slow cooked it and, you know, they gave it to us in doses and then gave us the full course. And they delivered. They didn't drop the ball. The album is dope. The music is incredible.
Starting point is 01:07:44 The vocals are incredible. I know you like to say it's almost too perfect. On this one, it still kind of is. It is still Bruno in that capacity as it's extremely polished. But I think I need to see this album live. Oh, I can't wait Because I think you'll get some of the more warm imperfections and not polish it
Starting point is 01:08:07 With the live band And I know they're gonna Seeing them live is a must You have to see this This album to me I think will make more sense Live than it does on record And then live the band gets to play with The music a little more
Starting point is 01:08:20 And we know Anderson and Bruno Together both with their own I still tell people Bruno Marr still has one of the best Half-Times Super Bowl shows Ever Well he's done the last seven So you talk about the one with with Beyonce, which one is talking about?
Starting point is 01:08:34 Any of them. He's just one of those performers that anytime he touches the stage, it's a full out performance. Like, he's a performer, entertaining every sense of the word. This may sound blasphemous to a lot of people. Where do you rank it with the weekends last year? Or this year. That was this year, right? This year.
Starting point is 01:08:53 This year. The weekends was dope visually, especially with the whole COVID shit and him using the bandages all year walking around like that in character. I think he played into that perfectly with all of the dancers and everybody. You know, moving pieces had to wear masks, obviously. I think the weekend played into that amazingly.
Starting point is 01:09:13 Vocally, it wasn't, I mean, the weekend is not strong as vocally as Bruno. Of course not. I just think the performance in itself was... It was, no, they went on a lot. That shit was crazy to me. No, no, the weekend shit was, it was definitely one of the best we've seen.
Starting point is 01:09:28 I don't know who was the internet thing. where that mob mentality where people will have to start to hate something when one person starts. But to me that weekend shit was incredible. I don't know why everyone
Starting point is 01:09:38 hated that shit. I went back and watched it. Even I think I may have a few comments about it but then I watched it again. I was like, this shit is incredible. Yeah, I think some people were more so talking about the vocal performance
Starting point is 01:09:49 more than anything. You know what I mean? But I think that he visually, what they were able to do with that performance for the weekend was amazing. And then we have what, Drain and Snoop this year?
Starting point is 01:10:00 Dre, Snoop, Mary, Eminem. I feel like I'm missing. Kendrick. Yeah. Oh, that's going to be crazy. Yeah. That's going to be an insane medley. Oh, wow.
Starting point is 01:10:14 And it's in L.A., right? I believe so. I'm not sure. Yeah, I think it's at the Sophie Field or whatever that shit is called. The crypto.com football field. That's a terrible day. That's a terrible name. Oh, I know we killed Hope for all that, but I mean, at least we get all those
Starting point is 01:10:35 performance at halftime. He got it right. No, but in this, but in this era, though, of like the football fan and how crazy they've gotten about, like, don't bring anything black around me except for the players. Don't hit hop us to death? Yeah. That line up is fucking nuts. I'm pissing people off.
Starting point is 01:10:50 That's going to be hysterical. And there's no Garth? You know football fans want their Garth Brooks at halftime. Bruce Springsteen is not on this bill. Yeah, no, they pissed off about that. They won Garth, they won Bruce. Not this year. And you know Kendrick's going to...
Starting point is 01:11:04 He's going to go crazy. He's going to go crazy. It was good to see Kendrick. Might be a whole African tribe on that stage. Yeah, he's going to go crazy. He's going to go absolutely crazy. He might wrap his whole set on one knee. I'm not mad.
Starting point is 01:11:15 That's fire. I love that. That's fire. I'm not mad at that. I'm definitely not mad at that. And put the American flag behind him. He might freestyle over the fucking Star Spangled Banner on one knee. If he do that, it's going to be a riot.
Starting point is 01:11:27 You know, they can't. You can't mess up the Star Spangled Banner. Don't remix the Star Spangled. Kendrick, I know you're not listening, but... We know you won't hear this. Should even do... I don't know. If you do the Pledge of Allegiance somehow remix it,
Starting point is 01:11:42 do something to just piss off white people. Yeah. Oh, no, I think them just being in the building is pissing people off. I think everyone should forgive Jay for however they viewed that entire deal with the NFL. If he freestyles... They still don't know what the deal was.
