New Rory & MAL - Episode 221 | We Thought Pod Beef Was Over

Episode Date: November 28, 2023

We’re off to a hot start after taking a pod off. We briefly recap everyone’s holiday and then cover Jack Harlow’s set design during his Thanksgiving game halftime performance. Rory calls DJ Drama for his thoughts as well. Staying on football performances Ludacris was suspended in the rafters at the Atlanta Falcons game. Then Rory takes aim at one of The Minimalist Podcast’s co-hosts. The beef continues but this time between TI’s family. King tells his parents, TI & Tiny, that he’s in fact standing on bidness. We discuss the nepo baby dilemma in hiphop. Let’s head to Dubai where Chris Brown has come under fire over a clip of him laughing to a recent controversial Kanye lyric. In relationship news, Teyana Taylor and Iman Shumpert call it quits. This leads us to our voicemail which similarly is about a man dimming his girl’s light. Tune in as the guys discuss all of this + more! NY, we’ll see you Friday at (sold out) Sony Hall for our last show of the year. Follow The Team:Rory - https://www.instagram.com/thisisrory/Mal - https://www.instagram.com/mal_bytheway/Eddin - https://www.instagram.com/thankyoueddin/Julian - https://www.instagram.com/julian__nicholas/Demaris - https://www.instagram.com/demarisagiscombe/ Merch: https://newrorynmal.com/Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/newrorynmalYouTube Subscribe: https://rb.gy/hk7up Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoicesSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Took a quick break. One episode off. I'm sorry to our international listeners that do not give a let me not curse. We do not care about Thanksgiving. In America we do celebrate the slaughter of the native people that were once here by getting together and eating food as a family.

Celebrate genocide. Yes. So we took an episode off to celebrate genocide with our families. And we are back now. Is everyone well rested? I think I got sick. I was around too many kids.

I also got sick. I can hear it. Yeah. But I'm here to give my all. How was everyone's Thanksgiving? Good. Yeah. Tell me,

why. Yeah, I was local. It was cool. Thanksgiving, I don't know, man. The holiday just don't hit. It don't hit the same no more. Because you're old. You're not 10.

Yeah, because it's for Amara. Yeah, but I thought, I thought, no, Christmas, yeah, but like Thanksgiving. I mean, people don't really, is it like, are we celebrating Thanksgiving? Are we not? Like, are we happy for genocide? Or are we calling it National Heritage?

Yeah. We've been over for quite some time. We're over the genocide part. No, but I think, honestly, I think, like, COVID, that's one of the things we never got back after COVID was Thanksgiving. Really? Like a real Thanksgiving holiday. Yeah, no. I had two back-to-back pretty good Thanksgiving.

Really? I love things. I think is doing Friendsgivins, girls. That's different. That's different. That's not Thanksgiving. That's not Thanksgiving. That's not Thanksgiving.

That's not Thanksgiving. That's just an excuse for your friends to come over. Everybody could party, drink. But it's the same thing with saving. Just an excuse. Yeah, but the family thing is kind of like everybody rather just be with friends. They don't want to be with family. Because all the parents died from COVID.

Well, that's true. Outside of the history of Thanksgiving, it is one of my favorite holidays. There's no pressure. You just show up and eat. Same. It's fun. Because we're men. We don't have to cook.

I helped cook this year. I mean, just the, there's no real pressure. True. Even if you're cooking or whatever, you're just there to eat. I don't know, man. What's the pressure? As a person who hosts. I was going to say, Damaris.

And cooked for Thanksgiving. I went to four of them. Oh, but that's different, though. With children. That's where you feel it. When you host? Yeah, he's almost some no pressure. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

That's different, though. Sweep. Yeah, yeah. Just get fucked. Put everything out, set tables. You said get fucked. It's the her. You know, you know,

Listern. Oh, yeah. You did that in between mopping and what now? I never said it. When did you get the listerine? You did. I thought you said. It sounded like you said, it said something.

You might have been saying get fucking food. You might have been saying something else. Setting everything up and cooking all of that food. And then when everybody leaves cleaning, putting all that food up, throwing everything. Oh, you don't know the rules to the side and say you can't take it to go unless you clean up. It's a good strategy. Everybody has a good strategy. I was good strategy.

I was begging. I was begging. I was begging people to take. I was calling people like, hey, how was your Thanksgiving? Like, please come get some of this food. Like, we made entirely too much food. It was a lot. I did not enjoy my Thanksgiving. I enjoy cooking is my love language. So I enjoy watching people eating.

But it's just very, very. stressful and just a lot of fucking took all the groceries from shop right in rochester i mean i should have had a stressful one by theory because i left tuesday with amara and more children in my car to drive to pennsylvania the kia's side of the family who i've never met i was the only one they've been doing thanksgiving there for 30 years how was that i was the first person in 30 years to enter that hadn't been there for 30 years wow so you like the newbie you were the colonizer 100% oh so it's kind of like being in a fraternity all over again i don't really see the comparison It's like, you know, they don't know.

Who's this guy? I didn't do a keg stand. Did you feel like when you walk in there, I was kind of like, which man? Who's this guy? Who's this guy? Pretty much, yeah. But then seeing my daughter's face and hair, they kind of just put two and two together, like, oh, she belongs. Yeah.

That guy. Yeah. But usually I find those situations very stressful. I just kind of didn't care in a good way this year. Yeah. I think once you get older and have a kid, your focus goes there. I didn't particularly care if I was liked. I was liked, and they were very sweet people and very welcoming, but I didn't care if it was the other way.

Yeah. Because there's a baby. here that has your blood. So we're in this together. We do with it. Like, gotta do with it. Whatever.

Then drove back to Jersey so I could host my family where I did clean my entire house and I cooked. Wow. Would you cook? You know, an array of dishes.

Because we did the turkey Thanksgiving shit in PA. I made a Tuscan chicken that was great. We did some mac and cheese. Does that drink? Yeah, it was good. Creamy chicken. It was actually delicious.

Did you have your air fire? I have never had Tuscan chicken. No, I did it in the oven. But yeah, a bunch of different dishes. I had my family there. Amara was the star. Yeah.

So there wasn't much pressure. Then I went to the Giants game on Sunday with my pops and my godfather. Hell yeah. It was a lot of fun. I felt like it was... Giant flows? No, they won.

Oh, okay. Patriots missed a field goal right at the end. Yeah, the show was amazing. Oh, the 10-7 game? Yes. It was zero-zero for most of the game. Jeez. Oh, that's a terrible game.

That was a horrible game. The Giants are terrible. Oh, they kept calling it in the crowd the toilet bowl, because it's the Patriots and Giants. Yeah. Two worst team. Yeah. Pretty low stake.

It was fun, though, because it was a fun crowd that wasn't taking the shit too seriously. Except for, which I felt was like podcast karma. I had this guy behind me that was like one of those fucking know-it-all experts that just won't shut the fuck up during the game. Like, oh, they should have went left on that one. Like, oh, that should have been a third. Yeah, the play happened. And of course, I shouldn't have went for it on that one.

Yeah, I know because they didn't get it. I bet. How about you say that before the play? one of those annoying sports fans that thinks he has a fucking show but I was talking to my dad I think it was just karma because as podcasters

that's what we are Yeah We come in Monday morning quarterback At the next day like Oh you should have done a better rollout Like it was that guy Yeah Sitting behind me

So I felt like It was just subconscious Pretty much Just in football point That's all it was Yeah Then I walked over to the American Dream And went to Kaz's

A daughter's birthday party Yeah Went in that Nickelodeon Thing they have over there Also not an ad It's fine Yeah I had a lot of fun.

It was a tiring fucking weekend, as you can hear my voice, but I think I'm finally like an adult. Yeah. Nice. I got a lot of, I was like, you're an adult now.

Yeah. No, I felt that over the holiday too. I got as much rest as I could. Spent some time with the fam. And that was it. Like, I was just trying to just rest, man.

Like, just rest. That London trip, I ain't a lot. I don't know if y'all still like. I'm still tired of that. Yo, I don't know what's going on, but like, it's taking me a minute to get over that one.

Like that jet lag was serious. for me. Yeah. Like, so I just spent some time resting and spend some time with the family and that was it, man. But it was a cool break. A lot of things happened

while we were going. I suppose. Yeah, things always happen. I stayed off the internet for the most part, but I did catch in real time with my new family. The Jack Harlow

halftime performance on Thanksgiving Day, which outside of it being weird to try to explain to everyone what I do for a living that doesn't know who I am in a house, I then had to explain who Jack Harlow was to everyone

and why he was coming out of a paper mache igloo. This one was rough because I'm a Jack Harlow fan prior to what everyone thinks. Who do we think fuck this up? Those that didn't see Jack Harlow did the halftime performance of the Lions game looked very low budget.

I've seen Jack Harlow perform. He's not a bad performer. This was just boring and looked like it was thrown together. Sorry, can't even speak. Together at the last minute. Why was he here? There's the Thanksgiving. They always do a halftime show.

Yeah, but who, why was Jack, like, why did they decide to go with Jack Harville? One of the, yeah, he's one of the bigger artists right now. He's got a new single. I just feel like rappers that could hit every single word the way Jack does, you should give him some help in the production world. Because that's not easy to do that for the amount of rapes that he raps. He did like four songs in a row. They were all rapty rap.

Please help him. out with production. That's tough. When you're rapping, that's tough. Like, you need someone to guide that. This is the NFL. This looks like a school play. Yeah, this is the NFL.

They have a budget. They have a nice budget. I'm pretty sure they could have spent more on a production. But rolling Jack out there like that coming out of that igloo that just wasn't, you didn't know if it was an igloo. You didn't really know until somebody told you it was supposed to be an igloo. It just, it just was a bad. Those bags, it looked like a FEMA effort to stop like a levy breaking. Yeah.

It looked like the tents at a fire festival. Yeah. Yeah, this was, it just, the production setup was terrible. That graphic zone. Urban Wyatt, his homie in the back, people thought he was like a sign language interpreter. Yo, Jack, I respect it and understand what you were doing. I'm sure that's one of your closest friends that's been with you forever that believed in you when no one else did and you want to bring them with you. I respect that and love that.

Just not this performance. Keep me in the igloo. Find another way to represent your homies. I know what you were doing and it's respectable. That's a crazy hat. Maybe like a different part of the show. Maybe he doesn't come out of the igloo with you. Maybe he's on the stage already and, like, throws you a hat to put on.

It just wasn't, this is like high school talent show level. It just wasn't NFL halftime show Thanksgiving. Like, this wasn't that level. What game was this for? Lions Packers. Wow. Yeah, it was rough. Yeah, this wasn't good.

Jesus Christ. Just wasn't good. And it's messed up because things like this go viral and now, you know, you're the butt of the joke on Thanksgiving. Everybody's watching this game. Probably one of the highest rated games outside of the Super Bowl is Thanksgiving Day. So it just, it was nasty. That was a nasty look for Jack. Yep. You're, uh, you're live on the pod right now with Moe and myself. And we just, we wanted to ask why you ain't give Jack a proper production budget for that halftime shit, man. Uh, I don't, chill, yeah.

We're here defending Jack. Because I think it's very difficult to wrap the way he wrap. That's the NFL's fault, man. We're just trying to figure out who was buying the production. So we can blame someone other than Jack. Yeah, I mean, that's a good question. You know, it's in front of 80,000, so it's like, it's a tough situation to perform.

