New Rory & MAL - Episode 206 | Taylor Swift Brings Girl Math To The NFL

Episode Date: October 3, 2023

It’s only Tuesday and Mal is already asking for more flowers. We start with music: Doja, Glorilla & Latto. In the spirit of music controversy we pivot to the leaked Kanye documentary. Is Cardi B... a plant? Then we discuss the woman saving the economy and the NFL, Taylor Swift. This viral relationship turns into us talking about Demaris’s love life (cue argument) Would you willingly give your family money if you were a billionaire? We discuss the old clip of Jay-Z making its rounds online. Do you know the difference between what girl math and boy math? We break down the lack of logic. It’s time for voicemails. Tune in as the guys discuss all of this + more! Follow The Team:Rory - https://www.instagram.com/thisisrory/Mal - https://www.instagram.com/mal_bytheway/Eddin - https://www.instagram.com/thankyoueddin/Julian - https://www.instagram.com/julian__nicholas/Demaris - https://www.instagram.com/demarisagiscombe/ Merch: https://newrorynmal.com/Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/newrorynmalYouTube Subscribe: https://rb.gy/hk7up  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoicesSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:02 mall on there too or lunch Who are you talking to? The listeners and the viewers. I don't see nobody. You got to look through the camera. Through the vision. Okay. So, you know, subscribe to Patreon. You can meet Mall. I want my flowers. What do you want your flowers?
Starting point is 00:02:38 I want my fucking flowers. I want Charlemagne. I was called them Charlemagne. I was quoting Ray J. Charlemann and we live. I'm like, what the fuck? How do you guys not know an iconic Ray J moment? I know it. I know it. You called them Charlamine. That's all. You said they similar.
Starting point is 00:02:52 So that makes me Raymond J? Yes. Okay. That makes you racist. Oh, fair. If you call me Charlottman, all black people don't look alike.
Starting point is 00:02:59 worry. He called you big boy? No, see? See? I started early. I'm starting early. I'm going to let that one.
Starting point is 00:03:08 I'm going to act like I didn't see that one. I'm going to let that one fly. You prefer Peter Rosenberg? No. Damn. Yo, I want my fucking flowers. For what?
Starting point is 00:03:15 Because I came here and I asked you out last week when the album came out. And I was okay. It was hearing everybody's opinions on. Oh, the Dodger numbers. Oh, what? I was hearing everybody. I was waiting to hear. Wait, first of all, what's the numbers?
Starting point is 00:03:28 Oh, yeah, that too. We don't have an official, but we have some insider information that she might put up a 120. Just say you texted somebody. Okay, anyway. More flowers for that, too, because I said that was going to happen. Anyway. And that projection possibly came from the people that bought the streams. See, you want those.
Starting point is 00:03:46 You want those. You want those. Don't do that. I love Arsenal. I have said they're one of my favorite labels in existence right now. I'm a supporter of RCA record. Don't do that. Shout out of him.
Starting point is 00:03:57 Because I'm here to get my flowers because... Just telling you like Sony owns some of Spotify. That's all I'm saying. You're right. And that I'm not argue with you. I'm just suggesting something. 1,000% correct. But we talked about this Doja album.
Starting point is 00:04:10 We talked about it, right? Yes. And everybody in here maybe outside of Julian was completely wrong. What do you mean? Thank you, Ma. That Doja album is fucking phenomenal. Oh, it is very good. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:23 That's a phenomenal fucking, bro, listen, that Doja album? Tell me what makes you think that that album's phenomenal. Bro, she's rapping. It's no feature. She's not relying on no features. She has great hooks. It's great music on there. Like, that's a phenomenal rap album from a female rapper.
Starting point is 00:04:41 From a female rapper? Oh, any rapper. If I'm racist, you're misogynist. Any rapper. I'm just saying it's female rap. And especially in this climate of female rap because what she's rapping about, how she's rapping is not really pushed. She made a really great
Starting point is 00:04:56 fucking album. It's just good music, yeah. That's good music from top to bottom. Like, that is a phenomenal album. So not only is it good music, it's good rap. That's what you're telling you. It's good raps. It's songs on it. Bro, it's songs on there that if
Starting point is 00:05:10 some other female artists had would be probably some of the biggest songs of the year. Interesting. Without a doubt. But why? Because Doja is one of the biggest artists in the world. So where would the disconnect be? Because Doja put it up.
Starting point is 00:05:21 Because I could see if you say, Because I think a lot of people are still trying to push Doja into this quote-unquote pop category. She is, though. She is pop. She gave us a rap album. Okay. Two things can be true again. And I still stand by my take last week.
Starting point is 00:05:36 The second half grew on me a bit. It is more on the rap side. But it is still very much a pop album. Nah, bro. This ain't no pop album. It's still a pop album. It's a pop rap. But it's good rap.
Starting point is 00:05:47 It started to grow them. Pop. Well, pop is pop. Spell and bones grow on me a lot. Often is really cool Gawoff is good Gora Hills can't wait Records on the second half started to grow me
Starting point is 00:05:58 I still stand by the first half being a lot of just bad lazy pop music Fuck the girls is pop Yes that's a pop record Wow how how was that pop Those are pop core Everything about that record
Starting point is 00:06:11 No you bugging out bro That's not a pop record Oh he dropped an album Come on man He knows what Roy is pop He's mad pop I would like to be pop
Starting point is 00:06:19 There's nothing wrong with pop Why do we have some negative connotation about pop is the best music? All right, since we're... Pop is not a type of... It's just popular. That's all it is. Exactly. That doesn't be...
Starting point is 00:06:29 No, no. There's a structure. There's a structures of chords. Yeah, there's things that lie. What's a pop chord? You know A. On Fuck the girls, those piano chords are very much pop. Those are pop.
Starting point is 00:06:46 Those scents are pop. That's a pop scent. I'm not rolling with them. The warmth than anything. This is not a pop album, bro. This is not a pop album. I wouldn't say it's a pop or not. It's a great album.
Starting point is 00:06:56 I don't give a shit what they categorize that. This album is fucking incredible. You said it's great. He's saying phenomenal. This is a phenomenal. Bro, I'm willing to say, I'm willing to say she's going to win some grandmys for this album. Oh, of course. Oh, I think she will.
Starting point is 00:07:07 Yeah. And I'm not saying it wouldn't be deserved because I don't think it's a bad album. Staying on female artists over the weekend, I sent two songs into the group chat. One was Glorilla and the other was Lato and it was two of the worst songs I've ever heard of my life. Yeah. Well, damn, of your life. That glowrilla, I haven't heard a lot of one. That glowrilla one is ass. That glowrilla song is like if the AI shit caught an era.
Starting point is 00:07:31 It's like the beta version of AI where they're like, all right, let's try to fit a TikTok dance, old lyrics, a sample of a song that was successful. And then put it with someone with an accent. Like it really, it looked like a robot's head was about to explode by just feeding it algorithm data. And out came that glowrilla song. That song is so fucking bad. I hear it, yeah. It's the Uchiwali sample, and then it's some other nursery rhyme dance. It's just too much.
Starting point is 00:08:00 It's just too much. There's cha-cha. Like, it's chacha. It makes your mind it slow. See, but this is why we have to give Doja more flowers. But I don't even compare. In a climate where that's the type of rap that's being pushed and that's being, like, you know, viral and all that shit. She made a real, real great rap out.
Starting point is 00:08:18 Why can't you compare it? But yes and no on that, because I don't even. even put Doja, I have Doja way higher in what I think of her, regardless when it comes to her music. So I'm not comparing her to a Glorilla TikToks. I would never compare her to me. She's not even in that category.
Starting point is 00:08:31 I'm saying that that's that, the Glorilla music, the lot of shit, that's the sound that's being pushed. They're both great sounds though. This was such a mistake. Glorilla has been putting out some good music. She's a great personality. She does have something different than a lot of her peers. This was like the worst mistake.
Starting point is 00:08:49 Whose idea was this? Here, Ma, listen. Who let it? This is focus. I like how I feel. Come on. That's what it is. In this hell can't.
Starting point is 00:08:58 I let Jesus take the wheel. Yeah, no. That's, that's... I mean, you know. The kids are on TikTok, I have fun with it. So bad. I've never heard of a terrible song. Fafa, ha, ha.
Starting point is 00:09:12 But that's because you're not around the right killer. You're not around the right gangsters. You know what I'm saying? I go to the range. I never heard of. The Fafah. See, when you got that silencer on there, that's how it's sound when they're whizzing pat.
Starting point is 00:09:24 I'm more of a Rattata. You ever been shot at? I'm not, I was not the target. I've been around. Yeah, see, if you haven't, they weren't looking for me. Yeah, if you ever been shot at. Yeah, Roy was the cop. I was the undercover.
Starting point is 00:09:35 And if she started whizzing past you, they go fattata. It sounds like, oh, shit. That almost took my, you know what you're saying? So are you going to do the dance is what you're saying? No, I think they're, this is in the Bronx. I think, right? Is it?
Starting point is 00:09:47 Really? Glorilla shot a video in the Bronx. Harlem sports. I think that's... Who was the one with Cardi in the Bronx? The Harlem Sports. Yeah, it's shot in Harlem.
Starting point is 00:09:53 Cardi's from the Bronx. But she lives in Atlanta. Who's on this record? Fabio. You know it's crazy? So yeah, it's probably in Brooklyn. It's without this cha-cha-cha fucking lyrics like this beat with Fabio I think would have been. I like the Uchi Wally sample.
Starting point is 00:10:06 It's a real sample. It's redundant, but like it is what it is. That's not what I hate the most about this thing. Yeah, no. It's the chach-cha-cha for sure. Yeah, it's the hook. And Glorilla's accent on this. It's just bad.
Starting point is 00:10:16 Damn. Her accent? Listen, man, shout out to Glorilla. You know what I mean? Run your numbers up. Doja Cat put out a great fucking album, man. I can't believe you spent your birthday week. Bro.
Starting point is 00:10:26 Just focused on the Doja album. I'm not going to even tell you. To come here to collect flowers. This is arguing with me on the weekend in the group. I'm not going to tell y'all. I started texting niggas the album. I'm like, bro, have y'all guys? Have y'all heard this Doja Cat?
Starting point is 00:10:36 Because I was listening to it and I'm like, you're on the street team? No, it's not even about. See, it's not about jokes all the time, Julian. I'm being dead serious. About Scarlet? That's where you draw the line on jokes? See, because niggas be cracking. It's not about jokes right now.
Starting point is 00:10:49 See what I'm saying? Like, I was really sending out text messages because you ever like, you ever like listen to some music. Yeah. And you like, okay, that was the whole album. And I'm like, bro, I don't,
Starting point is 00:11:03 a couple songs maybe wasn't my favorite, but top to bottom, that's not a, that's like, this is good music. The way he's talking about this album and how he talked about Rory's album is so crazy. I mean, Rory sent me songs. I didn't have wet vagina.
Starting point is 00:11:16 He's so. sent me songs. See, if you had a wet vagina, it'd be different. Yeah. See, so, Rory sent me, he sent me songs. He sent me songs for a year and a half, two, years. That's true. I guess. I was listening to records for two, three years. That's true. The rollout is different. Yeah, it was like, dog. Okay. And he was like, you know, I changed this part. It's like, okay, cool, changed it. He added this. Like, he mixed. I'm like, okay, cool. And he added a popcorn. But this, but that goes to a thing.
Starting point is 00:11:40 Surrender didn't have them before. I hate, I hate being in the studio for the recording process for that reason. By the time the song is done and I get the fin of it, I didn't hurt it. It's like, bro, I can't listen to this shit no more. He could be a great song. No, I, listen, I agree with it. That wasn't even for you. Not, not. Not to my Roy's album. It's fine. It's still landed. It's still landed. Because I got to be clear. I got it on. I put the energy out there on your album like that. Not to my Roy's album. In general, if I hear the, the creation of a project and songs or somebody, don't talk about reasonable doubt this way, though. Yeah. Well, that's different. But it's just, it's just, it's just,
Starting point is 00:12:15 It's just like, you know, Demaris, you okay? That equipment is expensive. You can't spit water all over it, all over this. No, I'm just saying that. $1,000 a laptop. You know what I'm saying? It's just different. It's just switchboarded camera.
Starting point is 00:12:28 It's just level. It's just levels. That's all I'm saying. You just spit all over the lapses. Were you laughing that I was comparing my album to reasonable doubt or that mall was was there for both of the processes of those albums? Because you could go multiple ways with that one. Mom just goes, that was different.
