New Rory & MAL - Episode 216 | Neal Brennan & MAL Do Ayahuasca

Episode Date: November 7, 2023

It’s Tuesday… let’s get this bread. We’re here to bring some levity into your life so we brought in our good friend Neal Brennan for today’s episode (Yes, the co-writer of the Chappelle Show). We start with music and global politics which quickly transitions into conspiracy theories. Where we cover Bill Cosby, the pandemic and of course the moon landing. Neal then shares with us his life changing experiences with ayahuasca and DMT. He goes into detail about how those experiences have altered his relationships with people and religion. He even provides some insight into his next special. We all share drug stories (cue Rory’s sound journey). We discuss the state of comedy. More specifically, comedic movies and In Living Color/SNL. Neal then shares when he and Dave Chapelle reconnected after their falling out. We collectively laugh at Rory’s trauma. Neal goes on to share his favorite memories with Kobe, Mike Myers, and other legends. Fortunately this conversation coincided with our first voicemail about the illuminati. Tune in as the guys and Neal discuss all of this + more! Follow The Team:Rory - https://www.instagram.com/thisisrory/Mal - https://www.instagram.com/mal_bytheway/Eddin - https://www.instagram.com/thankyoueddin/Julian - https://www.instagram.com/julian__nicholas/Demaris - https://www.instagram.com/demarisagiscombe/ Merch: https://newrorynmal.com/Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/newrorynmalYouTube Subscribe: https://rb.gy/hk7up Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoicesSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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We're sitting here with the talented, the funny, the legend, Neil Brennan. Thank you for joining us. Guys, yes. Great to be here. Give us some of your credits. And talk about yourself. Listen, this is what we're here about.

We're here for you to just talk about yourself, Neil. What do you want to know? I was curious as to what you guys wanted to know. I'm sure you've got 10 things you really want to know. Who's your favorite emcee of? all time. Hip hop? Yeah.

Or the or the or the comedy cellar. My favorite emcee the comedy cell would be Artie. Okay. Artie. Sober Artie or? You know what? I would actually see my favorite emcee the seller is Keith Robinson because he, you could see him forget that he was bringing you up.

He'd go, give it up for and then you, it was like he doesn't know how he's just said Kevin Hart. Yeah, he's like exactly. Yeah. Um, my favorite hip hop in the sea. Yeah. So look, that's a great. Andre J.

Alco. Really? Yeah. Wow. Okay. Yeah. Like the, or Kanye, I could make a argument that Kanye is the greatest hip hop contributor.

Okay. Across the board. I wouldn't argue. Did more than anyone. producing maybe he didn't write I don't give him shit but shoes

clothes like he really he did produce of all time probably yeah even though it started becoming like he would bring out of the people and then I hear he like

it's a sort of a group dynamic I hear he's got like a full cult thing going now everybody that's with him is not allowed to eat with utensils everybody has to eat with their hands swag and we're all black I mean, I'm just really interested in his views on Israel and Palestine at this point.

Yeah. Who do you guys got, by the way? I'm doing the parlay. It's not really a fair fight. It's not really a fair fight. Is this? Is this on draft. How many points is Palestine getting?

I'm on draft king. Enter promo code, Neil. Enter promo code don't. Take the under on Hamas. How many points is Hamas getting, though? Before I go in this parlay. It depends. At colleges, they're getting a lot.

at American college. Liberal art school. Yeah. They're getting. It's a blowout. The refs are in on it. Yeah. So that would be, I would go,

Andre and or Kanye JZ is pretty good. Yeah, there's a lot of guys. What was that era like in New York in the early 2000s, Black Star, Kanye in New York at that time? Just that come up, which I guess. I was very tired all the time. Like, I was so from doing the TV show,

like just exhausted all the time. time, but it was, but they were, everybody was excited, you know, like something was going to happen. And, and it kind of did. Amir Kwezlov always says that the Dave's block party thing was like the end of that era. And, and then Kanye was just like, all right, so you guys. Right. I mean, he just became a superstar.

He was so much a part of that backpack era and was leading the charge. And then once he became Jesus Walk to happen. Yeah. Did Boomap? matter? No, well, yeah, or the Neo-Soul or whatever, yeah. So, yeah, like, so it was, I was tired, so I don't know what it was like other than most deaf and probably due to show the night before Chappelle show aired and a kid said, Dave, Dave,

what are you going to do? You're too black for white people and too white for black people. It was just like. And too straight for gay people. Yeah, it was just like, oh, okay. Thanks for the support. So the pilot airs tomorrow. Yeah.

My career is on the line tomorrow. Yeah. Do you guys feel yourself aging out of it at all? Hip-hop? Yeah. 100%. Yes. Yeah.

So, so you, if you're him, how do you do it? And it's like mature hip-hop. It's like Jay-Z made a mature hip-hop album, which was like, I like parts of it. I would argue I'd rather him be a dirtbag. Like, I, I, I, I want my, like, dirtbag hole. Yeah, I just want my, my, my, I want my hip-up artist to just be dirtbag. Yeah. Like, I always said they should put their money in a trust and you get it after five albums.

But until then, you can talk about the struggle the entire time. Until then, you got to keep selling dope. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And you got to live on couches. Yeah. And you're a dirtbag. We got your money. You'll get it.

You'll get it. But give where the album. That's not a bad idea. And I mean, I guess it's kind of the catch 22 of hip hop because it's relevant is because it stays young. Like it is no country for old men with that genre. It's just dirtbag. It's just like, hey, what kind of syrup are you going to overdose on? Or like just it's all or or Xana or whatever their tape, whatever the thing is, you want them to be that.

And like, yeah, I get a huck and face tattoo. Yeah, I get a diamond in your forehead. Yeah. Please, that's a sign of true artistry. And you can't please any hip-hop fan too because, you know, Drake's last album, myself included, was like, damn, kind of wish we got more of a mature Drake. Well, that's what kind of made, because I watched it.

And I was like, well, when I watch you guys, I think, do you, you're younger than me. So I'm from the time before the internet. I did step before the internet. So how old you? We don't talk about it. It's pretty well. Look at Dale 25.

I mean, guys. It's holding it's holding together. So much surgery. You wouldn't believe it. I've had to re-break my nose several times. And they charge me. 3,500 bucks. She just ate a woman.

That's what I'm saying. So where you guys are like reviewing album, everyone's a critic now. Yeah. And there's something that's like not fun. It would be significantly less fun to me. if no one like, you know, that shit was made, like, shut the fuck up. Yeah.

Yeah. Whoever you are. Like, unless you can do it, uh, even, because the thing people don't realize, it's like, critics were bitches. Yeah. No one liked critics. Right. Like, no artists like critics.

And so now everyone sees it as a way to kind of get in, which is aggravating. The fans used to hate the media and the journalist. Yeah. Every fan is a quote unquote journalist. Yes. They're who they hate. Yeah. It's like people don't like bullies.

until they get a shout. How many arguments did you get into for critique and music when you were at the source? I was, I was there for a week. I was just there for, I wasn't really there. I was just like, there was a comedy issue. How many mics did you give Benzino's album? I'm not getting into that. That's why he was fired.

But I pulled back from reviewing a lot of stuff because I feel like the wrong critic. Like, I don't eat, I don't eat seafood. I'm not going to go do a review on a fish dish. So there's albums our listeners want us to review. And I'm like, that music isn't for me. So I'm going to give it the wrong review. I'm not the person it was intended for. Do you think how much of the podcast is people, like, what do they want from you guys?

They don't know. They truly don't. You've done, you've done, we give them exactly what they want. And then that next day, it was made in like it. Yeah, we suck. Yeah. Reddit is the scariest place, I think, on Earth. Yeah, you can't go.

I tell them all the time. Don't go. Why are you there? Why are you going there? Yeah. I mean, if you have a girl, you don't really need to be out any kind of social media. I love Reddit or I just, I don't do ever type my name. So I like, I have my little categories, whatever.

But social media is like, what I have so many words blocked. People can't even say anything. What are your forums of choice on Reddit? Great question. Guy on the side. Scott here. Scott. I like on inside the end.

NBA when they go, when they identify themselves, when they're doing the area, like, hey, what's up is Shaq? Yeah, we knew what's you, Shaq. We don't, no one needs to identify yourself. I had my eyes closed. Yeah. But, uh, but, uh, my forums are, I'm not going to tell you that. That's not your best.

