New Rory & MAL - Episode 267 | The People V.S. Mal

Episode Date: May 10, 2024

This feels like the fastest 48 hours we’ve ever had. All of our phones have been blowing up, but no one more than OVO Mal. We ask Mal if he feels differently about the beef following the response he received. We get into the dangers of the allegations that have come to the forefront of this conflict, SA & DV. We speculate who will drop next and why (33:00). Then we get into the antics that have happened off the microphone- multiple shootings and a label conspiracy (42:01). We predict more exchanges as Gunna & Future are set to release projects today (1:05:00). We step away from music and cover the legendary Tom Brady roast (1:20:55). Then the guys take time to clown Julian & Demaris about J. Cole living his best life on a beach. It’s time for voicemails! We have a fun (semi relationship) one today (1:28:01). Tune in as the crew discuss all of this + more!Follow The Birthday Boy: @ThisIsRoryFollow MAL: @MAL_ByTheWayFollow Demaris: @DemarisAGiscombeFollow Julian: @Julian__nicholas To watch the podcast on YouTube: https://bit.ly/NewRoryAndMALYouTube Don’t forget to follow the podcast for free wherever you're listening or by using this link: https://bit.ly/NewRoryAndMAL Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoicesSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

This is an I-Heart podcast. Guaranteed Human. He's not my best friend. If I ain't seen him in two years or talk to him in two years and you don't know who the fuck he is, it's not your best friend. We're going off this hypothetical

that they are reconnecting. He's back in town. He said that was his little homie that he ain't seen in a while. He didn't say that was his best friend. A little homie. Swear to God, he said that was my little homie. Oh, all right.

Well, I mean, sometimes you got to fuck your little homies, girls. Let him know who the big homie is. Let him know. I feel like we never left. A quick two days. My life has been a, my life was like in a neutral bullet right now.

I'm curious what your phone has been like the last two days because mine was... It's been a neutral bullet. Mine was blowing up about you. So I could only imagine what your phone was like. Why are your phone blowing up about me? Because the whole world was reacting to your reaction of a reaction of a reaction. We all do now. We react to a reaction of somebody reacting to an action.

To Drake reacting to Kendrick, who was reacting to Drake, who is reacting to Drake, who is reacting to Kendrick. Right. And now we're here. reacting. To people reacting to my phone about your reaction. So your phone was going off for 48 hours. Yes. I got some interesting text messages.

I got some interesting phone calls. Face-times. I got some great text messages from West Coast people that can't wait to have a conversation, not in that type of way, but would love to debate with you further. Oh, I thought you were about to say I can't go to L.A. no, no, no, no. Everything was love. And actually from the people you would, the public would think would like hate you that is super team Kendrick and it's publicly been. Nobody can't hate me, man.

I don't hate nobody. So you can't hate me. If you hate me, that's just weird. I don't hate nobody. I've been very clear throughout this thing. It's not hate. It's just, you know, I'm just kind of like befuddled at just the reactions. It's like, y'all don't really, like, I get it, you know what I mean?

But it's just like, stop. Like, we could stop at some point. I mean. But have fun though. Have fun now. But we're going to have to have a real conversation. Of course that clip went viral the way it did because it's clipped to a specific time of you yelling loud. And that'll always get people moving. Within context, yeah, actual conversation happened at one point. And everyone just thinks you screamed for two hours. Yeah. And I don't want that like, that's just so nasty because I'm not a screamer of pause. But it's just like, you know, just in that moment, I just felt like, you know, when you get frustrated that people just can.

can't like understand what you're saying. Yeah, my life. How do y'all not understand? Exactly. Yeah. So that's all. You guys understand why I'm always read all the time. I'm not mad at Ken.

People like, oh, you're so mad at Kendrick. I'm not mad at Kendrick. Why would I be mad at Kendrick? Why would I be mad at Kendrick? I'm not mad at Kendrick. It's not personal. It's not personal. It's not personal punch.

I don't even know if he's ever met Kendrick years ago, though. Not, not, I haven't like been around Kendrick in some years. But, you know, it's like I said, I fuck with Kendrick. Very, very clear about that. These are two of my favorite rappers of their times. by far. It's not even close. But, you know, just getting frustrated with people's just lack of comprehending what's happening and what's going on. But, you know, I got to stop feeling like everybody just is supposed to understand what I'm saying. I get in that zone

sometimes and I'm like frustrated. But it wasn't yelling at Kendrick. I'm not upset at Kendrick. I'm not just explaining that. Yeah, like I said, I'm not mad about anything. It's just like this is a very passionate, very like, you know, intense time. music. That's all. Well, I was talking with punch, and we were discussing how rap beef brings the worst out of everybody. At some point when you're debating, even, let's say fuck rap beef, just debating rap. At some point, someone is going to scream and get out of their character. I don't know why hip hop does that to us. Maybe it's because we love it so much. At some point, we're all going to yell. So Terris Martin tweeted that he

loves you. Maybe you just ate something wrong that day. Oh my God, he did. He said, I love more. maybe. I fuck with Terris. Terrence said me too. I forgot. His tweet was something like that. I love them all, but he maybe ate something wrong that day. Maybe he had cheese or meat.

Listen, man, these guys know me, man. I'm not, you know, I just, I'm, let me apologize to people that took what my passion was the wrong way. I'm not upset. I'm not angry. It's all music. It's all a good time. Even though I don't agree with what Kendrick is trying to paint, I understand it.

I mean, I would just want to shoot you, bail. of everyone that was under those comments, every last one of y'all has been melting down for an entire week on the timeline. Just because it's not audio, your thumbs were louder than mall for seven days straight. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Their thumbs are melted for the way they've been going off. And just because Maul expresses how maybe one side felt and the other side felt just in a different way, you guys were yelling just like that on the time. But Maul also has the platform to do so. There's a difference between tweeting at somebody and being in a studio

and having the ability to push. Yeah, I mean, but you know, there's visual aids. Like, there's a lot more that goes into what mall does versus. But again, I think it's just the power of people just seeing a clip and just taking that and, you know, trying to spin whatever they're trying to spin on it.

But no, I'm not upset at Kendrick. Because when I read that, I was like, what? I saw some guy on TikTok saying that I was the guy that gave Kendrick, like, some info. I was like, like, the stories that are coming from this, Something like, wait, me? Oh, yeah, you became the mall. That shit is insane.

Actually, me and Kendrick have been planning this since the BET Cipher in 2011. Oh. Yeah, we're that calculated. I'm just laughing at that type of shit. But, you know, it's all in a good sport. Nobody's upset. Well, I'm not upset. Well, now that you saw the fallout in the public, the matter of public opinion, not just on the beef, but more specifically directed at you, did that change your tone at all?

Do you feel differently about this situation? No. Oh, okay. Are you kidding me? Drake is still smashing. I wasn't sure if there was millions of people that disagree with you. You think I give a fuck with millions of people say millions of people can have bad taste. You know that, right?

Of course. Okay. As long as we know that part of it. That's been proven for centuries. I'm not one of those guys that thinks that because a restaurant has a high rating that the food is great. I'm not one of those. Let me go and see because a lot of people don't know what good food is. Yeah, but then a lot.

You live long enough to understand that part. But you're not as, no, it's not. All these restaurants you'll be going to is just for a picture in the ambium. The food is terrible. But then you go to some of those really fancy world-renowned restaurants and you get like this much food has no real flavor. Yeah. It just has the name.

Exactly. And that's not good food to me. I'd rather go to the Chinese spot that Drake and Kendrick go to. You're saying Kendrick is Philippe. Did I say that? No, I'm not saying Kendrick is Philippe. I'm just saying that that song. Wait, is Philippe bad?

To me, yeah, that shit is terrible. But just taste levels. That's all it is. No disrespect to Philippe to whoever made. You know what I mean? Like that shit is all that shit is trash to me. But it's just, it just taste level. I'm not going to get you started, but a lot of people would think that Drake would be more

on the side of the high name like a Philippe that everyone loves and goes to. That's the place they take pictures. That gets the most attention. But it doesn't have the best food when you get to the kitchen. Most people would say that in this food comparison. I hear you. I'm trying to get you started. Listen, bro.

I'm already started. Is that the case anymore, though, Rory? because not like us has been number one, which eclipsed euphoria, which is now sitting at number two. So Kendrick now occupies the top two spots on the charts. And not like us in its fourth day has over 12 million streams on Spotify alone, which is his first, not only his first solo number one, number one, but also in its fourth day, this is the most streams it's gotten. So it's still going up. Yeah. So maybe he is the Philippe.

Yeah. So anyone that is number one is Philippe now? We know why he's sitting at number one and number two. first of the biggest It's a common denominator in there somewhere There's a common factor in there somewhere These are Drake features It is a Drake features

It is a Drake's I'll give you that These are Drake and I said it before this beef started I said getting a beef getting into a beef With an artist like that It's gonna do way more for you Than you having a verse from an artist like that It's not even close We definitely had that conversation

That push made out better beefing with Drake Than if he just got a Drake feature For sure I agree with you there But I also want to say so what? Like, okay. No, I'm just saying, that's cool too. On that side, that's cool too. That's a stat on the- That's great. Yeah, he got there because of Drake. As long as you don't lose sight of that part.

You could say, so what? I'm cool with that. As long as we don't lose sight of that other piece. And I think it deserves the number one of the difficulty it takes to beat Drake, not only in charts, but in public perception. I think it's warranted, number one, outside of the song just being good. y'all y'all y'all that's me giving credit to drake it takes a lot to beat that guy no no we we know that but i'm just you know story of adedon didn't go number one as long as long as long as we keep that so what is valid to i'm i'm on the numbers always do i think it's great and congratulate drake for being the highest stream or second highest stream person of all time beat the beetles i think that's amazing but i don't really care in this i also don't care about kendrick going number one

on this. And let's clarify that these are Spotify shirts. These are not Billboard. Just want to clarify that. What did you try? No, don't, don't. Not like us is number one on Billboard. My album went number 10 on Spotify amongst all genres. Now you're trying to discredit me because it wasn't on Billboard? Yeah. See, I don't even, you part of the machine. Spotify is the real number. It's not

a machine. It's not. You compromised. No, I'm just saying, like, I just want to make that clear that Taylor Swift is still sitting at the top of Billboard. But she doesn't count. She's like. Yeah, she's out. Yeah, being number two, on Taylor right now being number. Well, Tommy Richmond is number two right now. That's, but that's fire record.

It's fire. I love that for him. But that's Billboard. But he was talking about Spotify. Yeah. And comparatively, Drake has had, if we're talking, Billboard, 5, 13 total, but 5 solo number ones.

So. Yeah. They're both pretty good at making music. See, that, after like the dust, I won't say the dust has settled per se. No, it's still, well, no. It's still floating around at I'm over. It's still very foggy in here.

Oh, Roy. It's the only thing people are discussing. But now that we're getting into these other intricates of numbers and that whole thing, this is when it starts to get a little exhausting for me. Because it's like, who gives the fuck? We already know who Drake is number-wise. It's not what we're here to talk about. So once you get in that little back and forth, it's like, well, what was the point?

Right. If numbers were the point, then why even have the battle? I mean, but, you know, again, back to the start of this, we knew that this was obviously going to be one of, if not the biggest moment that we've seen in hip hop music as far as battling goes. I mean, obviously the J and Nas battle is still probably bright there as well. But this one, just because of everything that's added to it and attached to it now, with social media being such a thing now, and people have so many different platforms, media outlets and things like that, like this is, this just feels like a bigger, a bigger moment. Do you think not like us being number one though, fuck numbers. Just it being number one and it playing during numbers and they say being number one?

Let me land it. It being number one, it playing at NBA games, it playing at tennis matches, it playing on the news. It's hurting. It's hurting Drake's brand. So I'm not saying numbers-wise matter or a number one slot matters. I'm saying what that number one is represented and where it's spread. Is that affecting his brand that a peasant? Petto Anthem is playing in the NBA playoffs.

Tennis players are walking out to it. I don't think it's hurting Drake's brand. I think that it may feel like that and it may look like that. But I think ultimately, once this settles, I think it's going to hurt Kendrick's brand more. Only because if, if Drake is found and proven not to be a petto, which I know he's not. Once the public sees that, I mean, is this not one of the worst things you can call a person?

But agreed. Yes. I'm talking about when it's not who they are. It's up there. It's one of the worst things you could say about it. No, to me, this is the worst. Yeah. I don't think there's any other thing you can label a person ever.

