New Rory & MAL - Episode 266 | Mr. Mal v.s. The Big Steppers

Episode Date: May 7, 2024

We always seem to go on vacation at the most ideal time. I’d say we’re well rested, but we’re not. Like many of you we were refreshing our timelines and analyzing each diss record in real time. Over break we didn’t jump on a call or really discuss anything that happened. This is the first conversation we’ve had as a team. We came into the studio with our own opinions, which we hope you’ve formed as well at this point. An opinion not shaped by a twitter feed or reddit thread. There are no voicemails this episode…just hip hop.  Download the NEW DraftKings Pick Six app NOW and use code RORYMAL for a shot at HUGE cash prizes. The crown is yours. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoicesSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

This is an I-Heart podcast. Guaranteed Human. He did rap about it. Now y'all saying, you mad? He rapped about it. What the fuck of y'all talking about? Okay. Now...

That's exactly what he did on the Heart Part 6th. He rapped about. This nigger's taking his fake information. I told y'all this on Family Matters when I said, you digging for dirt. You should be digging for proof. I got pictures of the fucking little girl all in the fucking video,

plastered on the wall. I'm fucking playing with this dumb nigga. And he's going for it. I'm the most lit nigger in the game. Y'all mad. and there's no skeletons in my closet. I'm not no fucking pedophile. Stop.

That's the only thing y'all knicks know that can fucking end my run as me being in and it doesn't exist. Stop the bullshit. But you, Mr. Lamar, you hit your girl because she's bigger than you. You put your hands on your girls. She's been engaged for years.

You're not married yet. You living in New York. She's not. Let's talk real shit. All this Elevio daughter shit y'all talking about? And he, because he released it right after the family matters. It's a better.

Get the fuck out of here with that shit. We didn't say it was a better record. We said Family Matters is probably the best song in this ocean. It ain't no probably, niggas. It's the best record that's releasing this entire beef. No. They're not like us. They not like us.

They not like us. They not like us. They not like us. They're not like us. And we are back. I almost cursed because that's how excited I am. But I don't want to get demonetized. Even though Kendrick is, you know, making sure we all good.

We can monetize every. everything thanks to Kendrick. Never seen that before. How are you feeling, man? How was your vacation? How was your birthday? Um, my plan of trying to stay off my phone or not pay attention to anything, obviously failed. Yeah. Said last week, you watch, because we thought this was over. We really thought that maybe Kendrick was just stepping out of the ring and he was above it because like that was number one and he was going to do everything on the album. And then I said, watch him drop the week of my birthday. I get on the plane to Mexico City wake up, connect to the Wi-Fi,

and what do I see? A response. Yeah, which one? What response was that when you were from Mexico? That was euphoria. Because I feel like it's been a whole, like, a whole slew of- Oh, no, that just started.

So I literally, this entire battle happened in our vacation. The first record dropped when I was on my way. The second one dropped. I'm sorry, the last one dropped when I was on my way back. So I got this entire thing just in Mexico City time with the worst Wi-Fi you could ever think of. Damn.

So I was just going from like restaurant to restaurant. Like, hold on. Okay, I got through one minute of it. Yeah. Seven records dropped from the span of April 30th to May 5th. 616 in L.A., Family Matters, the Barry to Laugh Parity. Meet the Grams, not like us, and the Hart Part 6. So you went away, you went to Mexico.

I went down to Florida to see my brother. And like you, when I was on the flight, I was asleep on the way down there. And I woke up to a bunch of text messages and missed FaceTime. Yep. So I knew with that, man. I'm like, okay, something happened. So then I see the Euphoria record is out. So once I got in the car and away to the house, I said, let me listen to this Euphoria.

And so I'm listening to it. I'm like, okay, pretty good. I liked it. But we knew this. This is Kendrick. We're not expecting anything less than high-level rap. bars, let's air out some dirty laundry.

Whether it's true or not, we'll get to that later. But I knew the angle. You know, you knew. Keep coming. So, Maul and I have not spoken at all. I think we briefly spoke on FaceTime the first day. And my phone was fucked up the last like four or five days. I got my new phone trying to get all my shit back.

But yeah. And our group chat was pretty quiet because everyone was doing their own vacation thing. You know, we'd throw certain things in there every now and then. We really didn't talk much. But every day while I was with. my daughter trying to enjoy my birthday. I was like, I wonder what Mall thinks about this. Same.

The entire fucking time. I'm like, what angle will Mall take on this record? About Euphoria? We can start with Euphoria. Okay. Let's start it. What's your favorite bar? She's been so many raps.

I don't even know what the fucking... No, from Euphoria. What's your favorite? What is my favorite part of Euphoria? I see the angle that Kendrick was gone without the gate with Euphoria. It was to try to strip And it's been working Because the things I've been reading about Drake online

The past week is fucking It's like, whoa, I didn't know people felt like this about him Did you bring any of it to his radar? No, you don't need to bring none of this to his radar. He's read all of this and shit I haven't even read yet. I'm sure he's read. But I saw that angle, you know,

you don't take care of, you know, your kid and whatever, whatever. I'm like, I strip, this is a character assassination. I like it. I like this angle in a battle. Let's strip the guy that everybody thinks is this, you know, bigger than thou and holier than thou. And, no, he got some shit on his jacket, too. So I definitely shifted as the week went.

But when Euphoria first came out, I was like, all right, that's cool. I wouldn't put it as a kill shot. That's not going to get it done. And, you know, people in Drake's camp had alluded that there was another record. that had the so-called nuke or whatever. So I was like, I don't know if that's going to get it done per se. Good shot, Kendrick, but I don't know. Then you posted a photo of a nuke.

The fallout shelter. So I stopped what I was doing because you posted a nuke. And then within a few minutes, the so-called nuke family matters drops. I think it's probably one of the best disc records Drake has ever done. for about six minutes. All right, hold on, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. Because you missed, you did skip 616 LA.

You missed the back-to-back. Oh, I'm sorry. I thought 616 came after, uh, which was 616 in LA? I apologize, yeah. So the next day is with the Al Green sample. So the next day after euphoria, after arguing with everybody I was with

because they were all from L.A., which is also fucking enormous. when you're trying to have a birthday dinner and you're sitting with the most biased Kendrick Lamar fans of all the time that would not stop saying that YFM Melly line the whole fucking time. Like we couldn't get through dinner

without them just saying that back and forth to each other. Then the next morning, 616 and L.A. drops. That's my type of shit. I like when Kendrick's on Soul Beats. I thought that was a cool, again, cool record. Didn't think it was going to get it done. But I liked it a lot.

And I liked the strategy of, all right, Kendrick's now, these rumored 10 records, that he had, maybe we'll get a bunch of these. Then, birthday shot time. It's 1159, May 3rd. All in a circle about to take a birthday shot, midnight hits. All notifications.

Family Matters, Drake. Everyone leaves my birthday's host. Yeah, naturally. Look at the Paul Drake has. I'm just sitting there like, oh, shit. This is what Drake made fun of me before about. He left you alone again. This guy is so good.

He even added me into the disc. Happy birthday. Happy birthday. But I was excited as fuck. So we all run to like this TV thing that we could go to YouTube. Yeah. Watch it. I'm sitting there like, all right, man.

See, this is why you shouldn't play with Drake. This might be one of the best battle records I've heard. Visual was crazy. The switch up. The third verse might be the best verse in this entire battle. It is. That lasted for all, ironically, about six minutes. then we went back to try to fake do my birthday toast again

because I obviously felt away and then get a notification Kendrick Lamar has dropped at 1207 you gotta meet the grams we all run back and I have never seen a record step on another record the way that happened

this is where I think we need to get in the weeds of this entire ordeal in this week the fact that Kendrick Lamar stepped on one of the better disc records I've heard in my life says something about his strategy. Like you can say what you want about the records, but in the week

of strategy, he was outmastered. How the fuck do you step on that record? Yeah. Yeah. How do you step on somebody saying your business partner is the father of your child? Well, that's what you know how fucking insane that is that you're able to step

on that? Wouldn't you want to step on that? Oh, of course. No, but he did it perfectly. What a perfect way to do so. Like, I could never imagine if one day Demaris came in here and was like, just let everyone know, like, Amar is actually Maul's daughter. And then we just kept potting like he didn't just fucking say that. When I was at home, my-

Can you imagine? Let's just move on to the next topic. What did he just say? When I was at home, my parents, I was like giving him, catch him up to speed. And when Kendrick said that line, I paused the record. And what Drake said the line, I paused right? And I was like, what the fuck? My mom was in the dad.

We're like, what? And I was like, Ma, that's like if we found out Amaro's was Moll's kid. And we were like, that's the reality. But it doesn't matter. Because in Kendrick just, it doesn't matter. That should matter so much more than it did. If it's true. It should matter if it's true.

But why doesn't it matter at all? It seems like no one gives a fuck. That's insane. Right? All right. What I think it is. Mall will say something. What I think is going to.

I'm listening to. I have to say for it. What I think is going to be a theme throughout this entire conversation starts with this. First of all, if any of this is true on both sides, everyone involved. Awful. You guys are the worst human beings ever. We all got our shit. Whitney too.

But Jesus Christ, the music industry is a fucking nightmare. Down from Metro to Ross, everybody is clearly a piece of shit. But I know people are lying. It's a battle. I get it. Where Drake may have lost before things even started was his perception over the years because he has been a superstar and we know everything about him has kind of been somewhat of a shitty person to the masses. I'm not saying he is. He's actually been nothing but nice to me. He seems like a good guy. But he's had the perception of a lot of shitty things as every superstar has.

Kendrick's one of the few that didn't really have a stain on his jacket. So even if Kendrick's lying and Drake is telling the truth, it seems like it would check out more with Drake on the shittier stuff. So I think people have such an eye for Kendrick and how much they love him. Saying that his business partner is the father of his kid doesn't check out. Doesn't even make sense. And it's coming from someone we deem to be a piece of shit. And anything Kendrick says about this so-called piece of shit is going to land.

because we're going to think it checks up. Does that make any sense? I mean, it's just interesting to hear, and that's why I love social media and Internet, because we can all be looking at something and listen to something and all receive it differently. So I'm just listening to how you have received the records and, you know, your perspective on it.

So, I mean, we can get into Family Matters, but meet the grams. I will say I liked a lot. I like that it stepped on the, record rather than the actual song. Yeah. Like it was a cool, it was a very obvious, the way I shit it on, um, Mr. Morale of like super surface, surface level therapy.

It was kind of like that to me, it's like, all right, we've kind of been through, you're just taking push, push his angle and making it a six minute song. Yeah. So it was the move rather than the song that made it win to me. Now, no one's addressed anything Drake has said in family matters. Why? Because they haven't had to. Because their strategy has been better than Drake's.

Okay. I'm still waiting on your opinion for family matters to that move. Listen, fuck all that. Drake is smashing this nigga, man. He's punishing this nigga. He's outwrapping this nigga. It's not even close. The music is way better.

The visual is way better. I fed you fake shit and you ran with it. You thought I had a love of your daughter. You're a clown. You're digging for dirt. You should be digging for proof. He gave you everything. I was just trying to get to this.

He gave you the long-winded. No, no. Let me go. Let him go. Let's not sit in here talking, just talking. Let's just talk about the bars, the music. Let's get to that. Who's putting out the better music?

I don't care who's putting out more music. Who's putting out the better music? Okay, you could say, Not Like Us is the best song that came out this shit. So who has the best music? You can say all of this shit is the best song. But we know the end of the day, with the best music, the best rapping.

That second verse on Family Matters, 20V1? Third verse. No, no, no. Fuck the third verse. We know what that is. I'm talking about the second one. Where he's talking to everybody.

Okay. Nigger said he couldn't say, nigga, he might have said it 616 times in that verse. I saw what you just. Smashing all the y'all. That beat, that flow, what he's saying, smashing you. I'm not here to play games and throw out fake shit that I fed you.

I'm talking real shit. Are you beating your wife? Mm-hmm. You've been engaged since 2015. Y'all not married yet. It's the third first. Okay. But why is what Drake is saying the truth?

I heard that might be Dave Freeze kid. I heard it might be. I'm not saying it. I'm leaving room to be old. I'm leaving room to be wrong. He doubled down on it on Hart 6th of saying that is. I'm still leaving room to be wrong. I could be wrong.

I could be wrong. But it's something funny there. It's something funny there. Because he likes a photo of Kendrick's wife and their kids. It's more than that. Why are you not following your fiance? Why does that matter? I don't see.

I'm not doing that. The same reason you're picking apart dumb shit that Kendrick is saying. I'm just throwing shit out there. Ma, I'm, I went into this. We know rap beefs are filled with lies in cap. Like the whole car seat in the condom. I fucked your bitch. You fat my, like, I get it.

Let's, I'm just assuming everything is either the truth or a lie. That's where I try to look at it. I'm not trying to pick apart. What is what Drake said right is what Kendrick said right. I'm just blanket statement. Let's say everything Kendrick said is true and everything Drake said is true. Mm-hmm. Who won?

And I think a lot of this, the meat of this beef, comes to how well Kendrick executed meet the grams on what was Drake's nuke. He neutralized his nuke. It's fake information that he fed this dude. I fed you that and you fell for it. To me, that's a win. If I feed you some fake shit and you run to the booth

and you write some shit down and you make a record, I'm laughing at you. Like, you'll get this idiot. He don't even... In theory, yeah, that should be it. But nobody cared. That's what I'm trying to say with Kendrick's strategy. Nobody cared.

But if Kenrick did that... I'm not saying I don't care. Kendrick fed Drake some fake shit and Drake made a record for it. Everybody will be laughing at this idiot. I am particularly don't really believe Drake when he said he fed him all this fake information. That's where I'm at.

So you thought they found that in Drake's dad's suitcase? You thought that... Oh, I'm not even... Fuck the artwork. I'm not even worried about the artwork. Let's actually discuss that part. You thought Drake had 11-year-old... No, bro.

We commit to people... See, this niggas like this that I can't... You think the biggest artist... I don't fucking know what? You think the biggest artist in the world after going through where he went through a battle and his battle will push you. You think that he would have had a kid older than that kid

and we would have never known about until kids. Well, he would have been hiding that one already before a doctor. Yeah, it would be. I'm not saying I believe it. I don't believe it. What are we talking about? I think yes, one of the biggest artists to ever live with access to every woman on earth may have a couple

other kids. I don't think that's the craziest fucking thing to think. Bro. I would be surprised if you got a kid. After already going through a paternity thing? After going through a paternity thing, you think that, oh, it's one that's older than this kid. Yeah.

Maybe he didn't know. Stop it, man. Also not saying it's true. By the way. But it's plausible. And let's, all right. Let's go back to that artwork thing. This is where I'm kind of on some of the side of people saying Drake might be lying in this whole thing.

Is Kendrick Lamar that fucking dumb that somebody's going to hand him, yo, I found Dennis Graham's suitcase with Drake's medication in it. He said it. He said it. It was a mole in his camp. Kendrick said that on the first record. It's a mole in your camp. It's a mole in your camp. Somebody right next to you.

Somebody's right next to you. yeah, they feed. So he thought he had it in. He thought somebody was really feeding them shit from his camp. He fell for it. Paul, he took the banana in the tailpipe. Okay, so where's the proof that it's not, that none of this is real?

Where's the proof? You keep saying, where's the proof of this? Where's the proof of that? Where's the proof that? Where's the proof? You think he has an love? You think Drake has an 11-year-old daughter? It don't matter what I think. I'm asking. No, but it doesn't matter what I think.

What I'm saying is where is the proof? This mad shit I think ain't true. That's turned out to be true. What I'm asking is, where is the proof that that's not Drake's medication. Where is the proof for these things? You're asking for proof. Why does Kendrick have to prove shit

and Drake don't? I didn't say Kendrick had to prove anything. I'm just saying, let's just be smart here. As soon as I heard that ball, I'm like, oh, man, somebody fed this name. I didn't know it was Drake that fed him the bullshit. That to me was more genius. Like, oh, you sent that info to him?

That's genius shit when it comes to bad. I'm like, look, I know he's thirsty to find something. Let's send a mole at him and let him take this information and then make a record about it. I think he got one up on me. That's believable to me that somebody that probably is cool with Kendrick and Drake could go and say, yo, he also has another kid, just let you know.

And Kendrick running with that. This is where the artwork makes me think both sides are fucking lying. Because I don't think there's a world where Kendrick Lamar is approached with a suitcase of Dennis Grams that has Drake's medication and a Mayback glove. You see, why you don't think that's believable if he think he got a mold from that side?

You think when he buys Tupac's ring, they give him a CVS receipt you think Kendrick Lamar thinks that Bro, if he thinks this is Drake's dad's suitcase he's gonna believe anything that's in it that's what you're not understanding I don't... This is the reason he made this

you think he made this the artwork you think this is the artwork because he didn't believe it? I also think there's a world where look these guys are businessmen they're creatives. You can just fake the... What do you need a fucking $20 printer

and a couple empty pill bottles just to... Like I think it's the perception that I have all this information on you. I don't think any of this shit's real. I can make a fucking fake right now about some ozemic pills that you're on. Like, it's, what do we tell?

We convince people that genocide is necessary right now. Like, making a fake pill bottle is not the most strategic, whoa. Anyone can do this. All right, so, all right, so back to, back to what matters here. Back to what matters. Y'all are sitting here telling me that y'all feel like Kendrick is out rapping him, but not because he's putting out more songs. Y'all feel like he's saying better shit.

He's making better songs out of this whole situation. He's making better decisions. Yeah. because he decided to step on because he dropped the record right after Drake Yeah, that's a part of it. Stepping on that and then coming right back with a record that everyone could dance to

that was a, he made a pedophile anthem that can play in a party for the rest of the year. And then this is where. So what about the last record, the Hart Part 6? Drake naming that taking that record, taking that name, that title that we all know Kendrick was going to probably. Everybody knew that he was going to do that.

I said that three days ago. He was tweeting that days ago. And I'm not like, oh my God, you're the inside. It's not. It's just like a lot of this stuff you can just predict. Like you can see where this stuff's trending. I think the hard part six was Drake's first mistake in this beef. First. His mistake.

Biggest mistake. Maybe not his first. But what? I don't think this was a good record. Why not? I just don't. Again, I'm not really on the sense.

And this is a me statement. I don't believe that Drake was this, uh, mastermind puppet master behind doing all these strings and things. I personally do not believe that. So that's why you think this was a mistake? So I think it, I know a lot of people are at the Twitter timeline. Like, it's waving his white flag.