Starting point is 01:11:56 If he freestyles over the Star Spangled Banner. on one knee, then it's all worth it. That's going to be the last year for that shit. I can guarantee if that happens, that line up going to look very different next year. What if they say all those names and Cap just comes out to just an empty stage? It's like, hey, I'd like to talk to you guys
Starting point is 01:12:15 about police brutality. No, Drey, no Snoop, no Mary. I would love for them to try to incorporate Kaepernick in some form of fashion. I would love that. Why not? Of course, I don't know the deal or anything like that, But Jay, you still have to play the game somewhere.
Starting point is 01:12:33 The NFL is not allowing. Kaepernick is going to be at the halftime season. No, no, no, no. I'm not saying, I'm just saying incorporate him somehow. I'm not saying he has to be there. I mean, I'm sure they're not picking their wardrobe. Everyone could wear seven jerseys. That I'm sure Kendrick would probably do the Afro.
Starting point is 01:12:48 You know what I mean? Like, just little things like that, a little subtle. Are we sure of this lineup? We're just talking shit right now. No, that's that's a lot of money for sure. Yeah, that's been announced. That day in Vegas shit, I will say, I have not, like, envied missing a performance in quite some time.
Starting point is 01:13:03 That Kendrick shit looked in. Yeah, it looked, it looked like just seeing him in that whole, and what he was wearing, it gave, you know, the whole retro vibe. It was, it was Kendrick in every sense of the word. Like, he's doing his own thing. He doesn't look like nobody. He doesn't sound like nobody. And it just looks like he's now in a different, in his life.
Starting point is 01:13:28 You can tell he's in a different space. He's doing something. something totally different. He's all the way in his art bag, his creative energy, and everything is intentional. Yeah. From, you know, his image and his aesthetics and wardrobe and music was always intentional with him. But you can tell now he's he's a complete artist. He's a complete artist now. And the records he chose to perform to like, like seasides off of Good Kid Mad City. He was performing. I was like, all right, this is one of those. I would have still. those thing about me when you got his bag on that.
Starting point is 01:14:02 I was like, I would have loved to see that performed at a festival. And just even with the stage presence he had, with all the dancers and the certain type of choreographical shit he was doing like, that was one of those shows. I like seeing artists disappear and come back and look totally different, but still sound sharp.
Starting point is 01:14:20 Only few get that luxury. Oh, absolutely. We know that. On the greats. The legends get that luxury. And it's good to see them come back and they haven't missed a beat. They still sharp.
Starting point is 01:14:29 the music isn't suffering. I just like that. I love seeing artists, you know, stay out of the public eye for a while, and then when you see them, it's like they look good. They sound amazing, and that's what Kendrick did with a day in Vegas.
Starting point is 01:14:43 He looked great, sound amazing. And I can't wait for new music for me. Honestly, he's one of those dudes that you look at, like, you know, Kendrick is recording. He's back in the studio. Like, even when you hear that, you're like, okay, cool. Yeah. And shout out to Dan Vegas, to my understanding.
Starting point is 01:14:57 I didn't see any major. crazy health things. I didn't see anyone passed away. Didn't see anything outside of the norm for a festival. So shout out to them
Starting point is 01:15:07 for putting on a safe show, especially at that capacity because, I mean, to me, that's probably the best lineup I've seen in quite some time for any festival
Starting point is 01:15:15 and the amount of acts and the amount of people three days. Like, that's some hard shit to pull off. Yeah. So shout out to everyone behind that.
Starting point is 01:15:23 If someone did some help problems, I wasn't aware and condolences, but. Yeah, no, that sucks that we couldn't do there. Yeah. But to talk about somebody that definitely preached being an amazing father, unfortunately, young Dolph passed away on Wednesday in Memphis.
Starting point is 01:15:49 And I believe it was a cookie store that he had been promoting for quite some time. And I will say, I don't know the politics behind anything that's going on. thing I do know is somebody that was an amazing talent. And from what we see, an amazing family man passed away. And that shit is extremely unfortunate. It's unfortunate, but it's so familiar. And it's unfortunate to say that me personally as a black man, I've become numb to it. It won't be the last.
Starting point is 01:16:26 It's unfortunate to say it won't be the last. And it's a cycle that as black men or black people that we've just been caught up in for so many years. It's, you know, this street mentality, this energy that we walk with and we live within our communities. It's so toxic and so, you know, so much trauma behind it. And, you know, coming from somebody that lost a brother to gun violence, it changes you. It changes the family. You no longer have a certain trust that you had in people. When someone is taken away from you like that,
Starting point is 01:17:05 it changes you forever. It turns you into this cold person that, you know, you have a hard time looking at people and really trust them. Yeah. Because something in someone that you love so much and cared about was taken away due to gun violence. And it just perpetuates more situations. You know, more families will suffer.
