New Rory & MAL - Episode 271 | Good Kid, b.A.A.d. List

Episode Date: May 24, 2024

Well there’s another list. This time Apple Music put out the top 100 albums ever. There’s one album in particular that has Mal up in arms (19:27). We also get into the particulars of other albums ...on the list. Rory realizes his terror stare in real time after rewatching the Chris Rock clip. Then we discuss Cassie’s statement after the Diddy footage (48:30). While our guys declined a primetime news slot, Cam’ron took the opportunity to go on CNN (55:25). We have mixed feelings about his appearance. It’s time for voicemails! We get into one of Mal’s favorite kinks which leads to an apology to Demaris’s dad (1:13:52). Our second voicemail is a call back. Also, Julian & Demaris are hosting their first party together this Sunday for Memorial Day Weekend at Selina Rooftop in Chelsea, NYC. Come hang out with them! Tune in as the guys discuss all of this + more!Thanks to our sponsors: Head to https://FactorMeals.com/RORYMAL50 and use code RORYMAL50 to get 50% off your first box plus 20% off your next month. This episode is sponsored by BetterHelp. Give online therapy a try at https://betterhelp.com/rorymal and get on your way to being your best self. Follow Rory: @ThisIsRoryFollow MAL: @MAL_ByTheWayFollow Demaris: @DemarisAGiscombeFollow Julian: @Julian__nicholas To watch the podcast on YouTube: https://bit.ly/NewRoryAndMALYouTube Don’t forget to follow the podcast for free wherever you're listening or by using this link: https://bit.ly/NewRoryAndMAL Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoicesSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:01:46 I just thought about that. What's up, Pops? What's up? Damaris out here taking in... That's the pre-roll. Demaris taking it in the caboose. I don't know if you know that or not, but he took it in the caboose. If he smacks you when he sees you, I'm not.
Starting point is 00:02:02 breaking shit up. I didn't say shit. I'm repeating what his daughter said. I feel my mind. Look inside of my soul and you can find out and never hit shit. I can feel the changes. I can feel a new life. I always new life can be dangerous. I feel naked today. No laptop.
Starting point is 00:02:28 This feels weird to just have space right here. Oh, you said you had to all get a new laptop, right? Well, Apple. They was charging. Make room for your BBL. New laptop prices to fix it. Pretty much, yes. Might as well just buy a new laptop. How's what got a new one? Yeah, I spent almost five hours in Apple. Why?
Starting point is 00:02:46 Well, because I had to transfer a bunch of stuff that wasn't on my ICloud from my computer to an Apple computer that was there and then buy a hard drive to put that on there. And it was like, ProTool sessions. Took a lot of time to transfer everything. Then I was like, all right, I'll take this time and finally get a new phone because my phone was ready to go. Is that the 15 Macs?
Starting point is 00:03:07 It's 15 Pro. What? I don't even. want to plug Apple like that because we have a lot of Apple shit to get to do that. Oh Apple was taking over the world. So I'm like, oh, all right, I'll just get a new phone. Yeah. Figure out the laptop thing. Like, yeah, we're just going to have
Starting point is 00:03:22 to take it for like a day. What year is your laptop? 2019. Okay. So it was getting close. But then I try to do the phone transfer thing and it says six hours and I had to get to a wake and they took my service off my old phone. So they were like, yeah, you're probably going to have to go like,
Starting point is 00:03:39 use your own Wi-Fi to transfer this amount of stuff. So then I just left Apple with no phone or laptop. Not a phone working. He was off the grid. You was really off the grid. Yes. Yeah. But I mean, it was nice because I didn't pull my phone out of the wake.
Starting point is 00:03:52 Like I felt good. Oh, look, I'm here to be respectful. No, I just don't have a phone that works. It's kind of cool being off the grid for a little bit, though. That sounds good on paper. No, it feels good on paper. On a Tuesday, Wednesday, whenever it was. Nah, a lot of anxiety.
Starting point is 00:04:08 Well, you got anxiety. Anyway, whether you got your phones or not. Even on a weekday, I'm like, what am I missing that's going to fuck my life up? Nothing. And then also, like, with a kid. Well, that's, I was about to say, now that you have a kid, that's a little different. Yeah. So sent a message to Kia, hey, won't have a phone for the following.
Starting point is 00:04:24 Oh, that never. How does that work? Telling your girl, you won't have a phone for five hours? No, I'm going to send a picture. You got to send a picture from behind the genius bar desk. Like, yo, listen, I'm here with all. Yeah, you got to buy a ring. Yeah, you're here.
Starting point is 00:04:36 Check my location right now. Yeah. I'm here. Would you like to speak to one of the specialists? He will let you know Yeah, how long it's gonna take. This is not, this isn't gonna transfer. They already took my service off my old phone
Starting point is 00:04:46 without transferring so I cannot use any phone at this point. You tell a girl, you're not gonna have a phone for five hours. She takes you back, have a good life immediately. Like who's not? What, what you mean you're not gonna have a phone? You're not gonna have a bitch in five minutes. Yeah, like your bitch is going in 10 seconds. You can't even doze off early, let alone not have a phone.
Starting point is 00:05:02 Yeah, no. Like, damn, I fell asleep early. Yeah, all right. Once the last time you guys got one of those off? If I fell asleep? Yeah. Very long time. It's been probably a couple months.
Starting point is 00:05:13 But I actually did fall asleep, though. No, we're saying no. You're 40 to you. I don't know. I fell asleep early last night. Yeah, like I don't fucking. Those days are over, bro. Like, all that lying again,
Starting point is 00:05:25 I'm not lying to nobody. Like, this is what the fuck I'm doing. This is what I did. This is what happened. So you would be telling your other bitch like, yo, I was eating pussy last night. My bad. I mean, come on.
Starting point is 00:05:34 I'm not doing that. I was saying I was eating pussy. No, but I'm just saying I'm not. No, but I'm just saying I'm not. lying, you, I fell asleep and I was in the bed eating pussy. He's not going to volunteer information that's not being asked, but he's not going to lie. I'm not going to lie. So she said, what were you doing?
Starting point is 00:05:46 What would you say? What was I doing? You know, chilling? Eating sushi. No, I had takeout. Went for some takeout. You should understand what that means. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:55 Come on, man. You was takeout before. You know what that means? You know, take out and, you know, make out. Take out. Who even uses that for? I got food delivered. Yeah, who was that that said that battered?
Starting point is 00:06:06 Who said that the other day? Clay. Mobile device. Mobile charger. Yeah. Play is a fool. Clay is a fool. But yeah, it was very, very uneventful between our last episode now outside of my phone and computer.
Starting point is 00:06:19 Yeah, that's right. But outside of that, we got another list and we fall for it every fucking time. Listen, I'm going to be honest. I didn't look at the list because I just refused. Like, I know what these listings are. These listings are like the new pyramid schemes. They're like, they get everybody riled up, get engagement online. line, everybody talking about it.
Starting point is 00:06:40 Isn't new, though? It's not new, but it's like, I think by now everybody knows what these lists are for. But we continue to fall for it. I tweeted out, resist the list. Apple's trying to divide us. We should all come together and ignore it. And then I ignored my own advice five minutes later and started debating about the list. Why did we fall for the time?
Starting point is 00:06:58 I didn't look at it. I only went, I went straight to number one. And once I saw with the number one song, I mean, the number one album on Apple's best best 100 albums. once I saw what number one was I refused to look at anything else That's usually what I do When I see somebody's list
Starting point is 00:07:13 I'm like okay who's at the top Once I see who's at the top If it makes sense I may dig a little deep Into the list But once it doesn't make any sense I'm like all right I'm cool So you think
Starting point is 00:07:23 Lauren Hill being number one Is that that egregious That you wouldn't even look at the rest of the list? Absolutely Really? Absolutely Well first of all before we get to that I will say I think this entire
Starting point is 00:07:33 And it's crazy because we have Lauren's fucking album cover right behind That was in my bed bedroom as a kid. And then I got it framed. Miseducation of Warren Hill, it's a great album. I think anybody, anybody with ears and a brain and a certain taste from music will say that.
Starting point is 00:07:47 It's a great album. But I do feel like... Different energy on Mike. I see Demaris over there, quiet. You guys are yelling. Now all of a sudden miseducation is a good album. It's crazy once we hit record. I mean, it's crazy that you cut me off while we were recording.
Starting point is 00:07:59 I know. Right. But I will say this. The miseducation is, and I've always felt like this, it is an overrated album. And being number one on this 100 albums of all time list, just further proves that it is overrated. I think Miseducation of Lauren Hill is one of those albums that so many people have heard is one of the greatest albums that everybody just falls in line and says it's one of the greatest albums. But people don't truly feel like it's one of the greatest albums they've heard. It's a great, it's a good album.
Starting point is 00:08:26 It's a great album even. But to be number one, I think everybody can absolutely agree that Thriller is the greatest album of all time. I don't think there's many people that are going to debate that, argue that. We're still on this list. Thriller would be the closest thing, but I think this entire concept is stupid. It's dumb. If you wanted to do genres, cool. I'm here to debate all day about specific genres.
Starting point is 00:08:50 You want to do an R&B list, hip-hop list, rock list, whatever. The idea that there could be a greatest album of all time in all of music ever is nonsense. It's all subjective. This is stupid. This isn't even like, when we get mad at B.D. lists or like, you know, complex year album shit. Cool. I'm fine with those because it makes sense.
Starting point is 00:09:14 At least there's a theme. This concept makes zero fucking sense. But the reason why I don't think it's because obviously I think most people, if you give a survey across the world, most people would agree that Michael Jackson is the greatest artist of all time. I think most people would agree to that. You got some people that are popular. Yeah, I would say so.
Starting point is 00:09:30 So it's only natural that the greatest artist of all time, his. best album is probably the greatest album of all time. No. Why is that a no? Because I, if I'm the greatest artist of all time, whatever my best album is, is probably the greatest album for all time. That's not the case for Drake. Drake's bestselling album isn't his best album.
Starting point is 00:09:50 I didn't say best selling. I never said best selling. I said, if I'm the greatest artist of all time, my best album and my discography, the best music I've ever collected, collection of music that I've ever put forth, is probably going to be the greatest album of all time. See, I don't know, because if I think Hove is the greatest rapper, I don't know off the top of my head if I would have a Hove album at my favorite rap album of all time. Yeah, no.
Starting point is 00:10:14 I'm not sure if it would work that way. I do get what you're saying with Thriller in itself. I think it should be number one too. If we're going to do this, this dumb ass concept, thriller checks every single box, number one. It checks every box. It crosses. It's the number one. How many generations has it crossed?
Starting point is 00:10:30 Like, Thriller? Yeah, it came out what? 80. 80, 82, 85, I don't remember. Bro, it's spanned, yeah, 40 some odd years. If this album came out in a stream and error, this shit would shatter every fucking, I mean, like, so what do we?
Starting point is 00:10:46 Well, that, all right, Mike's not around for Apple to give him the award that they just made up yesterday. True. They needed to hand the award to somebody. Yeah, no, I get that. I get that. Hand it to his family. I was going to say, Janet's still around bouncing around.
Starting point is 00:10:59 Hand it to his family. Hand it to, you know what I mean? Like his family, Janet is still here. Healthy looks great. Happy birthday. Handed to Blank. She just had a birthday last week. May 16th. Blanket could have accepted it.
Starting point is 00:11:06 Handed to his kids. Paris. Yeah. Like, I mean. Nicole Ritchie. Yeah. I don't know if Nicole Ritchie. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:14 You got. What? Hand it to his kids. Linal Ritchie and Mike were really good friends. Thriller is the greatest. Handed it to Quincy Jones. Hmm. Have Quincy accepted.
Starting point is 00:11:25 Okay, but then there'd be a microphone in front of Quincy's face. And then we get some of the greatest stories of the fucking recording of thriller. That's the Ebro interview I want to hear. Absolutely. Y'all want to talk to somebody. Get Quincy up there to talk about thrill. Before we go through the list, there was some criteria that I just wanted to put out there before we talk through the rest of the top 10 and furthermore.
Starting point is 00:11:44 Okay, so this was posted by Ebro. There are six criteria that qualify an album for this list. Albums that represented a cultural moment for the artist or genre, albums that were complete thoughts, not just collections of hits. Albums that thoroughly represent culture and production, lyric and
Starting point is 00:12:00 production and lyrics albums that inspired a generation to want to create more music albums that represent the best in storytelling musicianship recording and production and last albums that are timeless and reach far beyond the genre categorization it's a lot of cool buzzwords
Starting point is 00:12:15 yes cool buzzwords but I think Thriller checked all of those boxes I mean we can go through this I do want to get back to this miseducation thing something happened I think it's Twitter's fault when Twitter came
Starting point is 00:12:29 around, everyone just started to have these egregious music takes that people caught on to. I didn't know Tupac was whack until Twitter existed. There is a huge community that's like, yo, Tupac is trash. I'm like, I didn't know Tupac was trash until Twitter happened.
Starting point is 00:12:46 Tupac. I didn't know. Tupac is trash is crazy, but I do overrated. I never like Tupac does have a lot of songs that people don't listen to and don't pay any attention to. Okay, fair.
Starting point is 00:12:58 Let's just be fair. Let's be real. It's a lot of songs Pock has that niggas is like, I'm not listening to that. But he has some records that every generation is going to listen to. So, you know. Sometimes I think things are just cool to say and it catches on to say that. Tupac being trash is insane to me. The other theory is the one that you guys have.
Starting point is 00:13:16 Miseducation of Lauren Hill is an overrated album. In what world? But when we say that, no, no, no. When you say you guys is them to, not me, by the way. When we say that, right, it's not, it has nothing to do with the album. It has nothing to do with the actual quality of the album. The album has the quality. It's the praise that it gets and has gotten for so long.
Starting point is 00:13:37 Like he said, it should not be number one. It shouldn't be number one. I'm not saying it should be number one. Nor do I even really give a fuck what Apple thinks as far as the number one. They attach the names to the people that created this list, right? It was Zane, Ebro, and like three or four other people. But cool. And I'm not saying Zane and Eeyn and Eeyer's.
