New Rory & MAL - Episode 259 | Apparently Mal Needs Therapy

Episode Date: April 12, 2024

Mal needs therapy and from a specific type of person. We’re back to full strength after Mal’s historic rant last episode. Julian is back to share his perspective from Dreamville Fest and more (32:14). Mal continues to clarify his thoughts. In other beef news (that we have fueled) Chris Brown responds to Quavo on his deluxe album (45:31). In more serious news we send our condolences to Mister Cee (47:52). Then we’re told OJ Simpson passed away, which leads to a mixed review of his memorializing (51:43). This reminds Rory of an Aaron Hernandez documentary. It’s time for voicemails. We give some work advice (1:00:51) then give a gentleman advice on how to get laid (1:04:35). We close with Mal asking a wild question about a certain group of people (1:23:06). Tune in as the guys discuss all of this + more!Follow Rory: @ThisIsRoryFollow MAL: @MAL_ByTheWayFollow Demaris: @DemarisAGiscombeFollow Julian: @Julian__nicholas To watch the podcast on YouTube: https://bit.ly/NewRoryAndMALYouTube Don’t forget to follow the podcast for free wherever you're listening or by using this link: https://bit.ly/NewRoryAndMAL Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoicesSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

This is an I-Heart podcast. Guaranteed Human. Nothing's going to happen. This is okay. This is therapy. You hear me, Syf? This is my fucking therapy. You understand what I'm saying, Rosenberg?

This is my therapy. You're now entering the mode of the notorious Biggie Smalls. Junior Mafia Clint represent. This one going out to Brooklyn. Y'all know what time it is. It's going out to all the gangsters, all the pent of players, hos of bitches. y'all know what town is

so this is what I want y'all do I want you to grab y'all Dutchmasters and your white house and y'all Phillies get you a fat sack pint of Hennessy and lay back gonna do this one for my man Mr. C but mall

I'll take this man he's still there he wants war he's like that I don't even I don't know if you watch one app or care about WanaC who I don't care I do I never I don't think I met you if I have in no disrespect but I think you took this shit way too far. And here's another thing.

I'm not going to hate you for it. And if I ever see you, it's all good. I don't think anyone thought otherwise. This is never about him. What else would it be? Is Syke part of Dreamville now? I don't know about it. What else would it?

First of all, I haven't met Syve before. Shout to say, met him at Caroline's a couple times. Syf is a great good. Maybe not memorable. Shout to Seif. Maybe I'm not memorable. Whatever. But this is an interesting thing in all of this, though.

Like I've been seeing a lot of reactions over the past. past couple days, you know, we had some time to kind of like, you know, my phone has been ringing and it's kind of like, okay, a lot of people are agreeing with what I said. Some people are like, oh, you know, Cole is, you know, he's a man. And Juan Hap's just, Seif just said, you know, it takes a man to do what he did and all. Here's the interesting thing, though. Every last one of these dudes, I can go back to when Drake backed out of that battle with push her, and they killed him for that. Probably so. Cole does it, and it takes a man to do what he did. And this is Back to my point where people just don't like Drake.

They want to see him fall. They want to see him fail. Everything has to go back to Drake, huh? This sife, man. Come on. No, no, no. But this is, this is. I don't want to compliment Drake anymore.

It's not about compliment Drake. Slow down. I understand what you're trying to go with. Understand what I'm saying. When Drake did it, because this is all, they all, this is all three connected. When Drake did it, oh, he's like, oh, he's like, he, Lyski, acting, Lyski. That's because Drake's mom is a Jewish lady.

That's why. Whatever you want to say. You should talk to his mother about your problems. People were upset about Drake backing out of the battle, right around? Myself included. Cole does it. Now all of a sudden, I need therapy. I need therapy now.

Based off of my reaction on Cole, who I, just days before that happened, I say, yo, 3,001, that's some of the best rapping I've heard him do. Kendrick might have a problem. He might be rapping better than both of them, right? I gave Cole all of this love before that. He did something that I just didn't agree with that the culture. most of the culture doesn't agree with. We have literally a battle-rap culture

where dudes get on stage and battle each other. Some of these dudes are some of the... After they finish these battles, they'd be right on 130th and 7th, having soul food together, eating. It's all love. This wasn't no... He tried to throw police brutality into that conversation, too?

What the fuck are y'all talking about? But if you think about it. There was cops of dreams of... I don't want to think about that shit. The one thing I don't like about a lot of the reactions to your reaction is like yes these are our when you commentate on the culture

yes these are our opinions but at the same time this is entertainment and your job is to be entertaining thinking that you really lose asleep at night because of what the fuck Cole did in his free time when he's a fucking millionaire is insane so Sineapir's saying that you need therapy

because of your reaction on an entertainment podcast that's where I think everyone's trying to sound smarter than they need to sound and that's the problem like everybody why didn't say something why doesn't I stop flex every night when he ranted. What's wrong with passionately in media,

broadcasting, podcasting, talking passionately about music? And I will say it is. The reaction to your shit blew my fucking mind. We treat this podcast shit like a barbershop. Everyone yells, we're passionate about music, we all care about music. That's what makes podcasting so dope.

It's unfiltered music talk. While everyone else is doing gossipy bullshit and all this other shit that's, substance level that really need fucking therapy. We can't argue about music. Now everyone's offended. Now we need therapy because we passionately argued about the genre we fucking love.

And about an artist, Jermaine Cole, who we love. We've bigged him up for how long we've been podden? At least 10 years. We have been bigging Jermaine Cole up for 10 fucking years. He does one thing on stage that we question and now it's an issue because we passionately discussed the genre we love. and I need therapy.

And I will say this. You need therapy, but it's not because of your ram. Oh, no, no. Let's not lose the plot. You do that therapy. But for the wrong reason. I will tell you this, Seiffe. You need to see Julie Greenwald.

I need to see a Jewish lady. I don't know why. I don't know why Seifle would be telling a black man from a fucking man. He needs to talk to a Jewish lady. Which is so fucking. I was complimenting Julie. She's a good person to talk to.

So many black therapists, black therapists. Thank you. Thank you, Seifel. There's plenty of black Jews out there, Mom. If you have any black male. The original. If you have any black male. If you have any black male therapist that you can recommend me to, I will go see.

I don't want to sit and talk to a Jewish lady. I want to talk to a black male. I think Syf was joking around a bit. Well, whatever he was doing, but I'm just telling me. Here's my reaction to what Seif. The same way I reacted to what Cole said, this is my reaction to Seif and Rosenberg. Yes, I'm a black man in America. I absolutely need therapy or for that alone.

Yes. So yes, I do need therapy. But I will tell you this. I saw a clip of Jay Cole sitting down with KD and Eddie. Shout out to my guys, Katie and Eddie, their podcast. Great episode. It was a couple years ago, Julian just told me he's probably 2021. 2021.

And Jay Cole said he's trying to take the competitive nature out of hip hop. He's trying to take the competitive nature out of it, right? So Sunday night, that's seemingly what he did. he took the competitive nature out of the art that he is a part of. Can't get mad at that, right? Can't can't get mad at that.

He said he stripped away the competition part he's more interested in the relationship. So he's more interested in having a healthy relationship with other artists, other MCs, things like that. Great. That's how you want to approach it great. Good music comes from it.

I'm here to tell you, I'm here to tell you that the culture that you love, J. Cole, and the culture that you're a part of and the culture that you've had a lot of success in, it has been built upon competition. Hip hop, rap is built on competition. So if you're here to strip away the competitive part of it, then I think you should respectfully no longer make music and just be successful, be the guy that you are, go live the life that

you are, because you're already a hippie. Cole's a hippie. He wants to live on a farm. He got that lifestyle. And that's what I love about it. No, no, no. I think, I think, too, that's fucking insane. How is that insane?

You can step one to just stop being an artist because he's not, he's not the, the analogy that everyone's using. He doesn't have that Kobe or Michael killer instinct. He just stop making use it. He should just not go out and diss somebody. If he wants to live this way, cool. Most of my favorite records are not the braggadocious, I'm better than you records. It's not about that.

It's the deep records. It's not, I think he can live that way and do this. But don't then step in the ring. That was all the point we were trying to make last episode. Okay, but people can step, first of all, everyone, sometimes people cross the line or they say something that they don't mean. It just so happens when he does it. It obviously gets reacted to by millions of fucking people.

What do you mean he says something? So I'm saying like he did the record because in that moment he probably felt like, fuck it. This is the time for me to do the seven minute drill thing. He did it. Cool. Less than what, a day later he regretted it.

But that's bullshit. How is that bullshit? Because the only reason Jermaine Cole did that on stage is because he sat online and read all the fucking comments when everybody was saying he didn't like that record. I don't care about what you believe. That's what I'm saying for a second. What happened was because he's something like everybody wants blood, how he knows everybody wants blood? Because he sat there and he read the comments and everybody was saying, nah, that wasn't hard enough.

Yeah, you didn't take it further. No, that wasn't. So then you don't think in that moment? Slow down. Let me explain something real quick. Slow down. Just I'm going to give you a time. Slow down.

So the only reason he did that, because if he had dropped a bomb that everybody was feeling, everybody was like, oh, he's killing Kendrick, he would have 1,000 percent perform that record at Dreamville. I don't think so. Get the, I think. But, Ma, I think you're expecting. If that went crazy the way Kendrick's liked that verse did, I think Cole was closing Dreamville. What artist is not going to perform a record at his festival? That's a bomb.

No, I think what Cole learned in this process, and I don't want to speak for it. From my analysis, is I think he realized that he has a line. And Cole's line is the emotional. He values the emotion over, I guess in this case, the sport. The thing we love about Kobe, and I said this when you called me and shit was fucking going crazy on my line

fucking two, whatever, yesterday, I said the difference is when Kobe and Pal Gasol played basketball together for forever. One rings together. Love each other. Pows his fucking daughter's godfathers. When they stepped on the court, Kobe said

as soon as his ball tips off, I'm giving power screen. I'm laying him the fuck out. I want to set the tone. This is who I am. I don't give a fuck about the family shit. This is the game. I think that's what Cole lacks is he can't compartmentalize the emotion with how he plays the sport. Kendrick doesn't give a fuck.

I think Kendrick will still shoot it, Cole. I don't care if you conceded. It's still fuck you. We're still in this rap shit. I don't think Cole is built. I don't think he has that. Okay, so now you understand what I just said about why Cole should probably just not make music anymore?

