New Rory & MAL - Episode 251 | Prose & Consequences

Episode Date: March 15, 2024

We’re stressed out. Rory and Demaris were on the Discord Wednesday night holding a Def Poetry Slam. Mal takes this as an opportunity to bring up Julian’s new photography instagram account (14:04). This amount of laughing from this segment caused Mal to walk off set to gather himself. Once the funnies settle we get to the “beef”. Recently Consequence took shots at the guys on another podcast. Rory & Mal use this time to clear the air (with receipts) (28:50). Speaking of receipts, Yes Julz was fired from YZY for allegedly failing to abide by an NDA. We provide how mismanaged this situation has been and the odd type of work environment Ye must create (49:29). This reminded Rory and Julian of being put in the middle of label, manager, and artist drama. In corny news, Gilbert Arenas & Swaggy P felt compelled to reminisce on Draya for no apparent reason(1:08:39). It’s time for voicemails (1:20:46). We answer a riddle called all the way from Australia. For the second voicemail, listening once wasn’t enough. We replay it, take notes, and comment throughout for this wild scenario. This phone call starts a really fun conversation to take us into the weekend. Tune in as the guys discuss all of this + more! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoicesSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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you're doing magician tricks. I'm doing everything. You talked about you were going to do, you were going to bring a keyboard and an acoustic guitar. Yep. I'm like a one-man band. You were going to read some poetry.

I'm excited. Yeah. Howard Theater, March 23rd. Tickets available now, new Rory Mall.com. See you there. We definitely will see you there. No metal detectors.

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yeah yeah one took a plane but the stains in the game and what's your name I'm consequent to type burn like flames well why's that American dream they got the ghetto kid in the fiend don't stress that because it's not in your bloodstream your whole vans was and the Q-tip

said yo what's your name Rory hates consequences Rory hates that man you can come in whatever you want oh Oh no, I wasn't, no. We could just keep, we could just keep us laughing. No.

I was trying to set a fun, happy mood. Slow, joke. Unhappy mood. Jokey silly mood. At R and M. What's the N stand for? R and M. Yeah.

R and M, what's the N for? Is that like the NWACP? R and M. Same as what I thought the NACP was. Yeah. Every end in an acronym stands for that word in Rory's I just don't say it out loud. But you think it.

You think it with the hardy. You think it with the hearty are. Do the voices in your head have the same, like? The voices in your head are racist? Yeah, but like, I'm a social justice warrior, so I always combat them. You suppress. Like that's, that's, you suppress. That's how dedicated to the cause I am.

I battle with myself. Yeah, but you suppress your, like, racist thoughts. Yeah, I feel like everyone does that. You know how we have, like, don't we have like. Everyone suppress their racist thoughts? No. Some people let them out. No, I mean, no, I mean, people that aren't outwardly racist.

Oh, yeah. Well, yeah. Yeah, I'm sorry. That sounded crazy. Yeah, yeah. Some people know. Some people let it out. Some people let it out with a bullhorn.

I feel like every single human being has thoughts in their head that sound racist, but they know they're racist. So they ignore them and move on. Of course. That's why I told you the other day. I was like, yo, I know you say the N-word when you rap in certain lyrics when you buy yourself. Well, we've been to do that. We're now going into the subconscious of everything. Yeah, I don't understand that.

But I'm just saying, like, it's so, I think that it's okay. to just like have those thoughts as long as you don't push those thoughts and opinions on to people. But like when I read things, it's not like there's an actual voice reading it back in my head. It's a subconscious thing. Because one time someone did tweet me back and like, yo, so when you read like, do you edit the N word? And I was like, they caught me. Yeah. Bleep the.

It's not like a voice though. So does it count? And I've read the hard ER before. It wasn't my words. I was just reading. Yeah, you were just reading. It was there. Yeah.

Huckleberry. fan. Nigger Jim. I don't even like you saying that word. I can. Yeah, but I know you can, but I just don't, it's just something about you.

That's fair. There's just like, the hardy are is just a little, yeah, just Jewish is like, I don't know. But I think we all do have those thoughts in the head. Like I love,

but I love when people are honest with having like inappropriate thoughts about like different cultures. You're a line piece of shit if you don't. Yeah. I really, the people are like, I don't even see.

It's societally, impossible not to have racist thoughts. Like when I'm in a car and somebody like on the road does some dumb shit, I automatically think a certain culture is driving that car. What culture is that? Yeah. I don't know if I want to say it. I don't know if I want to say it.

Yeah. But we all know what I'm thinking, right? Why she's squinting. There's no son. See? See? See what I'm saying? What?

You see? He got to be the one. Well, sometimes when it's overcast, you squint too. We can just mute his mic and the entire part. But I'm just saying, like, moments like that, I think that we all have. I had those moments where, like, guarantee I know who's driving that car. I think what makes you a good person is channeling your awful thoughts, realizing that they're bad thoughts, and you should not one say them or act that way.

Yes, exactly what I do. Because I have, like, murderous thoughts often. But I think what makes me not a danger to society is that I don't act on them. You haven't acted out of murder yet. Well, I'm not saying, like, a reactive defensive murder type thing. I'm saying, like, I've plotted a few murders in my head that I'm like, hmm, I watch enough, you know, law and order, I can maybe get away with this. Oh, yeah. And I've never acted on it. Oh, I plotted a few murders.

Well, I remember when we were at Rory's house, he discussed, we did, though, if you had 24 hours to live, what would you do? And Rory just detailed a murderous spree. Yeah. So we know it's in there. It's in there. But it's not in any of you guys? Of course. What? To kill someone? I'm good on that, honestly. Just the thought, like, just thoughts. Well, you got to start with a fight first. You can't go from no fight. Probably, yeah. I'd throw some punch. I think most of like the serial killers are people that do those mass shootings probably have never been in a fight. Serial killers, yes. They go straight to murder. No, serial killers, yes.

But they've killed before. Like, that's why I loved the Darmadoc. And they were showing them as a kid just like obsessed with dead things. Squirrels necks. Yeah. So you know, like that's why I said with the kids that came in was just popping their chicken heads off of the chickens in the in the lounge. I said, you got to watch those kids. Like that's how it starts.

Like it starts there. And his dad. was the one that was teaching them that stuff too and then was like really shocked at the end of that series. Like how did I not see this coming? You were seeking out roadkill with him. They bonded over dissecting roadkill. Is there not some responsibility

put on the parent at that point? Like if we find out in the trial that you were teaching your child how to behead roadkill, like I feel like... And then he turns into serial kill? At least go on probation. Like we need to monitor what you're doing.

The parent probably needs to spend some time in jail too. I think so. Yeah. I'm with that. I'm definitely with that. But either way, I'm not going to act on the thoughts that I have, which is why I'm an amazing person. That's just so funny. So much better than that.

Give yourself a compliment. It's like, it's what you're supposed to do. But when you do it, it just comes off so weird. Not acting on my racist, murderous thoughts just makes me a much better person than everyone else that's in this room. How was your discord last night? It was a lot of fun. It's always fun to talk with the listeners. That's how we got on this Sean King thing, because obviously that was a top.

topic, but it was cool. We did, um, we also did like a poetry. People read, people read their poetry. Um, people, people played some of their music. Like it was, nah, see, don't let, don't laugh because you had to be there. No, I didn't. Poetry slam? You were in a Discord chat snapping. Yeah, of course I was. That's sick. That's crazy. That's insane. There were, one gentleman came up and, like, said he was a poet, and I asked him to read his poetry, and that just sparked the whole room. It's in all of the, everyone just started going through their notes. All of the writers ran to the front line. Yeah. See, y'all, y'all, I hate it. How am I hating? Because you were uptown, you never went to the

New Yuriken. You're not culture like me. Yeah, you're right. I forgot about that part of it. Yeah, I'm not, I'm not culture like. You weren't in the New Yerreca. You were in the district. You were in Village Underground on Saturday. You was in a Discord chat, listening to poetry? Yeah, and people's music. Everyone there enjoyed it. Mm-hmm. Okay. That's what so. You wouldn't listen to someone's poetry? On Discord, no. I don't think I would be listening to somebody. What does they added a beat to it? No, I don't want to listen to somebody reading their poems on Discord. Damaris read one.

Sure did. Damaris smoked everybody. That was kind of unfair. Damaris was like the person that goes to karaoke. Can I hit a poem you read? Nah. Sing? Why we can't hear a poem?

Can we make up what we think Demaris's poem wouldn't be? I wouldn't, I wouldn't hear it. And that's why I won't read it. Why? No. No, but I honestly want to hear your. No, it was fire, though. No, that.

It was fire. It was. I just felt like she shit. It was. It was, no, wasn't. Nobody that ever answered that fast was being truthful. I had heard the poem before that. That was like my third time hearing that poem.

So I was well versed. I actually think I wrapped along to some of the lyrics. Oh, okay. You punched it up for her? Nah, come on. So y'all sound on like battle wrappers? I did not QM any of that. That was all her pen.

You was finishing her bars? He would come up on the last, like. Yeah. You said, Damme, you threw a bridge on this? You were coming on the last stanza? I was pretty much wrecks behind Mook the entire time. I was Kashon yelling Damaris to get him.

Can you, can, do you have any, like, any of the lines that stood out to you? No, I mean, I let Demaris, like, Okay, what was it about? You know, you know, you know, who it was about. Who was it about? I don't know who it was, who was it about.

What was it about? What was the, what was the, what was the poem? It was about love. That's what it was about. And a specific gentleman that we've discussed on this spot. I just thought it was unfair that she came in as, like,

the deaf poetry slam expert to these guys that were just novices. She walked in like the person that could sing at karaoke. Like, why are you even here? But somebody's saying my poem was about love is like, that's so like, isn't every poem about love? Like my pen has ink in it. Yeah, I would hope so.

Doesn't every poem, isn't every poem pretty much about love? Not really? No? Well, it depends. I guess your definition of love. I mean, everything is love. Well, yeah, that, I don't know if everything is love, but yeah. Everything should be loved.

But no, poems are not always about love. What's a poem that you can remember that wasn't about love? A rose that grew from the concrete by Tupac. I can't quote one line. I just don't think it's about love. I think it's about a rose that grew from Baltimore. I'm almost sure that if it's a poem about a rose growing from concrete, there's love is somewhere in there.

Pull it up. I'm just going to take a guess. If you told him about a rose growing from concrete, which is symbolic to making it out of a tough environment, something beautiful still being able to flourish. Okay. So then, yeah, everything is about love at that point. That would have love is somewhere in there.

Broi, do you want to read it? I don't have to see your comprehension. There's no N-words, right? No. Nature's right there, so that's an N-word. Did you hear about the rose that grew from a crack in the concrete? Providing nature's law. Providing is sick.

I can't. Proving fucking you up, man. Why are you reading it like it's the fucking Martel ad? Proving, proving, proving him up. He said, did you hear about the rose that grew up? Providing nature's law. Nigga, that says proving. Proving nature's love.

See, that's why you don't know poems is about love. You can't even read it. See, just right there, we cracked the code. This is why you don't know every poem has something to do with love because you just placed providing when the author gave you proving. Stuff, a lot of peace.

A lot of people. I'm just saying, proving, you said providing. What happened to poetic justice? He's even in the movie. Oh, my God. Providing nature's law. All right. Start from the top.

Proving nature's law of Hennessy that always comes with your enemies. Learn to walk without having feet. Funny, it seems. But by keeping its dreams, it learned to breathe fresh air. Long live. That was my Tupac.

Long live. The rose that grew from the concrete when no one else ever cared, including Shug Night. See? When no one else ever cared. This love is somewhere in. There's a love.

That's a love adjacent. No, this is about someone that got absolutely no love and still learned how to grow. But that's what I'm saying. It's about love. It's about needing love. It's about wanting love.

No, it's about no love existing at all. And I still came from the concrete. Wanting love. It's crazy how things went from the concrete to the mud. Yeah. Like what? They just melt down the concrete and all the kids are from the mud. Yeah.

Well, I'm glad that Damaris got her deaf poetry shit off last night. It was fun. You guys should have came on. I think you've written a poem before. I mean, when I was young in school, probably. At what point? Did you realize like, oh, this is kind of gay? I'm not doing this.

Was it an insecurity thing? Did you drop poetry for choir? No, I just, I don't know. Poetry just wasn't something that I was really into. But then you wrote reps. Oh, yeah. I mean, it's writing. Yeah, it's writing, but I did, I never really was like, I'm going to write a poem.

Did it when I was young, wrote a couple in grade school and, but. You still got your composition book? You want to, like, sell it? I wish. Like what Drake did? I wish I did. Oh. I wish I had still had some of my composition books from gray school.

I think that'd be a good, like, therapy exercise for you. I think you should start on poetry now and then come on the podcast and read the poetry. You ever write? Not even, like, in a poetic way. Just write your thoughts? Read. Not really. They don't write anything down.

No? All up here. Yeah, that's how you avoid that ritual. It can't write anything else. I've seen, I've seen casino. I see what took it that. I see what took everything down. It's a paper trail.

Um, no, I don't write. I probably should though. Like write random thoughts out and like go back to them and read them. I probably should. Yeah. That seems therapeutic. Dementia is always a fear of mine. Dementia?

Yeah, there's something about living a long, fulfilling life and then, you know, coming towards the end and realizing you don't remember any of it. Hmm. So I don't know. I just think it eases me to just write things down occasionally. Speaking of writing, you're starting this new Instagram page. page. Yeah. We did some gay writing, some gay poetry.

Yeah, it's pretty gay in there. Yeah, for you to laugh at people reciting their poetry on Discord last night, and I post that in the same day is a little contradicting. Sure. I also think it's funny that you think writing things down would cure your dementia. It doesn't cure, asshole. It helps prevent it. And it also, as a reminder, because you can go back and read it,

you can still read when you have dementia. I've had two grandparents that have dementia. I could show them a sentence within five minutes. They would have forgot what they were. This is poetic like. This reads like poem. This is off of Julian's new creative Instagram account. Invisible Lens.