Starting point is 00:13:58 bro aren't music nerds and could put together a good list again just a stupid concept i think if loren hill had created two more albums after this we would not talk about this album as much as we do why do you say that though because it's kind of like when artists die and they suddenly become a legend this is her only album so it is heralded as the only lorn hill album and that's why i think it's a great amazing flawless album but i don't think we talk about it as much has she released two albums after Okay, I'm with you on the concept of when like artists die early, it kind of just puts them in this legendary shit. But there was a time when Nas was putting out bullshit
Starting point is 00:14:38 and didn't mean people didn't love I'matic and it was written. Like when Nostradamus came out, nobody was like, yo, Ilmatics really not like that anymore. So she could have put out 15 shitty albums. I didn't even say they would be shitty. The miseducation of Lauren Hill is a flawless fucking album. The miseducation of Lauren Hill is a great album. It's an amazing album.
Starting point is 00:14:56 Keep it focused. When I say it's overrated, it's because I hear certain people talking about this album, and I know they probably haven't listened to that album in 14 years. Rory's not one of those people. He listens to it every year. No, I'm not. I'm Rory aside. Rory's a music guy.
Starting point is 00:15:13 But what I'm saying is like when the masses, miseducation of Lauren Hill, I'm like, I know you, fan, for real, for real. You don't listen to that album. You don't play that album? Who? I'm not just saying people that I know in general. When I hear them talk about this album like, oh my God, the message again. I'm like, you don't listen to that album.
Starting point is 00:15:31 Like, you don't play that mute. So how is that, how is that album? Because if an album is like that for you, you're going to find time most of the time, sometime in your life to go back to that album, to go back to some songs off that album, to put some of those songs on a playlist that you create on your phone. Well, being that this is all genres, to go against that mall, an album can be absolutely phenomenal and just not be. for you, but you can recognize
Starting point is 00:15:58 musicality and the quality Yeah, but if you're black and the miseducation of Lauren Hill is like that for you, you're listening to that album. Okay. If you're from this culture, you're listening to the miseducation of the honor. I do think that there's something interesting. I listen to her unplugged album more than I listen to the miseducation of Lauren Hill.
Starting point is 00:16:13 So do I, but it's so I'm not comparing it to Thriller, but it's similar to Thriller that like we've heard every song on Thriller is a fucking hit. We've heard it all so I don't run back to Thriller because it's like the most popular music I've ever fucking heard. It's been ran into the ground forever.
Starting point is 00:16:31 You don't run back to it. Miseducation is similar to that. Pretty much out of 16 songs, 14 of these are like timeless hits that have been played non-fucking stops. So I can see someone... Yes. Yes.
Starting point is 00:16:49 Yes. It's similar to Thriller in that way that I don't think people are running back to it because it is one of those popular fucking things that's ever existed. those songs X Factor it plays everywhere all the time
Starting point is 00:17:02 Yeah but You don't need to run back to it It's in our world all the time Yeah but I don't see like I think it's in your world all the time I think for the average person They don't hear it at all Like you still see kids now today
Starting point is 00:17:15 Making TikToks and shit like that To songs off a thriller I don't see that From the Miseducation of Laurenhood album Like I don't see girls Young Girls Would be a weird TikTok TikToks are weird TikToks.
Starting point is 00:17:31 But I'm just saying like kids, I see kids that are five, six years old, dancing, dressed up like Mike, performing like Mike. Well, that's a different level. Lauren Hill, like Lauren Hill is, it's not that type of music. It's not pop music. So it's not really something you would dance too much. But even if it, even at the pop shit on thriller. Like, I mean, you listen to a lot of shit on thriller. Yes, it's pop because it's from the most popular artists of all time.
Starting point is 00:17:56 get that but there's some songs on there that's not the prototypical pop no song that people still to this day you will hear playing like you go to somebody's house a party a birthday something somebody's playing something from thriller i don't hear that from the miseducation of lorenhill i don't just randomly walk into places and hear the miseducation of loren hill playing not to say that doesn't mean it's not one of the greatest albums i just think that without just talking about this list that these people have put together. I just, and I get you want to put Thriller second. Cut the shit.
Starting point is 00:18:30 Thriller is the greatest album of all time. But I think that had to do with Lauren being alive and to be able to accept it and make a moment out of this list. I think that's solely because of that. And I think they wanted to do something that would cause debate because I don't think Thriller would have caused it. Well, the list causes debate, period. People were saying with Lauren being on here and I was doing a little more reading that there's no Mariah Carey or Whitney Houston album on the whole list.
Starting point is 00:18:54 It's not the top ten. With Whitney, right? This is the thing. This is what comes into where Mall said, if I'm the greatest artist of all time, you would think that my best album will be the greatest album of all time. Whitney has hits on top of hits. She does not have a solid collection album that would be in the top 50. I think she should have been on the list, but I can understand why she wouldn't be in the top.
Starting point is 00:19:17 I'm glad you went on the letter because I was scared to say. Whitney, like what is the Whitney album album? The Whitney album, exactly. Listen, man, if you can find space in no disrespect, I love her, if you can find space to put Solange on this list, a seat at the table. If you can put a seat at the table on this list, you need to stop.
Starting point is 00:19:33 You can put the bodyguard soundtrack on it. You can put something on this list. Something from Whitney can go on this fucking list. We're not doing that. You sound. Everybody has graduated to Whitney's song. Everybody has crossed the graduation stage. But we're talking about an album.
Starting point is 00:19:45 That alone, put the fucking album up there. No, we're talking about an album as an entire concept. An album as an entire concept. And I'm a person. I listen to Whitney more than I listen to any other artists. If there's a song list, Whitney Houston's making a song list. Sure. She would be it all 50 songs.
Starting point is 00:19:59 Is Janet Jackson on this list? And I don't even want to get into that because people consistently sleep on the fact that Janet makes insanely good album. Janet's controls at 42. And please, where's the velvet rope? Where's fucking all for you? I'm not even going to get into that because I get upset. I could be wrong.
Starting point is 00:20:14 But from what I've seen, I haven't seen a repeat artist on here. It looks like it's just one album from every artist on here. not even Janet's best album, but whatever. But I didn't want to say it looks like within the top 10, because again, we said this is a general list, so it covers all types of genres. Outside of Nirvana. Fuck it, man.
Starting point is 00:20:31 Good Kid Mad City is not number seven of all time. Let's stop the shit. It's not. No, it's not. It's not. It's not. It's not. Spotify with these fake streams.
Starting point is 00:20:39 Stop the shit, bro. It's not even number seven of the rap albums. Stop this shit. We all fucking Kendrick, but stop the bullshit. Yeah. Number seven of all. Yo, he's five slots behind. Thriller. Are you fucking kidding me?
Starting point is 00:20:52 I'm starting to think there is something personal. What did Kendrick do to you? No, there's nothing personal, but good kid Matt City is the number seven. No, it's not. I'm not. That's what I'm saying. I won't take the angle. Maul's taken. But if we're going to put a rap album in the top 10, it's my beautiful dark twisted fantasy or nothing. Stop playing with this like the best rap, but that's it. Don't put Kendrick at seven in my beautiful dark twas and fantasy like 26. Yo, good kid Matt City. Good. Great album. Number seven. Like, what are we doing here? I want to argue with you. but they also have blonde ahead of songs in the key of life.
Starting point is 00:21:24 So I don't even really know where to go with this argument. That's what I'm saying? It's like, five. And love blonde. That's criminal. Five? Blondemy is one of the greatest written albums I've heard in my lifetime. Stop the shit, man.
Starting point is 00:21:34 To put it on a list above Stevie Wonder song. Stop the shit, bro. And whether or not this place did it. It was an Apple exclusive. That's, yeah. Oh, fuck that Apple exclusive. He's going to fuck about it being an Apple exclusive? He was the other Apple exclusive.
Starting point is 00:21:47 Chance better not be on this one. You don't think blonde is better to Channel Orange? Uh, yes. Oh, okay. It's a far more mature album, but I think I enjoy Channel Orange's songs more. Channel Orange is much, I don't know. I enjoy it more. But it has so much more range.
Starting point is 00:22:03 Like, Channel Orange is a fun listen. Like, you could throw that on and go about your day. Yeah. Blonde is like a going from your 20s to your 30s mind fuck. A you. Like, it's like, you know. It came out when I was 26. And then I lived with it.
Starting point is 00:22:21 into my 30s. I have been on this podcast saying, I didn't like blonde when it first came out. I didn't, when I turned 30, I went back to that. I was like, this is probably one of the best written albums I've ever heard. Blonde. Number five, though. Number five is crazy. Well, there's about, it's a classic, there's about a dozen R&B albums on here. And what I was going to say earlier, right? R&B did not get any on the top 10. On the top 10, there's only really two albums in the top 10 that aren't like R&B hip hop influence. I would say that's like Nirvana and the Beatles. But outside of that, the rest of these are pretty much like within our culture. When you were scrolling through the list earlier, I just, like, again, I didn't look at this shit once I saw it, what was number one.
Starting point is 00:22:56 But I saw that they had Missy Super Dupa Fly ahead of Usher's confessions. The Missy's at 75. Great album. Usher is at 95. Come on, fam. Quick question. Which number is 21 by Adele? Because 21 by Adele should be.
Starting point is 00:23:14 Number 15. I was going to say, talk about. Okay. Blueprints at 13. Is it you putting that bullshit that high up? That needs to be up. Oh, Radiohead has two albums on here. Okay, Computer.
Starting point is 00:23:24 And, um... Man, why the fuck is Taylor Swift 18? I'm not talking about this list. And Kada. I just, I would have loved to just be a fly on the wall in the room for this. Like, how do you... How do you go... Horsefly.
Starting point is 00:23:39 For sale you. And an annoying-ass fucking gnats. Excuse me, bro. You know that gnat that just fucking can't get rid of? You wanted to be the fruit fly in the room? That's what you want to be food fly in the room. That's what you want to be food flies. All the windows open still can't find his way out.
Starting point is 00:23:50 Yeah, exactly. smack yourself by accident within that, that's what I would have been. Absolutely. I just want to know how you get to the place of going, all right, the chronic 19. Let's put Taylor Swift at 18. How do you even compare those two? Yeah. To list it that way. I'm not even here to debate which album is better. How do you even get to that conclusion of putting the chronic and then Taylor Swift 19 and 18? You can tell which one. You could tell which songs Ebro fought for, like which albums. You could tell. Discovery being Daft Punk's album on here is crazy. I would have done random access memories. Like, even with
Starting point is 00:24:24 some of the artists they picked, I would have picked a different album. Yeah, I don't know, man. Listen, then I get with these. Oh, Beyonce's on their tour. Oh, that's that's, that's, that's, I thought it said jagged edge. I was about to be like, I'm yelling. Well, I love jagged ass. What are we doing here?
Starting point is 00:24:41 What are we doing? What are we doing? I thought they had jagged edge at 31. I'm going to be like, yo, what are we doing here? That's actually very funny. Yeah, Beyonce's on here a couple times. Lemonade and self-titled at 36. Every time I listen to 36 Chambers, I go right to Bourne to run by Bruce Springsteen right after. Do you have to? That's just, you know, how algorithms work? How do you listen to that music? This doesn't make sense. I don't get this. Like, how do you put, look at this run?
Starting point is 00:25:08 We have to hold Ebro's feet to the fire a little bit, though, because I remember vividly when he smoked the complex staff. They did a hot 97 interview, and I appreciated Ebro. He was like, you enough with this list shit, I need to see the people that did it coming here for an interview. Three people from their staff writing list came in and Ebro tore them the fuck apart as he should have.
Starting point is 00:25:30 Everything Ebro tore them apart about I feel like he did on this list. Yeah, but that's how I go. You became everything you fought against Ebro. Yeah, but Apple came to him and told him to do his job and he had to do his job. What would you expect him to do?
Starting point is 00:25:42 Well, he fought for the low-end theory. You know he had to get that on there. That's the first album. I brought on here. Oh, Flower Boys on here. That's cool. Is it? That's a great
Starting point is 00:25:50 Ma. It's a great album. A head of confessions? Cut the shit, bro. It's not a confession. I wouldn't know how to compare it. Oh, it is. Oh, it is.
Starting point is 00:25:57 No, I'm just saying. I'm looking, that's what I'm saying. This list is fucking crazy. Calming through here in terms of recent albums, it looks like the most recent one at least to my knowledge is CIS at 72.
Starting point is 00:26:07 How do you guys feel about that? I mean, I think it's a... Great album. I think it will be revered as a classic as time goes. Yes. But it's better than confessions.
Starting point is 00:26:18 I'm not ready to make that. make that claim. Yeah, that's just insane. That's insane. Yes, a lot of with lists like this, too, is time is kind of the enemy. Like, it's hard to even compare what low-end theory has done in the last 30 years as compared to what Good Kid Mad City has done in the last 15. Like, it's, it's not even fair.
Starting point is 00:26:42 Is it? Because, I mean, the top two albums on this list are a lot older than, a lot of these albums up here. I just feel like the new artists, you can't even bring them up yet because time hasn't even told us if this is the best. And that's why, again,
Starting point is 00:27:00 seven for Good Kid Matt City. Like, come on, man. I get it, but come on, dog. Like, what we, like, let's just be, let's try to be a little real, just a little bit. We ain't got to be all the way real.
Starting point is 00:27:13 All right. But at least let's be a little real. Why not? Number seven? What you just said? It hasn't been long enough to say that. I'm going off the credentials that Ebro tweeted. As far as impact, it is the modern day last rap classic that we can speak to.
Starting point is 00:27:30 It defined a generation. It will be heralded the same way, Illmatic. I used to say, I guarantee you in 50 years, they'll have that van on Urban Outfitter's shirts. It's going to be the quintessential real hip-hop album that also sold the way a pop album did. I could argue, yes, it could be in the top 10. My Beautiful Dark Twits. I think going to hip hop route. My beautiful, it's not even close.
Starting point is 00:27:51 My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy is better than this. If we're taking the hip hop classic, the most recent hip hop classics, if you put those two head to head, get, I love that kind of album. It's not fair. It's not close. I wouldn't say that. Kanye West was already a superstar by that point. It doesn't matter where they're at in their career.
