New Rory & MAL - Episode 244 | Trump Is Back & So Are We

Episode Date: February 20, 2024

We’re back home and at full strength. We briefly catch Mal up on all that he missed while he was sick in LA. Luckily Rory was able to evade Chris Brown, however Julian wasn’t as lucky (6:32). This leads to a conversation about Chris getting uninvited from the NBA Celebrity All-Star game (12:47). Overall, the All-Star weekend was disappointing. We offer some solutions to make it better (20:00). In music news, Benzino appeared on Drink Champs and the Henny won (34:26). We react to his meltdown over Eminem and what is the allotted time for a “beef” to exist in Hip-Hop (45:47). And yes, Prince tried to run over Michael Jackson with his car. We call out & give credit to Drake, Sexyy Red, and SZA for an amazing music video (55:17). In more horrifying videos the NYPD has a dance troop (1:00:24). The ugly continues as Trump rolls out his sneakers at Sneakercon in Philly. Meanwhile, Glorilla & Damian Lillard spark a debate about relationship social media etiquette (1:14:40). We cover the Roots Picnic lineup and cover Rory getting in his Karen bag last year (1:29:41). Then we give flowers to Vince Staples for his show (1:41:00). It’s time for voicemails (1:47:40)! Tune in as the full team discusses all of the above + more!Opening Song: 'Yeah Glo!' x GloRillaFollow The Team:Rory - https://www.instagram.com/thisisrory/Mal - https://www.instagram.com/mal_bytheway/Julian - https://www.instagram.com/julian__nicholas/Demaris - https://www.instagram.com/demarisagiscombe/Merch: https://newrorynmal.com/Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/newrorynmalYouTube Subscribe: https://rb.gy/hk7up Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoicesSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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We were hidden in the hills for a long time. I was hitting us. his hotel. I'm happy to see you're okay. I'm good, man. I'm like 85%. I'm feeling much better, though. I was getting a little worried. L.A. tried to kill me. I don't know what was in the air, but some, something got me. And I would really call you pussy if like that's how you went out in L.A. Like not gang-bladed. I would call myself that. Some, you know, robbery gone wrong, the flu. The flu. The flu. I'm back, though. I'm back. Let's go. What's up, Julian? Because you asked me early. You said early, I want you

to react to something I said or something that was said. All right. So I know you didn't watch or listen to the episode that Rory and I did together. I was watching God. Good. But there was watching. His eyes were watching God. There was one thing Rory said in particular that I wish you were there for this moment.

We were talking about the N-A-CP. Okay. And Rory thought the N in AACP stood for something else. No, he didn't. I swear to God. Would you think it still for, nigger? No, not that. Ralph, yes, he did.

Don't stuff for Negroes? At one point, didn't it? No, never. Which was the college fund one? I don't know what you're talking about. I know what you're talking about. There was a college fund one that the end did not stand for the N-word. Is it a Negro?

Yeah. Well, you can say Negro. You can say Negro. See, you guys aren't going to get me. What you mean? Negro. I'm not saying that, no. What?

If you're telling about a company or an organization, you can say that. But no, NAACP. You thought the NAACP? The United College Fund. That's the one I was thinking. UNICEF? You're talking about UNICEF? I was confusing that with NAACP. No.

Yeah. That's what he's looking. College fund right here, yeah. Well, close, yeah. Unis. I was like, I'm like, Unicef has nothing to do with any of that. Okay. Well, I thought.

But at the time in my head, N-A-C-P, I confused the two with my whiteness. And yes, I thought the end. And it took me a second to realize that, oh, the end stands for national. That's the type of time he was on when you were gone. He was taking chances. But see, he was only comfortable with saying that around you. Why? You got to ask yourself, why was he that comfortable, sis?

Don't tell me what somebody said about me. Tell me why they was comfortable enough saying it to you. Well, I wasn't calling you that word. I know. And I wasn't saying the word. I was alluding to it. And then it took me a second and realized they were like, you're scared to say the word national?

and then he did Roy did a modified version of the sign off or he was like he took a beat and said I'm not gonna say it so we'll just pretend Ma'll say it he says and I'm just ginger so he mentally said it no I didn't know I just mentally yeah

no I went just with the BPM I just went off the beats I didn't have to save my head okay okay I got you anyways yes we did a we did a sick game mall last minute you know was I tried man temperature of

God knows what. Oh, my goodness, I tried. And left a very tired Julian and I to try to knock out an episode and half a Patreon. But you guys made it through. Thank you. Yeah. We did. We were doing a lot that week.

I'm really excited for everyone to see what we were shooting over the course of the last however many days in Los Angeles. We were in L.A. for a week shot some cool stuff that we'll be given to the people soon. Since we were working so much, I didn't do much of anything. I don't really have any, like, cool L.A. stories to report back with all. Yeah. Yeah. This trip was 72 hours straight in a hotel room for me. Yeah, I think for the most part

outside of one night I think the whole crew kind of just chilled it didn't really do much Well, I curse Julian out because I went out three nights I stayed I stayed at I heard about one Yeah, I stayed at the dream

where fucking Sadiah's at the highlight room So Wednesday at the height of my fucking death Julia lets me know Thursday When I saw him like oh man Last night man we were at highlight I said oh so while I was a few floors down Dying right below

I was two step in my whole time You were keeping them up You were stomping above my fucking head that highlight room, you and Sean Dickerson. I said, you didn't even come down and say it's a check on me. Fuck you, Julian. So I couldn't obviously go to two highlight room because of prior family engagements. But I'm starting to think that might have just been my excuse.

I think I'm pussy. Why is that? The last seven times that I've been to highlight room, I've seen Chris Brown. Okay. And it's been a very good exchange. Anytime I go to highlight room, I'm assuming that I'll probably see Chris Brown. It's not in the back of my head because that's kind of weird. Like, oh, I get to see Breezy today.

Yeah. But he's usually there. Yeah. Had I been free, I still think I may have skipped highlight room because I don't know if I'm ready to have that exchange in public. But what exchange, though? I had it. Not with Chris, with Sean. Okay, but I'm talking about with Chris Brown in person, with cameras around.

Because no matter what, especially in that setting, I'm going to backtrack a bit. I'd be like, yo, bro, you know we share the same birthday. You should understand how my brain works and like I wasn't trying to disrespect you. How that conversation goes, no matter what, Julian as he should and Sean as he should, as friends and coworkers are going to film it.

And no matter what, I'm not going to look good in the video. Even if I was trying to look tough, it still wouldn't have worked out. Because I have the fear that he can do a backflip without a running start and my jaw would get hit in the middle of it. Yeah. I would be on pins and needles the whole time. I would have saved myself the possible embarrassment and not what.

But why, what you think Chris going to do when you see you? I don't think. Well, I mean, I don't know what he's. He's going to laugh. He just said on Instagram's story two days ago, he's Pai Roo. I'm nervous. I think that it would be funny. I think that he would probably just laugh at you.

I forgot what they were even trying to say. They were like, I'm a Chris is a Pisces. Like, no, I'm Pai Roo. I don't want any static with someone that says, that instead. Why not, though? I just don't, because I'm a civilian. I think, I think, I think, I think, I think, I think it would be funny, though, like seeing Rory, like,

just have that exchange, because I'm not, I want to be there, but I'm not going to say, no, I'm going to just sit there and just laugh. And I'm not trying to put this on Chris's if he would have been, like, some aggressor had done some dumb shit. He probably would have laughed. Of course. But either way, I don't think it would have went in my favor, perception wise, so I probably

would have, and call me pussy for it. I just would have kept myself out of a situation that wouldn't have went well. So, Julian, you went to highlight room and you saw Sean and he had a yes he had a good conversation with you because rory wasn't there i was the the fall man yeah and i let him know pretty early that i didn't say anything for those for those that don't know Sean runs sedique highlight room on wednesday nights one of the best one of the best parties in l.a by far that's our guy make your jokes he's family for real he's very close with Chris Brown very like extremely close i've found that out to the point

I think he might take Chris aside if we would be... No, he would have taken Chris aside. He's a way better customer at Sadiq than I am. Yeah. Yeah. You're probably spending way more money to eat. I drink Sean's bottles, Chris buys bottles. Yeah, exactly.

There's a difference. Big difference. Yeah. But he came up to me and we were chilling. We were just like, you know, catching up. And then the conversation turned, except maybe Night Train, who was DJing, was playing maybe a Chris record. And then the conversation just quickly became about that.

And I was like, ah, shit. Yeah. And I was like, nah, but in the clip, I didn't even say nothing. And he goes, I listen to the whole thing. Yeah, yeah, yeah, what's the clip? Yeah, yeah, Julian tried to clip him. Like, yeah, no, in the clip, no, fuck that clip. I heard the whole episode.

So, shout out to show. But he just, like, went off about, like, he's like, I've been all over the world with Chris. Every room we go. He was, like, doing the whole pitch from, like, a personal thing. He told me some pretty, some things I can say on air, which I'll tell you guys offer about that situation. But he was very, like, open about his relationship with Chris and, like, how the whole situation went. Yeah.

And I was like, bro, I just, I just trying to listen to this Chris record. like I got no skin in the game. I'm literally here because I like Chris's music. Yeah. Like that's why you're, that's why you're at. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. I'm putting the night train. I'm like, play the next Chris record. Just keep them coming. I don't want no person. The next 20 minutes. Nothing but Chris.

So then they got to the point we kept going. I was like, is this mother. Is he here? Yeah. I was like nervous. I was like, shit. Am I about to get pressed?

Because I was like fucking wrong. Y'all be, y'all be nervous of Chris Brown walking in a party is hilarious. It would have been Samori moment. Like, well, guess who we have backstage? What just you say about Chris? He's right here. I was just,

I was nervous, but it was really fun. But it was a, yeah, that was a funny moment. I told Roy the next day. And he was like, that's literally why I didn't go.

He's like, I didn't want to. He didn't want to have that conversation with Sean. No smoke. No, he didn't go because he ain't want to see Chris. It's just content. Oh yeah. Chris knows is just content.

I talked to Sean on the phone the next day after we put that clip out. But then for some reason, I feel like that day or the day before, somebody reposted the clip again and got another like resurgence. Because people I've known for years, started commenting on it again, like, not in my favor. Yeah. And I was like, damn, I thought we, I thought with her friends.

Like, not. And they always say shit like, I fuck with the boy Rory, but that nigga is wrong. They always, they prefaced it with, you know, letting them know that you're, you're their friend, but you're wrong. Yeah. Yeah. Well, I think we all know that by now. Vak, who's my guy commented and was like, it's cool.

Roy thinks prodigies better than Jay Z. And I'm like, what? What? That's fucked up. Where are we putting these things in? That's fucked up. That is sick. I don't think that.

That's so sick. R.P to P prodigy though. But yeah, I think that's something that's going to follow us for quite some time. I don't know, maybe I'll get, we're going to have to hit like foot. Someone is going to have to come with me to highlight room to make me a little bit more comfortable. No, you got to stand in and back up your words.

But you know I'm dumb and I will. Chris be like, yo, what you meant by that? Staying on Big Ben, then. You're going to be like, yo, nah, because right now the algorithms, Quavo is more popping. You know how hard it would be to have that conversation in a packed club with the music that loud? And now I'm like whispering in his ear.

No, you ain't got a whisper. Hey, yeah. Oh, yo, imagine. Like, nah, Kwaivo more than you. Imagine at a club around a bunch of women at a party. Like, yo, Kwaivo. Like, who is this guy ruining the fucking party? Oh, man, I cannot wait for that day to happen.

Well, Chris wasn't with us in L.A., but he seems like he had a rough time in Las Vegas this weekend. Finally, I can be on his side in something. Yeah. For those that don't know, Chris put up on his Instagram, emails between him and NBA All-Star weekend about him. He was performing or playing in the celebrity game. I think both. Which later on, they pulled out because advertisers said that they wouldn't put up ads if Chris was a part of the entire thing.

Which then Ruffles put something up and said, we're not in it. And then Chris continued on to say Ruffles like, I'll leak more shit. But this is corny at this point. Well, I didn't know about any of this. I remember Julian did send this to me the other day and I read some of it just to keep tabs, you know? Just to keep tabs on what was going on.

You know who's probably was eligible to play. But wasn't invited, right? Yeah. Moving. But who was not invited? Oh. Quabo Cabal. He's already been an MVP of this.

I know. He's already been an MVP of this. Oh, this thing? Oh, that's nothing. The celebrity game? But I don't understand. Why would they, why would they ruffles well, Ruffles said that they didn't have nothing to do with that.

Well, he specifically called out Ruffles by name. I don't know why they were hosting. They probably sponsored to us every game. And they jumped to their own defense and said, nah, like, chill, we didn't make a decision. Ruffles was suggesting that it was the NBA's decision, not ours. We never said we were going to pull out if you were playing, which could be true as well.

But if they're the one sponsoring the entire thing, I could see how Chris could put two and two together. Either way, I think when it comes to this stuff, stop asking Chris to do the Michael Jackson, and tribute, rehearsed through everything. Stop asking Chris to take NBA All-Star weekend to focus on this when he can get bags elsewhere when you think he may be a liability already. Because this has happened to him a couple times.

Yeah. Just stop inviting him back on. So stop wasting this guy's time. But okay. Two things. Either stop wasting his time or everyone, not get over it, but time has passed. And you guys let a lot of other people with questionable history play all the time. Questionable history is not a questionable history.

question. Like we've, we know that there's guys that have been honored and celebrated and things like that have awards named after them. Carl Malone last year. Yeah. So like I'm saying why are we now drawing the line at Chris Brown? I'm not saying Chris did not make a lot of mistakes in his past, but we're allowing so many other people with worst pass. Yeah. To be involved in this shit and not pulling this sponsor pull out shit. Like either stop hitting them up or draw the line at everyone that has a questionable pass. Make a decision. I mean, listen, me personally, shit like this to me, depending on how you handle it, I think this is actually a win for you. I think this does more for your celebrity.

For who? For Chris? Yeah. In what way? Like, if you, if you're, if this is, if this is type of shit that's happening to you now, I think that there's even more of a demand to see you now publicly. So whenever you do pop out and go somewhere, it's a bigger deal. It's like, oh shit, like Chris is here or whoever is here. Like, because you know that a lot of events. don't invite him or her. A lot of events don't want you a part of it and things like that. So when you are visible and you are at these public events now, it's a bigger deal.

And I think it also shows, and I'm happy Chris, I hate the word exposed, but expose this and put this on his story because it shows the support. Not only, of course, we know the Chris Brown fan base is going to ride with him. Yeah. But people that are not the Chris Brown hive were on his side, which proves that this advertiser shit is bullshit. Yeah. People are sitting there like,

no, we're on Chris's side with this. You invited them to play, let him play, everyone's on this side. Clearly no one's going to turn off their TV because Ruffles doesn't want Chris Brown on the celebrity game.

I've seen mixed. I've seen mixed. A lot of people are like, well, yeah, that's the consequences you get for your actions, that kind of thing. I've seen both sides.

