New Rory & MAL - Episode 21 | “OPPumentary”

Episode Date: November 23, 2021

You guys like when we deep dive into absolute nonsense right? … perfect!Rory & Mal start with discussing thank you tracks/interludes in hip-hop, eventually ending up in a conversation about their respective weekends, where they both attended the Teyana Taylor ‘Last Rose Petal’ farewell tour… but on separate nights. NYC was lit this weekend between the tour and the Soul Train Awards being filmed at the Apollo, so of course the guys discuss this, as well as the AMA’s. We’re going into Thanksgiving, and the guys discuss plans, and family, and how Lebron’s dad is probably regretting walking out on him. Mal wants to find out who is really getting it out of the ‘’mud” … as well as where all the imaginary haters and opps are. Rory got ran down on at the Donda show, and Mal gives him an apology. Baisley’s Only Fans, street harassment, and more get brought up. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoicesSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Everybody. Is anybody? Yo, thank O'K at the corner store for letting you slide that time I was short. Oh man, I appreciate that. I could never turn my back on more. That's right, Val-Wal. Do we get thank you tracks and hip-hop anymore? Don't follow these doops.

Is that sort of like a thing? We don't get thank you tracks and hip-hop anymore, do you? No. We don't even have a CD, a little pocket thing where they could thank the execs that no one knew. Yeah, but it's like, I feel like artists still have a thank you track. It's IG captions.

IG captions now. No, thank you for the support. Buy my T-shirt now. Yeah, the IG. Buy my bundle. The IG is definitely to thank you. Credits and all of that now. Only thanking when you have something to purchase, I would say.

Yeah. But no, Bow Wow, he was leading the way. He let him know. I was a kid and I was following the dopes until Bow Wow said that. And then I was like, damn, I didn't even think of it that way. I shouldn't follow these dopes. It's interesting to watch, like, performers and entertainers that were kids, like where they are now as adults.

Yeah. Like, you forget how much shit, like, in seeing Bow Wow now on, on, like, Instagram, you forget how much shit he did as a kid. Like, is there any real, like, uninterrupted and bullshit in their career of a child star that didn't either have terrible, embarrassing moments, got addicted to drugs? Who is the quintessential kid that, like, is the standard that made it? Every child actor, musician, reality star. Always ends up fucked up in some capacity.

You know Patrick Harris? I wouldn't say he made it squeaky clean. Yeah. I don't know about that one. Yeah, no, not squeaky clean, but yeah, that's interesting. I wonder why that is, though. And it seems like it's only in, well, no, I was about to say our culture, but I know some. I know.

I know some. The Hollywood whites get to it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, definitely. Tarereet. Listen, Lindsay Lohan was going crazy on the L. Yeah. Yeah, it never works out their way. But I guess if I had all that money...

That's just pressure. Yeah. And I'm at parties. Like... Yeah. Yeah, all that pressure from being young and trying to live up to those standards when you were such an innocent child.

And now you're not allowed to make any mistakes as an adult. Actually, does Tiana Taylor count? I wouldn't say she was a child star, per se. We saw Tiana when she was a... She was young. She was pretty young. Tiana might have... She was in the public eye since she was about maybe 15.

Yeah, my Super Sweet 16. Yeah, so she, yeah, she might be one of the ones that made it and doesn't have any crazy headlines and any incidents on the internet. That's kind of crazy. Yeah, T might be the only one. Well, definitely that I could think of. That was a sick time at MTV when My Super Sweet 16 was on and then the following show after that was 16 and pregnant. How do you think the 16 and pregnant girls felt like, they're leading like, damn. Who was the programming director over there at the time?

How did they program those shows? Let's find all the privileged kids we can, and then let's find the kids that didn't pull out. Okay. Yeah, we need to, we need to. I'm going to sit down with that programming director. I want to know what was going on in the meeting where they was like,

nah, put this right after 16 and pregnant right after my super sweet 16. Let's put things in perspective again for these young teen mothers. Weird, weird times over there. You stood me up for the Tiana Taylor show. No, it wasn't a stand-up thing. It was, you know, didn't have the proper credentials.

And by the time I thought about going home to get it, and it would have been. Do you know what it was like to stand in line at a Tiana show by yourself? You didn't stand there. Everyone asking, are you ready by yourself? Where's your date? First of all, cut it out. I'm like, oh, he's on the way, I promise.

Yo, first of all, you did not stand in no line. Yes, I did. You didn't stand in no line. I'm one of the people. You didn't stand in no line. You walked right to the front like I did. You gave them your name. and I've seen you at TSA.

So I know how you get at 10. When it come to lines, I know how you get. You don't do lines. There is no clear at Terminal 5. No, there's a clear. Right there. You know who to look for. The girl with the thing in her ear,

with the little thing, you know who to look for. Hey, I don't want to make a big deal, but I'm with the band. Exactly. That's exactly how you got to do. You didn't wait on line. But, yeah, I caught the show last night.

Amazing. Yeah. I do love Terminal 5 as a venue. Yeah. But I feel like that show deserved to be. being an arena. Yeah. We don't know Tiana

and how she's with performances. So it's not like I was going in like, damn, I'm shocked that she did this, but I was still blown away, even with the expectations of knowing what she does. That show is fucking...

Yeah, she definitely put on the show like she was in the arena last night. She didn't dumb her showdown at all just because it was a smaller venue and Terminal 5 was a nice size venue. Yeah. She might have had about 3,000 people in there last night. Yeah, back to back, sold out shows.

Amazing. Amazing. She put on, Tiana put on an amazing. Asian show and start to finish. When her daughter came out to sing, I think I might have been close to the kitchen because there was definitely onions being cut close by me.

I got like real misty when her daughter came out to do a duet. But it's dope because we watched her grow up. You know what I mean? Like she's, Tiana has documented her and she has the reality show and all of that with the family. So we watched Little Junie grow up.

So it was dope to see her on stage and her element. She's a star. Oh, for sure. She's definitely not a shy bone in her body. But yeah, I was just happy for Tiana, man. Like she put on an amazing show. The production, the choreography, of course.

We know that's what she does. She's just a visual person, a talent. Yeah. She gets it. She understands how to put on the show. She understands how to make things look good. And there was a lot of people in there. A lot of her peers that were in there last night.

They all said the same thing. Like, yo, she put on a crazy show. Yeah. went to the popping show. I went to the one before like with just the fans. All you celebrity folks were there, I think. But I would have thought that everybody would have been there over Saturday. So did I. Yeah. Me going

and looking around for the celebrities and I couldn't find them. Yeah, where the celebs at? You're getting the spots on where the celebs are? Yeah, where's the verified checks at? Yeah, that's nastiness. We got to take photos together and pretend with friends. That's nasty. Share some followers here. It was a lot of people in there last night though, man. But yeah, shout out to Tiana, her entire crew.

a tour is if you didn't get a chance to see her. If she's coming to your city, please go see Tiana because I promise you this show was something if you want to see. For sure. And there was a lot of women there. A lot of sexually explicit moves happening on the stage. Yo, it was crazy, man, because she did a little segment she gave Lala and

what's the girl, Dreamdoll? Is that her name? Oh, so you got to go to the show with Lala and Dreamdoll? No, I didn't go with them. Let me make that clear. I don't want to put that out there. Meanwhile, I'm with WME reps. No, they were on the stage. She pulled them on the stage to give them both a private dance. And after she gave them a dance, she asked the ladies in the crowd,

whose pussy is wet. And like every woman in there, I think some dudes might have, too. Listen, I may have been like, mm. Yeah. Something's wet. I can't quite figure out what it is. Maybe I pissed myself with it. Yeah, I laugh so hard, man, because it's just, it's just fun.

funny when you see like a female entertainer control a room full of women and like they all want to like fuck her yeah it's like all the straight women wanted to fuck yeah it's the funniest shit in the world man but um she put on a great show it was a great show last night she uh she didn't use a celebrity for our show she just used a woman from the crowd um who i might add was a if i were to assume would be a lack of a better term a stud if you will okay some young MA vibes were on the stage. Okay. And within this segment, Tiana gets on top of her, like, four dancers.

Sun held all five of them down. Yeah. She was prepared? Yo, she was ready. Yeah. I think Tiana met her mad. She was a little nervous, I think. Yeah, Dream Dog, Dream Dog was a little nervous.

Lala was a little nervous. I ain't even want that T-smoke. I don't want that, too. They didn't want that, man. They didn't want, they was cool, though. You know what I'm saying? Seeing them uncomfortable, that's part of the show. But, yeah, Tiana put on a great.

fucking show with me i'm so proud of her she did she did her thing last night speaking of that smoke i did think maybe you stood me up not only because you didn't have the proper identification or whatever it was thought maybe you're a little sugar you didn't want to run run into um on yeah here you go you're gonna talk like you're about to go to the show like nah i forgot my id you're gonna try to push this narrative i just want to know you said you was gonna show up somewhere you didn't show up somewhere nah i showed up someone had beef with you there no nobody it's nobody has beef in me um You know, I just couldn't make it sad. I made it Sunday, though.

I made sure I was there. I posted a video, let people know I was in the building. Okay. So I'm not. So you was letting him know? I was letting people know that following me? No, he doesn't follow me. Okay, you think he checks your page, though.

No, I don't think so, man. Did you put a money bag in the video? No, no, no, no. I'm not even, look, I'm not going to let you pull me into that because I don't even want it to sound like it's an issue. There's no issue. He felt some type of way about the money bags under one of her post. Me and T spoke about it, and it was a whole thing,

because they was, you know, having a little disagreement, but it's all good. You're a backstager. You were in backstage. No, I wasn't. Did you go to backstage? Yeah, I went to, I went to CT after the show real quick. By yourself? Sean was with me.

Okay. Yeah, Sean was with me. Just wanted to show her love. Sean was the muscle? No, Sean's just my guy. He wasn't the muscle. You don't need muscle at Tiana show. I think a mom can take you and Sean.

For sure. For sure, absolutely. But I think if Tiana jumps in, you all are definitely front. Yeah, nah, but it's all love, man. I shout out to Tiana, shout out to Iman. You're so in love with them. That's family, man. Okay.

Yeah. All right. Well, after the show, the Soul Train Awards were in New York. It was nice to see people were actually in New York this way. At the Apollo. Yes. I thought that was interesting, interesting venue. It was very, very industry over at Last Lap.

The Soul Train Awards came to Last Lap. Really? They should have just shot them in there. That was Saturday, right? Saturday night, yeah. Which was cool. But, yeah, I look forward to see the Soul Train Awards. I know the AMA.

happened. Doja Cat won best R&B artist over Jasmine Sullivan. Listen, man, it is, you know. You know I'm Doja Hive. Yeah, yeah, no, Doja's amazing. She's an amazing artist. I don't want to seem like we slighten her in the least bit. She's an amazing artist. But R&B? After the album, Jasmine Sullivan, just put out?

