New Rory & MAL - Episode 255 | A Mule On The Wall

Episode Date: March 29, 2024

We picked a great week to plan a vacation. Before we get into the big stories we cover the DC show and the fight that broke out. After the show everyone went on vacation. Demaris was throwing cheeks in Turks and Rory was in Miami taking helicopter rides over Diddy’s house. Diddy’s homes were raided and we predict what’ll happen to everyone involved (15:02). If you missed our three hour Twitter Spaces (available on YouTube) we get into the short term aftermath of Kendrick’s verse (56:38). When will everyone respond and who will come out on top? Unfortunately, the real victim here is Big Sean (1:54:59). While we were recording Ye decided to post on Instagram and comment on the current beef (2:09:16). We briefly talked about Beyonce’s album (2:14:45). Then it’s time for the guys to make fun of Julian’s pen game again (2:19:10). It’s time for our voicemail (2:23:49). We try to help our guy get out of the game and get a girl. Tune in as the guys discuss all of this + more!This episode is sponsored by BetterHelp. Give online therapy a try at https://betterhelp.com/rorymal and get on your way to being your best self!Follow Rory: @ThisIsRoryFollow MAL: @MAL_ByTheWayFollow Demaris: @DemarisAGiscombeFollow Julian: @Julian__nicholas To watch the podcast on YouTube: https://bit.ly/NewRoryAndMALYouTube Don’t forget to follow the podcast for free wherever you're listening or by using this link: https://bit.ly/NewRoryAndMAL Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoicesSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

This is an I-Heart podcast. Guaranteed Human. He added that performative energy. If you're out, you can kind of get those lyrics. Because, you know, everybody in the club, they got a hop. You know, everybody in a club, they got it. And everyone can go, ah. Yeah, exactly.

I ain't like that, but everybody can do that. That was crazy. No. Hey, last night took your hell. Wake up every morning by the time I count stacks. Knew that ass was real when I hit it bounce back. Hold up. Yeah, you ain't getting checks.

Swurr, swurb. Last night took a L, but tonight I bounced back. Boy, I've been broke as hell. Cast a chicken bounce back. D-Town LAX every week I bounce back. If you're a real one then you know how to bounce back, bitch. Hey. Oh, man, I feel like I haven't seen any of you in so long.

Well, it's been. It's been a few days. Like five or six days. I saw you Sunday. Sunday, yes. But today is Thursday. Today's 28th, I believe. March 28th.

Yes, we are back. We are back in the studio. landed this morning in sunny Newark. Sunny Newark. Or as my grandmother would say. It's a beautiful 46 degrees in raining outside right now. I was a little nervous that my flight would be delayed and I wouldn't get here on time. But I made it.

I'm glad you made it. You seemed like you got some sun. You got a little color to you. I was in the shade for the most part. But I did have to step outside at some point in Miami, you know, doesn't do great with my complexion. I was out there. I was on South Beach. I went to Sowell House.

So you go to every city and do the same shit you do home. All right. You're one of those guys. Like you find what you know at home. Like, okay, the Soul House here. You're not wrong. Is there, I, can I get a good beer? Like, you're one of those guys.

Well, I never been to the Soul House, Miami one is different because they have like a section of the beach, like cut off on South Beach. Yeah. So you can like go out and sit and like, you know, they waitress. You can scoff at the poor people that can't get through the sand that you're on. I don't know, man. South Beach is a pretty crazy range of finances, I feel like. I feel like there's way more poor people on South Beach now than there's rich people. I mean, there's way more.

Things have shifted. There's way more poor people in the world. Like, well, I mean, if you put it that way. Yeah. Some of those. I can't argue that. Some of those people you saw on South Beach, they had condos last year. Like even the Versace mansion now, like, looks a little bandoish.

All of South Beach looks like 1985 to me. They haven't really updated shit. You stopped at another house on South Beach. We're not on South Beach, but in Miami. Roy was doing a house tour in Miami Well, I mean, we can get to that Should we recap the DC show first? Thank you to everyone that came out to the DC show

I'd like to properly tell us. I'm so ready to get into that. Come on. Thank you to everybody that came out to the DC show from the DMV area because it was people, we can't just say DC, it was people from all over Baltimore, Virginia. Shout out to the, we had our first fight.

I think the first fight ever in live podcasting history. Yeah, we had We had the first fight. We should check with the Guinness Book of World Records. I think we did something groundbreaking. Yeah. That no one thought, we thought fighting at an R&B show was crazy. Yeah, no, fighting at a podcast, a live podcast is like next level.

So here's how it happened. First of all, rewind a little bit. The gentleman that was on stage that ended up getting into the fight. He was on stage. Shout out to Tequila Talk. They opened for us in D.C. again. So he was on stage with them. And he was talking, whatever.

We were offstage, get ready to go on, waiting to go on after Tequila Talk got done with their set. And so the gentleman got off. But you know, you can't really hear what's going on the stage. You can't hear the audience. So he walks right up to me like, yo, mom, man, they booed me, man. They booed me off the stage. I looked at him. I was like, I didn't know what they were doing. So I thought maybe he was trying to rap, spit some bars and they booed him. I didn't know. I was like, damn, you know, I just gave him the damn kid. Like, yo, you know, hang in there. You know, I gave him one of those. You know what to keep your head up. Like, I don't know what to say. Talk to Rory. He bombs all the time on stage. Yeah. So as he walks away from me to go

back out into the audience, he goes to the side door. He says something that's very familiar if you're from the hood and you know some shit is about to happen. He said, I, watch. I might have canceled the show if I heard that. But I ain't paid no. I'm like, he's walking to the car. I'm like, I know what I watch mean where I come from. Don't know what it means down here in the DMV.

Right. So I'm like, okay. He was like, I, watch. Cool. So we go on stage. You start doing our set. And as we're talking. We're talking about the whole, you know, Drake and his history of battle

and things like that. So we started talking about Drake and Meeks battle. And as we're talking about that, that... Maybe 10 minutes and you would say? Maybe 10 minutes. As we're talking about that, you start seeing everybody getting up and kind of like... Because the chairs were like fold-wheel chairs, so you can move the chairs. So like, you see people getting up pushing chairs, but everybody looks like they're looking at the ground.

So initially, I thought maybe a rat ran in the venue. But it was a little dark too So we couldn't fully see in the back Yeah, because you can't really see But I'm seeing people run And they're looking at the ground So I'm like, oh, maybe somebody saw a rat running through the venue

You know, people see a rat running in their venue They're getting up, they're moving out the way Yeah Then we learn the gentleman And the security guard were on the floor Tustling No did he So I think

I immediately said He must be a dream chaser Just try to make fun of the whole Drake-Mick situation we were talking about. But we didn't think it was a real fight. We thought maybe, you know, somebody's just having words. Oh, no, then most security started to come and help the other

security guard. And as they were picking him up off of his feet, carrying him out, he was still trying to swing on a security guard. And then he went on his IG live and he... Well, he broke free. I'll give him some credit. He did break free for like a second and then was quickly yoked up within four or five seconds after that. He gave a good attempt.

We still don't exactly know what started the entire security versus him beef. I'm guessing he was maybe drunk and, you know, it was bothering people sitting around him, being too loud, belligerent, and they had security come get him, and maybe he didn't want security touch him. You know, don't touch me.

You know, don't touch me. You know, I'll fight after that. So I'm thinking it was one of those, but the fact that it happened at our show is insane. Yeah, I was on Twitter, and I refreshed the Twitter feed just to see, like, okay, to see if the show is going smoothly. And then it was like six tweets in a row.

like, yo, there's a fight. They broke out. They swing and all that. I was like, so then I screenshot of that. And I was like, what the fuck is going on? Listen, man. And I didn't hear what it called me after the show? Because obviously you guys still had to do the show.

And it's like, what the hell? The show didn't really skip a beat. And like, that just speaks to the DMV area. Everyone just kind of moved out the way. Yeah. And then just kept watching the show. Just kept watching the show laughed about it. Put their chair back.

Put the chairs back. Put the chairs back. Everybody sit down. But aside from that, it was a great show. Great crowd. Thank God. Everyone was okay, too. I was hoping a young lady that bought her newborn son on stage when we were there maybe two years ago.

Yeah. I was hoping she came back with her son so we could see him being that. Being one? Well, you know, he was six weeks when we met him. He was only six weeks old. So I was hoping that she came back. He might be with a new family, though. Rory.

See, that's hate. That's crazy. That's anti-black, because Demaris was that. Anti-Black is funny. That's racist for calling that answer black. Maybe he's. with the new family is crazy. All right.

That's sick. I thought it was cool at the time. But now that you have a... Now that I'm just thinking about, like having a six week old on it bringing to a live show and on stage is kind of nuts. Yeah.

In retrospect. Well, we said that then. We were kind of shocked and... Just now it feels even weirder. Well, it's different because you have a baby now. Germs, everything, that would just terrify me. Yeah. Was it weird that they were at this show

or that they were on stage? Both, honestly. Both. Matter of fact, couldn't be on stage if she wasn't at the show. I think on stage was the safest place for her to be. That's true. I'm actually glad she spent the entire show on that couch

with her baby. We have marshmallow. If the fight breaks, like, all right, let's put her in this show. What if she's next to that fight with a six-week-old? True. Yeah, but you bought your baby to the show. I was backstage in the green room. I'm not talking about that show. We had marshmallow outside

pretty early. That's true. Oh, you're talking about that. That's still different, though, because we don't, we're not in the GA. I mean, he sounded like a dick when he said it, but that would have been my reply as well. Like, no, because I know the show we went to together at Bowery, like, we were communicating with all of the security ahead of time.

We got escorted ahead of time. We took an elevator up. Like, we're not just dragging this fucking baby through a show. You know, the murder was, we were pretty much delivered her to the VIP section. And then we waited for the whole venue to clear out and then we left. Like, it was very nice. He's right. It does sound pretentious, but you are right.

God, kill me. I'm an asshole. I was all my dude. I mean, either way, the D.C. show was great. Crowd was amazing. Everyone that came on stage was cool. Meeting greets were a lot of fun. Had a lot of fun with the crowd, man. Thank you to everybody from the DMV area that came out to the Howard Theater.

Thank you to the staff at the Howard Theater. Thank you to security. And thank you to the guy that got into a fight for giving us, you know, the first fighting podcast, live podcast history. I think we got to check. So I was kind of on like, not really on his side per se, because I really didn't know what happened. But, you know, I have a.

temper and a problem with authority. So I can understand some type of squabble with security. I've been in situations like that. The show continued on. It's like he ruined the show. But then I get back to the hotel and he's explaining the situation, which again is fine. But he threw in a shot that was like, I think maybe I just got kicked out because I was making everyone laugh more than the people that were on stage.

I'm like, you paid for a ticket to come here. And you only gave us three minutes to talk. he said now I got spiced this shit up a little okay I didn't get the shot I don't think it was necessary but you know he didn't get refunded no hopefully he bought some merch find his live he tagged me in it

yeah I think he added it so I'll find anything on social media with me that's hilarious yeah he tagged us I looked at it for a second I just laughed and and that was it but um overall great show had a great time in DC thank you to everybody next day we went um to

Nucci's front porch. Nucci. We had the first podcast live fight, and then we had the first podcast ever on the front porch with our guy Nucci. That should be out very soon, but it was fun to do that. Then I made the biggest rookie move. I was almost embarrassed. I didn't think I was going to tell anyone.

I went to the wrong airport. How? How embarrassing? I didn't, and this is, I drive to D.C. I think I've flown into D.C. and out of D.C. once or twice in my entire life. I only know the greatest president of all time Ronald Reagan. That's the only airport I know.

I didn't know the, like, that's their LaGuardia. I didn't know they had a JFK. Like the real airport. So I leave- But DCA is, that is Ronald Reagan, I believe. Yeah, Ronald Reagan is, that's their international airport. So that's the one I went to. Apparently, I needed to go to the bigger airport,

which is like Washington International or something. Washington DC. Washington Duck or some shit. Dulls? Dulls. That's in Maryland. No, that's in Dulles. Dulles is in Maryland, right?

All right. So you guys are actually making me feel better. No, Dallas is, yeah, that's a, that's big. But that's in Maryland, though. Yeah. So I, but all right, sometimes when you fly out of Newark, it'll say NYC, even though you're not. So I leave Nushies, get to the airport.

I'm like, oh, I'll be able to eat, chill for a second, go to the kiosk, type in my little number to check my bags, just in huge letters. I didn't even know this existed in the kiosk. You are at the wrong airport. Leave. Yeah. Oh, yeah.

They're not that close to each other either. No. Especially not on a Sunday with Sunday traffic. I just made my flight to ruin my girl's birthday while she had a screaming toddler with her for an hour and a half. Oh, that would have been. Thank God the two women that were there, like held it to the last minute so we could even check our bags. I was like, oh, this is off to an amazing start. It's gonna be the worst fucking trip ever.

Were you on your Karen shit? You're like, hold that flight. I didn't have time to do my Karen shit. I was just in traffic being a Karen to the Uber driver. Oh God. Oh, God. I hate that. No, he was really nice.

He actually, more immigrant. He was nice. I don't want to snitch on him. I'm not going to say his Uber tag. He had me take out the stickers out his window so he could go to like the regular drop-off entrance and not the Uber Lyft one. So he was nice. Oh, okay. Everyone looked out and it worked out.

Well, good, because that would have been. been a whole other story had you missed that flight. So next day, he is actual birthday. Surprise her like with this helicopter ride through Miami. Yeah. We're going up South Beach doing the whole tour. Like, this is where the dolphins play. And like, you know, he's doing the whole tour guide shit.

Yeah. A few hours before that, I had refreshed my phone to see that there happened to be a Homeland Security raid at P. Diddy's L.A. home and Miami home. Mm-hmm. So I said over the little speaker thingy, hey, if we have like a few minutes, I don't know if you're allowed to do this. Like, do you have free range to fly anywhere? He's like, where do you want to go?

I was like, do you ever heard of Star Island? He's like, yeah, I know exactly where that is. Why do you want to go there? I just want to check something out real quick. Veers are left. Go over and I just see nothing but fucking sirens, fucking homeland security covered over his crib, over Star Island. I'm like, oh, this shit is for real, for real.

Oh, you thought it was just a timeline thing? It was still new at that point. Like there hadn't even been TMZ footage like that yet. And I just happened to have good timing to be in a helicopter. You had the first footage of actual raid at the Star-A-Lahom. I did not send it to TN. You took a rope. You said, drop the rope here and you rappel down.

And you got into the homeland guys. Like, I got it from here, pal. It does go to show, though, like, how it's based of helicopters are. Where we said, pull in a little close, I'll just be a fly on the wall. Right. Right. And this loud-ass helicopter. It is loud-ass helicopter.

They'll never know where I spend New Year's Eve. Just lower it right there. I have clearance here. Holding the rope with Amar in his other hand. Nasty times. I mean, I don't know. Does that make me weird? It was my first time ever in a helicopter.

We happened to be right next to Star Island. It's pretty historic. You know, you pay a lot of money for those things. I thought I could give direction. Yeah, it's better than seeing BBLs from afar. Yeah, you'd think I was a Karen at the airport. I was a Karen in the helicopter. Sir, I don't care what the wind is right now.

I have to go see Puff South. I don't care if it's a no-fly zone. Get us over there. If we get shot down. I was shocked that there wasn't more helicopters. I think that's why we were like so early on the whole thing. But it was interesting to watch. Well, it was interesting to watch all of this unfold.

As everyone knows, Diddy's homes and properties in New York, L.A. and Miami were rated by Homeland Security. Was that Monday? It was Monday, yes. Monday? and a lot of reports have come out. You know, a lot of people are speaking out about it. So here we ought to give our take on all of the information that we have and all of the things that have transpired over the last few days.

I mean, my biggest surprise, honestly, was not that the cops or anyone rated Puff's Crip. Like, we all speculated after these reports were coming out. We didn't even know if that little rod thing was fully true. some of the paperwork a little funny in the light but so many people were coming out and not everything was getting settlements and was talking about crimes wasn't shocking that he may be arrested

Homeland Security though rating three of your houses to me is way crazier than I could have ever expected At the same damn time I could really see Puff getting arrested cool but Homeland Security with a report that it could be for sex trafficking

is fucking insane This is you know I'm seeing people talk about it online and, you know, different platforms that are talking about it. This, um, this is something that we've never, never seen in our culture. I'm old enough to remember when the feds rated, uh, Neverland. Same. Um, I remember what that felt like.

This is a little different though, because number one, this is, uh, we're talking about one of the kings of our culture, someone that we appointed and as one of our kings of our culture, somebody that I'm old enough to remember a lot of y'all here a little younger than me. So y'all don't really understand the impact that Puff has had on the culture per se. But this is, it doesn't get much in our culture, it doesn't get much bigger than Diddy. We don't know Puff is not arrested. He's not under arrest. His lawyer released a statement saying he is cooperating with the investigation.

it didn't appear that way at first. I mean, we don't know the reports of his plane going from L.A. to Antigua. Like, he was then, I saw some report from, like, a reputable platform that was like he's then going to go to Cape Verde after that, like, this whole running plan. That's, that's what, see, that's the dangerous part of social media. Because verified checks you can buy now, so it doesn't really matter what you say. That. Now you're verified. And, you know,

Fuff could have had this vacation planned for weeks. True. You could have had a family vacation plan for weeks. You could have had business going on. But if your house gets rated, are you still like, yeah, let's go to Antigua for,

you know, a little R&R. Or do you pack up all your shit that you have and run to that, to Van Nuys with your computers? But he wasn't even on the jet. So then the question becomes,

what is he moving? Well, that's why I wanted to, follow up with what mall has said with Homeland Security. They were either knew exactly what they were looking for or trying to get something not to go out to the public. Swear this isn't me putting my tinfoil hat on. But when Homeland Security is involved,

yes, this could be some type of way to make sure things are not grabbed by the regular police, state troopers. It does need to be in their possession because as we know, Puff Rubbs, shoulders with a lot of people that have a lot to lose. Yeah. And to know that Puff has cameras in every single room of every single house, years and years of security footage, who knows what's on the laptops.

There's already been witnesses talking about the party directly to the feds. There could also be a world that they were grabbing shit to make sure it doesn't come out. And Puff may have to be the face of the downfall. He already has too much nasty shit on his job. jacket. He's probably done a lot of shit wrong. It's an easy target and he's rubbed shoulders with so many people that are outside of this culture, just in general. The downfall, the fall guy.

