New Rory & MAL - Episode 236 | How About A Magic Trick?

Episode Date: January 23, 2024

Anybody got a matchbook? We’re back with a mindblowing (pause) episode (0:00) . We begin with a trip down memory lane reflecting on David Blaine’s street magic & Criss Angel’s Mindfreak (04:40). This leads to a conversation about our beliefs or lack thereof in magic, ghosts, aliens, and zombies (16:11). Is the NFL scripted? We go over this past week's games and speculate Jason Kelce and the MLK look alike taking Taylor Swift’s spotlight (25:04). In music news, Lupe Fiasco & Kid Cudi swapped words and eventually made good (43:33). Then we reflect on the history of beef in Hip-Hop (55:00) . It’s time for voicemails (1:04:17). As most voicemails do, this leads to many conversations. We get into high school dating, Jackie Kennedy, love magic, and favorite Disney movies. Tune in as the guys discuss all of this + more!Follow The Team:Rory - https://www.instagram.com/thisisrory/Mal - https://www.instagram.com/mal_bytheway/Julian - https://www.instagram.com/julian__nicholas/Demaris - https://www.instagram.com/demarisagiscombe/Merch: https://newrorynmal.com/Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/newrorynmalYouTube Subscribe: https://rb.gy/hk7up Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoicesSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Everybody listening and watching Got you We are back. Welcome to another episode of the new Rory and Mall podcast. I am Mall. I'm Rory. And we are back. Bumped into Rory the other day. It's always funny bumping in Rory. Oh, yeah. We're not working. I totally forgot about that. I saw it literally on the next corner. I saw them all walking for the first time. In life? Yeah, like you're an Uber to each location kind of person. Like, you'll walk where we're going, like in the studio you walk. But I've never just like seen you on a New York City Street. Just, you know. I look like I was a herb. Like, I look like I could, niggas could have ran down on me and punched me in my face.

No, but you were easily spotable. Okay. I could just tell it was you. What was the giveaway? It looked like someone that doesn't typically just walk around New York City. They're usually in like a SUV. That's funny because I've done so much walking around New York City. So you say that it's so crazy.

You know how much walking I've done in the city? I was, it was fine. I wish we had that. I wish we had like a clock of like how much we've walked in our cities. Just get a, it's on your iPhone. Yeah, look at your phone. No, I mean I can life. Not like, I don't want to start tracking.

my steps every day. I'm talking about in life. Like, how many miles of New York City do you think you've walked in your life? I wouldn't even know where to guess. Yeah, that's like a sick number. You know, I thought about the other day, how many times have you gotten on the same subway car twice for multiple times? I'm sure it's a lot higher than we think it is.

Yeah. Well, I definitely remember at least three times because this sticker that I remember seeing was like that you put there. And I used to ride the same train around the same time, so it's easy to kind of track it that way once you have like schedule like that where you know what time the train is coming. You get on the same train pretty much. But then they started switching and we're like the F is now the A. And like, you're like, this is not an A train even though it says A on it, but it's too local. Anyways, I ran into Mall. We both thought it was the weirdest thing. I was pushing. He was being

a dad down Elizabeth. And like, mall was just in the street. And I was like, hey, mall. I heard somebody call my name and I'm like, you know, you turn around slow because you don't know who it is. It's Rory being a dad with a stroller. I'm like, oh, my guy. I know this doesn't sound that compelling, but to me it was the craziest thing in the world. It's like when you see your teacher in public. Yes, that's the exact. Exactly. It was like, oh, you're like a human outside of the life. Yeah, this is what you be doing like, recording. Like, you just be walking with your daughter. Well, I know Rory was probably coming from the office. Where were you at? Where were you at? I was going to see my, check my homeboys. They store down the block. Oh, okay. Yeah.

So I was going to check their store and kick up with them for a minute. And that happened above in the Rory. Yeah. That was, that was our weekend. Fun times. Other than to do much, I did sit on Instagram for a few hours going through this new trendy magician's IG page. Kevin Hamden, I believe I'm pronouncing his name correctly. Who is this guy? Because you and Julian got your inside text jokes going and want to talk about this magician. He better be great. No, it's not inside jokes.

It's a pretty public account. Yeah, he's big. Julian and I both are like, we miss when there was the famous magician that like went to hang out with the celebrities and do crazy shit. Like, we miss David Blaine. We miss Chris Ayn. He's still around. You're still hanging up. Nah, but not like, he's... He's not going to the TikTokers and like, you know...

Oh, no. He's not doing that. He's going... Making the stream disappear. He's backstage with Chappelle. David Blaine in the hood is still, like, the most iconic television of all time. Oh, yeah. When the whole block runs away...

100%. It's the best... It's the most entertaining thing I've ever seen. Yeah. And him... I'm a kid watching that. And him being part of the creep squad did kind of ruin a little bit of, like, the Santa Claus version I had of him.

Mm-hmm. What were they called? And DeCaprio. He was in the Pussy Patrol? The Pussy Patrol, yes. Yeah, he was like one of four. And I heard he had hands. Wait to that documentary comes out.

Listen. No, it's still going. They're still shooting. Leo's still with a 20-year-old. They're still getting footage. They're building a RICO. You think David Blaine ain't make somebody panties disappear by now?

Yeah, he made their innocence disappear. Oh, man. He's like, check your dress now. Crazy in those back rooms. Oh, God. Yeah. Were you guys Chris Angels fans? Hell yeah.

I loved Chris Angel. Nah. Really? I loved Chris Amel. That was too theatrical. I'm more like the David Blaine Street shit. David Blaine was too vaguely. I mean, Chris Angel was too Vegas.

He did have like a residence. Yeah, it was big, too Vegas. When I was a kid, I made my parents buy me his book. Did you look? You know what? Now did you say that, Julian, now did you say that? Probably had that haircut too. I know exactly the type of teenager you were.

This book is in my childhood bedroom still. You are such a... How did you have this Chris Angel book? Chris, you know, Rory. I like, I didn't have the book. Of course you didn't have the book. But I liked Chris A&U. Listen, I would watch it if it ever came on.

What channel was that? I want to say A&E, maybe. It was a great show. It was either A&E. Was it Travel Channel? Or TBS? I think it was TBS. I don't know.

One of those channels. It wasn't the same when Travel Channel had the Ghost Hunters. Ghost Hunters, wow. And then remember they had that one international guy that you could like clearly tell even as a kid. I feel like it was a TLC. He was on A&E and then USA as well. A&E. See, I knew it was on A&E.

But, Yeah, I learned, there's about two tricks that I know from the book still. Worth it. Do you think you could make show us? No, see, I'm not. No, no, let him. What are the tricks? Julian, Julian, listen to me.

Listen to me. Listen to me very carefully, Julie. Don't do it. I didn't grab it in a fucking hat. Julian. Can you do it on Patreon? Julian, listen to me. I'm trying to save you.

Do not do it. You're not going to teach me. We'll do it on Patreon when Margo's a bathroom. You're going to teach me from Chris Angels. All I need for one trick is a match. We have math. matches here. Is that why you always buy matches? It all makes sense.

That's why this holy shit, it makes sense. I'm like, who uses matches? Get a lighter. Nobody uses matches. Like matches. Because you know the Chris Angel Monre. Just in case, yeah. Okay.

So what do you do with the match? Did you try to put like your name? The match disappear and then make it reappear. So you burn it. You strike it and let it burn out. No. No. No.

I'll show you guys later. I don't want to make this Rockefeller again, though. Didn't Dame do something with either Chris Angel or or David. Blaine? Probably David Blaine. I don't know. I feel like there's a video of like your brother and Dame like watching David Blaine like jump off some shit in Vegas. I don't know if it's Chris Angel. Probably David Blaine. David Blaine had all the celebrities. You were mentioning all the the frogs with Chappelle. Yo, when he spit up those frogs in front of Drake and Dave Chappelle, I was like,

see, they was looking at like, whoa, I got questions, bro. Where was those fucking frogs at? In his stomach. Yeah. Like, to me. Me? Who walks around just was like, yo, I'm going to get this trick off later. Let me swallow five frogs and then spit them up around 7.30. That's interesting. Like, who does that? That was interesting about David Blaine. Like, he would do magic. He started out doing magic in the street, in the hood and would just make black people run away immediately. He would just, like, do a trick and they sprint off. The best videos of all. Black people are really scared of magic. And I agree with them. David Blaine is the antichrist. But then he started doing these tricks that aren't magic anymore. Now you're just harming yourself. You're keeping three frogs in your stomach. Remember when David Blaine did that? He was in that ice box in Tom Square for like a week. Yeah. Like that's not magic.

That's just stupid. Well, no, because a lot of his stuff became endurance test. So he was very into breathing control and expanding your stomach and like pushing the limits of. Julian, we've all been to the pool and said who can hold their best of long. Yeah,

but he took that shit seriously. Yeah, but come on. Spitting up five baby frogs. He's Peter Pan. He never did it. And the champagne flute. Like, come on. Spinning that.

But then he- Dave Chappelle champagne is crazy. Yeah, like, what is that? And then doing that five times over. He's just handing them shit's out like drinks. Like, you want one? And then having orgies with Leo at night. Like, it is kind of the dream. Yeah, it is the dream.

Spit up frogs. And then. Well, this new kid, Kevin, right? Kevin Hamden. He's, I think, building his way into that world. And I would love to have him on the show. Magic's back. Play this clip.

I don't think we'll get flagged. We play IG clip. Imagine she's here. Ignore everyone. In a moment, you're going to feel an energy come here. It's going to go all the way up your arm in here. Why does it all magicians have that eyebrow thing? Feel it now.

Some people are burning your teeth. You feel it now. Okay, good. Good. See, right when you felt it, say the name in your head now to me, in your head? Claudia. Claudia burns her?

Yeah, I was like. So initially, from what I gathered, that's like his biggest trick that he mostly does on Instagram is just read your mind. Like, we'll create a scenario, and then you'll think of a name, and then he'll get it right every single time. Can you imagine how dangerous you would be

if you could read minds mall? Oh my God. I don't know if I'd want that power. I feel like I wouldn't either. I can bait people into an outcome that I want, but I can't like read your mind. Yeah, of course. But I can't like read your mind.

That's fucking, like who the fuck's Claudia? What was that movie with Mel Gibson? He had that power where he could hear women's thoughts? What women want? Oh my God. Classic movie. It is.

I'm surprised he didn't get canceled for that yet. Well, also, Mel, I mean, he played a show bit. He did what men want. He had the power to hear all men. thoughts and he was in the elevator and one woman walked in and it's like six men and Chappelle can hear all their thoughts. The little kid walks in at the end. He's like, oh, an innocent eight-year-old thing. He's like the same thoughts. Well, his point like setting up that premise was

you could not do what men want because like it'd be too gross. And that was at that time. Even now I don't think you could do what women want. And now women have changed or maybe they're just more open with their sexuality. What women want would be kind of gross, I think, in 2024 as well. Yeah, I think it'd be similar to Chappelle's bit of what men want. Oh, absolutely. Yeah. Absolutely.

I think so, that's, but again, I think people are just so brash and straightforward and numb to like a lot of shit now to where people are just like, nothing is like too far. They never brought Mel to the podium for the Passion of Christ or any of those phone calls, but he would be brought to the podium now because that's like the definition of coursing, right? He would hear their thoughts and just do what they wanted. beat and then move on to the next one. Yeah, but is that coercion, though?

If I give you what you want, is that coercion? Yeah, like, if I hear... I found out it was, yes. If I hear a girl across the room's thoughts and she's thinking about taking me in the bathroom, she wants to give me a blowjob. If I got it like that, that's the weird scenario that she... I'm just saying, what if that's her thought?

You don't know. What if you sit there, like, I hope someone respects me? Oh, then we respect her, but we do that anyway. It's called aftercare. Yeah. We do that. Julia, I want to respectfully give them all. I'm not even

Aftercare is sick Do you guys prefer That's not a kink You're supposed to do that When you have sex period You're supposed to do aftercare No What's aftercare?

It's definitely You know when you get the baby wipe Oh yeah No that's not aftercare It's like showing love And affection And like re-energizing the person Because you know

If I go get the baby wipes And they steam in hot Yeah And I wipe you down And hold your ankles up Like I'm changing your pan But that's not That's not affection

But it's like The cuddling Codeling, it's like you kiss her on the lips instead of the forehead after head. No, you can also kiss her on the forehead too. It's like just showing somebody that after sex, it's not just like, oh, we clean up and like we like, you know. You should leave.

Not even you should leave, but just like go into the kitchen and like do other things. Like, no, like show affection to that person. What if I dapper and then go to the kitchen? Gangs. That kitchen movie kind of clutch. A girl ever kissed you after sex and was like, oh, great job. Not the words per se, great job, but yeah, alluding to. I don't know how I feel about that.

You did good. Don't kiss me and say good job. Don't do that. I'll definitely hit him with a check you out. You guys ever think? Tamara's such a nigger. What's wrong with her? Okay.

Check you out. I'm trying to get like you. After sex. Check you out is crazy. A girl say check you out. I'm not about to be like, wow, you really, nah. Check you. Okay.

I'll see you. Like, yeah. That's your pride speaking. Yeah, exactly. That's all that is. You just don't want to admit like, damn. Yeah, I ain't doing that. Why?

You got to let that go, babe. You got to release that. You got to let it go. I let it go while we were having sex. And then once the sex is over, the person that I was when we were having sex, I am no longer that person. Girls get post-nuclety too. Oh, I would imagine. More than y'all do.

I promise you. I don't know about me. Most of the time they don't nut either. Well, that is that. Yeah, I think it's just regret. I don't know. That'd be a bad time to know their thoughts. Oh, my gosh.

Imagine you could know a girl's thoughts right after you had sex with you. Do you guys plan? Because there's moments where if I'm having sex, that I will think about two, three minutes before I come. I'm like, what am I going to say immediately once this is over? Do you guys ever have that inner monologue? Like, what's the, what joke am I going to land on? You can talk to us. What happens?