But sometimes, no, I mean, that's ridiculous. If you're not making, do the compete battleship, sure. If you're not making, if you're not making, if you're not making, if you're not based on that. Like, he's made great music. No, a lot of his career is based on him telling us he's the best. That is a fact. A lot of his career.

is telling us how much he's better than all this is competition and about he just said he's mohammed ali he just he just said that mohammed lost exactly my point when lose a draw you take the fucking fight that's my point when lose a draw take the fucking fight you don't back out of the fight because you somewhere reading the comments and everybody's torching that song saying yo that ain't hard enough and then you get on stage to say you y'all about the comments mall yes it is bro what is it about without he just said y'all want to see blood who the fuck wanted to see blood without First of all, when he said y'all wanted to see blood, he also was referring to his own niggas too.

His own niggas, who he said hyped him up to respond. Even though deep in his heart he didn't really want to respond. I don't think that the man is lying when he says that he didn't feel right doing that shit. I'm not sent. It doesn't, even if he would have went harder, even if people would have went crazy over it, I do believe that he still wouldn't have felt comfortable. Do you remember when we sat down with Mike Tyson?

Yes, it was a terrifying moment. And Mike Tyson looked us in his eyes and told us that Never forget it. I didn't sleep. He told before every fight, what did he say? He said he was scared to death. Oh, yeah, terrified. Terrified walking out.

Mike Tyson said he was scared to death before every fight. Mike Tyson. You know what Mike Tyson didn't do? He didn't not walk in the ring. He didn't not fight. You can be scared. You can be like, damn, I don't really want to do this. But when you're in it and you're one of the greatest-

You get in fear from when nobody spoke on fear. You don't have to speak on fear. I looked at a nigger on stage and I could see the fear in his face. He didn't even want to do that. The same white niggas looked at you and really assume. that you're really upset about this. You don't know him. You don't know why he did what he did.

Listen, the thing I'm doing is speculating on a fucking podcast because that's what you're supposed to do. No, no, the thing that I'm upset about is because Cole could have just went up there and said, you know what? I had a talk with Kendrick. This is where it ends. I'm not making no more records. I'm not throwing no more shots. That's it.

That apology he gave us. That was one of the nastiest things that MC ever has done. And you know why everybody reacted the way they did? Because we've never seen an MC do that before. We've never seen that before. Oh, Jay-Z, he said he didn't want to battle Nause because his mother called him. Yeah, you know why? Because that had a real potential to go into some street shit.

I fucked your baby mother. I left condoms in your baby seat. You can die behind that where I'm from. He just watched what happened to Big and Pock. You think his mother don't realize I don't want to be the next Valletta Wallace. I don't want to be the next to finish your course. So yeah, Jay-Z's mother is going to call him and say, yo, listen, I don't know what y'all are doing. seen this before with some of your friends. Stop.

This was not going there. Of course not. This was just a battle of skill set in art. Yes, I understand why everybody's upset from that perspective. But to just speak on coal, it sucks because optically looks awfully. He did in front of all this shit. He really when he said I was losing sleep over this shit. He was. Like that's not like a hyperbolic statement.

Like he truthfully felt that. And then I saw him Tuesday night come out during Baza's show, last show of his tour. shout out, Boz, congrats on the tour. Coal popped out. The plan was for Cole to come out anyway. And after what happened, we're like, we don't know if that's going to happen. Cole still, he surprised, boss. Bosn't know that moment was going to happen.

I went in the agreement to take a pee and I saw Cole there. And I, like, not to like, not, I was going to get emotional, but I was like, damn, like, I looked at it the way in which if a comedian goes up and bombs in front of a fucking MSG one night and then they're like, well, I'm still, at the end of the day, I'm still a comedian. I'm going to go to the club the next night and get a lick in. Not only did Cole have the apology happen, the mic was fucked up. You could hardly hear like the whole set was just bad from every angle.

And Cole went out in Irving Plaza, a venue that you'd have to fill out for two months time to just equate the amount of people he just did a Dreamville Fest in a row. And he fucking rocked it. Did like, did the feature thing, did three extra songs and was just he looked happy. And you could just see like he, I think he's already at peace or just feels better personally. The hip-hop shit aside about the decision he made. on the stage of Dreamville Fest. At least that's it, because I've seen it.

I was there and I saw him in his face personally. Like, you can just see the difference in his energy and how the high that he was on. We all went out Tuesday night afterwards. What are you telling me right now? I'm glad as a human being is doing fine. We didn't, we don't want him to. It's bigger than like, I get it. As a fan of the sport, good, it sucks.

But this is his life. That's what he wanted to do. Let him fucking live. Okay. We don't want anything bad to happen to Jake. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on.

Hold on. I got this. I got this. I got this. I got this. Hold on. So, all right. So let me be very clear so that everybody can understand what I'm saying.

I love J. Cole. He's one of my favorite rappers of all time. I've said it before. I'll say it again. All I'm saying is he is no longer. You know how many conversations I've had in barbershops defending Jay Cole on how many corners,

how many porches front steps, how many building staircases I've had saying, y' got him fucked up. He ain't with all the glitz and glitz and this nigga ride a bike. and he'll still show up and bust any MC's ass, I'm the nigger in these projects having these conversations. So when now he has the chance to show niggers what I've been saying for years about him and prove to niggas what I've been saying years about him,

I'm like, yes, it's going down, let's have it. And it's just healthy. It's just healthy, just competitive. Like, yo, where's your pen at? Let me see. And then for him to do what he did? Of course I'm going to be upset because you know why. Now my phone rings.

Like, I told you that nigger was a hippie. He ain't no hip hop, nigger. He don't really want this shit. He's been showing you for years who he is. He ain't really like that. He just bluff. He's talking a good game. He's not built for this shit.

I had to hear that shit for the last however many days. And I can't even say nothing because they're right. I'm like, damn, I thought he was from that cloth of MC and where you step to me and you want to battle. I'm going to bust your ass and put you back in your place. So, okay, I'm happy that he seems to be happy at Baza's show and he's not stressed out. He's getting sleep.

Of course. Of course I am. I don't want him to be stressed out and depressed. I'm not. I don't wish that on nobody. but you're not going to tell me that I'm wrong for what I said about them from an MC standpoint not personally that wasn't personal I'm talking my emceeing as an emce there are certain things J. Cole is no longer allowed to say and if you feel

that way fine I it ain't just me though I know a lot of people a lot of people feel that way you understand what I'm saying it's not just me warranted I get it so so what all I'm saying is if J Cole is in a space where he is feeling like he doesn't he wants to take the competitive nature out of rap and hip hop, I'm telling you that you are placing yourself in a dangerous position by doing that because now you are leaving yourself open for any other MC to come straight at you and you can't do nothing about it. And then what? Who wants to root for MC and a rapper that all these other dudes just be coming at him. It's like, oh, you know, man, and that's what I said about career suicide because, yes, of course, Jay Cole's going to make good

music from now. He's going to put out good out. Of course, he's a great artist. I'm talking about the things aside from just the music. I'm talking about the standpoint of Jake Cole as a rapper, as an MC, the way he carries himself, the bravado, the ego. You need that in hip hop. You have to have an ego in anything that you're trying to be the best at. If you're playing basketball, you're like, I ain't going to lie.

I'm trying to take the competitive shit out this. Everybody in the team going to play, you stay in the fucking locker room there. Because I need to know when these niggas is coming to trap me in the corner that you're going to be there to catch this ball and shoot. If not, you can sit your ass right here. That's all I'm saying. So if you don't want to be competitive, what are you doing it for?

Well, to be fair, do you think that Jake Cole is the one that let the the air out of the balloon of competitiveness and hip hop? Because these niggas been BFF and niggas have been BFF in hip hop. We've been complaining about that for the past for years. BFF as far as personal. You could be cool personally. Yeah. But when you challenge my pin, when you challenge my pin as an MC, I have to step to that

challenge. That's law in hip hop. Jay Cole is not going to change that. Drake is not going to change that. Kendrick is not going to change that. That is the law. You are an MC and you are rapping. You feel like you are the best and you say you the best and you feel like Muhammad Ali and all this other shit. It's time to show it. It's time to show it. That's all I'm saying. So for you to lay down, like, nah, I don't want to do this. I respect it, bro. I forgive your weak acts. Hustling just ain't you. I get that. But now you can never talk that big, really big MC shit ever again. That's out the window. You can go sit down with the lower tier niggers that's nice, but ain't really like that when conversations happen. Niggins, certain names we ain't throwing on the table in a hip-hop

conversation. Jay Cole, we got to take that card out the deck. You can't throw his name on a hip-hop conversation no more when it comes to rapping to MCN. No, that's over. In the discography conversation, sure. But when it comes to the MCM-C-M-Sys. song still live. Yeah, there's an asterick there now. But even that's in danger. Because a lot of, first person shooter, I don't ever want to hear that shit no more. I don't ever want to hear first person shooter ever get in my fucking life.

I still. I don't ever want to hear that shit. Okay, well, play Drake's part. Play when the beat change. Don't give me Muhammad Ali. It's just, no, it ain't. No it ain't. I seen the Ali fight niggas that they said was going to kill him.

They thought Ali was going to die when he fought Foreman. They thought he was going to die when he fought Joe Frazier. He fought the government. Didn't go to war. Went to prison behind that shit. Don't ever say you feel like Muhammad Ali, nigga. No, you feel like McCauley Culkin and one of them other niggas that's home alone.

You one of them, he was victorious. Now it sounds like you're attacking the legitimacy of his lyrics. All of rap is lying. Yeah, point there. All your guys lied. But Colour has continued to say that all rappers lie, except me. Not the majority. Most rappers are lying their fucking ass off.

Okay, but he's one of them now. Now we know he's lying. Okay, so be it. All these guys lie. Go sit down with the liars. Then go over there. Drake lies. Okay.

Go sit down. Everyone has lied in their raves. I think that's a weak angle. Yeah, but it's a little different when they're lying about actually murdering someone because we don't want to see the murder rate. And they're lying about being one of the best. But rapping about you're the best rapper. And any rapper that test you lyrically, you'll kill.