It's not Super Bowl, so they didn't give them Super Bowl budget. Yeah. So this is Goodell's fault is what we're going to land on. I'm cool with that. Because we were leaning on that. Yeah, I mean, you know, we mean, looking Canada had some suggestions, but they came in after the fact. I see, well, what did the Canada have to say about that igloo, though? I want to hear his exact words, though.

About the what? I want to hear what I want to hear what Canada had to say about the igloo. Cannon really did his people on igloo. He was hyped before the gangster girls drop. The igloo was interesting, though. Yeah, I mean. I would use that word as well. Interesting.

Interesting. Yeah. Man, yeah, the igloo was interesting. You know, the Detroit Lion dances did they think. Yeah, they tried to come in and give some choreo. Because his man's, and shout out to his man's, his man's tried to give some choreography in the beginning. Urban came through.

I won't want some of what he had. Yeah, the early Thanksgiving drinks. Well, we didn't call to shit on anything. Congrats on loving on me. Third number one, hot 100 single? Is that, is that correct? Yes, sir. Congratulations.

First class and then John would blue lines X. So yeah, number one, three number one. Congrats to that, man. Well, come February, tell Hove that Jack Harlow needs a bigger budget. Hilarious. Yeah, I don't know, man. I don't know what went wrong. I really don't.

I mean, I would start with the paper mache igloo. That's just my That's where my gut goes You have Eagles winning the Super Bowl ice him Oh man, I hope so, man I pray on it I really do pray on it Well maybe if they make this Super Bowl

Where's Super Bowl this year? Vegas, Vegas Yeah, we're in there I know Jack won't go for it But maybe we do like a Gangsta Grills New Roy and Mall Jack Carlo pop-up Like we could introduce Jack And you know

I could be his hype man I love the new record I know all the lyrics I'm also vanilla Just think on it Just trying to connect with the audience Yeah but just think on it Maybe we do a Gangsta Grills

New Rory Mall Super Bowl Vegas thing I'm into that I'm definitely into that All right bro I'll talk to you All right, Joe All right, peace

The thing that's great about Jack though is he's very much an online kid He understands the internet He understands how to poke fun on himself He's great at that So he lifted just like this bullshit screenshot from the performance and posted it on his Instagram, which is amazing. He leaned into it immediately.

What was his caption? There was no caption. There was no caption. But he did leave a sentimental message saying he, you know, his like either his uncle or someone from his family is from Detroit and they've, you know, been lifelong fans. It was a big moment for the people of his family that live in that area. No, no, you got to tie it into something personal.

That's how you kind of like soften a blow a little bit. Like, no, no, my uncle, that's like, you know, he's never had a chance to go to a lion's game. Yeah. So this meant a lot to him. So it's like, you don't want to laugh at that. And like igloos represent new life. Yeah.

He's actually like from Alaska. Yeah. You could tie it. It was a global warming campaign. There you go. See? Yeah. As you saw, the igloo is not once.

The iglo is not the same. Climate change. It went over our head. Yeah, yeah. Oh, okay. I see what Jack was doing. Detroit being. Bring an awareness.

One of those industrial cities that help build America. Yeah. We need to build the climate change within. Yeah. Build the climate change. It starts in Detroit. It starts in Detroit. It's Ford and then...

Yeah, climates. Climates. Forget it. Temperatures. Jack, don't ever do that again. I fuck with Jack Hallover. Don't ever let them roll you out of it. A terrible prop set up like that again in front of all of these people.

Don't do that. And you know he did rehearsals too because like Julian said, Jack's a very aware person. Yeah. You know during rehearsals at 9 a.m. before that game, he looked at that shit with the lighting. And they did a rehearsal and he was like, this is hard. This is going to be terrible. This is going to be terrible. This is going to be terrible.

But I respect it because at that point, we've been in situations where sometimes things just end up what they are. It's a mistake. It just happens. You just have to give. Yeah, but this is the NFL. You have to give your best. No, this is the NFL.

And Jack kept rapping. It's not like he gave a half-ass rapping performance. No, I mean, he did his job. He didn't know he walked out of that fucking Inglue. You should take in a knee. Yeah, that would have really showed him, right? Taking a knee out of the igloo. It would have been amazing.

Eminem already beat them to it at the Super Bowl. You know what I thought was so funny with that? Hove took over the Super Bowl and said, yeah, we passed kneeling, we done with kneeling, and then Eminem kneeled at half time at Jay Z show. Maybe Jack's homie will do it. I just want to know why do they keep trying to tie hip-hop into the NFL so much. Because you're your man's.

Yeah. Yeah, but it doesn't have to be hip-hop. It doesn't have to be rap. Hip-hop's been involved with the NFL, probably not to the degree that it is now. It's pretty much every performance. Because didn't somebody last year have a terrible... Didn't Big Sean have like a terrible performance last year too? I think he did the halftime one year recently.

Sean definitely did halftime Detroit on Thanksgiving. They killed him for that though. I don't remember. Yeah, it was like, yo, that was terrible. Because he was sitting in the stands, I think. It started out the performance. He was sitting in the stands. He did 2021.

And people didn't even know that. Like, people didn't even know who he was. I remember that. In Detroit. They didn't know who Big Sean was? He did it with Detroit. Yeah. I remember.

Yeah, it was like nobody wasn't like... Oh, yeah. They were sitting behind them. I'm sitting in front of I'm not paying any attention. It's just awkward. Like, stop putting these rappers in these awkward positions at these NFL games. But they probably told the crowd not to look. No, the energy was very much like that would have looked weird if everyone was

crazy. The energy was very much like, all right, fan, we can get back to the game. Wait, but this is kind of cool with these camera angles and it's dark and shit. It's cool for us at home. Exactly. It works for TV. It works for us at home. That's what they're focused on.

That's what they're focused on. They're not focused on who's in the stands. Yeah. They already got their money. True. This seems like a bigger production. Way bigger. Than, I mean, he has a stage, that alone.

Not an igon. They at least turn the lights out for big shots. Jack, they had these lights on. They had the office. What are those harsh-ass white lights called? Fluorescent? Yes. They turned those on in Ford Field for him.

But, like, I thought Luda's halftime shit was creative and cool. No. What was wrong with this? Rappers got to stop flying in from the ceiling, bro. Why? That's not hip-hop. That's not hip-hop. So when Red and Meth did it in backstage, when you were on that whole tour, you didn't say that to them?

No, but that's different, though. How? How? Because that's the same thing. No, but that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's ludicrous in Atlanta. Yeah, but look at that shit, man, look. That's fire. Any rapper, if any rapper should do that, that ludicrous should be.

This is fire. He's fast and furious, ma'am. And Luda's always had great visuals. What? That's not cool. That's very, it's very, and he was doing, he was doing, like, old records, too. From that angle looks stupid. I don't want to see ludicrous coming down from the ceiling like that.

Oh, I do. From this angle is pretty bad. The 360 camera is cool, though. But the actual camera that was on him is pretty sick. And again, it's for TV and four socials. It's not really for the crowd. People are using the bathroom and getting food at this point in the stadium. This is funny.

No, that's my problem. It's like a joke. It's not like he did some new ludicrous record. He brought the Vic Jersey back. Been a while. This was hard. We should have you guys come from the same. healing in the New York. But when was the last time you had a good

halftime performance period that wasn't the Super Bowl or like NBA finals? These are always not low budget per se. But that's what I'm trying to say though. Like why is it, why can't the NFL seem to get it right with these halftime performances? Outside of the Super Bowl. Outside of the Super Bowl. What do you mean get it right? What's what? What it just rode out Jack and an igloo that wasn't an igloo. Well, I mean, that was a special case. Big Sean, they had him in the stands. I just don't know what he was. I just don't really production budget for these things.

Why not? This is the NFL. You think they don't have the production budget? They don't have the money? The halftime, it's not the length of a Super Bowl halftime. I think they're still working on like a shorter halftime. So to do like a set change, I don't know, because I agree with you. All these productions look half-ass. And I'm not on the artist.

And I think I feel the way because it's like our culture that it looks like. I don't think they would have jelly roll looking like this. Hmm. Uh, maybe. I just don't know. You might not even get an igloo. You might just throw them on the field. Yeah.

I just don't know if they have. Do your thing. Anthem. Yeah. I don't know. I don't know. I want to see it. I want to see them have a country music artist looking like that. But I'm sure that they do. Those just don't. We just don't check. Yeah. To them because that's not sure what you're into. And what if the case is they give them a budget and they get to have creative freedom. Like that looked like a ludicrous idea to me. That's different. That didn't look like an NFL idea. That looked like ludicrous had this idea and thought it'd be cool.

Jack, I just hope. I hope we put that one on the league. I hope that was a Goodell for the decision. That's plan B, yeah. That was bad. If they came out and said, like, the set was designed by a local middle school. Yeah, there you go. There you go. I love it. That's cool.

That's a good cover up. Detroit Middle School. See? All right. You know the Detroit. Yeah, yeah. I know the one you talk about. D.

Make the left. And then you go straight. I know. Detroit Middle School. Yeah, yeah. The one on the left side. And then there's Detroit High School. Detroit College.

Yeah, it's only one. D high. Right. Yeah. T high is crazy. D. Yeah. Well, while Thanksgiving was happening, I did get a text in our group thread that kind of deteriorated me from like trying to get some peace of mind over the weekend.

Oh, yeah, my bad. My bad. Where do we want to begin? So I opened my phone and Edna put a timestamp in a YouTube link, which is typically funny. And I'm like, oh, great. I'll watch this when I get a second. So I think Amara went to take a nap. Dessert was over.

I think I poured myself my first beverage. I said, let me go watch with Edentson, because it's usually funny. It's like the 27-minute mark. I go right to it, throw on my AirPods, get a quick breather, still have spit up over my Thanksgiving sweater. It's hot.

Gross. And I went to go laugh just to find out that I was the butt of the fucking joke. Oh, you don't want to laugh when you're the butt of the joke? He hates laughing when he's the butt of the joke. That's not true. I laugh at myself all the butt of the joke. the time. So you just don't like it when white people make fun of you. We're going to get to that.

Basically. So to get so. He doesn't like, you might be, you might be on to something. You might be on to something. Rory hates white people so much that he doesn't even want them to joke about it. I know you're not talking. Yeah, like, I know you're not talking. You look like, yeah, like you look like Robocop without the helmet. I know you're not talking. He looks easy to draw. So his podcast called The Minimalist Podcast, which is very successful, because trust me, I did my research. I watched that fucking clip. Very successful pod. They've been around forever.

Thank you for the roads you paved in the pod world for however many fucking years you've been here. And I usually let a lot of things slide on the internet. When I am the butt of the joke, I laugh about it. I'll even shoot Julian a text with Reddit stuff that I'm the butt of the joke and laugh because I think it's funny. Try to Reddit.

Here we laugh. This bit they did about advertisers on podcasts and they were trying to tell everyone that they don't do ads and they're so fucking cool because we don't do ads. So here's people doing ads. So we're really putting ads on our show anyways.

And it was our voices. And it was my second grade reading level trying to read ads. And they were laughing at it, which you guys have laughed in my face. And I think it's funny when you guys do it. Yeah. But then when the fucking Clay Aiken Reject

with the 90s, the 90s hair plugs, he looks like if Nicole Brown Simpson's boyfriend lived. Damn. That's what he looks like. Jesus Christ. Nice. I was fine. I'm fine with people joking on me when they don't have punchable faces like this.