What's going to break the ice after I come? Why is that even a thought? Why is it to be broken? Yeah, like, the ice is already brial having, you are inside of her body. But then you go, and then it's like awkward side. Then you got to say something. What do you, like, do you don't think I had that?

Was it about a year ago when we were trying to explain to Julian? I don't know if it was on Patreon or the regular episode that he was treating sex like just chasing another high. Yeah. He's not really having sex. He's just moving on to the next thing. You are now proving our point. I've involved.

During sex, you're trying to think of what to say when it's over dating apps, bro. What's wrong with you? You don't think about what to say when you're on this podcast, but after the nut, that's when you really want to put some fucking thought and some clarification into what the fuck you're going to say. That's actually a good point.

Something politically incorrect to her. Yeah. Yeah. That's sick. You got to kiss her butt cheek. I like that's fine. Yeah, kiss her butt cheek and I'm out of that Walk out the room, go to the bathroom, that gives you a couple

seconds to think about A little coooscoos for, you know, you know how you do Couscoos post sex is crazy Oh, you know what you could do, you could do your match, magic trick After sex I couldn't do that because usually you want to light a candle during sex Yeah, like watch this

That would get her going But you usually like the you definitely get your candle trick off before sex I actually haven't done, I'll try it If you set up the bat game and then do the match show I'm not in mob. I'm serious. I haven't done it. You're lying if you've never done that trick to a girl for girl.

I got to practice it. I'll do it with you guys first. You've never done that trick for a girl. No. I don't believe you. Maybe like maybe in Chicago. Here we go. It was a windy night in Chicago.

You couldn't get the trick off. I lost the match. You lost the match. That's not a trick, Julie. It's just minus 10 degrees and it's windy outside. Well, anyways, I want to have this magician on. Do you guys believe in magic? Yeah.

He's the greatest point guard of all time. He made something disappear because he is still doing great. Strong as a bull, ain't he? He's made more money, gotten stronger. I'm going to be so mad at God when I die before him. Man. Anyways, yeah, I believe in magic with some people. I don't know if it's like Chris Angel, per se.

I think he's maybe just good at performances, but I think magic makes it. I don't know, man. I think a big part of magic is the person that, you're performing the magic for. They have to believe. They have to believe. We have to believe it. We have to be open to being, you know, deceived and shit like that.

Like, I don't know. Well, I believe in, like, mediums with certain people. So I feel like magic can somewhere exist on that spectrum. Who is that famous medium? Like, the way there's a spectrum. I think the mediums are on the magic spectrum. Remember John Edward, that guy, the most famous median? But he was like, he was full of shit, right?

Yeah. Miss Cleo's the most famous medium, first of all. Well, he had like a television daytime talk show. No, she could tell the future. Same spectrum. Yeah. I think magic is, in other cultures, is real and exists. But in American culture, it got commercialized and is used for what we know it as.

Because I studied, like in college, it took, like, a lot of African history courses. And there were the rituals and magic that was very real to the cultures and the tribes that were. And, you know, I go into those class. I'm like, yeah, right, whatever. And then we're seeing all these stories and seeing all, and hearing all these things. like, okay, like this seems more real. Whereas here it's always like commercialize and use for profit and it doesn't seem as like authentic.

Yeah. My mom and aunt waited in live for John Edward like five times. They spent so much money, never got a reading. Then finally went to like some off-Broadway John Edward. It immediately got the most accurate reading ever. Yeah. So I believe in it. I just think some people that John Edward to me, and maybe he is real, but the stuff I've seen like

the clips he's put out, He's like that, what's that priest in Houston that scams everyone? Oh, God. Joel Austin. He's like, he's like the medium version of that. God said I need another Ferrari. Yeah. But would have God said that?

See what I'm saying? Well, I feel a little left out then, God. Spread the wild. You have other kids. I'm your, I'm your son too. I'm not your favorite. I thought I was God's favorite. I thought we were all.

Would you guys go ghost hunting with me? Like out of real place? Like, no, I'm not going to ghost hunting with you. What's not with you? You went to see a white horse hunting with you. You went to see a white horse hunting with you. to see your white cousins this weekend? Yeah, he was.

You start acting white after you go see the family. Did you guys ever do the Ouija boards? I did that with my white cousins. No, well, I only have white cousins, but my cousin. With white cousins. But say you got some, you got some nigger cousins we don't know about? Like, oh, okay. I have two cousins that are half Irish and half Cuban.

Okay. Spicy white. Yeah, that might be a little sauce, okay? A little Ariana Gandhi. Did the Ouija boards work? No. Ouija boards don't work, man. We just listen to too much bone thugs in harmony.

They do. I think they do. You think Ouija boards work? Yes, I do. No, you don't. Yes, I do. A bunch of eight-year-olds just trying to... No, I don't think y'all were using it right. How are they supposed to use it? We should have bought the Chris Angel book?

Yeah. That is sick that you really brought that book. I'll bring it. Next time I'll have my... Please, don't. I'll have my parents... No, I believe you. I believe you got it. But I don't want to see it. What streaming service did Travel Channel, like, merge with? Where can I get all there?

I'm pretty sure. I'm pretty sure. Either Max or Paramount Plus? Travel. Because they used to have this Ghost Hunter one with this guy. I don't know if he was Australian or something, but he was clearly full of shit, but it was hilarious. Like, he walked into the basement of one haunted house

and was like, the polar bears, they're all over. And it's like, you're seeing polar bears right now? He could see the ghosts, but nobody else on the crew could see the ghost. He could see it.

Oh, naturally. And I was like, there's polar bear ghosts now? As a kid, I was beside myself. Do you believe in ghost, ma'am? I think I told this story before. Stiles, be?

I saw, well, Stiles is, you know, the ghost. The ghost. But I think I saw a ghost one time. I think I, did I tell that story before? No. Yeah. I was standing like outside on my block, like the building across the street from my building.

And it's like the way the building is set up. It's like the outside doors. And then it's like steps to go up to the other doors to actually get in the building. And my homeboys were standing in front of the door. My back is to the street. I'm looking at my friends. And it was this crazy like, it was just like a figure that looked. It kind of looked like this light.

But it was like right there. and then it just kept like bouncing and then it just disappeared. And I'm looking like, I thought it was the light flickering inside the building. But it was moving. It was too bright and it was just moving like weird.

And I was like, and this was something I couldn't like, while my home was standing, I'm looking past them. Like, what the fuck is that? Were you high? No. So I'm thinking that was some type of spirit or something. Like it was just too bright and too big and just moving just weird.

And I was just that, it was not the light in the lobby. So that was the spirit of force. Spirit of fordom. The spirit of, definitely the spirit of fordom. That was the first time I saw something where I felt like that was something like out of this world.

Not really a fuck Mary kill question per se. Okay. But who would you rather have invade this year? The zombies, the aliens, or ghosts? You can put it in order or you can just pick one. Well, I think the aliens are already here. True. But like when they call their friends.

Try to take over. the weight's over yeah bring the aliens man aliens bring the aliens bring them more let's sit down and kick it with them being homies with a ghost would be kind of cool though I don't like anything I can't beat that's why the scariest movies to me are like the ones

about anything spiritual or any type of infestation of spirits like you can't fight them but so much of spirituality in Hollywood is always negative there's happy like spirits too Casper I was about to say what he's part Casper made us all a better friend. But like having a ghost, having a ghost told me would be cool.

The greatest ghost movie of all time is ghost. Patrick Swayze? Yeah, you're probably right. Get off my crane! Get off my crane! That's actually a pretty spot-out impression. That's the greatest ghost movie of all time. If you've never saw Ghost of Patrick Swayze, you're missing out.

But that is definitely the greatest ghost movie of all the time. I haven't seen this as a child. I've got to go back and watch it. Zombies would definitely be three. And if Bill Cosby wasn't canceled, ghost dad second best. I don't know if I've seen ghost dad. You never seen Ghost Dad with Bill Cosby? Oh my God. No, I've never even heard

of that. Ghost Dad? I don't know. I've never seen Ghost Dad? No, man. I'm getting old. We were born in the 90s. I've never seen Ghost Dad. Bro, you know Ghost Dad. That's what happens when you take a Quaylood and you didn't mean to. Ghost Dad, now Ghost Dad is the shit. Have you ever taken a... I'm jealous to all the people that took

Quailout era. I know. We missed the Quailout era. My dad speaks great tales about the Quailout era. It makes me very jealous. Well, Wolf of Walsh, made me mad that I wasn't a part of the Quailout. Yeah. I wish somebody could just go find somewhere. Actually, I'm talking shit. I was never a drug, a pill popper. I was, I was going to say, you don't take drugs now.

I think it was just the, the X-Era and Mali era that we got just a little bit better. Seems pretty interesting. Ghost dad? No, I mean, that too, but Quiludes. I never was a pill person, but. Yeah, I'm cool. I think I'd rather have the ghosts invade first, because we don't really have too much proof of what they could fuck up. I feel like aliens are smarter than us.

Oh, aliens are definitely smarter than us. And I feel like we could ask. the ghosts a lot of questions and like really get to the bottom of this religion thing. It was like they were there. Yeah. Zombies are dumb too. There's not really much upside. Zombies are just annoying.

Yeah. Yeah. You know, you met one? Huh? You met one? Yeah, on Ford.

I mean, I was going to say, yeah, I could go right outside. That was the ghost you saw on for it. You go right to hunt 25th in Lexington Avenue, my brother. You'll meet a lot of zombies. They hate it when we do this,

but I saw some more recent videos coming out of, uh, that Kensington Street. Oh my God. That's the zombie. There's some zombies there, man. That's the zombie. They're going to be apocalypse. Their heads hovering like three inches off the ground.

They're standing up. I cannot believe that's a real area in America. Yeah. I don't know how that shit. Like, how did the government not go over there and clean all that shit up? Because they put it together. No, you know, capitalism. Anyways.

It was a good sports weekend, though. I didn't do much, but football, we got a great game. Shout out to the Lions, man. They got a shot. I mean, depending on the script of how you look at the NFL, I'm not quite sure. They got a shot. Well, fuck it. For the Detroit Lions.

Fuck it. We can get right into the script and then get into Taylor Swift. All right. So you're one of these people that believe in it that the NFL is scripted and that they know who the Super Bowl game is going to be played against. And you're one of those. This is an interesting angle. No. Okay.

Well, yeah, let's start with this angle. Because this tweet went viral and this has been a thing for quite some time. Mm-hmm. And I think Aaron Foster probably had one of the best answers to is the NFL scripted. Shout out to Aaron Foster. hilarious. But for the last two Super Bowls, the colors have matched the teams that ended up there and the one on top was always the one that lost. I don't put much merit into that. So the colors have matched and the team, what, that won? What? So two years ago it was

Bengals and L.A. L.A. colors are on the bottom of the logo and the Bengals colors are on the top. Yes. The Bengals lost. Then the next year it was Eagles Chiefs. The Eagles. The Eagles colors are on top, the Chiefs are on the bottom. And this was put out before teams went into the Super Bowl. Like they announced this logo with those colors before Bengals and Rams and before Eagles and Chiefs. They announced this year's logo already, and ironically, it has the San Francisco 49ers colors on top and the Ravens on the bottom.

We don't know if they're going to be in the Super Bowl yet. Obviously, San Fran is playing Detroit and the Chiefs are playing the Ravens. So we'll see. But it was an interesting. thing. And then there was also those tweets of years ago where people were predicting Super Bowls and scores and all that shit. But I don't put much merit into Twitter in that regard. And I think it'd be absolutely like impossible. I've met a lot of football players. I'm sorry to speak down on you guys because you guys are great as a whole. I feel like some of them don't really

have the despian abilities to act out this entire script that you think is about to happen. Well, when you, when you say, I'm not, there's just been a few. few that I've met that are just really good at football. You're saying you can't read either. CTE. It's a real thing. I don't, well, first of all, I want to make clear, I don't think I could perform a whole NFL script,

even if I had the abilities to play in the NFL. That's very difficult. What about the 50 other Super Bowls that don't follow this color scheme rule? That's what I was about this. Because we're looking at the last two years. And not only that. Well, now they're trying to show us.

Yeah, like, that's what I'm saying. The graphic designer is a whistleblower. I get it. But, I mean, I think that if there is a script, the players don't know about it. I think there's some refs that are on the take with the league and also with Vegas. But I don't think that's a script per se. Well, the thing about sports is, again, it's about money. It's not so much about competition anymore.

It's about money and the teams that are watched the most and the players that put the most seats, fans in the stands and things like that. So do I think that there is a thing where the refs are handed some type of, Yeah, I think Playbook I think that that exists In certain scenarios This is where things need to lean

Yeah, because it's money It's just way too much money involved So I get it easier in basketball Than I think it is in football Way easier in basketball And we know that You know, refs have been Found betting on games

That they actually refting and things like that So my thing is now with sports betting Being legal now I think that everything is on the table now Because once you're allowed to legally bet And plays wages on games. I think that that changes everything. And Pete Rose should be let into the Hall of Fame.

Let's just put that out there again. I'm just keep it out. Oh, I agreed when gambling was illegal that he should have been in the whole thing. Yeah. Like Pete Rose should be in the Hall of Fame. And just imagine taking like all the college football players and like trying to teach them how to fake football. Yeah. So I got to the pros.

That would be insane. But the games were great. I feel for the bills. Like I'm sort of a bill of fame. That was tough. That was tough. Wide right again. You guys just can't shake that.

That was tough. That was tough, man. That was drawn up. Do you guys believe in the curse of Jerry Jones in the segregated schools? Hey, hey. I'm not mad at that theory. I'm not mad at that theory. But one thing I will say about-

Because MLK was at the Ravens game, I just feel like maybe. Martin had a dream. I get it. You drummed harder. I understand. And wasn't, didn't they put racism? on Edgar Allan Poe's jacket. Like maybe there was a reason the ghost of Martin Luther King

was at the Ravens game. For those that don't know, it's named after the poem Raven by Edgar Allan Poe. I'll see how you tie that together right there. That was the first thing I thought the ghost of Martin was just, you know, checking up on that racist investment. But like also, out of all the things like Baltimore, because I feel like the Baltimore Crabbs obviously would be too funny

and you can't really do that. Out of all the things in Baltimore, why a poem? by Edgar Lumpo. I just never really like there's so many other things you could have done. It's not a poem, man. It's a bird.

