New Rory & MAL - Episode 240 | What More Do You Want From The Grammys?

Episode Date: February 6, 2024

We’re back after the biggest night in music. (0:00) If you subscribe to our Patreon you were able to livestream the awards with us and hear us react in real time (shoutout to everyone that joined). Before we get to the awards Rory shares some groundbreaking news regarding his family lineage. First we cover Jay Z’s speech which lends itself to a conversation about the agenda the award show may be pushing and why some artists continue to win over others (07:23) . Then we get into the winners themselves and go over the right decision & the snubs. In more scandalous Grammy news Killer Mike was arrested, Taylor Swift ignored Celine Dion and dragged Lana Del Ray on stage to watch her win. The biggest loser of the weekend may have been Adin Ross (47:39) . First, 21 Savage tried to scam him then Playboi Carti allegedly ran off with $2 million. Meanwhile, Drake is back on tour and seemingly takes a shot at Rihanna (1:01:50). Will Asap Rocky step to him? This leads us to thinking about the best “crash outs” in history (1:09:00) . Then Mal thinks this song is going to be a classic. (1:21:05). Speaking of classics, Bieber is back to harmonizing and we recall our favorite song of his. (1:28:55) It’s time for voicemails. (1:41:04). Mal gives some wild advice. We learn a lot about Rory’s future plans (1:50:00) . We close with prayers to one of our adult industry legends (1:57:48), the world’s largest crayon, Usher in Skimms, and the Knicks. Tune in as the guys discuss all of this + more!Opening song: 'Work' - Rihanna feat. DrakeFollow The Team:Rory - https://www.instagram.com/thisisrory/Mal - https://www.instagram.com/mal_bytheway/Julian - https://www.instagram.com/julian__nicholas/Demaris - https://www.instagram.com/demarisagiscombe/Merch: https://newrorynmal.com/Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/newrorynmalYouTube Subscribe: https://rb.gy/hk7up Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoicesSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Wait, that Dirk record didn't go number one? With Drake? Yeah. Once and needs? No. Last and a little baby. Oh, last night later. I don't think so.

No. I don't think so. No. Wow. Shot that shit at the Nike compound. Let's go number two. They were on jet skis in Oregon. Isn't Kevin Durant in there?

They were on jet skis of Oregon? Odell's in that video. So was Drusky. Everyone's in that video. Every Nike athlete. They shot a movie at Nike. That video is incredible. Anyways.

Hey, everyone. We're back. Number two. Rolling starts. How are you feeling, all? I'm good. Good. You know, getting unpacked, unsettled into the new crib.

Have you christened it yet? No. With intercourse. Oh, no, no. I'm just, I'm barely, I'm still boxes everywhere. I wouldn't even know where to, would it begin to christening it at. That's the perfect time to christen it, though. Yeah, but then once.

you like post-nut clarity and you look at everything that you still got to unpack you like fuck well then she helps you yeah she's like task rabbit with i don't know if i don't know if i want task rabbit box but okay well just think of it as a woman that helps you out after she helps you out not task grabbing rabbit rabbit rabbit move is thank you again to my guy anthony i need mcadis thank you very much just come to my crib and move something at this point yeah i need to get something out of this um but no i'm just uh just unpacking uh did that all weekend um watched a couple games and that was it we're thinking modern and chic what what style are we very very very modern very uh minimal I'm a minimal guy now like I'm I'm getting rid of like a lot

of shit that I have I'm just like yo I'm just at that point where I wish I could wear the same shit every day I wish I could like you know just keep the same aesthetic day in and day out that's my other palette are we thinking uh pastels no not you know walking into my We can see of pastels. Like Willie Wonka the chocolate factory when I'm walking? Kind of, you know, real like white, gold, black. Okay. Like, you know.

Cartelli. Yeah. Okay. Little, you know, keep in that family. You give me like red leather couch. God, no. God, no. You would never see it.

Maybe some cheetah print. You would never see red leather anywhere in my, in my vicinity. I feel like you got have a Miami Vice room, though. A white fireplace? No. Nah. Maybe a house, yeah. I would do a white fireplace.

It was a house. That's dope. My whole life I wanted to have a crib that looked like the crib in belly that DMX had. And then I became an adult and was like, keeping that house clean must have been a fucking nightmare. Yeah. Like coming back from a robbery after murdering a bunch of people and then. You're in a white house? Just irresponsibly sitting on a couch.

It's blood everywhere. You guys just came from the tunnel and had a triple murder. detectives won't have no problem solve in this case. Also committing a murder and then going to play pool by yourself is funny to me for some reason.

Yeah, you know, clarity. I don't like the all-white look. It's just too sterile. It reminds me of a doctor's office. You don't like the all-white look? Wow. Talk about change.

I know, right? I mean, with the big windows, it helps. Just this month? That's it? Just for the month, yeah. All right, cool. Get it. That's funny.

So it was just unpacking for the weekend. That was it. Unpacked. Watched a couple games. Shout out to the New York Knicks. Are we shouting them out? Of course. That was upsetting, man.

It was. And I had to deal with so much. Three of their starters is out. It's okay. That's something to say the Lakers is like, that's what they dig fumble and pressure. It's okay. They're sitting comfortable third place.

That's $500. Jalen Brunson is officially my vote for MVP this year, but we'll save the sports talk for later on. Yeah, I enjoyed watching the game. I had a pretty calm weekend. I went thrifting, which was fun. But the highlight of it, I found out that I'm a black woman,

according to 23 of me. Really? I thought you were Irish, Jewish, Ashkenazi? Yes. I thought I was 97% Irish and 3% Zionist. But I get emails from 23 and me that I don't put in like my junk mail. Okay. Because I want to read them. I get this on Sunday evening. You descend from a long line of female ancestors that can be traced back to Eastern Africa over 150,000 years ago. These are the people of your maternal line and your maternal haplow group.

sheds light onto their story. They just want me to buy some more shit so I can find out about my tribe. But it was nice to find out. Sunday evening, watching the Grammys. I felt snubbed after I got that email. Yeah. Really felt like I was part of it.

So you found out during Black History Month that you are a black woman. Yes. That's good marketing on their part. Oh, I like that. So now, like, what's that Kendrick Drake song? East African girl? Like, I can really rap those lyrics now.

You too busy fucking with you other man? Yeah. that's me. I'm too busy. Was that poetic justice? Yes. Okay. Yes.

East African girl. I'm like, I don't know if Drake had a record called that, but I wouldn't be surprised. Being from Toronto, I would not be surprised if Drake has a record called East African. He should look in. Maybe he is Eastern African.

Maybe you could be the video vixen for that, right? Since you're now in East African girl. I would have to check in with Britney Sky, who was the actual video vixen in that. She was. Shout out to Britney Sky. Oh, a friend of the show.

We love Brittany. She was. That's my friend. You're casting options for Roarie and Brittany Sky. I would have to check her. Like, I don't want to make her feel away. You don't want to see my joke. Yeah, don't step on Britney's talk.

Going from Britney to me is nuts. Yeah, that's a nasty video. I don't think Dave and Kendrick want to take the company that way. I'm cool. I think they're cool. But it seems like Grammys were the talk of the weekend, more or less. The Grammys are always a talk. Every year we say we're not watching.

We don't care about the Grammys. I never see that. I never see that. To support our culture and to, you know, appreciate our art. We say that every year. And every year we find ourselves Sunday in February, sitting by the TV watching the Grammys. So again, this weekend, another Grammy Sunday comes around.

And we are all sitting at the television watching some of our favorite artists. Either get snubbed, either get celebrated, finding out who some new artists are that we never even heard about. So, yeah. I enjoyed that we all got to watch it together. We watched on Discord live, and this isn't even a plug. This is just like I thought was cool. I didn't know you could watch the actual show in Discord while you can talk to everyone else on Discord.

Like now I want to watch every event. I want to watch the Knicks game with the Patreon crew. That was so much fun. We sat, we watched, and we debated. Even though I am an East African woman, I am here to ask, what do you guys want from the Grammys at this point? Well, I think that... That was the big debate in our Discord.

People were upset, rightfully so I understand. I'm team SOS, but what more do you guys want from the it's the Grammys? I don't, what do you mean? You keep saying this to Grammys. Like, what does that mean? It sounds like you're saying something,

but not saying something. They have to cover all bases. And I'm not saying they do an amazing job at it. They've gotten better and people are still honored to some degree. Like, they can't just go across the board with the R&B we like. It's the Grammys.

I get the outrage. I think Cizzer should have won over Taylor Swift, but I'm also on the side of, I get it. It's Taylor Swift. I mean... What do you guys want from the Grammys? It's the Grammys. It's the whole music world.

I think that Jay-Z speech was spot on, and I think it aged pretty well by the end of the night. Love Taylor Swift. I think you'll be a fool to think that Taylor Swift is in town, She's in a great artist. She's in a great performer. Obviously, she has an incredible fan base. But it's just, it gets to a point where it's like, okay, four albums of the year.

No other artists has ever done it. Stevie won it three times. Michael Jackson won it once. And these are just, you know. Can we pull up the four years that you just? She's one. It's album of the year, right? She's one out of the year four years in a row or four times.

Four times. Four times, not four years in a row. I believe it's four out of the last five years. Yeah, that's just, I mean, we could have the conversation. The Grammy Committee is a, is, because first of all, this is all subjective. Music is subjective. The artist that you like is subjective is whatever you like. That's up to you.

But in J's speech, he said, even by your metrics, if somebody wins more Grammys than anybody, they've won more Grammys than anybody ever but they've never won album of the year there's something wrong there is there I think Beyonce whenever lemonade went against I think it should have won I agree that Beyonce should have won

album of the year you think she should have won and a lot of other people think she should have won but also at the same time I'm not really seeing the point it's also a time cycle like Beyonce has put out how many albums now 10 9 we would have to look that up I'm thinking seven But all right, that sounds about right. In those cycles of her winning all those Grammys for songs, collaborations,

performances, writing, whatever. Maybe that year, four shouldn't have won against an album of someone that has way less Grammys. Like, it can happen as far as time goes. It needs to time up correctly, too. Yeah, but it's just, it gets to a point where, again, this is all, it's a, it's a committee. It's a group of people that vote. It's a group of people that come to a decision on who wins each of these awards. So it comes a point when it's like, okay, what are y'all trying to say by giving Taylor Swift?

Four albums of the year. No other artist has ever done it. Love Taylor, but she's not the greatest artist of all time. In my humbled opinion, she's not a greater artist than Stevie Wonder. She's definitely not a greater artist than Michael Jackson. So what exactly? are we trying to say here. You have to look at the league, too.

You could compare stats with certain players, but if they're in completely different decades, they're not very comparable. It's not like Taylor went up against Stevie in his prime and Taylor won. The playing field is just different at the moment. It's not saying that she's better than Stevie. Correct.

But she also has done something that no other artist has ever done. And she's not as great as some of these artists that never won or didn't win for. Even though I agree with you, that's still opinion-based. It's all opinion-based. And Gramies, for the most part, goes off impact, numbers, and audience. Where Taylor Swift has smoked all those categories for the last decade.

All right. Well, if we're going off- If we're going off impact numbers and audience, then Michael Jackson should have more than one to have more the year, correct? Yes. I agree, but what was bad going against? I don't know. It does matter.

It does matter. How does it matter? because there's no other artist that ever was as big that had a bigger audience that sold more than Michael Jackson I'm sure I don't care what year his album came out I'm sure that that Michael has been snubbed before but Michael had a lot Michael's competition was way tougher than Taylor Swift's competition is

Michael was going against Stevie and Whitney and that's who Michael was going against are you seeing what I'm saying? Like he wasn't going against Olivia Rodrigo and some unknown country singer like he was going against people that we, it was legends going against legends at that time. Correct. So yeah, the hill

was a little steeper for him to climb. Yeah, but again, we're talking about people that are just sitting in a room. This is not like this is a committee. These are people that are voting for this. So to sit and vote for the same artist to win album to year four times, you got to start to think that okay, there's something

going on behind the scenes that we, now now, again, love Taylor Swift. I'm not saying she's not deserving of album of the year. I'm just saying we have to start looking at the process of giving out these awards. Who's in these rooms? What's exactly going on? But if someone continues to dominate, you can't move the goalpost and be like, well, she's got it three years in a row.

Let's try to give someone else a chance. Like, it's not, it's not literally. It's not, it's not. But what I'm saying is at some point, you have to start looking at the process. You have to start looking at the people in the room. You have to start. Sure. Like looking further into this thing.

Because again, when you're as dominant as Taylor is, has the huge audience that she does, that, you know, has the touring resume that she does, incredible artists. And she deserves her accolades. And she deserves to be praised the way she is because she is a very, very talented artist. I don't want to take that from her. But when you continuously give someone album of the year and they got it four times. no other artists, and we do know there are greater artists than Taylor Swift that have come across this music industry, you got to start looking at shit just a little differently, like, all right, what's exactly going on here?

Like, why is this particular artist being pushed and being placed in this position when we know throughout history no other artists that not so arguably was greater than Taylor didn't accomplish what she did? Okay, well, I can see, because I'm tinfoil hat man, that there may be an agenda at the beginning of Taylor's career and some of the opportunities you got and what they were trying to push. I will never argue there. But that would just make the Grammy as part of a way larger scheme around Taylor Swift. I can't see a world where they don't give it to the most dominant person because we've seen them do that time and time again where it's actually been real snubs that they can't explain down to McLemore beating. Nothing was the same, Magna Carta, Good Kid Mad City, and Yeezis. all of those like to me that's just that that's a straight up like you know who the fuck was in that room moment now Taylor on the other end I don't feel that way because she's been dominant

she's actually dominant single category I know Maximum was dominant that year but come on this is like what do you do with this this is the Patriots and Brady like yeah it's annoying that they're in the Super Bowl 10 times but what are you going to say he wins if winners win

And I get it. They stole some signs. I'm sure Taylor has had some opportunities that they pushed for a certain agenda. But she continues to fucking win Super Bowl. And again, I'm going to keep saying it. Not saying Taylor isn't deserving. I'm not saying she isn't an incredible artist. She absolutely is. I'm just saying that when you start to see certain things happening to some artists

and it never happened to other artists that are greater than, there's a conversation to be had. I think the climate has a lot to do with it. and who you're going against. We've seen it with Drake. We've seen it with Nas. We've seen it with Leo in the movie business. Like sometimes...

Revenant isn't Leo's best film. Yeah, like... But he needed... That was the best moment for him to get the Oscar that he was long overdue. Because in years past, there were other movies that would go against him that at that time made more sense

to give it to than to Leo. And even though he's... He's drastically better than everyone in that category and his filmography is drastically better than everyone he's gone up against. that year, that movie was just better than what Leo did. Like every other movie that Leo was probably up against was like, uh, fucking there was that era.

