New Rory & MAL - Episode 220 | We’re Not Afraid To Talk About Diddy
Episode Date: November 21, 2023We’re back stateside from London and immediately went to the studio. We recap our abroad experience which featured cameos from former president Bill Clinton, 50 Cent blowing hookah smoke in Rory’s... face, and Mal at the carnival with Giggs. We also get the latest installment of Rory’s airport rage. Then we pivot to Diddy. We had a different discussion about him on the latest patreon, but we bring a nuanced perspective on this episode. Will the music industry look in the mirror? In music news, Drake released again while we were on the road. Julian introduces a conspiracy that Drake was talking about Rory & Mal. Then we discuss Andre’s flute album. It’s time for voicemails. Tune in as the guys discuss all of this + more! Thank you again London for an amazing sold out show. NY is the last show of the year and is also sold out…we’ll see you December 2nd at Sony Hall. Follow The Team:Rory - https://www.instagram.com/thisisrory/Mal - https://www.instagram.com/mal_bytheway/Eddin - https://www.instagram.com/thankyoueddin/Julian - https://www.instagram.com/julian__nicholas/Demaris - https://www.instagram.com/demarisagiscombe/Merch: https://newrorynmal.com/Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/newrorynmalYouTube Subscribe: https://rb.gy/hk7up Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoicesSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Roy, I'm not going to lie, bro. This jet lag is real. I'm exhausted.
No, like, you don't, like, you have no idea. I don't know if I should be getting ready for dinner or if I should, like, be just waking up.
Do you're a little lagged? Yeah, it's bad. You're lagged lad? A lot of fun, though. Had a lot of fun in
London, but the body is worn out.
Well, we came in last night, and now we're right back in the studio recording.
Look at dedication.
Damaris flew in from Rochester.
She's a little jet lag as well.
Being jet lag from Rochester to Manhattan.
But yes, we had a great time in London.
We were there from Wednesday to Sunday, so we definitely got the London experience.
It rained last time we were there.
We didn't get to see much.
I felt like we utilized our time very well this year.
It rained, but not as many.
The last two days was a little rainy.
Yeah.
Other than that, the weather held up pretty good.
When we landed, the morning we got there, it was beautiful.
Yeah, yeah.
60 and sunny.
A lot of people was hitting me like, yo, y'all definitely brought the sun because before we got there, it was nasty all week.
Mori.
We control the weather.
I mean, who else would bring the sun but a ginger, you know?
That is true.
Yeah.
I was shamed by Benner for over a year by not going to see the sights last year.
I agree.
I agree with him.
And then we went this year, and it's just a fucking clock.
It is.
Yeah.
It kind of is just a big clock at the end of the day.
I'm glad we, what is it?
Big Ben.
But what's it?
They changed it.
Didn't the queen get like a little?
They changed it?
They changed the name?
No, they didn't.
She got a little angry and they changed it.
Oh, it's her name's an Elizabeth Tower.
Ew.
Damn.
That clock transced.
Yeah.
You've never seen a transitional clock.
They chopped the tip off.
As if the royal family needed anything more named after them in that fucking city.
Yeah.
And didn't they just recently do that?
And that clock is like centuries old.
The construction for it started in 1843.
So, yeah.
As old as Elizabeth.
I just feel like every site that we saw,
I went to Buckingham Palace a bunch of times
because it was...
Right there.
We walked by it every day.
Everything in London as far as architecture
and their tourist stops
looks like they're sacrificing children inside every single one.
Oh my God.
Like nothing looks like they're safe things,
safe practices in any of their buildings.
No.
Well, speaking of sacrificing children,
didn't you see a bill?
Hey, what?
All right.
See?
I like that.
That's fucked up.
I knew you was up.
Because he was great.
Now Rory's opinion, not that Rory ever spoke bad about him.
But now he's going to.
Wait, what did I say?
You're speaking down on my head.
Nothing at all.
You spoke the truth, my Croposodian brother.
There's a reason why only Rory and I went.
Yeah.
Oh, Mawall, so you opted out.
You didn't go.
You didn't have a choice.
I thought he was in a business.
No, Bill heard his opinions.
You didn't have a choice.
I would never want to meet Bill Clinton.
Oh, so Bill's told that said that mall couldn't come.
Bill doesn't know who the fuck mall is.
Oh, bills that don't know on the,
second day,
Julian and I
walked a few blocks
to go meet
the former president
of the United States,
Bill Clinton.
Him.
We chatted for a little bit.
I stuck to my words,
guys.
When we had that debate
when Maul said
he would never meet Bill Clinton
and I said,
listen, I have some issues
with him too,
but I'm phony.
I'm gonna go meet the president.
Yeah.
We met...
Listen, man,
I stick to my word.
Hillary was there,
HRC.
Hillary was there with a Birkin.
Jumped out
the range
with a blue Birkin.
Looking clean, sprighty.
She got a pep in her step.
She said, ah-ah.
You asked about the emails?
No.
I bet you didn't.
See, y'all not tent toes down.
Ten toes.
I get around these people.
Your guys still hide this.
Chummy, chummy.
These is nasty people, man.
I mean, I know you're...
You can't talk about the nasty buildings in London
and what goes on in there.
And we met Bill Clinton.
Yeah, no, I'm an American.
Yeah.
He's just...
I think of your nastiness.
I don't even fucking...
All right.
All right.
So, you value American nastiness.
Yes.
I'm going to sound like I'm...
Which is England.
doing a bit of a spin here.
How would that have went if on the side of the street
when someone said, hey, this is Bill Clinton,
and I said, hey, what about her emails?
Do you think Bill and I'm like,
oh, finally someone asked me that question.
Let me tell you.
No one's ever asked to.
No.
No, but y'all went out of y'all way to meet him.
Well, we're friends with staff.
There was a bunch of people there that we knew.
That we were also saying hello to.
Former governor of Virginia, who is the man.
Great guy.
I don't know his background, so sorry, guys,
but he was cool.
Saying that you don't even know anything about him is crazy.
I didn't know his face.
I didn't know his name.
He just introduced himself.
And he said, I'm the best governor of Virginia's ever had.
We're like, I believe you.
Terry.
This man.
A white man named T.
See, this is why, yo.
He looked like he knew how to throw him back too.
Put it in reverse, Terry.
Yeah, y'all sit on here and give me all this shit I say about Trump.
Look, Terry.
He's a man.
Y'all not telling me Terry looked like he's in a group text.
Group sex with Trump?
No, he's a Democrat. He was with Bill. He placed cards with Bill. He was on the road with Bill.
Usually, Hillary travels separately. But for this, Hillary is involved with a university in Wales.
I know, I know. They went to pick up three leaders of a journey chrome. I know.
Came back and Bill's like, I want some, like, my guys, he wanted to make it a guy's trip.
So he brought Terry along and a couple other guys.
And Hillary. Good crew.
And he wasn't, all right, so he wasn't really the level, former governor.
It wasn't really the level of Illuminati that scared me.
it was when we met the head of Democratic funding
where I was like, I'm going to end up on a list
die. Yeah.
Yeah, it was some Illuminati shit.
He had a wire on.
You'd be a good side of her.
Oh, you got a picture.
Yeah.
We did.
And it was cool.
My mother, Irish Democrat, for some reason, still loves the Clintons.
So she was, she liked the photo.
When did you ever seen Rory smile like that?
Yeah, he's just as red as Clinton.
I was just trying to get him to play saxophone on my next album.
He said nothing to do with politics.
He just also happens to be a former president.
You're right.
Excuse me?
He said he got good pipes.
I mean, look, as long as you had fun,
you had a good time.
Well, Roy, you've been sending your mom a lot of pictures of...
I'm just saying, when y'all see me pop out with my picture of Trump,
I don't want to hear shit.
I mean, that'd be cool.
I don't want to hit...
No, you would judge me.
Last week you said he hope he dies.
For your sake, two things can be true.
I want...
You hope somebody dies that you never met.
For your sake, I don't know nothing about.
I would hope you gave a photo before that.
Okay.
That's fair.
That'd be kind of cool.
There you go.
Then it'll be worth more.
It would be way more.
Or you can dig him up on his golf course that he probably will bury himself on where he buried
his ex-wife just so he doesn't have to pay tax on that land anymore.
Gangster.
That's actually pretty good.
That's pretty smart, actually.
That's gangster.
I would do it for my baby father.
Yeah.
Fucking insane.
Rich baby daddy.
Trump is a rich baby daddy.
What you want him to do?
He is a rich baby dad.
Yeah, bury her right there.
This is a tax-free land now.
God of love America.
Kind of smart.
Yeah.
Any next bill about that?
No.
How do we avoid these taxes?
That didn't come.
Well, if we were in the UK.
We didn't mention Pete.
Should have brought a booty judge.
Did you mention the 26 trips to Epstein Island?
No, we will mention the, no, we didn't ask the flight laws.
We'll mention the lesbian couple on stage at the show, Mall.
Oh, yeah, that was great.
That was a great time.
Shout out to the lesbian couple.
Now, it was interesting because last year she had a boyfriend on stage.
Shout out to everybody that came out to the live show.
We had a great time at the Leicester Square Theater.
Shout out to the staff.
The staff was really cool.
The Secret Service was there as well.
You didn't feel safer?
No.
You're welcome.
No.
My boy suspect was in the building.
I felt real.
He sounds pretty secure to you.
Shout to suspect.
Shout to suspect for coming out, man, kicking it with us.
Word.
But yeah, the show was great.
The staff was great.
Sold out.
Another sold out show in London.
Thank you to everybody in London.
And we had to battle with 50 cent for ticket sales.
Yeah.
Actually, it was Dave before.
Look at us.
We're going up against the legends.
How can they not name us?
the icons in this game, Rory.
Look, I mean, look who we battling.
It's still selling out.
Dave Chappelle?
This was the nastiest video.
This was the nastiest fucking.
Oh, I forgot about this.
So this was, uh, this was after we forgot about this.
That's something you forgot about?
Yeah, because this was like a quick, we was there for the hour, Roy?
It wasn't, wasn't there.
An hour of 50 cents sounds pretty.
An hour and Roy got lamb chops to go and had 50 cent blowing hooka smoke in his face.
I don't know, why I'm one of the thing.
Roy's shocked on the smoke.
I felt like one of the girls.
You shocked him with 50?
Rory was nervous when we pulled up.
I had to, like, reassure me.
that everything would be okay.
Why was he nervous?
Well, all right, I didn't know.
We're with gigs at, like, the carnival, which was fun.
That's where the video of Maul dangling.
Shout out the high park went to Wonderland.
So we're walking out, and I'm thinking Giggs is going to go meet 50,
and we're going to have dinner with gigs after he does his 50 thing.
Yeah.
Then Maul and I get in the Uber, and he's like, oh, no, we're going to the 50 dinner.
I was like, oh, we make sure he doesn't hate me.
Why would he hate you?
Uh, him and Shaw Money have had some tension before.
I think they're on better terms now.
Okay.
There's been some history, so, you know, my loyalty was always to Shah.
So I didn't know where things stood.
And I didn't know if I would have been welcomed to the table, but quite the opposite.
Fiv was very hospitable.
Julian should have came because, you know, no one was talking to the white girls.
Damn.
Where are they in this video?
Right next to the right.
Yeah, there they are.
Yeah, it was fun.
It was a good night.
We had a good time.
You guys were too far.
50, 50, uh, forced me to take.
ticket shot. Yes. Can't tell 50, no, I felt like my life was in danger. If I was like, no, I'm good.
He looked at me. It was like, yo, it's very smooth. Celebrate life. You know, after somebody
looks from y'all and said that. Celebrate life. You're going to say, no, I'm not celebrating life.
I had to celebrate life. But it was a cool night. 50 was cool. And then he got out of there and did what he did.
The funny shit when we was leaving, it was like some people standing around outside.
So 50 security was telling people to like to kind of like, you know, make a way, let 50 get to his car,
whatever, whatever. So a gentleman was standing there. I guess he wasn't moving.
fast enough. And all you heard was like a, like a, you know, when something like falls, like a butt.
Yeah. You heard that. Like there was this dude. And dude has some size on him. He was on his back
in the middle of the street. Like 50 security had like completely knocked him off his feet on his
back. I thought it was going to go down right there. Because you can tell that dude wasn't like no,
he wasn't no chump. But but the security was like just a little too, you know, you got to size up your
competition a little bit, like let me just take this L. 50's in the car. Let me just move aside.
But all that I said, it was a fun night. It was a cool night. Shout out to 50. Shout out to
anybody that was at the Royal Nova. I forgot the name of it. Nova. Something like that.
And I don't want to shit on the DJ that was there that night, but it wasn't us.
It definitely wasn't Edna and I. We would have had that place moving. We got to figure out
doing it. But with gigs and 50 there, the DJ did.
what I think artists absolutely fucking hate
is when you just play all their music
sitting there.
What the fuck?
But he took it a step further
and tried to blend
gig songs with 50 songs
at a completely different BPM.
It was like, me and Molly and you're like,
where's he taking us with P-IMP now?
I didn't even know they did a song together.
I'm like, I ain't even know
50 gigs did a song together.
Like, okay, this is exclusive we get.
I'm like, oh no, this is old stuff
that he's playing and just like changing the...
But it was, you understand it.
Like, they're trying to, you know,
let people know your 50s here.
We were going to celebrate him and things like that.
The funniest part, though, that you forget is when the DJ just randomly yell, fuck Jaru.
Damn.
So me and Broder took each other and was like, what?
So I turned in, I looked at 50, 50 was like, dying laughing.
I said, I was not thinking fuck Jaru at all tonight.
I promise you, that thought did not run through my mind at all.
But I was there, whatever, whatever.
I guess it's fuck Jiru tonight, whatever.
But it was a good night, though.
We had a good time.
When he tried to match, I forgot what gig song it was, but he tried to match it with Many Men.
And he did the sped-up version.
Yeah.
Many men, I was like, all right, man.
Whoa.
That's a very specific, many men is a very specific BPM.
You can't play with that beat.
He did like Many Men dubstep to try to catch the BPM the Ketap.
You can't do that, man.
And I understand, you know, that's part of the Mediterranean vibe.
You know, it was like a Hoogelama.
Mediterranean.
Oh, wow.
You know what I mean?
Like, I get it.
You know, they was trying to cater to that.
But many men, you got to leave alone, no.
I'm sure there's a way to do it.
That just wasn't it.
That wasn't the way.
Don't change the BPM.
You could change the, you know, the melody maybe and the beat,
but not the BPM, no, don't do that.
Well, I mean, after meeting with Bill one day and then 50 the next.
That's kind of hard.
I'll take any industry joke.
I'm a sell out.
Like, what do you want for me?
That's fine.
It's okay.
As long as you own up.
We're not judging you.
But the funniest part of the trip may have been when we landed back in New York last year.
Oh, another celebrity.
