New Rory & MAL - Episode 250 | International Women’s Day
Episode Date: March 12, 2024This one goes out to all the women. Especially the pioneers like Draya. Yes, Draya and Jalen Green are expecting a daughter. We discuss the origin of Women’s History Month which leads into women on ...women conflict (12:26), LSU vs. South Carolina (16:36). In other basketball news, LeBron was cozied up courtside (21:08). Then Mal corrects Rory about a recent interview which led to a conversation about us going on other people’s podcasts (27:11). Are podcasters celebrities (39:42)? Shaun King is definitely a celebrity…he’s also muslim (conveniently in time for Ramadan) (47:42) Well it’s official…North West is taking the reins from Kanye and releasing an album (54:08). We speculate who she’ll diss (Adonis/Willow Smith) among other things. Then the guys provide an update on Dame’s standing with Rockafella (1:06:24). It’s time for voicemails (1:18:23). Both voicemails today revolve around a heavy conversation, but like always we find humor in them. Tune in as the guys discuss all of this + more!Follow Rory: @ThisIsRoryFollow MAL: @MAL_ByTheWayFollow Demaris: @DemarisAGiscombeFollow Julian: @Julian__nicholas To watch the podcast on YouTube: https://bit.ly/NewRoryAndMALYouTube Don’t forget to follow the podcast for free wherever you're listening or by using this link: https://bit.ly/NewRoryAndMAL Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoicesSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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No.
What?
You tell them.
Classes, your glasses.
Your glasses.
I mean, can you be mad at the young boys?
though. Yeah, we come.
At the young boys?
Nah, you can't. He's an idiot, too.
You're doing what they're supposed to do, right?
That's not what you're supposed to do.
Get some good...
No, go get some good pussy.
Yeah.
But you're not supposed to, like,
not pull out of that.
Okay. I'm with you on that.
That I'm with you on. How old is Jalen Green?
22.
Yeah, 22 years old. You can't just be leaving it in.
See, I don't know.
Listen, I'm on both... Listen, I understand both.
sides of this thing. Because you're pro-life.
Well, yeah. But I'm on both sides of this thing because on one hand, I understand how
people are calling Drea predator and Jalen is too young for her and her son is basically
almost the same age as Jalen, whatever, whatever, whatever. I get all of that, right? A lot of sense
that makes a lot of sense what people are saying on that side. But I'm just, I just always put
myself in, if I was 22 with 50, 40 million, having much money Jailen is making.
I probably grew up looking at Dreia in magazines, videos when I was in high school.
Like, damn, she bad.
Now that I got a chance to get her and I got her and, you know, we're doing what we doing.
We're in Tulum or something.
It's going to be hard for me to back out with the sunset and all of that.
And this is a girl that I had in my locker hanging up on.
Like, it's just how.
There's no way you.
You bring this point up a lot and I appreciate that you do fight for the young guys.
Because you got to understand.
With Zion, you backed him a bit.
Like, yeah, we probably watched that girl do porn.
whole life.
Listen, you got to understand.
Like, go beat.
Listen, I don't, I'm not, I'm with you on that.
I'm with you on that.
You ain't supposed to finish.
You just turned 22, by the way.
Right.
You're not supposed to.
I wouldn't finish inside her.
I'm not saying I would do that.
But, you know, the biggest thing when you're young and you having sex with your girl
or whoever is, damn, if she get pregnant, I'm going to become a dad.
How do I take care of a kid?
Like, those are problems you have when you don't have no financial security.
But if you make it 40, 50, 60, 100 million hours.
You know, money doesn't make it right.
Yeah.
I'm not saying the money makes it right.
It's helpful.
I'm just saying that I can take care of my family.
I'm in a position where I can take care of my family at 22 years old.
Like, my family will be okay.
Now, if you're the average 22-year-old that's just trying to figure out what you want to do in life,
probably in between having a job and not working, that's when it's scary to impregnate a woman.
It's like, oh, my God, like, I could barely take care of myself.
I'm going to take care of another life now.
You know, but when you were a professional athlete, and you're talking about,
22 and you, listen, I, how long were they dating?
Couldn't have been that long. You just turned 22.
I don't even think it's dating, bro. It's just how long were they fucking?
And it's her choice no matter what, her body, her choice, right?
Yes.
I still feel like Jalen Green is allowed to look at her after he gets that news and go, why.
Why what?
Why do you want to have a child with me?
And I think she should have to explain that.
Oh, but how do we know he did?
That's a fair point.
You don't know that he didn't say that?
Demaris, it's not like Dreia is just some broke girl trying to get a come up.
Like, I think she's doing financially okay by her.
And it's not in need of money.
If Jalen Green leaves her, I think Drea is going to be okay.
Well, the thing about Dreya is people are going off of her track record, her dating history, her dating past, saying that she obviously has a type.
She has a type of guy that she goes after.
And the issue that a lot of people have with this one is that it's the age difference, that Jalen Green just turned 22.
who she already has a son that's probably 20, 21.
Her son's older than Jalen Green.
Okay, well, her son, she has a son that's older.
Do you think they're Eskimo brothers with, like, chicks out in L.A.?
Oh, yeah.
Probably.
I'm sure they run in similar circles.
Yeah, if Dre is my mom, I'm probably in certain parties and rooms that, you know.
Imagine Drea being stressed with one of his exes and her son also beat?
It's like, diddy shit.
Or what happens if, if, if,
Drea's son like brings back a chick like that he, you know,
starting to get to know and like.
And then Jalen posed him aside as the stepfather,
the younger stepfather that he is,
and he's like, yo, son, I beat.
First of all, if my mom has a,
has a boyfriend that's 22 and, like, we're the same age.
And now he's about to, like, be the father of, like,
my little brother.
Hook me up with some hose, bro.
You can't call me.
You can't call me, son.
What if he's from New York?
I don't care.
Where you're, you're not calling me, son.
No.
What if he walked and said, look, I'm not trying to be your dad.
I just want to be your friend.
Let's go to highlight room.
Nah.
Man, that's a nasty situation.
What are you doing Wednesday night?
Nasty section.
Let's do some bonding.
Like, what do you think their stepfather, stepson bonding would be like?
When you're the same age in the same city in the same circle, there's only one activity I can think of.
Right.
But see, I'm just...
And it's cheating on your mom.
Listen, man, you know, it...
The situation is very unusual.
Have we ever seen this before?
What do you mean?
Like as far as the woman being this much older and having a son that's...
Yeah, I don't need sex.
It happens the other way all the time.
Yeah, but we don't bat.
We don't bat, not just the age.
Not just the age.
The fact that she has a son that's the same age, if not older, then...
Yeah, this is a while.
Like, have we seen this before?
Not to my knowledge.
Right?
I don't think I've ever seen this.
I'm sure Chera Madonna has done it, but I can't pinpoint it.
I'm just going to, I feel comfortable.
Sharon Madonna has had a baby with someone that was the same age as one of their kids.
I'm just saying dated.
No, I'm, see, you stay with me.
Okay, I'm trying.
Having a kid.
I feel like Cher, I feel like Sharon Madonna have secret babies.
All right, so you want to do something else.
You got the 10-4 hat on already.
I'm talking about that we know.
No.
For sure.
Have we seen some celebrities, you know, celebrities,
have we seen this situation where the woman is having a baby with someone
that is the same age as one of her kids.
I'm sure we have.
We just can't think of it right now.
I'm sure we have.
And I'm not saying Jalen doesn't want to have a baby with Dre.
We don't know them.
They could be a happy couple and super excited.
Yeah, he doesn't.
I'm sure he does.
But at the same time, I feel like maybe I'm owed.
It's your choice.
But give me an explanation on why you want to have a child
with my 22-year-old ass when he was just fucking around.
You're financially stable.
If you want to have another kid, I get it.
But maybe like fine of sperm don't.
Listen, man.
Who said they were just fucking around?
Who said they were just fucking around?
Yeah, I was great to say that.
I've been around a few of these dudes and I see the way they be talking to these girls in private.
They'd be wanting babies.
For sure.
They'd be wanting to impregnate these girls.
Like, I'm not going to just throw that on Dreya.
Like, a lot of these dudes out here, they be like, yo, I want you to have my baby.
You my baby mom.
And it's like, all right, you might be, that might be game at first.
But then if you in there spraying it up too, and you.
you saying all of that.
Yeah, it's a little different.
You can't be surprised when she come and hit you like, yo, I'm pregnant.
It can't turn it to, you know, nah, I ain't ready for this.
You ain't ready.
You just finished telling this girl in a hundred text messages you want to have your baby.
Look at me in my eyes while my feet were in the air.
Yeah, my ankles on your earlobes.
And you told my, yo, I'm not pulling out.
Have my baby.
I love you.
You don't want for me.
But your legs were in the air.
Yeah.
Even if that is the case.
Does it count?
Yes.
It counts.
That counts.
Even if that is a case with Jalen,
should she,
like,
when should she tap out?
As far as what?
Like,
of this game,
of the game,
of this current thing
that she's doing.
Don't kill me
or crucify me
because I just don't,
is her past that crazy?
Or do we just,
do we just know the people she's dating?
Julian didn't know who,
know who Drea was
until we told him
who she was two months ago.
I'm happy that I haven't been paying attention.
Yeah,
I don't give a fuck who Drea is.
I feel like I know,
like,
I know, like,
a few athletes she dated,
but I didn't know her
to just,
But my point still stands.
Like, you shouldn't, at some point, people age out of bad habits.
No, or not even like age out per se, but like some, when you, when you're looking,
when you're getting your fucking shit stretched by a kid that's your son's age,
maybe you should reconsider what you're doing.
Just maybe.
Just the situation for the baby.
Yeah.
Just yeah.
And look, look, let's put the finances aside.
Amazing.
Everyone's got money.
Just aesthetically.
Yeah.
Just let's look at it's optically.
Yeah.
Who's raising this kid?
Is this kid really going to be?
put it in the healthiest environment
Jalen's a 22 year old athlete
superstar he's probably going to go
about living his life. Sure the kid
will be financially secure but we
know money doesn't bring
obviously look at the entertainment industry
all these kids are rich as shit they're the most fucked up
kids we know so let's stop pretending like
money is to save all for bad
decisions on parenting. Isn't it better that
Dre is a little older now and maybe
she just wants to be a stay at home mom
and she's got her son
who's of age that's a great male nanny
like maybe it's a stable
like it's not a 22 year old
Drey telling the son that isn't her
telling him to raise him he's the nanny of his
sibling he's the manny of his sibling
yeah why not
it's not like she a 22 year old
Drea maybe more of a problem than a 40 year
old Drea her son's a young adult
probably living his life he doesn't want to raise
if I'm Dreia I think it's crazy I just did a 20 year
bid I want to go back outside
I don't want another fucking kid
she already has another son she has two sons
She has two kids.
Then I'm definitely...
Her other son's like 10, I want to say.
Oh, all right.
10 or 9.
Yeah.
She's doing another bid.
Why not just throw another one there?
Yeah.
Well...
She says she wanted another...
Listen, I'm...
Me personally, I'm not...
At 39...
I'm 29 and I'm not dating a fucking 22-year-old.
But I also am not privy to basketball players
who are making tens of millions of dollars.
If she wanted another kid, she wanted another kid.
I can't exactly cheer for...
you get in a, having a baby with a 22 year old.
But if he's fine with it, his mother fine with it, then y'all do your thing.
Either way, she'd have been raising the baby alone anyway because he's a fucking professional
basketball player.
He's never going to be home.
If he was 10, 15 years older, he was never going to be home.
That's not true.
Yeah, it depends.
There's some athletes that are very great dads.
I can't let you just.
No, I didn't say he was going to be a shitty dad.
That's not what I said.
I said he's rarely going to be home.
That means Dre can fly on the actual plane now, right?
That should be fun.
it depends certain teams they are cool with that like they all cool with letting like wives and baby mothers and the kids fly get me on that plane but who else is on the rockets right now yeah I saw it was international women's day dread dropped that picture great representation and left the comments on I said she turned him she turned him off because she didn't tag him she just posted that she's having a baby here come Kyle Cuswell
tagging a nigga.
Now, why are you doing that?
That's crazy.
I didn't know that.
But why would she tag him?
That's hilarious.
In the picture,
but she's going to tag her belly?
I mean,
well, yeah, it's her baby.
Like the lower third maybe?
Yeah, but she didn't tag.
She didn't tag him.
Yeah, but he ain't in a picture.
There's going to Kyle tagging niggas.
Wait, all right.
I thought y'all were gassing.
She started this post with happy International Women's Day.
Yeah.
She's having a girl.
She's having a girl.
You don't even do the math, Roy.
I really thought you guys were just like joking around.
She happened to post it on the same.
on the same day, so let's make fun of it.
No, no, no.
She started her pregnancy reveal
with happy International Women's Day.
You thought your roll out was fire.
Listen.
I mean, there are very few things that are more powerful
than a woman giving birth
in having a child for a woman.
And having a woman, yeah.
You know what I'm saying?
That's like, you know, that's every woman's,
you know, anybody, any woman that's a mother
will tell you that that was like the start of their new life.
And no, I think it's great that even when we celebrate
international women's day, it still involves a man.
still requires a man.
Yeah, you can't mash two dildos.
Real funny how I wrote in the group chat,
Happy International Women's Day to Mia Yomi
and the entire group chat ignored us.
That's because we were nervous
for how progressive you guys
pretend to be in there
and we didn't know who was a woman and who wasn't.
Yeah, and I texted my mom.
That was good enough.
When did this start?
Women's Day.
It started out as Women's Day
and in women's fashion,
they made a day a month like they do their birthdays.
So it was International Women's Day.
I think the whole month of March
though is International Women's Month.
know, Women's History Month, which is something completely different than happy
International Women's Day.
Women's History Month.
Yes, kind of like Black History Month, how we celebrate the history of black people.
This is when we celebrate the history of women and the accomplishments that they've achieved.
How long is that last a day?
He said, I didn't.
I laughed.
I don't even know.
I was thinking it, but he said it.
I thank you for just taking the rain.
Do you think they turned the clock back because they ran out of accomplishments?
No, it was, it was on daylight savings, though.
Give them 23 hours.
Oh, man.
Don't shut up.
Let's knock an hour off that.
So is this another arrogant American thing where we decide what international women's day is or did the UN get together?
How do we decide that today was the day for the world?
Well, it looks like the origins of the day, which was just National Women's Day, was held on February 20, 1909 in New York.
Okay.
Really?
it looks like that's the dawn of us.
I don't remember him about Women's Day until probably
like maybe 10 years ago.
Well, they couldn't vote at that time.
It really wasn't it, yeah.
I was going to say, I think the popularity came
like obviously in more recent years.
Well, it took them that long to get together
and work with each other. That's why we just found out.
I don't know about it. I don't know if it probably
exists as well. Is there a men's day?
You know, we should look into that.
We should start one.
That was very, uh, I know about black.
Black History Month. What about White History Month of you?
Was it? Or is it just a... I'm asking...
I think we celebrate men's accomplishments pretty often.
No, but is it like a day that's called International Men's Day?
No. I mean, I'm being serious. Like, I don't... I don't know.
But we don't really get holidays, so...
