New Rory & MAL - Episode 207 | Is This The Best Drake TimeStamp?

Episode Date: October 6, 2023

Happy Friday to all the dogs. We’ve got limited tour tees available only at our upcoming shows! (Toronto, LA, London, NY) Now back to the 6 God. Drake bestows a timestamp on Charlotte, which sparks a conversation about ranking his timestamp songs. Julian goes full fandom (down to the outfit) and we continue to predict the sound of the album. We pivot to collabs and discuss the alleged shots J. Cole aims at YoungBoy on “The Secret Recipe”. Meek & Rick Ross reunite over “Shaq & Kobe”. Keefe D has officially been arrested for the murder of Tupac. We discuss the implications of this case and how Diddy’s legacy could drastically change. Speaking of legacy, an explicit tape of Sexxy Redd leaks on her IG Story. We discuss how this could be possible. We take a fun music voicemail comparing Britney Spears and Taylor Swift. Tune in as the guys discuss all of this + more! Follow The Team:Rory - https://www.instagram.com/thisisrory/Mal - https://www.instagram.com/mal_bytheway/Eddin - https://www.instagram.com/thankyoueddin/Julian - https://www.instagram.com/julian__nicholas/Demaris - https://www.instagram.com/demarisagiscombe/Merch: https://newrorynmal.com/Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/newrorynmalYouTube Subscribe: https://rb.gy/hk7up Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoicesSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Only cleaning it with the tidesstick. You don't take it off to, like, drink your green juices, though, just in case you spill. You know, leave it on. You got to become, become the merch. I'll come. Live the merch. Why didn't tide sticks, like really take it? They don't work.

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I think everyone should have a tie stick in her purse. That's what you do. Only women? They don't even have. They get to carry a purse around. I hate a lot of stuff. Women don't even have a credit card in their purse. We actually have pocket.

Okay, if I'm paying. Do you want them to have a tied stick? If I'm paying for dinner, give me a tide stick in case I stay my shirt during. My man, why are you coming at DeMaris like that? I'm not coming at DeMaris. I'm just saying women. Damaris doesn't speak for all women.

But in that case, what you said was accurate. She doesn't have a wallet. she does no she doesn't she doesn't know she has a wallet do you have a wallet she doesn't i have not got stolen at biance i have not it was like six months that was okay i haven't replaced and then you realized you didn't need one at least have a tide stick then and we're back we're back we're back welcome to a new episode of maria more look how women could not have a purse for six months and life is just yeah it's cool whatever no purse on the up and up yeah i got my ID that's all i need did you get your ID back no i have a passport so i just use that but i'm

manifesting like money towards me like being that i'm not so quick to pay for things now, like things have been like coming from me. And I feel like the mint. How do you manifest money towards you? Anytime the bill collector comes or I get a late notice, I should tell them to manifest the money. Yeah. I'm not quick to pay the bills that I said.

Close your eyes. Yeah. God will make a way. God will make a way. I'm going to pro rate my next dinner. Yeah. Yeah. Listen.

Listen to it. I manifested this food. You brought it. Manifest the money. Exactly. Rory sent me a DM at like 2.30 in the morning. What the fuck? And I was scared because whenever Roarie.

hits me after like midnight. I'm scared. I don't know why. Yeah. I just get nervous. Somebody died. So I opened my DM and it was a it was a DM of was it was it the Drake's did you did you send me the Drake thing? No, I sent you the amp thing. We'll get to AMP later. But Drake did the scary hours 3 a.m. Let me post something on Instagram and about 15 minutes later. We get 8 a.m. in Charlotte. I know Julian has not slept. I know mall was beside himself even though I'm sure. Moll was in Charlotte when this was recorded, so this wasn't really a shock to him. I think he replied to my DM with, oh, y'allah finally getting that one. I take back everything bad I said about Charlotte. Great city.

That's crazy. Favorite stop on tour last year. Shout to Charlotte, though. Before we get into the record, I do want to give a shout out to Charlotte for making the timestamp list. Right. Congrats, yeah. Charlotte is a great city, but if you go through Toronto, Calabasasas, New York, the bridal path, Dallas. I'm not trying to shit on Charlotte, I promise. It wouldn't be in those major hubs. I didn't think Charlotte was a timestamp.

I didn't, I didn't think Drake would timestamp Charlotte, but obviously just had a showty, I think, two weeks ago. And, you know, since you guys shut down all the clubs out there, he had time to go to the studio. Yeah, like, Drake, you gotta stop. You guys are the reason we got editing. He's following our tour out. Thanks, guys.

It's like, we did Charlotte first. Nobody did Charlotte before we did. I don't think anyone's ever done a show. Yeah, and it's like, here come Drake with 8 a.m. in Charlotte. Now you want to be in Charlotte at 8 o'clock in the morning. I was in Charlotte at 8 a.m. once too. Before Drake. Before Drake. I've been there. Is this like Drake's version of giving out a Michelin Star?

Maybe. Maybe. That's actually... If you blesses your city with a timestamp record, like this has to inflate the economy in Charlotte. I feel like y'all kind of sleeping on Charlotte a little bit. Like, y'all not giving Charlotte is just too. What are we missing out in Charlotte? Charlotte got all the bad, thick-ass, like, traveling nurses. All the real estate.

Yeah, that's not. All the realtor. How many traveling nurses you know in Charlotte? Don't worry about it. And how many of them have wallet? And they all thick. You're throwing it out there. You got traveling nurses. I'm sure they have hospitals. I'm sure they have traveling nurses.

There is a lot of ex-drug dealers from New York that went to North Carolina and South Carolina. How do you know that, in theory? Yeah. We'll get to that as well. Red. In theory, ex-drug dealers make bad daughters. All right. I've never seen a girl that has a drug dealer father, like a real drug dealer, not like some hand-to-hand.

But that had a drug dealer file. that had a drug dealer father. Okay. That isn't gorgeous. Oh, bad in the looks department. Yeah, I thought you meant like, like, not good. But too much, they're pretty. Yes.

Well, I mean, usually when you are a big time drug dealer, you have access to pretty women. Pretty women generally make pretty children. And I'm saying most of the king didn't go to jail, went to the Carolinas and just made beautiful daughters. That became nurses. Okay. We got to study that.

It's big pharma in one big circle. You didn't connect. I did not. Until you said that, I'd never connect. That's the hook version of the Sackler family. And now the sins of their father, they are now trying to save the community. Gotcha. Well, Drake dropped this 8 a.m. Charlotte at fucking 2 a.m.

Let's talk about it. Easton stand at time. I don't know where he was at in the world. Not Charlotte. Why would Drake do this? Why would he drop this record at 2 in the morning or drop this video? The song is not on DSPs yet. Why would he put this video up?

Well, he put a post-up return of scary hours or whatever it said. And remember when he used to do those two packs at like 2 o'clock? And he's alluded that this album is the quote-unquote old Drake and the Drake that people want. Yeah. So he's giving us reminuses of timestamp records, scary hours, dropping just freestyles in the middle of the night. Like this is everything we loved about Drake and wanted from him. He's now giving us and people are still complaining. So Drake gave us, which seems to be what may be either the outro or the intro to his new album, usually when he does it.

just timestamp. It's usually the outro. I don't think this is going to be on the album. My guess is it's not on the album. Okay. Let's go. I don't know if none of these are on the ESPs. None of, no timestamp records are on a Drake album. That's not true. 6 p.m. in New York is. Yeah. Okay. Fine, except that. That was 2015. And 7 a.m. Embrytoffat is on. That's two right there. I mean, I mean, in the regards to the pre-release. And if you count do not disturb, that's on more life. I'm talking about the pre-release records. Like, he doesn't leak them and

then put him on the album. Oh, he's definitely done leaks. I mean leaks. I mean, that don't make the project, all his time stamps for the part. I can't not see this on being on this. I don't think it will be. I think this is on that. I think this is just the way of him. The album comes out.

Obviously, if you're listening to it's not, the album's out, but it comes out tonight's as we're recording Thursday. I think this will, this 8 a.m. and Charlotte will be on out. I agree. Okay, I wouldn't be surprised if it was, but why is it not on DSPs then?

The fact that it's not on DSPs makes me feel like it's not on the album. If it was on DSPs, I'd 100%. I think this is just Drake's, I think this is a new way of, him just rolling out his album. I think he went to put out a little visual for it, maybe 12, 24 hours before the album drops,

just to kind of get the internet, you know, going and buzzing, letting them know that the album's coming. But I do think this will be on the album. I like this, though. I like putting out a visual for your time stamp. Obviously, Drake's knows how people feel about his timestamp songs. Putting a visual to it was definitely dope because, you know, he was saying some things.

He had some bars in there. It's like he's going at a few people. He's letting people know, like, you know. The beef is still on Just because I'm not talking about it Or I'm not addressing it Don't think that it's over But I like this

This was unexpected I didn't expect him to drop this video But let's get to the fact that Conductor The fact that he has Conductor A Conductor Shout out to Conductor Great producer

This gives me hope That we are indeed getting A real full rap Or not He already put a song out That's not rap Okay but I mean, he was rapping on it.

I think a majority of it will be rap, but as Drake said, and I believe him, he'll never put out a full straight rap project. I think it'll just be reminiscent of the older Drake that we liked, and the singing records will be more like Days in the East type shit, and the rapping will be similar to the timestamp stuff. I think he's going to try to give us the best of what I think he kind of tried to do with CLB. He's going to do that in a more concise way.

I don't think this is going to have more than 10 records. 11 records. I don't think it's going to be one of those 18-track Drake Jones. I hope not. Even CLB had records that were like

four or five years old that had like sort of leaked. I think all these records are very, very new. I don't think it's anything he's been sitting on like his previous projects. And I think it's going to be

reminiscent of the Drake we used to like. How do you feel about, how do you feel about the 8 a.m. in Charlotte? Because when I heard it, I was like, okay, this is Drake.

This is a timestamp. This falls right in line with all of the other time stamps. But I'm seeing the internet reaction. to it and some people are saying this is the best one. I don't know if I'm ready to say all of that. I'm not going to say this is

the best time. Has it even been 12-0. That's what I'm saying. I ain't going to say, I'm not going to run and say it's the greatest timestamp. Come on, Julian. Well, I ranked my timestamp records on the way here. Okay, let me shit on it. Go ahead. Okay. Number one, 5 a.m. in Toronto.

Hold. Okay. I have at number one. I don't know if people count Do not disturb because it was originally called 7 a.m. in Germany as a timestamp record. Mm-hmm. Love Germany. So is it an asterisk? Am I allowed to count that one?

I'm asking the audience. I think it's a timestamp. I would count it. Yeah. I know there's a renaming. We'll acknowledge it. Yeah. As such.

Then I have that at number two. Okay. Interesting. Then at number three, I have 4 p.m. in Calabasasas. Mm. Number four, 6 p.m. in New York. Number 5. 9 a.m. in Dallas, 6, 7 a.m. 7.8 a.m.

I have this ranked the last. That's hate. How is it hate? They're all Drake records. I mean, I feel like even a ranking right now. How could you hate when it's all? Yeah, you got to sit with the same art. No record can come and last.