I saw much more in his favor that wasn't his fans. The fuck did I talk? And on top of that, I never saw anyone suggest that had Chris Brown played, they would have not watched. Even the people that were like, yo, consequences. Still watching it.

You know what sucks with this, though? They're still commenting on something regarding Chris Brown. But you can't, you can't blame an advertiser. If this is the advertiser that made a decision, not ruffles, but another one of the advertisers. You can't blame advertisers for wanting to protect their brand and not wanting to have anything they're paying for be associated with someone who had domestic violence issues.

That's bullshit. No, it's not bullshit. There's niggas in the NBA right now that have domestic cases open right now. What's the difference? That's the difference is. That's what the difference is. So now you talk. So now you talk, I don't deal with politics.

There are multiple conversations here. Now you're talking about politics, though. I don't deal with politics. I deal with right and wrong. People who pay for advertising do. But that's politics. So cut the politics aside. This is what Chris is saying.

This is all political bullshit. No, but there's a lot to it. Because say, say these brands, say Ruffles. Sorry, Ruffles. It's a chip. who gives a fuck. Say Ruffles ultimately works with Rihanna. And then Rihanna's like, well, this is the same brand that put on

Duss and stuff. Like, they're, and now you're like sacrificing your relationship for potentially with other artists. Isn't Rihanna and Chris Koodah? They've done music. They've been court-side. They've actually been courtside at an NBA game together. They don't know.

They don't follow that shit. Oh, they don't follow that though. They don't. They don't follow the fact that the two people that you're so like. They want Ruffles on the court, but they were court-side-go. They don't follow that. No, they don't. It's political.

These are all, all. All right, but let's go, let's get out the hypothetical. Because I actually believe Ruffles, when they came out after that and said it wasn't us, even though they were the one sponsoring the celebrity game. So that means it was someone that was just doing overall sponsorship commercials throughout the entire All-Star weekend. Yeah. At that point, how are you even attached to Chris Brown if you're just running ads throughout the entire weekend?

Because you could say you're not attached to any specific NBA player. Ruffles would be the only one I could see that you guys could say could have a point. because Ruffles is sponsoring the celebrity game. Right. And Chris is part of the celebrity game. Right. If you just running ads for All Star Weekend, you're not attached to any player.

Chris Brown is the one that's going to draw that line. I think this is absolute bullshit and he's being targeted in a space that other people should be. I think your initial point is the point that makes the most sense in terms of if you know this is going to happen with him, then just don't invite him. To your point, don't waste his time. He can get money to some doing something else.

Let him spend his weekend somewhere. useful, just stop making him a part of shit where you ultimately pull the plug on it. And you know how this shit works when you send out decks to advertisers. It's going to have a list of either the potential or confirmed guests. Like Chris posted like a few days before the All Star game that they were pulling out. Ruffles was well aware of who was on that roster. That's why I actually believe Ruffles when they're like, it wasn't us. He would have been known Chris Brown was on this shit.

Yeah, it probably wasn't Ruffles, but, you know, they're probably like, sick. We got Chris. Word. Because he can ball. Yeah, he's actually going to be. He can dunk. Like, well, either way, flipping dunk.

Either way you look at it, the fucking All-Star weekend got a real problem. I agree. From top to bottom. The All-Star weekend is suffering. These events. I don't even bother to watch a celebrity game. I'm just talking about the actual events with real NBA players.

It's bad. And I don't know. I don't know if it's, a competitive thing or just not the right players are agreeing to participate but the NBA has to

do something because I've been watching what seems like a decline for the past eight years maybe where it's just like it's progressively getting worse now the dunk contest the last dunk contest I could remember that was really really good

was Zach Levine and Aaron Gordon that was great which is what 2014 I can't know it was a while it was a while ago

but ever since then it's just to the point now the last the two-time defendant champion is now a guy that's not even

in the NBA he's in the gym he's not true he's a TikToker he played for the Sixers for one weekend and he's playing for the magic

for one weekend or whatever it was don't they have to like call him up technically no he went on the roster 10-day contract yeah

So. Well, let me know when he gets an NBA basket is all I'm saying. Okay, but if you look at, I guess, I don't have the answer to what the disconnect is, but outside of the dunk contest, you have the three-point contest that Damian Lillard, Brunson, Steph Curry participated against. That was cool. I thought that all was really cool. Steph and Sabrina was cool.

Outside of the dunk contest, you have everyone participating. I think the West, even though they lost, was probably the greatest All-Star team. we've ever fucking seen. Everyone on that team was of Hallfamer. Easy. I mean, Carl, Anthony Towns, I think is on his way, but. Put up 50s. Yeah.

Everyone participated. So, I guess not being a super sports person, I don't know, but there's a disconnect. Like, it's not fun, but every All-Star you could think of is involved in it. I mean, well, every all-star. Outside the Dunk Contest. The Dunk Contest is something that I think that they should, and it's going to be hard to do that, but I think that they should just look to move away from the Dunk Contest for a few years. You can't.

Bro, you have to, I would, you know what I would like to see? I would like to see a one-on-one. And I know players are not going to do it because it's ego. No. Those highlights would last forever. But it's just like, you have to bring something back or implement another event that's going to get people to really tune in. And I think that they should do things like track little beefs on social media with players

throughout the first half of the season when they play each other certain games and kind of engage like who would be a great candidate for the one-on-one at NBA All-Star Weekend. Like, you have to do something that's going to get people to be like, oh, shit, this has happened. Yeah. It has to be something like that. Play 21. Yeah, it has to be, it has to like play a one-on-one.

Yeah. Like, you know what I, if you told me, yo, All-Star Weekend, yo, Dame Lillard versus fucking, I don't, Steph or Kyrie. But everybody's watching that. That would have worked, I think, back in the day. before there was so much commentary on TV and obviously on the internet. Like, I feel like in Jordan's era,

that they would have done that just because of scrutiny, they wouldn't have heard as much. Like, if you lost, it wouldn't be the end of your career. Yeah. Now I feel like that's a social media nightmare. Like everyone's PR team would be like, no. I don't care if you're Steph Curry. If you lose, now you've got an asterisk next year.

It's the same reason why I think the dunk contest sucks because Braun never went in there. because he never wanted an asterisk next to his name and he could have carried that to make it more of a thing. Now it's just, you know, not bottom tier players by any means. Fuck that. But just- Astridge, fuck the, who cares if you don't win a dunk contest?

Like, that doesn't mean that you're not a great player. Everybody, it's only one winner every year. A lot of great players that were in dunk contests have lost. Nobody's like, oh, you lost that you in a dunk. That shit doesn't, that's bullshit. A lot of these players are just avoiding this shit for whatever reason and they don't want to participate.

It's all ego. Whatever it is. But it's like you just look at it now. A lot of these dudes are famous for shit that has nothing to do with basketball. A lot of these dudes are just fashionable. A lot of these dudes are just dating certain girls and we know who they are.

Get back to yo. You're at All Star Weekend because you're one of the best basketball players in the world. It has to get back to that. All of this celebrity shit and see who's wearing what before the game. Get fuck all day. That's bullshit.

I don't give a fuck with none of you niggas is wearing. Why are you at All-Star Week? Are you one of the best in the league? Cool. You need to be doing something to All-Star Weeking. Are you playing? No, you hurt? Okay, cool.

In the three-point, like, if you are in the league, the first half of the season and you scored a certain amount of three-point field goals, you should automatically have to enter the three-point contest. You have to. The top five guys have to cherry-picked, like, yes. That would be fired. You have to be in the three-point contest. There is no avoiding it.

Like, that's what it. has to be. And like for the game itself, incentivizing players with a cash prize, like what they did, when did they do that for? The in-season tournament. Literally skilled the in-season tournament rules. Do a cash prize. The NBA needs to implement a one-on-one for All-Star Weekend. That's something that I think will definitely more viewership.

More people will be excited to see that. Like, that's something that needs to happen. Bring into a one-on-one competition into All-Star Weeking. Get that skills challenge the fuck out of here. That shit is stupid. That shit is terrible. These niggas is kicking the ball and the stand. They're like,

kicking the ball and the stand. Kicking the ball. Get that shit out of here, man. You know, I think it was Drew who tweeted that the dunk contest now is like rap freestyles in 2024. It's cool, but we've seen it all. It's not cool.

Like, it's cool to see someone freestyle now, but we've seen freestyles that are better since time. It was like really a thing that mattered. Now it's just a cool thing. Listen. Mall. Would it be weird?

if they, if each NBA player did like a team situation with one of those IG TikTok dunkers, like the ones that are going fucking crazy doing backflips at the YMCA. If you had to participate, but you also get somebody from social media that can do that shit way better than all of you. And it's two on two. Like one NBA player versus one NBA player versus one TikTok dunker and one TikTok dunker. Yeah, but see, don't, it's like the battle rap duo. Ticktock dunkers is smoke. But you have to add in some flair to the shit. Yeah, but that's why I wouldn't be that interesting because the more interesting dunks would come from the TikTokers.

Which is fine, but if you implement the better dunkers in the dunk contest into that stuff, you're still getting your NBA celebrity, but you're getting more of an entertaining experience for the dunk contest. Right. No, it's not a terrible. At this point, they need something. They're literally bringing up, oh boy, from the G League just to make it work the last two years. So why not get a TikToker that can jump out the job? competition is to watch the best dunks that can be done executed. I don't care if it's an NBA guy dunking the ball.

Put in the white boy. No, but that's not what this is. I don't give a fuck who wins the award. Just show me cool dunks. This is the NBA dunk content. That's why I'm saying. So these are guys in the NBA. Mack McClung is some bullshit.

He's not an NBA player. No, but I agree with you. But I'm just saying you can't bring in TikTokers now to start doing it because now you might as well do this shit all-star Friday night and let them have that shit. Friday night. Let them do this shit Friday night. They did if they said, hey, we'll honor two separate dunk contests, one for the TikTok, like freestyle dunkers.

You can't put them as an opening card because it's better. Because they would look nuts. The NBA players would look nuts out of them. Of course, I agree with you. That's why you can't do it on the main night. You can't do that. Let them have it. You might as well just get rid of that shit, bro.

I'm telling you. Implement a one-on-one game. It's probably still the number one-rated thing outside of the actual game, though. Between three-point skill challenge and celebrity, remember when they used to do rookies versus sophomores, it's still the dunk contest is the pull. They guarantee you. What's it called?

Rising Stars versus they do a variation of the rookie versus sophomore. I guarantee you if next year, All Star Week and they implement the first one, well, they used to have one-on-one challenges. I don't know if it was All-Star weekend if it was like some charity game shit. I don't know. But I remember seeing Dr. J. versus like Hareem Abdul-Jabbar. So it might have been an All-Star Week in 101. Bring that back. Bring back the one-on-one.

You're going to see a higher viewership than you've seen probably in. the last 20 years. Oh, without question. Guaranteed. The NBA has to do something because that shit. Dave versus Steph would be, that'd be higher ratings than the finals. Are you kidding me?

Like, that's what I'm saying. They have to bring something. They have to implement something because at this point, this shit is approaching Pro Bowl level. Nobody watches the Pro Bowl. Like, who watches that shit? I don't know anybody. I'm like, yo, what you're doing watching the Pro Bowl?

Yeah, flag football. I'm watching Flag Football. Nobody watches that. So I don't know. But the All-Star game, I guess. was cool, whatever. Shout out to the East. They won. Most points scored in the All-Star Game history. Shout out to Dame Little All-Star Game MVP. And I mean, to close the Chris thing, I'm not comparing what happened, but you got Dremont shanking people visually from

from across the court, but Chris can't get in the Ruffles game? Yeah, no. It's just, it's political bullshit. Why was that okay? Am I the only one that found that fucking nuts? This is like being threatened on the yard. Yeah, I mean, you know. Yo, he's so sick, bro. Yeah. That is sick. He's not lying. I can see it in his eyes. No, he's dead ass.

That's my boy. I love him. I love him too. No. I don't. I fuck with Drake, Ma. He scares me. He scares you? Of course he does. You're so fancy. Did you see it? Well, I'm a joke, but did you see him with Taylor Rooks last night?

He was in his full, like, comedy bag. he was like the funniest, nicest guy with her. They were doing a little, like, live pot. I mean, you know when a pretty girl's in the room, you got to dig into your best joke bag. You know that. He was smiling the whole time. It was hilarious.

Somebody compared to they put a compilation of Charlemagne anytime Cardi B is on the breakfast club. With Charlemagne, he just not stopped. He's out of his chair. Like, ha, ha, ha. He's like, hey. And she's, ha. That's what they were comparing Traymond and Taylor.

Which, by the way, was the best part I feel like, of the All-Star game was the new crew. Yeah. Taylor, Chuck and Draymond was great. Chuck was getting his shit off. No, Charles Barkley is a character. And Kenny was drunk.

Kenny was going crazy. He went a little too crazy. Yeah, Saturday he went crazy. Yeah. He went crazy Saturday. I ain't a lot. I thought Kenny was going to get suspended for a few weeks off air. What he said about Sabrina was so bad.

Yeah. I understand what he said. The Steph and Sabrina thing, I get it. Sabrina called Steph out. And it was a great sponsorship of Steph to accept. that and show up, but I think, I could tell when Steph took his foot off the gas a little bit, he didn't want to

totally embarrass Sabrina, but he went out there and showed everybody. Listen, I don't know. See, the way you're even putting that out there is disrespectful to Sabrina. Sabrina could shoot her ass off. And that's the one event where it's like it doesn't matter if you're a guy or a girl, shoot or shoot or shoot. First of all, they shoot from a different

three point line with a different weight ball. Let's start there. She shot, she shot from the men's line. And she went first. And I'm saying that's not. It's not shooter or shooter at that point. It is. She's shooting from further away. Okay, yeah, Sabrina is a, she's a great shooter.

I'm not arguing. She's a lady, Nick. But I think that, I do think that Steph went out there. He won. But I do think that, I don't think that he was out there giving it his all like. You're tripping. I don't think so. I don't think so.

He made 29. He only missed like two, three shots. Sabrina missed one shot in her first five, six shots. It was a good. Sabrina score tied Dame score that won the fucking actual competition. I'm talking about Stefan Curry, though, who we know is the greatest shoot ever. I know, but you can talk about him without belittling what's... Who has the highest score and three-point shootout.

Sabrina has the highest score. Sabrina does not have a highest score than Stefan Curry and... She does. She has the record for three-point, whatever it's called, the competition. But didn't she lose? No, like... What you're talking about? No, like, in total.

How could she do that if she lost? Yeah, I don't know what you're talking about. All right. Well, in an NBA... In an NBA... In the NBA three-point shootout, Steph Curry has the record. That I do know.

But also that night, how? Well, I don't care. That wasn't... That was just a... Yeah, she scored 37 out of 40. That's the record. Either way... NBA or WMBA.

She has the highest score. I hope they continue doing this. I'd love to see Caitlin Clark do this. Oh, this season, sorry. Yeah, like, what are you talking about? Sorry, hold on, no, no. Because I know she has it. Shut up.

