New Rory & MAL - Episode 282 | Support Black Nepotism

Episode Date: July 5, 2024

We’re back after a brief hiatus! We know you missed us, so we came back ready to talk about all of the events that transpired during our absence. We start off catching up with each other on the past... week, with Julian letting us know what his wedding swag was (5:06). Mal lets us know that white people are in Harlem kissing the feet of black Israelites (12:20), and tells us about his experience in honoring the life of a late friend of the show . The BET awards happened, and Mal was extremely disappointed in, well, everything (16:09). We break down the new Will Smith song/performance (19:09), the Usher tribute (33:45), and the winners (including the Tyla v. Sexyy Red debate) (52:58). Rick Ross made a bad decision and we discuss the recording that came out of him (and his DJ) receiving consequences for their actions (1:08:54). Bronny James got drafted to the Lakers, and we are honest about how we feel about it (1:24:13). By the way, was Derek Fisher a great player (1:44:06)? Tweet Mal and let him know what you think. Caitlyn Clark and Angel Reese are teammates on the WNBA All Stars team and we debate which one of them is having a better rookie year (1:50:54). We briefly touch on the new music that dropped (1:59:14), and then get into the first voicemail: A sweet, summer child needs advice on an older man spinning her (2:04:15). We give her some brutal honesty (hey, she asked for it). Our second voicemail is from a gentlemen who had a bad experience with a woman and wants our permission to hate her (2:20:29). Who would we be if we didn't grant him that?Rest In Peace Upscale Cracc For MORE Rory & Mal, make sure you subscribe to our Patreon community, for exclusive episodes, first access to tickets and merch sales, private live chats with the team, + more! https://www.patreon.com/newrorynmalFollow Rory: @ThisIsRoryFollow MAL: @MAL_ByTheWayFollow Demaris: @DemarisAGiscombeFollow Julian: @Julian__nicholas To watch the podcast on YouTube: https://bit.ly/NewRoryAndMALYouTube Don’t forget to follow the podcast for free wherever you're listening or by using this link: https://bit.ly/NewRoryAndMAL Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoicesSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:07 Hope to see y'all there. You know I ran in the pen release three times. Yeah? Yeah. It's a fact. What place did you finish? I mean, we were there. Tough meat.
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Starting point is 00:03:22 July 25th, Rory. You go to Philly to 29th and see who's... All right, cool. For the encore. I got going on on the 29th. July 25th, Philadelphia, City Winery. Get your tickets now. Tough word to say.
Starting point is 00:03:35 Yeah, city wine. No, Philadelphia. Yeah, that's a tough word to say. Shalada. Too many syllables. Yeah. It's weird how they named cities. Like, I understand New York.
Starting point is 00:03:45 It's the New York. What's Philadelphia? Cream cheese, yeah. Wait, they named Philly after cream cheese? Yeah, definitely. You never have Philadelphia cream cheese? Of course I had, but I didn't, I thought that was named after the city. The city was named after the cream cheese.
Starting point is 00:04:00 It's a Greek. Like most origins, it's Greek words for love and brother. That's why the city of brotherly love. Holy shit. Because it's certainly not named that after the people that live there. Well, not anymore. Those people moved out. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:14 No love in Philly. There's no love. Yeah, those people that had love in Philly, they moved out. Yeah. Nothing about Eagles fans screams love. Yeah, no, it's over. But we are back. Had a brief hiatus.
Starting point is 00:04:28 We are back. We are back. Good to see everybody. Yeah, it's been a while. It's been a while. Julian was gone for like a week. We haven't had the full crew in here, and I feel like two weeks. was gone for a week.
Starting point is 00:04:38 That's amazing. DeMaris was here. DeMaris was tanning and on rooftops and shit. I should have been running around. If you have a rooftop pool in the tri-state area, Paul DeMaris, she will show up.
Starting point is 00:04:49 She might make some of her amazing mango, what is it? Ceviche? Mango. Mango. Did you like it? It was amazing. Wait, you think that for that?
Starting point is 00:04:59 When? Yo, she could make some of us. Why you sound like you mad? I am. You want to be in D. You want to be in D.C. You're going to miss out on that. the mango, that's all. I did. I missed out.
Starting point is 00:05:09 Yeah, it's all good. You were enjoying, like, lemon chicken and pasta, whatever they serve at weddings. Yeah, you went to Nando's. I know he went to Nandoes in D.C. Every wedding has pasta and lemon chicken. Yeah. And, you know, we know what you were doing. How did your best man's speech go? It was really fun. Officiating 's great. And I... Congrats to
Starting point is 00:05:25 your brother. Yeah. And congrats to his wife. Kendall and Liani. It was a beautiful ceremony. I'm really happy. I officiated it. First time I'm officiating. And I'm nervous? I'm open for higher. I loved it. Did you do this one pro bono or like this is, yeah, this was on the house. You got to set your rate early
Starting point is 00:05:41 this is on the house. This was for the, yeah, for the family. But for the love. For the love. It was fun because it was a moment to obviously it's serious, but it's short, but it's supposed to be fun, lighthearted, so there's a lot of time to make jokes and kept it clean. A lot of old people there. So you got to, you know, play for the crowd
Starting point is 00:05:57 but it was fun. I saw black magic still, the jump is still clicking like the toe bulls. I saw it. Yeah. The jump is still clicking. I saw it. No, he was glowing this week. Yeah, he shot that shit and walked away from it before it went in. He knew it. He knew that was good because sometimes you play a sport long enough.
Starting point is 00:06:12 You know. As soon as it leaves your hands, you're like, that's a buck. It's funny because we hit the court, and that's the first time we shot around in like a couple years. And I have another great video of him from like Brooklyn during the pandemic. But he golfs a lot. So all his motions below his shoulders. He doesn't do this anymore. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:27 So we go out there and he's like, he doesn't step a foot in front of the three point line. So he's pinging it off the front of the rim. I'm like, dad, just take a step. in. He's like, nah, fuck that. They kept backing up. And then once his shoulder loosened up, money. Yeah. It was just... It was great. Blackmagics boy. 73. How would you dirty up the wedding vows, though? You said you
Starting point is 00:06:45 kept it clean. No, no, not the... Not the vows, right? The best man's speech. Oh, this... Well, so I told my brother in Liani, I said, hey, look, I have a very serious note because remember, I told you guys. Like, I wrote this letter is very dark and sad. And I don't want to, like, cast this, like, dark cloud on a beautiful day.
Starting point is 00:07:03 Perfect for a wedding, right? As I said, I'll write you guys a letter and mail it to you at another date. I have it written. I just have to put it. I just want to write it out. I don't want to like type on the letter. And then what I said is once we establish that, I'm probably not going to do a speech. And he was like, cool, cool. So we go to the reception after a ceremony. The Kendall hands me the mic and goes, yo, like, say something. I was like, what the fuck. I thought we weren't going to. I'm going to write it. So yeah, I'll send you the letter. And I'm like saying this off the mic. And then Leani comes over. Just like, no, I was like, fuck. So that was all off top. Oh, I blacked out.
Starting point is 00:07:35 like not off alcohol, just like in the moment blacked out. There's film everywhere. I could find the film and share it. But I was great. I tried to, I kept it short, kept it light. And,
Starting point is 00:07:45 uh, and that was the opportunity to be like more funny and just like kind of, did you all cry? I, so it was funny. When Leani came down when she was walking into the ceremony, I was looking at Kendall watching him cry. And I thought that would make me cry.
Starting point is 00:08:01 But I, in that moment, I was just like talking to him, like kind of just like coaching. him, whatever. And then I cried when her mother did a blessing and then after that, my mom did a blessing. And when I went down to stand next to my mom while her mother was reading her blessing, my mom and I were like small talking. And then as soon as she went up there and started talking, I lost it. That was it. And then I had to like get my shit together to go back up there
Starting point is 00:08:26 to finish this. Well, Kendall was crying because he's like, just the last piece of ass. I'm going to get my life. Stop. What? You know, Kendall was up to like, this is it? I mean, you never know in like 30, 40 years they could end up on a swingers cruise. Yeah, but they could develop into a new relationship. Yeah, but we know when you go on those things, Swinger cruises, nude beaches, the pick of the litter is not what you think it is. Especially on the cruise. Yeah, you'd rather just be faithful.
Starting point is 00:08:47 My wife looks better than all of these girls. I'll just take the open bar and free ice cream on this. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So Kendall was up there crying, you know, because he knew this is it. I'm talking about. Fuck is wrong with it. I'm promising God. I thought that's a beautiful sentiment.
Starting point is 00:08:58 Yeah, I'm promising God to never cheat on this, this woman. Like, this is my life partner. I'm going to honor her death before dishonor and all of those other things. things. I believe that's in the exact Yeah, that's exactly how I said. Before this ring on her saying all that shit. I'll die live by the code. Die by the code.
Starting point is 00:09:15 Yeah, I'm definitely going to put that. Yeah. I'm putting that in my vows. Death before dishonor. Yeah, that's what it is. I'll die before I dishonor my wife. I'll die. Give me death. But there is some home mall. They're not rushing into kids. I don't even think they want kids. So they're just, they're vacationing.
Starting point is 00:09:31 They're living life. They're going to Bali for their honeymoon. They're like doing it right. They're not rushing into like slowing down. Bali's on my list, like my bucket travel list. Yeah, as soon as they lock Russell up, I'm gonna go. Yeah, some as they get his ass up out of it.
Starting point is 00:09:44 Yeah, the moment you get there, you're gonna see puff and Russell. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Let's go somewhere else. Roll it's gonna be yoga masks. I'll go visit Bali. Like, get them nasty nigs out of here first. Remember that church I was telling you guys about
Starting point is 00:09:53 that I went to that made the pregnant women sit in the back? Yeah. So I also went to a wedding for someone at that church. No, you went to a church that made the pregnant women sitting there? Is the bathroom back there? It's like the last pew. if they had a baby outside of wedlock you had to sit in the last pew
Starting point is 00:10:07 while they were pregnant or post pregnancy? Both while they were pregnant I was gonna say it could be a nice gesture they had to sit back there with the kids too I told you didn't tell us but you didn't tell us they had to sit back there after they had the kids yeah that's fucked up you and your rug rats get to the back
Starting point is 00:10:21 and then what was so annoying was if you got there late and you had to be in the second to last few and then you just had a bunch of like fatherless children screaming behind you it was never fun because it's you know it's hard to hear the Lord when you have a toddler screaming. Yeah, naturally.
Starting point is 00:10:37 But that same pastor, right? So I went to a wedding and he conducted the wedding. Out the gate, you know, the I do's. That part takes like 10 minutes. Not at all right. He said, yo, I'm so happy to be here. And you want to know why? Not because I've known this woman her whole life.
Starting point is 00:10:51 It's because it's a man and a woman and not two men. And they went on a gay rant for about 30 minutes while the bride in the room are just standing there like this. I should have done that. You miss you out of too? Just roll up the script. This is a real wedding. Like not two people that love each other. Like, I'm just so happy it's a man and a woman.
Starting point is 00:11:10 This is what weddings were designed for, man and women. Not that other thing that's going on out there. If people think white rednecks are the most homophobic people, just go to the hood. Yeah, no. I'll say that over the top. Oh, God, black people are awful. DC is super gay, by the way. You didn't know that?
Starting point is 00:11:26 You had a ball. Yeah, of course, I'm gay, whatever. Extra product in there. No, I was saying like I know, I understand it was during June. So like every bar, every establishment had like the pride. They go overload there. But I was like, yeah, like I get it for like the business perspective. But then I was looking around.
Starting point is 00:11:41 I was like every couple, every like dinner couple, every walking couple, every, every couple was just a gay couple. I was like, is this like this is just D.C. I didn't know how gay like. But it's also the last weekend of pride. Well, they don't just go into hiding. They live there. No, but it's like that's the biggest weekend. Is it not?
Starting point is 00:11:59 Well, some of them do go in to hide it. Some of them ain't come out that closet yet. How that debate went, it's looking like they may need to hide. But we'll get to that. Yeah. But no, the last weekend, because they had the pride parade here on Sunday, right? So they have there as a different weekend. I was mad.
Starting point is 00:12:13 I missed it. They stagger them because they don't want to do all the big cities the same week. Ah, yeah. They do the same thing with St. Patrick's Day. I'm serious. They stagger. Like Jersey City won't do it right on St. Patrick's Day because Manhattan does it. And like Hoboken will do it a different day than Jersey City.
Starting point is 00:12:27 Because we want you out to come here too? Yeah. Yeah, I get it. So everyone can make their rounds. Thinking that people that go to the Jersey City Parade won't go to the Hoboken Parade because it's like. No, they purposely do it different days because everyone wants to go to all of them. And so that a gunman won't just run around and shoot everybody at once.
Starting point is 00:12:42 Like you can't get like two parades in one day. That's why. I don't know if that's why. And I don't know. Usually the shooters are from the St. Patrick's Day Parade. I was talking about pride, but not St. Patrick's Day Parade is safe because those shooters are actually in the parade marching.
Starting point is 00:13:00 Yo, baby, they'd be having the craziest stats. Like, where do you get your dad? You're like, yeah, where did you read? TikTok? Yeah, I remember when Baby Dee said, nah, the white people marched with the black people so that they could shield them. And then everybody told you that I was right? It was two people that said. It was two priests.
Starting point is 00:13:16 Yeah. We did, we, we fact check. No, it was more than that. I'm not going into that. I was already proven right. You already apologized to me that I was right. So we're just going to, that fact, I was Right. But I think that's white people that... This I just made up.
Starting point is 00:13:29 I think that's the white people that go with the black people they know. Like, I find it hard to believe that if my black ass was at a Black Lives Matter rally and the cops start fucking me up, that some white people that didn't know me were going to come and help me. Just doesn't happen like that. I don't know. That time was wild. They were doing some crazy shit to get likes by blacks. They were on their knees kissing black people's feet.
Starting point is 00:13:49 They do that every day on the 25th Street with the Israelites. You had the fucking Congress or the senators, whoever they were, down. there in Kintay Kloff. Do y'all not remember 2020 and how fucking this was them? Remember they were asking black people for forgiveness? Thank you. So you can't believe that they would line up in front of you on the front line so that the police wouldn't hit you. You can't believe that that would
Starting point is 00:14:11 happen? That's a mental illness though. Wait, wait, wait. Maul, you're telling me now. Those white people in there, those are mentally ill white. This new set of whites. The ones after my generation. They're standing on pavement that says George Floyd. Are bowing down to Israelites in 125th? You didn't know that? We used to cross the street when we heard them yelling. We were petrified. Yeah. But no, there's some people, there's some white people that go up to them and start having a conversation, like about the Bible and, you know, all
Starting point is 00:14:34 of that, and they start breaking it down. And then when they feel like, oh, damn, I've been wrong about y'all all my life. I'm sorry. But yeah, now get on your knees and kiss my feet. And they start doing that shit. I'm telling y'all some real shit. Go to, so, baby, that's been happening in the hall of you. I've seen that forever. These liberals at Columbia are taking this shit to the next thing. Yeah, you know, it's crazy. It's a crazy time in the world right now, but I think it's entertaining so it is what it is, man. Oh man, I mean, y'all know what's not.
Starting point is 00:15:01 I'm on with the Israelites. Yeah, I get it. I'm just, I'm not kissing anyone's feet. No, no, no, no. I rock with y'all. That's what I'm saying. That's a, that's a specific type of person that will get down and kiss a random person's feet.
Starting point is 00:15:11 I never saw that George Floyd clip before. That's wild. There's some even worse ones out there. It was, we lived in a very insane time. It was crazy. It was 2020 was by far, 2020 and most of 2021 was by far. some of the weirdest times where we will ever live through.
Starting point is 00:15:30 I mean, you can just have good dialogue with your black friends and do your part. Nah, why would they do that? Why don't you do them private? You got to do them public. You can educate yourself, talk to your black friends. No, that's a good start. They want to censor themselves. Maul, how was your weekend?
Starting point is 00:15:44 It was a little bittersweet. I had to go to, went to a funeral service for my guy, chef, Jamal, James Kent, rest in peace to chef. But the service was a, it was a beautiful. service. Then they had a celebration of life late on that night at the refinery, the domino sugar refinery, and I think it's in Brooklyn. In Williamsburg. Yeah. Beautiful, beautiful space. They just re-did it, right? Yeah. It's a big project, a lot of money. Yeah, that's a beautiful.
Starting point is 00:16:12 It was a, you know, it was a sad occasion, but it was also talking to people there, I was like, your chef is definitely like smiling because some of the, obviously, some of the top chefs in the world were there. Yeah. They had a bunch of stations set up where, you know, all of chefs had prepared food. So it was food. You know, Stretch Armstrong was DJ and Quest Love did a set. So it was music. It was everything that that chef was. He was from New York. It was New York to the fullest in there. Everybody had on sneakers, like, because that was chef's thing. The food was incredible. The ambiance, the atmosphere. It was just, it was a beautiful night for a sad occasion, you know, being that chef passed. But it was definitely a beautiful night.
Starting point is 00:16:56 And after that, I just was with the fam. A couple friends hung out a little bit in the city, went to eat. Like, nothing crazy. I kept the chill for the most part. I'm like, well, yeah, rest of peace to chef, man. Rest and peace to Chef, Kent. And if you're ever in New York City, you get a chance, stop by Crown Shy, have a drink, get something to eat if you want.
Starting point is 00:17:18 You know, if you want to go to Overstory and get a drink, they're still in business. They're still pushing forward with a lot of the things that chef had set out to do. set out to do. So if you ever in New York City, definitely stop by Crown Shy and, you know, have a drinking honor of talented and legendary chef Kent. Yeah. I feel like a lot, a lot happens in the week that we haven't been here. Yeah. Oh, it felt like a month. What happens when you just take a couple days off and just let the world do what they do? Mm-hmm. Insane things happen. Oh my God. Where do we want to start? Do you want to start with BT? We start light and then get to the shit that happened right after we,
Starting point is 00:17:56 our last episode. I think the night of. Okay. All right, so let's do that. We'll go with BT to start. Let's start with the BT. First of all, shout out to everyone that was nominated or won a BET Award this weekend in Los Angeles. Obviously, the BET
Starting point is 00:18:12 Awards is a staple. We grew up watching. We grew up supporting. It's our night, quote-unquote, black entertainment. That quote-unquote is crazy. You know, I mean, quote-unquote, it's our night, if you want to call it that. So, yes, I don't know which one this was. How many awards have they been so far?
Starting point is 00:18:31 This is the whatever annual, whatever number it was. Who gives a shit? Doesn't matter. I think that it's time to have a real conversation about BET. Who owns BET? Who runs BET? I believe Disney's actually trying to sell them for $1.2 billion or something currently. or Paramount's
Starting point is 00:18:55 Paramount's trying to sell to Disney something was in those headlines let's fact check that Yeah it's a subsidiary of Paramount currently Yeah so Paramount's trying to sell it for over a billion dollars So I mean I guess that should give you your answer But you're saying BT in general or the BT Awards
Starting point is 00:19:10 BT in general Okay because I've been on the side of the BT awards Being pretty good for the last five years I think they've gotten it kind of right I don't think so I think that and it's not I don't want to put it all because it's a bigger story. It's a bigger conversation to have.