That's the name of the poem? Well, yeah, it should be. He started the poem with this photo makes me smile. Oh, here we go. A clash of me. A clash of universes. Oh, I make you smile. A clash of universes was the gayest shit.

You know I'm on your side, but that was fucking crazy. A clash of universe. That thing is. That was clashed of universes. It was in the same room. Clash of universes. Roy, you know why that guy wrote that. Because these are two worlds of my life now in one room.

First of all, don't laugh at me saying providing and then get sensitive. You can't read. That's different. I'm laughing at your dissimbing. Yo, I get pussy too. This is what men do.

This is what men do. Now, do I get bitches. This photo and insults. This photo makes me smile. A clash of universe. This is taken at home in Hollywood Hills where we were shooting

our Mike Commerce beautiful series. All-camera boss, a boss was performing under high-powered studio lights, leaving Armani and Brittany, seen left. Robbie and Rory, seen right. Those are the different universes. Subject to my flash. We were subject to the fucking flash.

Those are your universe. Subjected to a flash on a fucking camera. Those are universes. And reflecting lights off the ceiling. Refracting. You can't read. You can't read. Keep reading. You're going to keep proving my point. You're like the shitty version of the first AI.

that fun funges. Going from Flash, you would think would say reflection. Yo, chat GBT definitely wrote that, man. Get the fuck out of it.

I'm a very good writer. I'll talk about shit. Now this. Now niggas his motherfucking. I mean, this game. I came in this game. He came in the game.

But that's just the top. I can't stand up for you. I can't. He was who you were. I came in this game. You was who you was for you got here? Yo. Yo, Julian, don't ever scream out I came in this game.

He's like Che Guevara with bling on. He's complex. Yo, you can't insult niggas, man. Niggas get so sensitive. Yo, Julia, took it so I came in this game as a writer. I did. Yo, stand on business. Anybody, look, anybody can take a photo.

Not many people have the penmanship that I do, and I'll stand on that. Talk your fucking talk, Jules. Yo. A clash of the universe is sick. I first encountered Armani White as an artist. I feel like joins the writer that... Don't ever tell me you encountered somebody. I feel like he's the one that just typed in,

I met Armani, then typed in met synonyms on Google. Synonyms. And then found fucking encountered. Synonyms. It's a word. No, cinnamon. I know. That's a word, too.

Synonyms. Plural for cinnamon. Yo. y'all are fucking sick man anyway this is what you started this is damaris's fault this is demaris's fault he wrote that before we had a deaf poetry dream 100% did I didn't know I think demarice no I think you said last week that you write poetry I said it a couple of years ago yeah yeah so I think that's what I'm

saying damaris started this so then Julian was like shit I write too I came in his game a writer now I'm gonna get my shit off on invisible lens there was only one line in that entire thing that actually bothered me Oh, here we go. Clash of universes was my life. I had to pick one. Let me see you. Go ahead, Roy.

On the right, we see Robbie. Truly an audio engineer wizard. He's the grand wizard of audio engineering. You didn't say that. I didn't make it to the end. You said that. Yo. He is.

Yo, Julian, you have fucked you. I went on to say some very nice things about Rob. Rory, like an overlord. Jerry, don't do that. Don't do that. Don't do that. That's not what we laughing at. Why not?

You got to laugh. You got, see, this is, this is why I mean. No, no, no, it's the word wizard. You know mid can't say shit like that. Why not? We can't say wizard. Why not? What potion did he make?

No, I need y'all. Because I went on to provide context. Oh, no, no. Y'all are missing the most important part. With a tight grasp on the mouse, his head is constantly rotating between the artist and the laptop. I saw a few moments of him stacking audio files with the dexterity and quickness of an elite Tetris player. That's bars, bro.

You've never said those words of point of their life. I never want Rory, like an overlord, would often say, you know, you gave Maul an asthma attack. Keep recording. This is fucking hilarious. I think Maul is literally throwing up right now. Just picturing Julian looking at Pro Tools and Robbie going, yo, stack that. And Julian, it's like Tetris.

I can't give someone their flowers. He's very talented. Is this flowers? Yeah. To Robbie. What he does as an engineer is like a kid playing. Tetris? No, you.

That's not flowers. I didn't say that. No, you didn't mention the dexterity and the quickness. Yeah. You're leaving out things. Rory like an overlord would often stand beside Robbie, also with a pair of headphones on,

not seen here. In the headphones are the backtrack of the songs and the live vocals, which in this case would be coming from boss. There you go. I think it's fun to provide more context and just sharing a photo and coming up with a witty caption.

I think that's really cool as well. We're joking about the words that you, you used. Well, I'm going to get gayer. How many did you go through before you're letting him? Wizard. Nah, these are all, this is one take. I don't really, I'll, I'll do, I write best if I just. This is one

take. You definitely proofread this. You definitely, there's no way. Can I? This is a stream of consciousness that just came out. I write best when I just say what I, what comes to mind first, I'll word vomit. And then from there, I'll do the grammatical fixing and all that kind of stuff.

But the, like the essence and most of what I'm saying is just comes in the one straight up, here it is, moment. And then, yeah, then I'll go through and tweak and all good writers try to shorten things and, you know, you flip things around. I had a lot of good teachers growing up. Who's, all right, so genuine in the purest form. Is there other forms of genuine?

Yeah, Maul, we're still rolling. Yeah, Maul's collecting himself off camera. He had to go to the bathroom. What he said? Grand Wizard, Overlord. There's a lot of nuances in here that we need to look into. I don't know if you can use the unworked.

I have plenty more. My bad, I'm sorry. What was the engagement like? What do you mean on these posts? Comments-wise. The solo one of you did pretty well. People were positive. And Julian is doing that creative thing

where he doesn't follow anybody back. Well, it's not, like, it's not supposed to be an engaging account. All right. Yo, man. This is fucking crazy. Julian, man, you are fucking, you are a sick puppy, man. This wouldn't happen if you didn't make fun of the people on Discord for doing poetry. I don't care.

Yeah, but I'm just saying, like, now we found your- group discourse. That's poetry. That's crazy. That's not poetry. That's pros. I'm sorry, what? You know the difference between poetry and pros?

Are you? Do you? Are you the pro? Do you know the difference between poetry? pros and cons? We're going to get to that. I was going to say, damn. We're going to get to that.

Yo, y'all are sick, man. This is a sick group. All right, let's restore some order here. I don't know how we got down that rabbit. My bad, overlord. I have to overload this entire thing. See? Let me lower these transitions.

Well, that's not a great ad to sign up for our Discord. I don't know what is. Patreon.com backslash new Rory Mall. It was a lot of fun. You can read your poetry. You could read some of your captions to Julian maybe. Yeah. I played some new music on there as well.

Yeah. How did they like it? They liked it. Other people played their music too. So it was like a cool creative powwow. How was some of the music though? It was good. Honestly.

No, honestly, one of the guys... Somebody was playing some bullshit? No. No, I would say if somebody was and I would say it to them. No, one of the guys I said to DM me, I thought it was really good. Oh, yeah? He did a good job. Did you have some talent there?

Did you tell him to stack it and then... I didn't tell him. to stack or nudge or I wasn't an audio engineer wizard. Roy said let me come be a fly on the wall in your next session. Yeah.

I could be a wizard of the stack. Stop, man. Stop. It was stacking making you a wizard is crazy. How many times you met, Robbie? That was your first time. Me and Robbie? No, it was not.

Okay. I thought it was. No, we were in the studio at Brits' house together. Oh, so you've seen him on wizardry before. I've seen him full robe. Okay. Robbie Potter. Yeah. Got you. Okay.

He's known around the music industry as Dumbledore. You ain't even know that. You ain't even know that. You know, it's crazy how you made that correlation. Like, I ain't going to lie. That was kind of wild. Oh, little might be the wizard. Little Dumbledore is with it. Yeah. As you know. Little Dump. Got to be. Little Dorm. Door, door. Little dumb. Little dumb. Holy shit. Should we get into these pros and cons? I thought that was a little ironic. Sure, man, because I don't know what the hell is going on in the world.

We talked about this on Discord as well. Did you? Oh, really? Yes. Y'all was on Discord having a time. And because I ran out of time... Can men say that? Can men say having a time?

Yeah. You sure? Not really. Because they already think I'm gay. I don't want to be saying shit that... Well, you're not like Drake telling people telling girls their body is T. So I think you're fine. Who did Drake say that to?

You DM some woman that, right? Your body is... is tea. But Drake is, y'all see what he's, he's leaning into all of the shit that they say he's weird and corny for like, exactly. So he's put himself in the perfect position to say, he can say whatever he is at this point. And it's like, oh, that's just

Drake being Drake. That's what I'm on. I saw some girl in my timeline got posted, somebody reposed some girl in my timeline. She screenshotsed a picture of Drake messaging her, asking if that was her that he had just saw in some spot. Oh, yeah. And she had, he screenshots it. Was that

you that I recognized? It was a, it was a funny bar. Yeah. And then she said, yo, I'm not, I never opened it because she just kind of screenshot the request. She said, I'm not opening it. I'm never opening it. I'm not responding to it. And everybody was like, yeah, I, like, you responded to that DM.

This was a couple days ago. I'm willing to bet that she's responding to that DM. And I'm sure he didn't reply because she did that. Oh, now you can't. You can't. That's so lame. What do you get out of that? Oh, look, guys, Drake DM me, yeah, you're on your Instagram, half naked and you're cute. He DMs everybody that looks like that. And he probably recognized.

you. Yeah. And wanted to fuck you. Yeah. Or he DMs you. Or make a song with her. I don't know. Maybe she has music or poetry. I don't know. Don't do that because Drake tried to do that and then got what's that him and Rick Ross record? He'd DM some girl and she was like, I make beats and he was like L.O.L. And like they actually were good.

Yeah. Not cradle to the grave. Oh, money in the grave. Money in the grave. She's a nice producer though. But I think, I don't want to put this on Drake's jacket. But I'm pretty sure when he DMed her, it was not she hadn't made beats like she didn't put on her Instagram her beats

she was just attractive and DM Drake and then she also was very talented she deemed Drake that she makes beat no Drake DM'd her she was attractive is it Sydney Sydney Christy probably her yeah yeah yeah that looks right I don't think she had any beats on her profile but money can the great beat is crazy

Drake type beat get it yo you want to like that's good that's a I'm not gonna not yeah now I know what that was you ain't got a tomorrow If you found out she made beats, you wouldn't read out. I would start writing. Immediately. Like, what am I paying at?

Now you're a poet. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You want to go on Discord and re poetry? Stop playing with me. I got balls. Something about this rose and some concrete. Yeah, she'd DM me to my, yo, I make beats. I'm like, yo, listen, like, I got, I got a stew down the block.

Definitely a stoo. Definitely a stoo. What, huh? You can't say studio. You got to say stu. You have to do a block out for her, too. I'm going to block the week. That'd be a whole week and blocked out.

No, she's talented. Yeah, she is. I think there was some controversy, though, with that DM, because she may have been in high school when he deemned her. I mean, that's, you know. I don't think he knew that, but. Just to work. Either way, we got.

You got to get the creators while they're young. Yeah, great record. Creators while they're young. That's what, that's what Kanye said about Tiger. Yeah. On breakfast club and no one, no one batted a fucking eye. Oh, that's why. You say, yeah, Taga just trying to get in there while she young.

She's 16. No, everyone's like, yeah, no, you're right. Charlotte. Charlemagne was like, yeah, so what kind of car you draw? I think it just said some crazy shit. The crazy shit. And you're asking him where he driving. This culture is fucking crazy.

So full electric, are we on gas? What are we doing? So you and you and Elon. What y'all over there cooking up? Like y'all ain't going to talk about what he just said about this young girl? Yeah. That's the little CC with the slap in the base. That's her CC on the track is her producer tag.

Oh, she's a legitimate, talented producer. Yeah. I just don't think that's how it started out. That's all I was saying. Yeah. Is that the hotel we stayed at in London? No. I know.

Oh, shit. Oh, shit. I know a staircase. No, it's not. Okay. That's definitely not the hotel. I can promise you that. That was like a haunted hotel that had the staircases that move.

That was like Harry Potter. I was lost every time I tried to get to my room. Yeah, being drunk trying to find your room in that hotel, good luck. That was fun. Anyways, I ran out of time with my therapist yesterday, so I didn't get to ask her if I should reply to what we're about to talk about. So I talked to Discord about it. I do got to say his mascots,

I ain't fucking with them niggas. And the funny thing is just be like, look, like, here's my thing, right? What's your thing? I talked about this on my new album. I'm going to save a little bit of it. Damn, we're the intro? Here's my thing.

Like, with the whole niggas Limee and all that wild shit. You know what I'm saying? It ain't really wild because for me it was like a high school fight. Is that a babe coat? I like his coat. You know, that's what it was.

That's what you like. And what niggas like to use my name. Like, I just, I don't fuck what niggas trying to use my name. You know what I'm saying? Like, I don't fuck with niggas thinking that it's still a reality show. Like, nigger, in real life,

you pussy. That's what it is. Big facts. In real life, you two niggas, my nigga. In real life, you two niggas is pussy. Both y'all. When you get in me, Because the nigger never had me.

Go on to stare at camera one with sunglasses on. It's funny. I think we should have a conversation. I ain't, it's on, nigga, with me. You know what I'm saying? I don't know who he's talking about. I'm trying to figure it out. On site.

Anytime. I don't want to know. I'm trying to figure out as we go, but I thought. They birds. That's why I don't even make no sense. I'll be like, one nigga, one of the one of the one of the one of them be like, yo, you know, don't listen to black because he's trying to hype it up and, you know, we got to stay together. And then his white man.