It was like a slave movie. And it's like, well, he can't win the, you can't give it to Leo if like this was the movie that made everyone cry across the world. So it's like, all right, sorry Leo, maybe next time. And then he finally got, Revenant's not his best film. So, all right. So let me just ask you a direct question. You don't think that it's absolutely insane that Beyonce has never won an album

of year? I make, I know. No, because if you look at it, I'm sure there's a reason why they didn't give it to her every year. On paper, that sounds. I never said every year. I'm saying, do you not think it's absurd that Beyonce has never won album of the year? I think the year she should have won. And I'm not, but again, because again, we're talking, it's all subjective.

I don't listen to Beck's music. But that year that Beck won. What was it, 2016? I believe when Beyonce's Lemonade lost to Beck, that's the year that I was like, okay, this is. That's a snub. That's the toughest one for me to look at. Beonté should have won that.

Okay, so this is all, I'm just asking you a direct question. So you agree that she has been snubbed on you. So she at least, in your humble opinion, she at least deserves one. A lot of, but that's not exclusive to Beyonce. A lot of great artists get snubbed. Stay with me.

I'm not saying it's exclusive to Beyonce. I'm saying you at least agree that Beyonce should have at least one. One, sure. How many year. Yeah. That's all I'm saying. Taylor Swift has four. Beyonce doesn't have none

and you agree that she should have at least one. Yeah. But that doesn't take away anything that Taylor won. I'm not trying to stay with me. I'm not trying to take anything away from Taylor Swift. I'm saying that there is a conversation that needs to be had about this process, about these people that are on this voting committee

behind these Grammy doors because something is obviously going on. That's all I'm saying. And I just do want to make note that there were anonymous people who vote for the Grammys. Several of them admitted that Beyonce wins so often that they voted elsewhere the last time she was up for album of the year. Okay, so now we have that.

But nobody does that for Taylor. That's called voters fatigue. It's the reason why Michael Jordan didn't win MVP every year. He was in NBA. It's the reason why Yokic didn't win his third MVP in a row. You understand? So we know that this thing happens. But why has it not happened with Taylor's,

Swift. Exactly. This is all I'm asking. That's a better angle. And again, and again, and again, I'm not saying Taylor Swift is not a deserving artist. Taylor Swift is incredible. I'm a Swifty. I'm on record saying it. I think she's incredible. Well, it was a condescending sketch, but yeah. No, but I mean, I wouldn't said it if I didn't kind of like a whole bit with sarcasm. Yeah, but I kind of, I kind of, man. I think I think I think Taylor's dope. I think she's amazing. If I had an opportunity to go to Taylor Swift concert, I would go. But that's all I'm saying. It's just, it just gets to a point where It's like, okay, do I feel like SZzer should have won?

Absolutely. All the records that she broke with SOS, the numbers that she put up, just the replay value of the album alone. Flat out, better album, in my opinion. In my humble opinion, I just feel like SOS was a better album to me. And again, music is subjective, who you like. All of that is your opinion. It's subjective.

I just feel like Sizer had an incredible year and a half with this album. The numbers, the songs, the... It just felt like the Grammys were going to get this right and say, you know what, maybe have voters fatigue. Taylor has three. Let's go a different angle this year. Let's give it to Cizzo's incredible, incredible year. And again, they gave it to Taylor. Well, Taylor also had the numbers in the records.

She's going to always have the numbers. Yeah. She's going to always have the numbers. She's going to always have the numbers. But again, I'm just talking about, like you said, where's the voters fatigue when it comes to her. Exactly. That's my point as well. That's all I'm saying. You think because knowing, because then we know the politics of the Grammys, it's like, okay, if two, one award obviously outweighs the other, but if two kind of echo each other, we can give the person the nod in this category,

but hand the real one to the person that we know optically would look bigger for the Grammy. So what I'm saying in this case, Cizza won, yeah, she won a contemporary, urban contemporary album. So in the scope of this Grammys, I'm imagining the committee was like, okay, here's her. See, but see, Julian, that's, that's, that's like, I'm just, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's the doggy treat. That's the, okay, here, pat on the back here, good boy, you know, take your treat and go, but you're not going to give this person album of the year, but I gave you urban contemporary. And, and by the way, that is super insulting because, yep, SOS is not an urban contemporary album at all. It's not. It leans pop on the second half.

Absolutely. So that is 100%. And I can only sit here and think that they purposely gave it that feel on the second end of the album to say, you know what, let's put this energy on the album, just so the Grammy won't have this to say that, oh, it was too urban, it was too contemporary, it was too, you know what I mean? Like they even snooze. If snooze was from a white woman, it would be not under our.

R&B song. It would be a pop. Like SOS is very much a pop album. Of course it's R&B, but to just throw urban contemporary because Siza is black is super offensive. It's offensive. Like right in everyone's faith. And we know exactly. And we know what it is. And I just

think that it's okay and I think that it's time for us to have that conversation. We understand. We know what's going on, but it's like, hey, and again, which is why Jay's speech was so point, was so spot on. Because it's like, listen we're not saying other people aren't deserving we're just asking you to get it right that's all just get it right somebody can't have more grammies than anyone ever in the history of the grammies

but don't have an album that feels like it's purposely done that feels like that's not an accident that's not a coincidence that is by design that is by choice so there's there's a problem here and you know i mean this is the biggest night of music this is the the biggest night of entertainment, you know, whether we want to support it or not, it's just what it is in the culture now. But to Rory's point of what more do we want from the Grammys or what do we want, I just think that we want them to stop acting like we don't see what's happening, stop acting like we don't get what's happening, and just start to make changes, which I think they've made some progress in, Killer Mike 1-3, you know. So I think that they've

some changes, but let's continue to step towards making changes and getting it right. I think that's what we want. I'm not going to lie. I think they got it right this year and everything but album of the year. I'm not going to lie. I think I was watching it like, oh,

that's who I would have voted for. That's what I would have voted for. I think they got it right this year. Except, well, except for what, they usually get it wrong in every category. So for them to get it right in. If they would have given CISA album of the year, top the bottom, this may have been one of the 100,000 I would have no issues with any of the Grammys last night.

I think what would help would be if the committee, one, showed their faces, and two, explained the criteria for everything. So, for example, we're talking about Taylor Swift versus if you're going by sheer impacted numbers, Taylor Swift obviously wins. I agree that Killer Mike should win best rap album. But if you're going off the standards that we used for album of the year with Taylor and Siza, Drake.

It's not reflecting in the rap category. Yeah. That's where they're just, I think that's the real issue. They're all over the place with how they judge things. If there was a set criteria of why people are voting for what they're voting for, then I think you wouldn't get Jay-Z standing on stage saying like, hey, we want you to get it right because flat out, this is how we judge it. Can't argue that. Oh yeah.

Taylor sold the most, most impact. She's going to get the most views for advertisers. more people are going to watch this, Taylor. Then everyone would be like, well, that's fucked up, but I get it. Sent y'all are flat out saying this is what we're doing. But do that across the board. I'm happy, Michael won. I think it was the best rap album for sure.

But if I'm Travis Scott, I'm upset. Yeah. He's, oh, you 4.2 billion streams in an hour or some shit. Selling out arenas, I'd be pissed too. Yeah, yeah. If we're doing that with Taylor, why can't we do it with Travis? Yeah. the best or is it the biggest? Because like, for example, they have the record. I was just talking to

Julian about record of the year versus song of the year. When we were watching the Grammys on Discord, shout out of Discord, when Miley Cyrus won record of the year for flowers, I was like, oh, that's not fair. I believe it should go to Billy Elish for what was I made for because it's the better song. But when they break it down, they're like, no, record of the year is the song you couldn't escape. That is mainly for the artist. That's Molly Cyrus record. You couldn't escape. Yeah, you couldn't get away from it. But song of the year is more of a songwriter's award. It's about the actual meat and potatoes of the song. What is the song about? It's more of a storytelling award. So then I'm like, okay, well, Billy Eilish definitely should have won song of the year, which she did,

and Miley deserved record. So there's a clear cut difference in that. I just wish, like you guys said, the criteria for the other ones. And I guess like, is it more stable? Is it even more offensive that they try to like make up for it in other categories? That's, That's what I'm, that's what I'm, that's what they would say. But then I think that's more offensive because now you're discrediting what Travis has built in the last 10 years as a phenom in the rap road. Now we're discrediting what he's done in the urban space. He was nominated. So we can be like, oh, we got the killer Mike underground shit so we feel better.

Yeah. Like that's kind of, I think, an offensive route as well. Yeah. Because now you're discrediting black artists that are pop stars in their own fucking right, even if they don't make pop music. I mean, because Travis has broken records, has done phenomenal things, push the genre forward.

We're going to discredit that only in the rap category? I agree with you with Travis. I didn't like that album as much. Same. I think Killer Mike should have won. They're moving the goalposts in different. Yeah, is it numbers or is it? If you asking me,

quality, her loss was the best rap album in that category. I agree. Now, Killer Mike's mostly most replay value for me. Killer Mike's album was dope. But if we're talking, again, if we're going to just kind of sort of lean toward how they give it to Taylor.

Yeah. You're talking about touring, impact, you know, tickets sold and all of these other things. I mean, the Drake 21 Savage tour was incredible. The album was incredible. Yeah. This is Drake, one of the biggest artists in the world. Like, you know what I mean? So, again, like Rory says, we can't move the goalposts and make it convenient for the committee

when they wanted to be as far as how they vote. And I think that's all people were trying to say when we went to Discord talking about it. you know, Julian said, what did Julian say? Oh, she moved the needle on the economy and some shit like that. And I was just like, okay, but for who? Yes, Tor generated billions.

Like, great, but moved the needle for who? The parking lot of tenant didn't get a raise at any of those venues. The concession stand lady didn't get a raise at any of those venues. So it's like, yeah, okay, so she generated a billion. She has to pay taxes. Pretty sure her account is pretty good.

So, yeah, she did. But I mean, maybe how much money she made helped the debt we owe. She boost local economy. To then go to our inflation problem. Even if she moved a little bit, I'm happy. Hotels. You're talking. I mean, there's a lot.

But so does. But so did her loss. So when Drake is 21-0-2, you think that. Not to the scale. Obviously, all, yes, people are going up. Of course, not to the scale of Taylor. Each Taylor fan spent $1,300 on average. On average to go see her, which is crazy.

That's insane. There were people. of statisticians that went so far as to looking into hotels the weekend before versus the week's... But that happens with any... When Beyonce comes to town, when... The increase in the amount of money that was brought in. I mean, they did... The data

says in total, it was a $5 billion surplus to the economy based on totaling all the cities that you want to. It's tangible. I get that. But that's not enough for me to be like, oh, that's the album of the year. Sure. No, I'm... Because again, because again. That has nothing to do with the music.

So, all right. So again, because if that was the case, then Michael Jackson should have how many albums of the year? That's all I'm saying. So we can't bend and lean to kind of like, you know, make it justifiable. It has to be a clear, concise, like, you know, this is what it is. You're not doing all that without people wanting to go hear that album. I mean, when you have a, Rory, you know better than most.

When you have a built-in fan base like Taylor Swift has, Sure. Your album can be absolutely terrible, and people are still going to come out and see you live. Yeah, but they'll also be in that zone right now. Even amongst a cult fan base of this not being like, I'm a member of the B-I-I-F. I remember when there's been- I'm pretty sure amongst the Swifties, this album is not her greatest one ever. Actually, they think it is one of her good ones, but she has lost before us. Like, she's lost album of the year before. Oh, I would hope so.

Yeah, I was like, no. But she's also, she's also one more than anybody ever in Grand Prix. history. Let's say that in the same breath. And I do want to correct that. Sorry, Julian made a point earlier. Sizzle won Best Progressive R&B album. Yeah. It was not Urban. It was progressive. But they changed, like, I was reading it. Julian's right and wrong. So, Best Progressive R&B album is also titled

Best Urban and Contemporary album. This category was one of three. Newly created categories. They're trying to remove the urban word. In June 2020, the Recording Academy announced, no longer the master bedroom. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Renaming and redefining primary category. Its new name. The one where they didn't rape the slaves? Was best best.

Yeah. They were urban people. That's the old us. Yeah, it's the old us. We're progressive now. Calling slaves urban is the most contradictory thing. They were not in an urban space. Yeah, I just, you know, listen, man.

And, you know, not the, we don't want to stay on this too much longer. But, you know, I just, again, I just would like to see the steps in the right direction. And again, I think last night, for the most part, like Damara said, they did get most of it right. You know, the people that I think deserved it, got the awards. I just was really looking forward to Cizzer winning album to you. Shout out to Victoria Monet. Can we can't. Big night for her. Shout out to Victoria Monet. I was so happy that she won, she won a Grammy. She won three. Yeah, three Grammys. So deserving. A great year for her, great year for her team. Shout to D. Mile as well. Yeah. Yeah, I need to. Yanni got one.

Yanni. Yanni is Grammy Award winning now. I love that for him. I just, I mean, that record was like undeniable. I hadn't heard an undeniable record like that in a long time. Well, I'm my mama. Yeah. Like the day that video dropped, even if you saw like the 10 second snippet that they were, you know, promoting, it was like, oh, this is refreshing to have an undeniable record within the first 10 seconds that I hear. Like, this isn't going anywhere. Yeah.

So I'm really happy she was recognized. That record feels like she can have a Pepsi commercial during the Super Bowl. Oh, for sure. Yeah. Hell yeah. That feels like a Pepsi Super Bowl. Super Bowl commercial. So she won best engineered

album non-classical. She won best new artist and she also won best R&B album. Which is disrespectful because Victoria Monet is not a new artist. No, but they count it for your breakout year. I get it, but Victoria's been doing her thing for a while. She has. I mean, I feel like

Jelly Roll was snubbed, but, you know, shout out of the Victoria's family. White boy. We saw one shot of Ice Spice during the Grammys. I'm going to be quiet. Rory said, Rory hit me. Oh my God, Rory sent me a video of Ice Spice, right, trying to hug Beyonce. He's like, I told you the clock was on. I'm like,

Beyonce is just tired of hugging people. She's been hugging people all fucking night. She hug someone immediately after Ice Spice. There's another video that shows her hugging Ice Spice. I'm sure she's taking a photo with her. I was being addicted. Blue was more excited to see Ice Spice. And I ain't a lot, man. Back to Taylor, man. Jesus Christ. I ain't going to lie. I don't like the way she just had Celine Dion standing there, didn't speak to her, didn't say hello. That was a bad looking club. That wasn't good. Are you kidding me? Like, do you know who that is standing right there?

