New Rory & MAL - Episode 297 | Mal Busts Rhymes At The Missy Show
Episode Date: August 27, 2024Back on road! The boys have taken their talents to the Windy City, and record an episode out there, high off their last live show! Mal had to catch Missy Elliott's show while he was out there (without... Rory, obviously), and gives us a rundown of the show, letting us know that Missy deserves her own Super Bowl Halftime Show (6:01). Mal was outside all weekend (without Rory, obviously), planting the NRM flag and getting to know the city, including the Southside (15:40). They get into a live show recap, including an interesting couples segment (21:17). Mal did the afties at Soho house and gives us a rundown (28:58). While they've been gone, the culture has been culturing. Is Lil Yachty in his crash out era (38:46)? Drake leaked more music to his 100 gigs site (55:00). They also speak on Kanye's South Korea show (59:40), Dani Leigh's DUI footage (1:02:05), + more!For MORE Rory & Mal, make sure you subscribe to our Patreon community, for exclusive episodes, first access to tickets and merch sales, private live chats with the team, + more! https://www.patreon.com/newrorynmalFollow Rory: @ThisIsRoryFollow MAL: @MAL_ByTheWayFollow Demaris: @DemarisAGiscombeFollow Julian: @Julian__nicholas To watch the podcast on YouTube: https://bit.ly/NewRoryAndMALYouTube Don’t forget to follow the podcast for free wherever you're listening or by using this link: https://bit.ly/NewRoryAndMAL Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoicesSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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And we are back live from Chicago.
Are we live?
Are we here?
We're recording.
We are recording.
It's live at the moment.
Live in the moment in Chicago.
We're on the road.
We had a show in Detroit.
Thursday. Shout out to the beautiful people in Detroit.
Yes, the whole Michigan area. Thank you for coming out.
Had a great time. Had a great time in Detroit.
And now we are in Chicago. We had a show
last night at the city winery.
Shout out to the people that came out. Had a great time.
One of my favorite crowds. But we can start.
I like recording after shows like this.
Because it's like I'll see you after the show.
Oh, yeah.
So it's kind of like I get this. It's intimate.
How have you been?
So you, well, you were outside.
Yo, listen, man.
We have a lot of catching up to do.
Because usually on the road, you stay in your hotel room.
Yeah.
And we never see you.
I made it a point this time based off of conversations that we've had when we've been on the road.
And I was like, you know what, this time around, I'm going to try to get outside a little more.
We went outside together a little bit in Detroit.
Yeah, a little bit.
Shout out to Dell.
We went by the Stock X office, seen that whole operation.
They're basically just moving dope.
Yeah, pretty much.
That's that whole setup is the car that New Jack City.
We weren't.
We weren't allowed to film.
Yeah, we weren't allowed to film.
Everybody was butt-ass naked.
was butt naked making sure the Yeezys weren't fake
making sure the product glasses were real.
That was interesting though.
I wish we could have filmed, but I mean, I understand
why because that is kind of secretive in their process
with authenticity.
But it's a legitimate factory line.
And people standing there going through,
they gave us like a little test run,
taught us what was real and fake about Yeezys
then we had to guess.
Yeah, I got everything wrong.
I would have bought a bunch of fake stuff.
They would have got me.
They said if it has a fishy smell,
it's fake.
Yeah.
So just bad pussy.
is what they're selling easy as right now.
I like it.
But that was fun.
Prada got completely wrong.
I just assumed the heavier glasses were the ones.
Definitely not the case.
But it was a cool experience.
I actually really appreciate it.
Shout out to our God Dell.
Then we went by,
first of all.
That Dan Gilbert owns half of...
Half.
Well, all of Detroit.
He owns Detroit.
Yeah, it's not even Detroit.
It's Dan now.
That's what the Dan Michigan is what it is.
He had like a, I guess like a,
what would you call it?
A model of Detroit?
A model of down to.
town, Detroit.
Yeah.
And Dell was like, yeah, so all the pink roofs.
Yeah.
That's Dan owns all of that.
So he could have just kept it as no pink.
Yeah.
Just all of Detroit.
You painted pink on everything.
Bismol in the rooftop.
I'm like, okay, Dan, I get it.
But the beautiful office at Stock X, thanks for having us, Del.
We appreciate it.
And then we had a great show in Detroit.
People came out.
Well, you're leaving out our second stop that day.
We went to the house that you built.
Oh, we went by the, uh, the pistol.
Yeah.
Shout out to everybody at the Detroit Pistons.
We went by the practice facility.
They welcomed you back with open arms.
Welcome me back.
They played my theme music when I walked in.
They got my jersey.
My jersey wasn't there.
They sent it out for dry cleaning.
But when it gets back, they'll put it back in the rafters.
We had a good time at the practice facility.
Detroit was dope, man.
I had a good time in Detroit.
Cool to move around.
I didn't spend any money at the casino.
Like, I'm becoming like a really responsible human thing.
Good, man.
I mean, we still got like blackout drunk at the casino.
Well, I mean, listen, either you're going to gamble or you're going to get blackout drunk or you're going to get blackout drunk because you gambled and lost everything.
So when we're walking back in from the Detroit show, there was a car of three women walking in at the same time.
And, you know, I've been around for a little while. I knew what they were doing.
Yeah.
They were working.
They work at the casino.
They work at the casino.
I could tell, by the way, they were dressed.
They were blackjack dealers.
No cards, though.
No cards.
Your card is their card.
Yeah.
Me, Peege and Benner go to like the bar area.
And we just chill, having a drink.
And one of them sits down and is like, hey, we can have some fun tonight.
I'm like, no thanks.
And she was a little persistent.
And I was like, I know what you're doing, just letting you know, like, I don't want you to waste your time.
Hardworking.
Go, you know, find someone else.
Yeah.
She left once of her friends.
He's a fucking asshole.
I'm like, you were trying to sell me pussy and I didn't want it?
Yeah.
That makes me an asshole?
Absolutely.
I didn't know you had to be polite.
I just, not.
I don't.
I don't want to pay for sex.
I'm sorry.
It's kind of like when you pull up to the exit and the homeless guy wants to wash your windshield,
you know, like, no thanks and they get an attitude.
Yeah, it's like.
Same thing.
So I'm just supposed to pay you.
Because she's looking at like, who doesn't want a blow job?
She had braces.
Okay, yeah, then I don't want to go.
I mean, I wouldn't have anyways, but that was like a big tell in the beginning.
Like, I don't think I'm going to pay for this.
But that's the casino culture.
You know, it's going to be working women there.
You know, they figure guys are stressed out and lost some money.
Yeah.
Don't lose all your money here.
Go spend more.
You'll spend more money?
Yeah, give me some of that money.
If you're going to give the household of that money, let me get some of that.
So you got to respect the culture.
Yeah, but I mean, I get it.
The hotel's right there.
You go right upstairs.
Right up to the room.
Detroit was fun.
In that regard, we came to Chicago, what, three days early?
Two days early?
In Chicago, so we were in Detroit.
We had to show Thursday.
Then Friday afternoon, we flew here into Chicago.
When we got here, I took a shower, changed, and immediately left the hotel to go to
To the Missy Elliott.
Missy Elliott.
Shout out to Missy Elliott.
She had a final stop on her tour.
It was here in Chicago at the Allstate Arena.
So a friend of mine had told me two days before, and I've never seen Missy.
So I was just like, you know, usually I don't go to shows.
I get in the city.
I'd rather just get something to eat, chilling a hotel, go to sleep.
But I say, you know what?
Let me get out in Chicago a little bit.
So that was the perfect start to our weekend here in Chicago.
Went to the Missy Elliott show.
And I'm telling you right now, Rory, I'm stamping it.
Missy Elliott is easily the greatest entertainer that we probably have in our culture.
Well, she created our first accounting issue that you and I have ever had.
And it wasn't because of money.
I just got a notification that Missy Elliott tickets were bought.
And I was like, I like Missy Elliott.
Yeah, you text me.
You was like, should I reply?
Yes.
I was sitting there like, no, it's cool.
Accounting's fine here.
But like, you know I fuck with Miss you, right?
But you're happy birthday.
The mom.
Yeah, it was in.
Your mom was family flew in.
Mom's birthday, I believe, right?
Yeah, it was the day we landed.
And I was thinking, like...
So I knew you had family time.
It was family.
You were in family time.
But how fucked up I am, I started thinking, like, I mean, my mom has had other birthdays.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Like, she'll be all right.
And she's here a weekend with me.
Yeah, I can just go see Missy.
Yeah.
But no, we did the dinner thing and I had family out here, so it's cool.
But how was the show?
Bro, I'm telling you right now, man.
I cannot...
We obviously are familiar with Missy's game.
We know what she's capable of, one of the greatest artist
producers, creatives, visionaries, whatever.
I mean, she set the bar for what music videos in the early 2000s would look like.
She's just a complete, complete artist in every sense of the word.
I've never seen her live.
So this is why I wanted to make it a point to go to the show because I'm like, I never seen Missy Live.
She doesn't tour often either.
This was her first tour in 21 years.
Yeah, it's crazy.
So I was like, you know what?
Let me catch this show.
Buster Roms was on the bill
Sierra was on the bill
Timberlin was on the bill
So I said
Oh no I gotta see this show
They all have real
Great hits together
Yeah
They've all worked together
Get to the show
Uh
Got there
Sierra was just wrapping up
Look great
Buster comes on
We don't even have to talk about
What Buster does
Was Russell on the crowd?
He probably was somewhere in the vicinity
I mean I wouldn't know
Maybe backstage I don't know
Did the house music?
Did they play any future?
Like in between sets?
They didn't really play no music between sets.
And if they did, it was real low.
It wasn't like a DJ was on stage.
It wasn't that type of,
because they had to,
they were moving around production so much.
So it was like people on stage.
And so when Buster came out,
you know, Buster's doing his real hip-hop,
him in Spliff and Scratchett tour doing what they do.
And Buster before he finished his set,
he was like,
I want you
to understand
what y'all
are about to see
when Missy hits
this stage
like her production
it's
you haven't seen
anything like this
like just wait until
and this is Buster
Buster puts on
one of the greatest shows
in hip hop
so I'm like okay
but we all know that
because we know
Missy's a visionary
she's the artist
we know
we to expect something grand
and when she came out
bro I'm telling you
from the time she hit the stage
to the time she was done
it was like
She created this world and we were just all privileged to get a peek into it.