You're the only authentic MC. Everyone lies in the rhymes, but me. I'm cold. I do this for real. Everyone else is a liar. It's a little different than someone making up some gangster persona like they sold a million bricks. Why are you guys calling it a lie? We know Ross doesn't have a.

million favors from Pablo Escobar. We know that. We know that. We know that. It sound good. But Cole, I fully believed, when it came to being tested by another rapper, I was always going to put my money down on Cole. Because I believed his rhymes, because he could really rap like that. So why is it an issue to people like, you, Syf, whoever runs the Dreamville account, when Cole says out of his mouth, love when they argue the hardest MC. Is it K. Adabry or me? We the big three like we started the league. But right now, I feel like Muhammad Lee. This is out of Cole's mouth. He loves

when we was talking about this shit. Now Seif wants him to get therapy? Kick it, cuss. Shut up. Am I wrong? Why is everyone so outraged about our opinion with Jay Cole? This is what the white protesters do, Demaris. They stand in front of the niggas and they protect him. Kick it, cuss.

That part. By the way, I'll get hit with the pepper person. I listen to the whole episode. You bringing that up with so fucking fucking funny. It was super Darius was like still defending. Because it does have any. You're right, you're right. You're right. You're right.

Thank you. Oh my God. I'll have admitted that I was right. No, no, certain groups give me that. Certain groups hit me. It was like, no, we definitely do that. Like, I was like, okay. I stay, I'm loud.

Listen, I'm loud when I'm right. I'm loud when I'm right. I'm loud when I'm wrong. I'm one of them. You see how I stand on business, Julian? That's right. Stand on it. It's so bullshit.

Stand on it. Codin' stand on his bars. No, so, okay. But can you answer my question, because you are on Seif and Dreamville side of being outraged at Mall and I for having opinion about hip-hop when Cole, which started this whole thing. They outraged you too? Yeah, of course.

Oh shit. I didn't know that. I got outraged at. I don't want to talk about it. That's crazy. Love when they argue the hardest MCs. Yeah. Now we can't argue the hardest MCs.

And when one of the three that he named says, I love when they argue the hardest MCs, Kada, Aubrey, or me. Yeah. But right now I feel like I'm Muhammad Ali. Yeah. Now we all have to stop what Cole said he loved. Yeah. So we can protect his mental health.

and now we're the bad guys that need therapy. Because we love hip hop. You act like, okay, relax. You act like Cole's not, Cole said everybody stopped making fun. He hasn't said a word since. Who said anything about Jake Cole? I said you, Syf, and whoever runs the Dreamville account.

What I'm like, why is everything have to be so, so what? He had a change of heart. He did it. That's fine. He went there. He went there with the seven minute drill. He went there with seven minute drill. Julian.

And said, you know, this doesn't feel like who I am. And then took it back. That's fine. I'm not, I'm upset about it. I'm agreeing with you guys, but I'm also providing perspective of the person that fucking did it. That's fine. Bro, I just told you, I still, I still fuck with cold. I'm not, it's not a personal thing.

I'm just saying as an MC and a rapper, he is no longer in that conversation. If you feel that way, fine. Great. So why are you yelling, man? Because all right, I'm not trying to yell. Sorry, well, like, if you feel that way, okay. There's nothing wrong with yelling, guys. But guess what?

Nothing's going to happen. This is okay. This is therapy. You hear me, Saif? This is my fucking therapy. You understand? Still what I'm saying, Rosenberg? This is my therapy.

Sorry, man, I'm juicing again. I'm sorry, y'all. I get a little crazy when I start juicing. Are you in a juice cleanse? But also to DeMaris' earlier question, what was more heartbreaking about this? Because it was Cole, the last three we have. Yes, I'm dying on that ledge too.

Sorry to sound like the old fucking guy of get off my lawn. These last three here, Kendrick, Cole, and Drake are our last real hip-hop superstar. It's over. It's over. So, yes, this was so disappointing and heartbreaking as a fan.

I don't understand why fans can't be upset. I'm upset. You guys are the same fucking fans. You included Rosenberg, Seif. When anytime a rapper that talks about heartbreak gets a breakup, y'all get excited. Album's about to be crazy. Y'all have not given a fuck about a rapper's mental health once in your entire career. But now when Cole does it, we all have to stop.

Yeah, that's how it goes. And I'm fine with that. That I don't care about it. Y'all can wait when Nas and Khalis got divorced. Yeah, I don't. Oh, he's on the cover with the wedding dress. No one checked if Nas was okay. Right.

It was like, yo, we about to get that album. Now all of a sudden, we all have to stop and we're wrong. I need therapy. I'm doing this forever. I need therapy. I'm wrong. You do. I went too far.

All of these things. You know, I mean, you know, listen, man, the bottom line is this. What Jay Cole did is something that was just very unexpected from the type of a MC and rapper that he is. We never thought that he would do that. And I'm all with, you know, you doing something and feeling like, you know, damn, I shouldn't did that. We've all said things. Mad time. Sad time.

and regretted things. We've apologized for things we've said and done. Like, you know, that's so I'm not, that's not what I'm upset at Cole. I'm not upset at him for the apology. I'm not upset at that. I'm upset at him because, one, you didn't have to release the record. Right. And I, you know, again, I don't know Cole on a personal level.

I've only observed him from afar for years and seen interviews and kind of got a feel for the person he is. He rides a by. He's very like, you know, under the radar, but he's a super. That's what I love about him. He doesn't, he's very grounded. I love that about him. But I just find it hard to believe that if that record, that seven minute drill record would have shook the room, like let's say a back-to-back did, I just find it very hard to believe that he would have done what he did on that Dreamville stage. I think he would have went there. He would have performed that record because you know

the crowd would have wanted the record. Like, I think that's the only thing that bothers me because I don't believe that that's why he did what he did. I don't believe the apology. I'm not mad at the apology. I just don't believe that's why he apologized. That would have been a crazy strategy if it did go nuts. And then he was like, no, I'm cool now. That might actually work in his favor. This is what I'm saying. Like, I just dropped this, but it's like, you know, let me chill. You know, let me chill. You know, let me chill. He even said that. So it's like, okay, cool, you got two classics. It's like, bet. Like, all right. But I just think that because, you know, Coles again, he says he's not on the internet. Rap is live. They're on the internet.

They have burner accounts. They're reading everything. They type their names, search their names and see what everybody's saying. He saw what everybody was saying about that record. Of course it did. He dropped his first real disc record. You don't think Jay Cole was glued to his phone? So, when he saw the reaction wasn't like, oh, shit, he killed Kendrick.

It's over. When he saw it wasn't that, he realized like, damn, I'm not, I don't want to go further. I don't want to disrespect him deeper than this. Yeah, what they're expecting from me, I'm not ready to do that. Which is okay. And that's fine. I'm not knocking that. But we can be upset as fans.

But if that record in the reaction would have been, yo, he's killing, he kicking Kendrick's ass. If it would have been that, he would have performed that record Sunday night. One million percent. I had a strategy that I was thinking about doing coming into this episode. Because I wanted to like really, I saw so much contradiction the past two days from so many people

that I thought about coming into this episode and going, yo, I apologize for everything I said about Cole on the last episode. I didn't mean it. I was in the moment. I felt pressured to have to talk about it. I'm sorry and I'm done. And then I wanted to see what people's reaction. To see, I got the same forgiveness from the people that got mad at me for the cold shit.

Because I guarantee you those people would not have been like, Rory, it happens, man. Sometimes we say things we don't mean. They would still be killing me right now. I do want to apologize. You're all hypocrites, just like we are. They had to go through mad production, mad approvals and mad shit before it got out. I do want to apologize, though, if, because I know Cole saw or her, the episode.

Yeah, thanks for fucking on my week. I do want to apologize if it came across like it was a personal attack at Cole because I don't know him personally.

Well, the clip didn't do you any damn good. Well, obviously, that's why, that's why I'm here today to do what Cole did.

Yo, Cole, when I'm at, Roe, Cole, it ain't personal. I never met you. It's all love. Still one of our favorite rappers, I just can't argue

the same in the barbershop. That's all. Yo, everyone in here thinks Cole's a goat, right? Make some noise. Everyone got love for Jay Cole. That's what he did at this show,

but with Kendrick. Guys, yo, come on. Fuck you. That wasn't crazy to you? Who loves Kobe? Bam, Ma, Mom, I didn't like that. I didn't like that moment. I didn't like the apology. Did you make some noise? Hell no. Yes, he did.

Yo, the crowd was confused. The crowd was extremely confused. And then I say all the deep pieces, yo, the album's called the fall off. He might be setting all those are worse. Listen, I'm cool with that, right? But guess what he better be doing on that fucking album? He better be paying Kendrick a new asshole on that album.

Yeah. That could be part of the plan. If that's the plan. But we're not going to get away from you and Kendrick battling, though. You better have some bars for Kendrick. This could be part of your rollout for the fall of. Make it seem like, yo, you fell out of good graces of everybody. And fire.

I would be the first one to come on my platform yet I was fired. That would be the other strategy ever. But you better be on that motherfucker smoking Kendrick like a fucking pack of new ports. That's what I do know. You better not just give me good songs and be on that. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. You don't get away from this battle. because like you said

if Kendrick dropped tomorrow and he's saying, nigga fuck Jay Cole out of cold And again again like allegiance and all that shit aside I think Kendrick should and will respond

He should Again to keep this shit hip hop to keep his sport If I'm Kendrick I'm saying Fuck Cole Fuck all that Deep than that We're still in this Deeper than that

You know what I think really happened And then you either bait for him To say something again Let make him respond If I'm Kendrick I'm trying to make you respond We're going to stay quiet forever. Well, so I'm saying at this point.

And that's why I said his career suicide because he can never respond. Once he did what he did, that's you saying like, yo, bro, I don't want no part of that type, that part of rap hip hop. I don't want to battle nobody. I don't want to have to disrespect nobody on wax. I don't want that. Because now you can't select the politic and choose which MC you want to battle. Yeah. You can do that.

No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Don't, don't battle the nigger you know you can beat. Don't do that. That's not how you earn stripes. You got to battle with a nigga. We feel like, I don't know. That's going to be good. That's going to be close.

Yeah. That's all I'm saying. And that's just from a competitive nature part of this thing. Personally, I hope Cole is good and he could sleep. Of course. And his heart is pure. And, nigga, I fuck with Cole. I thought his whole aesthetic and how he moves being the guy that he is.

He's not with all the jury shit flying private and he ain't into the clubs all the time. I love that about him. and then could go and rap the way he's rapping, that was fire. That's what hip hop is. It's not the glitz and the glamour. It's, yo, is he dope? Cool. That's what he represented.

I'm just disappointed that we had that moment that was set. The table was set. And we had it. And it's like, oh, this is not beef. This is just, y'all, I think I'm better than you. This is, we had it. The table's lined up. Let's see it.

