New Rory & MAL - Episode 23 | “Thou Shall Not Ghost” (feat. Bible Brianda)

Episode Date: December 3, 2021

Rory and Mal sit down with Brianda from ‘Bible Stories w/Brianda’, and discuss her journey as a born again celibate Christian, her research on Mal & Rory (and our engineer, Eddin), as well as ...her current dating life and biblical interpretations. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoicesSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:01:54 It's just Mall and I, we just start fucking talking. But, you know, episode 23 of the new Rory and all podcast. Welcome, listeners. Brought to you by nobody. Well, somebody. Stitcher, Sirius, Morseus. Okay. It's brought to you here.
Starting point is 00:02:07 And us and Damaris. Brought to you by Damaris. Yes. We have a guest today. We do. I'm excited about this guest, let me be honest with you. This was the first guest. I think we booked after the deal.
Starting point is 00:02:19 It just took some time with scheduling on both our ends. I didn't know that. I was told by a mutual friend about this. this very amazing and intelligent woman in the moment she described her, I said she needs to come on our podcast. Absolutely. Wait, hold on, I said it was all good reasons.
Starting point is 00:02:36 Yeah, no. We had our reasons. Oh, okay, well then. Mostly good, mostly good. Let's tussle. Yeah, mostly good. Wait, also, say the friend. I don't want to disclose anyone's...
Starting point is 00:02:47 Why? It was wheezy. It was wheezy. It was just weas. She's incredible. Just wheezy. She's incredible. She's literally my lifeline.
Starting point is 00:02:54 I love her. Well, not my real lifeline. So, Brianda, please introduce yourself. Tell us about yourself. Tell us about your life, where you're at, your podcast. We can get the particulars out of the way because I have a long list of shit I want to get to. Where to begin? Where are you from?
Starting point is 00:03:11 What's your sign? No, I don't do that. Christ is there, son. Thank you, yes. I'm Brianda, born in Boston, raised right outside Boston, Lynn, Massachusetts. I know a lot of people in Lynn listen to your show. Say, pack the cat and have it. There you go.
Starting point is 00:03:27 I like Cape Verdeans. Okay. What? Do you know any caveordians? Yeah. There are a lot of Cape Verdeans in New England. Oh, I know. For sure.
Starting point is 00:03:35 Why did you say it like that, Rory? Because I love Cape Verdeans. Rhode Island. Okay. Is that your type? I would say Cape Verdeans would fall under my type. Gorgeous women. You too?
Starting point is 00:03:44 Women. I'm just women. Oh, okay. All across the board. Just women. Yeah? Yeah. You have a very nice energy.
Starting point is 00:03:50 Do I? Yeah. Well, the both of you do. You know, I've been trying to tell people that for years and they just keep denying it. You really do. You see how you just noticed that off the, you know what I mean? Did you see how I just pivoted my intro to talk more about you? Absolutely.
Starting point is 00:04:01 All right. I'm uncomfortable. Tell us about yourself, please. So I'm a podcaster. I'm an actor, although I'm not, you know, any, I'm not that big if you IMDB me. It's like two inches long. I am friends with Weezy. She produces my Bible show through her podcasting production company, WTF Media Studios.
Starting point is 00:04:24 They're incredible. Absolutely. Love them over there. And you guys recorded there too. You know how dope it is to have the same background as a brand like your guys? That's like so legendary. Yeah. I get it. Well, actually, I've spoken to Ouzy about that.
Starting point is 00:04:39 I'm not sorry. It's really why we left. It's like, yo, everyone has the same background as us. We love them to death. Thank you, Weezy, Alex, everybody. They were the best. We've talked about that. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:47 Oh, yeah. We saw that. Great. No, I get it. I'm really with my team. No, we're on a contract that we have an exclusivity deal. They cannot work with anyone else. It's us or nothing.
Starting point is 00:04:56 But the reason why I brought up Weezy and my introduction is because before we like move in to this, it'd be important to know our history because I think that's why I'm beginning to bubble in the pod sphere. It's like directly connected to her, man. Like she was a guest on my old show, my dinky little show that got 60 downloads a week. And she came on because we had been recording at the same studio. Long story long, of course, I seized the opportunity and I asked her to come on. She became fond of me somehow, I don't know. And we started getting really close. And I told her how funny.
Starting point is 00:05:31 I also do psychedelics. I'm a psychedelic Christian. But I was telling her, how cool would it be if we did mushrooms and, like, talk about something for her fuse show? Because at that time she had the fuse show. And she goes, wait, why don't you talk about sex stories in the Bible? Come on horrible decisions. I go on horrible decisions. And it was an electric experience in that, you know, you can tell when a conversation is going really well.
Starting point is 00:05:51 Yeah. And in the room, Weesey said, I'm going to invest in you. I will invest my hard-earned money in you. And, like, I'm not going to cry today. I promised myself I wasn't going to cry. We'll try. No, I'm not doing it. I'll cry with you.
Starting point is 00:06:05 He will. I've seen him do it. I'm a cry. Oh, me too. Yeah, crying is fun. Happy cries. Oh, I'm going to cry probably. But she champions.
Starting point is 00:06:15 Sorry, I just heard that. No, yes, weezy is amazing. She is great. Sidebar. Can I share something with you guys? Of course. I don't want to seem like I'm talking too much, though. I have to be a better guest.
Starting point is 00:06:28 No, no, this is fine. My last guest experience wasn't too good. So I'm going to... Who was it with? Poor minds. I love those girls. Lex Andrea. They're incredible.
Starting point is 00:06:35 I've known Lex andrea forever. Well, well, before they ever podcasted. Oh, yeah? Yes. Oh, well, I didn't know. I just met them in Atlanta. They're so great. But that was the first big, you know,
Starting point is 00:06:45 sizable podcast I'd ever been on. And I realized that I need to control too much. and I may be a pretty good host, but it takes a different kind of patience to be a good guest on another show. Especially a podcaster because you feel the need, not that you need to talk, but you need to control a conversation
Starting point is 00:07:01 and keep shit going. I've found that on, I've been a guest on podcasts, and I start asking them questions, and it's like, dog, you're here to be asked questions. So it's tough for podcasters to be guests on podcast. Yeah. Well, it's not, I think that the listeners,
Starting point is 00:07:17 your listeners would love it if I started asking questions, actually, So I don't mind that so much, but it's when you want to control the conversation and not let them drive. That's not pleasurable to the audience's ears because they're here for the, their homies with the host. You're in our house. Yeah. That appearance, well, we'll get into it later, but it was a specific situation that was happening with me during that time where I was like in a manic episode during that guest appearance. I've never done a podcast manic before.
Starting point is 00:07:46 But when you don't sleep for three days and then you travel and then I hadn't eaten in, that triggers mania for me. If I were to do a podcast where I wasn't manic, I would have done no podcast so far. Oh, yeah? How do you do it? But that's interesting with podcasting. People don't realize that, hey,
Starting point is 00:08:00 you're also going through other things in your life. And sorry, I can't be entertaining today. I'm like, wait, I'm curious because I don't know how to, I don't know how to do it. And I actually am struggling with dealing with my mania and also upkeeping a show, which is a job. How do you manage that? You have to do that vulnerability times 10
Starting point is 00:08:18 and use this as your own mental therapy and not think about what the guest is going to think about it because the beauty of podcasting, God willing, I'm not saying that sarcastic, you will be able to do another episode. So you have to understand you won't be held. Well, you will be, but you have to feel okay with not being held
Starting point is 00:08:37 to the last episode in what you said. I can be manic and say some shit I'm feeling at the time. Think about it, come back, use this as a way to get it out. Next episode, hey, I was fucking wilding, or I was feeling this way at this time. That is the beauty of podcasting. There will be another episode. Not to clean shit up, but you're living in real time and expressing things in real time.
Starting point is 00:08:56 And if the audience wants to hold you to that, that's, come on. You can't control that shit. But you will build an audience knowing that they're going into here real shit in real time. And that, okay, they may feel differently the next day. I can't hold them to this. Now, what you said when you're building your audience, they have more grace on you. If you're on someone else's territory, they got zero grace. Oh, none at all.
Starting point is 00:09:17 So I used that appearance. I brought that appearance to my psychiatrist and my psychologist. Normally I don't show them my work stuff. I don't. I like to keep that boundary up, but I had to because I was like, no, this is the mania. This is what it looks like. And that's legit how they diagnosed me with bipolar. I had already been screened and they had been monitoring me for the last six or seven months.
Starting point is 00:09:39 Just because if I had to be on mood stabilizers, I'd want to freaking know. We tried everything else, you know. And that was the episode. and I was like, well, damn. And on top of that, because I was manic, it wasn't that I was being dishonest or I was someone else. My worst insecurities were amplified. Sure.
Starting point is 00:09:56 Like, that need to control. I need to know how you feel about me, so let me actually tell you more than you need to. Like, I'm so uncomfortable in ambivalence that I'm going to control the space. Yeah. And meanwhile, you're being more of the qualities you hate because you're trying to overcompensate for them.
Starting point is 00:10:10 I understand. I'd totally get it. Oh, look at our intro already. Yeah. I can't wait to read you my name. notes on you guys. Should we start there? Let's start there, please.
Starting point is 00:10:20 Oh, I'd be thrilled. Let me grab. So I, my listeners who are going to be watching this, hi Bible Babes. That's the name of them? My Bible Babes. I kind of like the Bible Babes. I kind of like the Bible Bayes. My BBs.
Starting point is 00:10:31 You guys think it was Bible Brianda. It's actually a Bible Babe. But I thought it was big butt, but that's just. Oh, I don't have that and you would quickly find out. Oh, okay. I'm sorry. Don't watch me leave. She was sitting down when you walked in?
Starting point is 00:10:41 Yeah, I just didn't look at it. Oh, you guys, I am not, probably not your type. I'm like, but I'm cute though, impersonable, but who needs that? No, that's a good thing. Missionary. Honestly, that's my... We'll get to her. I have to be better. Lord, please transform my heart. Wait, let me get...
Starting point is 00:10:58 Okay, so you guys, for those of you don't know me, I take files on everyone. Edin has a file too. I want to hear his as well, but go ahead. Okay, go. His is short. We'd love to hear Eddie's files. But need to... Thank you, Hay-Suce. That's so creepy.
Starting point is 00:11:11 That's the creepiest. But ahead of my appearance, here. I wanted to do some research on you guys and stuff like that. And I don't do too much research because I do like to ask like I want to get to know you guys for real for real, not on some like, I already know those bloominious. That's fucking weird. But I did want to just get a grasp on what I was walking into and I think that's a, every podcaster should know that. Be prepared. And the internet never lies.