I'm talking... Because I know she has it. She does. Spas enough. You don't know shit. You're wrong right now. Shut the fuck up. What is he talking about?

You're wrong. Stefan Curry has the record. I know what I'm talking about. But anyway, that was a cool little thing for Sabrina to call Steph out and Steph to accept it and then go out there

and, you know, be Stefan Curry. Next year I'd like to see Caitlin Clark versus Dame or some shit like that. That'd be fire. Because, I mean, obviously she has potential

to be one of the greatest shooters ever. More importantly, Mole, I didn't really care about your NBA All-Star takes. I'm sorry. I just didn't. I thought it was underwhelming.

I was more concerned on if you were going to come in here today and defend your father-in-law. Who's my father-in-law, Benzino? Big, big Zeno. Big Boston. It's weird that you call him my father-in-law. Coil-Rae is your wife, no? You see them come on here plenty of times and saying, that's your queen. That's the one you die for?

Never said that. She said she's beautiful. She's talented. Okay. So in Podworld, that makes Zeno your father-in-law. You go together. Because I say somebody's beautiful and talented. 100%.

Well, I didn't know that. Welcome. Yeah. How you know. Okay. So that's your queen. Mike. That's your rib.

Coil, hooray is my rib. Okay. I'm here to learn, man. Fuck it. So Benzino was on Drink Champs, which actually the full episode is great. But of course, him having a fucking meltdown is what went viral.

Naturally, they asked him about Eminem like they do with every Benzino interview, which he should probably know by now. Mm-hmm. And I think he had a little too much of the juice and was a little emotional and had a full-fledged breakdown and started crying. I don't know if this is the first cryer on drink champs, but it was bound to happen with the amount of alcohol that's there. Yeah. Somebody had to cry. Well, Benzino's a crier.

We've seen him crying on TV a couple of times. The last thing I can remember was I think his ex-wife or one of his baby mothers, he was crying outside of her house because she's with a new guy. and she had him arrested. She called the cops and he was crying in that clip. And I think we've seen him cry on loving hip hop

a couple times. For sure. So he's a crier. He doesn't mind letting, he's an emotional guy that I promise you still will knock you the fuck out. Yeah,

one of those guys. He's probably crying because he doesn't want to knock you out because I know a guy that used to do that. He used to get emotional. Like, don't make me do this to you.

Yeah. I feel that. Like, you don't let me, don't make me do this to you, man, because I'm going to really get up from here and put these hands on you.

You don't want that. It's going to affect me more to kill you. It's going to hurt me more than it's going to hurt you. Which I always like, I understood that. You know you're going to be dead. Yeah. It's going to hurt me to have to hurt you. When your mother used to whip your ass and say that, that used to piss me all.

Yeah, I used to like, my, there's no way that hurts you more than it just hurt me. I'm hurt right now. Yeah, my back is fucking. I have whelps all over my fucking. You had time to think about it. Yeah. You're fine. I was wet.

I just got the shower. This was premeditated. Yeah. Anyways, can we play some of this clip of Benzino's meltdown? yes, and then it gets them got nothing

to get some of them that can wrap I think it's gonna be joining about us more I don't want go through

I want to talk about it no more I want for 22 years every time I do interview they ask me about

Eminem the fuck you want me to do stop doing interviews my daughter came into the industry figuring that hey

I got to be cool with Eminem because everybody's against my dad So what's weird about this, though, is at the beginning of this interview, he was very much like popping shit. Like, fuck Eminem. Yeah, straight up saying, fuck Eminem.

Fuck Eminem. I don't get a fuck about it. Yeah, yeah. And then like an hour and a half later. Well, that's how alcohol works. Yeah, that's how, you know, the liquor wants it to send your blood. It starts to, you know. The spirits.

Yeah, the spirits. Yeah, the spirits. And she should use this for an ad. Should they? The truth teller. I don't know if the French are going to co-send. Yeah, I don't think, I don't think they want to give a truth. Actually, I'm hoping that they probably hope they don't pan to any alcohol on the table that was theirs.

I'm surprised they didn't pan to Nori's face because I'm sure he was dying laughing. Oh, 100%. 100%. I mean, I get it, though. Like, if I'm Benzino, I am tired of people asking me about Eminem. I understand that part. Like, yo, why I don't care? Like, Benzino is what, 60 years old?

Probably somewhere close to it. Like, at this age, why are we supposed to be chilling? 58. We're supposed to be chilling. My daughter's in the industry. She's successful. She's been on stage performing at a Beyonce show. Like, why am I still talking about the beef that we had when we were like in our 30s? But if you want to continue to do interviews, which Benzino has the right to do and quiet is kept, one of the best interviewees. Like, if you go through his catalog of interviews, his story is incredible. I know we like to clown Benzino, but his story is great. He tells incredible stories, vivid stories. He's a part of hip-hop. He should continue to do them. But you don't think people are going to ask after this many years,

kind of the only real asterisk next to Eminem's name as far as his legacy goes. You don't think people are going to bring that up when Benzino was the one on the other side of that? I'm not saying don't bring it up, but for how many more years do you have to bring that up? Well, I mean, it just resurfaced again because they were just, they just wrote distracks to each other other day. But that's what, again, that's part of, that's part of what I'm saying. Y'all are still at this shit after all of these years. Like, so I understand that part of when Benzine, like, I'm tired of this shit. Like, it's been 20-something years of this shit.

Like, we get it. It happened. It was a moment. We understand what it was about. But Benzino has other shit that he could be talking about. He's done a lot in the music business and entertainment. Like, he's done a lot. But aside from the M&M beef.

So I understand him on that. It's just like, you're like, come on, man. I don't want to keep talking about. But in this at one point, he literally said, let's talk about it. That's why y'all are here, right? That's why he went on a whole rant about it. Before we got to this meltdown. Benzino said that?

Yeah, yeah. Well, because he understands, like, let me guess. Like, it's kind of like I, like DeMara said, we just had a little spat again for however many of time. That's what y'all want to talk about. But if you know you're that sensitive about the topic and would prefer not to speak on it, why would you? It's not about being.

sensitive to the topic. It's just that at 58 years old, right? And Benzino's lived a life. He's seen a lot of shit, been through a lot of shit, accomplished a lot. He's going through a lot. We know what is his daughter. His relationship is kind of strained there. So

it's a lot going on with him. I can understand how he's at a point in his life now where he's just like, like, bro, I'm tired of talking about this shit. Like, I don't want to talk about this M&M beef no more. Like, I mean, but I can relate to some degree. of feeling away about certain questions

or why we're talking about it, but when you've actively participated in it, even if you were the one just replying and not the one starting shit, yeah, no matter what, when you go out, people are going to ask you about that. So if you're prepared to go do an interview or a press run and whatever it's going to be,

you need to be prepared for those questions because they're going to happen no matter what. Even if you think the shit is played out, even if you feel like you've been on the other side and haven't said shit, you've still participated. 100%. people are going to ask about it.

100%. So your feelings on it don't matter when it comes to this type of. No, your feelings can still matter. Like, just because you participate in it and it doesn't mean that you're not tired of people asking about it or talking about it or bringing it up. Like, Eminem came at him. Yeah, but also. He has a right to defend himself and get in the booth and it's still hip hop.

So, but I can still understand even through all of that, Rory, your point is valid. But I can still understand on the other side of that, too, have been saying, like, you know, I'm tired of this shit, though. but you don't get to decide, and I learn this the hard way, you don't get to decide when the rest of the world is over it or when people decide to reply. Because for years, Benzino, even after the whole source shit, even after the dust settled with the M&M, N word tapes and everything,

Benzino was still doing interviews and discussing that entire thing. Yeah. We know M kind of disappears for a while and comes back. When you're on M time, he may reply to that shit three years later. And that's what happened. Benzino can't do years and years of interviews about M and just because M doesn't respond in a timely matter he can't get upset now because M decided to come out of his cave and say,

yo, I can't go at Benzino's neck because he doesn't have one. Right. Which was funny. Yeah, no, I get it. I mean, listen, it's part of the sport. But I'm just saying, like, I can understand at the same time a guy just being like, especially like I said at 58. Yeah.

It's like, bro, like, come on, man. Like, this shit is like, let's move. on from this shit like you know including benzino like you know so whatever m says like stop responding you don't have to respond to everything doesn't warrant the response we know that and and and if you if you're tired of it then be tired of responding to it as well you know what i mean like be tired of responding to it um we had to learn that as well just like just move on man just let people say what they're going to say people going to have an opinion people going to have a response and if you keep responding to a response, you'll be responding

for the rest of your life. But it's different you brought in you guys as an example, but like in your case, your tonality and what you said never changed. You know what I mean? Like you guys. And then so like the point being Benzino sounded like this at the beginning of the interview.

We're here tonight. Fuck Eminem and that. And fuck everybody down with Eminem. And my thing is this, bro. My thing is this. This is just, that thing ain't an example of how. They won't face me.

Yeah, but the point is, like, you guys never, it wasn't, I don't know because... Like, in one, your response video, you were like, hey, here's sorry, it wasn't like at the, at one point, you guys were like boisterous and, like, cut and doing all that shit. We drink.

You could compare... You could compare some of this to... Even though I think it's much different when you add context to it, you can compare this to me and leave me alone. I don't think that there's a big difference, but I could see someone on the internet, that's viewing this from the outside looking in

and only sees like the clips. If you put the right video together and put those side by side without any context, I would look like a hypocrite. Yeah, for sure. And we're on the internet, so context is not. But that's what editing does. Editing has the ability to make you look like a hypocrite.

For sure. And we all are to some degree. Yeah. But I don't know. I mean, I guess Zeno just needs to pick aside of putting all his business out there and living on that hill or just don't do it at all. Because you've done a lot of stuff with your daughter,

which we've disagreed with on this podcast about just airing out family business. But that's what you've decided to do and that's your family and your child, so you have every right to do what the fucking want to do. Pick aside. I agree. I agree.

I just think that Benzino, honestly, bro, just, you know, enjoy life, man. You're at that age where this type of shit is something that shouldn't even be on your radar. you should be, you know, playing golf, you know, on vacation, you know, just that type of like, hip hop has to, has to age gracefully, man. Like, we got to, we shouldn't be in our 50s beefing. Like, what fucking, what other job are people beefing in their 50s?

Yeah. Yeah. Is that a job you want to be in when you have to beef in your 50s? Beefing? I mean, what's most jobs do you beef at in 50 years old? I mean, they're not televised at Flex 20s. I guess Not seen that text, man

I know, but I mean he replied in his 50s, no. Yeah, but beefing? I'm talking about beefing. Beef, I'm talking about beefing.

They're not really disagreements. Everybody, you're going to have disagreements at the day you die. I'm talking about beefing. But are they genuinely beefing? Are Benzino and Eminem

going to run into each other and fight? If I think if Benzino and Eminem walked off the elevator and saw each other, it would be some static. Yes,

I do think so. I think Benzino would swing. And would hit him in the head with a coffee pot. Absolutely. That's what I'm saying. saying beef and disagreements are two different things. You can have disagreements at work.

I'm talking about beefing where it's like, yo, when I see this, we might tear this whole shit up if we bumped into each other. Only in hip hop does that happen. Only in this culture does that happen. So what's your age limit on beef? Me? I don't have beef with nobody at my age.

What I'm saying is what's your age limit? Because there's some people that have you saw you swing on them. So if you were in the same room with them, you might swing on them. Me? Yes. No, it's not. I don't have nobody that I would swing on if I saw them right now in the room. You would just shoot them.

No, who would I swing on? I don't have anybody in my life that I would swing on right now if I saw them. Well, that's evolved because I feel like a year ago that wasn't the case. I just said to date now. I don't have nobody involved. Yeah. Yeah. And I'm not 50.

Like, so I could like at 58. But that's why I'm asking. What do you think there's an age limit? I don't think there's an age limit. If it's warranted, I don't think there's ever an age limit. Yeah. If it's on beef, I think petty beef, you should probably fix in your 30s. What beef would you have at 58 years?

Beef I'm talking about. Beef from when they were in their 20s and 30s. Get the, at 58? I'm not beef on nobody for 30 years. That's what I'm saying. Who's saying? Go cook that beef, nigger. Go pull up on that, nigga.

50, you think I'm a whole beef with somebody for 30-something. I'm going to get the drop on that nigga with 30-something years and you ain't shake nothing yet. That ain't beef, yeah. Beef is two summers. And one of y'all niggas is dead on jail. Where were you going to get it? Where are you going to get it shaking with Eminem at that point? Because of pop from when that beef started to now, Eminem has been a superstar.

When were you ever going to see M? Get your lick at the Super Bowl? Like, when? Bro, I don't. So you got to just hold that animosity until you get on drink chance and start crying. No, but that's why you don't. That's why you let that shit go. Because you know Eminem don't go nowhere.

He never leaves his house. Like, you're going to see him at a Lions game. Like he don't go nowhere. So that's not even beef. You can't beef with somebody that don't leave their compound. You know how crazy that is? You wait and that's like, I'm going to catch this. No, you're not.

He don't go nowhere. Like, because leave that man, that's not beef. Beef is when this person is moving around and you moving around and it's like, ah, yo, where he at? We're pulling up over there. That's beef. 30 years of, yo, I'm waiting to see somebody. You never going to see that, nigga.

That's not beef. At 50, this is the only culture where you could probably almost. have beef with somebody at 58 years old. Ain't no rock and road niggas ain't doing it. Ain't nobody a NASCAR doing it. Prince and Mike. They didn't have beef. Prince was just the king of shade.

He would just throw shade. That's all. That wasn't beef, though. They'd been in the same room and it ain't that happened. Didn't Prince try to kill someone tried to kill one of them? What are you talking about, though? What's supplement you today? No, Prince did not try to kill Michael Jackson.

No, it didn't happen at some point. No, a big pharma killed both of them. That's it. Yeah. If you want to get to the beef. Yeah. America had beef with them. Yeah.

Like Prince and Michael Jackson didn't have beef. That's crazy. I thought there was something like, no, they had musical tension. Like who was better. It was never beef. Mike, Mike, yeah, Prince, he drove his car,

gasoline, attempt to run over Mike. That happened. According to Tyson's account, which Tyson is, Mike Tyson? This happened, yeah. What do you mean? It happened.

What are you talking about? That's not even. Yes, this is a story from Mike Tyson's, Oh, so we're taking a story for Mike Tyson who was probably Respectfully. Drunk and high the entire age. I remember this story becoming a thing. I don't feel like Tyson would lie about that.

That one time Prince attempted to run over Michael Jackson. Boom, I'm right. And I'm not also, I'm also not surprised if that happened. That doesn't sound far fetched to me. Thank you. Tried to run over Michael. So Mike, what was Mike? Mike was walking outside. I think he was walking to Duane Reeves.

Jackson don't even walk outside. What the fuck are you talking about? I think it was a case. And he walks backwards. He's behind himself. Leaving the studio. Yeah. It was in the same studio.

