New Rory & MAL - Episode 304 | Give Rory His Flowers

Episode Date: September 20, 2024

We're still in London going crazy! JK, actually going very calmly, very demure. Rory & Mal went to a festival together for some rap fan bonding, and continue to remind the listeners just how washed they are (01:30). Donald Trump almost got hit... again (20:30). Rory is requesting his flowers for giving Drake the idea of buying shares of Reasonable Doubt (25:25). Will this finally get Jay back in the booth? Universal Music Group is partnering with Meta - what does this mean for the music landscape (40:09)? The legendary actor James Earl Jones has passed, so the guys give condolences and name their favorite work (54:09). Tyla is under heavy scrutiny and the boys don't understand why, and they give some credit to Nicki for her talent in trolling (58:09). We have voicemails! The first one is from a familiar woman looking for advice about whether to end a situationship or not (1:04:00). The second is from a guy who isn't aware of the fact that he's getting played yet. Don't worry, we're sure to tell him (1:11:31). Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoicesSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

This is an I-Heart podcast. Guaranteed Human. And we are still live from London. Live in the UK. Feel like we've moved here by this point. We might as well move here, right? This is our new studio, apparently. This is, man.

I think they're sick of us. I think they're sick of us. Shout out to our God, Codd, man. For welcoming us while we're here. How you feeling? I'm good, man. Real good, man. Feel good.

The weather's been good, sunny outside. You know what I mean? Like, feeling good. You've been moving and shaking a bit. Not really. I mean, just walking around a little bit. Just getting your steps in. Restaurants, you know.

A lot of vegan restaurants. Yeah, no, the options are beautiful, man. I'm not, I can't complain. My homeboy hit me last night. It was like, yo, what you eat? No, it was like, you're eating. There's vegan options everywhere in London. Like, I'm eating good right now.

You was with gigs at the Burberry show last night going crazy. I wish. No, I didn't go out. I went to, came back to the room. Well, I ate before I got back to the room. And then that was it. I was in the room for the rest of the night. Trying to catch up on sleep, man.

Like, it's still. It's tough. That time. It's time different. It's like... Five hours is no joke. I thought I had it figured out at the first two nights

and I'm just like, nah, around 8, 9 o'clock, it's like, yo, I'm tired. I've been on one night then off the next. Yeah. I just keep skipping. Like, first night,

got a bunch of sleep. Next night you didn't sleep at all. Yeah, before that, got like 14 hours. Last night, I got like three hours asleep. There's no catching a one's sleep. So, you know...

What it is, what it is, man, we're here. You, uh, I got you to festival a little bit while you were out here. Oh, my God. It takes a different time. zone in a different country.

I don't do that. To get you to festival. No, we festivaled in America. Yeah, but we were getting paid. That's different. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You've never been a festival with me for free. If it's a bag attached to free.

Yeah, my bad. You're right about that. If it's a bag attached to it, I'm near. We weren't at Made in America for the love. No, yeah, it wasn't the sport. We weren't have roots for the love. No, you're right. You're right about that.

You're right about that. But yeah, no, we went to the jazz cafe festival. Which was great. At Bergus Park. The other day, man, shout out to anybody at the touch stage, Earl sweatshirt, Rap City, Alchemist, Rock, Marciano.

It was a dope setup, man. Dope line up. Mike, who I fuck with, I think he's a Brooklyn rapper. I've always thought he's from Brooklyn. Mike that fucks what Earl. He came out to, I really fuck with Mike.

Shout out to Knowledge of Pirate that came out with Rock, man. If you're not in tune with Knowledge the Pirate, man, if you were, you know, one of them hip-hop heads, I just appreciate bars and, you know, that real hip-hop feel. tap in with Knowledge the Pirate, man.

He stole his show. I'm not going to lie. I only wanted to go because I didn't see, never saw Rap Live, Rhapsody, and I never saw Rock live either. So I was like when we heard about the festival, I was like, damn, you, I definitely want to see that. So I know I'm a nerd.

I think I've seen both of them like 10 times. Yeah, no, I never seen them live. And then when Rock came out, obviously I was in tune with Knowledge of Pirate already, but to see him what he did on that stage live. I had never seen. Knowledge live before. Obviously, familiar because he's on so many rock projects,

but it just showed the difference. I don't even want to do like ageism here. But when you see somebody that's like of the cloth and been around for a while, the performance is different. Just the way he... No vocals on the track. It's just different when those type of rappers show up.

Like, knowledge is nice. Don't get me wrong. Seeing him perform, it gave me a whole new respect. Yeah, he did his thing. Rock did his thing too. The hit set was incredible. But yeah, the festival was dope, man. We had a good time.

The weather held up. It started drizzling a little bit and toward the, you know, the end of the show. And that's when we got out of there. But it was a dope, dope event. It was good to get out in London and experience a festival out here. I was a little nervous in the beginning because we were to the side and, you know, we've made jokes about me. And in festivals as far as getting on my Karen, do you know who the fuck my father is? Yeah, you didn't have no lambnets.

Type shit. You know you're a lamb to lambd-limate. Yeah. Can't put no sticker on my shirt. Like, yeah, if you ain't got no lambnets, you upset. I'm not a civilian. comes to festivals. It's the only time I'm...

They were treating us like, we ain't, you know what I'm saying? We didn't make our bones out here. You know how long I've been festivaling? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't even do this with y'all. Yeah, yeah. Literally, I should be able to park backstage.

That's the fact. I don't even have a car. Right, but just put a spot there for me. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Even if I don't have a car. Yeah. So we get there. I'm like, I'm cool on the side over here.

Yeah. But I get nervous sometimes with you of how long... Because we're similar but different in the sense that if we're in an environment, we don't particularly care to be in. We'll leave pretty fucking quickly. Yeah. But we came as a crew.

So I just, you know, had that nervous, like, damn, I hope malls doing. We ride together. We die together, man. That's how we do it. I wasn't going to leave without you. Then I looked over and I saw you like, probably the biggest blunt I've ever seen you smoke. And I was like, oh, okay. Yeah, once I'm outside and we got an area and I can see the stage and I can hear the music.

Yeah. And I can smoke. Oh, I can stay here. I can stand here all night. I was no problem after that. It was, but it was cool to kind of like, you know, just be in the mix of the people too at the same time. A lot of people came up, kicked with us.

It was real cool. Which we didn't talk about after the show. I meant to tell you in the Uber back. So when Rock's people asked us to come on stage in the middle of his set, when they were like, yo, come to side stage just enjoying the show. Yeah. And when they were like, yo, come on stage, everything in me wanted to be like, bro,

I'm not the on stage swag that y'all want. I'm not going to make Rock look cool. Like, I don't know what to do. Yeah. Because it wasn't like one of those rap stages where there's like 50 guys on stage. Yeah, yeah. It was like three guys. They're like, yo, y'all come up.

I'm like, I don't, I'm not going to help with the aesthetic. I'm going to look. I might actually ruin this. I'm going to look uncomfortable behind rock. Just bopped my head. Like, I'll put my hand up. Yeah. But it's going to look weird.

That white arm in the air. So the whole time I'm sitting there knowing no one's looking at us, but feeling like everyone is staring at me probably thinking this is the most awkward human being ever and why is he on stage? Yeah. No, but it's how I felt. But then once you looked out in the crowd, you were home. That is true. Yeah, it was a lot of Rory's in the crowd. That's a fact.

I wish, because I do have that rule of like, I don't like to post strangers because I think that's fucked up. I'll do it on my close friends. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I took a video of young me in the front row, full ahead of red hair. Oh, I got a video two of them, yeah. And the young Sean Dickerson was right next to him.

Yeah, yeah. Just rapping everything. That was like a parallel universe right there. 100%. We were looking at a parallel universe of you and Sean. And I saw that young kid rapping everywhere to rock Marciano. I was like, oh, this was. Fire.

This was me in 2002 at a jizzar show. Yeah, absolutely. There is hope for the youth. Absolutely, man. It's all a cycle. All of it is just on repeat, man. It was dope to see a lot of the young, you know, white faces of hip-hop in the audience. And that kid looks so young and innocent.

And I was like, oh, he has. so much life ahead of him. I hope he doesn't get corrupted. And then maybe five to ten minutes later, I saw him light up with look like a Newport 100. And I said, never mind. He's gone. It's no hope. But that kid is funny because I was like, oh, he's so nice. Never mind. You're a dirtbag just like I was. But it's funny because that kid may turn out to be one of like the dope cool A&R executives, like, managers. Like he might be that because he was, he like he knew the words. He knew all the ad libs. He was really there for the show. it's just good to see like younger

kids and younger people at hip hop show like real hip hop show like if you had a rap city you front stage to see rap city and alchemist and rock Marciano like if you front stage for that

and you know the words you're a hip hop head I was happy that you finally got to witness someone calling me mall that was hilarious and then doubled down I was like this mall too no no I'm a huge fan

like you realize that just said we're both mall right yeah you was like no my name is Jamal like nice to meet you I was like I'm looking at the dude like you think his name is Jamal, like honestly. But he doubled down. Like, of course I know that. I'm a huge fan.