Starting point is 00:11:37 Correct. They never do. No. Never. Not a soul. I'm sure it's nothing but facts you have in front of you right now. All authentic accuracy always. For sure. Moving right along. These notes were based on your recent horrible decisions appearance. Okay. All right.
Starting point is 00:11:53 Shout out to those girls. Check out that episode. It was great. It was very, very engaging. And I don't watch Weezy's show that much, but that was the last one that I saw. That's our people's. That's like, man. Easy conversations.
Starting point is 00:12:05 It was very entertaining content. Okay, who would like me to attack them first? You can attack me? You first? Yeah. Ma. Yes. That's me. These are my files, okay?
Starting point is 00:12:18 Okay. Just objective observations. Okay. I'm just listening. All right. 40 single question mark. Why do New York boys have trouble giving into love? Is it because their careers fulfill them enough?
Starting point is 00:12:31 Never been in love. Successful, attractive, how? But very sure of who he is and who he isn't. Answers questions with little hesitation, but isn't afraid to take a beat before revealing information. Not quite an observation, just an assumption on Mall, okay? Have you met? Y'all have met before, right? No.
Starting point is 00:12:50 Oh, I've seen you, but I'm too nervous. I have anxiety. I don't know. I'm never approached. Where'd you see me at? At the horrible show, the live show. Oh, okay, okay. That was spot on.
Starting point is 00:12:58 The power of Jesus made you a psychic. No. Oh, blaspheme. True religion. The last one on Mall is, not quite an observation, just an assumption or theory. Maul could have avoidant attachment styles quick to cut off so as to not reveal his own insecurities.
Starting point is 00:13:16 Now, Rory, you're next. Wait, we can't do it. Maul can't reply? Oh, DeMaris said she's been seeing us. I agree with everything that you just said. I want to give more a moment to respond. I think your notes are great. I mean, I don't know if they're accurate, but I'll take it.
Starting point is 00:13:34 I'm here to, I'm willing to receive today. Well, that's not even to receive. It's just more of a stranger. Yeah. So I'm down. I want them to change because I want to get to know you more. Yeah, no. I mean, yes, 40, single.
Starting point is 00:13:49 Oh, Maul, you got great skin. Do I? Great skin. Are you ever stressed? No. Must be nice. Must be nice, yeah. Well, I'm crazy.
Starting point is 00:13:59 Why stress? Why? Imagine if you could control it. No, that's a great question. Could you imagine? Let me just turn on my stress switch. Why are you stressed today? Why stress?
Starting point is 00:14:10 Let me just stop being it. Maul, what kind of question is that? I live in a stress to state. Yeah, but you can't, because what's going to happen is going to happen. Whether you stress it not. You're right, no, I know what I mean? So it's like, why stress yourself? Why I lose your hair at 24?
Starting point is 00:14:25 No, for sure. Why I, like, have erectile dysfunction. I'm only, I'm 31, okay? I'm not 24. How old are you guys, both of you? I'm 40. Okay, I already do that. 31.
Starting point is 00:14:34 31. Okay. I know, I look 40. He looks 31. I get it. I wasn't going to say it. I'm kidding. You know white people age like bananas on top of the fridge.
Starting point is 00:14:44 You know what? You're not wrong. I have a good skincare routine. And I'm reverse catfish. Reverse catfish. Oh, I've seen it. Not with guys, though. Guys are pretty accurate presenting. Women, though, these internet influencers,
Starting point is 00:14:55 they look nothing like their Instagram. Their Instagram presents something else. And I'll see them in person. And I'm like, that can't possibly be you. Holy moly, what are you doing in your photos? That's a crime. whatever, but I know judgment, whatever the girls need to do to pay their bills. I'm all about women, you know, making money.
Starting point is 00:15:14 Would you like me to go to you? Attack me. All right. Rory notes per their most recent horrible decision appearance. Depressive. Hey, brother. That's me too. Takes one and no one.
Starting point is 00:15:26 It's like when bus drivers wave at each other. The first thing was, you know when bus drivers drive by each other, like each other, wave, to see each other. That's, I just, I just. I sense that in your sense of humor. So depressive takes opposing angles that cut like a knife, but he sandwiches them in affirming statements.
Starting point is 00:15:48 Indicative of thoughtfulness, intentional communication styles. This is again an assumption, I don't know, intuitive, has been hurt by a woman, mom, mother figure, I don't know. Hyper aware, leans into the truth of any conversation and milks it dry, L.O.L. Childish laugh probably really enjoys making other people feel safe and loved, but maybe has a difficult time receiving that same thing. Razor-sharp listener and self-deprecating. So we're the same.
Starting point is 00:16:16 Is that my bio? No, you guys are not the same. Can you text me that? I think so. You think those observations were the same? DeMaris just asked, seriously, he's a bio. Can I just send that? Similar in that we're all, I mean.
Starting point is 00:16:29 We're all God's children. No, no. Also, I'm in a little bit of this, both of you guys is. I feel like the reason why it resonates is because we possess a little bit of it ourselves and we can identify with it. That's really really good. So if you find any similarities, it must be that. It wasn't.
Starting point is 00:16:44 I agree with you. No, that's definitely how you do see things in people when you see characteristics of yourself. I get it. I would like to know if it was accurate if the listeners kind of. I'm telling you, I thought mine was pretty accurate. Oh, cool. Well, I'm- Our listeners think that I'm gay.
Starting point is 00:17:00 Really? Oh, you don't get gay. And so does my mother. You don't, your mom thinks he's gay. She started the rumor. What? I mean, nothing wrong. I love gay people, but I'm not gay.
Starting point is 00:17:10 Yeah. I mean, why would you? Because they can't attach me to a woman. Like, they've never seen me, like, you know what I mean? Oh, I have a question for you guys. It must be impossible to cheat or even think about it. Because when you're famous, how do you even... Why do you keep saying we're famous?
Starting point is 00:17:26 Yeah, we're not famous. Oh, well, the Star Meter begs to differ. Here's the thing. Women don't really listen to podcasts like that. So we're famous to like a lot of dudes that like Jada kiss I ain't no woman I love fuck girls What? Like you would think our fan base who we're famous to like is really
Starting point is 00:17:46 I'm famous to like the guy I works at CVS D block Yeah like he goes crazy when I went in there to get baby wipes If I go to SOBs for an open mic They part the C's for me But like I don't walk into Starlets And everyone's like oh my God I had to wait online
Starting point is 00:18:01 That podcaster Yeah I had to wait online I bet you the demographic of FedEx workers that love you is probably crazy. Oh, listen, I just moved. And all three of the movers, well in their 40s, men were like, oh, my God, we listen to you. Yeah, we love you. Every day. Really?
Starting point is 00:18:21 But never am I walking and see a young lady that's like, hey. So you don't get recognized? Those really misogynistic jokes you made? Oh, recognized, yes. But famous? I wouldn't say famous. You are. So Weezy told me, she said, hey.
Starting point is 00:18:33 this is just a quick rundown of who she is. She's a Bible podcaster who is currently celibate and tells funny stories of the Bible on her podcast. So naturally, the celibacy thing was one of the first things that came to my mind as far as questions. I know Ma wanted to ask that. So we can start there. You have always been celibate, currently celibate. How long have you been celibate? You can't always be celibate.
Starting point is 00:19:00 You're not a virgin. No, no. Oh, sorry, just perped. Where do I begin? I'll start with this. I recently counted how many days it's been since I've seen a dick up close. And it was 1,194 today. I'm sure if you check your private DMs, someone sent it.
Starting point is 00:19:23 Almost for you. And unsolicited. Damn it, I bet you'd be it. You mean like in real life? Yes, in real life. And please don't send me that. Please, people. Yeah, that's nasty.
Starting point is 00:19:35 Why would you open up that can of worms? Rory! I did the internet open that can of worms. I did. I don't need to tell men to send dickpicks, I promise you. The answer is since 2018, and I know I didn't grow up with any religion. So why would I, celibacy is abstinence because of religion or some kind of spiritual practice. And I was just, you know, I was living in New York City.
Starting point is 00:20:01 obviously. I've been here since 2011, and I realized that a lot of my worst attributes were, again, amplified, just like that story I told. They were amplified because I would use sex. I would yield my sex to manipulate a man almost too, and it made me feel spiritually sick. I didn't feel like it was right. But also, on the same flip side, I wasn't always just, I'm not the villain either, They're always. We're all kind of a little bit of a villain if you think about it. On the flip side, I noticed that men would yield their dick as power too. Like, and I, because a man was having sex with me and I was feeling these pleasurable sensations, I automatically thought I loved them. Oh my God. This is my future husband. This is it. This is it. And then it just, it, it completely
Starting point is 00:20:55 skewed my perception of what was actually occurring. And it is, it's only now in how much, hindsight that I realized that oh my god that man didn't love me like that man was manipulating me I was like 22 23 but no they knew exactly what they were doing men know especially I was fucking men in there they were older and they know exactly the reason why they like younger girls is another reason is that a it's obviously a physical youthful thing whatever maybe but also you get you have them tied around your finger and they may not even be conscious about it you know I think it's something there's something primal about that to that desire for that youthful, more impressionable woman.
Starting point is 00:21:32 Anywho, I found that I was having sex that was like torturous almost. Like I would cry sometimes after I had orgasm. I was feeling incredible bats of like shame and guilt and I hated it. You would cry after he made you orgasm? Sometimes, sometimes, yeah. The last, the one I knew that, oh, no, this is it. My, I hooked up with my friend who's a comic and we're homies now. We're friends.
Starting point is 00:21:59 I remember just sobbing on his bed. And that's when I felt convicted. Probably great material for a comic. You know what? So he fucked the Jesus out of you? Is what you saying? No, he fucked the Jesus into me. So I was going to ask,
Starting point is 00:22:19 did the celibacy come first, then religion, or religion and then celibacy? It was not called celibacy. I was tabling sex for a couple months. Got you. Taking a break. Yeah, but at this point, I heard my call, though.
Starting point is 00:22:33 So I had already heard my call, or what they call, like, your encounter with the Lord, which happened under the influence of acid, but it was really transformative. And I'm a Bible and relationship with God Christian over church Christian, because that's just the accuracy. I wasn't transformed by a church or through a church. Through man. Hey, man, I didn't say it. But, yeah, also the Bible tells us to be careful of men, skewing things. Men wrote it too, but...