No, but the team is named after that poem. The Raven. Oh, it is? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Who landed on that? Like, who the fuck? That's what I'm trying to say?

It's landed on that. What the fuck type of shit? That's better off calling the barksales. Yeah, what is that about? Yeah, I don't know what the... See, if I didn't like Lamar would be rooting against him now

for that dumb-ass shit. But I like Lamar. You can't. Root against Lamar because they named a team 20 years ago. Get out of the four teams left. Who do you want to take it all the way? Pause. I would like to see Lamar get one.

Yeah, I'm going for the Ravens. Same. I would like to see Lamar or the Lions. Yeah. Nobody in Detroit has ever seen the Lions get this far. Detroit, Detroit deserves it. Yeah, man. It's like, God damn, man.

They didn't pay their dues. Enough is enough. Let them get one. It's going to be kind of crazy. If it's Detroit in Baltimore, in Vegas. Gonna be in the build. In Vegas.

Cardiare glasses are gonna go crazy. The crap table's gonna be so flooded. You're gonna think they're giving away fish plates at them crap tables. The lions and the Ravens in the Super Bowl and Vegas? But then if you think about it, the Kansas City mob did build Vegas.

So, Chiefs go. Never seen Casino? I wasn't there. Every episode Casino gets brought up. Listen, it's a history book. You ain't watching the right shit. You ain't watching the right shit.

Yeah, you ain't watching the right shit. But yeah, I just, I don't know, I want a good game. Yeah, I would like Sycamore get a ring. I just think that he's one of the best players in the NFL right now, one of the best players that I've ever seen, black quarterback, Baltimore being the city that it is, it just gives them something to celebrate. And as well as Detroit, too.

But back to the script or maybe the manipulation, do we think we're going to see some wild calls in the Ravens Chiefs game? because having Taylor Swift at the Super Bowl would be... She might just do a guest spot. Yeah. I actually would feel bad for Usher. They just panning her the whole show. Like the whole Usher concert just might be Taylor dancing to Usher.

Dancing off, dancing off beat. That's what they do with the Grammys. You know, Taylor going to put her hands in her hair and, you know, being her own little... She goes crazy on the three. Yeah, you know that. I can see that happening, though. I can see the commissioner having a conversation with those refs. like, you can't make it obvious.

Yeah. We'd like to see. Taylor's in the building. I forgot what publication put out. Does Taylor get a ring if the chiefs win? So the chiefs are playing the Ravens? Yes. Yes.

Sam Fran and Detroit. And the Ravens are at home. I think, I think Lamar, I think he want that Pat Mahomes smoke. I think he want that. I think he low-key feel like you. I'm a lot better than you, bro. Like, I think, I think Lamar feels like that. Like, as most plays,

I hope he does feel that way right now and should feel that way, but like, objectively. Yeah. Both incredible. Think Pat kind of. Pat's stats are crazy. I think Lamar could maybe get there one day, but Patrick Mahones is like a different.

What do you think? All right. So what do you? I think Lamar is a very close second there, but not like, and he very much is the MVP this year, as he should be. Mm-hmm.

But Patrick Mahomes, like, is, it's a, the last six years they've been in the AFCJ. He's never missed the championship. I said already. Like he lost to Brady and that's about it. He's literally, give him a few more years.

His resume is already going to be better than Brady's. He's going to be the best statistic quarterback of all time. Patrick Mahon? In half the amount of time. And also has always had great weapons too as well. I'm not Jack. Kelsey. Yes.

Lamar has had some years where it hasn't been great. But then it's also had some weapons. Either way. But Lamar was hurt too, wasn't he? Yeah, for a minute. And we won't keep on football as things. entire time, but it was a football weekend and we are gearing up for the Super Bowl. Shout out to

the Detroit Lions. Shout out to the Baltimore Ravens. You guys want a party? Super Bowl party? No. I hadn't thought about it. We did one years. Two years ago? Yeah. Yes. When it was Dr. Dre And friends. That was right. Which was great. That was a fun night.

It was a very fun night. I think Jason Kelsey did the perfect, how do I put it? Probably the best possible thing you could do going into retirement. with the resources you have. That's a renaissance man. Yeah.

The only way you're going to outshine Taylor Swift is take your shirt off next to her and start pounding beers, especially when you have an amazing podcast and you just retired. This is like goat behavior to me. How else could you get shine over Taylor Swift in a booth?

Look at this. He jumps out the boot. One of the greatest centers of all time and maybe, as we see this play out, one of the greatest promoters I've seen in quite some time. You're next to T. Swift. How do you get any attention? Chugging a beer.

Seeing sweats? The best part of this whole thing is he got on Tim's with sweats. Yeah. That's a real nigga right there. That's a real nigga. I want to be his friend. Like, I want to listen to his podcast. It's so smart of him because not only did he do that, but he also, he obviously, him

being Travis's brother, he's automatically associated with the Chiefs. He goes out of his way to get into the Bill's tailgate. So he joined like a massive Bill's tailgate, chugged from one of their things. And then he also lifted up a little girl so she could see Taylor Swift. with a sign. She was a Bill's fan. So it's like he's so smart. He's just integrating himself into, okay, I'm just a fan of everyone.

So he's doing all this shit with the bill. This is, yeah, but see, I'm putting too much on it. This is typical drunk white man, baby, you have the game. I don't even think he was in the NFL. If he wasn't an NFL star and his brother wasn't an NFL star, then y'all wouldn't be, there would just be another drunk guy to tailgate. Okay, but there's 87 other drunk guys that got kicked out of the stadium for doing the same exact shit.

But they're not the same. All right. Monk the same way. Yeah. Sometimes just simple shit. It's just white boy behavior. That's all. It's just white boy behavior.

But it's being applauded now. Because of who he is. Yeah, but he earned this. No, 100%. Yeah. 100%. I think it's smart. He's not like fuck the bills.

He's not like, let's go. I'm only rooting for my brother. He's doing all this stuff in enemy territory. And I feel like you're definitely allowed to get off the white boy beer chugging after the last. How many years has he been in the league? Six, seven. I think even maybe more than that.

Jason Kelsey? Yeah, right? He's been in the league more than six years. Maybe he's 10. Travis has been in there longer, and that's his older brother. Yeah, he's been in the league. Sorry, 11 years. All right, 11 years of trying to block the A-gap with middle linebackers,

cracking your head in. Go have some bud lights with Taylor, bro. Absolutely. You earned it. You earned it. Yeah. I hope your head is okay. And he's a champion, too, so.

You know, the greatest center. Hall of Famer, easy. One of the best centers ever. Did they ever find out who the MLK gentleman was? I think they did find him. Twitter was on it. They found... Sure, they found his address.

Yo, he looked just like... He looked just like Dr. Martin Luther the King, man. The King. That's Dr. Martin Luther the King right there for sure. Yeah, that is... That's pretty dead on. I hope they bring him... Remember that woman that went viral

a few weeks ago at the Chiefs game? Taylor Swift? It's like some Asian woman was like a huge fan. I think... No, she was an L.A. fan. And they flew her out to a Chiefs game. And they, like, put the Buffalo Wildbornings, gave her, like, tens of thousands of dollars

to put her in the crowd. I hope they do that with this guy. That's risky, though. And I'm not putting anything bad on this gentleman's jacket at all. But in the past, like, remember, I think it might have been, like, the Hillary Trump debate. Guys, I promise I'm not going political. There was that guy, like, Ken, that wore the sweater

that asked, like, a question at one of the debates. He went super viral. And, like, didn't he end up being kind of creepy? Oh, he got a white woman, too. Oh, that is not very MLK of him. Yeah, it is. I'm staying out of this one. That's his wife?

Yeah. Look at that. We don't know that, is it? That's our kid. Look at the eyes. Yo, come on. What's his name, Wardell? We can get off sports, sort of, but not really.

Oh, well, Sports Illustrated got off sports. It's fucking over. Rest in peace. Well, not really rest in peace. Because they didn't say it was over, over, for sports illustration. Rest in print. Yes. Which I, you know, we saw that coming. They held down as long as

possible, but they did lay off a lot of people, which sucks for real journalists. Because, I mean, that's not really a craft anymore. And you just see it dying and it's like, damn. Prayers to them. It's not true. Prousted them is crazy. They got laid off. They didn't die. And they're like real journalists. Okay, so we're like

the kid that farts in a girl's face on Twitch is making more money. I feel for them. Oh, who's the girl? See? That's journalism. Yeah. It's about Sports Illustrated. We all grew up on it.

It was one of the greatest things ever. Sports Illustrated is definitely something that we grew up on. One of the, the greatest sports magazine ever. So to note it that the company is now, you know, shutting down. But I mean, no, no, it's not shutting down. They just did a lot of layoffs. Are they just doing digital only? It appears that way.

Because, yeah, I would imagine they're not going to give up on the swimsuit edition. No, they can't give a moment. can't do that. It's like Playboy. That's important journalism. Yeah. But let's not say it's over for them. They just laid off a bunch of people, which sucks. And I think pitchfork as well. Yes, pitchfork had a huge layoff as well for their writers. I was reading that universal music group, Atlantic, a lot of people allegedly are doing big layoffs this year. Like it's getting rough out there. That's why you laughing and I'm like, damn. No, but I think that it's really just because of, you know, now athletes have

their own platforms and their own way of getting their stories out. When you have social media, you know, a lot of these athletes now have their own podcasts. Same goes for artists. That's why you don't need as big of a staff. Yeah. So it's just a sign at a time.

And, you know, it's probably because a lot of people rather control their own narrative. Anna Wintour is a gangster. So Conde Nast, which obviously she runs, bought out pitchfork and while she was bringing them into network and laying off the staff she kept her sunglasses on.

Gangster. It's pretty hard. Yeah. But that's Anna went to her. I mean, she's going to keep her glasses on if she wants to keep her glasses on. I mean, and if you land I feel like, what if she had like watery eyes and she didn't want them to see how emotion she did not have watery eyes? I promise she didn't have any emotions. We like, did she have eyes?

That's a fact. We've never seen her eyes. We've seen Anna Went to the eyes. Before, what do you y'all talk about? I feel like I could probably get a new job pretty easily, especially in the media space, if while I was being laid off by Anna Winter and she had sunglasses on her. Winter. Took a full glass of water and threw it right in her face. You would never. Complex would hire me immediately. Oh, for sure.

Well, not me, but the person, the hypothetical person I'm talking about. I feel bad for, I'm Sports Illustrated, though. That is like a childhood like, you know. I mean, it's an end of an era in pitchfork, too. I mean, obviously different, pitchfork hasn't been around as long as Sports Illustrated, but, pitchfork was an era in my life as far as music went. For sure. I found new music.

Absolutely. Their stamp meant a lot whether you like it or not or whether you agreed with pitchfork or whether you thought it was too many hipstery shit. Either way, their stamp meant something. They still were like the last people actually reviewing albums with real journalism. So it's kind of trash to see this happen. I get it and things are moving forward. But I can be nostalgic and sad for a day.

Started in Chicago, Pitchfork. But do we expect that... Should have done the match trick. You would have got hired. Don't we expect that to happen over like a lot of print. Yeah. Things like for that to kind of phase out.

I mean, everything is digital now. Everything is... But I mean, you looked at... Complex started out as print and then clearly changed with the Times. Yeah. And made a whole media company and took everyone under them.

So, yeah, you see it. It's just... Pitchfork pride tried to hold on to their journalistic integrity for too long. Even though they've had some bullshit in the past, don't get me wrong, they at least backed it with real explanations. It wasn't as salacious as certain lists sometimes, even though they did, I think it was them that did the Ice Spice thing recently.

It was like, y'all should have done this 10 years ago if you wanted to stay afloat. Yeah. They were like too busy actually reviewing albums in the way the way fans want. See, that's fucked up. That's fucked up. They have a journalistic integrity and then they don't last the times. Yeah, that's how it goes. That's fucked up, man.

That's fucked up. But like you said, it's how it goes. So, I mean, I get it. But that's fucked up. You got to have, you got to keep some type of integrity when it comes to art and sports and things like that. Like, that's something that I get, you know, times have changed and things are different now. But you got to keep some integrity in play here.

I mean, I put it back to TMZ and the Daily News. The Daily News always had like the most bullshit in huge letters, even when journalistic integrity existed. It would be the Times, and then you'd have the Daily News with just an asinine headline in huge letters that made no fucking sense, and people were like, oh, shit, and picked it up. And they're still thriving with print. They're doing just fine because they do the bullshit. Yeah.

But, you know, in TNZ, I don't need to explain that one. But anyways, speaking of the pitchfork era, for some reason, the Lupe Fiasco and Kid Cuddy Beef is back ignited. Did you think we needed this in 24? No. It's not a good way to start 24. Also, I'm not mad. Not going to get any good music out of this?

I don't think we will because it started out everyone wanting peace. But just to give a quick backstory for those that don't know, because it took me researching to even figure out where this beef really stemmed from. I just guess I don't really remember Kid Cuddy and Lupe having beef. I guess I just missed that day on Twitter. I remember a little bit. back and forth, but I didn't think it was beef. Yeah. Seems like in 2014, because this interview resurfaced with my guy, Zane Lowe,

who loves me. Yep. Zane, I want to piece it up the same way Cuddy and Lube did. You and I can, we can solve this. Be progressive. Nah, fuck that. And I'm sure Zane has no interest in piecing things up with me. Or it cares.