Starting point is 00:19:26 It's not just BT. I think that the BET Awards that just happened spoke to the lack of talent that we have right now in the music industry. Lack of talent that's being pushed to the mainstream, you mean? But I don't know if that's a BETT Awards fault. No, I didn't say that. It's part of the ecosystem, but. It's what they're picking from what they have. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:19:53 And they're trying to put together their best show. But it's, we have to do something, man, because this is, um, this BET Awards. I was watching it and I couldn't believe how bad it was. But why do you say it was what was bad about it, Ma? Well, first of all, they only give out how many awards? On TV, they only give a film. Yeah, they only do as a cut of certain awards for television. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:17 And then the performances. Okay. Say who sucked. Say it. Yeah. I mean, I think. everybody sucked outside of Victoria Monet and Tiana Taylor. You're going to put some respect on Chloe Bailey name.
Starting point is 00:20:30 That's what you're going to do. Oh, she was good, too. She was amazing. She was the best performance of the night. You're going to put some respect. I don't know if she did better than Victoria. Yes. I don't know if she performed better than Victoria.
Starting point is 00:20:38 Victoria Monet is a superstar. She's the next, she is the next superstar that we have right now, the one that I think everybody can look at. I like Chloe, too. She did her thing. In like Will Smith's return? And that's another See
Starting point is 00:20:55 No, because I thought When they announced Will Smith I thought Will was going to address the audience I thought he was going to speak to the BET audience,
Starting point is 00:21:05 his audience, his people because we haven't had Will Smith at an award show since obviously the whole Chris Rock incident
Starting point is 00:21:12 at the Oscars So I thought he was going to use this platform to talk to us specifically The song talks Turn that shit off
Starting point is 00:21:20 Nobody want to hear that You don't want a new Will Smith song in 20 way forward? I don't want to hear it. The sun coming up. I don't, and I know what beat's grand rising. He's moving on from the person he was when he smacked Chris Rock. Cut the shit.
Starting point is 00:21:32 I actually hate that he did this. And the reason why I hate that he did this is because Will Smith doesn't need a red. You don't need a redemption. Like, you don't need the black church ladies to forgive you. You smack that nigga. It's okay. Let's move on. You just grossed like a billion dollars in like a box office.
Starting point is 00:21:46 Like you're straight, bro. But you know how Hollywood and just entertainment works in general. Like, a comeback. You have to do this and add the sauce to it to just show you're a new person because that's what the mass is love. He ain't a new person. Of course he's not. He was smack again.
Starting point is 00:22:01 Wait, you think all that you think... Let Chris make another G.I. Jane joke. So you guys think these celebrities that go to rehab then do the Gail King interview and then just get right back on drugs? Come on, man. Of course they were lying to us. This is just part of the story. Yeah, but that's... See, I wouldn't have been mad at it if Will took
Starting point is 00:22:17 that time. Have him perform. Great. He's Will Smith. He's, you know, he's fucking He's one of the most legendary artists and performance that we have. We understand that. But I would have liked for him to address the audience and address the viewership about, you know, obviously what happened a few years ago. Because this was his first appearance at an award show since that. So I thought that they would have used this moment for Will to just say, yo, listen, man, you know, we make mistakes. I made a mistake.
Starting point is 00:22:49 It was fucked up. you know, like it was wrong. I apologize. No, they hit him with the rain. When has Will ever been that guy since maybe boycotting the Grammys, whatever year that was? Yeah, but don't, don't, don't not be that guy, but then show up to the BET Awards to perform a new record that nobody cares about. I think one of the most human moments we've gotten from Will is him smacking Chris Rock out of all the built-up anger he's been holding on to for a decade. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:13 And said, keep my fucking wife's name. That was the most human moment I've seen. I didn't agree with it. I'm cool with that. I thought it was corny. I'm cool with that. But that was the most human moment I've seen from him. I don't think we're ever going to get another human moment from him.
Starting point is 00:23:24 And I'm okay with that. I'm okay with people making mistakes. But my thing is, we don't need this performance. You don't need a choir. We don't need Sunday service choir. We don't need you to say Kirk Franklin. We know that's Kirk Franklin. We can see him.
Starting point is 00:23:36 Like, we don't, we don't need that. For the new fans. Yeah, but this is, it's just, like, B.T. B.T. used this Will Smith moment because they knew people would tune in to see Will Smith because this was his first time at an award show. But it's also, Will is putting out new shit as well. Is he really? This wasn't just for that moment?
Starting point is 00:23:55 Will is using Coachella. Will is using BT, the same way any other artists would. Why would he put out more music? Nothing wrong with that. They were using each other. Yeah, but I just, don't use me, though. You can use BT. You can use Will Smith, but don't use me.
Starting point is 00:24:08 Like, don't give me that because it's just like, all right, the performance cool. I still don't know the name of the record. I'm not going to download. I don't either. I'm not going to stream it. It's called You Can Make It off his upcoming album. get it ready for this name dance in your darkest moments ew no way that's the name of a fucking album you see what I'm saying
Starting point is 00:24:25 all right yeah I'm thinking he slapped them for the rollout all my faves just this was always the plan my own case this shit is crazy this is fucking so lame you know his white ass PR team Sab now is like this is your look it's your dark you down bad but we still dancing because you're will we love you this is probably the same exact PR team that did Justin Timber Lake Man in the Woods this feels like the same And this wouldn't be, that, that Oscars moment wouldn't have been considered a dark moment if he slapped Chris Rock at the BT Awards. We wouldn't have cared about it that. But the fact that it was on an Oscar stage in front of that part of Hollywood.
Starting point is 00:25:01 I can't want to see the album cover. That demographic, now it's my darkest way. If that was that big, not many niggas get slapped at the BETT Awards? Niggas get slapped every year at the BTW. Ain't nobody having to. Didn't Tony Ayo and Gunplay get a full fair one at the D.C. It's a whole fair one. That shit don't, you know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:25:16 Like that get happened at the BT. Like nobody would have been tripping. Like that'd have been like, oh shit, Will Smith slap the shit out of Chris Rock in the BT it was. That would have been it. I don't think the darkest moments. The Chris Rock shit I think was
Starting point is 00:25:27 the end of the dark moment. Like, if he doesn't discuss all that other shit, I don't give a fuck about the Chris Rock thing. That was manifesting all the dark moments into his hand. Listen, man. And then trying to get them out. Will is from Philly.
Starting point is 00:25:40 Chris Rock, that's not a dark moment. That's because you holding shit forever. Because you didn't address your dark moments. So you went and did that. So don't give me this performance. So there's not a whole record, a disc record to August Alcena. I don't really care about dancing to his darkest moments. To be fair, B.T. always has a gospel segment with somebody, somebody would a choir always come out.
Starting point is 00:26:00 Which is fine. This year was Will. This year was Will. Because we know Will to be that, right? No gospel artists? So what? You can change. You can make a gospel song.
Starting point is 00:26:10 Will ain't changed? Yo, Willa slap the shit out of somebody tomorrow. We're talking about. Wait a minute. Because as the music faded out. Will said nobody gets an easy ride. We all have our cross to bear, but there is wisdom in that fire. And every single
Starting point is 00:26:22 moment of your life is a brand new opportunity. We are not afraid. We are not being punished. We are not being forged. Dance in your darkest. Do you playing victim for smacking someone is hilarious. Like, get the fuck out. He's not playing victim. Yes, he is. I don't think that he's, this is my thing. And like, he didn't even play victim
Starting point is 00:26:38 when his wife was fucking someone in their crib, but now he's playing victim because he smacked someone else. We all have a cross to bear. nigga, you just slap somebody. What cross is that the bear? I feel like, okay. Get your jokes off, do you think?
Starting point is 00:26:51 No, I'm being serious. No, truth is that important. No, go ahead. What is the truth? He didn't slap somebody? This is my honest opinion. Okay, yes, he slapped somebody, but y'all are making it about the slap.
Starting point is 00:27:01 Very obviously, Will was not in the best mental state, and that led to the slap. It's not like he was just like happily a great person, mental was good and he slapped somebody. No, because if it was, he would have never done that. Just because you slap somebody don't mean you're not in the best mental state? Sometimes niggas need to be smacked. Okay.
Starting point is 00:27:18 So it is what it is. But don't give me this rollout of, we all have a cross to bed, but there's wisdom in that fire. Nigger, you're just mad because them white people said you can't come back to the Oscars for a few years. That ain't across the bed. And you have a movie and album to sell.
Starting point is 00:27:33 Yeah, fuck the Oscars. Like, okay. Well, he don't have a movie to sell. The movie sold. Movie is selling very well. Clearly. He ain't missing no meals no time soon. He's both Smith.
Starting point is 00:27:44 A-lister. So I think that I do think that will... Certified A-Lister. Smack Chris from A to B. You smacked him down a peg. Yeah. Immediately became B-lister. Well, I like...
Starting point is 00:27:56 But to me... All right, to me, this weird comparison, but like, have you ever seen criminals murder people for decades? Then they get caught, and then they get on the stand and like, I want to change my life and I'm going to tell on everyone
Starting point is 00:28:06 and now I'm a Christian. This is the same shit to me. All right. You did some bullshit. You smacked Chris Rock. And now you're reaping all the consequences because you can't go back to the Oscars. And now it's like, well, it was a dark time.
Starting point is 00:28:18 We all, we all have a cross to bear. I'm a Christian now. Take me back. Is it possible that maybe he actually feels this way? Is it possible that he actually feels this way? Maybe. Will Smith is from Philadelphia. He don't feel no type of way about slapping a nigga in the face.
Starting point is 00:28:34 I'm not talking about the slap. July 25th. Y'all are making it all about the slap. I'm not talking about the slap. Is it possible that he wasn't in a great mental state period? Fuck the slap. and now he's on a healing journey and he wants to release art about it.
Starting point is 00:28:47 Y'all sit up here and complain about all the fucking negative shoot him up, kill him, murder him music that we get and then somebody releases positive music and y'all find a way to tear it apart. So I'm just wondering. I would tear Will Smith's music apart even if he didn't slap nobody.
Starting point is 00:29:01 If that wasn't, if that moment didn't happen, this album would not be coming out. Okay. But at the end of the day, it's positive music if he wants to release it. Why y'all got to kick his back in? Baby D. I think you missed one. I'm not mad at the music.
Starting point is 00:29:15 I'm just saying if you're going to give us a performance like that at the BT Awards, I think you also have to give Will Smith that time to say, listen, I think you're not this little fucking the shit that they put in the description once your song releases on DSPs. Don't give me that speech. Give me, yo listen, man, we all know what happened a couple years ago on that Oscar stage. It's fucked up. It was terrible, whatever, whatever. Like, you know, I spoke to Chris.
Starting point is 00:29:41 Maybe I didn't. address the audience, don't give me this shit. Why would he address the audience two years later? Because this is his first time on a stage at a fucking show since that happened. This is his first time in front of a fucking show in front of an audience where people are sitting there and we all know what happened. So if you're going to give me this redemption song, if you're going to give me this redemption song and have Sunday service behind me and have Kirk Franklin come out the back after he then did 20 burpees. Then I just found out who his father was. Yeah, like, Will, then give me to, yo, listen, man,
Starting point is 00:30:16 BT, this is my first time in front of y'all since all that shit happens. I let it. I let it. I just have that. I want to, I want to curse that on stage, too, because that was the craziest story I ever heard in my fucking life. I didn't say that. I just was going to let him rock. I like when Friday gets in his gospel bag, though.
Starting point is 00:30:30 It just felt very much like an easy way for Will not to have to address the shit that he did. Wait, it's literally the Sunday service choir. Yeah. Yeah. Yes, this I'm saying. It's like this whole prediction. I cut this shit, man. We know what this.
Starting point is 00:30:46 I'm not mad at will per se. I'm just mad at this system that big celebrities do every single time where they don't have to take accountability. They don't have to have consequences really happen on them. They don't have to address anything. They can have a PR team that just puts them into this Christian box, throws it in our face, and we're just supposed to move on. Y'all never fall for this kid. Everyone else has to literally live in the decisions they make and deal with the consequences and come to the front of the stage when we, fuck up. But these guys can just get a slot at a fucking award show, get the Sunday service choir,
Starting point is 00:31:16 and now it's like, damn what, Will is a good guy, you know? I'm just wondering. I overestimated that whole smacking someone that was minding their fucking business on stage. So he had, he wasn't minding this fucking business, but we're not going to go into that. We're not going to reap right history. Niggas rewrite history a lot. Niggas was not minding their business. Well, he, I mean, he was talking about everyone, but he was doing his job. But you, come on. We already had the he didn't say come up here and fight me. At the end of the day. we already had this conversation about the history between him, Will, and Jada, and why that joke specifically, we already had this conversation 50 times.
Starting point is 00:31:50 So this isn't about that. What I'm saying is if somebody has a spotless career to the point where they didn't even cuss in their rap music, they're like they literally could have been a fucking Disney star, a spotless career. They make one big fuck up on a big stage. You're sent up here saying, oh my God, celebrities don't have to deal with the consequences of their actions. How do he not have to deal with the consequences of his actions?
Starting point is 00:32:09 Because he was able to release a box office smash and sell of a billion in sales in a week. Because what he did was not that horrific. You literally said there and say that people get smacked every day. That's my point to you. It wasn't that horrific. So why are we getting this whole redemption? No, I get what you're saying.
Starting point is 00:32:22 He's saying, oh, celebrities don't have to deal with the consequences of their actions. You don't think that he's faced enough consequences for that little ass action? What's he faced? What do you think that? What is he faced? He just can't go to the Oscars for a couple years. Okay. No, like, for real, though, what has he been?
Starting point is 00:32:36 Bro, he was in the fucking news headlines for months. His own peers were... He's been in... Will Smith. He's in the news headlines every other month. Okay. When Jayne was fucking August
Starting point is 00:32:46 South Sina, he was in the headlines. When they sat down at the red table, he was in the headlines. That's who Will Smith is. He's one of the biggest stars we have. He's going to be in the headlines. My thing is, don't give me this fake redemption song and dance shit when you just slap somebody.
Starting point is 00:33:00 It's like, come on, bro. Like, I get it. You slapped him. You shouldn't have. That was corny. We all agreed to that. You shouldn't slap Chris Rock. That was whack.
Starting point is 00:33:06 But we ain't say, yo, Will, get out of here. You canceled. And I also don't want him to do like an onyx remake and double down on the smack. Like just neither of those options. Nah, but he said God opens a window when the devil closes the door. Believe me, they tried to bleed Will Smith. In the rear view, I see adversity was the gift. To lift me higher, gifts require faith.
Starting point is 00:33:31 Ducking all accountability. I was the first person on this pod to come up and say how excited I was when he did the men and black shit at Coachella. That was cool. We all love Will Smith. We can just see. That was great. That was tight. This is not a specific thing with Will.
Starting point is 00:33:46 We have just seen this same exact play happen in PR history nonstop. And it's getting annoying in play. Like when Bieber did it. It's corny. It's corny. Reves too. Like one of my favorite albums. It's a fucking amazing album.
Starting point is 00:33:59 But they painted a cross on his chest for the album cover. It's like come the fuck on. Like what are we doing here? Yeah. At least, yo, I'll give Beavs even more credit though, because he did the corny Christian route. But at least he did a roast and then went up there. Yeah, true.
Starting point is 00:34:14 After the roast was like, I'm a Christian now. You guys can't say anything bad about me. Anything I've ever done bad. Don't speak to me. If Will did a roast? Will needs to get roasted. That like, to me, I... At least there's some accountability.
Starting point is 00:34:26 And you know who has to host it? Chris Rock. Chris Rock. They got to close it. Chris Rock has to host the roast. And you know what's funny? If the two of them probably had a conversation, I think Chris Rock would be down for that with no hard feelings.
Starting point is 00:34:38 They already said before that Will was reaching out, reaching out, reaching out, trying to get in touch with Chris. Chris don't want nothing to do with him. No, Chris don't want to have a conversation about hearing. He's sorry. He fucked up. Yeah, I don't even fuck about that conversation. Let me go on stage and roast your ass in front of millions of people, though. Let me go up there and pan fry your ass and then we cool again.
Starting point is 00:34:54 And matter of fact, when Chris Rock did his live Netflix show, most of the response was he took it way too far. He just kept calling them bitches. Like, that was, how could you do that to the Smiths? Just smacked him on stage. She can't call him a bitch for doing a bitch move. Right. He was calling her a bitch, I think. That's what people were complaining.
Starting point is 00:35:14 No, he was going, I mean, I think he probably called Jada bitch too. But he was mainly calling Will a bitch. The backlash was for calling Jada a bitch. That's what the backlash was for. Yeah, I think I do remember being able. But either way, the BET Awards was very, and then let's get to the horrendous part of the night. Honor and Usher. Now.
Starting point is 00:35:36 What didn't you like about this? I'm going to get to it. How much time you got? Usher is by far one of the most talented artists that we have ever had and probably will ever have. I think that's solidified. We know that. So when they said they were honoring Usher, I was like, and I think we talked about it like, damn, like, you got to really get motherfuckers that could perform. If you're going to honor somebody like Usher, a great performance as he is, you got to have people up there that,
Starting point is 00:36:07 going to really like do it justice. So they get into the honoring of usher and the first nigga we see is Childish Gambino and a pajama set like he's in Cabo. That is definitely a resort dinner outfit for sure. Don't do that. Don't do what. It's a great outfit. No, it's not.
Starting point is 00:36:29 All right, never mind. Actually, you know what? I'll take that back. It's not a bad outfit. It's a bad outfit if you're honoring another man. You can't. You don't want to all one. You can't be up there with no
Starting point is 00:36:41 motherfucking window curtains on and your feet out honoring a man. You can't, you can't do that. This is the same shit he went to the- Why not? This is the same shit he went to the BET Awards in. He had just presented an award in that outfit.
Starting point is 00:36:56 This nigga, listen, Donald Glover. Should have brought an overnight bag? Donald Glover is one of the most talented, most creative people we have. There's no doubt about that. I think he's from the same cloth as a Jamie Fox. like he is one of those type of talented people. Love Donald Glover.
Starting point is 00:37:13 But you cannot honor another man and we can see through your clothes. All right, so the issue was the fit, not the actual song to perform. No, it was the fit. Look at him. It's a good fit. Well, I'm gonna.
Starting point is 00:37:25 It's a good fit. Not for this. If this nigga was about to go have fucking lunch in fucking Mexico, he looks amazing. Okay, but you don't think Usher, especially in his early days. Usher didn't want to see Donald Glover.
Starting point is 00:37:36 She wore some questionable things of that era. Usher, he never was on stage with his feet out. Well, to be fair. The My Way video. Show me Usher with his foot. I was young, but I remember that era of Usher. I don't give a fuck what you're saying. Show me Usher on stage with his feet out.
Starting point is 00:37:52 Was received very well on how Usher was dressing during the My Way era. Show me Usher on stage with his feet out. I mean, he never wore a shirt. What I will say is that looking at the production of what they, I doubt that it was his idea to wear that. No. No, the feedout was definitely his idea. I think. that that was a last minute edition
Starting point is 00:38:09 when Donald Glover walking the building. I don't think so because Kiki also had white on. He has white on in the blue lights. The dancers have that was on purpose. They told him to wear white.