Yeah, no. I don't need to hear Seas album. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, they got that one wrong. You and Siza can go to the pop category for that one. Yeah, and I love Doja Cat. I think she's amazing. But if we talk an R&B album, it's very, very,

Very few have had a better R&B album to Jazz and Sullivan. And I think, I hope they get it right with the Soul Train Awards. Because I remember Ari had mentioned a couple years ago when I think she had gotten slighted on something. And it's like, Doug, this is the Soul Train Awards and Shade Butter Baby is not nominated or winning right now? It's the Soul Train Awards. Save this other shit for the VMAs or something.

If we're going to call it the Soul Train Awards, how about Soul Music is the winner? Yeah, it's so, it seems like every year at these awards, shows we talk about this. It's always like they put things in different genres and they call certain things, you know, R&B, pop, whatever, and it's kind of like, or rap. And we're like, that wasn't a rap album. But that wasn't an R&B album. It's like, I don't understand how they're categorizing these artists or these albums, but Doja Cat having a better R&B album than Jasmine Sullivan, no. We shouldn't have an R&B album, but no.

Did it air at the AMAs? I just saw a lot of the clips of people that. It did yesterday. It was all right. Oh, yeah, so now I missed it. Saw Chloe Bailey giving it up. Is that the way that they kind of have to get people to watch award shows now? Because the viewership is so drastically low that it's like, all right, let's make sure the one you want to see twerk is performing. They definitely look at your online impressions. Because let's put it this way.

And I know I'm going to sound like a hater. I'm a big Chloe Bailey. I wouldn't say fan. But I appreciate the Chloe and Haley album. I thought it was good. I appreciate what she does. You recognize her talent. She's talented.

Very much so. And a very beautiful girl. Even though she still looks way too young for me to find it attractive like that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I get it. That song is not doing shit. Like, that performance is based off of the, let me not say antics because that's not fair. The stuff that's going on on IG and how they know she's going to perform is what it is.

Because that record, let's be real. And she's too talented for that record. Fun records are cool. get it single, I have to do the video, I understand. But that record is really just based around what she's been doing on, on IG. So I don't know if that's... Yeah, I'm with you. I find it a little weird, you know, because she is, well, she's of age.

She's, how old is she, 22? 22 or 23 or something. So, yeah, she's a young woman. But I just feel like it's been a little too much over-sexualization in the past two years, like online. I think that, you know, it's great. You know, love women can be sexy. They can do whatever they want.

But it's like you said, I think a lot of people only started to recognize her when she started to, you know, post videos online. Showing her, you know, her body and things like that, which is, again, that's her prerogative. But I think that that's starting to overshadow the music and overshadow the art. Yeah, but I mean, is that ever going to change? Because you could say that about so much other. Like, he would say that about Lil Nas X in what he does. And even some of the stunts that rappers do. Like, that is just, I guess, a tool for women that will take them to the views a bit quicker.

Like, Chloe Bell used to fucking post her making beats on IG and if she's just was tough and wouldn't get any traction. Obviously, we know where it's going to go with that. And if she's embracing her body, all for it. Right. Amazing. But that's just kind of becoming, I think, the total marketing tool. specifically at Atlantic, I feel like. Okay.

Specifically. Like getting behind that, putting all your money into that one big sexual record and video. Mm-hmm. From Normani down to Cardi, Meg, everyone. That's kind of just become the strategy. And the videos come out phenomenal. You look great. But the records never really hit like that.

Well, that's the thing. I mean, you got to, no matter what, you can be. Outside of WAP, obviously, WAP, fucking put. If you're going to, you can be beautiful, sexy, you know, all of these things, but if the music, you know, if the product that you're selling isn't up to par, it really doesn't matter. You know what I mean? Like I don't care what stunts the labels try to put together and, oh, you know, Chloe's a grown woman now.

You know, let's kind of play into that and her embracing her body, which is great. All of those things are great. But if the music isn't strong and the music isn't connecting to the fan base, all of that is for what? Yeah, especially when you have artists like her that don't need. to rely on it where others may have to. And Normandy too is super talented too. It doesn't have to rely on that either.

But I mean, that's the world we live in. I think it actually says more about society than it does say about the people that are doing it. Because look, I mean, of course we're going to click that. Absolutely. I mean, she looks amazing. But, you know, again, if the music isn't there, it's like we're just stuck on that.

Listen, that's all we want to see after a while. You know what I mean? I'm a nerd. So, like, you know in like porno category? where they always have like the girls playing video games and then he fucks like that's like the nerds dream if chloe bailey was doing what she was doing and making beats at the same time like be half naked and make beats that's that's my dream that would give me going like damn look at look at the

titty and the mpc okay i mean if that's listen i'm not here to i'm not here to step on nobody's dreams if that's your dream then you know all for it but um i'd get what you're saying. If it's going to be that, mix that in with the art, more of the art, you know, show more of the talent as far as the music and everything, like, tied all in together to it makes sense. I get what you're saying. You know, again, it's embrace your sexuality. You know, embrace your body. All those things are great. But make sure that the music is still highlighted and that the music is still what is being put into the spotlight. Because, again, And if you're just walking around looking sexy and attractive and beautiful, you know,

then we're going to have to start getting into, like, skin care and beauty products in a minute and get away from the music, you know what I mean? So, you know, she's super talented. I hope the label gets it right and they start getting music for her, like more for her, not just because she's talented and, you know, you think she can find out the type of music she wants to make. For sure. Which I'm sure they're probably already doing.

Beyond San Parkwood, I'm sure. But like you said, the music just isn't connecting. I don't know why. Let's give us some time because the last album that she did with her sister, I thought, was really good. And it was definitely leaning more into the mature side of music. So, yeah, I mean, she has one single out. Obviously, they're going around what's going on online. So let's see, who knows?

She can give us a fucking seat at the table for all we know. And just this could be the single to trick us. No, I'm waiting because, like I said, I recognize the talent. The talent is there. I know she's amazing talent. But again, for me, the music just hasn't connected. But I'm still on board, though. I'm trying to think what else happened over the weekend, as far as anything else.

But did you watch the King Richard? I did. King Richard. Absolutely. A great movie. Very inspirational. You almost, and one thing I do like about the movie is that they highlighted Venus. Because Venus, you know.

for years has been overshadowed by Serena. Serena is arguably one of the, if not the greatest athlete of all time. Yeah. Not just tennis player, but greatest athlete of all time. So, you know, Venus has been overshadowed by Serena's success in the last few years. And I like the fact that the movie kind of highlighted Venus. You know, they showed that relationship how she was the one that the father pushed the most and kind of kept Serena in the shadow.

But then, you know, they showed that conversation of, yo, I kept you on the shadow because I know you're going to be the greatest. You know what I mean? Venus is just going to be the one that gets there first. But it was a great movie. Will Smith did a great job. And it was inspiring. My homeboy, he has a daughter, and he called me,

told me he saw it and he was like, yeah, that movie was so inspiring, especially if you have a daughter as a black man. And I think they did a great job. That's a really, really good movie. If anybody hasn't seen yet, they should definitely watch that movie. I did see some social media traction of folks. Did he have a whole second family or something?

Did they get into? Yeah, they spoke about that. They addressed that he had other children. Okay. From an outside relationship. Yeah, they addressed that briefly. I mean, can we call a spade of spade? Every time I watch these documentaries that focus on fathers that really helped their kids reach their goals,

they kind of have to have some ain't shitness in them. They're all kind of pieces of shit. like Tiger's dad was kind of a piece of shit Joe Jackson was kind of a piece of shit I'm hearing from just from women's side King Richard was kind of a piece of shit That's the side you're here for okay no go ahead You have to be raised by a toxic person to make it

Um No I'm not gonna say you have to be raised by a toxic person In order to make it But there's definitely Some connection there like you know it's It's just in our community Matthew knows kind of a piece of shit Yeah, I mean, you know, it happens, man.

I mean, you have, you know, these relationships on the side. And sometimes things happen. Children are created. But you want to have a family with this person. And, you know, it's unfortunate because if you have kids and, you know, you kind of want to be there for all the, well, you should be there for all your kids. But most of the time it doesn't work out like that. And then you have these families growing up with these secrets and these things. Like a friend of mine, he did Ancestry.com.

I think that's what he did. And he just found his real father. Okay. Through that. And we were having to talk. And, you know, he was, I was asking him, I was like, yo, do you have any hard feelings towards your mom that she, you know, she never told you this? And he said at first he kind of did.

But he was like, you know, he really, he really doesn't. Like he was like, you know, for whatever reason his mom didn't, you know, want to let people know that she had a relationship with this guy. And you know, you think about it, it's like, you know, our parents were young at one point. And sometimes you have relationships with people. You're not supposed to have a relationship with and things like that. And then, you know, next thing you know you're pregnant. But it's like you can't tell people it's his kid.

You got to, especially if you have a relationship with somebody else. So it's a lot of things, man, that, you know, you kind of uncover and doing things like that. But I do think that it's amazing to find who your real parents are. For me, it would have been rough to accept something like that. I told him my homeboy every day, I'm like, damn, for me, it would have been rough. But he's happy. And, you know, it was an interesting thing because he found out that his father was into music. You know, he's into music.

And he was saying how, you know, had he known his dad when he was younger, it may have given him more confidence to kind of pursue his musical dreams, being that his dad has success in the industry. So it was interesting. It was a whole deep conversation that we went on, but the bottom line is that he, his mom, had a relationship, a side relationship with a guy, ended up having a kid, but she couldn't obviously tell because whatever the situation was back then. You know, she just couldn't tell people that her and this guy

had a side relationship and things like that. So I'm saying that it happens both ways, is what I'm saying. Oh, absolutely. You know, the mother can have a kid from a relationship that she wasn't supposed to have as well as men do in the King Richard movie. Well, I mean, I think with dads like, Venus and Serinas, Tiger Woods, Matthew Noles, all these people,

all very ambitious and risk takers as people. Even in relationships. So I'm saying we can't always have ambition as like a buffet. Like if somebody's ambitious, they're going to be ambitious across the board. They're not going to be. Personal business and in life and with women or with men. I'm going to need more.

I'm going to need more fucking thrills. I need to keep my adrenaline going. Yeah, it's going to happen in fucking too. Yeah, it happens. It happens, like I said, it happens more often than we think. Again, you know, I started, I started thinking, I was like, damn, how many of the homies if they decided to do Ancestry.com would find out that their dad isn't their real dad. You know what I'm saying?

It's like, like I said, our parents were young at one point. We got to keep that in perspective. Our parents were young. They were having fun. And things happen, man. Things happen. So, you know, I know sometimes it's easier to say, oh, no, this is you. your dad and it's like,

nah, that ain't my pop, that ain't my pops. It's subjective. Yeah, like, that ain't my pops. What you was doing, Mom. You know what I'm saying? That type of thing. But yeah, the King Richard movie is a great movie. They got that one right.

And shout out to Will Smith, another great movie to his catalog. For sure. It sucks that his press run has to involve his sex life and Jada's ambitions. She's an ambitious person. No, I get it. You know, I mean, listen, if things happen,

you know, she wouldn't have entanglement and things like that. I mean, listen, Jada's beautiful, man. I get it. I'm with you. Speaking of family, Thanksgiving's coming up. Yeah.