Starting point is 00:23:00 Yeah. We're gonna get there. This is... Let me just say... What are we can get to? I want to get there. I don't know. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:23:08 So explain this acid trip. Were you alone? Did someone say, hey, let's take acid together? I... Before you answer that, was the gentleman Spanish, the last guy you got sex with? No. But my last boyfriend was... It's not a lot of Spanish.
Starting point is 00:23:25 It's not a lot of Spanish. My last boyfriend was Hispanic, but no, he was not. He was black? No. He's a white man. That's starting there. Let's start. I'm kidding. But no, he's just a great guy. He was a great guy. You know what I realized too? Oh, another thing. Jesus was not white, but another thing. I'm aware. Okay. I represent Jesus. I got us. Yeah, when I found out as an Irish Catholic well into my 20s that Jesus was not white, when I tell you, you thought Santa Claus was a blow.
Starting point is 00:23:52 When I found out Jesus wasn't white. Oh, man. Oh, no. I lost my train of thought. Okay. You said something I wanted to respond to. A white man. The last guy. He had sex with. Oh, I lost it. I lost the moment.
Starting point is 00:24:05 It's okay. We'll get back to it. The acid trip. Was this alone? Walk me through the acid trip that led to the religious experience. Sure. I sound like a broken record because I just explained this on my episode with Ian Dunlap. You guys know him? Yes.
Starting point is 00:24:18 The master investor. Yeah, the master investor. We had such a great sit down. It was unplanned. And he was just in the studio. He wanted to meet me. And he looked so dapper. I was in a dress.
Starting point is 00:24:27 That was a $100 bill. I didn't know that he was going to be there So I said oh no this is the Lord Was this an acid trip too? No, this was last week Okay No and it wasn't an acid trip But I just knew that the Lord presents himself
Starting point is 00:24:39 In very specific and kind of like poetic ways And that was one of them Because of that I had to pack We have a cubby at WTF Media Studios I packed extra outfits in there Just in case I passed by someone That may want to sit down for 20, 30 minutes or something And I have something to change in
Starting point is 00:24:53 Because on my show I dress up and I do stuff But yeah that was the Lord And Ian asked me the same thing and it bears repeating here because this is such a, you know, your people don't know me. So my friend at the time was meditating. This is how the interest into psychedelic started. And she would have been meditating. And I was so perplexed out.
Starting point is 00:25:16 I didn't know anything about meditation. I was 24 years old at this time. And she was like, oh, come on. And I was telling her about my thoughts and stuff. And, you know, I was starting to get dark. And that's the scariest part is like, oh, man, this is going to be. It's going to be forever? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:29 Oh, you know? So I might as well start getting tools and strategies to deal with this shit, you know? And she taught me the rudimentary basics on how to meditate. Cool. A couple months of that, and I was really getting the hang of it using this app called 10% happier app. They're incredible. I can't recommend them enough. And then she said, hey, I just got some acid.
Starting point is 00:25:51 My friend got acid. Want to try it? I just turned 25. She was like, this is like my birthday present for you or something. And we were older. We're 25 doing acid for the first time. We were in her apartment. Very responsible.
Starting point is 00:26:03 Her roommate was our babysitter. We had fresh snacks, water, tea. Oh, y'all was prepared. The right way. Oh, exactly. We had my, like, the Bible app was on my phone open already because I like history. I like theology. We had coloring books.
Starting point is 00:26:15 It was so great. We were there. The intention was to garner some kind of insight. This was like acid summer camp. No, this sounds great. Yeah. The first time I did it was in my friend's basement. They had like 14 and didn't go well.
Starting point is 00:26:26 Oh, I wouldn't record, yeah. I needed coloring books, but I know. I like to think that I make content for when my nieces are, you know, my nieces are 6, 7, 8, and 10. And I want them to go back to YouTube and watch stuff like this of their auntie, and I want them to know how I did things. Because it really is the truth. You know, if 10, 15 years from now, my nieces watch this, wait till you're 25 to do psychedelics or 2425. With chaperones and coloring books. Yes.
Starting point is 00:26:55 I know it's lame to actually. be responsible. Yeah, right? But like, do that. This is nothing to mess with, especially I also talk a lot about my own psychoses and stuff like that. Like, some people should not be doing psychedelics.
Starting point is 00:27:06 If you already have an agitated psychosis, stop it. Sure. So I, during that experience, I, during my peak, it felt like the euphoria was so intense. I'd never felt anything like it.
Starting point is 00:27:22 It felt almost like climaxing almost. But I say that only so, only to convey the intensity of it. And it was like this like cloudy pastel, geometric, like peak almost approaching. And I, for the first time in probably the better half of like a year felt utter peace. And all of a sudden it was like, I didn't feel any of those thoughts anymore. Oh my God, now this is it. Okay.
Starting point is 00:27:59 So I just started praying and meditating. I was like, this is the place to do it. And just like that, because the Lord knows how to get to you, he knows how to lube you up. Anything, I put this on a moral of the story on my show, but anytime you think that your external circumstances are set up against you or like that they're stifling you, you just know that that is a form of preparation. What stifling the body does not stifle the spirit. And this is like, this is a freaking perfect example of that. And the Lord presented himself to me right after. And I, it was really an emotional thing.
Starting point is 00:28:34 And he just told me that I'm loved and I'm worthy of this body. And I gave you this body. And you have a gift. And this is a gift. Life is a gift. Remember that. And ever since that day, I made it a point to make my worship and my Bible studies and my devotionals a priority.
Starting point is 00:28:56 Just like going to the. gym, drinking water, eating. Actually, my devotional is above eating, actually. So, and even then, I hadn't called it celibacy yet. I just knew that I wanted to table whatever impeded on my, my, pains. During that acid trip, though, and God presenting himself, did you think specifically Christianity? Because I'm of the belief that we're all just taking different highways to the same God. Everyone's just practicing different. We're all calling it different. It's still the same one. we all just choose different paths to get to it. Why Christian, like in that acid trip, was it like New Testament?
Starting point is 00:29:36 Yeah. Okay. Interesting. Yeah, just like that. It's as simple as that, Rory. And for anyone listening, it's as simple as that. It was Jesus Christ. And that wasn't a doubt.
Starting point is 00:29:47 A lot of other things were in doubt in question internally. But the one thing I knew for certain was that. Would you say you were a bit of a hoe before? No, not at all. Not at all. You don't feel like sex was something that you just was like. No, no, no, no. I've always been pretty vanilla.
Starting point is 00:30:06 I was saying the other day to my producer Clara, I think I have like a, or maybe it's a depression, I think, a lower active libido. And also, sex has never been the top for me. I've just been blessed with really having great selfless lovers. You know, it's not until I started hanging out with hose that I didn't know that men weren't pleasing women. I've only, because my number's not that high either, like, I'll be honest. It really does feel like I'm falling into, no, no, no, no, no, it's not.
Starting point is 00:30:35 But like I've always, it almost feels like, it almost feels like I fell into something accidentally, but it actually makes sense. All my friends are like, oh, Brie never hooked up with dudes like that anyway. The fact that I hooked up with my friend was great. That's why that was the moment was like, this is so out of character. So the celibacy thing wasn't a crazy stretch. because you used to have been taking breaks. For me, it gave it a name. Oh, and the Bible explains this.
Starting point is 00:31:03 Sometimes your faith work should be easeful. If it feels burdensome, there's something you're not addressing. It really will, the more you obey in obedience, it actually compels you to keep being obedient because it fills you with more faith. If I'm disobedient actively, my faith is compromised, period. Okay, well, what if I'm. I have discipline in every part of my life and I see sex as a very healthy thing.
Starting point is 00:31:31 Okay. And it's a very healthy process. I don't do it in an excessive way. Every partner I have is a very respectable thing. Don't treat people wrong during it. Where is sex wrong when it comes to a religion in that capacity? If I'm a really good person and I fuck, where, where's the person that's a really shitty person and then goes, well, I'm celibate because the Bible says it. But meanwhile, they're really just not a good person.
Starting point is 00:31:56 person. There's so many different angles I could take to answer this. We choose to obey the divine law, not just because the Bible says it. It's because we are God-fearing people, not in the fact that we're shivering in our boots with the God, but because we have reverence for our God, and our God is watching us. And when we do not obey the divine laws, we know that our sovereign God is witnessing that. That causes spiritual warfare within anyone who is a believer. Now, I want to go back to your saying, well, what if it's a good person? I had a guy recently sort of say that, because you know, guys are weasels. Sometimes they'll tell you they're Christian, they don't know anything about the text. They're not practicing. They just want to take me out. It's so, not pathetic, but it's
Starting point is 00:32:54 like that's in my nose too by the way it's annoying i cool we can talk about that but that's annoying like i i if you tell me that you're a christian and you are you would not be having conversations like now what if i'm a good person and whatever it's like that's ill-placed for in my eyes and i i i like i know how i like to be treated and that's not how i want to be treated but a christian man would know that which is why i'm like huh you may say you're christian you know but maybe you're not practicing right which to each your own read your bibles um um for those who fall under that umbrella.
Starting point is 00:33:26 Because there are a lot of people who will never deny Jesus. I guarantee you that a good chunk of your listeners identify as Christian, but have never read the word, have casual sex and casual, and participate in worldly stuff, whatever. But they would never dare say Jesus is not king. Those people that I said read the Bible are for them. You're talking about the Easter and Christmas crowd? The people that go to church.
Starting point is 00:33:50 Some of them fall under that in the diagram. They were raised in the church. and as they got older and didn't have to go. They don't have to go anymore. So what I'm saying is, oh, yeah, there are some people that, like, are deconstructing, but have so much faith. And because my faith is actually so young, I call my Bible Babes because I'm a babe in the faith. I make Christian content for the misfits in the middle, the misfits that were in the world for a really long time
Starting point is 00:34:12 and we're working it out together. That's my community because I'm hated by both. A lot of atheists don't like me and a lot of evangelists also don't like me. I can see that for sure. But there's a really great. weird if not like atheists are odd to me. Actually, they warm up. If you watch multiple episodes of my show, they warm up.