Starting point is 00:28:09 We're talking purely on the album. I'm saying the impact of what Good Kid Mad City did in 2012 where rap was at was. was insane that a hip-hop album like that could create a superstar like Kendrick Lamar. That would have been deemed an underground album five years prior to it. It wouldn't even been talked about. It defined an entire generation of real hip-hop.
Starting point is 00:28:32 It's a good, it's a listen, I love the album. I think the album was dope. I'm just saying number seven, that's just a little... In the totality of... Ambitious. What's the oldest album on here? I don't know
Starting point is 00:28:46 Whatever there's Beach Boy shit on you So we're talking about decades on decades Yeah for a generation Good Kid Mad City was one of the most impactful shit for hip hop period It was Can you talk about the impact Like what impact did it have?
Starting point is 00:29:01 We went from the Snap era It really looked like hip hop Which was the worst era in rap history It was fucking crazy That era was nasty The blog era came after but that was the blog era. That wasn't anything that was on a huge pedestal.
Starting point is 00:29:18 There was still good music coming out. But that type of rap was just underground bullshit at that point. Nobody wanted to hear lyric shit. If you want to, go listen that shit in your computer by yourself. This was a... I hate to say, what's another word for real hip-hop?
Starting point is 00:29:35 Authentic? Real hip-hop. Authentic. So you think Good Kid Mad City has... It was the first authentic album in God knows how many years that also superseded any type of underground stereotype. Like, it sold crazy.
Starting point is 00:29:51 It toured crazy. It became the single moment where people were like, oh, rap still exists? You think that a list level. You think that Good Kid Mad City asking you, fuck this list. You think that Good Kid Mad City deserves to be number seven and Illmatic is number 48 or whatever it is? No, I don't.
Starting point is 00:30:14 Okay. Don't put me in that corner. That's what I'm just asking. I'm just asking. And listen, I know I'm ranting because I didn't really think about this. I am arguing kind of for the sake of arguing, but I do really understand
Starting point is 00:30:26 good kid getting the credit it does. It's a great album. I don't at number seven. Not a number seven. Purely based off the example I've said three times now. If we're talking one hip-hop album, get it the fuck out of it. It's not.
Starting point is 00:30:38 Like when Illmatic came out, it kind of flopped, no? I'm not gonna say flopped. We're not talking about how great the album is, but yeah, as far as sales. It wasn't like a big thing. It did 60 to 63,000 copies. Yeah, and being-
Starting point is 00:30:54 back when people were buying out. In 94. It debuted at number 12. It was viewed probably not as impactful to the masses because he was rapping even like that in 1994. Yeah, but rap wasn't as popular. For Kendrick Lamar to rap like that in 2012,
Starting point is 00:31:09 he was not like some sought out star. He didn't look like a star. He didn't act like a star. He didn't talk like a star. To make an album like Good Kid that I think is similar to an Elmatic of genius in 2012 at a time when people thought authentic hip hop was dead
Starting point is 00:31:26 puts it in a different type of impact for me. 242,000 first week for a good. That's crazy. But that speaks to when Ilmatic came out on paper, technically hip hop was only what, years old, 21 years old. Now in 2012 where hip hop was at is one of the biggest
Starting point is 00:31:46 John was on the planet. Yeah, but that was hip hop's at its first peak though. Like early 94? Approaching its first. I guess that's kind of at the early end of it. Yeah, and I mean, rappers were selling in 94. And I'm not taking anything away from Illmatic in its impact as time went on.
Starting point is 00:31:58 That's why I was saying some of this is kind of unfair because we saw the impact of Elmatic now, for sure. And over the years, I'm saying good kid out the gate. You're like, this is something that has changed music, hip hop specifically, forever. I don't know if I'm ready to give it all that. At that point was so commercialized. I don't know if I'm ready to say good kid Matt City changed hip hop forever.
Starting point is 00:32:20 I'm not going to say all of that. I think hip hop has always been what it is. Obviously some artists come along and push it forward. Kendrick being one of those artists. But I'm just saying number seven is just kind of hot. I'm not that part. That's all I'm arguments. I'm not saying it doesn't belong on a list.
Starting point is 00:32:37 I'm just saying number seven. is very high for that album. What are your thoughts on a Take Care? Drake's at number 47. At number 47? I mean, again, it's subjective, man. But I mean, I think that that's kind of low.
Starting point is 00:32:55 That's a little too low on the list for me. Again, it deserves to be in the top 100. I wouldn't know where to place it. Yeah, it's definitely, as far as everything Ebro said, yeah, take care should be on this list. Rihanna Zanthai's at 55. Love that album. But, I mean, yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:12 Great album. I don't know how to compare it to guns and roses. I just don't. This run is crazy. It's gait goes Stevie Wonder, talking heads, Janet Jackson, Outcast. Like, how do you even compare that? Because everybody knows if you listen to Stevie,
Starting point is 00:33:26 you got to end it with some talking hair. And I know they weren't like sequencing it. They were, right? But again, how do you even put them together? Bjork on top of that, then Bob Marley, yeah. Aretha Franklin, Nause and Carol King is sick. Wait, where is Bob Marley at? He was at, uh, 46.
Starting point is 00:33:42 I thought they'd put him at one. I'm, yeah. The way we were arguing, uh, the thriller shit. I would say, wait, wait, did you say Bob Marley's overrated? No, I didn't say that. Yeah, she does exactly what she said. You said Bob Marley is overrated. Exactly what the marriage says.
Starting point is 00:34:00 It's on tape. He was talking about police brutality back then. We did it. We still get my ass kick. Yeah. Still. Why are you laughing? White man?
Starting point is 00:34:07 This was in the 70s. just laughing at you say Bob Marley is overrated. That's, Bob Marley being overrated is a crazy thing to say. You should have never got Twitter. It's made us so bold in our takes. Julian said the Beatles were trash off, Mike. I think the Beatles are trash.
Starting point is 00:34:22 I'll say it on. The Beatles being trash is crazy. That's a crazy thing. I understand. It cannot be for you. Okay, it's not for us. No, it's definitely not for me. But to E.ro's list.
Starting point is 00:34:30 But see, I don't even understand how you say that because you listen to, you listen to like. I listen to everything. I am very complicated. You were playing the Beatles today. No, I wasn't. I was playing. I was playing Tom Petty and the Prince. Oh, okay. Old derivatives of. But like I, look, I, I think to Ebro's criteria, I understand in the moment, impact. Like, you can't go back, watch those Beatles. It's like, well, bitches used to pass out from Michael Jackson. Same effect. I get that. They were torn before that was even a thing. So I get it. For impact alone, they obviously deserve to be on the list. Personally, I think the music sucks. Where's Joe to see on this list? Listen, I don't listen to the Beatles like that at all. And wouldn't, pretend to, but I don't have the
Starting point is 00:35:10 Diary of a Madman is a fucking classic. The boldness to say, yo, their music sucks. I think it sucks. The beat's crazy. Yeah, shit is fucking ass, bro. Yesterday sucks. A day in the light sucks. Like, it's all like bubble gum pop kid music. No, that's the hits that you probably like.
Starting point is 00:35:28 Yeah, that's the shit that you listen to when you're know. A day in a life you should listen to. He don't know. He don't know Sir Paul's B. sides. You don't know. You think all the lonely people sucks? I cry every time I hear that. No, like I get like yeah, the introspective records are dope. I'm
Starting point is 00:35:44 hating on the commercial records. I think they're awful. I hate their commercial records. But somebody could say that about your favorite artists. Of course. I'm not saying they shouldn't. A whole generation of people I want to hold your hand is their thriller. Believe me. My mom. That's their thing. But that's the thing. My mom is
Starting point is 00:36:01 playing this shit until thriller came out. Then it was like, all right, bro. We are. Then it was like, fuck the fuck the kids with the bowl cuts. If you get my My mom's oldest sister started. I want to hold your hand is the greatest song of all the time. And there's a whole generation that, like, feels that way about the Beatles. To say they suck, I can't do it. I don't think that.
Starting point is 00:36:19 And I ain't going to lie. Myke's, Strawberry Fields is crazy. And I ain't going to lie. Mike cleaned up Paul McCartney up on the girl is mine. Frank's version of Strawberry Fields is better. He cleaned up his life when he took his puff. Yo.
Starting point is 00:36:32 Mike is diabolical. Paul took his bitch. He took his puff. Yeah. That's a crazy one. That's how you do that. I don't know. That is how you do it.
Starting point is 00:36:41 That's how you do that. Mike said, I bet. I got you. Wow, Roy, whose pub can we buy? And by we,
Starting point is 00:36:46 I mean you. Buying Rory's pub is sick. No, but who, no, we got to buy somebody else's pub, though. Somebody else's. My finances right now,
Starting point is 00:36:54 though, mims? Don't do that. But never mind. It's too many samples on that song. Yeah, that's not even worth it. You put like six hit records
Starting point is 00:37:04 in the background of that. Hey, Apple, fuck this list. Stop. pushing this shit to me every time I open Apple Music on my phone. I don't care about this list. Stop doing that. Would you ever try to make a list?
Starting point is 00:37:16 Nah. My list will look crazy. My list? Per money bags. Oh my God. You'd have Benny over a miseducation. Yo, Tanna Talk 4 really. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:37:29 It really did something to me, man. I mean, I just got to be honest with you, man. Reasonable drought? Oh, Jesus Christ. Motivated drug dealers worldwide. Wow. Classic. Classic shit. But, I mean, listen, we fell for it, Apple. You got us. Yeah, it is what it is.
Starting point is 00:37:44 This wasn't personal. I want to mend our friendship one day. You hate that, man. I don't hate Zane. I made, no, Zane is a gangster. I have you on audio. I think we have you on audio saying you hate Zane. I was mocking him in his accent after an interview, yes. I know exactly what I did, but I thought I was making just a light joke. know the moment you and I stepped on the Apple campus in California, they were like, listen,
Starting point is 00:38:12 if it wasn't for Nikki, you're banned from here. That's sick. That was funny. How did they even know we were in that van? That door slid over there like, Roy, we need to talk about. How'd you know it was us? This is a regular black van. Like, that's it. And Azad text me, what did you do, what did you do to him, question mark, question mark? Because there was some EO shit that was going on at the same time. I was like, I didn't know there was a beef here. They didn't even want to meet about EO shit because of that. Yeah, but you mocked him and you kind of like shit it on his interview style and the questions he asked. I just said that he should just interview the artist with them on his lap.
Starting point is 00:38:51 It would just go better. All right. So you don't see how, and you saying that somebody would be like, yo, fuck him, don't let him on his campus? Yeah. All right. That's all I was trying to get to. I'm sure doing this with Zane was really tough because according to Zane, every artist in every album is the greatest of all time. Amazing, yeah.
Starting point is 00:39:08 It's the best thing I've heard. How could he even narrow shit down? Because anything you mentioned to him is the greatest. Or whoever's he talked to. He's like the Jimmy Fallon of these interviews. Yeah, no, shit on him. Even though you said you want him into friendship. Keep shitting on them.
Starting point is 00:39:19 Sure. But like, were you don't want to be, Roy? Like, Jimmy. Hey, Zane. Every joke's the funniest joke he's ever heard. We'll smooth everything over with you and my guy. The actors don't even make a joke. And Jimmy Fallon's like, his drunk ass.
Starting point is 00:39:31 It's like, whoa! It's like. It's funny. He's such a fuck. You just asked me how I was doing. You took a car here, whoa. Shut up. Listen, jokes aside, I think there is an important lane for journalists like Zane, though.
Starting point is 00:39:46 Oh, absolutely. Because we talk about, I hate that everything has become, we have to grill every artist and make a moment and, like, be mean to artists. I enjoy his interviews. Just sometimes it go a little too far. There's no way every artist you sit with is, this is the greatest thing you've ever heard. That's all. He has good interviews because people feel safe and they can say shit.
Starting point is 00:40:10 Roy, you also, but like, you're like the opposite as ain't low. Like, not everything, you don't need to hate on everything. Because every five seconds you come here and said, this is the worst shit I've ever heard. Not everything is the worst shit you've ever heard. Am I like that? Yeah. I'm, I'll take, I'll take a self-warness check. I don't think I do that, but.
Starting point is 00:40:27 When something's bad and we'll be like, all right, it's bad. I feel like, I get a lot of black for not doing it. This is the worst shit. This is the worst shit I've ever heard. It'd be like, bro. It's not that bad. Well, I mean, I, I definitely use, I exaggerate.
Starting point is 00:40:39 And saying something is the worst shit. Say it something as the worst shit you ever heard is crazy. Like, you've heard worse shit. That's like saying the greatest album of all time. Like, I don't want to be, I don't want to be the artist. You know, that's the word. I'm like, me. Out of every artist that has ever come through this world,
Starting point is 00:40:53 I produced the worst shit you've ever heard. Can you think of an example? Literally just two weeks ago or whatever we did our ice spice. You said that ice spices, give you a light flip was the worst one you've ever heard. I stand by that. See, that's fucked up. That's a Bronx legend. Don't do that.
Starting point is 00:41:06 I'm not saying she's not. Legends put out bullshit too. That's the fact. I'm on the grounds. Again, I exaggerate things. That is up there with one of the worst songs I've heard, yes.
Starting point is 00:41:15 I'm fine. If you have another example, I'd love to continue the self-awareness, but I still stand by that. Dan, that's fucked up. That song is... Have y'all heard that song,
Starting point is 00:41:26 since? You don't think it's gonna go? Have y'all heard that song since? Well, I'm sure it's gonna do streams, numbers. They'll dictate all that. I'm sure DeMaris has heard that song since. DeMaris, I feel like she'd be outside.
Starting point is 00:41:35 I think people have heard plenty of plenty of Ice Spice songs. I've never, I haven't heard that. I don't be outside. You don't be outside. No, Julian be outside. I'll be at Sahara once a week or one. That is outside.
Starting point is 00:41:46 Yeah, but low control the music and you're only going to listen to JZ blueprint. Yeah. And I go there and I put on Jay Z right along with him. We'd be battling Jay Z songs. Like that's not really outside. That sounds like a place I'd never want to be at. Molly, you should pull up with us once. He did before.