And then one of the dudes that we felt like had the potential of coming out as the best, he decided to back down he didn't want to engage in this no more it's like oh okay cool but you could no longer be in that conversation after this that's all I'm saying I will say there may have been worse footage at Dreamville than that cold apology

you pull this up I saw this uh subscribe to Julian's only fans on Instagram what's it called it's literally my Instagram but you can like it's a subscription subscription page so I subscribe oh so you say just so you could backdoor me and do some slick shit like this. I thought that was the point of subscribing. You know, you can like block him now

because he's giving away your paywall information. Ooh, yeah. I thought this was a good at. Look at, Rory recorded this Wally in Canada. Look at that in the corner, Rogers. This was before Cole even got on stage. This wasn't, this was on your regular story, though, you posted this.

Yeah. Because I saw it and I'm not subscribed to you. Oh, this just today I posted about it. No, I saw it yesterday. Oh, okay, see? Okay, well, either way, how do we feel about this athletic performance here? in this form of throwing. It's a home run out of the stadium.

Well, first of all, you almost bust his ass. Stages are slippery. We're not going to pretend like they're not. You're slipping on steamers? No one. You look like 50 throwing out that first pitch at the Mets game. You know what's fucked up? This second one that I threw,

I threw it like a... I threw the second one like a frisbee and drilled a poor lady in the face. Oh, nice. I thought that was the point of throwing away. It held form because it was wrapped in the plastic and it just whipped across the crowd. So you need therapy for that.

Did she get the shirt, though? I hope so, or at least I hope someone near her gave it to her. Because that's like when the kid gets it with a foul ball and someone else is. But guess what? It's not her size. Yeah. I love that part of it.

Yeah. When you throw shit in the audience and somebody grab it, like this is a 2X. I don't win this shit. Have you guys ever called it a shirt cannon shirt? No. At the game. I'll be trying to. I have a giant's games.

I wish. Very embarrassing. I got hit in the face with a t-shirt at MS. We know when they wrap them up and like shoot them out the cannons. Yeah. Like I hit right in the eye. Just drilled me. What kind of?

That's why your eyes like that? Probably. Probably. Yeah. I was on my phone and I was standing up while they were doing it and I didn't look up and I got hit. Did you keep the shirt? Yeah, I actually got the shirt. It's a sleep shirt.

Well, you had an interesting time coming back from Dreamville, Julian. And I do want to apologize if I interrupted or disturbed any of your relationship at Dreamville. That wasn't my intention. I know those are your guys. Shout out the boss. Shout out the Cole. Still nothing but love for Cole. I don't know anybody else.

Felton. Felton? Felton. Feltin, too. Great, great guy. But anybody else already, I don't know. But nothing but love, Inspector Dreamville,

but listen, man, it is what it is. You know, Cole did what he did, and that's just not what MC of his caliber is supposed to do. I understand them being not, like, just work with Cole.

They're actually friends and, like, came up with him. So I get the alliance, like fully understand it and understand day after feeling away about that. You told about day man's, fully get it. Yeah.

I hope with time, though, there's some understanding that we're here to debate hip hop. Cole was one of the greatest of all time. When he does something, especially something like that on stage, we're going to move on to a different topic? Right. Of course we're going to discuss it.

I mean, it's not even... Colleges of anything game across disrespectful. Yeah, yeah. I don't ever want my words to come across as disrespect, anything like that, especially not to somebody like Cole. Like, you got to be a fucking lunatic to just try to blatantly disrespect Jay Cole. Like, he's not that type of person.

So I don't want it to come across a disrespect. But I stand up. on everything I said. All the disrespect. No, I wasn't disrespect. He didn't disrespect. I didn't disrespect. I stand on everything I said as a fan of the culture, somebody that's come up in this,

as a consumer of the culture, as one of, you know, Cole's supporters over the years, I was very disappointed in what he did Sunday night. That's all I'm saying. That's my, that's my bottom line. I was very disappointed in what he did Sunday night. I don't want to drag this topic, but I was also thinking, okay, moving forward, he has obviously the fall off and he says he has two, theoretically two classics in the tucks. So say it's a falloff and then another out.

No, he don't. Just, okay, whatever. That classic stigma is that's removed. You could still make a classic album. No, you can. Not doing what he did. It could be good. But ain't nobody going to say it's a classic.

With time and with good music to follow, assuming everything's great, can he dig himself out of this hole that he, self-inflicted, he put himself in, but also get back into a conversation of, like, a great. Bro, he's going to take a lot of rapping. Bro, there's no, and it's not even about a lot of rap, man. There's no, Cole is a great artist.

He's a great rapper. And he is a great. He's a great emcee. I'm saying, what I'm saying is the other great emcees no longer view him as one of their peers. They don't. That's just what it is. And to me, that means more than putting out a great album, is having the respect of your peers, having the respect of the guys that came before you that did this.

And he's lost that. I don't care if none of these artists and these emcees that are the legend, I don't care if Jay-Z never says it publicly. I don't care if Nas never says it publicly. I know when them niggas is at home drinking that Hibiki, that good whiskey. Oh, I love that. They sitting down like, he ain't one of us, man. And I feel like...

We thought he was, but he ain't one of us. I feel like I need to defend hip-hop against everyone that was outraged at us. Even when Rosenberg or I forgot which one in that clip was saying, like, oh, real man took accountability. Now we can shift hip-hop into accountability and being a... real men, like, hip hop has its faults. Don't get me fucking wrong. I'm very self-aware of what hip hop is. There's a lot of bullshit in it. A lot of misogyny, a lot of violence, a lot of things that you could say is bad. But to sit here and say that no rapper has ever taken accountability or been

mature is a slap in the face to hip hop to me. Yeah. Jay Cole getting on that stage and doing that, if you want to commend them for that, I'm not mad at you. I was only speaking from my perspective. but to say Cole just invented taking accountability and finally we can get that in hip hop go listen to 444 go listen to life is good like you are spitting in the face

of so many other rappers that have been taking accountability and been on their grown man shit they just deep it in that role everyone thought they sounded so smart and it blows my mind like no y'all don't really listen to hip hop we can like competition

and also like accountability Travis Kelsey inventing the fade yeah it's insane to me so sorry Seif and Rosenberg, who I think are real hip hop historians. They've been in this shit way longer than me, seen way more shit than me, actually talk about how they're hip hop historians. How the fuck could you say Jake Cole now started the trend of taking accountability in hip-hop? Because this is, they just people- Keros one took fucking accountability. They just want to take, people just want to say things and,

you know, it's like, but I'm standing behind, I'm standing behind what I said. I'm standing behind what I said because- Soldier Boy is the only rapper that's never taken accountability. and cipher two, along with the rest of y'all in here, if this was Drake, y'all would be having a fucking conumption. Y'all would be going, I'm just saying, it's part of the battle, it's three of them. It's Kendrick, Drake, and J. Cole. Because everybody's still talking about your man ain't respond yet.

Drake ain't saying nothing yet. But he, what about his mental health? What if he don't want to respond? He did something similar to Cole. No, he had, and we killed him for it. He never, he didn't take the, he didn't take the disc record back. Yes, he did. No, he did not.

No, he did not. No, he did not. No, he did not. See, and this is my problem. in the chair and then continue to diss on Scorpion. This is my problem. People like him. Yeah, wait a minute. You're the person that's rewriting history, not me.

Wait a minute, Ma. He never stood on the fucking stage and said, yo, I don't, I take the record back. Here's my chin. Here's my chin. Cut it out, man. Stop. Don't do that.

He did it. Yeah, he got his makeup done, and then they sat in the lighting in the professional studio, and then they probably shot that 10 times and that was the best take. And by the way, the same way I say Cole has an asterisk there. I've been saying Drake as an asteric for that move.

He has wins and losses Nothing wrong with that But I still think Because he has wins and losses And continues to get in the ring To me, Drake could talk as greasy as he wants Y'all are crazy He took L's and came back

If Drake did that at OVOFest Oh my fucking God Seifah and Rosenberg included They would have been killing Drake For that movie What happened to the genre I love? Exactly so you're talking about Stop the shit because y'all like coal

And y'all feel like damn now I like cold too but he's not exempt from getting these motherfucking bars about how crazy he looked on Sunday night. Everybody in Dreamville would be saying the same thing we were saying about Drake. If Drake would have been saying it. Cole would have been saying. If any other rapper besides Cole did that, every last person that disagreed with us would say the same thing. I get it, bro.

We like who we like, but let's stop moving to goalpost. And Drake would have did that, I might have motherfucking. Yo, you look crazy. Come on. I mean, it's fine. I move the goalpost too. Like it happens. If an artist did that, fuck no.

I would never move to goalpost for artists if he did some shit like that. You mentioned Drake. Do we need to again? Is he releasing tomorrow? What's the plan? Is he stepping on the rollout? I have no idea.

I hope so. That was my prediction. Did you guys notice Party put out a single today instead of what would be the normal turn of the Yeah, he ain't an idiot. The turn of the single? So Party has a single come out today for his project. OVO, Allegiance, obviously.

Yeah. I think you did that for a reason. I thought when I said, saw it, I was like, all right, he probably had planned that video. They shot it ready to go. And then Drake made the decision last night that he was going to put this shit out midnight. And party was like, hit upload on YouTube now. Yep, get out the way. I need 24 hours at least with this fucking video. But good video too, by the way.

But I don't know because the fact that party is OVO, I think that that would only help him. Nah, everything is going to. Not this. If Drake drops that record at midnight, every last thing is going to stop. Oh, no, for sure. But I'm just, what I'm saying is it still is kind of like. like the OVO brand is being spoken about. You get what I'm saying? If Drake drops this record.

No. He needs at least 24 hours of silence. I think it's smart that he put it out now. But even if he put it out now and if Drake drops tomorrow, what difference is it? Honestly. That's what I'm saying. I think that this.

But if it could be part of his rollout schedule that he's not moving, like I could see them doing the audible last minute, like, all right, we have to get this out. I don't think we're dropping. I don't think Drake is dropping. I don't think. Drake is not dropping anything. Why? This week.

I don't think so. You still think he's waiting for Kendrick to say something? Because he's not going to. 100%. He already said something. He already said something. I said, but again, I didn't move to goalposts. I said the same thing for Cole and y'all killed me.

I said Cole or Drake don't need to respond to that. I said that and y'all killed me for that. No, I wish Cole. Because it was never about Cole. So I wish Cole never responded because it was never about him. It wasn't all. He dubbed the term big three. What is he talking about?