It looks like a big mouth character. Y'all on his ass. Pointy nose ass. It looked like the end of a character. Y'all put me on to this. I just saw it early. I just watched it. I thought it was funny.

I laughed. I laughed too. I'm going to understand why you didn't. Why it pisses you off, though? Because you don't like white people joking on you. I get it. I understand. I just, all right, the level of Botox between the chin and hairline,

maybe you should read some more ads. Mm. Nice. That wasn't even what I was trying to. Like, he looks like he's getting the cheap L.A. Remember when everyone went to Hollywood in the 90s and got all, like, the untested surgery? He got, like, the first COVID vaccine surgery. version. This was when Botox wasn't

really working. He's from that era. What's the dude from TMZ? I was going to say Harvey Dent. Harvey Harder. What is wrong with you? Have you been watching Batman all we? If Harvey Levin'Hen

If Harvey and Chris Jenner Never made it and got more money, this is how their faces would have ended up. This looks like he went to get the surgery with the rest of the crew and they all became successful and could clean up all that shitty surgery and you just didn't have the bread to clean it back up yeah so you were just left

with your face having no expression whether you're laughing crying embarrassed you have the same expression like this all the time you're surprised all the time nice and your hair is surprised as well yeah with all that said it looks lazy feathered a little bit electrocuted with all that said this is how you know I was really this actually bothered me right so mad you know many times we could have copywritten shit and I haven't even lies about us, just everything I've let go. There was something about his

sunglasses, tan fucking lined face. You should go into the tanning salon and take the glasses off at least for a second. What's this gentleman's name? It doesn't matter. I have no idea. Nor do I care, but they are successful

and shout out to them. And the bit was funny. But because I felt away, Julian and I said, hey, go copyright that shit. When was the last time you guys have ever heard me? Even when we did our response video, we let that shit rock on YouTube. Yeah.

Nah. Clay's not getting that off on me. You? Clay. Clay is, no, not Clay. Yeah. Not Clay Clay Clay. Yeah.

This is crazy. You had a small-ass face. I do like the way the aesthetics of the show that are like they're wearing all black the black background. They kind of looked like the... Great set up. Like a black box theater.

It's not a great. Great production. By the way, they brought up some valid points too. They did. That's why I thought it was hilarious. No, because I was watching it and I was like,

why do they have a black man and a black shirt against a black wall? All I see is his teeth when he's talking and they don't have a great way. That's a lot of racist. What the fuck, bro? No, it's not. He was a guest, too.

Oh, damn, my bad. But there's certain ways you can't like, he's also very nice to the guys. Yeah, he was the nicest one of all them. Like the contrarian Like a nice way He was like I don't know Ads make money

It seems like it's smart of them to do that Who? The black guy that he's talking to I'm not on the black guy's ass I'm on the production team's ass Because we don't like mall a certain way Because we wouldn't like Because his skin color

If we light him the same way We like Rory wouldn't be able to see him Do you y'all see that? I mean when I first opened it Outside of thinking they do have good production I was like Jesus Christ Nick Carter went to shit He's dead

Yeah he's dead Yeah Morris That's Aaron Carter Oh You're an asshole. Damn it. Okay, just kill everybody. Sorry.

Sorry, Nick. Well, I mean, Lance Bass really let himself go. Damn. This is Christ. This channel has a half million subs and the video's got 14,000 views. So, you know. Well, yeah, we sent a copyright.

I'm sorry. I was in a petty mood. It's okay. It was, I'm telling you, it was his face. It is his face. Listen, I laugh at all of this shit, man. You look like Skeletor. He definitely has a full, like, queen routine.

He looks like a Tim Burton character. But it was because. he was poking fun at your reading level. But you guys do that and I'm totally fine with it. Because we're not white. Because we see you like three times a week. Yeah, we know you. Because we're friends. And we're not white. No, it's that white. Go back to his face.

Because he's like European. It's not, no, we have a lot of white people in our fan base that make fun of my reading rightfully so. I laugh along with them. I'm in the Reddit community. Yeah. Team Jordan's. I'm in the street. Team Jordan's wild. this like

it's something about that person saying it that just bothered me I got you he reminds me the guy from the Aids what was it what was his name was it Max Mad Max? Mad Max? Mad Max?

AIDS? The Aides It looks like he has it Oh Damn He does look Listerine gets rid of it There you go

Yeah there you go I'm talking about I feel like he looks like David Bowie Bowey Definitely little Bowie going on Big Bowie. You think he goes to the barbershop and is like, yo, give me the Jimmy Neutron.

Y'all, his ad. He looked like a good wind would fuck him up. Got a blast head as. I can't wait until he hears this. Right after this ad. Insert ad right here. And you know he's one of those fucking annoying, like, NPR guys that, you know,

only goes to the underground, coffee shops. He would never go to Starbucks. Like you can tell by the way they put their set. Like you can see the production crew and like the lights and like the monitor like oh we're not like the other pods. It's nice though. But he quietly supports Israel. Oh 100%

Oh my God. Big time. Max Headroom. He looked like he got mad headroom. He does have a lot of head. You know Julian pull up Max Headroom from the 80s. He kind of looks like Max Headroom. Right? Oh yeah. I definitely do that.

I don't remember Max Headroom? That is funny. No. Y'all don't remember that? No. No, but that's... We're not that old. Yeah.

Oh, my God. I forgot. Y'all wasn't even here yet. No, we were not. That's an awesome graphic, by the way. But yeah, that's hilarious. Yeah. Like, if he were to salute the troops, where do you think he'd place his hand?

That's fucked up. That's right. It's fucked up. What size fitted do you think he wears? the max the super max you know y'all is sick man max headroom is sick

he does he doesn't though no you know for sure that's who he looks like he looked like Max headroom I forgot you I weren't he looks like he's been working on his memoir for 20 years looks like he got a lot on his mind well you're gonna be in his next

I can't wait to see I can't wait to hear what he has to say about Roryo on his next episode I love white on white crime you know oh my god no no by the way I'm only coming back this way because he did cook me.

I'm going to be like, where are your SAT scores? I went to Vanderbilt. Shut the fuck up. I know the ratio of your CPM. Y'all was stupid, man. That's definitely, that's Julian shit.

That's Julian. But I'm not this guy. They had a funny, funny bit about the whole thing. And if they didn't have that fucking like arrogant tone on it, you know,

know like those those snobby fucking people julian no sort of like join yes but in a white way which makes it 10 times worse but that like that's right i'm black narcissistic fucking i think i'm better than everyone else you know that very pretentious yeah super pretentious that is kind of julian but the lebanese version he's pretentious like he brings like turnups to thanksgiving like he doesn't eat the regular food julian bring salmon when he was talking in that bit that i enjoyed that made me want to do the copyright shit. His mouth is so mouthy, bro. Because I hate when people think they're like better than you and look down on you

when you actually have the control to take down their video. It just bothers me. Like, I get it. I love white on white crime. I get it. You're way more intelligent than us. I understand. You're way better.

I get it. You know, I can tell by your sweater. You're amazing. I get it. You summer in Nantucket. I understand. Bro, his collar bones are showing through that shirt. I think he's ill.

Yeah. Like he's cool? Roy said you summer in Nantucket. I get it. Only Jay Cruz sells fucking extra small long sleeve shirts like that. Have you ever seen that excess? That's what he's wearing. From Jay Cruz.

Excess is his red. I love white-on-white crop. Good thread count though. Roy? Roy, you're 20 minutes of air just doing that. I'm not going to hold you though. I love. I'm cooking him.

I cannot wait for his response, though. He's got to cook. What is that gentleman's name? What's name? Uh, head ass. I fight. I have it. I don't know

I've seen people with big four heads before I've never seen a long for you Joshua Field Milburn Joshua Fields That's a crazy portrait And you know he That's how he introduces himself too That's why I did copyright

Oh yeah He adds Fields into that Joshua Field He's not like yo my name's Josh I mean that's literally his IG handle Is his full name That's cool But then again my email is my

He's a professor Is he married to a man That's why he has two last name? Wait, what? No, I think he's one of those pretentious people that puts their... Wait, is that a thing? No, I'm not... Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.

Is that like a thing? It takes it to a whole other level. No, I'm really... Because I thought about making some of those jokes, but they felt too easy. No, yeah, no. No, I'm not calling him gay, but he has two last names, so either... That's what you just said. Okay, I think that's his middle name.

Okay, so his middle name is... I'm saying that's how pretentious he is, that he probably keeps his middle name in there. Or, like, I'm Josh F, whatever. I think him and his wife have a picture. Patreon together. I think, I don't know. I watched.

He plugged his Patreon. I almost subscribed. You have dedicated hate her. Because you got a hate from the inside. This girl.

That's cool. I mean, yeah, let love win. I'm not going to say, I'm not going to cross the line. Yeah, see, that's different. Yeah.

Gigum. That's a little long ass head. Gee, Julie willing me wilding. But you know, what's funny about Julian when he should

talk people? He never had a fight. That's true. Yeah, I don't think people that never had a fight, can't talk shit about people?

No. Are you saying, are you openly saying that you would? Yeah, if it happened, if it occurred, I would clean him. He looks like one of those hipsters that does like, uh, yeah. Yeah. He definitely has some, he'll break your fucking arm. He has a yellow belt. He knows how to slow down his heart rate.

He's like one of those guys. He definitely cold plunges at sunrise. 100%. This guy's in shape. He knows how to slow his heart rate. He's good at archery. Heart tree. Oh, man.

No, he definitely has a cross. bone each room. Well, shout out to the minimalist. That's the name of the show. Yeah. Great. I hope you guys watch this whole thing because that wasn't good fun. I didn't cross the line on anything. No, yeah. If you survived all the ads that chopped this up. Yeah. I'm going to put an ad in the middle of this all. That would be hilarious.

Come right back in. Yeah. Should we stay on beef? Is there more beef to stay on? Pause. I said, Paul. Why don't have to respect the pause? Gotta get the Listerine. I said pause. He's got to get the Listerine.

Um, yes, there was some family feuding, which we thought naturally with Thanksgiving. Everyone puts, everyone puts their whole life on the internet. They put all their families. Everything. Everything is a secret. You would imagine at some point, a real authentic Thanksgiving family argument would end up on the internet. Yeah. And we got it from one of our favorite families that we've been watching for years on what was the name of their show?

Ti and Tiny. T.I. and Tiny. Yeah. The family hustle. I thought it was like King Family. I don't know. The family hustle. The family hustle.

We've been watching for years. Was there something like that? That's the label. Oh, sorry. A coup. Let's just plug everything. T.I. Shout out to T.I.

Always shout out to T.I. Expeditionally. So it appeared what I thought was in their house. I was later corrected that this looked like it was at the suite at the Falcons game. Yeah, Ludacris is out their window. Wow. While T.I. was supposed to be a surprise guest on the set. Was pulled back by his son.

Yeah. This happened while Ludacris was being. fucking flown in from the silver. Oh, bitch, get out the way. Throw them bows. Oh, get back, get back. You don't know me like that. That's true.