Okay. It is interesting that you guys threw in a holiday when you guys get all the holidays.
Who women?
Yeah.
Oh.
I don't even get my own birthday.
No.
Now I have to celebrate...
It's not even the right day.
I thought you guys were good at calendars.
As a man, you don't get to celebrate your birthday.
You know that.
Did this go off the rails?
I'm sorry.
No, I think you guys are spitting.
I think.
I feel like.
It's great that a man said,
no, no, no, no, no.
You guys are smoking this.
You guys are really representing the women on the pod.
I feel like you want to care right now.
Well, I, yeah, I ain't going to lie, man.
Jalen, I ain't going to lie, man.
That thing probably good, man.
I ain't going to lie, man.
It's hard to back out.
Y'all can't kill Jaila too much on that, man.
I understand.
I get it.
Sometimes you just be like,
yo, listen, man.
See, that's what we need to do.
We need to hear from Jalen.
Because I'm going to tell in the first two minutes
that the first interview he do.
You're tired of men being silenced.
No, I'm going to just be able to tell.
Like, just looking at him when he talked,
like, he's going to be like, man,
y'all don't even know, which I want me to do.
Like, I couldn't.
I couldn't get out.
I understand, man.
I get it.
Well, in the
In staying on theme with women
In International Women's Day
Women were spent the weekend
tearing each other apart in the basketball court
If you guys saw the LSU
South Carolina game
That got really chippy at the end there
I respect it
I loved it
I like it
I think it's good for sports
To get a little chippy like that
Especially in the tournament
I thought it was good for International Women's Day too
Yeah international women's day too
it's competitive, it's just competition, you know, things happen, tempest flare.
The only problem I had was home girl's brother jumping over the scores table,
acting like he was about to hit a girl.
Like, what was you about to do?
Yeah, but like, like, what was you about to do?
You ain't going to do nothing.
And some of them girls would beat the shit out.
I was going to say that a lot of the plays.
Like those are professional athletes.
Some of them girls are six, four, six, five.
Shorty that had the initial, like, real push.
I can see by her reach.
I would lose that fight.
Yeah, like that was the only issue.
I had. She's six, eight.
Yeah, it's like, bro, I get it. Your sister.
Look at the way she set her feet too right after.
Yeah, she was ready.
Yeah, like, I get it. I understand it.
But, like, come on. You see, you're jumping over the table.
Like, your sister, she got this.
And I'm on the side of, like, if I see my girl getting jump or a family member being
jumped by a lot of women, I'm going to get in there and move some bodies.
I mean, if you outside.
But on, yeah, on the court, like, just let the rest handle it.
And during the women's tournament, like, what am I?
What am I going to do if I jump over this table and a girl like squares up with me?
I'm going to square with her and be ready to fight.
Like, come on, man.
I'm really looking forward to the women's college tournament.
The team, there's a lot of teams that can take it this year.
It was better than the men's last year.
Way better.
And the average ticket price for the women's this year is already going for, like, $450, $500.
Oh, that's great.
Yeah.
I love, see, DeMaris?
With support.
I mean, we're not going to go to the game.
I make a mat again.
I sent this to you guys.
I tagged you guys in the post over the week.
weekend.
Caitlin Clark breaking the three point record for the NCAA.
She hit the most three's in NCAA history.
Happy International Women's Day.
What do you want me to say about that?
No,
I refute it.
Nice try.
There's nothing to refute.
Is this something about the line you want to say or the ball or?
No, it's just, you know.
No?
Because you know the men and women have the same line in college.
It's the same three point line.
Okay.
Cool.
I just hit more than anybody.
Not going to bait us this time.
Yeah.
Like, I just, it's not, it's not going to, it's not, it doesn't, it doesn't word
same if now a guy comes along and breaks that record.
If he breaks the record, then he'll be called the greatest three-point shooter in NCAA history.
I just, the reason why I think this record will stand for Caitlin, though, is because most guys
don't play, if you're this good or whatever, you'll, you'll leave and go to the league.
Caitlin played longer in college.
Right.
I know this is like, obviously more of a longevity award, but it's still a great stat to have.
No, I mean, Caitlin Clark is, I mean, what she's done for women's college basketball, women's
basketball period. I think it's dope.
Like, she's brought a spotlight on it.
She's one of the best players I've seen in college.
I just hope it translates to the next level, though.
I think she'll be all right.
I think so, too.
I just hope it translates.
But she's fun to watch, though.
She's fun to watch.
I think she's part of the reason why it's going to translate.
Women's basketball has talked about as much as it is.
She's just like that, that you say Caitlin Clark is playing.
People are going to watch that game.
the best thing you can do in the WMBA is know how to shoot she'll be fine yeah no i mean but it's just
a different level of competition yeah for sure at the defense is i get it yeah demara so there's
some women you wanted to highlight during international women's month um you know we don't want to
silence you know maybe some men you want to shit on because this is y'all time get your shit off
we can't refute nothing women say this month shout out to me and yomi shout out to me and yomi
Yomi, not even here.
Shout out to me and Yomi.
I would answer my question, Damaris.
It was promoted by the United Nations,
but it is technically a Russian and communist thing.
It's started by a socialist party, yeah.
I'll just leave that there.
But, you know.
Happy International Women's Month.
It's just odd.
Shout out to all the women out there.
Hopefully this month is kind to you.
You have a soft month.
But April, get right back to it, get back in the trenches.
I mean, I like to see that Braun was the one that really went above and beyond to celebrate international.
Well, I saw LeBron.
I saw people killing LeBron.
He was talking to Jeannie Bus and Linda Rambus, which is, I believe, Kurt Rambis's wife, right?
Correct?
And everybody was like, oh, Savannah going to have words for him when he get home.
I'm like, all he doing is celebrating women's, ma'am.
But is that some haters shit and some women's shit?
If I'm celebrating other women for international women's month,
you can't say anything to me, right?
It depends.
Your wife can say anything at any time.
I thought, when you married...
I thought we were here to celebrate all women.
Yeah, nah.
It's only one woman you're supposed to celebrate when you marry.
This interaction is like the little...
It's way too touchy.
There's a lot of touching going on.
Yeah, and not from LeBron.
He's doing nothing wrong.
That's the king.
Yeah, anytime you take your hand like this, you're terrified of your wife.
The double bicep grab.
And then obviously, Gene.
laying her whole head on his shoulder.
You know, they love it.
See, it's that black gold.
You know, they can't help but touch that black gold when they see it.
That's all it is.
I'm sure Jeannie Bus has a very close relationship with both LeBron and his wife being who she is.
So I'm sure they like have dinners together with their families.
Like I'm sure that's nothing.
I mean, we, we know that, Demaris.
We was just having fun.
But look how women could just get a man of a faithful man just jam.
damned up like that.
Just the king mind of his damn business in between.
He was probably sitting by himself.
True.
They probably sat right down during a timeout and then just tried to ruin this man's
family.
It's a coup.
Well, one of them owns the team.
She could sit wherever she wants.
And the other one is Kurt Rambe's wife.
I think he's in the front office for the Lakers as well.
I think Kurt Ramos has a front office job with the Lagas.
Okay.
So to me, that's them abusing their power in the workplace.
That's putting a lot of pressure on the Ron.
They are the powerful execs.
in that building,
LeBron is a high-paid employee
that they're taking advantage of
with their power.
That's an HR violation.
That's an abusive power.
You're putting him in a situation
where he feels like he has to
let you touch him
for fear of his job.
He doesn't even like basketball like that.
This is an abuse of power.
He don't even want to be there.
He doesn't want to make...
He has sunglasses on inside.
That is a man that...
That is uncomfortable.
That's a man that don't want to be seen.
What were they even watching?
the game.
The game.
What would they watch?
What you thought they was at?
Wait,
Braun watches Lakers games with with sunglasses on?
Yeah.
Yeah.
I thought like maybe Brony was playing at the Staples Center.
No.
Well, then this was, of course,
this shot went viral after when they pulled up to watch Brony at USC.
And obviously you capture a moment and that, you know,
freeze in time.
People are saying this is, you know, Savannah pissed at Braun after that interaction.
Got an attitude?
Yeah.
Nah, man. It's all a joke.
Dude.
After one frame is captured,
this means that they hate each other now.
Somebody put a bronze face
over Jesus Shuttlesworth face
when you had the threesome
with the white girls.
And he got gay.
People, he would just be doing anything, man.
Do you bring that up to your wife?
Or do you, like, just see what she says?
No, that obviously it was about to link up.
That video, he opened his phone in the car
and was like, oh, fuck, all right.
It was innocent.
Do you say anything?
like, ha ha, did you see the timeline going crazy?
No, you can't.
If you do that at the person at the LeBron statue, you'll be doing that every.
I was going to say, that is a good question.
Because at this point is career, how much of this stuff do they actually address as a couple, do you think?
They laugh at a lot of this shit.
This one, LeBron is the, LeBron, that's one thing, that's one reason why LeBron is, you know, who he is.
He's been able to stay out of the way of fucking scandal and a lot of that bullshit.
And he's been under microscope since he was in fucking high school.
So to be able to avoid that, you know, your entire career, your entire life, that speaks
to the type of person that, you know, LeBron is.
Because he hasn't had any major scandal attached to his name.
Definitely not with other women and shit like that.
That broke major.
It was not local cities that's been chatting about LeBron's nightlife antics and shit.
I'm not talking about that.
I'm talking about shit that was like.
on the front page of the newspaper.
He hasn't had none of that.
Go back to that photo, Julian.
I'm surprised since he was trending.
Fox News didn't get a hold of this photo
with his son with a purse.
You know, they hang out with the wades.
See, that could cause some controversy
when LeBron is trending.
First of all, that's...
You think that's his son?
Oh, I don't know.
Edit this out.
That looks like a son.
Look at it out.
No, we ain't edited now.
Leave that right there.
That's his daughter.
That's his son.
Both of his sons in high school.
That's Zuri.
Back to Fox News.
Why are we masculizing women?
See, look.
He thought he said,
Yo, Rory thought he got something off right there.
No, I didn't.
That's a girl.
Oh, great.
I don't know their family tree.
You know when LeBron's daughter's name is crazy to me.
It's LeBron James.
I know Bronny Jr.
And that's only because he plays basketball.
I don't know the second one's name.
No, that, yeah, that's his daughter.
That's his daughter.
Oh, great that they have a daughter.
Yeah.
Love the fit.
We're in Bronny's jersey?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Fuck it hat.
It was great.
Purse.
That looks like an efficient purse.
Roy can hold a lot of toys.
You got some fox shit off just down.
Oh, what an idiot.
Oh, man.
I got called a red hat Rory this weekend.
Red hat?
Why?
Why?
I was talking to some listeners and we were talking about immigration in New York City currently.
And, you know, that can be a trigger word for some people.
And I was like, why the fuck they're clearing out these schools for this?
I was like, oh, yeah.
I could tell by the tone of my.
voice that that sounded pretty Republican.
And I got called Red Hat, Roy.
Would you do this in Discord?
This is Twitter Spaces.
Last night.
You did an interview and, Danny from the stop.
Shout out to Danny from the stop.
You said something.
I was like, somebody said it to me.
I was like, what the fuck is Rory talking about?
What?
It was something along the line.
I think you got mixed up in your words because you said that I had,
we had reached out to be on a million dollars worth of game.
Okay.
And didn't get a response.
I never texted a nigga and didn't get a response.
about being. First of all, I never text nobody asking to be on their show. I just want to clear that part up.
Gotcha. But I did text Wallow when we were in Philly for the Roots picnic just because we were in Philly.
So it was more so like, yo, what's up? I'm in town. Gotcha. And he never responded. I just wanted to clear that I have never.
Did Wallow hit you? No, no, no. Somebody, one of my people's that sent it to me like, yo, like, I didn't know you had reached out to be on the show. I was like, first of all. So to be clear, I never ever text anybody to be on their show and they didn't respond to me.
I did mix it up because I happened.
At the time, like, when we were about to do, like, the press run shit with the serious deal,
they were on the list.
And I don't know why I thought you had reached out to them.
And, yeah, I guess I confused the film.
Oh, yeah, no.
Oh, okay.
Well.
Yeah, I just wanted to clear that up because that, that just came across crazy.
Like, niggas be leaving me on red.
And I'd be trying to do interviews and they'd be like, nah, like, nah.
Oh, I didn't.
If it came across that way, I apologize.
No, it definitely came across that way.
Like, you've never been left on red before by somebody?
Asking them to be on their show?
Okay.
It's never happened.
I've been left on Reddbara.
First of all, I've never hit nobody
to be on their show.
Okay.
I've never done that.
I have.
What's wrong we're reaching out to people
to be like, yo,
you're trying to come on?
We got some shit going on.
Nah.
I'm not,
I'm not reaching out to nobody.
These niggas is my peers, first of all.
Yeah, that's what friends do.
Peers?
Peers and friends are different.
I'm saying, like, if you're in this space,
you know, have a show or a platform,
you go on each other's thing.
It's like a thing.
You know,
you can go on, but usually you're invited on.
I'm not picking up my phone saying,
yo, what's up, man?
Want to come on your show and do?
I'm not doing that.
For what?
If we're doing a press run and have already had conversations in the past,
they were like, yo, we should do something together in passing.
I'd be like, yo, we got something to promote what's your schedule looking like.
I mean, I don't know.
I don't know what I've never done that.
I've never done that.
I think you're putting too much sauce on the, I'm asking you to come on the show.
since they are our peers and we have had conversations with everyone I named in that Danny from the Stop interview already about working together, I have no issue being like, yo, this makes sense to do the interview now.
What's your schedule like?
I don't know issue with that.
No.
Any interview I've ever done on the show is because I was invited.
All right.
I'm not reaching out to nobody to sit on their show and do an interview.
What about people reaching out to us?
Why do you take that so negatively?
Because I'm just not, I'm not interested enough in doing an interview with nobody.
reach out to them to do an interview.
Let's not even say an interview,
say just going on someone's podcast.
That's more what I'm saying.
Not like a sit down one-on-one.
I'm not after I'm going on nobody's podcast enough to reach out to them and tell them,
yo, what's up?
I want to come on your podcast.
Nah,
it's a couple shows that cats have reached out to me and I'm probably going to do them
just because I like their angle of what they're doing with their shows.
But I'm not hitting nobody to be like, yo, what's up?
Like, do you listen to podcasts?
No.
I figured.
then you probably see that it's not really interview per se
Yeah
Like I think million dollars worth of game
Interviews young thug
But with us that would just be a pod episode
Yeah
Same way when we did
But I still wouldn't reach out
Adam and AD
Like that was a pod
They didn't really interview us per se
It was a combo
You and I have very similar pride
It's just channeled different
No but even that
They reached out to us though
Yeah
No it's just fine
Anytime I saw 80 and highlight room,
I was always loved.
It was always like, yo,
but I never hit them to do their show.
Like, just because I'm just not,
first I'm not a celebrity.
Why am I just going on other platforms
to just talk?
Like, I'm not.
Yeah, but you're in, okay,
you're not a celebrity,
but your voice is respected
in the podcast sphere.
Okay, true.
In this fear, you're a celebrity.
True, but I'm not hitting somebody
like, yo, what's up?
I want to come on your show.
