New Rory & MAL - Episode 305 | ShxtsNGigs

Episode Date: September 24, 2024

The boys are back in town! The gang reunites and does a quick catch up, before getting into their London fellow podcast 'ShxtsNGigs' getting 'cancelled' by their own fan base over a resurfaced Andrew Shultz clip (12:54). We also speak on the other content creators receiving backlash this week (29:51). Jerry Jones, owner of the Dallas Cowboys, had some... interesting... comments leak, we address and try to guess who he could've been talking about (36:50). Diddy got arrested... so now what? The team puts their prediction in on what will come of the charges and who will be next to fall from grace (45:41). We have voicemails! The first is from a listener who just wants to go to the strip club in peace but his girl isn't with it (1:18:47). This leads into a conversation about insecurity in relationships having early red flags, and married people be super overprotective when around single people. The second one is from a woman who wants to know the correct timeline for getting back in the dating game after a breakup (1:39:20).Thanks to our sponsors: Sign up for your one-dollar-per-month trial period at https://SHOPIFY.COM/rorymal Download the PrizePicks app today and use code RORYMAL and get $50 instantly when you play $5! For MORE Rory & Mal, make sure you subscribe to our Patreon community, for exclusive episodes, first access to tickets and merch sales, private live chats with the team, + more! https://www.patreon.com/newrorynmalFollow Rory: @ThisIsRoryFollow MAL: @MAL_ByTheWayFollow Demaris: @DemarisAGiscombeFollow Julian: @Julian__nicholas To watch the podcast on YouTube: https://bit.ly/NewRoryAndMALYouTube Don’t forget to follow the podcast for free wherever you're listening or by using this link: https://bit.ly/NewRoryAndMAL Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoicesSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

This is an I-Heart podcast. Guaranteed human. I see you move. I'm checking your smile. Working your back like it's going out of stuff. Awful. Awful, bar. You know that right.

It stinks. Nobody wanted to, that gets no play in the ride. You don't play that shit. I'll shake it a little bit faster. I love black women. Julian, I'm telling you right now. That was a mic check. I will knock your ass out on camera.

I'm just letting you know right now. I've already tried. Here I was trying to think of an intro. Hey, guys. Hi, everyone. Across the pond. Cool. Oh, I thought Cash dolls.

I'm sorry. You said you were ready to record. Because Cash doll might be in danger. No, we can keep all this. Is she okay? She's great. You got a location? It's great.

No, I just saw Cash Doll's fighting. I was like, well. She's tall. She probably is good reach. No, Cash doll. She definitely, uh. For sure. She looked like she could fight. Yeah, she ain't, she ain't, she ain't no punk. She can hold on for sure.

But yeah, we are back. Back in New York City. Cross the pond, isn't it? Back home. How, how you been? I ain't see you in a, it feels, honestly, if I'm being honest what you were. Can I be honest with you right now? Yeah, you can. It felt good not seeing your face for like. It was only two days.

Yeah, but I just feel like I've been seeing you way too much, man. I mean, I love you, you, my God, but it's just like it was good to not see your face, and I see Pee's pasty face. God. Well, he didn't. Jesus. I love peas too.

That's my God. But it's just like, I needed a break from y'all. But it feels good to be back, though. Yeah. I kind of needed that too. Even like when we were going to the show in London, seeing that it was going to be like an hour drive from our hotel,

I didn't want a carpool. Yeah. I let everyone take the, you know what? I'll just eat this cost. I just want this car ride to not be around anyone. I just wanted to be alone, man. Just need to be alone for just an hour.

Just give me an hour to myself to just think and be quiet. But I think what it was, we've kind of went a little crazy in London the last two times. I think why you saw me so much was because we didn't go crazy. We recorded the entire time. Yeah, we had like, from the time we woke up to the time it was trying to go to sleep. Radio interviews. Yeah.

He was like, did you see any new sites? No. No. I saw BBC again. Yeah. Hey, yo. That was crazy. I didn't even...

That was crazy. I had to own that one. Yeah. Just got a... Can't even clean that up. Again was crazy. Once you go black, you don't go back. Yeah, don't get no policy.

Unless you're on shit and gigs. You're saying I went back? That's why I went to London? Yeah, round trip. It's BBC, though, right? Yeah. BBC... I didn't like say the wrong...

No, no. It's... All right. Because if I said the wrong thing and it was... Forget it was something else? No. When we're on our way to do Kenny All-Star show, which was great, outside of the BBC was...

someone holding a sign, screaming, you're all lizard people. And I was like, I'm home. Yeah. You're all microchipped. All your brains are microchipped. I was like, they're going to just let him stand here. I didn't even want to do the interview. I just wanted to stay outside with him.

Like, you have asked him. He was the interview. That was the interview we should have done. We should have talked to him. Okay, Rorya, so you're starting with the sunglasses on during the interview? All right. Well, they were clear lenses and I was really, really tired. Mm-hmm.

When I say Mall carried this entire interview, I said maybe three words. Yeah. I was exhausted at this point. Shout out the Kenny All-Star. Shout out to Janicea for us setting up everything while we're there. Shout out to Aisha. Shout out to our guy, DJ Ace. Shout out to suspect.

But yeah, it was a good time in London, man. We had a good time. Yeah, I wish we had like better war stories. But this was probably the most boring work-related for a day we've ever done. It's just a sign of getting older, man. We missed probably what would have been the best party ever while we were there. Had no idea until the next day. Oh, everyday people.

every day people was in London while we were there Oh yeah, I could have told you that. Had no idea. Yeah, but you didn't. I wasn't there. I wouldn't we got a promo. No one goes. No one goes.

I'm telling you, Julian is the kid that took his ball home when he didn't get picked. I'm telling you. I'll never not get picked, Maul. Don't be ridiculous. That's hilarious. You would never not be picked. Oh, my God. Captain or first pick, you choose.

Captain or first pick. What pick usually were you guys? For first, I'm not joking. I was always captain. You was playing with some trash dudes if you was always... Let's play ball. Let's go to a court anytime you want. You will always pick first.

We're always being the first big. We can play basketball. Who says? I feel like upstate New York has a lot of talent. You will always pick first. Like first one, two. Yeah. Depending on what, like, position was picked first.

So say if they went with a big first, you want to match a big, probably get something a little bigger. But, yeah. You realize that there's nobody, like, literally dudes that have played like, Division I basketball, can't even say what you just said. I was always picked first. No, they can. No, they cannot.

You could be amazing at basketball. Sometimes people just ain't going to pick you because they don't like you or like their friend is. They want to pick their friend. Like, say I'm always picked first. Yo, Julian's the go-to right there. Always picked first. Ironically, and this has to do with London because the professor followed me while we were in London. Changed my life.

I'm nervous to DM him. I haven't really figured out like how I was going to be like, yo, was good. Where have you been? Yeah. I see you out there. What does? What I used to get picked like, first. pretty early because I wore headbands and looked like the professor.

And then they'd pass me the ball and they'd be like, fuck. He's not the basketball. Why did I pick this? So I always be like, you know, pick me last. You wore headbands to play basketball? I wore headbands to the store. What are you talking about? AI was his, that was his guy.

Crazy? Well, we used to do that back in a day where I wore headband, the sweat head band. I wore a fingered sweat band. Yeah, but I can understand the girls win. It was kind of like a cute accessory. It was very cute. For Julie, for, for Rory to put on the headband with his fit and just walk outside, it's like, you're all right? Well, he was going to play ball, like.

No, I'm saying I'm going to wear it all the time. Yeah, he was just going to chill. Well, he probably had like the jerseys and like the. Oh, he was probably just a weird kid. You could throw that in there too. First of all, no, no, no. You were weird if you were not wearing headbands in that time. Yeah.

If you were my age in 2003, you were wearing a headband. All right, but I, what did you wear, though? Because if you wore a headband and just had like a polo shirt on. No, I didn't have like slacks on. No, I had a completely oversized South Pole shirt, I'm sure. That was nasty. You got to put a basketball jersey on. That's nasty.

Roy dressed like the little white kid from like Mike. But that's how they used to dress back in the day. All the boys I dated or I liked when I was in middle school and that's how they dressed. That's how everyone. So all it took, right, baby D? You just got to have a headband on it. Well, I was 11, 12. So yeah, it didn't take much.

Headband, big tea. Yeah. The cheapest era in hip hop, by the way. Just an oversized white tea. and a headman. That was a nasty like a nashy. $10 shirt.

Those like legitimate throwback jerseys were pretty expensive. No, I'm just me like the big white tea area. The jerseys could get up there. Big white T's were very affordable.

Go to foot locker, get 10 of them for like 10 bucks. Yeah. That was a great deal. And they used to get them in every color. Every time. All right. So London was cool.

How should I DM the professor now that we're here? You shouldn't DM the professor. Now that we're here. Okay. Yeah, just don't. He's a grown man. Just leave him alone. Should I DM to say shirts or skins?

That's gay. That's worse. Okay. But you should just... You're at Ditties. You would just be butt-ass. Remember that story? That slipped through the cracks years ago.

When Jamie Fox found the radio, and they were playing naked five-on-five at Diddy's house. I definitely missed that headline. You guys don't remember. And we're going to get to... Jack-War right. We talked about that, too. There were photos from it, too.

Like, there was content from it. But Diddy... The FAP was there. Like, there was a five-on-five nude game that Diddy used to run. They would call it freakball. You'll listen, man. And we're going to get to the whole Ditty shit, but...

This is like some shit Five on five But ass Which means someone had to box out If you're doing five on five Yeah like but Do we believe that? Like I know Daddy was in

No there's like photos Jamie Fox There's no photos of Jamie Fox But naked playing basketball With Denny, bro That shit would have been everywhere That wouldn't be a surprise to me right now Like that's not

Jaguar Wright did say that I've heard that for most people that they used to have Jaguar Wright Do you know the shit that Jaguar Wright is on the internet saying She says anything And there was offended

She was offended with with 50 said something about Puff. I'm like, now you offended? All the shit you've been saying for years and that offended you? Why is he kicking him down? What?

You sat here and said the crazy shit ever and you're mad at that. A lot of the crazy shit is coming out to be true though. For sure, but a lot of stuff that she said. A lot of shit that she said is not.

It's a coin talk. It's like, come on, man. Wait, I did not know that Jaguar Wright was mad at 50. She was mad at 50 because she was saying 50 was kicking puff while he was down type of shit. All right. I'm not going to start with hate.

Jaguar Wright, one of the best voices we've ever heard. Her entire platform is tearing people down. She's platformed to tear people down. I think she said Tank was sucking Jamie Fox's dick or something, I guess. She'd be wilding. But how Jaguar know that? We ain't never see Jaguar none of these events. The last time I saw Jaguar, she was singing background for Jay at the Fade the Black Show.

Great voice. But she'd be at all these events? I'm just saying, man. Like, could we just like, I don't. I get it though. Fuck it. Get your shit off. The National Inquirer.

I don't know how many magazines they sell it here, but they still on the show. There was one thing in my algorithm when she was trying to break up Talib Kuali's marriage. I was like, I'm too far in the rabbit hole now. Oh, wow. Like, I'm here for the Illuminati shit she says and all that cool. But like, now we've gotten down to Talib Kuali's marriage. I think I've overstayed my welcome in the Jaguar Wright Streets. Yeah, I'm going to check out on that note.