He said, you don't know me. See it. Telling your dad you don't know me is hilarious. I've seen some kids do it. What do you mean? I don't know you. I've raised you. So King was on IG Live having a full-blown

family conversation. We've all been in family conversations like this, but this one was even funer because he kept screaming that he stands on business and he was not raised with a silver spoon. He wants to be out in the neighborhood. He didn't want to be behind a baby. He wasn't.

raised with it. I've seen episode one of the fucking T.I. Tiny. To say that with your whole life. Family House. Vision's hilarious. Well, what he said was, what he said before previously, which is probably what led up to this argument is he said previously that he used to stay at his grandmother's house and they used to come and pick him up for filming. That he wasn't, all of that was a facade. He didn't live in the house. He lived with his grandmother and they would only come pick him up for filming. Yeah, but and then the T.I. And tiny also said that you cried because you always wanted to go to your grandmother's house because she let you suck a pass for it.

Yeah, which is why he was there. Yeah, you know, grandma, she's grandma going to let you do with your parents. It ain't like T.I.'s mother was living in the hood. That's what I was about to say. Do we not think T.I. took care of his mother? He seems like a guy that took care of his mother. He said, he said his grandmother lived in a band, though. That's what he said.

I just, I can't see. No. And I don't know these people. Yeah, no. But from what I have seen, I can't imagine T.I. allowing his mother to live in the band. I just don't see it. No.

I doubt it. But he stands on business. Instead, no one's ever pulled his car in that gate. This is just a clear indication of, you know, kids becoming rebellious that were kind of, like, had a good life growing up and they still, you know, he probably hears a lot of those opposite things from his peers. Oh, you had it good. You're, you know, spoiled kid.

You didn't come, wasn't raised in the streets. You're not tough. He gets a lot of that probably from his peers in high school. We've seen videos of him younger in high school getting into fights and things like that. So he seems like a kid that just had that he feels like he has to prove that he's down or he's, you know, he's just like it's one of those type of things. I know what this is. This is just trying to find his identity, trying to be accepted, I guess, quote unquote, in the hood or in the streets. And I think that's what T.I. was seeing in most of it was like, you don't have to be this person that you're trying to be so hard.

Like, it's okay to be a privileged kid that your parents worked hard and created a lot. life for you so you wouldn't have to deal with some of the things that they had to deal with growing up. But it's tough for kids. You know, when you go to high school and people know who you are and they know who your family is, they kind of, you know, call you privileged and, you know, you had it easy and you're not from the hood. And, you know, sometimes you want to prove that you down. But he probably went to a school with people that weren't from the hood. I don't know that. Yeah, but I mean. That's racist, Julian, because there's plenty of black people that of money. But that's weird that you thought. I mean, they said that. Especially in Atlanta. Especially in Atlanta. Especially in Atlanta.

Especially in Atlanta. There's probably more whites. Where? Everywhere in this country, there's more white people. That's how you're going to get out of this argument? Yeah. All right, cool. There's more whites that what, though?

In the private school, even in Atlanta, there's probably mad white people. All right. That's semantic. Cool. I know we just talked about hating people that are pretentious. I miss when celebrity kids all acted like they were better than us. I don't like this new wave of celebrity kids that are trying to be from the hood. I miss when they just thought they were better than us.

Yeah. Like blue. Bring back Paris Hilton. Like bring back those. like bring back Little Romeo. Like we always knew he was better. Damn, Lil'Roman. He made sure he told us

that he was better than us. All those kids were better than us and they made sure we knew that. I don't like this new wave of a celebrity kid that wants to be. I think T.I. Handman. At the same level as us. You put a kid in a chokehold.

Yeah. You gotta do. He's over 18, right? Yeah. That's man to man. Combat. Yeah. That's what you're supposed to do. Just the headlock is fun. I'm not saying choke him out.

so he can't like, nah, choke him out. You want to hold your breath to go to your grandma on this? Watch. Yeah, choke your kid out. Sometimes you got to choke your kid out. Sometimes you got to just put hands on your kid.

And not beat your kid, but just kind of let them feel that man's strength. Like, yo, because you know, he was bucking up. You know, he's starting to feel like he's a man. Obviously, I stand on business. You should say, you should be talking to your father. But you're telling your, you telling your mother and your dad, you stand on. What does that mean, though? You stand on business to your mother and your father.

What does that mean? I stand on business. And we didn't. really see the full video, but I think a bare hug chokehold to your son that's over 18 is perfectly fond of he's wild enough. Absolutely. Like just just holding your son like, yo, fucking relax. I think is totally, it's okay to put, it's okay for a dad to have to

like, you know, show his son like, listen, yes, you're becoming a man, you're a young man and I'm trying to respect you as such, but let's not get it twisted of the hierarchy here. Like, I'm your father. You, there's nothing, you can't whip my ass. Like, we don't need. We're not going to even try to attempt to figure that out. Like, you can't whip my ass. You wouldn't have shit including them big ass, fake-ass teeth in your mouth if it wasn't

for me and everything that I sacrificed. Well, he shouldn't order the extra largest. Yeah. I mean, it's just, you know, I understand T.I. stands in this. It's like you just, you know, like, calm down, relax. Because you're telling your mother, I stand on business. That means what, exactly?

That's how I remember. I don't know Tiny's guys too, though. He said, stand on business. And Tiny grabbed that phone and said, You sucked on a pacifier for 12 years. And he named it. And then when he tried to deny it and said, I did not suck on a passie for 12 years.

When he said Passy, I was like, oh, he sucked on a passy for passy. Yeah. Yeah, when you gave it a nickname, you might still suck on that pacifier. Yeah. I mean, it just sounds like, you know, they just have, it's just an issue of the son becoming a young man

and starting to feel like he wants to show that he's a man and, you know, he's rebellious and he's going to stand on business and whatever else he said. And then, you know, Tia, I just had to put that man strength on him and just show him like, yo, you're not there yet. Don't think that you can just warp my ass and you're not going to talk crazy to your mother

and you definitely not going to talk crazy. Telling your mother, you stand on. If my son ever looked me in my face and told me he stand on business, he would no longer be standing. I just don't know what that means for your mother. Well, that's the new open-ended phrase, period. It has no meaning. Yeah.

I stand on business. All right, what business do you stand on? Yeah, what's your LLC? And even if you're not talking about that, what business are you discussing here, sir? Yeah, and it's your mother and your father. What are you going to do? If you have any business, it's your mother and your father's business.

I hate when the internet just grabs a phrase. It happens every other year. And it has no meaning to it. It's just now the response to everything. Why in hip-hop is there the need to make it, if the whole point of life and the whole dream of the American dream is to start with nothing, create something, set a better future for your kids,

why is it when you succeed and TI has obviously done a great job with this as T as tiny to create a foundation for their kids why is there a need in hip hop to want to reverse all of that and make it look like you came from nothing what is that why do we want to deny the success of our parents to do it yeah that's the American dream

or the hip hop story the struggle yeah yeah but the the generation you were lucky your parents did it for you it's not to say here's a silver for silver spoon do nothing with it it's no now we gave you this great foundation. Take it and continue to build more of what we created for you already. We glorify.

If you want to be like, nah, I don't want. Because we glorify poverty and crime. That's what I was. Why do we do that? Why is that cool? I think that is,

none of you want to be broke. None of you want to miss payments. None of you want to have car notes. None of you want to live on welfare. Why do we glorify that shit? I think it's just, it just comes from a space of wanting to feel like you did something on your own. I think that it's just something.

Right. You know, you just want to be able to say, I did this. Like, you know what I'm saying? Like, I created this or I built this or I, you know, I set this life for myself. But it is stupid.

And I've, you know, to an extent, I was a victim of that. Like, I never, I tried to stray as far away from what my brothers were doing as much as I could. Like, I never wanted to be a part of that only because for the same reasons, I wanted to create my own kind of like lane and my own, like, path. But it's stupid because I should have absolutely leaned into. to those resources and those opportunities as much as possible. I think that's what it's for.

It's like if your family creates this, then naturally you should come up behind that and just add to what's already in place. We high five and celebrate family owned since 18. Right. Like that gets all the praise in the world. Right. When a dad, we're not even talking two generations. Right.

Dad pops off, has a successful business in this culture, gives it to their kid. Then it's like, well, yeah, he ain't worked for it though. Right. The fuck. You guys, you're high-fiving and clapping for the family that was been doing this for over 100 years. Why can't? I'm the first one. Let me do it.

Right. Okay, but on a lesser level, remember when Reddit called everybody nepo babies? Everyone came in here and defended themselves. It's not to the degree, I think, of what King is doing was like, we from streets and we stand on business. But you guys all defended yourself when people called you nepo babies. Well, because we're not. I'm not a nepo baby. Exactly.

See? Now you guys have some understanding of when people say that to you, you could be offended. But he's an actual nepo babies. It's offensive if you're not a temperament. You guys, you guys are missing. Y'all getting mad defensive. Hold on. They're proving my point, though.

I'm not comparing you guys to King right now. I'm saying, can you see the degree that when someone says maybe you got something that was given to you, you get a bit defensive? No, I understand that. If it's not true. I'm not comparing it to what King is going through. But I'm saying anyone gets a little offended when they know they've worked really hard when someone says you were given something.

Yeah. So, no, absolutely. That part is true. but I think it's weird when somebody says that about you and that's just not the case. Like, if you're not a nepo baby, you're not a nepo baby. And I'm not defending King in any way, but I don't know King's story.

Maybe his grandmother was in the bando and they only picked him up to shoot that show and he has no relationship with his parents. And he really is from there. That could be true. That could be true. He has no relationship with his parents. Why is he in the box with him at the Falcons game?

Because they're filming. They're not filming. He's 12. He was the only one filming. He was only one filming. Like that's cat. We talked about the Smith kids in particular, like Willow and Jaden. And obviously they were given plenty of opportunities.

Yeah, but that's different because I think that it, it's weird. It kind of hinders you a little bit when you're trying to do what your dad or somebody did at a high level. Yeah. Like Michael Jordan, when his sons were trying to play college ball, it's kind of like, it's kind of like, come on, bro, stop. But you know what I mean? Like, it's like that type of. So if. Should have transition.

If Tia has a son and his son is trying, which one of his kids do make music, I believe. Domani, he's dope. But it's still like, you know what I mean? It's kind of like, yeah, but you, your dad really has success. He really put out some dope albums and has some dope records. Like, you ain't really, it's tough. But now if you're just somebody that's coming up under, you know, T.I. has a bunch of businesses.

He has, you know, clothing brands. And now you're kind of creative director of a clothing brand, things like that. Absolutely. You should take those opportunities and try to, like, still keep the family business and grow it. But it's just tough when you're also doing what your mother or father actually did. If it's that public facing too, yeah. Yeah.

I mean, it could have to do with the last name, but I think a great example of it right now is Jimmy Henschman's son. Obviously, he was raised around the industry, but now he has ice spice. Like, he's carved Elaine. Everyone knows Jimmy Henshineman's son was around his father in the industry. But I don't think we look at Jimmy Hensman's son as some Nepo baby because he's. he now manages Ice Spice and has carved a lane in the industry. I don't think anyone looks at his son and goes,

he was given that. Yeah. Like he had opportunity that maybe somebody else didn't because of his father. But he did that shit on his own. He carved his own lane. It's not like he started working with his father's ex-clients or anything. He found a girl his age, his lane of music, and has now made a great career for himself.

