New Rory & MAL - Episode 26 | "Turmeric D**k"
Episode Date: December 14, 2021Back after the Russ episode and a chill weekend, the guys get right to the shits; the shits being the reunion of Drake and Kanye at the Free Larry Hoover benefit concert held in Los Angeles. Rory and ...Mal give their opinions on the show, the experience of live tweeting it, and speculate how a Kanye & Drake tour would look in 2022. They speak on Travis $cott’s interview about the tragic incident at his festival, and this segues into a thankful Rolling Loud LA recap, as they celebrate a safe completion of the festival, even though LA is in a self-proclaimed “purge”-adjace state currently. The guys rehash memories of summer camp, and decide to take the New Rory & Mal team on an Adult Summer Camp trip. Mal stresses over the thought of having daughters, and this leads into a conversation about Rory giving up his preference to keep his white bloodline pure, because Gingers are going extinct. They also cover Rick Ross’ new album honestly, speak on more new music that was released + more! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoicesSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Yes, yes, yes.
We are back.
Carl doing his focus.
We can keep it rolling.
Go across the kid.
This is live.
Live studio audience.
Yes, yes, yes.
We got the execs in the control rooms.
We have to watch our mouths.
Fuck shit.
Yeah.
Bitch.
This fucking tea is great.
Yeah.
Who the fuck was that?
Jesus.
We have a COVID-free staff.
We had a little scare this morning
because our engineer
wanted to be a hussy.
Wow.
All weekend and just run around
and put his mouth in other people's mouths.
Yeah.
Nasty fuck.
Smoking hookah with everybody.
Smoking hookahs,
spitting in chick's mouth.
No, you get down in.
Smoking hookah with hookers.
That sounds like a good album's title.
Huka with hookah.
There's certain women that use hookah like a pacifier.
Certain women just use hookah because they don't want to talk to nobody.
I'm hip to that game.
No, you could really like shot a lot of them up with hookah.
Like a pacifier.
Yeah.
Just passing the tip.
They'll be quiet.
Yeah.
I like it.
Is this blue mist?
More here a word from them ever going.
If hookah just disappeared forever, I wouldn't be mad.
I mean, why though?
It's disgusting.
I still participate.
Like, when I see people eating and smoking hook at the same time, I'm like, fam.
What are you doing with you?
Where is your life at?
Yeah.
Like, how depression is it at home?
Those, to even say the food was bad while you're smoking Minhuka, is the funny.
It's like, just the eggs weren't, they didn't really hit today.
I wonder why.
You had blue mist all on your tongue, that's why.
Can you pass the hot sauce?
Yeah.
For what?
For what?
Yeah.
Can't taste nothing anywhere.
You got mint flavored pancakes right now.
Word.
Anyways.
So up, though.
How are you feeling?
I'm good.
I'm good.
I can't complain.
It was all right.
How's the place coming along?
It's not coming along because we work too much, we travel too much.
I literally unpack my clothes and that's it.
That's it.
I ordered a couch.
It's not coming until fucking 2023.
To March.
Yeah, look everywhere.
Finally found one.
I was like, yes.
And then they were like, oh, yes, sir.
We have to literally make this from scratch.
But I like that though.
I like kind of being in a new empty space and just watching it come together slowly.
Yeah, that shit.
It just gets annoying like once you actually want to relax in a crib and it not feel like you just moved in when you moved in.
when you moved in two months ago.
Yeah, if you had the couch, though, it would be easier because, man, we sleep on the couch.
That's just the couch.
All right, what's the song I can start with making you uncomfortable?
Start with the shit you was playing in the cold-ass green room.
No, we're going to get to that.
We got to dig in the crates.
Okay.
That's how you feel?
On my low bed, yeah.
You feel lonely?
This was a sick first single.
For those that are watching right now, playing A-Con, Mr. Lonely.
Yeah, great record.
He came out the gate with the sad vibes.
And there was never sad again?
No.
Got rich.
Wasn't lonely ever again?
No.
Never.
Yo.
What's that with Acon?
Is he still making music?
No, he's making cities and shit.
Yeah.
I guess once you start making cities and civilization better for people.
Yeah, I think he invented electricity in certain cities.
Some city, yeah.
Absolutely.
That's kind of crazy.
Like, how do you get into Acon City?
Regular passport?
Do I need a COVID test?
For sure, I need a COVID test.
I think you got to know like five of his B sides.
You got to name five of his B sides and you can get in.
Got to know his brother and shit.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, serve a shit like that.
You got to be like, all right, yeah, he's one of us.
That's funny.
Well, shit, while we were going, some things did happen.
We did our Russ interview and just mainly spoke about that.
So I know there was a lot of stuff we didn't touch and a lot of stuff that happened after that.
Yeah.
Russ interview was cool.
Shout out to Russ.
I had a great time talking to Russ, man.
Thought that was a great conversation.
Really good album.
Really good album.
Chomp, too.
If you haven't heard, go get it.
What?
You don't have to go get it.
Just a marketing whiz over here.
I see why Rockefeller is still going.
That was a good album.
Really good album.
I can't believe you were on the Rockefeller Street Team.
Like, you was just standing outside.
I was not on the street team.
Memphis Bleak, 534 out now.
She's crazy.
That's when you had to put all the flies up all over the place.
Did you drive in the bends?
No, I was young.
I was young as shit.
I know.
Have I been in it?
You can steal the Rockefeller Benz when you were kid?
Nah, man.
I stole my mother's toy.
You can't steal a Rockefeller bass?
The street team used to always...
Lenny S had that bins a lot, I believe.
Yeah, he had that bins a lot at the time.
You sound salty about that.
No, I was young, man.
I was cool getting on the train.
When you're 15, 16, the train is the shit.
Train is the shit when you're 31.
Nah, that shit kind of trash now.
Real world problems, groan.
You're trying to get some weird people yelling.
Everyone's getting robbed.
Everything bothers you, the older you get.
Everything.
Oh, I mean, it bothered me when I was 15.
I can imagine now.
Well, you've been old since you were 15, so...
And annoyed, for sure.
I understand.
But yes, after the Russ interview, I think that same very night, let's just get right to it.
Kanye, Drake.
Yeah.
What a night.
The show that you desperately wanted to go to.
You had your outfit picked out, laid out on the bed.
No, I was going to go shopping when we landed.
That's the type of shit I'm on now.
What would have been the first store when you think Drake and Kanye?
Like, I got to give him something.
Well, it was cold, so you need something sturdy.
You need something kind of heavy out there.
All black is always safe to do.
Would you have bought the fisherman boots?
I mean, because you already had the hat.
I feel like Kanye kind of bit your style.
You came in here with the Dick Sporting Good, you know, bass pro shop hat.
And then he came on stage with some, like he was going fly fishing.
Yeah, those are those was kind of nasty.
I wasn't feeling those.
You was feeling those?
I mean, listen, every time I said I haven't felt something, it becomes the trend.
No, but that's okay.
And then after a year, I'm like, no, I got to go fly fishing.
Nah.
No, them joints are trash.
Okay.
I can't get jiggy with those.
And I know his feet was hurt.
that long-ass walk they had to take before they got to the stage?
That was a lot.
Them boots was heavy as shit.
That walk was like, you know, in between after the marriage and then you go into the reception
and all that shit and then the couple does like that big walk down.
That's what that felt like.
It was worse than that.
It felt just like that.
It was dope, but I know that with those heavy-ass boots, that was a workout.
Listen.
Where do we begin on this?
And are you going to be truthful?
Yeah.
Yeah, very truthful.
Do we have to start with, we love and respect both of these legends and we love
everything that they've ever done ever we do they've changed the world we do they did do we have
to start that way though no okay was this a versus no why not well they didn't do the same amount of
songs so you can't do a versus and not do the same amount of songs all right half versus this was a
uh this was a purses who got paid more uh larry hoover okay i'm with you on that
Which I hope so, right?
Do we want to start with the music
or do we want to start with charity
and awareness concerts to begin with?
No, we got to be honest with those.
We got to save that.
Okay.
That we got to save it.
All right, cool.
Let's start with the show.
Let's start with Kanye West coming out first.
For some reason, him and Drake had to walk down
like they had just been married
and people were throwing rice on them
and then Drake veered off to the left
and Kanye went on top of the moon.
Which I believe, did they not come out to a Travis Scott song?
Talk about a tone-deaf intro of live shows at the moment.
Like, I don't know if Travis would be my
intro song at the time. It was either Travis and one of Travis's kids. It sounded like Travis
to me. I thought it was a key record. I heard Travis. I just feel like that may have not been
the time. I just think Travis makes great music, but maybe today isn't the day that we start a live
show with a Travis song to really get the crowd hype. Well, you know, Kanye is a Godfair man.
And maybe he just felt like it's time for forgiving. You know what I mean? Let's forgive Travis.
Let's pray for him. Let's, you know, lift him up.
these trying times.
All right, well, then say that.
You said it.
You said it what I'm saying.
Don't walk out to a Travis Scott song
three weeks after
that live show, Escapade.
I mean, I'm called Escapade.
Tragedy.
Yeah, I mean, I understand.
It's not like I was walking out
and I'm like, dog, I don't have anything
that's going to hype the crowd up.
I'm walking out with Drake.
Let's play a Travis song.
What's the point of that?
That definitely was not the song
I thought we would hear first, for sure.
Definitely wasn't.
So that kind of was like,
okay, a little different.
curveball, straight out the gate.
Okay.
But visually, one of the greatest shows I think I've ever seen.
It looked amazing.
The setup was amazing.
You know, the smoke with the lights and the lights changing the color of the smoke and all of that,
looking like they were on top of a spaceship.
And then the fans in the background, their phones looking like stars.
Like, I see the whole visual thing.
That was amazing.
I thought, but I didn't expect anything less from Kanye.
I mean, I think Cuddy may have been owed some royalties, but I think it was cool.
Yeah, no, it looked great.
It looked amazing.
The setup was amazing.
So that was a plus.
Now, as far as the actual performance,
I thought Kanye was off-key a lot of the records.
I agree.
A lot of the performance, he was off-key a lot.
He definitely performed the right records.
He performed the shit he was supposed to perform.
Maybe a couple that I thought he would have did that he didn't do.
Which were what?
Can we pull up?
Do we have a track?
list. I'm sure someone at
Complex put together a track list.
I saw one as soon as it was over.
All right. So yes,
Kanye was definitely off-key on a lot of records.
Yeah. I will shoot
some bail with a lot of things that
did happen around the time
they were playing this concert. I know some
focus was elsewhere.
So to rehearse a lot of songs that he's probably
not performed in quite some time,
I'll give you bail there.
As far as for getting lyrics, too, I'll give you
some bail there. Sound check.
the synths and the guitar did whatever the fuck they want.
I don't know who did sound check.
Whoever was in the booth during sound check was like,
yo, everyone sounds good.
Yo, guitar synth, do whatever the fuck you want.
Yeah, it was loud at times in the show.
And if that was intentional, I don't know,
I'm not a musical genius.
Maybe it was intentional.
Now, it was an amazing performance to me.
With all of that,
the nostalgia of everything
overrode every shit that I didn't like about it.
Kanye going through those records,
especially as the surprise
because he says
he's not performing
secular music
and all that type of stuff
it was great
to hear those records again
now that going into
the Drake part
I feel they dropped the ball
he didn't come out
and do say what's real
better find your love
would have been nice
but I thought it was cool
do a little cover
while he's on there
and flashed to Drake
in the front row
singing his own song
in the front row
Drake and chose
in the front row man
Okay. That was a row. It was people in line. You're right. Yeah, they were in a row.
That was like Drake's bat mitzvah or like Sweet 16. It was like his father hired Kanye West to perform at his Bob Mitzvah.
Because they just kept panning to Drake in the front row singing all the songs.
Well, they wanted to, I guess they wanted the people at home to just see that.
Yeah, like he's the special guest.
I had said, and I had gotten in trouble from a partner that I was working with about one of my tweets that I
I didn't think was that outrageous.
I did miss live tweeting.
I felt like Twitter was back for the first time in a minute.
Everyone was watching the same thing at the same time
and tweeting about it.
I had said because Kanye is now such a religious man
that this felt more like a verses of who the son of God really is,
as Drake is Jewish and Kanye is Christian.
Innocent joke, that didn't fly over very well.
Like I know you're not allowed to say anything about Jewish people.
I just said it was a versus on who we have to decide who the son of God is.
It's verses.
Yeah.
Okay.
Is he a prophet?
They both looked like,
they both look like profits coming down,
those steps like,
it looked like, you know.
I wanted to hit Brianda and see what she thought.
Listen, man,
it was underwhelming in the sense of the,
the way I thought the performance was going to go
before, when we first heard about the show,
I didn't think that Drake was only going to perform eight records.
So that was like, and those eight records.
It was kind of like, okay,
I wouldn't have went with that eight.
All right, let's call it spay to spay.
He sounded fine.
I love what he did on 24.
Covering that.
He killed it.
He killed 24.
Kanye coming out after all those records once we find the own, the set list, was amazing.
Then when Drake came on in 24 and sounded really good, I was like, oh, this is about to be the greatest concert of all time.
We're about to go down memory lane and prove that these two are the icons that we know them to be.
Then Drake went on to play me CLB.
after I heard a medley of Kanye West Greatest Hits.
That brought me from 14 years old to 25 years old.
I'll be honest with you, after I hear it, can't tell me nothing.
TSU just doesn't really hit for me, dog.
I'm sorry.
Yeah, I didn't want to hear way too sexy.
You know how I felt like that right.
Can you explain to me why Drake did that?
Way too sexy?
No, just CLB records period.
Well, I guess he, you know, the album came out.
This was the first time he was, I guess, performing since the album drop that I can, I think,
I don't think he's performed since the album drop.
No.
So maybe that, maybe that was kind of like what he wanted to give the people with some of his
recent work.
But that's not what that show was.
We don't know what it was.
It wasn't Donda versus C-LB.
It wasn't, this is the Donda show mixed with special guests certified lover boy.
We saw what time it was.
And if it is a Kanye show, I feel like you should probably go with what the
theme of the person that's throwing the concert is doing.
I thought him doing no friends in the industry was hilarious.
I don't know if anybody else caught that.
I thought that was like the funniest shit of the night.
I mean, I felt like they were still unsure, but I saw my man Topes tweeted.
Looks like Chubbs is still a little unsure of us doing this shit.
No, Chubbs was definitely, he was, he's the homie that's like, yeah, I know y'all piece
it up, but I'm still on point over here in case shit get a little, you know what I mean?
Because it's still some energy of floating around.
There's certain guys in his camp that might still feel a certain way, so we got to kind of stay on point.
But you got to understand that and respect that. I respect that.
All right, but was it respect to do CLB? And I'm not, I promise I'm not shitting on CLB.
But does that allow Kanye to be the superstar? And does that allow us to not have the debate or make this a versus at all?