Yeah. That's one of the greatest voices we've ever been blessed to be on the planet with. And like you got her standing there like she was just working at the Grammys. And she's also been sick for a while. That was her first time seeing her without a wheelchair, without a cane. She's been sick for a while. Didn't even say, didn't say hello to her, didn't hug her. Her PR team, they got that photo after and put that on the internet though. Make sure that people, you know what I understood. I know, she spoke to her and she, you know. But that was a little like, yo, that's Miss Celine Dionne standing right there.

Like, you don't. That's a goat. You don't do that. You don't have her standing. I get it. You're excited. Say hello to your team and all that. She was surprised.

Yeah, no. She's never been surprised before. She's never one album in a year before. It was such a surprise. She dragged Lana Delray was nominated in that category with her. Yeah, that was weird. Lana was sitting next to her. You know, they're cool.

Lana was on Taylor's album. She dragged Lana up to the stage. And Lana's like, no, no, no. Mind you, Lana just lost, like her album lost. She's like dragged her up to stage and like Lana's like standing behind her all awkwardly. That was just so. I didn't even notice that.

She gives me. She brought her on the stage. I was cringing the entire time. Lana is like actively like pulling away from her and she dragged. Look, she dragged a lot up on stage with her. Lana did not want to. And then Lana just stood in the back. While you celebrate the album that beat out my album.

And we'll all do respect, Lana Delray kind of like birthed this like the new pop white girl. indie music and she doesn't get her things for it and she hasn't been able to because Taylor's success has been stomping on her for like the past 10 years. So, yeah. I didn't not realize she, that's fucked up. Yeah. Yeah, I just, again, and I'm going to be a dick if I just pull my hand back. Yeah, because you don't want it to look too awkward.

Yeah. So the point is Kanye was right. Once again. No, Kanye is the reason why we have, Kanye is the reason why we're going through this shit because when he did that, he made her a victim. and he made her America's sweetheart. He made her a victim when he did that shit. She was going to be America's sweetheart.

I don't think so. I think he actually made, even if she was going to be big, I think he made it just a little worse. He gave people someone to root for. He made her an underdog. And this is what we have. She was already at that VMAs.

It was already singing about how mad she was at the cheerleaders. And she wears t-shirts. Like, she was already. A video is hard. Yeah. I mean, I still believe it should have won over Beyonce's, but I know in my minority with that. one of the most iconic videos of all time.

I'm with Kanye. You thought that she should have won over single ladies? The video? At the time. They ran up a white wall. At the time, yes. Now as I look back, Beyonce's video has had a longer lasting impact.

But at the time, as a fan of both songs and both videos, that Taylor video was everywhere. It was huge. The single ladies dance was like... Yes, it was. But Taylor's video was also really big too. I'm just as a girl who was a

teenager at the time, I'm telling you. Well, congrats to all of Grammy winners, a Grammy nominees, producers, songwriters, everybody that was honored. Shout out to Jay for winning the Dr. Drake Global Impact Award. That's what it was, Global Impact Award. Do you think there was some contradictory statements in his speech? Yes. I like his speech a lot, but I fully understand people's...

Um, telling artists that they will be snubbed, but to still continue to show up. Yeah. Show up to the Grammys or show up as far as, like, keep putting your best work for? It was a little unclear, and I can understand why people interpret it as, hey, they're not going to get it right or please try to get it right. We're begging you to get it right, but we know you're going to get it wrong, but black artists, please continue to show up here. I'm not saying that's what Jay said, but I fully understand people interpreting it that way. Okay, so let's play both sides of it.

If he was saying, please continue to show up to the Grammys to the actual show, I can understand that as well. When you are deserving of something, sometimes it is good to show up to the show and sit there. Yeah. And watch them snub you and have to look you in your face and have the camera pan to you and have you on the screen. Have McLemore post your text messages.

Right, because then you get situations like people sitting down on podcast talking about it and expressing the fact that that person was snubbed or that person, they got that category wrong. So I think it is important to continue to show up. You want to, even if you feel slighted, I think that, again, and it seems like it's always with black people, we have to always have a certain amount of grace and class. And, you know, we just have to show up and still look good, even though we're being disrespected and not being, you know, appreciated as much as we should be. that's just a part of who we are at this point. So I think that that is important. And as far as showing up,

it's putting your best foot forward and putting your best workout. And being the greatest artist that you can be, I think you should always do that no matter who awards you or doesn't award you. I think that that's just something that you continue to do because you love what you're doing, you're passionate about what you're doing.

And being great is something that a lot of people was put here to do. So on both sides, if I understand it. And I mean, for the most, part in life in general, I tend to be in the gray area of a lot of things. I don't think everything is so cut and dry. I think you can have problems with the system but still participate in it in an attempt to change it by participating in it. So I fully think artists should continue to go to the

Grammys even though they do snub a lot of artists. But I fully understand the people that say pick aside, boycott the shit or shut up. Like don't accept an award, even though I think it's great that Dr. Dre has an award named after him and it's, you know, something that they're adding in. Jay Z got the first one, right? Or is what? This Dr. Dre. Gray Award? Yeah, I think so. Yeah, I believe Dre got it last year and naming the award and Jay is the second slash first real winner. Yeah. I understand the people that are saying, if you're going to make a comment about that, then go all the way with it. Say fuck the Grammys. Don't accept an award from them and no one show up to really show the difference in the impact if Sizz is not performing, if you don't

have everyone in these categories, if Drake doesn't show up, if Travis doesn't show up, if people that really move the needle in the world don't show up, Grammys is forced to have to recognize certain things. I get when people say that. So I understood some of the backlash Jay got in that speech. Again, I'm someone that lives in the gray area. I think it's great that Dr. Dre has this award so Drake can pick the people that he thinks should be honored.

I think it's great that they did their version of a verse swap. Jay Z's halftime show gave to Dre and then he verse swapped him for the icon award. There was a funny theory on Discord. I won't say who said it, but she made a good point. And it did make sense why it seemed like Jay was freestyling a bit during his speech.

That was supposed to go to Puff. And they had to change it. No. Why? I don't think so. he was nominated. As far as music goes, he would deserve it. I think it would be a huge moment.

For a global impact? Yes. I think it would be a huge moment for Dr. Dre to give Puff that award. I think the two of them on stage would be great. I think there's a lot of symbolism of where hip hop is right now that would be great for them. You know Puff getting nominated for R&B having the year and a few other things would have been all over that red carpet, would have been hosting the whole weekend.

It would have been Puff's Grammys. We know it would. He would have had all his kids. It would have been the Puff Daddy Grammy Awards. We know that because that's who Puff is. The only reason why I can't go with that is because it's not like Jay just found out last night that he was getting this award. No, no, of course. I know he wasn't like at home and they called him.

He knew three months ago that he was getting this award. And I'm saying they didn't really promote it. No. I think there was a bigger plan where Puff would have been promoted as we know. Shit, I didn't know Jay and Beyonce were going until Trevor Noah said it. I was going to say. And you said, Jane, Beyonce is going to like, oh, great. You could even tell based on the crowd's reaction in that opening monologue that when he said that,

they thought he was joking. So people weren't sure if they should celebrate or be like, or laugh. It was like, was it a clapping moment or was it like, aha? It was like very awkward. Someone when Trevor announced Jake. Yeah. Yeah. He was like walking through the crowd being like, and so-and-so's here.

And like, look over there. It's Taylor Swift. And look over there. And coming later, Jay Z and Beyonce, like, because they weren't there yet. But he said that. And people were like, is he serious? Or is this like a bit? He said, he was like, no, seriously.

And it was like, yeah. Yeah. And I do want to correct because I don't want to get killed. I misspoke earlier. Beck beat Beyonce's self-titled album in 2017. Lemonade lost to Adele's 25. Which I think was a snub as well. Adele thinks it was a snub. She said that.

I mean, but she's such a Beyonce fan. Such a nice person. Any category she wins over Beyonce, warranted or not. She's going to say this should go to Beyonce. Yeah. But 25 is my least favorite Adele album. And Lemonade, to me, is a classic.

I think that was a snub. And that, yeah, that Beck won was a snub because Beyonce, that was the day she changed the way that albums were released. That was the one with no promo. Yeah, that was the surprise drop with full videos for every single song. I should have won every single award

that was available at the Grammys that year. Yeah. But, I mean, thanks to Ed Sheareran, we get to see Merrill Streetmore. I never saw it at the Grammy. Yeah, it's awesome. Why are you thinking Ed Shearin for that? I found out that he's dating her daughter in real time.

Wow. Oh, I'll tell you about to see. Ed Shearing is dating Merrill Street. I was about to like, all right now. Hold on, man. What the fuck? Is it that far-fetched? Yes, that's very far-fetched. Isn't shared, like, dating a 22-year-old right now?

Isn't shared dating Amber Rose X? And that's sick. Yeah, there's something wrong there. You could put Ed Shearing-Marle Street, share Amber Rose's X, and then Dreia, her son and her new boyfriend. All at one table. Why is that sick, ma? It's the 40-year-age gap table.

Well, I mean, but they're... Why is it sick, ma? Well, because, I mean, people close to shared... saying that he's basically, he's using her for her money. He's like milking her for our money. People close to her saying that. Well, she might be, you don't think that share might like know that? I feel like once you get to a seren age.

Yeah, but I think that when you're like 70 years old and like you're just, you just want some companionship, like you'll become a sugar mama and just let somebody drain your bank account, especially when you have a bank account like Share does. And I think that it's the friends around your responsibility and family around your responsibility to say, hey, he's using my mom, aunt, cousin, sister, whatever. for money. We don't like this relationship at all. But I mean, I get which I get from the heart like what you're saying completely.

But if she is enjoying what's going on and like, you know, she's happy. Why does it matter that he's draining her bank account? Because he's using her for her money. It matters if somebody's using you for your money. But you don't think that she knows that? Yeah, but like that's the basis of the relationship. And she agrees to that because she's the one with the money. Then she's like, yeah, this works for me.

Yeah. That's what the thing is. And Nicole definitely married for love. That's what I'm like, it doesn't. Like, I get what you're saying, but I think, like, I think kids and stuff like that, mom, he's using for money. Yeah, but I'm having a blast. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

And it's touching me in all the right places and making me smile. You want to use me for my money too. You're just mad that he's doing it. No, no, no, that's not how that goes. You sure? I'm your son. I care about you wholeheartedly. This dude is using you for your money.

He doesn't love you. He's just using you and your name for fame, clout, and money. But what if she's using you? him for a 21-year-old dick and a good time. As your son, I still have a problem with it. I'm not saying you shouldn't, but she's an adult. It doesn't change. Yeah, she's an adult, but it's like somebody is using.

Anytime you're being used, if I'm your family member or your friend, I am going to tell you this person is using you, whether it's sheer, whether it's Demaris, whether it's Rory. If somebody is using you and I see it, I'm going to tell them like, yo, this person is using you. They don't care about it. And if my mom is aware of that. and saying I'm using him as well, it's a different conversation.

Yeah. No, it's not. Yeah, it's her money and her life. It's still not a different conversation. I want to fuck this guy and have fun and it's just going to cost me. But I still don't want somebody using my mother. I don't give a fuck if she's having fun or not. It's not using if it's a mutual agreement.

Yeah, it's mutual. It's still using. What are you talking about? If it's a mutual agreement, well, if that's the case, then one can make an argument that all relationships people are being used in. We're all using each other in relationships, whether it's mentally, emotionally, financially, we're all trying to get something out of somebody. Whether it's reassurance, whether it's love, whether it's anything.

But if somebody's just using you for your money, anybody that loves you that cares about you should tell you, like, yo, this person is only with you because they're taking your money. Okay, what if rolls are reversed? I can't speak. And your dad is 75 and finds him a nice yoga teacher that is straight up saying, like, all right, it costs this much to maintain my lifestyle. My dad is aware of that and just wants to pay this woman what she's owed and fuck her to his grave. He knows that. He knows this woman doesn't love him. So and Nicole Smith and

her husband. That was a problem. Listen, I side on the Lewis CK bit of when I'm 50 years old, give me a 40 year old. When I'm 60 years old, let me date a 50 year old. When I'm 70 years old, give me a 20 year old, blow me to the grave and keep the change. That's disgusting. Why? So that's how some people want to go out. Yeah, but that's still disgusting. You can want to go out like that, but it's still disgusting. I think it's disgusting. Yeah. That's all I'm saying. But if my pops wanted to use his money at the end of his life to fuck this yoga instructor and she just wants some money out of it and it makes him happy and they both know the arrangement, what do I have to say?

As long as you're happy, as long as my parent is happy and they're not in danger, especially when they're at the end of their life, like they're not looking to build a family. They're not looking for anything of substance out of this person. Be happy. Life is so, like, Once you get to that point and you could die within the next five years, no. Get your fucking back blown out, bro. Do what you got to do. I think it's fiscally more responsible than anything Aiden Ross has done in the past two weeks. I don't know nothing about Aiden Roos.

Me either. Can you guys explain it? All I know is Kajanat is the greatest stream ever. Shout out to the Bronx. I don't disagree. Yeah, I would say Kaj, probably. Hi, Kai. Shut up.

Yeah, Aiden took a couple L's this week. First, with 21 Savage. He had him come on and do his stream. and 21 brought marked cards. And they were playing a game. And he tried to hustle him on camera for $250,000. And Aiden caught him during the live stream. And it was a very awkward exchange.

And then, you know, 21 left. And then immediately posted something on a story like, fuck Aiden, you know, welcome in Atlanta. And then clearly, I'm assuming simultaneously, he was seeing on Twitter that everything he did was caught on camera. and then he deleted that post on his story and then it was slowly walking back

his feelings towards Aiden and then they were like okay well let's play 2K because if you beat me in 2K then we'll still honor the bet and then 21 lost the game of 2K so it was just it was bad and then he now he's trying to make a roll out of it

and selling playing cards and selling dice and all this shit but he got caught he was trying to hustle him so okay so it sounds like 21 Savage being from a certain demographic certain area in Atlanta London. Certain area in London.

Just found this streamer who was a suburban kid. And he's like, yo, fucking, I'm going to take his money. It's not like he just wanted to punk a streamer. Like, yo, give me your money. Also, like, has there always been honor in underground gambling? No. Yeah, it's fucked up. But welcome to the gambling.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I get it. You guys do legal parlayers on your fucking. But like before that, gambling. Before fan duel and prospects and all those other shit. Points for being shaved. Yeah, absolutely. Absolutely.

This is why you don't gamble. I think this is just, because you get fucked over. Aiden Ross. And I mean, I think this is just 21 Savage. Just like, yo, listen, man, I don't care about these streamers. Like, these little kids are rich. They just sit in their basement all day on the camera. I'm going to come in here and hustle them, try to get some money.

