New Rory & MAL - Episode 287 | Rap Loses When The Family Feuds

Episode Date: July 23, 2024

This episode is sponsored by BetterHelp. Give online therapy a try at https://betterhelp.com/rorymal and get on your way to being your best self!Try VIIA Hemp! https://bit.ly/viiarorymal and use code RORYMAL!Big Tuesday vibes gang! How would you feel about a R&B Vocalist draft, done by the team? Well one will be coming to you via Patreon soon, so sign up here and let us know who you think should be included! While we get you guys' votes on that, Steve Harvey was getting votes from god knows who for a Family Feud category - Who Is The Greatest Rapper Of All Time (10:21)? Of course America disappoints us. We then do our usual weekend recap, and the team finds out that Yomi threw a gathering they knew nothing about (can you blame her? honestly.) (24:42) SPOILER ALERT: ‘The Bear’ | Rory finally starts The Bear and gives us a partial review (31:33), and then we get into a debate of our favorite caucasian actresses of all time (49:01). Lupe Fiasco caused quite the stir on spaces with a conversation about who should be making decisions regarding letting people in The (hip-hop) Culture; with many thinking its just more poorly masked hate for Kendrick Lamar (57:33). Taylor Swift and Scooter Braun were the focus of a documentary focusing on their infamous beef over Swift’s masters, and Rory can understand Scooter’s side (1:18:05). We also give our review on new music (1:26:14), quickly discuss Joe Biden dropping out of the presidential election (1:47:48), a voicemail about 20/20 hindsight (1:55:17), + more!For MORE Rory & Mal, make sure you subscribe to our Patreon community, for exclusive episodes, first access to tickets and merch sales, private live chats with the team, + more! https://www.patreon.com/newrorynmalFollow Rory: @ThisIsRoryFollow MAL: @MAL_ByTheWayFollow Demaris: @DemarisAGiscombeFollow Julian: @Julian__nicholas To watch the podcast on YouTube: https://bit.ly/NewRoryAndMALYouTube Don’t forget to follow the podcast for free wherever you're listening or by using this link: https://bit.ly/NewRoryAndMAL Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoicesSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Not doing that, but we will be in Philly at the City Winery. This Thursday, July 25th, pull up, let's have some fun. Let's kick it. Hope to see you there. Are you still boycotting R. Kelly if he's singing in your cell block? Yeah, absolutely. But you could boycott a little different if you're in the same cell block. It's kind of like that mean...

You can boycott in the showers, for real. You know what I mean with Jay when he's kind of looking up in. rocking his head a little bit. It's like, I ain't fucking with homie, but he out there singing that motherfucker. Ain't he like, he out there? We ain't fucking with him? But if we locked up with R. Kelly and he's just walking around the motherfucking tear just singing. It's like, yo, we ain't fucking with that and he's a piece of shit. But that's even more. He's singing the fuck out there.

We don't listen to R. Kelly anymore for obvious reasons. Yeah. But isn't there also the jail reason? Like, not only can you boycott, don't you have to stab him? Like, he was fucking with kids. Yeah. So you got to stab him. You got to shank him up real good. That's their version of not listening on Spotify. Yeah. Got a shank him. Got a shank him.

But thank you. Was that click real of R. Kelly singing in jail? I think that probably was R. Kelly himself. Sweeping up? Yeah, but the audio is definitely, the audio was definitely from an R. Kelly show. I don't know. I mean, Free T.C. by Todd Alassan on that album. Miracle is like one of the greatest songs in the last 20 years.

Yeah. His brother sounded amazing with jail acoustics. If you watch the YouTube video of his brother singing that part, They didn't really change much. They didn't like mix it. His brother just sounded that good in prison. But I think it's different because they were in the cell when he recorded that, right? Yeah, but maybe Cal's...

So the acoustics in the cell is probably different from being out in the actual, like, you know, on the floor. I don't know. Where he was sweeping up, like, in that, you know, area could have been like Radio City acoustics. You don't know how they shaped that whole cell. That's true. And then they probably knew where to send him. They probably knew where to send him. They knew which correctional facility has the best acoustics.

sticks. So let's send them here. Um, but it is crazy. Imagine being locked up with R. Kelly. Obviously, you know, he's a piece of shit, but imagine being locked up with him. Like, and just walking past him, something like, yo, this is art. Because it's still R. Kelly at the end of the day. No matter, you know, he's in there for, you know, we know what he's in there for. And we know how that's looked in, in the prison system, what they do to people like that. But this is still essentially one of the greatest artists that we've ever had. So now, if I'm locked up with him. I probably had impregnated my lady to one of his records.

You know what I'm saying? You could also impregnate him now that he's in jail to one of his records. By prison rules. Yeah, but we're not, we're in the free world. I don't know if you know that. Oh, no, I know that. I know we feel like we're in prison sometimes. This is the free world.

We don't got to think the way. An emotional person. Yeah, yeah, we don't got to think the way they're thinking it, yeah. I mean, I don't know. Do you think Jeffrey Dahmer was happy that his man's made it when Life's first album came out? And he was like, yo, my Selly did it. Yeah, Dommo, he probably brought the album. probably bought the album.

With Commissary? Yeah, yeah. You got to support that. If I'm locked there with somebody and they go out and become, you know, and I'm like, yeah, no, he used to sing for us in the cell all the time.

That's how crazy the world is. We just scrolled right past Life Jennings singing mint condition of Jeffrey Dahmer. Yeah, we didn't spend enough time talking about that. Like, think about how crazy that is. You used to serenade

one of the biggest serial killers in the history of the United States of America. Not only serenade him, took requests. Like, you were singing your own shit. And he was like, yo, you know pretty, brown eyes of in condition. Well, because I know

his, I know what he did in the streets. I know how he gave it up. How he gave up to Pretty Brown eyes. So if he comes in here, he's requesting me to be a jukebox and I just have to be a jukebox. Right? It's just, it's simple, man. Follow the rule. Maybe they couldn't get the song cleared in that Jeffrey Dahmer Netflix. It wasn't a documentary, but the scripted series. Yeah. Like, why didn't they play Pretty Brown Eyes while he was frying up that liver with no seasoning?

Oh. With a no stick pan. You know that liver stuck to that pan. Oh my God. You know that. Unless you use. to love some avocado oil, which I don't. I don't take Jeffrey Dahmer as an avocado oil. But I didn't take him as a men condition fan either. So anything is possible. Yeah, that threw me off.

I was like, wait, Jeffrey? I mean, listen, it's a classic record. It is. Classic record. Do you guys judge Dreia Kelly for not changing her last name? Who? Dreia Kelly, our Kelly's ex-wife. I was having a conversation.

I went over the weekend and I do, me personally. But do y'all she says- You judge her for not changing it? Oh, yeah. Why? Sure. I would. You judged Tina Turner for not changing her last name? I think that's a little different because Tina Turner was the star.

And. Well, Ike Turner was, he was a, he wasn't as big a star as Tina, but he was, he was known. He was known. He was a musician. Tina Turner was a star and her whole career hinged on her being Tina Turner. Now, if she wanted to change it, whatever. And also, her husband wasn't a, like, he didn't touch children. He wasn't a pedophile.

I think it's a little bit different. As you point out all the time, that being a pedophile is the worst crime. So I feel like if your husband is a pedophile and like, you know. And you go in the dock and like out him on a bunch of shit. Yeah. And you're not. Yeah. I guess I never really thought about it.

But that is a little odd that you still hold on to his last. Your name in the lower third of the dock is his last name. And you're not the star. But she says she was like, that's the only way people find me. Like people search me by that name. Who's searching? Who's searching Miss Dreikow? I didn't even know what you were talking about when you said Drake.

Yeah. And who would they search? And what are they searching her for? I actually was like, Drea's real last name is Kelly. So she actually goes viral a lot for the dancing that she does. She's a dancer, a professional dancer.

But she goes viral a lot. But even if you didn't go, like even if you had changed your name, people, you going viral, people will recognize who you were. You can change your name. Let's get Demeris in some more trouble.

Tina Turner or Tina Marie, best vocalist. I would need more time for that. Okay. I would need more time for that. Now she needs more time. I would prefer, I would prefer Tina Marie,

but I would need more time for. for that. But that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's a bias. That's, that's, that's a easy bias. Same. I probably lean. I was raised on Tina Marie. Another white woman who I give credit to, by the way. Let's add her to the list of white women I give credit to. I didn't say you didn't give no credit to Ariana. I was just saying that I did. Because you said she can't sit with Brandy and Monica. And I'm just like, she just sat with them. And she sat with them because Brandy and Monica trust they hold her at a high regard as well. Of course they do. You know what I mean? She deserves to be held at a high regard. Do you go and listen to the song after? I did.

And it's, I thought it was more so going to be like a rendition of the boy's mind. But it was a whole different. Yeah. Which is, that was what I said. That was all I was saying is that I would. You want them, Brandy and Monica, to do their own thing. And now that that happened, I know that they're not going to do their own thing. But then you fell into the podcast, debate, rabbit hole that we do and Pete chopped it up.

And now you're hated on the internet. I haven't. Isn't it great how that works? The cycle. The children, the Ariana Grande, children. And I just want to go back. to what you're saying about Tina Turner and Tina Marie. It's not even close.

Tina Turner is a way better vocalist than Tina Marie. Okay. I'm not fighting you again. Like I said. I love Tina Marie, but we're talking about Tina Turner here. Just go look at the history of Tina Turner and like songs and things like that. Well, we're going to put together a whole female vocalist competition for Patreon this week, which I'm excited for. Y'all can't, y'all can't fuck with me.

Just because he was there for them? Oh, no. And I want people to bring live performances to back up their picks. Like, you can't just be out here. like yeah she could say better. No, no, no, no, no. Bring your best live performance to back up your picks. It's Patreon.

We can play the performance. That's why I love to do this on Patreon. We can play the shit. Exactly. So this should be fun this week to record that. Oh, no, listen, I got my full. I got my full. You better hope I don't pick one of them before you do.

Yeah. It's all right. I got somebody coming off the bench. I got somebody coming off the bench. Don't worry. I got somebody on the bits that you're not even thinking about. Okay. Justina Millian.

Don't do that. I like Christina. What you know I love. I love Christina Melillon. Don't do that, though. Don't do that. Don't do that. Don't just, what?

I'm just, because that could be taken some type of way. Where's Jasmine Sullivan on that? We'll save it. You know, that was, she's somebody first round.

That's, sure. If she doesn't go on the first round. Sure. That's my second round. If y'all don't pick her first. That's what I'm saying. Jasmine Sullivan is the first round.

I don't know. Pick vocally. That was the only, that'll be like when Seyvon and Alex didn't draft Jay Cole in the first round. That was big. Shout out to them. I enjoyed watching that segment and seeing the stuff on Instagram, but I was sitting there like, Cole, second round?

I mean, but then now you look at this whole Family Feud thing that's going viral. Yeah. The most popular rappers. I mean, we can't play the clip, but can we at least pull up like the final results? So do we need to explain how Family Feud works? I think, no, what I do think we need to do with Family Feud is explain how obviously over the years family feud has obviously leaned into some. social media. For sure.

They should. Like their questions and their answers. Even, Steve is obviously prepped. Yeah. To kind of like ad, live and go off script a little bit to give it that viral moment. But they did the most popular rappers.

That was the category. I believe it was the greatest rapper of all time. Yeah. Was the question. Who is the greatest rapper of all time? Yeah. And how Family Feud works is they poll a bunch of people and then put up the most names. But this is important.

The families guess what would be the highest. But this is important about family feud. And we've been saying this about years. when they say we polled 100 people Who is this 100 people? Y'all know who the hundred people are. That's why I think stats and data are bullshit in general. Yeah.

Like when they poll people and like, oh, these are the results. You polled like 100 random people in a random town in Michigan. And it's like, oh wait, now this is facts? Because y'all didn't pull. I have the science to back it up. No, you have 100 in another state that came up. Y'all didn't poll 100 people in New York City and California. No way.

And that's all that matters, right? Well, I don't know. Fuck the South. Right. Fuck the real county over here. Fuck Texas. Fuck the Midwest. It's New York and it's California when it comes to hip-box.

No, it looks like they polled California. I'm not going to lie to you. Well, based off this list... Yeah, this is a very California result. I would say they polled Long Beach to me exactly. They were in Long Beach. They polled 100 people on Sunset Boulevard. To be honest, Snoop Dogg, we have the graphic of now.

That was the one that actually made the most sense to me, because I've argued for years that Snoop Dogg is the most famous rapper of all time. Most famous rapper. I'm using my words. but if you're saying that this question was who is the greatest rapper of all time. Okay, but either way, family feud is kind of based off the casual fan of anything, what they think is the most famous. For sure.

So Snoop being number one makes a lot of sense to me. But after that, it went off the fucking rails. Jay-Z was last. It made sense. Like once we- Jay-Z and 50 was tied with three. Let's talk about that for a second. Okay, but-

The answer started popping up. Me and P's like, well, we were watching it. Once the answer started popping up, I'm like, oh, we can guess who's going to be next. Snoop Dog is going to be number one, like 50 cents going to be on here because this is most popular with, you know, the majority. White people. MDM3 makes sense. The one that really doesn't make much sense to me at all is Dr. Dre.

Dr. Dre is very popular, though. He's very... He's not that. But, and I'm talking about his rap. Yeah, if somebody was like, even to like my mom, who's the greatest rapper, she would never pull Dr. Dre out of a hat. She definitely pull up Snoop, Eminem. Nobody has Dr. Dre on the greatest rapist.

Dr. Dre doesn't have Dr. Dre on the greatest. But we know it's not based off that. I'm saying just off popularity how family feud works, Dr. Dre made no sense to me. Yeah, no. I just don't think that's a name people pull out. No. It doesn't.

And I think that, you know, and we can, I think that they put these names on it because they knew it would cause a uproar, it would cause conversations amongst social media. I appreciate it. Steve, with every answer was like, yo, I apologize to hip-hop. Yeah.

I don't, I don't think so. Oh, Ma. And the reason why I don't think so is because if that was what they were trying to do, what they would have done was put Kendrick and Drake on there and put them in an order that people didn't want them. I think that's too easy. I think this is an honest poll. Family feud wants too easy, though. I'm with Damaris. If they were really trying to go for that, I think they would have put Kendrick Lamar at number two. Yeah. Just cause another fire? Yes. But I mean, it took both families a while to get here and then they didn't even finish the board. Yeah. They said, Nas, Drake, Kendrick.

Yeah, because once I'm saying all these names and none of them's up there, it's like one dude just said Big Z. I don't even know who that is. He just gave up. He was last in the line. That's how far they got. Listen, if Drake ain't up there

and all these other dudes, I don't know who y'all got up. What's funny is Jay Z was already on the board when he said Big Z. Yeah. It's not like he mistaken. He's like, oh, I know it's something Z. He saw Jay Z and was like,

well, it's got to be Big Z. Yeah, naturally. He just was, he just doing the tile after that. But this list, Snoop Dogman number one. Okay, Snoop is arguably the greatest, well, not the greatest, the most famous rap of all time. Most recognizable rapper. Tupac is arguably the greatest rap of all time.

Eminem, some people would say he's the greatest rap of all time. Dr. Dre, we can agree, is not one of the greatest rappers of all time. Icon within hip-hop. Oh, we're changing the conversation then. Dr. Dre is absolutely on that list. L.L. Cool J, not mad at him being on anybody's top five and rappers of all time. I wouldn't. Never guessed his name either.