Because if Drake went down his, his catalog. People were going to make it a versus anyway.
Of course they were. And in knowing that, did you save yourself people having that combo because you said, well, I just wanted to try my new shit?
was it kind of a backout move.
Now, granted, I think Drake can hang with Kanye West at a versus show.
We know that.
So to not go down that road, to me, looked like he was taking the step out.
Like, all right, I'm just going to do CLB shit so no one could say that I had to match up against Kanye West, even if I'm only doing half a set.
Well, again, I'm just guessing.
Maybe that's his newest work.
He hasn't performed it.
maybe he felt like that was
you know what people wanted
it's his latest album
he's never performed it live
maybe he figured this is the perfect time
I know how many people are going to be watching this
and I know many people are going to be at this show
I wouldn't have went with those records
some of those records but
again I'm not you know
I'm not one of the biggest artists in the world so
but even like
even when he did
Tyler's festival and
Drake has done pop-ups at other festivals
he's done his own festival for a very long time
Of course those are longer sets, but he still adds, like,
Drake is very aware of what people want to hear at shows.
Like if we're going to the Scorpions or I'm going to expect to hear a lot of Scorpions, though.
But he always mix in a lot of other shit.
Of course.
When he just does festivals, he'll put a new record in,
but a lot of that will be the joints that we want to hear at a show,
especially up next to Kanye West who's not performing any records from Donda,
maybe one.
And is giving me all his classic shit.
Drake did.
He came out to 24, did once in needs, no friends in the industry, what's next?
Life is good.
Laugh now, cry later.
I.M.Y. 2. Girls want girls. In the Bible, way too sexy.
Knife talk. God's plan.
It's a mediocre set to me, though.
Yeah, I definitely could have did, but I way too sexy.
I just don't, that record ain't for me.
I see what it does, though. I've been in the club.
I know people love that record. I see what it does.
but not for me.
No friends in the industry is just hilarious.
I just like after squashing the beef,
are you coming out and like
rapping those bars that were directed at Kanye?
That's just hilarious to me.
But I want to know like where Kanye,
or maybe Drake was not aware of his setless.
Maybe they gave Drake the okie-doke
because Kanye said I'm not performing secular music anymore.
Like I can't, I'll do Jesus walks and that's about it.
Maybe Drake thought this was a Donna show.
So all right,
do my shit, my new, my new shit. I mean, he did niggas in Paris. He did gold diggers. And granted,
I think that was appropriate because a lot of pastors are gold diggers. But he went down
a rabbit hole of secular music. Yeah, like, I look at the set list. Like, relo, because I don't have it.
Tamara, someone texted you. He did, no, we're in the group. I don't think he did. Kanye did,
Jesus walks, all falls down, gold digger, touch the sky, stronger, all of the lights, black skin
head all day, mercy, good life, flashing lights.
say you will I wonder find your love run away can't tell me nothing they didn't do glow
our favorite record I actually didn't expect them to blow that would have been the perfect set
to do it I was shocked that they ended with forever I thought that was dope I really enjoyed that
but other than that like it was kind of a waste to me it felt like when hove and nazgay was
black Republican this was black Republican in visual form this is black Democrats yeah well
Kanye is a we don't know a party
he's in and Drake is not even American
citizen so
diplomatic immunity
I don't know which one this would be
but this felt like
we were happy Jay and Nas
got back together we anticipated it
and then they played a beat for a minute
and Jehul was like oh just
we dancing give us a minute
and then we got a mediocre song
from two legends that had
prior been beefing
and to me this was black
Republican. Y'all should have just waited.
Don't do it just to do it.
Or get on the same page, because I thought Kanye did great.
As far as his set.
Yes.
Like the records he performed.
Yeah, the set was the thing.
You know, Kanye definitely checked off the boxes as far as records he was supposed
to perform.
I've seen people killing him, killing Drake, though.
I thought Drake sounded better.
I thought he did.
Vocally, he sounded better than Kanye.
Again, that's his verse.
in the 24, I think they need to record that and put that out.
Yeah, that was our.
Yeah, but it wasn't the records that I thought he should have did, honestly.
I was expecting to hear other records, some joints off of Take Care, some joints off of
if you're reading this is too late.
You know, like, I thought that, again, I didn't think that it was going to be,
I didn't think that Drake was going to, and he performed more records than I, from this track
was than I thought, honestly, I thought he only did like eight records.
And even when they started doing, like, when he did Better Find Your Love and
they was real.
I thought they were going to get in the bag
to show how much work
they actually had done together in the past.
Like, I know I'm asking
for a lot here, but when he did all the lights,
it would have been able to have Drake do his
verse that didn't make the album.
Because Drake is on all the lights.
His verse is really good on all the lights.
Yeah, I was honestly expecting them to do
a record that we haven't heard.
I thought that once they announced that
they were going to do this show
and they were obviously spending some time together,
I figured they might have jumped.
something in the studio did something that was going to debut it that night and then we would get it on
DSPs.
Do you think he's petty for getting all the lyrics to better find my love?
Do I think he's petty?
Yes.
The beat play, Kanye mumbled through the entire thing.
And you could see him smiling on this shit.
Like, I don't know this song.
Yeah.
I mean, I was surprised that a lot of the old records he did that he knew as many of the lyrics that
he still, still performed.
Because I was like, there's no way he remembers this song.
Even though it's your work.
he hasn't performed a lot of those records in a while do you think Kanye coming back out dressed
in a Canadian tuxedo to save the Canadian from the show was irony or just coincidence
I think it was ironed it think it was cold in there and he had his arms out at first then he realized
that was a bad move let me go put a jacket on the merch was terrible free Larry Hoover yes
absolutely I agree with that but the merch was the it just felt like it was just no thought
I get it.
It's like,
it's just like, come on, man.
It just showed the halfway shit
that Drake just doing that set
and then like his hoodie didn't even say free Hoover.
It was like, yo, just free the guys, bro.
Free them.
Yeah, like, I get it, man.
But come on, man.
That just was not like, I didn't like that.
I thought that they had enough time.
Well, Kanye had enough time
to come up with something better than that.
Tell me if I'm being a hater.
I'm trying to understand.
I'm not trying to hate.
If these charities,
shows or awareness shows don't draw the money that's going to go to the cause.
What is the point?
Like, do you really think fucking Biden and Kamala Harris were in the White House just watching
Kanye up there like, damn, I didn't even think about Hoover like this?
Like, we got to look into his case.
I think it's important, but is much happening with it.
I hope so.
I do too, but I just don't know.
That's something that I saw people saying, like, okay, so how long, how much longer do we have
wait to see if enough awareness was brought to this, if enough money was raised for whatever,
if it's legal fees, if it's whatever. Like, you know what I'm saying? Like, how long do we have to wait?
Do we know that? I don't know that. I don't know that all that ticket money went to anything.
We don't know that. We won't know that. That's not our business. We'll never know that.
But we just have to wait and see what comes of this. Like what happens now that this is over.
Was it just like you said, was it just raising awareness about Larry Hoover in this case?
Was it something to help out legally, you know, as far as help the family? Things like
like that. Like, we know things that we don't know because we're not involved in the situation.
But for sure. We hope that it raised awareness and we hope that, you know, it helps to free Larry Hoover.
But we got to wait and see.
I mean, listen, we've seen Kanye and Kim free people. So I'm not going to say that that's not something that they know how to do and not succeeded in.
I just don't understand these sometimes because money, unfortunately, really makes shit move.
And I feel like we're not, I'm not saying this specifically about Kanye. This whole,
celebrity awareness shit is like a racket. It's not like watching during COVID, all those
celebrities sing that song about COVID. It was like, you don't think people are aware of COVID
right now. Thank you, celebrity from your million dollar home looked in your iPhone and sang one
part of fucking joyful, joyful. I don't think a lot of Kanye and Drake fans knew who Larry Hoover
was. That's probably true. You know who Larry Hoover is. I'm sure they do now as a result of the show.
And I think that that's more so it is about raising awareness about the situation in the case.
My only thing is now, I don't think, do we get a Kanye Drake tour?
Because a lot of people watched it.
It's kind of like we saw it.
That feels like a lot from both sides.
For the two of them to agree to that, that's going to take a lot of behind the scenes business, a lot of creative, a lot of ego, even if they're still friends.
I mean, what creative is there?
what venues you use
obviously safety laws now
that that would be a very difficult thing to pull off
very difficult
I don't think it's difficult for them to pull it off
I think they pulled this off
and this was a
they only agreed to it what three weeks ago
I mean I think of course
Drake does a CLB tour it's going to sell out every arena
to do a week and we know that already
but as far as impact goes
and same with the Donda show
we saw that already
it would be more
impactful with those two albums if they were together.
Yeah.
It would be more of a moment.
It would matter more.
I just don't know, even from a money perspective,
I know he's a billionaire and a multi, multi, multi-millionaire.
That shit still matters to a lot of people on their staff and everything that is around them,
not just so much Drake and Kanye, where those tours feed a lot of fucking people.
Yeah.
And if you do the two of them, unless you raise that ticket price to some shit that the average person can't afford,
you may be cutting your whole team's money in half
because if it's just a CLB tour
I could feed my entire team
based off of what we know we make
when we go out
you put that with Kanye and Drake
and then visually everything's
on the cost more
so it's a whole different thing
yeah so you know
for the family
I don't know if that makes the most sense
I think it'd be cool to do some spot dates
like just do MetLife
just do some shit like that
that could be really cool
but a whole tour from them
that's going to take a lot to move around
I mean, besides that, the more important thing, again, is, you know, raising awareness for Larry Hoover in this case, you know, and I hope that the money is spent in Chicago, building after-school programs, fixing the community in honor of Larry Hoover and his family.
For sure.
Like, that's something that I think I would want to see from this.
Like, you know, take that money and just put it all into the city of Chicago and build up the city and give kids an opportunity and outlets to music or whatever it is.
creatively, just build a bunch of, which I'm sure they're going to do.
I think they've been doing it.
Yeah, just build a bunch of, you know, different outlets and places where kids can go
and just express themselves creatively.
So, I mean, hopefully, you know, that does happen.
And if that does, then this show was more than a success.
I mean, on a lighter, funnier side, I am happy to see middle-aged white parents scared
again because you know their kids watch that show and say,
Mom, I get the free Larry Hoover merch and their parents went on to buy it.
And naturally his parents were Google
Who Larry Hoover is?
Oh, wait, what band is this?
He did what?
He's where?
Right, right.
Yeah, that's all I'm again, man.
The merch just wasn't, and I was looking forward to the merch.
And then when we got the images of it, I was just like, all right, this just seems like
this took two minutes to think about and they just put it on the site.
Were you expecting mention of Virgil during the show or something?
I thought some type of, yeah, visually, some type of tribute or something.
would have happened, but it didn't.
You know, again, I don't know if it was something that couldn't be done visually.
You know, I'm pretty sure they didn't want to botch it and rush it and make it look sloppy.
I know they wanted to honor Virgil the right way.
So maybe that's just what it was.
It just wasn't enough time to do something that they wanted to do.
And maybe have something already in the works where, like I was saying, I thought they jumped
the gun with this show in their makeup with Virgil too.
Yeah.
Maybe it's better not to jump the gun and just do something to do it.
Yeah.
Let's do a proper shit that involves everyone, not just Cany and Drake.
So let's hope that was it.
And I'm not going to tell people out of grief.
If they weren't ready to do something for Virgil, listen, bro, I get it.
I mean, two of the biggest stars, like overall, I was a little underwhelmed.
You know, I'll be honest, visually it was amazing.
It looked, it was one of the most beautiful sets that I've seen.
Like, I just thought that that was just super fly, you know, the way it had it looking like a spaceship or the moon or whatever you want to call it.
That shit was dope.
lights and, you know, that shit was just fire. I wasn't expecting that. I honestly was expecting
like something fly because it's Kanye creatively, but that definitely was something that was over
the top. Yeah. That was dope. No, I feel that. I guess to keep staying within, within concerts,
Travis Scott sat down with your man's. I didn't see it. I saw it. What'd you think? I didn't make it
all the way through. I'll be honest with you. I sat for as much as it as I could. I didn't see it. I didn't
mainly for this podcast
I don't really know where to begin on it
I'm not going to tell anyone
what their true intentions are
back to the grieving thing
Travis Scott could very well be grieving
about what happened
Which I'm sure you is
Just that sometimes interviews
It's the catch 22
Where I feel
I feel celebrities on them
in this capacity
Not even celebrities
People that just end up in some shit
Everyone is forcing you to talk
And then when you talk
They say why the fuck did you just talk
Yeah
So there's really no winning in that way.
I don't know why he's talking, honestly.
I wouldn't, if I'm Travis, I'm not talking to anybody right now.
Yes, we would have released a statement after the, you know, the tragedy happened.
He did, which didn't go over well.
Yeah, but I'm not sitting down doing any interviews right now.
Well, he did the one that he could control.
What did you learn from?
Well, Charlemagne asked the right questions.
I'm not going to say he didn't.
But we know that the Jenner and Kardashian family is very comfortable with Charlemagne sitting
with their family members and asking questions in RT living rooms.
That was also, like, it visually, it looked fucking amazing.
And I was like, why does this look so amazing for the topic we're talking about?
Like, bro, it didn't need to be this trendy and ill.
Like, the fact that you're sitting in this magnificent living room with like a sliver of the
curtain showing the greatest forest I've ever seen in my life.
I'm just not while grieving my loved one
like damn is this in 4K
like it just wasn't
I get it it's supposed to look ill
Travis wants everything to look good
Charlemagne cares about how his interviews look
it just it felt like the Kanye interview again
but we're not talking about anything
uplifting
and Travis I could tell was nervous
he said you know
I'm not even exaggerating maybe 1500 times
and I know that's because he
was nervous, but literally after everything's like, you know, and we're like, nah, don't know.
That's why we wanted to talk to you.
He just kept saying like, no, no, no, no, that's why you're here.
Because we don't know, sir.
And I know he did it because we repeat things.
It's nervous.
It's not, you don't want to say the wrong thing.
Again, I didn't see it.
I didn't watch the interview, but I just, I don't understand why Travis is even doing this.
I wouldn't, there's no need to sit down and do an interview with anybody if I'm Travis.
Well, why I feel like that family trust Charlemagne, he asked the right questions in the shit that people wanted to know.
But he did it in a very fucking, like, fatherly way.
Like, he would say something before he got to the question.
Yeah.
Like, he would be like, listen, Travis, I know you're a man of God.
How do you feel about them saying you had demonic images?
And I'm like, Charlemagne, you do not know that he's a man of God.
How much time do you think of Travis?
We all know Travis is a man of God.
I'm like, do we?
Yeah, I don't know that.
He could be.
I just didn't know we all knew that.
Not saying he's not.
I just don't know.