I'm going to freak all through the roots. I'm like, no, I'm cool. It's so much footage to her. If you go out on TikTok, bro. There is so much footage of Jaguar. It's like, it's a never-ending rabbit hole. She's polarizing. Like, she is very compelling when she speaks.

She'd be saying some wild shit, though. It's like, all she needs to do is hear somebody name and she got a story. 100%. Yeah. Like, now I was just a Roarie. Why do you think Nikki says stick the broom up his ass? That's what he does. Like, what?

Like, how do we get to it? I was just like, you know, I saw Roarie last night. We was hanging out. That's all she needs. to hear somebody name. No, if you don't know who Jaguar writing, please go look up her stuff and you will understand.

And it would definitely be at like an underground hip hop show that happened. She'll air your whole shit out. As soon as she had your name, she got a whole. It was at a Doom show and there was broomsticks everywhere. Yeah, like dirty broomsticks backstage. Broome and Doom is crazy. Broome and Doom.

Peace, that's the title. All right. Oh my God. Rest and peace to Doom. Absolutely. Where were we going at this point? Oh, London. I mean, it was cool.

I hung out with Peach for the most part. How was that? Was Peach hang out like? It's dark. It's everything you thought it would be. It's very dark. I spent a lot of time with Peach. That was probably the most revealing.

Jaguar Wright's going to tell you about it. Yeah. So Peach caught Pink Eye as soon as we landed. That's a fact. You did? And then proceeded to text us a picture of a Whippet can that he found on the street. I said, see, this is why you got Pinkout? Why are you picking up random Whippet cans off

the streets of London. No, you're leaving out, like, the funniest part of that text. The next morning when we land, did anyone else get pink eye question mark? Then left it alone. Never brought it up again. No context of that question. No, nothing. Just, you know, did anyone get pink eye? Everyone went, no. And then he said nothing. He was in the sauna. Peas, what girl? What girl you let farting your eye? Peege. What you had going on? It was on the pillow. He said it was on the pillow. A pink eye was on the pillow?

I hear that. It was on the pillow. Well, yes, it was a great show. Shout to everyone that came out to London. Yes, thank you, thank you. Especially the first time listeners that were there. There were people that had never heard our show. Oh, wow.

Yeah. There was one guy that didn't even listen to music. Yeah. He just went with his friend, didn't know who he was, doesn't listen to music. He was a CIA agent, for sure. Yeah. I've seen enough Mission Impostals.

You think the new people are going to check y'all out? I think that guy might be going through my tax report right now. That's what I feel like he was sent. For your taxes? He smelt like an IRS. All the way in London? Throw me off. Okay.

I mean, listen. See, they didn't ask for a work visa on the way back, right? I don't think you, you don't need the visa on the way back. You already work here. I don't think that's how it works. It's home. You're going home. You don't need the visa.

But while we're on the topic of London and podcasting, that entire shits and gigs thing was happening while we were out there, like, in real time. And I don't know if it was just jet lag or just... Yeah, so we had... Peer and not caring at all. When I got home, I caught up on all this shit. We had heard about it while we was there, but it was still kind of like, you know, happening in real time. And we didn't know. And people in London was telling us, like, yeah, you know, they're being canceled right now.

Do you remember how we initially found out? I don't know if they kept it in the Kenny All-Star show. So we're doing the show. I have my sunglasses on. They're like, oh, what type of podcast do you guys listen to out here? And mall went, shits and gigs. The whole room went, ooh. Really?

Oh, damn. That's so wack. Then I had to look at the timeline and be like, hey, maybe edit that out. That's so funny. It was just bad timing. Like, I really didn't know exactly what was happening. But. Yeah, that would have been the podcast.

I would have, before all of this happened, I would have told y'allel to, like, cross-pollinate with out there. No, I've cross-pollinate. Cross-potonate. Cross-podinate. Yeah. They were down. They were just scheduling.

Last time we were in London, we were going to set it up. They just weren't available. They were out of town. Oh, because you wasn't there, you didn't like... Well, I think we may have dodged a bullet. It's been a bad week to do it.

Yeah, that would have been honestly probably would have been the best week to do it. I mean, I would have defended black women. Well, we know, we know where you stand on the room. It would have been you versus the room. You impeached you. All right.

Here's my biggest issue with Andrew Schultz. It's not what he said. It's that he did this after. I don't know why you just did that, but that was crazy. at the BBC. Day 129. Why would you do that?

Because why would Shultz do it? No, but I don't know why. I couldn't get past what he was saying about black women because he just kept bouncing in his chair like it was the funniest thing. He always had Justin's seat though. That's like it's probably like a nervous twitch or something. But you can't, you can't, you can't, you can't control yourself type of thing. You're trying to contain your. Because it was the jokes were just that funny.

It was just off the wall. Everything was off the rails in there. Women, nests. Too funny. I just want to know if the guys from shits and gigs realize the name of their show is Shits and gigs. Like, what else are you supposed to do on a podcast

but kick the shit and laugh? No, but that's not, you're missing the point. They're supposed to be serious. Now, I will say, I did see what Andrew... They're supposed to be the mouthpiece of, you know, equality. Now, I did see what Andrew Schultz said. I did see the jokes he said. Now, I don't think his jokes call for him or anyone to be.

canceled. Well, I mean, give the people some backstory. So I'm not going to repeat them because clearly it offended. Well, Andrew Schultz made a reference to men losing their hair because they were being stressed out by their black girlfriends. Am I right? Demarest? Was that the gesture to the joke?

Well, there's more context. The more context was the black girlfriend effect. The black girlfriend effect is when people... Now, this is a new term. I've never heard this before. It started with like... Because you wouldn't hear it because all, because you're black so this is half a... Oh, so this is like outside of the black... I initially thought they were making fun of Charlemagne's network.

It's when black women date white guys. And all of a sudden, these white guys that were like lame or whatever, get a glow up. They get like the fade, a buzz cut or like get a nice beard all of a sudden. And all of a sudden they know how to dress. So Schultz was like,

okay, then what's the inverse of that? What's the black, like what happens when you date a black woman? And then then it became like, oh, they stress you out. You have to grow a beard because they'll slap you in the face.

Or like your hair starts falling out. It was that was the premise of it. Okay. Hilarious. Aren't you laughing? I mean, whatever. But I don't think, I don't think that, yeah, I don't want to do that. But I don't think that that calls for anybody to be canceled because of saying that.

That's just them getting canceled for not saying anything is crazy. Well, they were laughing along and. Yeah, they laughed. They were in shock. They were in shock. They were giggling. No, they were in shock. Remember about what they said?

Oh, now let's get to the apology. Because now that's where I think they deserve. That's where they deserve to be canceled because of that apology. It was so bad. They started referencing, yeah, it was like fight or flight while we were sitting there. It's like, don't do that. I get it now. And then to find out that that episode is old and like this is now, they're them putting out the apology now.

It's like two months later. I really thought this was all happening last week. No. So let me give y'all some background because this is off the rails. So the reason why this old episode is being bought up as evidence against them is because they went on poor minds. Shout out to Lex Andrea. They went on poor minds and they. said to Lex Andrea that they've been in Atlanta,

I don't know whether it was a couple hours, a couple days, whatever, and that they had seen no baddies in Atlanta. Now, if you've ever been to Atlanta and you like black women, you know that that is a red flag because they're everywhere. Ma, have you ever been to Atlanta and seen nobodies? No. The people working in the airport. They were talking to two of them.

Yeah, I don't, I don't, that part is weird. That makes no sense, right? Red flag. Even if you, but here's the thing, even if you say you don't, don't date black women, right? Your preference, whatever. You can still see a woman and say, damn, she's bad.

You may not want to date her because that's not your type of woman. Or racist. But she's a beautiful, you can't say that there's no bad women in, that is the craziest shit I think I've ever heard. There's no bad women in Atlanta? So I didn't. What does that even mean?

See that episode? Were they saying it like just for conversational starter? No, no, he meant it. By the way, they also said that they were baddies in Seattle, though. Ooh, that's where all the heroin Houser at. All right. Now, okay.

I like these. Things are adding up a big. I like these gentlemen. Seattle is crazy. Much success to them, cool. But now we might have to get these niggas out of here. You can't say there's no baddies in Atlanta.

We did find a couple in Seattle though, actually. They were from Vancouver though. Ah, that's right. Never mind. Like, where were you at in Seattle, where you saw baddies, but in Atlanta you didn't see any.

I just don't understand. And I'm not saying that there aren't baddies in Seattle. Oh, no. It's beautiful in Minnesota. in Seattle. For sure. Like, there's no way Sir Mix-A-Lot would come up with those genius records if he wasn't looking at Batties. Exactly.

But to them be like, nah, not on Atlanta. Have you been to Starbucks? Yeah, that's a little weird. Have you seen Frasier? Now, their apology, I can understand people being mad at because it's like, all right, now y'all talk about fight or flight and, you know, we just wanted to get out of there. And, you know, it's like, cut the shit, man. cut the shit.

You niggas was not going to post this apology if this backlash didn't. And that's the problem I have with people posting an apology videos. Which is why they never should have posted one. Exactly. Because this is disingenuous. It's like it's not real.

You don't mean it. You only posting this because you feel like this is damage control. And people on your team are telling you like, yo, the internet is up in arms about this Schultz episode and we have to do something. If they were going to say something, they could have been like, listen, it was jokes. just staying on the side of it was jokes now if you were offended it wasn't intended to be you know an offensive thing

it's just guys shits and gigs having a conversation cracking jokes literally called shits and gags okay so this is the thing this is the reason why this is such a big deal right because men on podcast has been saying disparaging shit about black women for since podcasts have existed women on podcasts have been saying disparaging shit about okay you my point men on podcast have been saying disparaging shit about it. My point men on podcast have been saying and disparage and shit about black women, that's nothing new. The issue is who their fan base is. Shits and gigs is the one podcast that when we, all the women sit up here and say,

take the mics away, burn the mics, burn the mics, burn down B&H, everybody always says, well, from what I know with black women, because I'm one of them, except for the two in-its. We always say, except for the two-in-its. Y'all just like their accent. No, I actually hate people with that accent. I told y'all that.

I hate that a fucking accent. Isn't that? I hate that accent. It has nothing to do with that. It's just they pander. They've always pandered outside of like, their old old episodes. Once black women started liking them, they started pandering and they were like the cool, like non-toxic, like two men on podcast. That's what they got known for. So now all

of this is coming out and it's spitting on their image. If you two said that or if another podcast said that, it wouldn't be such a big deal. But being that it's them and who their main fanbases, the majority of their fan base is black women. Yeah, they had to apologize. Now granted, they should have hired a PR agent to write a better apology. Oh, they should have just been because that one was awful, but they should have apologized. Or they should have just been honest in their apology. You don't need to hire a PR person to be honest. Just be honest.

Well, there was jokes. We were laughing. No, it can't always be honest, ma'am. You don't think they were being honest with the fight or flight in that moment? Nothing about their faces said they were ready to run out of it. No. Well, the thing that in Schultz joked throughout, so on the most recent episode of Flagrant, they played their apology and Schultz tore it apart and, like, just kind of, they did a reaction to it.