From the costumes, the choreaical.
All of her dancers are here from Chicago.
She incorporated a lot of the Chicago house music samples into some of her hits her hits.
So it was like just that vibe and the set, the colors, the pyro.
I mean, Missy look great.
Just everything, the attention to detail.
Everybody was in the right spots hitting their marks.
it just felt like a well-oiled machine.
And sitting there, I'm thinking,
if Missy is able to do this in the Allstate Arena,
imagine what she can do on the Super Bowl halftime stage.
And we were talking about this in the green room.
And maybe I said a blasphemous question,
but do you think she's big enough?
I know she's doing arena tours right now,
and she's Missy Elliott.
Don't get me wrong.
Yeah.
But in the Super Bowl debate that we typically have with halftime,
Is she big enough?
Is she a household name enough for Middle America?
I believe so.
She's in the rock and roll hall of fame.
Okay.
You got to be huge to be in a rock and roll hall of fame.
That's nobody.
You don't just get into that.
Yeah, but I feel like so is like Matchbox 20.
Yeah, but it's different.
It's different because of her music, the hits.
Like, Missy has had, I believe she's had Pepsi commercials.
Yeah, I think so.
I just think when you're on that level, and then again,
It's taking a nostalgic trip down.
Oh shit.
Remember this record?
Yeah.
Remember that record?
Like, God, I forgot she did this record.
She was performing songs that I forgot she had.
Yeah.
And I'm just sitting there like, she literally just took us through 17, 18 years of hit records.
I think she, I feel like she'd have to be paired with somebody.
Not that Bruno Mars or Beyonce needed to be paired together, but.
She can be paired with everybody she was just on the stage with.
Because when they ended the show, Buster came out.
out, did the record he has with Missy.
Sierra came out.
At the Super Bowl would be hilarious.
Why not?
No, I'm with it.
I think it'd be great.
I just don't know if it checks out with the NFL.
If they're allowing that.
But why wouldn't it, though?
I don't know.
50 cent was at the Super Bowl halftime show.
Upside down.
Yeah, I guess that's true.
What do we? Once 50 hit the Super Bowl halftime show, what are we talking about here?
But look what it took with Dre.
Dre had to bring out Snoop, Mary, Kendrick, Eminem, and 50.
That's insane.
I feel like all five of them could maybe just do the Super Bowl halftime by the
themselves, let alone.
And I believe Missy Elliott is one of those.
Because like you said, you can get in the medley of the songs that she's produced and
written for other artists and have them.
Like if she has Sierra come out.
Yeah.
She's in the NFL, right?
Did they come back out to do the records that they all have together?
That's how they ended the show.
Gotcha.
Buster came out.
Sierra came out.
Of course, Timbalin came out.
They gave a tribute to Magoo.
And then, I'm missing his name.
They produced Static.
Okay.
So yeah, it was just a beautiful beautiful.
I got a bunch of footage.
I could send peach.
It was just a beautiful show.
Missy looked great.
She sounded great.
I mean,
it was definitely one of the only person I haven't seen live that I think may have an equally or a better show than Missy that I've seen is probably usher.
Okay.
As great as Chris Brown is, I don't, I don't even think Chris's show is as good as Missy show.
Yeah.
I mean, Missy and Buster, too would probably be like one A, one B as far as.
music videos and my childhood.
So the visuals they would do together.
And that's what I'm thinking is...
And Sierra has a whole visual look too.
So they're all visual artists.
This is why I'm thinking about...
Because, you know, for the halftime show,
there's no...
You can get whatever you want.
As far as production set,
they'll try anything.
For sure.
So I'm just looking at that
and looking at her show Friday night,
I'm thinking about
if she had that stage
and that level of production available,
like the halftime show,
it's the big show.
the things that Missy would do with that
we just have to see it
I think that we absolutely need it
we don't talk about Missy enough
when we start talking about the legends
obviously we know what she's done
but we don't talk about Missy enough
and when I saw Friday night
we should not be talking about
some of these other people
as much as we do if we don't talk about me
I feel like you made some noise
when she said make some noise
no I was recording I had my phone in my hand like
oh can we hear your background
of you screaming I wasn't yelling but I was definitely
like if you would have saw me you would have been like
what are you doing? Put your phone down.
Like I literally, because it was something that I knew that,
one, I haven't seen anything like this.
I've been to The Glow in the Dark Show, great show.
Yeah.
I don't think it was as good as Missy Show.
I've been to countless other shows that would,
Bad Bunny Show.
Which was great.
Great.
Kind of the same thing, creates his own world,
invite you into it.
Yeah.
I still don't think Bad Bunny Show was as great as Missy Show.
Did you go to Jesus?
No.
That was the greatest show I've ever seen.
But I could imagine Missy's.
would top that.
Is Jesus the one where he had the floating stage?
No, that was the Pablo.
Or was it the one where he was on a cliff?
He had like a pyramid in the middle of the shit.
Yeah.
And Tribe Called Quest before Fife died, opened.
Okay.
It was, yeah.
Real hip-hop.
I went to the garden and in Newark.
That's how good that shit was.
Yeah, no, Missy, if you caught the show, you know what I'm talking about.
If you didn't, you know, it's, I don't know if or when Missy will ever go out.
She hasn't been on the road in over 20 years.
and that was something that Buster spoke to
because Buster had a show scheduled this year as well
but he said once he heard that Missy was going out
he said I waited 20 years to go on the road with her
and I wasn't going to miss the opportunity
I mean Buster Rhymes does if there's a stage available
Buster will be there he's performing
he's definitely performing but Buster
I mean just his it's crazy to see how consistently
great of a performer Buster has been throughout the years
like Buster has not tapered off at all
and Buster is probably
he's probably 50 years old now.
Yeah.
Looks great.
Sounds great.
Well, he went from steroid bus to Ozempic bus.
Did he add some more weight on or?
No, he looks good.
Okay.
He still looks good.
He lost me with that video that he posted when he was just standing on the beach fully dressed.
I didn't know what Buster was trying to take us with that video.
Some jodicy shit.
Yeah, but I just don't know what Buster was doing that day.
But, you know, still as far as just an artist and a performer, Buster and Spliff and Scratchettor,
what they're able to do still, you know,
Buster's been in the game over 30 years.
Still, you know, they can outperform
plenty of these hip hop artists today.
Well, don't sound so innocent
because, I mean, everyone understands
you going to a Missy Elliott show.
Yeah.
But you also were, like,
rooftop poppy.
You was like...
Oh, no, I was outside.
You was like, me when I was 25.
That was just Friday.
Let me tell you about my Saturday,
Rory.
I'm just giving you Friday.
Let me get into what I did
and you thought of Saturday.
I'm at a family barbecue.
you being extremely responsible.
So I was really outside for me and you.
But planting out, planting out flag.
You was keeping my name alive out there?
I was planting out flag in the streets, running around Chicago, let them know who was in the city.
Bag some numbers.
Just for me, though.
Just for you.
Just for you.
In case you want to have some conversation.
Yeah.
So Saturday, a friend of mine lives out here, she's like, yo, I'm taking you to do tourist stuff.
I'm going to do all the tour because I was like I've never been outside in Chicago.
Yeah.
Anytime I'm here, it's hotel, venue, restaurant.
It's never like a day moving around the city.
Bet.
I'm going to take you different restaurants.
I wanted to do the architecture, a boat ride, but that was like a two-hour ride.
I wasn't going to be on a boat for two hours in Chicago.
I wasn't doing that.
But went by the river, walked around.
I went to about five, six different rooftops just to get the vibe, just to see what people were doing.
I haven't heard you was drinking.
Had some old-fashioned.
Yeah, Chicago Mall is crazy.
Listen, this is what you wanted me to do, Rory.
You wanted me to go outside.
You wanted me to plant my flag and, like, your mall, get outside.
Had I known you were going on the Missy Elliott show, you were going to be drinking old-fashioned
on a rooftop, you was going to be at Seoul House, I would have abandoned my family.
Damn, I ain't think about it like that.
Like, yeah, would it just, I would have disappeared.
Nothing just disappeared like alcohol in rooftops.
Yeah.
Like, they'll be fine.
They'll be fine.
I'll be back on the while.
I'll leave money for pizza.
That's how fair as you do.
There's money on the table.
Order some pizza.
They'll be fine.
Yeah.
Damn, I would have did that.
Beautiful.
The weather was perfect.
It was just a great day walking around.
And I learned that Chicago is very, very much like New York City, but just a lot cleaner.
Yeah.
Wasn't it Twin City?
Second City?
Second City, yeah.
I think that's in, this could be like a New York arrogance thing.
But I think it's called Second City because it's like New York.
It's just number two.
When Kanye says summertime shy.
I get it.
Yeah.
But I feel like that's a lot of cities, especially in the Midwest, that get cold as fuck.
They really appreciate their summertime.
Yeah.
Because there's only a few months that you could really be outside.
I just appreciated it because, again, you know, the architecture, you know, the river being in the middle of the city, all of that is just the energy is dope.
Clean.
You can walk.
And then again, jumping around at different restaurants, rooftops.
I went to a really nice restaurant on the river, RPM seafood.
Okay.
Beautiful view.
Great food.
I had some Savian Blanc for you.
Appreciate it.
Savian Poppy.
Yeah, it was just a great time.
I had a great time.
And I was outside from two.
p.m. till about almost 2 a.m.
I did a 12-hour shift
running around Chicago. How'd you end
the evening? Took a hot shower.
Had a lot of catching up to do with you
your friend from Chicago?
Oh, no, no, no. It's strictly platonic,
right? She was bagging for you.
No, no, no. It was literally just showing me around.
Show me the different spots. I don't know
much about Chicago. But ended in the night,
at Soho House for a few.
Went back to the room, show it, and passed
out, because I knew we had to get up and do the show.
the next day.
I'm so corny.
That used to be my line all the time.
When we were on the road.
Show me around your city.
But did you actually mean?
Show me around the city?
Because I actually wanted to see.
No, of course.
And I did see a lot of Chicago.
But I could like go see the city by myself.
Yeah.
I didn't really need local knowledge to go see the, every time.
Go see the bean.
Like I could Google where that's that.
It's cool.
I could see the Sirius Tower.
Like everywhere in Chicago you can see it.