Starting point is 00:42:01 He did before. Yeah, I'll be over there sometimes, you know. But I can't, I can't sit down and just hear a nix back. I've battled JZ records in the scene. No, I'm good on that part. Why? Come on, fan. Me?
Starting point is 00:42:11 You know how many times I've heard that record that you're playing? God, no. I don't want to hear that shit. Well, we'll battle. Well, sometimes we'll do, like, we did, like, a GZ night where we were battling GZ songs. We did, like, Fab versus T.I. I think one time.
Starting point is 00:42:25 Like, you know, it's not always just Shazzy. How did that go? Who was victorious in that battle? And who's controlling? It was you and Lowe? Y'all be doing that? I think I was T.I. I think I won.
Starting point is 00:42:35 But just because he picked shitty. I think I was TI is hilarious. He picked shitty fab songs. He doesn't have good discography taste. Kind of like fab in his own battle. Yo, pre-pandemic, we were doing like a J-Z battle shit in there. And two hours into it, I looked over to the right and Boogie Dash was on a date. And I felt so fucking bad.
Starting point is 00:42:55 I was like, dame's son. I was like, oh, he probably thinks we just did all that on purpose. I didn't even read. Yeah, that's funny. That's hilarious. That's almost like a movie. Like, that's hilarious. Like, what are y'all doing, man?
Starting point is 00:43:06 Read the fucking room, bro. That place is small. You didn't see boogie sitting right there? A table next to you. No, this was in, we were in the back. Oh, okay, okay. Yeah, we're in the back. Yeah, that was like when the back was cooler.
Starting point is 00:43:19 Okay, got you. Okay. But, all right, also, though, there wasn't a lot of people in there. I very well could have just looked over. That's funny. But why have to read the room before playing Jay-Z? No, no. In New York.
Starting point is 00:43:30 In New York. In Manhattan. You're acting like I was about to sneak an R. Kelly song. Like, is anyone watching? Yeah, I felt bad for Boogie. It's all good. I'm sure he enjoyed it. Oh, man.
Starting point is 00:43:42 He was in the studio with you during all those. Ma. If you and Roy started beefing, right? Wait, what? If you and Roy started beefing, like, let's say y'all beefing, like, his business, pie broke up, whatever, me and Julian, jobless, homeless. So let's say you and Amara previously had a good relationship, right?
Starting point is 00:44:01 Let's say Amara's, this is 10-9 years down the line. Amara's 10. Uncle Ma'amaw. You, yes, and you and you and Rory break up, whatever. Roy, would you still allow Amara to have a relationship with Ma? Even if you hate it, Maul. Like, Maul fucked you over, stole $50,000 from the company. No.
Starting point is 00:44:20 Why would he let her do that? Yeah, what? Because what if he was, like, a really good uncle? Like, he was a shitty friend, but a great uncle. She has a great father. Yeah, I think that's pretty simple. She doesn't need another good uncle. That's a piece of shit.
Starting point is 00:44:33 Yeah. He's a piece of shit to you, but, like, just like somebody, could be a great dad but a shitty father. Like, I mean, I'm a great dad with a shitty husband. Like, if you still 50,000 for me, I better not ever see you again in my life. Let alone, fuck the relationship you and my daughter have. I've been not ever seen you. I'll leave the money out because the money affects Amara.
Starting point is 00:44:49 But y'all got into it real, real bad. Like, y'all just don't fuck with each other. And him and Amara had a really close relationship. Would you stop Amara from seeing him? Minus the money. No. I'm cool. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:45:00 You're not doing that no more. Really? Yeah, I would tell my daughter he died. Mm. I'm like, yeah, no, he died. Like, he's dead. And then she got an Apple music notification. He's still posted on Instagram somehow.
Starting point is 00:45:10 Yeah. Oh, yeah, no, he's dead. Like, he just died one day. It's over. I mean, I could see that being weird if they, like, actually formed a real relationship and, like, spoke every single day. And then she's, like, kind of in the middle, like,
Starting point is 00:45:22 damn, this is weird. But, like, if that happened now, like, for what? I bought that. I bought that up because of the dame conversation that you guys were having where it's, like, it's weird to play Jay Z. I'm like, ain't that still on? Like, no?
Starting point is 00:45:34 No, but if J.C.'s boogie, he'll give him love. And that's what I'm saying. Like that. That's why I bought that up. It wasn't random. I mean, I don't know. If Maul was at the level that Jayze was of rapping, then yeah. I mean, that's fine.
Starting point is 00:45:50 Oh, if I had it. I think if you was talented? If I had that skill set. Amar could play. Yeah, if I had that skill set. If I'm playing at the Garden tomorrow, like she can go. Yeah. Amar can listen to the Black album.
Starting point is 00:46:01 I'm fine with that. Yeah. Because I've had fallouts with people. and I have relationship with their kids and they would sever the relationship with the kid and it's like, that's fucked up because you know I don't mean no harm to your kid you know I love your kid and would do anything for your kid
Starting point is 00:46:13 so you're taking away, you're taking a person out of your kid's life who you know for a fact loves them and has their best interest in heart. I don't know that anymore because I once thought I knew you and then you fucked me over so now I don't even know this person.
Starting point is 00:46:25 I don't know if you're going to be great for my kid. Well, not, that's why I wanted to bring out the different perception of you until you did some fuck you over but sometimes you can just get into a fallout with somebody and that's just that. It doesn't mean that they're not the person you always thought they were, but you just got into a big fallout. You don't fucking them anymore.
Starting point is 00:46:40 I just feel like Amar is probably when I hang with her friends and like not Moe. You know, they have so much in common. In 10 years' time. Maul doesn't hang out with me. I don't think he's going to hang out with the Marr. That's fucked up. Don't say that, man, because people really think I'll.
Starting point is 00:46:55 People will run with that. Yeah, like, yo, they don't even, they don't fuck with each other. Like, yo, cut it out. I don't hang out. To be fair, I don't hang out with none of nobody. I was going to say that to everyone. Are we saying don't say that That is if you guys hang out because you don't
Starting point is 00:47:06 No, but I don't hang out I don't hang out Yeah, but that's yeah that's the thing I don't hang out I am trying to get better with that though Like I am trying to say that shit at the beginning of the year And I am trying to I am trying to get better with that though How are you trying to get better?
Starting point is 00:47:18 Like what's the effort in you turn? It's just gonna look like a midlife crisis if you do it now No, it's not Like if I hang out with Charles Sahara Yeah No it's not That's not true Low older than him
Starting point is 00:47:27 Is he? Is he? It's low older to me? I think you're like the same age Yeah You care about the way you look Lowe does not He does I was
Starting point is 00:47:41 I was gonna say it Way nicer than that Maybe you should believe that Yeah You actually your P bleep that No Insert the shit I said
Starting point is 00:47:50 I think What I said Yo you know how crazy The marriage You don't know How crazy that's what you just say That's a low How is that
Starting point is 00:47:58 I would tell that to his face I'm not even trying to be funny Because you're crazy So yes you would tell him that You would tell him that He doesn't care about shit like that He don't put that shit on Yes he
Starting point is 00:48:07 But De Maris, you're not making it any better. He doesn't, he would say that he don't put the shit on. I understand, but you're not making it. Meek would say the same thing. LeBarris, stop. Lo, we love you. I'm so sorry for this. That's my nigga.
Starting point is 00:48:21 That's my nigga. He said some crazy shit. I was like, whoa. And then he thought about it. He was like, yeah, I'm bugging. That's all I fuck him because he thought for like two minutes, he's like, yeah, I'm bugging out. I was like, all right, cool.
Starting point is 00:48:33 As long as you cleaned it up like that. That's where Lowe and I are similar. I'll say some shit that I believe for like five minutes and then think about it. realize that. Yo, I didn't lose my mind. I didn't see Rory's face during that clip when he was talking about is Chris Rock an English. Yo, that face you made? Yeah. Are you
Starting point is 00:48:49 okay? Like, what's going on? Yo, Rory was trying to be. He's about to fight. Yeah, like, I know that face. He's about to swing. That face is the face the face the kid makes before he shoots the school up. That's the face where he punched that, when you were you in pre-K? What did you do? You punish that kid? That was more of a push. You pushed the kid. It was down some steps though. That was funny
Starting point is 00:49:07 as fuck. No. that surprised you guys that terrified me more than I think anyone because I don't remember making that I don't remember even feeling that way I didn't even know that was inside of me Look at that face
Starting point is 00:49:21 Wait I'm gonna do that again That is definitely school shooter energy right there Like we weren't even talking about Anything remotely that could warrant that face At all at all No it scared me We were just debating if we thought Chris Rockman
Starting point is 00:49:37 You know, the banning of the eye. We were just debating if Chris Rock was an A-list or not, that's all. And you gave us one of those faces that I, if I saw that face and I was at a post office, like, I'm leaving. I'm like, I don't know what. The post office is on right now, but I'm going to go, I'm going to go ahead and get up out of here. That's a type of rage that you're born with. Yeah. That's a hereditary rage.
Starting point is 00:49:56 Yeah, you can't teach that. I don't care. What happens to you in your life? Yeah, I want that guy. I want that guy. I want that guy in a foxhole with me. Like, if I'm in the foxhole and surrounded by Charlie, I want that guy with it. This is what he does for a Chris Rock A list.
Starting point is 00:50:08 Imagine what he'd do in wartime. Exactly. Got to protect that type of energy. Speaking of protecting energy, Cassie finally released a public statement, you know, in light of everything that's been going on. In light of the Diddy Apology or I'm Sorry video. And it's good to see Cassie receiving love, seeing a lot of women in the comments supporting her. and you know it's just it's just good to know that Cassie is doing better
Starting point is 00:50:41 she did state that you know this healing journey is never ending which I'm sure most women who have been victims of domestic violence can attest to but it was good to you know just get some some words from Cassie so I don't think should I read it I don't think no I did want to draw attention to one line in here that I think is to least to me stood out the most
Starting point is 00:51:02 she said my only ask is that everyone in all caps open your heart to believing victims the first time. Yeah. To me, that's where this all begins and stops. There's too much speculation. Why is everything need to be on camera? These women are people too. Like, things are happening.
Starting point is 00:51:17 And most of the time, they're happening behind the scenes. If there's smoke, there's more likely fire. Just believe the women. I'm not saying bury the guy under the first fucking accusation, but just there's patterns. I think that, yeah, it's because we can imagine how much it takes for a woman to get to that point of wanting to get help, talking about what she's going through, what she's dealing with. And it's very, you know, I can only imagine how hurtful and how alone somebody would feel if they
Starting point is 00:51:49 would come out, like finally gain the strength and courage to come out and talk about what they're going through and only to have people kind of dismiss it and, you know, kind of just move past it and not even paid any mind. So it is important to listen to anybody, not just women, listen to people when they are speaking on what they're going through, what they're dealing with, what they're feeling, especially when it's somebody that is suffering some type of physical abuse. I think that it's important to be there for people and to, you know, if you're able to help people, I think that's our responsibility. Just as human. I think that's human nature. That's just something that I think that, you know, if you're a decent human that, you know, you feel when people are going through something, you can kind of feel that energy like this person.
Starting point is 00:52:43 You know, a lot of times people will start talking to me, like women are to start talking to me that I don't really know like that. Like, we'd be cool in passing and they'll just start talking, talking, talking, spilling things. And I start to notice that, oh, you just need somebody to talk to. because we're not like like our relationship is not like that where we don't have deep conversations but sometimes I've been in positions where women will be talking to me and I don't even know how we got on this topic and I'm just like oh they feel safe you have a very safe energy women feel safe with you right so well thank you for that de Maris but you know and I think that in that in those times it is important to just recognize when people are trying to say something to you
Starting point is 00:53:23 and trying to tell you something, maybe they're not using the words verbatim. But women have a way of telling you things without actually saying what it is. I just think you need to be open and to receiving those type of conversations, that energy. It doesn't take much to just be there
Starting point is 00:53:43 to listen to somebody and to talk to somebody. And I just think that as humans, it's our duty at times to just be there for others and help if you're able to. So for sure. And also, it's, it's, I'm sorry. And I know we ever, legal, legal, legal, we talk about all that legal shit. It's a red flag for a 35-year-old man to be dating a 19-year-old.
Starting point is 00:54:04 So I don't see why people are sitting up there saying, oh, why didn't she just leave? Why didn't she just this and that when you're talking about a 35-year-old millionaire man and a struggling 19-year-old artist? If you can't see the power dynamics in that in so many different ways, then you're being blind on purpose. Yeah. I mean, what stuck out to me in her response was domestic violence is the issue. Because I think over the last week, that's kind of gotten lost because it was Puff and it was such a icon.
Starting point is 00:54:35 All the conversation has went to so much else besides this is domestic violence. Like, this is about a victim. It's not about Puff. Roy's been texting me that all week. Like, nobody cares about Cassie. Like, everybody's arguing about who's beating on who and who did this. and who did that. Everybody's talking about the abusers.
Starting point is 00:54:53 Nobody gives a fuck about Cassie. Who's going to reply? Is breakfast club going to say, does anyone care about Cassie? At all? Yeah. It's been insane the reaction to this in media, social media, everywhere.
Starting point is 00:55:09 Yeah. I think we're kind of missing what's going on right now. This woman was viciously beat. It was puff, so I know conversations are going to go elsewhere. Yeah, because of who it is. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:55:19 That doesn't change. that the issue here is domestic violence. Right. Just because they're popular, doesn't mean we stray away from what actually happens. Right. But continue prayers to Cassie
Starting point is 00:55:29 and any women that are victims and survivors of domestic violence, you know, if you're able to talk to somebody and get help, please do. Know that you are strong enough. I know there's times where women may doubt themselves and the situations they're in
Starting point is 00:55:48 and feel like they don't have many options. and feel like they don't have, you know, many ways out of their situation, but you are, you are somebody that somebody cares about. You are somebody that someone needs. You are somebody that someone loves. So, you know, continue prayers, strength, and healing to any victims of domestic violence and physical, sexual, spiritual, verbal abuse. It's just time to, you know, hold each other accountable.