Yeah. What kind of suckery do you pick I am? Well, when did you start blocking words? When did you get into that thing? Probably five years ago. Did it, like, affectionate to some degree? Or I had Sarah Silverman on my podcast the other day and post a clip on Instagram and posted on YouTube and just block like Hamas, Gaza, Israel, like literally just like I could see where it was going. When Sarah offended?

She don't know. No one knows. That's the thing is no one knows that it's blocked. But now it's blocked forever. So you'll never be able to talk to me about Hamas. You must have to just stop looking comment. I just stopped looking. I mean, it's like I don't look.

It's never helpful. You guys were kind of the guinea pigs of the hateful internet and opinionated shit after Chappelle's show ended because that was the internet boom was kind of right at that time. It was kind of like the first viral forum shit because I remember going on like early blogs. And it was the first time I feel like people speculated about a breakup. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You guys kind of started that. 0506, yeah. Well, that's what I don't like, do you remember there was a conspiracy that Cosby and Oprah had a,

to Dave on they were like the Black Avengers or something. It was, it literally makes me hate every conspiracy theory sense because it was so fucking dumb. And people were like swearing by it. And now when I

so whenever any conspiracy there, I'm just like it's stupid. You don't believe in? You look like you don't believe in the moon landing. It seemed like one of those guys. Go fuck yourself. I don't like your tone. it wasn't what you said it's how you said um

just give me space race lives why would they fake them like once of it's like why the idea that there's a cabal that the cabal agrees with themselves right that there's a Jewish cabal and the Bilderbergs and it's like how were they all in cahoots

and then how do they have they go COVID was intentional for what to kill five million people and shut the economy down for a deal? How is that a good conspiracy? It's not a good one, but it's sort of logical. What would it serve?

The pharmaceutical boom. There was a lot of money. It was one company. I mean, look, but that's, yeah, but like historically. Again, if Merck and Pfizer have the formula, there's 10 other people that don't want the country to shut down. I mean, I actually think the structure of the country overall, forget the vaccine, forget. Also, the country is all the world.

Change drastically. So I could see a conspiracy making sense to shift the entire structure of mankind. I don't know. Vaccine informant. But why would they want to, how do they ship the structure of mankind? I just think that's above our pay grade. When I know, but you can't tell me there's a thing and then go, I don't know how it works, but I know that it exists.

That's pretty much how I live my life. I just say things that I have no idea about it. Didn't Bill Gates say, hasn't he gone on record talking about overpopulation is going to be ultimately the demise of. Right. But Elon Musk, the guy who's richer than him is a pro-natalist, meaning he believes we have to populate there. So who's running the cabal? It's clearly not the rich. It's, that's what I'm saying. Like, the more you know about shit, it shit is really complex. Oh, everything is gossip. Sure. And everything, it's like where you go, wait, what? And then the last person to talk. you go that I agree with him. And then somebody else says something.

You're like, okay, fuck that last guy. You're my guy now. What happened to 5G causing it? Remember that one? That was crazy. Remember that one? No one has apologized to me. Everybody's wasting my fucking precious time.

They said black people couldn't get it. That lasted for like three weeks. Yeah. Black people couldn't get COVID. Couldn't get COVID. I don't remember that. Yeah. Remember that?

All the first cases were white people. I started that one. Yeah. I'm a happy guy. Cosby and Oprah came to you and said, Neil. They came to me directly. Yeah, that was my. How much weed did you just smoke right and half baked? I didn't smoke any weed. No way.

I swear to God, I don't smoke weed. I don't like weed. I'm with you. And did make you anxious, hold in on your show? Yeah, everything people say about what they like about weed doesn't happen when I smoke weed. It's the wrong strange. You're smoking. No, again, I've had this. This covers it. No, Indica, bro. Yeah, no.

The other one, Intigua makes you work. No, it doesn't. Both will make me fold in on myself. Yes. And disappear. Now, you did the ayahuasca, right? I've many times. Dude, I had an episode we were talking about I think every rapper should have like an ayahuasca like treatment for like the trauma.

Like I think that will change the entire landscape of hip hop. If every rapper that has ever been like in a shootout ever had a friend pass away, everyone needs to do every rapper It wouldn't help my dirtbag desires Do you think I mean wouldn't that just be like All Black people

Or all black people Or all black men or something Like meaning why only hip hop Have you done it? No I haven't done but I want to do it I want to do it Well I know people that experience They said it's the greatest thing ever

It's a shout out on Mike Tyson years ago And he said it is the greatest thing The boofo? The shit he does Yeah The top of me up for a year and a half I did it once. He's done it a hundred times. Yeah.

I did it once. And it fucked me up for, I'm getting at chills thinking about it. Like, it fucked me up so badly. I was so fucked up. I, like,

you go, you, it's called Bufo, the toad, Bufo all various, uh, five MEODMT. It's like too many names.

And, and, and, uh, the, you inhale it. I inhale it. it and I went to a place

that another guy named Michael Paul described as before the Big Bang. You know here. This is like your inside consciousness. Slowly but surely you come back into yourself

after about 20 minutes. The issue for me was a week later I had a reactivation. So now I'm on the street talking to Ryan Hamilton on a Saturday 9 on 6th Avenue and Bleaker or 6th Avenue and fucking house and I can feel it coming back. And I'm like, hey man, I'm going to run upstairs. The next day, I'm on a coffee day with a girl and half of my field of vision is like white static. So I'm like so disoriented. I'm like split between them. I got so disoriented. I'm like split between them.

I got so disoriented. I didn't understand like why life existed. I was so disoriented. I was like, I might have to kill myself. What in suicide?

It's like, I'm not going to be able to take this. Okay. And I didn't kill myself because I knew I would just be going into more of the disorientation. Damn.

It was fucking wild. Wow. See, that's scary. It's super scary. So when everybody's like, this renaissance of like everybody in come on fucking smoke that it's like yeah everyone slowed up iawaska i have very different experiences on and very positive experience on now having said

both of those things i'm better from having the smoke the toad than i was before okay i can fall love and funnier write jokes like everything about my life's better i have a connection to god that's from I was an atheist before I did ayahuasca and then was like oh I'm in the press of God now okay fine that's all I needed to know I just didn't have any experience with it well now I accept it I don't take antidepressants anymore and I believe in God so that's pretty significant for like 200 bucks um it's a big bag yeah did you write blocks before that experience I wrote blocks I had written blocks before it and then I added the thing and the end with that like montage of craziness.

Yeah. Because I, it was like, I went too far. The punchline to that, like, the postscript is like, I'm better. But, like, ah, that was really touch and go where I'm walking down steps going, like, why are steps? Yeah. Why are steps? That's a Kanye thought. Yeah, we need to about it.

I know. I know. So, like, like, didn't understand anything. thing but now my and it last i thought i was good after like eight months i got like five half of a percent better every day uh i knew i couldn't meditate i was so far past meditating like i was like here meditators are like here so i just needed to like slowly go back okay and uh and and and then i one time i did a i did like laughing gas at the dentist and like went back and had to like start over.

So it took like, I thought it was good after eight months. And then I was doing ayahuasca and I felt the DMT door closed. And I was like, that shit was still open. I didn't realize. I thought it was good. It was like a year and a half later. What is it about ayahuaski? Do you think that can get someone to a place to understand how to love or even have a

well, the cool thing is there was no, what I like about these things is like, if you you guys gone in therapy at all? Yeah. Currently. You, in therapy, I always felt like, look,

man, I can keep talking about this. It just felt like a, just like a monologue that I would do. And then, of course, who can forget that? And then my mother,

just that dumb therapy, not dumb, but whatever, it just feels repetitive. And I used to say to a therapist, like, it's in my body. It's just in my fucking body.

I don't know how to describe it. And the DMT and the I, uh, got it out yeah or almost all the way out like where it's not now having said that on ayah

I shake for hours like literally like fucking I do like the Harlem shake for like the first hour and a half swear to God and then it's several middles just no yeah yeah

people do still start our radio's hilarious too it's so that joke is so fucking funny and it's very hard to say we like literally I have a picture of us like going over it like people do steal

steal car radio people do still still still still still people do still steal car radios you know yeah um yeah that joke in the black Gallagher uh piss on me you black motherfucker was like yeah yeah that car radio one and the black Gallagher one was like the small jokes

that I feel most people we didn't Rick James is great yeah yeah yeah but it's the side stuff. So I shake and then and then I goes into my arms and just and I don't know what it is. What do you think it is that? That feeling that you're saying is inside trying to get out? There's a thing called traumatic release, which I've done, done it all. The traumatic release where you, you know when you after you work out, I would say, you know, but no one here works out.

