New Rory & MAL - Episode 238 | Meg Still Needs To Respond

Episode Date: January 30, 2024

We’re calling an intervention for our dear friend and Barb, Mal (0:00). Today it’s him v.s. the room. First we provide context to the Meg & Nicki beef (04:52) . We dissect everyone Meg dissed on “Hiss” and went through Nicki’s “Big Foot” lyrics. We express concern for Nicki’s health and how she’s positioned herself in Hip-Hop (24:47). Does Meg owe us a response record (39:10) ? We reminisce on Drake v.s. Meek/Pusha as a blueprint on how this should be played out. Rory takes us back to the weekend with recapping Amara’s first birthday (53:00) . At the party Rory played some questionable music and dirty macked his friend (1:04:50). Has the clock started on Ice Spice (1:22:21) ? We cover her latest single and offer a comparison to Sexxy Red. It’s time for voicemails - (TW: Statutory R*pe) (1:34:22). Then we discuss Griselda on Netflix which leads to a discussion about the best drug dealers ( 1:51:06) . Mal asks us a quesiton about money/religion that spirals into a wild conversion that carries us through the end of the episode (2:11:50). Tune in as the guys discuss all of this + more!Follow The Team:Rory - https://www.instagram.com/thisisrory/Mal - https://www.instagram.com/mal_bytheway/Julian - https://www.instagram.com/julian__nicholas/Demaris - https://www.instagram.com/demarisagiscombe/Merch: https://newrorynmal.com/Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/newrorynmalYouTube Subscribe: https://rb.gy/hk7up Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoicesSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

This is an I-Heart podcast. Guaranteed human. You got to take your nuts, Rory, and swing the motherfuckers around your living room sometimes with no drawers on. That's what you got to do. Let them know, listen, I got two big spaldings under these motherfucking boxes,

and I'm not talking about this today. My friend fucked your girl because that's what two adults wanted to do. No, Rory and now. That's why I fucked your bitch, you fat motherfucker. West side. You can't believe you showed your face today.

Yo, listen, man, I'm always show my face, you heard. I said, no, it's in the Bronx in the 90s, nigga. It's just, it's maybe a rough day for a certain group of, of stands. I applaud you for coming outside. Hold on, man, because I see what today, Grady to B. Hold on. It's you versus the room, you know.

Yeah, 100%. Yeah. All right, what's up, man? How are y'all doing? How are y'all feeling? How was y'all weekend, man? Fuck that. We're going to skip talking about my daughter's first birthday just to have an intervention with you.

Okay, let's do it. What are we intervening about? Tell us. You're supposed to lead with love in these types of things. You're not supposed to attack. We're supposed to talk about how your behavior has affected us. How my behavior? Your behavior as a barb has never affected me until this weekend.

Okay. It's a tough day to be affiliated, is all I'm saying. And I want to stand with you. And I want to see you healed and I want to see you better. Okay. but today we have to have to have to have a real conversation. Oh, let's do it. I'm here to have a conversation, man.

You got a man, everybody got a little smiles on it, Julian, got that little stupid smile on his face. You know what I mean? Damaris came and clapping her hands. That's not what happened. She got extra lip glow. Nah, she got extra lip gloss on today, which means she planned on talking more. You got in my face.

I'm on some, what's up? What's up? What's up? Maris, we need to be kind. This is an intervention. It's an intervention. Yomi has been laughing at me all day. She ain't saying that.

She just keep looking at me laughing. I haven't seen Yomi's teeth in three months. She's just laughing at. I don't know what the fuck is going on. Look at that smile on her face. Even Rell laughed at me when I walked in. Like, what's up, man? Like, what the fuck is going on today?

Like, what's going on? What's up? There was whispers and rumblings. We were talking shit behind your back. I know. I know. It felt like when I walked in it. I'm like, oh, okay.

I got real quiet. Yeah, everybody's all of a sudden. Julie starts wiping shit that doesn't need to be wiped off. I'm like, all right, man. I'm like, all right. I'm like, all right. What's so with you out of day? Listen, I understand where you're at right now.

You guys are coming off a crazy high. Nikki put out a very successful and great album a month ago. That's right. You guys, I understand we're at your peak. Your Studio 54 type cocaine. You guys were living. First shot. See?

No. That's not even... That's not even where I was going, actually. Let's go. I was just trying to pick of the high. highest peak. No, it's the purest now, yeah. I also believe Nikki when she says that she didn't do coke. I don't know about other drugs, but anyways, I get it. You guys are riding high. Thought anything was possible. You were invincible. Nikki's 20 years in her career. That album's probably

fucking about to be platinum. It was good. She outsold all the other girls. She's the greatest female rapper that's ever existed. You should have started with that. You guys had got a little too cocky over the weekends. Okay. What do you think of Bigfoot? The Acapella version. Well, I did listen to the Acapella version first. Just because I wanted to focus on the ball.

You know, sometimes we get lost in the music, the beat, the beat, be hard. You wouldn't got lost in that. I wanted to hear every bar. I wanted to hear every word, every shot. No, but I wanted to hear that. Once I saw Acapella, I said, okay, let me start with this. So I started with that. But the only thing with the acapella, right,

is that you hear the ads is where the ad lives. So I'm like, all right, I need to beep because I need to hit a flow. So I got halfway through the aquella and I'm like, you couldn't catch the flow on the aquaella? I thought I did, but then some of the ads came in and it kind of like threw my bop off a little bit. So I'm like, let me hit a beat. Well, then let me ask, did you catch the flow on the instrumental version?

Well, I didn't hit the instrumental version. I didn't hear the instrumental version. I went straight to the song after the Acapella, right? But I was lost in all of this because I haven't been paying attention. We all were. I haven't been paying attention. I don't know like what the fuck was going on. I opened Instagram like over the weekend and just saw like shit on the internet.

And then I was like, I like, I, Nikki and Meg are beefing, apparently. Now, I just saw, hold on, I just saw, I don't know if you was playing a video or Julian was playing. I just saw the, what's the name of the Meg record? Hiss. Hiss. Well, let's start there. Okay, so let's start there. Let's get some order here.

Yeah. Really good song. Great video. The visuals is amazing. Meg looks great. The video was shot really well. I like the whole play on the Tina Snow shit. You know, as we know, that's like her alter ego.

So the video looked great. The song was good. She sounds like she's addressing multiple things. She's been keeping a mental rolodex of people saying her name. and people, you know, having their opinions about her online. And she used this hiss is what it's called. Hiss, yes. She used this Hiss record to address everybody that she felt like, you know,

has been just saying little slick shit about her and coming at her sideways. So she did a good job with that. So shout out to me because that's a really good song. And the video is great. She looks good. So she put out a snippet. I want to say, what was it, last Wednesday, which is the intro to Hiss of her saying, like, I'm tired of you host.

I'm airing everything out. And I texted Demaris because I know she is a, what are the stallions? Like, what do y'all call? The stallions. They're actually called the Hotties.

The Hotties. I know Demaris is a hottie. She's a hottie. I'm a barb too, though. Wait, hold on. And she's Barty Gang. So you, yeah, because you. But hangs out with Crips.

You Barty Gang. Is that what the Cardi's Hive? Barty Gang? Mm-hmm. That's the name of a hive? Yes. Okay, so Barty Gang. Mm-hmm.

Which is crazy that a stands could be. labeled after a gang. You're, you're, uh, ha haiti. Yes. And your barb. Yes. That's transloyal. Okay.

Uh, because I like music. I'm not, I don't, I don't know these people and none of these people know me in real life. So, yeah, I listen to all of their music. I'm fans of all of their music. Yeah. When it comes to the stand. Same. I'm with you on that, but I just, I didn't know that you could, you could flag where every flag though.

Yeah. You could like, you could like the music. I'm not a loser on the fucking internet. But you flag for all three of the. the top female record for women empowerment. And I hold them all accountable. Except ice spice. She doesn't like ice spice.

What are they? What are they? The munchkins. The munchkins. She's probably the hardest. That's a cool name. You like the munchkins. Bitches is quick, but I'm quicker.

Bitches is thick, but I'm thicker. Who said that? Biches is rich, but I'm rich. That's a bar ice spice? That's a bar ice mace. That fart record is hard. No, it's not. It's not.

We're going to get to everything. I promise if there'll be some structure in this episode. Yeah, no. Just so much craziness happened over the weekend. I need to gather my fucking thoughts. And I'm doing that more than 24. Soon as somebody says something and it's false, I'm saying this fault. All right, give you a buck.

That, uh, Bigfoot. I don't like it. It's awful. Yeah, I don't like that record. Well, I want to start at his first. Let's let's start at Friday. Okay. Hit Demaris, I said, all right, with this little snippet she put out,

she better be airing everyone out. Because I'm tired of Meg always saying she's going to shoot and then, you know, you get a, just a song. Mm-hmm. I have mixed feelings. I think she did a great job. I would have preferred a little bit more of direct shots. If you're going to do that snippet,

no, no, no, no, no. The reason why I don't mind the not so direct shots, because in a way, that is an art too. Like designing bars where it's like, nah, I'm not going to just say the name because, you know, that'd be too much. That's giving somebody way too much attention and way too much in my platform.

Those who I'm coming at, they know exactly what lines is tailored and suits them. See, I agree. Hove did that very well, but don't have the rollout in snippet that you post is saying, I'm getting all this shit off my chest and airing everybody up. She didn't say, I was naming names. She didn't say, I got everybody's name in my verse.

No, I like this type of shit. This is the art form of, you know, hip hop, rap, coming at your, you know, your ops in the way and addressing shit. But like, I'm not saying your name because then that's giving you way too much light. Like, I'm not doing that. But trust and believe, everybody,

she's going out on this record, oh, they know what bars for them. Everybody knows what bar. And let's talk about, let's talk about the dishes. Let's talk about the dishes. So I can count a couple people who I believe that it's too. Uh-oh. Demaris did her homework.

She couldn't wait to get this off. Go ahead. Oh, no. It's because, you know, it's just a couple, a couple of them. So a lot of what Meg talked about in this song was everybody talking about my pussy. Niggas always name dropping. They need to get in the headline.

They got a name drop that they fucked me basically, right? And it's just like. Which is corny as fuck. That's mad corny. Like it's like it's like it's. You can agree to that. Real niggas can agree to that. That's corny.

It's very corny. Also, all those guys are in the headlines already. But I guess I feel you. The baby was not in the headline when he dropped that he fucked back. He was actually. Oh, I've been on record. I thought that was. super corny out of nowhere when he was just like, yeah, no, I fuck too.

I thought it was crazy. Well, the baby was trying to crawl out of a hole. Yeah. He had dug himself into the LGBT Q pits of hell. And he was trying to climb my body. No, I fucked her. Look at the, look at the strategy. It was like, whoa, whoa.

CBTK pits of hell. Whoa. It's fucking hilarious. Yeah, they had the baby out of here. That nigga was performing at a comedy show at the Barclays. I was like, damn. But it's still corny when you just dropped. and be like, I fucked Megan.

Yeah, like that was cool, right? Yeah, that was crazy. You guys like her, right? Yeah, I should have. I was crazy. So, all right, so I'm just, I think a lot of that first verse is to her ex-boyfriend, but we ain't even got to address party.

So the first- Wait, why are we not addressing party? See, I don't like that. Why? Because she sent a shot at him, he replied, and she's entitled to reply as well, so why are we not talking about it? Yeah.

I actually think party gave her the excuse to start shooting at everyone else. If party doesn't do that, rollout thing, I don't think we get this record or even get to this Nikki Minaj beef. Party is the central person of this entire thing. Yeah. Because if she just came out the gate and started making R. Kelly jokes about Nikki, it would have been like super left field.

Like you're just saying shit now. No, not exactly. Party gave you an excuse to get everything you wanted to say off your chest. Nikki has been shooting at her for over a year. I agree. But just quietly. See, the things I don't keep up with. I don't keep up with how long the shot's been going.

It's been going for a while. I can't keep up with that shit. Like, it's just too much music. It's too much shit going on to be like, yo, yeah, nah. 10 months ago she threw a shot on this record. It's like, I can't. Yeah. Sub and her calling her alcoholic saying she don't fuck with horses since Christopher Reeves.

Say, bitch stay and your Torey lanes. I'm not a biggie. that is an insane bar that's one of the best this bar is if if meg was more well liked at the moment that's up there with

is that your tour or your girl's door that is like that bar is fucking yeah very simple straight to the point and effective as fuck it's up there ma' do you know what megan's laws

I know do I know yes I know Megan's law but I don't know if that bar is that hard to me though like I don't I don't it's a good bar but the way y'all talking about it. I'm like, okay. And especially because

our name obviously is Megan, so it fits. But it's just like, I don't think that's a crazy bar. It's a good bar. But the way y'all are talking, like, I don't think that... That shit cuts deep. It cuts deep. That's why she's spiraling out of control like this. That, I think of this whole... It's a good bar, though. I just, the way y'all talking about is kind of like...

I think of this whole song, that's the line that probably led her to snap. Well, I'm saying, like, at the end day, like... But, you know, like, this... that's why I fucked your bitch. Is that your tour or your girls' tour? Like, the effective disc records are simple lines like that.

Bro, and that's not simple. Like, is that your girls' tour? That's fun, but that's within music. We're talking about sexual offender. You're a legally registered sex offender. That cuts on a whole other level. Your brother and your husband. Your brother and your husband.

No, it definitely is tailored for directly at Nick. We know that. But I'm just saying just the bar is just not like, I don't think the bar was crazy, but because it's relevant and obviously it suits what she's talking about and who she's addressing, then yes, it lands.

It definitely was a punch that landed, for sure. I just don't think it's an insane bar. If you're not aware of what Megan's law is, Megan's law is the law that got passed that made people had to register as sex offenders. And if you don't know what Megan's law is, then you shouldn't be listening to this record. There was also another line that was for Nikki

toward the end of the song, that just was Bad Bitch in the Walls, bend in which everybody's been on nicky's ass lately because a lot of her videos she's been caught with like when you're photoshopping things the walls are moving to like videos yes you can do it in videos like on iG you don't like filters on videos i um IG and like just regular shit that's that's the part of this shit that i can't i can't jump into like when people start saying yeah not a walls it's like all right fam i'm i don't i'm not subscribing to that but this is the women defense. So it's going to be shit and I'm just not supposed to know. That's why like that's the

angle with this for Megan is who cares about her body and all that this just hammer the sex offender part of things, bro. That's the golden ticket. Nothing she says about your body, your boobs, your ass is fake. Who gives a fuck? They all get surgery. Sex offender. That's the, that's the kill. Just hammer that. Well, let's, um, let's, so we're going to go back to Nikki. There's more. Oh, I wanted to get to the Drake. This is on his. I'm here. The one that they are saying, the one that they are saying is for Drake is all these little rap niggas so fraud.

Xanax be their hardest bars. These niggas hate on BBLs and be walking around with the same scars. That's a bar. Real curvy, no edges. Yeah, real curvy, no edge. Here's the thing. Well, the Xanax is because Drake's a half of Zan.

I was out like a life. So obviously Drake is alluding to the fact that he takes Xanax, right? So obviously this was tailored for. Yes. As well as, hold on. There's more. I don't care if Drake does Zanz.

She's saying he has a BBL. No, I'm just saying that whole His thing. The record. They've been saying that for a while, as well as cosplay gangsters, fake-ass accents posted in another niggerhood like a bad bitch.

That's such a good line. She went kind of fucking crazy. And this is warranted, though. That is a great line. Because I thought that Drake's shooting at her on Circle Loco. Yeah. was horny.

Like, why did you even say that about Meg? She's completely warranted to say all this shit. Oh, no. And there's been plenty of rumors that Drake has had LIPO and has had his stomach sculpted and everything. Yeah, why are you talking about me? Shut up. Is it a fact that Drake has-

You have the same scars as the rest of these chicks? Shut up. But is that a fact? It's a very, a lot of people have said that. I don't know if it's true or not, but too many people have said it. I just feel like if it was true, we would know it was like definitively true by now. How would you know it was definitively true unless you use? Yomi says you can tell. How? You could tell

I mean, I've never looked at. She said he got a BBL belly bun. That's what Yomi said. His nipples are cross-eyed? Male lipo? So yeah, he's been accused to have a male lipo and ab sketching. I could, I mean, I'm not trying to put this on a jacket, but if you look at the photos, you kind of. Do we have the photos? Honestly, I've never looked at Drake's. You want me to pull up Drake's naked body for you to look at?

See, see how people want to get cursed out that fast in 2024? Did I say pull up a naked picture of Drake? If he don't have a shirt on, he's naked. You're right. I'm just saying. No, no, no, you want to look at his stomach. Go ahead. I see what you're saying.

Go ahead. Okay, so this is. He's been maintaining it. So this is an alleged male's throat. He's been maintaining. A male lipo stomach. With ab etching, yes. With ab etching.

Ab etching is hilarious. I mean, I guess if you're going to do it, just get it. He's also Drake and like a pop star. I get it. I know someone who got it and it looks at him. That's nuts. Yeah. Maybe he just loves the gym.

Listen, I don't, listen. Okay. Well, score two for Meg. I mean. Do you think Drake was teased as a kid for his curves? and now he's finally just embracing them. He just finally, like, loved himself. I just think, like, if you're the biggest recording artist in the world,

I don't think you give a fuck with nobody saying to watch your stomach. Like, I'm not laying on the operating table. Like, if I'm the biggest... And... So what, I'm fat. Okay, and... I mean, Kanye admitted he got lipo. But Kanye is a different case.

Kaye, admitted he got lipo. I didn't know that. He was screaming at Vann at TMZ. A man getting lipo is fucking insane. Let's just put that out there. That happens a lot more anything. That's fucking insane. He screamed at the TMZ office. You guys called me fat so I had to get LIPO.