He's putting a sword down. I also don't necessarily believe that. I just don't think this, this song was effective to what he actually should have done. I think it was. You thought of MitaGrams was effective? I'm not a pedophile. He stepped on the song. He stepped on the mall.

You've been talking about this new for two weeks. Bro, that M. The Graham's record is not dope like that. He put a T-shirt on it and put the fire out in 10 seconds. Alchemist beat. You don't like that beat? I don't like that song. The impact of that record destroying your news. Not like us is dope. I like that record. Yeah. And I like Euphoria. Okay.

But that's meet the gram shit. Get the fuck out. It has no, mall, it has zero replay value. But it's impact greatly put out. If it has no replay value has no impact. Don't even put those in the same sense. There's a lot of battle records that aren't made for replay value. Yeah. Name one. I think most of the beans and kiss thing, unless you want to go sit there and go through that nostalgic time. Most battle records are like that way.

Do you still listen to 300 bars and running? I'd never listen to that record. But it's one of, I know you don't think. It's too much rapping. I don't want to hear all that rap, 300. Pretty much anything back and forth. So you don't like a lot of heavy rapping. No, that's not what I'm saying.

I don't want to hit 300 bars from no nigga. I don't go for who's spitting it? I can't, my brain cannot retain 300 of your bars. You think super ugly and Ether have replay value? No, they're just great. This record. Their moment. They had replay value at the time.

I mean, it's been a bunch of years since that came out. But yeah, a couple years after that record came out, people were still playing Ether. Okay. Nobody's playing Meet the Grame. Also, but let me land that point. But it crushed his new. When you put out five other records and one of them is probably going to be a number one single,

yeah, you can take a Mulligan and step on Drake's nuke with Meet the Grams. Even if it doesn't have replay value, I know you're about to do this Dave free shit. So I'm going to dissect your entire family life seven minutes after you drop it. to make everyone forget. With fake news. With fake news. On one verse. With fake news.

On one verse. Even if he had left that daughter shit out, it was still stepped on it. Yeah. Anything he said, because at a time and he just put it out right after. People went from Family Matters to meet the Grams. Like, okay, we're going to listen to both of them. Okay. And then the following day, putting out a record for all of us to dance to,

steps on everything that Drake was trying to do. So I'm saying, I'm not here to argue with who rapped better. This is both two. elite rappers. You still have to argue about who rap decisions. You still have to argue about who rap better.

That's why it's a battle. Okay, so Maul, so Maul, you're saying I don't count Bired Alive Purity as an actual, I don't, nobody counts that, right? You're saying outside of family matters, because Family Matters is one record and I agree with you, I think that Family Matters

is one of the best records to come out of this whole thing. It's the best record in this whole being. I prefer euphoria, but I can understand it. I'll agree with you guys on that. Okay, fine. Family Matters is the best record. You're saying that on the heart part six, Drake outwrapped

Kendrick on Euphoria Absolutely Absolutely And this is not coming This is coming from niggas That really rap That's on my line saying shit Like it's not even close

It's not even close You can even rap on Hart Part 6 What? I'm not a pedophile I'm not a pedophile It's a least I know you got to get to I'm not a pedophile

It was a PR Tomorrow was like a glorified PR statement Drake wasn't rapping on the heart part 6 Yes So what is the matter? So what is the Decision about. Somebody answered with the marriage

saying he wasn't rapping. I didn't say he wasn't wrapping. I said, he said, I'm not a pedophile. I'm not a pedophile. I'm not a pedophile. That's not what he said. Which we already said.

I'm too rich to be a pedic. What did he say? Too famous, which was a famous. That plays it, that's their bag. Yeah. That's the prerequisite.

It doesn't get caught. That's yeah. That's what gets you in Ireland. Your hands. Your uncle is only one that gets caught. So you think Drake is a pedophile. No. I'm not.

See, that's the thing. I'm also not here to throw smut on either of their names. Okay. I'm only talking about the music. But I did want to real quick before we move on to the Hart Part 6 just to counter what Mall said. The effectiveness of Meet the Grams is look at if not like us followed Family Matters, I'd talk very differently about this battle because those two records aren't even family

matters washes. I think everything on this screen right now. Family matters. But Meet the Grams did what it did. It neutralized the fire and then you put out your club record. Family. It didn't. The fire, Heart Part 6 is right, it still is here.

With fire, are we right back to it? I don't think, I just, do you think Drake has more? Because it sounded like he's... Of course he has more, nigga. What the fuck are you talking about? He's the one that said that he was done. He said he's done. He said it.

And let's talk about this because I do, this is something I do want to address. When we talk about this, we have to talk about this from the perspective of the general population. Now I have Drake's phone number and I know this and I have this information and I have this information. I'm never speaking from that. No, no, no, no, no. I'm listening to music. We are. That nigger is not rapping better than Drake was rapping on Family Matters. That second verse. That 20V1, that 20V1

part of that Family Matters record where he's shooting at all of them niggas, that drill beat, that flow, everything he's saying in that shit. He is smashed these and why did he decide to shoot at all of them other people again when Kendrick has been on his ass and his ass alone? Because it's up with all you niggas. All you niggas that has something to say to me, don't think I forgot.

He's told you all them dinkies was in there. That started wasn't a surprise. Okay, but you already dissed them on pushups. You already gave them a bunch of a bunch of... And I got a lot more. And I got a ton more for you. I got a ton more for you. But you keep talking about how, oh, I'm mad that everybody else is jumping in.

Ross jumped in. I wasn't. No, no, that's not what I said. I said at that moment, I said at that moment, I would have had rather Ross. And you see, I played it. We don't even talk about that record no more. So clearly he could have kept that. When I'm saying it's in that moment, it would have been best of Ross.

Just played the meme game. This Drake on IG stories, post-ke. caps and all that, cool. Because that took kind of the momentum and the focus away from what everybody was here for. Everybody's here for what we have now. This moment, Drake and Kendrick. I'm not mad at Ross responding because Ross is the MC. Whenever a nigger say your name as an MC, you step right to it.

Like, oh, what he just said? I'm in the booth. I respect it. But just in the matter of the scope of what's going on here, it was like, damn, Ross, we could have just held that for till this was over and then we could have reconvened and got to that. That's all. But I'm not mad at it.

Ross from putting that out. He's an emce. He's supposed to stand behind his pen. I'm never mad at that. Just the timing of that. The same way y'all respect the timing of the, meet the grams. The time of the raw shit to me was just a little off. It was like we could have waited for that moment. But back to this situation at hand. Kendrick is a phenomenal MC. Phenomenal rapper. You'll never hear me say anything less about Kendrick. I fuck with Kendrick. Love Kendrick's music. But in this moment, in this battle, I'm just listening to what these two guys putting out. Now, Kendrick is putting out more songs or put out more verses or whatever

how you want to break it down. Maybe the timing of him putting out meet the grams after Family Matters. Cool, I get it. Great strategy. Step right on the fucking. Now, here's my record. Love it. But after we take all that away and we just sit down and listen to music, fuck the timing and when it dropped and when it dropped. Niggas is not going to tell me that Kendrick put out a better song or verse than Family Matters or the Heart Part 6. As good as not like us is, Great record. That's she going to go off in L.A. Every fucking day part, that's you're going to go off.

That don't mean that it's better than family matters. That don't mean that he's rapping better than him on Hart Part 6. You really like the Hart Part 6? Bro, the intricacies of that shit, you're talking about A minor, something B, playing the notes of A minor, B, D, D, Sharp, D major. Like, bro, that's what this shit is. It's showing skill. I'm listening to the music.

Even if this wasn't Drake and Kendrick, it was two dudes we never even heard of. This niggas putting out better bars and better songs than this other niggie. That's all I'm saying. Can you rap bad decisions, though? This is my problem with the heart part six. And even though I do think Drake is an elite battle-tested MC, he always ends up having to explain himself,

and that's the L's he takes. He goes and sits and talks about why he didn't reply to Pusher, complaining about he took it too far. Kendrick has ignored every single thing that has been said about him. That's why we keep ignoring it. Why is Drake giving us five minutes of? I'm not a pedophile. Why are you explaining yourself?

You're giving it more validity. Give me five minutes of that. And Kendrick put it in a place. He went into a whole reason why he's even choosing that angle. He went to talk about that part. Like, yo, why are you so heavy? Why are you trying to call me a pedophile? Like, you really stand in.

I was going to give to that point. He made a mistake with that too because Kendrick wasn't molested. And on that song that he's referring to, Kendrick says, I'm not molested. He literally says that I wasn't molested. Cool. The first thing I thought was, oh, what a great angle. But boy, did you fuck it up.

Like, we can't talk about who's lying when you could have just listened to the song and fact check what happened. You still could have actually had that angle that you're so pissed off that your mother was molested. You could have, that scheme is still a great reply. I'd like that. But he was wrong. You can't be this puppet master doing everything, but you guys forgot to check rap genius of that record. You guys were the masterminds of everything, but misread some lyrics on Mr. Morale. Yeah.

So that's a mistake, especially when you're calling people liars and your, lying at the same time. So that's the angle you're taking on that, but and then at the end... But you don't think that he fed him fake information and that he went with fake shit.

Probably. I think that whole Dennis Grand Shukeake thing is bullshit. I think the daughter thing. But yeah, that's a possibility that I could believe. Now, at the end, Drake, like we

don't have a short-term memory with this shit. For a whole week, you were baiting Kendrick to drop, which I was with, because you wrapped, let's get this guy back outside. He said he wanted to do,

do this. You can't go for a whole week harassing someone to drop. And then when they do, you go, yo, you burnt this shit out, man. Too much. Like, you asked for this. Why are you saying that at the end? Yeah, but he wrapped his ass off, but did the mistake that he did on the push of shit to stop explaining yourself with a bunch of other shit. Stop explaining to us why you hid your child in interviews. They forced Drake to always have to defend himself to make himself look more guilty. He's not good on the defensive. And if you look at what Kendrick has been doing this entire time, it's insane that nobody has said a word that Drake is tripling down that you beat the shit out of your wife. There's a high possibility that your business partner is the father of your kid.

Kendrick has ignored that with everything and either made therapy records or dance records. His strategy has smoked Drake's. Drake is really trying to smoke a Drake because he's not addressing what somebody's saying about it? It's a good strategy in a battle when everyone is focused on the faults of these people, and Drake is now explaining himself about it. And Kendrick's not even addressing it. It makes it look like that was such a crazy lie. Like, oh, Dave is not the father of my kid. I did not beat my wife.

Well, I'm not even addressing the shit. Oh, he didn't beat his wife. I don't know. We don't know. But the perception is Drake, to Roy's point in him on an echo. But y'all know that Drake didn't send that, didn't send that suitcase. Y'all don't know. We don't know.

We don't know. We don't know that. You just said that earlier. talking about what we believe. He said, I believe that this can happen. We don't know anything. We're not friends with these people. We don't know anything. We can go off of what we believe and what common sense time. I also believe in the power

of marketing and people that are on the team. I think it's very possible. Like I said earlier, that someone just got empty pill bottles. You make fake receipts. Like, why are we active? It's foe. Peage makes the most beautiful, elegant, chopped up photoshopps in two minutes for us every fucking Tuesday and Friday. These people have access to all these tools.

It's all about perception. Yeah. That's why I don't think someone from OVO ran to the embassy, grabbed a suitcase, flew to Dumbo, because obviously Kendrick's here in New York, it's not a fucking big deal, and he handed him a suitcase on the water and was like, here's all your information.

I don't think that happened. And if that is the case, because again, I do believe that there probably was a case where someone told him about a kid that didn't exist. Great fucking move on Drake's bat. That's art of war shit. That's fuck that. But that's talking about the music.

Do you really think Kendrick Lamar is taking a suitcase? You can tell you. This checks out. Who is who is rapping better? I personally. I think that Kendrick is rapping better. No, you don't. Yes, I do.

No, you do not. There we go. Yes, I do. I'm sorry. I do. You think Kendrick is rapping better? You think he's putting out better songs? I think Drake might put up.

The volume level of it. Yes. The volume level. Do you think, Julie, do you think that Kendrick is rapping better, he's putting out better songs? I think it's a toss-up. I think where it currently stands, well, are we, are we just talking lyrics?

or are we talking about the battle itself? I think this is like a great boxing fight where I reach fighters trading rounds. So right now, because I don't think the Hart Part 6 was great, I still think Kendrick's up, whatever the score is by one point. That's where I'm at with it. But I don't think drinks wash.

I'm also not going to be seated. He's up one point because he put out, Meet the Grams after he put out family matters. I just think in terms of the battle, the entire scope of the battle, Kendrick's up a point. That's it. I think a lot of it for me has to do with the Meet the Grams moment, but other than that, yeah.

And the fact that Meet the Grams can chop off or make equal in that round with Family Matters, which is Drake's nuke in the best shit. It splits the new, bro. It's like crazy. That record would have been amazing if Drake really does have a little thing. It was effective. It was so ineffective that Drake on the Heart Part 6 had to go, hey, everyone, do you remember that I said that he beat his wife and that Dave is the father?

That's how ineffective one of the best battle records was. Any jump on his Instagram story. Stop trying to explain yourself, Drake. Because he's telling you, y'all sitting here listening to fake made-up shit, I'm telling y'all some real shit. He's tripling down on, like, and this ain't made up. This is real. He posted this a minute.

And this is to Rory's point. Stop getting on the defensive. He posted this minutes after Meet the Grams came out in that whole. So what. Fucking rap about it. Stop defending. He did rap about it. Now y'all saying you maddy rap about it.

What the fuck of y'all talking about? Okay. Now, that's exactly what he did on the Hart Part six. He rapped about this niggas taking his fake information. I told y'all this on Family Matters when I said, you digging for dirt. You should be digging for proof. I got pictures of the fucking little girl all in the fucking video plaster on the wall. I'm fucking playing with this dumb nigga.

And he's going for it. I'm the most lit nigga in the game. Y'all mad and there's no skeletons in my closet. I'm not no fucking pedophile. That's the only thing y'all nicks know that can fucking end my run as me being a and it doesn't exist. Stop the bullshit. But you, Mr. Lamar,

you hit the girl because she's bigger than you. You put your hands on your girls. She's been engaged for years. You're not married yet. You living in New York. She's not. Let's talk real shit.

All this Alevio daughter shit y'all talking about because he released it right after the family matters is. It's a better record. Get the fuck out of here with that shit. We didn't say it was a better record. We said Family Matters is probably the best song in this whole shit.

It ain't no probably. niggas, the best record that's releasing this entire beef. Okay, even if you say that. We're really smashing on you. Okay. Good kid, Mad City van. I hit the latch and let the door slide,

nigga. I'm smashing y'all. They said that's the wrong van, though. That was a Dodge Pier van. Listen. That's nitpicking to me. Listen.

That's what niggas is going to. That's what niggas is going to do. I didn't even care about that. You're going to start. Yo, it's not the same tint. You know, it's not the same. Let me one second. Mom, he's smashing these niggis.

To what you. What's your point is... The band has 660 miles down there. Drake is not... That Drake is not a pedophile. How could you not be objective in the strategy that Kendrick Lamar put him in a corner where he had to explain to the world that he wasn't? You know how crazy you look explaining to the world that you're not a pedophile?

Bro, do you know how... He forced his hand. He had to... You think that was Drake's strategy? I think... From the beginning? Drake strategy... Drake strategy...

Drake strategy... Drake strategy is in any... It's a loser. lose. No, Drake's strategy is like what most fighters would do or most people in the battle do, you counter. Okay, well, he just said, all right, I'm smashing all that.

That shit is dumb shit. And Drake is one of the best offensive fighters. He's one of the worst defensive fighters. Thank you. He's not good at countering. He's the best at offense. He's not a good counter, maul. Because he gets too defensive.

Look what, look what happens. When Drake makes Kendrick counter... When Drake makes Kendrick counter... You know how fucking crazy up there? You never lost the argument once you start explaining yourself too much? Do you know how crazy y'all sound right now? Mall. The defensive person usually loses the conversation.

Thank you. Every time Kendrick responds to Drake. If somebody calls me a pedophile and puts it out to the world, you think I wouldn't fucking address that? Not an entire fucking record like this. If somebody calls you a pedophile, you're not coming on this podcast, say, yo, by the way, I'm not a pedophile. You're going to sit there and say, get the fuck out of that shit.

I'm not a person. No, I'm going to say, I'm not a pedophile, but who said it? Oh, no, nigga, but you, I'm not a pedophile, but you beat your girl, nigga. Yeah, that's what I would do. That's what I, y'all want to throw lies. I'm going to throw facts. You beat your girl. Okay, so I'm missing the part where you keep saying that that's

pedophilia. You keep saying that that's facts. Are you willing to put out? Sometimes I might not want to fuck your girl. Are you willing to put that out that you know for a fact that that's a fact? Because none of us allegedly know that. Are you a lawyer or something? You're trying to stick me on the stairs.

No, she has a point. We don't know. Who's telling truth at all. Says fucking who. Says who, ma'all. If you're not willing to say how you know it's a fact, now it's a fact. Well, let's just stay tuned because more is to come. Let's just stay tuned.

How about we do that? How about we stay tuned and just and to the Maris's point, I'm still under the impression where assuming everything's true from both parties, that's how we analyze all the stuff. I don't think it's fair to nitpick. Well, Drake said this. Therefore, so let's assume.

So let's say, say for the sake of argument, Drake's hiding a child and Kendrick beat his wife. Yeah. Now commence. That's kind of where I'm at with it. Like, everything's true.

Progressive times. The only, the only stain would be beating your wife. they could have some freaky weird relationship where Dave like that that'd be cool in these times

true and you see they're gonna say I got my cape on you this nigga just said it's cool if you're fucking manager fuck your girl

and has to beg you with it I don't agree with the progressive times have you heard me speaking in the podcast I mean Roy said they might all be fucking we don't know honestly this is sick

this is my thing with what you're saying with smashing right let's say that family matters is the best song it is it is polyonymous language gang. Everybody believes in that. Family Matters is the best song.

That's the piece answer. That's not the only song that he put out. So you're telling me that push-ups is also better than everything that Kendrick put out. You're telling me that the Heart Part 6 is also better than everything that Kendrick put out. You're telling me that with a straight-ass face. I think it's better than Meet the Grams and 616 in L.A. Okay, I'd agree with you on that. You only like... I don't think the Heart Part 6 is, but I agree that... The Heart Part 6, no, no, no. Y'all, trust me when I tell you. That is a very special disc record. Okay.