Starting point is 00:38:20 Like I can look like the creative director told him to wear white. So that means put on fucking linen with no drawers? Who said he got no drawers on? That's wild. That's wild. That's wild.
Starting point is 00:38:30 That I peeped. That I peeped. I was watching my television. What the fuck you mean? I peeped. I mean, you got crazy. You act like I walked in his dressing room and opened the door like,
Starting point is 00:38:37 Yo, what you wearing? I'm watching my television. The first person we see is Donald Glover with linen on his feet out. Okay, fair enough. And he did his favorite spin move, the Donald Glover spin. Kiki Palmer, does that not make sense to you? I get it. I get it.
Starting point is 00:38:51 But Kiki Palmer wasn't supposed to be up the honor or not sure. Yeah, but we know why she is. I just said I get it. But come on, man. I think it would have been better if someone else was to do it and they brought Kiki on stage to dance. Kiki should not have been singing. I kind of feel like if we're starting with childish, we should go right to Sierra. Like, we should get right to the shits.
Starting point is 00:39:13 Yeah. Sierra would have been perfect for this. I know she's... Sierra just had a baby or is having a baby. I know, but I'm just saying hypothetically, if someone's honoring Usher, Sierra's like the first person in my head. Yeah. Victoria Monet came out.
Starting point is 00:39:26 Makes sense to me. Makes a lot of sense. Amazing. Tiana Taylor came out. Dancer? Makes a lot of sense to me. And I like the whole spin on having the women. Honor Usher because, you know, Usher has had his residency and he's been serenating the women.
Starting point is 00:39:44 And I get that whole spin on it. Cocoa Jones was even great. Perfect. Great. But I just think when you talk about honor and Usher and this is what you come up with, I think that it speaks to the lack of options that we have right now in the music industry. Well, you're saying a lack of options, but you've literally said everybody but Kiki Palmer and Childish Gamb. Bito did amazing. She did fucking amazing.
Starting point is 00:40:09 You need to go watch that performance again. She did, Chloe didn't see. Chloe surprised me. I like her and I think she's extremely talented. She's a great performer. But I wouldn't think off RIP, Chloe would be the one to honor usher. And I'm saying, I was surprised. I know how talented Chloe is. We talked about honoring usher. I was like, all right,
Starting point is 00:40:26 that's not who I would think, but she did great. Okay, Maul, who else would you have preferred to see you do this? Because if we're doing all women, then they pick the right, outside of Kiki, they pick the right women if you're doing all women. Yeah, listen, Tiana, like I said, Tiana Victoria Monet, who I think is a superstar, Chloe did her thing, Cocoa Jones sounded great,
Starting point is 00:40:44 she looked great, I get it, but I just think that overall there is a lack of, like, Usher literally has either no successors. He does not. Or no peers. Outside of Chris. From the women's side? From the women's side, it's tough.
Starting point is 00:41:02 I mean, you know, just period. Well, they had to do women because he has no male peers, and the one male peer that he does have Chris, they don't fuck with each other. So what do you do? It's tough, man. Like having Tenache up there makes no sense
Starting point is 00:41:17 to me. And Tanase she's somebody that I think that you know, we've given a lot of slack over the years but Tanashi, she's talented. She's very talented. She's a very talented. Especially on the day. But we're talking about, we're talking by honoring Usher Raymond. So you keep saying who wouldn't be your first pick? We're asking
Starting point is 00:41:33 you who would be your first pick? I said mine. If y'all. Sierra would be my first. Obviously, Sierra's pregnant. So, or you just had a baby. Obviously, Tiana Taylor, they got that right. Victoria Monet, I think they got that right,
Starting point is 00:41:46 even though she's, quote, unquote, considered new artists, but even though Victoria's been in the industry for years. I would like to see her. Sing? Okay. I would like to see her perform. If we're going to do an all-female set. Her doing you got it bad would have been kind of hard.
Starting point is 00:42:03 Playing the guitar? Yes. Yes. Or let it burn. She would smoke, let it burn. To be fair, her was just on his Super Bowl set, so her only got so much usher in her. Who else?
Starting point is 00:42:18 We're doing just women, right? I mean, you can do men if you can find them. I mean, your favorite artist, Bruno Mars. Where was he at? He'd be great, but he owes a lot of people, a lot of money. Everybody said they. So he needs to perform. They're saying that they got Bruno, like in handcuffs in Vegas.
Starting point is 00:42:32 Like, they're not letting him go. He's tied to a blackjack table. He can't go anywhere. He's been going in Vegas going crazy. That's been the rumor for a long time. But like somebody like Bruno Mars would have been dope. I think Neo, if we're allowed to do male singers. Neo would have been dope.
Starting point is 00:42:46 Okay. I mean, we got to, it's just. Um, O'Maryon, if we're doing men. Oh, wait. I agree. I agree. I agree. I agree.
Starting point is 00:42:54 Y'all don't agree. I do agree. If O'Maryon would have came out there and started dancing to honor us, you niggas would have had that nigger in 30,000 memes in two minutes. Yes, but it doesn't matter. It doesn't make. Okay, that might be true, but I still think, O'Maryon could do a great, especially on the dancing side.
Starting point is 00:43:07 Amaria could dance. He could sing. Well, he's talented. But honoring Usher, y'all would have killed him for that, January. Not really, though, because Omarian was coming on, was coming up in the era when Usher was his strongest. Like, that was, they used to call Omari and Lil Usher. Like, Omarian, Chris Brown, like, when they were coming up, obviously Chris went farther. But when they were coming up, like, they compared him to Usher.
Starting point is 00:43:27 So that wouldn't have surprised me now. Well, any male artist that sings and dances well, they're going to compare it to somebody like Usher, like Usher, because Usher is arguably one of the greatest. Like so it is what it is But I just Amarian, I get it But I don't I think that would have been more of A joke than anything
Starting point is 00:43:46 I don't think people would have took Amari I don't think people would have took Amari in serious I don't know man I think so I don't know All right what about Mario Would he be taking serious? Yes
Starting point is 00:43:58 I think he would Mario should have been up there Bieber should have been up there Who Bieber that's his guy B. B. B. B. B. B.A. What's the name of this award show? Yeah, Bieber might have made since.
Starting point is 00:44:10 Matt, Black. What did Gambino said? Him and Sam Smith had the same amount of BETT Awards. No, no. Sam Smith has more BETT Awards. Yeah. Yeah, but Sam Smith released a Black Classic. His first album is really, really, really, really, really good. There's not, like, not even a questionable skip.
Starting point is 00:44:28 Like, every single record. Listen, I don't care. But they were calling him the female Adele at that time. Then we realized we couldn't you. They were calling him to female Adele? When that first album came out? They was calling him the female Adele. Yeah, but now I don't know which.
Starting point is 00:44:41 They were called him the male Adel, baby. Now he's that. But because at that time, never mind. How did we get through June? How did we get through June? Listen, I don't care what color Sam's from Fis. The boy can sing. The boy can sing.
Starting point is 00:44:55 The boy can sing. Yeah, the boy's bad. Well, they can sing really well. When does he identify? That's why I was trying to. They can sing. They can sing very. He identifies as they now?
Starting point is 00:45:05 Yes. Yeah. That's what I was trying to say. They were calling Sam Smith the they a dough. That's what I was trying to get at it. He wasn't out when they released that out. When he released that album, everybody thought, well, nope, we thought he was gay, but he wasn't out when he released that album.
Starting point is 00:45:18 I thought he was always gay. I just thought he wasn't this. He wasn't they. Yeah. All right, I'm going ahead and say it, man. Fuck you. No, don't do it. Let's just move on.
Starting point is 00:45:28 You know what? You know, Craig David would have been great. We're talking about the Beatty Award. Damn, where was John B? Word. You know, Craig David. You know, if they didn't want Craig David out there to honor us your man, come, like, what are we doing here? What's happening?
Starting point is 00:45:41 Well, I'm waiting for y'all's set list. Like, that's what I'm waiting for y'all's set lists. Well, we just need to be in a couple people. I mean, we're leaving out somebody. I wasn't mad at, I was like I said, Chloe, Tiana, Victoria, Coco. I wasn't mad at them. You said we're leaving somebody out. We're leaving out.
Starting point is 00:45:54 We're leaving out a huge person, but. Yes. On purpose. Yeah. Great songs. If. Yeah, that would have made sense. There wasn't everything.
Starting point is 00:46:04 Yeah, that would make total. sense. Tray songs can't perform. You just said have her up there. Her can't dance either. That's why I said you got it bad. Her can play seven instruments though. Okay, but that's not the point.
Starting point is 00:46:17 That's a performer. Singing is part of performing. We're doing like if we're doing usher, you want someone that can dance. Yeah, exactly my point. I'm just saying, like, is it keeping it real? What?
Starting point is 00:46:34 We keep it real? What we doing? We got all this shit. We can't go to L.A. We can't go to Virginia. Yeah, I need it. Man, listen, man. Y'all see, that's the problem, man.
Starting point is 00:46:41 Niggas is nobody just kick it real. I'm just trying to kick it real. I ain't got no problem with nobody. Just kicking it real. That's all. All right. So, this is why Reddit is insane. Because I was just typing in like Usher, similar artists,
Starting point is 00:46:51 just in case we forgot any. And this Reddit thread, what are some good R&B artists with strong vocals just like Usher? First one. Shot A and Majid Jordan. This is why I don't go on Reddit. This is why I don't go on Reddit. This is why I don't go on Reddit.
Starting point is 00:47:06 This is why I don't go on Reddit. But shit like that. Because anybody can just go in there and say, whatever they want to think. That's going to be a joke. That's hilarious. But if they're serious. No, but why I don't think they're joking is,
Starting point is 00:47:14 it's not like they just put a bunch of, like, Shadeh. Yeah. No, but I get why someone would say that legendary status. And I love Majid, but, when you hear Usher, you hear Majid? Yeah. Space between.
Starting point is 00:47:28 Oh, what about, what about, what about Tyrese? He was in the audience. I was literally just about to say this next thing. Oh, that was in a Mowayway video together. They, they, they was like, you know, enemies in a Moway video. That would have been a fun little. He was in the front.
Starting point is 00:47:38 Roe singing. Yeah, like, well, it was all women. Like, I mean, I mean, if you're going
Starting point is 00:47:42 to have Donald Glover with a linen and have his feet out, at that point, we can get anybody to come up here and do their thing. Like, fuck.
Starting point is 00:47:48 Well, who knows if Tyrese can still sing? A lot of these people probably, who knows if Tyrese can still, you just sat here and said, if this nigga wasn't in trouble, uh, Tray songs.
Starting point is 00:47:57 What I'm, you miss, you think that Tray song sings better than Tyrese? I don't go. What is the last time you heard Tyree saying? I don't care.
Starting point is 00:48:03 Okay. Okay. So let me clarify Because that, you're not putting that on my jacket Ain't no way that Tray Song sings better than Tyrese That's not what I'm saying. What I'm saying is over time
Starting point is 00:48:14 Some people's vocals declined And they start declining performances. Tyree's vocals ain't declined. When's the last time you heard him sing? How do you know that? People's... On Good Morning America When Genuine was on MDMA,
Starting point is 00:48:29 Trumes, ketamine. Tyrese was up to the moment. That was like 10 years ago. That's all right. Tyrese was smoking it though. It was like 10 years ago. That's all right. Why do y'all think Mariah turns down so many performances?
Starting point is 00:48:40 Because she waits till Christmas. Because she's Santa Claus now. Santa Claus only comes out one time of the year. Mariah's voice is not what it used to be. I will say, again, if they added males, having Tyrese, genuine and tank together would have been crazy for Usher. Yeah. Yeah, that would be great.
Starting point is 00:48:55 They don't like each other, don't. They break up. Yeah. Which I get. That's a weird crew. Yeah, but see, all these niggas get back together, they just watch the Will Smith performance. Everybody had come together
Starting point is 00:49:06 They'll realize that sometimes you have to Listen man You have to dance in the rain The heavy cross to bear You know what I mean? You shouldn't have been up there High Genuine So basically you feel like Kiki
Starting point is 00:49:14 You feel like Kiki Tanase And Childish Shouldn't have been up there You're cool with Victoria Chloe and Coco and Tijuana Yeah that was cool with that I wasn't mad at that
Starting point is 00:49:25 Tiana obviously She's a hell of a performer Was she dressed like Michael Jackson I know right? No she was dressed like Usher It's like Young Usher Which is Michael They all dressed like Michelle.
Starting point is 00:49:34 Yeah. She was just... It looked more like straight Michael than it did. But that's how Usher used to dress. Actually, it was Janet that she was dressed like, but... She was dressed like Usher. I know. I thought it was the Janet and I Get Lonely video.
Starting point is 00:49:48 Tiana. What's about Tiana? Yeah, that's what I'm talking about. Tiana. She's, she's dressed like Usher. She's not dressed like Janet. Okay, well, Usher was dressed like them, so I don't think when I see a Michael Jackson or Janet Jackson fit that it's Usher.
Starting point is 00:49:59 Even at the Usher performance. Okay. Well, I just, I feel like... They all got it from Mike. No matter what you're saying, they all got it from Mike. Of course. But I'm just saying I'm sure when she went, she went to dress like Usher. She's dressed like Usher. Just like, she's dressed like Beyonce and the bad girl.
Starting point is 00:50:13 They were honoring the bad girl performance that they had did either at the BTs or the Grammys with Beyonce and Usher. Respectfully to both these women, I feel bad for all the teenagers going through puberty that were watching this with their parents. Yeah, what's up with you guys? Crazy Chubb. You were bricked up watching this.
Starting point is 00:50:32 What? Especially the flip. The flip clip was a rock. He got in the 69. He got to get out the house won. If anything about this performance had you turned on, like, you got to get a What? They kept cut.
Starting point is 00:50:46 Yeah, no, that's the cops because mall's crazy. Sorry. That's bang bro's calling you. Your subscription. Your bill is, dude. I'm sorry. Haven got declined? Yeah, like how your lap.
Starting point is 00:50:57 Camera work on this isn't. Come on. That didn't do anything for you? No. Ooh, that's a good shot. Come on. Wait, we can run that back. I'm not, you thought I was in the house like, ooh.
Starting point is 00:51:06 Yeah. No, I wasn't. Definitely not. You said ooh-oo when Childs gave me to have draws on. I thought maybe this would redeem it. No, I said boo. Boo! I was booing at the fucking TV, man.
Starting point is 00:51:17 Get this thing off my screen, man. They look amazing. It's the flip. Oh, get the flip. Oh, yes. Camera work nuts. Yeah. Whoever was the DP for this.
Starting point is 00:51:30 They smoked it. Amen. Did Victoria keep playing with Tiana like that? No. Tiana keep playing Victoria like that. Victoria is bout that, about that. No, she ain't. Yes, she is.
Starting point is 00:51:42 Tiana's married with children. So was Tiana. Oh, I mean. She's a single woman. Everybody knows. No, Victoria is like a real, like a real. She's bisexual? Yeah, it's rumored.
Starting point is 00:51:56 I mean, in her music. Damn, well, you got the camera on me, but it's rumored that her and Kaylani used to date. Oh, I never heard that. Yeah. But I mean, you can listen to her music. Yeah, half her songs are about women. Victoria and Kalani. That's a nice combo right there.
Starting point is 00:52:10 I might pay to see that. Yeah. And I'm the horny one. Get the chow to that one. The two of them dancing. They would dance. I'm just told, she's my women that actually dated and fucking slept together. You know Tiana bed after the show.
Starting point is 00:52:22 Allegedly. Why allegedly? That's amazing. Hopefully. Hopefully. Promote that. It's one of those rumors you wish. Prayfully.
Starting point is 00:52:30 Prayfully, that happened. Prayerfully, it's open. I hope they're on good terms still. Yeah, like I hope they have each other's fucking numbers. Well, you guys don't agree with the Usher tribute. Okay, I kind of. No, hold on, but that ain't over. Didn't Usher get his ass up there?
Starting point is 00:52:43 And we couldn't even hear what he was saying because he started talking so crazy. They blacked out his whole speech. Usher said one motherfucker and then it was like, blank. I was like, yo, I wanted him get his shit off. He only forgot to unmute that. But then they posted online because people was recording average and audience. They posted what he was saying. It was a good speech.
Starting point is 00:53:02 It was emotional as him being a father now and him not having his father in his life growing up. So he kind of just was speaking to that about that, not stopping him from chasing and achieving his goals and things like that. This being a year of the fathers and that men need to be there for their kids, men need to step up and, you know, lead their families and things like that. So it was a good speech. Usher gave a good speech. I just wish we would have heard it in real time. Why are we acting like we don't know that we curse? Why is BT Black, like completely just cut the audio because somebody is cursing?
Starting point is 00:53:35 Because it's on TV. Add money. You know what these kids are watching, DeMaris? It's on T. It doesn't, they'll get fine. It's not up to them. Sometimes I get confused when I'm watching cable and people curse in like shows. You can say bitch.
Starting point is 00:53:48 You can't say the other curse words. But you can say bitch. If you watch the performance, they were saying bitch. Yeah, I don't know. Yeah. But what's wrong with saying fuck. You can't say nigger. Fuck.
Starting point is 00:53:57 Shit. Can't say nigger. In 03 on the show. Chappelle show. They were saying it. I was going to say technically, you can say anything you want. The reason why they don't is because it's more about the ads and dollars that come with it and making it more palatable. The, what is it, the FEC? I was going to say, I think that's radio. You're a lot of to say what and show whatever you want. I promise you, if you blur out a motherfucker, it's not going to, like, hinder my thought of going to get a sprite or not. I promise you.
Starting point is 00:54:24 But you're not a young developing mind. And that would, that would traumatize. Oh, I've heard these young developing minds and how they talk to each other. Worse than how he's. Oh my God. Worse than that. Way worse than that. I can promise you that. Well, how do you guys feel about the winners?
Starting point is 00:54:40 It was four of them that we know about? No, it was it? They aired four. Michael won an album of the year. Michael who? Oh, Killer Mike, yes. Yeah, good speech too. He went out on a great speech.
Starting point is 00:54:48 He won an album of the year. Shout out the Killer Mike. CISO won Best Female R&B Pop Artist. Makes sense. Get that best male R&B went to Usher. That makes sense. But no, it doesn't make sense. because why did they combine R&B and pop?
Starting point is 00:55:02 They're two completely different genres. R&B is popular music. But you know that's not what they mean. Wait, Kanye and Taiwan won best group? Yeah. They were getting risky. I didn't even see that. Well, they didn't have much competition.
Starting point is 00:55:19 That is a weak line out. Jesus. Best collaboration. Went to Little Dirk. All my life. All my life. Didn't they get it last year? They're going to be.
Starting point is 00:55:30 That song came out in like 2017. It's pre-pandemate. Why is this song still on the charts? I don't know, man. Best female hip-hop artist went to Nikki. Makes sense. Best male hip-hop artist went to... Relax.
Starting point is 00:55:45 Best new artist went to... Kendrick Lamar. Best new artist went to Tyler. Now, the internet was in a frenzy about that. They feel like sexy red was robbed. And they are wrong. They're wrong. I just don't think people...
Starting point is 00:56:00 understand how big water was to the world. I get it with Sexy Red and the impact that she's had on the culture. Sexy Red has had a crazy impact, a huge impact for sure. She's had a great year. There's no denying that. That water is like a- That water record was one of the biggest records in the world. So once in a decade record.