Starting point is 00:34:30 I get haters come back. A lot of them. And I think it's because once you remove your own perception of what you may think I may be saying and just listen, it's very disarming. And I really do make content for everybody. Which is what Jesus wants for us. Well, when people hate you, it's because of their own insecurities and things like that. Well, I think the stigma that comes from a lot of Christians. religious people in general as if they feel, I'm not saying this about you at all, because I haven't
Starting point is 00:34:57 caught that at all, that they are better than everyone else because they are this religious person. And as we've seen in our neighborhoods, usually the people that are the most religious, God-fearing people are the biggest pieces of shit in the neighborhood. And they're kind of masking all their bullshit with religion and God. A lot of people in the church in general, like a lot of pastors we see the pedophiles. Listen, I grew up in the Catholic Church. Like you see it all the time Like me personally I'm not
Starting point is 00:35:24 Right I'm not a big religious person But I'm a spiritual person Oh I'll two and one I'll answer it And because I know the listeners are going to be pissed Because I didn't answer the other question But two and one The Bible tells us
Starting point is 00:35:35 That we are flawed people All of us Absolutely We're all sinners Like all of us And guess what I'll take a step further Your sin
Starting point is 00:35:45 Your sin Your sin and my, like, yours is not better or worse than mine. There's no hierarchy to sin. I don't believe that. I don't believe that either. Now, wait, listen. If you touch kids, I'm not talking about, no, no, no, I'm not talking about what you believe, though.
Starting point is 00:36:01 I believe that. No, no, no, I know, but I'm not referencing the belief. It's not a, it's not an almost like a, it's not even a debate topic in my religion. In my religion, that idea that we're all sinners is more coming from a place of, if you judge your brother or your sister, when you yourself have blood on your hands, regardless, that is totally against our coven there's only one judgeer here one and that is God
Starting point is 00:36:26 and the second you abuse that you are not righteous and you will seek judgment you won't have restoration you'll have judgment so will God judge me for ghost and women like I have to have sex thou shalt not ghost wait let's talk about this why do you why do you
Starting point is 00:36:44 why do you want a ghost No, I don't want to, but it happens sometimes. You just never hook up again. It just kind of isn't, it doesn't go anywhere after that. It's not like a, I don't do it on purpose. It just happens. No, then I don't think so. I don't know why I'm taking your questions, really, both of your questions very literally.
Starting point is 00:37:03 But I don't, I don't know. I can't answer that, actually. I don't know. Because I do the same. I'm ghosting someone right now and I feel really bad about it. You're ghosting someone right now? Right now and I feel bad about it. Every time he texts, I just put it away and pretend like it doesn't exist.
Starting point is 00:37:15 I mean, I'm not, I'm not an Old Testament guy, but the father's son and the holy ghost. It was a thing. It was a thing. So why are you ghosting this gentleman currently? Where's he from? Can I say something? I really, I know he's probably going to listen to this because this is the biggest thing I've ever been on. He wants to know, he's going to listen to him.
Starting point is 00:37:33 He's, he sees everything that you're doing. I know. I got to listen somewhere. Yeah. Right now. Yeah. So do you think she's going to rise after three days after this pod? He's risen.
Starting point is 00:37:42 Oh my gosh, you guys. Let's talk about this boy because it's actually loom. over me. Okay. Let's do it. I, oh, where do I begin? How long have you known each other? Oh, a couple weeks, not long, a month. A month, a month, a month, yes, a month. You've been ghosting them and you only know that a month? But listen, no, no, but I've been ghosting for the last two weeks. That's around average ghost time. Around a month is when you start to ghost. Well, listen, the first, I was doing something different. I think one of my Achilles heels as a person, and I'm not proud of it is I'm a little bit superficial. And I've prayed for,
Starting point is 00:38:12 I literally prayed for the Lord to remove that or minimize that a little bit. If we could please transform my heart because I'm a little shallow and certain things like height or now Christian. And, you know, that's not going to be budging. But like things that don't really matter. And I know that the Lord, whoever is right for me who's going to be my future husband, which is the only thing I'm dating and dating for is my husband potential or the potential for that. and I've been known to myself to be someone who values other things like money, someone who has money and someone has power. A lot of the guys that have dated are over 40.
Starting point is 00:38:49 And I really remint to that. And like, I know that that's, the Lord convicts me to stop doing that because I shouldn't be romanticizing a man based off of money and that and things like that. Because I know myself and I know my own iniquities and my own flaws. And if I'm becoming intimate with someone who is like that, I'm going to fall right in to. you know so I said Lord present me with something an opportunity to practice this can I ask you a question on that though yeah because I've seen plenty of men get mad at women of like oh you just like dudes with money do you like the money for the materialistic things or because money can represent accomplishments in someone that's focused and someone that's driven and someone that's
Starting point is 00:39:30 family I need someone to make me feel safe enough to know that my family's always going to be good no matter what and unfortunately the society money is necessary. Correct. Of course, love would be number one, but. But it's not the case. Oh, I don't even need to love my man. I'm sorry, I've said it before.
Starting point is 00:39:49 I mean, no, it'd be nice to love him. But like, there's so many things that are above love. I need you to respect me. Well, I need you to be a Christian man. I need you to respect me. And I need you to not be offended easily. And then I need you to love me. Or actually, no.
Starting point is 00:40:00 I need you to be family-oriented, good father. And then I need you to love me. Love for me is like last on my list, if I'm being honest. but I'm also 28. I'm no spring chicken. Within Christianity, though, it's a little odd to me that love wouldn't be very high.
Starting point is 00:40:13 Listen. So are we just here all to love Jesus and not each other? Oh, that's, no, but I'm revealing to you my iniquities. I am not here to, you know, like, I am not, I can only share my testimony. Yeah. I am a flawed woman. And you're finding, you're seeing holes. You're flawed woman as well.
Starting point is 00:40:29 100%. Yes, girl. You see it. Oh my God, I want to yassify you. Have you heard of the yesify by? No. And I think I'm cool. Someone yassify.
Starting point is 00:40:39 Rory, please. What is the yesify? Someone pulls something up. Oh my God. I wish you guys had a screen. Yesify. Yesify. It's like where they take like anything.
Starting point is 00:40:46 It could be like the Mona Lisa and the yes. They're like out of the Instagram filter filler in their lives. How do you guys feel about filler on the lips? Oh, we've addressed this. I feel like it's like kissing the tire at the playground. Really? We're not done with this guy that you're ghosting. So he's not so old enough.
Starting point is 00:41:04 He doesn't have enough money. No, no, no, no. He has money. Well, here's the thing. Point of the story, I prayed for the Lord to present me with an opportunity to practice this. Because I don't want to be as shallow as I, the human, man, not man, but like the body is. Primally, I lean towards a certain, I want to remove that. It's okay to have preferences.
Starting point is 00:41:22 That's true, too. Yeah, I agree. No, no, no, but that's true too. But when it, I'm in New York, I'm 28, I want to have kids by a certain time, there is a shelf life for women. And I need to start making a few sacrifices now. Like, I don't care about someone being tall. Get over that. So I ask the Lord to present me with opportunities, no matter how they look for me to address that and change that.
Starting point is 00:41:42 You know what's something and being observant, just listening to you something that I'm observing about you? I feel like you're too, like everything has to be perfect. And life isn't perfect. Meanwhile, I'm in chaos and shambles. Yeah, but life isn't perfect. So I feel like you're waiting for like this perfect thing, this perfect. Even in editing your thumbnail, it takes an hour to edit it because you're looking for perfection. I'm trying to eliminate.
Starting point is 00:42:07 Professionally, I'm going to keep that, and I don't want that to change. But in intimacy, I do want that to change. That's why I'm praying for the Lord to change that. And he provided me with an opportunity. Want to hear it? No, I want to hear it. This, he was a fan, I think, of me. He, uh, this is dangerous, but I already know.
Starting point is 00:42:22 And that was the first time I've ever gone, you know, this guy. He's a Bible, babe. I don't know. I don't know. He says not, but he knows a lot. He knows a lot about the Bible. One of his, let me not jump the gun. He DMs me, asks me for info.
Starting point is 00:42:34 He actually was a really great guy. And actually a lot of my theological questions, I ended up asking him because he's so, he just knows a lot about the word, for real. And then I put out NFTs for my podcast. We have NFTs out on OpenC. OpenC.com forward slash Bible Brianda. And he knows a lot about it. So in fact, he's actually very savvy with money and very, the makings of a husband for sure. I mean, I went out with him.
Starting point is 00:43:02 I didn't know what he looked like. Now, of course, you're asking, why didn't you go on his Instagram, Bree? Why don't you go on it? Guess what? I did It was just a photo of his face and a bunch of like Money stuff investing stuff like art But not him and I said oh is this an opportunity? It's scary as hell Does he DM people send me your cash app name and I'll send you a thousand dollars? We had mutuals we had no no we had mutuals so I was like okay I know he's not like did you reach out to the mutuals
Starting point is 00:43:27 Uh one oh god oh wait no no no no I didn't I didn't we got to do better here Hold on I know I have to change I know I know I know I know I know. My friends are a little concerned about me. I'm too trusting with people I know. Listen, I show up to the meeting where we're about to meet. And I don't know. I don't see him for like five minutes.
Starting point is 00:43:46 I'm like trying to find him. I'm just like, where is it? He goes, no, I'm here at the spot. And I go, okay, listen, I'm wearing a X, Y, Z shirt or whatever. Come, or jacket. He comes and I'm a very fab girl. I like to wear heels when I go out. I like to do my makeup.
Starting point is 00:44:01 I'm like, you know, I'm in my garb, in my heels and my, He had on a Nike tech suit. He was 5-4. Lord, remove it, thank you. As a complicated woman, I wouldn't date him either. Okay, listen, wait, so what I'm saying is... Whatever I admitted to be. You didn't hear me complain.
Starting point is 00:44:23 Because 5-4 isn't 5-8. 5-4 isn't 5-9. Oh, yeah, talk that shit. 5-9 is mad, too. Are you 5-9? Yes. Oh, okay. How adorable.
Starting point is 00:44:34 He's not 5-9. What I'm saying is 5-4 is a lot. But, but, oh, my God, is he going to listen. Listen, I think you're great, I'm going to respond to your text. before this comes out. When does this come out? Tomorrow. Oh, crap. Yeah. Oh, okay, I have a couple hours.
Starting point is 00:44:46 What's his IG? I'm not Adam. No. I'm joking. I want to make sure you get this. Can you guys help me? Sir, you need to listen. Can you guys help me? Oh, oh, is that expensive? I'm sorry. Money. Mr. 5.4. We're talking about him, not talking about mall. Wait, listen. Not Mr. 12. I see. Not Mr. 12.
Starting point is 00:45:03 That was a cocaine reference. Jamaris just snorted. You guys. At least Damaris thinks I'm funny. I didn't know. this fact about him but I immediately spotted it as oh okay
Starting point is 00:45:18 this is God I had just prayed for this like two or three days before actually that's what that's what compelled me to confirm because it happened almost like at least I'm very close with my lord and I have a very with our Lord
Starting point is 00:45:31 and I have a very close relationship with him and that he presents himself in ways that are kind of nutty and that's like oh no this is God like love to my own devices I should be failing but he has much favor and mercy on me. But any you, I can see you stacking questions. Stay right there.