And he's sitting right next to be like, yeah, consequence. Yeah, consequence got on. No jump, but was talking about how he had me kicked out. I had you kick out of Donda. I had KK security run you out, bro. Kim Kardashian? You got escorted out. I feel like they probably had something to do.

Did niggas yelling, scream and throw you out? Nah, because we spending too much money to be yelling and screaming. And that's what Don C told me. Caw. That nigger's leaving now. You left. And you know who you is. You bitch-ass, nigger.

I thought I was a white man. It's just contradicting. Bitch-ass white man. Wait, so is it on site or is it security? Is it Uchi Wally or is it in Mike? I don't know. Where do we want to go with this? All right, for those that are new to this episode,

I don't know what, a year ago, I told a funny story on this podcast two years ago, maybe, when I was mad at Mall that any time I go out, I end up in his beefs. And I explained a very, very light and funny story about being at the Donda show, talking to consequence. I actually embellished to make him look tough and me look pussy. Because I also didn't want any static with cons. I thought we had a great conversation. I made him look cool and me look like a loser.

Then he went on no jumper and said he got me kicked out, which is a bold face lie. Now I'm here to tell the real story. I was watching the Kanye West Donda show in a booth next to J. Electronica and Dave Chappelle. I'm sorry, I'm dropping. in names, but let's just add facts to this now that consequences using shit like you pussy and all this other stuff. Cons came up to me in a very respectful manner. I'm not saying that as a negative way. It started out as a good conversation. I was a little confused. He was talking about things that happened when I was maybe a senior in high school or like a freshman in college. I was not around for those days. He was speaking to the response video that we had where you mentioned an altercation. From my

understanding, I thought Hop had deaded that whole situation between you and cons. I don't know. Then he started to get loud for some weird fucking reason. And I think he thought he could get loud. Let's go with optics. Scrony white guy, just chilling watching a Kanye show. He probably thought he could get that off on me in front of his peers. I met him with energy. I'm not saying a physical one. Just his tone changed when we were being respectful to loud. I met him directly at that tone. Because I didn't understand what the fuck he was talking to me for. I wasn't even around. Go talk to the people you have an issue with. Like if you want to squash it and have me moderate it, cool, maybe. But the person you're really mad at, I wasn't even cool with at the time. What the

fuck are you talking to me for? J. Electronica steps in, breaks it up. Consequence is then grabbed by what I thought looked like a security guard. And everyone I talked to yesterday that was because I wanted to make sure I had my facts fucking straight here. Consequence was taken out of that section for screaming his head off for no reason and everyone looking at him like, we're trying to watch a show, bro. He was then taken out of our suite.

I continued to watch the show. I took a picture of Chappelle and J. Electronica in an empty stadium. It's empty. This was after the show. then went to the after party, which was still in the arena. And then me, Angela Yee, and J. Electronica left the venue when we felt like going back to the hotel. That was it.

Plain and simple. I don't understand what consequence, like what his goal is here. And if Don C told you that he kicked me out, you should go have a conversation with Don C. You can't kick that about Don C. Don C like one of the coolest niggins of the world. I get kicked out of him. at Jay Elect was laughing Jay was like Doncy was the one that grabbed you to bring you in. So if Doncy, Conn's, you really actually may think that I assume KK is Kim Kardashian.

Yeah, yeah, probably. I also feel like Kim's security probably had other things to take care of instead of Rory quietly minding his business watching Adonah show. If Doncy told you that I was kicked out. You should have a conversation with Don C. Because he feels comfortable lying to you. And that should show you the level of respect he has for you. Because now you're going on podcasts, bag fuel, no jumper, reputable things. And you are clearly lying on someone that has no issue with you,

has never said a word about you in his life unless it was positive. I used to play your records on the O-Pod. I've been a cons fan for my whole life. I love consequence. Never said a bad word about him. Who is the bird in this situation? Somebody that's making an issue out of something instead of the people that did the thing

you have an issue about. And you're coming to me. Who's the bird? You finished? Sorry. No. Yeah, I don't. It's getting annoying at this point.

That's all. Yeah, I don't. Like, I'm, I don't know, man. Every time I speak loud, I think people think I'm bad. I'm not. I'm just trying to understand what the fuck is. I haven't said, anything negative about cons ever okay we had a we had a conversation last year last year uh fashion

week in new york bumped into him at a at a party had a conversation for a few minutes and i did what i what i did to him in the dms when that whole video came when we first did that our first video and i apologized to him for uh putting his name in that because that was corny and i stood on that from the beginning. I say that was corny. I shouldn't have did that. But, you know, during that time we was doing that shit, emotions was all over the place and, you know. So I apologize for saying that because that was corny. I shouldn't, I shouldn't do his name in that shit. That was, that was unnecessary. And I don't like to do unnecessary shit. Um, but then we, I saw a bump to him finally, um, fashion week last year in New York, spoke at the party, had a good conversation.

Again, I apologize him because that was my first time seeing him face to face. So I apologized again. And then he went on to say, yo, you know how much money me and your brother made together? And I said, no, I'm very aware.

I said, which is why again, I'm apologizing because it's corny. You have a relationship with my brothers. And, you know, I put your name in some shit that I shouldn't, I shouldn't have did. But, yeah, and after that conversation,

we exchanged numbers. He texted me, invited me. He had an album, I'm listening or I'm released something he had last September or last year. He had texted me.

But I was out of town when the things happened. So I hit him. I said, y'all might be out of town. But if I'm here, I'll definitely pull up on you. And he was like, cool. And that was the, that was September last year. The last time we exchanged, I haven't said anything negative about it. I know when we had a little brother on, Patreon, I even said, I said, yo, we

said, yeah, it was an issue. I said, well, we could squash that. And then you said, don't it take two people to squash the beef? And I was like, oh, I didn't. No. And why I said that was. I had nothing to do with the beef to begin with. Yeah.

How am I even involved in this entire thing? And the DM that he sent you about the Almerle shit, he said bring Rory. Was that a lot? Like, if you want to talk all this, this lying shit on Bagfuel, were you trying to lie me? Clearly there's an issue. And it's, see, I could understand the story I just told, I never told it that way because I didn't think it was that serious at all.

I told it kind of more in a funnier way to make. me look like the more lame in that situation, just in case he felt like any type of way. If I'm gonna tell a story, like, it wasn't that big of a deal. I look like the less tough guy. Now you're making me tell a story I didn't even want to tell because I didn't particularly care. That's not how it went at all. You tried to press me. It didn't work. You got even more angry and then made up a lie that you got me kicked out of something. And I can see people like, why do you care this much

about it? Lying about a situation that I was in and being kicked out, you're now talking about my character and once someone invites me into their community, I act like an idiot. And that wasn't the case. I didn't get kicked out of anything. I was actually very polite in the beginning until you started to get loud because I respected everyone around me. You didn't respect anyone that was in that booth.

That's why they walked in and was like, what the fuck are you doing right now? And that's why you were escorted out, not me. I don't know. Yeah, listen, man. I should talk to my therapist. I'm pussy shot. That's also why I'm mad too. No, but I can't see.

But this goes back to a conversation we had a few episodes ago and why I really don't do like interviews and I don't go on platforms and things like that. I mean, if I'm invited, it's again, there's certain platforms that I like and I'll go on. But it's because it's just like these, it's like you start free stuff. styling and saying things and it's like is this just for to make a compelling conversation

or content or engagement on a clip or something because it's just like you first of all you don't know me well enough to say I'm pussy you've never been in a situation with me that will validate me being pussy or not like that's at least that's how I was taught growing up like you in a situation with somebody you see how they handle themselves if they stand on what they got to stand on cool if not it's like yo he ain't really like that So that's just like, and cons is a little older than me. So it's like he knows that. Like so it's like, why would you even say those things?

Especially after we had a conversation, a great, a cool conversation and all of that shit was in the past, especially that shit like that we talk about. I don't even want to, you know what I'm saying? Like that shit is so like in my rear view. It's just like, what are we talking about, man? Like I don't, I don't have no issue with cons. I don't have no issue like. Neither do I. We had a conversation at the party last year, fashion week.

And to me, that was the final, you know, the final chapter of that. It's like we finally saw each other face to face. Again, I apologize because that's what I was taught to do when I do something wrong. I got to be loud when I'm wrong. If I'm going to be loud when I'm right, I got to be loud when I'm wrong. So I apologized. And I thought that was it. We exchanged numbers, a few texts back and forth after that.

and now y'all come in here with this clip i'm just like yo i don't i don't know what's i don't know what's what's going on anymore like i don't i don't know what's happening in the world he could he could have he could have continued to tell the lie like after the no jump or shit we never even replied or addressed it but to come on with this rah-rah they pussy is no conversation when i see you thing on top of the lie now let's let's address it and i already know where this is going to go. Consequence from what I've seen. I don't know the gentleman. Just going based off what he has presented to the world. Conn get a little erratic and I think cons is prideful. Same way I'm prideful. So instead of him hearing this out and looking at logic to say, hey, I'm wrong.

Roy never got kicked out. And I was wrong for saying he's pussy, all this random shit. I misdirected my energy and have a conversation with us. I think more rah-rah shit is going to come. and because I just proved that he's a fucking liar about the entire thing or was misinformed and the people that he claims to be friends with lied to him, he's now going to have to go above and beyond to really try to make this rob I shit go. Because I know people that have that fragile ego, when someone brings actual logic to them, they don't go, damn you right, my bad, I wild out. Let's have a conversation, cool.

This is why I said it. I realize I'm wrong. My bad. That's not what cons is going to do. cons is going to try to get louder I mean listen people could do what they want to do man I'm not I'm in a whole different

do what you want to do I'm just confused and I'm looking for clarification on the situation like I'm looking for clarity because it's like bro we spoke about that that's to me it's like what that's over with that whole situation that we referring to that's so old

it's like well what do we talk about it's 2024 bro it's 2024 right yeah it's it's 2024 like what do we what are we talking about? This was this situation happened in like 2011, 2012. We still talking about that? And my situation with Kahn's happened in 2021.

Yeah, it's just. And even though we had a back and forth that was loud, I thought we had an understanding that, I have nothing to do with that situation. I've never said a word about you. I think your energy's misdirected here. Bro, listen, because I, I know who I am and, you know, I'm going to say it.

For the last time. Consequence, I don't have no issue with you. I'm not sure if this is an old interview that just came out. And maybe he recorded this before we had our conversation last year. That could be a thing too. I don't know. Maybe this is old footage. I don't know.

I'm just saying we got to give room for any type of situation. But if it's not, just so we're clear, cons, I don't have no issues with you. My family is, you know, you cool, my brother hop. Like, it's not. You know what I'm saying? I don't have no issues. Like, I apologize because I said some wrong shit I shouldn't have said and threw your name in a conversation that was unnecessary. I apologize years ago for that. I apologize when I saw you last year at the party. And I'm apologizing now for the last time. I was wrong for what I said throwing your name in that mix. That was corny on my behalf. That was corny on my behalf. But I'm not talking about this no more after this, though. It's just like I don't have, because this is how. see sometimes you make a real situation out of nothing yeah i was just about to say that and i'm not i seen too many you know it go too many ways and it's just like nobody wins and it's like damn you get old enough you get to a point where you like holy that shit could have been avoided

so i'm saying the ego thing you know what i'm saying so it's just like well what do we talk like i don't have no because there's no real issue there and that's that's really why i can't give it but so much energy because it's like that shit yeah again i apologize but i'm not going to keep apologizing like that's just this the last time i apologize i was wrong we had a conversation it's over with as far as i'm concerned that shit is in my rearview that we're talking about something that happened over a decade ago like bro it's so much new money printed out here i'm not trying to hear about no old shit like that man like this that shit is over with man that on my behalf I never spoke I never spoke negative about cons after that you can't find me nowhere saying any negative thing about this dude ever like once I apologize and I was wrong that was it for me like I was done and even before that I never said nothing negative about him I was just recanting the story of what happened that night however 12 11 years ago how long that should go that she was but even in that I didn't say nothing negative about I said you I was just holding a situation

down because at the time I thought that was a friend and I was doing the friend thing but yeah well do you all think that shit is so old man that shit is over with man we're gonna we're gonna wrap this up because you guys are right but do you think that this is happening to Roar especially the part about Rory Rory being dragged in this

because Rory looks like easy bait maybe to him right? Because the real issue is possibly I don't know this that his ego was messed up in that whole situation all the years ago whatever it is whatever it is it's stupid no of course it is But I'm just saying as far as Rory, because I feel like Rory is possibly like a punch.

Rory's being used as a punching bag because the other gentleman can't be, you know what I'm saying. Niggas don't want to touch the other gentlemen. Niggas don't want to touch them all. So it's, well, I have to take this anger and this embarrassment out on somebody. It's not even. That's what I was saying. I don't know. It happened at that Donna show when I said it to him.

Like, I know the optics. I think he thought that. And then it was quickly realized that that wasn't going to happen. You weren't just going to speak to me some type of way and I don't even know you. so I'll try to sum it up as positive as you did for my end. Consequence, I never had an issue with you to begin with. I didn't know you. I never spoke on you.

I do have an issue with you lying on me and then trying to call me pussy and all this other shit. I think that's weird and bird behavior because I've never said a word about you. When we did run into each other, even though there was some heated exchange, I felt we did have a man-to-man conversation, which I feel I didn't even owe you because I've never said a word about you. And I still had it. So to me, like mall, I thought this was just like some funny whatever shit.

Him going this way is odd to me, and I don't have an issue with him, but I do have an issue with someone continually to lie on me and then add in all this other rah-rah pussy shit. That's all. See, that don't bother me. Nigga, I'm being whole foods trying to find ripe avocado. Like, I don't care about somebody calling me.

It's tough. Yeah, I don't care about somebody calling me pussy. It's just like, because you look weird when you call me that when you don't really know me. To me, that's just like, how you go somebody pussy and you don't even know them? Like, I would never do that. Like, you could be talking to somebody that got four heads in their freezer. You're talking about pussy. Like, who you, you don't know who you talking to.