Like, now, if you hit me
and I fuck with you and what you doing,
then that's different.
You know what I mean?
Then I'm like, okay, cool.
Like, I like this dude.
I like this, this, this, this,
like, I guess, I mean, I know I'm speaking for myself.
Like, I've had moments where I've listened to someone on a podcast or like,
listen to a podcast and said to myself, wow, that would be great if, like,
they came on our show or you guys did their show kind of.
Like, I feel like I have that moment all the time.
This was similar to what we're talking about with Ian, with just egos.
Like, we could all do crossover episodes if everyone didn't feel like it would be weird
if I reached out to come on y'all.
Shit.
My pride is very sensitive.
this regard, that doesn't bother my pride at all. If I see somebody that I feel is a peer as well,
then it's definitely not going to part my pride. We're a peer, let's do something together.
Like, why the fuck me? It's not a pride thing, though. I just, I'm just not reaching out to somebody
to be on their show. Like, it's nothing to do with pride. I'm just like, yeah, but if you like
the person and respect what their, their platform and their show, wouldn't you want to be like,
oh, I want to be a part of that? Like, I want to contribute to something I like this person. I like
what they're doing. I want to be a part of that show. See, I operate.
more for like if it's if it's supposed to happen it's going to happen like me and this person are
going to connect somebody because it's happened like I've never I have the people that I have sat on
their platforms I didn't reach out to them we actually met yeah had like real conversation got a vibe
of each other and then it just organically happened like yo come on the show like let's kick it okay
cool but like reaching out to somebody via DM that you've never met like I'm just not doing
that because I don't first of all you could have a great show but if I
I don't know if we never really met.
I don't even know when I'm walking into with you.
I don't even know the type of person.
Oh, I mean, that's a bit of a stretch.
I see what you're saying there.
But like a Gillian Wallow, we have, I wouldn't say a friendship, but an association ship with them.
We're all cool.
I don't think that's weird to ask in that regard.
Bootleg Kevin and I are not best friends.
But I think we're peers and I can just text him and be like, yo, can I come on your show?
I have shit that I want to promote and we can have a combo.
It's an even exchange.
He can ask me questions.
that I haven't done in interviews and I can promote them.
She was promoting an album.
So I say that to say, in other portions, yeah, we can promote the podcast.
That's why people do cross-pollination and podcasts is to grow your audience off each other's audiences,
especially because the episode is probably going to get a lot of views, get more eyes than you usually have,
and everybody's trying to grow because growth leads to more money.
So that's why people do the cross-pollination.
And not just like they just want to go hang with other podcasters.
Yeah, but if you want that, then you got to hit me.
I'm not reaching out on the white for that.
Does that work in other aspects of your life as well?
Like if you're managing somebody, would you reach out for your artist?
Do you feel more comfortable doing that?
Is it just a you thing?
Oh, for my artist?
Yeah, that's different.
For somebody, like for me, like me having a podcast,
I'm not reaching out to somebody that has a podcast that I never met before
just because they have a platform.
But take away they never met.
Yeah, yeah, no, I'm talking like Nory, Gilly,
like everyone that I named in the Danny and Stop interview,
that's where I have in my mind.
It's the world.
If you're saying people that you know,
have no, like no, no, I'm not going to code DM someone and hope they check their requests.
Okay.
But I have no issue, even though Norie has invited us plenty of times, I would have no issue
texting Nori like, yo, I think it makes sense timing wise for what we have going on.
Can we come on drink champs?
Hmm.
Because to me, timing is everything with what you're trying to get out of the interview outside
of good conversation.
Mm-hmm.
It makes sense for us now.
Let's go do it.
I don't mind hitting them.
That's, I don't think it's a weird thing.
okay that's just what we differ
but I'm not doing it
fuck that
I'm not reaching out to nobody
I don't fuck with I
You reach out to women in their comments
every day
No I don't
We're taking out
What have you just sent money bags to Wallow
That would be the reach out
That's something else
That's sick
I thought it was universal
I meant everything
Cars
Cars
Cars Wallow and women
No I think you're
You keep saying
I'm not doing that
to someone I don't fuck with.
But we're saying it's someone that you know or at least have somewhat of a working
relationship with.
You still.
Oh,
that's different because we probably already had that conversation personally.
Like, yo,
we got to.
But then when that timing's right for you,
would you be like,
hey,
like got this coming out.
Cool if I find availability to come on your show in a week or two?
But that's different because we already have that relationship.
See,
I thought,
I thought Roy was more so just the conversation,
that conversation leaning towards,
why don't we do other,
platforms, a podcast
in general, even if we don't have a
relationship or know the person.
And I'm just like, that's just weird.
Like, to go sit down with somebody
and y'all have, this is our first time,
like...
Yeah, I think that's a different level of comfort.
Like, I'm cool with the cold message.
Like, I don't know you personally,
but we're obviously doing similar work.
There's some synergy here.
But I guess to your point, like, yeah,
it's obviously easier if it's like someone
you have a history with or no.
Yeah, that's all I'm saying.
I just like to have some type of rapport
or some type of relationship with a person before it turns into like business.
You know what the type of person is this person?
Who is this person?
Okay.
Because then you end up sitting down with somebody having an interview and then two months later
you find out this person is a piece of shit and now you plaster it all over their platform.
It's like, but you didn't even know this person but because you wanted to just go sit on
the platform and do an episode, you jumped out there.
But it's like, yeah, this person's a fucking cocksucker.
This is a piece of shit.
now you got to, now you're on their platform.
You see what I'm saying?
Like that's what I'd be trying to stay away from.
It's like, all right, but who is this person?
Like, who is, or who is this woman?
Like, I don't know who this guy is.
Me mistaking the story, which I apologize with the Gillian Wallow thing,
mixing up those, those time frames.
Would you reach out to Gillian Wallow today for us to do an episode with them?
On their platform?
It depends.
What would be the factors?
What are we talking about?
What are we discussing?
I think even more to what you were saying prior, it makes sense.
We're not doing a press run.
We don't have anything really specific.
So just kick it.
To kick it and have a great episode.
I think the four of us, we've all kicked it separately and together.
We have great conversation.
Yeah, I wouldn't be mad at that.
But I mean, but I just don't.
And then what?
Then it's an episode.
Then we drive to Philly.
and do an episode.
Yeah, but I'm talking
after that.
Maybe we get a cheese steak, I don't know.
No, I mean, like us doing the episode
does what?
More, man.
We have a great moment
and a great conversation
with our peers.
I don't think everyone
that listens to a million dollars
worth of game listens to us
and vice versa.
Okay.
It's two people we know
we would have a good,
solid conversation
that could contribute
to this podcast space.
Why not?
Especially with podcast.
podcasting where it is right now, back to the Ian conversation.
Those like classic episode shit,
that shit is starting to die.
And I'm not saying that we would absolutely have one with them.
But these type of moments are starting to disappear in podcasting
because everyone's fucking talked to each other.
That's why I'm kind of happy we were patient with who we want to talk to.
I think we still need to have our pause,
our math moment.
I think we do need to have our million dollars worth of game.
I think we do need to do our Dream Champ shit.
Shit is drying up with people talking to people.
We haven't had that.
So I was, I texted Norway Day.
Asked him for babysitter recommendations in Miami.
Would happily follow up with that text and say,
can we put a solid date from all and out of flight in Miami to do Dream Champs?
Hmm.
Okay.
Philly's an hour away.
And I'm sure with the money that they've made, they still both live in North Philly.
I doubt that, but yeah.
Yeah, I don't know.
Just that, just that, that, that conversation was just like, I had to,
clear that up because I don't even want that to be out there.
I'd be hitting niggas to be on their show and they be leaving me on red.
Like, nah, never happened.
Do you feel the same with artists?
As far as what?
Reaching out and asking them to come on the pod?
It's different with artists though because they, most of the times,
you either promoting some shit or, you know, it's just different with an artist as opposed
to being a host of a podcast.
I think it's the same now.
No, hell no.
All right.
Back to me doing the day.
from the stop interview.
The climate has changed,
and I'm not saying
podcasters were artists now,
but there's fan bases
dedicated to just commenting
on our podcasting.
There's podcasts about podcasts,
about podcasts, about podcasts,
they're sampling the samples
that was sampled from the samplers, yeah.
So podcasting to me,
yeah, it's like asking for a verse swap.
Like, we are artists in our own right
as far as this genre.
So reaching out to somebody
would be like reaching out
for a feature or reaching out to
collab on a song. It's the same concept
in my opinion now. We have become
the artist to a large
group of people. I don't know.
We have. He's not wrong.
I don't think we've become the artist.
I'm not saying, I get what you saying, but I have a live show
D.C. March 23rd. D.C. March 23rd
with Theater of New Rory Mall.com. Tickets
available now. Live show. I'm not saying
that, um, I'm just not, we're not the artist. I get what you
saying, but I'm just not comfortable with saying we are the
artist. Like, I'm not, I don't, nah. Why? Just because I just think it's totally different. Like,
I just think it's, it's totally different. Can I ask the differences? I don't think we are the same
as if Chris Brown has an album out. He's going on the press run. I don't think that podcasters are in
that same, like, on that same tier. No, I don't. Oh, no, I'm not saying in the press run sense.
I'm saying when Chris Brown reaches out to Tide Dala and is like, let's work on a record together.
And then you-
You think that's the same as us reaching out to Gillian Wallet?
Yes.
Fuck no.
I think it's the exact same thing.
At this point, especially how the fan bases have changed and how they obsess over podcasting as podcast fans.
They're not here just to listen to us talk about Chris Brown.
We are Chris Brown to them.
Well, I'm more Cuebo.
But yes, we are that.
to a very large fan base.
They're more interested in us than who we're talking about a lot of the time.
It's not a huge fan base, but it's a fan base.
So to me, it's a verse swap.
If we go to a million dollars worth a game and it's like, let's do a joint album.
And it's less red tape in podcasting because you don't have to go through legal,
clear things and bring in the boardrooms.
Your whole transaction can be done via text.
Hey, we're in Philly.
Boom.
Come do the show.
Especially with pods like us because we're not guest-based.
So it's even more of that with us.
Yeah, but I think what you said is somewhat the problem in podcasting right now, though.
How so?
Because I think a lot of these podcasts think they're celebrities now.
Oh, I mean, that goes without saying.
And I think that's the problem.
It can be a problem because fame and attention is the worst drug on Earth.
But they do have some right to feel that as far as attention and finances.
they can go dollar for dollar with a lot of shit a lot of celebrities
we can go dollar for dollar with a lot of celebrity yeah but I just it's just
different man it's different like I didn't look at you saying it's different because
of the skill that like the the nature of what's being done like we're not singing
or that's a big part of it okay so is it is it the skill or the that's a big part of it
what so that's that the highest thing or what else and it's just a lot of these artists
if they announce a show, they're doing crazy fucking arenas.
Like, most podcasts are not doing arenas.
But a lot of times, podcasters, like the top-tier podcasters, most of the time are discussing artists that they are more famous than in this current climate.
Some?
Yeah, not all.
But I'm saying peers of the group I'm talking about that we would quote unquote collab with,
Yeah, there's been plenty of times that they are bigger than the artists they're discussing at this point.
And I know.
How podcasting started was the opposite.
It was a bunch of smart people talking about a genre they loved and then they got popular.
I think it's corny and weird to your point that they're walking around like they are these crazy celebs and this and that.
But that comes with money and fame for a lot of insecure people.
I'm not going to put that on a podcast.
Just because I sit down in an interview Chris Brown or one of these like superstars or Drake or whoever.
that doesn't mean that I'm on the same level as them.
No, I don't think you want to say that.
But a lot of podcasts just feel like that.
Because the fan base now care more about the podcaster than they do the artist they're
talking to or talking about.
That's what I'm saying.
That's why people feel that way.
And that's why I was referencing music the way I was when it came to collabing with other pods.
This fan base, the core pod fan base, looks at the podcaster as the celebrity.
Do they enjoy a nice guest or an artist they like?
sure is it going to get more views because that art is going to bring their fan
but that podcast fan that returning fan is there for them they're not there for the artist
so agree yeah you're there for the show you're you're you subscribe to the show or the podcast
i understand that i'm saying artist just that statement of the podcasters are now like the artist
no i can't i can't i can't i can't i'm not jacking that hell no to i'm i want to be clear to a
specific fan base and i think it's a large fan base in no way am i
going to be that guy that is saying
how a lot of these guys that are feeling
themselves, that they think they are bigger than music
or bigger than the
A-list music people.
But to a core fan base,
yeah, they look at them as the art.
That's their guy.
Okay. Yeah.
So.
Yeah, I just wanted to clear that up.
I didn't listen to...
I have Gillian Wallow's number. Should you put us all
on a group chat? Let's do it on air.
I'm fucking with you.
I'm about to say, that's weird.
I didn't listen to the whole interview.
I just saw that clip and I listened to that clip.
It was a fun interview and again, I think it's important because they represent a large fan base of podcasting where it's evolving to.
So I think it's important to talk to those guys.
So now the fan base is now the podcasters.
But is that not?
But is that not who we were?
because I can't shit on them
because how I started podcasting
I was a fan of music talking about music
I'm still a fan of me
I didn't go to broadcasting school
no no no I'm still a fan of me
but it's just like now
the fans of the podcast
are now interviewing
they have shows
and they're interviewing the podcasters
so then
what's next after that
I think
China just drops a nuke
hmm
I think that's really
That's about it right
That's the only thing
That's next after that
Oppenheimer 2
I think we put on our
Apple goggles
And then just a nuke comes
Sean King has reverted
to Islam
How true is this
No this is it
It's true
This is Rory's
This is your topic right here
Rory sent me this
I started laughing so hard
That's Allah
Why is Sean King
Converting
I'm not mad at anyone
that wants to convert
some of my best friends
are of this religion
I respect it hold heartedly
I respect their teachings
follow some of their teachings
Yep
oldest religion
I think probably the religion
that makes the most sense
I'm sorry if that's offensive to anyone
but why is Sean King now
after failing on his ceasefire
that he promised two months ago
now converting
and what was he before
and how long
has he been doing his lessons?
I don't have those answers for you, my brother,
but I just thought it was funny reading that Sean King reverted.
Does that not like, like, listen, if he's really been for like the last year.
Oh, converted. Excuse me.
Fully committed to doing this.
I'm not actually here to make my typical Sean King jokes.
But is he aware that this looks very opportunistic and on brand for some of the bullshit that he's done?
It comes across.
It's the timing is interesting.
But he said that he...
At the start of Ramadan.
At the start of Ramadan, he said he converted to being a Muslim after recognizing the
Palestinian people's, I guess, their plight or their, you know, their hardships and what they're going through right now.
I believe that's what you said, right? June at the top.
Here's a quote here.
My heart is with my dearest friends in Gaza.
And I'm proud that we were able to provide meals tonight to thousands of families from the north to the south.
in Gaza. So he's just saying he's been more involved. It has touched me in the most profound
way to see people right now in the most dangerous, traumatic place on the planet still be
still be able to sometimes look at nothing but rubble and the remains of their family and
still see meaning and purpose in life. So he spoke about nothing specific to the religion
at all. Well, he said together. And then made an announcement before Ramadan. I'm not going to get
into the reasons. That's nuts, but go ahead. Well, he said together we
took shahad and converted to Islam to start off Ramadan.