That's not. Well, why I have it ranked this low is because it's only been out for six hours. Exactly. And I wasn't so blown away that I was like, this has to be somewhere better. See that? I'm not going to lie, though. He has a bar on this record where I heard that bar and I kind of looked at the phone. Like, I don't think Drake is slowing down any time soon.

What did he say? the silence in the lamb part he was rapping on that was silence and lamb like the horror flick is that what he said yeah I thought that bar was crazy that was hard I mean

that was hard for me that was one of those bars where I was like you know everybody listens to shit differently but to hear Drake at this point in his career you know all he has going on right now

still on tour take time to shoot this visual take time to obviously record and still be able to talk slick and have certain bars like that at this point in his career is very impressive. What do you think he was talking to in the last verse? And was it one person?

No, it wasn't just one person. But you don't think it was in general. Like all rappers. It was a specific... It was maybe three or four people. Can you tell me who you thought those three or four people, maybe? And which bars were specifically for them? Obviously, he's still talking to Pusher.

Kanye. I heard way more Yee in this. I think the grudge line was for Ye and Pusher, but I think, you know, your friends deserting you. I got you on camera bowing down. The footage is safe. I don't know if that's Jay. I doubt there's a clip of Pursher.

Bowing down. Bowing down to Drake. But we've seen Kanye a few times say how much he reveres Drake. So that's where I was also confused. I was like, there's plenty of clips of Kanye saying Drake is the fucking best. Yeah. So that's not something you have to hide. That one threw me off a little bit.

Kendrick? I don't... Remember they met for lunch in Toronto and Kendrick was annoyed? Did he film the lunch? Yeah. You know on the second half of Marvin's room when Kendrick gets on his alien?

Filming lunch is crazy. Yo, somebody started recording. You guys filmed the lunch with logic. That was dinner. And he gave you a ring. Whoa, whoa, whoa. That is true. Yeah, but it wasn't...

And the waves are crashing. That's a different type of... Adam Sandler was there. All that was missing was Elia. Yeah. Don't say that again. No, never. Yo, he merks the impression.

He wants to be like, he wants to be an alien so bad. That's how Kendrick talked on that song. He wanted to be, Kendrick wanted to be alien so bad. What if he is an alien? No, what if Kendrick is really an alien?

Like, you never just thought about that. What if he's, Nah, I'd never cross my mind. He dances, like one. Just saying, what if he... I've never seen him dance. You've seen Kendrick dance. No, when he does that little March step shit on stage.

That's alien? I don't know what you just did, but don't do that. No, ever do that again. And I wish you would have done that when 19 Keyes was here. What? your impression of that much. You don't want me to

there's so much I didn't say when he was here. Here we go. Yeah, I bet. Can I talk about... Anyway. Can I talk about...

Who do we think? Julian's shirt is almost half a hell. Julianne just really wants to ride this record. We get it. I would like to talk about who he's talking about on this though.

We get it. It's the greatest song you've ever read you like. Let me just say a quick thing. Let me glaze real quick. And before I do this... You said let you what real quick? Glaze. Oh my God.

Before I do this. I got news for you. Yeah. Here we are. Oh, what the fuck? Oh my God, you motherfucker. You too motherfucker. We're wearing a drake shirt that shows your nipples

might be the craziest thing about this. This is wild. They're not. It's an angle. Did you cut it that way? So I bought this when I went to. I don't know what would be worse. You buying a cut like that or you cutting a drink shirt?

Really quick. Before anything, anyone who's just listening, Julian has a sleeveless six-god shirt on. I'm religious. It's past sleeveless though. It's like one of those that cuts back. It's armless. Yeah, because you got to work out in it,

so you need like to be mobile. You work out in that? What do you think I fucking? Yeah, what do you think I do with this? You just put your makeup on with the six. No, so I got this at the What a Time show. You know you've reached like your highest workout once like they really start sweating around this. You ever been in a blue oyster?

I don't know what the blue oyster is. You look like you bartending at the blue oyster. But I'll take that as a compliment. Sure. Six am a blue oyster. So, okay. So the way Drake wraps in my mind, it's the way, and I was thinking about this this morning in the sauna. No, no, no, no, no, no, no.

Time out. All right. Time out. No, just shut up. All right. The fact that he has a record with Conductor, back to that, because to me, that was the biggest surprise. Like the 8 a.m. the timestamp record is not a surprise.

The fact that Drake linked with Conductor, who is known for his, you know, the boom bat beats, it's like that to me is why I said, okay, Drake is really going to approach his album. This is rap. This is hip-hop because I never expected to hear Drake on the conductor. But I love that for conductor. Shout out to him.

That's a great look. And shout out to Drake for just, you know, tapping in with the guys that can deliver that type of sound form. But I'm not blown away by 8 a.m. in Charlotte. Are you putting it last in the list hypothetically, even though it's been less than a lot? I would have to sit and listen to all the time stamps to really like, you know what I mean, kind of put them in the order. But this one is good. He's rapping. He's talking slick.

You know, again, it's impressive for Drake to still be in this type of his own. But I'm not as crazy as up in arm. as the internet seems to be about it. But he is getting his shit off on here, though. So why do you guys think he didn't put it on DSPs? Because I don't think it's part of the album. I think it's the rollout. And it was cool like when Drake used to just put certain records just on SoundCloud.

They weren't on DSPs. Even when DSPs was around. Like I said, everything in his rollout, I think he's trying to do quote unquote old Drake stuff that we used to like. Yeah. So that's why I think it is. It could be on DSPs with the album. But you don't have any opinion of my list at least.

I'm not mad at it. I don't think there's a right or wrong way to do this. I think there is. No, there's definitely right or wrong way. All of these songs, all of these time stamps, again, we've said it before. I feel like you take these six timestamps songs and take this to a versus. I think anybody has a hard time. I think I could put 7 a.m. on bridal path above 9 a.m. in Dallas,

but because 9 a.m. and Dallas has, like, nostalgic purposes. That's why I have it at 5. I'm surprised you have 9 a.m. in Dallas 4th. I thought that would be higher. technically it's fifth. Five in Toronto is insane. And then 4 p.m. in Calabas, 6 p.m. in New York are like undeniable. To me, those are, if you don't count, do not disturb.

Those are the first three. I don't care what order you put those three in. Those are the three best by far. Fuck the order. What would you have put number one, Mo? 4 p.m. in Calabasas is tough. Some of his best rapping ever. Yeah.

But that moment when 5 a.m. in Toronto came out, I think, was the exact moment where, like, Drake became Drake. that free strike everything changed he was pure dominance at that point he was already number one and there was other debates he made a clear separation from people when that video dropped i think for me what's the song he got with janei uh from time time yeah that record when that record came out i think that's when everybody started looking at drake like all right this dude is this dude is serious um And before we get off this, I do have somewhat of a theory on the last verse. We keep talking about Kendrick, Pusher, Yay, whatever.

I thought maybe at the, I got you on camera bowing down, but the footage is safe as to a girl. Maybe we're viewing this drastically different. And it's not to any of these rappers. This is about a girl that's maybe trying to expose him or something. And he's just taking a shot there. I have you on camera bowing down. You got the music. And you know what that can mean?

There's no way. Then how come at the end of it said, steady crying to my daddy? What rapper went to Drake's dad? This is what I'm saying. I could see a girl going to Drake's dad. Oh, well, obviously. That's why I think there's a case that maybe the last part of this record is not about yay pusher.

Anyway, it's just about a girl. Or he could be lying. Drake doesn't lie. Why he lies about his abs. I don't ever want to listen to a rapper that doesn't lie. But yeah, but you have to lie. Just lie. Just fine. What's an honest rapper?

So you think that he's lying about having somebody bow now? I don't think that he's lying, but I think there's a strong possibility that he could be. I don't think every... Might be exaggerating. Yeah. No, he could just be lying. Like, he's a rapper. You don't think there's rappers that bowed down to him?

I'm sure there are. Yeah, but every artist embellishes, that's the whole... That's what they do. Yeah, that's what they're trying to figure out that, oh, who could it be. It could be a... I think him dedicating bars on it. on a conductor beat so a girl bowed down. That's very Drake.

Is that not Drake? He did it with a Just Blade, one of the best Just Blaze beats ever. He went through her purse when she went to the bathroom. Well, that was sick. But either way, the album is out now. What are your predictions on it? Like, we will rank amongst the rest of the year. I just want to hear Julian.

I just want to hear Julian Glaze over it real quick. No, I was really going to make a good point. I think we are in a space where, and it's very particular to Drake, where the way in which we saw Kobe shoot a fade away, Tiger Woods swing a golf club, like Aaron Judge hit a home run. There's pros. And then there's a step of excellence

that so few people achieve consistently across their career. Where it's like Kobe never took a game off. He was always going to put up 30 plus, whatever the case may be. Drake, people, the few people that I've seen talking about this record, not negatively, but, you know, critiquing it. his autopilot is at a level that so few people achieve ever in their career. And I think Drake is functioning at such a higher level artistically and where we can see that

in glimpses with other artists. Like you can name an artist that we love other greats, but they have that one song that stands out. They have that one moment that reigns supreme. We can't pinpoint that with Drake because all of it, his caliber is just there. He is that bar. So we always talk about Kobe, the mama mentality. I think what Drake has done in hip hop is the equivalent of that to his craft.

I think it's so underestimated and underrated because we've been spoiled in hip hop. We went from Jay and then that kind of trickled into the that now this Drake era where hip hop is so young and we've been so fortunate to see such good, good artists, good MCs just rise to the top. This isn't normal. I don't think something like this is normal and I really think people hate it because he makes it look easy but that's what greatness is. I went into Yankee Stadium and said I could probably hit a home run here because I'm watching these guys in batting practice swing that shit

like it's a toothpick and they're cranking the fence. Like it's you're looking at a level of greatness that's so effortless to them that you think you can do it. This shit's so fucking difficult to do and he's been doing it for 15 years. That's all I had to say. So you call him? He's up there. Yes, he's in a class of his own.

I really don't think it's fair to compare him to anyone of his peers because we joke about what's Kendrick's Drake can sing and fucking make you cry and you can sleep to an R&B record. Kendrick's alter ego is an alien voice that we all make fun of. Don't hate on Kendra. Come on. In retrospect. Yeah, I've cried to a Drake record.

Yeah, which record? Jungle. That is a fire ass record. Stop. What was her name? No, my mom and I, my mom is a huge Drake fan. She's from the Ludlow. We've played.

Fuck you guys. Take someone else's Uber. All right. Who's the cool to cry to? You got their undercover. Song cry. That's the one that gets you guys there. I've never cried to a Jay Z record or.

So Julia just sat here and just basically explained that Drake is a goat. Like we know that. Yeah. More than he's okay. Yeah. Yes. But like with good reasoning, I think we're so spoiled because he's so good at this that he makes it look easy that we undervalue how good he actually is. That's what I'm arguing.

That happens with everyone. Everyone knows he's good. We're not arguing whether or not he's good. But as I'm saying, we look for the flaws. They do that with Will Smith in his acting career. I'm like, he's still Will fucking Smith. I think that's different. No, it's not.