I mean, outside of the genocide, it is one of my favorite holidays. Well, did they change it officially? Is it Native American? No, it's the next day.

So we still, we're still doing Thanksgiving. We're still giving thanks for the genocide. But then the next day, it's like the repass. Yeah, it's like we try to promote change. Yeah, like, yo.

Oh, got it. That was crazy that we did that. Yes, but you'll hear we, here's another day. Yeah. But we can acknowledge that, yo, we did some fucked up shit. I know we've discovered India and we still call you Indians. Yeah.

Yeah. Yo, my bad. It's, again, when you start to peel back these layers, man, this society is crazy. But, yeah, the holiday is coming up. I don't like to say Thanksgiving. The holiday is coming up. Okay. Just another excuse for people not to go to work and spend time with their family.

Look at what we need to spend time with our family. We need to celebrate a genocide? Genocide. Yeah, we got to celebrate. embracing an entire group of people. I'm telling you the society is crazy, man. But either way, yeah, it's time with the family coming up. It's interesting for me now around the holidays because I'm vegan.

So now my mom has to call me like two weeks before. Like, okay, so what is it that you need? I probably wouldn't even invite you to keep it a buck. You can. It's all size. Veggies. Just have some veggies for me. Have some veggies and some rice and, you know, things like that.

I'm cool. I mean, see, you're also this guy, so this example could be weird. when everyone's smoking and drinking and doing whatever, like, at a party, and then there's, like, that one person in the corner that's just dead sober, and, like, they're just fucking up the vibes. Like, if everyone's tripping on mushrooms and it's one person that's not, and it's like, you're really fucking up the energy over here. That's kind of how I feel you would be at a Thanksgiving table.

No, it would be, my plate would look a lot different from everybody else's. Think you better than us? No, not at all. My plate will look different, but it won't be Instagram. It's, it's, no, you can, I'm, I'm, I'm going to, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, Watch, I'm going to get my vegan shit off just for you. I'm going to tag you in every vegan plate I post this thing, this holiday. I don't want to say Thanksgiving, this holiday.

But yeah, it's, it's, um, we need to normalize being vegan, man, because I feel like I'm outcasted a lot, like when I go out with my friends now. Yeah, well deserve. They're like, oh, he doesn't eat that. I'm like, why do you have to yell at? Like, why you got to yell at? Like, okay, yeah, no, I don't eat that. It's our get back because you have to fucking remind us every time.

It's beating into my brains. I don't have to remind, I don't remind anybody. Like I just, I show up, and if there's nothing there that I can't eat, I just don't eat. We were talking about doing like our team Christmas dinner and planning that. We were going through list of restaurants and every time we landed on one, it was like, yo, mall. Can't do carbone. It's no vegan options. I can do carbone.

It would just be all veggies. That's it. I was at Barbuda this past week looking at the menu because they got this nice little table like by the kitchen set up. And I was like, oh, this would be ill. Looked at the menu. I was like, I guess he could have the kale salad. But I don't know how they make the dressing. No, listen, man, all you got to do is make sure they got veggies.

As long as it's veggies, I'm good. Well, luckily, you don't have to deal with what a lot of us whites have to deal with come holiday time. A lot of us whites have some relatives with some opinions. Absolutely. Us too. Don't worry about it. And when the wild turkey gets going, they want to express them. That's how it always happens, though.

Listen, I keep telling you, man, we more alike than we think, man. I promise you, y'all, it's the same thing with my family. Like, once that alcohol get the going, the secret start coming out. But I feel like everyone from the tri-state that's white has probably an uncle or honor or whatever that either lives upstate or maybe Midwest and they come out and, like, you're feeling real democratic at dinner. Yeah. And then someone has to get their point.

They read off of Facebook this morning. And then it becomes a fucking argument. Listen, bro, I have uncle. that still argue over $100 from 1978. But those are funny. Yeah, but it's like, fam. Y'all got to put that there. He on me a hundred.

I'm like, fam, it's 2021. Like, relax. When I'm going for my second plate, I really don't want to overhear lock her up. Like, I just don't need that. Am I like, do? Can we just watch the cowboys and the lions, whoever the fuck is every single year?

I don't care. No, I didn't vote. I'm part of the problem. Leave me alone. Even if I voted, I'm not talking to you. I want to bring up politics this year. at dinner though. Just to roushing up.

Oh, but you know why? Only because I feel like, I tell people all the time, I think one of the best things that happened during the Trump presidency was more people started to pay attention to politics than before. I think more people started to like,

you know, really pay attention to what's going on. They started to get involved. And however they got the information, social media, wherever they got it from, I think more people started to pay attention to the presidency. So it's just interesting to hear like people's opinions now because more people are reading

and they're trying to figure out what is the president doing versus what they're not doing and what's going on. So it's just fun now. It's like I don't care who you voted for. That's not the topic of discussion. It's more so like what do you think is going on right now? Like are you happy with the way this presidency is going? What do you think it changed?

What did the president say he was going to do that he hasn't done? Things like that. It's just funny to hear people talk about shit like that. It's just sometimes I feel. I feel you, but I also kind of think the other way of... Maybe some people shouldn't pay attention to politics. Maybe it's ancient lane. Oh, for sure.

Maybe construction is more your lane. Some people in politics shouldn't pay attention to politics. Like, let's just be honest. Like, it's like, what do you do against, sir? Why are you here? Like, at my fucking grandmother's repast, one of my uncles was debating gender pronouns to us. And no one brought it up.

Like, we're just at a repass. He just wants to talk about how... believe I have to use these pronouns like, dog, you don't. No one's going to work. Yeah. But again, that's just because... We're in a home. There's just one bathroom. But older, older relatives, like you said, they're still on these, like, my mom sends me things. And I'm like, my, first of all, this is from six years ago.

And this is not true. This is not happening. And this was, they found that this was false. It's like they see shit and they go with it. And it's like, my, that's not real. That, they already found out that that was fake. It's not happening. Because they come from that era where whatever was said on the news or whatever is fact. Exactly. And then they sign up for Facebook not realizing anyone can post anything. And it's like, damn.

Exactly. That happens. Collusion in Russia? Exactly. That happens once a week. I promise you. Biden's Sunday what with his laptop? Yeah.

It's just like that's not, it didn't happen. That's old. First of all, that's four years ago. But it's just fun to listen to family, be around family. And even if they don't know what the hell they're talking about, it's just a great time. outside of politics, there will be the when are you going to settle down and give us some kids question? Jesus Christ.

You're getting into that age where, do they just, no, they're getting into, I'm here. I'm full-fledged here. Yeah, man, it's just, I don't know. Can we normalize not having children? I mean, I guess. Why we can't normalize that? I think traffic is bad as it is already.

Exactly. Less kids coming into the earth. Yeah, and, and I'm fine with. See, because for me, if I had a bunch of kids, right, Like, say I had just a bunch of kids running around. My family looked at me like, he, here he go, he keeps pumping them out. But the fact that I don't have any, it's still like. Can't win.

Yeah, it's like, yo, I, fam. Like, I just can't win with child. But again, man, the thing with kids with me is, you know, if I wanted kids, I could have kids. But I want a family. You said you did work is what you said. Oh, it works. Okay. I check it every morning.

It works. But it's just, you know. Are they still swimming? No, absolutely. Okay. They're still swimming. But, yeah, it's just. I just, I don't want just kids.

I don't want to just have a baby mom. Like, I want, I want, I want a family. I want to wake up. It looks fun. It looks, it looks like a fun time. That's, like, having a family looks dope, but it's hard, man. It's not easy. Well, you have less pressure.

Your sister has a child. Mm-hmm. But I'm the only one out of my sisters and brothers that doesn't have a kid. Like, I'm literally the only one. I am an only child. Mm-hmm. And I have been getting that question since I was 16. Like, my mom wanted me to be on 16 and pretext.

pregnant. Like, yo, when are the grandkids coming? I'm like, Ma, I just learned how to use this thing. I haven't mastered it yet, but I'll let you know when I get there. Yeah, man. Yeah, you are the only, yeah, so that conversation is... It's rough. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't wish that on anybody. I already know. But you have a dog. I know, no, no. Baisley now has become... My mother really treats

basically like... They all do. Like an actual human. They all do. They all moms treat their kids, dog like it's their grandchildren. Your grandchildren. which terrifies me when I actually do have kids because I don't think my mom is going to let me raise my children. I think she's going to kidnap my kids. Yeah. The way she treats Baselie and the way she's been pressuring me,

I think she just wants to have, like, more kids. Well, that's the grandparents' role is to essentially become parents again, raise kids again. Drop your kids off while you want to go do some fuck shit. They're not doing nothing else. They're home watching. What are they watching now?

I don't know what the parents watch now. Facebook. Okay. See on the Facebook. Fox News. Watch the grandkids while we go out. and make some more grandkids. That's all we're trying to do.

Go out and fornicate. Yeah, I wonder how many kids came because you was able to drop your kid off. Oh, millions. Millions. Look at the cycle. That's how old the second kids come. Yeah.

Well, and all my cousins, for the most part, have kids with their older, so my mom's already been past the great-a-a-a-a-a-a-th thing with them. Yeah, pressure's on. This Thanksgiving might get weird. Might get really weird. The pressure is on for me, though. I speak like it's not, but it is.

Like, a lot of my nieces and nephews have kids. You know what I mean? Like, I'm that. Like, where it's like a lot of my nieces and nephews have kids. And it's like, they're looking at me like, yo, oh, what's up? What you doing? I'm like, nah, neff. I'm out here running around.

I see that gray's in you. Yeah, yeah. No, I'm still free, man. I'm still out here running around. I can come and go as I please, man. That's the beauty of it, I think, though, for me. It's the fact that I don't have a bunch of baby moms running around. Like, I think that.

No. I don't. Who knows? Your kid could do Ancestry.com in 15 years and find you? Nah, nah. A woman would have definitely told me by now, like, yo, you know this is your kid. I mean, what about that time of Virginia? What are you talking about?

I'm just trying to fix. You try to find. You got to be looking at you. Like, wait, first of all, when have we ever been to Virginia together? I don't think you and I've been in Virginia. That's what I'm like, wait, what? Nah, no, never that. Nah, I don't have no kids, thankfully.

But hopefully soon. Hopefully soon. I mean, just don't pull up. It's easy. See, you see the white. Hey, boys, y'all, y'all are just crazy with y'all advice. That's how you have a child. Yeah, but that, but you can't say don't pull out like, what if it's, I'm, I'm in somebody

that I want to, I should pull out of. I mean, are you saying, don't have sex? No, see, see, now you want me to roll. This is in Vegas, Rory. This is my life. Look at all the amazing athletes that have came, because fathers rolled the dice and nutted inside somebody. Name one athlete that we got with him.

Oh, they wrote the dice. LeBron. LeBron. I was going to say, yeah, LeBron. We hear about the story all the time. But how do you, wait, all right, so let's talk about it. What story are you talking about? Like, how do you know LeBron's dad rolled the dice?