It was a beautiful, powerful, meaningful day for us that we will never forget.
Him and his wife converted in Dallas, Texas.
I heard of Ramadan.
Okay.
During Ramadan.
No, I'm happy for him.
No notes.
He smoked it.
This is one of the, all right.
What's next?
You got to be happy for Sean.
No, no, no, no.
See, this is why.
That's not fair. This is why it's not fair.
Don't do that. Because I respect that religion so much.
Yeah. This became bulletproof.
Because I do not want to clown at all.
I feel you. That religion, because I have too much respect for it.
Yeah.
This looks fucking insane.
I mean, yeah. I agree with you.
Who announces this the day before Ramadan?
Yeah. I mean.
And then instead of talking about the religion, talks about the plight of the Palestinians.
As if that is what defines that religion.
Yeah. I understand.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I know
Listen, bro
I know
Because you know what it is
He tried to make it bulletproof
It's still bullshit
Right, but it's hard to see
It's hard to go at it like that
When somebody is talking about
You know, they've actively been
Trying to help the people in Palestine
They obviously have had a close eye
And everything going on over there
I'm not saying that he hasn't been vocal
That is the religion
Of most people there
Yes
Right
So he's saying that he found
Some attachment to it
because of seeing how the people that literally had nothing and lost everything, lost family members,
lost their homes, lost their city, everything, and they still had this faith and his belief because
of their religion. So he found power in that. So this is why he decided to convert to Islam.
You know what I think to play the cynical side of this like Rory, now that he's converted,
I think it'll be a lot easier for him to raise more money. People will trust him more because
now he has the religion.
He basically, he picked the side, is what you're saying.
Yeah, now people will freely give him more money because he became the deacon in the hood.
Now he can collect and drive up.
Yeah, exactly.
It's his because he's aligned with the original religion now, his intentions must be pure.
Fuck this guy.
I just feel like if you're going to do this announcement, like, you have to give more,
especially before Ramadan.
Like, it's just out of the amount of religious wars that have happened since Sean King has been alive.
like why this one?
I feel you.
Listen, I understand what you're saying.
Why something that now is the most profitable thing to be a part of?
That's why you answered your question.
It was rhetorical.
Yeah.
Is it the most profitable?
What makes it the most profitable?
Attaching yourself with talking points to this conflict right now in the media is extremely profitable.
On top of that, it's the most profitable from an American.
standpoint, as is the amount of money we're sending over there.
Everything to do with this conflict is attached to money, power, and corruption.
It would be the best thing if you are corrupt and looking for money to attach yourself to.
Okay.
Let's see what you're saying now.
Got it.
All right.
Now, sorry, this is not me defending Andrew Tate.
I swear, even though he's the last man on earth, the rest of us are pussy.
I'm not saying, and I'm, again, not trying to religion shame him.
if he has converted, more respect to him.
But he was in jail.
And you get more benefits.
You get certain things if you convert.
I don't think he converted.
I understood it.
I don't think he converted in jail, though.
I don't think that.
We got to look that up, Julian.
I don't think he converted to Islam in jail, though.
It might have happened before, right before his arrest.
Well, it was, you know, it was pretty well-time.
So shortly before his arrest in December 22, he claimed.
Before that, he was an Orthodox Christian and atheists.
Yeah.
How are you both Orthodox Christian and atheists?
Yeah, Tate all over the place, ain't he?
He's just out there trying shit.
That's how you bipolar religion.
Like, more religion.
You know, sometimes when bad shit happens, like, yo, fuck this.
Yeah.
There's no way God is real.
If he is real, he's real, he's real.
he's an asshole.
Yeah.
So I feel Tate.
Sometimes you got to feel like that to convert to a certain religion.
I get it.
Perfect segue.
Right into Orthodox Christianity.
The West family.
Are you going to cop Northwest?
Sometimes I feel like Kanye is one of those Christians and atheists at the same time.
He's a Christian.
Then sometimes he's God.
And then other times he's rapping about fucking bitches.
But then Jesus is King will come out in July.
Then we'll go back to just fucking random thoughts.
But are you guys going to cop the elementary school dropout by Northwest?
Album announced at the Maltors 2 listening session.
Not for me.
Not for me either.
And I'm glad.
I mean, it would be weird if we thought that was for us.
I don't think these kids have their little bow-wow beware of the dog album.
I think North could deliver that.
She could be there, Chris.
I'm sorry, we're age difference here.
Their crisscross.
You might have just did something.
Hold on.
Her dad is one of the greatest producers ever.
Worked for Germain Dupree.
One of the greatest creators ever.
She has access to writers.
Him, her dad.
I think maybe she'll get a Kanye beat.
The music is going to be interesting.
I don't know what the context is going to be
or the content of the music.
Her freestyle was great.
She found a pocket.
You get someone to write for her.
She got a James Blake feature.
Yeah, he cleared the sample.
Well, that's what I'm saying.
access to that because of who her her dad is.
But shit, I don't, I'm not, I can't listen to this.
I mean, the kids, they all, they have their TikTok stars and all that shit, but that whole
like young artist rapper thing is gone.
There's no bow wows.
There's no, everything that JD was doing in Atlanta.
It's young rappers out here, but their content is drastically, these little, it's an 11-year-old
nigger on YouTube I'm scared of.
I'm for sure he got three-bodied.
And he could rap really well.
And he's definitely a murderer.
Yeah.
I'm saying like the pop rapper,
the way Romeo and Bow Wow were for me.
Right.
I was 12 when Beware of the dog came out.
I knew every lyric.
These kids don't have that.
And I think it's been generation since it's happened.
They had what, Hannah Montana after that?
Hannah Montana.
Like who else, who has been like the child stars in music?
Beaver.
A bad baby?
Bebebebebs, yeah.
But no rap.
Yeah, Beavs is there, though.
So is this going to be rap?
I think she'll probably do both.
Yeah, they throw some tune on there.
I can see Aunt Clemens and Ty Wrightner some shit.
I just can't.
I can't subscribe to this, man.
It's just like this is...
You think she'll own her masters?
This is...
Of course.
This is like nepotism at his finest.
Okay, but is this good nepotism?
We got to hear the music.
I'm scared that Kanye is
gonna care too much about the music and have North saying some wild shit that she's no
idea what she say. I'm not saying necessarily like anything, uh, sexual or, or inappropriate
in that regards. Like, I think she may like throw a shot at the Jews that Kanye, you know,
wouldn't want to say himself. Like, North just might get that subliminal. How much control,
how much control does Kim have over this? Probably none. No, I'm, what? I'm gonna sound like a
Kanye standing here.
I think he cares about Kim's opinion of his daughter.
Of course, bro, that's her mother.
Of course, Kim is going to have something to say.
She's going to hear all of this and she's going to approve or disapprove of what she doesn't want.
But he is also a spiteful father.
And you can say whether he's right in that regard or not.
He wasn't even invited to the birthday party.
Like, he made, this could be his, you know, his get back album.
Getting back at Kim through their daughter, through the music.
If anyone would do it.
It's Kanye.
Kanye Westwood.
It's actually a great.
idea. It's actually a terrible idea.
Why? Because you're using your kids. Yes.
Well, that's all they do. Their whole family, the
whole Kardashian lineage is using their kids.
It's still a terrible idea. It's a terrible thing. It was fine when they did it?
No, it wasn't. I never said it was fine. Connie's not the type of person
to break a cycle. What's, all right, what's worse, though,
using your kid for reality TV and paparazzi shit
or a spite album to your ex-wife?
I think there's way more damage with a spite album.
Spite album is fire, though.
Because that's something that lived forever. Like,
If you do a reality show, it's like I got to, I kind of got to go back and find that shit.
Despite album, though.
You know, if I get, if I pen a diss to my ex-wife and let my daughter spit it, I win.
Courts can do whatever they want with me.
If I could ether my wife through, through my daughter to say how much she likes
dad's house more than hers, I wouldn't.
All right.
Bro, just find the time here because we might have to delete this, but I'm going to ask you question.
No, no.
Find the time to keep it for a clip.
No, no.
is is is is is she the the kid that he had contemplating getting an abortion yes oh this niggas pin might be crazy
yo you the kid i you the kid i wanted to get rid of but i'm glad i didn't first of all that
happens a lot where their kid makes the makes an album oh no not no that's what you're talking about
no i'm saying where parents want to have contemplated yeah but everybody's parent is not fucking conier west
No, but I think they keep the kid.
Yeah, but now the kid is making an album that I'm executive producing,
that I'm bringing in writers for.
Like, this is a kid that I essentially thought about getting an abortion for.
We might hear some of the greatest shit ever.
I don't get how that what do you think is going to derive?
Because they're way past, I'm sure they don't even think about that anymore.
Like, we didn't want it.
Like, they're 10 years old.
If she flips like some pox shit, your plan B couldn't kill me.
I took it and smiled.
Like, she could get her shit off.
You'll be at the steam room with this banging, Julian.
To a 10-year-old?
Yeah.
Plan B didn't kill me.
I took it and smiled?
If North got that bar off on the intro?
I took the Plan B and smiled.
You know when Pox said that five shots couldn't stop me.
I took it and smiled.
A North flip?
I don't know, man.
It's not for me, but I'm going to have to hear the music.
I'll check it out.
Wait, but what North bars could get off if, if you,
Vie was the one that admitted he wanted the abortion.
And if he's EP in it.
No, but I'm saying that now the daughter or the kid can now have that conversation
with the parent that thought of it.
You see what I'm saying?
Like a song like that song.
Similar to when Kanye and Ti had that conversation.
They had that conversation?
We bury that song a lot.
What song is that?
Pull it up.
Right after he put on that MAGA hat, T.I. and Kanye had a combo back and forth.
Yay versus the people.
That is one of the worst.
We buried this in one day and I want to bring it back to life.
Did they talk about getting an abortion?
No, but T.I use big words to try to tell Kanye that he's selling out.
Oh.
It was one of those like conversation raps.
Ah.
But do you think Kanye does that with North on the abortion thing?
I think that would be.
And just blames the Democrats?
That could be dope.
Well, I don't know about blaming the Democrat, but that could be dope.
I mean, he did in the bulletproof vest when he was crying.
I forgot about that.
Is this?
Okay.
That's the intro.
That's a vocal sample.
I forgot about what Kanye was running for president.
He went up there with a bulletproof vestal and started crying.
Oh, man.
Is this any worse than who's worse?
Kanye in this situation making,
well, not making,
let's assume North wants to do it.
Helping North put out an album in a spite album.
Is this any worse than what Christianer did to Kim?
What did the Christianer do to Kim?
With the tape and like,
make.
Okay, but Kim could consent.
at that time to put that out.
North is a child,
so I don't know if she can consent
to this rap's coming out.
And I don't think Kanye West
is going to do a spite album
with Northwest,
but it's fun to speculate.
She also said she wanted to be
a basketball player and a rapper.
So I don't think he's doing anything wrong.
Yeah, like every 10-year-old kid.
Yeah, but not all of our fathers
are Kanye West where if we can make it happen.
They want to do with their life.
This was a sick-ass rally, man.
Why did this happen?
He did this with no microphone, right?
He just yelled really loud.
Yeah, I mean, this is going out there with no mic and crying.
I would have went to the rally.
Of course you would have.
Going to a Kanye rally would be incredible.
No.
I'm an orthodox Christian and atheist.
No, but you, Kanye is your like, your generation is, like, Kanye is y'all like,
he's the pinnacle.
Yeah, but there's plenty of artists that I think are the pinnacle that I don't want to run for president.
I would go to the rally just like to laugh.
Oh, okay.
This would be fun just to experience to say I was there.
Yeah.
I wouldn't be there wondering what Yeh's talking points were.
I would walk out like, of course he's in a bulletproof vest.
I remember he had some, he had, I mean, obviously it's Kanye, so it's going to come,
it's going to get lost in the noise and the confusion of him doing all this.
But he did have some good points that he was trying to make, though.
It's just that it was Kanye so people didn't ignore it.
But he had some shit even saying up there.
It was like, okay, I'm not mad at that.
He had what Candice Owens repeated to him.
him in the green room before he walked on stage.
Whoever repeated it, the points were good.
Kanye always pushes albums back and kids are not patient.
Do we think North after two weeks of recording just goes off and finds a new hobby?
I don't think North is finishing this on Kanye's time line.
I think that's fun, like a fun play date for a week at Dad's House.
And then I'm cool with what we're doing.
I think this would just be like a quick like when Kanye spent out the seven song,
seven songs with all of the artists
I think it'll be something like that
I think it'll just be something quick
Can you diss other kids
Like if you're all right
You're EPing your kid's album
What are the lines you really can't cross
Like can she talk her shit
Can she call other kids Brokeys
Like can she really get in her rap bag
Can she go down her whole block in Calabasas
and just talk shit about every celebrity's kid
I don't know if you want to do that
That it's rat
Yeah but it's not yeah but it's different
your your your your your your parents are wealthy you don't want to put that out there you
driving down a block shit on other kids like no that's you think she calls out uh what is like
who adonis drake's on no joan keep the beef why not no and then just see yo another thing
willow control your daddy like what if you just really starts throwing bars out there i think
willow's like she's like a grown grown woman I think yeah
I think y'all have gone completely.
Also, what if you get dissed by North and you're an adult?
Do you fire back by rap laws?
If North get at me, do I not have to reply?
No.
No, as a guy, got to get in the booth.
Should North be, yeah, should North be worried?
Because as another female rapping, how long until Nikki starts cussing at her and yelling at North?
Yo, I can't wait for you to, like, go outside and just run into all the people.
No, no, no, I'm talking about like...
To Kenny.
Yeah, like...
Kenny will break parole without a hesitation.
He doesn't get to fuck.
He's going to crash out.
He goes crash.
He lives in the crash.
He lives in a total car.
He can't wait.
He's AAA.
The movie crash.
He's AAA.
If we want to be real about it, that nigg is AAA.
He's like, wait, I could flip this car one more time.
Bet.
Speed up.
It's like GTA.
Yeah.
Oh, man.
That's funny.
Speaking of family business, I've been paying attention.
What's been going on with Dame and this Rockefeller shit?
Man.
People still care about it.
I don't care.
Everyone's saying, you, Dame, stop talking about it.
It's a new situation.
Yeah.
I think it warrants a new conversation.
I mean, I spoke to, I spoke to Biggs, man.
And I just because I didn't know what was true.
You know, you see shit online.
I'm like, is this true?
I had you.
Yeah, he said, yeah.
and then he said other things that I won't repeat.
But that's how I knew he was, like this whole situation for him was kind of like epistem all.
Because he said some things in that text that I never thought he would say in regards to Dane.
So for those that don't know, the latest on the Rockefeller breakup is Dame lost a lawsuit to that lawyer, Chris Brown,
that he has been going back and forth with for 15 years now.
It was for a film, right?
Yeah.
So he lost that, and based on his assets to pay back the 840K, something like that,
he didn't have the proper assets.
The only asset he had is his stake in Rockefeller.
So when you lose a lawsuit and don't have any money,
they try to dilute anything that you, they'll take your house,
they'll take whatever they can to get the money.