Me. LL and Drey, it's like, I think to the Middle America adult that would participate in this poll, would think L.L. Cool J was like the black guy in SWAT. I don't know if the people that aren't into hip-hop really know L-L-Cool-J's resume when it comes to hip-hop. Well, you got to remember LL is the first superstar. For sure. And rap. So if we're polling people in their 50s, 55 is, they know who LL. Cool-J is.

Like when they were probably in high school, L.O. Kulj was the biggest rapper in the world at that time. As far as rappers that have been in every single generation, he probably is the most successful and well known. But I think the regular person doesn't put rap in L.O. Cool J. together. I know that sounds crazy. But it's like, oh, yeah, I mean, he's kind of rapped. I mean, he's not probably one of the first names, but L.L. has crossed four decades? Yeah. Yeah. Since the 80s? That's what I'm saying. He's been in almost every age of the album. out right now. Yeah, it's like, so he's, he's definitely in that conversation. I'm not saying he doesn't deserve to be up there. I'm just shocked he is. Of course, L.L. deserves me up there.

Got you. Obviously, Biggie number, uh, what's that? Five, six. Five points. Six. Five people maybe said Biggie, okay. 50 and J. 7 and 8. All right, well, 50 did say in an interview a while ago that when he went overseas, like, specifically when he went to Africa, they only knew 50 cent and Tupac. And there's been other rappers that have talked about going to around the world where it's like, all right, they only knew Wu-Tang, 50 cent, Tupac, and ACON. Those were like the four artists that universally around the world are known. So it doesn't shock me too, too much that 50 would be there. No, 50 is also one of the most popular rappers probably ever as well.

Who would y'all, who's not on this list that y'all were thinking, like when you realize that what they really mean is most popular rappers in America, who did y'all think would be on there that isn't on there? Drake. Yes, Drake, of course. Outside of the obvious, the ones from our generation, because these are all old-ass rappers. Like, none of these rappers are...

Yeah, but I guess even to like hip-hop heads, when you ask the greatest rapper of all-time question, rarely do you say someone from the newer era. Yeah, of course. So I can see why there's no new names. Well, because when you talk about the greatest rap of all-time, you have to talk about somebody that has... Been around?

Yeah, they've been around. Yeah. They've been around for time. You know what I'm saying? Like not just a moment. They've been around for some time. Call me crazy, but I think at least one person would have said Nelly. No, I agree.

No, I agree. He went diamond. I agree. I was thinking ice cube as well. Someone said Ice Cube and I was like, that's for sure up there. And Ice Cube wasn't. I would say I would have Ice Cube there before Dr. Dre. Same.

Yeah, that would make sense. I mean, that's just me. But, I mean, you know. I also would have, I'm, I am not, I'm surprised that Nikki is not. on here. Did somebody say Nikki? I think somebody might have said her name. Yeah.

I'm not sure. I wouldn't shock me though. But this is always fun when hip-hop's in Jeopardy and Family Feud. And you just see like how other people view hip-hop. It's weird. I saw a clip of L.L. He was talking about because, you know, he's obviously been doing more interviews, being more visible because he has music coming out.

So somebody asked him about his, the long time. I guess feud with him and Jay. And if he has an issue with Jay and then he speaks on where it started from and was like, yeah, you know, they sold him a few years ago and, you know, he was rapping and, you know, I just ran out of rhymes. I didn't have a whole bunch of rhymes just ready to go. And he did. So it was like, okay, if you feel like you won because you have more rhymes.

Didn't he run down on him at like a gas station or like a something? What's the story? I don't think it was a gas station. They probably was just somewhere and he, they ran into. to each other. But it was good to see L.L. because that was something that I probably had never heard L.L. really address and speak to. But he basically said, you know, he put that to bed. Like, we don't have any beef. It's not a beef. It's no issues. You know, it just was a moment years ago where we kind of wrapped. It wasn't a battle, but we wrapped bars towards each other.

And he just had more bars ready to go than I did. think LL is as self-aware about how sensitive he is, like outside of, you know, I need love in his catalog, his issue with cannabis, I think he gets very sensitive when rappers say one word about him. Like, he really gets in his feelings. Cannabis didn't say anything bad on that record, and it became a whole beef. Hove just, they've freestyle back and forth. But we know that. Isn't this how rap goes? We know rappers are, well, artists, creatives are sensitive about their art and things like that. But rap is more because it's, where it originated, originated from the streets.

Just that energy of, you know, somebody coming at me or trying to disrespect me or take my position. I got to protect this. It's a lot of that with it. And L.L. is from that. Yeah. He's one of the originators. He's one of the, again, he's probably the first rap superstar.

He'll take a muscle-bound man and put his face in the sand. A lot of people don't even, I mean, they can't do that. That's true. I can't do that. I'm for sure not mean. But it was good to see L.L. you know, dressing and kind of laugh at it and, you know, just put that shit to bed. Like, listen, there's no beef between him and Jay-Z.

You know, there was a moment. We had it. He feels like he won because he still had more bars. It's like, okay, cool, you know what I mean? But it was good to see Ella talk about that. And that record he got with, was it Ross and Fat Joe? Yeah. Not a bad record.

Ella always makes pretty good music. Yeah, it's not a bad record. I'm not saying I'm waiting for the album. I mean, Nas is on it. But I do want to hear it. Eminem is on it. I forgot who else is on it. There's some good features on there.

It's always good to see the legacy acts still active, though. I know we say that. Eminem just put out a project. And I do like that record with Big Sean and, who's it Big Sean and BabyTron? BabyTron. I like that record. You were clouded me when I was rapping the hook.

No. Because it's the way you said. It's the way you're saying it. I said it how he said it. Nah, man, because you'd be saying shit sometimes. And it's like, yo, what is that? And then I hear it. And I'm like,

they told me McGuire not get bit by a spider. Yeah. But see me. Yeah. I was made by a goat. I understand it. But when you say it like that, like your cadence and like, I said it the same way.

Nah, no, man. You say, you got this thing where you say shit and then I hear it. And I'm like, it doesn't sound. It doesn't sound. It doesn't sound anything like he said. It sounded. But I do like that record. But the album I'll probably never listen to again.

I just hope that, like, L.L. is marketed to the people that really can't wait to hear this album. Yeah. I'm cool. Like, I'll listen to it, but I'm not going to run to it. He shouldn't be doing all the publications that are the young kids are doing. I mean, it's cool if he does it. But go on Good Morning America.

Go market. But I'm not mad at him doing like certain. Go sit with Anderson Cooper. I mean, yes, but I'm also not mad at him sitting at some of the more, the younger platform. To get the cool stories and everything. Yeah, I just don't know if that'll translate. That's LL, bro. This is one of the, he.

coined the phrase goat. Okay, for sure. Let me rephrase it. Yes, I would love to see L.O. on the younger platforms just to get some of those L.L. stories, because I hate to sound like LeBron James, but he's probably an encyclopedia of hip-hop. He's seen everything. Absolutely. I don't know if that's going to translate into streams the way it would if he does like morning shows. Like, go on Kimmel. Yeah, but again, I'm not mad at him doing, I'm not mad at him doing these platforms because it gives them a chance to, you know, talk to people that have their thing on the post now. And it gives the people that have these, you know, the younger people to have these platforms. It gives them the opportunity to gain knowledge and gain stories

and understanding of exactly the things that, I mean, if you don't know, I don't know how, you would even have LL on your platform. But to just get an understanding of the things that LL KulJ has accomplished throughout his career and the things that he's done. And that, That reminds me. I do need to listen to the L.O. Cool J. Combat Jack interview. It's from nine years ago, but it just reminded me that he did a combat interview. Yeah. Like, LL is, as long as we have these type of people around, I think that is great for them to always, not oversaturated,

but when they do decide to make their rounds and visit platforms, I do think that it is our duty as just fans of the culture to pay attention and to listen and to get those stories. Because, again, this is somebody who's been in the culture and has been, contributing to the culture for four decades. Like, that's incredible to still have somebody like that. And for him to be in the shape he's in musically, physically, like, he's still, you I'm saying? It's like, this is LL, bro.

Like, he's, he don't, he probably looks better now that he did when he was 20 years old, which is crazy to say. So, I mean, somebody like that is somebody that you want to obviously talk to and learn from because he's done it at the highest level. He's done it probably longer than anybody that's in the game right now. So I think those type of people you absolutely have to make sure you keep in touch with and keep your, you know, your platforms open to them coming by. Produced entirely by Q-Tip. It's good to see the collab albums we never got.

Yeah. Pete Rock Common that just came out, Q-Tip, L.O. I'm all for it. Yeah. Did you do anything this weekend? Should I even bother asking? What did I do this weekend? I felt like I did that.

I went out to a dinner. Okay. De Maris was in these streets. The Maris is always in this. No, y' only threw a whole. barbecue and didn't invite us. Yomi had a barbecue and didn't invite me. Yomi, you fired. Which, I'm at my Matt Beach. Which

one Yomi, your ass is out of it. Yomi, your ass is out. Now, Yomi had a barbecue and didn't tell us. Well, to be fair, Yomi lives in Jersey, so. You weren't going. Yeah, you weren't going. I ain't going live. Yommy invited me like to her barbecue at her crib. You would not come.

I might have pulled up. You wouldn't have. But it's cool to say that you would. I might have pulled up because it's like, damn, Yom. Like, you know me never invite me. It's pretty deep in Jersey. though. Yeah, I might not. It's not like my crib in Jersey. I might not have pulled day. I know you wouldn't. Y'all could have FaceTime me though. It's like maybe like 20 minutes from Rory's house. Oh, that's not too bad. Yeah, but from my crib to your crib's already like an hour

and a half. Yeah. So then add in another 20 minutes. You're not doing a two hour drive. Yeah, y'am. I ain't doing two hours. My bad. On a Sunday on the way back to. You still got your job. Yeah, it was definitely. It was a Sunday. So yesterday, Yomi. So she had hit me on Friday and she was like, you know, I'm thinking about cooking out on Sunday. And I was like, oh, I bet. All right, bet. Let me know if you do. She never let me know. So on Sunday, you know, I'm home and my sweats like doing my meal prep on the grill, me and Alex. And Yomi hit me like, yo, where you at? She sent me a picture of her and on Loyon. I'm like, oh, so you cooked out. She's like, yeah, I told you I was miscommunication, whatever. So I'm like, I'm just going to stop by it. I came. I bought her a bottle of Don

Dakota. You said what? Loyal lives in like Connecticut. Loyon went to Yomi's house for a barbecue Yes Okay continue I'm just taking I'm just making sure I understand what happened Want to follow the fact? Yeah yeah I'm just okay

He might have been in the area Or he just really bucks for Yomi So you know I get there Let me tell you about y'all boy Loyal man Tell me about Loyon I just spoke to him this morning Loyon is at the cookout saying that he's Dominican I mean listen

We just found out this year that Mo was Puerto Rican So anything is possible Oyan is African. He is not Dominican. So then he said up there. So he's like, Africans are in the Dominican Republic. But yes,

but he's fully in character, right? Like he's like really like living this. Like speaking. Why was he saying? Did he think Yomi? No, speaking Spanish. Did he think Yomi was Dominican? Do him Bichata.

He, um, her girl is Dominican, right? And you know, Dominican's love. And there was some, there were some other Dominican women in the building. Now that was making sense.

All right. Right. See as you give me context of what's going on. So somebody requested. He's a. A chameleon. He's just adapted to the environment. Somebody requested Swabamante. You know all. You should see when he's around Albanian women.

How crazy that lias. He gets it off, though. I don't know how he does it. He's a chameleon. So Loyon goes, he was like, yes. See, this isn't an authentic, like, you know, Dominican music. Like, you know, this is like the Morenas. He pointed at me, the Moreno's like this. I said, Loyans. Stop fucking. He would have definitely called me a gringo. Yeah, yeah. 100%. 100%. He was, he was, he was, he was, he was, he was

fully in his bag, but Chata, salsa. He was moving. I had this in Rory a video. He packed a hookah correctly? Correctly is funny. Because you can pack a hookah. Dominicans pack it correctly, though, yeah. He's definitely on the sidewalk with a hookah on the walkout for sure. The sidewalk.

Yomi did a good job. The food was good. It was cool. It was good vibes. That's the only thing I did literally all weekend. I stopped by Yomi's house. So you had a good time. Nobody invited. Did they invite you? I asked me he was in New York. I sort of got an invite. Okay.

We were texting about something else, and then she said, are you in New York? I said, yeah. Then I look at her story like two hours later, and I see her doing Bichata with Loyon, and I was like, oh, wow, no invite. And they said, oh, it was Yomis.

Then I was like, wow. Yeah. I thought maybe this was something I really couldn't go to. Right. It was at Yom's crib? Right. Oh, that's why I asked you for you in New York.

I was like, you gave no context. Maybe I needed to grab something in Jersey. You didn't know. I know you. I know you. If you're in New York, you are in New York. You are not going to bedded. Yeah, you weren't.

I've, I've definitely purposely worked myself into the space where I don't get invited to shit. But do you ever feel a way that you don't get invited? No. Okay. Because those are the people I strongly dislike because I've worked my way into that too and I don't get offended because people typically know what my answer is going to be. So why even waste? Right. There are people that work their way into that box.

Yeah. And then actually get mad when they're in that box. Like, yo, you never. Oh, you don't scroll up. I've invited you to 10 things. Five of which you say. yeah, I'll be there, didn't show up. The other three you said,

all right, let me think about it. And then other two, you didn't even reply. You told me? Yeah, actually. No, because you wouldn't have, five of those you wouldn't have said maybe two. Yeah, that's a fact. Maybe two.

Yeah, that's a fact. Yeah, but I mean, I don't know, man. It's certain things that I, you know, Yomi cookout, I ain't gonna lie. But being on a two-hour commute is kind of crazy for a cookout, but I would have liked to have an invite, though, just because it's Yomi.

You know, I fuck with Yomis. Would you have been from Puerto Rico or St. Thomas? Like, what would have been your swag once you show up? No, Loyon is just a different, you know, I've seen Loyana in London. He was, all of a sudden, he was British. Yeah, for sure. I was like, yo, I don't even know. You just came in, you just

flew him from Africa. I don't know. You said, this is my bloke. I was like, that. Fuck is my bloke. Please. But you had a good time? We did. Can you cook? Can you cook? Can you cook? She looks like she could. Yeah, yeah. They were, they were rolling. Everything looked good.

Yeah. Some ladies in there was some Flowers? It was some flowers. Some flowers scattered around. Yes. It was nice. There were only two, there were only three boys there.

Hector was there. You guys have met Hector before. I've never met Hector. You have. You guys, he's Edens from with a curly hair. Oh, that's my guy. Yeah. I didn't know his name was Hector.

My bad. Yeah. Hector was there. Loyon and then one other guy. So it was three and it was like, how many women? Oh, eight. Oh, shit.

Okay. We could have helped with the ratio. Yeah, we could have balanced it out. Could y'all have. It could have. guys and eight girls. That sounds like a better part of me. I've been waiting for Roe to throw...

Four and a half because I would have been just like the gay bestie trying to help my friends. Yeah. We've been waiting for Rory to throw a cookout on his rooftop since he bought the house. Yeah, it's probably not going to happen. Yeah. Yeah, no. No, Fourth of July, did, you guys just left? No, I stayed there at the whole time.