How do you know that wasn't a conversation? Because he boogie. We ain't seen him. He rolled the dice and got out of that game immediately. He lost. Oh, he definitely lost. That's like, he threw away a mega million's ticket. Yeah, that's crazy.

Yeah, no, he's definitely the biggest idiot ever walking away from that child. And, like, the way Bronn looks. I'm sure his, obviously his father looks like him. So I'm sure his dad walking around Ohio and everyone's like, that's got to be LeBron's dad. There's no way this six, nine dude is, that looks like Braun isn't his father. I can promise you, his biological dad is not walking around Ohio. What do you think is? He's somewhere trying to kill a son.

Somewhere slitting his wrist. If your son is LeBron James and you walked out of his life, it was crazy. It would have been like early to, a lot of people. making out of any child's life is crazy. We don't want to say that. But when your child turns out to be LeBron James, you got to be trying to kill yourself every day. But it was

early too. So many people make it like in their 20s and 30s and then the parents are like damn, fuck. Brian was the prodigy at 13. He boogeyed it a few years later. Like he was like fuck. Yeah, yeah, like 14. What was their last address? Yeah, your son was already the best player in the country at the age of

probably 12, 13 years old. And you were somewhere sitting around like trying to get back in it was like, nah, we're not doing that. You see where he's headed and you're trying to get back in? Nah, we're not doing that. And he's like publicly unforgiving. Oh yeah, no. Let's it be known. Yeah, he's not like, hey, listen, I can help where I can, but that relationship got men some other time. You just, yo, fuck him. Yeah. And I'm not mad. I'm not mad either. I'm mad at him at all. That's how it should be. Fuck him. So yeah, maybe if you nut and a woman that you probably wouldn't want to be with and then you buggy, maybe, you would have like some prodigy kid that

I don't want to end up like LeBron's dad. Which your jeans, he could be the greatest rapper of all time. Who knows? Yeah, but I don't want to end up like LeBron's Day. I want to be there. Is there a really good rapper from a two-parent-home? Yeah. I'm sure there is.

I don't want to hear their raps. I don't want to hear about stability. Broken home raps. I don't know. Broken home raps is different, though. Like, it's a different struggle that is in your bars when you come from a broken home, for sure. Oh, and I mean, you can hear it.

We know the rappers that, like, dog. And we're so sick. You had a really good childhood. Like, you got to relax. a little bit. And we saw like, perfect example, eight mile when he found out that rabbit went to, when he found out that Papa Doc found out that, uh,

uh, Papa Doc found out that, uh, he went to a private school and all of that. Oh yeah. It was like, why is that a shot? By the way, his parents cared. Like, I do know some killers that went to private school, but I was great to say, like, it's like people, people look at me like, because we wore uniform at my school, so they think it was

like private and privileged. I'm like, fam, it was killers in my school. It's dudes right now that I was in school with that are like locked up. Go tell the kids at Cardinal Hayes, they privileged. This is what I'm saying. So I don't never, I never understood why that was a shot. I'm like, the parents cared, try to put their kids in the best position to receive a good education.

Why is that a shot at the kid? But then, but also, you can't say that and then say you got it out the mud. I never, first of all, I never say that. I'm not saying you say rappers. I don't agree with that, though. I want to see some of these rappers mud. A lot of the mud ain't mud. It's not that.

muddy, bro. It's not muddy, but I don't like when rappers do that only because I feel like it's, um, it's kind of disrespectful to their parents. Oh, for sure. You know what I mean? Like, saying that you came from nothing and like, I just never, I understood, you know, situations be fucked up and, but I just never like to, I don't like when rappers say that because my thing is always, you know, my mom had two jobs. And I could easily say, you know, we struggled. I don't, I never, I didn't feel like I struggled. Yeah. You know what I mean? Like, I didn't, I don't, I don't ever remember a time where I didn't eat at night. I never remember a time where I didn't have clothes and shit like that.

So what I know now as an adult, my mom bust her ass. So I can never sit in the way and say I came from nothing or I got it out to, no, I don't. And I'm pretty sure, you know, other people too, their parents worked hard and maybe they couldn't have those one pair of sneakers and now they feel like they came from the mud. Like, what's the mud? Like, something happened to you where it was like all the other kids got to go on a field trip and then you couldn't go because your mom couldn't pay the little field. whatever, and now you feel like, y'all came from nothing?

Like, fan, that's not coming from nothing. A kid, at least from my era and your era, having multiple sneakers as a kid was not a thing. No, it wasn't. And I was not poor. Right. I am multiple sneakers. Absolutely. It just, you had a pair or two.

Absolutely. And they had to last for the school year. Exactly. Your mom made sure, yo, these are your play sneakers. And these are your, you know, when you're going out sneakers. Like, that's all. But, like, say, with rabbs, like, I came from the mud. And then you see that mom, like, his mom was a doctor.

Now, like, what mud did you come from your? Your mom was a doctor. Like, what are you talking about? Yo, God rest his dad with big. Listen and ready to die before, like, watching interviews and shit about Valletta Wallace. Like, what a sweet woman. Come on, fan. What an amazing supportive mother.

Like, wait, we got to start. Like, let's just start rappers. Let's start keeping it real. A lot of us come from families and households where parents are doing okay. Got some money. Not a lot, but, you know, food is on the table every night. You got clothes on your back, things like that. And you just grow up into a teenager and you start hanging around with a different crew.

And you fall into trying to hustle and sell. But you didn't have to do that. No. Like, let's not make it. Like, rappers got to start putting things in perspective. You didn't have to do that. You chose to do that. I sold weed in high school because I wanted to.

Exactly. But that's what most is. My mother was going to have dinner on the table. That's what I'm saying. You wasn't selling crack to feed your family. Stop, man. Cut it out. Like, that shit does not happen.

And I've got to check the age on some of these rappers that are rapping about crack. Yeah. Crack wasn't even really a thing. Past 98? Like, you really wasn't getting it with crack. Yeah, no, I don't want to hear that. Crack talk after 98. I don't want to hear that shit.

You wasn't chef and crack. There was like one or two people that was still smoking crack in the mid-2000s. Yeah, it might be one or two people now to this day that's still smoking. But as far as saying, we was all hustling crack. No, you was not. That wasn't even the thing. It was weed. Now it's pills.

It's lean and all this other. this shit. Crack is definitely out of there. What's, what's like the, who's like the fentanyl Jeezy? Who's getting the fentanyl for 17. Bro, I don't know. I don't know. And I don't want to joke about it. I don't know, but that's a, that right there is not something for the, for people to be playing with. That shit, that's a dangerous, dangerous thing. And I'm, I hope that none of these rappers are stupid enough to really be touching that shit. I mean, because a lot of these rappers now, you know, they like to, they like to still be doing this dumb shit after they get a deal. See, before it was different.

Like a lot of the, you know, artists, they had to hustle or whatever before they got a deal. But once they got the deal, that shit was over with. A lot of these young dudes now, when they're talking about drilling and spending the, they are actively doing this. It's like, fam, you have, a company has invested millions into your stardom. And you're still out here spinning the block, running down on ops and those other stupid shit. I mean, listen, man, calling me getting old. I just don't understand. I thought after you got the deal, that's when all of that shit stopped.

I mean, a lot of them are doing it after. I'm after the deal for real. Like they didn't do it before. Like a lot of those Chicago rappers, you know, like, that was in their DNA before. They just happened. Unfortunately. I know.

Very unfortunate. They just happen to be rhyming words. Right. But with a lot of that culture that everyone is taken from Chicago musically and slang and words and I see the whole rest of the country doing that shit at like, no, dog, you got the deal. People do that to get to the deal. Don't do it after you get the deal.

Right. Yeah. I never understand. I'm like, I understand living your rap's and wanting to, but it's like, after the deal, bro, that's just not smart. That's just not a smart. It's like, bro, you have a deal. The company has invested in you and saying, hey, we believe in you.

We're giving you this opportunity. You don't then take that opportunity and decide, yo, I'm going to run around with a gun every day and if I see an op, I'm running down. Like, it's like, first, and we got to get into who's really, who's really your op? Like, we got to, it's a lot of things in that. We just say shit and we just run with shit. And it's like, all right, who is really your op?

In so many cases, men in the op thing is like the girl version of all these bitches hating on me. And a girl has not said a word yet. Like, I have all these haters. Like nobody said nothing. Nobody's hating. Nobody even really knows you. Yeah.

Like, what are we talking? It's just like we perpetuate a lot of bullshit in our culture that we need to really have honest and open discussions about. Because it's like when I see these young, yeah, the ops to ops. why is that your op you should do a op-ed on ops I should

a opumentary hey let's set it up let's set it up I want to do oprimony I want to actively start finding these rappers and say okay

who's your ops let's discuss this and let's discuss why y'all are ops because I'm pretty sure it's a simple conversation and you really find out y'all really do fuck with each other

y'all like each other or I want to find your ob and ask him if he knows you exist yeah or does he know that he's your op because he can be like No, I don't even know what that is. Like, it's like we got to really start having these conversations.

I promise you, we perpetuate a lot of bullshit that is not real in our culture. I promise you we do. Saman, it sounds trendy on the internet. Set it up, Carl. It's doing. Opumentary coming soon. It's coming soon. It's going to be a three-part series, too.

Why three? Yeah, because it's a lot of shit. We got to get to a lot of shit, Rory. It's a lot of shit we got to uncover. Where are we starting this? Opumentary. Right. No, I want to start in the Bronx.

Where I'm from. I mean, there's probably some ops in the Bronx. Yeah, but I mean, a lot of dudes be saying they got ops and they don't. For sure. So it's like, I just want to stand outside with them and walk around. I'm like, where they are? You're going to be the op. No, I'm not.

Listen, I got the camera. Carl got the camera. I got the mic. I just want to know where the ops? Where are they? I just want to know how it's going to go over in the Bronx of Carl with a camera and Maul asking, yo, where's your op? You might need some security for that.

Listen, man, I know where to go and what time to get out of it. Let me tell you that. One thing about the. Bronx, I know where to go and we're time to get out. That's how you move in the hood. Where are you going and what time you're leaving? Go on. No, no, I need to know these things.

I'm just telling you, I know how to move in the Bronx. Certain areas, we're just not going to go. We're just going to take their word for it. There's ops over there. Because unfortunately, the friend of the op is usually the one that gets the brunt of the bullshit. So I have to be prepared as your co-host. Listen, what we're trying to do is we're trying to actively bring peace into the community

through finding that you gentlemen really don't have an issue with each other. Because I am tired of walking outside and having, from our old show, people coming up to me, when I didn't say a word, someone else on the show said a word, and I got to explain it with you

and your money bags with them. Me. Look at the type of shit I bring in the Roy's like, I'll leave money bags on the picture and now people are approaching you about it. Okay. You know what? No, no, no.

Let's actually have a real conversation. I think we could talk about this. We can talk about anything, word. This is our platform. I had a gentleman run down on me at a Donda show because of more. Oh, man. Jesus Christ. I'll put it this way.

If you catch the pun. I was very stressed out. I really know how it feels to be stressed out, stressed out. Listen. When you're face to face with your adversity. See, that's what I'm saying. That's not an op-a-mind, though. I have no problem with that gentleman.