Cuddy was being interviewed by Zane, which I'm sure was a phenomenal interview. And I'm sure Zane asked all the right questions. question. Probably the most challenging interview of Cuddy's career. For sure, and I'm sure it was amazing. And we love Zane. Zane wants to beat you up so bad he has a migraine. Hey, Lupe tweeted that. Imagine, I felt him, though. I understood what he was saying. So imagine if Zane retweeted that Lupa tweet that you just said, bro, I know the feeling. And then added me.

I know what he mean, though. I know what he means. It's like sometimes you just assert people that just get your blood boiling like that. Yeah. So Cuddy was telling Zane that before he got famous, he worked at the Bap store, which a lot of people know, especially Cuddy fans. It's like one of his things. And Lupa came in there to just shop and he hid in like the break room or downstairs in the basement because he didn't want Lupe to ever be able to say, yo, you sold me clothes when he got famous, which to me is a really weird thing to think of. That's just, that's weird. That's weird. That you're thinking like that and that far down the line. And thinking that me and Lupe will have beef one day. And maybe Cuddy was

right this whole time and maybe he's one of the aliens that can see the future. I can't trust people that think that far down the line. To have beef with someone I think that's strange. I think you can think down the line like one day maybe I'll work with Lupe. Not that far though. That's like because now you're seeming everything you do

now from this point on to me if you tell me like that's your way of thinking, I think that you're way too calculated. This is like a that's so raven moment. Like he, you know? In camouflage. Yeah. Like he had the premonition and then he made it become true but it never really was a until he invited that into his, you know.

But I'm with Moll, though, if I'm watching this interview and we have no, well, I think Cuddy did go on to say, well, he doesn't even like me, so look at that. I would feel right about not liking you, because why are you thinking that? That makes me think you're trying to have beef with me. It's weird. It's weird for you to just, like,

you're creating this energy now between us. Like, you ever meet somebody and you feel like y'all have an issue, but you don't know what it is? Yes. That's just, it's like, bro, like, I do that a lot. Like, there'll be people, but see, what I realize is it's because, or what I think it is, in my case, I think that when you see somebody like that, that you feel like there's always something, whatever you see them, just like the energy is weird. I think that's because that person has spent so much time talking shit about you that when they finally see you, they're acting like, oh, shit, he may have heard me. He may have heard something I said.

Yeah, there's so the energy is just weird. So what I do is I throw them off their whole script because they're acting anyway. They're acting like they like me when they don't. I throw them off their script and just say what's up to them first? I'm like, yo, what's up, fam? How are you? And I just watched them like, oh, I was supposed to say that.

Like, you know what I'm saying? Like take their line from them. I'm like, yeah, that was you, you just scripted with me, you acting with me because you really don't fuck on me. And I don't know why, which is weird. Because it's like as men, why do you not like me, especially if I don't know you and I never like. Well, you're catching them in their own brain going,

oh, fuck, I forgot we, this beef is one side of. Exactly. Exactly. It's like, I don't have, I don't know you to have it. I've only talked behind us back. Right. It may have gotten back to him. He may have heard something I say, are we going to fight right here?

Like, no, we're not. I'm going to say what's up to you and make you feel awkward. When the reality of it is, you never said anything publicly. So why should there be an issue? Exactly. You're in your brain. So I feel like that's what a lot of this is. Yeah.

And then I think, I think in 2016 it was, Lupe was doing like customized verses on Twitter for 500 bucks, which Cuddy said, and I quote, according to hip hop DX, because I don't remember this beef, was that's a big sketch. So maybe that's what this is all about? I suppose, even in my research, it was hard to find much stuff that was a problem between the two of them. But Lupe, this only happens in hip-hop. Lupe in no way has ever been good music, per se.

But he was like, you know, a cousin almost. He was always around the good music camp. And we've heard about internal issues between Sean and Cuddy, between Kanye and Cuddy, I think there's more behind the scenes that we're not as privy to, even though we have a few examples of why they have beef. I just, this is just hip. I feel like if Slash said, yo,

I'm doing $500 guitar solos, right? I don't think that Chris Martin from Coldplay jumps in and be like, yo, that's a little sketch. He might have got hacked. Yeah, like, I don't, this only happens in hip hop. Yeah, and I guess it's a little odd because Cuddy, like, he tweets, but, like, why are you coming out of your cave to talk about my $500 version?

I can understand that. Either way, we're talking about Cuddy moving a little weird during that Zane interview. I think we can give people grace and redemption when they openly admit, hey, I've been moving weird. He just had a reconciliation with Kanye, and I thought penned like a great letter about their relationship and how he's moved and it's not just on Yeh, even though Yewows out. I still have a lot to do with it. And it seems like he took that healing energy and went to Twitter and the now deleted tweets, I'll paraphrase. because for some reason we can only find all the hate, said to Lupe, hey, I moved weird before.

I apologize. Shouldn't have been doing any of that. Which Lupe immediately, and I saw this part in real time, said, that's all they ever needed. Which I feel them. Sometimes you just need someone to apologize and say what they're wrong for, and you're good. No, because what happened was he, I'm going to give you what really happened.

He saw one of those videos of Lupe swinging that samurai in his backyard. I'm terrified. And then decided like, you know what, this ain't the nigger you want to beef with. He knows something I don't. Yeah, Lupe's scary because Lupe can fight with his hands. And he subscribes to the Second Amendment in a great way. And if the Second Amendment's taken away, he can get on his samurai. Yeah, he's got a catana.

Yeah, you don't want to. Like, he's going to survive. Like, whatever, when we're talking about if the ghost, the aliens or the zombies attack, Lupe is one of the people I would want to be like in the same neighborhood as. Yeah. I'm going to get behind Lupe because he's a good neighbor to have. He's a good neighbor to have if the zombies come back, for sure. So you don't want to mess with somebody like on their downtime.

They're just doing like samurai solos on IG. Like, I just don't think that's the guy. It's other rappers you can go at. Because Cuddy probably can, well, Lupa can outwrap you. Yeah. He's probably going to beat you a street fighter. 100%. And then he knows how to swing a samurai or katana, whatever the fuck you call it.

And I'm sure he's proficient in numchucks. All of that shit. And you can like find anything and make it a numchup. Yeah. So like I'm, yeah. He just thought someone... Yeah, leave Lupe alone, man. You remember back when Lupe called in the old spot

and mistaken me for somebody that said something about him? Yes. And I bitched up immediately. I was like, that was not me, Lupe. I am a fan. You have me mistaken with another white person. I did not say a bad word about you. And now I'm terrified that I've been walking around this world

not knowing I had beef with Lupe Fiasco, but we cleaned it up and it was the wrong person. Yeah. All white people look alike. so I don't fault him. With that said, after this, that's all I needed. Five minutes later, Lupe did what I do sometimes as well. Nah, fuck that. I need more than a apology. We got to talk. And then for the next 24 hours, it was a bunch of Lupe tweets, which you've already quoted so far. I want to beat this nigga up so bad. I'm getting a migraine. That's hilarious. That should be in a museum.

Kit Cuddy is a bitch and continues to be a bitch. Ain't nobody fin to bring up. He used to work at the babe store to dis his bitch ass for having a regular job there before he was famous. And now he does an interview a couple days ago. It says, I'm mad at him because he used to hide from me at the babe store. Hiding in the babe stores is funny. Before he was even in the music game because I would use it against him later on on a disc record on some job shame.

That's nasty work. Yeah, that's just weird to think that, man. But then they went back and forth of, like, like seriously, let's go a little, let's just look a little deeper into that thinking. Like how how insecure is Kid Cuddy? That's because he put himself. I think he's admittedly.

It's pretty evident. Yeah. Yeah, but it's like, bro, nobody. But you cause more, you cause more problems by being that insecure than like, oh, it made his career.

I mean, it made some good music. It made some good music. But still, it's like now it, you know what I'm saying? In real life, it transfers into relationships not with people where it's like, do you thought that I would dish you later on for working at a bait? Like, that was in your brain.

So you manifested this energy that I may or may not have for you. What are you going to say? Oh, I forgot. I'm all getting this shit off. I'm just saying, like, think about how insecure that is. Well, I mean, if you look at Cuddy's history, it is not just with the good music example I was making. And I'm going to really pitchfork a nerd out here. I remember when Cuddy and Wale were like the next guys before even Drake was the next guy.

And they had beef. Yeah. And this is where I do have respect for Cuddy in the way he talks about his mental illness and his insecurity because I know he's actually telling the truth and not exploiting it. The mentally ill person is very tough to deal with. Yeah.

Like that's where I laugh that a lot of these singers and artists will do the mentally ill thing on a record. And then in person, you're not mentally ill. That's how I know you're exploiting it. You're a joy to get along with that. In real life. And I respect Cuddy now for this, late into his career and his life having reflections of,

I didn't handle things very well with a lot of people. And I also respect Lupe for being like, I need more than just an apology while I was tripping on Twitter. I understand that. And then they went into a whole DM exchange. Let's talk in real life. Away from this timeline, social media. Let's talk in real life.

Let's get on the phone. Let's have a real conversation. Again, and I think that's, you know, it's okay for things to play out like that. But then privately, we also need to have a conversation as well. I respect that. What I like from this exchange when it got to the now better side of things, they'd had the phone call privately, like you said.

But to close the chapter and to let the public know because it's all started on the timeline, he did detail, hey, I was wrong. I apologize, my bad. So I like that. Like at least give the, you don't owe people an explanation, but it's nice to see that you came back here. Accountability. Yeah, exactly. Accountability.

Changes everything in our culture, changes everything in our lives. if we just take accountability for the things that we do. And sometimes you get to a point where you might have to take accountability for the things that you don't do. I've seen situations where it was like that wasn't my fault. But you know what? My bad. I apologize. Have Sean and Cuddy ever dead at their beef?

That would be one I would like to see. The same way I would love Lupe and Cuddy to make music together. I would love Sean and Cuddy to make music together again as well. Because they, yeah, they had it. Theirs is a little personal. Yeah. So, which I mean from the outside looking in, I'm not sure Sean did anything wrong. But, you know.

Thinking about rap beef and beef over the years in hip hop. Like, you know, you get older. You start to think differently. And like, you think like, yo, did some beefs and some, you know, unfortunate events have to happen in order for the culture to grow and other artists to, you know, become who they are and things like that? It's a lot of things that happened that I think we don't think we don't think about enough. Like, what if that doesn't happen?

Like, what do we, if we don't lose Tupac or Biggie, like how much did that affect the culture and how much did that allow for the culture to shift and grow? I mean, that's a good question. But always, I don't want to like bring it into a hove thing. But I always hate that, yo, if Big didn't die, hove wouldn't be where. at, but I mean, they did pass and things changed. So I don't even really understand the angle of that, that combo sometimes. Yeah, I'm sure things would have been drastically different if two superstars didn't die at 24 and 25. And also, I look at Beefs where no one was killed, 50 in game, if they would have stayed together.

I think they both would have had a longer run in the way they did at that time in their careers. Game went on to have an amazing discography. Obviously, 50 is doing just fine. But I think the two of them together, we get a longer run music out of them in the Billboard charts. But we also got amazing disc records from them. So it's like, all right, does it matter? But you know, I mean, Jay and Nas, not much changed. It's great to see them together.

But I'm just saying, just think about just the beef aspect because we don't talk about enough. I'm talking about rap beef. Yeah, yeah, yeah, rap beef. I'm like, what happens if, like, how many years did we lose because of a Jay and Nas feud? How many years of great music from those two together did we lose? Because they were both at a younger age, you know, they were both experiencing different. Like, this was Jigga and Esco. This was Hove and Esco at that time.

Yeah, but how many moments do we lose? And I'll use them as an example because from my understanding, I don't know. I don't think anyone was harmed or passed away. Right? Some nasty things were said between each other. Right. But look at the amazing moments we got out of, I'm okay with on wax negativity.

That's a battle. Look at the moments we got with takeover, with ether, with super ugly, with like other freestyles, the radio moments we got, summer jam, like what could have been Power 105 shit with Nas doing some insane things with a noose.

But we got a bunch of great moments out of beef. I think it's great when no one, is harmed because we get great moments. Yeah, but I don't know if they don't have that beef that they ever get to become friends because it's probably just a bunch of tension that was there before. And we're going to work together. They're going to send subliminal shots. They never really get to this moment without that confrontation.

So I don't think we get anything. I think now we got a bunch of great moments with music and now they're friends because they finally had that confrontational moment. Maul, I get your point, but I don't think any song. that Holden Esco would have did at their height when they were beefing, any song that they would have did together wouldn't get quoted as much as leaving condoms on your baby car seat. Like, I don't think anything would be quoted as much as that. So I get like, no.

No. No. Hell no. That's what gets quoted more? Conams on your baby seat or he was the son of my mother's friend. On Latin Republican. But I mean, you're going to quote a beef lyric more anyway. That's just like you're throwing a shot at somebody.

Anytime somebody throws a shot, that's going to be quoted more. But I don't think we get the growth that Jay and Nas have between their relationship without the confrontation. The moments were great. And I don't think you get the Art of War concert. That was the name of it? I declare war concert where they ended up making peace, which was ironic, I guess, in Entandra. I don't think you get... But they did Black Republican?

No, that was before. They did Black Republican after. This was the first time they were on stage together. Yeah, I declare war. Yeah, I don't think you The growth I think does come out of confronting Detention that there is between two people Like they were sending shots from, you know, volume two

And on I am Nas was throwing shots Shit, he might be on street Either way. It was going on for so long With all these little shots And they weren't friends, they weren't making music Finally they had a confrontation And then after that they had a real conversation

And became friends like this is stupid. Sometimes you don't have real conversations until you actually have the confrontation and have the all-out bullshit. Sometimes that breaks the ice. Yes. Like, listen, we know. I'm saying there's obviously. It's obviously some tension here. It's obviously some women in common here.

You know how that goes. I mean, you know how that goes. Like, that's usually why artists have beef with each other. Yeah. If you just let niggas talk long enough, a girl name going to pop up like, oh, there is. That's why they don't fuck with each other. So it's good to see, you know, people or men. or artists get older and move past certain things and become more mature.