I do want to come back though because I want to see, you know, the other side
of Chicago now.
Good luck with you on your own.
Why not?
I just want to see, oh, I went to the beach.
Okay.
I went to the Shore Club.
You should stay in like that area of Chicago.
No, man, but you got to.
With the amount of gang members that were scaring me at our live show,
I feel like I don't want to go see that side.
You know what I noticed, man?
Like, it's hoods everywhere.
It's gangs everywhere.
I just feel like us being from New York City growing up in a certain culture and a certain
environment, we can, we can maneuver in different cities in those areas.
Because my thing is if you always go and they just know that what type of energy you're on, just like, yo, love, respect, just trying to see how y'all live out here.
I heard this a dope soul food spot over here trying to.
People are not fucking with you.
Agreed.
But still, I'd have to move around with somebody that.
Oh, no, you got to be with somebody that you.
I don't know what shirt color to wear.
You can't Google, you can't Google image this.
Like, you can't Google image where Sharks is at and where Club O is at.
You can't Google it.
I feel like the amount of you.
comments about Chicago gang culture. I probably could just Google what's where and what not's
where. Yeah, no, you can Google that, but still have somebody with you that can kind of tell you,
like, all right, we go over here, let's go over here, let's do this. And I've been to the south side
of Chicago. There's great areas in South Side. Yeah. It's just, you know, at this point in my life,
I'm a little too old too. I listen, I totally get it. But last time we were in Chicago,
actually, though, I went down to the South Side because I think Division Show was over there.
And then we had somebody from Chicago with us. They took us around.
Like on a quick tour, even took us to the McDonald's that R. Kelly was fucking kids at.
I don't know why y'all would want to see that.
I think it was just on the way, and he just pointed that out.
That's what all Kelly said.
Like y'all saw the series, right?
Yeah, that's the McDonald's they were talking about.
That being a landmark now is crazy.
Like, somebody tell you, yeah, you've seen a documentary right while Kelly after school was waiting for year.
Why would you point that out?
Like, that's just weird.
That's some wild shit.
But the show itself, Chicago, one of the,
my favorite crowds. Oh my God. By far one of my favorite crowds that we've had. Um, we did our couple
segment. Amazing. The second one was a little interesting. Yeah. Couple came up. Well, not a couple.
We didn't even know if they knew each other. Before we get into that, because we were, we saw somebody
in a meet and greet. Uh, and he said he was in the city, his girlfriend had planned a weekend for them.
And, you know, it was kind of, you know, things, plans kind of fell through, didn't go as they
expected and he said his girl felt like she didn't do a good job or he wasn't enjoying
herself. So I believe his name is Nick and Sierra. Yeah, that sounds right. His girl's name is
Sierra. Sierra, we want you to know that Nick enjoyed herself. He had a great time. We
was supposed to bring y'all on stage last night. But, you know, when we up there just in the
moment, we kind of things slip our mind. But we wanted to make sure that Sierra understood that
Nick had a great time. He loves you. Appreciate everything you did from this weekend. And he just
wanted you to know that you had a great time and he enjoyed itself.
That sounded like when you called into the radio station.
Yeah.
And talked about your girl.
That was the podcast moment of that.
Yeah, but I wanted to, you know, but because I felt bad after the show because we,
we didn't have on the stage.
Like he did and wanted his girl to know that he was having a great time and he appreciated
and we totally forgot.
But instead, we had two people up there that worked together and had been dating for a month.
What were both their names?
I can't remember.
Wayne and Amaya.
Yes.
When Wayne got up there.
think he was like all there do you know do you think he knew where he was at well yeah because
i got a little scared when he came up i was like how how far should we take this and you know i
don't i don't like to diagnose people that's not my thing oh that's what you love to do you have
you have prescriptions in your pocket but so imagine just patting somebody some some pills yeah like
i know what you think they're on the spectrum yeah and you don't have it in a bottle you just
have it in your palm yeah i maybe he was just nervous but he didn't i can't
tell by his eyes he didn't really know where he was at he's he's actually a lot similar to you
but he's just not but i was on the bill no but that's the difference i knew where i was that was the only
difference that was the difference y'all are both the only child oh yeah that's right he's the only
child and once he said that made all the sense in the world of me i'm like okay i get it you know it was
fucked up when he said he was the only child somebody in the crowd went oh like we were victims like
your parents should have fuck more i just don't feel like that's a sympathy yeah yeah yeah
Oh, I'm like, are you okay?
He was cool, though.
No, very, very cool.
Wayne was cool.
A mile, the other hand, was a little interesting.
You could tell she has, she's lived some lives.
And she definitely never listened to the podcast.
No.
Was dragged there.
Yeah.
Did not even agree to come on that stage.
I could see it in her fucking eyes too.
So we asked questions.
We couldn't get straight answers at all.
One of them said that they were sweating the other one and they said, no, it's reversed.
We couldn't get a real answer.
No, Wayne cleared it up at the end of the night.
When we did a cute.
at the end, he made sure Benner found him,
Ben and handed him to Mike.
And he said, listen, I just want to let everybody know.
She's the one that's been on my line trying to hang out.
So Wayne stood on business at the end.
He sat down.
He definitely had us with it.
And another thing in the argument.
Let me let you all know something before y'all leave the city winery tonight.
She's been on my line.
I'm not sweating her.
She's been on my line wanting to hang out with me.
And tonight is a night out.
We're having a date.
So I just wanted to clear that up for the people.
Which I think she had left at that point.
He was by himself.
So that's why he could get his shit off.
Well, she's been clocked out.
She's been checked out of that relationship.
So because we couldn't get a real answer,
Maul took her phone and went through it.
With her permission.
Of course.
She unlocked it.
I mean, with a bit of,
it took some talking to.
Yeah.
It took you putting her phone in front of her face to try to get the face idea.
Because it's that face ID, not mine, hers.
So I put the phone in front of her face.
She claimed she didn't have Instagram.
So she had Instagram, but she doesn't really use it.
But then when I opened it, you know where you open the phone,
and you can see the apps that's open.
Yeah.
Snapchat was right there.
I'm like, oh, so this is what you use.
Okay.
So I go to Snapchat.
And for backstory, these two work together.
They work together.
They've been, according to Wayne, and Wayne's mind, they've been married for 30 years.
But according to Maya, they've been talking for like a month.
Kind of.
Yeah.
They've happened to just be in the same place for a month.
They worked together.
Yeah, they had the same shift a week in a row.
So you go through the Snapchat, and at first, I thought you were just gasping it, like, for entertainment purposes.
Mm-mm.
What was on that phone?
So it turns out that
The guy in that chat on her Snapchat
Is one of their coworkers
They all work together
And so I'm like
Oh okay once you said
Because before I opened it
You see I had some message waiting
So I said who is this
Because it was the first message
And Wayne said oh like that's
That's the homie
That's the coworker.
Yeah
Oh okay
So this is innocent
Let's just see what the coworker talking about
So I opened a snap
Co worker standing on a big box of
business. First line, I can't wait to eat your five pussy from the back.
Whoa, sir, hello. It's a freaky-ass company. Who are you? What's your name? I said, what?
And you know what's funny? The first question I asked her was, have you talked to anyone else at work?
And she was like, God, I would never do that. And I believed her. Yeah. She said that would convince,
like, that was the only answer she gave, like, would never do that. Not in that Snapchat.
But meanwhile, from the back.
spell five, F-Y-E.
That's when you know he can't wait.
I hope they're hiring.
That company is crazy.
How much
they pay their HR person?
You got to deal with that?
But then Wayne's face, after I read it,
he was kind of looking at her like,
oh, so this would y'all be talking about?
So that's why when Wayne sat down,
he made sure Ben understood, yo, bring that mic over here.
Just to let y'all know, she's been hitting me up.
Yo, no judgments, but fucking that many.
co-workers is crazy to me.
I don't know if she was.
Getting like one off secretly, I think everyone's kind of been in that situation before.
Yeah.
Yeah.
But you going like on dates with one and Snapchat DMing at the same time?
But I don't know if they had sexual relations yet though.
I don't know if I got that energy from them.
Really?
I don't know.
I don't think they had sex.
No.
I don't think they hooked up.
No, I think they hang out.
They, you know, talk.
They flirt.
They, you know, you probably like, yo, let's go to this.
Let's do this.
And she's like, all, cool.
But I didn't get.
sexual energy from them. I didn't get that.
Yeah, they were interesting, but the other couples were great.
Shout out to Lamont and I believe Tasia.
I'm just putting couples with each other's.
I don't even know. I think it's Lamont and Tasia, though.
I love when the couples get nervous and kind of tell on themselves.
We didn't even ask this question.
And one of the guys in the couple was like,
you know, I never fucked my ex in three years.
We didn't ask that.
We asked your name and where you're from.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Now I'm just going to get right to it.
Now, I don't know my ex. I haven't seen it.
three years.
Cool.
But outside of that, it was a really good show.
Great show.
Shout out to the Corner Conversation podcast.
Yeah.
Shout out to Boo from Boongadi.
He came to the show.
Yeah, man, Chicago was great, man.
We had a great, great time in the city.
When I was on my way to the show, actually, the elevator door opened and your mom was
standing right there.
Yeah, she was just chilling on the third floor for the whole trip.
I said, listen, Mom, come on, bring it in.
Hug.
Happy birthday.
That was the last person I was expecting to see when the elevator doors open.
Yeah.
And she, uh, I mean, she came.
to the show for the beginning.
Yeah.
And then when it was time to time to pot,
got far the fuck out of here.
I don't want to hear what y'all about to talk about.
No, but I don't blame it.
Well, I blame it all on you. It's your influence.
Well, yeah, I mean, I would never say any of these things.
Yeah, yeah, no.
It wasn't for you.
I'm influencing you to say these things.
Yeah, I'm peer pressured every single time.
Right.
Did you guys do anything after the show?
Well, I called Soho House because that's one of the few spots that's open at that time
that has, that's not considered fast food.
Yeah, one of my favorite Soho House is too.
Yeah.
So I went there
And as I get there
So I'm leaving the venue
I call, the kitchen closes at 1030
At this time it's probably 950
Cool, not too far
10 minutes away
Run back to the hotel
Drop my bag off
Go to Soil House
When I get to Soul House
I go to open the door
The door is locked
So I'm like, what's going on?