He gave Cole a half a bar. What is he talking about? You gave Cole a half a bar. That was all for Greg. So what? He still spit on the bar that he was said in his first number one song. Fuck the big three. It's just big me.

At the end day, like you said, Cole didn't need to respond. He did not need to respond. But he did and he took it back and now I need therapy. You know, it is. I didn't think Cole taking back his, this record would lead to me needing therapy. But whatever. We're going to find you a nice Dominican woman mall. Oh, now that's therapy.

I talked to Rosenberg about having them on a Patreon. episode. So maybe we have them on soon. I won't be here for that. I'm taking a vacation. I'm going to a therapy clinic in Arizona in the desert somewhere. I'm going to get my fucking mind right and my spirit right. Sounds like rehab. Are y'all looking forward to we still don't trust you? Part two. I think it's going to be way better than part one. I think part one they knew what was going to happen. Is it a completely new project or is it like Fall of Dogs when Drake released those six songs? It's a completely new album. Okay. Do you guys think because I've been reading all these fan theories and things. I think it's interesting. It seemed like everyone that was featured on

the last out project also had a vendetta seemingly now against Drake. Do you think if there are any features, if at all, and they're saying that there aren't, but who knows with these guys? Yeah. If there are features, do you think it's more of that, more artists coming to band against Drake? Y'all know how much I love Ross, and I would love to hear future Ross and Metro together on on a record, especially the shape that Metro and feature in right now, but Ross better tread fucking lightly. If Ross gets on here, even talking spicy subliminally, actually I want him to, because that might get Drake to come out, come out the whole pause. I want someone to talk spicy about Drake on this shit. Because I don't think Kendrick's going to do it. So maybe if Ross

starts getting on his scallop bars. Yeah, but Ross already had a feature on the first one. I know, but that was- I like that record too. That's a song. Probably one of my favorite, probably my favorite record on there. That was like in between the, the whole unfollow baby mother going to the show thing. Like, it wasn't really on yet. Mm-hmm. If Ross gets back on there, Ross's baby mother went to Drake show?

Mm-hmm. Was she on the riser? Yeah. No, she took a picture of her envelope with the gold. With the gold. Oh, she had a, she had a package at Will call. Drake did it. Drake did it.

No, no, she didn't go to ticket master and buy a ticket. Okay. She was invited. She was in the green room. Okay. Well, you know, that's... And she had never spoken to Drake a day before that unfollow.

Oh, okay. That was calculated. Got you. Okay. He said only stipulation, and I'm making this up, of course, is you have to post that photo. Got you.

Matter of fact, I'm a handwrite your name. Everyone's going to know that's my handwrite. From the boy? From the boy. That's, to Ross, B.M.

Not even a phone name. Ross B.M. From the boy. In gold leaf sharpie. And he looks like he would put like, not even love the boy, like just heart the boy. Yeah.

I mean, we'll see. I'm excited for this album. Speaking of Deluxes and. well, not rat beef, but orange beef. We got the 1111 deluxe and Chris Brown threw some shots.

Did we start this beef? Yes. Is that being narcissistic to think that we started? Yes. Well, they hated each other but we fueled it. That's why we spoke about it

because we knew they didn't like that. Chris didn't fuck with him before that. That's why we even spoke about them sitting next to each other like that. So, you know, Chris, you know, now I'm not saying our clip didn't add.

fire you know some I'm not saying it had some inspiration to address it but you know it allowed Cuevo to tweet in Chris to IG caption shit Yeah do you guys want to hear a line Of course That's six

Booty from Miami She from Puerto Rico Okay now fucking my old bitches Ain't gonna make a sequel Slipping at 1942 Cause I don't do no Cuevo Freak bitch She like Casamigos not de Migos

That song is hard by the way That's a bar So I guess Quavo and Cuervo or... Quavo and Cuervo or a play on word. So he's saying if I'm 1942, you're Jose Cuervo. I don't think we needed you to break that ball down. Thank you for that. 1942 is much higher quality to kill as well.

I don't know if you knew that. Than Jose Cuervo. It's a different shelf. Yeah, different, different. It's just a little different bracket. I get it. Fun fact that no one cares about. First time I ever threw up from alcohol when I was 15, Jose Cuervo.

So I feel Chris on this. Yeah. And Cuevo made you sick? The Cuevo made you. Hey, yo. Don't even start what she was about to say. She's about to get into some nasty shit. I know exactly what she was about to say.

We don't need that energy in here. Sorry. So does Cuevo reply? It's not the rat beef we wanted, but is it the one we need? Hey, hey, hey, say, that's a good undercard. Listen, I just hope good mental health on both of these gentlemen on Chris and Cuevo. I don't want to see black on black crime, police brutality.

You know what I mean? Just saying police brutality. That's what they said in the episode. They kind of tied. Just buzzwords and shit. Nancy Pelosi. What's? Tied all of that shit.

Yo, who? Do I be, am I the only one that C shit the way I was like, that's not wild? It's insane. That's fucking crazy, man. But anyway, you know, it is what it is. First of all, before we go any further, rest in peace to the legendary DJ, Mr. C. Yes. One of the architects, one of the pillars of hip hop.

one of the guys behind some of the greatest emcees, greatest rappers we've ever heard a staple on radio in New York City for years a staple in the nightlife and the club scene in New York City for years we lost him yesterday he passed away not sure how yet hasn't been reported

but he has passed away so rest and peace to the legendary DJ Mr. C um yeah this is a rough one condolences to his family prayers to his family you know and if you don't know

who Mr. C is and if you're a fan of hip hop I don't know how you don't know who Mr. C is but you know read on who Mr. C is read on what he's done the artist that he's broke

the records he's broke the artist that he's DJed for you know he was just one he was an encyclopedia of hip hop and you know they say our elders are like our coaches libraries

because they have so many stories and so many things tell and things like that. And Mississippi in the culture of hip hop was definitely one of those, one of those guys that if you ever had the chance to be around him and talk to him, you definitely left him knowing more about hip hop, knowing more about rap, and just know more about the culture, period, in general.

So to lose somebody like that is definitely a big loss. So prayers again to his family, his loved ones, his friends, and, you know, let's keep Mr. C's name alive. Yeah, and I know people say this like every time someone passes, but he was one of the most genuine human beings I've ever met my life. And I thank God was saying that when he was alive too. And I think everyone that crossed Mr. C's path

if it wasn't on like a Monday morning because he wasn't really a morning person. Yeah. He was one of the nicest human beings ever. Fun quick like C story just to like what represents who he was, at least to me. So he did a bunch of Paloosa. I can't even count how many times he did Paloosa.

Every Christmas, Mr. C. has a list of everyone that he worked with throughout the year who booked him who he did business with who he made money with he calls every person on Christmas to wish them Merry Christmas Happy Holidays whatever let's work next year thank you for thinking of me like that's different type of genuine shit like he was just a good dude and to your point of the historian shit we did um I think it was it for Barclays we just did this this social promo for Palooza with C And me, Carl, and C went to just bedstide. Just to shoot it took us like 30 seconds.

For the whole day, C just took us through bedstide, LG, just on like a hip hop tour of everything to do with fucking big, big daddy cane. Like it was just out of the kindness of his heart. He was like, yeah, back in the neighborhood. Let's just walk around. Let me show y'all some shit. Yeah. He was just one of those guys, man, that just loved hip hop.

you know, I mean, he loved, loved this culture that we've built and that has become one of the biggest cultures in the world. He was definitely one of the guys that helped to build it to where it is today. So, huge loss, personality that can't be replaced, passion that can't be replaced, but something that we should learn from and be as passionate and as loving in this culture as Mr. C was. So again, rest and peace to DJ Mr. C. And I think every DJ as competitive as they are, anytime they were on a set list would see. I admit, yeah, I got washed. Well, he's the finisher. He closed the set for a reason.

You can't DJ after Mr. C. I wouldn't recommend that. It's not a good idea. But rest and peace, prayers to his family. Yes. It was definitely a very shitty day yesterday. Also, rest and peace to football Hall of Famer, uh, actor, murderer. No.

wrong. Maul, are you serious? Bro. Okay. He was found, first of all, he was found not guilty. Oh, come on. He was found not guilty. Fine. Fine. The court found him not guilty. So you can't put that on somebody is all I'm saying. You can't put that on somebody. You can't put that on somebody. You can't put that on him is all I'm saying. If he go to the court and he's found not guilty, so now we believe the court system. I'm just saying, you can't call him a murderer if he was found not guilty. That's all I'm saying. I'm calling him a murderer because he's a murderer. He was found not guilty, though. I understand that. But we come in here and criticize the court every week about their awful hearings and how they handle cases. This is one of those cases. To you.

Which is fine. Okay. To you. Memorabilia stealer. He was convicted of that. Put that on his jacket. Put that on his jacket. Stealing merchant Vegas.

I'm fine with that. Put that on the jacket. So you think he's riding his Bronco into heaven right now? Chloe's father. Rest and peace to a football hall of fame of old. Simpson passed away at 76 today. He had a battle with prostate cancer, I believe. I didn't know that.

Yeah. Was that public? I don't think so. It was public. It was? I had no idea. Well, either way, the public information is that he passed away. So prayers and condolences to his family. This is still somebody's loved one, Julian.

So was. Nicole Brown and that guy, that random, no one knows his name. He just was a victim for no reason. When they passed away, I'm sure people said, I was too young, but I'm sure people say rest in peace to them too. So, yeah, OJ. They invented. They invented TMZ out of it.

Well. And didn't bring up their names once. I don't know. I was probably 11 when that happened. I don't remember. I was two, I think. So yeah, rest and peace to O.J. Simpson passes away at 76. Prayers and condolences to his family.

One of the more interesting rebrands of all time was OJ. OJ Simpson. Yeah. very strange. Speaking of convicted killers, I got in like a weird rabbit hole of Aaron Hernandez's jail calls to like his friends and family

are all over YouTube and it I felt nasty at first. I shouldn't be hearing these conversations between him and his family, but they're like compelling and riveting. It almost makes me feel like he's fucking innocent. He should have got on the stand.