But sometimes I do sit back and think, like, it's a lot of shit that happens in our culture that I think if it was avoided, if certain beefs were avoided. I think how many things would we have gotten if that was avoided? I think we get Jay and Nas's good end story, unfortunately because we got, I mean, of course, big and pox thing was much different and a lot more things were attached to it. And maybe the ending really had nothing to do with their actual beef. But because of that, I think that was probably in the back of Jay and Naz's brains. Yeah. They were very close to that shit. And not only that, we live in the same city and our friends live in the same city.

And we frequent the same spots. That could have gotten way worse than the East Coast West Coast beef. We're in the same. We all go to this club in Manhattan. I think that was a big part of the beef too, though. It was like we both from the same city. It can only be one king of New York. Yeah.

I mean, that's the shots that were taking to each other. Yeah, but it's like, it's cool. but it's just whack that it always has to be a beef though. Like we could be competitive. Hip hop is a competitive genre and our form. But I just feel like it doesn't always have to go beef to be competitive. Yeah. I also think, and I'm not being messy because she said it publicly.

Carmen having a miscarriage with Jay's baby is crazy because like she would have Nas and Jay's baby. Nause Air Carter. That'd be fucking wild. I mean That's a crazy Christmas I'm child support payments Look where she go

Right to the child support payments What's what you go? What about being raised in the house of love? What about being a very artistic kid? What about the nuclear family? Yeah, just child support payments We've seen Naz and Jay both be great fathers Yes, but neither of them

It wouldn't be a nuclear family. It would be the Brady Bunched with Boombap. Okay. That's sick. You think about it, that's sick. Carmen's face in the middle. Artwork alert. Oh, man.

Doesn't Michelet have babies with Shug and Dr. Dre? That's got to be an interesting Christmas. How do you know that? How do you not know that? I watched the Michelet Doc. Yeah. Or the series. Surviving Compton.

Yeah. Surviving Compton. I think it was surviving. Do they still have where are they now? I don't think so, no. They don't do that no more? Wasn't that on? Like, what channel was that on?

Where are they now? MTV, if I'm not mistaken. Or VH1? No, not that one. VH1. VH1. Is that where are they now? Oh my God,

I used to love that show. Yeah. Yeah, I missed that, man. Click it. Which show was this again? Where they would talk about some artists from like the 90s, early 2000s. Oh, yeah.

It was like a nice little history. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I remember this. And they were just giving an update on where these artists are, what they're doing, you know, what they did after their big hit or their big, you know, album and things like that. But in a VH1 way.

Like this would be hilarious if HBO did it. Yeah. Like with artists that aren't doing it. But each one was themed. So it wasn't just music. It was like musicians, kids stars, uh, bands,

totally 80s. So it was like you focus on an era and then get the history of it and see where the people that were leading that are. Most of them were dead. I mean, you know. Oh, thank you.

Thanks for drugs. We appreciate it. Wow. They're going to do a, I can't wait until they do the podcast one 20 years from now. Look where she's trying to put it. 20 years from now? What?

You're trying to suggest we'd be dead? No. Okay. I didn't suggest that. That was the theme of the show, though. Not all the artists weren't dead. Are you good? All the artists weren't dead.

Anyways, do we have voicemails? We do. I wanted to start today. We haven't done this before. I think it'd be interesting. So we had that really great call in about the father. who is nervous about being empathetic and loving to his son, his 11-year-old son. So we had another gentleman call in that's also from Michigan.

And he wanted to give that guy advice and add to that conversation. So I figured I'd play this first. We'd probably end up talking a little bit about it. And then I have a whole new voicemail. But this seemed like a fun tie-in. Hello. My name is Joshua. I'm from North Carolina.

Not a question, but I'm more so calling in reference to Bobby from North Carolina who submitted a voicemail. I just kind of wanted to respond to it and just tell him that, like, I know how he feels. I'm a young father as well. My son's only two. And there's a lot that I had to learn. And it's kind of that in today's modern world, you're not going to be able to get by with just protecting and providing. You are going to have to show your son a lot of effects.

especially early on. And you can temper that affection as he gets older and it's time for him to more so learn things about being a man. But while he's a kid, you do need to show him that affection because he needs to have that trust built up in you. That's just how kids are. They are going to receive things different than we are with our adult logical thinking brain. kids are not going to receive things the same way. Even if you guys don't share this on the podcast, I do hope you share it with Bobby

because I would really like for him and his son to just have the best relationship that they can go forward. All right. God bless. Oh, that sounds nice from a good word. From a potential red state as well. Yeah, that was nice to hear that he cares about. Sounds like he was on his John here, get ready to go and tend to the grass.

He didn't really tell. you how to do that though. Yeah. No, you're just saying it was more of an encouragement rather than, like you're saying you're do the right thing. It wasn't a tutorial.

Yeah. Yeah, but I mean, the other gentleman was nervous to even do it, let alone how to do that. Well, that's probably because he didn't have that in his life.

I think he said that, right? Growing up, he wasn't. Yeah, so, I mean, Josh needs to give us some answers. Roy's like, yeah, you didn't really answer. You put this all on Josh?

Me and the other gentleman were nervous about that. Listen, raise your kids with love. Simple. Love your kids. Raise them in love. A lot of people don't know how to love as an action. They only know love is an emotion.

A lot of people do not know how to actively like love. You'll figure it out. You will. As long as you love your kids. I was saying this caller didn't give it by mall's advice. You'll figure it out. I'm just saying. I'm going to say, I don't know how to figure this out.

No, like, you know, perfect. Here's a perfect example. Perfect example. He wasn't, he wasn't raised in, only child. Was you, I mean, well, I think he was raised in love. But he feels like maybe there was some things that he missed out on. Now with his daughter, that doesn't transfer to his daughter. Well, if you, love.

If you remember the voicemail. First time father. He doesn't really know what he's doing. He's figuring it out because he loves his daughter. And my response to the original voicemail, not this gentleman's, was I was also thinking if I have a son, how to have the same love that I have for Amara because of how we were raised in the era we were raised in, I may have a different viewpoint, which is fucked up and unnecessary, that I may not

give my son the same amount of love based off that stupid misogynist thought that we need to raise our sons as men, and they don't get as much affection in love. So I agreed with the last guy. It's a nerve-wracking feeling. That's why I kept saying to y'all, before Amara was born, I want a daughter first. Outside of the selfish reason that daughters take care of their fathers and sons just tell their fathers to fuck off and, you know. Send you to the nursing home. You'll be all right.

I also thought that because of how I was raised and maybe not some of the most healthy ways that I would probably adjust to loving a daughter that I would to a son. I may be a little harsher to a son, which I don't want to do, but I am self-aware of how I was raised. I don't think so I think you'll be just as loving

and soft with your son as you do. I do too and I have confidence in it but it still is a thought in the back of your head like I understood the last voicemail before when he was saying he was a little nervous about it it's not the same as having a daughter. I think it's little things like if your daughter falls

and hits her knee like you jump up quicker and kind of run to them but if it's your son you kind of peek at him and watch how he's going to like that's kind of what we're talking about on the fall scale But still love and encourage your son, but it's not the same like handle with delicacy as you would with your daughter. Like you're very delicate with your daughter. And, you know, even when she's not just a child anymore, you're still like very soft with her.

And then you get to a point with your son where it's like you wanted to see how he would, how he would problem solve or how he would figure out whatever, you know. The other side of being raised in a misogynistic society is that very thing. that our son sometimes don't get as much attention because we figure they just have to figure that shit out. Well, some people... Nobody a man figure that shit out when they're like, hey, I kind of need some parenting here. But I've seen a lot of fathers on, like, social media

where they train their daughters like and, like, you know, treat them like, give them the same treatment they would give their son. Yeah, it's healthy. Sports, boxing, all of these things. Very physical, very athletic, very, like, you know, they encourage that too, like, teach them how to, like, handle themselves, how to do things like with cars, how to change the tie.

Like a lot of women always say, my dad taught me how to change the tire, how to do things with a car and things like that. Like, I think that's great too. Women should know how to do those things. Yeah, but to the original callers point and even this follow-up point, I don't think it's so much about the physical skill building per se. I think he's just talking about, yeah, the affection and empathy you have for their emotional side.

Love your kids. Hug your kids. So, yes. Like there is no playbook. but you need to be the person that's saying the things and being vocal with your child. So I think it helps when people call in and you're like, yo, bro, I'm doing the same thing and I'm trying as well. So I know it's not like you didn't give like the best advice, but he's like, yo, you're not alone. Let love lead the way.

I didn't think of it that way. Well, yeah, well, shoot. We can we can cut all that and just play that part. Let love leave the way. Let love lead the way. You'll figure it out. All right. Speaking of love, we have a classic.

tale. I think DeMaris can carry the answer on this next one. It's about love from high school and seeing it through 10 years down the line. Oh, fuck you. Jesus Christ. There you go. What's going on, guys? All right, I got to fit this in real quick.

Pause. So, I knew this girl back in high school and we were super cool. We dated, talked, or whatever for a short period of time. Fast forward, I'm 31 years old. My best friend moves in with his girlfriend and his girlfriend's best friend also happens to be the girl who I was referring to who I knew back in high school.

So we all hung out and I hadn't seen her in years, 13, 14 years. I haven't seen her in so long. And, you know, like I said, we got along so well back in the day and, you know, even when we met up this time, like, I felt like she got on my jokes. She understood my humor. Now, what I'm thinking is that I should just play, like, the slow game and just tell the homie and be like, yo, like, let's all like kick it again. Like, no pressure. Like, I don't want to be like, yo, hey, like, is she single?

Like, you know, type shit. I just kind of want to play the slow game and then just like letting things naturally happen. I'd love to get everybody's perspective, you know, Julian, Rory, Damaris, small. don't fuck it even yomi but yeah I'd appreciate you guys and thank you so much for creating good content every week. Thank you so much

take care. Thank you Damien for that voicemail. Just quick immature point before we get to the real thing. Is he sure that his homie's not knocking it down? What? It's his it's his girlfriend's best friend. Oh okay cool. Still asking. They moved in together right?

He moved in with his girlfriend. We were just talking about off microphone that you guys accidentally eat pussy with your friends. Whoa. Oh, you're talking about you. To Damaris. Okay. That was directed at Damaris.

You're looking at audio. Yeah. Yeah, you did say that. Okay. You did say. I'm looking for your point. I'm looking for you to drive at home. Oh, I don't have a point.

I'm just asking if, like, maybe someone else is fucking her. Okay, that might be possible. Well, I'm sure somebody. I'm sure she's having sex with somebody. But, like. His point. Wasn't she brought into the circle by his other friends? he was bought into the circle.

They have, oh, Jesus. His best friend has a girlfriend. The girlfriend's best friend is the girl from high school. Gotcha. Cool. I said immature. And I'm sure she's having sex with some guy or girl in the world, I'm sure. What she's doing with her pussy doesn't matter.

That doesn't. It matters when I start doing something with it, though. He's not even there yet, Ma. Well, he's trying to get there. That's why he's going to leave it a voicemail. He's trying to figure out, yo, how do I get to the next? Listen, man, just tell, let it be known, man. Don't play the slow game because then you slow

and then she started dating somebody else or... No, play the slow game. This is why. This is why. What do you think he beat first in high school? I don't think so. He's not acting like he's not acting like he saw her naked before. Because when you saw a girl naked before and you ain't moving like this.

They were in high school. Even when I was in high school. If I had sex with a girl in high school and now that we're adults, you think that I'm going to be like, yo, like, should I play the slow game? You know how much can happen? 13 years. It don't matter. Like, we've already crossed that threshold. Maul, yes, it does. If we had sex in high school. You don't think she changed in 14 years? That's not what I'm saying. I'm saying I'm not going to be like, yo, should I play the slow game?

Yeah, it's a whole new human being. I'm not saying. I don't know her. You don't know her at all. You don't know her at all. Bro, I understand that. Y'all keep saying the same shit. What I'm saying is, I'm not saying you go right at him like, yo, what's good? I'm trying to fuck again. That's not what I'm saying. I'm saying I'm not going to be calling a podcast. Remember the chemistry? Like, yo, what do you think I should do? Should I play the slow? You're not going to call a podcast. I'm going to be, I'm going to talk to her. Like, yo, like, what's going on?

What's going on? What's new in your life? How you been? It's no calling asking. Should I play the slow game? I know this girl. We had sex before. Like, I'm not playing.

You don't have to play the slow game with somebody who had sex before. Now you don't just try to ram it in her again. Like, no. But you definitely don't be like, yo, should I play the slow game and like, hey. No. No, let's hear. Okay. So, Debaris doesn't agree.

you please let her Jesus fucking Christ I want to get back to that point though I do think that you should play this slow game in this I think that you should ask your homeboy

if she's dating anybody because your home boy is probably gonna keep that to himself or where he might have a conversation with his girl whatever but I do think that you know you should find out if she is dating anybody

which honestly that doesn't unless she has a boyfriend that doesn't matter because what I don't want to happen because she is a completely different person than she was 14 years ago so you might still be on that type of time but she might

she ain't though because we don't never talk about how a lot of y'all don't be the same person right or wrong you never beat a girl you went to high school with you ain't seen in 50 you be like you're still on that you're still the same chick like that happens he seems like a reasonable guy I don't think if she was the same person he'd be wanting to pursue seems like they rekindle he was like oh you turned out to be a pretty cool person how did you get that from a minute and 28 second voicemail because he said it Seems reasonable. He said that she wasn't the same girl since high school?

No, but he said... No, he's saying he liked her then and he's still likes now. Oh, she gets my humor and like, yeah, like after they're rekindling of seeing each other again, he got to know her again because it's high school. Okay, so is it... 14 years later, you are not the same person. Okay, so it's safe to assume that a lot of things about her still the same because he's still attracted to her.

She might still be cool. Yeah, people's personalities usually don't change. Some do. Sometimes, but your personality usually does that. You do not go from being a bubbly. Now, see, now you're saying what I'm saying, because it happens. A lot of traumatic shit happens to you. It happens.