Like snitching and all that shit, I get that shit with street shit. I understand that part. Rapist might be worse. I mean, I mean, you're pedophile. You are raping. This is the same thing. It's just with a certain. You know what I mean?

So it's like. I'll throw anti-s. Semetic in there too. Well, that's that's Taylor Swift and then we're going with that number two. Oh, we're going to the two spot. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

All right. Taylor Swift and anti-sevism always number one, no matter what. Exactly. That effect. Never forget. So it's like, if you're not, if you're not that and somebody labels you that, to me that's some of the craziest shit ever. Okay.

I'm just speaking for me. I'm only ever speaking for me in my taste level. I think labeling somebody that and they're not, that's not who they are, is some of the worst shit you could ever. Whether we want to say it's entertainment or not, there's certain shit you just don't even, even in entertainment, even behind the guys of entertainment and comedy and things like that,

there's certain shit you just don't ever play with. And to me, that's at the top of the list. I mean, let's go with history, though, with a court of public opinion. Is the damage already done? Let's say Drake comes out, and of course I hope that on a moral level and outside of a rat beef that he can prove to the world

that, yo, I don't touch kids, this was fucking crazy. Is the damage done? But he's trying to do that. I said, yo, he's explaining this. The public doesn't care. You'll see. rapists go to jail covered for a year. The whole trial, they'll sit for 20 years, find out they're innocent, they'll come out of jail,

won't cover it all. They'll be a rapist for the rest of their life. Is the damage done already, even if he proves otherwise? I don't know. I don't think so, because I don't think that nobody truly believes that. I don't think nobody believes that. I think there's plausible deniability. Like, there's enough, Kendrick wouldn't have jumped out like that if there wasn't

enough smut in like the public perception of him that it fit. So the fact that we're even speculating it is enough, Kendrick won. I think in that regard. Who's speculating it? I don't think nobody's speculating that. I mean, I think whatever sides you're on, you've made up your mind. I don't think nobody's speculating that.

But I was looking, I was wrapping my mind around, okay, who, I know they're not, no one will compare to Drake, but who's someone that's in a very high position of power that got charged with this kind of level of thing, but then it was all bullshit and they were they welcome back to the community. James, James Gunn, the director that did Guardians of the Galaxy

got, they, he always had, like he was talking to young girl, but he never did anything. It was like weird. He had a really dark sick sense of humor and he wasn't talking to young girls. He just made really fucked up inappropriate jokes. And like in the height of the Me Too movement, someone took all his old tweets, all his old post and put it on like this 10 page doc, all of his like fucked up shit in like one doc. And they're like, well, this is fuck. You got to get him out of here. But he didn't do anything. So then he got booted off that project, got like ripped out of Marvel. And then for years was like ghost. And then DC signed him again because obviously all the shit was bullshit, nothing, he didn't actually do anything.

And now he's working on like the new gardens of the galaxy movie. So there is like a path to redemption. But I feel like you have to like at least get off that public. You have to get through the public ridicule that comes with it. True or not? Yeah. I just don't know how you go about that. I mean, I saw, but I'm not saying conveniently, but I would try to clean this shit up if I'm not a pedophile.

All the girls that were in those videos that were all over the. the timeline that everyone was accusing Drake of either grooming or being a pettoe towards, all conveniently came out on the same day and said, hey, that's not how it went. Even the girl that made the money in the grave beat was like, you guys misunderstood me. I don't understand how you guys didn't understand me when she flat out said we were in high school when it happened. Cool. Everyone cleaned it up. And if I'm Drake, I'd do the same thing. I'm not accusing him of doing brand cleanup. If someone calls me a pedophile and I wasn't creeping on a chick, I'd say, yo, can you tell these people that we have no relationship like that?

even that kind of fell flat to me. They all came out in one day. They were on a bunch of podcasts I'd never heard of, making statements with a bunch of people I'd never seen before, and it still fell flat. So I guess that's my question of how can you even turn that around if that is not even the truth?

I mean, to me, it's nothing to turn around. I don't think that's a real thing. I think because somebody said it in a record, okay, like this is a battle people are going to say things to try to, assassinate somebody's character and demean somebody. But that's not a real thing. You know what I mean?

It's just not a real thing. And then when he did explain it in the heart part six, y'all said, oh, why is he always explaining it? I felt like if somebody said that about me, I'm going to explain that too. Like, whoa, hold up. Let's be clear here. That ain't, that's not true. I don't understand this is a battle and all that.

But, like, fam, it's certain shit you just not going to just throw out there. Like, that's insane to throw that on somebody's jacket. I agree. You know what I mean? So it's just like, you know, it's not a real thing, but it's because of the moment and that's what was said. I think that you have to address it, but you're saying it fell flat. It fell flat because it wasn't a real thing to begin with. How do you know that?

I'm just saying that turning around the public's opinion. Bro, you think that if Drake was having sex with underage girls, Kendrick would have been the one to put that out there like that? No, I'm not. We would have been new that. I'm just saying, like, I just don't want to speak so definitively about things. Like, we don't know. None of us know.

we don't know what each other does behind. Like, we don't know. In that sense, yes, you're right. I don't know. I've never seen this man lay down in his bed with whomever he lays down with. No, never seen that. I'm just going to, but I can say the same thing about a lot of other people in my life that I know. For sure, yeah.

So it's like the same thing. I would be completely and totally fucking floored if that were true. I would be like, this is fucking insane. And there's nothing I won't come on my platform and say about how I feel about that if it's found to be true. I don't fuck with shit like that. But because I feel so strongly that is not true, it's crazy to me that somebody's throwing that out there with somebody's jacket.

Like, that to me is something you don't play with. Okay, well, then what do you think about some of the videos? Even though, let's go with the 17-year-old that came on stage that said somebody else from OVO picked her out of the crowd, whatever. She said her age. Drake was like, whoa, whoa, you're going to get me in trouble. And it seemed like he made the right move when he found out her age. But then continued on and was like,

you know, you really going to get me in trouble. I felt your breasts and all. This was all after she said she was 17. Is that just a mistake or is that a red flag? I'm going to go on the side of a mistake than a red flag because of it was part of this. It was on stage at the show in that moment. So I can understand that. Now, if this was something where they're just at dinner chilling at a table and that happens,

then it's like, he got that. That's what you were doing at dinner? Like, but on stage, you know, that's part of the show. I kind of, again, I'm not saying it's right. So that's what I'm saying on the side of a mistake. I'm not going to say that's a red flag and this is what he's doing. This is his bag. No, like, I'm not going to go on that side of it.

I don't think it would warrant a full, this man's a pedophile and I'm going to rhyme it and make it a number one record. But it was a little weird after he found out. In the beginning, I was like, oh, how would he know? At first I didn't know why people were outraged in the beginning of the clip. I was like, well, if he didn't know, this is some ACON shit. When ACON got in trouble and he was like, this is a 21 plus club. The fuck is security letting his girl in for. It was the after effect where I was like, all right, I kind of see what people are saying.

He knows the age. Why are you doubling down on the freakiness? So that raises flags with people. And when someone has something that rhymes that well and you have at least one bit of video evidence, the court of public opinion is going to be. very difficult to turn around, especially when the girl, and I'm not saying Drake put her up to it, or UMG or her employer, I'm just saying she didn't really clean anything up. Her just saying, you know, I didn't feel violated. Cool. We didn't say you did in the beginning. We just said he was

a little freaky and weird after he found out your age. Yeah. That's all it was. So back to my original point of I don't really know how this can be cleaned up for Drake no matter how much controlled damage he does with it. He could, every girl could come out. I don't think it's no damage though. The only way in this world, unfortunately, is just go make good music. And hopefully people will forget,

which is fucked up, but that's the world we live in. Go make another good movie. We forget about the nasty actor. Yeah. I mean, it's, I think Kendrick played it so well because it's the court of public opinion,

which we've learned doesn't abide by the due process. There's no due process with, It's just, court of public opinion. It's just whoever's, if there's enough speculative evidence and there's enough dots to connect this, that there could be some,

what of a truth, a through line, hammer it. I think that's exactly what Kendrick did. So Kendrick doesn't have anything. I'm not saying Kendrick. I'm not saying, like, no.

I mean, now to, inversely, we can have the conversation about the video coming out of the, the employees, the security team at the hard rock the in 2014.

And the woman is saying, you know, I shouldn't be saying this. You know, Kendrick, there was a, Kendrick beat up this. him interface is all bloody all that shit look that seems like more hard evidence like that seems

pretty concrete so yeah i don't but again just kind of respond to that on the record i don't know how that plays out obviously that that at the time didn't take a legal route so it seems like they internally figured it out nothing but drake took a legal route no no so they're both it's just kind of stuck in the space but drake has to clean up and do damage control i want to make this just a Drake thing. I think since that video has resurfaced. What do we find more believable out of these two? And it's nasty that we got out of that second. It's nasty.

I don't even want to like have that combo, but I get your question. It's out there. We just, we just consumers of the music at this point. We're just talking about what we heard. I don't know either of these gentlemen. I really don't. I've had a few conversations with Drake. I don't know. I'm just, okay. Say this was a guy named fucking Dante and a guy named fucking Aaron. Right. Who's Dante and who's Aaron? Dante, they're saying Dante, they're saying Dante is a pedophile, right? That's right. He's a fucking rap superstar. And like, oh, he's a pedophile, right? And then they're saying Aaron beat his, his, his fiance. Why do we need to speculate? I'm just saying, like, let's just say we can just remove the names from it. Remove the names from it. Can I, can you think it's a more believable, believable act? Can I give you a very political answer that? Why you want to go? This ain't CNN. This is R&M. It's the true. What are we doing?

Nice. Say CNN? What are we doing? He ain't got to be political here. Judging by, judging by history and percentages, both of them are guilty. Oh, see.

When is the last time? Okay. You told my, you're talking about, you're talking about, you're talking about, just in the scope of the shit that happens in the world.

That's what you're talking about. Yes. I'm talking about. By the numbers, if you're talking about a fucking pop superstar. Listen, I don't want to put. Being a pedophile.

I don't want to put. Have we seen it before? They tried it with somebody. else that was a pop superstar. Never found nothing. Fair. You know, I'm just saying, where we going with this? Where are we going? Where we going? I'm Mike Jack Prince. Yeah, no, it's a lot of comparisons happening in the history. I'm just saying. I'm not putting it on every rich, famous person that they are a pedophile, but we have seen in the last 10 years that there is a community amongst the elite that is a little fucking petty. And I don't mean. Finally.

And I've ran into my. fair share of pedophiles as we've joked on this podcast. They were not rich and famous. Matter of fact, they was broke, drunk, and nasty. Yeah, that was like the tubis of the, uh, pedophiles. I don't even know if I put, they didn't even have a channel. They have a YouTube account. They have a street team. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. They had a flip cam maybe. Yo, molesting somebody with a flip cam is wild. Yo, turn around, turn around. You see, you know you had to flip the phone about the whole it up like that.

And then how long it would take to upload that footage? You're dedicated. That's not funny on that stop. It's cool. Listen, I liked the route Drake took. Oh, I thought you was about to say something else. Oh, all right. What he said?

I like that. That's because you hanged with OVO. That's why. No, I thought you was about to say some old up the shit. No, I just, you said I like and I was like, and I was like, where is he going? Where were you in 1996? Uh, something in Manhattan.

I don't know. judging by the numbers yeah it's not that crazy to think that someone rich and powerful could end up in a fucking pedophile ring ask Ryan Garcia I understand that I understand that

I don't think it's crazy to think numbers wise that somebody would beat their wife because that's very fucking common so no I don't think it's crazy to hear unfortunately anybody in the world if you found out that they be so much

I'm talking about artists superstars of this caliber of this caliber coming from rap when is the when we have Have we ever seen that? Dr. Dre is on record of one of the biggest women abusers ever. I know no one will say it.

I know everyone's scared to say that. But he's not a rap superstar, bro. Dr. Dre was not a superstar. He was the first billionaire in this space. Rap, rap, rap, rap, rap. Just because he had a ghostwriter? Rap, rap, rap. Dr. Dre is not a rap superstar, bro.

What? He's not. He's not a rap superstar. What are you talking about? He did the Super Bowl. he's a hip-hop superstar. Is that what you're just saying as a lyricist? I'm talking about as a rapper.

As a rapper. I don't understand why I got to come ahead. Why is that important to the conversation? Like the argument that you guys are having, why is him rapping importance to conversation? He's still a superstar. Because I'm talking about a rapper, a rap superstar, not somebody that's huge in business,

a business mogul, one of the greatest producers ever. I'm talking about somebody that is strictly an artist. that has beaten their wife. I'm not, no, I'm just saying, when have we seen, that's what I thought you were getting at? When have we seen any of those guys actually be found to be a pedophile?

