New Rory & MAL - Episode 28 | "...And Now We Heal"

Episode Date: December 21, 2021

Back in the frigid streets of NYC, Mal & Rory rehash their weekend work trip to Atlanta, and how it felt returning back to their igloo of a hometown. The footage of them learning to fight crime in Detroit has been posted to our YouTube, and they once again reiterate that Dale’s techniques (*might*) actually work. They get into Big Sean’s Drink Champs episode where he responds to Kanye’s previous comments, and wonder how Pusha T is handling the “reconciliation” of Drake & Kanye. This leads into a conversation about friendship, and how women and men handle them differently. Of course, we wouldn’t be us if we didn’t give people relationship advice they didn’t ask for, so we try to help Justine through her breakup with Giveon (somewhat). New music is spoken on, Christmas plans, having a loose caboose, and more! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoicesSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

This is an I-Heart podcast. Guaranteed human. Are we keeping this? Wait, are we recording? Oh, shit. Oh, my bad, Lexie. Thank you for the tweet. What's up, Lexie?

The homie said he's trying to smash. Yo. No, maybe. Try to get to know each other and see if. Now you're trying to go to a game. Yeah. Yeah, to support her career. Is there a host section for like men?

at WMBA games the way there is They sit all the men together The side dudes Yeah that are dating the WMBA player Y'all all sit together I could be a basketball husband Yeah absolutely I see that for sure

I see that in your future Yeah All right Lexi I like it Abby look good too She's cute Yeah she's cute Who did she play for She went to Duke

She's a blue devil Now she's in the WMBA And then she said Just call me Lexi Brown That's what her bio says Yeah Okay Lexi Brown Shout out to Lexi man

Lexi Brown the emotional orange I see what you doing Yeah She said I'm her favorite She's my favorite WMBA player Although you have no idea Who she plays for

She's my favorite though Okay I got it I'm a liberty fan at the end of the day Yeah yeah Just go New York Yeah Go New York right

I got you But not when Lexi's in town It's different Whatever team she is You still don't know It doesn't say in her bio? I didn't even look. Lexi Brown. It just says WMBA.

Anyways. She liked a point guard too. I just had a terrible joke in my head that I'm not going to say. Because clearly she listens to this podcast. Clearly. Just made it very awkward. I don't know what we should edit and not edit there. We're leaving everything today. No edit. It's the mood up, man. I'm tired. I'm exhausted.

Oh, yeah. I got too much sleep last night. Did you? I went to sleep right when I landed. Is this such thing that's too much sleep? Yeah, I feel like when you don't sleep enough at all, and then you get like 14 hours, you wake up worse than you were before. Mm.

So this is where I'm out with it. I'm on my busy bone shit today. Way too much sleep. Pride today. This session must have been hysterical. Did busybone invent mumble rap? Did he invent it? He was mumbling pretty early on.

I don't know if he invented it, but he definitely made it famous. Yeah. Oh, well. Shout out to Busybone the Legend. Again, I really didn't know we were starting, so if that was a weird start. No, I'm not so good. Blame Lexie, don't blame me.

So too much sleep? Yeah, you know. It ain't a lot. It's been real cold. It doesn't feel like Christmas, though. It doesn't feel like Christmas is, what, five days away? I think I might skip Christmas this year. I need a break.

So you're going to go from the 24th straight to the 26? Yeah, man. Everybody, everyone else gets to preach the self-love shit and self-care and all that bullshit. I didn't get that once this year. that I'm taking the 25th off. You didn't get self-care or self-love this year? I don't think so, man.

I don't think I had any time to. Well, that's unfortunate. It's been a, it's been a, it's been a interesting year. A lot of things just happened. This year felt like multiple years combined in one. There's so much shit that happened when you think back to just the top of the year until now. We're like a week away from like a whole new year.

And to think all the shit I thought happened last year happened this year. People bring stuff up and be like, Come on, man. You know, that's like some 2020 shit. Like, nah, though. That happened like a few months ago. That was February. What?

Yeah, a lot has happened this year. A lot of things happened. We lost a lot of people. For sure. Unfortunately. But, um, listen, that's part of life, man. It's part of life. Got to keep pushing.

Keep doing what we're doing. We went out of town this weekend. Spent some time in Atlanta. We did. We did. Had a good time down there. Yeah, we were hanging. I mean, I don't think it's much of a surprise

because some of it ended up on the internet. Yeah, we was in Atlanta, hanging out with some friends. Yeah, hanging out with JD plus a special guest. Yeah, doing some things, man, having a good time with the people. We didn't see Demaris at all. No. Only when we were working. Only shoot day.

Yeah, like, Dee was acting real funny, right? Like, I ain't going to lie, man. Dee out of town is different. I even checked up on her on Friday night. Say, yo, you're right. No text back. Oh, because she cursed me out. When she heard that we had went out Friday, she was like, oh, yeah, I ain't hit me.

I was like, Dee, when I didn't see. you show up. I just figured you was all for us. You didn't want to hang out. I thought she was just like doing her own thing. And then she was like, no, y'all didn't hit me. So now that you say you hit her and she didn't respond. He hit me when y'all got home. Y'all hit me five minutes. It was like y'all were in the car and was like, oh shit. DeMaris came to Atlanta too. Damn. Let's hit her and make sure she'll okay. Yeah, I would never do that. Y'allel. Y'all literally text me. That's not allowed. Because look, when we checked in, deed said, I'm going to go to sleep. Mm-hmm. So, okay, she's tired. That's a fact. You know what I'm saying? We had just recorded the

day before. Yeah, we have recorded the day before. Had to get up, catch an early flight. Yeah. So I'm like, okay, I understand. She's tired. So when she didn't show up to come hang out with us at the horrible decision, shout out to Mandy and Weezy, Horrible Decisions, Live Podcasts in Atlanta.

I just figured that DeMaris was, she just was like, I'm sleepy. I don't feel like going out. That's what I thought as well. And we were back in bed. I'll let you know, DeMaris. Rory was back in his room. I was back in my room. We were back by 11 p.m.

We didn't hang out. Yeah, we didn't hang out. We didn't hit the streets. Nothing, no. It came right back. Yeah, like see? We wasn't acting like no flusies out there. After seeing vaginas without consent.

Because the marriage was like our road mom. She's like our road mom. Oh, 100%. We got to make sure we let mom know that we were in our rooms tucked away. Mall and I judged a twerk contest at the Horrible Decisions Live show. Oh, you would have been so proud of us. Really? Yeah, we did a great job up there.

We empowered women. Mm-hmm. I will say, though, I did want some consent on some of that. I was not expecting to see a full vagina. that up close in public. Well, the young lady, the contestant, she was, she actually won. She was the champion.

She's a twerk champion. Her vagina was out. Yeah, she had on a leather skirt. And it was not a split decision. Yeah, she was unanimous. She felt like it would be best if she took her panties off. I think she said she feels like she twerks better with no panties. Understandable.

Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely. I understood what she was saying. Could feel the breeze better. Yeah. And she started twerking and, you know, she didn't have any panties on. And so, I mean, it's kind of hard.

not to give the title to a woman with no panties on. It's just threw me off. She really got into character. I mean, I know we're in times where you could just open your phone and see a vagina. It's still, but like when it happens in person and you're not expecting to see a vagina. Yeah. Like, I walk into a strip club and I see a vagina. Yeah.

I'm expecting that. Mm-hmm. But when you're just on a couch and then a vagina presents itself in front of your face. Yeah. Like, that floor wasn't sanitary. Mm-hmm. Her vagina was really close to like a place everyone was walking. Can you catch COVID through the vagina?

Probably. Because I'm, I read now that they're saying they think you can catch COVID through farts. It's moist, yes. Yeah. If the fart is moist or if the vagina is moist. This is just a lot. Both. Wait, right.

Wait, right. So someone farts and I smell it. Yeah, you got it. I guess, you got it. Who in the CDC? I don't know who studied it. I don't know who studying this, but listen, the CDC reporting it, it's, it's, I'm, listen, I'm masked up, what you want me to do. Oh, my God.

You know what I mean? That's awful. But we had a good time in Atlanta, man. It was. It was always cool. And the other two women were great at twerking as well. Yeah. They just didn't dive into character as much as the young lady did.

One of them, take it as serious. One of them tried to sit next to us and touch us. And I said quietly no off the mic. Yeah. And then she. Because you have to sign papers these days. You know that.

Yeah. You got to make sure. Everyone has cameras. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. We didn't just don't twerk on me. You can twerk in front of me, but don't twerk on me. But they had a good show. Really good show.

Shout out to me, enjoy it. Enjoy it. Weezy horrible decisions. And we wanted to go see 85 South. Shout out to 85 South. I fuck with those guys. Yeah, shout out to 85 South.

D.C. Chico, Carlos. But they had to end up postponing their show. So we didn't get a chance to check them out. But hopefully we could check them out soon because I support them. And I love what they're doing. We support podcasting, man. Yeah. Look at us.

Look at us. Did anything else happen in Atlanta while we were out there? We have an episode coming that I'm excited about. It was a really, really, really cool conversation. Some random shit here. in there, but outside of that, I didn't do shit in Atlanta, which is very unlike me, because I won't do shit in L.A., but I'll do some shit in Atlanta. The weather was kind of, eh, Saturday rained all day, off and on.

Yeah. So that kind of, like, you know, kept us indoors a little bit. But I always have a good time, even if I'm indoors in Atlanta. Like, I just like being around in Atlanta. It's just a cool city to be in. I went to the mall right when we landed DeMaris, right? And Mall was like, oh, yeah, I got to get a belt. So, like, let me know when you're going over there.

So I went to get food first. And then I hit mall when I was heading into the mall, no pun. And he said, oh, you're going to Lennox Square Mall? I was like, oh, is this the only mall across the street? Like, what do you, is there another mall I'm not seeing? He's like, oh, no one goes to Lennox Square. I was like, oh, my gosh. You know, God, God, he shamed me so much.

You know, damn well, I didn't talk like that. First of all. You know I didn't say, no, I just let Rory know. Like, I was like, nah, not Linux. Let's go to Phipps. Phipps Plaza, which is right across the street. That's the mall I always go to. I don't really go to LNACA.

Because that one has the same. Because that one has the Sacks Fifth and, like, all the designer. Yeah, I wanted to go to H&M. No, it's true. You know, like the one-stop shop places. Mall went to the bad bitches. So, let me tell you, so me and Moll went to the airport. You know, we were on the same flights.

So we were going to Atlanta's airport, and he has a big-ass suitcase, right? But instead of putting his new gift from Sacks in his suitcase, his new gift. He's walking around with the Sacks bag. Oh, for sure. Like, swishing it. He walks in today with a Louis bag. Swishing it.

The Maris wants me to be fluid so bad. Listen, first of all, that was a pair of sneakers that J.D. gave me that I wasn't expecting to have. So I didn't have any bag. Like, that was an extra bag coming back home. So that's why I had that bag. The Nordstrom bag was from when we and Rory went shopping. I just saved it for the sneakers that J.D. gave me. So it wasn't like, I didn't want to carry that bag, but I had to carry the sneakers back.

So see? More the personal shopper when we were at Sacks. Really? There was a gentleman that worked there. Where are the John Elliott jeans? This is what he's there for. No, because people ask me, which one of y'all is Beyonce and which one of y'all is Kelly all the time.

And I'm trying to tell you. I'm Beyonce? Yes. No, I'm not. You are the diva. Yes, you are. How? Because I...

They think it's worried for some reason. Because a gentleman that worked at Northstrom asked me if I needed help and I said... No, he was your personal shopper. He was. And he said he was changing the game. I'm not changing. He said, no. He said, nah, y'all changing the game.

The game is the same. See, but see, this is a... The game is the same. But see, the matter is, now that we snitching, right? So I go, I go, I go, brought to you by Stitcher this is Snitcher. This is now Snitcher.

Snitcher. So I'm over in the section looking at some, you know, some sweaters and stuff. I just wanted to get a sweater real quick. So, you know, I'm checking on my guy. Like with Rory at, I'm trying to see what he at. So he's like, oh, nah, your boy over here. Your personal shopper said this. Yeah, the personal shopper.