Starting point is 00:12:48 Poor Murray. It was. I believe. I mean. I'm sorry. And I wasn't even, I wasn't in the studio for reasonable doubt. I wasn't around a lot of those sessions. Other albums, yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:00 But like the rest of his catalog. Some of the albums, yeah. So Scarlett's your number one album of the year. And you're saying like you don't skip wet vagina or fuck the girl? My vagina is not bad. So that's the thing. Even her pussy rap, the song named after pussy isn't even a pussy She wraps on.
Starting point is 00:13:16 Guys, I didn't need to wrap jeans. It didn't go that far over my head. I'm just putting it out there. That's why I like it. It's just not pussy. I hate pussy rap. That should is so wet. I know.
Starting point is 00:13:25 Went over my head. I'm not intelligent enough to get that she wasn't talking about a vagina. She made a red vagina. Is that what? She makes SAT rap. So the fans were, I'm my asses. They're like, Demaris think Doja's album sucks because it's not pussy rap. But that's not true.
Starting point is 00:13:38 And I don't think that it sucks. But when I bought it up in the group chat, I'm like, okay, y'all don't be advocating for Rhapsody like this. Niggas said that Doja Cat was a better rapper than Rhapsody. Who said that? Better artist. I don't know if she is a better artist.
Starting point is 00:13:51 It's a difference. It's a difference. Man, I said a better rapper in a group chat. Y'all switching. Y'all switching it. I think Rhapsody is a better rapper. I told you that Rhapsody is a better, is a better artist than Dojicat? No.
Starting point is 00:14:03 I said rapper. And y'all was like, Doja Cat is better than Rhapsody. And I was just like, as an artist. Not a rapper. I don't think Dojicat rap's better than Rhaps. Oh, okay. Thanks for Claire. I asked to get it.
Starting point is 00:14:15 I said, are y'all telling me? Unfair. Like, one has dedicated her entire career to rapping at the highest ability where Doja does other shit. Okay, so why y'all don't advocate for her? Rhapsody don't make pussy rap music. Why y'all don't be telling her he's listening to that new rap song? I do.
Starting point is 00:14:31 Often. You never heard Rory said that? I have them. Talk about you. You're the one calling Doja's album phenomenal. I mean, it's a phenomenal album. It's also recent. Like what?
Starting point is 00:14:40 This great music, top the bottom. Great production. Great hooks. great lyrics, flows. Like she checked all the boxes for a rapper. And I'm sitting back because I'm not supposed to like this album as much as I like this album. We know.
Starting point is 00:14:53 You understand? So that's why I'm really like confused? I'm like, why am I liking this album so much? But then I realize I'm like, yo, it's just refreshing to hear a female rapper, make this type of music,
Starting point is 00:15:03 make these type of songs, use these type productions, have these type of hooks in a climate where that's not really pushed. It's not really championed right now. That's not what labels are trying to push female rappers. That's not the type of music they're pushing them to make right now.
Starting point is 00:15:18 So you don't think she's a plant that was sent here by the Illuminati to keep our minds in the fog. No, that's Cardi B. No, I think Doja is a complete opposite of a plant. I think Doja came in trolling. I think she's still trolling. I agree.
Starting point is 00:15:30 I think she takes all the stereotypes and makes fun of them. I think that Doja is, you know, she's going through this phase right now where she's trying to make herself look as less appealing sexually as possible and push more of, all right, but focus on my music, though.
Starting point is 00:15:44 The best compliment I can personally give it is that I liked it the second week more than I liked it the first week. So usually those things have switched in the last two years of music. I like some shit for the first week and then I'll try to listen to the second week or I'll just end up completely forgetting
Starting point is 00:15:59 or not caring about it. I feel bad to say with Travis's album. I came in here, loved it. When the last time you played it? It's been a very long time. I played that fiend shit though. Fee! There's a few joints on there. How's it go?
Starting point is 00:16:12 How's it go? Fee! Is that the thing? That's the TikTok next? I don't know. I think it was something like that. That should be it. That should be it, right? That's why I never took off.
Starting point is 00:16:21 Feet. Feet. They needed you in the studio. I knew the little drug addicts was going to like that record, though. These little pill-popping demons that's running around. I knew they was going to love that shit. That's their shit right there. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:31 But, no, I mean, that Travis album, I haven't gone back to it. Me neither. It's not a lot of replay value. There's certain songs in there that I like, but that's what I'm saying, a lot of artists and trap. But Travis is an album artist. He makes, you know, top the bottom. He tries to make a complete album.
Starting point is 00:16:44 think that now a lot of these artists they make playlist albums. It's like, yo, what's... What's on... No, no, not a shot at you. They make songs that's like, okay, I don't like all of these, but I'm gonna take a couple of these
Starting point is 00:16:57 and make my own little playlist. That's what a lot of artists do now. He's making your own album cut of your album is fucking hilarious, though. Kind of like the way Travis did with Black Skinhead with Kanye. Pretty much the same thing. I don't know the correlation,
Starting point is 00:17:11 but I'm gonna laugh at it. What was it that modern? Society record, that's the one that he, there was a Kanye record that Travis, I mean, most of that album was a Kanye record. Well, did you guys see the leaked Kanye footage from his documentary from, I think, 2018? I saw some of that. I saw him walking around on the phone, screaming about a bunch. You know what's funny? I want to hear how that conversation started. I want to hear the question that was asked to him to where he went down that hole. Well, what's really interesting is kind of the foresight in this conversation that he's having with someone over the phone.
Starting point is 00:17:44 I think this is from before 2003 and he's discussing that he has the real black skinhead and it sounds like he was talking about Travis's album and how he was just copying his shit but then I watched the whole thing and I don't think this was from any year close to 2023. No they said it was 2018. This is from 2018.
Starting point is 00:18:05 Well he predicted that shit because Travis took black skinhead and redid it. Basically. That was fucking weird to me. I didn't see this documentary. I sent a full in the group chat. What happened, Rory? Well, the clips that went viral, because just this morning, the actual two-hour documentary leaked.
Starting point is 00:18:20 But over the weekend, there was a clip. It looks like he's at a photo shoot. And he's on the phone with someone discussing that he shouldn't be giving away albums like Daytona or records like going to love you to Tiana. Like, he could have had four different dark fantasies and he doesn't need anybody. And he's done with good music. He only makes great because good is the enemy of great. Not wrapped off beat. He said, Scooter, I don't know who told you you're getting 10% of my shit.
Starting point is 00:18:49 I don't know where you made that up. But, you know, he went on a typical Kanye rant, and I think kind of alienated the few people that he had left in his corner. And I know the Kanye defenders, and like, well, that's not actually what he means. It's not. I know. I know, right? You can't come up with the idea for good music and say,
Starting point is 00:19:11 I want to do seven track albums with all the artists on my label. I want to execute to produce them. Do all the rollouts and then get mad that you did it at them. Well, we know. It's bipolar. Yeah, Kanye, he's not, you know, he has, you know, mental health issues that he's, he's battling and he's dealing with. But I think that Kanye is, when you have somebody as creative as Kanye, they kind of, they tend to live in their own head in their own world a lot. So by the time they say something to us, it's like, we may.
Starting point is 00:19:41 may not understand it, but we trust his work and we trust his track record. But it's like you're trying to catch up to somebody that's thinking so fast and thinking so far ahead. It's like, okay, I'm trying to make sense of what you're saying. And we're trying to make it, you know, make sense right now. But sometimes it's just hard to connect with people that just don't understand a creative's mind. And somebody that's obviously dealing with, you know, some mental health issues. And I see why they took these two clips and those are the ones that they put out before the full doc leaks. because the actual documentary is pretty good.
Starting point is 00:20:12 And it's the side of Kanye that we all do like the creative one, the calmer one, the thinker one, the most of the document. I love when he told you, I'm not, you know, pose like Elvis. I loved that. Oh, that was funny. I didn't tell Kanye to pose like Elvis. That was all within the same 10 minutes of everything that was going by. But did you understand that, though?
Starting point is 00:20:31 Because I saw some people that was kind of like, oh, why is he mad at the creative director for telling him just trying to give him like, but I could understand it. it's like, why would you even come in here to this photo shoot with somebody like a Kanye West and tell them to do anything like Elvis? Yeah, that is weird. That just doesn't make any sense. It's like, bro, this is Kanye you talking to. Do whatever you want.
Starting point is 00:20:52 Yeah, like, I'm just, let me just shoot you and just whatever. We're going to get one of them. Like, one of them is going to stick. How did Elvis pose, by the way? I wouldn't even know what, if someone said that to me. But that's the point. It's like, what does that even mean? It's like, how Elvis posed.
Starting point is 00:21:04 Like, what does that? Just like move your head. No, with the mic. What are you doing with that hand? That's something. That's something else. That's something else. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:11 Yeah. Yeah. That's something else you're doing. That's crazy. That's really misogynistic actually, but that's how else. I'm looking at. We're playing charades. I'm just guessing what you're doing right now.
Starting point is 00:21:19 You know what I mean? I mean, I did agree with not, not, Nas. Kanye that Nas was rapping offbeat on. That was something that a lot of people kind of said on the record. I just with the Tiana and push a t-shirt is, it's just weird if you ask someone to do something and then they do it to an extremely high caliber and it's incredible. And then you get, you get that for myself. And then you get mad at them?
Starting point is 00:21:38 Yeah, it's like, I should have kept that. I gave y'all three beautiful dark twisted fantasies. And it's like, yeah, you were a executive producer. But, like, that's some of my favorite push rapping ever. Yeah. I would have preferred it that way. I don't think Kanye was in the best rapping shape as we saw it with Yeh at that time. I'm glad you gave all those to push your tea.
Starting point is 00:21:57 And even with Tiana as well, I don't think he was in the mode. The Tiana album was dope. Yeah, that's not, the, uh, the Pusher Project is one of, again, one of my favorites at Daytona. He said Corey Gamble was a CIA agent. Yeah. Now to the next viral clip. Well, he said Cory Gamble was part of the CIA in a couple clips. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:16 And I don't know Mr. Gamble. That's hilarious to put that on someone's jacket. I don't know Mr. Gamble, but I kind of see what he's saying. That's the thing with Kanye. He'll go on a rant and like a lot of the shit he says is true. But then he'll just throw out that wild non-secondary. And you're like, damn, what? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:32 CIA agent, what the fuck? And it's like, no, Nas was rapping off beat. We can hear he was offbeat. But how is he a scene? But also, like, Hitler is not that good. I'm sorry. So it just gets tough to agree. But that's the thing, you know, because we don't experience life through Kanye's point of view.
Starting point is 00:22:46 Thank God. He has more information that has seen more to kind of validate what he's saying about certain things or certain people. It's like, okay, you want to say this dude is a CIA agent. You know him better than we do, sir. So who am I to say, yo, Kanye's bugging out? You know what I'm saying? I can't say that because I don't know. I don't know this dude.
Starting point is 00:23:04 I don't know who you told him. You have more of a history with him. You have more of a relationship with him. You've seen things that we haven't seen. But when you're saying things like this in front of a camera, these are some serious things you're saying about people. It's like, okay, so you have to kind of believe Kanye, right, to some extent? Well, I think people just hear CIA agent and think super conspiracy has to be off the meds.
Starting point is 00:23:26 Like, that's some movie shit. But, you know, we've both been behind the scenes in certain rooms with certain people that have experiences in that world. It's a little bit more common than people think. Than people think and not as alarming. Right. It doesn't necessarily mean anything was going to change, but the agents are among us. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:48 Oh no. It's not some Tom Cruise fucking Mission Impossible shit all the time. Sometimes it's just somebody working within that party and is also in the entertainment business. Like it's way more common than we think. That's why I didn't think it was that crazy or that was he was off the meds thing. The other thing that went viral paired with that was saying
Starting point is 00:24:10 Cardi B was sent by the Illuminati and she's an industry plant. Nice. And see, that's where I think you just like get off track too much, me even being a conspiracy person. I think there could be an agenda that Cardi B is great at and they promote her more because of it. I don't necessarily think Cardi B, you know, was at the triangle parties. Does that?
Starting point is 00:24:34 They took Cardi B. from the Bronx and was like, it's your time. I think they have... Is she a piece in a play that they're running? Very small one? Sure. I could see someone thinking that. I don't think Cardi B has had any conversations with the Illuminati and they were like,
Starting point is 00:24:48 Bodak, that's you. Yeah, I don't... That type of shit, no. But him saying she's a plant, I can understand that. People have said that. People have alluded to that for years. That's not, you know... So do you agree or disagree?