Oh, I don't, none that I know of. Oh, no, African Mamba. The, the, the creator, if you will, of this shit is a known pedophile. Okay, that. After that. Isn't, did he being charged right now with sex trafficking in underage girl?

I don't know if it's of underage girls. I really don't. I think it's underage girls. I don't know. The one girl, didn't she say she was 16 or 17? If you're sex trafficking, do you really draw the line at age? That's kind of my, where I'm at with it. But do you know what sex trafficking is?

Yes, I get it that there's like, you want to it. If you fly a girl in and have consensual sex, you're sex. Yeah, because you cross-staffirc. I know the loophole, but I don't think that's what was going on over there in some cases. I'm just saying we've never seen, we've never seen if we have, it's very few and far in between if it goes from being a pedophile or being an, and an abuse of it. spouse partner. So you're saying numbers.

Numbers wise, it's more likely that. I'm just saying we've seen more of that than we've seen that. Not saying we've never seen that. I'm just saying

more commonly we get stories of physical abuse on their spouses and things. Because that's more common in the world. Like, we're trying to put a microscope

on hip hop which is unfair to hip hop because the world is way crazier and shittier than hip hop. The things that we've been told in this moment. And I'm saying

by numbers, there's probably more wife beaters in there is. This is such a nasty conversation. But this is what we've been presenting with. And this is what I told the Washington Post. Once the dust settled, we were about to have a conversation that was going to be so nasty. This is what I didn't want to have. That's all I'm saying.

That's why I said what I said in the beginning of this episode, that to me, putting that on somebody when you don't know if that's true or not, it's some of the crazy shit ever. That's all I'm saying. But also don't say in the same breath that I beat my wife if I did not beat my wife. true. I'm with you on that. I'm definitely with you on that. And I mean, you know, the kid thing.

I thought it was all fairs and rap battles. Oh, no, it is. I thought. I'm still on that. I'm on that side. I'm on that side. Not when it comes to shit like calling somebody. So there are rules and rap battles. In life. Just going that on somebody's, yo, that's, he's a pet. What? No, but he didn't just say it. Like, he said it because there was enough. Is there enough? There was enough. If there's enough that it's been the, the crux of this whole thing since it came out. Is he is he enough? If there wasn't anything plausible that people could see in Drake that this might not be true, this would have gone away so fast. There was a reason why it's still hanging on. I think the thing was, or what I thought in the beginning was because people were saying Drake likes young girls.

I think people took that because a young girl could be a 21, 22, 23 year old. It could still be a groomer. It's not pet-file, but I'm just saying a young girl could be 22, 20. That's a young girl to somebody that's 35, 34, 36 years old. I think he's 37. Whatever he is. I'm just saying that could be considered a young girl. So I think when people hear that, they automatically go to underage girl or a fucking minor.

And it's like, no, if I'm 34 and I like a 22 yo, I'm not doing anything illegal. Yeah, but the goal post, like the shift happens, like if you have an affinity for younger women, so then just do the math. So if Drake's 37 and likes women that are 20, okay, well, when he was 25, you probably liked women that are. I'm not giving you that. I'm like 17. Now you sound crazy. No, I'm saying like if you, if your thing is younger women, it's just because he's getting older,

now he has a luxury of sticking a 21-year-olds. Soling for X for pedophiles is crazy. You sound crazy as fucking. He was 15. He liked girls that. What are you talking? I don't know. Everything about pedophiles.

I just don't think it like works in a stagger that way. What is that? I think if you like children. I'm saying if your thing is younger women, when you're 23, you probably don't want to be with a 21 year old girl. You probably want to be with a woman that's a girl that's 17, 16, because you like that dynamic of being that much older than your person that you're with. That's my point. So when you're 37, she's 20. I'm 17 years older than her. Yeah, it's legal. It's cool.

But like, yeah, she's still younger shit. But like, there's a bigger gap. Then maybe you are into, maybe you're into grooming. I don't think that means. Yeah. I think grooming is probably the more appropriate term to use, at least when it comes to this situation. Like, I don't think if a 60-year-old likes children when that child becomes 30 and they're 90, they're like, oh, I like them now because they're 30. No, I think they like the child. By the way, they're calling Metro Boomin, Metro Groomin, and I'm sorry, that's fucking

hilarious. Why they're calling him that? His old tweets. So Metro's old tweets popped up and they're nasty. Even in the wild, wild west of Twitter. But wasn't he young when he tweeted all this shit? These are all from 2011? Some of them, he was underage, but.

Oh, so I just see 2011, 2012, 2014. Yeah, just a couple. She might be young, but she's ready. Well, that's a good lyric. No, though. What was my... In 2014, he said she might be young.

How old was Metro movement in 2014? But also, who is he... That's also an Alicia Keys song written by Drake. Swag. If we're being real. That might be young when I'm ready. Out of context, he's all... I mean, they don't look great at all.

But, like, out of context, who knows what the fuck he's referring to here? And that's also probably another lyric. Got your little sister on the Mali. She didn't ran through the whole squad. Like, I'm sure you just didn't randomly think that at 11 a.m. It's probably a lyric. There was like a Miley Cyrus one that kept popping up. Like, he was like.

No, that was, MacMaine. That was MacMaine. That was his rollout. He kept tweeting about, yeah. His rollout was Miley Cyrus turning 18. That was nasty. Yeah.

Anyways, though, like aside from this conversation that, I mean, I'm glad we had, but it was weird. I don't think anyone else is going to have that combo, and I'm happy we did. But where does this go now? Now that we're talking about the rebrand and how he's going to come back, pause, is Drake putting out more music? I fully believe that he is not done here. I think he saw the reply to...

Do you think Drake is never going to put out music in here? No, I mean, in regards to this. Oh. Like direct, not just mentioning it on an album. I think he saw the reaction to Hart Part 6. I don't think he feels the best about Hart Part 6. because I don't think he felt great making it. I can hear it.

Knowing Drake and how he still holds on, he just pushed three years after he said he was done. Like unwarranted for no reason just because that's who Drake is and I like my rapper's petty and I like them to never forget shit. I think we have a lot more Drake music on the way very soon.

I think that's a fair assumption. I mean, I think that in this moment, artists of these two their caliber. I think this only gets them inspired creatively. And I think their minds are just on a wheel. They're thinking, they're writing, they're listening to a bunch of different music. They're creating, obviously, records. So yeah, I think that

I think that this energy rolls over into album, EP, something like that. Definitely with some of this energy still, attached to it. I think that. I just think that I think the sequence and the cadence of this thing changed. And I believe Drake is no longer like, I don't care what he's doing over there. I'm going to make this. I'm going to make what I'm making. I'm going to create what I'm creating. And I'm going to drop that when I want to drop it regardless of what he's doing. So he could put out two, three, four, five records this week. I'm over, I'm over here,

creating this. So kind of what Kendrick's strategy was? I don't know if that was Kendrick's strategy. I think Kendrick obviously prepped, again, going back to the beginning of this thing, we knew that Kendrick hadn't, his tour was over in 2022. He hasn't been really active since then. So he obviously had more time to prep for this thing. He had more time to think about it and to think about other different angles and how he was going to come out of this parlayed at into his album and things like that. I think that Drake coming off of tour and jumping right into this,

like I said, he would have to become a different person because this is a battle mode. This is not just Drake creating songs that he thinks the world is going to love and accept. This is tailored for exactly specific individuals. It's a different energy that comes with this music. And I think that he's still in that mode of creating. I just think that he's not no longer releasing it as

this is a shot. This is a mis... This is a director. This is going to be a complete thing. Because even if you listen to Family Matters, Family Matters sounds like a record that would be on a Drake album or a Drake project. Yeah, the beat for sure. You know what I mean?

Like the music changing up the way it did. That sounds very familiar coming from Drake. I'm not even saying battle mode per se or timing. I'm saying Kendrick's strategy of no matter what Drake says or does, I'm sticking to what I'm doing over here. After Family Matters came out, meet the Grams. seven minutes later, no matter what he says. After that, I'm not.

It was mad. It mattered. It mattered what he said. It definitely mattered what he said. It goes back to our conversation. Because I was saying. Because I wasn't working. That's why not like us came.

It did what I was supposed to. It stepped on an amazing, but that's all it did. Let me finish. Let me finish. But did you, to our conversation last episode, Drake over-explaining gay validity. We have not even really addressed Kendrick's allegations because he won't.

He's focused. on what he's doing. No matter what Drake says, I'm putting out not like us. No matter what I'm putting out Meet the Grimes. I don't even need to hear what he's saying. I'm not going to talk about Dave Free. I'm not going to talk about my wife. I'm only focused on what I'm doing and my shit about you. Yeah.

So I think, yes, Drake should take that strategy. Don't be so reactive. Stick to your plan of what you want to do. Because clearly Kendrick's not addressing anything and Kendrick, I'm sorry, and Drake is. Which has made him look more guilty, unfortunately. Made me guilty. I'm just, I'm giving you perception.

Okay, that's true. So what you're saying with Drake going, taking a minute and maybe doing a EP or an album or whatever that's focused on, I don't give a fuck what Kendrick is saying or doing, I'm going to do my shit, I'm a shoot at him and focus on my music. That's the strategy Kendra got. That's where I think Drake should have stayed. After push-ups, I think he should have gotten in his mode of what he thought was he should have done. Even though I can feel for him, if someone called me a pedal, I'd be sitting there like, well, new strategy but if he stayed focused

you keep asking why no one is looking for evidence or is pushing on Kendrick like yo how come he hasn't addressed any of this if you've seen with every record he has not paid attention to one thing Drake has said and stayed with the records that he had recorded already this is my strategy going in

fucking horse blinders on I'm just going to post what I have and it worked and last night Drake posted this to his story I mean, there's such a criticism. Maybe that'd be. But we die.

Where people want to... Shout out to Jeff Dealey. It's a lot of members of me by a lot of people. Many people... A person who used to live with a baby. The loss was born. So it's a sequence from a show on Netflix. That's basically...

It's about a real estate mogul that faces bankruptcy, political and business interests colliding. and it's pretty much him defending his empire until the end. So with no caption, Drake posts this. And people are saying, and this is what I, not people, what I believe, I think he saw the public opinion, saw that he's losing this. He notices how big Don't Likis has gotten, not like us, pardon me. And he's, he needs to, he's not going to make the same mistake he made with Puscha.

He has to double that. You have to go at him. You can't disappear. And let the, if you let the public call it, you lost. And I don't think he wants to leave it up for people to make that decision. I think he wants to take matters into his own hand. Either win or go down with the ship, with the whole home burning. Yeah.

And you can't say this is over the line now. That's why I'm not replying. Because you did that the last time. And the line went, no disrespect to 40. I hope your health is great. But this is a way crazier line than mocking MS. But did who, oh, that was y'all that said. Y'all felt like he was waving a white flag on the heart part six.

because I never felt like I didn't think that I felt like y'all said that Monday no that was I felt like he said that in so many words yeah a few people that was the theory because he said you can go ahead drop autumn songs you want to drop like basically like

you burnt out yeah like do what you gotta do okay I'm gonna be over here on vacation like yeah he said the shit getting burnt out it's burnt out it's burnt out you tell by his tone that and there were like three separate lines on that song in itself where he was like yeah and I mean I think that could also be

strategy when I heard it the first time I was like oh is this his way of kind of doing a psych type of thing to make it look like this is done Kendrick can relax go shoot your not like us video go focus on that while I plot over here to make it look like I'm done I could see that being a strategy I thought he outright made it seem like yo I'm done with this this was some fun exercise which was a crazy line to me like getting the pin working was a great line Yeah, all of it felt nasty. This is what you asked for. Now you're like, oh, yeah, I guess thanks for coming to the court.