Just scaffold. Pull up. Oh, sorry, ma'am. Yep. So you know when you work out. and you kind of are a little shaky afterward. Yeah. It's that, but you can kind of make it last for like an hour

and apparently get shit out of your body. Is that a feeling of comfort when you're in that, or is that like hard? I actually like it. Yeah, I do like it because it just feels like, I don't know what's happening. I'm not mad at it. Let's just see where it goes.

Yeah, I'm assuming it's positive. It's definitely not negative. Is that something you have to maintain, though? Like, are you going to continue to do ayahuasca quarterly? Like, how does it work? question. I haven't, I didn't march. Where do you do it?

Where do you go? I get, it's out by six flag. Now, a lot of people go to Peru. I go up on the five. It's by the bathroom. It's here, Hershey Park. Dorni Park. Yeah.

You go down the water slide. Went wild. You guys have been out of the wet and wild? The Dorney part. Fuck. Yeah, that's sick. Don't. Yeah.

Yeah, I haven't done it since March. Here's the cool thing. I said in blocks that MDMA doesn't work for me. It does now because of the DMT. So I can, when I take MDMA or mushrooms, it's a God connection. So I may not need to do it anyway. I would never do DMT again. I, uh, I is hard.

I had, you're like kind of afraid you're going to lose your mind. Like there are times that I'm aware I'm like, I have to remind myself I'm a mammal. It's a pretty wide shot. Yeah, yeah, yeah. What is it reminded to let yourself know you're a mammal? Because pick something up. I mean, dude, you have to go like you need to, you're a mammal and you need to breathe. Yeah.

You're going back to the studs. You're like, it's real basic. Yeah, yeah. Uh, there's a tot. The fourth time I did I, I drank too much, right? And I was thrust into outer space and by myself in my mud. And, uh, and I, and the world, the universe was going to be ended. And I was by myself in outer space.

And it was fucking terrifying. And I was like, all right, just breathe in. case people find you in case there's some kind of big i don't know what i thought was going to happen out of but that ended but that was like four hours uh are you alone no i was with ian edwards and a girl named katherine great question about and uh yeah and uh and once for sure i was like traumatized after that from over drinking and being in a like scary situation and so the four times I did it were like a little touch and go. And I would go to a place that I called mammal time where I was kind of in the,

I think it was the time on earth when fish became human. So that's why I had to remind myself that I'm a mammal. Anyhow, we'll be right back. Oh, go ahead. Did you ever, but it cleared up my depression. Do you know what I mean? Like, I say it's like getting a software. upgrade, but you know when you upgrade your phone, it turns off.

Yeah. This, you're still on. Okay. And you're getting like re-program. Do you recommend it, though? Like, I would recommend Ayahuasca to just about anybody unless they have, uh, unless you're bipolar. Unless you're bipolar.

Yeah. Interesting. So there goes all most of your rappers. Yeah. Yeah. There goes most of your good rappers. Out of here. I think it's interesting because I agree with you with therapy.

There's really only so much you can do. Like, I get to great places with my therapist and it's just like, now what? All right, cool. I understand where this comes from now. Yeah. Now what? Yeah.

Therapy is direct and addressing things. The way you're explaining ayahuasca feels much more spiritual. Did you ever encounter anything direct in the ayahuasca? Not just a spiritual thing, maybe seeing God or something. That's the other thing. A direct demon that you have maybe discussed in therapy. Are you asking me when I, I did it in last October, did a female spirit come onto my face and then a male spirit?

Yeah. Again, we'll be right back. Your parents. Did I believe in any of that shit before? Fucking absolutely not. I was an atheist. And I was just like, okay, it was female spirit. And then a male spirit.

Then I told my friend, you brought someone in with you. And she was like, it's my twin brother who died in utero. Shit like that. It's like a moot. It's like some Santa Maria shit. It's like really, really wild. So you're saying in the spirit world, there is only two. That's what you're saying on record.

I know. I think I think that goes without saying. It's not just beholden the spiritual world. Yeah. Yeah. They ain't with all that other shit. Do you ever do acid? Yeah.

I used to dig acid in high school. But the, but it's the all the shit. Look, guy. Look, I don't know who you are. But yeah, high school. He's a, he's a car guy. He's a cold guy. He's a cold.

Fort Ruth now. Yeah. So you, there is a, uh, I haven't encountered like have I gotten direct messages or direct guidance no I've written jokes on it like it's not you're you're kind of half there and half yeah it kind of comes and waived so I didn't get anything directly other than like oh I'm in the presence of God so that's good that's like a cool thing and now and it's reprogram me to where I can where when I do MDMA it works and it's the guy connection to mushrooms and like it's a good it's a good connection to mushrooms and like it's a just kind of opened a portal that I can that is always with me. I feel like if that starts to close, I'll open it up. But so far so good. I did a I did a sound journey, which was pretty interesting. It's MDMA and shrooms together and you're blindfolded. Do you know how much? I'd have to look back. It was a lot. Like was it? Because I, there's mushrooms that's like manageable.

And then there's mushrooms. It's like anything over two grams for me. I'm like, Like, yo, like I did too many, I don't know, six months ago. And it was like, you're far from the shore, son. Oh, I know. I left. Like, I went somewhere else. Yeah. That type of trip.

Oh, last time I did it. Sorry to interrupt. But you guys invited me. Yeah. This is how far out I was. I was communicating with like alien, like, what's that show on history channel? Ancient aliens. Ancient aliens, yes.

Oh, thank you. You're almost worthwhile. Where I was going, I was communicating, I was involuntary going near an hour. Vibrations feel really good. Yeah. And I don't know if that's, I don't know if it's what's a dream, what's actual ancient aliens. The sound journey was interesting because you're blindful. and they have live music playing and like tones and smells.

There's probably like 20 of us in there. And it's a whole process of professionals. Like you go four hours before. Do you have like meetings? It's a real thing. See, I don't want to be around that many people when I experienced. Yeah. So that's what maybe you're, you got your, your hands of fault.

You're like your gut. I was nervous going into it. You got bigger issues. I don't even notice. I'm laying down. I'm like, all right. I'm in a sleeping bag. I'm talking about ancient aliens, dog. Talking about the mammal space.

Yeah, I'm talking. You trying to be a mammal or what? The moment that shit hit, Maugh, I was not in Brooklyn anymore. There was someone right next to me and I was nervous, like, this is going to be, like, weird. Like, I just have some person laying next to me. Yeah.

Five minutes later. Five hours later, woke up. Like, you have no idea where you're going on. Yeah, you're not there. You're literally not. It's not, it's, you just, you go into another. See, the only thing, I'm just scared that I'm never going to come back if I do that. Yeah, you know, the thing that people always worry about is like, am I going to shit my pants?

No, I've never seen anybody shit their pants. And I never will. I see everybody pews, but that's like, I've only puked one, but like everyone's puking. There's something funny about that to me, that it's just like 25 people and one guy's talking and people are, and you hear like, oh. And he doesn't acknowledge it. He's used to it. Yeah, it's just no, you're just like, yeah. Yeah.

What are you going to know? With the 20 people, Lovie, the only bad and awkward part was after we were done, you can't, like, leave right away because you're still a little fucked up. And, like, they have a powwow at the end, and, like, people can share about their journey if they want. Okay. And I was so fucked up from the journey. It made me, like, even more depressed once everyone was explaining the amazing time they had.

Like, one girl got into that she was touched and as a child and it was, like, over her sexual abuse based off that. And I'm sitting here like, I just found out I'm more of a fucked up person than I thought I was. It was everyone was happy and that made me more depressed. You don't like that. Yes. But what did you, what was yours like? It was a journey in every sense of the word. The most I discovered from it is I am attracted to very dark tones and I feel comfortable in chaos. Audible? Black audible tones? Black woman.