That's what I think. I don't think, because of course we saw nothing but conspiracies over the entire week. Like we've said on this podcast, I personally think Puff has done a lot of nasty shit that he needs to pay the price for. I don't know just in my gut feeling that he is in that pedophile ring that everyone's put to Epstein shit is. Do I think he's done some nasty sexual assault, borderline rape, disgusting things with people of age? Sure. And he needs to see his day in court for those.

I don't know if this is the pedophile thing that they're trying to make this Homeland Security raid look like. I think there's been some people he's been around that are into that type of shit. Who said this is pedophile? Oh, there's two sides of the internet. The left and the right. The entire right, if you even would watch some of what Fox News was saying, everyone is convinced that this is attached to the Obamas, the Epstein's, and the pedophile ring.

That's what that whole side is believed. I think that's a ridiculous, I think bolstering that is ridiculous. Like, it's very intentional they said it was for sex trafficking. Now, most people put sex trafficking. with minors. That's what they typically go hand in hand with. We're dealing with the media. The media's stupid.

So everyone's going to think, especially these days, that Puff is under accusations of sex trafficking with minors because that's just what people think these days. Now, I don't think that a lot of people understand what sex trafficking is. Myself included. Well, sex trafficking literally can be... Fucking at a red light.

If I have a tour bus and I have a show And we meet some women at the show. And we bring them on the tour bus. And, you know, we have a show in D.C. And we drive back to New York. Hold them against their will with- Well, not hold them. Not even that.

You just move the body across state lines. And then now I have other friends in New York that I introduced this girl to. And it's like they have sex with her. And it's like, you know, we may compensate her, send a little wire transfer, you know, whatever, whatever. Yo, we're going over here. Come out here and me some, like, you know. Because a lot of people. would think sex trafficking is literally see a girl jogging down the street and pull up in a white

van snatch her throwing in the van and fucking like that's not what it is that's that's a crime that's a crime as well but it can also be as simple as there's a spectrum of it get on my tour bus we go to another city and more of my friends we all have sex with each other like well i believe one one case that came out around the cassie time was a woman i think she was in michigan or something and she had photos of her and Puff like in the studio and I told a story that Puff flew her out and then who's the president bad boy?

Harf, Harf. The two of them I guess raped her or something along those lines. That could very well be what this rate is for. Because she did come out name, face everything, and evidence and that could be sex trafficking

to what you're saying. They flew her from Detroit or whatever the fuck it was to where they were and a sexual assault happened. I think that this is this is a case of there may have been because now we've learned that there are cameras

in the rooms I think this may be a case of some high profile people being on those cameras having sexual intercourse with whoever and they just could not risk that coming out

like we know the lawsuit that Little Rod has in place and we know the names that he has stated in those lawsuits those are some very serious names it doesn't get much bigger than some of those names

that are in that lawsuit So when Homeland Security moves the way they did, that's one of the highest levels of the government that costs a lot of money. Again, this is a tactical team that went in. These are the same niggas that went and got Osama. Like this is that level of, you know, tactics and force. And, you know, we're talking about Dittie's houses with his kids. It's not like there were any violent crimes. It's not like there were, you know, reports of it being grenade.

aids and guns and things like that. Well, no, there was a lot of reports of Diddy having illegal guns everywhere. Well, you can have guns in your home. I think this was a little illegal guns. Crazy and not illegal, but a lot of it was for show, of course, as we've seen in the past. Be clear, this is this is definitely a show. This is definitely a show of force, a show of, you know, your Diddy, but stay in your place. Like, you're not bigger than the.

program. You're not bigger than the system. Okay, but what happens? Okay, I get on that. Like, what do you guys think what's going to happen to Diti? What is your prediction? Will he get arrested? What is, what are the ramifications? Will he flee? Pull a Russell? I don't think, no, I don't think he'll flee. I don't think he'll flee.

I do think he will be arrested. I do think that he will be brought up on some charges. But again, his lawyer released a statement saying that he is cooperating. He is not holding them from any part of their investigation.

He's allowing them to search properties, do whatever, you know. I mean, he can't. Judging by... Even if he wanted to, he couldn't. To answer your question, direct, I would have to say, judging by the evidence that we know and the evidence that we can just speculate because they did this, I think Diddy's going to say me the bull this entire thing. I think he's going to take the whole show now.

Well, if he... I don't think Puff is sitting in jail for the rest of his life. I think Puff has shown us that he's extreme. selfish, I think he would tell you he's extremely selfish. I don't think Puff is not going to be around his kids. I think he's taking the whole business down with him if he has to go. But that's the other side. He's not going to be the fall guy for this.

This is the other side of this that I don't think people are realizing and touching on. Puff has maybe, and he's in a position now where he can really take down a lot of people, a lot of powerful people. It's the Epstein position. Yeah, but then, okay, so we're going to go that route, you know, I do, you know, we've seen that whole Epstein thing play out, right? I think it's safe to say Epstein didn't, he wasn't, he didn't kill himself. I don't think Epstein had that much more was an integrity where it was dead any. It was death before dishonor, like, oh. He was going to be 10 toes?

Yeah, he didn't have. Now, uh, Justine, whatever her name is. Gillene. Gillian, I always fuck her name up. She's 10 toes. That might be the most solid bitch on earth. She really is. But either way, this ditty thing is going to be a lot bigger than I think people think.

It looks, this is, like I said, we've never seen, I've never seen anything. Like the Michael Jackson thing was big. But again, we never seen, I've never seen this, though. I've never seen kids in handcuffs on the lawn. Like, this is like, oh shit, like they're not fucking around. They don't give a fuck about power, money status. This is like, yo, crimes were committed here. Everybody get out.

We're tearing it through this house. We know what we're looking for. Because they went in there. They know what they were looking for. They were given information. They were told, this is here, that is there. This is where it's at. This is where you can find this.

I believe they have everything. All information they need, I think they just went to go get it for themselves. So now they have it in custody. And now following that, yes, I do believe Puff will be brought up on charges and arrest. it. But to Rory's point, I don't think that Puff is going to allow himself to go down. If this was indeed a ring like people are alluding to, if this was a bunch of other elites involved, I can't see Puff taking the blame or taking the fault for this on his own. I think that he will, again, like his lawyer said, cooperate with the investigation. And we know Puff. to be one, extremely intelligent to one of the most ruthless business people that we've ever came across. I see a world where he has archived all this footage of his peers in compromising situations for blackmail purposes. And I think that's either going to bite him in the ass or maybe

be his ticket to walk. I see a world where he does give everyone up. But I also see a world where he could have so much evidence against other people that they pull favor for favor for favor and let's all just bury all of this. Let Puff do six months at, you know, one of the federal camps where they play tennis and give you ice cream. And then it's, he's back in the streets. I see that option too.

I mean, all the blackmail he has may actually be his ticket out of here. Well, I mean, that's another way to look. There's a bunch of different ways to look at this thing. But, you know, what does this mean for our culture? Because I feel like our culture is under attack as of right now. I feel like there's a lot of things that we're going to become privy to that's going to question our morals, question our beliefs.

Under attack and what this is all self-induced. Well, no, when I say under attack, meaning like, depending on what footage they have and what, and evidence that they have of what's been going on for however many years, I think that this definitely, if it's as bad as they're making it seem, this definitely puts a nasty stain on our culture, without a doubt.

This is one of the biggest figures we've ever had in our culture. Is it a stain or a light? Yeah, honestly. I mean, but if you look at everyone covering it. It's how you look at it. Putting a light on it, exposing it. But now again, the information is what comes out of it. Who did what?

Who was involved? If it's some people that we've looked up to and we've idolized and we've worked with, because we didn't even get to that part, people that we've worked with, people that we've, you know, been next to and been in business with for years. If it comes out that they're doing some of these wild and crazy things that are being alleged, I think that changes a lot for the culture. That completely turns it on its ear. Like, whoa, so this is the things we've been hearing is real? Like the wild shit, the nasty shit, the abuse and all of that that have been alleged over the years, the whispering. So it's real.

I think that changes everything for our culture. Without a doubt, I don't think that there's any other way to look at it. Like, how can it not? These are people that we appointed. This is someone that we held up as one of our kings. This is not, this is Diddy we talking about, bro. This is not no, you know, just some guy that just manages a couple of artists and has had some good records.

Like, this is a mogul. This is somebody that we've championed, somebody that we've looked to, you know, as an example of the things and the places that we can go coming from where we come from. So for it to turn into something else that is now abuse and trafficking and people being, you know, taking advantage of and women being, you know, if it turns into that, how can it not change the culture?

What would change? I think the way we look at people that are in certain positions change. I think the way that, you know, I think the things that we consume change. changes. How, though? Because I don't think that we are no longer attracted to some of the things that we've been attracted to, which, like, partying and, you know, drugs and drinking.

Oh, I don't think that's going to change at all. Oh, I think that changes a lot. I think a lot of people look at all of that shit totally different. Like, no, I'm not a part of that. But I feel like the amount of rappers that have died of gun violence, nothing changed as far as people's point of view on that, like, as a whole. I just think how hip hop is viewed now If you look at all the news publications

That have been covering this for the past week They don't cover hip hop at all Now has my pops texting me about this puff shit Like yo you were you ever at any of those parties I'm like no But my dad doesn't hit me up about anything hip hop related This is across the world now hip hop is being viewed as this Now I don't think it's that I don't think it's that

That's why I said it changes I just don't think it's that crazy because as opposed to what culture? Politics has this thing. Yeah, that's right. Rock and roll has disdain. Yeah, but that's not, that's not, that's not,

Wall Street has a stain. Everything. It is our culture. Politics is not our culture. No, like hip hop and this, this is it. This is, we're seeing what it is. Yeah, but this is why I said it changes the culture.

Because if that's, what positive light was hip hop looked in before this, by the way, like, Hip hop was, killing each other. Hip hop was looking at it, in a very positive light if somebody that comes from,

Somebody that comes from the city and the streets that Ditty comes from, going to college, making his ways up in the ranks of the music business, turning that into fashion, turning that into lifestyle, selling all of the things that he saw. He made it, he made it real intangible that, yo, I can come from the streets and I can become this figure that is at the top of the fucking culture and I'm employing people, I'm making people's dreams come true. I'm signing people artists and it changes everything.

Were you saying from inside the culture or outside? Because outside, I don't think they've ever covered the positivity of Puff at all. I'm talking about the outside. Now they're just covering the negative. Now, to your point, I think within the culture, yeah, Puff was 100% a representation of that in a positive light. Now things look a little crazy. But outside the culture, I don't know, people are always going to find any way to cover hip hop. Yeah.

Negative. That's what I'm against. Since the beginning. Exactly. And now you even see how they've tried to flip this of, you know, attaching Puff to the Obamas, attaching him to the voter die campaign. Well, anybody that he's a Democratic pond that... Anybody that he's ever been in a photo with or done business with...

Of course. That's a higher person. A high-level person is going to be... On the conspiracy tip, they say up next is your guy, Jay. How do you guys feel about that? That was based off... They've been saying that Jay was up next for 16 years now. But I'm just saying it's...

They also said Jay owns an island, so you know what that means. Yeah. I was like, all right, man. I feel the same way. They've been saying Jay and Beyonce... have been up next for doing dirty shit for at least 16, 17 years now. But like I said, I think that anybody whose name is that that associated to Puff and working that close to Puff, having a relationship with Puff over the years, I think they're

going to, everybody's name is going to be thrown in. He's next, she's next. Well, speaking into who's next. Well, Al Sharpton is a rat. I don't know why that just don't go right after him. He'll tell it all. Oh, huge rat. Well, speaking up. I was standing right next to him at a Puff party. I was like, Al Sharpton's here. He was probably wearing a wire. You just read it in telling that. I'm sure there's a photo of Al Sharpton at that party I was at.

There was revolt cameras everywhere. Nothing was a secret. Oh, it was one of those parties, though. The camera safe place. Yeah, I think it was streaming live on revolt. There was nothing happening at that party. Carisha, if we're talking about up next. You imagine like making out of the Miami streets.

We've listened to City Girls. We know what they went through. JT's been to jail. Like, you know, they had a rough upbringing. Imagine finally getting out of that shit and getting popped for moving Coke for puff. Now, when I saw that, what's the white kid, Paul was his name? Oh, his

drug meal. Who used to play for a... Who was a shooter at Syracuse? That boy could play. Yeah, that practice footage. He was falling up. He should have got more minutes. When I saw him and his mug shot... It took down the white boy. I said, oh, this is, this is... He's giving it up in the back of the cop car. See, I find that

offensive and racist. Fine. Like I said, he's giving it a bet. He's giving it a bet. he's giving it up. Oh, that face, I know that face. He looked a little scared. I don't know. We stand ten toes in Syracuse.

I was going to say, too. I know a bunch of rats in Syracuse. You don't know nobody. I know a bunch of rats in the Bronx. That's the fact. Facts. I'm not, there's rats everywhere.

Let's be clear. That white niggas given up. Paul, what's his name? Brendan Paul? What's his name? Paul. Yeah, it's two first names. Brendan Paul.

Oh, man. Two first names. You know Brendan Paul ain't standing ten toes. He in there told him I call my mom. it wasn't me that's my bag yeah definitely Julian's back call my mom

it wasn't me I'll make the joke Puff asked me to do it for him like I don't know man sometimes I just wanted to be a cool I wanted to be around the culture sometimes I feel like he's from Seattle too

oh he's like no he's from Ohio oh god that's white boy come I might hold it down Brendan Paul's not holding anything down I can tell you all that right now I would like to know Brewster Academy in New Hampshire

this guy is singing he's saying before they got there okay hear me out just quickly He's how Homeland Security got been for. He opened the door. Sometimes these guys that are not part of that world and get into it late are the guys that actually hold it down because they think this facade you have to not snitch.

It's the people that have been in the game for 20 years that give it up in two fucking seconds. This guy thinks he's living in a movie. I think he average. And he's in Miami giving puff coke. He probably is sitting there like, no, I got to hold it down for puff. He averaged point one points for game in his college career.

You ever skip bailist numbers. He's snitching. He's snitching. He has nothing to look. five shots over the course of his college career. He was bowling in practice, though. That footage on Twitter. You're talking about practice?

I want to know how he got from SCU basketball team into the position of being Ditties Co-W. Two people have that dock by next Wednesday. We'll know everything about this kid. So now let's put on our tinfoil hats. And you got to keep a white boy close for the drugs. Like, if anybody's going to get jammed up with the drugs, Paul, Brendan Paul.

You know, and you know who else keeps a white boy close? Homeland Security. Who is his white boy? Why was he allowed to just come into Puff's crib and start supplying drugs and pills and shit like that? That's probably Puffs type. Who is he? Okay, but do you think he'll really...

How much Coke do you really think he was caught with? One, two, they really have actual evidence of. He may end up getting like a fucking misdemeanor where he wouldn't even need to snitch. I'm not... No, no, no, no, no. When they say Drug Mule, he was on a plane with a little bit of coke in his pocket. And they got them.

But you don't know how much. They've gotten more from TSA and people haven't done time. Right. But you're over how much time though? I don't think they were, I don't think this guy was supplying bricks. I just don't. He don't have to be supplying bricks.

I'm just saying over how much time do you think, okay, put an A ball in your bag right now and fly from JFK to L.A.X. No. I mean, nothing really happens, honestly. Yeah, nothing really happens. Yeah? Yeah.

They don't really be checking for A balls like that. That's what's what. No, but get caught with it. I'm not saying they're checking for it. Oh, get caught. That's a different story. Yeah. Get caught with it.

You see what happens. Let's just see what happens. Because we, again, even like the formidable news spots, just get little bits of police reports. And that is a fact. But then they run with it in the title. We don't know if this guy was Diddy's drug mule. This is crazy. He may have been around Puff and just got caught with some Coke.

He started making beats during the pandemic, according to a Facebook post in 2020. And he eventually began, how do you do? He started producing for the love. album. Now I understand what that album was so good. I keep telling people, I don't need, who was that little ride, dude? I've never heard of him before this. I had neither. He did a lot of records

on the love album, though. Before that. I don't know. These niggas is agents, man. Let's just go ahead and say it. These niggas is agents, bro. These niggas have been placed. That's what they said about Takashi that the FBI taught him how a rap. These niggas have been placed around Puff. Talked him how to rap. That's a

real conspiracy that that that is a new strategy. I don't think this is a strategy for a long time that they are taking musically inclined people and placing them that's the real industry plant so when i say the coach is the end of attack this is what i'm talking about who is these niggas who is little rod who is brenden paul all of a sudden these niggas got so close to puff where they start supplying drugs and and and chicks and video and and recording every who are these niggas where did they come from even this is a little far-fetched for my tinfoil has shit. Like, no, I don't think they scooped up Brendan Paul as a, not even a sixth man off

the Syracuse bench and was like, do you want to join the FBI or the CIA? I just don't think it went that way. I think there is a world where that happens in other places. These CIA agents can speak a million different languages. They can, they're fucking doing tricks with their guns, backflips, jumping out of planes. I think they can learn how to play the keyboard pretty fucking good. So I think there is a world where agents, yes, have great music. taste and know how to pick a sample. I just don't know if Brendan Paul is the one. Maybe Little Rod.

Bro, let me tell you something. Let me tell you something, though. I think he was talented. I just don't think he was, I don't think the CIA was like looking at his game film. It was like, that's our guy to get puff. Bro, let me tell you something. We're going to, over the next few weeks, we're going to learn a lot of shit that we didn't think was possible.

Listen. And we're going to be sitting here like, holy shit. And that's what I'm trying to say when I mean, the culture looks like it's under attack. This is one of our kings. And this is how they did him. And this is the tactical team that they sent into his houses and put his kids in handcuffs. And if he's guilty of all the things that they say that he's guilty of he deserves it. Yeah.

He's not under attack. If Puff sexually abused or is guilty of any of these illegal crimes that they're placing on it, I'm not here to cape for him. Dude, you got to, you got to wear that. You got to see, you got to take that. But that's if he's guilty of any of these things that he's being alleged of. But we also had this conversation. Let's, even if this doesn't happen.