So the valet booth is right there
The guy says, yo
Give it like five minutes
They just close the doors
But I'm on a clock
The kitchen closes at 1030
So I'm like okay
It's 1005 I'm good
as I'm standing there,
it's a pretty young lady standing outside.
But, you know, she can tell, like, she's upset.
She's yelling.
She's curs.
She doesn't have any shoes on.
So I'm looking around.
And you can tell everybody that's standing out there is kind of like,
they already know what's going on.
I'm late to the party.
I don't have any idea.
So I'm liking around.
A Sunday night, though, it's so how?
Sunday.
No shoes on?
No shoes on.
So I talk to the valet guy.
I'm like, oh, what's going on?
So he don't want to talk too loud because the girl is literally right behind him.
So he's looking at me.
He was like, oh, like, you know, he knows a little situation.
She got into a fight upstairs.
They kicked out, and that's why they locked the doors.
She left the shoes up there in the fight?
They just kicked out.
So I said, what?
So as I'm talking to him, I hear,
Ma'am, what the fuck you doing in Chicago?
So now I'm scared.
Now you're part of the problem.
Yes.
You banned.
So now look at her.
I'm like, oh, like, okay.
I'm like, what's going?
I'm like, yo, what's up with you?
You okay?
Like, nah, everybody's going to die.
I'm like, me too.
I just got here.
And I'm going to die.
She was like, yo, everybody's going to die tonight.
So I'm like, wait, but hold on.
First of all, let's relax.
You don't want to talk like that.
I said, what happened?
They got me fucked up.
You know, when if somebody's drunk, everybody got you fucked up.
So I said, okay, but what happened?
So as she's talking, I can start to smell of alcohol.
I'm like, okay, drunk, get it.
You know what I'm thinking pretty girl.
And so how she probably caught her dude in here, you know, trying to be low.
I'm thinking that.
She went through a whole thing and, you know, they kicked her out.
So I'm like, but wait, where are your shoes?
They're upstairs.
They got my phone and my shoes.
I was like, but they're bringing it to you, right?
Because now I'm concerned.
I'm like, boy, they're bringing it to you, right?
She was like, yeah, but everybody's still going to die.
I'm like, okay, cool.
Well, the guy at our show did say every woman in Chicago is BD or GD.
And I remember that.
Remember your hand signals?
Once you said that, I gave her hug.
I said, peace and blessing.
You know, they're going to bring your stuff to you.
I'm not affiliated, civilian.
Try to enjoy your night.
Then I lean over to look in the window of the lobby.
and my goddess at the front desk he sees me he was like go around to the side so I was like
oh you got the goodfellers treatment at so house through the kitchen through the kitchen so I was
like okay cool I go around the side come in as I get to the front desk he starts telling me what
happened like yo she was asleep you know and then she woke up and she started just fighting the
people next to her and then she slapped the chef I said oh so she was really on demon time
he was like yeah like that kicked out go upstairs I'm still thinking about food on a clock now
was 10, 10, 1015, I'm like, all right, I got to get this order it.
Get upstairs, run right to the bar.
I'm like, hey, man, can I order some food real quick?
Sure.
As soon as I'm about to say what I want, he was like, oh, actually the kitchen's closed.
Y'all told me 10.30.
It's 1015.
He's like, yeah, somebody, the chef got slapped.
He shut everything down.
I said, wait, all right, I kind of understand if I'm the chef and somebody slaps me in the
face, I'm shutting the kitchen down as well.
There will be no late night orders.
I just want to know how did this young woman get into the kitchen to even smack the chef?
So from what the bartender was explaining when she woke up and she started fighting people next to her.
She just woke up swinging, bad dream.
She woke up and just started maybe just cursing people out and got into it.
So then the staff, they start to separate people.
Because I don't even know, is there security at so-hous?
I don't even think of security at Ohio.
Yeah, there is.
There's?
Might have been short staff this night.
Whatever.
They said they started to separate them.
So the chef was one of the people that came out and started separating them.
She started as they're escorting the out, she's grabbing plates that are on tables, tossing them.
And then when they kind of let her go while she was by the elevator, that's when she turned around and slapped the chef.
So he shut it down.
Couldn't get my vegan burger.
But then a gentleman that works there, he's a waiter.
I just said, bro, listen, man, I just washed here from the venue.
I was downstairs outside for like 10 minutes.
They told me they locked the doors.
I'm just trying to get something to eat real quick.
he was nice enough he went in the kitchen he made it happen got my burger the bartender gave me a drink
gave me some pineapple juice bottle of water took care of me had a great time uh and then the chef appeared
to have any marks on his face i didn't see the chef okay i never saw him he probably was in the back
pissed off i feel a little little weird about that if i'm a chef and all the knives and sharp objects
i have to defend myself and i get smacked by a chick with no shoes on yeah i'm like i'm probably
never coming back to work i mean because you know every
Everyone in the kitchen was calling him pussy.
Or, I don't know if the chef should be breaking up a fight.
Yeah, that's a weird.
You're the chef, bro.
You can stay in the kitchen.
Like, don't even just ain't.
Focus on the burger.
It's other staff here that can take care of this.
But overall, it was cool.
You know, the Soul House, this is one of my favorite soul houses in Chicago.
So the vibe was cool other than that.
But that almost destroyed my night because if I couldn't get a burger, I would have
fucking, I would have been outside with her, like, everybody's going to die tonight.
Well, you know, something similar happened to me at Dumbo House where I got my
Soul House membership, like, taken away.
What?
It ended up getting suspended because it was sort of a misunderstanding, but...
Okay.
I get an email one random Wednesday, like, Rory based off everything that happened on said
date, and because of this person, we no longer want you at Soul House.
So I was like, what the fuck?
Right.
So I went to Dumbo House with a few of my friends, and then they met with other friends.
One of them being, I won't say the model's name.
Very, very famous model.
Okay.
She was definitely going through her.
drug phase at that time.
Okay.
Mixed that with alcohol and was losing her mind in Dumbo House.
So they grab her, kick her out.
I don't think anything of it.
Downstairs, she assaults a security guard, throws up in the lobby, and then breaks a window
of a car that was parked outside.
So I'm like, what that got to do with me?
Yeah.
Well, it was under your membership.
She was your guest.
I was like, I knew that bitch for one minute.
But why did they assume she was your guest?
No, her name was under mine
Because like a group of us went to the soul house
And people that don't have memberships
You put their name under
And she was very famous
Like, oh, okay
People knew exactly
They said her full name
Got you
In the email
So people knew what time it was
Yeah
But it was under mine
Yeah
I had to go to like a soul house hearing
I was like yo
I'm trying to tell you all
Like I apologize
Oh you was ratting
You was on the stand rat
Yeah
You were snitching
100%
The fuck I
The fuck I didn't
You know, you were snitching for your membership back?
Yeah.
Okay.
Now, I respected.
I wasn't even there.
Yeah.
And if you don't know her like that, it's even more of like a...
And you know, Dumbow House is like, there's a, there's that downstairs that's like a bunch of other stories too.
Yeah.
I was like, man, what the fuck I got to do this?
Yeah.
Like, the assault happened over there.
Like, I get it.
She's on my name.
So I see why you guys are reacting this way.
Yeah.
Well, that's why they do that.
Because they can attach to, if it's an issue, it's a problem.
They can attach it to the person that they know.
Oh.
I was a member.
And so this was like 2018, maybe.
So in 2019, no, 2020, right before COVID happened, I was at, I was in LA for the Grammys.
And I went to Sons of Essex or whatever the fuck it was.
Okay.
And I ran into her.
She was sober at this point now.
Did she remember you?
Of course.
No.
Brand right up and was like, yo, I'm so sorry for everything I did that day.
She's like, how long ago was this?
Like in between the.
time?
2018 to probably 2020.
Yeah, January of 2020.
She held that apology for two years.
I mean, we never saw each other.
We weren't cool like that.
But I respect that, though.
Like, as soon as she saw you the next time, she, she didn't slip her mind and she apologized.
But that shit.
No, I'm not losing myself membership because just some person that happened to be there.
We never losing that membership.
But she was going nuts.
She was just like screaming at strangers enjoying their food.
But that's the, that's the drunk thing.
And even the young lady last night, she was like a really pretty girl.
And I was just like, to be, get to the point when you're this drunk and got kicked out of an establishment like the Soho House.
And now you're standing outside with no shoes on and no phone.
You're too pretty for this.
Like you, you didn't have to, whatever you was drinking, you didn't have to go that hard.
You might be dealing with something.
We understand.
We give grace there.
But you shouldn't be standing outside with no shoes on.
And Dolo.
Like, you smacking chefs by yourself?
Yeah.
Like, it was just a bad look.
But overall, my time here in Chicago was wonderful, was great.
shout out to everybody
and me moving around Chicago
showing love, showing support for us
a lot of people ask for you
we like Methamann and Redman
now. People see me
Yo, where's Rory?
With his family.
You know what I'm saying?
Well, they usually say,
yo, mall, what's up to me?
Yeah, they do.
I still don't know how people get us
nothing about you says mall, but
And it's not like one person.
It happens all the time.
Yeah, yeah.
But I mean, I've heard Seif say that
like people will run up to him
and call him Rosenberg
and he's like, do I look like I'd be a Rosenberg?
closer than you and I would be
I still think that's insane
Do I look like Rosenberg?
No, I get it
But definitely closer than you and I for sure
But other than that
I think
We didn't miss too too much
When we're on the road
Sometimes I feel like
When we go out
So much shit happens
Yeah
It was kind of a quiet week
Your man was kind of wilding though
Who's my man
Yadi Yadi I feel like
Has been bugging a bit
I think
I did see him something
He was on IG Live
addressing the carri
Boo situation.
Not just that.
A couple situations.
I think Yadi for the past few weeks
keep saying, I'm never going back to social media.
I'm done with this.
I feel like he's been reading so many comments lately
and just had his crash out moment.
Like, fuck all that.
I'm crashing out.
I don't care what I say.
I started with this.
I'm going to address everybody at this point.
And that's the dangerous thing about
when you jump into that
because you'll start reading comments
and you'll start seeing what people are saying about you.
And then you feel like you have
to address certain things, but in addressing those certain things, like going on IG Live
or something like that, it's going to create more comments and more back and forth from the
people that are viewing it. And now you're caught up in a whole crash out session.