That record is going to age very well. So that's where I'll agree. I think that has the potential to be as super effective. As of now where it stands, I don't see it. It just came out last night. I hate it hearing it. I know, but what Julian is saying, if Drake has a follow up to that that is connected to the Hart Part 6,

then yes, it's a great strategy. The same way, I'm saying Family Meet the Grams wasn't the craziest thing, but how it worked within this whole scheme was perfect. Heart Part 6 could be that way. I don't know yet. But as of right now, it sounded like you were fluthing. You don't even like Meet the Grams.

Y'all just like the fact that he dropped it after Family Matters. Y'all not even saying y'all like the records. I like the Grams. Y'all don't. Yes. Yes. I like that record. I like that record.

I do. I think it's a fire Alchemist beat. I think it was a great strategy. You tell me about the beat. What you were just talking about. What Kendrick is saying, you like that shit? You was jacking that? You was jacking it sitting down reading out of his diary that's Ms.

Sandra and. Yeah. And they're talking to a daughter that doesn't exist? Yeah. Well, that part of the time I didn't know. That was fire to you? That was fire, right? Well, you can agree.

Conceptually, that's a great record. To address everyone in his family by name. Again, surface therapy shit. But in a battle, that's a great angle to take. Push took it and never really landed it because we were only focused on the kid thing. I like the, I like to me to finish that. If it was real, if that daughter's situation was real,

oh, I love that record. But when you were just saying shit, that ain't real, that when you was fed, it's like, all right, fan, that's like when fake jewelry, it's like, nigga, get out of here. But you don't think, that shit ain't dope. that watch chain is fake. That chain ain't, though.

It's fake. That's a fake chain you wear him. Get out of it. One thing now. Okay, but you don't think that was what Kendrick was doing with Drake's existence on Meet the Grants. All that fly shit that we like him when he does the gambling shit, when he's in Turks, when like all that shit, breaking that down to that being a problem of an insecure man. Again, I don't know him for real.

He may not be. But the perception. That's part of it. Did you take what you see somebody do and like, okay, he may have a gambling. So to break down all the issues. of the things we even deemed Drake to be fly about, getting all the women in the fucking world, always having bad bitches.

He tore that whole shit apart. Tore it apart. They're 37, 38. These aren't two 22-year-olds. A 37-year-old telling me, bro, stop paying for sex and Turks. You're awful with money. You need to really be around for your kids.

Whatever's true and what's not true doesn't really matter in a battle when you're going this angle. I thought it was genius. It makes you look at him differently I'm saying, oh, Drick has a gambling problem. You think that's fly. You think that's cool.

Like, oh, I like that. No, but I think right now... You beat your girl or your general manager might be your stepkids' father. And... Let's stay ground on this conversation. No, I don't think that's a fly thing. But do you think right now when online gambling is that it's fucking highest, and we know for a fact that we are going to have a million degenerate gamblers within five

fucking years, especially the younger kids? Yes, I think it's fly that Kendrick broke down how he could have. even gotten a gambling problem from his fucking pops bullshit. Like it's a perfect angle. Because state, what a genius thing for Drake to do? It's a highest thing. If Drake got a gambling problem as much money, I don't give a fuck about a game. Kendrick, are you putting your hands on that girl?

That's what I want to talk about. Don't tell me about a rich nigga having a gambling problem. I don't talk to me about a point of a seven-minute record. You don't stop. We're not going to sit up here and act like Drake give a fuck. You don't care about Mr. You don't care about Mr. Morales, beating women behind the scene. We are not going to sit up here and act like Drake give a fuck about.

about niggas hitting women when he shouted out Chris Brown on the same goddamn song. I'm asking you a question. I'm asking you a question. I'm asking you a simple question. It ain't about what I care about.

I'm talking about what these niggas care about. Don't make it seem like you give a fuck about domestic violence when you shot it out Chris Brown on the same song. You don't care. What we're talking about. In the scope of what we're talking about, you can't say it's dope

to attack somebody's quote unquote gambling addiction on one hand, but then don't be mad if somebody say oh, but I like the fact that if this is a domestic violence case that we have going on here. If he's abusing his fiance, that's not a dope angle to take

to expose that? You're trying to expose a gambling addiction. Great, it's gambling addiction. It's not harming anybody but myself. Okay, that's one small part because Kendrick... I'm just asking her questions from both times. Why not addressing that?

Kendrick is addressing Drake's culture of vulture ways and the way that he steals from the fucking culture. What did he steal? We're not talking about how he said... He's all of you niggis. Incool the niggins.

He's in a big boy. Nobody wanted to take that nigga on tour. The fuck of y'all, y'all can't, this is where it stops because y'all can't diss the nigga to help y'all. Yes, you can. And you look crazy. You look crazy. You look crazy dissing the nigga that then gave you. You look crazy. We did it.

We did it. Did what? And vice versa. Oh, my God. Who I did that? Two people went back and forth that helped each other. See, no. We helped that man.

He helped us. No, no, no. That man stole. It's a difference. It's a difference. Okay. So stop right there. Don't compare that.

Maybe Kendrick checked the touring account. Don't compare that. Don't compare that. We're not comparing that. We're not comparing that. We're not comparing that. Don't ever bring that nigger up in my presence. We're not talking about that. When I'm saying it's real shit, this nigga helped all of these niggas that's being in. Go find this shit. Don't make me sit here and look like I'm dick riding. Go look at all the interviews. These niggas are saying, yo, if it wasn't for homie,

if it wasn't for him, if it wasn't for him, I don't even know what, yo, yo, yo, you salute to the, I'm not, don't make me say it. These niggins said it. Kendry thank this nigger Rocky think this nigga Nick Ross think this nigga Nick Ross think this nigga now he don't write his rhymes Kanye said you

he wrote all my shit I wish I could have that nigga write all my records The Lord and Savior Kanye Your Lord and Savior All of a sudden I'm not now

No no no no I'm talking now All of a sudden I got to sit here And look like I'm some OVO Dick Rod and Drake caper nigger When I'm just presenting the facts He helped each and every one of these niggins You would have never knew who the fuck the Migos was

if Drake didn't remix Versace. What? Oh my God, bro. Now she's bouncing. These niggas was, so you, Damig's, oh, my God. The Migos was not lit like that until Drake remixed Vesachia. Of course he made them hotter. But why do you think he got on Versace, bro?

Why do you think he got on Versace? Oh, my God. Where are these niggas are now? You gotta stop. What are these niggas doing? Fight Night didn't come out right after. What are you talking about, man? What are y'all talking about?

You have Leior and Kev didn't argue at the Migo set up to be Damigo. Oh, now, now, niggas don't know, Set up niggas to beat them. Get the fuck out of here with that. You just said Drake did. So you don't think, okay, so listen, I'm never fighting against that Drake. I'm not saying them niggas wasn't hot.

I'm not saying they have a buzz in that land. I'm not saying that. Let's be real. Of course. But we're not going to act like when you put the Drake stamp on something. That shit don't turn it. That's target. That's getting your shit in charge.

But we're not going to act like Drake just puts his stamp on there for free because he's a charitable person. Come on now, bro. He benefits from shit too. And that's the point. He benefits from shit too. Vlad gives people a fucking platform to come on there. too. They call him a vulture.

All right, man. You got it. You said Drake's lad. No, I'm not saying that Drake is glad, but I'm saying just because you give somebody a platform doesn't mean that you're not also using them as well. Let's address that. All right, but can we look at this can we look at the scope of things? Who needs who? Neither of them

need each other at this point in their careers. Who needs who? What? Kendrick does not need Drake and Greg does not need Kendrick. I'm not talking about Kendrick. I'm not talking about Kendrick. It's other niggas. It's other niggas that's involved in this. Oh, all right. We're back to old shit. We're talking about the beef.

We're focused on Drake and Kendrick. I don't give a fuck about Metro, even though I thought it was funny that he did the beat contest shit. Funny, whatever. I don't care about Metro. I don't care about Rocky. I don't care about Ross.

I'm glad he's safe. And I, like, that's crazy that after saying that plain shit, karma's fucking nuts. Yeah, be careful. I don't care about that shit. The same way you said champagne moments or whatever that shit was called came and went.

Of course he did. Because nobody cares. It was funny for the day. we're just focused on Kendrick and Drake and that was even though Family Matters was the best I think someone of a mistake too after Euphoria and 616 in LA the first thing you start talking about for the first minute

and a half is other people we hear for you and Kendrick bro I know you probably had that verse for a long time Yeah that's why the whole first verse The family matters is to Kendrick It's the second one of days Dave and then but Borroy we know that was gun Who's the first verse too?

Metro weekend He kind of named him He has a line to you about them niggas One line. No, it's a whole, it's actually a majority about weekends. The first one. And then the second one is about Rocky and then get on to smoke. Let's do a lyrical breakdown.

I'm always pro-lyrical breakdown for Family Matters for the first verse. Also, I think Rocky actually- Don't put that next record out, yes? Because I'm not talking about this or you anymore again in my life. My nigga, all right, peace. You did what Ross used to do in the videos when he'd hold his phone up and you could see that you can see all the apps? I mean, because it's just, at this point, it's like it don't even...

Wait, did that just happen or am I to just... He's being funny. All right. No. I didn't know. If you had a said, they give your ass a DP, but you civilian gang, in real life, you PC. You know who really bang a set, my nigga, YG. You know who really bang a set, my nigga Chugty.

Yes. You said it was all about Kendrick. Y'all arguing about that. So, live for line. But Metro slime, niggas for his main squeeze. I'll hear back for attention. Niggas say, please. And then back to Kendrick, always.

rapping like you about to get the slaves free, you're just acting like an activist is make-believe. I think that with the angle that Kendrick came at Drake with, I think he should have left that line out. Why? Because it allowed Kendrick to reply back and say, look at him doubling down on not freeing the slaves.

It allows to set up. That's not what he said. You see how people will text you just said and turn it to the stuff. Welcome to a rap battle. Great fucking move, Kendrick. Oh, my God. Now that's a great move. He just said he's rapping like, you're just acting like an activist. It's make believe that.

You're not really like that. That's what he said. It has nothing to do with slaves being freed. He's saying this nigga that's acting like this dude, that that's what he's all about. He's not like that. So can you be objective and say Kendrick was great in taking that bar and showing another side of it?

That actually landed. That actually landed when Kendrick said it. It's a little different. And I'm going to stay out of like the mixed kids situation, but there was a lot of mistakes and stuff that Drake was saying when he's saying that Kendrick is the liar. Both of your kids aren't light skin to go play in the park. Like there's just certain stuff that doesn't land,

especially when you're trying to call someone a liar and you're lying. But you could say the same for Kendrick as well. That's where I'm being objective. We don't know either side outside of some of the facts. Just go listen to Mother I'm sober. That's not what happened. Any of this mixed back and forth thing, whatever.

We know we've seen all your kids. I'm still, well, Julian said he's kind of on the fence about who's. I do want to add something. No, you said Kendrick is up one. I think he's up one, but I wanted to add something that Mall just kind of alluded to when we were talking about don't act like an activist. Activist's make believe. I really think ultimately outside of this battle, Kendrick's the loser here. Because we're, he's exposing himself to a level that he usually doesn't.

He doesn't, when he speaks about himself, he wants the grace. He always looks at himself with like this divinity of like, I'm this Christ-like figure and I can atone for my sins. But when it comes to you... The whole last album was I'm not your savior. I'm a piece of shit. But he's been tripling down on that concept for how many times, but at the same time attacking Drake for like the same thing.

Yeah, I mean, that's a rap battle. So I think like I just think like the hippocity. No, I know. I'm saying I think like the hypocrisy. That's why I'm saying all of this shit aside. Cool, we can sit here and debate bars and who said what and who did what. I'm just talking about the music that we have been given, the songs that we have been given, you're telling me that you feel like Kendrick has rap better and put out better songs than Drake.

Better songs in totality, yes. I could think that Family Matters is the best one, but through this whole week, Kendrick has put out better music and more effective music. If Drake had an anthem through the weekend calling Kendrick Lamar a pedophile and everyone was two stepping to it, you would say it was the greatest thing on earth. Look what Drake did. He made everyone dance to you being a pedophile. You can't even walk outside. Because anytime we're at a party, someone's going to play a song that's about you being a pedophile and we're going to sing along to it.

You would say if Drake did that to Kendrick, that would be the greatest dish shit ever. You would say that. Kendrick is also just more entertaining. Like, euphoria is like very entertaining. I'm laughing when I'm listening to Euphoria. That when I see you standing with something. sexy red, I believe you see two bad bitches line. It's fucking hilarious.

It's showing like personality. Yes, we know Kendrick can rap. We know Drake can rap. Like, it's up for debate who you think can rap better. But like, who's in this whole battle in this show? Who's entertaining me? Kendrick is entertaining the fuck out of me. Having people crippwalk to a dance fucking, I mean, to a disc record, is entertaining.

So there's different levels. There's strategy. There's entertainment factor. There's bars. There's how the music actually hits. Yes, of course, Drake's music will always, his music will always hit better because he is a pop star

he's an all-around music artist the way that he does shit it will always be more palatable And now he's a pop star? Drake has always been a pop star That's not what you told me last month No I told you Chris Brown wasn't a pop star Drake is not a pop star

I never said that I don't remember I'll pay somebody to find that on a recording I never said that I've been Drake is not a pop star What is he said what is he? Find the tape

I've been saying Drake is a pop star for the long view No you have not Okay, Mom. Well, maybe you just heard me. It's okay. I was like, yo, is Drake a pop star? He's like, yes, he's a pop star.

I never said that. I never said he wasn't and I couldn't believe she said. I don't remember. Chris Brown wasn't a pop star. No, no, no. Trust me. I'm one million percent sure. You said Drake is not a pop star.

And I was like, what? Okay. How was he not a pop star? No, I'm just saying what you said. Okay. I'm just saying what you said. Maybe you miss heard. No, I'm telling you what I said.

Maybe you misheard me, but we can move on. Somebody going to find a clip and they'll post it. We can move on. But you definitely said that. Do you think Kendrick showed so much more range? Because you want to talk about rapping in the music. Do you think Kendrick showed actual range in this battle versus Drake? Range as far as what?

Family Matters, which is great, is just like push-ups. Matter of fact, it's coming off push-ups. It's almost the same record just on steroids. Heart Part 6, cool, great beat, great rapping, but you're waving the white flag and you can hear the frustration in the voice. It made you change your entire opinion from going drop, drop, drop to, hey, you're doing too much dropping. So that's an L. If you go through all these records from like that to Euphoria to 616 L.A. to meet the grams to not like us, none of those

records sound the same at all. It's the widest range I've ever seen in the amount of time in any disbattle ever. 616, so full of shit. Not like us is a hit. Family Matters is rapping therapy shit. I mean, Meet the Grams. Euphoria is in the car, in the car, jamming record. Yeah, but that's not, I mean, these are two of the best that we have. I know, but I'm going to your point of you asked me when it comes to the rapping and the music, fuck all like the timeline or what's true and what's not true.

Who's rapping and who is putting out the better records? Kendrick Lamar checked every fucking box sonically that you could think of. And checked every box content-wise, flow-wise, what type of song we're getting. car records, club records, shit in the crib. Like, he went nuts in one week. And Drake didn't do that? We got family matters,

which to me again is just part two of push-ups. Same shit. And then the heart part six of him just explaining himself about not being a pedophile. The Rams and 616 in L.A. is kind of similar to me. How? It's the same type of fucking music. 616 in L.A. is a soulful joint.

You could walk around the C. city to that song. You're writing a car of that song. Meet the Grams is like some misdemeorral therapy shit that you like listen to alone, which is an important part of it. The same type of record, bro. It's the same type of record. If you're going to say if you're going to say

pushups and Family Matters is the same record, Meet the Grams at 616 at LA is the same record. I won't argue with him about that. I get what he says. It's the same record. I tweeted this before Meet the Grams came out. I always thought 616 in NLA

LA was just the, was the penultimate before the ultimate hit, which was Meet the Grimes. I think it was a setup. It was a bait to get

Drake to drop. And not only to the, to the strategy itself, but also to the artwork itself. It's just a zoomed in version of what ultimately is the bigger picture. It's a better version of,

of the Taylor Made freestyle. Like, here's something in between to just try to bait you. Yeah. But still a fire beat and a great setup if you want to go with rapping from Euphoria.

Back to back. I like that record. I'll get back. to that later, then sampled back to back the next day. Like, to me, that's great rapping. Yeah, I was tired. Do you think Taylor May can sit with any of Kendrick songs? I think that'd be unfair to Drake, because, like I said,

I think that was more of a funny troll. That was like memes to me. I don't count that one. Yeah, I think that's unfair to put it next to anything. Same with the Barry Live parody. Like, that was just a funny IG thing to promote the record. I don't really count those. So you really think it's not one-sided right now?

Right now. He said he thinks Drake is smashing. Those are his exact words. I think he's out rapping and making better songs than Kendrick. I don't think it's, I mean, I respect Kendrick dropping the way he's dropping. And I love it. Listen, as a fan, as a consumer, I love this shit. Oh, this is great show.

Yeah, I'm sitting here listening to it like, cool. But you're not going to sit here and tell me those are better songs what Drake has put out. Like, no. Do you think it's good records, but they're not better. than that family matters record and then that like I said I don't know maybe I didn't listen to it enough and didn't live

with it. That hard part six shit bro that's one of the best disc records we've heard in a very long time. I think you were in the bathroom out there I said to Demaris and Julian this is my favorite type of Drake. This is elite level rapping Drake but he's doing it for the wrong reason.

He's accepting the L he sounded frustrated. He's over explaining himself. Remember I told you that bar on Scorpion that I fucking hate when he's like, my daddy dresses himself. Like, why are you even like explaining yourself on certain things? And of course, your dad, how he dresses in pedophilia is different. But if Drake knows he's not a pedophile, why are we doing this?