Now, Dame's highest asset is his, I guess, 33.3% in Rockefeller,
if they're even partners.
the judge said he has to sell that
to get the money to pay this lawyer Chris Brown.
Now, obviously, Dane can get way more than $800,000
for his 33.3% stake in Rockefeller.
Mason Cameron alluded on their show that they bought it
and we're also going to sell it to Nas after that.
They were going to flip it, which is fucking crazy.
Then Dane sat with math recently,
which is a really good interview at his studio.
He alluded that maybe they had it,
maybe they didn't have it,
but he wanted to go out and shop it.
He wanted to be his decision of who could sell it.
He said he made Cam VP in 2003 at Ruffwood everyone's feathers.
Now Cam can be CEO.
Sometimes I think Dame just talks to make things funny.
Obviously, if you just buy 33.3% of Rockefeller,
you're not the CEO automatically,
but I think this is super interesting.
Interesting.
I don't know about interesting.
I think that it's something that we should pay attention to because him selling his share.
Just say he hypothetically, if he sells his share to Cam and Mace, people know the history
or the energy between Jay, Cam and Mace.
I'm not sure it still stands there today.
everybody's grown in now a lot of years has passed but people know the history i think all of that
is a spike it has a lot it has the energy of a spite move on it which to me is is weird as 40 plus year old
men 50 year old men to still be running around with spiteful energy is just weird to me but um
I think it could be both though like if cam is my friend and I know he has a liquid bread yeah
I could be like, yo, because of this court situation, I owe this.
Give me $840,000.
You can hold my stake.
I'll pay off the guy.
And then once I get my $840K back, I'll buy it back from, you know, a monopoly when people hold properties.
Yeah.
I could see a world where that makes sense.
But you should just do that with Biggs and Jay.
Like, why don't you just do that with Biggs and Jay?
You don't need to bring Cam into this.
So what if...
Just let Biggs and Jay hold it.
So what if Jay and Biggs say, yo, listen.
we're going to pay the 800 or something
just so you can retain
ownership. Do I hate Biggs and Jay?
Let's say you do, yeah.
So then it would be spite.
Back to our pride conversation.
It would be spiked.
If you hate your partners
and they say, listen, we're going to pay that for you,
hypothetically.
Of course, yeah.
Right?
Let's say Jay says,
yo, dame, I'm going to pay that fine
or whatever that fee is
just so you can retain your own
ownership in Rockefeller LLC.
And then you say as Dame,
nah, I don't want that.
Have I spent the last portion of my career going on media runs saying,
yeah,
calling another man boss is like calling him daddy.
If you take money from anybody, you're a sucker.
Yeah.
Yeah, I can't.
That's crazy.
Oh, I agree. It's fucking crazy.
That's a spiteful.
That's back to the pride shit we were talking about.
I feel dame on that pride to some degree.
If I have an issue with somebody within my company and you kind of call me on some float shit, yeah, that's where ego gets really fucked up and can destroy things.
But here's the thing.
We all know as men, as men, even as women, you have ego.
You have pride.
We all do.
Everybody walking this planet has ego and has pride.
it's all about knowing when and where to turn it on, turn it off, turn it up, turn it down.
That's the important thing about ego and pride.
It's knowing where to channel it, ego and pride, how to channel it, when to turn it off, when to eliminate it, when to present it, when to push it forward.
So as business partners, as friends first, that have created history together, that have created something so iconic and something that means so much to
the culture of hip hop that has given business models to everybody that came after of being
business owners, owning clothing lines and movies and all these things, right?
We did that.
And now it's at a point where, okay, we're not in business together anymore on other
ventures and projects, but this we still own together.
You now face hardships with a lawsuit and don't have the liquid to pay.
the lawsuit and things like that,
I am over here on this side
doing business that I'm doing
and I have the liquid available for you.
And I say,
yo, listen, I'll take care of that
just so you can retain that
because moving forward,
if we ever want to do something
with Rockefeller LLC,
I would rather come directly to the three
that originated this
and that started this
than to have to now go
to a third party
who bought your ownership
because you came across a lawsuit that you couldn't pay liquid.
Hasbro buying death row.
So now I got to go sit and talk to them?
No, I'd rather not do that.
So here, I'll take care of that for you.
Don't worry about it.
I just want you to retain that ownership because moving forward,
if we do anything together and do any business with this company,
I don't want to talk to some random dude that just bought your ownership a year ago.
I don't want to sit down and talk business with it.
Yeah, he has no idea what to do with this specific brand.
So at that point,
You're supposed to remove your ego and say, you know what?
I appreciate that, bro.
Thank you.
Makes all the logical sense in the world before you start, Demarest.
Can we add in one hypothetical but possible we can speculate monkey wrench into that situation?
I don't get along with you guys.
We have not done much around reasonable doubt, period.
The only thing that I'm holding stake here now is just royalties off as streams.
And if we end up wanting to sell the catalog at some point,
I would get a check.
My first question would be like, all right, guys, if you do that, are we now going to work
together and monetize what we're owning here?
Because we're not doing anything with it.
And we already don't get along.
So it has to be something really important, like a whole series about the making.
You have to really do some content around that to monetize it.
If I have the option where I'm kind of in a hole in the moment and can sell off my stakes
to go do what the fuck I'm going to do, instead of not doing anything, because I'm not doing
anything because we weren't doing anything over here to begin with. Yeah, I might liquidate this
shit and try to get $5 million out of my shit, pay my $800,000 debt and move on with the rest of it
and go do what I want to do. Yeah. Because we weren't, if we're not going to work together in general,
why are you paying this $800 grand for me? Because you're a friend of mine, even though we're not
what we used to be as far as like our relationship and how much we hang out and kick it, we're still,
like you're not an enemy. But of course.
But if we're not doing a business, why shouldn't I just sell my shit and liquidate and get it out of it?
Because this is history.
Because this is history.
I agree.
This is history.
And we made this together.
We made history together.
I don't want some random third party guy now coming in that I don't even know sitting at the table discussing my history.
And not only that.
On a selfish level of-
You're talking about selling it.
You told my selling it to people that at one point another, I had a little issue with it.
I had a little tension with I had a little back and forth with.
I'm just saying.
Yeah.
At one point.
Yeah, I don't know if the Mace thing was ever solved.
You understand what I'm saying?
Mace, Cam, Nause.
Him and Nause are cool now.
I don't know.
They're both grown and bought under the bridge.
Nause would never do that unless he was.
Well, actually, I don't know.
But this is what I'm saying.
Since he's cool with Jay, he actually might.
This is what I'm saying.
So now what happens if, right, you do all of that.
Sell the Mason Cam, right?
And then Mason Cam say, you know what?
We're going to sell it to Nas because you know that's a spite move.
It's all spiteful moves.
Sell it to Nas.
Then what if Nas is the businessman that he is,
call Jay and be like,
you're here, man, you want this 32%.
Now Jay got it back anyway and you don't have nothing.
Okay.
So what was the point in that?
I have a strategy that could go two ways.
Dane puts it up for auction.
I go up there with my silent partners,
which is Hove and Biggs is my backing,
but nobody knows that.
Dame just sees my face
and sees a culture vulture
about to buy his 33.3%.
If I win,
Jay and Biggs get it.
But if Dame sees my white face,
maybe he doesn't sell
and goes back to Biggs and Jay.
It's like,
you know, I can't let these white people buy the shit.
And now they're partners again.
I think I could be the factor
to solve this entire thing
at the auction.
Yeah, I think they would kick you out of the auction
as soon as they saw your bed.
But what if I had Hove and Biggs money as my silent partner?
I come with their money.
Yeah, I don't.
And then I just give it to them.
Yeah, I don't think Hove need you to go anywhere with his money.
It's the white face.
It's not me.
Yeah, no, I get it, but I just don't.
All right, we'll send Peach.
It doesn't have to be me.
Just any white face?
Yes, it's just a white boy in there to just get,
I'm talking and say, no, I don't want to do business.
Yes, we'll send Benner or Pete, Benner and Peach together.
Yeah.
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Do we have a voice mouse?
You've got mail.
We do.
You know, class, let's lead into a relationship question.
So my girls got the emotional understanding of a rock.
For example, I've recently found out of my mom's going at stage four cancer.
And when I let her know about it, her response was, damn, so we're not going to have
tonight. But in retrospect, it's really
fucking hilarious. Now, I think about it. It's
pretty fucking funny. But at the time, yeah, that's not
what I needed. So now, you know, we're going through
a lot when my mom got to take her
chemotherapy's and
she, I don't talk to her about
that process and I can tell it as bugging her.
Is there a way for me to like ease her into that process
or like kind of that conversation?
Ease her into what?
So is, his girl's dumb?
And it sounds like she lacks the
emotional empathy
that he's looking for in a time of need.
He's losing his mom to cancer.
You know, stage four is obviously fatal.
It's a matter of when, not if.
So he's saying he can't have these conversations with her
because she's just not built for, you know, comforting
or just really anything other than pussy, it seems.
Well, all right, let's not put that on her right away.
Like dropping that.
He said it.
Okay.
He said, my mom has stage four cancer.
She said, damn.
So we're not going to have sex.
tonight.
What situation?
Like, how did he drop that to it?
Like, were they in bed about to have sex?
And then I'm not saying what she said was right, but like she may have had a fucking
like crazy reaction to hearing that and in that situation.
We've all had socially awkward experiences and said the wrong thing when someone says
something wild to you.
You're like, oh, fuck.
Yeah, but if my mom has stage four cancer, does my dick even work at that point?
Like, I don't know if I get horny if my mom was in the hospital fighting for her life.
also the wrong approach.
I'm just saying, like, I don't even know if I wanted,
so if my girl's saying, we not having sex,
my dick has not been hard since I got this news
that my mom has staged for it.
Okay, well, then that kind of goes into my point.
She should know that sex isn't the answer.
Like, we should be having a conversation, not you.
I'm preparing to say goodbye to my mom.
Yeah.
You think I want to climb on top of you tonight and go to Poundtown?
Okay, but how did he present?
Like, were they in the living room, like sitting down,
like I have some news to think?
How did that matter?
Well, we don't know.
I'm thinking about the situation.
I'm trying to give his girl some bail.
Like, she really may care, but he may have said it in the weirdest situation ever.
They were in bed.
About to fuck.
Why I got to be about the fuck?
We can just be in bed laying down.
I'm not saying she's right.
I'm just trying to add the human factor of maybe he dropped it on her and she felt
super awkward and they were already about to fuck.
And it was like, all right, what do you want me to do with this?
I don't think he was about to have sex and drop that.
Yeah.
By the way.
Yeah, like, yo, by the way, while you're down there.
licking my shaft,
moms is fighting stage four cancer right now.
It's terminal.
I don't think nobody drops that in that moment.
I think, like he said, he dropped it.
Drop that info. So they do it in weird times.
He dropped that info on her. And she was like,
she probably was focused. She probably was horny.
And it's like, oh, shit, so that means we can't have sex tonight?
That's exactly with that. That's a wild response.
I'm just, that's exactly with that.
Okay. So he wants to, it's obviously like anybody with their significant,
he wants to be comfortable enough to open a,
up to her. What can he do, if anything, to make her? I'm not, obviously, it doesn't sound like
someone you could do this with. I had a real response to it after we got through that first part.
If talking is not her thing, you can give her a list of ways that she can be there for you during
this time, whether it is helping out with his schedule, whether it's helping clean the crib or
food. Like, there's other ways to support someone without actual verbal communication. If you're
taking care of your mom and trying to spend as much time with your mom before she passes,
maybe she can just lighten the load everywhere else in your...
She's trying to light the load.
That's exactly what she's trying to do.
She can do other things to help your life that gives you the time to spend with your mom.
Yeah, which is what your partner is supposed to do.
Yeah.
And if...
Partner is supposed to find wherever you're lacking at, pull up, you know, help you out,
things like that, especially if your mom is fighting.
terminal cancer. Yeah, and I know this is new to him, so he's going to have to figure out what those
things are. But once you know them, communicate that to her, even if it is a list or a note,
like, hey, these would be very helpful. She just sounds like she's one of them girls that just
don't, you know, some people just ain't sharp. You ever been around a motherfucker that just dull?
You're like, yo, fan, like, how you, what's wrong with you? Like, you didn't read the room at all.
Yeah, like, having a partner, like a significant other that's like that, you could start resenting
that person quick. Like, that person just breathed.
breathing will start to piss you off.
It's like, are you still in here
just breathing in the liver room?
Chewing loud and shit.
Yeah, go outside and do something.
That's when you know it's at a point
where it's like, I don't want to be around this person.
I don't like this person.
I'll lighten the mood a bit to change the scenario.
Has your girl ever just been like, you know, regular sick?
A little bit of a flu or something maybe not as contagious.
Yeah.
You get her settled.
She seems like she's a little bit better.
You ever try to make a move in,
fuck your sick girlfriend.
Or a girl you're talking to anything.
How sick?
Like flu?
COVID and you don't have it yet.
Oh yeah.
Yeah.
Okay.
Mild flu.
And you're not about to travel.
You have nothing really going on.
You could take the week.
It depends.
Is she coming out of the flu?
Because when she first hit it,
when she's first on her,
it's like, you know,
you're just a fucking animal.
If you're trying to have sex with a grecabelle,
stand up. No, not like that. Like she's starting...
She's starting to come out of it. She has the flu, but she hit that turn. She hit that turn.
She walks to the bathroom by herself. Oh, yeah, yeah. Once she hit that turn, and she's like
coming out of it because you can kind of gauge it with her energy level is at a certain... It's like,
okay, you know how when you turn your phone into like low power mode? Yeah. And then it
charges up enough and then it's like, all right, low power mode is turned off. Yeah. Like once her low
power mode is turned off, yeah. You could, you could lay on it. You know what I'm saying? Just
side stroke it a little bit, play. You know what I mean?
you can do that.
And women that, you know,
we're very dramatic when we're sick as men.
I still want head.
Nah, see.
When we was just in L.A., bro,
them first two, they don't.
Well, you were like dying.
Yeah, yeah.
No, I didn't, no.
Hell.
Yeah, you couldn't probably do anything.
Head?
Get the fuck away from me.
No.
Does cum taste different,
Demaris?
This is obviously directed to you.
If the person's sick?
I haven't really ran that experiment, Julian.
I don't know.
I mean, I didn't sick.
You never gave no sick head?
I've never swapped.
Not like AIDS sick, but like...
Sick sperm.
You get the bad sick.
I've never swam.
But does, can the flu be spread through sperm?
Like, if I have a cold, is it in my...
Yeah, wait, that's right.
I don't want to be lied to it.
Bouchy.
Fouchy.
Fouchy was locked up to the ass off, wasn't he?
Fouchy was up there lying his motherfucking ass off.
I don't know if y'all notice, but all you are vaxers out there,
they just classified COVID the same as a flu.
the CDC last week officially.
So you're fucking her if she has COVID.
So I just do with that.
I just, all the people that y'all cursed out
during COVID because they didn't want to get vaccines
and all this shit. I've ate sick pussy before.
It takes to this. Wait, there's great news.
Sex can help with
the respiratory infection
as it turns out, but only for a short term.
Sex triggers endorphins that may provide
temporary relief from symptoms.
