New Rory & MAL - Episode 226 | The Tourette's Episode

Episode Date: December 15, 2023

We’re co-co-coming in hot today. Have you heard about the Tourette's girl on TikTok? Well we break down how we’d fare with the syndrome. We give our predictions for Kanye and Ty’s upcoming album.... Rory then airs out his grievances with Complex regarding their latest list. It’s personal and we know why. Kai Cenat invited Nicki into his latest stream. We discuss this and the state of hip-hop journalism. We’ve got an update regarding one of our favorite couples, Jonathan Major and the white woman. We also have an update on Meg, Tory and Pardi. It’s time for voicemails. We’ve got a fun relationship question that the guys can resonate with the most. Tune in as the guys discuss all of this + more! Side-note, our upcoming Patreon next Monday is one of the wildest episodes we’ve recorded. Follow The Team:  Rory - https://www.instagram.com/thisisrory/  Mal - https://www.instagram.com/mal_bytheway/  Eddin - https://www.instagram.com/thankyoueddin/  Julian - https://www.instagram.com/julian__nicholas/  Demaris - https://www.instagram.com/demarisagiscombe/  Merch: https://newrorynmal.com/  Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/newrorynmal  YouTube Subscribe: https://rb.gy/hk7up Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoicesSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:01:55 That was someone else's story. You see your friend? She can draw from his. You see your friend? That was crazy. Nick is telling on everybody. That record is fire. Nikki got off one day.
Starting point is 00:02:10 No, worry and my. Also get very evil people that would comment and say like, well, fuck yourself, Chris. Let your body mean it blam up your ass. Put on your own biscuit, fat ass. I couldn't agree more. The combo is crazy. I'm saying fuck you to Chris Cuomo. And I'd feel like people.
Starting point is 00:02:45 people should buy their own biscuits. Is that what she said? Mm-hmm. Buy your own biscuit, fat ass. Buddy your own biscuit, fat ass. You said, love baby weaners. I feel like that's a shot at, you know, the elites, the peto elites. Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 00:02:56 There is a deep dive in this. Yeah. Especially, I didn't know Chris Cuomo was allowed back on TV. What network is this? News Nation. You know. Come on. You know.
Starting point is 00:03:07 What channel is that? When you get the news on. N-squared. Yeah. They got the Cuomo's the fuck out of here quick. This clip was hilarious. I'm sorry. I don't know if we're allowed to say that.
Starting point is 00:03:15 Dude, she's fucking funny. She's a social media star. You think that people are not laughing at her on social media? I suppose. She's bringing awareness to Tourette's, which I understand. What's her full name? So just don't keep calling her like the Tourette's girl. Her name's Baylon.
Starting point is 00:03:26 I'm Googling Tourette girl. How good. I didn't come up though. Balin DuPree. Yes. Bringing a lot of awareness to Tourette's and for the Tourette's community. She's leading the charge, which I think is important. But it doesn't mean it's not some of the funniest shit I've seen in the past week.
Starting point is 00:03:43 Fair. No, it's hilarious. Yeah. And I feel like Tourette's like a, it's almost like a cheat coat. Come on, analyze it. It's like a cheat coat. Dr. Moore. Like, imagine if I, if I could just like blur out like, you can.
Starting point is 00:03:54 Go ahead. I mean, it's different for, it's different for black men. You can't do it. Black men can't have Tourette's. That's, okay. So I told them all my theory earlier, which was I've never seen it. I've only seen white people have Tourette's. I've never seen a black person, Asian person.
Starting point is 00:04:08 Black people, we can't, we don't have that luxury. So you have a Tourette's a luxury. It is luxury. Being able to just blurt out like little. weaner, buddy-owned biscuits, like in the middle of somebody just, like, just having a conversation. Like, black people don't have that privilege. I mean, I've seen
Starting point is 00:04:22 like some crackheads every now and then. That doesn't mean they have Tourette's. That's not true. That's crack. But, I mean, I've seen, like, it hasn't ended with violence because I do agree with you. It would be dangerous for a black person to have Tourette's when, like, the police were around. It's like that would be. Fuck you, you're fucking little baby,
Starting point is 00:04:38 you get shot immediately? Yeah, like, just shake the Tourette's out of you? But can they cancel her? Because it did sound like she put on somewhat of a black causeplay voice. Yeah, one of them. That was funny as hell. What did she say in the middle of the little weiner? Fuck you Chris. Buddy your own biscuit, fat ass. I didn't hear
Starting point is 00:04:54 her, but I know what you're talking about. And I think, so if I'm not mistaken, some of these tics come from like things that she's heard. So if you hear a TikTok, because at one point she was doing this one TikTok, that was like one of her ticks. So if that TikTok becomes lodging your brain, it can become like a
Starting point is 00:05:10 ticks. Do you imagine if she was in the middle of a TikTok and she's smoking it? She's about to go viral. And then in it, at some point, she subconsciously just drops a hard art. Yeah, the hard art. Well, that's what I was going to ask, Maude,
Starting point is 00:05:20 I'm going to edit it out. Next, like, is she forgivable and maybe some of the things she consumes and then Tourette's out? I think she could say it. Like, you think she's adding flair to it? I think that she can... She did the Popeyes lady spot on in here.
Starting point is 00:05:34 See, but yeah, but that's, see, that's why this Tourette's thing is interesting because... Again, I've only seen white people do this. Right. And she can blur out whatever, you know, it's Tourette's, like, cool. But I think that even Tourette's know with certain words she can't say.
Starting point is 00:05:46 No. Even Tourette's is socially conscious? You cannot say that. So it could be similar when I told you guys I thought my grandmother was like half faking it
Starting point is 00:05:54 when she had Alzheimer's. Maybe like with Tourette's, it is true, but they slip in some things that they've just been really wanting to say. Yeah, maybe. Got you. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:03 But it's like a neurochemical abnormality, which I don't think neurochemicals are aware of what racism is. Her chemicals, mate. So like DeMera said if she had Tourette's, she'd be worried because she would say some shit
Starting point is 00:06:15 that would get her fucked up. Did you say that? Yeah. I would say some really wild. My brain is wildly. Like, what would you say right now? Wait. We just let Julian get that off.
Starting point is 00:06:26 What do you say? You think her brain just has, like, racist blockers? Like, what do you talk? She can't be racist because she has Tourette's? No, I'm saying. I'm saying you said she's probably never said the hard R or something that could get canceled. I don't know. I don't believe that.
Starting point is 00:06:40 I don't know. I don't really that. I don't know. I'm not just putting that out there. So. I'm saying, I don't think because neurologically, we're not predisposed to not be racist. You're predisposed to just say whatever you want. We have the social constructs that make us not say certain things.
Starting point is 00:06:55 But in her case, where her mind is just doing whatever the fuck it wants, I'm amazed that she doesn't just drop the most egregious shit of all time. That's what I'm saying. She has some control. It's not like she didn't just curse the entire interview. No, I know. She had her tics like moments, but she was getting off a real point, a real articulate point that she. that she has been living with for quite some time. So you think that person can't see racism?
Starting point is 00:07:20 We need to have someone with turrets on the show. I'm not saying she can't see racism. I'm saying I'm surprised the Tourette's don't manifest ever with like the hard are. The hard are like an Asian slur or like anything. That's like really offensive. Saying fuck you, Chris, is hilarious. Yeah. Little baby weaners, everyone thinks that's fucking.
Starting point is 00:07:35 But that's why Chris, but that's even why Chris said he thinks that's amazing. Fake. He thinks that she's faking it. Like he doesn't think it's real. If you mean it, go blackface. Well, I don't know if Chris was saying that. I think what he was trying to say is on social media, though,
Starting point is 00:07:48 you never really know who's being for real and who's not or just doing something for the moment. She could be acting. Like the same other girl that, that y'all love, that does the emoji thing. Demaris did it for a while. Oh, you're talking about the AI shit? That's a former Tourette's, in my opinion, that they're faking. No, no, no. No, I'm wait.
Starting point is 00:08:06 I'm worried. That's a stuff, John. Do it real quick. That's like independent. The pinkie doll shit. Ice cream is so good. but it's not Tourette's You're your figure
Starting point is 00:08:14 cosplaying Tourette's No, I'm not because Tourette's unprovoked She's every time Like she's being prompted That's the whole point Is people are saying her prompts She's getting paid to do that
Starting point is 00:08:25 She's not getting paid to get to retops She's getting paid She might be getting Social media store What was that girl's name? Pinky doll Pinky doll Yeah
Starting point is 00:08:31 Her and a Pinky doll Collab would be crazy That would be kind of fine-h Oh Tirets on that shit Is fucking hell Oh little baby winner So good Also just to pull up you guys
Starting point is 00:08:40 This point About what she said about blacks not having Tourette's. Tourette syndrome occurs in three out of every thousand school-age children. White women. And is more than twice as common in white kids as it is blacks or Hispanics. I've never seen a black person. You know how white people?
Starting point is 00:08:55 So like, I feel like if you're mixing family. The neurochemicals will. Yeah, you're more like Neanderthal. Damn, I thought a little more primitive. I thought Tourette's was just for us. I thought it was our sickle cell. No, y'all could have it. That's your super power.
Starting point is 00:09:08 I love to say that. I'm sorry. I was going to say, don't make fun of sickle cell. I wasn't making fun. fun of it. It felt fun. Blacks, blacks do have sickle cell on lock, though. That's our too. On lock is crazy. It's specific to people with melanin.
Starting point is 00:09:19 Like, whites can't really get it. Would you say about watermelon? I didn't say it. Welcome to a new episode of the new Rory and Moll podcast. I am Moll. I'm Rory. And we are back. I don't know where this is going. I feel like I'm being set up.
Starting point is 00:09:34 Is Moll's Tourette's that crazy? That's crazy? Kind of. That could be your tick. Yeah, I wish I had to it. Dropping money bags is your Twitch. I wish I had time. That's my tick. Yeah, that's your tip.
Starting point is 00:09:43 Edon, like, taps his foot. Yeah. That's my tip with your thumb. That's my tip. Yeah. Well, Yomi, you engineered a podcast with that young lady, right? Yeah. And she cuss you out.
Starting point is 00:09:53 She said it's real. He said it's real. Yeah. Did she give you the finger? Because that was my favorite part outside of the obvious. She just gave Chris Grumma the finger. Fuck you, Connor. Fuck you, Connor.