People shit on the greats. Yeah. It just eventually happens. I think it's just, I understand what Julian is saying. It still amazes me that a lot of people still really don't either one like Drake. The doubt. Or just, I don't even know if it's, you can't doubt, you can't doubt an artist like this. You're just trying to look at an argument if you're doing that.

There's no. doubting that he's corny. Because you can't say anything about his music. So now we just come out the character of the person. 97% of these rappers are corny. You could say that he's corny. That's true. Yeah.

But now we're in a phase, especially in hip hop. Well, I guess just in celebrity in general. If the person is to this level, you can no longer attack their craft. You attack their personal choices and the qualities and their personality traits. Drake's corny. He doesn't know how to dress. So fucking what? You put out some of the best music you've ever heard.

Shut up. But a lot of people, and this kind of ties into the Charlemagne conversation we were having about Drake, a lot of people committed to hating him in the beginning to the point that they could never even give the great music a chance. Like there's plenty of people that I think hated Drake the moment he came out and maybe listen to thank me later, committed to the hate train and haven't even really given, if you're reading this is too late, a try when they would like it. They've just committed to hating him. Yeah. That's sad. That's plenty of people. That's sad.

Now, which I always find weird with music. It's always going to happen. With athletics, I get it. There's teams and shit. But music, like, you're just depriving yourself of music. There's no ring at the end of the season. Like, there's artists that I dislike, but if I do see a lot of people that I respect their music opinion, I will go give it a try. Like, why would I deprive?

I don't hate these people as people. Yeah. I don't deprive myself of a good album. I think that at this point, what Drake has done in his career and what he's still doing is we've never seen anything like this. as far as from just rap, a rapper. Because he is, you know, even though he's a, he's bigger than rap, he's a complete artist. But just from a rapper standpoint, I don't think we've seen a run like this. I don't think we've seen consistency like this.

I don't think we've seen, you know, somebody that just demands all the attention as soon as he puts anything out as much as Drake has done throughout his career. So that's something alone to salute and just applaud. We've never seen a superstar put out there. this amount of music at this point in their career. No. And the ones that we have seen, this isn't like an M slight or anything, we've just seen declines.

It's a huge, and the more consistent they are, it's just. It's a huge decline in performance. It's a huge decline. It's a huge decline. Even Hove had some projects that I was like, all right, this is. You saw it taper off a little bit. I mean, obviously, when a Jay-Z still drops, it still demands a certain presence. It's a certain amount of attention that people pay attention to because,

it's one of the greatest to ever do it. Nas went through it too. Yeah, but... Big decline and then came back. But Drake is, you know, this is beyond impressive. This is absolutely just, you know, amazing to watch. And again, just to see him still be able to perform and write at such a high level. And the fact that Drake went through that whole thing of having a ghost ride at, most rappers

wouldn't have been able to bounce back from a situation like that. That was the best thing that could have... He came back better. That was something like that right there is. something that's like in hip hop because you know, rappers are held to like, yo, if you didn't write that, that's like the biggest, that's almost like in parallel to like being a snitch in the streets.

It's like you can't come back from that. You can't get that off of your name as a rapper. Like you don't write your own shit. So for him to walk through that the way he did and to be in the land where he is today and still demand the attention that he gets and people pay attention to the bars, that just speaks to, you know,

just the type of artist that he is. Like people don't even pay attention to that shit. Yeah. Best thing that could have ever happened to him because no one likes just an upward success story is only cool in the beginning. Then people start to age you. There needs to be a story.

There needs to be a fall. There needs to be up and down. He needs to be an underdog again. He needs to prove things again. And shout out to Meek Mills' Twitter fingers. Like it may have looked weird at the time, but I don't think there could have been a better thing to happen to Drake during that time.

And before we close, I just want to tell Drake, please give Oliver North like some vacation. vacation time. Every verse, Oliver is just working his house somewhere. Just everywhere. Yeah. Like Oliver, come on, take a vacation day. He's working, but I'm sure he's having fun out there on the road. All Drake's other friends, he says all this amazing stuff that they're doing in Turks with women, bottles, money. Oliver North is just locked in at work every day in the office. No, that's what you got to tell. He's working. He's having a fucking great time in Italy somewhere, man. He's not just working.

Yeah. But how do we feel about, because Yadi and Jake Cole released a record and the internet was going crazy a few days ago to the Jake Colverse. And now, days later, Drake drops 8 a.m. in Charlotte. And, you know, you see people talking or Drake's shitting on Cole. Nobody's even told me out this cold verse now that this 8 a.m. in Charlotte is out. It's only been a week. Do we feel like there may be some, because obviously Cole is.

and Drake are cool. They always show each other, you know, supreme love on stage, nothing but admiration for each other. But Jay Coe has to be feeling some type of way. Why? Yaddy has been very vocal that he's going to put out a song per week or a couple songs from month. I forgot what he said the schedule would be. But this is just part of the Lucy's that Yaddy's been promising. And everyone knows Drake was already doing this rollout. And I'm sure Yaddy reached out to Cole in their relationship and Cole said, yeah, I'll give you a verse. Because Cole's active now, too. the Gucci Man thing, he's already been talking about the falloff. Like, everyone I think is actually really working right now

and is locked in at the same time. This fourth quarter is going to be interesting. And listen, say what you will about Yadi's music. I'm not here to talk about that. He's had one of the best years in hip-hop. He had a solid album. He's been putting out a ton of music. He's putting out content.

He's putting out visuals. Like, Yadi had a really active year, and I just want to give him his flowers. And I like the song, even though, You know, the pitch was a little, threw me off a bit. I don't hate Yadi's verse. Just like, you know, use your voice. What do you mean? The honor tune.

Like the warmth? The warmth, yes. No, he just put a filter on his voice that he doesn't usually use. And he wasn't rapping too bad for Yadi standards. But what did you think of Cole's verse? What did you think about the activist line? How does the line go again? Fake, progressive and woke.

I started saying less I had to stop, peeped how they profit or of racial stress. Some activists got so rich they probably wish we'd stay oppressed. I mean, he throwing shots at every, like, activists on social media at that point? Yeah. Because we do know that that whole activist thing now is money, it's a big money behind that. It was before. But, you know, a lot of people didn't know that. Now I think it's a, it's, we see it.

You can see like, oh, okay, we get it. This is money behind this, it's funding. It's, you know, tax, right, offices, all of these things behind that. And, you know, Jay Cole is one of those people that are very aware of what's going on. He's a highly intelligent dude. He's paying attention to all of the shit. And he's using his voice and his platform to address certain things. He's not big on social media.

He doesn't do, you know, quotes and quote tweets and all this other shit. So this is his way of just letting people know, like, yeah, paying attention to all the shit that's going on. This is what I think. But I just think that Jay Cole, where he's at right now, I know him and Drake will never go back and forth, but I want to see it. No. I think him and No name may go back and forth again. Please know.

I don't think no name is fake, progressive, and woke, and is even profiting off oppression at all. But they had their back and forth, and I could see why a lot of people thought this may be a shot at No Name. Though I just think it's a general statement for so many people after the last few years that we've had. And I was even, I was talking with Fonte,

and he had something similar to say, he said, everyone's professional panelists now, And if we fix what we're paneling about, we can't panel anymore. Right. We're not going to try to fix anything. Right. How could we panel?

And yeah, that's what the shit is. It's more profitable if nothing changes because we can continue to talk about how we need to change things and get paid for it. So now the part about or the line is he facetime to ask for a feature and sort of face of death. I'm on your song. Your stream's going up. Not quite the Drake effect. Do we feel like that was a bar directed to Young Boyer? I know Cole spoke about it

and the next day after the verse came out said it wasn't. But I find it hard. Who else? Because we know that NBA young boy says Jayahoe, that nigga played at Cole like he was going to do a feature so I text his line of muscle sign.

I swear it's going to be nice to meet you. It probably was. I think it was. Is the story actually true that Cole was waiting for eight hours for a young boy and he never showed up when Cole was supposed to do a feature for him? I don't know how to do that.

Why could young boy even be mad at Cole? Cole should be the one that's hot. Absolutely. But I don't know if Jay Cole is waiting eight hours anywhere for anybody. I think after hour, too, Jay Cole was like, listen, man, call me if he show up, I'm out. Or there was a case where he was already in the studio for eight hours that day and told Young Boy to pull up that day. Because he does, he books sessions like that. He'll be there all day.

Young boy can't pull up to, young boy can't even leave the state he's in. This could happen prior to, when did a young boy get on house arrest? It's been a while. theoretically, say this happened before that. Well, I can see that. Utah, Utah. Utah. Utah.

He's in Utah. So we, well, no, one, all right. Didn't I get it, young boy? Why would Cole be upset? How the fuck could I pull up? It's going to take me more than eight hours to get at Utah. But that's what I'm saying. If this was before the house arrest thing, then, you know.

I'm sure it was. Unless Cole was in Utah. No. It's just getting a session, man. He wasn't in it. Well, maybe for All Star weekend, it was just there. Last year. Actually not mad at that thing.

Last year. That lines up. Maybe. Yeah, I can see that actually. Maybe that's when it happened. Well, I do think that is about young boy. And I think the line after that, I don't think it's a shot of, Dirk. I think it's just a general statement that when he gets on your song,

the streams go up crazy. I mean, it did. Just not the way they do with Drake. Not quite the Drake effect. But yeah, I don't know, man. I think it's some great music coming out fourth quarter. I'm looking forward to this. Oh, yeah.

But then don't complain, bitch. Take what you get, cut the label check. Wasn't there a young boy Drake situation because of someone J. Prince that Drake could not? do the young boy feature that young boy wanted. So Cole is saying, stop complaining. Like, you're getting me. I know you wanted Drake, but you got me now.

Not quite the Drake effect. I'm on your song, your stream's going up. Not quite the Drake effect. But don't complain, bitch. Take what you get and cut the label. Calling him bitches hilarious. Well, I mean, a young boy called him pussy. Like, it's a fair.

At that point, we just exchanging blows now. But no, I believe there was, there was some discrepancies with young boy and Drake and Drake not being able to do anything with young boy because of some affiliation of Drake's. Well, back to a feature and collab that we've seen a lot that I was happy to see happen again. Shaq and Kobe heard the record, not exactly this record, but we've heard this energy from these two before.

We've heard this type of song before. So I'm not mad at it. It falls right in line with a bunch of the other songs they did. But I am happy that Ross and Meek are in the studio. They do have an album coming because they do compliment each other well. They sound great together. I think that Meek should have Ross executive produce his next album. I'm sure he probably went to Ross to do that.

And Ross said, let's just do a joint project. I can see a world where that happens. The record's cool. I don't. It's cool. We've heard it. It's a record that with the sound, the energy, it's very familiar. It's MMG.