It's like a challenge. When you, if you don't know me to know that I'm pussy, but you say that I'm pussy, it's like you asking me to prove you wrong. Yeah, but I'm not. And none of us are calling cons pussy. Yeah, but it's just... I don't know, cons. He may not be pussy at all. Bro, listen, bro.

I'm just... I'm talking about... I don't know him. I'm talking about... This is what I'm saying. He might have a black belt, for all I know. I'm just like, all of this niggas on podcast and, you know, you mention somebody's name and you say some slick shit and then you make that a clip and then that clip go viral. It's just like, bro, I'm so sick of this corny shit.

Like, it's just, that shit is, it's just corny. Like, especially when they... There's no real issue. Like, it's like, what? Like, I don't have no. I don't have it. I say, how many times I said Julian, I don't have an issue with nobody. Except Joe Biden.

I don't have beat. Well, yeah, fuck him. But I don't have beef with nobody. It's like, stop trying to create. We got to get to something. We got to find another way, another angle, man. We can't just keep creating issues. Maybe, yes, Jules, coming from the good music camp.

Okay. could solve this whole consequence new Roy and all thing. I know that's your people. Maybe we hire her just on some monthly retainer piece type of thing, no? She knows everyone involved. Yeah, but she's going, she got a bigger fish to fry right now. She got bigger fish to fry. So yes, Jules was, I'm guessing she was fired from her role.

acquisition at Yeezy? No guess. The email reads, Dear Jules, obviously you're fired. Yours truly. Yeah, that was the cover sheet. Yeah, no guess on that one. A little bit of detailing. In the detailing, they said she violated her NDA.

Yeah, she's been doing, before you get into that, she's been doing a lot for the Yeezy for the Voltures project, rollout. Sure. Yeah. She's been in charge of a lot of their fan engagement online, a couple activations that they had for the rollout. and things like that, which is what Jewel essentially does.

Like, she's a curate of the vibes, I believe is what they call it. That was her. She coined that term to herself. Yes. But self-appointed. She was doing what seemed to be good work for Yeezy and for the Voltus rollout. And then obviously this happened. And they're saying that she was in violation of certain things that she wasn't supposed to do.

I don't know what it was an NDA. But the thing. not understand was on one email it said you are terminated from the contract that you never signed I saw that one first so she's what is she in violation of if she didn't never signed anything that she agreed on can you zoom into that Julian because I found that language extremely weird this was the first thing that came out before the last two days of crazy rants oh it says because it says because I can't make it I can read it says because you are being terminated for cause but also because you forgot to sign your contract,

your termination is effective immediately. Yeah. So if I forgot to sign my contract... You can't terminate me. One, you can't terminate me and two, what am I in violation of? You could, if they have some type of ownership over those Yeezy fan communities,

that's something that they put together and have IP on it and she's involved in it, then they can, I guess, terminate her as like a mod. But that made no sense. But you also have to understand who these emails have been coming from. Yes. That dude Milo,

shh-sha-sha-sha-huh. That guy? That's how it's right. Is one of the biggest fucking creeps on earth. He's an advocate for pedophilia. Wait, what? This dude is insane.

What do you mean he's an advocate for pedophilia? He's an advocate for pedophilia. This isn't some democratic conspiracy. I've watched plenty of interviews with this guy. He's a British far-right political commentator. He was molest. He was molested as a kid and thought it was very healthy for his upbringing and advocates for that type of things that happen. He was gay for most of his life.

Now he's not gay. He's part of the trans movement of becoming not gay because it's a sin. He's a fucking nut job. So no. He's running his campaign. It was the Nick Florentez or whatever that kid's last name is. Oh, yeah, for a bit. So Milo fired Nick and has been taken over Kanye's presidential campaign, but also running a lot of the easy.

stuff. Well, I did like Jules' response because she said from the beginning, she said exactly who she wanted to work with, and this dude was not one of the dudes that she wanted to work with. And then she sent the response email saying that she doesn't wish to talk to any pedophilic, satinous,

what does she say? Homophobic. She says, hi, Milo. Thank you for your email. As soon as Yeezy is free of pedophilic sex, sexist, homophobic, racist. I will be more than happy to speak to Yeh directly about being a part of the team. Obviously, this means you need to quit or be fired. Respectfully,

Juliana Goddard. Is that not contradictory though? Because up until her being retroactively fired, no, no, no, no. She was working with him. Yeah, but she, in the email, she posted that as well. She's, she's been posting her receipts. She, she made it very clear from the beginning who she wanted to work with and who she wanted to report to. And this dude's name wasn't, and I think he responded and said, uh, that's fitting or like, I figured that. would be the response or something like that. Like she posted the email. Sure, but okay, it's fine.

They're not texting each other or like directly day to day. No, she did still work for you. You're still working with the guy. She posted Texas between the two of them. Texas. Texas is. There was that. I mean, but she did also post her saying she did not want to work with someone like

that prior to this whole thing. And I'm here to defend rules. I think she's right in the situation. I think it's very unfortunate that she's being used as some scapegoat for someone in that. Yeezy team fumbling the fan pages and making

Jules look like the bad guy when she wasn't. But at the same time, she was working with that guy. She made it clear she didn't want to, but she still took the job and worked for them.

Well, she posted about that too. She said, you know, she didn't stand on you know, her integrity and morals as hard as she should have, obviously by taking the role because that dude was working there. But, um, let's see.

man, you can't, you know, what's you going to do, man? You're going to not work, not be able to support yourself and your family? Because there's no one else you could work for? I mean, if you, if you have a person in relationship with Kanye, and he wants you to be a part of, you know, his team and his, his, his rollout for his, his new project. I mean, you may not agree with some of the people he has on his staff. Damn, this guy's a piece of shit. it. Sorry, I'm just reading.

And for any, like, super Kanye fans or super Milo fans, trust me, I did my research. I'm not just going off what headlines say. I've watched his interviews. It's inexcusable. He's pro-petophilia. Like, don't even try to flip it. Like, you don't understand like he's just trying to get people to open

their mind. No. I, fuck all that. He's down with pedophilia. Yeah, anybody that's down pedophilia. You can die with all pedophilia. I don't really care about the rest of his policies, even if I agreed with them, which I don't. Well, let's say, I agreed with 99.9% of everything he said.

That point one of like, yo, that pedophile shit, that's what's up. I'm cool. Can't fuck with you. Yeah. Now, in Julesa's situation, all right, we've all probably been in jobs where if you go through the entire staff, I've worked at Havas. And I'm not going to put this on Havas jacket, but it's the largest ad agency in the world. I'm sure there's some nasty fucking people that I was C-Ced on emails with.

No way. I know that that's sometimes out of people's hands. I don't think the staff was that big. If Jewel said, y'all, I don't want to work with that guy. If he's just doing political shit and not the vulture shit, I'm still. I think I'm cool. I can't. That guy's fucking nuts.

Yeah? He is nuts. I mean, it's hard. Listen, I understand. But sometimes it's hard for people to stand that hard on their morals and integrity. Like I said, it's a tough time for a lot of people. people got bills, people got families, people got, you know, so it's like, your integrity ain't going, when that rent due, you know what I'm saying? And your landlord emailing you like, yo, rent's due. You ain't gonna be like, yo, I'm standing on business. Like, I ain't, I ain't take this job with easy because they got some dude that supports pedophilia over there. Landlord ain't gonna want to hear that. Yeah. And now separately, I am here to defend Jules because I know what it's like to be a scapegoat when you didn't do anything wrong. But while this shit is falling apart, we're going to blame this person even though he was the one that was actually trying to do everything

correct. I've been there. I know what it feels like. So I've appreciated everything Jules has done on the timeline after that. Yeah. I was the only, Kanye, no one could touch him. The only way to do that rollout for real was to tap into the fan bases, which Kanye is a huge fan base on the internet, obviously. Jules did the only thing you could really do in this situation to make sure that rollout went properly. You can't do real press with Kanye West right now. You got to tap into actual fans that are going, the purest form of word of mouth right now is what Jules was trying to tap into. I would like to know what NDA violations are they referring to. They were suggesting that she was taking credit for certain things that Kanye fans were doing and there was some type of

financial gain. And I even saw one post about a target run for people they hired and they sent Jules, the money. It sounded very petty and I think that's why they post, Jules posted that email saying, hey, we reconsidered, we want you back. Because they realized this is done, like we're firing Jules over a misunderstanding of $40 at Target. Like, what are we doing right now? Yeah. I don't think Jules did anything wrong. Say what you want about her and other things in this situation. I fully am on her side. It doesn't seem like she did anything wrong. So I'm happy she, she posted the seats. Like, you're not about to shit on my character and have me fired and all that shit. Headlines everywhere. Like, I did something wrong. Right. I was here to help y'all.

Well, does she take the job? Does she take the position back? I mean, she made it clear. I loved her response. Um, hi, Milo. Thank you for your email. As soon as Yeezy is free of pedophilic, sexist, homophobic, racist, I will be more than happy to speak to to Yeh directly about being part of the team. Obviously, this means you need to quit or be fired, respectfully. So. So if Milo goes, Jules is back.

Yeah. Sounds like it. All right. Well, we'll have to see who Kanye feels like is more of an asset to his team. My favorite, my favorite thing that she posted that had

nothing to do with her argument. I just, like, love Kanye when he gets in his, like, super weird brain. One text was, I think of, like, some internet artist that they had, hired that Kanye wanted to work with. And Jules had posted

like a group chat of her talking with Milo about this girl really annoying Kanye. And instead of saying copy when he asked her to do something, she'd be like, yo, I'm on it. And then Kanye replied with, simply say copy. Then the woman replied copy. And then Ye said, I have decided not to work with you.

That's hard. because she just kept saying, yo, I'm on it. Simply say copy. Yeah. So she said, copy.

I've decided not to work with you. Man, listen, they got to be tough around working around the easy camp boy. Niggas got to wear socks all day.

No underwear. She's just like, yo, you got to say copy. Then when you say copy, he don't want to work with you. It's got to be such a weird environment.

For sure. Because you know as objective as you could possibly be. This is probably one of the greatest creative environments I can be in. If I want to be a creative, this is my mecca. If I want to be an architect like, holy shit, look who I'm around. Look at the risks he's taking. This is a creative's dream. But that's the catch-22 of having to deal with that genius of a creative brain.

You reply with copy. After he says, say copy. And now you're fired. Now you're fired. Willie Wonka's chocolate factory? What the fuck am I doing right now? Now you got a pack you shouldn't get the fuck out. Yeah.

Don't say copy after I told you to say it. Can I shoot some bail on that message though? I think he was trying to tell her next time. Don't say I'm on it. Say copy. He felt like she's being commenting. She should have never replied with cop. She shouldn't have said anything.

She's just gone on her head. All right next time. Yeah, but then if you don't respond, it's like, okay, now you're... You probably would have followed up with you're fired anyway. Exactly. Like, you know what? I don't think I want to work with you. She was out of there.

This is we put it up there. She could have said a copy 20 times. She's out of there. Julian, you can probably speak with me in some of those times. Like when you've been at a label or whatever, you're put on text with someone that, like, you know and revere. And you start overthinking every last fucking response. Like, yo, meet me at this address. And it's like, all right, should I say bet?

What, like, should I, yo, on my way? Should I just heart it? Like, am I going to look at weird now that I'm put on this text with this person that? They don't give a fuck. They sent you an address, just go there. You overthink everything. My approach to that, because for Rory's point, there were a lot of, like, messages or group chats or I'm thrown into a conversation

with artists. And I would always do that. I would always overthink. And I'm like, why am I? So then I just started just talking, like, how I talked to, like, my guys, my friends, whatever. And I was like, oh, everyone talks like this. It doesn't have to be a whole, like, half formal, half cool.

Like, just talk the way you talk to everybody. Just be yourself. Just be yourself. That's it. The worst is one. when you're in a conflicting situation. I think I can tell this story. I don't think they'll get mad.

I was doing socialists for Big Sean when he was signed a Kevin Lyle's label when we were doing the Oragold's. That's why he had all those typos? 100%. Yeah. I did not do Big Sean's captions. I was doing the Oragold Instagram. You thought the dollar sign wasn't as. I'll go even further.

I was doing the Oragold Instagram with Mike Carson. Yeah. It's just filthy. Over there. South by Southwest anniversary. Shout out to the Fillmore. Yeah. Shout out to the Fillmore.

You just drop anything at this point. Shout out to the film. You're rolling loud. Shout out to the Fillmore. And we were doing a pop-up at for Oragold on Fulton Street. And I posted what I was supposed to do of a picture of and all the Oro-Gold shit in the window for the pop-up because he was doing a meet and greet.

And if you bought a T-shirt, like, you know, typical shit. Sean texts me as like, yo, why the. fuck would you ever post on the Oregol account? And I understood what he was saying. Like, I love Bres. But Oragol wasn't expensive for streetwear.

It's pretty expensive. You may devalue a brand when you put it with a certain store that is not bad, but I'm not trying to shit on that. Nor was Big Sean. I was conflicted between that when Kevin then hits me and says, why the fuck did you delete

the photo of the pop-up shop? and now I'm sitting on text with everyone like, all right, who do I reply to? Yeah. Who do I want me to hate more? Those situations are fucking awful. Yeah, but that's, I mean, that, that I can understand. I was sitting outside and Dr. Jays at 6 a.m. like, all right, so either Kevin Lyle is going to hate me or Big Sean is going to hate me.

Because between the artist and the label head, that's just like, they have, oh, God. Who is going to hate me more? I'm getting PTSD because that's when I, like, I would artists, I'd been putting the group chat, me, artist manager. and then they would text me on the side. Manager would say one thing. Artists say a completely different thing. And I'm like, well, shit. Why do I have to be there?