Your personal shop. Guess where? Oh, he was in the Christian Dior section going crazy. Burning it down. I don't know. He had a jacket. I'm talking about this jacket was. to the floor. I'm like, Rory, that's you. Get that. He said, yeah, but you know, it's not my

size. It don't really fit the way I wanted to fit. You know what I needed to live longer. I need to like drag like a wedding dress. See? See? Christian, I was in a regular little chill section. Just wanted a sweater. Rory and Christian Dio like, yeah, let me get all of this right here. This whole rack. I'm taking this with me. He said, you know what, Mom? I'm not going to even do it because I don't feel like carrying all this back. I'll just have a ship to the crib. You know, I said, yeah, Rory just get the whole CD collection. Just go ahead. Get it. Ship to the crib. This is the things Rory don't tell you about. But I learned a lot about Rory. I didn't even take worry to be a Christian Dior guy.

That's really the only designer shit I like. Pitchin Dior? Dior, yeah. Okay. I'm not big in the other shit. You ain't even know he was a Dior. You ain't know that, right? I started the mail wave of saying Dior me.

I hope you didn't. You got a Dior me. God, please. You got a Diorioriorior. Dior Roar. Yeah. Dior Roar, you know what time it is? It's always Dior Roar.

That's my guy Dior Roar. But shout out to, uh... Can't spell Dior without Roar. What store was that one was in? What was sex. Oh, shout out to the guys. Then right after that, you asked if, if you could slip into some John Elliott jeans. I was like, I never said slip in.

You know I didn't say slipping. Yeah, you know I've never said that in my life. You went in the fitting rooms with denim. Trying on denim is nasty. I hate trying on jeans in the store. I hate trying shit on in the store, period. I do too. I do too.

But I had to try to sweat on because I needed it for the next day. Y'all make anything uncool. How is trying on jeans? Because taking off your clothes in the store is just weird to me. Pants specifically trying on his stuff. stores is odd to me. Yeah, that's just weird. Even sweatpants is a little weird for me to try out. So what y'all do if y'all fuck around get the wrong size and don't fit?

Get them tailor to return them. Yeah. The jeans always get my jeans tailored. Or just return them. Rich. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Rich. Because my thing is like men, all we do is hold the shit up to our chest. You know what I? That's all we do. We do this right here. I know it's brown. Yeah. Like, we hold it right there. It's like, all right, cool. It fit. But going in the dress room and taking your clothes off and and trying shit on and then having a guy come like, how are you doing there?

Just like, oh, come on. Don't ask me how I'm doing it. here. Like, get away from this door. No. And the, and the curtains never really shut all the way. Yeah. Like, it's just... It's like, you're, come on. Why you trying to peek in and see how my lay is laying on me? Don't do that. I'll let you know when I come back out there. Like, I'll let you know if I'm taking this or not. Don't come ask me how I'm doing. And don't even be if you're in a self-conscious, like you feel. Huh? Like, I still? I look like, I'm a thief. That's probably one. That's racist. That is very racist. That's fucking racist. And there's not a camera on right now.

Damaris is a white woman. I don't know if anyone knows that. Oh, yeah. Absolutely. Absolutely. I know people don't, it's a fun fact. Maris is actually white. No, we lost, so we, Damaris bought me some, some mint tea and some honey because I was actually having out green room. This is why you're Beyonce.

Yeah, no, I just, I just, through a fit. No, I think that mint tea is just like the norm. Like in the, in the, in the kitchen area, they have green tea, they have chai, Earl Gray. Rory has a whole,

a slew of Irish breakfast tea over there. Of course. And I'm just like, why does it no mint tea? And I think mint tea is like standard. So I asked Demaris, I said, Demaris, can you get a cement tea? She's like, cool, no problem. You got some mint tea, some honey.

Just bought it last week. So I'm like, yes, we finally got some mint tea in our green room. Doe. Come in today, I'm excited about this mint tea and honey that Demaris went and got. He was like, Tony Soprana with a low main. Yeah, I walk in, no mint tea, no honey. So I'm okay. Open in the fridge. I'm like, I don't know why DeMaris would put tea bags in the fridge or honey in the fridge. But let me just check it. Open the fridge, nothing there. Text Demaris. She doesn't answer. She's in the whole way on the phone. So I go ask her, she. Oh, God. Karen, she goes crazy.

She's like, yo, she's like, that tea is not in it. That's because you're the Beyonce of the crew. Because you'll lose it if she took the bullet for you. I just, I thought that she maybe like locked it away somewhere. So I'm just like, let me ask the matter. Apparently I should have. We got $30,000 worth of equipment that we don't lock away. We lock away the mint tea.

Got you. Apparently. Apparently we should. That's the one that got away. We have no mint tea now and no honey. And they saw all these cameras. That's what really got. And that was some good honey she got.

That wasn't the regular bear. She got like the real wildflower. It was like the wildflower honey. Local from Albany. Yeah. Like that dark, that dark honey. You know that honey that comes straight from Vermont. Yeah, for sure.

She got that honey. Yeah. But, yeah. Vermont. Vermont. Vermont. I don't even know why you're saying Vermont sounds funny. Our bees even in Vermont.

Yeah. No, but it gets warm up there. Yeah. Vermont. Some of the best honey in syrup comes from Vermont. You don't think it gets warm in Vermont at all? Yeah. Where do you think Vermont is located?

Yeah. You think that's like it. It's like two hours away. And she's been to Toronto in the summertime, but things Vermont, Nevada summer. They never get warm? I've actually never been to Toronto, actually. I didn't know that.

Maris had never been to Atlanta. This was your first time in Atlanta, right? It was your first time in Atlanta. Oh, I'm, okay. Then you know what? I would have knocked in your door and really dragged you out. I thought you had been to Atlanta a couple times. You promised me, y'all would take me to the strip club and y'all did not.

Well, to be fair, we didn't go to the strip club ever. Nor really have time to. Yeah. Because COVID is kind of running crazy right now. That's another thing. I'm, I don't think you can catch COVID in the strip clubs. the way I am now. You can't catch COVID in the strip club?

I think it's like the number one. Then we'll start setting this equipment up in the strip club and we'll get it done in there. Alexeons in the wings. Mm, thank you, Jesus. Yeah. We're in the ass cheeks. Yeah, sure.

Let's do it. Actually, now I think about it, though, during COVID, I feel like the strip clubs are really the only places that were open. Well, Atlanta never closed. Well, no, I'm saying on New York. No. The strip clubs were closed for a while here. They were close for a while here. They were close for a while.

first things that opened, I felt like. Oh, yeah, yeah. They were definitely one of the first. So, so I heard. Yeah, I didn't, I didn't, I didn't go. But Atlanta never closed. Atlanta never closed. Being down there this weekend, it was, it was more clear, more evident that they, you know, we had our masks on and the mall people were looking at us like, why you had it was on. Whatever Florida governor was like, we're never shutting down. Yeah. Fuck this new strand. But we have reached a record number of cases in a day, I believe, or in a week or weekend, whatever it was. It was like 20-something thousand people

tested positive for COVID. So it is spreading. It's Christmas. January, we're shutting down. Everyone coming together on the holidays. I don't know. I don't know if we'll shut down. But I do believe that it's going to get more strict

as far as like mask mandates and stuff like that. I think people are going to go back to working remote. I was trying to figure out if we have to go back to work in remote how we're going to do this. Well, we can talk about that in a meeting now. Yeah. Because we may have to break some laws to do so Anyways, speaking of laws, us versus Dale came out

Yeah, the streets The streets got that yesterday Moll and I went to Detroit Carl came with us I'm debating if I want to put out the Behind the scenes bonus footage of Dale's wife Whipping Carl's ass But I'll save that for another day

I didn't see that Yeah, she was definitely Oh, she would have whooped everybody's ass I'm not trying to pick Carl out Carl was just the one that went against her And she was just the one that went against her And she was so nice and just walking around, you know, like real calm. And she just jumped in there and was like, yeah, come on, choke me.

No, no, by the way, he's not exaggerate. That's exactly what happened. I was like, wait, what's going on? I was like, we don't put our hands on women. She's like, no, come on, choke me. So, Carl, you know, Carl trying to be respectful. She was like, no, choke me. Mind you, with her special forces husband next to her.

So I'm like, this is going to go bad. I'm like, this is going to go bad. And Carl put his hands around her neck because she asked. He didn't just do that. Then she was like, no, tighter. I was like, all right, I smell a setup. Yeah, and she did a move and calls on the ground after that. So I remember.

And I was just like, oh, so y'all are being the house just practicing these moves on each other. Because she was so cool and calm just walking around acting like, you know, she was just working and she was like, yeah, choke me. I was like, oh, she knows some of this shit too. So that was interesting to see. That must be a sick house. Just the two of them in the career? What movie is that with Brad Pitt and Edg? Mr. Smith.

Yeah, that's what that is. 100% I could definitely see them in the crib on their miss name Mr. Smith shit 100%. 100% for sure. But we have fun shooting with Dale.

That shit really hurts for the internet that thinks that Dale is a fluke. To be clear, Dale is not same because a lot of people see saying,

oh, that you'll get shot. And in the video, well, I hope you, hopefully you watch it. He explains that, you know, you don't die from, it's not likely that you'll die

from one gunshot wound. You die from bleeding out from multiple gunshot wounds. So he's just teaching ways to kind of disarm the victim and give yourself a chance instead of just being a victim and just, you know, letting someone do anything to you. He's kind of just showing moves and tactics that if somebody's close enough to you, you can kind of disarm them and stuff like that. And I will say that a lot of the times when we had those guns in our hands and he was twisted

and it felt like something was about to break. Our hands were fucked up for a couple of days too. Yeah, our hands were fucked up for a few days after that. So the tactics are real. And there's a video online. right now, I think it was in Mexico or something. They were in a bar and a guy pulled a gun on somebody and the guy disarmed him with one of the moves and techniques that Dale.

The nose, the nose take down. Yeah. The number one one that I thought was the biggest, it was bullshit. I was like, come on, man. Like, he just touched some dude's nose and he went down. He did the same thing to me and I immediately went to the fetal position. It felt like your bone was going to your brain, for sure. So this video that's going around, I think the title is, y'all, oh, Dale, an apology.

Because in the video, the guy actually does a move that Dale taught us. And I believe this happened before Dale was even the internet sensation. I think that this video was like from a couple years ago. And he did the move, the hand under the nose and pushed him down and grabbed his hand and took the gun from him and killed the guy inside the bar. And everybody was looking at the video like, damn, that shit really worked. Not saying it really works, but. And Dale didn't invent these moves.

Like these are all been self-defense shit. He's just re-teaching when he was taught. Yeah. And that's where I think because I had it fucked up too. I was laughing with everyone else on the internet about the entire thing. Because Dale admittedly leans into the internet shit as well. Like he's going to make it funny or he's going to make it more over the top. Like his speaking voice isn't even that intro speaking voice.

Like he's definitely doing it. He's in character for sure. But he knows what he's doing. 100%. He's definitely military trained. He's been doing this for years. And yeah, man, if y'all think it's a joke, going down to Detroit and go fuck with Dale. Yeah.

Go fuck with Dale. Hit him up and go on the studio and learn some movies. and let me know how your thumbs feel after you leave there. Listen, man, that shit. That shit is real. Like, but he, like you were saying, he doesn't fully explain it in those short clips of, like, when he had said the point is to not get shot a lot.

That sounds fucking sick in a 15-second IG clip. Like, I just don't want to get shot at all. Yeah, you don't want to get shot. He's just trying to say, oh, if you end up in a situation where you are shot, this is what you should do. Yeah. I'm not saying that people can't run up and just shoot you. Yeah.

because you know these moves, but you get put in a situation where there's a gun to your head or a gun is in front of you, try to do something. He's teaching you some tactics to kind of disarm the perpetrator. What do you call him animal thugs? I love that term. I can't say that term. Why not? You can't say animal thugs?

I'm pretty sure Fox News created that term. And if a white face says those two words together. Yeah, no, I feel you. I love that term, though, because he's making the distinction that there are, you know, people that commit crimes and then there are animal thuders. that rob, rape and kill. And those are the type of people that you want to get off the streets.

But shout out to Dale. We had a great time. Watch the video if you haven't. Subscribe if you haven't. If not, fuck you. But yeah. Yeah, I like that pitch. And other messy news,

I'm sorry. I'm a little tired today, guys. Big Sean went on drink champs. I watched on the way here. Shout out to Norrie and EFM. Shout out to Nore. EFN. Big Sean, man.

We got to give him his flowers. in his ability to always be, and I say corny saying this, he's classy in every, every situation Big Sean ends up in, whether it's women problems, rap beefs, disagreements. He always looks like the most mature

motherfucker on planet Earth. Sean? Yes. He answered all that Kanye shit with nothing but facts, maturity, accountability, humbleness, grace. I was like, all right,

Sean should also teach a fucking artist development class. Well, I think for Sean it was different because he never really had any, any, you know, malice towards Kanye. He was very vocal about that. So I think it's hard to kind of, you know, you hear somebody say something about you. It's kind of hard to respond with venom and, you know, some type of, like, disdain for the person when you never really had that to begin with. So I think, you know, Sean's thing was more so.