It's classic Ross and Meek. But I'm just glad to see that they're working together because it was a time where it was like, you know, it may have been some little tension between them. And, you know, they looked like they weren't working together as much as they used to. So to see them back together, to see them shoot the video, to know that they did a press run, they was here in New York with Flex. To see that they are, you know, actively back in the studio and putting out a project, I'm fucking with it because they make some of the best music in both for their careers when they work together. I'm excited for it, but I think there is a ceiling,

and it's not a bad ceiling, but a ceiling of what these two can do as far as making music together. I'm going to enjoy it, but I pretty much know exactly what it's going to sound like, and I like that sound. Yeah. But I don't think it's going to be, anything groundbreaking. It's going to be what we like. There's nothing wrong with that. No, it's like going to your favorite restaurant. You know what you want to order. You don't need to see the menu. You know what I mean? It's just like, that's where Meek and Ross are right now. Like, it's just consistency together. They just make good fucking music, good quality music, and they compliment each other well. I hope they just don't overly like, not lack of a better term,

young boy, not that artist, but just put a bunch of young rappers on it. I just hope they don't do that. As far as features? Both of them fuck with the young. guys and I just hope that they give us the project we want from Ross. No, no, no, no. I don't need a million auto tune rap from a bunch of people. I just want meek. I just want meek. Throw whilee somewhere in the mix.

If it's Shaq and Kobe, let it be Shaq and Kobe. Don't give me Derek Fisher. I love it. Hey, he hit that big shot. No, he did, but don't. If it's Shaq and Cobb, let's run this fucking pick and roll all fucking night. Because gunplay is Robert Ory. He's the one shot we need.

No, no. I love a gun play. Big shot Bob. But if it's Shaq and Kobe, Like, let us get this. Like, don't give us too many features. I don't want to hear anybody else try to jump in this sound. And it's like, what Ross and Meek do, let them do that by themselves.

That's a big reputation to hold up. What do you mean? I'm the Shaq and Kobe. Who's the Shaq and who's the Kobe of that duo? Shack is definitely Ross. I mean, come on. Shaq is obviously. We're talking about size?

Yeah. Pause. I mean, not only just size, just, you know, presence, energy. You know what I mean? But they were calling Meek Mill, Kobe. Kobe. Which is kind of crazy. I mean, listen, in the terms, in the, in the,

I don't want to be the one to say it. But that's what I'm saying. But that's what I'm saying. Like, not a bad combo. John StarCat. Both are all stars. John Stockton. I was that offensive.

Yeah, but Celtic Shack. I feel like that's more like Ben Starson and Ewing. That's more like Embed and Simmons. Wow. Now you being, now you're being disrespectful. How? See, now, now there's a clip going around to Ben Simmons. Maybe with the Ben Simmons, maybe, but that's still Philly.

Now when me can. catch you DJing somewhere and slap the gorilla glue out of the head. He's never going to catch me. Then you're going to be texting out line like, hey guys, you guys know me can you call him and tell him to stop him? Yeah, he's going to slap the gorilla glue out his hair. Like, how are you going to call meek

him, a Joel, what's the name? Ben Simmons. I'm going to knock the dreams out your head. Yeah, like. And nightmares. All nightmares. Yeah. I ain't called meek, no Ben Simmons, man. But no, I do.

I am happy that they are back together. in the studio and putting this shit out though. So what's your favorite collab from them? Obviously it's not this. Record? Man, I would have to pull up the records they got together. But they just have, they just compliment each other, man. They work well together.

Certain artists that just sound great together and that just, you know, work well. And Ross and Meek is just, that's just what it is. And this is good for both of them. They both need this right now. They both need this energy. It was dope to see them at Fleck. They didn't freestyle at Flexo, did they? Not that I saw.

That would have been, you know, that would have been dope to see Roeck. freestyle and at flex but the album is coming I don't know when it's dropping but fourth quarter for sure this fourth quarter is going to be dope there's a lot of artists coming out this fourth quarter and say what you want about meek but he's very good at ending beefs he makes good with a lot of people that were once because you know why because meek has been in real beefs he's from the streets he know what real beef is like this rap shit this is not this is not you know we're here to make money we're to entertain we here to you know live life have fun this is not you can't bring that shit even though

What happens, unfortunately, we see it. But Meek has been in real beefs. This rap beef shit, a lot of the times, it's just ego, miscommunication. I thought that bar was about me. Sleeping with the same women, that's a big part of having issues with each other as far as, well, I don't understand why they would. But, yeah, that's a big part of it. I think Ross and Meeks was more on the business side with.

It was the business. No, no, no. A lot of stuff I think was out of Ross's hands that Meek just didn't understand. Ross and Meek didn't have beef. Like P.S agreements. Yeah, they had this. Ross is not going to beef with Meek. Like, he's not, he's not going to do that.

Does Meek get a one-up on Drake here? How? Yeah, where? Drake has been talking about a joint Ross album for over a decade. Ross has been saying the same thing. Yeah, that's the collab. That's a collab, yeah. That'd be great, but like, that'd be cool if Drake was a feature on one of these records.

He might be. I could see that. I could definitely say. They'd, Drake and Ross have some great, great. Some of the best collabed of them. I think it was in the back of Meeks, mine. I think they get. along but of course there's probably still some spike you thought he was just trying to jump in

rapper brain i think drake probably still feels the same way towards meek in that regard yeah well what was the last i got my ross joint album before you and that was supposed to be your shit no i think drake meek song uh drake meke the the going bad going bad that was the last one oh wow probably yeah and then the last drake ross was that uh was it gold roses or was the lemon pepper lemon pepper lemon pepper was after that yeah they've all their records together no ross and drake do not fucking miss at all. Well, speaking of actual beef and not rap beef, beef that

had a rapper involved in it, but this is what real beef looks like. I owe you flowers, Rory. See the difference to me and you? I'll tell you when I owe you five. The past three episodes I've given you flowers every single time. But I had to ask for flowers, though. It's like when the girl asked for you to take her to dinner. Like, I had to bring it up. That's true, Rory. You do be

like that. You know what I'm saying? So it's like, now I'm going to give you your flowers. He does want us to read it. Your deforestation over there. You burn all of them all. Because I have. You know, we record these things, right? Like, we can go back and I was saying, Maul, I'm here to give you flowers. No, listen, listen.

But the flowers, speaking from a girl's per second, the flowers don't mean the same if I have to ask you to buy me flowers. I'm saying that I was not asked. There maybe have been a few times I've been asked, but I took heed to that. Ball asked the moment. I'm giving you your flowers because maybe a week or two ago you did bring up,

do I think Keefe D would be arrested for this Tupac thing? And I was like, you know, they searched his house for bullets and all of that shit a few weeks ago. And I was like, listen, if they didn't lock him up yet, I don't see it ever happening. And here we are two weeks later. And Keefe D. has been arrested in the Tupac murder case.

Yes. It was not Keefei D's confession. It was behind a pay. It wasn't. After the cops raided the cops. You are glad. You're big Vlad. We think he'll get arrested.

And I don't even, these are like fake flowers because I didn't think it was that crazy. With a prediction a few weeks ago that. No, I wasn't. He couldn't even accept the flowers. It wasn't. Because I want real flowers. This is like, this was easy to call. This was like edible arrangements.

Well, no, I will say this. When they searched his home and they didn't lock him up that day, I didn't think anything else would come of it. I didn't think they found anything. So obviously, why would he be arrested? But here we are today. And he is indeed arrested in the Tupac murder case. I'm sure most people know Keefe Dewey D.

Dwayne Davis was charged with murder for the murder of Tupac. He went to court two days ago, said he needs two more weeks for his lawyer to get to Nevada, and then they can go on with the case if he's going to plead guilty or not guilty. I assume he's going to plead not guilty. But I think this case could go in a million different ways. You know, the thing about situations like this, Rory, you know, when you want answers and you want, you know, clarity on certain situations and things, you got to be careful when you ask for that because you uncover a lot of things

that can really, really, like, fuck you up. Like, now with this case, we're going to hear some things, you know, things are going to be brought to trial that might have us looking at people very different. Now, I'm a little older than y'all. Little. So, you know, this Tupac case, to me, I grew up with this case.

Like, I was young when it happened. I was probably a freshman in high school when all of this happened. Damn. Damn. God, damn. So now, for it to be where it's at today, you know, it's like, okay, you're hearing things online. You're hearing things on the Internet.

People that may be involved, people that may be behind certain things. Now, you know, for Tupac and his family, you want justice and you want the case to be solved. But now it's somebody that, you know, grew up a fan of the culture. And, again, you know, can remember exactly when this happened. You're going to start finding out things and getting information on things that's going to kind of like you know, like, oh shit. Like, I didn't even know that this person was in Vegas when that happened or this person was a part of it or this person was behind this.

So it's a very interesting time in hip hop. It's a very interesting time for anybody that, you know, is involved in this situation because, again, a lot of things are going to be uncovered and exposed about this case that I'm not sure too many people are really ready to hear. I think whatever the discovery is going to be, because as we know, the confession he did with Greg Kating cannot be used because I believe it was illegally recorded. So they don't have much outside of what we know,

which was on Vlad's channel, The Art of Dialogue, Cam Capone, all the people that have been covering this for years and years and years. I want to know what the discovery is because I think they'll give Keefe D a plea deal. And if they don't, it's because they're trying to get somebody else

that's not Keefe D and it's Diddy. If they don't offer Kifida pleadio, I think it's because they want Puff. Yeah, but I understand that. They want to close this. Yeah, no, they want to close it. That's been a name that's been thrown around in this and having some involvement. But I'm going to be honest. I don't think that's, I think that's more so just talk than it is facts.

I don't think that. It's very tough to prove. Yeah. And even Kivis himself said that under oath that he never got the money. Yeah. It was just said in like a meeting as just people talk. But even if, even if, even if that's the case, though, people are going to start looking at Puff differently. Do you remember years and years ago, whenever Vlad first interviewed Kee-D, I'd sit on the old pod, I came in, one clip it came out, and I said, I think Puff is going to get Vlad killed.

I was just saying it in just because I thought it was about to bring a lot of fucking attention to Puff, whether anyone gets arrested or not, having this guy, because I had heard the confession, you know, years ago. I'm like if he gets on Vlad's channel, even though he had done interviews just on lower YouTube channels with Vlad and he starts talking about Puff, Puff is going to feel it. Even if it's not criminal, he's going to feel it. Now, let me ask you something. Do you think that if Puff is named as the person who ordered this hit, pay for this hit, whatever you want to call it, what do you think that does for Puff's legacy? And do you think that anybody cares. I don't think it changes Puff's legacy much at all, to be honest with you.

I think what... Really? I disagree. Like, how do you... How do you feel like that doesn't... We're saying if he's not arrested, correct? And we don't know... That's another... Even if he's not arrested. Even if he's not arrested. KVD is not a viable witness. Like, that's why this trial is going to be really hard. He's changed his story in a bunch of different interviews. His book does not match. His confession. Everything's

fucked up, so he's not really a viable witness. That's That's why I know Puff is going to be fucking fine. But so let's speak as if Pup will never be arrested, never indicted, never even really investigated. No, but it comes out in court. Even if he's named as having something to do with it. I'm saying it. Let's say KVD takes the stand or they take a plea and that paperwork comes out eventually

of what he said during his confession in a plea deal again. And Puff's name comes up. No. I don't. What would change? I think a lot changes. I think a lot of people look at Puff totally different because it's like all these years, you know, everybody, this is.

one of the biggest stories in hip hop history. Puff big, you know, getting killed in Vegas, getting killed in L.A. Like, who did it? It's a thousand documentaries on this shit. It's a lifetime movies on this. This shit has been everywhere. This is, if you grew up in hip hop, you know about this Puff and Puck and big shit. Like, you know about this shit.