When you're talking about the culture being an attack and these stains and all, even if this doesn't happen and only the Cassie case happens, is that or is that not enough? It's enough. You know what? Oh, no. Look where we stood on that. We only spoke on that the way we did because he settled out. Had he not settled out, I don't, you know what I mean? And I know, you know, settling out is not an admission of guilt on some level of it. And some level it is just saying, okay, yeah, I'll take that. I'll take whatever. But all of those charges in that loss, that all of it was nasty. So I'm guilty of one of those things, it's like, yo, that's, bro, that's insane to have any of those allegations on your jacket.

What I'm saying is this, though, sending the tactical teams in to Dittie's properties, we've never seen a tactical team run down on the Playboy Mansion, and I'm sure. Yeah. And I'm positive over however many years, that Playboy Mansion has been there. There's been underage girls having sex, and there's been a lot of drugs being used. I think, Neil Brenning called it, uh, Jeffrey Efton. scenes island with a grotto. I'm more than positive.

I think if it was still open, I think if it was still open today, I feel like the times is what have changed, or what have changed. Like, all of these things are now being looked at because we live in a new world under a light where it's like, yeah, not only are these things illegal, they've always been illegal, they're also wrong. So I feel like Diddy has probably been, if he's guilty of these things, he's been doing these things for years, but now this is coming to light. I think if the Playboy Manchu was still up and running,

I think that the same thing will happen. So to the Cassie point, where Diddy could really be fucked? I don't think NDAs qualify with criminal court. If I settle out with you in a civil lawsuit and I sign an NDA not to discuss it, I don't think that NDA is valid in a courtroom. Another thing that people didn't pay attention to.

So she was talking about him shooting people. Like, it was crazy. Another thing that people aren't paying attention to in this whole thing. is his chief of staff just turned witness. Yeah. She was named in a little rod suit. And said she was going to be ten toes.

And now. Who Chris and Chris, right? Ethiopia. Yeah. Oh, Ethiopia. This is Puff's chief of staff, which means everything runs through her. She's singing.

His Gis Lane. Everything runs through her. Never get it right. So we can make memes and jokes and all that shit. We're going to start seeing and hearing some shit in the next couple weeks. He's fried. That is going to really fuck us up in how we feel. And it's going to test.

I'm telling you, everybody, I know a lot of, see, a lot of people that on the internet now and have these blogs, these platforms, they're not old enough to really know the impact that Puff had on the culture. A lot of these guys 25, 26, 27, like, Puff has not dominated music in a long time. I'm talking about from the night. and seeing what he did and what he built and how he came up to where he is today. I saw that. I watched that. This is somebody that we've always held as, yo, puff is that nigger.

To see him now in this part of his life going through this, bro, this is, this is disappointing. This is sad. This is a tragedy. This is like, this is, this is really some shit that we only thought that we would see in a movie. This is movie shit. this is movie, this is the end of the movie where it all comes falling down and we find out that that the uncle that we thought was the most stand-up, honest, loving, caring, supportive person.

Did we think that? Is not that. Who thought about, like, am I tripping? I know I didn't. Well, over the last couple of years, it's, I'm talking about, I'm talking about from the beginning. But like in the slice of music industry experience that I've had, I haven't heard anything good about him.

And I'm not, I haven't been in this shit forever. only like six years or so in, but like, it's just, this doesn't surprise me. But that's what you just said, you've been in it six, seven years. We told me, I'm talking about going way back further than that. I know, but my point is, like, then I would assume the nasty stuff was going away earlier. We've heard artists had their gripes with them, you know, not getting their publishing and getting paid things like that. A lot of people write that off to you signed that contract. And he became friends with most of them afterwards.

You understand I'm saying? So it's like a lot of that shit we had to dismiss because of it. it's like, okay, these same artists that felt that way, a lot of them are, it's cool with them now. A lot of them have even done business with them again. You understand what I'm saying? So those type of things was like, that's business, you know, that's their thing. You signed that contract. You got to stand behind whatever you sign.

Yes, a lot of these artists were young. They didn't really know how to read a contract. So you could say they were taking advantage of. I get all of that. But at the end of the day, they signed that contract. And if all Puff was doing was going by what was in those contracts, yeah, it's still fucked up. didn't know, but they signed the contract. I'm talking about all of these things that came out in the last few years

testing Puffs character as far as sexual abuse and things like that. These things are something that we never saw happening and coming up. It's just crazy to, like, the arrogance you have to have of having the same practices in the new era. Like, Cosby might have been the only one that didn't get out Scott Free from back in the day, because things were just accepted. They were completely fucking wrong, for sure. It's not an excuse.

I'm not saying it was the times. It just people turned a blind eye to a lot of it. We even hear stories now. Quincy Jones tells crazy stories about that time. Puff was taking shit that he was getting away with in the 90s to 2020. Like the type of arrogance you have to have going into that. So yeah, do I think there's probably some Homeland Security plant or agents that were sent to Puff? but you are the most vulnerable target

when you're already doing crimes. They don't need to like plant too much here. Yeah. That's like that's where that's where we have to find a middle ground with a conspiracy shit. Yeah, do I think he was probably target? Sure.

He has a lot of influence. He represents an entire culture. And from what we've seen publicly on the business side, he's been a great one. You're also committing crimes. You're so easy to plant an agent. like how much conspiracy do we really need here and I'm not even and I'm not even

mention and like a lot of people were bringing up back to Carisha a lot of people were bringing up things that she would tweet and things that her and Diddy would say she's admitting this is not my man he pays me every month he's also peeing on me you're admitting to being an escort y'all are talking about like prostitution

and tricking in music and on interviews like y'all are talking about this She's on platform saying that she's a hoarse. She lives her rhymes more than any rapper we've ever seen. Yeah, like she says straight up, I'm a whore. That's hard. She said that out of her mouth. So, you know, okay, cool.

She's wearing it. She knows what she is. She's wearing that. But that's, but what I'm saying is, it's illegal. Y'all are brag. That's why when you say conspiracy and plants and all this, it's like in the arrogance where he spoke to, y'all are bragging about. To me with a high paid lawyer, that's a very easy one.

That was, that was crazier on the paperwork just because it said Young Miami name and a 50 cents baby mother's name. It's very easy to clean up giving a woman a stipend per month, especially if it's a consistent amount on retainer. I'm dating her. This is my girlfriend. She could be a creative consultant. She's an artist.

She's showing me the new way. My muse. Like, that's easy to clean up. My Mona Lisa. It was straight up prostitution. But not when you're recruiting. But they're saying in the, if I'm not mistaken in the paperwork that you're, she was in charge of recruiting other girls.

That's where you're. Oh, she's a job recruiter. Yeah. She's a job creator. LinkedIn. She is Diddy's LinkedIn. She went to job court. She's recruiting other toilet seeds.

Yeah. So when, all right, a prostitution ring when it is all consensual, is there even like much jail time there though? If I'm hiring a bunch of sex workers that all, if they get caught, we're like, yeah,

it was consensual, I'll take the plea for being a prostitute. You see the bank records, whatever. Like, can you get that? much time for that? It's not even about the jail time for me. This is about reputation, legacy. This is bigger than jail time.

This is, this is Pup's legacy. This is his reputation. If he does 20 months in prison, he can never come back and be welcomed into the culture the way he was. I don't think he'll be welcome back. Well, he shouldn't be welcomed back. High view of the culture and what

they accept back in. That's no. This is, this is, this is, this is. If any of, if any of, that's, This is what I'm saying. If any of this shit sticks, any of these allegations and they, you know, investigating and find that, yes, they have charges to bring Diddy on and he ends up going to prison, he can't come back from this. It's over.

Now, Puff is in his 50s, you know, whatever. Like, he can go somewhere and just, you know, live out his life and just be the old guy that's just, you know, at one point was a mogul and still going to have a lot of money. He sold all his shares. It's still at the point where he can sail off into the sunset. Oh, no, he's. He's not going to be, we're not going to see him panhandling. No.

He won't, it's not going to go there. He just sold his shares of revolt, made a nice piece of, you know, made a nice piece of change from that. And the liquor company. Diageo paid him almost a billion dollars in their relationship. This is what I'm saying. He's good, man. For seven, 16 years now?

Something like that, yeah. You know, I mean, he, it's not about the money. Again, this is about his legacy, which, you know, depending on who, you're talking to is more important than your money. It's your legacy. It's your reputation. It's, you know, it's how people view you. And I think that this is what Puff stands and is losing at the moment. He's losing his, his legacy is being ruined. It's being tarnished. It'll never be looked at the same. But again, it's just an investigation. He's not under arrest yet. Homeland Security is investigating. They went through his house. Whatever they were looking for. I'm assuming they found it.

They have it. They have possession of it. whether it's videos of some high power people having sex, whatever it is, Team Z will happen soon because the motherfuckers get everything. Maul, how do you feel about, we're looking also at the change in history, more history's being made as our hip-hop vernacular has now shifted.

It used to be no homo, and then it was pause, and now it's no ditty. That's not going to last pass. Do you feel like you guys are losing your staying power? No, that's not. Because you could, you know, pause was your shit.

That's just a moment. I'm all in on No Diddy. Of course you are. Pause has outlasted Me Too, the entire gay rights movement. Me too. You'll just say no me too. People that are hope like our homo say no homo in pause at this point. Yeah.

No. That's not. This is just very momentary. That's not. No Diddy is fun. It's just I will I will. I will never say that. It reminds me too much in No Digity.

Yeah. Like, I just, I can't get into it. It just reminds me too much of that. Diggedy, they're calling him the didler. The didler was funny. I mean, these are, there's been some great. Oh no, social media has been having a field day with this type of, with this type of shit. And I'm not here to complain.

Like, it is weird that we take absolutely nothing seriously on social media, but I enjoy. Like, these are crazy crimes and we're just making memes. But I'm here to laugh at them. Well, people make memes in, in, in crazy times. understand that I get it. If 50's still making memes while his baby mother is involved in the case, then I think we're all sick. 50 100% knew that girl was a sex worker. I was going to ask you, do you think he found out with the rest of us with that paperwork? No, he found out, which is why he's probably been going at Puff as hard as he's been going. Yeah. But he didn't find out last night when

I love 50. Because it did take a weird turn a few years ago. No. Like they always had back and forth funny jabs, but you could tell they were always still cool. Yeah. They were competing in the liquor shit. Then it did take a strange fucking turn. Like, yeah, it's, it comes across as like, yo, what's up, man? Like, because you you be on it. As soon as anything come out about this dude, it's on your page. It's in your captions. Like,

like, what's up, bro? And then now that this comes out, it's like, oh, okay. But, Tim, all right. If I'm 50, I would be upset, not for, like, emotional reasons per se, but, like, at that point, you're doing sex work for the sport. Like, I'm sure my child support covers

your overhead, ma'am. To have to go be, a sex worker. You've ever heard of the term you can't turn a hole into a houseway? Fair. No, I get that. I'm not saying he should have, I'm not saying he should have wiped her, but the point is to get money, right? I'm sure 50 was giving her enough money where she didn't need to go be a sex worker. So did Ginger and Casino. That's true. Yeah. For the sport, that's what I'm saying. Can't turn a hoe into a housewife. She's really into the life though. People are who they are and you got to let them be who they are. It is what it is. And you know, if it's a consenting adult,

It's a grown woman and that that's the life she wants to live and that's what she wants to do. Then hey, that's on her to wear, you know what I mean? But yeah, either way, I guess we got to just wait and see what else comes out of this. But again, I'm just on the side of, I think charges are coming. I think Puff will be placed under arrest. It's all about what comes out in the wash. What are we going to learn? Do you think any of the other big fish will go down or will this all fall on, Diddy?

I mean, they have the power. to make it all fall on, did he? Yeah. Because again, you know, we've seen tactical teams going in his house and raid and take shit. What did they take? Yeah, it all falls on the evidence in what they're trying to either cover up or get out there. Yeah, like, what did they take?

I can see both scenarios. Puff is the downfall or Puff walks. They were looking for laptops, phones, camera, and I think they found all of that. Oh, for sure. I think they found all of that. I think they've gotten into the cloud and deleted all of that shit. Oh, yeah. This is high level.

We're not talking about a nigga that just got caught at a traffic stop with a gun in this car. No, this is high level. These are motherfuckers that have the ability to delete your Social Security number. You never even roamed this earth as far as they're concerned. This is that level. Demaris, if young Miami offered you pink cocaine at a party in Miami, would you partake? Probably. Yeah, probably would too.

Yeah. If Young Miami offered me anything, I would probably. Yeah, I wouldn't want to fuck the vibe up. Yeah. Have you looked at Young Miami? And if you said, no, they'd make you do it anyway. True. You don't really have a choice for the matter.

You might as well pretend you have willpower. Yeah. I'd file paperwork on a little Rory instead. Outside of that, it's been a crazy fucking week in hip-hop. You think? This has been a wild, what, 10 days? Not even? Not even, like a week.

Like eight days, maybe? Yeah, a week. Yeah. So a week ago today at midnight. At the stroke of midnight. Come on. Tell the story. Make it like suspenseful, Roy.

Like one of my captions. Yeah, well, lower these lights in this motherfucker. Let's really make this a moment. Midnight did not stroke me. It was just midnight. No, but the clock struck midnight, right? I have a digital clock, though, so like, it never struck. It just changed.

Nothing. I miss when the clock used to strike. When he used to, like, go off at midnight or noon or whatever. No, because I was in high school, I'm showing my age again. When I was in high school, we had like, sun dials like that. Well, sundials too. Yeah, so did I.

You had digital clocks. No, we didn't. You had regular clocks? No, we had regular clocks. Were we? Yeah. Even in college, we had regular clocks. Really?

Yeah. I thought you had digital clocks. Well, just because they didn't update those rooms, but nobody used them. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, we even had, like, chalkboards. Only some rooms had the cool marker boards. Yeah. That was when things really got crazy.

Yeah. Well, anyways, when the clock struck midnight, the future Metro Boomin album, we don't fucking trust you, you bitch-ass rappers dropped. Thought you about to say something else. That's weird that you would think that. When he was home alone, he got in your mind. Yeah. We don't trust you, bitch-ass niggers.

That's what I said at my home. Yeah, hell yeah. Okay. I yelled that at my girl and my baby. Metro dropped. Just grabbed Amara and scream the N-word in their face. Yeah. So, I mean.

Do we even need to give the full history of this? Like, at this point, it's a week old. Everyone knows Kendrick diss, Cole and Drake on the Metro and Future album. Yeah. Since last Thursday, things have gotten even more interesting. Nav unfollowed Drake. Ooh. The most important thing.

We saw that Ross unfollow Drake also was playing the like that Kendrick diss in his car. Ross is my nigga. I love him. One of my favorites, but that was corny. We'll get to that. everyone did deep dives into other lyrics on the future and Metro album. The intro in particular was saying Future was shooting at Drake

over some girl, just some other sex worker in Miami. Does that mean? Should I not put that on her? Yeah, I'm saying you guys. Why do you guys let whore as fuck up your whole thing? You guys are damn near pushing 40. You're almost billionaires.

You're letting the fucking whore, fuck your whole shit up. Are you saying that? Why do you call on her a whore and you don't know if she's a whore? He's a sex worker woman. Same thing, whatever. A stripper. She was a stripper. I'm not calling her. Come on. Yeah. Sex work was fine.

I didn't call her a horse. Any woman. It could be Oprah. Like, why are you letting a woman come between your fucking day? It's about the principle. No, it's not. And it's not, a woman is not the reason why this is happening. Yeah, bad. This is not. I think it's a part of it. It's a big part for Future in Drake.

Let's look at Future and Drake's lyrics. I can easily see a woman dividing those two. This is not about a woman. in between the future and Drake. Are you going to share with us what you think it's about? Allegedly. I just think it's literally, it goes back to Drake and Metro.

Their beef, their issue with each other. I think that... Over a woman, no? No, it's not over a woman. No. I think that future in Metro, obviously, you know,

their family at this point. You know, that's this guy. And I just think that a line is drawn and future is clear on what side. he's on. And I do think the album with 21 Savage plays a big part in here somewhere too.

So that was... I'm not sure where. The conspiracy I saw on the internet, so you know it's fake, like absolutely facts, was there's some beef between Future and 21's camps and there was some type of incident

between two guys where a murder happened and Future may have felt a way that Drake then and went and did an actual album with 21 Savage. Well, 21 and Metro are still very, very close. Yes, but apparently that was what the internet was saying.

Was the nail in the coffin? I don't fucking know. I'm not from Atlanta. Either way. Demaris, you were saying. I was just saying, is there any way that, like, do you have any idea what it could possibly be about outside of the? I just, I just think this is, um, I do think a lot, some of it, some of it is, um, personal.

I'm not, I don't think it's a woman. And I'm, I highly doubt it's a woman. that is in between Drake and Future. I don't think that they would allow that to happen. I will argue the other side of that. These women have too many women for that to be the issue. But I think that this is just one of those situations where, you know, the top, the guy that says has been on top for as long as he's been on top,

this is people testing it. This is, this is people saying, you all think you're good, but I don't think you're that good. Okay, I can see that with, say, Kendrick. Of course, they've been sending subs at each other back and forth, but I can definitely see Kendrick saying, all right, we're this far into our careers, let's see who's the best for real. Let's not have any more to be.

I think that's healthy competition. With the relationship we know Drake had with future and has had it with Ross, I'd like to know why everyone is now taking Metro's side. Something had to have happened. There's no way Ross, they were supposed to do a joint project with, have collaborated for 15 years,

probably my two favorite collaborators in the last 15 years. When they do records together, it's undeniable. Yeah. With no bit of information, Ross all of a sudden is vibing to Kendrick Lamar like that in his car. And Drake is inviting his ex-girlfriend to the show

and like, yeah, I want to know what Drake did. why is everyone now forming against him? I think this is, again, this just feels like it's a elbow room. Like, yo, I need, nah, I need that spot, though. You had that shit long enough. Like, fuck out of it. Like, I don't think you that dope.