Listen, let's start with the bullshit. It was consequence. Okay. We had said on our reply video, you had brought up the situation that had happened. Which I apologize for, because I really shouldn't have said his name in that video. And I apologized to him. I DMed him about that. You know, I was just going off and it was emotions were high.

But I apologize for even saying his name. But he took that and took it another way. And it was like, bro, I don't have an issue with you. I apologize for even saying your name. And it was like at that time, you popped on who I thought was. a friend of mine. Yeah. And I was just defending my friend.

Like, that's all. He had a problem with that. I think just bringing it up again. Yeah. And I'll say it again. I apologize. I should have never said his name during that whole thing. And that was,

that was corny in me and that was stupid of me. And, you know, it happens. You know what I love about consequence? Because you had told me that you guys had squashed it via D. I squashed it. I thought it was squashed. So you told me he had a talk with you. So I've watched the fucking Donda show.

And I feel him come up to be. And it was loud. So I was like, what he was saying. And I was like, I thought you in Mall squash that shit. And this is why I love cons. He said, yeah, but we ain't squash it. See, that's so sad.

It's like, what are we talking about, man? It's squads. Like, it's no issue. We have no issue with cons. At all, love. Queens. Love consequence. We had a conversation.

It was just funny. When he said that, I had to, like, laugh. But see, if I was a rap with, if I was a rap with, very Linden. Yeah. It might have turned into, that's my heart. See how fast that goes? It's like, it's really not my op. Like, I have no problems with this gentleman.

Like, it was stupid shit in the past, and that's over it. And then when he brought the situation up, I was like, fam, I was in, like, high school when that happened. Right, you was nowhere around. Like, see, now that I think about it, just thinking about you in that situation, trying to even talk about that is hilarious to me because it's like you were nowhere to be found.

You were super young when that happened. Yeah. And it's like, as a man now, you're sitting here having to have this talk about this shit. Yeah, man. And on top of that, I'll name drop. Where we were standing in our little thing, Kanye West is right there performing. Dave Chappelle and Jay Electronica are right there.

And then who's the least most important person in there. Then there's Rory sitting there. And then consequence comes to talk to me about a podcast. I'm like, Doug, I'm in the presence of Dave Chappelle right now. I'm with my brother, Jay, Electronica. And I have no idea what's going on. And I'm watching this beautiful fucking show. Yeah.

Oh, my, only in our culture, man. I promise you. This shit is so crazy, man. Yeah. That's the thing in the past. It's all of. Shout out to all parties involved. Listen, shout out to Con.

It was a fun. Shout out to Jay Lex. Shout out to everybody, man. Fuck it. Jay Leck, look over. Like, what? Do you know, Con? I was like, I've never met in my life.

It's the most random thing. It's like, what is happening? Like, and that's why I was stupid for that. I should have never said that. But it's okay. I apologize for having to put you in that situation, Rory. I didn't want that for you in your life, man. I'm sorry.

It was one of the most interesting nights. No, you... Of the just that entire night. That was just one of the small things. You called me and we laughed about it. I couldn't believe what you would tell. I was like, what is happening right now in Atlanta, man? But, oh, man.

That's our new change subject. Please don't play that again. Like when we get out of a topic to get to the next one, we'll just... Like a new topic just flew in. It's like the news. That sounds like Real, that sounds like the power ranges

when they had to like when it was morphin time. Like if we go from Consequence story into different strokes live. Can we talk about that? Is that really happening?

Different strokes is back. Facts of Life is back. Reenactments. Kevin Hart is playing Gary Coleman or Arnold rather. Kevin Hart, I love you. You were very supportive publicly.

He was, yes. For Rory and myself. Love you forever for that. Genius at what you do. One of the greatest comedians, one of the greatest comedic actors probably ever. And a really good actor, because I see that Kevin is starting to do more serious roles,

too. He's trying to stray away from just comedic actor. But I like the one with Brian Cranston. It was a good movie. Yeah. But go ahead, shit on. Yeah, I don't know about this one. This doesn't feel real.

It feels like a bad S&L sketch where they would like try to, let's do a reboot and it would be a parody. I think Damon Wayne's playing Willis. What's happened? What is, all right. These are grown men. So was Gary Coleman. No. Rest in peace.

But like, it's aesthetic. It's just not, we don't need. Nobody. We don't need this. Kevin Hart doesn't look like a child Gary Coleman looks like a child This is what I'm but we don't need No who asks for different strokes

Is it live? In front of a live studio Onset audience I believe Yeah So they're shooting this for TV Yes Yeah Do you think they'll reenact

The episode where Arnold Almost gets touched by the neighborhood molester I want to see I want to see Kevin Hart really pull that one out I would love to see Kevin Hart Hart play that role Like in that moment But we didn't ask for this though

Like I don't even even understand why they would get with who put the budget behind it ABC apparently who who's playing uh philip drumming and what was um shorty's name the sister i don't even remember is the entire cast of different strokes passed away no no no who's still alive uh oh wow willis died young i know the girl died young i wish we had their names apologies for this but i feel like the whole cast has passed away, which is also weird that you would kind of just make what seems to be a parody of such a great show. I just don't know who, this is not something that I think we need.

I know we didn't ask for it. I didn't see like the public really saying, yo, we need different strokes. So I just don't understand. And look, it may be, it may turn out to be great. You know what I mean? Like, Kevin Hart knows more about Hollywood than I know. Like in the, you know what I mean? You said Damon Wayne is in it as well.

I believe he knows more by Hollywood than we do it. Listen, they may make some great shit, man, but I just don't, just like looking at it, like, and reading the names and different strokes. I don't, we didn't ask for them. I like the cast if they just did something else. Oh, no, 1,000. Damon Wayne's and Kevin Hart in the movie together. I'm cool.

I love it. I'll support that. But different strokes? I got to see what you're talking about with us. Yeah, it's just not. So, wait, okay Are they supposed to be adults now? Is that the spin on this different strokes?

Oh, maybe that could be it. Okay. They're now adults. But Kevin Hart, well, yeah, I guess Gary Coleman wasn't a little piece of a little kid. So yeah, I guess that could work. What do you think Willis turned out to be in the show? Um,

my guess would be, uh, maybe like a lawyer. Willis was lawyerish. Yeah. Maybe like a lawyer. And he went back to Harlem to clean up the hood. Yeah. I can see that terrible storyline. He has his practice in Harlem trying to teach people about the laws or the communities.

Yeah, I can see that. Mr. Drummond still won't go up there. No. Yeah. I mean, if they're trying to spend it like that now that they're grown men and all of that, then okay. But I still, it's still weird. It would be very funny if they did it in modern time. with gentrification and like they took willis and arnold from the projects and they actually just went across the street to the new uh skyline building that's in harlem yeah if they play if they play if they play with it like that then you know it may be interesting um i'm open to being wrong like i said these gentlemen know more about hollywood obviously than we do and more about acting than we do so i mean maybe they got some some some great writers maybe i mean damon wanes and kevin hard is hard for them not to be funny so i mean you know i just

don't, it's just different strokes and thinking about what different strokes is and was and trying to see it now and then attaching Damon Way and Kevin Hart. It's just kind of weird. Like, I can't really, I can't see it. But again, I could be wrong and this could turn out to be one of the funniest shows on television. I mean, facts of life as well. Carl, does it say who's in the facts of life? Did they give that set roster? Yeah, it says, um, Adam Sandler. Why you know Adam out there like that? Kevin James and David Spade It says John Lickgo

Will be Mr. Drummond Well that's for different strokes Yeah for the fact of life Oh well This is going to be interesting And I think it airs December 7 So they had to shoot the shit Those are some big names

Hell yeah John Liffgoe Damon Wayne's Kevin Hart I don't know man I'm gonna give it a chance Yeah me too Like I said, it's going to be funny. You know, Damon Williams and Kevin Hart, it's going to be funny, but just looking at it right now, just trying to picture it.

I can't see it. It's just a little weird, but I'm open to checking out a couple episodes, and then I'll let you know. Well, yeah, we'll keep you guys locked on the different strokes. But right now it just sounds a little weird. It feels a little weird. Music. Rory, what is that? I'm making it a thing.

Okay, my bad. It's our thing now. I'm going to support you in this little sound effect. And, like, Carl's going to put cool, like, imagery of, like, beams, like, okay. Of, like, topics just falling from the sky. Okay. All right, cool. Yeah, it's going to be all shit.

Listen, man, I'm, listen, I'm down to see it. Yeah. If it looks crazy, we'll cut it out for the next, for the next episode. Wait a thing. Adele put out an album. See, we're getting, like, real professional on this shit. Okay, got you. We don't want to do the casual shit anymore.

How do you feel? Did it draw any emotions? Did it make you feel, like, any different towards Rich Paul? Do you hate him? He made Adele happy? Is the music's suffering now? The art suffering because Adele's happy? No, it was a good balance.

There was definitely some sad girl anthems on there. Okay. She didn't go full-blown happy. I did get in the proper listen to Adele mode, which I'm going to be vulnerable with you. I did set up some candles and I did have a soak. I did get in the tub. Put some Epsman salt in there.

Dr. Teals. Some bubbles. First of all, don't ever look at me and said you took a soap. I had a soak. I had a soak. I can't let you go out like this. Who are you becoming, man? I'm old, man.

My knees hurt. I have a broken rib. Like, I needed soaks sometime. And when I was setting up for the soak. Oh, man. I was like, oh, Adele put out of an album. What a perfect type of album to just, like, lay back in the bathtub. You know, you go all the way to, like, just where your chin is?

Uh-huh. When you really start feeling the music. Yeah, yeah, no, I got you. I want to talk more about this. You're preparing. We're going to get to the Adele out. I promise you, because I love Adele. But let's get more to the, how do you set up.

up your soak. Like, what are you doing? Like, walk me through this. Not that I want to think about you soaking, because I don't. But just walk me through it just so I could see weird. Just picture as if I had a bathing suit on. Okay. I don't want to picture that either. I don't want to picture that either, but I, you my guy. I'm secure on my own skin. Go ahead. You stop by your local winery.

Okay. Get yourself some twist off chardonnay, though. You can't. Yes. That cheaper wine brings out shittier emotions because there's like more sugar in there. Yeah. So it really rises your emotion level. Don't get the expensive Chardonnay. It has to be twist off. So cheap Chardonnay.

Absolutely. Okay, got it. Wait, check when sunset is happening. Okay. If you want to time it in that capacity, I don't know if your bathroom has a view of the sunset. But option B is to do it at night. You find the right lighting. I don't know if that means maybe you just turn on one closet light all the way down the hall.

Yeah. Just so you have some type of. Or candles? Listen, man, if we're going to go there, let's go there, Rory. Candles. Always set the bath a little bit hotter than you can handle because water does cool off eventually and you want to soak. You want to be in there for a while.

We're in here for a whole Adel album. It has to get into the tendons. For sure. Okay. You lay down some Epsons salt, which you can get at Amazon. You can get it at your local store. Line it just so it covers the bottom a bit. Okay.