Starting point is 00:56:19 And, again, just be more. be more kind, be more caring to each other and just display some decency and more human nature. I think that we have enough information. We have enough examples of what not to do and what to do and how to move and how to treat each other. So let's just try to do that because, you know, it's time to make changes, like real changes.
Starting point is 00:56:43 Like, not just therapy and shit. Like, it's time to make real changes. And I think that we have the information. and knowledge and the education and the resources to make that change. So it was just time. It's just time to stop hearing these stories and having to see videos like that
Starting point is 00:57:00 and things like that. It's just we should be way past this type of shit. I know it's a big ask, but we should be way past this type of shit. Sure. And I mean, kind of what I was saying is why I have mixed feelings about the Cameron thing. Cameron went on CNN.
Starting point is 00:57:18 Are we allowed to play some of it? Will we get flagged for that? No, we can play this. I hate to come in here as the in the middle mixed feeling guy, but let's talk about it. Thanks for being here. First, when you saw that video of Diddy, Cassie in that hotel, did you recognize that Sean Combs?
Starting point is 00:57:46 What I want to say, first of all, when I've seen the video, everything in the video is egregious. I'm against. I don't support all the charges that's alleged against them. I don't support any of that traffic in minors, domestic violence. I'm totally against it. So when I've seen the video, yeah, I was kind of upset with it. Being that I know him, he's not necessarily a friend.
Starting point is 00:58:11 But, yeah, I was upset when I've seen it. Did you recognize him? Did you recognize that kind of anger at all? Can we pause this? Because she pissed me off. Right. Right. I know she's trying to be a journalist, but you asking that question and you're not understanding the ramifications of what you're actually asking. You're asking me, did I write, did I know that Diddy was an abusive person? That's what you're asking me on camera in front of hundreds of thousands of people. Did you know that diddy was an abuser? That's what you're asking. But we know that based off what we talked about last episode, and we got a request to go on something just as big as CNN. Yes. And it was like, no, you're just asking people in the music industry if they knew about it or saw it.
Starting point is 00:58:51 That's your only goal here. Both people, I think, are completely wrong in a situation. I even came up last episode and was like, yo, I thought about just taking that shit and then just getting in old boy's ass, pause with some other shit that wasn't ditty related. But then I'm also making a mockery out of this situation. Yeah. It's back to who, is anyone care about Cassie? Yeah. And I'm on the side of fuck CNN too.
Starting point is 00:59:14 I've always loved Cam anytime he's went up when he was, did Bill O'Reilly. I even laugh when the 60 Minutes snitch shit. But I think that all came from an authentic place. This is just, I feel Cam. You guys don't call me when it's not Diddy related.
Starting point is 00:59:33 You don't ever talk about the good shit that I do. So I feel his spite on that. But then to go up. But then to go up there and start taking fucking like honeypack shit when we're talking about sexual assault, like, just don't go up there.
Starting point is 00:59:49 And I'm about to get some cheeks. Yeah, that was a little unnecessary. That was very cringy. Very bad. Do y'all know who Cam is? Yeah. But that's what Cam said. He was like, have y'all, did they not research?
Starting point is 00:59:59 Cam was being Cam. I know, but I felt like it came from. I understand what you're saying because of the situation and the subject at hand, it should have been taking a little more seriously. I agree with that. But again, you can't be mad. at Cam for being who Cam. Cam going to plug whatever he got going on. I knew he was going to have
Starting point is 01:00:20 pink horse power up there and take a sip. Like, yo, he's marketing his, his brand and his products. Like, but bad timing. I understand it. It's Cam and he's being himself. So I can never be mad at somebody for being themselves. Um, which is why we love Cam because unapologetically, he's Cam. You know what I mean? But in this situation, under these circumstances, under this subject, I think that there was a little, you know, he kind of missed the mark with this one a little bit. Big platform CNN. You want to be cam. You want to plug your shit, dip set shirt on, pink horse power. I get it. But, you know, we're talking about a woman that was abused in some, in some, you know, egregious allegations in her lawsuit that came out a few months ago. I just think that it's, it would have been dope for Cam to still be Cam, but to show that
Starting point is 01:01:19 side of Cam where it's like, yo, that's wrong. You know what I mean? And this ain't a time for, you know, trying to go viral and trying to plug shit, you know, because you can still do that. You could have still got his, his plug shit off. But I just think he just missed the mark a little bit with this one. You're talking about violence against a woman while you're talking, violence against a woman while you're sitting there talking to a black woman on TV
Starting point is 01:01:43 and you take a sex supplement and say oh, I'm about to go get some cheeks tonight. Yeah. It's like the levels of disrespect. Granted, they were wrong. She pissed me off when she said, do you recognize this, this diddy? Like, bitch, you asked me if I knew that this nigga was an abuser, like, I'll be next to him.
Starting point is 01:01:58 Like, that's, no. I also don't like the ESPN, the CNN side of this. They, like, they know what they're doing, putting her in this seat to have her talk to him. Like, this is easily, I'm guaranteed some old dusty white guy that sits in that seat every fucking day. every other day of the week. But here comes the hip hop conversation. Let's kill a black.
Starting point is 01:02:15 Fuck diddy. Fuck did he. But anytime it's like let's kick hip hop just like the genre at its whole. It's like, let's put two black people up there and just like fight it out. Yeah. You know he was beating bitches. I'm a dick pill. Like it's just it just optically looked awful. And I think the biggest thing for me, the takeaway was like these big major networks don't foster real relationships with the people in the culture and many cultures, not just related just to hip hop for that matter. But like they're just they want. you to be a talking head to just further explain the point that they're already trying to make. Right.
Starting point is 01:02:47 So Cameron is supposed to just theoretically just have been the puppet there. It'd have been like, yeah, fuck did he's a piece of shit. So they could have been gone back to their producers, been like, we did it. Fuck did he. Well, that's the reason why I didn't want to, you know, when we approached to. But it is fuck diddy. To do the show that we were supposed to do that night. I just knew it was like, all right, you know, we don't get this call any other time.
Starting point is 01:03:08 You know what I'm saying? We've had some pretty dope shit going on. some some dope things happened up on here um so i just knew it was what it was like this is the time where in fact y'all mock the things we talk about on a daily basis right like this is the time where y'all wanted to kind of just attach ourselves to people in the culture to have that conversation about what was happening just didn't feel right um and i just again i understand camps out of it take that time to you know fuck it y'all don't call me for nothing else i'm gonna plug my shit while i'm up here but under these circumstances wasn't it wasn't the right time it wasn't the right
Starting point is 01:03:40 time. But my mixed, my mixed feelings on the side of Cam with this whole thing is, yeah, let's make a fucking mockery of this, because this is bullshit. This entire thing that we're speaking, you would not speak to me at all. You wouldn't talk about none of this shit. You called me. All right, I'm going to make a mockery out of you too. Right. Because you've been trying to make a mockery out of all of us. Right. So I get that side. I just want to know if he really had some cheeks lined up, because if he didn't and just took a shot of that, he did. And was just walking around on hard. I mean, that's, I mean.
Starting point is 01:04:11 I'm hard. Like he's going to link Mace and. No, I mean, I think it's safe to assume that Cam had a female friend that he was hanging out with late on that night. But yeah, also I feel, Cam, Valuetament, which I talk about often, I watch their platform a lot. They had Dame on sort of recently when Puff's house was rated.
Starting point is 01:04:32 And I don't think they would have had Dame on had that not happen because the first question they asked him was tell me about time with Puff and Dane was like, bro, I mean, I knew him. I don't know him like that. We were a whole different crew. I don't know him. Why you keep asking me about Puff? Well, you know, people think that because... And they wouldn't have Dame on there if that whole ditty shit didn't happen. But people just assume that because I'm a music executive and you're a music executive and, you know, you come from a hip hop culture and I come from hip hop culture that we just automatically know each other and that we just automatically like, you know,
Starting point is 01:05:04 fuck with each other. So that's the stigma that comes with being from the hip hop culture. They assume that we all know each other. Now granted, Damon Puff know each other, but not to that level where, you know, you have me on your platform and start asking me
Starting point is 01:05:20 like things about Puff and I'm just like, yo, like I don't, are you asking me if I ever saw Puff beat a woman? No, I've never seen that. Does that mean that it didn't happen? Does that mean that it wasn't going on? No, it doesn't mean that either. So that's why, you know, I chose to stay away from that platform and chose to turn that down because I just, you know, again,
Starting point is 01:05:39 it starts to feel like a mockery, starts to feel like people using a moment in light of something that's serious that's happening and that happened to someone. So I just didn't feel good about it. It wasn't the Bill O'Reilly situation. Right. That was Cam being Cam for real. Yeah. It wasn't like an opportunistic type of thing. They were really talking about some real shit. that was authentic cam to me. This felt like... I'm exploiting a little bit. Let's make a mockery of it too.
Starting point is 01:06:09 Yeah, I didn't want to take an opportunity, you know, in light of that. That just didn't feel right to me. You know, and I think when things don't feel right to you, it's okay to turn shit down. It's okay to be like, nah, I'm cool, or I'm not going or, you know, that's usually the route you should take. When you don't feel good about... I'd rather be wrong and I didn't feel good about it than, you know, be right and still do something and then have to deal with the back. Like, yo, that was crazy. Like, I just, it didn't feel right to me.
Starting point is 01:06:36 And I refused to take that opportunity in light of that moment and what was happening. Like, I just, that just wasn't me. But listen, you can't be mad at Cam for being who he is, man. He's going to be Cam, you know, no matter what platform he's on, no matter where he's at in the world, he's going to be Cam. And I respect that. But, you know, I just think that in that moment, he kind of missed the mark slightly with that one. And I already know the angle that most of these news networks are. are even taking or certain huge YouTube platforms.
Starting point is 01:07:06 They're trying to make this whole Diddy shit political. Every time I've watched them cover something that has to do with Diddy, it's, oh, yeah, he did voter die for the Democrats. Oh, he met with Hillary Clinton once. Oh, he knows people that were on Epstein's Island. It's been this whole shift of like, look, anyone that's tried to support a Democratic president is a sex trafficker. That's the angle that they're all trying to take.
Starting point is 01:07:29 And listen, if Diddy has sex traffic, throw them under the jail. but your angle here is just because he's aligned himself with Democrats. Right. I'm cool. Yeah, yeah. You're not about to make this a Republican Party thing that just because Puff is next to somebody who's a Democrat. And like you said earlier, it's disrespectful to the victim.
Starting point is 01:07:49 Yeah. Victims. It's disrespectful to them. It's, you know, I don't, I just don't understand how these platforms want you to talk about something like that. And, you know, has any money of these platforms like, like, you know, checked on the victims and their families and things like that. Like, it just seems too opportunistic for me.
Starting point is 01:08:08 I get the whole journalistic integrity thing and there's, there's unwritten rules to that stuff. CNN owes this a fucking explanation. Yeah. How did you get the tape? Who from the hotel was complicit in this entire thing? How did you get the tape? Was it CNN or TMZ? CNN received the tape for this one.
Starting point is 01:08:27 Okay. Listen, I'm glad it went out, unfortunately. but, you know, it added. Yeah. Koreans do a lot of people that needed it. Fuck your journalistic integrity. How the fuck did you get that take? Because that's a crime.
Starting point is 01:08:41 Yeah. Like, you got to tell somebody, you know, I got this from this hotel employee. Oh, I got it from the raid from the cops. Like, please tell us what this came from. Yeah. I mean, it's just a weird time, man. It's just, you know, all of this shit going on.
Starting point is 01:08:54 I'm saying a lot of shit on social media. You know, a lot of people saying some weird shit. We just got weird. The timeline this week has been insane. Yeah, it's like, yo, what the fuck is? In same. People are really like, either people are just not smart, which we know. Well, yeah.
Starting point is 01:09:16 Yeah. Or people just really don't give a fuck. Both. Both. Yeah. I think it's both. I think people are just not smart and people don't give a fuck. Because the things that I've been reading on, like, Twitter and, you know, comments on Instagram and things like that.
Starting point is 01:09:35 And it's, it's, I just don't, again, it's so disrespectful to the victims and the people that are trying to heal from this shit. Like, it's so dismissive. It's like, it doesn't matter. Who gives a fuck deal with it. You didn't call the cops. What? Like, what the fuck are y'all talking about?
Starting point is 01:09:57 So again, man, you know, just, we just got to be, we just got to be very, very aware of what's happening, what's going on. It's just, you know. It's that and what I've been texting, Jamaris, all week. Outside of no one cares about Cassie, no one cares about domestic violence. They don't. It's proven, it's been proven from me 100% this week. I kind of felt that way before. No one cares. Niggas do. I won't say no one care. I don't like generalizing, but the general mass public, they don't. No, this is just another hot topic. My new favorite. And I'll move on in the next. Nobody cares.
Starting point is 01:10:33 My new favorite angle from all these domestic violence cases is wait till the footage comes out. Why does everything need to be on film? Since when is everything on film? Why is that like the barometer before we move forward? Let's make sure he actually hit her. The craziest thing about the puff is that it was on film. It was like, how the fuck was that taped? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:10:51 But like that's not how things go. That aside. But to draw it back to Cassie's point, believe the victim. When they speak out, they're speaking out because you think they're just like, how stupid are people? And it's just like, oh, well, you know, some people, some people do lie. Some people, it's way less people that lie than people who are telling them.
Starting point is 01:11:07 Because there are even more ramifications that come with lying. Like, why don't people think of the inverse of that? If you do jump out and lie, what can come with that? Like, it's just, it's so asinine. This whole, like, I think we're so desensitized because I was saying to you guys before, like the war in the middle East is just on gopros. I can watch, like, people just, like, walk into a home and just air out of family and go about to go grab a fucking salad and so-ho.
Starting point is 01:11:30 I stopped watching that footage. This shit is fucked up. We're just so like, well, it's on camera, so I believe it because I saw it. There's mad shit we're not supposed to see or should never have access to seeing. It doesn't mean it's not happening. Well, you know, it's interesting that you say nobody cares about domestic violence. Because I go back to years ago when Azilia had made claims that Russell Crow had disrespected at a party, had spit on her, things like that.