It's your fault. Yo, a Megan LIPO is fucking insane. That's not insane to y'all? For health reasons, Megan. Yeah, I think it happens a lot more anything. That's it. All right. Don't do that.

Don't do that because your family was working with somebody that was the first person that we knew. Got it. Who are you talking about? bleep this what that got to do with yeah I was hanging out with with the lipo man himself okay that's still crazy

what does that what does that have to do God didn't say nothing to him that's no I didn't know that that's what he had I didn't know that I'm just saying he got cancer no I didn't know he dropped like 300 pounds in a day are you good but that's but see Rory just talking

that's not always lipo though like you can if you're like really overweight you can get like that lap man stomach surgery yeah I've been thinking You just get your stomach tied up and you can't eat. Oh, yeah. Didn't Al Roker have that?

I think he did. He did. Diabetes. Al Roker has diabetes, I think. Check that. I mean, probably. I'm going to put that out there.

I'm just put that on his jacket. But I think so I think Al Roker has health issues. But, um, but yeah, back to the men getting BBLs is crazy. So Lance, score two for Meg. Because if you got a BBL, I think every female rapper should be able to put you in a bar. Because it's just like, niggas don't, when you got money, who cares if like, you know, women don't care if you. fat if you got money?

You know what? Who gives a fuck? I mean, if you're a pop star, I do see the value. Man, workout. Work out. You can hire a chef. You could hire a nutritionist. You could hire a trainer.

Like, what happened to that as men? Like, why don't the niggas ain't doing that? Like, laying on the stomach, laying on the table and getting surgery in your stomach is insane as a man. That's fucking crazy. That would take a year. I could just go for three hours and lay down for a second. Yeah, but then that.

you got rap chicks putting you in bars and shit like that. See what I'm saying? See, that's my thing. I'm always thinking about the back nine, not the front nine. You got a life is a golf course. The back nine is what I'm worried about. See? Like, yeah, cool. I'm going to get this surgery and my shit going to be etched up. I know all that. But then soon as one of these rap chicks start talking greasy about me, when I'm going to be able to say. I can't say nothing. I mean, I think it's fine. I just wonder like at holidays what happens amongst family. like Tory Lane's admitted he had fake hair, Drake with the LIPO thing. I wouldn't,

I'd come on a pod and be like, yo, I got fake hair. Listen. At Christmas time, I just wouldn't know what I would do with my family if I walked in with abs.

See, that's the problem. See, that's the problem. A lot of these niggas don't have funny uncles. Like, I would get smoked.

When you got funny uncles and funny cousins, it's certain shit you're just not doing in life. Like, because you know you're going to have to hear it. Like, I'm not doing that. Like, as a man, yo,

if you're rich and successful, don't lay on no, table and get no fucking, what is it called? Cosmetic Surgery? Is that considered, I'm not getting no. Teeth, okay. Hair. Listen, we all got insecurities.

Everybody on this planet. I understand it. I'm just saying as a man, if you're wealthy, successful, you have access to anything you want, I think laying on a table and getting cosmetic surgery for any man, not Drake aside because I don't know, they saying Drake had it. I don't, I can't know what a man, BBL is. But Drake aside, any man. Any man.

lays on a table and has cosmetic surgery because they don't like their pudge, you're fucking insane, bro. Like, especially if you say, you want to say they're insane. There's not another word for it. Well, the question I was going to ask is, if you showed up to the holiday with abs and you didn't have them the day before, what do you think your brothers would say to you? I would never do that. That's why I could never do that.

Three letter word. See, you don't have, you got to have funny family members because you just know, it's certain shit you're going to think about like, man, if I don't, do this, they're going to kill me. I thought about that. When I wore a fake, to Thanksgiving one year, I wore a fake mold.

I was like doing something with my makeup. Never again. Never. Yeah, like you kids. If I came in with a BBO, I would, could care less about our listeners.

I would look here and own it. I have no idea how I could face my family. That would be the only thing that would stop me. As a man. How the fuck could I walk in Thanksgiving with a new hairline and I didn't have it yesterday?

Yeah, not. Because there's an F word that would be used throughout the entire day. As a man, the only thing worse than getting a BBL is wearing fake jewelry. It's the only thing worse than a BBL as a man. Oh my God.

I don't know because you can, the jewelry. No, you pay real money for that fake jewelry though. No. So how did they get the fake jewelry? No, I mean, you pay money for it, but it's not like. Yeah, but you paid real money for something that's fake. A lot of people do that. That's insane.

That's the only thing to me that's worse than a man laying on the table and saying, hey, Doc, suck this fat out of my stuff. No, but the jewelry you can take off. Like that's not a part of you forever. Yeah, and you can also gain that weight back in your stomach, too. What are you talking about? No, not if you hit the table. Transfer it somewhere else again.

That's insane. Now, that's a whole other level. Story for the next winter. But anyway, okay, Meg landed. I don't even know. Meg drops her disc at 12 o'clock. At 12.24, Nikki is on live previewing one of the lines from what became the big foot disc.

The line that she was previewing was bad bitchy like six foot. I call it Bigfoot. The bitch fell off. I told her get up on her good foot, right? She's playing this over and over and over again. So everybody's like, okay, a Meg, this is coming. She's making fun of Meg. Do you rap like, as you bumbee or as you pimsy,

like making fun of the way that she raps? Which is another thing. People are saying, okay, Nikki, not everybody wants to rap like a New York rapper. You're disrespecting Darry South Legends in the way that Megan wraps like these people. Yes, she does.

She wraps like Bumby and Pemcy that she's from Texas. Like, that's her flow. She's like, bitch, you only got one flow. She's saying Meg doesn't rap on beat. I don't think that that's true. I think Meg wraps on beat, but I don't know. Y'all will say that I'm biased. But she was just going off, going on a rant for hours or whatever,

dissing her on the internet, typing all types of shit, saying, oh, your boyfriend came out and exposed you say you was lying on your mother. You were a horrible person. All of this shit. So all of these things she was saying for like 48 hours. This is with female rap. This is what female rap is dangerous. The PC version of that entire thing.

Let's get back to this intervention. Nikki spiraled out this entire fucking week. She was going nuts on live. I was actually concerned. She had the pack delivered. Like it was, and I'm not going to say she's on drugs. She's talked about her drug addiction,

which we have been very nice about in understanding, and I've loved for her to talk about it. But one could come to the conclusion that she was spiraling out over the weekend with possible drugs involved, because I've never seen any artist do what she did here. You spent three days on IG Live

saying the same bars that ended up on one of the worst disc records I've ever heard in my life. You were tweeting the lyrics all weekend and didn't give us one new lyric. Whoever mixed this, please take ProTools away

from any human being that recorded that. Oh, it's very bad. I couldn't hear a word of it. It's awful. It's bad. It's just crazy how things can shift so much because I was sitting in the same seat

talking about Nikki's last album and that's how our veterans should age this to me you went how old are you? The whole legacy shifted in two weeks to me like

Nikki in my opinion gave a masterclass of how to age with this last album still do relevant shit with the kids talk about being a mother do some pussy raps as well perfect fucking addressed all her fan bases

Yes. What the fuck was this? For three days, you're talking about the worst disc record we've ever heard. Well, this is the problem that I've always had with, when you become, when you reach a certain level of success, I just think that it's certain shit that you just cannot do anymore. It's certain things you cannot address. It's certain ways you can't. And that just comes with being the top dog, which y'all know how I feel. Nikki is still the top dog.

She's still the top female. MC top female rapper. So when you are that, it's certain things that you just cannot do. You can't spend hours or days on, to me, again, I don't, Nikki is Nikki, she's successful, she is who she is. I'm just saying me, if I'm the top dog,

I'm not spending hours on social media addressing another artist. I'm not spending hours tweeting about other artists. like I'm just not doing that because you just it's like I'm in a whole other category I'm in a whole another league all of you girls all you women are chasing what I've done what I've did and where I am so I just think that that's just one of the things that you can't do when you're top dog you can't you can't you can't jump in the mud every time you just can't you can't you got to let them know like you or you can't reach me like I'm on a whole different thing I'm in different rooms I'm

I'm just doing different things. Cool. We can keep it rat. If Nikki wanted to just drop a record responding, that's part of the culture. Cool, I'm with that. But the other shit, the extra shit is where I'm like, that's where Nikki is going to lose because you're on a different level.

You can never play that game with these artists because you're the queen MC. So it's like they can't throw shots at you and expect you to come down here and getting the mud with them and wrestle and play their game and then you're going to go back and sit on the throne with mud on your dress? Nah, you're supposed to stay there, sit pretty, throw your shots, put the record out. But the other shit to me is where it's like,

nah, let's not do that. Let's just give them records. Let's dress them in these bars, kill them in these bars and go back to doing what we're doing. But even before that, you shouldn't, sorry to cut you off for you. Even before that, you shouldn't be shooting at these girls. You're shooting at these young girls

and shooting at these young girls and expecting them. not to say anything because I agree with that too. When she was shooting out of shots at Meg, Meg was actually going through that trial. So you shooting at Meg, Meg's not active on social media.

She's not actively like really putting music out outside of trying to get out of her contract. And you just shooting and shooting and shooting. And then it's like, I come and I say two bars and you flip, you spiral. But this is what I'm saying. So again, when you're at that level

that she's at, when you're top dog, it's certain things that you just, just can't entertain and can't do. She's been doing that her whole career even when she was starting to get to legend status. She was still. But on the incline, I heard a voicemail of her in Lotto. Like, she's been doing this forever. Right.

But on your incline, on your way up, cool, you can play that game. But when you're, when it's, because I think everyone can agree, Nikki is the top dog. Yeah. When you're that, when it's like solidified that this is your crown, this is your throne, you can't play them games you was playing on the come up. Yeah, but I think you're asking for someone to not be who they are. She likes, that's how she operates.

And also, well, let me give her some. Top dog. Yeah, but that's fine. So certain things that you have to let go of. But she's not, you, I've been begging for her week. I think we all have been begging for Nikki to act like Beyonce for years. Why don't address nobody? Maybe not act like you better.

But just act like, yo, I don't, I can't hear y'all. Yeah, exactly. When I say act like Beyonce, that's what I mean. You don't hear Beyonce talk, right, until it's time to just address music or something. Like, you don't have to. dress a rumor. You don't have to shoot back at who's shooting at you. Just you've earned your spot as the top dog as this queen when it comes to rap. Just sit there and ignore everything. Ignore all the peasants below you. Even on top of that to add to it. And I don't know people's personal life,

but I think sometimes it's good when you act like you're better than people. When you've earned the right to act like you're better than people, hold yourself to that standard because you know what it does. It keeps you from marrying people who tarnish your legacy. There's plenty of artists who have come out and realize that the people that you decide to attach yourself to romantically can be your downfall because you love this person so much and anybody coming at them or criticizing them or anything causes you to crash out. But if that's the case, you don't go and marry somebody who does have to register under Megan's law on the sex offender list. You don't do that. When you hold yourself to a higher standard that you've earned because you are that good, you don't marry that person.

And then if you do, you don't get upset with someone. When you shooting at somebody and shooting at somebody, and then they say, oh, shorty, come on now. You don't make a diss saying, why are you humping on underage? Why are you humping on a minor? And then everybody, like, me, humping on a minor? No, your brother was humping on a minor. Your husband was humping on a minor.

You was rapping by a humping on a minor. All right, so let's get the facts of this whole, you know, the, what the Megan's Law thing is, what Nikki's husband was found guilty of, what he'd serve time for, because a lot of people don't know. I honestly still don't even know exactly what happened with that entire case. Well, he was convicted and did four and a half years for rape for a 16-year-old.

He was 16 at the time as well, saying that he raped her with at night point. Wraped a young woman at knife point, did four and a half years, and now has to register as a sex offender after his release. And that's just one, it was two cases, right? One case. It was just one case? Yes, one case. The victim also sued both of them saying that they were harassing her to recant her statement. And this was recently, this was, because obviously this happened.

In the past like three years, I think it was like 2019. This was like 25 years ago, something like that, right? Yes. Okay. It's happening in 94. Yes. Okay. Okay.

I see what you're saying to Madison. I think the narrative that the Barbes are trying to say now is, is Nikki not allowed to defend herself? Everyone bullies Nikki. and then when she starts, everyone calls her the bully. I think what the barbers are missing is no one's mad at Nikki replying. We're mad that it's bad. Listen, that Megan Law's bars fire. And I think Nikki has every right to reply and defend herself and defend her husband,

defend her family. 100%. To what she said, you brought families into it. I actually think in battle rap rules, it's totally fine for Nikki to talk about Megan's. dead mother. This is battle. Like, this is just how this shit goes. We can't start moving the goalposts for stuff. Right. All of that is fair game once you bring

families into it. Our issue, Barbes, is not that. We want Nikki to defend herself. I always want Nikki to reply in reps. It's just bad. This was just awful. Like, that's what I really think that community is failing to understand. We all love Nikki. And she has every right to reply. Defend her husband. No matter what the case is, this background.

It's just ass. Like it just was not fucking good. Yeah. It was a terrible rollout. Like you tweeted all the bars before we even, I was glued to my phone for this back and forth. Because I think a Nikki and Meg back and forth would be great because I think they're both really good rappers.

This is definitely. And Megan's first joint was great. So when Nikki was, you know, I laughed a little bit too with the good foot and the big foot and all that shit. every sort of good bar that even exists in Bigfoot, she tweeted two days prior or was on live saying it over and over and over and over again

just rambling. Like we heard it all. We didn't need the disc record. We have the IG live of you saying everything. It's just a bad disc record. Is it really, when it comes to disses, I don't feel like you really hurt somebody when you're like naming all the people they fucked.

Like, Megan don't do nothing but rap about her pussy how good it is and how she don't get fuck about niggins. So rapping and calling her a whore and a hoochie is like, okay, I rap about being a whore and a hoochie. You're not really hitting, like you're not hitting no extra. You saying I was lying on my dead mother. You got that from parties this. So you harmonized that lying on your dead, mama,

lying on your dad, mama. It's just like, it's very remedial and it's just like so beneath what we deem to be her talent level. Are you saying what I'm saying? It's just like, Nikki, we hold you with such a high regard. Like, if you're going to start some shit, make sure you finish. shit strong. We're rooting for you. I wanted Nick's shit to be fire. Like, I love this rap

shit and I'm a Nicki fan. I wanted it to be fire. It just wasn't. It just seemed like you got hurt. She hit a sore spot and you just hurry up and react it. It sounds like a reaction. It doesn't sound like a disrecord. It sounds like a reaction. Here's the thing. Had she really done the immediate reaction like the next day with

this awful disc record, I would have given her more bail. For three fucking days, you were just constantly telling us about this disc record and what's happening and what's going on just to give us this this piece of shit record. Yeah.

I could kind of understand the human aspect of wanting to crash out when someone says something about your partner and like maybe not putting out your best effort immediately. She sat and just kept telling us about this song. She did have some time. Three days.

The thing about battle rap. Right. And I think this is obviously coming from hip hop culture. This is part of the culture of hip hop. Battle rap is a part of it. I think it's dope as long as it stays on wax. As long as it stays just music, I think it's entertaining.

I think we can get some classic bars, classic records out of it. But something about this, though, it feels like it's something that I think Nikki was waiting on. I think she was waiting for this engagement to happen. I agree, yeah. Well, she said she has like three or four more records. This is what I'm saying.

So I feel like she's been waiting for this. I feel like, I feel like Meg kind of felt like this was going to, it was going to come to this. And Meg, for whatever reason, has become a villain instead of a victim in the past few years, which is interesting too. I, you know, sat and thought about that a little bit like, damn,

like Shorty got shot and somehow became the villain. And I don't know why. Like again, it's a lot of things that I miss like that just because again, I don't, my eyes is not on the female rap shit as much as it should be to like somebody like you de Maris. Like you're going to pay more attention to this shit because you're a woman. But it's just interesting.

It's just interesting to see, you know, Meg end up in position she's in now. But the thing I like about it is Meg standing on a big box of business. She going right back. She's addressing shit. She's like, listen, she's looking better than she's ever looked. I mean, you know, through it all. Even than being a villain all of a sudden, she still has a certain level of class,

a certain level of grace, a certain level of just like, yo, I'm going to just keep getting better. You know what I mean? Like we've seen her stumble. We've seen her not at her best. And that's dope to see an artist like go through all of that, especially a female, to go through all of that and still keep her head high and still try to get better and, you know, working on herself and working on being a better person. And, you know, to me it's just in all of this, Megan is just walking a certain pace, a certain level with it. I'm like, that's impressive. And she hasn't, she hasn't, she dropped the record and she's been out partying living her life.

she has not responded to any of debate that Nikki's been throwing at her, even saying when Nikki said, go conjure up your dead mother. Like, Megan has not, because all the other girls are sitting there and go back and forth with Nikki on Twitter. Megan was like, I don't even have social media installed in my phone.

That's my assistant, like that post, like, but that's what I mean right there. See, that's how you're supposed to, I'm going to just put this record out and I'm going to go lay on this beach

and I'm going to sip colladas till I throw up. She was dancing with Victoria Monet. It's working with Victoria Monet. Like that's how you're supposed to Yeah, send me that. I didn't even know that exists to see you. Yeah. That's the real topic. That's the content.

We should open with that. But anyway. Even though this record stunk, I still feel like Meg needs to reply. Wow. You can get the, I know you can get the excuse of, it was, I don't even need to reply to that with that. No, you shot at her.

She shot back. It's time to shoot again. See, no. Yes. This is where, this is where, this is where. When you're a top dog, it gets dangerous. Because if you start busing too much and the person that's beneath you

ain't even responding to, you could start looking some type of way in the light. She could be like, yo, like, what's up with you? Like, show they're not even paying you no mind. You're supposed to be topped up. Like, and that's what I'm saying. Meg could just put this out and just go and focus on album mode, features.