I think I stayed the night. Yeah. Oh, no, the past two weeks, I threw way too many, so I'm done. Cookouts? They were after funerals. Oh, okay. All right, cool. But I realized why I don't throw cook out of them.

out after those two cookouts. I was like, this is, this is why I don't do this. Yeah. You stuck cleaning up everything. And there's like two or three people that hang out after. Like, you know, you need me to move. At this point, just go home. Just go home. Just get out my home. Just get the out. Get the fuck out. Yeah, just get out. Take a bag down, down the steps, throw it on the side of the curb. So you said you started watching the bear. I did watch the bear this weekend. You watched all three seasons? No, I'm midway through the second season. I love that show. You would really like it. I got to watch it. I definitely got to watch it. I've heard great things about it. And you know, Obviously, you know, our guy chef, Jamal, rest in peace.

He was, he held that position at 11 Madison. So I'm definitely going to make sure I watch it. It's a really, really good show. And I already had a lot of respect for people that work in kitchens and restaurants and hospitality in general. But that puts a whole new perspective to it. Like, oh, it's hell. Yeah, that shit looks chaotic. Well, like sort of fun if you're into that type of thing.

Yeah. I feel like I would thrive. You got to be passionate about that type of work. Like when you talk about working in, you know, a restaurant and chef and all of that thing, You have to, that's something that you have to be passionate about. You have to look forward to doing that. If not, you feel that pressure and overwhelmed and anxiety and all these things stressed out. It's just not a good combination.

But I've heard great things about the show to bear. Who's your favorite character, Roy? Your favorite character or your least favorite character? The facts are my favorite. Okay. Those are by far my favorite. Of course. As far as main character goes.

I wish John Malaney was in it more. because he's hilarious in season two. Okay. But I'm definitely going to go with the facts. And then, I mean, Richie's all over the place. So I think Richie might be up there. I hated him in the beginning,

but I'm starting to like him now. Carm kind of bothers me a lot. I guess I get it. You're from a dysfunctional family, but get your shit together. You're actually the most annoying and depressed person in this whole show. Everyone else is a little bit more stable than you are.

So, like, you don't see yourself in him a little bit? Yeah. Okay. I was just wondering, I tell myself all the time to get it to go. Okay. You're annoying people. When I was watching the show, I was like,

No one cares about your depression. When I was watching the show, I was like, oh, it's giving Rory T's. Like, it's... Our mothers are very similar, too. I was looking at Kea, like, wow, does she remind you with someone? And then when she drove the car into the house, I was like, never, my mom never took it that far. I got to watch that now. Yeah, you do.

And how they shoot it, it's so quick and chaotic. Like, everything about the show is great. I'm going to finish season three, and then we can talk about the whole show. Okay. Because that just came out, right, season three? Yes. So, see, you now trust my opinions when I tell you to watch things, so you should watch a House of Dragon because I know what you'll like. Three people this week and told me to watch House of Dragons. I think I think I have to give in. I think I just got to watch it. Thank you. Alex did not watch Game of Thrones. She's not a, like, magical fantasy person and she's addicted. She's at work watching it right now. Game of Thrones?

Not Game of Thrones. She's watching House of the Dragon. She never watched Game of Thrones. But I was like, she was like, do I need to watch Game of Thrones to watch House of the Dragon? I said, no, she's watching it at work. She just sent me a picture. Just trust my recommendations. Let me leave you. Maris is just trying to force us to look at dicks and magic and gay sex. You used to watch euphoria.

It was mad dick and euphoria. That is true. Like unnecessary dick too. Yeah, like it didn't even go with the plot. It was dick, you know? Which was, you know, weird. Because even like unnecessary tities, I'm not mad, but it's like, that didn't fit the plot. Why did you just do that?

Don't do it with dick that. Nobody has ever said that was an. unnecessary titty. No, I wasn't upset, but it was like, what was the point of that titty in here? No, I've never said that. Once I see a titty, I'm like, yo, thanks. I say thank you, like, at home by myself watching TV. Thanks.

Thank you. What do I owe for this surprise? Whoa, I needed that. Thank you. Like, you know what I mean? You've never seen something, a titty popped out and then somebody was mad. All those movies, like those National Lampoon movies that my pop showed me growing up, like Animal House, Caddy Shack, like all those.

Yeah. So many just unnecessary tities and bushes. Like, nothing. to do with a plot and then there's just naked women showering like next to the golf tea. Yes. And you're like, oh, what was that for? Because see, titty's are very unique. Everybody has sucked the titty. Not everybody has sucked the dick.

I guess that's pretty factual. Well, some women can't breastfeed, but I see where you're going. Not everyone has sucked the titty, mall. Who never suck no tities? Some women can't breastfeed. Plenty of women have never sucked a titty. Really? Yeah. There's some straight women in the world. A lot of women have never...

No, I'm saying that. You had to breastfeed. You're probably breastfed. A lot of people weren't, I wasn't breastfed. A lot of people weren't breastfed. You wasn't breastfed? But you stuck tities. No, my mother's boobs are way too huge for me to breastfeed, for her to breastfeed, me or my sister. Too big. That's the thing? That's the thing. I thought that was more milk. That's the thing. No, they were to her boobs were too big. We thought she could tighten those up. We wouldn't latch. A big boob? That's like, it's like a baby going to Costco. It's like a feast. That's seven fishes. Yo, on Christmas.

Yeah. A big boob is like going to fucking BJs and getting to fucking. It's a Costco card? You don't get the unnecessary jar, mayo. That's going to expire by the time you get it. You're going to have that jar on your fridge for seven years. Like, nobody's eating that much mayonnaise. You know what I'm saying? Big boob, you can't breastfeed?

I've never heard of that. Yeah. All right, I should have called it. Add in your mama's tidies to cheaper by the dozen problem solved. That movie's over before the credits roll. Everyone's happy. I never knew that a titty is too big to breastfeed. It can't.

Some kids won't latch because, especially if depending on like this shape of the boob and stuff like that. Because if you have to lift the boob up to feed the child, like it's a lot. I can see that being real issue. Because you can't breastfeed your kid down here. Shit, I've seen it. I've seen some of this hold that baby down.

I'm like, what is she? Oh, sorry. I didn't know the titty was drooping that lowdown. Yeah, like, I'm just saying big a titty. For a baby, I think it's like taking the kid to Dorney Park. I don't know. You kidding me? Where I'm a sexual predator that we found out last episode.

Yeah. Why you bought that back up? We'd be trying to forget the shit that you're saying. You just... We be trying to forget the shit. I'm not a politician. I own my shit. This is part of my history.

I love that about you, man. I'm not allowed within 15 feet of Dorney Park. Speaking of breastfeeding, though, I was moving around the city with Amara. It was nice out, wasn't too hot, so we were just walking around. Having a stroller to me is like my new favorite thing. Because it's for the first time in my life, I feel like a priority within commuting.

Like, the sidewalk really parts. for me with a stroller. People hold the elevator for me. People get up out their seats on the train for me. I now know what it's like to be on the other side when it comes to commuting. I feel like a woman. You found another privilege, huh?

One thing about white man, he's going to find another privilege. I'm telling you people stop. Cops will stop traffic for me. It's incredible. Oh, so that's why white people have their kids in the stroller to their nine. Yes. Another community too, but I ain't going to say it.

Listen. Oh, I know that community. very well. We're here, actually. Loyon's part of it. That's funny. I was thinking, though, once tomorrow is too big for the stroller and can really walk around. I think I might take the stroller where you can't see the baby and just use it when I walk around the city. Like no kid inside.

Yeah. Just use it as your book bag. Yeah. That's smart. Going up and down on the subway steps with an empty stroller is crazy. No, they have the elevators. at certain stops. Taking the elevator on the subway is crazy.

Oh, you don't have to pay for the subway. Cops all the time, open the door for me. You got it. Don't even swipe. I've seen that a lot. I've seen police do that at train stations. Like if somebody has a stroller, they definitely just let them in. Pretty much putting more cops at subway stations

is just letting people with kids in for free or cops that are on their phone. That's all that it's really added to. Every cop when I walk in a train station is like this. Yeah, when cops became so far, This is why Naomi. When did cops become so fine? Cops used to be ugly.

It used to be an ugly profession. It was one of them professions like plumbers where people are just ugly. You expect that. Except for movies. Cops are always attractive in movies. Yeah, of course, right. Denzel. But now they all got like low cuts and they all cleaned up beards and everything.

I'm like, oh, y'all are trying to like. Remember the sniper at Amar's first birthday? Yeah. Detective. Hmm. You didn't say that. when we were there. He doesn't like people to know. Not wanting people to know you a detective is hilarious.

He'd just be making up his profession all the time. But why wouldn't you want people to know your detective? I'm sure because he's black, he's gotten a lot of negative looks his way when he just says I work for the NYPD. I'm sure it hasn't been like the best conversation in the circles that he walks in like, yeah, I'm a cop.

Yeah, but that's why you need guys that you grew up with that you know a cool. That's what we were debating. You're talking to look at cops differently. Like, okay, no, I'm always a cop. Once we scared all the hos at Amara's birthday party, we were having that conversation of like, he grew up in Harlem, like, this is the type of person you would want to be a cop. Knows everybody in the neighborhood. Yeah.

Like, this is who, this is good policing in my opinion. Absolutely. So. That's a conversation we can have another day. What, a guy growing up in Harlem becoming a cop and then now patrolling the street to Because, right, no, because in ideals, that sounds like the perfect type of cop. But history has shown that that doesn't always, that's a different conversation we can get into a different day. But it doesn't always work out like that.

I mean, it could lead to some corruption for sure, because he knows everybody in the neighborhood. But one could also argue specifically in New York that may have been a safer time when the cops and the criminals were in. bed together. Yeah. Very true. A much safer time. What people don't understand about, because yes, there's corruption, obviously, and policing and having people in communities that they grew up in police, now policing those communities. The thing about it is people, the cops really don't, when you talk about, like, as far as drugs, right, police don't really get involved until, like, homicides and shit start happening. You can sell drugs for 30 years in a neighborhood

If there's no crime, no shooting, no killing Cops ain't tripping But once that starts See, that's what fucks the game up It's like, yo, somebody died, somebody got killed Because now it's like Kids are overdosed some Obviously with drugs

With drugs comes other things That comes just part of it But if you can keep that shit Away from what you're doing in your neighborhood I know neighborhoods that are notorious to this day. Every cop knows that's a dope block. They're selling

a shitload of heroin. There's a reason why the cop keeps walking. They're selling a shitload of heroin on this block. But guess what? There's no shootings over there. There's no killings. There's no deaths. Do what you got to do. I think with the drug thing though now, like not to say kids were not addicted to crack or anything like that.

I just feel like fentanyl is probably affecting kids much more than any other drug has. I don't have the stats on that. It's just going off my gut. Everything. So now I'm kind of with cops really cracking down. Oh, no. That's, again, that's, like, keep shit safe.

But fentanyl is death. For sure. That's like, you know what I mean? Like, people are dropping bodies dropping everywhere. It was something in the Bronx a few months ago. A dude was using his girlfriend's daycare as his drugstash. Oh, I did see that. That was crazy.

Baby found the fucking fentanyl. I think like in one of the sinks in the daycare on the floorboard or something. Got in contact with some fentanyl, baby died. Things like that is unfortunate, but it's also like, why would you even have that type of shit stashed in a daycare? Like, that's instant death if anybody comes into contact. People don't give a fuck. Yeah, but that's just being careless.

That's being stupid. And you deserve to spend the rest of your life in prison behind a dumb act like that. I don't give a fuck. For sure. That's just somebody that needs to be out of society. If you're willing to do that and have, have that type of drug around children, you deserve to go to jail for the rest of your life. That's just how I feel about that.

Before we get off the cop thing, another thing my friend was bringing up Adamar's birthday party, cops 100% go on YouTube, Facebook, the comments, and they piece together crimes because of y'all. So everyone on the internet saying, listen to me, cops doing their job is nothing to do with the internet. They are 1,000% solving crimes because you guys solve them first. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Like confirmed.

We all knew that, but I'm telling you, it is confirmed. You guys are actually solving murders. I know you guys deny it on Reddit. Vlad, you too. They 100% are solving crime. I think people, people, listen, man, if you, if you're one of those people that think that the police are not on social media, you're just ignorant. You think your girl as a fintza? Every detective has one.

Exactly. Like, it's just, it's a whole department set up to just be on social media, be on the internet, especially when you're talking about hip-hop and things like that with a lot of just drill rap, things like that. Like, detectives now probably have to be. have an easier job than they've ever had. Yeah, y'all just talk. Everybody talks about. Everybody literally has a camera in their hand all day, every day. There's cameras everywhere.

They're sharing videos everywhere. Being at the detective now is almost like working remote. Like, I can sit home and be like, all right, let me go lock this nigga up. Like, you're solving the crime. Like, you're on here talking about it. Not only you're talking about it online. You're putting it in your music. Not only you're putting in your music.

Now you're on YouTube, putting it in your videos. It's like you look at some of these dudes, they'd be on high-speed chases, and the first thing they do is go on Instagram live. Yep. Did y'all see that-st-Trap. Trappler-Ross has opened more cases than Olivia Benson. 100%. Without a doubt.

Without a doubt. But that's because it's... It was a cold case before Trappler-Ross showed up. But that's because it's right here in front of your face. It's like, here it is. This is what it is. And I'm not really shitting on the people on the internet playing detective. It does speak to how lazy cops can be.

Well, cops can't solve something unless people give them some information. Yeah. Which is why. And they can't really use the internet, but it can lead them to the path to find real evidence. It's breadcrumbs. Somebody left for breadcrumbs. It's like, okay, we can go find this person and talk to them now. But cops can't solve many, if not any of these crimes unless they're either on camera

or somebody is telling them something. It's just common sense. How else is this cop going to solve this case unless somebody gives them some information or unless somebody has it on camera. Do they're going to just be like, they're going to guess it? No, they have to, no, they have to talk. They have to prove it in the court of law. They only do that if people are giving them information. That's why when people sit here and be like, yeah, nah, nah, nah, I ain't really tell them nothing. What you mean you ain't really tell him nothing? Either you told him something or you didn't. Because the first thing your lawyer

tell you if you get arrested, shut the fuck up. Don't say nothing. Lawyer. Two words. Lawyer. I'm not say nothing else. Get Mr. Yere. Yeah. Get Mr. Yere on the phone. I'm not talking to y'all. And another thing, when people say, shut the fuck up, don't tell them nothing. It don't mean lie.

Please don't lie. Only thing worse than lying to the law is telling the truth to the law is lying. Please don't lie y'all. Once they got you in the lie, that's it. You cooked. They're about to spin you around like a top. And with the internet, too, like, the cops could solve these as easy as you guys doing the internet.

They just don't give a fuck. But the more people that talk about it on the internet is the more pressure that the city gets on certain things. Y'all are making, which I think is actually a good part of the internet. Put the pressure on the cops to have to solve this shit. So there's good and bad with that. Speaking of lawyers, though, are you guys on, presume innocent yet? No.

No. You got to text us. We got to just get a movie chat and just like be reminded to watch. That's the show he was telling us about. What is that on? It's on Apple TV. Yeah, yeah. With Jake Gyllenhawn hog.

Binge that tonight. Because I don't think the finale is this week, but it's getting close. But they got renewed for a second season. I thought it was supposed to be one of those limited series. It's not. That show is probably one of the best series this year. Okay. I'll check it out. Presumed innocent. Jake Gill and all went crazy. Where is he in your actor list? I think he's kind of underrated.

He is not, not in Maine. Still a star, but I just don't think he gets brought up the way. He's no Chris Rock, but he's definitely up there. Definitely not a Chris Rock. No, for sure. Yeah, I loved him and prisoners with, what's Wolverine's name? He's Wolverine now. He's just Wolverine now.