Starting point is 01:11:57 A lot of people kind of, you know, turned their backs on Azilia, didn't believe her, things like that. And not until I think Rizza was on it. He did an interview somewhere and he basically backed up what Azizia said. Like, no, that's exactly what happened. Like, she's not lying. And it was like, damn. Like, so y'all, it took for Rizza to say something for people to believe her. And was fucked up about that.
Starting point is 01:12:23 I remember when Azealia was also speaking out on Rizza, because unfortunately, sometimes it takes a man to confirm some shit when it comes to that. I remember Azilia going here, Rizzo, why aren't you saying anything? Yeah. Like, I'm being called crazy for this shit and he was right there and saw this shit. Why are you not helping me? And even the Meg's situation. You think back to the Meg's situation.
Starting point is 01:12:46 I took the stance. I took in that situation very early because, again, a woman, who the fuck makes up somebody shot? Like, who says that? Who makes that up? Like, yo, somebody, he shot me. Like, I've seen women lie about a lot of shit. I've never seen a woman lie about somebody shooting them.
Starting point is 01:13:06 It went from she wasn't shot to Kelsey shot her to she. Like, watching the narrative of that is the crazy shit. And to this day, it's still people walking around with free Tory shirts on. And again, and this is just all under the guise of I'm not trying to tie in other people's trauma, you know, together. I'm just saying, on the topic of domestic violence and the topic of violence. against women. And men suffer domestic violence, too. I want to put that out there.
Starting point is 01:13:31 But, you know, like Rory said, nobody cares about domestic violence. And it's fucked up. But those are examples where people seem like they didn't care. They didn't believe the victims. So again. And you ought to be a perfect person for anybody to consider you a victim. It's crazy. God forbid you use your pussy.
Starting point is 01:13:52 Or God forbid you ever had sex with somebody's, oh, she's a whore. So we don't care. if she gets her ass beat or if she gets shot. That was always a weird narrative. I don't know Meg's sexual past. Nor do I give her for them. If you call her a hoe, okay, what does that have to do with this? Right.
Starting point is 01:14:10 Okay, she's a hoe. Yeah. Now what? What does that have to do with this? And in those two cases that you named the Azalea and the Meg one, this is always the thing that people need to consider with domestic violence. More often than not, there are no witnesses because these things are done in private behind closed doors in the house because the dude's too pussyed to fucking show himself to
Starting point is 01:14:26 out in public. But like, in these cases, there were people. There were witnesses. And even when there are other people that can corroborate literally what happened and validate the victim, there are still problems in hoops that the more often not the women have to go through to get the truth eventually told. So don't fucking tell the woman that gets beat in her closet at her home in private that, well, didn't happen. No one saw it and there's no video. It's called domestic. It sucks to silence. Domestic. It's going to happen inside. The ship pisses me off so far. Where outside cannot see. Right.
Starting point is 01:14:58 Domestic violence. Right. It's in the definition of where it usually fucking happens. Inside your home with no one else around. Again, prayers to all people,
Starting point is 01:15:08 all victims of domestic violence, all victims of abuse, you know, don't want those people and victims to ever think that they're not thought about or they're forgotten, no people don't care.
Starting point is 01:15:21 Because there are a lot of people that care. So again, continue prayers and healing to anybody that has to go through that type of traumatic shit. Do we have voicemail? We do. Just get into it.
Starting point is 01:15:42 Rory Moore, the marriage, Julian. Loving the Pah. Is he in a pool? Yeah, straight to it. So how I got introduced to Rory and Moore was through an IG reel, through YouTube. My man sent me. And it was about trying to become a diaper baby.
Starting point is 01:16:00 And coincidentally, that was around my... My same time I started, you know, dabbling in that, you know, diaper changed. Nasty dabble. So my first time, Shorty had me going crazy. Like, I was into locking my fingers, all types of shit. Ma, you just did a quick reaction thus far? He was getting his diaper changed. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:16:21 Oh, I was here about his experience. Also learning about this on a YouTube reel is fucking hilarious. Bringing a world together. And by the way, I feel him because I had the same reaction my first time. You interlocked your thing? I was squirming like I've never squirmed before. Oh, wow. Sorry.
Starting point is 01:16:37 Even to the point that I started putting knee in my cheeks, bro. All right, I never took it that for. Ah. The fact that this is the cleanup one. Okay. For people that don't know. He's on his way. Moll and I were on an IG live and were talking back and forth and we were talking about getting
Starting point is 01:16:58 our assate and Moll called it getting your diaper changed. So to add context to this. which was one of the greatest terms that you've coined. Glad I can help. You put an air down there? Me? No. All right.
Starting point is 01:17:09 So it just be hair? I'm not hairy. I said he's not hairy. I don't know. That's a wild pause, but he's mentioned that before. That's why I know that. Have you dug in between your ass to see if hair was back there? It's hair, but it's like the hair that's on like frog hair.
Starting point is 01:17:22 You know, frogs have hair, but you don't see it. It's kind of like very thin. It's like very thin, very like. Yeah. Like you can feel it, but you can't see it. Hmm. That type of thing. That's good.
Starting point is 01:17:33 Yeah. So back to this gentleman's experience. Yeah. With the Nair. Put in there near your asshole. It was crazy. My second time, I think I left it a little too long. I got a little irritation.
Starting point is 01:17:45 But I took it in the chin. I was like, fuck it. You feel me? Mm-hmm. So, Shorty slipped through. She changed my diaper one more time. Mm-hmm. And she got a little freaky with it,
Starting point is 01:17:57 and she slapped my cheek off pose. And, bro, that's... That shit had me jumping out of the gym, bro. I felt like I was LeBron or some shit. That shit hurt crazy. So my question is, have y'all ever had a funny-ass moment where y'all realized that y'all was looking crazy? Wait.
Starting point is 01:18:25 I'm assuming during sex. That was the question based off that story. I'm assuming during sex that you were looking crazy. And my question is, who are you voting for? after all that. Well, I'm glad I could help you experience your first diaper changes, sir. Now, he's,
Starting point is 01:18:43 he wants to get pegged. No. Why you say that? I've had my assate and I enjoyed it. I didn't think about doing Nair down there. I also... Well, the Nair is more for her. For than you.
Starting point is 01:18:57 I know, but I'm still like, it's not that deep. Like, I'm not going to nair my asshole if that's what it's going to. take to get my ass ate again. Just shave it. And then to also, did he say he liked getting his ass slapped?
Starting point is 01:19:10 Like, he said, what he said was that it, like, kind of surprised him. I don't think he liked it, but I think he's, you know, she did it and it was- I don't think he hated it. He jumped up. He basically said he jumped up. All right. Yeah, don't smack it.
Starting point is 01:19:21 You guys aren't seeing this, this breadcrumb trail to pegging? No. He enjoyed getting his ass slapped. That's not, he didn't say he enjoyed it. As a person who's done both, there's a significant difference between getting fucked in the ass and getting
Starting point is 01:19:35 your ass slapped, babe. I'm just saying he continuing to take more and more steps dedicated to his asshole. When you say you did both, when you say talking about a person, oh, hold on, I think you just got some information. When you say speaking for somebody that did both, you've had anal sex before? Yes, I have. Talk about it. How was it? Talk about it.
Starting point is 01:19:53 This is our cleanup voicemail, by the way. I mean, this is a safe space. I think I want to keep the other one now. This is a safe space. Like, how was that experience for you. Did you enjoy it? Did you like? It wasn't. Was it as painful as you thought? So I did it successfully. I've tried to do it multiple times. I did it successfully one time and it was with a man with a very skinny penis. But anybody else who's had like a normal
Starting point is 01:20:16 size penis? No, I'm not doing that shit. I was young. I was young, much younger than I am now too when I was trying shit like that. Don't they call skinny dick like there's a term boyfriend. Boyfriend dick. No, no. Boyfriend dick is the perfect size dick. That's not skinny dick. Skinny dick is pencil dick. And all women avoid that by all costs. The long, skinny, no.
Starting point is 01:20:38 So boyfriend dick isn't anal dick. No. Boyfriend dick is not anal dick either. Boyfriend dick is just the right amount of dick you can take without, you can take every day. Like, without this shit becoming painful. That's a new term. I never heard. And so many men get so offended when they say that your dick like, oh, no, it's the perfect.
Starting point is 01:20:54 Like, it's the perfect size. They get so mad because men want to hurt you. So they want you to say, no, your dick is so big. I can't take it. because they just, for their egos, they want to hurt you. But boyfriend dick is like the perfect size. Have you given anal sex? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:21:10 Not really my thing. Yeah, I'm cool. I mean, I don't, it's not something that I run to. I don't need to do that. But, you know, women have requested it. I don't mind it. You need a vet, though. Don't let me break in some new shit.
Starting point is 01:21:24 You need a vet. You definitely need a girl in outside of a relaxer, asshole. Yeah, you need a fucking... I'm with a vet. Julian you need somebody that knows what they're doing. A pro with anal dick, like she riding with anal dick? Not like, no. That's fucking crazy.
Starting point is 01:21:38 Now that is a fucking woman that needs to be in the fucking Hall of Fame. It's the one in Belize. If she could ride an anal, I should not be sticking my dick in this girl's ass. No, I mean pro in the sense. I shouldn't be doing that. Don't do that. Don't ain't no shame. I'm not.
Starting point is 01:21:52 Why we got to be shaming everything? What is this? We can't say nothing. Because he's saying I shouldn't be sticking my dick in her if she's able to I'm prude. I'm not a freak. So, yeah. Anal shame is hilarious.
Starting point is 01:22:03 That's not anal shame. What? Who's anal shame? I meant to, yo. I meant a pro in the sense that she's done it before. This isn't like,
Starting point is 01:22:10 there's no worry that comes with it. There's no build up. It's just like, this is something I do. It's in my repertoire. Let's just go. My father's been listening to this podcast.
Starting point is 01:22:18 I just thought about that. What's up? So, the Maris are here taking in. That's the plural. The Maris taking it in the caboose. I don't know if you know that. And she took it in the caboose.
Starting point is 01:22:32 If he smacks you when he sees you, I'm not breaking shit up. I didn't say shit. I'm repeating what his daughter said. She gave me the information. Yeah, she didn't need to repeat it. I mean, fuck, that he can rewind the fucking episode. I don't know. Shit.
Starting point is 01:22:42 God damn. Put a trigger warning. Damaris's pops. For trigger warning. Put a trigger warning for Damaris's dad. Demaris's dad. If you're listening to this, fast forward. No, we're actually going to do that too.
Starting point is 01:22:51 Yeah. But, um, yeah. I think the anal shit should be like, say that for Valentine's Day or something. That's, I'm not. What's your one for a gift. It's just not like in my regular scheduled sex life. So every February 14th you want to have anal sex with your girl. Let's actually make Valentine's Day a real holiday.
Starting point is 01:23:10 Yeah. And that'll be like anal sex day. Yeah. Because you can't spell anal without Valentine, so I'll get it. I feel like. Van Allen, Van Allen time. Van Allen time.
Starting point is 01:23:18 Van Allen time. Van Allen time. That's right there. What they call it Galentines? Galentine. That's a lot of anal. He's a lot of. Anal time.
Starting point is 01:23:26 Anal time. Happy anal time. That wouldn't make you want to look forward. Oh, so the chocolate represents something else now. Oh, all right. Oh, I see what you did, baby. That wouldn't make you, like, look forward to the day. Because, like, Valentine's Day is...
Starting point is 01:23:42 Rory, it would not make me look forward to the day. But we know every year that's when we go a little crazy. No, I'm cool. I'll stay home that day. I'm cool. I'm not going outside on anal times. No. You can prep for it?
Starting point is 01:23:55 No, I'm cool. I'm cool. Well, she can prep for it. But I'm glad that this gentleman found our real. and, you know, that's a thing. He asked you a question. Have you ever had a moment during sex where you realized you were looking crazy?
Starting point is 01:24:06 Oh, yeah, I forgot the question. That I was looking crazy? Yeah. I'm sure I look crazy every time I have sex. So I don't know. I feel like that's adulthood. Oh, I know. For sure.
Starting point is 01:24:16 What? This happens, like, very infrequently. But like, anytime you pull a charl, like I get a knot or like a Charlie horse, that sucks. That sucks. Oh, seeing y'all hop around ass naked is the funniest shit in the world. And you're, like, hitting it from the side or whatever,
Starting point is 01:24:28 and that shit lock up. And then you're trying to hide it because she's facing the wall and you're like, like that, that sucks. That sucks. That's how I know is, man, we are disgusting creatures. I've tried to fuck through so many charlie horses.
Starting point is 01:24:40 Same. I'm like, why was I that horny? Go get some water. Just relax. Go eat some paedial. Charlie horses suck. That'll humble you real quick.
Starting point is 01:24:48 Well, you said go eat some salt. That'll help. Yeah, when you have cramps. I can just put a little salt. Because you're dehydrated. Your muscles don't have any salt.
Starting point is 01:24:57 Pedialite. Sodium. Sodium. I mean, yeah. I've definitely told a man like to, like he was trying to fuck through the Charlie horse. And I was like, sweetheart, go grab some water out of the kitchen. Like, we have time.
Starting point is 01:25:05 But when you fuck through it and like it ends up, what happens with Charlie Horses? Stretching or whatever? Yeah, whatever the fuck it does. You do feel more like a man. Like successfully fucking through a Charlie Horse will make you feel like a warrior. And one. Like you feel like you want some 300 shit. It's like when they took the beaches of Normandy.
Starting point is 01:25:23 What are your guys? You can't all take my answer. We're supposed to die in war. Yeah. Supposed to die in his pussy. I don't really have an answer I don't know came too quick
Starting point is 01:25:31 came too quick and then just started eating their pussy pretending like it didn't happen Ah You're doing like the slow stroke beat And then just trying to get hard again Yeah like something like that
Starting point is 01:25:39 Oh no this Eating the pussy and trying to get hard Like the stroking of the Oh I hate that It's so embarrassing I wish I would not do it It's so embarrassing Noire
Starting point is 01:25:48 How do we think we're gonna do How is that embarrassing That's embarrassing But like what else would we do Like if y'all goes off And you're like trying to eat pussy But I know that you're only eating pussy
Starting point is 01:25:57 to like try to wake yourself up. It's very good. I think it's a nice gesture because we're leaving you there horny. Like I'm going to eat your pussy. Hopefully I can get hard again. But like me just nut and quick and walking away, I think that's disrespectful.