Like in the beginning of the interview,
Sraman's like, just by sitting next to you, I can feel how much your agreement right now.
And I'm like, you've been there for 30 seconds.
That's just like a thing that people that are conducting interviews do, though.
Oh, for sure.
Especially Travis with Shaliman.
Shaliman is going to try to make Travis comfortable.
He doesn't want to seem like he's grilling him.
I'm sure there were things that Travis said.
We're not going to talk about and I'm not going to answer, but you know, before he gave him all of that.
He asked, he didn't hold him accountable or not not hold him accountable.
He asked the questions and then Travis answered and then they moved on.
There was no follow-up to, and again, from Charlemagne's point of view or Travis's team's point of view or even the family's point of view,
what is an interview of Charlemagne grilling Travis Scott about a tragedy really going to solve?
So I don't want to say it was pointless.
I guess people were demanding to hear from Travis Scott.
I don't know if the families were because that's all that really fucking matters.
And listen, I feel for Travis Scott and we came on here and defended him to some degree.
I just don't think, because even some of the questions were about like Travis's mental health and how he feels about the thing, which cool.
That's just not what I think is the number one thing right now.
I think the people that lost lives.
Well, that's why I don't understand why he would do interviews because you almost really, is this?
almost really nothing you can say.
Like everything you say somebody's going to find something wrong with it.
You could say that could have been the perfect interview.
He could have answered everything perfectly, said everything correct.
The families would still, the friends of the victims would still fill away about the interview.
And that's my point.
It's kind of like why even do it?
Well, let's put ourselves in that position because I don't want to talk.
I've never been in this position before.
What would your decision have been?
Because people are demanding, especially after you put out a statement that nobody like and to a lot of people,
came off in sensitive and that you didn't care. And people are demanding you show your face
and take some accountability for this. But then also, you know the, no matter what you say,
it's not going to be the right accountability or people on the internet that are they going to be
like, well, that came off in genuine. Meanwhile, they have no idea how Travis Scott ever speaks
in his entire life. So that could be him being genuine. We don't know. Right.
What decision you make? I wouldn't do no interviews. Okay. I would not do it. What would be the strategy
then to still please.
And on top of that, you have lawsuits out the ass
where if you say the wrong thing, it can be used in court.
Do you put out another statement?
Because then you look crazier again.
Like, yeah, that other statement, my bad.
This is what I'm saying.
So it's kind of like you almost, you have to deal with things.
I would deal with things, honestly, I would be more in touch with the families.
I would want my lawyers or whoever to deal directly one-on-one with the families.
Which I believe.
So that they know and understand, like,
the public is going to always have their opinion.
But it would be important for me if I was Travis that the families know exactly how
sorry I am that this happened and how unfortunate situation was and how terrible I feel about it.
It would be more direct than one-on-one with the families.
It wouldn't be interviews or, you know, IG posts or stories and shit.
It wouldn't be none of that.
It would be directly behind the scenes, have my lawyers or whoever get me in direct contact
with the families so that there's a line of communication so that they understand like,
this is killing me. This hurts me that this happened. You know what I mean?
But that's what's so fucking selfish just about the internet and fans and the world.
It's like at the end of the day, yes, the number one thing should be Travis Scott speaking to the people that lost children.
The internet feels entitled like, I need Travis to say something about this because I'm such a good person that would never let that happen even though I've never thrown a festival in my entire life or ever done anything in my entire life.
I need Travis to tell me that he's sorry
that he takes accountability.
Yeah.
And that's why you can't,
dog.
That's why doing stuff,
the interviews like this to me is pointless
because it's almost like,
you know,
for what?
What is it changing?
What is it helping?
What is it,
no matter what I say,
somebody's going to find a fault
and anything that I sit here and say today.
It's just odd that to me
that people feel owed to situations.
They literally have nothing to do.
You can comment on it,
empathize with it,
feel bad,
be like,
damn, I hope he makes it right with the families.
I hope there's some type of justice in this tragedy.
But to feel like your old, like, no, Travis needs to sit down and he needs to tell me what
the fuck happened.
Yeah, he needs to explain it.
Doug.
You weren't even there.
Like, you weren't even at the festival.
He wasn't even at the festival.
Yeah.
But again, that's why you can't, to me, you shouldn't do that.
Yeah.
I mean, I'll save everyone.
I'm going to watch it, though, just because I want to, you know, just see it and just get more
information on what he spoke about.
But, I mean, I can save you an hour.
I can save you an hour. He basically said security and safety precautions need to be adjusted in festivals moving forward. He didn't really have an answer to his accountability on it or him to blame. And he feels bad. That's really all it was. Okay. For an hour. And I'm not saying that in a negative. Just what it was. It was that in multiple ways, one hour. Every single question. So, yes, he feels bad. Not really sure if any, if.
if he takes the blame for it because obviously he's in a lawsuit.
So even if he does take the blame for it and in his head is like, yeah, that was my fault.
He's in a lawsuit for a billion dollars.
I mean, either way, it's unfortunate.
And again, you know, to the families and the victims, prayers, condolences.
It's a tragedy.
Either way you look at it, it's an event that shouldn't have happened.
But when do we put the time on it?
I always ask this.
If somebody's truly sorry about something and has changed behavior,
At what point are they forgiven to move on to work stuff?
Because he was just taking off Coachella, which is in April.
At what point do we finally go, okay, enough is enough.
We moved on to the next tragedy.
We feel comfortable with Travis Scott performing.
I don't know.
I mean, unfortunately, it would take for something else maybe tragic to happen
because that's just how society is, like once another tragedy,
A more current tragedy happens.
People forget about the previous one.
Yeah.
So it would probably be something like that.
Unfortunately, that's just how this society is.
What's the new tragedy?
What's the new thing we're upset about?
What's the new thing we have an opinion about?
Who's the new person we're canceling?
What did Boosie tweet today?
Exactly.
You know what I mean?
Like, what's the new thing we're canceling?
What's the new thing we're outraged about?
Like, it's going to take a couple of those.
And again, you know, the families are, they're going to agree forever for that.
losing a load. You never get over that. Just, you know, time just helps you deal with it more. But,
you know, it's unfortunate, man. And like I said, even when we said on, hey, I don't, I don't put
blame on Travis. I understand how people are blaming him. But, you know, again, you got to
change things at these festivals. You got to make it, again, having a bunch of kids just in
the field, things can happen. Things get dangerous.
50,000 people. That's a lot of people to just be out in the field.
I would say on a good note, and I hope I'm not wrong here, I heard absolutely nothing about rolling
loud at all this weekend and that warms my heart.
Yeah.
I didn't hear a single word about it.
Not one thing.
Good, bad, indifferent.
Nothing at all.
And I was like, thank fucking God.
I mean, they had a, I've seen some of the performances online, but nothing negative as far as
the crowd and what happened and things like that.
Because Roaring Loud has had a history of some shit.
Of Roaming Loud.
Yeah.
It's loud.
It's loud.
Very loud.
It's very loud in there.
So I was happy, especially in a city like Los Angeles, because we know the
reputation of Rolling Loud as far as other violence, not related to crowd control, just more
backstage control. So I was happy on that end. Well, you know the security is up at all of these
festivals now. For sure. Yeah. You know that. For sure. But especially Rolling Loud being a younger
demographic too and young people not knowing how to behave, especially when it comes to
taking drugs. Not caring about authority. Yeah. Yeah, I was happy about that and just them being in L.A.
and violence that happens in Los Angeles.
Well, that's good.
But a purge was happening.
Can someone give me a background of this?
I keep seeing this headline that in Los Angeles
there's a purge, don't come.
And I can't tell if that's like a fake headline or it's real.
So I believe, I'm not sure maybe Demaris could get,
I'm not sure if it was the chief of police that made a statement or whoever he was.
And he was saying basically don't come to L.A.
It's dangerous.
We can't guarantee your safety.
Is Big U, the chief of police now?
Yeah, you might as well be.
Which I thought was just like stupid for whoever that guy was.
A Los Angeles Police Department detective is warning people not to come to the city as incidents of smash and grab and follow home robberies have risen in the area recently.
That was really irresponsible of him to compare him.
He was just a detective.
Yeah, he was a detective.
He's not even like the chief.
He's just some cop.
He was directing traffic like, you.
Yeah.
I thought he was the supervisor.
But they were being honest.
They basically said we don't think that we can keep you safe.
right now.
All right.
Well, if you feel like you can't keep me safe right now,
give me some of my tax dollars back.
Yeah, I'm about to say it.
I want my tax dollars to roll over.
I don't even understand why.
He's just a detective.
He's not the chief of police, nothing.
No.
There's also a director of the Los Angeles
Police Protective League who also said that.
That's who said we can't keep you safe right now.
Like, don't come visit.
We can't keep you safe.
See, they're not.
It's like, did he get fired?
They're not watching enough Dale.
That was very irresponsible.
They got to tune in the deal more.
They're not following.
on Dale's account.
We'll have it for him soon.
Yeah.
They got to see, you got to know how to get a nigga up off you.
See, they're not watching.
They're laughing.
They're laughing.
Yeah, you got to send Dale out there.
He'd clean all that shit up in 10 minutes.
Guarantee.
Imagine Dale rolling around the 60s, like, just talking to cops.
You know, come in.
Let me show you something.
Yeah.
You got to send Dale out there.
Dale go out there, clean all that shit up 10 minutes.
Don't worry about it.
Let Dale link with Big U.
They both get in the Hummer.
Clean that shit right up.
The city of the city.
The city of L.A.
will be cleaning in this everment.
Guarantee.
big you and Dale clean up the streets of LA, man.
That might be part two to what we have to do.
Yeah, sit with Big You.
But you got to talk to Big You.
I'm cool.
I talk to Big You could do that.
Why are you going to talk to Big You?
I'll talk to the cops.
You wouldn't talk to the cops.
You talked to the cops.
The white man would talk to the police.
Yeah.
Send Dale out there.
Let them link with Big You, man.
Let's get L.A. street safe, man, so people can enjoy themselves again.
But that cop is a fucking idiot to say that on the news.
I can't guarantee you a city.
You're just a detective.
You come after the violence is committed.
That's what detectives do.
They come after the crime and they try to figure out what happened.
A detective has never protected you once.
Not at all.
It's like the crime has happened already once the detective shows up.
I've seen law and order.
They always find the body.
Exactly.
They never stop the body.
They never stop the body from happening.
Ever.
All they do is get in the courtroom like, we need to stop this.
Exactly.
Come on, man.
This is supposed to be what you're supposed to be doing.
Stop trying to detect shit in the parking garage.
I thought that was the supervisor.
the chief of police. That's crazy that that was just a detective that said that.
Don't they have an HR department at this point? LAPD.
We can get into a lot of departments that the LAPD has or doesn't have.
You figured they would put money into marketing in PR after a few incidents.
I mean, no.
No. Somebody's getting rich. They live in the hills. Trust me. A lot of those cops, great homes.
Listen, Mark Furman came and they were just like, eh. It'll work itself out.
But was that their mission statement? Like, yo.
It'll work itself out.
come to LA
it'll work yourself out
if you don't want your detective
all up in the press
all up in your business
all up at the dope spot
come to LAPD
oh my god man
Jesus Christ
did you guys see Kanye's freestyle
at Rolling Loud
no future brought him out right
he freestyled at Rolling Loud
he had the same boots on though right
he didn't even change
no Kanye really turned into one of those billionaires
yeah that's what's his name
Steve Jobs
they wear the same shit all the time
time, yeah. Yay is kind of on that wave now. Once you got to, once you, once people know how much
money you're worth, you could wear the same shit every day. Nobody cares. That's true.
Because at that point, you're just, you're like a figure. You're like a cartoon character. Like,
you never seen Bugs Bunny change his outfit. No. You know what I mean? So it's kind of like,
you never seen Ronald McDonald change his outfit. And I feel like the genius that it takes to be a
billionaire. If you had to decide what you wanted to wear every day, you wouldn't leave the
house till 5 p.m. Yeah. Your brain would just go into a whole mode.
that you wouldn't be productive though.
At that point, I'm more for Billy.
I've had these jeans on for a month, man.
Yes.
If you smell anything, that's me.
Yeah, I went back to that.
We can get off Kanye in second.
I went back to that Andre 3000,
Life of the Party Kanye record.
And they put it out on title with the new one.
It's edited, it's got beeps in it,
so I don't like it.
I like the rip.
So I listened to the rip again.
And Andre had explained that Kanye
wouldn't put three stacks verse out
because he was cursing.
Kanye's verse on the
original, he curses about 10 times.
Kanye curses more than Andre 2000 on this song.
Yeah.
If you tell me, uh, bro, you cursed, I can't put it out.
Do you listen to your three verses?
That's why a lot of that shit is like, even on his set, he's like secular music.
And we go down the track list, it's like, have you heard the lyrics in these records?
Well, this, I'm trying to tell you the beauty of Christianity being a Catholic mold.
You can do whatever the fuck you want.
Just say, yo, yo, my bad God.
Yeah.
I was wilding.
I get it.
Like, I was wilding.
That's the, that's the beauty in it.
I do a few hell and stuff.
Exactly.
going in and confessing to somebody behind the screen.
It's easy.
I tried that.
Who's also sinning?
Yeah.
With children.
You tried that.
Yeah, behind a screen door.
No.
Oh.
No.
Like, my, mine's a little different.
Like, I did some shit and went to, like, my uncle's house in the South.
I was fucking up in the summer one time.
Wait, hold on.
Got some trouble.
You went.
It wasn't a real screen.
It was a screen door, not a screen door.
Listen, I know family members.
I'm aware.
I've dealt with some of that.
Family members can be a little handsy when you're a kid.
No, is that where you're...
No, no, no.
No, listen, I'm here for you, well.
Never, never.
Wait, all right, so I'm joking now.
But when did you have to go down south?
No, I used to go down south in the summer.
Okay.
You know, in the south they have screen doors to keep the flies out and stuff like that.
So I came back later than I was supposed to, I came back to the house.
I feel like this is every black movie ever.
Yeah, exactly.
It's part of the culture.
And the screen.
Screen hood has to go.
Screen doors locked.
So I'm yelling through the screen door like, like, you?
Like, you don't want to open to unlock the screen?
uncle was like, you know what time of this?
He's talking, I can see him.
He's on the couch.
Okay.
He's like, nah, you see what time of this?
So I'm like, I saw I'm just, me and the crickets out here.
Yeah.
Snakes and let him see what, sure of it.
Yeah, you wish you would have had them Kanye fly fishing boots at that time, I bet.
And that was really scary for me because I'm from New York.
We're from the city.
We used to cars, buildings, noise.
When you're in the deep south at night, it's quiet.
And it's like no lights on the road.
Only lights on the road are the cars.
It's a different type of scary.
Yeah.