Oh.
So we joke about Rory all the time when we go to the airport.
Like, Rory's a Karen.
100%.
I don't know that.
He's a Karen when you're going to the airport.
He feels like everybody should move out of his way.
Everything should stop.
Things should go his way.
Yeah.
He was also really sleepy.
I was.
Fan, we all were.
No, we were leaving?
Coming back.
Hold on.
Let's start from when we were leaving London.
Let's start there.
Because I want to defend myself on being a parent.
Because I don't think it was Karen behavior.
That was one thousand.
Me and Julian were crying laughing at the camera behavior.
So we get, we're flying upper class, not to sound like we stunned, but we're flying
upper class.
The upper class has a whole different, has a whole different TSA entrance.
Once you leave the lounge where you can chill, you can eat, watch TV before your fight,
before your flight, there's a separate TSA lounge, TSA line that you go through that's
completely empty, right?
It's dead.
It's literally just us.
It was lit.
A lot of us, right?
So we're walking through, taking our stuff off.
And Rory goes, oh, I.
I have pre-check.
Which doesn't exist.
So, so, so, so the TSA agent looks and goes, huh?
He goes, cool.
He's like, okay.
Like, like, so Roy was like, you don't know.
So he was like, you don't know.
So Roy turns around.
I was like, he works at the airport, doesn't know what pre-check is.
Like, he starts his carriage shit, right?
So I'm like, look at this idiot.
So I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, Rory, we're not in America.
Pre-check does not exist outside.
That's an American travel.
I thought you knew that already.
No.
I had no idea.
fan asking for pre-check when
we're in the exclusive line.
That's, okay, but that's where I wanted to defend myself.
We got there two hours ahead of time.
We were doing great. We were chilling. We had fucking
I packed it gotten butt ass and had
play. Right. I packed my
bag a certain way
and I don't take
my shoes off or take my laptop out because
I pay for TSA pre-check. They did a
background, extensive search on me
to make sure I wasn't a terrorist and I paid.
So I don't want to take my shoes
off or my laptop out when I go
through TSA.
In America.
In America.
In America.
Fair.
But you have to think,
I'm thinking there's precheck
around the entire world.
Because you're an American privilege.
It's an American.
American Karen.
And then I thought about it and was like,
oh yeah,
if America did my background,
why the fuck would another country?
I mean,
that's why me and Julian was laughing.
But to my point, though,
even if there's five people,
you wouldn't want to not take your shoes off
and they don't have to fucking cook you
in that,
the spinning.
Fam, that's shit.
like two seconds. I don't even
put my arms up. They said you're good.
Bro, I was like, wait, you sure?
Yeah, walk through. No security. You just
walk through that thing.
In pre-check, you go through the old regular
one. The shit doesn't even beep.
You guys been to the dentist before?
You are about to. They put a
whole fucking Kevlar vest
on you when shit happens.
We walk through that fucking thing
with nothing. When you get an x-ray,
you're supposed to put the thing on.
It's not an x-ray. It's not an x-ray.
You sound worse than all with this conspiracy shit.
I'm also not vaccinated.
What the fuck you want for me?
I think everything's...
No one cares about that anymore.
So all of our bags are fine.
Except for Rory's bag
ends up getting pulled to the side
for extra inspection.
And then he really got on his shit.
Yeah.
They took his lotion.
Yeah.
Hotel lotion.
Could have beat off on the train.
Hotel lotion.
It was really good lotion.
It was good lotion, though.
I'm not going to hold you.
I was great.
I was excited to bring it back home.
I love traveling to the airport.
People like that.
But like, all right.
You're taking my lotion,
but I'm also.
can have unlimited drinks on a plane.
What's more dangerous?
By lotion or tequila?
I was like, I was like, I'm going to let him get his shit off.
You can't open bar on the plane, but I can't have.
So I can bring Hennessy.
I can't have Alvara.
But not.
Yeah.
It's a scam.
He just took a small bottle of.
They're all in cahoots with the lotion business.
And they want you to buy more.
When you land, you have to buy more lotion.
Yeah.
That's how it goes.
And it's not like, I understand.
Everyone has to take the shoes off because of the shoe bomber guy, right?
Remember?
Yeah.
That's when things changed.
Yeah.
When did the lotion bomber happen?
I think...
Well, they were hiding explosives in like...
In lotion, yeah.
Stuff like chemicals.
Yeah, like if you squeeze the bottle too hard,
it might detonate.
That's actually a possible thing.
I still think tequila open bar on a plane
is way more fucking dangerous.
I'll get you.
Allo.
Why?
What are you going to do?
Have so much fun?
We did throw back like four bottles of wine.
Oh, my...
Yeah.
It was great.
It was a great flight.
And then we land.
So Karen is not finished yet.
Karen is never off duty,
if you know Karen.
So we get to the carousel
The bludgages are coming off.
Like, all right, cool, getting all our bags.
All of the bags come off except for what seems to be Rory's larger piece of luggage that is missing.
Yeah.
So we like, oh, damn.
It's almost midnight.
It's almost midnight.
Like, we die damn.
We're going to have to stick with Rory to go to Lost and Found.
Yeah, we're so bad.
So I'm like, fuck.
This is the worst.
Yeah, he had a lot of bags.
This is the worst way to end the trip, right?
So we're there.
So there's a bag going around on the conveyor belt.
Watch your boy.
That looks exactly like Rory's bag.
So Rory was like, he's like, no.
That's not my bag.
I'm like, damn.
So automatically I'm thinking like, yeah, you know,
sometimes you have the same luggage as other people that's traveling,
which is why I put like stickers and shit on my bag
because I have like a black luggage.
Everybody has black luggage.
Right.
But I put a stick on mine so I can identify it as soon as it comes off the belt.
So I'm like, damn, this bag keeps going around.
At least 20 times.
So I'm like, shit.
So we're standing there for probably 20 times.
It was probably, it was probably 80 times.
We probably standing there for like almost.
20 minutes.
Look, there were no bags
that come off the belt.
It was your bag
and that busted DK&Y bag.
That was no one.
Somebody's whole luggage.
The bag was,
somebody's bag was completely open.
And that was first class,
right?
And this luggage
that isn't Rory's bag,
seemingly, right?
So I'm like, you know what?
Seemingly.
After about 20 minutes
of standing there,
we wait in to see
if all of the luggage
comes off.
So pretty much no more luggage
is coming down the belt.
I say Julian,
the next time the bag comes around,
just take it off the thing
so we can look at the name
on it.
and say, because the idea was
this is somebody else's bag,
they mistake their back,
Rory's bag for their bag.
So I'm like, okay, once we look at the tag,
we can take it to Lost and Found.
They can contact this person
and have their number, email,
hey, we think you took the wrong bag.
We have your bag here at the airport.
This is what we're thinking, right?
So I say, Julian, just grab the bag
so we can look at the name on it,
take it to Lost and Found.
Julian was like, all right, cool.
He picks up the bag,
takes it off, so I'll pick up the tag.
I'm looking at the tag.
Rory's like, it's not my bag.
Looking at the tag,
Rory Farrell.
There could have been too.
No.
I don't have been so agitated.
You wasn't as agitated as Bitter.
We haven't seen Bender.
Since I said, this is your bag?
Binner left.
Didn't say a word.
I haven't seen the stuff.
Because Benner was trying to hoe.
And you were like, no, fuck that.
That's not my bad.
So stubborn about this fucking.
That's not my back.
That's not my back.
I know what my bag.
Did he hit us with a surprise.
Delirious.
He is a, you think I don't know my bag?
You think I don't know my bag?
I'm like, well, you're that sauce to it.
I didn't do.
What?
You were cranky.
Okay, maybe I did.
I was cranky as far cranky.
After Malcheked the tagging, you saw it, you were like, no, he paused for a good 20 seconds.
You felt like, you felt like, I've never been more embarrassed in my life.
Yeah, you was like, gosh, you have all the right to kill me.
Like, I'm so sorry.
Like, I was just like, it's all right, Karen.
Come on.
Let's just get out of that airport.
Like, let's just leave.
Yeah, we got over really fast.
Left.
At that point, it was.
just like, fuck it, we got the bags, let's go.
Have you ever seen this is the end?
Yeah.
With all the guys.
What's the skinny kid from Superbad?
Michael Sarah.
When Michael Sarah is screaming at everyone,
who the fuck stole my cell phone?
My phone and it was in his pocket the whole time.
That's exactly how I felt.
No, I get it.
I understand.
But it was just a perfect way to end the trip.
So we thought.
Oh, yeah.
So we thought.
So we get outside, right?
Y'all know how JFK is.
Cab drivers.
You were really cranky.
They're all hustling.
Everybody's hustling trying to get a ride.
We were also like, gosh.
So we get outside.
So a gentleman approaches and he says, hey, I can take all of this, I can fit all of this
luggage inside my van.
Just let me know where you're going.
So now you see the negotiation starting to happen.
So I'm standing there.
Now, I've seen a lot of CSI.
This is how CSI cases happen.
Yeah.
This gentleman looked like he had about 17 cats in his home.
100%.
He only eats tuna.
Yeah.
Like, he had that look to him.
Yeah.
So I was like, I'm looking.
looking at us, so Roar was negotiating.
Roy's like, okay, we got two stops.
We're going to Low Manhattan.
And Roy's shitting on him the entire time.
Yeah, he's like, he's like, would you ask him if it was from where?
Bay Ridge.
Bay Ridge?
I forgot what I.
You just immediately were like, this guy looks dusty and I'm pissed.
He would ask us to go.
Shit with him.
Oh, no.
You're like, you fit all this shit in your fucking thing?
I asked him from Howard Beach.
Howard Beach.
I asked he was from Howard Beach.
Then I saw his van and said, never mind.
Yo.
So he says, look, no one's Howard Beach.
would have that van.
They negotiated a deal.
Cool.
My Uber's pulling up.
I'm like, y'all have a great time, right?
God bless.
The guy's like, okay, here's the thing.
I have to go pee, though.
So you guys walk to my van.
It's right there in a lot.
I'm like, man, hell, this sound like a scam.
Like, y'all going to be standing in that parking lot
wait for this dude and he's never coming back.
So they're like, I bet.
This happened to us in London already, though.
Remember we were waiting for our Uber driver,
trying to find the car.
We find it.
It's parked.
No one's in it.
The guy was pissing.
Oh my God, yes. I forgot about that.
For like five minutes. He was gone.
And there were people outside smoking and drinking.
They go, you're looking for your driver?
Like, yeah. He goes, he's taking a pee at the loo.
Okay. What?
So we're used to it. This one. Yeah.
We respect driver's bladders.
Do we? Y'all go and get in this van.
Y'all take all of this luggage. I go my separate ways.
And I'm just like, man, I hope I see these guys again in life.
What was the text you sent us?
I was like, yo, it's been a pleasure.
He was like, at least your.
I said the last time I, the last image of you guys,
we were all laughing, we were all standing there laughing and joking.
That's the way I want to remember y'all.
Because I just knew it was going to be bad.
Oh, it was the most stereotypical, like, movie script,
rapist van that you could.
Abducting children.
When he opened the doors.
There was tape on anything.
No, it was loud as fuck.
Mind you, it wasn't even the regular van tires.
It looked like he took, like, Ford focused tires and put them on a van.
They were Michelin tires.
I was like, I don't think the weight can support these.
Roy pointed out and he goes, dude, what are these tires?
And the guy goes, those are Michelin, sir.
Yeah.
And then he opens the door and there's duct tape holding the lights together.
Guy was mad nice, by the way.
Oh, he was fucking great.
We talked the entire time.
And mind you, the van looked like shit on the outside.
Once we got in, I was like, it's a pretty good choice.
We had like captains chairs.
They were like lazy boys.
Did I keep the car?
I have it in my apartment.
I took a picture of me.
We got to give him a shout out, man.
He was from the Bronx.
It's from Riverdale.
I didn't took some footage of us.
We were up, mind you, we're drunk and exhausted.
It was just bad.
It was just bad.
Content.
That's the man.
More picture of content.
Who's idea was it to, was that Binner?
Bender was gone.
We haven't seen Binner since we fucking figured out that that was Rory's Bay.
D'Marer, I'm not saying it was smart thinking, but this was my thinking.
He was cranky.
When I was cranky, Uber's worth taking a while.
Also, we would have had to get two big SUVs.
Like, this guy said he could fit all 10 of our fucking bags in there and would do two stops for cheaper than what one Uber would have been.
And you haggled mildly.
Very mildly.
There's Richard.
Richard.
He was great, man.
Shout out to Richard, man.
I apologize, Richard.
I'm glad you did.
We became great friends.
Kidnap and rape and kill my friends.
I'm so glad I got that for Richard.
Yeah, man.
Thank you, Richard.
So, no, it worked out.
No, it worked. And it was probably the fastest trip from JFK to the city I've ever had in my life.
Yeah, it was great.
We got the studio in 22 minutes.
Word.
Oh, that's dope.
But shout out to Richard, his limo service.
Hopefully you get enough business to get some doors with some oil on it.
You know how like when mall wants to like really stunt and impress whatever woman's in town?
And he gets that sprinter.
You got to call Richard.
I think I'm just going to go rich.
Yeah.
Cruise around the city and that van.
No, have fun.
Content.
Yeah.
It looks like an off shooter.
the bang bus.
But that was a good end to a great trip in London.
Once again, thank you to everybody that came out to the show.
Thank you to everybody that we met, all the pictures we took.
Shout out to our fan from Portugal.
Yeah, it was great.
He flew on from Portugal, him and his girlfriend or wife.
I don't want to disrespect them.
But he said, yeah, if you can look up the data on your fans in Portugal, I'm probably the only one.
I was like, thank you, man.
I don't know if you should do this or not, but thank you, I appreciate it.
Ireland showed out.
A lot of people flew.
from Ireland to the show.
I thought that was great.
No, just overall,
London has great crowds, man.
Yeah, it was a great time in London.
Thank you again,
and hopefully we'll be back soon,
and it's not another year.
I'm happy you guys have fun.
Oh, we got, having fun.
Demara, since we missed you,
we got you a gift.
Y'all do not think about me.
Y'all be having the time of y'all lives.
Literally got you a gift.
Oh, my God!
We went to the Harry Potter store.
Pam.
We got you a Slythering,
like, snuggy.
Thank you.
That's a crazy hoodie.
Oh, that's the slithering, right?
It's so cute.
Yes, I'm a Slytherin.
You want to put it on?
Makes sense.
Right now?
Yes, because I'm freezing.
They told Rory multiple times during checkout that this was the last one available.
Which is kind of cool.
They wanted him to feel away or feel special about that.
He goes, I hear you.
Thank you.
I don't care.
I don't give a fuck.
Thanks, man.
Just put it in the bag.
People take Harry Potter like merch very seriously.
Oh, yeah.
That store was.
That was packed.