There's ways you can do it. Do you think that people pay as much, attention to him? Do you think he gets the same meetings or the same, like even, do you think people take him as seriously if he isn't his son? I can't speak to that because I would take the meeting out of fear as well. No, but to Demaris this question, no, I think that it, it can go either way because his father, his name is not, you know, squeaky clean. A lot of people will probably want to stay away from it.

Especially right now. It could hinder him as well. It could make it there. It could hinder him. Waywhips, to be quite honest. But I just think that, I think that there is a thing in hip hop that we do have to get away from when it comes to the whole nepotism thing. And I feel like, oh, you only were able to, you know, land in this position because of your family and your relationship. Okay. Okay.

There's nothing wrong with that. I think that if your family worked hard and created a standard and now you're a kid or a child coming up through that family rank and now you're an adult and you fall in line. is what you want to do. You want to continue working in the family business. I mean, it's no different if your family owns an amazing bakery in the city. And now you are the manager at the bakery. Now, you run the bakery. It's the same thing. Like, this is what it's supposed to be. It's supposed to be my family handing this down. It's now my time to grow the family business as best as I can. Keep it going for the next generation that's coming up behind me. Only in hip hop, do we kind of look at that as a negative when it's like, oh, you was handed that. You didn't have

to work for that. Like, yeah, right. Like, I, me example, I went to private school most of my life growing up. As a kid, I didn't think that it was anything wrong with it. Was it all white people? No, it wasn't all white people. Shut up, Lori. According to Julian, it was all white. He thinks that Licekin Puerto Ricans are white.

But, um. Oh, wait a minute. Are they not? No. Not all of them. Some of them are. We'll have to do their 23. The mayor's to say yes.

Some of them, I mean, if their complexion is there, yes, they would be considered white, you know, for sure. Who? I'm not saying. Some people, say that's a fat Joe. Puerto Ricans? Have a blast. Sad Joe White.

Fat Joe doesn't, obviously I'm not talking about fat Joe. There's some Puerto Ricans. Shit, there's even some Dominicans who look white. Yes. There's, you can be a white Dominican. You can be a white Dominican, just like you can be an Afro-Dominican. Yes, you can be an Afro-Cuban. Yes.

That's a nationality. Okay, I understand that. I understand what you're saying. But I mean, no. Unless you're Nepo Cuban. I'm not going to go call Fat Joe White. No. No, fat Joe's not.

You should try, though. You should not. You should not. You should not. You should not. But yeah, only in hip hop do we kind of frown upon the whole nepotism thing. And I get it. Like I said, if your dad was, it's Jay-Z and then now you're trying to rap, it's going to be tough for you, kid.

Like, you know what I'm saying? We know who your dad was, like when he did. Those are pretty big shoes to follow behind. But your dad is Jay-Z, you can now run one of the companies that your dad created. You can now be a creative director in one of the clothing brands. Like, there's still ways where you can fall in line with the family business. But if you're trying to do exactly what your parents, did, it can't get a little. I mean, especially with

T.I. That's just to catch 22 of music. Like, we wanted to see Denzel's son act. Yeah. Acting, you're playing something else. I'm sure he has the hereditary talent or was schooled by his father. Of course we want to see Denzel's son act. Jay's son. Even the fact that

you say that, even the fact that you say that, that's a problem. Denzel's son. Because we should say his name. Exactly. Well, I've forgotten. That's the truth of it, though. And he goes by a different name because he doesn't want to be known as Denzel's son. So I'm sorry that I'm adding on to this, but I forgot his name. So someone correct.

See, you don't know his name. His last name is Washington. But doesn't, by acting doesn't... He goes by his name. John David. David. Yeah. Isn't there something where he like didn't want to be known?

John David Washington. Okay. Maybe I'm... But see, the fact that people say Denzel's son. Okay. But when I watch... When I watched the thing on Netflix with him and... Malcolm and Marie.

Yeah, the whole time I wasn't like, Denzel's son. I was like, this is a great actor. Now, to my point, if sir, JZ's son starts rapping, I'm going to click it because it's JZ son, but I don't know if I really want to hear that story because rap is supposed to be.

We know it's not authentic to who you are and you're supposed to tell us about you. I don't know if I'll care to hear that story on wax. That's the difference in why musicians and rappers get a different NEPO level than anything else, than the bakery, then the actor, then the business owner, then the manager, then the clothing line, the creative.

It's music. I don't know if I was, want to hear King's life story. But it's only in hip-hop. It's only in hip-hop. In R&B, if it's an, you know, Alex Isley. Yeah.

She comes from a family of legendary musicians and singers and songwriters. Her too. Her. You know, you have a bunch of Miley Cyrus. Her dad was, was he booed. The Jackson family is. Yeah, it's like, so it's only, only in the culture of hip-hop. Hip-hip-hop started as the authentic story of you coming from the bottom.

Of course, it's changed. Yeah. But even especially now, for King's peers, the story that's selling now is the ops. It's been in the block. Do we kill in everyone? We from the mud. It's even worse than what it probably was before.

Once the Cole era hit, I feel like maybe a Nepo kid could give us his college story and we'd like it if he was good at rapping. But it went back to street shit. And that's the times now. So King can't be like, give us a good melody about being raised in a gated community. Was it Michael Irvin who called out his son?

Yeah. Yeah. So that's the music now. So I do feel for those kids that want to get into the music industry because their passion maybe is music and they have the talent for it because their parents were talented at it and it was passed down. Nobody wants to hear King be like, yo, reality shows was crazy. Like the crafty table didn't have cheese hits. When I want, like. Pacifier was missing.

Yeah. Like that's not really going to work for his peers. The people he's trying to make music for want to hear about spinning the fucking block. only in our culture man it's so stupid it's so fucking dumb you want to go in reverse it's so dumb

but I mean you could go the rod wave route I mean I know that's more of the depressing thing and sometimes people don't want to hear that from a rich kid but there's other melodic ways I feel like but it seems like King and Michael Irving's son are into the drill shit into the stand-on business shit

so they have to convince themselves rap about luxury you had luxury your whole life nobody can rap about it better than you Rap about luxury. Yeah, but it is different from somebody like Ross because he actually came up from the bottom and created this lifestyle of luxury. When King is kind of like, yeah, you was born into lifestyle luxury.

Cool, rap about it, get your shit off. But it's like, nah. See, the thing is, King maybe should have started young. I think that's where it's a little easier, like the Little Romeo's. Like, you know, he came up in a life of luxury and money. He started making music very young. He had success. But the only catch 24 with that is, once you've been able to be able to be.

become a man and an adult, the fans kind of don't want to hear that no more. But let's not just put it to hip hop, though. Like, let's go with American Idol. We were just talking about Clay Aiken. If you watched American Idol or any one of those shows, they do the audition where the person smokes it,

and they already know that person is going to be picked so they cut right to the life story of someone dying of cancer. You've been homeless. That's just pretty. People want a story when it comes to entertainment. Of course, it's heightened with rap. It is the number one, want to background story. But don't act like

when it comes to selling artists and entertainment, they don't want the sob story. You have to be overcoming some shit. That helps. Ignoring within TI's family. We just said Domani, his other son is an artist and he's successful. He's doing well. He's far more successful than King. I don't even know King

rap. But Domani's not a drill rapper. He's not like a, I'm the greets guy. He's a cool, like, conscious. Yeah. He's like a talented musician and he does shows and he has good music. Like, in his family we're seeing an example of it so why does king that's the where i'm lost this obviously there's obviously something else deep because we just got a four-minute video on on

how you know there's something there's something deeper here there's something deeper here there's something you know private that we just am not privy to but i just i think that it just comes down to the main thing of you know when you grow up more fortunate than other kids from a hip-hop culture um it's it can be tough because again you You go to these schools, you're around peers that didn't have it as good as you do sometimes. Most of the times you are in school with kids that their parents are pretty well off. They have, you're in a good school district. You live in a good school zone area.

So you come from, you're around people that kind of had that. But then you'll find your way because there was times where I was hanging out with certain kids. And I'm like, what does his dad do? Like, and it's like his dad owns like Hugo Boss or something. I'm like, why is he hanging out with us? Like, why is this kid finding his way every week and to come kick him? it with us. Like, you should be doing some shit that we can't do. Like, because they're trying to find the identity outside of money. But that's, but that's a lot of people and they have

their only identity is money. It goes both ways. You can be very privileged and want to see what struggle was like. And maybe you want to see what, you know, growing up in the hood is like and hanging out with people that come from a less fortunate circumstance. You don't want to hang around people that are just at the golf club every weekend or people that are, you know, hanging out on the lake every weekend. Like, you want to know, okay, I want to see the things that my dad or my mom were talking about when they were making music when they were young, I want to see that. I want to experience that.

I want to know what that struggle is like. But at the same time, it's like people that are less fortunate are like, bro, you don't come over here. Like, it's bad over here. Like, we don't even know if the lights is going to be on tomorrow. Like, you know what I mean? You don't want to know what this struggle is like. But again, that only seems like it happens in the hip hop community and hip hop culture. I mean, I don't think R&B children are experiencing that.

They should just become a paroo. And then I feel like everything's okay. They was on Alabam. Also, I know 50 is sitting in this crib. Like, why did these guys keep giving me more material? 50 sent is the wrong person to have as an enemy, bro. He's the wrong person to have as an enemy. He's never going to let nothing go.

He's king. I thought Drake was King Petty. 50 is King Petty. You thought who was? Drake. I thought Drake was King Petty. For sure. Like, Drake has done some high-level petty shit.

He's done some, like, groundbreaking petty shit. but like 50 is like he doesn't have any boundaries he will make anything a joke anything and I'm here for it well to Rory's point Chris Brown has been gallivanting in Dubai with Kanye

Tide Dalai sign jerk gallivanting but you're supposed to gallivant in Dubai no yeah it's a land of galavan yeah yeah yeah you shit on some chest and just you know catch your shit on I don't know about that but okay that's what they do I mean that's the culture yeah

but I guess people were coming from because in the song vultures that recently came out Kanye has that line about not being anti-Semitic if I fuck Jewish women Such a terrible that logic definitely checks out and then Chris you know people were coming for Chris because he was out there too so he came to defend himself with this Instagram story Chris Brown says let me make this perfectly clear y'all uh y'all try to use me as a pawn I'm a paroo I ain't Muslim or Jewish that don't start no shit won't be no shit. I'm trying to be peaceful, but please do not wake up the demon in me. Go

on about your fucking day. Insha'a. Chris, I don't know if you want to put, I'm a pyru next to I ain't Muslim or Jewish. I feel like there's probably some Muslim pyrues as well. Oh, 100%. But it's just I understand what Chris

saying. Bottom line, leave me out of that shit. Like, I'm not no, I'm not disrespecting nobody. I'm not intending to disrespect nobody. He probably started seeing the heat coming down. People saying, oh, you over there party into that, that music and that line and this, that, and the third. It's, leave me out of that. I'm not a part of that.

I don't have nothing to do with that. You know, I'm not picking the side. I love everybody. I have fans from all over the world. Just leave me out of this bullshit. I think that was the jest of what Chris Brown was trying to say. I mean, I didn't see the backlash, but of course, we all live in our own bubbles respectfully. So I'm sure Chris saw his mentions and people from the Jewish community were very upset.