It's pretty much the white version of media
When they go to the hood, they think everything
They're gonna get robbed right away
It don't really be the case.
That's, I feel like people in the city
Have only seen horror movies with dirt roads
That you're gonna get murdered right away.
It's crazy.
No, the media works both ways.
I go to the South and like, oh, there's a thousand serial killers
on this dirt road for sure.
Meanwhile, like, no, it's not just serial killers, just chilling.
It's like just waiting for the streetlights to go off
To get me.
Exactly.
Oh, do you think you were cured?
Yeah, I never made it back to the house later again.
So yeah, I was cured.
Well, do you think, like, did you go back up north, like, as a new man, like, oh, I'm
gonna conquer the podcast world?
I think that was the last time.
Like, this happened last summer or?
No.
Hell no.
I was, I was, real young.
I think that was the last time I told my mom I was going down south foot or something.
I'm never doing that again.
A lot of bug bites.
It was just, you get to an age where you're like, why am I here?
Why am I doing this?
Why am I spending my summer like this?
Because your mom wants to get a fucking break from your ass.
That's why.
Yeah, once you get older, you know.
do you know what it was about?
Absolutely.
I get it.
Yeah, but it's just like I was getting to that age where it was kind of like I was just maybe
right before I went to high school.
So it was kind of like, I'm like, mom, not doing that.
Yeah.
I think parents get in that mold once you start going to school that they realize you're
not around all the time, which they love.
And then summertime come and it's like, wait.
Yeah.
You're here all day.
That's where summer camp was invented.
You think summer camp is for us to like, oh, my God, we could go out in the suburbs and swim.
Like, no, no, no.
That's just so your parents can get some piece of fucking.
They want to get you out the house for like three weeks at a time.
Yeah.
Summer camp is just a productive way to abandon your children and not take responsibility to parent.
And so is basketball camp.
Oh, for sure.
A lot of your kids are not going to make it.
I just want to put that out there.
I did overnight basketball camp 10 minutes from my house.
He's right down the street.
Right down the block.
That's like when the girls used to move off your block and you would think you would never see her again.
She just moved to Brooklyn.
Say bus stop.
She just moved to Brooklyn.
But she was the kid.
kid crying like I'm never going to see this girl.
She lives 20 minutes away
from you. It's a promise you can see this girl again.
Oh, man, I miss summer camp.
You should have adult summer camps. They do have them. They do have them.
No, they do not.
Yes, they do. And they're really fun.
They look at, I've never done. A delt summer camps? This is a thing?
And it's like regular summer camp.
How can we never did adult summer camp be?
I mean, I didn't think you'd want to go to adult summer camp with me. I
know how to pose that question to you.
Fam, let's do adult summer camp. Would you reply to my text if I said,
Hey, bro, you want to go upstate to adult summer camp?
I'll probably tell you get the.
fuck off my phone. Exactly. I'm trying to save myself
for the hurt. Yeah, but it's a reply. I didn't know
that it was a real thing. Adult summer camp.
It's, it's, I just thought adults go to like
Turks. Bro, it's, it's summer camp
with Rose. It's really old.
That's all this. It's just add some wine to
whatever you get in summer. After the activity's over?
It's archery and alcohol.
Archery. We should do that.
I would love to do that. I'm still like
that little kid shit. I love, I'll go
to Sky Zone and still pretend like
I'm dunking like Vince Carter. I enjoy that type
shit. Yeah, no, I would definitely do. Adults summer camp sounds lit. I just did go cards in Jersey City.
Yeah. I have fun at that type of stuff. It makes me feel better.
Adult summer care, let's do that. Let's set that up. I'm doing it for the whole team.
Yeah, hell yeah. Kyle, you're going to record?
Yeah, we should do that. Adult summer camp is fun.
Kyle going to win the dance contest.
For sure. Naniaka out danced Carl. I just want y'all to know that right now.
Did you ever go to summer camp that had girls at it, too? Yeah.
I mean, I was, we were young.
I know, but like, making out was like...
Well, that was a shit.
You might as well have had a threesome at Summer Camp when...
You kiss him?
Yeah.
And, yo, I like kind of touched a titty a little bit.
Oh, yeah.
The first time you touched that nipple and filled that nipple hard?
And Maju.
She was young.
She had no titties.
Yeah, no.
But it just wasn't my bare chest, so it felt good.
See, I know when I have, I know I'm going to have daughters, man.
Because you're a piece of shit.
Yeah.
My karma?
Oh, my God.
I want, I'm one of those, I want daughters.
I'm one of those guys that wants daughters.
I want a son, but
But you want daughters
I do. Why?
Because I think you like pain.
You want to feel, you want to cry
I know I've watched
She's dating that black man
You know Rory has a daughter
She'll be black.
She's going to date a black man
Why do you say that to Maris?
Oh, you know you love that chocolate
That cinnamon
You know you love chocolate cinnamon
Or am I
Am I one of those
Those white guys that
dates black girls for their whole life
only fucks black girls
and when it's Tom
I will literally cancel you
with a line there and blue eyes
I'll like Rory let me
I know there's a lot of white guys
that do that shit
No listen put this on record
If you have a kid with a white woman
What if she's the one?
I'm gonna be fucking crying
bro that is the funniest shit in the world
It's like bro
It's no longer a preference
That's a fetish sir
At that point it's like
Oh you dirty dog
That's all you was doing
was just running around, dipping in chocolate,
but you kept that bloodline pure, though.
That pure Aryan bloodline.
That pure Aryan bloodline.
Yeah, that's fucking Roy Jefferson over here.
Yo, that's some funny shit.
That's sick.
That's hilarious.
But you know that's like a thing, though.
It is a thing.
That's a thing thing.
Yeah.
So, yeah, I can't.
No matter what.
And they've already accused you of that online.
You're fetishizing.
Fetitizing.
Fetishizing.
It's a hard word to say.
It's like when necessary.
day. They say that you love black
women, but I know that you really do like
black girls, though. I don't
see, someone still
hasn't really told me what fetish and preference really
the difference is. So. No, fetish
is like, it's only sexual.
Is it? Yeah.
Yes. Oh, but y'all know I'd be loving my bitches.
Yeah, yeah. I mean, I know. You know,
I got your back. It could be way more than just.
So, so fetish is usually sexual.
Yes. Fetishization meaning.
All right, well, then that dive-
Can be thought of as the act of making someone
an object of sexual desire
based on some aspect of their identity.
So, Ma has every girl he's ever slept with is a fetish?
No.
Well, they were objects of sexual desire, so I think that's-
Can you fetishize your own race?
Because I've never dated a white girl, but I fucked a white girl.
So does that mean I just fuck because she was white?
No, that would be a fetish.
She would continue.
It would be a different thing.
It would be something you would want to continually do.
Okay.
All right, well, never mind.
We'll see how this goes.
But I still want
Go see it'll work yourself out
I still want daughters
Because I've watched so many
People around me's
Demise towards their latter days of death
And their sons never took care of them
Only their daughters
Like y'all can
All these guys can say
I just want a son I want a son
I need my son carry on my legacy
All that shit
Yeah wait till you in that bed dying
Only your daughters are going to come to help you
Your son will be like he'll be all right
It's just the reverse of the way your dad treated you
I'm like now you'll be fine bro
Yeah so
So now it's my time to say
Oh you can't get out of bed
man, you'll be high. You tough.
Oh, man, that's hilarious. But yeah, so Damaris was, she was technically right.
Fetish is usually sexual.
Yeah. Okay.
Yeah. But that would be, that would be hilarious, though.
Like, if you just had, like, kids with, like, a white woman, that would be some funny shit, man.
But what type of white?
No, like that white, white.
Like, what if I had a kid with, like, Marissa Mendez?
Marissa isn't white.
Yes, she is.
Marissa?
Marissa, she's white.
Her last name is Marisa Menendezza.
Her name is Mardi Sa Mendes.
She is not white, bro.
That's my people.
Shout to Madi.
I love you.
Mardi is not a white girl.
We called her Madi.
Her name's not Madi.
Mardi is not white.
Mottie would be Spanish, if anything.
I mean, is her last name Mendes?
Her last name is Mende.
I don't know if...
Is that a stage name?
I've seen the ID, bro.
Her last name is Mendes.
I'm mad I had to bring Madi up in that way when I haven't talked about Madi in a long time.
Shout out to Madi.
I love you.
Hope everything is great.
I actually did look at your IG the other day and it looks like things are going
amazing.
But no, what if I do like the white girl version of me?
Like another redhead?
I also have to, I don't know if you guys know that genders are going to be extinct one day.
Very soon.
So like, maybe I have to do it for, I have to do it from my race.
All right, see, see, now?
What if I went with a girl that I really loved and wanted to have kids with and then just donated my sperm just to like the ginger clinic?
To save the ginger race?
Yes.
I wouldn't be mad at that.
If you're doing it for a cause bigger than yourself, Rory, I wouldn't be mad.
It's not a fetish.
It's trying to keep us going.
I wouldn't be mad.
I want to create another ginger so he can get bullied.
But are they really saying that gingers are going extinct?
Are y'all like, okay?
And you know why that is?
Because redheads don't like each other.
Like, when this was a headline of like, gingers will be extinct in the next 150 years or whatever, just because everyone's fucking everyone.
And they said that about race period.
Boy, how does that work?
Does it have to be two redheads to have a redhead baby?
No.
It doesn't.
Like my grandmother on my father's side has red hair and my mother has red hair.
So I was destined to have red hair even though my dad didn't have red hair.
Got you.
It's a gene thing.
But the more fucking we're doing, like we're erasing that gene more and more.
Because here's the thing.
Redheads are not attracted to each other.
We're very self-hating people.
We're pale.
We got to make fun of freckles.
I don't find that attractive.
It's like black people.
Because everyone told me how unattractive it was my entire life.
I think all races are self-hating.
I mean, the Nazis seem to think pretty highly of themselves.
I think they got a long rate.
I think they loved each other.
Yeah.
The British seem to...
They thought they was a eye.
Yeah.
Like, that's what I'm trying to understand.
I'm trying to get the knowledge here.
All right.
All right, so genders or redheads are going extinct because y'all, y'all don't particularly
like each other or you're not sexually attracted.
And on top of that, where the fact that people on the internet...
So you've never said another ginger that you was like, damn, she's sexy?
Very rarely.
Really?
Very, very rare.
Wow.
Yes.
They're either fucking...
And I'm saying this across.
the board, myself included them on the other side. They're either fucking gorgeous or like,
eh. Just because they're ginger. They could use some sunscreen. Oh, okay. Okay. And like, I've never
thought about it like here's the other thing too. It's not a fetish. It's only, like, have you ever
seen two pasty thighs next to each other? Doesn't look very good. Like, I don't want to see that in my
bed. Yeah, I got you. Just four pasty legs. Yeah. It's nasty. It's a lot. Yeah. And the amount of
sunscreen, that's, that's a household that, yeah. That adds up. I never thought about it that way.
And on top of that, when you're growing up, redheads don't come into their features until way later in life.
Like, redheads are ugly as fuck when we start.
And then we kind of get out of it.
Okay.
People fetishize us.
For people to say I have a fetish is offensive because how I started getting pussy was because people were saying I've never fucked a white white boy at Redhead.
Yeah.
I landed into the black woman thing.
Yeah.
They were the only girls that wanted to fuck me.
Yeah, you were like a little unicorn in the hood.
Yeah.
Everybody just wanted to ride.
I got to see what that's like.
Yeah.
Yeah, I get it.
I get it.
No, DeMaris, I'm doing the knowledge.
I understand what's happening.
Did you just go to me a carousel?
Sort of.
Yeah, like, I get it.
I could see how Rory would be like the guy in the hood
where black girls would be like,
I never had sex with a white boy.
Rory's right outside.
He's not doing nothing.
I was a easy way to lean into it too.
So, like, they didn't have to go straight to like the real white,
like frat lacrosse guy.
They could like ease into me like,
oh, he's listening to Gizi
and is wearing cool water colloquy.
alone and his clothes don't fit.
He's like an easy way.
Let me transition into this white thing before I go right for Brad on the lacrosse team.
It was an easier transition.
So when you have sex, do you ever tell a girl, take that turmeric dick?
Like, you love this turmeric dick?
You don't never say that?
I can't even pronounce that word.
Let alone when I'm fucking.
I can barely pronounce fuck when I'm fucking.
The way I say fuck, I'm like, you know, you think I can say turmeric?
I would say you have a tumor.
You got to get that off.
You got to get that off.
You got to get that off at least once, Rohraig dick.
You got to get that off.
Listen, man.
Because you're a ginger.
Why not?
I guess.
I don't even know what that means.
Take that turmeric dick, man.
Get that off.
See, because Rory can get off the shit that I can.
Obviously, I'm not a ginger.
I can never get that off.
If I say, if I tell the girl, take this turmeric dick, she'll look at me like, wait.
What are you jealous of us that we could do?
That, that you can say, yo, take this turmeric dick.
I can never get that off.
I would be getting some six shit off if I was ginger.
I'd let you know that right now.
What is, what are the lines you draw when sleeping with a white woman?
What do you mean with the lines?
There has to be lines in the sand.
Well, obviously, she can't call me a nigger.
Well, that went without saying.
That went without saying.
Yeah, like, I mean, that's like a thing.
You know, that's a thing in porn.
Like, they have, yeah, like they have like scenes with a white girl.
Your algorithms is crazy.
Yeah.
They be talking crazy.
I'll be laughing.
I didn't see that one.
I'm reality kings.
Like, yo, she called.
No, it should be because it probably is reality.
Yeah.
Like, so, see, that, that would be out.
But other than that, there's no limits.
Okay.
Uh, where, no role play that you would be against?
Yeah, I'm not going to be the, uh, I'm not going to be outside picking, uh, picking cotton.
I'm not going to be doing that.
I'm not saying from a role reversal standpoint.
Like, oh, should I have her outside picking cotton?
Yeah, like, you're, you're going to do it for the people.
Oh, yeah.
Like, this is reparations?
Yeah.
Oh, man.
Like, this is for you, Drescott.
I'm going to make sure your legacy is a little fun.
No, a white woman definitely, she definitely had sex with me only because she never had sex with a black guy.
She was like, yo, you're the first black guy.
I'm sure that happens very often.
Yeah, it happens.
But does that make you feel weird?
Huh?
Does that make you feel weird?
It makes me feel proud, Rory.
Okay.
I'm a proud black man.
I did it for Malcolm, Martin, the ones before me.
That's who I did it for.
Yeah.
Are you kidding me?
You did it for Martin.
Don't you do that shit for Malcolm.
I did it for Malcolm.
You ain't do it for Malcolm.
Yeah.
Malcolm used to be pimping them white holes.
See, I know Detroit Red's history.
See, y'all like to erase that from the history books.
I mean, we're focused on Malcolm right now.
But yeah, but there will be no Malcolm without Detroit Red.