Starting point is 00:45:48 Oh, you have no idea. I see. You're like, I'm just waiting. We go on the date and it's beautiful. He is so, he smokes, I smoke weed and I'm a Christian. That already is like tough for people to swallow. But there is a very large stoner Christian community and we actually exist and we're actually really awesome. And we don't look at it as, you know, of course everything can be abused. It says everything in moderation, right? Paul says everything in moderation. But he smokes weed. We like go on this awesome date.
Starting point is 00:46:17 He really was great. Honestly, I'm not even just saying that. For a moment there, almost forgot he was about his height. So I said, oh no, I'm going to go on a second date.
Starting point is 00:46:27 What inch stiletto did you have on? Something, no, no, actually, it was something like this. It was like, because it was winter or fall, so it was cold. Okay.
Starting point is 00:46:34 So I had a, like a, I'm 5, 6, so what would this make me? 59, 510? Somewhere around. Yeah. Yeah. So imagine that, that gap. Compromise. You got to wear A1s with them all the time. Never. So listen.
Starting point is 00:46:50 The next day, but I take them on the second day because I know again, this is beyond me. It's not about what I want. It's about what the Lord wants for me. And that's something that's tough for people to hear. But that's what it is. When you're, when you are a worshipper, a God-freeing person, it's not about what you want or what you believe. What was so amazing about the date, though? The fact that he, we are so spiritually aligned, it was very attractive. to me. Very attractive. And it feels so good to not have to explain myself with certain things. Like when I'm dating, when I date black guys and I like show up in my hair and say, it's like a different thing. Like they know me. I feel like because they had black mothers or like they had, they just know, they know when there's hair in the floor and they don't care about that shit. You put your
Starting point is 00:47:32 bonnet on. Like whatever. You know what I'm saying? It's like some, it's like that, it's like that familiarity only with spirit in the spiritual realm. Got you. Okay. You know, I felt really safe. and it felt really good where I can go on my high tangies and communicate in my ways. And he knows exactly what to call back to. Very wise. A man that honestly, all the makings that I want for a husband, he gave me an amazing advice on things. And I could see myself bettering me as a person. So you're ghosting him for what reason again?
Starting point is 00:47:58 So the second date happens. And for whatever reason, maybe it's my state. Maybe it's the climate. Maybe it's, I don't know what it is. Maybe. Yeah. Who knows? I wasn't quite as gracious on him.
Starting point is 00:48:11 I don't know. And, oh, wait, I do. I hated his shirt that he had on. There are a couple things. What kind of shirt did he have on? Like, oh, this like, I don't know. And his shoes. Oh.
Starting point is 00:48:21 He was ready for the baby shower? What kind of shoes he had one? He had actual shoes on? Like running shoes? Did they have a little... Something. A little heel on him? Again, you're great.
Starting point is 00:48:30 Oh, wait, that's not it. We don't want to, you know, you really are great. And I'm going to, I'm going to hit you up. What's his name? I want to be friends. No, stop it. I just want to talk to him for a second. That's what I let him know.
Starting point is 00:48:38 Okay, so it was so much spiritual connection. And then he wore a... Stop hitting her phone. She's not going to hit you back. I'm just helping the brother out. Was it a U.S. Polo Assassin shirt? Like, what was it? Assassin.
Starting point is 00:48:49 I don't know that. You know that, Brant. This was the thing. This was the straw that broke the camels back. And when I said, oh, this is the last date. I'm going to go on. Lord, I said, abort mission, Lord. Abort mission?
Starting point is 00:49:01 The goodbye. He went to, you know, kiss me on the cheek. And he had to go like this. to do it. You guys I don't this is like the equivalent of a woman
Starting point is 00:49:14 picking you up and putting you on the bed how would that make you feel? Rory? I would love it. You want a woman to pick you up and throw you on the bed. I don't care.
Starting point is 00:49:26 It might be, what if it's our submission night? I don't care. What if we're trading places? Yeah. No, I don't care. As long as that's followed by like some nasty,
Starting point is 00:49:35 sloppy head. You can throw me any way you want to them. Okay, Rory, how do you feel about what I said? Do you understand what I mean? Like, first, well, I'm going towards sexual stuff, and I know that's not what you're talking about. But first night, if Shorty lifted me up, I might feel some type of a way.
Starting point is 00:49:50 If we've been talking for a while and I already know my dominance in that capacity, yeah, we could trade places. I don't ever want to pick up my man. Ever. I mean, I'm slimmed down a little bit too. Yeah, maybe I want to show her how much weight I've lost. So you had to kind of like scooge down to give them a kiss on the cheek.
Starting point is 00:50:09 Yeah, and I can't do it. I can't. Was it on the lips or the cheek? Cheek. Okay. No, I love, you know what I love about Christian guys? They're very, very, practicing Christian guys. They're very, very.
Starting point is 00:50:18 Horny. No. I could imagine. No, they're very, very polite. And they take their courtship seriously. And it's very. All men are polite and have courtship until they get the ass. Fuck off.
Starting point is 00:50:29 That's not true. Okay. There are non-Christian men out there that are polite and do courtship. Until they get the ass. For my checks and balances. I'm 28 in New York City in a city that is not dumped. There are hardly any... I went to Atlanta and I felt at home
Starting point is 00:50:44 because there were so many, like, God-fearing people there, I can be myself almost down there. Down there, I can say scripture and they'll finish it off for me. Well, a lot of those men weren't interested in you because of religious reasons. Maybe not, but regardless, regardless, what I'm saying is New York City is a little different.
Starting point is 00:50:59 It is. Well, you kind of answered my next question already with you having to kneel down to kiss him I've seen with so many relationships a couple has something in common that they love and that drives them for a while and then that's the only thing they have in common once they're in love or together for a long time.
Starting point is 00:51:19 So with looking for a Christian and that's the only thing you'll have in common because you want to compromise rightfully so on certain things what happens in 10 years when literally the only thing y'all have in common is Jesus.
Starting point is 00:51:32 We handle that in-house. Because I've seen other couples do it with music with children, with plenty of things. What I'm saying is we handle that in-house. We're not above our, we're not God, right? We understand that there's only one God. There's a sovereign God and that's it. That means the life that I want to have with my future husband,
Starting point is 00:51:53 I'm looking at 40 plus years together. That's what I'm aiming for. I think that neuroses, what I have on the podcast in my professional life, some of that shows up in other domains. our commitment to our individual relationships with God is what bonds us. Okay, and I'm saying if you're going for 40 years, I understand your relationship with God.
Starting point is 00:52:14 I hope to God as well that he has that same relationship. We're all human. That's not going to keep you all together for 40 years. I understand what you're saying. So don't compromise on the dude that you find physically attractive, because you're going to need that too. No, and I understand that. And it is a mix.
Starting point is 00:52:29 I think it is a mix. I have preferences. I do. What I'm saying is And this is what I don't think is landing But I'm sure other people also feel the same way you're feeling listening to this We will handle it in-house No I think people know what I'm saying when I say that
Starting point is 00:52:44 No matter what We are bonded for life And we handle whatever we go through in-house For sure We'll get them the Tims with the big like six inches on it No I'm saying that whatever happens happens And it happens We're flawed people
Starting point is 00:53:00 whatever's going to happen is going to happen and we're going to handle it in an house. Have you ever had any sexual experience with a woman? Yes. I was coerced by one of my managers at a, I bartended for 10 years. I'll not 10, 8 years. And this was when I was 19. I just started bartending and serving in New York. And I worked at a place that, you know, it's in our job description to wear no clothing.
Starting point is 00:53:25 Yeah. And, you know, New York bartends. I made a lot of money doing it. For the first time, I was able to pay my rent on my own. My mom didn't have to help me. It was like so free. Oh, bartenders make money. Yeah, it was so freeing.
Starting point is 00:53:36 And I'd never seen money like that before. I went from working from at Gristides as a cashier to to be bartending and serving. It's quick, too. You don't have to wait two weeks for a paycheck. And once you see it, it's like a drug. And there is a man there who, and it was in our job description to drink. They wanted us.
Starting point is 00:53:56 That's why I don't know if I'll ever want to work at a bar or. Well, you can't. Right. Isn't it against your religion? Exactly. And I get why. The environment is corrupt and perverse and it just is what it is. Spirits. Yeah. It's called spirits. The church is corrupt and perverse as well, though. Yeah, but I'm not a part of that church. I don't partake in that. And if I did, I wouldn't, I'm not, you know what I'm saying? Yeah. Both can be true. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:54:19 So do you think that you're ultimately supposed to be with a woman? Do you feel that way? Well, let me tell you. No, my manager at that bar restaurant told me while I'm inebriated, in which he was the conductor of all the women there being drunk. He said, if you don't hook up with this woman, let's call her Delilah. If you don't hook up with Delilah tonight, I'm taking you off Fridays and putting you to Saturday mornings. And I, I'm 19 years old. This is the first time. We should call his name actually out there.
Starting point is 00:54:52 Hold on. Hold on. Oh, I know. I know. And I didn't, it wasn't until I had a guest on my show. Her name was Latasha. And she said, oh, that's sexual assault. Like the whole thing coercion
Starting point is 00:55:02 Sexual assault by coercion That's past coercion That's literally a fucking creep That's literally what uh Well coercion's creep too But like that's legitimately sexual assault Especially in a workplace When you're 19 and you're hearing this
Starting point is 00:55:14 And like that's how you make your love I literally went I have to I don't have the wisdom I have now then And I just it haunts me But I know his fucking little hands putting our heads together And watching us like it haunts me That's nasty
Starting point is 00:55:27 And so to answer your question Yes And it wasn't until years later that I realized I'm actually really quite traumatized by that experience. I could imagine. I could definitely imagine. And a lot of women go through it. It's like, we always talk about the extremes of any given topic without highlighting any of the subtleties or the, you know, the nuances in between.
Starting point is 00:55:45 Because to be quite honest, that woman and I had a really dope time and she was really great towards the end of it. She was older than I was. She was more, she wasn't her first time for sure. She was definitely more experienced. Yeah, but she was very, very kind and stuff. So, but there are nuances to sexual assault. And that was my first experience and only I mean, I think I made out with the girl after that, but that was like on some like drunk early 20s stuff. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:56:10 My boyfriends didn't even like it. I did it so I could turn on my boyfriend at the time. He literally was like, I'm not into that. And that's how I knew I really liked him. He didn't care about that. In fact, it's does the opposite. Right. We're together.
