New Rory & MAL - Episode 219 | The Andre 3000 Album Nobody Asked For

Episode Date: November 17, 2023

Unleash the flutes! Andre 3000 is finally giving us that “solo” album. Enough about woodwind instruments let's talk about other wood. Will Smith is trending again and once again it’s not looking good. His recent hex capades lead to a convo about us being surprised while watching c*rn. Back to music, we discuss the state of hip-hop after recent comments from Lil Yachty. Then we discuss Benzino’s issue with Busta Rhymes and YG’s Instagram photo. It’s time for voicemails. We give relationship advice about when/where you should propose. Tune in as the guys discuss all of this + more! P.S. Hello from London. Our show is tonight with the mandem. Follow The Team:Rory - https://www.instagram.com/thisisrory/Mal - https://www.instagram.com/mal_bytheway/Eddin - https://www.instagram.com/thankyoueddin/Julian - https://www.instagram.com/julian__nicholas/Demaris - https://www.instagram.com/demarisagiscombe/Merch: https://newrorynmal.com/Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/newrorynmalYouTube Subscribe: https://rb.gy/hk7up Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoicesSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Is that three-pack? Yeah. New Andre 3000. New shit, shit, shit. That's good. Is that the Maris? It's Meg the Stallion. Do I think Lizzo playing the flu?

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from packing? You have jet lag already in New York? I'm good. Okay. Will Smith got fucked in the ass. How do you know it was him getting fucked with ass? Well, I would never doubt his assistant in Tasha K. It was on the internet, so it's true. I don't even know how they was able to do that. Get fucking ass. Like on set? Probably like some Lou.

No, I mean, sit down and talk about Will Smith like that. That is true. That's kind of fucking up. His wife says worse about him. It's Tasha K. Like, let's remember who this is. Who is Tasha K? I really don't know who that is. For those that don't know, Will Smith's former assistant and best friend sat down with the credible Tasha K. And they discussed Will Smith being fucked in the ass on set by Dwayne Martin. She plays some audio from it. Sure.

Why not? There's nothing you going to do to please her. You can buy her 80 cars. You can get her 80 private jets. If she's itching for that baby leg, she want that baby leg. You can beat a person so much. that they fall into submission. So I open the door to Duane's dressing room,

and that's when I see Duane and having anal sex with Will. Why is this allowed? Why are assistants allowed to even speak? And I don't mean that in a derogatory way. But there needs to be some vetting process for someone to be able to just accuse someone to getting fucked in the ass because they have a microphone. No, it's not even about that.

Like, what does it matter? If Will gets fucked in the ass? Oh, I don't particularly care. Like, who cares about it? about like I just don't understand how this is like news and this is like people are sitting down on a I don't know what is this is this the white table white table talk white table and just saying these things if it's true or not it doesn't matter well in Tasha Kay's defense she owes car to be a lot of money so I think she'll probably sit with anyone that is anything salacious to say but judging

about how the gay smear campaign with Obama that kind of came and went former president of the United States. People cared for like an hour? Nobody cares. I just don't know if the Will Smith one's going to stick like that. Nobody cares about who's gay, who's not. It's been a rough year for me. Dwight Howard was gay last week.

Nobody cares this. Probably gay this week. Probably yeah. Nobody cares this week. You know what I mean? Like it's like who gives a fuck about this? Like I just don't understand now. She had some backlash from sitting down talking about Cardi.

I mean, I don't know if. if it's any backlash coming from Will Smith's legal team about this? Well, I mean, this gentleman does seem like he may have some experience in anal sex. You know from experience or what? Just, you know, I just have a hunch by how he's speaking. Oh, you're talking about the assistant. So what do I know? I ain't going to loss.

But why are you talking about Will's dick, too, at that? Somebody sitting down with that shirt on, I just don't believe him. Why? Is it the striped collar? Not out the good Versace. That's the prototypical Nigerian scammer shirt. That's the Marshall's Versace. Yeah, like, I'm not believing, though.

I can't take you serious with that type of shirt. He looks like he works out in hard bottoms. But look at his hand posture. That means business. He definitely stops at Aldo. Are we hitting the Aldo? Why is every, what's so with Will Smith? Why?

Why is everyone? What's up? Like, with everybody like, he can't, Will can't stay out of the headlines. with some bullshit attached to his name. I think it's an attack on him. I think it's Chris Rock, Carmen? Maybe Chris has a longer reach than we think.

It's been downhill since. They did a Fresh Prince reboot. The shit was great. Will was in great spirits for quite some time until that slap. Listen, I don't think that Will Smith, I don't think that Chris Rock even, I don't think he cares about that moment anymore. I think he had dressed it on his special on Netflix.

He did what he did. I think Chris Rock has moved on from this shit. But for whatever reason, Will Smith's name is in the tabloids every week, whether it's from his wife, whether it's from, you know. Tasha Kay. This dude's name is Brother Bilal. Like, I just don't, like, Will was always, like, the cool dude in Hollywood. Like, now all of a sudden it's just like everybody is trying to tear Will down or defame his character, his name. I just don't, I don't know.

I mean, Cardi to be winning that case might have been the worst thing for Hollywood and quote-unquote secrets. Because now Tasha Kay is going to be in the red for the rest of her life. She's always going to owe. She's always going to have to file for bankruptcy. It's just going to be a continued cycle where she's not going to give a fuck. Like, you would think if someone lost a case of defamation, they would probably not continue to teeter with the line of possible defamation. Like this will could sue if this is in fact. Will as well as Duane.

Is Duane Martin open? gay? Is that a thing that she just put on his jacket too? This has been a rumor for years. This is not the first time I've heard this. Brother Bilal just got up there and just said shit that we all just heard over years. And I don't know why it's like headline, but it's like, okay, you're saying what we heard for years. So because you were a former best friend, first of all, that title former best friend is hilarious. It's wild.

Your former best friend and. former assistant. So yeah, you may have seen some things and are privy to some things that most people are not. But I don't know if that gives it credibility. I mean, if he would have said another name that we never heard, like alleged to be having gay sex with Will Smith, then maybe it's a little more like, oh, first time we heard that. But the Dwayne Martin-Wil-Smith thing has been in, you know, group chats for years. So you think Brother Bilal Bibi is just going for low-hanging fruit? This was something that...

I mean, this is not giving new information where it's shocking. At all. Like, this is not new because it's from his former assistant and best friend, and I guess people feel like it has to be true. Well, let me ask a question outside of this. Women get offended when you bring up the pre-up thing. In Hollywood, typically, the assistant role in the beginning goes to one of your best friends. That's kind of like a thing, I feel like, in entertainment.

Do you give your friend an... NDA when they become your assistant or an NDA period. Not really. If it's your real best friend, not industry best friend, if it's like your real best friend and you made it and then you like, y'all, I'm going to put you on my payroll, you don't want my assistant, I don't want nobody new around me. No, you don't have your real life best friend sign of NDA. But in Will Smith's case, he may need to have any and everybody around him sign an

NDA at this point. Well, is Bibi from West Philly or is this a Hollywood friend? Um, I don't know. It appears, he's in Will Smith's book. I saw that clip. Mm-hmm. Um, but of course, De Mera's is the only one that read that piece of literature. Uh, do you remember hearing about Big Brother, uh, Bilau?

No, I don't. I can't say that I recall. Doesn't mean that he wasn't in there. I just, I don't, Tim, did you sign that NDA? Yeah. Oh, I don't recall. D. D. M.

It must have slipped my memory. Well, there's more, we cut the audio off kind of short, but there's more context that he provides, and he really embellishes it. He said, Will was bent over the couch, and Dwayne was standing up, killing him, murdering. It was murdering there. How long did you have to stay to watch the anal sex

to know that he was smoking it? How many strokes before you know he was, like, killing it? Not only that. If you walk in on two guys having sex and they are, you know, nobody knows that they have sex with each other. I don't think that they keep going once you walk in and like,

you are even able to tell that he's killing it. Well, hold on. Maybe Dwayne, they were caught up in the moment. Maybe he was really serving. Dwayne the Rock. And they didn't even realize that the door opened. And then what do you say? Sorry, gentlemen.

That's possible. My bad. Oh, no, stepbrother. Yeah, stepbrother will. I just don't, like, on a movie set, I'm not, I'm not rolling. I'm not saying that couldn't have happened somewhere, but like in a green room at your movie set. On the set of Hancock.

That's not happening. I mean, hey. That's not happening. I'm just not rolling with it. It doesn't happen like that. Like that's, Will Smith is not risking getting caught on set having sex in this trailer with doing it. Also, why not lock the door? Oh, that kind of what makes it fun, no.