Like if Hunter, Victoria Monet, drop a record next week. Like, there's a video. You know what I'm saying? Gotta be a video. Like, it's like you, if you, if Meg goes that right, this is what I'm saying when I said she's been walking a certain way and handling herself a certain way where it's very impressive.

She's moving like the top dog is supposed to move. Now, see, now I feel like we're moving the goalpost. Oh, how? That was our biggest, biggest problem was after the push and Drake thing, instead of a response, we got a J. Prince statement and Drake going on LeBron's bar show. But what I always said though. No, you got you entered the mud. No, no.

We're here now. Cool. You have to reply. Same thing with Megan, Mickey. I don't care. No. But in that Drake shit, I always said, I don't want to hear no more pushy bars.

I don't want to hear no more pushy bars. Because when it was on, when it was time to rap and go and go back and forth, it was called off for whatever reasons. We don't know. Behind the scenes. We don't know. It was called off. So as a fan,

I'm like, all, cool, I don't want to hear no more about it. So don't give me the album now and then tailor

certain bars to push it. Like, nah, I don't want, just give me Drake, just give me music. Drake,

don't give me disc bars. Give me music because when it was lit, it was called off. I have my popcorn. Ready. Then it's called off.

I'm like, all fucking. It's all good. Everybody go to separate ways. But then don't come back later and be like, oh yeah, and another thing.

No, no, no, no, no, No, no, no, no, no. We don't want that. It's over. That section is over. And I'm saying if Meg puts out an album in a month, there will be subliminal shots all over it.

She's a rapper. And I'm saying, you have to reply. To your point. Either shut the fuck up about it or reply and I know she's going to. But Meg has the luxury doing that. She's not the top dog. She has the luxury of doing that. When you top dog, when you top dog, it just comes with a price.

It's serving shit you just can't entertain. Nah. You can't. didn't start it. I'm not saying she started it. I'm just saying she may can keep throwing shots if she wants to. I'm saying if she decides to say yo this is the only time I'm addressing this shit and I'm not doing it no more. That's gangster because she's not top dog but she's moving like she's top dog. I'm only addressing this one time and one time old. That's exactly what she said though. She said I'm going to address this and I'm going to let her. See what I'm saying? And that's what the top dog is supposed to do.

I'm a I'm going to get this shit off and I'm going to keep going doing what I'm doing my motherfucking. Every time I turn on the TV shit. Planning fitness commercial would make Nikki more annoying than these women just ignoring her. She wants,

she wants them to respond. Like she thrives off that spat, that sparting. Of course. And you guys are making logical sense. I'm talking about they've entered

the rap battle mud. Fuck who's bigger status, anything. You're here now. Drake was top dog when Meek tweeted that bullshit.

He went right to the fucking studio. Meek was below Drake at that time. This is the thing. They were saying shit that's relevant. They hit someone

That was different though Not to touch you up That was different He tried to end Drake's career With that ghost writing shit Drake had to respond He had no choice He had to bust every clip

He had in the house He had to start throwing slippers All kinds of shit I respect I respect Drake Ford Matter of fact The Barrett and I were talking last night I think charged up

Is probably one of the most underrated disc records ever Drake got there and handled his shit Didn't matter who meek was Later on we saw with push It didn't matter either But also

Dupy Freestyle. Drake went down into the mud. Undered it. Dupy freestyle is crazy. Criminally underrated. But he lost because he went and talked to LeBron instead of replying after that. Yeah, that was wag.

Drake went into the mud no matter who it was. Was Drake bigger than Pushyty? Of course. He replied to an outro on Push's album. Like, I didn't know. Yeah, he's a rapper. Meg has to do the same thing now. I don't care if it's good or bad.

I actually thought it was crazy. that Drake replied to one little-ass bar of saying, uh, it was, it was written like Nas, but it came from Quentin. That's all pushed set on that entire album, one bar. And we got an amazing Dupy freestyle because, because when it comes to rap, it does not matter. It's Kanye, it's right there. Who cares, though? And, you know, Pusha told us itself, he, inserted himself into that beef, which is fine. But do you think Drake, understandably could have just left that bar alone and never replied and we would never talk about it. it again. Yes, but he's a rapper. So he did it. Meg, now, I don't care if it's good or bad,

has to come back. She's a rapper. But she already, you have to act. You're acting like Meg shot the first shot. She already did a response. She's supposed to respond to the response to her response. No, because at what point, at what point in my waste of my time, it's not like Nikki came out. And so pusha dropped. You are hiding a child. Meek dropped. You have a ghostwriter. Way after them. Nikki did not drop anything that caused a, uh, oh, I have to respond to this. There's nothing where it's like, ooh, Meg, got to respond. Everybody's looking at it. He's like, okay.

Everything else, it's a different playing field because everything before was subliminals. Same thing with the Drake and push a shit for years. It was back and four subliminals. Nothing ever came until Dupy Freestyle was like, all right, we're finally going to address this shit. And I'm saying Meg, with their subs back and forth, I'm not saying she started it. This was the first time it was really addressed. But don't you think you- I'm talking about Nikki Minaj,

and her husband that is a sex offender. That's what happened here. Now it's a battle. Before, it was just sending subs back and forth. But don't you think they need to be good enough to- This was round one. You have to go to round two. You don't think it needs to be good enough

to warrant a response. We all agree this is one of the worst disc records of all time. Why even give this bullshit energy? Like the thing with the Drake and push, they were putting back, they were hitting home runs back and forth. Everything they put out was fire.

This is garbage. Why would you respond to some dog-shid-ass trash record? Okay. I wouldn't. We can go back to the Drake comparison. Charged up. Meek didn't reply. Did back to back? Did he need to do it? No, but it fucking buried everything.

Then Meek put out a awful fucking disc record. And then Drake did 30 for 30 freestyle. He replied. The same thing happened when Nas and Jay between Ether, super ugly takeover. All of Blueprint 2 is Jay shooting at fucking Nas. The battle was over and they were still doing it. You have to continue to reply. you can't just leave this alone

you can choose to not reply I don't know where you keep saying you have to no you don't I think it's gonna come It looks better if she doesn't reply And anybody who's on her team Will tell her that Meg doesn't lose points

If she doesn't reply it is Niggas ain't like well Meg pussy Meg can't rap Nicky won the battle No Meg won It's over Someone find that Stiles Pete Ah

Stiles Pete was talking about The first round But if Nikki released one of them Other record She says she got And it's hard That's what I'm saying Okay then then

Then reply Then it's like, hold up now. We got to... Because that's the charge it up to back to back. Neke didn't take the bait on the one. Drake puts out the next. Boom, this fires back. Yeah, let Nikki put out one of these other records she's talking about.

Maybe it'll be worth her response. Now, what Nikki said was the next person getting dissed ain't even Meg. Well, Meg is going to be included in it. But Desiree or Desiree, I don't... Desiree Perez, the CEO of Rock Nation is who she says will be catching her neck smoke. I don't know what the back... She's already shot at Des, though. I don't think of them all

That's what Nick going? Yeah I didn't know I didn't read none of this I don't know what This is news to me I didn't know about none of this She already

Nikki has already Disp does I know I'm talking about saying That she has a record Yeah Bro that's it That's that

You didn't tell me that You didn't give me that bar I well I don't know She was a quote It was a tweet That was a tweet She has this tweet

Which I had Wanted to bring up next So it was a perfect Transition She tweeted Spending so much money But she's still A little broke

independent artist Desiree, you got to let it go, baby. The world knows she's ass and can't rap. Stop fucking to make, stop trying to make fetch happen. Shout out to me, girls. All this is, and this is where you guys will probably call me bias. So this coming from me isn't going to mean much, but I am telling you.

Can we stop with this Rock Nation boogeyman shit? Was it Torrey Lane's dad? Who was the one that really, like, Rock Nation is controlling the courts? What is Nikki talking about? She has started this whole rock nation behind Meg thing. They bought ads for a single like any other fucking management company would do. She said on the next song,

I delve into all the people, Desiree allegedly fired for unknown reasons, other things as well. So many people were blindsided and hurt by her allegedly. She's willing to go broke to try to replace me, fix it Jesus. So, yeah. He's willing to go broke to try to replace me?

Basically saying she's willing to spend all rock nation's budget on Meg to replace. No. They're trying to spend it on Caesar's Palace in Times Square. Like, can we stop with this Rock Nation boogeyman shit? They really think that Rock Nation controls America. Yeah. There's not, maybe this is fucked up. Sorry, Rock Nation.

They're not as important as you guys make them out to seem. They don't have this power that y'all think they have. They don't. They don't. They had an influence over the state of California is fucking crazy. They're the Jews of the music industry. It's crazy, though. But I understand what we're saying.

John D. Rockefeller, what was his religion? I don't know. Let me do the science. Well, Hove isn't not Jewish, so. And also, Rockefeller's not even named after that Rockafel. At all. But I really wish the internet would stop doing this Rock Nation thing. They don't have the power y'all think they do.

They're just a fucking management label. And that's it. And y'all also got to stop. They put all that power. They put usher at the Super Bowl. A lot of power. Doesn't really change America. They think that they think is, because they think Jay and Beyonce just have all of this power.

So they think it's all just Jay. Well, Jay and Beyonce have a lot of power. But let me, let me explain something. Jay and Beyonce don't give a fuck about what half of you niggas is doing at all. Jay don't know what the fuck the Megynastalian budget is. I could promise you. They don't know what's going on. They don't care about none of this shit.

He don't know what the fuck is going on. They don't care. Rock Nation is a tax right on. told me and J. Elect to go figure it out. I'm like, we signed to you. Yeah, bro. Go figure it out. The whole label's a fucking tax right off.

Yeah. Like, it's, I don't know. Maybe it was Tori Lane's dad that just started that entire thing. It's so insane. It's like the way people describe it too. Yo, Rock Nation is trying to push Meg to be the biggest and be the greatest rapper. Yeah, they manage her. Yeah, they get, what the fuck are you talking about?

Supporting their artists? Like when Nikki tweeted that screenshot to Dez, they took an ad out on Twitter to promote Meg's single. They get mad. Well, they get mad because my manager didn't do that, I'd be upset. They get mad because Nicky's, because Meg says that she's independent. Like, how are you independent? If they're taking ad money out to, I'm paying for this.

This is coming out of me. This is coming out of my 20%. Wait, independent artists aren't allowed to have ads? No. They say a rock nation. Rock Nation is paid for the ad. There's two sides of Rock Nation. There is a management side.

And then the label. Which is the bigger side. And then there is the label. I could be completely independent and be managed by Rocknish. And I would also love if my manager would buy ads for my single. How dare you. That's not a conspiracy to end Nikki Minaj because I'm buying an ad on Twitter. Well, see, this goes back to what I said originally in this conversation.

about certain shit you just don't speak on, you just don't address. Just put out music. Just address whoever you got to issue with in the bars. Tear their head off. This is part of the entertainment. This is part of the culture of hip hop. This is battling. It's nothing wrong with it as long as it stays on.

On music, we don't want to see Riley running down on somebody at brunch or at breakfast. We don't want to see. You know what I mean? None of that. Like, just keep it, keep it music. And, yeah, let's get some classic bars. out of it. Fuck it. Why not? Meg,

Meg, has to reply. That's what I'm That's what you're saying. I'm asked to. I thought Bigfoot was one of the worst disc records ever, but you still. I know Meg like, Meg almost got me to get a membership to Planet Fitness. If I see that commercial, it's a great commercial. Oh, my God. She looks amazing. She looks great.

Can I tell you guys why I'm going to hell? What's your reason this week, baby? Well, this was solidified. Okay. Oh, is this what What happened at the party? Yeah. Tell them. No, please tell them. what she did. Tell them all.

No, that's what it's hilarious. Yeah, tell them all. I still feel like really, really, really bad. What happened, man? Well, first of all, happy birthday to Amara. If you're listening to this on Tuesday, her birthday is today. Yes. We did the party over the weekend at the office. So a friend of ours, who you know, also part of the team, brought her boyfriend to Amara's birthday party, which was great. I met him before.

he's a really nice guy. He has one arm. A friend. A friend of ours. That is a part of the team, their boyfriend and her boyfriend has one arm. He has one arm. Gotcha, go ahead.

Nice guy, met him before. Okay. It's good to see him. Yeah. It was very overwhelming. Lefty or righty. Well, what you have? The left arm is missing.

Yeah, he didn't have a left. He can only be a righty. Okay, so he's a righty. well he didn't have a choice okay got it going in for the handshake was kind of nice though because he had the arm that you shake so it was like this is easy helpful it's all you need yeah it was very helpful yeah so at this party very overwhelming there's like 20 kids running around screaming i'm trying to get pizza in like it's just a lot going on all right how did he lose the arm was he like is it was it a boating accident was he in afghanistan is he like is he a patriot is a veteran i know he wasn't

wearing his purple heart. All right. So he wasn't in Nam. All right. I'm sorry. Go ahead. Go ahead, man. I mean,

listen, I'm that guy. No one was like, hey, I'm asking. You lose that in the Gaza Strip? You're like, no one,

it wasn't, it wasn't a topic of conversation at Amar's birthday. Okay. Anyway. My bet. So, uh,

our friend and her boyfriend are leaving and trying to say goodbye. I have Amara in one arm and a piece. I don't, no, I already see what this is going. That's what I said. That's what I said.

I don't even, I don't even, And I have a pizza box in the other. So now you're... And I'm in the middle of something and they're trying to say goodbye because they're good friends. So now he has more after you at the moment.

And then I... Then I said to him when they were both going for like a hug and a Dap to say goodbye. I said, sorry, I don't have any arms. Which he then replied with me too. I like that guy, really. That's funny.

My type of guy right there. It's my type of guy. Address the awkward shit. Let's laugh at it and move on. No, but you... Give me a big. Here. You don't understand. Rory was, I had like, purple.

Yeah, like my face went whiter than it is now. Because I just realized I said to somebody with one arm straight in their face, I don't have any arms. This five second of inconvenience in my life, I'm going to let you know. You literally are missing it up. I was going, I would have said that to anyone. I was trying to do shit like, I get it. I understand.

Someone tried to dab with you, like, you got any arms. No hands. You, you in that moment. You said look, mind no hands. But like, you have to understand in the middle of the chaos, like everything, it went quiet in my brain. And it was just us in the room. And I'm staring at someone with one arm. And I just said to them, I don't have any arms.

Did you say my bad? Like, after, or you just, I froze? I froze. And I'm going to tell you what. And then I watched them walk to the elevator. I'm not giving. I'm not bailing a rat. Roy's a dick.

He knew what he was doing. No, I did. Because you don't say in that situation, you don't say I don't have any arm. It could have just been like. I don't say I don't have any I don't. Roy has never said I don't have any arms. You don't say I have any arms. You say, yo, my hands aren't free.

Like I have my hands are full. You don't say I don't have any arms. Who says that? Me. Yeah, to somebody with one arm because you're a dick. That's exactly what you say. Rory has never said with a hand. We didn't travel the world together and carry on luggage, then had microphones,

all kind of cameras, equipment and shit. Rory has never said, yeah, I don't have any arms. Because I wasn't just trying to dab you at T's. No, you say my hands are full. that's what you're supposed to say my hands are full you don't say i don't have any arms he he knew what he was doing bro i'm not letting me get that off he knew what he was doing subconsciously maybe because i did not intentionally i can maybe go with your theory that subconsciously in my head you were a dick that happened of course that's what i did but i did not intentionally tell a man with one arm that

i don't have any arms subconsciously you told him that you thought it i mean well you didn't think it right there's hard to miss no you didn't think it right there in that moment But throughout the day, it was in your mind. You was, you was writing, you was writing material. You was writing material. He was writing material. I don't, that's the type of guy Rory is. He's going to write material.

He don't know when he's going to deliver it, but he's going to write it. Get up on your good arm? Yeah, come on, man. I was reading Nikki tweets. That's why. Exactly. Well, no, I felt like shit, why I froze and like just watched them walk away because I felt awful.

I was also like, oh, and she works with us. And here's another HR scare. And I just, I, I had a stomachate for the rest of the day. That's not, that's not, thinking like, what, why the fuck did I just do that? That's not worse than the blunt I had when we was doing that meeting read that year. And I told a girl that wasn't pregnant. I was like, oh, congrats. Oh, my God.

That's the worst shit in the world. Where was that? Was that in Atlanta? That's the worst. Yo, congrats. I think I almost tried to like, you know, give it a little. No, you did. And she was like, I'm not pregnant.

I was like, oh, shit. Now, but you could spot that. You could eye the ball, right? You could eye the eight ball. Damaris, if you would have saw this, anybody. Fresh out of the Chapo. Anybody would have been throwing off by this.

She looked, it was like, it was a, it was a, it was a, it was a showing. It was a, it was a bulge. It was a pregnant stomach. And she was like, I'm not pregnant. I was like, oh my. Did she laugh? I had on Tim's and my feet went like this in my team. And I'm not.

I was like, oh my God. That's the worst shit you can do in the world. It's telling a woman, congrats. And like, she has a big stomach. And she's like, I'm not pregnant. I'm not shooting at you because you claim that I did that on purpose. This is just actually the truth. She didn't look that pre-like, you, that was a very arrogant call.

She didn't, like, look. I mean, she wasn't- She could have been pregnant, but at that point, you just got to, like, not even try it. Because it was debatable. Yeah, that was bad. Like, that was bad. That was bad.

It wasn't like she nine months, like, walking like this and shit. But she looked like she just had a stomach. She looked like she could have been three and a half, four with twins. It was that type of stomach. It was like three months, but it's two in there. You know what I mean? Like, it was like it ain't, she ain't wobbling yet. One in the possible.