I don't think you that tough. I don't think you that. I think it's a lot of that going on. Ross is admittedly in more towards the end of his music career. He's clearly said he's moving on to other ventures. Music is not his main focus. The farm. I can't see Ross now being like,

I'm not going to be friends with somebody I've collaborated with for years for competition reasons. Oh, no, I'm not saying that for Ross. I'm saying as far as just like the whole future. I think it's something extremely personal. I think the woman that people are talking about has something to do with a long list of other shit. I think when things were a little questionable in their relationship as friends, somebody went and fucked somebody. It would have been cool if y'all was friends,

but now it looks like you went and fucked that girl. Well, I'm not, listen, I don't know that girl. I don't know that girl, but she did, you know, going on her IG Live and she spoke and she said, this has nothing. This has nothing to do with me. Like, so, you know, like, she has a boyfriend and, you know. Doesn't matter.

I mean, it could possibly not matter. I just don't think that this is about a woman. The two of them gave at least a hint in some regard on the lyrics about, you know, it's the same shit with the pillow talking. you know, you're talking crazy about my name with this girl that we're both sleeping with. It's all that shit. It's petty. Yeah.

He's dumb. But I don't see that. I mean, all of these dudes pillow talk. I think all this shit is wrestling. I think it's fake. I think a lot of this shit is a show. I will say the Kendrick thing. The Kendrick thing.

I can't. I know it is. I can't get too far into it, but I know it is. I think there is a lot of, sucks. I think there's a lot of wrestling between Kendrick and Cole. I think they probably have an amazing relationship

and are super cool. this is a sport thing for them. Yes. I think there is a bit of animosity between Drake and Kendrick. That's not all friendly competition. I think the future Ross Metro Drake thing is all fucking personal

and there's some real shit behind the scenes between them. I think it's a mixed bag. And I think it's interesting timing too. I think it's, well first, let me say this because we spoke on the Twitter spaces about it. Which is available on YouTube. three hours of content.

Which, by the way, get off our day. Please listen to it because it is great. I didn't realize how much of our listeners were, like, part of TDE. There was people that have been, like, supporters that I've appreciated all the hours they've listened to this podcast in the comments. Like, listen, I love this podcast. I buy merch. I go to shows.

But the fact that Rory likes Drake, I don't think I can ever listen to this podcast again. What I see? You know, the weirdos out there. I was like, what the fuck? spoke to um we talked about the record and drama asked me that i think the record was going to go and i was like no i don't think so i think you know people are kind of move on quick from it i quickly text drama sunday afternoon around one o'clock and was like i was wrong i apologize this shit is every record is hard it's record is going to be every but see like i told drama i was

caught up on just kendrick's lyrics and what he was saying i didn't allow myself to listen get into the groove just the music fuck what they're saying on it just the music the way it moves the energy. And I was like, okay, I said, no, the music is there. And then I started listening to the cadence and the melody that Future had. And it's like, oh, no, this is, this is, this is, this is, they going to shake ass to this is. Is it given back to back in the club? Yeah, it's given back to back in the club. Absolutely. Yeah, I caught myself shaking ass to it. Like, naturally, like, not even knowing what I was listening to it. And I was like, oh, damn. It's going, it's going to go. That record is going to go. Um, so I, I, you know, I apologize. I text drama and he was

like, you're a good man. Um, um, he said he was so surprised to him. He said that it wouldn't go. He was like because, yo, that record was made for the club. Especially the, the start. Andrew is saying on it. Just the top on it. Yeah, fuck what Kendrick is saying on it and who he's going at.

The music. The best part of the song is not Kendrick's verse. Yeah, no. Now, what Kendrick did do to it. It didn't really fucking well there. What he added, when he added, it was not going to fuck up the vibe at the club. No. You know, he added, he added that performative energy.

If you out, you can kind of get those lyrics. Because, you know, everybody think they got a hop. you know, everybody in the club and they can go, ah. Yeah, exactly. I ain't like that, but everybody could do that. That was crazy.

But, um, that's when the DJ turned the money. He had reverb on his voice, all right? Yeah. So, um, the record is we're not going to, I think that'll be one of the biggest songs of the summer. It's probably be song in summer.

Um, I still had Fisher up there with Cash Cobain as being a song in the summer. But this is definitely content. I heard Fisher out in Turks. I know you did. You're going to hear Fisher everywhere. I was hanging with, I sent you the video.

I was hanging with Bob's over the weekend. and we were at my apartment, you know, same 5 a.m. post night, hang sesh. And he goes, this is going to be the song in the summer. And it was that fucking played that damn song. I'm trying to tell you, man, it's just the energy. It's the vibe. But back to this Drake shit. So I

was talking to somebody because we were trying to figure out, like, what is this? What's happening? What's going on? Why now? What's going on with this shit? And he gave me a very interesting story, which probably is applicable to situations I've been in. Situation you've been in Rory. I think we've all been in

these type situations. He said he said he was talking to this guy that is like a wolf trainer. Right? Yeah. He's like he trains wolves or whatever. So random. I'm sorry. No, no, real, real story. Who are you talking to Joe Rogan? Because we were trying to, we were trying to figure out what's, what's going on? Like what's happening with this shit, right? Like, what's going on? Like, this is because this is not, this is, this is the best of our gen this generation, getting ready to collide. Like this is that. When making it for all the dogs reference now with the wolf trainer?

Did you speak to Kendrick Lamar? Is that the guy in the car? No, not that. So he said he was talking to a guy that trains wolves and he was like, yeah, he was thinking about buying some property. So he asked him, he said, you know, what would I do? What would I do if I'm like in the woods on my property

one night and I like, I spot a wolf? Like I see a wolf. Like, what should I do? Like, what would I, how can I make get out of that situation without being harmed. Like, go inside. Say your team, Jacob. So the dude, that's funny.

The dude said, um, thank you. He said, um, he said, well, if you happen to spot a wolf or lock eyes with a wolf at night and, you know, you can probably can't see the body, but you can see the wolf's eyes, you know, the eyes illuminate in the darkness. He said, if you lock eyes with a wolf, he said, either that's, you're experiencing one the rarest occurrences and a wolf has veered off from his pack and is traveling the night by itself, which is something that rarely ever happens. And Kendrick did just leave his pack. Or, or you're only seeing a wolf that made his self want to be seen to you and you're surrounded by

nine others and you just don't know where they're at. Ooh. Okay. So I thought about that and this was Friday or Saturday night Friday night and I'm like damn like that's so that fits this because now you got Kendrick jumped out there right obviously

but then now it's niggas is on following Drake we don't know what's happening and this guy's on this album it's like everyone can now express the feelings that they've been trying to express for questions it's like oh you niggas have you niggas have had me and your targets

for a while now. But he's had to have known that. But Drake's been rapping about that for the last four albums that he's felt like this was happening. Yeah. And I said, I said, damn, like that is so one person jumped out there.

And it's like, okay, before I make a move, I need to understand that I may be surrounded. But look at the wolf that it took to make that move. the big dog boom now what I take from that is because this goes back to the conversation we had on spaces about everybody wanting Drake

is that supposed to be Drake Drake is the L I don't know what this is that's Kendrick no that's Kendrick that's Ross yeah yeah I don't know what I don't know what Julie pulled up

I just wanted to see wolves are pretty majestic if you're looking at them from afar that was pretty gay so so now we're here where all of these people are following Drake, posting videos, listening to the verse and this, that, and the third, whatever.

So this speaks back to what I was saying, because everybody's like, nah, fuck that. Drake got to respond right now. I'm like, does he? Now, let's be clear. Kendrick got off on that verse. Still didn't say Drake's name. Oh, please.

Oh, please. Just listen. Y'all could oh, please, but just listen. He didn't say his name. Oh, come on, Ma. Now, the difference, the difference in him and the Pusher thing was, Pusha was coming for blood. He mentioned that man's family.

He mentioned like Puscher went right at it. What Kendrick did was kind of sort of like, okay, big three, you know, Mike, I'll live Mike Jack. He had seven dog on Tondra's at the end of her. For all the dogs getting buried. If you say my album title, you're talking to me. Hold on. But that's, did he still, is that still anywhere comparable to what Pusha did?

Okay, well, hold on, no, no. Actually, this is way worse. Way worse than what Puscher did in his original face. his kid, bro. In the first, infrared. All he said was it was written by Quentin.

And then Drake jumped out the window, which is fine because Push had been shooting for a while. He said one actually, which I think when it comes to Push's standard of rapping, was a very weak bar on Push's bath. And then Drake jumped out the window

with the dupy shit, said he'd make it ring on him like Virginia Williams said his wife's name and then Push jumped out. This is weak compared to what Kendrick did. I don't think Drake. If Drake is replying to all this other shit,

he's replying to tweets. And, and not only that. And not only that. And not only that. And not only that. The push of shit was more personal from the gate anyway.

Facts. I agree. I agree. Kendrick shit, this is sport. This has to do. Yeah, this has to do with music. Yeah.

Kendrick, this is sport. The push of shit was personal. But now people want Drake to jump out there immediately. And it's like, yeah. First of all, though, first of all, he's on tour.

Let's just start there. A nigger ain't going writing a disc record and jumping in the booth while he's in the middle of the tour that's not happening when we got fucking takeover we didn't get ether for three months so it's like more than that might have been like nine months so yeah well however long it was it wasn't no right next 48 hours we didn't get that yeah but it was a different time it ain't a nick he's on tour it was a different time you want this nigga to jump into a battle while he's on tour and then and then if he gets asked he finished the album on tour but listen the album is different you know that it's harder no

When you got to get in battle mode, Rory, that's harder. As a nigga, that's a fucking megastar. To get into battle mode, to go at somebody, it's a whole different, that's a whole different zone you got to be in. We're not going to act like Drake don't got 50 Kendrick bars in the back of his fucking brain because that's the way that Drake operates. He just figured out. All right. So if you think, all right, so let's just play devil's advocate. If you're Drake, you got 50 Kendrick bars ready to go, right?

Mm-hmm. How many Drake bars you think Kendrick got when Kendrick has had more time to you to sit down and he's not been on the road? Drake has did two tours in the last year and a half, three and a half albums, however many albums the last few years. I think they both have nine years of nine, ten years of fucking disqual. I'm just saying as of recently, Kendrick has not been as busy as Drake, correct? No, he is not. So which means, which means he would probably have more time to prep for a battle.

Sure. Oh, and we know this. So I'm telling you, I'm telling you I can understand why Drake isn't going to respond as fast as people want him to because this is a whole different zone that he has to get into, Foy, this is Kendrick Lamar we're talking about. Lamar. Anybody else that Drake has had words with and has gotten into it with, I don't think any of those dudes is on Kendrick level.

No. So, push is not. So, if you want to, if you want to, if you want to battle and you want it to go. Good opponent, though. Who? Push is a viable opponent. And at the time, even though we want to rewrite history. Does push your rap like Kendrick?

At that time. Like Kendrick or? Does push your rap as good as Kendrick? Probably not. No. Does meek rap as good as Kendrick? No. Has Meek ever rap as good as Kendrick?

No. So is my statement correct in saying that this is the most deadliest rapper opponent that Drake will ever stand in front of, well, right now that he will stand in front of? Yes, you're correct. All right. So back to what I was saying. Your niggas, y'all like, don't shit in there make me sound like I'm stupid. Wait, but I'm not disagreeing. I'm not saying you disagreeing, but you may, you was like, me.

No, just to say out of note, like he hasn't battled anyone that has any. I said this would be his toughest opponent is what I said. Okay, I'm sorry. I misunderstood like he had any tough opponents. Prepare for your toughest opponent. That takes a different type of preparation. Sure. You want this dude to prep for that while he is still on the road doing the tour?

I think two things can be true. I get Drake's perspective right now of taking time because knowing Kendrick, he already has a full plan down to the last fucking hour day of how he is going to go about this battle. he jumped out the window at the exact time he wanted to because he's prepared and ready to go. Drake has to look at that and be like, all right, I can't jump out the window right now because I know Kendrick is sitting with a clip ready to go.

Absolutely. And he's been planning this for months. Absolutely. I'm just figuring out the same time everyone else did. I don't know if that's a full excuse, though, just to throw that. And I think that's why Kendrick was so smart in the way he did it.

I'm going to do it while he's on tour. It'll put the pressure on him. He's replied quick to everybody. and then did the back-to-back shit it's been fucking seven days. Where y'all at? We know Drake to reply extremely quickly. I think he replied to push within six hours. We know Drake to do that.

He's going to look crazy if he takes three months to do it. It's a good move by Kendrick. I don't think so. And as a fan, I don't think any of us care that he's on tour. Fans don't give a shit about the stuff you're talking about.

You're talking about real facts. Yeah, but the fans don't. We know that Kendrick did Drake finally direct after they've been going back and forth for a decade. But this is why... Finally, he did it. So, Drake, you've been shooting

at Megan for the last year. Now you're going to be quiet. But this is why... But this is why... But this is why he is who he is and he's at where he's at because he's very calculated. Sure.

He moves when he wants to move. So if you're saying, okay, I'm going to battle one of the deadliest pins in hip hop. That's prepared. That has been prepared for this. I didn't know this was coming. I didn't know he was going to do this right now.

I'm on fucking tour with Jake. Cole and fucking Wayne. Like I didn't, my focus is here. Now, what I will say is, oh, Drake is gonna respond.

Oh, yeah. But I thought would have been lovely or would have been crazy as if he had at his disposal red button right now. Because to me, red button right now drops, that's one size fits all.

That's addressing all these niggas. Y'all are following me. You acting funny. This nigga acting funny now. Red button is, that's applicable to whoever wants to feel like it's about,

them. That's one size. I'm talking to all you niggas. But that's good. That was good at the time. No, I'm just, I'm not saying, I'm not saying, I'm not saying, I'm not saying, I'm not saying, that's a, that's a, that's a, that's worthy of a response. I'm just saying if he just had that to just drop, that was already recorded while I'm on the road, let me drop that. And then once this tour is done, I get into battle mode and, and go at Kendrick. I think that that's a beautiful, a beautiful transition. Before we get to Cole, I will ask, if Drake does reply in let's say three months. And it's not a, like, like, a direct shot the way Dupy Freestyle was, the way back to back was, and just gives us a song and there's eight bars that have to do with Kendrick and says shit like your DNA isn't humble or just something that's just like what this isn't even worth it. Is that an L to Drake? Yes. If he only has eight bars, if it's a real, like if it's a song, just a song that he puts out and happens to shoot. Oh yeah. Nah. Yeah, but I don't see that happening. I understand what you're saying,

But no, if, if to your question, if that's the response, then that's a loss. I agree. He has to, he has to, and this is why what I'm saying is valid because I'm telling he has to turn it to somebody else. This is not Drake, songwriting ability, Drake, pop megastar Drake, 17 billion streams, all my, all my projects have over a billion. This is not, this shit don't matter at all of that. And this arena at all.

That's why I'm saying, he can't. respond right now while he's on. So because with this is, this is a whole different, this, this Drake has to go into a whole different mindset. He has to become a whole, his energy has to change. He has to be a whole different person for this battle. Because this is, we, we know Kendrick has three or four ready. For sure. So now Drake has to put himself in a position to where he has four, five, and six ready. I agree. can't just record one put it out. He can't wait to see.

He can't do that. And him being on the road and him being on. Can't play his hand too quick. He can't do that right now. I'm not mad that it's been seven days and he hasn't replied. I want to make that very clear. Mm-hmm. I just don't think we can go another two weeks.

Yeah, we're still waiting for Jesus to come back. The tour's over April 5th. Two weeks. The last show? April 5th, I believe. I don't have no idea. I believe the last show was April 5th, I believe. He was in, what, for Latterdale for like two shows of Wayne?

I think maybe made one comment and then obviously put up that caption that was at everybody. April 16. That felt, you know, either at that point. No, those are all canceled shows. Sorry, Roy. April 5th is the last show. These remaining ones are canceled dates. April 5th is the last show.

I say we probably get a response. Oh, they're makeup dates, it looks like. Okay. April's when he's done. So he's done mid-April. He's done with the tour. he's had how many days off between Fort Lauderdale and Long Island? A week?

Yeah. That's time. I'm not mad at him coming out after April 5th. I don't think that's an L at all. But it can't go past that. It can't go past April 5th. Why? We just said earlier.

His tour is over April 5th. What are you talking about? He's got a whole week in between. Bro, y'all not understanding what this is, bro. Y'all niggas just want to be entertained and I get it. Yeah. But the nigga's not going to entertain y'all at the expense of him being fucking embarrassed in the battle. Oh, for sure.

He's not doing that. So all you niggas calm your fucking lawns, because you're only going to listen to the battle for three days. If he get his head smoke, y'all going to be like, oh, then he should have took his time then why he put it out. Yeah. Like the fans are fucking crazy. Like, you mad at somebody for taking his time to tailor some shit for a battle. But then if he responds too quick and loses and says, damn, but I was on tour, I'm like, well, you should have waited until he got off tour then. Okay.

So, mall, someone on your-in-your- Exactly. In your opinion, we're not doing three fucking, I'm not giving you three fucking months, seven months. In your opinion, what is a reasonable time frame for him to release this and it not take away from the value of the disc? What is a reasonable time frame? As long as we get it by the summer? The summer? Yeah. You're giving them four months.

From March 22nd. I said, as long as we get it by the summer, June, I'm cool. So three months. Didn't I just say, don't say three months? Well, that's his timeline. That's my timeline. Why, I can't say three months. What's wrong with three months?

Like I said, to Mal's point, timeline or not, whenever the fuck Drake drops it, it's going to have the effect that like, it doesn't matter when he drops it. It doesn't matter when he drops.

People just want to be, well, because we're used to getting everything now. And that's okay, and what I'm telling you is, this is not Amazon, this is not, this is not just for entertainment.

It's legacy. I understand. This, this, this right here, this Drake Kendrick shit, this is not just for entertainment.

Yes, it's going to be entertaining because these are the best of their time. These are the best of their generations. But this ain't just, these dudes ain't sitting in their respective corners thinking like, oh, this is just going to be fun. This call off. Bro, niggas' legacies is on the line.