But those symptoms will come back quickly.
It's like post-nuclarity.
Exactly. You feel good during the fuck and then once you
bust, your
stings,
your nose is still running.
Yeah.
Damaris,
how would you feel?
And we'll do the reverse
question to the guys
afterwards.
I already know their answer,
though.
Your man has stage four cancer.
Her boyfriend?
Yeah.
Okay.
And he has
an adult make a wish
foundation
in his sights.
Dreya.
His dick still works.
He's got three months
to live.
How crazy can he go?
They've already put him home.
He's not
the hospital anymore. Make him comfortable, put him in his chair, and let him die.
How many bitches can he fuck before he dies? What kind of cancer, though? You probably can't do anything.
I said his dick works. It's not colon cancer. He's not that freaky.
However many he wants to. Get your shit off. Fuck until you pass out and die.
Gangston. You didn't want that answer. I know he didn't want that answer.
No, it's not that I didn't. No, I wanted that answer. You didn't prepare for that answer.
No, no, no, no, no.
You guys are missing why I'm perplexing.
He didn't prepare.
He didn't study.
Amaris would let her man do that if she participates without cancer.
I'm now thinking about if I had stage four cancer, me trying to tell my girl that.
I don't know if I'd be received with the same.
Good luck.
No, I think that.
Oh, you know.
Well, you know.
Thanks, thanks, guys.
You could have stage.
You can die at low.
You could be first stage and she wouldn't be having that shit.
But I think that any woman, if you're fucking significant other is dying.
And he's like, listen, man, I just want to go out and I just want to fucking, I want to fuck like an animal for these next.
The doctors gave me 100 days to live.
That's a lot of pussy.
I just want to, for these next hundred days, I want to have as much sex as possible.
Plant my seed.
Well, that's crazy.
Genghis Khan type B.
Yeah, that's great.
Then I got to share my money that you left me with them if you start planting seeds.
Yes.
All right.
No kids will happen.
your girl can participate.
Is it that crazy even asked?
I don't want to have no cancer threesome.
Why not?
You fucking half a carcass.
But this is why.
You heard of marriage shit.
I don't want to have no cancer threesome.
Like you know, why not?
But you don't want to.
You can't catch it.
It's just ass.
You know what?
You know that.
He's gonna be out of breath.
He got chemo dick.
He's in.
The dig works and he can sit right there.
You're on how.
Exit.
That's ass.
Who wants to do that?
You're not going to fuck your man to his deathbed?
No,
I didn't say that, but I don't want the threesome.
Well, no, that's helpful to you.
You get an able body next to you.
Yeah, like she could do.
You went away at that point.
All right, so you would have sex with your man.
Then let me watch.
If he's terminally ill.
Okay, you could watch.
You would have sex with your boyfriend if he's terminally ill.
Of course.
I would do anything for my man if he was terminally ill.
I would do anything for my man if he was healthy, especially if he's terminally ill.
Hmm.
Copy.
Okay.
Reverse question.
Fellas.
No.
And this is why double standards are funny?
Just, hey, no.
This is why double standards are funny because.
a bunch of girls going to fuck the stage four cancer guy
that Dick still work would be looked at as like,
those are nice charitable girls that care.
Sex workers.
A bunch of men going to fuck a girl with stage four cancer
would be the sickest thing on earth.
Yeah, that's crazy.
You can't go in there with a girl that's terminally ill.
You can't go fuck a girl with stage four.
And you're talking about, yo, bend over.
Bend over.
A plug might fall out, dude.
Bend over?
She got a plug in her chest.
Like, the women would be angels.
and the men would be the creepiest men on earth.
Yeah.
It's certain things that we just can't do.
And let's say you're with it.
Let's say your girl's last dream is like,
yo, I just want a bunch of guys to fuck me
and you're with that type of shit.
How do you gather?
Of course, hypothetical.
How do you gather the men?
You not let her fuck up.
That's the only way she could do that is if she's dying.
You still not going to be.
She's out of here.
I'm going to be single in two weeks.
I was going to say all would just be looking forward to any single again.
When those guys show up,
ticket.
Give me a break.
Yeah.
Go on fuck someone else.
If my girl's turn.
terminally ill, which is weird, that her dream or her dying wish would be like,
yo, I just want to have a train ran on me?
Listen, man, she's dying.
You're still going to say to that, ain't your girl?
Is your eulogy going to be different at the funeral?
Oh, 100%.
But let me tell you what she wanted, like going out.
Let me tell you what her dying wish was.
Before all the family members come up here and say nice things.
She was a whore.
Yeah, not me and her going to Paris and kissing under the Eiffel Tower.
That wasn't her dying wish.
No, she just wanted to get Eiffel Tower.
Yeah, she wanted to beat the Eiffel Tower.
You wanted to get a train ran on it.
Yeah.
Also.
But how do you find like, how do you get the fellas together?
What guy would want to fuck the cancer pussy?
Yeah.
There's not a lot of men that's willing to do that.
That's a stupid.
Getting that crew together.
I wouldn't even know where to reach out.
Well,
I don't even know if Craigslist would be down for that.
You don't have to tell them that you have cancer.
Like, for example, if you have brain cancer.
If you're terminally ill.
Yeah.
If you got like a month to live,
I feel like you look like you have a month to live.
Like, you don't look like how you look right now to
You have a month to live.
It doesn't work like that.
Yeah.
Like you're fading.
Like it's like you can see it.
You know what I'm saying?
But like what are like some of those crazy brain tumors?
You know, just a little bump right there.
And you got like two weeks to live.
Still could be a bad bitch.
Yeah, but you probably don't.
She doesn't have no hair.
Just put like a wig.
She's, she looks sick.
Her complexion.
You guys are like assuming that people still want to fuck.
I feel like they have no drive.
I feel like this to deplete your sex drive.
Oh, I already.
know. If it's Kant Terminal 4, I don't want to, I had to fucking, whatever I had,
and I didn't want to leave me to fucking long.
People have done remarkable things with adrenaline right before they died.
Like, if that's their last wish, I think they would, you know,
they'd have some superhuman strength to get that last train.
And then they would die.
But imagine if you fucked a girl and then she just died.
Like right.
Like, right, yeah.
Like, you knew she had cancer.
So you know, you didn't like.
Oh, that just means I killed that person.
I was about to say, that'd be a crazy ego boost for me.
You don't even get it.
If I fucked her and she died, I would be like...
I killed the pussy.
Literally.
You couldn't tell me shit after that.
Yo, baby, I killed the pussy.
What you want me?
That bitch in their dead.
What you want me to do, y'all?
Wouldn't you get charged with it?
What?
Would you get charged with it?
No, but we know she has stage four.
Charged with it.
What?
She had stage four kids.
And like if the EMTs came...
You wanted me to come up sex with her.
To like bag her up.
Nah, I'd take my moment.
I would carry her out to the ambulance.
Like, we don't need a stretcher.
Nah, man.
Zip hug.
You know, we don't need a stretch.
I already did.
Yeah, we got another voicemail.
No, that's good.
That was terrible.
I,
uh,
yeah,
I didn't give that man advice,
by the way.
Yeah,
put a list together of other ways
that she can dump her
help lighten alone for you.
I don't know.
It's not someone I would probably want to spend a lot of time with
romantically or intimately.
Oh,
we didn't ask the most important question.
Oh, Jesus.
What's her relationship like with your mother?
Sorry.
Oh.
True.
You see what I'm saying?
Yeah, maybe we're not fucking tonight was a nice thing to say instead of, thank God.
Maybe she don't fuck with your mother.
Like, maybe your mother don't fuck with her.
Like, they don't get along.
It could be that.
See?
It could be that.
We ain't think about that.
It could be that.
Maybe her mother never really liked her and she knew that.
And now that the mother's dying.
She's probably like, my ancestors don't play about me.
Hmm.
What is the proper thing to say, though?
Not what she said.
I agree.
All right.
But like what?
Damn.
How long?
Well, let's focus on making her happy and keeping her comfortable no matter how many days she has left.
Some people don't.
None of us know how many days we have left.
You say shit like that.
Some people don't know how to deal with tragedy.
It makes them very awkward or uncomfortable.
Same type of people who laugh at funerals.
And I'm not standing up for her because I couldn't be with somebody like that.
But some people don't know how to handle situations like that.
Laughing at a funeral is crazy.
A lot of people.
Yeah.
But laughing how, though?
Is somebody up there telling?
Yeah, but like because of what?
Because somebody said is like saying a funny memory about the person?
Cackling out of the discomfort of being out of funeral.
Like if somebody's up at the casket, ball and crying, are you just in the third row crying laughing?
They're not laughing at anybody.
The same way that other people are crying, they're laughing.
I have never seen that.
It happens.
It's not like an obnoxious like death of funeral way.
If somebody got up there and saying something funny about the person at that bad.
It's like that's what we're laughing.
Yeah.
But if somebody.
just sitting down and nobody's saying nothing
and they're just back there laughing.
I've never seen. First of all, we asked that nigga like,
who is that? Here. Yeah, like, you could go
outside. You could wait in the parking lot, fam.
Like, I don't even know what side of the family
you from. We never seen you before. You just ain't here
giggling. No, you can get out.
The big ariola video that we play
before we go on stage, would you let that
play at your funeral? Gangster, yeah,
play that. I'm with you. Show all my
highlights and low lights.
I'm not here. I don't give a fuck.
What low lights would you like?
I don't know.
No, anything.
Ugly bitch you fucked from seventh grade.
Nah, she better be second row.
You better bury her with me.
Don't, nobody.
Alive?
Yeah, no, no.
Yeah, alive.
Put her in here, too.
Nah, I mean, but a casket is pretty much like just a college dorm room bed.
Put her in here.
There's not a lot of space.
Ain't nobody going to know about that.
The ugly, not my ugly bodies.
Y'all can't bring that up.
What stuff would you guys like to be put in your casket?
Like to go down with you?
Besides the fat chick from seventh grade.
I don't know
My iPad
Some salmon
Oh no
Put some speakers in my shit
It would be dope to put speakers in like
Your casket
And then like when y'all come to my
Y'all got the Bluetooth to my shit
When y'all come to my tomb
Yeah
And then y'all like to play some music
Y'all can hear it coming out of the dirt
That's gangster
I mean I'm a hoarder
And again back to being Orthodox Christian atheist
Maybe that's the stuff
We have in the afterlife
like throw as much shit as you can in there.
And your casket?
Yeah, like what happens if I can actually take that stuff?
Humans are very arrogant.
Like you can't take it with you.
How do you know?
That's true.
So what you want?
Like your slides?
10 racks and ones.
Okay.
Just in case.
Never know where you might end up.
Just in case you wake up in Atlanta?
You know there's grave robbers, right?
People rob graves.
If they do that, they deserve it.
Good for them.
That means they found a good one.
Anybody running around Robin Graves?
If you out of robbing graves, you need.
it more than my, my, my, what's that show called where they go to the old, uh, the old, uh, closet
things and they, they, they bit on it and they clip the lock and you get everything in it.
You know, like the old like, oh, uh, storage storage wars.
It's like that, but except illegal and you're just going at it.
But if you've come across a, imagine, imagine digging up a grave and you think somebody
got something in there and you open the cask is nothing in there.
Like, pick a mailbox lock, like, uh, nothing today.
But it's, now what?
But if you go to Rory's and you got $10,000, cash, that's a great.
Grave robbers, though, they don't just dig up random graves.
No, they know exactly where they're going.
They have information about, like, rich families that leave shit there.
Yeah, like, Rory coming on a podcast that's syndicated, man, I'm putting $10,000.
If you dig six feet for, you're going to have to do it pretty quickly, too, because that money is going to disintegrate.
Yeah, good for you.
And you want to do it early anyway, because the soil's soft.
Just tuck me back in.
Like, just be polite about it.
Yeah, put me back.
And if the 10K isn't there, then, you know, I'd just, just,
discovered something for you. You can take it with you.
Sorry, Andrew Tate. I solved it.
Sorry, Sean King. I have the keys to the world.
Put a router in mine just in case.
There's Wi-Fi down there. You never know.
Like a really strong router.
My phone. Barry me with my phone. I'll leave my phone.
My MacBook, too.
Do you want... Can you bury me with my iCloud? Is that possible?
Do you want your phone... Give it up, bro. She can see it.
You want to be buried with your phone? Or would you like...
Oh, yeah.
You don't want to be buried with your phone? Or would you like... Oh, yeah. You don't want to
have access to your text messages?
Nah.
Nah,
my little sister
could keep my phone.
I told her she can keep,
she's my designated phone
keeper when I died.
And she could go through it?
Yeah,
my little sister,
yeah.
I saw a meme,
somebody had an Apple Watch
preset and it said
if their heart rate
falls below,
it was like one or two beats
per minute to,
to automatically delete
everything on there,
just wipe the factory reset
their whole,
I love it.
Yeah.
And I was like,
that is genius.
That's fire.
That's the safety all.
just boom if I'm dying
clean the house
delete all of the issue
whatever there's a mouth
like function
in the watch
and like you're just chilling
like these things are
these things fuck up
you're sitting there watching the game
and you're like
trying to get a text
you're like oh shit
I ain't dead
my photos
what the fuck
yeah that's crazy
when you think about it
your phone factory reset
and you you just sitting here
chilling
yeah
nah that's crazy
that happened to me
one time though. My phone was shut off and then cut back on and everything was gone.
How much money would you have to, someone have to give you mall to let your girl go through
your iCloud? How much money would somebody have to give me? Yeah. You got to give me at least
because you're banking on the relationship's over. So how much is... Oh, the relationship
is fucking cooked. We know. I'm not worried about that. Um, you got to get me at least five mil
to go through my phone at least. I would lie to cash to get the five.
mil because boy she went through it more than once there's nothing she hasn't seen in there
oh you too much your girl yeah that's not now now i would lie about like yo just give me five mil
she can go through it that's nice and then we'd we'd laugh off into the sunset well i tell me how did
you feel when your girl with your phone that first 30 seconds when like she made it how does that happen
do it or you told her to she just did it who tells that girl to go through their phone julia i don't
know what nigger on this planet has ever told his short of yo passing my phone over there but on the way
back over it, go through it.
The only man that's done that is the man with the confidence that just deleted everything
and is going to look even more guilty.
Go through it.
Why do you only have four text messages in the last 15 years?
Yo, that's what I do.
I don't really talk to me.
Yeah, I'm not like you.
I don't text anyone.
Yeah, I don't really be talking anymore.
Deleting your text threads is the stupidest thing.
You delete the individual messages.
You edit the messages to look the way you want them to look.
You never delete the whole thread.
I don't have that type of patience.
Yeah, I don't know.
I'm not shipping.
Well, you're supposed to do it as you go along, allegedly.
Allegedly.
Allegedly.
So as you send that text
like, yo, I want you to come over
and blow my back out.
As soon as you send it, delete it?
Okay, wait, so Rory, so the first time
just happens?
There wasn't anything specific
in my mind that I was like, oh, fuck.
It was more the paranoia of not remembering.
Like, is there something
that I forgot about
or don't know about?
And then on top of that,
it's not like I have,
my eye cloud goes back to like 2000.