And that speaks to Kendrick putting him in that corner where if he doesn't explain himself, it looks like it's true. If he over explains himself, he looks even more guilty. So he can't win no matter what. That's why it was a good strategy. It puts you in a box where you're in a lose-lose with a. reply or not reply. That's a good strategy. It all comes down to people like who they like

no matter what. Truth, lies, no matter what it is, you're going to like who you want to like. See, you are correct and that's what kind of sucks about battle wrap now because if you go on the timeline, everyone made up their mind of who they thought was better in this battle before it started. I'd like to think

we can be objective in this room. I listen to more Drake than I do Kendrick Lamar. But objectively right now, I think Kendrick Lamar is winning. And within this battle, there have been moments where I thought Drake was winning. Like I said, I think it's a round to round basis. Drake can go up next time

he drops. Kendrick also can go up. It's just, I've been on both sides. When we left the city before break, Drake was up. Yeah. As straight said, I didn't give a fuck about what Kendrick had. I was like, Drake won already. Like, I don't like how long you took to respond to everything. It was like, this

isn't going to do it. Brick won. And then he dropped 616 in L.A. And then everything else happened. And we're like, oh, yeah, my opinion's changed. because even after that seven... Family Matters came after 616. Yeah. Yeah, yeah.

I'm saying like when we, DeMaris and I were still in New York when Euphoria dropped and we were like, you guys were MIA and we were like, let's just go on live and just talk about this. And in that, we had both agreed that this isn't going to, Drake is still up.

We loved Euphoria, but we were still like, Drake is still up. It was cool, but yeah. Because it took, just because it took so long, had Euphoria come smashed after push-ups, I look at it a little differently. Being that it took so long, long. I'm like, oh, this is what you can't take so long to do just this. But then with a

follow-ups, it's like, oh, that's why you took so long because you had a strategy before this, which did change our minds. We're not fucking Kendrick Lamar fans. I've said on every platform possible, I hate the way Kendrick Lamar raps. I hate the sound of his fucking voice. Same. I hate his voice. I hate his voice. And I will not listen to him again simply because I hate the sound of his voice. It does not take away from the talent and the strategy that he's exuded in this battle. Again, I was half joking when seven minutes later when Meet the Grants came out, I was like, yo, family matters is done.

I still thought there was a little bit of hope until the next day when not like us came after he did a seven minute therapy session on Drake, stepped on the record, and then just gave us the weekend fucking number one single. He's like, now go Crip-Wark to this, bitch. That is strategy. Like, you have to be objective

in seeing how great that is. No, I love the strategy, but I'm just saying, again, I keep posing the question. strategy aside, all of that shit aside. I'm just talking about the music, the bars. That's what I'm here to talk to. Strategy, cool. So you don't like the bars and meet the grounds?

Even if you disagree and think that he's gaslighting and it's not true, and the third verse possibly could have just been fed. There is like four other verses on that song. Yeah, but I don't think any of those verses is better than what he did on Family Matters. And I definitely don't think any of those verses are better than what he did on a hard part six. at all. At all. I don't know, man.

Like, that's just me. And I fuck with Kendra. He rap his ass off. But I'm just talking about in this, those bars, I'm going to go back to what, and listen to what Drake was saying more than I'm going to go back to what Kendra was saying.

He's just rapping better. To step outside of the music really quickly, I've been equally as critical of the, not only the hip-hop media landscape, but just like the general fan. landscape, like on Twitter, socials, etc. How do you guys feel? Because I know so much of the narratives and stuff

get spun and kind of catch fire on Twitter. I didn't be curious of what you guys think of all, like, the commentary or the back and forth or like the lines that people pick out or the things that people seem to hone in on and the type of people that gravitate towards Kendrick versus the type of people that gravitate towards Drake. That's kind of like my biggest point of contention. I guess what I'm saying, I hate the ultra-uber-liber liberal.

I'm so smart. Like, I read every fucking night. I love Malcolm Gladwell. Kendrick's obviously the better person here. Like, I'm very annoyed with the Kendrick fan base. Oh, God. It's like the, it's like that conversation we had on Patreon about like when a white person sees a black person

gets disrespected in front of their black friend and they feel the need to like go up in arms over something they have nothing to do. That's how I look at a lot of Kendrick fans. And it annoys the shit out of me because I do like Kendra. And I think there's, again, I think this whole beef is a toss up. But the fans put me off so much that it's really. hard for me to root for people that like him. But that's why I don't really pay attention

to what social media is saying. Like when Jay and Nas was beefing, I didn't know what niggas in Atlanta felt about that. But I was different times. You only knew like your immediate circle. Yeah, like I can't go to Parsons Boulevard now. That's all I was concerned about. Like it's lit.

But like this battle, everybody seemingly from both sides and all over have a voice. And they can voice their opinion and they can say how they feel about it. But we all know there's certain reasons why they may say that, which is, okay, that's fine. Like, this is all, and at the end of the day, this is all subjective.

This is music. Of course, yeah. It's like, it's all how, how you receive the music and all of that. I'm just speaking from me and, you know, people that do this at a high level, I don't have many conversations with these niggas, but in the last couple days, I'm like, oh, okay, so I'm not the only one that's hearing this the way I'm hearing this. And I'm not the only one that's seeing this the way I'm seeing this. But it feels like it because, like you said,

a lot of Kendrick's fans have been so loud and so like in your face the last couple of days where it's like, all right, whatever you feel. It's just the elitism. It's the elitism that comes with being a Kendrick fan. It's like the same, it echoes the same way I feel about Eminem fans. Like, you just don't get it. Just shut the fuck up. Well, you're a Cole fan, and that's how Cole fans act too.

I don't think Cole fans act like that. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, cold fans act like that. And another thing, why is niggas, oh, I get Y, Cole. That's not somebody to, you know, Alex Lee this, Alan. That's not, Alan, bleep this. And not now, but just like, when you got to clean up. Take the time, see where we at. 64-02.

What's so with these as cold fans, bro? Now, I understand why Cole, why he now, I get it. What? You want to have a viral tweet? No, we're going to use it. He can try to bleat what I said, but. Okay, cool. But cleaning this up.

Yeah, of course, Cole fans, they were getting murdered for a whole week. Now they can take a new angle. The irony of this entire thing is the master. manipulator shit that Kendrick is saying. Because that's all battle rap is. Kendrick is trying to manipulate the world about how they view Drake, and Drake is trying to do the same thing with Kendrick.

And to your point, I'm glad you brought up with the Jay and Nas, like we didn't know what everyone thought. That's where I give credit to both of these gentlemen. The master manipulation they do on top of the records, whether it be with the bots on fucking Twitter, whether it be with speaking to certain bloggers, whether it be to put narratives online, whether they put out fake memes of their triple entendres

so they're easier to understand to the public is master manipulation. And they deserve credit for that. With Jay and Nas, I mean what? It was a hot 97 poll that the DJs voted on. It's like, what the fuck? Tom's so much simpler back there. Yeah, all you needed to call into the radio station.

Cool and G Flex. Enough. This is how we're going. This one gentleman from Queens is calling in. Jay one. We got somebody from Brownsville. You know, fuck, nah. That's all the ones.

Now it's like, oh my God. That's why I think it's so funny of both of them trying to say who's more of a manipulator. And even to Julian's point two of Kendrick maybe being like the fake activists, that it's, they're both manipulated. They're both assholes. They're trying to manipulate the fan base to view the other person good and me bad. Like, it's all manipulation. Remember when Cole bowed out and I said the reason why I think Cole bowed out and the reason why I think it's respectable that he did is when you enter a beef, you're inviting all the mess that comes with it because you're no longer have your PR team and the people you love. So, Cole, what the fuck you hide?

Everyone's hiding stuff. Which you scared of? We're never going to find out because he stepped out. What you're scared of? It's smart that he did that. Fuck it. I said, the last line I said, it's sometimes you can't unring a bell. Sometimes you want to live in the lie.

Cole chose to live in the lie. He said, deuses, I'm out. He healed. He healed. And remember I said on this pod. He said he healed? I was joking because that's what the Cole fans were saying on. Don't tell me that again.

Don't say that in my presence. He's healed. No, he's not. He's scared. And the Cole fans are now trying to manipulate the world because they had their day on the timeline where they were getting killed and on defense. Now they're trying to manipulate the situation from the Dreamville side. I'm not saying Dreamville.

They're fans. To be like, see, look, our savior would never do this. Look at all this back and forth. messy shit of who B-2. Even though I did say on this podcast, and am I putting anything on Cole's jacket? No one really brought up the other part he said on that stage.

It reminded me of when I was moving terribly 10 years ago. Yeah. I'm not exposing anything. He said that on stage. I'm cool. Yeah. And I don't have any information.

I just think that Drake talked to Cole about the Dave Free shit and Cole said, oh, that's where you're all about to take this? We're not just rapping his friends? I'm gonna go on stage right now. Yeah.

Yo, stay right here. And now look, three weeks later, what's every time you hit refresh and you see Cole's name mentioned, what is it? It's right after one of these guys drop a disc and it's Cole, some guy waking up with a deep stretch,

making coffee, going on a bike ride, like Jay Cole right now, all y'all favorites are arguing, Cole right now, and that's exactly the place he wanted to live in. Ma, I remember you saying, it's just, I remember you saying, he dropped a disc record.

I remember you saying, that's why I sent on a plate. You answered the ring. Listen, no, no, no, no, I'm going to say this, because I love Cole and I love those guys at Dreamfield. But y'all, y'all going to make me start saying shit on this show where people are going to start. Yeah. I apologize.

We just started healing with them. I apologize for what I said, you know what I'm saying? And it came across wrong because I love Cole and I don't want to be disrespectful to Cole. But I do not respect that shit he did. I don't give a fuck with nobody's talking about. I still stand by that. That shit he did was crazy. Getting the ring and then.

But Jay Cole is a good. He's a good dude and I love him. I support him. But I just can't defend him in the barbershops. No, that's all. I get that. But just off of, to get off of that, but just piggybacking off of what you originally said when you said, hey, this is just, it's just rap. Nobody's going to fight.

Nobody's going to do this. It's just rap. I don't understand what he's scared of. Hold on. There are worse things than getting shot or getting your ass beat. There are worse things than getting shot and get your ass beat. Shit like your kid being exposed for not being your kid is worse than getting shot or getting your ass beat. So if there are, shit.

No, it ain't. I know a few niggas that been shot. They'll tell you. I do want to say that. That shit burned like a motherfucker. I will say this. If that is true that that is not his son and that's Dave's son,

and you did a double disc of therapy and never just happened to bring up that your man's impregnated your girl and you're raising his kid. Mr. Moran would be the worst album in the world to me. Well, according to Drake,

he's not raising him. He hasn't seen him in six months. According to Drake. Okay. Again, who knows if that's true? I don't know. Yeah, no one knows that. Because, again, it's like the, where's the photos of the two of you?

What, shut up. Like, that means it's smart, though, but it means nothing. But then, oh, you're not following your fiance. Hold on. It means nothing. Anybody in a healthy relationship will tell you, y'all don't follow each other on social media. A lot of your favorite rappers don't follow their girls.

But you follow my man who might be your baby father. But see, she's still in his life. According to the gossip that might be a baby father, according to their actual life, if that's not true, that's just your manager. I think, I'm pretty sure Kia follows you and don't follow Rory. Just recently started. I don't even know, well, I didn't even know Kia had an Instagram.

Thank God. Because I'd look from like four years ago, see money bags on it like, stop, stop. No, I'm saying I haven't seen that. Oh, yeah, I'm about saying, no, I haven't. Yo, correct. But I may be nitpicking here. Do we think Kendrick even has the password to his Instagram?

Why does she need to follow Kendrick Lamar? It means nothing. That means nothing. A social media follow carries no weight. that carries no weight. It doesn't. When you're that big of a... Soon as somebody will follow somebody,

you're ready to talk about it. Now it doesn't carry... Now it doesn't carry no weight. But as soon as two artists that's beefing and somebody unfollow somebody, you're like, oh shit, they don't follow them. You, that's shit that you actively want to talk about. She was probably never following that man.

That's my point. He's not on there posting his breakfast in his avocado toast or him at the strip club. They're posting, it's like follow. He might, she might as well follow the label. It's them posting, Yeah, it's marketing shit. It's assets from a fucking label.

Yeah, but you know, aesthetically, you know how it looks. Because like I said, when somebody unfollow somebody, blogs is right on it. Do we know that she ever followed him? I don't know shit. There's a difference between never following somebody and unfollowing. I'm just saying we're not going to act like, oh, it's not a big deal that she's not following. No, it is. It is.

Because you niggas have sat here and made big deals when people unfollow people before. Why is that the focus? I'm not even trying to like refute what you're saying. Why are we focusing on that? They literally split up. Homie, it lives in Dumbo. and they just sold her home. That's the important information.

Who gives a fuck about a social media follow? No, no. What? No, it's more to it than that. That might be his man's kid, bro. Stay full. No, but I know. But I'm saying in terms of Kendrick and Whitney's relationship,

we're talking about a follow on Instagram. I'm talking about they literally split up and he now lives in New York. I mean, the only thing in there is beating your wife, which I do think Kendrick does need to address. They were never married. So that means he can still, yo, no, no, I'm just saying.

We keep calling her wife. They were never married. I'm not excusing him. I'm not excusing him hitting her. I don't like to say baby mother or fiance or partner, child partner. That's why I saw Drake fans that was, I think, acting the same way annoying Kendrick fans were. They were like trying to prove that they split up. And it's like, okay, we've never seen a rapper and his girl breakup.

Yeah, like, I don't care about the breakup. And he said in Mr. Morrell, at the end, by the time you hear this, Whitney's gone. She did all she could. That's a bar in the album. that's why I think it's so funny when Kendrick did say early, I think it was in euphoria oh you're gonna get a bunch of shit you heard from Mr. Morrell

like I've admitted a lot of the stuff you're about to say and now Drake fans for the first time ever are going back to that album and spreading false shit like he didn't say on that album that they were divorced or broken up. That's not crazy that he moved to New York no I don't care about that. That's, I'm good for a way of Kendrick. But I'm saying that's not really a stat in this Bad, I don't think that landed the way Drake thought it would.

Now, speaking of Cole, I do have a question for you. It's not a comparable thing. But it seemed like perception-wise that Drake was waving the white flag at the end of Hart Part 6. I don't think that's what he was doing. I just think it's the- It feels coalish as far as, you know, I've been begging for you to drop and then you drop and then I say it's burnt out. Don't do that. Don't do that.

You did what I asked you to do and now I don't want to do it. Do not all of a sudden start trying to bring Cole and what he did in this and make it seem like it's valid. I said they're not very comparable because Cole completely. It's not comparable at all. It's not comparable at all. Okay, let me finish. Did you think about it, Cole one? Let me finish. Can Drake still talk the same greasy shit if he really does bow out of this?

And the last one is Hart Part 6. And at the end, he says, yo, I'm burnt out. Like, it's whatever, man. Like, it's cool. It's not, no, see, I can dance to that. Why are you doing that? I'm quoting them. But Damaris said the same thing in our group text.

She said, yo, I'm over this shit. I think a lot of people felt like this. Like, all right, Brian. Y'all, y'all, y'all, y'all, fam, I can't keep. But Damaris is not Drake, who for an entire week, was begging Kendrick to let the clip go. Yo, I know you got 10 records. Start dropping him.

Let's go. Let's go. And then he does. And three days later, you're like, yo, this shit burnt out, bro. But people, the fans are starting to go like that. Because that's controlling the narrative. Because now when Kendrick...

To me, that's like calling the chick. And when she doesn't give you her number, you say, fuck you bitch. I don't want you anyways. That's exactly what it sounds like. That guy on the beach. But you, but you, now you sound like you're trying to blame or you're trying to fault Drake fulfilling the way the fans.

are feeling. Because plenty of people in our group texts have said the same shit. We ain't going to say no names. You all right, I'm done with this shit. I'm over with this shit. I'm done with this. I don't know. This is great. Yeah. Again, people are starting to feel like, because now it's to this point. How much longer does this go back and forth? Because I think that's what Drake is alluded to. Like, fam, all right, you want to drop two records

after I drop one and then I drop one. You drop another one. It's like, all right, cool. Where are we going with this shit? Like, how much longer do we have to do this? Because at this rate, this shit is going to become corny very fast. You can't get mad because your opponent that you were calling out to fight wants to keep fighting. No, I'm not saying, I'm not saying get mad.

I'm just saying at the rate that this is going. You put out four records to my, I guess, too. It was an exhausting week. It's like, all right, bro, like, all right, so because now it's like, so what, I got to, I got to drop three more to account for the four that you dropped, like, for niggas to try to like, who won this round and this record, the versus this record against this record. than that. I just think we're getting

like, what are we doing? We're getting into union penalties amongst the recording engineers and producers. I just think they need to go see their families because it's been 10 days. I think this is going to continue.

Even though it sounded like Drake was waving the white flag, he did that after push and shouted him for another three years. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. I don't think it's over. I just think it's just, it didn't, it's not playing out as far as like

the songs. Like, all right, so just think I got to, you, because one of those songs could have, one, two of those songs could have been one song. You could have took those last two verses and added it to that song you just dropped. But fuck it, it looks better if it's a whole new drop. Yeah, strategy.

Yeah, I get it. But it's like, all right, so how much longer is this supposed to, because that's what I think Drake was ultimately saying, not waving a white flag. Like, yo, you stepping on me out. Yo, you got it. No. He's saying, like, fam, so what I got to do? I got to put out three more joints, four more records,

and then you're going to drop three more than how much longer is this just supposed to go on? I mean, it's only been a week. And we've got more records out of this week and this rat beef than probably any rat beef. I'm not one of the people that is tired of this. I'm not tired of it, but I just know that if we have another, we can't have another week like this. Five songs in 48 hours, six if you want to include the parody record.

We can't do that. But that's also because both of them were doing the same thing they did on first person shooter, which is now public information. that we had known about, that he wanted Kendrick on there, and they were playing the fucking double-dutch game of who was going to send whose verse, and then it just ended up not working. They've all been sitting on these records.

I think outside of Hart Part 6 and changing certain bars on Not Like Us or Meet the Grams to make it feel relevant, they've been sitting on this waiting to let the clips go, back to back to back. I don't think this was them running back to the studio except to change a few bars around. And the Hart Part 6, I think, might be the only, original record from this week. I think they've had these choices.

I felt like that was like recent. That I think is the only one. So even though it looks exhausting. It would have to be. It looks exhausting, but they're just hitting upload. I think it's going to take. It's not just upload because the Harpard 6th, like you said, it's addressing shit that he said and meet the Graham. So that would have to happen.