Starting point is 01:17:30 It's just more black children growing up without their father. A black woman having to raise kids without, you know, her husband. And all for what? Yeah. You know, it's like, what is it all for? What is it all about? And it's, again, it's just this nasty cycle and this nasty energy that we have in our community. That I think that, I don't know if we'll,
Starting point is 01:17:57 ever truly break out of it because you know you look at the world now and the opportunity and the access that we have with the internet and you know being able to be entrepreneurs there's so many young entrepreneurs now a lot of young creatives making a lot of money um information is is so available these days uh so you you ask yourself and you know you still a lot of these communities there's still not a lot of resources it's still not a lot of uh you know jobs and, you know, programs available in certain areas of the country that need to be addressed, and we know that. But here's a guy that loved his city, wrapped his city all over the world, wherever he went,
Starting point is 01:18:42 openly gave to people, gave opportunity, supported people, put people in position to do better things with their lives and better themselves. It was very big on, you know, giving. He always spoke about giving opportunity, giving them. because he didn't have opportunities. So when he wasn't put in a position to give people an opportunity, he made sure he did that. You know, it was into real estate.
Starting point is 01:19:07 He has a real estate catalog already set up for his kids. They own a lot of properties. I was reading. He owned all of his masters. You know, so he was one of those minds that just understood that he had to be the guy to break the cycle and break the chain of, you know, how he does business and how he moves as a business.
Starting point is 01:19:27 man and the way he sets up his kids future. So it was just unfortunate to see him taken from his family and taking from the culture in his own backyard in the city that he loved, supporting a business that was black-owned. You know, and it's unfortunate, man. Like, you know, I bumped in the Gulf when we were in Atlanta or when I was in Atlanta early this year at the airport. We were going through TSA together, like literally right behind each other. But, you know, you have the mask on, so you really can't see people faces anymore.
Starting point is 01:20:01 But, you know, you had to take his jacket off, so it's the Dolph chain and all. I said, oh, that's dope. And I just made sure I gave him dapp and I said, yo, like, I fuck with you. Like, you know, I like what you're doing. I like the things that you're saying. I like the way you move, you know, like you're doing it right. And it was a quick exchange, gave each other dapp and went out separate ways. But it was just unfortunate to receive that news and to read that online and to see the images and stuff like that.
Starting point is 01:20:27 and we don't realize how much trauma that gives us you know what I'm saying like when we see people in our culture being taken like that because we just so used to scrolling scrolling scrolling scrolling like we don't realize that that shit stays with us those images stay with us yeah like and it's unfortunate man because here's a guy that from his city like Nitt was trying to do some positive things
Starting point is 01:20:47 and trying to support and put people in position to better themselves and give back to the community and love his people and you know his own people taking them out. It's tragic. It's unfortunate. Again, more black children now growing up without their father.
Starting point is 01:21:05 Yeah, and it's just, you know, I'm just being honest. I don't know if it'll ever stop. I don't know if I'll be alive for it. I hope it stops. I don't know if I'll be here to see it, but, you know, it's unfortunate. Like, this is, it's an unfortunate thing that in our culture we are so accustomed to
Starting point is 01:21:22 and so used to, that it's a shame. you know again it's it's not the last and that's the thing that bothers me is that this is not going to be the last yeah and unfortunately not everyone's famous so not the last could be happening right now in the next hour everything that is really sad that everyone doesn't even get the proper attention when the same situation does happen right because they're not famous and also could be doing just as much positive shit in the world. So that also kind of doubles down on how sad that entire thing can be. But prayers for Dawes' family for his two kids, his wife.
Starting point is 01:22:09 It's funny when you brought up. And continue to support them. Because, you know, a lot of people, again, I'm speaking from experience. A lot of people who are there when, you know, it first happens. And, you know, they're there for the family to reach out with those calls stop, those visits. The support stops. And, you know, not saying that, you know, life goes on. I don't want to sound harsh, but that's just the reality life will go on.
Starting point is 01:22:36 But it's important to always reach back to families that go through tragedy like this, especially when the kids are so young because, you know, they grow up with so many questions. Yeah. They grow up with so many, you know, things in their mind. and it's important to have a, you know, a village of people around them that love and support them and let them know that we're still here. And your father was doing great things. You know, he was, he had a lot of morals, a lot of integrity that he stood on. And, you know, he was trying to make effective change in his family and in his community.