I mean, it was very close to the hotel.
They're on over there.
tell. So every day it was just crowded. Yeah. Well, thank you again, London for the love.
Yeah, we had a great time, man. London was a lot of fun. We definitely did. Obviously, a lot
happened while we were in a lot. A lot happened in America. It was an interesting week to have
limited service. I'll say that. Yeah. Every time I got Wi-Fi, I had to catch myself up to everything
that was going on. We did do a Patreon while we were out there with our friends, L.
and NADA, which was a great episode.
Shout out to L's.
Shout out to Nata.
We discussed the Diddy and Cassie.
Well, at that point, settlement in situation.
In probably more detail at the time, what was that on Sunday?
No, Saturday.
Saturday.
Our time, it was about 7.
So it was about 2 p.m. E.T. when that happened.
So yeah, on Patreon, we got into everything that was happening
at the time and I mean I don't think I need to give too much of a backstory I feel like everyone
listening has somewhat of an idea of what's been going on between Puff and Cassie she filed a lawsuit
against him for sexual assault rape sex trafficking abuse amongst a laundry list of other
accusations which was settled within 12 hours maybe yeah yeah puff settled undisclosed amount
Cassie was looking for 30 million.
Puff it out a statement.
Prayers and love to Cassie or some shit we know Puff didn't write.
But now I feel like it's already coming and going.
It was news all fucking week.
And after that settlement, everyone just stopped talking about it.
It's fucking weird.
Yeah, well, we know why.
And the thing is, you know, things like this.
when you talk about abuse and rape and all of these other things that are in this lawsuit,
it's very shocking, it's very unfortunate, it's very surprising, it's disturbing, it's disgusting.
But unfortunately, in our culture and in our, you know, in this industry, this thing happens way too often.
So the silence is because a lot of people have a lot of
skeletons in their closet as well.
So a lot of people are not going to speak on certain things because they have things that
can be spoken on to.
So you think it's a mixture of that and people's fear of Puff or relationships with Puff.
Yeah, it's a fear of all of those things.
And, you know, everybody's protecting a bag.
Everybody's protecting money.
Everybody likes to pay bills.
Everybody wants to be able to pay their bills.
But nobody wants to protect integrity.
Nobody wants to protect morals.
And as you said the other day, you know, in this industry, unfortunately, morals and integrity are not valued.
No.
Money and power and status is what's valued and what's praised.
But that's always going to be the case in any industry.
Like this country, it's a capitalism-built, centered country.
So whether it be we've seen it in politics, we've seen it in other parts of the industry with Harvey.
money will silence people, money will keep this culture.
Yeah, but the thing is this though, Julian, we can't sit here and speak on when other people have these allegations that are not from our culture, right?
If an actor, if a white actor comes out tomorrow and has these same allegations, oh, we're going to sit here and dissect it.
We're going to speak about it.
But when it's our culture, yo, you know, I got to mind my business.
That's not my business and all these other things, right?
But it is because these are the same people.
people that we've championed. These are the same people that we've supported. These are the same
people that we've honored. These are the same people that I'll speak for myself, stood on lines
and purchased music as a kid. No Way Out was one of the first albums I ever purchased with
my own money. So when you think about all of these things now, and as you get older,
you start to, you know, things start to reveal themselves about these people that you hold
it's such a high regard.
I think it's, it is okay to talk about it and address it.
I, you know, and I agree with you.
I'm just saying the system, the same way in which I look at school shootings in the
Second Amendment, there's, they happen, there's a day or two of outrage, and then nothing
happens.
The cycle continues.
This system of money is so ingratiated into this country, but specifically entertainment
as well, money, power, all that shit, that something like this, has.
happens, money's put to put the fire out. Cassie gets her money. And in the general population's
terms, that's it. It's done because money will ultimately be the thing that decides how people
now move forward. If I put money behind it and Didi has enough to throw it, however many other
people that want to come out, then there's nothing else to talk about. So then then that I agree with you
in the sense that because money is put in front of this, people are like, okay, well, since she got paid,
there's nothing else to talk about.
And to your point, that's where I also have the issue is like, cool.
So we're not going to address the actual problem.
We're just going to like guns, address it when it happens, and then bury it until it happens again.
Right.
And it can happen again with the same person.
That's what happened.
This is going to happen again to Ditty.
It can happen again to Ditty.
But he has so much fucking money that he can afford to put here's a quick 10.
Here's a quick five.
Shut up.
Yeah, but see that again, man, you know, and I understand.
I get it. I understand how some people just, you know, they cash in their morals in their integrity.
I'm just not one of those people. Like, if putting me in a situation, if, and it won't ever happen
because that's just not my character in who I am, but if allegations like this was to come out
about me, there's no way I'm settling if I never did any of this. I will spend every dollar in my
account fighting this before I ever settle anything that isn't true on my name. I'm with you. I'm taking
the trial. There's no way. As far as we want to go, I'll get on the stand. Don't get me.
Don't give me the lawyer jargon about, oh, just because you settle don't mean it's an omission
of guilt. Cut the shit. Cut the bullshit. Don't give me lawyer jargon. As a culture,
fuck, as a culture, let's sit down and address this. Because it's a lot of fucked up nasty shit
going on behind the scenes. A lot of people sit back and watch it happen and act like they don't know
that it's happening. And that's a problem. Me personally.
Personally, I don't care about money.
Y'all know how I get down.
That means nothing to me.
Are you a good person?
That's how I fuck with you.
So when you start saying, yeah, money, I get it.
And I understand people align themselves because they want to have a lifestyle.
They want to be able to pay their bills and all this other shit.
But what about sleeping at night?
What about looking your kids in their eyes?
What about looking your daughters in their eyes?
And knowing that you're an honorable stand-up man and that you're going to defend what's right.
Because we're talking about simple.
right and wrong. That's all this is about. It's not right to abuse nobody. It's not a right to abuse
anybody. So if you're doing that, let's address it. And then let's get over it. Let's get whoever
needs help. Let's move past it as a culture the same way. If you put out a phenomenal album,
we sit here as a coach and dissect it, we listen to it, we party to it. So let's address trauma
the same way. Let's all sit down. Let's address it. Let's get through it and let's move forward.
so now we're better coming out of it.
But to sit back and say, oh, I'm going to mind my business,
or I'm going to do this.
But we don't mind our business on other things.
We'll happily tear apart other things and dissect other things.
We don't do that with other situations, so why do it here?
Other people, too, that have been accused of similar actions.
We've been vocal about it.
We've been vocal about it.
This is just it.
Listen, I've heard things about Ditty for years.
I used always laughing off, like, cut it out, man.
y'all got to stop the bullshit.
If Puff ever did any crazy shit like that as big as he is,
it would be a known thing.
It would be, and then here we are at an allegation like this.
You understand what I'm saying?
So me personally, does Puff owe me any explanation?
No.
Not at all.
But at the same time, I would like to hear something.
I would like to address the issue.
Don't just have a lawyer come out and say, oh, it's not an omission of guilt.
It is.
It is.
Because if somebody says, yo, Maul raped me and he abused me.
and he did whatever, whatever,
okay, well, we go on the court now, all the way.
I'm not settling shit.
I never put a hand on anybody.
I never abused nobody.
Let's go to court for it.
Well, Ma, when you say that you don't want to hear, like,
lawyer jargon, like you would like him to speak on it,
what would you like him to say?
The truth?
That sounds so easy.
Less about that.
I'm not even really concerned about what Diddy has to say about the situation
because he is going to lie.
He is going to, obviously, his whole career has been built
on projecting that he changes in brother love like come on he's projecting this image of himself
that he wants the people to see public facing i don't care about what he has to say about it i'm only
my only question to you guys is how should the music industry react and because he paid cassey off
will people continue to work with him will he put out another album yes what what needs what do you
think should happen to him in the space where he's actually creating content you're going about it the
wrong way you're saying the industry it's not about the industry it's not about the industry
It's about the people that supported you
and put you on this pedestal
and has afforded you
this lifestyle that you live.
But he's so far up there.
He is an entity.
It's like a wine scene.
You need to box someone out
by blackballing them
with your collective power.
Diddy can do whatever the fuck he wants.
He's been doing Diddy shit.
The people that are ultimately
the creators, the musicians,
the producers, the whoever,
the other creators in this space
need to collectively agree
to be like, okay, bet.
He did this shit.
shit, we're done here.
Do you think that's going to happen?
No. I don't think it's going to happen. I said on Patreon,
people are going to go
fuck with Diddy quicker than they did with Gunner.
I agree with you. Which is crazy.
I think people are going to align themselves with Diddy faster than people
did with Gunner. And, you know, it's unfortunate
because, again, we got to remember the victim.
Zuh. Plural. Victims.
Because another girlfriend came out and did an interview
on a show.
I'm sure that there will be other people coming out
that have things to say.
And at some point, you just have to address it.
Don't let the lawyers step out there
and we have to hear from the person
that we've heard from since I was a kid.
I don't want to hear from him.
You really want to hear from him?
I don't want to hear from him.
Absolutely.
Why?
Absolutely.
I want to hear the truth.
I want to hear the truth.
You think he's going to tell you the truth?
It's not about what I think.
I'm telling you what I want to hear.
I want to hear the truth out of did.
his mouth. I want him to address these allegations. I want him to sit down to say whether this is true or not.
Do you believe he did it? Do I believe it? Do I believe it? Yeah, I believe he did it. Okay, so then why do you
want him to come out and address it? If you already know what you believe and no matter what he says,
you're going to believe what you believe? No, I want him to address the allegations. The person that
would commit these heinous things is also the same person that would lie about it. Yeah, exactly.
That person doesn't, that person doesn't just all of a sudden get a lawsuit and find a change. A
accountability and
passioned and love
for everyone at that point.
But see, that's the problem though.
There's no compassion from someone that's doing that.
They're just going to lie about it.
No, absolutely.
But I feel like it's our job.
I feel like it's our job as just consumers
of the culture,
as someone who has given the culture
all that he's given.
We're just as invested
in Diddy the personality
and the man
as we all, the music.
Right.
Like, Diddy has sold us lifestyle forever.
He sold us fun parties.
Like, that's who Diddy is.
He's given the culture that forever.
We talk about all the time, one of the greatest ears and music ever.
We can't deny that part.
Sure.
At the same time, if you're telling me there's a part of this man that is guilty of these allegations
and that this is what he does behind closed doors, that needs to be addressed.
Because it's like, I don't want to support someone that's abusing.
people. I don't want to support that.
Are you going to continue to support him if he never talks?
No. But y'all know how I give it up. I just can't do that. Even if he does talk,
I'm with Moss because I believe the lawsuit. So even if he did come out make a statement,
that's not going to be like, all right, well, now I could fuck a puff. Because he said something.
Either way is clip there. I think that goes back to my point. It's not about what he says. It's about
how people in the industry react. Will people continue to work them? Because if you box him out,
then he won't have an influence.
It's not going to happen.
Is Revolt still with Breakfast Club?
I'm not sure.
I think so.
Let's triple confirm that.
I'm so heartbroken.
I can't watch Carisha, please, no more.
It looks like it's still under the breakfast club.
All right, so you have iHeart media,
arguably one of the biggest media corporation
in the entire fucking world,
in bed revolt TV.
You have a lot of the media outlets within our culture
are under the revolt flag.
They're not going to stop.
and they're probably not going to make any statements.
Oh, sorry.
So the deal ended in 2021.
The partnership ended in 2021.
Okay.
All right.
Then I take the Breakfast Club part back.
But the amount of people that are in bed with the companies that Puff owns,
I don't see anyone stopping what they're doing.
I don't think Norie brings it up or addresses it when during champs is with revolt.
I just can't see it.
I think everyone, I think everyone's,
And let's not put that on Norie's jacket
because maybe he will come out
and say something or address it
because he is under that umbrella.
But I give this another week
and it's going to be completely brushed under the rug
until more stuff comes out
and everyone is going to move on
like it didn't happen.
I agree with Julian and I think it's already
under the rug.
It's sad and it's fucked up.
It's sad and it's fucked up.
There's a lot of feature shows on Revolt too.
There's the crew league.
There's drink champs, assets of reliability.
Carisha.
it's a lot of shit.
Now does Puff...
I don't think Puff does this
because again,
I don't think people are
quote unquote concerned with it anymore
after the settlement happened,
which is unfortunate.
But if Puff did care about the people on his staff,
he would separate himself from Revolt TV
so people continue on doing what they're doing.
We've seen that plenty of times
when people get accused or settle over wild shit,
they separate themselves from their company
so the company can still continue to go on
and everyone doesn't have to come
out and address everything if you're working for someone.
I feel like that would be a good move, but I don't know.
I don't see that happening.
I don't see him parting ways with Sirak.
No.
I don't even think he does Sirrock anymore.
Okay.
Delian on then, I'm sorry.
Yeah.
Yeah, exactly.
I just, I don't see it.
I mean, you guys saw his response, the video he put on his story after he, you know,
that wasn't real.
This was lifted from his story.
That was not real.
That was the buck.
That was from last year.
That wasn't real.
Yeah, that was a lie.
But either way.
When do we think Did he shows his face?
He's nominated for however many Grammys.
Oh, yeah.
Grammys are in, what, January?
You know Puff was going to be there.
Does he show up?
It's going to be very interesting.
Do the Grammys allow him to come?
It's going to be very interesting to see that.
The Grammy's going to be February 4th.
That's going to be very interesting.
That's going to be very interesting.
That's going to be very interesting.
Does the Grammy still allow him to receive that nomination?
Do they allow him in the building?
I was going to say, is there any...
The fact of the decision has not been made yet means, to me, at least.
That they're going to do it.
Yeah, they don't think Puff will show up.
I think they probably talked behind the scenes.
Like, we'll stay quiet about everything.
Get your nomination.
You're not going to win, but just don't show up.
And we won't make a statement like, hey, we...
What's it?
Unnominate, if that's even a word?
Yeah.
Unnominated Puff for his Grammys.
Just don't show up, please.
I see a world where that conversation happened.
Right.
And the Grammys are waiting for this to just die down.
and the next thing happened.
Yeah.
I deactivated.
I deactivated my Twitter.
It just got really dark.
Like it was just like this is, I don't know whether it's different because I'm a woman,
but reading that lawsuit was so heartbreaking and just like it was just so dark and just
it hurt.
And then also because you, when you're on the internet, unfortunately your subject.
with this new for you page shit that they do where they just give you the opinions of people
you don't follow and people do anything for engagement and just the things that people were saying
so many men and women like the nasty things that they were saying and the way that they were
making Cassie to be out to be this villain and then on top of that you know with when the Meg
situation happened in the way that everybody knows how many people hate Meg like just
with that back to back of just like people defending abusers, I was like, oh, I can't. This is now
affecting me mentally and I don't know these people. Like, I have to remove myself. Like the full
transparency, I was happy y'all talked about it in London on the Patreon when I wasn't there because
I did not want to, I just want to like kind of pretend that this shit isn't even happening because
it's so dark. And it's just like someone that I've grown up listening to and admiring.
and then even the conversation of like that Rory has said plenty of times,
when you work in this industry, in the entertainment industry,
you can't escape working with abusers.