So for now, for Puff to be named years later as somebody that may have had a hand in this shit, that changes a lot for people for how they look at Puff. It's fucked up because it's, however, 20-something years later. But still, it's like all of these years, you knew you was directly involved in this. Okay, but how would you say, how would you say about executives? And this is, I'm talking about things that have been documented, like stuff involving babies past with his family. Stuff with Jay Prince, Shug as well, separately. Do we look at their legacies drastically different because they were involved in probably some unnecessary crime?

I think people look at Shug differently. What type of crimes, though? Because if you're equating those crimes to the death of Pock, those are two different ballpark. It's two different things. I think there's been execs that have been tied. I'm just saying tied just by word of mouth, tied to other rappers murders.

Puff being a young kid in that situation where people had already died and he was at risk. Everyone was at risk. I can see a 20-something year old with money whose friend just murdered somebody else and they're after him to say yes to that. I don't think it's that crazy.

I don't disagree with you. Because we don't think Puff is a street guy. I don't think Puff would even say he's a street guy. But if your back is to the wall and you've now been put in a situation where people on both sides have already died and you know that they're already after you as well. You have to get security every single time

you go to the West Coast. That's a huge market for you. You'll never not have to go there for your career. Yeah, I might ask someone to protect me the same way they're doing it to him. Do you think there was not the same on the other side? No, no, but what I'm saying is this, Rory, Puff being who he is in our culture, Pock being who he is in our culture, people having the revere that they have for Pock, the love that

they have for Pock years later, for it to come out that Puff had something to do with Pock getting killed, that changes a lot in our culture. That changes a lot in the history of our culture. that changes a lot in the way we look at people on our culture. Has that not been the stigma? How would I look at Puff? Yeah. I was going to say that's not a new stigma. If this was like, I'm telling you.

No, no, no, no. That was just like. If Puff had nothing, if we never heard Puff's name involved in this ever and there was no like real crazy bad boy versus death row thing. And then in the discovery 20, 30 years later, Kee Fee D was like, yo, Puff Daddy hired me. Yes, that would be fucking crazy. But this has been a stigma for quite some time. But that's what I'm asking you.

I'm saying if Keefe D in court. lays it out and says basically like Puff was the one that pushed this button and sent this. That changes everything for the way people look at Puff. He did under oath to a police officer for a proffer agreement. He did it already. Yeah, no, no, no, but that's... It's the same as court. It just can't be used because they did illegally.

But this is what I'm saying. That's different. Now we're talking about this is going to trial. This is an indictment. This is ready to go to trial. If Kee-Feedee D stands on trial and tells jurors in the courts that, yeah, Puff is the one that was behind this shit. that fucking changes.

I don't know what I believe in this culture anymore if that happens. How would that change your perception of puff? What do you mean? How does that change my perception? You can't, you had a direct role in something that completely shifted and changed the entire culture and landscape of hip-hop.

With that being said, how would you view puff? That's fucked up. All these years, like it was you behind this shit and you never like, we never knew? You just walking around in these rooms acting like, yeah, you're this guy. Now it was love and all these other things. Like, bro, you single-handedly had a hand in something that could have caused a lot of deaths on both sides of the culture. But here's where I would give Puff bail.

That, based off what we know, was going to happen whether or not Puff was alive or not. What do you mean? What was going to happen? That shooting was going to take place whether Puff Daddy exists on this earth or not. No, we don't do it. You can't say that. You can't say that. You can't say that. Listen, I'm just a civilian.

I'm going off the documents of the people that were involved in it and what they have said happened. Like, it was going to happen. There was something at a mall with a death row chain getting taken by Orlando Anderson. When they went to Vegas, they saw Orlando Anderson, said, that's the guy that stole my chain. So the rival gang and Tupac went over there and jumped him.

You don't think those guys that are already killers and have beef with you are not going to come back and shoot you? But see, it's different. You could take Puff off the planet. That's still happening. Yeah, but sure. If Tupac punches Orlando, Puff Daddy is not the deciding fact.

Back to Moll's point, which is like, if Puff is over here promoting peace and shit like that, but you were the one that sent out the hit, that's different. Regardless if the hit was going to happen or not. I mean, how many people on Earth have been involved in murders, crime, everything, and now practice peace.

Convert to Islam. Yeah, but that's actually a very normal thing. No, no, no, no, no. But yeah, but we're talking about somebody that is one of the biggest hip-hop moguls in the world. Great marketer, too, by the way. This is totally different. I'm not saying this doesn't happen.

I'm not saying this. I'm not saying this. I'm not saying this does not happen. I'm saying when you have one of the biggest figures in hip-hop history, be a piece of it. That's a part of that shit that pushed a button behind that shit that sent that. Bro, that changes everything. Well, the theory by the LAPD and the Biggie situation is the LAPD and they were up against the case already. So we can't really believe everything they say.

Mm-hmm. They have facts that Shug got biggie killed or Puff was the intended target, but Shug put the money down. And that was way more direct than what happened with Pock. Yeah, but I think, I think, I think the Shoe think they know. We already viewed Shug a little differently than we did. Right, right. It's still the same thing at the end of the day, and one actually has probably more evidence

than the other. So, yeah, Shug did the same thing. We kind of feel, but, but Shug is different, though. I agree with sugar is different. It's a lot different. Sugar is not the hip-hop mogul that Puff is. Shug is not the artist that Puff is. Sugar's not the figure that Puff is.

So he had the energy with him already that it's just some street gangster dude. Everybody's scared of him. You know, every comedian that made jokes about when Shug walking on him, how everybody gets scared. So we know that that energy came with him. Puff was the guy, the shiny suits, having fun, dancing, ladies, man. But Puff and Shug are both just genius marketers and one marketed one differently. Like, all the Shugs. But Death Row would say he was a football player.

He was from the neighbor. He was a football player. Good kid. Went to college. Try to do the NFL. Didn't make it. And then joined, he joined a gang when he was like 25.

Yeah, but at the same time. And he just marketed himself as this guy. He had him. But the difference is one marketed death row and one marketed shiny suits having fun, drinking champagne and the pool with chicks. Listen. No, no, my point.

My point is, Puff and Shug are similar people. One marketed himself as that because he had it. Puff marketed himself as the party guy does not mean he didn't have it too. I'm not saying he, But they just marketed differently. But the fact that...

They're both the same people with the same backing. I don't know if they're the same people. Because we've seen, even I guess in more contemporary like the thug case, we've seen the public perception lead drastically different than how you act in your private life. You can play two sides. I think that's kind of a Roy said. Yeah, but I'm just saying that you can. But to know that it's like definite that, yo, yeah, nah, Puff was behind us.

That shakes the entire industry, bro. Speaking of Shug, Shug, Shug, called. into TMZ and said Orlando wasn't the shooter and that there was only two people in the car. That's why he's never said a bad word about Orlando. But facts the matter is we know he paid Orlando to testify on his behalf and they had somewhat of a

relationship after that shooting. Then, you know, weeks later, Orlando was shot. Shug and Keefe did have a relationship. They played football together. They grew up playing football together. So that's what I'm saying. This is a lot deeper. You're going to start, you know, uncovering some things and getting some information about shit that you know, it's going to shake shit up.

It's not, I don't know if, you know, people are prepared to hear what they may hear in the coming weeks. You know what I'm saying? Like, it's a lot at stake here. And, you know, on one hand, I'm happy that the family will finally probably get, you know, some resolve and some of the questions answered. But at the same time, some of these answers I think we get ready to get is going to really, really change how we view people. I think the only way Keefey doesn't get life in prison is if he gives a confession that, that's different than what he's been giving to interviews, his book, and Greg Gating. Because all that stuff can't really be used, and that information is already out there.

If he tells a different story of who, because there's already been conspiracy that Orlando was in the shooter, the gentleman Dre was the real shooter, or Kee-D was a shooter, if he tells the real story all the way through and doesn't change it the way he's been changing everything, maybe they would give him a deal. But he's got to give up people. I mean, everyone's dead besides Puff. How do you feel about Shug saying if he's called to testify against Keevee D, he's not going to do it? I mean, it's a little hypocritical to what I said of Shug kind of becoming that part. But even if he wasn't that part growing up, he's that part now. I think Shug for years has stood tall on the whole thing. I don't think, I don't think Shug will ever test.

against anyone. I do think you can have your opinions about Shug. I think he sticks to that code. I don't think he's saying a fucking word. Now, obviously him and Keevati ever, you know, they know each other. They grew up together. But we can say that Pock and Shug's relationship was probably more important than Kee FD and Shug's relationship. Of course. So as Tupac's family, do they have a right to feel a way? No. About Shug not testifying on behalf of Pock? Pac decided to align himself and actively participate

within a culture that doesn't, well, is not supposed to do that. So he played the game. It's just, I mean, you can feel the way, but Pac put himself

in a position with people and participated in it. He's now part of that world and that world, of course, people snitch, but you're not supposed to. And Shug hasn't done that. So I can't see him doing that

or him even really being called. Because all of them are not viable witnesses. Yeah. They have no credibility because they all constantly lie. And even Shug, after Pock died, I forgot, it wasn't Letterman, it was something, when they asked him, would you ever say who killed Tupac if you knew? And he was like, I would never, ever say.

Well, I mean, you know, we got to wait and see. But again, man, I'm just, you know, I'm just thinking ahead here a little bit and what may or may not come on this shit. But I just feel like we're going to get some answers that, you know, just really going kind of shake shit up in our culture. And we can close. But that first press conference of Vegas PD being so proud of themselves

was one of the funniest things. That's ridiculous. That shit is ridiculous. They were really proud of themselves. Yeah. Y'all did not give a fuck for so long. No. All of a sudden you got your back against the wall

because this guy's been running around doing interviews and people are like, all right, guys, at this point, can you do something? And you did no work. You should thank Vlad, Greg Cating, Art of Dialogue, Cam, like, Vegas PD did nothing here.

The thing about this case, too, that people are not paying attention to is that this, I think, is going to be a domino effect with the Biggie case. Because I think a lot of people that are involved in this situation know a lot about what happened

with the Biggie situation. So, again, that's what I'm saying. It's going to be some, we're going to get some answers and we're going to get some shit. Who's alive? Puff. We don't know.

We don't know who else. We don't know who else knows anything. Who else is involved? We don't know. You're saying who's alive? We don't know. And that's my life. my whole point. Like, there's going to be names thrown out here that we're going to be like,

who the fuck is that? It's like, oh, that's the person that was right there when it happened. It's like, oh, shit. I mean, everyone that was in the car with Big from C's to Gene Deal to everyone has publicly spoken on a million interviews. Yeah, everyone that's been around it, I feel like, has spoken about it publicly. Mm-mm. I'm talking about it. The alleged shooter is dead. Shug was never going to say a word. He would indict himself even more. So I don't know who would be, unless there is a wild conspiracy, which there could be. That's all I'm saying. We got to pay attention to this shit.