Starting point is 00:10:03 Was Connor her ex or something? Yeah, Conner's her ex. And she would randomly say, fuck you Connor. Oh, so whatever mood she's in. I like that moment, it kind of triggers what. what she says. Wind it up. Wind it up.
Starting point is 00:10:15 Because it's still coming from her brain. Oh, so that's interesting. So I thought that fuck you tick came from who she was speaking to. But Connor, that was a previous experience that she felt some resentment towards.
Starting point is 00:10:26 She really must hate Chris Cuomo. She just doesn't like Chris Cuomo. Yeah, no. So she said what most of America wanted to say to clear. I thought she just said, like, if I were speaking to her, she'd be like,
Starting point is 00:10:34 fuck you, Rory. Now that I know it comes from a certain place, I want to know why she hates Chris Cuomo. She might still say fuck you Rory though. That's true. It is kind of cool. I would take it a badge of honor.
Starting point is 00:10:42 That her Tourette's situational and can adapt to the current conversation that she's in. Yeah. That seems like that's evolution. Well, that's your brain, though. Your brain works like that. Your tics are coming from your brain. So if your brain is changing and constantly receiving new information, then your tics will change. She's not going to have the same tics around her life.
Starting point is 00:10:59 It's like a timeline. Like a Twitter feed. What's trending? Fuck whatever's trending. I mean, I think it's great that she's bringing awareness. Awareness to what it is because it's not super common. He just don't run into people with Tourette's, but it is nice to know that you can get information for her
Starting point is 00:11:15 and know how to deal with it. Because I wouldn't know what to do if someone just started cursing me out. My first thought wouldn't be like, oh, Tourette's. It's okay. Depends how they do it, though. I mean, I would probably... When you grow up in certain neighborhoods,
Starting point is 00:11:27 though, you're used to people just cursing it in no reason, though. Yeah. And, like, I remember people with, like, I don't know if it was mild Tourette's, but, like, weird tics. You know, like, the weird kid in school. Yeah. We shouldn't call them that now, but you know the kid I'm talking about.
Starting point is 00:11:39 Absolutely. popped up right in your brain immediately. Absolutely. I would like to know how to deal with that kid. Because the first thing kids are going to do when they don't know is to bully. That's like just the nature of children. So I think this is good. Did you have a bully anybody in school grown up?
Starting point is 00:11:52 I was very anti-bullied. What do you mean? Like I was very like if I saw other people getting bullied, like I would like step in. I hate it. Hey, stop it. I don't think I was. Oh, you that's the person you were, hey, don't do that? You're like those old Hillary Duff commercial.
Starting point is 00:12:04 No, it was more like why to fuck you pick it on them? You a bitch. Why you pick it up somebody smaller and you fucking corn? It was more like that. Yes. Does I not bully them? Yeah, I was going to say. Well, I mean, that is kind of what, that's not a bad response.
Starting point is 00:12:15 I don't like, I don't like bullies. I know, I'd never like that. I never bullied nobody, but I did, like, I slapped a kid one time and I felt bad after that. So I didn't have your money on time? No, Rory. We established this last episode. You had a Detroit Red Faith. No, you know what it was?
Starting point is 00:12:30 He, my friend of mine was trying, was getting ready to fight him. But they was, like, stalling, like, like, we was like in the, we was like in a patient. Yeah, and I'm like, yo, because, you know, You got, the bell is about the ring. We got to go to class. Yeah, so, like, if y'all going to fight, like, let's fight real quick. You know, fights is quick. Fights is the last 30 seconds.
Starting point is 00:12:48 Yeah. That's it. So they were sitting there just looking at each other's stairs. So I'm like, yo, go ahead. Like, fight. Like, he was both standing there. It's like a couple of us, like in a circle or whatever. And they wasn't doing that.
Starting point is 00:12:59 So I just slapped the kid. Is that deemed a sucker punch or a sucker slap? Kind of. 100%. I was a sucker for that. I have a question for you guys. Just really quick on the Tourette's thing. If you could take a pill.
Starting point is 00:13:10 that would either it's a 50-50 chance. You get $5 million or for the rest of your life you have Tourette's. Would you take it? No. You take a pill. Wait,
Starting point is 00:13:20 do I get the shoes? Or that's just like, we don't know what's going to happen. You don't know what's going to happen. You take it. You either you wake up the next morning, you check your bank, $5 million or you wake up and start to cost to the air.
Starting point is 00:13:30 Five. Or Tourette's? Five? No, I need more than five. To possibly have Tourette's? I need more than five. And what type of Tourette's are we talking? Hers.
Starting point is 00:13:38 You can go viral. That's a bag right. I mean, she's got the lane monopolized. If I step in, it looks like I'm biting. A little bit, yeah. Yeah, and if I'm black with Tourette's or social media. There's no black, like, there's no man doing this. I can replace Connor.
Starting point is 00:13:52 Because you know Connor had the tets. Yeah. Connor who? Her ex boy. Her ex. And if he didn't, Connor's, Connor's a little creepy. See, that lane.
Starting point is 00:14:04 Why is he creepy? I'm sorry. He's not like the guy that was dating that chick that stopped developing, like the eight-year-old. So again, now you think. think people with Tourette's can date normal. She can have normal conversation. Yeah, but like if Tourette's triggered by whatever's on your mind at the moment, like, what if she's horny? Now we all know about Tourette's.
Starting point is 00:14:19 You probably heard dirty talk. But like we outside, like we in, we shopping though. Like, we outside like at the Apple store or something. And she gets horny. Yeah. And she's like, put your cock in my ass. And it's like wait a bit. Hose. What? All right. Never mind. If Yomi starts saying, Ma, like, wait, how was that too far off what she was saying to Chris Cuomo? True. But because I'm black and I say, you see how it comes out little,
Starting point is 00:14:43 things differently. And I see Demaris try to flip my words, even though I said them directly and called Connor weird. There's not something, I don't say it's about being offensive. That wouldn't be a little weird. You wouldn't like kind of question that kid just, not in a bad way,
Starting point is 00:14:59 like there's anything really wrong with her, but just like, how did, like, how did y'all get to that point? He just deals with it. I don't know. I mean, she's cute. Julian has fucking Tourette's. We sit up here and listen to him, spew the most random shit
Starting point is 00:15:12 out of his fucking mouth every single day. And you still are friends with him and hired him more than once. I mean, doing red pill, blue pill with Tourette's or $5 million is kind of a Tourette's question and itself. $10 million. His Tourette's got his violent.
Starting point is 00:15:24 I'd flip the coin. Yeah. I'm flipping it. Because like pretty much, yeah, to Demarice's point, I pretty much live my life. With Tourette's. We ain't talk about Baby D outfit today, though.
Starting point is 00:15:34 I didn't even keep in. I said something. Wow. It's so funny. The way you're male friends, the way your male friends. You know what it is. Pat and leather. Pat and leather. Pat and leather.
Starting point is 00:15:44 Wow. I remember that. Uh-huh. You know what it is. Everything she do. She do it, big. Yeah. Uh-huh.
Starting point is 00:15:51 Pat and leather. Pat and leather. You got the patent leather skirt and the patent leather booties on. Where are you going after work? And the full face of makeup already. Where are you going? I just want to know where you're going. You know, I just like to know where you at.
Starting point is 00:16:03 Traveling from Jersey in that outfit is crazy. The real question is what underneath the crew neck? Because you know she's high. the rest of the fit. I did all of this guy for you guys. Shut the fuck. You got panties on?
Starting point is 00:16:13 What the fuck? See, you can't do that. No, that's not. Yomi. I would ask any of my female friends that. I got Tourette's. No, that was Tourette's.
Starting point is 00:16:20 My bad. My bad. Yo, your money bag shit on the low might be social media Tourette. That was Tourette. That was Tourette. That's OCD. My bad.
Starting point is 00:16:30 That was the rest. That was the wrette. That was the wrette. That was the wrette. That was the wrette. Yeah, that was the retch jumping out. I ain't. to me.
Starting point is 00:16:34 I'm definitely about to start calling Tourette. Yeah, that was Tourette. That was a big touch. If they take me to age, I was like, y'all, like, y'all got Tourette's, man.
Starting point is 00:16:40 What do you want me to do? Like, you know what I mean? It should just happen sometimes. I don't know. Oh. That was your, er. I don't know, Tourette's.
Starting point is 00:16:49 Relax, little wrettes. Trette. Yeah. Oh, man. Anyways, I don't know if that anything we just did was offensive.
Starting point is 00:17:01 If I apologize. It probably. No, who gives a fuck. We have a pure heart. They're not cancer that rapists. We'll be fine. That's a good point. Come on here.
Starting point is 00:17:08 Rapists are still getting booked for shows and shit. Of course. Yeah. I mean, you could do a whole show in a KKK hood. That seems to be chill these days. That was fire. Oh, God. For those that don't know, Kanye and Ty.
Starting point is 00:17:20 Oh, they know. Performed their album in Miami. With some friends and guests that are on the album. And halfway through the show, Kanye did a little fit change as most, as most pop stars do. It was late. The dry cleaners. He had on a glass.
Starting point is 00:17:33 He looked fine. He was outfit change. Maybe he got a little cold in Miami. Tourette's. He, I mean. That's Kanye's Tourette's going to KKK hood. George Bush doesn't care about Black. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:44 See, there you go. Do we, I didn't get KKK vibes off that from Rip. I got more like demonic devil Illuminati. Did you see the pointy hood? Yeah, but if it was a white pointy hood, I would have been like, oh, that's a KKK alpha. No, but see. This is more like Undertaker Illumina.
Starting point is 00:18:03 shitty shit to me. Did you see the pointy hood? Listen, it's reverse Coo Cuckooke's Klan. That's what he's trying to to tell y'all. It's we not killing black people. We killing white people. Run. That's right. That's what he was going. I did a very one quick Google search and there were black hooded knights in the KKK.
Starting point is 00:18:24 They were higher in rank. The black hoods were known as the what was it? The word was the night hawks and they were often the security position in the KKK. So they were protecting the white manned and evil. He was doubling his talent insured. Nighthawk, vulture. Well, I already saw it.