As he should. The big, the main thing he did say, though, is said, hey, by the way, after we recorded, they did have a few edits and things they wanted to remove from the episode. This was not one of them. Exactly. So you knew he was just going to shoot yourself in the foot. If you were going to try to shit on Schultz and they were planning on just blaming him for that whole situation, he's like, well, fuck you guys. You never wanted to edit this out in the first place. You guys were okay with it the entire time.

And that's the problem with the apology is that you can tell, like, they are not being honest about how they felt. they were not in fight or flight mode. It wasn't none of that. Like, it's just like... Fight or flight is so dramatic. You could have just said it was a nervous laugh. Like, I just laughed. Like, it was a nervous laugh.

Because people had that same critique, for example, with Will Smith, where they said, well, Will Smith laughed at Chris Rock's joke before Jada gave him a look. And I'm like, no, he probably laughed at it out of... Some people just laugh automatically when they know that somebody's telling a joke and don't really internalize it.

And then five seconds later, you're like, wait, what the fuck did you just say? You could have said that. But fight or flight, you were not in fighter flight. You could have just said it was a nervous giggle or something like that. I'm not excusing their laughter to Schultz's jokes, but I will ask, what were they supposed to do in that time? Like, stop Schultz and be like, no, but you can, it's a way to laugh and be like, yo, relax. That's a little, maybe make a joke about white women to balance it out.

Yeah, okay. Don't violate the black. Like, you could have still made it funny and not made it uncomfortable. Yeah. They could even say, yeah, sometimes the sisters stress us out, but we love them. It's something like that. Or like I can tell why your mustache you don't like women. Yeah.

There you go. See, that type of shit. You ate. But this right here, like first off the dome. First of. That's what he does. Twice he did. Seven plus one.

Please stop. How you uneat? Twice. He threw up. That's not funny. You're not funny. You're regurgitated. I find it so funny.

No, it's nasty that you doing it. Never. Ignore me. Yeah, they're idiots. But this is this. Get off with that. No, they are. They made a mistake.

No, they made another mistake. when they put that apology. The mistake is the apology. Yes. That's the mistake. The main mistake is saying in nobody's in Atlanta. That was the mistake

because you told on yourself. You told on yourself. Yeah, I'm with you on that. You told on yourself. Yeah, I mean, they might be time to get them out of here with that comment. But this is the thing. And people are like, oh, they don't deserve

to be canceled for jokes. What people need to understand is not everything is them being canceled. But when you have a black woman fan base and they feel like black women are not your preference and they don't longer want to listen to you, they have that right.

don't piss off your fan base. That's not you being canceled. Nobody's saying to take their deal away and not have them be able to podcast. They're just saying, oh, with all of these things combined, I don't like the comments that you've been okay with going around about black women. I'm a black woman that listen to your podcast.

I will remove myself from your Patreon and giving you money because you think it's funny when white men who don't date black women make jokes about us, I'm just going to remove my money and my support. That's not canceling. That's not canceling. Actually, that's the truest form of canceling. Yeah, you can't get some sure.

But that's not calling for a mask canceling. Of course it's like, I don't fucks. Can't be mad at that. No, you can't be mad at it. But you said you liked them because they panored to black women. But isn't that like, isn't that, do you prefer that? Like, a pander? I don't watch that.

Not you particularly, but I'm saying like if they have a fan base that is black women and we're aware that they just pander towards what black women want to hear, isn't that more offensive? I find that more offensive. Don't just tell me what I want to hear and then profit off it. It's a pander now because everything's coming out that's kind of pointing. I can't speak for facts. I don't know them.

It's pointing to, oh, you don't actually like black women. That's what it's pointing to, right? So before, people don't know that it's a pander. You don't know that it's a pander because it doesn't appear to be a pander. Under the assumption that it was genuine. And then all of these things stack up and it's like, oh, it's looking a little funny in the light. But that's their supporters. I'm not saying this about them, but we've seen that the pander potters and get exposed

for who they really are. Typically, when someone is overly pandering, they're probably a piece of shit. and they're covering up for the nasty things that they've done. Yeah. As far as Andrew Shultz, the people who are saying that those were jokes and that there was nothing wrong with the joke. Let me say this. And I'm standing on this and I don't give a fuck who don't like it.

There's a big bag of business you standing on? You are married to a white woman. Why? We ain't never seen you with no sister. So the issue when you're sitting- I talk like silly in a color purple. The issue, the issue. Kind of like Kamala.

I was not to say it. The issue when your- The issue when you sitting next to two black men talking shit about black women when you don't date black women and we've never seen you with a black woman is where are you getting these talking points from? Who's telling you this stuff about black women? So you're saying Charlemagne told him. That's exactly what I was going to say. Did Charlemagne address this? At the end of it?

I don't know. I don't know. Just keep your mouth shut about stereotypes about black women. Keep your mouth shut about stereotypes about black women when it. comes to them being just so stressful and this angry black woman trope when you don't even date black women. You don't even date black women.

You don't know shit about what they're like in a relationship because you don't date them. Your wife is your wife. So keep black women out your mouth. And you can't get mad when people have a issue with that. And other people can't get mad. Four, four, four. I'm sorry, dad.

When other people, you can't get mad when other people are looking at you like, yo, you two are sitting next to this white man that doesn't date black women and listening to him make disparage your comments about black women. This one over here, don't date fully black women. He's not going to sit next to me and disrespectfully black women.

You heard the start of the episode. I said I love black. I was a beginning of episode. I'm not going to allow him to do that. Well, that was. If he want to complain about how black women stress him out, he can do that. But that's about specific women. No, he can't.

No, I'm sitting here. You think he could sit here and say what counts? I am not racist whatsoever, but I am misogynistic. So I will complain about women. Period. No, he don't care about it. Just women. Yeah, my hate's rooted in women.

Don't get a misconstrued. It's not black women. It's nothing to misconstrued, Julie. It's just all women. You don't date black. No, but like, like Rory, we just don't like women. But like Rory, Rory dates black women. You don't.

I have. I just don't make it a public. I don't make it a fucking fetish. Yeah, thanks. So why do you make all your white women public? I don't make anything public. You guys bring them up. Yeah.

Because you told us about it. You brought them. First of all, there's only one girl that's been brought up on this show and it's fucking coffee girl in that bitch from New Year's. Don't do that. Don't see, why is it that bitch now? Don't do that. Remember, I hate women.

Yeah, but I don't like that. Don't do that, don't do that. Don't do that. I'm in flutter. But my point was, y'all can get these comments off because the majority of your listenership isn't black women.

There's like 17 of them that listen to this podcast. Like, that's not sure listening. One of them right here. We do. We do. We do. We do.

We do. We do. They're just as toxic as us, though. That's all. That's why they listen to us. And I don't think they understand context, too. Well, that's, so that's my problem. Like that's my criticism of this whole thing with them is, okay, so it was an episode of flagrant.

So you're seeing Schultz audience is listening to it. And I would imagine diehard fans of shits and gigs are also listening to it. For two months, this was out. Not a problem. Wasn't a problem. No problem. And then someone clipped the right thing. It found the right person.

And now all of a sudden it's like a shitstorm of like, cancel these motherfucking. It's like, okay. Well, now we're not serving their audit. Like people like the conversation we just had. People that get us, understand us, listen to the show, have no. beef or problems with anything that we usually say. It's when shit gets clipped out of context and then we see

like this shit storm of like, wow, that's fucked up. Why would you ever say that about this group of people? Well, it's like, well, that wasn't meant for you to see. It's within the context of our audience. I wasn't meant to be at KKK meetings. They still affected me. That's different. That's way different. Jerry Jones was just checking out the rally.

You see that Jerry Jones clip that just went out? That's going to be on the list too. God, damn. We have a lot to get to. Maul, did you see that? I saw the headline. I read the clip, but I didn't. With Jamie Fox?

Talk about BBC. Talk about Jamie Fox together, naked people. Yeah, why Jamie always around some, anyway? We'll get to that. All right, well, you guys ran shits and gigs off the internet. You guys ran Deani off the internet. You guys ran What's the Dirt off the internet. The entire time we're in London, everyone was getting canceled.

I'm glad we took that trip. Who knows what we would have said in domestic territory? I just, I had a ball. I laughed at all of that shit. Why y'all did that to What's the Dirt? Is that too nerdy for you guys? Do you guys know what's the dirt? No, I do not know who that...

You probably have seen the videos, though. During the Kendrick and Drake Battle, he got really popular because he was doing like lyric breakdowns, but in a very, very, very, very detailed way. His 616 one was crazy. Everyone praised it. Then he did one for Family Matters, and all of the Kendrick fans lost their fucking minds,

and the whole timeline shifted on him. But there was another YouTuber Justin Hunt. He used to work at HipopDX as his own platform on YouTube. That's great. they started going back and forth and they started clipping each other's responses and Justin was saying in his response after what's the dirt counted

how many times Drake said the N word in Family Matters. He said it was 37 and that was his age and that's the years he's been black. Like that's how deep he was doing the breakdowns. And Justin Hunt was naturally saying like dogs so you were in your basement counting how many times Drake said the N word? This white guy in Canada like,

that's not a little weird to you? So what's the dirt? Who, again, I think is a great YouTuber, has never had backlash before. So he doesn't know how to deal with it, and he crashed the fuck out. So he took that clip of Justin Hunt when he said,

you said the N-word 37 times. I don't even use the N-word, and I'm a black man. And then what's the dirt said? I can tell. And the timeline lost it. And then he called him Carlton, and it just, they ran more for you.

Oh, he doubled down? He was saying, I can tell you're a black man? He's a black nerd. So he's like, I can tell you having you. I can tell you don't use the N-word. word, which is like a wild thing as a white man to say to a black guy. That's sick. That's fucking insane. Was he lying on? All right. My bad. My bad. Yo, I'm just saying. I'm here to pie. I've been on

for two weeks. My shit. I'm here to pie. If I said to you, y'all, I could tell you don't use the N-word. That's not fucking nuts. It is nuts. I didn't say he wasn't nuts. So what's I have never seen a timeline shift the way they did with what's the dirt. Like it shifted to the point that he put out an apology yesterday that of course I sat and watched because I was at the edge of my seat with all this nerdy beef because I'm a nerd. We know. He's, he's, he's getting off YouTube. He's retiring. What's the dirt? He built an amazing platform. And he's like, no, I think I'm cool. I'm done now. I'm going to retire. I hate when people do that. It's so pussy. He brought up his therapist and mental health and. Yeah, but why are you? It's so pussy. I mean,

I hate what you? But why are you getting off YouTube, though? Like, just deal with the situation and be like, Yeah, and he made an apology video. That's what I'm talking about. The video on YouTube is called My Sincere Apology to Justin Hunt. 71,000 views two days ago. Oh, my God. You're not going to retire before that money kicks in.

Hell. You're going to monetize that shit first. Yeah, if you really mean to demonetize it. Yeah, donate all your money. Yeah, donate it to charity. Donate all your money to charity. And Justin has a great platform as well and it's a great writer, but I just did not expect

that the YouTube Wars would go this way. Like, we're in a whole new era. This is like running people off YouTube When all they do is lyric breakdowns Yeah How did you even get in a back and forth with somebody? But this is weird things get weird You make YouTube videos

This is this and this is why YouTube gets weird Because then you have these guys that Build these platforms like you said Off of breaking down songs and lyrics and things like that And then they get caught up And shit like I can tell That you don't use the N word

But even then is that Is that call for somebody to completely No Disappear and cancel their chance? I don't know. There is a bit more context to it, though. What Justin's point also was, he even, like, damn near did a 23 and me on Drake's dad

and was, like, trying to prove to the world that Drake was a black man. And to Justin's point, it came off kind of fucking weird. Like, this is a little odd that you are doing three-hour videos trying to explain to us that Drake is actually a black man and has the same plight that Kendrick's family did. And it got, like, a little too far from just, breaking down rap lyrics.