Starting point is 01:23:12 And that's something that I don't think should fade away. I think we should keep, you know, preaching that and let people know that Dolf was doing it right. Yeah, he was saying the right things. He was doing the right things. He was standing on with his words that he spoke. Yeah, and it's just sad, man. That shit is, that shit is a sad, sad thing that, you know, it's so, it's just, like, I'm just numb to the shit.
Starting point is 01:23:36 You know what I'm saying? Like, you just see it all the time. You hear it all the time. It's not surprising. It's more so, like, damn, again. You know, like, we still with this shit. We're still doing this shit. And, you know, again, you know, there's people that will say, oh, but, you know, it
Starting point is 01:23:50 some real, you know, he had a lot of street shit going on. So what, man? Like, that shit is so played out. Like, you know, that street shit, I don't know. I just saw a statement, a press release today that the feds paid out almost $600 million to informants this year. Yeah. So if that ain't telling you that the streets is over with, you know what I mean? Like, informants are being paid out in a year, $600 million.
Starting point is 01:24:16 That street shit is over with, man. Like, you niggas better get education. You niggas better, you know Try to pick up a trade Create some shit That street shit is over with Fucking cameras everywhere Yeah like that you just
Starting point is 01:24:30 You're playing a game It's literally cameras everywhere Yeah like you just waiting for your number To be called to be either killed or thrown And thrown in jail for the rest of your life You know what I mean? It's like But it's been this way for years
Starting point is 01:24:40 And that's what I'm saying I just don't know if it ever changed Because it was this way when I was 16 Yeah You know what I mean Like I'm not gonna act like I know anything really about it So I don't want to Yeah, no, it's just, it's a cycle, man.
Starting point is 01:24:53 It's like we just caught in this this, this fucked up cycle of, you know, hate and jealousy and envy and trauma and, you know, ego and insecurities. And it's just like a cycle of all of these things that affect our community and that kill our community. And, you know, it's, again, you have people that make an effective change and trying to make change in their community, supporting their community, putting people in position, again, like a Nipsey, you know, like a Dolph. and then you see this type of shit happen. It's unfortunate, and again, man,
Starting point is 01:25:24 I just pray for his kids and his wife and his family because, like I said, I've been there. I know that pain. It doesn't go away. You just learn to live with it. And hopefully, like I said, I probably won't be here to see it, but hopefully shit changes in our community and we start to love and support each other
Starting point is 01:25:42 and talk more about our issues with each other and, you know, handle things differently. But this killing each other shit, this shit is corny, man. Like taking people away from their families and, you know, their loved ones and you just took somebody out of the community that was making effective change
Starting point is 01:25:57 that was trying to create opportunities for everybody. So it's like now who's there to do that? You know what I mean? So now it's like we set we're setting ourselves back by taking these leaders out of our community and these people that really want to make things happen in a positive way. So prayers to Dolf, you know, God rest of the soul.
Starting point is 01:26:15 Prayers to his kids, prayers to his wife. his loved ones, his friends, his fans. And, you know, continue to support each other and love each other. Yeah, for sure. I said that perfect. I don't want to end on such a somber note, but I think everything you said there was so important. Yeah, the shit is just kind of getting corny and annoying that this is a headline every fucking day.
Starting point is 01:26:49 It's tragic, man And again, I love my people, I love my community But, you know, this is why When people see success, they don't want to come back Yeah When people make money, they don't want to come back Because you got, you know, there's this jealousy And this energy that is in our community
Starting point is 01:27:05 That, you know, it's just, it's cancerous You know what I mean? And it's like we, I don't know You know, you try to think about scenarios where, you know, you try to figure out like why and it's just always the same shit. It's like, it doesn't even matter why. It's just like, it just keeps happening and it's, you know, again, like, and like the
Starting point is 01:27:28 unfortunate part is it won't be the last. That's the unfortunate part, you know, like reading that, it was just like, damn, you know, Dolf, you know, you know everything he was saying, everything he was doing. But it's like, you know, this is not going to be the last. That's the part that really bothers me. It's like, this will not be the last. Well, I think everything that you wrote up before is always the why. It doesn't matter the real scenario.
Starting point is 01:27:50 The wise always comes from a traumatic experience or hereditary trauma that's been happening for so long and that type of shit builds up ego. It builds up pride. It builds up being on defense all the time. It builds up feeling like, all right, if they did this, I got to do that. So that's really where it comes from, which of course we all know is way more deep-rooted in this country to begin with.