His real name no more. Hugh Jackman. Hugh Jackman. Prisoners, that was a movie that I think was underrated. A lot of people didn't even see that movie. And I was like, bro, this was one of the best movies. That was 2013. That was definitely one of the best movies to come out that year.

Jarhead, I think, is super underrated. One of my favorite movies. You're a big Brokeback Mountain fan. I love Brokeback Mountain. I mean, you're trying to make a joke, but what if I am? No, listen. It's a beautiful story. Listen, I'm not mad.

If you like Brokeback Mountain, then, you know, listen, binge it. What a twist. What a kid. I had no idea binge it. It's one movie. Binging a movie is crazy. So watching it in its entirety. Just sit down and watch the movie.

But watch it again, like soon as it go off. You binge that movie. South Pole was good too. Yeah, South Paul was great. South Paul was a good movie. Yeah, Jake Jinnon-Haw is a really good actor. That's the draft that we should do. Actors?

White actors? Yeah, but with our white vocalists. Yeah, we're really for the culture. White actors. Like, who's your favorite white actors? Like, damn, like, all right. Well, who's your favorite white actress? Your favorite white actor?

Your favorite white actress. I'm only saying white because this is me and all and Rory are black. And we have like a different, our faves are different. So we're not all going to pick Denzel, fucking Will Smith and... Favorite white actress?

Pallie Berry. Yes. Favorite white actress? Jamie Lee Curtis Now I'm thinking about titty's again my bad She's in the bear Is she? Yeah she plays the crazy ass mom

I had a crazy crush And smokes the role I had a crazy crush on Jamie Lee Curtis as a kid Really insane crush She was a hottie I mean I came around when a freaky Friday came out So I didn't really see her

Yeah no Jamie Curtis For who she was Jamie Lee Curtis She was my grandma She was my grandma the moment I got to the big screen Probably Merrill Street Okay Yeah I like Morrow Street

that's probably my favorite white actress. I typed in white actresses on Google and they have Halliberry under white actresses. I'm not, yeah, I don't want to, you have a virus. I don't want to get that. You have a virus.

Too much porn. Yeah, there's something wrong with your laptop, yeah. I think I'm going to go Nicole Kidman. Okay. Nicole Kidman, like she just always gives rich housewife.

Like I just, Nicole Kidman, Reese Witherspoon. Mm. Yeah, Reese is up there. No Angelina Jolie? Oh, yeah. Angelina Jolie would probably be my second favorite.

It's so sad. I don't think of Angelina as white. Yeah, Angelina Jolie. Angelina Jolie. She's spicy white, but she's white, but she's white as fuck, but she's spicy white. Yeah. She's so white that she adopts children. Margo.

African children. Yeah. Margo Robbins. Margo is. Oh, she's like the new. That's a personal pick. That's a personal favorite. Yeah, that's one of my personal face.

She's a show. God. She's definitely like, French. freshman cover by herself. Julian is not here, but if he was here, like, smoke show. White boys say shit like that, she's a smoke show. Scarlett Johansson is. Smoke show.

Smoke show. Yeah, she's up there. Scarlet's up there. Am I corny for saying Sandra Bullock? No. No, not corny. She's definitely one of the, she's definitely. Julia Roberts.

God damn. Nobody said Julia? I mean, I thought that went without saying. No, but say it. You should say it. Julia Roberts definitely wanted to. Best white actresses of all time. Jessica Lange is like my sneak pick.

She's really, really good. I discovered her from American Horror Story. That's how I discovered her. She's good. Oh, man. Nobody picked our girl? Who? Damn, Ann Hathaway.

Damn. Who are you thinking about? No, what's our girl? Another smoke show. What's her name? Why you point out of P? I'm terrible with names. Keep all this.

damn because i'd love to see what he lands on don't tell me okay we don't you're giving us a no she's one of the she's one of the she's one of the kate winslet no she's one of the baddest she's one of the you said pamela anderson no not fucking pamela anjohn fucking for my favorite movie maggie smith casino oh uh what is what is um god damn i know what is ginger's name yeah ginger fucking she's ginger she's she is ginger though. Sharon Stone. Smoke show.

Yeah. Can't go wrong. Are you kidding me? We said Natalie Portman already. Jody Foster, sleeper. Jody Foster, yeah. Silence of the lambs alone is like, she's forever cemented,

just from that role. Outside of Google having Hallie Berry on the white actresses list, this is just how sexist the world is, right? So the first Google search, white actresses, they just give us a bunch of pictures and names. Then after that,

it's most beautiful Caucasian actresses, 900 beautiful white actresses, 40 actresses in their 40s that still look beautiful. That still look beautiful. The 400 plus most beautiful women in Hollywood. 150 female actresses, who switched it up. That's the first page. All about their looks. Of course.

How do we not name Rachel McAdams? First of all, I'm sorry, I'm going back. Rachel McAdams is my number one. Smoke show. She beats... Julian's going to be so pissed we did this topic. Oh, my God. That's why I want to keep going, because I know.

So next episode when he's back, let's just do black actresses. Yeah, got to, naturally. Get the white ones off now. Charlize Theron. Smoke show. Nobody said her yet? Damn, y'all ain't say Cameron Diaz. I never knew because she went to high school with Snoop.

And her last name was Diaz. So I never really knew what. Yeah, like, where we at with her? She went to Long Beach, Polly. Stop. Like, she's really a Crip. She would have survived during the Holocaust. That's a white woman.

Is she, wait. With Diaz? I'm staying away from it. Was it Anne Frank Diaz? What you mean she was a survivor? What did she have to do with the Holocaust? It's a blonde hair, blue eyes joke. Oh, okay, got you.

Did I tell you about the time I really went to, like, the house that Anne Frank lived in when I was in Amsterdam? No, you never told us that. It was a holland. Did you go up to the attic? Yeah. That shit was very, I got. Spacious? No, I got claustrophobic standing in that shit.

I'm like, wait, the family. was in here? The family was in here? Insane. I mean, you've never been on the train during rush hour? Yes. You know. Yeah, but I have never lived on the train during rush hour.

It's the difference. I get off. How long were they in the attic? I thought it was just for like a while the Nazis just went through the town. I don't know. I didn't read that required reading. But going to that house and like being in that attic, like just standing in that small space, I was like, bro, this is insane.

761 days in the secret annex. That was, it was crazy. 761 days. Yeah. It was crazy being in a small space. I'm not trying to downplay this, I promise. I'm really asking because I did not read the diary of Anne Frank. Why couldn't they just go downstairs?

Because I guess the Nazis were there for 761 days? In the town, yeah, in the neighborhood. Oh, wow. Yeah. Yeah, that's crazy. Yeah. Oh, they probably occupied that town. Mm-hmm.

Wow. That's crazy. It was, it was wild. It was wild. But it was, you know, it was, I guess, cool to kind of, to like see it and stand in the space but when you really start thinking about it while you're standing there and you're looking around like bro your family lived in this space family insane insane where do you guys rank mall in the anne frank attic or tony ao in nelson mandela so

rory was who's above no nelson mandela so you know everything don't need to be ranked i think that's the problem podcast but rank it but look what we're ranking though what are we we just said complex is our new favorite platform so we have to do lists. We have to list everything. Seeing Nelson Mandela's prison cell, though, is definitely... Oh, man. That's... As as powerful

might be the word. Just stand in that space and just imagine, you know, what Nelson Mandela was dealing with and going through for those... How many years he spent in prison? Well, I mean, there's a whole conspiracy, the Mandela effect. It was like 80 years, and then

he lived to be like 140. Yeah. Crazy. 27 years. 27 years. Wow. What do you do for 27 years? How do you, how,

I'll do boys said in, Boise and Hood? Pump eye, man, read books. Like, like, and they're pumping eye and books and shit, you know what I'm saying? I don't.

Did they give him books? Probably not. I highly do. That was the whole point he was in jail. That's why he came out and wrote a best cell. This nigga knows too much. My bad.

That was a, I shouldn't, my bad, but I mean, I can make. You know what's funny? I'm black. They probably, I probably phrased it just like. Oh, 100%.

This nigga knows too much. No books for him. I mean, thank God Matt Damon made a movie about rugby. Anyways, that was a great joke. Fuck y'all. It was a really good fucking joke. Fuck y'all. All right, Roy, we saw a guy, one of our favorite MC's favorite rappers. Lupe Fiasco has been making some rumbling, some noise. I'm trying to tell y'all, Twitter spaces during the weekend is lit.

Twitter spaces is That's where it's at Nobody goes out and goes to the clubs anymore They just sit on Twitter spaces argue And try to ruin people's careers I understand I understand the point of a Twitter space

I understand it I get it I just don't understand if it's necessary Well I mean is anything necessary Well some things are necessary Absolutely

But I just feel like Twitter spaces is like, it's kind of like the Q&A room for like something you've said or done on the internet for you to explain yourself, which then is clipped and turned into you having to do more explaining of yourself. Well, I mean, I do like that the faceless avie people, not to say that it ever reveals your identity, but it does make you have to stand on some of the things that you've said. Like, if you get a lot of traction being anonymous and saying crazy, things. Everyone gets in a Twitter space is the next step for you to move on in your trolling world is to go on spaces and all right, let's hear you at least talk. You can sit all day and

come together with these 140 characters that you worked on for a whole week. Yeah. All right, what's up? Let's have the conversation then. And then you end up looking stupid. So I like it in that regard. You can still be anonymous, but there's a little bit more of a personality to the tweets when you do that. But I mean, listen, the internet is ruthless, man. First they knight you, then they're going to goodnight you. Now, of a sudden, Lupe Fiasco doesn't have a career, has been trashed forever. I mean, this is why. He's not smart.

Yeah, I've seen people trying to bring up clips of him at some of his classes at MIT. He's basically logic. I saw that tweet going around. Yeah. That's crazy. This is Lupe. What the fuck is going on in the world? If you don't know about Lupe Fiasco in the history of Lupe Fiasco, and I don't know what to tell you, but he's definitely one of the.

the sharper minds that we have in our culture when it comes specifically to hip hop. So he's been on Twitter spaces and talking and things like that and been very vocal about his, I guess, feelings. I see it's similar to what I see a lot of people of like, yo, I used to be a big Kwali fan until he got on Twitter. Then I started to dislike him because I got to know him more.

That's what I think they've been doing with Lupe this weekend. It's like, all right, so you just want him to shut up, just shut up and rap so I can have a better. image of you? Like, you don't want him to be himself? Yeah, you don't want him to explain and tell you more about the man that he is and his thinking. Damn you, Kwali. I'm never listening to Get By anymore

now that I know I disagree with something that you said. So he, uh... Well, Twalib, he had a little bit more than what... It wasn't just people... I don't know. I just know that's how people... I was going to say he was harassing this girl on Twitter for like a while. I vaguely remember that. I didn't look too much into it. It's a little

different than what was. Wasn't his reasoning that that woman was harassing his family. I don't know all the details. I think he, it was one of those like, you can't get mad at my response once you do something. Oh, okay. I think she had said something and did something and Kwali just took it to a whole other level. Yeah. When they go, when they go low, we go low. Yeah, we'll go to hell. Got you. Um, but I don't even really want to comment on that because I don't fully know that entire thing. Nor have I ever followed Quali on socials. I like him as a rapper and that's where I've drawn the line. I don't know him or read his think pieces. So what is, so what is,

Lupe's, what are people upset about? Obviously, his stance and his opinions and feelings towards, I guess, Kendrick. Well, I tried to keep up with it over the weekend. I wasn't really on Twitter like that, but Sunday night and this morning, we're recording this Monday morning, I was trying to figure out exactly what the entire conversation was. And this, I feel like, is the first Twitter spaces where the whole seven hours isn't recorded. I could only find, like, a few clips that were out of context and I'm not just going to go based off a bunch of random Twitter comments to say that's what happened. The clips I did see, the main one, was like four minutes and he was discussing that you should have a PhD in hip hop if you are going to

say who belongs in the culture and who doesn't. You should have a PhD in hip hop. In hip hop. You're going to say. Which we know doesn't exist. And I think Lupe was trying to suggest to everyone in that Twitter spaces, who the fuck are you to say who can be in the culture? culture and who can't be in the culture. What have you contributed to this culture? What do you know about this culture? Who the fuck are you? Okay. I think that's what he would. I'm not mad at that that thought and then I saw a lot of think piece tweets that were like, well, the point of hip hop is that people can survive and persevere without having to get a degree from a university and they suppressed everyone that was in hip hop to go to college. I'm like, I don't think that's what he was getting at. Right. I think you're taking this think piece too literal of what he was saying. Like you guys can't say who can be in the culture. who can't just because you have a Twitter account. Who are you and what have you contributed to even make a comment about someone that continually contributes to hip hop

and you're saying they don't belong in here? Who are you? That's what I think, I think, Lupe was getting at in that conversation. That's just my point of view. I think it's just funny to people that we start to say don't belong in the cultures. Like, do y'all know some of the motherfuckers we let in?

Like, you know the things that they've done? Like, we got some. Me. We got some people. We got some people in the culture already that have been here for some years that we ain't going to start with, you know, at the top. Let's start at the bottom. A lot of these motherfuckers that's just walking around, they need to go.

But I do understand what Lupe is basically saying. Because who are we, who, if you're going to say somebody doesn't belong in the culture, first of all, what does that mean? You don't belong here. What does that mean? Because hip hop has always been a culture that has been open. doesn't matter your race, doesn't matter your gender, doesn't matter. It's always been an open space for people to express themselves creatively.

It's always been a voice of the inner cities, of the communities. I mean, I don't know when you say certain people don't belong. Like, what is that? Now, we do know that certain people only take from the culture. For sure. And those are the type of people that, you know, we should definitely try to lock out and keep out because you don't want to just let people in that's just taken and not giving and helping to elevate the culture.

But I don't know if we can just start saying, yo, people don't belong here unless they're just taking and fucking weakening the culture and, you know, damaging and hurting the culture, then we can have that conversation. And again, admittedly, I only got a clip of the hours that he was on spaces. I'm only speaking to that because that's all I could find

and that was recorded. I agree with him because I have said a bunch of times. I'm a guest here and I think guests need to contribute I think guests can benefit I think guests sometimes are liked more than the people that are really there and that's fucked up

but that's unfortunately how things go but guests need to contribute and guests need to understand that they are guests so I've never said who belongs in the culture don't it's not my place to say that so I feel him I don't have a quote unquote PhD

in this culture because I'm not a part or born into this culture I'm a guest of it so I don't ever say who belongs and who doesn't I can say who I like musically and who I don't like musicly. That's your taste.

That's a different opinion. Yeah, that's a different conversation. But to say if someone belongs here or doesn't That's what I'm saying. What is that? What is that? And who is the person that can dictate that Is what Lupe I think is trying to get at? The culture has always been like a cookout. You always invite people to the cookout. People bring things. Yo, bring some ice. And we just talked about how guests don't clean up when I was throwing a cookout. So I get it. There's a lot of guests that show up, eat and don't help clean up.

They come empty handed. They leave with a whole two aluminum pans. You like a fam, you didn't even bring nothing. How you leaving with you? They go with a to go plate right to rock and roll. Exactly. Straight. Straight. Right. We know where you got that plate from for him. You showed up in a white Iverson jersey and then you went right to rock and roll. Oh, that was good, Rory. Go Rory. Go Rory. Go Rory. What's your beef? What's your beef of post? I don't have a No, no, no. You got a beef for Post Malone. Why don't white for time? Because you've alluded to that a couple times. I don't have a- Okay, maybe not a beef. Okay, I like Post Malone's music. Like even the recent music,

I think he is a great pop artist that has a lot of range. But I think everyone would be lying to themselves if Post Malone did not show up, make his bones in hip hop, and then leave hip hop, and then shit on hip hop in interviews. Okay. All right.