Starting point is 00:56:22 Yeah, like that record is so big, I'd never want to hear it again. That song is so good, but they, you couldn't escape it to the point that it got annoyed. Yeah. And that song itself is amazing. It's not even annoying. They just played it so much. Yeah. What's the last time y'all felt like that about a record?
Starting point is 00:56:37 It's so big that I'm in here. It's so big it became annoying. Oh, man. Hmm. Let me see. That's a good question. I would just have to. Oh, God, I hated despisito.
Starting point is 00:56:49 Which was it? Despacito. Oh, yeah. You couldn't escape that one. God's playing got annoying to me after a while. I don't think it was as big as well. water, but it got annoying to me after a while. Blinding lights never got old for me.
Starting point is 00:57:06 Maybe just because I love the weekend. Flashing lights. By Kanye? Yeah. I still want to hear. I'm talking about when it happened. That got to be with you by Mary J. Blage. But this is a, listen, we don't have to go through the names of songs.
Starting point is 00:57:22 This is a great thing to have, though. Yeah. It's great to have a song that's so big and so huge that people don't want to hear it no more. Because that means we've heard this shit so. many times. We love it. We like it. Great video. You know, the challenge was crazy on social media. Everybody, we get it. I just don't care to hear, I just don't care to ever hear that record again. Unless Tyler's performing it and I'm at the show. Then it's, okay, cool. And then she performed. Did you guys like Tyler's performance? Yeah. I didn't even see her
Starting point is 00:57:52 performance. She performed with a skillet bang and Donna. I did see it. Yes, yes, yes. I did see it. I swear this isn't, I don't have a thing with Bruno Mars, but uptown funk eventually. Oh, God, yeah. Was amazing when it came out, solidified, hit record forever. But they just played it way too fucking much everywhere. Uptown Funk might have been the last time that I felt that way. Farrell Happy. Oh, Farrell Happy.
Starting point is 00:58:16 Yo, when that song came out, I was obsessed with the video. It was incredible. I overplayed that myself. Gave that shit three weeks. Yeah, I don't have. I was mad unhappy. I don't ever want to hear that again. They said Faroe Happy is scaring the hose music.
Starting point is 00:58:30 Peaches was one of those I never got there with peaches I still like peaches God that shit got so annoying But pears wasn't as big as water though It wasn't it was big but it wasn't that big Yeah not water They remixed it
Starting point is 00:58:46 They fucking put Daniel Caesar and Givion on the remix I think the ability to put music on Instagram now is what's really exhausting me from songs Because every time I open my fucking phone You heard water Like it's not just like on the radio or at the parties or in the, you couldn't even open your phone now without hearing whatever hit song is bigger.
Starting point is 00:59:09 So I feel like it brings that fatigue on so much quicker. Yeah. You know what's one that could have been in that category? The same loop. But never did. Rihanna, we found love. You could play that anywhere. That's just bang.
Starting point is 00:59:19 And I'll still love it. Yeah. But that could be up there. I could see someone hating that song. Oh, God. I love that song. Ed Shear and Divide started to get on my nerves a little bit. Thrift shop.
Starting point is 00:59:28 I mean, I never liked it to begin with. but thrift shop started to annoy. I didn't. What song was thrift shop? Macklemore. McLeod. Peege sing it. I can't.
Starting point is 00:59:40 I don't remember. We're gonna drop some cash. I got $20 in my pocket. That sounds like a song you were walking in a bar and see Pete dancing to. Like, yo, Pee just dancing to fucking thrift shop. Oh, and gangam style? I mean, I never. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:59:55 I was never just like. I don't know where you'd be hanging out of where. Maybe, yeah. That's, that just don't know. Every function, no? Did you guys feel that way about blurred lines? I never did. I never got tired of blurred lines, but I can see somebody getting tired of blurred lines.
Starting point is 01:00:09 Like the Marvigay Estate? I don't even hear that shit now. Marblee Gay Estate was sick of that shit. Said, all, enough is enough. Do you guys feel like they got the winners right? For the most part. Yeah, I don't know. Most part, they got it right.
Starting point is 01:00:21 I think the categories was kind of easy to figure out. Yeah, it's good to me. Yeah, who the winners were. Yeah. But yeah, BT, I don't. Times, me and you is on the gospel? Gospel inspirational Word.
Starting point is 01:00:36 Oh, she's about Jesus. Wait, I was singing that. Oh, me and you is about the Lord? Inspirational. Only me. No, it's not. I promise you it was not. Yes, it is.
Starting point is 01:00:47 No, it's not. All right, I'm going to read the lyrics. Hold on. That record is not about the Lord. What are we talking about right now? What she said, me and you, the you is God. No, it's not.
Starting point is 01:00:58 I heard that song. plenty of times. Oh, no. Oh, yeah, it is about, it's about the Lord. Yeah, it's about him and that. Yeah, it must mean I'm at the door like heaven's gate. Faith to believe you, faith to receive you. Come on, what you received?
Starting point is 01:01:12 Give me one break. I need faith, faith to believe you, faith to receive you. Give me something I'm lacking. I don't need nothing. You are my everything. Yeah. Make me your matter.
Starting point is 01:01:20 Make me your substance. Make me your person. Yeah. Every, and I don't mean this in bad way, but every generic R&B song with lyrics, you could interpret as your significant other God your friend, some chicky fucking. The lady at Chick-fil-A.
Starting point is 01:01:33 Word. Give me some faith. Because Sunday you don't even, you're not even open. Telling the lady at Chick-fil-A to make me yours is crazy. You're like, yeah, the special. Just make me yours, all right?
Starting point is 01:01:43 For real. I'm here for you. Use me. Like, what? Chick-fil-A? Nah. They're a very Christian-based organization. Listen, man, the BETT Awards,
Starting point is 01:01:54 I ain't gonna lie. I'm cool. Wait, wait, wait, wait. It's not the awards, though. It's the talent. There's not a lot of talent. So let's just shut down the BT Awards for a few years. Wait, look what won the best movie?
Starting point is 01:02:05 The Bob Marley. That's out? Is it out? It won't. Oh, I thought that shit was like coming out next time. It beat the Little Mermaid. Are you fucking? Fuck that.
Starting point is 01:02:16 It beat American fiction. American fiction is one of the, like, that's top three film that came out last year. American fiction was like all over the- It beat Spider-Man across the Spider-verse. All right. I'm done. I mean, American fiction. I got to see One Love Tonight.
Starting point is 01:02:30 American fiction is good. Julian, yes, is your personality and a fucking movie? It's not that great. It's amazing, but it's not the movie of the year. Better than any one of these. Who won't best act? It's not better than Loma, mate.
Starting point is 01:02:41 Oh, Denzel. Damn, they really took a risk on that one. Did he even act? What movie came up? Equalizer 3. Oh, yeah, I guess that makes that. Coleman Domingo should have won. Personally.
Starting point is 01:02:53 Actress, Regina King. Okay. Coleman Domingo should have won an actress whatever Angela Bassett's in she's the best actress so she should have won that too the young star
Starting point is 01:03:05 the nepotism award Watch your mouth You look who won Watch your mouth But the rest of these aren't Children stars Like
Starting point is 01:03:15 Stars of children I mean Oh No I mean That's why You know Northwest will get an extra At a close one versus whoever
Starting point is 01:03:24 Kid this year That's why that's not fair And I'm not being a whole venger Blue Ivy Carter was dancing every single night on a world tour with Beyonce. So yes, nepotism, but it's not like she was just in the booth waving to the paparazzi.
Starting point is 01:03:36 Yeah. She was dancing with some of the biggest dancers in the world. No, she, yeah. It's a great opportunity. I can't speak to the rest of the list. There's mad people who have famous parents who don't dance like Blue Ivy and wouldn't be able to get on stage in front of fucking hundreds of thousands of people and go off and dance next to amazing dancers and do full-out choreography.
Starting point is 01:03:55 Very true. It's the same thing when people say Kim's only famous because of her sex tape. and it's like it's mad bitches with sex tapes and they ain't him. So I just don't. Crazy comparison right now. I totally see what you're saying, but like. It is a crazy. But it's just like, yes, people do get opportunities,
Starting point is 01:04:09 but people get opportunities every day and fumble them. Mad people get opportunities and fumble them. Just because you're giving an opportunity doesn't mean that you're going to be a star. So let's give people the credit that's due to them. And I'm not familiar with the rest of that list. So. I love Van Van Van Van Van. Van Van van was the cutest.
Starting point is 01:04:24 She's a very cute little girl. VET, we love y'all. But we could do without the BT Awards for a few years. All right. That's hate. That's hate. Yeah, I hate the show. All right, well.
Starting point is 01:04:37 But that's not the BET Awards' fault. And I like the fact that- I'm not saying it's their fault, but it's like, all right, let the talent pool kind of, like, catch up a little bit and let these artists develop. And then we can come back in maybe three years and see what we got. But this shit, to do this every year, and this is the shit we put in forth, like Gloverill and all and all. We love them. We love sexy red, but we don't need to see them
Starting point is 01:04:59 performing. That's not fair. It's not fair. People want to see sexy red perform. If I'm put, not me, but I don't dictate the entire demographic. Oh, no, I'm good. I like that. You wanted to see it. We're plenty of people wanted to see sexy red. If you're putting together a lineup, you want to hit every bit of age and demographic. There is a huge demographic that wants to see sexy red perform at the BET. They said sexy red got the loudest, like, applause. Then she had bigger applause than any other performer in the crowd of her peers.
Starting point is 01:05:29 So yes, people want to see sexy red. Listen, I agree. We've already had to plant conversation and CIA and all. Yeah, you know where I stand. I'm saying I understand her being on the- Listen, it's okay to just be honest. That's not BET award level talent. It's not.
Starting point is 01:05:47 It's just not. The performance is not. Like, you can put all the production on stage and have, it's just not. We're sitting there looking at it like, okay, I'm happy for sexy red. I'm glad that she has a career and she's able to, you know, make money and take care of a family and live a life that she wants to live. I'm not mad at that. But when we talk about putting this type of talent on a stage like the BET Awards, I'm just thinking that there's a certain level of talent that we're reserving for that.
Starting point is 01:06:15 There's other awards, though. Is it Soul Train Awards? Why would she be on the Soul Train Awards, Mall? Why would she be on the BET Awards? Because she's the most popular female. I wasn't going to be the one to say it. Just because you're popular doesn't mean you need to be on the stage performing. And that's the problem.
Starting point is 01:06:32 But we just said during the new artist award, Tyler deserved it, but we understood the cultural impact that sexy red has had. So I see why people were upset that she didn't get the award over Tyler. So I think that means she should be performing, though. No, that doesn't. The cultural impact, sexy red is had. You can't see why she's performing at the BET Awards? I can't. I could see why.
Starting point is 01:06:53 Numbers, impact, image, everything. You haven't said anything about talent level yet. Oh, well, you're in the wrong business now. So you think, now I'm in the wrong business. Now I'm in the wrong business. No, she's not. I'm not saying she is.
Starting point is 01:07:07 I'm just saying now it's at a point where it may be more clear than ever that the talent pool, now we're looking at impressions online and following. Oh, I'm not arguing. We're getting away from the talent. We're too far away from the talent level. No, it's about the influence and the impact, but that's what's bringing. money. That's what's bringing money. You got to get a certain amount of views, a certain amount of
Starting point is 01:07:30 clicks. You got to do what I'm willing to bet that the views on this BET award show might have been some of the lowest views ever. That's every award show, period. They go down every year. So it speaks to the level of talent that you're trying to put on TV and people are not being fooled by it. It's like, oh, this is the sexy red. Like say somebody had never seen sexy red perform. They've seen her on social media. They've seen her on YouTube. They've seen videos, whatever. But now when you put her to perform and I'm sitting in my living room and I see it, I'm just like, I'm not impressed by that.
Starting point is 01:08:02 What do you guys think about Ice Spice's performance? Lackluster. What do you guys think about Meg's performance? I think she did great. But it's a difference. It's a reason why Meg is doing arenas and shit like that and selling that shit out. She's an actual performer.
Starting point is 01:08:19 She can actually perform. She has a certain level of talent. We don't disagree that there is a lack of, of talent with performances with this current pool that's here, we're just saying that's not what they're looking at for anymore. And I'm saying we need to start looking for that a little bit more. I'm not mad at giving people opportunity to touch the state. It's okay to be like, yo, listen, you're not there yet. But let's not act like at award shows, this is the first time that a quote unquote lack of talent has been performed. I'm not saying. That just has a lot of
Starting point is 01:08:49 I never said it's the first time. I'm just saying now it's, to me, it's more evident than it's ever been that we don't have a very large pool of talent right now. Glow really performs. She's talented. I think it was a good mixed bag. But I think Glow did a good job on her performance.
Starting point is 01:09:11 You don't think so? I think we could save a lot of this for the BT Hip Hop Awards, is what I'm saying. Okay. That I would understand. But that means that they would have. So, yes, so that was one complaint that I did see and I really do heavily agree with.
Starting point is 01:09:26 This should have been for the BT Hip Hop Awards and also there was not enough R&B present. I'm with that for sure. There should have been more R&B. If there was more R&B present, there would have been more talent present. There's some trash-ass R&B shit out here too. There is.
Starting point is 01:09:42 A lot of these niggas can't sing. You get these niggas out the studio without all the bells and whistles and these niggas sounds crazy. It's that, that has. happens. We know that. Yes. We know that. So I'm just saying like it's just we have to start. And again, I'm happy for the sexy reds and the glowrillas and the ice spices, Bronx legend. I'm happy for them. Like, I want them to have this opportunity to perform in front of the world. But my thing is
Starting point is 01:10:06 you also have to be at a certain level to be on certain stages is all I'm saying. Yeah. Your talent level has to be at a certain level. That's all. I'm not mad at them. I'm not hating on these women. I think it's dope. Get your bag. stream your fucking songs and sell your merch, sell your products, whatever. But let's make sure the talent level is at a certain, it just has to be at a certain level at all times, that's all. Did Ross make it to the BD Awards? No, actually, he was busy.
Starting point is 01:10:40 He was preoccupied? He was booked. He was booked and busy. They booked them. Yeah, no, he was booked and busy. Rick Ross, obviously, the video broke of Rick Ross in Vancouver at a, you know, at a show. And after his show, once he walked off stage, Rick Ross and his crew got into an altercation with some other festival goers, I guess. Well, reportedly, he walked out playing
Starting point is 01:11:09 not like us from his set. Yes. That's what's pop his whole shit off. When he finishes his set, walking off the stage, his DJ went into Not Like Us, which is an intentional thing. I don't think Ross had enough hits. Maybe. that like the DJ ran out of stuff. Yeah. So they figured go with... You're gonna win the crowd back? Yeah, go with the song
Starting point is 01:11:30 that everybody seems to be liking right now. Not knowing half the hell's angels were in the front row. I just think it's funny that... Not knowing you're in Canada. Well, that too. But like the biker gang was at whatever this festival was.
Starting point is 01:11:44 Like who else? Were they Ross fans? Maybe. I can see Ross having some biker fans. Absolutely. But the story is Ross got off stage. The record played and some gentlemen approached him and, you know, expressed their not liking the not like them.
Starting point is 01:12:01 Yeah, we don't like that. And they said that Ross responded in a way that was, you know, deemed to be disrespectful and, you know, you can imagine that. Ross is a shit talker. He's a slick talker. If somebody came up to Ross and asked him about a song, he's playing on the set, I could see Ross responding in a very slick. way. How do you think security allowed people to get to Ross that easily? Yeah, why was Ross that accessible? Yeah, it looks like he's in the crowd. I don't know. That was the question I asked when I saw the video. I didn't see enough security. Maybe Ross figured this is a festival. You know,
Starting point is 01:12:45 probably, obviously they'll have security at the event. It seems like Ross has one of his personal bodyguards there. But he probably figured, you know, it's the festival. It's not going to be in and out real quick. I don't need a huge security detail like that. And it just so happened that this altercation happened. But what does this mean, though? Because you've seen a lot of people react to it.
Starting point is 01:13:12 They're talking about those shit, Ross. He got pressed in Canada. Did Drake send the goons and all of this shit? I don't think Drake sent anybody, number one. Yeah, I understand that it was in Canada, but it was in Vancouver. It was in Vancouver. That's like Maine to Washington. Yeah, but not saying that Drake can't reach.
Starting point is 01:13:33 No, no, no. My point is Drake could reach anywhere on Earth. Right. So just because it was in Canada, I don't think that automatically means that Drake sent someone to Vancouver because Ross, where was Ross yesterday? Right. Like, it didn't have to be, if he was in Toronto, then I'd be like, all right, that kind of checks out. Yeah, it kind of feels like that might have been something in more direct correlation.
Starting point is 01:13:54 But Vancouver is just another city on the complete opposite side of Canada. So I don't put the same connection that people do. No, I think that this was just somebody that felt the way about something that Ross did at his set. Somebody that obviously had backstage access because I think one of the gentlemen is an artist himself. So they obviously had backstage access. access. And I think that this is a case of them having words and words turn into physicality. Like, I don't think that this has anything to do with Drake. I get why people are trying to paint it that way. And then when the post went up, Drake liked the post.
Starting point is 01:14:31 Which I, to me, was a little too petty. Like, don't tie, don't tie yourself. Nah, nah, nah, we can't do that. Why can't we do that? Because when they geters is parading and Crip Walk into Dema legend, I'm a pedophile, I I could sit at home in like a post. I could sit at home and like a post. All day was like a post. So you can't, you can't do that.
Starting point is 01:14:53 You can't say, oh, that's Teddy. That's no, no, no, no, no. See, this is what, no, no, no. No, no. But Drake, Drake knows his power and his reach and what it means for Drake to like a post. Yes, he does. Of Ross being beat up in Canada.
Starting point is 01:15:05 The same way that was intentional. I don't think it has anything to do with each other, but I know how the world thing. The same way Drake liking that post was intentional because he knew what people would say and not people would react to him liking it. is the same way Ross played that record and walked off stage. Why, that was intentional.
Starting point is 01:15:20 It's the same shit. Okay, you are right in that situation. You can't be mad at how I react to your intentions. You can't be mad at the way Drake reacts to the intentions of somebody doing something or in his direction. You can't, we can't do that. The thing with Drake, though, to
Starting point is 01:15:35 kind of where Roy's point is, it's now that Drake, by liking opposed, it means he's acknowledging it and agrees with that behavior, whatever. So in turn, it's pretty much retroactively a dog whistle for him to let people like, hey, if other people come here and do this, you have my permission to go out in attack. I'm not saying he's directly saying that by any means. Well, 40, but sure. Yeah. I'm like other people that are very close and have said this, but it's, it's evident that with while, while liking this, even though he probably will never speak on this
Starting point is 01:16:06 publicly or make any other reference to this incident, that alone makes other people like the gentleman that had the ponytail that threw the first punch and others from Canada to be like, oh, still on our side. Let's, we got the green light on everybody that plays that record in our city. That's the same way they stormed the Capitol because Trump. Yes, it's a, yeah, dog whistling is a very effective. I don't think lagging a post in Trump's actual speech, I'm saying never surrender. Same tactic.