Starting point is 00:56:21 That's disrespectful. Okay. And I like that. I want a man that would be disgusted by it. Not disgusted. I want a man that would be uninterested. in those deeds. Okay.
Starting point is 00:56:33 Understandable in your lifestyle. I will ask, because there's lifestyles of vine. That was before I was Christian, by the way. That was before I was Christian. I figured that. Okay. Is there anything about that type of sinning that you do miss? Because there's parts of my life that I've moved on from because they were toxic and I
Starting point is 00:56:52 shouldn't be anywhere around it. But I still do have some fond memories like, oh, that part was fun. I should leave it, but that part was fun. going from atheists to Christian, is there anything in the atheist world that you was like, yo, that was a really good part of my life? I'll tell you right now. For me, it's music. Okay.
Starting point is 00:57:16 And I'm not saying, I mean, I listen to quote unquote worldly music still because I love music too. I make it. I make a lot of dark stuff. And I almost can't even listen to my darker stuff anymore because it doesn't feel holy. and we're not to ingest anything that is of that way. Of course, it's not realistic. I have a whole life to live. I'm going to see, I want to say things, you know?
Starting point is 00:57:37 But I would say it's like my taste in art leans a little more world. My taste in, okay, I gave you something. My text tells me that monogamy is what I should, that's what we need to structure our family around. It is what it is. That is something it doesn't sit right to me naturally, the human, The man, the, I keep saying man, but like the human, you know, the human Brianda, it's funny, on my super trip days was my first podcast, Super Trip Talk. I actually talked about my, like, struggles with finding a boyfriend, even when I had a boyfriend at the time, because I like, I like going out and flirting with guys.
Starting point is 00:58:16 And I actually don't mind if he flirts with other girls and stuff so long as like we come back to, you know. Flirting is natural. But I actually don't even, I used to never get jealous with my boyfriend doing stuff. Maybe it's a little warriorism a little bit too. And I know that's the body me, but my Lord doesn't want me to do that. And I recognize that I'm that I'm turned on by certain things. But that doesn't mean, it's actually a part of my practice to not give in to those things. I will not sacrifice my values for my bodily needs.
Starting point is 00:58:44 And you want your partner to do the same, obviously, because he wasn't into you making out with a girl. It's the only way it works. I'm just making sure it's not Uchiwali and one mic. No, no, both. I'm trying to figure out. Okay. Both. It's um for me right sex is probably one of the most natural things next to breathing and eating probably.
Starting point is 00:59:03 So for you to get a population going. Yeah. So for you to, you know, the celibacy thing. Are we boring you guys? I don't know. No. This is so much. This is great.
Starting point is 00:59:13 I'm having fun. I'm having fun. I'm me too. Me too. Yeah. So the celibacy thing. Why is that something so important to you? Oh, it's so important.
Starting point is 00:59:24 Oh, Maul, it's so important. So, okay, before you answer that, you're celibate, you don't have sex. And I don't masturbate. But you don't masturbate? No. You don't, there's no masturbation. No, but I didn't like masturbating before celibacy either. Like, I was not a Christian and had boyfriends and I didn't masturbate.
Starting point is 00:59:44 Okay, so what? And also when I didn't have boyfriends, I didn't masturbate. Okay. So you haven't, you haven't climaxed or had an orgasm in four years? Not of the bodily kind, but when I pray, I feel. orgasmic sensations? It's not orgasming per se, and also it occurs in meditation as well. It's just a feeling of deep peace.
Starting point is 01:00:07 Like, it's like this euphoric, forward presenting sensation that I can only as a human. I don't even think that there's a word for this term. I don't know or I don't know it. The only thing I can equate it to is an orgasm. But that feeling is not, like, unique to me. A lot of people in the cycle. world psychonauts they describe the similar feeling it's of a peak that happens but I don't need psychedelics for it understandable all right I just really can't believe you haven't like masturbated
Starting point is 01:00:37 the last time I did it well can I be honest with you because I don't like telling you please do Jesus is watching always the last time I did touch myself I hate masturbate I'm a lady I don't know I don't like that word mad ladies masturbate no I know but I'm saying the word I promise you The word itself is like moist for me. Like, man, like, okay. Okay, you don't like the, okay. Yeah, so I'm going to say touching myself, pleasureing myself. Yes.
Starting point is 01:01:03 The last time I did it. Pardon? Getting to know yourself more. There you go. The last time was when I, I dated this guy, two-time divorce. A great guy, though. So physically checked off every single thing. But he's been divorced twice.
Starting point is 01:01:18 Been divorced twice and also not a Christian. Oh, I didn't. This was another guy who said he was. It wasn't his fault. He said he was a Christian. This is one of those cases where he said he was in a quickly, discovered, oh, not the case. But he was actually into the fact that I was celibate.
Starting point is 01:01:30 He was enticed by that. You know, a man at 43, he's seen it all. If you're married twice, he probably wasn't fucking so much to begin with. So that's not a big part of his life. No, he was, he did okay. He did, he had those? He did okay. And there were dancers, dancers, not stripper dancers, like ballet dancers.
Starting point is 01:01:49 Okay. There's a, that's a different kind of like, there's a some kind of, it's almost like insidious about it. like a rich single two-time divorcee man who's really into ballerinas. What in the American Psycho? Anyways. He can't be into feet then. Listen.
Starting point is 01:02:04 Definitely not. Listen, we didn't get that far. Nasty feet. But he was into the eye. Beautiful art form, though. Are you into feet? I like nice feet. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:02:13 It's not like my go-to. No. I said, yeah. More doesn't know if I'm in the feet. I don't know. Oh. I'll give a fuck with Roy's into this. I don't give a fuck.
Starting point is 01:02:24 Me, yeah. I just appreciate. aesthetics on a woman nice teeth nice feet nice hands nice hair and I like say the last dance okay Rory your one-liners are hilarious I hate it because they a lot of them go over me like I don't miss it because you do them when I'm in a thought and I'm like damn it I wish I could have said something but I with my ADD I can't not finish what I'm saying otherwise I lose it but I see you where were we I don't know where we were sex feet two time divorcee yes he the last time I masturbated was, oh, I knew it was a rap after our second date because he was being super sexual
Starting point is 01:02:58 in that dinner, like, almost in a way that was like, oh, but I can't, like, touching me, but I can't, like, things like that. And I was like, oh, wow. And I was so turned on by him. I was like, okay, fuck it. My kryptonite, or what will get me to, like, hook up with a guy, by hookup, I mean, obviously make out or, like, spit in my mouth or whatever. Like, that's the only- regular shit, yeah. Is if I know that I'm not going to date them further. I will do that. I will never do that to a guy that I would consider marrying. If I don't consider marrying you, I'll kiss you. Why? I can't tell you. I'm being honest here. I'm trying to keep it. I'm trying to be vulnerable with you. Listen. So you want to do the 40 year hole? He got to spin your mouth.
Starting point is 01:03:37 No, I know. Oh, but the great part about this is I'm convinced that the person who loves me is going to love pleasuring me. It's going to, it's going to make him feel joy and pleasure watching me feel joy and pleasure. That's an intimate partner. So I don't I worry about that. That's going to happen. I just know that that's going to happen. I have faith. Because you got to have faith, the faith, the faith. That wasn't in the Catholic Church. Anyways. What's your ethnicity? Dominican. Full? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:04:05 Okay. Just Dominican. Dominican. You brought up music before. Do you like the Donna album? Somewhat. Some of the songs. Okay, here's what I'll say. I cannot even name them. That's how infrequently I listen to him. I listened to him like that one time and that's it. two of the songs though I remember feeling oh wow this is good and the rest I was like this feels like secular music but it's not it he's marketing it as Jesus music or worship music but it doesn't make me feel worship so I'm a pass I'd rather just listen to worldly music no it's worshiping yeah yeah yeah what's the line that makes something yeah yeah yeah yeah I don't
Starting point is 01:04:51 like that you're on to something that's exactly what it is I hate it's the line that's something I hate it when people do that like, that like, that power hungry. Ooh, I hate a man who power trips and who desires people to worship them. That's against my religion. But what's the line that draws secular music? Like, what is, all right, now this is secular, this isn't secular. Secular music is there is no reference to God anywhere in the song. Okay.
Starting point is 01:05:19 Worship music is literally a vertical worshiping of the Lord. and sometimes they are horizontal in that. Some of them, like Kirk Franklin's really into the horizontal form of worship, which is like, let's embrace together about the Lord. But I also love the vertical ones that are very, like, intimate, like my religion. Okay. Well, then let me ask you this, because you said on the date, when the guy walked in, you said, oh, this is God showing this to me. And I think on a lot of the Donda songs and other albums,
Starting point is 01:05:47 they mean that say God's name specifically, but they are alluding to a higher power, bringing something into your life. So how is that secular or not secular? Do we have to say Jesus Christ in it? Well, no, it depends on who's the messenger, babe. Who's the messenger? Why does the messenger matter? Absolutely the messenger matters.
Starting point is 01:06:05 There's mad and imperfect people in the Bible. Yes, absolutely. But it's not about the imperfect people. It's about where God is in the story. All those people are flawed and no one should be worshipping King David. I'll tell you that much. We should be worshipping God. Where is God in the story?
Starting point is 01:06:17 That's the misconception with the Bible. And that's what discourages people from continuing reading. It's because they get wrapped up in the characters. in the story arc. Okay. Something logically doesn't make sense. Conway on the Donda album and all his music
Starting point is 01:06:28 discusses getting shot and that's a miracle that he survived. There's no, literally a miracle, there's no reason he should have survived. How is that not him speaking
Starting point is 01:06:35 about God? Is that secular? No, no. He packaged that as a worship album. I'm not saying it reads as secular but it's not as good as worship. So for me, it's almost like, uh,
Starting point is 01:06:47 it's supposed to be making me feel this, but I'll just listen to secular. I listen to something else that makes me feel, a different way. And again, we're talking about me, Brianda, Bible, Brianda, like, I'm not a... Do they even care what I have to say about Donda? Do they?