Your personality changes from high school or sometimes it doesn't. That's all I was saying. Sometimes it doesn't. But I just feel like people's personality is their personality. If you are a bubbly, funny person, you're usually, you usually continue to be a bubbly funny person. You might not be as bubbly. You might not be as optimistic.

Your worldview might change. But I know that you were an asshole when you were in a fucking elementary school, elementary school, middle school. That's all I was waiting on. I was waiting for the elementary. He didn't say anything. I was trying to get you to do it. Don't get you to that mentary one time for us, baby.

Side note, I was getting my eyebrows waxed on camera when I was up in Syracuse and my waxer was talking about her daughter and she said elementary and all the fans were like, oh my God, this is really a Syracuse thing. Like even the girl said it. But yeah, anyway, I knew you were an asshole your whole entire life. You were pretentious your entire life. That's not true. I can see it.

You can develop that. That is not true. When did you become a pretension? first of all I'm not pretentious we're not gonna do that we're not gonna do that we're not gonna

you own a Chris Angel Mind freak book personally how does that pretend that's that's dirtbag that's dirtbag shit that's not pretentious

I just wanted to get that off my bad I'm sorry you buy matches instead of light you're pretentious how's that pretentious I like older things okay except for women

but I get it I like older women yeah how old? I mean take your time I had a no phase But that's probably

Because that was your favorite category on Brazzers So you probably just I was like 22 They were probably 20s Yeah Okay What I was trying to tell him is Ask if she's single

From her homeboy Take it slow with her Because she might not look at you The same way I know me myself There's plenty of men that I'm cool with Or whatever That I might have had something with

In high school I wouldn't touch them With a 10 foot pole We could be cool we can be really cool, but just please do not remind me that we slept together that we were ever dating. Like, it's fucking embarrassing. So I don't know if she feels that way about you. Wait, you don't want to, wait, wait, wait.

So if you slept with a guy at high school, you see him, you don't want him to remind you that you that you slept together? No. What do you want to be like 15 years later? Remember that one night when we were, that's crazy? That's nuts. Remember we were going through puberty and trying to figure out our bodies? Remember when I figured you and class? I like, no.

I try to forget about those things. Okay, so you met, you met a girl on. You was dating a girl in high school. You see her now as a grown man. man, you see her, you telling me this has never happened, y'all have never spoken about when y'all used to fuck with her. If I see her as a grown man? No. I think she had a transition.

Yeah. You're the grown man. Okay. So you see her now. Clearly I'm not. You see, no, he isn't. You see her now. You mean to tell me like, and y'all fucked with each other in high school. That doesn't come up at all in confidence. I think it's the unspoken thing. I think you both obviously know your history. But I think if it's been 15 years, you start with,

hey, you reminisce on certain things, but you're not like, remember when I beat? No, like, why would that come up? That would make, that would make me 32 if we graduated at 18, 14 years later, 32 years old, if I see a girl I went to high school with, I'm not talking about when I beat when I was a junior. Yeah, in like 2008. Like, not at all. That's weird. I think it's weird that y'all don't talk about it.

No. If we want to fuck again, it may come up. You don't make me nauseous, actually. But I'm what I'm saying? Why do y'all keep saying when it comes up in the conversation? I'm asking y'all, does it ever come up at all in the conversation? No. I'm not saying so we're just in a yo.

Remember I fucked you that summer in 9-8 or 2003? That's not what I'm saying. I'm saying that does it come up at any point in the fucking conversation? No. I know I'm the oldest one in this room, but why the fuck are y'all acting so stupid? What the fuck is wrong with y'all? Wait, in the scenario? You had sex.

Why would it not come up? What the fuck are you talking about? It was four of them, five of them hanging out. I'm going to be that. I'm going to be that weirdo when we're all just chilling at the kickback. No, just let y'all know we used to fuck when we were teenagers. That's weird. I didn't say it had to come up like that.

I'm talking about if you and her having a conversation, that doesn't come up at all. To me, that doesn't come up at all. No. That you had sex before and now y'all see each other again in life. Not saying it has to come up as soon as you see. Yo,

Yo, you know, you're saying. Steve Sarah. Why is me? Yeah. Why is me Sarah? Any fucking name.

Yo, Crystal. Yo, you remember the bathroom, yellow staircase? You suck me. I'm not saying that. I'm saying at any point, if you see somebody you went to high school with,

that you had a sexual relationship with, as an adult, that doesn't come up in conversation at some point. In the first convo of not seeing someone in 14 years, I probably would have a lot more high school reminiscing things to talk about. Because that's what you bring it up? They've only had one conversation. I understand that. But now the conversation that's progressing, I'm asking you all at any point, if you see

somebody that you had sex before in high school, does the conversation come up again? If it goes well and it's comfortable for the next few convos, yeah. Maybe. Okay. You're just letting you know. That's weird. But I also wouldn't even know how to bring that. have sex with a girl and not talk about it.

I just let you know I've gotten a lot better. Like, what would I even say? Unless I want to fuck you again, I'm not bringing that up. Unless I want to fuck you again, I do not want that brought up. Please do not remind me that we used, like, I want to cringe. Like, anybody I, because I'm, maybe it's because I'm a girl, but like girls look back and who they used to sleep with when they were younger, it's like cringe, like disgusting. Like, I want that.

Because girls that I fucking high school bring it up to me that we fuck. That's because you're rich now, ma'am. You got nothing to do with that. This ain't got none to do with that. I'm talking this is years. Years. You're big eight. You're a eight.

Fuck all that. It's a natural thing to do it. You don't sweep it under and act like it never. That's, to me, that's weird acting like it never. Now, I said, again, it doesn't have to come up as soon as you see this, girl. I'm just saying, at some point, if y'all reconnect and start kicking it again, just like on some regular conversation shit, it's natural for that to be part of the year. So you're telling me there's nobody you fuck when you was in high school that you embarrassed that you fucked them? Of course it is.

But there's also. Ten, 15 years ago that you embarrassed that you fucked them? Of course it is. But what I'm saying, it's all. also something that I'm not. Okay, but what I'm saying is you're acting like it's just beyond you to think that somebody would want to forget that they fuck somebody. I'm not, that's not what I'm saying. I'm saying that I'm asking you if you see somebody whether it was great, whether it wasn't, I'm saying is it not, is it not natural for if y'all reconnected at some point during that

conversation of y'all like reconnecting again for that to come, whether she brings it up or you bring it up, that's a natural thing to me. Yes, if they want to fuck again. Even if they don't want to fuck it. It's just not our first priority is what I'm saying. We're not saying it can't come up. It's just not a priority. Cool. I'm with you on that. We agree on that one. All I'm saying is it is natural for it to come up in conversation again.

There's girls that I slept with in high school that I don't want to sleep with now, but they've brought it up in conversation like. Because they're not embarrassed that they slept with you. Right. But what I'm saying is it happens. I was trying to make it seem like to me that it does, that doesn't. That's weird. But in his case, it seems like he's trying to do like group hangs.

And I think just let him get to know her. He's trying to fuck. My point in what I was trying to tell him. He can be a. You can be a gangstander gentleman. There is a chance that she is embarrassed that she used to fuck with him. So don't bring it up

because you don't know how she feels about it. That's why I said take the slow game. Because he's like, oh, I want the chance. I want the chance. And you definitely should reach for that chance. No, but he still. He also changed this because we all said we don't think he beat. He just said they talked to.

Even still, she might be embarrassed that she talked to you. No, no. You can't be embarrassed to you talk to somebody in high school. Yeah, the fuck you can. I'm embarrassed to some girls I slept with in high school, but a girl that I talked to like flirted with I have no embarrassing. I'm embarrassed some niggas

have my phone number. Oh, see, come on. I am. Stop. And it's probably something that's my aim game was crazy. There's so many girls

I don't. I'm shooting niggas bail. I'm here to shoot niggas bail. And some niggas is Syracuse that's like, you know, I used to talk to showty. Find them. Yeah, I'm sure this in my,

all my niggas in the cues, all my niggas that go to motherfucking, oh, what's the school up there? Find them. Syracuse? No, the other one. Not. find them.

Lemoyne. I will pay you in them. Find them. Start a Facebook group. I just feel like everyone in Syracuse is on Facebook. They are. They are. Very actively.

Also, I don't want to shit on him, but how did you not get that question off in the regular catch-up conversation? What you went up to? Like, oh, you're married? Like, that's a catch-up conversation. Oh, you're married?

You got kids. You got, like, what's going on in your life? They're married to see each other in 14 years. How did you not get this info right away? Watch malls. No, go, go. The Maris acting like some niggas in Corcoran, you ain't knocked some niggas down to Corcoran? That's why you looked at that.

I would have never guessed. If that's what you were looking for, I would have never got it. Look up my high school. Wait, you went to Corcoran for real? Yes. Oh, I didn't know that. How do you know that place? My home boys went to Corcoran.

I got some people that went to Corcoran. I just didn't remember. I just didn't remember my home boys. That went to cute? I'm not. I'm not Vlad. I'm not Vlad. I'm not Vlad.

They live in New York now. They live in the city now. Yeah. Yeah, a lot of people from... You went to Corcoran for real? Yeah, someone to Corcoran. Oh, that's fire. But there's 1,200 students there. There's definitely some niggas in Corcoran that's tight.

They used to fuck with the marriage. When I was in Corcoran, I wasn't fucking people on Corcoran. Oh, then they're really tight. I ain't giving them pussy. Like, that's whack. Like, when a girl in your school that you like ain't giving you pussy, but this niggas at the school down the block and shingis is hitting that. If the pretty girl go to my school and I'm trying to holler and she ain't given me no rhythm,

but there's some niggas that go to our, like, rival high school, then go to that fucking high school. Then it's, Marge you transfer. You got to transfer, so then she'll hit. That's hate. Because I always felt like, oh,

it's dirty Mac and hating. Well, if it's hate, it's hate that. Fuck it, I'll wear that. Then I'm a hater. Yeah, get the fuck. Yeah, you're the pretty girl in school and she gave a niggas

from the rival high school. Nah, bro, you got to, showty transfer. It's transfer is crazy. Yeah, transfer. Get up out of here. Pretty girls on projects. Wouldn't fuck us.

We talked too much. They went up to Tompkins. Saw them dudes with trust. I don't know what the fuck. They thought them fuck they thought them niggas live foul just like us. That's hate. So beat. That's dirty mac. But it's also facts though. Can hate, can

facts be hate? Maybe. Sure. Maybe. Maybe. I'm here to give you that, my brother. Maybe. But it's facts, though. I don't know what the fuck she thought. Them niggas live foul just like us. There's also that thing in high school where it's cool to, because every girl looked prettier that didn't go to your high school. Exactly. All the dudes lusted over the chicks that went to your high school. The people you see in the hallway every day, it's like,

all right, like I see this person every day. But the person you catch once every time the football, the cheerleading squad from another school's in town once a quarter, you're like, that's the hottest girl I've ever seen. But then if you saw her every day, just be like, oh, that's so-and-so. Yeah. Nah, it's a girl I used to see every day. She was never whacked me. That bitch looked good every day.

Every day. The nigggy used to come and pick up in the Honda Hacksback. We know, man. I want to do. I want to pop on that nigga. I ain't going to lie, yo. Like, I ain't like that, Nick. And I don't even know him.

That was hate. There was the other side to that coin, though. That was hate. That was hate. I'm gonna see you could be real with the hate like I don't I didn't like him but I don't know him So that's hate like you know said but I just he had the prettiest girl in the school He was a little older he had a little Honda hatchback and all that Yeah nice system and all that I ain't like that nigg there's there's the opposite of what demeris did though

Wouldn't give anyone pussy at her school and fuck with other dudes There's the girl that gave everybody pussy at your school and then started going to other schools And then anytime other schools were in the same vicinity we would all laugh at the dude that wife the girl Because he didn't know he just thought it was a girl from another school that was pretty like, listen, man. Yeah, you don't know what she's doing over there. She went over to that school for a reason. Burned out over here.

Yeah. It happens, baby Dee. It happens. That's all I'm saying. It's fucked up. I know some things we shouldn't have did as kids, but it happens. I'm saying to close this, did he say his name? Damien.

All right. Damien. You don't need to gossip with your homeboy if she's single, what's going on. Next time you hang out with her, just catch up some more and ask her straight up questions. When I run into people I haven't seen in 14 years, I tend to ask. ask, even if I'm in a relationship, what's been going on with you? Are you married? Do you have kids? Your relationship? Like, what have you been doing? Like, what's going on? That's not weird to ask somebody? No, not at no. He could have just got that off. And due to group hangs,

because it sounds like you got a good thing with this crew. And then after a few of those, maybe, yeah, if you're reading it, you're reading the room, right? Do a little one-on-one. Yeah, just don't scare away because she might just, like, really look at you like a friend and, like, just want to be your friend again and it's happy to be around you. And then once she knows that you still like her, I'm like, like, like, you know, like it throws off the vibe. Do you think he likes her? Do you think he's...

Why does it throw off the vibe? Why would it throw? What if... Okay, cool. That may be true. But what if she's really like, yo, it's about time you said. But I said that that's a possibility.

I just said take it slow. Because if she doesn't feel that way, it will fuck up the vibe. That's all I said. It's a change that she likes him. Yo, Damien, check us out. I want them to end up together. Yo, Damien.

I want them to have the happily ever after. Listen, I'm going to help Damien out. Are you? Yo, Damien, listen, man. Listen, go get your best hair cut. All right. What if he's ball? Make sure that motherfucker gleaming.

You do your pretty privilege again, Ma. Put that, put coconut oil on your scalp, nigga. Make sure that shit shining like MJ in game six when you walk in that motherfucker, right? Put on your best outfit. Go to the mall. Be like, yo, listen, give me your best cologne. Right? Put your shit on, get your shit together.