Starting point is 00:18:41 It's like the death row logo to me. They did a breakdown on the album cover art and they tied it to some Nazi symbolism or something. I don't know. I saw that some merch he had on in Miami too was like the old German army logo or something. I mean, everything that's people are reacting to is the purpose of why Kanye. is doing it. I don't think Kanye was wearing that because he's a big history buff and loved that German army at that time. This is just to get people to react. What if North styled him? But see, Roy, when you say just to get people to react, Kanye, him just, you know, previewing his new
Starting point is 00:19:20 music and having people on stage, performance, that's enough to get people to react. I don't, like, things like this, to me, it takes away from the music. But that's a, that's been Kanye's thing forever. of course he could just play the music and we would all listen but for his whole career he adds things to it he makes it an entire thing like for sure that's that's that's this is not a new thing for yay the symbolism that he's picking maybe a tiny bit different but yeah even during the yeas time was using this type of imagery oh yeah like this isn't for the black skin head for yeah the black skinhead stuff all that it's not this is not new for conier this is just the the latest Kanye that that we're getting right now um we're we're we're
Starting point is 00:20:02 recording this on December 14th on a Thursday, if you're listening to this first day audio release, do we think the album's out? Yes. Probably, yeah. They said December 15th, these sounded like, I mean,
Starting point is 00:20:15 we know Kanye wears down to the last, last possible fucking minute, but these records sound like they're in a pretty good place from what they performed. Yeah. I think the album's definitely out. People were speculating, though, because I guess Vultures was taken off Apple Music
Starting point is 00:20:26 at some point earlier today. Okay. The pre-order? Yeah. which doesn't necessarily mean it's not coming out. It could have just been like a ISRC issue or something with the fingerprint on the back end. Or Apple made him change the cover art?
Starting point is 00:20:42 The cover art was just that Y and the S though. Oh, okay. As far as I know. But I don't know. I don't think it'll come out. Me neither. Well, I posed a question to y'all. I asked if Kanye was canceled,
Starting point is 00:20:53 how come they cleared that Backstreet Boy sample. And obviously the sample was not cleared, so the song is not on the album. So maybe he is canceled. I mean, does that mean it's not going to go up? I could see it being taken down from streaming, but I still think Kanye is going to... I just looked that up now.
Starting point is 00:21:10 That record out. Yeah, no. I think the Backstreet Boys record? Yeah. I mean, in the track list they put out, I think that was the intro. Yeah. Is it?
Starting point is 00:21:20 Which is a sick intro. Yeah. I mean, I guess I don't know where else it would fit in the album. I would think maybe last, but starting your album out with Ty Dahlia and Charlie Wilson singing Backstreet Boys with no drums. is fucking hilarious. I did like the,
Starting point is 00:21:34 the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the,
Starting point is 00:21:37 uh, I thought Freddie was doing some, some really good, well, Freddy's, he's a, we,
Starting point is 00:21:44 Freddie, we don't talk about Freddy's run from 2018. I mean, it's pretty much, every album, Freddie gives his drop
Starting point is 00:21:50 since 2018 has been a really dope fucking project. Yeah, and he's been regarded I know Freddie, people, the rap album of the year, anytime he really puts anything out.
Starting point is 00:21:58 I know, top people, know, know Freddy for his online antics and things like, that. But when we just look at Freddie Gibbs, the rap of the artist and the albums that he's put out, Freddie has a great catalog. Here's why I like seeing Freddie Gibbs on stage. I like the verse, of course, that they previewed. But to me, that means Freddie probably wrote a lot on this album for Kanye. Anytime he has a rapper around him, they're usually writing for him. We know
Starting point is 00:22:22 Sahai is one of his best ghost writers. But Freddie, outside of being a great rapper, is an amazing troll and does a lot of shock value shit. So I think him writing for Kanye outside of just good bars is going to be the perfect channel to troll and say some wild shit. I think this was the perfect time for Freddie Gibbs and Kanye to collab
Starting point is 00:22:43 on the album when it comes to writing. I think it's dope to see our Quint Miller's on the album as well. Shout out to Q Miller. Another one of our guys that we support and we think it's super talented and super dope. So it's good to see him on the On the Yeh album. Do we think
Starting point is 00:22:58 this is an album of the year contender as we are recording this. No. Is this going to be a top 50 album of 2023 according to fucking bum-ass complex? I mean, according to Tompillar. That's right there, babe. That was correct.
Starting point is 00:23:14 Roy's tets. Fuck sneaker shopping. Yeah. Wow. I fucking hate hot ones. Sorry, Sean. No, I'll get it all out. It's okay.
Starting point is 00:23:21 I love Sean. Sean's awesome. Sean's awesome. Sean's awesome. With that said, though, I want to pretend like I don't care, but I do. I know. About what?
Starting point is 00:23:33 You bet. Complex today put out their top 50 lists of albums of 2023. And a bunch of other lists have came out, and I didn't particularly care at all. I will be honest, I was waiting for the complex one. And that was the only one that I did care about. And it's not even like because I regard complex and some fucking, I don't have a complex for complex. Was that too? Should put that on the album.
Starting point is 00:23:56 Soft the don't. Okay. trying to differentiate when your Tourette's is acting up or not. Having freestyle Tourette would be the most annoying thing. It just breaks into rap. Some of these rappers have that. But Complex, too, it's like, I don't want to compare Complex to Grammys at all, but they are the List people. And even if we don't care about Grammys, it's still nice to be nominated.
Starting point is 00:24:16 And Complex being the List inventors of the Internet. It's that time of year. It's the list time. It's List season. They've been in the list season. That are nice. So this Complex is list season. this is their albums of the year.
Starting point is 00:24:30 And they do 50. Yes. And it's all genres, but they're going to do hip hop and R.B. I just out of 50. Yeah. You think you should have been there out of 50? Little Teca has a better album than me. Complex is never going to nominate you, and you know why.
Starting point is 00:24:47 Because you're white. Yeah. No, Al's in there. Kareisha doesn't have an album on this top 50, right? Hell no. Maybe. Is she number seven? She might be.
Starting point is 00:24:58 Y'all, if that was in there, I'd be surprised. Do we think it's personal at this point? They leave me off every list that I could possibly be on when I deserve to be on. I'm not even being funny, but why would it be personal? Why would complex have a personal issue with you? Who do you piss off in the company? Because they have alliances with people that dislike me. And I'm not saying the obvious because we don't sense here.
Starting point is 00:25:17 It's not a Joe thing. I think it's a Joe's team thing. I don't think in any world, Joe is going to complex the same Black Bowl. I'm not saying that. I'm not dumb. But I think the alliance with people on his team have left us off shit, have left me off this this year. And y'all call me narcissistic and crazy, but I've spoken to people who are fucking complex and I know it's fucking true. So that be—
Starting point is 00:25:38 I'm not pulling this out of my ass and doing a conspiracy theory. I have spoken to people at complex that have told me directly multiple people at separate times. It didn't even know I talked to two different people gave me the same story of why we were left off that media list. Yikes. And why I was left off this list. Oh, I got that media story too. Because it was, it was supposed to be in this. One number.
Starting point is 00:26:02 I don't know. One. Well, let me, it was supposed to be me and Gunna. Well, let me, let me, let me, let me be very clear, Rortary. You do have. And my bad, little tech, I didn't need me to bring you in it. Yeah, you didn't have to give him. It was like while they brought in a juicy J for no reason.
Starting point is 00:26:15 Juicy J had an incredible album, Wallach. Well, you like Juicy J, you also had an incredible album as well. In my, in my humble opinion, you definitely have at least the top 50 album of the year for sure. That's another thing. They put Sampa's album at 40 fucking seven. All is trying to give you flowers and love. No, no, no, but this is, no. I don't know how to take flowers.
Starting point is 00:26:34 But this is, but to a bigger conversation, this is why I really don't get worked up about lists. Because even when they put the list out, the number is going to be kind of like, yo, this person number 37, this person number 22. We're going to do that. So it's like, I really don't care about lists. I don't know why people care about lists. You know you had a top 50 album. People know you had a top 50 album. I understand what it does for your album as far as the optics when they put you on these lists and things like that.
Starting point is 00:27:03 I get all of that. But at the end of the day, once you hit Refresh tomorrow, who gives a fuck about these lists? You are right, and I agree 100% with you. I have been doing the angry list thing like on Twitter and shit. More is a joke. It really does not affect me. What does affect me and where this anger actually stems from is not because I'm not on the list. because I know why.
Starting point is 00:27:27 That's where my angle. I know how incredible that project is and this is somebody's taste. There's plenty of people in the world that think all 50 of these albums are drastically better than mine. And that's fine because that's music. It should be judged.
Starting point is 00:27:41 It's a pallet. It's like food. You can't really judge what's the best. It's whatever you're tasting. Yeah, like keep eating New York pizza. Fair. Oh, my God, Julian. What bothers me, which I explain,
Starting point is 00:27:52 even with the Grammy stuff and the Grammy consultant and all that. Like once you find out the exact politics from the people that are putting it up and they just blatantly tell you why, that's where the shit gets a little annoying. And I do understand why artists get even more upset because it does drive more streams.
Starting point is 00:28:12 It does bring awareness because these publications are huge. Just putting Grammy nom next to your name increases your value, whether we like it or not. So I don't think, well, I'm not speaking for all artists or myself in particular. particular, but artists aren't looking for validation that their music is good based off a complex list or a Grammy nom. They know the value of it and then finding out that you didn't get what
Starting point is 00:28:34 you deserved because of some political shit. Yeah, that's why you get Wale calling complex and threatening them. Like, I'm coming up. I'm coming up now. Like, it's been 10 years. You guys are purposely doing this at this point. There's no fucking way this is y'all taste. Like, this is personal. So I understand the anger Because I felt it too When I saw this list Why would we kept off the media list I never got that story?
Starting point is 00:28:59 Alliances Oh okay Yeah No It is what it is And before All Reddit and fucking Danny Danny
Starting point is 00:29:08 Danny Chigs Everybody In no way Am I saying That Joe went and told Complex To leave us off it Or my album off Don't
Starting point is 00:29:18 Theory's done Sorry Sorry you can You can't do your fucking... You can't do your theory anymore. I'm not saying that and he did not do that. I'm saying there's alliances behind the scenes. Clipidney.
Starting point is 00:29:32 That have done that. So sorry to ruin your conspiracy theory video that you were about to do. Or you read it like, look, him bringing up the name. I'm actually saying the opposite. So sorry to ruin that for you guys. Anyways. While we're on hip hop journalism, do you guys want to talk about Kai's stream with Nikki? I want to talk about Nikki.
Starting point is 00:29:51 I want to talk about Elliot Wilson. Okay. What do we talk about first? Rory is on the media's ass today. I love Elliot. No, you don't. Give me some to rat. Yes, I do.