Starting point is 01:26:10 So I'll just keep eating pussy. Hopefully it's only, niggas only don't get hard when they're cheating. They're scared. What? That is. What? Not true.
Starting point is 01:26:19 They think about their girl finding out. Yeah. Because when that's your pussy, you know you're supposed to be fucking that pussy. Do you think all of erectile dysfunction exists because of cheating. Well, not erectile dysfunction, but if you can't get hard for a certain girl. Okay.
Starting point is 01:26:34 Because you ain't supposed to be fucking with her. Doing something you ain't supposed to be doing. Get up and go home, man. Get up and go home. Get your ass up and go home to your girl. Well, we're talking about nutting too quick and then just trying to get back hard right away. See, y'all still at that age. Oh, talk your shit, ma'all, yeah.
Starting point is 01:26:51 Listen, just sit you and relax. I'm going to turn the fucking TV on, drink something. I'll be back to you in 20 minutes. I'm not trying to get right back hard. for what? Who are you trying to prove something to? If she didn't catch her and you and you nutted before she did. There's one person I'm trying to impress.
Starting point is 01:27:05 It's the naked chick in my bed. They didn't just chill for a second. Oh, I'll pull out the vibrator. I'll wait for you. Do your thing. No, yeah, do your thing. I'm going to turn up the first 48 because this nigga tripping right here.
Starting point is 01:27:15 Like, that's when I'm on. Turn that vibrator down because I can't hear. Put on the low setting. Yeah, put that shit on like the low vibration or some shit. Yeah, I've never had ego with the vibrator shit. If that's what it take, Beck.
Starting point is 01:27:28 Bring it. That's my teammate now. Yeah, I ain't. I'm, I'm going to fuck with him. Shack and Kobe. What? Because I talk to friends that, like, really get offended by that type of shit.
Starting point is 01:27:38 Mall used to be. Offend. Oh, yes, right. Mall just said that one time. Ma used to fight us about the vibrator. Fuck, she got it for her. She got me. He's like, eh.
Starting point is 01:27:45 I said, nigga, you don't vibrate. Yeah. That's I do. How you know how I don't vibrate? I just thought humming. Hmm. I mean, humming on the click. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:27:56 Same shit. Does do wonders. How you think they invented the vibrator? They had to study the man first. They didn't just create that shit out of thin there. They studied the man. Eve came from Adam's rib. Exactly.
Starting point is 01:28:08 Vibrator came from the home. Exactly. Yeah, just read a Bible. That's all you got to do. So all right there for you. Shit. Well, hopefully we helped this gentleman out. Y'all didn't answer him.
Starting point is 01:28:17 We did. We did. I said the Charlie horse. I said I probably always look crazy when I'm fucking. I don't, I can't pick a specific time. Charlie horse, yeah, for sure. What about you? What about from the woman's perspective?
Starting point is 01:28:26 What's the thing that happened to you? Oh, I grew up thinking that, like, my moan and, like, my sex faces were the cutest in the world. Until you found out the same like Jeter kiss. Why'd you run the kiss there? The next time I'm getting fucked, I'm going to call them all and put it on speaker phone. What? Please don't. I'm sorry.
Starting point is 01:28:46 Please don't call me. Whatever I need to do for that, not to happen, tell me. I'm just don't call me. And any man that's cool with that, you shouldn't be fucking. What? Fuck out of here. Call us some of my. him like, yo, I said,
Starting point is 01:28:57 shut up, and listen. I'm like, yo, who you're the phone? You're the phone? You're the phone. I don't know. That's what my Friday night is tonight, fellas. I probably said some shit during sex that I regretted when I'm not. I saw a video of me.
Starting point is 01:29:09 I saw a video of me and I just, I was like, you, I don't know how y'all fuck me. Because the faces, I don't know how y'all fuck me. I had it. I said, I'm not going to lie to you. Your dick is not that good. I don't know why I'm making my face. That's sick.
Starting point is 01:29:21 Why you got to make him feel bad about himself? No, because he was flexing. Like, ah, look at you. No, I'm just ugly. I didn't. I'm just ugly. It's not you. I'm just the ugly bitch.
Starting point is 01:29:31 Make sure he feels bad about himself. Yeah. DeMaris. Tell us the story when you uplifted a man and made him feel good about himself. I do. I'm very nice during sex. It's afterwards. Like, what happens in Sex Vegas stays in Sex Vegas. Don't tell me what I was saying during sex.
Starting point is 01:29:46 That wasn't me. That wasn't you. That wasn't me. Don't tell. Don't bring up. You have the video right here. That was you. I hate when niggas bring up some shit.
Starting point is 01:29:52 I said during sex like, okay, I said I was going to buy you a unicorn. Why are you bringing you? bringing that up at dinner. Mm. You ever tell a dude you love him the first time you had sex? No. Hell, no.
Starting point is 01:30:02 That's crazy. No. No. That's wild. It's not my swag, but I think that's more normal than people. Oh, people definitely, I definitely let it slip before I was ready to tell somebody but not during.
Starting point is 01:30:13 Have you ever told somebody you loved him for the first time during sex? Like, that was the first time you told them? Yes. It slipped. You're lying, though. You ain't let that. If you didn't tell them before that,
Starting point is 01:30:23 you don't mean that shit. No, sometimes, girls. we hold shit in because niggas are niggas and I don't need to let you know how much I like you. Every time I've let a nigga know how much I like him too early, it backfired on me. Well, horny brain will just have you saying wild shit. Wild shit anyway.
Starting point is 01:30:37 I really told him I want to buy him a uniform. It works both ways. Watch a video back of you and we're both saying things that are now weird with post-night. That we don't mean. This is odd. Say that again? I said, I told him I want to buy him a unicorn.
Starting point is 01:30:50 I told him I want to get married. Oh, he must have been a nid. A unicorn. A dad. A Damaris dad, if you're listening, press fast forward. He must have been in there drilling your ass. I'm going to buy you a unicorn. I'm going to buy you a unicorn. I would even stop.
Starting point is 01:31:02 Like, yo, what you're talking about? What the fuck are you saying right now? He was with it. He said, where can we get one from? He was with it. It's some sick shit going on. I wouldn't even know how to interpret someone saying that to me. That's what I'm saying.
Starting point is 01:31:14 That's up. I would tell you, yo, shut the fuck up. Just shut up. Shut up and take this dick. Shut up. I'm going to buy you a unicorn. Where are you getting you? Who's a unicorn dealing?
Starting point is 01:31:22 That's not what I said. sound like during sex. Oh, my bad. Like that. Damn, yomi. That's funny. Hey, yo, tech makes some drop. She's sitting there looking back like,
Starting point is 01:31:44 you fuck the frail shit. Yeah, exactly. Yo, that is fucking hilarious, yo. That's some funny shit. Right there. Holy shit. But hopefully we help this gentleman out.
Starting point is 01:31:59 We did not help him. Don't near your ass no more, sir. Just get a manscape clipper and just like shave your ass. No, no, no, no, no. Just get the manscape clipper trimmer. Isn't she going to get in your booty hole? No, because you could cut your ass. For those of who you who don't shave your ass, you can cut your ass.
Starting point is 01:32:15 No, but like you use like a clipper. And that's a rough cut to half. Yeah, because it takes a while for that to hear. You look like scar, but on your booty hole. Yeah, but you get the manscape clippers. You guys the guard on it. Oh, okay. The guard.
Starting point is 01:32:25 Yeah, he could do that. But then you guys stick the whole clippers in your ass. I feel like the near is less invasive. Yeah, but, well, it's not a... Probably. If you're that committed, just go, like, get a real wax. I just have her trip. Definitely not doing that.
Starting point is 01:32:38 I'll just stop getting my ass. This gentleman's committed, that's what I'm saying. Oh, no, he's all the way in. So you might as well get a professional. Get your asshole sugared or whatever it's called. Yeah. Go get shit. Sir, if wherever you are in the world, find your local sugaring center.
Starting point is 01:32:50 Get your asshole. And go get your body sugared. And the fact that that sentence makes sense. Some people think it feels good. Like getting their asshole waxed. I'm not one of those people. I don't like the warm wax like in my nether regions. But I have cousins who like it in between their crack and on their lips.
Starting point is 01:33:06 They like the hot wax. Yeah. Which lives? They're coocheous. Oof. You have what? They may have some inner issues. No, they might just like hot, like the hot feeling of the wax.
Starting point is 01:33:16 Yeah, but the pull. Yeah. No, they're not that big of a fan of the pull, but the hot feeling. Oh, okay. Oh, that's different. Yeah. It's kind of like a pleasure before the pain. Like a warm wax.
Starting point is 01:33:24 It kind of feels good on the skin once you. it dries, but pull them with that, what's that tape? Whatever that is, that they use them, you waxing? So with soft wax, they use a strip that connects to it, and then with hard wax, they just rip their wax off. Oh, it's just like, yeah. Yeah, I'm cool. Just take duct tape and just rip it.
Starting point is 01:33:40 I'm cool. I don't want none of that shit. Well, hopefully, sir, you don't leave the nail on. You leave it, I think, for four minutes, three minutes, maybe, if that, and rent it off. Don't walk around the house and start watching the fucking game with nair in your ass. but enjoy you know whatever you and your partner
Starting point is 01:33:57 it seems like you found something that's work for you glad that YouTube reel I'm glad that YouTube reel was able to reach you and help you and yeah and make your your eater more this woman sounds like an angel
Starting point is 01:34:09 yeah yeah no she's she's to be protected yeah any woman up you need to keep her because the rest of what's saying out here and it sounds like she just pull up on sight for him
Starting point is 01:34:16 the way he was describing that yeah she just comes like they're probably fucking each other and that's a regular like occurrence in her house warrior. She's a warrior. I hope you eat
Starting point is 01:34:25 her ass too. I know a Golden State Warrior when I hear one. Jamal. What? All right. She's she real Jason Richardson type? Oh my God. She's a fucking Jesus. You thought Steph was a franchise player. Jesus Christ. The original Golden State Warrior
Starting point is 01:34:41 contest. Yeah, Monti Ellis, if you will. She's Baron Davis with him. Yeah. Oh, man. Got a love to eat her. She's Nick Van Exel. All right, Roy. Nick Van. Do we have more voice? I don't remember old words. We, okay.
Starting point is 01:34:55 This is, this is, we have an update on the racist baby mama. Oh, great. Remember that one? Yes. Love the racist baby mama. So context. There was a baby mama, white woman who was pregnant by this guy's brother. The whole family is black.
Starting point is 01:35:09 Everyone in the family except the guy who got the woman pregnant, pregnant knows that the, the baby mama is racist, has been talking bad about his sisters, other black people. This whole mess and the whole voicemail revolved around, okay, who. Who in the family tells the guy that got her pregnant what's happening because he was the only person in the dark. Our caller was like, I don't want to do it. Someone else should do it. And that's where we're all up to us. You know, right now he knows.
Starting point is 01:35:36 Hey, Rory, Amal, this is an update to the racist baby mama situation. So my brother who I talked to about the situation, he told the other brother that had the racist baby mama. And the, with the man with the racist baby mama, his response was, I knew she. was right or like I saw the post already I don't care which is everybody knew he'd react that's why I said that he's just he's stubborn um he is kind of like sheltering himself out from the family now he doesn't go out to any family events we just had a mother's day celebration um he didn't come so I think it's a self-imposed exile like he's like I'm not hanging out with anybody anymore I'm just keeps myself until this baby comes out and whatever whatever and whatever and
Starting point is 01:36:23 we have another update. Turns out he doesn't even know if the baby is his. So it's all over the place right now with like what's going on with him in his personal life. So that baby's going to be fucked. Thanks. Have a good one, y'all. Yo, saying that baby's going to be fucking to say thanks. Appreciate the insight.
Starting point is 01:36:44 I mean, this is pretty simple. She got some good pussy. That was your takeaway. When you detach yourself from your whole family for a racist? And the kid might not be yours. And the kid might not be yours. And you still standing on business? Not some white fires.
Starting point is 01:36:58 It might be some Amber Hurd. Or this might be the biggest sucker on earth. Yeah. I mean, you know, two things can be true. Yeah, that situation is weird. But it sounds like you just got to let that guy, you know, get what's coming to him. And he sounds like he's going to be in a crazy situation. The fact that he doesn't even know if the kid is his or not.
Starting point is 01:37:21 And he's still with her and not. like hanging out with his family, not speaking to his family. Yeah, sometimes you got to just let people just, just running today, karma and, you know. Or do you think he's just praying that it isn't his kid? Either way, she's pregnant. If it's not yours, I mean, why are you still with her if you think it's not yours? And if you're praying, it's not yours and she's pregnant, why are you with this woman?
Starting point is 01:37:46 Yeah. It's just a crazy situation whole way around the board. Like, you just need to leave alone, which is what I'm saying. He's not leaving alone because the sex is incredible. Best case scenario, it's not his kid, and he gets a second lease on getting out of that situation. He's still in it, though, and thinks that the kid may not be in it. But I think he's only in it because he thinks the kid is his. Okay.
Starting point is 01:38:05 I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt. I don't know. He could still just love her, which is crazy. It might be his best either. You know, men, people, men love women for other things other than their sexual capabilities. It depends. Name one thing. It depends.
Starting point is 01:38:22 It's crazy. No, that's what she's saying. How well can you cook? The important things. Can you feed me? Can you fuck me? Can you shut up when the game is on? Anytime Yomi, like, sits a little more forward in her chair.
Starting point is 01:38:37 I know Moll's saying some bullshit. Yomi said this why you single. Me? Yomi! The sauce. How could you? I thought we were like, cool. What the fuck?
Starting point is 01:38:50 How could you say something bad about me? Oh my God. And I'm single by choice, Yomi. Take that. That's what all the holes say. The hos love, love that line. I'm a ho? Single by choice.