Make sure you run into you. You can find out where they're going to be at. Your boy's girlfriend is her best friend. You can find out where they get ready to go. go this weekend to hang out. Get the drop. woke up in there, step right to her. You know what would be cute?

What if he made her a mixtape of the best songs of their senior year and like gave it to her at the kickback? No, that's gay. And like put the Sharpie and wrote it on the blank disc. No, that's gay. Ma, what else should he do? Or maybe, all right, a Spotify playlist. He gets the cologne, he pulls up on them and then what?

He pulls on and he step right to her. Like, yo, listen, I'm not playing this game with you no more. He's 14 years. I haven't been lost this between each other. I'm not trying to lose you again. Listen, are you seeing some? somebody, cool. How serious is it? Because I'm feeling you. I've been feeling you for years. Like, I'm trying to like... Just start for the first time.

14 years. Fuck that. Man, Damien, step to your business, man. Women love men that are confident, assertive, not aggressive, because there's a difference between assertive and aggressive. Be assertive. You know what I'm saying? And, you know, just step to it. I don't know. I act like, you know, I understand some years of change and people, years of past people change and, but you know her, man. I went to high school together. You know her.

You know her. You know her in here, here. Not this, not the aesthetics that have changed. No, you don't know that person, but you know her at her core. Like, we went to high school together. I know this girl. Like, we was cool. He could be driven by two things.

If he beat, he wants another shot, he's 14 years of past. He ain't, I know how to lay it down now. He ain't. I don't think he's driven by. It's the pussy that got away that he never got. Like, it's nostalgic pussy that he never got. Because Damien, let me want to just. let me tell you something because it can be driven by that.

It can be driven by that. But then you get it and it's not what you thought. You're going to be heartbroken. Yeah. I'm like, damn, all these years I thought I made a mixtape. I played over in my head. I thought this was going to be the greatest experience ever. It's not.

So just be confident. Yeah, be confident, be assertive and, you know, have fun with an old friend. Have you ever closed the loop on a friend like that? Somebody you haven't seen in say like at least 10 years time from high school or college or whatever and you got the chance to get in there and it wasn't it? Yeah. I think I told you about that before. It sucks.

There was one girl right when I like kind of sort of got kicked out of college that I saw from high school and I had a point to prove because I thought I, you know, didn't deliver in high school. So what did you do? Like, we fucked. Okay. How was it? It was good that time. And then I felt like really shitty because I realized that I did that just to prove that insecurities. Cuddy understands.

Yeah. I don't understand. That's common, though. It's... I think it's very common. Yeah. To have what? Insecurities after sex?

If you don't perform to your best abilities, you want to prove that... That was a fluke. Your fluke game. Yeah, like, I'm better than that. Give me another shot. I feel like girls do you out too. I feel like all humans feel that way. Yeah, I think it's a regular feeling.

How does a girl not perform? Yeah, I don't understand that. It's open. There's multiple things that could go something wrong with the pussy wise. There's multiple things that could... could happen. Like what? Like if you're too drunk.

Oh, I don't want no drunk pussy. Well, sometimes y'all both drunk, period. So it's not like, you know, she's like drunk, like falling out, but just like drunk to the point where your equilibrium is off. So you can't like really, it's very hard to throw ass back when your equilibrium is off. Or to, oh, God forbid, ride dick when your brain is not working and you're like, wobbly. It's like very.

It's like the bullet saddle edge. Yeah. It's very. That's when you're doing too much. Just lay on your side. I was going to sit up. You've never slept with a girl in the first time like she was reserved.

And then she got more comfortable with you and let her freak flag fly. The chemistry could be. Oh yeah, but I mean. She came back and was like, you know, she doesn't give it up that way on the first go round. Oh, yeah, yeah. That's happened.

But I mean, it wasn't whack. Like, I had a great time. Like maybe she didn't, she like arched it a little better and, you know, she got a little freakyer with the head and all of that. Like got a little nasty. Like, yeah, that happens, but I can't remember having, like, too much sex where it was like, oh, that was trash.

No, not like that. I'm not talking about, like, you're like, oh, okay, like afterwards. It's happened, but not a lot. Like, no, no, no, no, no, you can't. If I feel like you're not madly in love with me after sex, we got to do this over. We got to do this over. Yo, who do you think you are? That's not healthy.

Who do you think? That's really unhealthy. Yo, no, answer my question before you answer his question. Who do you think you are? I'm that nigg. How is that not healthy? Listen, I respect. Is that someone you want to be in love with or just have that ego boost that they are in love with you now?

And you're fucking them again just so you get that ego boost that you didn't get before. You're just as bad as Julian. That's, I was, whoa, that's way worse than me. Hold on. I'm referring to younger, obviously, like when you're, you know, when you're 19, 20, 21. Yes, it is an ego thing. It is an ego thing. Oh, I mean, I just said I had a ego boost when, you know, I was in kind of.

college and got the high school. Yeah, a lot of that. Back and did it better. A lot of the sex I had when I was younger was an ego thing. For sure. So most of it is. I think this Damian shit is a little bit of ego. No, I mean, you might really like her.

No, he might. Sounds like he has pure intentions. This is what. It's a little bit of. But we've, sometimes we all think we have pure intentions. You got it. And then we're like, oh, this was just. You're right, though.

It could be, I think the ego is driving because he's like he's doing that. He's looking into the past kind of thing. Damien. So you're telling me. that this, your home boy's girlfriend, this is her best friend. Have you been, have you really been watching this girl?

You're telling me you haven't, you don't know nothing about this girl for 14 years. Probably knows her dating history. Because there's no way, y'all didn't have each other on social media at all. So you didn't know who her best friend was.

Like this was all just, oh, whoa, what a co-winkie thing. I ain't gonna lie. If my best friend's girlfriend, her best friend is like a girl that I like, that's gonna be, that's almost like, that's stocking him alone right there.

Like, fam, set the screen. I'm coming off. I'm shooting this motherfucker. are you kidding me my best friend's girlfriend's best friend i like her yeah yeah yeah amy what the fuck are we talking about dream until one of y'all break up and i was about to say that's cool for like a week that's all i need to at least oh get get myself in the door to where now me and her have a line of communication i'm not saying like i need them to be cool forever but for me to get my foot in the door and now me and her are building our own little rapport

with each other a week is enough time yeah but they're saying once you hit then you're gonna fuck up you're gonna nuke the whole dynamic Like, who do you get in the divorce? Yeah, because now once you goes to her. Is that really a question? But then you can't really, like, come around if that's your man's... I think we had a voicemail that was kind of similar to the... Yeah, for sure.

There was some type of chaos in between fucking your homeboy's wife's friend and you do some foul shit and then you can't come around anymore for certain things. Oh, but yeah. If Amy does some foul shit, then... The foul shit would just be not talking about... Yeah, I'm not saying about, like, really foul shit, but, like, he just fucks and it doesn't work out and then it's awkward. That's foul.

Now home boy got to hear his girlfriend's mouth about Yeah, yeah, bum-ass friend played my friend And not out of the line It's foul to do that As a grown man, it's foul to do that We can just say it It's foul to fucking girl and just like not talk there after that That's foul.

I agree. Yeah, but even there's ways that it can Not go lead to a relationship That she could no matter what It doesn't go in that direction She could feel away You could still do it in a healthy way And not be foul and just be honest

Not be able to hang out Yeah, it's still weird At that point it's like Yo, come on man. Stop. Like, cut the weird shit out. Like, they dated. It didn't work out.

It's okay. We're all adults here. Like, we have to make it weird. What I think is even crazier is if she does give Damien the pussy and then she breaks it off. Then it's even more awkward. We're trying to look from the man's perspective like, oh, I want to fuck with that. Even worse, when she kicks you to the curb and you got to be around. When your home boy is down bad and surely like, yo, I don't want nothing to do with him.

You can't bring him around and shit. Then at the kickback, she's laughing at other dudes jokes, a little too much. See, that's how school shooters are born right there. No, no, it's buying Chris Angel's book. No, niggins shoot colleges, too. Don't get it twisted. Look, get a book of matches. Teach him magic.

You'll beat in no time. But this shit's like, girl, this nigga tried to do some match trick from me. I blocked his number. This thing can pull out this little ass book of matches and was like, hey, look, voila. You said, girl, I'll wall out my ass without at that restaurant. So, that ass. You know what I showed him? Him a magic trick. That nigga ain't never see me again.

How much of a loser I am and I'll actually give Julian credit. Because if I knew how to do a match trick, I would 100% do it in front of a girl. No way. There's no fucking way. And I haven't done it in front of it. First of all, I was a kid when I got that book. I got that book for myself. I wanted to learn magic. I wasn't like, this will get me pussy. I was like 12. Yo.

The fact that Julian wanted to learn magic, that's not funny. That's like, cool. No, it's not. It killed JFK. That shit. I was watching JFK dog. Yeah, last night. What did he say?

It killed JFK. I went to bed. It was a magic bullet. Yeah. Another doc of his on Amazon Prime. And they were talking about when they brought him to the hospital, they thought he was still. JFK? You just see the video?

Jacqueline Kent is so fucked up. She was walking into the operating room, like carrying like pieces of the brain his cerebral cortex and like putting it on the operating table like, make it work. It's his fucking brain. Like yeah, what do you mean? They thought he was still? How? Did they not see that footage? She refused to believe he was dead until, because the doctors were like he's cooked. Yeah. And she refused to believe it until, because they're very religious, the priest had to come in and determine the status of him.

She refused to believe it as she was holding pieces of his brain. Listen. That priest walked into the surgery room and went, Jesus. Whoa. My God. Yikes. You seen that. Jesus, H. Christ.

He didn't make it. No, come on. The reason why she jumped on the hood of the back of the car was to pick up pieces of his head. She was a wife. No, she was trying to get out of the car. Yeah. You have to give her some grace there. She was trying to jump out of the car.

No, she went. It's, I just watched it. No way. Picking up his head from the car. Really? The Secret Service jumped on the back to cover the president as if there was more needed to happen. But she was going to like. I thought she was trying to climb out of the car.

Like she didn't. No, she was, she was with him. Between that incident in Maryland Monroe, I think Jackie Kennedy is the definition of a rider die bitch. She was in that that convertible trying to pick up brains while bullets were flying. Multiple bullets. That's a rider die bitch. Back into the left. I've watched every last bit of footage for this.

And we don't need to break. I feel like we'll get flagged if we play this. So we're not, we won't play the visual. Yeah, I think Jackie was fucking Maryland on the side? Like on the low? Like, no? I think you're fantasizing. Oh.

Yeah. my bad. Yeah, I think she was at the summer house when that was happening. My bad. Why would you pull the video up? Look, no, because we're not going to play on YouTube, but look, she jumps up.

She's trying to get out of it. No, she's not. She's grabbing his fucking head. Look, and she gets right back in the car. Because the Secret Service agent is pushing her in the car, no, I'm trying to pull her off. She gets right back in the car and then, like, she grabs his head and, like, holds him.

She was, she's right. That's the definition. Let's try. Well, yeah. To close this, how would you guys feel at the next live show if we have women in the green room that Julian teaches me the match trick and I do it in front of them? I would leave.

Look, I... What if it worked? I'm going to show you. I'm going to teach all of you how to do. It's very easy. What if it worked, though? All right. What if it worked?

Yeah. Kea will J.F.K.O. asks if she see you pull out a book of matches. It's her experiment. I don't... Experiment. Just want to see if they're in... What if Kiu is impressed?

She probably would be. It is a nice. trick. Why'd you laugh like that? You don't impress Kia. He is, you don't, please don't pull out a book of matches. I don't impress you. Once we're done, I'm getting, I don't impress Kia. So maybe that would be the thing to do it. The matches for sure. Yeah. Yeah, maybe that's like my way. Amar would be impressed. No, she would.

No, she would love magic. Like, where'd that thing go? They love the whole peekaboo. You know what? This is how I know Omar's like really, really my daughter outside of looking identical to me. She is so over Piccaboo and just doesn't even react to it. She doesn't like the gimmicks. Because y'all probably dragged it. No, we didn't, we never did peekaboo. Dragged it. Everyone else like that's a natural thing to do the babies. Dragged it. Y'all dragged peekaboo. She looked at all yeah, you're trying to put me to sleep. I know what this is.

And we never did it. And then we would try to do it. And now other people do it. And she's like, Julian, can you throw some tissue, please? Yeah. She's like, I chew on the remote now. Oh, yeah. She's at that stage. Oh, God. And then I bought the fake rubber remote. No. She's not a fool. She's not an idiot.

Immediately, no. Yeah. No. She's not. Magic. Magic. I think magic, like, when it comes to, like, hudu, voodoo, santaia, like, those kind of things. I think those are cool.

How many guys are you doing that too? You said what? How many guys do you know? I don't play with love magic. I like, when I go to leave a nigga, he's not ready to kill me. I don't play with love magic. All right. Yeah, but what about, see, no, no, no, because you'd be letting Demaris get shit off.

What about when you don't want the nigga to leave? But no, but when you're talking about love magic, right? So if, let's say I'm madly in love with a man. I've been madly in love with plenty of men. You think you're madly in love. You go to do or you think you really, really want to do. You've been madly in love with plenty of men? Oh, jeez.

I don't mean literally plenty of all. Oh, I'm just asking you. I'm listening to you and I'm asking. What I'm saying is, is that you think when you're in love or when you really, really want someone, that that's it. Lust. Like, yeah, not even lust, but like, you know, you can, fall in love with someone and sometimes things end and you're ready to move on. When you're playing

with love magic, you're saying you're putting whatever spell or whatever you want to do to say, hey, I do not want this person to ever leave me or I do not want this person to ever fall out of love with me. If you outgrow them and you're ready to leave, that does not break the spell. They are still hooked by that spell and they will kill you before they let you get out of that spell. And if you talk to people who practice those type of things, they will tell you that is something you have to be very, very careful with. So no, I'm not going to want a man and be like, I don't want him to ever leave or I want him to really, really want me or I'm going to put, oh, I'm going to put period blood of his spaghetti or I'm going to like all types of shit, right? All these things.