Starting point is 00:30:00 Wait, wait. All right. Love is a strong. I don't think we love to love. And I'm going to love. No, you don't. Stop. No, you do not.
Starting point is 00:30:07 I'm not in love with Elliot Wilson. I appreciate Elliot Wilson as a friend. If you were in love with him, that's your business. He's a married man. I'm just saying, I wouldn't. I wouldn't break up a happy. What does that mean? His wife is wonderful.
Starting point is 00:30:18 Yeah, it's frequent Atlanta. Yeah. It's where the hip hop is. Exactly. It's where hip hop lives. First of all, shout out to Kaanat, the Bronx legend. Yes. He had a live stream with Nikki Minaj last night.
Starting point is 00:30:32 Looked like they had a lot of fun. And anything that Kaid does, I'm supporting because he's from the Bronx. And I just think that he's so unique. And me and Edan was talking about, is he the top streamer? I think he is. Obviously, there's people that might have better numbers. Like in streaming. In streaming?
Starting point is 00:30:47 Hip-Hop worlds? Oh, no, but that's what we're talking about. We're just talking about streaming. For this year, there's other. Oh, I mean, I would say yes, but I'm only aware of streamers within our worlds. I don't know if there's like some right wing streamer that like triples Kyle. No. But from my understanding and what I know in my world, Kai is by far.
Starting point is 00:31:04 There's like Aidan Ross and Neon, whatever. But for me, Kai Sinai is the streamer of the year. Because he's from the Bronx. Yeah, that too. Nothing to do with his work for his content. Yeah. Because anyone that has Wi-Fi in the Bronx, you get to. That's it.
Starting point is 00:31:16 Yeah. It doesn't even show in Atlanta? The house is in Atlanta. Atlanta's a new bronx. It's a very New Yorker thing to do, though. Exactly. Get some money and move to Atlanta. Taxes.
Starting point is 00:31:24 I get it. Actually use your money for good. I didn't watch the stream. I'm sure it was fun. I mean, it looks fun. I didn't watch it, but Nikki looks great. She was over three hours late. Chalker.
Starting point is 00:31:38 But even with being over three hours late, and her coming on the screen at 1.30 in the morning, the stream still garnered over 360,000 people. So. I love it. Sounds about right. Yeah. And his mom was there, his sister came.
Starting point is 00:31:52 Like, it seemed very wholesome. It was like mad fun, actually. Yeah. Well, back to Elliot Wilson, my lover apparently. I love him. You love her? He posted a screenshot of the stream with Kai and Nikki and put the caption on Twitter, hip-hop journalism. And I thought this was a great fucking move.
Starting point is 00:32:14 That's hate. Because you would immediately say hate. But if I'm Elliot, I could be like, well, no, I was just saying this is journalism. for hip-hop. This is where we're like... And that will be a lie. It's the perfect shade I've ever seen in my life. You can't really retort it logically because he didn't say anything else. Elliot is hating. And it is hip-hop
Starting point is 00:32:29 journalism right now. Listen, we all have hate-a-moments. We all do. None of us are exempt from having a hate a moment. This is just a classic Elliot Wilson hater moment because of course he definitely reached out to Nikki and they probably wanted to do a rap radar and she probably said, you know, she would
Starting point is 00:32:45 do it at some point. Not right now. She's busy. and he looks up and sees her doing this and like, oh, this is what you were too busy doing where you couldn't do rap radar? Yes, absolutely. No offense to rap radar. It is what it is, man. Yes.
Starting point is 00:32:58 Listen, I'm all for these new platforms, new way of doing press, new way of doing rollouts, new way. Like, I get it, man. Like, everybody has these unique things that they're doing. And sometimes artists are like, yo, listen, this is her, Nikki's first time doing something like this.
Starting point is 00:33:12 So maybe this is what she wanted to do for this project. Like, she sat down with Ellie before. She did a crown with Ellie. Yeah, right? So I'm, you know, she's like, yo, listen, I'm going to give Kai this look and, you know, we're going to, you know, do the stream thing, have fun, dancing and being, she couldn't do that with Ellie. She couldn't do that. She couldn't do that. She couldn't do that.
Starting point is 00:33:29 She couldn't do that. She couldn't do that shit. I don't know if this is what L.A. Wilson was saying at all in those three words, but can there be a balance? Because I think what Kai does is super important and this is great for artists and fans alike. I can also see a consumer wanting a professional, like journalistic interview, like from a professional. I think both can live in the same world, right? Clearly one is way more popular right now.
Starting point is 00:33:57 It would have the most effect right now as well. What would you say? People show, it was at 1 a.m. She showed up and was only 300,000 people. 360,000 people. What? Well, I just think it's great for artists and not fans because they can just have fun and dance here.
Starting point is 00:34:10 They don't have to dress shit. Yeah. Not to answer a fucking question. Just be normal. Like, have fun. Just be a human. You don't need these cookie cutter-ass questions. It's like, that shit is old.
Starting point is 00:34:23 We need both, though. It is interesting, though, how things shifted. Like, for example, outside of Elliot doing great journalism, like when Breakfast Club hit, people thought it was so refreshing because Charlemagne was asking the questions we all wanted to ask from Twitter. Like, he was a representation of us on the timeline, really wanting to. to know certain questions from artists, and that's why Breakfast Club took the fuck off.
Starting point is 00:34:46 We're now in a time where it's even more demanding for you to answer for certain things, yet the media shit has shifted completely where you don't have to. Does that make sense what I'm saying? Consumers online want answers to every last thing
Starting point is 00:35:02 that you've ever done in your fucking life at the highest form now. But now media is the complete opposite. You don't have to answer shit. You could just go and dance. And I don't... Which is weird to me, though. Like, I guess to Elliot's point that he's been making even like with the Drake stuff and, you know,
Starting point is 00:35:19 he's been vocal about artists skipping out on doing journalism and just doing this stuff. Your fans do want answers to some shit, man. Sure. But now they could answer it directly. And also, like, remember back then there was talk shows and all these other shows on TV that people would go on. Now it's just on stream. Yeah, but even when they had the talk shows and, like, those morning shows, that was all fluff. You never really got the real shit.
Starting point is 00:35:41 This fluff. And no one clips the question. That was always cool about hip-hop journalism. You got, like, it wasn't that fluffy shit. And not even drama. People ask direct fucking questions, even when it was in print. Like, of course, there's some fluff and some industry shit. Like, you don't ask that.
Starting point is 00:35:55 But shit, even the Jay and Osby, Angie asked Jay a bunch of direct fucking questions that entire time. That was what was so cool about hip-hop. Everything else besides maybe just Howard Stern. No one was really asking shit. Media shifted. I mean, this is just, again... The fucking Letterman made you run on a Velcro wall. This is...
Starting point is 00:36:15 It's the same thing as it is now, but hip-hop always demanded answers. But this is just a... You know, artists don't like to get grilled about what was the inspiration for the album and this and that. Like, people want to, you know, they want to watch the artists be themselves, have fun, not be so programmed and robotic to questions and things like that. This, what Nicky did is because... Nikki is Nikki, but at the same time, Nikki has this character quality about her personality.
Starting point is 00:36:46 For sure, yeah. And Kai is the character. You know what I mean? So this is kind of them, like, in their character world, having fun. But at the same time, we know that Nikki has an album.
Starting point is 00:36:56 They're playing the music. They're dancing, having a good time. It's just showing Nikki in a different light in a different way. She likes to be silly, have fun sometimes. I'm sure she will sit down with maybe Elliot at some point. I mean, she has other interviews scheduled. So I do think she will be. balance it out and it won't just be dancing
Starting point is 00:37:12 fun. Give people different looks, different angles. Alright, for example, Elliot and BDOT's interview with Drake however many years ago. Yeah. That to me felt like they asked the right questions. It didn't feel like they were just grilling Drake about shit. 2019. I mean, to me that was a good interview, no? Is that like not entertaining anymore?
Starting point is 00:37:34 Because it wasn't, they didn't go to Charlemagne approach of shock value and asking wild shit. They asked direct questions we wanted to hear and Drake answer them. I thought that was important for both sides. Yes, but I don't think, I think what Elliot's tweet, it's like every time he does that, it seems like he's inferring that's like, that's all
Starting point is 00:37:52 we should get from our artists. I think Edens right. There's a world where both these things could exist, obviously. But I think there's like a level of saltiness or just like... I think he was just trolling here, though. I mean, he's great at it. And we're talking about it now.
Starting point is 00:38:07 I just love that. I love that. Elliot's point of the social. What do you want, to do like let her first of all she can do whatever the fuck she wants but like let her have these moments let her have her fun not i do think elliot was he some of it was just joking but at the same time he's been on this yeah on his run because drake didn't sit down and do a hip hop journalism interview and things like that so he is pushing a narrative that hip hop rappers in particular
Starting point is 00:38:34 need to do more hip hop journalism like so he is pushing that at the same time I don't think that this was him throwing... It was a little shade, but it's not like he doesn't like Khan. He's mad that Nikki did it. It's more so like, cool, nah, yeah, you did that. That was big. So I guess this maybe is the new hip hop journalism, I guess. This is hip-hop journalism, by the way.
Starting point is 00:38:56 It's hip-hop media. This is a journalism. But like these offset has done the sleepover. Like, we're not... But that's a lot of podcasts. There's podcasts that are journalistic. And then there's podcasts that are media. I think we're media.
Starting point is 00:39:11 There's people that really do this shit professionally as far as journalists that also have podcasts, but that falls under media. Just like if Nikki came on our platform, I would say that's media. Would we ask her questions? Of course, but it wouldn't be in a full journalistic approach
Starting point is 00:39:26 the way Elliot and BDOT did because they both come from that world for real. They just happen to also do a podcast because that's the newest form of journalism. But there's, Kai's not a journalist. He wouldn't say is it. And going back to that.
Starting point is 00:39:39 the newest form of, I mean, it's not journalism, but it's just a new media. Streaming is just the way to go. Yeah. And I get it. 360,000 people. And isn't that what Elliot's supposed to do them? He's admitted plenty of times,
Starting point is 00:39:51 it was back when Tax almost got the Jay-Z interview, and then Elliot swooped in and was like, oh, you owe me an interview. Like, he's competitive. Yeah, I get it. He started double XL after the source. Like, this is a person that's been well documented, documented in competitive hate.