And then Prince tried to run over Michael Jackson. I guess they were at a James Brown show in Los Angeles. There you go. Show in L.A. Which is what the one that's aired when James Brown called them both on stage? Yes. Yes. So after that event is what they're saying.

Because Mike went up there and fucking moonwalked and did some spins and shit. And Chris, Chris, Chris, in Prince was jamming out. That's your whole point. Played the guitar, took his shirt off. And his legend would have it. Footed from that night would prove the superstar's face off or whatever. So it was a face off. moment and then afterwards they

felt away and Prince tried to chase him down this fucking car. I'm not I'm telling Big Cap. So I'm saying. This is a huge story. This broke in like 2018, but I remember this. I know how things happen. I've been at events and I've heard people give accounts to what happened. I know what

embellishing is. I know what adding flair to a story is. Prince did not try to run over no Michael Jackson on his car. Then did Prince leave the parking out aggressively? Like, Hold on. I want to know, was Prince driving the car?

That's something. It's just like, let's just stop, man. You've never seen Michael Jackson walk more than taking. With platform shoes on. The longest you walk you've ever seen Michael Jackson take is walking to the stage to accept an award. Mike is not outside walking anywhere. Like I could see Prince's SUV driving very fast past Mike getting into his SUV. Yeah.

I'd be like, damn, you almost ran him over. Yeah, like what are you talking about? Like, Mike was trying to cross the street. Like, come on. Like, now if you say Mike was crossing the street and Prince plowed over. some shit. Then it's like, yo, Prince tried to run him over.

Mike confirmed it. Quincy Jones confirmed it. When did Mike confirm that? Quincy Jones, producer Quincy Jones admitted that the singer prince had tried to kill Michael Jackson during a concert in 1983. How much proof do you guys need? Do you want to go through everything else?

Quincy Jones said in that last interview? It's a great interview. We can ignore the rest of it. He was on a lot of Coke probably. He was fine. But anyway, he remembers this. He remembers that. So I'm saying multiple stories from multiple reputable people.

From multiple people that were high out their fucking minds during that time. So? I remember mad. I'm not discrediting that that. this was a story. I apologize in that regard, but I don't believe it is what I'm saying. No, I think I'm rolling.

Thank you, DeVaris. Well, either way, Mike, I don't think Mike and Prince had beef. Was it like... Static. It was static. Was it competitive, you know? Yeah, for sure.

Did Prince probably throw shade if people kind of like compared him because of the whole, you know, they wanted him to do the thrill of video, a beat it video. And he was like, well, who's playing... Yeah, who all there?

Yeah, like, it was like, that Prince was like, well, and he was like, well, I'm not, you know, I'm not playing that part. Like, no. So then that's just, you know, that adds to the tension between Mike and Prince, but I don't think that they had, that's not beef. So what you guys are suggesting is that Benzino should have tried to run over Eminem with his car. If he could, if he had a chance to see him, he probably would. Now that I would believe.

But only in hip-hop. See? Prison Mike are hip-hop. I'm not believing that Eminem and Benzino never been in the same room in the past 20 years. I'm not, I'm not jacket. I'm guaranteeing they have it. What room would they have been in? I won't say room.

I'll say building. I'll say building. I won't say room. I'll say building. Where has Eminem been? Eminem don't go. He's not at. What a war shows is he at?

No, but I'm talking about when that B first started happening, Eminem was everywhere. What do you, like he was getting on arena tours. He was in his green room and hotel. And then we're at the VMAs? And then 15 years later, he was in a parking lot with Griselda and Royce talking about Donald Trump. Between that, he was. at his house. Never been anywhere else.

Eminem doesn't go away. The way you just describe that is like how people describe Jesus. Like he was born and then we don't know what happened in the middle. And then at 33 you got nailed to a cross. He was like, what happened in those dirty years? We don't, we're, no one talks about that gap. Eminem was probably outside in that gap. No, he wasn't just one year. If Eminem was anywhere, you would

know about it. Why would I, I would, I certainly wouldn't know about it. I'm just saying like you would, he would, he was a big enough star that if he's just outside anywhere, it's he's going to cause Panama. Like, do you think Eminem was at the same hookah lounge as Stevie J and Benzino in the last 10 years?

See, now you're putting Eminemna Hoogel Lounge. But to my point, like, where would they've seen each other? They don't, they don't, they don't, I don't know, the Pride parade. Not pride. There's this something you want to tell? Yeah, like,

why are you at the Pride parade? Well, I was putting, I was trying to make a joke, the call back to the reason why they're Benzino and John's performance? No, when M did the whole N-word rant thing, I was saying at the white pride parade, but I forgot the white.

Wow, that's a real bad. It's too close to the sun. If you forget to say white, it's pretty gay. Yeah. And you were there, so. At the white pride parade, yeah. Yeah.

And I mean, you know, picking up women. Same reason you go to an abortion rally because you know they're fucking. What? Rory. What? That's true, though.

And it seems like they take care of it if there's a problem. Anyways, everyone check out that interview. I know, I know Nori's dirty left rack endorphins started going crazy once Benzino started crying

I know Nori was so excited I don't want to watch that though It's a good interview There's more to it than him just having an absolute meltdown I'm sure Like I said Benzino has been around for years He's done a lot of accomplished

A lot of things in this industry And now you just got like the ammo You lost Officially the beef is over You lost Because you said fuck him And you were standing on yo He used the N word

He's racist fuck M Fuck M fuck everyone And then at the end You're crying And saying I would give him a hug I love white people Yeah that's a dub like it's over then the beef is over now it has to be yeah it's over the beef is over

yeah it's one of those where em is gonna reply because em's been annoying us lately but this would be one prior to what i've been saying about the girls beefing this leave this one alone em and m&m you want yeah this over this is i don't care about this type of shit what i do care about is this drake and sexy right video yeah because i think it's cat it is what do you mean it's wait what i don't think her water broke right then in there no oh of course not You know. Okay. You think this really happened?

No, I'm amazed that he has to come on here and say it's Kat. Oh. I'm saying it's a produced video. I don't have to come out on here. You'd be surprised. You'd be surprised. Yeah.

A lot of people think it's real. No, yeah, those people are idiots. I don't know. I'm just saying, because we have a podcast, we have cameras here. I'm just putting it out to the people that that's Kat. Like, I don't. Great video. I thought it was a genius video.

But people really thinking that her water broke right then it is. Like, no, I don't think so. And Drake just had a camcorder. You know what? And Cizza was in the... Cizzo was just chilling in the kitchen. Yeah. And the Christmas tree was still up.

Yeah. What do they call that? The woman, the woman that helps the pregnant woman? A dula. I was going to say medulla, but... I think that's part of your brain. Yeah, that's your brain. Medi, midwife, dula.

Same shit. So Ciz is the medulla or... Ah, fuck. She's not. She's a friend. Just stop. She's a feature on the song. Yeah, just stop.

Whatever you're doing, you're hurting yourself. But I thought it was cool. They tried to put it like with the old camera footage. They did a good job of putting the video together. Great job. Of course, it's bullshit, but I didn't think people would go in thinking it was real. Like, it's clearly set up to be a fun, cool video. My real question is, should sexy Reds baby father get some advice from Safari?

Elaborate. Because Safari had to sit side camera right next to the AD, right in Nicky's director chair, and watch her make out with Nas for a video. But that's your girl. She's doing a whole video rollout. You signed up for this. Your girl's a star. Drake rubbing my, basically my belly.

I'm going to feel away. I think he put his head on it at one point, too. Yeah, he was feeling for kicks. I feel like that's good luck, though. That's like Jewish good luck, you know? Explain. Yeah. You can't just throw that out there and not explain.

They're good at rubbing things out. Whoa Oh that's old terms Getting people out of Certain area I know what you're showing age Yeah I know what you're bad That's an old term

They're doing that right now I know but I was describing What they're doing right now Forget it It was a pause We got what you were saying But it's still a pause All right take it

All right cool But I don't feel like he should be upset Nah not for somebody Just rubbing your girl I mean everybody does that When they see a pregnant girl that they cool with. I just feel like you took it a little too far.

Because it's Drake? No, any man that would like do that. Rub your girl stomach? They were like cuddling at one point. He was really the rich baby daddy. Like he sold the video a little too well. Yeah, I guess I could see what you're saying. And we know Drake's not sleeping in that bed.

No. That threat count? Great Airbnb. I was literally just about to say, that's what Airbnb fucking rooms look like. But it added to the, to her whole. allure. Like it couldn't be a super crazy crib. That's not her brand. But either way

I think it's a great video. I just might feel a way of how Drake got a little handsy with with a baby girl or baby boy. That's all. Baby ski. You're telling me that's not the real baby she's holding in this video? No. Come on. Come on. You know what's funny? No it's sexy red. Maybe it is.

No. Wow. See? Maybe they really shot this during her being in labor. Doing this in the hospital's hilarious. Oh, did he get a McDonald's bag? Okay, Drake. That was a crazy product placement. Wow. Is that the Calida special?

No, that's the Sweetie. Oh, no, he's sending shots. That's a sweetie meal, yeah. Shots at Cal. No, shots at Cuevo. It's riding with Chris. Doing that while people are boycotting. McDonald's is a bold move.

But it's Drake, so he can do it once. I didn't know people were, like, really boycotting. Nobody's boycotting McDonald's. I don't know if we can get the numbers. It's a billion sold every day. Nobody. It never dropped to 99. Yeah.

Like nobody. Like we need to start just being real with these boycotts. You niggas are still going to Starbucks. You niggas is still going to McDonald's. And anywhere else that y'all was going to before anything online about boycotting began. Like, cut it the fuck out, man. Well, according to fortune, food giants are feeling the burn from the Middle East boycotts. McDonald's, Starbucks, and

Yum brands. I don't know who they represent, but. So, okay, so the fourth quarter, they didn't make $6 billion, they made $4? Well, yeah, I mean, you're scaling, but to success and financial security to us

is different what it is to them. If they're used to making 12, but they made seven, that's a hit. That's because of shipping. That's not because of us. That's all that is. Yeah.

It's because the shit is, you know, if they get it overseas. But hey, listen, man, if you boycotting, listen, man, salute to you. What did you think was better? the choreography in the hospital

with Cizad Drake and the strippers or the NYPD dance team. What do you think pulled it off better? I didn't see the dance team. NYPD is the most tone-deaf organization. We got some volume, real. Are these officers?

That's Mrs. Officer right there. Those are not cops. Yep. No, it's not. They have badge numbers. They could arrest you for a warrant right now. Those are not police officers. 100%. Look like a roller derby team.

They're on third ad right now. You haven't seen me? No. I'm laughing at just at your facial expression. This is Mayor Eric Adams, you know, moving $100 million from education. Naturally. And finding money in the budget for the most important piece, the dance team. Yeah, they got knee pads.

Yeah, listen, man, when they do the investigation into the money laundering and they got bandanas on. all they got to do is start right here with this video to investigate money laundering and NYPD. You know, having knee pads to slowly put your knees on the floor for one second. No, having the bandanas, the black bandanas. Crazy. Representing the NYPD dancing. Fucking gang. Who?

I mean, like, how do you argue defund the police when you have money for this? How do you argue? You know, public libraries are about to be extinct. Yo. And what is this for? What do they do? For morale. Yeah, I don't know what the promotional tool is.

Because those are not cops. Is this like when they're... You gotta make it more relatable. It's like when a white cop accidentally shoots an unarmed black eye, they pull up and they start hitting choreo as they wheel the body away. Well, you know, usually... Like, when they show up to like victims, like funerals of like police brutality and like... Yeah, you've been to the church when they have the people dance.

Like the... What's that shit called at black churches? Praise worship? Yeah, the praise dance. Yeah, this is like praise dance for... unarmed black youth being shot. Okay. This is praise dance for stop and frisk.

Yeah, it's not an insult. It's an honor. Yeah. And the knee pads are when you have to stop and frisk and just get lower to where, you know, they keep the money in. Because they keep the crack in their shoes. Yeah. But, Ma, those are actual NYPD officers.

Those are for sure cops. They're actual officers. They look well. They need to fuck dance. They need to get in the gym. Have you not seen most of the NYPD officers lately? They're all out of shape. Gym is dancing.

Why don't they need to get in a gym? You know what's crazy? Why do they consume me to get down on a floor in a dance choreography? You got to be in shape to be a police officer. No, you don't. No, you don't. Well, you should be. I agree with you, but you don't.

So if a motherfucker run on you, you don't just shoot them in his back because your fat ass can't run. That's my biggest problem with the right when they want a fat shame because I agree with them. We should fat shame. But they never fat shame the police. That's who we should be fat shaming the most. You got to be in fucking shaped. Yeah. Why is...

They got overtime for this for sure. I'm positive they got overtime. Why is everyone on the dance troupe a woman? I think this is sexist and it's singling out men. You think Back the Blue is also going to support male dancers? Because Rafi DeLuza from Staten Island was not doing hip hop dance. That's why. That name?

That name is sick. Guarantee you that's the name of NYPD officer. Look at Moss. This is what's happening. Mall is disgusting. Because I, if you're on YouTube, please watch. But thank God, we're shutting down. out in schools for the immigrants and give them debit cards.

I cannot wait until they investigate the NYPD. Eric Adams is already... At this point, now he's just making a show. You think you took them to Little Sister afterwards and then they had a table and the... Little Sister, I mean... Not judging their looks. They would wait in line.

Not with these moves. It looks like a high school musical. This looks like a fucking accident. This is what it looks like. This is terrible. This wouldn't even get sympathy claps at like a high school basketball game. Where it's like, oh, I mean, they tried. If they would have fucked it, I would have like, oh, okay.

Like y'all did that. Like, oh, sorry, Syracuse language, but like, fucked it up. Oh, I'm about to, like, wait. If they just started to fuck it. No. Fucked it. It means fucking. That should have been like, sorry.

Then it'd be a fetish. They came on there and started fucking up. Like, nah, we don't want to see them fuck. You know what I think would have probably helped out the dance routine. It might have been the footwear. Had they had the Trump sneakers on? Yeah. And you know Eric Adams is putting up the money to afford.

What, what they go for, $9K? Yeah, an auction. Yeah, I'm looking for those so bad. The January 6s? Oh, I need those. I need those January 6s, man. Those are some ugly-ass shit. I need those, man.

No, you don't need them. No, I need those. I'm telling you I need those. No, we all need health care. No, those, I need those in my closet. You will wear them? What would you pair of that? Hell, no, I wouldn't wear those.

I just need them. You put them next to the Martin and the Flies? I put them probably next to the mags. The maggas. Those are the magas next to the next to the ass. I hate that that actually makes sense. I got to put my maggas next to the mags. Well, Trump was selling these.

Well, this auction happened in Philadelphia at a sneaker con. And he was obviously the feature of the weekend. But he trumps sneakers.com. He had a website where he was pushing these dumb fucking shoes. And obviously they sold out. But I guess as he took the stage, there was a mix of booze and obviously supporters. So this was his return to a public facing.

And he came out to what, Carnival by Kanye Tai, right, I believe? No, he did. No, he did not. I swear to God he came out to a Kanye West. Somebody edited that, man. No. I'm not believing. Y'all don't have to stop this thing.