He's dark tones with curly hair. Yes. Moisturized? Shea butter. Everything. I love it. I love what I'm hearing. And anytime like happy tones came or anything light, I got really nervous and uncomfortable

and really wanted the darker shit to come back. When they would do the chaotic parts of the music, I was at home. I felt fucking fine, comfortable. Anytime things got happy. That's not necessarily bad. Yeah, maybe. But then when everyone is talking at the. end of how

it could have been she could have gotten molested. I mean, I did too. So I was like jealous of that girl that got molested. Why couldn't I have been molested like her? No, you're going to overcome?

I was, I was molested. And then when she was brave, I was like, damn, the shrooms didn't work for me. Oh, yeah.

I'm still not over it. You should be jealous. Ask for your money back. Destroy the instrument. Or just like a different sexual predator, wish I would have had hers. Yeah. I mean,

do it again? Yeah. I'm going to probably. Did you. find it help like a week or two later? I'm still processing and it's been over a year now. I don't know. I feel weird about it. I have flashbacks

from it and I have feelings from it constantly. I still can't figure them up. But are they negative or they're neutral? Neutral. They're not good or bad. Do you take antidepressants or anything? I used to don't know anymore. Don't say with that superior, child.

Do you... More of a proud to him. No, yeah, good. Do you take some, I would say do more. Yeah. Like try more because it doesn't have to be, you could get more of a read on it or more like a different emotional process. Yeah.

That would be my advice, but I don't have an idea. Do you feel, because me and Rory go back and forth a lot about SNL and live in color, do you feel like in living color for the short time that we had it do you feel like it was as important and as great of a platform as SNL was and why don't we talk about Keenan Ivory Wayans more in the culture? A lot of great questions there. Yeah, I mean, Jim pop from it.

Damon's movies didn't really do well. That was a big issue. Like, like, White Man and, like. last Boy Scout and I'm trying to think of Major Payne was major pain. Major pain and like perform well at the Boccur. Mo Money. Yeah. Yeah. Booty Call was kind of a bigger hit than Mo Money. Yeah. Booty Call did good. That's Jamie

and that's maybe that's, is that an absolute American Callum? It's like around the tail end. Yeah. And Jamie and Tommy Davis, right? And then Jim's, you know, became like the biggest thing to start in the world for like five years. So But I don't know that gets if even William Taylor would get credit for that. Meaning, I don't think it should. But I think, and also SNL is just perennial and like was John Belushi and Will Farrell and Pete Davidson.

And it's just like for 50 years. It's kicking people out. It's like, you know, giving. Right, right. But I'm saying like, but the whole culture changed where like, there's not going to be another John Belushi. Or okay, John Malaney.

Like, John's technically from Messettel. So, so. A Belushi can't in this, in this climate, no. It's not even climate. They don't make comedy movies anymore. Yeah. They don't do,

they don't. But it's not even, they don't. Right, but it's not even, they don't. The old dads is on Netflix. Come on. I kind of enjoyed the old days. But I'm saying, like, it's on Netflix because it probably wouldn't have done. Yeah.

Like 30 million people have watched it so far. At box office, it's like $450 million. It wouldn't have made $450 to the box office. And Netflix is where the comedy fans are. Yeah. It's a little easier to put comedy movies on Netflix than in the box office. Yeah, it's like Burr is like one of the main people. Like it's a good place for it to be.

I'm just saying like you don't like Bert's movie tanked, Joe Coy's movie tank, Sebastian's movie tank. Like these things that you would have, in the 90s, it would have been like Tommy Boy or Happy Gilmore, or Hapagged or anything's like, or, uh, with Farrell's movie, like, he, L for like, where you go, a comedy person in a fun situation. It's funny how comedy shifted in that regard. It was like standups wanted to get a sitcom. Yeah.

And then that turned into standups wanting to get a movie. And now it's like stand-ups trying to get a podcast. Is that the next time? I mean, in terms of money, in terms of like an amount of work. And also the only people who did arenas stand-up-wise were like 2015 were Eddie were in Andrew Dice. Like that's the list. And Dice did the garden.

It's not like he was doing arenas everywhere. So Eddie was doing arenas everywhere and sometimes not even. and so now there's 15 people that do a arena. So they're even, you know, doing a TV show is that you take a pay cut. Yeah. There's not a person alive who wouldn't, you'd have to make a million dollars an episode to make the money you make on an arena, on an arena tour. And this climate is so interesting that Bert, I think it's great that he did that movie.

I did enjoy it. Probably the least valuable thing in his portfolio? Yeah, which is crazy. Pay cut. Again, I'm really like, pay cut. Even if he had a good deal, I don't, I have no idea if he did or didn't. You make so much money doing an arena. Yeah.

Like Bert made $35 million bucks last year. It wasn't from the movie. So, and also, I don't want to watch a movie. I don't make Yeah I don't I don't want to watch a movie And also standup is so much fucking funnier than any more

Even Bora even a movie with like a lot of laps Most hours have way more laps than Bora Like or Team America or like Now there is something That Keenan Wayans actually said to me one time He was talking about Hollywood Shuffle And he said he had

He had, yeah, great movie. He had those sketches. And then Robert Townsend gave it a plot. And he's like, and without the plot, you've never heard of it. Meaning he said people would rather watch a good movie than a funny movie, which is right. Like, you would rather watch Forrest Gump or like some like, you know, big cinematic. I don't even know what big movies are anymore, but like, but a big cinematic movie than like a funny movie. It's they want heart and story and twists and shit.

And most comedy plots are just boring. And you're kind of the poster child for modern comedy in where it's at because you went movie, TV, then to stand-up. Right. And everybody did it backwards. And it's like, ah. But now that's the most valuable thing. So it actually made sense. And those things are like doing, I love doing Shepaljev, but the, the, the, like, it's like doing a corporate.

gig. It really is. It's just like the thing about stand-up and podcast is like there is no in a movie you have to affirm Judeo-Christian values. And they got back together and he's, they're going to move

in together and he learned his lesson and would stand up, you're fucking shit. Yeah. Why didn't just learn shit from the George Carlin act? Yeah. So that would be like and then he realized that people are good. Yeah. No, he didn't. He's like, you're all, his last special was you're all diseased.

Like, that's pretty dark. Yeah. So, uh, sorry, I was going to say, but even your specials, I feel like are so well produced. And you have a, they're very thematic in like three mics. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Cause I have some of that. I, it's a story arc. It's like that I, the new one isn't going to be. But the, I can. I only do that because I have to. Meaning like, I just have to. I don't want to take any.

chances. They did a Comedy Central special special and people were like, meh. And then I was like, all right, I'll fucking throw some more shit up there. Yeah. And then people cared more. Hopefully I'm going to make it so they don't. I'm going back to there. Just stand up. But no, no feelings. Yes. You're going to love it. Because a lot of people don't like all the feeling shit. So like I which I get like, it's a little heavy.

I'm depressed. So I love three mics. Yeah. Yeah. blocks like women in black dudes was that the yeah yeah like I liked it yeah yeah yeah but I think your uniqueness showed yes yes and the other two now I'm assuming the table was better there people will take the now they know me more because that was like three mics was like intended to explain myself like you know I'm depressed you know why I'm like this um so now I'm take the new one I'm almost contrary totally contradicted myself. Where I'm like, I'm kind of in favor of mental illness.

Just read Charlemagne's book? You'll be cured. What is, which one? Black privilege. I don't know. Chicken soup. Catcher in the riot. Yeah, exactly.

Chicken soup. When you saw the Chris Rock Wilson, what was your first thoughts? Because I thought it was fake. I'm going to be honest. I was like, I didn't think, I knew one, here's what was, here's my, my, what was your group chat like? I, I was, you group chat with, getting a Mendocino, I was at Mendocino farm. Mm-hmm.

How I, you know how I am, Sunday nights. I get my, my, my, my, my, my big and bon me with no cilantro, no cucumber. Crazy. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Um, first of all, fuck cilantro. Um, I don't even care about will. Finally, some thing is about cilantro.

Salon. Salatro, we'll look at you, dog. We're calling you to the table. I was at, uh, basically a mere quest love's category was documentary. Friss was presenting.

And I looked on Twitter and James Poyser, who's in the room, plays keyboard, uh, tweeted something like Afro next or something meaning of mear. So I was like, oh, all right.