And he's been, you know, for the last couple of years, he's been on that wave anyway of really not getting into no bullshit and not responding with, you know, back and forth bickering and shit like that. He's been on that. I don't know if it's him dating Jeney and her keeping his zen and his chakras aligned and all that other shit. Yeah, his chakras seemed the line. But yeah, he's been like that for a while, though. So I didn't expect him to go up to him like, yo, Kanye, fuck you and all that. No, I didn't expect it. I think the opposite, when you don't have an issue, when you really don't have a real issue with somebody or never said anything publicly.

bad about them and then they say some wild shit, I think the opposite. That's when I get really upset. Like, though, I never had no issue with you publicly. Like, we never did nothing in public. Why are you now doing that? Now, I'm really pissed. Yeah. Now, if I had said some wild shit publicly and they say something back, I mean,

I'm probably not going to get as mad because it's to be expected. Right. But, yeah, Sean, on top of that, and you owe me $6 million? See, I didn't watch it. So it's a lot of things that I didn't hear him talk about. He broke down kind of just their whole history and, and, his loyalty to a fault with good music and with Kanye and how I had to drop up a dime he would

go across the whole fucking world if with 12 hours notice anytime Kanye needed something even if it was just to be in the studio whether to write a whole verse write a line like he would just constantly go around never take any publishing because he knew like this is just a great opportunity for me I appreciate what Kanye does let me help him because he's helped me so much and then to realize that you're also

think you're battling with Universal on money that they owe you and then you find out that universal doesn't owe you money because they paid that money but they paid it to good music they didn't pay it to you. So good music's just been holding

$6 million of your shit he hired the order. He's like, I'm not pulling this shit out of my ass like right. This entire, the books have been audited. This is for real.

It's actually more than $6 million. But I got paid some of it already after I ordered it. So he still owed six. I've done all this shit for you. He broke down the whole blessing song too with Drake. Like him and Drake did that record

it was done and was going to mastering. He was just playing Kanye the album the day it went to mastering. Pre-order link was the next day. No, I need to be on that. Because he thinks he had, at that point, he's like, I still think Kanye had such a weird obsession with Drake at that point. That when he heard that, he was like, I have to be on it.

And even Drake was like, his record, it has three verses already. It's over three minutes. It's done. We have a video treatment. Like, of course I like Kanye. Why? He doesn't need to be on this record.

It's about to be like a seven-minute song now and it's a single. Like, what the fuck? Fucked up the whole mastering process for that. And he did that all off the strength because Kanye was his man's. saying Kanye wants to be on this even though I don't think it needs it. He's already on three songs of my album. But it's hard to tell Kanye though. Of course.

And like he just broke that entire shit down of good music. He's the only one that's ever put out five LPs on good music and which he didn't say but I said after Kanye said that shit, he kept good music relevant to the younger generation by far. Absolutely. So to do all of that

and then to get on publicly and say the worst thing you ever did in your career was sign Big Sean. Yeah, we What the fuck is wrong with you? Yeah, like, we felt that was weird anyway when we first heard Kanye say that. Like, I didn't understand why he said that while he went there. And it was something else he said in that interview that I was kind of like that was a little weird. But whatever.

But, yeah, Big Sean is, like, it's hard to, it's, big Sean is one of those people where you can just tell he's just not a, he doesn't give you the type of vibe where he's a bad spirited person. No. He doesn't give you that vibe. Like, he moves funny. He gives, he seems like he's loyal to his crew and the people that he's, he's, he's, he's rocking with. And it's just unfortunate that Kanye didn't feel the same about him. But I'm glad to hear that he handled it the way he did in response to what Kanye said, he didn't get too out of character. Defending himself with facts and was just like, I thought that shit was weird.

Like, that's just weird old shit to me. And then he said, and this is where Kanye, like, this is like that weird, sick Christian manipulator behavior to me. He then text after the drink championship shit aired. He texted Sean and Sean's mom who's also his manager. Now we begin to heal. Wait. Wait a minute.

I might have to use that. Can I get that off? Like, can I start talking shit about people? She'd on your girl and just be like, yo, now we begin to heal. Yeah, now we begin to heal. Because if you think about it like it's like, okay, that happened, but now let's move on. But it's just funny. because I'm not no no wait so wait no no this is hilarious so he texts big Sean and Big Sean's mom that before the episode aired no right after it aired when Sean and

the rest of the world saw that clip of him saying that he then text either that day or the next day now we begin to heal yo that is some funny it's crazy and it's creepy but it's also hilarious though now we begin to heal it's such a that's such a fucking selfish manipulated way to go about shit. And I know a lot of people like that and so do you that are just like, dog, you can't do everything publicly shit on somebody, then privately go, well, why don't we mend it? Yeah. Yeah, no.

24 hours after a half, it's like, what? Who the fuck do you think you are? Yeah, that's crazy, fan. Like, do you have any accountability in your brain at all? Yeah, that's, that's funny, but it's not. That's like those type of people that like, why did you make me do that? Yeah. Fan, shut up, you did it. That's almost like the people that like

rob from instill from people and like do armed robberies with like the Bible on the dashboard. Like you think that Bible is like protecting you. You running around doing all this wild shit and you got a Bible on your dashboard. No, those are the sick people that will rob your TV and then be like, y'all, I'll buy you a new one.

Yeah. Like, or you could have just not robbed my TV and then we're right in everything would be fine. Listen, man, shout out the big show, man. That's a classy way of handling things. I like that. No, it was good. And sometimes that's how you're supposed to handle things when you know you're not in the wrong.

You don't have to get, you know, too riled up. And, you know, the facts are always going to be the facts no matter what. And, you know, that will come out eventually. So shout out the big Sean. I'm going to watch that episode, though, because I heard it was really good. Yeah, I hope he gets his money back too. I'm sure you will. I'm sure you will.

He seems like he has the right people in his business. So I'm pretty sure he'll get all of that. I'm curious where this leaves the new regime of Def Jam and what good music will become. Has anybody here from Push It to you since the, announcement of the Drake Kanye show? No. How do we think Push-a-Tee is handling all of this? Because he was very adamant about his stance with Kanye

and, you know, that's his crew. And anytime Kanye pop, he popping off and he's riding. And now that the beef is over and it's mended, where do you think Push-a-T stands? I think when he spoke with us, however many years ago, that was, he was very adamant because we did ask him that question where we said, well, do you feel everyone at good music has rode for you the way you rode for you?

them. And he said, that's not really my responsibility. I can't expect everyone to react or be as loyal as I would be. So if they don't, I mean, that's not on me. I'm only responsible for how I feel I should move. If I feel I should be this loyal, then that's what it's going to be. I can't expect someone. And he was referring to Kanye. He's like, I can't expect Kanye to be me in so many situations. If I do, then that's, it's not going to work. Yeah, but listen, if you, if you have a beef with somebody, and I'm riding with you. And this, you know, I'm throwing shots. You know, fuck them.

That, ah, whatever. It's on. It's beef. Uh, whatever, whatever. And then you turn around and you make peace with the person that you were having an issue with that I was bombing on and I was ready to ride on. I have to look at you some type of way. Like, fam, I did all of that.

And now me and this person, you understand? I'm saying it's like, Drake and Pushcher are not cool. And I don't, I'm going to be honest. I don't think Drake and Pusher will ever be cool. I don't think Drake and Cony are cool. That part. Go ahead. But even for the optics of it, if I push, I'm still like.

Yeah, it's just a little, because it puts push in a bad position because it's like, okay, y'all squashed y'all thing. I did a show together. I'm pretty sure music is coming. You know, and now pushers on the outside of the party. Like, I don't, I know push it wasn't at the show. No. You know what I mean?

So it's kind of like. Push with his kid chilling. Yeah, but it just puts you in that position, you know, and that happens often. I mean, not in real beef per se. But that exact situation has happened to me where I had a friend that had an issue with somebody. And off the strength of my man's having an issue with you, I can't fuck with you now. And then him and that gentleman made up. And I still have an issue with that other guy to this day.

And the only issue was based off of you not fucking my man's. And now y'all two are cool. So are you willing to make peace with that situation? Or are you just like, no, I'm still not fucking with him? I made peace with my man's in the situation. I thought it was weird and I expressed that to him. And no, there's a line now. I can only go as far with that friend at this point

because I just know, I just know how he's going to move in that type of situation. But the other dude, I didn't particularly care to begin with. So it was like, I only have an issue with you because my friend doesn't. Now y'all are friends. But things were said during that time that I can't, as you always perfectly put it,

I can't unhear those things. So I still got an issue with that guy. But the issue is stemmed from nothing at all. Right. Like we never had a, yeah, I had nothing to do with it. Yeah. So I'm, you know, I have friends that, you know, they still communicate with people that I no longer rock with and that I have a real issue with. And I don't know how I feel about that.

Like, I'm going to be honest. Especially if you and this person got cool through me, especially if y'all met through me. Got you. And now me and this person, I don't rock with him at all. And you still hanging out with him. You still kicking it with him. You still. Yeah.

I got to look at you a little, a little weird. You know what I mean? Not saying you got to have a full out beef with this person, but you know me and this person are no longer, we're never speaking again. And you still continue to hang out with them and kick up them. It's like, look at you a little funny. Yeah.

And that's me. As push as you can't. Especially because that relationship is only there because of me. Like, I just look at, I look at a little funny. Like, again, I don't put too much into it, but it is a little funny. Looks a little weird. That happens much more than I think people realize of that mute.

Specifically more with women, though. Women always meet women through other women and fall out and then those women become best friends. It's very nasty. Ask, like, if you're bored one day and, like, you're just hanging out with some chicks or whatever, ask two girl best friends how they met. It's never like. So was another woman. It's never like, yo, we grew up together.

Yeah, no. We met through somebody else. Find two women that grew up together right now in their 30s. And I'll give you $100. Men are different in that regard. Like, men, I think, have more of their childhood friends around as adults than women do. That's probably a fact. I would say some.

I think men have way more childhood friends as adults than women have as adults. I think a lot of women meet women as they get older and they befriend them. But the childhood ones, very few of those left. But I think that's just the difference with male friendships and female friendships because men, I feel like with our friendship, the bigger picture and the bigger, the bigger things are more important. Women will look at small little details

of their friendships and that's how they fall out. Like, dudes only fall out over like really big shit. We'll get over some bullshit pretty quickly with our male friends as long as, you know, you still loyal, rocking with me. It's dependable I can call you at when shit is really fucked up. Little shit we ain't going to really give a fuck about.

What do women usually stop speaking about? Men. I'm sorry. Like as a female friend, what is something that you notice that you and your female friends probably always end up if you're not friends anymore? What is always usually the common factor? Well, women thrive off of communication. So if communication gets fucked up in a friendship, things and you start communicating with other people and not communicating your issues direct, that's how I've seen me personally, any friendships that I've lost, it's usually been over that. It's usually over they didn't get invited to a last minute dinner.

y'all make women seem like with a dude with a dude like we would get over there I'd be like I mean probably just didn't want me to do I didn't go I didn't go anyway so I'd never feel no type of way when I don't get invited to dinner to shit like that I was I didn't want to go anyway and I'm not saying men are right and women are wrong in that situation I'm saying women just pay attention to fucking detail and like they'll say okay they'll connect not being invited to dinner to I can never trust this person for the rest of my life and that's just how the woman brain works I'm not saying that's wrong because they could very well be right. Matter of fact, women are usually the ones to tell you when your guy friends aren't your friends.

People are like, no, it's not that deep. And I'm like, no, that's not your friend. But that's why I'm saying women friendships end so much quicker and they don't have their childhood friends around because they pay attention to those little-ass details. Yeah. Well, I'll have a friend that I, my best friend Alex, known since preschool.

We've been through mad shit, hailed each other, went back, loved each other, but we always knew the bigger picture of, yo, if I need somebody at 4 a.m. to drive me to the hospital, I could depend on him. And that's like what a male friendship is based off of. Now, women, on the other hand, are going to match up so many details

and end with, she'd never drive me to the hospital. Yeah. That's just how men and women bring. I love, I love asking women about my relationships and friendships. Because women, y'all see that shit so differently. Like I got home girls that I'd be like, yeah, no, I'm going there with my boy. She's like, oh, please, that's not your friend. And I'm like, well, damn, like, tell me more.