Starting point is 01:07:01 No, but it's just because you're a religious person. It's not the worship that I fond of. Most of the people that critiqued Donda were not Christians. So that's why asking you, this is why I wanted to know. And I'm trying to figure out where does it have to worship? Like, I think so many
Starting point is 01:07:17 verses, my favorite part about Donda was him bringing artists that aren't typically vulnerable in that space. To that point. No, they didn't worship. They were talking about shit they had been through and that God had brought them through without indirectly saying,
Starting point is 01:07:31 hey, God did this. Because they're not that religious. So that's where I thought that was fine for that middle group you're talking about. Then there's the atheist. Then there's the super religious. Then there's these people,
Starting point is 01:07:42 which is the majority. So I was just curious your opinion on it. And I'm not like a Donda advocate. I'm just, I just think the body of work. I've never talked to somebody really religious about the album. I think maybe it's because I love I have an appreciation for Kanye.
Starting point is 01:07:56 I just thought it was a little subpar. It wasn't, there was more like a ruckus leading up to it than it itself, in my opinion. But you're right. I didn't even think about that. How many people would be enticed to, you know, receive Christ or like, at least lube them up to maybe pray in a different way and more intentional. Well, you're right. And at the end of the day, I'm always going to be about people promoting Jesus.
Starting point is 01:08:20 You know, that's, it really is. it's as simple as that for me. Do I always agree with them? No. I don't agree with everyone. Just because you're a Christian doesn't mean I'm going to rock with you. Right.
Starting point is 01:08:28 I mean, to me the Donda album was just CYOO basketball. What is CYOO? I'm sorry. CYOO basketball was a basketball league that was amongst the churches and there was a lot of kids that were not, they did not go to church. Oh.
Starting point is 01:08:39 And we're in the league just because it was a competitive league. And before each game, you had to say a prayer. We had to pray at the end. Granted, the kids was just there to ball. It didn't convert anyone. But they tried. They tried with basketball. All right.
Starting point is 01:08:54 There was effort. They tried. You had, unfortunately how you described it, not a pleasant bisexual experience in the beginning. What is your view now with religion and the Bible amongst the gay and transgender community? Oh, God. I knew you were going to ask this. I have to. I knew.
Starting point is 01:09:15 Give it to us. I, okay, wait. Could you ask the same thing in a different way? Just so I don't know. Okay, then I don't understand. Do you want to hear Brianda or do you want to hear what my doctrine says about? Like, I don't know what you want. You specifically within your religious studies. Because I know what the Bible says. The Bible also says women also says women shouldn't talk. So I don't particularly go to the Bible. Or be in church. They say that women can be pastors. Are you kidding me? That's so sad. But it's disappointing. It's disappointing. I think that a lot of the written doctrine, especially as it's found in the Old Testament. is really disturbing, especially with their suppression of women. Literally says women shouldn't speak. Yeah. And you should bow down to men.
Starting point is 01:10:02 Yeah. Well, actually, it says that in the New Testament, too. Yeah. But we're talking about the LGBTQ plus, and you may be referencing Leviticus, which is the most famous anti-gay line in the Bible. There is also some anti-homosexual stuff in the New Testament, too. I have been in the world for too long and some of my like favorite people collaborators
Starting point is 01:10:26 are gay people by people, weesey is by she's my everything right now you know I do not care like I would never condemn someone's right to express themselves and to like receive love how do you receive love and who am I to even think anything of it I would
Starting point is 01:10:48 I wouldn't dare to dream. I wouldn't, I've been, I would never let that alter that part of my heart. But also because I don't think that that's what Jesus would want. Jesus wants me to love, like to love on everybody. Then let me ask you this follow up question. Because you had said earlier, make sure you read your Bibles. How do you define in the Bible what you should listen to and what you shouldn't listen to? You should read it all.
Starting point is 01:11:11 And I'll tell you why. Because the book is a library. People think of the book as like one long book. No. No, it's not. The book is a... Chapters. So Bible, if you break down the Latin, Bibla, that is library.
Starting point is 01:11:25 There are, I mean, in my text, 66 books, but for Catholics, it's what, 73? And for Wu-Tang, basic instructions before leaving Earth? Yeah, naturally. So I would urge people to read the entire thing, and this is why it's a historical source text. At the end of the day, y'all can talk as much as you want. But this book was written 2,300 years ago, and it's... still popping. It's still the number one book to this day.
Starting point is 01:11:52 Are we going to smoke weed again? We should. We should smoke weed. Do you have some right now? One thing you never have to ask me. I have a little baby Jay. Pre-rode. I have weed. I always have weed on me. Always. Wow. Is that your final question? I think this is, I think this is
Starting point is 01:12:10 the start of a really great friendship. Me too. I'm very fond of what you guys are built. I would like to call you when I'm having like sinning moments. Like when I feel like I'm about to sin. Can I call you? Sure. You can like walk me. Sure. I mean, yeah, I'm here for you.
Starting point is 01:12:22 That's what we do on my Patreon too. Like we're there. We have like prayer. You got a subscribe. You got to subscribe. Of course. No, no, no. I'll subscribe if I have to.
Starting point is 01:12:30 No. No, we're friends now. But what I'm saying is I'm, I do send people scripture. Like, I'm just, that's the kind of friend I am. And I feel like that's what I've been called to do is support and help. Or how about like when a woman is like pressing me in my text messages like, like, why you don't call me? How about you like, I send you like what she said and you respond and I copy and paste what you say and send it to her. I'm going to be honest with you.
Starting point is 01:12:54 I work so much in the show. I'll try to get to it. Yeah. But if it's stuff about, no, no, no, but there are certain things. My red, my not red flag. The thing that I always go to is in times of duress and grief. And there are certain things that I put on high priority or what do you call them like maintenance tickets like high urgency. That thing you just listed about the girl is not high urgency for me.
Starting point is 01:13:14 You'll be okay. You're a big boy man person. You know I think it would be a good thing for your Patreon. Don't set a price for it. Just put 10% of your income. That's funny. That's really good. And put Jesus is watching right after that.
Starting point is 01:13:29 Because when I know people feel like Jesus is watching and like, okay, I guess I got to give a $50. Is there a Bible scripture that you would put to this experience on this podcast that you could relate to, compare? Oh, wow. Oh, wow. Should I do the one about fecal matter? No, I'll save that one. Oh, okay. Peagle does matter, by the way.
Starting point is 01:13:51 I mean, it's one of our bodily functions. Just like sex. Just like Christ. And if you want to come down those two things. Okay. I think it is. I'm with you. Yeah, he's another thing.
Starting point is 01:14:04 I'm sitting out of my business. So I would say one thing, yeah. And it was, I think it's very, very appropriate for the discussions that we've had today. And I'll pick. Wow, there's so many. Okay. Proverbs 3-5. Lean not on your own understanding.
Starting point is 01:14:28 And that's where I'll leave it. Well, guys, it's been great. This has been really great. We're going to smoke some good hybrids together. I can tell. Yeah. Oh, hybrid is what I smoke. He's not, no, he said he's trying to take you to a highbridge.
Starting point is 01:14:42 Oh, that's what I said. Hybrid, too. No, he wants to take you to a hybrid. No, we're going to smoke hybrid and hybrid. Oh, fuck. Oh, you guys, this is been so great. You guys are, you guys are doing it. You guys are killing it, man.
Starting point is 01:14:53 My song gonna be there. It's gonna be great. Yo, your earrings don't stand for Bible babes anymore. They stand for Bing Bong. Oh, Bing Bong. Yeah. Oh, that's like, it's trending. I don't understand.
Starting point is 01:15:03 It's that, what is it? What is going on with that? I mean, I don't know if you wanted to clip this, but I want to know what that is. Bing, okay, Bing Bong. That's what is. I missed a joke. I like that. Is it trending?
Starting point is 01:15:11 It is. It's a thing, Bing Bong, with the guy with the, okay. Yeah. Got you. Okay. Well, I enjoyed this. It's been a pleasure meeting you. I've heard such great things about you
Starting point is 01:15:21 and now that we've met, like, you're definitely one of my favorite people. No, this was great. I really enjoyed this. I think there should be a part too. Once we digest everything that happened to. Yeah, absolutely. You okay?
Starting point is 01:15:33 That was Jesus. That was Jesus. Thank you. You guys, feelings mutual. Seriously. I respect you guys a lot. You're a star. Don't be too hard on yourself.
Starting point is 01:15:41 You're not struggling. You are definitely like a star. Oh my gosh. For sure. Absolutely. And you're bringing something new to the podcast space, which is so fucking hard for people. You have your own. Trust me. To say at this point. Thanks, you are more than, you know.
Starting point is 01:15:57 And we'll microdose some shrooms together soon. I would love to. Yeah, I never did shrooms. That's something that me and Rory talk about a lot doing. Like, we're going to actually film something. I think she should be a part of that. But you have to come to. We're going to LA with us.
Starting point is 01:16:08 We're going to go to Joshua Tree. In California. I'll go. I'll go in a heartbeat. Yeah. I think we should do that. Oh, yeah. We go.
Starting point is 01:16:15 We could use some. of the Lord's supervision. We're going to need it. The Lord needs to be present. I would love to. Yeah. All right, let's do it. So thank you for coming. Thank you for having me. Where can they find you? Socials, everything. The Bible podcast is called Bible Stories with Brianda. We release new episodes every Wednesday. If you're starting with me, I would watch the Ian Dunlap episode. It was a really thorough conversation into who I am, believe it or not. Ian's amazing. He's also a sponsor of the show. My very first sponsor. Hey, dope.
Starting point is 01:16:44 So sweet. But at Bible Brianda on everything. And yeah, that's it. Bing Bong. Bible Brianda. Thank you. No, it's just Bible Brianda. No, it is.
Starting point is 01:16:55 Thank you for coming, though. Thank you so so much. You guys. And if you want to read Edens files just to close real quick, then I'll be fine. I won't have to comment on them. I just want to hear them. We can cut this too. I just want to hear them.
Starting point is 01:17:08 We're not cutting this. The world needs to hear Edd's files. Well, no, Eddn's the one that can cut it. Oh, yeah. But here's the thing, Edon, here's the thing. My files are typical, oh, Edin, I have scripture that I sent Edin and I saved it under my files. Did he leave you on red? No, no, no, no, no.
Starting point is 01:17:24 It was an intimate circumstance. Okay, I like that. I like that you guys have that relationship. Of course. But I put the scripture under his files. And he doesn't have, because I don't know, I guess he doesn't, not everyone has lengthy files like you fine men. No, Eddn, I think should have the longest file. A very huge file.
Starting point is 01:17:43 I don't know what Edden does in his free time, and it scares me. Edon, I don't know if you can add context to this, and I don't know why, but it's, oh, my God, my mucus first meet. That's it. I know it's confusing, and we didn't end, we ended on a lull. Y'all can cut this. Are you speaking in tongue? No, mucus first meet. Did I meet you and I had mucus?