Like I said, I think the cadence of it is what was like, we're waiting for you. You drop, I drop, I drop, you dropped, then you drop again. And it's like, because at some point you got to ask yourself, all right, are we supposed to just keep? How long is this supposed to keep? Like, you drop a record, I drop a record, you drop a record, you drop two records, I drop two records. How long are we supposed to do that? Would you feel that way if it was flipped? let's say Drake looked like the victor would you be like well yeah i mean it's over now no i still

would feel because again if we're talking about a rap battle this has been the most like we've we haven't seen records i think come like paul's come like this mainstream wise underground rap so it was they do whatever the fuck they want yeah but it's kind of like every other fucking hour it's like god damn yeah so it's like this started to feel like that and you know artists of of drake's max like, all right, I'm not going to entertain this but for so long. Like, what are we doing here? Like, so I think that was more so the, the feeling on Hart Part 6 was like, all right, man, like, I'm not going to keep, this isn't going to go on for another month

and a half. Like, we're not going to do this for another month. Like, that's the feeling I got not, I'm waving a white flag. I give up. Like, I never got that tone from, from that record. Let's go back to, I don't know, two months ago when it was the Cole, Kendrick, Drake possibility. And we all agreed that this was great because finally in rap, this will be a rap beef that won't go too far. Nobody's going to get hurt. It'll stay on wax. Like what a

perfect time in hip hop. Three elites. No one's going to hurt anyone. Everybody knows what time it is. And then two days ago, Drake's house gets shot up. Do we think this has anything to do with the Kendrick and Drake beef, or is this something else that was mentioned on push-ups and family matters? I think this was, I don't,

I'm not going to, I'm not going to dismiss it totally not having anything to do with the, the beef that's currently going on. Because the timing of it is just too, you know, it's like, you've got to kind of think that,

think about that. The Kendrick theory sounds very far-fetched. Yeah, but I'm not, very far-fetched. But I can understand in the height of all of this, how somebody would think that and throw that into the mix. Like, yo, could this be a part of this whole Kynjik Drake shit? I understand that.

I don't believe that. But those are the same people that think Biggie shot Tupac. Right. Like, I'm not one of those people, but I can understand how easy it is for people to feel that way. I think that this was, you know, just happened to be just a random somebody or some people. It's not hard to figure out what Drake lives if you're from Toronto. and I think they just drove by his crib and just shot at it. I don't know.

I don't think this was anything deeper than that. I feel like if like a Stan or quote unquote clout chaser or someone along those lines would have made sure they filmed it so we knew they did it. I think only the crazy fan in this scenario would make sure that they could go to their Stan account and that Stan community and be like, yo, look what I do. I'm the one that did that. So that's where I think this has nothing to do with Kendrick or some crazed fan. Not some John Lennon shit.

Not trying to save Drake from his innocence. Right. I think it has a lot to do with an ongoing internal Toronto thing. I mean, we saw, and this is headline news, we're not breaking anything. Cash from Exel's house was shot, what, last week in L.A.? On the 29th of April. Which who the fuck knows? Because in the hills, shit is crazy.

It's happening all the time. So we don't know if that has to do with anything. But I can see this being more of a Toronto thing than it could ever be. Like, I don't think Kendrick, even though he said to Drake's mom, I hope he fucking dies. I don't really think Kendrick wants to harm him. Yeah, no. I don't get that. But I'm not, I'm not one of those people that's putting this on this, this beef thing.

This is definitely something totally separate from that. But let's, all right, let's speculate that it's an internal Toronto thing. We don't have to put names to anything at all. I'm asking you as a civilian, what stat is that that you shot a security guard outside of a mega mansion? Like, what type of stat are you getting? Yeah, because you can't even talk about that stat. Like, who can you even tell that stat too? And for what?

You did nothing. Yeah, yeah. And prayers to, on that security guard, I heard he is doing much better. Yeah. But he probably has a family. He's not sitting there trying to get fucking shot. Right. I don't think any of these gentlemen are.

trying to get shot. Or even involved in this. I'm guarding Drake's house. It's my job. Some petty back and forth shit. I had a crib. Yeah. I don't know.

I found it a little weird. And granted, I don't know what happens behind the scenes. I know Toronto can get very fucking dicey in certain places and certain people. Absolutely.

But, like, what are we doing? Just shooting people's security guards outside their mega mansion? Yeah, this is where... Because of rap shit? Right.

Yeah. This is where... You know, again, even though I don't think this has anything to do with the rap, the beef or the battle. But this is where things can quickly, the energy can change quickly and be like, oh shit, now this is something that we thought it wasn't going to be. You know what I mean? Like you're talking about somebody shooting up one of the biggest stars or shooting at one of the biggest stars in the world's house. Like, that's fucking insane in itself. Can I give you my theory?

And I don't want to put this on anyone at XO's jacket or anything. like that, but we saw all the theories online. Drake City had no shooters and then all of a sudden someone shot. Cool. Not anything that I'm bringing to the table. If this does disappear, I think that does give that theory a little bit more credence. That is a very wealthy neighborhood. There's a fucking ring camera on every last block.

I don't care if they got a stolen car, different plates. They're going to figure out who the fuck did that. Oh, yeah. Without a doubt. And if it ties back to somebody's specifically and it disappears, I think that's saying a lot. If we don't really hear from this and it doesn't end up being just some crazy kid that was just like, yo, let me go do this shit so everyone knows my name. Yeah. And there's some type of tie back to somebody else to somebody else, somebody else, somebody else, I think we know who came from. And I see it

disappearing. I don't know if we're going to get a bunch of, I don't think we're going to get a bunch of answers to go. I don't want shit to go that route. Like I hope it's not. I hope it's not. Because now we just like, I, like, we back to this type of shit. You know what I mean? Like, I don't, I hope so I hope it's not that. Do you think it was Lucian Grange by himself? Shot Drake's Chris? Listen, man, we found out in paperwork that Jimmy Henschman went by himself during a banquet to shoot up Tony Ayo's mom's house.

Anything is possible. Yeah, but Lucian, like, no. Some of these execs do they own dirt. Yeah, but Jimmy Hentry is a difference. He was doing that before. Way before the music shit. Like, we ain't got to talk about that. Reading that paperwork was some of the craziest.

Like, everyone knew there was a back and forth. Yeah. But when you read that paperwork from that snitch, they say, yeah, no, Jimmy left the banquet, say, yo, tell them I'm in the bathroom. Yeah. And then came back to the banquet. Different type of guy, man. But did you see the other theory, speaking of Lucian of UMG, trying to shut this down for Drake's sake,

which I think this was debunked. Yeah, it was. We definitely can speculate that UMG is having a lot of conversations of where they want to go with this. They're both UMG, right? Yeah. Well, Kendrick is licensing, but still UMG. Yeah, I think, I believe it. I can see why UMG would want to put it into this. Definitely. I think they wanted to drag a little bit more because clearly it's profitable. But at what cost? That's why I'm saying. I definitely believe that UMG reached out to both parties and had a conversation.

What that conversation was about what it entailed, I don't know, but I think that UMG definitely, like, why wouldn't they? This is their business partners. Like, why wouldn't they want to intervene at some course? Whether it's just to kind of gauge what's happening, what's going on, like, how long is this thing supposed to go? Like, you know what I'm saying? Like, what's the energy?

Is it turning into something else personal? Obviously, things are being said that can then turn it to something else that UMG will probably have to get behind and try to like fix. So I think that somebody from UMG definitely reached out. and had conversations. Now, whether or not they said, oh, stop or, yo, chill. I don't think any of that. I think that UMG definitely reached out and had conversations with both parties

to kind of just gauge this thing and understand exactly what's happening, how much longer is this supposed to go on. I'm not even curious of what, like, the high execs are talking about, more so that, for those that don't know, all the divisions of UMG ended up in one building because the music industry is minimizing as far as employees go. So I would just love to see the person that is working the not like us record. We're like, we're about to bring it to radio.

And then someone from the PR team at Republic is like, you're going to do what? Right. Yeah. We want to work a record that's going to kill another one. Yeah. I want to know what that chaos looks like. But then again, UMG has had so many things on their jacket that they have not given a single fuck about. Exactly.

But this is, we know this is different. Like Lucian might have walked. and they called them a what, a pedophile? They called me that. I don't care. I mean, they've been caught up in that whole, before the statute of limitations. Diddy was in it, Cosby was in it again.

UMG execs were in it too. This is nothing new. They've never really given a fuck about a moral standard. So I don't know if they care at all to end it. Nah, they definitely care to end it. I don't think that that's what that call was about. I think that that call was probably just a temperature check. Where are you going to take?

Yeah, like, where is this going? What's happening? But I don't think that they're trying to intervene and stop because they feel like Drake is losing, whatever they were saying. Drake is losing. So UMG jumped in to stop it. Like, I don't think that that's what happened. I think that these are both vested interests of UMG and they're just checking in on these artists. Is Drake compromised because he has even more invested interest with UMG?

let's say hypothetically he finds real evidence not just a chick from hard rock cafe talking about some Kendrick shit he finds real evidence or real statements does he consult with UMG or just put it out no he pushed that out you gotta put that shit out

is that relationship because I'm sure Lucian and Drake are much closer than Kendrick and Lucian we know it's a way different relationship there top probably has a better relationship with Lucian than Kendrick does I don't know if Drake does that right

way. I really think he has to have some type of conversation with his partner. I think it's the opposite. Where it stands right now. I think he does it and Lucien hits him. Lucien hits him with the Julian line. Come on. He calls trade text. Like, come on. It's just a distribution deal. Why would you put that out? Like that's, I don't think Drake is talking about, yo, I'm about to put this out. And fuck it, you guys. He's going to drop that shit. And then the text messages and the emails will coming after that. Yeah. We'll get him some more therapy.

We'll figure it out. Where it stands, I think Drake's dropping next. Do you guys have any thoughts on what's to come in terms of releases? I think similar to what... Well, I think, well, not to cut you overwork. I'm going to cut you off. I think that... I don't think Kendrick is dropping anything because not like us is what they're working right now.

Yeah, I think he's shooting the video. I think he has clips ready in case Drake drops, but... But he's not... He's not releasing anything until... I think he's ready because he doesn't need to drop because he's clearly up. So I think it's in Drake's court still.

Mm-hmm. I don't think Drake is dumb enough to think one record could change this. I think he's recording multiple. And he's going to drop all those at the same time. I don't think Drake handles criticism well,

which I think is why he's such a great artist. After for all the dogs. He got a lot of flack, said I was done, walked back in, said, Noel, I'm not retired anymore. here's seven more fucking conductor records and guess what?

One me the fuck over immediately I did not like for all the dogs that scary hour shit is incredible to me won me over like all right I was wrong I'm sorry I think that's probably the only way when I've been thinking about this the past few days when people weren't dropping I was like all right Drake's probably recording three songs a day

and he's gonna pick the best however many of that and we are going to get a whole package of records and then Kendrick's going to have to deal with that. And I think Drake is going to have two just on the side just in case. Yeah, again. One's going to have a hit. Changing the cadence of the thing, of this whole thing. Yeah.

I think is what Drake is going to do next. Just change it. Like you said, focus on what he's doing, where he's working. Fuck if Kendrick is putting out records and when he's putting them out, you go in your back cave, create your piece of art and give it to the people when you feel like it's done and you're ready to give it to people. people. Before we move on, because I know it's been almost an hour, but this is what the fuck is happening.

Yeah. This is a lot. I don't think anyone's complaining. I wanted to, uh, I wanted to bring up a theory last episode. I forgot, but I did tweet it. Do you think there is a world where the mole is actually the opposite and Drake was fed misinformation about the Dave Free and Whitney kid's situation? No.

I think you got your aluminum foil. on, but no. Because where does one find out that information? I'm speculating. Because I could see a world where somebody could feed that to Drake, because it sounds like fucking ridiculous. Yeah, but what if this is something that he's known or heard for a few years? True.

I mean, I know everyone speaks with him. Somebody sent the mold three years ago? But I do think Drake, even though I've been giving him shit, is calculated and doesn't really move on shit unless he knows it to be a fact. I think he's proven that in his career. and done very well at it. I think he would need more than just industry gossip to be like, yo. No, that's not.

And the fact that he was sitting on that and that was his nuke and he thought it was going to go better than what it did, I feel like maybe a mutual friend could have confirmed that to Drake with the purpose to mislead him. I think that's part of why this whole, the perception of who's up, who's winning or not right now is because I think Drake is operating off of that. Like, I'm not saying shit unless I know it's a fact.

Yeah. Where in a rap battle, unfortunately. People don't even care about what the facts are. Yeah. It's just whatever they think sounds good or whatever sticks. Whatever sticks. You know, people looking for a reason to like, yeah, fuck him. We never liked him anyway.

Whatever it is. I think that that's what matters more than beef way. I think that in a honorable but like maybe not so beneficial way, I think Drake still was approaching this with integrity. Like I'm not going to... I'm going to say integrity within a rap battle. I'm going to say some wild shit about you, but at least it's true. But it's going to be true.