All right, we'll get to the Caribou thing. But what started it was, you know, his co-host Mitch
on their podcast, which is one of his best friends. They've been friends before he was famous.
Like, that's his man's. I think Mitch was the one that wanted to start a podcast and Yadi was like,
all right, I'll do it with you.
I did see that clip of Yadi saying, I'm a rapper. I don't need to start no
fucking podcast.
And I don't need that.
I did that for you to help build a platform for you and put some money in your pocket,
which I can respect.
You know,
you got a friend and you're like,
okay,
let me try to call Elaine for my boy at the same time.
Use my influence on my platform to help build his.
So I respect that.
But I did see a clip of the episode they had with Kiglock.
And this is what started the crash out based off the comments.
And I'll be honest,
I didn't like what Yadi said.
Like,
I just don't,
I don't think that friends,
should speak to each other in that type of,
in that type of way when you're talking about making money and this style,
you wouldn't be,
you wouldn't have this without me.
Like,
when you're friends,
you don't even need to say that or throw that in the mix.
Yeah,
because Kiglok was sitting there like his parents were arguing.
Yeah.
He just sat there quietly like,
all right.
Yeah.
So I got music out.
Right.
I know they were having a bigger conversation and it got clipped down.
But what,
what Yadi was saying was,
hey Mitch you don't know what it's like to just start something completely from scratch you had me
so don't just go tell someone to go get a job because you never had a job he went on that ramp and
Mitch was cool he didn't say nothing yeah then all of twitter started killing yaddy for the same reason
you're saying like it's kind of fucked up to do that in public with your man's yeah if you're
gonna have that combo do it privately definitely not in front of key lock while it's being
recorded right so yadi then is really mad at the comments but then gets on live and it's like
well Mitch never went to Twitter to say
yo that's how we speak to each other
and then just went on a fuck Mitch rant
like he was supposed to do some
right
they went from being cool
to Mitch probably sitting at home like
are we still on this side
it was my job to go to Twitter to say
right Yadi it's okay to talk to me that way
right yeah I didn't I didn't understand that
and then I've seen Yadi saying that
he was going to end the podcast
that he's not doing it no more
and I just was like I don't
it's okay to have moments
where you fuck up and say things to friends and do shit and then have that moment of accountability
and apologize like, yo listen, man, I said some things I shouldn't say. Because I remember
watching the Kevin Hart documentary, he had a situation like that on the plane with his trainer.
Yeah. And he said some things to his trainer, which is one of his best friends. He went crazy.
One of his best friends. And things that he said, just as men, you don't say to each other, but as friends,
Yeah.
It was just nasty because it's like Kevin, you don't have to say you're the guy here.
You don't have to say you're the superstar.
You don't have to say you're the breadwinner.
Yes, we all know that we're blessed and fortunate enough to have you as a friend in our life to put out ourselves in better situations.
But at the same time, you know, I'm your friend, number one.
But I'm also the guy that's keeping you physically in shape to be this comedic rock star that you are.
I'm training you.
I'm helping you, you know, you know, stay in shape.
feel better about yourself, perform better.
So I have a purpose here too.
It's not like you're just the rich comedic superstar.
You hired me.
I have a craft.
I'm a professional.
But in that, in that, in our work relationship,
we've also developed a chemistry and a brotherhood and a friendship.
Yeah.
That certain things you just don't need to ever say.
And I will give Kevin Hart, you know, props because he recognized,
you know, was drinking, was drunk, said some things I shouldn't say.
He apologized.
I mean, the fact that he didn't even bury that footage is kind of crazy.
But he looked nuts.
But I like that because it's like, I'm going to show y'all my fucked up moments,
but I'm also going to show y'all how as brothers that we also are able to mend that shit and move through it.
So this this Yadi situation, I think is his moment to, you know, he said some things he shouldn't have said.
But now show us the demanding and the accountability moment.
And also, and maybe I missed it, but I don't think I did.
Mitch wasn't saying nothing for Yadi to crash out at it.
It probably was some shit behind the scenes that spilled over into the in front of the camera.
Then do that shit behind the scenes.
I agree.
But it's a tricky thing when, you know, we work together.
And, you know, if anybody knows about this type of shit we do, when you work together and there's things going on behind the scenes, it's hard for that shit not to spill over in front of the camera because it's real emotions.
Yeah, absolutely.
I really feel I'm not going to sit here and act like we don't have this situation going on.
I'm not going to just bury that.
My energy is different, obviously.
and this is why my energy is different.
And then it got paired in with the Caribou thing,
which was already weird.
Because we were at Broccoli City,
and it was Yaddy and a concrete family.
And, like, the talk of the entire festival
was Caribu wasn't on stage with them.
Yeah.
Even on the timeline as well.
So there was clearly something going on.
But the crash out had to be involved with that as well.
He started leaking references of freestyles.
He says she don't write shit.
He created her, dressed her.
You'd never be shit, bitch.
He went nuts.
Do we think that Yadi...
Is this something...
Is he going through something on a personal level?
Yeah, well, of course I don't know.
But judging by his actions publicly...
Because we never seen Yadi like this.
No. Not at all.
But he has been kind of like internet moody for the past few weeks.
To the point that he keeps saying, I'm not going back on social media.
And I think he's just finally cracked and had to get a bunch of shit off his chest.
That he's been wanting to say for quite some time.
Because Yadi has always been great.
at only being seen when he wants to be seen, only being heard when he wants to be heard.
Him even doing a podcast was interesting because it gave us more of a glimpse into Yadis personality.
Yeah.
Which is great.
I've seen a few episodes and a bunch of clips.
So it was good to see Yadhi in that space.
But this Yadhi, though, as far as, you know, the things he's saying and doing and going on Instagram live and things like that.
because I've seen a little more summers than some people.
I've got a little more experience than just watching people.
I wouldn't be surprised if there is something that comes out to where, you know,
Yadi talks about maybe going through some things and he's dealing with some things emotionally and physically
and probably under the influence or something.
I wouldn't be surprised because this type of energy, you can, and again, Yadi is, he's been great.
at just maintaining this really fun, clean image.
I guess I'm with you on a possible substance thing.
I hope that's not the case whatsoever.
I hope not either.
Already even put that on someone,
but it's not like anything's been super crazy.
Like this Mitch moment wasn't that nuts.
Yadde has went through way crazier internet issues
and slander than this entire thing.
And then the Kerwood thing, I mean,
it's not really a shock that you put together
your crew of friends.
Like this wasn't some big
shocking surprise
that the world was like
oh the guy that's behind
this group
helped style them
wrote some bars
for them
yeah I think that
pretty much checks out
so going on these
insane rants to expose everyone
doesn't seem
like a Yadi
type of thing
whatsoever.
It's not the Yadi
that I'm used to
it's Yadi again
he's been so
fun and you know
his image has been
very laid back
and cool
for so many years to see him having this moment.
I just, you know, I hope not, but it has to be attached to something else.
Yeah.
Or something behind the scenes that Mitch did that we don't know about or that Caribou did.
Because she really hasn't said anything publicly.
And we still don't really know why she completely left, but yeah, maybe there could have been
something behind the scenes.
But even she's been posting on her IG, like, you need to move past this.
I have not said a word about you and don't care.
Move the fuck on.
And also, that verse is trash.
The on the radar verse.
I know that's like a huge internet moment.
And I appreciated what Yadi was saying, like on the producer side.
Like, you know, I put the 808s there so everyone's ears will perk up and you would be like the final star of this entire thing.
But I try not to sound like the old hater.
Yeah.
Wasn't that crazy to me that someone revealed they ghost right out of the trash?
Actually, everybody should have kept that to it though?
It wasn't a symbol.
freestyle like I yeah I get it I get it I understand what you said like we know he's written for
city girls yep some of that stuff like that takes and we know yadi is a good writer which ball he wrote
for them don't do that man because I'm gonna be disappointed if he wrote some of those like overly
sexual ball he probably didn't why how your brain went there okay but see we can't do that because
there's references you could YouTube now a big rapping kim's verses saying some nasty
shit. No, Big got one of the craziest bars
ever in his own shit. It's again, Richard
Pride shit, but go to
some of those little Kim references that
Big is rapping them. Yeah.
Like, he's rapping, rapping, wrapping, on them shits and
saying some foul.
It's always funny.
Not only did he write it, he
showed Kim how to deliver that shit.
This is how you got to say it. Because we all believe
Kim when she says something. Because her
delivery is amazing. And then when we got the hard
car poster, it was like, oh, I believe everything she said.
Big, Big was talking about Suck a dick with
conviction.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So how could I hate on Yadi for doing some city girl records that are good?
Definitely not hating on it, but it's just interesting when, you know, you hear some of these
female artists, you know, and it's like, no, but he wrote this.
He wrote this.
And I'm like, okay.
And he wrote that like down.
It's like when you sent me the verse, the last night you wanted me to stay on stage and
he was like, Ayo.
Yeah.
Just reading Ayo.
It's hilarious.
I'm like, bro, you didn't have to put Ayo in.
That's how the verse.
started.
But A.O.
It's just kind of like a, you know, just catch the beat, catch the pocket.
You don't write A.E.O.
In the two words, flow, that's part of it.
If you count the syllables and the bars.
I had a delay reaction because I read the verse when you said, you texted to me.
But when I got back to the room and I read it and I saw A.
Yo.
Just like, you texted me.
I shouldn't read A.O.
I apologize for exposing that I ghost right from all.
It's been
It's been confirmed
But back to the
Caribou would
Like Citi Girls
Isn't really
Like my cup of tea
But I can appreciate
They can cool
Like sort of rap
Yeah
They're not bad rappers
They can deliver it
Yeah
So that Yadi stuff
I think that's like
A cool stat
To say that he was
The writer on that stuff
That takes a lot of talent
Yeah
Yeah
This new generation
I just
I don't get it
Yeah man
What do they hear
I think
Because I understand with the generation right below me
And some of their music
I don't like
But I get it
I get why it works
I see the talent in it
But that on the radars
I just don't get it whatsoever
And maybe I'm just a fucking old nerd
But
No it's not that
Because I always try to compare it to when I was
You know that age 18 19
And what I was listening to
And
I always talk about how I had to sneak to what to listen to a Snoop Doggy style
because that's when gangster rap you know people were frowning upon that
they were trying to like ban it from from stores things like that
but we're talking about guys that were really rapping
we're talking about Snoop Warren G you know flows and and metaphors and
you know that was still rap so this
This era now, this generation now, what they're doing, you know, and I never like to hate on it because, again, it was a moment where, you know, I, me listening to quote unquote gangster rap was, was frowned upon.