You assess this thing? Like, we're not cool. Like, no, y'all not. Y'all not friends. I've known him for nine years. I don't care. You're not friends. Yeah.

And honestly, it usually ends up. And then like, we're not cool anymore. And she'd be like, I told you. Like y'all, y'all shit was based off of some bullshit and y'all just was cool, but y'all not friends. And I'm like- It's the same way with men, though, because when there's been times I had a boyfriend that told me somebody I thought was my best friend.

And he was like, that ain't your friend. I'm telling you that ain't your friend. And I'm like, no, that's my bestie. Like, he's like, nah, that ain't your friend. And that shit. You do that when they're like talking to or dating a younger girl. And I don't mean like young, young. Like, you know, five year difference, four year difference.

Like I was talking to a girl Recently when she had Introduced me to her friend And I said there I said You better watch out for that bitch That is not your friend She's winking at you Like no no not like that

Oh okay I could just tell and how they met too Because I asked women that now Because I think it's funny When you find out how women met Just based off how they met The activities they do together The circles in which that girl

brings her into I'm like yo that's not your friend you're an accessory of when she needs a girl to come with her somewhere She needs a bad bitch She needs that And she's like, what do you think? No, no, no.

I mean, of course she does those things But like we have like real intimate talks And like it's like really my friend I'm like I bet give us some time Month past A major major fucking violation happened And she was like you were right You're right

In your 20s especially in like your early mid-20s You have those friends It's like, oh my God, we're cute, and we can take Instagram pictures together, and oh, we talk, and I'm dating this guy, and she's dating this guy, and we're having these conversations. And then it's like something real life happens. And it's like, oh, this bitch is an opportunist. And I am dead asses like a Gucci purse to her. Like, she just brings me around, like, when she needs that aesthetic. Yeah.

But even one thing I noticed about, one thing I noticed about women that y'all take very serious is if one of your home girls doesn't show up for like a birthday outing. Oh yeah, it's over. Like the relationship or posts on IG. The friendship might be over. Like if you have a birthday dinner and one of your girls can't make it, I don't think the relationship is ever the same after that. I think it depends on the girl. Like I've always noticed that.

I'm like, yo, what happened? She didn't come to the fifth birthday dinner. She can make that one? She can make the fifth dinner and then now you're not friends anymore. Like it's always some random shit like that. She bought the same bag. You've been eyeing. Like it's just like.

See, yeah, fit women like that. That shit is just crazy. I don't care if my home boy bought the same Jordans that I have. Like, give a fuck. Just don't wear when we're hanging out together. Like, well, even to Demaris's point on the smaller shit of like, chicks will be friends based off like,

oh, we're dating two guys that are friends. Or we like going to this spot. Or like, we have mutual friends here. And they're not really friends. That happens on a major level for like, you could be friends with somebody for a decade because y'all have a common goal or like.

And then when that common goal or like is, done, you realize your entire friendship was based off both of y'all liking this, this specific thing. Like, we think we're family, but when that ends, it's like, it's over. Oh, all right. Now, now what? Like, we were, we were just playing for the same team at the we weren't, you know, we were just playing for the Knicks. It's unfortunate, man. When you get traded, it doesn't matter anymore. We wasn't really friends. We was teammates. Yeah. Like, a lot of people in real life think they're friends, but they're just teammates. I mean, more importantly, as an adult, I think it's just weird when you just always have a different circle.

For sure. Like when I just look up and you're just hanging out with a bunch of new people all the time, it's like, that's just weird to me. It's like I should see some of the same faces. Yeah. As an adult, certain people you're just with just with life for life after a while. Yeah. And of course, there's nothing wrong with life is about meeting new people and new experiences

and new friendships. But you're talking about like the circle hopper. Like, yeah, that's a, that's a red flag, no matter the gender. Exactly. I think it's worse with women. When women do that? I think it's worse with men. I think it's way worse with men.

Really? And I think it's probably more common now. That's nasty. The circle hopper has a dude. Like you just, you're just going from dude to dude. Now that you put it like that, I just said,

getting a bunch of new men in your life is fucking sick. Yeah, it's sure shit men just can't do, man. You're right. It's like, men, we can't have more than like,

can, are men allowed to have like best friends? Of course, ball. The shit you won't allow men to do it's fucking insane. I think it's weird. Are we allowed to breathe?

No, no. I think. I think it's weird when the man, like, all right, if you, if a guy comes in here, right. I just said one of my, I said my best friend Alex's preschool. That's fine. But if Alex was to come in here and you introduce Alice, you almost my best friend, Alex, I'm going to look at you like, why you say? I probably wouldn't introduce him that way. That's what I'm saying.

I'm not saying he's not allowed to be your best friend, but to introduce him like, yo, this is my best friend. I'm looking at you like, yo. Nah, because you need to understand. Like, he's not like the rest of my friends. Like, this is my best friend. Like, respect his shit. Man can't say best friend. You said that with the male.

sauce on it. No, now that's my best friend. That's my best friend. Right, relax. Yeah, like, make care of do that. You can't aggressively tell me. Alex can't walk in here and Rory by your mom, this is my best friend. I'm going to be like, okay, like, that was weird, but all right. What's up, Alex?

You know what I'm saying? It's just weird to me. Like, I don't think men should be like, you know, it's my, don't introduce me as your best friend. That's all I'm saying. But even with that, like, I feel like you could even almost be perceived as a circle hopper in a certain business, though. Because, like, all right.

With a lot of my very- Explain that. Explain that. With a lot of my very, very, very close friends that I've known since childhood diapers, we don't talk or see each other as often as I do some of the people that I work around. Right. Because they got lives. They don't work in this business.

They got kids. They got wives. They got shit they're doing. Now, I'm in a different industry or a different situation in my life or a different point. So it may seem like I have people that are around me that are new or like, oh, this is a oh you hang with this person it ain't really like those are my friends it's just in the business I work and it you know helps to meet people that you actually fuck with and can do business with and be cool with that's hard to find so when you find that's like oh shit yeah I spent a year which

you cool like let's we can hang out outside of work type of stuff it may appear that I have new friends but it's like no I have the same ones they're just doing other shit right right So some, I have seen people look like they're doing that like industry circle hop. Like, why are you a man and hanging out with a new rapper every week? Yeah. That's nasty. But I think that, you know, like you said, I have friends that I don't speak to all the time often, but those are some of like my closest friends for sure. We grew up together.

But like you said, they just live a different lifestyle in a different zone. They have families, you know, things like that. but whenever we speak, we literally pick up right where we left off at. To me, those are the best relation. I don't, I don't want to feel like I have to speak to you every day or if I don't, it's a problem. Like, we're going through something. It's like, bro, no, I've just been in and out of town.

I'm working. At that point, we're dating. Yeah, like, it's like, no, fan. Everything is all good. Yeah, like, but. Tell me how your day is, bro. Yeah, I don't need to speak every day. Like, my mom, my mom yelled at me the other day because I said, I don't want to speak to her

every day. Well, she's allowed to say that. She was like, you don't want to speak to. I was like, every day, mom, no, I don't want to speak to you every day. I love you every day in my life. Me and my mom, we always at least have to do like a check in text every day. No, well, my mom sends, and I just found this out, which I don't know if any of y'all moms does this.

My mom is friends with, like, my friends, right? Like, I'm talking about, like, text friends. Oh, same. And she sends, like, my mom sends massive, like a mass prayer text every morning at, like, 6.45 a. Alex knew my Thanksgiving plans before I did. Yeah, it's like, it's like, mom. But I didn't notice.

like I spoke to one of my home boys he was like yeah man you know I speak to your moms all the time I'm like excuse me like why are you speaking to my mom all the time like what's up with you don't speak to me all the time yeah he's like nah he's like yo she knows she texts me a prayer every morning

and I'm like wait I thought my mom was sending me this prayer like I'm your son oh you thought it was in a school you was just on the mass text you was on the mass good morning text yeah that's your karma right there your karma's not so beautiful

yeah so I was like wait a minute so I asked my mom I'm like wait mom you're sending this text out to like everybody like all my friends she was like yeah Cheap-ass prayer. Everybody getting it. I'm like, oh, I'm thinking this is for your, I love you. Because then she'll send the prayer and then say, I love you son right after it.

Okay. Oh, so she's doing copy and paste. And then like, I love you. So she'll say I love your son to me. But everybody gets the prayer. And I didn't notice that I spoke to one of my home words. And he was like, yeah, man, you know, like your mom be sending me prayers. And I love waking up and seeing that.

And I'm like, wait. So she's sending this to like my homies. Damn. Kind of find out of my mom sending morning prayers to all of my friends. I had no idea about this. Like, no, I love it. Not the prayer being for everybody. For everybody.

I thought it was for me. Like, I started a table way. I'm like, I'm getting a support. You have a supportive family. Yeah, but come on, man.

Your sister posts our stuff every day. I love that. No, no, no. I love this support. Yeah. But I don't want to find out my mom is texting my homeboy.

It's a prayer. Yeah, but it's like, I thought it was for me. Like I thought it was a special prayer for me. It's from the scripture. Anyone can read it. No, you said, no, you said,

you don't want to talk to her any day. Remember? Yeah, word. Now she's talking other people where I know you've got problems. She can't make him. Like her second son. Yeah. You know,

when, oh my gosh. When mom say that. That's my son too. I'm like, no, it's not. It's not your child. Have to pay one of these bills. Exactly.

Tell them to pay your bills. If that's your fucking son, that ain't your son. You get a paternity test. Exactly. Yeah, man. But I love those type of relationships and not speaking to people all the time. But then when you speak.

Oh, yeah. You pick up right. Those are my favorite. It's all. My family's like that too. I don't like to. everybody every day. I can't do it. My anxiety won't let me do that. I'm sorry.

And I just, I feel like I'm dating someone if I talk to them every fucking day. Like, that's too much. I don't care who you are. Like texting all day with anybody. I feel like we're going to to get into the living together conversation. I just think, I don't know,

man. I think humans just need their own space, bro. I just. No, humans human, no, no, it's not. It's not that. Humans need to be away from their circle more. Living with someone is fine, but if I go to work in the morning

and I'm texting the person I live with all fucking day, then I get home, what are we going to talk about? You know everything that happened today. And then I'm on top of you. There's no break at all. Like people from the generation before us would literally

go to work and not see or speak to the people that they live with. Kids, family, parents. There's no way to, yeah. At all. You wouldn't talk to them at all. And then they would get home excited to see the people that they had not seen all fucking day. Yeah, tell me what happened was going on. So there's no in between. It's not even just relationships.

It's family shit too. Kids, everyone needs a break from each other to miss each other and be alone. So I feel like we had this talk before, but we'll have it again. Are you against your significant other husband, wife, whatever? Are you against them having their own place? No. You're not against it. Not a lot.

not even a little bit would you would you would you need to have access sure safety reasons safety reasons yeah okay you want to explain you can say safety you gonna put that word on I mean yeah safety

in case I need to get in there maybe they're passed out hurt maybe someone broke in oh oh like they're you know woman woman is alone okay and you're saying it as like maybe some like infidelity shit like now you can't have access to my space

no, the space would be so we could coexist and have our alone time when we need to. It's not a cheating thing. How do you feel about that? I want to hear out woman. How do you feel about that? I'm living it right now, currently. Oh, so you and your boyfriend are living together? No.

We live away from each other. So you'll never live together, is what you're saying? I didn't say never, but I've made it very clear to. We lived together for about, like, we lived together, but I moved out. Like every time I would move in, I would move back out. I need my own space. Like I have drawers there. I have a bunch of stuff there.

When we were living in the same city, I have like, that's my house. I have keys. I've accessed all of that stuff. But I needed, I never fully moved out. I need my own space. I need my own space. I can't do it. I don't know, man.

I don't know if that's a realistic thing. I moved to a whole other city because I need it. I need my own space. You move to a whole other. How much space do you need? I need a lot. See, that's another. 1500 miles.

Yeah. You move to another city. Yeah, I needed a lot of, I need a lot of space. Yo, no, man. I'm telling you, long-distance relationships, I look at them in a certain way. I think they can really work for certain people, like people that really like their space.

I think long-distance relationships can really work. But at the same time, I do, and have clown people that are in long-distance relationships. We're like, yeah, we've been together for two years, but I live in New York. He lives in L.A. I'm like, no, y'all have been together maybe six weeks, because that's the amount of time y'all have actually spent together.

It's not a year. Y'all are living in the vacation fantasy of, we only see each other for three days, so we're not going to argue, everyone's going to ignore anything bad that would happen because we only have a certain amount of time and you're just living in the infatuation fantasy world. But that can also work.