Niggas. When niggas is out on that ladder is on the line. It's a lot. This ain't just no, yo, throw a shot at me and I'm going to throw one back and then, you know, throw one at me and I'm going to throw one back. This is like, no, nigger, I'm going to take your head off. The only thing in the strategic part, because again, I'm speaking from the fan perspective what I'm saying. So yeah, we want to be entertained. We want this quick. We live in an

era where things happen back to back to back. No pun. The fact that this record may be song of the summer changes things. Because I think Drake could have a great strategy of not replying for a while to prove to everyone how much that Metro album and the future shots didn't mean shit. Fucking Ross playing that shit in his car. The Kendrick verse like it came and went, look, just like control, it came and went. That could be a strategy. I don't think that's going to work when this song is not going to leave the charts. We're going to hear this everywhere. That's where I don't think Drake from a strategy standpoint can sit there and play the

I'll reply when I want to game. When anytime we walk outside in any setting, all of us are listening to this song. If the strippers are dancing to this, Drake going to take his ass to the food. He had a point with story of Adidon. Anytime that gets brought up, he's like, when was the last time you listened to it? Like, that cop out, which is, he's right. We don't listen to that song. but it wasn't made for that.

It was a reply and a battle. This is a joint that's never, this is Drake's strategy being used against him. That's where Meek looked insane. It was like, bro, back-to-back's not going anywhere. You have to reply now. That's what I'm saying, why he has to hurry up. He can't wait three months. This song is going to peak in the next two to three weeks and will not stop for the rest of the summer.

But you know, and it's like Julian just said, speaking to, you know, because again, we've got to look at all angles of this shit. If Drake drops a song, let's say he drops an EP right now. Six songs. This removes all of this shit from, his shit becomes number one immediately. Like this future album, I believe, debuted at number one this week. Mm-hmm. I did great numbers.

Thanks to this. The album is okay. I'm just saying, no. I don't think that is. But do we think, is it safe to say that it did great numbers because of, record. Sure. Because of that, because of that first week.

So still somehow in a way, this shit is attached to Drake. That just speaks to his influence and his power. Of course, but we ain't talking about influence and power. No, listen to what I'm saying, no. This is what I'm saying. If he decides to go that route and speak to that, this is what I'm saying, this is what I'm saying. All of this is just giving Drake the room to write and prepare for whatever, however, he's

coming back. because even though you having the number one song and the number one album debuted at number one that shit is still heavily attached to me he did that with push and it didn't really work he ended the Dupy freestyle with uh we'll send you an invoice for selling another 20 for you or whatever and then even tried to play the meme game again like he did with meek and posted on his Instagram an invoice to good music whatever the fuck

that backfired pretty fucking quickly no no no but this is this is a fuck all of that I'm talking about this album is number one debut number one this song is number one right now I just don't This shit is heavily Even though that's a fact You are correct I just don't know how much weight that holds

In a reply record He's like you know I made your album go number one Like okay yeah Holes weight What are you talking about? Yeah but also If it's a rapped

You mentioned me It's got to be wrapped correctly But you got to understand It's not a Kendrick It's not a Kendrick's album Is you applying to future Is he applying to Kendrick? He's all of them

Metro What I'm saying My nigga Everybody that's acting funny Right now everybody that's got some slit shit to say he's going at all of these things. He's definitely gonna make a thano's reference.

There's no way he's not gonna do the thano shit with all fucking five of them. Bro, what is he gonna have? What is he preparing for? It's not just Kendrick, bro. He's prepared. All of these niggas is showing their hand right now. Like, oh shit, you feel some type of way towards me too?

Okay, so you. Oh, you too? Like, oh, y'all niggas like, okay. Our conversation was specifically about responding and getting into a battle of words with Kendrick because I'm not giving you three months to reply to future in fucking Rick Ross. Yeah, but why y'all niggins ain't saying he got to respond, like that Cole got to respond right now.

No, we were going to get to him next. We were just trying to call. But I'm not hearing Cole's name enough. I'm not hearing it. You're not ringing all. You niggas is not ringing up. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, I was just about to say. So what the fuck is Jay Cole's excuse?

He's not on door. I was just about to say. I was just about to say. What is Jermaine Cole's excuse? I literally said how long are you giving Jay, are you giving Jay Cole to respond? Are you? Pull up the list. I said, pull up the list. I said, pull up the list of it. For the topics.

Pull up the list for the topic. Literally. No, you're saying Jay Cole's name's on here. Don't do that. Call's name is on the list. I just wanted to see where he was at. That's all. Just wanted to see where he was at.

Because that, to me, that's the nigger that niggas need to be talking about. How? Yes and no. He should have had something out. If Drake needed to respond already, what the fuck Cole needed to do? They've been passive aggressively going at each other for a whole decade,

Kendrick and Drake. Cole just got caught up in that big three. Because he chose aside. I'm not saying the clock is on the same time with him. Coal started that big three shit. No, he did. We started the big. The fans started that.

Kold didn't start that. Don't put me in the week because I never, I never, I never. I referred to them as the big three for, I did. Nobody pulled the tapes. I always said. Of this podcast. Pull the tapes. I never.

You bet you're saying big three. Since Roy's couch. Wait, I started that big three shit. No. The fans just happened. Okay. So I said I was not one of the fans that started that shit. Y'all keep talking I pull the fucking.

What tapes? I didn't start that shit. Either way, we all referred except for you to them as The big three. And then Cole, who pays attention to the internet, put it in a verse. So it got solidified. And then Kendrick used it in a verse. Man, listen.

I'm saying Cole needs to reply. So I'm going to stop. How much time got to respond? I just asked you that 14 times. How much time does Cole help? He got to fill up the air and his tires on his bike or some shit for her. I don't know. He's chilling.

He got to respond by next week. Cole is going to respond. Cole just got off tour. I said Cole got to respond by next week. Sure. I agree. Cole will respond. Why Cole got to respond by next week?

But, because Drake is still on tour until the middle of April. He has dream of a festival. Okay, but she said he got from April to the summer. So why the fuck Drake get three months and Cole got to respondent to the week? Because Cole is only responding to Kendrick. Drake is responding to all of these niggas that are acting funny and picking aside, drawing the line in the sand and obviously picking aside. So the extra eight weeks.

He's on Drake's side. So he's against all of them too. So the extra eight weeks that you're giving Drake is not for the Kendrick. It's for future in them. Oh, Drake is, he's responding to all these things. He's responding to rap. This ain't, this ain't going to be just for Kendrick. Kendrick is going to be a part of it, 1,000%.

But it's going to be other niggas that's, it's like a bundle package. It's going to be a lot of niggas that, into those records as well, because it's going to be more than one record. I think the focus is actually going to be future more than anybody, to be honest. You said what? I think future will be the focus of Drake's reply. The same way he was replying to push it, but only focused on Kanye. I think he's going to say a few words about Kendrick.

some light shit and then go in on well shit his last fucking album was all about future he's been talking about future we just didn't know that their relationship was so fractured though because they fuck the same women their friends like on what album was he told my future people have been screenshot old lyrics and shit

like I don't subscribe the bonus record and some of the records from the actual album are about future but we didn't know that that relationship was fractured I think and I spoke a lot this weekend about it I think Drake's going to talk most about future because that the hip-hop shit's hip-hop. With Kendrick, it's for sport.

It's the wrestling analogy. With future, that was personal. Yeah. And I think Drake feels embarrassed because over the course of Drake's career, he's constantly put people in positions to win. He's constantly put people to take their career to the next level. He stuck his neck out there for future, took him on this tour to do the tape together. And now that seems to be gone.

And I feel like Drake is tired of being used. He's historically been used by a lot of artists. He's also historically used a lot of artists. I think it goes both ways. But he's always been position A. And I feel like he's just, he's tired of this fucking cyclical bullshit. And he can't trust anybody. This is just a, this is just a product of you being too high for too long and

niggas wanting to see you fit. Yeah. That's all the shit. But also I do think is the first of shit. You've been on top for 17, 16 years, 17 years almost. Yeah. You got 17 projects. All of them over a billion stream.

like these are somebody sitting in the studio like man that nigga ain't he ain't tough as me he ain't from the streets like me niggas is talking like that so they're gonna fill away about this nigga's success I think now people are just starting to just show it yeah for sure it's hate for sure I just think that

the future applied I think Drake has the battle scars of trying to really rap on Duppie freestyle and then being beaten in that battle based off gossip and I think he has plenty gossip about future Hendricks. He knows what works in this era now because he lost to gossip. I mean, push still rap. Don't get me wrong.

Push is push, but he lost to gossip. And lost because he didn't reply. But he really tried to rap on Dupy, and I appreciate him for it. I don't think he's going to go that route now. I think he's going to go the messy route and he's going to expose future for millions of fucking things and he's going to throw a few shots at Kendrick. Cole on the other hand, I have no idea how he's going to approach this. that's who I'm most interested to see respond because we've never seen

what the call and Kendrick thing is just for sport so is the Drake and what line can you and can you not cross if we're just doing this for sport if that's my friend or at least my associate and we both agreed that this is just some back and forth

fun for hip hop and for the culture can I really give a good battle if I have to hold back we all we all know both of them can rap really well and would I be mad if just both of them wrapped more and wrapped back and forth, sure. But that's not really what dictates a rap battle. Now you guys are just wrapping with it.

But with Cole and Kendrick, Kendrick, like, yeah, Kendrick dragged Cole into it with that verse. But he really didn't say shit about Cole. No. He didn't. So, like, I get it. He has to respond, but he really didn't do anything to Cole in that verse. When it comes to the cold, wrestling and for a sport thing, yes, all of these people can go and can tell us and they can

tell their camps and they can tell all these people, oh, it's just for sport. And behind the scenes, we're all really cool. But all of these niggas have egos. And they all really do think that they're the best. So there's no just like, oh, it's just for sport. But if I got 17 billion streams, I am the best. I don't know, man.

Ovio mall, mall, mall, more. Taylor Swift has more streams than Beyonce. Is Taylor Swift better than Beyonce? It depends on who you ask. But if Taylor Swift walked in the room and said she's the greatest artist in the world right now? I mean she is. You could frown at it. You could argue it if you want. It's going to be a tough argument.

There's two, well, because now you're, you're scoffing at either if you're focusing on analytics and then you're bringing in the emotional, personal preference. That's the difference between hip hop and every other genre. It's hard to argue. We can all feel that Beyonce is the better artist than Taylor Swift, but when you get down to it, Mike versus Prince. People could say they like Prince more, but look what Mike did numbers-wise. He's the biggest. Taylor right now, biggest artist in the world.

Hip-hop, even though we care about numbers, we still have this battle shit. There is no battle between Taylor and Beyonce aren't going to put records back and forth to each other. The accolade shit disappears in a battle. That's why you get someone like a push-a-tie to battle Drake, the biggest artist in the fucking world. Where most of the world is going,

who exactly is push-a-tie? Yeah, but, and, Because they don't understand that in hip hop, that shit does not matter. So I don't really care what anyone's accolades are in here. I just know that these three can rap really fucking well. And now it's time to prove it. Because one person said, it's just me. No, but okay.

It's not the rest of y'all. Right, he did say that. Fuck the big three is just big me. You're not bigger than that nigga you're talking to, dog. You're not. But he's rapping. See, I'm saying that's the difference between hip- Taylor Swift can say that and be right.

and there's need there'll be no reply because that's not the culture. That's great. The culture, if a rapper says I'm better than you, I'm bigger than you,

it's just me and he is 100% your peer and your opponent, yes, you have to reply. I mean, in rap,

you supposed to, a rapper is supposed to say he's the best. Like you say, ego's ego and rap and hip hop. I'm the best. I'm the hottest nigga.

Some niggas you respond to it. And I think that's why Drake is going to respond to this because Kendrick is undoubtedly one of those. But every nigga don't deserve a motherfucking response. That's not what I'm saying.

I don't know if you're saying a formidable opponent. Some niggas you got to look at and be like, if you feel like that. But me responding to you, me responding, Drake responded to Pursher did more for Push's career than anything Pushers ever done. That's a fact.

No, that's not a fact. That was the biggest stage push that ever been on. Did more for his career? You don't think grinding did more for his career? Yeah. Then getting into a battle, a back and forth battle with the biggest artist,

arguably the biggest artist in the world? Oh no, I think it was great. A lunch table classic. But to say, to take away his entire career with Farrell. I'm not taking it's career. I'm saying that was the biggest moment of his career. That battle,

he had more eyes, ears on his music than ever in his life. That's a fact. Okay, but he doesn't get there without the huge moments like, he doesn't do festivals now because he... You're missing what I'm saying. Was that the,

biggest moment of Push's career yes or no? Yes. Why do fuck y'all keep making me repeat myself? He said, more. Stop doing that. All right. You know what?

My bad. Why are you keep making me repeat myself, though? My bad, Julian. Why do you keep making me? Because I think you need to add more to that sentence. No. Outside of his own music, yes. That is.

Was that the biggest moment of push his career? Yes or no. No, I think grinding was the biggest moment of his career. All right. You don't even get that battle without grinding. I hear you. That's what's up. Okay, but no.

Okay, so, Ma, I agree. This nigga had more eyes and ears and attention on his career and music. That moment, like, you think, let me ask you out something. Yonk's moment as far as impressions. Hold on, hold on, hold on. Y'all niggins don't think that these artists. You probably more eyes on them at the Louis Vuitton of the live streams. Stop it.

Y'all niggas don't think that, y'all don't think that these artists sit in studios, offices, and think, damn, how can I get this nigg's attention? how can I get him to say my name? How can I get him to respond? I push to that for years to try to get... Niggas do it on every level. Niggas do it on podcasting. Ooh, talk yo shit.

Biches do it when they're doing lashes. My lashes is the best. Biches do it when they're selling bikinis on Instagram. My candle smell like my pussy. Like, this is what... If the top dog, if the top dog acknowledges you, whether it be negative or positive, if the top dog acknowledges you,

college is you. That's a stat. It's a fucking stat. Okay. No, no. All right. So, so would you say... Especially when you won. This is where I think we're disconnected. I... Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.

Ma'all things push or lost? That's OVO, Ma. He's not lost. I just think Duffy is better than that... I agree with you, but he... But he lost. I think Dupy's a better song than the story of Adidon.

That's what I'm saying. Okay, but then Drake went and sat in a barber chair with LeBron and that was his reply. You would... I wish I could have responded. But that's a loss to me, that's on the consumer. You wanted the biggest artists to respond in the way that you wanted him to,

but the biggest artists in the world don't respond to what you want him to. He responds the way they want to me. That's a way. That's a hell. I'm not saying it's not an L. I'm just talking about the music that we got. He said he was too mean

and I didn't want to play anymore because he got too mean. He never said that. Yes, he did. Damn, he said he got mean? Yeah. He said he said he was too mean? Maul, you know what wrong.

Did he say he was too mean? Yes, he said. He said, you talked about him. my friends medical issues. And we were really upset and it made me mad. So I was like, this isn't a battle anymore. So your OVO accent. See, y'all niggas just be making shit up.

I'm just told my music. He didn't make that. I'm not saying, listen, I'm talking about music. I think Dupy freestyle was a better song and better bars than the story of that. And I agree with you there 100%. That's what I'm saying. I'm on record saying.

Okay, cool. But after someone replies and then you don't reply, but instead sit with LeBron in a barbershop that's not a barbershop. It's just a warehouse with barberschairs. They're on a set in Hollywood. And you say, hey, I couldn't do it because, like, he was talking about 40s medical condition.

And, like, all of us were in the studio, like, you just took it way too far, man. Like, now what? That's what he, that's what he said. That's an L. You lost. It's okay. You said, Drake, it's still to go. He said, what?

You took it too far, man. Like, no, this is what he said. Like, what is someone, like, really beat your ass? that's what he said He said that, yeah Is Drake really gonna beat Rory's head? I've been getting killed for taking his side

but I can be objective unlike every other fan on the fucking internet Drake is a go he lost to push it Now back to the original conversation Do you think somebody's biggest biggest point in their career

is when they have the most eyes on them Or the most numbers? One and the same Okay, so Jay-Z's biggest moment in his entire career is his New York song That's what you're saying That's his first number one record

So that's the biggest moment in Jay Z's career. If that's his first number one, I'm not mad if somebody says that's his biggest moment. Okay, then that's where our disconnect here is. Do I think push at the most eyes on him ever with Story of Auditon? Yes, I don't think that's even remotely his biggest moment of his career.

Comparatively, just so we close the loop on day. I think Jay would say, Blackout. Hard Knock Life was a way bigger moment in his career than the New York song with Leachke. What about selling out the garden in a day? That was a big moment. Sure.

But if we're just going off numbers and eyes being on you, then I don't know, what's Kanye's biggest song? The one with Lil Pump? I don't know. Because to me, I think that's his number one song. Like, that's not the biggest.

I just don't think eyes and numbers dictate the biggest moment in your career. I mean, I guess it's all optics. It's how you look at it. I do think that, that helped push her in a major way, having that moment with Drake with the biggest artist.

Sure. Oh, I'm not disagreeing there. I think that, and I think that because we spoke about it when we spoke to Pusher, Pusher inserted himself into that beef. Yeah, he's admitted that.

That's not by coincidence. That has done purpose. Back to what I'm saying. But he's from the school of, I'm beefing with Wayne, you next to Wayne. Everyone's getting shot. And then you end up being the biggest artist. I'm going to keep shooting.

I'm cool with that too. But I'm also cool with, niggas sit around in these studios and these offices and definitely definitely have meetings about how can I get the attention or response or how can I have a moment with this art? Because that's, to me, that's just as big as getting a fucking feature from Drake. We know what that does for niggas careers.

Oh, I think if Drake hopped on a pusher record, it would not compare to the light gears compared to them beefing. I agree with you there. So this is as close as it. We know he's never going to get a feature from Drake. No, of course not. So this is as close as it's going to get. All I'm saying is this is the music business. A lot of this shit is just business. Sometimes it gets personal. Sometimes it gets personal. A lot of the times it's business. This niggas is trying to figure out how can I elevate my brand? How can I get a different audience? How can I get in these rooms? How can I get on these stages? How can I get these verses? It's all business. Like we as the

consumers and the fans like to sit back and think it's, oh nah, you know, I'm fucking. This beef, it's lit. It's on. These niggas don't like you. These niggas be behind closed doors, FaceTiming for hours after dissing each other on songs. That's definitely a shot. This shit is business, man. This shit is wrestling.

A lot of this shit is wrestling. Sometimes the chair you get hit with in the back of your head hurt. But a lot of the times after a nigga hit you in the back of the head with the chair, you know what he doing y'all backstage? Damn, bro. I mean, I ain't, I didn't know that I was going split your head open. My back. this shit is all sport.

A lot of it. Sometimes it's personal. I think this situation is very interesting. Yeah. Because there are personal relationships here. It's a mix bag. A lot of these dudes have worked together. They've been on the road together.