Starting point is 00:40:07 You can call it hate, but he's being, competitive. He's going to not try to get a Nikki and Drake interview. And maybe shit on the people that they are doing it with. It's just competition. No, it's hate though. You think this was hate. When you're competitive, hate is going to be involved when you're competitive.
Starting point is 00:40:22 It's just, no, that's not true. That's not true. You can be competitive and not hate. I think both can co-exist. There's a line. Well, it does coexist. Yeah, there's a line. If you're really competitive, there's a line. He wasn't crossing the line there. A screenshot in three words?
Starting point is 00:40:38 I'm competitive. No, of course. Well, I thought it was beautiful hate because you can't say he's hating. We all know that it was hate. It's not the amount of effort that determines if it's hate or not, that's still hate. It's still hate. But if he goes to an artist that is about to do a rollout and is like,
Starting point is 00:40:51 yo, let me get the first exclusive because this, this, this, this, this, and this. And brings up his competition and discredits them. Yes, it's hate, but that's competitive. He's, he's in the race. He's trying to get an exclusive. Yeah, but you. So it's hate. If he starts discrediting, like, they're a real character.
Starting point is 00:41:08 like who they are and lying on them, that's, that's real hate. But there's competitive hate that I think is just healthy competition. Run faster. Like Jonathan Majors? Exactly. Run faster. Don't hate on me. Don't stay. Don't jump in my lane and throw banana pills and shit on the floor on my lane. They get like, what is Mario Carlin? Run faster. You know what I'm saying? Just run faster. Like I'm lit right now. I'm hot. She came to my crib to the basement and we have fun. It is what it is. Now, this on the other hand, know is quite possibly one of the funniest videos i've seen in all of twenty what do you guys so early this year we spoke on the whole jonathan major's thing and i personally well we apologize because we kind of get off me through jonathan out there uh but when
Starting point is 00:41:51 once more uh things came out about the night with the alleged incident with him and his girlfriend the altercation between uh him and his ex-girlfriend um we had some some tough words i had some tough words because i just i was just i was just i was just i was like he can't be this this crazy he can't he i know he didn't fuck up the bag like this he is in fact this crazy and in your defense when the first evidence came out it looked nuts it looked like the PR text it looked crazy but again i apologize got more and i apologize again to jonathan like you know everything seems like it's okay now so this video came out with uh him and his ex-girlfriend running through the streets of manhattan it looked like he was trying to put her in the vehicle
Starting point is 00:42:32 and then run away from the vehicle she jumped out started chasing him I don't know what this proves about this night. That's fucking hilarious. I don't know what this. It happened right here. I don't. He cooked her, bro. How do we not see him running?
Starting point is 00:42:47 I don't know what that cleared up about. You can see me trying to parallel park right there. I don't know what this proves. I don't know if this proves that he did or didn't put his hands on her that night. She should go to the league. But we do see that he's trying to get away from her. So that part is clear. Beautiful form.
Starting point is 00:43:05 Yo, he is floating. High knees. elbows parallel like he is he's booking his head is so balanced he kept his little paperboy cap on he floated on her yo he he he had that corner he leaned into the corner this is fucking hilarious well i mean i don't know again this this i don't know what this proves or disproves about the night but one thing looks very certain and clear in this video is that he is trying to get away from her. Yo, he dead sprint.
Starting point is 00:43:35 Like, if this is brought up in court, I mean, his lawyer, does he even have to work? Yeah. I mean, absolutely. Did you guys see? If there's video of me dead sprinting out of my car to get away from my girl and hitting three blocks with, I think that's like a four, three, 40 speed. I think this case is somewhat close.
Starting point is 00:43:54 I didn't. No, don't say that. It's about this incident right here, right? Or more. Yeah, but we don't know what happened because we do know that she caught up to him that night. Oh, okay. All right.
Starting point is 00:44:03 I thought it was like the car incident and then coming out. So now when you say you was trying to get away from her, you're in the clear head. When you say, yo, I was trying to get away from her. We see him trying to get away from her. Now we do know. I don't believe she caught up to him the way he was moving. Of course she did. We know she did.
Starting point is 00:44:17 What are you talking about? We know she did. Something happened after that and the cops were called. Maybe he's more of a sprinter than a long distance runner? I don't. Because he looked like he made it to the west side highway by now. I don't know. It looked like he could clock a good 800.
Starting point is 00:44:30 Yeah. But did you all read the. text messages. There was new text messages? No, but I did hear the audio of something that we covered with the Coretta Scott King, Michelle Obama thing. And I feel like
Starting point is 00:44:44 Demeris May Omian Apology, but that's up to her. Elaborate. So what do you mean? Pat, leather, Pat, I'm sorry. Tourette. He was just explaining he wanted her to act classier. Because he's going to become a great man and she needs to be, act like she. And he was suggesting people,
Starting point is 00:45:00 People important and with the cause that he is on have always had supportive, classy women next to them. I think that was my point, right? Jonathan Majors is a serial killer and I'm standing on it. Wow. I don't. He has a new movie coming out where he's a serial killer. He gives sociopath to me. It was a very narcissistic audio.
Starting point is 00:45:23 And then these text messages that he sent to her when he was like threatening to kill him. himself and she was like, well, she was trying to leave. Like, they weren't really, he was like, nope, I'm just going to kill myself. Any man who threatens this starts texting you, they're going to kill themselves. When y'all get into it.
Starting point is 00:45:40 Work for tomorrow. Do it, pussy. Social. Sociopath. He's a sociopath. I'm telling you. That narcissistic rant, the text messages, everything, he's a sociopath.
Starting point is 00:45:51 And I both think they were beating on each other for sure. But I do in no way should perform. Do I think this is an innocent man at all? Everything about him gives off. How he was talking in that audio message that leaked is how I think Sean King talks about himself behind closed doors every day. But I think Sean King refers to himself in the third person. That's the only difference between him and John. No, because Sean King.
Starting point is 00:46:14 Yeah. Sean King is getting the seas fire. It's like Sean, I know you're right here. You need to give me your money, Rihanna. There was videos from inside his apartment house, their closet. People were killing him over his clothing in the closet. She was laying down on the floor in the clay. It was just weird.
Starting point is 00:46:33 The shit is weird, man. You know her late in your closet before? No. She was, when the police came over, she was laying down on the floor in the closet, and he took a blanket off the couch on the first floor, ran it upstairs and covered her when they went up. I mean, sometimes hard when the floors are colds.
Starting point is 00:46:49 I'm assuming she didn't have clothes on on the bottle. Or he was covering like a bruise or something. Yeah, something. Oh, okay. See, I didn't see all this. Yeah. I think they'd be beating on each other for sure. but yeah, he's a little off.
Starting point is 00:47:03 How would you guys feel in making goods? Was he on steroids for the creed? Yes. Leroy rage? I think that fucked him up. Because if you look at his before and after, he looks crazy. Like he looks nothing like he does now.
Starting point is 00:47:18 That's actually great point. Wasn't just hard work? No. I mean, you had to work out, but, you know, with the little head start like that. No, I saw the before and after. It was, bro. Come on. What are we talking about here?
Starting point is 00:47:29 Yeah, I mean. Well, I mean, that doesn't give rights to me. Hold on, there's a worse. I'm so happy that there's a lot of people juice. There's no BBL rage. Like, I'm glad that's just specific to men. BBL rage. Like, our version is steroids for like men, if we really want to quickly transform our bodies, we'll take steroids.
Starting point is 00:47:45 But there's obviously crazy side effects with your personality. Thank God, like any time a chick doesn't come back from Columbia, she's even crazier than she already was. Can you imagine all the BBLs in New York City and they all had BBL rage to be the most dangerous city? Some of them have the rage without the BBL, you know what I'm saying? I know, and then add in the BBL rage? Ficked. Yeah, that just adds to you. Like, imagine every chick like Barry Bonds in Dykeman, like just going nuts.
Starting point is 00:48:09 Hmm. What is wrong? Like, something is wrong with your brain. Tourette's. There you go. Just lay it on the Tourette's, man. Laying on the Tourette's. Speaking of people walking back a lot of stuff.
Starting point is 00:48:27 Okay. Is everyone team Tori now? It felt like a week of new information with old cases. the entire timeline. It was Jonathan Majors first, and then it went right to free Tory lanes. So a lot of the timeline shift. Again, for those that don't know, the fourth person in the car, which was Tori's bodyguard slash driver, did write a statement and submitted to the court, suggesting that Kelsey had the gun, Tori went to break the fight up, and shots went off, suggesting that Tori never actually had the gun
Starting point is 00:49:01 and Kelsey had it the whole time pointing it at Meg, which kind of shifted a lot of people on the timeline because they don't know how the court works and they just see one person. And granted, he's the keyest witness you could think of. So I understand the value that people thought, but we don't know all the validity until he's cross-examined. I raised my eyebrows a bit when I saw that.
Starting point is 00:49:23 Same. But then Meg got on live and gave a lot of logic to the situation and I went right back to, yeah, I don't know what the fuck I'm talking about. What was the logic? Her logic was just kind of like, nigga, where you been? Great question. Y'all are defending someone that didn't defend themselves. You've been saying everywhere but the court that you didn't shoot me.
Starting point is 00:49:44 Same with Kelsey. Everyone had their time to say everything they've been saying offline. Why didn't you guys say it in court? And I think that is the easiest question to dead all of this. Let me start by saying this. Again, continue prayers to Megan. And also prayers of Tori because he has a hard road ahead of him as well. Despite what anybody may say, because I've met people just in passing that they claim that I'm a Tori Lane's hater and I hate Tori.
Starting point is 00:50:12 He claims that. Anybody that knows me knows that's not true. I'm a huge Tori fan. I put a lot of people on the Tori early in his career. Specifically, just in this case, what we're talking about is going to court, it's going to trial. the jury decided what they decided the judge handed down a sentence or did he hand down a sentence yet
Starting point is 00:50:32 I don't know Yeah The thing about it is this If me, Rory Julian and Damaris are somewhere And Damaris get shot Rory did it And
Starting point is 00:50:46 For sure All of us are saying Because Julian scared of guns If Damaris says Julian shot me Great great And it was me Rory
Starting point is 00:50:56 Marrison with. And I'm saying, oh, Rory had a gun, but I didn't see who shot. And Demarrest said, no, Julian shot me. And then I'm Demaris's best friend and I'm not saying anything. I think that it's safe to believe the person that got shot. I think it's safe to believe that the person she's accusing shot her not saying he didn't shoot her in the court of law. is playing a game of prove it which is what a lot of people do sometimes they don't say nothing they don't take the stand they'd rather let the defense prove them innocent or the prosecution
Starting point is 00:51:43 prove them guilty but they don't take the stand and say I didn't shoot this girl because why if you did do it you'd be lying in the court of law and that's a whole other charge in prison time So, you know, you have these things now happening.