Oh, God. He just wanted to get caught. I'm not about that. Have you guys ever walked in on someone having sex? Plenty of them. Gay sex? Not gay sex. Either.

Oh, yeah. Not gay sex. said regular sex. God sex. Christians. Fissionaries. The way the world's intended. Straight sex, yes, I've walked in on plenty of times.

But, you know, I've never walked in on gay sex happening. Plenty of towns? I went to college. You don't knock? What the fuck? I lived in a dorm room apartment with five other guys. People were fucking. Not each other.

They were women that were. And if they were, it's the journey. Yeah. That's their journey. I walked in on two chicks fucking each other. That's pretty cool. Did you apologize? No, no, I got invited.

You invited yourself? Like, it became a thing. Oh, nice. Did you know what they were? You just... No, yeah, I knew there. There's way more to that story. I'm going to leave out.

But yeah, they were... I left whatever we were hanging and I went to go to the bathroom. By the time I came back, they were naked and mash and clams. And I was like, I'll join. Mash and clams, nice. Yeah, it's clam chowder. I saw that in the Boston.

I think one of them Like such the stereotypical porno set up Like I just was walking Is this the bathroom? No Fuck us We were on the couch And then I left

To go to the bathroom And then when I came back They were And you had no idea That was gonna happen I had to take it I had a shit That was pretty quick that they got to it

It was quick I had an inkling Because you know I don't wash my hands I was literally I was taking out I was in and out That's quick

Yeah I was in and out Yeah And they were like Mashed like the scissors right away No it was eating out It wasn't it wasn't yeah I was gonna say

They weren't high-fiving lips. A little foreplay? Yeah. Okay. Like a good gay foreplay. You're blushing. Like lesbian foreplay? I'm thinking about it now.

Yeah, lesbian foreplay. But if not, hey, that's your journey. Like, man-for-play is, man-on-man for play is just... Call that to Will Smith. Tell us about it. What is it? What's man-on-man-for-ploid? You throw ping-pong balls each other's dicks and, like, hit a home run.

It's like, because men are not, like... Men are not, like, passionate. Women are very passionate. Like, two men is probably like, it's just aggressive. It's like, come here, bro. Yeah,

it's like, what are you out doing? You want your dix like each other. Check ball. You're just morning. Yeah. What's that drill in football when you're lying on your back

you turn around? I don't know. That's what you think gave four plays. Mississippi, what do they call that drill? You know when you like get up and run into each other and whoever tackles?

Yeah. I don't know the name of it. CTE. Yeah. Damn. I don't think that. I'm sure there's men that are like passionate.

it, right, with their gay partners? Like, I imagine there's a lot of, like, choking and... You watch gay porn, tell us. I do not... Do you watch gay porn? No, I don't watch gay porn. Like, male or female, female? The porn in general is not really, like, sensual.

Yeah, no at all. Porn is. There is central porn in violent and fuck our children up. Who wants that? There's sensual porn. I know. There is. It's lesbian. But why don't women watch gay, like...

They do. All right. You just say she doesn't. I... No, she doesn't. I don't speak for all women. Contrary and popular belief. Yomi, do you watch men, gay porn?

I've, like, I've done, like, research. Like, I've watched it for research purposes, but not to try to get off. What are you researching? I don't know. I just wanted to see what's like that. Just, like, out of curiosity. Like, yeah, I've watched, like, transsexual porn. Like, I just wanted to, like, see, like, what it was like.

We could be vulnerable here. I've actually down they clicked on a training video. I've seen the, I've seen the thumbnails. Like, but, like, you don't see. You don't see. You'll see the, until it. it's not revealed they open the pizza box

and she's also packing how long did you stay on the video and so you gotta give it like a five to ten second like whoa you got see where it's going

you don't have to give it ten seconds I hit the comment I scroll down and hit the comments I scrolled down to hit the comments I'm like anyone does anyone else get blindsided by that and all the comments like what the fuck like it's a lot of that so it's good to know people agree you need comments on

porn videos? It depends. What? I've seen a couple. I don't know. I don't leave comments. You wrote first? I read comments. Oh, no, no, no. I don't have an account. I read comments. Pornhub might be the funniest comments. It's some of the funniest ever. Some of the funny shit. It's like Reddit and Pornhubber. People are just so horny. It's like Instagram comments, but like worse.

Oh, now I feel like I kind of want to look at the girls. You should. No, it's some of the funny. I mean, I know they have comments, but usually like, I don't stick around after. post nut clarity. Like I don't, I just don't chill and like look at what others reviewed. You know, like sometimes after you nut though and you just don't want whatever's happening on the screen to keep going.

So you just scroll up and then you just get a screen of comments. And then that's when I'll kind of go through it. She's so hot. Yeah. Pretty funny. No, it's hilarious. Comments are good. I read one comment to do was like, oh, when she first started, she was such a sweetheart. Now she's a bimbo. I was like

I was like, you don't even notice later. following her career arc. Like, what are you talking about? Keeps getting fun. Oh, these ones are kind of nice. Demi is so pretty. All right.

I miss those tits. Oh, there you go. I miss those tits. Who is the male porn star? Question mark, question mark. I mean, that's gonna happen. I loved how they fucked. That's nice.

There's like, I love like when people point out. I would sure fuck her. She's a haughty. People point out continuity errors in porn. Oh, really? That's a different level of point. You know, like, the property sex porn where, like, the girl's like, I'm interested in this apartment.

and she's like broke and has no money. It's like in the continuity, people will notice like her purse is already in the apartment before she enters. And they're like, how would, she's already been there. She lives there. Like it's so funny. El Playboy 21 said, oh, fuck, would love to take these two on. Yeah.

It sounds about right. Yeah. At the Mondrian. But yeah, no, I don't think women really watch gay porn like that because there's no, like, I'm not in that. I don't see myself in that. Like, it takes away from, I don't want to see men have a sex. I know a bunch of straight women who want to.

will only watch like women having sex because you know, it feels more real. Straight women only watch lesbian sex? I know a lot of straight women who will only watch lesbian sex. Why? Because it feels more really. But are they using toys? Is it penetrative? It's usually a lot softer. There's a lot of pussy eating in it. There's a lot of licking.

It's not just some dude with a backwards hat. Like, ugh. Yeah, fucking Tim's on. Like hitting surrounding a bowl of milk. I hate seeing men in porn. It's just, ugh. Me too. I wonder how you get into that business. porn? Like as a guy. A girl, I feel like it'd be

relatively easy. I think now like OnlyFans You've got the drop on the bang, bros. You could just text that. Oh, yeah, there you go too, yeah. I think I missed my window. Oh. A little old for that genre. You got the legacy account. No, you're not.

Really? So, like, start now. To start? No, I know there's like older guys, but like, does anyone start at 33? Yeah, Papa Choo a quick. I don't know. That's the one who started. Like, I understand.

29. Just put his first album out at 30. I just don't know if I could start my porn career then. you comparing these are touched it Ma has a video that's like your like a scouting tape

you can circulate that a girl definitely asked me to do like only fans with her like she's like you can wear a mask I was like it's a backward mask like you're really trying to pitch this to me

she's like yeah we can both wear masks and just no one will know us you what's your percentage yeah that's what I was gonna say you got a management fee I didn't I quickly dismissed what she was saying

why You didn't like consider it? No. But like if shit hit the fan Instead of like going back I would clean the fan Go on Yeah

I would clean her Yeah I would I would just clean the shit Off the fan Rory Like I'm never ever Putting a mask on doing only fans Like I'm not doing that What if three stacks is playing the flute

In the background I might consider While you fuck Then I might consider it Because I'm like a cobra Like you play the flute And I just pop out the box They start with

Hell dude I would subscribe. You slither? Yeah, yeah. Only when three stacks is playing the flute, though. That's the only thing that gets him going. Well, while everyone is listening to this on a Friday, November 17th, Andre 3000 put out a solo album from what we understand is just the flute.

No lyrics. Just music. No bass, no drums, no lyric, just 87 minutes of a flute. I think there's bass and drums. There's other instrumentation going on. I thought it was just wind instrument. No, he's playing the flute though. Well, he's been practicing for 10 years in Soho.

Mm-hmm. So, I mean, I'd imagine this will be good. Avoiding Rory. Yeah. I don't know if I was as disappointed as everyone was when this was announced. I wasn't expecting an Andre 3000 rap album in my lifetime. So, like, I'm not really let down that he's putting out an album that's not a rap album. I would love one.

I just wasn't expecting one. Right. So it's not really a let down to me. We was at LA last week. I popped up on Alchemist. He had an in-store for his album release. And he was telling me that $3,000 that stopped by his studio, he's like, yeah, man, you know, I've been recording working on a new album.