Starting point is 00:25:02 Do I agree that she's a plant? Yeah. You're saying that for favor. No, but I need to... I've changed my definition of plant so many times. That's why I'm kind of... I've been hypocritical. I haven't been consistent because my mind changes often.
Starting point is 00:25:13 What isn't a plant at this point? What isn't a plant? And being a plant is not necessarily a knock on the plant. Or even a bad thing. Because there's plants that can make good music. With your current definition of what you guys feel a plant is, is Cardi be a plant? Well, give the definition of what you think a plant is first.
Starting point is 00:25:33 I think a plant is somebody that is... is picked as the one because when you look at the market, it's all about business. So if you have an artist or somebody that's dominating the market space here, it's only in, you know, the business's interest to kind of put somebody else to challenge that because you need a rivalry in anything. Sports, entertainment, fashion, you need somebody to go against whatever's the best right now. We need somebody to rival that because it's more money. It's more entertainment.
Starting point is 00:26:01 It's more, you know what I mean? It's only fucked up in our culture because that turns into some negative. shit sometimes, beefs, people getting locked up, people getting hurt, people getting killed. Like it's a trickle-down thing because you're talking about so much money at stake. People are going to try to protect that. So I'm not mad at the industry saying, I like this person. He got some talent. They got some appeal.
Starting point is 00:26:22 They have a following. Let's put everything behind them. Let's push this artist. Not necessarily mad at it. But now when you start saying this artist is the best, this artist is, you know, best rap album, Grammy. They're not going to understand how somebody that is not that that's really like writing and creating and doing all these things. They're like, wait, hold up. How y'all just putting somebody ahead of me that's not, didn't even put in the work, that y'all just decided to push?
Starting point is 00:26:50 That's where it becomes a negative thing because it's like, yo, I'm not mad at somebody getting a shot to get put on and become a star. I'm not mad at that. But when you start saying now, you're taking away from the people that actually are putting in a lot of work that's not just pushing buttons. The companies are not just pushing buttons behind them to let them propel forward. Then I can understand it being a problem because it's like, all right, that's not now. It's not fair. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:16 It's like if somebody's on steroids and I'm not, I'm working out that we go to the fucking track meet, this person smokes my clock and I'm just like, wait, hold up. Like, you're not fasting to me. He's on fucking steroids. Like, of course you're going to be stronger and quicker. And, you know what I'm sorry? I understand where it's like it's not. So now what are you saying?
Starting point is 00:27:32 Like now if y'all are going to put everything behind me as well as put everything behind this artist, then okay, let's level it. But don't not, you know what I'm saying? Like keep me out of certain looks and take certain things away from me and give it to this person when this person is not a quote unquote real artist. This person doesn't really create. So your disdain isn't necessarily directed at Cardi. It's directed at, I guess in this case, the label, Atlantic.
Starting point is 00:27:53 It would be the label. Who is putting her in a position of the influence they have on committees, etc. The only problem I had, and this was my. biggest thing. The only problem I had with it was when they gave it best rap album. I thought that was very disrespectful and that was very fucked up to a lot of other emcees and artists and rappers throughout the years
Starting point is 00:28:09 who didn't get a... Nause just won his first rap Grammy a year ago. A year ago. But that can't be... You can't be mad. But is that fault? Is that... That's happened... I'm not... You're taking it. I'm not... I'm never mad at Cardi. I want Cardi to win every fucking award. She's from where I'm from. I'm not mad at that. I'm just saying I can understand
Starting point is 00:28:25 how it was fucked up to the other artist who put it on this working old these years to achieve something that this is the pinnacle, a Grammy. It's like, okay, I'm trying to get there. I need that. And I'm really going through these experiences and really creating this art and these things throughout the years and I don't get one. Then all of a sudden, you have to push this artist and they have one their first time
Starting point is 00:28:45 out? It's like, what the fuck? And I think Cardi was like a perfect storm of organic and opportunity and timing. Like, she definitely put in the work by herself in the beginning. I said on this podcast, I give her credit for Bodak Yellow really pushing that herself. But once she had that opportunity and the label saw, one, she could be marketable. They could give her all the resources. They could give her all the quote unquote plant steroids.
Starting point is 00:29:14 And I also believe there was already an agenda to try to have someone rival Nikki. It was just the perfect storm of that. So I don't think she came into the game as a plant. I just think she got a little success and she was the best option when they were in need of a plant. They weren't need for somebody to rival what Nikki was doing because Nikki was dominating the female rap space. And that's where I think like the plant conversation has changed so much like
Starting point is 00:29:37 before a plant was shit. For example, Britney Spears. Like let's find a marketable white girl that we could give all the pop records to, give all the TRL looks to, builder, she had success as a kid. That was the original plant. They found the girl and developed her. Now people are developing themselves just a little bit to get the culture and the
Starting point is 00:29:58 algorithm and then the labels don't have to spend as much money. They can skip a whole step of artist development, grab you because you have a following, and now we're going to put all the money and all our resources behind you. Like we're replanting you. That's where I think things have changed. So there's plenty of artists that aren't plants. They just now started out on their own and have all the resources that plants had. You could say her as a plant.
Starting point is 00:30:23 Like plant doesn't always have to be negative. Gabby? Gabby Wilson, 14 years old. they gave her all the look she was a no she's a she's a musician bro that's why i'm saying plant doesn't have to have a negative connotation to it she was a i think a fucking child prodigy but i think they gave her all the resources it did not work but i think that's what plant comes into play at i think comes into play because a lot of people feel like a lot of these artists are not musically inclined they have no musical talent it's just that they have a name that's in the algorithms right now
Starting point is 00:30:52 that people are looking and searching so then they put these videos behind these songs behind them but they don't have no musical talent gabby her has musical talent. She plays instruments, she writes, she produces, like, she has musical talent. But then you could also say there's plenty of people with musical talent that don't get any looks
Starting point is 00:31:10 or end up being successful. And I'm saying, when Gabby doesn't work at 14 to 18, they don't drop her, they just completely rebrand her, and then all of a sudden... Put some glasses on her. All of a sudden, in 2000,
Starting point is 00:31:25 what was it, like 12, 13, all of us on all of our timelines have this her project. It's incredible. One of our favorites. But that situation. But that didn't organically, let's not say her was an organic rise the way maybe the weekend was or Frank Ocean was. But that's my point.
Starting point is 00:31:44 That was, she was planted. She's incredibly talented and deserved the plant. But that's a plant too. But I think what happened with Gabby was they saw that, okay, this artist is going to take off once she's able to, once her. content is able to mature. She was young.
Starting point is 00:32:02 She was like, they was like, yo, once she becomes a woman, once she's able to have, you know, start saying certain things and start, you know, writing certain lyrics and stuff like that, that's when they knew, okay, an audience is going to gravitate towards her because she can make this type of content. Oh, it was just brilliant. When you're a child, it's like, when you're a child and you're so like musically inclined and dope, it's like, okay, that's a kid, look at that kid, she knows how to play the piano. She knows how to play the guitar.
Starting point is 00:32:25 She knows the lady to play the drums. Oh, it's dope. But what is the content? And what audience are you catering to? Like kids in high school, 14 years old, that's like, you know what I mean? It's like, no, they knew that once she became a young woman that, okay, people are going to find you, they're going to gravitate towards you because your content, your lyric, what you're talking about has changed and has matured. This is why people are going to love you.
Starting point is 00:32:45 And I'm not disagreeing. Two things can be true. She also then came back out as a shadow, a new name, and she was everywhere. Got all the grim. I'm saying they were well deserved. Got all the grim. Rammy looks was selling really low but getting more opportunities than people that were selling more than her.
Starting point is 00:33:04 Yeah. So there's a huge case that she's a plant too. So plant isn't always negative. I don't think she's a plant that the Illuminati is behind to keep us in a certain mindset. I don't think so either. I kind of feel what Kanye is saying, but, you know, again, I don't think Cardi is really at those meetings. You know who's not a plant? The goat.
Starting point is 00:33:23 The pop queen herself. Taylor Swift. You would call her the goat. I don't know Taylor's like backstory before Kanye took that award from her. Oh, she is she a plant? I don't know. She's, she literally launched that big machine label. She made them a thing.
Starting point is 00:33:38 Like she's been, it's her. There's no, it's her. Like she's big plant is what you're saying? I'm saying, she is a fucking sequoia tree. Yeah. She's a red oak. She's a national forest. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:48 She's her own thing. She sold MetLife on Sunday. Listen, I get it, man. But the NFL, y'all got a fucking state. They panned it. They panned it tail him one time by accident. I saw that. The cut after the touch.
Starting point is 00:33:58 It was like y'all didn't even mean to put the camera on her right there. It's just like, yo, I get it. It's Taylor Swift. She's at the game. She's dating Travis Kelsey. His jersey sales up 400% some crazy shit. He gained a million follows on Instagram in a week. I get it.
Starting point is 00:34:13 But it's like... Who cares? Who gives a fuck? A lot of people. A lot of people. Yeah, but why... Okay. Why do people give a fuck?
Starting point is 00:34:20 So I had a moment this morning where I was... Because I watched the game and I was like, I don't... care. I'm not falling for the whatever fodder that they're creating between the two of them. But I was like, on some level now I'm more curious about Taylor. I listen to Midnights, her album this morning. It's really
Starting point is 00:34:37 fucking good. It's a great album. There's a few records on that were more standouts to me than other. She's a great artist. That's the thing. Like her folk shit, I wasn't into that. I didn't listen to those two albums. But because of those, like, residually, I wasn't interested in her new shit. But because she's been in my face so much, I was like, I, like,
Starting point is 00:34:55 I was reading reviews. They're her heralding this thing as like one of the best albums ever. Her best album and her 10 that she's put out. I'm like, okay, this has to be great. And I played it this morning and it's really fucking good. So I did want to come in and say that Midnight is a great album. Pop music, I said. It's the very good album.
Starting point is 00:35:12 Because everyone can like it no matter who you are. But it's like dark. It's not like catered towards kids. That's cool. Listen, as far as I'm great. She's a great artist. Dope. I just don't give a fuck who's fucking who. who's dating who
Starting point is 00:35:25 I just don't care I didn't know who big he was fucking didn't give a fuck never thought about That's not Just faith Little Kim It was a whole soap opera
Starting point is 00:35:34 You think I cared that Bia was fucking faith No but you said you didn't know You knew No but when they first started We didn't nobody knew Of course You didn't know until they told you some shit
Starting point is 00:35:42 Like I don't care that Travis and Taylor are dating Like Who's gonna win the fucking game Like that's what I'm here for I don't care about Who these dudes on the field of date And I just I think
Starting point is 00:35:51 We got to a point Where we just start paying attention to shit that's like who gives a fuck. But I mean it's the NFL like they're not the integrity guys for the game of football anymore. Everything is for sale. So if I'm the NFL
Starting point is 00:36:05 I'm showing Taylor more. I don't think they show her enough. Every fucking quarter. The last game is like the highest streamed game. Everything is for sale in the NFL right now. Like Taylor Swift is not where you should draw the line if you're the NFL. You have sold everything. No, they're going to do.
Starting point is 00:36:20 So I'm selling Taylor. Listen, the NFL is. It's going to milk every moment. Anything that they can get that's a good look, they're going to milk it. It's a business. The National Football League is a business. It's a corporation. I get it.
Starting point is 00:36:33 But it's like, all right, we get it. They're dating. She's at the game. She's next to his mom. Okay. It's not for you, bro. Who is it for? If I can triple my audience.
Starting point is 00:36:44 The people that don't watch football? Women between, let's say, 18 to 29. Yo, well, they are getting killed with cable TV. right now. If I can triple my audience and get a bunch of people that don't have a bunch of streaming apps, still just have cable just to watch Taylor Swift so I can sell more car commercials. I'm not mad at the NFL.
Starting point is 00:37:03 I think there should be two cams. It should be the game on one side and Taylor sitting in the box just there. I'm not mad at the NFL. They should have a Taylor cam. I'm not mad at the NFL. It's like the VMAs. But it's like, it is like the VMAs. It's like, come on, family. Mom, look at these numbers. Read these stats. The biggest stat on here, just to me, 63% jump in female viewers between 18 to
Starting point is 00:37:21 49. They're hitting a demo that they've never touched before just for the half a second they panned to her on camera. Julian, you talking to somebody that don't give a fuck about nothing. But the problem, regardless of you give a fuck or not, these are very real number. A lot of people give a fuck. Again, I understand what the NFL's doing.