Starting point is 00:52:00 Again, public opinion is very loud these days on social media. People don't care. And that's my thing with this too is you can say what you want, but I would rather people say they just don't care. Just listen to his music and peace. If you want to play Chick's tape, just play it and please. But stop trying to do all this. Still stream.
Starting point is 00:52:17 Still stream, Tori, still support it if you want. That's fine. But don't say that you don't think that he, because it's like, if you don't think that he did this, then you're one of the people that still believe Tupac is alive in Cuba as well. I think it's all conspiracy. It's like, all right, cool. You can be that.
Starting point is 00:52:34 We know that this case went to court. Evidence was put in front of a jury. And the jury decided what they decided. Now, you can have a public opinion and say, oh, the bodyguard is now saying that he saw Kelsey with a gun. And Kelsey may have had the gun in her hand. The bodyguard that went missing the entire trial. So this is, it's just, you know,
Starting point is 00:52:57 claims he wasn't allowed to testify. It's what the rumors that I was like, what? Wait, what? Yeah, it's just a lot of... I'm calling Big Cap. You were paid to take your ass to St. Lucian show out for a while. No fucking way is the fourth witness, the only one that's not even part of this real trial,
Starting point is 00:53:17 was not allowed to testify? Listen, man, if a woman said I shot her and I didn't shoot her, we wouldn't have to wait a year or some change to him. to him, you say, you know, I didn't shoot that girl. The Tory community thinks this is their conspiracy. This is their Tupac and Cuba point of view. Is that Meg and Kelsey were protecting each other and put it on Tori
Starting point is 00:53:40 because they didn't want Kelsey to get jammed up because they were best friends. That's their theory. Kelsey and Megan are not even friends. Guys, I'm giving you their theory. I didn't say it. But you have holes in it. They have to add that into their theory as well, though. No.
Starting point is 00:53:53 These two are not even that. They're not even cool. They don't even speak. They hate each other. One is dating the owner of the label that Megan was going against. It might be a nice guy. But it's just even still, it's like they, no one's nastier to each other than two bitches who don't like each other.
Starting point is 00:54:10 Words. If I'm sure Megan thought a couple times, like I should say Kelsey shot my ass and locked that bitch up for the rest of her life, but she didn't shoot me. Like, if I didn't like my friend and we wasn't friends no more and we was fucking the same nigga and it's mad beef and I had the chance to put her in jail for shooting. me, I'm not putting Tori in fucking jail just because he fucked my best friend. Oh, I hate him so much. Oh, Tori Lanes
Starting point is 00:54:32 fucks my best friend. I have access to every nigga in the world because I'm Megan Nostalian, but Tori is just really taking me out of here. So I'm going to lock him up for five years. Is that Terrence? Like, what the fuck? Who the fuck do you all? What do y'all think this is? Like, that is so fucking insane to me. She's just so
Starting point is 00:54:48 heartbroken because Tori fucking Lanes. Like, get the fuck out of him. I'm just at the point where it's just enough is enough with this. turns. Like, I could care less to even talk about this anymore. It may warrant for a new trial, though. No, it won't. The judge is going to look at that like, nigga, please, we couldn't find you. Oh, I wasn't allowed to testify. We were looking for you sending you fucking affidavits for years.
Starting point is 00:55:10 This is, this is, again, this is just public opinion. Megan responded to this because of public opinion and things that, you know, people are just saying online, on social media. So you had every right to get on live and put context. to a lot of people just reading shit and thinking it's fact. No, but... And at the end of the day, like, even in conclusion of this whole thing, Meg just saying, bro, a street code, like, come on, get on the stand if you didn't shoot me.
Starting point is 00:55:42 Just say you didn't shoot me. And that's another thing with people... And that's where I'm at. It's not street code. If somebody is saying you shot them and you didn't shoot them, you taking the stand and saying, I didn't shoot this person, is not snitching. Like, people just don't even know
Starting point is 00:55:57 what that, what snitching is. Matter of fact, their whole, the whole defense was alluding that Kelsey shot her. So where's the street code then? Like, you play a buffet with the street code.
Starting point is 00:56:09 Yeah, it's just, you know, enough is enough. You're at a Kylie Jenner pool party and a woman was shot. Yeah. Y'all, think Megan and Tori were moving packs together? It's just, it's just time to,
Starting point is 00:56:21 it's not a street code. Yeah, it's just time to move on from this. it's had his day in court and I know of course Torrey's team is going to fight it because he is the one serving time in prison and they are going to try to get that sentence reduced if possible but
Starting point is 00:56:37 things like this to me don't help the case at all. I think for anything this may piss a judge off and you know he might start throwing other people in court behind this shit so I think everybody should just listen you just use a little bit of common sense and understand that
Starting point is 00:56:54 you know evidence was presented in the court stop listening to public opinion stop listening to these blogs and all those other shit I think I think the information may be public information at the time or the case if you want by the court files yeah you can't go get the court files
Starting point is 00:57:10 if you want to read up on everything yourself just to get better context but I want my favorite Instagram she said that she said yo stop reading the articles on Instagram with the big black font in the white background like go with the actual article just just say you don't care Way more fun for my favorite streamer to just give me parts of it that help with my narrative.
Starting point is 00:57:29 But see, that's the thing. People don't, just outside of her case, people literally just read headlines these days and will run with a whole narrative off of a headline. And in the actual article of the fucking headline, like they'll tell you what actually happened. A bunch of clickbait shit. People are out here arguing off of clickbait.
Starting point is 00:57:48 But that's, but that's, again, again, that's bad common. Yeah, but that's, that's, that's the whole point of it is, though. If you, you know, just say you don't care. Stream Tori's music, buy his merch, do whatever. Like, just say you don't care. I'd rather people just say that. Say you don't care enough about Meg and that you want to support Tori.
Starting point is 00:58:09 And you can still support him. Like, do your thing. But people got to stop this whole conspiracy about who shot her thing. Like, just stop. Can I be objective, though? Sure. Because there was another subject that Meg brought up on that live where it was just pure gas lighting. And I think Demaris needs to step to the front of the congregation to speak for all women.
Starting point is 00:58:27 Here's here's my objective. I believe Meg, 100% on the Tory shit and everything she said. But I also can spot when a woman is doing pure women math, gaslighting, all your favorite words you could think of. Our guy, partisan Fonte, went on a press run for his. That's a guy. I've never met him. That's family. See?
Starting point is 00:58:49 I like that. Call it out, baby, Dee. It's not your guy. No, it's my guy. Okay. Yeah, I'm saving your phone as party. I don't have his number. I've never met him.
Starting point is 00:58:57 We never spoke. But that shit got. Yeah, it sounds better. Okay. If Elliot Wilson is my lover, that would put party as my guy. Because Elliot's my guy, but now he's my lover. I have to change the scale. Compartmental.
Starting point is 00:59:09 So now someone I've never met is my guy. Yeah. He went on a press run. I think he did Breakfast Club. He did see the thing is. He did Angioli Yee lip service for his EP. But of course, we all tuned in because we wanted them to ask the questions about about his, I guess,
Starting point is 00:59:24 his diss record, reply record to Megan saying that he cheated. And he tore her up for three minutes and you can have your opinion on how far he went in, maybe he didn't need to do it. But I do agree he's entitled to to reply. Meg did the most gaslight response to his
Starting point is 00:59:40 response. Who said I was talking about you? That's the same way Elliot Wilson did hip-hop journalism. It's the same strategy. Damn it is. It's the same strategy. We know who you were talking about, Megan. Of course we can't prove it. But we know. No, but she was talking straight to him.
Starting point is 00:59:54 She was talking about her last year. She only dated him. If I didn't cheat on you, then why would you assume that that line was about you? I don't talk about you. She said, I don't have a bad word to say about my ex. Why would he assume that I was talking about him before his album dropping his press run? You sound like you gas lying. That's exactly what Meg said too.
Starting point is 01:00:12 Gaslight. Before your album dropping your press run, you go and make a three-minute disc track about me because you know saying my name is going to garden your headline. It was direct. It was direct. He didn't even put the response on the EP. you put this EP out regardless. It's not his fault that Meg just said that shit right before it. He still put a track out. Rory.
Starting point is 01:00:28 If she's talking about her last year specifically. She didn't come up and I love that song. She didn't say that before that. She knows who we thought she was talking about. Now what I will say is when people were saying it was him, she didn't come out and correct that it wasn't. So I get that, right? But my thing is what she said to him,
Starting point is 01:00:45 if you didn't say you, if you didn't do it, then why would you assume I was talking about you, Levy? That's gaslight. And that's the same voice Meghaad. The whole thing. Because it's true. You know, women ain't shit. It's true confusion.
Starting point is 01:00:57 When her voice goes out like that? Baby, why would you assume that I was talking about you if you didn't cheat on me? I see what she's doing. I get it. She's doing it right now. Yeah, she's doing it. Okay, but if you accuse me of cheating and I didn't, I'm not allowed to say I didn't cheat. Like, what's wrong with that?
Starting point is 01:01:11 He didn't say his name. Oh, my God. And he came out with a three-minute disc track and dissed her entire life and disrespected her and says she was a liar. Separate point. Talk about her friends. I understand that point. Shout off to poor Kellyn.
Starting point is 01:01:23 Kellen's getting talked about. Like, it's sick. I saw when Bridget, Mandy, and Angelus Coase as well brought up that point of like, no, we're not saying you couldn't reply, but you went extra in. I think that's a fair point to bring up to somebody. That's not the point I'm talking about. Meg is gaslighting by saying, I didn't say your name. Why do you think it's about you? Like, I don't know.
Starting point is 01:01:44 You just talked about your entire last year and I was the only person you were in a long-term relationship for of that year. Allegedly. Oh, my God. No, both of them, it's not alleged. Both of them have said they were in that long-term relationship. Okay, but that doesn't mean that he was the only person she was in a relationship. This is how women get you. So who was it about?
Starting point is 01:02:01 I don't know. I'm not in her personal. If you were to take a guess, who do you think it's about? Could have been anyone. I get it. Could have been any of me? I could be an artist writing a song. Why the fuck do I have to live all my goddamn rhyme?