They know a lot of each other's secrets. These is when you get the best battles when I know you for real on a personal level. That's why I think that future is going to be crazy. You think Russell Wilson is going to catch a stray or not? From future? No. Oh, I think he's a big up from Drake. He might be in the video.

with future son I mean you know that's sick listen man it gets different when you know you just got to know your opponent and which is why I'm saying it takes it's going to take Drake longer to respond

because he knows his opponents right now Drake gonna make a Donnis and not only that like I said it's niggas all over acting funny now people that Drake probably was like what the fuck I did to him yeah I'm all Drake and he was looking like nav Nav unfollow me

what the fuck you know how crazy, if I'm Drake and I wake up from just tearing down the stage of Florida, me and Wayne, and I wake up and see that Nav unfollowed me, you know how crazy that is? It's crazy that people really care about that. Let me see if Drake is still, because Drake is a sick niggas. He's still following NAF? No, I don't know. I was going to say, I think Drake is so evil. He'll make Adonis and future son become best friends and put him in Adonis' next music video. I could see that too. I'm so conflicted because I think it's sick that fans like look at artists following pages and shit.

And know when they unfollow? Like, how do y'all know that? But also it does mean... He's still following that. This thing is sick, man. You know how crazy that got to be? I'm the biggest artist in the world and we know each other personally.

You don't follow me and I'm still following you? You know how crazy you? You know how crazy you? You're still following Rose? Okay. Because I'm not... Well, he's kind of like, Rory. Rory don't unfollow nobody.

Because to me, it's like, when that happens, like that look... I'm going to unfollow you because now you unfollowed. Like, I'm not... I'm not going through to find your name to unfollow. You can just search it. Yeah, but if a nigga dissed me and you and your car,

you're pretty caught bumping that shit and you and you and follow me, oh yeah, you're getting them follow, bro. Nah. I might comment under the fucking video and like all your photos. Yeah, see, that's a whole, that's a serial killer way of doing this. So who do y'all think is going to have the better disverse? The better response verse, Cole or you think Cole going to come on his, Because I'm a Cole fan.

Y'all know I'm Team Cold regardless. Y'all think Cole gonna come on his kumbaya shit. And y'all have a place in hip hop and we're the fucking... Nah, not. I mean, I think it'll get to that. But the first few rounds is going to be... Oh, no, this is war. Like, nigga, I'm at your neck.

Like, you could have came out to her if you ass nicely. Because I think that's what it ultimately comes down to. Yeah. I think that Kendra just got tired of looking at these niggas hug on stage every night. Kendrick and Uganda kicking a soccer ball in the dirt. Yeah, like, I think Kendrick was just like, man, fuck that. I'm breaking up this little happy moment. Fuck that.

It's lit, nigga. I'm with you there. I don't think he wanted to be on that tour, but I know he was looking at his phone every night. Not saying that he wanted to be. Another speech in Tampa? But like, it's like, you know, like, Tampa really need to hear the history of these two again. Fuck all this. Fuck all this.

It's just like, nah, fuck all that, man. It's just me. And thank you, Kendrick for doing that. Like, as much as I do, I see everyone come together, work together. I love it. Sometimes let's break up this love. Love Fest for a second. Let's keep it.

Let's keep it sport. Let me see where your blade is at. Let me see how you, let me see, niggins. Because I, you've been on top for a while, but I don't think you really lit. I don't think you got it like that. I'm not mad at nobody doing that. But only if you're a formidable. Kendrick is one of those.

He has the right to feel that way. A lot of these other niggas that just got a couple projects that nobody, you can't say my name. I think I'm going to respond to you, though. Like, cut it out. I think Cole is just going to be the worst because he doesn't have the free range to cross the line. so I think he's in a box that's just weird because I don't think he has any issue with Kendrick

obviously doesn't have a issue with Drake so he's just going to have to rap really well and show why he's really good Kendra got to say these niggas name why does that matter so much dude I think it's corny in this record when you say they name what? If you shoot if you make this shot

you're too young man y'all niggas don't understand what it was when hit him up came on to hear rapper going at a nigga like that was like to hear beans and kiss the way they went you have to say the nigger's name you have to i actually thought it was even better when j mispronounced naz's name knowing gnaz's name called him naz you have to like now i got to you have to you have to like it's like i get it we know who he's talking to all the dog references

and you know we know we get it say that man's name dog but i don't say co's name call that name drink jane each other's like that call him jamee call drake arbery go there with it. I think Drake's reply is going to surprise a lot of people. I think Drake is a very underrated rapper. He's battling his own fucking... But I think that Kendrick's second reply is going to be... It's true, though.

A little crazy. Niggas know Drake is going to put out a dope response and a dope song like... Have you been on the internet? No, it's very much split where there's the OVO stand. And then everyone else that thinks Drake is overrated and not a rapper. I'm not one of those people. I think Drake is a very talented lyricist. and I think he's going to surprise a lot of people.

I just think that second Kendrick reply might be a little fucking crazy. It's just, it's like very crazy. That's just what happens when you just... Well, he does like the secondary voice.

People not gonna never... People hate you and people hate you publicly, but in private, they love you. Because like I said, at the end of the year, we look at anybody's top 10 wrap up. None of you niggas had Kendrick in there. I have.

But I always said... Are you top 10? No, you didn't. I had Mr. Morale, I think, is the number one album that I was listening to. No, Drake, all our number one.

No, the number two. He's talking about the year Mr. Moral came out. I'm not a Drake. Did you listen to our spaces? I didn't say you was a Drake hater. I'm not saying. I was the Drake dickrower.

He's always in my number one. A lot of these people just want to see people want to see Drake fall from the top spot. I get it. But you're not going to let them all. It's not. I ain't got nothing to do with this shit. I don't think he needs to have our help.

I'm just listening to this show. Listen, I want to see this. I want front road tickets for this motherfucker. I want to see it. I just don't. I'm not saying that it has to happen tomorrow. Just let me know when it's on when it's lit, nigga, and I'll be there. I'm pulling up to see what it's going to happen.

But fans say he got 72 hours. He got to do this. It's like, what? Why are we not putting this pressure on Rick Ross and Neff? You can't just unfollow him during this whole spec because you look clout chasing now. Now say something. Don't sit in your fucking Mayback and listen to the song and unfollow Drake. Ross, say something.

And that's one that I don't want to see, man, because them niggas make such great music together. I don't think they're going to make. I don't want to see that. All the memes with the fucking so hard to say goodbye to yesterday with like Future and Drake. Like. Oh, yeah. That is like a bad. All my,

all the toxic niggas were fucking depressed. Everyone was really upset about the future and Drake one. I was very upset about Drake and Ross. That show me that collage. I still want that album. I still want that out. What do y'all think of Ross, like a proper Ross disc record looks like?

I know he dabble with the 50 shit. I'm aware. It ain't, it's going to, but this era of Ross. What do y'all think of? You can't out luxury Drake, so it's not going to be good. How can you talk about Bel Air?

That's a really good point, too. He could do that with other rappers. Yeah, you can't out luxury Drake. Yeah. He's had all the scallop dishes you've had. Yeah, Ross Drake battle is, is, is, is, just didn't eat as much. A Ross Drake battle is stomach issues. Oh, yeah.

I do want to hear Ross get involved in this, though. All right, what's future going to do when Drake does reply? Because a future disc record. Hold on. When is Dreamville first? This weekend. You keep, man. What are about your own kid?

Next weekend. I'm sorry. Don't worry about mine. Worry about Cho Camp. Yeah, my bad. I ain't even know you had motherfucking, uh, the Dreamville. What's their logo?

The D. I ain't know you had the D-tadded on your lower back. My bad. It's big D. No, I'm, because I could definitely, I could definitely see Cole debuting it at, at that show. I think so, too.

I could see that. I think Cole's got something already. I could see him, I could see him giving us the response on stage. I thought Drake might do that one of these shows, but I could really see Cole do that. We had this, we've been having this conversation about Cole's next coming album and how is his chance to solidify himself within the big three and all of this.

Like, I feel like this moment is also his moment to let motherfuckers know that like you're not the three of the big three. You don't have to be. No, if not, if Cole replies correctly and then drops the fall off, which we've heard snippets that sound incredible. We know he's in the best shape he's ever been in. I think that's an even better way for Cole to solidify being number. number one.

Listen, that... You reply and then put out an incredible rap album. Oh, yeah. It's hard to debate anything at that point. Yeah, that's why it's like, fuck all this kumbaya shit.

You cool with Kendrick, you cool with Drake. Nah, knock them niggins' heads off. Do it. Oh, you want cold to go at Drake, too? Both of them. Fuck it. I'm number one. That's not going to happen.

When was the last time we got a real disc record on an album? I'm not saying the way Future did that cryptic intro. I'm talking... Say name. Ether on.

a stillmatic. Don't say names no more, man. I could see Cole throwing in his response in the fall off album because I have not seen a direct reply to a rapper in quite some time the way Ether was on Stillmatic. When was the last time we got that?

From a list rapper. Yeah, not the drill. These drill niggas say each other's name. Oh, yeah, no, no, the genre is that. Yeah, the genre is, just take my name. The genre is named. Yeah, like kill me and then. And they don't have albums.

It's just disc record. Just roll card. Attendance. Just packets. It's just a cannabis album. Well, yeah. I think Cole was still on the chopping block for time as well. What were your favorite jokes on the internet over this time frame?

Because the jokes that Big Sean can't have a date of himself have been like, I've been in tears. I feel so bad for that. We ain't even got Sean's name on the docket. Put out a great single. Put out a great freestyle. Put out a great freestyle. Got his tiny desk lit right now. Tiny desk is five.

He's, you think he's in 14 songs. Shut the fuck up, Julian. Because you don't even got Big Sean's name. You don't even have Big Sean's name on the docket. You only said fucking Drake for the last three hours. You don't have Big Sean's name on the docket. Say something about the record. What's it called, Ma.

What's the song called? Did you listen to it so much over the weekend? I didn't listen to it so much. What's it called? I know because I've been listening to it. Something precise? Cap. Impeccable.

What is it called? Right? I think. See, no. Y'all not doing Sean like that. They said all the ditty documents. because Sean's birthday is the day before mine. Precision.

There you go. All the ditty shit came out on big Sean birthday. They said, damn, I mean, can't have one day to himself. Yeah, y'all fucked up, man. And Sean rapping. Kendrick dropped right on his freestyle rollout. Next day, Diddy? I mean, this much is hard.

Sean got the tiny desk right now. You thought he was about to have a week. Yo, he thought he was going to have it. You lit. They sent in the motherfucking Homeland Security to puff. It's like, God, damn. I just dropped the tiny desk. to get new crystals.

Whatever crystals and shit he got in his crib, just swap him out. You know what's so fucked up is? I love that Sean has been talking about positive thinking for the last three years, but we may need to rework some of his thinking because it's not manifesting the way he's explaining it. And he's putting out good music, too.

Putting out great music. And Sean deserves his flowers. Even through the midst of this, I actually do think, like, jokes aside, it may have helped him a bit. Because a lot of people now are saying his rollouts being stepped on let's talk about how great Big Sean is

so I think it's helped a bit it's a yin and yeah when this drop the tiny desk I was excited I was like oh great that means we're going to get a Drake reply today there's no way they're going to let Big Sean have a tiny desk day we're going to get a nine minute Drake song

Oh my God man that's so fucked up I think Kendrick knew that big Sean shit was coming and that's why he yeah He did a crazy method by the way I don't think Kendrick is that strategic like as far as I want to make sure my big three disc goes out on the day Sean starts his rollout but I think he saw the timing and was like Metro can you drop your album on this Friday as the one before or after I could see it I think he waited to to turn that verse in so it landed on

this Friday and it just is so crazy because Sean had just mentioned the big three like he had just six hours before no he said you're you're so called big three He said, I don't know. He said, I don't want to compete with your so-called big, I don't have to. And they got a suplex out of the conversation. And I took that personal. Absolutely. Okay.

Don't worry. Don't worry. You won't compete with the big three. Baby, go hunt that out. Go home at your desk. Maybe I'm viewing his manifesting a little differently. Poor Sean.

Maybe he is the greatest manifester of all time in his positive thinking. Well, no, you got to have, you got to have. I don't have the, so, I don't have the energy to compete with your so-called big three. And then six hours later, Kendrick Lamar says, fuck the big three. It's just me. Yeah.

This theory might be worse than the Jay-Z stepping on all the Nause releases. This is like when you're trying to break up a fight and a nigga punch you in your face. Yeah. Like, no. It's like,

yo, I'm trying to call for peace. And then you also get arrested. Yeah. And you get pepper sprayed. It's like, I was trying to break it up. I was trying to break this shit up.

Yo, that shit is so fucking. fucking funny. Why does this album come out? Bro, whenever Drake respond. I'll get this, like, we're going to get the Sean album that day. Yeah, that day is when Sean's album is dropping. That freestyle is really good.

No, that's, it's dope. It's dope. I don't know why people just have big, I think people trying to make it cool to not like Big Sean and just make jokes and memes out of him. Well, about time, because they try to make it cool not to light cold for fucking 10 years. So, like, I'm happy as Sean's turn. turn has been his turn I'm telling them to turn it off

like this niggas this niggas a nice guy he's pretty cool and he can rap really well he's a great rap turn off to fucking hate he makes great fucking music

he's great singles like there's big Sean Stan well first of all I got attacked like me and Rory both got attacked by Kendrick stands this fucking weekend I didn't I knew that Kendrick has stands

but you know because Kendrick been like you know hibernating I didn't know that these niggas was still active in the streets because they turned my fucking Twitter the fuck up when all I tweeted was attacking coal and album mode it was a bold move that's all I tweeted they been on my ass ever since but I went on TikTok and I made a TikTok talking about trying to help women um get through this beef so they know what's going on so they can impress their man so in part of the so young Miami what did you do I made a TikTok for

women who don't know hip hop you trying to give a step by step and I was like hey if you don't know hip hop but your man's in love with hip hop he's probably jumping up and down right now you want to know what's going on. This is what's going on. So I explained the big three beef in layman's terms, right? Roe simple. I also mentioned... I'm sure all that shit was wrong.

I'm sure Demarice was on this saying shit. They was like, that ain't how that went, but okay. And here's how to throw a lob in 2K. Anyway. L1, square. Anyway, I said that, but one of the things I mentioned, I said, so your man is either on one of their sides or if he's one of those like odd hip hop fans, he's like, honestly, fuck the big three.

Big Sean belongs in the big. Big three. When I said that, there were so many men in the comments like, big Sean does belong in a big three. Fuck Cole. It should be Kendrick, Drake, and Sean. And I was like, come on. I mean, that's a lot.

Bro, they were violent. I'm like, y'all really believe this. Sean wouldn't even say that. He deserves his flowers. He's incredible. People love an underdog. Cole isn't an underdog anymore. So now.

He paid off his student loans. So it's like, what do we relate to? Yeah. Yeah. I get it. I did have that moment in D.C., which I was explaining them all at meet and greet. of like, Kea being the first girl that I've ever dated that, like, wasn't super in a rap like that.

So trying to explain what, like, was happening was one of the toughest things I've ever done. Because she just kept asking, like, but why? You just send in my video. So, like, they're attacking each other. Did someone say something wrong about the other one? I was like, well, not really. It was like subliminal sort of. She was like, so did someone say something about someone's family or like, why would they want to,

attack they all seem pretty successful and they have a lot of fans why would someone do that i was like okay you're making a valid point but that's not how the shit goes yeah no it's not how that works it's just fuck you for bringing logic that's all she was trying to she's like wait so drake and coler on tour but then kentrick just didn't he do like didn't he break a record or something for his tour i was like yeah yeah he did so why would why would he be mad i was like i can't explain why he's mad yeah there's no explain i have nothing yeah no there's no explains not to somebody that doesn't really follow the music and the artist like

because even if you do it's still a lot of questions that you have I don't know why these niggins is I'm following Drake I couldn't tell you like what the fuck happened what bar was it what bar was it what bitch was it like what the fuck like and I'm following a nigga because he fucked the chick that you fuck is beyond

I think that's just a laundry list of things that just being one of it I don't know I would like to know the messy part of my brain of why they can get off of it. Where do y'all have? Who do you have being victorious coming out of all of this? Whenever it happens. Cole.

You know, she waves her flag much harder than I do, but I'm, I'm Dreamville. What do you mean? That's not true. Julian said that's not true. Julian came on here. Boss was just in your house at 5.30 in the morning. Boss was in my house at 5.30 in the morning. This is wrestling, but damn, I can't really talk about it. I can't talk about the whole fucking thing.

I know if you trust me that goes what I can't. We all know things too that we're not saying. I know it sucks. You don't have to say I can't talk about it. Well, it's a podcast, so I have to say something. Oh, I know a lot of shit that I can't talk about. Well, yeah, but I heard about a phone call you had that you can't talk about.

I didn't have any phone call. But anyway. Tell us about it. Anyway, um, you got Drake. So you got Dreamville. You're obviously taking Drake. You got Cole. You're going to be mad at me.

Define the winner. What does that mean? Out of all the records that we get, bars that we get, who do you think the same way you feel like pushing one to Drake shit, who you feel will come out of this being the victorious? If the three of them all participate in this battle, right? Not, not. No, because he changes it.

All three of them. All three of them. All three of them. How is this not a fair question to ask when he was just saying, Drake won the push of battle because he sold more records? I have to ask the stipulations here. I said that? I never said that. He thinks that song is better.

That's what I said. That's not. Well, he said he said he thinks Duffy's freestyle is better. That's not what he said. All right. I didn't say nothing about it. If the three of them participate in a rap battle, I'm taking Kendrick in the end.

Okay. You're only saying that so they get out of your bench. No, I think Drake is going to be a way bigger competitor and shock people much more than they think. That's all I'm saying. I think Kendrick is too prepared. I think he's been waiting on this.