Yeah, this is hustling. This is what they do. Yeah, but it was just funny seeing someone get caught in real time. And then when they, you know. Look how you're looking at the deck of car. Yeah. Oh, shit. Yeah.

You try to do that in Washington Square Park. You can see if you, there's a moment, see if you allowed to touch those. There's a moment where Savage takes out a clean deck and then opens it, rips a package off and then turns to his, his man off camera.

And you can see the exchange of him giving him the deck of cards with the marks on it. So then he's acting like that's the new deck. And then this is the callout. And then 21, when he knows Aiden caught him, I think at one point, 21 goes,

what do you want to do about it? Yeah, like, what are you going to do? He's like, what should we do? When I saw this, I thought it was. staged. I'm like, oh, this is like, it gives stage to me. I lean on that side. 21, we know, is a very smart guy. He, he knows the camera saw him and his man's exchange that card. Like, this, I don't want to say it was like fake and one of those

sketch type things. I don't think Aden knew, but I think 21 was well aware that the whole world could see that he was scamming him and that was the joke and that was the fun in the entire thing. Yeah, I don't think that's, like, he didn't give him $250,000 on the spot? Well, the bet that they ended up honoring was a game of 2K, which Aiden won. So if that's the case, then Aiden would be up in that. Yeah, and I saw, I think he put out the 21 cent to him 250K bet. So what's the problem? He's just been making some interesting fiscal choices over the past few days,

which I think are all tied together. Yeah. Yeah. Playboy Cardi, which is Julian's favorite artist. I can't even one song. This is fake, right? But those that don't know, Aiden flew halfway across the country

to go meet up with Playboy Cardi, give him a $2 million deposit to come on his stream, Playboy Cardi sat in the dark for six to nine minutes, set high, and then left with his $2 million. That was the deposit. That was the first half. He was supposed to get four. And then Aiden stood ten toes after the 21 Savage incident.

and said nah I'm not giving you that other two million so wait he was paying Playboy Cardi $4 million just to show up to his live stream they haven't they were cool in years past

and this was supposed to be like a big moment of reunion so after the Grammys Cardi met him in a room the lights were out and it was a very awkward silence it was like Aiden at one point I was like how was the Grammys

and then there was just no response I don't believe this I don't either but I feel like that's how Playboy Cardi lives his life I don't I don't believe that Aiden Ross was paying him $2 million or $4

million dollars to get on live. Neither do I. Nor do I think. Like we got to stop with these numbers. We got to, we got to stop. It's bullshit. Like I get it. These kids are streaming well, getting crazy streams and all this other shit. We got to stop. You're not giving somebody $4 million to just show up on a cam and stream with you. That's not happening. Like, let's cut the shit. I love that these young dudes is getting money and they're doing that got their platforms and they do anything. But you're not going to just throw these numbers at me and think that I'm like, oh yeah, now that's valid.

Stop the shit. You're not just throwing two million dollars at some. because they're sitting on live screen with you. I don't believe that. I don't either. Not at all. Not for a second. So you guys are pocket watching. I'm not pocket watching.

I'm not saying how much Aiden Ross has or doesn't have. I'm just saying I don't think that he's paying anybody. I don't think nobody's paying anybody to sit on a live stream $4 million. No, for what? What is the, what's the point of it? And as much as I'm making jokes about Aiden Ross, there's no way that if he's given up $2 million, which I sure he has. without a real contract.

Yeah. He is not... Ayn Rost is an intelligent guy. Like, we're just making jokes now. That's why this is absolute bullshit to me. I think it's something they were in on together and thought it'd be hilarious and this would make more of a moment.

Let's throw some numbers around. Just show up in the dark and then leave. That'll be the moment. You know, Cardi doesn't want to talk anyways. This is his perfect way to stay in media headlines and not have to say shit. Yeah. And I really think he lives his life in the dark.

Like, you know, certain... buildings where the lights go on when you start, like, walking down the hallway. His go off. I think his go off. I think he, like, any room he comes. If he walked in here, all the lights will go out. He's nocturnal. I didn't realize he was that, like, big amongst, like, the young cats, like, the young kids.

That's how weird. Like, a lot of young kids I asked us, like, 16, 17. I'm like, yo, who's your favorite rap? And he's, like, Playboy Cardi. And I'm like, Playboy Cardi. The way, you know, we used to have the combo of, like, who would be the fourth after Kendrick Cole and Drake. And we'd thrown in Travis in there. We'd thrown in Futures and they.

Playboy Cardi would probably be that thing. He's that big. I just feel so out of touch because I don't know any Playboy Cardi music. I couldn't tell you any of his records, like at all. You might play something. I'm like, oh, okay, I know that record. I didn't know that was Playboy Cardi, though. But I don't, I'm just out of the loop when it comes to his catalog.

I really just don't know. And again, man, I just feel like a lot of these things too, man. Like, how does he tour? How were his shows? Crazy. Crazy, like cult following crazy. Crazier than Travis's shows. Yes.

Playboy Cardi shows are crazy than Travis's shows? Yeah. Really? He's like... Not production-wise, but how the crowd is operating? Yeah, it might be. Yeah, he's like, Travis is the more commercial version of what Carrey. Cardi's like the underground king.

That's not underground. But not underground. Is it because he's more of... Demonic? He's just more dark and like, look what he's wearing it. Like, he looks like fucking. Batman. So he has this mysterious... He's more resistant

culture. Like, kids attached to it because they feel like their parent, it'll piss their parents. He doesn't do social media much. No. No. And he's more like public facing asshole. Like he's got this whole like vampire thing that they're running blood aesthetic thing. It's smart. Like the marketing.

But what is this though? And this is this is not hip hop. He's one of, I wouldn't consider Playboy Cardi. So what is he? He's more Maryland, Maryland Manson inspired in terms of like, I would even say down to the closing. But he didn't start out that way. An aesthetic.

It's like a more demonic tizo to some degree. But he's also like rage music. He's also, um... Because I feel like when I first saw Playboy Cardi, he wasn't that. No. In the... He was more like ASAP. Yeah, so how did...

So how did it go this? He got a good cult from when he was doing more of the ASAP vibe, or ASAP inspired. And yeah, his music grew. He's similar to, um, a Tyler before everyone caught on to Tyler. Okay. Like before Igor, Tyler, where it was like, all right, we know of him and we know his antics, but if you don't pay attention, you don't see how his music has really changed and mature.

Like, I don't want to say mature is probably not the right word, but how he's developed as an actual artist. Okay. You remember odd future, and if you weren't paying attention, even though millions were, I don't think people realized that Tyler was the musician who he really was and how he really was. he developed a sound and changed from the 18-year-old kid that was saying, fuck school, kill people, murder, suicide. Playboy Cardi's kind of like that in the terms of if you weren't paying attention, you didn't see how he shifted his whole sound.

He's in a whole different category now. He's not what we thought he was. Yeah. His shit is demonic as fuck. Don't get me wrong. But I mean, when Kanye was doing those Donda shows, the one I went to in Atlanta, out of everyone he brought out, when Playboy Cardi came out, It was the entire arena erupted,

and he had a full, you couldn't even see that it was him. Yeah. It was just the sound of like one ad lib and the whole, this is at a Kanye West show, whole fucking arena lost it. He's done shows where he doesn't even rap. He'll just,

ad lib or just like sit on stage. It's like experimental with him. He's selling a, a lifestyle and a brand. You can, I don't care for his, no, but he's doing like, you're part of, you're part of something if you're part of Cardi's.

cult. the cult. Yo, listen, man, you know, I mean, if the kids love it, cool, man. I just, you know, I'm just, I can't, I can't, I just don't, I don't get it. It's also not for you though. It's not for you.

Yeah. It's not even really for me. Because it's not, it's not for you. Yeah, to me, it's, it's kind of what Travis, Uzi and everyone that kind of started out as resistance to the mainstream, Playboy Cardi is really who they think they are. He's really that. Okay.

And has a massive following. And I do quickly want to hate on Travis and I hate doing that because I support him and all of his friends. Is he really wearing shoulder pads on his tour right now? Travis? Yeah. Yeah, that's the problem. I could be completely wrong. But is that not, was he doing it before Tizo?

Because that's Tizo's whole thing now. I think he was doing that. I think Travis has been doing that for a while. Okay. Then I apologize if that's the. case, but Tezo's been running around with high school football shoulder pads on for the last year. Hasn't taken them off once. I know they stink.

I played football. They smell. After two days, they're going to stink for the rest of your life. Yeah. He's been walking around smelling like a locker room for a year promoting an incredible album, every red carpet. And Travis has the nerve to get up there with the same shoulder pads. His are just like D1 College Edition.

No, Travis has been doing, he's been weighing that for a while. That's been part of his look for a while when he's performing. I don't know, man. Someone that's younger than us. Yeah. Go in the comments. Now, now, don't get, now, I don't know if Travis may have caught Wenda Tizo before I did and saw his. Well, Travis has been a supporter of T. Teezo was on Utopia, right?

Yeah. Yeah. He's been a supporter of Tzo for quite some time. He might be right. He made it. If he showed up at the studio with the pads on, I don't know. That was a while ago. So if he showed him kind of like Jack style and took that and made it his own, I can't speak to it.

But I know Travis has been wearing the shoulder pads for a while. You think they were those outside of performing? like casual pads. No. I've seen Travis out. He's not wearing it. No, not Tizo.

I think Tizo wears out. Tito's about that life. If he's outside, he puts the pads on. I think he probably just to go to Target in his two-seater car has those on. I think he drives like this. Would you drive with them on or would you take them on?

Like how... You got to commit. His Tizo touchdown. It's a touchdown. Oh my God. I'd never even fucking connected that. He just broke the mold for you, huh? I never connected that.

Light bulb just, off. It was like at the end of Pimp a butterfly when you realize Kendrick was interviewing Tupac. Look at the Maris is so stunned. Like, yo, touchdown, shoulder pads. Yo! It's really art when you think about it. No, this shit is stupid.

It's just dumb. Let's call it what it is. What the fuck is that? You want to stay on performances? You guys see this clip going around of Drake and his words about how he no longer performs work anymore? I want to fit your hands. I want to start with a compliment first in the Drake versus Jay Z battle.

I think Drake's Grammy speech was drastically better than Jay's and summed up what Jay was trying to say. Now to the hate. All right. What? He reached like, they had the same message. They had the same speech, yeah.

Jay bit Drake. Oh. Hmm. Okay. So Drake started his, what, 15th leg of this. It's all a blur tour with J. Cole. Set looks great. They started in Tampa, naturally.

Mm-hmm. Two nights in Tampa. Yeah. It's sick. It's where Amar was conceived. Setlist came out. Work was on there. Because why not?

He had one of his number one. It's an arena show. The number one record has Rihanna. It's great. Drake added a song to his set list to tell the people that he no longer performs this song while it was performing. No, he said, I don't sing the song anymore. You can sing it for me.

See, I like that. It's kind of like, you know, I know y'all want to hear it. Everybody likes the record, but I'm not, I don't perform this record anymore. Let's hear it. I don't see anything wrong with that. Of course you don't. Wait, at a live show, playing a record that you're saying. We just said, I came here to watch you sing your songs, Drake.

Okay, first of all, we don't have these performers. Don't sing shit anymore. Drake does. We just said before we recorded, this is, it was what, Drake's second number one. So it's one of his most popular songs. People probably want to hear it. Then sing it. Sometimes if you don't want to sing it.

you can still give the fans that experience. He took, after he said that, he took this little the smoke gun. Julian, Julian, cut the shit. Yeah. What? Cut the shit. He's like, hey, look, I don't want to talk about this or I don't want to perform this.

But hey, here's this song that I know you like. So I'll play it anyway. So you guys can enjoy it. And this was during the DJ. I can play in my car on the way home. Stop, because you know that, you know his set. This was during the DJ part of his set where it's when there's the, he does that club run thing.

So he doesn't sing every record. Mm-hmm. But to make it a statement, make it a point to say, I don't sing this song anymore, but you can sing it for me. Well, okay, no, that's a different conversation. No, it's the same conversation we've been having since we introduced this topic. No. Why is he saying that? Why did he make it a point to say that?

Well, because of his current stance with Rihanna, they're not on good terms. That's all we're trying to say, Julian. But I still think it's nice that he gave the fans the experience to him. It's kind of like, I'll let you can hear the song, but I'm not singing it. Like, y'all can sing it though. Y'all can rock out. take it out of the settlers. I agree.

You shouldn't be in the set list. This is one of the... Because I can guarantee you, nobody at that show would have been like, yo, he didn't do work. Nobody would have walked out of this saying that. Yeah, I wouldn't even thought about it. But once it comes on, I'm like,

oh, great, I love this song. Exactly. So you didn't even need to play this. This doesn't even... If you feel like that about it, then future shouldn't even have it in his sorrata. Yeah. And don't tell me from your high little pigeon coop

that you're not about to sing a song that I paid to hear. Yeah. Y'all don't call it like, it is or not. Yeah. Because you know the real reason. Oh, I was going to say, I don't know the real reason. This is the gossip.

One of the few gossip things I really want to know. I know Drake and Rihanna obviously broke up. They've both publicly spoken about it. Drake's talked about it in songs. The 180 it took on this last album and how far Drake took it. One, I think ASAP is going to see him at some point. I really believe that.

I don't want violence, but I just can't see that not happening. And then for him to do this at his show, what the fuck happened behind the scene? Yeah. Like, maybe I'm giving Drake too much bail here because I know everyone calls him, he's light-skinned, petty, he's always in his feelings.

He has taken it to a place, point of no return. This shit he has said, he's not doing that unless Rihanna did or said, something behind the scene. Something happened. This is a different level of petty.

Yeah, something happened. Something definitely happened. Something was said. Something was done. Because now it's like, it's a sticking point. Like you're making it a, up, a issue to let people know. Like, yeah, no, I don't fuck. I don't even perform the songs that we have no more.

Like, that's how far I'm trying to move away. And it's like, I don't. And it's like, but why? Like, what the fuck happened? And why does it even have to, like, even if, I'm just, we're keeping a buck. We don't know the reason. We want to know. It has to be something crazy.

Of course, we don't. Of course, we don't really know the reason. But, like, there's no reason that really warrants this. You did this because you're corny. Not because of anything that she did. Whether she did something or didn't do anything, this is corny. And it's fucking unnecessary. And you knew that it was going to become a moment.

You know they hang on to every single word you say at every show. So it's unnecessary. You did it knowing what it will become. So that lets me know that maybe she didn't really do anything to him. Maybe he just hurt or embarrassed. She had them kids. She don't want him. Maybe it's ego.