But it was like right here. And it was round. It was like, oh, okay, like, congrats. Well, maybe she had a tumor. People get tumors in their stomachs. Could have been stage four. Yeah, can't be. You can smell it out.

She didn't fart. She didn't fart. She should have fought it right there. I would have been like, oh, damn, sorry to hear that. How should I apologize? Don't, please. You're about to make it worse. It won't help.

You're trying to make yourself. She listens to this far. I wasn't there. So, hey, listen, I'm just laughing at content. You're a dick. I felt so bad. Roy came up to me afterwards and said, oh, did you see that's such? And I was like, yeah.

He goes, you met him. I was like, yeah, nice guy. he goes, I said the most fucked up thing to me. I knew immediately why didn't he was thinking already. You had limb humor. Fucking dick. No, I feel like I would have had a... If I really wrote material, it would have been better than that.

And I'm not going to get into it. But it would have been much better. No, that's cool. It's cool. Listen. I have no hands. Please don't bring it up to... Please don't bring it up to them because it's just you making yourself feel better.

Oh, no, we just bringing up on the show. It's all good. No one's going to hear this. Yeah. How'd you guys like the party, though? that bad damn oh no i was i didn't want to talk over him i was waiting for him to answer first no we we hung out for the most part yeah the little the what do you call it the smore station oh yeah very nice yeah we just hope we just run it's store station i have fun you it was really nicely decorated in

here like i didn't feel like i was like in my office and there was a birthday party like it was really really nice yeah it was fun it was uh the e-o dj set and amars birthday party or like the last two times I can remember of like genuine fun. Do you want to talk about? I just said I just was happy. Like it was amazing. Should we tell them all what song was playing? No, we're just, we're going to let it rock. We're going to let it rock. What wrong was song playing when? People were initially showing up. There was a certain artist playing.

Remixed to Ignition was playing when I walked into my child's birthday party. Who was playing that? Rory. It was from my phone. I didn't mean. You still have that music in your phone? Okay. No, tell the truth. No, no. Please. We're being honest here.

No, tell us. Somebody that works for us, year one. Oh, God. Has a lot of great playlists. And again, I was extremely overwhelmed with the beginning of that party of making sure everything was okay. And it's the first playlist in my Apple Music playlist shit is, the playlist that this gentleman created. And it's a great one.

I've never made it to the end of the playlist, though. Song 40 or 50 is like back-to-back R. Kelly songs. At a one-year-old's birthday party. You let R.C. I don't think he noticed because he was, like, running around, but I walked in. A lot of people noticed.

And Chris stop popping on the Rush Island. I said, what the f- We got food everywhere. Okay, but is it a classic? The party was catered. Where the fuck am I? These kids need to learn the classics. Yeah, not from that artist, though.

That's sick to be playing. If I would have had another arm, I could have changed the fucking song. Like, if it was your birthday party, I would have yelled at you later. But I would let you get your shit off. But like... Okay. I will take the blame for it. I am trying to throw it on Carl.

Everyone knows what I'm talking about. I wanted to blame Carl, but I did play that playlist. You guys can all lie to everyone on campus. camera right now. Since you don't have to take the blame for it, was it kind of nice to hear R. Kelly again? No, because I personally and... You don't hear them anymore. Sometimes, if it's not your fault, stepping the name of love is just playing at Target.

I mean, I didn't play it and fuck R. Kelly and I'm never going to participate. But if it's playing, I'm not going to be that mad that an artist I once loved. I can hear his music again. So you're welcome. Step in the name of love was hard for me to let go. The rest of it, I had such a nasty taste in my mouth. Once I find out a song was inspired by an underage girl, the song don't hit for me to say.

It just don't hit for me the same. I'm sorry. Yeah, there's just no reason to ever play any of his music at anybody's birthday party, actually. Especially your one-year-old daughter. Yeah. Even she's too young for the Cal's. Yeah.

even he would be like, yo, come on. Yeah. Not here. No, no. At least 10 more years. Not here. More years, yeah.

Come on, man. What was also very funny about the birthday party, like, outside of the beauty of, like, watching my friends kids play with my kid and, like, just, you know, the things that are. Yeah, dad stuff. Amazingly beautiful about first birthdays is watching worlds collide. So, of course, Kia had her family and her friends here. And I had mine.

Mm-hmm. trying to fend off some of my friends that are snipers like in the rafters top five dead or alive snipers talk to some of Kia's very innocent looking for a relationship

friends was also why I needed a third arm to do anything I would bring up your arm I had tapped Kia a few times of like Hey, I dirty mac. I was dirty mac on my own friends throughout the entire party. Why, though?

Because some of Kia's friends are just so innocently minded and like, that dude's going to ruin. He's going to ruin her life. Yeah, but you don't. He's going to ruin. No, I see, I can see it. In her eyes, she's looking at him. They're going to fuck tonight. Yeah, but he.

Jesus Christ. And he is not going to text her back. Yeah, but, Roar, you don't go into the forest and when a guy has a fucking a bait maybe deer in the chariot and say, hey, God, not that one. Not that. Yeah. I know that's what I was doing. Yeah, you don't say, hey, listen.

No, I'm chewing bail. You let, you let nature take his course, man. She had a sniper on her crew, too, and I saw it. She had a female. Oh, no, no, no, no, he had snipers. I'm talking, I was trying to defend the snipers off of the ones that are Army reserves. They don't even go to battle.

We can't call female snipers. No, there's a word for female snipers. I'm not going to say it. There's a word for male snipers, too. it doesn't matter. They still snipers. Cool. The man. Female snipers are not snipers.

We know what they are. Let them be that. I'm not going to say it. There is a such thing as a female sniper. What's okay? Yeah, horse. We were getting at. I was trying to, you know. Are you okay?

What the fuck is wrong with you? Yeah. No, I've been out of it today. I've been really slow. Like your curls are not curled all the way over. Your fucking bang is not banged. I was trying to think of an equivalent in the, the army world. And then I was like, oh, no, just horse.

And the Army word. And I spent all day yesterday throwing up. It's been a shitty run for me. Oh, you hung over? Female sniper. No, I'm not hung over. I just had a stomach bug. You know what, Damaris, I knew she was a sniper.

And I'm sure we're talking about the same girl. Uh-huh. She had ass? No, I had to respect. It's a great follower. Did she have ass? I don't even, I've not answered them. I don't even, I've never looked.

Demaris, you don't know if she had ass and not. I'm looking at her. You're going to look at a woman's ass. Not all women. Oh, so does she was a thing? I mean, she gets surgery, so she might have. I just really don't look at her body. Yeah, I wasn't.

Oh, that one. This is how I know. I didn't respect her gun. Like, I knew she was a sniper. You. Yo, if you would, we all know Loyon, right? Was he here? Loyal.

And I'm not here to, to, what he was at the 40? Oh, yo, I know. You know, he was fitted up. He was laying on his stomach. But. Nah. As up. Loyan's a nose coper.

He just, he just shoots up a blade of grass. He just picks up a blade of grass. He's like, oh, I don't know what to do with this one. Why I respect this young woman's sniper game. And I should have respected it more is I know the type of guys that she snipes. And once she learned about, like, Loyon's pedigrees, for those that don't know, he's our business manager, my financial advisor, he's he's the goat. Once she found out, like, his resume. You're the money, man.

I've never seen her snipe someone like Loyon before, and she was in that corner getting to work. Going crazy. While Ignition was playing. Going to work. I like that. I like girls that step any business like that. Nah, she said, well, he does what?

All right, but. That's how it be though. That's how it be though. Yeah, I know. Fuck what the nigger look like. What do you on? What do you do? Well, Lyon's an attractive man.

Don't do that. Oh, no. No. That's crazy. He listens to his podcast. That's something that men will never say. He sends you your check, by the way. He's the one that wires.

Fuck out of here. Everybody knows Loyal is my favorite team member. And I love Loyal. Lawyawks would he look like. A man could never say, yo, fuck what she looked like. Y'all do that all the time. Who's y'all? Who's y'all?

You just told me you fuck the ugly bitch. You just told me that the other day. You fuck the ugly bit. When I was like 18, 19. What you said by her ass was fat? How old was I? I wasn't a man yet. That was a fucking lost boy in the fucking streets of the Bronx

trying to find my way back home. He's a lost boy in the Bronx is great movie. Ayo. Yeah. How's that an Ayo? Talk about it. Why was you lost? What was you doing?

Where he was going? Who he was following? Ass. That's fair. I mean. Yeah. Not man ass. So don't try to make it gay.

See, look at you. Well, they get BBL, so you never know. It could be. Stop. Don't do it. So we stayed, like after everyone left, a few of us stayed. the office to pretty late just kicking it. Kicking it, right?

And after I had tried to Dirty Mac for so long, my Dirty Macing did not work. Nope. That girl was open and ready to go. And I had to ask my friend, can you not fuck her? Because it's going to interrupt my life. Who, what, can you bleep? Who was the guy? No, we don't talk about it after.

You don't know. Mall probably knows him. He's from Harlem. Everyone in Harlem knows everybody. Yeah, seventh half, you know. His name is street. How I go? He from seventh.

I know that, nigga. A sniper on seven. A sniper on seven. I know that, nigga. He got like 40 bodies on something. I know. He's the dark skin guy with the greatest smile. He's charming, tall.

Like, everything. It's hard to resist when a young white girl that has never seen that before. She never had chocolate in her diet before. She never had chocolate in her diet before. And I just, was it wrong of me to ask him that? Like, just please don't fuck her. Because it's going to come back to me. We blended worlds.

And if you start fucking Kea's friends, I know him. No relationship. He was not going to text her the next morning. We grown. We grown. I don't need that in my life. We grown. We grown.

So he didn't do it? It would be different if he was pursuing something. We are gone. Then you can say, like if he's pursuing something with her. then you can't say, please don't do that. Because if he's actually pursuing something, you might be, you're grown. No, what I'm saying is he can't say that

because it's like he might be, he might be looking for love. And if he's looking for love, she's looking for love, it might work out. You don't want to keep somebody from their soul. He's not looking. He's not looking. He's looking for head.

Then no, you can say don't do that. He's not even really looking for it to be a long-term thing. He asked me if this part of the studio was soundproof. That's while we were all in the front room. No, he was stupid. He's a nigger that can never come back. again. When they start asking questions like that. Yeah, but when niggins start asking questions like that, it's like, yo, what you trying to get off in here? Oh, Rory was going crazy. Rory was,

Rory was telling everybody business, telling, telling secrets to motherfuckers. I look over, niggling. They like, yo, de Mere, she was fucking in the studio. I'm like, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, I did see. We just had a conversation about not having parties here in the workplace, not having alcohol. And y'all just, it was, first of all, it was a kid's the R. Kelly thing. It's alcohol in the hallway on the floor. Oh, no, there's plenty of alcohol. Oh, exactly. See?

You think we was about to listen to some screaming-ass kids. Yeah. So sober? They found the rubber chickens, too. And they decapitated all of our rubber chickens. A lot of noise. What kid decapitated? That's the little kid you need to watch.

He's a school shooter. All of them. No, he's a school shooter and trained. Britson, actually. Oh, yeah, he's a school shooter and training. X is not a school shooting. Yeah. You just find chickens in a random place and you just start popping the heads off.

Watch that kid. He's telling you something. You know what kids come home? But you have Judas to their mommy. And then he's holding you and daddy's head like this. Watch that little nigger. Something ain't right with him. I don't know what to tell you.

A kid comes in here and finds rubber chickens and he pops the heads off. Yeah, watch him. He goes to the bathroom. I'm right by the door waiting for him to come out. What you was doing in there. And his matchbooks all over this office. Well, because you were doing your magic trick. Could play it with fire.

Yeah. So anyways, I just didn't want him to fuck. He is run. Now, you grown. Let them fuck. No. They're grown. They're adults.

And I'm not trying to make a you haven't been in a relationship joke before. But sometimes when you're in a relationship and your friends, fuck your girl's friends. So what? And don't talk to them anymore. It ends up being part of your life. You have to hear about it. That's when you tell you, your girl is a grown woman. I'm not talking about this in my household.

Your friend is how old? She's a grown-ass woman. No, I'm trying to create a peaceful environment. It's peaceful. They're both adults. They both wanted to fuck each other, but I don't want the, I don't want to hear about it. That's not your problem. His birthday is in May.

Now, what if we throw a party for Rory, then they both dare to shit awkward. They're grown adults. Y'all can get the fuck out of here with that weird shit. I think you're missing. Y'all two adults chose to fuck. They're consenting adults that want to fuck. I'm saying, I don't want the headache because I know the result of this. And I'm telling you there's no headache.

That girl looking up at him like, how come he's not texting me back? Because that's who he, he fucks women and keeps him moving. He's a very honest human being. Well, Rory, why didn't you tell us that? Why did you keep him from? Because now her heart broke. Yeah, because you're grown and that's none of my fucking business. How about that?

And I'm not sitting in my household talking about that. I'm feeding my daughter right now. Everybody shut the fuck up. I have no arm. You got to take your nuts, Rory, and swing the motherfuckers around your living room sometimes with no drawers on. That's what you got to do. Let them know. Listen, I got two big spaldings under these motherfucking boxes.

And I'm not talking about this today. My friend fucked your girl because that's what two adults wanted to do. They wanted to fuck. Now don't bring that to my fucking house because now she's. crying because he didn't fucking call her after dropping that pipe off in her. That ain't got nothing to do with me. All right, baby shark is on. Clip it.

Yo. Go ahead, Ma. What fuck you mean? That's a part of my religion. No, it's not. Too Spalding. Take your fucking nuts. Pull your boxes up here and show the motherfuckers if you have.

First of all, my nuts were clipped January 30th, 20th, 23rd. I lost any bit of control I've had in my life. My household is run by women. It's only women in there. It's my mom, Kia, and Amarra. I had lost my nuts. Nah, man. So long ago.

You are Irish. Go back digging to your roots, all right? Have a fucking Heineken or fucking... Kinness. And fucking drag your nuts around your house. Yeah, he fucked your friend. Yeah, she's crying. She's going to make her better woman, though.

She ain't going to do it again. Right? She's an adult. She's a grown-ass woman. She wanted to fuck. He wanted to fuck. They fucked. He didn't call it.

more. She's crying. Why am I talking about this? Because it's my friend. But say, okay, say you did the thing where you tried a dirty mac and they still went home and fucked and then he did what he was going to do. Not talk to her again. Then what? Do you still feel away? You did the thing. No, by the way, I didn't dirty mac

to her. So it wasn't, I dirtymacked with Kia and I dirtymacked him to his face of like, don't. Please don't. It was Kea's job to tell her friend that, hey, he ain't shit. That's kind of false. But what's kind of funny is Kia was more on most. I think of fuck, let him fuck.

I'm like, all right, cool. When she texts both of us in her group chat, I'm not replying. Yeah. Yeah. Because it's going to happen. About the group chat. That's an emotional-ass girl. You know that little half moon on the fucking, on the options of the chat.

Turn that motherfucker on. I don't want to hear about that shit. I ain't got nothing to do with that. That's not my business. Two adults, fuck, I don't. I don't, yo, hey, it is what it is. Ma'am, when you were one bitch, do you put the hide alert time for your other bitches?

Hyde alerts. Who you talking to? hide alerts you know who paid his bill me well alerts are what just the things that pop up like no you can high

you can hide alerts for specific contacts nah see I ain't that's too much work it's right in the text message thing under share your location you can put eye alert I'm not creeping so then when that person

text you or anything your phone sounded beyond when everybody else text you but when that person text you it will not alert you until you go in the app and go to their thing it'll tell you they text you

I put my phone on D&D for dates, but that's just out of respect. Yeah, whenever Julian's on D&D at 7 p.m. on a Saturday, I'm like, oh, he gets some pussy. I also had a very interesting conversation with a friend of mine at the party. I'm starting to realize that I think some of my friends never raised their kids that I thought were like fathers. Why are y'all so readily available? I've known some of my friends have had kids for up to 15 years old. Why were you always available? like now or just throughout the whole time

I've had a kid. I was talking with a friend of mine whose daughter is two months difference between Amara and neither of us have seen the light of day in a year. And we were going through our friend list and I don't know if this shady, but once you become a parent, it's like,

how we, like, I hung out with you all the time. Mm-hmm. And I thought you were a good, like, you were free all the time. Yeah, but I mean, wisdom. Did you raise your, kid. Yeah, but if you want to hang out with me or I have a kid and it's 10 o'clock at night, the kid is probably home sleep with my girl. Like, that doesn't mean I'm not a good parent because

I'm not home sleep at 10 o'clock and my kid is. Okay. That's one small scenario. I'm talking like I was, we were in our 20s single running around. You were there every night. Yeah, not see. Not all about every night. That's crazy. You was at the day parties. Yeah, yeah. See that. We was just, we were in a party. We was just chilling during the day. I don't even know what that looks like. Some people don't know what raising a kid. They think that you just, you know, I paid a rent. Okay, that doesn't mean you're raising your child.

I mean, but the rent is paid. Like, that's a step. Thank you. And I mean, I'll probably flush the idea out more. But it was a whole revelation we had in this office. Like, I don't think some of our friends raised their kids the way we thought they did because they were always around. Like, how the fuck did you do that?

Some people do the best that they can, Rory. doing the best that you can in being at every party that my single 23 year old ass is at is not doing your best. You got a point. You're also not 23 raising a kid though. What that mean?

What I'm saying is your mind state is a little bit of time. Julian always sends me a shit that's going on on the weekend that I fucking wish I could go to. I would happen. I would love to be. I'm not going to let you lie,

I'm not going to let you lie, bro. But why you can't go? Because I have a daughter. That doesn't mean you can't go. What are you talking about? I work all week, all day. So I go straight home to be with her, get her to bed, do everything. My weekends are the time that I can spend all the time.