I didn't see anything where I felt like it may be warranted a reply because the whole world started talking about it. But Chris has every right to defend himself and reply. I just feel like with everything going on right now with thugs trial start, and we already see what is being brought into his trial in opening statements. Like, why would you say that? I just, why would you, like, I get it. Just take out the Pai Ruport. No, what?

I get what you're saying. Or what? I wouldn't know. And I'm not saying that. in your people, but why? Friday of your people. No, he definitely couldn't. And no, full respect to all

all by ruse. I'm not, I'm just saying why Chris, I have family that affiliates. I don't know how you properly say that, because I'm terrified too of the government in Rico. I just don't think that was the smartest thing to put on Instagram judging how these prosecutors

are moving right now. And how easy it is to just go through your funds to see where money went and you don't know what happens that money once that money sent i know chris isn't doing anything illegal but that's not how these these prosecutors are moving right now everything's trying to be ricode up i just think they're trying to find anyone that's funding the quote unquote fake riko that they're making up yeah but sometimes you just don't need to say anything i don't think that that warranted a response uh people are going to say what they want to say they see you party into a track and a line in the song that's just people picking

that like there were more people and so is everybody that was dancing in that club anti-semitic? Yeah so to, to Mal's point, this is the clip that people were reacting to. I guess this was the lines were caught in this clip and based on Chris's reaction, that's when people started slamming him. I don't think the, I don't think the song is anti-Semitic. I don't think Chris is anti-Semitic. I just think the song stinks. It's just a bad song. That's a whole different. Like I guess I could understand that there would be some outrage.

rage with the sensitive times and already how Jewish people feel about Kanye West, rightfully so. But it's just a shitty song. Yeah. That's the real crime here. Is Chris dancing to an awful song? But then again, I've admitted my contradictions. If I was in Dubai with Kanye and he wrapped that line, I'd probably laugh and dance to.

Yeah, it's hard not to. It's hard not to nod to. It's a hard not to nod. It's a shitty bar in a shitty song. But if I was with Kanye West in person at a club in Dubai, where you can piss and shit on people. Yeah, I'd probably laugh and about my head. Empty boughs.

I love the spark notes on that. Come on, man. What? He said, where you can't piss and shit on people. I mean, you have to add that little tidbit into that club. You think anything goes is what I'm saying. So if I'm shitting and pissing on someone in that part of the club, you think I'm going to be like, hey, Kanye, that bar you just did was a little over the line.

Would you do that pissing and shitting during, would that be a pregame activity or would that be post at the end of the night? I'm not shitting on nobody. Well, you were to. I cannot. Like, we've had this, we've had this conversation. I laugh too much.

There's no way I could do that. And it's just too fun. It's like, but preferentially, would you want to get it done early in the night? Post came. But post came.

Think about it. You're tired. You were dancing. You're rapping with Kanye. You're probably sweaty. Do you want to then? Perfect time for a shower. On a chest at like 4 a.m.

No, I'll probably go to Piss route at 4 a. Yeah. Same. Shower. Yeah. Piss would be great. Yeah, have the night of drinking partying. Gargle.

You got to release the valve in 1942. I just feel like one of the most upscale cities in the entire world has sufficient plumbing. So, you know, I'd probably just go over the toilet. Yeah, but what if her face is over the toilet? Ma'am, do you mind moving? You're going to be at the podium with a turtleneck and some glasses on one day. For what?

I've never been to Dubai. I've never been to Dubai. I don't do that shit. All right. Don't put that on me. not because you seem to be into the idea of it only at white private schools yeah well it's not when in rome thing when at the private school like say you went to Dubai and they even one of the women that does this frequently say it was already paid for they put it in your room

it's like going to Atlanta and the strippers already paid for and they're like do as you wish you don't like strippers that's how you end up you're not listening to it's paid for you're not seeking it out no no you're not listening so if it was paid for you do it if I went to the bathroom and this girl was like hey I'm here for you to be pee on me, I'd be like, I'd try it. There's no way. With a court stenographer right there typing all interaction. This is consensual. She asked for it.

Yeah, yeah, no. Two forms. Yeah. Two forms of ID. Passport license. Well, they can't drive out there. Passport. And then that's it. Good luck. Listen, good luck. When we tore out there next year. Some things are worth. The possible risk there, but

peeing on someone. That's a lot. That's a commitment. They get paid a lot. No, shitting on somebody is insane. No, I couldn't. I can't. I couldn't do that. That's wild.

Yeah, I don't know. Like when Biggie said that on that track, he was like, yeah, so I sit on the bitch. I'm like, Big, you're a heavy dude. You know, you squat it over a girl and shit on. That's like dropping a timbrel and something. You're crazy. It's like, yeah, come on the dumbbell on that.

Yeah, it's like, come on, big. We're not doing that. You can't shit on the girl. You can't do that. That's just absolutely fucking crazy. And there's no way big could like freehand squat either. Yeah, dude. You don't want to think my big doing a squat.

You're like, when you go to the ice rink, you need a bucket. You're like, Biggie doing a squat is like, that's crazy. Like, come on, man. We don't want to see that. Yeah. Anyways. Speaking of shitting on people, Tiana Taylor, everyone's favorite couple, Tiana Taylor and Imond Schumpert are splitting up and she's outing him,

calling him a jealous narcissist. Damn. What do you guys feel about it? This is black love falling apart. See, why you have to put it on that down? See? She came out. She came out and released this statement herself

and said that her relationship is none of your business. Those are private court documents that were leaked that said that. That was not what her... She'd stay leaking. How do those leak? Because TMZ is tapped in with everyone

that works with the police department, the court system. I got a friend that's a cop. TMZ is on his line every fucking day to just get police shit. Damn. It's a very common thing. It'll never change.

I think that's fucked up, though, that they do at private court documents about their private relationship that were leaked. I think that's really, really messed up. Yeah, it's corny. But at the same time, it is out. I mean, we know what's in it, what was said. But it is fucked up because I know Tiana does do a lot to try to keep that part of her life very private and very personal to, you know, herself in a circle. But unfortunately, you have platforms that, again, they have people in these places where they pay for these things and they pay to make these things public so that they can have a story in the headline to spin and push. But Tiana Taylor and Iman Shumpert, their business is out there now.

She filed for divorce claiming a bunch of things about him, him being a narcissist and amongst other things. I really don't have much to say about it only because, one, we wasn't supposed to know about the fucking filings of the divorce anyway. Two, Tiana is somebody that I know personally. but it's just you know I just think this is what sometimes happens with couples

they just file for divorce and you know whether it was because he's a narcissist or manipulative or jealous or whatever it's that's their business I don't think there was anything too crazy as far as like nothing physical or anything like that in there

I'm not sure I didn't read too much of it but other than that this is just sometimes what happens people fall in love they fall out of love as long as the kids are straight which I'm sure they are are and the family is good um you know sometimes you just are not meant to be together for whatever

reason uh demaris did you read the leaked court documents or some of them whatever the headlines no what i what i what i read was her response to it um i am seeing here that she would claim that he would text her like things and just kind of like just be rude to her and pick fights for no reason which i mean to me sounds like like regular breakup shit that happens in people's breakup's not down and I'm not saying that to downplay her situation because it is toxic and you know it's nothing that anybody should have to deal with but there's nothing of like to really push out and say oh imam's like a monster you know like there's nothing to villainize him it just seems like they just aren't meant to be together anymore well i passed because i wanted to get down to

the narcissistic part because i feel like in most breakups we don't have to make this specific to Tiana and Amman, but same buzzwords we were talking about with Sane it on business. I feel like the last few years, women took a hold of that word, narcissist,

and went crazy with it. It was just like when Lauren Hill taught you all reciprocity and you guys went crazy with it. Narcissist has been given to women. And it is just thrown up. Again, this is not a Tiana thing. I did want to know if you read it

to see if he is in fact a narcissist or just a man that was upset. it's saying that he didn't want her to work basically he didn't want her to work and she says she began to intentionally dim her light for her husband to try to have a harmonious and peaceful marriage y'all know that that does get old right

what we didn't do anything no go off on it listen I know it gets I got my show up my chest today no Dubai you can't do you can't misspeak anything see it's offensive when some guy with that fucking face starts talking about your reading. No, I'm with you. It's like I'm with you.

I'm totally with you. It was my fault. Well, if you guys don't have much on this topic, we can move on because I really don't have much outside of what I've read and it's their personal marriage. And like Ma said, I don't see anything with abuse or anything like that. It seemed like it was more focused on what the marriage said, him dimming her light. So she would say no to acting opportunities and recording gigs because he would fight. He would get it would be a jealousy factor.

So let's make it. personal. You guys are in the spotlight and have a likeness that obviously carries over into a relationship. I get my light all the time for a real. That's true. Yeah. So not your relationship with each other. It's because I'm so bright. Yeah. I get my lights all the time. Is it because of my skin come? Yes. I have either partners in the past, especially like the, you know, the more successful the podcast got and everything with the news happening. Did you ever feel like you couldn't do opportunities or had to say no to things? Not even like as a compromise. Like, oh, it's date night or something like that, but just

You're saying with Maul and I? Yeah, with a girl. Oh, I thought you meant like... No, not with the two of you, no. Obviously, it would help each other. Because we never miss a date. You would uplift each other. Yeah. I don't... I don't want to say that I have a dim to light. I don't...

Because sometimes when women say things, they are telling the truth, but I don't really fully understand what they're saying. Like, I don't know what dimming a light means. You know what the fuck? No, I don't know what dimming your light means. Like, if you really don't... And a girl was like, don't do that. I don't think you should do that. I have never stopped a woman from... Not you. I mean, for her to you.

Oh, to stop me from... You're the Tiana in this situation. But that doesn't often happen... Okay, I'm Tiana. That doesn't often happen with men. That's something that women usually complain about. If they're more successful than their partners, then sometimes they might feel the need to, like,

play down their accomplishments or downplay their accomplishments so that the man doesn't feel threatened because he's supposed to be the one garnering the attention and the money. I'm looking for a woman more successful than me. We know gold digger. Yeah. I am too. He's a gold digger.

Yeah. I got 17. Wait. I'm waiting. Yeah, that doesn't happen for men. He's trying to uplift her and get her to her light. Yeah. Like, we don't, we don't dim our light for our girl.

I don't even know if men can do that. Is that a man thing? Men can't do that, right? We can't dim our life. That's not hip a woman, right? Most we can do is like unfollow that bitch. That's us diming our light. And even then.

I wouldn't even know. How do you dim a woman's? Light in that regard. Don't take that gig. Is that what we're saying? I've never done that. That's essentially it. Tell a girl not to take a gig.

Rory, no, I never said that. You know, he was about it. I don't know who he talking to. Right? He can be bugging out.

He think I'm Clay. He still got me in my thing. He think I'm Clay. But I understand that you saying, you haven't done that, but you sit up there pretending that you don't know insecure men who do not feel comfortable

when their woman gets a lot of attention. I'm not going to sit up here and let you get that off. All right. define attention. Like not take that gig and don't wear that dress is different though. And I'm not, in reference to dimming light,

in reference to dimming light, if you have a fine girl and suddenly when you get with her, now you want to dress the bitch like a Cosby show member. No, that's different. No, no, no. That is dimming. If I don't want you to wear something that's like, your nipples are shown.

Cover the game. That's dimming her light. I'm not talking about that. Like, is that dimming her light? I'm not talking about that. Or I just don't want guys just. like gawking over you and feel like they could just approach you and just have a conversation because they're fucking horny.