We're focused on Beyonce, not Sasha Fis.
Yeah, but there will be no Malcolm without.
He had to, he had to.
That's a fact.
You know what I'm saying?
So we can't just throw that away.
So I know how he felt about white women.
He was in love with a white woman at one point.
Okay.
Yeah.
Allegedly.
Well, it's in the book.
He was reborn.
It's in the book. It's in the movie. I mean, that's, I've never met the man personally.
But, yeah, no, I did it for Malcolm. I did it for Martin. I get it for Al Sharpton. Yeah.
I get it. Carl, I don't even want Carl's answer to any of those questions.
Carl's just a nasty, nasty man. I don't even want to know what Carl is doing. Carl is just filthy.
And Damaris is the only woman in here, so that's not fair.
Demaris, you slept with a white guy before?
Mm-hmm. Sound like somebody honest.
Seems disappointed.
Show did. Show did. Show did turn that white boy out.
turning him out is fucking nuts
you know de maris turned that white boy out
he's possible he's still hitting her phone
he's still texting you
you open cues yo no good
no good
no good no good not right now
not a good time
coach clear
yo
edin
Jesus
that's funny
oh man
that's all staying in
no Jesus
have you ever slept with
a white woman before
yes
that was that was some
Yeah, we just got out of one.
That's where you got the COVID scare from today.
Yeah, all right, all right.
We're not doing that.
At a point.
We're not doing it.
Oh, man.
She said they just, they just tested me at J.P. Morgan.
Oh, my God.
And she probably called him Eddie.
She didn't even call him Eddie.
Oh, yeah.
She definitely calls him Eddie.
Eddie.
Or Jesus like us.
Yeah.
Eddie.
Oh, man.
That's great, man.
Yeah, man.
Does Spanish men like white women?
Yeah.
Okay.
I don't know.
Everyone loves everybody.
Yeah, I'm about to say, like, you got everybody.
probably love Jay.
I just like to.
They don't really love them.
But they're there.
But they're there.
Yes, you're right.
They are there.
He said, but they're there.
What does that mean?
Oh, my God.
This is going to get canceled.
Oh, God.
Just off with Ed and said.
Oh, yeah.
No, I'm taking all of this out of it.
No, I think that we're having.
Oh, let's get into Jewish women and really take us to the cancellation.
No, thank you.
No, I'm good.
Tummer is good for like prevent Alzheimer's and shit, right?
I believe it helps with inflammation, um, heart.
Like, I'm pretty.
pretty sure.
Yeah.
Information is the thing that I know that Timuric
who really helps with it.
Even if the dick is trash, you know,
you're preventing your chances of Alzheimer's.
Yeah.
So, yeah, that's there.
Have y'all been keeping up with the latest meme
trend of love languages?
No.
No.
This one has had to be furious in my house with no furniture,
just to put things in context.
Okay.
The one that's been going the most viral is
I booked us a flight in quotations and then dash my love language.
What is your work language?
The entitlement in love languages now is the craziest thing on earth to me.
How is your love language?
How do you think that you're so good at loving that you could go straight to the top of
I booked us a flight?
And that's your love language?
Who, again, because I feel like we kind of had this talk.
You have to know where you're booking the flight to.
You can't take every girl to...
That's not what I'm talking about.
You just don't want to general.
I'm talking about for you to run straight to the top of love languages.
Like, you skipped every step of asking if you're okay.
What can I do for you today?
Oh, well, you're trying to make...
Like now all of a sudden, you think your book of flight love...
What is your...
Like, what have you done for my love language?
Well, you know that this generation and this time that we're in is very superficial.
It's very take and take.
It's not even give and take.
It's take and take.
To me, women on the internet's love language looks like
that seven-year-old throwing a fucking temper tantrum in the middle of Toys R Us because they think they deserve every toy in the entire store, yet have not contributed anything to the family except for just their existence.
No, women's love languages are whatever love language is their favorite celebrity that they're following.
Whatever Drea is doing that day?
Yeah.
Dre is on the beach.
He's about a pool.
Tray is at home.
These pictures were taken three months ago.
But I just want to know like where the audacity comes of you just think I just show up and like I deserve.
My love language can now be a flight.
Yeah.
But Rory, just to do a call back to two episodes ago, you said that, quote, I like flights.
So I take bitches on flights.
This is what you said.
Did he say that?
He did say that, did he?
He did say that?
What is just a flight?
It's no big deal.
I like trips.
Huh?
I like trips
was the actually direct quote.
Flying them to Jersey City
is not a love language.
That's number one.
Hey, putting somebody on a flight to Jersey
straight to EWR, economy.
Ooh, that's a love language right there.
That's a nasty flight.
Jesus Christ, that's a nasty flight.
Have you ever seen the Meadowlands, Ma?
As soon as you land,
the penitentiary is right there.
It's right across the street.
You want to put your toes in the swamp?
Bro, put niggas in the penitentiary
right across from my airport is so disrespectful.
I mean, it's a lot of airports.
Like, them niggas are sitting there just watching flights take off every day.
They watch a metaphor go over the head every day.
That's so fucked up, man.
I think about that every time I got to fly to Newark.
I'm like, this is so fucked up.
Which, LaGuardia, the end of the runway is Rikers.
Really?
Oh, you're right.
Yeah, absolutely right.
Rikers is right there.
Yeah.
That's on purpose.
That's on purpose.
Whoever's building these prisons, they're doing that on purpose.
They're like, yeah, we want you.
we want y'all niggas to see people being free.
Because nothing says free like flights taken off and landed.
And then the more audacity that I have to see the word spirit.
Yeah.
Fly over me.
You think my spirits is high right now because they're not.
And it's yellow.
I can't miss it.
Oh my God, man.
That's funny as fuck.
No, listen, to your point of me saying I put chicks on flights,
they are not demanding or asking me and saying that is their love language.
It's women that just come out as if.
everyone deserves the highest thing ever when you're not providing much at all.
Please tell me, when you post these, please tell me what you're good at.
If I'm booking a flight because your love language is that and I'm doing that, what have you ever
offered?
Right.
Demaris, let me ask you something since you're the only woman in the room.
I'm so tired.
I'm hired another woman.
Listen, no, no.
Sometimes we just fall into these, I just need a woman's.
If a guy was to book a vacation, right?
Say y'all never took it.
This is your first vacation together.
Yeah, I hooked up a couple of times.
You know what I mean?
Like nothing real too deep.
But he's like, yo, want to take a trip for the weekend.
Let's go somewhere.
If you go on this trip with this guy,
are you expecting him to use protection on vacation?
Like when you have sex?
No, I'm not answering that.
Why?
Because you're the only one of these condoms.
We've been through this a million times.
No, I'm just saying.
No, but if I take a woman on a vacation,
condoms aren't in my bag.
Like, this is this is.
She can't get pregnant at international waters.
No, this is Royal Island.
You ain't know that?
Raw Island.
for a second
Is that next to
Right down the block
It's right down the street
Yeah
Would you?
Mall
Would you be expecting
To use protection
On this
On this trip
Well her love language
Is not positive
Because you know you want to have
Sex in a pool
Like if he has a private
If it's a villa
I'm not having sex in a pool
Any bitch that let you fuck her
Not in the water
But like you're on the edge of the pool
Like outside of the water
And like you know
He might be on the steps
Busting that thing open for you
No
Ma
All right never want
She's HR too, you know that, right?
Do you talk to your therapist about this, about the things that you asked me?
I haven't, I think I found one.
I haven't had a session with her yet, but I think I found one.
But I would, yeah.
You would talk to her about this.
Yeah.
I would be like, listen, I'm about to take a trip with this young lady.
We've only used protection, but I don't plan on using protection on this vacation.
What do you think?
That's what you want to ask your therapist.
Yeah.
That's the first question.
Not the first.
No.
I just scared.
The second.
No, but I'm just saying if a trip is coming up and I have a session with my therapist, I would bring it up.
You should ask your doctor.
I don't think you should ask your.
She's a doctor.
Oh, your clinical doctor.
Just let me know when you're ready to book this trip because you ask, this isn't the first time I think you've asked about this.
I think we've asked about this in pre-pro too.
So just let me know when you want me to book the trip for you and the girl that you want to take on vacation.
All right.
December 27th works for me.
Add it to the calendar.
Add it to the calendar.
Fuck it.
Whatever.
All right, Damaris.
Do love languages have to match?
Yeah, because what if I'm Spanish?
That too.
I speak Spanish love language.
All right, I'm fucking with you.
My language.
My language will love language.
What if my love language is just, I would just like to be respected, and I would just like you to be a good listener and someone that I can rely on.
That's my love language.
No.
Words of affirmation are my love language.
Words of affirmation means people, you like people telling you that they love you,
and that you're great and all of these things.
So say that's my love language, right?
Okay.
And then her love language is the meme,
yo, I booked us a trip or traveling.
You do know that the meme of I booked us a trip.
The love language isn't the gift of the trip.
The love language is the act of the service
that you planned something.
You do know that, right?
Yes.
Well, I knew that.
But we were having fun to marriage.
Thanks for stepping on the joke.
I'm looking.
No worries that ass.
Do you have to be able to afford your own love language?
Because you can't go on a relationship.
until you love yourself, right?
That's a fact.
You have to love yourself.
He's spitting.
You have to love yourself or someone else cannot love you until you know how to love yourself.
So if your love language is traveling and your bum ass can't buy a ticket for yourself to go travel,
I am not part of your love language.
I don't speak that language.
I am your trick language.
Yeah.
Oh, women love a good trick.
You know that.
Duh.
Ooh.
Women love nothing more than a trick except the new trick.
Oh, yeah.
The one that don't know, they old tricks?
The new trick.
Oh, God, they love the new trick.
The one that don't know that they don't know that they don't know that they
trick yet.
Ooh,
y'all be spinning
them niggas like tops,
boy.
You gotta know
you're gonna be
you're gonna be
you're gonna
when you can trick.
Some niggas
don't know.
That's not true.
They just find with it.
No, take it from me.
That's all they know
how to offer and they feel good
about that.
No, take it from me.
Some dudes do not know
when they're the trick.
They don't,
they do not know.
I've seen it.
What they think
that a boyfriend?
They think that the girl
really likes them.
You can really like
your trick, Ma.
See, I agree.
Oh, my God.
No, you don't like your trick.
You like what your trick is doing for you.
You don't like him.
What if he tricks in thousands?
Any human being, any human interaction you come across, you will always be able to say,
I like what this person does for me.
This person makes me, whether this person is fucking me well or this person makes me smile
or this person makes me smarter or this person puts me in a position to get money.
You always like people for what they do for you.
Actually liking people for who they are.
It's a facade.
That happens what once every lifetime, if you're lucky.
It's a facade.
It's not true.
their parents. People like you for who you are. I like you for who you are. Mahl, if I had a list
of all the things I do for you. And if I didn't do them, how much you wouldn't like me?
I still like you for who you are, DeMaris. Yeah, okay. If you were, if you were, I'm saying, if you weren't
if you were in disposable. No, no, no, no. First of all you're not. Stop doing.
to see if he keeps paying. No, listen, you're not. I'm about to say, this is what I'm about to say.
If you were to stop doing these things, I would still, I would still love you as a person in the
appreciate you. Okay. Would I still have a job? Yeah. Oh, I, I hope you still have a job.
But I would still, I would love you like and wish you luck on your next endeavor. Okay.
Yeah. That's all, right? That's not loving somebody. No. Yes, it is. Yo, Zio,
prayers. It is. I would still love DeMaris. What? Are you kidding? You know. You killed it.
Like, go ahead. Yeah, you killed it.
Yeah, you're doing your thing. Wherever you end up or wherever you land, it was meant to be.
I just, yeah, but no, a lot of, a lot of people, a lot of tricks don't know that their tricks though. They think,
Like, yeah, no, I got bitches.
No, you have bills.
It's okay.
It is what it is.
Honestly, if you think, same thing.
Well, but that's not true because if she's providing a service, it's transactional.
Like, I don't look at, everything is transaction.
I'm not Verizon's trick.
They provide me a service, and I give them the money they're fucking owed.
So you're in turn saying that women are cell phones?
Some are just transactional, yes.
And I think there's plenty of women.
It's the oldest job on earth, transactional women.
You know what the oldest job on earth is, right?
Hoan. Selling that ass.
So, yeah.
Selling that.
Some shit is not true.
They're selling it at a rapid rate now, Roy.
Have you seen it?
They out there giving it up.
I have not.
It's a clearance on ass.
I have not.
Loyan won't let me take any cash on it.
I don't buy ass.
That's one thing Mall doesn't do.
You bought it, though.
I don't buy ass.
You've had to pay for it though.
Ass, pussy?
You have not bought pussy, but you've had to pay for it.
Like eating dinner?
I hope that didn't go over your head.
Free the two time.
All right, man.
You saw he re-released his album.
I went in the new album shit.
I saw Cassanova.
I was like, I know this album.
I like this album.
I know this album.
He re-released?
Commissary.
I just saw it was on title.
It was on new albums.
And I was like, oh, okay.
I'll give it some more streams.
I like this album.
He just got to title.
That was my own word.
He signed a title.
Yeah, he signed a rock nation.
Yeah, he signed a rock nation.
If they didn't put that on title in 2018, you signed to them.
Shout out to Cassanova, man.
For sure.
For sure.
And I've been seeing some stuff about his case.
and a lot of objective lawyers seem to think pretty highly of it
and think it's a bullshit case as far as Cass goes
that he's just kind of got wrapped up in it
and it's all circumstantial evidence
and they're just trying to arrest as many people as possible
to see who is going to snitch.
And then from there, though, they just grabbed everybody,
didn't matter.
And somebody's going to say something.
Who wants to raise their hand?
And that's just all it is.
And everything that's on cast is real circumstantial bullshit.
All right. Well, praise to him.
For sure.
Prank for the best.
New music did come out, though, speaking of that.
It did.
Got that Ross.
Talk to me.
I like it.
It's time to be objective.
I like it.
I hate the wiggle record, though.
Gotta be honest.
Wiggle, wiggle, wiggle.
I hate that.
They're going to make it work.
They're going to force it on us.
But I hate that record, man.
I just, it's just, it's, the hook is just too lazy.
Like wiggle, wiggle.
I think it was finally Ross.
Ross has been really good at not showing his age his whole career.
Because Ross came in the game, not as like a 21.
Yeah, no, in his 30s for sure, yeah.
Well, when we found out about him.
Yeah, and whatever his industry age is now, I think Ross is 50.
I just think they got, I think they gave him an early.
His age is documented.
I mean.
Yeah, it's documented.
I think this was when he finally, Wiggle is when he finally showed his age.
Because that hook sounds like that creepy uncle at the barbecue.
Like, and the girl walked by.
He was like, wiggle, wiggle, wiggle, wiggle.