Come on. It's me. Of course I know y'all. I'll support y'all. Not that I needed a reminder, but it's always fun to get a reminder that Alchemist might be top three greatest producers that's ever lived. I don't think it's even a debate at this point. And I mean, he was a DJ first. So I love that producers are getting like festival sets, but some of those producers aren't like DJs to their core.

So they just play their hits. Alchemists, we know, started. as a DJ first. Yeah. So how he puts his records together is way better than I think most producer DJs. He,

like, what didn't he produce? Bro, he went through his set. I thought I knew his whole cat. I was like, yo, he did this record, too? Two of the one of the joints, the Jada kids joints he played. I forgot he did that. I forgot he did that.

I forgot he did one of the locks joints he played. And it was another one when I was like, yo, how did that? Like his, his catalog might be, it might be crazy. And like I already know Alchemist is one of those minds and brains and music and hip hop that is like, you know, special, one of the special ones. But like, you know, him playing his set of all the joints he produced is like, it takes

you through this time machine where you just like, I forgot how many joints he did. And I didn't forget that he did to keep it thoroughbeat for Prodigy, but I forgot how that song rings off. Like the moment that dropped, the whole crowd lost their fucking mind. Like similar to we going to make it Of how much keep it thorough Even in London Go's nice

Pete forgot he did shook ones He didn't do shook ones He didn't Nah that was havoc Ow, Al wasn't even around at that point I mean Al is the third member of Mobb Deep But nah he wasn't around there My oldest time I thought Al did that

I don't think Al came around to Murder Music maybe Okay What year was that? 99 maybe 98 Okay I think the realist With Cool G Rouse

I could be wrong. It was the first one that they did. And then after that, Prodigy just adopted Alchemists and the rest of his history. But no, that was... I did do it. I did know that.

I did know he did Shook Wins. I was thinking, it wasn't that. Which record was that piece when he played and you was like, damn, I didn't even know he did that. It wasn't sure. It was one of the early, early joint stuff.

And that's another thing, though. And like, we were nerding out. Maybe I was catching contact high. But when Shook Ones came on... Oh, my God. That's just certain songs I've heard a million times that will never get old. And to think that they were children.

Yeah. They were like real teenagers. Yeah. They were like 16, 17. Incredible. And Havick was micing up his stove in the projects and then created that masterpiece. Like, insane. I know it sounds like nerdy shit, but that stuff still blows my mind.

Like, how were you 17 and decided, let me do this? And then not only that, when you see, how do you even think that way in 17? When you look around at the crowd of people in an entire different country, that have an accent and they know it word for word. Came out in 1995, 1994. And these are young cats at the festival. Like, it's just dope to watch hip hop just transcend, you know, American culture and really just touched the world and things.

Al is on doing a whole European run. A rock is on a European run. Benny was out here. The day we landed, he's on a run out. So it's just dope to see cats from back home moving around different parts. of the world and hip hop being embraced. And I mean, even, I'm not just saying this because we're in London, but Europe, like, really appreciates hip hop.

Me and I were talking backstage. You're like, I'm old. I don't even, like, really like doing the road. But when it comes to Europe, like, I know we're going to have so much fun. Yeah. Because these fans give a fuck about everything that we're playing. Like, that shit is in their veins. They still give a fuck.

Yeah. So, it's just different. I'm glad my first time going to a festival in London. Yeah, mine's too. I mean, you know that. We've been there together for the last. three years, so yeah. I know you didn't like it, but the 30-second little snippet he played to Meet the Grams

did get a crazy fucking response. I saw your face. I know you weren't really into it. But the crowd did go a little fucking crazy when those first, like, four chords hit. Yeah. Even me, I kind of went like, hmm. You remember when, you remember when Norrie was telling the story of how, you know, when Kiss was telling the story of how Norrie, uh,

took his dat back from a guy he thought was with kiss and he found out now he wasn't with kiss and he looked at him and took the dat back i looked at owl and took my dat back once meet the grams came when i was like yo was like yo take that back what was actually dope about that though was he didn't play any of the lyrics like he just let the beat play for like 15 seconds and everyone went nuts and then switched out of it but yeah that that beat is like oddly surgical it's like creepy as fuck yeah i didn't think it would go off at a festival like that for Everyone that thinks Meet the Grams is boring and all that, that shit went up like we're going to make it at a festival.

I mean, obviously the way Al set it up, played the sample, original and all that, like... That's what it was. He used the same sample for another record. You guys were telling me that. Yeah, I did not know Meet the Grams and Keep It Thoreau had the same sample. Yeah. Didn't Al do something? He broke that down?

He did keep it thorough and then went back into the sample. It went sample, keep it thorough, back to the sample, then to meet the grams and my nerdy hip-hop brain exploded. I was like, it's the same sample? Tapping people I didn't even know. Like, yo, did you know that?

Yeah, that was dope though. That was dope. I love what like DJs and producers like do that. Like play the sample, the original record and get into it. Like there's a lot of videos online with Just Blaze doing that, a few other dudes.

Like, that shit is always dope. Like, always here. Because it's kind of like, we got to pay homage to the original to the sample. Of course. You got to. And I think that just shows like the genius.

of the producer like that's what you took from that sample damn i didn't even realize right you didn't just take a sample and put drums on it and then paid the fee right like i can't believe you found that part and that's what's in the song at this point that's such a beautiful process like all of these DJ producers that like digging crates and find these records and find that break that sample like that's such a i mean obviously that's the the foundation of hip hop but it's just so dope to see guys like really that really do that that really digging crates and shit like that and we were talking to during the set because Al did like two verses I want to say

I was like yo Al rap's a lot better than some of our favorite Big bowl of macaroni It's that action influence Yeah yeah 100% Al can rap man I mean listen and when you around that much hip hop And you you hear that many bars for all those years It's only I mean like come on bro you got to pick up on some of that shit and just

Just talk shit like Al he just be he's just a shit talker Get a shit off and that's it But I could and this is me speculating. I have no idea, nor spoke to Hit Boy or Alchemist about this. I think Hit Boy is a great rapper, but he started as a rapper, then was a producer. He's a rapper to his core. Al, producer

first. Yeah. I feel like Al maybe had Hit Boy go back and rewrite some verses with their project. The joints they did together? Yeah. I think he's like, damn, I didn't know you could be like really rap. Yeah, yeah. Now, Al go talk his shit. He definitely would get his shit off. But yeah, it was fun. Other than that, it's been kind of quiet this

London trip. Yeah, I mean, the weather has been great. It's been sunny. I know. We was whiling out in the rain the last two times. Everybody has texting me like, yo, is it gloomy? I'm like, no, not really. Like, the sun has been out pretty much every day. Like, the weather's been really nice.

I can't complain. Last time we would say it was a little rainy, a little gloomy, but, you know, now this time around, the sun has definitely been out. Since we really haven't done anything outside of the festival, should we try to while out tonight or while out after the show? I feel like I need one London night. I've just been a fucking... But what is your wild out look like, though? You're a dad now. That's what I'm saying.

What does your wild outlook like now? Me and Benner went and got two steaks and split them. Why would you split two steaks when you could just each have your own one? Because there was the iron steak and then the waggoo. Oh, yeah, got two different type of steaks. And then we cut it up and split. We was wilding. That's wild.

Yeah, yeah. That's two different type of stakes in one seat and three sides. We got garlic mash, mac and cheese and the cream spinach. We was-toll it. The Tollet brothers The Splat, y'all were the Splash Brothers It hasn't hit yet I think I might need to sit down

I don't think I go wild out tonight Because it's gonna eventually catch up to me You and better gonna be the Splash Brothers tonight For sure Which is scary Because the worst toilet paper on Atlanta fucking earth in this country Your assholes gonna be fucking burn it

Well yeah I don't really know How to while out Because the first time we were here We did the strip club thing Which was awful But it was a fun experience I still haven't done the box but I don't know if I have the energy for that.

That just, yeah, that's a, and that's a whole different type of vibe. Like, it's a, you know, we're all securing ourselves. But that's a different, you got to be in a different kind of, kind of zone to just go to the box. Because you don't know what's going to come on stage. You know what I'm saying? I mean, I think that's the allure of the whole thing. No, it is. It's definitely, it's definitely part of the whole thing.

But you got to kind of be in that zone. I don't think you're in that zone. And there was fashion week stuff, but everything I got invited to, I was like, I feel like I'm going to get there. and be like, yeah, I should have stayed in the hotel. Yeah. Should have got another steak with Benner. You should have with a third one. I was pushing it last night.

I even text you like, yeah, what's up? You want to do something? No, I was going to definitely try to get out. I hit gigs in a suspect. Shout to my guy's suspect. I hit them. They was moving around a little bit, but it was like fast-year-week stuff. You know, you got to have an invite.

And then suspect was like, nah, we mobbing. Like, fuck it, we're just pulling up. I'm like, I don't know if that's the type of energy up on. But like, when you get there, let me know what it's looking like. And once it got to like one in the morning, I was just like, bro, I'm tired. Like, I just went to sleep. Yeah, and I missed my window. That's why I text you.