Starting point is 00:37:37 I'm not, listen, it's all about making money. It's all about bringing in that revenue. I'm not mad at that. But it's just like, all right, can we just get back to the game? I give the NFL credit. What company in the world can pander to rednecks that love the troops
Starting point is 00:37:54 and 16-year-old girls that love Taylor Swift. That's hard. I can't think of another brand on earth that can do that right now. Bud Light tried. Didn't work out. Didn't work out. It's working great for them, for the NFL.
Starting point is 00:38:06 I think NASCAR could do it. What? They tried with Danica Patrick. That didn't work. You think Danica Patrick didn't bring money to the... No, I'm saying they were... It was a good attempt to build a female, not attempt. I mean, I'm not taking away from her talent.
Starting point is 00:38:19 One of the drivers... One of the drivers just got to date somebody hot. They probably are. This is my thing. Yeah, but they're not Taylor Swift. But even if it's not Taylor Swift, it could be Demi Levitt. I don't know. Just somebody else.
Starting point is 00:38:33 It could be whoever. My thing is like, who? They're dating great. What about the sport? What about the game? Let's get back to that. Don't stop paying the shorty in the skybox. Wait until NASCAR has Real Housewives Indy 500 because it's coming.
Starting point is 00:38:48 They're all going to follow this boyfriend. Oh, yeah, yeah. They're going to encourage, but that's part of it. They encourage players like, hey, you know, I know the PR person for so-and-so. She's in town next week. You should think y'all should go on a date. Go to lunch, go to dinner. Like, they do that all the time. Oddly enough, in the most unfaithful times in world's history,
Starting point is 00:39:07 relationships are what keeps every genre movement. It keeps Hollywood going. We've clearly seen what has done to hip-hop in the last 10 years. It went from never have a girlfriend ever to you have to have a girlfriend to be. sustainable in hip hop now and they're doing the same shit with sports every single thing in the world as far as entertainment goes is based off relationships to some degree listen man i saw a picture uh kela posted a picture the other day lord would that pink dress on it was good photo it's a great photo Travis lost you lost i'm glad all right you came in for your flowers for doja which i'm happy for
Starting point is 00:39:43 i'm glad you've admitted you're you're wrong on the next episode no no i didn't no no i didn't because i said i said by far Kayla is a step is fucking, she's incredible. But we ain't going to act like Taylor don't check some other boxes. Look at the numbers. Pull the numbers up again, Julia. Clearly, this girl kid. Look up, nah, no, go back.
Starting point is 00:40:02 Oh, no, they did. We did. We in the building. Oh, there is. We in the building. Are you kidding me? We in the building. Listen, no, look at those numbers.
Starting point is 00:40:09 Emotional support. Oh, man, we're in the building. You get me? We thought DeMara's going to jack that cap. But, I mean. These were her numbers increasing? Oh, my God. Yo, listen.
Starting point is 00:40:17 From Kansas City. We love you. Look at this. I mean, She posted that shit and did she posted. I didn't even know. You know how I know. Like I'm just so like paying attention to dumb shit right now.
Starting point is 00:40:27 Because Caleb posted a picture and she put like BFFR. How did I know what that meant? And I never saw that before. You fucking for real, right? I never saw that before. You saw BFFR. You didn't have the right context. Demers says it like every.
Starting point is 00:40:39 I just saw that picture and I knew what the fuck BFFR meant. That was the easy acronym immediately. Oh, I know what this is. It's like multiple choice. Like it's like, oh, BFFR. fucking for real. Like, nigga, you kidding me? I look way better than that bitch. Yo, I'm not calling Taylor, bitch. I know that's what Kayla was saying. Come on. I think Kayla didn't post that picture like, I look way better than that bitch.
Starting point is 00:41:05 Get the fuck of him. I think that photo was not for Travis or Taylor, but more so all the attention that has been brought to her. Y'all don't, y'all don't know women. Y'all don't know women. Y'all don't know women. Y'all don't know women. That was for Travis Kelsey. Nah, that was for herself. Come on, man. That was for the Swifties. That was for Travis.
Starting point is 00:41:23 What's his middle name? Jemaine? Travis. I don't know. What's his middle name? TGK. B, B, F. Whatever Travis Kelsey's middle name is, that's who that photo was for.
Starting point is 00:41:34 So since we're talking about Kayla, she unfollowed Mahomes' wife. Which is a big deal because she was one of her bridesmaids at the wedding. His middle name is Michael. So. Really? Yeah. They're not cool. Oh, it's getting serious.
Starting point is 00:41:48 That's getting real serious. Casey, huh? I mean, you guys know I'm always seen Kayla, but also, like, what did you want Mahomes' wife to do? But would not be not... Not be best friends with Taylor Swift? It's been a week. They can't be best friends.
Starting point is 00:42:01 She's not best friends with Taylor Swift. They were in the same fucking skybox. Like, what... She's fucking Patch Mahon's wife. She kind of has to be right there. Yeah. It's politics. Like, I don't know if that's why she unfollowed her.
Starting point is 00:42:15 It could be some other shit going on. Yeah, for sure. Yeah, for sure. You know what Travis is. A Travis going to know he lost? They got to go on like a three-game losing street. That's not going to happen. That's not going to happen.
Starting point is 00:42:24 I mean, they did almost lose to the Jets. We didn't want to talk about the game for a minute. Let's not act like the Chiefs look like they're in the best state. Listen, the league is not going to let Kansas City lose while Taylor Swift is in the building. They're going to do their best to not let them. They're 2 and O with her in the house. This is what I'm trying to tell you. Which is sick.
Starting point is 00:42:39 They're going to do their best. If the game is close down the stretch, a penalty is coming. Just going to the flag is coming. They've also been 2 and O because they have Patrick Burhones and Travis Kelsey. as well. Like they've been to an O before. Taylor's playing a lot. They have been to an O in the past. Oh yeah, yeah, for sure.
Starting point is 00:42:56 I'm just saying, I just think now obviously it's more people watching. It's, you know, it's money, man. That's just the bottom line. It's money, money, money rules, everything. And Taylor has proven to be a boost in NFL numbers as far as streams and people watching and jersey sales and, you know, all this other shit. So listen, man. You guys think that Taylor's going to be at Minnesota? that's the next game.
Starting point is 00:43:19 For sure. Y'all think Travis hitting that? Yes. I don't think you hit that. They didn't leave the game together this time. That was the big controversial. You really are like tuned the fucking. I don't typically care.
Starting point is 00:43:29 I can't avoid it. I have to make a decision. I don't think they're fucking. They're not. I think this is just a great thing for both of them. I just can't wait to see whenever this thing is or the PR stunt ends and how I just want to see what the response is. Taylor's too happy when they pant a OD. Like you're not that happy when you're having sex yet.
Starting point is 00:43:47 She has to wait once a year. What? Yeah, like you, because when they pan to her and Taylor, like, she got an attitude, that's when you know they're fucking. Yeah. But right now she's still happy. She's hugging everybody. She's hugging people in the skybox.
Starting point is 00:43:58 You don't even know. It's like, oh, y'all, y'all not fucking yet. Yeah. Like, watch if they fuck and then Kelsey scores a touchdown and starts dancing, she'll be like, thinks he's cute. Like, what are he doing? Yeah. That's when you know they're actually fucking.
Starting point is 00:44:08 Yeah. He thinks it's fun now. Yeah, now it's just fun. It's just like, oh, God, this is great. Travis. He's, you know, playing football. They might have fucked once. Nah, he ain't hit that yet.
Starting point is 00:44:15 You know how, you know that weird space in between when y'all only fucked like one or two times. It hasn't gotten good yet. Y'all, y'all know that. You're cordial. Yeah. Yeah. I get it. You said the space with what?
Starting point is 00:44:28 There's like that one to two like sex space where it's like you guys are dating but you only have sex like one or two times. We didn't get filthy yet. Yeah, like you don't really. It's not the same. We had sex. We both don't even have enough time. We had sex, but we didn't fuck.
Starting point is 00:44:39 It's a difference. Yeah. Like, yeah. When you, the first time you fuck your girl. girl? She's sharing pretty hard. She's sharing pretty hard. Taylor, once a year with the award shows,
Starting point is 00:44:50 does the same act that she does in the Skybox. She's just a happy person. Happy, surprise, waits for her camera cue, which lens? Yeah, she's very aware. She knows what she's doing.
Starting point is 00:45:00 Well, that Midnight's album's great. That's all I'm saying. They promoted her tour. Listen, man, I say all that to say this, man, Doja Cat has a great fucking album, and I think that everybody should just salute her. Oh, the stream projections were way off,
Starting point is 00:45:12 by the way, from our previous insider. A more realistic projection is about mid-60s. Oh. Which is still higher than what she was projected to do for first week, only 60K? Between 67 and 69. That's what... Nice.
Starting point is 00:45:26 The Doge is about to do? Yeah. Speaking of industry plant, for that Ice Spice and Taylor Swift record not to work, I feel like Taylor Swift owes Ice Spice like some seats. Like, why wasn't Ice Spice at the Jets game? Why you said it didn't work? Because it didn't. It didn't work. But why, though?
Starting point is 00:45:41 It sucks. and it didn't work out. It didn't work as far as what, just the streams, the number? Impact. I mean, of course it's going to do a bunch of streams. It's Taylor Swift and Ice Spice, but not for what they average.
Starting point is 00:45:53 I got to stop doing that. I'm going to stop saying what didn't work. Karma went number one, by the way. Wait, but Carmen, the OG one? I know stats only matter so much. I'm just saying that. The OG one or the one with Ice Space? Because I think that was a remix.
Starting point is 00:46:07 Oh. Because I feel like Taylor owes Ice Spice, because Ice Spice hasn't had a dough. yet. Her only dud is when Taylor said, hey, come to the studio. So, like, you, and you're in my city. I hope Taylor checked in with Ice Spice. You can't just call, you just can't go see the New York Jets and not check in with Young Spice. Her cup is red, and her lips are red. Is that, like, in solidarity for the Ginges? I think you're looking into it a little too far.
Starting point is 00:46:31 Yeah, you're going to. Have you seen her rollouts? They're mad calculated. Yeah, the chiefs wear red. Oh, but, Maul, I forgot. Travis and Taylor were not the couple of the weekend. I was riding around trying to find parking by the studio this morning. And I happened to see Demaris on a coffee date at 10 o'clock in the morning. That's funny because I didn't even know DeMaris drinks coffee, were we? It was a chai latte.
Starting point is 00:46:58 Oh, excuse me. Old milk? Almond. Okay. I'm mad at almond. I won't say the neighborhood that we were in, but it is one where you walk around and canoodle with someone that you're very interested. It's one of those neighborhoods.
Starting point is 00:47:12 She wasn't just like in midtown, you know, just trying to get to work. Yeah. She was she was strolling around this neighborhood. You stole my sauce. You look at the architecture. You like, there's shit going on. There's restaurants from the 1800s. You can act like, you're really intrigued. It's a couple's neighborhood.
Starting point is 00:47:29 Is she in Rome? She in Rome. One could say little Rome. Oh, nice. Nice. Who's the one that could say that? Roy said he saw you guys split in the canoli. Damaris, I'm sick of your shit, yo.
Starting point is 00:47:44 Let me just get right to it. I'm going to tell you quickly how much in bliss they were. I stopped at the red lights and they were right at the crosswalk, like right next to my passenger window. I'm beeping the horn and waving and flailing my arms like this. Oh, no. Love is, love is blonde. They were the only two people on the earth. Yeah, love is blind.
Starting point is 00:48:01 For sure. Love is blonde. In the middle of the busiest neighborhood in New York City. Debutable. Time Square. Yeah. They're trying to deflect. Then I go and get a salad because I'm healthy and into Monday.
Starting point is 00:48:12 By Friday, I'll be back on cheeseburgers. So I get my salad and I come into the studio I'm usually the first one here Looked like they did a lot After party Little after date party in the studio You can't to the studio?