Who knows? He had a kid first though. Yeah, but. Oh, come on. Yeah, but I'm just saying. Men versus women. Yeah, but if you have a kid, he could have 50 of them. You got a kid.

Yeah, but I mean, I think, I don't know. It's definitely something that we don't know. Obviously, some personal shit that happened or was said. And, um, you know, I just, now it's like, it's part of the set now to where it's like, you know, now, I don't do them records. Like, damn, like, that was a, that was a bop, though. That was a jam right there. You ain't going to do that, but okay, fuck it.

But again, I, you know, that's personal, private shit. I'm sure at some point, though, we will see, like, it's going to come to a head, though. Like, something is going to, because once Rihanna decides to snap back and, you know, you know, she's going to go all the way. that Caribbean blood she's gonna go all the way like she's gonna air out some shit we're gonna be like damn I don't think we needed to know a lot but I don't see her doing that now

shit I don't see her doing that now shit but even on um the deluxe for all the dogs the red button record he addresses um the whole shit should hit you first but sis you know about the shit I've taken if you go through that whole scheme

it is referring to that verse that he went all the way with it on Rihanna and ASAP and that entire thing. Yeah. So when he says in the deluxe, should have hit you first, but sis,

you know about the shit I've taken. I feel like Drake has probably been quiet about some wild shit that we don't know about. Possibly. There's definitely some... Maybe I'm giving them too much mail. No, no, no. There's definitely some personal shit

and, you know, the shit that I really don't care too much to talk about, but I do think we're going to see it go to another level. What could Rihanna do to... Have y'all listened to that song lately? Which one?

No, whatever the name of the song is that he went crazy on Rihanna. Red Button? No. It's on for all the dogs. The original. I forgot the name of it because I don't really listen to an album like that. I'm terrible with titles anyway. He went nuts.

What could Rihanna have done? We don't know. We don't know. That's all I'm saying is we don't know. Let's not even start speculating. We don't know. And I think that, like I said, if Rihanna decides to ever respond, I think that it's going to be crystal clear about what happened or what's going on. because I don't think that she's going to, she ain't going to give us no metaphors and similes.

Like she's going to give us a cute little harmony and then she going to ad lib. Exactly. He might rap. Yeah, yeah. She going to give it to us like straight up. Like so. He responded to her on Fear of Heights and Virginia Beach. Fear of Heights is what I'm talking about.

Yeah. Was it needed me about him? Maybe. I've, yeah, I don't know. Needed me? I didn't like catch any specific snubs, but maybe they could have speculated there. All I know is, I mean, Rocky is innocent. Until proven guilty.

He's innocent. But I don't know if I talk about somebody's wife and baby mother that way if they're on trial for shooting their mans. Like, that's probably not the person I'm going to play with. But this is Drake, though, man. I mean, that's not saying nothing. Like, what is that going to say? Like, you can't get close to Drake.

You act like Drake is a niggins. that'd be out here with riding the A train. Like, you ain't getting close to Drake. Okay. He moved like the president. I agree with you. But you also have to think of ASAP Rocky being the celebrity that he is to be accused of and be on camera in a regular L.A. street with a gun shooting his man's.

Like, that person might be ready to crash out no matter what security is there. Yeah, but you're going to crash. Yeah, but crash. Like that guy is a little off. I get it. And you tell my- Shout to Rocky. because he's innocent.

Yeah, you're talking my wife and all of that. Like, I get it. You're supposed to crash out of wifey, but. Like, it's tough to get to Drake. If you want to crash out, you could find a way if you're a stab rocket. Yeah, but you can't. Not me. I couldn't crash out and get dropped.

I would get stopped by 15 people before that. Yeah, but you crashing out against a guy that moves like the president is just not a smart crash out. Well, nothing about crashing out as smart. That's the point of it. No, sometimes you could crash out and be that. It's a successful crash. No, that's just a successful crime.

What's a successful crash? Crash out is. If I say, oh, you know what, I'm about to air this shit out. I'm about to, I see a dude, I got beef with. I'm about to pop at him, right? Successfully means I bust at him. Didn't get caught. Didn't get caught.

Got away from it. You throw at Drake, bro, you're not leaving that scene, bro. Yeah, that's like a, that's a, now, yeah, that's a suicide mission. That's the point of crash now. No, that's fully crushed out. Yeah, no, but that's-the Japanese tried to teach us. Yeah, yeah, but that's, that's like, that's just not smart. I don't, I feel like they're so old now.

It's like crash, he's fucking stupid. Crashing out. When you crash out sometimes. We just compare crashing out to To Kamikaze. Just compare Harkas? Yeah. That's the definition of a crash out.

And now you're at war with us. I mean, 9-11. With Ben Affleck. Crash out. Yeah, it was inside job. What's the wildest crash out of all time? The wildest crash out of all time? I'm pro-harbour would probably be crazy.

That's a lot of crashes. I ain't a lot of salons in the elevator. That crash out was crazy. You think it was crazy. She popped on Jay. Salonzo was in there crashing out on Jay Z. At the standard. That's not crazy to y'all.

She was in that elevator going crazy. You ain't help him? I wasn't there. And I still, I think Jay handled that the best he could have ever handled that. Like, because he handled that because I don't give him enough. Yo, we don't give Jay enough credit for how he handled that. That niggas from Marcy Projects, yo. He's so crack rock.

like he he shot his brother like you're talking about crashing out like you understand what I'm saying like that shit could have went another way like but could it really he stabbed on after hard knock like because it's Jay it's his sister that's his sister listen you see what I'm saying but because it's Jay that's his sister-in-law you know he had to wear with all to understand I cannot go but so far on this elevator I can't put my hands on her like that definitely that's off the table I know some dudes that I asked them about it, they're like, shit. Yeah. I'm talking about unanimously dudes be like, yo, I would have

slapped the shit out of shoulder. And I'm like, even if that was like, you're Jay-Z, like, all you have to lose, they're like, yeah, she was hitting me. She's kicking me. I'm like, bro, you can't do that. Like, you would have lost everything. That would never hit a woman, but saw that scenario and was like, I mean, you got to protect yourself.

Yeah, that, nah. Now, every, like, the guys that I talk to about that, they all said, like, that's his, it's your sister she was going crazy on that nigga it's your sister and he knew that she was well allegedly he knew that she was justified so what you're gonna do you're gonna beat up your sister-in-law while your wife's standing right there whether he's j-z or not i'm not i'm not saying that he handled that with perfection he was grabbing her he was yeah but he was yeah but he was just

standing there getting beat up yeah but i'm just saying i know listen i'm from a town i'm from a city big rich town i'm from a block where yo niggas have swung on girls for less stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid what would you have done i would have handled it do the same way jay did yeah i would have grabbed her arms and try to like restrain her and like you know what i mean like like i would i definitely i'm not i wouldn't i wouldn't put my hands on that's a long elevator ride because that happened as soon as they got on and they were on the 18th floor yeah you know ass beat for 18th floor that they have a lot to think about if i know julius is the security guard there i might i might just do this yeah or i'd yell corners just to make it seem like a

game. No, no, no. He can't do that. And it was so smooth because had this video not come out, we would have never known to happen based on the pictures when they got off the elevator. We would have never known none of this shit happened. That's what I'm saying? Like, Jay handled himself to, you know. Getting popped on in a white suit sucks. Yo, you know, that's how you know whatever Jay did, he was wrong because Beyonce stood just like this. And let them tussle. She ain't do shit. She ain't telling me sister to stop. She was chilling. Yeah, that's, that's bad, though. And then she tried to, this was, I think the one time Beyonce trying to clean something up and we all just gave her the side of.

Of course, sometimes shit go down when it's a billion dollars on an elevator. It's a good bar. Great bar. But nah. Great. No, it's a great bar because it's fact. It's fact. Sometimes shit happens.

You know, this is family. This is my sister. This is my husband. You know, my sister was mad about some shit. She's holding me down. My husband handled herself with as much class and grace as he could in this situation. and now all this we got off the elevator

we still was head hell high classy nobody even knew I wonder if the fight kept it up in the once they got in a limo like I wonder if she doubled back nah they probably got in different cars they just in different cars yeah Julius is like a Navy seal

there's no way he probably just snapped in a car existed yeah he's going in this one yeah same city same night you know shit is going to go down when there's a billion dollars in an elevator versus

I wasn't hiding my kid from the world that was hiding the world from my kid. A Billy. A Billy. Easy. I think that's a better bar? Absolutely. It's a real bar.

You don't think Drake was hiding his son from the world? Oh, not bad. Okay, cool. But I'm just saying, like, these are two of the biggest stars ever, both worth over a billion dollars. Like, nigga, that's a bar. Also, he wasn't hiding the world from his son

because his son has a music video. I can go and Google it right now. Well, now, I mean, yeah. During the time, it was, yeah. No. It was capped. It was capped during the time. No.

In retrospect, at the time it did not work after, Drake, you were hiding a child. And then we got that, like, a few months later was like, all right, man. In retrospect, I thought it was a pretty good response. Yeah. I mean, I didn't see that. That's why in that whole thing, I didn't understand that bar anyway, because I was just like, does he have to tell us he has a kid? You didn't see the, you didn't see the scheme. He was talking about all the miserable people on the internet and all the women.

Of course. And he was suggesting, guys, this is why I was hiding my kid from the explore page. Of course. You get it. I get it. I got that. I understand that. I understand that.

But even in the moment, you lived it. I didn't understand why people was like, oh, yeah, like, why are you hiding your kid? I'm like, do you think that somebody has to take? I know regular people that don't post their kids on the internet. You've never seen their children. I'm telling you now, I was straight up hiding a child. and not hiding her from the actual world. Amara was out all the time.

I didn't hide her from the world at all. No, social media world. Yeah. But I was hiding her. Yeah, I get it. But that's not from the world. I understand that, though. I understand that people, you know, this world is sick, man. So hiding a child is kind of stressful.

Is it? It ain't bad. Everyone in what I thought was the inner circle knew. But then, like, you have to tell other people that other people don't know. and then like when you reveal it people get mad at you that you didn't tell them and it's like we haven't spoken in a year why would I then text you

they get mad at the people who did know yeah because everyone knew that wasn't the world yeah you but your world the people your world know everyone knew yeah for months before that's why I always tell you though some people thought they were part of my world

yeah no and you're not you're not and that's fine but like now it's again like I always say it's you're looked at as moving weird or moving funny when you're private. Yeah. Like when you keep certain things private, it's like, oh, you acting funny. It's like, no, I'm just not sharing that with everybody. Like, that's not for everybody to have.

And it's okay to have certain things that you keep to yourself. I don't see anything wrong with that. Outside of like associates being upset, I did never talk about like when I would just go out with Amara. And, you know, we run into listeners, fans, whatever, when we go out, just. Target. Listeners adding it up in their head before I'd, like, told the internet was one of my favorite hobbies anytime I went in brand errands. Because she looks identical to me.

She's red hair. Our faces are the same. And it looks like, yo, man, love the pop, fuck with you, you know, small talk. And then just like looking down at me pushing a stroller of a little, a little identical version of myself. And then they would always have like the respect not to ask, but I could see it in their face that they were adding some things up. I'm not going to lie. I hated that face.

Because there were like, we would go to concerts together and people would see like you. Then they'd look. They'd look at us and then see the stroller. And then it's like, there was like, I was like, just say it. Like just and then there was like, oh, can we get a photo? And then I didn't know

how public you wanted to be. So it was like, do we stand in front of the stroller? It was just like a lot of like, I don't know how to act in public. Julian, I had to wait to use her for my album. And so it has sales, duh. The album's most important. So I was like, let's put Amara in the green room.

I just, you know what it was. By herself. It was a time. Until the album comes up. Until the album comes up. There was a time where I didn't understand what Rory was doing, though. He was like very confusing to even me and that time. Like when we had a show, like he brought Amara out on stage and then said, I would appreciate it if y'all didn't take pictures and post on the end of that.

I'm like, Rory, that doesn't make sense to bring somebody on a stage in a room full of people and say, yo, don't. take a picture and don't. That's asking way too much of people. Look at the verbiage of what I said. I'd appreciate if you guys didn't. I knew me bringing Amara on that stage. Someone was probably going to take a photo and I was fine with that. But I can say I'd appreciate if you guys don't.

If they do, I don't care. But none came out. Did he come out ever? No, no. You guys' fans really love you guys. I had, and then. I had Amara on Discord video yesterday. Yeah.

It's just for huge public consumption that I just don't put it. Like, she doesn't sit on my lap for the podcast. No, I understand that part. I'm just saying the bringing the kid on stage and then asking of people not to do something, something that I wouldn't do because I just don't think people are that willing to not do what you at? Well, I mean, you are correct. That's all I'm saying. Like, I was just like to avoid this?

No, I'm not doing that. That's all. And then even then, like what? One person snaps a photo and. No big deal. To sell it to TMZ. Yeah, like we're not that famous. Yeah, no.

Circling back to something that DJ Clue tweeted, Was it last week, Julian? Yes. So he tweeted, he asked a question, he pulled a question, do we have a hip-hop classic since 2020? And you came in, we talked about it, but you came in today. And, you know, just listening to music and things like that over the weekend. And I think I may have found the hip-hop classic since 2020 that maybe people haven't noticed yet. We're on the edge of our seats.

Taylor Swift. I think that First Person Shooter First Person Shoot is a classic Drake and J-Cold I think that's recency bias Yeah

The song is not that recent It's not that recent It's extremely recent When did that album come out First First First First First First Shooter mode came out Like what? Three months ago

Four months ago Yeah October And that's October Oh well All right You want the other

That's not really What Klu was Getting at like do I think that has potential to be a classic hip hop song for sure but clue was talking about something like along the lines of all about the benjamin's dreams and nightmares something that plays everywhere no matter what year it is I think this is that record I haven't even heard it once since it came out in like a party you said you haven't heard it in a party it's not really a party record what it's a it's a potential to be a classic hip hop song but

you would put this like the way they put all about the benjamin's in every dj set no matter what you think first person shooter in 20 years is going to be like in a set from this era absolutely okay song's only like three months old by the way i'm with it's potentially be a classic quality song but i don't know of like i agree with you i think this is i think this is a i think this is a great performance record i think it's a great party record video it's different energy it's it's about two three different types of energy you guys it's it's about two three different types of energy you on the record, great rapping on the record. It has a lot of call and response moments on the record. I think that this is, to me, this is a classic hip hop record. And I know it came out October, five months, whatever. Like, it's so it's, it's not a year yet, but I think this is a record that people, and in, in 10 years, I think you play this record, you get the same response.

Really? Yeah, absolutely. I just think what clue is talking about is has to be a either at kickback, your car, strip club, real club, shows like, this plays everywhere.