And I've grown up wanting to be in the entertainment industry.
And it's like, oh, in order for me to have my dream job,
I would have to sacrifice who I am as a person to succeed in this.
That is so depressing.
And like it makes me really angry and really, really sad.
Well, again, that's why I'm saying what I'm saying.
Because it, you know, I'm a little older than y'all.
So I was, I remember Puff differently than y'all do.
I saw him build what he has to what it is today.
And that was some honorable shit.
It's the one person that many of us looked at and was like, we believe that, oh, we can be moguls.
We can create businesses and we can have fun and we can be cool and, you know, we can do all of these things just because we saw.
saw him do it and he coming from where he come from, he's from the same neighborhood I'm from.
So it's like, oh, yeah, this can happen.
Like, I can make having fun a lifestyle and make a living off of being the person that brings
people together to have a good time.
And, you know, but now as you get older and you start to see these people that you look
up to and these things are revealed as a man now, no longer as a kid, as a man now,
I'm looking at another man who I looked up to and I was like, damn.
he's he's such a cool dude.
Like I aspire to be like that.
But this to come out now, it's like,
yo, is this true, bro?
And like I said, I believe it in the,
you know, the real reason why I believe these allegations
is because there's nobody close to him
that's coming out and saying that's absolutely not true.
Yeah.
Nobody has said that.
And she named other people that were on his team,
like by their job titles in that lawsuit.
Like, it's just like, I'm looking around like, wait,
nobody is saying that this isn't true.
Nobody is saying that these are lies and these are false accusations.
Like, no, I'm talking about no, I haven't seen anybody that works in close proximity with him
or any of his businesses come out and say that.
Actually, one person did speak up.
And that was the tweet that kind of like sealed it for me.
When Dawn from Dirty Money tweeted love and prayers to Cassie, he'll be fine peace.
I was like, all right, if Dawn is saying that.
but this is what I'm saying
but don't send me loving prayers
because
bitch if you knew
respectfully and I don't mean like that
but if you know like
I don't want to hear no loving prayer
shit I don't want to hear oh
maybe maybe she didn't know
of course she was around Puff and I'm
especially when Puff was dating Cassie
that was around dirty money time
she may have not seen any abuse
but
after reading the lawsuit
could be on Cassie's side and understand
I mean, she just worked with Puffin
the last project. So
I think there's a world where Dawn maybe
didn't know, but after reading it
was like, all right, yeah, I'm with...
That makes sense. Or you might have seen some shit
that look funny and then when it's
painted out like that. It's like, I was at that
party, that makes sense. Yeah, and I was going to say
to your point, you said we've all heard stuff.
And I know you've been around
longer and you've been like maybe
at, like, know a lot of people that do those things.
As someone that's relatively new to this shit
and had the opportunity to go to
one party just didn't work out. But I have a lot of friends and peers that are in LA that have done
a lot of his like, he calls him like the lockdowns and just like it's just like a drug fuck fest.
And it's just, it just gets ridiculous really fast. We all hear whether or not you're there or not.
We've all heard the stories that happen at those things. And you can infer like, you know,
he's the guy kind of leading the charge at all these things. We all of us know fucking people
have done those things and have been in positions that are like, what the hell is going on?
That's crazy.
Like, it's not, these aren't stretches.
Yeah, but no, but see, the reason why when you hear things like that, when I heard things like that,
I just, I just always feel like, yo, they just trying to tear another black man down.
So I don't give it that much credence at first.
But it's people that are his friends that are telling me these stories.
It's not like people that are like haters or like journalists looking to get a scoop.
It's like, yo, this is what he did.
He was wild and he did this.
Like, these are people he's cool with that go to his house regularly.
Okay.
I've definitely heard, like we talked about on Patreon,
I've definitely heard stories about Puff being into some wild shit.
No one has ever came to me and say Puff is into rape.
So like, yeah.
No, not rare.
So sometimes when I would hear those stories,
I would, I never like stopped to think
when I was hearing that stuff was like everything consensual.
I was just like, are Puff's having like fuck parties.
Because he's not the only celebrity that's doing that.
Yeah.
Celebrity is doing that.
Because most of like we have heard, again,
rumors of there being some type of foul stuff
Puff is done.
But it was never that far,
at least from what I had heard.
I just heard that he was in some wild shit.
One could think
shit could get a little dicey
and you're doing these fucking freaky fuckfests
locked in.
Something bad could possibly happen.
But I had never heard, like some girl was raped
at a Pupp.
I've just never heard that.
That's what I'm saying.
You can hear about wild parties
and people fucking...
Cool.
If it's consensual,
Yeah.
Yeah, and I want to...
That's not, you know what I mean?
I'm not going to be like, yo, what type of shit is that?
Like, okay, Puff has a big ass house.
He decided the motherfucker have some beautiful girls come over,
has some friends, and everybody fucked.
I mean, I'm not going to look at it like,
yo, damn, that's fucked up.
I'm like, that's some wild shit.
But it's not...
If it's consensual, if it's consensual,
then it's no foul there.
But now, when you look at these allegations
and these things that was in this civil suit
and the things that Cassie is saying and the legend,
it's like, whoa, like this is, this is sick shit going on.
Yeah.
That's the difference.
Yes, I've heard about Puff having wild parties and a bunch of girls naked and fucking and everybody.
Yeah, but if that's consensual, that just sounds like somewhere I wish I was at.
But now when you get to this civil suit and these things that are in that, it's like, wait, hold up, homie.
Oh, whoa.
Now we talk about abuse and rape and things like that.
No, no, no, no, no, no.
We the culture, we the culture,
the people that have championed you
and put you on this pedestal
as one of the kings of the culture
and one of the moguls,
we need to have a conversation.
We need to talk.
Because this ain't flawed.
This ain't, this ain't hip-hop.
It's actually, mm-hmm.
I ain't even going to go there.
I'm not going to go there.
It's not.
Abuse and rape is not.
No, no, no, no.
There's no room for that.
I don't get a fuck.
Who's doing it,
and who's trying to make it seem like
It's cool and who's trying to make it seem like it's all right.
It's not.
It's not cool, but it's not.
It's not hip-hop, but it's a part of hip-hop.
It's a very big part.
So that's the problem.
So let's address that.
That's what I'm saying.
Let's stop avoiding the elephant in the room.
Let's address it.
So now the culture is in a better place and can move forward and get rid of the bullshit
that consumes the culture at times.
Yeah.
And get rid of the nasty shit that consumes the culture at times.
It's okay.
Like, niggas don't want to have a conversation about somebody that they always have a conversation
about? When that love album dropped me and Rory was in here like, yo, God damn.
Same. I mean, it's still a great album.
I almost listened to it today on accident. I was so pissed off.
You understand? I'm saying? So we can talk about that.
Great album. We can talk about, yo, you know, puff New Year's party. We can talk about all of these
things where it's okay to talk about. But the things that's dark and unacceptable and the things
that's nasty we don't address, listen, I understand, man. I know that I know that I know that
I'm an outcast because there's certain things that I'm just going to always stand on.
I get that.
I'm not trying to be accepting in all these other rooms.
I'm not trying to be accepted by all these other people.
I sleep comfortably at night knowing I never did no sucker shit to nobody.
I never did no fucked up shit to no female.
And that's how I lay down at night.
Some people can't say that.
But I'm just saying as a culture, let's address the elephant in the room and let's move forward.
Yeah.
And I mean, even what we were discussing on Patreon of the,
culture and how forgiving or pro-abuser it is,
R. Kelly might be the only one that, like, most people have decided we shouldn't listen to
his music anymore.
And so it's a documentary comes out.
And look how far it had to go.
It had, it was 30 years of evidence.
And then it finally took a four part doc just a few years ago.
Yeah.
For all of us, myself included, I'm not trying to be holier than now, to go, all right,
I can't.
I can't listen to Rkelly.
This is fuck.
I can't separate the artist and the lifestyle.
I just, I can't.
No.
So that's what it takes to get the entire music community to agree.
Mm-hmm.
I don't see that happening with this.
It's not going to.
You don't see a ditty doc coming?
No.
You can make a doc.
Then shit's not going to happen.
I mean, if more allegations come out, which I'll speak for myself, I think more will.
When there's one, there's usually many.
Eventually, there could be something for sure.
And maybe it does get to a point where all of us, everybody, the way we do with Arkelly, is like, all we can't.
But Arkelly was different than Diddy.
Arkelly was for like lack of, you know.
I'm not comparing.
I'm just saying, not in offenses.
I mean, in terms of influence in the culture, Arkelly was just, I mean this respectfully,
just an artist.
Ditty is far more than an artist.
Sure.
He has, he's a fucking businessman.
He's got a successful content companies.
Like, he's way more ingratiated in this than Arkelly.
was. You could mute R. Kelly. It's one of four billionaires in. Exactly. Diddy not only does the
music, but he has all these content hubs. Like there's way more to his umbrella than there is for
R. Kelly. Yeah. Because people will say, oh yeah, I'll stop listening to Dittie's music, but they're not
going to stop watching. Go on YouTube. They're not going to stop watching drink champs.
And then, and then it gets even crazier because the few people that do listen to R. Kelly,
their points usually like, oh, they doesn't even own his.
publishing so it's not like I'm putting money
in R. Kelly's pocket. That's not the point.
Puffones, a lot of people's publishing. So if you are
on that ground, no more Mary,
no more locks, no more big,
no more, like, I see
what Julian's saying.
R. Kelly was just, we're muting R. Kelly.
You mute Ditty, that is
30 years of
most of...
Hip hop.
Like most of it.
We're not listening to Big. He's tied
to almost every relevant
artist, which is why I said we need, as the culture, we need to talk.
Yes, it's shit that needs to be addressed.
It's been, it's too much years of, you know, avoiding shit.
Even if you know, not to bring other people's situations and shit into it, but if we're
talking about, you know, abuse and trauma and allegations, Russell Simmons, another one
that we talked about during the pandemic, the documentary came out about him, women alleged
and rape and things like that,
another mogul that we looked up to and praised
for everything that they've done for the culture,
we need to talk to Russell.
We need to, like, yo, let's listen.
We sit around and we create all these other shows
and platforms, all these talk shows.
Everybody want to talk.
Everybody want to have a show.
But nobody want to address the real shit.
Where did he run off to?
Bolly.
Yeah.
You understand what I'm saying?
Like, we all got, everybody got these platforms
and these media outlets and all of these things,
but nobody wants to address.
the real shit.
Yes, we understand you are who you are
and you have all this power and its success.
But there are some allegations tied to your name
that we as the culture would like to address
and hear from you so that we can move forward
and address the elephant in the room.
Because enough is enough.
Let's stop trying to avoid it and sidestep it
and act like we didn't hear that
or see that documentary or hear these people
allege that they were raped.
Let's stop doing that.
Let's address it.
Yo, fam.
We need to talk.
Don't don't.
We ain't going to sidestep that.
But that's when you stand on business.
And see, and that's another thing.
People don't like to make people uncomfortable, right?
Especially when you have allegations on your name like this.
So when these people disappear and they go to wherever they go for a few months and da-da-da-da.
You still see the documentaries.
You still have allegations.
Then when these people come back and pop up, everybody sits down and nobody wants to talk.
It's like, yo, like, whole, y'all just going to just forget about all of this shit that
happened or was said? Time heals all.
But does it? But does it? Tends to in these
cases, yeah, once the news cycle spins
the block a few times and other shit happens,
we go to war. So you know what I mean? Like terrorist shit
pops off and then everything is quiet. How do you come back six
months later? It's quiet. It's quiet. You can go out
public, chilling. Not for the people involved.
Russell let time go, went to Bali. Then he started doing little IG
videos here and there. Put out that one that was defending
all the older pioneers of hip hop in their financial situation or
whatever. I saw everyone in the music industry under his comments saying,
thank you, Rush. And granted, I agree what Russ was saying about the pioneers of hip hop.
But everybody, like, everybody in hip-hop was under that IG comment section. I was like,
yeah, like, that shit is crazy. Do we just forget?
And then, but see, but then, Roe, you see what I'm saying? And then you wonder why, you know,
my family being who they are and what they've done in this game, you wonder why I still
distanced myself from industry shit. I don't go to parties.
I don't hang around a bunch of rappers and all the,
I don't do that because just 50.
50 signs.
Or just 50.
Yeah.
Who's been standing on business a long time.
That is very true.
But say what you want about 50, but say what you want.
He's staying on business.
And he ain't because he has money.
He has power.
And 50 is from that place where he ain't scared of not the industry.
50 survived.
He survived real life shit.
You know what I'm saying?
So I just think it's just time to address these elephants, man.
It's just time to stop.
acting like we didn't see that, we didn't hear that, you know, because then it's going to happen
to somebody that you're directly, you know, related to or, and then that's when it's going
to hit you and you'd be like, damn. So let's just stop the bullshit. Stop acting like y'all don't
know what's going on. Y'all don't see what's happening. And everybody got these fucking
platforms and want to sit down and talk about everything else under the moon. Talk about the real
shit. But like I said, people are scared to talk about the real shit because they should got to come
out too. A lot of people got a lot of shit in their closet. So you could talk different when
you ain't got no skeletons hanging up and you ain't got no sick shit going on. You could talk
very freely. But when you got some shit, you're like, I don't know if I'm going to be the one
to address that because they might find out about my little rendezvous and I, let me.
It's twofold. It's that and they want to protect their relationship with the person
that's being accused. Oh, yeah, for sure. And a lot of these people, let's just be real. A lot of
people do not give a fuck. They do not care about abuse. They don't care. They don't care. They don't
They don't care about the rape.
They don't give a fuck.
What they care about is dick riding so that they can get to the top and networking and doing
whatever they have to do.
That's why they don't stand on business.
The only business they stand on is trying to get next to a nigger with money or influence
because they're not built like that to build it themselves.
They don't give a fuck about women being raped.
They don't give a fuck about women being hit.
That's their business.
That's their business.
But they know they can't come out and say that because they would get killed.
So what do they do?
They're silent.
Wait for everything to die down.
And then they write back fucking sucking dick to get an invite to a party.
And next week you'll kill.
somebody that's way lower on the total.
Yeah, you'll have a lot to say.
You'll have, yeah, yeah, yeah.
You'll address that.
Drunk drive, hit someone and then you'll kill them forever about that.
Yeah.
I've already accepted that I'm only going to reach a certain height and a certain level because I'm just never parting with morals and integrity.