It's extremely, because I've watched all the documentaries about Aaron. So you think Aaron Hernandez is innocent, but OJ Simpson is guilty? I think both of them are guilty. Oh, okay. I think Aaron's guilty for the thing he was found innocent for as well. Just watching all the docs and all the evidence, it's like, yeah, he did that shit. But hearing him actually speak to his family, like, he had to have been the biggest sociopath ever. Nothing about any of those calls would have felt like, yeah, this guy is definitely a serial killer.

it's call me naive but I think that would have been a good strategy for the defense team to get him up there talking nothing about his vibe gives sociopath gives serial killer gives angry murderer like I said the same thing about Ted Bundy yeah but that I mean yeah yeah you could talk yeah Zach Efron but I was gonna say you're talking about people that are bipolar like you can compartmentalize the crazy but it's just very and of course he's talking like his friends and family well Aaron Hernandez was definitely bipolar oh yeah one million percent. Oh yeah, he's, but could have been the CT. It's not an excuse, but yeah. Either way, if you're ever like bored and like on a run or have a long drive, just pull up the

Aaron Hernandez jail calls. They're, they're insane. They're talking about nothing, but it's, it's so compelling. Weird shit, bro. My algorithms are weird. Yeah, who wants to listen to that? How do you throw that down? Where were you doing with what time in the morning was it? I think I just, because I'm almost done with the dynasty Patriots thing on Apple. TV. So my algorithms are all attached. So that Aaron Hernandez shit came up, which by the way, that episode in the dynasty is great about Aaron Hernandez. Like way, way different than the Netflix shit. Bill Belichick's in it, Robert Krafted. They really break everything down. I did not know that when he was drafted, he asked Bill Belichick, yo, my family is in danger. I'm scared

for my life. Can you trade me to the West Coast? Before he played a single, down for the New England Patriots. They asked Bill Belichick after that, like, so why didn't you trade him? Great hands. Like, it's unfortunate what happened to everybody. I'd have been like, have you seen him play? He's like, we got a ring out of it.

Because you know that's what Bill was thinking. Yeah, like, have you seen that kid fucking run? Do you see him catch? I'm not trading him. And it's interesting hearing from like Dion Branch, she was a wide receiver. Great, I think he was a Super Bowl MVP at one point. That was really, he was like, anytime Aaron was was going through some weird shit at practice, they'd be like, go talk to Dion. Deon's the only one I can talk to him. He was, like, beating himself up. He's like,

how did I not see it? You said Deon Branch was a Super Bowl MVP? Pretty sure one year he was. Fuck, no. Over Tom Brady? I didn't, I don't pick the MVP's more. You think that, I don't know if Deon Branch won a Super Bowl MVP. I don't know if anybody. Yeah, 2001. One branch was named MVP. 2000. Was that the second one? First one? He had 11 receptions for 133 yards. He was great. He was just like on the other end of Randy Moss. Who did they play that game. That was against Carolina. Carolina. Okay, all right. Yes, I do remember that.

Hearing the jail calls, I can see why Dion was like, where I saw no signs that this guy was a full-blown murder. And I know OJ has deemed the craziest shit that we've seen in the sports world. I think this Aaron Hernandez thing is light gear's crazier than the OJ thing could ever be. OJ. doesn't

give you serial, like, killer vibes? No, he was pissed at his ex-wife was fucking someone else. Aaron Hernandez was pissed if someone spilled a drink on him. Yeah, it's a difference. It's a difference. Catching two bodies at a bar and went

after the Super Bowl. Busting out the window too. And at the Red Light. Yeah, that was right after the Super Bowl. You know how crazy that? What a wild night. Yo, and he talks about shit with one of his friends

that he played with Florida, with who I think went to the Dolphins and the Steelers or some shit. He has a bunch of jail calls with him and like it just explains nights. Like he would skip practice and go to Rihanna concerts and like try to bag Rihanna.

And Rihanna like walked away and he was like, fuck you bitch and fuck Chris Brown bitch and like starts dying laughing. I'm like, all right, maybe there is a bit of a serial killer in there. You can see it. You can see it in certain people. When they react a certain way to things you're like, oh, you got that gene in you to do some crazy shit. He talks about bagging Sierra and then Sierra just like messages go green.

It's funny but also just insane. So go listen to Aaron's jail calls. I'm going to check that out. It sounds like some weird shit, but it sounds like it can be entertaining as well. You haven't gotten to the, um, the, what was the show we told him to watch? Ultimatum. Ultimatum. You haven't gotten to it yet.

No, I didn't watch it yet. Too much shipping going on in the culture. Yeah, man. It's just been too much, you know, phone calls, conversations. I'm like, damn. Like, y'all niggas ain't called me in about a year to talk and kick it. Like now, yeah, anybody calling my phone? Don't call me now.

Viral poppy. Nah. You are viral poppy. I'm not. Oh, speaking of, uh, uh, one more person down in North Carolina. Clay message, we didn't run into each other,

but Clay was there for the first day. And he said next time he's in New York, he'll come through to studio and he'll kick it with us. Yeah, somebody told me that Clay is not the sickest one in the history of Love is Blind. They told me somebody else that's sicken than Clay. It was like, I forgot what season it was.

There was like, go check that season. Clay was definitely, he's a sick dude, but like they said it's this other dude that's way sick than Clay. So I got to check that. Man, Clay should have given Cole a pep top Right in the green room Would it never happen

No, actually Clay did Cole did what Clay did Left Kendrick at the altar Yeah, he left Kendrick at the altar Great, it would be Drake At the altar Yes, he left us You were absolutely right

We were all at the altar waiting And Cole said No, I don't want to do this It's just like It's on brand for North Carolina And I'm gonna do just like What's her name? What's her, his girl name?

AD? Just like AD did I'm gonna stand beside him stand beside him stand beside him he left that nigga no they still friends though friends

they were engaged they got an extra 10 grand again telling me they're friends they got engaged like what are you talking about they're just friends yeah devoted back to friends yeah like come on

they should have been friends before they got engaged fucking crazy um do we have voice mails you've got mail yeah let's do uh let's get off music for a bit see all right

let's get off music for a bit here's one about actually from Australia This is work advice. He's probably sleep. Hey guys. My name's Emma. I'm 27 from Australia. I'm just calling in about something work-related, which might be a nice, really for you guys.

I need some advice on dealing with my manager. She's really amazing. Backstory. She's really amazing. My job is really amazing. I have been there about two and a half years, and I've had excellent career progression. My manager's been really instrumental in helping develop my career, so I'm super grateful. But she has a problem with being a micromanager and not being able to let things go.

It's gotten to the point where she's had a couple of breakdowns at work, and I'm getting really concerned about her well-being. And I just wanted some advice on how to approach that with her in the most delicate way possible, because I don't want her to feel like I'm at a attacking her or I'm just adding more to her place. I feel like Rory suffers from this kind of issue. So advice from Rory would be good, but we'd love to hear from everyone. What's the issue? Her manager is micromanaging her too much like on her back. Not letting her work.

It's not comfortable. So maybe she's the problem. Maybe she got to do her job. Sorry, I took it personally. Her manager has control issue. I think just have a one-on-one with your manager and say, I work better this way. If you want to, like, give me a list for the week. If that'll make you feel better about micromanaging, I can give you updates with a checklist.

Hey, I got this done. There's other ways to go about it, so they're not constantly over your shoulder or texting you. Like, let me know what you need for the day and I'll hit the checklist. I don't think it's a very difficult conversation to have, depending on what her manager is like. She's a complete psychopath. Well, it's all along the lines, too, of her saying she doesn't want her to have her manager to feel like she's kind of like attacking her. But she feels attacked.

She works better without being micromanaged. That's it. Right. It's all in your approach. It's all in your approach. When and where and how you say it, I wouldn't have that conversation around other employees. That should be a private, maybe even the afterwork thing.

That seems like it could be a easy conversation. They seem to be, the reason why I don't think it would be easy conversation is because it seems like they're close. And I think her issue is not even just that her manager is micromanaging her is that she's micromanaging everyone and she sees it stress. She's worried about her own, she's worried about her manager's mental health. And I think that you have to remember that. Talk to an old Jewish lady. That you have to remember that that is your manager. So yes, you can talk to her about the way that she's handling you.

But I would, I would separate myself emotionally because a controlling. person or a micromanaging person, they're not going to change. Like, she's controlling. She's not going to change. She might change a shoe, but you're trying to change how she works and how she's been working her whole life. It's not going to work like that. I would take your emotions out of it.

That's something she got to deal with it on her own. I mean, if they are super close and it may be weird in person, maybe send an email and just try to word it correctly. So tone isn't really lost in the entire thing. And yeah, send her an email. They just wanted to run this by you. I work better this way. And do it via email if you feel uncomfortable talking to

them because you guys are close in the office. But, I mean, it's Australia. They got other shit to worry about. Like spiders and shit. Well, thank you, Emma, for calling from Australia. We appreciate that. That's it. You want to do another one?

Yeah, I thought you probably had another one queued up. I don't know. Yeah. This was more, this wasn't more R-speed. Yeah, what's good with y'all are you, ma'am? I'm going to keep this short. I thought he was going to answer. Like, yeah, my nigga.

He called in justice to say that. Like, yo, it was good. fam? I'm from Texas, mid-20s, a stable job. I got a nice house. You don't get up, bitches. Say that again?

They put that on his jacket. No, no, no. No, because he don't get him. I can tell, by the way, he listing out his accomplishments and what's so good about him, he don't get no bitches. Go ahead. He's about to say he's six feet. I dabble with a few shorties here and there.

Shut you down. Dabbles. Yeah, dabbles. Juggling them right now. I play with them and put them back in the box. Can't keep these holes all. me. Exactly. We're panned out because

I kind of just let shit linger. So I've been kicking it. I've been on my solo shit. The problem, I don't really know if it's a problem because I get no bitches, man. Wait, damn it. She read them too well.

He just said he dabbles. He was lying. He said he used to. I don't know. He said, yeah, in and out. Like, nothing serious. And he said, I get no bitches. How you say that? You got to call those bitches back.

But how you said that? How you say you dabble and didn't say I get no bitches in the same conversation? Which one is it? Is it Uchi Wally Wally or is it one mic? What are you doing? They need a therapy. Should have never. I get no bitches.

I don't really go out much. Shit, I don't go out much at all. I'm in the gym and shit. I like yourself. I like it. What do I need to do? Am I just maturing and getting out of that fun stage? I don't know.

Let me know. Yeah, he sound like... Well, before... Just real quick. Because he calls again, and we don't need to give the whole minute and a half here. But he says he was in a six-year relationship, then he got out of that fucked around, which is the dabbling with some other bitches. He said, all I know is a long-term relationship. And to earn his trust is difficult for him.