I'm like, I'm comfortable, Ross.
You're finally showing how old you were.
Yeah, the hook was too.
It was just lazy.
I felt like it wasn't much effort in that hook.
The beat is hard.
I know what it's going to do in the strip clubs.
I know once they shoot the visual for it
and we see asses shaking,
we're going to fall in love with it.
But, nah, that's not the one for me.
Dreamdoll came in snitching on Johnny off-riff.
She said the location.
I think she said the flight number.
Just landed in Miami.
Got Johnny on the trap phone.
It's Johnny sitting there like, whoa.
I gave you that phone for a reason.
Oh, man.
Dream dog came and spitting.
But, all right, Wiggo, I understand.
Great production.
Great raps.
I love Pulitzer.
Rapper States.
I think that's what it's called with Benny is hard.
The joint, I love the joint with Blast.
That's probably my favorite.
Yeah, I love that joint blast.
The journey with Jasmine and 21 is super hard.
I still, I mean, that was the first one that came out, and I said on this podcast.
It was underwhelming to me.
You don't like that record?
I've had it so many times from Ross, and I feel like they've executed it so much
I mean, I mean, shit, it works.
Jasmine is killing that shit.
21 got off.
Ross got off, hard beat.
I just saw the video last night.
I didn't even know the video was out.
That was the first single.
That wrecked been out for a minute.
I know that was the first single, but I, you know, you got to, like, artists, like,
put the videos out on their YouTube now.
Like, we don't even, we need, that's what we need.
We need a new video show.
It's called Vivo.
Yeah, but, nah, man, I got to, I got to go to YouTube to see, like, come on.
I'm going to see, like, I want to see, like, I want to see, like, I want to watch a show and
like, you know what I'm saying?
like people like air the video and shit like that like that was part of the culture that was a
huge part of the culture i could i could see you getting talked about carson daly last time i could see
malson daily like giving up there like here's here's the new i could go to the window and wave here's
the new blazing track from insert artist that label paid for like i could definitely see you do
that let's make it happen let's do it fuck it we're put in universe d get them on the phone let's
make it happen but what would be funny instead of instead of everyone going to tom square to wave at like
the window like you just go to st nis and
and you're in the project
window
yeah I got to open the window
like everyone just stands out
it waits for you to wave
yeah yeah yeah that's hard
that's hard
bro you laughing but that's hard
we're gonna get a bag
and someone's gonna get robbed
yeah
yeah no but we need that in the culture man
like that's why I like to find videos
but I saw the video
the video was dope
yeah I like the album
I liked the album a lot
I was scared I was nervous
but he delivered
Ross delivered on this
you already knew
yo I'm looking at him man
you know
What?
How you feel, man?
About what?
Where does this rank in Ross's discography?
Because you're going to make me say bad things about this album.
I can't say whatever you.
You don't like the album.
Say that.
I like the album.
I don't like wiggle.
I hate that record.
I think it matches exactly what we talked about.
It matches the rollout.
It feels like I'm getting all.
I need to put this out to get out of a deal.
It's not bad.
It's going to be Ross.
But to me, like, that's all I'm talking about is the music.
It's the music good.
Like the business behind it was happening.
I was just scared because I didn't feel like the rollout was like
it was something that it was a lot of momentum behind it.
It felt like he didn't put much thought into the music
or into this album in general.
Which I really felt like he didn't put no thought into the music.
It feels like a lazier version of rather you than me.
Nah, I wouldn't say that.
The music is a little different.
It's not, it's Ross going to pick the piece.
It's going to sound great.
The music is just different on this album.
Different how, how am I?
because I didn't expect to hear
future on that type of a track.
That was about to be my biggest compliment of it.
I would love to hear future more on Marvin Gaye sample drums.
Yeah, that was, to me, that was different.
Future has the best verse on that album.
Only because we've never heard, I'm not saying the actual verse itself.
Because we've never heard future in that light.
It was so different.
It came on and it sounded great with Wally in the middle too.
I was like, oh, this is ill.
Yeah.
But other than that, like, it felt even like some of the content.
Of course we know Ross is going to
give us to, you know, regular Ross content, but he does some deep dives into some shit and gives
some real insight on a lot of stuff. I didn't get much of that from Ross on this at all.
And later in his career, he's done a lot of that. It felt like the rollout. It felt like,
let me just do this because it feels like it's time. It feels like I owe the people some music.
Let me do it. And that's not going to be bad from Ross, because it's Ross. But again, as I always say
on this podcast, I can only compare artists amongst their discography. And Ross is one of those artists for me
that I think has one of the best discographies,
I will argue it to so many rappers.
Without a doubt.
Without a doubt.
So, you know, I just, this one,
it felt, you know, it felt kind of like.
Is the music good?
Yeah, I mean.
Is the rap's good?
But why can't, why can shit?
I'm just asking you, I'm asking you direct question.
Is the artist great?
That's my answer.
The artist is great.
Yeah.
So why should we always settle for good?
I'm not expecting to break the mold with every album.
But I'm like, if he, if it sounds like,
Ross. It feels like Ross. He's still rapping at a high level. The production is still at a high level.
The features are dope. Then I mean, as consumers, I mean, what else do we want? But here's the thing.
I'm not comparing him. And again, I'm an idiot behind the mic. Who the fuck am I to say or demand that an artist that is great, put out something great every time? Because that's a very impossible thing to do.
And great. And great. Because I've been seeing a lot of these lists. Ross is a great album. And I'll be like, no, that's not a great album. Ross is a great artist.
I'm I'll even compare it. I'm not even doing that corny like I'm comparing it to his first album. I'll compare it to the last album. Rather you than me, I could play straight through to this day and do often. That is a flawless Ross album late in his career. I still have that hope with Ross. It's not like I've seen a decline with his music. Maybe a decline with his popularity because he started to focus on other things and other artists. But the music has never declined with Ross. The shit is is flawless. So yeah, it felt like this was the first time we got.
an imperfect Ross album.
I mean, besides Wiggle, I don't really know any other songs on there that I just don't want to listen to.
What, what's you rather hear in the club?
Wiggle or I'm too sexy?
Wiggle.
Without a doubt.
I don't ever want to hear way too sexy in the club.
I mean, I don't know.
It just wasn't like crazy standout joints on here to me.
I mean, well, it just came out.
For sure.
Like, we, 72 hours into the album coming out.
Like, so I don't like it, but I'm off the,
listening over the weekend, I'm not, I like that album.
I never hit a skip and said that was bullshit.
I just everything was kind of like across the board for me.
So you're saying he played it safe.
He didn't take no chance.
I don't think he played.
Oh, you think this was just like something that.
I think Ross can do this in his fucking sleep and he just did it in his sleep.
Yeah, so it's on autopilot, yeah.
No, that's exactly what I'm saying.
I mean, he had to, it had to be some thought though,
because like I said, just off the fucking the, the, the future verse and on that beat
getting them on that track alone is something that
had to be a thought.
And I hope you can't wing that.
I hope future does more of shit like that
in the future. Absolutely. No pun intended.
I didn't mean, that was corny.
I didn't even realize. No, that was more. Sometimes that's
how I happened. Sometimes bar, they just come off the head.
I'm a great artist.
You are a great artist for you.
Yeah, I mean, I'm going to keep listening to it. It's Ross.
Still one of my favorite rappers ever.
I liked it.
I'm sure. I'm sure it's going to be
I don't know where it ranks in his discography for me.
I'm not thinking like that yet.
But I was more so scared because I thought the music was going to be suffering a little bit.
And once that wasn't the case, I was like, all right, cool.
I'm happy for that.
This sounds good.
The raps are still good.
So, yeah, we'll see.
It's only been a weekend.
I'm with you.
Ask me Thursday how I feel about it.
Cool.
Well, yeah, I think made it out a lot.
The blast record is phenomenal.
Yeah, I love that record.
Warm words in a cold world.
great. Of course, the Benny shit is great. But, you know, and having Willie Falcone on your
album is just a different type of flex. Yeah. That was insane. I mean, you can give the listeners
his history. Willie Falcone? Yeah. Watch it on Netflix, cocaine cowboys. It's all there. They put it
all there for you. Ross going to find him a drug dealer. Just in case Freeway want to say something.
But no, but to be, but but to be fair, Ross has always mentioned Willie Falcone. Oh, for sure. Years
ago, I remember they were asking him about.
about his, you know, it was an interview, I believe he did,
and they was asking him about who are some of the biggest, you know,
people as far as the drug game that he always, like,
looked in that story and was like, oh, his story is crazy.
And Willie Falcone has always been number one on his list.
Actually, that's how I heard about Willie Falcone was from Ross,
an interview that Ross did years ago.
I feel like every, and this is me outside looking in,
I feel like every drug dealer that ever there's a movie or TV show about
has the same line.
If you purchase Coke in this era, you bought it for me.
Oh no
Somebody's lying
That's hilarious
But in this case
He ain't lying
Willie ain't lying
I see it
That shit is documented
Blowe Foster George
Everybody's like
Yo if you bought cocaine
They all know
They all homies
They all homies
They all Eskabar's friends
They all homies
Trust me
They ain't lying
You know the way
Rockefeller did that
Tree for the T-shirt
Which was ill
We need the Pablo Escobar
You might be on it
You're going to be
It's in my nose
It's a joke
I don't do cocaine.
I know people really think I do.
I really, really don't.
No.
I don't even like eyedrops or nose drops.
You think I'm putting anything in my fucking nose?
It was something else I wanted to ask you.
Well, in the meantime, while you look for that, there was some other music.
Big Boy and Sleepy Brown put out of a, they snuck out a project.
I know they've been talking about it, but there's some joints on that.
It's for us.
If you fucked with Big Boy and Sleepy, it's exactly what we love them for.
They didn't try to do 2021 shit.
They didn't try to do 96 shit.
They just did them.
And it's a phenomenal album.
Like there's really, really some joints on there that, I mean, we could play just maybe not for you two.
You put me on to the Alicia Keys out and you was playing it in the green room.
Sounds good.
Oh, that's good.
You've seen her press around where she was like, well, you know, if I was to do a versus,
it would probably be with Rihanna or Beyonce.
She did a versus already with John Legend.
Yeah, but she thought that she could do one with Rihanna.
Biance.
Where she said, if I was to do it versus, that's what she said?
I don't know if that's what she compared herself to Biont, Biont.
I don't know.
No.
Demand.
Did she compare herself to Rianne or Biance?
Rihanna.
Rihanna.
Or did she say that she would do a versus with them?
Let's not clickbait this.
Did Alicia Keys in fact say she could do a verse?
Well, she could do whatever she want.
Her husband owns the company.
Right.
Yeah.
Let's be totally clear on that.
And she probably owns it too.
So yeah that's his wife she owns it
You never own shit once you're married
Matter of fact
She own the shit if you want to get divorced though
Exactly
Don't own shit when you get married
Do the opposite of what Russ says to do
The moment you get married
Just be an employee
Don't own your master's
Make sure someone else owns them
Once you get married
Don't listen to Rush anymore
Because then you get divorced
And then maybe go try to get your master's back
But if you have your master's you get divorced
I can't see Alicia Keith
Keep saying that though
Okay
I can be wrong, but saying that, because like, Rui said, she should do her, be or re should do one.
Okay, now that's different.
She should do one with one of those.
Okay, that's different.
She's not comparing herself to Rihanna or Beyonce if she said that.
The verses is.
If I say I'm doing a versus with somebody, that means I'm either on your level or better.
That's not true because we've seen some versions, but we was like, we didn't ask for this and this ain't.
I'm saying if an artist says that.
If I say I could do a versus with somebody, I'm saying I'm either on their level or I'm better than them.
Is Alicia Keys on the same level?
Yo, come on now.
As Rihanna.
Yo.
She didn't say she didn't like it, but it was like...
I didn't like it.
I didn't like it.
I don't think anybody liked that one.
Yo, not that essentials that they put out on these DSPs are really it.
I'm going to come clean because no one will say it.
I love Alicia Keys.
I put my pre-shute over.
Shout to Swizz.
Love everyone on Earth.
We're just debating music.
This is my opinion.
Alicia Keys is getting washed by Rihanna and Beyonce.
Washed.
Washed.
Rensed.
I don't know anybody.
that would argue that. Spine cycle.
Yeah, I don't know any way.
Alicia.
As she should, though. I respect the confidence.
Outside of her in Swiss, who would argue that?
Do, I love Alicia Keys, but man, no.
I do too.
She didn't mean that.
She had an album coming out.
So you just tricked us.
We asked you 10 times if she meant that.
You said, nah, she said that shit.
She said it.
I don't think she meant that.
I think she needed a sound bite.
Okay.
Well, with that said, this Alicia Keys album.
It sounded good.
I was going into it.
Not really sure what an Alicia Keys album sounds like
right now. And this shit is hard. Like I was pleasantly surprised. It scared me a little bit because
she came in on the intro with Pusha T and her on the Beanie Siegel truth beat. And I was like,
all right, where are you taking us? Where is this Alicia Keys? Is she freestyling? And then it gets
into this shit for the people who are watching on YouTube and not listening on Stitcher.
But this is best of me, Alicia Keys. She gets in like her boom bat bag. Like, it's cool, adult.
contemporary R&B that you
can listen in the crib. And then she gets obviously in her piano
records, the shit is a really good album.
I can't front at all. Yeah, it sounded
good. We were listening to it in the green room. I was like, okay.
It's definitely a vibe I can roll up and smoke, too.
It sounds like urban outfitters music. I like
Urban Outfit's music.
But you know I'm a sucker for these drums because I shop at Urban Outper.
Yeah, exactly. See? You know what's a vibe I'm going for?
You know anyone that wears...
Carl, get into your shit, Carl? I ain't see you moonwalk yet today. What you're doing?
You can't wait. Too slow?
Moonwalking? Yeah, you ain't moonwalking, me. What you doing?
You know anyone that ever wore a J. Diller Change My Life T-shirt loves these drums.
Oh, for sure.
When this comes on, we can.
These are the drums.
We go to like a coffee shop and they have like a band.
Yeah, yeah.
This homie right here slamming on the drums.
A little shot A sample, like, this shit is good.
Who?
Mike Will.
Mike Will?
Executive produced album?
Okay.
That's my kind of music, my burns.
Yeah.
No.
Please check out that.
Can we get into the burning sage thing?
Sage smells like somebody
overcooked a grilled cheese
You're a vegan
That comes hand in hand
You come with sage in your pocket
No I do not
I hate sage
I hate the thought of it
When you walk in the juice bar
You should try Palo Santo
Yeah sage might not agree
With your ancestors
You should probably try Palosanto
Why wouldn't Sage agree with my ancestors
How does Sage know my ancestors
Did you do his Ancestry.com
You don't know his ancestors
Yeah
You don't know what I did I'm on
Paolo Santo
Paolo Santo
Why you don't buy me some
I'll buy you some
Make my life better Dee
Not my job.