I'm not doing it. You know what I'm saying? So I already know the ceiling for me, very low. And that's okay, though. Like I live comfortable. I do what I want to do. You know, I don't, I don't have any like areas where I
I feel like, you know, I'm lacking.
It's like everything is, I'm fine.
I'm blessed.
I'm happy.
I'm grateful.
But, you know, it's just time, man.
It's so much shit in this culture that we celebrate.
And there's a lot of shit that we turn the blind eye to and act like we don't see happening
and we don't hear what's happening.
And that shit is stupid.
It's enough is enough.
It's time to get to it.
Address that shit so we can get all the bullshit out of the culture.
For sure.
And one thing, sorry.
One thing I didn't address one more thing.
One thing y'all didn't address on the Patreon that I wanted to address that a lot of people
were saying that just she's, why.
why would you settle if this person did this to you? Why would you settle? Cassie is a victim and she did
more than what she was obligated to do by even releasing this lawsuit. She did y'all a favor.
She let y'all know that there was even a villain to be to hate. She let y'all know that there was
someone to hate. She is not obligated to go through a fucking, a trial. I probably would have
traumatized, re-traumatized her, made her feel so small, made her doubt herself while people
are sitting up there trying to blame things on her and flip it and make it look like she was
guilty or oh well why did you stay or well why did you do this or why did you do that she didn't
own nobody's shit she did y'all favor by even coming out with that fucking lawsuit i hope she takes
her money and lives her best life but because somebody settles on something like that when the person
wouldn't go to jail anyway they were just going to have to pay money it was he was never in at risk
of going to jail for this she's she did what she needed to do i know her team definitely
Her team definitely knew that this was going to be settled out.
Yeah.
They knew it quick.
And I thought we talked about that on Patreon,
but now I remember we talked about it off mic.
What else was Cassie supposed to do?
Yeah.
This is how the system is set up.
To Demeris's point,
going the criminal route, not happening.
No.
Where's the rape kid?
It just wouldn't work.
The only other option besides years of fucking self-healing is this is the only way to get that person.
is their pockets.
And to get the information out there,
what's she going to do with?
Instagram post, that's not going to be taken seriously.
She went the only route you possibly could go.
What is the problem with what Cassie did?
Yeah, there's no problem with that.
Please tell me what else she should have done.
People are stupid.
Done a Gail interview and then just left.
People are stupid and uninformed and they're like,
oh, she's just after money.
It's not even after.
Demarish is like what you said.
People just don't care.
And they also don't care.
But she's also a victim of this whole.
system, this whole capitalist system.
The only way to get somebody
is their money. The only solution that's been created for people
like Cassie is a settlement.
Yes. Because the system survives on
money being transferred to let people
know, yo, all right, my bad, we've kind of
fucked up here. Here's a Band-Aid.
I hope this is enough to cover your trauma.
And then hopefully,
I'm sure they said you can never speak on it again.
Of course.
How many? Of course.
Of course. So that's the system that has been built.
That has been existing across the board. It's not
just in entertainment. This is enough money
to keep you quiet. Sorry for everything we did.
And even the selfish
thinking
that I saw, and I don't want to
attack women on this one, but
women saying
Cassie had to sign an NDA, got the settlement,
now she can't speak about it.
You guys expect Cassie to be
the poster child for rape and go on a
fucking interview campaign and just talk to everyone
and be the face of it?
After something like that happens to you know,
sometimes you just want the information out there
so people know what this individual did
And then you want your fucking privacy.
Why does Cassie have to be the person that doesn't settle and goes and tells everyone on a campaign?
Women were really expecting her to do that.
Yeah, but you're talking about people that are just online, just typing.
And you can't address that.
People are just, they don't care.
They don't care.
That's just the bottom line.
I'm just, I'm more so speaking to us as a culture.
What do we have to do as a culture to fucking change these behavior and these things
and prevent these things from continuing to happen.
We know that they've been happening for years.
We've had a bunch of people with allegations.
How do we stop it?
How do we address it and make sure that women in our coach are protected
and that this doesn't continue to happen?
That, to me, is the bottom line.
Something that was actually positive this past week while we're in London.
Your SDD results?
Excuse me?
Sorry.
I don't have a sexually transmitted disease if that's what you were trying to imply.
I think that's what he was in mind.
I don't have a sexually transmitted disease.
Good for you.
Like every time we're in London, Drake dropped.
Thanks.
There's something to talk about there.
You think Drake times our London show?
Absolutely.
No, it's not that he times it.
Okay, so let's go through it.
When we were in Mexico, he dropped her loss.
No, he dropped the...
No, honestly, never mind.
I'm sorry.
When we were in London last year, it was her loss.
This year, it was...
Starry hours three.
Toronto was for all the dogs.
Yeah.
But that was the week before
because then people said we were pandering.
Nah, fuck that.
They came out.
the fourth.
No, it came out the week before.
It came out the week before, Julian.
People were killing me because they said I was saying
the album was good because I was scared.
I couldn't get into Toronto.
Oh, yeah, that was whack.
Well, it was close enough.
But either way, every time we were international,
Drake dropped something.
Yeah.
Where did we want to start?
Because I'm just going to sound like I'm dick riding
the entire time.
I just want to make that clear.
Can't wait.
This is fucking incredible.
You got on.
You got good sneakers to dick ride.
Hey, yo.
Hey, yo.
I'm just saying.
He said he's about the dick ride the whole time.
We know, but like.
He said he's going to dick ride the whole time.
I didn't say, like, he said that.
I'm just looking at the sneakers he has on.
Like, okay.
Yeah, I'd be able to.
If a girl wardos to my house, I knew what time of it is.
They go, she ready.
She keeps him on in time?
Oh, my God.
I'm sitting over this little island in the kitchen real quick.
Well, you guys all pissed Drake off.
After your critiques for the dogs, he clearly heard that.
Everyone wanted more rap, and he came back with a fucking pure rap EP.
Thank you.
With Alchemist, uh, conductor.
pull up some of the other producers.
Are we going to say EP?
Is this not, I know he's marketed as the scary ours.
It's a deluxe.
It's a deluxe.
It's put out as the box.
Yeah, I know.
But it's a, it basically said, it goes six more.
Which is cool.
Y'all, y'all weren't feeling me on the first one.
Yeah, it goes six more.
Like, damn, he had more in the studio.
Yeah, yeah.
He got six more.
Now, he said he wrote all this, like, right after y'all start talking shit.
He said, he said, no, well, Noel,
asked him, I thought you quit.
He said, no, well, I got to quit again.
I got to quit again.
Let me just say this right now.
Drake rap's better than all you, niggas.
I'm going to just say it.
He was rapping at a very high talent in this entire thing.
He raps better than all of y'all.
He's a better artist than all he are.
It just is what it is.
Y'all can say Drake is corny.
Y'all can say y'all don't like Drake.
Y'all can say all the things y'all want to say about Drake.
The man's talent is undeniable.
He's giving us a dance album.
He's giving us rap albums.
He's giving us deluxeeseses in the last 18 months.
18 months, a dance album.
I guess we could call her loss more of a trap album to some degree.
That's an album.
It was a collab album.
We have EPs getting nominated.
More of a trap sound, you would say.
So a dance album, trap album,
R&B album, and a rap EP in less than 18 months.
Sick.
That's why.
That's fucking nuts.
Yeah.
So say what you will out, Drake.
But come on.
That's insane.
That shows some range.
Just say it, man.
He's, he's...
I mean, I still have my...
He's the best of what he does.
My critiques.
Say it, man.
About for the dogs, but...
Dammarous.
I mean,
he probably has the most diverse
fan base, I'm not saying like skin color,
but like the type of music people like
because he does do R&B rap and
pop, he's checked every
box. Like, if you have an
issue with Drake's R&B
stuff for the dogs, well, here you have a rap
album here. And if you don't really like his rap shit,
you got a dance album. You got a 21 Savage
if you're young and you don't like
the old shit, you have 21 Savage here.
Bean. Yeah. I can't name another
artist that can check every single box
with a fan base. His work ethic, his
output is just unmatched.
his talent level, I think, is unmasked.
Now, are the other rappers that rap better than tricks?
Sure.
But we're just talking about in totality of being a rapper and artist.
He's a head and above everybody else.
I'm so happy he didn't let those tummy aches get the best of him.
I'm so happy you went back in the studio.
Yeah.
This is great.
More dick riding.
If we're considering this at EP or a project, this is in the conversation of rap.
album of the year? We're calling
EP's albums now. Yeah, well, that's
true. So if this is
six records, I don't know if
I'm never, Carisha and the Grammys,
I'll never let it go. Never.
Is this not
arguably the best rap
album this year? Well, now the EP's
our albums now. Six
records? Obviously, so yeah. I'm
with you on that. I think
Daytona is
a damn near a classic. That's seven records.
And that wasn't a push of Drake thing.
I'm just trying to think of shorter albums.
Six records, yeah, this is in the conversation.
For sure.
So it's labeled as for all the dogs,
Scary Hours Edition on, like, Apple Music and shit.
So basically a deluxe.
But that's just to bring streams.
Yeah.
If this was a different era, Drake would have just released
Scary Hours 3 is his own.
Would we put it in the top?
This is called waterfalling.
Because it's the same way why people now put out deluxe.
It's just to bring more stuff back to your...
So if you waterfall to older music,
it just re-triggers that in the algorithm.
So then it's just going to get...
So he's on pace to do 100.
10 again for this album.
Crazy.
Whereas last week, I don't know what the numbers were, but it's obviously going to be
like a significant jump, but it won't count as just streams for scary hours.
It'll count for all the dogs.
It's a good move.
Real quick.
Can we, do we ever figure out what Chris Brown did his first week?
Oh my God.
That's what I was just going to say, fam.
Maul.
Guess.
Guess. Guess how much he did.
Yes.
Idiot, man.
Guess.
I'm scared.
Guess.
I know the number.
60?
Lower.
Lower.
Yeah.
Yeah, Mr. 110.
That was so crazy.
Lower.
I said 90.
Don't do that.
Oh, that's still crazy.
40?
44.
Yeah, 44.
Wow.
Are you surprised?
He didn't have big singles.
Yes, I'm surprised.
Different air.
I'm not.
It's a different time.
Too much bail, but I don't give a fuck what time it is.
That's still Chris Brown time.
Still Chris Brown.
Like, I would expect him to do more than 44,000.
He said that they should wish for more streams at 1111.
That's crazy.
Can't believe y'all said that?
That's fucked up.
Twitter fucked up.
It's also funny because, like, I guess for Chris, it's low, but 44 is not bad.
It's not bad.
It's not bad.
But for Chris, yeah, we're talking, yeah.
Julian, can you give your conspiracy theory?
Because if I give it, it's going to sound really narcissistic.
And it is your theory, and I'd rather you present it than Mallor-I because it would look like some narcissistic.
Go, Julian.
He has a conspiracy?
Yeah.
About the first record on the...
Red button.
Oh, okay.
Mm-hmm.
which, you know, if you say that a little differently,
it could be a double entendre.
I texted Rory.
I woke up to listen to it at, what was it, 6 a.m. our time.
Yeah, you set your alarm again.
Wait, you woke up to listen to this?
I was up.
I was ahead of him.
No, the time difference.
I was on shit sleep the whole trip.
So I happened to be up.
You just happened to be like a half hour after it.
I was up.
Okay, got you.
I was up.
One minute after it.
You set your alarm?
No, I was up.
Okay.
So I connected to my, I brought the speaker on the road.
And as soon as I hit play, the first lines of this whole thing, he says,
uh, my drive is dedicated.
Your drive is designated.
Uh, niggas got you to the spot.
And then you separated reasons for it speculated.
We all know how it escalated.
Mm.
I said to Rory.
You forgot really said a grade 11 educated.
He wasn't done.
Sure.
I mean, you could read this whole thing.
I think it's all ties in.
But I said to Rory is this is, does this,
Does this not, we know, we can say,
Joe is the one that kind of put the battery
in his back to do this whole fucking thing.
They had a back and forth about his criticism.
Yeah.
That was specifically,
it was the biggest thing on the timeline
the day the album dropped.
It wasn't even about the music.
It was about them.
I think, and this is not a conspiracy.
This whole thing is riddled with
subs at him, some more direct than others.
But I think he came out the gate with one
that I think involves both of you.
And I think in particular, the line
where he says, reason, what do you say,
when you guys separated,
guy you did this spot.
So he's saying you,
you two would be the niggas.
You guys do the spot.
Him too.
Him too.
Yeah.
To Drake put him in the mix.
Ginger's count.
And then he said in that
I'm part of white America
that thinks Drake is threatening.
Get out with some bullshit.
Who thinks Drake is threatening?
Somebody tweeted.
Somebody tweeted say,
why he lying on white America?
That's sick.
Like you were saying, Julian.
So,
no, I mean, that was my theory.
And I wanted,
I spoke to Rory about it.
He said he can see a,
connection if you really look into it, but Maul, I didn't have the chance to ask you
because you just read these lines, just those four really quickly again.
I get it. I'm not. I can see it. My ego is not there. I don't think. Neither was mine because
I listened to it. Drick respond. And I didn't catch it. Then Julian sent. I was like, oh,
I mean, I guess you can make the connection. Yeah. No, I can see how somebody can make the connection.
I'm not making it, but I can see how somebody like how you said it just now. I'm like, okay.
you said it the other night of the show
I was like okay
me I didn't hear that bar and be like
oh he's taught like I just my ego doesn't go to it
but I will ask him
and I came out the gate saying no to Jillian
and then as the day went by and I kept
time out
what time out we don't we're not just let him get off
I mean I will ask him
what's wrong yeah ask him
I'm sorry they have a relationship
I can't ask him if that well you can't
what that bar was about that would be funny though
that was a little drizzled yeah you was talking about me
that would be a sick question
no that's not how I would
texting the boy is that bar about me is nuts
yeah I think I would phrase it like that
yeah screenshot it
yeah
I would never phrase it
should I annotate this for you Drizzy
no I would never phrase that like that
but I would you ask
yeah how would you ask
yeah how would you ask
I would just bring up that specific bar
and be like
like question my way
what was that about
what was that about
yeah that's a good question
generalize it
like who was that about
what was that about
and he sends you eye emoji
because people have conspiracies
and I'm just trying to
like I'm coming straight to
Julian to the author
I'm coming straight to the author
Yeah
People have sources
People have conspiracies about this latest
This latest bestseller that you dropped
It is a New York Times
Yeah this is a New York Times bestseller
So I'm going to ask the author about
A certain you know
The Boy installation in his soliloquy here
As the day went and I was listening to this project
The entire day it came out
I didn't believe Julian
but then I started to analyze it
and I was like, what could that bar mean?
Like, that's where I started to believe Julian a little bit.
Like, clearly because of the background
of why this project probably did come out
and who he was shooting at most of this record,
I can't see where that,
what that bar could mean besides that.
It's really these two lines.