So I'd go on. So I go on my what stream thing in my car and like and it starts fritzing out. And I'm like, this, this is this is not good. I just knew like this is not good. Because I'd seen Chris like the night before, two nights before. And not like he was like, I'm going to. It was just whatever. So I just know it was not good.

And then the and then I saw it. And it was, I knew one pick. I just knew too much of the, the history. Yeah. I didn't think it was tech. I think of Jada now. Post this press room.

I don't, it, I feel like they're on some other shit. And it's not, it's like, it's not for people. Like they're, they're approaching all their life and their relationships and stuff in a very unique way, which I respect.

You just can't tell certain people about it. And they tell everyone. So I think from like the August El Sina shit to the, it's just like this isn't, people are never going to accept this. Yeah. Even Will talk about ayahuasca is a bit like, there's a thing in 12 step programs where you don't talk about it.

I'm having a skate ramp built next door. Hope that works for everybody. Sonically. I thought we'd be done by now. I thought we'd be done. I said, guys, start right at 1212 sharp. But Alex Media. Yeah.

Ladies and gentlemen. Weezy. It should sound proof of studio, I think. Why do that? Why do that when you could not do that? Save some money. Yeah. Yeah.

I'm saved. What? It didn't blow 80 bucks like that. All that foam. Yeah. The, what you think? Egg cartons is grow on trees.

Um, the, uh, so, so they're on, so with 12 step programs, you don't talk about people that in AA don't say they're in AA because what happens is, if you get drunk,

then everyone goes, oh, AA doesn't work. Yeah. So with, with Will and ayahuasca, it was a bit like, and there were some memes after,

of like when you've done I and it works and you've done I and it's like Chris and well but but but I mean and again it's I could write and I could I could do a show of like like the the depth of it was is was insane like the like back in the hot and then it was wild in pre-production we definitely didn't want to do like a bunch of Chappelle show shit. I know those questions have been ran into the ground. And I think I've seen probably every interview regarding it. I don't know. You guys related to that anyway?

Go ahead. Absolutely. We don't know about breakups. There's one question that I don't think you've been asked. What was the first conversation you and Chappelle had after the fallout to start back to be friends again? How did that even happen? I think she was on Oprah And I

With Cosby I mean Even when you go Oprah He was on Oprah You're like what How am I can It's all so fucking insane Like what happened

And I just call him I think It wasn't friendly Was it something he said on Oprah That that made you want Oh was many thing Yeah no it was It wasn't friendly

It wasn't like It wasn't friendly until whatever year that once that would have been 06 it was friendly maybe the night

the night Harland died by some of the comedy story that was maybe 09 I don't know what year it was but and then we talked there and then it just kind of like

started trending in a better direction because I mean obviously everyone is always more interested in the negativity and the breakups. I'm always just curious about the redemption, like how that comes back together. I mean, rarely when people fall out these days, there's the obvious,

there's the obvious, uh, have more in common, the through line history, that stuff. That just goes a long way. You know what I mean? Like going like,

when you bring up, where when I brought up Hollywood Shuffle, like, the thing I think about with Hollywood Shuffle is we were writing half-baked. It was on Comedy Central. And, and it shows like, let's just keep watching.

It's like, it's due the next day. I'm like, dude, we have to, if we hadn't stopped watching, we, we would have written the movie.

Like, the movie would have never been made. Because it was like, we were just like, oh, we got to. So just shit like that, where it's just,

like little moments of like, ah, or people do steal, steel car radio, like just shit like that that's like a, there's a million of them. So that's, they're just you can't, I think Seinfeld did like you can make any, you can get new anything except old friends. Like you can't get new old friends. Like you can't get. I'm not going to have that kind of relationship with anybody. The history was more important than the fallout. It's neck and neck. But, but, yeah, it's just like you don't, it's, I, there aren't people like him to grow on trees in terms of like what they're like, what he's like anyway as like a unique person

to talk to. And to have the, the emotional history and like, time has just like thousands of hours spent together. So that's the thing where that's like the consideration. And even if I don't talk to him for six months, it's like, yeah, it's like there's no, it's one of these things where like he'll probably not have a better friend than me and I probably want to have a better friend than him. So let's deal with each other.

Well, meaning you can like, you can live to 200. You're not going to beat it. Right. Like, that's kind of how I feel about it. It's like you can, I mean, and vice versa. It's like, which we've yelled at each other several times. But I thought with, which I'd never got to a point publicly of too much disrespect, though. No, because I don't, it's not, it wasn't, I don't, I respect him.

So I respect him and I appreciate him. So it's not like, it's, he really did like give me a huge opportunity. So I can't. it's like ethically i can only get so it's like wouldn't be right right to to like to only to even talk about anything personal like that like it's i have too much yeah i've respect for him generally and i respect you know like and i per like i respect them as like a comedian i've

never met right like just absolutely amazing and then uh and then to like he specifically help me so I can't I there's not you'd have to really you'd have to get like that vice from casino where he's got the guys head in a vice that you'd have to do that you'd have to waterboard me for a while is Dave um as far as comedians go where do you have eight okay uh no I've no I don't it's a to me it's just like a photo finish it's just like different people for different shit like types of material or style or like the the decathlon or the triathlon of like sketch stand up to you know what I mean like the category so it's like certain people are but yeah it just it's like I don't it's just it's a scrum of who the

who sometimes it's that like you know when did you know that you wanted to do like comedic writing when I was little one of my favorite movie stripes yeah yeah and I think that's when I after that maybe my mom let me watch like raw Eddie Murphy yeah but for me comedy was introduced through the movie stripes yeah but I don't I would never watch a movie like that today well they don't make him well what do you mean

what do you mean by you wouldn't watch it today I think my sense of humor just changed. Yeah. Well, you're like 10. That's what a lot of these movies don't hold up at all. Yeah.

Because Stripes is like, you want to talk about a horrible plot. It's like, is there a plot? No, there's not. There's really not. Because that's how Bill Murray,

they would like, they would just have like the shoot dates. Yeah. And it's like, you're going on army base. And we're going to you and Harold or in the army. Yeah. Kind of.

Right. I don't know. Yeah. The Germans are coming. Yeah. Yeah. And then the other's a fucking camper. Yeah.

then you go to Germany yeah for real we'll just cut away to John we'll cut to John Gannon we'll cut to this guy it's like and we can't get that he's dating Calice now

so we can't get stripes that is so that is like a hilarious so awkward but okay yeah where I used to do that game with an ex of mine where we're like do you hear his dating the greatest of all time

was Kathy Griffin and Steve Wozniak the founder of Apple it's the craziest relationship let love win yeah you know what um so i yeah when i was little i just wanted to be in comedy so and then my brother was comedian so i got to go to clubs and i was like 14 15 so that right there is just a huge should you use comedy growing up as like a survival school yeah and i was like

i remember i was in high school and my brother one of my brother said to my other brother like you're not even the funniest one of the family meal is i was like in pregnant this. I don't know. And also that's like, a great bit on Twitter the other day. Yeah. I don't know if you're funny.

What's that about block words? Yeah. So, so now I had to block Matthew Pair. You just I mean the fallout. You didn't see the genius in the bit. Yeah, yeah.

I really don't even know what he. That's how blocked I am. Like I got layers on fucking layers. My computer. foam shoots out if I type it up. So, yeah, when I was a little kid and then here's a crazy

So Eddie Murphy's on Saturday Live So that's 81, 82, 83. Yeah, right? 84, baby two. So I'm old enough to have, I, we couldn't, we had one TV in the basement and I would watch us and now I like couldn't believe it.

that this i didn't it's like what is sketch comedy was fucking insane so i would run up my parents would get home and i'd run up a step and then finally i said to my mom uh i was like hey i need to watch saturday night live it's important and i was like nine i remember thinking like what are you talking about it's important i never said it's important right so i was like into it uh like in a way I didn't like whatever it's it's like there's something self-congratory about that story that I don't like but like I was fucking it was a I had a weird connection to it quickly so so that was when I and then clubs and I was like that's great and then I got an NYU film school so and then I got to go to New York and go to school and then dropped out after a year but

it was always kind of like headed in like funny filmmaking stage up, whatever, sketches. Did that expand beyond your brothers being funny? Were your parents in that rhythm as well? My dad would, like, steal material. Like, I'd realize he'd stole it. From, like, Dean Martin and Franks thatching. My mom wasn't especially funny.