Like, fuck it. I'm going to be up. Yeah, you text me at like 10 o'clock. And then I think I hit you again at like one. Yeah. What's up? It was over at that point. I'm watching first 48.

I'm chilling, man. I wasn't going nowhere. No, no ting's out here? Nah, man. Literally, I've just been, whatever we did together once we leave, I may get some food. And I'm right back at the hotel, bro. I don't know we're washed because the last two trips. Yeah.

We had them around us. I mean, you know, sometimes. We looked iller than we really were. Yeah. I don't understand why this pretty chick wants to hang on us either, but and she's cool? Yeah, like, oh, we won. Yeah, nah, just been chilling, though.

It's been a good time, though. I've had a good time, but there's definitely been a lot of nights where I'm literally just in the bed watching TV, man, I'm chilling. I might try to do the Leon Bridges show tonight. Shout out the Leon Bridges, yeah. We were talking about that he's performing at the actual, the first venue we performed that out here. Yeah, Earth, one of my favorite.

favorite venues I think we've ever done I would like to catch that but then it's a conflict because we got tickets to the football game tonight which I mean I think you guys We want to experience our first soccer game I'm definitely going to go to the Leon shit over the soccer game

but I think you guys should go and I think Pete can you get as much footage of mall at that as possible I think y'all should do that instead of the Leon's soccer game yeah yeah I'm thinking about it man I wanted to experience I didn't even know it did because you know

us arrogant Americans, I thought we can just buy tickets to the Tottenham Arsenal game. And my home girl, she was like, you got to sacrifice a baby to get them? Yeah, she was like,

did somebody leave y'all passes them? Because you can't just, I said, oh, you can't. Not even on stuff. I said, yeah, you can't just like, go on line them. She was like, no. She was like, you have to,

like, it has to be a raffle or like a season, you're a season ticket holder. Okay, so how did you guys end up? Do you guys have tickets? Yeah, well, for this game, it's not, this is not, this is not Premier League, right?

Peas. So this is not a Premier League game tonight This is like Who cares? I mean it's soccer in London Yeah I just want to experience a game in London So I'm thinking about doing that tonight It's like going to the rucker like

Who's ever playing basketball just I just want to see it See what it looks like Yeah But I mean I don't know I'll go be a nerd And ask Leon are those major seven chords That you're playing

Like I'll just do that Yeah Get your shit off man Let me know how it is text me They're going to be in there though No I'm sure I'm not going to do nothing But I'm a look

No you can listen you're a man you can look. I mean, they're going definitely be there. But I would love to see Leon because he's another artist that I fuck with, but I haven't seen him live either. Yeah. A lot kind of happened in the past two days that we've been here. We've been recording nonstop, but more like evergreen stuff, not really in the moment.

But today we can get to the shit. Let's do it. Your man's almost got clipped. Again, once again, they tried to take big Don out, big four-five. They tried to set them up. They tried to spin the block on them. But this time, luckily. he wasn't... Spin the, what,

16th hole? The dog leg? Spin the dog leg? Spin the back nine. They try to spin the back nine on Don. I promise we're going to keep this lighthearted and I'm not going to get on my conspiracy shit. But why is it so easy

to get around a former president with a rifle? Yeah, I feel like we can do a better job at protecting Don at this point. Like, I don't understand why you're not like looking who's in the sand trap. Yeah. But he probably had, you know, he probably had his

Fatigue shit on laying down. You couldn't see him. It's the Secret Service, man. Oh, yeah. I get it. I get it. They found Saddam in a hole. Yeah.

On the other side of the world. Yeah. Now, you're right. But I am happy that he wasn't, he wasn't harmed at all, man. Because, again, you know, no matter what, we laugh and joke about this shit, but no matter what side of politics you're on, you don't want to see, you don't want to see anybody hurt, hurt or tragically killed. So, luckily, you know, it didn't go there. On politics.

whatsoever, but just to the side that someone can get to the president this easily, back to back. It's crazy. Makes me fear. But he didn't get there as a country. Like, what the fuck are we doing? But yeah, but this dude didn't, he wasn't, he didn't get that close, though. Well, I mean, there's been some. He was on the course.

He was on the course. We don't even know if he shot. Am I in the Secret Service shooting him? He was a Trump supporter, vote a Republican. I don't know. I'm from my own mental health. I've stayed away from all the reports. It's amazing how they feel.

find that out so fast. Yeah. Like who he was voting for. It's like, how do y'all know all of this already about this dude? I mean, apparently Elon deleted his Twitter page. Well, he deleted the tweet because he said, Elon deleted his first tweet ever. He was bugging.

Yeah. I believe his tweet was to the extent of and nobody is trying to harm Biden or Kamala. And there was something. These emojis. Yeah, like, you know, kind of like the, that's interesting face. So he obviously received backlash from that as you can, you know, we can we know that that's a little it can be taken like so what are you trying to say like somebody should someone should should try to kill that yeah that's not what he was saying yeah that's how i understand in this climate how people took that um you can't you can't tweet hey how come no one's also trying to kill these people right this is a little it's a little weird but uh he deleted that but i didn't know he deleted his whole deleting your own thoughts off your own platform is pretty funny to me yeah because it's like i own this shit like i own this shit like Like I'll say what the fuck I want to say.

And that's why he brought it because he said he wanted to, that was like freedom of speech. He wanted people to be able to just say, say how, you know, whatever they felt, their thoughts and things like that. So if that's the point of view purchasing such a huge platform and spending the money you spent, why now would you, one, delete that tweet and delete your account? If you had to go out, golf course might be pretty high for me. I don't know. Like if you're going to get a headshot. Nah. On a golf course? I mean, when have you

We've been golfing? It's peaceful. Yeah, but like... Like, I feel like the hectic shit, like the way like RFK went out, like through a kitchen, it's crazy. Too hectic. That's not peaceful for me to get murdered. Yeah. Like, I would love to just be on the back and I'm like, you know what? Can't wait to get the clubhouse, have a beer, relax. If somebody just ended up...

Bong. That's where you want to go out. Yeah. Not me. I can't back you on that one, fan. Not on the golf course. I'm not trying to get killed on no damn golf course. But I'd like to be, like, setting up the shot.

Getting smoked with your follow-through, I know I do like flips, and that would be embarrassing. Yeah. Like, you don't want that image. Like, damn, he can't even hold it down. Yeah, not. Not on no fucking golf course. But, you know, thankfully, Big 4-5 is safe and he's, you know, okay.

Big 4-5. Yeah, that's Big 4-5. Big 9, man. Shout out to Donald Trump. Is he considered 47 if he wins? We spoke about that. I don't know. That's, I mean, I think, I think you, because he would be technically the 47th president,

but really the 46th, I mean, counted because this would be his second term. Talk about a hat collab. Yeah. Is it a name of that, Brian? 47. Yeah, that's fire. Damn. See, they're voting for.

It's already written. And let's just run through. some of the day-to-day news that we missed. I kind of want my flowers. Oh, man, I hate when you do this shit. All right, what now? I got a bouquet another one. What's up, man?

This is going to be my first ask. There's a couple things on here that I want my flowers for, but we'll start here. All right. If you remember about a month ago, you thought I was joking when I thought, you could maybe broker the deal between Rockefeller and Drake. He has the money.

He cares. Maybe Drake should do it. And you laughed and laughed and laughed and said, nah, nah, nah. And then Dane last night got on whatever platform that was and said Drake DM'd him, inquiring about purchasing one-third of reasonable doubt and Rockefeller Inc. So I was even trying to set it up for you, like, you could take your 1% or like your broker fee off that. And we're looking at like 10 million. So do you want to split that 1% with me or like, how do you want to do it?

well he uh i don't know to what extent drake reached out uh to dame about that i don't know how far they got um in talks or how serious it was but that's on brand for drake though you don't think so i mean yeah yeah he got all of ferell's uh jury nigo's jewelry i don't like what he did with the pop's ring um teupacques rhyme book but are you collect are you collecting it as uh a lover of the sport or are you collecting it as a petty way to say fuck y'all I'm finally him

well he he has he's said in his rhymes he used to want to sign a Rockefeller and then he became Jay and then he became Jay and like he said that before he said that before so yeah that that wasn't too surprising to me that he had inquired about

purchasing those shares well we well we don't know but we assume that he bought Farrell's jewelry out of spite and pettiness I don't even though we know know him to be a Neptune's fan at one point.

Yeah. I don't think he bought that the way he bought Push his mic off eBay. Then he said he was going to melt that shit down. Yeah, he did say that. Come on, man. So what is he going to do a reasonable doubt? Melt it down.

He melt the Masters. Okay, so in the event that Drake wins this auction. Yeah. Do you think your brother and Hove, like, are they going to split it up? Does Drake get, can I live? Is he going to finally clear that dead president's freestyle?

Was it Chicago freestyle? Yeah. Put it on DSPs. I don't know. I haven't really... Obviously, I read the headlines and I saw the clip of Dame talking about it, but I don't know.