Like, that can be a right. I feel like as I've gotten older, long-distance relationship seems like they're easier to maintain. Oh my God. Well, you got FaceTime now, you got like this shit. And then you're busy in your personal life, your business life, your career. careers. And so it's like your time is occupied as an adult. Like, you know what I mean? You get busy and stuff like that. I feel like it's a little easier to deal with it. Then, you know, when you're an adult, you could book a flight and spend a day if it's only 24 hours you can spend together or 48 hours. You do that for a weekend and then go back to your respective cities. But what I will say is when you do that for a while and then you guys make the plans like a year or two in, which I've seen as well. All right, I'm going to move to your city. And then we're going to live together obviously because we've been together for this.

long. It's like fucking shock therapy. Like the moment you get in there, you've never, you don't know this person. You think, oh, I've been with them for two years. No, you don't really know them. You know the highs that y'all have had when you see each other because you like each other. When you live with somebody and you don't know them like that, thinking you know them because of the time, it's not going to work. Yeah, you don't know somebody until you live with them. Like if someone had a longest relationship and they want to move to that city, I suggest you'll still get separate apartments for at least a six months to a year. Because y'all are going to fucking lose your minds.

Because you're jumping into the fucking lava. Yeah, I think you definitely need to, before you get into it, like a real committed serious relationship with somebody, you should definitely spend some time living under the same roof. Because it's a whole different person. And I mean, obviously, the three of us are just the right people that everyone should listen to about relationships. Because we're all so successful at them. Oh, absolutely. I think I'll give the best advice on relationships.

same right i think i give the best advice oh yeah no sure i listen i already told everybody don't listen to me we should just listen to summer in london that's what i think no we should not yeah can summer in london leave us alone man uh justice gonna take you off all the VIP list listen you know no i love summer i have no opinion on london good or bad and i don't know him just some shit just gotta have you private man like I feel like I'm co-parenting with them and I'm not even asking I don't even follow them it just ends up in my phone somehow

yes it's again man I you know I I like I privacy is a myth I always say that there's no such thing as privacy anymore and then when you try to be private you look at it sneaky or weird or whatever but um it's just unfortunate when you have uh you know children involved and And that to me is where it's just like there has to be some sort of, you know, privacy to the utmost when the kids are involved. If it's just dating and we broke up and that's, that's fine. If you want to put that out there. But when the kids are involved, that's when I look at it, like somebody needs to step in and, you know, really kind of help and quarterback the situation because it's a child involved. And I think that, you know, whenever you put your child out there on the Internet for people to voice their opinions and all of that,

it just gets really weird for me. I just, it's cringe worthy for me. I don't, I don't like it. And, you know, her people do irrational things when they're hurt. So I can understand that. I get it, man, but it's, the kid thing. Yeah, I just can't, you know, it's just, I just, I just, I just wish that people would, would, would keep certain things in house and certain things deal with.

Like, you don't have to upload shit to the internet for people to, you know, I understand you want people to be aware and, you know, things like, like that and you know for whatever reason maybe you feel like you know you need to release that to get that off of you and it's it's bothering you whatever but you have to have somebody more close-knit in your circle that I think you can share those things with and not take things to the internet and social media I think that's just I never subscribed to that like I hate seeing shit like that I don't like it yeah like I don't explain your parents a situation to us for what yeah like I just I don't like it I just don't like it and granted both of them in the

public eye they're artists Sure. And, you know, that summer has given us all of the content on the album and spoken about it and things like that. But, you know, that's art. You know, you want to put it that way. That's art. Okay, cool. That's for, you know, the public.

But things like, you know, the real intimate things, where your baby sleeping text messages between you and your child's father. Possible injuries. Yeah, possible injuries to the baby or whatever, you know, it's, that does not need. I should never know about that. And that's why I feel like it's your responsibility. to get someone on your team who you trust and you believe in

so that when they're saying yo, give me your fucking phone, you whaling. Like, you trust them enough to listen to them. Like, I feel like it's your responsibility so that when you're out of your mind and you're wrapped up in your emotions,

you can have someone that's like, nah, you wilding, give me your phone. But I don't see that to me, that because I thought about that as well, but it doesn't matter because once I leave you, because I have to leave you, I can't be connected to your hip 24 hours. And you have that phone in your hand.

once you press upload it's out there so it's like then i'll see it and then now i have to do damage control come back to your house yo you tripping give me your phone delete your instagram delete but it's already out there and and that's why i you know again how people deal with things is how they deal with things but i just i don't agree with putting certain things out there for public opinion because everything doesn't need the opinion from the public and that's just my you know we all know london ain't so she was last to that party i mean i don't really care of me any shit it's just That's just none of my, unless it's, it's none of our business. A song, I don't, we don't, we don't.

Yeah, when you put it in, in the art, you know, it's like, okay, like, because we can all relate. We all have either been through a situation like that, or we know somebody that has been through a situation like that. So it's like, okay, we understand and we recognize it. But for us to actually, you know, see text messages and pictures and things like that, I just don't, I don't like that. And I will never like shit like that. I think certain things, I think it's beauty and privacy.

And I think that you need that. And I think that it also helps. because it is a private situation. And if y'all could talk private and, you know, figure out what you're doing with your child, how you're raising them and things like that. In private, I think it's more effective than, you know,

putting things out in the public and letting people and have their opinion. Like, I just think it's better to handle that type of shit in private. I think it's more effective. I think you get better communication, better conversations in private than you do on the shade room

in the shade room comments. Parents don't need to explain anything but to their own kids their own co-parent or unfortunately the court. See, only time you should explain anything that's to do with a child. Yeah, definitely.

They don't need to explain shit to us. Yeah, because the internet is just, people are sitting online waiting to laugh at your issues, waiting to laugh at your problems, waiting to be like, oh, like you said,

oh, we knew he wasn't shit. Like, you know only one that didn't know, like that, she don't need to hear that. But once you put that type of shit out there, that's what's going to happen. That's what's going to happen. You know what I mean? So it's just keep things in house, man.

And prayers to both of them. Prays to summer. Prays to London. Prays to the baby. And hopefully, because again, it's a black. Praise to us because we're tired of hearing that shit. Yeah. And then it's again, it's a beautiful child involved.

You know, it's a black family. And I always want to see black families do good and be in good spaces with each other and grow up the right way. But it's just I don't think that should be on the internet. I shouldn't be able to open my phone and know what's going on with your child and your child's father. No. Unless it's positive happy thing. that you want to share with the world

because it makes you feel so good. But, oh, let's stay in messy world. First of all, this made me feel good that I had no idea that Justine Sky and Givion were a couple. It just made me feel good that I stay out of everyone's personal lives and who they're dating.

When that came out, I was like, I had no idea that they were even together. Yeah, they were together for a while, though. I was not aware. I liked both of their music, still had no idea. So she got on, I was at her, I just saw wind down Wednesday or talk about my ex-cheating Wednesday, whatever the name of the series was. She got on there and started explaining out she found the old phone that was still connected to the I-Cloud.

Back to that eye cloud. See? How old is Givion? How old is Givion? Yeah. He sounds about 53. No, you're under that. 26?

I'll double that. 26. Here's the thing though. I feel like they'll say, all right, he's young. I feel like the younger kids would know about technology and cheating better than I would. Like if I left the old phone and didn't realize it was connected to the iCloud or like left my MacBook somewhere not realizing that even if I'm not in the room, it's still connected to my

I feel like I should get the yeah, well he wouldn't know. Because I'm just not the technology guy the way the younger kids are. That's where I'm kind of looking to give you on like though. How you not? You're 26. You grew up in this this world. And do we expect a 26 year old to be like faithful? Realistically. That's a wild question. Realistically. Yes. I think there's 26 year olds that have been faithful. By choice. Or they just not lit. Give you on his lit. Give you on his lit. He's a he's a 26 year old R&B crooning star. Crooning. I mean, he's a crooner. He has. He has a, he has. He has. He has a lot. He has. He has. He

He has a, he has voice like, what they go? Velvet. Is that what they say? Velvet with peanut butter. Yeah, he has a velvet peanut butter voice. Like, I mean, I mean, just, if he starts singing, women are going to like him. For sure. He's 26. Well, he committed to what most would say is a very lit young woman.

Okay. She's lit as well. She is lit. She goes on vacations with all the chicks that end up with Lori Harvey. And I don't think, I don't think. Would we be? Y'all remember that vacation? Yes, yes, I do.

Classic vacation, legendary. But do we think that it was them six in future. That was a sick vacation. Oh, no, there was some other dudes there. We just didn't get those photos. There was some other guys there for sure. Give y'all might have been there. But do we expect, realistically, for a 26-year-old

R&B singer who is new to this fame and clearly very hurt human being? Yeah, like, do we expect this man to be? be faithful and just have one woman that he's dating. You know what's funny, which I have to give Justine some like real mature credit on it? She was kind of saying that, but not saying it. Because she was like, yo, I went through his DMs and shit and like, I would have said something right away, but I was still more in shock of like how thirsty and like nasty he looked in the DMs, like begging chicks to ask him how his day was and you don't care about him.

She was like, I was like, this is just like, who am I even with right now? Which she didn't say it, but in my head, now I interpret it was she was like, I'm more disappointed at what he was saying. I understand that. I understand. I was like, I, I get what you're saying. Now that I understand. Because sometimes you can disappoint your significant other like, damn, I know you lit. I know his girls on you.

I know those girls that, but you look crazy. And then it's certain ones that you shouldn't even be entertaining. That's the thing, like that men don't understand a lot of the times with cheating. And like, because women know when they, when they do this lit. And he's getting a lot of attention from other women. But they don't expect you, because I hear women say all the time, like, you know, if my man was cheating on me with Rihanna, I wouldn't even be mad. Because there's a certain women.

You just like, are you not? Yeah, like, come on. Like, are you not going to, like, date Rihanna if she comes at you? Of course you are. But it's the women that other women know is like trash. Like, you shouldn't even be giving this woman no energy. But that's men, though, because you could be lit. You could have a very lit significant other.

And just as men, that's where the lit shit doesn't matter to men and matters to women. We'll fuck a girl because we want to, not because she's lit. Doesn't work the other way around. So, yeah, you could have. Oh, no, women. I'm not saying this is right. I'm just trying to explain how a lot of men are. Could be the fucking most lit guy on earth, be dating Rihanna.

I'm sure Rihanna's been cheating. But with a chick that was a bum. Absolutely. just some bum chick that looked a right and was available to fuck at that moment so yeah you're saying logic but that's not how the world works I mean I would just I look at anybody

I'm sure it's happening yeah like if we wake up tomorrow and Rocky is found to be cheating or Rihanna I will come on this point and I love Rocky I will come on here and kill him like what are you doing you don't know how he's being treated at home right there stop what y'all gotta stop that man fucking bum bitches no oh no we never gonna stop that too Oh, come on.

That'll never stop. Oh, we love a good bum. Oh, we love a good bum bitch. Men love a good bum bitch. Let me tell you. Bum bitch is got the best pussy. Yeah, yeah. Let me be the first to tell you.

Bum bitch. Ooh. Men love a good bum bitch. But. Build your confidence up. Yeah, but how is it that a bum chick will build your confidence? While live on one more. Yo, men's brains are fucking disgusting.

We're stupid. We're the dumbest things on earth. Absolutely. I know that. But if I'm dating Rihanna and she's in love and she's professing her love to me she's holding my hand in public. Do you know Rihanna? Do I know Rihanna?

I'm not personally, but I've hung out with her a few times. He's toasted. Yeah. He's, I mean, we're not like besties. But I'm just saying, like, if I'm dating Rihanna, I'm not cheating on Rihanna. Like, if she's, like, publicly calling me her man. You don't know that. I'm telling you.

What if Rihanna is verbally abusive? You don't know. What if it's a terrible home? I'm not saying that's the case right now. Curse me out. Have some more self-respect. Please. Curse me out.

You fucking group. Curse me out. What's the worst that's going to happen? I'm like, okay, yeah. I wasn't shit. Yeah, cool. All right. All right, wait.

What's the problem? I don't think it's far-fetched at all that in 2022, you will end up dating a very famous woman that all men desire. I can see that. I can see that happening. That would not shock me at all. And I want to see what happens when that woman makes his relationship a living fucking hell. And if Maul doesn't want to go fuck another girl.

Can't wait. Wait. Say that again? Can't wait. I think, I think, I'm really believe this. I think there is a high probability that this year or this coming year or the one following that you end up in a relationship. You see that for me? With a famous woman. I do see it.