No, he walked up on the stage with Kanye West song. Yes, he did. No, he did not. If he was at sneaker, if he was at sneaker, did they sound design it, so it sounded like it was really in the fucking. I believe that before. I believe that Trump walked out for Kanye. It's not real. I know it's not real.

where are we talking about? Wait, Kanye's a supporter of Trump as men of a million times. Why would that be weird? Here's the edited version. Why would Trump walking out to a new Kanye record? At SneakerCon? Why would that be weird?

That would be very weird. So Kanye actually posted it, but this was not what they were playing. I knew that's not what they were playing. You ain't got to say that. Like, are you kidding me? You don't think Trump playing Kanye West after he's been taken off Apple

would be something Trump would do at a rally? No. I don't think that's far. He's selling gold sneakers and you wouldn't play Kanye West? No, he wouldn't. That's what I'm saying. I think what you're saying is way further than he would go.

He had him in the Oval Office. Yeah, but he's not playing. Standing on top of his desk. He's not playing his new record coming out to a rally for his sneakers, though. Doesn't Lou Bitton own the patent on the red bottoms? Can he get sued for that? No. Having red at the bottom of a sneaker?

Pretty sure Lou Bouton owns that. Jordan has sneakers. You go to Fulchre right now and find a sneaker that has red at the bottom of it. No, you can't. Julian, what the fuck are you talking about today? You're just spewing out random shit in your brain. That's, I, right. they have a patent on it.

It might be, look, it might only apply to certain brands. Like on a heel, maybe. But I know that they own some sort of patent to it. I sent you another version more of like the sporty workout version. You have those as well? Oh, yeah. Were those real? Or was this the only shoe that he was selling?

I don't know. These were kind of hard. These were kind of hard. These remind me of those Steph Under Armour ones that I played ball and that were actually pretty effective. The gold T on the side. side is sick. Yeah, those are kind of fire. Those are fake, though. Yeah, they are. He should produce that.

Those are good gym sneakers. And you know MAGA loves the gym. Yeah. Come on, man. You've never seen the MAGA supporter not in the gym. Two in reps for tea? I'm mad I couldn't get those, though. Ma, if you would have spent 9K on some Trump sneakers? No, that's just how much they went for at the auction. It wasn't going for 9K on the site. I think they were retailing for $400, $3.99.

Yeah. I could see as an investment, even. paying $9K for him, you're probably going to get your money back and a profit. Trump might, he might buy him back. I'm going to get those, man. I don't know how, but I'm going to get the maggas. Definitely getting the maggas.

Terrible fucking shoe, but you just got to have it. That's Trump, man. You've got to have a president sneaker. Are you kidding me? Do you have Michael Johnson's spikes from 96? They're the same? Oh, Michael Johnson wasn't a fucking president. Are there any other sneakers that you have in your that you have? Boy so funny.

That you have in your collection that you bought just to like have for the collection but you don't wear. Not many. I'll wear my sneakers. I don't have many sneakers

that I haven't worn. If I didn't wear sneakers that I have is just because I just haven't worn them yet. But it's not because I'm like, yo, I'm never wearing these. If I buy sneakers,

I'm wearing them. Can you think of an occasion you would wear the T-45s? Nah. I would never wear all-go-shoe like that. Maybe the, his inauguration. Hmm.

No? You wouldn't want to scuff him? Oh, yeah, because when you guys storm again. Yeah. They could get fucked up. Yeah. Step on them.

I would just wear them like, when watched it, like his inauguration speech in the house or something like that, put them on. Yeah, what? Take the photo just for the IG story. Yeah. And as soon as the speech is over, take them off, put them back in the box. Yeah. What fitted would you match with those?

That's a nasty, that's a nasty gold sneaker, man. It looked like wrestling boots. They do. It looked like Rick Flares, yeah. What made Donald Trump want to do this though? Why not? Yeah. No, I'm not mad that he did it.

But it's like, who was- It's better than Biden posting that fucking photo after the Super Bowl. I was trying to be relatable to the use. Anything Trump does is better than Biden. But this sneaker, though, like, what the- Who on his team was like, yo, sneak a con, we need your own shoe. Because obviously Trump doesn't, he doesn't need the money. But it's like, why would he create this shoe, though?

attention. We're talking about it now. Is that sneaker con? It's for a younger demo. And who does he put it to sign this? It's a good move. Like, even if I don't like the guy, this is a good move. I've seen this patent this shoot. This is like a creative wreck sneaker or one of those type of designer sneakers that are kind of like that nobody wears anymore. And they just put the tea on the side. Yeah. I could see Chanel making those 10 years. But that's not a Jordan one silhouette though. That's definitely no. Wait, who thought it was? No, I'm just say that's not because it's supposed to mimic that, but it's not. It's not that. That's like a creative wreck or one of those weird off-brand sneakers. While we're in politics and media,

has anyone been keeping up with John Stewart being back on The Daily Show? I haven't seen it yet, but I've seen amazing reviews. And I'm excited to watch. He's got some stuff under his belt so far. I like the approach that they're taking. You know, not to say that John, Stewart was completely left when he was on the daily show, but it leaned left. Let's be honest with each other. He's shitting on both sides. I think it's great. So far, I think he's been smoking everything he should be doing. He's killing Trump. He's killing Biden. It's funny. It's good writing. It's good delivery. So far, so good. I haven't caught that episode. I watched an episode with Bill Maher. He had Van Jones on

last week. I did see that episode only because I was in the room and it was only two HBO channels. That was it. Van Jones was on Bill Marshall? Yeah. Oh, God.

Yeah. That was just a person. Pertent off. Yeah. Who could out pretentious each other? I smoke weed. It's all fucking Bill. It's all Bill says.

I mean, it was cool, though. It's good to see. But the Muslims. Religion is gay. That's all like, it's all Bill. Can we get new rules? Can we get serious?

Yeah. New rule. If you don't smoke weed, you're gay. That's all he says. How much money did Van Jones get from? From Trump? From Bezos. Oh, from Bezos.

Oh, the show never came out. Like $30 million or some shit. He gave him a crazy number, right? And then Van just kind of like disappeared after that. I remember you and I were at Made in America when we were doing all those interviews. I think was when it dropped. And we were like, all right, it's but a couple of months.

Like, when is he going to put the show out that he got all this money for? Uncommon ground was the name of the show. No, but how much money did he get? How much money did Bezos give him? It was like just a gift. Like, he just gave it to him. Yeah, it was a 501-3-C charity right off. That's sick.

I was exaggerating with 30 million, but it was something fucking insane. I want to say it was more than that. And Joan. I want to say it was like $100 million. I think it. I want to lean with what Maher said. I'm saying $100 million. Receiving $100 million from Amazon founder, Jeff Bezos.

That's not crazy. He got $100 million. He's got $100 million. He got $100 million to go on Bill Maher five years later. Yeah, he gave him $100 million each. Him and the other guy. Jose Andreas, the chef, world famous. chef. How do you get on those lists?

Did you just get a honeymoon? That's the PR list you want to be on? No, just like, I have to funnel money somehow and let me put it into somebody that's forward facing. Like, how do you get, how do you get to that world? You have to be in the political space, obviously, but. Yeah, I know Jose in particular, at least from what I know of him, is very close with the, he's in the Clinton camp, very heavily. Oh, shit, here we go. So all you got to do is start Start digging just a little bit. Just a little dig. You'll find it.

I mean, if the Pentagon will ever pass an audit, we can find out if they were really giving John Stewart all that money they said they were. That's a big conspiracy. Yeah, but you don't want to dig. See, now you... No, I would like the Pentagon to pass one audit in their existence. Just one. Quickly, I like that new Glorella song.

I know we've been shitting on some of her music lately when she was doing that AI-generated data spit out. of whatever a record should be right now when she had the Naz Uchi Wally shit. That, yeah, Glow record is really good. Yeah, Rory. I mean, it's another obvious flip, but I like the way she did it.

And don't say, yeah, Rory, because that's not how the lyrics go. Yeah, Mom. Every next time y'all start cooking in an episode I would just scream that out. Please don't. But wanted to lead with love on that because we were talking off Mike.

I completely disagree with her post with Dame Liller. She posted a picture with Dame, and she said the caption was, who nigger this is because I want them. Which is funny. It's super funny. It's super funny. It's funny. I get it. It's funny.

But, you know, we can see how Dame's wife may have took some, you know, some kind of like disrespect to that, though. Because she did delete the, ended up deleting the picture. Ooh, did you see the second tweet she said? No. Whoever she is can't whip me so I really don't give a fuck. Okay, she dragged it. She dragged.

So did Dame's wife say something? Is that? Well, we'll never know. People probably was like, yo, he's married, he's married, and whatever. And to me, knowing your platform, and even though she does do a lot of the silly social media stuff, which I think is good, we know Dame is Dame and you are Glow. Two big platforms, Dame is one of the biggest basketball players ever. You can't just say that and not double check to see if he's married. It's disrespectful because also Glorilla, didn't Glowrella put up some tweet about dudes cheating and she was going to snitch if dudes were cheating?

like she was like I'm a leak your DMs yeah find that yeah well that's probably why nobody's DMs of course I know women are hypocrites but I'm here to point it out you can't put up those tweets of any dude that's in my DMs I'm gonna tell you a girl but then not

double check to see that this guy who's been publicly married for quite some time to put that up yeah well she's now you're living you know in women reality which is you know you can do whatever the fuck you want but when else can't do anything else exactly he's been married since 2021 by the way what does that change

Yeah, she tried to defend it. I'm not saying anything. I just feel like if an entertainer, but that's just me, if an entertainer says something like that about my husband either, I'm going to respond like, mine, sis, what's up?

Like on some funny shit, or I'm not going to say, I'm not going to make you take that down. I feel like making you take that down or saying anything about it makes you come off more insecure. And I don't know that she did that so I'm not putting that on his wife

because we don't know what happened. I think Glow knew she was wrong and took it down. But is that really, is that wrong? I just feel like as an entertainer, is that really wrong? I don't know. I think that it's, I get what you're saying. It could, because it could be just a fun caption, like just glow talking shit. It's just glow being glow, yeah.

But at the same time, if, you know, if Dame hit you like, yo, wifey kind of like took some acceptance to that. Can you delete that? Yeah, of course you should definitely take it down, but I'm saying that that shouldn't be a conversation. Because what if, what if I'm Dame and just took a picture at All Star Weekend like I did with the thousand fucking people and not knowing you're about your captioned this and now my household is in disarray when I was mind of my business. Why is your household in disarray over that?

Because a female rapper, a female artist that you took a picture with captioned it, who nigga this is? Because I want them. I like you and I won't you. He probably spent that whole weekend. That's what you said. Gloria said, I likes you and I want you. You probably spent that whole week

and taking photos of artists. But your next conversation point isn't okay, so what are you going to caption this? He took the photo with probably 100 people. No, I'm not saying he should have asked her what the caption is. It's just like, what the fuck? We just took a photo and now this is what you decide to caption it with? You would feel a way to.

Hip hop going soft, man. It's going soft. It's going soft. It's not hip hop going soft. It's not hip hop going. It's just game probably, you know, just the comments, just the shit went just another way that glow probably didn't intend for it to go. Like, all right, y'all really think that I'm trying to take him. Unless I feel like my husband a cheater or I'm worried about...

Not you. It don't have to be the wife. Yeah. It doesn't have to be the wife feeling away. It's just... Well, y'all said the household was in disarray. So that's what I'm... Who said that?

No, what I'm saying is if in this hypothetical scenario, if the household... Oh, if it caused turmoil in your house. Yeah, then it's like... I'm saying what I'm saying is... Because you don't want to cause that. That should never be in disarray unless you have doubts about your husband. Your household should never be in disarray. Nah, but you know how this new shit is.

You know how social media. but can influence real life and shit in the home. Like, you know that. First of all, I can trust my partner through and through, but still feel like somebody disrespected me based off an action they did that didn't have to do with my partner, but involved my partner. Like, if some dude puts their arm around my girl and is like, you're a fuck her, I don't think that my girl is going to fuck him, but he said that.

Yeah. Now you're disrespecting me. You can't see that even if you trust your partner, you can still feel disrespected by how the other person, was moving? Yes, but not when it's an entertainer who is not really trying to fuck Dame Lillard. How do you know that? You don't know what Glow trying to do?

I believe Glow's rhymes. Yeah, I think she live her rap. Yeah, I think she's telling the truth. She's signed to Yogadi. I believe her. I think she live her raps. I think she definitely live her rap. I can't blame anybody for being upset. I'm just saying I would laugh at that. Like, I would giggle, like, look at Glow being stupid, show my man, and that would be it. Like, it wouldn't. Nah, but see, all right, so now,

if you was an entertainer and Dame Lillet took a picture with you. I want to know who he was going to say. Like just to say, or any basketball player or... James Q, he can say name. Okay, so Dame Lily, right? Respectfully to wife.

He say, yo, listen, who girl this is? Because I want to... You don't think that if you go home and your man sees that... First of all, he just watched the game. He just watched this nigga with MVP. I'm not an entertainer. Are you listening to the answer?

You are in the entertainer. I said, if you are an entertainer... If you are an entertainer... Okay. If I... I am an entertainer, then my man should not be coming to me about what another entertainer said in a picture. What? Come on.

Bro, if we're into everything, because she posted it, the caption, all of that is for entertainment. She didn't send it for a Moochette and say, yo, but we've seen, nah, we've seen, but we've seen what people that put tweets out. Like, yo, who's this? I want them. And in two weeks later, guess who they with? Well, shit. Matter of fact, somebody from her label made a whole song called Down in the DEMs and is now with the girl he was talking about. 10 years ago.

If you could take them, if you could take them. If you could have them. Shout out to Godi. It worked. I mean, I'm with you on that. If you could take him, you could have them.

But you're not going to act like you're not going to act like you would just be like going to house. And your man is like, yo, what's so with Dame? Why he posting you and him in that picture? And early last year. And you're going to tell him like, oh, well,

listen, if you don't like it, you can leave. Like, you're not going to tell you, man. I feel like it's a little, y'all going to kill me.

But I feel like it will be a little, it's a little different with men. There we go. It's a little different. It is a little different. It's always a little different until it's time to pay the fucking bills

around here though. But also, it ain't a little different. Respectfully as. Then that's just the man's job, right? You right? I'm great. I'm just saying,

but it's always a little different when it's coming to shit like this. It's clear as dead. I just feel like if Glow really wanted, I feel like with women, period. And usually like, that's just the way they are because women are a little bit more sneaky.

If Glow really wanted, that nigg, she would. would have never posted it. You're not posting. You're not posting. Now you're talking about respect level. Yeah. Now you're talking about something else.

It's Dame Liller. We're not talking about some random guy from the bench that she actually thought was cute and spotted out. It's Dame Lillers. You have to respect his celebrity and his platform. She just took a picture with the All Star Game MVP. He's holding the trophy. He's one of the greatest of this era, like period. You hit two 50 footers in the time ago.