Yeah, but if once your daughter is... I've already feel guilty leaving in the morning and coming back at 6 p.m. every day. No, I'm not about to... Of course, I want to go out on certain Saturdays, but every weekend, I'm just going to go to Lutlo? First of all, going on. And here's the thing. I want to. but I'm not going to.

Yeah, I bet you can't know. Like that doesn't mean, you know, I told her to bring Amara. But like I, but like I, but you're,

you're the guy. No, no, no, no, because it depends on the thing. Like I wouldn't be, yo,

it's the club, we got a table, bring a mara. None of that shit. But there's certain spaces that we hang out where you can, it's not a problem.

Your baby is not a fucking trophy. I'm not, I'm not, I'm not bringing my baby to hang out with me and my boys in the crib and play 2K. Like my baby's not coming with me. Like, that's not happening. I feel like that's dope, though.

To play 2K at the crib? No, it's not dope. To play 2K at the crib, that's not. I'm not bringing my daughter around you, niggas, to play 2K. I can be home. Well, specifically, I was talking about the Ludlow House example. Like, we could do a day hang. Not bringing your baby to Ludlow House, bro.

During the day. During the day, yeah. See, you, the parent, I'll be getting mad at if I go to Lutlo House. You just might be with a baby. During the day, while people are working. Yeah, there's like mad kids there. Yeah, people are working in Lutlo House too. That's what we're saying.

We're also talking about a Saturday. Yeah. Like a party at night that I would love to go to, but I don't do that because I'm also. I love to go to a partner. Like we don't have a nanny. Like also, like, also they need breaks. Like, that's also like to your point of a baby's sleep with mom. Like, mom needs a break too?

No, 100%. But I'm not saying some nights. I'm not saying every night go out. Now, first of all, but that's what I'm talking about. No, nobody. Every parent deserves to fucking go out on the weekend. Absolutely. No one's a shitty parent for going.

going out on the weekends. I'm not saying that. Every weekend is crazy, though. I'm talking about you were with us every fucking day and night. That's crazy. And it's a couple of our friends. Yeah, that's wild.

How, bro? People don't be raising their kids. That ain't, that's not a shock to me. People don't, people don't take care of their kids. Like, that's just a, you know, it's fucked up. But that's a very common thing. Like, people don't take care of their kids. Is the clock star on Ice Spice?

You've been calling about this clock. How are you going to start the clock every time she put the record? Last time you said the clock was on, she came out with a Dunkin' Donuts collab, bro. Like, the clock ain't on, bro. I thought I was saying the clock over sexy red, not ice-plice. No, you said the clock over sexy red. No, the clock I said was sexy red.

Ice spice, I said they're going to put all the money behind it. No, you had a clock on Ice Spice too, though. You clocked Ice Spice. It's all recorded, so I could be wrong. Is the clock on Ice Spice? I'll ask again. No. Thank you to shit, bitch.

No. You're not even the fault. It's not. as bad as you wanted to be, it's not. I like Ice Spice. Yeah, but I'm saying you sound like you want the clock. Oh, yeah, you think the clock is on. I think the clock started on Friday when this came up.

I think the clock started with Delhi. What are you talking about? I think you're old and not touched. I think you're old and out of touch. And I say that with love because I'm also old. But I think you're old and not a touch. The clock is not on Ice Spice. She has the kids.

Okay, so, all right. Even with the kids. See, y'all are the ones that are wrong. I give the kids more credit than y'all do. No. Nope. How much longer are the kids going to enjoy legitimately the exact same bars and beat for every song? Now, she farted on this one is better.

I give the kids more credit. I think they're going to get sick of this eventually. You guys look at the kids as idiots that, you know, they'll just listen to anything. You think of Toxwell. You're thinking too much into the art for kids. As long as it's a beat and, you know, the young girls could shake. and twerk and all of that, it's going to go. Yeah, but then they like, they age.

Well, yeah, I mean, but it's still, you know. So you think this can work every single time for the next five years? I've seen a lot of artists have the same flow, same cadence, same beat, and we call them legends, and I'm not naming it. Who? Name them. Say it. Nope. Not doing it. They're out there, though. We ran into a conversation. Listen to their catalogs. Rory a while ago where I think we agreed that she's going to run into the same issue that the baby had. because she came out with a new flow,

a new sound, it sounded great. But once you rinse and repeat that over the course of like three or four albums, it's like, okay, what are we doing? And we need to put some more respect on the babies if we're saying that. Why? He had the same flow and a lot of same beats and libraries,

but don't, he ate. He ain't this. The baby eight. Oh, no, yeah, he could rap. No, I'm not, yeah, I'm not coming at the, he can actually wrap. This has not changed at all. I just think her.

It's been the same. It's the same. it's the same lyrics and fuck the cadence it's just the exact same words it's the same words yeah but that's like how long do you think you can't trick people for that long I mean

maybe I am saying like an old hater but there's no fucking way you can do this for a long period of time I actually didn't think the clock was on ice spice when she did the pink but what do you because I was like oh that's a still still but what are you comparing this to like what is the what is the gauge here because it sounds like you

comparing her to just overall, like, rap, like female rap. And this is not what that is. I'm just music across the board. How long does this last? She's just making music that's going to go viral, TikTok, girls going to make videos to it. It's going to stream well. Like, this is not- Her EP I like. I think the Princess Diana record's great. I think, well, Della was after that, but I've really liked a lot of Ice Spice music. Yeah, but this format is, you, come on. This format is going to work for what she's doing. She just dropped it. You walked in here and said,

bitches be quick, but I'm quicker. Don't do that. You know the lyrics already. Don't do that. Yeah, because she said them on every song. Biches be thick,

but I'm thicker. I memorized munch. I know the lyrics to this song too. Because I memorized munch. Yeah, but what I'm saying is. He's not saying the same thing. Yeah, but this is the same as computer's puting.

They do, though. Bitches is as quick, but I'm quicker. Computers puting is the same shit. So Cameron and Ice, spice are the same. That's not what I said. See, you see how fast, you see how fast the narrative of change. That's not what I said. I'm saying the bars, the line is like it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, you get it. Like, her audience does not like, these are not hip hop officiados. Like,

that's, wait, all right. See, this is just going to, this is going to go viral. This is just going to be clips that girls are going to post videos to, like, that's all this is for. I've been articulating myself very well. Does the virality have lasting power? This, this can't be the response or roll out to the next Ice Spice album. Like, it can't. This is not going to work that long. It'll work for this year and after that, the kids are going to smarten the fuck up.

This is the same fucking song every single time. You said that last year. I said sexy red. I didn't say Ice Spice. Yeah, he did say sexy red. She's still here. She ain't going nowhere. Because she's been chilling.

How? Her baby shower makes her go viral. She doesn't need to put music out. She is an entertainer. essence of a human being is what people like. It's not really the music. Ice Spice and sexy red is one and the same though. No, Ice Spice be putting music out. They're both like

they've reached this point of where they're both almost like characters. Ice Spice is definitely a character. They're characters. Sexy Red is a character too. They're character. 100%. No disrespect. Not in a disrespectful way. Sometimes you say that, I know what you say. Not a disrespectful way. But they're like, when they're, you know, people that follow them, see them in public. It's like, oh shit. It's like when we were kids and we saw a guy in a fucking costume

on 42nd Street. Okay. And it's like, oh shit. Like, you know, you just take a picture and you want to save us up. Like, it's the same shit, but these are just artists. Nope, I'm going to articulate myself better now. They are drastically different because if sexy red puts out five flops, awful records, people like her personality, who she is, what she represents her. They love her. Sexy Red Dane. Ice Spice? I'm, I'm, I'm gonna be a dick. No, she doesn't have a personality. People like her music and her videos.

It's not her. It's not her that they love. They love what's going on with a music video. You're getting it mixed up. Just because her personality is not the same as the Ice Spice, I mean, as a sexy red, doesn't mean that she doesn't have personality. This is her personality. She's more like laid back until it's time for you to see her rap or perform.

You're not going to just see her like talking. much and doing shit like that. She's very... Who would continue to have a career? If both of them put out flops and people stop wanting to listen to their music, who's going to continue to have a career? Sexy Red or Ice Spice? Ice because the kids are more dedicated to their favorite.

Should it if they both flop? Yeah, I'm just saying, no, if they just both flop, who can continue to have a career and who can't? Sexy Red is going to... No matter what happens, sexy red is going to be fine. Ice Spice? She could get on IG Live and make a living. Ice Spice is more collab-friendly.

She could continue to have a career just doing collab. She could do that now. Because her music is hot. Damn, Ice Vice has a Taylor Swift record. Even if her music. Even if her music and it didn't affect her at all. Because even if her music flopped, she's created herself as this curly head.

Wasn't she on a Barbie record with Nikki? Yes. Fire too. Curly orange-headed character that kids love. She does not need to release music. A lot of kids who like Ice Spice can't even listen to her. her music. Okay.

Then what is? Because my question was, if eliminate music, let's say they both flop and no one wants to hear their music. What is Ice Spice career? So it's a bad hypothetical, but I'm,

she's going to do the same thing. A lot of these other female rappers did. They're just going to attach them to brands. It's like the likeness. It's like her image. That's all they're going to do. They're going to go that route with it. You can put Ice Spice in any commercial.

She's already in a bunch of commercials. You can make Ice Spice into a brat. You could put her in commercial. You could throw her. And then we ain't going to talk about if Ice Spice get an old Spice brand. You could go, you could throw her many ways, bro. She has that. Does it matter if no one wants to hear her music?

No, it does not matter. Bro, as long as she's going to get a feature, somebody, one of these artists is going to hit her for a feature because she's that she has, she's already instilled in that world of yo. People see Ice Spice. She has a fan base. She has a following. They're going to want to see her video. Like, they're going to want to look at her. That's just where she's at.

Is she ever going to put out a classic song or a classic album? No, I'm just saying, like, we don't even have to think about that part of the game. This is a whole new different game that these artists are playing right now. This is totally different. Ice spice is known for the music. She's not. You guys are actually missing my entire. I'm actually complimenting her.

She's known for the music. That's great. She doesn't have, she's not sexy red. She doesn't have a personality outside of that fucking video and song that we're watching. But she does, though. She does. To you, she doesn't have a personality to the kids. I agree.

I think she's dull as an unsharpened knife too. But kids don't feel that way. They don't. I'm trying to tell you. I'll be around kids. They don't feel that way about her. They love her. They love the way that she looks.

They do. So then what does she do after? She could do anything. The same way you said sex. So if no one wants to listen to her music, Duncan Donuts is still going to fuck with her? Like, come on. Well, first of all, Duncan doesn't.

But even if Duncan don't want to fuck with it, other brands will. Yes. Oh no. She can go get a fashion over deal. I'm not saying she can't do that. I'm with you. I'm with you. She's Grammy nominated right now. Taylor Swift record. We're talking about where she is right

fucking now. That girl was sitting next to Taylor Swift every camera angle. That's all music related though. If you take away music, of course she's not going to have the big music related deals, but saying that her career is over is not true. She can go, that girl can go on TikTok and have a dedicated

TikTok career and make millions. You're missing my, of course, she can go get it As long as she looks attractive and people like her, she's going to make, I'm not telling you she's going to go broke. She in no way is going to have the looks that she has now without the music. Oh, of course. And I'm saying, and I'm saying if she continues to put out the same fucking record, people are going to catch on the kids included.

And she's going to lose all the leverage that she has if she continues to put out the same fucking song. And that goes for all the drilled drums. I love them. You guys should start thinking of another strategy because in two years no one's going to be

fucking with drill drums. I like how we always said things so matter of factly and then when he's wrong he's like the kids are stupid. You can't say that they're not in two years that they're not going to fuck with that. I don't think they would be fucking with drill this long

and how many years are we in? Very true. So I mean, I can't say all that I just know that somebody like Ice Spice has a very long shelf life because she's a character. She has that look. She has that image.

She has that personality, although you think she doesn't have a personality. She has a very... I don't know. Talk about with the image they've given her. Yeah, but I'm just saying, and then what happens when she wants to rebrand her image?

There's always that part of her career, too. Now she's a little older. When she gets a little older, she can kind of rebrand her image a little bit. Old spice. She's dating, you know, somebody that's popular. You know how that shit go, man. You know what they're going to get with a bells and whistles.

Oh, yeah. She get a relationship. It's... Once she started her relationship rap? To the moon. This nigga got me cooking in a deli. Wait, no, no, ma. Six months, I'm just showing my belly.

Like, you know, that's how I don't know what they're saying. I secretly think all of you agree with me. You guys just want to bet it. Okay. That's the same thing that Charles Manson said at his trial. He technically didn't kill anyone. Technically, right? He didn't.

I know. He was a petty car thief. Yeah, I know. If Roy are you going to do anything. I love the beach. To not be wrong. He's going to go out of technically. Technically.

Technicality. Mm-hmm. Yeah. That's how this country was founded. We have voicemails. You've got mail. I want to keep arguing about this. I know you do.

Yeah, we don't. No, we do. Yeah, let's play his voice. So, um, this is, uh, is interesting. This guy reconnected with his dad. Is his dad, Ice Spice? And he called us. That's the only shit I want us hold on.

Well, actually, this call kind of has to go with, uh, the Nikki and Meg drama. Okay. I'm here. Yo, so I kind of got a crazy one for you guys today. I'm just freestyling off the top of my head, so bear with me here. So I'm 30 years old. I just met my dad for the first time last year. And one of the few things, one of the only things I know about him is that he got my mom pregnant when my mom was 12 years old.

And he was definitely older than 18. You know what I mean? And so my mom had me when she was 13, super young. and obviously a fucked up situation. You know what I mean? And the fact that I just met him, I don't want to rock the boat, you know what I mean? And really ask questions and pride. But that just stays in the back of my head of how fucked up that is.

I think he was something like maybe like 20 or something, if my math is right. And my mom was 12 when they got together and made me. So is there a right way or a good? way to go about asking about this. Do I just sweep it under the rug and don't ask questions at all? I'm really stuck with this one, so any advice would be appreciated. Is his dad Carl Malone? Are you okay? I'm just asking. Okay. Well, first of all, watch it actually. Your dad was 12 when your mom was, your dad was 20, your mom was 12.

I'm not a dick for saying, I don't have any arms. That guy just poured his heart out and you asked of his dad. was Carl Malone. Just as much as an asshole than I... Male man. No, because Carl Malone had an... I'm aware. Yeah, he's a fucking piece of ship. 13 old girl, something like that.

First of all, this is, you know, that's a lot. This is a real person. This is a family. This is a family. You're a mom and your dad you're talking about. But as a grown man, I would have that conversation with my dad, for sure. 100%. But what's the conversation?

Yeah, what is the conversation? I would want to know my dad's thinking, like, yo, what type of... What type of person are you? Like, why would you? How? Well, first of all, I'm, it's fucked up, but I wouldn't be here if you didn't. Right. So that's why it's a fucked up situation.

But it's like, I want to know the thinking, though. Like of a 20-year-old adolescent teenager, what is your mentality behind actually laying down and having sexual intercourse with a 12-year-old girl? Like, what is, what, like, what's in your mind? Like, what's going through your head? Like, because there's, now you're going to figure out other things like why he wasn't in your life. Like, what type of person is? It's, again, it's a little awkward because had he not done that, you probably wouldn't be here. But now that you're here and you're a grown man and you know things that you know and one day, I don't know if he has kids or not, one day he has a daughter or something like that, just the thought.

Keep her away from your dad. Of you having a 12-year-old daughter and then she pops up pregnant by a 20-year-old. I don't have kids, but I would probably be in prison for life. That's the rape. It's rape. A 12-year-old cannot consent to you. So this is what I'm saying. A question. It's rape. So was your dad not, because again, you're going to get answers to questions. Was your dad not around? Because he finally realized what he did and how he felt like, yo, what I did was wrong. I would imagine he's not around because he was locked up or whatever it is. I'm just saying you're going to have a conversation and something is going to reveal themselves. But 100%. You can't avoid asking that. You don't have nothing to ask if you don't start there.

There's nothing to talk about. Like, you have to start right there. Like, yo, so my mom was 12, you was 20. How does that, first of all, like you said, that's rape, number one. How does, like, what the fuck was you thinking? I've had this exact conversation with the same gentleman that I talked about on the other voicemail segment when I asked you guys for advice. that same guy had this exact situation of how he was conceived. And we sat and talked about that when we were teenagers,

like when he had an opportunity to meet his pops. And his perspective on this whole thing was like, I'd love to have a father, but I can't respect somebody raping my mom. Like how the fuck do you even make that, makes sense in your head. And his decision, which I agreed with, was just to leave it alone. Like, just don't have a relationship. As much as you want to have a father, that there, tell me the end result. He's going to explain it. Yeah. Then what? Like, there's no explanation to

this. So just don't have a relationship with him. Yeah. And listen, I have a father so I can never really understand what it's like to not have a father at all. So I can sympathize with that of like just, I just want to talk to the person that conceived me. Like it's my fucking father. I don't know anything about my family, but also look what he did. What, like, what do you think?

He's going to be a good guy now? It's not about what? There's no, there's, what conclusion could you come to after that? The only thing. And how do you even look your mom in the eyes after too? The only bail I can, I can, and I'm not shooting bail to predators ever.

The only thing I could think that he would be able to say to possibly semi-changed his son's mind about him is maybe saying, well, your mother lied about her age. I thought she was 16. That's the only way I can wrap my head around. Potentially he was 19 or 18, 19, 20, and she was 16. He thought she was older. That's the only way I can potentially wrap my mind around

even beginning to say, okay, well, maybe you were young and made a bad decision. But if you're 20 years old, 19, 20 years old, and she really was 12 and you were aware that she was 12. Yeah. Tell me about like your family health history and they need to lock you up. He's not a good person. Yeah.