I don't know if that move would have been for, you know, kind of like a chess move. Or if it literally would have been just Drake wanting to own a piece of art and history that, you know, he probably helped him fall in love with hip hop. And again, he was a fan first, you know, wanted to always sign a Rockefeller. I don't think he's a fan anymore.

Why not? I think Drake, like me, growing up, was very much a rap nerd and love this shit. But I think he has been through the ringer and met his heroes. And I don't think he reveres them the way he did once. Because he has a different view than probably any other human being in the rap world. No, I don't think he still looks at Jay as like, you know. I think, a reason why he does what he does. I think he views him.

completely as a peer now. Okay. But I don't mean that, like, really in a good way. I think he doesn't have the reverence he once did because I think he's seen the behind-the-scenes stuff and probably has a weird view. So I think if he were to buy Rockefeller, it wouldn't be from the, yo, I was a fan my whole life.

I looked up to these guys. I cannot believe I have the money to now purchase this. I'm your peer, and I'm trying to now surpass you. And this is my way of trying to little home of you. Well, I don't think, I don't think trying a little home of you. I don't think that. But I think that, you know, it is, obviously Drake is who he is

and is in a place where he can even entertain the thought of purchasing something like. On IG, just bet $10 million on stake. Yeah. So, I mean, we know that obviously the capital is there and things like that. But I don't, you know, again, I understand, especially now more than ever, Drake is probably in a space where he's looking at, you know, a lot of guys a little kind of sideways because of what he just, well, what he is still going to going through as far as with other artists

and on the music side of things. But I don't think that this in particular is too much of that attached to it. I think this was literally him just wanting to own a piece of history and something that inspired him. But at the same time, kind of like a wink too, like,

you know what I'm saying? But not with malicious intent, though. I don't think it's nothing malicious there. A little underlying. I think it's just a little, It's like a wink. It's like a head nod, like a little, you know what I mean? But I don't think it's any malicious energy behind that.

I can't. I will be very surprised if that was a part of it. And I know Hoves looking at it like, all right, you think that's a one-up if you get that. But I would have to talk to Lucian about buying any of your shit. Mm-hmm. That's not up for sale because you don't own it. Mm-hmm. So I can see that perspective from Hove if it happened.

But the way Drake talked on 8 a.m. in Charlotte, when he was really saying, you know, I've been just gathering information about all of you in the rap world in case anyone wants to go there with me is kind of what you're saying. But that's what you're supposed to do. We have talked many times. We think every rapper ever has in their notes folder. Versus about rappers their friends with now, but just in case. For sure. I think this is one of those moves. And I'm curious what type of greasy talk Drake comes with if he ends up purchasing one thing. third a reasonable doubt. We had this talk before about somebody, but see, the thing is when you talk about somebody like, that's going to be a crazy verse. Yeah, but when you, that's going to be a crazy verse. Yeah, but you can't talk.

See, this is why Jay is so different because you can't out, you can't out slick talk Jay. You can't greasy talk Jay. You can't do that. If there's anybody that could even probably remotely even come close, it would be Drake. But even Drake, as great as he is and as much as he's accomplished, just, you know, Jay is on a, you know, when you talk about just the ability to talk slick, Jay's made a career off of just slick talking and, you know, now putting itself in a space business-wise

where, you know, a lot of these other dudes are not on that level as far as business it goes. But, you know, I would love to see it for the sport. But again, I don't think it's, I don't think it's anybody that could, you can't out-slick talk. We talk about Jay-Z. You can't, you know, Drake is starting that, that verse out the gate. I try to be reasonable, but you doubt it. Like, you know it's coming out the gate. That Drake was started.

Right at home. I try to be reasonable, but you doubted. No, man. That would be fun to watch for sport. But again, man, that's, you're talking about, you know, Jay's, he's on a, he's on a different level as far as that slick talk shit goes. You can't, that's not how, that's not how you go at Jay. You can't talk greasy to Jay Z. This is, again, all hypothetical.

We don't even know. This is all, A.m. I'm saying Drake just DM them. If it was like a real thing. Dane would have been like, oh, Drake's lawyers reached out. Like it would have been a whole different thing. But in that hypothetical, let's say Drake, rightfully so, starts talking greasy because him and Hove have had back and forths for 12 years at this point.

Does Jay entertain any shots that come from Drake if he buys reasonable doubt? As far as on wax? Yeah. I don't know. I think Jay is just in a, I know. I don't think he's in that in that, uh, you know, rapper. I haven't seen Jay wear a lot of jewelry in a few years.

That's how when you know Jay is back like in rapper mode, he starts throwing on obnoxious jewelry shit that no other rapper can really, you know what I'm saying? It's like, and it's also like... Five percent of pieces that you don't even understand. Yeah, it's like he starts doing these things where you're like, oh, he's back in the booth. But I don't, I don't think that if Drake was to throw a shot at,

it's funny even talking about shit like that. But if he was to throw that type of shot, It would take a different type of, I don't think it would be the type of shot you'd think. I think Jay would have to hear something that would perk his ear up. But I don't think it would be as blatant as you may think. It may be something to where only Jay would catch it. And that may move him now.

I think the world has a perception that Hove ignores things. He pretty much replies to literally everything when it's time to wrap. No. Everything? You know how much. If you don't think we're going to get a verse that. has to do with the Wayne situation with the Super Bowl, you're bugging. No, he'll have a line addressing it.

Like, you know, how could y'all say, I shit on, I helped him with his taxes? Like, he'll remind you. Like, come on, who are y'all talking to? Like, I didn't help people that y'all don't need you. I forget convenient amnesia. Like 10 people on Twitter had talked about Meek and Hove maybe having an issue,

and he replied to that on God's plan. Not God's plan, I hope God did. Yeah, but his response was more so like, I freed him from a whole bid I'm saying Jay does not let you go But do you understand that response though That response is more so like yo cut it out man

I can't I wouldn't beef with the Like why would I beef with me Like what do you I helped him I'm not going You know what I'm saying like I got like I'm talking Not on like business shit I helped him in a real life situation

I helped him Yeah that's not what Twitter was talking about We're not saying you didn't do that We're just saying We think y'all have tension And he quickly And he quickly showed you how stupid that sounds I can't have tension with somebody that I helped get out of prison.

That don't even make sense. If I got tension with somebody, you think I'm going to help them get out of prison? To me, that kind of goes back to the Rowdy, Bobby question that happened on No Jumper. When I thought Rowdy handled that really well and didn't give in to the gossipy bullshit, but it appears like there may be some tension and he didn't answer the question, just said, that's my brother for life. That's kind of what I think Hove did with the Meek situation. Yeah.

You can still beef, but... No, but it's not beef. It's like... It's a deflection. It wasn't even a deflection. It's more... It's a correction is what it is. See, the internet is going to say shit and try to turn and twist shit.

It's like, stop. I understand that's the thing to do. Rap is beefing, going at each other. Let me let you all know where my relationship is with Meek. I helped him get out of prison. I'm not... I can never beef with somebody that I helped get out of prison. And we're on two totally different levels.

Like, what does Jay-Z came from beefing with Meek Mill? What is that... We're not beefing like publicly. Or even... They can have disagreements. behind the scenes. Oh, yeah. Disagreements happened

with best friends, you know. I mean, clearly there was something when Meek left Rock Nation. Like, that's what started this entire.

I don't even think it was nothing. I think, I think Jay was most on the side like, yo, if that's what you want to do, yo. Yeah. The tension would have been

him not wanting meke to get out of the deal and not wanting to release him. Then it's like, yo, why are you not letting me go and do what he want to do business-wise, letting him do his own thing?

That's where the weird shit comes in. But if it's like, yo, I kind of want to get off Rock Nation and go do my own thing and Jay's like, I bet, no doubt. Let me know if there's anything

I can help you with. That's letting you know that somebody is not in it for that type of shit. But I guess to my original point that Hove replies to literally everything, down to on written testimony. He gave us a whole verse

about his backlash with the NFL Super Bowl. We're done with kneeling. He even told us that he has more money than an entire NFL bench. Why would I need to sell out? I love that verse.

Yeah. But I'm saying he replies, to everything when it comes to wraps. If you think Drake buying one third, and Drake also replies, they're very similar in that regard. I just don't know what it be subtle. He replies to everything.

Everything is what I have a problem with. I don't think he replies to everything because there's a lot of shit that people say about Jay Z every day that he would never entertain. But there are certain things where he'll let you know, yeah, I heard when y'all was saying that,

y'all had that wrong. This is what that situation was. Everything is love. He even replied to the Twitter rumors of him having a kid. You wasn't supposed to take the dad shit. literally. Like, he really replies to everything that we say on the internet. I don't think everything. I think when you say everything, I don't think you know how much

shit they talk about Jay-Z on the internet. The things that get a little bit of steam. Yeah, but he'll let you know he sees, like, you probably sees it all. He's not going to respond to it all. But he'll let you know by responding to certain things like, yeah, I saw that. I caught that. But that's not what that was. So again, I don't think that, you know, when you say Jay-Z beefing or responding, he's not going to respond to any and everything. It's only certain things, like I said, that will kind of get him to move

and want to create music around it. Like it's not everything, though. And we can get off this topic, but I will ask the last question in this hypothetical. Do you think the rapper brain of Drake could even purchase that and not say anything on a song?