Are you kidding me? Like, she knew what she was doing with this picture and that. post. I can understand why somebody would decipher it as disrespectful. This is the one time that I fully believe women when they say, that bitch knew what she was doing. And that's what Dane's wife, I'm sure said. She knew why she took the picture. This bitch knew what she was doing.

She knew exactly why she took the picture. She knew exactly who he was. I think James' facial expression that says a lot. Dame rap, so she probably, you know what I'm saying? He knew. I think Dane just took a photo on the right and then moved to the left and was like, he knew how to look. Maybe they had a song coming out. Well, I was going to say earlier, he freestyled over tomorrow to at the beginning of last year and it was one of his most successful freestyles. So he's tapped in.

Call back. So you don't think... Callback. You don't think that's right. Tomorrow three coming up. You don't think that Glow knew that the after day. Yeah, the day. And now of a sudden it's like, is he married? Come on. You're proving our point more. They do have some type of history. Like I said, I can understand why somebody

would decipher as being disrespectful and I don't blame anybody for wanting down. I'm just saying me personally, I would have thought it was cute and I wouldn't have cared. But that's if I'm securing in my marriage. I wouldn't have given a fuck. Do you think Dane? The follow-up tweet is crazy, though. I don't get fuck who she is because she can't whip me.

Because now that is where I do. That's wild. That's disrespectful as fuck. But what if you can't beat Glorilla, though? You don't have to say that if Gloverly thinks somebody can't beat her. She ain't have to say she want that nigga either. Points were made. Sure.

So, fuck, if she's already saying shit. She shouldn't be saying. So fucking go all away with it now. That's an ongoing joke, like on socials about Method Man's wife. They'd be like, yo, every time like he comes up on a screener he has he's at an award show people always like yo can his wife like fight all the time they don't as disrespectful no mess wife definitely had wendy william shook at one point so if you're like you know the history yeah and i'm not going to get into it because it's you know

a little foul but yeah wendy was shaking in in her boots she was statue of liberty for a while that you know what that was fucked up right okay she also exposed that method man's wife had cancer so Wendy Williams can get whatever smoke she fucking wants. Yes, she was Statue of Liberty the whole time around Method Man's wife. She wasn't going anywhere near a fucking ferry. Anyways. Get your shit off. Damn, Roy.

I was joking. Now, I just don't like... Now of a sudden, Wendy Williams passing out is off limits when she's exposed everyone's secrets that isn't even in the industry. Like, Method Man's wife is mine of her business, didn't want the world to know she had cancer. And here comes Wendy Williams. Like, she has cancer.

Like, that's foul shit. But anyways, Do you think Dane brought up Katie's last verse that he put out over All Store weekend? Because Dane can rap rap. Do I think Dane brought it up to who? To KD.

Like at practice. Oh, I'm sure they talked about it. About the Katie show? With Stali? Yeah. Yeah. Which is good. I actually wasn't mad at Katie's verse,

but Dame raps. They was calling Katie, Katie Electronica. Yeah. He definitely had that flow. He took Jay Elect flow in it. He had an electronic. He did.

But it wasn't too bad. No, it wasn't bad. It was good. I actually was. pleasantly surprised that it wasn't as awful as I thought it was going to be. So it was awful, just not as awful as you thought it was going to be. Well, whenever you hear, like, real rappers,

like, real NBA players, like, like, Katie is, like, one of the best players ever. So whenever somebody, like, like, if you like the 12th nigga on the bench and they were like, yo, you know, son rap, you probably like, all right, like, because you ain't really playing much. So it's like, you got to have another hobby. KD is like, yeah, KD is like one of the greatest players

to ever pick up a basketball. You could have a setup in the hotel. Way games you're not playing. Yeah. Katie's one of the best basketballers ever. Now, if he's rapping you like, all right, but high his sound,

though, because, like, this nigga ain't got too much time to be writing rhymes. You can't be at good at that many things. Yeah, like, come on. Like,

we've heard the best basketball, like, Shaq is probably the best rapper basketball player ever. I think, I would say Dane. Dame is. Dame can rap. I mean,

no, well, Dame has, you're talking about Shack did that entire. Shack has had more success. He's the most successful. Sure. Okay.

basketball player rapper. He had multiple championships. I was literally just about to say. Fresh Prince, you know what I'm saying? Like Shaq is the guy. Shack won championships. He guys like platinum plaques. Like he's the guy.

Now, skill level. Basketballums with tallums. Right. Skill level, dame is probably better than Shaq. But I didn't expect Katie to sound. He really sounded, he got off on this though. He didn't sound bad at all. The lyrics are great and I'm not mad at the flow at all.

I think it's because his voice is so recognizable. that that's what fucked me up. Yeah. If, like, if someone else that I hadn't known was one of the greatest basketball players of all time,

I would have given it more props. Sometimes if you recognize someone's voice too much, it takes away from their, their raps and their delivery. I know your voice is something else, and now you just started rapping. And I know he's been rapping since high school. Yeah.

I wasn't like keeping up with his mixtapes when he was in D.C. and 16. Dane's the only one that I think is surpassed where I could just throw on a Dame album and not connected to. Dame is just a good rapper that makes good music. I just can't, even as good as Dame is, I just can't like,

it's like, nigga, you, nigga, you're nice, though. Like, you play ball. Nick, like, put this mic down. What are you doing? It's still going to always be that. Like, this could always be a passion. And Dame has made some dope records,

put out dope projects. But I really wasn't expecting KD to sound this cool. That's not his name. Dame Dollar? Yeah. That's his rap name. Yeah, Dang Dollar. Why are you hating on Dollar?

I'm not hating it. Don't do that. Don't do that. You're hating on Dame. That's his MF Doom, you know. Don Dollar, Life Lately Edition. That was his release last year. Which isn't bad.

Got a little Wayne. No, Dan put out some good projects. Wayne's on it. I'd like to hear more from Katie in the Austin. Yeah, I want to hear more from Katie now. Now I want to hear Katie put together like some songs like by himself. Sit him some beats, right? I feel like Katie's, because I,

I know he's such a, like, real hip-hop Grizzleda-type fan. He's going to want shit with no drums. Fall on pianos. For sure. Katie is going to want no drums throughout the entire thing. No drums. Why do you guys say that they, that's the Grisota sound, no drums?

It was for a long time. Don't deny it. No drums? They have drums now. But that piano loop? You can't just have a piano loop and a great sample and one kick and say that they have drum. It was great music. Yeah.

They just had to evolve back into drums. Yo, I like that new, uh, Flo Millie record. Is it, I don't know if it's new or not, but I heard a Floom Millie song. He's speeding on my Coochee. Yeah, that song is a right. I like that record right there. Where was you getting off to that? I saw it on somebody's, uh, somebody's Instagram,

but I didn't know who, who, who song it was. And then I, um, looked at the video and I was like, oh, no, the song's all right. Okay. I mean, lose me. Yeah, Flo Millie. That shit is all right. I like that record. Yeah.

I like Flammily a lot. Do you see the Roots picnic lineup? I did. And I didn't really want to talk about festival shit, because I always come in here and shit on festivals now. I have to get positive vibes where positive vibes are due. This is a great fucking lineup. This is an incredible fucking lineup.

I said that to worry like, oh. Lovers and friends, of course, is amazing. Other than that, it's been fucking awful for the past year and a half. Roots continues to deliver. every single year the lineups are insane Jill Scott, Lil Wayne in the Roots with PJ Martin

that's gonna be crazy Nas Gunna Victoria Monet Black Thought with Method Man and Red Man for those that don't know Black Thought they're gonna create a mixtape live

where he's just gonna wrap on all the Method Man and Red Man shit just put new verses on it Fantasia and Money Long together for the legacy shit Scarface Scarface Amy Reed Backyard

I said, don't give up an Amory. I can't. To the camera. Okay. When that's the ball alert, the go-go back yard band. So you know what the Amy Marie record is going to do with that man. Oh, yeah. I mean, it's a go-go record.

Exactly. That she's going to be crazy. Sexy Red, baby face, Gilly Wallow. You can see three stacks play the flute. Which is crazy. $100,000, new blue sun live. Robert Glasper with Yeba. Robert.

Robert, that's what made you send it to Rory. Black Odyssey. Like, yeah, this is. This is great. Cameron is great. Juan Epstein. O.G.'s a podcasting. That'll be a great stage.

Yeah, they continue to deliver every single year. So I'll be there like I am every year. We had a good time last year. Yeah, we had a really good time. That was fun. I mean, we were pretty arrogant and how we just pulled up straight to a stage when we were performing.

But, you know, we'll figure it out this year. We just drove. We pulled up to the gate. Yeah, like, where's your passive park? I was like, no, no, no, I'm good. You got on like his TSA shit. He was like, I'm good. He does that.

He does that everywhere. Veered around the barricade and then just pulled up. Yeah, because my Mazda can outrun your little golf cart. You can't take those hills in Philly the way my Mazda can. Yo, Rory, when he get on his shit at festivals, when you don't let him through a gate, you got to see Rory when they don't let him through a gate. He get on that phone. I'm just like that too, though.

Yeah, because y'all both Cairns. That's why. So? Rory be likely. Wait, when Rory get like this, both hands on the phone? Put the cross shoulder.

I don't know who he texted, but somebody's going to show up with a lamnion. It's because it doesn't happen. That's fine. I don't know who he texts. My dad, the judge, is going to show up. Somebody's on the way with a lament immediately.

The lanyering in a wristband. But that didn't happen to us at all. At Roos. We were fine for the most part. Well, they questioned you about where you decided to park because that wasn't a parking spot. Yeah, and then we pulled into the real life. And then while they said, they're like, this is for a certain level of, and you were like, I'm here because I am that person.

And they were like, no, you're not. And then, yeah, we were. And then who came and I'm here because I am that person? No, you're not. Get you and your car to fuck out of here. You're not that person. Get the fuck out of it. But that lasted all five minutes. And then somebody came and was like, you can park in this lot. Yeah. Which was even closer to the stage. But we did pull up with no, no nothing and just it worked. that is hilarious man I love seeing shit like that with Rorydow because I don't really don't give a fuck I'm just like man we're able to fuck we need to stand

cool I just want to hear the show Rory though you can't tell him he can't stand somewhere he's getting on the phone two hands and a laner a credential something is on the way ended up we did it we did end up on stage for Usher's performance which was insane

and they were really on like keeping that space limited with very few people and somehow we both like kind of hovered and kicked it. Am I not allowed to enjoy the fruits of my labor? At a festival that you weren't invited to? No, it wasn't. First of all, we had legit, I didn't just fucking pull a car up and told a cop,

yo, was good. And I legitimately had passes for us. We didn't have them on us. Yeah, like, oh, no, no, the finesse. The finesse came because I didn't want to park. We didn't have parking passes. We could have parked like where everyone parked and then walked super far to go get our legit passes.

I was trying to park in the backstage parking lot so we could just pull out at the end of the night. Oh, yeah. No, that's just what my pops taught me about finessing. Yeah, we had real passes. Okay.

I thought you didn't have no real passes. I didn't just show up to the roots picnic like, yo, it's me. I see that, so that's what I'm saying. That's where, this is how. Yeah, that's where I'm thinking you.

I'm arrogant. I'm not that fucking. Okay, so then no, then that makes, okay, that makes all the difference. Then, no, you pulled a move that you were supposed to, yo, it's me. Yeah.

No, then you were all good. That was just my dad teaching me. We buy bleacher tickets, but we're going to be in the front row. We're allowed to be. We're going to be on a third base line. Don't you worry about it. We're just in the building.

We're going to get down there. Yeah. And you know, Roots picnic, that's a far walk. Yeah. That's a hell of a walk. The regular shit. It does a like a great lineup, though. I'm not sure if I'll go, but it does it like a really good lineup.

I might want to see. I'm down this year. I might want to see 1002,000 live, though. Just because it's three thousand. Is he vooding? Yeah. Are they doing it at the actual festival? because last year Chappelle was like in the arena at night or some shit.

No, he'll probably be there. He'll probably be at the park. And it's still at Fairmont Park, though. Yeah, it doesn't specify if Andre will be on those grounds or at a different venue. I mean, you'd imagine he'd be main stage. But that's a very big stage. Like, I just want to watch people watch Andre 3000 play a flute on a festival side. After Nas.

Like, just like, just watching a flute. pretend like they care. And you know the roots crowd. They think they're pretentious and understand every type of music. They're going to sit there like this is the greatest thing. They got to let Quest go up there and like drop a drum rhythm or something. Just do something in the bag. You got Andre 3000 fucked up.

If you're not supposed to be on this stage, you ain't going to be on this stage. I'll be honest with you. I'm not, as much as I am a hipster pretentious, I think it's cool he's on the lineup. I don't want to see Andre 3000 play a flute on a festival stage. I'll catch him backstage. You want to run into him in Soho, which you've been begging for for the past 10 years, but you don't want to watch him play a flute?

Yes. I would watch him play a flute at, like, the blue note or even one of the smaller stages at Roots. Like, I'd sit on a blanket and watch that. You bent to Roots picnic. You know how big that stage is? Yeah. With a bunch of people just standing there, staring at someone to play the flute. No, I'm cool.

I mean, it's music. It's going to be a band. I think there's going to be a band. I think there's just him with a flute. I mean, there's some. Have you listened to the album? It's not much... Yeah, you'll have some strings and some keys.

It doesn't really get in its bag. I want to see it. Yeah. I want to... How long is that? One song? No. You want a 45 minutes?

I don't say... I'm not saying, I don't know... Yeah, my not. 45 minutes of Andre just playing whatever music he just put out? Yeah, I'll watch that. I'm going to go get a great. Why not? Rolls have reversed.

I thought I would be the one trying to... Yeah. defend that shit. I don't really care to see that. No, I definitely want to see 100 to perform. I think it's going to be special. I think he's not. I think he'll add some different elements into it. He is on a... Yeah, I think so.

I think so. I think it'll be worth it. Money Long might have a classic on her hands, by the way, with that damn song. I haven't had a song stuck in my head like that for a long time. What is it? Nobody? Oh, yeah, it's a good record. It's a really good song. Stuck. Shout out to B. Cox and Jermaine Dupree. Stuck in my phone. Yeah, that is a really good

I don't know about classic yet, but I think it's on this way. Oh, speaking of which, I have a contender for songs that might get played in the club that came out after 2020. Okay. In 20 years. That might get played in the club. I'm not saying it's a classic, but I think it will still get played. Back in Blood by Bouchoistie. That's a good club record.

That was after 2020? I'm pretty sure. It might have been 2020 on the dot. I feel like he was lucky. 21. 21. Okay. I was going to say I was Atlantic at this time.

I remember that was a big release. I can hear that still being played in the club and it's still going on. So you could see that still being played. You could still see that being played but not first person shooter. Yes, because that's still being played in the club and they don't play first person shooter in the club. I was going to say, Maul, you were getting killed for that take. Don't play that in the club. Did they play that highlight room, Julian?