A little obsessive. And because he's so good at what he does, when he got into that realm, he went even further. Because all he does is research in his basement. So if you just give him the idea that I could defend Drake's blackness, we're going to get 23Mee reports

about his father's family and where they come from in the deep south. Yeah, that's weird. I see what Justin was saying. Like, all right, man, that's weird. I loved what you were doing. This is getting odd at this point. Now you're counting N-words.

Like, what are we doing? This isn't fun rap shit. anymore. Yeah, that's not see, I understand. That's weird, obsessive behavior. But a lot of these guys, they obsess over whatever's current in the culture. And they build a platform. Really talented at doing it. Yeah. I have not seen better lyric breakdowns in my entire life than what, what's the dirt did. Some of the breakdowns have been a reach, though. Oh, for sure. They go way far. I like, I don't. Because it's like, I promise you, Kendrick didn't think about that when you wrote that bar. And neither did Jerry. I promise you. Neither one of the niggas thought about anything

that Drake made sure there was 37 words in family maps? I can guarantee you. No, but he's 37. No, no, I get it. And he's all 37 years. I got it. Which is also crazy because what's the dirt?

What are you trying to say about Drake for his 37 years? He's that word? Now I see what Justin was getting at. Yeah, it's just, things get a little bit. He didn't say, I'm a black man 37 times. That'd be a shitty song. Wasn't there a song like that? Peach said that's logic.

Yo, Peach, please. That's the logic, new logic. Don't do that. We like that. We love logic. Can y'all not do nothing cancelable, please? Shit, who's canceled really, though? Please, don't even say that because that's her famous last words.

Please knock on somebody, but would, please. What would you be? Don't fucking piss me off, yo. Yo, what's that with you today? He gay today. I don't know what the fuck is going on. You guys said Schultz did it because it's a tick, so I can't have a tick. No, we said Schultz.

I have Lyme disease. Trying to. That's crazy. That's crazy to just throw out the thing. It went over your head. It's cool. I'll get back to the dirt to break down Lyme disease and how you get it. It's from ticks.

You know Lyme disease started in Connecticut. Why do you know that? How does your brain retain? I just learn random things. I don't know. It's from Lyme disease. Oh, there's a town called Lyme? Yeah, it's named after where it originated.

Okay. Yeah. So why we couldn't name COVID? Never mind. All right. It is what it is. See, you good? I'm chilling.

Are you good? I'm just, I'm chilling. I'm good. I'm chilling. I'm here. What are you trying to say? No, nothing. Oh, damn.

Wow. I mean, Diddy. I mean, they tried. Diddy. Jerry Jones. Jamie Fox. What was Jerry Jones doing at that football game talking about eight inch dicks? Wait, what?

Before we do, didy, let's do. Yeah, let's just let's, I'm not gay today. They are. Let's tease a bit, pause. So Jamie Fox was at, what, what did this clip come from. He was at a game with Jerry Jones or something. And he was filming himself. And in the back, you can hear Jerry Jones say this. He cut that video. Is Jamie Fox's his face? So the full quote, because the audio's pretty shitty. Yeah. He's going down his stats like a, you know, a 2K creative player.

5.9.5.210, 4, 4.1, his 40 time. 9 and 3 inch hands. And then he takes like a half pause and just continues on eight and a half inch dick. It's Jamie Fox's face. And then Jamie just immediately cuts the video. Yeah, because what else you're going to do right there? Cut the feed, man. Like, Jamie just turned out right now. You said that on my live. Like, you could have went live and said that.

Also, imagine just being in those stands. Like, you always overhear combos other people are having at sporting events. Imagine Jamie Fox and Jerry Jones are behind you. Like, what the fuck did you do so? And then it's even crazy because Jerry owns a team, which means he has access to the locker room. So it's like, wait, how do you know that? How you got those numbers?

We don't even know who he was talking about, by the way. Yeah. Yeah, Jesus. I thought, oh, he got some about himself? Isn't it kind of like Donald... What? Jerry was just, he was hitting on Jamie, just giving him his stats. No, but he wasn't talking to Jamie. He was talking to somebody else above.

They were standing, like, directly above James. No, he was talking about someone. That's his dating profile. He probably was talking about, all we got to do is go to the Leroster. To Lerobo. Find out who's five, nine and a half? 210. Oh, no, you know the six.

Four or four, who runs a four or one? 4-4-1? See, I can't get canceled, but you know, black Twitter, the women on black Twitter probably found his, his profile already.

Oh, yeah, yeah. You know, they dug that up. Because black women are known for gold-digger, right? Yeah. I mean... Not the white women that always end up with the players.

Black women are named for gold-digger, right? Yeah, now, go sit your ass in the corner with shit to get you. I'm just saying, them, too. All of most women are gold diggers. I mean, it is what it is.

Well, if they were just looking for love and those are some stats that they... On Jerry, on Jerry... I would like to know. I would like to know if the Nick will go run a 4-4-1. Oh, it's the 4-4-1 part, right?

Yeah. Gotcha. Okay. I would like to know if he can run the 4-4-1. No woman has ever cared about it. Imagine me and a girl. I was like, well, she goes, what's your 40-time? Who cares about it?

Who asks that type of question? Angel Reese? Because, well, yeah, she probably. We need to know how fast you could get out. Like, if some shit go wrong, I need to know how fast we could get out of there. If I'm somewhere and I got to get out of there in 4-4-1, I should have never been. it in the first place. For the fact that Jerry

is openly comfortable talking about the size of potential recruiters and players dicks, like what else does that's the thing like the narrative now is like he talks about these guys like their livestock. Like he talks like a slave. Jerry Jones, no. Come on. An owner of an NFL team.

He was joking. Yeah, come on. They don't, they don't view their players. It was just shits and gigs. That's all that was. I mean, I guess the question to really ask, even if he has access to the locker room, like, you think he just, just gave it a quick eye and new? being of the eyeball

how did you like how'd you eyeball that and know it he's an eight and a half like not even eight like he went to the point five eyeball the eight ball and knowing that is over that's an expert that's crazy

I mean he has to know I mean he got to know his investment yeah wasn't hard hold on wait soft eight and a half is that's awesome well Jamie cut the camera he's gonna get to the girth but I love this

it's all the memes it's like Jerry Jones checking his players it's like Jerry Jones checking his play there's some gay military shit you know they are wait would you know how they are I thought you couldn't fight if you were gay

Wait, he's just going down the line doing that What is that? Well, you can't pull something like that on the screen And not have context to it though. What is this? I don't know, man, it's just... It's Jerry Jones at the time of it. And then why did he look him in his eyes?

That's he did. This is... Why do you stay at him? This is weird. But this is like... Lecy more gloves. Me at 2.30 at the club. That's what you be doing at...

All right, day. All right. C. C. C. See? DeMaris around some Nike texts. That's crazy. Nike texts is wild. Jokes, we're joking.

Har-har. The great Nike tech, specifically. Shits and gigs. Shits and gigs. It's all shits and gigs. That's the name of the episode. It's all it is. Shit and gig. There you go.

Oh, my God, bro. Oh, man. How they're running everyone off the timeline except for Jerry Jones is insane to me. Is he on the timeline? Like, not the like, because he's going to die soon, but I mean, like, the Twitter time. Damn, you getting Jerry out of here?

I'm sorry. Packing him right up, huh? Send him to the upper room. Good. I don't know, man. Jerry might be a lizard. He might be 200 years old. Definitely.

I believe that. Or a vampire. You can't be in a photo like that and it's such a... He looked old in that photo. Yeah, during the Civil Rights Movement and now you own it. And if that doesn't... His excuse for that. You know how many lives that is that he's lived?

You know how crazy that is? Think about that. He was in that photo. He was just checking out what was going on, man. It's all going on over here. Yeah, but the fact that he was there What y'all got going on? Yeah.

Was it free food? Yeah. He was born in 40. Yo, you think they have free food? I like the hang-ins? Yeah, you think they do like an after? Who hungry during that? All right.

White people. I mean, I've never thought about it, but I assume they probably like have some food. Refreshments? It's probably not good. Probably. Probably. Do you think they're not going to have a beer during that? You think they had a concession stand during the lynchings? like any had to pay

you think you had to pay for parking you know what get there early so we could get a good I'm it's like not gonna shit's and get me I think that's fucking appalling what snack with you have I don't think you should make those type of jokes

personally yo you should run personally it's fight a flight are you gonna fight or you throw you didn't get up and run out of here yet like run let me see your 40th they didn't fight or fight well there's fun

Y'all do know that. So there's fight, flight, freeze, and fawn. It looked like they were fawning over to this. Fawn. So like a group of baby deer? Yes. But a fawn is one baby deer, I think. No, that's a doe, well, a female deer.

Oh, really? No, you're right. You're right. I know. I know. So, no, fawn is the reaction of like, let's say a man ran up to me with a gun. And I was like, oh my God, I'm so sorry. Like, you can have whatever, like, do you want this?

Like, do you want my purse? Do you want my phone? Like, you can have whatever? I'm a fawner. That's a fawner. I'm the Fonzi. You start offering your goods. If someone pulls a gun, I'm going to be Fonzie right away.

By definition. Take everything you want. Have it all. Fonsworth Bentley. It's the Fawn, by definition, it's the body's attempt to please someone to avoid conflict. Never mind. I'm not.

Well, pleasing them, meaning like, take my shit. Yeah, like, do whatever you want. Not a ditty way, yeah. Shoot me, like, I'll give you a handy. Yo. That's what I thought. Or it just spits on his hand.

Tell us somebody like, go shoot. I'll go. Jerk you off. You don't remember in Sopranos when Shorty did that? When they were about to kill her, she's like, I'll suck y'all dicks. Yeah. What did they do?

Imagine going down the line, sucking all the dicks and they still blow your top off off. I was going to say, you're still going to die. You blew my top down. I'm going to blow your soul. After the post nut clarity, I'm still going to kill you. That would make me want to kill you more. If it's trash. The clarity, like, just the clarity after coming.

You're like, oh, yeah, that's what I was going to do. To shoot her. Yeah, Lorraine from Sopranos told Phil, I'll suck your dick. Did she live? No, they tricked her. They put a phone book in front of her to shoot her and then said next time they'll not be a next time.

They eventually murdered her. It was the next time. Yeah. Oh, so there was a next door. The dick sucking got her out of here, though. No, she didn't suck any dicks. Okay. But the promise of said dick suck got her out of here.

Actually, now I think about it, she did die butt-ass naked the second time. out the shower. Yeah, because you got to give a head butt naked. You got to take what you do. You know that. Everybody knows that. I know.

Even Jerry Jones knows that. Yeah, come on. Yeah. Just eyeing the 8.5 is crazy. And just with a cadence, knew it right off rip. Like, eight and a half right there. Damn. Yo.

You know, four plus four equals. I'm better to make that. Ooh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh.