No, that's why you purchase it. You gotta get you. Just for rap? Yeah. Just do it for content at this point? Fuck yeah. You got to get that offer. Are you kidding me?

You purchased that. You got to rap about it. You got to talk shit about that. without a doubt. So do we, I mean, between your affiliation with your brother and Drake, like, are we invited to the first Reasonable Down meeting? Be a fly on the wall? It ain't going to be no meeting about that shit.

I think, I could take notes. Like, I could be a stenographer or something. Yeah, you could probably be able to do that. Yeah, like, I'll just take notes. So you're like, I'll send the meeting notes at the end. Actually, that's not what he said. This is what he said. I got it right here.

I'll take meeting notes. Yeah. I think that he definitely did reach out the day. and inquired, but I don't think it went much further than just a conversation. I don't think it went to the lawyers. Dame's not the one that makes that decision anyway. And I think that's what, once Drake realized,

daddy's like, oh, I got to go through all of these. I don't want to do it. No, Drake, we know Drake is very smart. He knew Dame couldn't sell that to him. He did that purposely because he knew Dame was going to get on a platform and be like, yo, Drake DM me about the shit. Well, that too. Definitely that.

But I think more so if he was really interested, he did inquire just to kind of get more information on like really what's going on with it from dame like yo so what's the like tell me more about like this situation like what's happening and i think once he found out that yeah j gets it all back in seven years he probably was like it's not really yeah you know what i mean it's not really probably not worth it all right that's uh my first set of flowers pjj that i get any flowers or no i'll give you flowers though because you definitely uh you definitely i'll give you a dandelion you get a you get a rose you get a rose for that not a whole bouquet okay my next next segment of me wanting my

flowers has to do with universal and meta doing a deal. And I don't know if I need flowers in this, but I've been very curious since the beginning of this Drake and Kendrick Beef. That's the why he's putting all this music out. Why are both of them leaking this initially on Instagram? And I know a lot of people were saying like, oh, because the samples and like, it's about hip hop. It's about the beef. Like, it's not on DSPs because this is pure art now. Yeah. They're just going to. going to go on Instagram. I'm like, oh,

I don't know if Instagram's the purest art. Yeah, definitely not. They should have pressed it on a CD with a Sharpie at that point. Yeah. But I was always curious why they did that.

I was like, there has to be some type of reason. Reasoning with this at all. And then we even had debates of, okay, there's still affiliation with Universal and maybe they wanted Kendrick to release

defaming things about their biggest artist, not on DSPs. Like maybe that's what it had to do with. Then 100 gigs comes out and we have the debate of like, why is Drake posting this stuff on this website, plus only putting these records out on Instagram, still feels very weird. And were we here or last episode when I was saying,

you know, if he cared about these records, there'd be a proper rollout. That's where I was wrong in regards to everything now, sense. Meta and Instagram, I'm sorry, meta is Instagram, meta and Universal have some form of a partnership.

And this is coming from producer Damien Young, who's been going viral lately as far as breaking down like royalties. He's, I really do like his page. He does explain things for like a dumb novice like myself to really understand that type of stuff. So he

last night put this out. Instead of being paid for streams, artists are being paid for the number of accounts that use their music instead. To put it simply, instead of artists being paid for activity generated by their music, such as comments, like, shares, reposts, they are instead being paid by the number of accounts

who choose to use their song instead. Which we had some knowledge of this with TikTok when people were using sounds and like, that was sort of out there. But now that Universal and Meta have this partnership, I think it goes to a different level. So yeah, again, we know that this has been going on with TikTok

as far as using sounds and people being paid out for that. What Damien Young is really asking with this new partnership with meta and universal is how is that formula going to change now? And clearly artists like Kendrick

and Drake are ahead of the curve and have the answers to that. But we don't know what that payout looks like whatsoever. I think this deal that they announced is going to change music the way it changed when DSPs showed up.

We constantly are asking like, all right, DSPs has to be the final front. Like, where could it go from here? Right. With meta now, it's going to have to create

an entirely new formula that we have no idea how it's even going to benefit any artist or creator, but clearly the biggest ones are already doing it before any of this announcement. So remember when we were talking,

I was like, there's no way Universal's cool with Drake putting all this footage up like that. own that. There has to be a reason why they're okay with the moves Drake has been making because they still own his shit for the most part. I know licensing deal, whatever. But yeah, there's not much to really discuss with this announcement. I just think we should keep our eyes on it because everything's about to change. But I think we kind of, because when

Drake did the, um, Honey Giggs thing and one of your first reactions to it was, Oh, Drake had to remind everybody, like the catalog, the work, things he's done. But now, as we can see, it's a different thing coming now with this meta thing. And remember when the whole catastrophe of Universal artists can't be on TikTok anymore, they're not giving in. All of that shit is tied in. Now meta does deal with Universal. Everyone's playing with house money. Yeah.

And we're the only ones that'll be fucked. Like every time we come in here and I'm like, yo, finally, they're holding out. Nope. No. This was the play the whole time. Yeah. And Drake and Kendrick are clearly ahead of the curve of what's going on. Oh, but you know that they're already in the know and in the business of all of these things before we find out about it.

They know what was going to happen? They know the shifts in the moves that are being made. So, you know, now what does this do though as far as moving forward when artists make moves like that? Like now we're looking at every moment. move like okay what is this tied to what is that tied to because everything has to make sense for the artist at the end of the day and this isn't a defend drake situation at all with everyone's like yo it's just not even charting anymore it's not on billboard like i does that matter now are we seeing the shift where that how you release music matters more to what you do with

meta than it would ever matter with charts yeah or playlist or ds for that matter I think ego-wise it probably still matters. Ego. We're talking about ego. Just personal ego. But if you have information as Drake of where things are going to shift, I don't think you have an ego at all because you know what's about to happen. You're probably looking at all of us laughing.

Oh, of course. At the ignorance. Like even we don't have to make it a Drake thing with Kendrick putting out, kill the party or whatever the title will be, which we don't even know the title. Doesn't even matter. Because it doesn't even fucking matter. I was like, you know, that Kendrick's song came and went. Did it?

Because it's all over, it's all over meta. Yeah. It's not on DSBs. It's not on any charts. It's not being played. But it's being played where it matters. Right. If this new formula exists.

And it's, I guess, the fight back at TikTok. Like, all right, we'll find a partner that will fuck with us. Yeah. And that'll make it valuable for both of them. Our catalog will matter now. Yeah. And we are going to start counting things by the accounts that share. rather than the streams.

Because they all fucked us up and created the streaming formula. We joked for a decade. What is the stream? How do you even dictate what a stream is, what it costs? You created that formula

in your head one day. And now we all have to march by those standards. You value my music at this because you say so. This is fucked up. I think they're about to do the exact same thing at meta.

They're going to change the formula of how music is valued. oh, it's valued now by just what accounts are sharing it, not by what stream it gets, not by the amount of seconds it's played on DSPs. They are now can create a completely different formula on the fly. So a deeper thought on that, how does that affect the formula of creating music and writing music?

Who the fuck knows? See, that's the part I'm thinking about. Like, how does that affect the creative process of? Well, that's what Damien Young was saying at the end of this video that went viral last night. of like they've announced it, but they haven't given us any information on what a payout even looks like at this point,

which was streaming early too. Like everyone was wondering, all right, cool. I like what Spotify is doing. Oh, I heard Apple was about to do the same thing. This is the new wave. How am I being paid? We're still trying to figure that out.

This is going to be a whole other monster. How you even dictate what, all right, accounts did it. But the amount of AI and bot shit that you could do. Like, how do you even dictate what happens? And it's already a producer that used AI to create a band and then used bots to listen to the- To make $10 million.

And you think they're going to let that shit slide now? See, we got to find the scammer that knows how to do that. I don't want no clothes, no jewelry. You niggas better start creating band. That's the pieces that hit for me. Yeah. Create a fucking band. And let's run these fucking numbers up and cash out.

The best I ever did was scam best buy gift cards. Yeah, like, fuck. Those days is over. I wish I could make a bands. We don't want flat screens. Don't call me with no more flat screen TVs. Niggas have five bands. Wait, not $5,000.

Five guitars and basses and the lead sing. I have all of that fake shit waiting. That's the fake shit we want. And it's just like, I don't know. I'm pessimistic, so this type of shit depresses me. You know, we... It's scared you because you're, you're hard. You create music.

It's going to affect everything across the board. Because, you know, even with the podcast world, where as far as ads and CPMs go towards downloads, we clearly see that streams do more than downloads. And that's like an ancient thought. So we are in the streaming world, whether we like it or not, this affects us the same way. Yeah.

I don't know. They fucked us to begin with when it came to DSPs because podcasts keep people on DSPs longer than Thriller could. The retention rate is incredible with podcasts, but we are paid out at the same rate, which is fucked up. If I keep someone on your platform this long, I should not be paid the same as someone that doesn't.