But my dad and my brother, got you. Irish households are unintentionally funny. They're not trying to be funny, but it's fucking hilarious. Yeah. Like a dark, dark way. You've seen a. dark play son. That's what an Irish

house is like all the time. We had there were ten of us, so it was pretty wild. Yeah. My trauma is hilarious at the end of the day. We'll say. Well say. There's no resolution. What was it like, speaking up trauma, what was it like directing the

444 documentary, I guess, we'll call it? That was fun in that I didn't it was fun I don't it was fun I don't I it was fun talking to Will talking to Chris talking to or talking to Anthony talking to like talking to Kendrick talking to people that I some people I knew some people I didn't um it was weird being white doing it yeah and quickly for those that don't know because I think it was just on title exclusion yeah it was only in title

When 444 came out, Neil directed this piece of content that had black men talking about their feelings. Yeah, basically interviewing black dudes about the themes of their record. Yeah. And it's just Jay, Jay Z is such a big, like you never even, it's like you never needed to just hear rumors about what he thought. Like I would just go like, did he? Yeah. I had never talked. I talked to him a couple times.

it I whatever it was it was fun it was I like talking to the guys and I liked but the music industry is insane how did how was that pitch to each person like to Kendrick did I don't know how I I know he wanted um uh fucking Kenyan Ferris to direct it and he didn't want it he didn't earn that time um so it worked its way down to me uh yeah I'm number two. But I know one had seen three mics from Jay's team. No one, no one knew I was the King of Bimo comedy. But, but, but, but, but yeah, so it was, it was, it was, it was cool. But it's even like, it's all every so, you know, it's like Kendricks and people and it's all just felt like, it's

also overheated in the music best, because everyone's such a big deal. Yeah. And everyone around them is just gassing them off all the time. So just having a weird, it's hard to just have a weird, a real conversation. Yeah. With people. But Will I knew a little bit before and I knew, like there were people I had relationships with. Seam around the ayahuasca tank. This was, this was before I am.

He had totally about I. And I was like, I will say. Clearly didn't work. Yeah. No, no, I can't say that. Favorite Kobe memory. Kobe directed a commercial for me.

Yeah, I directed a few commercials with Kobe. He did a thing, an impressive. He had his right arm was in a sling. And he shot. He was on the free throw line, and he shot on the other free throw from the other, for the other basket, underhand and hit the rim.

Which sounds like what? But it was like, the fuck what are you doing um i have that that's one of my favorite like what are you doing the other one i had a meeting with mike myers one time in his house and he did the walk behind the couch from austin power the fuck without context just did it he was kind of like he it barely needed to be done and he did it that was pretty great that's um Kobe was again the funny thing about Kobe is if you wanted to film him, it had to be within 10 minutes of his house because you weren't going to make him more famous.

Yeah. And you weren't going to, it's a Nike commercial. It's like, what do you got to hold, not pay me? Right. You just, all those relationships are like, you know, like, yeah, I'll do it. But like, you have to shoot it near my house. Like 10 minutes. And I'll be there.

And when you work with an athlete like that, you have a 90 minute window, like door to door. So we should. I'll get there at nine. I remember them, like, Toby's getting here at 940. You'll go in at 9.42. You'll speak to him. They'll do. And it's all so set up like that.

And LeBron, same thing. I did this break commercial with him. And it's like, he gets a checks amount of time. It's like the president, basically. Which I get. They, you know, they make hundreds of millions. They're worth so much money.

And they're worth so much money. the people around up. So, and clearly they, at one point, they just go, why am I waiting? And then the people are scared forever. So, so they just, everyone's on their, like, on their, on their, on their, uh, but, uh, but I didn't get the satsy like me. Next question. That's, that's why a lot of, like, my heroes, quote unquote, I don't really want to interview or interact with. And maybe that's my fragile ego. I'm like, they're probably going to hate me. And I don't want to live with your idols or somebody looked up to. And when you met them, you was like, oh, he's a dick.

Not going to tell you. Would have been great podcasting, though, if I told you the story. We would clip it, headline everything. Yeah, yeah, never would have clipped it. It's not what they were about. It's more just about their relationship. Most people are, like, very nice, very respectful. Some people are, like, a little bit like, nah.

Yeah. That's the shit where it's just like, oh, I won't, I won't deal with this anymore. I just won't do it. Like, I won't work with you or whatever. I just like, it's not worth. It's just not fun. But like LeBron's super nice to me and super respectful and like, stuff Neil like, like knows who I am. Yeah, like. So, um, it also, how old are they? Is a big one. Yeah. If they're 35, they were 15 when Chappelle show was up. So like there are, I did an NFL commercial recently and one of the, um, it. the guys like good to see you know and i want to go we've never met son yeah you were just 15 which appellate show came out so you think we were like that always it just makes it easier but

even the younger guys uh i think everyone because it's such a cult classic knows half big i don't care how yeah but yeah that's it's it's all kind of the same thing where they it's all just like I respect you for whether you, whether it's stand up or Chappelle Joe or happy or whatever. It's always like a pretty positive. Not always, but mostly it's pretty. Did you get any publishing on the Carter's Everything's Love album? You think I'm going to. Have you seen me avoid several JZ traps here?

Have you seen me pull back? I'll redirect the question. What was it like hearing Beyonce harmonize? a bit from half baked. Oh, you know what? I actually agree with, I think I've voiced displeasure about this before. When you,

it used to be, I think it's slightly changed now, but when you, if you say lyrics on, in a special or sing song it, you used to have to pay publishing. Yeah. As a comedian,

which is like fucked up. And so the fact that, everything music musicians lyrics are they had they own the publishing like so many different ways performance segment whatever that the fact that bison sayang you're cool i don't even remember how she said it but but i i was like why don't we get money for this like why don't them from yes like why don't the people why doesn't work both way yeah um and i i don't i don't i truly don't know. But I could have taken a night. I could even see a lawyer though. That is kind of an easy thing to debunk. All she did say was fuck you, you're cool. We all knew what she was

referencing. Yeah, yeah, yeah. All she really said was fuck you, you're cool. Really? I was ready to pour 150 grand in the lawsuit. I was ready to go to the mattresses for this fucking thing. Where's my fucking money, lady? I know it's in there. Before we get to voice mails, do you think the champs could happen in this era? Yeah, the champ, there was nothing wrong with the champs other than... It was one of my favorite podcast.

It seemed racist because we were only interviewing black people, but now I think it's called being anti-racist. Now there's a term for it, and it's anti-racist. But people thought it was racist, which is insane to me, but like... It was great. There were no...

Say again? Think pieces would happen today. Sure, but what I'm saying it... One of those. Yeah, sure. But the... But the reason we did that, the reason I wanted to do it like that is because like, Marin and Rogan didn't know any black people. Yeah. So I was literally like, I know pretty much every black comedian.

I just do a podcast and have them on every week. Like that was the absolute idea. Yeah, it was the impetus for it. And yeah, but now it would be, even then they thought it was racist. In 2020, it wouldn't survive. Let's be honest. George Floyd Summer, forget it. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. I haven't Tiffany Haddish on to tell her life story during the George Florida. Yeah, I'm, well, no, that would have been a cute one, but like, but that would have been heartwarming, but yeah. Do we have voicemails? You've got mail. Yeah, Neil, so just so you're aware, we have a, uh, Patreon and people can leave voicemail messages to our Patreon. That's the problem is I can never do a Patreon.

No, what people are like, I'm just going to get running. He'd be surprised. How poor could you be? No, I know, but then I look at you. guys and I'm like anyone can do it. I think these guys have outgrown their Patriots.

I hate to fucking go on the record but guys fucking working for UPS go like, put this aside for Rory and Miles as they make you sign for a 75 inch

fucking flat screen. Sir? See, can't wait for the extra bonus footage, sir. Thanks for that shitty extra footage

you give me every week. Man, won a bargain. Been to the grocery store lately? It's so expensive. I could never imagine just 20 bucks for a pot episode. Cut this out because I want them to continue to pay. It's four after episode to month.

Yeah. Have you been to Trader Joe's lately? I would never pay for a subscription for the rest of my life once you see how much Trader Joe's cost. It's insane. Yeah. Totally agree. I ransack Whole Foods weekly.