Oh. One, all right, never mind. I'm about the mega name of myself. What's the dirt? We'll do the breakdown. All right. Puff, should we just cold open here? Yeah, so since we've been in London, a lot has unfolded.

The case was sealed, but now it has been unsealed. So we now know all of the charges that Diddy is facing. So it's racketeering conspiracy, sex trafficking, and transportation to engage in prostitution. And then obviously all of the things came out of. them finding a thousand bottles of baby oil a bunch of bottles of lube which is not illegal to possess no nothing you know I just don't know

why you need a thousand I'm just raised some eyebrows though yeah I don't know why I've never seen anybody finish one bottle of baby oil we all hoarded during the pandemic I don't yeah I don't I mean still baby oil whatever whatever I mean I get it it it's you know puff puff is a nasty fuck

we knew that I'm more curious where this is going to go. I think Puff is probably one of the most selfish people that we've seen in the music industry. I think he'll take a deal in a heartbeat. I think he'll snitch on anyone to get out of this. I think he'll start just telling them shit they're not even asking for.

I think Puff is singing as we are talking right now. So you think getting out's a possibility, though? Because that's where I'm... Is that a thing? Can he get out? I don't know if he can. So then... I think he's going to do something. sometime for sure. I think he's going to do

some jail time. It's not going to be something where he just cooperates and, you know, give some names and, you know, he'll be let out free time served. Like, this won't be, I don't think this is going that right. I do think he can save itself some years

and not do as much time. Like, he won't do, I don't think he will do the max that this case carries. Believe the max is life. Yeah, I don't think he'll get sentenced to that. But I mean, they throw that on it. I think we'll see Puff serve probably 10 years. I think so.

I think we'll probably see something like 10 years, 10 to 15 years. But either way, what does this mean, though? What does this mean? Because I think we're going to hear some disturbing things about some people that we never thought we would hear. I think we're going to see some disturbing things from people that we never thought we would see. A lot of things that people have probably denied throughout the year. years are going to come to light and be proven to be true throughout all of this.

So what does that mean for, I guess, you know, hate to use the word, but what does that mean for the culture moving forward when you see some of the people that we've championed and praised and supported for so long now probably doing some disgusting, disturbing things and listen to it and watch it play out in the court of law? Well, I mean, when the raid happened at the was the end of March, early April in Miami and L.A. We did have that discussion, if you guys remember, of, okay, are the Fed's rating to get footage to make sure it doesn't see the light of day? Or are they doing this to actually arrest Puff?

Are they aware that maybe there's certain people that are on camera and we need to seize all of this? I'm still kind of on that side. I don't know if we're going to get the reveal that, we all think we're going to get. What do you mean? Which would be what? What's that?

The amount of names that we know Puff to be around, and of course I've hated to even watch anyone that took a picture with Puff. Now on Twitter is considered a sex trafficker of children. They were like, oh, there's tapes of Obama on there. No, there's not. There's not. Obama's not getting freaky in Miami with Puff and his house. Yeah, that's not happening.

It didn't happen. But there are a lot of names in the music industry that I think were. That are very powerful people outside of music. I don't want to throw this on his jacket, but the number one name, Clive Davis, who groom Puff, and I'm not even trying to make a joke when say Groom, but we know Clive Davis was really who put Puff on

and started this entire thing. I don't think we're going to get the reveal that we think, even if it actually happened. Yeah, I think people have been... You don't think it's going to be any video footage of... Nope. Nope. Okay. I'm going to play the other side.

I'm going to play the other side. Where I'm even confused, too, is the charge he has, and correct me if I'm wrong because we get so much fake information, I never know what's real or fake. Did they not also seize AR-15s that had serial numbers scratched out? Three of them. Three AR-

Where the fuck is their charges on that? Is that in the racketeering? Yeah. The charges don't even make sense to the stuff that we know there's evidence of puff doing. And there's no drug charges. Yeah, so many fucking drugs.

Yeah, but I don't think he was selling drugs. He was using. So. But his possession. So with all that said, I think... They didn't catch him with drugs, though. When they seized the homes, didn't they find a bunch of fucking shit? It was 50 people.

I live in the house. I don't know if they found drugs. But it's in a possession, but then after a certain point, once you cross a certain amount, isn't it possession with intent to distribute? Isn't that what they... Yeah, but I mean, they arrested his quote-unquote drug dealer who he pled out in like two seconds. Oh, that's the one that's... You saw him out of the kid from Syracuse.

He got a double platinum EP out there. They caught him on the term. He sung on the tarmac. Whatever happened. You know how they do the video? I'm dripping like hot sauce. I don't remember if they did that. Please.

They hung the mic right there on the tarmac for me. I'm driving like hot socks. They pulled up in them SUVs. He knew it. He started talking like six nights. Did you also know Cardi B as a blood? Sir, we didn't ask you that. He for sure.

That he's so weird singing his ass off. No, he didn't already. He played out. But to me, it's only the only reason why I'm on the other side of that is because when they raided his house and they went and got whatever, they got collected the evidence, for them to then arrest him in New York after he was already in New York and was going to go to the courthouse, that's telling. Because now it's like, okay, if he finds out that we have certain pieces of evidence that he didn't think we had or that he might, he thought that he had gotten rid of, he might flee. because he knows that there's no getting away from that. For sure.

And he has the money. He has the resources to disappear and go to a remote island and live out the rest of his life. So for them to pick him up when he was already due to turn himself in any way. And it wasn't like he was hiding. He was on Instagram taking pictures, videos with everybody. So clearly he was letting me know I am, which is probably part of it too. But if it's smart, he probably was doing that and being outside with the people knowing that these things will be posted and that the feds will see,

I'm in New York, I'm not hiding, I'm not running, I'm not trying to go nowhere, I'm here. But for them to then pick him up in his hotel lobby, that's when you got to start question. Like, why did they go arrest him if he was already going to go to court and turn himself? Because he may have been turning himself in for a completely different case and completely different charges. Well, this is what I'm saying. So I think whatever they got, it was something that's so, you know, crazy. They're like, oh, no, we got to go get him, pick him up right now. And then they denied his bail

Offing him $50 million But the feds don't care about money But the fact that it was guns With serial number scratched off I think that's why his bail was probably You're billionaire and you live in Florida Go buy a fucking illegal AR It's doing illegal shit with it

Why would you want it to be connected to you? True I mean I want to give you pushback But in the Cassie paperwork She said he was loading up because Shug was at a diner, like recently. So, yeah, Demaris may have a point there.

And then what is it going to, what is it? Like, he was ready to go kill Shug at a diner. What are you doing? What happens now when we hear Cassie take the stand? Because she will take the stand. I think she has to take the stand. I don't think she can. Oh, well, if it's criminal, I don't know what was in their settlement.

I don't know if she's allowed to speak the name Sean Combs, period. No, none of those things are, those are null and void now. That doesn't matter. That shit doesn't matter. I'm not, I'm, I'm, I'm, I don't know that shit. That shit is, that shit is out of here. That doesn't mean, you see that. She just can't talk about that case specifically.

You see that headline? United States versus Sean. It was federal. They don't give a fuck about none of that indiation. That means nothing. This is the United States. So you think Cassie will be subpoenaed. Like, she'll have to go.

Absolutely. Okay. Absolutely. Even if she hadn't done what she did, she was his partner for so many years. She was going to get subpoenaed anyway. Absolutely. Again, I don't know if this even goes to trial where anyone would have to take the stand. Do you think Puff is going to go to trial for that?

I can't see him pleading guilty to this shit, man. I can see, I can see him. I think he's taking them all away. I think Puff's going to take this shit all the way. I think he's taking it to trial. I think his lawyers are advising him to take a deal. I don't know, man. I can't see him pleading guilty to none of this shit.

Why? I just don't see it. I don't see Pup standing up there and saying, I plead guilty to this, this, this, this and this. But you felt that same way about? Or? I mean, a bunch of things. Ego and then he probably like, yo, like I feel like I could beat this shit. So again, there's things that I think that Puff doesn't want to come out, doesn't want revealed, that obviously now are going to be all, everything's going to come up.

Well, then I guess to your point of him taking it to trial, I think that's a point why he wouldn't. Because everything will be revealed if there's not a plea deal. Mm-hmm. If they go to trial, it's going to get crazy. Yeah, but I just don't know if Puff is going to take that and just go sit down. for 10, 15 years. Because that's the mandatory minimum. I just don't know if Puff is going to do that, man.

I don't know if he's going to go sit down like that, just pleading out and saying, yo, give me 10, 15 years. I just don't know if he's going to do that. I think he's going to fight for his freedom. I think he's going to fight for his name. I think he's going to fight to clear his name. Now, we all know when the feds come get you,

we know what their success rate is. When they come get you, the case is already, this is done. What side of this do you want to end up on? What does Puff's future even look like? Let's say Puff, let's go with the conspiracy. He snitches and tells on everyone. The whole music business gets exposed.

He does two years because he told on everyone. Does Puff going to witness protection? No. Like what happens at that point? Nothing. That's why I'm so confused about where this case is going to go. The same thing that just happened two weeks ago. The same shit that just happened two weeks ago.

People are going to be outside in New York. People come on to take pictures with them. They don't want to fucking post themselves on Instagram with them. Like, people don't, we have to understand that the things that we think people care about and would really upset and frustrate people, a lot of people don't care because, you know what, he didn't do it to me. It didn't happen to me. I'm not one of those victims.

That's just the mentality that people take on a lot of things these days. He didn't do that to me. A lot of people are saying, why are y'all, why are y'all committing? puff to the knife or to the steak for just being freaky. People are like literally just boiling it. This is what I'm saying. This is what I'm saying. So when you say, oh, if he snitch and he do this, he do that, where is he going to do?

Nothing. He's going to be doing the same shit he was just doing. We just saw it. We just saw it. We just saw it last week, two weeks ago, him walking around and we like, oh, like, did y'all not know the shit he's facing? Did we not just see the Cassie tape? And he lied because remember before the Cassie tape came out.

Never happened. He posted some shit like, yo, they're trying to. assassinating my character, that whole thing he posted on his... It might still even be on his Instagram. Because he didn't delete it after the Cassie video came out. It was still up there. So it's like, we have all of these things. And again, I'm, you know, I like to have these conversations because this is not the only

example or instance of this happening. This is happening more than we think and more than we can imagine. I just like the fact that now it's a conversation than we're talking about it because it's like, yo, a lot of people are doing things behind the scenes, behind closed doors that are not right. It's not, you know, people are being assaulted, abused. And this is shit that we need to talk about. So when you say if he snitches and how are people going to react, the same way they've been reacting. It didn't happen to me. They lying on him. He didn't do that. They're trying to tear down the black man. Dr. Umar's saying it's a distraction for the, for the election.

It's like, wait, what? Election is still happening. No, but they're saying, but now we're not asking Kamala, what she's going to do for black people. We're not asking. what he's going to do for black for black people because we're too busy gossiping and trying to dissect the Puff case. So now we're not even interested in what Trump or Kamala are trying to do for us. It's all about Puff and talking about Puff and Puff got arrested. So we already starting to see the things that people are like, oh, whatever, we don't care about that.