I haven't been in the strip club since. They're going to shake ass to this in the strip club. Really? They're going to play this at, absolutely. Okay. I haven't been in the strip club since. Yeah.

I was going to say, especially when the beat changes on Drake's verse. We can go on D.C. Absolutely. 100%. 100% this goes off in the strip club. Now, I haven't been to a strip club to see it.

But that energy in the beat change with Drake's verse coming in, that baseline, that's absolutely strip club shit. Definitely. I'm not, I mean, I'm not against the opinion. I think so. I think this is it. We're going to win. 10 years from now, we can circle back to this and play it and listen.

But I think the younger generation, when it's their time to party, the way I was, I don't know. I think anybody that's... Seven when all about the Benjamins came out. I think anybody that's... When I was 22, we were listening. to it at the party. I think anybody that's 21 now, 22 years old now,

when they're 32 and this record comes on, they're going to have the same. Oh, I agree there. I'm talking about the kids that are 10 years old now when it's their time to party, will this be played? No. The same way it was with me when I was 10 years old

when all about the Benjamins came out. Or like international players anthem. It's like I was a child and I didn't know. And then now, like, that's all, every party I go to. That song always goes up. I think first person shooter is that. I think it has that same energy

for sure. Now again it's fairly new, only a few months old so people may not feel that yet. But in listening, because when it came on, I got that, I was like, this record is really good. This is a really good record. And it has all the elements to me of what it doesn't sound

like a dated beat. The music doesn't sound dated. It's like that drum, that bass. Three months old. No, but I'm saying it doesn't sound like it came out you know, a year or two, three, four years. It doesn't come out, sound like came out yesterday.

You can play that at any time and it would sound that good. I know you're going to call me crazy and kill me. I think Rich Baby Daddy will last longer than first-person shooter. If we're talking about it. It hasn't already. Huh? It hasn't already. What do you mean it hasn't already?

It definitely, I hear Rich Baby Daddy way more than I hear first-person shooter when I'm outside. You hear first-person shooter when you're outside? I don't hear first-person shooter. I don't hear first-person shooter. I don't hear first-person shooter. I'd have to agree I think I hear Rich Vibody Daddy more I don't hear

I like race baby daddy I hear people play like like for example if we're in a car Was Rich Vibody again How does that go Been that ass over What's the chick ass for Drake

Crazy Oh well that's because that's a That's a flip on an old record Hands on your news Like everything But no That first person shoot is not a flip on old record That's true

Exactly I mean I know Clue said hip hop But water I think outlasts everything we're talking about. Tyler? Yeah. Yeah, but I think that's a fad. I think water's going to go away.

Really? Mm-hmm. I think that's... Maybe I'm out of touch. I think that's a song that's going to be around forever. I hate... Not that I hate the record. I just cannot listen to that record.

They play that shit. Anytime I'm... It's inescapable. They play that song every fucking where. Everywhere. You go to Allo to get some fucking yoga sweat suits. You go to fucking... Anywhere you go, water comes up.

Make me east. sweat. I'm like, God damn. You ever get in the car that song is playing? Get out the car. That song is playing. Get back in the car. It's coming right back on. I'm like, yo, dog, I get it. Good song. Happy for Tyler. She, her only

award ever in her life is a fucking Grammy for that record. Great record. Great song. Happy for Tyler. But it's a such thing as, yo, I'm tired. I cannot hear that song. That's how my sister feels about I'm a mama though. My sister feels like that about I'm a mama.

Really? She can It is everywhere, but not the way water is. But this happens with records. It's inevitable. I'm glad it's a record like water. Yeah. Because that happens with records that I'm like, I'm like,

Oh, what the fuck? This is a beautiful, soulful song. Yeah, that happens with records like moves like Jagger. Oh, God. How many fucking times could I hear that if I hated that song? Moves like Jagger. I got the moves like Jagger. I got the moves like Jagger.

Yeah. Who was that? What was that? I hated that right. You know what it started out as, and this is why I know I like water, when Justin Bieber said he got his peaches out in Georgia, loved it the first time. That song drives me fucking nuts now.

Yeah, that. Everywhere out of it. It's a fire record, but it's one of those. Great record, but I don't hear. I have not heard that record nowhere near as much as I hear water. You guys speaking to Bieber. Get the water? Water is on.

Every 14 minutes on the radio. Every 14 minutes, Waters playing. That shit is like, I get it. Great. But come on, man. You know what was like that when it came out? Remember, I like it by Cardi B and Bad Bunny. Oh, my God.

It's a great song, but they, we couldn't escape that shit for like a year. Speaking of another B-Roeing on an old record. You see, he did a cover of Siza at a recent show. First performance in, I believe, a couple years. But he, uh, He stepped into Black History Month No, he

Why he didn't play his new edition of nigger One less lonely nigger Come on, yo See, Beaves, like this is what I'm saying with you, man Beavs, don't do this. We don't want to hear snooze. I went in here your acoustic version of one less lonely nigger

during Black History. Like, if you're going to give it to us, give it to us. Don't give me this shit. And, all right. I'm not shooting him any, bail for that. But how come we don't ever ask who was that lady holding the camera and laughing in the background? Does she still work in the music industry? Oh, 100%.

Who was it? You know who it was. The same person that voted for Taylor. Stop. You know what? The same person. That's what I'm saying. They're in the same room. These people are in our fucking faces. They're in these rooms behind these fucking panels. And we don't want to ask these questions. Who are these fucking people? We need to

see these faces. Ma, I don't like that you keep saying that's a flip on an old record, that's a flip on an old record. Like all the old classic hip hop records aren't flips on old records. Hip hop is literally made out of being a flip on old records. You're telling me that. I was dead when hip hop started. You can't tell me that. I know that.

But that's why you fall in love with new songs like that because you know that melody. You know that it's familiar. I get it. But it's like, come on, man. Like, let's get some originality. I'm not saying that the bad boy era didn't have like egregious flips where it was legitimately just the same song that Mace was rapping over. I'm not saying that didn't exist.

But the level in the playing field versus then and now, every song is not even a flip. They're just legitimately doing the song over. Yeah. It's crazy. And I get it hip hop comes from that. It's a little more creative with your sample. You just be a little more creative with your sample.

I just don't like it when it's done in R&B too much. I don't like that. I'm just like, oh, come on. I'm with you. Like rap, hip hop, I understand it because that's where it derives from. But like R&B, like, come on. Like, let's be a little more creative in R&B. And the way that they're, the rate they're going now,

water will probably be sampled next year. Oh, yeah. For sure. Oh, Agua. Oh, yeah. For sure. Agua. And it'll be a Cardi Bissom.

Yeah. Bad bunny on it. For sure. Bad bunny, Agua. Um, I want bees to put that on streaming. One less lonely nigger? No. Oh, the snoo his snooze.

Snooze. Oh, I want to hear one less lonely nigger. Fuck it. The acoustic. He was in key. You know, he was, oh, was he in key? Perfect pitch. But I'm just saying I have.

The key a lot of. Yeah. I hate when people act like we don't remember those. You know what I mean? It's like, yo, fam, don't get up here and give us acoustic snooze. Nah, give us one less lonely nigga. That's what we're here for. Don't run from it.

Like, yo, listen, I know I shouldn't have never made this record, but. They said there's no racism in Canada. Shit. That's the first. Who said that? He was cheesing. He was just cheesing. He was just cheesing.

Because that lady holding the fucking. camera laughing taught him that song. I want to know that woman. Is she still on the team? Oh, for sure. Look at his son. Scooter wasn't even in the green room. Pause for a second. Will we get flat? This is how crazy the music in the street.

We might get flagged on YouTube if we play this. That's crazy. I'm sure he copied for this. Yeah, the proof across the TMZ is hilarious. Proof that he said it. He was very happy about like. He was lonely naked. One less lonely naked. gonna be one less knee

if I kill you I'll be part of the KKK He's so fucking bad Yeah, perform this Don't give me snoo with little twist Yeah like don't get me snoo Eminem could do that a racist rant that he went on And Bieber could sing the hook for the record

Oh man that tour would be crazy That's the white power Oh that would change the economy Yeah that would really push you At that tour Bebe going on his one less lonely nigger tour And Eminem going oh my God Wait until they find the original version

of white Iverson. There's not enough white robes. Oh my God. You're talking about selling out soccer stadium. Jesus Christ. Oh, beaves. Something else happened at the Grammys. Oh, Michael, uh, kill him Mike.

He got arrested. We didn't talk about that. They said he got arrested because he stole three Grammys that he wasn't supposed to. Stop. You know what? I appreciated Travis's, uh, whatever his crew is called. The utopias, I don't know. Cacti.

The cacti. The cacti. I thought. that was pretty funny not doing that. That's not the name of Travis Scott. What are they? What are Travis Scott fans called? I really thought cacti was The Raiders. They're the Raiders. No, that's Uzi. The Raiders.

Oh, they're dead because they got trampled at the show. Remember? Yeah. We're off the fucking rails here. Yeah, what are they called, though? Deceased. The six feet. Asmatic. Six feet boys. Six feeters. Yeah. Asmatic.

Phosphobic. The claustrophobics. Yeah, they are the ragers They are the ragers. Thank you. Really? No, he got to get a new name for them. Rages ain't.

Ragers is whack. That's not whack. Ragers? It doesn't even apply to him. It's like, it's not unique to him. Yeah, it's not. I mean, I know they have. The Navy isn't unique to Rihanna?

They have a mosh pit at his shoulders, but come on. And isn't that Uzi's thing? Isn't rage like his shit? Nah, I feel like they rage way more at the, at the Travis. No fucking way. Them white kids be raging more than Uzi. Yes. No way.

I sat up there and watched him fucking up to overdose when he played fiend 11 times in a row That was one song Is he even do like arenas though? Ousey? By himself?

I'm not getting into this debate I'm sorry. No. You do like a T5 two nights in a row kind of thing. Little Ouzi doesn't do he doesn't do arenas? I wouldn't think so.

Really? By himself? Maybe in Philly I can see it Or like certain Because he's from there? No I'm saying certain Like Dirk did an arena And shot

He doesn't have the dedicated, like, fan base, like the totality fan base, like Travis does. Travis, they will buy anything he markets to them. Like, I don't think Uzi has. Really? Yeah, being a Travis Scott fan is a lifestyle. But Uzi books major slots at festivals, though. Yeah.

Huge. If not, headliner, second billing. That's so interesting that he doesn't do arenas. Is it? Wow. You have something like, little Uzi? I would, I thought Little Uzi was doing. doing arenas. I'm not checking for it. I'm not going to the show, but I would think that

little Uzi is doing arenas, absolutely. It's hard to, it's hard for people to buy tickets. I mean, like, do shows now. People are not buying tickets to shows. Oh, it just, it just reminded me because she bought tickets to show, which is not certain niggas shows. What happened with, Nikki and Killer Mike? Oh, so nothing. Killer Mike won the award, but whoever is on the Grammy's social team is a genius, they tweeted out that Barbie World won rap song. of the year. Oh, yeah. Instead.

That was not, I don't give a fuck with nobody say that wasn't on accident. They said the envelope said Killer Mike. They said they announced Killer Mike at the pre-Grami show. Like everything said Killer Mike except for Twitter, Twitter. The recording at Recording Akad said, no, Nikki Barbie World won this and then deleted it. I cannot believe Nikki didn't hop on IG Live within seconds of that happening. I think she would have if it wasn't Killer Mike that one and it was one of her competitors. that's if it was like doing that for killer mike is just like girl like Drake won't lost too so like what are you gonna

you know I mean Kai had her back Kai had no idea what the fuck killer Mike was even though he lives in his city I mean I don't expect Kaysa not to know who killer Mike is neither am I don't I don't you know I didn't have the hip-hop outrage the way yeah like like Kyle's what 20 something yeah certain artists I don't expect like these younger cats to know who they are but I would I would I would I would actually love to see Kai do a stream with Killer Mike That'd be cool

I think that'll be super cool It's okay when when we gotta get past this thing Of when people don't know who certain people are It's looked at it like yo that's yo what the fuck you How you don't know Instead say oh you don't know who he is Invite him on your stream Yeah

Sit down to kick it with him get to know who Killer Mike is Get to know exactly the type of person how intelligent this artist is, how important this artist is, and why this artist won three Grammys. Like, I think that's the way to go. So, yeah, Kai, get Killer Mike on the stream, man, and have some fun and bring some police there to lock Killer Mike up in your basement. You're like, how old was Kai in 2003 when Never Scared came up?

Yeah. Yeah, probably as you know, Roger Jules is, probably there's a lot that he was. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. So instead of, you know, like, how, you know, Killer Mike fans being mad at Ka from not known who Killer Mike is. and have them on for a stream. Have him on as a guest. And that's how you squash all of that

and get to know Killer Mike is. Yeah, but why would you do that? How would that benefit him? Benefit who? Kai's streaming as a job. How would him having Killer Mike benefit him in his audience? He's a three-time Grammy winner, rapper from Atlanta,

who's very intelligent on social issues, very intelligent on a lot of issues that's going on in our culture and our communities. And being, Kays and not being a young, person that's living in the city that Killer Mike is from, I think that it would be beneficial for Kaasanaat to at least know. He doesn't have to be

a fan of his music. I didn't say how... To at least know who Killer Mike did. I didn't say how it would be beneficial to Kai? How would it be beneficial to Kai's platform and Kai's job? That's what I mean. Because the people expanding his brands. And introducing his audience, introducing his audience to artists and people

that they may not know in the city, a big figure in the city that Kaasenot lives in, like it would be very beneficial to Kai and his platform to have Killer Mike on. Absolutely. Well, I'm not arguing with you. I'm just saying Kai's platform, the guess he brings on is to draw streams to his platform. We know who his audience is.

His audience is kids. Killer Mike is not, he doesn't make music for their demographic. So yes, for us, it will be cool. But if Killer Mike went on a Kai Sinat stream, most Killer Mike fans wouldn't go see it. And then Kai Sinat fans are not really, he's not really going to garner any new fans from that. So that's why I said, why would it be beneficial for his platform? He might.

Kai also said his audience or not kids. Remember that? That was pretty recent. He doesn't be your definition of kids, but... Yeah. And also, I think a lot of the kids that watch Kai and look up to him and want to be like him as far as streaming

in the business that he does. Killer Mike is an incredibly intelligent businessman. I think it would be an incredible conversation for the of them to talk about business. And I think his fans, most of his fans want to be him. They want to stream. They try to do YouTube channels like him.