I don't want to pick. Let's go to the group. So I would address it in the group of the three of them. And then they would have hit me on the side. I'm like, fuck that man. I'm doing. I'm like, all right. Yeah, but at that point,

you just got to do your job. Like, your job is not to. Like, obviously the management, the artists are having conflicting views or the men are the artists in the label having conflicting views. Let them figure that out. But whatever job you were told and

hired to do. As long as that's done, your grounds are covered. But that's the thing. You can agree upon, say you agree upon a campaign or how something's supposed to be rolled out. Yeah. But the way in which one person wants to roll it out, the manager is slightly, not even like drastically different, but slightly different than how the artist wants to do it. Yeah. Or like something as simple as this, if you have an asset to post for a music video or a song, the artist wants this one, the manager and the label or whoever wants this one. What do I, what happens? Yeah. And I never want to make those decisions, but I was forced to do it all the time. Yeah.

Which is why you just reply to everyone, copy. Yeah. Copy. And just do whatever the fuck you want to do. I deleted the photo and thank God, Sean and I are still friends today. Well, we'll have to see what happens with Jules. I know her phone was going crazy right now. So I started seeing shit.

I was going to reach out in Texas just to kind of figure out what was going on. But I hit up probably like another week or something. I mean, you should check on her. Yeah, no. I'm not trying to get information. That's another thing, too. When you do a podcast, like, people think that when you're hitting them about some shit, like, it's to like gain shit to talk about on a platform.

It's like, no, like, I really fuck with you. Like, I'm just like just checking on you as a person. Like, I don't, I'm not looking for any information to bring to my platform. Yeah, I think I had that moment with Deez-is. Oh, I can't say that because then they think that I'm not trying to grow the podcast. Oh, well, I defended you on Discord. Yeah. Paul is pretty hard.

on Discord. I was championing for you. I saw somebody said that. I said podcast and is corny. I never said that. I never said that. I was, what did cons call us,

cheerleaders? Or mascots? Mascots. I was your mascot in Discord last night when people question me about that entire thing of how people can interpret that as saying you don't want to grow the podcast. I can understand that this portion

is something you're uncomfortable with, but that's one part of growing a podcast. and that's crazy where when you have a partner I'll text people and there's things I won't do that what we'll do

and that's how you I reach out to have people on my platform I'm not reaching out to somebody for me to be on their platform

that's all I was saying a podcast grows from concrete that is that is true I mean we would know that like the we are like the

we were given we're like the forefathers of this podcast and shit no we were given this oh yeah I walked outside and they said here

that's true kind of just fell into your lap yeah I wasn't sitting outside of 6 a. paranoid as fuck before any of this um which

what was it on fulton in uh in brooklyn downtown yeah then the fulton mall area good times that whole strip in the summertime yeah uh I miss i miss new york remember like when new york was in new york you can get an outfit or you can get killed

50 or pussy like so many options it was all right there and then they put shake shack there and it was like oh all right shake shak i never need to leave cut stab shot shot Shot, pussy, some Timms. You get a college degree? College degree, yes. Shout out to L-IU.

It's all right there. Right there. Whatever you want. That's Brooklyn in a nutshell. Absolutely. Everything that you just said. Absolutely. Before we do get to voicemails,

we were having a conversation off mic. That Gilbert Arena is a swaggy piece shit. It was super corny. For those that didn't see the clip. Yes, corny, but that's what people want. People want corny. People want lame. People want that.

Let's play the clip. People don't want stand-up real shit. They want corny. Priglin, pregnant. Got the young boy. Damn. They only knew. But, like, I would stop, too, though.

Like, like, that day when I was riding home with Philly in the car, it is. I don't know if I tell that story? If you want me to tell that story. Don't they do a sports show? She's a mother now. She's a mother now. Yeah, we can't do that because that day changed my life. She's a mother now, but let's do exactly what.

said we weren't going to do. He was like, okay, man, I got to, this is what NBA is about. Hey, hey, NBA, listen, I let you know this is. Yeah. I'm riding in a car. He's in the back seat. I turn my head. This is it against.

Huh? No, no. What was you doing that back seat, you know? What was you doing that back seat? Yeah. Let's say everything except the obvious explicit what we're leaning. into telling people exactly what happened. That's so fucking corny.

I don't know why y'all be surprised when ballplayers and people who grew up. That was little surprised. Nobody surprised. He said she's a mother now. She has two kids. And I'm hypocritical because I love a lot of Gilbert's antics that probably are just as bad as this. But, all right, I'm going to use this as a buffet. I'm picking and choosing.

This is corny as fuck. Yes. I, listen, you're not going to find, well, yes, it's corny. When he used to terrorize Swaggy Peace kids, I was laughing. nonstop. Yeah. Thought it was hilarious. But this is, but this is, but this is what the, this is what the, this is what the audience

likes. They like corny shit. They like gossipy shit. They like tabloid shit. What about this? They like lame shit. All right. So in one minute, I found out that Dreya gave Gilbert Arena's head in the backseat of

a car however many years ago. No, no way. Like, all right. Now what? Yeah, but that's, what about this is liked? No, that's just to the conversation that people were having about Dreia's past already. This is just the new chapter to add into that past where people didn't know that she fellaced Gilbert in the backseat of a car. Because whose business is it though? But this is no, but

this is follow what I'm saying. This is just part of the to add to the conversation that's already happening about Dreya. That's what I'm saying. Yes, it's corny, but that conversation is already happening online when she came out and announced she was pregnant by a 22 yo Jalen Green. Okay. So that's part of now it's like, oh shit, she was with Gilbert. Now it's just two. Two. He's just another name in the book. That's all it is.

But people are already having this conversation. That's what I'm like, I'm agreeing with y'all. It's corny. It's lame for niggas to sit around and talk publicly about, yeah, I had that. That's going to always be corny. But what I'm saying is now, corny is content. People don't give a fuck. This shit probably got me.

That clip probably got millions of views. Nobody gives a fuck about it being corny. They're watching it. They're sharing it. They sending it to somebody else. They talking about it on podcast. Now, like, this is what I'm saying. Like, people don't care that it's corny.

It's content. People just want to talk about it. Yes, it's corny. But niggas don't have integrity no more. That's an old man sport integrity. That's a dying sport having integrity. I've seen this is what, this is what's lit right now. Yo, tell us everything.

I say it all the time. When you try to be private and you try to keep shit, you acting weird. Oh, you acting weird. You're moving fun. You're what? Yo, come on. Tell me who you was with. Now when you don't want to talk about that.

Well, really don't know. You acting funny. you being a widow. Why are you moving like you, you suss. You move a suspect because I don't want to tell you who I was fucking last night. That's a big difference though, I think, between what you're saying and this. No, it's not. Who I was fucking last night is people want to know everything.

They want to know everything. They want to know everything. They want to know everything. Corny is content now. I'm with you. Tell me who she fucked. Tell me who she sucked. Tell me I want to know every.

People want to know everything about Drey and now. They want to know everything. So that can be more to their fuel of saying, oh, she's a whore. I've seen a predator. And I'm not saying she's not. I'm not saying she's not. I'm just saying this is just more to add to that conversation that's already happening. If I've seen corny content work, what about this works?

Woman that has been known to sleep with athletes got pregnant by athlete and then athletes says they also fucked her. Yeah, but it's not. I've seen corny content make for good content. Like it was corny that they. told this story, but it was a full conversation. This isn't even content. No, yeah, nobody. This is, this is.

Nobody saw the hit down. No, no, no, no. No. So now I'm, now I'm, now I'm hit you with the new shit that I'd like to say. Did you see the rest of the clip? I didn't. Exactly. So shut the fuck up. Because you don't know.

You don't know what they went. I don't know. I'm not watching this shit. But I'm just trying to tell you that that's what people want. They're going to take that clip. Send that shit all around the fucking world. But ain't nobody. watched the rest of this fucking episode or IG Live that Gil and Nick was doing to understand

what the whole premise of the whole conversation was. You think they told more stories about Drea? I don't know. They probably did. All right. The only other context of this would be like, yeah, she then took my dick out of her mouth and had a great exit strategy for Ukraine. Like, what other context is here? I don't know. This is a 53 second. What did they, what did they cut out of this story? You're missing the details. You're watching a 53 second clip and you're reacting to a 53 second clip. Yeah, because it was 53 seconds of corn-ass shit. But what I'm saying is you didn't watch anything else

from this conversation that Nick and Gil had to tie it together and say, oh, this is why they was talking about this. Is this clip corny? 100%. I'm with y'all on that. But what I'm trying to tell you is this is what people want. They want corny shit. They want lame shit.

They want to see women disrespected. They want. That's what they want. They want that. You think they didn't know what they was doing by mentioning you think they didn't know? Like, of course, things know you. Clip that. Clip that.

I think if you're really talented at your job, if your job is making content and talking to people, I think if you're really talented at it, you don't have to be clickbaity. I think if you're actually talented. You're going into a conversation that's been had since, you know, like, that's the old conversation you have.

Niggas, like, get the fuck out of here. To that shit you just said, niggas, shut up. My clip got 7 million views. What are you going to tell somebody when they hit up day, niggas, niggas don't care? As long as people is clicking.

on it and sharing it and viewing it. You don't care that you think like, yo, nah, it don't need to be clickbaity. You sound like me. Now you sound like me. I'll be in here saying it's safe shit to y'all. Y'all be like, yo, I'm like, bro, nah, this is clickbaity shit, though. I don't want to do that. And then y'all tell me I'm wrong.

Okay, so did you fuck Dreya? Let's get down to it. I wish. I was going to break down this clip real quick. Mall says he wished he fucked Dreya. See? Now your man. Now your man going to clip that and put that on his YouTube. And that's what I get. And now Drey is going to make.

a video cursing me out. That's what I get from clips like that. That's what I get from clip because it seems like you're proud to have fucked the groupie. Like that's like you're excited. Like is she the celebrity or are you? You make a great point. She made a great point.

How long I've been saying niggas is groupies for groupies? You actually invented that quote. That ain't new. This shit ain't new. We just got social media and niggas got cameras now. And lights and shit. My favorite. And microphones and shit.

This shit ain't new. They did that on an iPhone 13, though. Nick Young said watching retroactively, without explicitly saying it, he said, watching you get head, turning around and watching you get head in the car, change my life. This is what the NBA is about. That's what Nick Young said to Gilbert. Well, because Nick was, he also played with Cody.

Watching you get mopped off in a car changed my life. Well, because Nick was a young player at the time, I think he probably was a rookie coming into the league. Staring at your teammate getting head changed your life. No, but it's a, it's a girl. He was getting head from bad bitches in the back of cars in high school. But he wouldn't know that because he was in a It's a girl that you've seen in videos and she's one of the prettiest girls on the internet.

And now she's in the backseat with your teammate getting right to it. Change your life. Playing find the keys. You see what I'm saying? That's what the NBA is about. So then you're like, well, shit, this is what the, this is when a Jerry, where Jerry West logo get you? Like, okay, welcome to the NBA. That's what it is.

You wear that patch now. It's like, okay, yeah, the girl you used to just be drooling over. Look what she's doing to you. She's drooling on your men in the back seat now. That's part of the game. But you can't, yes, I agree. Once again, it's corny and lame for men to be discussing what they're doing with women. Yes, I agree.

But it's not corny anymore because now corny can be taken off the cob and turned it to corn suflay and be a clip with fucking millions of views that goes straight to your AdSense account. And just now you can fucking buy a new Ferrari and shit like that. So is it really corny? Yeah. Jalen should have gotten a car with Gilbert Arrinas is what you say. You should have taken those steps. No, I'm saying that if Gilbert-

changed Nick's life again. Yeah. If Gilbert, if Gilbert didn't have the wherewithal to have Nick in the car that night to wherewithal. Yeah, if he didn't have the where Swaggy Peace Career would have gone.

Exactly. See what I'm saying? Look how your shit align with mine's now. We don't really speak to the importance of the mentor-mente experience. Exactly. See what I'm saying? And how important it is to their lives.

Right. You know what I'm saying? Because he did, I mean, everything that happened with him in Iggy, like yeah, of course, he took his tutelage to the next level. My people says something interesting about the whole Dreya, Jalen Green shit.

I don't want to say her name. I don't know if she wanted me to say her name, but she posted something about... Dreya. About the whole Dreya, Jalen Green situation saying that we need to go deeper into it because it's really, the story's really sick

because I think Drea was a mentor to Jalen Green's girlfriend at one point. Oh, that's nice. So it's like a little deeper, more sinister. You know, and I'm just like, I don't really care to getting that to that shit deep enough like that. But if that is true, that is crazy. Listen, man, a wise gay thug once said, the game is the game. Omar Littles.

He also, I believe I saw a post that Jailing got her name Tad. He's all inked up. I saw a post that said he added her name to his body. So, you know, love is love. Reverend. Listen, man, let love win, you know? Let love in and let love win. That's all.

Is it a problem if you just? like tat your BM even if you're not together. Like if you got your kids, like just put your whole family there. Go like the sticker on the car. Yeah, just like everyone, you know, put the, put the guest list for the family reunion tatted on you. I'm the wrong, I don't have a single tattoo. I'm the wrong person I ask you. You can ask this gentleman with Marvin Gay's Scully tattered on his arm.

You know, just the wizard over here. The wizard of tattoos. That might get you into some trouble eventually. Why? This family is going to, the state is. gonna sue them? No, that too. They take my arm. You get it to you all. Every time you flex, it's a sound wave that they own the publishing on. The gay estate is coming after you. When you settle down and like have a long-term girlfriend or wife and you're getting more tattoos,

she could come up with that, that girl logic that you would have Marvin Gay tattooed on you, but you wouldn't have to be attracted to a woman that would come up with this illogical logic? Women, that's just a woman thing, though. You can't really escape that. So you wouldn't touch a white on you? a name, like a written name, no. No, I didn't say a written name. I said you wouldn't touch your wife. I would get a symbol that reminds me of her.

Yeah, like a symbolic thing. I'm not getting her face. Like Marvin Gay's dad. Huh? Huh? What? Nothing. Say it.