Starting point is 01:02:11 Yeah, we didn't even think about her just like art. Why do I have to live on my goddamn rhyme? And this is why women are the best gymnasts. because when that record came out, DeMaris gave us every breakdown of like, the snake is shedding its skin, and this is Megan coming out of the year that's specific to her,
Starting point is 01:02:26 and every word is about a January, February, March. That part happened in April, and now DeMaris is like, I mean, it was just a song that maybe she's an artist. That was someone else's story. You see your friend? She can draw from his.
Starting point is 01:02:37 You see your friend? That was crazy. Maybe part her up. Niggas telling on everybody. That record is fire. Nikki got off on that. She said, these bitches fuck everybody. She said, I'm a multi-million dollar homebody.
Starting point is 01:02:55 He said, I'm going to get another Vince Lombardi. That, nah, she kind of ate that. Nikki, who wrote that? How you know that the trope is called a Vince Lombardi trial? How Nikki know that? She's had a Lombardi bar before. Yeah, but how she know that? You don't take Nick Mnman and I just watch football before?
Starting point is 01:03:09 No. I don't. That's a crazy out of the show. I don't think Nikki gives a fuck about football at all. To know. the Lombardi trophies? You got to really watch football to know that the trophy
Starting point is 01:03:19 That is not since that on Twitter I know the trophy That is a Google search away nigger you had 14 Giants games a year I would hope you know what it is what a Vince Lombardi trophy is
Starting point is 01:03:29 where you talk about It's been some time Since that's crazy Yeah but I'm just saying She's going to games Like I would hope that we never see Nicky Minnage at a football game
Starting point is 01:03:36 I'm not gonna let you talk about Demaris like this How do I talk about it? She's been in how many games she've been to this shit How many games have you been to? Yeah exactly So I would hope that you know
Starting point is 01:03:44 I would hope she knows that the trophy It's called a Vince Lombardi Tosh. But you know those diehard fans that prefer to like watch at home with no distractions. Maybe that's, maybe that's Nick. I don't know. Her man cave in the basement. Nah, Nikki is different.
Starting point is 01:03:57 She ain't watching. And in her cozy care. I mean, she's married so her husband probably watches, but. Oh, that's misogynistic. No, to think that Nikki Minaj's husband watches football? No, to think that she would only watch football with her husband. How is that misconduct? A lot of women only watch football because they're part in the watch this football.
Starting point is 01:04:12 But why can't she just as a, why, why do you assume that Nikki doesn't football because she's a girl? Not that because she's a girl. She's a pretty girl? No, because I think Nikki's just not into football like that. I don't know why you're feeding into her. Yeah, like, I don't think Nikki. I don't, I don't see Nikki Minaj being into football.
Starting point is 01:04:27 I don't see it. Rory flipped my gaslight button on. So now, like I'm gaslighting all of y'all. It's okay. I like gaslight. Has she ever talked about football? Probably not. Okay, Billboard.
Starting point is 01:04:36 She has plenty of football. Billboard right now. Nicky Minaj lyrics. All 42 references to sports. 42? Yeah. You know, I'm, I tried to be on your side more. 42 sports references is not a low amount of references.
Starting point is 01:04:49 Not a lot. I mean, come on. She's been doing this for a home. If this is not a diehard sports man, when you was in New York, you was fucking a Yankee. Yeah. Like, come on. I was fucking with base. That's not that much of them.
Starting point is 01:05:00 New York Yankees. Nobody's ever heard of them. That was not that crazy. She's a fucking Yankee stand. I get what I desire. It's my empire. Yes, I call the shots. I'm the empire.
Starting point is 01:05:14 Come on. If you're not a diehard fan, how would you know? Whoa. He's going through the whole field now. She's calling out. I wonder what her parlay is tonight. Soccer moms need to organize a pep rally. You game over, bitch.
Starting point is 01:05:27 Gatorade, wet sow. Come on, if you don't like... Damn, bro. No, pull up. Because you need the gatorade. These bishops calling me Manning Eli. Pull that up. Giants.
Starting point is 01:05:36 I like that. It's okay. It's my doing. Turex. There's those Tourettes. You really might have Tourette's. I told y'all. I told y'all.
Starting point is 01:05:49 I told y'all. If Cuevo is the QB, I'm Nick Lombardi. There we go. Motorsport. Shut up. Hey, come on. That one was good. Not the Yankees shit.
Starting point is 01:05:59 I don't know about that. I don't know. My point is being made. I don't, Nicky's, she's not watching football. Doubted it. Highly doubt it. Fair. But that song bang, though.
Starting point is 01:06:08 Yeah. Shides the DA Smalls. I saw. Heartbreak hotel. I'm in the Arod suite. Like, I'm talking playoff seats. Arod was in the. playoffs a lot. How would you not know that if you weren't tapped in?
Starting point is 01:06:21 Let's be clear and understand. I said football, not baseball, not basketball. Everyone you've read has been baseball. Well, I didn't organize this for Billboard. I'm sorry. Oh, oops. I think it's by sport. Damn it. Oh, football. Got you. I keep a linebacker. Tell them to tackle for me. Yo, you've seen my last pick. Go double tap that for me. Okay. Lineback. I'm not bad at that. linebacker she double tap that for me that's a very specific position and being signed a young money
Starting point is 01:06:53 you have to be on your toes because Wayne switches football teams every year so you know she's had to pay attention to different teams oh maybe that's what maybe Wayne introduced her to football and okay all right but I still don't think Nikki watches football that's back to Damaris's original place
Starting point is 01:07:08 yeah she said that she said Wayne it was more of the assumption that a man had to introduce her to the sport and she couldn't just do it by herself yeah I don't see that for Nick I don't see Nikki find a football on her own. I just don't, I don't see it. You don't see her finding America's sport. Yeah, the most popular sport in America.
Starting point is 01:07:24 You don't see her put the cheese head on, Wayne? Definitely not the cheese. I don't see Nikki doing that. Oh. You think it's like a West Indian thing? What do you think she just watches cricket? No, I just... What is Nikki watches?
Starting point is 01:07:34 No, like, I got sisters and they don't know what they don't watch football. They don't pay. They just don't pay. They watch basketball. But they're not Nikki Lewinsky. But see, I'm... That is true. Nicky DeBarb.
Starting point is 01:07:46 get an issue, and her with Juku Barbie like. Yeah. Yeah. What? Tretretz. Do we have any voicemail? Oh, God.
Starting point is 01:07:55 Thank you. You've got mail. Yes. I think this is a fun question. It's not misogynistic, but it does have to do with a guy. It's another, it's not a relationship. You'll get it.
Starting point is 01:08:13 So I'm kind of having trouble with my girlfriend lately. Nice. She's been getting all my shirts dirty with her makeup every time she hugs me. I'm not sure what to do at this point. A lot of my white shirts are ruined and
Starting point is 01:08:29 they're not super cheap. So what do you guys think I should do? One of my biggest pet peeves. I'm glad he brought this up. This is a revolutionary right here to bring this to the forefront. I think it's the most selfish thing on earth that women know they have a full face of makeup and have no
Starting point is 01:08:47 regards for your shirt. They've been wearing makeup for decades. They know what it does. Why are you hugging me in my shoulder? I feel like, Demaris, you've been pretty careful about that for some people. Yeah. I haven't fucked up any of you guys' shirts. She'll be like, no, I can't.
Starting point is 01:09:00 I can't. I can't because I got makeup on. That amazing Daily Paper shirt that I got in the UK. Already? Meat and green. Destroyed it. Yeah, but that's not. It doesn't come.
Starting point is 01:09:11 It can't come out in the wash for some reason. You got to try dry cleaning? No, I feel weird dry cleaning a t-shirt. I would. So this is the thing. a lot of makeup is oil-based which is why it's not coming out in the wash damn y'all bitch of some oil paintings
Starting point is 01:09:24 um get a tie to go pin get a tie to go pin Mona Lisa get a tied to go pin and carry it with you and also if you are talking about white shirts get some blue dye
Starting point is 01:09:37 get some blue dye or well you can use dishwash this is gas lighter so we got to go to work I have to carry a tied pin match just don't hug me in my white shirt or just be like hey watch out I got a white shirt on don't hug me. Like, you can do that too. I do that. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:09:51 Give him like the side hug. He needs to have that conversation. Like, just don't, yeah, don't hug me when you are wearing a mix. Yeah, that's really it. Well, his girlfriend is doing that on purpose. That's marking her territory. Stop. Damn, really?
Starting point is 01:10:03 Yeah. Absolutely. Women know what they're doing when they hugged their man and she better buy that fucking shirt then. Like, they know. To that point, for everyone that's been in a relationship here, has that ever jammed you up for an innocent makeup mistake on your shirt? No, thank God. I've had, like, I've come home and didn't even realize that, like, I just hugged a friend, nothing at all.
Starting point is 01:10:23 And now you're in an argument because some girl didn't take care of her face. She left her raw shop. It depends on what type of lipstick is it. Because, I mean, what type of makeup it is? Because if it's just makeup, like brown makeup on your collar, that's fine. But if it's lipstick on your collar, I mean, she was sucking on your neck and you need your ass. That's not what I was getting. Yeah, that's not what.
Starting point is 01:10:40 No, there wasn't like a lipstick shit right here. It was just like a cheek, whatever this is. Yeah, yeah. Like foundation, like, got on. I think it's a little selfish and disrespectful for women not to pay attention. I don't think you do all. I feel this guy. Talk to her about it.
Starting point is 01:10:56 You should. That shit would piss me off because if you really do want to save the shirt, you have to dry clean it because I've had to do that before. It sucks. So unless you want to keep eating $5 a shirt to dry, tell her, give me the little gentle hug. Tell her she looks better without makeup. When you hug, you're supposed to brush.
Starting point is 01:11:16 And the issue is because. Because girls are usually shorter than boys, right? So when we go to hug you, our face is where your shoulder is. She needs to go up on her tippy toes. And what I do with all of y'all, I just kind of rub my cheek against your cheek. I don't and keep the neck. When the fuck do you do that? Like when I go to hug you guys, I don't hug you tight.
Starting point is 01:11:35 I like kind of go face to face like on the sides. And that's appreciated. I think more women should be self-aware. So now makeup is on my face. Yeah. Your transition. So now my girl want to know who's finty shade number seven is this. on my face.