Starting point is 01:16:31 Yeah, effectively it's the same tactic. Whatever. So, but. I just feel like the president of the United States just saying never surrender. Let's, let's go over there. It's a little more drastic. I was a little more direct. What else did he say?
Starting point is 01:16:43 I don't, I'm not doing this. Oh, yeah. That's standby, right? No, that's not what he said. He said that about the proud boys. That's not what you said. But anyway. Their time's coming.
Starting point is 01:16:52 So, yes, I do get how that looks if Drake likes the post. But again, you can't be mad at somebody for liking the post of somebody getting hands put on them or getting into altercation based off the fact that, okay, they probably said that you're playing this song. They ask you why are you playing that? And then you respond it in the way that you wanted to respond. At that point, it's just too, it's growing men having an altercation about something and disrespect is presented. this is how men respond to disrespect sometimes. Yeah. Listen, it happens.
Starting point is 01:17:19 I think it, above all, I think it was corning for Ross to end his set would not like us. Above, above everything that we're talking about below that. Y'all know how I feel about Ross, one of my favorite rappers. Do you have an alibi? Do you have an alibi?
Starting point is 01:17:33 Yeah. You were kind of vague with what you were doing the last few days. Where was you at? You got your hair down in Vancouver. You love Canada. I knew that was your fault. Vancouver?
Starting point is 01:17:43 Yeah. I've maybe been to Vancouver. to my entire life. I've never been. This week? No, definitely not this week. I promise you. I was nowhere near me. You went for the first time this week. Not at all. For Ross. There's nowhere near it. But, um, they put him all in a biker vest to throw us off. Ross got a, he got to wear this hell. This is an L for Ross. I've noticed he's been quieter than he usually is. No, he ain't quiet. He's laughing. He responded. No, I saw the laugh. He responded. Ross is way more vocal than a laugh. Yeah, but this is a, this is a
Starting point is 01:18:11 loss on, on, I never thought I would have seen somebody try to pop on Rick Ross like that. Never. Yeah, that is kind of wild. Like, seeing somebody take a swing at Rick Ross is something I thought I would never. What was that hip-hop was dead? Ross meme? Just that. Oh, I thought that would have been funnier.
Starting point is 01:18:26 Never mind. Like, so he got to wear this L. You can laugh about it. You know, it was just a little fist of cuffs, bottles being thrown, that type of shit. But to the bigger conversation of what does this mean moving forward, you know, artists going into Canada that seemed to support. that record what happens from there. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:18:51 Again, I don't think Drake had anything to do with this. But this was his response. Yeah. Vancouver was fun. You know what's funny? Drake is such a fucking conniving asshole. I can't look at Rick Ross's jet without thinking of the line when Drake said you wrap your jet every time because you share it with so many people. It's such a good thing.
Starting point is 01:19:14 And didn't it just get shot down? So that's a new one that he wrapped in Vancouver. Oh, it's such a good thing. One of them had like, yeah, issues. Yeah, I mean, thank God no one got hurt. But they had like an emergency landing. No, you said shot down or shut down? Shot down.
Starting point is 01:19:31 It didn't get shot down. Who is being traumatic? Didn't even Drake say that in one of his bars? That he shot the plane down? Anyway. A landing gear got stuck. Yeah. Not shot with the boy.
Starting point is 01:19:43 Shut the fuck up, Roy. You don't know who Drake has in TSA. That's the loss for Ross, though. That's a loss on his jacket. He took it out of it. It was weird. And then they laid your man out. When the security guy gets laid out, that's a tough look.
Starting point is 01:19:57 They laid you a man. No, I don't think that got knocked out with security. That was his DJ. No, his DJ got his chain took. Security got fucked up, too, though. But also, if you're going to ask my DJ to play a record that could get us in some heat, you got to protect me. If I'm your DJ and I'm just a DJ,
Starting point is 01:20:13 and then you're like, yo, you got to play a record that could get you in some trouble. Ross has to protect his DJ. He ain't get his activist as he was supposed to. No. Ross ain't throw no punches. He was supposed to get more active than that. It is possible that the DJ
Starting point is 01:20:26 made that executive decision on his own. No, he didn't. No, he didn't. I can't see. Let me tell you, let me promise you this, DeMaris. Ross knows every song that will be played on that stage. I can't see it. Without Ross being comfortable with it, I can't see it.
Starting point is 01:20:40 That's not a move the DJ makes. Maybe his DJ would play the disc Ross has to Drake, but no one would say anything. Yeah. And then you playing this record, it's like... Ross isn't on this record. Yeah, like, what is you? Like, again, that was intentional. So it's like, okay, when you start doing things like that, you got to be willing and
Starting point is 01:21:03 prepare for everything that comes behind that. Yeah, when you played it, you should have, like, squared up when you played it. And I believe the dudes that approached him, they probably opposed him like, yo, that's not cool, bro, like, playing that record here. Like, we're not doing that. And then I believe Ross, because he's a slick talker, he's a shit talker. He probably was like, who's going to stop me? Who going to do something about it?
Starting point is 01:21:22 And damn, ears on the floor. And then someone did something on the floor. And then now you're talking to somebody that, now you're talking to somebody that they get active. They're like, okay, we ready to shake in here. I just feel like Ross didn't activate the way he was supposed to. Is that the DJ? Who got slept right here?
Starting point is 01:21:38 Ross was supposed to lose his chain. Lose all that shit. Fuck all of that. Start thumping with all them niggas. But you can't get escorted out the back and your man is laid out like a mermaid. Ha! Ma.
Starting point is 01:21:52 They carried him out like his legs was tied together. Look. They took his chain and his sorrato. That's like the fins that the mermaid have. And they tried to grab them back to beat him up again. Like the dude was clearly knocked out. They tried to take his sneakers off. Like at this point, we brawling, man.
Starting point is 01:22:09 Which, by the way, though, we joke him. But I feel bad for that DJ because I do fully believe Ross asked his DJ to play that at the end of the set. Of course he did. So I play that, doing my job and now I'm getting...
Starting point is 01:22:20 Now I'm unconscious. Yeah, like what the fuck? I didn't sign up for this shit. Oh, I wouldn't have did it. I wouldn't have. I wouldn't have. Shit. If you, Ross's DJ,
Starting point is 01:22:30 if I was wrong... If I had a show and he said, yo, when I walk off play that record, you playing that record. Now, you might say, yo, big homie, you think that's a good idea. Yeah, because I would have been like,
Starting point is 01:22:39 you could consult with him. Yeah, yeah, I'd like, big homie, Big homie, hold on, let's talk about this for a second. We in Canada. Granted, we're not in Toronto, but we in Canada. We know with that, we know what that's intentional. What are we doing, bro?
Starting point is 01:22:53 Because we on, we on this side of the border now. I would say anywhere but L.A., I'd be like, are you sure? Yeah, like this, do you want to do that? And it's just not necessary. And this wasn't just a Ross show, right? It looked like a festival. I'm sure not like us played a million times. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:23:09 I don't know if they needed it on the raw set. Yeah. I don't know. Does anyone find it weird that we haven't heard anything else about the shooting in front of Drake's house? No. No, I don't find that weird at all. It makes sense that we haven't heard anything about it. Great PR.
Starting point is 01:23:25 Of course, but no one finds that insane that a security guard in the midst of everything that was happened was shot outside of one of the biggest artists on Earth house in a residential neighborhood of a bunch of other. millionaires and billionaires. And we only heard about it that day. No. Well, to be fair, we're American media. We are, I'm sure. That's world shit. That's not just, that's not local, uh,
Starting point is 01:23:51 I think, I think we'll hear about it. I think we'll hear about it once in the rest is made. Yeah. But I think until then, I don't think we're not going to hear that. Yo, still no suspects found in the Drake. I don't think we're going to hear about that. Well, we do know the biggest beef. But like, no, no, no, conspiracy.
Starting point is 01:24:06 Like, the internet breaks everything. No, no, no, no, no. What was the conspiracy? I'm not saying conspiracy in the way my tinfoil hack conspiracies, but I'm saying the way people on the internet, like nobody saw it. Just break every last thing down and find the fucking suspect before the cops do. That's what I'm saying.
Starting point is 01:24:20 I haven't seen even any of that type of thing. Well, we discussed, we said even during amidst this whole beef that the real issue here was with the weekend in dreams. So we're talking Canada within Canada. So I think that's the, that's the show I'd keep an eye out on is when the weekend starts doing activations.
Starting point is 01:24:38 and he's seen outside in Canada what that's going to look like. Now, I understand. I understand the PR between Drake and also everyone that lives in that neighborhood. They don't want that to be a topic ever. Yeah. Someone, I know everyone in the neighborhood
Starting point is 01:24:52 that Tori Lane's shot Megastalian in is pissed how long that narrative's been going in their neighborhood. So I get it, but nobody? Like, we've been talking about this beef for months and we just always ignore that that incident happened. Yeah. I don't know. I think, again, once a suspect or somebody is arrested and things, I think that's when we'll hear about that shit again.
Starting point is 01:25:14 But how is there not a suspect? How is there not a photo the moment that should happen with the amount of cameras and that they were? Sorry if I'm sounding like Vlad right now. It's just weird to me that we haven't heard about it. I thought there'd be a photo within an hour. This is the license plate. If anyone knows this license plate, please contact Toronto authorities. No, I feel you. It's definitely, it definitely disappeared quickly. And we didn't really get any other news about it. So I understand what you're saying. But I really wasn't concerned about that shit, honestly. I mean, it's crazy that that happened.
Starting point is 01:25:48 And prayers to the security guard that was shot. Yeah. It's just crazy that that incident happened and no one said shit. It's moved on. Were you concerned about your Lakers? Was I concerned? Mm-hmm. Um, no, I'm not concerned because I mean, the Lakers, they're not going to win a championship.
Starting point is 01:26:05 We're not winning a shit for the foreseeable future anyway. no matter who they drafted. But what was worse for the Staples Center? Ronnie being drafted or Childish Gambino not wearing drawers? Childish. You're crazy. This is the sick of shit ever. Put your feet away when you perform it for us.
Starting point is 01:26:21 Come on. So Bronny James got drafted to the Lakers over the week since we've been going for a few days. So Brony James got drafted. First of all, congratulations to the James family. This is something that I don't think. I think we've obviously never seen before in basketball, and I don't think we'll ever see again. So shout out to them and salute to them for that, because that speaks to just a certain level of hard work, consistency, focus, things like that. Like, it's not, what we're witnessing with this, this is not something that's, this is like a movie that we all would have seen this happen in the movie.
Starting point is 01:27:04 Like, that would never happen. That's corny. I mean, they already have the most combined points of any father-son combo in NBA history. Already, the day he was drafted. Yeah. Which is a crazy, insane stat to have. No points already, number one. When I was going through the list, that kind of blew my mind.
Starting point is 01:27:23 To think that LeBron has that many points in the NBA, before that, it was Kobe and Joe Bryant with 38,000 points. Braun has already passed that at 40,000. Yeah. So, I mean, Bronny could just average the same he did at USC and they'll still be fine. The record is still fine.
Starting point is 01:27:43 Let me say this. I support black and Hispanic nepotism. I support that. Same. Because you don't get, we don't get an opportunity to ever experience nepotism. We get left with debt. We get left for motherfucking old Buick's.
Starting point is 01:27:58 So for your dad, for your dad. Said negatism? Yeah, that's negatism. Not nepotism. That's negatism. So for your dad to be the player that he is arguably one of the greatest ever and still be playing at a level that he's playing at long enough for you to have been, you know, a college athlete and then enter the NBA draft. I mean, we're never going to see. I don't think we'll ever see this again.
Starting point is 01:28:28 I don't think we'll ever see a player play as long and as great as LeBron has played to where they're. child is now eligible for the NBA draft and they will actually be on the NBA floor together. I don't think we'll ever see it again. Yeah, I'm here for the jokes on it, but I mean, like I said, last episode, I think this is cool nepotism. Yeah, it's the same way nepotism works, you're doing it at the expense of an organization. Yeah, but they may not be fit for this role, but it happens every day. I mean, Jeannie Bus.
Starting point is 01:28:58 Yeah, Succession NBA version. Like, that's nepotism. For sure. You know what I mean? Like, it happens on every level. We're just seeing it now on this level. I mean, Janice has, obviously, his brother's on the roster. The NASS probably wouldn't be on the NBA roster,
Starting point is 01:29:12 but that's still his brother. That's like his peer. You understand what I'm saying? Like, it's a difference when you're talking about this is my child. Yeah. Like, y'all have video and footage of me and him when he was one years old, like at All-Star Weekend. And now he's on my team.
Starting point is 01:29:29 Fire. We're never going to see this again. We're never going to see it. Now, from just a basketball standpoint, waste of a pick. I love it. I'm still on the side of it. Listen, the greatest 55th pick ever in NBA draft is probably Patty Mills, right? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:29:47 Solid play. Solid professional. Solid player won championships for San Antonio. Spurs legend right there. Solid player, right? What do you average in college? I have no idea. Couldn't tell you.
Starting point is 01:29:59 But at least for that pick to be considered valid years from now, Bronny just has to be half of what Patty Mills was. Just half. And it's like, okay, not a bad pick. Because that's the other thing about this that people are not speaking to. What if, what if he develops? What if he develops? Okay.
Starting point is 01:30:21 And turns out to be a very serviceable player. As much as you guys think I'm a hater, I'm going to be rooting for them. And I've never been like, LeBron's never been my guy. I appreciate greatness. Yeah. But I'm going to root for them. That's,
Starting point is 01:30:34 this is cool. Bro, with the 50, I don't want to see this fail. With the, now, if they would have passed up on, still fuck the Lakers, but.
Starting point is 01:30:40 If they would have passed up on Steph Curry. The next. Or fucking Carmelo Anthony and drafted Bronnie. Now, I would be like, I, listen, I get it. I understand.
Starting point is 01:30:49 But God damn, bro. Like, we couldn't, we couldn't wait to the second round. He would have still been there. He would still been on the board. So that's why I'm not too, mad because it's the 55th pick. Did the Lakers have any third round picks?
Starting point is 01:31:01 I'm not sure. Well, there were a lot of the conversations they were saying like, because he still would have been there. Because Brony, the best player on USC got drafted relatively early in the first round. And what, you know, there's all the, he shouldn't be drafted. And I put all that shit aside. There was another kid on his team that was like a very
Starting point is 01:31:17 good, like another star, perennial star of that team that didn't get drafted. Yeah, yeah. So people are trying to compare. 16. Yeah, but here's, but this is, and I've had this, and I've had this conversation for days already. But this is my response to that. All of these players, all of these kids, they worked out for NBA teams. Like, they actually worked. So if that kid that was on Bronny's team who average, I think he average like 16 or 17 on the season. If he didn't get
Starting point is 01:31:46 drafted before Brony, guess what? That means a team didn't think that kid was that good. Well, that's what everyone's kind of what everyone's kind of speaking to, though, that no one's saying that that other gentleman should have been drafted. They were just. suggesting he averaged way more than Brony and still did not deserve to be drafted. That's what people are getting at. But now, cool. We know that the nepotism. But there's potential and not potential.
Starting point is 01:32:07 Listen, we know the nepotism play is, we don't even have to talk about it. I like that they didn't even try to hide it. We know what happened. All I'm saying is, let's give Brony a chance. Because all he's been granted with this is an opportunity to prove if either it was worth it or if it wasn't. I mean, I... It's just an opportunity to prove us right or prove us wrong. Again, back to them throwing the nepotism in our face.
Starting point is 01:32:33 My prediction was he would have went undrafted. He would have had this stellar workout with the Lakers and been a walk on. That was what I thought they were going to do. Yeah. I love that they said, nah, second round, $8 million contract. Well, when, when... There you go. When Rich Paul, I forgot which show he was sitting on,
Starting point is 01:32:51 but he said when he spoke to Brony and Bronteley told him, like, all I want to do is hear my name. name called. That's all I want. I just want to hear my name call. Yeah. That's the moment every kid wants. So when Rich said that, got to get him. I said, oh, they're going to draft them. They got to draft them. Yeah. Because again, I didn't shoot a video of him looking surprised. I was, I was on the side of you saying, you know, let him get, go and draft it. Go to Vegas Summer League. Yeah. Go to train to camp with some teams, work his way on. But the thing is, LeBron didn't want to, because LeBron said it years ago, he's playing, he wants to play with Bronny.
Starting point is 01:33:27 So we were talking about it all last year. Well, shit, where's Bronn going to go? Like, who's going to draft Bronny? Because you draft Ronnie, you basically get LeBron too. I think they made a decision like, yo, Braun is not leaving the Lakers. So let's draft him here. The Lakers granted LeBron and Clutch Sports that. They said, okay, we'll draft him.
Starting point is 01:33:48 Guaranteed contract. He'll come in, he'll work out. But in talking to players that I know, that are in the NBA, past and present, they feel like Bronte right now is better than some players that are in the NBA right now. They're like, yo, bro, listen, we get it, but he's definitely better than some guys
Starting point is 01:34:08 that are in the league right now. Some people are like, okay, cool. Now, this is coming from people to actually play the game, not just watch and analyze and have these platforms. This is coming from guys that have played at that level that are saying, Brony is definitely better than some pros right now. Name a pro.
Starting point is 01:34:28 Yeah, who they said. I mean, we probably won't. I mean, I don't say their names, but for them to say that, they wouldn't know because they don't touch the floor. So now my point is, my point is, like every team has players that don't touch the floor. Yeah, now, listen, Bronny is not going in here and getting the starting point guard position.
Starting point is 01:34:43 He's not going to be starting. He's not going to get a bunch of minutes. The Lakers are blowing somebody out, you know, for marketing and all that. They'll let Brony check in with LeBron. let LeBron set the screen for him. He'd come off a shoot. You know, give us that whole...
Starting point is 01:34:56 The moment. Give us the moment. Give us the moment. I'm not mad at them being able to give us this moment. But does the allure leave when that happens a few times and it doesn't go well and they can't justify... Of course it does. Keeping that moment. Of course it does.
Starting point is 01:35:11 All right, this is not working. He got to go on the bench. If this was any other player, he'd be gone. I think with this move, though, the Lakers agreed. They assumed the role of we're not a championship team. But they know that way. Our singular focus this year in this draft was this particular moment, which on the back end is going to yield a lot of his jersey is already the highest selling jersey. They're going to,
Starting point is 01:35:32 and they're good, they'll sell. If LeBron puts James Sr. on his jersey, guess how many more jerseys they're going to sell that one? If they don't do that. So we're going to get potentially a new LeBron jersey. We already have Bronny's jersey. And if Bronny puts a James Jr., they're going to fucking bundle them. Sell them as a combo. It's a Travis Scott album rollout. Like they're going to make so much money in product off the back end that I think for a franchise has been this winning for this long. How they justified it.
Starting point is 01:35:58 Yeah. Like everyone knew it. Because they're going to really, realistically, mall, they're going to pinch what, two years out of this? Probably more. I think Brown is going to beat him
Starting point is 01:36:05 when Bryce goes. I don't know. That'd be crazy. That's nuts. How old is Bryce now? 17. Three years away from that. He just signed a two-year extension.
Starting point is 01:36:13 Price is the best. So we know LeBron is going to be there for at least two more years, guaranteed. Yeah. We three years away from Brian from Bryce being eligible for the drive. That'd be crazy.