Overlord. Overlord. Do we have voicemails? You've got mail. This is, okay, Australian caller. The accent's fun. Shout out to Australian. She's calling with a riddle.

So it's very fun. A riddle? Yeah. Ready. We have to answer it? Gidey y'all. My name's Emma, sending love all the way from Australia. Huge fan of the pod.

Keep doing what you doing. So I had this riddle on another podcast, and I thought it would be an interesting discussion point for you guys. So I said there's a man, we'll call him Jeff, and he's dating two women. We'll call them Amanda and Becky. He's dating them at the same time. He tells Amanda that he's dating Becky,

but he doesn't tell Becky that he's. dating Amanda. Check on the time of truth. Who does Jeff love slash care about more? There's no right answer. I just thought it would be an interesting discussion point

for you guys to talk about. Can't wait to hear your thoughts. Thanks. There is the right answer. Thank you for that, Emma. What's the riddle? He cares more about Becky. So he's a man.

He cares more about the girl he's not telling. The girl he's lying to is the girl he cares about. Agreed. Or that girl can fight. So he's scared over. Well, let's catch Roy up to speed real quick.

And she got, no, or he's. He's just checking the temperature and the one he told. How many brothers she got? Who got more brothers? You always lie to the one you like more. True. Yeah, because men, and y'all talk about girl logic, men just make so much sense, right?

That just makes so much sense. Well, I have one pussy when you can have two. Or he's... Ooh, you just said something. Yeah. Talk about it. That's what I'm saying with checking the temperature. It may not be the one he cares about more.

The one that's more into him fucking other girls, he tells first to check her temperature. And then they both ease into telling the other one. No. Well, which one is more of your Which one is like the girlfriend? Because you've got to have the one that's the girlfriend. The one he's lying to is the one he cares about. The one he's lying to is the girlfriend.

The other girl is his side, but she's a good side because she knows he's probably still fucking with other girls. She's not the only one, but they hook up and have, you know, their time together. So yeah, you lie to, but I don't. And women say, yo, why you should just tell me maybe I would have been cool with it?

Women love to get that off. Like, why are you going to just tell me? Maybe I would have been cool. cool what you have in a side, bitch. You're right. Cut the shit. Cut it the fuck out. That's classic entravenant.

Cut it out. When a woman says that, I almost want to check for a wire. I don't even need to take free law to know that. Yeah, you got a fucking wire on. Only somebody that's trying to get me fucking jammed up would say something like that. I just feel like there's too many scorpions and things that can kill you in Australia and not, like, why be faithful? You could die tomorrow.

Everything in Australia kills you. Why the fuck would you be faithful? Go to a concert in America. A concert. A movie theater. You got to do that. Just walk outside. Yeah.

In New York City. Okay. I might take our awful gun laws compared to crocodiles and great white sharks that can fucking team up and attack me in shallow water. But you have to go. There's insects that you just walk outside. There are so many more deaths in this country. Just fuck everything else.

We're worried about the shark. in Australia. He's like, yeah, there's sharks in the though. Yeah, but you have to be in the, that's how it works. I ain't a lie. I'd rather be shot in my motherfucking forehead three times than to have a snake crawl up out my toilet while I'm taking a shit. Shoot me, kill me. I'm good. What? What?

Do you guys watch National Geographic? Australia is the scariest place on earth. America's the scariest place on Earth. Chicago's the scariest place on Earth. The Bronx right now. Go to Gaza right now. Tell someone you scared of Chicago. Go to Webstah, and

Bronx right now. Go to Saveside right now. Those little niggas over there going crazy. Niggas is drilling everything over there. At least I could give up an asset and they may not kill me. Scorpions don't care. Everything. Have you seen a kangaroo like in shape?

They're all in shape. Yeah, but the kangaroo ain't going. You're not going to be in whole food to turn on a kangaroo standing behind you ready to scrap. If you're at Rikers. You got to be in the wilderness. All right. Take your pick.

This is the Riker Showdown. A Crip or an in-shaped kangaroo on the yard. C-78, right there. I'm fighting the crib. Nah, I'm fighting the kangaroo. This is one of my favorite videos at all right. So my homie just snuffed that kangaroo. That was it.

I saw you got to do some time. Just let a nigga taste his own blood in his mouth. I would do that for Bays. I would definitely do that for my dog. Bays would get snapped early. Bays would be in her pouch as it ran away just now. The kangaroo had the dog in a headlock. Yeah.

See, he puts. That's like a cane corso. Yeah, like back up, you know. What's up? He ate that punch. That's the way he squared up. That's the way he squared up with the kangaroo. Also, some of the clearest footage of all time.

Yeah. Yeah, turn your back on a kangaroo. It's crazy. Yeah, you know, smack the shit out of kangaroo. And the kangaroo sat there and looked at him like, yeah. Yeah, but then he so happened after the kangaroo ran off too, though. No, the dude ran off after he realized his best work didn't do anything.

I, you punch a Crip like that in the face on the yard and see if he just run off like that. That ain't happening. I'm saying the Rikers Kangaroo is not acting the way this kangaroo did. Bang. If you put, Intuitionalized, if that's even a word, kangaroo and Rikers.

That shit, it's, the contrabander could hide in its pouch. I don't smack the shit out that kangaroo. They'll fuck about that kangaroo. They have short arms. They got reached. They got sharp.

It looks like it should. The legs are long as shit. Yeah, imagine being in a cell with that type of leverage with your legs. you know how they fight though usually they're not punch throwers they'll they'll lean on the back of their tail and kick yeah so they'll they'll hit you with all that leg strength which is a lot scared of no fucking kangaroo snakes you could rob me with a snake you're terrified rob me with a snake i'm dead serious i'm terrified don't tell no Puerto rican's on the grand concourse that you know

the niggas can't wait till they get warm out they put all these snakes around their neck walk outside look at that you squaring up with that that was a deal breaker for me me with a girl I was talking to a long time ago. Pit Bulls were scary. She didn't strike me as the girl that would like have a snake in her crib and she was one of those type of girls. She owned like exotic pets. I mean granted I beat but after that I was

and I liked her. Yeah. I'm just not hanging out at your crib with a fucking snake. Yeah, you got to watch out for those girls that's like Dr. Doolittle going their crib and they just got a bunch of exotics. Yeah. Like yo like I don't, is this even legal? If you got heat lamps in your crib, that's weird. Yeah, that's bitch. Wow. But I'll, but I'll,

But women that are into animals like that are really good people, though. Like, they're, you know, they're very nurturing and very... Sometimes. I fuck the chick that had a rabbit. Which one? Oh, my heck's a rabbit. A lot of rabbits. Shout out to rabbit moves.

If you need your stuff, move. Shout out to rabbit movers, my guys. Shout out to my girl. Are you still moving? No, I'm just saying. Just want to shout them out. Shout out to rabbit movers, man. Just a quick trigger warning.

This voicemail contains conversation about cancer. Hey guys, I'm going to keep my name anonymous because I don't know who watches the pod. And it's a very specific story. And I wanted you guys to weigh in on it. It reminded me after today's IG clip that you guys were talking. So two-part story. This dude we went to high school with. He was engaged at one time.

They had the relationship. They had a dog. He cheated. So the girl kept the dog and renamed it. We think that's hilarious. Part two of that is he's now in a new situation where he's engaged. engaged and he has a group chat with his friends where there's a bachelor party going on and he hits the bachelor's bachelor's party chat saying hey bachelor party's off and the wedding's off too his friend

then comes into the chat and says yeah the wedding and bachelor party are off because xyz b has been fucking my wife the plot thickens because the wife has cancer and other turn of events is there was a conversation at one point where both parties were having a conversation about being swingers and fucking each other. And so the guy went to high school's fiancee or ex-fiancee now was not down for that situation. So he just went and fucked his boy's wife. And so we don't kind of know where to draw the lines because we had kids or what, but I want to see what you guys have to say about it. Thank you. I don't even mind keeping this in. Can we listen to that one more I tried my best to follow that and I'm very low.

Yeah, I think what he said, we'll listen to it again, but I think what he's saying is he's trying to apply the logic of if someone in the situation has cancer, should they be allowed to fuck whoever they want? But there's way more going on here. I mean, we already, there's a lot of layers going on. We already cracked that answer last episode. Yeah, correct.

We smoked that one. Okay, but let's give us one more go through. And I'm actually going to type notes while it's happening. Yeah. This is a whole chart. I can't figure out this is how crazy this one was. my note for this one was white people fucking each other all crazy.

Because clearly this is a white guy. Clearly. Ironically, you know, my first question of this entire thing was how old was the dog when they changed the name? True. And doesn't know it's new name. Look at what Rory cares about. That's nuts. He changed it.

After like seven years, though. Do you think, do you just calling your dog, like, yo, that ain't me. Why are you yelling that word? Yeah, like, yo, what are you saying? I don't know whether I should lay down, roll over. Like, look at the dog. Like, look at me.

Like who are you talking to? And how different is the name? Do you think they kept like at least a similar sound or tone to the original name? I don't think dogs care about their names. I think don't respond to like the tone. Yeah, they hear the tone of their name.

So if you say like Basley and I steal Basley and call her Paisley, and then you'll respond. It may still work out. Yeah, but if you're like, if I steal Baselian and call her Mark, now she's trans. Yeah. She had trouble responding to Basley. Mark is not working.

Fucked the whole way up. All right. Let's play this again. Take notes. Hey, guys. I'm going to keep my name anonymous because I don't know who watches the pod. And it's a very specific story. Just got for a second.

I guess to weigh in on it. It reminded me after. This is the most specific story I've ever heard in my life. And he's saying I want to be anonymous in case anyone here. Do you think anyone in this story is going to hear this and go, must be someone else? It happens all the time. Why are you anonymous? What does of what town you're from?

This may happen all the time. This is crazy. Where do you think this happened? Middle America for sure, Red State for sure. I feel like this may have happened in like Montclair, New Jersey. I was into like Connecticut. I was going to throw Connecticut. I don't think this is as far as we think of this.

This is Middle America. All right. I'm no good of Middle America love triangle. Middle America doesn't give up their dogs, so that's why I'm going with New Jersey. New Jersey don't give up their dogs. Yes, they do. Fuck no. Who you know when New Jersey gave up their dog?

a dick is a kill a dog before they give up their dog kill their wife before they kill their dog yeah or kill their wife before they give up their dog and then renaming it that ain't happening in the jersey Jersey lately they had eight dogs and they had like holiday cards in Jersey

man listen Alex had her dog in her holiday card that's funny go ahead today's IG clip that you guys are talking so two part story this dude we went to high school with he was engaged at one time they had the relationship they had a dog he cheated so the girl kept the dog and renamed it we think that's hilarious part two of that is he's now in a new uh situation where he's engaged and he has a

group chat with his friends where there's a bachelor party going on and uh he hits the bachelor bachelor's bachelor party chat saying hey bachelor party's off and the wedding's off too his friend then comes into the chat and says yeah the wedding and bachelor party are off because X, Y's B has been fucking my wife. Okay, wait, okay. I'm on step by step. I get it so far. Okay.

Go ahead. The dog thing is not very important. It's a relevant. So this guy was engaged once. Yeah. Dog left with it. He got engaged again. He was about to have his bachelor party.

He went in the group chat with all of his friends and said, yo, second time a wedding is off. A friend that was also in that group chat that was part of his bachelor party said, yeah, it's off because he fucked my wife. Meaning the guy. The guy that's in the bachelor chat. now said it's all he followed up with the weddings off guy gave reason friends said yeah your wedding's off because you fucked my wife

yeah so the groom was fucking one of his friends yes yes that's why new jersey all right all right so i think we're caught this okay let's see because it gets a little wordy here yeah the plot thickens because the wife has cancer can we what kind of cancer i'm gonna say ovarian Okay. Okay. Okay. Well, I'm going to speculate.

We're speculating. Okay. No. No. Why is that a no? Ask cancer. Why are you saying ovarian? Because woman?

Women catch all of the cancers. Okay. Breast, maybe breast first, ovarian next? Brain cancer because, you know, the logic. She got bad taste in men. Wait, hold on. Is he marrying her for like medical reasons? so he can like make decisions.

No, he's not marrying her. Oh, the way, he fucked the cancer girl? Yes. I thought. So then this, this is what, this is what introduces our scenario. Should the cancer woman be cool because in her scenario, she has cancer. So therefore, she, her pussy is good to get it all out. Fux friends girl who has cancer.

I'm still, I'm just trying to keep my friends. I feel like we just like, hack this like we broke this code, a few days ago. The dog is important here. But now we have a real scenario. Yeah, it's going to come back to the dog. The dog is somehow. Because I think I'm going to, we over skipping that dog, that context.

The dog is on Mark. We sleep. We're sleeping on Rover. And I think I'm going to change my opinion of our last conversation with the cancer thing. Okay, right. All right. Let's keep going. Another turn of events is there was a conversation at one point where both parties were having a conversation about being swingers and fucking each other.

And so. the guy went to high school's fiance or ex-fiance now was not down for that situation. The woman who got the dog. No, different. No. The new engagement. The newest fiance. Oh.

She wasn't down with a swing. You ain't even do that, man. Thank you for clarifying. Okay, let's give you. So he just went and fucked his boy's wife. So we don't kind of know where to draw the line. Is it because we had kids or what? But I want to see what you guys have to say about it.

Okay. All right. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Maris took very good notes. I don't think the friends, the scumbag we thought he was.

They had talked about the swinging thing. So he went and did what they had talked about. First of all, his fiance specifically said. He did. There was no even exchange, but he went and did what they said they were going to do. Just because you would discuss it doesn't mean go do it.

Go do it. Like, Yeah, like, I'm going to go borrow your car. You're like, no, and I just take your keys and go take your car.

It don't work like that. No, but if the four of us have cars, and your car doesn't want to be a part of it, I'm still going to go drive that other car. Okay. Even though your car is leaking oil. Because of the cancer.