So, you know, Al was already like, what? Like any, you know, this is Alchemist. He's like, a new 3,000 album, like, everything stops. I need to hear this. And he says 3,000 plays the album. And it's, you know, just flute instrumentation. He's waiting for, like, the lyrics to come into bars. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Never happened. Bars never happened. There's no lyrics? No. Damn. No. Three Stacks also said that there's absolutely no lyrics. And he said he went in trying to make a rap album, but this is where the wind took him. Yeah. Which I guess is the only metaphor that we will get because it's all win instruments.

That's funny to you, DeMaris. So we got one bar out of him with that. He played it for Frank Ocean and Tyler the Creator, which can we pull up those quotes? from their sit down with him Listen this is why I respect Tyler and Frank Because you know they revere Andre 3000 So they were trying to find any fucking way To compliment one of their heroes

With this album Tyler was like yeah So I have like all these suitcases And I didn't know how to arrange them But then like track four came on And I arranged them Suitcases Just trying to find anything

To say And then Frank was like I like that one too This is from a three-sax quote Yeah, because you can't You can't, what are you going to say If Andre 3000 plays his album for you And it's just

And it's just like, You can't shit on it I get all the music critics And Reddit people would be like Oh, I'd tell him this is trash And go back to 18s No you wouldn't You'd sit there and you bobbed like

Ooh, I like that flute Yeah Like oh I saw where you was taking us right there Like Yeah But I don't feel like I'm on a walk with the butterflies I don't think Andre's delusional In the sense that he

expects people to, like, it's his crowd to hip hop crowd predominantly. So he's not going to be like, okay, I expect all my fans to love a Woodwind album. I feel like this is just clearly just a passion project. I respected his quote unquote rollout this week, flat out telling everyone what it is. No like mystique, no nothing. Like, hey guys, I'm putting out a flute album and that's it. No, the album comes with a warning label that says warning, no bars. Can we pull up the track list was pretty funny. I think the first song is called Sorry that this isn't a rap album. I love it. The tracklist

was pretty funny. I appreciate the transparency. I'd clean the apartment to this. I'm sure there's going to be some place that you can play it. Yeah, I'm cool. You don't want to do shrooms in London with this? No. Go visit Hogwarts? No. Why was that?

I grew up on 3000 being one of the best rapists I ever heard. And I get it. You know, this is him just expressing himself as an artist. where he's at in his life. I respect that. But, you know, I'm going to hear some 3,000. I'm going to hear, you know, his thoughts. I want to hear what's been in his brain and, you know.

You got it in the tracklist. Think about it. All of his lyrics are. So the first one is, I swear I really wanted to make a rap album, but this is literally the way the wind blew me this time. The second one is the slang word pussy rolls off the tongue with a far better ease than the proper word vagina. Do you agree?

These are all just 100,000. You got that from the book of Julian. Yeah, these are, these are, these are a draft. These are his drafts. These are captions. Vagina is a nasty word. I agree. Vagina feels more vulgar.

But pussy. That would talk. Cunt feels more appropriate than a judge. No, cutt sounds horrible. That's a harsh word. That's a harsh word. It sounds like a wound. It sounds like a war wound.

I just never thought of cunt as an actual vagina. I just think it's something you call people. That are acting cunty. Yeah, it's just like I've never used it to describe an actual vagina. The night in Hawaii when I turned into a panther, and started making these low register purring tones that I couldn't control. Shit was wild.

That's a sound journey. That's shrooms. That's ayahuasca. I know what he's going through there. Can't wait for track three. I like track four. Bipolo disorders. I like this.

Daughter wears a 3,000 button down embroidered. Okay. Swat. 93 till Infinity and Beyonce. You think she's got vocals? You said there's no raps, but Beyonce could sing. Not happening.

Gandhi, Dalai Lama, your Lord and Savior, J.C., Bundy, Jeffrey Dahmer, and John Wayne Gase. What kind of sick-ass-ass-out? I resonate more with the second half of those names. And to you, God's to who? That's fire. That's a picture caption. No, it's not. You're going to go.

De-dele-dele-le-le-le-le-le-le. Dreams once buried beneath the dungeon floor slowly sprout into undenying gardens. I'm so happy he was honest with us. because if he put this track list out on a Tuesday and we assume this was him like rapping and singing, I would think this might be the greatest album of all time, buddy. Some of the greatest names of songs, for sure.

This is great. Does it stream well? First week numbers? What are we projecting? Coil the rate numbers? This is going to tank. Tank is crazy. Damn, all.

Yeah, and this is one of my favorite rappers of all time, but this is going to tank. This is going to be one of those. we'd be like, yo, like, if he ever does an interview years down the line, well, you honestly, where you was taking us with that fruit album? Like, we, like, I get it. But, like, how, how long did you let the shroom seep into the pot? Well, it's not for you.

It is for me. We don't know that yet. This could be, like, sound like Waka, flakabets. They just got the flute. Future uses the flute all the time. This could be Metro booming. He does. He does.

All right, since we haven't heard this, let's, this would be funny if, like, a hit boy, or Metro, one of the dope producers, like, sample one of these and make like a real track. You see a remix happening. Yeah, for sure. Or what if this is the greatest rap album of all time? And he's been trolling us for a decade by playing the flute and soho. So we do believe that this is a flute album and it's nothing but bars.

You're so hopeful. No, I've, I spoke to people that heard it. No, he was trying to trick Alchemist too. Oh, where? He's trying to trick the whole world. He's trying to trick Tyler, Frank. Yeah, enough for the trick. That's the other album.

Got him. Three stacks. Enough for the tricks, man. I get it. You know, we're not on your frequency. I get it. But can we just get some. I just want some bars, that's all.

I predict that we're going to get the music snob's most annoying week of the year. You know Pitchfork and everyone that thinks they're at a higher frequency of music. Like, this is going to be the greatest thing ever. We don't understand. They're going to throw out this. We don't understand. We're not there yet. We're going to get that all week.

You haven't heard wind like this. I haven't. It's very remnants of the Beatles' first album. But, I mean, we have to listen to it, right? Of course. I think we almost have to listen to it. In London, we'll get it early, too. We just have to hear what it is.

We should go to So House in London and ask for the auxiliary and just crank the flute album. He might be there. Shit, that would be great. It would shock me. He might be there. Well, no, I'll be there, so he won't. You're there.

He'll be in Australia. He'll be another Soul House in London. Yeah. Staying on music in the state of hip-hop, Yadi's been getting some flack. He had some comments about hip-hop's been ruined. and he took those words of Twitter and people kind of turned it on him and said this is low-key, your fall, man.

Can we get the full quote, please? Yeah, sure. So he says hip-hop is in a terrible place. The state of hip-hop right now is in a lot of imitation. It's a lot of quick and low-quality music being put out. That's a fact. He continued. It's a lot less risk-taking.

It's a lot less originality. People are too safe now. Everyone is so safe. I'd rather take a risk than take the L. All right. Is he wrong? No. No. He's right. I can focus on the message here, not the messenger.

And I don't think Yadi is the reason for hip hop to be in a bad place, to be quite honest. But his... How you put that on Yaddi? That is crazy. I don't think it's solely Yaddi's fault. I think his peers and his generation, you could put some blame on. And I could see the quote unquote hip-unquote hip-hip-hop purist being mad that this is coming from Yadi. But he's not lying.

I'd rather it come from him than come. from some from ebro because the kids are going to be like all right old man just be quiet i'm happy it's coming from yadi and i like the fact that yadi put out he said he said what he said but then he also put out an album that he put out with let's start here that sounded the way it did and we spoke about it we heard the album we liked it um it wasn't the prototypical yadi sound that we thought we were going to get so you know for him to say that and then he's also showing like look i did it i put out of album, psychedelic rock. It was different sounds.

I was just experimenting. I wanted to try something different step outside of my box. So I respect him for that because he's not just talking it. He's actually doing it as well. So I respect what he's saying. And he's right. It's a lot of people imitating what's already out there. We're sampling a sample that was already sample before the sample.

You know, everything is just the same non-artists that do features with each other. So it's essentially the same song over and over. So I understand what Yadhi is saying. It's very stale, but again, it's because the way the business is set up now with the industry streaming and people click when they see a name attached to a certain song just because of the name. So it's a lot of things going on that's causing to, it's causing an effect on the music. The music is suffering because the business is set up the way it is now. And with the business being set up the way it is, these current artists for the most part couldn't take a risk if they wanted to. they don't have the ability or talent or vision to take a risk or do something different.