I just, I'm with more,
my ego is not that crazy
that I thought that the first few times I heard it.
It had to be told to me.
I was like, oh yeah, I guess I could see that.
I fucking, I just, I just,
y'all are skipping over to the line that I really want to ask him about.
Taylor Swift,
the only nigger that I ever rated.
I love it.
I need to talk about that.
I want to have a real conversation with him about that.
I'm like,
yo, where he was at in life where you came up with that.
Love it.
Taylor Swift, the only nigger that I ever rated?
Yeah.
The line hit way better.
Way better.
It sounds really good.
It was funny.
Oh, shit.
No, he got, listen, he was on this shit blacking the whole time.
He was getting his shit off.
This was very personal.
This was very,
This was a lot of pinned up aggression and things that he probably wanted to say and get out.
And I think that he did a great job.
That, to me, this is hard.
I would like to hear a lot of other rappers how they used to take like covers and like,
because that beat is just such an open beat and pockets everywhere.
You can switch flows.
But he did, Drake fucking, he killed that.
To me, that's probably the best song on the joint.
So Red Button, that's your favorite?
As far as just rapping, yeah, for sure.
He got off on the joint with Cole, too, though.
Evil Ways.
Evil Ways is great.
Yeah, he got off.
He got off on that.
I think he got his lick back for, um.
And they had just dropped the music video.
The team on the shoe fits is cool.
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
But he did his thing.
Stories about my brother's dope.
Every song on here is dope.
Yeah.
But it's just stories about my brother is like,
is me and Rory laugh because he was like,
it's called stories about my brother,
but it's really not about your brother at all.
Like every time.
About yourself.
Yeah.
But let's talk about my brother though.
Like he can get back to that,
but he gets off of his brother just on a rant.
But then he brings it back.
Like so I mean he did a great job of just like showing people that he can still rap at a high level
People want him to rap like the old drake and he's saying he don't know how to do that no more
I thought that that was a clever way to address that
This is clearly just something where he just decided to address a lot of shit that was being said that was out there
And he just found a great way to do it and still let it parlay into the album that he just put out as well
What would you consider the old drake because he's to me this sounds like the old Drake
especially you broke my heart
this who broke my heart
yeah like this
this feels like
if you're reading this
and nothing was the same time
as far as his rapping ability
at that time
yeah yeah this more so
than anything recently
he's brought out
yeah so when he said that
I was like I don't know me
you are rapping like the old Drake to me
this is exactly what I wanted
you mentioned you had an issue
not an issue but you weren't too happy
with the shot at Pusja on this one
yeah
I wasn't upset like he's not allowed to
Push-a-Pee.
I thought for the ability Drake was wrapping on this
and Drake's talent level,
I felt it was a very lazy shot.
Empty clips.
That was my only...
Yeah, it was weak as fuck to me.
It just was unnecessary.
Like, one, I don't think push is broke,
but I guess compared to Drake.
Drake can call him broke.
Yeah.
Drake can call all of us broke.
I certainly can't.
I just felt lazy.
I just feel like...
It was lazy.
He was going crazy on this project.
It didn't match with the caliber
of rapping that he was doing
compared to the shot he took at push.
It felt lazy.
Like that was a shot I could see
that would be on for all the dogs.
Yeah.
On this shit,
I thought he would have gotten to a better.
He needs to give that up already.
That's just like,
that's not the kind of person you have.
I know, but like, God.
He's been very honest about how petty
is and how much he holds on to things.
Apparently,
I mean, I think we're just going to hear about it for ever.
I'm curious, though, if push,
because that's like, what,
three or four shots?
with no response.
Drake's still been going for a minute.
I can't wait to push new album.
Same.
The single or clips?
Because weren't they doing one together?
Yeah, that's true.
Yeah.
Either one.
I think he's going to shoot
everybody on that clips album.
I just want Drake to stop addressing it.
Same.
I mean, I don't care.
Only because it's like...
At least not like this.
When it was lit, when it was on,
that's when we were supposed to get everything.
Like, that's when they were supposed to...
You know what I mean?
Like, for whatever reason, you know,
It was brought to a halt, stopped, throwing snow bones.
Yeah, so now I'm just kind of over it.
It's just like...
Call him push a Tia, statistic is crazy.
That's fucking nuts.
Wow, man.
But, yeah, overall, I'll just continue talking about how much I love this project,
so I'll save everyone at the time.
I just feel like no one can complain now.
All the complaints that we had, they were fulfilled here.
But the complaints were stupid because people who don't understand,
Drake can't just give you.
He's bigger than just rap.
Of course.
He has so many different audiences,
different, you know, genres and places and people that he could touch and make music for.
Like, he can't just give you just pure rap.
Like, that would be asking him to just do something.
He can still rap, but like we said, he gave us a dance album,
gave us trap with 21 Savage.
He gave us for all the dogs.
He gave us, you know, scary hours three.
Like, it's like, yo, bro, he's giving us.
He's giving us a little bit of everything.
How are you complaining about it?
Well, I complain with for the dogs
was there wasn't much balance.
It did feel straight,
almost all R&B for a majority
of that project.
And, you know,
if he put in some of these records in there,
I think there would have been a better balance.
But I take back all my complaints now
because I got a project.
This is the type of shit I personally would want.
So no complaints for me.
Everyone enjoy for the dogs.
If you like it, if you don't, don't.
We have this now.
Yeah.
Only complaint.
Wasn't a lot of flute.
on it.
It lacked a lot of flute.
The only flute that was available was
a skin flute.
There was only one flute available at the time,
and we know who had that.
It was rented out.
Yeah.
Andre 3,000 dropped the new blue sun.
His first album in how many years?
20 maybe?
20 years, something like that.
Yeah.
Yeah, Love Below was 2002, 2003.
Something like that.
Jesus.
So this was Andre 3000's come back
to music and but he said in a couple of interviews that he's played the flute on some major
artists album that he went under a different name.
Did he really do Mask Off?
If I find out he did Mask Off.
No, but that's allegedly, yeah.
Oh, he did?
Yeah.
Metro said at a, at a, at a, at a some of the event he was DJing that he's, oh, by the way,
like, he did Masked off.
Flute is fucking fire.
And it makes sense too, though, because Future was part of the dungeon family when he was a kid.
So they have a relationship.
And obviously, three sacks is given Future, what, like two verses?
So there's a relationship there
But I'll be honest with you
I put this on to go to sleep one night in London
And it worked and I don't mean that as an insult
But I haven't gotten through it
Because I did fall asleep and it was great
Same
This sounds like when you go to a really nice spa
Yeah
And you're like in that waiting room
Before they come and bring you in
It's like this feels like that
Would it give you like a piece of baklava
A piece of baklava?
He's too rich bro
He's too rich bro
He's too rich.
No I mean baccala is pretty like
It's not a rich thing
But at the just at the
Action Bronson spa.
There you go.
Bam Bam Bam.
Bees a baklava.
Yeah, they give you a little bacclovar.
You have, you know, water and things like that.
I got the ched in the car.
And you just sit there and it's just water sounds and things like that.
That's what this is.
This is great, like, spa music.
They said the, uh, the hurts that this was mixed at is the, uh, optimal, um, sound for, like,
to evoke happiness.
It's supposed to whatever the, the, in peace.
In peace.
It's a, yeah, it's supposed to be a peaceful happy.
It's a healing energy.
I get to hear it on my Airpop pros.
Another thing I can say,
we can't complain.
He was extremely honest with us.
He said, I didn't want to get anyone disappointed.
I'm just playing the fucking flute for 87 minutes.
And that's what we got.
And I'm sure people will find
some place in their life where this can work.
How do you think people would have reacted
if they didn't know it was an all-flu album, though?
I would have came in here.
He just came out and put this out?
Yeah.
No, he couldn't do that.
I would have been very caronyy on this podcast if
we heard that Three Stacks is putting out an album
and it dropped and it was
all this. Yes, I would be fucking pissed.
Isn't the first track like 17 minutes?
No, it's like 12. It's like 13.
I'd have been to 17.
But no, he was honest.
Yeah. He warned us. So what do you want?
I think it's hilarious.
Was it pitchfork?
Yeah.
Pitchfork has it the genre of rap experimental.
That's just stupid.
And gave it an 8.3.
That's so racist.
Precisely.
I wasn't mad at their 83 rating until I saw genre rap.
Because I'm like, how are you rating it, though?
Yeah.
Like this could be an 83 in the flute world. I don't know.
Yeah.
I'm not heavy in the flute algorithm.
This may be the shit.
Yeah, this may be the shit over there.
I don't know.
So when I saw 8-3, I was like, well, this is not my world.
Yeah.
Whatever.
Then I saw it was rap.
I was like, all right, I need to read this fucking review.
Yeah, no, this is, that was, this is absolutely ridiculous.
This is not rap.
He's not, just not a single rap on this project.
This is healing the hose music.
You know how they have scaring the hose music?
This is healing the hose music.
Yeah, but hos ain't got a little.
Hose be saying they want to get healed and they'll listen to this album and then late on that night,
do some shit to get retramatizing.
Oh, no.
Oh my God.
Oh my God.
I looked up the author of the review.
Sadie is...
He looks like a flute and...
Her name, I think.
And I think that there's a little...
That's a guy.
It's not her.
Sadie.
We don't know.
No.
Formerly known is Marty.
So it looks like we're going...
Is she her pronouns?
Marty is not...
Is it a guy's name too, isn't it?
They transition.
Her pronouns are right there.
She her.
So we'll call her she.
Marty transitioned to Sadie.
And Sadie thinks that this is a rap album.
I wonder what
Marty.
Oh, Sadie, your hormones all over the place.
You don't know what the fuck you're listening to.
Okay, would that?
Cut this out?
No.
You don't know.
That I want to keep that.
Leave that.
That's fucking funny.
Like, you don't know what the fuck.
I mean, congrats on transitioning to whatever you want to do.
I don't care about your sex.
Right.
But you're not going to tell me that this is a rap album, Sadie.
Marty did take care of her flute.
So, call her Sadie.
Yeah.
Well, definitely knows the things about flutes.
Yeah.
But, I mean.
How does that even work?
Rap?
This isn't rap.
I'm sorry, Sadie, Marty.
Just call her Sadie.
Okay, Sadie FKA. Marty.
Can I say that?
Maybe.
I mean, that is what she has.
She has that in her.
That is her in her LinkedIn.
So I'm not going to make Mall not say that.
It's Shelly FK.A.
Drum.
It's Sadie, FK.A. Marty.
Sure.
But Drum didn't.
He just transfers his name.
No, but he's back to Drum.
His real name is Shelley.
Okay.
So Shelley FK.A.
Dram.
Let's leave our friend out of this.
Anyways, pitchfork.
Yeah.
Just going to drive it back here.
Let's just get to fuck out of her.
Eve.
From Dreamville,
Kay Cole's manager
and President Dreamville,
tweeted...
Family.
Definitely family.
tweeted that he
sees the Grammys
nominating this for
rap album of the year in 2025
and I'm with him.
I'm with him,
I favored the tweet.
I'm with him,
but that's going to be so disrespectful.
Yeah, that's crazy.
That's so disrespectful.
You mad about these EPs and shit.
Okay.
Let me...
I haven't been shooting
Grammys any bail lately,
but it's under wrap.
If you go on Apple Music, Spotify,
three stacks did put it under wrap.
as much as we want to kill Sadie and everyone else,
Three Stacks did put this under the rap genre.
I thought it was alternative.
Yeah, I did.
Then it was changed because at one point it was rap.
This is not rap, bro.
Of course it's not.
This is this, like, come on.
And I don't even know what Three Stacks did that.
I feel like Sony just never changed his genre on his artist page.
But this is, this is, this is, I had my, you know, apprehensions about this.
I was like, damn, come on.
Oh, it is alternative now.
one point it did say rap. They must have just changed it. Well, good. They got it right. It's alternative.
But there's a place for this. Now that we got this, this, this album, there's a place for this.
Where? Like I said, if you, if you're like into yoga, things like that, this could be something that you put
on, like, they got trap yoga. You know what I'm saying? But I'm just saying, just like, it's Andre
2000. So you got to kind of like, this is the Andreth 2000 flute album. Like, you know, they're going to try
it in like, okay, cool. Let's, let's play some three stacks. If we're going to have this type of music in this
environment, let's play three stacks. If I'd say to you
Ma'am, I'm in the move for some three stacks,
and then I put on 12 minutes to the loop.
Well, it depends on what we're doing.
If we're, like, doing yoga and you should like that,
you put this on, I'm not mad.
I mean, y'all going to be doing yoga? You could do your morning
squats to this. Absolutely.
Yeah, that's what I said. This is a good
stretch yoga type of background music.
You said no rap before what time again?
No rap before noon. Okay. I'm on that wave too, though.
I get it. I can't hit no, I don't want to hit no rap before
noon. I'm sorry. Maybe it's me
getting old. I don't want to hear that shit before 12 o'clock.
Who's going to be, two questions. Who's going to be the first
rapper to freestyle over these?
And who's going to be the first producer
to do awful samples from it?
See, you put awful.
Name names. Yeah, I don't want to say off.
Okay, fine, fine, fine, fine.
Who's going to...
No, Berg's not going to...
No, I can't see Perg's sampling this.
No. I can see him sampling
Hey, Yah.
Yeah.
That's big.
That's big.
I can see him and Tink doing a Hey Ya remix.
but oh wait no they're not together anymore yeah no never mind
because i don't want bird to get mad of me and i really do like and love burg a lot i'm sorry for
everything that i've done in the past i hope you accept my apology that's that's very mature of you
yeah i said that before no no but that's no we just made you know and he commented when my album
came out on my uh IG but we still haven't spoken what he's gonna sample that too
i would love that fuck it burgs like what fucking six trillion streams at this point
i'd love some some pub on that sample away berg please
it's annoying but but do my deluxe what do you guys think this does first week i don't
3,000 i don't know man it's not that's that's rude the songs are 12 it's not made for
stream i understand that but there's still an expectation listen we know as an expectation
there isn't the culture there's no expectation you do this is this is this is listen we not
as shirley no on j 300 3 000 is uh he's a art he lives this that's art he lives this music
thing. I think that this was just a passionate thing. He wanted to get out and put into the world.
I don't think he doesn't care about, this is a guy that walks around everywhere and just plays
a flute. He doesn't care about streams, numbers. He's not, that's not what he's into. He didn't
do that for this. This was something that he wanted to just put out into the universe and to the world.
And I think that in a couple years, we may appreciate this more than we do right now is all I'm
to say. That's it. Yeah. I'm excited for something. Because you told about somebody that's really
intelligent and really talented. So you got to kind of trust those people sometimes. You may not
understand the vision. You may not get it, but you got to trust that this person is
intelligent and talented enough to know what they're doing. So that's what it is for me,
Andre, 2000. It sounds like you're saying you're glad he got it out of the system. How about it?