And then when I grow outgrow him in five or six years or something happens and I'm ready to leave and he, because of that spell, he won't allow me to leave him. And my life is in danger. That's why you don't play with love magic. I don't believe in none of that shit. You don't think it was weird. They never did like a background check on Aladdin? That's crazy. You mean a homeless kid that was running around.

city trying to... But like, back to the... You can't make someone fall in love you. Wasn't that part of the whole thing? He couldn't wish for her to love him. I never saw him. But she would... She has to fall in love with the king, so his wish was make me a king.

Like, nobody asked what kingdom he was from. He just showed up to the castle and was like, yo, my king. Everybody's like, come on in. I got a bunch of... That was a good movie. I've never seen him. The one with Will Smith? That was good.

Well, it was a cartoon before. I know that. You think I didn't know that. Look at him. He like, so mad they're trying to blackwash a Latin. Look at him. Yeah. Black man.

Blackwash. Did it with Little Mermaid. Oh my God. You're taking everything, God damn it. There's a war on Christmas. It's a justification on Disney. Yeah, Aladdin just didn't make much sense to me. I feel like that's an easy background checking that world.

Shack was one of my favorite genies. Kazam. Yeah? Sorry to hit it. Roy, what's your favorite, like, like Disney or Disney picks up? are like animated movie like animated children's movie they make Irish ones you all get a story yet

uh if they did it's probably racist I'm sure oh no it's the one she's a it's a girl she's a ginger she is brave brave yes Irish is she Irish is she Irish she's definitely Irish she's as Irish as they get Brave is the name of it yeah

it's relatively new 2012 now you got to tomorrow yeah look this is oh I've seen this I've seen this cover but I've never watched. Yeah. She looks like, you're saying Pixar or like actual just... Like just animated...

Or cartoon. Children's movie. Land Before the Time I loved. Did the dinosaurs and shit? I don't love that movie. Littlefoot? You don't know. That's...

We're younger than... That's after your time. I saw the Land Before Time. Okay, so what about, like, Disney? Like, what about, like... Yucky? What Disney cartoon movies are there? I ain't gonna lie.

So, Prince... I want to go into, like, not just Princess movies but princess movies, right? So like, or maybe like the Lion King or... Nah, Nemo fucked me up a little bit. Really? That was the one. Oh, I love Nemo. I'm gonna keep it a hundred.

Nemo kind of choked me up a little bit when I watched Nemo. I wasn't expecting that. I was like, dude, you got the little... Oh, James and the Giant Peach. Love that one. No, you don't. Yeah. It's a great book. It's Roll Dahl, I believe. I read the book too. Oh, Flubber was great. Yo. Ball, shut up.

I admit. He read the book. James and the Giant Peach. So lie. Before the movie came out, I read it. It was like, mandatory. It was like mandatory.

It was mandatory for y'all to read James and a giant peach when y'all was in school. Oh, man. Jesus. I thought that was a skinny Tony Soprano. Did you read Dota biography of Malcolm X? Yes.

Roald Dahl also wrote Matilda. And I know why the cage birds things, I think I had to read in school. What was also the required reading in school that was the slave book? The, what was his name? I don't know.

He was a slave that escaped. and wrote the book? No. A slave book? It was required reading. I remember we had to watch. He was a slave that escaped? Yeah, he went north.

He went north. So. Yo, watch your mouth, man. I don't know. Just the fact that you're just a white man to say, yo, he went north. I don't like that. Ma, what's your favorite

Children's, like, movie? One where you were a kid and, like, one that came out recently. And Shrek doesn't count because it's for a lot. The Life in Times of Frederick Douglass. Oh, I was going to say Frederick Doug. Yeah, I was a required reading.

My favorite kid movie as a kid. What's some Charlie Chaplin. Fuck you. So, yeah, solid movie. The Goonies. The Goonies. Classic. Okay.

What about now, like, you know, that you watch with your nephew and stuff like that? I don't really have one that I watched my nephew, but my favorite, probably the Sandlot. Yeah. I'm so about animated, baby. Oh, animated. But the Goonies isn't animated either. I noticed. The both of you were someone, I both animated?

Yes. Oh, um. I didn't want to sound ignorant. I was like, I don't think the Goonies is animated. Maybe I missed it. I didn't know. I just thought there was like an older version, maybe. Um, damn.

Do they really do animated films like that for kids? Yeah. In the 80s? I don't know. Yeah. Um, I mean, when a little Murray Mae first came out, that was, that was dope. I remember that. Really?

I wasn't really big into anime. animated films like that, though. Really? I really, I like movies, even as a kid. To this day, I still watch so many animated children's movies. Like, they're like my go-to. Yeah. They're very relaxing to me.

Why is it that? That's like a girl thing, for real. Most girls I know, like, in their free time, if you are on the phone with them and ask them what they're doing, they're watching animated. Yep. Like movie. It's all love tales and shit. Not even, like Hotel Transylvania. I'll put that on in a heartbeat.

Despicable me. I saw a wild tweet a few weeks ago that asked, do you think Tarzan was fucking anything in the jungle before the people found him? Why do people minds go to that? I don't know. It wasn't my tweet. The weird thing about that film is the people that find him

are British and he has an American accent. He wouldn't speak like that. At all. At all. He was just an American white guy. So did everyone in Pocahontas. Yeah. Like, it was so historically inaccurate.

I know he was amongst the guerrillas and shit, but, like, you don't, you take after the people that teach you the language. He was like, hello. And they're all like, it was like, it doesn't make sense. The Muppets Take Manhattan was a good one. It's not really animated. I love that movie, too. The Muppets Take Manhattan.

Of course. That was my shit. Muppets take Manhattan. Big Muppets fan. Julian, what about you? You like animated movies? I like animated movies, yeah. I mean, trying to think.

What was the one about the kid with the train that you said? Did you cry? Polar Express. Polar Express. It's a great film. Up, up. He fucking cried. You didn't cry during Up?

No, I did not cry during watching Up. The fuck? No. I didn't cry. I was a grown man when it came up. That silent sequence that they show about the love you cry. Come on. I didn't see Up.

Oh, recently. Soul is great. No. Soul I like. Soul I cried. Soul I cried. Soul I cried. No, I didn't cry.

No, I didn't cry. But that was a good movie. Coco. I told you, last time I cried at one of those movies is when they jumped Raphael and Ninja Turtles. I ain't like that shit. when the footies jumped in my shit. Yeah, I wasn't feeling that. I don't want to be a social justice warrior on Twitter,

but I think I need to rewatch John Henry as an adult. Just to double check. Who do you double check? Let me know how that works out for you. Okay. Inside Out, that's a great one. I love Inside Out. They're coming out with the Toon.

Yeah, long movie, but real, really worth it. We need to remake Ratatooie with some of these rappers. Y'all don't want to see that version, huh? I'm actually going to. Show them I don't want to see rapids. Stoer, little, store a little is a rapper? Yeah, like, why y'all don't want to see that with hip hop? Like, with the rapper, that'd be rat.

Do you remember the video game, Perapper the rapper? What? No. Showing my... Per rapper? Per rapper the rapper. Never heard of it. Who the fuck is per rapper the rapper?

This kid? Yes. He said, yes. Is this like the shit? Well, I was... God knows how you know. Oh, PlayStation. Yeah.

Oh, it's a game. But it came... See, here's the thing. I never had the real game. PlayStation 1 came with like a demo disc where it had a bunch of different Oh, okay. And that was one of it

and you could just play like a quick thing. Like one stage? Yeah. I never bought the game, but I played that demo shit. Nonstop. You gotta like, yeah, you gotta wrap with your sense.

Who's an onion? An Asian onion. The guy's an Asian onion? A yellow onion. Is that racist? Look at the smell coming from his head. And like he wrapped like and you had to, it was almost like dance, dance revolution before that.

You had to keep up with his karate moves and they were rapping them. And this is how you fell in love with hip-hop. I liked hip-hop already. We liked this game because it was like, oh, it's a rapper game. And then we clicked the demo and it wasn't. Yeah, no, I wasn't really up to our liking. I was playing too. I was already listening to Beware of the Dog when this came up.

Yeah, shout out to Bella. Yeah, that's it. You're flat. I used to love it. Built like Taylor Swift. Yeah, I've never played this. That's fucking hilarious. Yeah, any, like,

Crash Bandicoot and shit at this time. Yeah, Spiro. Spiro was so fucking good. My older cousin. Did you beat or something? Like, geez. Firo was so good. Let him have a spiral moment.

Okay, no. You got the conversation with Vice City. That GTA, Vice City is the best game ever. Yeah, good times. It's how you learn to kill hookers. All right. Well, did we help Damien with his, um, did we give him advice?

Slow game. Slow game? Yes. Listen, Damien, you heard what I said. Play slow if you want. You slow, you blow. Yo, you should have just, I just started talking to my ex again and you just.

Damien, be yourself. Don't, if you're not an, like, assertive dude, don't go in there being assertive because you won't be able to keep it up. Don't change you. If you ain't assertive, you better become assertive. Oh, see. Yeah, I'm a little hurt that you guys didn't like my mixtape idea. No one's not hurt.

Right, what? It's just pretty sure. Remember high school? Like, that if he bags her and like after like maybe like their fifth date then he can do that but like she like him yet get on the ox if you're at a function or something or if you're chilling at the crib and play something you might think she's like oh what's this be that guy don't like put it in her face like hey cd okay but saying yo remember when we used to fuck is better

they're both awful there's no better you remember james and the giant peach yeah that'll get her Amy, you heard what I said, man. Be assertive. Be confident. But also, you know, have fun. Get a book of match. Don't be so serious. Call back and tell us whose advice you took. Keep us updated. Don't call back if you ain't take mine because I know the outcome. She got a man. Before we leave, I guess we have to congratulate Burner Boy for being the first African-born

artist to perform at the Grammys. Shout out the Burner Boy. I think, congrats. I also think that's crazy. This is the first one in 2024. Insane. do we want to discuss Chappelle and Cat Williams and you guys want to save that?

I'm kind of Cat Williams out. Dave Chappelle was on stage over the weekend and just made some statements. I just want to let people know we're talking about and then we can move on. No, it's not that. It's that you said, do you want to talk about it? No.

I was just going to explain what we were talking about and then move on. It's like, shut the fuck up. I'm going to talk about this shit. I'm going to get my shit. I'm good. So anyway, Dave Chappelle. Get your shit off, bro.

We got it, man. I wasn't going to do a deep dive into it, but I was going to let people know what we were talking about and say maybe we get to it some other time. He made some points. He was on stage saying, I mean, why didn't talk about other white comics? And why are you trying to make us look bad?

No, I get it. But see, this is the thing that I was kind of, you know, when that whole thing happened, I knew that this was going to parlay into a lot of other conversations amongst comics. And I just, Dave Chappelle is right. He made some points in what he said. But I think people are also forgetting that, you know, maybe Kat is just speaking from more so his experience in comedy.

Maybe he didn't experience a lot of the white comedic circles and things like that. He's only talking about his circles on the come up in comedy and things that he saw. So, I mean, maybe he couldn't go up there and talk about white comics because he wasn't in no circles. And if I'm not mistaken, wasn't Kat replying to people who had came on. club shay-shay and said shit about him that was one of the other things too he was responding to things that said on that platform about him so that's what i'm just saying but now it's turning into you know cat is you know he caused you know just turmoil and friction amongst black comics and things like that and now it's turning into something else you know i mean it's just like i get it you know

like i said we said when this shit first spoke about it i believe a lot of things that cat said and i believe that a lot of things he said on there were just entertainment and just you know embellishing certain things and things like that. But now it's just, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, I, fam, like, I, I, I get it. A lot of comics are just looking at cat, like, yo, you just causing some shit that just didn't need to happen amongst black comedians, but, I mean, he was responding to his name being spoken about on, on a platform.

He was telling his version of things in his, and his, and his comedic, uh, journey. Some of it true. Some of it, you know, again, you know, again, just, just, his point of view maybe but either way may great comic obviously Dave Chappelle iconic comic

legend both legends to me I think Cat Williams is a comedic legend as well so yeah man let's just leave it at that man I don't want to I don't want this to turn into something I was in I saw Marlon Wayne's addressing like you know the fact that they talking about people when black men that wear dresses

in film and Marlon was saying how you know they did white chicks and that's a a classic movie, which he's right about that. But it's okay if Robin Williams gets an Oscar for wearing a dress as Mrs. Doubtfire. It's an iconic role, an iconic movie because he's a white man. But if a black man does it, it has another meaning or it's selling your soul. So, I mean, it's just going a whole bunch of different ways.

I don't think it needs to go. But I ain't wearing no dress. I know that. That's why I wanted you to talk about it because it's not my place to speak. I just thought it was an interesting back and forth. Yeah, it is. But I just, I'm just, I just, I just, I just, I just know how this shit can, it could, this can go turn into something else.

And it's just like, you know, I don't even want to get that shit, no gas. Yeah, get it. Kat said what he said. Classic viral episode, a bunch of viral clips from his sit down with Shannon Sharp, um, entertaining. Because at the end of the day, all of this shit is entertainment. So, you know, I don't think we need to turn it into something else. than it just being entertainment.

I don't think that anything he said on there will affect anybody's pockets, honestly. I don't think so either. And I would like to hear the cat rant after the SNL bit that happened over the weekend. That was dope. That was good. It was funny.

Yeah, that was funny. Yeah, entertainment, man. Just keep it entertainment. Let's have fun. Let's laugh. Let's respect each other. Let's love each other. Let's keep, you know, keep entertaining

and keep some integrity to it at the same time. Yeah. Well, this has been a nice. episode, another journey. Good episode. Yeah, we'll see you guys in a few days. See you on a few days. Be safe. Stay warm. It's cold as shit in New York City.

I don't know where y'all at, but it's cold as shit out here. I'm that nigga. He's just ginger. Peace. This is an I-Heart podcast. Guaranteed human.