You're going to say wild shit about me. That's not true, but people are going to, you know, sing to it and jump up and down to it. Okay, cool, whatever. That's where I think this is. I think that he had a little integrity, a little bit of more morals and saying I'm not going to put something on somebody if I don't have enough to believe that this is 100% true. And I'm in the middle of that where I don't know who's telling the truth. I think both people need to prove it or both people don't. Like, I don't know these people.

I'm not going to say one side is saying facts and one isn't because I really have no fucking idea. I'm on, all right, this is sticking and this is not sticking because I really don't know y'all. Yeah. And on the other end of that, one of Kendrick's friends from Compton, who's featured on to Pimp a Butterfly album cover, did respond to your clip mall and say that not only confirmed that there's a daughter, but she just celebrated her birthday. They have photos of her, but they're worried for her safety to put any information about about her.

Wait, what? Yeah. Somebody that was on Kendrick's album cover? I think it's T. Row. No, they were talking to T. Row. They were talking to T.Row? He said Drake has a daughter? They're still, they're tripling down.

They're confirming that it's true, but it's more of like we don't want to put it out for a safety issue. Do you want to play the clip or no? Yeah, we can play it. There you go, because they play Maw's clip in it. So I'll skip Moll. And he's going for it. In my run is me being in a dirtier girls.

You been engaged for it. years you're not married yet you living in new york she's not let's look real shit all this olivio daughter shit y'all talking about I really don't think this is crazy as people made it out to be family mad it's a better wreck

get the fuck out of it you guys he didn't say it was a bad record it's probably the best song it ain't no probably that's releasing this entire see that's when we got to get out I don't think they were really

being serious That girl just had a birthday That's all I'm gonna say And that ain't her in the video To We know that already He didn't break nothing with that With what

That's not her in the video Oh yeah No No I think he's addressing Like when you said that He had pictures of the little girl Like trolling you in the video I when it was like

Those pictures have been there for years Yeah I didn't want to cut you off because she was cooking but that was debunked those photos had been in that spot since 2021 so that wasn't like an Easter egg of like that's the girl but they're suggesting that

the girl does exist and she just had her 11th birthday let's finish real quick you're a fan you're a fan you know you cap and family matters is not the best song you're out of the beef do y'all realize that these is all California niggas of course it's back on fig They're supposed to look like

They're supposed to like the record Shout to T-Roev Yeah, of course But I mean They're close to TDE and are suggesting that That's not Cap Like no matter what Drake says

Everybody is aware Within that circle And I'm not saying Kendrick couldn't be feeding people The same shit The same way we've accused Drake Of feeding the media With certain narratives

I think Kendrick's been doing it too I think they've all been using bots They could be feeding fig that information I don't know But They are suggesting that that is 100% true. Yeah, yeah.

I also just don't think it's as crazy as everyone else because I think a superstar could have an 11-year-old kid he doesn't know about. I don't think so. Especially when he already, like, it's not just the, it's not just the bomb. It's like it comes with weight to it. Like, he already did the route of hiding a kid. Like, there's plausible, it makes sense. He did it once.

But why do you say he hit a kid, though? He did, maul. He did not know if that kid was his. during that battle. Like, I don't understand how y'all not comprehending. I think he was in the middle of a paternity.

He had to have known. Bro, what do you? What point? It doesn't even matter. It doesn't matter. By the time we learned who Adonis was, he was how, like, why wouldn't this have all been figured out

long before then? Why did it all spark because Pusher T named, like, got some info about it. It didn't spark. It was going on. It was a paternity's who going on. He was trying to figure out

if that was his kid or not. That was information that was given to a woman that had a relationship with Pusher as well. But he did not know definitively. if that was his kid or not yet. Like, I just don't understand how people don't know that part of it.

Like, I don't know the timing of that. I thought he knew at that point, but was just not ready to tell everyone, which would have been fine. Which would have been fine. Totally fine. I said last episode, he may know about this 11 year old. It could be true and had an agreement with that child's mother that this one is going to be hidden.

I don't want anything to do with what the fuck is going on with your life right now. Yeah. I just, I don't know. I don't see that. If you have a kid at this point, what? Does it matter if you have another kid? Because that mother or that side of the family could be like, nah, be part of her life, but we don't want to be in the mix of this entire thing.

We don't want to get caught up in this. Be in her life, but don't promote it. I just feel like this dude is too big of a star for people not to know if he really has a kid or not. I just don't see you being able to hide that for 11 years, 12 years. I just don't see that. Bruce Jenner did it for as long as I can remember. I didn't even know he had a whole other family. Yeah, but you also not

Bruce Jen is not a fucking The Star the size of He ran away from that family immediately I see what you do I get it I was probably like 28 I think I think Bruce said became Caitlin

When I found out I was like oh he has like seven other kids I only know about Brody Shout out to Brody And that's because like Eve put a camera in their face They're like you're part of this shit too Putting shit together here No

We're not putting it together. No, you're not seeing the... No. Okay. But I just think that's why that people really think that's why... Drake has a 12-year-old daughter. 11. I just don't...

No, I don't see that being real. 11. I don't see no star that big being able to hide a kid for 12 years. I don't see that. Oh, man. What? I just don't see... Especially when you already have one that people thought you was hiding.

You think they wouldn't have been found that other one by now? Okay, let's go off the rumors of Hove paying certain people to just keep it under wraps. My rumors and shit. I just, it's a thing. This is not the National Inquirer, bro.

I'm not going to entertain gossip and shit on fucking random blogs, bro. That's not real. But what if the kid looks just like and it's from like the same neighborhood? I can't entertain shit like that, bro. I don't read the National Inquirer.

I don't. I don't know if that was in the Enquirer per se, but maybe page six. Definitely an inquiry of page six. All right, well, the future remains to be seen. Bad segue? Terrible. But I mean, we're looking forward to see what happens with the Drake and Kendrick thing.

But then we're moving on to Future and Gunna. Right. So I was doing a news segue. I got it. The future. I got it. Wasn't sure everyone over your head. No, no.

Wait, everyone's been breaking down lyrics. I wasn't sure. I don't need it. You don't need Rob Markman for this one? There was a Gunner at Drake's house. Got you. Uh-huh. See?

Come on. I thought you said not. See? I thought that's what he just said. All right. That's what you said. Anyways, Future and Gunner going back and forth. Oh, God.

How did this start? This is not my expertise, so I'm fine coming in here without information. This is what happens when, you know, beef is going on or like, you know, battle is happening. Then you get people in the crowd that's being like, yo, but what he laughing? He's laughing too hard. Yeah. It's that type of shit. How do I insert myself into this?

Yeah. Which, by the way, side note, we don't have to talk about it. I do want to see a game and Ross go back and forth, but neither here nor there. I do too. On records? We predicted that years and years and years ago. Yeah. I don't know.

And we could finally settle our dispute. I don't know if we... Game is going to tear him up. And I love Ross, but... Nah. I would... Game different, bro. Ross can make better music.

I'm not arguing that. Yeah. But that's a different arena. Game is going to tear Ross apart. You see Ross has been quiet. He'll be loud with Drake, but with game, nah. Ross is old enough. He knows.

I want to see that. You guys think... Just so we could get some game records with that energy on it. You guys think Kendrick dropping four songs in two days was crazy. Yeah. Game is going to drop 50 records in one day. Yeah. He's been writing about Ross his whole career.

His whole life. So I actually hope to see that one manifest itself on record. It'll be good to get some game records. Yeah. And listen, game disses people for no reason. If he has a reason, it's going to go left. Yeah. Um, anyways, though, can someone inform me about this Gunna and Future thing?

This is not my wheelhouse. I thought they were friends. I thought Atlanta was, Kendrick said Atlanta's altogether. He said that they're all there for, to just take the sauce. Yeah, I didn't, I didn't know about this until Julian walked in. This is like residual falling out from the Thug trial. And I think Future is caught up and feels away about Gunna being out while Thug remains in this situation. I think there's still some division amongst.

that whole crew. Why didn't he just say that before them? Because he has a mixtape coming out and Gunna has an album he's going to say it. Why didn't you say it before? And they're both dropping tonight. So, giving PR. Yeah.

To me. They're both dropping tonight. They're probably friends. This is probably nothing. So Gunna's fine with all the thugas inside jokes and was like, Future, just say something. I'll say something back. I think this is behind the scenes bullshit.

I mean, I wouldn't say bullshit. but it's not going to hurt the situation. Yeah, I think they are in cahoots, as the whites would say. I don't know about cahoots. Because I don't think future. Future doesn't need that. Not right now. Nor is going to, but I think they're both a little worried if these were the release dates,

what they have to have to deal with. The fact that they're dropping music right now is brave of them. When not knowing what's about to happen between Drake and Kendrick, I wouldn't drop an R&B song right now. I wouldn't drop shit. Taylor is shook right now. She's the number one. She's not losing no sleep over this shit.

Taylor Swift would have definitely moved her album release if it was happening this Friday. Nah. Why she would have moved it? I think this is pretty fucking big with Kendrick and Drake going back and forth. I think this is the only thing that could ever get Taylor Swift to move. If Taylor had an album coming out tonight, you think she would move it?

I think she would have been moved it. if they had that on the calendar before we knew. Didn't her album come out the same day as futures and metros? That started this whole thing? Pretty sure. What point would that be? No, I'm just saying. I don't think it was the same day.

No, I don't think it was. Even if it was, who cares? I'm saying... Two different audiences. If Taylor had this date and had not announced it, I think she would step back for a second. It's a lot going on. I don't think so.

I don't think her audience is at all impacted by what's going on. Well, looking at Gunna's track list, we have a, what do we have here? 20 records, a couple features, few features, one from Offset, and then Leon Bridges and a Roddy Rich feature. Oh, Roddy Rich feature. Oh, Normani as well. What does Roddy Rich been up to? I miss him. Me too.

I like Roddy, but he just had a few duds, and I don't mean that disrespectfully. He said they were duds. I've been waiting for some new Roddy music. I think it's possible to put out of duds and still be great. So I'm excited to hear the Roddy joint It's also hard So when your debut album is that good With that many hits

It's hard to top it I mean the second one just fell flat Like it just wasn't good Which he said in an interview I'm glad he took this time to just Step aside and make people miss him But gonna come back this quick is It's kind of crazy

Interesting Yeah To say the least I mean I'm sure he was just But this is a mixtape though right? No No his is an album Futures

Futures put out fucking three three albums in two months. Yeah. He's cooking. But he's one of those that I think has a thousand records on his hard drive that he forgot about

and then one night they plug it in we're like, oh, we should put this out. Yeah, let's just empty this out. Yeah. So I think a mix tape

makes sense. I think doing the second joint with Metro was also clearing out what they had and let's just get the rest of the shit out the way. Yeah.

So, I don't know. I mean, not really my thing, but I'm going to listen. I do think it's safe to say at some point there will be some shots

directed Drake's way from the future mixed tape? I don't know because I feel like what Drake said on family matters deaded their beef. I think we're going to get Future in Drake music soon. He said on the show. We've never had a real issue. It was someone

else in his ear. And we know Drake to be very petty. So I feel like they had a full conversation on the phone already and him and future are in a great place. Yeah, I mean, that was the one person through this all that I always said. It seems like the door and the opportunity is still open for them to still work together. I'm,

future. Sorry for going back to Kendrick, but since we're on Atlanta artists, and speaking not like us, do you think any Atlanta artists took that

offensively? Took what offensively? When he was trying to break down that Drake goes to Atlanta to just grab from the culture and take it back, do you think anyone

from Atlanta would take that offensively? Like, you think we just let Drake come down here and steal our sauce and then leave? He even was like,

yo, Tuchains knows it, but he won't say it. Like, if I'm an Atlanta artist, I could see how someone could get offended at that. You're saying Drake just came down here and robbed us and then left and we just sitting here like, no, we like Drake. It's because it wasn't true. It's not what he did. But I'm saying, as an Atlanta artist, I could see someone shooting back at Kendrick.

What the fuck are you talking about? We didn't let him do anything. No, I'm not shooting back because of that. I don't think that warrants you to shoot back because you didn't like that line. I mean, you could say something. I would get in the booth and make a record based around that. That's just like, all right, now somebody else wants to jump in on this shit. And it's just, that's when I'm off it.

At that point, I'm just like, once that starts happening, I'm cool. I think Kendra got lucky on how that was perceived because he had the momentum and because it was Drake and everyone couldn't wait to call him a culture vulture. That could have went another way. Knowing Atlanta and the pride that they have, that they is well fucking deserved, the Atlanta pride, to say some Canadian came down here and stole our sauce and left it, like, what you're trying to say about us? Yeah.