Now get back to the goddamn bars, 2000. God damn it. We're going to play the album, right?
I'm going to roll up smoke to it. I'm going to do some yoga to it. But give us some bars,
man. Let's just hear. And he did say something interesting in an interview. He was like,
he just doesn't know what to rap about at his age. He was,
like I just don't know what I would be rapping about.
And I respect that.
Like, I understand what he's saying.
It's kind of like, I don't, I'm not, I'm not on the scene.
I'm not in the mix.
I'm not into those things anymore.
So it's like the things that I might want to rap about, y'all might not want to hear.
But then it's like, but we got some incredible verses on the Kanye album.
Like, you know, we got that.
It's like, yo, like, it's still there.
Clearly, we know it's still there.
Like, can we just get like maybe 10 of those a year or every three years?
Just say something.
Yeah.
I think what happened with Donda did play a role in him leaning more into the flute stuff.
Finding more peace with it.
Like that was one of my favorite verses I think I've ever heard my life.
And that's saying something.
Like that verse is fucking incredible.
He was extremely vulnerable.
Everything got switched up that got leaked.
And then it couldn't go out because he was cursing.
And like to put that level of vulnerability, especially when the last time he had put
out music. This is the first time Andre's put out
just instrumentals. When his mother passed away
he did put out, I think, two
records that were mainly just instrumental.
And then to
really talk about it
for the first time and it go the way it
went with that release, I can see three
stacks saying, fuck this.
Just having negative energy towards
rap and just finding
more peace in what he was doing
over here. Like, there is no
controversy around this. No one can
fuck it up. No one can take
his words and art
and do anything with them now. They don't have control over it.
So I don't know
if it's true, but I can see a world where that
really
had a negative effect on him that he didn't want to rap.
I trust Andreth 2000. I'm going to just say that.
I may not understand it,
but I trust him. I think that his brain
and his, he knows what he knows what he's doing.
Yeah, on top of that, don't nobody want to hear from an uninspired rapper.
If he like, what I got to rap about, that's what I'm saying?
Don't rap about. I respect that to the fullest.
That's why when he said that, I was like,
But it's just like I said, when we did, we get a verse like that off to Donda,
and it's like, but clearly it's still there.
Clearly, you can still rap at a high level.
But if he's not inspired to do that, and, you know, then it's all good.
I respect any artist that's not inspired to create art
and would rather just do what they're inspired to do.
Like, and albums are different.
Three stacks pops up at least once a year, but that's a year worth of content
that he can pull from for a 32.
Yeah.
Like an album, yeah.
We just heard him on Killamike's album.
Yeah.
You know, so I mean, he's still.
you just have to, I feel like you have to be super inspired to get a full, especially the level that he wraps at, a full rap album.
You're going to need some fucking inspiration.
That's not fast food.
That's very detailed rap art.
That's very detailed art that 100th album does.
But congrats to three facts for doing something he wanted to do, something that made him happy.
Respect it.
I think that's great.
And I admire it.
And I strive to do those exact types of things.
I didn't smoke to the album yet, but I'm going to do it tonight.
I'm going to see where it pays me.
Hopefully he doesn't land me in.
Let us know if it scares the hose away.
Yeah, I will.
Do we have voicemails?
You've got mail.
We do.
Pardon me if we played this one already, but we'll find out.
Great.
What's up, y'all?
All right, here's my question.
My oldest kid is 14 by the B-15.
My youngest just turned 12.
We renegotiated child support to increase, even though I offered a thousand,
$1,000. That's a whole other situation, but we ain't going to talk about that.
So in order for the child support to get increased in the state that my other co-parent lives in,
we have to do a paternity test.
This was brought to my attention back in April.
However, it was never brought back up again.
And it was kind of one of those conversations where it was like, well, we need to do this.
And I was like, all right, cool, let me know what I need to do.
Never heard about it again.
Ever since then, it's been like radio silence about like the increase and all of that stuff.
So does that mean that my kid is mine or should I be concerned?
That's a loaded ass question.
I think women would still ask for child support if it wasn't your.
because you're the money source at this point.
So I don't, two things can be true.
That may not be your kid,
but she's still going to ask you for money
and increase the amount of child support.
No.
There's plenty of men that are paying child support
on a kid that is not theirs,
and they don't know that, and the mother knows that.
Yakes.
Plenty.
But this is a thing, though.
Like, I don't think that,
because he said that she's quieted down
about the increase and all that.
Like, once she found out there had to be a paternity test,
she kind of just let it go.
So his thing is like,
oh, bitch, well, you have.
was just mad hungry for this money and now you don't care no more like because of
a paternity test.
So I mean at the end of the day he's going to end up paying for anyway.
He signed a birth certificate.
It doesn't matter if they're yours or not.
You still have to pay your health support.
Even after a paternity test?
Is that true?
No.
And a lot of states, whoever signs the birth certificate even if it's not your kid.
You can go right back to Rockefeller centers where they get the birth certificates from.
You can go right back down there and get that shit unstamped.
That ain't my kid, man.
That don't mean just because you signed a birth certificate that you got to pay $1,000.
It seems like the paternity test is a big part of it.
this or else he would be right like this seems like that's a necessary step of course i'm sure if you
go with a paternity test you can easily get your name off the burst it's not my child take you to
court for child support it's not my child i don't have to pay child support just because i signed the
birth certificate like we took a we took a paternity test comes up that it's not my kid take my name
off of this birth certificate simple oh and it would be paternity fraud you can't do that
you can't if you put your willingly know what i said that yeah
But that's the case in here, no?
He was really long-winded.
Is he still seeing the kid?
No, he still sees his kids.
Yeah.
That's so fucked up for me to play that game.
That's weird.
Like, that's so fucked up.
I mean, I would just straight up have a conversation with her
and ask why she quieted it down.
I don't know if that would backfire and it ends up being your kid.
And then she's like, oh, well, now you brought it up.
I need my child's board.
Just do what the homies do.
When you got the child visitation, just swab the, the child.
swab the child's mouth and get the paternity test yourself.
Like you don't need...
Is that legal?
You just got to swab the baby's mouth.
You just say, well, they're not babies.
Yeah, it's 12 and 15.
Yeah, how are you going to...
You can't just...
You got to do these COVID tests real quick.
Yeah, but I feel like 12 and 15,
I'm not sure which kid he's saying
is not sure if it's his, but...
You would kind of know by facial features.
Two kids, 12 and 15, you would know which one is your way.
She got a type.
Nah.
You know.
By that, I can see like babies and toddlers.
If you're looking at a kid at 15, you kind of know, like, yeah.
It may, this is a chance this kid is, I don't know.
It doesn't, not saying that it has to look like you, but it's just certain things that's just like, you feel it.
You can, you can probably feel that.
Like, yo, like, nah, bro, let me, I'm not sure.
It's a reason he's not sure.
But you've also spent 15 years raising that kid.
Yeah.
Now, that's the fucked up part.
You're bond with that person.
Even if the paternity comes up that, that it's not your kid.
do you still keep that relationship?
I mean,
with a 12-year-old and a 14-year-old?
You got to.
Well, I am going to go to court
to get my money back.
Oh, yeah.
Fuck is your...
That's the biggest thing.
You'll never get that money back.
You will never pay.
I agree.
She got to what you mean.
She got to run that.
She's not going to run a shit.
Who has 15 years of child support
just laying around?
No, I mean...
I'll take installments.
Cash me out the first.
Just like I was cashed you out the first.
Anytime you get money.
Run and that's fucking up your relationship
with those kids, too.
All right.
If it's not mine.
Well, yeah, but you know how the mom.
Yeah, if it's not mine, I don't care about it fucking up the relationship.
Oh, stop.
A little nigga, give me my money back.
You still don't love on the kids.
Jordans, yeah, to get right.
Give me all that shit back.
Yeah, like, fuck out of here.
Give me all my shit back.
My PlayStation.
I need all that.
My PlayStation.
You ain't my kid.
Yo, let's be so mean to do with a kid.
At 15 when you find, when, it'd be fucked up for the kid to find that up.
And then on top of that, you take his Xbox.
I'm only saying, I'm only saying if the kid starts to fill away because I have his mother
paying me back all the child support.
Well, a kid is going to.
I mean, the kid's going to feel away, bro.
Game is the game.
Because it's kind of like.
Yeah, well, fuck that little nigger.
Fucking me my bread.
You're not my kid.
I still teach you to work on your left hand and all that with you.
I still pick you up, take you to the park and get you right.
Damn.
But you're not going to be mad that I'm getting my bread back from your trifling mother.
Get the fuck out of here.
Don't get me no attitude because I'm getting my money back.
You ain't my kid.
Is his name Chris?
Yeah.
Chris, I hope for the sake of everything that this isn't true.
And before you go, find out the information.
on that. Make sure that's a question you really want to know to answer to.
That's not a bad point. More importantly, getting the information on your kid's shoe sizes.
Yeah. So when it comes time to repo, yeah, yeah, yeah. You get the new fit planned out?
Yeah, I need all that. I need all that. That little nigga got wild sneakers in that I purchased. I need all that.
More fucked up if one of the kids is his and the other isn't based off mall's theory.
Oh, yeah, now you got to fight. Then he's just stealing all the shit back from one sibling.
Whichever kid is mine, y'all got a fight.
you got to knock him out.
Who uses the Xbox more?
You, all right, you're my kid.
If not, I'm taking it.
Yeah, you got to fight.
Why do they have to fight?
Their siblings.
No, you ain't, no, that ain't, they ain't my kid.
You're my kid.
You're my blood.
A stranger in our house.
Y'all, please don't get pranked by, Ma.
If Maul is currently fucking you,
we're all, please, please do not keep the baby.
Also, look at what Maul considers father.
He's like, I'll work on your left.
Yeah, yeah.
That's all it takes to be a father.
Yeah, that's it.
Get him right.
Take him to the park.
Make sure he ain't no punk.
You know what I mean?
Work on this game.
But I need my money, though.
She got to cash me out.
We're not doing that.
No, but jokes aside, he does need to talk to her.
Like that's something you can't let linger, even though it's been 15 years of lingering.
You have to ask.
You know, how fast in the girl's phone do you go from texting to, like, journaling?
What do you mean?
What do you mean?
Well, journaling is when you're like, she's not responding to you.
You're just like texting.
Oh, boy.
Blue on blue on blue.
Yeah.
It's a journal.
That's funny one.
I haven't done that.
It is. It is definitely a journal.
I haven't, I don't do that.
Last time I did that, I was four messages and that's it.
How long were the messages?
No, it was like, it was like, it was like three from that initial time.
That's it.
Well, no, four from that initial time.
That's it.
I didn't respond back after that.
You blocked her?
You know, people that write a journal and then blocked it.
Yo, if somebody writes me a long-ass message and then blocks me, it sends me into a murderous ring.
No, yeah.
No, I was short messages.
I'll write your, my ex-best friend, God bless to that.
She did that to me and blocked me.
everything. I wrote her mother on Facebook. I copy
and paste it what I sent before she blocked
me and I... Damn, bro.
You go to hear what the fuck I said.
Big Slytherin. You called her your ex-best friend?
Well, she's dead. She's passed, yeah.
That doesn't mean she's your ex-best friend.
Oh, that's what you... I thought you meant just like a...
No, she was a former...
So you put ex-in-front her because she's no longer here?
I don't know why. That was just... I actually have never done that.
I get what you mean. I had like a falling out before she passed.
You were calling her your best friend and then she...
Yeah, ex-best friend just because she said...
So you think about...
Ex-s is on your mind, so.
much. You just putting in front of best friends that's the one here. Would you say that with their
wife if it was her like if she died ex-wife? Listen, former. Former wife. I mean, same message.
No, you would be like, if I get married again, that's my ex-wife. No, what's the term? What's the term?
What's the term? It's a widow if the husband dies, right? You're now a widow. The woman's a widow.
Yeah. What's the term if the wife dies? What is the guy? I think it's a widow. It's a widow.
Zing! Jackpot. Oh!
This week's line.
Easiest way to get back out there.
Powerball.
Tax free.
He gets sympathy.
He's single.
Pussy.
Women are cooking for him.
Like, you know, girl, you know somebody going over and taking care of that, man.
This is why they don't care about how we feel is, man.
Because we say shit like this.
Because we say dumb shit like this.
Putting the ex when something passed.
Do I have ex-grandparents?
Basically, yeah.
Because it's only an extra grandpa can be replaced.
If it can be replaced because, like if that role can be filled, you can't fill your grandparents.
Your grandparents are dead.
You're not going to get new grandparents.
But a wife, once she dies, that's your ex-wife because again, you'll have a new wife.
Are you see what I'm saying?
I don't know if that's the term.
If you die, Rory, you're my ex-boss.
You don't know why?
Because I'm going to get a new boss.
I couldn't just be your friend that passed away.
Right?
That's what you amounted him to?
I'll say,
my cousin passed away
and her husband
remarried to amazing woman,
great family, whatever.
If I ever heard him say
about Missy
that she is his ex-wife,
I might put hands on him.
Are you sick?
Why?
Why?
Why?
I don't know this circumstance
referred to her as Missy,
not your ex-wife.
They were married when she passed,
right?
Yes, they were married.
So if somebody says,
who's Missy, what he gonna say?
My former wife.
My wife.
My late wife.
Oh, there you go.
I think of my late wife.
Yeah.
there you go. That's more formal. Yeah.
X-wife is... And makes it sound like it
ended poorly. Yeah.
And that's crazy. Like you've been exed out of the
position. Exactly. Well, God took you
out. Not me.
No, no, disrespect to me. God.
That's gang-s. No, you're talking about your friend.
X. She's dead. Whatever.
That's a Mars middle name, by the way.
X? No.
I'll see.
Yo, Rory named
his daughter. His middle name
was X.
Amara X.
I know you love black culture, though.
That's fucking ridiculous.
That's a variable.
I know you love black culture, but that's a bit.
No, that's insane.
Especially because I have a white shop named Amara.
We didn't know she's going to be that white.
But what if I did it EX?
That'd be sicker.
All right.
I'll be, go, Rory, listen, man, we've got to get you some help.
That's close.
Ed, and the show sold out.
Yeah, I don't know why.
What fuck are you pointing?
He keeps pointing to the tour.
All right, we're in New York City.
Tony, all December 1,
There's no tickets available.
I'm going to stop doing all this bullshit.
It's the last show.
It's sold out.
Edd to make you happy, sorry about that.
Edit.
Tickets available now, new Roryinball.com.
Merit is available.
Subscribe to the Patreon.
Subscribe to the YouTube.
Tickets are maybe available, maybe four or five left.
There's none.
There's none?
I check this morning.
They're out.
All right.
So the show sold out.
Mall's list.
Mall's list is available.
They only giving me four people.
You know Sony Hall.
Let me and Rory get four people.
I love Sony Hall.