Yeah, brother. She's 12. It's just so many. It's so many like I'm trying to put myself in that situation in that position. It's so many things that I would like, like I just would have to sit across from this father aside. I would have to sit across from this guy and this dude and be like, yo, what the, what was on your mind. Like what, like what? First of all, you're sick. Number one. Let's start there. You're sick.

I think you know that. I think that's probably why you weren't around for years. You probably realize that you don't have it all. Something wrong with you. You did some fucked up shit. Your karma is eating at you. You're fucking, you know, just your thoughts when you lay down at night are just keeping you awake. So you just isolated yourself. You rather just not be around and look at what you did and face what you did. You've been pregnantated a 12 year old. girl. But as a grown man now and this is the reason why I'm here, I came from this situation. I is, it's too many questions. Like, I have to know. I don't think you give him like any, not that you're saying this, but I don't think you give him like a pass or like an even inkling of a thank you

because of this. I'm here. Fuck that. You're still a piece of shit. No, always and forever. You're a piece of shit. Yeah. Like, I think you lead with that. First of all, you're a piece of shit. Yeah. Start the conversation like that. I wouldn't be stuck between the two worlds of like, but if it hadn't happen, I wouldn't be here. I'm just a victim of a horrible circumstance. You're still a fucking awful human being. Right. I don't want to get to know you.

The conversation I just spoke up when my friend was when we were teenagers. When we got older, he brought up a very interesting point. It's so weird that voicemails just have to always enter my actual personal life. He regretted not going because he wanted to figure out how crazy he might be. If my dad did this and this is... where I came from, maybe I should figure out how fucked up my brain could be.

Like, this is, this could be, like, a redid, like, what the fuck? My dad is clearly, well, not dad, but the person that birthed him is nuts. Like, I should go find out how fucked up. Maybe I'm undiagnosed with shit.

That's what Demerica said. Yeah, but like. Get the health records. You don't need a relationship with someone to get their health records. I just don't think that, that type of guy keeps health records, Julian.

That's all I'm saying. Sometimes you know, need to see face to face. Oh, maybe I am bipolar. Maybe I am completely fucked up. And I felt him when he said that to me. And I actually kind of felt bad for him to when I told him not to go see his pops. Because he's like, I probably could have like figured out some more shit if I was face to face with him to see that maybe like maybe I'm bipolar. Maybe I'm really fucked up. But it also could have traumatized him in ways he didn't even know he could be traumatized. I don't. I think that wouldn't have brought any closure. Yeah. No, not close. But just all right, my dad is

this. I can go get maybe the help I need with my mental shit. If you feel that way, then look into the mental health side of things on your own on your own fruition. You don't need your dads to just do it. Like if you're curious, go do the test. Go do the things. You don't need him. Fuck him. How many kids of serial killers become serial killers? We would have to.

I feel like, do serial killers, like have kids like that? True. They usually, it's kind of a flash in the pan moment. Yeah. Yeah, I don't know if that's like really a thing. But either way, yeah, I would talk to, I would talk to him, have a conversation with him, and address a lot of the questions that I've had. And talk with your mom as well. I don't know if you have. I'm not, you know, I don't know if you've ever sat down and had that talk with your mom about that whole situation. But, you know, I'm sure that's affected her in ways that maybe she hasn't expressed to you.

But definitely, I would say, you know, go get some therapy. You and your mom go together. I don't know if you're open to having your dad in that type of therapy situation. But definitely, I think you and your mom should definitely go to therapy. And that's a pry. I'm just curious how they met at 30 years old. Yeah. Like, did he find him?

Like, how does his mom feel about the whole thing? Like, yes, that's, that's such a fucked up situation. He's almost older than his mother and father were combined when they had him. Yeah. Sick. Absolutely insane. Insane. But then you also think, like, if you don't have a dad, some people just want to meet their dad despite everything.

Yeah, even if it's a piece of shit. Why do I want to meet this guy? I mean, but it's, listen, man, it's, I'm grateful that I, never was faced with that, but it's, it's, I can imagine that you would want to meet your father. Yeah. Or the guy that, you know, you came from. Like, you would just like roaming the earth and, you know, going through life, just not ever knowing who your dad was that. I mean, people do it.

But to me, that would be the most, I would think about that. It wouldn't be a day that goes by that. I wouldn't think about that. So this is, I think he said 30 years later, right, or something along that. He's 30. Because he's 30. Yeah. Yeah.

So what do we say if the dad got help? What do you say about potentially building a relationship for him? Fuck no. I would need to like know the whole scenario. Man, fuck no. Like also to your point before of like, did he know she was that age? And like, I mean, I'm shooting bail. Like, yeah, I'm shooting bail.

Like, yeah, I'm shooting bail. Oh, yeah. No, I'm on that side. It's a conversation. Don't need no relationship with a dude that impregnated. My question is, when did our caller here? find out that that was the situation. Like obviously he grew up with a single mom.

When did he know? Like when was it told that, hey, by the way, your dad was old. I was raped at 12 and you were born when I was 30. Like when did that become,

when do you figure that out? You figure out, well, you know how young your mother was because you know how old she is that she's raising you, right? So you know that your mother's young.

That doesn't happen to like, I don't know. There's so many more. Like 10, 11, you start paying attention to how, just how far away. way your parent is and age and as you get older, like, oh, my mom had me really, really young. But until you're that age where your mother had you when you hit 12, 13, and you're like,

you had a kid at this age, you were a kid. And then, you know, obviously he turns 18, 19, and he's like, oh, something's really wrong with that. Now, I don't know what age he found out that his father was so much older. But it also depends on his mother's mental health because his mother probably didn't realize that she was raped or that that's considered raped. until she was older, much older. Because if I'm having consensual sex,

as a kid, I'm not old enough to realize that this isn't consensual in my head, because I want to do it and my hormones want to do it, I think that it's consensual and that I made this choice. You don't look at it as raped. Like to this day, his mother might not look at it as if she was raped.

She might look at like, well, I pursued him or this, this and that. She might not look at it that way. But that depends on her mental health and how she raised her son to look at it. So there's a lot of nuances and aspects. And not only that, this is more common.

Very common. And to Demaris's point of her not even realizing, too, how common it is, like, people keep sexual abusers in their family at holidays and everything. Like, oh, that's just how things go. Like, that's how a lot of people look at stuff. My family included. Like, there's sexual abusers here. Yeah.

Because it was so common with everyone in this house that they think it's. okay. Not okay per se, but just be quiet about it. And they, like, just be quiet. Like, it's, some people don't realize that they were sexually abused. And a lot of women are, a lot of young girls are, a lot of young, like, you see that with that whole R. Kelly situation when they're like, them girls was fast. They was fast. They wanted that. They wasn't taking advantage of. They was fast. They was grown as fuck. Like, that's the way a lot of our community looks at young girls who end up in sexual encounters or

romance took encounters like they're fast and so it's like a lot of blame is put on them like oh you can't put the blame on a dude like she was throwing it at him she's a hoarse like she hit puberty like she's a horny this is what happens with with preteens and teenagers like they get horny and make stupid decisions but their brains aren't developed it doesn't mean that they're making smart decisions it's up to the adults not to prey on them yes but coming up in families a lot of times it's just not it's not tall my grandmother had my grandmother had her kids at 14 either 13 or 14 or 14 or 14, her first kid. Yeah, that was, but I'm just surprised if he's only 30.

To so many people that they, yeah, if he's only 30, don't even look at it as sexual abuse. Shamed around that time. Like, way back in the day, like grandmama and them, especially like down south and stuff, it wasn't as shamed, but like, he's only 30. That was, that was a scandal back then, for sure. It's, it's super common. Yeah.

What sucks to you. Prayers to you and your mental health and figuring all of that out. I don't, I don't know how I would. I kind of want him to call back. I got so many questions. I do too. And I don't want to, I don't want to. you know, because this is trauma for him.

Yeah. And I don't want it to come across like I'm just, but it's like I would, I have a lot of questions for him though. Like, you know what I mean? Like, what's the relationship like with you and your mom? And, you know, when did she tell you about the situation? And, you know, it's just a lot of things that I would, I would want to ask him. But either way, man, prayers to you.

Prayers to your mom. And hopefully y'all get some therapy and, you know, can kind of, I don't know. again, I don't know the relationship, but hopefully I have a very loving and very, you know, trusting and protective relationship with each other. And, um, yeah. Also, another option.

Knock them out. You'll feel better. Possibly. I would go another route, but... Manolo, shoot that piece of shit. Have y'all been watching Chrysler? I just started the first episode. Yeah, I saw the first episode.

I'm on like episode. I don't know. I'm indecisive after the first episode. After the first episode, I was calling her a dumb bitch. Yeah, I'm kind of indecisive. It gets better. It looks good, though. Like, the cinema tie, like, it shot well.

But I'm just like. I'm going to try. Yeah. Why they got Sophia Vergara, she's playing, she's playing Griselda, right? Yes, she's doing an amazing job. Have you ever seen a picture of Grisela Blanco? Yes, that's also another reason. Sophia Vigara looks way better.

Well, hold on now. Hold on now because they were showing pictures of Griselda when she was young, when she was young, like the age that they're portray. Well, not as young as she is now, but when she was young and she was, she was a little hot shit when she was young when she was in her 30s. I can show you pictures of Sophia Vigaro when she was younger too. I know, but I mean, at the, at that point they made Sophia obviously, no disrespect. They made her uglier.

She doesn't look like herself in the show. So they did. So let's stop right. Intentionally, they got to make the actress uglier. You should probably cast somebody else. No, because she's, didn't they like. Like fuck her whole nose up and everything too. Yeah, they really, she has like some prosthetic makeup.

Yeah. Just a bunch of ugly women that audition for roles. You say, Rizelda was good looking when she was young. No, she was not. Well, they might have put up a picture of smiles. That's her right there. That's a good looking woman. What are you talking about?

Is that good result? That's a good looking. You think that's a ugly woman? Yes. I mean, you know, I don't know. Okay. That's a bad photo, but she wasn't like, she was, everybody gets older. Well, the point is they're making Sophia ugliest shit.

so she could play this role. At the end of the day, I'm watching the show on my episode three, and by episode three, I have forgotten that Sophia is Sophia, and I'm starting to look at Sophia as Grisilda, and she's doing a very good job. Does she get smarter?

Yes. I mean, obviously, she turns into Griselda Blanco, so, yeah, she gets smarter. I know that just through the whole first episode, I was like, I was born at the wrong time. I would have been a fucking king. She was a fucking idiot. You became the goat, and he was doing this?

Yeah, I was, yeah. But she gets smarter by episode two, and definitely episode, you know, it gets better for sure. I mean, what people don't understand about the drug, the drug game is, it's really just supply and demand. It's just that what you're supplying

and what's in demand is illegal. But like, if you know how to meet a demand with the supplier, like, it's not hard to sell drugs. Okay, but also, like, if you look at someone like the real Rick Ross, you know that's an extremely intelligent human.

Yeah. That guy, had he had the right opportunities would have been a CEO. And I'm not saying that happens with everyone that sells drugs. But the kingpins and queen pin, like it's Brazil. She was the one. She was the one. Yeah.

You can see the difference. Like she had to have been the most intelligent person to get that way. But it's not just knowing somebody. That can get you good for a year. It's not, again, it's all, it's all. circumstances, right? Because she's, she's, she's from Columbia, which we know the coca leaf, that's where it is. So she grew up around something that she looked at was like, oh yeah, that's just cocoa leaf. Like that ain't now when you have, you meet, if you happen to meet

somebody that's in the U.S. where they're saying, hey, people are cooking this and making a drug that is in very high demand right now. We need this. Then it's like, okay, I got people here. We'll start to do something. Then you start to learn. how to manufacture and maneuver and ship things. But like being born somewhere where, let's say if you grew up in Queens and it's a fucking, it's trees everywhere that all of a sudden in fucking Peru there fucking smoking this tree that's just like,

this shit is everywhere in Queens. Like what the fuck? You're going to find a way to connect with somebody over there. Right? And be like, all right, how are we going to start funneling this shit to get it over there? Okay. Well, Ma, Ma, I think you're really down. It takes, I'm not, no, no, I'm not downplaying it, but I'm saying a lot of things like this.

A dumb person thing is rich selling drugs. I 100% think a dump person. Things like this, though. To have this type of run, you got to be different in the brain. You have to be different. You have to be a CEO. But again, it, it, that couldn't happen to somebody that, that was born. Right, but that couldn't happen to some.

Look at the biggest drug kingpins of all time, right? Where most of them from? Where the drugs are. From where the drug is fucking, where it is. So that's what I'm saying. Like it's not that she's this fucking genius. It's like, wait, y'all paying what for this shit? Are we going to find a way to get this shit over there?

So it takes some hustle. It takes some fucking connecting in relationships. So that, to me, it's more about relationships than it is, yo, you're a genius. No, but that's what that's, but the genius comes in in the relationship. That's what I'm saying. Like, yeah, it's not about the supply and demand. Like, that's obvious to a duck. It's, I'm a woman in this game in Miami.

the 80s where ain't no rules. And there's a bunch of mob, I mean, not mobb bosses, but a bunch of niggas that sell this drug that want me off this earth. And I got to outsmart these niggas that's been doing this way longer than me. And I'm in here doing this shit by myself. That's where the genius comes in. Because, yes, there's always going to, how do I escape the cops? The cops are on my ass.

How do I escape that? How do I escape the other drug dealers on my ass? How do I build new clientele when people, every sector is already locked up by a drug deal? or how do I create more revenue? That's a genius shit. The talent of Pablo Escobar was not that he was born in Colombia where the product was. That's like world leadership.

You're a diplomat. Like you know how to not only deal with the government, the underworld, the cops, other drug dealers. Like you are a legitimate businessman, probably better than a legal businessman when it comes to real. Like, that's a talent. Not everybody can do it. There's no.

If I'm in Queens and find out, out that everyone in Peru likes to smoke all the fucking trees in Cunningham Park. Just because I'm there, it doesn't mean I'm going to know. For like a year, I could probably bring those plants down to Peru. But I'm, my intelligence is going to have to kick in to have a career.

Well, yeah. I have to adjust. Things are going to change. Like, especially with supply and demand, laws change. Well, in any, first of all, in any type of business, you have to have some type of brain. Like, we know that. That goes without saying. I'm just saying a lot of the times when you look at these these kingpins and these queen and these queen pens. A lot of it is they just was in an environment and then they, you know, they was come from

very humble beginnings and they're like, listen, I got to find a way out of this shit. Developed the right relationships with people. Oh, this person's a truck driver. Cool. Let's get two of these truck drivers. Because all the shit is they come from these, these countries that are very poor and they just put people on a pay, but put cops on the payroll, put fucking elected officials on their payroll. Like, listen to talent. No, I mean, it does. It takes, it definitely takes a certain level of thinking, without a doubt. But I am going to check this out, though, because I saw the first episode, and I was like, uh...

Honestly, the only dumb kingpin that I can, like, really think of, and maybe it is white privilege. Sorry for my white guilt. Uh, Boston George. He was an idiot. He was... Blow was one of my favorite movies. Mm-hmm.

He was... That was white privilege. Him becoming a kingpin, and I've watched his Vlad interviews and, like, I know the real story against the movie. He was an idiot. Why did he say he was an idiot? He fell into all of that. He like legitimately

just ran into the right person and became a kingling. That's how most of it happened. No, but then why he got fucking arrested and fucked over so much is because he trusted everybody because he wasn't smart. Like he was a .

No, I'm not going to say that. I'm just going to say that he was looking at it like, listen, we could all he was dumb. I know what you're about to say? We could all get rich. We could all make money. This shit can run smooth.

Which is dumb. I think he was definitely lucked me in circumstance mixed with being charismatic. Charismatic, yeah. He may have, he had that talent to be. Well, that's why Grisela was who she was because she realized that men are very weak. All she got to do is flirt, grab a nigga dick. He's going to think she'll into her. She's going to take him in the hotel, blow his fucking head off, get the competition

out the way. That's why they was calling her Black Widow. She was fucking niggas and killing him. Like, oh, you think I'm in love with you? Oh, you think I, because I suck your dick so good. You think I love you? I'll shoot you on your fucking forehead right now. I didn't know she used to be a prostitute

Boston Georgia wouldn't have done that. Not sucked it. Shoot somebody. Like he, like I'll even, I hate to say it from the humanity factor. Blowing someone's brains out at the drop of a dime

is a talent you need to have. Yeah. Being ruthless is a talent. I wouldn't call that a talent. Yes, it is. You need that level of detachment. That's not a talent. You need that level of detachment.

not a talent. All I'm saying is the trigger isn't, but being able to be like, okay, this is a threat, eliminate the threat. That's not a talent. That is. You need to assess what's best for your business. I'm just saying, we're using a wrong word. That is not a talent.

No, not killing people isn't the talent. It's the ability to assess the situation and get people out of the way that may be harming your operation. It's not killing someone's not a talent. No, kill them. Get the fuck out of here. It's the ability to analyze this and look at it holistically and be like, oh, this person's either the mole or the fuck up

or whatever the case may be. And get him out of the way. And have no remorse because that's also to the other skill of this. It's like, I can kill this person and get lunch with my family

right after this. That's not a talent. That is a sick one, but it is a talent. It's not a talent. Okay. And we're just going off the movie Blow.

George was fucked over by the gay dude, Pablo's man. Everybody he should have smoked and his own wife, who was a piece of shit, also was trying to tell him like bro everyone fucks you in the ass this is why you suck at this job yeah she was a but she was

right like Diego fucks you in that everyone fucks you over because you are not built for this he fell into that i'm not saying he's a dumb human being but for that gig he that was right that was white privilege like you really just got that job he didn't even recognize his own mommy fuck with him like he's an idiot what the mother from blow is the worst mother of all time but you know he could have avoided everything had he had what julian is talking about How are you not smoking the gay dude? How are you not doing that? Spoken on that f***ing.