It is your job.
That is not in my job description.
We black.
We're supposed to make each other's lives better.
See?
Black Lives Matter how soon we forget.
See?
See?
Cops stop killing.
Y'all stop yelling.
See?
The cops have not stopped killing.
LAPD just told y'all they can't protect y'all.
No, they said.
They were talking to the whites.
That's what's crazy.
Hey, white people don't come here.
That's exactly who they was talking to.
White people do not come.
These niggas is out here violent.
We can't protect.
Would you be concerned if you walked into a chick's crib and sage was burning?
Nah.
Because you're getting pussy when you smell that.
Yeah, I wouldn't.
That's the smell of I'm giving it up.
It's the logic.
The logic you guys have kills me.
Yeah.
Like if you walk into a chick's house and she said take your shoes off, you know what's next.
You know what's next.
Clean carpets?
I don't know.
You know what else you ask to take off.
I don't know shoes in my house.
Okay, no problem.
No jeans on the couch, too.
Let me know because I come right out.
No jeans on a couch.
couch is sick. Like, now you're dragging it.
You don't say, oh, no jeans on the couch. I'm a no jeans on my couch. Be honest with you.
Meanwhile, you can see the denim stains on the couch. Yeah, that's why I want no more.
It's mental enough. Like, I don't want any more. That's fucking sick.
Yeah, but Alisha Keys' album sounds good, though. Yeah, it's definitely. And I definitely,
I definitely didn't even know she put out of the album. It's, it's for us. Like, you could play that
in crib and you'll be high. I'm going to definitely download it and check it out. And even more on
like the adult side. I don't want to call it adult because they're not that old, but, you know,
music's a young man's game and in two years the sound changes. So at this point, Big Boy,
Sleepy, and Alicia Keys are all considered older artists, not by age, but by music.
If I could get these joints now at 31 years old, I'm jamming in the crypt of this year.
This is all Big Boys album, Sleepy Brown, Seelow Green, Intentions.
It's called Big Sleepover. Thought that was funny.
We should have a big sleepover.
eight yeah why is that an a yo that i didn't say we should have a big big sleep over just you and i i said
we should have a big sleepover meaning we should invite people see look we just so look let me
we should do a sleepover at rory house why we got to be at rory house we go because we don't know where
you live no no we don't have to be at rory's house to marries a car both been in my house we could
we could no we could we could we could like rent like a cabin somewhere i need wifi uh what's
they have wifi cabins have wifi now oh i thought you guys were
going authentic. I didn't know y'all were glamping.
Sorry, bad bitches. No, what I'm just saying?
Like, you think that me and Rory would be in the woods?
No, you're right. Yeah, you think we'd be in the woods with no Wi-Fi?
It's not happening. I've seen enough movies like that. Not happening.
Well, I think they call those work retreats.
Let's have a work retreat.
Work retreats, though. Have any y'all worked in corporate?
Oh, never mind. Um, we've also drugs. No, we have not working corporate.
Those corporate retreats. Those corporate retreats, those corporate retreats, you start finding out some real weird shit about your co-workers.
So who's weed?
You're not even in the room.
Yeah, Hesuits, you're in the sky.
I can't even see you.
I'm not talking to you.
You're in the clouds.
I'm not praying right now.
I'm talking to people in the room.
You find out, like, the drug habits,
who's fucking who in the office?
Yeah.
Like that insecure episode
where Molly got wild at the work retreat?
Well, we don't know she got really wild.
She didn't get wild.
She was twerking.
Yeah, but she just got drunk and went to sleep.
And stole a watch.
Yeah, she went to sleep. She didn't get wild.
I think he held it down.
I don't think we got the real story
For those that don't know
An insecure spoiler
She goes on a work retreat
Finds dudes watch
In her bed
And then does the dumbest woman move
Ever of thinking she's being in
Oh hey I found this in the hallway
Yeah
I found a Rolex that's been sitting in the hallway
Yeah
In the hall
Everybody just walked past his watch
And nobody picked it up
And first of all any human being
That finds a Rolex on the ground
I don't care if you're fucking
The Dalai Lama
You're putting it in your pocket
And you're shutting the fuck up
Yeah
That was kind of
I didn't understand that either
No, she was trying to figure out who's,
she's trying to figure out what happened
whose watches this.
I know Molly.
It would have been funny if the girl
the table was like,
yeah, that's mine.
That would have been funny.
Issa.
Isn't Molly,
but Molly is,
I felt like when it's insecure first started,
was she gay?
Or was she bisexual?
No more.
That was a fantasy you had.
That I had?
I've never had a fantasy about Molly,
I don't think.
She's a virgin in real life, right?
I feel like she went on the whole press run about that.
About her being a virgin?
Like, she's still a virgin.
Do we believe that?
Let's look it up because we outed like 15 people last episode.
No, we were trying to figure out who was out.
I mean, what's wrong with accusing someone to being a virgin?
Yeah, like, no, I take dick every Friday.
Like, we go get canceled and say somebody's a virgin.
Look at you respecting yourself to marriage.
Oh, wow.
No, she is.
Oh, yeah, see?
Cisco still might be gay then.
Might be still bad at 1,000.
He might be. Yeah.
Yeah, she says really hard being a reverse.
virgin in real life and then
how old is she?
Never ask a woman's age.
Do we believe that she's really a virgin?
32.
She was 32 in 2016.
So, yeah.
So she's 37.
But why lie about being like,
lie about your body count, cool.
But why would you lie about being a virgin?
Some women.
I recently found out a few years ago that
a girl that, here's the crazy part,
I wanted to have sex with her.
Because she was a virgin?
No.
Oh.
I wanted to have sex with her.
She knew that.
and I just found out years ago
that she actually told people we had sex
and we never had sex
Yeah it happens
Does it? Women lie like on
On their box?
Yes they're doing
And when you're a figure like you
I never knew women
I never
Figure eight
Oh because he was rated at eight
That was a callback to a couple years ago
Hey I see it
I never knew that women did that
Yeah they lie on their box
I never knew women did that
Not only they lie on the talking work
I don't want to try to keep it like low key
Who they fuck like
Now when they got a piece like you
So, more, first of all,
stop calling me a piece,
and you looked me in my eyes and said a piece
like, am I fetusizing you?
You're like, don't do that, though.
But I told, I told you that.
That a girl I knew,
had told a girl I knew
that y'all had fucking,
like, y'all dated, dated.
And then you said I saw that girl one time
in a hotel lobby and then I left.
That's so weird to me.
Clout.
That's weird.
But what's the clout?
I was great to say,
what did they get?
They think they get.
out from dating mall they think they
I think that she I think what happened was
I think that she knew that one of her
girls wanted to fuck with me
yeah and I think that she was
kind of low-key like hating or not
not knowing women when you say that they're gonna want
their friends gonna want to fuck you more because women are
never mind forget it um women are hornier
than us you can say it good I said I was gonna say
pieces of shit
oh that's what's what you're gonna say? Yeah I know he was
what pieces of shit I can't wait to fuck they
friends friends
I don't think I ready for them conversations
but they're not having them.
They just, they're in action mode.
We're talking.
They got their crocs in sports mode.
Yes, in fuck mode.
They got the double.
The ugs in fuck mode.
Ogs is definitely the fuck mode.
Oh, man.
Don't some tights and some ugs in a hotel lobby.
Oh, 2012 was a great time.
Y'all were nasty.
What were we talking about before that?
It was something I didn't want to talk about.
Molly's a virgin.
No, even before that.
Oh, yeah, no, no, the virgin part.
We were talking about work retreats.
Well, forget that.
Because John ain't taking us nowhere.
We knew.
cap. No, we could take, we're going to, now we're going to take a work retreat. See? Because
DeMaris thinks were pieces of shit. We just, just took you to West Hollywood. Detroit.
Just took you to Detroit. We take me to Detroit. I offered, you said no. Exactly.
No, we're going to have a work retreat, though. Let's do it. For sure. Let's do it. And we're
going to record from the work retreat. So that means Carl doesn't get the retreat. Yeah, he gets to
retreat. You know, all Carl want to do is moonwalk, talk to some girls, and record. That's all
car want to do.
Call is the most, yeah, like, call is very low maintenance.
Like, you give Carl some good hardwood floors and let him slide.
Like, he's cool.
He's fine.
Totally fine.
Totally fine with that.
Yeah, he's an easy traveling for sure.
Yeah.
Ed and we haven't traveled yet.
We don't really know.
Yeah, we haven't traveled with Ed.
I'm a little nervous.
And he's a DJ.
You know, like, traveling with DJs.
Have y'all ever traveled with DJs?
Yes, unfortunately.
My father's a DJ's getting a bag when they travel.
Oh, yeah.
Like, DJs eat all, all the food at the, uh,
hotels, continental breakfasts and all that, they be downstairs early. DJs?
Yeah, DJs be downstairs early with the little box of frosted flakes.
Yeah, you know Edin if we stayed at the hotel and they had just an auxiliary cord, anything.
He plug in, start his shit, start asking chicks like, oh, we want to play you something?
Like, you ever see the DJ? In the lobby, though. You ever see the DJs?
Ed didn't set up shop in the lobby. You ever see the DJs in the booth, like, be asking chicks
that they need their phone charged?
Of course.
That's a good DJ though.
Oh no, that's...
That has phone charges.
That's a great deal.
I used to tell chicks,
stop trying to be friends with the promoter.
If you look good, you'll get in.
Right.
You need to be friends with a DJ
because your phone is going to die.
Your phone is going to charge.
And that pool.
The DJ is the asset.
Everything.
And he'll let you, you know,
you can get your Instagram off back there
make it seem like you're important in the club.
Yeah.
Like when the new sexy song come on,
you could sit like this.
You're like, DJ Edding.
Yeah.
DJ Edding.
What?
Why chicks always trying to tap in with the DJ?
Anytime they put up up.
You know why they're trying to tap in with DJ.
They're trying to get tapped by the rapper.
You know why they're tapping in with the DJ.
No, come on.
Come on, guys.
Come on.
I want to find Molly and hang out with the Virgin.
I don't want to hang out.
Actually, do I know any virgins in real life?
I want to ask a Virgin if they find men that want to really sleep with them, like, creepy.
Because I want no parts of a virgin.
That terrifies me.
I feel like a guy who's like, ooh, she's never fuck someone.
Let me, that's my type.
I want to know how many times a week of virgin masturbates.
Maul, you got a thing with masturbation.
No, I just want to know because we had a young lady here that says she doesn't masturbate.
Corral is a funny word, masturbation.
No, because we had a guest, Brianda, shout out to Brianda.
She said she doesn't masturbate.
That was like, you don't touch yours.
I got to understand not touching somebody else.
Because of Jesus.
Wanting somebody else to touch you.
You don't think Jesus masturbate?
She's not going to touch herself until Larry Hoover is free.
And that's that.
So yeah, you don't think, I just think it's weird when people don't touch themselves.
Like, I could understand not wanting anybody to touch you and not wanting to have sex with somebody, but like not touching yourself.
Come on, fan.
I'm not a virgin.
I'm asking by accident sometimes.
I'm caught.
You know what?
Never mind.
I'm like, I don't even want to do this.
Like, why am I doing?
I didn't even want to do this.
I wasn't even like horny.
Got to keep the numbers up.
Big boy, sleepy brown.
I was now now.
Big sleepover.
Big sleepover.
Download it.
Is that how we got to that whole conversation?
Yeah, absolutely.
From sleeping over.
Though I will say, we're talking about adult summer games.
Big adult sleepovers would be funny with the right people.
And not even on like some where y'all brains is going now.
Gotta have to write people.
Just a fun fucking sleepover shit.
Game night that extended.
Everyone's in their fucking onesie pajamas with the feats.
Everyone has their own room.
That's a fun night to me.
That's, I think, a great New Year's Eve.
because New Year's Eve is coming up.
What are your plans?
That's amateur night.
I don't go out on New Year's Eve.
To me, like, doing the big sleepover for New Year's Eve would be the way to do it.
Because who wants to go out in the city on New Year's Eve?
Well, I'm thinking about going away.
Well, I mean, we already know.
We know your body.
Only if you let you roared over.
Come on, you can't bring in the New Year with plastic on it.
Everything they sell with New Year's plastic.
The glasses, the noise makers.
It's all plastic.
Yeah.
No, we're not bringing in a New Year.
year like that. Well, we're going to have a fun,
wholesome sleepover for New Year's year. I'm down. Let's do it.
Conno's don't need to be there because no one will be having intercourse.
Oh, you want to do a new year? I can't make it,
I have this thing. This thing. This thing. This thing on the island?
It's a pretty young thing. I have this thing.
See, see how the Marys just throw pretty young thing out there. See?
Why I can't be going away to find myself at the stroke of midnight of 2022?
A pretty old thing? No, just myself. I need to, you know, I want to be centered. I want to be
like focused going into
2022. No you don't.
Um, so yeah, big boy
Sleepy Brown, big sleepover. We're having a sleepover
a work retreat. DeMaris set it up. I have one more question from
well. Because you know he's all like Mr. Rules. Like, yo, you can't ever do
a single, you can't respect a girl unless she's your girlfriend. You can't do anything
with a woman unless she's your wife. I've never said that. I've never said that. I've never said that.
You've alluded to it. I've never said that. So I have to ask if you're going to go away on New Year's or
even be with a woman on New Year's and you're saying you already want to sleep with her.
When that ball drop,
my ball drop.
Whoa,
whoa,
whoa,
so much for coming in.
Whoa, whoa, whoa.
Whoa, whoa.
When you're with a girl and she's your girlfriend on New Year's,
you have to kiss her when the ball drops.
That's the thing.
Everyone looks around the room like,
who's ready together.
So you're in Shorter now.
She's going to expect that kiss at midnight.
If I was somewhere away with-
Are you going to do some boyfriend shit?
If I'm away with a woman on New Year's,
Like on a vacation or anywhere.
Then I'm definitely kissing her at midnight.
Come on, man.
I'm not bringing in a New Year with somebody that I don't kiss.
You're such a hypocrite.
Why?
Because that's boyfriend shit.
No, it's bad.
Flying away on New Year's Eve to make out with you when the ball drops is boyfriend shit.
No, he like trips.
Because he's a trip.
No, I like spending time with quality women.
Oh my God.
Y'all hate that I got quality women in my life.
Look at you.
Y'all want me to date these holes so bad.
Not going to do it.
Not going to happen.
Date yourself.
I've all been dating myself for years.
You don't shut off about masturbation.
Are you bringing a young lady to our team dinner?
They were just saying we don't bring them nowhere.
We're going to a fancy restaurant for a Christmas dinner.
I'm not listening to DeMaris.
And after she said all that, guess what happens?
We're splitting the check.
Yeah, exactly.
Whoa.
Between each other.
All sides.