So even with the business, I start to put it on the creative side as well. They don't have the ability to take a risk. They may want to, but they wouldn't even know where to begin. They just have to follow exactly what has been working and what they know will work. I mean, is now, does the person attached to the record have a name that goes viral? You know, you want to put these people together. It's no synergy. it's no chemistry between these people.

It's just the fact that both of these artists are the most downloaded or the most click names on the internet at the moment. So they figure, okay, let's put them on a record because it's going to stream well because people are already clicking on their names. But it's like, yeah, you could hear in the music, you can feel it. It's no chemistry. The music is terrible. And Yati added that he believes he was snub by the Grammy board. What do you guys? Do you think he should have been nominated?

And if so, what category was this? He had a really good album. What category do you think this would even go? for her. That's a good question. It would have to be somewhere in the alternative, progressive. Yeah. I would say progressive.

I don't know if it was quite album of the year worthy, but I feel Yadi, there was definitely categories that he could have been nominated in with that body of work. The album was good. The album, it was different. It was some really good songs on there. So, I mean, again, I applaud Yaddy for saying what he's saying, but he you know it's also valid because he

did what he did and putting out the project that he did so got to respect that what do you think about this risk right here my god gang gang oh wow you who is that Pinky doll

Pinky doll Pinky doll Pinky doll Pino makes music yeah now she does it is that the girl I was doing the NPC um ice cream so good yum

yeah she was also a sex worker she's a jack of all trade she wears a lot of hats well she does only fit now she's trying to make music. Trying. She's smashed. That's a denial right there.

Look at the state of hip-hop. I heard at all AMC theaters, they're going to play that before the movie starts. Marley used to do the Shish thing. It should be just her doing it. Oh, it's called Yes, Popcorn. Yeah. Oh, so it's just NPC with a beat behind it. I can see this song going somewhere marketing-wise.

No way. I can't do. Marketing-wise. In the trash, in the fucking delete. No, it's awful. Delete. I'm going to hate popcorn after this. But I think there's a reason why she's doing this.

And I can see it being used in a commercial or something. I can see her making money from it. Ever since that Glorilla song, I can only hear music as just like them, just shitting out algorithms. Like, why just after saying yes popcorn, yes popcorn,

all right, we have a space there. Gang gang. Yeah. What does that have to do with anything? Gang is one of her phrases that she says. Oh, it's one of hers? Yes.

It's one of hers. She invented. It's one of hers. During her MPC, during her MPC thing, she'll go gang. That's one of the, like, yes, popcorn, like I seem so good. Gang, gang, gang, gang. That's one of the things. Jamaris was doing it on Sunday, too.

I just want to say that China got it right. China does. China's right. Oh, not China. They got it right. This is mental illness. Well, you can't chalk everything up to being mental illness. Shit.

Watch. Are you fucking kidding me? If there is a. mental illness, I think this is leading to it. What's that hypnosis? That NPC shit is, this is hypnosis for our children. That MPC repeat and word, that's mental illness. You can't tell me that that's not mental illness. How is this any different than Baby Shark? Don't. See, I think that's dangerous too. Baby Shark is that that is one of the greatest songs ever recorded in human history. Someone was blaming Rory on

Reddit for, I guess, suggesting Baby Shark, and I guess their child got super addicted to that. Yeah. Yeah, no, it's heroin for children. I think the post is like, I no longer like Rory. Yeah. Oh, the bubbles song. Oh, the bubbles in the tub. There you go. Listen, my mom just bought Amara

a Miss Rachel doll. I'm like, she doesn't get enough of this shit on the doll. They're making dolls? They're making dolls? Yes, it's a God complex. She is the Lord and Savior.

I'm just her father. I'm just a mere mortal. And then there's Miss Rachel. And then there's Baby Shark. I'm somewhere down here. I'm down here next to the Amazon delivery guy. Yeah.

Ma, I do want to go back to that MPC point of you thinking that that's mental illness. You think that she's mentally ill or the people who are paying her to do that are mentally ill? Both. You think she's mentally ill for getting a bag. I think she found a lick. I think the people that are paying her and are like fully engulfed in that entire world are mentally ill, yes. But it's kind of. And I think it can lead you to mental illness if you have a young sponge mind and you're literally just looking at this girl spitting out.

internet words. They have a... That will drive you to mental illness, for sure. They have a... That's like torture. That's Guantanamo Bay shit that's now just in our phones. But I just think people get

different pleasure out of different things. Like, I'm obsessed with watching people stock their fridge on TikTok. Have you seen stupid? Zero dark 30? Yeah. The movie. This doll is committing war crimes.

This is what they used to do to torture people. So you're obsessed for watching people stocked their fridge, right? On TikTok, yeah. Now let me show you what mental health comes in. Is your fridge stocked? Yeah. not as clean as you ask. Not like Marie Canoe.

Not the way that there's are. Like they organize it. Like everything is just, it's insane. Like it's so dope. Like they'll restock their strawberries. They'll wash it off. All of those things.

It's very interesting to watch. No, it doesn't make any sense. Instead of they're watching hours of those videos will make you think like, oh, this person must be crazy. But I don't know.

I think you have to be addicted to something to understand. Could just go buy some strawberries. I mean, who am I to talk? Because I, you know, at one point I was addicted to law and order SVU. That's just crows.

upon hours. That she was raped and pissed on in the parking lot. I'm like, oh, can't wait for the next episode. I wonder what Livy's going to do. Yeah. That shit was ill. So are we going to blame the abuser, like the, or the creator? Because we got people like Damaris who I would be considered creator.

Is this a chicken and egg theory that you're getting at? Kind of. Look at Damaris. So good. Oh, Rose. Thank you. Edin is. And then here I am being a user sending her.

Hot Chili's. Eddine sent me. Chili peppers, hot. How do we send her mozzarella stick? Chili peppers hot. So Eddn, I went, turn that off. Eddn, I don't feel like you lost some brain cells? So that wasn't, I wasn't why I went live.

I went live because I was doing a pickle challenge with Alex. And in the pickle challenge when I was on there, Eddn went on there and started sending me stuff to get me to act like an MPC character. So I started doing it just for fun. Best $5 I ever spent. I want to go back for a thing. Maul, you're in power. Well, it's not what it looks like.

I was doing a pickle challenge. Come on. I wasn't doing that crazy stuff. No, well, it's a really, really big pickle that you like gut out and you stuff it with like candy and hot chips and all types of shit that like teenagers eat. So I made Alex, I got dared to do it and me and Alex did it for TikTok. That's under 50 ice cream coms. Play the audio? He was just.

So this is. What was the last time we all read a book? She read Jane's book? I just read up. I read books daily. I meant a real book. I read real books daily.

You just don't. Yeah, this is, I'm just, you're empowering that, Mall. How? I don't know if she got your hoodie on. Oh, she does. It was an advertisement.

We are affiliated to all of that. That's small, yeah, small. Gang, gang. Please don't ever say that again. That's the new drop. Listen, man, I get it. All this, you know, social. media and you know it's just certain shit that I'm just like I feel like we can be doing so much

better without time than to be sitting there yelling at it out screen saying oh yeah popcorn yes gang gang clip it gang yeah that's that's her that's her job like this yeah she gets paid a lot of money to do that the same way that you get paid a lot of money to sit here and talk about shit. So like, I'm sure that there's other, no, but being serious, I'm sure that there are people who sit and look at podcasts and be like, there's more productive things we can be

doing with our time than sit and talking about Will Smith getting his ass rammed. I say the same thing. Yeah, I mean, not wrong. Not wrong there, yeah. Yeah, this isn't coming from like a higher moral standard. I think we're all nuts. It's just, I don't know if this is helping. That's just like a different level of

mental illness. What we do for a living is mental illness. Do you guys remember back of the day, chat roulette or Omegal. Yeah. So I just, I think I believe it was last week. Omega officially shut down after 14 years. Damn. But I feel like this era, Omega and Chatrelat,

was like the early onset days of NPC like streaming. Not NPC per se, but just live streaming. 2009 was 14 years ago. Yeah. Yeah. Math. So for those who don't remember, Chat Relette and Omega were sites where you click on, it would just be your camera would be live

and it would just randomize people and you can just stream live stream with people across the world and it usually just came down to a lot of men beating off and a lot of like you know kids or whatever but it was an era

I think all that was the earliest version of what we're currently seeing on TikTok and a chaturrilette still does still exist okay yeah yeah I mean it's really Napster's fall at the end of the day why do you say that

it's file sharing just started all of this being able to share files with strangers Ruin the Napshire, Lime Wire, Frostwire. Yeah. Soldier Boy made it popular. Well, I mean, he didn't invent the internet with Al Gore, but.