That scheme could have went Another way Just sit back and watch that happen Yeah like what the fuck Atlanta would never let that happen Yeah no So I don't know Which is why that was just crazy to begin with

But I get this about it Say whatever fuck it Either way The gun of future beef is not one I'm really looking towards Now hold on now Because when it was Gunner Thugs album coming out

Around the same time We see where everybody stood on On which side was the better Project Who do we think We had a better project Future or Gunna?

Gunna. Again, because I think it's clearing the hard drive out after the last two Metro albums, I don't think it's a fair comparison. I think it's going to be a lot of throwaway joints on this Future mixtape and Gunna, I think put together an album. So I'm going to go with Gunna. I just don't think it's a fair fight. I don't know, man.

I like Futuremore. Gunna's last album was fire. I know it was. I mean. You think he's coming back this quick with some bullshit? I think when Future has the opportunity to just make a mixtape and, like, Like just let records go and there's no like, I mean, there's still a direction. It's still like, you know, but it's not so overthought.

It's just like joints here. Yeah. I think that's tough to, that's tough to beat when you're talking about just a mixtape of futures records that he just put together. Nah. Does one of one have the producers yet on Wikipedia? Because Maul had a very interesting point at the beginning of this entire thing. When Gunna came out, we saw that, that clip.

And Mul had said, I don't know who in Atlanta is going to work with him. Like, fuck with the public things. Is he going to get features from people in Atlanta? Is he going to work with Atlanta producers? Yeah. Now that a gift and a curse went crazy,

he had a number one record. Seems like people are starting to like Gunnamore. You just want to eat, man. Niggas. So I get that beat shit, but it's like, your fan, if we could bust a bag together,

nigga, I don't care about none of that. I see Normani. I see Leon Bridges. I see where he's trying to go with different sounds. But who's the producers? on the next one.

Well, it doesn't say on the next one, but on his return, Turbo was definitely, it seemed to be the most involved with these records. And he looks like he's on at least the single, one of the singles that came out for this upcoming one. But to your point, with a quick turnaround, this album, A Gift and a Curse, came out June 16th last year. So not even a year.

We're getting another album. And one that connected. Usually people do that when shit doesn't connect. Right. So I'm looking forward to it. I like Gunner, though. I mean, you know, it remains to be seen if we got to completely do away with him. He made DeMaris cry at the Barclay Center.

That was cry. What happened? Oh, no, you said someone was crying. Well, like, what's, like, look at your narratives, bro. We record this. Didn't you say you were crying or someone was crying? You said you said it shed a tear. Oh, I think I did.

Yeah, I'm not making shit up. I think I might have said I was emotional, like, seeing his return and everybody, like, except him. Gotcha. like that possibly i don't know i'm open to being wrong but it was a good show crying to fuck you mean it's crazy

that's like this this person needs some therapy you're crying to fuck you mean it's like all right what's going on that i mean but what's going on that no but that assed what's going on in the household i was gonna say s and b i mean that is the the entire point of therapy what do you mean

and sometimes it's fuck you mean Yeah. Yeah. Depending on the therapist. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

I get it. Crying day. The Gunner show is fucking crazy. Like, yo, what? You could have stayed home. Like, no. That's the people that need to be there. Like, cry this shit out in the crib and the shower somewhere.

But like, don't come to the Barclays with the cries. Oh, please. But Gunna? Come on, man. You definitely cried when Osceino came out once. One time. Wow. To think that.

To think that. It's one time. What song would it be? Not my tears. You tell me. Yeah, I'm about fucking crime. Did you guys watch the greatest roast of all time, Tom Brady? I watch it live.

I watch the highlights. As someone that has watched pretty much every roast that was on Comedy Central, I was nervous when they titled it this way. I agree with them. This was the greatest roast that ever happened. Yeah, this was amazing. Three hours long. The greatest, though?

You haven't seen all the roast to say this is the greatest. I've seen sets that are like the greatest. I mean, you could get down to Jamie Fox on roast, but as a whole... Which one was Patrice on there on? Patrice was on, oh God. Whose roast was that? William Shatner? No, William Shatner might have just been there.

Am I? Charlie Sheen. Oh, now that was the greatest roast of all time. Charlie Sheen one was crazy. Pam Anderson one was crazy. Yeah. Rob Lo was hilarious. Rob Loz was...

The Trump one was... That could have been funnier. Bieber's was very good. Bebers was good. But I don't know. When you get into like the Greg Gerardo, Patrice O'Neill phase, that's different. Frankl's was pretty funny. Yeah.

I love this one. But I think this one. The Hollywood's one was crazy. Yeah, it was nice. I mean, at the height of Tiger Blood. Couldn't have picked a better time to put him into the fire. Oh, my God. And no one laughed at my two and a half men joke I made on the last podcast.

We probably didn't catch it. It was a lot of screaming. Dave Free and Kendra. with the kid, two and a half men. Oh, I caught that. I giggled. Got it. I giggled.

I mean, it's not funny if you have to repeat it. Yeah. But that is law. I lost sleep about it. Me and Cole. All right. We almost made it. Oh, look, lo, lo, lo, lo, lo, lo, look.

Look at Dreamville festival over here. I saw him at the beach, too. I was going to say, look at my king. I saw him at the beach. I saw him at the beach. While you guys are slinking of a merman. I liked his briefcase with the laptop. Yeah, beating your wives and beating paddo.

Look at our king. Oh, my God. Beach life. Who took the photo? Who's that with him? Whitney? I think the girl was with somebody. Stop.

I think the girl was with somebody. I think he was by himself. Or was that one of those time cameras with the tripod. I'm just trying to throw smart on his jacket to get him into the beef. Someone said, this is why I love like Colfit. They're so obnoxious. Someone said, now Drake, this is how you take photos with an underage girl. What?

Exactly. Like, why bring that up? It's fucking insane. the internet so much. I love it. Anyways. Cole would be on a beach with a fucking laptop in a briefcase. Yeah.

Maybe he's been trade the truth in the beach. That's exactly what J. Cole would be doing. You don't think that'd be a great place to write? No, that's what I'm saying. That's exactly what he would be doing. I'm sure. A great 32 came out of that entire. Oh, no, for sure.

Whatever that shit is plugged into? I know it's some shit for sure. Writing without Wi-Fi, you know it's crazy. But it's crazy because I don't want to hear that shit. Stop. I don't want to hear it. What if he talks about just reflecting on a beach? I don't want to hear that shit, man.

That's fine. You don't have to. I don't want to hear that shit. I just can't, bro. That's cold, man. We thought he was one of them, man. Well, he picked a beautiful spot. This looks incredible.

Oh, no, it's amazing. Listen, that's some super cool shit that he's doing. Let me be very clear. That is some peaceful. I'm chilling. I'm not with a bunch of niggers. I'm chilling. I'm not mad at that.

But whatever he's cooking up in that brief, I don't want to hear it. Whatever he cooking up in that brief case? In that brief time? I don't want to hear what he, will he, But he cooking up in that briefcase. He left there with 15 voice notes. Yeah. And you know they tried to find what beach that is and shoot it up.

You know, shooting up the beach. No, after you left. You know how upset you got to be to shoot up the beach? You know, you know somebody sprayed up those rocks for TikTok? That's fucking crazy, man. No, the fans are crazy. You haven't noticed that in the last week.

Trust me. The last 48 hours, I've noticed it extremely how crazy. You're like, must be crazy. Insane. Do we owe an apology to the barbs? Wow. No, hell no. The llamas?

I don't know, man. No, I'm just saying all of us. I think we all need to look in the mirror. Those are all new recruits. These niggas ain't real Kendrick fans like that. They just don't like Drake. No, before. That's all it is, man.

They just don't like Drake. These niggins ain't real Kendrick fans like that. Before the beef even started happening, when like that dropped, the llama fans came out, like, immediately. No, they, he has a gang of them, and they're the worst. I mean, he sells 400,000 anytime. He has a fan. He has a fan.

But they're not like... How many arenas he is the high selling tour? They're not like how they are right now. These people that are on the shit that they own on the internet right now, these are just people that just don't like Drake. They don't like Drake and they're fans of the internet. They're fans of like just doing what the internet is doing the time. But I'm not talking about them.

I'm talking about the actual thing. We should apologize to the Barbes because we all became Barbes not for the right reasons. Barbes are true and loyal to the soil. No matter what happens, they're going to act this way no matter what. We've all been acting like Barbes the last. week for no real reason. These are our guys. Who's been acting like a bar?

The whole genuine population. I've been acting like a barb? I mean, you screamed. Barb scream. Online? In this room. I scream at y'all no matter what we're talking about, because y'all just fucking pissed me off.

I'm talking with the dumb shit y'all say. I'm a barb for fucking Chris Brown, too. I'm saying we're all barms now. We owe them an apology. We became them. And not for anything we're really loyal to. No, I'm not online, deeming people cursing them out, so I'm not a part of that barb shit at all. Not my, not my, not my, not my, not my, not my thing. I don't do that. But I'll talk

shit here with yada all day. Okay, well, back to talking shit and focused on Tom Brady. Favorite sets from the roast. Do you guys have any? Nikki. Yeah, Nikki Glazer was great. Shout out to women. Yeah, she was funny. I mean, out of three hours, it is tough to say that the standouts were obviously Nikki Glazer. and Tony Hinchcliff were incredible. But I think even like the athletes did okay.

Julian Edelman was amazing. He was hilarious. Bill Belichick, even though you could tell he was nervous as fuck and he was out of his element, killed. Who wrote it for him? Well, they have a, anyone, no matter what road it is. They sent them these jokes. Oh, yeah, but there's like, even with that, though,

you still have to be able to perform and deliver. Like, I was listening to Flagrin because Schultz was telling recapping this whole moment. Shultz de Great, by the way. And he, yeah, he killed. He had the worst set. He closed it. Like, by that time, you're crossing off all your jokes.

Like, how many things can you really say about Giselle at that point? So, like, no, I know. He smoked it with Gronkowski, Edelman, and one other name. He said, that sounds like a law firm, not a receiving core. And, oh, you're going to need one with your divorce. Schultz smoked it. Yeah. But he said, Edelman and Bledso were going to, they were doing spots at the cellar.

Like, they were, they were practicing their. set. So he said it's cool. Working with athletes of that caliber, they kind of had the mindset where to become a great athlete, you watch game tape, you do the thing. You see great people doing it and then you go out there and try it yourself. So they kind of treated this whole experience like that. And he said, that's why he thinks they did so well. That's dope. I mean, because, you know, you can write jokes, but if you don't have that timing, that comedic timing, that comedic timing, so you need to, you need to be on stage a couple times and get those jokes off and understand when the audience is laughing, when to come back in with the next joke. Like, it's just

So that's dope to know that they actually took time to hit some comedy clubs and work on the material. And this one being live, I'm not sure because I've never been to a Roast Live, but someone like the podcast and interviews I've seen, sometimes they'll redo jokes or redo a set. These athletes had to do that shit live. That's tough. They couldn't take a break to be like, all right, let me reset and do something. So Randy Moss was hilarious. Everyone was great in this entire thing, which is rare with Roast because sometimes a celebrity. celebrities really suck even with the writers that they have yeah like Tony Hitchcliffe used to write for

the older ross and i think he was on rogan talking about um him writing for anne culter and like how much she would refuse to take any joke that he would write her and then went up there and bombed like you could not fucking believe not one fucking laugh is this the first is this the first roast that was on netflix yes yeah and live yeah which i hope they keep because i mean on comedy central you could only take it so far yeah the justice of the beber one they tried to push a little bit for cable, but if it stays on Netflix, I think we have a whole new world of roast battle. Yeah, I mean, they let the two of our favorite words, they said, they went for it.

So it was great. Jewish jokes, everything. I commend, I commend Kim Kardashian for going. Because you know if I'm Kim Kardashian and I'm going, I'm going to be the butt of a lot of jokes. No pun. Ah, that was good. Nice.

I actually didn't even, see, I didn't put that. I'm such a genius. I don't even know my own powers Getting frustrated at God Like oh why do you keep doing this? You don't even know how to use your own powers I respect her for going Even though she bombed and they booed

She held it down and laughed through all the jokes about her That's commendable Yeah But they tore Tom Brady to fuck up And getting like Like defensive at a roast Like that's worse The only person I've seen do that

Was ludicrous at Justin Bieber's roast Yeah Ludacris was at the end of that day as going, oh, I didn't know they were making jokes about me. I thought this was about Justin. Ludacris looked like he had never even heard of a roast in his life. He was only there because he was on Justin's first record ever.