Starting point is 01:18:05 Edon, can you answer? Jesus. Do you know what that is? I have no idea. Okay. Well, let me give you some script. I'll leave with this. There's a scripture that I gave for Edin, and maybe the listeners might want to listen to it. So, um, oh, 2 Corinthians chapter 4, verses 17 to 18. I've sent this to Edin, and that's on his files.
Starting point is 01:18:28 For our light and momentary troubles are achieving for us an eternal glory that far outweighs them all. So we fix our eyes not on what is seen, but on what is unseen, since what is seen is temporary, but what is unseen. is eternal. And that I sent to my boy, since you guys didn't like my mucus stuff, but I also don't know what it means. But that's how my files are. I'm a psychopath. It's just like, sometimes I'm like, what does that mean, girl?
Starting point is 01:18:56 Anyways, Mazel Tov, Jesus is king. Jesus is king. Jesus is king. Also a Kanye album. Mm-hmm. Better than Donda. Well, that was fun. That was great.
Starting point is 01:19:07 I like her. Yeah, I like Breonna a lot. I like, I think what she's doing, she has a lane. of her own. It's very unique. But I think it's something that is necessary though. Like just her, the way she interprets the word and religion and stuff like that. Being 28 years old, attractive living in New York City, a big metropolitan city. You'll find Jesus in many different places. Yeah, yeah. Trust me. This is dope things find them in the sewer. Every night you find Jesus. Listen. The amount of lords I found in New York in my time. Absolutely. I didn't even realize
Starting point is 01:19:41 you're wearing the Bass Pro Shop hat. So you were coming in here very Christian, very anti-abortion. I did want to ask her about... It's New York City, but okay. That's a very... You got that in Long Island. Long Island. There's no way you got that in New York.
Starting point is 01:19:59 Yeah, no, absolutely. The homie makes this. Dog, pigeons aren't in that climate in that hat. Yes, they are. That's camo. That's like you're hunting. You're hunting for pigeons in Central Park? It's fall. It's a little fallish. you know it's a little all lives definitely all lives
Starting point is 01:20:15 1,000% a lot of people rated the Capitol with that hat on that was my favorite part people rating the Capitol in Camo we can see The capital is white We can see you
Starting point is 01:20:28 You couldn't be more seen You're ready to build it with Camo on I know Anyways yeah I did want to do a breakdown afterwards That was a lot to impact And I know we're not keeping That was, I mean, it was about, for the listeners, we're not taking away things from you.
Starting point is 01:20:45 We didn't edit things in that regard, but there was stuff we had to cut down. That was about two and a half hours of Bible-ness that we just went through. She's great, though. I like it. I like her conversation. I like her point of view. I have thoughts on a lot of the Bible, but, you know, I like to hear what people think in their interpretation and of religion and God and spirituality and things like that.
Starting point is 01:21:08 I tried my best not to Rory the situation and stuff. say inappropriate things or interrupt to fuck up conversation. I just want her to get her shit off. There's a lot of stuff I really wanted to disagree with or make terrible comments about. Damaris, you watched it. We were living it.
Starting point is 01:21:26 And you side-eyed me a few times. And this was the first episode I could ever see Edin. Like I could see him. I've never been able to see him. Jesus is watching. Oh, no. He was watching the whole time. Hesus was definitely watching. The Lord is everywhere.
Starting point is 01:21:41 he is or she Tamara suppose is your opinion of that I am like super anti Christian so coming from a place of my non-bias
Starting point is 01:21:59 I think it was good I think she brought up a lot of good points I think you guys brought up a lot of good points as far as that you combat it with a lot of jokes I've seen a lot of jokes
Starting point is 01:22:08 that you guys let slide under the rug and me shit on some more well you got to see I like as HR thanks you yeah like when we're sitting down with somebody for the first time
Starting point is 01:22:15 especially a woman, I kind of like, I don't want to give so much of our, because, you know, they may not understand our jokes and things like that. So, but it was definitely some things I wanted to kind of throw at her just on some jokes, but I was like, let me just let her get her shit off. And what sucked the most about it was, I know that's something that's like really near and dear to our heart. Like, that's her lifestyle. Yeah. Is that. And I don't know what it is about the negativity in me that wants me to always attack what people love. That's, I was trying to hold back so much, because I had so many jokes and I didn't want to say them because I didn't want her to feel like I was legitimately attacking her life.
Starting point is 01:22:51 Right. But I think she understands us for the most part. She knows our personality. There was a few times I saw in her eyes where she was like, yeah, relax. Yeah, yeah, no, absolutely. But I would love to have her back on. Oh, for sure. No, I really like her as a person. Yeah, and we can kind of like catch up and see where she's at. If she still hasn't masturbated. I'm going to text her. Have you masturbated this week? Do not text her that, please. I just want to know.
Starting point is 01:23:12 Mall. Oh, okay. Thank you. Would you guys want your daughter to be a Brianda raised in that light of celibacy? I don't know if I would say I would want my daughter to be celibate, but I would want her to make the best decisions based on the information that she has, you know, like the best decision for herself as far as like what she wants in her life, what kind of relationship does she want, what kind of future does she want?
Starting point is 01:23:41 um celibate i wouldn't go that far you know i mean if she finds herself to that because like you know brianne she wasn't always celibate but if she finds herself to that for whatever reason if it's a spiritual awakening or something like that cool as the thing as a dad you're just there to support your children and kind of give them um information that they may not have yet and just you know hope that they apply it correctly but i'm not i'm not against her being celibate like i said if she goes through experiences like she dates a guy and you know it's a terrible relationship and she falls out of love and then she's tired of meeting guys and being physical and she just wants to take time to really get to know herself on a spiritual level and and if that calls for celibacy so be it but i'm not going to
Starting point is 01:24:24 say i want that for her like i'm not one of those dads that's like my daughter will never have sex and she'll never suck dick and she'll yeah no she is oh come on she will could never be that day she will we brought to bring it up the uh the money part and i was like that's just part of society whether we like it or not. You could say in your religion that money's the devil, but it controls society, unfortunately, and you need it.
Starting point is 01:24:44 And she was like, yeah, I'm attracted to it because that makes my family safe. But she's attracted to it for stability and security reasons. And I think with sex, it's similar in that. And that's why I wouldn't say I want my daughter to be celibate because you learn so much about yourself and other people and how to move in life based off sex to some degree.
Starting point is 01:25:03 So I don't know if I'd want my daughter to be this celibate, naive girl. running around and then when sex happens at an age that she should already know a shit ton about herself and doesn't I don't know if I want to have her go through that that late in life. And from what Brianda said,
Starting point is 01:25:21 I believe she found celibacy due to her feeling like she always had to love and be in love with every man she was with. Yeah. And that kind of was like setting herself up for her heartbreak and things like that. So she had to like stop because she was like looking for love through sex.
Starting point is 01:25:37 Well, I mean, she did mention, and... If I'm reading that correctly. She did mention, I'm only saying it because she said it on the air about her parents' relationship. It was definitely a chaotic thing. All of that is attached, and I can attest to that as well. It's all attached. So, yeah, maybe Selespe was great for her in that capacity because she was searching for love within sex. So, no, I think there's a time to veer away from sex.
Starting point is 01:26:02 You don't have to cut it off for religious reasons, but it is definitely something that motivates. us in everything that we fucking do. So once you take it away, you may have a clearer mind in certain capacities of your life. I think you both should go celibate. I went celibate by accident one time for like six months. That's not celibate. That's you not
Starting point is 01:26:21 having sex. That's not celibacy. Celibacy is a plan in motion. This is what I'm doing. This is what I'm committing to. I'm committing to not having sex for whatever goal you're attempting to reach. I think you both should try it. Commit to not having sex. How long?
Starting point is 01:26:36 Wait, does that include beating off? Yeah, I'll never take masturbation away from anybody. I think masturbation is the world. This would not be a good podcast if I couldn't be off. You are already a very irritable person. I know, imagine if I didn't beat off, Damaris. Yeah, I know. I'm good.
Starting point is 01:26:53 All right, so we shouldn't go sell. Yeah, I'm about to say. Beat to your heart's desire, but just no sex with other people. Okay. For a month. That's it? No, I think that might be easy. Wait, I was about to say.
Starting point is 01:27:06 I just did that. Let's do two. Two months. Two months? I could do two months easy. January and February. Okay, now wait now. Are you a different opinion on who Moll and I are?
Starting point is 01:27:16 Like, yeah. We really don't be fucking like that. Yeah. I promise you, I don't. Two months is nothing for me. And you said I could beat off. This is a breeze. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:27:27 You know what I mean? Loggins I got you. I'll send you my passwords. Yeah, send me the bank bro's joint. You know what I mean? Like, yeah. It's nothing. Two months?
Starting point is 01:27:33 But now you're talking about like February. You know it's Valentine's. Valentine's Day. You know, you got to kind of like... I was trying to help y'all out, say, yeah, I have to buy anybody nothing. That don't mean you ain't got to buy nobody nothing. That just means you can't have sex. But they still expect to get something on Valentine's Day. You go all saying that ain't got none to do with them.
Starting point is 01:27:49 Buy them anything for Valentine's Day. Oh, yeah, I know that. But you don't... It's just Valentine's. Like, I'm with you on that. Trust me. Their birthday, I'll take care of their birthday. That makes sense. Like, let's celebrate just another year. The day you would...
Starting point is 01:28:01 Hell you. Yeah, I get that. Valentine's Day. It's, I don't know. We can't, listen, we've had this. talk before, we can't get involved with that. That's something that is very dear, near and dear to women and their hearts and their emotions.
Starting point is 01:28:14 Let's just let them have it. And first of all, Christmas is coming up. I need to, let me see y'all Bible card. Are you a Bible, babe? I'm not buying you a Christmas gift. You don't even care about Jesus' birthday. That's true. Okay.
Starting point is 01:28:25 Are you guys going to do January? Why didn't you ask her that? You know any profits we're born on December 25th? Listen. No, I did my YouTube's. YouTube will tell you anything. If Brianna would have discovered what I actually believe in, she would have blessed that water. She was drinking and threw what I mean.
Starting point is 01:28:44 Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely. But I'm down for the no-sex January, February. Okay. I will hold you guys to that. Yeah, man. This was fun. This episode was fun.
Starting point is 01:28:53 It was. I had a lot of good thoughts after this. Some things in perspective, gain some knowledge and some information. So it's a good day. I'll see you in church on Sunday. Absolutely. Peace. A win is a win.
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