Like if you get a girl with a vendetta,
she'll start looking at shit in 2010 and call you out on it.
Which is stupid.
But then also at the point of like, why do you have that?
It's like, do you think I scrolled back to 2010 to find that video?
Like, I don't know.
Anything before I started dating, you don't count.
Like, if my girl go through my phone, anything that is before we started dating, you can't get mad at none of that.
I don't think you're going through phones, but let's say in a hypothetical world that you do and you stumble upon something before you.
out dated, it's still going to affect you.
Yeah, what if you saw her back blown out the month before you guys started dating.
It depends on what it is, though.
Like if I see that she is texting a guy that I had asked about him, she told me that they never
fucked around, then that's different because then that's like, okay, I asked you if you
and homie ever fucked around, you said y'all did.
You clearly lying.
That's different.
But if it's just shit from ex-boyfriends and guys, she flirted with online and I don't
care about that shit.
But you're cool with that still being in her phone.
Yeah.
As long as there's nothing like recent.
But like to the thought she may go back to those videos to watch them.
Of like, damn, he really blew my back out in 2014.
Whether she can go back to the video or not, the nigga blew her back out.
Yeah, it happens.
What I'm going to do, man.
It's a good, mature response.
Yeah, like I can't do nothing about that, man.
It is what it is.
Memories don't live like people do.
They always remember you.
Always member you.
I cloud will always remember you.
Whether things are good or bad.
It's just the Steve Jobs that we had.
Do we have one more voice, ma'am?
Yeah, the second one actually pairs pretty well with the first one we listened to.
It's Damien from Australia here, and I've got a serious question, but yeah.
So my mate, I found out he's only 18.
I've just found out he's told me in fear of anger with his brother that otherwise he probably wouldn't have told me that he's,
He's got cancer and that he only has nine months to live.
Jesus Christ.
And he doesn't spend any of it on treatment.
He just doesn't want to be even more sick and go through that shit.
But the most fucked up part is, and they're all brothers.
And my best mate is his older brother.
And, you know, he doesn't want to tell him.
But I feel that because he's 18, I'm not sure.
I feel, and it's my best mate,
how can I not tell my best mate
that his brother's dying?
But yeah,
anyways, thanks for that.
Well, prayers to your friend and to you
and to his family.
That's tough to do with 18 years old.
I could never imagine.
It's not your place to tell, unfortunately.
Maybe I'm in the minority here,
but if somebody's request
just they don't.
So his best friend's little brother
is dying.
And he knows that his best friend's little brother
has cancer and has not told his older brother
but his older brother is his best friend.
So he's sitting here with his best friend.
That's weird.
Like, damn it.
Well, some people...
Like, I'm not, I wouldn't tell my best friend
I have terminal cancer before telling my brother.
It may be easier to tell someone
that's not as close
than to the closest people to you.
Yeah, but why?
I mean, you know,
hopefully, you know,
I'll never be in that position
to have to tell anybody that,
but I just feel like
your brothers,
your sister,
like,
I feel like they should know
that their sibling only has
because I always look at it like,
okay,
for some reason,
I don't know how they would find out,
but say they found out,
passes away,
they found out that I knew
this whole time
that this person was terminally ill.
I could see a world where they grow resentment towards me for knowing that and not telling them that.
Their fucking brother was terminally ill and didn't want them to know, but told me I knew.
I could see where the siblings cut me off and don't.
The family doesn't talk to me anymore behind that.
I would also.
And I'm here.
I'm still here.
Like in this life, having to move on, live on.
You're not here anymore.
So now we're not friends anymore.
To me, that's a little selfish, though.
I would respect that he respected my little brother's wishes of what he wanted towards the end of his life.
I'm not 18 with terminal cancer.
That's selfish as fuck.
They're like, why didn't you tell me so I could make it a part of me?
Like, if that's, if he didn't want that?
Not a part of you, but your fucking siblings should know that they only have but so much more time with their fucking brother.
I think anybody.
I think that's selfish of me to hold that in and be like, yo, he ain't going to tell y'all, but like, that's your brother.
How is it selfish to you?
How does that serve you?
selfish would be it serves you how does that serve you how does what serve me how does you
keeping that secret serve you how would it make it that i'm trying to figure out why you would
think that it would be selfish how does it how is that i think it selfish if i don't tell your
siblings that they only have 60 days left with their brother or sister but what makes it selfish
because selfish means that is self-serving like i'm known what's best for me you you had this
i know that the clock was on with the time that you had with your sibling i knew that
So if you tell me,
if Rory tells me, yeah,
I only have so-and-so, and he has a brother.
And his brother's like,
yo, I'm gonna go to fucking,
I'm gonna go to Europe for three months
for this job.
I ain't really want to take it.
But I'm gonna go to Europe.
I'm gonna come back out of three months.
And I know Rory only has 60 days left.
We're adding in different factors.
I think at that point maybe.
I'm adding in anything.
The little brother may be like,
all right,
before you do that,
I got three months.
But if I know maybe my family's not
going to react the best way to it,
and it would destroy them and I'd like to live the last few weeks of my life in peace,
yeah, I'd rather them find out when I die.
I just think it's weird to tell me and not tell your siblings.
Why are you telling you that?
Well, because, okay, so what you guys are missing is that the reason why he's not telling his
siblings is because he doesn't want treatment.
For example, Maul, if you went and told your twin right now that you had cancer and that you
didn't want to fight it, you didn't want to go to the hospital, you want,
how do you think she will react to you not wanting to fight cancer?
There would become an argument with your mom, with everybody like, oh, no, you're going to fight this.
You're not going to give up.
That now becomes the story.
It's not, yo, this is what I want to do.
They're not going to let you live in peace with that.
All right.
So you know who else ain't going to live in peace?
Me, once it comes to find out that I knew that you were terminally ill and I didn't tell your brothers and your sisters.
And now for the rest of our lives, they're looking at me like, damn, he, you knew we could have got him treatment.
mean that all of that falls on me now.
Yeah, but they're not really mad.
They're not really mad at you.
Not mad at me because it's not like I gave you.
What they're really mad at is the fact that their brother is gone.
And whether that anger is directed to you.
He's gone. You knew we may have probably could have gotten some treatment, may have been able
to fight this, may have been.
Yeah.
I've been to do.
Not on the side of I knew the person, but I've been in situations where the deceased
told somebody that they was sick or whatever.
The family didn't.
I've been in that situation and I've seen how it turned on the person that knew.
I've seen it.
Yes, but what I'm saying is the person that knows is in a very precarious situation
because I would never want to be in that situation.
You see what I'm saying?
Don't tell me.
That's what I'm saying.
Don't tell me.
Don't confide that in me either because like I don't want to be,
because it's going to be hard for me to sit here and look at your sisters or your brothers
and know that y'all don't even know how much time.
Y'all have like two months left with your brother.
It's hard for me to sit.
Like, that's crazy.
But this is the thing.
Even if, so I can understand wanting to tell them if they had a fucked up,
like if they had a fucked up relationship.
Like, for example, me and my sisters are extremely, extremely, extremely close.
So the only thing that would change if they knew I had cancer compared to if they didn't know
that I had cancer would be them spending their entire, like spending everything making shit weird
and like making shit emotional.
And I would want to chill with them and not have to.
watch them cry, not watch that, have to watch them grieve.
Like, they'll be spending all the next two weeks or the next two months grieving instead
of actually spending time with me instead of fucking laughing about stupid shit.
Like, you see what I'm saying?
I wouldn't get to spend the rest of my life the way that I would want to spend the
rest of my life.
I would become the sick person.
Yeah, and shit wouldn't be the same.
Like tiptoeing around.
Yeah, and it's just like, I don't want the last, my last weeks to be that way.
Yeah, I want you to treat me how you usually treat me.
I want you to fucking be fucking mean to me and kick me out your bedroom.
Like, that's what I want.
Even if you tell your family that and they try, it still is never going to be.
It's not the same.
I just think you got to tell your family, man.
That's family, what he called, it's too late for that now.
So what he's calling for is advice.
How do I handle this as him?
You know what I'm saying?
Like, how do I handle this?
Bro, I'm going to be honest, man.
It's tough.
But you got to talk to your friend that's sick and try to find a way, like, bro, you got to.
Like, this is going to.
going to crush your siblings.
It's going to crush him regardless.
Yeah, but if they didn't know, that's, that's, that we're also assuming that him and his siblings are close.
If he's talking to his older brother's best friend, I'm sure they have.
Yeah, they have a somewhat of a relationship.
And maybe that's a great way for the two of them to game plan how he can help tell the rest of the family.
Like he's, his older brother's best friend, let me try to help you tell your older brother.
That's my best friend I can help.
Tell him, man.
I'm not saying you don't, but you have to.
He can't go and snitch.
That's not his place to.
Yeah, he shouldn't snitch.
All right, well, let me put this out here.
If any of you niggas know that any of my siblings are sick and they dying in two months,
y'all better fucking tell me.
Straight up.
I don't, nah, I'm not playing that.
You, no, they didn't want you to.
Fuck that.
Tell me.
I want to know if one of my siblings is dying.
Like, nah.
Of course you want to know, but that's what we say that you're being selfish because you're making it about you.
It ain't about you.
It's about what your siblings.
No, I'm not making it about me.
No, I'm not.
You are, though.
You are.
No, I'm not, it's not about me.
I'm just saying, like, I love my sibling enough that if these are my siblings' last days,
I want to know so that we can make he or she as comfortable, have as much fun, do as, like, spend as much time.
Like, I want to know.
Like, don't, don't play that, yo, they didn't want you to know game with me.
No, no, no, no, no.
If you know that, tell me.
I'm not going to be mad at my sibling from not want to tell me,
If you're my friend and you know that,
yo, tell me, because like I said,
I want to be able to make sure that me and my siblings spend as much,
however little time they have left,
spend as much of it together as we possibly can.
It's not making it about me.
It's not making it about me.
That's my brother or my sister.
Like, they're dying.
I want to make sure that I'm there.
Like, I'm present.
I'm spending as much time with them as possible.
Yeah, but if they wanted you to be there,
they would make that happen.
If they wanted you to be there,
they would make that happen.
I can't force it.
Nah, me and my friends are we squaring up if you knew that and you didn't tell me.
We got to catch a fade.
I'm like, Roy, let's step outside for a minute.
That's fine.
We got to fight.
Still love you.
We still going to be cool after, but we got to swear.
There's no way you let my sibling die and you knew and didn't tell me.
That doesn't even sound.
Does that even sound right?
That don't even sound right.
Yo, I knew your sibling was dying, but, yo, they didn't want me to tell you, so I ain't tell you.
Still not your place.
that should but doesn't
doesn't something sound off with that though
no I just think he's
scared to tell his family
and hurt his family so went to the closest person
even if I knew that you and your
even if I knew you and your sister was beefing
to me I'm talking about heavy beefing
y'all y'all don't fuck with each other
well the beefing is when I think that you should tell
that's when I think that you should tell
but I mean
but when it's all love
you shouldn't tell me
I'm not saying that I would feel weird if I was told that
because I wouldn't even know how to approach the person
that didn't want me to know that they had cancer
yeah
Yeah.
Because then it's like what?
I'm going to go to my little brother like,
yo, why the fuck you ain't tell me your cancer?
And when you,
and what now is like,
if you don't even say it
and then when you're hanging with them,
the only thing you're thinking about is that.
Well, let's, okay, so
you have siblings.
Rory doesn't.
If you were to have a sibling,
it's not even like,
yo, why the fuck you ain't tell me you had cancer?
It's like an immediate break.
That's an immediate breakdown.
There is no, oh,
you will not be able to pretend
that you don't.
know that information. Unless you're like extremely emotionally like balance, you will not be able
to pretend that you don't know that information. Your whole world will change once you know
that information, which is the point of the person not wanting them to know. So I mean, I had a relative
die. I had a relative pass away and she was sick. She had a disease and I still don't understand
why she didn't want me to know that though. Because some people just don't want people to see them
in that. But me? Like me
or her was like this. Again, you're
making this about you. Yeah. No, but I'm saying,
why wouldn't you, like, I just don't understand in my mind
it's like, so everybody
else knew except me? Oh,
I didn't know that she told everybody else to say. Yeah.
Maybe it's because you guys were so close. You didn't
want to hinder what you had. I wouldn't know
how to tell people closest to me that I have cancer.
I wouldn't know how to do. I don't know what it's like to get that
news and realize that life is going to move
on without you.
If you really love someone and care for them, maybe you don't
want to fuck up
the rest of their few months.
Like, it'll just be cut.
I'll die and then they can move on with their life.
Either way, I'm going to be fucked up.
Yeah, but it's different when you got to drag out three months of visiting me in the hospital.
Yeah, but that's not, that's time that I'm going to remember those memories like forever.
Like, I'm going to hold on to those last days.
But not giving me an opportunity to have those last days with you.
To me, that's worse.
It's their last days, not yours.
No, those last days with you, I'm saying.
Yeah, it's still theirs, though.
Yeah, but it's their time.
Yeah, but it's our time to, like, we spend time together, though, in those last days.
Like, that's what you're supposed to be there for family if they're on their deathbed.
Okay, maybe she ain't want you there.
I mean, that came out rough.
And we was, as close as we were, that doesn't make sense to me.
That does not make sense to me.
I'm sorry.
Well, everybody has their own reasons, reasons for things more.
You also expect that people who are dying to be making logical sense.
No, that's, you.
Or are they making the most logical sense?
Yeah.
And we're the ones not making less sense.
They're probably coming from a place of emotion.
I'm assuming that's a very emotional time.
God, thank God, I've never been in that position.
But I'm assuming it's a very emotional time.
You're not thinking straight.
Also, you have a million 18 people in your life.
I don't even know what friend I would call first if I had cancer.
I wouldn't even know how to, like, it's too much.
That's a lot on your plate.
And to try to be, have to comfort everybody and make sure that everybody is okay with you leaving
and everybody wants to spend time with you.
Nah, I would probably just, like, shut down and just be like,
I really don't want to see nobody.
I don't want to, like.
Yeah, where's Loyon at so I can get my affairs in order?
And there, I'll figure it up.
Right, like.
Because I know my mom's nagging ass.
It would be like, all right, well, you need to sign this.
You need to do this.
When you die, someone's going to have to.
But that's, but you talk about nagging, that's important.
No, of course it is.
That's why I'd rather just deal with that with Loyon and let my family chill.
Have that in order before they even know.
I don't have siblings,
but I can tell the story
because it does have a good ending.
My line brother
who was the president of my line.
He was one of those that like
always wanted us to always be together
and do like dinner outings and shit
and you know,
sometimes that person can get annoying.
Like guys,
we're all going to get together
and do dinner and like hang out?
Yeah.
And he was extra annoying
in our group chat for like a week.
And you know like shady but good friendship.
Sometimes you hit somebody inside like, yo,
why are he always trying to get us together, man?
Like, I got shit to do.
Why being so gay lately?
Yes, exactly.
I didn't want to put it that way.
It's because I'm dying.
So he's like, yo, can you guys all come to the house?
Like, I want to do like a whole line dinner.
Like, we don't hang out enough.
And we're like, all right, man.
So we all went together in one car.
And this was the time when I smoked.
Hotbox the car and was like, yo,
Wise Phil always doing this shit, man.