Starting point is 01:36:20 That could happen, but Bryce is really nice. I hope they allow him to develop somewhat in college. Just doing a quick freshman year thing and throwing Bryce in the league. That's my problem with this. Just to make another moment is kind of like, that's my problem with this.
Starting point is 01:36:33 What are we doing? The only thing, the only thing that is to me, again, I support black and Hispanic nepotism. The only thing to me that I feel like is bad about this situation is the amount of pressure that is on Bronte now. Listen, as a dad, LeBron did with most dad's dream about doing. So, salute to LeBron for that.
Starting point is 01:37:00 But I don't think that they have factored in the amount of pressure that Brony is going to be under. I think Brony, you know, for a kid to have a heart attack a year ago and be able to have the focus and the drive to work yourself back into condition and have the fucking confidence. to fucking be active and play sports at a high level, it speaks to the drive and the focus that Brony has, whether he was LeBron's son or not, just him as an individual and as a human being. Having that drive and that focus after the heart attack to still chase your dream,
Starting point is 01:37:42 bro, I know a lot of people that would never run full speed again after they have a heart attack. They would never want to get their heart rate going. Like, it just... On the fucking court having an heart attack. You talk about having that ability to focus, I'm rooting for a kid that has that drive. I'm rooting for him. Now, it's a lot of pressure when your dad is who LeBron is.
Starting point is 01:37:59 That's a lot of pressure. But now that your dad ushered you into the league, got you this spot, that's a lot of fucking pressure on Bronny. And he's already showed us that he has the drive and the determination to chase his dream. So I'm not doubting him. I'm just paying attention to that pressure. Being in Los Angeles, wearing the Lakers jersey.
Starting point is 01:38:20 your dad being who he is, people thinking you're not good enough to be there, you only there because your dad got you drafted. You know, players are going to set hard screens on them, try to send a message. Like, it's a lot of shit that Bronte is going to have to deal with. I think he's up for it growing up in a household with somebody like LeBron being your dad. You've obviously been around NBA coaches, the NBA game. You know, so you know what to expect from that side of it, from the physicality. and just being conditioned
Starting point is 01:38:52 and you know what to expect as far as playing. But all of the other shit off of the court, I don't think that they factored in and it's going to be a, it's going to be tough for Brony. They're going to give him so much, so much shit. They're going to give him so much bad press and so much, you know, I just, I'm just waiting to see if he's able to tune all of that out.
Starting point is 01:39:12 Yeah. Which he seems like he is because, like, dealing with a hard attack. He seems like a great kid. Well, I'm also curious how LeBron is going to handle a lot of that, especially being on the same team. That too. but I just think it's gangster that Bronny gonna be driving his pops to the game
Starting point is 01:39:24 and they get out the car together and they catch them walking in the game I just think that's fly the tunnel when they walk through that's gangster that we get to see that you guys think they're gonna carpool huh? Absolutely you have to in L.A.
Starting point is 01:39:37 Are you kidding me? I mean for environment reasons? You don't think LeBron is going to ride a shotgun and they get to ride in the fast lane because there's two of them in the car. You don't think Braun is riding shotgun while his son drives them to work to either
Starting point is 01:39:49 I assume they both had drivers they not no no no we ain't Bryce is the driver do they live together still no no I don't know
Starting point is 01:39:58 there's no way it could be a whole wing of the house that could be his I don't know yeah they still live in the same house really
Starting point is 01:40:02 absolutely I wouldn't move out either I ain't gonna lie I'm not moving you might not have to see your family in a house like that if you don't want to
Starting point is 01:40:11 my criticism this whole time has never been directed at Brani I think he's a great kid I think his life no matter what is going to be amazing
Starting point is 01:40:18 I always there's one thing LeBron said at the beginning of this process, even years ago before Bronie was even at USC. He said my biggest regret was giving Brani my name because he'll always be looked at like live up to my thing. Not only did you give him your name. You gave him your jersey. But Bron, but this is the thing. This is so hypocritical of Brown to say that and have the ability to look at himself and be upset that he did that. But then at the same time, you like he has the heart attack. He does the U.S. the U.S.C. route and then you rip him out of his college experience and
Starting point is 01:40:51 put him on your path. This is I'm sure it's Bronny's dream, but at first this is Bronn's dream. So Bronn robbed his son of his college experience, his developmental years for the potential best years of your life and let's, this kid can do whatever the fuck he wants. He does not need to play basketball. But then you just bring him into this league
Starting point is 01:41:07 that he is not prepared for it. And he's going to get scrutinized every fucking thing that he does. But see, the thing is you say he's not ready for it. He's not prepared for the NBA. As far as just the game? The skill. No, mentally, I'm sure he can handle it.
Starting point is 01:41:21 But this is what I'm trying to tell you, guys that are pros now and guys that are retired that I've spoke to about this, they feel like right now, he's better than some guys on NBA roster. A lot of guys on NBA roster. Okay. Well, he could have taken some more time to develop and be even better. I'm with you on that. Now, we look at it because everybody's like, oh, he only averaged four point something
Starting point is 01:41:41 in his freshman year. So did Jimmy Butler. Jimmy Butler's freshman year, Marquette, he didn't do anything. Now, Jimmy stayed in school and develop. Like, come on. He stayed in school and developed. But now we're just, but we know, Brony is just given the opportunity to develop at the pro level.
Starting point is 01:41:59 Again, my, I'm cool with this. My only issue is similar to what Julian is talking about. Don't make the last thing on your checklist of your career, the first one on mine as your kid. Like, I get it. He's, LeBron is trying to go off into the sunset. This was the last thing. I get it.
Starting point is 01:42:13 LeBron has chips. I get it. Point. MVP, anything you could think of. You know what I say to that? The first thing on his list is my son. So what? So what?
Starting point is 01:42:21 We've never seen it. We're never going to see it again. Jason Tatum is not going to be in the league when Deuce is fucking 20 years old and try to enter the draft. Tatum is not going to still be played back. And also, y'all don't like, y'all keep saying like let him stay in and let him develop. This is a once in a lifetime opportunity. Brony could have stayed in school and blew out his fucking knee and never got to the NBA and never got to play with his dad. Y'all keep putting it like that's only.
Starting point is 01:42:45 He could also blow out as me in the first NBA game. I guarantee. He made it, though. He made it and he played with his dad. I guarantee he wanted this more than LeBron did. Y'all keep saying this is LeBron's dream. To play with your dad. It's definitely, it's definitely LeBron's dream to have his son play with him.
Starting point is 01:42:59 Yes, but it's also Bronny's dream. Exactly. It's also Brony's dream to go to the league. To play with my father who's the greatest. I think that's a cool add on. Absolutely. I don't think Brony would have been upset the way LeBron would have been upset. Bronny just went to the league.
Starting point is 01:43:14 That was his goal. in my opinion. But like baby D. just said, what happens next year if fucking, like we got to, listen, bro. I hate that comparison. Anything with sports? Because that could happen. So we rip him out of college and put him into the most high pressure league under the lights of the Staple Center. Not that we rip him out of college.
Starting point is 01:43:29 We give him his opportunity to prove. It's just he's not, look, if the goals to get to league, get to league on your term, it just annoys me that it doesn't seem like Bronnie's in control or in the driver's seat of any of the actions that's happening in his life. That's what I'm
Starting point is 01:43:45 critical of. But those are y'all putting those decisions. Because it's LeBron choosing the path for Ronnie that best fits his timeline. I get what you saying. That's my problem. I get what you saying. But the thing about it is, Julian, if your dad is LeBron and the route that LeBron took and
Starting point is 01:44:03 you know, as great as we thought LeBron would be coming out of high school, LeBron James overachieved. He did. Of course. He definitely did. He surpassed everything that people ever said he would be and he would do. I think that LeBron looked at it like, listen, my son had a heart attack. You know, life is fragile. I don't, we don't know what tomorrow.
Starting point is 01:44:25 If we're able to make this happen right now, if LeBron, because here's the thing about it. If Brony went on to do four years of UFC and average 15 points a game, guess what? People would still be saying he's not good enough to go to game. Oh, I mean, that's exactly for sure. And I take back a little bit. You understand what I'm saying? So it's like, regardless if it happened after his fresh. year or his senior year, the writers and the analysts would be saying he's only going to get
Starting point is 01:44:51 drafted because he's James Jr. Exactly, no matter what he did. So we can stop this shit like, oh, LeBron's throwing his dream. Of course it's LeBron's dream to want to play. Who wouldn't have that dream as an athlete that has kids? That one day my son might be on the bench with me playing on the same. What father would not want that to be his reality? So yes, LeBron James has worked hard enough, he's been consistent enough, he's been dominant enough, he's influential enough, he's powerful enough to make this happen.
Starting point is 01:45:24 We've never seen it before. So what? Let it happen. Let it unfold. Let's watch the story because, again, what if Brani turns out to be a very good, why is nobody speaking to that side of the story? What if he turns out,
Starting point is 01:45:40 he goes into Vegas Summer League, he goes into training camp, He starts fucking killing. He picks up the NBA game fast. He adjust quickly and becomes a very good... He just has to be Derek Fisher. Don't do that. Don't do what?
Starting point is 01:45:54 Just having to be Derek Fisher is crazy. Just having to be Derek Fisher can play. He hit one of the most important shots in Laker history. It's still only one shot. Well, not compared to Robert Ory, but... It's still one... I'm just saying... Oh, that Derek Fish went over to Spurs?
Starting point is 01:46:09 Derek Fisher's numbers don't just fucking... Robert Ory against the Kings? Fam, that Derek, all right. Look, I'm not, what's pointing here. You're talking about that got nothing to do with nothing. I'm talking about some real shit. All Bronny has to, yeah, because all that's other shit is stupid shit. All Brony has to do is just be a decent player.
Starting point is 01:46:27 Derek Fisher is not a fucking out one in a life, once in a lifetime player. He's just a good player. He's a decent player. He was a great player. He was a great player. He was a great role. I'm throwing great around too much, man. He played on the championship team.
Starting point is 01:46:41 So this fucking market. Madsen, he's not a fucking great player. So does Samaki Walker. He's not a great player? You don't think Gary Fisher in the role he played with the Lakers did not make him a great point guard? No. I don't think Derek Fisher was a great point guard. You think he's Mario Chalmers? That's what you think?
Starting point is 01:46:58 Yeah, Mario Chalmers is not a great point guard. I know, but you're talking about him like he's fucking Mario Chalmers. What did Derek Fisher average for his career, bro? On that lake. You can't talk about the impact Derek Fisher had on that fucking team. Derek Fitch is not a great player. Double digits average.
Starting point is 01:47:12 on the two championships on the Lakers team that he won rings. Double figure score. That's a great player. Shack and Kobe? Was Shack and Kobe on your team? When you probably get what, 10 touches a game? That's not a great player.
Starting point is 01:47:26 I'm not saying he's Tony Parker, but you can't say he's not. When you're a great player, you get more than fucking three, four shots a game. When you're a great player, the fucking team is revolves around. It's Shaq and Kobe.
Starting point is 01:47:37 So what? He went to other teams when Kobe wasn't on his team. Was he a great player there? He was older. Man, Derek Fisher is not a great... Stop it, man. Is he a great coach? Cut the shit.
Starting point is 01:47:45 No. I'm, I know. Fuck, he's not a great player. He's not a great coach. He ain't a great nigga. Actually, I have her some nasty. He's actually done some nasty shit. He ain't great.
Starting point is 01:47:55 He ain't anything great about Derek Fisher. The fuck who's great? I don't see it and then y'all do that. I don't like that. I don't like, I hate. I don't hate. That's what you all to me. That's what you all to me.
Starting point is 01:48:06 Everybody. Everything. Everyone. Chris Rock. Yeah. You said Little Yolly stole. child's drums. He didn't even even heard the fucking drum. That's hate. That means I hate
Starting point is 01:48:16 little yadi? That means you hate that he had those drums. No, I'd like those drums. You a hater. You're a hater. I'm not hating. I'm hating the fact that y'all put in the name great on a player that wasn't great. I'm hating with y'all's name. With the drums great. Drums are really good. Drums are really good. But yeah, that's all I'm hating. Five-time NBA champion law. Thank you, Shaq. Thank you, Kobe. That's all I'm saying. So all Brownie has to do is go in and be a good. player and the pick is not wasted. That's all I'm saying.
Starting point is 01:48:46 It's going to be a lot of pressure, but he knows that. He knows his last name. He knows who he looks like. He knows who his daddy is. He knows it's going to be tough. I'm just happy to see a young black kid experienced nepotism at this level. Yes.
Starting point is 01:49:03 And I just want everybody to stop putting all this onus on LeBron because I don't think that Savannah and LeBron are pressuring Brani to do something that Brony doesn't want to do. Brony, Brony very obviously wants to do this. We know a bunch of kids that come from great families and can experience nepotism at the highest level. Guess what? A lot of themigas are strung out on drugs.
Starting point is 01:49:24 Mufferuckers is doing all kind of getting arrested, DUIs, all kind of shit. So now that we see nepotism on level where a kid can become a professional player and just get a shot to prove people wrong, I'm rooting for that shit. Yeah. I'm going to fuck with none of these people. Oh, Bron got. So what? What's your daddy got you?
Starting point is 01:49:42 Because all my daddy got me was a motherfucking old starter pistol, nigga. That's what I got handed down. For real? Not me. I'm just saying. Niggas, you know. Not me.
Starting point is 01:49:52 I actually loved her genuine concern. Like, really? Oh my gosh. No. But I'm just saying, like, we don't get to experience that type of nepotism. Yeah. Like, so for us to be able to see it,
Starting point is 01:50:02 yeah, because if this was a part of a movie script, we would all sat there and watch it like, man, this shit would never forget the fuck out of there with this unbelievable shit. Well, I hope that he does really well, because I think that he does really well, because I think that. If he does really well and has like that story where he becomes the greatest,
Starting point is 01:50:14 the movie is going to be amazing. We're going to cry. Like that story. Let's not get ahead of ourselves. That's that story is, come on, bro. The great. Damn. You're a hater.
Starting point is 01:50:22 You're righter. Look at you. I'm really rooting for Brayette. I started this. I was saying I hate the Lakers, but I am rooting for Brony and LeBron. Then your emotions changed. So now you hate it. Yeah, your true color is trying through.
Starting point is 01:50:33 Because she said he has the potential to be one of the greatest? No, that's not what I said. That's not what I said. I said, the movie. I said, If he has that amazing comeback story, this movie has the potential to be the greatest comeback story. I thought you were doing a metaphor.
Starting point is 01:50:46 Y'all Nica said Derek Fisher was a great player. Yeah. Great role player. Okay. Was he a great role player? Can you go with that? Come on, Ma. A great role player?
Starting point is 01:50:55 Yeah. That's all I said. No, you said he was a great player. You said he was a great player. I said he was a great role player. Stop. No, I said he was a great player. No, I know I did.
Starting point is 01:51:05 I said that too. I know. You said that. You said he's a great player. He started yelling before I could. I said a great player and then I said in that system, wasn't he great? But I did definitely say that he was a great player. He also thinks Derek Fisher's shot was better than Robert Orris.
Starting point is 01:51:19 So I don't even know where we can go there. I'm not, why is it always got to be better than? I said they're both incredible shots. That's all I said. I never said it was better than Robert Ores. Listen, Jaylen Brunson, great player. Derek Fisher ain't Jaylen Brunson. Well, why are you?
Starting point is 01:51:34 No one is to an all-star. That's not fair. Exactly my point. But you can compare them to another. role player. That's what that would be a more K.J. McConnell? It's even lesser than that, I would say. This is just. Derek Fischer's a lesser of a player than
Starting point is 01:51:47 T.J. McConnell and you called him great. I didn't call him great. You did too. What is he talking about? This is that. This is the Aitlis and B. And I didn't see a conversation all over again. Great system player. You didn't say system did not come out your mouth. System. Now it did. Julian, it's okay to say I was wrong. I wasn't wrong. Listen, man, shout out to Brony James. Shout out to the James
Starting point is 01:52:04 family. Shout out to Savannah. Shout out of Savannah. Her husband and her son got a job. Yeah. She's doing eyes. She's holding that household now. She's doing pretty good. Isn't Zuri like killing it on YouTube and shit?
Starting point is 01:52:15 Yeah. Didn't Savannah just start a podcast as well? Great family, man. That's black royalty right there. Workers in that family. Shout out to the James family. Shout out to the James family. Shout out to you niggas draft Ron.
Starting point is 01:52:26 Shout out to Adele. Is she still with Rich? Yeah. She loved Rich. Nice. That's her man, her man, her man, how man? Set it right on stage in Vegas. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:52:36 You don't stay on basketball, guys. Did you see the WMBA All-Star lineups? WMBA All-Star versus the USA Women's National Team. The national team is going to smoke the WMA All-Stars. It is what it is. But I do like this. I do like them putting the WMBA All-Stars against the USA National Team. I think that's a cool way to kind of spin the all-star weekend.
Starting point is 01:52:57 It's unfair. But it's cool. Because none of y'all can guard Asia or Diana Tarasi, but, you know, it is what it is. Yeah, I'm definitely going to watch. This is a fun stat. So they released the amount of votes, the top five women that were voted from the 2023 All-Star ranking to the top five from this year.
Starting point is 01:53:13 And look at the jump in the amount of votes from just a year's difference. Yeah, that's awesome. This is incredible. Shout out to Caitlin Clark and Angel Reese, man. Again, we spoke about the way they've lifted and elevated the WMBA platform. I just hope that it reflects, obviously,
Starting point is 01:53:30 in these types of votes, people coming out to games, people buying merch, the women, the players getting paid more, if people support the league more. You see how it all just is a cycle of giving. Liberty, 17 and 3. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:53:44 Can we go? Their games are fun and they play the Barclays. They're not like playing in like some rinky-dink bullshit. And Ellie's the best. Ellie's so cute. I'm the only one here that has been to a WMBA. I did court side of the Liberty last year. And shout out to Brianna Stewart, big Syracuse, baby.
Starting point is 01:53:58 Big Syracuse. Oh, she's from Syracuse. Connecticut legend. Connecticut legend. So why she ain't go to Syracuse? Does no one wants to do that? Do they have a woman's program like that? No.
Starting point is 01:54:07 Syracuse? I really don't know. I mean, of course I know Yukon has amazing. I mean, it's not, you. Yeah, like, is it comparable? Clearly, she's extremely good at basketball. Yeah, but Brianna. Was there an incentive for her to go to Syracuse and Yukon?
Starting point is 01:54:18 When you as great as Brianna, fuck it, I stay home and elevate the program. That's true. That's all. Y'all can't beat us. They just broke another, the game, it was like yesterday, two days ago, the Aces and the fever just broke another attendance record. It was over 20,000 people. Shout out to Caitlin Clark.
Starting point is 01:54:35 Yeah. And that game was in Vegas. I saw a clip of Caitlin Clark. somebody asked her if she gets like in game advice and shit from like players and teammates and she was like I saw her. She said no I wish like nobody
Starting point is 01:54:48 talks to me but it's also a professional level competition like no like even her teammates don't give her enough well that's fucking crazy not just the opposing team that's fucking crazy yeah like nobody no I just saw um shorty apologized
Starting point is 01:55:06 that was the literal quote maw wasn't exaggeration Nobody gives me advice in games, I wish. No, but was it the other team? No, she's talking about nobody. She said nobody gives me advice. Which just isn't true. That can't be true. How are you going to tell her what's true for her?