And now you look at the figures that we've gotten from that, I guess, genre like a Snoop and a Dr. Drain where they are now.
Like, my mom knows more about what Snoop got going on now than I do.
Yeah.
And I'm just like, I couldn't listen to this when I was younger, but now you know more about Snoop than I doing where he's at and what he's doing.
So this generation
The way they're making their music
Expressing it's a little awkward
For my ear, for your ear
From the generation we come from
It's a lot of out of pocket flows
You know
The melodies are
Creative sometimes
But in other ways it's like
I couldn't catch that melody
And what they were trying to do
So I'm not
I just think there's a certain lack of
Real rap
It's more emotion
It's more
A vibe if you want to say
I don't know if it's emotional.
I think it is just only vibe.
Some of these newer
rappers have emotion in their bar.
Oh, for sure, but I'm talking more about
like this newer generation of
similar to the
on the radar concrete family.
Right.
And some of them I think are okay, but.
Well, we always talk about it.
I do understand why Playboy Cardi is
as successful and as a bigger name as he is.
Whenever I listen to his music,
I find myself trying to have to jump into that world.
And I'm just like,
I still don't, it's not connected.
And maybe it's not supposed to connect to me.
That's always another.
Oh, no, they're not making it for us.
That's why I can't be a hater in this entire thing.
But as a music guy, if you're somebody that loves music,
I just want to hear what they're listening to out there now,
what they're, you know, creating.
And it's like, I can't really connect to that, though.
And I mean, I used to understand when I was in high school listening to like Gucci
and people older than me were like, yeah, what the fuck are y'all listening to?
This is crazy.
Yeah.
I can still find the.
genius in Gucci, even if you are more of a traditional hip-hop type of guy.
This stuff now, it sounds like just like reference verses of like just trying to find a
pocket.
Yeah.
And they just never filled the words in.
That's what most of the shit feels like.
Or it's completely offbeat and not the way like low be the bass guy was offbeat.
But I felt like there was an art to that.
Right.
You're just talking.
Yeah.
You're just saying shit that doesn't even rhyme at this point.
But it's, again, a lot of it is more.
There is a lot of good music, though.
Oh, for sure.
A lot of good music.
I just can't, when you start talking about, yeah, he's rapping or she's rapping.
I'm like, is, are they?
Because that's not, to me it's not rap.
Yeah.
But it's music.
It's, you know, I get it.
I understand the energy and the vibe out there.
But a lot of this newest stuff is just not for me.
I can't really connect to it.
But I do support it because at one point in time, you know, we were out there and
the things we were listening to the generation before us, they didn't understand it.
And they couldn't fuck with it either.
So never want to shit on it, but I just can't really connect a lot of this shit.
Yeah.
I don't know. But I mean, more power to everyone I know.
It's not for me.
Yeah. And that's fine.
Other people seem to like it.
Also while we were on the road, Drake updated the hundred gigs.org, added three new records
that he leaked the day prior on his Instagram, SOD, which we had heard a version of already.
No Face, which I actually really like that record.
And then Circadian Rhythm.
Yeah.
Which had cool production.
I'm not mad at these little three packs.
I think it's cool.
I like it.
I think it's, you know, it's a way of us still getting some new music from one of the biggest artists,
a very unique way of him, a very different way for him to release music.
But I like it.
I like everything attached to the visuals, giving us behind the scenes in the studios,
listening to, you know, some of our favorite songs throughout the years and seeing the process of, you know,
tweaking verses, tweaking lines, things like that.
The no-face one, and listening to that, I was surprised because, you know,
for Drake to be in the game as long as he has been over probably 15 years now,
for him to still be finding new flows.
Yeah.
Is interesting to me because he's been putting out so much music throughout the years.
And, you know, whenever you see rappers like that still be able to unlock different flows,
it's always dope, you know, to kind of hear that.
Like, that's an interesting thing.
Like, and that, to me, the opening bars and no face, I was like, okay, like, he's, he's found he's unlocked a new level.
Yeah, I mean, I'm always just here for rapping Drake
Yeah, that's why I like it
But never complaining about that
I saw some people upset
Because he doesn't really address
He took Yadi off SOD
Which again, I don't want to make this
Like the Yadi hating episode
Oh, we love Yaddy, fuck with him
Just that
I hated his verse on that
So now I like the record
Because I like Drake's verse
But people were mad that on the no face shit
He was halfway addressing
What's been going on
Instead of a directist
But I don't know
I just don't care anymore
I really just don't care
I think that's how
I think that's just probably
what it is from here on
out like certain songs
certain bars
I think will be dedicated
to just addressing
and kind of like
you know
just just reminding like
yeah I didn't forget
you know I know what's you know
we went through the whole thing
and it's still like
on my mind it's like
oh okay I'm glad they
I'm glad they showed their face
they showed their hand like
now I know who's who
and what's what
um is it a bit
hypocritical though
to also put
on your fencedo, we're going to win round two, and then you just halfway address it on certain
records instead of a direct?
Again, I...
Because that doesn't win rounds.
I don't know if this is considered round two.
I have great to say that, but when is round two?
I have no idea.
Again, so we don't know.
We just getting music, but I don't, again, I'm not attaching everything to a battle and a fight
and this thing.
It's just like, you know, I know we're going to get bars and directed to certain people forever.
I think Drake, that's just in the zone he's in from here on now.
He's not going to forget certain things that, you know, was said and who said it.
But I don't know if we ever get the battle like we got in April, May, June.
I don't know if it looks like that.
I think it's going to be dedicated to albums, dedicated to, you know, songs.
And that's not going to be a whole you drop, I drop, you drop, I don't think we'll get it like that.
I don't think so either.
I think anything will really just be addressed on albums, if anything.
Yeah.
But I did see a lot of rumors that Kendrick is on the way, which I think is like...
DJ Head has been dropping blue caps for like five days behind everybody talking about you a kid.
But also what would be cap?
I also think the Kendrick is coming prediction is also a weird one.
Like an A-list artist isn't about to put out more music.
Like we know Kendrick is going to continue to put out music.
So either say a date or don't say anything.
And also how could it be cap?
Is DJ head saying
Kendrick's not putting music out?
I think also to people that are saying things
and saying that they spoke to Kendrick
and, you know, something is on the way
like immediately, like in the next couple of days.
I think that's what DJ head is more so speaking to,
like, cut it out because I'm obviously
have a close ear to the camp.
I'm in communication and he probably knows
that Kendrick is not even done with the project yet.
Yeah.
I also just feel like Kendrick doesn't speak to people like that at all.
It speaks to not many, but he has his select few in his circle that he speaks to.
And, you know, I think Head has a, has a, has a, has a, has a, has a, has a, has a, has a, has a, has a, has a, has a, has a, has a, has a, has a, has a, has a, he knows directly when Kendrick is dropped.
Yeah.
Um, um, I did want to see the Kanye, uh, concert stream in South Korea.
I, but we just didn't have time.
Because the set list looked fucking crazy.
Mm-hmm.
Um, he started out.
mainly with new shit, but he went through a whole run from All Falls Down for the next two hours of just all classicists.
This was just, he just wanted to do a random concert.
Yeah, 41,000 people, South Korea, for the fuck of it.
Insane.
He even did four or five seconds.
And I'm the only one that would have sung along.
That's your jam?
Listen, man, when you go start with All Falls Down, Jesus walks through the wire, I heard him say,
Touch the sky. Gold digger. Diamonds. Late morning. Stronger. I wonder good life. Can't tell me nothing.
Flashing lights. Homecoming, heartless. Run this town. Power. All the lights. Monster.
His catalog is fucking crazy. Devil in a new dress. Run away. Hell of a life. Mercy. Click. On site. Black skinhead. New Slaves. Blood on the leaves. Bound to
Myles. It just continues. This is like an insane. This is insane catalog to run off like that.
That's absolutely crazy that that artist. Those are his records.
I don't know.
Can anyone really see Kanye universes?
Looking at this makes me think he would be number one.
I mean, the only artist would be Drake.
Yeah, but I mean, we saw, he already took that, though.
He just played CLB over.
So he said South Korea, 41,000 people.
What was this for, though?
Because we know Kanye is very intentional.
He's very, everything is a strategic.
Well, he started the show out with fuck Adidas.
So I think he just had some.
things on his mind. That's all.
So this was a fuck Adidas concert in South Korea?
Yeah.
He could have did that in like the Meadowlands.
They probably got factories over there.
I think that's more so what it is.
I think, I think.
He was definitely doing some clothes shit over there.
It's a business move for sure for Kanye.
He's definitely probably in business with a manufacturer over there.
Yo, and they, they were making like fake leaked text message conversations that were
catching a lot of steam from like Twitter pages that post real facts between him and
Playboy Cardi.
like, yo, I just got the pass for North Korea.
You need to meet me now.
Bring the laughing gas.
Like, people were really concerned.
I'm like, wait.
Y'all thought, Kaii got a North Korea pass and hit Playboy Cardi.
Service shit is just like, how do y'all come up with this shit, man?
Speaking of Laughing Gas, did you see Danny Lee, Danny Lee?
Danny Lay.
Get a DUI, that video footage?
No.
She, well, unfortunately, hit somebody that was on a scooter in Miami.
with her range rover and then just kept driving gets pulled over
cops had the body came on she said I'm an artist I'm a singer you can't arrest me
she said that mm-hmm it's on camera I'm an artist I'm a singer you can't arrest me
mm-hmm and the cop said ma'am you hit somebody with a scooter we can arrest you
she know she know Michael Jackson got arrested before
this is the greatest artist ever he got arrested
Danny Lay you're coming with us like you're definitely
getting arrested. A former president
which is arrested.
You think you're above.
You can't arrest me. They arrested Dr. Martin Luther the King.
You're getting arrested, man.
Are you crazy? And you hit
somebody? It's not like they just pulling you over.
You hit somebody. And they suffered from like a
ruptured kidney and like a broken
It was fucked up.
Oh no, that's, well, why didn't she stop?