Starting point is 00:48:26 Demaris, if you fuck I'm gonna kick your ass Oh my that's my laptop I'm gonna let you know right now If you had sex in this studio I'm gonna kick your ass She fucked in your chair mall Because I know why you've been wanting that key back
Starting point is 00:48:39 So you lost your key to the studio And you've been asking for the shit for three weeks I know what type of kinky shit you and shit to, right? I don't want to alarm you too much, but they had all their clothes on. It seemed like it was a very appropriate meeting that was happening here. Okay. There was a moment, though, that the gentleman did take a photo in your chair. That's sick, by the way, in any context.
Starting point is 00:49:03 Damaris. He used a mic too. DeMaris. What's that? Why his chair? He put his hat upside out of him. Listen, you're my black, you're my little sister. You're my black sister.
Starting point is 00:49:12 You give him merch. Black Queen. Why would you have... Oh my God, you gave him merch. Okay, you know what? I'm not mad if. I'm not mad if. I'm not mad if he's your boyfriend.
Starting point is 00:49:24 You know, damn well, that's not her boyfriend. Mall is a funny motherfucker, ain't he? Is he your boyfriend? Yes or no? I am not in a relationship. All right, then I'm mad that nigga was sitting in my chair then. But I just... Your boyfriend can sit here.
Starting point is 00:49:36 I'm not mad. If he's your boyfriend... Oh, please, Cap. Cap, cap, cap, cap, cap. If you're like, that's my boyfriend, that's up, fam? You know what I'm saying? saying, I'll give them dapping all that.
Starting point is 00:49:44 But if it's just some nigger that you're going to get coffee with. That's not just some nigga I'm going to get coffee with. There may not be a label on it, but let's go down the checklist. Latte's at 9 a.m. Strolling around Little Rome. Sick. Monday morning. Because if you're strolling around at 9, that means y'all woke up in the same bed.
Starting point is 00:50:00 100%. So, okay. Yeah, there was no rendezvous on Broome Street. You're not meeting somebody at 8 9 to have coffee if you got in the same bed. So then after get their breakfast to go, she takes them to work on Monday morning. Shows him around her office. And it's not even bring your spouse to work day.
Starting point is 00:50:16 No. A Monday morning? Yeah, it's not even that. Yeah, it's not even that. No, I'll be ready for that one. So why was he here? Listen. It's not her boyfriend.
Starting point is 00:50:23 I felt like I was interrupting and this is our space. Yeah. I was like, yo, my bad, I could leave. No, no, so all of y'all could bring joints in the studio right, but I can't. When have we ever done that? But I can't. No, because we're talking. Let's talk.
Starting point is 00:50:34 Who brought joints in the studio? What are you talking about? Yours took a shit. She did not. You fought yours. Why y'all keep doing? She didn't take a shit. She took a piss.
Starting point is 00:50:44 The baby happened before the studio. Anyway. That is true. The baby, yeah, the month before. And she came here because she needed to use the bathroom. It was in the area. I needed to use the bathroom quick. He did, you know.
Starting point is 00:50:56 I bought him to meet you. You did not bring that nigga to meet me. My phone never, you never hit my phone saying, yo, I got somebody that want to meet you? Like, when did you ever hit me say, you got somebody that want to meet you? Once you text me that, it's like, tell that nigga, whoever did is, stay right there. This is what DeMarris did. That's how, you know how she let you know, she goes, E. ETA?
Starting point is 00:51:13 What the fuck? Oh, that's why she asked for the year. I did notice. She was talking to that group chat more than she ever had before. You asked for the ETA because you wanted to see what time anybody was walking in this motherfucker. You ain't wanted to write you catch you. That makes sense.
Starting point is 00:51:27 Blam in mall's chair. And what's crazy is I was late. You fucked on the set. I did not fuck on the set. On God. Well, you said, I know what you said on the set. There's a lot more square footage. There's a lot of sets here.
Starting point is 00:51:40 There's like two sets, technically. I'm the gang on the set. I didn't fuck. A little handy. Yo, why y'all? Like, y'all get horny at work. I'm not horny. I'm just starting to figure out what you were doing in the workspace that would a guy that's not your boyfriend.
Starting point is 00:51:52 That's your boyfriend. I get a little bit. I wanted to show him the space. Why you want to show him the space? Which space you show him? We were in the area. I don't want to be nobody. I'm cutting around.
Starting point is 00:52:00 Listen, I don't want to mean nobody that ain't going to be around. Is this nigga your boyfriend? Yes and no. I don't want to meet. He's always going to be around. So he's your boyfriend. Bullshit. bullshit because I walked in and there was just the two of them and obviously I know who Demaris is and I just see him and I'm like, what's up?
Starting point is 00:52:15 Can I know, I think maybe Ed and I are the only real ones here. The three of you guys have the same sauce because when that girl came in here, you didn't introduce her to none of them. I wasn't here for them. Damaris didn't introduce her dude to nobody in this office and you went on a coffee date on a weekday the way he does. My bad. The three of you guys just steal from my friend. My friend came here to use the bathroom. She didn't come ahead and meet me.
Starting point is 00:52:34 I wasn't there for that. I'm on your side on that. No, but Ma, that's crazy. She walked by five of us. She didn't come here to meet nobody. Also, it's off for being like, hi, nice to meet you all and then going to the bathroom using it. I could tell that that woman was raised with manners
Starting point is 00:52:46 and would have said that. Mall coached that girl in the car and say, get upstairs and don't say a fucking words, go use the bathroom. Don't touch none, no, ass, nothing. He'd do that. I'd never tell a girl that. What? No, my dumb ass introduced her to everyone like a fucking idiot.
Starting point is 00:52:57 Oh, same. That is my bags. Yo, everyone, look at me and her. She came to use the bathroom when she left. I wish I was more like you. Yeah, she came used the bathroom and left. No crime and I used the bathroom. When I got off.
Starting point is 00:53:09 They all become friends with my friends. I'm an idiot. He doesn't, he never, he introduced himself to me because the mayor's wouldn't fucking lead the intro. He goes, oh, I'm, I got nice to read you, enjoy it. And then he goes, oh, so this is your work husband. He said that shit with some shade. No.
Starting point is 00:53:25 Yo, you ain't pressed. I would have pressed him. I was like, what the fuck? Why are you? You let him come into our home. You let him walk in here and get pressed. Talk to you like that? Bring him back.
Starting point is 00:53:35 I got the nerve. As a gang, as a unit, we don't look very good. He's something to come. He got his shit off already. He ain't coming back. He got it off on you. He'll reply, I'll come back when I want to. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:53:45 No, I'm busy right now. I mean, I'm busy. Listening, you can come back. It's cool. We're cool. He probably replied, who do you think has Demaris key card? She ain't had it for two weeks. She said she lost it.
Starting point is 00:53:54 He took it. That's your boyfriend. It's okay. I'm going to come in tomorrow morning. He's be butt-ass cooking eggs. We ain't even got a stone. Yeah, he's going to bring his own hot plate. You go, you need some.
Starting point is 00:54:06 Fam, I'm good, fam. I'm good. Thank you, fam. That's funny, though. That's why you text ETA. Or maybe I just wanted, I just wanted y'all to meet him. That's why I wanted to know when y'all were getting here.
Starting point is 00:54:18 I want to ask you something? Why you want me to meet somebody that's not your boyfriend? Word. Y'all know my relationship with this person. The podcast knows my relationship with this person. We not got to act like this person isn't an important person to me. It was not in a relationship. I met him once.
Starting point is 00:54:31 And that was outside our other studio. Yeah. He knows. He got the all the John. I met him with Damaris's father. He's with my dad. Oh, okay, yes. I remember you told me that.
Starting point is 00:54:41 Okay, okay. All right, well, listen, baby, I'm sorry. I didn't get to meet him. Tell him that he's always welcome to come back. You could slip the seat. He sat there. I could do what? Why would he do that?
Starting point is 00:54:50 You change his diaper on that seat? Oh. Yo, I'm still mad that you had somebody that's not your boyfriend's shit in my seat. Like, I'm just like, if that was your boyfriend, that's family. Did he choose the seat? Yeah, he sat there. He said this. He said, this mall shit, right?
Starting point is 00:55:01 And they said it. Wow. Wait, is that more of a compliment toward? Y'all want me to come out of retirement to start swinging on niggas again. Listen, I'm a grown man now. I'm going to, God, those days are over with it. I walked in this place like, it was not my.
Starting point is 00:55:14 What's up, fam? Like, you used to visit it? Then I walked to the couch. Yeah, no, why didn't he? They was at my desk. I was like, now, y'all, you're good? I didn't even want to go to my desk. Yeah, yeah, no, don't get up.
Starting point is 00:55:25 I didn't even come here for work. You guys want coffee or anything? He got an Instagram? No, he don't use Instagram. He's not. He definitely uses it on. He doesn't. Why he don't use Instagram?
Starting point is 00:55:35 Why you told him to delete his shit? I didn't tell him to delete. He's never been an Instagram person. He don't use Instagram. Word? He didn't have Instagram. Make him some followers, man. Are we bleeping his name?
Starting point is 00:55:45 I hope so. Y'all can say his name. I ain't hiding shit from nobody. Oh, okay. All right. Y'all had some wild weekends, it seems like. Weekends? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:55:56 I mean, if that's how Demaris started her Monday morning, I know the weekend had to be crazy. Yours must have been, too. They had a birthday party for you in Atlantic City. That blackjack billionaire. That was my birthday party. Look at that setup. Robert Kraft. Yeah, it was a great night, man.
Starting point is 00:56:09 Had a lot of fun. Did you go? No. Oh. I didn't know. Do you play back Blackjack? Mm-mm. Any games?
Starting point is 00:56:15 No. Am I going to sound like a hater if I just really. Yep. What? Thought that whole thing was dumb. What? All right. If you show us all this promotion of all, everyone hanging out and everyone's using
Starting point is 00:56:30 each other's celebrity and fan bases to do the recap of all this, you need to show us what. happens with the prison reform after. Oh, yeah. Don't quietly, because there's been so much prison reform talk, and I'm not saying you owe us the answer, or like,
Starting point is 00:56:46 owe us the work that you're doing and show us the results. But stop all these fucking parties of all celebrities getting together. It's like insulting. That's covering the entire weekend of every rich person we could think of being there in the name of prison reform, which sounds great. We can easily give that to a PR company.
Starting point is 00:57:04 Who the fuck doesn't want to? want to see all these guys do prison reform. It's great. Right. There needs to be some follow-up. Same thing I said with the black squares and the music industry shutting down. Nothing changed. Yeah. You guys still didn't tell me why you took that day off. Nothing changed that day. I mean, a lot of those things are, you know, it's... But that's what so many of those Hollywood celebrities do as well as billionaires get those charity 5013C tax breaks and do these parties and all hang together and then nothing changes. So I'm not ready to applaud everyone that was there.
Starting point is 00:57:35 Call me a hater. No, it's not about hating. I mean, I think you're just making an observation. I think that most people have. What is it? Where is this money going? What exactly are y'all doing with prison reform? And you have to tell me the whole plan?
Starting point is 00:57:47 Yeah, no, but just show us something. Yeah, just some updates of that. You're going to give us the videos and the pictures from the party. Then give us the videos in the pictures from when the work is actually being done. I understand what you're saying. And any time I feel like Jay tries to do something positive in the media. they always dig up some clip to shit on them. While this was happening,
Starting point is 00:58:05 he did an interview with Kevin Hart, what, like a year and a half ago? Yeah. Two years where he was discussing going home for Thanksgiving and people asking him for money. Do you have the clip? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:58:16 You're going home for a piece of mind. They don't get you that because you're not. You're not. The cousins in your grandma's living room saying, yo, man, I got this play. I want to, if you just give me, you know what I mean? Forte-800, I could make you two million.
Starting point is 00:58:30 You're like, it don't want. work like. He's right. They was killing Jay-Z on Twitter for this. Well, they're killing him because he's a billionaire, $4,800 is nothing to him. But what he's saying is when you reach a certain level of success and you have a certain, you know, certain tax bracket, people obviously know the type of money you're making, people come at you for any and everything.
Starting point is 00:58:52 I got this I'm trying to do. I got this I'm trying to do it. Like you become everybody's hope or everybody's, you know, way to their dreams in a way. but if your dream starts with just me lonely you $4,800? You're creating an enabler. If someone comes with an actual business plan, and even if it's not fully flushed out because they're green to it, as a lot of people are because they're opportunities,
Starting point is 00:59:15 yeah, I think that's where a billionaire should always give their family money and give them opportunity. I don't think that's what Jay Z was talking about at all. No. I think he was just at Thanksgiving and some cousin that does absolutely nothing, has never done anything, had plenty of opportunities that Jay has probably even given him because we all know Rock Nation how much of his family members work in that building. Yo, can I get, just say you want $4,800.