Like that quote, and listen, we're not all tied to every last thing we've ever said. Post Malone, I would have appreciated if he would have walked back his statements of saying that hip hop doesn't have any feeling. I'm paraphrasing his quote, but it was close to that. that I don't go to hip hop for feeling or lyrics.

It's not that. I thought that was insane after you made your career with White Iverson, which was clearly biting from hip hop. And then you moved on to be a pop rock all over the place, star. Well, to be fair, there's more to his quote than what you're saying. What he said was if you're looking for lyrics, if you're looking to cry, if you're looking to think about life, don't listen to hip hop. There's great hip hop songs where they talk about life and they spit that real shit.

But right now there's not a lot of people talking about shit. And I think that's an extremely, what was this, 2017? Yes. Extremely ignorant quote to music that was out in 2017 and hip-hop. Okay. But there was a lot of bullshit out. And there has always been bullshit out. There's always been bullshit out.

But you guys have. We just hear the bullshit more because we have access to the bullshit. Yeah. That's just technology has given us access to more bullshit. Before you had to kind of like, you had to go find bullshit because you wasn't going to hear it. pushed more to these days. Oh, that's for sure. But that's because the bullshit is pushed more these days because we can hear

bullshit more these days. If we couldn't hear more bullshit, we wouldn't even know that it really existed. But it's just now anybody can upload their music on the same platform that Beyonce can. You understand what I'm saying? So it's kind of like, you're going to get the bullshit eventually because I'm here listening to Beyonce, but then I just stumbled upon this fucking trash-ass record. It happens. There was great music out in 2017 that had feeling, that had emotions, that had, that was real.

Like, that's, you know, that is- We talked about 2016 being one of the greatest years of all time. In music. So, and I believe, even though I do make jokes on this podcast, you guys know, I always say, you should tread fucking lightly when you're a guest here on how you seriously talk about hip-hop, especially when you're benefiting from it. Yeah. And Post-Malone did.

And we know where Post-Malone was at that cusp in 2017. of becoming a superstar. Every word that you say needs to be calculated. So to come in and even start your sentence with, if you're looking for lyrics or looking to cry, don't go to hip-hop is insane to me. So I don't have a beef with Post Malone. You just didn't like that.

I didn't like that knowing how he came into the game. It was hip-hop. But, I mean, he's an incredible musician. I saw that clip and I saw people saying he's going down the same path as anyone else. I hope he's okay. Yeah, I mean, I hope. You know, you never want people to fall victim to their. He's a very talented artist.

Addictions and things like that. Very super talented, superstar. I love Post Malone. I think he's dope. Don't like, you know, what he had to say in 2017. But I've said things that people don't like, so I get it. I understand. A. Sab Rocky has said some absolute bullshit at the wrong time.

Yeah. That he was just, he was getting Gucci and Soho. I don't give a fuck about black people dying by the police. Mm-hmm. Artists have said some bullshit. Absolutely. Some wild shit. That slipping on seamen, like he got

a wild fact. I don't know if those are in the same. Yeah. Damaris, right next to each other. That slipping on semen. I get it. I know that you didn't like that. A wild nigga, like... But I get it. So, yes, artists have said some bullshit, and I think it's unfair to tie every last person

to every word that they've said. Yeah. But I do. It doesn't mean we forget about it. Myself included. I've said some bullshit. And even if I didn't mean it and I apologize for it, doesn't mean everyone should forget. I said it. You said it. We've all said shit that is, you know, look back as like, what the fuck was I talking about? And you won't thin ice until we figure out if you are you.

What are you? What are you, Post? We just need to know what you are. That's all. But yeah, that's all I saw with a Lupe shit. Everyone says he's a Kendrick Aater. Well, he's been, he's been, he's had, I think he's wanted to dance with Lupe. I mean, well, Kendrick.

Kemp, Lupe has been wanted to dance with Kendrick for some years. And people are saying Kendrick is obviously hasn't responded. It's been ducking at, that collab. I think Lupe has gotten the Kendrick Hater tag for a little too long. Yes, he did make a comment years ago about Kendrick isn't like the greatest with metaphors. But I felt like a lot of us said that. He makes a, he's an incredible lyricist and incredible musician, artist, everything. Makes great albums.

But like his rhyme schemes, he's not a punchline rapper, like that's never been Kendrick's thing. And people took that and ran with it with Lupe being a Kendrick hater. Then he went and did that interview with Hot 97 where he told him. Rosenberg like you're on Kendrick's nuts, which everyone said to Pete, Pete included. Yeah, I'm a Kendrick Dickrider. What do you want for me? That's about it. In that same interview with Hot 97, Lupe said, I was jealous of Kendrick because he had the ecosystem of TDE and I didn't have that. He's around so many talented artists that care about creativity. He was in a circle of new breath, and I was jealous of that. I wish I had that. Anytime I got with a new artist, I said, you should find

other rappers that are better than you and just sit in the studio with them the way they do it at TDE. People forget that part of the interview. The same way we may have forgot the second part of that Post Malone quote. People forget the second half of that Lupe interview. I don't think he's the Kendra Kater

we make him out to be. I don't think he is either. I think obviously, you know, if he has an issue with somebody, I don't think it's a personal thing. I just think he feels like, you know, Lupe is a hip-hop head. He's a rapper.

He's an MC. So if he feels like people are saying, oh, this dude is dope. And he's like, I don't think he's that dope. I don't think he's wrong for saying that. It's nothing wrong with saying, I don't think this dude is as dope as y'all think he is.

And also, back to the Phy thing, we're talking about Lupe Fiasco. I think Lupe's allowed to say, who's trashing him's not? Absolutely. Lupe? Yeah. I'm not mad.

Listen, I get it. I don't think it's a personal thing. I just think that he just expressed something from his mindset of what hip-hop is and what the culture is and what MCN is. And, you know, this is, again, it's Lupe, and he's entitled. to that.

I think it might also be a personal thing mixed into. I'm sure. I think I don't know. What he is saying has credence, but I do think that there might be a little spice sprinkle in. And I think once somebody, because you can say something about somebody

and once their fans pick it up and label you a hater, you can kind of like become a hater because you're bitter that people have labeled you a hater. That's what you guys do to me. So now you're going to stand on your square. So now you're going to stand on.

on your square even harder like yeah now now it's fuck that niggins since y'all you know what i'm saying like i think there might be a little bit if y'all gonna keep saying that then all right i'll speak my mind even more then yeah i hate good kid mad city um but this is all i know as far as the lupa kendrick thing i'm open to being wrong there could be way more hate that lupa has spute about kendrick that i don't know about i'm just going based off what i saw demaris i promise i'm not about to make this a jake kendrick thing no god just quickly the other thing i saw lupay talk about this weekend was that maybe Drake should buy the one-third stake in reasonable doubt because Dame did put it up for sale and over the weekend posted again and said, hey, I'm here

for the highest bidder. One-third of reasonable doubt right here. And Lupe commented, said, Drake should take that. And then everyone was like, he's not part of the culture. Why would you say that? This and that. I think we have the perfect broker between Drake Biggs and Jay. Do you think that? I think he's sitting to the left of me. Oh, yeah. I think I'm the best. I think you can get that deal done and get your 10%.

What do brokers get? Oh, no, sometimes like three or five percent. Oh, I mean, that's... Get your 3%. Listen, man. What Dame needs to do is... Sell it back to Jay. It's stopped trying to sell it, period.

Well, maybe he needs the money, ma'am. He doesn't need the money. No, he's being forced to sell it by the courts. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. He owes money in a lawsuit and he did not have the liquid cash, so they're going after his assets. And they quoted what that asset was worth. Listen, based off of things that I know personally, that I know to be true, none of this blog shit in posts, this situation could have been resolved a very long time ago. We've talked about that, though.

So because of whatever reasons on whoever's behalf, it isn't resolved. I'm just saying as somebody that just knows. It's just like, just stop. Well, I don't know, but one plus one can equal two. If there wasn't a beef, Biggs and Jay would have just bought Dames portion. Like, it doesn't take an insider to look at that and go, this would have been resolved. That's why, but that's why I'm... I think Jay and Bigs have enough money to buy Dame out on that.

But it's not even... So clearly it's a personal issue. We don't need insiders to see that at all. But it's not even that. It's, you know, I just think that it's just gotten too much ego and emotion. You know what I mean? So when you start to see that, it's just like, now we're at an embarrassing point. Yeah.

When you start to see posts about it and that shit came up on my feet almost like an ad. And I was like, I was like, I was like, bro, we're talking about one of the greatest pieces of hip hop music that we've ever had. And we're treating it like, it's just like. a pair of like an old jersey that you found in the garage that you just putting on fucking eBay. Nobody wins. It's pride and ego. Yeah, it's just like, bro.

But unnecessary pride and ego. Just stop. You know what I'm saying? Just stop, bro. Like, there's still time and space to, you know, talk and hash things out and get to a better place and just where we don't have to see this type of shit happening. because like I said, now you got people saying, oh, well, you should sell it to this person

because then it'll be safe. That shouldn't even be a conversation that's being had. Well, it was Cameron Mace was the rumor a few months ago. Yeah, but that shouldn't. Even that doesn't need to be a conversation. It doesn't need to be talking about, yo, you should take that and sell it to. That don't even, we, that shouldn't even be happening

because it ain't happening with some of the greatest rock and roll albums of all time. Of course. It ain't happening with some of the greatest R&B albums of all time. It ain't happening with some of the greatest country album Well, actually, I think that speaks to how ill Dame J&Biggs owning reasonable doubt is, because all those rock albums aren't for sale because the label owns all the master. The artists could never even sell it.

That's true. That speaks doubt. Because this is more of a unique situation that we need to protect and we need to fucking honor forever and be like, yo, like, no, you own it. He owns it. That's it. Let it stop there because, like you said, a lot of people can't even say that they own those classic albums. Yeah. So that's what now is to a point where it's almost like we treating this shit like a pair of fake Jordan Mons or something. Like what do we? Yeah. Like you know what I'm saying? This shit is on you don't put it on goat next or stock X? Where's this shit going next? That and but that's what that's how I'm looking at it. It's like where's this thing going next? Like what happens next. So in conclusion you won't broker the deal between Drake and Biggs. Absolutely not. I won't be a part. Be a good percentage, man. Won't be no, won't be no brokering happening. You'd make a good real estate agent. Probably. But, yeah, it won't be no, I don't think it'll ever be sold.

I think it'll, it'll belong, it'll stay with who it belongs with. I did get around, this just reminded me, I did get around to watching the Taylor Swift versus Scooter Braun documentary where one episode is Taylor's side, the other is Scooter side. How scared are we? I know you just got it from Ariana Grande fans. Taylor Swift might be full of shit, man. As far as what?

I was on her side that first episode, because you know, Scooter bought her Masters. And that was the whole thing. She was re-recorded and everything. We covered it for years. So this documentary, which I want to say is on Apple TV, I could be wrong. Again, first half is Taylor's side, second half is Scooter's side.

Once we got into Scooter Side and the gentleman, I think Scott's something that owned the label that owned Taylor's Masters, he flat out showed that he told Taylor you could buy your master's back. And she ignored it. And then Scooter was like, Wait, they're available?

Bet. Why wouldn't I buy those? I don't really know who the bad guy is in this. And I think it might be another term of Taylor playing victim. Yeah, see, look at you, nervous. Yeah, I'm terrified.

Shit, I ain't fucking no Taylor Swiftie. They already were on my ass before. I'm good. Word? Is Swiftie's got you? Yeah, I made a TikTok when Taylor beat out Sizzah for Almond a year at the Grammys.

I'm going to TikTok about it. I mean, you got to take that L. Take that on the chin. Yeah, it's all good. I guess it depends if you believe the owner of the label or Taylor, but it seemed when I saw both sides objectively. I have no dog in this race. I don't care about scooter.

I don't care about Scott. I don't care. I don't care. Don't you say believe the owner of a label or the artist. I'm usually going to believe the artist. It's different when there's evidence on one side and no evidence on the other. And one side has played victim for a lot of shit that came out that they were lying in playing victim.

Okay, but it doesn't make, it doesn't. doesn't make sense for her to lie about that. Why wouldn't he want to sell the masters back to Taylor, who is a billionaire? Yeah. I mean, like just logic didn't make sense to me and that whole thing. And listen, I don't, I'm not here to say that Scooter Braun is this upstanding, amazing citizen. I don't know enough about him to say yes or no.

But if I have that much money and I'm Scooter Braun and I find out that Taylor Swift's masters are available and I am a high power music manager. We're supposed to be mad at that guy for buying the masters? No, I don't think you'd be mad at Scooter for that. It's a fucked up ecosystem as is. Right. We can get mad at that, but someone's going to tell Scooter not to Scooter? Right.

It doesn't make, yeah, that doesn't make, when you lay it down like that, that doesn't make sense. He didn't go behind anyone's back and the head of the label claims, which I don't see why they, they had a great relationship and on top of that. This was the whole kicker. This was a big kicker where I may side with a label for the first fucking time of my life. Taylor's dad owns 3% of the label. Hmm. Mm-mm.

He made over $100 million off the sale to Scooter. He would have done, and it's not like there's some Joe Jackson, Michael Jackson relationship between Taylor and her father. Right. Like, they're fine. Yeah. That doesn't add up.

Did Taylor know that the deal with Scooter and then was about to go through? No, which I think on both sides, that is clear. But after according to the other side, Taylor passes and doesn't buy her masters, it sounds fucked up, but legally, I don't know if that's really her fucking business. Did she? She was mad because I guess there's some

beef between her and Scooter, which by the way, both sides of the dock never explained why they were beefing. Never got to it. Well, because they weren't involved in the dock. Where they were, with Scooter nor Taylor were involved in it. All the insiders, no one fully said why they ever had a beef. Most people were like, we have no idea really where it came from. But

she was so pissed that her masters got sold to somebody she hates. Ah, that's what it is. But they were like, you tried to sell them to you. So they tried to sell them to sell the master to Taylor. She straight up said no. She didn't want to buy it. I can't see that. There was no response.

See, that's where when you say no response. But they showed all the communication of saying they were up for sale. So I don't know if that falls on Taylor's manager that, but I can't see a manager that when you're managing Taylor's. Swift, her masters are up for sale, you get an email. I'm like, I'll get around to that on Monday. Yeah, no. Yeah.

That's where I'm like, nah, her manager definitely told her, her masters were up for sale. I don't know, man. When it comes to shit like this, I'm just never ready to believe the label. I'm sorry. No, I'm with you? I'm just never ready. They just laid it out and it just made,

once they said her pops had like a 3% stake or some shit in the label when Taylor signed to them. Because they were like a small JV when she moved to Nashville. They weren't crazy big at that time. So her dad got a stake in the label. Dad moved the whole fucking family over to Nashville, got stake in the label and stayed part of it. He is an owner.

He has to be involved in these conversations. There's no fucking way he's not telling his daughter, yo, you can buy your master's back. Right. No way. And you're about to tell me Taylor's dad is doing something for money when he could actually just still get the same amount of money? Right.

From his daughter. Yeah, I don't know, man. I just don't, when you do shit like this, I get how they laid it out in the dock. It could all be bullshit. I'm just telling you what happened. I just want to hear Taylor Side. No, we got Taylor Side first.