That's the only one. That's the only one that was new recorded this week. I'm saying Kendrick was dancing all week because all he had to do was hit upload at the right time. Because remember, if you guys remember on the timeline from, I guess the people that were speaking to, Kendrick at the time. As soon as Kendrick put out, what was his first one? The euphoria, they said, oh, that's not all of it. He recorded a

19 minute record. This is just part of it. So then, like we say, just chopped it into sections that best fit. He cutting that dope up. I don't know what that is. I'm not mad at that. But Drake did the same thing. I think Family Matters. Like I said, I think it's part two of pushups. It is. It's the same beat. I think he just went in there

and changed a few bars and then did some of that third verse. But I think those have been, and the Rocky one, I think he did in real time. So I think we're going to get a little bit of a break because I think everybody needs to go back. Relo. Relo.

And this is my only, like, my real fault to Drake and strategy. He has been talking about Kendrick having 10 records for a month that you've been working on this for four years, let the clip go, and then he acts surprise when the clip is let go. And also, if you're this master strategist, if you knew he had 10 records, why didn't you? I'm not recording no 10 records to go at your 10 records,

Nick, what the... I'm gonna say what I gotta say, I'm gonna drop mods. I don't care how many more you drop, nigga. Like, I'm smashing you and I'm out of that. I'm going on vacation, my day. I'm not fin to sit here and do this with you for 19... The Heart Part 27. Like, get the fuck out of it.

I really thought that Kendrick was about to drop the heart part six, like the real Heart Part 6, a few minutes after, and it not even be a dude. this record. So Kendrick can never... He can never drop that. Yes, he can.

Yes, he can. Yes, he can. Really? Mm-hmm. Okay. Matter of fact, and title it, the heart part six?

Yeah, matter of fact, I think it's gonna make Drake's version look even crazier. Yeah, I think Drake stuck his chin out with that one. Stuck, no, the only person that's stuck their chin out is Jameen. Yeah, he's doing all right. No, he tucks his chin back in.

Oh, well, now. He stuck it out on that. So, okay, so just hypothetically speaking, because who knows by the time this shit comes out. Jesus Christ. Say Kendrick replies. Drake has to reply. No, he doesn't.

Drake don't got to do shit. But he's going to reply. But I think the competitive nature in him, he will reply. Because I don't, I think there's also. But this is what I'm saying. How much longer does that go on? I'm good. I wanted to end.

I'm cool. I'm cool. The best thing for Drake would be for Kendrick to continue. because if Kendrick does not address anything that Drake has said and still continues to rap, he could start to look a little fucking crazy. Like, all right, this is fun.

I like dancing to the pedophile anthem. Fuck pedophiles. This is great. But you keep rapping and you still have not really told us about what the fuck is going on with the Dave shit. And if you beat your wife, then this is a whole different conversation. So what have we learned about these two gentlemen

throughout this beef? They're both pieces of shit. So we learned that Drake got a nose job. Oh, I mean, I don't know. Everybody knew Drake had a nose job. Everybody knew Drake, uh, was got ab surgery. How do you say, what do you mean everybody knew Drake got a nose job? You think Drake got a nose job?

I don't know. I don't know about that. I don't know about that one. She just said everybody. It's like, everybody got, okay. Okay, when I say everybody knew, you know what, that was wrong on my part. People had already been saying that Drake got a nose job. People had been saying that Drake got a nose job.

People have been saying that Drake got his abs down. Can he be prescribed ozimic? I thought you have to be like, seriously, like, either diabetic or obese to get OZPic. No, the new thing now is, it's for, it's illegally being used for weight loss. And, I mean, listen, everyone out here... When Drake was never know fat, like, what did it?

Everyone out here is cos-playing diabetics, and my mother would like a word. She's just crazy. Yeah, I know. You guys are diabetic-cultural. I just think it's funny that you, I think a nigga that was not fat and not diabetic was on Ozimic.

What did raise my eyebrows to Kendrick possibly being a bit of a liar? I don't know a lot about plastic surgery. I think it's safe to say Drake probably did get his stomach done. But if you get plastic surgery, why would you also need that weight loss drug? You got lipo.

What fuck do you need osemic for it? You never seen a bitch that got lipo and then she got fat again? Lipo doesn't guarantee that you stay fat. Yeah, but Drake was never fat. I mean, stay skinny. And also somebody that does 80... 80 shows in a fucking year.

Like, I'm going to go ahead and say Drake is in shape. Hey, look. I don't give a fuck. I don't think he needs weight loss bills. I don't care what these niggas do after today. I am never talking about these niggas again, bro. I'm done. So you don't think that Drake got his stomach down?

No, fuck no. Oh, ma. It should be a fuck no. You know what? He's not. I think he did. And I also don't care. That's the thing.

I don't care. Drink is not a fat, sloppy out of shape. It's not about being fat. Sloppy. They're saying he got abs sketching. He did, he did pop up with the surgery belly bones. Rocks is with him every day of his life. His trainer.

Every day these niggins is in the gym. And every... And every... Burrises in the gym every day too. Some bitch is getting the gym after the surgery. This nigga... All right, man, whatever, though. Because now they're gonna say I'm...

I just don't... You gotta make shit make sense. If I have a training with me, every day, that's my homeboy, working out the whole court. What the fuck? Why would I go get a tummy tuck? They said abetching.

Speaking of his friends that are around him all the time. Whatever it is. You being a close insider. I'm not an insider. I just know niggas that no niggas. Do you think is Cap that ironically, every single person he's beef with has had a very consistent story of people in his crew being disloyal, wanting to see his downfall, gossiping about him?

Yeah, but that's what niggas say when there's nothing to say. Yo, you got all these snakes and serpents around you. I read the Bible too, my nigga. Yeah, I know. It's snakes and serpents. I got snakes and servants from my family. It's nothing I can do about that. But people that are close to that crew.

And then when information is coming out, which turned out to be false, which could be a great strategy, if that is correct. But everyone has the same story with that, with that crew. That is snakes and serpents in a circle? Yes. But to Drake's credit, he's had the same friends forever. He doesn't have a huge circle.

So that would say that that's a what? Nah, not necessarily. Something to talk about, yeah, I don't know. Yeah, 40 was the person that, what, got pushed of the information. Okay, so that was him, that was 40. 40 got his ass licked. Yeah, but the point is, like, they're giving up. and just said something on the pillow that he shouldn't have said.

That's not no rat, snake. That's not what that is. Shout out to Push. Love Push. But Push did sort of lie to us when we sat down with him. Yeah, it came from 40. 40 didn't go and tell you. 40 didn't run to Pushin and say that.

He said it to a girl that he was fucking that push it was fucking with two. And the girl just regurgitated. Pusher wasn't somebody in that circle. Well, whoever. She was in another circle. And she just regurgitated what 40 said. Yeah. But why you got to put 40 in his ass licked 40?

Like, you know, you start pillow talking when you got a stone cold freak in the bed. You feel like you could be vulnerable. Because there ain't nothing more vulnerable to getting your ass lick. So now it's fucking, you know, Drake? Shorty told me. Hey, by you down there, you know the boy got a boy.

Well, I meant to tell you why he was down there. You know, the boy got a boy that, you know what I'm saying? He don't know if it's his boy yet. But, you know, he's trying to figure it out. He was inside that. He was inside that thing. Like, maybe I should just get this girl pregnant. so Adonis and my son could grow up together.

I know how it is when you laying down with them stone cold freaks. That girl explained that story to me and she left out the detail of eating any ass. Oh, she licked ass. How you know. I think they were just over FaceTime. I don't think they were currently fucking when that happened.

Well, they fucked before. Yeah, they were talking. Given that information up on FaceTime to be worse. You said what? Giving that information up on FaceTime is worse. In the bed, it seems more appropriate. Not when you know you're going to,

see in a couple days and you're about to get another round of that, you know what I mean? That spa session. You know that spa session where they change your diaper. But push is, you got going to wash out of all the oils. I know some of them out there too. When she told me that story like years later,

I was like, damn, push is actually pretty fucking diabolical. Because he really positioned that telling us like 40 was really a mole and really says. He didn't say that. He said it was a girl 40 fucked. He didn't say 40. came to me. He didn't say that. He said it in a way that. He said it came from 40 and then he explained what he meant by that. Yeah, but he did it in a way that. I recently watched that

clip because all this shit's been circulating again and he said it. Yeah, the, the, he led with it came from 40, but then said a girl he was pillow talking with. He said that. He positioned it back to manipulating the audience to make it seem like 40 was with the ops. Well, however he said it, alluding to the fact that there's snakes and serpents in Drake's circle. There's snakes and Serpents in everybody's circle. You don't know it until you, you know, cut the grass and you see it like, okay, cool, can't fuck with him no more.

That's all of us. You think it ain't snakes and circles around fucking Kendrick? No, I mean, I, of course. I don't think that's expensive. The information is true. It might be more than that around Kendrick. But like I said, I don't know shit. Or is it just the Brady bunch?

Listen, man, it is what it is. I'm just. That looks like a healthy family. I'm just glad we got some pretty good music, some pretty good bars from two of the best that we've ever had. It's been fun to kind of experience this moment. And, you know. Do you think it's bigger than Hove versus Nass?

Yes. Bigger than? Yes. Yes. And I know I wasn't really outside. I don't know about bigger than because Hove and Nas was real beef. I mean bigger culturally. Yes.

I don't know. It's tough. It's tough to say right now it's tough to say. It was bigger culturally. I don't. I don't think in 01 Jay-Z was a pop star yet. We have one of the biggest artists

ever. Summer Jam, the Summer Jam stage and all of that, these are iconic moments to take over record, ether. I don't know if any of these records are as big as takeover either.

The scale of this is much bigger. I don't think the records will be as big, but I think this is, who knows if this is all going to last like the way that it's, It's too soon. I see what you're just saying. Okay.

Ask me that. Like the way Ether became like an adjective. Like, yo, he got ethered. I don't know if any, it's too early to tell him. You got head-o. Any of this is going to. I don't know if anybody's going to say that. I don't know if anybody's going to say that.

I don't know if anybody's going to say that. He got family mattered. I don't know if he got pet-oed. He got heart part 17th. I don't know. But that hasn't really happened with disc records. And maybe only back-to-back? Yeah.

Yeah. And story of. Adelon, I think, is up there. I think that this is, I think that had Drake not actually had that secret kid, like if that didn't exist, I think this is way bigger than him him and pushes this.

This is, even if that ain't fuck that, this is bigger than that. This is way, Kendrick is a way big artist. Yeah, this is bigger. This is way bigger than that push of shit. There is no story of Adelon in here, but overall, yeah, this is one of the biggest artist ever, and then one of the,

probably the biggest rapper of this generation beefing, that's crazy. This is two of the... This doesn't happen ever. Yeah, this is, and especially because it's not, it wasn't rooted in some street shit. It's not spilling into, I mean, we may be approaching that soon. I don't know, certain records, certain things coming out.

Like, it may be, we may be approaching if Drake and Kendrick see each other somewhere, I don't know where they would see each other, but it may, you know, it may be security might just have to kind of like clear the room out. I think the only one that needs to prove something, and please don't prove it, to me, because I already don't think you like me. Chubs has been catching a lot of fucking strays in this battle from. Chubs who I think can fight from what I've heard. It needs to just knock someone out on camera just to clear his name in some of these shots.

Yeah, but that's just to me, because this is all just a rollover of, I think people just don't think Drake is a tough guy. And not that he ever acted like a tough guy, try to present himself as a tough guy. I think he presents himself as a man. Like, nigga, if I have to defend myself, I will. if I have to fight one of you niggas, I will. But he's not trying to impose his, you know, I'm tougher than you niggas, I'm gangster.

He's not trying to impose that on nobody. He has in the second half of his career, which Kendrick did address, I like the melody drake. I don't like this new tough guy, Drake. But that came after the battle. I'm saying it came from, if you're reading this, it's too late,

to now Drake has portrayed himself in the music as a tough guy. He started talking about guns all of a sudden. He wraps from a different perspective in the second half of his career. Which is what they said, 21 Savage gave you street credit, that kind of thing.

And listen, there's nothing. Wrong with that? Like, the harder records on, if you're reading this too late, at first kind of like, pushby. I was like, why is Drake talking like this?

It aged great. He sounds great doing the tough guy shit sometime. But that's a new part of his career. Yeah, but I don't care about that. And he even said, what's that bar? It might have been a leaked verse of him saying, I became a tough guy

after I got rich. He has a bar. I wasn't really gangster till now. Until, yeah. So, I mean, it does land on the perception-wise of this culture, vulture. You're just putting on a different mask of a different person every day. On away from home, that was a lyric. Which is a great record.

To keep it real, I wasn't really gangster till now. Gangster, he says. I was living on a cloud. I was quiet as a mouse. I mean, listen, man, at some point in another, you get tired of motherfuckers playing with you and thinking you saw if you'd rather not because you want to just make music and have fun. And, you know, sometimes you got a show a nigga like, oh, it can go there if you need to.

I don't want it to, but. I just think there's a good range of music. Like, he did take a good shift. I do think a lot of that soft shit would have faded out quicker if he didn't change his sound on if you're reading it's too late. He still went back to the melodic, I can't speak, melodic soft shit, but it opened a new lane for him. So when he wants to get on a record with Ross or 21 Savage,

he can keep up and it not sound insane. which is good. But Kendrick's not wrong of this cosplay tough guy. You know what this feels like an undercard for and a precursor for something that's ultimately far more important? The election in November. So, and I'm bringing this up because of the amount of the bot narratives and as someone that was a digital marketer

for one of the top labels in the game, I, like everybody at a label, spent tens of thousands of dollars a week on spinning narratives, promoting meme pages, pumping all these things on certain pages and kind of controlling the narrative.

I think this was a really like, well, healthy and not in a healthy way, toxic example of what this election cycle is going to look like. Because the bots on this have been nonstop, and I'm seeing it from both sides. Where do you think the music industry learned it from? Oh, well, I think the music industry is first. Hillary Trump election.

Yeah, because these kind of blossomed at the same time. I go even further back to Obama and Facebook. Yeah. But I say that's a thing. I bring it up because I believe hundreds of thousands of dollars have been spent from Kendrick and Drake's side on Instagram ads, YouTube ads, not like traditional ads, like show my content more. I mean meme pages, controlling the narrative, take this line, put it with this image,

to circle this photo in the back of this music screenshot to show that this is actually the truth of the matter. I think all that's extremely intentional. Breakdowns have been amazing that people... But I don't think that they're authentic. Whether it's authentic or not. I'm just talking about when people, the people that I have been seeing

trying to break down and piece together this whole thing, a piece together bars, all the thing pieces have been more entertaining than I could have ever expected. And I see a lot of people, which I feel them, of like, they're more streamers than they are rap fans. So it's not really hitting the same.

They're not doing real deep dive stuff because they've never been real rap fans. I kind of view it the other way of like, all right, this is cool that everyone's now forced to pay attention to real rap. Like now it's trendy to try to break down double entendres. Because that has not happened in quite some time.

It used to be get that lyrical shit out of here for the last fucking decade. Now rapping is trendy. Oh, no, I think that... In a time when it's not. Yeah, I think that a lot of important things and the shit that I'm looking forward to is what does the music landscape

sounding look like after this. Because obviously, everything, things change. I mean, I told you guys we don't get,

we don't get, we don't get, we don't get, we don't get no more Ross and Drake records. That's over. We're never going to get another Kendrick and Drake record.

I think that's over. That's definitely over. We don't get no more. I think the door still slightly open for more future Drake. I think that door, I don't think that that door is closed.

Because he did say on Family Matters, like we never even really went through it was just your people in your ear. Yeah. So I think that door is still slightly open. I do think that Drake is going to be more careful of who he, well, y'all called it him leeching and culture vultram. But I think he's going to be more careful of the artist that he embraces, the features and the verses that he gives out.

So I think that a lot is going to change musically as far as just the landscape of rap and things like that as a result of this. because Drake is going to become that artist that is more isolated. He's more, I don't trust none of these guys. I don't fuck with none of these guys now. He's going to be more of that now than he ever was. Like he was like that some, you know, a little bit before. I think now that's at another level.

But I mean, I kind of feel like that was going to happen regardless. Like, pull up for all the dogs. For the most part, out of 21, we know that's his man's. Tizo. That's the only one that's not a new artist. No disrespect to Tizo. I know he has music before, but to the masses, Pizzo's pretty new.

Cizzo, Cole. He kind of has only really fucked with... P&D, Chief, Keith, Bad Bunny, Sexy Red, Liliotti. As of recently, the younger artists. Like, rarely does he do the legacy stuff anymore. Or the artist that he was working with before, at least, like, in the last two years.

Yeah. I think he was already on his way. Like he had his biggest record Do you think he's thinking about a Ross feature right now? Yeah, no, I'm just saying like as a result of this, I think that becomes more though. Yeah. I think that a lot of the classic collabs and music and sound that we loved

and, you know, we listened to a lot, I think a lot of those doors and a lot of those chapters are over with as a result of this beef. Who do you think they sent over to Kendrick with that info? because I was trying to rack my brain all week of who could have been mutual. Oh, you know, simple. You've been racking your brain about who specifically?

Yeah. Oh, I mean, I don't know about who specifically. I know it was a woman. Oh, 1,000. You know, there's nothing. Niggas put all guards down when the cute bitch walk in with some information. Oh, so why didn't Drake use that in the scheme of telling that entire situation?

Oh, I don't know. Look how easily you fall for lust. Yeah, but you don't want to, you know, he might be sending another one. Don't talk to me about daughters when you're going for any bad bitch that has some info? I mean, it happens, man. It happens. I don't think it was a guy. I can't see it.

I can't see Kendrick trusting a guy and letting a guy get close enough in his circle to get information on. I think it's the way that most guys get caught up and it's a pretty face and a fat act. Again, just to fall victim to the timeline. Because he is a sex addict, right? he's an admitted sex addict? I guess. Man, we all are. He didn't flat out say that, Mr. Marlowe.

Yeah, he did. That was advice. He dealt with shit by just fucking stringer. So you attack a nigga with his vice. It seems like the, it seems like the West Coast. Seems like he didn't heal there, sir. It seems like the West Coast has been far more active in terms of championing.

Oh my God. And let's see, niggas call me a Cape Rod, Dick, Rod, all this shit. Every nigga from the West. If Kendrick wasn't from L.A., I wouldn't hear from none of you niggas. Yeah, niggas is dick. I think that's what they were trying to say.

Like, we just stay. Nah, man. We get behind our coast. No, no, y'all don't. No, y'all don't. No, they don't. No, they don't. That's a deep.

That's a digger. A lot of niggas I know from L.A. did not support Kendrick. Kendrick ain't at these day parties. He ain't with hanging out with you niggas. Y'all niggas did not fuck with Kendrick. Now that there's a battle going on. Y'all want to make it a West Coast versus the world thing.