I'm not talking about in extreme circumstances. I'm talking about men who try to control the amount of attention that their woman gets, dimming the light. I love women that get attention though. All right, well, what do you mean by attention? I guess that's what I was asking. Are you talking about attention, like comments on IG from like those creepy old men that live in India? That's not attention to me.

Yeah. What do you mean by attention? I'm talking about, I'm talking about if she's, she suddenly gets a name for herself. If she suddenly starts garnering followers on Instagram because of something she's doing for work or she becomes public facing or like

anything. See, and this is the shit that I'm talking about. Because why does she a netbo baby? Because if she's a nepo baby then I can't do it. I'm saying like if she pops off and gets becomes famous for cooking that's great. Like that's dope. But if she gets famous for like her ass clapping,

I'm like, all right, what are we doing here? Y'all keep bringing up sexual shit. I'm not talking. You can be have a following, but following doesn't universally mean. Let's take, let's take all of that out. Let's take away anything sexual. Nipples showing, clapping ass on Instagram. We're just talking about women being successful because they are able to be successful

in other things other than clapping their ass and showing the nipples. So women just being successful, they're, my bad. I didn't say that. I didn't know you can hear me. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Yeah, I'm sorry. Yeah, but what is she showing?

No, but I get what you saying. In this case, though, it is weird because T. I mean, has always had attention. Like, before she even got with Iman, she had attention. Most, but it's like that. Well, most women, though. But at that time, Iman was also successful in playing in the league, won NBA championship. He was like, okay, cool, you're doing your thing, but I'm also at the elite of mine.

But Imman, he just won't Dancing with the Stars. One of the biggest shows on television. Mobile, NBA Ring or Dancing with the Stars. Me? I don't want to dance with the Stars, baby. That could have been a... What? What?

Yeah, fuck that NBA Ring. That could have been a jealousy thing because we know Tiana to be a great dancer, choreographer, or maybe Amman thought, you know, she was dimming his light when he was dancing with the stars. I ain't even look at it like that. That's really what. And like maybe Tiana didn't do his choreography for his dancing with the stars, but she's over with, what was it, Summer? Summer Walker gets a whole choreography. And like, meanwhile, I'm over here with a little baby.

Yeah, and I get it, Amon. Oh, man. I don't want to joke about divorce. I'm not saying this in a condescending way. Prayers to everyone involved in that. because they, you know, kids and that whole situation. But, yeah, don't dim light out there. If your girl gets something, just be like,

yo, that's great. Yeah, it is. You have to support her. It's important for you to support your spouse. If I'm fully supportive in this newfound thing that she has, right? Am I also allowed to say, okay, here's what half of the bills look like? Mm. Because you're successful.

Like, you have income. You want to see income. Yeah. Not attention. Income. Income. Can I then, to not. Am I dimming your light with Con Ed?

By splitting rent. I pay mortgage. Oh. Okay. Rich. Rich baby daddy gang. Yeah. All right, Andy.

You got me a good deal. Call him envy is very funny. But I mean, even that's a conversation too because a lot of men can say they, oh, I want to split bills. Like, I want things evenly. I'm okay with my woman making more money than me. And then I would love that. There's a certain, like, if.

If I yell at you, then suddenly I'm not yelling at you because you deserve to be yelled at. I'm yelling at you because I think I'm better than you because I make more money than you. That's why I. So a lot of men are not, I'm not saying all, please. I'm not saying all, but a lot of men are uncomfortable with that dynamic. That's because society tells y'all that y'all that y'all should pay for everything and that y'all should make all the money. Society tells us that. Women don't know.

Women don't run the world. Men run the world. Men, well, Yon-A say otherwise. Men, men created this patriarchy. that y'all complain about. Y'all complain about the shit that men created. Women did not come out and say, oh, y'all should pay all the bills.

Men created that. Every time I over my phone, that's what women are saying to me. That's dead. That's what it says. Yes, but where do y'all think they got that from? Women do not run the world. Women do not create society and create societal rules.

The royal courts are by women. That's a matriarchy. All right. What about Oprah? That's a woman, too. Greta Thunberg, woman. Ellen? I mean, we can keep going.

AOC. Women do run the world. Mm. That's a fact. Hillary. That's a woman, too, yeah. Start naming women. Mawls Uber driving away here.

Rihanna has that makeup thing. Fenty? Doing pretty well, right? Okay. I mean, it depends what your definition is success is. Yeah, yeah. Skims. Yeah.

Do we have voicemails? You've got mail. Yeah, well, it's actually, this is perfect. It goes in line with this topic. It's about a boyfriend dimming girls' lap. Oh, look that. Really? Have a voicemail from a woman.

He dimmed. Oh, it's from a woman. Okay. Okay. This question is for everybody. I really want Moll's perspective, though, because my boyfriend is most like Maw, but all of of them are appreciated. And I apologize if it sounds fuzzy, I am calling y'all from the bathtub.

Long story short, I got my boots done in June. So obviously, I like to take pictures of my new boobs. I bought them. I like to look at them. I was showing my boyfriend. We do not live together. So I was showing him a photo of our doll because we do share a doll. Calling them dogs.

And he saw a bikini boot photo. So it was all booved, but I had a bikini on. He immediately starts questioning me, like, why don't you send that to me? Why did you take that? And I'm like, I meant to send it to you, but I didn't. But, like, I also like to take boo photos for myself. I like looking at these bitches. They look good.

Anyway, I understand him being upset, but he had the audacity, y'all, like, to ask me if I sent this photo to someone else. And that fucking killed me because in three years of us being together, I've never giving him a reason to question my loyalty. Like 24-7 he knows where I am, ten toes down in this relationship from day one. Definitely lying. So I just kind of want y'all's advice. Where do we go from here?

I know he's upset. I'm trying to give him space, but I didn't do anything wrong. And I don't like feeling like I did something wrong when I know I didn't. So all advice is appreciated. I fucking love you guys. Y'all need to come to New Orleans.

Roy, I promise your shit won't get stolen this time. Thanks. Wow. Thank you. Sounds like someone else. I think she should send a photo to us. Shout out to Jim. No.

I mean, I can understand why her boyfriend kind of was like, yo, like, what's this picture? Like, you didn't send this to me. Like, you know, if that's the thing that they do, like send each other pictures and things like that. Like, I could see where he's kind of like throwing off by it. But, I mean, I just think the simple answer is just have a real conversation. I'm like, though, I'm still mad about that.

Like, you know, like, I'm, like, I'm, There's nothing to worry about. Like, I'm not sending new pictures to another guy. I'm not sending pictures of my boobs to other other men. Like, also women send booed pictures of each other all the time. That too. Yeah. If I got new fake tits, I'm taking mad photos.

Yeah, understandable. Yeah. Like, if I got my balls done, I'm taking a photo. Think about that. For like 40 years, you've had the same thing. And then all of a sudden you just got boom. I'm showing them off. New balls.

But who are you showing them, too? Well, I'm just saying, well, to her, it would live on my camera roll, unless I have a significant other. and I wanted them to see them. But, like, I would hit all the angles. It sounds like they probably didn't have full conversations about her getting her boobs done to begin with.

And he's harboring some feelings. Oh, okay. She paid for them. That's her decision. It sounds like she just went and got him done, which is her right to do. And he probably feels away about it. He probably was like, yeah, go ahead.

Or it sounded good in theory to him. Yeah. But he didn't pay for him. I mean, I'm on her side on this. This is some corny. I think he was fine with it until, the pictures that he didn't have never seen before

I think he was fine with her getting a boob job But there should be a baseline trust in relationship You should know she's not gonna go send that To like some rando Yes unless she's acting brand new It should be it If I get new cities I'm acting brand new What does that mean?

Not to work my significant other But like yeah I have more confidence now And my confidence is gonna shine through You can have confidence What are you sending those pictures to? Right here Well she never said she was sending them And like she probably gets a new bathing suits, right?

Because she has new tits. Like, has to see what they look like. Right. Yeah, I think he's overthinking this one. Yeah, he is. How did we improve? Listen, I don't know what her boyfriend's name is. Just suck on the tits, man.

Just enjoy them. They may not be healed yet. That's true. Just enjoy them. But I heard when you, like in the wild, when animals are wounded, they lick to heal their wounds. Okay. So I think as a woman gets a boob job, I think you should lick. Oh.

The aquifer is probably better suited for. Yeah, I mean, I would probably. Make sure the nipples still work. I would consult with your doctor. first, but yeah, I see what you're trying to say. Yeah, make sure the nipples still have sensation. Sometimes you lose sensation after get a boob job. Really?

And the nipples? Yeah. Oh, damn. So a lot of girls like her nipples don't work no more. Damn. Damn, imagine how to show nipples? Yeah. That's pretty common, though, no? That nipples don't work?

After... Yeah. Boom jobs? Yeah. That's a thing. Yeah. You lose them. You'll sever a bunch of... Yeah, so sometimes the nerves just never come back and work in that area.

So I don't think we're giving any advice here. I would dump them. No, no, no, no, that's too. No. This is our, this is starting. Dump them. I think this is a red flag that you should pay attention to. Usually I'm not the person that says dump anyone.

Or red flag. That's not a red flag when you get new tits. And he's like, are you sending that photo to somebody? Like, never given a reason. The photo. It wasn't the tits. No, but I think, I think Rory's right. Like, he's harboring feelings from the fact that she got this job already.

It starts with the tits. He was like, oh, I'm okay with it. He wasn't. He didn't care if she was sending them when them shit was flat and deflated. But now that they're like, brand new. Now he cares. And they probably did a great job. He probably was looking like... Sounds like a good job. She's going to hit Bourbon

Street and then she's just going to be jumping to the beat of the saxophone over there. Yeah, some more beads and I. The trombone inside. More beads. Save you some money. You know the kids that play the drums on Bourbon Street on the buckets. You know the Tate's going to write to that beat. You go to Burb... You go to Burbank Street with your girl for Mardi Gras. She's allowed to show a tits.

No. Why would you ask me some stupid... Are you serious? What is she just got a new... Are you serious? See, Demaris. No, I mean, like... Women think that that's okay. What? It's Marty Gras.

Wait, what? If she's with you and you guys are like drunk and she like flashes her. Drunk, I'm going to jail. I'm fighting any nigga that's, any nigga that's throwing beads, I'm fighting. I was just surprised that Rory would be against it. I just didn't think that he would be against it. My girl?

Yeah. Like some joint I'm trying to fuck. Go ahead. I want to see the tities too. But like my girl, no. Better question. You're at Marty Grohl with your girl. She has no beat.

She leaves for 30 minutes. Come back. Neck full of beads. Mr. T style. How do you react? I'm back. It's just like, uh, gems actually. Yeah, fuck that.

Don't show your boobs on Bourbon Street. Send the photo on our Patreon. Of the boobs? I'm not, it's a bikini pic. I'm curious to see how offended. If it's just, you know, if it's just someone in the bikini. You're the only one that has access to it.

Well, give us it before and then and after. I want to see what improved. No, Jim has great boobs. Here, let's follow up. I'm still on Demaris's question. You think I'd be comfortable if a man was yelling at my girl. I never saw your tits. Well, I never said a...

Show your tits. I never set a man. Show your tits. For some beads? I never said a man. I didn't know that the... I've never been to New Orleans. I didn't know that the men were giving us beads.