The whole time I was sitting here like pro Taylor Swift. I was like, oh, this is fucked up. And then immediately in the beginning second episode, Scooter Side or the label side, yeah, here's the email we told her. No response. I don't know if I believe that. I don't know. You think Pia?

Photoshop the email? No, not that. I just, I believe there was more communication after that email. Mm-hmm. And they probably... They were probably haggling prices

or something like that. Yeah, I could see where Taylor was in negotiation with numbers and Scooter probably came in like, look, this is where I'm willing to pay right now and like, let's just get it done.

Like, oh, y'all can keep negotiating with Taylor. And they probably were like, all right, fuck it, let's just... Like, I can see it being... I could see Taylor not knowing but I feel like Taylor's, side would have said like we were negotiating and then Scooter swooped in for a higher bid and then

the label owner Scott was like, all right, well, I'm going with the highest bid. They straight up said she knew nothing. She found out when everyone else found out that Scooter bought her her master's. And I see that that's fucked up. In itself, right there, that's wrong. She shouldn't find out about that when we all find out about it. Oh, I mean, I agree. On a moral level for sure. There's something. This, this just too many signs. But if you don't reply when I'm trying to sell you your master's back. No, I get that part.

But again, we don't know what happened with that, what Taylor was doing in her life and the world. Like, it's just so many different variables. I'm just saying, if you tell me, yeah, she found out about the deal being done when the rest of us did, that already that's a problem. Then I started thinking how much money Scooter Braun has that you could afford Taylor Swift's masters. Yeah, big money.

I'm saying. Something ain't. Well, no. If you go through Scooter. between Beavs, Ariana Grande. I get that. But I'm just saying something. Kanye to Tom.

Keep going. He has just as much money as his clients. Yeah, but there's something there that's still not sitting right. I'm with you. I'm kind of with tail on. And it was, you know, one of those docs

that, like, VH1 used to do where it's everyone but the people were talking about are involved with it. It's a bunch of insiders, like, you don't really know. But it was interesting. I encourage people to watch it. It was definitely a,

a look into a rarity in the music industry where an artist could even buy their masters and how fucked up it is, even if they have the option. Right. So, you know, I don't know, sell it to Drake. Did you hear Childish Gambino's new album?

I did. I listened to it in the gym. I got through one listen. I love it. Love it. Yes, love it. I think it's more of because of the internet part two than it is the last album,

which I prefer I like Childers getting back in that bag I like that he labeled it pop because it is every aspect there is like SOFA R&B there is rapping there is straight up pop music

but I thought it was a good representation of what pop has become like everything in the pop category now is in that Childish Gambino album the way we debate yo is this R&B so is this Beyonce album look that's a real R&B song

why is she a pop artist that's the representation of this Childish Gambino album. And I have a really hot take that I haven't really flushed out yet and I feel like people will get mad of me. I love...

Damn, fuck it. I love this type of shit. I love this type of shit. We're like, we're workshopping it together. Okay. Maybe by next episode, I'll fully do it. Okay. The way people love Torrey Lanes

and how he takes other people's styles and makes it his own, I think is the way I love Childish Gambino on this album and because of the internet. Like, he does Drake, really well, but makes it his own. He does Kanye really fucking well, but makes it his own. Okay. He does Wayne really well. He does Frank Ocean really well. You hear those aspects like the second record could have been on kids see ghost. Straight up. But Childish does that very well and

makes it his own way. So while I've never been the biggest Torrey Lanes fan, because I feel like he sounds way too much like other people, I now kind of understand why fans like Tori Lanes. because to them he does a really good job at taking other people's styles and making it his own. I think childish... Because he's rapping on this and I'm like,

this could have been on more life. So he has that ability to understand... But it's not a bite. No, it's not a bite. It's not a bite. I'll get what you. Yeah. He understands the sounds

and what's dope and what's cool and he kind of mimics that. And he's done that his whole career. Like, he's even admitted some of his mixtapes like, I was just trying to rap like Wayne and you can hear it. Yeah.

And now that I think he started to master his artistry, he can separate it where it's like, this sounds like a straight-up Wayne bite to like, oh, I could really hear the Wayne influence or the Drake influence here, but he makes it his own. Who was his influence when he had them sandals on stage? Here we go. Was it Moses? He starts one crazy verse where he was rapping, rapping, second half in like the middle of the album. He said, this is for the old heads who didn't like my short shorts or my pro kids. He was talking right to you. Right to you.

No, I would have preferred him to wear pro kids as opposed to them sandals he had on up there, Sarenade and Usher. I thought you liked feet. Why does his feet bother you so much? Say that again and then understand why I'm saying what I'm saying. You thought I liked feet, right? You thought I liked man feet? I mean, I didn't think you did.

That's a good point. I mean, you're not a person who hates feet. Some people hate feet, period. Like if Rory had his toes out, you would hate. Some people just hate feet. I never thought of you as a I hate feet person So I was not I don't know I don't hate feet Okay I hate that he had his feet out at the BT award

Serenade and Usher in honoring him for his lifetime achievement award Well what was the difference what would the I felt like he could have put on a nice suit with some shoes You've definitely saying you don't have to call barefoot in your house while cleaning You probably slid like Tom like Tom Cruz I was going to say I sure was singing it barefoot look at what y'all is saying and yeah he was barefoot in his crib in that video in the shower in my house Yes, I can be barefoot in my house. So you don't like... You didn't take your shoes off at the BT Awards when we were there at any point?

We were there for like 48 hours. You were with me. I didn't look down. Well, that's your problem. So you don't like when men have their feet out in public? Again, your chain... How many times you're going to move to go? So you agree with Cameron when he said the...

I'm telling you when you're honoring a man on stage at the BT Awards, put your feet away. Okay. Is all I'm saying. I just feel like feet aren't sexual. I feel like you're kind of like trying to make them like nipples now. No, I'm not making it. I'm just saying, fam, it's, put something.

No, you don't only nigger in here with your feet out, an entire building. I don't think that's true. I'm sure somebody else had their feet out. I can promise you no other man had their feet out in BET. It's LA. Exactly. Gang bangers, murderers. Niggers ain't killing each other with their feet out.

The gangbangers and the murderers were not at the BET Awards. I'm sure a couple of them were. Oh, they were. Shit. They was everywhere. What? You don't think it was nobody at the BETT Awards. No, it's called it was a crypto.

for a reason. Yeah, you don't think it was nobody at the BT Awards with an active warrant? I'm sure. They just locked, they just locked, they just locked Killer Mike up.

I think Usher had one. They just locked Killer Mike up was it last year for a parking ticket. Yeah, like, are you kidding me? The niggas had their feet away, man. That's all I'm saying. Second Childish Gambino Hot Take, weird category.

Okay. Haven't fully thought about it yet. But can you feel me featuring his son legend? Mm-hmm. Might be the second or first best record between a parent and child together on a song.

Since we're talking about LeBron and his son, had me thinking, that song with his son legend smokes it. Jeney and her daughter are great, but she's just like kind of on the ad-libs in that one. Blue Ivy is on the Lion King soundtrack, right? Yeah.

But how much? She starts a brown skin girl. Like she's singing the hook. Okay, yeah. She has a Grammy for it. And she has a crazy freestyle. on 444 bonus track. Yeah.

Okay, top five parent song, Childish and his son. Can you feel it? It's crazy. His son, like, I had to Google who legend was. And then I saw that legend was his son. I was like,

who is this singing? This kid is nice. But I thought that was beautiful. I feel like LeBron and his son should walk out to that record. Would you do that to Amara? Yeah, but Legend just set the bar. That's a bar?

How do you follow that? Amara, get to work. You gotta get in the studio now. Turn Miss Rachel off. No, that's how she's learning pitch. Does she teach pitch? Ms. Rachel teaches music? Yeah, sort of.

That's dope. She's, I don't know the name of it, but like a vocal, a speech coach. Like, her child had trouble speaking. That's how she... Speech therapists. That's why she researched all this, and that's how she got into this game. It's fire. Yeah, that's why all our kids lock in immediately

because she's mastered, like, whatever the tone and pitch is for kids to love. And that's how she got her. kid speaking. Even though I think she's a CIA agent, like, she's an amazing person. Some people online talking about they think she's a pedophile, too. I swear to God. They think anybody who works with kids for pedophile, but history will show you. That'd be the ones that don't, they really be the pedophiles. Yeah. I mean, outside of the Boy Scouts. Shout out the blast. His home was burglarized over to, uh... Crazy to say shout out and then that. No, but I'm going to tell you why I tied together. So he had posted that his home was

burglarized. His family was there. His kids were there. Unfortunately, while people broke into the house and he had posted about it. And then like, right after I saw that post, I was like, damn, I was going to hit him up and be like, yo, listen, because, you know, I couldn't just imagine he's not, he's out of town. But obviously, he has ring cameras and can see people bring into his house knowing his kids in there, just, you know, blasted somebody I fuck with. So I was started to reach out and be like, yo, you know, like, hope everything's good with you and your fam. And then like 20 minutes later I see that he post

about the I'll always come find you And I thought that was in response to the burglary Like I'm gonna come find you Nick's like So I would like wait Is this a rollout? I didn't know what was going on So I kind of paused for a minute But then come to find out that no this was already Something that was going to drop

But I thought he got crazy ill on us But is his family safe? His family is safe Okay great His family is fine But I thought that he was tying that into Got you. The home burger.

Which is so crazy that our brains can even go that way. Yeah. And thank God his family is safe. And I could only imagine the anxiety and fear you would have. Not being home and just watching that. Yeah. My prayers are with just, even though his family safe is with him just dealing with that. Yeah.

That would be a helpless feeling that I don't even want to imagine. Yeah, that's definitely has to be one of the worst feelings as a father to know that your family is home. You're not there and you're watching people break into your house. Prayers to Armani, too. Armani's house got burglarized last week. Prays Armani. He wasn't, he wasn't there. No.

Nobody was there. In Philly or L.A.? In L.A. L.A. L.A. And he just moving to that when we was out in L.A.? Yeah. Yeah, man.

L.A. is... It's nasty out there. Saw them Florida ceiling windows. That shit is crazy. You know, it's easy to jump these gates and, you know, you got a backyard and patio door whatever, it's, you know, it's ways, it's entry points if you're trying to get into these houses, so. That shit's crazy.

Listen, man, I always say, all we got to do is see one of them get killed. You kill one of them burglars and put it on social media. That would be one of the murders I wouldn't mind being on social media. Oh, yeah. Just kill one of them. You break into somebody house and their family is there? I love those type of videos. You see them niggas running out of there, gunfire coming behind them?

Oh, I love those type of videos. Yeah, kill one of them. Yeah, listen, stop running into these houses. Because first of all, being in the B&E game is crazy because you don't know what's on the other side of that door. At all. If you take that shit, cool. That shit can be replaced. Still trauma, the victim.

But once you start harming people for that shit, like, what are we doing? Just, well, glad that Armani is safe. You know, material things we can always get back. And prayers to blast in his family. Glad that they're safe. I always come find you blast. I don't know if blast has missed yet. He hasn't.

He's one of those artists that he just finds a way he has his pocket. He stays in it. He always hit. But he has a sound, but his sound is not too repetitive. No, I understand what I'm saying? You know Blast when you hear Blast, but it's not like it doesn't sound like the shit he just dropped. Yeah. I hate to use mustard as an example with certain artists, but it's not like all of Blass shit is on a mustard type of sound.

Right. Like, he sounds the same on everything, but it's different sonic. You know it's him. You know it's him. Which, I mean, is a good thing for artists when you know the moment they get on a song. Exactly. That's what everyone looks for when you want to be an artist. Black Odyssey, 1-800 Fantasy came out.

Shout to Black Odyssey. Great projects. I'm featured in the videos, so you already know, classic. Already. Number one on the countdown. Should have went triple. Yeah. Number one on the countdown.

It is. Bow Wow, just new joining the day. Bow Wow just announced me. What did you guys think of Cardi's verse on that money with Rob 49? Listen, man, I always said I just want music from Cardi. I want an album. I want music. Well, she's been yelling at y'all that the album is coming.

I'm waiting. I thought she was yelling and wasn't coming. I'm waiting. No, she said it to be here before the end of the year. But this record is, it's going to do it. It's going to do what they wanted to do. You think so? Yeah, I think so.

I don't know if it will. And that's not a not to Cartier. robbed a four-nine. I don't know. I don't know if it will. I know how Rob's songs go off. I have, like, my little sisters are huge Robbought Four-Nine. He's big. Yeah, he's big. Kids really like him. Him, skill a baby, all of them. I don't know. This is probably the first time I feel like I want to know who wrote this Cardi verse. Why? Because they were sucking I feel like, I feel like, who wrote I'm sucking dick from scratch? If you point, if you point to a dude in the room, I'm going to have some questions for him. All right. Here's how your brain went to that.

Here's how I think Cardi and whoever she's writing with, right. Like the same way she said, I like those Balenciagas, the ones that look like socks. I think she actually said that. Yeah. And then whoever she was writing with formed it into a bar. I think Cardi does say all the things that she says in her rap. So she has like- Somebody is just structuring the verse for her.

So she has a hundred percent think Cardi came in the studio and was like, yo, I thought of this, you know, I'd be sucking dick from scratch. I think she thought of it. I thought of it. Yes. I'll be sucking dick from scratch. Yes. I think all those-

off when it's gummy. So Cardi has a stenographer walking around with her. Yeah. I really think that's how she writes. Because she has so much of her personality that's undeniable in her verses. Outside of how she delivers them, I don't think she's fully writing her wraps but I think all the

bars and lines and tricks and everything that we love from Cardi, she's coming up with those. Someone else is just structuring it and telling her how to wrap it. All right, I just hope that wasn't a party bar that he came up with. That's all I'm said. Because I'm

like, we go out to have to have a car. All right. So what do you say about big when the little Kim references? Oh no.

We always talked about that. Like that was insanity. Like I'm mad, you know, we lost big before I could have that question. Like,

yo big. Was it Clue that leaked that? Wasn't he tried to kill Clue in like a barbershop because he leaked that shit? Probably. That sounds about right. It was like Clue or who kid or somebody.

I don't know, man, probably. But yeah, I just want to know who wrote that for Cardi. But, um, okay,

if you're a right. If you're a writer, though. That's kind of shade. Hold on. Let's take a second. Why do you assume that every single Cardi B verse that she puts out is written for her? I'm not saying that every single verse is written. So then why are you automatically assuming that who wrote this to her?

Well, I hope I started by saying I hope she wrote that because I can't see a guy coming up with that. That's what I'm a little to. What I'm saying, I'm hoping those is her bars. Because I can't see a guy in her and be like, nah, you should say you suck dick from scratch. and because it's like that's what you always think of. Or I write dick on my feet. I be hopping like a bunny. You understand what I'm saying?

Now I just hope. Cardi's always had taglines even when she was just Instagram famous. Before love and hip hop like bars now the way we say, oh, it's just mostly IG captions. Yeah. I think she comes up with hilarious IG captions and then someone makes it a verse. Okay. Put that money on me like that nigga you want that. I think she's heavily involved in her verses.