That's the cancer situation. Guys, that's her uterus. Okay, wait, so... That's her uterus is sick. You're just... I heard. That's her uterus. Just the final detail.

The guy that was getting married went and fucked his friend's wife. I thought his friend was about to be upset about it, but clearly he was with it because he wanted his friend to fuck his wife. But not if he didn't get to fuck his friend's wife. We don't know the particulars of that swingers conversation. Maybe he just wanted to watch his friend fuck his wife.

Some people are into that. Hulk Hogan and all them looking at that story. I forgot about that. Story was nuts. So his wife just got mad because that's cheating because she wasn't part of the entire thing. I think the friend and wife is actually separate and doesn't really matter in this story. He wanted his friend to fuck his wife. And he went and fucked his wife.

No harm, no foul. go to the bachelor party. No harm, no foulies. That's what they wanted. It's just the wife was like, hey, when you guys were joking about that, I know, don't fuck her. I don't want your friend to fuck me. Trying to have a swinger's conversation with someone that's not into swinging. One of the most arrogant fucking things you could do and then go ahead and do it.

Yeah, like, you're with or without you, this is happening. Yeah, I'm going to, yeah. This train. You could be in front of this train or you could be behind this train. And you got to imagine, that's a bachelor. party chat, so they're about to do a bachelor party. If you're that girl and you found out that your man fucked his friend's wife,

what is going to happen at that bachelor party? If that's just some regular shit, like you just fucked your man's wife just on a Tuesday? Because is she the entertainment? Is she going with y'all? What the fuck are you going to, are y'all going to fuck each other at that bachelor party?

If swinging is some regular shit, what is the bachelor party? Yeah. See, that's why, see, yeah. shirt and shit like that. It's like, all right, bro. If I'm a homie that called in, I would try to find selfishly a way to get everybody together because this would be an incredible moment to just witness.

Get everybody together and have hidden cameras. Yeah. Yes. That's the route I'm thinking. Add us to the route. And now we got a show. Put us, yeah. Let us.

You know, people be like, take us out of the group chat, no, at us. Yeah. Let us moderate that interaction. That'd be fun. FaceTime me. I want to see. I want to be there. What city are you going?

If our show is nearby, come on stage. That is, that is, we need them on stage. And this is what I know. I wish I had better group chat. This is why I think that the home boy whose wife got fucked isn't okay with it. Because if we all are having a conversation, the four of us about swinging and your wife is like, no, it's a dub. And we all decide, okay, his wife isn't with it. We're not doing it.

But you going to fuck my wife anyway. You really, really wanted to fuck my wife. Because now it's not just like a swinger's thing where this is an even exchange and we're all having like some big ecstasy infused party. no, you went, after this conversation, went to the side and still fucked my wife. Like, you've been thinking about fucking my wife for a while. I think, no, but I think that was, I think his friend is fine with it. I think his friend was just updating the group chat of why it was over. Like, yo, no, because he, he fucked my wife.

I think he was fine with it. Yeah, I think he was totally fine with it. I think his fiancee probably went through his phone or something and found out that he fucked his friend's wife. I think the guy, the friend, and the friend's wife, all three of them were in on the fuck. They were fine with it. They were talking about swinging to begin with. She doesn't want to participate.

Still cuck shit, go fuck my wife. I just think the wife found out. And I think the friend just updated the group chat like, yo, LOL, it's because he fucked Susan. You can't L.O.L. Someone fuck my wife. Yeah, you can't L o'clock. It's not, nobody's laughing out of that. And matter of fact, show me who laughed out loud.

So you think someone, you think now you've got to laugh in that group chat. Tappled it and said, ha-ha. He's like, For sure. If it's, well, that's what group chats are for. Like, you have to laugh at trauma and pain. You have to in a group chat. I wonder what happened to the dog.

Dog just trying to figure out who they keep calling. The dog and the ex dodged the bullet is what happened. Yeah, the guy keep calling. The real winner is the dog in the ex. Yeah, the dog got the fuck away from that whole situation. Hell yeah. I mean. Well, let us know what city are you at.

We would love to talk about this in person. Yeah, let us know what city are at home. I think homewood. This is where the dog's talking. I think homeboy that called in to talk about his friends, I think he wants to fuck the ex-wife. Because why you bring her and her dog up? Like, why not even on the top of your brain? This wild-ass story is

wild enough. Why that's on the top of your brain that he used to be gay? Well, he liked the anecdote that they changed the dog's name, which I'm glad that he just felt compelled to mention that. Because he wanted to fuck that. Or he was just setting the tone of how fucked up this guy has been in every relationship.

Like, this guy is 0 for 2 in the craziest ways. Yeah, he's picking the wrong women. Call back. Tell us what the dog's name. How is he picking the wrong woman when he cheated on his wife with his friend's wife? How's he picking the wrong women? Because one of them has cancer.

Yeah, we actually... He didn't pick her. He picked the healthy one. Oh. The one with cancer, he fucked. The healthy one is crazy. He's looking at this long term. It's like a ripe avocado.

It's like an avocado. So you got to pick a. He wants to grow old with her. You gotta rub him, yeah. See, there you go. Oh, man. Okay, but can you flip that back to our conversation last episode? Do you look at your fiance and be like it was a make a wish?

Like it was her last dying. We're gonna deprive her of that? Was to have sex with you? Yeah, like she wanted to swing. You didn't care about cancer. You're not for cancer research. So I went and fucked her. I ain't even see how you did that.

We didn't even. Yeah, just say you don't care about cancer. Let me look at my homeboy when you was healthy. When you was healthy, it's funny. You wasn't always sick. Yeah, you wasn't always sick. And now what's so you looking at? Yeah.

You've been wanting to fuck him. But this puts us in a real scenario with our conversation last episode. He went and fucked a girl with cancer. Like, what stage was she? Dude, does she get the same flack that the homie does because she has cancer or people easier? You got to be easy on her. Got to be easier. And I'm not a swinger or a cuck.

But I'm trying to put myself in that mind state. If I wanted my friend to fuck my girl and she had cancer, I feel like I would need to be there to moderate. Like you're fucking my queen who has cancer. You want to make sure her safety is, like you can't wear out a cancer patient. You want to moderate a guy fucking your girl? I'm trying to put my, I don't want a guy to fuck my girl at all. I'm trying to put myself in a cuck mentality.

I care for my girl and she has cancer. I can't just like close the door. I wouldn't close the door, period, if she's cancer. The whole purpose of- Now I need to make sure my home. boy knows what to do when fucking a cancer patient. Yeah, but to Demaris's point, being a cuck implies you're in the room watching it happened.

So you'd be all hands on. Not all swinging is like that, though, right? No, no, no, no. But cucking is. You know, imagine, nigga, like, you get out now because I don't want you to see what I'm to do to your girlfriend. He can't call himself to smear. Oh, my God.

Like, imagine that. You had a swing his party and a dude is like, no, I don't want you to watch. You got to get out. That's crazy. And then your girl's like, yeah, just give us like 20 minutes. That's like the mad real world. And you actually give them 20 minutes. That's like the mad real world when Katie, the white guy's girlfriend,

and she's in the room with Lysol and Tyrese, and they kick out the white boy. She's like, no, okay, I'm okay. I'll stay. And they shut the door and fuckers. What is this? The mad real world, Dave Chappelle's, oh, yes, yes, yes, yes.

She's like, I'll stay. He's just getting ran through. The guy from Oz. I love that sketch. But can you even have, like, That's why I don't think I could ever be a swinger. You have to have, you can't have stipulations. If somebody says, you're going to go fuck your girl and closes the door.

Like, this is what you signed up for. No, you can't fuck me. Like, you can make stipulations. Like, you and your girl come up with that beforehand. Like, okay, I won't let him fuck me in the ass. Like, I won't swallow. Like, y'all can come up with those stipulations. Man, Damaris always tell me not the king's shame.

Y'all got me fucked. There's some sick niggas in this world. To walk your girl into a fucking building knowing that other niggas is about to fuck her. And you're supposed to just be like, Like, yeah, we just, Saturday night. Yeah, but you're getting pussy too. And you're not even that. You're turned down by it, man.

Well, people are turned down by it, Ma. Some people are. You're right, Demaris. And we have to start compartmentalizing these people correctly. These niggas are weird. These niggas is insane. But is it weird if it's the majority? Yes, I don't give a fuck.

A lie's a lie. Even if a majority of niggas is lying. It's still a lie. Wait, a majority of people are cucks? I need that stat. I feel like there's a lot more people who are kinky then we would. Kinky is one thing.

Yeah, this is different. Wanting someone to fuck your girl, I don't think that's, I don't think they're in the majority. Oh, I have. Kinky is me like, yo, I like kissing and sucking toes

when I'm with a girl. That ain't kinky. I mean, some people can't, they sell feet picks and all that. That's considered a kink, right? You buying Kourushu feet picks?

I'm not buying nobody's feet picks. You're talking to me? Me? You think I'm paying somebody for the pictures of their feet? Come on now. Who's what you buy? Nobody.

Stop playing with me, dog. Don't play with me like that. I'm not paying for nobody's feet picks. What about Jesus? You can see it. You got a hole of this feet too old. You just made it even with it. In the sandals.

You know, we have to start compartmentalizing these people. Like, that swingers shit, that's just a fucking umbrella to hide under to say, listen, I want to fuck other people, but I want to, like, be with you. It's not hiding on an umbrella. It's flat out saying I want to fuck other people. No, I'm saying they're hot. They put it under the umbrella of, oh, it's, you wear swingers. It's actually the most respectful way.

to want to be in a relationship and also fuck other people. It actually makes logic. It's not something I can do. It makes logical sense. A lot of, it makes the most logical sense. I think a lot of people want to fuck other people

with their partner as well. Like, I love this person. I want to be with this person for the rest of my life. But Hornily, I still want to fuck other people. Hornily is hell right. Is that a word? Can we find that?

Let's just find it. It's typing it, Julie. Let's find that. I'm going to beg that word from my next house. Yeah, let's find Hornily. It's like synonyms. Yeah, let's find Hornily.

Please, let's find Hornily. I want to find that. All right, if you want to go on a date night and you like doing miniature golf with your girl, there's other activities you may like to do with her with your life partner. Minature golf fucking other couples. Look where he just tried to compare a nigga fucking his golf. Top golf. Go on a miniature golf.

Other couple. Going to Top golf or. I'll take other couple over top golf. Top golf is awful. You would take fucking another couple over top golf? 1,000%. I'm not jacking that, man. See?

Y'all just be talking. thousand percent. Hell no. Another, another girl fucking your man? Yeah. Yeah. You hear the influxion of?

Yeah. Nah, I didn't know yet. Well, personally, I'm not here to talk about my own kinks on this podcast, but yes,

people are into those types of things. No, people are into it. It's fucking insane. Like, yeah, we're going to a swing this party. So another thing,

you don't even know this dude. See, no, that's okay. He just walking in the room, sweaty, six, four, two and change. Oh, all right.

He said your wife, been over bitch, and you just start drilling your girl. you sitting there like like you watching the Lakers game sitting Indian style yeah like what the

like that's not crazy to y'all like what the fuck are you talking about I don't care that I get the fuck his girl who is this nigga who is this nigga this doesn't feel like a fair exchange y'all keep saying yo but you get the fuck his girl I fuck that bitch

like who is this nigga man y'all just think y'all should be cool with that because it's swingers community get the fuck out of it okay but if I it's so on the same spectrum I like to fuck other women with my girl. That's still on the same spectrum as as fucking other people and when you're a couple. No, it's not.

It's the same spectrum. It's not the same thing. We know we live in a double standard world. Let's stop acting like we don't know that. It's cool if me and my girl's fucking a chick. It ain't cool if she decided to bring her boyfriend to the crib and he fucking my girl. That ain't the same spectrum though. No, it's not.

That ain't the same spectrum. It's group sex. Man, get the fuck out of it. That ain't the same. It's different. It's one thousand. A percent different from, though. Man, if a chick walk in my crib that me and my girl

like fucked together before and now she got her boyfriend with her and he back his hammer out and looked like he trying to fuck my bro, niggas is dying, bro. We're not swingers. Me and my girl have receivers. That's because you're not a swinger, but swingers exist. There's nothing wrong with singing. It's just for you.

It ain't for you. And let's compartmentalize that shit. That shit is insane. To you. Watching your girl get fucked is insane. I don't care what nobody says. Rell, you married. You go home right now.

A nigger drill of your wife. I'll never see you again. The next time I see Rell, it'll be on home wave. He'll be calling me from inside. Like, yo, Ma, I went home after the studio. Listen, I'm sorry, man.

Some niggas in there, that ain't swing of shit. You have the corling sap. Yeah, like, you think your wife like, yo, honey, we're swingers. Get the fuck out of here. That shit. Now, Rell, if you go home

and your wife is in bed with another woman, you're going to jump in the middle with that motherfucker. It's a different. Same. Same spectrum. It's a different, but it's the same.

Man, that ain't the same spectrum. It's group sex. Man, listen. It's on the same spectrum. It is. It's drastically different. And niggas that had Christa 300 thought they was

Bentley's too. Until a Bentley pull up next to that motherfucker. If that's misogynistic, then yes I am. That's fine. And that's all it's just a prefect, misogy. I'm king massage.

No, the only thing I've ever said. Ain't nobody fucking my girl. I like group sex, but I'm straight. So I don't want guys there. I'm king massage. But listen, it's the thing. I still like group sex.

I don't think that it's misogynistic that you won't let somebody fuck your girl. That's your own choice. Like that's not what you're into. But to say that those two situations who are, they're actually the same exact in reverse. To say that they're different.

So then they're not the same. No. What you put reversing it? That changes the whole thing. So it's not the same. That's what I'm trying to tell you. That's not the same. If I go in that kitchen and eat your apple

and then you go in that kitchen and drink my fucking orange juice that I had in there, those are different scenarios. That's not the same exact. thing? Yeah, it's different scenario. Consuming.