How do you think that that would affect the podcasting industry? If at all. I don't know yet. That's what I'm saying. This is kind of nuts of what they're doing. Because it's sounds now. Like that's even how TikTok does it. It's an actual song that you cut down is just called a sound.

And I'm not trying to get too deep, but like, that's fucking nuts. It's not songs like, this is a scary. This is a sound that you can put behind your TikTok video. And now that has a value that is counted the same way a single once was. Yeah. This was used and it was cost this much. This is what you get back. I don't know what the fuck they're going.

What's a sound anymore? Yeah, man. They're changing the meaning and definition of words right in front of us. And we got to just like go with it. I'm scared. I'm not. I wouldn't say scared. I'm interested.

it and I want to see how it affects change and things like that. But this is part of technology. This is part of advancing, you know, as far as, you know, the way we listen to music, the way we create music, the way we, you know, share music with each other. This is all part of this whole new thing that we have. And repeating myself again, but it has to do with what we're talking about. When I was at Sony and Spotify went public, emailed the whole company, can't buy shares.

that would be considered insider trading because we own 25% of Spotify. Which is crazy. So if I'm an artist at Sony, you're dictating what I'm paid out. You're supposed to be my representation. You should be fighting the DSPs to make sure I'm paid the right amount of money.

No, you're sitting with them and setting the price for what you think I'm worth. And I think meta and Universal is doing the exact same thing now, the same way, majors did with DSPs. All right, yeah, we'll just buy in to your company and we can all set the price ourselves. We can make sure that a stream to an artist is only worth 0.000,001 cent.

But to us, we're getting $12.99 a month from every subscriber. I would love that. I got to have a conversation with what about this. I'm sure he didn't already. I'm probably sounding like a bunch of nonsense right now, but that video blew my mind last night of the meta and universal connection. Yeah. Not to say it was like, holy shit.

It makes sense. Yeah, it makes sense. But they are about to set the market price again. The market is going to change, for sure. And we're just going to be sitting here like, hey. But do you think it changes for the better? No. You think artists are still going to get fucked at the end of the day?

Yes. Because clearly, which we've talked about, that the biggest leverage that major have is catalog. It's not new artists. Catalog is everything, especially that was the whole TikTok beef, like, Universal's saying, you, we're not giving you the catalog. So wait, if this ties into why people were dumping their catalogs a couple years ago?

100%. Okay. Hell yeah. Just talking with Zad about selling this EO shit. Yeah. All right. Five more years and we sell on this show. A lot of that shit makes sense now. Yeah.

Because I couldn't understand it at first. I was like... It's being used for the tech companies and content. sounds it's being used to sound fucking sound sound sound swiss tried to tell us I thought he was just saying weird shit I thought Swiss was just high

it's still no it's still weird Sound sound zone zone the zone that we own Oh man well we'll see what happens Again I'm not pretending like I am an expert in any of this shit I'm just as confused as everyone else Just as scared as every other creator that the person that's supposed to pay us out

can set the price. I mean, I think in any other genre or industry, that would be illegal. But what the fuck do I know? Believe, like, it's a monopoly. Almost by definition. 100%.

That's not even a debate anymore. It's a monopoly in a cul-de-sac and we're just trying to pay rent. Just trying to get a piece of it. That's fucking crazy. Before we go any further, though, we've lost some legends. We did. We lost some great people in our culture.

Rest in peace to the great James Earl Jones. Somebody that has been a figure on our screens, televisions, radios, homes for years. Lost him last week. So rest and peace and condolences to James Earl Jones. We lost Frankie Beverly. Mm-hmm. Rest in peace to Frankie Beverly.

Somebody, you talk about Frankie Beverly and Mays, who's been the soundtracks to some of our greatest memories and fondest moments with our friends and families throughout the years. You can't go to any celebration, cookout, ceremony, anything without hearing Frankie Beverly at some point. So rest in peace to the legend, Frankie Beverly. And also rest of peace to Tito Jackson. Yes.

From the Royal Jackson. I like to call him the Royal. Jackson family. We lost Tito Jackson a couple of days ago. So prayers, condolences, and rest and peace to all of the legends that we've lost. And yeah, man, it's just, you know, it's always tough when you start seeing people that such a like people that you've heard or seen for years and, you know, in music and film and things like that have given us some great moments and some legendary, legendary art that will remain forever. So rest and peace

And prayers and condolences To the legends And the icons Mr. James Earl Jones Mr. Frankie Beverly And Mr. Tito Jackson What's some? What's your favorite

James Earl Jones movie? My favorite James Earl Jones Gotta be coming to America King Geoffrey Jofa Yeah Gotta be King Jaffrey Joe I mean You know I'm white

So Field of Dreams It's pretty high up there for me Oh yeah Field of Dreams That's a that's a legendary film I loved him in the Sandler lot. Yeah.

The Sandlot. One of my favorite movies, loved him in that. But yeah, I think coming to America is probably the one that we all go to when we think about

James Earl Jones for sure. But he's been, you know, you start really looking into the history and the career and legacy of James Gerald Jones are he's done,

he's done it all. Yeah. He's done everything. How much rooms do you think Phil Robinson was on when he wrote Phil to Dreams? He was a sick. That's a sick.

movie when you start getting into that that plot. That's a great movie though. It's a- I'm talking about main character's syndrome. Kevin Costner's in that, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, now that was a movie.

I think we had to, that was one of the movies I think we had to watch in school. Really? Yeah, I think that was one of those movies. They used to roll the TV out. I'm that old. Roll the TV out. I'm that old, too,

I don't think we watched Phil the Dreams. My dad sat down to watch the dreams in school. Definitely. And I love that movie, classic. I might hear the shit on it, but I'm a shit on it. it's the definition of like main character syndrome whatever the kids say now

like all this happened just so you could reconnect with your pops like everyone's ghost came back James Earl Jones went on a road trip with you this is all just so you could say to your dad do you think I'm good at baseball? Yeah you can't see that

that was that ending was so fucking I was like wait this was what it was about yeah the connection no that was a shroom trip it definitely feels like a shroom. Now that you get older, you know, like, with different drugs, do you? No one's that important that all of that was going to happen just so he could say what's up to his pop. Great movie, though.

And then his selfish ass, I can't go in the cornfield. I can't come with it. I built this. Bro, talk to your dad. This is what this was about. We're going to take James Earl Jones and the rest of the people in the cornfield. You're not coming. Yeah.

We'll talk to your dad. You're not coming with us. Yeah. Great movie, though. Love that movie. Classic. I'm a little scared to talk about this topic because I don't fully know what's going on

but why is everyone mad at Tyler? So I believe she received a VMA and I think because it was the way she was I can't remember but somebody posed a video and was like she was trying to have Chloe Bailey holder and then Lilah Nause X have Nause X a holder award for her because it was heavy.

that happens though Like there's been plenty of award shows where But they get it in like Person presenting they'll be like Yeah but when when your person receives the award You only see the person You don't see who's off to the side of them So when they showed the other angle

And how she was trying to hand The award to Little Nas X To hold it for her I guess that that kind of like silenced all of the things that people were saying about I don't even know what that was What's all right let's say she was like Yo Lil Nas hold my shit

Okay now what Why is everyone upset? I don't know. And we can have this all wrong, but I don't even know what they were mad at. From what I see, and I kind of wish you would tell this story instead of me, pardon my white face. I think it's rooted in the stereotype that Africans look down on African Americans. Oh, boy. I mean, that's, let's call us a space.

That's been a thing for a very long time. talked about it, but I also, I'm looked down upon on niggas that's on my block that grew up with me. So now what? But you're not Tyler. Yeah, no, I'm not. I'm definitely not Tyler. But I'm just saying, people look down on you no matter where they're from. Like, why do we got to try to make it that?

Yes, I know what that whole conversation is and, you know, Africans feel like they're better than African Americans and things like that. And they look down on us. And people from down the block from you that grew up there, they look down on me. So it's like, what are we talking about here? And maybe I miss more of this story. I just don't. I know, I've known that stereotype for a long time. I've been told that stereotype.

I just didn't see it when she asked Lil Nas X to hold. Bro, the trophy is heavy. It's a man on stage. Can you hold this for me while I, you know, give my acceptance speech? What are we talking about here? I call it Pige's laugh. Yeah, like, I could. I mean, but, Pige, what you laughing at?

You know what he was laughing at. But, yeah, I don't know what he was laughing at. I don't, this, this thing of people trying to paint this, Tyler as just this, you know, I don't know how they're trying to paint it. Just give her this weird kind of like, you know, thing that she looks down or she thinks she's better than or she's only successful because she's pretty. And it's just, we were just running out of things to talk about or something. I mean, I think most artists just look down in this period. Nikki has never made me feel good about myself.