You know I'm a conspiracy theorist, and I just think this was straight up, a Pock punched the wrong guy. Oh, no, but that was from day one. That got tied into Biggie, and that's, you know, the most unfortunate, pointless situation. But, you know. Lesson learned here, you niggas keep going on Vlad

and, you know, sitting down with that drum set behind you. No. And see where it gets you. That's all I'm going to say. Because y'all going on there. And people say, No, Vlad ain't the police. Look, he may not be the police, but the police is definitely watching every one of his interviews.

How can you really blame Vlad for this one? Yeah, you can't blame that. Not saying I'm not saying I'm not saying I'm not saying I'm not saying I'm blame Vlad. I'm saying these people that keep going on Vlad sitting down talking to Vlad about things that they probably shouldn't be talking about and saying like, oh no, Vlad is not police. He don't have to be police. That doesn't mean police ain't paying attention to Vlad's platform.

That's all I'm saying. I'm not blaming. Vlad is turning on lights and a microphone and just telling you to sit down and kick it. Whatever you decide to tell him and get off, that's on you. But at the same time, we can't sit and act like we don't know and don't see that, okay, the police are actively paying attention to this guy's platform.

I just, and we can wrap. But even in the book, you're saying new people involved, Kee-Feedee D said Big Meach was with him. And then Vlad asked, Big Meach was with you the night. Pock died. He's like, no, I was some other guy from Detroit. And Vlad's like, well, let me read from the book. So Big Meets was with us.

That's what key. Healy has no credibility. Everything's changed. So I don't know. I think I'll just do life. I don't know if I'll learn too much more, you know, is what it is. So Rory DM me another timeline. No, let's not do that.

First of all, first of all, don't try to paint it this way. I DM'd you a headline. I didn't DM you a video. This is a headline. You sent the Dropbox? No, he sent me the headline. No, because you acting like I sent you the video. No, no, no, no, no. I didn't even see the video.

But you sent me the headline that Sexy Red's sex tape leaked on her IG story. Yes, I did not send you the video. No, you didn't send me the video. I didn't see the video, but you sent me the headline and I was like, oh, well. That would have been the sickest 2 AM DM exchange between me and you. Here's a Drake freestyle and it's a sexy red. But the caption on the sexy red one, and he said, at least she doesn't lie in her wraps. Yeah, she keeps it thorough.

Pink and Brown, get it. This was something that came out. I didn't see the tape. I didn't want to see the tape. I don't care to see the tape. But so sexy red's sex tape allegedly leaked to her IG story, correct, DeMaris? Yes. Now, so she released statement.

She says, I'm so heartbroken. Anybody that knows me knows I wouldn't do no goofy shit like that. Heartbreak emoji, crying emoji. Now, I'm not sure about if I believe somebody. Now, I could say it was leaked in a way where somebody may have got her phone and posted it. But if she's saying she, she. accidentally posted it or somebody got access to her phone and posted. Nobody. She hasn't said anything. So then I could see somebody getting to her phone and doing that. I can't see her actively on her

Instagram story and accidentally posting that. I don't, I don't think that. I think it's impossible. Also, you have to do too much shit to post a video like to send it through so it goes through and post. Like, how is that an accident? It's not that hard. It's not that hard. I've accidentally posted shit that was in my camera roll. A video? Yes. I can see the accident more. If someone leaked or someone hacked her phone and wanted to leak that, I think they would have posted it not like threw it in a story.

If someone had a malicious... That's actually a good point. I don't know. Where they really hacked her phone, found that video, and had access to her Instagram, I think they would have posted that video. Posting a story of you.

I can see someone accidentally posting. You literally have to go to the arrow on the bottom, press it for it to like... No, you could swipe. You could swipe to, I guess, to the right. It's kind of easy to... Yeah, you can swipe to the right.

It could literally like press the fucking album and just hit. Like, it... I don't know if I'm, I think somebody may have, she had, her phone was unlocked and I can see somebody doing that. I don't think she did it accidentally. The first, first person would probably be the guy that she was sleeping with, no? Yeah.

I don't know. I feel like that's what I want to put that on his jacket. That's what I'm saying. I feel like that would make it too easy. If it was him? If it was him. Like, why would he do that to her? Either way, does, does the sex tape affect you?

Is it like, do people care about sex tapes anymore? In 2023? No, I don't think. I think it depends on who it is. It does. I would like to see India Love make that mistake. Oh my God. What if India Love did not want to make that mistake?

Exactly. Did not want to post her sexually post her sex sex. No, I'm saying I would like to see that. You would like her to intentionally post her sex tape and say, hey, everyone, I want you to see this. Or somebody stole my phone and did it. Got you. Ed and Lotto. Again.

Oh, that's a good one. That's a good mistake. I'm going back to what that's what's said. That's called hitting the lotto. That's called the jackpot. I wanted to do that. 100%. You guys are going to make me have to clean all this up.

You guys want them to purposely post. No, no, no, no. You want someone to accidentally show a private video of themselves. Oh, no. I want whatever tragedy that just happened to sexy red happen to some... Tragedy. I'm disagreeing with that part. Just saying.

I want to see that happen to some other people maybe. Sexy Red is kind of like, oh, okay. Damaris, have you ever accidentally sent a nude or shared that or something like that? I've accidentally sent was recording a video, a very embarrassing naked video of me, and I accidentally posted it to my Snapchat, and I had absolutely no idea that it was on there. But how does that happen?

I got so many messages. A girl, I followed it that year, like, 2015, maybe. Are you, like, recording it through Snapchat? So Snapchat and Instagram have filters on them, so sometimes people will record in those apps, and sometimes you can accidentally post. You go to save and you accidentally post, or you get distracted, you put your phone down,

And you know when your phone isn't locked And like you can sometimes be pressing shit on your phone And talk to text and all types of shit So sometimes things like that happen And I thought what I was doing was saving it And I wasn't paying attention I was talking to somebody And I accidentally sent it on Snapchat

So it was not my Snapchat story for like a good 5, 10 minutes Until I started getting a bunch of notifications And I was like oh fuck And I had a fucking heart attack Yeah but that it's not a good feeling Like that's not Did you have mad follows?

It was lit. It's not a good feeling. It's got an even worse feeling if it was like a bad representation. Oh, it was awful. I had a Batman cape on. It was bad. My sister, my older sister, she, wait, wait, wait. That's where I felt bad for, like, Black China, outside of the obvious of having someone to sex tape leaked that they didn't want to leave. Like, that Black China was, I feel like her head game was probably better than what was leaked.

That's like a double negative. I want to talk about China's a head game real quick. Why did you have a Batman cape? Were you in some cosplay shit? you was naked with a Batman cape on? Yeah, I'm sorry, you guys walked over that. You guys completely missed that line. Yes, that was.

Was it Halloween time? I see why you were embarrassed. Like, it's the cape. It's not that you were naked. It was the fucking cape. It was just the cape. Well, yeah, was this party city? I'm gonna keep it a hundred.

I don't know if I've ever even seen a Batman cape. I've seen Superman capes, like costumes. I don't know if I was ever seen a Batman cape. It was from Six Flags. Like, they had, you know how like shit you can like win. It was from Six Flags. You were butt-ass in a Six Flag Cape? Were you the hero?

that he wanted or the hero he needed? Definitely the one he deserved, baby. Definitely the one they needed, not the one they deserve. A friend of mine in college got blackout drunk and similar mistake on Snapchat accidentally uploaded a picture of his dick to his story. That's not an accident. And then fell asleep, passed out. So that was on his story for like 10 out.

Let's go marketing in the pan. Now that's the fear. Yeah. Or the fear, I think, I don't know if this is just a fear that girls have. When I wake up from like a nap or like sleep and my text messages and calls have been going crazy, the first thing I think is either. Someone died or my nudes leaked. Like, please and let it be somebody had died.

Please don't let it have been my nude. My sister posted a video a picture of her naked on her Instagram before. My older sister didn't know how to take it now. My niece had to drive to my sister's house and literally. So it was like living up there for like 15 minutes. And we all saw it and I'm like, you threw some money back? She came across my time. Like, why is my naked picture of my sister on her page?

That's wild. She had no idea. So we hit the group chat like, yo, you are all right? Like, what's up with you? And she had no idea. What do you mean? Yeah. She was like, yo, my brother said, yo, take that picture.

What are you doing? So then my niece had to drive to her house because she didn't even know how to, like, she don't know how to do Instagram. Right. My niece had to drive to her house and show her how to delete the picture off her Instagram. So all the time she's getting into car going on, it's like baking all her time. Not being. That's awful.

I'm like, yo, like it was funny, but it wasn't funny. Like, we was all laughing in the group check. It's like, now what you, nothing you can do about it. Like, everybody hasn't seen your ass. It's what it is. It's very awful. I feel bad for sexy. Y'all don't think she posted an accident though.

Y'all think she did not on purpose. I think it could be an accident. I mean, sex tapes have known they help. She's trending in the country now. So Yomi just show me something real quick and it was funny. And I can definitely see them taking the genius of the sex tape world that Kim Kardashian did and add that into the women rappers world. I'm not saying that's the case here, but I wouldn't shock me.

She was on Theo's on his podcast, right? Yeah, she's had the Trump comments on Theo's pod. Okay, so you only just show me someone's theory? you know, show me someone's one theory that apparently that happened on purpose so people would like get distracted from her Trump comments. Not only anyone cares too much about her political affiliations.

No one cares about what she thinks about. I don't know. She does not need to clean that up with a second. Nobody cares. I don't know. Nobody gives a fuck. It does not matter. Once you hit refresh is gone. Yeah, I don't know if there's a line I draw with sexy red where it's like, oh, never mind. Nobody gives a fuck, man.

I don't know if her Trump comments really made me like, oh, I can't. I'm wrapping that knowledge right now. I can see her being mad because maybe she wanted to start her only fans. I mean, this would be the wrong hour. Listen, isn't this her side dude that's been like leaking photos and bragging about fucking her already? So that's why I didn't want to put it on this guy's jacket, but he's already had this behavior already. Okay.

So I could totally see him having access to her phone. He took a video when she was asleep, right? Yeah, that's whack, though. That's corny. Yeah, that's corny. That's so corny. That's, I, you know, I understand a girl, man. I'd be fucking with you the more she cut you off.

but that's not how you get back at her and kind of, that's just corny stupid. And isn't that a crime? Yeah, it's not in me. Yeah. Yes. Revenge porn is a crime.

That's wild. Well, I mean, if sexy red, if that had nothing to do with you and you're embarrassed, we feel for you out that has been scrubbed from the internet. It's not. It's not.