She was probably so drunk, she didn't even realize
she did it. That's what I'm guessing.
Because there was no footage of the actual hit and run,
just the body cam footage
the cops pulling over yeah but like a mile down the road from where the scooter shit was yeah that was
that was fuck i don't understand how people get DUIs now i mean bro if you know you're if you know
you're twisted when i got when i got a DUI well it got thrown out but there was no ubers
exactly now it's like bro you can leave the car here like you can come back and get the car tomorrow
like getting a DUI now is just such an irresponsible thing like what the and like literally call a car to
can pick you up from anywhere.
And you're also in Miami.
You can't even walk out a restaurant without a car asking you do you need a ride.
It's just crazy, man.
But hopefully whoever was hit by, you know, the vehicle is okay.
A ruptured, you said kidney?
I believe that's what it was.
Oh, man.
Yeah, that's crazy.
Is she, so she's facing DUI charges?
Yeah, I'm not sure if, I'm sure there's going to be more reckless.
Hidden run, DRI.
Endangerment.
I'm sure all that shit is, is there.
But, all right, let's get to voicemails.
We have to go back to the old pot in days with headphones on.
Oh, man.
It's been a while since I put the cans on.
Put the cans on.
So we have our first voicemail does not want to be anonymous.
So this is Seth.
What's up?
Big fan of pot.
I always have been.
My name is Seth.
I'm from Raleigh, North Carolina.
Rale.
Yeah, let's get into it.
So, boom, I'm a single dad.
Me and us, BM, separated, whatever.
she, you know, went one way, I went a different way.
I found out she was on drugs.
She ODed in front of my son.
And her mom, thank God, her mom was there, blah, blah, blah, blah.
I put restraints on her as far as far as my son.
And then she got the better for the court, blah, blah, blah, year later.
Boom, she fucking runs into a tree.
Apparently she's on drugs in the car with my son.
So then, yeah, of course, I did not let her see her like that.
You know, she's, you have supervised visits a few hours with her mom on the weekend.
Boom, her mom, she started while her mom and got no, you know, restraints on her.
She's trying to get a nigga to threaten me, da, da, da, da.
I'm not playing like that because I'll have to kill a nigga from my son.
So no, you can't see your child.
Boom, she hasn't seen him like six months.
She only even called his nigga for two months.
She don't even call him or son.
So anyways, boom, I'm trying to get her to be able to see him.
I just don't want my son to have to go to a facility being watched and her.
You know what I'm saying?
It's weird.
But also, I don't want to want my son?
my son to be in public
with a stranger. You know what I'm saying?
And it's just like, because I told her
just don't want to facilitate that shit because you'll have me
ended up killing the niggas. You know what I'm saying?
It's just not. So I'm in a rocking hard place.
I'm just an entrepreneur trying to do right,
take her son every day. You know what I'm
saying? I'm different. You know, she
went one way. I went a different way. Please help me.
Well, I mean, I'll start
with. That's a very unfortunate situation.
That's very fucked up. Yeah.
But this is where
the court system, I think,
would be in his
a man's favor for once.
And if it does take
those supervised visits, in the beginning,
I think it's super necessary.
Even when she's getting clean,
she's still running into trees on drugs.
You know, when you start talking about
parents having an addiction problem
and, you know,
this is a unique situation because the father,
you know, a lot of times we see it,
it's the dad that has an issue.
But growing up and in my own family,
I know that a lot of the times the moms have
addictions as well
it's just like you said it's probably
gonna have to go to the courts to let the courts handle that
it's tough because he does sound like the type
of dad that I don't want to keep my child
from his mom I want him to have
relationship with his mother but
it's I don't think it's safe
I definitely don't want him around any
of the guys yeah that she's
dealing with
so yeah man it sounds like you're going to
literally have to take this
to the courts and and play this thing
about the books because it's a
very unfortunate situation.
But at the same time, the kid is the priority, the safety of the child, no matter what you
feel toward your baby mother and things like that, that's to the back burner.
The child has to be safe and you want it to be a type of environment where it's healthy,
it's loving.
The kid doesn't feel any remnants of any drug addictions and any problems or issues that you
and your child's mother may have.
So, yeah, you got to play this one by the book.
Don't, you can't fuck around with this one.
And the court system will force her to choose her kid or drugs.
Because they're going to have to pass a drug test to even get out of supervised visits or anything like that.
So, yeah.
I know it's fucked up because now you've got to think your son is going to have to go to the court and sit with somebody there.
Like, it's a really weird experience to put a kid through.
But I can't think of another option outside of that.
Keep the kid safe.
Whatever you got to do to keep that child safe, you know, play about a book.
Do things the right way.
Cool.
All right.
Let's get to the next one.
Get the cans back on.
Cans loaded.
Turn me up in my headphones.
Yo, it was good, Josh.
Your boy, Young and Miyagi.
One of the admins of the Aurora Mall group page on Facebook.
Shout-up, Baby, D.
You already know.
We was having a discussion about Jay-Z and the button-up jeans era,
and somebody said that he stole that swag from Tim Duncan.
Tim Duncan's the pioneer.
Jay Z saw it and then the rest is history.
Maul, I know you from that era and you was actually there.
So we want to know, is that true?
Did Jay Z really get the swag from Tim Duncan?
You already know, shout to everybody.
Love is love.
Saying that Jay stole Tim Duncan's swag.
Tim Duncan being one of the worst dressed basketball players of all time ever.
Is insane.
But he kind of has a point, no?
I would have to
Because for a while
Tim Duncan was giving us
T-shirt, sandals and jeans shorts
Jay never gave us that
Yeah he did when
When Cam called him out
He didn't have jeans shorts on
King of New York and chocolate
He had flip
But he was on the beach
So that's that's fair
But I think
I think Tim might have got that from Jay
Or
I think that was around the time
Where the NBA
Stressed that dress code
And you had to wear a collar shirt
Because I remember
They did that after a while
It was like
Because of Iverson.
Well, because of Iverson for sure.
But they had got a little lax at the point.
But then it was like, all right, collar shirt.
Whether it's a polo.
It doesn't have to be the full button-up long-sleeve.
It could be a nice polo shirt with some jeans.
So I think that was around the time.
That was around 2005, 2006.
Did they all get it from Jordan, though?
Jordan wore full suits.
You never seen Michael Jordan show up to the game with jeans on.
No, but we saw photos of him with the worst oversized button-up shirts
and the baggy of fucking jean.
That's what he's wearing currently in 2024.
Yeah, yeah, he's still baggy.
But he, I feel like he was wearing that shit before Tim and Jay.
Yeah, but we never see.
It looked even crazier.
Yeah, but I never, I can't remember seeing Mike in the 90s with jeans and a button up.
I can't remember that.
But I do think that the dress code and Tim Duncan wearing a button up shirt,
I think, I think, I think, I think Jay might have been doing it before the NBA made of the thing.
I think so
Was that
When did the S. Dot Carter's come out?
Oh, three?
Yeah, so it might have been right around
Something like that
Might have been right around that time
He thought that would lay better with the S. Carter's?
I mean, I don't know, man.
Back then it was just nasty decisions
was being made when you look at the fashion
back in early 2000s.
Was that like an announcement amongst the crew?
Like we're not wearing throwbacks anymore?
That was just, Jay said it.
one day and it was like okay
that's what you're on cool but
I think I may have done that
maybe once at a party
like it was like a girl was having like a Sweet 16 or
something and I think I threw on a
button with some jeans and I was
just like looking back I was like this is the nastiest
outfit choice probably
ever oh I mean we were
Usher took it to another level he had to blazer
yeah that was a crazy
with the jeans and the button up yeah he tried to take
like the Neo Soul look and make it pop
Yeah, he was definitely like we were talking about the Eric Robbins special
Like usher tried to make that cool for pop stars
Yeah
And then Ryan Leslie took it and I think it was over after that
Yeah
But saying that Tim Duncan inspired Jay's like fashion is fucking hilarious
We were heavy on the button up shit
Like we really just listened to whatever Jay was saying
It was a time where he was probably the most influential
When it came to fashion as far as hip up for sure
It was just fucked up to do to the kids, like, how expensive throwbacks were.
And it was like, we're not doing that no more.
Yeah, I got a whole closet full.
I got tags still on them.
Like, you're not doing these no more?
Throw these out?
Players, I don't even know.
It was just, it was just a throwback Nuggets jersey.
I don't know who the fuck this is.
The early 2000s fashion was like, looking, it was nasty, man.
Nasty.
Probably the worst.
Outside of like that 09 rock star era, that was by far the worst.
Oh, nine, that was Ed Hardy.
Yeah, that to me.
Probably the worst era ever.
Once we tried to, like, tighten up everything, it was bad.
A lot of bright colors, a lot of nasty, nasty times.
A lot of G-Shops.
What is it, Christian Ordege?
Yes.
That was, you looked like, you looked like you had a bunch of Christian T-Share.
I couldn't afford that shit.
Oh, okay.
Yeah, you was a little too young back there.
Also, I never wore Ed Hardy.
I would have.
I just didn't.
You know, I couldn't.
Devon Dutch has us trying to make a comeback.
I think they did.
I see some girls online winning.
Like, they look good with the Von Dutch Trucker.
Yeah, trucker hats in general, I feel like kind of.
made a comeback. Yeah, no for sure. It's crazy that. All right, so it's Tim Duncan for that.
Do we give Ashton Coucher all the credit for the Von Dutch era?
I like to go to my guys at, you know, I'm a Duck Dynasty watching, man. They had Truck
of Hats off. You know, I'll be on my Duck Dynasty binge mode sometimes and they got a plethora
of truck of hats that they wear down in the Deep South. Yeah, because I feel like Punk to really
put those hats on the, on the mess. It was one season of Punk, and then in the summer I went to the
Jersey Shore and they were on every shelf.
Yeah.
That shit was every one hundred percent.
Like you could, you know, the games at the Jersey Shore?
Yeah.
You could like win.
A bond Dutch hat.
Like it used to be like scooters and bikes and paint all guns.
Yeah, no, you wear a Von Dutch truck hat here tonight.
That would have been fun to talk to Vinny about just that fashion era.
Yeah.
Because that was, again, like, 09.
Mm-hmm.
It didn't matter.
The Italian whites, regular whites, black people all dressed.