And that's not what it is. Stop. Stop. I did hate that bar even though it hit when Kendrick was like, I see y'all don't fuck with the West Coast. Like, since when have we not fuck with the West Coast? Yeah, but that's, again, manipulation we're talking about. I know, but it hit Atlanta.

Manipulation. We fuck with the West Coast. Niggas love L.A. Nobody love California more than I do. Well, I mean, I bring it up because I wanted to do on the inverse of that, why has, and again, they don't have to say anything publicly, but just optically, it looks like a lot of the OVO side and even Canadian, in general have been quiet.

What, you want division to say something? No, I'm saying there hasn't been any... We want Daniel to croon some shit together? Not division, per se. But I'm saying, why has the support and the people that are closest to Drake been so quiet about everything, it seemed? They're always quiet. You don't see nobody from Drake's camp

heavy on social media, saying shit on a normal basis. I think the only shit that Chubbs ever tweets or posts is a fucking party he's hosting. You know, like, they've always been. They're not doing nothing outside. out of what they've always done, bro. Like, they don't...

Nobody from PG-Lang is going crazy. Nobody from, like... Well... Niggas from TD is going crazy. They went super crazy. Who? PG-Las. Oh, well.

They went as crazy as you could possibly go. Well, yes. It doesn't... A crew doesn't get closer. That's a very intimate crew, if you want to call it that. But no, it's not... If that's...

If that's true, that's crazier to me than Michelet having kids by Dr. Dre and Shug Knight. Hmm. Because to me, that was like the wildest thing ever. And the fact that Nas' baby mother went on Vlad and said she had a miscarriage with Jay-Z. I was like, wait, so this woman could have possibly had a kid by Nas and Jay-Z? The kid's woman alive?

Yeah. What the fuck? It happens. That's nuts. Yeah. Did you talk to Drake at all this week? Yeah. What was his temperature like?

He's chilling, man. he's he's he's he's enjoying it but he does seem like he's kind of like at that point like all right man how many how many more we got to meet the grams flustered him okay no you're not going to get me to do what you want me to do I'm not doing that I think I'm not asking I'm just I feel like I'm my role in this episode because I feel like I'm speaking on behalf of everybody that was been waiting for us to record I I'm just saying I just think why do you feel like it flushed he jumped to the timeline and started doing the Instagram story thing

and then was like it just seemed scrambling. Well, you think that he did that because he saw that what his strategy worked and he said, okay, prove that I have 11-year-old daughter.

Where is she? And I think he should have done that with music earlier than immediately going on IG. He dropped the record a day and a half later and y'all said, oh, he's still talking about it.

So which one is it? Y don't want him to address it or you. No, it's two days later. Oh no. Again, that's why I thought it was the lose-lose with the pedal shit.

It's either address it look crazy. Don't address it look crazy. The kid thing, it would be a better strategy if he revealed that the next day after Meet the Grams. Like, I don't think it flustered him.

Okay, so it was the next day after that? I think not like us flustered him. I don't even know what not flustered him. How? Why? Because he even brought it up at the end. He said he liked it if it wasn't, didn't have that fucking the bullshit in it. I like that record.

And I can read between the lines to what Julian is saying. I think he just, he looked at Meet the Grams. Like, all right, more of that push a T-shirt. Cool. I know my family. My family loves me. That's just propaganda shit. Not like us started to hit. And you have an anthem about me being a pedophile?

Yes, I think that flustered him and meet the grams did not at all. I think he heard that a minor bar and was like, fuck. I think there might be some, I don't think it was a specific song. But I do think that the threat of Drake not being a part of the culture, because we've had the conversation that Drake wants to actually be accepted by the people that he respects. And he feels like he's never been that respect. he calls himself the stepchild, all of these things.

We've had this conversation before. I think Kendrick constantly pulling on that threat of, you ain't even really black. Niggas don't even really fuck with you like that. Niggas don't really respect you in the industry. Yeah, you got the numbers. Yeah, you got the money.

But niggas don't really respect you as part of the culture. You're taken from this person. You're taken from this person. You're taken from this person. I think if anything bothered, Drake, whether he would admit it to his friends, his family, whatever, I think it would be that. But that's also timing too.

Because like we've said, people are tired of Drake winning. He's the Patriots. We're tired of seeing Tom Brady win another fucking ring. That roast was incredible, by the way. I know we're only talking music. And even, I don't trigger Julian here, but even when Eminem said whatever song that was that I didn't like,

Drake, his whole catalog. Everything that's happening to me right now is eventually going to happen to you. People get sick of people winning. If Kendrick got all that shit off that he said this week five years ago, I don't think it would hit the same way. The timing is perfect. They were calling Drake. a culture vulture 10 years ago

and nobody gave a fuck because at that point, the masses loved Drake and he was not an underdog per se, but still on his ascend. Yeah. Now he's just at the point where what else can he do

with accomplishments. So these things hit way different. Don't culture vultures just take from the culture? Yeah. So Drake has just taken from the culture? I'm again, not the dictator of who is in the culture and who's not.

No, I'm asking you. From your point of view, has Drake just taken from the coach? No, I think to your point, it's obviously mutually beneficial. So, whiz, that's what I'm saying, I'm just, I'm just, I would rather niggas just say, yo, I don't like this niggins. I'm tired of seeing him be on top. Do you really think that that's like a, you think that people just, it's not even just about our culture, about hip-hop culture. It's about the other cultures.

It's about the stealing of other people's accents and the stealing of other people's flows and the stealing of other people's lingo. What accents? What do you don't want? More life, Drake? He doesn't been Jamaican I like Jamaican Do you y'all know where Drake is from Do y'all know that he has grown up

In the predominantly Caribbean neighbor Have you ever been to Toronto? One of my favorite cities in the world I love if you grow up in Toronto That's a It's heavy Caribbean culture in Toronto You grew up in the Bronx Do you have a Puerto Rican accent

You're Puerto Rican, do you have a Puerto Rican accent? No but if I want to sit here and sing a song That's Spanish and like that's my shit It wouldn't be me being a culture vulture If I was an artist I'm half Puerto Rican You know where it gets... I grew up in the Bronx.

Weird and you have to be objective of how people look at it that. I'm from the culture, is what I'm saying. I'm from here. This is where I'm from. This is from Toronto. Had family in Memphis. Spent time in the South.

Had family and Houston. Spent time in Texas. Is he not a part of that culture? If I grew up wherever I grew up at and my friend is one of my best of Haitian, Jamaican, Puerto Rican, Dominican. I'm not a part of that. I grew up in these households.

I spent time around these families. You can be a part. You can... The Toronto dialect is based of West Indian. Anyway, so I feel what you say. So when people say that, I'm like,

yo, he's from Toronto. Because people reference, like, old videos of him when he was sitting at dinner with his, I don't know,

actor friends. The Degrassy cast. And they're talking about Toronto slang. He's like, yeah, at my school, it'd be like,

man's them, whatever. And then at the end, he said, I think it's super ignorant. Like, he dismissed talking that way, and then all of a sudden

popped up talking that way. You, have you, I'm just telling you how people to view that. Okay. And that, they would be correct. when you was fucking 15 and said shit.

Waste, shit, way worse than that. That's what I'm saying. But I'm just telling you where people look, look at it from. This one too, Marcos, this was one going all over the place and then you can go home. Somebody that I was like, I used to see out, be like, yo, that's that nigger. You know, the biggest thing yielding for Jay. That, yeah. Why would you bring that?

Optically is not good look. That's not a good example, too. His dad is black, bro. I'm not saying he can't say it. It was the hardy R. That's the crux. I'm not, obviously. What I actually value about Drake in taking certain sounds to the mainstream,

some people from those cultures can get mad at it and see it as exploitation. Afro beats was about to be the next thing. Leorke-Cone was on interview saying, we're done with hip-hop. Afro beats is the next wave. Spotify, Apple, YouTube, we're only focusing on Afro beats. Then Drake came with a record from WizKid. I think it's great because he put WizKid onto a whole new audience. and I think helped give some mainstream feel to Afrobeats in America.

But some people could look at that and go, all right, Drake's in the industry, he knows this is about to be the new thing. Let me put on some Afrobeat accent, get the same drums, get the hottest upcoming one right now to give me validation. And then I'm going to take this Afrobeats wave to benefit from it. Same thing with UK, when he did more life. Yeah, but that's- You're taking the two international sounds that are about to be the next thing.

I'm not saying that's what is true. That's how people view it. Right, but we know that people, again, some people just never just need to talk, period. We know that. Some people are just stupid and don't know what the fuck is going on. But look at it from the view of here's the biggest artist in the culture, in this genre, and he's ushering in, he's helping bridge the sounds that are currently, which is why he's a global artist. He has the ability to make these records.

and make them his own. I don't say, oh, that's culture. Is he not supposed to, if he's an artist that has the capability, and let's be clear, any fucking artist that has the capability to make the records that he makes would make him if they can make them. Yeah.

So he's that fault because he actually has that ability to make that record, and he's making him. He has the ability to make a global record. So he's a culture vulture because he's going to make a record that has Afro beat culture in it. And I'm telling you, people move the goalposts when people win too much. could say the same thing Hove did with juvenile. That was the next up and coming shit and Hove hopped on it.

Bro, any artist. With the bass sound, Hove did that. Before Blueprint 3, if I remember correctly, that was supposed to be a world album where every song was a different sound from a different country. It would have been praised.

It was like Epcot. People move the go post. It just doesn't, it doesn't, the shit is, I don't know. That's when you just start nitpicking that trying to find shit to, again, because the battle thing is who can assassinate whose character the most. That's what battling.

Maybe this makes me a culture vulture. I mean, outside of my face. If Passion Fruit is a culture vulture, I like it. I'm not going to listen to an amazing song. I can see how someone offended from that culture could feel, but it's a fucking great record.

I don't get into that. Now, if he was just taking from these cultures, and he wasn't like helping all the other artists, like breaking them into like mainstream American culture and bringing those artists over here and then going over to London and performing with those artists.

If he wasn't doing that and he was just taking that sound and then putting it on it, then I could be like, all right, that's kind of fucked up. Like you took their whole sound, they wave and you didn't even give them any light. Like you didn't even like bring them over here and give them a look. He's been running around with Central Sea all over.

Yeah. But someone says doing that because Central Sea is the hottest up-and-coming UK rapper from mainstream. Okay, but he don't need to run around with the nigga. He can just be like, let me do a record with you and that to be it. He's actually embracing them,

bringing him to America, showing him around America. Introducing him to other artists, like... His intentions for that aren't pure as what people are saying. Yeah, but that's, again, people are going to say, you could, bro, you could sit here and make the best fucking cheesecake in the world.

Guess what? Somebody can be like, I hate cheesecake. I like juniors. It doesn't fucking matter. We can't speak to what certain people is going to feel. We know that. Everybody's not going to agree. agree with everything, and that's fine.

But let's just deal with the facts, though. The nigger has given, he has given just as much, if not more than he's taken. And that's a fact. Look at the whatever charts and discographies and any other, go down the list. I'm not going to see, he has given just as much, if not

more than he's taken. That's an angle I kind of wish he took more on in the heart part six, because he said it on pushups and family matters. Like everyone is dissing me. I gave y'all your first number one. Like, what are we even talking about? I think he is talented enough to take that culture vulture narrative and flip it.

So now of a sudden I'm a culture vulture, I wasn't the last 20 years when I was giving everybody hits and y'all was coming to all my shows, streaming everything, calling me up for a feature, trying to use my formula. I'm sure there's been international artists that have reached out to him. He's like, yo, this record's dope. Of course they have. Of course they have He's the biggest artist In music

And to me that's more of What he should be Fighting back on Not Not over No no no Because according to you It would be

That would be him explaining Hisself And that would be him Trying to like no So he can't do that either Because if he goes that route He's gonna lose that route too If he sits there tries to explain

I'm not a culture of ultra Look I gave the You're gonna come right back on him Why does he keep explaining himself You just said that about the pedophile shit Why does he keep explaining himself? drastically different. Over-explaining the pedophile thing did not work

in his favor. And the bars he chose of, I'm famous, I would have been caught. Like, come on. Yeah, that was... I'm talking about an angle of facts. And if Drake's not a pedophile, then yes, that's a fact that he's explaining. But when you're over-explaining it, and you sound so fucking frustrated,

you're losing. You're getting too emotional in this shit, and clearly his strategy worked. I'm saying he could come and explain in facts how we're all hypocrites for now calling Drake a culture vulture. Nah, but then you're going to sit here and say the same shit. Nah. You're going to sit here and say the same shit.

I mean, if he started crying. If not you, if not you, somebody else. Oh, well, of course. So you don't, you can't win for losing. That's what I'm saying. Like, what do you, the bottom line is this. The nigger has been on top of the charts. He's been on top of music for over a decade.

And niggas is tired of seeing it. That's all it. That's what this is. But nobody's, nobody's, nobody's man enough to be like, yo, that's what it is. It ain't he's a pedophile. He's a culture vulture. cut the shit, man.

You think if Drake was fucking a little young girl that we wouldn't have been hurt? You think Kendrick Lamar would have broke that story to us? Well, no. Kendrick Lamar. No, and that's where I actually want to shoot. A nigga that ain't even outside. He would have been the one

that would have brought that to light. That's why I want to shoot Drake some bail because a big thing last night was that the heart part six was Twitter wrote it. Like Drake was just on the timeline and just pieced together what the timeline was saying. I could say a lot about the same shit

with Kendrick. This whole pedophile thing was before Kendrick replied all over the timeline. A lot of the points Kendrick did take from push, took them from Ross, took them from the timeline, and just explain them in a better way because he's a more talented lyricist than most people. But he took a lot of Twitter points. Of course he did. Drake is not the only one that has all of us as a ghostwriter. That's where I was like, all right, I see what everyone's saying because yes, this is all Twitter points that's been happening in the past two days. But we're moving the goalpost again for Kendrick? Because I thought he did the same exact. He took Pusha and Twitter.

Listen, the goalpost is going to move when people like who they like. That's just what it is. The goalpost is going to move. I don't even care about the goalposts. I'm just sitting here listening to the music, listening to what we've been given, and taking from it, what I take from it.

That's all. To finish the over-explaning point, if he took this same angle of if I'm a pedophile, why have you all been working with me for last 20 years. You don't need to over-explain that you're not a pedophile with these insane fucking bars of being famous and all this other shit because we've seen plenty of famous people get away with it. Say, if I'm a pedophile and y'all have known this, why do y'all continue to work

with me? That debunks a lot of shit. Then now you got to stand on that that you fuck with pedophiles and you didn't say anything. And this error today. That's a better angle than over-explaining some shit in a frustrated tone. In this error, you think if Drake was a pedophile? You think if Drake was a pedophile, we wouldn't have been, like, it wouldn't have been proven true already. In this era, the shit that's going on now here. I don't think Drake's a pedophile, but... Yeah. Jeff E. F. F.E. F.C., had a 60-year run. Yeah.

I got caught and then run continued. Yeah, I think money can make a lot. I'm not saying Drake's a pedophile, but I do think, just with that point, I think money can make a lot of shit disappear. But also, this pedophile shit and didn't just come... We're not going to act like pedophile just came out of nowhere, and it was like, yo, just throw this on Drake's jacket. Yeah. There have been instances of things that have led to believe that he, you know,

he likes young girls. For example, the whole Georgia Smith point. Georgia Smith, what? When he was dating Georgia, her last name, Smith, right? Georgia, when he was dating Georgia, she was originally very young. I think she wasn't that a thing going on. Georgia wasn't my preference, but I believe she was 18 when they talk, which, again, I think is weird when you're in your 30.

The CC on the beat, the girl on the basketball, high school basketball team that he was DMing, and then went to a game, saw her friend who happened to make beats, and he got money, money, the Rick Ross record, money in the grave record out of that. Them, him being around

24, 25, pulling the 17 year old girl on stage, she said she was 17 and then saying how good her breasts felt against him. This is on video.

Then he kissed her. Then he kissed her. So this did not just... Arguing with John Morant in push-ups about a girl that's what, 20? 21, I think.

This is so... It'll make you a pedophile, but when you add all those things up and then you have a rap battle, yeah, that's where you get Kendrick saying a minor. And maybe... And chancing pedophop.

And look, in the scale of a rap battle, too, like, I think it's safe to say Drake has an affinity for younger women. That doesn't necessarily mean pedo. Like, he's not like... Stop right there. Stop right there. But, Ma, in the sake of a rap... In the sake of a rap beef, what sounds better?

You like fucking women that are 20 or, hey, bro, you're a pedophile. I understand that. You have to say the worst version of the thing. I understand that. But that's what I'm saying. That's, to me, that's the point right there, though. Like, if you're going to say, if you think I like younger women, said like younger women.

Don't say, because pedo and younger women is two different things. But in a rap being... So the only thing keeping him from being a pedophile is the law. Yeah, of course. The law...

That's the only thing... For anybody... He made the grams, he definitely dissected his love for young women. Like, he tore that apart. He did both, is what I'm saying. He made the joint

we're going to sing along to that says pedophile and then actually broke down his fucking addiction to everything in his life, including young women. And where it came from. I don't see every time you say

I know you just be dismissing what I'm saying No no no I'm listening to what you're saying I'm taking it on but I'm just like okay I get what you're saying from that From that angle I understand I'm just back to what I said originally About an hour and a half ago Drake is smashing these niggas

And it's not even close He's out rapping these niggas He's making better songs out of this whole rat beef Kendrick is rapping That's not like us I like that record That shit gonna go off But outside of that record

He just put out more record but is it, isn't it quality over quantity? So you're saying that euphoria does not have quality. All quality in their own perspective, right. But I'm just saying like... If he tried to drop five clubbangers and only not like us hit, then I'd be looking at it way different. Every song to me is drastically different.

And serves a different purpose. Yeah. So that's where I think... So that's what y'all think he won. Yeah. Yeah. Currently, currently, as it falls on today's date at this time, because any one of these motherfuckers could drop.

Yeah, you're right. Kendrick is winning. But I gave the same credit. Do I not come in here and say charged up is one of the most underrated disc records? See, don't do that. Because now you're doing that to make them all feel validated.

I'm trying to prove a point to make you feel valid. Of how we look at charged up where it was checking the temperature. I'm wrapping. I'm saying some shots here and there. And then I hit you with a clubbanger. We look at that as a great strategy

that smoke meek. I'm saying the same for Kendrick now. He hit both angles. You got some shit that could be in the car, some shit that could be at the club. Like, it's perfect. Drake did the same thing, and that's why he smoked meek. Kendrick's just doing it to him now.