Shout out to the staff.
love you guys, love the venue.
They are the most stingy people
when it comes to a fucking day.
They act like we're not from here.
It's insane.
Like you want me to choose between my mom and my dad?
So who you're going to choose?
That's tough.
For the people that don't know.
I've never met your dad.
I met your mom mad time.
For the people that don't know, generally speaking at venues,
they comp you 30 tickets as guest list
per venue for friends and family.
Obviously it's a bigger issue when we're all from New York
and we can all probably submit
20 names easy.
And then we have to whittle that down to 30 amongst the whole team.
Is Bill coming?
Big guy?
Oh, see.
How do you know about our nickname for him?
That's what you told me.
You got to help put the big guy to sleep.
That's what you told me.
Excuse me?
Yo.
That's what they said.
Hey, you're going to help put the big guy to bed.
The occasionally call him the big guy.
I text the group chat asked y'all about a pause.
I needed a pause panel and nobody responded.
We had different timing.
You know how much shit was going on with that text?
Yeah, we had them.
more important things to do. I don't even remember that text.
What text? It was random as fuck.
Something about, yo, is this pauseworthy? And I read it, but I was like half.
Something about a phone under a guy's pillow. So I was at a hookah lounge.
Of course you were. Right. And one, there were, obviously there was like a section and there
were couches with pillows. So the one guy said to another guy was like, yo, is my phone
under that pillow? And I said pause and they said, how is that a pause? How is that a pause?
How is that a pause? You asking another man if there was a, if you're a phone,
phone under the pillow?
You wouldn't feel you.
What a reach.
No.
No.
That's why see Demarest.
That's why context is important because you definitely didn't say y'all was
No.
He didn't say all that.
Now, if you,
if that was in a bedroom.
And also the guy the ass was gay.
That doesn't,
it doesn't,
that still wouldn't give it to them.
It means your pause.
All right.
Yeah, I don't.
I think it's.
Well, I think you got to say pause just because the guy is gay.
So.
No.
That's how that.
I mean, naturally, you just would have to say pause if you're asking a gay guy.
Naturally.
You don't just say pause to address a gay person.
I'm no, if you're asking a gay person is my phone.
No, if you're asking me too, pause.
No, no, no.
I'm saying if you're asking a gay guy is your phone,
is he sitting on your phone?
Like, you would have to pause.
Okay, that's a little bit more.
That's what I'm saying.
But under a pillow, though?
I'm not pausing any of that.
I'm not either.
What's the pause about that?
There's nothing pause.
Y'all pause every fucking thing, bro.
Now y'all don't know what it is.
Maybe I'm lost.
Oh, I'm so glad you said phone.
Yeah, that was crazy.
Is that what you was?
That was crazy.
That was crazy.
That was crazy.
Yeah.
See, look.
That was a pause right there.
That's how we got the meeting.
Ew.
That was the ritual in the initiation.
Oh my God.
But yeah, Demaris, I missed that because when you sent that, we were in a raggedy old van
and I was having flashbacks of being.
No, that was before that.
Oh, what?
It was me before that.
Gotcha.
Well, anyways, Sony Hall, December 1st.
I'm sold out.
I would be at that show, y'all, if you were missing me.
Oh.
Demaris's going to be there.
Oh, yeah, you're going to be there.
I wouldn't get too cocky.
You don't know what you're going to do.
Oh, it's happening.
It's happening.
Oh, yeah. What the fuck am I doing?
We decided as a crew. Everyone voted.
We decided as a staff and as a motherfucking unit.
Yeah.
That you will be eating.
This fucking record label.
48 mozzarella.
Oh, yeah.
Live at Sony Hall December 1st.
We're going to set up a side table.
We're going to have you a nice high chair, high table on the end of cut.
We're going to have a count meter.
Spotlight.
He's going to set up a count meter.
And we're going to get you some fresh hot mozzarella.
We're going to keep bringing them in hot and fresh.
And we're going to see if you can knock down 48 before the show.
I'm going to see if you can knock down 48 before the show.
I'm going to the club.
that. So I can't... Oh, no, you're going to the... You can go to the club $2,000.
Richard, though. You can throw two bands that night if you finish all 48.
That two bands will be sitting on your table.
We're taking the cash out. It will be sitting right there.
So no one, we shouldn't even say that. Pergoal are going to be madly. I'm prepared to rob us.
So I can't like, I like, fuck like working the show. I'm just sitting in the court.
What are you going to do? What are you going to do? You're just eating. You're just
eating. You're just going to be eating. Really? You're just going to be eating. He sounds
crazy. But okay. You're just going to be eating. It's been on tour, y'all.
Yeah. That's my point. Yeah.
You're just going to be eating.
That's what you're going to be doing.
But literally, that's the entertainment.
Eat all the sticks.
We just want you to eat mozzarella sticks.
You'll be on stage with us, the whole job.
We're also doing shot.
Julian and editor are also doing shot for shot.
That same day?
That might as well.
Well, I can't drink.
I want to drink.
No, no.
You're going to be too easy in water.
You're going to be eating mozzarella sticks.
We got Pepto.
We're going to bring out the Pepto Bismal on ice with the bottle.
We're going to cut the bottle of her.
In the bottom of her chair.
Yeah.
Put a bucket.
And a garbage bag.
So you can just go.
go if you need to.
But these two had a whole back and forth.
Demaris, who could drink more?
Between me and Julian, shot for shot, who's winning?
Of tequila. Blanco.
Thank you.
That's racist.
It's because he's Mexican.
No.
I went with Ed and too.
And I said not because he was Mexican because he's a DJ.
And I feel like DJs can drink.
Yeah, I don't think you could do tequila.
I think you could do beer.
No, I've proved that already.
No, we tried to do a little case.
Julian can do wine.
I would smoke Edding in wine.
Probably wine.
Wait, tell me about the beer.
We were in Toronto.
Case race in Toronto.
and we were already drunk.
And it was just like the six-pack tall boys.
I probably finished one.
He finished five of them.
Yeah.
I was so full.
It was like not.
It wasn't fun.
And that's another thing.
You have a different diet than Edin.
You have to think about your figure.
He definitely has a different diet.
I had a salad today with salmon.
Like yeah,
he eats a salad with salmon and fucking water all day.
Like you can't take fucking back to keats.
There's nothing for it to sit in.
She was lit.
I had a salad with salmon today.
What would you have,
Rory?
Chipola
He did
He really did
All right
Well we didn't
Fuck out of you
Yeah
Well no we didn't eat healthy
Yesterday
Where
When we had like fake dinner
Together
We had like steak
And
Yeah you had steak
Beef Wellington
We ate pretty healthy
In London
Yeah I didn't eat too bad
I got smoked on Twitter
For saying
The Fanta in UK
Would make me a soda drinker
Yeah what was up with that
Well apparently
Everyone thinks
It's awful
I thought it was fucking great
I think ketchup's better
Out there
That's sugar law they have
It's the
preservatives. You can't shit food. Don't get me wrong.
But the small things that
they take sugar out of, I like.
It's just unseasoned. A lot of unseasoned
shit. That's the problem. Well, Fonte, what are you
drinking? Orange. Yeah, orange.
It was great.
Roy cried on the plane too. You hated.
So? No, that's cool. Swagued you cry.
I was watching somewhere in Queens and I made me
Queens movie. Okay. With Ray Romano.
It's really fucking good.
I don't know he started that.
Listen, man. I've met him.
So I... Call him. It's okay. We'll bleep it.
No, I'm not going to give me.
edit no more work. I'm sorry.
Not do it.
From my seat and I like scooted behind the curtain and go to the Delta one where they were sitting.
Again, there was a bar on the plane.
Yeah.
I go up there and I meet Roy and he's like sniffling and shit.
He goes, I could cry.
He's got a glass of wine.
He's like,
he's queens.
He's queens.
He let sticks do what he wanted.
Sticks could have went to the league, but he wanted to be a poet.
So Ray Romano did it.
I don't know who any of these people.
Yo, man.
Oh, man.
Oh, this is your first time watching it.
I never even knew the movie existed.
Same.
It wasn't a great selection of movies.
Yeah.
So I was like somewhere in Queens.
All right, let me click it.
And I was like, I like Ray Romano.
Yeah, then just waterworks.
Waterworks.
Sticks was one of the worst actors I've ever.
Yeah, fuck it.
He was such a f***.
No, it was funny because on the way to the airport, I was
telling, or not the way there, I forgot.
I was telling everyone that
when I watched the Amy Winehouse documentary
was the first time on a flight and I cried,
which everyone was like, I get it. That Amy Winehouse
documentary will definitely make you cry.
When you guys watch
somewhere in Queens, I don't know if I really have an excuse.
It's not that much of a tear
drinker, but. I mean,
it was some home shit. Yeah, there you go.
I think everyone can relate to their family.
All of you, I think, would relate to them. That's why
I was crying. Oh, also, before I forget, I ran
it to McKinsey, who happened to be
recording at the same studio we were recording
at in London. Shout out to McKenzie.
It's McKenzie T on Instagram. One of the greatest
voices I've ever heard.
It was so,
so good bumping into. We were trying to connect in L.A.
while I was there, while we were there for the show,
but we missed each other and randomly
just happened to see her
literally in front of the studio that
we were recording in.
And it was so good to finally connect with her,
finally meet, whatever we've been FaceTime
and DM in for a long time on
Instagram. And she plays
some new music from you that she's working on.
Incredible, incredible, voice, incredible talent,
but a more incredible, incredible person.
So shout out to McKenzie.
It was so good to see you.
If I give you some beats, would you send them to her?
Sure.
Like you sure?
Yeah, absolutely.
Because I still don't think you've sent Belly that beat I sent you.
Belly's not writing.
I told you that.
Oh, yeah, that's right.
He forget the shit when I answered him.
Like, oh, you're not writing.
I'm not going to send an artist track and they're not even writing right now.
It's like, that's stupid.
Yeah, but maybe I would inspire him.
Well, you're right.
Maybe that wouldn't have happened.
But no, McKinsey has access to every producer.
My beats would be the one that would...
Yeah.
No, I'll absolutely.
I'll send him to McKenzie though.
Shout out to McKenzie.
It was so, so good this year.
Yeah, actually, I already have an idea done that I did with Jesse Boykins that I think should be great for.
Yeah.
Well, cool.
Let's get the fuck out of here.
Let's get out of here.
Happy Thanksgiving.
Happy Native American slaughter day.
Nice.
If you're going to eat turkey and just think about all the genocide that happened on this land.
Duncan and gravy.
Yeah.
And currently.
and currently happening in the world.
Where's everyone celebrating?
Home.
I don't know if I'm going down to Virginia yet or if my family's coming up here.
I'm waiting for them to tell me something.
Damn, they late a little bit.
I'll be upstate.
Niggas.
Yeah, I have to go upstate and cook and host and do all that.
How do you get home?
I'm flying.
Delta 1 to Rochester.
40 minutes.
Where are you going to call a shenan?
I'm not from Rochester.
I know.
Why it's fun.
I like this joke down.
Syracuse is funny in its own right.
No, because we hate Rochester.
We've ran the Syracuse
jumping into the ground, so now it's Rochester.
Yeah.
I'm taking Amtrak home on Wednesday.
Just kicking it for a weekend.
Damn, that's like cut.
Oh, it's always the thing.
You're a man.
You don't have to do shit.
I got a, uh, what?
Toof her.
I have to host at my crib.
Swag.
Then also, you guys know my mom's situation.
Then also have to go to Pennsylvania,
to Kia side of the family to bring Amara
to meet everyone that they haven't met.
Oh, that'd be fun.
No, I actually am really excited.
There's got a cool Airbnb.
That'll be some nice.
That's where I'm going to throw on the three stacks.
In one day, though?
You have to do it.
No, no, no, no.
Oh, I was like, whoa.
Yeah, I'm doing Wednesday.
You should try to play the flute album for Amara and see if she goes to sleep to it.
Nah, come on.
Three stacks is a Miss Rachel.
She needs her, but I'm sure.
You know, Amara?
No, Mara needs bars from Rachel.
Oh, she needs to hear.
Okay.
Yeah.
She needs action bronze.
You should dress her as like a turkey.
I should dress my child as a turkey.
And, like, well, that'd be con cute.
Yeah, people do that.
Like, it's at first Thanksgiving.
Just the child's turkey.
You then, like, you jokingly put her in the oven.
Not in the oven.
Like in the, whatever that dish is.
Platter?
Pan.
Mm-hmm.
Or you can just like not do it.
Yeah, or.
Sorry-mind, we lost it.
You can just put clothes on her and just like have a regular day.
Or I can make her sweet potato puration.
Just feed her like a normal person.
There you go.
Did she eat whole foods yet?
Yeah, she's in food.
Oh, it's not from whole food.
Omar's always in whole food.
Trader Joe.
That's her spot.
She knows when I don't shop at Whole Foods.
She's like, this is not from whole food.
This traitor Joe?
Yeah, no.
No.
Please don't do that.
Well, yeah, I have a long week, but I am excited to get some time off and see family.
I'm happy about that.
Well, good.
We need this time off to recharge, regroup.
Hopefully everybody enjoys time with the family and friends, and we'll talk to y'all in a few days.
I asked because I was going to say, if anyone doesn't have anywhere to go, they're more than welcome in my house.
Oh.
You see what watching somewhere in Queens will do to you?
Well, with Paloza, I used to do that, too, because not everyone in Paloosa was from New York,
and they sometimes have to decide
whether they were going home
for Christmas or Thanksgiving.
So I would have, yeah,
the people that don't have family in New York
just come to my house.
I got some homies
that can't make it home,
I'll set them your way.
No, I don't think that's another.
Like random dudes?
The people in this room.
Are you doing New Year's at your house again?
I don't know.
Maybe.
After Julian and I looked up some flights.
Oh, God.
To where I thought I was,
I was going to go to Toposeland,
but I don't know.
She was fucking expensive.
It was like OD.
Like $1,300.
It was like, yeah.
God.
It's usually $300.
Looked it up.
Y'all were going to go together.
Yeah.
Well, I was good.
He was going to sit on the journey's phone.
Family, like.
It was going to be your family and him.
You think I'm doing?
You think I'm there to, like I'm a nanny?
No, I can bring him out of thing.
He was going to bring somebody.
Yeah.
There's plenty of bets.
You guys would have been invited if everyone can afford a $1,300 fucking ticket
because I don't think I'm going.
And that was the economy price.
Hmm.
That shit.
I don't know now.
So, yeah.
We might be at the house.
Postland.
Well, either way, have fun.
Whatever y'all are doing, be safe.
And we'll be back soon to kick it and talk again.
Be blessed.
Be safe.
I'm that niggie.
He's just jentna.
Everything's giving to me.
I want to fix everybody's food.
A win is a win.
A win is a win.
I don't care what I'm saying.
Yep, that's me.
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