Starting point is 00:59:36 That's it. That be the thing a lot of times. It's just like, yo, just say you want that, but understand that you aren't enabling that person. You know, you give somebody $5,000. It's like, all, cool. The first of the month come around every month. So them bills are going to come around another 30 days. Whatever you do with this $5,000 right now, because if you ask somebody for $5,000, you know what?
Starting point is 00:59:58 you probably really need $20,000. You just don't want to ask me for $20 because you normally be like, well, that's a little aggressive. You came in a little hot with that, $20K? Like, what you doing with $20,000? Trying to pay bills, you know, whatever, whatever. Understand times is tough. But at the same time, you just asking me to give you a Band-Aid.
Starting point is 01:00:16 It's like you need a, it's a bigger fix that you have to do. You have to get a steady income. You have to start doing some things that bring in you a steady income and stop trying to hustle and just jump in the thing because that's probably why you're in a situation you're in. Because you're hustling, you're trying to just find something that works when you need something steady and consistent. You need a consistent.
Starting point is 01:00:34 Like, it's good to chase your dreams, but you got to have something already coming in that's able to fund just your day-to-day living. So what's the fine line between giving your family money and then giving like your friends money? You don't want to just enable people. And that's the thing that people understand. You don't want to enable somebody.
Starting point is 01:00:54 Because, again, you asking me for $5,000 because you fucked up right now. as a friend, I'm probably going to help you. Like, damn, I understand times get tough. And if I'm able to help, I'm able to help. Let's say you're my cousin. I'm like, damn, like you. If I'm able to help, I've been in that situation. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:01:09 If I'm able to help, I'm able to help. Never expected. The fucked up. The fucked up part is when you're not able to help because you probably helping somebody else right now or you probably doing a bunch of other things right now, and then people get upset at you. It's like, yo, but I just, when you didn't ask me for shit, I was sending you money. Like, yo, fam, fam, it's a little, you know, 2000.
Starting point is 01:01:28 He's a little $3,000. It's a little $5,000. Like, you know, whatever. But now when at one time you probably need something and I'm over here helping somebody else, I didn't give somebody else some money or I don't loan somebody else. And I'm just trying to, because one thing about it,
Starting point is 01:01:43 if somebody, one of my friends and my family asked me for money, I'm never expecting it back. No. You'd be stupid. Never. Otherwise. I just get mad. Where I get mad is when you start acting funny,
Starting point is 01:01:55 you avoiding me. And it's like, I'm not going to even ask you about that money, but like, why you ain't come to the family dinner, nigga? What? Like, I'm not going to ask you for that money, but like, don't, don't not start showing up to, like, now you just avoid, like, that's, now you move in fun. Now you're just, it's corny now. Now you look crazy
Starting point is 01:02:10 because I'm not, I don't care about that money. Cool. If you, you know you owe me money, whenever you got it, send it to me. Yo, here, I got that, you let me that, it could be 10 years from now. Yo, remember that $5,000 he gave me back in 2020? Yo, here. And I already accounted in my brain that I wasn't getting
Starting point is 01:02:27 back to begin with it. So it's a surprise if you send it back. Yeah. Girl math, technically you got a free $5,000. It's just more annoying in like those type of scenarios where it be friends or family members that you don't speak to. Yeah. And then the one time y'all speak, that's the subject that we're talking about.
Starting point is 01:02:44 I just, it's disrespect. Again, you know what it is a lot of the times I just get like, I'm just like a laugh at it takes a lot for me, me to ask anybody for anything. So, people ask me for shit, I'm like, okay, how long was you sitting and contemplating asking
Starting point is 01:03:04 me that? And then it's like, okay, cool, here. But then the moment I kid, now you acting, I'm acting funny or I changed and I just like, no, I just can't do it right now. Demarish has got me tight. Why? Girl math. I hate fucking girl math.
Starting point is 01:03:19 You know what girl math is? No. Teach us. Tell us what girl math is, DeMaris. So there was this thing that was going to viral about girl math. the girls were talking about. It's a reason to be stupid. It's not a reason to be stupid.
Starting point is 01:03:32 It's just this is like, it's a reason to be responsible. It is so crazy. It's what finances soft life. No. So we were having, the girls were having fun. So girl math is something like if I,
Starting point is 01:03:40 if I have to pay for to get my hair done, it's $150 and I planned I'm paying for it myself. And my boyfriend gives me $100 and like $150 to get my hair done. Technically I got my hair done for free. Like, do you kind of see what I'm saying? Yeah. Someone else paid for it. then yeah, you got it for free.
Starting point is 01:03:59 No, but it's like, technically, like, no, the whole hairstyle was free. Or if he gave me, yes. Or if I go to the store. She just gave $150 for your hair cut. Yes. If I go to the store and I spend $50 and then I find $100, $100 in my pocket, technically I made $50.
Starting point is 01:04:16 Like, are you seeing what I'm saying? Okay, so it's children math. It's just, it was a fun. It's dependent math. It's bragging about being retarded. It's not bragging about anything. It was a fun thing that girl. It's how children live their lives.
Starting point is 01:04:29 It's how girls rationalize spending money. It was a cute. Rationalize is not the word. I don't know if there's much ration. No, we rationed out the money. It's how girls want to spend money. That's how they rationalize. It's how every woman wakes up and wants to spend money.
Starting point is 01:04:42 But the reason why I said that is because if you give me $5,000 and you never plan on me giving it back and then I give it back, girl Mathis, oh my God, I just made a free $5,000 because I wasn't accounting for that money, but I got it. That's why got me tight. But you know, like math is. This is the thing. Girls don't, y'all, like, everybody's like, oh my God, it's so stupid. Like, calm down. It's a fucking joke.
Starting point is 01:05:02 But, like, the men are like, you guys are just dumb. Some of y'all joking. Some of y'all joking. Some of y'all joking. Most of y'all are. And I'll give an example. I went to an apartment party that was hosted by girls for something last week with a few of my guy friends.
Starting point is 01:05:15 And we were explicitly told by the girls, hey, don't worry about it. We'll cover all the alcohol. Don't bring anything. We looked at each other like, there's no fucking way that they're going to buy enough alcohol for, they'll buy one bottle for 10 people. and be like, they did it.
Starting point is 01:05:28 Yeah. It's exactly what happened. We get there. The drinks are done in the first 10 minutes. We're like, what are we doing here, man? Well, you hang with cheap girls who can't drink. That's the thing.
Starting point is 01:05:36 The women logic, because they're not used to doing shit like that. They're not used to have a supply alcohol. Just their whole life alcohol is just a pier. Just everything just happens. Yeah, this table. So they didn't know how much it actually takes. They literally don't.
Starting point is 01:05:47 They don't accommodate for how much people actually consume. This is going to sound misogynistic because I'm putting it into the kitchen and food. They didn't measure it. It's, I'll just put it with people like, don't know how to cook. It's like if somebody wanted to cook pasta and bought like just the smallest amount thinking that could feed seven people
Starting point is 01:06:05 they finish and it's just for two people. Yeah. Because their whole life they've just ordered pasta. Yeah. They don't know what it takes to actually make it what goes into it like oh, I just thought you got sauce and some noodles. They think it's like when Jesus fed that whole village with one fish. Yeah. That's what they, that's
Starting point is 01:06:21 girl math. Yeah. But they needed a prostitute. The prostitutes on them. Jesus math. Me and all, me and all, me and all my home girls, if we order and liquor for the gang, like we order and liquor for the, like, you know how, that's just common sense. So those people didn't have common sense. That's not girl math. They didn't have common sense.
Starting point is 01:06:37 Like, I know how to order, if I'm ordering for a party, I'm hosting a party and I'm ordering alcohol for a party, I'm going to order more than what's necessary. But that I have. That's what I'm saying with the kitchen analogy. You're used to throwing parties. You know what that takes, what it's like. How much shit can go through so quickly with just four people.
Starting point is 01:06:54 These are people that just typically women. themselves. Their whole life shit has just appeared. Once they needed something, someone else got it for them. They never knew what it took. They only knew about themselves and shit just appeared. I know I drink this much. We're not making that exclusive to just women though, right?
Starting point is 01:07:11 In the social... I'm gonna fuck out of here. That's just privilege. I'm joking. That's a privileged people. But in the social sphere, especially in New York, I know we're privileged in party in New York. Women, you've said this. They don't go out with their wallet.
Starting point is 01:07:26 There's no, the thought of having to pay for everything is foreign. That's crazy girl math. Like, that's insane. That's girl math. Not going out, leaving the house with just your ID and your lip glow. That's beyond math. That's just terrible live. That's a shitty lifestyle.
Starting point is 01:07:40 I'm just saying, that's what girl math is. Well, the response to that is a lot of the compasses. I still don't have a wallet or credit cards. See? That's insane. See? I'm saying? Girl math.
Starting point is 01:07:47 Girl math. Wait, wait. Why do you think, why I think dude was here? We all in. Yeah. Oh, that's what I'm. Girl, man. He had to make up for the girl.
Starting point is 01:07:55 He was the equation in the girl. mad. Like, he'll pick up the coffee. He was solving for X. Oh, yeah, because I begged you guys to help me move and none of you did. We're not going to help you. And then Rory offered to pay for it and didn't do that either. So, like, yeah. You know, see, but that's crazy. A company did it for free. That's crazy. That's crazy. Shout out to the company that did it for free. Don't do that. Yeah, oh, no, no, no. Shout out to rabbit movers. They were absolutely amazing.
Starting point is 01:08:17 They were great. They were amazing. This is girl, man. This is a girl, man. It's a girl life. It's a girl world. So someone was going to do it for free. But I should have paid for it. This is before they offered. Who runs the world? George Soros? No, girls.
Starting point is 01:08:32 For sure, they. I was going to go with the things. They. You were scared to say it. You didn't even know a pronoun to you. They. We know who they are. Gotcha.
Starting point is 01:08:45 All right, but do you guys know about boy math? Yeah, one plus one equals two. Okay. That's not a bad way. You know, logic. I think, yeah, I think we're pretty, like, logical, right? I'd like to think. Maul, do you think we're logical?
Starting point is 01:08:56 I think that we are logical. I think that men, that's the problem. We're too logical. Right. What the fuck? Earth was not built for logic. No. Not the rap.
Starting point is 01:09:04 Okay, what is boy math? What's boy math? So basically when the girls were having, just having their fun on Twitter, just talking about girl math. Boy math is, I don't know no fucking Keanu. And then the guys came in was like, oh my God, girls fucking suck. You're not funny y'all. This girl math is just stupid.
Starting point is 01:09:18 Is that Julian's a cat? So girls. 100%. Women aren't funny. I mean, that has nothing to do with math, but it's also true. So girls. So girls turned around and was like, see, we were just having fun, but now we're going to talk about boy math.
Starting point is 01:09:29 And, like, you know how women always get in the argument and they just take it too far. Like, they started touching on, like, childhood trauma and shit. They were like, well, boy math, they said. That's not insane. This one girl was like, boy math is your father leaving you and you hating your mother for it and treating all women with, like, shit. That's not insane. You should have picked a better guy. I don't think that's the response
Starting point is 01:09:57 you're supposed to say right. No, but that's what they're right. That's not what the therapist are telling me to do. Boy math is having a body count of 300 and not making any of them come. Boy math is. That's some hater ass. See, you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:10:10 Y'all always go, yeah, see, that's the problem with women. But this is the thing. They were sitting up there having fun and men just doing girl shit and men started coming to fuck with them. They're doing all the little math jokes on phones they don't pay for. And then is that a shot? I don't know. Not a you.
Starting point is 01:10:24 No, that's not a shot. We know nothing about your phone bills. But you told on yourself. That's not a shot. That's not a shot. Look at that. Hey, look. If it feels like a shot, it wasn't supposed to be a shot.
Starting point is 01:10:36 But if it feels like a shot, listen, man, it is what it is. It's just boy math. That's what that is. Do you know. McDonald's and connect to their free Wi-Fi. Yeah. Okay. Boy math is being afraid of gold diggers.