Starting point is 01:28:15 So it's, yeah, it never really is the details. because we do know the why. Right. And how to fix that? Fuck if I know. But it's just unfortunate to see all the time. Even when you don't know or know the details. Right.
Starting point is 01:28:32 Like it still sucks. I don't care if there was a reason or whatever. It just still sucks. Like, damn, all right. It doesn't have to go to that. Yeah. You know what I mean? I get, we're going to have our issues.
Starting point is 01:28:42 We're going to have our disagreements and one another. Like, you know, it's not a perfect world. We know that. we got to find a different way to handle these problems and these issues with each other because this is not you know this is not the answer this is not it this is this is just more black kids going up without their fathers yeah and seeing all those videos which you know I never followed Dolf on on socials or anything but of course
Starting point is 01:29:08 when this happened all those videos of his kids came out and his interactions with the kids that was definitely difficult to watch yeah so you know I guess in better news, Julius Jones looked like he's not being executed today from my understanding. Good. From what I saw earlier. I'm not sure exactly where that case is at because we are recording this right now, but I did see on the way in here that that would not be happening today if it did happen. Very interesting case.
Starting point is 01:29:42 My man Rich, who we shot that first sketch ever. This is his first cousin. Wow. So, you know, I'm glad to see that. And shout out to, I saw a lot of, I like when celebrity shit does work. So I'm going crazy with it. And shit. Kim, too.
Starting point is 01:29:59 Kim Kardashian. I know we shit all the time. Like, I like to see when that type of attention works, but I don't want to take away from the people that bring it to the celebrities' attention. The people that put the footwork in before. You appreciate the celebrities pushing it and making it, you know, using their platform to amplify it. But it's really Everyone in the country really got that shit moving To get it to that place
Starting point is 01:30:21 And let's keep doing that You know Let's keep raising awareness Let's keep praying Let's keep you know Calling whoever we need to call Local officials Because again it's just not
Starting point is 01:30:34 Even if you know nothing about this case You just read little things You know that Okay something isn't right And it's funny When you watched all the media coverage Of like after George Floyd And the countless things that we've
Starting point is 01:30:45 seen with the quote unquote riots even when they're not riots but like protests and just people being in the street there was a larger game plan with that because now it has officials scared and I like that because I think had everything not happened with George Floyd and the countless other names and the countless other cities where that type of stuff had happened where there were protests there were marches there were coming together make it there were riots too, good. Yeah. Now it has everyone shook.
Starting point is 01:31:17 So now when shit isn't going to go the way it's supposed to, yeah, you should be scared. Yeah. Because if you go through with this, it's your city next. Yeah. I agree. So that's the plan people don't see in the media of like, oh my God, why would they do this? Now, they're doing it to scare your city. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:31:32 And to let you know that, you know, we care about each other. Yeah. And that we're going to come out and we're going to support each other. Again, support and love each other. And this is the type of change that you can make. you can get officials to start second guessing like okay we need to look deep into this we need to really fine comb this thing maybe we miss something maybe you know what I'm saying the law isn't right right here like things like that you know again that's all you can ask is that people raise
Starting point is 01:31:58 awareness use their voices and to create effective change in a positive way and that and that's where they miss that word matter his life matters so if you don't take a concern in his life yeah we're going to show you that it matters Absolutely Like we're going to go out there And if you want to say how dare you lude How dare you tag this shit up How dare you stop traffic during holiday season
Starting point is 01:32:26 Nah fuck that this person mattered And we're showing you that they fucking mattered So be on alert The next time you run into a spot Where someone you don't care about You have their decision to live or die So yeah I'm glad Yeah
Starting point is 01:32:41 I think this all trickled down with everything that happened this year and last year specifically. I think it's all tied in. And I think everyone needs to kind of shut up about those protests and those riots of what was the point of them. This was the point of them.
Starting point is 01:32:57 Yeah, you got to get your local government a little shook. Yeah, disrupt the system. Absolutely. Shout out to everyone that was behind this entire thing. And prayers to him and his family, you know, and hopefully like,
Starting point is 01:33:10 we keep pushing and keep this thing going to where he is released and freed from prison. Yeah, for sure. I do believe he's wrongfully convicted of something that he didn't do. I believe that based on what I've read about the case and things like that, like I do absolutely believe that this is wrong. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:33:26 No, for certain. Yeah, that's cool. Well, then we can wrap up here. I know there were some somber things. It was kind of a somber week, but we're definitely all going to keep it pushing. And we'll be back with some funnies and some laughs as well, but there was definitely some things that need to be addressed today.