Starting point is 01:39:00 I am. By choice. You reform holes? Oh, yeah. Everybody's single by choice. If anybody wants to be in relation to, some people are not single by choice. Do you y'all think that I'm not single by choice?
Starting point is 01:39:09 Look me, look me in my four eyes and tell me that you don't think that I'm single by choice. Please tell me that. It's definitely a truth. I think you would like to be in a relationship. You've said that. You've shared that with us. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:39:20 Which is why what I'm saying that was valid by choice. saving yourself for any of your love. I get it. She just like she smells great. Like cotton candy and like the first floor of Nordstroms, something like that. That's specific.
Starting point is 01:39:37 You know you walk in all the perfume clerks are there. This isn't Cologne. This is a weapon. The nigga told me that one time. I said, I almost bought that from you just now. I like that line. That was cool. I like that.
Starting point is 01:39:48 This isn't Cologne. This is a weapon. What was he trying to sell you? Ax body spurn. Max, yeah. It was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was cold water. I want to start using the Arabian, like, perfumes. Mm.
Starting point is 01:40:02 They're rumored to smell really good. Yeah, because they got all those, all those garments on. They need to smell good up under there. Just go to 125th and buy some oils. Same shit. I try to get into the oil thing. I'm not an oil guy. They all are named like pussy print Jezebel.
Starting point is 01:40:17 What? Cucci dust. That's what them oils be named. Dorrie, am I lying? Who wants to smell like? I've never. I don't know. What little person you can do?
Starting point is 01:40:24 Cooley dust. All the niggins ever taught to sell me was champagne. Like that was a name of his shit. Champagne. Like pussy dust? Yeah, the Africans on 125th. Definitely were not selling that. Pussy dust?
Starting point is 01:40:35 When I would go to like the hair stores and stuff, those would be what they would be named. That's wild. Okay. Just before we get too off topic, for this caller, what would you guys do? I forgot about the caller.
Starting point is 01:40:46 He didn't really ask for advice. He gave us update. He gave us update. This is where it sucks to be family and a friend because he, once he finds out this. kid is not his, leaves that girl, he's going to need somebody to talk to. He's going to need support. Yep. And you have to be a family member and realize he did some fuck shit. But if that's
Starting point is 01:41:02 not who he is, for real, he just made a mistake. You need to be there for him, talk to him. Yep. Understand that he was lost. Best case scenario. He was lost in some white pussy and made some terrible decisions. So, yeah, just be there for your friend. Family as well, even though She said some racist shit Just let people be sometimes, man I'm a fan of that Just let niggas be in their relationship Mind your fucking business man
Starting point is 01:41:28 Let him get what's coming Would you do that for Biggs though Like if Biggs buried like A racist bitch like you would just let him rock That would never happen Just that thought That's so crazy Biggs going
Starting point is 01:41:42 Nah I don't care That is so crazy But nah Again you could try man Like I said, I lost a close friend of mine just telling him his girl was cheating on him. Like I caught his girl kissing another nigga in the club told him they both cut me off and went and moving
Starting point is 01:41:58 and had a family. Like sometimes you just got- They both was fucking that thing. I'm telling you. You were doing too much. They both was fucking the dude she was with? Yeah. Yo, why does your brain go so crazy?
Starting point is 01:42:07 Like, you gotta start watching these Tala Perry movies. I'm telling you, it's starting to fuck with your real life thinking. Like, I know you're not coming to me like I got a crazy fucking mindset with this shit that shoo me. Oh, I know my mind is not crazy. from a different time. That's all. It's like you're talking to somebody that's from the 80s. I'm just...
Starting point is 01:42:24 Yeah, it's like a racist white. Yeah, it's like a racist white man. Like, can you blame him? Do you know what the world was like when he was 19? It's just not his fault. He's a product of his environment. But, yeah, no, sometimes just mind your fucking business, man. Let people be in their relationships. Whatever, however crazy may be, let people be, man.
Starting point is 01:42:43 Because I'm telling you, the sex is great. He ain't leaving her. If that baby ain't his, I'm willing to... Yo, give us an update. If that baby ain't... his, I guarantee you he stay with her. He is, he is. He ain't going to tell him that it's not his baby, though. I guarantee you he stays with him. He also said he didn't care about the
Starting point is 01:42:57 racist shit. He don't care. That's what I'm saying. He doesn't give a fuck. That puts got to be crazy. I know people like that, that no matter what, it's like, bro, you're okay? They like, I don't care. All right, so then let me mind my fucking business shut up. I've hate fucked a girl before, though. What does that mean? Because it sounds like you might be admitted to a crime. Yeah. No, no, no.
Starting point is 01:43:14 Not even close. Please clean this up. There was a girl whose dad is a very successful right wing like super religious just racist asshole for Fox News. Very well known. Very wealthy. And I met his daughter did not know who her dad was eventually found out. And then I just didn't like it just it irked me so much by how awful her dad is. And when we had sex, I was just like I had I wasn't going to be in a relationship with this girl. but we had sex and I was like, it feels good to fuck this girl
Starting point is 01:43:48 knowing who her racist piece of shit dad is. I didn't like doing anything wild or anything, but I was like, fuck this guy, I'm gonna have sex as a daughter. This sounds like the bullshit on Mr. Moral when Kendrick got caught cheating. I was in Copenhagen.
Starting point is 01:44:00 And he was like, no, I'm only fucking these white bitches because I'm racist. Yeah. But that one felt good. You're telling you a girl that after you get caught cheating?
Starting point is 01:44:07 Yeah, I think I'm just racist. He wrapped that. And we all just scrolled right past. Yeah, no, we turned it up. Give him a Grammy. Yeah. Whitney had like the most beautiful response. Like I think he may have like a sex problem.
Starting point is 01:44:23 And Kendra was like, nah, I'm just racist. Yeah, that's usually what it is sometimes. Sometimes I'm not, you know, a sexual demon. I'm just trying to fuck over
Starting point is 01:44:31 people that fuck to my ancestors. Just trying to do what they did to my ancestors. Yeah, that shit. That's just dope. You know what I mean? All right, well, we've come to the end of our audio journey.
Starting point is 01:44:40 I'm sorry, DeMaris. Tell dad, I don't mean nothing about that. We'll, we'll give a spoiler alert there. Yeah, we'll give a spoiler. No, just text him. That's his spoiler. Like, don't listen to the next episode. Leave it at that.
Starting point is 01:44:53 Any music coming out this week? Oh, that, well, it's out now. Oh, we got Vince. Vince at midnight. Vince Staples. Shout out to Vince. Vince Staples album out now. Go listen to that.
Starting point is 01:45:05 Vince is one of my favorite people, man. And I hope he gets another season of his Netflix show. Yeah. That show was dope. So shout out to Vince. I tried to find the Maikami album. I can't find that shit. He took it off.
Starting point is 01:45:19 Did he? So it's interesting. I saw this on my timeline. He took it off streaming services and is now selling it on his own thing. Oh, I love that. It was like a taste. It was like if you want it, come buy it from it. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 01:45:31 I looked for it and I was like, yo, why did they lie to me and tell me you mock put out of my mountain and I can't find it? But that's dope to know. So shout out to mockami. Did you see most deaths? I'm sorry. Yassine Bay's verse on like that? Not like us.
Starting point is 01:45:43 It was not like us? Yeah. It was on. Okay. Or no, you're right. It was like that. Sorry, you're right. Sometimes I confuse Yassine and the baby, too.
Starting point is 01:45:52 Yeah. All right, fuck y'all. He went nuts. He was on IG Live, just rapping. He's still, he still got it, man. He's still in shape. He's rapping on the not like us beat? Not like that.
Starting point is 01:46:07 It keeps pausing because if he's ever recorded his service. It's the empire, gladiated circus world. Greedy, CD and creepy. Corny, horny. I'm boring. Gushi, goofy, and moose. Foolish, boobless and clueless. Variations on a petty big three.
Starting point is 01:46:26 A whole lot to look at, but not much to see. Pimps build a war machine. I'd love an album from him. Play the bill. Small land is still. Small crops to kill. Yuck, said the devil to the sinners. Send a memo to the minions.
Starting point is 01:46:40 But yeah, he goes on. He continues to go crazy. You should check out I think it's just on Luminary I bought it But the last Black Star album Is incredible
Starting point is 01:46:53 So there is recent You want to hear the baby Do not they're not like us Nope I didn't listen to it I'm cool Well I want to hear it if he don't have That double time flow
Starting point is 01:47:04 If you don't have that Oh no he does about four bars Without it and then goes right into it See that's I don't Pull it up Yeah The baby is dope man
Starting point is 01:47:11 But I can't keep hearing That same flow though Like I fuck on him But I can't I can't I thought there was hope Because he didn't start with it.
Starting point is 01:47:17 But yeah, niggas is not like us. Niggas, not like a video's cool though. He's always has great visuals. Then he goes right into the double. He goes right to the double. He wants to hit him back. And if you're acting like he want to put his hands on you to hit him first,
Starting point is 01:47:31 I was hopping out with trash bags and bitch is full of work. You can ask the last few niggins to play with me that tell you bullet shirt. I ain't talking about the pews. He's too much. He's too much. I can't. Not only bad. He admits he's, I mean,
Starting point is 01:47:42 he got off and I know the cases, whatever. But like he says he'll kill you about. about like seven times in this minute 26. He's killed someone on camera. No, I know, but I'm saying like, he's like next to the produce section. Just keeps going. And where someone in a Walmart? Yeah, it's pretty hard. It's the most well-lit place in America. I believe him 100%. I want no smoke with the baby.
Starting point is 01:48:00 Cash Cobain, by the time hearing this has come out. Cash Cobain and Jay Cole record. Oh, really? Yeah. Don't give a fuck about it. Um, uh, Cash Cobain and, uh, that's hate on Twitter like a month ago. So I'm happy to finally putting it out. Cash Cobain and Don't Tolliver, I got a dope record out right now with Charlie Wilson on it. Okay. That's a random. That's a fire, though. I'm sure.
Starting point is 01:48:22 I know what, like, when you hear it, you like, Cash Cobain, Don. Well, Don Tollivan and Charlie Wilson already have a dope record together on Don's last out. But Cash is doing his thing right now, man. That sound, like he, you know, he got that sound. And I like what Don did with that. So you really don't want to hear him and Jay Cole's record? Who? Cash Cobain.
Starting point is 01:48:41 Mm-hmm. I mean, a shout out to Cash Cobain, you know, Bronx legend, but I'm. You're a hateer. I just can't. Well, Cole isn't talking about him being the best. I don't want to hear nothing from Cole no more. I'm just to be honest. I fuck Jay Cole.
Starting point is 01:48:53 I think he's a great guy. But musically and just lyrics and all that, he's just on a, it's just not, it's not what it was for me no more. Like, I just can't. Like, I can't. To the fact, to the point where you can't even hear the song. I don't want to hear it, man. All right, well, let's play something of it. I mean, I don't care that much about his.
Starting point is 01:49:08 She like my kid game. And what you mean on kick game. I put her for a road a nickname. Now she in my phone with a nickname. Yeah, he wrote you in this one Grippy Grippy I call her that
Starting point is 01:49:23 because it's creepy She's thinking If she a hippie And she's thinking And she's going to You think That's what happened When she's
Starting point is 01:49:30 When she's She said she's gonna strip me She gonna chew on a stick Like it's Rigglies Yeah Believe it or not
Starting point is 01:49:36 Like Riplies She said she was gay Until I slay Now she's strictly Diggly As soon as she played Brory don't even I saw your face
Starting point is 01:49:43 I saw your face I like J Cole and I'm gonna continue to listen his music this record is not for me. Rory, so Rory hates when J. Cole wraps about sex. I don't want to ever hear Cole say strictly.
Starting point is 01:49:56 This is the worst shit you ever heard? This is not the worst shit you ever heard. This I'm sure will actually go up at the spot. He's got great tricks in there, IG captions. This is going to work. I'm just not a fan of Cole when he wraps about sex. I'm not a fan of Hove when he wraps about sex.
Starting point is 01:50:11 He hates wet dreams, but that's because, you know, you know. But. Wow. Wow. You know, that's because he had, you know, what happened to him in his wet dream. Can we, uh, Peach, can we reverse this and do a flashback to an hour ago when everyone's talking about we should care about victims? I care about you.
Starting point is 01:50:30 They always make fun of your shit. I tell them not to. That's got to. You just brought it up. I brought it up. I wasn't making fun of him. You, that's making fun of him. No, it's not.
Starting point is 01:50:40 She said we were making fun of him. You, she brought it up. Yes, but y'all made it a joke. I was just like, oh, well, you know, you don't like that because of, you know, You know, I didn't even say... Once again, no one's caring about the victim here. He's right here. He's right here.
Starting point is 01:50:52 Just ask him how he feels. How do you feel? I don't think... You think when I heard J. Cole, wet dreams? I thought about that. You know how I'm saying that is? Guys, stop laughing. Yo!
Starting point is 01:51:09 I ain't going to lie, J. Cole. I don't want to hear this shit, man. I don't want to hear this. Gripby. It's going to work. Don't go back because if Cash Cobain and on there was saying grippy, you would like it. Well, he does.
Starting point is 01:51:19 I'm fucking with Cash Cobain. I mean, he does. Clearly tell me that's his flow. I'm fucking, I'm fucking with Cash Cobain. I don't want to hit Jay Colby. All right, well, those plays on the way out.
Starting point is 01:51:27 Do your exit mall. Uh, fuck this record. Love the Cash Cobain. Y'all don't have certain, like, rappers you just don't want to hear talk about sex. Oh, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:51:36 I don't want to hear a lot of these nicks about. I even have Jay Z on that list. But, um, we'll talk to you soon. Be safe. Have a great weekend. Happy Memorial Day. It's Memorial Day.
Starting point is 01:51:45 It's Memorial Day. It's not this weekend. It's not this weekend. Well, it's this weekend. Oh, this is weekend? Yeah, we record. Memorial Day is Monday. Even though I'm a vet.
Starting point is 01:51:51 I might be hosting something. Let's figure that out. With DeMaris, we might be hosting something together. Happy Memorial Day weekend. Be safe wherever you at. Be blessed. I'm that nigga. We'll talk to y'all soon.
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