He said he's very much a home body and just doesn't want to go out and find people. Well, it sounds like he's depressed or heartbroken and still healing, which is fine. But... No, he could just be over. the way he used to get bitches and meet people he may not want to do that anymore He say he don't go out though He don't do shit

Like he just This sounds like a guy that needs a dating app Yeah That's not taboo anymore Like I think you should start that way Find someone with similar interest So it's an easier conversation You don't have to go out to a lounge

A bar or a club or whatever Just just start swiping and try to find someone A dating app The concept of a dating app is still so crazy Here we go That's why I've never been on it Because it's kind of like going to like Like Instagram

A fast food spot And looking at the menu was saying, yo, let me get a... It's literally nothing like that. Shit. The hamburger has to like you back. Yeah, I was going to say there's some agency here. They don't just...

You can't just buy the... You're talking about backbitt. You're talking about prostitution. No, I'm saying that you're going somewhere. You're looking at a menu because that's what it is. It's just a menu of people that you can go through and swipe through. Yeah, but you have to hope the shrimp likes you back. Yeah, but Instagram is not considered...

Well, I always say Instagram is a date nap. It is. But they don't consider it a date not. It 100 is. But like, when you're on a... dating app you're specifically there to swipe through people and be like oh she lives near me let's see if she wants to go get a beer what you doing on our instagram me you got me fucked up if you think i ever was swiping through tomorrow yo where you at pull up me no now nobody does that

on dating where you at this nigga does that him right here who this is always a nigga in the tree you're a nigga in the tree how i'm in the tree ma ma ma you've never went on a dating out you don't think you're putting money bags is not like swiping it's the same thing Except thousands of people see it. Yeah. Oh my God. When you go on a date. Julian sat here and said he goes on dating apps.

He's a girl that's listening to him. Oh, I'll hit her up. See what's up. We go get a beer. Go get. He said he's done that. Well, yeah, that's what, yeah, you meet someone and then go on a date with them. Is this not the same?

I come back here every Tuesday. Yeah. How was that the same? This is dating app to me. Mall. Sorry for showing Diani's ass. How was that the same? No, don't ever apologize for showing Diani.

Well, she puts it on Instagram. I don't know if she wants on a podcast. How is that the same? I just don't want you. That's another version of swiping. You coming back every Tuesday. Because if every girl, it's a girl response to your money bags

and it gives you like the eyes or like the whatever, then it's like the same thing. You can find a time to meet up with her. Get a juice or something. I don't know what the fuck you do. I was weirded out by dating apps years and years ago. Even though I've never been on one, I still,

I get them now. It's more socially acceptable. I understand people's schedules. Julian doesn't know how to talk to, women that he just meets in person. That's not true. See, I got to not going to let you do that. I've been next to him where he just shot at random chicks. Julian, he said it before.

He said, yo. Of course I failed. I'm human. No, no, no, no. That's not, I'm talking about failing. I'm saying that you, you prefer to meet women on a dating app. I say it's easier. I don't prefer it, but it's much easier.

Because I can, it's, because they're there for that. Well, it's implied if you meet. They're there to date. If you, it's implied, if you matched, you're at least physically attracted to each other enough to meet in person or to talk. And Mo, what's the difference? So you go into the tunnel. You got your freshest shit on.

The tunnel. You walk right in. You dab flex right when you walk in. A couple of, buy out the whole bar. He gives you a shout out. Then you have your menu. Is that not the same thing? Just one is in a phone and one isn't.

They still have to like you back. You still have to kind of speak to them. It's not the same because we're actually in person. I can see this person. Yeah, but you can see someone on a dating app after you message that and say, hey, let's meet up. There's a lot of tricks and loops with that shit now with dating apps. You don't look like that. You don't think of that.

Wait, you don't think a girl in a dark club with makeup on, you can't get catfished? When the lights come on at the club, you never been catfished? He definitely has. I have. Yeah, I mean, when I was young, as an adult, no. The fuck, you think I've been catfish as a grown man? I'm saying when you've been in the club.

This chick is not, he's not that cute, no matter if with the club or not? But I think our- When I'm 20-21, I don't give a fuck what she looked like when it's gone on. We've all been on the internet so long, we've started to adapt to what the catfish tells are anyways. Same way when you know. you're in the club is dark, you could tell by how she did her foundation that that girl don't look like that.

Same thing. No, but it's different. If she got photos all shoulders up or just right here up. Yeah, but when I'm face-to-face. We know when we look just at our arm. Yeah, but when I'm face-to-face, you can't get that shoulder-up shit off. I'm looking right at you. That's why it's the difference.

I don't know, man. Those fahas be sucking it in. I could see a faha-ha-thor outfit. They got the little booty grabber things that you can like, they're like shorts that have like a hole where your booty is that lift your butt in the club. Like you can put some shit on that lifts your ass. And then when you take the clothes off the app, I'm not wearing no shit like that.

I got tricked by five once. That was the most depressing thing ever. You did? How did you get tricked by five? Two years ago. You didn't know she had one on? I didn't, well, I didn't know what the fuck they were. You thought she was wearing a bulletproof vest?

Well, no, like I didn't, you know, you see a girl in a dress at a club. I'm like, that she looks great. And then we went back to her place and then she was like getting undressed and took that shit off. And I was like, oh, hell no. Spilled out of that shit. Was she fat? Like she was a fat? That shit sucks in like 30 pounds.

Yeah. Fuck that. I left. Why? Get the fuck out of here. What is this lie? It's like if we get to your crib and then I take off my pants and I got two prosthetic legs on. Yeah.

What's wrong with that? You still walk to the club. Don't leg shame. It's all right. No. I still dance pretty well tonight, right? With these wood legs. I was on beat.

I don't get tired. Yeah. I can run all night. Oh, yeah. No. All right, well, if she can't wear the Faha, shave your beard. That's not, what? I hate when women's teeth, that fuck.

Shave your beard. Beards are makeup for men. No, this is not. This is my face, for real. Nah, it's. Rory. There's some niggas without a beard, though. They got that bottom joel look like a cash register.

That shit changes everything. It really does. But a beard is natural, though. But I grew this myself. Yeah. It's natural. Yeah. But then again, I guess the Faha, like.

That's not natural. That's not natural. You just, you know, you just put. putting all your organs in one place for the night. For the night. Then once the night is over and go back home. And then all the organs go back to where they should be. All right, Mall.

So if you're suggesting he doesn't hit the dating apps and this guy's a home body, how does he meet women? Well, he got to get outside. You can't, I mean, staying home and just being on a date nap, meeting women, that's first step serial killer one-on-one. He should go through your following and just try to. Nah, just get out. I don't know.

Where did he say you from Texas, I think? Texas. Oh, my. Come on, fan. Kid me? But which Texas? I don't care what Texas He's from.

The big state. Texas. I don't care. Okay, we can assume he's black. He's African American, correct? Caleb? His name is Caleb. I'm going to say he's either in Dallas,

Houston, or Austin. Okay. I don't think Caleb is in San Antonio. He doesn't give you San Antonio Bob? No, I don't think he's in Corpus Christi. He might be in Galveston. And that nigga is in. Galveston got him too.

It's some nice ones in Galveston. Home fed. Corp is. Christy has them. I don't know what you're talking about. Yeah, but, you know, that's a different type of. They just get flooded out every hurricane, but they go back. Caleb is in Houston, Dallas, or Austin.

I'm going with that. Even Galveston. I'll give you. Maybe Port Arthur. But that could be even, what, P.A. has him. So he's in Texas. Maybe he's overwhelmed then.

Because it sounds like he's... He's not overwhelmed from his crib. But he's saying he's over the shit he used to do. I can't do this anymore. In Houston, sometimes he may only know the hookah spots and strip clubs. He is over. explore his city. He's not over it. First of all, he called in to this

podcast asking, saying, yo, I don't get no bitches help me. You're not over it. Second of all, he didn't say, well, I think I'm, he didn't say I'm over. He said, well, maybe, maybe it's because I'm not into the things I used to be into. No, you into it. You just ain't got the juice no more. You got to get your juice back. Wait, what do you mean he can't? Like, he doesn't know

the bouncer. The juice is officially loose. That's his, that's his quote, not me. What do you mean he doesn't have juice anymore. Like he can't get into the same spots or he doesn't have the same amount of bread. He might not have the swagger. He might not have the mojo-jo. It's just he got to change where he's hanging out.

Don't go to the club no more. Go to a jazz lounge. That's my bag. I went to a jazz lounge. I ain't going to lie to y'all, man. They wasn't in there. She wanted one of my favorite spots. Django. They wasn't in there. We was the only ones in there. And shout out to one of the players. That would be one of your favorite spots. No, don't do that. It's one of the best jazz. There's not a lot of single, like straight single people at

jazz clubs. Usually people on dates. And old-ass white people. A lot of old white people. This room is beautiful, though, this venue. Oh, that's where we shot Fab, you'd be killing him. Really? Mm-hmm. Oh, it was... The Django? Yeah. Oh, nice. It was beautiful in there, and shout out to them, because they had, like, the musicians were wonderful. One of them recognized me. He was

a fan of the show, so shout out to him. Josh was his name. So you're saying Josh wasn't... He's not one of them? You said they wasn't in there? He was one of the musicians. But he's not one of them. So you say you wouldn't date a musician? Y'all, all right, y'all are purposely being dense.

But the bitches wasn't in there. Oh, I thought you were talking about the men. No, I'm talking. Where am I ever going looking for men? I could have told you the bitches wasn't at the jazz club. You're the dense one, not me. Ball just told him to go to the jazz club. That's why I said that.

I think the jazz club y'all hanging out at just don't have no. The jazz club in Houston might have. Yeah, they probably got them. I was waiting for somebody to say that. Y'all not going to tell me that women don't go to jazz clubs. I mean, I was in there with them. Exactly. Exactly my point.

I'm just going to sit here and let y'all talk yourselves in circles and then come back like, y'all proving what I'm saying, correct? Yeah. I'm still on the side of get on a dating app to start. That's what I'm saying. And you can maybe meet more bitches through those bitches that you meet, even if they're not the bitches that you want a bitch with. He sounds like he needs to be more social, just in general.

Do he can do both. You can do both. Go out and then see, Julianna tell you what you do is you go out and then you get on the dating app for bitches near you. while you're out and bitches be out on the dating apps while they're out. Well, I wouldn't tell you. I don't do that. You don't?

Yes. No. No, no, no, no, no. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, so you plant, it's a long, it's a long, it's a long, it's a long, it's a long, it's a long, it's a long, it's a long, you need help. That is wild. Brush your teeth first.