Starting point is 01:33:47 And yeah, I guess I guess we'll be back. We'll be back. What's today? Today is Friday. Okay. Yeah, so we'll be back. We'll be back Saturday with the video,
Starting point is 01:34:00 Tuesday with the next audio. Yeah. And yeah, I don't know. And we got merch coming soon. I didn't want to say that, let people know they've been reaching out, seeing some pictures from the shows, that the merch was available at the show,
Starting point is 01:34:12 merch will be available online real soon. Which came out incredible, by the way. Thank you. Shout out. Shout out to the guys at Vanity. Shout out to Aunt. Shout out to G. They did an amazing job. We collabed on some ideas, and I leaned on them for their expertise.
Starting point is 01:34:32 Shout out to everybody at May Brands, Dustin. Shout out to Biggs, putting that whole play together. And, yeah, I'm excited, man. We've got a lot of dope shit that we're going to try to get done. in the next few months with this merch thing just paying attention to the details you know what I mean doing some real fly shit
Starting point is 01:34:49 we don't want to just do merch just to do it I really want to do some real dope creative shit in this space so I get it you podcast gun fuck you guys you are that's cool yeah but merch available soon because they have been asking online and you know people like oh it's not fair
Starting point is 01:35:05 we don't have merch but yeah it's coming yeah it's just a little difference not just regular merch yeah no this is different some shit that you can't you could wash twice. It's over for the t-shirt. No, this ain't that.
Starting point is 01:35:15 This ain't that. So yeah, merch coming soon. And shout out to everybody. It came out to the live shows once again. New York. Thank you. L.A., thank you. St. John.
Starting point is 01:35:24 Thank you. Guru, thank you. Waleigh, thank you. Ari, thank you. Justice, boogie. Rees. Just bug, reese. Hop, thank you.
Starting point is 01:35:36 First Choice DJ at New York. DJ First Choice. Thank you. Yeah, man. and we'll have some more cities coming soon, 2022. Hopefully we get to see a lot of the states and touch a lot of the... I don't want to say touch the people.
Starting point is 01:35:51 That sounds crazy. I mean, you could... I don't want to touch... You could touch the people. But that's the type of shit. You might touch the hands of people. You may touch a woman. No, I will shake the hands of women
Starting point is 01:36:04 and thank them for coming out to the shows. It would be consensual. Of course I'm saying that. Yeah, shake the hands, yeah. That's what I'm doing. Consensual handshakes. All right. So yeah, 2022, more cities coming, more shows coming.
Starting point is 01:36:14 We got all our things visually. We're going to be bringing soon. So, yeah, just thank you to everybody that came out these last two shows and supported. It was great. Had a lot of fun with y'all and looking forward to seeing more y'all soon. Cool. So, yeah, that's the ginger beard, man. That is I.
Starting point is 01:36:31 I'm all. And we'll see y'all soon. We'll talk to y'all soon. Be safe. Have fun. And love. Love is love. bro
Starting point is 01:36:43 I swear to God bro I remember walking out the house walking down the street gonna go around my boy's house wherever I'm going around my cousin's house brother just thinking
Starting point is 01:36:58 bro cause just like damn bro wish we had like like like bro damn bro wish I had somebody pull up on me and just throw me a dog throw me a like damn bro I wish no I'm saying like
Starting point is 01:37:09 yeah man I just bro like I don't know bro like I just remember remember all this shit, everything, like, sleeping on the floor, the, my partner's day situation, just everything. So it's like, I just be thinking to myself,
Starting point is 01:37:24 it's like, bro, do some shit you ain't ever did. I mean, do some shit for somebody that ain't, you ain't never, no more I never did shit with you. Now, I mean, my whole thing was just the guild, bro. Right, I mean, because you listen to me, right, nobody never gave me shit. I ain't know what this is, that, this. So me, I just been like, bro,
Starting point is 01:37:43 shit, me do that shit for somebody. You know what I mean? That's some dope shit. I won. I was going to give somebody $100,000. But I had to think about that shit. They were like, man, bro, you get that one person in $100,000.
Starting point is 01:37:56 It's cool. But, bro, there's only one shot. And there's one, like, that one person getting that $100,000. And like, brother, split it up, bro, and get away $25,000 of four different people. A win is a win. A win is a win.
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