And that's where I think Drake got flustered was after, not like us, was hitting all weekend on some dance shit. That's all. But listen, I... The culture one. When I was younger, we used to debate if Jay-Z was really in a karate class at 36. This is... Now we're debating who's a petto.

It's crazy. It fits at times. That's why I love about. And I'm on the side of always. There's no lines in rat beefs. No. I love the molesting take, even though he was wrong in the info. Great take.

There's no line to cross. I saw so many people like, oh, Drake's taking it too far with a victim. This is battle rap. If he would have had the information correct, that would have hit crazy. So we feel the same about the 11-year-old daughter and that? we found some common ground. Yeah, I don't think that hits the same at all. I think what he was saying about Drake

in regards to the 11-year-old daughter was fire, but now that it's not even real, eh. I didn't believe in when I first heard it. I totally ignored that verse. Nobody believed that. But even remove that verse, there's still three very good verses here.

Yeah, exactly. I just ignored that verse. Directed at his mom, his dad, his friends, and him and himself. And his son. And even, Not to cut you up. But you know why I don't fuck with Julian?

Because if Eminem did that, if Eminem did exactly what Kendrick did right here, you would be in here killing this shit. You would be in here killing, destroying this shit. Dear Mom. Absolutely destroying this shit. Nobody gives a fuck if he's reading from his diary. Get these fucking wraps out of here. I just wanted to go to Arizona.

Like you would have been ahead. This is exactly what you came here saying. It's a Martin reference. This is exactly what you would have came here saying if this was Eminem and not Kendrick. Well, it's not. And I can't always. argue with you on that. It's not. There you have it.

Okay. Even though I feel like me and Damaris are the only objective people here. What? Now that you just said that, I'm not objective. Now that you just say that. If Eminem did wrap this, I would say what Jeff. How am I? How? I said not objective.

We were team Drake. I said kids got good. Records out of them. I'm just saying in totality, I think Drake has the better records and the better bars. DeMaris and I flipped at the same time. We were both team Drake up until that last stretch by Kendrick. And I'm still team this whole thing. Drake, drop something.

You can go up. Okay. Listen, I had to tuck my tail to all my L.A. friends when we were in Mexico. Tucking shit. Because I was like, all right. Let my shit hang.

Y'all got a point right now. Think about not wearing no drawers this one. You're tuck a shit. Fuck, I said. Fuck out of here. Tuck what? Smashing on y'all niggas, man. You guys still think

depending how this ends up, you think Kendrick's still going to put out this album? Of course. What? That I might come out next week. Word. I think not like us is the first single. How about that?

If it wasn't before, it is now. If it's the album coming out. I told you, man, the album is dropping this month. Well, for sure. There's no way he doesn't drop an album this month. He would be stupid. Even if he wasn't going to be stupid not. That album is coming now.

Poetic, shit. Well, that's because the two of them are beefing. Do you search their name? That's what comes up. Yeah, so guess what else is coming? A new album, nigga. We're going to use all of this. Oh, we're going to roll.

This is the, oh, this is marketing budget weird. We don't need that. You need what? Drop the album, the internet tonight. It's going up. The poetic justice about this whole beef in totality is they're the two people that relate to themselves to each other the most. What do you mean? They're so alike.

And they need each other, at least in this regard in terms of this like back and forth sparring thing. Kendrick might slap me for saying that. So how? I'm saying like they're... Drake would too. But their realities, like they're so far removed from the real world. Not even just like the 9 to 5 working world, but also the hip-hop world.

They're on such a different stratosphere that I think if they really sat down and talked, I think they would find so much more common ground and relate to each other more than any other artists. I think they tried that for a long time and realized that they're not the same people and they don't get along. And they have different values. I think they probably tried to have a pretty cool rapper friendship for a minute

and things were just different. I think it comes down to it gets to a point where you realize in order for you to reach a certain level you got to kind of go at whoever is at the top. We could be friends, but in order for me to get to a certain space, we're going to have to have this moment.

Like, we're going to have to have this, which is why the whole cold shit kind of pissed me off because it's like, damn, we needed this. Like, we needed to have this. Imagine coal mixed in this and what we would have got from him. I think it would have hurt. Her, who, Cole?

I'm not shooting Cole Bale. I still, again, we talked about the movie made. I don't think having three heads in this would have done this whole situation good. I think that she needed to shoot a fair one and needed to be a one-on-one. Oh, it could still be a one-on-one. I didn't say Drake and Cole had to fucking make a duet. No, but Kendrick would have had to split his attention at some point to,

what does he do? Drake is splitting his 10 people. Man, but in a good way. Yeah, yeah, what niggas is coming at him? I want to do. But who he's shooting at? But who he's shooting at? is not a Cole.

He's not shooting at Cole. He's not shooting at a Kendrick and others. He's not shooting at a Cole and a Kendrick. There's a difference in splitting your attention between two people who are really, really, really good. But that's what Kendrick wanted. And splitting your attention between. But that's what Kendrick wanted.

Kendrick said, fuck the big three. It's just big me. I think Kendrick just wanted Drake. Of course. I agree. Duh. We know that now. We know that now.

But we didn't know that when Kendrick, when Cole put that record out. Seven minute drill, by the way, is one of the best. records that came out of this thing. It is. With the most we play value. Yo, yo, yo,

yo, we can't even find that record nowhere. I got it. Shut the fuck up. Nobody wants to hit, nobody wants to hit seven minute drill.

I was over. It's over. It's over. What's the shit with him and boss on the album that I like? Hide your bitch. Hide your bitch.

Play that. Don't, no seven minute drill. That record's crazy. Hide your bitch. I love that. First of all, that EP is five.

Take away seven minutes. It's dope. It's dope. You can clearly see that the Abiza record was supposed to be the outro. Recent co-records. It's a dope project.

Hope. Love shit with daylight and absoe, crazy. Love it. Right. Love it. But guess what? We can never talk about Battle J. Cole ever again.

That's fine. I think the fall off is still going to be one of the albums. That shit. Keep it. You can't do that to the album. I don't want to hear it because I don't believe them.

Fine. You miss out on the good music. That's your personal choice. I'll go listen to 616 in L.A. I don't know. But if we're looking at two people that are either telling the truth about each other or lying about each other,

how do we view Drake and Kendrick after this? They're awful. They've been awful. But they've been awful. I don't look to musicians to be fucking beacons of moral code. We already had the conversation. What do you talk about? The diamond name.

It's so like self-proposizing. The diamond thorn crowned of fake blood. It's so fucking gimmicky and lame. We already said that in order to be in the music industry and this alludes to you too. In order to be in the music industry, music industry, you are either going to be a nasty niggle or bump heads with a nasty

nigger or rub shoulders with a nasty nigger. That's period. We already know that. So finding out that these two are a piece of shit, nobody's surprised. If everything they said is true, no one is surprised. And Drake might have another kid. They just got the wrong one. I'm like, who the fuck cares? That's also why, even if that was true. I'd be a boy. Yeah. That 12 year old man. That verse I liked content wise because I thought it was creative, but it didn't hit to me even if it was true. Oh, the biggest. in the world as another kid. Cool.

Nah, so don't do that. Because if it was true when that girl was really his kid, see, that's what y'all niggas got, y'all not keeping it real. If that was true and that little girl was really Drake's kid,

you would be in here like, yo, he's a sick motherfucker. Like, after the first kid, he's been sick. So don't say you wouldn't have cared. Don't say that. It would have emboldened Kendrick's record, but it doesn't make me

think any differently about Drake. Yes, at all. I don't feel the same about Drake. If they said, yo, Drake, you got a whole other family. I don't give a fuck how many kids he has running around. That would affect him.

I know what you don't care about. That would affect him. Him personally, that other people know, probably. That would affect him to the way people view him. That would have fucked him up. I don't think so. I think people's perception, Drake, is so. You can't hit me with the-

The whole reason that just say push your one is because he dropped a bomb that he has a kid. At that point, it was the first one. So imagine if he had another one that pushed it didn't even know about. It would be even crazier for y'all right now. He can't do the same trick twice. Exactly. It's like, all right, we already know he hides kids. No, that's why I thought Kendrick was created in taking an angle.

of him. You're full of shit. If that was real and that girl was really Drake's daughter, y'all would be in his smashy now. All right, man.

If that was true and Drake has actually been taking care of that girl and it was a family decision to keep that hidden for the child's sake or the mother's sake,

I would come in here and say, that's none of y'all fucking business. That's not a stain on Drake's jacket. That's not, but you didn't say that when the push of battle

happened. He was one of those on the side of like, yo, damn, he exposed. them. No, I was on the side of, wow, that's probably the only way you're going to beat Drake in a battle. You have to out gossip what's going on in his life. What a move. Okay, so double that down. He dumped himself down so much on that. I said, damn, that's probably the only way you could

beat Drake because if push came on there with a million entendras, wrapping away push raps, it wouldn't hit. We'd be like, all right, cool, I'm going to go. I hit your kid like some bricks. So now, so now imagine. I'm going to listen to God's son. Okay. So now imagine he had a whole other daughter that entire time that we just found out about. imagine if Kendrick was the rapper to expose that. You would have came in here and killed him for that. Also, I've been on record a million times. I would have killed them for that.

Well, the bigger things to me was that Greg didn't reply. Because you had your time to be like, yo, by the way, I got another. But what if the decision amongst the family was we are not exposing this? We don't want to do this, yeah. But with Adonis's mother, she was fine with it. And obviously the push thing happened. So let's embrace this moment because we have no choice. They don't have, nobody has to tell you.

they have kids. And the bomb... I don't care about that. But there's a battle and a rapper exposes that you have a kid and then y'all say that damn, that was the fucking

that hurt him, then yes, if he had another kid after all of that or he had a kid before that while that was happening and didn't tell us, y'all will be killing him for me.

All, the bomb was that he really didn't reply to it. Yeah. Agree. He didn't reply to what? It was great. Of course on the timeline that did. We recorded in real time

when that happened. You didn't rap. Yeah, it was crazy to hear a push go. You are hiding a child. I would like. Structurally it was just a great fucking disc record. But I didn't go like,

yo, Drake is, it's over for him. I couldn't wait for his reply to what push even said at the end of the record. This was a warning shot. We have all summer. We're going to pull it back layer by layer.

That wasn't even a bomb to push. Him not replying made it a bomb. Okay. That is sick because if that was the warning shot, what the fuck else did he have on this man? I think he was going to go to the ab route. He alluded to that at the end. I mean, I feel like you lead with surgery.

The kid would be like the bomb. I guess we'll never know. I don't know. Yeah, who cares what niggas getting this, their body? I don't give up. Like, who cares about that? It's just weird. It's funny, though.

It's funny. Who cares a nigga got his, if he did get his stutter done? All for all people bleat that for everything else. Everything else. No, you said if I got new teeth, we couldn't pod together. Now Drake can get his abs Imagine if Rory came back from Mexico And he started posting photos with his shirt off

And he's got like an 8-pack Y'all should rightfully kill me if I do that I'm not saying I wouldn't I'm not saying I wouldn't But that would be a bomb Like that would shake the room That's what I'm saying That shit didn't shake the room for me

I'm like okay like that's crazy I would never do that I just work out Niggia like I'm not laying on the table Getting my stomach done That's funny shit like oh that's funny But it ain't out Like oh shit He got his body all this nigga

that ain't that would it have been 15 years ago no I don't care about I don't care about that type of shit Kanye came out and exposed that Nas got his body done that wouldn't have been a thing nobody cares about that type of shit

niggas don't care about niggas getting cosmetics they teeth and their body it's weird we're gonna laugh at you but it don't it don't hold a candle next to yo this nigga got a kid he ain't even telling nobody you thinking oh one if Jay Z said

Nas got plastic surgery that wouldn't hit that's not what I'm saying I'm not saying it wouldn't hit, but what I'm saying is amongst like in the room with just us talking, that wouldn't be something that would be the focal point. Bro, and ether. This thing I got his body.

You laugh at that type of shit. But the bomb would be, if this nigga got kids that he's not even fucking. Yeah, but it's still good around. It's like, yo, this nigga's the type of shit he ain't on. Listen, Nass called Jay a Taibo ho and it hit. Like, it was just funny. It wasn't like a nuke, but it was just funny.

It's hilarious. It's funny. You 36 in a karate class? You Ta-Boh-ho, hilarious. It's funny. And to think about Jay-Z in a karate class at 36 is hilarious to me.

Funny. What I'm saying is there's other shit that's being said that people are acting like is not being said. And they say, no, I don't care about that.

I don't care if he beat his bitch up. What? Huh? Yeah, I don't care about this niggas beating his fiance up. I care about that. But I'm not. Look how your whole tone just changed.

Let me finish. Look how your whole tone just changed. Because I know when I'm being a hypocrite, when most people won't say that. Yeah, I have an issue with that, and Kendrick does need to address that. But I listen to Biggie Records to this day. I listen to Big Pun Records to this day.

I'm not Mr. Moral. I didn't say he was. So to think that in hip-hop, this is a bad thing about hip-hop. Hip-hip has not taken domestic violence as serious as it should. That's amongst other things. Okay, wait, we, let's not make this a hip-hop thing.

The world doesn't give a fuck about domestic violence. I don't want to make it like a hip-hop thing. No, no, of course. But we're talking about hip-hop right now. So, yeah, it's never, even in battles, like, I'm happy that they're taking it here, because these are issues that I think is going on everywhere that need to be addressed.

But when it was going crazy before battles, Tony A.O. just said Fat Joe was scared to fly. Funny. Everyone avoided their skeletons. Is he that's funny. I'm not saying, yeah, you has them, but all rappers didn't take it to a certain place because they had skeletons in their closet and they tried to keep it to, I'm tougher than you, I can rap better than you, and I probably fucked your wife.

Now we are getting into an accountability thing that we need to look in a mirror about, because that's what I was trying to bring up before. Yeah. If this is true, how are we looking at Kendrick Lamar and Drake if everything here is true? That's why I say Kendrick is the real loser here. And if everyone is lying, why are we choosing these things to lie about? So it's as much as this has been a great moment, and like I said, we're probably never going to have a moment like this in hip hop again. I am enjoying the moment.

It's also a nice reflection. If this is all true, then what do we do in as fans? And as fans, are we going to look in the mirror and pick and choose which artist we like better and ignore their stuff? skeletons. It'll be okay what he said about him because I'm on this side. That's what always happens.

It's happening right now. And I'm saying I'll be the first to say I'm a hypocrite. A bunch of shit I stand on moral grounds about that I don't budge on. I listen to music of people that have not only been accused, it's been

confirmed of domestic violence, crazy or shit. We draw the line at sexual assault now, thank fucking God. But abuse, we don't do that. Tori is still,

Tori's probably bigger than he ever has been. Hey, I'm happy Soul Tap is on the DSPs now too. Oh, I wasn't supposed to say that out loud. My bad, I'm sorry. I know what you were alluding to. So, I don't know, as much as I hate to be like the mature buzzkill,

but I've enjoyed this, but also thought the whole time, like, if nobody's lying, how could I even look at these two? But we're going to see I think more is to I think and I believe more is to come We'll see

I just think I'm just saying how's he doing From what you're comfortable with sharing Outside of these ones Go on vacation That's it Like he's The things that I think people are thinking

That these both of these I can't speak for Kendrick I don't speak to him But I think that both of these gentlemen are in way better spirits and way better moods and energy than people probably would think they are. Yeah. I actually don't think Drake is in a bad mood.

That's why I think yesterday's record was so crazy because he sounds so frustrated and flustered. And I don't really think he is. He better not go to Turks and post on Instagram because he's going to look nuts. They're going to pull up, you go to Turks and pay for sex for the whole week. He better find a different location and not be around any process.

They pay for sex in the house they live in. What does that mean? See? Niggas ain't got to go on vacation to pay you. So anywhere Drake goes now to where he's paying for sex when he goes there, that's the optics? Like if he goes to fucking out. I feel like that been the optics. If he goes to Hawaii, he's just paying for sex there.

Yeah. I mean, I'll get it. I mean, he's an admitted trick. I don't think that that really hurts Drake if we're like, yo, you go to Turks and pay for sex. Like, yeah. I mean. I've been thinking about that for years. That's my whole career.

They have my album. cover at the most popular bar in Turks. Where are the prostitutes are? You said that they're going to kill him. Like, that's not killing him. Like, he's probably going to look at that and be like... Okay. You know what I meant.

I didn't mean actually, like, that's going to be a stain on his jacket. Yeah, but that shit. The bots are going to run with it, is all I'm saying. Oh, but that's... It's going to get more validity to a kid. You can't fight the bots. You can't, there's nothing you can do about that.

You got to just fucking laugh at that shit and just, you know... Well, how was Miami? The yams? No, I didn't really do shit, man. My phone was fucked up. Did you pay for sex? a phone for like two, three days. So I was kind of like mad.

Oh, we thought she was just ignoring us in the group chat. Nah, my phone was my phone. Yeah, I called you. That shit was like right to avoid. I was like, damn, mall really just clipped us for the week. No, no, my shit was, my phone was, was, it kept saying no SIM. I was like, what the fuck is? It kept saying SOS in the top shutting off. I was like, all right, let me just go get a new phone.

And then I couldn't, because I couldn't. These PG-Lang bots have some arms. Yeah, I've been, I thought it was just the Drake standard. He sent somebody in Miami to fucking infiltrate my phone. But, so I didn't have a phone. phone, but I was, we was chilling, man. Me and my brother, we just, me and Biggs chill for a couple days. You know,

went to a Puma event because it was F1. It was a Formula One racing a weekend in Miami. Oh, fine. So Puma had an event. Shout to, Henry. Went and fucked with M. Marie for a few. A.SAT Rocky released a Puma, like a capsule. You got a suit,

some sneakers, so they did that. So we went to that. I went to dinner. Oh, was that the thing of the video of Rihanna, where she looked amazing? She was wearing pink. Pink hair. She went like viral. Oh, yeah.

Was she down there? For the past. She was looking at Rocky. He had like a helmet on or a mask on. She gave him a stare. Everyone's like, I wish my girl looked at me the way that. Probably. They said they were.

I'm sure it was the same way. I think he, well, we left before Rocky got there, but I would, I would have been surprised if, well, that's part of that, that whole Puma helmet thing. That's, um, I don't know if that was there. I don't know if that could have been, but we weren't there for that. We left. We was there for like two hours and left. But I didn't think Rocky was going to show up because the record I just dropped.