Soldier Boy, million dollars for a verse now. Allegedly. Is that what I read? Yeah, he did say that. You read that? Where'd you read that? In between my popcorn, popcorn, gang gang, I did read that headline.

Who's paying Soldier Boy a million dollars for a verse? What's the ROI on that? I don't know. It has to be talking about. terrible. Listen, six, nine paid Kodak Black

a million dollars got no ROI on that. I thought it was $2 million. For Kodak? I think it was a million. Kodak looked like he was right in that whole

situation. Yeah, one million. The song did absolutely nothing. That's why I don't think he was right. Just to take the mill

and then dis some on the song? Oh, you can't, man. Moro's not for sale, man. I mean, I don't know, a million dollars. Sounds kind of nice. Looks like,

update on 6-9. Looks like he was recently detained in the DR for assaulting music producers. Is he still locked up? I thought that was a skit. No, that was real. Okay. That wasn't a Drewski bit.

I thought it was. No. So what do you do? He beat up a producer of his. Producer, yeah, he ran up in a studio, I think, a girl that I think he was dating a producer or somebody, I don't know. He ran up in there.

They beat some, him and his crew beat up some producers and thought that they was going to get on a flight and leave DR and police was like, no, no, no, no, you're wanted for assault. Usually that goes the other way. You assault someone in America and go to DR. Yeah. Benzino alert. He's back at it.

Thought you could silence the source God and you cannot more. I'm not trying. I know you were trying, but Benzino will not be silenced. Sounds to violence. Listen, man, I understand Benzino in this situation. Give us some context. So, Benzino called a. out Buster Rhymes for Corey, his daughter, Corle-Way being half-naked in their music video.

He said that Benz, he felt like Buster should have reached out to him. And I guess spoke to him about shooting the video or whatever. I understand Benzino's stance. He's just being a dad. He's being a father. He obviously, he knows the dangers in the industry and the things that go on, the things that happens. And I just think he's trying to protect his daughter as best as he can from that. Coy is obviously, you know, aesthetically, she's very, you know, comfortable with a body.

She dresses very, you know, sexy. She wears, you know, things that just show her figure. And it's probably hard for a dad to see his daughter on the Internet like that in videos dressed like that, especially when she's around guys that Benzino is probably the same age. age as and they know each other. And he just knows how this industry is. He knows grown men are looking at his daughter. But she's been half naked for quite some time.

It's been years. Like every video that she's done for the most part, Instagram, socials, live shows. Yeah, but I think this is just the disc video with Buster. Is now where we're drawing the line? Not draw the line, but I think he just feels like Buster should have, you know, just reached out to him. Like, yo, you know me and Corey shooting the video for the record.

Whatever. You know, I just feel like he, you know, he's in a tough, I understand. He's in a tough spot, man. His daughter is, is a grown woman now. She's sexy. She's beautiful. You know, men are around her. Men want her.

It's just a tough spot for a dad to be in. And especially when you talk about an industry that he came up in. And he knows the nasty shit that goes on and how, you know, grown men will, you know, hover over a young girl. I mean, I could see if they were like. like really dancing with each other in the video or even holding each other like Jaru and J-Lo. They're playing fucking hopscotch together and shit.

Like patty cake, whatever the fuck. Yeah, but don't do that, Roarer, because if Amar grows up to be an amazing artist and she's beautiful and she's wearing, you know, very revealing things and she does a song with, I don't know, reason. Okay. Hopefully he's still in the industry. Hopefully.

That's, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and be it. All right, Rory. See, like, you can't. But to Mal's point is if it's someone that's currently your daughter, your peer, your peer. Yeah, I think that Benzino are here.

The problem is here that Benzino did not know that his daughter had a video shoot with Buster Mimes. Why is it Bustin's responsibility to call Benzino let him know about his daughter? Let me take that card out your hands. Reason is not going to call me about anything Amara related because I'm going to know already.

Okay, but, okay, let's take that card out of your hand. Let's say that you and Amara for whatever reason she becomes a young woman and Y'all kind of just are like on the house. I'm not going to go on love and hip hop or partner with Dave Mays. There's nothing that's going to strain our relationship. Well, you're not. You can't do that. You can't do that, bro.

You got to understand as a father. You got to understand what Bezino's coming from. No matter what, Coy is a grown woman. 26-year-old woman. Grown woman, but that's still in forever going to be his little girl, his daughter. But do we even know Buster rhymes and Ben Zino speak? No, I'm not saying, I'm not saying we know that. I'm not saying

I'm not saying that Buster should have did anything He should have called I'm just saying I understand Benzino's standpoint in it It's just like yo This is my daughter It's my baby Yes she's a grown woman

Yes she's attractive She's beautiful Yes men are gonna want her But he knows also like Yo the industry is nasty And it's like These men that are my age Are around my daughter

Now have access to my daughter Like some of them I may have a relationship with I feel like they should hit me and be like, yo, listen, you know, me and your daughter, but she's all good, she's safe. Like, I'm making sure, you know, she's straight, like nobody. You know what I'm saying?

There's nothing but respect on the set. Like, just something like that to where it's like, you know, I don't want to just see a dude that's my peer pop up with the video and then my daughter's running around in the video. Okay, we more scared of her peers, not my peers. Can we, well, first of all, can we confirm that this is Koi song and not? It's not. It's Buster Rhyams featuring Koi. And we know Buster Rhymes is very much involved in his videos.

But at no point, do I think Buster Rhymes had any sense. say in what Coil-Leray was wearing. No, I'm not, no, no, no, I'm not saying that. I'm not saying, I understand what Benzino is alluded to. Like, yo, like, damn, bro, like, you can't just hit me and just, you know, let me know, like, yo, listen, I'm, you know, I'm shooting with your daughter today, but I just want you to know, listen, bro, everything is professional, you know, she's taking care of her, like everything.

That would still be weird. If reason texts me 20 years from now on a video shoot with Amara and was like, yo, just let you know, I'm shooting with Amara, they're going to keep it professional. I'd call him like, what the fuck you talk about you, you creep? Yeah, what the fuck you mean by that.

No, but I'm just saying because you know how, you know how video sets. Sorry reason for putting this on your jacket. You know how videos, you know how video shoes can get. It's not just the artists around. It's people around it.

It's 40th music video. Yeah, but what I'm saying is, it's people around the set. There's other people on the set. Like, and if you have, if you have a peer security,

her team, like bust is not who that should come from or who I'm looking to to protect or be around. It's about the team that's around Koi at all times. that's always around her when she's half naked, with her at the club,

with her at photo shoots, with her at video shoots, with her at label meetings. Those people are the people I want to speak to because they know what's going on. Buster's showing up to do a shoot? No. So you're saying as a father,

you don't see what Benzino's coming from? Not in regards to Buster Rhymes owing him a call about keeping it professional because I think that's weird. I mean, yeah. And it goes half and a half because of the fact that he's mentioning that Koi was half naked. Now, if they were in the video,

like touching on each other, shit, it's a little different. Yeah, but Buster wouldn't do that. Yeah, he called her like niece or, yeah, something like that in one of the songs, one of the lyrics. It was like something like wholesome and like, you know, guardian like, but I don't know. I think it's a weird conversation to put that on Buster Rhymes,

to be quite honest. If it was her first video ever. Yeah. Sure. That's a little different, but she's been in this business for a couple years now. and has been more naked than she was in this video around plenty of people. And I think her peers are probably way creepier than people that Benzino is cool with.

I'm saying to his daughter. We don't know. I'm sure there's creeps. So you don't see what Benzino's coming from. In regards to Buster Rhymes having to call him about that, no. Okay. In terms of his daughter, I'm sure he under, like a daughter, father.

In regards that, if he could hit him like, you know, I'm doing a shoot with Sequoie. Cool. But like in regards to hey, your daughter's naked on set, it's a weird fucking text or call to get it. Yeah. Got the tities out. Super weird.

Especially when her whole career has been that. As a father, I'd be like, this is an odd call and text message. Okay. But clearly that's what he wanted. I understand Benzino. I understand it.

I get it. I mean, I'm not saying it's Buster's fault. I'm not putting anything on Buster, but I understand the stance that Benzino's taken. And, you know, he's been outspoken about the interview with Andrew Martinez and Coy, you know, saying that they're spending a false narrative that, you know, he wasn't a good dad or, you know, whatever people are saying about his relationship with his daughter. I just think this is all connected to that. Like, you know, why does it feel like this is being pushed about me? Like, I don't have a relationship with my daughter.