Starting point is 01:55:21 It's a team sport. They taught, like, there's no way she's just walking around this whole franchise and no one's giving her a fucking word. Julian, Julian, Julian, Julian, they don't even come to her aid when bitches is throwing her to the ground. They don't even come up. They don't pick her up. You think they're giving her advice. Like, yo, you should set the screen next time and come off and get it to
Starting point is 01:55:38 get two dribble pull-up. We're not even helping out both the floors. Like, it's so, it's so amazing to see the difference between her. And, like, for example, Angel Reese is such a league.
Starting point is 01:55:51 She's a rookie, but she's such a leader on her team. Like, her team is so tight-knit. Like, they have clips come out all the time and stuff. Yeah, but the way,
Starting point is 01:55:59 the way that team welcomed Angel Reese, they was dead wrong for that. Yeah, no, how they welcomed her was, yeah. You saw that welcome they had? Yes, I saw it. Oh, that little, like,
Starting point is 01:56:06 high school, like, walking out? Yeah. You saw that shit? Caitlin Clark? They threw a fucking parade. Like, how did they do Angel Reese like that? Andrews walked into a high school gymnasium. It was like, it was so fucked out chairs in the table.
Starting point is 01:56:19 But how does the NBA like welcome rookies? When you're to carry my bag. When you're to, LeBron even said that he used to have to carry bags as rookie. No, that's part. I'm talking about welcoming one of the biggest names to the league. Yeah. Come on, fam.
Starting point is 01:56:32 You got to, you got to welcome Angel a little better than that. That's what I'm saying. But yeah, she seems like such an amazing. she's going to be Caitlin may be like the star when it comes to like points and shit like that Angel Reese is the star rookie when it comes
Starting point is 01:56:46 like her whole persona and everything like Well I think Angel is more She's more marketable away from the game than Caitlin is But when you talk about She gives more of a personality to the public I don't know we don't know either of these women
Starting point is 01:57:00 But when you talk about tickets And viewership People are going to lean more towards Caitlin because her style of play obviously she's one of the greatest shooters but Angel when you talk about marketing and you talk about
Starting point is 01:57:14 sponsorships and things like that like Angel has that personality that look that the WMBA can grow outside of just on the court the game Caitlin is going to elevate the game as far as just skill
Starting point is 01:57:28 play things like that Angel's been killing too I was about to say shout out of her she broke the record for most back-to-back double doubles double doubles but but I think This is why they need each other is because it's
Starting point is 01:57:40 they both are going to elevate the WMBA in different areas. Gameplay and then marketing, which is why it's special to have them in the league at the same time. Angel will give you Charles Barkley-esque commercials of I'm not a role model type shit. Exactly.
Starting point is 01:57:55 She'll do iconic marketing. Exactly. I just don't want that to get lost that she is also an amazing player. Yeah, I don't know. I don't think that's lost at all, though. While Caitlin's over there saying that none of her teammates give her advice,
Starting point is 01:58:07 Angel Reese's teammates won't stop talking about how amazing a teammate she is. Yeah, no, I get it. You know, women are shady. Yeah. They just don't, you know, people don't, they don't like Kaylon Clark for whatever reason. I don't know, I don't know what it is. Never met her. She probably, Kaylin Clark could be an asshole.
Starting point is 01:58:21 I don't know. I never met her. But. Or she can be hysterical. She could be fucking Jim Carrey. She could be, you know what? Why a white comedian, though? That's, she doesn't race.
Starting point is 01:58:31 Chris Rock. Yeah, why couldn't she be the Chris Rock of the WMBA? All right. She's the Chris Rock. He's funnier. Like, whatever. But. Jim Carrey's
Starting point is 01:58:38 funny than Chris Rock? Yes. Yes, let's go. Fire it up. They're two totally different comedians. They're not comparable at home. I've never seen
Starting point is 01:58:48 Jim Carrey stand up. He's not a stand-up. He's not stand-up. So how is he is a funnier comedic actor? Yeah. But that's not fair. I give you that.
Starting point is 01:58:59 He's a funnier comedic actor, 100%. He's a much better actor. But when you say he's funnier than, I don't know if Jim Carrey is funny. Jim Carrey and Chris Rock were in the room together with you. I feel like Jim Carrey would make you laugh more than Chris Rock would make you laugh.
Starting point is 01:59:14 Well, that's actually true. It's different types of comedy. Jim Carrey is more of a clown. Like, Jim Carrier do clown shit where Chris Rock might react to something and say something and you'll start fucking. Like, your dad was fucking hard. I've seen that question before of like if all the comedians in the room, who would make you laugh the most? I think like Tracy Morgan and Mike Epps would make me laugh before Chappelle.
Starting point is 01:59:37 would in a room. Yeah. Like, they're that type of funny. Yeah. They're on the block funny. Yeah. So that's such a weird. Yeah, I think Jim Carrey would make me laugh before Chris Rock in a room.
Starting point is 01:59:45 I feel like, yo, Mike. If I wanted someone with a microphone to just talk, Chris Rock and it's not even remotely close. If you put all the comedians in the room, who do you think would make you laugh the hardest? It might be cat for me because Cat don't even got to open his mouth. Yeah, Cat would be up there for sure. You're just seeing him as funny. Cat don't even got to open.
Starting point is 02:00:05 Just seeing Cat, like, raise his mouth. raise his eyebrow might make me start dying laughing or roll his eyes at somebody or something that walk in boy cat williams just walking in a room is funny because i'm like yo what is this is gonna be crazy it's off the outfit alone yeah cat williams just walking in a room i'm gonna laugh and i feel like kevin hart is probably way funnier in person than he is on stage i feel like kevin hard would be funny in like insane to be yeah yeah for sure um i don't know what oh shout out to uh kaelin clark and angel reese wmba versus u sa nashashashashash national team.
Starting point is 02:00:38 My money's on Asian Diana Tarassey, that's all. I'm rolling with them. I'm going to try to get us Liberty tickets. And shout out to Bronte, once again, fuck y'all for hating
Starting point is 02:00:46 and being mad at nepotism. I support black and Hispanic nepotism. Let us get a taste of the nepotism. Before we get to voicemails, I mean, a lot of new music came out.
Starting point is 02:00:58 Maybe we saved that for Patreon. No, we need to talk about new music. Okay. We have to talk about it. I think Lucky Day is candidate. We're in July, right? So a little past halfway through the year.
Starting point is 02:01:10 Lucky Day may have album the year for me. Really? You think his album is better than Bryson's? Nah. Yeah. Who, sir? Kind of, yeah. That Bryson album is fucking crazy.
Starting point is 02:01:22 I think it's unfair to say to Bryson right now because Lucky Day just came out, but that Lucky Day album is very special. It's a good album. It's a really good album. I'm still on my first listen. We were listening to at Mall while we were hanging out here. But there's, I'm seven songs. in, there's not a miss so far.
Starting point is 02:01:41 That Bryce and Tiller album is really, really good, but off just weekend, listen, that Lucky Day shit is crazy. No, it's a good album. I like it. I like Lucky Day. I like his album. Lucky Days catalog. He's on Toast him, right?
Starting point is 02:01:55 I would imagine. And this album, I need to see live. It's one of those that you need to see live. But just looking back at Lucky's catalog right now, we need to start having some conversations. He don't really miss. Like, at all. his albums are crazy what's he three for three now yeah
Starting point is 02:02:12 did givion drop something if he did I missed it I've been waiting for givion same I like kinda you kinda cancel them after he I ain't cancel a fuck ass thing after him and uh went right to his album
Starting point is 02:02:24 Justin's guy and I love that he started his album with his grandma saying you know it's okay it was her fault that's like his will Smith moment hold me down granny yeah no accountability uh did you guys anyone else here
Starting point is 02:02:38 I asked Rory, I don't think he'd listen to it yet, but any of you, either of you check out the James Blake Yadi album, bad cameo. I did. Thoughts? It's cool. It's all right. I love James Blake sound and I thought Yadi might be able to pair well with it, but it's a little. I thought I was worried about it. Coming off of Yaddy's last album, I had like a high expectation because I thought that sound lent itself more to what James Blake could like compliment. But it wasn't. It just kind of just kind of just kind of. became too drab and just like, all right. Yeah. I get it. I'm gonna listen to it because I do fuck with both of them, but the episode that you missed, we had the exact same take.
Starting point is 02:03:17 Oh, really? I didn't listen to that. His last album, this could actually work, but we were worried. Yeah, if it was like maybe five, six records, I would feel great. It's just,
Starting point is 02:03:27 it's too much. Yeah. Love them both. Well, you guys know I'm here to always stand up for the women. Megan dropped her latest album. Have you guys heard it? First of all, shout out to Chow, for his placement with the Victoria Monet and Megan's song.
Starting point is 02:03:41 Yaddy could never. Yeah. Shout out to Child. He wrote the City Girl's best record. Obviously joking. Friend of the show. Have you guys heard Megan's new album? I heard a few records.
Starting point is 02:03:52 Again, I didn't have very much time between last week and today to listen to much, but I am going to listen to it. You were sending me, records. I was. There's a PimC verse on there. Unreleased PimC verse on there. That's one of my favorite songs on the album. It's really good.
Starting point is 02:04:07 So she leaned completely into pussy rap this album. I mean, didn't we assume that was, has she ever done? Her last album, her last album had pussy rap on it, but it wasn't this much pussy rap and the niggas paid it dust. That's kind of weird though, judging by the singles, like, judging by the singles for this album, I thought she wasn't going to go pussy rap. I mean, if you go to the singles, the singles aren't pussy rap, right? I know, that's what I'm saying. Yeah, the singles weren't pussy rap, but the album is heavy pussy rap. She has two Japanese.
Starting point is 02:04:37 based songs on there one with a Japanese rapper her anime fans are loving that shit smart for her to look Yeah for sure She definitely should it It makes her stand out But yeah it is very heavily
Starting point is 02:04:49 Pussy Rap based But like I said I don't blame her Her last album she took risks And nobody cared They complained about She changed her flow on the last album She changed her substance And nobody gave a fuck
Starting point is 02:04:59 So she leans back into pussy rap And you know It works for her I like it a lot I really like it a lot She has a Tina Marie sample on there. Like she did her thing. Whoever put it together
Starting point is 02:05:10 because a Tina Marie drill sample, I'm here for. Yeah. I didn't hear it yet, but I do, just looking at Megan and what she's doing right now and, you know, being on tour and seeing clips of the show and things like that, like she seems to be more of a well-rounded artist now than she's probably ever been.
Starting point is 02:05:31 Stage performance, music, just physically, I'm guessing she's probably in a better space emotionally and mentally as well. So I'm room for Megan. I like Megan a lot. Like I said, her performance at the BET Awards, I think she stood out head above any other female rapper that touched the stage. Oh, yeah, for sure. For sure. Got voicemails?
Starting point is 02:05:57 You've got male. Dude, this is a fun one. I got a couple good ones I'll listen to this morning. So here we go. Hey, y'all. I just want to say, first off, I appreciate the pods so much. You guys actually helped me get through my divorce. So thank you for that. All right. Let me just get straight to it. So my name's Kalani. I'm 27. I'm from the Bay Area. Like I said, I'm divorced. I got married at 18. 10 out of 10. Kalani from the Bay Area? Calm your loins. That's not that Kaylon. Okay. So she's married at 18, divorced now 27. Got it. But yeah, anyway, I stayed single for a while after my divorce and then decided to start dating again.
Starting point is 02:06:42 A few months into me dating around, I met somebody and we hit it off instantly. He's much older than me. He's 44, but shit just float, like very naturally. But fast forward, we've been dating for seven months now. And I feel like he has a really big red flag. that being, he told me he moves like we're in a relationship, he acts like we're in a relationship, but he is afraid to make that final commitment to me of being in a relationship because in his past he's always cheated on people he was actually in a relationship with.
Starting point is 02:07:21 And I feel like... Anything? Before we finish. No. The way older guys spin younger women is so obvious in their face. How old is she? She's 27. So she's not super, super young.
Starting point is 02:07:36 But he's 44. I can't like him. And clearly he only probably age younger women because he likes to spin women. Right. So you can continue on. Yeah, this is sick. At this point, is it manipulation? Is it like saying, oh, one day we're together because I'm a placeholder?
Starting point is 02:07:53 I'm asking you all, because I know you guys are going to give it to me straight. I know they have brutal honesty on this pod. And as a person that's already been through the ringer, I need the, I need the brutal honesty. Like, I need y'all to just give it to me straight. What do you think? Do you want to lead with dump them or? I want to lead with a, it's her fault. Ooh. Here we go with this shit.
Starting point is 02:08:15 There we go. It is, but. She just asked for brutal honesty from us. The guy she's dating just gave her brutal honesty. And she ain't taking it. So what the fuck of my, no, exactly. I'm not going to give you brutal honesty because that guy just gave you honesty and now you're asking us, what should I do? What do you think you should do?
Starting point is 02:08:32 You see? and that's the difference when you're dealing with a nigger that's pimping. That's pimping right there. You give it to a straight, listen, this is, I ain't, this is what it is. And this is what it ain't. Deal with it or don't. But that's not what he, that's not how he presented it. I mean, I love you.
Starting point is 02:08:51 And, you know, we have an amazing time. But any other time I've been in a relationship and I just cheated and I don't want to disappoint you like that. I don't want to let you down or hurt you. So I just don't think I'm ready to, he manipulated her. He's saying you don't... It's bad manipulation? He's saying, you don't deserve that version of me because I know I'll hurt you.
Starting point is 02:09:07 So how about we just stay in like this gray area where like I don't actually commit I can fuck other bitches but not feels bad? Yeah. Oh, no, that's what he's saying for sure. Don't get me wrong. 44. But he's giving her the option. If he was still continuing on to do this relationship shit and saying, yo, we're in a relationship
Starting point is 02:09:23 is still fucking around. That's manipulation. He's straight up told her. He's not, he's not manipulating nothing because he's telling her exactly what it is. He's not telling her exactly what. what it is is I don't want to be with you. No, no, but no, he said I want to fuck you and fuck other women. Yeah, but what if it's not that?
Starting point is 02:09:38 What if he wants to be with her? He doesn't want to be with her. He does. No, he's with her. He's just saying like, yo, like, in my past, whenever we try to take shit to a certain level, it just always, you know what I mean? It goes, it just falls apart. It doesn't fall apart.
Starting point is 02:09:55 I cheat. It falls apart. And if she decides to stay with him, he's getting ahead of getting caught cheating and going, yo, I told you so. Yeah. that's manipulation. Is that manipulation? It's laying the groundwork for manipulation.
Starting point is 02:10:06 He's giving her the groundwork for it. No, listen, I'm not taking her off the hook because it's shitty manipulation. He is with his actions telling you what it. It don't matter why he don't want to be with you. He don't want to be with you. I don't want to be with you because I'm afraid. My mama told me that if I get in a relationship, I'm getting cancer. I don't give a fuck what the reasoning is.
Starting point is 02:10:24 I don't want to be with you, period. Doesn't matter what comes because or whatever comes after the comma. Nah, but you got to give the because, though. No, I don't want to be with you. He's telling you he don't want to be with you. You're talking about that's a red flag. No, that's a decision. He made a decision.
Starting point is 02:10:37 There's no black. He's saying I want to be with you on my terms. And if you don't want those terms, leave. The door's right there. I told you exactly how I operate. And if that's not something for you, telling you now before, seven months in, that's when,
Starting point is 02:10:53 I mean, sometimes way earlier. But I've seen people talk for seven months and then finally start having those conversations. It's been seven months. Like, what do we do? I know people that have been talking for 10 years and never had those conversations. That's insane. That's pimping right there. I need to know the intention.
Starting point is 02:11:07 10 years and she still don't know what we is? You can't. What are you talking about? You know, one of your friends dated somebody for 10 years? No, my one of my dad's friends. You got some fucking nervous. What the fuck you look at me? You don't understand that.
Starting point is 02:11:23 Listen. At grown, at the big ass age of 27, you don't know what we are. Seven months in? No, we should be having the conversation now at seven months, which I think is healthy. That's a conversation about whether there's a potential for us to be in a relationship after a month. She's divorced. I didn't say you have to be in a relationship.
Starting point is 02:11:43 I didn't even see your toes without polish on them. I don't know if I love that. Have you ever been shitting in my house yet? A month now. After a month, you can have the discussion about not, maybe not where we're going, but whether you want a relationship or not. You can't understand a girl that was married at 18, divorced at 26, 27. just fucking around for a bit
Starting point is 02:12:03 and at seven months with a 44 year old that conversation finally happening you think that happened in month one with a divorcee and a 44 year old male that clearly does not settle down. She never lived. She's in her phase of just trying to enjoy it. She said she was dating around
Starting point is 02:12:17 and just connected more with this guy. Okay, that makes sense. All the rest of y'all don't have no excuse. That 44 year old nigga got to hold that little Tizaroni took her in that back room. She said, I didn't even know my legs could bend that far. I know what he was doing.
Starting point is 02:12:30 His eyes lit up when she said, I'm 27 and divorced. He said, oh, I could take you for three or four years. He said, oh, really? Spend this. This is the easiest. Your entire 20s was spent with a nigger. Oh, my God. Married?
Starting point is 02:12:43 Oh. That's like putting LeBron in the fucking G League. That's a rare Pokemon. It's too easy. It's too easy. And you know he showed her the world. Like, you know when someone like gets out of jail that did a crazy bid and then you showed them my iPhone and they're like, yo, what the fuck?
Starting point is 02:12:59 You know she got out of that. from 18 to 27 and was like, what's a restaurant? Exactly. Stop. Fucked her hat up. People go on vacation? Yeah, fuck the head up.
Starting point is 02:13:09 That's too easy for that. He needed, I might be with... I'm gonna talk to him. I might be with Baby D on this one. He, he know what he doing. He knows what he doing. He knows exactly what he's doing. He knows exactly what he's doing.
Starting point is 02:13:19 But you don't respect that. I respect that. I respect that. But also, also, Shorty, let me tell you some, baby. You haven't really dated. Yes, you connect him with a 44-year-old. You're 27. that nigga has about five years
Starting point is 02:13:31 maybe eight left of his dick working what? You think the dick go out of 50? Have fun with him. Blue chune, no roaring mall code. Have fun with him. Papa chewy.
Starting point is 02:13:43 Enjoy your time. Make them spend money on you. Run around. Like, enjoy your singleness with an older man. It's the greatest. They spend a lot of money. They're a lot of fun.
Starting point is 02:13:51 They give you a lot of knowledge. Girl, go, when you're ready to start seriously dating again and get somebody that's within five years of your age, you don't want that old. You're not going to want him in five years. I'm telling you, you not.
Starting point is 02:14:02 She probably likes because he's older, more of a structure because you just get a whole marriage. So yeah, I see why she went after an older dude right away. Yeah, but you don't want to, you don't want him to be your long term. And he don't want you to be his long term. You don't want shit on any terms. Yeah, he wants no terms. No, he wants her to bring her friend in a bedroom.