Starting point is 01:10:46 You only have three pairs of socks to your name and being afraid women are going to use you for money you don't have. Okay. Well, maybe he has ambition and knows. Ah. Going to. You got to see the signs already. He got potential. Boy, man, is if my girlfriend is clean,
Starting point is 01:10:57 why do I need an STD test? Sorry. Wait, why would you? You'd be surprised. That's definitely boy math. If she's clean, that's going to, you're only fucking your girl. I know some chicks that ad like that too, though.
Starting point is 01:11:09 A math is like that too. But no, wait, break that one down for me. If your girl is clean and you're not fucking around, you're only fucking your girl who is clean, why would you get tested? I understand what you said. But they're not just talking about
Starting point is 01:11:20 just your girl. Like, there are, like, there are men who, plenty of men who think like that period. My girlfriend doesn't necessarily have to mean like your actual... To a girlfriend. Just the girl you're regularly fucking. We're talking about the tweet. No, I understand. But the girl for the...
Starting point is 01:11:32 Well, now you're adding different context. In the context of the tweet, he's fucking a girl. That's clean. Why would you get tested? Damaris. I mean, Damaris. That's to do with cheating. No, I know. I would have called him. So I interpreted that one that someone else is fucking a bunch of people. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:11:44 You were dumb enough to think that they're... They don't need to get to... See, I'm a faithful man. I don't know. I just read that ass. If your girl, Bernie, you stay with her? Of course he would. If I, wait, of course he would. You're like, no, no, no, I'm saying.
Starting point is 01:11:57 Wait, you have more than a no right now? No, just shut up. He said like he about to be explanation. There's no context. Okay. Say she was clean and we were dating. And then one time we fuck and I get burned. Uh-huh.
Starting point is 01:12:12 And I haven't done anything. Then, yeah, I would be like, this is ridiculous. This is over. But say, it was like the first night we met and we hooked up and I got burned. And I was like, damn, that sucks. But then a relationship. came from that. Got you.
Starting point is 01:12:24 I'm not mad. Yeah, you can still fall in love. That wasn't the question. There's a fucking got to. That wasn't the question. No, that wasn't the question.
Starting point is 01:12:31 But if a girl burned, I don't give a fuck when the burn happens. She burns you. It's way worse. If you're dating for a year and then you're good and then you get burned. Like, bitch, what is this? I think it's crazy if you hook up with a girl the first time,
Starting point is 01:12:43 like a girl burning you on the first hookup, the first hookup, the first hookup she burned you? That's, I mean. But I feel like that. And then you sucks. And then you, but then you spin and make me a runner,
Starting point is 01:12:52 a girl? It can happen. Would you, I would you date a woman that's burnt another guy before? Would I date a woman that's... In the past. Like, she's burnt. Anything can happen. I mean, how would I know? Would I ask that? Like, you ever burn somebody? Let's just say it ended up on Reddit. I don't know. I mean... You found out.
Starting point is 01:13:12 You've been burnt and spun the blog. And you've dated a girl that's burnt somebody. You know what era we live in? No, I'm not... Wait, you said I dated a girl that burnt somebody? Probably. I'm pretty sure I had it. But I didn't know it, though.
Starting point is 01:13:23 But I'm saying if you do find out, are you still dating her? I know what the man is about to say, go for it. So no, let him all answer the question, because I already know what he's going to say. Go answer. If a girl burned to God and I know would I date her? Yeah, we asked you that five times, yes. Step. Yes, he would.
Starting point is 01:13:39 It depends. Yes, he would. Yes, he would. So yes. It's not a yes. That's not a no. It depends. Because if a girl.
Starting point is 01:13:46 Oh, my God. What is? Hold on. No, no. No, that's crazy. That's why. I'm saying like, Say that, say she got, say, say she cheated on her boyfriend.
Starting point is 01:13:56 Yep. A dude burned her, she didn't know. We went, next day, slept with her boyfriend. That's how she burned her boyfriend. Oh, shit. Then it's like, that's fucked up because she didn't, okay, yeah, she's a cheater. She cheated her man before. But it's like, that's not a reason to not date a girl.
Starting point is 01:14:08 Now, if she was a girl that knew she was burning and she was just actively like, sizzling niggas, I'm not dating that bitch. Chibati. Yeah, I'm not, take that hot box and put that shit somewhere. I don't want that. Of course, but that, because that shows a lot about her. her character, but let's not... Maul's lying right now.
Starting point is 01:14:25 There's no way if he found out the girl he was dating was in a relationship before him, cheated on her man, and then brought back home and STD the next day. You are not... You're going to say once a cheater, always a cheater, there's no way you're doing that. And he's going to call her a whore.
Starting point is 01:14:41 I mean... In his defense, that was whore behavior. Now, the whore... The whore card is like, I use that, like, I don't use that seldom. Like, I use that very, like, you want to keep that in your back. Well, no, wait, not calling her a whore. Wait, wait, wait. Are we this progressive now?
Starting point is 01:14:54 A woman that's in a long-term relationship cheats on her boyfriend and brings home at STD. That's not checking off the checklist of whore. Yeah, that's a hoar. I just want to make sure we weren't that progressive. No, no, no, no, no. So the cheating, the cheating, the raw. That is girl, no, no, no.
Starting point is 01:15:09 Carried a one niggia to the other nigga minus the- cheating. Cheating raw makes you a whore. I like sexy red too. Cheating period makes you a whore. Cheating with a condom is in the horses? No, no, no, that's not what she is. The emphasis on the cheating, not the raw.
Starting point is 01:15:21 I just said raw because obviously about an STD. I'm just saying, so y'all think if somebody cheats on their significant other, that that makes them a whore. Raw is an exponent. And then you add in a little dash of chlamydia that can bring back home. But that's not fair because she didn't make the choice. The cheating was a choice. The cheating was a chlamydia was not the choice. Catching the chlamydia was God working.
Starting point is 01:15:39 That was God working. I'm not saying she would be drafted in the first round of the whore draft, but she's definitely a solid second round. She's making the team. I did not know cheating made you a whore. I didn't know that. I'm talking about bringing an STD back. Yeah, that starts to ask. But see, the hoaring is about the fucking, not the STD.
Starting point is 01:15:59 If I cheat on you and catch a fucking cold, like that doesn't affect. It does. You bring that shit to my house. You're getting me sick because you fucked another person. If you're going to call me a hoar for cheating, call me a hoar for cheating. Yeah. Not caring about my health. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:16:11 That's like, come on. If you're going to fuck him, at least wear a condom. At least. And, like, know who you're fucking. Yeah. That's bullshit and that's cap. I don't like that. Why?
Starting point is 01:16:19 Because if I did it's bullshit. If we did it's the same shit. If I was cheating on you, we're not making a girl role. Gender specific. No, no, no, no, no. You're saying know who you're fucking. Yes.
Starting point is 01:16:27 Like there's a certain type of person who has STDs and there's a certain type of person who doesn't. It is. We're in this, especially coming from you when you don't wear condoms and never have. And I have been burnt. Damn. So.
Starting point is 01:16:39 But does that, but does that? I don't know if that's how it works. I don't know if you can yell out burnt gang. I don't know. You're all lying. I don't know if that's, I've never been burnt. I have met some people who have never been burnt for.
Starting point is 01:16:49 I've met people who have never been. The only person I believe in that case is mall. That's crazy. What the fuck? He just started getting pussy like last year. Why don't believe him? That's, that's all. He had a girl from a person.
Starting point is 01:17:00 I know. I just started getting pussy. But you don't think you can cheat, right? Like, I'm not saying that cheating makes you the whore. I'm saying how you're cheating can make you a whore. That's what I'm suggesting. You're just going to fuck some random dirty dick that you don't know. See, you have no idea who this person is.
Starting point is 01:17:17 They didn't know that. She can have a long-term relationship. or a history with this person. It could have been, it could be her ex. It could be anything. And he cannot be a dirty. STDs don't make you dirty. I'm telling you, the woman that burnt me,
Starting point is 01:17:28 if she was in a long-term relationship and went back and gave that STD, even if I was the one that burnt her. Let's flip it. Still a whore. When you got burnt, you knew she was going to be dirty? No.
Starting point is 01:17:40 It was someone I actually knew. Even worse, but that's what I'm saying. Fuck people you know. Oh, fuck you. Well, you just fucking random dick. No, you knew her. But that's the point. Like, STDs are very easily,
Starting point is 01:17:48 are very easy to kid. I was also 19 and very unaware of how easy it was to get an estimate. Feel like COVID. And maybe a little too trusting at that age with women I was sleeping with. I feel like if you're going to cheat and you're going home and constantly fucking the person you're with, you should at least, if you're going to cheat, cheat safely. Like, I know people lie when they say, have you gotten an STD test? Because I've been in situations where women have asked me that and I've appreciated that. When was the last time you got an SDD test?
Starting point is 01:18:17 Okay, this is the last time I got mine. I'm clean just to let you know. That is at least the first level of safe sex. If you're going to cheat, at least ask the fucking question. I agree with you. I'm not saying that someone. But also if you're going to cheat, you probably don't want to cheat with someone that's going to lie to you too
Starting point is 01:18:30 because you're going to need them in your corner when you get caught. Now that I think about it, isn't girl math. Don't y'all saying girl math 101 that cheating with a condom isn't cheating? 101. If he's wearing a condom it don't count. That's a man's shit. Girls wouldn't say that. No, I'd definitely.
Starting point is 01:18:44 I'll say if he wore a condom. It doesn't count as a body. Yeah. And not only that. Then Drea Drea invented Gavre invented, right? When she said your honus gets deleted. Yes.
Starting point is 01:18:51 When? When? Girl subtraction. Your honus definitely gets deleted. When? When do you hit the rest? I feel like there's different levels. What's the factory reset on honus?
Starting point is 01:18:59 I feel like. You get a boyfriend. Oh. For sure. Like I feel like anybody else. It's not for sure. Don't throw for sure out there. Anybody I slept with before 21 like doesn't count.
Starting point is 01:19:08 He still hit that. Oh. Like 21 years old? 21 years old. He can still run around and say, yo, I, I blame DeMaris's cakes. No, you didn't. Actually, and actually,
Starting point is 01:19:16 your cells regenerate. Cells regenerate. Every seven years, you're a completely different person. It's a completely different fuck. You ain't fuck me. You fuck the old body. I wasn't even fat. Did you just call the new Nicki song?
Starting point is 01:19:27 Your cells regenerate? Your cells regenerate. So that means we never fuck. You fuck some skinny bitch. I don't even know her. She's a different one. She's Pokemon. How do you got new lips?
Starting point is 01:19:40 Gigapet. Yo, your cells regenerating is a new one. I never heard that before. That's a whole different pussy. it is. I could somewhat agree with the 21-year-old thing because if some dude was walking around saying he fucked my girl in high school,
Starting point is 01:19:53 I'd be like, you're really corny. Yeah, that's corny. Like, corny to back about it, but it's corny regardless, but like if someone really thought they had a stat that they fucked my girl in high school, I'd be like, like, get away from me.
Starting point is 01:20:05 Yeah, no, he can't throw that out there, but she can't say that they never fuck. Yeah, but it didn't, that doesn't, like, matter. No, it doesn't matter. Because I'm somewhere in the middle with that body count shit, and I don't want to have that conversation.
Starting point is 01:20:15 When she's doing her Britney Renner account, she needs not to include them. Britney Renner account. That's Girl Maff. I love Britney Renner. She said she had 30 bodies. 35. And people were like, oh my God, that what a whore. I said, thought there was going to be more.
Starting point is 01:20:30 That's my mom. You know why you thought there was going to be more? Why? Because there's more. She's captain. I was shocked at all the outrage of that. Like 35, not a lot. It's not a small number, but that's not a lot for somebody in their 30s.
Starting point is 01:20:44 Number two, why is no one outrage that? that woman is completely fucking lying. Yeah. Well, why y'all put more bodies on her? Like, y'all don't know her. Y'all don't know who she fucking. It's not a bad thing if she did have more, but I just feel like if you fucking three dudes in 24 hours, that's girl math.
Starting point is 01:20:56 And you land on 35 and how you give it up is three a day? That's not the first time you get that. No, you go fuck three niggas in one day and not regularly fuck three niggas in one day. True. You fuck two or three bitches in one day. Do you regularly fuck two or three bitches in one day? That was mall math. Don't do that.
Starting point is 01:21:12 See? That's all math. See? I wasn't even expecting you to say that. Don't throw that on me. I don't do that. You never did that? Oh, I've definitely done that.