It's not. It's not. It's still on a story. Yeah. It's not. It's 20 hours left. She re-uploaded it. She had to add a filter

over the video. I mean, I do think we're going to get, that's the next step with rap. I really think it's going to be porn star rap. We've gotten so far with sexual rap. The next step, we've seen, it was taboo when a woman that was a rapper showed her ass. That was wild. Now you have to be damn near butt ass to be a rapper. The next, there's only one other step after this. I hope that's. Bust it open? Yes. Yeah. I hope I'm allow for that one. What would be the next step? We've seen the progression. What would be the next step in the female rap world? That specific female

rap world. Fucking on camera. X-rated music videos. That's a really thing. That's a radio thing. No, but like with them really as the artist. Like not how rappers would have like naked women bagging up coke. Oh, like the actual artist. The actual female artist being naked. Well, Suki is leading the front in that shit. I was going to say, Suki trying to break down all barriers.

shit, she don't give a fuck. She's leading to charge? She's leading the charge in that category. Suki is she going to put her own squirt video out, all kind of shit on the internet I don't seen. And I'm not talking about the foreign star only fan girl that becomes a rapper and just continue. No, you're talking about rapper.

The rapper to the rapper. A rapper to only fans rather than only fans to rapper. That's the only next step I can think of. Yeah. So you're calling Bad Baby a pioneer. Yeah. Because that's what she's sure. She went from rap to, well, she went from Dr. Phil to rap to only fans.

Is she naked on only fans? I don't know. I think it's probably just nudes. Probably. Like photos. I don't think she's getting ramped out. I thought she was doing like bikini, that type of thing. Like thong bikini type of thing.

Not my content. Either way, she launched it on her 18th birthday, so those photos had to be kind of. No, she took them all that day, Rory. She had to shoot. Yeah. She didn't backlog photos from when she was 16. Oh, God. Anyways, can we get to voicemails?

Oh, yeah. Prayers to everyone involved in. Cairs of Sex, right? Yeah. Okay. Okay. Wait, is that a violation of that guy's parole? He has an ankle monitor.

If she presses charges. There's been photos of her in bed with that guy and he has an ankle monitor. That's a violation of... But she would have to press those charges. She is not going to. And she ain't doing that. She's from the street. She's standing tall.

She might have some niggas go at him, though. She ain't going to go to court. And then who knows? Like, she might be cool with it. She might be laughed at it. Like, yo, don't do that again. He could have her Instagram password. I didn't even think about that.

Because I've had guys who've had my Instagram password. Sometimes you have somebody's Instagram. You might sign it on their, anything can happen. You might sign in on their phone. What would it need to be to be deciding on someone else's phone? Why would you ever need to sign it on someone's phone? Why would you ever need to sign in on someone's phone? Things happen sometimes.

Like what? But fuck that. It'd be so scary to have an ankle monitor on and have beef. Like, there's only so many places you can go. Like, everyone knows where you are. Like, I'm thinking about it. She went to go get some guys to handle the. that like there's only a hundred feet that that guy can go.

Like yeah, yo, he had red lobster right now. Smoke the home house out. Yeah. Like, listen, even if he has like supervised release, like he has to be home at six. Yeah, he'll be back. We'll wait here for him. You just know he'll be there. He has to be back here. Let's just time it right. Show up when he shows up. Y'all pull up at the same time. Holy shit.

You've got mail. But yeah, voicemails. It's music for once. We can't escape Taylor Swift. So here we go. go. Hey, man, I fuck with the pie, but I'm just going to get straight to the question. Thank God. Which one of these songs is more hip-hop? Britney Spiris, oops, I did it again. Definitely.

Or Taylor Swift bad blood. Britney Spiris, she played the dude the whole song, even had him go down to the Titanic and get a necklace, and all she said was, oh, you shouldn't have. Then you got bad blood. That's straight beef. And low-key, band-aids don't fix bullet holes. That's a bar.

So which one of y'all think is more hip hop? I'm rolling with the Taylor Swift record. Same. Same. I don't know. Oops I did it again. Hip-hop never takes accountability. Brittany took no accountability.

She said oops I did it again. Yeah, but the lyricism. In a sarcastic way. The lyricism and the Taylor record is just hip-hop. Those are like bars. And Kendrick is in it if you want actual rap bars. Yeah. So that's like, that's definitely hip-hop.

That bad blood record is definitely hip-hop. Yeah, I'm going to have to go with Taylor. And you can't have blood in the song and it not be hip hop. Right. It's not bad crib. I mean, but if you think about pretty much every rap record up until this newest generation, it is, anytime a girl record comes on it is pretty much oops, I did it again. I played with your heart.

Yeah. Like, it is all no accountability like, I'm a piece of shit. Yeah. And I don't care that I'm a piece of shit. Taylor was going at her ops. It was just another ho. Taylor was going out of ops. I mean, she had the cameos in this were incredible.

Selena Gomez, obviously Kendrick's on the song. Gigi Hadid, Ella Goulding There's just a bunch of white women Who is bad blood supposed to be about? Who's the op? Who is the op? I thought it was Selena Gomez in this case, but I'm not.

No, she's in the video. I know, that's what I'm saying. I'm not up to date with my Taylor Beef. Because if I have my timeline correct, wasn't oops, I did it again, a shot at Justin when he was trying to act all tough after their breakup and she was trying to reverse it.

Like, you was really the one that was hurting, not me. So that's hip hop to me Spicy And then Justin responded Was Crime Me River after that? Yes, I think Six song. Love that song.

That was actually a crazy rap battle He won that song. He won that battle That song is hard That beat is hard She's still hasn't recovered She's slapping ass with kitchen knobs and shit now I feel for Brittany

But we all need to apologize to her father No we don't Why? No we don't Why? He had a point No he doesn't Why?

They made her like that She's swinging them knives like a habachi chef. I'm not saying that can't be the case. She's in her house. Even if she is mentally ill, she's in her house not harming anybody, not harming herself. She's not doing her. No, she's not. She's doing her thing.

That doesn't mean that somebody should have control of all of her money and what she does with her life. Well, not two things are true. She needs some supervision. That's all I'm saying. Yeah. She needs somebody to be there to kind of be like, yo, nah. Why?

Because she see the videos? She may not be able to make sound decisions with her money and with her. Where did you get that from? Her behavior. Her Instagram today. Because she likes. dancing on Instagram? It's not about liking dancing.

Don't do that. Joy is on Instagram dancing her ass off. Okay. But nobody thinks she's mentally ill. Brittany can dance. Brittany is doing things and moving in ways and kick. It's odd behavior. Let's be real.

It's odd behavior. It's not real. It's not. It's odd behavior. See, that don't do that because if that was Azealia Banks doing that, it would be killing her right now. So don't do that. It's odd behavior.

Damn. That tan is crazy. A zalia doesn't have to do that and people already say that Azileia is mentally ill. Okay. But this is normal behavior. But this is my thing. Even if she is mentally ill. There are multiple people in this room, right?

Not to better mentally. Why? No, just because she shows it in a different way doesn't make her mental illness any worse than y'all. This is dangerous. She's dancing with two butcher knives. But like, it's concerning when it's out in the public like that, when you're putting this content out, there's two different things.

Like, what is this, dude? Because she can't dance. I don't understand why y'all are hating. That choreography is kind of ill. You're hating. I'm hating because that's, I'm saying that she can't dance. First of all, she's smoking that. Looks like a lobster.

Yeah, I can't lie. This one's actually pretty dope. Yeah. Now, there's been some other shit. If you saw this in, like, Vegas at one of those shows, you think it was ill. I would ask for a refund. I would ask for a refund. But, you listen, give me get my money back.

This is the worst show I've been to in my fucking life. Shit. Who? If Britney was going live, cutting herself, or doing, like, self-destructive shit, then I could understand that. But she's actually just dancing on the internet. I know we're not allowed to say this, but you don't think that this may be, like, the breadcrumb trail to maybe that happening?

I mean, yeah. Like, this could be the early signs. Yeah. Because she's dancing on the internet. With knives like this? I know somebody... She danced once with knives. That girl dances every day.

She has to bring out knives for the celebration of hockey. I know a guy that does this on 42nd Street every day and he has mental illness. Yeah. He dances every day. Okay. And I know white girls who do this shit in their room all day every day or on TikTok all day every day. They just happen to not be famous.

Oh, mental illness is ramping on TikTok. So dancing makes you have... That's what I'm trying to say. It's not a dance. You're right for saying the same thing because we're on a microphone. But please look me in the eyes right now and tell me there's not something wrong with that girl? Even if there, I'm not saying that there's nothing wrong with Brittany. That's exactly what you say. No, that's not. I get you, you're saying the right thing.

But look at me in my eye and tell me you don't think there's something wrong with that girl. There is, you know what I think is wrong with Britney? I feel like Britney's been held in a, I think that I think that Britney has been held in a cage for so long and not allowed to fucking interact with people and have control over her life. That's how you get socially fucked up. And I think that that is the result of that. I don't think that falls in effect. I agree. I think that's no one's disagreeing with that. So you don't get to say that her father was right for what he when I think that she is doing this because of what her father did.

That was her main point earlier. Not the other way around. Okay, I was saying her father had a point of maybe she needs supervision. I'm not saying he should have had all of her money controlled every decision that she made. Clearly, that's probably how she got to the state. Yeah.

But can we please all agree that maybe he was right that she was not mentally stable? Even if he was the cause of that, which is extremely fucked up. But let's deal with the reality. It happened. She doesn't look stable. Someone should look after her.

I don't know. I don't think her father should. but somebody should. I think Brittany just doesn't give a fuck anymore. Honestly, I think Britney just does not give a fuck. She doesn't care what people think about her. And could be trolling too. She, I don't think, I don't think, I don't think she's trolling.

I think she's definitely. I think she misses attention. I think she's nuts. I think she misses attention. Yo, is Britney still follow me on Twitter? But I don't, I don't think that. The wild thing that. Weird flex.

I don't think that people need to sit around and watch Britney and have control over. Do you remember the day that Brittany followed you? Having control over it. What was the tweet that you? What were you wearing? No, I mean, I. And did you announce to the room? Because I would.

No, I didn't announce it. I just looked at one day. She is following me. That's cool. DM her. You should send her some knives. But she follows 350,000 people. We should.

Okay, but one of them is you. Remember a little beat of base guy? That's mental. All right, bye. It still does. We should, DM her, we should show up to her house as the cut-co knife. Yes. Great sketch.

Cut a, cut a shoe in half. Yeah. We'll bring the rope and try to cut it. That's gangster. That's gangster. That's gangster. That's gangster. I'm telling you.

That's gangster. Damn. We follow her back. All right, industry. You're not following her back? You don't smash that follow? No, Bernie fucking team. Your team follow back.

You followed your name? I'm a DM her though. And say what? But yo, you good? Send her a money back? Yeah. All right. Say yo, you good.

Dot, dot, dot. Want to come on the pod? Want to collab? It'd be great to have. I got to give her nickname. What's a nickname for Britney Spears? Brip Brit. Brut.

What's her? What's her fans called? The loyal. I don't, I think she had... You look me in my eyes and just asked me that. I don't know. How's you? Yo, B, you good?

The Brittany Army or... Oh, there's spearment. Spearmint? Spirment? That's like... Big Spear. Yeah, don't do that. Yeah, don't do that. See, look at you.

Don't ever write. Don't ever DM me by my baby father. Hey, hey, Britt. They had a kid. Okay, wait, hold on. We're getting into the live reaction. Uh-huh. Just saw your latest release.

You could just comment on the video. No, that's fine. Let him. Let him... So your latest release. Choreography was slamming. Look just like Shakira. You cut that up well.