Like, always down on neck and not fucking hanging out.
someone's got shit to do.
And then we started joking like,
what if Phil got like cancer or some shit?
And we just start dying laughing,
walk into his fucking house or red-eyed and shit
to a movie scene of his whole family sitting on the couch.
Phil has cancer.
We was like,
wait,
that's how it was like,
what?
See,
I would be laughing.
If I'm hot and I walk into that?
We made eye contact with each other like.
Oh, but now y'all,
but shall make a fun of the girl that ass, yo,
no, no, no, no, no, no.
It's different.
Phil is alive.
He beat cancer.
That's why I can tell this story.
Oh, no, Phil smoked cancer, beat the shit out of it.
He works at Google.
He's doing great.
That's why he would love to hear this story.
You could understand how I'm letting y'all know I'm laughing.
If I'm high and I walk into a house.
No, no, not just that.
A first generation Haitian household.
First generation of Haitian.
Oh, no.
I'm laughing.
I'm going to be outside.
How did they say it, right?
I'm going to go outside.
I'm going to chill outside.
I can't speak friends.
Do the accent.
Because I'm going to be dying laughing.
Like, yo, cut it out, man, with this bullshit.
Like, what are you talking about?
And his mother, who I love is dramatic when cancer isn't involved.
Oh, yeah.
Ran and hugged me.
I was like, I'm high.
I'm high.
That's a lot.
That's just a lot.
That's just a lot.
That's what I'm saying?
I'm laughing.
I just, because now it's just like, yo, is this even real?
I hit the blunt and I walked into this.
It's like, what was in that blunt, fan?
Like, seriously, what y'all do it to me right now?
You met his sister, Julian, at the Larry June show.
Oh, see.
Yeah.
Oh.
That was hanging with us.
You remember?
Yeah.
He does actually.
That was a good show.
Larry?
Yeah, it's a great show.
Alchemist, rap.
Alchemist came out.
But yeah, sometimes when your friends want you to like all get together, it could be because
they have cancer and you shouldn't clown them in the car on the way there and jokingly say,
you know, why is he acting like he got cancer?
Yeah.
But see, that's how.
And then he has cancer.
I feel that way.
Dude to be getting cancer.
I feel that way about, um, about just like death in general period.
I think people who take their friends and family for granted,
I look at them like, oh, wow, you were blessed not to have, like, went to enough funerals.
I've been to enough funerals that, like, if my friends are really, really trying to hang with me,
like, I'm going to make it work.
I'm going to make it shake.
I don't give a fuck about work.
I don't give a fuck about none of that shit because at the end of the day, like, I've buried enough people to know that time is like,
you don't have, you never have enough time.
And people die like that, like literally in the blink of eye.
So people who are like, oh, I got shit to do.
My niggas want to hang with me.
Like, that's a blessing.
that should not be taken for granted at all.
I'm funeral poppy.
If I were to be like a video game character
and my 99 stat would be Paul Bear.
I'm nice at that.
Like if you need to hire me,
I know the steps.
I know everything.
Death, dark shit.
Yeah, because I'm killing these people.
What the fuck I love this?
No, I don't enjoy it.
Might be.
I can do the shoulder technique
if you need me to do that.
What's the shoulder technique?
For the Paul Bear.
I could carry a casket out on my shoulder.
I've done that.
You on the front or like you in the middle?
It depends the height of everyone else
I haven't done one yet
It's fun to carry a death
You sound like you're upset about that
No I mean I think
Well the only I was too young
For my grandfather
I'm trying
I mean
That's the only person you know that
No I've had kids
Friends get shot kid
I lost some friends
They wanted me to be a pallbearer
For my brothers you know
I couldn't do it though
I haven't done that
You shouldn't have to
You were young
You were very young
That was not I was like that was
22
I was 15 for my cousins
And they were like, be a Paul Bearer.
And also, you guys know now I can't read out loud.
At 15, I had to read like a passage out the Bible at my cousin's funeral.
And then be the Paul Bear at 15.
No, that's crazy.
I was like, what the, what?
I did a poem for my little cousin's funeral.
I had to be around 11 and he had to be around 7.
Oh, no.
Yeah.
I couldn't do that.
Yeah.
I don't know.
Not for a young sibling, like a young relative like that.
Nah, I can't do that.
Yeah, one of, so this like would have been a sketch if it wasn't like sort of sad in the moment.
One of my uncles that passed while we were doing this pot, I know it's been a bunch of them.
I was the Paul Bear and like, he was a track coach at a high school that he taught in Brooklyn.
And I didn't know any of like the kids that were on his team that were also the Paul Bears.
So we were like in the basement of the church right before the service ended.
like they gave us our cue to go downstairs.
So we're just like, you know, it's five guys that are best friends their whole life.
And then it's just me.
And I'm like, so where are you guys from?
They were probably mad tall.
So like, how'd you know my uncle?
They were like tall, dark and handsome?
No, they were, they were, ran track in high school like 20 years ago.
They were older.
Oh.
Where I guess were like his team, I guess they like went to the state championship.
Whatever, they stayed close.
They wore their leadenments?
No, they should have, though.
I felt I was better dressed than the rest of them.
But, you know, just sitting in a church basement.
And you're the only person out of the group that doesn't know each other.
And they're all, like, reminiscent.
And I'm like, yeah.
He married my mom's sister.
Why did you throw, like, why you do shade on, like, their funeral fit?
Like.
Because it was trash.
There you have it.
I had nothing else to do.
Yeah, sometimes it's just that simple, DeMaris.
Fitz was trash.
Before he was looking him up and down, like, ugh.
You wore that.
You guys go in the front
to scuff those bum-ass shoes.
That's crazy.
Put me in the back so I could see where.
Look what he'd think about.
What am I?
What are you supposed to do at funerals?
Cry and eat.
Laugh.
Talk about people.
Yeah.
Oh, don't let when they sing his eyes on the spiral.
Your voice crack.
And she can't sing?
Oh, my God.
Do you guys want to be buried or cremated?
Creamated.
I'm leaning towards cremation.
Yeah.
I'm not about to be a rotten bones.
I'm good.
Well, being buried isn't,
it's not to be like the pussy environmentally conscious side of things,
but it just,
it doesn't make,
it's just,
it doesn't make sense environmentally.
Or it makes the most sense?
It doesn't.
We're put here to decompose into the earth.
But like,
it's,
it actually makes the most environmentally sense on earth.
The fertilizer.
Cremation is decompose.
What were we supposed to?
Cremation, literally you can burn someone and scatter their ashes all over.
Yeah.
I think that's cool to place if you want to be placed in certain areas, but also you're dead.
Yeah, but you have a choice.
Throw me in the Indian Ocean and like, then what?
Yeah, that's better off than...
You think you're going to be there?
Where? What do you mean?
In the Indian Ocean.
I don't want to go.
No, but you still have your, you still have the...
You should still care about the dignity of your body.
Like, yeah, I care about my body.
My body is a part of me.
That's what I don't know about...
I agree.
Burning my flesh up like that.
I know this is just a shell, but just like burning this.
And then it's like, this is going to break down anyway and disappear.
But yeah, so you'd want to.
Buried?
I think burying because you can, you have something that relatives and friends can always go to.
It can also like.
I mean, I have my dogs ashes and my grandmas.
Right next to each other?
No.
No.
but my grandmothers are in my mother's car.
So it's kind of like a protection when I drive.
Your mother has ashes in the car?
Yeah, it's like sitting there.
They're in the glove compartment, like in a nice velvet bag.
I'm talking about just having to earn like in the whip.
No, it's not the urn.
It's in a velvet.
Just going back and forth like an easy pass on the dashboard.
It's like jumbo cup holder extent.
Yeah, like where you got the urs sitting at?
It's in a velvet bag.
Like a Dutch rapper
Just going side to side
So y'all put grandma on a
Crown Royal like bag
Not a crown royal bag
Some people do do that
In Houston by the way
Grandma cursing all of y'all diggers out
No shit
Put grandma in the liberal man
On the back balcony so we
I don't know
To Julian's point
A casket is not a natural way
If you just bury an actual body
That is a natural way
I'm fine with being cremated
I don't know if I even want
A gravesite
I was joking about throwing shit
in my casket.
I don't even know if I want a gravesite.
Now put me in a mausoleum.
That's what it's called.
The ones with the wall.
Yeah.
With the rest of your family.
Like, oh, y'all can have a Rockefeller mausoleum.
That'll be so fire.
The Rockalium.
Nobody's having a Rockefeller.
The Rockalium mall.
If you guys have one, do you have a plus one?
Rory.
Look at Roy.
Run from his family.
Nobody has a Rockefeller mausoleum, right?
That'd be so fire.
You said put mine adjacent to J's.
Like you want to be like touching it.
You never heard me say that ever in my life.
You said give me the left corner.
I never said that.
All right.
I said I would want to be.
You would be top bunk.
Put me in that.
Put me there.
Do you guys remember when I went up to Albany for my, the uncle I was just talking about its funeral?
Yeah.
So a lot of my mom's family is buried up there.
Even my cousin I was talking about that didn't even grow up there is buried there.
Her side of the family for some fucking reason.
They started upstate and everyone just like ships the bodies to this one grave site.
Well, so that everybody can be together.
Yes. And my mom on some morbid shit with her sister was like figuring out where they were going to go. I looked at my mom as that I'm not being buried here. I've only been to this town for funerals. I don't, this is not where I'm being buried. Yeah, I can feel it's like what the fuck? Yeah. Half the people buried from our family have no relation to this area. Y'all just got a good deal 50 years ago. Yeah. On a plot.
See, that's the other thing that maybe muddies it for me
the tradition of the casket.
Your family's in Albany, I can sell it to y'all.
We're good.
I can flip it.
We're good.
We got some space where you like designate it.
Buried on the lower east side.
He's not going to let them bury him in Albany.
I don't really want to be buried.
I want to take a valuable space for the next generation.
It's such a money grab too.
I mean, casket are insanely expensive.
It's just such a gross industry.
And you're praying on the vulnerability
and emotions of obviously the most vulnerable people
they lost a loved one.
She said, I just never, being in a funeral home never felt right to me.
It's the way in which you look at like, I don't know.
I mean, it's the opposite of a wedding venue, but it's like they turn these things out.
This isn't new to them.
This is just another, this is your two hour window.
Next one's coming in.
Like it's just, it's so commodified.
But it has to be done though.
Like I get what you're saying and like, yes, people are benefiting from somebody else's
pain, but it has to be done.
You're not going to go dress up no dead body.
But it can be done.
It can be done better.
and then cremation's a cheaper alternative as well.
Yeah, but you still have to get the body ready for the future.
A lot of people have...
Fucking open casket.
Burn my shit.
Yeah, I don't want to open casket either.
Nobody's ever...
Get a QR code.
There's my Instagram.
You know what I look like.
I'm with Jillian on that.
I've been vocal about the same strategy he's talking about.
Yeah, I'm good.
I don't even spend my money on a casket.
My grandfather passed when he was 96.
I was 11 when he passed.
And I saw they did the open casket, the embalm,
and he was all dressed up.
That still scars me.
He looked great, but it's still fucking weird.
I didn't need that moment.
Like, it was weird to see him like that.
And I still stick by my conspiracy theory that these really old graveyards are going to start digging up and selling to put fucking apartment building.
There's no way that they're allowing this amount of land in New York City and New Jersey to be spent on graves from the 1800s.
A thousand percent.
Yeah, it was when we used to go to your house to record that cemetery that you get off the highway, it was like traffic one day.
That tiny ass one.
It's weird.
It was a bunch of traffic.
So it's like you kind of at a standstill.
I'm looking out the window at the grave.
And the tombstone said like 18 something to 1906.
I'm like, yo, that's been there since 1906.
And I guarantee nobody from that person's family.
It's still alive.
That one you're talking about is on one in nine.
This is endoxone because it is away from my house.
There's a storage unit on one in nine,
which is one of the biggest trucking.
areas in the tri-state area.
They have a tiny pocket next to a storage unit of graves from the 1800s.
It's crazy.
And I'm with like the historical society protecting stuff.
I do think that is important.
I don't want to just commercialize everything, but that's not going to last very long.
Bro, the lineages, the families of those people, if they are alive, probably don't live there.
Like those are, those things are so far removed, I guarantee you at some point they're going to try to level that land and be like, let's put a little condo here.
And fuck the moral high ground.
We're in Manhattan right now
standing on a gravesite.
Yeah, this whole country is against it.
That is true.
This was a Native American grave site,
lower Manhattan,
that we're standing on right now.
We didn't give a fuck.
And I don't think they're going to eventually
give a fuck about our ancestors.
And I feel them.
I don't go to any of my family's graves.
That's just not my thing.
We went to a church when I went to Holland years ago.
It was in Amsterdam.
it was a church.
The entire floor was made of like tombstones, like gravesites.
Oh, that could be.
The entire floor.
Like, see you walk, you just see like the names that they were born, they died.
And I'm just like, the floor, crazy.
I mean, it was a beautiful church, beautiful.
But it was just like walking on that just felt a little, a little creepy.
I was like, I don't know how they came up with this idea.
Okay.
Who am I to fuck up tradition?
What's it?
It's a fire floor.
I think that's it.
Is that in Amsterdam?
The entire floor of this church is...
That looks like where they would do the vultures to listening party.
It looks like it would be there.
Yeah, that's it.
What's the name of that church?
Jesus, well, let me zoom out.
Let's see.
You've been to Holland?
I never knew that.
Yeah.
Well, it's Oudkirk.
That sounds like it could be in Amsterdam.
Yeah.
So instead of fucking a hooker, you went there.
Yes, I was in high school.
I wasn't thinking about fucking hookers.
That's beautiful.
No, the church was, it was a beautiful church.
But it was just like, once they told us that, I'm just looking down, like, I'm scared to step anywhere.
Like, in my country, this is disrespectful.
Stuff like this with architecture and meaning, even if it does have a bad history, I think is important to maintain and keep.
I just don't know graveyards of that.
Yeah.
Like walking through England, even though it's a, all-
awful history. It was really cool to look at buildings that have been there since the 1600s,
like that they maintain. I think that is important for life. But a bunch of graveyards for a bunch of
people that are only important to one person on earth. Yeah. Level it and do something positive with it.
Well, they have that thing now. Make it a park. I'm not saying. I like that too. I've seen that.
Right. But even with that, what do they do with the body? No, you're underneath like the root of the tree.
Oh, yeah, you could do it two ways.
It's like your body basically, it decomposes eventually.
Yeah.
But you're in the dirt, just not in the casket.
You're not, you know.
Or they could take your ashes and do that too.
If Julian chose that route 80 years from now when he passes away and he becomes a tree
and then they cut the tree down and they make it paper and then they print Eminem lyrics on it.
That's remembering Julian.
That's how.
you'll be remembered.
M&M lyrics.
That would make me
as the paper
that they press M&M lyrics on.
That would be a sick
twist of car.
Like,
like on this day in-
coffee hot,
coffee hot in a museum
was printed
on the paper of Julianne.
That's almost as
just, you know,
full circle
is dame selling
rock over the knox.
Stuck you stuck the same shit,
right?
All comes full circle.
That would piss me.
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