I dread juice. A lot. This one's a solid. Yeah. It's a whole different scenario. All right. If a man and woman fuck and two guys fuck, it's different, but both parties fucked. It's the same spectrum.

It's the same spectrum. It's just different. See, well, with that, this is the thing. Because with that, you can bring religion in and people can say that one is against nature or against God. I always want to bring Jesus in the better. So you can't say that those two things are the same thing. I'm saying if we're both in a relationship.

and we both fuck the opposite gender. Those are two equal things. It's okay to not be okay with it. It's okay to say it's not for you. But to say that one is worse than the other is what makes it misogynistic. We're not saying worse. If somebody wants to swing, go fucking let your freak flag.

Right. I don't care. Go swing. Listen, if you enter that, you have a long lasting relationship. All I said was let's just start compartmentalizing this shit. That's all. Do what you want to do.

But we're not going to sit here and act like that's just like, oh no, that's, that's, that's normal. No, it's not. You've just been conditioned by societies. Fuck you. Right. Yeah. But, that's all you think. You think everyone is a possession. What if your girl's having sex

with other women, but you're not allowed to be involved? It's she, or she's, it's, you know, open, but she just gets to fuck women. You don't get to join her. What are you asking me? Like I'm saying, you're this, in your fantasy in the group sex scenario,

you walk in, sorry, rail to bring you up again. But in the rel walks in, sees his wife in bed with a woman, you said, rel jumps in the middle of that bitch and gets it cracking. What if when you walk in the room, the wife doesn't want you to join it. To get out.

I'm just licking box on my own time. You're not welcome. Okay. I have a question. Okay. Well, I get out the room. I'm going to go lick some box too. I have a question in this scenario. He said, grabbed a camera. Do I know the woman? No. Then I'm going to have an issue with a stranger

being in my house, but if I know the woman, like, have a boss. No, if it's Yomi, you have no problem with it. Why are we adding the staff in all these scenarios? There's so many women. I already know that Yomi, Keio already wanted to fuck Yomi after the Cizzer Show. It's like, like, stop trying to bring back PTSD. Nah, but I've been in a situation like that before where a dude caught the girl he was fucking with getting aiding out by another girl that we knew.

So I, and he was tight about that. Niggas, yeah. I know men that have been saying. They're not really okay with that. I'm fine with it. I'm fine with it. If you have just some strange woman in my house, I'm going to just, have a separate issue with what's going.

But if she had mentioned to you before, like, she dropped. I think even if it's a girl, you know, you're going to have an issue with it. But I know about it? No, like you walk in and your girl's getting eaten out by another girl, you know. I think that you'll have an issue with that if, if they don't let you join. From Rip, I'm going to try to join. And if I'm told no, of course, like naturally. Oh, like a Republican.

Of course. They would. What? You wouldn't even get a soccer. No, if I'm a Republican, that's gay, gay. You wouldn't even get a sock off. You'd open that door. She'd say, get the fuck out. And you'd be like, okay, and go right back out. And then you're tired. If I tried and they said, no, I would then say, we'll talk about this later.

I would close the door because let me finish it. Can I finish? Can I finish? Can I finish? I'm no. I was listening. I don't know why she got Joe if she threw a cat. You don't need to throw the cap when you cap. You can just say the word. You don't need to throw it. No, that's the emphasis. I'll talk about this later. Close the door. And she continues. and you's moaning. Get the fuck out of here, bro. You're not a let's talk about it later, guy. Can I finish my fucking statement? I'm here with you. I'm trying to hear the rest of me. Why I would say that the first time is because what's the opposite of pessimistic?

Optimistic. I'm optimistic in that situation that after we have that combo, maybe this could be a thing. I could be wrong. That could be a wish that is so far-fetched. But if I walk into my girl, fucking a girl that I know, and I try to join, they say no, I'm going to walk back to the kitchen like, No, there's hope still. Maybe one day I can join this. No, I know you're not. After the second time, now I have an issue. You're going to be like, now, get out.

No, no, not doing that. There's hope. What do you, Obama's campaign? You're not, you're a closer door and go and make a turkey sandwich? Yeah. Get the, by your girls getting her fucking oyster licked? Great. You're going to go change Marr's diaper.

If they're five feet away. No matter what he's doing in the house, he ain't, he don't know what he, he gets, the TV can be on. I would have an issue if she's fucking some girl leaving a bar in the living room. He got a big ass circus. in on this big trying to hear in the fucking room. Yeah, like, yeah, like, yeah, like, yeah, like, yeah, like, yeah, like, yeah, that's crazy. And I'm a beat off.

That's crazy. That's crazy. That's wild. You guys wouldn't have hope in that situation for the first time? Hell of hope. If my girl told me to get out. Like, if you knew it was happening before you got home, yes. But if you go home right now and Amara with a babysitter and Kia getting eight out.

Is Amar in the house? She knows. She's with a babysitter. Like, okay. Well, first I'll be like Your girl getting ate out while the baby's The babysitter I'm putting her to sleep The first issue out of like we didn't agree on

How we're using the babysitter? How come when I want to do shit We can't get the babysitter But now you got the babysitter I want some head too I could call the babysitter get some head. Like what the babysitter give me head Right, exactly

What? Anyways Happens a lot Yeah, I watch porn That happens all the time All the time Your search bar might be crazy That's sick

I know you guys don't believe me I'm being truthful. If I walked in on that and knew the girl and was told to leave I would leave fine in the beginning then I would talk with Kia and be like all right so what's up? If you're going to do this I'm either joining or we need to have some understanding.

Nah, if she banging it on you, you're not welcome. I'm kind of fine with her fucking a girl she wants to fuck. So if Kea went got a girlfriend, you would be fine with it. A girlfriend? That's so different. What to fuck? Yeah, look how DeMaris keep pushing that

motherfucking bar. Like, yo, relax. You know what's funny? Relax. Go get a whole girlfriend. I think I might take that over just some girl she's fucking. Because I would sit with the girlfriend so we could split up responsibilities. Why we just can't, we got all this shit in here. All this shit. All this equipment we pay for, Rory.

And niggas don't want to keep it real. You're not cool with your girl having a fucking girlfriend. Can we split the responsibilities? What you mean? What would you like to give up? Let's ask that question. Yeah. responsibilities would you no longer like to be in charge of?

Emotional support. So you just want you just want the girlfriend to have to deal with all the emotional shit. Anytime she's in a mood, it's your turn. It's your turn. Oh, so one of her friends. That's a hell of a bargain right there. I ain't going to lie.

Is everyone on my side now? Oh, I'm on your side. He just made it tough. That's not fair pussy exchange. That's 100%. You could, hey, if she got to, if she can just, all she can do is complain to you and you got to just lick her pussy, I ain't going to lie.

man, it's hard for me to walk away from that baby. I might sign that contract. I might be like, you know what? It's all good. I like to eat pussy. So we'd have to be 50-50 on the- yeah, yeah. The pussy part, but I'm kind of fine with it.

But we got to do it like we did during COVID. It got to be like our own little, like you can't just be licking like a bunch of other pussies in and come lick my girl. That's fair, yeah. You can't be a whore. She can't be like a whore. You got to be like, you know what I mean? This is just something.

This is just your girlfriend and like, you know what if she had, what if you're not about to lick goner into my girlfriend. So what if, no swing or shit, but your girl's girlfriend has a boyfriend. Y'all don't, obviously, y'all don't mix, mingle, no nothing, but she is in a committed relationship with your girl and her man and you're in a committed relationship with you and your girl. Is he a Knicks fan? Nats.

Like, is there things that we can, like, Nets fan? We can go out and hang. Is it a guy that I'd like to hang out with? That's weird. You would want to get to notice, dude. That's weird. See what I'm saying? We got all this shit in here.

We got all this. This shit. That's fucking weird. And niggas don't be keeping it real. It's all I'm saying. You don't want to get to know that nigga, man. Fuck that nigga. Roe, you're in a long-term relationship.

If you could get a break and hang and have some pause guy time to just do some guy shit with a guy you get along with. And y'all wives want to just go fuck and leave us alone? Holy shit, that would be amazing. So y'all might as go back out on each other and do y'all thing at that point. I just want to watch Jalen Brunson. What the fuck? Get the fuck out of here.

Hell, I'm not hanging out with the boyfriend of the girl that's... What if I like him? That slid off with my girl and they fucking and me and homie here and said, yo, the Lakers might take it all this shit. I ain't going to lie. Get the fuck out of here. As opposed to what? When you have...

Nick, go with your other friend. I was going to say, hey, Roy, you can like hang with me. He's like, why don't... Go get some pussy, nigga? Like, go where your sides at? No, but see, no. I lost the baby senator to get. Let me guess.

The nigga, he got to be faithful. He can't have a side. In this scenario, yeah. In this scenario? In the scenario, yeah. The scenario, the woman can choose like that with women. I don't like that cheap. I don't like that.

You haven't been in relationships. You guys have been in relationships and had to hang out with the guy that was dating your girlfriend's friend. It's fucking weird. And I'm saying if I like the guy. That's different. That's different. No, that's different. I don't like a lot of guys.

So if we have a bond. Stop. Don't try to do that. Because now you're trying to drive your point on. You're lying. We're talking about if that dude, if that dude's girl is fucking your girl. Not if your girl or my girl is like. like best friends and they just like cool.

Shit, we can do this every weekend. Of course, of course in that case. Puff said it. Of course in that case, you're cool with your, your girlfriend's,

best friends, man, y'all, y'all gonna be around each other. But if now you're throwing the mix that they fucking each other, I don't want to be cool with that nigga. But what?

What I'm trying to be cool with him for? Nah. Why my girl and your girl's fucking me and you ain't gonna be hanging out? Okay, so hold on. So let's, what if they were already cool? And I'm saying,

what if he's cool? What if they were already cool? I'm not saying he could be cool, but we're not going to be hanging out. No, but what if we were already hanging out? We were already cool and then our girls started fucking each other. Yeah, but then I'm going to- To me, that's weirder. Yeah, like that's way weirder.

Because then that sounds like, because now it sounds like, because now at this point, you know, we might as well fuck each other's girl. At this point? Nah. Nah, it's a little different. So our girls is fucking. Okay. They look, they in a crib licking each other's saddlebags to fucking.

We're not there. We're not, we're not haters. We're not there. No, we don't got to be there. But we know when they're together. He has season tickets. Yeah, but we know when they're together. Ew, not you.

That's what I'm saying. That's date shit. That's date shit, yo. Undercard. That's date shit. That's like, yo, we're on a date. Our girlfriends is in the house fucking each other. And we at the garden.

You taking her seat? Ew. What is that? She's taking my seat? Hey. Hey, no. He got a point. Got a point.

It's a fair exchange. No, it ain't fair. Hardwood versus the Nima. I'm going to get my, I'm going to get some pussy on the side. Fuck it. All right. Let's take out. Let's not do that because in this, in this scenario, a lot of women will say like,

you should have just told me. Like, for example, you could tell your girl, yo, you could go fuck girls, but you ain't fucking no nigger. And this is the same thing with you like, you can't go. I mean, you can't fuck no girl. See what I just said. It's a double standards. My girl can't say, my girl can't say, you can go fuck niggas, but you can't

fuck no girl. Yeah. What girl goes to matter? Stop playing with you. See, we got all this shit in here. Stop playing. It's mad girls. It ain't mad girls.

It ain't no mad. Stop putting mad in front of that shit. There's not mad girls. That's cool with they nigga going to fuck another nigga over fuck. See what we doing it here? It's mad girls. That's cool with their men going to fuck another man. There are plenty of bisexual men in open relationships.

Yes. Just because it ain't for you and it ain't around you. No, I'm just saying it's not mad. I think you're missing. The word mad. It's not mad. Mad of them. Like, we exist.

For sure. I'm not saying it don't happen. Of course it happens. You're just not in that community. So it's not for you to know. You're not in that community. Yeah. It's okay to know that things happen

outside of your worldview. 100. Your worldview and who you are around does not set the tone for the entire of America. I didn't say that. What I'm telling you is that it's not mad girls that's sending a nigga out there

to fuck another nigga and say, yo, you could go get some dick, but you can't get no pussy. There's actually mad girls that would call him gay. Like, that's not a thing. now not saying it doesn't happen because we know that it happens

but it's not like a mad Do you know any situations where this is happening? No, because that ain't my worldview, baby. That is your world, you gay. No, I'm not saying because you're, but sometimes. You're hanging out with people. What do you mean? Like not you.

No, I tend to hang around misogynistic homophobic people like y'all. I don't really go. Homophobic? I don't really go spread my wings. Oh, Julian's homophobic. Me? Of this whole part, I'm the homophobic one.

I'm going to the Knicks game with my homeboy. I'm the furthest thing from homophobic. Yeah, you might be closer to gay. You're closer to gay, actually, then you're all homophobic, yeah, for sure. No, we're like the gays that like sports. Oh, that's fine. Hiding in the sports.

Go Nix. Go Nix go. Our favorite player is Dwight Howard. See. March 23rd. We are in Howard Theater, Washington, D.C. We're in Howard Theater, Washington, D. Yeah, not saying.

March 23rd. Howard Theater, new Rory Mall.com. Tickets available now. We'll see y'all soon in D.C. All right, man, let's finish this up on Patreon. I feel like we could laugh a little bit more. We got some conspiracy to talk about over there, too. On Patreon?

I'm excited. Oh, man. The Boeing guy who just got offed? The Boeing. The Boeing Airplane guy. I thought you were like, Alec Baldwin got killed. No, he does the kill. Right, exactly.

He's a shooter. All right, well, we head over to Patreon. Finish this conversation. We'll talk to y'all soon. Be safe. Be blessed. Have a great weekend. and I'm that nigga. He's just ginger. Peace. No, whoa.

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