And, you know, once a nigga call your girl by her pet name publicly, I think that he would be in the house ready to fucking kill something. But I feel like Rocky is intelligent enough to know that when he dropped that awful bar. That's the same event. It looks like it. That Drake was going to come back with the easiest scheme ever. Yeah, that was a setup. He just threw a floater up for Drake.

Like, why would you even do that? Yeah, you can't do that. Like you can't brag about fucking my baby mother that I don't claim. I fuck Rocky, but when I heard that, I was like, that's not going to end good. I want to give Rocky some credit to think that he just honestly does not give a fuck. And it's just happy in his relationship and just said something to say it. It's nothing you. He wouldn't, I don't think he would hide after knowing what would come back after him saying that.

No, but I just felt like he would probably be somewhere in the studio ready to motherfucking, I don't know. Just, you know, rap. I didn't think that he was going to show up to the event. That's a losing battle. I would just show up to the event with my very beautiful girl. You got to. At some point, I didn't think it was going to be that same day. The record had dropped the night before.

Yeah. I was like, I don't think he's going to show up to this. And then his DJ played, what was the name of the, Meet the Grams? Was it the, is that the record? The dark record, the long, like, does telling talk. One of Rockies, I think it was his DJ, was DJ in the event. And he played, I don't know which one of the Kendrick choice he played, but it was the one that had just came out. Probably you for you.

Because I can't see Meet the Grams. The Function is crazy. He played Meet the Grams. I'm trying to tell you. It wasn't 616 in L.A.? No. It was Meet the Grams, but he blended it

with like a fucking Afrobeat drums over it. I'm trying to tell y'all, this was like, I was looking at him more amazed. I'm like, this record came out 11 hours ago. This record came out 11 hours. How do you have a mix already to this record? And when do you blend it to the six minute record?

In which verse you pay? Which verse? That's what I'm saying. I was listening to it. Desandra. And I'm like, yo, he's, blending the meat the grams joint? I was like, this is crazy.

Like, how do you fucking see? It was wild, but. I feel like you could mix the end of, you lied about your ghost writer, you lied about, you could mix that with some idiom. It wasn't a bad blend, but when Emery said,

nah, that's Rocky's peoples, it made sense. I was like, okay, because there's no way you're playing that record with a blend 11 hours after it came out.

I was like, that's just, I was looking around to see if anybody else was going to feel the same wife. I'm like, yo, that's not weird

that there's record. it just dropped. He has a blend to it already with a whole different rhythm. Did he start out with that or he led it into it? No, no. It was it was he started with the record, the original Kendrick record. Okay. And then went into the blend and I'm looking like, bro, this song came out not even 12 hours ago. How do you have this? That means you was up working on this as soon as it dropped. Big week for this event. Big week for DJs. It was crazy, but it made sense because that's Rocky's crew. So I'm like, oh.

Also, why, like, why are you working on? Play you for you. And just let that rock because that could play out of function. And that another thing, I don't like the videos I'm seeing. Are people like, yo, niggas in New York is dancing and not like us. Real New York people are not sitting up there dancing to that shit. The transplants are dancing to that. You put that shit on in a spot in New York, and the only people that's going to dance to it is people who dislike Drake and niggas from L.A.

Nobody's really dancing to that song. I've seen plenty of New Yorkers dance to similar mustard beats. Why wouldn't they dance that? Okay. You ain't really feeling that bop like that You didn't remember when mustard control I think it's cool I don't want to hear it in a New York In New York party

I've seen everyone dance to YG Tadala Oh yeah Every Every We was dancing a tutet and boot it You don't think we're gonna dance to To mustard

Today I'm talking about today What goes off today I think LA music goes off today According to the timeline That's gonna be In New York I think that song works

With everything that's going on Now, I don't know if it'll work a month from now. Without the beef? Right now what's happening? No one cares about that song. Without the beef, nobody cares about... Like, in New York and a party, nobody cares about that song without the beat. Oh, of course.

Hell no. Yeah. Ove-ho. It works. Ove-ho is fucking hilarious, though. The memes and shit that they were putting, people dancing to that was actually very funny. Yeah, but like DeMara said, if it wasn't beef attached. Oh, no, yeah, of course.

But then Kendrick wouldn't make a song like that if there was no beef. But I don't care what happens from this. point on. Honestly, I don't, I'm just... That's cab. No, I'm bro, I'm telling you. I just, I don't, I can't, it's just like, what we, which one is this now? Which one did he just drop 10 hours? It's too much of that, bro. I don't know how to

fucking... It's like, all right, man, just let me know when it's done and let's collectively just listen to the shit and I'll let you know which music I like more. But as of right now, I think Drake has made the better songs and has the better bars. Kendrick has made some, like I said, not like us I like. I like

euphoria. meet the grams. I don't think I'll go back to that much, but I get it. If people like it, I understand. But I'm only looking at Drake to really reply. I know technically Kendrick would be on the clock, but with that white flag,

Kendrick could be quiet right now and he probably would be looked at as the Victor. If it ended right now, I'd say Kendrick won. Of course you would. That's not enough chorus. It is. Why are you saying, of course, and everybody knows he's an OD Drake dick sucker? Thank you. But no, but he's going to say that because he doesn't want.

Because he doesn't want to look like an OVO dick sucker. That's why. No, it's not at all. I'm just being objective in this battle. Like I said, I think at one point, Drake was up. I currently think Kendrick's up. Drake can go back up. But you think Kendrick is up because he put out more music.

No. I don't think that he put out better. It's not about the volume. I think he's just done better timing in releasing. So it's timing is better. It's in a battle that's huge. Got it. That's probably the most important thing in a beef.

Listen, it's subjective, man. If you feel like Kendrick won or is winning, cool, man. For the record, I want Drake to win. It's not about who I'm wanting. I'm just listening to the music, bro. And the music that I'm listening to, I listen to Family Matters. I listen to The Heart Part 6. I listen to Euphoria.

I listen to push-ups. Family Matters is the one. I mean, it's cool, but I don't think I'll be really playing it. That Family Matters record is. I know what that record is going to do, put it like that. I'm not deaf. I know what not like us. is going to do. I get that. So I mean, I just, to me personally, the music, the bars,

the flows, the cadences, I think in those departments, Drake is ahead. But that's just me. You know, I'm OVO, whatever they want to call me. OVO. OVO, whatever. You're the mole, ma'all. Phone doesn't work. I don't care what y'all saying about me online. I can't see. Mole, by the way. Sorry. Who said that? Look at him. He can't be the mole.

He hates Kendrick. I don't hate Kenrick. Yeah, he would never play both sides. Mall being the mole would be the least believable thing of all time. I'm just not a, I don't care about this shit enough to be a mole. I'm just. What? You think I care about this rat beef enough to be a mole?

I think you care enough about Drake. To be a mole? Oh, no, to not be a mole. No. Like, if there was a situation where you could get close to Kendrick's camp and feed Drake in I believe that might be the case. You wouldn't feed, you wouldn't do anything to hurt Drake. So you think that if I had a chance to get info from Kendrick,

I would and then go feed it to Drake? You know I'm older than all of these niggas? The fuck I look like working for these niggas. Are you crazy? Not working for you. You could just form a relationship with them. I have a relationship with Drake. Not Drake.

Kendrick. I don't have a relationship with Kendrick. And I'm not going to develop a relationship being a mole. I'm not doing. The fuck you're talking to. It's a tight crew over there. Never. I'm laughing at Whitney

Who? All right She's went She's went through enough Yeah And that, yeah Yeah What'd you said?

So you go say Hi to Whitney See In conclusion In conclusion I think currently Kendrick is winning But I think

Kendrick does You don't believe that But Can we go Damaris Find a lie detector company We're gonna bring Let's do it

Let's do it Did you guys Remember that show Strap this dig up To the lie detector He's lying No I was Trying to

lie to myself that Drake was winning and I relist in everything. Kendrick is winning. I'm not saying it's a fucking full landslide, but I don't think last night helped. That's all I'm saying. I do think Kendrick does need to address this mole and him being tricked about the daughter thing.

Oh, so he's down. Oh, what was said? I think he needs to address it. I think he needs to address it. I think he needs to address the women beating thing. If he doesn't address the Dave thing, I don't really care because that's like that's so wild that I don't even know if you need to say. But Roy, what is addressing it do? Because we just said we don't like Drake when he just starts like,

sounds like he's explaining and not rapping. I think it's smart. If Kendrick never explicitly says, I never beat my woman or whatever. I gave you guys a full example of what he could have done instead of over explaining. If I'm a pedophile, why have you guys all worked with me for this long?

Done. That's sickening what Drake said to me. Y'all killing him for saying, yo, if I'm a pedophile, I would have been arrested already. I think a nigga going that angle is way, worse. Yeah, they would have, I don't agree or they would have killed them. Why are y'all working with me? Yeah, they'd have to kill him for that. They'd have to kill him for that.

What? It might be a diss to the people. He better not ever say no shit like that. Is this shit not trying to get what's on you off you to the next person? If I'm such a pedophile, why the fuck do y'all work with me? No, no. But then on that at that point, now he's mudding his whole crew. Yeah, no, that's like, to the people that are closest to him. Like, this just, I just think that's what. Okay, okay, I'm not a pedophile, but if I was and y'all are calling me one, why do you work with me? All of you. And that would be the best way to sum that whole thing up. Because if I'm not a pedophile, unless I'm in court, because I'd fight that

to fucking death. If somebody just calling me a pedophile, I know that's so untrue that I would probably laugh at it. But if it caught some steam, I would address it quickly in that type of way. Now, I think Kendrick needs to explain the wife beating allegations. I'm saying he needs to do a whole record about what went down. But you want him to do like a red table. But you got something on your jacket, right? What you mean? Meet the Grahs was a red table talk. Nah, but you...

That shit should have been hosted by Jada. She should have been talking like Who Kid on that record. I agree. That would have... That's the visual we needed. If you put a fake Sandra, a fake Dennis and Jada Pinkett Smith at the red table for a visual,

that's a win. Now that eats. That would go crazy. Your mind. See? I should have ghosted the pedophile shit. That'd be the sickest writing credit to ever. Hip-hop one, man. I'm just so happy to be of age and witness this battle.

I'm ecstatic as a fan of hip-hop. I think we all are. So you stop using words. I am ecstatic. But you're not. Yes, I am. You're not. I was doing your house done with this shit last night.

No, last night. I wasn't in the house. I was actually outside. And yes, last night I was finished. What changed from last night to now? What do you mean? No. Like, all of a sudden are you?

No, I was appreciative of it. I can be appreciative of something and then be like, all, you'll stop. I love it. Keep going. I think if I didn't do this for a living, I wouldn't be tired of it. If that makes sense.

Drake gave us fucking six Kendrick records in like a week and a half span. I don't even like Kendrick like that. But just this is good. This is great. Keep going. My critiques to Heart Part 6 are just critiques.

I'm so happy he dropped. I love that he's rapping, rapping. And before we thought, you guys do think that Kendrick should still release a song called the Heart Part 6? I think he could. I don't think he should.

You can do whatever. I think he could, yeah. Of course he can. Do whatever the fuck he wants. Because knowing that, because now he can, that six has such a deep meaning in Drake's career. And obviously the heart is the heart series. So it's the perfect meeting of two namesake staples.

And there's so many flips that Kendrick can make in doing so with just that six alone. That's why I think if he has the bars for it and he has the scheme to do it, do it. No, I think he should do the hard part six and not address Drake or this situation whatsoever. Make another classic heart record and people will forget about Drake's hard part. But it has to be good. If he names it the Hart Part 6, it forever lives next to this record. True. But it has to be good.

If you make it good, people won't forget. But if you make it, it has to be phenomenal. To the level, if you let time pass and you do to the level what he did on Heart Part 5 with that rollout and the visuals and everything, people probably be over the battle by that point. And it'll move on and just be part of the great heart series. Yeah. All right, well, I'm all talked out for the day. I'm going to go back and, you know, just continue to live off the grid for a few days.

Listen, man. Rory, how was Mexico? It was good. I overestimated bringing a toddler. I've traveled with tomorrow pretty much every trip, but this one was just... We were doing too much. Too much traveling, too much going back and forth to different places.

So you underestimated. Oh, what did I say? Over here. Oh, yes, under-estimated. Tragistically. It was a lot. Still a great trip. But yeah, 14 hours in an airport with a toddler to then do a red-eye flight and then land here and come right to the studio.

Yeah, I'm exhausted. Yeah, it was a week of just chilling for me. It's funny because I was, me and our Biggs was laughing. Because I was like, yo, you know, you got out of town for a while. You packed so much shit and you think you're going to. I use two outfits. And the rest was literally basketball shorts and t-shirts just chilling in the house.

Like, I, and had a great time. We ordered, watched every game, every night, ordered food, smoke, chill, walk the beach a little bit. That's how it would be when you're chilling with your siblings, though. Like, when you're chilling with your siblings, it's just kind of like home and it's just like,

I just get to turn off. Yeah, me and Biggs had a real. It was a really, really just chill, like, good time. Like, we had a good time. Just literally just us, too, just kicking it for like six days. You duel a D now. Yeah.

You who? I was in the hospital. Well, you guys were having fun on vacation. I was in the hospital helping my friend deliver her baby. Congrats. Thank you. He has the same birthday as Rory. Congrats.

Damn, that's a curse. You have that energy with 19 keys when he was here. Does he have your birthday? Yeah. I didn't know that. Now you didn't know. He's a 20th key. Yeah, exactly.

But yeah, man, just shout out to women in childbirth. Shout out to women. No, but no, but dead ass. Like, dead ass. Like, it's watching her go through what she went through is, we were in the hospital for five days. Was she listening to the records, like, through the process? Like, how'd she keep up with the beef?

So every time something would drop. So during the day, I was there, her mom would be there at night. So every time I would leave the hospital around 10.30 p.m. And be like, I'm exhausted. Like, I'm about to go home and go to sleep. Like, the next morning, I would see her. She was like, you ain't get no sleep last night, huh? Because she couldn't sleep because she was hooked up to a bunch of machines and monitors and contraction.

So every time with something dropped, she like, damn, I know Demaris up. Like, DeMaris's been at this hospital all day and can't go to fucking sleep because these niggas won't stop releasing records. I hope she named the child's, at least the middle name, Euphoria or Graham or like something to represent the moment. The time. Graham, why would you want to be associated with the Graham's after that? Why would you want to be associated with Euphoria if we get down there? None of them. None of them.

Shout out to Sebastian. but yeah, none of them. Good name. I like that name. Yeah. I golfed. I had a workout class. Shout out my cousin.

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the heart part seven hard part 12 oh I never ask you guys this before we close

all this shit, because I certainly saw it, because I'm on the pod socials, but I'm sure you guys were flooded. How much hate and visceral was sent your way for... Y'all always take the long time to time. Shut the fuck up. Why y'all? Y'all don't take this shit seriously.

You guys disappear. How did you guys deal with all that? I purposely did not look... My phone was broke. At one thing, I didn't check... I didn't see none of that. Any Reddit or community on Twitter the first day, like when I was on the flight,

after Kendrick replied. That was the only time I checked and I just put in the community, I chose me, I'm sorry. And then I left it alone. And I left it alone because there was nothing we could do about it. Yeah.

And this was obviously our trip was playing. Your birthday was long before. Yeah, everybody else was acting. I was on ass. First of all, we didn't pump fake you, we didn't lie to you. We have fucking lives. We have shit to do.

We work hard and give y'all free content all a goddamn day. If Roy wants to take a vacation for his birthday when he has a newborn child, won't stop crying and talking and walking. He can do whatever the fuck he wants to do. Form your own opinions because in this day and age,

people don't know how to form their own opinions. They take the opinions of their faves. Form your own opinions. We'll be back to give you ours. And on top of that, I did feel better about it. Like, when euphoria happened and we were on text, like, damn, maybe we should get on Zoom or whatever. Then I was really like,

where I'm not about to go run around Mexico City trying to find the right fucking Wi-Fi that can handle this just to have an in-the-moment combo. When all the records started dropping, I was like, I made the right choice. I'm not going to react to every single record here. And thank God, the last one that dropped was yesterday. And we're here to pod about the whole week.

And I knew. We would continue to have retracted statements. And it just would have been a mess if we keep reacting with episodes. I love that we got to do this with everything on the table. Like we could reflect what the week was rather than in the moment for every last fucking record. Yeah. Which is great. I love the people that did it.

I just liked for us that we were able to do it at the end. I knew it was clipped for us to do like some emergency situation when your phone was off the grid. And then I was texting, Roy, and he was like responding to my, the text were coming in so choppy. And he was responding to the text that I'd sent way earlier or later. And I was like, oh, this, we can't even have a decent text exchange. There's no way we can talk about this shit. Yeah. I was, I was, like, kind of like upset that my phone was fucked up.

But then I was like, no, I'm glad it is, though. So I could just like, I don't have to talk, tweet, nothing. just want to hear the records as they come out. We'll talk on Monday. So whose phone did you tweet the Fallout Shelter from? That was from my old phone. But after that, like it still says SOS now, no SIM. Like, I just, my phone wouldn't stay on.

So I just had to go get a new one. And I'm transferring all my shit. So I could stop looking like I'm back in the game with these two phones. Like, I'm not in the streets no more, you know what? Who do Biggs choose? And what? The week. Oh, as far as the music?

Yeah. Once not like us dropped, he was like, oh, shit, Drake won't have to drop. Like, he has to drop after this one. And once I got back to New York last night, that's when the Hart Part 6 dropped. And I hit him and was like, damn, like, he dropped. He shot another missile as soon as I landed.

And he was like, yeah, definitely. So I don't know how he felt about it. but knowing him, he probably likes that record, though. But we'll have to wait and see what happens from here. We'll talk to you on a couple of days. Hopefully we don't have to cover this shit anymore. No, I hope we do. We're going to.

This isn't the only conversation we're having about this. But you're the one that said that you think Drake has more to come? Do we have to talk about it, though? What do you think Drake's going to drop record or not? What are we going to come in here and not talk about it? I'm just Drake and Kendrick doubt. Like, I just don't want to talk about this. like I'm just you know what I mean

I'm just off that let's let's find something else to I think we just got the intro to where this is going to go but do we have to talk about it yes yes ma'am and I can't wait to fuck all right well we'll talk to you on a couple days be safe be blessed I'm that nigga he's just ginger peace

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