Starting point is 01:11:50 Have you guys ever made out or fucked girl with a lot of makeup on and then went to the bathroom and looked at your own face after? Yeah, you look like a crispy cream powder donut. I look like I'd be canceled for blackface. Do you have any other voicemails? That's a good shit,
Starting point is 01:12:05 that's a great shot. We can do one more, yeah, fuck it, why not? I look like a Halloween costume gone wrong. Hi! Hey. My name is Cassandra from New York. And I just want to say I love the pod.
Starting point is 01:12:27 And I've been listening for quite a while. And every week it's getting better and better. I look forward to it each week. So anyways, let me get back, get straight to the question. My birthday is coming up soon. and it always it's my birthday falls right around the holidays and it's always hard to
Starting point is 01:12:53 figure out what to do because there's a lot of other things going on and what have you but anyways do you think a birthday dinner or a birthday hang is better what type of events do you find
Starting point is 01:13:11 have the most joy for you and what places have sparked the most joy. Like, what's been the best birthday you've had ever? All right. Can I wait to hear what you guys have to say back. Thank you. What did you say? A birthday dinner or a birthday what?
Starting point is 01:13:30 Hang. Like just like a party. What do you prefer? Yeah. Let's go one by one. So what about you, Rory? Birthday hang, for sure. Which just means, like, what, bar?
Starting point is 01:13:38 Birthday dinners are great if you go ahead of time and just know that you're going to pay for everything and everyone can just do it. Exactly. That's not how they should be done, though. Yes. But for peace of mind, I think it's better. Those birthday dinners are cool. But no, birthday hang.
Starting point is 01:13:51 I'd fuck a dinner. Birthday hang for sure. Birthday dinners, again, I'm paying. I'm picking up the bill for everything. That's not how I do that. It's not how you do dinners. But that's how I would do it. I wouldn't invite somebody to my birthday dinner or have,
Starting point is 01:14:05 I wouldn't want anybody to throw me a surprise birthday dinner and invite people out to my birthday dinner and didn't have them pay. Well, you guys would have, like, more than 10 people if you guys did a birthday dinner. birthday dinner, right? Because for me, Ball has 10 brothers and sisters. Yeah. Oh, yeah. So even more so, right?
Starting point is 01:14:18 But for me, like, I would do birthday dinner, but it would have to be intimate, like less than 10. That's what I did this year. It wouldn't go past 10. Yeah. Well, I don't even know. Yes, exactly.
Starting point is 01:14:27 Well, intimate, I said. Clinton, homie's birthday was last week. We did dinner for him on Saturday. Private room, 18 people. Pre-fix menu, $150 per head, all you can eat and drink. That's cool. So he asked everyone before creating the group
Starting point is 01:14:43 chat text text he asked everyone individually yo are you down here's the deal created the group chat text everyone sent their venmo covered it for the night we all ate drank walked out that bitch without having to take out a credit card and doing anything love that's how i like to do it i just i don't know i'm i'm weird with my birthday like i just don't i don't celebrate my birthday at all get the birthday blues no i just i just think that's that's like too much of an ego thing like everybody come to celebrate yourself just know sing for me there's one day it should be that day like he's just getting all your close friends in a room. Yeah, exactly. I'm not mad at it, but if I don't, I don't have to do anything for my birthday. You don't. Like, you could text me, happy birthday,
Starting point is 01:15:21 call me, yo, happy birthday. I'm cool with that. But there's people that love you, so they're going to do something for you. You love me pay some of these bills. Two birthdays ago, I don't know if, I mean, I obviously know Demaris was there because she cooked. When I had everyone at my crib, yeah, two birthdays ago, DeMaris cooked a bunch of food that I love. And I had people in my house, and we did karaoke and, yeah, it was fun. I feel like that was one of your best birthdays. I think you really enjoyed yourself. I had so much fun at that birthday. That type of stuff I like. You guys? It was like six people?
Starting point is 01:15:48 No, I was probably like 15 people there. Oh, you was living? Yeah, probably. That sounds like good. That sounds like, like in and out. And I was shocked because like no, none of my friends live in Jersey. So I was like, wow. It's your birthday. I feel celebrated. I'm going to come out. Exactly. I feel seen. What about you, do, Maris? You got a birthday dinner.
Starting point is 01:16:04 It depends. If it's somebody else's birthday, kickback. If it's my birthday dinner. OD. I like that. If it's my birthday, Grammy ready. be Grammy ready at 9 o'clock on the carpet. I'm not that girl. I'm not that girl with my birthday. Because I don't know because this is my thing. I'm not that. No, when it comes to, no, y'all.
Starting point is 01:16:25 Are you not organizing a fucking theater event for your birthday? I'm listening. That's why I just said. When is your birthday? March 26. And you're starting organizations for your birthday now. Like you're organizing birthday shit now. Actually, I just gave up.
Starting point is 01:16:36 I don't want it because it's too much stress. But that's the thing. When it comes to my birthday, I don't rely on other people. What always ends up happening. for my birthday, I always end up in another state or country with like two of my friends. So cool. Like I'm not one of those people that's like, oh my God, you didn't come to my birthday dinner. You didn't this.
Starting point is 01:16:50 Yo, you can come. You can not come. Whatever. My birthday dinners are always paid for by my male friends or whoever I'm dating at the time. So you know all you got to do is show up and be cute. You don't want to do that. That's not you. I'm going to have a good time regardless because I value my birthday is really important to me.
Starting point is 01:17:03 So I really value it. So I don't let other people fuck it up. So worrying about if other people are having fun and oh, is this going to cost too much for other people? Yeah. Right. Putting in their budget. I'm not doing that because I'm not paying for this shit. This nigga is.
Starting point is 01:17:14 So I don't care about what you can or can't afford. So I don't think about shit like that on my birthday. That's why I said if there's somebody else's kick back, go. We can have a good time. If it's mine, I can do a birthday dinner. Somebody else to pay for her. You know how crazy it would be if I'm putting the birthday dinner together for my girl and she has male friends?
Starting point is 01:17:32 And it's like, but those are like, it's some male friends that I've never met. You think I'm paying for them niggis to eat? Probably not. I probably would not happen. My male friends would battle you for the bill. They would battle. I ain't got a battle. I'll give up quick. You know, battle.
Starting point is 01:17:45 Oh, hey, fam, all you, y'r? I would feel... You're not letting another nigga pay for your girl birthday dinner. Of course not. I would also feel weird. Like, if you were dating someone and I was at your birthday dinner, I would feel very awkward, like, paying. That's, I feel like we see that again?
Starting point is 01:18:01 That's like a man-cove. What? That is true. That is moving. Paying for... He's saying if Demaris was dating someone seriously and Rory having to be the dinner and he covered the dinner.
Starting point is 01:18:10 That I would feel uncomfortable. It's her birthday? Yeah. Oh yeah. No, that's what I just said. I'm not letting a guy pay for my girl's birthday. But then again, there's kind of a hierarchy, though, because you guys are my millionaire friends. So my millionaire friends are allowed to pay for the birthday dinner without anybody looking crazy.
Starting point is 01:18:26 Me and Ma took you to a birthday dinner, whatever year that was. Yeah. And she stayed in the bathroom the whole night talking to Greg. That was part two. That was my, I was not talking to Greg. I was in the bathroom crying because my best friend. died that year and I was depressed. Oh, how do you feel now?
Starting point is 01:18:42 Yeah. How do you feel now? That was my first birthday without. I didn't know. Nothing changed. I didn't know. I know that me and Rory was at the table. Who the fuck is Greg?
Starting point is 01:18:51 By the way? I'm like, is that a funny name? Is his name not Greg or Craig? I don't know. Oh. You might get her in trouble. Sorry.
Starting point is 01:18:59 I'm jammed her up. No, but it's Greg. No, we took, we took the Maris out to eat on her birthday and she was in the bathroom all the time. I didn't know you were crying, though. So I won't know. That was different. What was the spot that Drake says?
Starting point is 01:19:10 one of those Migos versus. It was nice guys. No, but we went to dinner before. Delilah's? He took me to, they took me to Delilah one night, night two when Maul invited that girl. Yeah, homey coordinate. Is this in LA? What?
Starting point is 01:19:25 Wollies. Oh. And you were sharing birthday? Yo, don't do that. I did not invite C. That's crazy. I didn't invite her. Sorry, I wanted to joggy memory.
Starting point is 01:19:33 Okay. Remember she was sharing a birthday with Michael B. Jordan that night? Yeah, you did. He was at the other table. That was the hamson. No, that was... Damn, he said they look alike. No, wait, it was Michael Michael B. Jordan?
Starting point is 01:19:44 Him and Lori walked out, yeah. Yeah. I don't know if you, was she there yet? I wasn't... You were late to your own birthday dinner? Of course. Shocker. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:19:50 You were staying at the same hotel as us. Michael B. Jordan's birthday's February 9th. They made that up. No, he didn't have it. It wasn't his birthday. He was just a launch. He did something. Something happened.
Starting point is 01:20:01 Michael B. Jordan could just be places and it and not be his birthday. Yeah, like he could go out there. Yeah. He can just go have dinner with his girls. He specifically said it was another birthday party. He said they, No, now that I remember, it may have been a launch of something. It was a party in the private room in the back.
Starting point is 01:20:14 Yeah. That's cool. Oh, that's why we, yeah, because we tried to get the private room. They wouldn't let us. And Michael B got it. And it was, it was awkward because my home boy that was there with us, him and Mike have a little history. So it was kind of awkward. Wait, Bay.
Starting point is 01:20:26 Bay has a Crip Bay? Wait, now that I think about it. Crip. Was Dampson at that dinner? No, I don't know. No, he was at the club. Okay. That would have been crazy.
Starting point is 01:20:39 Yeah. He's been plotting. On Demaris? No. No, Lori Hartford. Oh, my bad. I hadn't even put that together, my bad.
Starting point is 01:20:51 Anyways, this was fun. I think that bell in the background is... It's our time. Is that the Patreon bell? Yeah, that's the wrap it up. Oh, it is time for Patreon. Let's go. Is it?
Starting point is 01:21:00 Let's go. All right, well, we'll see you on Patreon. Because I do want to talk about this whole, Tremont Green. I can't wait for your perspective on this. On Dremont? I hope it's the opposite of mine. I have a real perspective on Dremont Green.
Starting point is 01:21:18 Okay. And we can, we can argue about it on Patreon. Patreon.comfors slash new or Ramon. Peace. No one. A win is a win. A win is a win. I don't care which I'm saying.
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