No, definitely. I just don't think she's the one counting the bars. Yeah. No, she's involved. for sure. I'm just saying, I just hope that was like one of her specials where she just came in and said that nigger was like, okay, I could definitely, I could definitely turn that into something that they keep going back to. Because I can't see no dude just popping up in Cardi ear like, yo, say this. All right. But if you're a writer, you can't see some of the greatest

writers being able to write from a women's perspective and it not be gay. Yeah, not. Like, even with movies, like, if you're writing for a woman character, like you can get in the brain of a woman. Yeah, but I just think that when you say, say when you write, like if you have I've done it before, it's, I mean, it's like, yo, Marseis right here, and you're like, yo, suck dick from scratch. I'm gonna look at you like, that's what you over here thinking about. I'm not saying Cardi is a character

because I think she would take that as a fence. I don't mean it that way, but she is a big personality. Like, we understand the personality that is Cardi B. 100%. I think a great writer can notice that and get in the brain of that personality. Yeah. I'll get it.

I can write a verse from Rory's perspective. I feel like one of a person, you can do that. That's easy. What is it? What's the verse? I've never been loved. I'm a ginger redhead. I'm treated like a wet food stamp. They still take wet food stamps. I can write for a raw.

Wet food stamps are always taken. And that's a card now, more? It is a card. Gangster. You put your card out? Like, I know what that guy. That ain't visa. Don't do that. Don't try to hand it to that lady fast like that. Oh, when I be using my friend's food stamp card, I sweat with no, huh. Who, I'm, no shame. Man, listen.

Big Sean, yes, new single. Yeah, Big Sean, yes. I like it, but Big Sean's an album artist to me. I'm looking forward to the album. Cool record. Yes. I'm here for the album. It's all right.

It's cool. It's cool. I'm not like, you know, a big, I didn't really, I listen to it maybe twice and probably won't listen to it again. But I'm definitely, I'm waiting for Big Sean's album, though. Like, I'm definitely looking for it. So you're running to that at 12 o'clock. album? Not, I don't about 12.

I will. If I'm up, if I'm up. If I fall asleep before 12, I ain't gonna be mad, is what I'm saying. Do you prefer his albums by himself or his albums with Jeney more? He only has one. Well, his, but he has outside of the album, he has songs with her. Do you prefer? I mean, their album together was dope.

If you go back and listen to that album now, like, they really got some shit on there. No, 288 is. Yeah, they got. I'm talking about like... Is a in the era classic. Yeah. That's a new tier that I think. We should implement.

It's a timely classic for that time. When that shit, that's a... So all the M&M's albums. All of whose albums? Sure. I'm not mad at that. A time... We usually say it has to be timeless to be a classic. I think you can have timely classics.

For that era, that was a classic. It may not stand the test of time. Who are y'all talking about? Well, I was saying 288 for that time to me is a classic. And what did you? And I said, oh, so all the M&M's albums, it was a joke. But I agree with her. You think all of Eminem's albums are times?

Not all of them, but I can see people not thinking Marshall Mathers' LP aged well. But to me, it's for that time, that's a classic fucking album. But at the time it came out, we had the unanimously feel like, yo, this album is crazy. Yeah, like the way people now still wear Pink Floyd Dark Side of the Moon T-shirts, like that's forever, no matter what it said. I don't know if that's going to be the case for Marshall Mathers LP. Right. Okay, I'll get what I'm saying.

in 2000 to tell me that that's not an instant classic album. Yeah, no. You would not just be there for that time. I get it. Okay, I understand what you. So 28 to me, yeah, sure. 2088 is crazy. I listened to that the other day after that, Deshawn shit came out.

I just was like, let me listen to the, that shit sounds amazing. That's an unfair question, DeMaris, because if you look at like, finally famous, Detroit, the mixtape. Like, Sean has so much. He has so much. To compare it to that one project, I don't know if that's fair. Darkside Paradise. I'm going to take Sean. solo. Yeah, I don't think that's...

I wasn't trying to compare projects. I was trying to compare whether you like the sound when he's on songs with her compared to if you like... But then I also like Jenae solo. They're great when they come together. Yeah. You know, they're better. Sean should have been on like one or two of them songs on like Sailing Souls.

That's too early. Did they even know each other? No, but I'm just saying like listening to that. Have you listened to that now? It's like one or two where I'm just like, you imagine if Sean had disverse. Yeah. To me that's a classic.

Yeah. Sailing Souls is a classic. To me, they're the epitome of spinning the block and it working out perfectly. Yeah. Like sometimes your soulmate, let your soul may get married and put out two classics about her ex-husband. Then it's your time, sloom. Then you go in and do come off the bench and...

Because, I mean, they were dating and then they broke up. And then she went on and got married. It didn't work out. And now they're happily married with children. Wait, they dated and then she. she got married? Yeah, they 100%. Yeah? Really? I didn't know. I never knew she was married.

Yeah, she was married to that producer. He's an amazing producer. I can't believe I'm blanking on his name. Got you. That's what started the whole Cuddy and Big Sean Beef. Dot the Genius. Dot the Genius. Which I always found, I mean, Dot the Genius did a lot of Cuddy stuff early. Like, that's one of his main producers. Yeah. And

him and Jenae got married. And then after they broke up, Sean got back with a girl he was already dating. And Cuddy was like, yo, what the fuck? And it was like, what the fuck? I don't owe anything to dot the genius. What I owe him? I dated in the past. We stayed friends throughout the entire thing. And now, like,

that's how relationships work as adults. Yeah, but, you know, he probably painted it to like, oh, so this is why they didn't last because you were still in the picture. You know, you could just paint that. You can paint that as a being a reason. Especially if y'all been friends the whole time. Because now I was like y'all was fucking around the whole time. Exactly.

That's all that's it. Okay. That's all. That's all I'm saying. I'm not saying that's what happened here. I'm just saying if she's married. Then on top of that, Corrupt is threatening me on an interlude on your album.

Yeah, I might feel away. Yeah, it's just, you know. Was that to him? Of course it was. You don't know that, Rory. You don't know that. Who was it to then? It could have been.

She was divorced without a whole album of being divorced. Who do you think Corrupt was talking about? Sean? But the song is called, you should have called me. The song is basically like, you fuck somebody and they ain't reach. shout to you and now you're mad so now you're sicking your brothers on them like it is i think it was just a song to show that like she got the crypt behind corrupt corrupt one of his address the

the most corrupt part about that whole voicemail was it's your big brother corrupt we knew yeah soon as we heard your voice we knew exactly who you were i love corrupt i love that song too it's a great song and every girl who has male friends has has felt that way jane does not have a miss in her discography. No. I don't think so. No. There's not even like an eh album.

Yeah, she's one of those. Well, do we have to get, I guess we have to get to it. Oh, damn, we've been avoiding it for so long. Biggest news in America. Y'all corny, man. Y'all corny. Why are we corny? Y'all corny.

We've been avoiding for so. I'm waving the white flag. Because if this was the other way, we would have led with that. If it was the other way, we would have led with it. Well, we're a music podcast. Oh, all right, we can take the segment and put it to top there. No, we're not. No, we're not.

Okay, we can leave this part in and say we're moving it to the top. Oh, we ain't moving to nowhere. That's how I'm 10 toes for Kamala. Listen, man, y'all. All I'm saying is, what I say? Y'all whack for, you know, now we, do we have to talk? Now is do we have to talk about it? Well, Rory said that.

I ain't say that. Don't call me whack. Y'all corny, man. I ain't corny. See, you keep saying y'all. Anyway, Joe Biden has dropped out of the race for the next presidential term. Something that I think, well, no. something that I've always knew was going to happen

something that I always was sitting here laughing at y'all about because I was like bro yeah I understand policies and this thing I was just always saying do y'all think he's a better fit for president than the orange man yeah yeah he is no he's not we can just be honest he's not the man don't know where he at where day it is

and it's we understand age and we want to give grace to our elders but that's all I was sorry that's age is that's all I was trying to to allude was like, yo. Give him free to our elders. Yeah, like, come on, man. Like he, president? No, this, he should be somewhere just enjoy life, relaxed.

He don't need to be stressed out with politics and the issues of the world and traveling. No. Okay. So, since that seemed to be your issue with Biden now, that was your only reason for back in Trump was that you felt like. No, no, no, no, no. Don't put words in mind. That was my only reason. Oh, okay.

I'm just saying that I, that was a major reason. Well, that was the major reason. So the major reason is gone now. we now have Kamala Harris that's supposed to be that he endorsed. So what is it now? Are you still going for Trump against Kamala?

Do I think that Trump will win? Is it what you're asking? I'm not voting. I've never voted for Trump. I'm not voting for Trump. Y'all know that that's always been the case. But do I feel like she will win? Is what you're asking me?

No, I'm not asking you. I mean, do you feel like she will win? I'm sorry. Do you feel like she? Okay. I don't think she's going to win. And I think this is the Democratic Party's fault for waiting this long for the inevitable

of just telling us. telling Joe Biden to step down. They should have done this a very long time ago. They would have had more time to get somebody in there that the Democratic Party can get behind and push. Now you're talking about November 5th is the election. This is July, the end of July? I said this in the group chat and then you got mad at me.

No, because... Everything you just said. No, I don't think you said that in the group chat. But whatever. Our best bet is tomorrow. I don't know why she didn't do this today. publicly speech Trump let's debate on Friday

she don't want that she don't want that it takes a long time to get right away she don't want that she don't want to debate Trump she don't want to politics is all about perception if you just start saying let's debate tomorrow

the people don't the regular people don't know how long it takes to put that shit together but if you start harassing somebody you know let's debate listen the same way Trump did the perception of let's go take that test together we don't know how much that would take for the two of them to go to doctor together to take that cognitive test.

She should do the same perception bullshit. Trump, let's debate tomorrow. Come on. I'm not Biden. Listen, let me tell you something. You saw that Trump... You could roll over somebody. There's no idea where the fuck he is.

Let's talk. That Trump Biden debate, which I'm still... I told you, I didn't think that was going to happen and they let happen. That's essentially what knocked Biden out of this race. It was the debate. After that, it was clear's day. Van Jones, he crying now. His crying ass.

Stop. The night of the debate, he was. He was crying. He was crying at the night of the debate. He knew it was over that night. Go look at the tape. Is he what? I don't think no man is straight that sits on TV and cries for a white politician.

Rory, I'm not trying to be shady. I didn't say you were. I just, I don't know, best. I don't know. I don't know what these men do behind closed doors. I'm just saying a black man crying over a white politician is, insane to me. That's all I'm saying. It's like his mentor though. Yeah, I hear you. He's cool with a, you're just pictures with all these niggas hanging out kicking it. It's like a, it's like

the movie Finding Forrester. It's nothing like that. He just want to cry for whatever. It's political theater, man. Cry about that. Where's that money Jeff Bezos gave you? Where is that what you did? What did he what Jeff gave him? That's why he keep crying. So he could deflect. All we're talking about is why he cries with TV every time. What's you doing with that? But let's see the taxes on that. No. Oh, you don't want to show that. Of course not. See what I'm saying?

But you sitting up here crying because Biden had to bow out of a presidential race. Cut the shit, man. We knew he wasn't fit for presidency. It is what it is. A president should not be that old. We should not have a guy that old representing the country. Trump included. I agree.

But Trump is just in a better condition physically, mentally, than Biden is. That's all it is. And that's all I've been trying to ask people, you think that he's a better, you think so? Like just be,

forget policies. You think that this man should represent, he should be the president of the United States. He should fly and travel the world to foreign countries and sit and talk

with other political leaders of other countries and the condition that he's in. No. We should not, that should not be what that should not represent

the president of the United States. Trump also, but I'm just always what's talking about between the two candidates that we have in front of us. Well, now we have a potential new one.

Not going to work. Let's just be real here. It's not going to work. This country is not ready and not at a space where they're going to put a woman. Just be real. We've seen it with Hillary Clinton, who probably was the favorite back then. Well, she did. She won the popular vote.

You understand what I'm saying? So do I think this might be a case here? Close to it. I just don't think that Kamala will come close to winning a popular vote over the time. Trump. I don't see that happening. And if they try to roll out and tell me that she got more votes than Obama, I'm not believing the shit. You're not

going to give me to believe that she got more votes than Obama in 2008. I don't give a fuck with you. It's going to take the electoral college for her to win. I don't think she's going to win, but she's not winning the popular. No. It's not happening. It's just not going to happen. So thank you, President Joe Biden for your service. Thank you for your presidency.

But I mean, if Gavin steps up, that vice role, those JD Vance around. Not happening. Enough people don't like. You just got to talk to some black and Hispanic people from California about how they feel about Kamala Harris. Anyone that lives. They'll let you know about Gavin Newsom, how they feel about him too.

Just talk to people that live in these states and these cities that these people come from and tell you about their past and their history. Just talk to people that are from these cities. They'll give you more insight into who you're voting for. She's a AKA. She has the Greek community. Oh, she went to Howard. You got to vote for her. She's an A.k.a. too. They loved it. They love to throw that in your face, Peach. She went to Howard. How can you not vote?

It's a bunch of motherfuckers that went to Howard. I don't fuck with. Pretty fan was good. She's one of them. Put them on. Put her on the list. You fuck out of here. She went to Howard. We got any voicemails. You've got mail. We do. Good luck. Good luck, Peach.

You guys ready? What's up, y'all? This Tyreeke from Grattan in Virginia. Shout out to the 434. I got another question for y'all. So if you were to wait. wake up on the first day of high school and freshman year with the knowledge that you have right now, what would you do differently? I know for me, if I woke up with the same knowledge I had now, I definitely would have been single the entire time through high school because I feel like now as an adult I missed out on a lot of memories that I could have had with my friends. You know, is there anybody that maybe robbed you?

And now that you have the knowledge, maybe you play that whole situation different and come out on top. or just anything, really, but know that if you change anything, your lives now could be totally different. Like, Roy, you might not even have a baby right now or the pod might even be real. So that was the question I had based off the last part. I guess butterfly effect, everything gets you there. I see what you're trying to take us. Shout out to VH. He started throwing a shout out to him?

Yeah, that wouldn't happen. That's sick. That used to be a thing on the radio. Oh, absolutely. Would I change anything different with the knowledge I have now? I think it's hilarious that he went to a high school relationship. I don't know, buy stock in Facebook. Well, your freshman year, I had the same knowledge.

Your freshman year at high school, you wouldn't have money to buy stock in Facebook. I could have asked my mom. Oh, yeah, she's definitely going to give you. $10 in a Facebook would have done it in my freshman year. Socially, yeah. Socially, I would change a lot. Like, I definitely would have been a better student for sure with the knowledge I have now. I definitely would have been one of those students that I thought was corny for like being the first in class and being the last one to leave the classroom.

I'm like, why you still in here? The bell rang. Now I understand why they were still there. So, yeah, I would change little things like that. But I don't know about too much as far as relationships and things like that. Definitely some girls, I wouldn't have kissed though. Yeah, I see them now. Like what they turned out to be?

You could be a better kisser for it now, though. Yeah, you got to go through that moment and have those periods of kissing women you shouldn't have kissed. Yeah, I get it. Like, I mean, I guess I have... But nothing major, no major change. Yeah, I don't know if there'd be crazy changes

because, I mean, kind of to what he's saying. Like, there wouldn't be the podcast now or maybe... I see what he's saying with decisions that you make that eventually get there. I don't know, maybe taking more advantage of my high school and the opportunities that were there.

It's like it wasn't a bad high school. So there was opportunities there that I could have done outside of just playing in sports. Yeah. Like there was stuff even with music, whether music, writing. There was programs after school that I could have taken advantage of. I'm probably the same for me since I went to Performing Arts High School. It was just like the idea of me having to go to this camp in Boston for the summer to study more classical music. Out of my cool.