Sorry. And his dumb ass with his emotions. Leave it. Would not give up. What was the gay guy's name? Now, Pee B. Huh?

Yes. Pee Weirman. It was Peevee. It was. Was it Pee. Yeah, no, it really was Puey. Oh, man. But yeah.

He did not want to give up his California. His name was Derek for real. And he said it just like that when he got emotional in the fucking motel parking lot. Derek for real. Because the dude wanted to, he wanted him. And that's not intelligence. Brazella would have never done that shit.

No, she would have killed the dude. But then that's part of a talent. No, but then that dude was a, he would have had crazy heat on it. That dude was a major, he was a major figure too. You kill him, you would have a lot of problems. So, Ma, you said you had a lot of episodes yet. You haven't watched an episode yet? First episode.

The first episode? Okay. Yeah. I only did one. It gets way better. The first episode, I was literally tweeting because I do tweet, watch threads. And I was like, okay, I'm watching Griselda. Does she get smarter?

And then it's common sense kick. Then it was like, bitch, you call it her dumb. You're dumb. Obviously, she's Griselda. Obviously, she gets smarter. So, yeah, second episode, third episode, way better. My boy put me on to this YouTube series. Bless you, Julian.

My boy put me on to this YouTube series called Evil Intentions. I don't know if you ever watched it. Never heard of it. It's about a lot of crimes here in New York City that happened. And it was never know. like real like news on it. I think I've seen the Avey thing. Yes.

I have not watched this, but I know what you're talking about. What is it about? This is something that I think everybody should probably check out on a YouTube. There's a lot of different cases, things that happen. Some shit here in New York that happened in my hood that I'd never even know happened. It's like, yo, I don't remember hearing about some of the things he was telling me that was going on in New York City. I don't remember hearing about any of that shit on the news.

Yeah, like, they used to keep crime a secret. Yeah. But this is something that I think everybody should check out. Wow, wow, shit. Who's a top five drug dealers before we get out of here? Your faves? Yeah. My guy in Chicago was pretty good.

Dead or alive. That was funny. Listen, I thought it was a good joke. Yeah, that was good. I liked it. Well, Grisolda would probably have to be number one. Really? Frank Lucas.

Escobar. Wouldn't be. Pablo wouldn't be number one? But she was getting, he was getting his work from Gurizalda. But he still was like. They worked together. Yeah.

I guess I have to finish the series. But he, I know more about she was a better than one end up. Than I'm like the real Brazil. Like I know of her, but I don't know my Godina. She was supplying him. So if she's supplying him,

then she would have to be above Pablo, no? I just think that's how it goes. If I'm, if I'm your supply, I think I'm above you. I don't know. could be wrong, but I'm just, I'm just saying. Who had a longer run, though? Did he have a longer run to her?

Pablo, yes. Yes. He had a longer run than her. Pablo is like, it can't not be the goat. What about Chapo? I was going to say, what about Al Chapo? Nah, my dude down in, uh, what's the dude from Miami? Willie Falcone. Got to be number one. Give me Willie's background.

Uh, him and his, him and his brother, uh, they had a, and they had a cocaine cowboy in him. Willie Falcone and Sal. They was arrested for moving drugs. They had a speedboat. They went into like speedboat racing and all of that. The brother was locked up. He was locked up in L.A.

Escape from jail in California. Because back then it wasn't really computer systems and things like that. Everything was like papers and filed paperwork and shit like that. So he was able to fucking fraud, like, you know, get somebody else's paperwork or some shit like that. Got out of jail. flew back to Miami and was on ESPN racing boats. I remember that shit. When he was supposed to be in fucking jail in California.

That niggas is a legend. Yeah, that's actually. He should be studied. The nigger like that needs to be studied. It's okay to kill communities if at least you do it that way. That's in, yo, you're supposed to be in jail.

And you're on ESPN racing speedboats. Is that how he got caught? That's not. No, they didn't catch them. They didn't catch him. They made more than $2 billion in cash by bringing at least 75 tons of Coke. Willie Falcone and Coney. Sal.

That was a good Netflix. I watched that. Insane. That story is fucking insane. I had to check that out. What's the name of this? There was a drug dealer that I think he was from New York.

They to this day have not found him and was on like some kingpin shit. Typing drug dealer disappeared North Carolina. Actually, hold I take that back. I think Sal Snits, so I don't even want to say his name. Willie Falkone. He stood ten total. Frank Matthews?

Frank Matthews. He may not be number one, this would be like my personal favorite. This story is fucking crazy. He to this day, no one has found him. To this fucking day. He's like Tupac. He just disappeared.

Yeah. Like was the fucking goat in New York. And no one found, I can't think of another drug dealer. I mean, Chapo, you know, he tunneled out. This is the only one I know of that he's still alive, just running around North Carolina. No one can find him.

Gangston. That's fire. And people wouldn't recognize him if they saw him now. anyway. And he doesn't get the American gangster movie because he was dead quiet, made a billion dollars, and disappeared.

So you're supposed to do it. That's a dream. Also, like, Hollywood really changed the perception of Frank Lucas. I admittedly, like everyone else, watched American Gangsters. I've heard the name before, but I didn't know.

Classian. I was fucking 17. I saw his house in T-neck. I did my research. Frank wasn't really that. well it's the whole thing to live modestly yeah maybe the house was that back in the day like you know our yeah that's what you i think that's what you're i'm talking about like hollywood he had to mansion with his family and what shit it was like a one-floor house in teaneck new jersey so maybe not as one of his car he was like going crazy no but you can't it's it's it's

it's smart to live humble if you're making that much money you don't want to go oh no i agree i'm so about the movie in itself of him having the penthouse and all this other shit. I know the fur coat is a true statement that that got him fucked up. But he was not living the way they made that movie look. He was super low. I mean, yeah. That's what you're supposed to do.

Wow, this guy, Rory, the guy that still disappeared. Frank Matthew is. So they got him and he went out on bail for $325,000 bail. He had six counts of tax evasion, conspiracy, distribute heroin, and coke. It was facing up to 50 years. Yeah. When he was out on bail, he took $20 million, fled the country with his girlfriend.

His guy's... And left behind his common law wife with their three sons in Staten Island at their Mansion Island, and then was never seen again. Son still lives in Staten Island. Gangster. Took his 20 million and was like, deuces. And this is why I know... This is why I know he didn't really abandon his kids.

Because I could tell based off the Frank Matthews Jr. interviews that him and his pop is still in contact. because his son said, nah, never heard from him. Gangsta. Wiring him money. No, no, no. They talk that day. Haven't heard from that. Nah, no idea. No, what y'all put in the press is what happened.

Yeah, yeah. Whatever y'all said happened. His son is. Just shut the fuck up. He was only active for eight years, but he operated in 21 states. And in one year, he made $10 million. Crazy. I was looking. In the 70s.

Crazy. When I was watching. and Griselda, she had like some party where she was, and you guys, I get to it, where she was, you know, advertising her coat to the white people. And the party looked so wild. And I was watching how she was getting the Coke to the United States. And I was just like, bro, the 80s looked like it was the best time in the world. You just bringing 15 bitches with just coke sold up in their bras on a commercial fucking. Y'all having parties just in the middle of the fucking just right there on the pier. Just bitches naked fucking Coke everywhere. White people with tennis rackets. And life is just. is great and I was born at 90 fucking four. Yeah. 9-11 to fuck the game up. You can't get shit on an airplane. Yeah.

That shit is ass. I feel like I missed the best times. Like I was born in the wrong era. I should have been 18 and 80. I'd have been going crazy. I wouldn't be here. I wouldn't have made it. That's why I kind of like respect.

I know my mom had her habits, but I'm like, if I was you in the time, you was alive. Boy. We also didn't have to worry about the bullshit. Like the product getting cut and stepped on and everything. Like it was, yeah, it was more prevalent, but it was clean addict. Now, but real shit.

You got to speaking from like the kingman side. He's speaking from like the buyer. Like, you know, nothing would step on. What we're saying? Like, it's, yeah. Like, it's a better experience for everyone involved. You stop doing code because you're scared of fentanyl. Just say that.

Oh, it was a big part of it. Yeah, obviously. Yeah. Max death was a huge part of that decision. See, why are you. got to see what you got to say is that you got to make it so yeah what no it has to be a whole different no it needs a whole new phrase is what I'm saying like add something to the product I know I know what's stepped on me saying with fentanyl now that needs its own no category like the same shit

but it's crazy now stomped on yeah moon walked out it's crazy because one way ticket to heaven yeah yeah it's crazy because a lot of these a lot of these feeds now They don't even want heroin if it's not, if fentanyl's not in it. Of course. That's the same thing. It's insane. Like, oh, you want to die. Yeah.

Or you want to get as close to death. I'm like, I'm going to go back. Yeah. You want to see the light for sure. It's crazy. Heroin is fucking nuts. Yo, a billion dollars cash, non-tax. Yeah.

Or you get to live two weeks in heaven and two weeks in hell. Just a and you come back. Billion. Give a billion. That's an easy-ass question. Give me a billion. Yeah. Why don't want to do that?

Wait. Wait. Wait. Oh, that's an interesting question. A billion dollars cash, non-taxed. Yep. Or you get to go to heaven for two weeks and see what heaven is and go to hell for two weeks and see what hell is.

I don't care. I'll see when I get there eventually. Right. Give me to Billy. Bill. That's tough. Also, I think based off that experience, I could get to a billion dollars based off of that. Yeah.

I'm the only nigga that's seen heaven and hell and came back. You know how many people claim that? Mad people have. No, no, no. I'm talking about, I'm going to sit here and give you niggas detailed description. The world knows that I actually did this. You're still not getting a billy. I don't know, man.

I don't know. I can get to that billy off of that experience, I feel like. You might get a couple mill. You ain't getting to the bill. I can find heaven and a billion dollars. Fex. A bitch name heaven down the street. That's right.

You bugging. I don't know. Two weeks each. Yes. I don't want to speak two weeks to hell. I get to interview everybody that's in heaven and everyone that's in hell. You know, I'm going to make $7 billion the day I come back. Making you sign an NDA when you go to heaven or hell, bro.

You sound crazy. Signed to the NDA. Who's going to make you sign the NDA? God, bro. And the devil, damn sure. You can't see what the...

I can't let these niggas know what I got going on down here. They wouldn't sell. They fucking sold to me no more. You know, heaven's fucking boring as shit, too. How do you know that? Because you hate peace, weird. No, it's not hate peace.

Look at the shit that's considered against the code of... It's what? Just Christians? Like, Yeah. Like, like... Like, okay. Well, this is the thing with...

This is why heaven. It just makes no fucking sense. Heaven makes no sense? Laws and things. change all the time. So, okay, at one point in the Bible and certainly you can't, it's illegal to be gay and get married.

It's not illegal. It's, you can't be gay. You're not going to heaven if you're gay. That's the whole fucking slogan for how many fucking years. That's how Christians interpreted it though. That's not exactly true. And we know that that's not. Okay. We know that gay people are so based over that, you know, heaven is. So why would

heaven now be whack? Because he meant heaven ain't got no gay people. No, I'm just saying there's no like, I'm just saying, where's the Because there's things that people have done in the past that would land them in hell. But now laws and things have changed and the common collective has changed that now those things aren't as bad as they once were.

That's what I'm saying. I'm critiquing the system. But Christians still believe that those things are. That's why our question is legal don't mean that Christians don't still think how you're thinking of heaven is based off something that we all don't agree with. So we're talking from heaven from our own perspective.

Then we're all going to hell anyway. I'm not going to hell. Now you see why going and experiencing it for yourself and being able to come back. Who the fuck is in heaven? Nobody. All right. So you're answering my question. You get to go to heaven for two weeks.

All of these questions you're asking right now, you get all of the answers. Remarital sex. Okay, but first of all. All of the questions you're asking me will be answered with two weeks in heaven. You will get all these answers. I don't want to. I'm good. Okay.

Give me the billion dollars. I believe that I'm truly going to heaven. If there is a heaven, I believe that I'm going. I'll get there when I get there. You will own the world if you go to heaven. for two weeks and hell's two weeks and come back. Okay, well, tell me. You're the leader of the world now. Tell me how to market it. How? You go on Vlad and start talking about hell is it.

Yeah. Going to Vlad first when you come back from heaven is crazy. No, tell me how to market your health. You're probably asking questions. You're going to sit down with Gail? Like, how are you going to market it? What's your rollout? Once you, okay. I experienced heaven for two weeks.

I experienced hell for two weeks. Cool. Here's what it is. You thought that breakfast club trailer shook shit up. I'll shoot just at it. put that on top. I actually don't think it shook anything. I'll be like,

you're saying everyone knows that we actually did that. Yeah, it's a nothing. Like the world knows that we went to heaven or hell. Okay, how do you market it? How are you marketing it to get to a billion hours? I don't know after I have to talk to Hitler first.

Like, what do you talk? Like, I need to know. Who the first person? I can't market it now. When I talk to Jesus Christ for real? Who's the first person?

Who's the first person you pulled up by? That's a great question. Who's a great question? Who's the first person pulled up on hell and why's the Hiller? in hell? Yeah. The first person. I don't know.

I don't know. Edit. No, no, no, no, no. We don't. We don't know. This is why going. You get these questions answered. We don't know.

You'll never believe who's up there. If there are any podcast that are hiring. You'll never believe who I just kicked it within heaven. I thought that motherfucker was in hell. This is what I'm saying. It might make you feel better, but Kanye kept selling sneakers. Yeah. You get so many answers.

You get so many fucking. answer. That's what I'm saying. I don't know how y'all just saying this Billy without even thinking about it. Who would you pull up on? That's an amazing fucking question. I'm like kind of thrown back by that question. To go to heaven or hell, who's the first person I'm pulling up on? The first person I want to sit down and talk to if I go

to heaven or hell, aside from obviously God and the devil. Let's take them out of it. And they're busy. I would fuck Lucifer. Yo, Rells never said anything before. He said Tupac. Going to Tupac first. Yo, you're really from the Bay.

That's some Bay shit to do. We love them to. You know, interview with Pock first is fucking crazy. Pock definitely doesn't have the answers to some questions I need right now. Who would I talk to first? Wow. Yeah. This might be the hardest question I think I've ever been asked.

I don't know. In the history of everyone. It's fucking nuts. Queen Elizabeth ass. I'm rocking her shit. Yeah, if we get two weeks, she's probably in hell. There's a bunch of people I would love to jump. In heaven or hell?

I'm beating the shit out of Queen Elizabeth with Demeris. I'm rocking her shit. Oh, she, I don't know, man. First person? Damn. That's tough. And I hate that. I don't want to make, like, the Hitler thing here, but

that was such a fascinating time. The conversation with him would be fucking crazy. I don't talk to your Irish. Hold on. Are we talking about, like, relatives aside? Yeah, yeah, like famous people. Oh, no, no, no. Relatives included, to be quite honest, I love my grandparents. I miss them so much. If I have the ability to talk to everyone that's dead and I have two weeks, sorry, Nana. You're not number.

No, I'm running past my grandmother. I have two weeks. I'm going to get to her eventually. You're like, there's J.S. K's 10 doors down. I'm going to talk to him. I want to talk to him. I want to talk to the first, which. I talked to my family. I had a great relationship by grandparents. We had enough time. I want to talk to JFK. Yeah. I ain't going to. Give me 10 minutes with Stalin. Definitely top three first persons I would want to

find and talk to. All right. Steve Jobs might be one of my three. Oh, fact. I want to know what he goes. Why? How do you keep telling these niggis the same work after death? You see the shit they could, that that hello vision shit they just put, they're about to put out? I mean, these are, these are beyond his. Yeah. This is all post. He knows. He knows. He knows. He died with some

shit in his head. He knows what. He didn't even know how to code. That's what I want to know. How you keep selling these things the same work over over. I don't have any purchase.

I have no, no questions for Steve. No, you bugging. You bugging the fuck out. That's insane. This Applevvvich. I mean, teach me

how to yell at people to make shit that's in my head. Yeah, sure. Probably a pretty good person to talk to. You got to sit down with Steve. He knows something that's coming. Of course.

No, Steve Jobs was a genius. He knows something that's coming. He knows. He knows what's coming. Am okay? I'm good. I'm good. up on it, but I don't know how soon.

He ain't your first up. Yeah, he ain't, not the first day. First day I touched down. Like, I'll throw him to do yo, ML, what up? I'm my holl at you. Like, I'm over here. I got to go over here real quick. We're going to chop it up.

Yeah. Pardon my white face, though. Ghosting him is crazy. MLK wouldn't have answers to things that I, like he. You want to talk to JFK. You want to talk to JFK. You want to talk to Hitler. Sure. And Hitler. Kobe.

Mok was. what else could he tell me outside of what he already told us? What is Colby going to tell you? No, I just want to, if there's a who I'm assuming there's a basketball hoop, I just shoot the ball and smooth. Julian going to go up there by, yo, so when the double team is coming, what I do? But that's also like, that's what I'm saying. I want to shoot some moves.

What is there, they can't tell you. It would be amazing to sit down and have a conversation with MLK. I just feel like any information he would have had, he would have said it because he's ill. JFK held a lot of shit down I want to know the secrets I don't think MLK kept secrets I want to talk to the people that have secrets I want to talk to one of Rockefellers for sure

yeah what's where because you know the raw childs have a whole wing in heaven well or hell you put a lot of people in heaven right now I just don't get what's the criteria for heaven we don't know because I'm saying

I keep trying to tell you this is why you got to go so then you begin to like yo what the fuck You're here? If it's by the Bible, none of us would be in heaven. That's what I'm saying. Okay. So that's what I'm saying, that's what I'm saying,

Julian, this is why the question is so crazy because you get all of your fucking answered. You get, your questions will be answered. You're gonna, people you think it are in heaven might not beat it. And you also know every religion has a version of heaven.