Starting point is 02:14:22 I'm on. I mean, there's no hints there, but I imagine he probably wouldn't mind. I'm on the marriage side. If it's financially, like if this guy is doing well enough to just support you and just like kind of, you know, spoil you a bit. Run with it. Don't expect shit from him emotionally. Go to nice dinners.
Starting point is 02:14:37 No, she's attachment Barbie. She got fucking married at 18. It's attachment Barbie. She can't, she's not going to be out here spinning the 44-year-old. The 44-year-old is going to be out here spinning her because she don't even have no experience. Spinning niggas. I wonder where she lives. You have no niggas.
Starting point is 02:14:51 She's Kalani from the bed. Oh, yeah. She's Kalani from the bed. Should she move? Did she just go on a whole new train? She goes on a whole new train? pimping, man. I know pimping when I hear pimping, man. He's about to put her on the stroll. I tell you.
Starting point is 02:15:06 Stop them all. I'm trying to tell you some real shit. Y'all think I'm joking? And I feel like that honesty kind of turned her on too because she just went probably through five, six years of lies with the divorce. So when he straight up said what it was, she probably liked that shit. In the words of Roy, honesty can be toxic too. It definitely can be. Man, listen, honesty can be toxic. He was going to sit her down like, listen, baby, bills is getting tight. you got to go out there and do something strange
Starting point is 02:15:30 for a little bit of these. Stop. You being disrespectful. I know how these older, listen, I'm an older than me. So I know. He older than me.
Starting point is 02:15:39 You got some man astro? Who me? Yeah, no. No, that's an old life. I don't do that. I'm just saying,
Starting point is 02:15:44 I know what he's trying to do. Oh, I know what he's trying to. She green. She, oh, listen, she's, she just got out of a nine year.
Starting point is 02:15:51 She was married? Yes. Yeah. This nigger hit the jack. I'm telling you what. This thing is. She got married out of high school. You got married at 18.
Starting point is 02:15:59 So in high school, they were probably together for Or probably wasn't able to experience any nice things. Nothing. He about to create her only thing. You ain't never had a nigger send you a one-way ticket to Miami, sis. You got to live. Fuck that old nigga. You got to live.
Starting point is 02:16:13 A one-way ticket to Miami is crazy. You got to live, yeah. Being in Miami for more than three days, you ready to get out of there. Like, all right, son, I'm ready to go home. Not if you'd ever been there before. Single. She probably traveled. Did she say what she'd do for work?
Starting point is 02:16:26 No. No. You ain't never been to Miami single at Nikki Beach on a yacht. It's only 27. She's young. She is young. She is young.
Starting point is 02:16:38 The good thing is she couldn't get back in the game. So yeah, my final thought on this is leave. He told you what it is. You were looking to have a relationship. I don't think you need a relationship right now. Just keep dating. She needs whole friends. Wait, did you make it out of that 10-year relationship with no kids?
Starting point is 02:16:52 I feel like she would have said that if she had kids. She didn't mention it. My sister Being married for nine years And then getting divorced With no kids It's crazy Especially at 18
Starting point is 02:17:02 She made it out That's crazy But you don't know Her situation Let's not Okay I'm sorry Yeah that could be awful Sorry
Starting point is 02:17:09 Yeah I'm sorry Well if it's not Anything health-wise Yeah Do you think She has she I think she should get Some whole friends
Starting point is 02:17:16 Show her the ropes Yeah Y'all not Listen to it I'm telling you She is the whole friend But like she's not This thing about to have all
Starting point is 02:17:23 All right man She's a listener and a Patreon user. What if he's paying for the Patreon? You're calling her a future prostitute if she supports your fucking show. Sex workers don't listen to our show. I know a few of them.
Starting point is 02:17:36 I know a few girls that got only fans that fucking... He about to just manage her only fans account. She's going to be masturbating, you know? Ain't nobody touching her. But he pimping. He's the one that he's controlling that account. This is a paid member of them.
Starting point is 02:17:50 Yeah, he responded. She doesn't even have her own login. Yeah, he responded to the DMs. You know how that shit go. I know these think it's just virtual pimping. That's all Now I'm not saying He's gonna put on figure
Starting point is 02:17:59 O' She ain't about to be Walking the stress But she She's about to get Her OnlyFats page pop And he's gonna control it 100% I know
Starting point is 02:18:07 It should be a Berkeley hoe Not an open Yeah yeah I know what he had it With that shit I'm actually About to ask If any of my friends
Starting point is 02:18:12 wanna get To the OnlyFans life I would love to manage Your OnlyFans Like I would love to be An only fans manager See
Starting point is 02:18:19 You were supposed To answer Your Only Fans Nasty Yeah it's just It's a bad look If you're If you're sorry
Starting point is 02:18:24 To your only fans You wouldn't be on this pot anymore. You'd be making too much money. You get the fuck out of here. Fuck y'all. I'll be out. But it's a bad look. I wouldn't do that. Because I don't like when people talk about me wrong. Like, and they get shit wrong. But just be so mean. Yeah, but you do show whatever you want. It doesn't have to be your
Starting point is 02:18:37 asshole. Do what Karoochie's doing. She got her feet, her feet page. Just cook in a bra. You also, you invite a lot of horny niggas, yeah. Yeah, you invite a lot of energy. And it's just like, I experience enough horny niggas just being on this podcast. Like, I went live yesterday
Starting point is 02:18:53 and I was cooking. A nigga asked me what my favorite sex toy was. Like I don't like the horny energy. Gangsta. I don't, I, I, I, I, I, I got right to it. No, but this is it thing. So you, that nigga, that nigga said, fuck them kidney beans on that stove. What's your favorite sex? You said, hey, how you doing? She said, good. He said, do a squirt. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, he went right to it. Show me your toes. Get naked. How do you like, it's crazy? How do you like your grits? I like my grits, naked. That's nasty.
Starting point is 02:19:22 But if you have a manager, they'd be the ones responding to comments. You literally would just have to be the person filming and that's it. You wouldn't even have to deal with it. No, we wouldn't judge you on OnlyFans. If Julian was your manager and he was replying to all the men in the DMs, that's really who we'd be judging.
Starting point is 02:19:38 How would you get in your bag as Damaris and the replies? We're not going to play the scenario out. That's not going to have Yomi probably would. I think Pige would probably be the best to report. Pete would smoke that because as him, the people subscribing or the him. So who knows him better than himself? Are they putting that on Pete?
Starting point is 02:19:53 Yeah. Why would you put that on Peach? Not like him person. I think people like Peach. Stop. It's still, you're still being shitty. Stop. Like the way Krista Stefano made the aura of who Peach is, even if it wasn't him. Peaches, yeah. That's Peaches right there. Peaches would be a good manager, not Peach. But yeah, I do want to manage OnlyFans. So if anybody
Starting point is 02:20:09 wants to start our OnlyFans, you don't know how to get started. You don't think that you would have good marketing. I am offering free services for the first month. DeMars, our listeners would leak your OnlyFans videos first day. Not my own. I want to manage other people's only fans. I'm going to be on there putting oil on her feet.
Starting point is 02:20:26 Who am I going to leak that? I'm saying if she went for it. I would never. It's not my personality. I would never do it. But I do want to manage somebody else. But if Baby Dee made it wink on all these things. Shouldn't be having these conversations.
Starting point is 02:20:42 What? Baby Dee. She's going to fucking joke, man. That loss is great, baby. My loss should look like ditties. Like, yeah. Yeah, because reading that on paper, like, not in context with his tone. Like, if that was just in a courtroom, just on paper.
Starting point is 02:20:57 And then he said, baby D, make it wink. You have definitely have to explain to the judge what that means. But thank God we have it on camera recorded the context. Like, what we talk about. But depending on what state, maybe we couldn't use that evidence. Maybe it would just be the read. And somebody fucking editing. You know, if they made more read that shit out loud, I understand.
Starting point is 02:21:17 See, that's the difference. I'm going to court. And, but. Do you know how I said it? I ain't saying like that. I know it sounds crazy, but like I said it in the context of a whole conversation. I didn't hear it on the side like, yo, you're making it wink? Like, that's crazy.
Starting point is 02:21:30 I said it on camera like, yo, your only fans would you make it wink? And then now they bring the expert like up on the stand too of like trying to explain exactly what Mika is. Yeah. So Miggott Gink would be having her vagina go up and then down as if it was winking like an eye. It would be a kegel. Yeah. A whispering eye.
Starting point is 02:21:47 Yeah. You know what I mean? Make a wink. Make the butthole wink. That's all. it's all good. We got another one? Do we have another voice message? Oh yeah.
Starting point is 02:21:54 Shout out to her. Yeah. Get out of that situation. Get out. Keep dating. She can't. She called to have us bully her about this. Get out. She's involved in a crime right now. Yeah. She's in a fucking, she's locked into a 360 with that ditty.
Starting point is 02:22:12 Yo, what's up with it? Big fan of the pot. My name's Smig. I'm from Ohio. And I'm just going to get straight to it. Last night, I was out having a a couple drinks with the homies. The spot we was at was dead, so we ended up leaving it like midnight.
Starting point is 02:22:28 As I was driving home, I had pulled up to this light. An escalade full of bitches pull up. They bump and glow really. They turned up, all this shit. They see me. I see them. They acknowledge me.
Starting point is 02:22:40 They're like, hey, what's up with it? And growing a passenger seat, she's like, oh, you cute. And, you know, giving off good energy. So I'm like, damn, where y'all going? They tell me the little spot that they're going to. I'm like, shit, I'll pull up. I'll see all there.
Starting point is 02:22:53 I pull up to the spot. They walk into the spot. I see them. I walk up to the girl that was in the passenger seat that was giving me the good energy. I'm like, hey, you know you're the only reason I'm in here tonight.
Starting point is 02:23:06 She immediately responds with this stank attitude. So I guess that mean you buying drinks, all the drinks for me and my friends then the night. And I'm like, oh, damn, like straight like that. Where this energy come from? She's like, what you mean?
Starting point is 02:23:20 You met her at a red light. I'm like, just, why are you? acting like that. She's like, oh, I ain't acting like nothing is you going to buy the drinks or what? I said, listen, baby, you enjoy your night and I walked off to continue enjoying mine, which include
Starting point is 02:23:34 buying drinks for other women. And I just want to know, was not petty for that or was she just out of pocket? Julian, why you pick this voice, Mo? Why not? She played that a little wrong. She could have went about that a little different. because you can get a guy to buy
Starting point is 02:23:52 round of drinks for you and your girls if the approach is right. They met at a red light. I met women at red lights. I met women in... How should she have acted? No, I mean, you just have to be a little cooler than that. Are you buying drinks for, like...
Starting point is 02:24:06 Like, what if you would have like, all right, y'all fucking? Well, you shouldn't say that. She shouldn't have said that. I agree, but he shouldn't have any expectations of the woman that he met at a red light that said, comes to his club. No, I don't think he had expectations.
Starting point is 02:24:20 I just think he felt like that was a little, like, aggressive and a little... Women that do that are corny. Yeah, that's all. I don't think he had any expectation. I just think he felt like that approach was a little like, damn, like... I wonder if he ugly. I mean, he said that she said he was cute. That could have been just bait for trying to get a nigga to come by.
Starting point is 02:24:39 That's what I'm wondering. I'm wondering if he ugly. Because if he was cute, he might have got a different response. I'm not calling you ugly smig. Shout out to you. I was just wondering. It could be like those girls that stand on. on South Beach and like
Starting point is 02:24:50 try to fake get guys going to the club. Oh yeah, they're promoters, but they're not they're like they're like undercover agents that are promoters. Yeah, they're like, meet us here. You need them there and they be like, yeah, so they just need your card and beat my card. Like, don't nobody need my card.
Starting point is 02:25:04 Then all of a sudden they're at the host stand and you're like, how did that happen? Yeah, like, you know, no, nobody need my car. I thought she liked me. Yeah, like, no, they don't need my card, shoddy. Like, no, I'm cool. It could have been one of those situations. I just feel like this is extremely obvious.
Starting point is 02:25:16 Yes, she was rude. Yes, she was entitled. and no, if you don't find that type of thing attractive, then no, you weren't wrong for not buying her drinks. Some men like shit like that. You run it, there's a whole community of men. It's called a trick. Yeah, there's a whole community of men that would have been like,
Starting point is 02:25:31 yeah, I'll buy you whatever you want. There's years and years of songs about them. What, asking for drinks? Not like just the entitlement. The entitlement, yeah. Like, I'm willing to buy, we'll do it. But, like, don't. It's the, like, rash assumption and, like, anger.
Starting point is 02:25:48 You're buying drinks if not get away from it. Yeah, it's not in the entitlement. It's like the, yeah, it's the, why are you so like angry? I mean, my energy with that is always, well, I was about to, but now I'm not. Yeah, now I'm not. Exactly. I would have happily, without even you asking, would have. Even for your friends, had you not jumped out like that.
Starting point is 02:26:07 I'd about you, let me get seven Fijis. Those are more expensive than vodka right now. More expensive with tequila. That's crazy. To the ladies listening who might not know how to finesse. men out of their money. She should have just went into the club and when he tried to talk to her
Starting point is 02:26:24 give him no rhythm until a drink is placed in your hand if you're that thirsty. If you're that thirsty of a bitch you'll fly buying your own drinks then you should have just had nothing to say to him until the drink was in your hand. I hate a bum. Show me your whispering eye. But to me that's even we're like now you're going to give him rhythm because he bought a drink. Because you got some tequila.
Starting point is 02:26:41 No, it's not even about. If a man can't identify that then he deserves to be deserves to be the trick. No, she, no. She's a bum no matter what. I'm saying how to be a more successful bum so that you're not getting caught so that you can finesse. Be a finesse or don't be just a regular bum.
Starting point is 02:26:57 Fall for that shit. I don't have any sympathy. You should have been finessed if you didn't peep that. If you didn't peep that play, I'm worried for you in the real world. If you didn't, that girl was giving you no rhythm
Starting point is 02:27:09 then you bought her a drink and now she has time to like flirt with you? Yeah. No. And she also, you just like, how can I explain it? You just, I don't know. You could tell when the bitch ain't used to shit.
Starting point is 02:27:24 Why are you asking if a nigga buy, when I go in and there's a nigga attempting to talk to me, I'm assuming that my tab is on him, not even on some like, I don't have it. I'm paying my own shit, of course. But if a man is really sitting up here in my face trying to get to know me, I'm automatically going to assume that you're going to buy me a drink.
Starting point is 02:27:41 I'm not even sitting there asking, oh, can you buy me a drink? That's an assumption that you're buying me a drink. Especially with how they're mad. That's just the type of people that I'm going to date. So you know what I'm saying? It's just like, you're not used to shit. If you like, oh, are you buying my drinks?
Starting point is 02:27:53 You ain't used to shit. Also, how much of a bummer are you that you can't afford a drink in Cleveland? It's like, what, $6? All right, hold on. Cleveland is not like, isn't Cleveland like a major city? I mean, it's not New York City. I'm not shitting on Cleveland. I'm just saying the prices in Cleveland are drastically lower than most cities.
Starting point is 02:28:09 I made it $25 for a round of drinks. I think Cleveland's probably, what, 15 for a round of drinks? and everybody know that if you can't go to Belanochase where could you go where can you go yeah I think to Demaris's point a bum bitch
Starting point is 02:28:25 begging me to buy her a drink in Cleveland it's not a girl I need Circumstantially how they met I think it was the assumption is that they met at a red light so then they went to the club together it's not like he walked up to her in the club it was trying to hit on her like they met
Starting point is 02:28:39 they went to the function together you just said meet me there if you want You just came up to me and said, you know, the only reason I'm in here. He literally said, you know, the only reason why I'm here is because of you, right? Boom. He set himself up for that. Now, granted, she's a bum, and the way did she handle it was awful. But you here to see me.
Starting point is 02:28:58 So that comes with the territory of we're now in this club together. Yeah. She should have responded with it, and I'm only standing here because I'm waiting for you to buy me a drink. That would have been cute. Gangsta. I would be like, get this bitch whatever she wants. It's on the night. Not it's on the night.
Starting point is 02:29:12 It's fucking on. I don't know. She could be. used to like the Paul brothers tricking out there. They live in Puerto Rico. Cleveland has some rich people. Cleveland definitely got some rich people. Oh, man.
Starting point is 02:29:24 Imagine being rich and living in Cleveland, Ohio. Oh, my God. Sounds like a nightmare. Imagine living in Cleveland, Ohio. Would own the town. Sounds like a nightmare. But yeah, I don't know. She played that a little wrong.
Starting point is 02:29:36 To answer your question, you were not an asshole. No, you wasn't wrong. She was being rude and entitled and you're not obligated to buy anybody shit. But to the women, just please have better finesse. Y'all embarrassing. Yeah. Yeah, I'm with you.
Starting point is 02:29:49 Well, this is a good return episode. Thank you for everyone that was kind about us missing the last episode, which wasn't a lot of you. A lot of you guys were really dicks about it. Fuck everybody else's a dick. Other than that, this was fun. Get on the Patreon. They were in my comments. I got a story to tell you all.
Starting point is 02:30:07 Happy Fourth of July. They were in my comments saying, Pod from the Wedding. I was like, man, shut up. Paul, I saw you. I saw your girl. I took mushroom. chocolate. I saw your girl in concert. Oh, I heard about that. I heard you got hitting the head with a pretzel.
Starting point is 02:30:19 Who? Coiletet. I went and saw Coileret, Jeanne Iiko, Umi, Tink, Keanu Lade. They on tour together? They're all on tour together. That's sound like a nice little lot. I'm sure. I've seen some clips from the Janais show. She loved she got a good stage set. The production looks great. Let me, I'm going to tell you my mushroom trip on Patreon. Oh, you took shrooms at the show?
Starting point is 02:30:40 Yes. Sounds like a good night. Yeah. All right. So let's talk about that. And let's laugh at the debate because we didn't talk about the debate since it happened. We'd love to. One of the greatest nights in TV history.
Starting point is 02:30:50 Jonathan was up there. We can also talk about Sizzah doing splits with Simone Biles. Watch that. I watched that a few times. She's, Sizzas, uh, Bendy? She's flexible. Oh, very. She was a gymnast.
Starting point is 02:31:00 Like, so she, like, looked like... Now we know her name come from. Yeah. A lot of people under those comments saying, Siza might not be lying. She's just lived this many lives. No, she was up there doing everything Simone was doing. Everything Simone was doing?
Starting point is 02:31:13 Yo, they did. I mean, they didn't go crazy. All about I say, if you show me Sizzar doing the fucking triple lucks, no, landing that shit. That's figure skating. Yeah, but whatever. Whatever. If she's on the rings, triple lucks.
Starting point is 02:31:23 If she's on the fucking, the fucking, Jayne Kish just did the bars and y'all didn't believe me. Nah, but if Sizz would get up there and do the balls or Simone Biles, that's crazy. Nah, she was, Sisset was showing out. We'll talk about on. Anthony Edwards might have gotten Zion off the hook when we can get into that as well. What the fuck? Anthony Edwards.
Starting point is 02:31:39 He might be worse. That 44-year-old from Oakland needs to have a full. Full conversation with Anthony Edwards. Yeah, man. Ant need somebody in his ear. I'm scared for him already. We'll talk to y'all soon. Rest and peace, upscale crack.
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