An icon. That's true though. She is an icon. Let's not try to play. She's an icon. 100%. You are an icon beyond. Looking sharp.

Measure. Words. Mm. You are an icon beyond words. Mm. Would love to talk to you. Okay. About Drake's album of Drake's album.

You know wildest. You want to talk about the Drake release? Pretty special. Yo, damn, Britney Smith said, you want to talk about Drake's album? What are your thoughts on the Donnas? We'll love to talk to you about your thoughts.

Okay. Love on the Yankees not making the playoffs. And then say, because I, too, am at a crossroads. Good movie. The movie's great. Because, like, you.

Prime Britney was fucking great. It's a really shitty plot. But it's a good movie. Just like, just as a celebrity. She was a great celebrity. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

I mean, y'all want to have a plant conversation, but. Oh, you think Britney's a plant? Of course she was. I mean, all pop stars are poor. We're not going to. Well, we had the plant conversation. I said it's changed from when they used to just pick the girl out of the Disney lineup and try to make her. Oh, yeah, yeah.

Brenny was definitely one of those. Back to the voicemail real quick. We all agree bad blood, but these. I was on oops. I'm on oops. Okay. Four to one. But both these songs are produced by a Max Martin.

So the legend has been in the game for a very long time. That is actually crazy. Yeah, that's crazy. 2000 and what was Taylor Bad Blood was what? 2013. Yeah. Around there. Maybe 15.

15. Yeah. I don't know. Just why I have oops I did it again is, y'all ether takeover. This is my pop version of that. That's Ether. Justin is Jay Z. Anast.

Crimeeer River demolishes that. I think we have Justin to blame for this mental. He is a part of ability. I think she's, I think that, that was years past where she was still, nah, bro, he, he, no, I think once Justin dropped Cromney River, I think that's when she showed up with the ballhead and the umbrella, right after that, right? No, no, barefoot in the bathroom. No.

Oh, that was Kevin? Yeah, that was more Kevin. But I also think Brittany's shit comes from, you know, just being famous and she's been like 10 years old. Yeah. Do you remember when, you know, Justin's been famous just as long a word? Yeah. What about it? Yeah.

He seems to be doing fine. Do you guys remember when, you know, when game, I said it seems to be. Kevin Federline onto his freestyle for a drop. I remember that. I just want to note that game. Pivotal moment. Over at Jay Zee.

Kevin Federline. Also, Justin was not as famous as Brittany at one point, like at most of the points of Britney's career. I'm just saying they started out like around the same thing. Yeah, but Brittany had a different level of... That's subjective to, though. That's subjective if you count in sync. Insync was just as popular as Brittany at the same time.

Who are you talking about? But they were in sync. Justin was the lead. Insync. Instinct to Justin. And Britney Spears were on the same level. Yeah. Like, they started out.

There's Disney Channel, all that. Like, they came from that. They came from the same group. When I'm talking about, when I say fame, I'm not talking about their music careers. I'm talking about the way that the paparazzi lived up Britney Spears. Oh, okay. No, you're right. You're right there for sure.

It's come. Her fame was a lot different than Justin's and it was a harder road for her. They were equally famous, but they handled her fame. Well, women, yeah, women at that time were overly. It was like the introduction of paparazzi. Yeah. It was all weird. The air of like pedophilia and like, ooh.

That's so that's when I said like, I think her, her being famous for that long and how she, what she dealt with. Definitely. Also, I don't, yeah,

regardless they wouldn't win more towards Brittany because she's a woman. But at the end of the day, she did give them more. Justin kind of minded his business until he took Janice Titty out. Yeah. Don't do that. What? Um,

well, shout out to Britney Spears. Hopefully she's okay and she's feeling well. You keep us post? joking. Yeah, I'm going to hopefully let she'll respond to the Did you end that with Love Mall? No, I didn't end it with Love Mall. You did the knife emoji? No, I should have.

Damn, no. You shouldn't. Punch back in. Shout out to Britney Spears, though. All jokes aside, hopefully she is well and doing good. Shout out to Nick Grant. Nick Grant, he dropped the album last week, Sunday dinner. Great album. Nick Grant, been one of my favorite rappers, one of my favorite emcees for a lot of years. If you have not, listen to Sunday Dinner by Nick Grant. Do yourself a favor. But if you are a fan of hip hop, if you are a fan of rap, download, stream, listen to that Nick Grant's Sunday dinner album. I promise you you will not be disappointed.

This is high-level rap. This is high-level hip-hop. And I'm happy to see that Nick Grant is finally in a space where he's producing this type of music, putting it out. And people are being very receptive to it. But he's been rapping his motherfucking ass off for a lot of years. So shout out and salute to Nick Grant. And while we're quickly on new music, that Earth Gang and Spillage Village EP? Yeah.

Rest in peace to human art. is incredible. Yeah, straight to the point of- record. You had played it in a car over there. We was in a car and I was like,

Dan, it just sounds really good. No, Earth Gang, they smoke that. It's a lot of good rap out right now. I know rap kind of gets to, you know, because they push a lot of the rap that we really don't want to hear about or, you know, not the type of energy we like to hear, but there's a lot of good rap out right now.

Yeah. A lot of good rap out right now. So shout out to Nick Grant. Shout out to Earth Gang. The Drake album is out now. If you're listening to this, if you're listening to this, it's too late. It's already out.

For all the dogs and them. Somebody else's going. West Side Gun is coming. Pause. Yes. Pray for Paris and then you pray for me. He already said this album of the year. He's never said that. He's never not said that. So shout out the gun. But it's a lot of rap coming out, man.

Fourth quarter is going to be very interesting. And yeah. I'm looking forward to offsets album a lot. Offset? Yeah. Track. Oh, Cardi said she's dropping February. No, that's, I don't know.

That wasn't real? I don't think that was real. Why y'all keep playing with me? Yeah, you keep fucking with me, man. All I want is a Cardi album and y'all keep fucking with me. That's us, right?

Yeah. It's our fault? Who said that the album was coming out February? It was like a fake Twitter page. Was it? Yeah, I saw that post. She was hacked.

It wasn't even from her page. So we didn't, we don't have... The fan page was hacked. So we don't have... She does have a feature on Offsits album. I would hope. She has a feature in Offsets Life. But I think one's out already now.

Yeah, one is out. And then there's another one coming out I think Offs' albums going to do better than Quaivos? Sales-wise, it probably will. But that Quaibo album is pretty good. I was actually kind of surprised. I went into it thinking I may not like it that much.

And it surprised me. I think Quabo's album will be better than offsets. I think Offset will sell more, though. Rory, I listened to that Fuck the Girls record again. How did you think that was a pop record on Doja's album? I still think it's a pop record. How? What did you hear that was pop?

That is a rap record. Okay. Did you know what song I'm talking about? Yeah, fuck the girls. Yeah, no, I know a song. That's a pop record to you? Mm-hmm. How?

Just explain that to me. It's a pop parody rap record. It's a, it's how you try to make pop rap. I don't know if I agree with you on that. No, actually, I don't agree with you on that. It's not a pop record. That's a rap record. Any final thoughts before we take a call back on Patreon?

I think the Pete Davidson Ice Spice S&L return will keep those rumors going, that they're dating. I think they're going to continue. And I think this is another way to just keep Pete Davidson relevant and the people around him relevant. And it's going to be a sad monologue about his life. So the rumors is Pete Davidson and Ice Spice are dating? It was like months ago. I think it was still during the NBA season. I think they were both in a Knicks game or some shit. So this is going to be a thing. There's like 30,000 people there. And Mall was there. So maybe Mall is dating Ice Spice. But I don't know, man. This

this Pete Ice Spice thing. I see where they're going with this. I don't think they paired these by accident, is all I'm saying. I think this timestamp Drake is fooling us, and that album is going to be mid as fuck. Wow, I'm going to smack shit out of you. Try it. I think Paul Wall...

Especially if it's mid, he's going to smack the shit out of him. I think Paul Wall's new album that's coming out next week is going to be out of some cool features on there. I'm excited for the Paul Wall album. I fucking love. Y'all getting some sick shit off right now. I just won't let y'all know that. What's worth that of Paul?

It's going to be mid. She said Paul Wall's going to have album of the year. What the fuck are y'all talking about? What's the way? You don't think Paul Wall could have? Album of the year? What year did People's Champ come out? What year is this?

He maybe had album in the year that year. No. People's champ was 2005. Platinum. In 2005, it probably wasn't an alma of the year. No, I can promise you that was not. It's a great album, though. Good album.

But I'm not, it wasn't album of the year. That's what I'm speaking to. It was just Almit of the year. He had the internet going. on nuts. Shout out to Paul Wall, man. Y'all can be tight when this album is mid-dick. I like Paul-Wall. Shut up, Edd.

Quick question before we switch over. What it is for all the dogs is dog season? Oh, God. What dogs? You really had a deep throwback, huh? What dogs would you be? If you were a dog, what kind of dog would you be? Basley. All right, so Gabe. You'd be a Yorkie poo?

First of all, she's a multi-pooh. Oh, multi-pooh. Got you got money. I'm sorry, my bad, bro. I get my poos. I get my poos mixed up. We don't fuck with the yorks. Um, pit bull. Uh, I think as pit bulls, they get a bad rep and they're really like sweet, sweet animals. To their own. I would not call you.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Um, I'd be a beagle. You look like a beagle.

You are a beagle. I was going to say American bulldog. I would take other one. Yeah. But beagle. You kind of have pug vibes too. He got you. Fat?

Yeah. You breathe like a pug. Because I'm fat? No, you breathe like a ugly, bro. No, he called me fat. I shared a room with you. You breathe by them. She'll me just said I'm ugly, cute.

That's a compliment, right? I don't know. Yeah, they are ugly cute. They are. They're so ugly that they're cute. That's what they're saying. You have them long enough to become cute. What do you think, DeMaris?

We've had Eddn long enough. We did. That's crazy. I think I would be a Rottweiler. All right, man. Yo, listen, man. It's been real. Yo, listen, man.

Let's finish this old age. I got a strong jaw. I got a strong jaw. I got a strong jaw. That's what makes it valid. You got a strong jaw. And they're like cute and soft, but like. All right.

So let me ask you something. People can sleep on them. That's what's up. Now that's valid. But how you get a strong jaw? Like how you know your jaw is strong? Look at her. You mean frozen Snickers balls?

You like that. You like that. In one bite? One bite. Yo, man, we're going to finish this on Patreon. What about Julian's dog? Oh, Julian? Oh, Julian?

Definitely a chihuahua. Get the fuck out of here. You are definitely a chihuahua. I'm not a fucking chihuahua. You would be like a... I don't know what I would be. I was just more excited to ask you guys that question. What's a Canadian dog?

He'd be one of those. A greyhound. He would not be no fucking grahound. Yeah. I'd want to be in the sporting breed. Nah, like you don't like black people. You're a German Shepherd. We'll talk to y'all next week.

Wait, wait, we do. We have a call back. So we should go right to Patreon. with our callback. Okay, yeah, right. All right. All right. I do that. Yeah. Let's go. Peace. American soccer is about to explode.

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