To have Killer Mike on there just on a business aspect would be an incredible conversation, I think, for his audience. Yeah. And not only just for the audience, it's just for the optics and the aesthetics of the young streamers, the older rappers, a three-time Grammy winner. It just gives it a different, you know, now it's like, oh, Kai is sitting down with people that he doesn't know. He's getting to learn about these people, and he's bringing these people into his world

where Killer Mike may not know much about that streaming world. He's very intelligent, so he pretty much might know. But I think that that's just a dope look, like the young streamer, the older MC who just won three Grammys, being from the same city that Kassanat now lives in. I just think that, you know, he gets, Kyle gets information on Atlanta that he doesn't know about why Atlanta is considered the Black Hollywood and things like that. I think that it's just a good look for Kai as well as Killer Mike because now it lets, it kind of takes away that stink of the older generation doesn't really fuck with the younger

generation. Yeah, it's a nice cross-pollination. I think it would be a mutually beneficial moment. I think Killer Mike's album was a perfect representation of that if you look at the features. Like, there's young people on, like Atlanta is on there. Yeah. And on top of that, outside of DJ Envy putting him on camera with that guy, Killer Mike is very vocal about black ownership and real estate and, you know, owning homes within the Georgia community.

Where do you stream from? Your home. Yeah. It's a very important conversation to people that want to stream eventually. That's your office. Yeah. I think that would be done. Home is the most important part to a streamer.

Yeah, I think that would be done. You should learn about real estate. But anyways, do we have voicemails? You've got mail. We do. I figured we sidestepped away from our usual relationship. relationship advice. So I figured we'd get back into it with one today.

So there you go. Yo, Rory, Maugh, Demaris, Julian, Yomi. Thank you for having me on the show. This is Chris from the Bay Area, represent for the 510 and the 415. I just have a question, quick question, if y'all will be so free to answer it. I've been dating the girl since the start of last year,

started 2023. we got to gather at the start of this year. And she's perfect. She's 33. I'm 30. About to be 31. She's about to be 34. I love everything about this girl.

Except for one thing. She has made comments that she is not exactly, she doesn't know if she wants to have kids, right? but all her friends have kids and she wants to be on some best aunt ever shit. Me personally, I want to have kids. Like, I love the idea of being a father. I love the idea of raising someone to be the best that they can be. So I'm having this internal conflict of how do I approach her about,

yo, let's maybe get on the same page about kids. How do I do that? come on guys can you all give me some advice thank you and i appreciate you yo listen man just shoot it up all right still talking about Atlanta yeah man just shoot up the club man just a lot of you know how many women i've heard saying i don't want kids and as soon as they have one it's like they just don't even remember who they were before having a kid they're like i can't believe i ask women don't want kids no that's no it's not you so you made it sound negative but it's intentional to get a woman that doesn't want to get pregnant.

Yeah. It's fucking crazy. It's your lady. It's not small, but it's her body. Yeah, but I mean. I know mom. And what if she's, that's why I'm not paying him no situation right now.

Then she ends up being a shitty mother and you're mad at her when she tried to tell you I didn't want to be a fucking mother. He's dead ass. Nah. I think that most people that say they don't want to have kids. He's not dead. A lot of people say that until they actually have a kid. I know a bunch of people that was like,

no, I'm not having no kids. I'm not. And now that they have kids, they fucking love it. They want to have another one. They want to have three now. And at one point, they was like, I'm not having none. It happens.

A lot of people feel like they don't want kids until they have a kid. And then it's like, oh, shit, like this is amazing. This is beautiful. Like, it happens. A lot of people feel that way. I just think that that's probably where his girlfriend is at. Like, she's feeling like, I don't want no kids. You say that now.

Okay, cool. But then we have a kid. We have a family. Start a family. And then you're like, this is incredible. Like, I love this part of my life. All right. So break down this whole process.

So he nuts inside of her. She becomes pregnant. She pees on the stick. Yeah. After she's already said, I did not want a kid. Yep. I don't think when she sees the two lines, that's going to change her perspective. So walk me through the nine months of this pregnancy of a woman that said she did not want to have a kid.

And how are you going to duck the option of abortion? If she really doesn't want, if she'll have an abortion. So you really put her in a nice position. So let's get her pregnant just to see. No, but no, again. Plan B is a radiator and some handcuffs. People say, okay, is it? What if they live in Texas?

We need more information. Is she on birth control? Well, no, if she got pregnant. I'm just saying it. That's what I'm saying. Is she on, we don't know. If she is, then she really doesn't, she's not trying to be pregnant at all.

But if she's not, well, women take, monitor her period. Yeah, that's different. Or control being pregnant and not. But women opt to not be on birth control. Because birth control is awful for you. and so many people have gotten all types of blood clots and shit for it because it's absolutely terrible for you.

Causes weight gain, makes your hormones fluctuate, gives you suicidal ideation. So yeah, sometimes you don't want to have a baby, but sometimes you want to kill yourself just a little less. So you might not do birth control. You might just monitor when you're ovulating. Yeah. Either or, that's still birth control to some degree monitoring when you're ovulating. That's controlling your birth chart. For sure.

But I think after she sees the two lines, she's going to have some revelation and he's like, I can't wait to have this kid. I've seen it happen. I've seen it happen with a lot of girls I know. It was swarping down. I'm not having kids. I'm not having kids. As soon as they got pregnant,

was ecstatic, was happy, was excited, loved that they have a family now. It happens. It does happen, well. No, I'm not, I am in the whole. Before I'm telling you that that does not happen, but he should not, he should actually listen to the person that he's dating

and go off of what she's saying. Oh, women don't know nothing. I don't know what you want Well, that's airtight logic, yeah. She's also 34. She's not a kid. I just posted that tweet of the girl that said three years ago, she was like,

yo, men that could cook, deserve sloppy head at the drop of a dime and then four years later tweeted men that can cook are sassy. I saw that. This is a very funny tweet. Women, they, you just don't, it's like, all right, man, this is your partner. This is who you're going to be with.

This is who you love. You're 34. That's what she said? Almost, yeah. Turning through. Okay, if she was 22 and was like, I don't want kids, I could see a world where eventually.

she may want kids. I think at 34, you know. You have a pretty good grasp on whether you want to have kids or not. Yes and no, because I know girls that had kids after they were third before. Do they have a kid before? No. Ma, you ever consider that some people have kids and they say they didn't want them and then they have kids? And you're like, oh, they're so happy because they're like making the best out of their situation.

It's kind of like that's what we're all on this earth for to make the best about. Yeah, okay. But that doesn't mean that that's what they want is that what's what happened and they're making the best out of the situation. and they're choosing not to spend the rest of their life raising their kid upset that they have a kid. Because I, as a woman, know so many women who go out into the world and they post their kids and they look so happy to be moms. But when they get on that phone at night with me, they're crying in like, why the fuck did I do this? I didn't want to do this. I hate being a fucking mother.

But they're making the best out of a situation. That happens way too often. Yeah, I just, yeah, it happens. But I think it goes both ways, though. There's definitely women that absolutely don't want. want kids and don't end up, don't ever having kids. I know that too. But I also know women that at one point was saying, hell, no, I'm not having no kids.

Fuck, no. Like. So at 30, if he's saying at 33 going on 34, she's adamant that she doesn't want kids. What he's looking for you guys to give him advice, real advice, please do not shoot that girl's body up without her permission. What, what is you guys an advice to him? I think if you want to be very serious with somebody and see the rest of your life with them, your opinion on children needs to align. Yeah.

Even if that's your twin flame, soulmate, all that shit, I understand. But if kids is part of your plan and what you want to see with your life, you want to experience having children, you can't be with someone that doesn't. Now, if she was unable to have kids, that's a different conversation. But if she's healthy enough to have kids and she does not want to and you want to, I don't really see even I don't care if you're the closest relationship ever that's it can't really work out if you want to have kids and your girl is not able to have kids do you stay with her uh don't stay with her no because if I'm at that point where I really want to be a father then that would

be just the looming thing over the course of our entire existence together would you adopt I'm too selfish well I don't think she would want to I want my own kid no we're talking about if she couldn't have kids oh she couldn't oh she couldn't oh if she couldn't have that's a different conversation. That's a different conversation. That's the conversation I'm having. Oh, no, I didn't know you were talking like medically unable to have children. I thought you meant she just, I didn't want to. If it's

someone I loved and we tried every single route, like I would spend a lot. It's fucking so expensive to go through that, but I would do it. And if all the options were exhausted, then I would look into an adoption process. Because if that's the person I really want to be with, we tried our best. So be

it. This is where we're at. Or I'll just nut and some other girl. and then raise that kid and then we can just like, oh, thanks. God damn it, Julie, that's what I was one. Big happy family.

Be a man, Julian. I feel like, which one of your friend is is your favorite? Give me that one. Yeah, exactly. I have plans to eventually adopt.

To adopt. You what? Why not have another kid? I won't have another kid. And adopt? Brady. You really want a black baby. Are you going to adopt

I would get an Asian one. Are you going to adopt a black baby? I haven't thought that far to the process. They're cheaper. Kia was adopted. I grew up around a lot of adopted kids, kids that were in foster care.

Like, I appreciate that system. I want to contribute where I can. That's cool. I want to adopt. It's dope. I told him that was really, it's really cool.

So you would want another full blood with the Mara, like just a full. Full blood. What is it? Like a real kid. Like a day walker. Like a day walker. Another muggle.

Yeah. You want a day walker? Like a walker. Roy, you're doing the Lord's work. You're bringing genders back and adopting. children. Wow, that's great karma. You're a philanthropist. That is true. You're a

full-on rapist. You're a full-on rapist. That's so inappropriate right there. Oh, my God. It's Jay Cole's first raping. I'm fact. I'm serious. Wait. Oh, the philanthropist. You're right. Therapist was his therapist. Yeah. I'm so

glad he was like, you know what? Jay Cole. Fun Jay Cole fact for all you Jay Cole fans out there. When he was St. John's, his rap name was therapist. my cousin and former business partner went to college with him. They all looked at him when they were trying to find a logo

and Aristotle was like, bro, that says the rapist. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Germain, you need to change your... What's your real name? What's your real name? Let's go with that. Let's go with Jay Cole. It was looking at logos like, it just says the rapist.

No matter how you write it, no matter how you write it. I don't care how you spell it. Demerz, what would you do? What would you tell him? Oh, I would tell him to, yeah, Find somebody that wants to have kids, baby. Marys, do you want kids? Yes.

I want, I want nothing more than to be a mother and a wife. That's my life goal. Your life goals to be a mother and a wife. To have a family, to raise, like, a happy, healthy family with, like, other extensions. And I want family businesses and all of that. But I want my family to be a core. I was raised our family values. So, yeah.

What if I adopted a white ginger? That's excessive. Then I would be like, all right, there's something wrong with you. There's something really wrong. Well, I mean, nobody else is going to do it. That's the kid you could sacrifice. Yeah. We'll be back after a word from our sponsors.

We have no sponsors. You know what I'm nervous about, though? The adoption interview. Like, I feel like I would fail that. I feel like I tried to make an inappropriate joke or I would be nervous. I would just not look like a fit parent through that entire thing.

Yeah. Yeah, I'd offer them alcohol. You want something to drink? We're here for an adoption interview. Yeah. I'm going to the liquor store. You need anything? you think you passed a home inspection

yeah I'm a very clean person I mean there's guns in there but do you think the gut what would stop it yeah whatever happened to that shit paper towels and guns in your bathroom oh it's still geez long story yeah shit yeah like a

I had a leak a mold oh yeah yeah that homeowner shit sometimes is really fucking annoying yeah with insurance but should I put a should I put Amara in the fresh air program even though she's like well off. Why is J. L. Fons?

You have a well off kid. So were you. He said what? J. Al Fons. Che doesn't call me. You were a well off kid too. I'm not a well off kid. I said he has a well-off kid.

No, I'm saying you were. No, I wasn't, Julie. You were a well-off kid, baby. Oh, no, I was not. We were poor, poor buddies? I'm not poor. I was just, you know, lower middle class, whatever. Well, that's low-middle class.

That was well-off. It's not well off. That's not well off. Low middle class is not well. We did fine. Yeah. It felt fine. Parents worked.

Yeah, my parents worked. I went to public schools. Went to a very good private school. I have a lot of debt. There was no, there was no like a handout. It was like, well, you'll get through. But good luck. It's going to be food on the table tonight.

Yeah. I'm not worried about that stuff. Yeah. I get it. I had food clothes. Didn't miss basketball camp. So I think I was all right. Shane.

Oh, my God. camp I always say I can never say I got it out the mud that'd be a lie yeah I can't say that no no didn't get out the mud got it out the fridge got it out the fridge got it out the fridge mom mom kept the fridge stock like I got it out the fridge fam I don't know what to tell you you know we only did mischievous shit like like you know robbed the Asian food delivery guy because we were just bored we wasn't starving I had food upstairs on the stove promise you. Rob the Chinese guy with a full stomach.

Yeah. I was burping when he pulled up. Like, yo, what? How many wings I owned it? You're like, oh, shit, I already ate. Like, I threw the wings away. Like, I'm like, yo, we didn't, we, we just did shit because we were born. That was it.

Depending on the weather, sometimes it was muddy. Yeah, sometimes. But I didn't get nothing out of the mud. I went upstairs. And I had rain boots on. What can you actually get out of the mud, though? Wingworms. You guys ever had ringworm before?

Hell no. No. All the dirty shit I never had. I never had. I think I had one. What's the kissing disease? Mono. I never had Mono either. That's because I didn't get pussy.

That's dirty shit. That's just dirty. I got Mono from one of my home girls. Dirty. Honestly, look at you. No, not even. Drinking after her. I swear to God, drinking.

All I did was drinking. I was never a fan of that. I was not a fan of mono. Oh. No, drinking after. Never a fan of that. Ma do not smoke. I ask Mar to smoke.

Ma will give me a home. I give you your own shit. I'm not. I just, that was never my drip. I'm not with that shit. My friend in high school got crabs from a toilet at Icon Stadium. God.

That's what he told you? No, he was a virgin. He really got crabs from the toilet at icon stadium. You know the on Redd's Island? Dirty. Dirty. Why are you sitting on the toilet?

Brand new. Why are you sitting on a public toilet? When you're ass on a public toilet. I see. I agree. No, I agree there. Dirty shit. All of the shit y'all saying comes from motherfuckers just being dirty.

Mano, you tongue gets some random girl. That's where he was from. Harlem. Stinking Lincoln. Home of the dirty nigger. I didn't start, like, coming into contact with really dirty shit until I went to college. College.

dorm rooms and door bath fucking gross. That's why I got Ringworm firm was college. My high school was pretty filthy. College was gross. College is fucking... They had the mats in the gym high school.

There was a ringworm like outbreak. Thank God I never got that shit. Dirty. Motherfuckers don't know. Wash their ass, wash your hands, wash what you use. You guys ever get pink eye? Never.