That's a little insulting. Black people can't focus on more than one thing. That's an insulting point. I'm just telling you, I'm just telling you already the conversation that are being thrown out it sounds like projecting. I think most human beings can focus on both things at once. I'm just telling you so when you say what's going to happen

my response to that Rory, nothing. It's going to be regular business as usual. If he takes it to trial, what's going to be a little fucked up is I think a lot of our favorite entertainers are going to be in paperwork where they're actually not guilty of anything

but having consensual sex with a prostitute that is of age. And because they're in the puff paperwork, they're going to be looked at as some pedophile that's part of the deep state. That's really where I think a lot of this shit is going to go. It's happened. We've seen it before. Usher deleted his tweets.

What was that about? He said he was hacked. And Pink did allegedly too. What did Usher tweet that would have been so crazy during this case? Did Usher tweet like that? No. I've never seen an Usher tweet go viral where he says some shit and it was like, yo, what? And that's literally tickets on.

on sale now, Madison Square Guard tonight, shit like that. Like, okay. Taurus over, I guess, so delete that shit. I don't know. The only thing I could think is that maybe if you are tweeting where you're at or like what you're doing at the moment, it can place you somewhere that you might not want to officially have let it known that you were there.

If that makes sense. Damaris, we've seen countless videos from niggas at Club Love. I promise. Usher deleting his tweets will do nothing. If he was there, we're going to see that nigga moon walking all across the fucking liver room. Also, if all of Twitter can find your old tweets, I think the fed's can. Yeah.

Yeah, that's just a safe. That's a safe bit. He said he was hacked. He said he was hacked. He said he doesn't know why the person who hacked him deleted it, but he said it was active. What do you guys feel about Kevin Lyle's stepping down? That was interesting. Yeah. But again, the timing was very interesting, but in no way

do I want to put anything on Kevin Lyle's jacket without any evidence when it comes to this type of shit. And that's the fucked up part because every move's going to look like Every move is going to look like a reaction To this This whole puff shit

Like every move you can't If you catch a cold right now I'm like this nigga Just trying like he's sick Because he don't want to go to court I have nothing to do with that That has nothing to do with me You're saying y'all was in London

Because y'all don't want to be extradited That's what they said Who said that? There's a few people that were out of the country When this happened and they were like Ooh wonder why It's like I don't know No

not just other people too. I've been to a puff party. I don't think I'm in the paperwork, though. You actually snuck into a puff party, which is crazy. Sneak it, sneak it into the freak off his thirst. Roy snuck in to give a toast. They didn't even know he was there. He just showed up during the toast.

He showed up with his own party. He's like in another thing. Another glass. I actually toasted to Puff and what an amazing safe environment he's created for all of us. I gave one of those. It's almost too safe. I will say, though, the only like super high level person I did see at that was Al Sharpton and he's already

an FBI informant, so I think he'll be fun. Yeah, he was there. Actually, he was there on behalf of the fence. Actually, he may be the one that brought this whole shit down. He brought this whole shit down. Yeah, he's one of the biggest FBI informants ever. So, you know. Yeah, I mean, this whole ditty shit, you know,

again, we're going to find out and hear about some things that may shock us, may not. Some people already feel like, you know, this is all things that have. been known. Some people feel like this is all just another attempt to tear down the black successful man. Whichever side of this you on, I think

once this thing starts to, once the trial starts to happen, because again, I do think it'll be a trial. I don't see Puff pleading and copping out to any of these charges. I just, I don't see it. I don't think there's going to be a gray area. To close, my only prediction is this could end up being the craziest

fucking thing ever, or just nothing. Something we just move past. Oh, no. It's going to be within a year. It's going to never be not nothing. The feds don't come get you for nothing. That was my thing. When I had the tweet I wrote and I was thinking about Epstein's case, I was like, they're just playing in our face. Like that whole Epstein ring and empire, who else went down besides him? I mean, he died. They killed him, whatever.

But Guy Lane is doing her little bullshit stint. You're telling me only two people in that entire operation went down. Two people. Just tell me to go fuck myself. No. Two people. Prince Harry did an interview. Where they were like, why were you with Jeffrey Epstein in Central Park after he was arrested for trafficking children? Prince Harry was with Jeffrey Epstein. Or Prince, whatever. Prince Andrew.

I'm about to say, don't put that on Harry's jacket, man. Don't do that. To another ginger. I'm sorry. Didn't he say, uh, didn't he say, uh, he said, I'm doing the honorable thing? He also say, I don't sweat. Yes. He was like, couldn't be me. I don't sweat.

And there's a photo of it's. him. We can see you. It's you. So there was a girl that was underage that he had party with and fucked at a London club. And she had described, like, in detail about the entire thing. And she described the smell of his sweat, like, in her paperwork. And Prince Andrew went on an interview

with 16 minutes, I think it was. And was like, well, that's impossible. Because at that time, I had a disease where I couldn't sweat. He said, I don't sweat. Couldn't have been me. Then they just showed these photos. They're like, this is you. Then they asked, then they asked. And that's the girl. And that's Guy Lane right there. Then they asked, why were you in Central Park with Jeffrey Epstein after he was arrested for these things?

Oh, I thought I was being honorable by telling him we can't be seen in public anymore. And then they go, well, you stayed at his house for a week after that meeting. It's like a hotel. It was coming. I didn't even see him. Oh, man. But I don't think anyone's going to answer for this. It's not going to happen.

You think Clive Davis, Tommy Motola. Anyone, the highest execs in music period, are going to have to answer for this. No fucking way. So let me ask you something. They don't care enough about this. You don't think Puff is going to do any jail time? No, I think my theory of this will either be the craziest shit ever

or Puff will just do 10 years and everyone will move on. Nothing will be exposed. Puff will take a plea deal. We'll never know exactly what happened. Are you talking about exposing? Like things come up. Yeah. Okay.

Puff will take a plea, do 10 years. Probably do eight of those years. And everyone will move the fuck on. We'll never see a phone. fucking thing. We have no idea who was at the freakoffs. Every conspiracy we have will just be debunked in a second and everyone will move the fuck on. This won't be as

crazy as we think it is right now. Okay. That's really where I think shit will go. But I also think there's a world where this could get nuts. I hope it goes to the nuts side because I want anyone that did some nasty shit to be exposed for it. Especially in the music business. If y'all was doing

freaky nasty shit, unconsensually, hell yes. Get every last person. Unconsensually. Puff. Puff, snitch on everyone. But I do feel bad like you said, Rory, about the people who were just at the freakoffs, because I could see 25 year old being getting

pulled into a freak off and not knowing what everybody else was doing, not knowing that this person shouldn't be here, that this person is under age, right? This isn't consensual. And you just in there getting freaky, lathered up with baby oil sliding around like a wet seal. And you don't even know that there are crimes going on around you, outside of the crime of prostitution, which

we kind of like ignore. But you don't know that there's like crimes going around you. Do we go a prostitution? People know that. Like, people hire prostitutes. Again, gray area, because I think there is a lot of sex trafficking that women end up being prostitutes against their will. Yeah. Forced into that lifestyle. But there's also women that are just completely fine of age being prostitutes. And I don't think it's a crime or if it is a crime. We shouldn't look down on a rapper that pays for consensual sex of a woman of age

that chose to get into prostitution. Well, yes, as long as everything is consensual, And people are of age, legal age, then, you know. And again, I know prostitution is a crime. I'm saying morally, like, that's what they want to do. Cool. And I think some people that have nothing to do with Huff's real nasty, unconsensual shit, are going to get caught up in that paperwork that just happen to be at the freakoff. What's your man that owns the bunny ranch?

What's his name? The bunny ranch. Yeah, in Nevada. Oh, I forgot his name. Lamar Odom? Well, no, Lamar does... That's why I really wanted to go when we were in Vegas

where he wouldn't take me. You never brought it up. I would have went to the Bunny Ranch. How far was it from downtown Vegas? It's like an hour drive, I think. Oh yeah, we could have done that. Yo, DeMaris Waze the Bunny Ranch? She put that in Ways from a hotel?

Like, how long would it take? How much is an Uber? Imagine she had alternate traffic routes We're talking about Dennis Hoff? Yeah. So he passed, yeah. He ran it. From 92 till 2018, he passed in 2018.

Yo, dying at the butt, not dying at the buddy ranch, but dying with that as your job is crazy. Lamar tried. I wonder if you get a discount. Oh, my God. This is even sicker. Ron Jeremy found his body and tried to revive him with another woman. Yeah, he died at the ranch, right?

That's a sick. Imagine Ron Jeremy being your last chance at Lifeline. Yeah, you might as well just let me go. He could be proficient in CPR. I promise you not. I saw him. I've seen him in LA. I've seen him on Sunset Boulevard.

He's nothing about. He doesn't look healthy to you? No. Eight and a half. He probably runs a four. 4.41. I can promise me running 4.4. I can promise you for Ron Jeremy doesn't run a 4-4-1.

I can promise. That's because he was walking on something. Haddy started jogging. He was like, oh, look, he got some wheels. Who? Yeah, he got jammed up. He's doing time. And they locked Ron Jeremy up

It's over. He's going to die in there. Because when I seen him on Sunset, I thought he was dead. I thought Ron Jeremy had died. And then he walked out of this restaurant on Sunset. I was like, that's Ron Jeremy? I thought he died. Is that my mask? I was like, yo, that's Ron?

He got charged with 30 sexual assault counts from 21 victims. Jesus. Christ. Wait, what? I didn't look into the Ron Jeremy. Yeah, 34 criminal counts. I mean, come on. That face screen.

officially been dismissed. See, don't put that on Ron Jacket. This is all I said. Well, all right, yeah. Yeah, in 2021, he pled not guilty to over 30 consensuals. So 12 rapes. Jesus Christ. Yeah.

Porn worlds is weird. Yeah. It's crazy, man. It's a different world. Look at him. That's a sick mugshot. People were fucking him? That was the face of porn at one point. Yeah, he was like the man.

What's his like dig-big? Or like, why was he the face? Are you swinging? Yeah, he's eight and a half. It's off. I'm just saying, Julian, listen, you, my God, but just to say a niggins swing it is crazy. Maul, you know better than I.

This is your era. I'm just saying, but I didn't. Johnny Sins guy. Yeah, but did you hear me sit here and say, yeah, he's swinging? DeMaris asked the question and I was ready to go into the next topic. You're from the VHS era. Like, you literally put a tape in to watch. Yeah, but homie over here and said, yeah, he's swinging.

Like, what is that? Yeah. Did you rewind it when you returned it to Blockbuster Or how do you, for porn? You thought I could get a porn, a porn area. There was not a porn area at Blockbuster. So what is he asking? There wasn't.

There wasn't another adult section. At Blockbuster? You had to get that from like the sex toy store that had like the peep shows in the back room. That was very specific to Maris. Have you been there? Yes, I have. Okay. I will ask though, like when you were watching the VHS, I assume after like postnut clarity,

like what am I doing? Yo, did you rewind? That's what I'm saying. Or like the next time you wanted to watch it, it was already like halfway through. Yeah, you start right there. Really? That's the beautiful part of VHS, yeah.

Mall was not lying. Did you know that the, like, time code of like your favorite parts? No. It wasn't no time codes. You just, was just watching and then you can tell, like, okay. No, but on the VCR, didn't it usually say? On some of them? Yeah.

Like timestamps? Yeah, it'll play. But it's like, you learn to ignore that, though. You can just eyeball the scene like, oh, I know it's great to happen now. That's up we come from the eyeball ever. Do you guys like to watch it? This is where Ron delivers the pizza. Do you like the buildup?