Well, we got that on tape. We know exactly how she made you feel about just. So, but yeah, I don't, that Tyler thing, man, I just think that that was people reading that all wrong. And then I'm glad the other angle of that video came out. And you can clearly see she's kind of asking Nazex to hold up war for her. I saw, you know, Nikki's been, I don't want to say spiraling on Twitter, but that's what a lot of people have said. She's been, she's been furious with her thumbs for the past two weeks. She did tweet something that I really did want to, like, co-sign her that people thought she was crashing out.

But I understood. She was saying she went to theater school. and she was taught how to not laugh when she was making jokes. So they appear to be serious. It's like an acting technique. And I was like, what the fuck is she talking about?

I can attest that when she was talking about a broom being shoved in my ass, I could see in her eyes that she was joking even though it didn't come across like, that's a trained actor. And even when we were doing Queen Radio and she would go on like these rants, I could see like she was kind of smiling,

but you couldn't tell unless you were right next to her. Nikki be trolling, man. Like, the way, when she screams and they're like, she's joking. I just don't think people understand that. People didn't grow up with sisters and home girls that, you know, that's,

Nikki reminds me with so many girls that I grew up with when they, you know, get to talking their shit and, you know, but it's like, you know, they don't mean it in a malicious way. Like, I've been cursed out by plenty of girls that exact way. And at the end of the night, it's like, you know,

it's all up. I mean nothing about it. In that situation? That's what I said to Nick. You're not the first woman from Queens to curse me out. Yeah, like that's not affected here. Come on, fan. Like, I'm from New York.

Are you kidding me? Like, that's definitely, I'm used to that type of talk. But spending that whole day with her, and again, they were killing her on Twitter. I was like, nah,

I spent a day with this chick. I could see every time she wanted to laugh in so many rants. But it's the character that she's putting on for this entertainment purpose. She's going to lean into her being the bad guy. She was doing her best not to die laughing that entire day. Yeah, Nikki, she's going to lean to that. I was like,

why is Nikki so mad at you? She wasn't? But she understands that that's the narrative that people are trying to paint. So she's like, all right, I'm the bad guy. And paint me as the bad guy. But at the end of the day, she's a sweetheart, man. I love Nikki. Yeah.

I'm happy she would get in their shit off, though. I think it's a little misdirected with the whole thing. You need that. Let Nikki get that shit off. Fuck that. And people, sometimes people need to hear that. You need to curse some of these motherfuckers out. That is fair.

You know what I'm saying? Like, sometimes you need to tell people we shut the fuck up. Like, why not? Yeah. Sometimes people need to shut the fuck up. Especially when you're, husband is behind you shadow boxing balloons yeah no one else could see that on a frame but I could one day I've never seen anyone hit combos like that on a pink balloon I had so much fun that day I was like

how'd you turn helium into a speed bag for so many reasons I had so much fun that day that was a great day we have some voicemails let's get to him you've got mail anything interesting um relationship advice I feel like giving the relationship advice today. Like, let me... I think this first one... You know, Nikki, Nikki get this bad rep. I get a bad rep for wanting to break people up today. I want to make people, you know, happier in their relationships.

Oh, you lying just like Nikki? No, for real. What up, Rory and Mall, Julian and Damaris? I have a dating question. Yes. So I was seeing a guy for a few months. We were essentially long distance, but it was... We were very close in proximity.

And I was often out there in the same state as him, in the same city. And so every time I was out there, we would see each other, link up, whatever, go on dates, and everything was going really well. I do want to say

that this person pursued me first. Okay. I think I know this girl. I'm not going to say, there's no way she called in. No. No. I know who this is.

Now that you say that, I think I know who this is. You know who this is. Yeah. Play it. So that's why this is an issue for me because. Nah, man.

after a while communication just completely stopped and part of it was because I wasn't traveling out there as much so that's kind of what I assumed but for it being so abrupt and after everything going so well and us talking about a future together

and again it was very much in a honeymoon phase of dating but I brought it up to him about a month after us like not communicating out of nowhere and he told me that it was an out of sight out of mind thing like he didn't think a long distance relationship could work. Now, I just thought it was kind of weird because he already knew where I

lived and vice versa and everything was going cool. Like, there was no stipulations that we even talked about. It was just getting to know each other. So that was one thing he brought up. And another thing was that we knew too many of the same people. Now, you know exactly who this is. Oh, I feel like that's a whole insecurity. And he is just kind of like tapping out and making assumptions for no reason. Now, is this someone that I should let go of? Do I need to just not worry about it? Like, am I being played? Let me know what you guys think. See, I can't be objective in this anymore. I wish Demaris was here. This is, we might have to redo this voicemail again on Patreon with Demaris. Because the moment I hit play, she'd be like, nah, no way she called in. Who is that?

I'm not going to say her name. I mean, we have the daddy button. All right, we came back in. I can't be objective in this voicemail. If this is not the girl, I think it is, they have the exact same fucking voice. Yeah. Even the way they say things, this has to be her.

But say that's not her. What advice do we have for her? Not because I can't get out of my head that it could be her. And I'm a hater. Yeah, like, no, leave him. I even know you was talking to other people. That's crazy. That's wild.

Who'd you think? And call it here. Once we end, you can't. Yeah, no. You can't be anyone else. And I'm definitely not giving you advice. Like, come on. I'm not that secure.

Of course not. I'm not going to be objective here. He's not the right one for you. Oh, man. This is wild. I don't know if this is good content or not, but that just blew my mind. She subscribes to our Patreon. Are we sure that's heard of?

I'm not even, like, we can't, it might not even be who you're talking about. I mean, we should keep all this because it's hilarious. No, definitely keep it. But I don't think that that's who you think it is. I can't. I can't see that. I can't see that. Me either.

Or text her and ask. Like, yo, did you leave her? I haven't. Her and I haven't spoke in a really long time. That's why I don't believe that that's who that. That's her. I don't believe that. No way, man.

I just don't think that she would do that. That's like so far-fetched. Like, she might be like, yo, what are you talking about? There's no way she subscribes to the Patreon. She definitely- You know, this is just going to be a funny segment because this is just how, like,

corny dues are. Random. Hope all is well. No, you don't. You don't even hope all as well. And you're living in your purpose. I thought you were about

say living your dreams. Oh, should I do that in today? I hope you're living your dreams. I'm going to try to sound better and say, hope you're living within your purpose. Living within your purpose is crazy.

I hope you found your dreams. Listen, man, Kendrick told us we got a mature. I don't think that's that girl, though, bro. I really don't. I can't see that. Did you happen to call into the voicemail segment? No.

Of our podcast. No, man. No, I'm guarantee you that's not her. I guarantee you. And why I fuck with this girl so much is she's such an asshole. She's, even if she did call in, she's going to lie and clown me and be like, yo, you're trying to fuck again? Like, no, I didn't.

This is your way to reconnect. Yeah. Because this is up there with like, tell your mom. I said happy Thanksgiving. Oh, when they text you happy. Did you call into my podcast? That's definitely not that, girl. That's not even who I was thinking.

Did she respond? No, I just sent it. Okay. All right, so what's your advice to not her? Yes, just let it go. I'll try to be objective. I mean, if he's that close and you've been active in what you want to do here, I'd just let the shit go.

It's clear that he doesn't. He don't want to be. that. And just come home. Yeah. Man, it stopped, because we don't even know if that's the same person,

man. Stop, just cut it out, man. That's not her. Okay. But no, it says anonymous.

I was trying to find the email. Okay. But it's completely anonymous. And you know what email is crazy. You remember emails? Like, off the top? I mean,

sometimes when you get blocked, you got an email one. Well, that is true. That is true. But why I'm not bugging is. Pige also called it and was like, nah,

this sounds familiar. I don't think that's her. I don't see that's her. All right. Well, if not, sorry we gave no advice. This was just more of a... No, we did. We gave advice. You know where home is at?

Yeah. So, the door's always open. That's why you calling in? She trying to get back. Thank you for supporting the podcast. Yeah, thank you. We appreciate that, for sure. See, look at that. Even with my old joints, still supporting my dreams. Yeah. That means you a good guy.

We didn't end bad. Yeah. We were cool. That's why it pays not to end. bad. Oh yeah. That relationship there. That's the homie. Just, you know, just, yeah, I'll grew each other. I'm a whole-blown father in a relationship.

So, you know, just got to give a thumbs up and hope everyone's living within their purpose. Yeah. Um, next voice, Bill. All right, I'm sure I met this fast, right? So, I met this girl when I was 19 and she was 18. I'm 22 now, she's 21. All right, met her that summer, went on one date, and then she went off to school. Okay. Sorry that I

stopped this real quick. And, Keep all the speech. She just replied. Same to you. No, I didn't, but why do you ask? So I told you that's not her. It's not her, man. I told you that.

That's not her. Trust me, that's not her. It's not, bro. No. Maybe we should reconnect, then. Maybe that was a sign. No, don't. It's a joke.

Please, though. Camp in contact, right? That next summer in 2022, we went on like 12, 13 dates, right? Keep in mind, we never kissed or no sex, none of that. Because, I mean, we like each other, but we want to, you know.