Yes. That all men desire and that would say the same thing. Like, nah, if I was with her, it wouldn't even matter. Like, she could do whatever to me. Wait until she makes your relationship a living hell. And I want to go see if you won't want to go fucking that girl. But now you change it. If you won't go out and try to seek some type of peace

If your relationship is a living hell, you shouldn't even be in it. You should get out of it, first of all. But I'm just saying if your relationship is so easy to say, right? I mean, yeah, if you're in a living hell, you walk away from it. Okay. It is that easy.

People, let's check in next year. Listen, people make shit more difficult than it is. I hope you get that girl that he keeps telling us he want. I hope you get her. But why? Which one is that? I hope you get her. I hope you get her.

But listen, listen, what I'm saying is this. So we can see. If your relationship is a living hell, no matter who you are, you shouldn't be in a relationship that's a living hell. You should get out of that relationship. So y'all saying that it's like, I wouldn't, I don't care who it is. I wouldn't be in a relationship if it's a living hell. Now, if it's a happy. You acting like living hell happens just one day.

It goes from the greatest thing ever and then, whoa, I'm in hell. Like, no, it takes like a year and it slowly, slowly goes. And you don't even realize it until you finally are in it. But that's what the living part comes in. It means like it's an everyday thing. You're living. Yeah, that's when you go fuck another girl. No.

But what I'm saying is, or you just get out of that relationship. You don't have to stay in a relationship that's a living hell. I agree. Are they going to be ups and downs? Absolutely. I agree. But if it's like a constant like I'm not happy, I'm not myself anymore, that is not healthy. You don't need to be.

There are millions of people out here. Like you can go find somebody else that makes you happy. I don't care who it is. Who the girl is? If you're not happy and the relationship is crazy and wild and it's fucked up, get out of that. Either way, me and Smith are going to give you all that classic. I was about to say something. I'm not going to see.

To toxic people together. Be careful what you wish for, bro. I'm going to say all the right things, knowing that it's going to end up his lyrics. Exactly. And then now you're how. I'm going to pre-write our arguments. Listen, man.

Just to give her little bars. You're nasty. No, I just love music that much. I'm that dedicated to R&B. Wow, dedicated to the art. Yes. Suffering for the art. That's all it is.

That's like when Picasso took his ear off or that other guy that took whatever that guy did. Van Gogh. Van Gog. I'm like Van Gog for R&B. Anyways. Justine Sky I hope you have healed

and are healing Givion he nasty with it He, yo he lives his rhymes though He was telling her He flipped that shit on her completely What did you say? So he she had the phone

And she was looking in real time Of a chick pulling up To his crib And she said She said hey my friend just saw you walk in your house With another girl Wait Knowing she's just looking at the phone

She made up the friend thing she spun him like that so she can see he doesn't reply to her but she can still see in real time him texting all his friends like you she called me like what the fuck

his friends was like all right we gotta get the lie together like all that type of shit she's reading all of this and by the way she said she then said oh yeah no it was bad it was a bad way to get caught man

I shouldn't say this but I felt forgiving on when she was saying I was like ooh that's painful oh my god which sounds like some men ain't shit I feel for Justine as well but then she was like

and then I felt bad because his friends like I've been around for 14 she's seeing the homie scramble in real time he was scrambling had to be fucking screaming he was scrambled with eggs

oh my god that's crazy and she did such a woman thing justine and that she said you know it kind of hurt because like I've been around for 14 months like living with him and all his friends

and like I see his friends put a lot together man I'm like Justin those are not your friends yeah they loyalty is not with you because you are with their friend and vice versa Your friends ain't Givion's friends

Yeah, that's a fact That's a fact Damn, seeing the scramble And the audible So then does a scramble She was in the huddle Does she knew to play That's crazy

She knew the size She knew to play Oh man Justine Belichick is crazy Yo, that's rough I didn't know it went down like that So he doesn't reply to her Like some time passes

And he gets on the like Yo who's your fucking friend Like she ain't shit she's lying to you like your friend just caused you your relationship I'm done with this shit he was trying to die with the lie

he was trying to die with the lie he made it all her fault I respected though but knowing that she was in the huddle makes you look Oh he's a different piece of shit now listen to his lyrics just because he just because he softly says

he's just as bad as future if you really get into his lyrics he might be worse but it's different now because Justine is actually she was seeing it she was seeing the rhymes And now he's trying to lie on top of her seeing it. It's like, yo, you are a different piece of shit.

And how you, he broke up with her. You have to. That's the only way out of that one? Yeah. Because regardless, she will never trust you again. Because she saw you scramble. No, no, no. I'm saying in that to try to flip it on her, he was saying, yo, your friend is a liar.

He was trying to get ahead of it. He's still thinking that a friend saw. He don't know that she's seeing everything. Yeah, of course. Saying like, your friend just caused you your relationship. Yeah, throw it on a friend. He's a sick dude. Justine's imaginary friend

calls through the relationship. Oh my, I didn't know it went down like that. That's a bad way to go out. At that point, you just got to be like, yo, you know what? Yeah, I ain't sure. No, there's no final conversation on that one. It's just over at that point.

There is one way out of it, though. Mental health. Absolutely. You got to say my dad didn't hug me enough. He wasn't there. Once you go there, you're safe. Because it's like what you're going to leave. me for my mental health? Yes. Yes. Okay. By the way, this is going to sound crazy.

That's the first thing I'll leave you. As someone that's a big, no, someone that's a big advocate of mental health and let's normalize mental health. Let's also normalize protecting your own motherfucking self from mentally unstable people. Yeah. Go get that shit figured out. I'm not going down with you. Like, I can respect that you have mental health problems right now. You need to work through them. I really hope you do. Yeah. I'm just not sitting here. Why you do it? Being the expense of it. Yeah. Like you're fucking crazy. Yeah. Go get help. I'm going this way. Normalized leaving mentally unstable people.

No, if you're really mentally unstable. But Givion would have been lying. Like, he would have just had to do it. He would have said it well. Yeah, he just had to do it. Like, yo, listen, man, my dad wasn't around enough. He didn't teach me how to love a woman correctly. Justine's interlude on the next project.

You know he's going down that round. Yeah. They should do it together. Why not? Listen, you know I was cheating, nice shit. Let's just do it. That's kind of fire. Like, if we really date it and people know how it ended and then we do like a song about it,

because it's not like we're going to be we don't have to be enemies we're not together no more we understand that part but why would I contribute to you getting more stream so you could get more money so you can get more bitches no we're not together no more

so wait your exes can't get more bitches you want to be the last bitchs you mad selfish yeah like you want to be the last one after you break up but you can get bitches but you ain't going to get it off my name no

no but we help in each other no it's well no he did that you got mad yeah he was lit he had those what you mean I don't need

I don't need more. You see my eye cloud. They see how I get it up. The hose is in the cloud. You know what it is? The hose is in the cloud. Real talk. I'm just saying that it would be kind of fire because it's like real art.

Yeah. Y'all know that we really went through this. You know what I'm saying? It's kind of like, y'all know we really went through this. We're not enemies. We don't hate each other. We're not together. But she hates him.

I think she hates it. That's why. Oh, she's there with it right now. Oh, but it's still fresh. The wound is fresh. The wound is still bleeding. But just, Justin is also like a cool Brooklyn chick. So she's not going to go off the rails screaming into her IG live.

She just explained in a very calm manner what happened. She didn't look bitter. She didn't look sad. She was just like, yo, this was the craziest should I've ever seen. I have a theory about that. Whenever women take it like that, when they catch that man cheating. Here we go.

You always the most hurt man. No. Bro, I'm just, you thought you think she was cheating to. Exactly. Oh, God. But this is the thing, though. Y'all look at me like I'm crazy. If she pop up with a new nigger in two,

weeks holding hands walking out of fucking crustaceans. Don't tell me that this is some niggins she just met three days ago. Well, women do stuff like that though. But now they shit is here. Now they with me. I'm the crazy nigga before. Y'all saying, oh, y'all think that every. But what if she meets, what if she today meets a dude that's cool?

She still. And for three weeks. The wound is still fresh. You're supposed to still be fresh. That's the other dude's responsibility to realize. Can we just be honest, man? This is a hurt girl fresh out of a relationship. Can we just be honest?

women, Justine Skye's beautiful. Very beautiful woman. Beautiful. Talented and beautiful. She's probably one of the most beautiful women ever. Let's just be honest. She'd already know who the next nigga is, man. She'd know who the next up is.

It's like basketball. If I blow my ankle out right now, the next man up. Somebody got to step up. Not saying she's going to have sex with him. Not saying she's going to be physical with the dude. I want to know who let Julian in here. Not saying she's going to be physical. Not saying she's going to have sex with this dude right.

away. But she kind of sort of has a guy in her life that she knows if she was single. She's a Brooklyn chick. There's not a Brooklyn chick on earth that don't have another guy. I'm not saying to fuck, but just got another. Yeah, they know. Women, y'all just know who it's like, y'all know the guy that likes you, but he's being respectful because you have a relationship. I've never met a Brooklyn chick with a dry phone. I don't care what she looks like. Yeah, like, we just got to have them real conversations. Like, can I go to your next therapy session? Y'all be thinking I'm crazy. I'm telling me this is a real talk. This is a second. Because a lot of the themes that you say they tend to repeat themselves and that means that it's coming from a deeper

place. And I want to help you find that place. Nah, it ain't even, you know what it is? The truth don't never change. You see what I'm saying? You only got to tell the truth one time. It ain't going the truth never, when you lie, you got to tell a new lie, tell a new lie. No, the truth is if a woman is beautiful, she's lit, she has, she has, she has dudes that are trying to get her attention all the time. Of course. They know she has a relationship, so they don't go but so far. They still go so Some, well, some dude, those are dudes that are just like, those are corny nits. But some dudes like, yo, no, she got a man and all that. But when she break up, when she's single, she know who the first dude is that if she felt

like she wants to go to dinner or she wants to go to lunch or something like that, or she's just going to have a little text relationship with when y'all know who that one guy is. It's the one that even when you're in a relationship, you send a few extra LOLs to. Nothing disrespectful. Yeah. But you, you know, throw a little more response. Just these guys are going to be okay in the dating the point. apartment. Let's just say, let me put it like that.

I texted Raven last night. I say, when's the next time you're going to be with Justine? See, look at the emotional orange over here. He ready. He had the scores table ready to sub in. And y'all trying to tell me Justine on got one guy on her phone. I'm on the slip now.

Yeah. He's taking his warm-ups off. He had the scores table. Yeah. With his I-1-kney. You mean to tell me you don't think it's another. Sprite, too. You don't think it's another dude that's a fresh legs. Yeah. Like, come more. This is Justine Scott. She's beautiful, talented, gorgeous. Like, there are other men that are way, there was other men that were praying that

gave you all got caught shooting. It was probably another man that gave her the eye cloud password. That's what I'm about to say. It's a nigga that told her like, yo, you know this nigga fucking with other bitches, right? Because dirty Mac is a real thing. And that's where dirty Mac stems from. In order for it to be dirty Macing, you got to have a Mac. You can't have dirty Mac. You can't have dirty Mac without the Mac. So the Mac is the new nigga in the phone that she's going to end up. Someone just, somebody's dirty. But what I'm saying is beautiful women like, like, not even just beautiful. All women have other men that if they weren't in a relationship, they know they can call that man.

Completely. The guy will take them out. I won't disagree with that at all. That's all I'm saying. So it's not, I'm not hurt. And you've met him. I'm just telling you what I see. If Justine Scott, Justice Scott has no problem getting another boyfriend.

I don't think anyone's arguing that. I don't think she would argue that. I don't think Yivion would argue that. So what I'm saying is, do you think that guy is not already in the phone? I mean? He's in there. He's in there. He's fighting for his life and him sex messages, man.

The fuck are y'all talking about. He's been texting. He had the florist right now. How many flowers got to him? Exactly. He's been texting up for 14 months on the day. Like, yo, listen, how, you know, giving her to spiritual shit. He's going mental route too.

Yo, just checking on your mental. Yeah, that's all. He's in there. That's all. It's not like I'm not jaded. I'm just being honest. Beautiful women always have the next guy up. All women.

All women, yes. All women have. All women have they have. Women have no problem. If they want to date a man, it had come off as odd like if a beautiful one like Justine Scott text you're like hey are you free tomorrow niggas will start stuttering in the text like

Stuttering into Texas You know it always lands I can be like you know what I can be You know niggas go to that Pass some self-respect Yeah I can't make something up Look busy at least A nigga my day could be

I can move it around Let me see if I can move it around No no no no you got to say let me see if I can move it around If Justin Scott I know she's fresh off a breakup Would Givian and she would text me like Yeah hey Ma'all Are you free tomorrow for lunch? I am free.