It's big money, my bad? No. I steal. He steals. He steals from Whole Foods. Yeah, but it's a weird thing where it's like, televangelism where like Tim Dillon has a Rolls

Roots and a Patreon. You know like it's great. You guys are fine with it on Patreon. Of course. But I'm saying like if I were I guess if you can't get it any other way, you can charge one.

Yeah. You said televangelis. I'm rewatching righteous Jim Stones. One of the crazy shows. I've still never seen it. Oh. Wow. What's funny is there's like

I'm finding it in ayahuasca now too. Right. There's this thing where they want to be famous and they want money and they want they it it's like human beings can't not do it like they just have to do it whatever it is it's like they have god juice you drink it you meet god right that's not enough they need it they're skimming the attention that you give to god they want it for themselves and they it's just like it's so disappointing it sounds like the Illuminati.

Yeah, that's sick. Have you ever been any Eyes Wide Shed parties in Hollywood? Sorry. No, it goes right into the voicemail. No, I don't know

where you're going to take this edit from, but maybe out of the Eyes Wide Shep Party. Not even really close. I mean, there was the, the Netflix party

that I talk about in blocks, it was like pretty close. Yeah. To, to like, it's not Illuminati. It's not, Like, we're all there, but the setting is Illuminati.

Yeah. The lighting is a lot. It's all candlelight. Like, no kids were fucked, but it's still a powerful party. Yeah, but it was like insane. Yeah. Dion Cole almost cried when he saw Eddie Murphy. He'd never seen him before.

No one had ever, any Murphy doesn't do anything. So like, you see him and you're like, what Burr had never met him? It was just like, like shit, were you like, what? Yeah. Yeah. So anyway. Voice mails. Wow.

Anyway, yeah. So they can leave voicemails. Wow. What a life. Anyway, let's listen to voicemails on a Patreon. This is playing on the regular episode. Sorry, Aluminati. It won't happen again.

I'm sure I learned my lesson. I feel like I should change this voicemail because it's about the Illuminati. Is it really? I'll play. We'll see how it goes. We'll see how it goes. What's going on gang?

It's your boy, Shana Prince from Houston, Texas, currently based out of Dallas, Texas. I just had a quick question for y'all since most of you all work in the music industry and have close personal relationships with people who are in the music industry artists and all of that. I just had a quick question because as of real recent, I've been just seeing like an overwhelming

amount of people in a comment sessions just talking about humiliation rituals and Illuminati and all of this shit with a sexy red little video leaking and with Drake painting his fingernails. Now, I've just been seeing so much about people who think that all of these

things happening are people's humiliation rituals. And I just want to ask y'all, since y'all personally know artists in the game, do y'all, do they ever talk to y'all about, like, you know, different shit like that? Like, uh, any secret booty hole parties? I mean, I'm sure, you know, everybody, you know, is people in power they're going to abuse their position all the time regardless. But I'm talking about, like, on some serious, like, some serious, like,

Illuminati type activity. Do y'all ever be hearing about that type shit? And can y'all please tell these outside niggas, looking in that they sound ridiculous, swearing that everything has something to do with the Illuminati if a nigga get rich and famous. Thanks. Love you guys. I had also dropped a...

Funny one of the... Well, I can confirm that sexy red is in the Illuminati. Yes. She was number one draft. Again, it's the whole... All of showbiz is a humiliation party. Sure, yeah. The whole thing. Yeah. It's just constantly

trying not to be rejected and then mostly getting rejected. So you don't need, I don't need a party. Just come to a new joke night. The whole fucking thing is a, is a humiliation party. For real, like it's, it's already hard enough

to make songs and then release them to the pub, to monsters. Yeah. And opinionated, entitled monsters. But, but yeah, so it's already, you know, there don't need to be another level.

level of like and also any most everyone I've met in show business that's like I can't or whatever is pretty extraordinary I there are very few people where I'm like yeah let's talk did he get yeah like like makes sense like Snoop is like one of the most charismatic people honor it's not like kind of right he's one of I've heard stories about like should doing weird whatever not no booty whole shit but I'm just saying like gang shit. But just, yeah, just gang shit. Like, is that it? I don't know. You have to be very, very talented to be famous for being talented. Absolutely. Like, I was asking a print of mine, a producer, I was like, who's the best, most talented person who's working with it? He's like, it's disappointing,

but Adele. She's so fucking good. It's crazy. It's like, people I work with are so good. I've seen the Mount Rushmore of say shit that's so, fast and funny, it's like blinding. So I can't be like, well, but also the booty hole. You have to be able to do the job. That's the thing. It's like you, so it's a very rare talent. Obviously, it's comforting to think like they don't even deserve every, just about everyone

deserves it. Yeah. And I mean, you kind of can't win for losing with the humiliation part with fame. When you bring up Will Smith, the first thing they're going to discuss. is the Jada shit and no one's going to interrupt be like he was really good in Ali everything that you do great is always going to fall to the wayside

of the humiliation Will fucking Smith the legend that Will Smith is 100% we'd bring up you know that Jada shit is crazy and no one will bring up his catalog agreed and there's also a thing of if you release anything

there's like there's almost like AI of what the comments will be Yeah. There's like the he needs to stop doing this. Jade is bad. He needs to apologize. White man's trying to get him. Like there's there's for any for any content there's like the the automatic responses. So you think it's a like a gift and a curse having a dad or a parent as famous as Will Smith because I always talk about how talented I think Jaden and Willow are. And if Jaden Smith. wasn't Will Sun, I think that he would be a bigger artist. Well, there's a weird thing that, like, Nepo Baby thing. But a lot of them are really talented. It's just a weird.

It's a weird thing where I get it sometimes. Like, Dave, it's like, Dave didn't write a joke fucking, you know, I know what I mean? Like, you guys probably love it. Like, if it weren't for a joke, Yeah, that's true. I was talking an NBA player and they were, they were talking about they got a max deal for playing with somebody.

And he's like, I got a max deal once, but I've gotten two deals since. Yeah. So like, yeah, like, will, uh, Jaden is, is, uh, that, that single's great. You know, like the, the icon signal is playing great song. And it's like, what would you want them to do? Yes, we know Jaden. because of his... Drop your self in a vat of asses,

like the Joker and come back with a different name. So Jaden instead should just be a bum and not do anything and not take the opportunity. I mean, again, if you ask follow-ups to these people, they don't have an answer.

And by the way, if Jaden come in, came in, they'd be like, oh shit. Of course. I love you. Yeah, yeah, big fan. Also, like, Blue Avi, for example,

there's no way that girl's not going to be talented. Right. Her parents are fucking Jay-Z and Beyonce. Like, Jaden's parents are talented. as fuck. Of course their kids are going to be great. Like we're angry. We're angry maniacs because our parents were angry maniacs. Irish. Irish. Quote, Irish.

Do we have one more voice mail? Yeah, let's this is an interesting one to pivot from the last one. I heard my favorite pie squad. It's not the goddamn tape. I heard Usher one time. Dave did shows Radio City

that was on and Kendrick did one of them, Usher did one of them. And we were backstage. And before this, we were all getting ready to go on it. And Usher screamed. And I was like, God damn. Like, again, just like Usher, a very talented guy. But everyone that, even the most out of person is only showing about 15% of how talented they could be.

Like, they never get to just sprint. And I've seen enough of those things where I'm like, one of the Nike commercials was just showing people kind of sprinting. Like they're so much better at this than you could ever be. Like you get near a professional golf or tennis player, whatever, basketball player. They're all so fucking big, you can't believe it. My dog got scared once. It's pit bull. He got scared once.

Blake Griffin came around a corner and my dog backed up. Because like humans don't. Typical humans don't look like. You didn't tell me they were six and nine. What are your thoughts on Victor since we're talking? It's insane. Have you seen? Even, yeah, like when he's, when the guys before the game, it's like, you can't,

anytime I'm around a basketball player, I go, oh, I can't guard him. I can't. No, he's not going to have him. Like, they're so big, but my favorite was the palace, the, the, the, bra, the palace. You can see got, the one guy realizes how big Germain O'Neill is. Like, what the fuck? It's, it's like, the whole thing. It's just like, wait, you're so much.

bigger when I come rushing at you than you are from from 300 feet away weird this whole thing is an optical illusion but it is like that with talent too where it's like so these funny people are so funny these these musical people are so musical

like I don't know no no no Maul and I had like an actual business meeting with Kevin Durant and the entire time I was like dude is that a real human like yeah people don't look like this yeah I know

It was so hard to describe. It was like looking at an alien. It was like, how are you a human? Yes. Is that you can't argue with it, whereas you can go like, are there booty hole parties? No. Adele just is seven feet tall and hit a three point. Del is just that good.