Separate bills for everybody.
Yeah.
Go ahead.
What you had?
What you drink?
How many sangrias you had?
Yeah, that's you.
How many sangria?
That's you.
I ain't told me my company car to be in.
Serve sangria.
I was white.
No problem.
Are you bringing anyone?
No, I didn't plan on it, no.
Okay.
Are you?
No, I just figured it was a team.
Yeah, anybody I bring wouldn't be part of the team.
Fair enough.
Yeah, we don't want that energy in our locker room.
Damaris?
Any pluses?
You coordinated it, so.
We don't know what you added to maybe the reservation.
Like, yo, put a little chair on the,
You know that side corner of the table?
Just a stool.
DeMaris, let me tell you something.
My plus one is jazz.
She's not a plus one.
She's on the list.
She's on the list.
Sorry.
So you still have a plus one.
Now you still have your plus one that is available.
Not if I got paid for my own dinner now.
I'm not bringing a post one.
I got it.
Oh, you know that.
Well, no.
He's going to pay for you and your man's dinner.
I got it.
I got it.
Don't worry about it.
It's all good.
I'm not bringing a plus one.
I'm good.
No plus ones.
I'm excited to spend, spend some holiday time, not Christmas.
because that's offensive.
Is it?
Is Christmas offensive now?
Yes.
There's an offensive list too.
There's a war on Christmas right now.
My name is Rory Farrell.
There's nothing Jewish about that.
Sorry.
Hey, think of Rory is Jewish and he's not
is the funniest shit in the world.
Roe, you're Jewish, aren't you?
No, he's not.
That's Catholic fucking name ever.
Yeah, it's Pharaoh and in O'Malley.
Right next to you tell them.
I promise you it's right.
O'Malley and Farrell, 100%.
Oh, my God.
God. Well, I'm excited to spend
some time with y'all. We had to alter the menu
so, you know,
it won't be as good as we thought it would be.
Yeah. You had to alter the menu?
Yeah, we can't get all the things we want because there's
just, even the kale
Caesar is made with shit, so
we're just getting the bland version.
Oh, yeah, I had to alter
it for me. Yes. Yeah, vegan, okay.
But, okay, all right.
They're doing some Spring Valley vegetable
with noodles or something.
Yeah. Okay. And like a lime.
gonna love it
see we should have planned it out better
but it's okay
we're gonna have fun either way it goes
everyone wanted to go to carbone
or anything with the word
bone and meat in it
and I was like guys we can't do that
so El Molino
I love El Molino
That's my spot
So you like El Molino
I could have been in
I haven't been in a while though
since I became vegan
Oh
listen when the spot we're going to
When the rappers find out about this spot
Because it rhymes with so much stuff
And it's a fancy restaurant that nobody know.
And, you know, rappers want to be like, oh, I don't do town no more.
Like, I do this.
When they find out, because that word rhymes with so much shit.
Restaurants and shit that I like.
I hate that.
Yeah, I hate that shit.
Yeah, I hate that shit.
It's still a shit show.
It's still trying to recover.
Seven years later.
Lear and Rick Rawls shut down Pergola for the rest of our lives.
That was the cool spot.
Now it's just the spot.
It's just social media makes the world so small.
Like once four of the most popular people post something, it's a rat.
Where Lira been?
Raising her child.
Oh, good for her.
It's good for her.
Who got her pregnant?
Ross?
No.
P.
Oh, her too?
Yeah, that's a beautiful family.
P needs to do a reality show like the Brady Bunch.
Because all his BMs love him.
And that's a great thing.
I think that's super healthy.
I see all of them put captions of how great of a father he is,
how great, like, P is doing this from the ones I've seen.
I know he's got a lot of kids.
P's been doing that shit right.
That's a reality show.
Well, you know, you should be able to have a good positive relationship with your kid's mother.
I agree.
And that's positive and all that shit.
I'm talking about some messy shit.
Yeah.
Pee doing the Brady Bunch with all his baby mothers would be the funniest show ever.
And think about the soundtrack.
All the shit he could clear?
That soundtrack to PBMs.
PVM is the show.
How you think about all that and be like, yo, but he could clear all the records too.
That's what you think about?
Okay.
he should.
They seem to like him.
Yeah.
Betray yourself in that way of having multiple baby mamas,
but it's still being a positive family though.
For sure.
Like everybody talks,
communicates.
It's not toxic.
Money helps with that.
I was going to get to that.
It usually does.
But we've seen some situations of people to have money in.
They don't have a relationship with their kid's mother at all.
For sure.
Are we missing anything?
Yes.
So did you watch?
And then there was, what is it called?
Oh.
My lord.
And just like that.
Oh, it's called In Just Like That.
What is it on?
This is the Sex in the City spin-off.
It was still Sex in the City, but one of the characters.
They're probably a spin-off because Samantha left them high-end drive.
So they can't really say sex in the city because Samantha's not there.
I thought it would have been cool to just kill Samantha off.
Whatever.
But they didn't kill Samantha off.
But they kill somebody else off.
Now, if you haven't seen it.
You can't kill people off and sex in the city.
They fucking did it.
It's not that show.
People die in the city.
Why not?
They have sex in the city and they die.
What are they jump in front of the subway?
Death in the city.
Why not?
Catch syphilis.
Nobody died from syphilis on sex in the city reboot.
Y'all are lying to me right now.
No, man.
No.
Don't listen to Dematch.
Where did this go?
So yeah, if you haven't seen it, skip this next three minutes.
We're going to be real quick with this.
So just skip this part.
Okay, so what's the name?
Carrie.
Carrie Bradshaw's husband, Big.
Right?
Mr. Bigg?
That's what they call him, whatever.
Your older brother.
Yeah.
He died because he was working out on his Peloton.
And when he got off his Peloton, he had a heart attack.
And he passed out, laid on the floor by the shower.
And Carrie comes in from an event.
She sees him on the floor.
She starts screaming.
He dies in arms.
I say that to say this.
Peloton stock plummeted after this happened.
Peloton stock was already plummet.
Yeah, but this one put them all the way out the building.
Wait.
Are you suggesting that HBO and Sex and the City is doing insider trading?
I knew exactly what they were doing.
Absolutely.
One thousand.
That's what I'm getting to.
So he dies after he gets off his Peloton.
Peloton stock plumbers, even though DeMarcye, they were already down.
I think that people started throwing peloton's out of the windows once this happened.
Peloton released a video on Instagram.
And Mr. Big, or the guy that plays Mr. Big was in the Instagram video with his new girlfriend.
And it kind of alluded to the fact he faked his death.
I was going to do with her.
No, no, this was the greatest.
This was the greatest.
rebrand in the history of rebrands.
They alluded to the fact that this is his new girl, and he said, oh, you know, like, life is short.
Let's take another ride.
Life is short.
Go with your mistress.
It's two peloton's behind them, behind the couch.
And you say, you want to take another ride.
Life's too short not to.
And then the greatest end of the fucking video, the guy with the, you know, commercial voice runs off a whole bunch of things of how cycling actually helps your heart.
And it's great for cardiovascular health.
For sure.
And then ends that with he's alive.
Or was a TV show?
People actually thought that, you know, people are, listen, bro, people are weird.
I'm telling you.
So I just thought that that was amazing.
That was great.
I don't understand how they're killing people on sex in the city like you said.
That's hilarious.
This turned into a soap opera all of a sudden.
But I'm going to keep watching because it's sex in the city.
And then there was that and just like that and just like that.
I'm not going to act again, I got it.
Imagine they start clipping people off Seinfeld.
This is what I'm saying.
It's kind of like it was a little, I didn't expect it.
that soon.
Well, granted, they are old as shit.
So people got to start dying.
They're in their 50s.
That's not old as shit.
He is, we don't know his diet.
They're in their 50s.
He was always about 10 years older than her.
He was almost 60 something.
60?
He had to go.
Yeah.
Shit.
And an old white man that was in the stock market.
Yeah, he didn't have a long life to live.
Oh, the stock market here takes years off your life.
Yeah.
I have a really good question to ask you.
I don't know if I should save it, but it's based off this topic.
Maybe we should say for next episode, but I'll ask the question.
Have y'all ever thought about your second partner, your second wife or husband?
Yes.
No, listen, hear me out.
Hear me out.
I thought about my third.
No, we hear.
See, see, man.
But hear me out.
At some point, let's say you get the perfect scenario.
You and your partner grow old.
And unfortunately, your partner dies before you.
But on their deathbed, they're like, hey, live the rest of your years.
we had an amazing marriage.
If you want to go out after to, you know, feel better, go ahead.
Like, don't think that you have to be single for the rest of your life because I'm dead.
And then who thinks that?
That happens a lot.
That happens often.
People are single for the rest of their lives after their spouse dies?
Of course.
They're fucking devastated.
They think they can never be with somebody.
So I've thought about, like, what type of woman I would go after.
And that's where I think my, I'm a just trick.
Like, give me the stupid 21-year-old when I'm 70.
No way. You would not be able to tolerate that fucking, you would not be able to tolerate a younger, younger one.
I would just throw money at her. No. She'd be a yoga instructor. It's like, you want to, want to get it to her? She'd do Pilates.
I think that if you, you know, if you're an older man and you were married for some years and your wife passes away, I think that the norm is probably that most men, once they move on and start dating again, it is.
as a young woman.
I think we can look at the optics and see, like,
she's about 20 years younger than you, sir, but.
I can see Demaris going for like a young salsa instructor.
Salsa instructor?
Now, Damaris would be 65 ready to get that cat up to a young dope dealer.
Oh, for sure.
A good old, good old dope boy.
Finance's dreams.
Yeah, good old dope dealer to come home and just slang dick and dope.
Dick and dope.
That dick on consignment.
I'm fucking disgusting.
I'm calling it.
But now, think about it on our break before
of just what your next partner might be.
Yes.
And speaking of breaks,
we will be going from December 24th,
5th until January 5th.
We will be going.
We won't be any episodes at the time.
Although I think we're probably going to put some stuff out.
We're not going to put some stuff out.
We're not going to put some stuff out.
But official episodes that will be on the streaming services,
they will not be available.
We're going on a break.
We get a little week break.
Yes, Citger is a very nice company that thinks holiday time with your family is important.
Not, hey, no, we need six episodes during holiday.
Yeah.
So we'll be taking just that Christmas and New Year's break.
But that's why we went to Detroit and got our asses whooped just so y'all will have some great entertainment while we are gone.
Yeah, because God forbid we didn't put out anything while we were gone.
People would think that there's nothing to watch.
I mean, we get on live.
and start giving away Christmas dinners.
Oh, you guys are definitely, I have a live schedule.
Oh, and speaking of live, we never heard from the couple that we sent to the show.
Oh, wait, they need to call in next episode.
No, write that down.
Yeah, we got to DM them and say we need an update.
I don't know.
Which makes me nervous.
Does anyone check on them?
Well, Damaris said the young lady had posted when she was at the show.
Yeah.
Okay.
The gentleman didn't post anything.
Oh, he's real.
So we're kind of like, no, we don't know if he actually showed up or not.
Or if he had a wife and kids?
Yeah, he didn't respond to when I tagged them in something.
I'm going to do some research.
Yeah, let's do some research.
I want to hear from her.
She should call in next episode.
Yeah.
And we get a full rundown.
For those that don't know, we went online and we gave away tickets to the Kanye and Drake show.
Yes.
To two strangers that went on the first date.
Maul picked up the bill per usual.
Did you pick the bill up?
I think DeMaris told me I did.
She pocketed that money.
Maul and sent me a dollar.
No, I told DeMaris to set it up.
I would send her the money.
I would send her $300 for dinner.
I know she took it.
She went to dinner.
I didn't send her a $300, though.
I don't know if she did it.
You didn't do it?
Well, we didn't hear from him.
That's what I'm saying.
Yeah, fuck them.
Okay.
Not like that.
We didn't hear from the dude.
We don't even know if he went.
We don't even know if he went.
Yeah, because his wife was on the other side of that phone when he was holding that shit.
Well, now, he probably couldn't get his hair braided.
He probably sold the ticket, honestly.
I mean, come on.
Those tickets that we bought were way cheaper at the night of, like.
Yeah, the tickets went down.
What?
Absolutely.
We paid 1,200.
Them shows was 300 by that time.
Yeah, if you want to go with like $100, you could have got it.
And the way that stage was set up, you could have sat anywhere in there and there would have been a great seat.
Yeah.
So, you know, whatever.
All right.
Well, I think we covered everything.
We'll see you all in two days.
Shout out to everybody that's been listening.
That enjoyed the interview.
Roddy Rich's album comes out this week.
I believe so, yeah.
Because he had posted on his Instagram.
I don't know if that was supposed to be last Friday or this Friday.
I saw him standing on a stool next to Katie and.
And Eddie, yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Shout out to Katie. Shout out to Eddie.
Yeah. I can't wait.
Well, Bankski. I don't want to that.
You know, people get mad when you say the government name and know my stage name, bro.
So shout out to Banksy.
I mean, there's already a Banksy that's secret.
Yeah. Well, he's one of them.
I heard that Banksy was a whole collective. It wasn't just one person.
I didn't know Eddie was in.
That shit is weights.
Though, there's definitely a collective. It's a collective that houses artists and sculptors and stuff.
He might be one of them. Very true.
All right.
Anything else, DeMaris.
Are we good?
You guys are good.
All right.
Have a great week.
We'll be back Friday.
Peace, love, health, prosperity,
and all that other corny shit
that people don't wish upon you.
Later.
No.
On the Look Back at it podcast.
From 1979, that was a big moment for me.
84's big to me.
I'm Sam J.
And I'm Alex English.
Each episode, we pick a here,
unpack what went down,
and try to make sense of how we survived it.
With our friends, fellow comedians,
and favorite authors.
Like Mark Lamont Hill on the 80s.
84 was a wild.
It was a wild.
I don't think there's a more important year for black people.
Listen to look back at it on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
It's Financial Literacy Month, and the podcast, Eating While Broke, is bringing real conversations about money, growth, and building your future.
This month, hear from top streamer, Zoe Spencer, and venture capitalist Lakeisha Landrum Pierre, as they share their journeys from starting out to leveling up.
There's an economic component to communities thriving.
If there's not enough money and entrepreneurship happening in communities, they fail.
Listen to Eating While Broke from the Black Effect Podcast Network on the IHeart Radio app,
Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast.
I'm Daniel Alarcon, and this is my friend.
This is much more famous than I am.
I wouldn't go that far, but I'm John Green.
Co-host of the podcast The Away End with my old friend Daniel.
On our podcast, The Away End, we'll share with you the magic of international football.
all leading up to the 2026 World Cup.
Together, we'll find out why, of all the unimportant things, football, soccer, is the most important.
Listen to the away end with Daniel Auerkone and John Green on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
This is an IHeart podcast.
Guaranteed human.