I didn't take, I didn't raise my daughter. I didn't give her the best life that I could. Like, I understand, you know, Benzino is just feeling like, yo, I'm. I'm receiving a bad rep here with my daughter who I love and care about. Like, this is fucking weird. And I know what this industry does. It tries to pull families apart. It tries to pull daughters away from their fathers.

But I'm not going to let to happen. Like, it's not like. No, for sure. I've already had a hand in it for sure. Yeah, like you mad at everybody else because of what your daughter has repeatedly said about you in your relationship. And Zeno has to take some accountability because they went publicly back and forth for over a year. Right. And even if it must hurt to hear your daughter say wild shit about you, especially if it isn't true, but you're also the adult and the parent, which means you should handle that privately, not do a year back and forth on Instagram with your daughter.

Which kind of proves her point. Yeah, like it made you look, it almost, it gave validation to what she was saying. If you were such a great dad, like, if I just decided one day, like, I'm, you know, something my dad did traumatize me and I'm going to start talking about it online, my father, because he's a good father, would never start attacking. me online. He would call me and say, yo, why are you out here lying? Like, what the fuck is going on? You going back and forth for her on Instagram, because that's probably the only way you could contact her because you're not in her life. Yeah.

But, I mean, realistically, I think YG should call me, like, if he just sees, if he sees my girl busting it open on the poll and posted on IG, I feel like YG should shoot me a text before he posted. Do you think he should post it first? If your girl's in a YG video, she busts it open. That's not your girl. And then you, you, you leave a comment saying, yo, like, delete this. That's my baby mama. That's not your baby mama, bro.

Ill picture, by the way. Yeah, the picture. That's fine. Saying that's not your baby mama's collar. It's not your baby mama. YG was focused. She's fine, too. It not being your girl is one thing, but that's also not the mother of your child anymore.

Yeah, like, I don't care that you had a baby with her. That is no longer your baby mother. That's a girl you know that you have something in common. Yeah. Yeah, I just did something together. I didn't feel like this was fake. For those that don't know, YG posted a harmless, photo his IG of him next to a stripper holding her leg up with my

just doing what strippers do and her alleged baby father commented and said please delete this this is my baby mother then posted a video which I believe was in a park which was weird like go find your kid take this down now and was like yo YG from a real one to another real one like I just need you to take that down which I think is fake. It has to be fake. There's no way a guy really do this. From one real one to another, why did you take that down? That's not a real move.

Okay, but say it is real. Israel? Say it is real. Got it. Bomb them. So say this isn't fake. Okay. Would you out of respect for someone

clearly YG doesn't have a relationship with this guy? No. Would you take no? No. No. No. Why would I take that down? Like, I don't know. That's a fire picture. I don't know. Or her. Like, the picture's just dope.

If she said take it down, cool, that's different. True. But if some guy, no, it's up there. I mean, posting a stripper in general is a little odd, but he's a rapper, so I guess they get passes on common stuff. Yeah. And it looked like that was at, was that a strip club? It looks more like a private. It looks like a video.

Well, that, that pole is not attached to a ceiling. It's probably a video shoot. That's a private party. That's pretty ill. And if it's a video shoot, I'm definitely not taking it. No. So many hands on that pole. It's the way he looking at her. It's the way he looking like

I'm looking too. Don't worry. He looks amazing. He might have been just minding his business. He could be looking past her. Yeah, he might not even be looking at it. It's just the way that angle of that picture is.

He might not even be looking at the crafty table for snacks. Oh, the options just walked in, one or the other. Yeah. The options just talked in. I heard you heard you know me. You heard you know me? You heard you all me to kill it. She is a killer.

She is the snack. She is the snack. You know me giving it up. But no, I'm not taking anything down because some guy. No, that's staying up, man. And it's getting mad. Like, it's doing numbers right now, Julian.

Where they at with the numbers right now? Yeah, what's the analytics on this? Matter of fact, we're going to re-edit this video, so it's just me and her. Yeah. That'd be my first thing. Oh, that'd be smart, yeah. But this, I don't know.

This felt like a slow news day. When this popped up on my... If that was your baby mama, would you want to down? Slow news day, huh? If that was your baby mama, would you want it down? If that was my baby mother,

I got bigger problems to worry about. Yeah. That's my baby's mother right there. And she's a stripper and nothing against strippers, but... Is this not good promo for her? Great promo. For her, yeah. Is she tag on this?

Absolutely. No, of course not. Damn it. Tag strippers. I'm sure she's been on Twitter. Ramiling her only fans like that. And letting everybody, and letting everybody know that that's not her baby father.

I do not know him. Even if... I don't even have kids. I'm not saying that's not my baby father. That's funny. Do we have voicemails? You got mail. Yo, what's up, y'all?

My name is Kyle from Chicago. a big fan of the pot. Just one just first off, let y'all know that y'all folks at sale for not coming back to Chicago this year. You're the school, though. Y'all do your thing. My question or scenario for y'all is that me and my

shorty to be together for about five years now. So obviously, you know, it's time that, like, shit getting real, shit getting serious type shit. So with that being said, like, I'm thinking about, you know, pop up to the question soon. We've been ready real close to finishing our education. I'm close to finish

my doctorate. She's close to finish our masters and everything. However, my shorty has always told me, or when we first started dating, she always expects to me that, like, how she always wants to go to Paris and everything like that, her goal birthday, which is well, she'll turn 29.

So ever since she told me about that, when we first started dating, my dream or my goal was to do the proposal on the 29th, not the 29th, but in Paris, when she turns 29th, however, that's three years from now. So I'm already knowing that she's going to be at some point of time.

She's going to be like, nigga, like, what the fuck you home? Like, you know, it's that time. So I guess, long story short, before the voicemail, to cut me off, should I continue to keep up with my plan to wait to Paris at 29, which is three years from now, which at that point we were together for eight years? Or should I go ahead and prepare to part the question soon? Let me all your thoughts. Rory?

Yeah, I don't know if I'm the most qualified. This is your bag right here. It's not. Three years a long time. Eight years together, that would be. Three years is a long time. Yeah, I would find another way to... Get a dog, buy some time.

If he's ready... Does a dog do that? Yeah. Does a dog do that? His dog was after. So, nice try. Sorry. Joke didn't work.

I would find another way to pop the question. and maybe do like the wedding in Paris. Go to Paris, Texas. The honeymoon in Paris. There you go. Something in that regard. Paris, Texas. Because three years, after five years, another three.

Get it. I understand you guys are getting your masters and all this other shit. So time is, doesn't really matter, I guess, when you're in school and doing all that shit. Because everything's at the end once you get your degree. You can buy time with school, I feel like. He said in three years should be 29. 29. 29?

29. Damn, they're young. Yeah. So I'm thinking like, for five years is not too bad. It's not bad. But they've been together for five years. So by the time he pops the crushing, it will be eight years. They're together.

But why not just tell her? Like, why does this have to be a secret? Because that's the surprise element of the- I mean, if they're going to Paris, what are you thinking, come on? No, you don't know. Some people go to Paris and they don't propose. They've never, like, I think she would know what's going on when they... Man, you better lock it down.

I was like, why would you hide this from her and give her that anxiety? Do you think she'll, like, leave if he doesn't long enough? Three years is a long time. Man, shit can happen. A long time. You're talking about. Take it to the Sears Tower. Just getting over with.

Sears Tower? To propose. No, I know, but. Don't push her off. It's not called. It's not. No. What was it called?

Well, when I was there, it was called Willis. The Willis, but it might be renamed again. Target Tower. Ma'all, what do you think? Take your cheesecake? I don't think three years is that long. What are called? If you've already been waiting five?

You don't think... But they've been... No, no. And ain't just three years alone. They've been together for five. That's been waiting five for the engagement. Three years is... That goes by fast.

Especially you're in school. They're about to be out of school. Yeah, but that goes by fast. Like, I don't think it's... I don't think it's that... If they live together... Do they live together? I mean, that's another question.

Do they live together? Do they have a pet together? Like, there's just so many out. A dog. What? I just... We have no advice on this one. You're kind of... on your own here, man.

Yeah. I'm just telling you as a woman that if we've been together for five years and you haven't proposed waiting after that sixth year and be like, huh, that seven year. Wait, so if you were to go off for five years, he has to propose? No, I don't know. If they were in their 30s, I would get it. But you're in your 20s. They're young.

But if, I don't know. Like 26. She's 26 right now, technically. She's young. That's young. And they're in Chicago, too. So I'm sure it's not like all their friends. They're going to get killed.

ears are. Oh my God. What are you said? They're going to get killed soon. You got to go to Paris. They got to get out. I'm sure in their mid-20s. Rather get some bedbugs and get shot.