Start running the water. Don't throw the bubbles in right away. You got to let it go get to like a quarter just so that Epson salt can really get into the water. So when we're coming. Gotcha. And then you need to, say, probably use about half of the bubble bath. Okay. Because bubbles do deteriorate as well.

So you want to use half a bottle of bubble bag? And a full bottle of shardinette. On one soak. Half a bottle. Absolutely. Wealth. Go ahead. Yes.

So you want to make sure you have a rag next to the bathtub, not just for tears, but also because you want to be able to control the music while you're taking the soak. Okay. You got to wipe your hands off and your hands get wet. Maybe go through some old text messages. Maybe if you have a shared folder with your ex-girlfriend, you want to run through some of those photos. Yeah. If you're really wealthy and you have a projector,

top of the wall, run through your entire photo album. Okay, got you. I see what you're going with it. Okay, so you're setting the mood. So this sounds like you were making Irish stew. Can we call this Irish stew? For sure. Yeah, this sounds like an Irish stew.

You prepped the hot water. You got it to a boiling temperature. What you did with the Epsom soles, you added some seasoning. Absolutely. Added some seasoning. It was like Shepherds pie. Yeah, I see what you're going with. Okay, so you made Irish stew.

So now when you're soaking and you're on your phone, do you, let's say, think about an old flame and maybe send her a picture your feet in the water and say, hey, life is great. How do you get back into the old day? I mean, you got to put the old flame just her and your close friends. Yeah. Just her and your close friends.

Hey, and I'm in your close friends. Let me tell you right now, if I see you soaking in the tub and you're completely I'm screenshot that shit and I'm putting it out. Like, yo, look with this nasty man. It's doing it close friends. Side note. I posted last night a picture of. Basley sleeping and reason is in my close friend. Friend is a show. My God reason. Yeah. He cursed you out.

He, he DM me a very valid question. It probably was something I wanted to ask you. Why does Basley sleep on God have been got to be in your close friends? Why the world can't see this? Yo, I saw that and I was like, I said, my God, I think he, I don't think he got the close friend shit down pat yet. Because it would be shit of your close friends barely chasing a toy. I'm like, I'm like, basically, why has Basley chasing the toy. I'm like, Rory, the world could see your dog chasing a toy. Okay. But there's hoes in my close friends. It's very calculated. Okay. They may feel like, they don't know that there's 85 people in my close friends. Yeah, yeah, they don't know. They have no idea. To them I could just be only five. Yeah.

It's like you're my mom. Yeah. So yeah, it's a very calculated post. Okay. As you see, there is Basley content for the world to see. That's like my only fans for Basley. Like you got to be in the close friends to really get to see her in those vulnerable positions. in the bath. God, please no. Don't ever post that. But okay, I got you. So you made the Irish stew.

You had a great time. You had a Dell playing. I put one person into my close friends. Okay. Made it look like, you know, life was really beautiful. Absolutely got you. Angled the camera because who knows, there could be another person in the tub.

Maybe you just don't see it. You got to leave some thought for them thinking, did he replace me? Ah, yes. Try to get him jealous a little bit. Okay. I got you. So you had Adele playing.

Yeah. and what did you think? Like, the fact that you were taking a soak, did you hear the music differently? Were you able to receive the melodies and the harmonies a little differently? I did. I felt like the album was written in a bathtub.

Okay. She wrote that while she was soaking and reflecting. Possibly, yes, I could see that. Rich, no, I can't see that, Rich. I'm sorry. Rich, my God, no, I can't see Adele soaking in the tub. Go ahead, Rory. I think maybe Rich at some point

did the close friends move when maybe they were having a fight and Adele saw it and that kind of inspired at least three or four of these records Okay But no jokes aside The album is really good

It's very good I didn't get a chance to listen to it yet I've seen all the women posting about it But I am going to check it out While I'm traveling this week To me that's the best time Listen to music Why you traveling road trip

Like I think you hear music differently You receive it differently It's not too much going on That's distracting you so Yeah I'm gonna check it out Well you're sicker than me then What traveling listening to music? You think that's sticking and soaking

You're making Irish stew Listening to Listening to Adele in the bathtub Makes way more sense than saying Hey, bros, let's go on a road trip And throw on the Adele album Whoa, I didn't say it was gonna be bros I didn't say it was gonna be me

By myself You're crying on 95 Traveling to see family Yeah Like sometimes you gotta cry Why you driving down the turnpike That's dangerous No it's not

You just gotta blink A hundred times real quick And then you know Wash the tears away Open the window But yeah that's to me That's the best time Listen to music

Have you ever cried over a woman? Over what? Have you ever cried over a woman? No. Cried over a woman? You're cool. I don't know. Like, you've actually cried like tears.

I don't think I've had actually real tears now. Yeah, I'm about to say, I can't see you doing it. No. See, Rory, we're more like than you want to give us credit for, bro. You'd be trying to make it seem like my shit is crazy for not getting super emotional by women. You don't get upset. You'll be hurt.

But you're not crying. Tears are not streaming down your face. No, I go into sociopath mode. I get numb and just something sick shit. That's your thing. Yeah. What mode do I go into? I get numb, but I don't, I don't, I wouldn't say sociopath.

I just, I get, I isolate myself because I feel like I don't want to, I don't want that energy to transfer to the wrong person if I, you know, around the wrong people. And it's like, damn, that's not even meant for you. Yeah. I'm going through something else, dealing with something else. And now some of that energy hits you. Like, so I isolate myself until that moment has passed. And then I'm back to being social and chilling with the, with the crew. And that takes what?

hour for you? 45. You know what I mean? 40, 45 minutes, you know, once I discover a new hollet on Instagram, I'm back in a lot.

Of course, yeah. I'm back. New money bags. Don't worry about it. I don't want to see your heart get crushed, but I do want you to kind of have that experience in a relationship.

Of, dealing with, like, what, heartache? Yeah. It gives you new perspective on things. Oh, no, absolutely. I mean,

but you, I don't even think you have to be in a relationship. Like, I'm weird. I don't even have to be in a relationship to have heartache. Okay. Like if I meet a woman... You'll be loving these bitches.

Not loving them, but I like them a lot. Like, I like them almost right there to the point of love. Yeah, yeah. Not really, but it's like, y'all like her. But it's, um... Sometimes you find a girl that you like and in liking her and then getting to know her. You start to learn things about her that you're like, oh, man, why are you? Like, that type of shit hurts me.

Did you see a meme and ran to send it to her and realized she's not your meme friend anymore? No, but... when you can't like when you're out of fighting or about to break up or broken up like you got a stash of memes that you saw all day that you was ready to get the clip off you like damn yeah I can't even send that happens TikTok yeah that's a real thing because on Instagram like once I see that women are like in relationships like really happy you want to follow them no no I don't no I don't go that for I do but I make sure that I don't post any uh I don't drop any money bags under their picks no more oh I'm noble of you

yeah because well I've had I've had recent situations with the guys have told me they fill away about that. And I'm like, well, damn, I didn't know that that was disrespectful. No, you're very honorable. Yeah, I didn't know that was considered money bags is disrespectful? Like, if it's hard eyes, that's different. But money, so it's like, once I see that, it's like, all right, you know, she got a boyfriend now. So it's like, just keep it moving on.

You're going to stay out, stay out the DMs. Not the DMs, because I rarely jump into a deal. And I don't even, it's not even a DM. I respond to stories. I don't just, I said, damn, you tried to talk to her. If I responded to a story. Y'all used to talk or you tried. Okay.

I guess that's where we had in the world with it now. I'm with you. You give like a LOL? Do you give a real response? You know what I hate doing? The surveys. I hate, I mean, that's when you're really feeling somebody. But she would like, short hair along.

You be like, short. It's like, I'm corny. Why did I just? You answer the survey and then go into the DMs to explain your answer a little bit more. Yeah. Yeah, like that's corny, man. I'll be doing that sometimes. I got to stop that shit, man.

That's not corny, man. It is corny. Why? You can't, like, a survey? Of course you can. You can't answer a survey, Rory. You cannot answer some. From a girl that you think is hot?

Yeah. No, man, don't do that. She's given the opportunity from, finally, I get to give her some feedback. No, you got to stand. No, no, fuck that. Because I'm going to, you know what I'd be wanting to do? I'd be wanting to find out what the common answer is. And then shit on that.

Like, yo, they bugging. They don't know what they talk about. But there's no way to see that. I suppose. You know what I'm saying? But no, you can't answer service. Fellas, don't answer surveys. Don't listen to Roar it.

You can't do that? Do you think Tevin Campbell, can we talk? Is considered street harassment? Could he get that off in 2020? No. I would say now, no. That's harassment now. I feel like Chris Brown in the Yo video

that was kind of street harassment too. That was definitely street harassment. But it's only... Are we going to have a real conversation here? He was simping a little bit. A lot of bit. Tevin, he was a child. He was 15.

That's why he didn't get it. he was 15 and he didn't even like women Quince he was sick Kevin was sick Kevin was sick He was sick You was trying to talk to this girl

You don't even like girls Tevin Camden Camden was sick He was in the booth like Quince Something I should let you know Yo Tevin Camber was sick Great vocalist One of the greatest vocalists You ever had in our culture

But Tevin you were sick for that man You were a sick guy man That's hysterical That's hilarious actually Are we leaving any of that? Yeah, leave it all Sure We don't think that you actually think

You should harass women To find out if they like you No, no But again, it's only harassed And it's tough man Because perfect example Last night We was at the show

And a friend of mine I'm not gonna say a name But a friend of ours Came up to me and was like Oh, Ma, you didn't bring no girl with you This is the perfect date night I, uh, uh, yeah. And I'm like, why would I bring a girl with me to Tiana Taylor show?

I mean, because they're all going to want you when you get there. She was like, what do you mean? I said, look around. It's 2,700 women in here. But they are there to see Tiana. They're not there to see more. Cool, that's fine. But it's like, I'm not bringing a woman with me.

Well, did you find one that you liked there? No, and I wasn't going there to find a woman. Like, I'm not saying that either, but it's kind of like, I just thought it was weird. Like, to ask me why didn't I bring a woman to a Tiana Taylor show? Is Bobby Valentino slow down street harassment? Um. He was in the video was legitimately following a woman down the street saying slow down. Yeah, but it's only...

That pretty brown, round thing or whatever fuck he was saying. Like, that's... Yo, slow down so I can see your ass, ma. Hey, but look, it's only harassment, like I said, if she's not feeling you. And you don't know if she's not feeling you... Oh, us. until you harassed. But you got to ease into the,

I want to see your round brown ass. You got to ease into that one. You can say, hey, maybe slow down. And if she doesn't slow down, shut the fuck up. Yeah, no,

I get it. I get it. I mean, all jokes aside. Like, you definitely shouldn't harass one. Of course that. We totally just joking about that.

But that's an interesting thing. And I think we need to have a woman on here. Talk about that. Like, where's the fun in that? Because it's, no, I think we can have a lot of fun with it because it's like,

yo, how does a guy? I know if like he's at the point or trying to talk to you where you're like, okay, stop talking to me. Unless, like, nowadays, some woman straight out say it, like, you'll leave me alone. For sure. Once a woman says leave me alone, fellas, leave her alone.