No. I wasn't one of the chosen ones. Never had. I've ate a lot of ass too. I'm shocked it never happened. I thought I had pink eye, but... Front of mine currently has pink eye. currently? And I said, I was like, get your eye out of her asshole.

I just don't, go ahead. I just wash your hands. Like, why people don't wash the hands? But if you're eating ass, I mean, Rory told me this girl was barking on my pillow. When I thought I had pink eye, but I really didn't, I had scratched my corny or whatever, but I thought I had pink eye so I didn't come to work. And he was like, that girl fart. Now you have Taylor. Taylor went nuts at your root. Taylor. Do we have any more voice move? That was it. First of all, it doesn't make you dirty if you get. ringworm because you were in gym class and somebody. Someone else had it. That's how things spread.

Yeah. Let's hold the, uh, let's hold the voicemails for later in the week. Okay. We'll do that. Uh, prayers to Lisa Ann. What happened? Don't tell me Lisa Ann died. Oh, God, no. Oh my God. I was about to be fucking sick. Quite the opposite. His whole heart dropped.

Yo, you know how that is to hear about Lisa? And you're thinking she prayers to Lisa? Like, what the fuck? What happened? She was dragged out of Radio City. What? What? Here. Matt Reif. For cosplay? Wait, what? She probably was trying to record in a place you were not able to record.

And it was probably drunk and belligerent and made them. Every cop arresting her has jacked off to this lady before. That's Lisa Ann, the legend. You were going to arrest her because she pulled her phone out? Yeah, at Radio City, that's a thing. How do you think her and Matt Reif know each other? She's had their good friend. Oh, you know how, the same way I know her.

He's like 27. Yeah. So? So she's what? She's probably like 40. No, I'm saying. We work together. Okay, fine. In that case, if Matt Reif and her work together, what do you think they're working on?

Some contents. 20 minutes hits. I would be if I worked at least. Ah, 10, maybe. I would be like, yo, Lisa, we got to get this content going. You know, it's content. She's 51. She looks great.

She looks amazing. She looks good. She looks great. Born in 72. Oh, she's from Easton? That's where my college is. Great. And that's also where the Crayola factory is.

Yes, I've been there. nice. I told worry he should take Amara. Do you guys know what color the largest crane in the world is? Yep. What is it? Cracker white. Nope. What is it? Well, I guess. Mustard? Moth. Why are you guys doing like the weird color? Think popular.

Red. No, it's blue. It's made of recycled old crans. Julian, I feel like I could have left this planet not knowing it. But it's cool. It's huge. Very nice. And to be mad at us for not guessing blue is fucking crazy. It's blue. It's blue. you're gassing like I didn't see, Ma.

Weird color. Because you set it up as if it was going to be some crazy things. Just a blue fucking crayon. Yeah. Think simple. There it is.

It's like the wemeniana of crayons. If anybody is depressed right now, get a coloring book and some crayons and color. It'll help. Are you depressed right now? Do you have a color book?

I'm in a really good place. Don't take birth control. Does that make you too soon? That's what you just told us. Oh. Too a little bit too soon. Maybe. That's okay.

Fair enough. Anyways. All right. Well, I'm just glad Lisa Ann is. still alive and well and, you know. I would have bailed her out. I would definitely put something on Lisa Ann's books as much as I owe her.

I would have followed the cop car. Yeah, I owe her a lot. I don't know the way of the cop give it out there. She needs a character witness? Yeah, like that. When is the trial? I will speak at her trial if she needs me to. That's a hard worker you're on.

Are you kidding me? Lisa Ann? It puts everything into everything that she does. Christ. Is she in your top five? Lisa Ann? Yeah. I don't expect you to watch.

white woman porn. Who me? All? No, Rory. She, uh, Lisa, top five? Top ten.

She's in my top ten. I don't know if she's in my top five. She's in my top ten for sure. There's a new one that cracked my top five that might have got Lisa Ann out of it. Who? Savannah Bond. Oh my God. Jesus Christ.

Savannah Bond. Jesus Christ. She's incredible. Pull her up. See it. Yeah, she's incredible. You really, you really like the milk mall.

Oh, those are the nastiest. You're a milk man. One star? Oh, God. Is she new? Mall is a milkman. She's very new. She's a couple years in.

She's in my top. Oh, she's born in 1990. She's from Melbourne, Australia. Yeah, she's an Aussie. Rory, do you like redheaded porn, like redhead women porn? No. I like. It's a lot of red.

White porn, but not, I don't know. Redhead. That self-hate is so deep. It's very deep. That's hilarious. Like, black, we can't do that. I can't do what Rory just did it. Mine's very specific.

Like, white porn is fine. I like white porn. But specific to Ginger's is like, ugh. That's hilarious. It's like looking at a sibling. They say approximately two to six. percent of the U.S. population is red-headed.

That's a, when you're talking about the U.S. population, two to six is a huge gap. Yeah. Yeah, it is. Yeah. I would say one percent. Six to 18 million individuals. All right. Well, I think we addressed and touched everything we wanted to do and everyone we wanted to touch today.

We can talk Super Bowl predictions on Friday. Oh, we know when. Well, we know how many years. How many year? Yeah, swizzle. I can't wait until she goes 50-yard line after they went and endorses a Biden. Do you guys think that usher will bring anybody out? Nah.

Nah, I don't think he's brown. I think he's taking that one to the face. A-yo. Taking it to the face, meaning by itself? How is that a-e-yo? What if Kiki Palmer's like front row? I hope not. Oh, that would be great marketing.

No, it wouldn't. Foo-Hikki. Kiki not getting custody of her killer. Like, who would that be great marketing for? He's already the performance of a halftime Super Bowl show. Um, he may bring out some guests. Who?

I could see him. Little John. I could see him doing some real Atlanta shit. Yeah, I was just saying. I could see him doing some real Atlanta shit. I could see him bringing Atlanta to the Super Bowl. You see his, uh, skims campaign that came out while we were recording? No, I didn't see it while we were recording.

No, I'm not looking at ushered with his underwear on while we're recording, Julian. Sorry, I was. Damaris was looking at it and I noticed it. I said, oh, look at Usher and you say, yeah, he looks great. Like, you saw it already. Okay, he does look great. How much of the skims underwear? Probably like, they're probably like 35, 40 a pair.

$40 for one pair of underwear? You're going to cop? No. Wait, one pair or one pack? Prices right now. $40 for one pair of underwear? I don't know. I don't buy them.

I'm just saying that's, I would assume, probably 30 to 40 for a two pack probably. I don't know. That seems expensive. I'm not paying $40 for one pair of underwear from skin. No fucking. Well, how much do you pay for? 24. Oh, okay.

That's not bad. That's overpriced to me. Well, how much do you got? What underwear do you guys buy? Calvin. Why you look a crooks and castles kind of guy? You, I've not heard. Yo, I'm not in castles in.

I'm not going to lie. 12 years, maybe. That was crazy. You thought, you thought J restrained itself well and that elevator. Y'all don't even know what I was just about to say to Maris. I was great to say some very disrespect. We should be the marriage and stuff. Like, y'all don't give me enough credit for the way I

restrain myself sitting in his seat and on this microphone. Did she have a point, though? I've never won't Crookson Castle anything in my life. Never worn anything that's in Crookin Castle. What do you wear? What do you wear? Calvin. I wear Calvin Clines. I wear a polo.

I wear polo. I wear, uh, I used to wear Ethica, but I don't like the, um, I don't like polyest. I don't like that material. Yeah, I like, I work out in sometimes. Yeah, I don't, I don't, I don't know anyone that wears this style of brief? my grandfather used to widows Yeah

These just seems so uncomfortable Like it's just No they actually look like They would probably be comfortable No they won't No because right here These ride up And on the back

When it turns into like A thong It just Yeah, exactly You got jeans on And you like outside With the homies Listen to some music

And you got They don't know You got You got your shit It's done turn into thongs In any of your shit You got a doody stain It's like

I don't know about Dutty stings Like wipe your ass Looks like a coal miner's eyebrow Yeah I don't know I don't do those boxer briefs or nothing for me.

Same. Yeah. Just give me the long boxer. Well, when did you give up our boxes? Huh? When did you give up our boxes? Oh, man, I was maybe 13, 14, and I gave up in boxes. Rory, did you ever wear boxes?

Yeah. I think I gave up. Last year. When I went to college, maybe? I think I wore boxes throughout high school. High school, I wore boxers the whole time. I gave up. The plashes?

The moment, the moment I found the boxer briefs, like, and they were, like, consistently available on the stores, I never went back to boxes. But that was around the time, like the end of high school for me. Like when you could actually just go get crazy. No, because when I was in high school, it was way before you, them just was readily. Hell yeah. And maybe my mom was crazy. I kind of want to try these skims out.

Three pack for 52 is not bad. Hey, Kim, send us a pack, well, send us a whole box of skin. And I like these colors. Let me see what, let me see how comfortable. But they'll be covered, you know. But they're cotton though, right? I'm not wearing no polyester, whatever that. It's probably a blend.

It's a skin. So I think it would probably be a, yeah, blend. They should have it in a detail. They're probably more polyester than they are. I can't with no polyester. I can't do that shit. You sweat? Polyester makes you sweat.

Yeah. A little mud butt? No, never no mud butt. You got it out the mud. No. That's where you got it out of the mud. Yeah. You got out the fridge.

Your asshole. Never. Who the fuck is wrong with y'all? I saw someone tweet that the Kardashians keep Rob Kardashian fat so they can harvest him for BBLs. I saw that this morning at my way and I laughed out loud

What's wrong with people man That's Beverly Hills farming But why though Like why Rob don't Rob don't be on the internet He don't fuck with nobody He just trying to sell socks once Yeah like he's just chilling mind of his business

And here y'all going to internet Just saying disrespectful crazy shit About Rob Kardashian Like just leave people alone man Where is Rob? In Calabasas I guess I don't know All right

Um Shout out to to the New York Knicks. Shout out to Jaylen Brunson, man. My vote for league MVP this year. Nixon third place. They won a non-game winning street.

Lost to the Lakers Saturday. Black-ass game. That photo of Jalen Brunson and LeBron from that's cool. 2002 or some shit? Jalen Brunton, they put up a clip about Jalen Brunce's his career. It was some shit that Jailen Brunton did that I forgot about.

I forgot he won a national championship twice. I forgot he was a collegiate play of the year. I knew he was a second round drive pick. But I just think that his story, his path, his journey is something that a lot of people

should celebrate. I realize he's only 27. Him and Josh Harder starting a podcast. That'll be dope. Together. And Jalen also has entered into the three-point contest. So that'll be nice. I'm just happy that Jalen is because I remember when the Knicks first signed him,

they gave him $100 million and the Knicks fans were upset. said they were paid him. I was one of them. Y'all got him for a still. Yep. He's highly underpaid. But, oh, they're going to double back when this contract is over and they're going cash him out.

You can believe that. Oh, you can believe that. I was definitely one of those next fans. Like, are we seriously? This is what we're paying? Yeah. And again, I'll go back to when Julius told me that, because I asked him even when they signed him.

I'm like, yo, I liked him in Dallas. I thought he was good. But is he like that? And Julius said, he's the best point guard I've ever played with in my life. And that was surprising to hear that, but he's not wrong. He's definitely the best point guard Julius has ever played with. One of the best point guards in NBA right now, if not the best point guard in NBA right now. It's going to be hard for him to get MVP, though, because I think with Shea Gillius is doing an OKC.

I think they're still in first place in the West. So it's going to be hard for Jalen to get that MVP look. But for me personally, when you are able to come to the Garden, come to the Knicks, I don't think anybody had them being in third place in the East right now. All-Star selection this year. I just think that he's overachieved. The Knicks are looking like an Eastern Conference Finals team. Just for me personally, Jailen Brunson is the league MVP this year.

For me personally. It's been real fun here in New York. them and Josh Hart live together they were college teammates I knew that they probably were roommates in college that's cool the Nova Knicks moniker has become awesome too

yeah Vincenzo as well like it's just it's a cool story you don't have to fuck with the Knicks you just think this is cool yeah it's a good time to be a Knicks fan shout out to the Knicks shout out to Julius get healthy soon

he dislocated his shoulder but I think he'll be back either right after the All-Star break he should be good to go. And looking forward to the second half of the season and the playoffs, man. See what the Knicks can do. Hopefully they can go all the way to the finals, but that'll be tough to get past Boston or

Milwaukee. Milwaukee. Before we close, we were having the conversation off Mike a few days ago when I was looking at Super Bowl tickets. Yep. Of something that you would immediately regret. Yep. If the Knicks go to the Eastern Conference Finals, I'll pay for that.

That's something I wouldn't have regret. 100%. 100. I feel like I'm owed it to be. I don't think I should have to pay. Yeah. But as a loyal fan. Oh, yeah.

If the Knicks go to the Eastern Conference finals, you've got to go to that game. One of the games. If it's in Boston, I would even go up to Boston to see it. Yeah. I mean, we would be on the road, so the game three,

four would be here. Yeah. Because, I mean, when I paid almost two grand to see St. Peters get their asswood by Kentucky, I had some buyers remorse on that drive home from Philly. Yes,

there's no buyers remorse. us leaving a Knicks Eastern Conference finals game. You were there, you saw it, win or lose. It was something that any day. The garden's a good day. Yeah. You had to see that. So yeah, shout out to the Knicks. I was just leaving Philly like, did I need to be courtside? No. You definitely did not need to be

courtside at the St. Peter. I could have watched it. Yeah, but you could have watched that. It got smacked. But college is different though. It is a rough game. It's literally winner go home. Like every game is winning. So that's why college is a bit. Well, the Sweet 16, I was not going to pay

for that. I was like, all right, if they make it to the Elite 8, which would be crazy. You gotta go. It's in Philly. I'll pay for that. Yeah. But on the way back, I was like, yeah, I could have watched that at home. Yeah. Yeah, like, I could have saved that two bands. And then, like, all the Kentucky,

what are they calling? No, it was North Carolina that beat them. Oh, no, yeah, you're right. It was UNC. They be Kentucky. It was UNC, beat them by 20. All the UNC like boosters were sitting behind me. And, you know, I had all my St. Peter shit on. Yeah. You know, with my feet on the wood, pause. They were really mean to me.

Oh. As they were supposed to be. But it wasn't a close game. It was supposed to be welcoming? It was 3819 at half. Yeah, like they didn't need to also be mean to me. No, was this the, oh yeah, they played Carolina and Kentucky. Kentucky the game before.

They beat Kentucky and they, Carolina was the one I went to. Oh, okay, got you. Yeah. Okay. I had them confused. Got smoked. Big smoked. All right, well, let's get out of here.

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