No. It was R&B night. Cole's own DJ was there and they didn't play it. It was Cole's DJ that was doing the music. He played in the morning. That's wild. Love that song. Great cool.

Like on the walkout? No, because he is like, you know how to train. Sure. I mean, he's an amazing DJ. Yeah, he knows what he's doing. I missed the era when the last song they played at the club was Marvin's room. It was great time. You don't want to leave.

It was the perfect like walkout record lights come on. Closing the club is sick. Like, think about that. Oh, it's sick. Especially in New York. But yeah. Closing the park. Like being there when like...

But that was back when we were young, young, though. No, that's what I'm saying. But just think about it now. When I was out in LA, we owe me, we were at an apartment 200, and it was like getting close to that part. I was like, I'm not staying here when the lights cut on because this crowd, it's a nasty bunch in here. I'm not trying to be hovering outside.

So I dipped. I got the fuck out of there. Closing a party down. I'm not doing the close here. I mean, you did fall asleep at the afties, though. Oh, that was a different night. I did. There's some embarrassing photos of me.

I'll share with on Patreon. I was passed out on. the couch with a dog for like an hour and a half. At an afternoon? Who's dog was it? Whose dog? It wasn't even my friend's dog. He was dog sitting.

But it was like LA crew of homies and they were. Okay. So you knew these people. Oh, yeah. It wasn't a random. Oh, that's what I'm like, I'm looking like. You didn't know the dog though. No, it was very cute dog.

But it was your friend's dog. He was dog sitting. It wasn't even his dog. Okay, but it was his dog for the night. For the night. So Julian and Yomi and Roe were out here getting young wild and reckless. in LA. REL like, don't put that out there.

Don't put me out there like that. Rell like, nigga, I was editing. Rell, like, I was editing. I don't know what you're talking about. I was editing. Me and the last night, me, Rell, Yomi, Kyle Deion, Kia, and Amara all went out and got some food.

That was a nice, nice calm setting. We y'all went. Kyle swore me to not give the spot up and I agree with him. It's a secret spot in L.A. that has probably the best fried chicken taco I've ever tasted in my life. It's like a Seoul House vibe,

but it's not as potentialious. Yeah, like you don't need a membership, but it's like first come first serve on the tables. It's like if you know, you know. It's what Sohouse started at. Gotcha. And yeah, that place was great. Cool.

But yeah, we were on our low-com shit. But after you left. I mean, we left, but yeah. Where'd you guys go after? Apartment 200. It was lit. You kept talking about that spot. It's great.

Well, it's a Canadian. thing. They're expanding. So the first official one in the States is L.A. I heard Joe Roy's gay asses were cuddling watching the Vince Staples show. Like binge watching. Cuddling is a stretch. They were binge watching the Vince Staples show together apparently.

In between shooting. Yeah. Episodes are like 20 minutes. I'm watching. I was about to say the episode is 20 the whole season is probably like hour and 10 minutes. In total, we were sitting down for an hour. Yeah. Well, I mean, we were within cuddle range. We were close.

No, we were. I was out. No, it was like where I am in that county. It was far. I was like, no, you were way over there. I was way over here. I was in, I passed you the phone for a food order, so we were in. You got up, you stood up to pass the phone.

No, that's the day. You didn't lay over on the couch. Was it Wednesday? Was it Wednesday? Wasn't our Valentine's Day? No. Oh, no, it was thankfully. No, it was.

Thursday? I think it was the day it came out. It was either Thursday or Tuesday. National Side Chick-Chicks day. Sure. with that said, did you guys watch the entire season? I did. I watched the entire hour and ten minutes

finished it as well. Last night. Pretty good. I think that this is probably like his trailer of what like a real season of the Vince Stable show could be. Yeah. It's it it was incredibly funny.

The perspectives were incredible. I mean, but Vince is a personality is you know, that was never in question. I think the bigger win of the entire thing is kind of what you're saying. Like, Netflix only wanted to take so much of a risk. Yeah. And Vince took such a good opportunity and over-delivered on the small bit that they gave him.

They gave him a small window. He proved himself times 10 with these five episodes at, you know, 20 minutes a clip. If they don't give him a bigger budget and actually do season two as a real series, I think Netflix is dropping the ball like he would not believe. Vince overdelivered. They gave my inch and I think he took a foot, pause. It was incredible.

Everything about that show was great. He did a good job. It felt like a lot of different series. It felt like a little bit like Issa Ray Show. Insecure? Insecure with a little bit of ATL, I mean Atlanta,

but a little bit of little Dickie pause. It felt like a little mix of all of that but just with Vince's personality, his sense of humor, obviously playing on a lot of things growing up in his neighborhood, his childhood, things like that. I thought it was dope.

I really enjoyed it. Yeah, I mean, what I liked that was different about all of those, despite Atlanta, Dave and everything, it was Vince's point of view through the entire thing. Whereas Dave's, yeah, it's his point of view, but it is very much industry. It's hilarious in that regard. Atlanta was all over the place in a great way.

You didn't even really find out until the end, spoiler, that it was all through Darius's point of view. Like, this is Vince's point of view. And I don't know very many shows, especially in our genre that are direct points of view from one person. And Vince, I think, knocked it out of the park with how he did that. Other shows rely on so many other perspectives. That was just Vince's point of view through and through the entire thing. He's the main character the entire time.

It's Vince's POV, where other shows have to rely on a bunch of different characters. And again, that comes with bigger budgets. but with what Vince did with his opportunity and budget, it's perfect. Yeah. Like, I don't even want to compare it to Atlanta or Dave or any of those because it's, it's its own thing. No, it's definitely its own thing. I'm just saying that it felt like one of those.

Like that's how I work, because all of those to me are great shows. It's like hyper-realism. Yeah. Like they're playing themselves. They're playing themselves a little bit. Yeah. The situations, location. That's why I kind of felt like insecure.

There were a lot of things, LA or Cali. And then, again, just Vince's sense of humor and who he is. It just felt dope. I wish it was a little longer. But I do understand that this was probably the window that Netflix gave him. But again, what he did with it was incredible. And I definitely seen him giving him a budget for season two, for sure. They definitely should.

What was your favorite episode or scene throughout the entire thing? Um, my favorite scene probably was when the dude was chasing him, shooting him with white boy. That was when Vince changed and then he went through the drive-thru with his son to get the food and then Vince had them little shorts on with the shirt just popped up in front of the car. I was like Vince, how do you keep bumping into this nigga? Like how many blocks are y'all running around? Three blocks? Which was a callback. It's fit.

Yeah, it was from a reference to a. What movie? Was it Pulp Fiction? Something like that? The Santa Cruz bananas, the shirt that he wore the exact outfit was a callback to another film. Yep. The bank scene is fucking hilarious.

I mean, the Black Business Bank episode, episode two, where he's just going to bank to try to get a loan and then it gets robbed by his friends. Yes. I mean, to me, that's just a classic 20 minutes through on that. That was dope. There's not a missed moment in that entire thing. Yeah. That was like exceptional writing through the entire thing.

The ending to that episode, too. with the guy just genius yeah um relatable now the family reunion where the mom is dragging his girlfriend

throughout the entire thing was like so relatable to the last few who made who made the mac and cheese few holidays that I've had of just your girl having to deal with your mom and like she's like no you're

you're with me now yeah yeah that shit was great yeah it was great man I enjoyed it did you guys finish uh Mr. Mrs. Smith? No. I haven't. I tried to get into the first episode. I have to sit with it.

I finished it last night. It's really good. How many episodes is it? It's only eight. Okay. Yeah, longer though. I pause. Then Vince's show, but it's well done. And it leaves, the ending leaves room for them to rinse and repeat this cycle, however many time I want. With different people? Yeah. Yeah. It's good, though. I really like that. I'm going to start that, because you keep talking about that. I got to check that out. Yeah. Well, highly suggests the Vince Staples show. Shout out the Vince. Great job, man.

Did not disappoint. Well worth the wait. Yeah, I can't say enough about it. But voicemails. You've got mail. Yay. Okay, so this isn't a question. It's more of a comment on a conversation we had. Remember we were talking about the difference between policemen and firefighters? Yes. People prefer policemen. Sorry, firefighters to policemen.

Well, someone called and provided some historical context about why they both suck. And I just wanted to play us with you guys. Hey, fellas. This is your boy, Glitch from Connecticut. I was just listening to episode 242, the Super Bowl episode, and you guys have some quick banter about how firefighters are less racist or, you know, how Julian said they just have, they don't shoot people. They have less responsibility and they don't like kind of throw their authority around.

But I did want you to understand that white cops in the 40s, 50, 60s, anytime in American history, if there are black people in a burning building, would leave those bodies there hearing the screams. It's just a different kind of shifted racism where it's like you don't have to act. It's like if a cop saw two people getting down, they didn't do anything. It's the same thing. It's like, oh, those are black people. I don't do anything when it comes to that. So the firefighters, and you can read tons of stories about it happening in Alabama, they would hear black children screaming in these houses and just say, I want to go to lunch or like, what's going on? So racism exists everywhere.

Once you really think about it like that, you're like, oh, this is like, of course, of course, why not? But I just wanted to just, you know, reach out to you guys and say that. Love the show, love the pod. Keep it up. Take care, guys. Thank you for reaching out. I fully understand that white people allowed black people to burn back in the day. Happy Black History, Month.

Back in the day, shit. I wouldn't be surprised if that's happening. Today, too. Well, he was suggesting at the beginning of the voicemail that. Historically. Yeah, he was putting dates to it in decades. what um i guess i'm more curious that's not happening now no what

you think that five firemen are letting black people burn in buildings in 2024 maybe in certain parts of the country yeah i would say i think there i think it's been proven they've been slower to respond to react to calls or or like you know radio responses because of the neighborhood or the kind of people that they're reporting to i think the argument i would have made is

look like police when they kill people it's more public facing because it's on camera we can see them shoot the black person that was holding a book or whatever a toy car and we can see it with firefighters it's like okay those calls are made they're supposed to go to the scene but they choose not to so it's like they're they're assholes but you're not seeing them do the thing they're choosing to just ignore i don't even think it's ignore because if you ignore that's accounted for right i'm sure they have systems so count for that more just like slower to action it's like kind of the same thing where it's like if you call the cops in this neighborhood, you know the cops are coming in 9.5 seconds. If you call the cops in another neighborhood, they're slower to get there.

I'm sure I would not be surprised if that applied to public figure. That's based off zip code. Because I would say when we were initially making that point and joking around saying that, yeah, firefighters get a better rap, but I was suggesting him with Irish being the majority are just as racist as police officers. They just have less power to harm people. Yeah. And we're talking about the FDN. why. The ladders are pretty based off the neighborhood. It's not like you're going to get a ladder from an affluent neighborhood in New York City that's going to be late to a call in a poor neighborhood. The ladders are specific too. Right there in the neighborhood. Yeah, like,

that's what I said. They're not going to be late to a call. It's their neighborhood. Like, you, we notify them on, like, one of the blocks where I used to be on them with my cousins, the fire house was right next to my cousin's building, literally right next door. They only have so many blocks to, if, if the ladder is in a poor neighborhood, they don't also have a rich neighbor for the most part. So they're not going to be slower to one block. In the South, I'm not saying that can't happen or in certain suburbs. But yeah, I guess I don't fully understand.

I agree with what he was saying. It's like his homes. It's not even a lot of like, you know what I mean? It's not like the same like if you've grown up in the inner city. I feel like in North Carolina or something, one firehouse could also do a rich suburb in a poor area. And if they get a call to a certain area, maybe they'd be. Slower?

Yeah. I just, I don't know. I'm sure that I think, of course, that was a thing for a long time, but I don't know now. I just can't see that happening now. Can I miss this point? No, I mean, I think he was just providing more of like in the terms of history, they've done things that are equally as, you know, harmful towards poorer communities, black people than like that we thought was actually happening.

Like, I guess, I guess if we go on the history and again, we were speaking about FDNY, So that's what I'm going to speak to. Bensonhurst is a historically racist neighborhood. You can even say to this day, to some degree. The few firehouses in Bensonhurst are only serving Bensonhurst. They're not serving Flatbush. Like that's how they work out here. So I'm sure the Bensonhurst firefighters are racist,

but it doesn't really affect anything because they're serving the Italian community that's there. Or now the Asians that moved in over there. They're not going to show up. Yeah. Yeah, they got to keep a job. I think the guy that called widened it, widened it a little bit to maybe net. Yeah, that's why like,

I agree with what he's saying, but that's not what we were talking about. Oh. We were talking about out here that all firehouses are a lot of white racist people, but they work in the hood and they go there and put fires out. They do. What do you want for me? Am I wrong?

Anytime in the hood you call the fire department, whether there was a fire or not, they pulled up. Yeah. I mean, I don't know exactly. Was it seven minutes after you called, eight minutes? I don't know. They pulled up. Because if firehouses are going to be late here, they're going to be late to every call them.

Exactly. Because they go to the same neighborhood the entire time. Exactly. Speaking of cops and response calls, I found out today on the news that 8.5, I want to say, percent of policemen deaths are from domestic violence calls. They say that's the most dangerous call you can get as a police officer. It's a domestic violence call. Yeah, especially when the girl comes.

come out to my no, don't arrest him and her eyes hanging out here. It's like, get the fuck out the way. Like that's her fault. Like that dude, that, that family that got killed. That's not what Mall was saying. Don't put that. That's not what he said. The family that got killed in Brooklyn, the father and the son.

See when the wife was in the whole way, she was pulling him. It's like, you pulling him and you pulling him trying to get him to come back in the house. He turns his back. This dude pulls a gun out. That's domestic. That's how it goes. It's like, yo, like, so I could definitely see. cops going through that type of shit for sure.

And also people who are domestically violent. If you'll hurt the person closest to you, you definitely shoot that cop. 100%. Yeah. Give a fuck about that cop. But then that's where I'm conflicted in the defund the police category of, all right, domestic violence calls, we should send a specialist. Like, I don't think we should send an aggressive, scared cop to a man that's clearly angry and just hit a woman.

but I was like what is a specialist going to like yeah these guys are crazy want to come sit and talk no he doesn't yeah no yeah that's where I don't have a solution to that entire thing because I that probably makes sense that that's a dangerous call for for cops yeah somebody's losing their fucking mind just hit a woman and the cops show up yeah he's probably going to go nuts so yeah here's the demaris is right eight and a half percent is it the 43 officers who were killed while responding to domestic violence disturbance or domestic violence calls, account for roughly 8.5% of the total number of officers killed between 2011 and 2020. That's like insane. Out of all the things police people, they can die over. I didn't even,

I didn't even consider that. I guess I never thought about which would be the most dangerous call, but yeah, that's... Is that the most dangerous call? That's what they said. Yeah, one of. But I could see that across the country, yeah, that being, because unfortunately, domestic violence is running rampant in all. all of America. I'm sure in New York City there may be a specific thing or in Chicago.

It varies. It varies. But domestic violence, if you're going through the whole country, I could see that being the most dangerous call, for sure. Yeah, because inherently.