Starting point is 01:21:23 So how is he growing up? Let me be hit. Let me be very clear. I'm definitely going on that. But you don't regularly do it, right? I fuck three girls the same night in the same house. Damn. We was all in the same party together.
Starting point is 01:21:35 Train, choo-choo-choo. A New Year's party. I never finished. Oh, they ran through you. I looked at that. I looked in the mirror. I dropped in the shower after the third chick. I said, I'm fucking.
Starting point is 01:21:43 But one of them got deleted because it became a new year. Yeah. Also, I feel like it didn't turn over. So technically only fucked one girl that night. In Brittany's mind, she probably says, okay, there was three there that one night. But that all happened in the same thing. Therefore, it's one body.
Starting point is 01:21:57 One heart. So one. That was one session. If she didn't shower in between, definitely that was one dick. One long dick. Brittany, Rinda looked like she got some good sex. I know that. Yeah, she's gorgeous.
Starting point is 01:22:08 She looked like she's a lot of fun. You think she showered in between? I don't know what that girl was doing with her pussy. It's a lot of showers in one day. That's a lot of showers. I mean, there's two showers. No. Two showers.
Starting point is 01:22:18 That's Girl math. You should shower before. One body. Yeah. You should shower before. Every time you have sex? That's cat. You have a newborn.
Starting point is 01:22:37 I know you got shower. Not, not. You don't, maybe not. Nothing's happening. Maybe not jump right in the shower after. do you finish having sex, but if I know that I'm going to have sex for somebody else, like today?
Starting point is 01:22:48 No, we're talking about her last body. Like her last one of the night. No, you need a, soaking a bath, like, with some clorex. I'm like, you can't know. That last shower needs to be the one. You can't hear of her.
Starting point is 01:23:01 You got out here giving bitches BV. You did a bird bath. What is it? What's BV? Wait, so y'all don't show after sex? They've had genesis, yeah. Never heard of it?
Starting point is 01:23:10 No. I'm not doing it. Boy, math. No, that shit. that's not that's boy science. Yomi, am I crazy? What? Y'all don't shower after sex?
Starting point is 01:23:19 The fuck is wrong with y'all? Yeah, no, no. No, but not. I think Demarge was asking if, like, soon as soon as soon, but there will be a shower. Very soon. One thing I'm going to do is wash my ass.
Starting point is 01:23:31 That's one thing I'm going to do. I go to bed. Yes, you go to bed, wake up, jumping in a shower. I'll shower, but it'll be like a nice seat. If you sleep in the juices, that's not showering after sex. It's like eight hours later. You got it for a minute. a little bit. I did that one time and a girl got offended.
Starting point is 01:23:46 What? Showered after? Yeah. I was like, why are you mad? She was like, are you trying to say? I was like, no, I'm just. I would like to be clean. It was summertime, it was hot, back sweating. That's such terrible thinking. Even if people are clean, you should. Yeah, I'm like, that's what to take a shower. She's like, oh, I thought you was trying to say something. Both people would peeve immediately.
Starting point is 01:24:02 You should pee immediately. You should pee. This is a whole. That's more so because I just, it's an exchange. You're inside someone's body. This is a exchange. You should clean. You get a hard. You wash your beard after you eat pussy? 100% You fucking loser?
Starting point is 01:24:14 100%. That makes you a loser? I don't do that fucking old myth. I'm older now. That whole eat pussy, make your beard grow, leave the pussy juices. That was reserved for my 20s.
Starting point is 01:24:25 I'm not trying to sound like I'm old. I'm just at this point in my life, I really want to wash my face. Well, that's how I got this. I used to leave it there too, but not anymore. It doesn't help your beard. Is that about helping your beard?
Starting point is 01:24:37 Maybe you just might like the way that person smells. I don't know, maybe, you know. No, that's just gross. No, you can't. Yeah, you can't walk around. I don't want to smell your butt on my top lip while I'm going to get some Cheerios or something.
Starting point is 01:24:46 Y'all ain't freaky enough. Doodoo flakes? Excuse me? Well, no, the freakingness is over. Like, we're done now. Nah. So we can clean ourselves. Freakiness is a lifestyle.
Starting point is 01:24:56 Talk that shit, baby, Dee. That's what you said. Bro. See? Smell your seat. I don't want to bring Arkellie into this, but he had that weird shit. All right.
Starting point is 01:25:06 No, no, no. He had that. You can't say, y'all don't want to bring Arkelly into this and then bring him into this. But, but out of him. Outside of the young girl thing, in that doc, when they were talking about he wanted the girls to, like, stink and, like, smell throughout the day? Is that the type of freak you talking about?
Starting point is 01:25:21 No, I'm not talking about that. Of age. You can eat. I've heard there's plenty of men that, like, really want women to stink. They're not old. Those are Vikings. Roy, you're the one. A.K.A. Rory, because he's the one that came out and said he, like,
Starting point is 01:25:33 his pussy was seasoned in it. Oh, yeah. That's not a stink. That's a different. No, that's not stink. It's a smell. It's twang. I'm surprised you like that because you're such a picky eater.
Starting point is 01:25:43 Is he? Is he? Rory's not a piquier. There's specific things you don't like. He eats pork. He doesn't like seafood. That's why he watches this. That's not true.
Starting point is 01:25:53 He eats swan. He doesn't eat seafood. Okay. Oh, yes, he does. I like pussy to have a personality with the smell. I don't like the straight, extremely clean no smell. I don't like a nasty smell. Twang.
Starting point is 01:26:07 You want a new car smell? No, because that's probably black ice. You know, one is the, Someone like black guys is crazy. You're going to call us. You'll wipe this on your box real quick. Oh, man. You've got mail.
Starting point is 01:26:29 Let's get into voicemails. Let's give bidet guy here some advice. That's what he calls himself. Badega. I want to get a bidet. I'm going to paint a picture. I just want. It's not the picture.
Starting point is 01:26:38 You ought to tell me what you would do in this situation, if you were in this situation, especially de Merritt. You're with a girl. End of your time, you all have relations. she does the and she can't continue and you never get to get your shit off what would y'all do
Starting point is 01:26:57 if every single time y'all have relations she does the and then she's like she taps out taps out every time what would you do? I don't understand them
Starting point is 01:27:11 so she can't yeah she's busting and then she stops she can't continue after she comes he doesn't gotcha oh that's simple you got a new bitch pretty easy voice voice mail thank you for that voicemail i hope you solved that for you like that's simple like you got to get a new girl is that has that happened to you and like didn't like me touch over here didn't want me to continue no if girls have come but it's like stop like no more sex after you
Starting point is 01:27:40 i don't think she would want to come again no demaris would you want to come again come again Yeah, well, sometimes, well, with some women, after they orgasm, it becomes, sex becomes painful. Penetration becomes painful after they orgasm. Understandably. You know. You're going to get this wreck, though. That's happening. I'm not stopping.
Starting point is 01:28:00 So what I would. So how is it? I didn't go. If you really, really like her and you don't want to get a new bitch like Maher suggested, how about you have her performed fallacious for you almost to the point where you're about to come and then stop, start having sex. And then so that when it's. That's too much shit.
Starting point is 01:28:17 That's too much girl mad. Yeah, that's too much girl mad. I'm more like, why are you bidet guy? I was just confused. Yeah, why is his name bidet guy? I don't know. That's why I was lost because I was trying to connect a day guy with the noises he was making.
Starting point is 01:28:29 I was like, are they having anvil? Is this the guy, said the voicemail about using a bidet and said that shit was incredible? Probably. I'm assuming that's, we're supposed to put that together. And that's the sound that he used. Yeah, I think simple, just you would have to, just sexually it's not compatible.
Starting point is 01:28:44 And if you're not sexually compatible with your partner Then y'all don't need to hear like there's no solution for that whatsoever It's just it's clipped So as soon as you come It's like I would just give me head until I finish I wouldn't how many times am I going to deal with that I like head I love head
Starting point is 01:28:57 Love pussy too too Yeah like you're not saying nothing I'm not saying great yeah but I'm not going Oh you came all well guess you got to just But how long is she like ooh Like two seconds Yeah that's what I'm saying How long is the sex
Starting point is 01:29:10 Because if you just some nigga that lasts too long Then maybe the problem is you If you're fucking like 15 minutes. That's great. Girl math. She just said 300 bodies. It's something wrong with that. It's something wrong with that box.
Starting point is 01:29:21 That's not. You ain't making me tap out. That's not true. I'm just saying. You ain't making me tap out. Well, we don't know how long they're having sex. That's true. We don't know how long they're going.
Starting point is 01:29:30 That's true. But you said it's something wrong with him. It's not wrong with the pussy. From lifestyle. Remember, Doug? You could like. You guys, you can leave. You can leave.
Starting point is 01:29:41 You can leave. You're like, you don't have to be. You're like, you're like, you don't have to be. I don't know what you're going through right now but I'm a pray for it. It's a really good song. I know what your talk. Everybody knows that.
Starting point is 01:29:50 Free thug. Free thug. But yeah. Yeah, well maybe you know, maybe you can't nut because you don't like pussy. I don't know. See, that's crazy. He said he likes pussy. That's crazy to say that.
Starting point is 01:30:01 Are you going to flip that on that? Nah, some niggas be gay and can't nut, bro. I'm not putting that on you, but some niggas can't be gay and they can't nut from pussy because they don't like pussy that much and they're trying to convince themselves that they do. That's all I'm saying. But I'm not saying that about. Listen, you're not wrong. Thank you.
Starting point is 01:30:16 But then there's an or. Wait, but how do you get hard? Just whack. How is this his fault? Well, obviously the box is not wet because I feel like he would have said that. He's just saying that he makes sense. No, but dudes don't know. That's not a weird on.
Starting point is 01:30:25 Said obviously. One thing I learned, one thing I learned, dudes don't know what, a lot of some dudes don't know what whack boxes. No, they don't know what good boxes. Same, same. Same, same shit. They just can't, they don't know what good or whack boxes. You guys said the same thing. Same shit.
Starting point is 01:30:41 They don't know what good or whack sex is. because I've had sexual girls after dudes I know like had sex with her like oh yo she crazy I'm like what I'm like well maybe you just had sex with I'm like
Starting point is 01:30:51 well maybe you ain't bring it out of her they do you the way home the way home boy did I love you I almost said something to you just now but I love you too much I said I would never
Starting point is 01:31:02 I would never do that I would never do that I would never do that say it though no I'm not doing that but um bidet guy uh yeah get a new
Starting point is 01:31:10 sex partner there you know You're not going to throw that on his jacket. He's got a bidet. What does that mean? That's the shit that makes him go, ooh. Yeah. He sounds like that Rick and Morty character.
Starting point is 01:31:21 Well, a bidet, if you don't know if it's a bidet and you ever, have you ever heard of, like, women that use vibrators too much, maybe over-stimulate their clip? Yeah. He could be overstimulated from that bedou and just can't. And his assholes. They rub it down. It's like a nail file. He can't get it off unless that bodega goes crazy. Yo, listen, it's been wonderful talking to y'all, man.
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Starting point is 01:31:58 Tickets are available with the tickets. I don't know how your ticket master browser set up, but it's somewhere on the site. You just got to figure it out. It's there. Along with all their fees. Yeah. Along with all of their fees and shit like that.
Starting point is 01:32:11 But yeah, man. We out. Good to be back. It is good to be back. Had a little time off. Had to regroup refresh. I like it. Any wild takes before we head out?
Starting point is 01:32:22 Wild takes. Yeah. Your nipples hard through that shirt. Sorry, one. That was not. That was a wild take. That nipple is not hard, bro. We're not doing that.
Starting point is 01:32:32 I don't care about your nipples. That Kanye doc almost made me forgive him. Oh, my. Oh, wow. You and Adida CEO. So good. He's like, oh, he's so smart. Listen, man, before all, you know, listen, all I got to do.
Starting point is 01:32:45 Listen, all I got to do from all of my predictions is to have like a classic game is Trump gets reelected. Y'all know if Trump gets reelected like this note, y'all not going to ever be able to shut me up. Y'all know that. We can't shut you out. No, but y'all know if. What does it do? Let's do this. If 4-5 becomes 4-7, 4-7?
Starting point is 01:33:04 Yeah, 4-7. Y'all can't. You can't stop me. That's a wild bar. That's a wild bar, right? Listen, man, y'all be safe. Have a great week. We'll talk to y'all soon. Peace. No, worry. American soccer is about to explode. The World Cup is coming.
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