I think I know Roy's answer, pause. Do you guys like the buildup in the story or do you just like to get to the shits? I think Roy likes the story. I need a storyline. See? Who listens? I'm saying,

I'll fast forward to five seconds before they know. Roy watches like, I wonder if he's going to be. Man, I don't care that your husband is going out of town on the business trip. Get naked and get to it. Like,

I don't get to what you're not. You're not curious is like, well, how do they end up in this situation? I promise you, I'm not. I like when I'm not even like, like, sure, like, damn, I hope he beats. You think you're watching a porn and he's not. That's how much I get engulfed in the storyline.

What if she says, no? He would politely leave then. You don't like a storyline? No, not in porn. Really? Yeah, it's really. I don't, peach, no? I feel like it's a little invasive.

Get right to it. I also, I also am like not big on just a man and a woman just, like, I need a threesome. Like, I feel like I'm, it's a privacy. thing. Yes, you watching porn should be in right. Funny, Rory says I've been on a threesome kick lately in terms of just like watching. It's nice to have that extra body in the room

is to break it up. Because I feel like when it's just the man and the woman, I feel like this is too intimate. I shouldn't be seeing this. This is what you guys are doing in your own private time. When it's more of a group thing, I feel like, all right, cool. I'm a part of it. I don't feel like a weird peeping time at that point. Yeah. This is a group activity.

Just a man and a woman fucking like, what are we doing? I feel you. Turn the camera off. This is a... He looks great. This is sacred. This is a nuclear family.

This is a couple in love. Your porn sucks. POV porn. That angles trash. Never did that. Wait, what, what... POV is like what... I know what POV is, yes.

It's from the guy's perspective. So like, it would, like, the camera would be like here. It's like... So it's kind of like what you make. When you make porn, it's... No, I know P-O-V... From your point of view. Yeah.

I don't mind it. I like it when I do it. I don't... Yeah, it sucks, but I don't like... stupid. Why do you want to see him? Why don't you want to see what he's seeing? Why you want to see what? You want to see him in the No, I don't want to say it's just better angles. Like if it's not, this angle sucks. He's a film book. This angle sucks. Yes, this angles. He loves the art of. I want more of cinematography. I want more of a wide. Like, give me. I want to see the room. Yeah. I want to see the room. Fuck y'all funny. He's from the school of Stanley Kubrick, this guy. Eyes wide shut. I'm

fucking crying. I know I'm not wrong, though. No, you're crazy. You're not wrong. You're crazy. Where Republicans have a point where porn is ruining our society is the guys that put the VR. Because I see that on porn now. There's like an option for VR. Really?

Yeah, you can put on like VR. They have specific porn that's shot for VR. I don't need to be on. You are on a different. Porn is a problem now. Now I want to try. Now I want to buy the glasses. Now I want to buy the glasses.

Just fuck a human. You know how crazy it is for you to be masturbating to match with a VR headset on? And then you take the headset on and your two home girls are standing there looking at you in the room like what the fuck are you doing like you know Alex you're in there butt ass just like Alex just walking the beam so yeah you don't hear nobody VR headset on loud as fuck you can't see shit all you hear is ass slapping you take them headsets over your homegirl standing right and I'm in the kitchen leg up no idea how I got there oh yeah what are you doing oh and if it's the VRs you're putting on a VR's and you got to walk like you got to follow her you

got to follow her into the room and after you know you wake up in a whole different room Y'all laughing. I do kind of stuff. Yo, what if the porn did this shit? What was that, um, that game that had people were, like, following, was that Pokemon. Yeah. Pokemon Go.

Imagine that they did that with porn. You got to find the girl. Like, yeah, like. Oh, that's fire. But it's only a bit, like the bad bitches all hidden in South Central Park. That's why did he was there. That's what I did he was there. That's not funny.

That's funny. That's funny. That was funny. Let it fly. That was fucking. That was dark. That was dark. Beep it.

They had him. That was that was dark fucking dark That was fucking awesome They had the headsets for what They didn't know they was the central ball It started out at Harlem Who you mean?

What you're looking at me like that fool? I'm not I'm looking at the phone start Would you then put the headset on and fuck them? No you have to have the headset on too fine You can't see her without the headset Because with Pokemon Go you had your phone And you like just followed You could only see it in the world

What if they did that with porn like the Pokemon Go That's what she's saying? Horn edition. Like Jada Stevens is at the Santa Monica Pier butt naked right now. And you're jumping in the water, wouldn't you? Me? Drown. But show.

Now I'm all drunk. All this shit fucked up. All this shit fucked up. Right in the water. I love that you chose like one of the most public places in Los Angeles. Like that's where that's where people are going to beat off. That's where the Pokemon go is at. They were like, yo, some dude ran past me like, yo, so what's your name?

I didn't know what it was. Balvisor. I said, what is that? Next thing I know the whole pier was flooded. Who would be like the Charzard of that? What was the main Pokemon with the fire? Charzard, yeah. Wasn't he like one of the best?

Charzard? I don't know who Charzard, yeah. He was like one of the goats. It was like one of the biggest Pokemon, I think. Oh, okay. So who would, like, who, yeah. My Charzar would be Ciar Noir. You could just de-oh. I was thinking of a redhead because Charzard

represented fire and was red. Oh, man. So who was the one that homie? I got names. Winona Ryder. Just having your top five right there. Abigail Morris. You said Redhead.

Okay. Yeah. Go on a list. You can do by, buy hair style. Jesus. Who's your favorite blondes? Savannah Bond. Is Alexis Texas fun?

Yes. For show. Alexis, Texas, for show. Go. Yeah, again, wasn't familiar with her work when we sat down with her. Alexis,

how could you not be familiar with her? This Savannah? She got some heavy. She's been posting on IG stories lately and looking, I think I might even send her a fire emoji. Alexis? Yeah.

Alexis been. She's been looking at Crane on Instagram. Four stars don't care about no fire emojis. Send a cash app. Send a cash hat. We're the cash shop. I think I'm setting Alexis, Texas, a cash app? For what?

A tip. They got tips on IG and Twitter now. Great content. I'm going to stick with my fire emojis. Oh. I can go on porn help for free and see. But that's not tipping. Like, I could get my bagel for free, but I like the way the girl wrapped it up to me,

great customer service. I'll tip her. I mean, with her, it's different. because I know her as a person before I knew her as that. We had a conversation. Yeah, he really got to know her. So I can't take the, like, you know, the friend goggles off. We got the know on a different level.

Yeah, it's hard to see her. Yeah. It's hard to see her. We have voicemails, man. Yes, let's get to voicemails. Do you like, what was the girl you just said? Kira? Yeah, do you like her before or after the boob job?

I like her boob job. I like her boob job. It doesn't look bad. But I like it before. It looks good. It looks good. Pre-boob job. I usually don't like a boob job.

They always go too hard. When is porn going to do like the more realistic? They do, but it's just they film too early. You have to wait for them to drop. And the girls got to go to work. They can't wait from it drop. So they'd just be up there. Stuck.

Yeah. Just up and it's stuck. Let's get to voicemail. All right, voicemails. This is fun. Speaking of a new listener, this is a voicemail from a new listener. You've got mail. Yo.

Yo, what's up? You know, this is Danny. I'm actually a new listener. I just start listening to y'all probably like what, two, three months ago. But not a dilemma, but just a situation. Long story short, me and my girl, madly in love. We've been dating four years. Planned a proposal next year, actually.

We ran into the same argument over and over, not a serious one, but it kind of gets tense. A lot of my family, I'm from Alabama. A lot of my family, they're from Atlanta. So we would go to the strip clothes like me and my cousins like real like casual. Like it's not really like a thing because majority of my family, like I said, they're from there. So I'll, you know, invite her like, hey, you want to come or me, you can go. And she'll just get up and I was like, no, no, no, no never take me to the strip club. This is terrible.

Like you're just going to be looking at women getting hard. You're not saying to shit like that. So I'm not like dying. go to the strip club. We haven't been to the strip club since we've been together. But is this more like a something I just need to give up or is this like an insecurity she should get over? We'll love to hear your thoughts, especially you to Mary's baby D. So yeah.

Love the pod and, uh, yeah. Dumpur. What? Yeah. But I don't know. I mean, if the strip club doesn't mean that much to you. It means that much to him. He calls it to the podcast. Who gives a fuck? It means that much fun. He's pretending it don't mean as much to him as it do. he like going to the strip club and I think he really wants to be able to go to the strip club. Yeah, like, well, I should be able to go to a strip club, man.

Like, what are we talking about? I agree. In the South, that's, like, really some cultural shit where it's not. That's church. You don't go there to get hard. Like, that's, it's the club, more or less.

First time I ever went to Atlanta for ATL Greek, went with my frat brother. His dad lived down there. His dad's stepmom, sister took all of us to the strip club. Like, it was a family outing. You were hard. I did not get hard. No.

but it, I did realize that this is a real cultural thing. Like, everyone goes to the strip club. It's not the way we view the strip club up here. So I'm not going to explain that to her then. It's a little sleazier up here, a little bit sleazier up here. Sleasier? They don't even get more like it's not a thing up here. It's not a thing, yeah.

It's like the stigma is like it's more nefarious here, whereas like there it's like going to a hookah lounge. It's like going to Hooters. Not even, it's like going to an actual regular club or lounge down. Huka lounge. So, but she's from the South, right? Didn't he say that? How does she not understand that? She's not from Atlanta.

She's got to be from Atlanta to understand the culture of Atlanta. I'm not from Atlanta to understand the culture. Yeah, but I mean, it's different where you can understand it. But now if, like, the person you're dating still wants to do those things, then in her mind, as someone that doesn't understand it, she's like, well, why does he still want to be around all these women when he has me? He should play shits and gigs podcast for her. There's no baddies down there.

So, like, I'm not even going to get hard. So look, babe, there's not one good-looking woman in this entire city. So what the fuck? No, I'm there for the art. I can promise you. If shits and gigs would have walked in Magic City, their whole perception of Atlanta would have chased. To answer this correctly and jokes aside,

that's a red flag, in my opinion. Yeah, if your girl doesn't want you to go to a strip. But I mean, also, on the other side of that. She's going to have issues with way more things. If there's a problem with, but if you do like somebody enough and you want to be with them, that's not. a hard ass. If you like the girl enough.

If she says that, like, y'all, if you like good enough, it's like, all, whatever, I ain't really got to be in there like that. I don't think I've ever dated or talked to a girl that would have an issue with me going to the strip club. Yeah, but if I would find it kind of weird. But if you like the girl enough, like, y'all really like this girl. She was like, y'all, I'm going to be honest with you. I really don't like the fact that you be in a strip club like every week.

I just don't even know if I would ever date that personality. You would. And so I was about to say, I don't want it. I don't want it to appear like we're saying that there's something wrong with her. she's wrong for feeling this way because there's so many different parts of not major cities that we live in where there are just girls that were raised a certain way good Christian girls and they think that all of that shit is nefarious and wrong and Satanly. Like, and that you're going to the strip club to be sleazy and the cheat.

There is that perception around it. We just live in a different world, so that's a red flag to us. People have the wrong perception of what a strip club is, I think. Like, you're not in the strip club like, like, now granted, if you spending money like that and you know somebody, you connect in the ship, You could definitely fucking one of the rooms for sure. But if you're just a guy who seems like this guy who just goes and just to go and hang out, like you don't really know the manager, the owner, you're not spending money like that. You're just in there watching ass and, you know, having to drink.