I thought it was like girls. You know that's men for the most part. Oh, I didn't know that. I thought it would be like if it was like a float full of girls like and they were like... God, I wish. And like they flashed your girl. Your girl flashed them back. Like I didn't think that that would be something.

That sounds lit. That's not... Definitely not how it works though. Okay. Well, I didn't know that. But that's, that was the scenario in my mind. There's a lot of consent waivers that weekend in New Orleans. Yeah.

Yeah. They started this whole thing called Girls Gone Wild on it. Don't want my classic. I'm going to New Orleans next year for the first time. Nice. Show your tits. My brother's bachelor party. Oh, you're definitely going to show you.

Oh, yeah, you're definitely going to show your tits. Oh, yeah. Yeah. You can piss on someone in New Orleans. It's like Dubai. Tiffany has shit. Anyways, do we have one more? Yeah, let's do another one.

Oh, we can do. Let's give the people an update because we usually do all of our updates on Patreon, but let's do one here. So remember the woman who found out about her father, her biological father at the funeral? Yes, of course. She said, should I go? Yeah.

We had a difference of opinion. We're in by finding out. We have a follow-up. Yeah. Did she go? Hey, my favorite pod squad, it shall love again. Calling with an update about whether or not I went to the funeral situation, y'all. Funeral situation.

All right. So I didn't go to that thing. I didn't go. my original issue with battling with it in the first place was what Rory said. I did not want to go and make it about me. But I was also feeling like when Maw said too, like I really did want to get to know who my father was and who my siblings are. But I really realized like that might not be the best setting.

And if it's meant for us to get together and for me to know more about my father or and or my siblings, then I guess it's just it'll happen. It'll happen when it's going to happen. So I just, right now, I'm just leaving it alone, but I do appreciate you guys to answer my question, even though Rory said it was a dumb question. And on top of that, I've actually talked to you, Rory, at least four times this year alone on different occasions when you guys have a live or something like that. But you have a lot on your plate. Y'all are kicking ass in the podcast game right now.

So I understand. You know, you can't remember all your fans. So, but anyway, thanks again, guys. Love you guys. And happy holidays. Wait, I'm gonna see y'all December 1st, New York. Oh, shit. Hey.

Can't we see you guys live. That's our pre-related. No, I do remember. No, I do remember. As a kid, it doesn't know how to act. You went to the funeral? No, she didn't. I don't have a shape-up.

I haven't gotten a haircut in a little while. Oh. Just naturally. Looks great. You go on for the show? Yeah, I'll probably get a covers. So you'll be right by my apartment. Oh, my God.

No, in-house. A new guy. He's coming to see. He's coming to see. Coming to Jersey. I do remember her, despite what you guys think. That's why I wanted to give honest advice. That was dumb.

I get the feeling of wanting to go. I get that, but that would be dumb. Don't go to a funeral and be like, hey, no, you don't know me. But that's my dad, too. What's up? Yeah. Okay. Yeah, if it was my dad funeral, I'm liable to swing on you.

I'm not going to lie. 100%. Yeah, that's weird. But was that her dad? Yes. Her biological. Like, I just don't see the problem in that. Like, that was my dad.

She made the right move. I said maybe the repass I could kind of see. But going to the funeral, like, what are you going to do? Like, taps. You can go to the funeral. God, it's laying right there. I wouldn't say anything. I wouldn't say anything.

That's okay. Now, that's totally different. I'm not saying you have to get up at the podium at the funeral and be like, yo, you know, him and my mom's, it wasn't really on the same page. You ain't got to do all that. But you can go to the funeral. Give them some Corinthians. Yeah, you could pay your respects to you. That's your dad. You can pay your respects. Like, I would have went to the funeral. Pay my respects. Oh, no, no. I don't have to say, I don't have to speak at the funeral. We weren't saying she shouldn't just go to the funeral. She was suggesting going to the funeral to meet her family and tell them. I am who I am. Yeah. If she just went to go pay her respects and was quiet in a pew somewhere. No, of course. That's your father do that. But with the intentions to go there to say, hey, siblings, hey, everyone, I know you're grieving your father passing. But here, let me throw this on you at the.

funeral. Well, bam. That's crazy. I mean, it's crazy. That's death of the funeral shit. It is life, but it's not needed to do that. You can do that at another time. Man, I'm going. If it's my father, my father passed away, God forbid, I'm going to hit. But that wasn't your father because you don't know him. That was your sperm donor. You don't know him. You never met him. He didn't raise you. So your son

up here coming in and telling me the person who he did raise and who thought I knew everything about him. So I am now burying my father and you're going to come and tell me that my father was a dead he actually had a whole other child and I had no idea about this so my entire life was a lie you want to drop that on me on the worst day of my life

so like I said last week let's address the trauma and move past because it does happen we're going to do this right here we're going to do this right here no you can't tell me where to pay respects for my father that's not paying respect

pay your respects and silence why you got to come meet me I didn't say she I'm not saying she had to come meet the family and walk up to them and start having talking at the funeral but she should have went to the funeral that's what she said so not at the funeral

no but she go to you're going to to the funeral. Yeah. We're not against, if she wants to quietly go to the funeral, fine. Yeah, but now I wouldn't.

Her intentions were to talk to her siblings. At the, no, repass, yes. Have that conversation once the family gathered after the service. Maybe.

Not in the church or at the funeral. Hit me on a different day. Yeah. I don't know. Like, I've seen people bury their parents. You are in a whole other zone.

A whole other world. A whole other world. So please do not. Another day. Pick another fucking day. Honestly, another week. Another year. For 30-some years.

I don't need to know you right now today. I could wait another week or two. Okay. And if that happened to me, I would be like, all right, well, then pick up half this bill. Do you want to come to this fucking funeral that I'm paying for? His mortgage. You're my sister?

Oh, bet. Here you go. Here's the bill. You want to do this shit here. Yeah. It's fucking eight. It's like eight grand and minimum to bury somebody. Give me four grand then.

Yeah, pops was a rolling stone. What do you want me to do? I'm one of the stones. It happens. That would be a kid. You're liable to get kicked across the motherfucking pine. You come to me on the day of my father funeral. So go out.

I mean, I didn't know. I mean, it is what it is. I told my father the other day, actually that I think that he has another kid out there that we don't know about. Me and all my siblings think that. Why do you think that?

Nice. I don't know. We just feel it. We've always thought that there was like. We just feel it is crazy. We do. We always felt like there was a missing sibling like there aren't four. And what did your dad said to that?

He said, no, I think I saw her one time. He said, I think I saw her. Nice. Like he think he ran into her. He was like, I'm convinced that this girl's my daughter. He said, but she was with a white woman and that threw me off. But he was like, that might have been her babysitter. But yeah, he really thinks he has another child out there too.

He said he wouldn't be surprised. And I was like, I'm not going to go looking for him now because I don't want to split your will. So your dad, your dad believes he does have another kid. Yeah, he said he wouldn't be surprised. And he thinks he saw one. And he doesn't want to find out? No, I think he cool. He cool.

I think he's cool. Thinking you have another kid and you don't want to find out. But it's not like a specific woman. or a specific time and mind. It's on some like, out of all the shit I've done in my life, I wouldn't be surprised. Yeah, there's a difference. If there was another one out there.

Girls ask me, do I think, like, when I say I don't have any kids, they say, are you sure? I don't think you have. That's disrespectful to. Why? You have money. They came out. That's disrespectful.

Like, to say, are you sure? That's like. It could be young. Am I sure? Like, you may not be sure. You may not be sure. You're in contact with every woman you've ever slept with. He wears condoms.

Oh, but I'm just saying, like, a kid, though. I've had, if I've had sex with a woman and we were unprotected, like we were cool enough to if she got pregnant, I would know that she,

you know what I'm saying? Like, that's just crazy to me that you don't know if you have a kid out there. That's wild. When's the last time, when's the last time you shot the club up?

What day is it? Thanksgiving. It's crazy. It's been a while. Shoot the club up with Thanksgiving. That's what I'm saying. Full stomach? Chew the club up with a full stomach.

That's nasty. That's not. That's not. don't get pregnant. That's how they don't get pregnant. Is that how science works? It's too full. When there's turkey there. It's blocked. You got to come in a girl on an empty stomach. Yeah.

Get right to that. I've heard that. Right to that womb. It's like an empty gas tank. Or the lemonade from Panera bread. That's shit. Got Amara here. He on it right now. He on that charge it up right now. Use Cote Amara to get

20% on Panera bread. This is a sick-ass cover right here, though. New Patreon drop today. That is. You're listening. Very sick cover. Well, this was fun. Let's go right to Patreon, actually.

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Every Monday, new episode on Patreon. I'm getting sick. If you're on the $20 tier. Every Monday. Yeah. Every Mondays. Monday, Monday. Monday.

Who's everyone's plus one for the show? We'll talk about that on Patreon. That's a good Patreon topic, because I do want to know. I know, Julian, your parents are coming. No, no, but I have. But because your parents are coming, who's going to be the girl? You'll see. Oh.

It's different. Love it. And she's not black. We know that. Yeah, I'm gay now. Demaris, I'll save you, but the way you was talking last week. Oh. Yo, get out.

You so much. But it's Patreon. Thank you so much. On Patreon. On Patreon. Don't worry about it. But he better be in that green room. Buddy

Oh buddy Oh buddy Ain't in the green room They're making shit up Yeah They're making shit Who gonna be in that green room They're making shit up

No we ain't making shit up Who gonna be in that goddamn green room They're making shit up My sisters are actually Come in there So is a sister Always I don't got to meet the family Who's the nigga

That's who I want to know Who is the nigga I'm very much single See see what I'm saying Y'all just let her say anything want to know yome's plus one. Ooh. Yomi ain't got no pussy.

Wow. Yo. Wow. You got her fucked up. Wow. Yomi's like the only one of us in a loving relationship. Yomi, you're in a relationship? Yeah.

Since when? Like five years. I never knew that. Wait, what? I thought we had this conversation and Yomi was single like a few months ago. Like, she's not? It's Yomi. No, I thought you was single for the last year and a half.

Yomi has a very nice girlfriend. She's sweet. Really? Yeah. I've gone out with her as a girlfriend a few. me too that's crazy yo yom i thought you was single yo that's crazy is she coming on friday that's what you're saying no she's not she's not looking at d you see what she does and then you wonder why we should don't do it to me that's definitely not what i was saying she didn't she didn't scour the horrible decisions red it like ed and did yeah uh what what i what you did that i did it for what that's what i'm like what you got caught with in the SUV oh okay yeah that has a whole

He took an SUV right down the block. That was definitely from the horrible discord. Yeah, I did not know Yomi was in a relationship. I thought we had this talk and you said you were single. Never said it. Yeah. Let's not get her jammed up. Yeah, I try to get her in trouble.

Never said it. I've never heard Yomi speak that loud. Never said it. Never utter the word. Yeah, like, God damn, y'all my bet. Would you bring her to the show on Friday or is that, like, you don't want to cross those lines with work and. Don't do it. Bring her.

Okay. dope. Like what hours? What did she get off? What's her hours? It's crazy. Lay the doors. Yeah.

We can push the show. Yeah, we'll push. We'll push. We'll hit up Sunny Hall real quick. Ah, see y'all on Patreon. Peace. No, Warren, mouth. A win is a win.

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