And he did okay when he went up. I think he might have went first. And after that, was sitting there like, you know, you want to fight? I didn't know this was a joke. Everybody. I thought it was a Justin Bieber roast. You said fuck me.

Brady did say, and I learned this again from listening, Brady said there were two things that were off-limit. It was his kids and talking about the Belichick massage thing. Well, he did go up to Jeff Ross. And yeah, said, don't say that again. Like in the middle of it when it was live. Which I don't think they cut out because I watched. No, that was live.

They didn't got that shit out. What did Jeff say? Jeff made a tag joke about the massages. So which is true. Tom Brady, when he went to the Patriots, went up to Robert Kraft. And this is a true quote, said, I'm the best decision that this organization has ever made, which is a true quote. Jeff Ross was quoting that and then at the end said,

but would you like a massage? Because Robert Kraft got caught at like a nasty massage parlor in Fort Lauderdale, wherever the fuck it was. Like, what are you doing here? I wouldn't even go there. That's still insane when you think about it. Like as much money as Robert Kraft has, you left your house and your crib to drive to this fucking massage park.

The thrill, I guess. I think at that point, like, you're so rich. there's no thrill of a whore coming to your house. You got to go to her element. Nah, man. Going to the trap, going to the massage trap is fucking crazy. When you work for Billy?

But that happened so early in the roast. That shit was owned by the Zos for sure. 100%. That moment happened so early in the roast that people thought like Tom was kind of threatening to shut down the whole thing after that because that was a very hard line. Do not mention that or his kids.

Speaking of Edelman, I was watching a clip of his podcast on the way here. He had Drew Bledso on. Everyone knows that there was obviously tension with Brady and Belichick, but it's not as serious as people think. The real tension is Belichick and Robert Kraft. That's past Kendrick and Drake. That's on site.

So they were in the green room, like the whole Patriots team, having a good time. Brady and Belichick were having a good time. Everyone's drinking. Robert Kraft walked in, and they said, you could, the energy in there was fucking, you could rip a piece of paper with that energy. Everyone walked over to Kraft and Bledso was like,

well, I was just sitting there because Belichick was telling a story and if I kept walking, he would have been telling the story to nobody. I didn't even know what Bill was saying. I just wanted to stand next to him because everyone was like, Mr. Kraft, Mr. Kraft. Yeah. And Bill was, he's 10 toes. Absolutely.

He's not walking across that green room. No. And he's, Bill Hedso was just like, what were you saying, Bill? Yeah, I'm stuck here now at this point. That's funny. Edelman has a great podcast, by the way. Julian Allen? Yeah, if anyone is into football specifically or sports in general,

Julian Edelman's podcast. Gronka's on there a lot, but it is mostly Edelman's. You were the first, really? Oh. Yom's alumni. Where do they shoot that at? WK.F. They started a different.

And now they shoot out of. Okay. I was about to say it definitely looks like a different set now. Interesting. What do we have voicemouth? We do. You've got male. In the spirit of rap beef and everybody fucking the same women, this one falls right into...

It's not rap beef. That's the industry. True. That's cool. living. That's existing in this world. I fuck with the pod, heavy. But I need some advice.

So I'm in a weird predicament. My little homie, I haven't seen them in two, three years, asked me to kick it. We both played ball together. I moved. I came back home. No, I haven't seen them in a while. but I'm in a strange predicament

his girl right now used to be you know one of my eiders back in the day we broke it off everyone's moved on how do I tell him that

he's been with her for a while I have a girl now too he's talking about maybe having a double date I don't know what to tell him because I don't want to be corny saying hey don't talk to her because you know how we were moving back

then but I also don't want him just finding out on the song so what should I do? This is another easy one to me. So wait, his friend is now dating one of his old eaters. Yeah. And if for those of you listening I don't know what the eater is, that's one of

his former head nurses. And I could tell by his side it was one of his favorite eaters. Yeah. Once he's said we parted ways and went on different paths. Yeah, that means you had to heal. You had to heal. He might be mad at his friend. That's what's really happened to here. That's why he don't know if he wanted to go or not. Like, damn. He's about to figure out what she like. Yeah, he don't want his friend to know that he know her. That's what it is.

And a lot of time, no, mine, go ahead. Niggas be like, oh, that was my eater. Who's not your eater? Y'all were both having regular consensual sex. Yeah, I just weren't in a relationship. That was not your eater. Eater is very specific And you niggas do not be having eaters Stop But continue Niggas be having eaters but not all niggas

Not all niggas I'm with you. I'm with you now You were her eater too Y'all were having sex Y'all was eating each other 100% Y'all were having sex

That was not your eater It was not you pull up And she just mop you off And you leave Not everyone experienced her Her real appetite Yeah Is what it is

Yeah I don't know He sounds defeated He sounds like Drake On the heart part six I mean That's because I think he really like that girl a little bit.

Obviously he needs to tell his friend. Does he? Yes. He said he hasn't spoken to his friend in years. They just linked up again. Yeah, how's it gone? Him and the girl are serious. Okay, so we should go on a double date and sit there for that awkward experience?

Once he said double date, then it's like, yeah, you got to tell him, but it's like. Or just dub the double date. That could be the other. Well, tell him before the date, obviously, right? You don't tell him what you do. You don't do the date, period, and you just tell him. Yeah. If that's your actual friend, if y'all are not really friends and just ran into each other and was like,

yeah, we should get up and let's bring the girls or whatever. That's just talk. You don't have to do that. You're not to honor that. I might just be like, yo, I'm busy. Like me and you could do something on the solo and then I'll tell you like, yo, fam, you know, show do you with me and her. You ain't got to, don't say she's your old either. Don't do that.

But you could definitely be like, yo, we have, you know, we know each other. We dated or we, you know, we messed around before. Like. But don't, don't just go out there like, yo. Your girl that you in love with, yo, that's my old eater. No, don't word it that way. Yeah, that's a fight. And now you want to fight.

Like, I get it. No, then you're corny. You still got to fight. You're corny if you go to your friend to give him that information about, yo, that's my old eater. No, do you be like, yo, I used to talk to her. Yeah. That shit wasn't nothing. I don't know what's going on with show, but I didn't want you to find out later.

Yeah. Especially be doing double dates. He's still going to be crushed if he likes that girl. Yeah. But what's the other alternative? He finds out. So what are you doing that situation? And we're going off the hypothetical that...

I haven't seen my friend in a long time. Right. Do I plan on like still hanging out with him? Is there a reason? Spaces? I mean, even if you don't hang out, let's say you bump into an old friend and you like, yo, listen, let's hang out, whatever, whatever. And he's like, yo, you know, before we do that, the girl that you with now,

me and her have a little history, like... Do you still want to go on the date? I'm not going on the date, period. I'm deading that regardless of if I'm going to tell him or not, if we continue to hang out. No, no, I'm saying. You're with the eater. Oh, wait, okay.

No, I want you to tell me. Yeah, you want your friend to tell you. Hell you. Are you still going to do the double date? But why would you want your friend? Even if, okay, taking out the double date part, why would you want your friend? No, I'm not doing that. Take it.

Hell no, I'm not doing that. What the fuck? I had to think about you asking me that question. Of course I'm not doing that. I was like, wait, he really asking me if I'm doing the, I was trying to line you up. Because then I was like, wait, which person am I here? I'm not doing the double date no matter what character I am. No, but I'm just saying, you with the eater, though.

No, I'm not doing that fucking double date. You're fucking crazy. Yeah, but if you're the guy with the eater, you don't know that your homie. And he tells me. Oh, yeah, no what? That's crazy. No fucking way. Outside of a double date.

I don't know. Biggest don't we want to leave. I don't know. That's the stupidest fucking reason to leave somebody. You all is complaining. Y'all can't find fucking love. But some nigga you ain't seen in three fucking years had some history with your girls.

And I was like, you know what? Hey, you were perfect for me now. But you suck the dick that I know that I was in a locker room before. I'm gonna keep it tall. If a chick I'm liking and she, I find her she fucked one of my homies is clipped. It's no way. No way. What's a homie is what I'm really asking?

That's why I didn't give a real hand. Yeah, I was really close at one point. But then, you know, we adults. We grown shit happens. I may have moved out of town for a couple years for a job. Whatever. I come back. to the city and we bump into each other.

I'm like, yo, it was good. I ain't see you in a man. Yo, so let's get up. Let's go. Like, you, y'all was hanging out tough at one point. It's your boy. Like, yo, this is my man right here. And this been your bitch for two years and you getting rid of her.

I ain't going to lie. It's tough, man. Certain dudes. Certain dudes. Certain dudes, I don't want to say. Nah, nah, no. It's certain dudes. If I find out your dad, what?

I'm not talking about a regular stand-up, regular stand-up. Even some of my friends. Nah, I can't do it. If somebody's going to be a part of my life. during our relationship. No, I can't. You can't do that. I can't do that.

There's no way. If you somebody I know and I see if I dapped somebody, like, I know you was good. Like, this is like your real friend, bro. You don't see each other. But y'all don't see each other not because you're not cool. It's like, you know, we adults, we've grown. We have different.

I mean, I'm saying this. I'm on your side. I wouldn't fucking get out of here. Chez, ugh. The way y'all care. Never nothing. Nothing. I ain't doing it.

I'm not doing it. I ain't doing it. I'm going to get that together. Y'all got to get that together. two years. That's tough. That's fucking weird. Even if it ain't my friend, even if it's somebody I just know.

And I know he's like, him, I'm not, you used to fuck with him? Nah. Because girls do it too. I'm not talking about specific people. There's specific people. I don't want no bitch that they even breathe. This is what I'm saying. But I'm just talking about in general, not they don't have to be a nasty person.

It's just, oh, no, no, I'm saying it depends on who the person. If it's my friend, I, come on. That's, my boy, I can't do that. We can't do that. That's just, we, that's just asking for shit to be awkward now. Like, no matter how much I've grown with, if we all in the same space, it's just naturally going to be awkward. I'm fine with like associate shit, whatever, but like, let's put it to birthday dinner status. If there's 10 seats at the birthday dinner and he's going to be there, that's too close.

Nah, no, like, no, there's no way that's happening. That's too close. Yeah, no, I ain't doing. But associate shit, like, come on. If you in your 30s and living in the same city your whole life, it's bound to fucking happen. And you may end up liking that girl. And you just may know somebody that she dealt with. And you might be cool.

If I see you, what's up? Yeah. But when it comes to like our lives, yeah. Nah. Yeah. But if it's a specific type of somebody, we can't be,

nah, we can't have that in common. What's that, what's that special type of somebody? So y'all kicking her out the crib, y'all kicking your girlfriend out of the crib? Like, y'all'm living together. She got to go.

Because you found out she fucked you on you? That's crazy. Yes. Hell yeah. Meanwhile, Maul. Hell yeah. Get out. out.

All right. You wouldn't ask her, yo, did you know if we were friends? It doesn't even matter though. If this guy's been going for three fucking years. Had no idea? Used to fuck with my friend.

We can't be together. But what if she had no idea? That's cool. I'm not saying that. So you kicking her out the crib that night? Like, let her gather her things. No, not that night. She didn't fucking know.

I'm not going to put it out in the street. But I'm just saying like, we can't, we're not together. We can't be together. Like, this is not. That's my boy. Like, we can't do it. That's all. It happens.

I mean, what if she's been your confid on for three years and you even spoken to him? We can still be cool. Who's the best friend now? We can still be cool. We can still be cool. Yeah, we can not still be cool. We can still be cool. We can still be cool.

We can still fuck. But yeah, it's not like I'm not going to see you and not say hello. You know, shit, shit like that. I'm not going to act like we complete strangers, but like we can't be together living together. Yeah, but the last two years, forget about it. Yeah, like, no, I'm not doing that. I was ring shopping. But now, fuck that.

Yeah, no, I'm off that. Forget when I called her my best friend. My sort of best friend came back in town. No, it's not even that. It's just that that's somebody you cool when you're close with that's your boy. Like, it's just, it's going to be awkward. It's definitely going to be awkward.

That's going to be some awkward shit forever. I don't give a fuck. How mature you think you are? Advice, either way, cancel the double date, but do it in like a nice way. Like, ah, no, let's do something else. Let's just catch up. Feel out the situation.

Ask certain questions. And then you have to let him know that y'all dealt with each other at one point. Back to the shit. I'm team. Don't let him know. Of course you are. If he's happy, if he's happy, if he's happy,

If he's happy. He's happy for now until that secret comes out the closet whenever it comes out the closet. Why, we ain't seen this thing. We and me and him have been together a piece for two years. I ain't even know you knew this nigga. First of all. Go back to whatever whole. You know, you know, Best Man Holiday is a movie, right?