All their friends are not like getting married and having kids at this point. Exactly. So I'm sure there's not that pressure. You know what? I changed my answer. Wait. Wait for the three. But going to Paris.

Wouldn't you sign? But why hide it? Like I'm saying, have the conversation. But like, hey, like, I love you. I want to spend the rest of my life with you. I have a plan of how I want to go about. Like, why keep it a fucking secret and keep her. thinking what's wrong with me.

Is it me after five years? What's going on? You don't have to be like, hey, on this date, we're going to go to Paris. You don't have to do that. But let her know, like, yo, you're my person. This is where I'm at. That's a good point.

I like that. You don't need to hide this shit. And then her wanting to get engaged is like in your 20s? 29 at that point, if they did make it. I mean, that would be eight years right there. You think that's crazy? What? You think that there's something wrong with?

You don't think five years is a long time to be in a relationship? That when you met at 21. I don't want to say a long, okay. And we in school? That doesn't matter. They're still in a relationship. No, if they were dating each other and they were kind of like he didn't know if he was ready to be in a serious relationship, they're dating and more than likely they're probably living together. So how old they are doesn't really matter because if they are having the conversations while they're laying next to each other every night, oh, I know that this is my person or like, you know, we're going along those lines.

Our families know each other, yada, yada. no matter how young we are, we know that we want to spend the rest of our life together. Do you think that she's expecting you? You think you want to spend the rest of your life together? And, you know, engaging rings cost money, weddings cost money. They do. They do. School costs money.

And if you're in, all right, so let's say we meet our freshman year of college and the entire four years. We're together. That puts us at four years in dating. But their first year out of college is the toughest try to find a job, get established. Now we're at five years, but we've been together for five years. So you're going to say a wedding is the next plan? He just said that they're working on their doctorate.

Okay. I'm, no, I'm putting a separate scenario because you say five years means they should get married, but school is not a factor in that. When I'm saying it 100% is definitely is. No, but I'm not talking about... You have to pay student loans. You're trying to get a job out of school. I'm not talking about the marriage.

I'm not talking about the marriage. I'm talking about the engagement and how a woman will feel about a long commitment without an engagement, especially if we discussed marriage and you know that I want marriage. And I, like, we both know this already. Then I have to pay you back on Julian's point, which is him giving her the assurance Which I agree It will happen

Right And it will happen in a special time But it shouldn't really be It shouldn't be bad I think having no type of conversation In your 20s is fucking crazy I mean And I'm not even pulling

It's because you're 41 and you're not seen And like I get what you mean But it's just common though It is common that people Not saying it's not common But it's still like Like bro like you You're in your 20s in school

And we also don't know how old he is because it's not like he's in school, like, oh, he's a fucking sophomore in, like, his first four years. He's finishing his doctorate. The nigga probably been in school for the past eight years. And, hey, I mean. Like, at some point, you still have to live your life. Exactly. Yeah, he's setting up his future.

Well, seems like she just started her master's part because she has three years left. Yeah. It's either a three-year program or four-year program. And it's obvious that he's older than her, right? So, yeah, she may be 26, but I don't, he's not giving me 26 by what he's doing in school and how he's talking, he's giving me that he's 28, 29-ish. He's old. So.

Yeah, he's getting up there. Damn, 28. No, I'm not saying. He's just getting his doctor now. What a fucking bum. Right. Does it matter how old he is in this case? Yeah, I don't really see relatives there.

Because he clearly doesn't care about age is about for her. Yeah, I think he's so. He's always saying that they're too young to get married. Oh, I'm sorry. But he's so transfixed on this Paris thing that I think he's letting that. I mean, that's cool, though. Block. What, what's,

To Maris's point would just be natural progression of this relationship. Yeah. Like if he could get to Paris right now, he's like, I want to take her to Paris on her 29th birthday. He's like trying to plan the perfect proposal. Yeah. When he, it's not that he wants to wait to get engaged. He wants to get engaged. On the 29th for her 29th.

Like there's so much shit that he wants it to like, you know, that fucking math science brain. He wants to be a perfect moment. Is there something wrong for him putting that effort like that? No, but it's now, but now you're battling this fucking inner narrative and, dialogue and you got to just tell her. You're like, hey, I want to do this with you, but, you know. He should talk to her. And if she's like, you don't have to wait, then fucking go to the Sears Tower, like Rory said,

kick her off. Yeah. Let's get it over with. Yeah. I just, I don't know. I believe in waiting for, you know, when people are talking about old, like, waiting for marriage and the wedding, of course, because those things can be very expensive. Engagement rings can be expensive too.

But you can make the commitment with the person, even if you do it without the ring. Hey, I plan on spending the rest of my life with you. That sounds good on paper. Women don't want that. engagement with no ring no I'm not I'm not saying that's I'm talking about what you really said that's not that's not that happened with our show in Toronto

proposed that is but that was different yeah that was worse yeah yeah that was they went home with a t-shirt yeah we gotta force him to get engaged tore engagement shirt okay he definitely didn't plan on it a shot of hornito is in a t-shirt and like the fact that he just recognized like yo I don't have money for a ring right now that's the only

that was ill I like how like cool he was about he wasn't even like on some what was me shit And he was like, yeah, this is where I'm at my life. But I think, see, that's sexy to me. If my partner comes to me and they're like, yo, you know I'm going to spend the rest of my life with you, but I know you want this $10,000 Tiffany's ring and I don't have it right now to get that for you.

Is that sexy? I feel like you're capping. Yeah, you're capping. That niggas out of here. You're capping so hard right now. Demand's that nigga's out of here. We're not doing that. You think that's sex?

Not doing that. We are not doing that. There's nothing sexy about that. Stop lying. You not, you just said that sexy. As much shit as you talk about niggas over here, not putting out, not paying for shit, now all of a sudden it's sexy. You don't think you can't afford a ring.

So that's completely different. If me and you are building together, we're in school together, like we have a life together. We've been together for five years. And I know that you're on your way to being able to afford this ring and I love you. Like we've been together committed to each other. No, of course, I think that that's beautiful. I fall for it, fellas. Whatever.

Oh, so you're saying it's the looming, it's a looming financial bag that will eventually. They've been together for five years. They love each other. Fuck. You're acting real dense. They're acting like a lot of... They love each other. They love each other.

Like, come on now. Like, well, if we go back to Chicago, maybe he proposes at the show. No, that's not... That's their Paris. Just make sure it's on the 29th. Yeah. Seems to be important here. In three years we'll be in Chicago.

If you want to bury that woman, lock it down, bro. That's all I'm saying. Assure her that you're going to lock it down. Assure her that you're going to lock it down. That's all I'm saying. I mean, him calling in, I guess she has some sort of doubt, right? Or she's, like, nudging at him about it. Probably.

He knows that if they're, talking about it now and it's like you know well you guys don't know but you know when you get to that certain level in the relationship where it's kind of like expected like all right like are we going to commit to this for sure if they're at that point now and he's someone oh I want to wait three more years because I want this perfect date he knows that she might start looking at him like he's fucking insane

which is why he called in. Do you think proposing in front of the Eiffel Tower is as corny as proposing at a basketball game? What's wrong with a basketball game? That's corny. That's corny. KISS cam and shit, the mascot Oh, I was thinking of like when that Unless you guys really liked the next.

Remember that viral clip of like the dancer? She was a dancer from one of the team. That's different. That's what I thought you were referring to. Oh, all right. Kiss cam. No, that's like a real thought out. Got you.

Okay. Yeah, no, kiss cam. Not Paris. Yeah. I think Paris, Texas is a viable option. You could do Vegas. They have the Eiffel Tower there. But no, if you go France,

city of lovers, if you're like live in Paris, I think it's crazy to propose in front of the Eiffel Tower. Okay. But yeah, if you travel to France, that's cool. I think it's corny. Yeah. Well, there's some girl, I think it's corny. A lot of girls love Paris.

No, I get that, but I'm saying, I think it's corny. But a lot of girls love Paris because a lot of girls love Paris. Exactly. Say at this point, they don't know why they love Paris. You've been together for five, eight years, whatever. Go propose at a spot that has significance in, like, intrinsic value, shared value in your lives that you share together. Don't go to take a cop a flight to another country.

Neither of you speak the language. You're going just to take this photo and get on a. I think you're thinking too hard because then for the rest of your life because say you do it like this way like my brother just got engaged. They went to a restaurant they had one of their first dates at in D.C.