And then only have like two weeks of summer to myself. as a as a 14, 15 young kid, I was like, hell no, I'm not more school. But now, looking back, it's like, damn, the opportunities, the people you meet and connect with, you know, at these programs in these different cities, you know, obviously my life would have been on a different course. So I don't, I don't regret where I am today. But I definitely probably would have those opportunities to just have those experiences. I probably would have took more of those opportunities. But I don't beat myself up with the hindsight of 2020 stuff too much,

because I didn't know. Like, yeah, I can say that now of where my career is and where those type of skills developing them as a teenager would have been great. But I don't know. I was a teenager. Like, I was figuring shit out and navigating the best way I knew how, which got me here. Yeah. So I like the question, but I don't like to think that way.

Yeah, no. I mean, especially when you... I have regrets on decisions I've made, but not. regrets in the path that I took to get to. Absolutely. I mean, we've been fortunate enough to land in a spot in our lives where things are great, things are good. But, you know, aside from minor little small things, I don't think there's much that

I would go back and change. I wouldn't be in such a rush to be an adult. I'll tell you that. I would, every time you hear. Yeah. That's a great point. Yeah, every time you hear adults tell you, you know, listen, enjoy it. Don't be this, that, you know, don't be in a rush to grow up.

And you're like, man, fuck out of here. I don't want to go to school. I don't want to pay bills either, though. Yeah, like, I won't do the high school thing. College, I'll take the same question. Like, once I started getting involved in music industry shit when I was a sophomore in college combined with, you know, knocking out of R.A. to get kicked out. I wish I would have, like, given myself that two years to have more of a college experience. Because now I'm like, damn, I went right into real life.

Like, it would have been nice to really just chill. you have four years to fuck off and do whatever you want. Yeah. Def Jam wasn't going nowhere. Right. Still there. Yeah. It's still, it's there right there.

Yeah. But you look at it, you know, what's in front of your face. Like, damn, I got this opportunity now. Fuck what's behind me. And that may have been the right decision. But yeah, I regret sometimes. It's like, damn, what if I went to school down south? It really got a college experience.

Yeah. Went to commuter school. Like, just tried to figure it out as I went. Maybe I would have chill. and like, got to know more people around a college campus than a fucking office. Yeah. Yeah. Again, small, small things that I would have taken advantage of.

But having the knowledge I have now in the ninth grade, I just, that wouldn't have been, that would have been. Hindsight, those chicks that you think are bad and you're crushing on are going to turn out to be fucking fentanyl heads. Yeah. Damn. They don't look bad. Don't chase it. Don't spend your time chasing and not focusing on school because she ain't going to be what you think she is.

That 50-co, damn, homie, he was the man in high school. What happened to you? That's real. That's more about women than it could be. No, I don't do that, man. No, I know a lot of dudes. Oh, yeah, yeah. It happens.

Turn out to be. It happens. It happens. But some of the coolest. Some of the coolest dudes, too. Oh, for sure. These niggas are sleeping by the ATM and by the bank now. I feel like that happens to the dudes more than it happens to the women.

Yeah, women ain't going to let their cells. I know a lot of... A lot of them fuck their way to the bottom. No, what happens... You know what happens when women know... You can't fuck your way to the top. You can't fuck your way to the bottom. Speaking from my experience in women that I've went to school with

and knowing where some of them are now, they definitely ruined their lives about the decisions in the men that they either had babies with, you know, started a family with, started a life with. The guys would fuck their life up. Yeah. not saying that, you know, that's the sole reason, but looking at it, it's like, oh, you got with him when you was 18, y'all was together through your whole college and had a baby and he was in the streets, got locked up,

had to do a bid, left you out here, single parent, trying to figure it out, you know, like, oh, this is where you went wrong. Like, you was attached to yourself to a fucking piece of shit dude for the rest of your life by having a baby with him. But outside of that, not too many women that I know. went to school with are like doing bad in life because of, you know, they're strung out on drugs or it's a lot of dudes that, like, I don't know too many women that I went to school with that are like strung out on drugs in the streets. But a lot of dudes I went to high school with are definitely strung out on drugs. Some of them are women now. Oh, you mentioned that a lot. Yeah, no. Some dudes I went to high school with are women now. That's where you're transphobia comes

from because it's so close to home. What you said? are they bad? Like, are they bad? I can't be objective to that. I went to, that nigger was in my home room. Like, whatever he is now, I don't know him as this. I know him as, you know, being in the home room. But life is funny, man.

Life is weird. Life is beautiful. Life is strange, but it's life. Yeah. So, yeah, no, I wouldn't change nothing. I'm happy where things landed. I regret not taking advantage of certain opportunities, but I wouldn't change much. Okay.

Just take that time. Except for that nigga that stole my shit. I knew he started. I should have cracked his head back then. You should have? It's never too late. No, it's too late for that. It's way too late for that shit.

Never too late, Rory. He don't remember he stole that shit for real. Yeah, it's too late for that. But I should have cracked him for that. I would have learned how to code. Oh, for sure. For sure. I would have been way more involved.

I don't even think that was an option. I mean, in my free time, MySpace was the closest thing that I learned how to code. and that was just to try to make my profile dope. Yeah, you want to just to look hard. Yeah. I would have learned out of code more. That's something, there's two things that Mara's going to be pissed at me

if she's not passionate about them, no matter what she's staying in it. She's learning piano because all music now, whether you want to do drums, anything else is based off a fucking synth. Like, you can do everything with a keyboard. I'm saying a piano keyboard. And coding. You have to learn the basics of both of those. I'm not saying you've got to go be a fucking expert neither.

that's going to be your one-on-one shit and taxes. Those three things you are learning as a teenager, no matter the fuck what. I think that's a good... And a fight, I guess. That's a good conversation. Maul, what do you think you're going to, like, push your kid to be in? Golf.

Golf? Tennis. Okay. We already looked in Asana Amara up for tennis. We're looking like five years, but... Yeah. That was our number one thing to start with. I just told my sister the other day to push my nephew into golf.

Like... He likes it, like top golf and things like that. So I'm like, yo, just take them. They have like a golf course by her house where they give classes for kids. I was like, just take him, put him in and see if he gravitates towards it. If not, it's all good. I'm going to send you this golf thing for kids that's fire. Yeah.

That I already purchased. I probably need that from me. Even though Amara. I'm going to take it, but I'm also using myself. Yeah, I purchased this golf shit for Amara. She won't be able to use it for another few years. Yeah. It's, I'm going to use it.

Yeah. But it's four kids. You put it on your rooftop. That would probably be a good place. Well, it's for the living room. Oh, okay. And it's like an easy setup with like a little screen and they can just hit the ball and it shows where it goes. It's cool.

I, um, I, I am going to do the health field. COVID really like, during COVID, I hated myself for not going into the health field. But even if I had. You heard how much money those traveling nurses were making? Yeah. Man, um, bish. They made out like bandits in the fucking band. was making so much money that they was actually physically fighting nurses in the city that

because like say you live in New York and you're a nurse in New York. During COVID they was bringing in women from wherever else and those women were making more money than the nurses that were in the city. And they put them up in the 60 hotel and so. Yeah. Yep. The nurses were actually fighting like physically got into fights because it's like, yo, y'all bringing in all these travelingers.

They probably working less hours and making more money than us. So it's like when you start, that whole time was crazy. I learned a lot about nurses and that whole how that thing works during COVID. That should have been a reality show. Yeah, oh, for sure. The real nurses of New York or whatever, that would have went fucking crazy. Because one of my home girls got flown in from Houston, stayed at the 60 in Soho, and was getting paid crazy.

And the whole time, she was like, oh, pull up, like, let's chill. I was like, I don't know, COVID's crazy. She was like, you're fine. Don't do that. See, don't do that. Don't do that. She laughed at it. But don't do that because I start saying some shit and y'all going to be mad.

So just don't do that. It's all of fair. You're fine. Don't do that. That's all I'm saying. But yeah, definitely the health field because there's just certain things that don't change. And the human body does not. You will always need people in the health field.

I think coding will be good. I think it's, I don't want to say it's getting oversaturated. But whatever coding will be. Yeah. When Amara, because of course, with AI, it's everything is going to change. But the overall theme of what coding, you know, I've watched Peach teach himself how to do fucking everything. Yeah. And business is my hero.

Business. I want my kid to take business classes for sure. Like I want to lean heavy into business. Like, Peach to me is like what Jadikis was talking about. The guy that was better than Jordan, but he went up north. Like imagine if Peach would have the same opportunities that like all these Photoshop people had. He's taught himself

on the yard. The yard being Ducey-Paloosa tour bus is hilarious. It was better than everyone. Did you see the WMBA Team USA game? Of course I did. I didn't just watch the highlights.

You make a joke? I fully support women. No, listen. That game might be better than the All-Star game. Doesn't shock me when you say that.

The highlights I watched were crazy. I saw the end. I couldn't catch the whole thing. That was a really, really good game. That was a really, really good game. What was Shorty's name that was Lights Out? She was taking the most ridiculous shots. Is it Areka?

Arika. See? Did you really watch? Yeah, I'll pull it up for you. It's hard to say. She's African. Arike. Yes. I'm going to try.

Arike, I'm, listen, I might butcher your last name. The white commentaries got it right in the, Highlight that's all. All right, let me try it. Arike Ogunboale. You said it like a white person trying to use an African accent. No, I said it like somebody I didn't want to ruin their last name. Ogunmovali.

Ogunboale. Yes. Ogun boale. Yes. Areca. Areke Ogun boale. Yeah, she's one of the best, she's one of the best guards in the league, though. Like, her game is she's, you know, if you haven't seen her play, that was your first

That didn't surprise me, like, her performance. Like, she's super, super nice. One MVP, well-deserved. MVP? She was pulling up from anywhere. No, she got, she's iced cold. And she put that shit on, too. She can dress.

She got a lot of style with her. But she's definitely one of the best players in the league. But that game was really, really, like, I watched it because I was ready to shit on it. Why is you hate what to shit on it? Not ready to shit on the women, but like the whole. It was a weird concept of USA. That's what I want to do shit on. I wanted this shit on that.

But it turned out to be a really, really dope game. It was a sold-out, sold-out game. I like the concept for this year, because that also allows women that probably wouldn't have made the All-Star roster to be on the WMBA team. And then let the USA team play together. Like, get some more reps in because it is an Olympic year. Yeah. So, like, let them play as a team. and then that gives players.

Like, I don't know what Caitlin Clark, Angel Reese even make it if it was the full just East-First West? Yeah, well, they would get voted then for sure. Out of popularity. Yeah, absolutely. But I think some women that wouldn't have been in the All-Star game played.

No, I enjoyed it. It worked. It was exciting. It was fun to watch. And I think they, you know, the WMBA found something good with this right here. So shout out to the WMBA. Shout out to Team USA.

Shout out to a. Cheryl Miller, my favorite Nick of all time. Cheryl Miller is your favorite Nick? That's funny. Someone will get that joke. No, of course. But yeah, shout out to Arike. This is a second All-Star Game MVP.

She's super nice. But I like what the WMA did. I like this format. I like the game. It was exciting. And hopefully they, you know, continue with this moving forward. I don't see why they wouldn't. It was so successful when the game was so great.

So shout out to them. Did you see the Team USA almost? lost. Yeah. To South Sudan. Mm-hmm. Y'all don't listen to me, man. I'm telling y'all, this team USA team is not, I don't see gold.

I don't see it. I just don't, I don't, I, obviously the roster is talented, but there's some, there's some gaps. There's some, there's some, there's some chinks in the armor. It's that plus timing where international basketball is at its highest, it's ever been. And most competitive that it's ever been at. I agree with, like when the dream team existed, of course that's the dream team. Don't get me wrong. But international basketball was not what it is today. But it's not when the like the top five best players are not from America. It's not that it's not yes, the world has gotten better. Yes. Significantly. You're right.

You're right. But the NBA, the style of playing the NBA has also just turned into let's just shoot threes. Whereas in the 90s, it was more... Let's elbow people in the face. More physical, attack the basket. It was that style of play. So now, if you're talking about all we got to do is just be able to shoot and we might beat y'all, of course the rest of the world is going to seem like they're on

the same level of gotten better because it's like, oh, we just out here shooting threes. That's all we doing. Changed to a three, two defense. In the Olympics, that's the thing. Seeing somebody runs on, the Olympics is like a fan. What are y'all doing? In CYO, we ran 3-2.

Anytime there was big shooters, we ran the 3-2. Did Syracuse make that popular? The 3-point shooter? No, they made the 2-3 popular. The zone. That's what I was talking about. Not popular, per se, but they were the best at it. They ran that 2-3 system when I was a kid.

That was their go-to. When I was growing up and I was playing basketball, that was known as our thing. Like, even when we were in-A-R-R-Cuse was definitely the 2-3 team for a very long time. I would have broke that Demaris press so easily. Skip past. basket three point shot

y'all ya gotta come out of that zone just collapse the zone penetrate come out of that zone that shit ain't working come out of it but yeah to send me this team USA

because I'm seeing people saying this better than the original dream team and all this other shit no one's not one person has said that no a lot of people have said that

who online online is fine the tweets a lot of people have said that nobody thinks this team is better than the original team all right peach have you have seen anything

online with they're saying this team is better talent more talent on this team than the first dream team only Lebron James has probably tweeted that. The talent,

I understand what they're saying. I'm just saying like, they're saying that probably skill set, one-on-one, maybe. But as far as just talent and being able to play the game of basketball, that 92 team was fucking ridiculous. Ridiculous.

Steph Curry, we know what he does. Anthony Edwards, great young player. LeBron, one of the greats. Kevin Durant, one of the greats. Derek White, I don't even know how he's on his team, but whatever. Tyreys Halliburton, really good young point guard,

like him. But he's not better than Stockton. me. You know what I'm saying? Does he have a better skill set in Stockton? Some might say he does. Joel Embed or Patrick Ewan. Some people say Joel has a better skill set than Patrick Ewin.

I'm not taking Joel and Bid over Patrick Ewan. I'm not taking Anthony Davis over David Robinson. But some people will. Some people say that they're better players. That shit is not going to translate. The bottom line is I do not think that this team USA is going to win goal. I'm not against you on that. That's when you said, we don't listen to you. When did we say otherwise? I don't know if they're going to win the goal.

I think this team USA team is going to. I don't think any of these guys even really like each other. I think that whole AAU shit that they tried to do years ago is dead. I actually like that finally all the NBA players don't like each other. It is not based off competition. It's based off bitches. But I'm so happy that finally, that shit is over. I don't think any of these guys like each other.

Yeah. Thank God the women made NBA competitive. again. Thank you. Is that whole AAU shit that they was trying to do? Everybody being friends. I'm cool, bro. I don't know.

This is going to be a fun Olympics, though. It's going to be interesting. It's going to be fun to watch. I do think that Team USA is going to come up short. I think they get silver. I don't know if they get the goal. I think Bronny should have been on the team, to be honest. I think he's paid his dues.

Don't do that. Don't do that. Don't do that. He should have been on the team. Don't do that. Brownie looked, he looked decent that last couple of summer leagues. games. It looked like he's kind of fineing his legs a little bit. I'm ruled for him. I'm rude for him. He got the weight of the world on his shoulders. If he doesn't play

well, he'll be homeless in a year or two. He'll definitely be homeless. Weight of the world. If he fails, what is he going to do? It's over. Life is over. But no, I am rooting for Bronny, man. I am rude for him. I hope he plays well. And I hope he makes good on the Lakers drive pick because he got everybody waiting for him to fail. So I'm rude for you, Brony. I'm rooting for you, Brony Well, we'll be back in a couple days New Rory and Mall tickets are available now For our live shows

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