I think he's been clipped up wanting to say everything about Drake. He just needed a real excuse to do it. And I think Drake is going to reply. and then Kendrick is going to let out 10 years of his thoughts and I think he'll be the victory. And yeah, I want Drake to respond in 48 hours, knowing that a nigga got 10 years of thoughts

he about the release. But Drake also has 10 years of thoughts. He don't be thinking about the... But anyway, I got... So now... That's Cap. Look at mom. Look at mom. Look at all. I'm not going to let him get that shit off

because everybody, especially real Drake fans know how... Part of the reason that he had the push of fucking diss the push of issues, Drake is a fan of... hip hop. He's been a student of hip hop. He has looked up to all of these niggas. He admires all of these niggas. He listens to all of these niggas. He listens to all of these niggas. He's very much involved. So we're not going to sit around acting like Drake is just

walking around on air Drake like, I don't see none of these niggas. No, he cares about what Kendrick has to say because he respects Kendrick's fucking pen. So don't do that. He don't see. He don't care. He does see it. He does fucking. I'm saying I don't think that he has 10 years worth of emotions directed towards. Not emotions, but he has some bars. I think they'll unlock them after hearing that. My early favorite is obviously Drake, only because he's battle tested. Early favorite. That was my early favorite, too.

Only reason why I say early favorite is because that might delete later two shit that cold drop. I think that's the best I've ever heard J. Cole rat. I heard some more of those records that are on that shit. That full Baza him record? Holy shit. Like, I wave my flat. That might delete later two shit is. No, they go.

Those snippets sound insane. Damn. Like, like, so old are so good. So that's what I'm saying. Like, Drake is battle tested.

We've seen him in this arena. We've seen him get into it with our rappers and go back and forth. We've seen that. So I'm taking him. But if Cole is rapping, anything like he's rapping on that might delete later too shit.

And that's just tailored with names and shit. It could be a different outcome. I think if Cole was given the same grace of crossing the line that Drake and Kendrick will get, yes, I would put Cole maybe at number one at this point in their careers. Like even how we were talking in Patreon hours before that Kendrick shit dropped, Cole is in the best shape out of the three of them in my opinion right now. I just don't think he's going to cross the line because he has no reason to.

So that's why I don't, that's why I think he'll be number three. Cole? As far as this battle goes, he can't like. I think he crossing lines when to come to Kendrick. I think, no, I think they're friends and I think. No, they definitely friends. But that's something. I'm talking crossing lines.

He's how disrespectful shit. Yes. Yeah, but you can cross. I think Cole is going to put out an amazing reply that just proves how good of a rapper he is. What he's achieved? What's crossing the lines, though, too. What's crossing the line? Dirt.

Revealing dirt or something that they want. Now, I think if these niggas start doing shit that might fuck up a nigger's marriage and shit like that, then it's like, all right. Well, if he calls Kendrick overrated or like said something along. Oh, that's definitely. That might be the opening bar. Nigger, you overrated. Nobody want to hit him alien bars. I don't think he's going to do that.

If you think Cole will even go that far, then, yeah, I think Cole is a contender for sure. I don't think Cole's going to go down. I don't think he is. I think he's going to tell us his story of how he did all this shit. And now he's better than us. And that's it. Y'all got Lyskin Jermaine fucked up.

No, he's about to be disrespectful. I have his, like, moral high ground fucked up. Like, I just think he's going to prove that he rats really well. And we're going to like it. This is a battle. This is a battle. We watch battle rap.

We watch battle rap all the time. Them niggas cross all lines. That's different. No, it's not. This is a battle. It's a battle. It's a commercial battle. Yeah.

I don't know what commercial you're talking about. These niggas is about to start talking very disrespectful. Drake is going to cross the line on Kendrick. Kendrick's going to cross the line on Drake. And I think Cole is going to be over there just rapping really, really well. And you think Cole going to be like, hey, hey, hey, hey, don't say that. You think that's going to be cold stancing this whole thing? No, I just think he's going to show him.

Man, Cole going to be right there talking about Kendrick. Like, nigger, you dressed like a Haitian cab driver. Get out of here. He going to be all on that nigger's neck. That would be great. He's going to be on. I hope that happened. I'm going to see.

Did you see the picture he posted in the studio? Wait, when he was doing the Mexican burpees? No, when he had on, y'all didn't see the picture. Oh, when he was outside doing the burpees? No, in the studio. Fuck that. He was in the studio. This nigga had on a butt, like a collier shirt.

You know how tough those are? Tucked in his jeans with some wild shoes on. Y'all didn't see that picture? Of Kendrick? Well, I thought that was Photoshop. Well, who am I to talk? Because I'm definitely not the fashion guy, but. No, but I'm saying.

When you have pictures like that currently circulating. None of them can really talk fashion. When you have pictures like that circulating, oh, best believe I'm using one of those as like as a bar. Dissing his clothing? You think that's the... Cole can't dis Kendrick's clothing. Respectfully.

None of them can. Yes, he can. Did you guys see while we were recording? Yay just threw his hat into the ring. Oh, God. He posted this. This has stayed in the ring. This just happened.

I was going to read it off my phone, but if one of you wants to read it. He says, everyone knows I watch Kendrick on no more parties in L.A. Everyone knows I watched Drake at the Free Hoover concert. Everyone knows I brought Adidas into this culture. And I took them out. Everybody, everyone knows a lot.

Lada, Demna, Virgil, Jerry Kim, all worked for me. I may Jesus, Dark Fantasy, Pablo, graduation, throwing 808s. I may runaway devil in a new dress, father stretch. Well, actually, didn't Drake write that, but okay. I am the only person to come back. Ironically. I am the only person to come back to number one after cancellation. There was only one goat.

I stand by me. My friends call me yay. He got a little tiny bit of a point. He has a point, but why? Because all of this is, for the most part. He has a point, but he don't rap better than none of the niggas we just talked about. That's the fact. He also was on Drink Champ saying, could you imagine if I could have Drake write all my rap lyrics?

Yeah. So what do we talk about? Kendra Cole and Drake are far better rappers than Kanye West. Kanye is one of the greatest, Kanye is arguably the greatest producer, not just music, producer, clothes, fashion. And probably has the best catalog in rap history in that argument. Yeah, we're not talking about that. I'm just. When it comes to the pen, nah.

Yay is not those three. Sorry. No. He said his big, he said his big yay. Fuck y'all, time about it. I mean,

it's Kanye fucking West. He's a. Cannot argue that. We don't even get Kendrick, Drake, and Cole if we don't have Kanye West. He is the goat of this whole shit. Can't,

can't argue that at all. But it's kind of weird like, here we go with inserting yourself. Like yeah, we already know you the goat. Yeah, nigger like ain't nobody saying you not. But here you know,

I get it, man. You know. Are those his peers? No. No. Those are his kids. All three of them are his kids. Yeah, okay. That's what I think.

He's on another level. Respectfully, his kids. Did Yee have a big three? Who was Yeh's other two? Wayne. Wayne and, I don't know. Definitely Wayne, for sure.

T. Payne? You're joking, but I mean, T. Payne was a singer. Nelly. Sort of. Oh, 50, no? Even though it's kind of at the tail.

But did he not determine that that that's what ended 50? 50s run was. so big, but it was so short. Yeah, because Kanye kind of that ended it, kind of. I think this kind of speaks to Cole, Kendrick, and Drake as far as their run as the big three. I don't know if there's been a big three

for that amount of time. Ever. We're still talking about them as the big three, like, years after what should have been their peaks. And Cole hasn't even hit his peak yet. Like, Yay is an anomaly because he's outlawed, like all his peers that he was competing with every year, whether 50,

but yeah, but that's not. Wayne, whatever. Like, he's still. But that's not That's just not fair because he's You can't put 50 and Kanye next to each other Because well they did Rolling Stone did And 50 got a watch I'm just talking about just artists like it's too

50 is just rap Kanye is so much bigger than Well that's why that moment Between graduation and Curtis like proved The shift in hip hop at that time But then you could say that same thing Excuse me about Drake Drake is not just rap

Drake is pop Drake is fucking I said that already Yeah no but I'm But Kinei opened the door for that, at least for that to go commercial and for younger guys to feel like they could do that. Yeah, of course. That's like, that's why I, do we need that post from Kanye? Like, we know.

That was just Kanye. I just do feel like run DMC. Maybe brought Adidas into, like drug dealers, maybe brought Adidas into the culture. Kanye, you know how Kanye gets nervous when his name drops in the algorithms. He got to find a way to get right back at the top of that shit. So he just saw, he just checked today and was like, when I'm trending at, number 19, no, no, no, no. No, no, no.

I do think, sorry, Bob. I do think he does. Corisha's high to me. Young Miami trending high to me. No, no, no. No, no. Oh, no. Oh, no.

Oh, no. Yeah, I felt the same fucking way. Let me. Let me drop my stash real quick. She had, it was me. I snitched. Roy caught the cop car. And it took a helicopter ride.

Oh. Let's go ahead over the Star Island and make sure my tax paying dollars are going to good use. Yeah, what are the odds? Rory never goes down to Miami. The one time you're down there, home. One time pump about to get raided. Now you're in a chopper.

Brandon ball over here. He got his hair all out. You look like the Syracuse orange. Yeah. Syracuse. You see the bangs? The Syracuse Mule. The Syracuse Mule. Connected with some people that knew Demerison.

He's the Syracuse Mule. He bought me a Syracuse shirt another day too. It's shit starting to make sense. Yeah. He was in Syracuse other day. No, I was thrifting and I found a Syracuse shirt. Oh, I thought you said, yo, he bought me something from Syracuse other day. about to be like,

nah, we're joking and we laughing, well, what the fuck going on? The orange man. Roy tucking kilos in that little big orange body.

And your little fucking, um, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a, what is it? Your armate tote bag. We start checking that little bit.

This is a Rory ass outfit. That is Rory. That's me. I'm an orange man. Legitimately an orange man. Shout out to the gang. Shout out to the gang. Shout out to the gang.

Oh, no, Yes. Genius. It's backwards, though. You can't say genius. Genius and it was backwards. Not because you put everything upside down.

And my ass. Oh, okay. Yeah, she was trying to put it in your... She was trying to talk to me in my lingo. My lingo. We got any voicemails? Holy shit. Oh, yeah, we can do voicemails.

Oh, well, quickly, Beyonce album, midnight. Woo-woo! The St. Texas. Ma'all, I know you were kind of half-joking, but I'm disappointed that jelly roll is not on the feature list that we put out today. I was really upset. I was really upset. I wanted to see Jelly Roll.

man, jelly roll and Beyonce. That would have been fire. I'm excited for the Miley Cyrus record. I'm hating on the Post Malone feature being on the, just that list that they released today, but I'm probably going to like it. Yeah, I'm not mad at Poe. I mean, Post doesn't make bad music.

He doesn't. He doesn't make bad music. He tricked us, though. We thought we thought Post was going somewhere else with his music. No. When we first, he was. White Iverson to what he is now? I kind of. It's a whole different person.

Oh, I agree with you. Yeah, he tricked this for like a day. I was going to say, what other rap record did he put out after that? That was it. I'm just saying the way we met him is not the man he is today. Oh, no, it's definitely some culture vulture points that could be brought up in that regard. I'm not going to use that, but it's just a little funny. We're not doing that to post.

We embraced that. We thought he was like, okay, he's going to get into his Wiz Khalifa bag a little bit. Is that not one of the definitions of a creative culture vulture? You went into hip hop to then get hot and then a. immediately left to go do the music he wanted to do and then he's then shit then shited on hip hop in multiple interviews has he done a feature and with a hip hop artistage yeah i was gonna say one of his biggest records with sway lee congratulations well that's a pop record but sway lee is the i asked me about hip-hop and that's who you bought up he's hip-hop he's not hip-hop yes he is he was that

puffs crib i'm not oh so are you you are you out here throwing hooks yeah because i'm hip-hop yeah but you got to stop but what you was doing it let's we ain't we don't we don't actually right question sometimes. Yeah, what the fuck was you doing in? Didn't you say you had a glass of wine and don't remember shit? Didn't that happen at Puff's house? No, I was very coherent at Puff's house. And he snuck in.

He didn't sneak in to Busshouse. You drank from the good bottles. He snuck in. You cannot sneak into Puff's House on New Year's in. Hey, you can just bring some drugs. I was like, oh, sure, come. I came with no drugs. I came with no drugs.

Name was on the list. Beyonce album tonight. Cuevo's on. Congratulations. Sorry, that's a rapper. Post Malone is not. hip-hop. Thank you, Julian.

That's her hate it. Beyonce record tonight. Country record. I'm excited to hear it. I want to see what we did. I want to see what she did with this country album. Are you going to listen with a open ear as? Yeah.

Not listening like, oh, I don't like country music, but I got to talk about it. I like country music. I don't dislike the country. How many people are going to pretend to like country music? I never pretend to be someone that listens to country all the time. Yeah, I'm not banging it every day. But, it's some country records that come on sometimes on the radio that I like. I was kind of hoping for a small town remix.

Oh, you know the country when you're in the store shopping somewhere and it comes on. You look, I know that record. It's a country record. I need from her a, I took my key into the side of his pretty little soup. Yeah. I think that's what I need a song. I think that's the vibe most of it's going to be, to be honest. Need that.

Well, we'll see. It's night at midnight. Does 16 carriages growing, you guys? Growing. Not on you. I meant Julian and M. I liked it from the gate. What was the other record that she put out that?

Texas Holder. That one. I didn't really, that really wasn't, I ain't really, you know what I'm getting to that like that? But I like the, the what's the name one? Carriages is crazy. Yeah, the other one, Texas Hold'em. It was a little cheesy country to me. Oh, we got to, we got to mention that fucking R&B tour of R&B tours.

That's great to happen. Maxwell with Jasmine Sullivan and October London. And Maeda's on that too, right? She's on tour with Chris, I think. Oh, Chris, okay. There's someone else that was on that. Either way, that's old as bad. Yeah.

So, so if you. bring a girl, is that your girlfriend? Absolutely. You can't go see Maxwell with just anybody. You can't go listen to Jasmine Singh live with just anybody. That's somebody you care about. If you don't have a prospect, do you go alone? No, you stay home. Take that friend with benefit that we talked about. You just got to go and take the girl you fucking at the time. That's the

Yeah, okay, you can. You can. But now if she start acting like your girlfriend, don't be mad. No, Maul, remember, we reiterate. We got to remind her that she's just your friend with benefit. All right, good luck. You have a bag of bitch at the show. You have to encourage her to go on stage with Maxwell. You got to figure her during the show.

You know, your day is coming at the podium. And I just want to make sure you have, because you like to eloquently post these captions on your Invisalins page. You guys were making fun of his Invisalins, like his invisible. Invisal and his things that he writes. In this Patreon, in this Patreon description,

he said that Rory and Lo-key were discussing which was more impactful to Dirk's career in between billowing hookah clouds. In between billowing hookah clouds, we catch glimpses of demer. This is what he wrote in our Patreon description. That's for Patreon. That's behind the paywall

if you want to go check that out. A few words. I came off my vacation. So we did appear to be billowing. Filled with air and swelling outward. I've never heard that word in my life. What? Of smoke moving or flowing outward.

with an adulting you know I can't read motion did you know that word before this you just can't read okay sorry what do you want for me teach me to read then all right hold on I don't even teach me to read everyone's just shitting on me for not knowing how to read someone teach me to fucking read then

stop making fun of me it's not that read it's not a part of the solution and not a part of the problem or he is dyslexic it's not that he can't read he's dyslexic now you're just putting you see you see you're not dyslexic no

now you're just died Diagnose me with shit. I should just diagnose you with some shit. I'm sorry. You're not a doctor. And then she tried to make it like nice. Like, don't worry.

He's just, you know. dyslexic. It's okay. Wait, wait, wait, since we're talking about this mall

because you weren't here for this argument. What record was more impactful for Dirk's career all my life or laugh now, cry later. It's not even a debate. It's the Drake.

Yeah. We should know who we're talking to. That's just, it's not just me. This is a fact. You can look at the numbers. It's like putting your product in target. Julian.

Julian? This music talk, guys. Yeah, I'm done with, I ain't gonna lie, man. Until I hear a motherfucking battle, I'm done with hip hop. I'm not downloading none of you niggas albums. It's country time, right? I'm not streaming none of you niggas albums. I want to hear these niggas rap and battle.

And then after that's over with, I'll get back to download now. But none of you niggas drop nothing until this battle's over. One quick question. Does anyone not put out their reply because of the Beyonce album? Obviously. To let that go. Big Sean. See, I think this is one of those rare cases where all it is,

This shit trumps Beyonce's album. I agree. Because she's doing the country route. Yeah. This was Renaissance way different. Yeah. But she's doing the country shit. This is like,

Beyond B is trying something with this. Yeah, I think anyone could put the creative bag. She's a Texas girl. Obviously, the country roots are there. Unless this shit hit. Unless it's not true country

and it hit. But even then I still feel like a... But when Beyonce don't hit, though. No, no. It's going to hit. Beyonce always hits. What y'all are saying is you think Beyonce is just trying something.

When I say it's hit, I mean, it hits the masses. Because she was just trying something with Renaissance too. Yeah, but no, but trying something is this is not, Beyonce is not a country artist. Obviously, she's from Texas. She has the roots. She's been to the rodeos growing up. She's, you know, she has all of that in her back.

She heard country music been around it, been around the culture, obviously, but she was a different type of artist. That's not her artistry bag. This is like her putting on the hack, you really get into her roots, trying a new sound. She just gave us the Renaissance, who was new sounds on it. dance, but even that's closest to something

Beyonce already did. And it was dance vibes. Lion King didn't really count in my opinion as a full Beyonce album. It had been so much time. Renaissance was like, all right, shit, let's stop what we're doing. But if a cold disc record

drops the sink tonight, oh, more people are going to be talking about that than this Beyonce album. And that's one of the rarest occasions. I agree with you. So, Cole wouldn't do that to his aunt. To who? His aunt.

His T-T. sure they're like they're like two three years apart if that not even less than that how old is Cole Cole got to be at least 38 39 actually yeah you're right they might be the same age he's 39 yeah and Beyonce's 42 yeah but he's been she's been running around I call no girl three older than me I'm talking about the industry you know but it's because but see that goes to show Beyonce and Jay Z's age gap because Jay Z is definitely um he's not bro for Cole he's definitely he's But Jay is 54? Exactly.

But that's why when I say Auntie, Jay is uncle. So naturally, Beyonce would be Auntie even though she's closer to Cole's age and she is Jay's. That was our point. Yeah, I was saying more relationship-wise, not age-wise. Yeah, not age-wise. Okay, got you.