Whatever, whatever it is, they all have a version of heaven. The Bible does not dictate heaven. Yeah, Christianity. But this, and this is why I'm rolling with the, it's the youngest.

religion. This is why I'm rolling. Making it up as they go. This is why I'm rolling with the billion because think of your mindset. It's like an NFT. They're still making it up. It's an NFT of religions. Think of your mindset if you go to both heaven and hell. You go to hell. Hell is the hell that you're going to is your hell. It ain't like you're just going to walk in hell. Everybody else burning in flames and they just separate it for you and you just go to whoever's a little hellish little cell and just talk to them. No, no, no, no. You're in your own personal hell too. So whatever your hell is, you're in that bitch for two. two weeks.

I'll go to hell. Come back. It's a hangout. It's like a big room. You get to meet everybody. If y'all was to ask me, so what was hell? Like I'm like,

it's dark. And hot? And hot. And hot. That's all I'm going to tell, diggers. Like, yo, subscribe to my Patreon.

Oh, you know, my Patreon. Yo, y'all don't even, you're talking about a Billy. That ain't nothing. My Patreon going to wriggle off crazy. I'm going to sit down later.

If you don't come back here and do the first episode behind a paywall for us. Two weeks in heaven. Two weeks in hell. Sign up to my Patreon right now. I'm dropping next week. I'll break Patreon with that shit. You kidding me?

If I go to Heaven and Hell, it's not going to be Patreon. I'm making my own Wi-Fi when I come back. That won't be behind any paywall. You don't get smarter. You don't know that. Rory, really? Roy is such an...

You might have conversations with the right thing. You get two weeks to talk to everyone that's passed away. Two weeks? Read their fucking books. Like, read the... Just go back into the archives and shit. What's wrong with you, though? Get knowledge.

No. when you're sitting down having conversations with a JFK fucking the fuck is he gonna teach you you don't know Julian he might be able to tell you all kinds of shit this is why going and finding out is the fucking big deal or you could have a billion dollars and you could know that I wouldn't want to go to heaven because I know if I go to heaven and I have to come back to this motherfucker I'll probably shoot myself the next day like I know that that's going to fuck with my

mental I know that going to hell is going to fuck with my mental I'm not going to survive to be able to spend the billion dollars. So I'd rather take the billy. Some shit ain't meant for me to know. If it was meant for me to know, I would discover it in my life. I wouldn't have to go there if it was meant for me to know. I'm good. Take the billy.

I want to see it. I want to continue this conversation after taking a night to think about it. Because this is a beautiful conversation. I could think about it for two years. I'm still going to take the billion dollars. I'm staying here. Give me the fucking money. Oh, no, I'm going.

No, I'm going heaven and hell. That's my answer. But the conversation we're having. Yeah. I want to think more about it. Yeah. the people I would talk to, like, are you like... What, ball?

What if you take the billion, and you don't know that with the billion comes, you have to go to hell once you die? You don't even know that. Well, you ain't, y'all ain't put that stipulation on it. I'm just saying, making shit up. I'm just saying, what if? Like a Christian. I want to know.

I want to know what. You're doing the Christian thing. So you wouldn't want to go and just figure out what actually get you into... First of all, finding out just what gets you into heaven or hell is worth the trip to me. I think because I might come back and just shoot myself. It's all belief days. Yeah, I believe that I'm going to heaven. Like, I have no doubt about that.

I don't really believe in any of this shit. So I'll take the money. You don't believe in heaven or hell? No. A lot of people don't. It's a construct. All right. Okay, cool.

But what do you believe in? Like, you just think we just exist? Do you think that you reincarnate? I'm sure there's some spiritual. He believes in riot. Do you believe in reincarnation? Yeah, I believe in fucking women. It keeps the population going.

I don't know. Like, I don't, I don't know. I don't think it's, I don't, I don't, I think it's naive how to definitively people speak about stuff we know absolutely nothing about. So you don't doubt that reincarnation couldn't exist. So you don't believe in God? Not really. I believe in.

Okay. Not the, if a niggas shoot you in your ass when you walk outside the studio, the first nigger you're going to yell for is God. No, I'd probably be like, where's my mom? Yeah. Where's my mom? What?

I like to call my mom. I'd probably rather talk to her. Yo, yo, you know, getting shot in your ass and be like, where's my mom? What? If you hear this, I am available. What the fuck are you talking about? Can we take this out?

No, we're not taking it out. I am available. No fucking way. You got shot and you asked where's my mom? Well, because I'm saying I'd rather talk to someone. Less has happened and he asked for his mom. I'd rather, shut up, right? I'd rather talk to someone I know than close my eyes and talk to my fucking cell. I have some stories.

No, no, it's fine. Leave me. Fuck all you. Cliffs. Go ahead, Redd and have a feel day. I'm thinking I'd rather have a conversation with someone. Now I fucking woke up. Yeah.

No, no. Fuck up. I'm here. Fuck up. I'm going to miss my Rock Nation meeting. I'm with it. I'd rather call someone I know in love than close my fucking eyes and talk to nobody. What are we talking about?

All right. Aside from the fun we just said, let's not say the word God, but you don't believe in a higher power. You are that arrogant to think that we just exist for nothing. No, I think the earth, yeah, like I think the solar, the earth itself is very real in a living thing, in a living being. And I think we all obviously contribute to that in some way. and when we die, we become a part of that thing.

We feed back into the system that made us who we are now. Literally, we go into the ground and we become the next layer of fucking soil and trees sprout and shit. And I'm saying, I can agree with you that it could be religion is a construct, but to not think that there is not a creator. I don't think it's a white guy with a beard. I don't think it's a white guy with a beard. No, I don't think that either. Oh, that's Santa Claus.

Yeah, no, like no one thinks that. I used to think God was a woman and then I realized that periods will never be a woman's idea. A woman would never put another woman through that. So I know you guys don't support each other. Women are petty. They did that to me.

I don't think I just hate. I don't like this whole like it's just there's so much importance to the whitewashing of culture and religion and putting that superiority lens over everything. It's like everyone's white. That matters. I just, it's such a fucking fuck you

to everyone else. And then when slave masters would talk to their fucking sharecroppers and everyone in the field, they'd be like, you're doing it for God. They would throw that in their face. So it actually does annoy me a lot when I see a lot of black families. You're doing it for Jesus. It would be for Jesus. But they're convincing you that you need to do that because they're saying this, what you're

contributing to is bigger than you. Thank you're doing this because you're contributing to something beyond. No, you're using. They're saying that they're brainwashing you. They're painting this story to make you feel like what you're doing is. serving a greater power. It's serving them. So it's like, yeah, you do this for me, Master, and you'll get into heaven. It's like, no, bro, they're fucking manipulating you and they're treating you like dog shit to your

fucking face. Those specific people, yes. But that still happens, Maul. I know it's not slave labor now, but people are being beat over the head with religion to make them feel like they're contributing to something greater than they are. People weaponize religion for sure. I agree with every single word you do. I think religion is. But I also think they weaponize atheism. I can't even fucking say it. That is weaponized as well, too. to just convince people that there's nothing here. I don't think that there's nothing. Ruins what this really is.

We are a community. Socialism. Ha-ha. Callback. Yeah. For people to just think that we just exist, I also think is a manipulation the way religion is as well. We're not all individuals.

We are all here together and we have to work this shit out together. No, for sure. When people do that atheism shit, I'm like, how do y'all even, you think we just exist here? and we're all just one individual with our fucking, we're just worms going through the shit. No. No, we are,

we are part of this matter and this, this whole shit. Like, we are one cell. There's a middle ground. All of us are the same cell. Yes, there's a middle ground. I'm not saying I'm on the opposite end where it's the atheist where nothing matters

and we can just go about our business and die. I'm not, I'm not on that end either. But I think it's really, everything's going to be fine. I just think it's really harmful. And I mean, we see this in this country, but more so abroad.

Like look at what's currently happening in Gaza. All this shit is justified in the name of religion. No, it's not. No, it's not. But we're using it as a mask. Religion is always the mask to do horrendous and awful things to people. But religion is not the issue, Julian. You just said that religion is weaponized.

We agree. I know. I know. The religion is not the problem. The people are the problem. The father is my daughter. I don't believe in organized religion. If you take religion out, the people who are evil will still be evil.

evil and they'll find another means to weaponize other people's emotions. But I guess with that, for me, it means I don't believe in the systems that religion has created. So I guess that for me would include a heaven and hell. I don't think everything is so black and white. I think that's insane that we only look at these two pillars of places that might exist. Now do you understand why I ask the question I ask because then you get these answers? I don't know what you asked.

But in order for him to believe. Would you go to heaven? Oh, no. He would have to believe that it exists. Thank you. That's the thing. you're saying, would you pick a billion dollars or this just so he can get the answers? But even to believe you'll get those answers, he'd have to believe that that place even exists.

So he can't answer that question because it's like, no, I don't even believe that these places exist. So why would I say that I would go there? I take the billion dollars and call my mom. If I get shot my ass, I'm calling Maugh, because I know Maul got something in that little bag he'd be carrying. So you about to come out and help me. Yeah, I'm going to do it like, Denzel didn't equalize. I'm going to put some honey on it. Is that what people do to talk about me?

You're going to put honey on my ass when I get shot on my ass, not just, you know. With a wound, you got to pour honey in it. Is that a real thing? Until you get to the hospital. Well, honey, honey is like a, it cleanses wounds and things like that, but it's also a healing, like it heals and things like that. I'm not saying if you got a fucking bullet in your arm to pull honey in and just- Back.

Fuck the honey. Rory can put honey on my ass. Shoot back. No, it is. Honey is an anti-bacterial and anti-inflammatory. Yeah. You thought I was just freestown right? No, I just wanted to know why it would work.

He didn't believe you. That's why he looked it up. He don't look shit else up. He didn't believe it. hold myself back. I really, you're going to make me defend religion.

Look, are you still? No, no, listen, whoa, let's finish it. And I'm not going to do it. Let's finish this. I'm not going to do it.

I'm very, I'm delirious right now. Let's finish this. Let's finish this. Let's finish this on Patreon. He's going to make me defend religion. Let's finish this on Patreon. Shut up. Swing on him.

Let's finish this on Patreon. Come on a, come about a swing on me. Why are you going to swing on me? Wait, whoa. What do you put that? Oh, bro. Can you put that? Can I say what the fucking said,

put that clock up so you get started for Ice Spice. I'm like, yo, what the fuck he say fuck me for? Nellie fucking fuck your birthday. One of my favorite videos in history. I love that me. I'm like, what to say you can't fucking say fuck me for? We're going to finish out of Patreon, though, because I feel like Julian, he got some more shit you want to get off.

You got some more shit you want to go. I don't have shit to say. I don't know. We're going to get our shit off. We're going to get our shit off on Patreon. Everybody relax. Anybody chills just for another time, another day. On that note, thank you, everybody for joining us on this.

this audio expedition, this visual journey. Hold on, wait, wait, wait, you've moving too fast. How do y'all feel that the nigger bowl ain't happening? Oh, shit. I knew that nigger bowl wasn't that. But I told you, once I saw Lamar Jackson saying he hates competing against Patrick Mahomes, I was like, oh, they're done. They cook.

The lions. You can't say that before you go into one of the biggest game of your career. You can't say, I hate competing against the quarterback. You can't say that. So when Lamar said that, as much as I love him, I knew they was going to lose that game. The Lions blew it. Was there a clip that he said him and Mahomes,

it was like the goats going against each other or something? Yeah. He said that. So after I cleaned this whole studio up yesterday, I got back to my house, and the first thing my mother said at the top of the steps was, this is why he should never say Patrick's name. Ooh.

And I was like, wait, what are you talking about? I was like, said they were both the best. Well, you can't call yourself a goat if you don't have a championship. Let's be very clear. Actually, multiple changes. I don't think he said he was the goat. Well, my mom claims there's a clip where he was trying to say it was the two best going against each other.

Oh, no. And he's supposed to feel that way. He's one of the best in the league right now without a doubt. Actually, he might be the best. When you look at your 50-year-old diabetic mother that is having trouble even holding up, and the first thing she says instead of like, happy birthday to your daughter, is that don't ever say Patrick Mahomes name again. Yeah.

I mean, listen, when he said that- Mom, what are you talking about? She can defend her bir biracial king. Word. When he said that in the press conference, though, I kind of felt like they was going to lose that game. I didn't think, and I wanted them to go all the way. If y'all think Taylor Swift wasn't going to be at that Super Bowl,

y'all got Shauna Rhymes and the rest of the script writers fucked up. First of all, Rock Nation, wrote the whole script. Yeah, Jay-Z wrote that. Yeah, that's true. That's what happened. This was all Rock Nation. He wrote Still Dre and the NFL script. Still Dre.

I'm just saying, just like y'all know what? he wrote. It was Des was the one that set up the Ravens and the Chiefs. Yeah, Des. If you asked Tori Lane's fans, yes, that's what happened. While we're talking on it, this just popped up on my phone. The equivalent brand value of Taylor Swift has brought into the NFL and the Chiefs is an estimated $331.3 million. Taylor Swift brought that to the NFL? How? With just brand value in print, digital radio, TV, highlights social media. commercials. Commercials.

That doesn't shock me at all. Y'all niggas got... Since she first attended the game in September. You niggas got on my timeline last week and told me that Taylor Swift was digitally sexually assaulted. You know how many times I drew dicks on somebody's poster on the subway before? Fam, this shit's going to the Supreme Court, so you can say what you want. It's real. It's real because they're fucking idiots in the world now.

That's why. There was a case where a little girl was getting bullied because somebody made AI porn images of her. shit is shit i told you that you niggas put AI pictures out with conier would come on his face and nobody took that to the supreme court there was a case where a whole fan base for seven years photoshopped a broomstick going into a certain individual's ass and nobody cares shut i'm about taylor fucking swift this is stupid man this shit is stupid it's dumb but whatever but it's like y'all don't it's just y'all just don't understand that this can happen to regular people this can happen to No, I'm a regular. Yeah, no, I know. It can happen to it.

That this could be serious. And that's what conveys me. It's serious. Still, no one will hear me out. I don't. No one will hear me. I don't give a fuck about fake pictures. But none of us have gone through that.

So maybe it's because no one in this room is experienced. Yeah. You guys just don't understand. If you care and she's in school getting bullied over it, will you care? Taylor Swift is 30 and a billion. It's not her. It's not about Taylor Swift. It's about the fact that we're setting a precedent that this can now happen to other people.

It's happened already. No. just did it to Kanye last year. Nobody said nothing? Like most things it takes. Sometimes it takes something to happen to someone that matters. The big, yes.

Yeah, in short, someone that matters for people to make a change. This could be the case. Unfortunately, Roy wasn't important enough. This is stupid. How about that? This is just dumb.

If somebody do this shit to your fucking 13 year old daughter and she come home crying because boys is passing around AI, AI new pictures of her, you're not going to think it's stupid and it's done. You think I'm going to be like, yo, I'm taking this to the Supreme Court. And we're going to, to get these things wiped off of the internet.

Oh, you want them to remain on the internet? You wouldn't try to get them off the internet? It's not. It's fake. It's not her. Now, if they pack my daughter's real phone and put out real pictures of her that are nude pictures, then I would be upset. Words on my fake pictures?

Okay. Why we ain't outraged about these niggas when fake jewelry? I hate niggas. If you think about it, it's the same thing. It's the same thing. Okay. That AP ain't real. What is that?

P.A. that's not real come on your daughter's face yeah like same thing the fuck is that yeah yeah that yeah same shit that's the same thing it's not real it looks fake it's not real

it's not real it's not real so y'all over your daughter's it's not real so y'all that come is moistenate whatever that fake diamonds are cool you're fucking they fucking gave us they fucking gave us all of this fake

AI I'm being sarcastic I don't agree with them right this AI digitally shit this planet earth documentary on Netflix that I love that none of that shit real. I just found that out. Damn. All that shit is AI shit.

What is? Planet Earth? It's not real. Those images are not, bro. You didn't know that? Planet Earth is real. The latest one? Bro, they have a whole... Maybe the latest one. Bro, they have a whole fucking... A few episodes where none of those animals are real. Don't die on that hill mall. Because I tried.

I've been saying this has been fake as fuck forever. You already did say that... No, no, no. This latest one? This latest one? Every last one of the shit that was fake. Y'all don't remember when I asked y'all that one scene... Cameras aren't that... Good. With the polar bear on that one piece of ice in the middle of the fuck. I said, how the fuck did a camera get that?

Yeah, I remember that. Chilling. That right there. It's not real. Go watch the deep sea version of planet Earth. The episode where they go to the, like, where the Titanic is. Well, they can't get down. It's the great, like.

Well, they tried. They took, what's the greatest camera? They take a red camera. They take a red camera. They're looking at fish in the, in the face. I'm like, this is the fakes shit I've ever seen. and they have a cult following more because I've said this before

and their cult has killed me because I think it's the fakes thing on Earth. On the next Patreon, we uncover all of the fake AI images of the Planet Earth documentaries because I love those documentaries. I feel like I learned so much. A lot of that shit is fake. It's AI images now.

We're going to uncover that. We're going to uncover Julian's calling his mom if he gets shot. All right. We're going to bring it up again. And we're going to talk about if heaven or hell where would you go?

million because you sound like I want to have that I want to get over chest but we're going to get out of here I love I love ice spice I think she's great we love Nikki please please barbs please don't docks me please please please please

I'm just gonna clip it yeah they clip the bar part it's all good I don't love nigga I'll say that don't be scared Docs him peace we'll talk to y'all soon I'm that nigga he's just ginger peace no this is an IHeart

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