But if a woman doesn't, you can still kind of be annoying her. But, you know, for whatever reason, women have been through things with, you know, corny dudes is they get disrespectful if the woman is not interested. They've been harmed when they... Yeah, those are like, those are the type of... dudes that, you know, I wish we could just press a button and just like get rid of all

of those type of clowns. But you really don't know because, again, now how do you even meet a woman? Like, I don't talk, I think I spoke about this before. I don't even approach women on the street. I can see a beautiful woman and I wouldn't even approach her because I feel like, again, she's gorgeous, beautiful, whatever, she's walking. I'm pretty sure hundreds of men have tried to talk to this young lady today. And she probably is on her way to go do something.

I doubt she's just going for a stroll looking for men. She's busy. She's going to work. She's coming from work. Wherever she's going, she's minding her business going through her day. So it's hard because, you know, you see a woman and you're attracted. So you're like, damn, like I would like to get to notice women. Like she's attractive.

You know, she looks like she has her shit together. She looks nice. She looks like she's walking with a purpose. She's going somewhere or coming from somewhere. You kind of just want to, can we talk for a minute? I just want to know your name, interested. But, yeah, it's tough because, again, you don't know what's considered, you know, you know too much now as far as conversation like you might be annoying her you might be

you know getting on her nerves and shit like that you don't you don't ever want to do that I don't never want to feel like I'm getting on anybody's nerves I guess we got to understand that not every place in the world is meant for you to meet and talk to a woman absolutely like there's places where you just got to be like well this is just not the time or place to try to talk I just got to let this one go yeah I mean the last time I met like a woman publicly and like we actually started like kicking it and like having a comment conversation, it still was through me knowing someone she was with. Yeah.

You understand what I'm saying? Like we were all kind of just in the same spot and then she ended up knowing somebody that was with. But that was like the last time. Like I don't, I just don't, you can say hello. The friend referral mutual friend thing will definitely help you skip some steps. Oh, that's the greatest shit in the world. And there's nothing better than hanging out with a girl.

Or not with a girl, but like hanging out somewhere and it's a girl that you're attracted to that's there. and then the next day your home girl hit you like, yo, my friend was feeling you. That's the greatest shit in the world. Oh, for sure. That feeling right there is like undefeated because you're like, damn, I don't even know

if I was going to ever see her again. Come to find out she was feeling you the same way you're feeling her. You looked ill because she wasn't thirsty. The greatest. That's the greatest win. That's the greatest victory in the world like this. Oh, you're so easy to be around. Until they get to know you?

Oh, yeah. Then you realized, oh, this was just a facade. Oh, absolutely. That was my representative. I'm very difficult to you around. Yeah, that was my representative. if you met that night. This is the real me.

Give it a month. You'll be irritated. I actually don't like you like that. I've never seen, even with, I have to know people that do the street harassment, cat call shit. I've legitimately,

I've legitimately never seen it work. No, why is it still like that? It's never worked. But usually people, when they approach women with the same thing, you know, the fucking definition of insanity is doing the same thing,

expecting different results. That since I've never seen it work. When has a woman ever respond to a cat call? Like, Oh, hey. It's never worked. The success rate on that is very low. I've never even seen like a respectful cat call work.

Like, hey, you look very beautiful today. Would you like to talk? I've never seen that work. That doesn't work either. That's what I'm saying. So it's very rare that it works, number one. It's stupid if you do it and then she doesn't want to talk to you, you start cursing out. I've seen that a lot.

That's just so corny. Because now she doesn't, it's not interested she's a bitch. Like, that's just stupid. The arrogance of the smile police is always funny to me too. Yeah. Shorty's not smiling. You think you're going to be the other one?

I promise you. You are not the guy that's good to make this young lady smile. She didn't walk out the house upset and then saw your face and was like, oh, smile. Thank God. The day has changed.

I'm so glad I bumped into you on this corner like you are the reason that I'm going to smile today. I will say it happened to me at our live show when we was taking pictures afterwards. And I, of course, I've never told a woman to smile

because that's corny. Yeah. But I've heard women say how often that happens to them and how makes them feel. And I don't know how to smile in pictures. I don't know what to do in pictures. I was like terrible. This woman that I was taking a photo with said,

can you smile? And I was like, oh, that didn't feel good. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, who the fuck is you? Yeah, like, what do you mean? Can I smile? Like, I don't know.

I don't want to smile. Yeah, what the fuck? Yeah, that's true. I like women like that, though. A lot of our women listeners, like, they're like that. Oh, they're like. They know so much about us.

Yes. Or they think they know so much about us when they finally meet us. It's just like smile or give me a hug or... I feel like most of our women listeners definitely have a lot of older brothers. They're that type of girl. For sure. Or they have guys that they introduce.

Because we met a lot of women like that in LA I did. I met like four women where they said they introduced, no, the guy that they were dating introduced them to the show. Now they're no longer with the guy, but they still watch the show. I might feel the way if I was that guy. Why would you? I'm one of those guys that don't.

If I introduce you to a restaurant and we break up, don't you ever go to that restaurant again. Valid. I'm with you on that. So, nah, if I introduce you to the podcast, you can't go to a live show. This is my, when we break up, we have to split the town and half.

Okay. Rory and all's side of town is mine. Okay. You can't go there. I'm with you. If we break up, you can't, you can't be liking the same things that I put you on to, and you can't be putting your new dude on to that. No. That's a rule. I think that's a rule. Unless she was at the show, just put him in her close friends and posted a photo of the show. I'm trying to think outside of Adele, I know Kate Trinada put out a three-pack with her Thundercat and Ma'amie, which I thought was cool. That's called Intimidated. And I champion anything, Kate Renata.

So I was super excited. I love Kate Renata. Yeah, I didn't really get into too much new music this weekend. I know that, uh, Ross is coming Not The 10th or the 4th?

Yeah, I think Interesting to that I spoke to Wile About it when we were in L.A. I asked him, you know, how is it sounding But he said he didn't hear none of the He's not sure what Ross is using on this project Okay The last time I think he said he sat with Ross

And Ross played some music It was like five months ago, I think he said. So I'm excited to hear this project. I just hope. I like the record he got with 21 Savage. I'm not mad at it. I just hope that I'm hoping that

Ross doesn't fall into this this thing where a lot of my favorite rappers sometimes seem to fall where they don't, they stop pause growing. And I hope Ross doesn't fall into that

because, you know, you know how I feel about Ross. One of my favorite rappers ever. One of my favorite artists ever. But I kind of feel like, you know, the music. music might not be growing.

Yeah. You know what I mean? And I don't want, I don't want Ross to get, to get stuck in that box because I think he's so dope of an MC and a rapper. But either way, I'm gonna support it.

I love Ross. To me, he hasn't made a whack project yet. No, I don't think so. He's given, he's giving away some of the greatest mixtapes that we've had,

you know what I mean? A lot of people don't talk about that either when it comes to Ross. A lot of the free shit that he's giving us. He's giving us some projects that I was like, how is he just throwing these records out? Like, it was crazy. Some of the, some of the features he had.

I was just like, he's just giving us away. So, yes, I just don't want to, I just don't want him to fall into that redundant down. Well, with Ross, like, we always talk about, like, Dan, which Ross would, like, EP and Nas' album or EP this person. Because we all know he's a great beat picker. And I feel like because he is in that formula he's so good at is why he does it. And I think maybe even though he's one of the best beat pickers and really good at EP in albums. maybe he needs someone else to EP it so he can get out of

because he's going to stay in that formula and it's going to sound great so it's like he's going to sit in the studio and be like we're not putting this out because it's going to sound good but it's going to probably be similar to what the other albums were I think someone else needs to sit with Ross

and be like yo you just focus on rapping right like I know how your EP brain works where you're focusing on beats and features like Ross just go rap and it's um you know it's not a knock because naturally you're going to have your sense Yeah.

And you're going to sound like yourself. But the music can still grow. The content can still grow. You know, and I just don't want, I just hope that with this new project, I hope that Ross is changing his sound, changing his content. Because, again, you know, he's one of those artists that can do that. And he has a lot going on in his personal life to where his content can change and the things that he's telling us and giving us can change.

So I'm excited though You know what's another Ross project I didn't think we were going to get a Bross album this year So this was this was dope to find out that this was coming It'd be cool if he did like Some weird Producer collab album like

They said I always said that I mean Justice League should lock in for a whole project But I feel like you get more of the same Like we get what we love already Like when two chains and static Selected announced they was working together And I heard some of music is fucking incredible

Like chains You wouldn't expect that And it sounds so good good because of that. Like, if Ross got with like a madly with some really weird shit. I would like to hear Ross with like more Bink. Ross and ninth wonder would be great. I would like to hear him with Ninth Wonder.

Just some left shit where it's like you lock in with one producer that you typically wouldn't be with and wouldn't be a typical sound because of course of Ross Justice League album would be incredible. Oh yeah, but we got that. Yeah, we have a bunch of those records. We know what they can do together. But, you know, it's, yeah, it's just, I'm just hoping that with this project, the content. changes a little bit.

Yeah, we'll see. I mean, it's Ross. I'll be clicking it. But yeah, I think that was it as far as, like, major releases over the weekend. But shows, what else you've been watching? BMF,

season finale, watched it. Not mad at the season finale. Is it better than the wire? Not even close. Just asking. Not even close. You told me Seinfeld was better than Y.

I was like, what, it's not even the same category. Everything is better than the liar. You see, the narratives you throw out there about me. Oh, wow. No, BMF was good. He was comparing Issa to Marlowe and I was like, what the fuck? See, this is why people think I'm crazy because you say shit like this. Yeah, I like BMF.

I think the first season was good. I think they did a good job. I was surprised. I didn't think it was going to be as good as it was. A couple episodes were kind of shaky, kind of started getting a little too. Like, all right, man, what's going on? But I think that overall they did a really good job. They did a really good job.

Shout out to Tasha Smith, who directed it. Shout out to fit the executive producer, all of the actors. They did a really good job. I'm not mad at the first season. I'm excited to see what season two is going to do. Were they renewed for season two already? I would have to. I would have to think so.

Okay. Yeah, I mean, I think everybody was watching that. I think they would have to be greenlit for season two already. Yeah, sure. Who's going to play G. if it's in season two. I'll probably be season three when GZ shows up. I was thinking about that

because all the people that are attached to BMF is such a big part of their story. That's why BMF is interesting because it wasn't that long ago. Like everyone's still around and it was still part of the culture of the artists that are still relevant.

Fab has to be in it somehow. GZ has to be in it somehow. I thought that the M&M appearance of him playing White Boy Rick was hilarious. That shit was just like the most like I get it. Eminem, Detroit. I get it.

I liked it. But come on, man. I thought it was funny. Nah, man. Come on, man. You thought when he said, who was that? He said, White Boy, Rick.