They did a whole thing there. It was adorable. But they live in that city. They can relive that memory. Like it's a part of their life every, you know, when they go out. But Paris seems to be like this is like they go there once

and when are they going back? But how do you know? They're fucking doctors. They go to Paris all the time. Who knows? The fucking doctor. What? But they're getting their masters

and doctors and shit isn't they got money. They're pediatrician. Yeah, they got money. Also, that's exactly what if that's exactly what she wanted. That's what I'm saying. No, it is what she wanted. So what's the problem. That's what I'm saying.

It is what she wants. Yeah, so why are you killing them for doing something she wants? No, it's very nice. I'm saying that, I'm saying what she's saying is corny. Should he take her to the restaurant your brother went to in D.C.? Like, I don't know. No, just take her where Edens friend was alive.

If she loves Paris, what's wrong with that? No, that's okay. There's so much shit. I'm certain they have very fond memories of places or things in Chicago that they could do. That would probably mean more. But she wants Paris, though. That's her journey. The honeymoon on Paris.

That's her dream proposal. I don't know what you're not hearing. But the honey, honey, don't honeymoon me in Paris. That's awful. What? What's from?

See, I don't understand that. Okay. No, don't honeymoon me in Paris. She wants Paris is the point. Syracuse. Where would you want to be honey?

Honeymoon in his Syracuse is fucking crazy. I mean? At the barriot? Go oranges. They just love the orange. Syracuse game. Yeah. That's where they met.

Well, if we went to, if we went to school together, then I understand that. Okay. So, yes. So he should,

propose now or later? Later, man. Julia? Later, but tell her. Later, but tell her. Reassure her every day that you're going to marry. We're not doing. Eat her ass. I'm not telling you every day. Eat her ass. I didn't say. That's not what I said. That's not what I said. Reassure her. Every day that you're going to marry her. Reassure her. I didn't say that you can tell her. God damn. When I say reassure, I did not mean that it has to be, oh, I'm going to marry you. I'm going to marry you every day. So what is? Just make her feel so love. Make her feel like you're so in love with her. you are definitely going to marry her.

Like there's never going to be anybody else. Like you don't have any doubt about her. That's what I'm saying. When I say reassure, you can do that through actions. You can do that through words. It doesn't mean say I'm going to marry you every single day. That's not what I meant. Gotcha.

Just make sure that there's no doubt in her mind like Julian said. So now or later. Later. Later, if you do it right. Later. Later. It took a while for us to get that conclusion, but I'm glad we did. I'm happy for you, though.

Congratulations. You guys are very smart. You guys are going to do great life. I also feel like you guys called the wrong people for advice. I feel like everyone for every question calls wrong. I feel like they listen to NPR, but they don't have a calling feature, so they just call those. We're the second. Yeah, it's, yeah.

Second line of defense. Can't get NPR, so let's just go over here. And how do you know you want to spend the rest of your life with that one? Oh, no. I'm just saying, how do you know? That's how relationships work. That's how marriage work. Yeah, they're in love.

It's always a chance, mall. It's never like a fucking guarantee. But how do you know? Do you ever really know? or do you just take a chance I think everyone takes a chance. It's a chance. Life's a chance.

They believe. Yeah, but wait. That chance could wait. But then it could be too late. Then that means it wasn't meant for you. Or you waited too long. Because love waits. Because love waits.

Nah, love doesn't really wait. No, it waits. Love waits, but. Not for that long. Love waits. Relationships don't always wait. How long do you think love waits? Forty one of years.

Love waits until it, you know. It is what it is. Ah. Ah. I never thought about it that way. Niggas be rushing to get married to a chick that don't, they don't even really know for real. That'd be happening a lot.

Yeah. But that's not. That's not in this case at all. I'm just saying, we don't know that. Five years. Well, they're young. They don't even know themselves yet. Yeah.

They're 20-something years old. What if in that case, they didn't have to wait that long? They don't even know who they are yet. Okay, but when you're asking someone to marry you, you're not committing to the person. that they are then. You're committing to this person as a whole and hope that you will grow together

no matter like whoever this person grows into being and whoever I grow to be, we're making a like making a pack to appreciate each other and to grow together and go on this path of life together. Of course we're going to become different people. The marriage is I'm going to love you no matter what. That is what they're going.

I'm going to love you no matter what. Only if you propose to me within three years. you keep saying within three years, like it's not within eight years. You keep just saying three. It's eight years. I don't know about eight years because he didn't know he's married by year one. It should be 29. A lot of people look at the pattern of engagement, marriage, kids, house.

Like that all takes 15, 20 years in totality. So that's why some people rush by definition into engagements after eight years because I have to start the steps for the rest of my life. That's where it's not like. We just sat here and read the numbers. It's not like marriage is going anywhere. Well, yeah, we just sat here and read the numbers on how many people get divorced now. Oh, no, listen.

It's a chance and it's fucking. The chance. But just because people get divorced doesn't mean that marriage doesn't work. I'm not saying, I never said marriage doesn't work. But people get divorced a lot because people get engaged quickly and don't really know each other. Sure. And then they try to learn each other through engagement. And then they realize, oh, shit, I don't really like this person.

But you keep saying they don't know each other. You're never going to fully know your partner. You change every two. every year. Every year I'm a different person. I will be growing for the rest of my life. The Mary says you get the new pussy every week. Camillion hat-hous. Anyway, I will be growing for the rest of my life. You'll be growing for the rest of your life. You're always going to be a different person than you were before. So we have to recommit to learning each other. You're never just going to know me. You can have known me for 15 years. And two years

from now, I could still become a different person. Does that mean that I should never get married or that I should break up with somebody every three years when I grow? No, it's committing to you're going to keep growing. I'm going to keep growing. I'm going to keep growing and we're going to continue to learn each other. That's the point of, so far in my eyes, that's the point of marriage. You're never going to fully know me because I'm never going to continue to be the same person than I was. So.

Now, you just said something right there. I'm built different. I agree with her. She's not wrong. Yeah. I think people get divorced so much because they can't handle somebody growing. They can't handle someone changing. Granted, I know sometimes people become completely different people and that isn't what you

signed up for and I can respect that. But I also think that some people just. aren't willing to watch somebody grow and to wait for them to grow. Like, I don't think, or to, you know, change and become a chameleon with the person that they become. I don't think some people are willing to do that. Life is so, like, crazy. Because think about it. You get engaged with somebody, right?

You think you know this person. Then you have a kid. What if this person is just a horrible parent? You don't know that. Yeah, but again, relationships are risks. Everything's a risk. But that's what I'm saying. Like, that's why life is just like, it's scary because it's like, you think you know this woman or this man and then you have a child.

and you're like, oh, you're a piece of shit. You hope you're the time invested in you. I would imagine most people going into an engagement are thinking about marriage, children, future, and already view them with potential to be a good parent. Yeah. I don't think anyone has the assumption that someone's going to be a shitty mother or father.

It's like, well, let's get engaged. No, but I'm saying you don't know. You don't know until it happens. No, of course you never know. But what Julian just said, everything is a risk. I also think there's red flags for shit like that. I think there's red flags. Somebody could be an amazing partner to you, but if you see they're selfish to everybody else in their life, I was just talking about that on Twitter where somebody was like, they said that same exact thing.

Like, you don't know if somebody would be a good parent yet. Like, they can completely change once they have a kid. Like, you never know. So you can't blame people once, like, their baby father run out on them. And I'm just like, I feel like people are really bad at seeing red flags if the red flags aren't happening to them. Like, if you have a friend that talks shit about everybody else and then or does everybody else dirty and you're just. just hanging with them and you see it like, oh, they did that person dirty. And then you get done dirty and you're like, oh, damn, they did me dirty too.

Like, you didn't see that red flag. I think people are really good at ignoring red flags. So I think if somebody's going to be a shitty parent, when I say a shitty parent, they're selfish or they're extremely impatient or they're violent, you're telling me that this person has never shown you any inkling of this before the kid came. I, unfortunately, I just don't believe that. Yeah, but a lot of people pull blinders up in relationships. Exactly. For sure. They see what they want to see.

They see potential and what they want the person to be rather than who they are. And sadly, more often than not, people think those life-changing moments a kid or buying a house are going to eradicate or change the things that they may have ignored in the past. Like, oh, now we went from the small one studio apartment to a multi-bedroom home. This will change their, you know. That was our problem. Yeah, yeah. Studio apartment.

You needed another room. We need more space. More walls. We want to top of each other. More walls to throw me into. But then you can't stop cheating if we're not in this place. Yeah. You can't blame the person and say, oh, they changed.

No, you just were at. You are not taking accountability for acting stupid on purpose. Well, hopefully, sir, we gave us some good advice. I'm sure we didn't. But I say wait. You seem like a smart guy. You'll make the right time. You'll figure it out.

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