No, you, we weigh up, like, go to the gym while you have a day, and then, like, say, like, it's a Saturday morning. What is that? How about having to have it. Saturday morning. That's the rest of your day. How about having it. Saturday morning.

When you look at, you do the scene, whatever, look at the app, whatever. And then you'll catch a couple matches throughout the Saturday day. And then going into the night, you're having dinner with your guys or whatever. Like shooting fish in a buffets. You've already, by the time it would be the meetup time, it's like you've already been talking for maybe three to four hours. So it's like the bears at the top of the stream waiting for the salmon and just jumped to them. There's a lot of salmon. What usually is like your first three hours?

conversation like just the basics or um it depends i don't know i don't have like a go-to really i'm trying to think advice for this gentleman well my advice oh damn i'm about to give out one of the best pieces of advice on a dating app game is to be sold not told i think i'll put us on a paywall you heard what he just said damn i'm about to give out some of the best piece of advice this is real game because i know a lot of people that listen to this around dating app never like someone's photo hmm you just shook the room with that advice why maris came in comment She can't even compute that. Demar, she been doing it wrong the whole time.

I almost just told you something. I haven't gone too much lie. Wait, so what? Julian, go ahead. I didn't know you could even like photos. So if you look at a hinge profile is usually like three photos and then three prompts. So there's photo, prompt, photo, prompt. So it's like the prompts like two truths in a lie and then you can say whatever.

It's like you can choose whatever prompt you want to answer. Yeah, you choose your adventure. Response to the prompt. Okay. Always respond to a prompt. And if you're funny, respond. If I'm with a joke, that's usually where I succeed. Are you funny?

That's usually where I crush. Yo, I came to here with a different energy today because I'm telling you, man. You still owe me an apology, Maul. Fuck you. I apologize to you. I said I'm, yo, I apologize. And Julian, no bullshit. If what I said ruined your relationship with somebody, you don't need that relationship.

I was going to say, why does Moore have to apologize? That's another thing. No, because I didn't want, I don't want Julian to think that, you know, I intended to do it. That wasn't my intention. friction between him and his friends. I didn't want to do that. But if what I said caused friction between you and your friends, you got to reevaluate your friends, bro.

Because I didn't have no malice. It wasn't no venom in what I was saying. I didn't mean no disrespect. But I was just standing on my opinion, my truth, and what a lot of people echoed the same sentiments. So, I mean, you know. The only thing I'd say is you only, you have to remember a lot of 99.5% of the people

aren't listening to the full episode. Of course. They're just saying the viral clip. just that. I'm sure Cole wants to fight me based off of a clip. I'm sure. But then if we watch it

and listen to the whole episode together, he's gonna be like, oh, no, you fuck with me. Come on, dog. Yeah. You know what I mean? Anyway,

don't like photos, like the prompts. All right. Great advice. Does it say how many likes they have already? No, it's not like that kind of like.

It's like, it's basically like a swipe. You know how you could say swipe left or swipe right? It's basically you swiping left or right whatever. Oh, got you got. But it's not.

It's just they call it a like. So like I can go and like picture and if you see it and you can hit match that. Got it. So they see the answer to your prompt and then can accept you. Yes. And respond. If you answer a prompt, it automatically starts a conversation. So I would advise that he get on dating apps. I would advise that he get outside and I would advise that you get in your bag. And when I say get in your bag, go get a fresh cut, go get a new outfit, update your Instagram, like really start, like eat well, go to the gym. And once you start like, feeling yourself, you'll start

exuding that confidence, and people will smell that on you and they'll be attracted to you. Fair models. I would do all three, all of the above. Because we could smell when a nigga looking for bitches. If you just out and your goal is, man, I ain't got no bitches. I need a bitch. It's literally

we smell it on you. We can smell the desperation. It's disgusting. Smelling desperation is hilarious. Waits, underarms a little funky or something? It's just like, it's a, you could tell the same way when you out and you see a bitch that just, You'd be like, oh, she just wants, she came here to try to, you see it, ma. You can smell that shit.

Yeah. It's a great smell. She'll usually let you know. $200 for an hour. You don't need to smell shit. You need to hear it. $400 to spend a night. She'll let you know.

$400 spend the night. Wow. Yeah. You need to update prices. $400. That's it. Yeah. Paying for a girl to spend the night to me is fucking crazy.

That's, I thought she was paying for her to leave. Paying for a girl to do anything is crazy to me. That's true. To me. me. I know other people, though, they subscribe to that. Well, I don't know. I mean, if they have a special skill. You fucking Liam? I've gotten a lot of special skills for free. No, I mean sexually. Like, what if she's, you know,

does acupuncture? Oh, now, that's a, that we got to keep her. Yeah. A girl that can lay you down. What's her night feet? A girl that can lay you down on a massage table and turn you into a porcupine? Yeah. For sure. So good. I started getting it. It's nice. Yeah. Add it to your prompts. Wait, what's your prompts for them? to answer.

Bang or no bang. Swipe left, swipe left, swipe. I'll tell my. You're trying to fuck yes or no. I'll tell mine if you do yours. I would have to reactivate. How about Patreon? How about Patreon? Can we do it on Patreon? We can do that on Patreon. I'll come up with prompts for myself.

I'm cool with that. We can make YouTube profiles and I'll show you mine. Wait, I think since Loyon's here, can you cancel our Tinder premium? I don't think we ever canceled that. Oh my God. We did. Still running it up? So we did a- I have not been on Tinder since that It was a Patreon thing.

We signed up for Tinder where I made a profile about Mall. Like, I was Mall on Tinder and he was me on Tinder. And I think I got the premium, like, unlimited swipes so we could swipe for everybody. I think that might still be on our account. Yeah, let's take that off. We might be in the red because of Tinder. Let's take that off ASAP, please. Or let's bring it back.

I do have a question for y'all. We could go to Patreon with it. Have you ever seen like a, like a, like a, a, full-blown dyke funeral. Sorry. What was the last word I missed? Wait, like everyone that attended the funeral was a dyke as well? No, like a dyke in a casket.

Have you ever seen that? No. They live pretty long. Can we discuss that on Patreon? Because I've got to, I'd love to see where you want to take that conversation. I don't think dykes die. They're immortal? I think they just turn in like rocks or something.

I don't know. What the fuck? Can we cut? They just turn into boiled dildos? They just turn into a Yankee fitted? Yeah, they turn in the, they turn in the, jerseys or something. I don't know. I've never seen a dyke in the casket. I'm being honest, Yom, you know I love you. I've never seen it. How many? Has anybody Yom, you're gay? Have you been

to a dyke's true? She's also not. What? Yomi is gay. She's, like. Demaris and her a bye. Yeah, like, she's like a lot of things. What's that? No, what's that? I don't know the proper turn when you're a lot of things. Yomi just told me two months ago she has a girlfriend. Yeah, but she's also has told you she's dated men before. But I'm talking about currently, today. You're gay. It's not, it's not like a switch. No,

no, no, wait, whoa, I don't want you. You're going to get me canceled. It's not what I want you to be. Oh,

she's going to get you canceled. I'm just saying. I have never, I'm not, Yomi. Okay, Yomi, you're bisexual.

Whatever, right? Have you ever? No, listen. No, you like, you like, condigay. No,

you're bisexual, whatever. Some days you gay, some days. Sometimes you feel like a nut. Sometimes you know. Get it. Have you ever,

Have you ever seen a dyke funeral? Have you de Maris? You bisexual? Have you? Yes, I have. You seen a girl? I had an aunt that was a dyke that, yes. Did she wear a suit?

She died of HIV. Oh, she was a dought. No, she didn't wear a suit per se, but she wasn't dressed super feminine. Gotcha. That is so interesting to me. I've never, I've never seen anybody go to like a, not lesbian because I know pretty lesbians that. Oh my God. You're not talking about them, right?

Because somebody makes himself talking about it. No, they call them like the lipstick lesbians. like the feminine lesbians. I've seen feminine gay women's funeral. I've seen that. But I'm talking about like the, the, the, the, that we go to the same ball with them women? I've never seen them die. Masculine presenting.

Masculine presenting. I've never. Like tortoises. They live to like 300. I've never seen a funeral from one of them. Never. And I know if I grew up around something. I'm like, yo, like, has anybody been like, yo, has anybody been like, yo, has anybody?

He can be like, no, I don't. Who did you verify that one? I don't. I've asked this question to like eight people and none of them could be like, yo, bro. Why did you ask that question? to eight people. Because I thought about it. I was just like, yo, I've never been, and I've been to a lot of funerals. I've never been to a masculine presenting woman's funeral. Never. I've never seen it. So that's what I was like. You're saying that science should study them. Yo. We might have a game, but. Yomi is asking you

have any friends that are masculine presented women. Yes. I do and they're, they're all still alive. What about a gay man's funeral? I've been a few of those. We just got so many. I've been to a few Just sounds funny after our last episode. I've been to a few of those. So you've been to funerals. Yeah, but a few gay, a few gay men funerals. They're not gay funeral.

They're just funeral. They're just a funeral. No, not a gay funeral, but like it was a gay. I've been to a few of those. It was crazy. It's a gay man that passed away. I've been to that type of funeral before. Yeah, because I would just think that, you know, it's not Bible verse.

They sing Liza Minle or something. Yeah, you know, whatever. Like, you know, how's it hanging to the left, whatever. No, it is what it is. They vogue as they carry the casket? Yeah, like, I don't know. But I'm just saying I've never been to a masculine presenting woman's funeral. But Maris said her aunt.

Well, I think that's good because that means all the masculine women in your life are still healthy and alive. Yeah, and I think that we need to figure out what they're doing where their lifespan is so long. Which is kind of crazy, though, because all the very masculine. I think they all live in the blue zones. You know the blue zones in the world? Where it's like people that live the longest. Mm-hmm. I think the masculine presenting women found the blue zones in the world.

Or maybe they don't get male attention and that probably allows them to live longer. Oh, shit. They ought not. They be dogging these chicks. Their karma is awful. Is it? Masculine women, dog women out way worse than we do. Damn, I didn't know that.

And if you think about it how healthy they are, most of the masculine women I know drink way too much Hennessy, have awful diets, do not work out. Yeah, it is interesting how they have that. That is so interesting to me. That's something to be studied. I know it's like a weird thing to think about, but I really am interested in that. Like I've never seen that before.

Like never seen a masculine presenting woman. It's like Dykes and Cuban men. Just live till they're 100. Interesting. Well, no, I don't want to do a hard topic change, but this happened. We can either keep this on this or go to Patreon.

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