You thought he said, White Boy, Rick. You thought he was like, no, I was Eminem. But did you see Eminem's face, though? Like, Eminem always has this look on his face where it's like, it's like he heard somebody was coming to get him. Like, it's like, so he just always has this look at his eyes where he's just like, just you could tell he's looking at everything.

Yeah. And it was just like, that's, not. He looked like Kevin Spacey. Like that wig he had. The wig was, the wig was interesting. I was like, that Kevin Spacey? Like, who is that? That's not white boy Rick, man. Like, have you ever seen pictures of white boy Rick? He don't look sick. His hair looked nuts too, though. White boy Rick's hair look nuts. But that was just, yo, seeing Eminem like that was just hilarious, bro. But it was a great season, man. I think they did a good job, man. I'm definitely looking forward to season two of that. And shout out to Cash, though. She did a great job

in her role as well. I think she has a future in active for sure. Yeah, she did a really, really good job. No, I like it. The Lamar character, he's definitely the start of season one. Oh yeah. Yeah, his character was absolutely crazy. And then, see, I don't want to give, because you didn't see it, but it's just, I see the finale yet. I'm not, I'm almost there. It's just certain, I mean, I know, I know they all get arrested at the end, so you don't have to. You know how the story ends? No, but it's, it's just certain shit that happened where, and I don't want to spoil it for you, but it's just not, that would that, that would not happen. That's what I'm going to say, like, and it's dealing with, with the relationship with Homeboy and the girl,

the way that ended, it would not happen like that. Like, trust me, I know plenty of dudes that was in a situation where the girl was a snitch and it didn't happen like that. So it's just like, I don't know, but whatever, man. It was a good season, though. It was a good season for sure. Yeah, no, I'm excited to finish it up. I fell off with Raising Canaan.

I got to catch up on that. Yeah, I heard the new one is out. Okay. No, not Raising Canaan. Oh, yeah, Power Book 17. Yeah, the new, I didn't, I didn't, I just thought of yet. Narcos, Mexico, the new season is out.

I watched the first episode. I mean, at this point, that's just in neutral. They just, they know what they're doing with that. For sure. I could tell it's going to be another dope season of that. Insecure. Is insecure? Yes.

I didn't watch last night's episode because I fell asleep, but I am pretty much caught up. I like the way it's wrapping up. Yeah. I like it, but it's just like, damn, this shit is like really, you can see it like, you could tell that it's over. Like it's coming to it in Like you can kind of see that Shout out to Issa Ray

And the whole Insecure brand I was watching curb Did you see curb I do? I do His humor man I think that's just The older man thing

Yeah but I feel like Like he's been that way For quite Since 16 Yeah I mean like Kirby enthusiasm Is like

They were able to really Finish the jokes In Seinfeld Because it didn't have to be sitcomy It didn't have to be Network TV like it could finally get into the real brain of Larry David.

Right. Which I identify with more and more as the days go. And you get older. Oh, for sure. Yeah. It was some things in there where I was like, holy shit. Like, this is part of getting old. I love in every episode, every season of Curb.

Like all, Curb is kind of like a love and hip-hop in the sense. You know what, let me hip-hop. All they do is go talk, then they go get drinks. Then they talk and then they go get drinks. And then they play basketball. will, shoot free throws with each other. By the way,

that they go get drinks. Niggins have never met up to just shoot free throws with each other. That just, that doesn't happen. It's just shit that don't be happening, for real, man. When Peter Guns and Saigon and Rich Dollars was just hooping on that one court when you come out of the Holland Tunnel on 6th Avenue and Canal, no one's ever played ball at that court.

That court is empty every day. They didn't even play ball. They were just shooting free throws, bro. Like, niggas. Who shoots hoops on Canal? Who practices free throws? What nigger that played streetball would be like, y'all, I'm gonna go get a 500 free throw.

Niggas is coming like, fan, we need that court. You gotta take that shit somewhere else. You're not practicing free throws in. It's just shit that this does not happen that they be trying to put in these shows. I'm like, bro, that's not real. That is not happen like that. But whatever, it's all for TV, I guess.

And I feel like, Kerb, all they do is have dinner parties. And that's how they digest every weird thing in society. Well, that's an older. I think that's an older person thing. Yeah. Because I know a lot of older people that, like, oh, yeah, we're going to a dinner party this week. I'm like, that's that like the.

Older brunch? Of course. Dinner party? Yeah. Okay. But you have to have older friends that know how to cook. That's very true.

That's very true. But the fact is... I can't have a dinner party and know how to cook. He... Anytime the dinner party scene comes up in almost every fucking episode, I'm like, all right.

How is... Can he not beat this into a dead horse? It's funny every single time. Mm-hmm. That entire show is so simple yet so complex. Love it. Love curb, man. I'm all caught up on that.

And also an insecure. Not this episode that just came out. The one before it. when they got into like Kelly finding herself in the spiritual journey and how fucking annoying those people can be sometimes like the entire show it's like yo shut the fuck up about how you found yourself

right like and then you find the other person at the party that found themselves and now it's too annoying people it's a connection yeah yeah yeah no I get what I'm leave your chakras over there like I think that that I think Kelly I think she has a her character has a spinoff ability oh for sure I don't know if spinoff ability is a word but it is now I think she has spin off ability I mean her

Her character is that funny. I think that they can create a show around just her character. Absolutely. No, she's hysterical. Yeah. Come on, man. Give Lawrence some slack here. Why?

I mean, if he's in the other city trying to make money for the kid, he's like not supposed to enjoy himself and fuck bitches and drink and celebrate. Like, what's he's supposed to do? He's working. wants to go home he's not with Shorty like why is everyone like his piece of shit

Look at him having a blast While the single mother's in L.A I'm like Well do he's up there making money He can't enjoy him So he gotta be miserable over there too He can't release his loins His middle of like when you have fun man

They give Lawrence way too much shit On that show I think at the end of it I think at the end of This Insecure series I think that People are gonna love Lawrence I think the last episode

is gonna be like he did it right he got it right I just I just see it going that way I'm sorry he came he came all the way from Best Buy he got it out the Best Buy mud made it all the way to fucking Silicon Valley whatever fuck he's doing now and the Best Buy mud is not easy mud yeah that's like some tough mud

for sure yeah he went from geek squads of fucking making six figures of course he's gonna fuck some bitches after work it has to happen like that's part of it like I make six figures now pussy is somewhere in this motherfucking negotiation trust and believe that And I mean, of course he wants to show up for the bigger moments.

People take like the common sense out of shit. Like, all right. But that's part of it, then. Let me make sure I could go for the bigger moments. That's part of it. Like we don't, we lose sight of that and watching a lot of these shows. Like, and that's why I love when shows get it right. Because they cover all the basis of it wouldn't happen like that.

It would happen like this. Yeah. This is more realistic. Insecure is great with the realistic shit. Because Issa, she, Issa knows. She knows how shit is going to go. that's not how it happens. It happens like this.

And that's why Insecure is one of our favorite shows. Because they just get it right. They understand our culture. For sure. Try to think there's anything else. We won't be back on Friday. We are taking an indigenous people's day break. Yes.

We'll be back next week. Merch will be available soon. Some shit here. Yeah. Some shit. You hear, Rory? We've got some shit if you're watching the video. I gave Tiana one of the hoodies last night.

that I had. I didn't have, I didn't bring back much from LA, but I'm going to have them send some stuff out so we can start gifting some of our friends, some of our merch. But Tiana loved it. She was mad that I didn't have any more for her.

But we'll be sure to get our friends and family some merch. Yeah, absolutely. It'll be online. It'll be available online because I know, again, people keep asking, so it's coming. Is there any other updates? We don't have Demaris here. She's feeling under the weather.

And she usually gives us the updates that we need. Shout out of it. Oh, I did want to say, What's the What's the bitch-ass nigga name? Oh, I forgot his name That's, yo

What's his name? I don't know his name I don't know his name. I don't even call him a fucking He's a clown. And if it's true that his friends Were hiding him That's some clown shit too

That's clowns too Put them all in us On the same clown bus Zach Stacy Zach Stacy You're a fucking clown I don't know I don't know where you from

I don't know The type of upbringing that you had I don't know the type of friends that are around you, but you're a clown. There's never know. And I'm here seeing things online saying that his baby mother pulled a gun on him or something like that. And if that's the case, you know, she was wrong for that. But if she no longer has the gun in her hand, just call the police.

Like if you were able to get the gun away from her, like all that extra shit, you slamming her, your daughter sitting right down the couch. You're knocking over your baby. Yeah, it's like you're a clown. You're a clown. and I hope that, you know, somebody, some real men, because that's the problem out here, it's not a lot of real men walking around. I hope some real men run down on you.

I hope that she has a family full of real men and they find you and they beat the brakes off your bitch ass. Well, I believe he was caught and was charged. As he should be. Even if you PC up, even people in PC don't fuck with that type of shit. Yeah, like that's just like you're a clown. You're a clown. I don't know where it became cool.

for men to put hands on a woman like that. And, you know, it's just, again, it's unfortunate to even have to see that. Now the baby is traumatized. For sure. Witnessing that. Yeah, so I don't even want to say his name. He's a fucking clown. And if the other prisoners don't get to him, I know some COs that will.

Yeah, and he's, you know, I guess he feel like, you know, a man. Like, you know, that's that's that insecure shit that, you know, men that put their hands on women. I guess he kind of feels like a man now. I just hope some real men run down on you and really and really show you what being a man is about word. For sure. Well, yeah. Shout out to everyone that's been keeping up with us. We'll be back.

Enjoy your holiday with your family. If you don't have family. Enjoy the holiday. Eat good. Live good. Enjoy each other. Love each other. Don't drink and drive.

Yeah, please don't drink and drive. Uber is readily available with the fair hikes. Pay the fair hike. Don't ask any political questions to your family members. No, ask all. Ask them all. Let's have an uncomfortable. I'll tell you, we are here to get to the uncomfortable.

We approach the uncomfortable. We approach the awkward and we face it. You know what I'm saying? And I want families to have awkward conversations. I want to say Thanksgiving. I can't. It's so programmed. What we got to come up with a new word?

A day to give thanks. A day to eat. Yeah, so on the day to eat together as a family, which should be every day. But, of course, society doesn't make it that way. Yeah, have the uncomfortable conversations. I was talking. Remember when the Meek Championship's album came out

and was free with Hove is on there and Hove has the line. Don't tell me Happy Thanksgiving sounds like a massacre to me or whatever the bar was. Guru called me when it came out and was like, dog. We recorded that shortly after Thanksgiving

and the last text I sent them before he texted to Link for the studio. It was happy Thanksgiving. He was talking about Guru. He threw a shot at his engineer. He was like, damn, man. Imagine throwing a shot at the nigger that's like recording.

about a nice gesture. Yeah, thanksgiving, bro. Yeah, man. It's just, yeah, but we got to find a different word. I know we're trying to move forward in our culture and as a society and make things right. So they're calling it Native American. Heritage Day.

Indigenous Day. Something like that. I don't know. Yeah, I don't know what they're doing. But, you know, give thanks. Every day you should give thanks anyway. But, you have fun with the family. Have done comfortable conversations, man.

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