Especially in towns that have no crime, unfortunately, guys are still beating their wives. There's nothing else to do. Yeah, so the only thing that could be dangerous going to. They're bored. Yeah.

Is that goal. Their team lost, Rory. Yeah, built them a fucking aquarium. The bill's lost on a field goal. Yeah, yeah. And I have to shovel.

And Beth is in there fucking burning the bread again. Yeah. You want me to do it. Life's tough. It's too cold outside to plow snow. But I still want to get out my physical aggression. I watched the beginning of that Buffalo Bills Doc on Netflix that's out right now. I did not know that Jim Kelly decided not to go to the NFL for two years because he wanted

to stay in Houston and didn't want to go to Buffalo. When is created he do that? Coming out of college. Instead of being drafted to the bills. He's like, fuck Buffalo and played in some off-brand league. And in the interview, like the first 10 minutes, he's like, everyone's like trying to figure out why I don't want to go to the NFL or play for Buffalo. It's like, would you want to stay in Houston for two years or go to Buffalo?

There's your answer. Next question. And then became a, and then became a bad. No, but to not play in the national football league. That's what you just want to play. They were at his field in Houston. It looked like some Pop Warner field where he was playing. It was like, bro, like,

weather here, like, and the bitches? Yeah, like, I'm chilling. Like, I'm chilling. Nah, but that's his quality of life. I respect it. No, he eventually went to Buffalo. Not only did he eventually go to Buffalo, he's a Buffalo legend now.

That's the funny part about that shit. Yeah, I wasn't even like born yet, but that blew my mind that that was a thing. Yeah. I did not know that one of the most historic quarterbacks in Buffalo Bill's history was like, nah, fuck that. I'm gonna play Pop Warner in Houston.

I'm sure Buffalo was awful back in the day. It's gotten better now. But I'm sure. The Houston is better now. They had O.J. Simpson like two years before that. Like, they weren't a terrible franchise. He was two seasons with the Houston gamblers, who are part of the U.S.FL, the United States Football League.

The gamblers. Took a gamble. All right. No, but you got to understand. He went to Miami University. Like, to go from the Hurricanes, which is a damn near NFL program. Yeah. be like, no, I'll just go.

I'll throw the Nerf ball around because I don't want to go to the NFL in Buffalo. Well, in 83, that's when he got drafted. So you can imagine Buffalo in 83 was not a very enticing destination. Wasn't O.J. Simpson just there? I mean, we're talking about the, I don't think, are you guys talking about the franchise? I'm told with the place. Yeah, Buffalo hasn't changed. It's still the same place.

No, Buffalo's changed. How? Benny. Do you be in Buffalo? Do you be in Buffalo? No. You saying how? Okay.

What has changed? What has changed in Rough Buff since 83? I don't think much more parking garages. No, things have changed. First of all, the snow isn't as bad. Oh, that is that's a thought. The snow is not as bad. No, because everybody knows that it's near the Great Lakes.

He's from Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania is not fucking with Buffalo is. He didn't come from Fort Myers. Not many places are fucking with Buffalo and snow. I'm just letting y'all know. Like, there's a big difference. Okay, but can you imagine? they have more night life and stuff now?

Like, it's built up more. They've built Buffalo up more. But, all right, to come from Pittsburgh to then go to Miami University means your dream is to play in the NFL one day. And when you're about to be like a number one pick, you say nah because of the snow. That's great. And the Houston Gamblers only existed for two years.

It was the two years he played there. He funded the league. The league folded when he left. It was like, fuck. Which they didn't mention that in the dock. But Julian, I think they said in the dock, he played in the USFL for the Houston Gamblers where he was a two-time MVP. And we're like, we figured that. He stepped in and smoked it.

Two-time MVP. It was like when he was in existence. It was like when they kicked Ricky Williams out and he went to the Canadian Football League. You know, Ricky's killing ship, they're like, yeah, we know. We figured he would. He was selected 14th overall in the draft. by the bills. Crazy.

But that doc is wild. Also, I suggest, I think it was lover, stalker, stalker lover or something. I was going to watch that last night. I watched it last night instead of watching the East score 205 points because I got sick of it.

Great fucking doc. So many twists and turns. It makes you scared of like just dating people. I thought, I thought about Julian when I was going to watch it. Wait, what, Doc? Sorry, I'm sorry.

I'm still one more one more thing to close this because I'm just still now I'm looking at his oh no watch the doc it's great looking at his career accolades guys at the bottom first team you know five-time pro ball all the NFL shit but then if you go to the bottom his USFL accolades two-time all-league team two-time uh the most valuable player rookie of the year US of L all-time team yeah he was playing against me yeah he was the fucking man he was the league obviously a shit fold as soon as he left because you got to you have to see the confidence in that interview of him saying like Why would anyone want to go to the league when I could just be in Houston chilling? That's hard.

Good for him. Wait, sorry. What were you saying? What's this dating? It's like lover, stalkers, whatever the name of the shit is. You meet people online, right? It's from more fish in the sea. Seafish.

Get some fish. I don't know what you're talking about. Lover, stalker killer? No. Yeah, that's it. Oh, that is it. Okay. Maybe?

Yes, that's it. Okay. Plenty of fish. Plenty of fish. This is the worst. We're just watched. It doesn't know the name. Like, that's it's like, is it?

That's like when his luggage kept going around on the belt and he was like, that's not my bag. I'm like, dog. Pick up the foster, Julian. Pick up the fucking bag. He's a little embarrassed over there. But if you think about it, like, do we own anything in the Matrix that we're in? No, you own that bag that we watch to go around on that carousel for 15 minutes.

How could I put any ownership to matter? Matter. All right, back. Give me the bag. Yeah. Let's get the fuck out of it. The fuck are you talking about. Pick up the bag and let's fucking go, man.

I'd rather have that bag in Houston instead of Nork. You can keep it in Nork. I'd rather have no bag in Houston. Yeah, Houston, don't need it. This was the worst Plenty of Fish ad of all time. I don't want to do spoiler, but Jesus Christ. Oh, so you didn't like it? No, I loved it.

But Plenty of Fish is the app that he was using. And it goes off the phone. I heard about that app. It was like one of the first, I think. That's like one of the first. Yeah, that's like that in E-Harmony. Oh. all I know is this dude was running through Nebraska.

Like he was, he was the Drake in Nebraska. He was throwing Dick left and right. He was the Jim Kelly of Nebraska. Throwing dick in Nebraska. Sick. I forgot what city he was in originally and they got divorced and followed his kids.

It was like, you know, I'm not not going to take care of my kids. So I was like, fuck it. I moved to Omaha just so I could be close to him. But, you know, naturally I went on a dating app because I was single and 30.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. And this was starting fucking everything. thing. Oh, was he killing them though? No. Quite the opposite. His dick was that good that they was killing over him. No way. He was the illest in Nebraska. He took it away from

Bethlehem. Yeah. These bitches were killing each other over him? Watch the dog. I got to watch this. That's fire. That's fine. You're DeMarris. How toxic is to him? That's fire. What do you're talking about? I mean, if you're him, you got to be feeling good over about yourself. No, you

don't. He probably feel like shit. Throughout the entire, every twist and turn that came, Ke and I were looking at each other like, yo, how ill is this dude? They're doing this over him? Yeah, they was bored in Nebraska. I mean, he was a handsome guy. He worked as a mechanic. I feel like that would be.

I feel like that's most guys. That would be like, but that would be the Drake of Omaha. The mechanic? Like you have a full head of hair. You're handsome. You work as a mechanic. Like him. He had a one bedroom apartment.

Him. Hemathy. And Nebraska. that's him with Turner. His Eric Drake is a 96 Oldsmobile. And even like his first apartment kind of had a modern look that I don't think anyone had seen. Like he was slaying pussy.

He was the first one in Nebraska with blackout curtains. He was the first one in Nebraska. His bed's on the floor. He was the first one in Nebraska going to an H&M and then bring it back. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I got you. He was the first one in Nebraska with a neutral bullet. Yeah. I got to check this out.

Plentyoffish.com. Yeah, I'm going to watch that tonight because I definitely saw it on Netflix and was like, this looks interesting. I'll watch it. Do we have one more? We can play one more. Cool. Yeah.

Let's give someone some actual career advice. How about that? What's going on, New Royal Mall Pye? It is Mike. I am 24 currently living in Delaware, born and raised here, unfortunately.

And my question, maybe not maybe a question, but more so just trying to see what you guys think about my current situation and where I should go from here. To give a bit of backstory, I live with my grandparents.

They're in their late 60s, early 70s. They're traditional older black grandparents. So they prefer to me to have a job to continue staying with them. So I do work full time at a warehouse. And they don't really charge me for rent. They prefer me to stack my money up. They hate when I try to give them more money because they want me to save that money to get my own place.

So they're pretty cool. Now, as far as where I'm at right now, I do content creation. I only have a YouTube channel right now where I review movies and shows. I know that sounds corny to review movies and shows, but I like it. I like going to the theaters. I like watching movies and shows. I like talking about them, giving my thoughts on them and stuff. And just like a month ago, I finally was able to join the YouTube partner program

and able to start making money from it. But I also kind of want to start another YouTube channel where I do like talk about like true crime stuff because I'm also interested in that field as well. I also kind of wanted to start writing like shorter stories and stuff. And the reason why I'm asking you guys is because y'all are people that have seemed to dip in, you know, dabbling in different, you know, entities, not just the podcast and stuff. So I just wondered if it's better for me to just kind of stick with the whole movie and review channel, or should I branch out now just in case those other things might catch a little bit quicker? Well, first of all, congrats for getting into YouTube partner program for getting the views enough to monetize.

That's great. First things first, I wish you would have plugged the channel and set it to her voicemail. So I don't know if you can reach out. Like maybe we could plug it somewhere. But is that an A-O? Okay. I think it's fine to branch out now, but just make sure you have the movie review shit down to a science. So that just becomes like muscle memory and you can just do that quickly if you're going to start branching out to other stuff because that's going to become tedious.

Starting a YouTube channel from zero is very tough. So, yeah, as long as you feel like you have that movie shit under control, And it's at the best possible place as far as content goes. Do that. And then grow the page. I would just sometimes people get ahead of themselves and don't master what they're doing with one thing. And then move on to a bunch of shit and the main thing can suffer. I've been, I've been victim of that before too.

So just make sure you. Is a master of none. True. I mean, that's, yeah, that's really my only advice. Make sure that the movie review shit that's working right now is in its best. best place and then branch out. I feel like. And don't confuse your consumers too.

Like if you're doing movie reviews and then all of a sudden now you're reviewing Tupperware, it's like, all right, this isn't the same audience that I'm trying to bring over to my other page and you could confuse your core fan base if you start doing that stuff too early. So. Well, I mean, he said true crime. My advice, I don't know, Julian might disagree with me. I wouldn't split your views. I would keep it on the same channel and turn it into playlists, especially if,

okay so what I would need to know is is your face in these movie reviews if your face is in these movie reviews I would keep it all on one page if your face is not in these movie reviews I would split it but if you have if you're become people care about people so when they're going they want to you want to be the person that these people come to for these reviews because they like who you are and they like the way that you do reviews so you can cross pollinate your audience for the true crime and for the movie reviews if you stick to one channel so I would do that I also, like I advise all content creators, get on TikTok because it's so easy to get views and virality and followers on TikTok. It's so much more friendlier algorithm friendly.

Excuse me. So I would definitely get on TikTok. You can take some of your clips from your YouTube and throw them on TikTok. It doesn't have to be separate recording. So that would be my advice. To the Maris's point, I'm not mad at, yeah, if you have a channel and I agree with kind of both both of what you're saying. To Rory's point, if you're monetizing on YouTube, don't sink the ship that got you to this point. Keep the monetization growing because that's going to ultimately probably fund your other endeavors. Regarding Demaris's point, I think for the time being, keep it on the same channel and just like what we do, if you look at what with my karma is beautiful or the skits, it's all lives on the same channel. It's just, you know, thumbnails are very important

and we organize it with playlists. And you can kind of, if you want to find it, you know where to go. Utilize the shorts tab as well. Demaris mentioned TikTok and just kind of blast content everywhere that you can on all the properties. Don't isolate a social media platform. But it sounds like you're doing the right thing. Just keep doing it. And if you get to the point where, again, you're comfortable and you're making enough money with the main one, then maybe, you know, slow grow the other ones. But focus on the one that's getting you the bread for now. At one point, it was the same approach you probably have with these other ones. I want to do this.

You did it. You know you're capable of doing it. Just keep doing that. And then, you know, the other ones will fall into place when it's time. But do you guys think that's a risk early on? So, for example, My Karma's Beautiful. We launched that after it was well established within our algorithms with a podcast. So our podcast didn't suffer because maybe My Karma's Beautiful had less views.

Like, we can take those risks because we have an established channel. he just got into the YouTube partnership team, which means he's just starting to get the right amount of views to monetize. If you launch something completely different outside of movie reviews, that could start to fuck with your actual algorithms because the channel's not as established.

I don't have, again, I don't have the answer to that. I'm asking. If the output, well, I think to the point, like if your output of the new movie reviews, the thing that's known for doesn't, if that's not taking a hit based on this new content, if it's just like subsidizing it. Like if the movie review comes every Monday.

Yeah. Maybe on a Thursday, here comes this new piece of content. I think if you do it like that, there's a way in which it makes sense. But I think, yeah, I don't think it's like, okay, well, fuck, now that I'm doing these other two things that I'm passionate about, I'm going to actually do one less movie thing this week. Do not do less of what you've been doing. Either keep that the same or increase the output of that. What you're also just increasing the work because you're going to be doing other things as well.

but just make sure the thing that got you there stays the same if not grows more. And in conclusion, I don't think true crime is far off of movie reviews. That's what I said. Yeah. I think it's a good conversation we're having just in YouTube overall.

But if you're doing movie review channels, true crime can stay on the same channel. And I'm sure he has an affinity for like thriller and horror film. I'm sure that there's a lot of crossover there. Yeah. Good luck. I wish you all the best,

this content creating game, especially when you're just creating from scratch. ideas that are in your brain. As somebody who's trying to do it, it's not easy, and it's tough to be consistent, especially, and that's the key to being successful in this. So all the best to you. So yeah,

please reach out to us so we can check yourself out. Tell us your channel, too, call back. Yeah. Tell us your channel. Yep. Big facts. Tell us your channel. That almost sounded like sexual.

Tell us your channel. See how weird he turned that? I think he's gay, bro. I keep telling you, bro. What's up? Yeah, it's crazy. Yeah, that's wild. I was like, you guys are nuts because, like, I was coming up on the elevator.

And when I got, I saw Rory and his phone, he was looking at the Drake videos. It was nuts. Which Drake video? Yo, so we're going to wrap and, um. You can look at my history. What out of drink videos? Don't even worry about it. The Drake video.

I heard the hum of the jet. Yeah, I don't know. I understand what you're saying. All right. Well, anyway, tickets on sale, March 23rd. We are in D.C. at the Howard Theater. Yes. Tickets on sale now.

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