You went on 12, 13 days and y'all didn't kiss? Hmm? She don't like you. What girl are you going to go on a date with 12 times and not get a kiss? 12 times? 12 dates, we live together. 12 dates with somebody and you don't kiss them?

That ain't, bro. There's no kimmish, just no sexual. You are saved as food. Yeah. Yeah, 12 dates. Are you going on 12 dates? Yo, we have like, you have your toothbrush in my crib at that point. 12 dates?

I'm more on the side of one, but I feel you. All right. I'm sure I met this fast, right? So I met this girl when I was 19 and she was 18. I'm 22 now. She's 21. All right. Met her that summer went on one date and then she went off to school.

But it was great. So we kept in contact, right? That next summer in 2022, we went on like 12, 13 dates, right? Like, keep in mind, we never kissed. One of sex, none of that. Because, I mean, we like these shows. But we didn't want to, you know, complicate shit. So it's just, hey, we're just going to keep, you know, going out, having fun.

All right, cool. You wouldn't want to cut. You would have beat the first date if she let you. Yeah, like, what are you talking about, fit? We didn't want to complicate. Going on 13 dates and not wanting to complicate things. I want my shit to be wild complicated. It's complicated now.

Why are we on 13 days? And we ain't kissed yet. It's very complicated. I don't see her. I don't see her. I don't see her. Now that I'm out of it, I saw her in August. and we finally

like really confess like you know like what's up between us and we was on the same page it's like all right cool we both like each other great and then we went out

one more time before she went off again and this time we finally at least broke like the kiss barrier like you know we did that all right cool

so now we have somewhat of an understanding when she graduates in May and comes home to Atlanta we'll see what happens I told her I'm not expecting nothing which is you know

we'll just try it out and see, right? So it's been a great little three-year long time coming, slow-burning-ass story. And I don't even have a question. I just want to say, fuck y'all, niggas, because on the recent Patreon episode, y'all mentioned Florida State it made that shit sound insane. That's where she goes. So, like, I was just like, wait, what, what you mean? That I just didn't, I didn't ask for a stomachache, so.

I can assure you at college, she didn't go on one day. He said, yo, I don't want no advice. I just wanted to say, fuck y'all. Fam, you went on 13 dates with this girl, got your first kiss on the 16th date. And then brought up the college that she went to on our Patreon of like, yo, go down over there. I can guarantee you, homie that ain't, when you're taking her out and you ain't getting no kisses, guess what? She's going right back to her campus and she kisses somebody else, man. Matter of fact, she's swiping for him to get into the cafeteria.

That's a fact. That's a fact. homie he's a friend he's she probably likes him and you know he's he's a friend like she's not trying to trying to i guess take it there with him he's i don't you know guys in the south like settle down early and care about wait was that the end of it yeah just it oh he just cut off i mean okay all right cool yeah ended at 1 30 okay um guys in the south want to settle down early and all that shit i will say this if it does work out when she comes back in may just try to keep out of your had her college career.

If that's your queen and you guys waited and that's a beautiful story, I love that. It sounds great. Just know that maybe wasn't her style in the inner term of, you know, when she was away of school. Like, she's your queen now, real.

Yeah. You got her. Press the delete button on all of her, like, college years. Like, just when he was dating, taking her to eat and all that, like. And, you know, when she does go to her reunion

in five years and it's like oh babe come with me I want you to meet all my college friends and you just start noticing shit yeah just hold it down you signed up for this just hold it down you sign up for this you know he said

fuck y'all man because y'all mentioned those and then when like one of her male friends is like oh like when did y'all meet and you say before college and then he started adding shit up and goes hmm mm-hmm just hold it down yeah

when he started doing the math well I mean he said that they had the conversation and they're on the same page. Now they both like each other. So he was also in a relationship, though. So is he? He said he was after like their 30 days. He got a relationship and now.

Now they're single. She was never not single. No, yeah. She was never not single. She had somebody at the dorms. At the state. Yeah, at the dorms waiting for her to get back. So call us back and let us know if y'all, you know, finally smacked some sugar again.

If you smacked her ass, I don't know. And I feel like college bodies don't count. Shit. Come on. They count. I'm 34. I don't know. I don't know how old you are like. You can't. Don't lie to yourself.

If you date and a chick age, there's no way you could be like, I wonder what she didn't got. Yeah. It was a long time. You're not, all right, first of all, you not. I'm not saying like if the water polo team ran through her. I'm just saying, okay, all right, all. No, no. I'm just saying like, of course there's a line.

Yes. Okay. All right. That's all I was asking. That's all I was. Because you knew where I was going. And that line is, please, I hope the offensive line didn't run through. Yeah, yeah.

As long as we keep me in perspective, like, there are certain things. things we never overlooking. Never. Caught some bodies in the four years you were in college. Oh, yeah, yeah. I mean, we know that's, come on. I get that part. I'm just not,

I'm not going to reunion. Yeah, yeah. If it's like the same guys that we're the same, you know, lettermen's have the same story about you, then it's like, yeah, can't really take her too serious,

but, you know, I'm glad you graduated. Yeah, if you walk into that 10-year reunion and they're like, damn, you settle down? And you're sitting there like, why wouldn't she settle down? Why is that weird, do you?

She wasn't always settled? Yeah, like I... I met her quite settled. I don't really understand what... What do you mean by that? What do you mean by that? Not when I was in school with her. We got a nickname for her.

I think now I need a settlement. Yeah, yeah, that's a fact. But yeah, call us back and let us know if the relationship, you know, went to... Is he even at first base? Yeah, he got a kiss. So let us know if y'all made it to second base. I'm rooting for them.

Date number 27. We'll be in Atlanta. in November. Yes. Tickets available now, new Roryamol.com. We will be in Toronto, October 17th,

Atlanta, November 22nd, and then in New York City at the Gramsie Theater December 13th and December 14th. That's around Thanksgiving time. Maybe she'll come home

for Thanksgiving and he could bring her to the show. And we could, like, talk to them on stage. That'll be five. Yeah. That'll be date number what?

15. Yeah. Sol for X. I'm making them kiss in front of us. Fuck that. You're going to you're going to give him some sugar in front of me.

This man then took you on 19 dates and he ain't get a kiss. I mean, if the show goes good, maybe he'll be able to touch her titty that night. Who knows? Oh, man, that's too fast. That's going to take another 12 dates. What do you consider the bases? So first base is her mouth. That's the kiss.

What? You've got to add more context to that. I said the kiss. That's the kiss. Her mouth being first. Is anal The second base? The fuck is wrong with you?

That's a home run. In the park home run. Yeah, that's a grand slam. She lets you throw it in her cake. That's a great slam. Her mouth being first base is fucking crazy. You fucking slut. I met the kiss, man.

That's first base. The anil me and third is crazy. What's home at that point? I'm pegging. Holy shit. Oh, man. All right. So first base would be kissing.

Making out, kiss it. Like, I never understood the bases. And the first base is a kiss. Second base is like, a little hand-to-hand action. Start grabbing the boobs, you know. That's second. Third is when you start,

at least, you know, playing with the box a little bit. That wouldn't be second base? Second playing with the box. Damn. Yeah, because I thought third was like, head. And then home run was fucking. Third is when you, head is when you still third.

That's still in third. We get the head. You know, you know, when Benny got in the pickle in Sandlot? That's when you get your ass licked. If you outdo the pickle. Oh, man. Oh, shit. That's what James Earl Jones would want. Oh, man.

Oh, my God. Rest of peace, James Earl Jones. My guy. When we at, man? He just knocked on his door. Yo, shut up. He was blind, bro. They was scared.

He had the dog back there. It was a fucking, they were scared of the dog. He thought it was a killer. But I get that as a kid. That was the back of the house. Like, there was probably a front door like that was on the street side. You're trying to ruin American classics, man. Shut up, bro.

Didn't they already do you say a lot too and ruin it? I boycott it. I definitely didn't watch that shit. I didn't see that. If they did, I definitely didn't watch Sandlot too. I'm not watching that. There was, and they put like a fucking Dalmatian on the front of the guy. Oh, yeah, I don't know.

I see, I'm good. I didn't watch that. It's progressive, real bullshit. I'm cool. I don't know how those two things tie together whatsoever, but this was fun. Oh, had a great time. So the next time y'all hears. Thank you.

To London. Oh, thank you. First of all, thank you. You saw the most amazing show ever. Thank you. Everybody that came out to the London show. We appreciate y'all. We will be back soon.

But yeah, thank you to the London podcast studio. Thank you to Kai for welcoming us while we're here, showing us love. And thank you to everybody in London, man. It was great. It was a good time. Great weather. The weather held up this time for us. And by the time you're hearing us and seeing us, we will be back in New York City.

Yeah. So let's head home, man. Bring us on home. See, now I'm nervous. Don't touch my ass, though, but just bring us home. You're not Benny the jet. That's why. That was his name, right?

Yeah. You ain't put on the Chris Chucks just to outrun a dog for no reason. Oh, man. Who really thinks Babe Ruth signed that ball? Yo, stop, man. You get weird and start ruining the classics for us, man. I mean, he was an awful stepfather to begin with.

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