You ever went outside, like, on a regular day and just had like a wristband on?
your arm up for a couple years why i used to wear headbands and i wasn't sweating for no after
athletic reason whatsoever it was some nasty times man i i hated going to church but when iverson
wore those what would jesus do things i was asking my mom and she was like why do you want that
yeah i was like oh no because you know i think it'd be good at church to wear that lion like
iverson has and then you know i match it with a rubber band you have to
Naturally.
Pink rubber bands on your wrist at church.
Where are you going?
Yo, I had a leg sleeve at one point.
Like just walking around?
Yeah, like if I were, if I was pairing it with like basketball shorts, yeah, that was a, that was a time.
I never wore legs sleeves.
Like Angel Reese.
I'm the Tim Duncan of Angel Reese.
You inspired Angel Reese?
That's your walking around with a leg sleeve.
You know what was the sickest thing?
And I did it for a little bit.
But I could not play basketball.
When they had the sweat finger things, that was the sickest trend ever.
Like, cool, wrist, whatever.
Yeah.
Why were people putting wristbands on their fingers?
Iverson had, was famous for that, but that was a, Reggie Miller, he used to tape his fingers.
Tape is one thing, but the actual, like, headband and wristband cloth.
How do you shoot with that on?
Yeah, I didn't understand how you dribble with that, like, wristband on your fingers.
But Reggie Miller did it to tape as.
his fingers so that his follow doing his form on his shot was like consistent all the time.
It is interesting that he brought up Tim Duncan, even though that was funny.
He does raise a point, though, with basketball used to, like, really set trends with fashion.
I don't think that happens anymore.
Like, when was the last time a basketball player really set a fashion trend?
The last time a basketball player set a fashion, that's a great question.
It's different now, man, because we get so many, we get to look at so many different people
in so many different spaces with social media and things like that.
So the inspiration comes from so many different places before.
You know, you looked at the athletes for inspiration.
But now you can look at just a local guy in California that's just fashion.
It will be like, I like the way he put that together or somebody from New York.
Like, you don't have to look at just the public figures anymore.
You can look at random people in different cities that just know how to put outfits together.
And I mean, even, you know, Iverson was obviously getting his fashion from the,
culture. Like it wasn't, he wasn't just coming up with all of that. Yeah. But I think even on the court,
he was setting fashion trends. Like my dumbass wearing what would Jesus do? Yeah. Stupid headbands.
I have not seen a basketball player do that. And maybe, maybe Bron is going to sound like a weird take.
Ron with doing the shorter shorts. And that wasn't even a brawn thing. I don't think Braun was the
first person to do the shorter short. He was the definitely the first. Because if you look at
Brown when he came in the league, he had very bad shorts.
Because he came in, in 03 when that was the thing.
But he was the first one to get like a tailored uniform.
And then I saw a lot of, even like, college teams starting to like get shorts that like really, really fit.
I don't know if it was Braun, though.
I think, I'm going to be honest.
I might give that the tail uniform.
I might go to the Warriors.
I think Steph and Clay were, because it was one time they wore the end.
NBA was like flirting with the shirt tops.
It kind of like it was like the shirt, like the top and the shorts.
It looked like it was connected.
Yeah.
I was like, these niggas is wearing leotards now.
Yeah, that was weird.
But I think that players just adopted went back to the shorter shorts after that.
I think after the uniform started, they started tweaking the uniforms in NBA.
I think players started going back to the shorter shorts.
It's funny how things is, everything is on a cycle because you look at footage from guys in the six.
in the 70s and the 80s and how short their uniforms were.
And then you go to the, you know,
Michael Jordan was actually one of the first to bring in the baggy shorts
into the NBA because he wore his North Carolina shorts underneath
his Bulls shorts.
And then the fat by Michigan, Michigan, obviously Chris Weber, Jalen Rose,
and then what they did for the coach as far as just style on the court.
That translated into the NBA as well.
I can't see it going back to baggy with sports
just because that's stupid to me
I see baggy clothes obviously coming back in fashion
and like when the players even walk into the arena
most of the younger players are back on the baggy shit
but to play in baggy shorts to me
like Iverson looked super cool
but his crossover could have been even crazy
yeah yeah like it's just too much fabric
like when he stepped over Tyrone Lou
what was so funny about that was like his shorts
disgraced his face.
Wipe the sweat off of it?
Like, how
how did you play in this?
Yeah, let me wipe this sweat off your face while I step
over you.
I just don't know how people, like,
I played pickup in baggy shit,
but it was awful pickup basketball.
It's just not a good idea.
At that level, how the fuck were you doing that?
It's just not a good idea.
Like, that was always stupid.
But I understand where the influence came from.
But yeah, I don't think that the NBA,
I can't see players going back to baggy shorts.
I think that it's just more comfortable to have shorter shorts on.
Yeah.
When you're talking about just the mobility of running around.
Obviously, you know, plays no matter what if they had back shows, they were still great.
But I just think aesthetically, I think athletes would rather have more leg exposed
than to have shorts down to the underneath their knee.
Do we think maybe Cam Newton was the last athlete to start a fashion trend?
I haven't seen that take off.
I haven't seen anybody dressed like Cam Newton.
I didn't see anybody kind of pick up on his his fashion, his fashion tips.
But, you know, I respect Kim because it's like, listen, man, he wants to be his self.
He's obviously in that space now where you know him for his style and what he's wearing.
But I think that no matter what, if you're, you have to be great at whatever you're doing to have that influence transfer over from what you're wearing.
Yeah.
Because if you're just an okay subpar player, nobody ain't dressing like you.
Yeah, that was even when I was younger, like, you never wore 23 unless you were like the best player on your team.
That was set aside for that.
Yeah, it's reserved for a select few.
I had a few coaches when I was like in middle school that did not let anyone wear headbands because they just weren't, you're not good enough.
Yeah.
Like to wear that wrist shit.
I know as fast you're not that good.
You can't be trash and sit on the bench and wear that stuff.
Yeah, I remember one time I was playing in the league and I went, you know,
know they bring the uniforms out.
I'm looking for 23.
I went there when 23, coach was like, here's, you're number 14.
I was like, fuck it, I'll take it.
I'll give me the 14.
It is what it is.
My freshman year, freshman football, one kid had the visor joint, and my coach made them take
it off and said, you only play special teams, what you need a tent for.
Because that is crazy to put a, like, over the, like.
helmet like you think you Ricky Williams or something like what do you think the sun will not be in
your eye you won't even be out there that long I promise you're in for one down and get out yeah
yeah I always always wanted to do the visor I just didn't think I was cool enough it was a funny story
my my boy they uh they was playing aAU out in uh in Vegas uh like back in like late 90s early
2000s and my home boy at the time out in L.A he was one of the best players in the city
uh his name was Tony Blan shout out to my
Mare T. Bland. He used to wear, he was the first one to wear the soccer socks
in basketball. But he was the best player in the state of California at the time. You know what
I'm saying? So it was like he could wear what he want. So my boys that was from out here in New
York, you know, they went to Vegas for AAU and, you know, they all see Tony Bland in the gym
with the high socks. So shout out to my boy, Andre Barrett. He said, yo, man, we all went to
the store. He was like, we all bought the high socks. We like, you. Like, you know,
you want to wear the high socks like, yo, that shit looked cool.
So mind you, they have the warm-ups on the pants on, on the lay-up line before the game.
So the coach don't know that they all got on high socks.
He said, yo, they took the warm-ups off and they got ready to go on the court and the coach seen the socks.
Subbed everybody out.
Take them shit off.
Mind you, these are some of the best high school players in the city.
Coach didn't give a shit like, yo, we're not, what are you doing?
But it's just the influence that Tony had with the high socks to make cats from New York because they always just see him.
They heard about him like, yo, the kid from L.A., the kid in California just winning the high socks.
So Dre said they all went and bought the high socks.
Coach was like, yo, sub out.
Yeah, when I was in high school was when Reggie Bush was the biggest thing ever.
Oh, man.
And he used to do the double sock up to the pad but then also had another pair of socks that was a different color.
Yeah.
We all did that shit, not really.
realizing that we didn't have the type of cleats that he had.
So now you got...
We forget that part.
Like, not only did you not have the cleats.
You didn't have the game that Reggie Bush had.
So now we got two, because, you know, football socks are thick.
Yeah.
We got two pairs of socks on and go out and try to play with some cheap-ass fucking cleats.
My feet never hurt so much after that.
We're like, yeah, we can't.
Can't do the Reggie Bush no more.
Just doing dumb shit.
Well, thank you to Detroit.
Yes.
For showing love. We had a great time in Michigan.
Shout to everybody that came out.
Chicago, thank you for the love.
Again, amazing show.
Salute to everybody that came out.
We had people driving from St. Louis, different parts of Ohio.
It was just a lot of love in the room.
People from Jersey.
People from Jersey that came out.
Somebody flew in from Long Beach, California.
Shout out to him.
But yeah, man, London is up next.
Yeah.
We will be in London in September, September 18.
I believe,
Benner.
September 18th,
we are in London.
October 17th,
we are in Toronto.
November 22nd,
we are in Atlanta,
December 13th and 14th.
We will be back home
in New York City,
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I will also be in Vegas
this coming weekend.
No.
Next weekend.
September.
That's why you saved
your energy
on the Chicago trip.
So you got rollover energy.
You had to parlay
your energy for Vegas.
First of all,
I'm going to Vegas.
I know why you're going to Vegas.
To talk about
my album with Sohouse. There you go.
And, you know, I might
extend my trip. You never know.
Who's counting? It's week one
football. You know,
Vegas can be buzzing. The Raiders.
Yeah, maybe I'll go by the stadium.
Yeah. You know, super. Some family fun.
500 on black. I get it.
I don't think there's hookers
with braces in Vegas.
They might be hookers with something else in Vegas.
Not braces, though. It's probably curable, right?
Yeah. They do need their
medical card, though. I think work.
They do.
That's why it's legal in Vegas, right?
Well, it's not technically legal, but it's just frown upon it.
Yeah, yeah. Like, yo, just do it on certain laws.
Yeah, I know what you're doing.
Go over there with that shit.
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All right, bro, we're on our way back to New York.
Yes, I have to make this flight.
All right, well, let's get the fuck out of here.
We appreciate y'all.
We love y'all.
Until next time, be safe.
Be blessed.
I'm that nigga.
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Peace.
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A win is a win.
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