Yes. There has to be booty whole parties. I remember Samberg telling me about doing digging a box with Timberlake. And he goes, his waveforms were fucking perfect. on the thing. Like, yes, they are flawless. They can do a flawless thing. Yeah. And it's very lucrative. And it, it does hurt your feelings because they are better than you at that. Yeah. They're just like, oh, you're better than me. Okay. That's why the NBA now where it's like, is LeBron that all that shit? It's like, these guys would fucking destroy you. When Scalabrini was doing that shit, where it was like,

I'm so much closer to LeBron than you are to me. But even that, people don't really understand. what I mean. Yeah. But that's and there's no booty hole party. There's no booty hole party. But you comfort yourself with its booty hole party. This should be you. All it takes to sing like Adele is get fucked in the ass. Yeah, that's all it takes. And then you're, you have, you can sing in perfect pitch.

Live endlessly, four nights a week. All he had to do was get to that party. And get fucked in the ass. And you're there. And what's weird is, a lot of times you get to write songs too. Fuck, I don't know what is in these dicks. Just bring a candle.

Should we do? Yeah, last one. All right, cool. Hey, my favorite pod squad. What's up? It's Sha. This is kind of something I wrote into you guys about before when you talked about the Kirk Franklin thing. But something just popped up and I need you guys as advice on it.

I spoke about how the person. What the fuck kind of podcast is this? We talk about Kirk Franklin and I need your advice. Go ahead. Just for context, remember if you're not, well, Kirk Franklin, remember when Kirk Franklin's, it was the situation where there was a whole family. Oh, yeah, when he found out his parents weren't his parents.

He found, yeah. So at this late age in his life, he found out the family that he knew wasn't his biological family, that whole situation. So similarly, that's what she's calling in about. Gotcha. So who I thought was my father in 2020, he wasn't. And then to find out my biological father actually passed away. a year before finding out this information, right?

Well, now we're in 2023. This whole entire time, I've never, like, gotten close with any of my father's kids. I tried. I reached out. It's just more of a Facebook or social media kind of relationship. Like, they're kind of shying away from, you know, I guess, wanting to talk to me further. Okay, fine, cool. But now I just saw that one of my dad's kids, which would be,

my sister posted that her aunt passed away. And this particular aunt was my dad's sister. And the funeral is in New York where I am. I've never met anyone from my dad's side of the family, my biological father, that is. And now I'm wondering, should I pop up at this funeral? This is of my dad's sister to see if I can, I don't know, maybe get to know the family more or should I just leave it alone and not go and just say,

forget it? But I've never met anyone and they all don't live. New York. So I'm just trying to see what you guys were doing in this situation. Thanks, y'all enjoy the rest of your week. That was so confusing. It was directed by Christopher Nolan. Great movie. Well, look, I mean,

death of the funeral is out. I love the movie. I mean, so you might be willing to live a real episode of that. I think before people ask questions or advice, they should say the question out loud three times to themselves. So they realize how dumb it sound sometimes. And no offense to this woman.

No, call it on, Roy. No, no offense. No, no offense. No, no offense. No, he's been meaning to say that on the podcast anyway that everyone should. It's hard. It's hard. Salonra. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, fuck. How is this going to play out?

You've never, these people have already shown you they don't particularly care to get to know you. You're going to show up at a funeral uninvited where they're grieving over a relative they knew. Tell me how that's going to play out. They're all going to stop. Be like, oh, shit. the sister we didn't know about

at a funeral? Yeah, but I mean if you don't do it now, then when? Don't what is that convoy like ever? Don't ever just know who your family is? Hey, I see you're grieving over this open casket. Now let's address us not knowing

each other and my father having a secret kid somewhere. Well, I mean, you got family, you got all like the family's there. Look, everyone's there. Everyone's there. So you get that one opportunity. You don't have to set out of group texts. It's like going to Target. everybody it's right here everything

thank you thank you that's almost that's like the equivalent the target of black funerals exactly it's like the equivalent of like proposing at someone's wedding like you're going to show up to a funeral and be like let's make this about me I mean when she said I

should I show up and just and I thought and start macing people fuck it why not have at it everybody's already upset how much more upset could they B. Now it's the time

pounce. It's a conversational species. Hopefully we help that lady. I would say yes, go. I would say go. No. You would say go?

I mean, I guess it doesn't make. Everybody's there. Then we should go there. They don't, but to his point, like, they don't, they're not, they don't, they're not interested in her. Somebody, I think Joe DeRosa did a joke about like, his parents put up up for adoption and, It was like, at somebody who was like, have you tried to find them?

And he's like, no, I got the message. Yeah. Pretty clearly. Like, it seems like maybe they got the message of, uh, of, uh, of, uh, don't come to the channel. I mean, I would say go, fuck it. They, they barely talk to her on Facebook. Now, you get your one shot. It's like, you know, and you pay your respects to a relative.

You maybe didn't know the relative, but you pay your respects. And if they accept you, cool. And if not, cool too. Fuck it. And also, what are you going to? Yeah, I don't. But you do. hear those stories of like, I feel like 80% of the time it is pretty positive. We're like,

no, I have a sister. I didn't know I had. Yeah. So we'll say, I'll say, I mean, give us a call back and let's know if you went, oh, you didn't go. Well, how about the repass? I feel like that's worse, though. At least it's more social. Because people are drunk at the repast. Way better than the open casket. Yeah, but the repass. Yeah, so after the funeral, when they have like, you know, to go to somebody's house or location where it's food. Oh, they, oh, I've heard that as a Irish. Irish Wake. Yeah. Right.

Black people call it a repass. We call it a week too, but repass. Well, Irish Wake is, there's like a party, people drinking shit. Yeah. Because Irish, well, Irish drink anywhere. It doesn't have to be a wake. Yeah, but what a better place than a funeral. Yeah.

Roy just drinks when he wakes. Yeah. Wake him. Should be a rapper. Yeah. It's good on Sandra. Well, hopefully she sends us another callback and let us know if she went or hopefully she went and it was a fucking chaos.

That would be great. Great content. Fill it. Yeah. We'll go with there. We're a body camp. Because I mean, we're strangers too. We'll re-bors you.

Part of the Patriot Street. One month three, if you go crash that funeral. We're a body cam to a funeral that no one wants you to come to. I have a body cam at a funeral. With bear maze. That P-O-B. Yeah. Mason people.

Surprise, motherfucker. Hey, man. Second Amendment. This was fun. Thank you so much for coming. Yeah. I appreciate it. Yeah.

My first time meeting you, obviously, I've been a fan. of yours for years. Love your work. Love what you do. I'm mad we didn't get half big two, but that's either here, no, there, whatever. I have nothing, I have nothing to do with it. I mean, like, nothing to do with it. Nothing to do with part two not happening. Did it not happen? Half big two? No. Is there a half big? No, I think they made one. Like a year ago. No, I see, no. With Jack Harlow and DC Young Fly? I mean, it's close. Yeah, I can't. They did make one. Yeah. Yeah, who wait, who, this movie aside, who would you want to play? because now we're in the era of remakes.

Good Burger 2 is coming out. Again, I don't even know. Nothing. Nobody. Don't make it. No, but your specific role in the burger spot. Oh, the burger. Yeah, it's so funny.

Oh, I had a good Beyonce story that I forgot. I saw Jay-Z at a restaurant in L.A. And I just went up and said what's up to him. And I was walking away. He's like, yeah, man, you only see my wife? And Beyonce was sitting next time. I was like, oh, hi. But I just didn't, I was just looking at, and then I didn't want to be like,

there's, I, there's no good way to play it. It's also like his wife. Hey, miss. Let me upgrade you. Let me get you good on entre's, miss. All right, great job, guys. What a time. Imagine telling Beyonce at dinner, your man is when you have friends?

I mean, that wouldn't go well. Yeah, no. I get it. You're married, but you can have friends. Neil, thank you, man. Very cool. Pleasure having you. God bless.

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