Yeah. All right, well, do we got some voicemails, Julian? You've got mail. Yeah, enough music talk. So we have a guy here that is tired of being the rebound and he wants to be taken seriously outside of the bedroom. So let's give him some advice. I ain't know you was doing it like that, player.

Outside of the bed, we want them to take you serious. Yo, what's good, guys? Evan, someone's going to. Just being a fuckstick. Question for the merits. Of course, everybody can chime in. But I've always been the rebound of the guy that girls get with and, you know, kind of make them feel bad about themselves

and they're trying to discover, reclaim their sex in your shit. And we've always been told I get a good dick. but never been a dude that they stay with. Like me. And now that I'm older, getting close to my 30s and shit, trying to calm down and settle down with somebody finding one,

having kids and shit. Like, how do you go from being the dude that everybody sleeps with to kind of feel better about themselves to like keeping somebody and finding that one? Of course, any advice or jokes, I'm down for.

Appreciate it. Well, first of all Maybe you're just not that deep, Duke Well, it sounds like he deep in a well I don't know what the fuck He's recording the hash But um That was funny mom

First of all Trying to settle down to your 30s Like you just turn in 30 He's still 20 something Yeah Fair But all right Let's say as someone

That's tough man Cool As someone that Want to settle down In their 30s But has always been Treated like a hoe Can you turn a hoe

into a house husband. Because I think a lot of girls might be just looking at him. Like, you just, you're dense. There's not much here. You don't have much conversation. You're just good at fucking and you're attractive. And that's what we do to you. When men are whores and

you're trying to change that narrative about yourself. You have to completely rebrand everything. You got to start buying your groceries at different stores. You have to do the TikToks and Target. You got to start. motherfucker. You got to change your wardrobe. Yeah. You got to start wearing more suits. You got to dress like, what's his name?

Corrata Scott guy. Jonathan Majors. You got to have some slave boots. Yeah. Yeah, you got to completely read. A lot of p coats. A lot of morning affirmations on the IG story. At least three coats I can touch the floor. You got to start making Get Ready with Me videos and show yourself at church.

Church is definitely a- Gotta start going to church. Got to go to church. Post a rose window every Sunday. giving back a lot of hashtag lunchback you have to join a book club but that's ho shit to me

everything you're doing you gotta join a book club you gotta you gotta let the women know listen give me the things to read to help me in this next level of my life and suit for the soul yeah like I gotta feed you gotta nourish your soul more

you gotta start fasting you gotta do a lot of things as a man to get that whore juice off of you but what happens when to your point earlier in the episode like when a ho is a ho you can't really change much of their DNA and who they are. But he's not a ho.

That's what he was suggesting he was. He called himself a ho. Yeah. I see, but I think he, that could work for two years for him. He's just a man. I think you're projecting on him.

He said that he's in ho. Well, okay, because I kind of relate to what he's saying. I think he became, though, I think you need to change the environment in which you're seeing these women. If you want to be taken seriously,

start doing, find a bitch and don't meet her up at midnight. Maybe do the coffee walk route. like have a day date, like have them see you as a person and not just as a fuckstick. And don't have sex. Fucking a bunch of women

that are coming out of relationships. Like have some accountability here. Why do I keep being treated this way? They just want to use me to get back out there. Stop allow them. And also, yeah, don't try to wife one of these girls that's fresh out of relationship. No, he's not trying to do that.

He's just tired of being used. He wants to find something significant. Find one, but don't find her, don't make a girl you've been fucking at 2 a.m. the longest over the course of last year, the one. He can't because they don't even want to fuck or talk to him unless it's 2 a man. Man, go get a girl.

You since you call and you said my name directly, let me tell you, go get a girlfriend. Go get a bitch. And this is not, this is very, I'm not being a girl's girl right now. This is not a pro woman stance. This is actually very toxic. Go get one of them girls that fell in love with the dick because I know you got at least one, but you ain't think about her because you ain't like her like her like that. Wife her up.

No. Post it on Instagram and all of these bitches. who used to think of you as just a hoe treat that bitch like she has sunshine coming out of her pussy. So her people, her people. Just go use another girl and post her on Instagram. Hey, he didn't call me and ask

how to be a good fucking guy. I'm not giving him advice. He wants a good result. He wants a relationship. I wish y'all would let hush and let me talk. So just find some innocent woman and use her because he was used? All right, go ahead.

He said he wants to know how to get women to stop. looking at him like a fuckstick. He did not call me and say, how do I have a functioning healthy relationship? You didn't ask that. That's not what the fuck you asked for advice on. You want to know how to get women,

other women, who stop looking at you like you are a whore and only good for your dick. The answer to that is, is to go get a fucking girlfriend, post her on Instagram, treat her like sunshine comes out of her fucking ears

when she rises every day if when her head lifts from the fucking pillow. And a bunch of bitches will be in your DMs trying to be your next girlfriend. That is how you get bitches to stop looking at. You want to give a girlfriend. You want to get trauma to an innocent girl. They're not going to try to get some toxic bishops to DM you.

They're going to try to fuck you too. Yeah, like they're going to try to fuck you too. If you want to just get a bitch. Women want to fuck you based off the fact that you treating another woman good. Like they like, damn. Like, I want some of that. It's not about it. It won't just be about him.

Listen. When he needs to do. The next step is him getting in a healthy relationship. Again, he didn't call and ask for how to get in a healthy. relationship. He wants to change his image. Going to the fucking book club and on that extra shit is not going to get him the results that he wants. That's not going to get you the results that you want. Changing your groceries, changing your clothes. Now you're just a dolled up whore. It doesn't matter. That's not going to change your reputation. Stop hanging out in the clubs.

You need to be known as the nigga that go crazy about his motherfucking girlfriend. Once you are that, then you can start exploring bitches that you want to be in a healthy relationship with because they have a point of reference. You don't have a point of reference right now. Why would anybody want to be in a fucking relationship with you when you don't have nothing to show how I know how to be in a relationship. Okay. See, now you're on to something.

At that point, learn how to fucking do anything outside of fucking. Learn to have a real conversation. What else do you do outside of fucking? I'm sure he knows how to do all of those things. How do we know that? It sounds like you just dropping off the dig. I'm giving advanced information.

So beginner thing is, if you don't have a fucking person. If you don't have a personality, you were a whole for Matt Long and you had mad personality and knew how to hear a fucking conversation. And that's why they all stayed. This is how to carry a conversation. He's a relationship.

This is how the Kendrick and Cole shit is great to go. Nah, no, you was a hoe for mad long before you. Hey, Kenny. You was, this shit is about to go.

Hey, Kenny. Oh, man. This shit about to go a whole other. I'm telling you, y'all laugh. And I, right.

No, I'm not going to let the merits do that. Because you're not just going to have this poor man and attracting. Yeah. You're going to have this poor man attracting women that he doesn't want. He wants to be in a relationship. He not only wants to not be a ho. He wants to be in a real relationship.

He's made that clear. Go get some fucking skills that people will think you can be in a relationship. Don't drag a girl through that. Don't find like the six month. Agreed. And I'm saying, to be the penultimate pussy. These women,

I think he may have an ego and think that these women really like him just because they think he's the best fuck they've ever had. Or maybe he offers nothing but being dick. And that's what they want to use him for. Which is what sounds like. Go learn some other skills, sir. What's his name? Evan?

Go learn Mandarin. Evan. Yes. Oh, you got to do Evan? Listen, Julian, Julian,

you know, and there's another conversation outside of fucking. Go figure out some other show. shit where they're like, oh, it's, there could be another layer to this person. Yes, do that, but there's bad, I know mad hoar, like Julian knows boss. Like, there's another layer to him. I know mad male whores, but they have money. No one boss is a layer is crazy.

Poor boss. I know male whores who have money. They have status. They have, they have, money doesn't mean you could carry a conversation. They're fun to be around. They have, the horrors, I know have the best conversation in the world. But they are horrors and they know that they are horrors. Women would love for them to be more.

But they're whores. Once you're recognized as a whore in the streets, and your small town, know that you're a whore. Same thing with women. You have to get rid of that stain. They have to know you as that nigger that's flying. Y'all missing it.

All you got to do is get a bitch that can fight. Once you get a girl that can fight, the mother bitch is going to disappear. They're not going to talk to you. Every advice is just so bad. Get a girl that know how to fight. Get a girl that know how to fight. Publicly.

So I'm telling you. You know a girl that suck dick publicly. What's her name? Only fans. I said I'm the only girl. I'm the only person on this podcast that sucks dick. I'm telling you how to get women to fall in love a shit. She added publicly.

That was a shot. That was a shot. I'm telling you how to get women wrong. Because I just heard like, when you did it publicly? It may be toxic. No, she mean knowingly. Knowingly is the right word. I admit to it publicly.

That's what I'm talking about. But it might be toxic. Dramar is. Breaking news. D'Maris has a grown woman. A grown woman has sucked dick before. Whoa. Anyway, listen to me.

I'm telling you, you want bitches stop looking at you like that. You got to give them another point of reference. Man, get a girl that can fight. That's it, that's all. Most advice is so bad. I'm telling you, bro, y'all. Y'all, y'all be thinking I'm joking.

All right. I bet you if he get a girlfriend that can't be like, yo, chicks don't even talk to me no more. He can't get a girlfriend. The whole point is to get a girl. So then go find one that's Ali's daughter. It's just. Yeah.

And I bet a million dollars he can't get a girlfriend. It's just that the bishops that the bitch is that like him he don't want. Well, that's a fact. Isn't that how to always go? He's got to take care of something other than himself. I don't know if you have a pet, sir. But I, in my case.

I'm going to get a goldfish. Get plants. Take care of something other than yourself. Can't fuck no plant. No, I'm going to say, like, you need to be,

if you're trying to unlearn being selfish. Oh, okay. And just being literally a dick to fuck and then leave, you need something that is in your life consistently to take care of other than yourself. Get plants first.

And then obviously when you bring a woman that matters in your life to your apartment, she sees plants. That's a good thing. So anytime you run into somebody that's in a healthy marriage, the first thing they'd be like, well, I started with a phicus. See, why do you always do this shit?

Dude, you do the same shit to me. It's different when I do it. It's cool. It's cool. I'm letting y'all know right now, when Jermaine Cole decided to do it, it's going to be a lot different. He's definitely rapping about ficus plants. Oh, my God.

For sure. Bikis, you can bite. But yeah. All right. Remember I said it. I'm even mad that Derminristod take a personal shot at me. How?

Because I know how to carry a conversation. She's no mad hoses that are a good time. Now, those type of male hos try to hide behind their vacations and their monies. Like, you don't really need to have a real conversation with a bitch when you take her to Turks. I was in Jersey City getting it in.

Roy had a bitch on a pat train. My personality got me here. I can never hide behind the money or the fucking vacation. I was sitting here These bitches Like me Turks and Weehawk So much trauma

So much So much trauma in the room Trenton and Weehawk It's so much trauma in the room Why is there so much trauma in here? Yeah I was a hoe with substance I had never been to D.R

I'd only been to the heights You gotta own your honeness That's all Yeah And once you get a girlfriend And you've been with her For a while your wholeness can get deleted Ma did you ever date a girl

That used to beat up women Huh? Did you ever date a girl that used to fight other women? I had no choice. She was about to beat me up. I was a victim. You threw a woman instead. You were that bitch.

It's either you're going to give me this dick or you're going to get put to sleep too. I said, well, we bend over because I'm not getting knocked out by the girl. Fuck that. You and Evan are so cool. That's never happened to me. Yeah, man. You got to keep a girl in your roster that know how to fight. Are you kidding me?

Oh, I agree there. Ma, you are not dating no women at your big age that know how to fight. No, not now. I'm not looking to date a woman now that knows how to fight. Wait, wait, why, I'm confused why that's a quality that, like, there's, like, nice women that are wify material that just happen to know how to fight. Yes, what's wrong with that. I'm talking about the ones that, like, look to fight.

Oh, yeah, sir. The ones that's like, yo, what she said? She didn't say nothing. Like, yo, that woman didn't say anything to you. She won't fight the server because she's tomato on your burger. Yeah, it's like, yo, chill, bro. We not, I'm sick. No, we're not doing.

No. But I've dated girls like that, though, 100%. Absolutely. But no, now. Some headaches. But yeah, a lot of girls of women know how to fight. Oh, my God.

No. Please keep that. Evan, meet people that aren't in the club or outside. Yeah, if you're going to the club still, like, if you think you're going to, I mean.

And how many women do you know that are all just getting out of relationships? You need to take some accountability of who you're surrounding yourself with. Yeah, he sounds like a jiggle-o that's like trying to get out the game. Evan, sweetie, as long as you have personality

and eventually you will find a woman that is into what you're into, but to get the stain off and stop being looked, that as dick. Go wife one of them girls that's in your inbox that you know. He's going to have to get a whore that is trying not to be a whore herself anymore. Oh, those are best relationships. This is a former horrors.

Oh, my God. Because then they could together, they could be like, yo, I really want to fuck somebody else, but I'm not going to do it. It's like having a sponsor. That's like when the couple that meets in rehab, that always works out perfectly. It works out. Yeah, they never hit the needle again. It's legitimately the take care song by Drake and Rihanna.

Hmm. I know you've been hurt by someone else. that entire song is both of us are hos but at least we're good for each I've asked about you and they've told me things I've asked about you that song is so good

I still feel the same Yeah, life is no fun Please don't be so Yeah that would be He needs to live To live to take care of song Go find you a girl That you've heard some things

But you don't care They don't get you like She's heard things about you as well That shit's hard And I don't care We're just here for each other What's a life without fun? What's a life without fun?

Don't be he's so ashamed. I ain't a lot. I'm ready to say. I get it, but if one of my homies, wife are a known whore, I'm laughing. How far out of her horrid him? And how quickly do you tell him, like...

That's wife. Nah, you shouldn't do that. As soon as I see him dating her. I think why she was hoaring depend. But sometimes you can't tell when your man is like in that gray area of, is he just fucking her? No, you ask him.

Or is he about to wife? What's that what you doing shorty? You're like, yo, though, I ain't going to lie. Yo, I like her. Really? Are you going to be bold enough to just straight up to tell you that she's a whore, sir? If you want my, like, close friends, yeah. That's how we give it up to you telling me and my, like, close friends that I grew up.

Ain't none of that sugarcoat and shit. I agree. She's a ho. I don't know if you know that. Not saying that. And what if he said, all right, that was her past. I don't get fuck why that. Salute.

But when niggas start giggling when you and her walk in the set, Nick, you can't be, you can't be mad. What if he replies with how you know? Oh. How I don't know. I'm outside. I'm in the streets. Just trying to come up a scenario.

Yeah, no. How you don't know? That would be my rebuttal. Like, how you don't? That would sting. That would sting. Like, nigga, how you don't know? I would just play the take care of songs.

Yeah, like, but you know, have fun. Do you think? Niggas be wife and whores. People always say you can't say a horrid to a housewife, but every nigga I know that wife, the whore loved that whore. They had the best fun. That was his best relationship.

Yeah, they do have good relationships until they... If she's a whore for money, if she's a whore for money, then I wouldn't trust her. But if she was a hoe just because, like, she ain't know no better. She ain't known no better. She's for Evan, then. She doesn't know any better. So you're saying she wasn't in it for...

You knew them seven niggas standing outside that door. You shouldn't have fucked them niggas. Seven. Oh, seven. Wait, like, as a crew, just seven of them, show? God, man. Okay, well, that's... That's a lot.

That's not the type of hole in I'm talking about. kind of extreme like what type of you're talking about that's a hoe to me yeah but that's a big if like that's the gauge of ho then I only know angels I don't think I've ever met a ho you don't think you you think you've ever been in a relationship with a girl that had a train ran on them

I hope to God I haven't I'll put it this way he's good not I hadn't I've had no knowledge open to God that you never that's all you can do look what you pray for that's all you can do God if you listen

please don't let this girl have anything else you could do you think you never broke bread with a train shake I probably broke bread with a girl that's been trained before freaking bread is so funny like ate a meal with a girl that's had a train ran on her yes I've probably done that before yeah that's that fucking crazy you know any woman personally that I had trains ran on them

yeah absolutely are you kidding me damn I don't think I do you probably do you know I mean like knowingly like I'm sure I do. I just don't know who of my I'm cool with a girl that had a train ran on her and she don't know that I know she had her train ran on her.

And I would never tell her that I know that. I've never been in that position. I feel like all the girls I've known, they've known, I've known. Now, it was because she was, she was waiting. She was like the caboof. She was with the train. Like, she wasn't like she wasn't drunk

and passed out niggas. No way. No, I'm just saying like she knew. Like she was just, you know, she was in that moment in her life where she was just having fun. So, yeah, it happens. But Evan, find a girl. Stop hanging out.

Wherever you're hanging out at, you got to completely change your lifestyle. You got to completely change your energy. People are only going to treat you the way you treat yourself. So, all, Evan, well, good luck, man. Hopefully, you know, you change your lifestyle. You start hanging out different places. People only going to treat you the way you treat yourself. So, you know, you got to change.

You got to change yourself if you want women to change the way they approach you and the energy that they approach you with. So call us back and let us know. man, Colos back in about two, three months. Let us know what the update is. And always remember, it's in the Bible. Only women can be hoes. Men can't.

So you're actually just an upstanding... Book of David, I believe? Yes. Okay, got it. Yeah. You're an upstanding Catholic man, really, at the end of the day. So don't beat yourself up over this. They're hoarse.

You're not. No, he's a whore. He's a whore. 100% hoarse. It's okay. But they made him a whore. Yeah, they made him a hoarse. He's a product of his environment.

He's a product of his environment. It was like when Eve, you know, bit to Apple and try to get Adam to do some shit. It's like black on black crime. Like we can only kill each other because we live next to each other. He was a straight-A student until these whores met him. It's like black on black crime. Yeah, they say black on black crimes.

Well, we live right here in the same. Who else are we going to kill? It's a vicious cycle. It's a vicious cycle. Yeah, it is. Let's get the fuck out of here, man. We'll talk to y'all soon. We had a lot of shit to talk about.

We've been gone for a few days. So that's what happens when you're going from the culture for a few days. Shit happens. But we'll be back in a couple days to talk. to y'all enjoy your weekend be safe be blessed i'm that niggie he's just ginger peace no this is an i heart podcast guaranteed human