That doesn't happen in real life. In the Best Man, roll credits. No more sequel. That was completely different. That was completely different. Nope, how the fuck. They held down a secret the entire time until wedding day. They were best friends.

Like, best friends. best best friends. I'm talking about the nigga. They only say friends because he got drafted to the Giants and Harper was trying to write a book.

They would have went other ways. They stayed in New York. They were best friend. They had a whole friend group. That's completely different. That was completely fucking different. I'm talking about somebody that's like, oh, I ain't even know this person.

If we've been together for two years and I didn't even know that you knew this person, they might be important to you. That ain't that fucking important enough to interrupt our day-to-day life. We might see them at the wedding and we might see them like at a family reunion

or some shit that we both know people at. This is not a part of a regular day-to-day life. Let's say they get married. Put yourself in this situation. 20 years down the line, you find that out. Your best friend and your man. He's not my best friend. If I ain't seen him in two years

or talk to him in two years and you don't know who the fuck he is. We're going off this hypothetical that they are reconnecting. He's back in town. He said that was his little homie that he ain't seen in a while. He didn't say that was his best friend.

A little homie never came out of his mouth. Swear to God, he said that was my little homie. All right, well, I mean, sometimes you got to fuck your little homies girls. Let him know who the big homie. Let him know. I'm the big homie. Drake tactic.

I'm the big homie. You little homie, nigga. She told me. Yeah, nah, as a man, like, if that's your big homie, nah, you can't. If that's your big homie, now you can't. Either way, though. You can't go on with life and then find out later.

He's going to be more crushed. Now two people he cares about held a secret against them. That's fucking. Now it's fuck. of y'all. Yeah. I think people need to understand. This just goes throughout. Always give me the choice. Sometimes, there's so much miserable, like, just misery

in life. Enjoy your happiness. Sometimes you don't need to know everything. I've learned that the hard way. Some shit that I went searching hard for the guest 700 passwords, phones was locked for 24 hours. Some shit I didn't need to see and some shit I didn't need to know. And I wish that

I didn't. And that's what I've been saying about this whole beef too. Live in the lie. Sometimes it's better to live in the lie. Sometimes it's better to live in the lie than to go investigate and you learn. The more you learn, the less you're going to probably like that person. Yo, which is cool. I don't need to know every last fucking nasty thing my girl has ever done. Please don't tell me.

But if it's my fucking friend, Jesus Christ, give me at least the choice. Maybe I am happy enough to be like, yo, fuck it. Maybe I can live like Whit, Kendrick and Dave. It seems to be working fine. Yeah. Give me the choice. That's sick, but yeah, I'll get it. Never work.

Saying that dynamic's fine. Polylang gang. Oh, fuck that. Palang gang? Nah. Get out. But do you see the difference though? I don't need to know everything.

But I would like to know everything. I don't need to know everything. But if it's my friend or my little homie or, you know, somebody that I'm cool with, we haven't seen each other in a couple years because whatever, but you know that me and this dude is cool. Obviously I bump into him and I'm like, yo, let's like bring your, bring wifey. I bring wifey. We go out to eat.

Obviously, we that cool. So it's like, that would be the time to be like, yeah, so about that, I have a history with your friend. Because imagine if your girl don't even hold it down, she hug your friend before you introduce and like know his name. That's wild. That's wild. That's wild. Now you're sitting at Applebee's like, no, we're not doing this two for 20. Yeah, no. I'm leaving. Do one for 10.

She'll take hers to go, actually. She has to go and pack That sample platter Perfect for her Yeah perfect for her She's taking that to go Everybody's sampled here Except for me apparently

Yeah but nah What was this question? Does he tell? Tell and I said yes Yes He has to tell him He has to We wrapped

You don't need to write that I wish she would I wish she would tell him I wish the girl would tell Why? Like it would be better Coming from her Than coming from the home

He might put extras on it Yeah Niggas put sauce on shit. See, I'd rather hear it from the friend. Really? Yeah. Just a little hurt coming from your girl. Because, yes.

And I think women will doubt coming from the home. Women will downplay it even more. I think there's corny guys out there that would throw sauce on it, but that's not really your friend. If I'm talking to one of my friends, I think they will gently tell me that information and be accurate with it. Gently? You want your homie to tell you gently that he-

I want him to rub my back on. That he had your queen? Just rub my hair while you're doing it. Touch my beard. Because a girl would say some bullshit like, yeah, no, like we just ran into each other one night. They'll say some bullshit like that. He don't play with me. And he ran through me one night.

Yeah, yeah. At least your homie will say, yo, you used to talk to her. We used to fuck. One really liked that every now and then we talked like it really wasn't a thing. They'll give you the real. You're not going to like it. Yeah. I'm not going to ask details.

Yeah. And I don't think my friend would tell me details. else. People just be like, yeah, we used to fuck around. Wasn't anything crazy at all? Like, we haven't spoken a really long time. She's cool. Like, just wanted to give you a heads up. I know she's cool. A woman will lie. A woman will lie.

Used to blam eyes. Like, I don't even like count that. Like, I don't even remember it like that. That's what Demarish tries. I shed my new pussy. Whatever the fuck she's going on. I never said. My new pussy. It was like, it was like cicadas.

You said we shed pussy like every seven months. Yeah, we shed skin cells every seven. seven years you're a completely different person yeah she's a fucking nothing pussy every seven no I remember what happened in 2017 I ain't got it was some shit going on that summer you can't shed that yeah you can't shed that that stays that stays that's in history that is cemented in history the summer 2017

the only year I call it's 2016 we ain't fuck if you didn't fuck in 2016 if you didn't fuck in 2016 summer summer of 2016 the only summer ever I remember if it didn't happen then it never happened oh shit there's some shit that happened after 2016 for show And before it. And for sure. What?

No, it's life. Shit, the pussy. I remember that pussy that shit. What year your ID say you were born? What? That's how long. You bet on this earth. When did you lose your virginity?

You were born in 97. Anyway. You're not to get that off. Hey, me too. Women will say some bullshit. Like, yeah, but it was nothing. Like, what we have is more special. That doesn't make me feel better.

make me feel anything. Nah, a girl is not really saying that to you if you fuck your friend. What is he saying? When you say his name, you definitely got him with the, who? Who? What's his last name?

Nah, see, one's the last name. Now, see, I'm about to be, bro, the, fucking. Playing with me. And then I'm, then my mind is racing even more.

Like, how you, you don't remember him? Like, oh, no, he was the homie. Who else you don't remember? He was the homie. Like, now, real shit, though,

there's really no way to say that. You've been in that situation before. I've never been in that situation. All right, so the guy that you were with that you, y'all were just eaters and then y'all end up liking each other. He obviously was like he didn't give a fuck. Like, but was that his man, like his homie? What? Okay.

There's some mutants out here. That niggas are X-Men. That nigga shed skin every seven hours. A nigga like that. You said seven years to marriage? No, that niggins. shit skin every seven hours. Every seven commercials, he a new knicker.

He heals every wound in seconds. That niggas an expert for show. What? I mean, I get it. I know how you could develop feelings for somebody you shouldn't be developing feelings for. I get that. But to then be like, you know, nah, fuck it. Like, we together?

That's a different type of thing. You don't have to get into too much detail. Have y'all, like, hung out? And it's cool? Damn. Collectively? I love it. Demaris might have that snap back.

Only that snapback I have a nigga be like Yo son fuck it You're like only the snapback She shed her skin every seven days Yeah it might be yeah It might be seven commercials for Demaris too Yeah because that's the only thing

Where a nigga can be like Damn me and homie cool They got history I don't even give a fuck It's got to be for that snap bag It's only the snapback Have niggas doing shit like that You're not in like group chat together right

Don't piss me I don't know The group chat, that's confirmed. We all communicate together? Oh, nah. She's gangster. That's crazy. The Knicks are doing well.

The Knicks are doing well, Marys. Thank you for that. Thank you for that segue. They snapped back after a rough. Everything at top. The Knicks snapped back after Brunson almost looked like he was hurt at half time. You notice every time we talk about the Knicks, DeMaris goes like this. Yeah.

She brought the topic up this stuff. Yeah, man. That nicks is wild. The Knicks is wild. Yo, the nix is, you know, baby Dice say, yo, I don't even know. know, but the Knicks is wild and they up too old. I don't know what that mean, but, you know. Is Brunson the greatest Nick?

He didn't playoff history or what? Yo, but shout out to the Knicks, man, up to O'O on the Paces. Josh Hart, rebound machine. The conference semifinals. The Knicks look great, man. The Knicks are playing together. It's about the real interesting. It was shaky when Brunson looked like he may have hurt his groin.

That was kind of shaky. Like New York almost motherfucking erupted last night, but he came back after halftime and the Knicks were able to win. Shout out to the Knicks playing great. Hopefully they can continue and get this shit done it and get to the conference finals. He had a bad, he pulled his hand. He pulled his handstring. He looked like a hammy.

I don't think that that's going to be a tight turnaround. That would at least be like two to three weeks. So if we're down him, that means that she was going to have to do a lot of minutes. Mitch is done, done. Mitch is cooked, yeah. Like we're, I mean, this is just the residual of playing for a Tibbs coach team. Yeah. Hart has played every minute the last two games straight.

He's played 48 minutes back to that. I'm not going to lie. If OG, I mean, OG is a, that's a loss. That's a big loss for the Nish. He put up 28 and he only played, he put up 28 in 28 minutes. No, 100%. But I'm not mad at the idea of Precious getting those minutes. I'm not mad at that.

I mean, there's no better time to prove yourself. Yeah, I'm not mad at, I'm not, I'm not mad at Precious coming off the bench for OG. Even though OG is a big piece of what the Knicks are doing. But Precious is, um, he, He had some really, really good games for the Knicks this season. So either way, I hope OG is good. I want to see the Knicks as healthy as they can be. Mitch Robinson, obviously, he's out.

Julius is obviously out. So that's two big, two of their starters are already out. So, you know, we don't want to see the Knicks hurt anymore. But if OG can't go, I'm not mad at precious getting those minutes. What do you think about Julius just like standing at the top of the key as a diversion? Yeah. One leg. That shoulder ain't going to get it done.

That shoulder, you can't do much. You can't do much, man. But the Knicks look good. They're playing together. Obviously, I think the fact that those guys know each other since college is obviously the chemistry that is carrying this thing right now. No, but Knicks. And Brunson obviously is playing at an MVP level.

It's just been fun to watch him. And I just can't wait until that ticket comes across. And they tell us how much they paid Jaylen. Because he going to break the fucking banking. And he fucking deserves it. He's going to overcharge with what they did to the cold crunch. He finished fourth in MVP voting. Jokic won again.

I believe Gilchris finished fifth. It was kind of dicey. Gilchris. Shia. Gilchis, not Gilchard. I thought you talking about what he said, Michael Kid, Grilchrist. I'm going to say he finished fifth. Michael Kid Gilchris?

I was like, what the fuck did I miss? Had a solid ear. I didn't see India, that shit. No, but Shia Gilgillis, he finished fifth? I believe it was Brunson finished fourth. Fourth, yeah. I don't like that. Brunshish should have been top three at least.

At fucking least. Oh, I lied. SGA finished second. And then it was, it was Joker, SGA, Donchich, Janice, Brunson. Brunson was fifth. Tatum, Anthony Edwards, Sabonis, and KD. Brunson was fifth? Yeah.

Crazy. Janus over Brunton? This year? Because Yonis received one first place vote while Brunson received none but had three seconds. Crazy. Who is the one person that voted for Janus as the asshole, Milwaukee? Who gave it to Yon? Brunton deserved, he deserved more votes than the finish fifth.

This season he had was fucking incredible. Do we put on Josh Hart's jersey at least up in the rafters? Because he told Reggie Miller, you know, they saying fuck you, you know that, right? That was incredible. That's gangster. I fuck with Josh Hart. You have to put the Josh Hart jersey up there, just for that. Shout out to the Knicks.

Hopefully, again, man. I want to see them, you know, to keep this thing going. It's going to be interesting. It's going to be fun to watch them close this shit out if they can get it done. Agree. On the Patreon? Ooh, yeah. Because I have more speculation on this rap shit.

I want to save it for Patreon. Oh, do you? Mm-hmm. Okay. Well, let's do it. We'll talk to y'all soon. Head to the Patreon. I'm that nigga.

He's just Ginger. Peace. No. This is an I-Heart podcast. Guaranteed Human. Thank you.