Nah, you got to push the Thursday. We got to record, Maul. I am free. We can record from the lunch. Call, bring all this shit to the restaurant, my nigga. We can record right there. Are you kidding me? Like, that's just being honest, like beautiful,

especially women in general, yes, but a beautiful, talented woman that's in the public eye, she has these niggas is in their text message and they damn fighting for their life. This is our invite for Justine to come on the show. I don't want to talk about messy shit with Givian Law. I actually think she's a very talented musician.

and I would love to talk to her. So this is the invite here. Platonic from both Maul and I. It ain't platonic for me. But now that we know that you don't have a boyfriend, you're more than welcome to come on the show. Joking, I'm joking. I'm pretty sure she has great music.

That's not keep it all. I'm tired. I'm not editing this entire episode. I'm totally joking. This was all funning games. But some of those memes and Twitter jokes, which I'm sure Justine is a smart girl. She knew when she told that story, the internet.

that podcasting, the world was going to run with it and make some jokes. They broke down every Givion lyric you could find and was like, sis, all the signs were there. Because they were. I fucking cannot. But, I mean, that's what we talked about with JD in the episode that's coming out. Like, sometimes you got a lot of your girl about lyrics you write. Like, no, that's just, I was doing it from the perspective of like this character from the song. It's like, no, that was you.

That was you hand in hand at the Beverly Center. J.D. like, no, I was driving by the Beverly Center that day. I was like, yeah, I bet you were here. I'm sure. I was driving by. To park. Oh, man. To get out hand in the air. She was in the front seat.

Say, yeah, can we pull over? I got to get something. Exactly. What else was going on? We had some new music come out that, uh. I heard you guys listening to Roddy Rich when we were on the plane. Roddy Rich. I've been on record saying how much I love Roddy and how talented I think he is and, you know,

all of these things. You're about to kill them? No, not, not kill them. I'm disappointed in the project, though. Absolutely. I'm disappointed, especially coming off the late at night single. I expected the album to be better than I think it is. I didn't enjoy it as much as I would hope to.

But my stance doesn't change on Rottie. As far as his talent, the album just didn't resonate with me as much as I thought it would. It's a couple songs on there that I can go back to, listen to has replay value. But overall, the project to me was, was disappointing. Like, I wasn't really, um, it's not what I thought it would be.

And I was, I was really looking forward to this project. But, but still, my, my opinion on Roddy still stands. Super talented. Um, I think that he may need to, which I always think is a good idea anyway. I think that when you lock in with a producer and kind of like keep the focus, like, I think it's better to lock in on a project with, uh, with a producer.

and keep the sound and the vision consistent and things like that instead of just getting pieces from all over and trying to put it together it doesn't, to me, it's hard to put out a really good album like that when you just grabbing production.

It felt like he did that on this. Yeah, he was grabbing a lot of production. Yeah, but I still think he's super talented. I'm still a fan. But yeah, the project was just, it was a little disappointed for me. I wasn't really feeling it like that like I thought I would.

Yeah, I mean, 18 tracks, 50 minutes. is a weird ratio. I feel like some of the songs that I did really enjoy ended up being like quick snippets that he never really got into his bag on the records that I think would have separated it to not make it feel like a bunch of random different production. And then some of the more typical

2021 style drums and flows were full records. And then all the other stuff, which I wanted him to experiment, and outside of just the tie and Alex Ozzy record, which is like 20, seconds. Yeah, that should have been a real record. Oh yeah, that should that should have been, I hope they still do extend that and make it a real song. But even some of the other records that are like

a minute, minute 10, I felt like if he really got into them and made them songs, it would have felt more like an album instead of let's make the new current drums and flow the full records. That was just my critique on it. Because 18, 18 tracks from 50 minutes is just weird. But I mean, I still fuck a Roddy. Oh yeah, no. That my and there's joints on there like, like don't get a No, yeah, it's a couple of records on there that I like as well. But overall, the project to me was just, it wasn't what I expected. That's all. But again, he's younger.

You'd have to ask his real demo. That could be exactly what they wanted. No, for sure. I'm only speaking for me. This is only just my opinion on what I'm listening to. I did like A Buggy's project before Ava, though. I didn't know it came out. I listened to that over the weekend.

Seven songs, 22 minutes, real short. I fuck with it. Right to it, but I like the project sounds good. Shout out the eight boge. Boldie James and Alchemist, Super Tecmo Bow, is really, really good. And who is the guy I was asking you about? Ice Cold Bishop. Yeah.

On Hot Water Tank. He's from Detroit. He fucking smoked that record. Yeah. He's one of the young cats out of the Midwest that I think everybody is favored it right now. He's dead. Yeah. He smoked that verse.

It's another one. What's the other, what's the other, the other, the other dude from Detroit's name? Damn, I'm terrible with names. Like super popular or? I don't want to disrespect him and say he's not super popular, but. We're not talking about like Doug popular or. No, no, no, no. I don't think he's that yet.

But it was another guy. I'll remember his name and we'll go back to. But yeah, shout out to Alchemist. Shout out to Boldie. Another dope project. Alchemist has had a hell of a year. For sure. He's going, I saw it now.

The same day, him, action, Boldie, and I think one other acts are all going on tour, which I thought was cool because I was kind of like what we had talked about on the show where like some of these artists with similar sounds and, you know, fan bases that they can join together should be touring together. Absolutely. And I know they were already planning that before we said it, but it was just cool to see what it was. Yeah, Alcummis, he definitely tweeted, don't do those year in wrap-up list just yet. I saw that. Action Bronson, Earl Sweatshirt. Earl Sweatshirt has an album coming. Sick.

Yep, 2022. He released the song 2010 and Tabula Rasa. Yeah, I'm excited for it. Excited to hear Earl back out there. Yeah, he played us some stuff. Al played us some stuff. Gurus played me some stuff. Yeah, the Earl stuff sounds really good.

Yeah, no. I'm really excited for it. It did. So, but should anything else come out? Over that, we were so busy with the, Atlanta shit that I didn't get to do my full deep dive I usually do

But other than that What's everyone's Christmas plans? I know we have one more episode before then Yeah, we have one more episode before Christmas And then we'll be going Until after the new year We'll be putting out some stuff Though while we're going

For sure And just go dark It'll be some stuff that we'll be dropping Christmas plans Just be with the family I want to go away I want to take a trip for the new year I want to bring in the New Year

Somewhere Outside of New York City I don't know where yet. No, not That's funny. Not Jersey. I don't know yet. I'm thinking the Bahamas.

I'm thinking Puerto Rico maybe, something like that. Yeah. No, I think it might be on the same time as you. So whatever, if you decide between Bahamas or Puerto Rico, tell me so I can go to the other island. That is weird, right? Bringing in the New Year of the same island as Rory.

That's just weird. That's nasty behavior. We can't do that. But, yeah, other than that, Christmas. with the family, man. That's about it. No real plans. You know, just, it's for the kids now.

Watch the nieces and nephew open gifts. Yeah. And things like that. But other than that, just chilling. Enjoying some downtime. Trying to stay corona-free. This Omari-on variant is a... I really don't even know the name of the real variant.

Is it Omicron? Omicron. Omicron? Okay. I don't want to keep saying, Omarion. It's the Q's. But Omicron. The Q's gave us the new variant.

Yeah. People are getting sick. I think that people getting sick, though, some people really just don't are very unsanitary. Like, I've noticed that. You're like moving around. Like when you put their vaginas on stages. Well, that too.

We appreciate, you know. Yes, that too. But yeah. You just watch how people move. People are very unsanitary, man. For sure. People are very, very unsanitary. And that's how somebody like me with my OCD ass will get sick

because being around unsanitary people, they just coughing and sneezing and grabbing doorknobs and, you know, shit like that. It's just like, you know, like I get in the Uber and all the windows are rolled up. I'm looking at the driver. Like, you just in here like. Hot boxing. Yeah, with just hot boxing the Omicron.

Yo, I hate, and I know it's winter, but I'll crack the window when I get in there. Look at me. Like, I'm crazy. Like, you got to. I don't understand how you're ever in the car. I don't care how cold it is outside and the windows are not cracked. Even if the heat is on. Crack the window.

Yeah. Crack the window. Keep it comfortable in here. But yeah, stay safe, man, because people are getting sick. A few of my homewoods have been sick. They said it wasn't too bad. They just lost their. their sense of taste and smell

but other than that they're fine but yeah people are getting sick so be careful out there during the holidays for sure. Yeah Tamara's how you celebrate Nabid Dod as Eddn would put it You're going back As Edin would put it

Oh my God I am going to My parents' house And cooking You're cooking D? Yeah I always cook for the holidays at my parents' house You look like you be in there burning.

You'd be motherfucking throwing down in that kitchen. I do. I do. You put the chicken in the seasoning in the plastic bag and shake the bag. Are you one of those type of cooks? Yo, what? Who, like, I'm confused. Wait. How else would you season?

Well, you know the boozy type. You lay the flour out in the bowl and put the seasoning in the flour. And then you hang. I'm talking about the old school way. Oh, no. You put it in a bag and you shake it. People do that. That's weird.

Yeah. That's the boogey way it doing. Oh, no. You put everything in the bag and shake it up. Do you got to, I'm vegan, I can't really. I would like to see you cook, though. Like, I would like to see your presentation, how you lay things out. I could tell I could add the baked mac and cheese if it's good.

The eye is still 100%. Look at how vegans have to live and what they would get excited for. I'm excited because I want you to cook and I want to taste your food. Yeah, he's like, I just want, this is so exciting to watch you cook. Yeah, because you can look at somebody's presentation like, okay, she knows what she's doing. She knows her way around the kitchen. You know what I mean? You can tell the one man, you don't know how to cook.

You want to go up to my food and sniff it? No, I wouldn't do that. I could just look at it and tell like, damn, that looked good. Like when you cut into the baked mac and you scoop that first block, you scoop out. I'm undefeated. My macaroni and cheese is going to feed. How many cheeses do you use? Five.

You are five cheese. Ooh, you might be, yeah, you might be top tier. Yeah, I used five. Cracker Barrow. Extra sharp. I don't tell people. Ooh, that crack a barrel extra sharp. You know what I'm not eating mac and cheese that's not extra sharp.

Ball still turned down by macaroni cheese because he can't have it. I know, right? Yeah, man. Listen, I was a mac and cheese. She's a sassin. You hear me? I used to be on that toilet talking to everybody after I ate. Screaming from the bathroom.

It was good, but I'm paying for it now. Because I'm just lactose. See, that was another reason why it was just easy for me to change my diet because I just got tired of my stomach griping and being fucked up from eating dairy, man. I couldn't do it. I don't think anyone's doing that lately. And I'm like, I'm like literally sad as fuck.

I can't go vegan, yo. No, you don't have to go vegan. But the older black people get, you got to stop. You got to stop eating the dairy. It gets worse. Trust me. Because then you can't even control your. your ass muscles no more.

Like when you reach a certain age, you know, you know, you're younger, you can hold in a fart, your stomach, your stomach bubbling, you can time it right. Let me tell you something. When you reach 35, 36, the caboose get loose, my nigga, and now he ain't gonna be able to hold it in, you're gonna shit yourself, I'm telling you. Don't play that game. My homeboy shit itself two months ago. I'm not gonna say his name because, because niggas know that's my homeboy.

I'm not gonna say his name, but no bullshit. He ate a whole bunch of baked mac and cheese, true story. He thought he could time it from the restaurant to the crib. A little bit of traffic on the way. Fucked him up. Shit on itself right in the driver seat. He came in the crib. He did the penguin walk.

I said, I thought he fucked his leg up. I said, yeah, what happened? I said, y'all, I just shit on myself. I'm like, what? Big Mac and cheese. Black people, it ain't for us, man. That dairy ain't for us. So you don't know nothing about this because y'all...

The last time as an adult that I shit myself was actually right around the corner from where we record. But you probably was... Why were you sitting yourself? No, no. I was coming off the train. My mom's office used to be right up here. I won't say we're at, but my mother's office used to be right up here.

I was getting off the train to go meet her for lunch. And I was walking up those steep-ass steps. Oh, the caboose was loose. Off the B. And I thought it was a fart. The caboose was loose. I misjudged it. The caboose was loose.

I misjudged it. My mom called, ask where I was at, though. She's like, are you late? I'm like, no, mom, I'll tell you later. I was in some random restaurant trying to get my shit. I threw my underwear out. I was raw dog in jeans.

Yeah. Like, you're not a real nigga until you shit yourself one time too, by the way. Every real nigga shit they yourself at least once. Because it's just you don't, you think you could time it and then you like getting traffic. Like, I know the feeling. I shit myself coming from school

and the train was delayed. But I thought I could time it coming from Harlem uptown to the Bronx. I'm like, I'm usually a 15 minute ride. I'm like, you can feel a bubbling this to me. Like, I got time. I could, I can make it home. Boy, we got delayed.

Ooh, baby. You didn't do that on the train. I swear. I swear, but the good thing is I had on boxer briefs, so they kind of acted like a diaper. They kind of like held everything in. If I would have had on the regular like boxes, like, no, it would have been all down my legs. First of all, it was the train. Someone probably shit on it the stop before.

I was in a perfect place. I could have just shit. I could have just shit on the seat and everybody looked at me like it was a regular Monday. But I shit on myself. I had to walk home. The homies was outside on the block. Oh, my God. They didn't know I got shit in my drawers.

They like, yeah, oh, yeah. And they're trying to call me over there. like hang out. I'm like, y'all, I got to go upstairs. I'll be back. Got to the, got to the door. The incinerated door was right by my apartment door. I had to take all my. I had to. I had to. My mom opened the door. I was like, what the hell's wrong? I said, I shit myself. She was like, what? Couldn't hold it, man. The caboose get loose. So yeah, you got to leave that dairy alone, man. Randomly, beefs through jeans, fucked up. No, I went to a school. I had to wear uniforms, so it was worse. I had on slacks. You got on the khakis? It was khakis and shoes and dress socks and a shirt and tie.

And it was just bad, man. I baked a cake, too. It was. one of those heavy shit. All right, Ma. You know, they should come out like an in a mess. This was a good episode. We had Dale yesterday, this episode today, doubling up on the content. We'll be back on Thursday or Friday. When the fuck we pushed it out.

Shout out to the Lakers, man. They signed Isaiah Thomas. I was happy to see that over the weekend. They brought Isaiah Thomas in. I'm happy for him. I don't know what that does for the Lakers. The Lakers suck, man. And I was just coming from a Daha Lakers, man.

We stink. I mean, y'all got that crypto, though, though. Yeah, but we invest in different businesses. I'm sticking in different businesses. Something that's to happen, Rory. I don't know. Trade has to happen, man. We have to get rid of somebody.

I don't want to say who I think will be traded, but. LeBron James. No, LeBron James, that will never happen. LeBron James will never be traded. But how you trashed with LeBron James against you, though? Listen, man, I've seen this before. We had Carl Malone, Gary Payton, Shaq, Kobe. But that was when Carl Malone and Gary Payton were, should have retired the year before.

So that does not count. Yeah, well, some will say that, you know, there's some pieces on this Lakers team that should be retired as well. Some will say I wouldn't say it, but yeah, it's not ego, man. Let me just say that ego is something that's not talked about enough in sports. Brown's A.D.'s. It's got to be one of the two. Well, see, with LeBron, it's almost like, here's what I think.

I don't think it's an ego problem between LeBron and A.D. I don't think it's that. I think that AD is not comfortable in his role. I think he's not I don't think that he's the number one option. He's not. Even if he should be, he's not. Even when he should have been, he's not.

So this is what I'm saying. It's just, I don't know, something, something has to happen. LeBron James is LeBron James, and we know that he's not going anywhere. But something has to happen with that team, though, because this is not a championship team right now. Yeah. And if they put this team together with championship in mind. And right now it's not working out.

So they need to do something. I don't know what they're going to do, but it looks bad. We losing the teams we should not be losing to. I just seen some clips of Mello's son. I think it was Mellow's son. Yeah. Is he played a Christ the King? Is it Christ the King?

That's what it looked like Christ the King. He looked like he was falling. Well, he's been around the gym for, you know, since he could barely walk. Yeah. You know what I mean? So it's how tall you think he's going to be? He's going to be tall. because Lala is not a short woman.

Yeah, no, no, he's going to be tall. He looked like he'll be at least six, five, at least. At minimum. Yeah. So, um. Two of them. I want to see that. It's just don't see them, like, players that you watch come in the league.

And now their kids are, like, in high school or going to college. I mean, it's let you know you're getting old, too. But I love that he's playing at Christ the King and not, like, some special preppy school. You fucking development. Yeah. Shit in the middle of nowhere. I think it's good to put your kid, like, if you were, if you're a professional

athlete and you have kids that are now want to play sports in school, I think it's good to kind of throw them in those circuits with the tough kids from the inner cities. And I mean, Christa King, don't get it twisted. It's a great school. And it's had a great basketball program for a while, but it's still like in the middle of Queens. Yeah, and then not only that, a lot of the kids from the inner

city, they go to those schools. You know what I mean? And they play those sports. I think it's good. I think it's... Even St. Raymond's is an amazing school and an amazing basketball school. Yeah. You're still in the Bronx, though. And an interesting part of the Bronx as well. But I like that, though. I like that, though. I like sending your kids when you know, Carmelo Anthony obviously is, you know, wealthy. And he could

have sent his kid to the most prestigious high school in America. Where. And he chose to send him to a school that has a really huge basketball tradition. And I like that. I like shit like that. I like seeing that. Sometimes you got to let your kids know, your privilege, but take the train to school. Get some life experience. Yeah, take the train to school. You know what I mean? Get beat up a little bit. You know what I mean? Like, you need that sometimes. And go playing in in fucking New York City basketball for real. I mean, even know, it's still in the Catholic School is still for it's play on that circuit just not PSAL shit it's that Catholic school shit is still to be a thing going to like Madison Square Garden when they had the tournament the high school

tournament still a thing I mean COVID would the only reason it's not a thing it was a big brawl one year and I think that ended it it was a big I think what you know I think I think Vok might have been involved in that I think Vox spoke about that on Twitter one time I hope he did not think about it I think no bullshit I got to hit Vok I think he spoke about it that year I think Vok was involved in that big ass brole of Madison Square Garden when he was in high school. Yes. That wouldn't surprise, but I think it was Vok.

That's my God. I think it was Vought. 2007? Okay, no, that wasn't Vaux. I was not going to put that. He was talking about it. That wasn't Vox. I'm not going to put that out there.

I'm not going to put that on him. 21 arrests. Yeah. Yeah, that was a big, but that was a thing. Who was playing? What school? It used to be Rice. I think

07 would have been. Price the King might have played it. No, because it was a PSA. It was public school. No, there must have been Abraham. Lincoln was playing. Because that was a year, why I'm playing on his name? From Lincoln?

No, no, no. Way after. Lance Stevenson? Yeah. That was the year Lance Stevenson was with them. Yeah, it was a thing, though, because that used to be the big weekend. I used to go get fresh, get an outfit to go to Masters Square Garden early. It was like 12.

The game was like 11 or 12. Early. And just watched like all the high schools. I think Mount Vernon might have played in that one year, too. Okay. No, I was always the thing. Okay. I mean, I can totally see the crowd from boys and girls.

Because it's Brooklyn. And boys and girls is, you know, it's one of those schools. So you got two Brooklyn, because boys and girls in Brooklyn and Lincoln is in Brooklyn. Yeah. You got two Brooklyn. I think it's in bedstile. Two schools from Brooklyn, all of the students are there. You know what's going to happen.

Yeah, you know what's about to happen. But that was a fun time going up in New York when they used to have it. I don't. I don't think they've had it since. I don't think that ended it, though. I feel like I've been after 07. I feel like even when I was at St. Peter's, I used to go to this. I know.

I definitely didn't go after that year. I think it still happened. But anyways, yeah. High school, New York City basketball is the best on earth. So I'm glad that Melo's Son is playing in that. And Christ the King, it's been a minute since they've, like, really dominated. Yeah, man. So what we got going on for the rest of the week?

I know we got one more. We're back one more episode. Yep. Before we take a break, again, shout out to Dale in a Detroit, what is it, Detroit Urban Survival Tactical SWAT team unit. I think that's the exact title, yeah. The exact title. That's it's dust. It was an acronym for dust, right?

Yeah. Because I remember I saw that, I was like, ah, let's see what you did. Detroit Urban Survival Tactics. Something like that. We're vipers now, so it's, you know. Yeah, we got our badge. We took the course to graduate. Wait, I got a badge.

Yeah, Dale gave us the. For our fake bulletproof vest. Yeah. And it's funny, I don't know if Rory sold when we was in Detroit. It was some people in the lobby when we were getting off the elevator. And I think me and Rory

were both carrying the vest in our hand. And they were sitting there the people was looking at us like, I know these ain't cops. They look at us like, you got bulletproof vest. What the fuck? When I walked in the first time with them, I was like, am I really walking

across a casino floor with two Bulletproof vests in my hands. Because you got a thing about it. White guy, black guy, Carl was with us black guy. We got duffel bags, bulletproofs in our hands in a casino. Yeah.

That's... We've seen this movie. You know that movie. I'm calling the cops on us. Yeah, you know that movie. Exactly. You know that movie. So they was looking at us like,

fan, what the fuck going on there? White dude, two black dudes, bulletproof vesting hands, duffel bags. What's in them bags, fan? Word. You know what I mean?

I saw them looking and I just had to laugh to myself like, I know this looks great. Because I would look at them like, yo, we're about to get out of it. For sure. But yeah, shout out the deal, man. That was really fun.

That shit really works. It really, well, it hurts. I hope I don't have to know. Yeah, I don't ever want to have to use that shit. Yeah, I don't want to ever have to use it. But that shit hurt. I'll tell you that. Definitely did.

So, y'all have fun laughing at us. Rest and peace to Dracchio. Rest in peace, Draco. Again, man, it's unfortunate. But when we lost Dolf, I sat on the show. It's unfortunate. It's not going to be the last person. that we lose.

It's just been a hell of a year. Like they released something to tweet with all of the artists that we lost this year due to gun violence. And it's just sad, man. It's really, really sad. I don't know what we're doing

in our culture. But we need to, we need to rethink this thing because the energy that's out there right now and the shit that's going on is it can't continue going this way. Yeah. This is like, this is,

it's a huge, huge problem. And I'm still not even sure what it's all about and what it's all for. Like, I just don't understand it. We're dying so young. We're killing each other. 28. That's young. Yes, it's just, I don't know, man.

You know, I don't even know what to say anymore. It's just unfortunate because once again, I know that this won't be the last one. And that's the unfortunate part about all of this. So, you know, whatever we got to do to change this energy and to change this narrative in our culture and within each other, I don't know if we need to have, you know, roundtable discussions once a month. I don't know if we need to, you know, I don't know, but we can't keep ignoring this like it's not a real problem. We can't just keep scrolling after reading and seeing images of, you know, these young brothers and, you know, young sisters dying in the streets,

dying at these festivals, dying at shows in their neighborhoods by the hands of their own people. just keep looking at this and scrolling right past it. Like, it's just business as usual. Like, that's just, it's something very strange about us being so, like, numb to this type of shit. Like, I, we should not be numb to this type of shit. It's not a normal way to live. And, again, it's unfortunate. You know, prayers to Drake Yo and his family, his friends. But once again, man, it's sad to say, but it won't be the last. And that's, and that's, and that's the problem. And I hope this doesn't lead to more of it because I already saw those reports. I mean, this again, man, I'm, listen, man, I'm just being honest.

I'm from the streets. I'm from these places. My friends, you know, it's, I know what goes on. And it's unfortunate, but, you know, it's like I, the older you get, man, it's just the shit starts to hit you differently because 28 years old. And you think about, you know, I think about where I was at at 28. And I was like, if I was to die in the streets like that, it's a tragedy. Yeah.

And, you know, it's nothing short of the tragedy. Yeah. Die at your job. Yeah. Like, he was there to work. Yeah. It's unfortunate. It's unfortunate.

And whatever we need to do to, to end this and to, you know, push the culture in a different direction as far as the energy and just the, this black cloud that's over hip hop in our culture. Like, we got to, we got to change this because this is supposed to be fun. It's supposed to be art. We're supposed to be providing a way for our families to live better lives. and create opportunities for the people around us. And, you know, we shouldn't be dying like this. We shouldn't be killing each other like this. And, you know, it's just, it's sad.

So whatever we need to do, we got to do it, man, because this ain't it. This is definitely not it. Yeah. Rest and peace. Praise to his family. I don't know if there's anything else we have to hit. We'll be back very shortly.

So. Yeah. Everybody be safe. Stay safe. Stay healthy. Happy holidays, you know, enjoy this time with family and friends. Be grateful, be thankful, and we'll talk to you on a few days. Peace.

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