But she's worried that he's getting hard. Yeah, but if he getting hard there and he coming home and he putting you up against the wall like a Bosciat, what's the problem? Right? What's the problem? That's funny. If he nailing you to the wall, he's at the strip club all night. You turked on horn. You sound like one of those women that says as long as he comes home to me.

Yeah. Well, that's a, because that's a real thing. Yeah, I don't. Women, women feel like that. Yeah, go out to the strip club, nigga. But don't fuck me just because you like, another bitch got you horny. And you just going to, you really want to fuck her, but you just coming home and fucking me off your horniness from another bitch.

I don't really like that either. But why I think it's a red flag in general is it if she's scared that he's going to the strip club and quote unquote getting hard, Instagram could get you hard at that point. Like, yeah. He has to delete women from his life at that. that point. He's hard right now. You see women half naked at every fucking corner you take. You don't have to go to

the strip club to see a naked woman. Yeah, that's true. You go to the beach and see a naked woman. I'd get hard on walks to the studio. I'd... All right. I don't know where that point ties into what. I'm just saying boners just happen. Like, stuff just happened. What are you going through puberty? You might be, you know, I'm sitting here and I'm trying to like

analyze you. You might be autistic a little bit. Apologize to me for saying that about game. That was different. You said he was... You said Game had BPD. No, he gave him like four different. Yeah, you, you treated that nigga like he was Zendaya in fucking euphoria. Yeah, you gave him like four different diagnosis. Right.

Roy wrote him a script. Yeah, bipolar. Take these twice a day. You gave him all kind of shit. I called him a pyru. ADHD. You called him a what? Pyru.

No. Well, you guys miss her. I get the joke. It's fine. It's fine. You guys didn't hear my, uh, put the DP and DP joke. So I'm just going to sit on the side today. That was from like an hour and a half ago.

Why are you bringing that back up? He'd be mad with his jokes don't land. Because I need therapy. Because I agree with the people in the comments that, yeah, I want people to laugh my jokes. They're like, yeah. Whenever his jokes don't let, he be fucking heated. Fuck, I worked on that for seven hours last night. Because I was anticipating the porn conversation.

I'm leaning into what they say about me. We're all seriousness. I like it. I really like strip clubs. I couldn't date a man who didn't want me. strip clubs. You like women, Damaris. I know, but what I'm telling him, I really like strip clubs and I wouldn't want to be with a man who didn't want me in strip clubs. So, if

you are comfortable never going to a strip club again, then stay with her. But if that's something that you really like to do, then just she's going to have to either get with it or get lost. And he's, it's, like, what Damaris said. He sounded like, he's like, I don't even really care for strip clubs. It's not really my thing. It's just like, so it's like, if you really don't care, then just don't know.

It's not even something that's that serious. It's worth you being with that girl. But, like, yeah, that's just the beginning of her, because. Because now once you see that you give in to her dislikes, like, all right, I'm not going to do that. Then she's going to start saying, oh, shit, that was easy. Like, let me find something else. I don't like that he'd be doing it and throw that out there and see if he'll come up off of it as easily as he did the strip club. That's just how the mind works sometimes.

Speaking of that, I was at an event recently and there were a bunch of, you know, I had some light, you know, jeans, body was looking right, whatever, crop, whatever. Yeah. And I was at an event And it was a bunch of married like couples And they were like around our age Like around me and Julian's age You got a slingers party? No, it was just like a party

But everybody there was married So the women, the way that they look at like The single girl that walks in Now I'm like I'm like I've gotten to the age where I'm like they look at me Like I'm a fucking apex predator Like I'm like hi they like

Everybody like arm on their man like this I'm like oh my like I didn't know when we were at that age now. Like, that's a real thing. You see that in like movies and shit, but... Yeah. Why do you think men are so miserable because they have to hang out with other couples all the time?

Oh, that sounds awful. Like, they can't hang out with their single friends because, yeah, women that are in relationships view, to your point, of the apex predator shit, they were once single women. So I feel like they're kind of snitching on themselves. Like, you... That's how I met you, single.

So what were you doing that you feel that it is such a risk to have single women around you? Like, what type of whole shit were you doing? Like, that's, I just feel like they're telling themselves when they do that. I'm just here for the potato salad. Maybe I don't want to tell a lot of us, man. Yeah, like, you might be a homewrecker. It's like, like, she, you know, man. But why would you view that unless you were a homewrecker?

And on top of that, there is. No, why would you do. Did you break up? Why would you break up relationships when you were single? Why do you think any woman that's single would be a threat? Or you feel like your home could be wrecked. Thank you. That as well.

Thank you. You know what I'm saying? You feel like, damn. Like, Shorty, she looked better than me. She got nicer body to me. Like, my man, I know if he attracted to me, he got to be attracted to her. She don't have the genius.

And if she ain't got no man, she's single, no man, no nothing. It's like, uh-uh, what time's she leaving? That's what it was. I'm just trying to be nice. Like, play games. No, you can't be nice. You can't be nice.

That's your problem. You can't be single and nice. You got to be a bitch and be single. Yeah, that's how I go. If you go in there, like, bearing, like, baked goods and shit like that, like, you came in here with warm banana bread? Who is this bitch? This just got warm banana bread and no man.

And my man love banana bread. That sounds amazing. Yeah, like, you know what I would eat the banana bread? What nigga going to be at the spot in a, in a cute single woman walking with warm banana bread and not go over there, kiss him? Every nigga going to be looking like, man, I ain't going to lie. I'm trying to kiss him banana bread. That's banana bread.

And it's a banana bread. It is fresh out. Put brown sugar in that? Yeah. Like, she crushed the walnuts and put that shit on top like that? Like, man, cut me a slice of it. Oh, that's probably time. Well, you know I think also, and let me not say even gender specific, I think a lot of couples

get scared of single people because in social situations, all they know how to do is talk about couple shit. That's all they talk about. So they want to be around other couples because that's all you're going to talk about. When single people come in, they have the whole scope of the world to discuss. They could talk about anything. Well, I think that at that point, you're just weird. Like, my best friend has been in a long-term relationship for five years.

Like, when I go out with them, they don't talk about a couple of shit. Like, we're normal. We're people outside of being in relationships. But the norm is with people that are in long-term relationships. They tend to hang out with other people in long-term relationships because they have more to relate to, which is relationships. They can't talk about what the fuck is going on. Any streets? At all.

And I'm not even saying, like, you were kind of wack and values. Yeah. Roy kept bringing up his family. facts. I'm really annoying to be around. And I even get annoyed too. In Vegas. Dumpstab. Well, a nigga that out says down, down 20 grand.

Shut the fuck up about your daughter already. No, let me show you a photo. Look at her. Look at her. She just... I'm down 20 beds and you're trying to show me pictures of your daughter doing bath time. Get the fuck out of here, man. I will say, though, like, my biggest fear was always having to be friends with Amara's friends' parents. Yeah, because you're.

don't do small talk well. Now even she doesn't really have friends per se. She can't really talk like that. Still her friends. Don't do it. But all these people do is want to talk about kids. And it annoys the fuck out of me. Like someone bring in a hooker to just spice up this conversation. We just sit here and just talk about fucking kids all fucking day at the playground. Because y'all don't really know each other like that. So what else would you bring up?

I don't want to talk to y'all, period. You talk about Diddy? Yeah. Please. That would be way more fun. I'm saying people in relationships and people that have kids only know how to talk about that shit. That's the only place their brain goes. Yeah, but that's what you're, it's like, insufferable. So why don't you be the guy to say that and be like, listen, let the kids play, I don't want to talk about the kids. Yeah.

Because I'll be, I'll be blacklisted from sing-along. What type of music? Are you mad about that? Well, Amar like sing-along. I wouldn't want to do that to her. Oh, so when they black men, like, you, your daughter can't go either? You can't be that. You can't be the outsider of the parent group.

She has a mother, right? Yeah. Yeah. So let Kia bring and don't bring your... Yeah, but then they're going to whisper about Kia on who she's with at Sing-Along. Like, oh, she's with that angry Redhead. You think they're not doing that already? Yeah, I was going to say.

You think they didn't pick up on that already? I can promise you were already. That's already what they're talking about. But you can't be the outsider of the parent group. I've started to notice that. Because they are very chatty. Yeah. Because they have nothing to talk about except for kids and kids' parents.

Yeah. So you have to be on your best behavior at all times. There was one time I had an AirPod in. And I could hear them talking about me having an AirPods. Are you serious? What? Like, oh, he just watches his daughter with an AirPods. You with them.

Yeah, my kid can't talk and she's running around a playground. Sorry if I'm, sorry if I'm listening to recaps of the debate. I have to be informed from my fucking job. Informed. Like, what do you think? I'm going to sit here and talk with them. Like, stop running around. Let's have a discussion.

No, I'm putting an iPod in. And I could, I heard a woman. because I only had one on this side and I heard her say, you watch this as his daughter with an air pod in? You should have said, yeah, I would answer it. See, I'm not out.

I'm like, yeah, I could hear. I'd be like, yeah, I'll turn around so she's seen the other one in the mail. Like, yeah, no, I do. You guys say that now, and I would have said the same thing if I was not in the position I'm in. I don't want that reputation.

Like, you could be excommunicated from that group and it affects your child. Yo, I promise you, Amar is not going to give a fuck about them kids if she can't see them. I promise you. She's not going to even.

She didn't even notice. Yeah, but no, it's different with those parent groups. Damn. Put on your smile and just say, oh, yeah. Oh, you're adorable. Oh, my God. Well, so, homie, the purpose of my story about that is just some women are insecure and especially if you're a prize, you make a certain amount of money or you look good

or whatever. She is terrified of anything taking you, especially a stripper. So you're going to have to deal with that. That's the red flag that Rory speaks of. I think he's leaving some. context out here though. I think like maybe he dated a stripper at one point or like he was known to fuck in the strip club. That's why

his girl. Yeah, glitter on his dick. I really don't think there's women out there that really are like don't go to the strip club. You're very, that's very, I don't want to say naive but naive. There are so many women that are against. Who gets pussy at the strip club though? Right. Plenty of people get pussy at the strip club. What are you talking about? Who?

Not you. Not you. Not you. Not you. I get pussy. You wasn't picked first to fucking the strip club. You was not picked first to fucking the shamping. I don't. What is that draft? I didn't even know what it is. Oh, it's not a draft. I'm not a strip club guy.

I'm just not like, I would have no desire to get pussy show. But like, I don't, how often do people go to this strip club and get pussy? Like, I did, you wait, you just waste money and get a dance. That's what I think it is. No, you're all, you're sadly mistaken, son. Yeah. How many people have, do you know how fucking a trip club? I feel like that's more of a New York thing.

In Atlanta, people who fuck in the strip club? Well, I don't know. All the strip clubs I went to in Atlanta, like, are very much the club. Yeah. I don't even know there's a room. I see the fucking happen in like Miami. Sex happens in all strip clothes. I've fucked in a New York strip club.

Wait, so is Rory. Tell us about it. What? Together? No, not. Ew. Together. Together?

P.O.V. Julian be so concerned about the dumbest shit. Like, together? Like, this is a malarkey. How come I wasn't invited? That's really what it was. That's all it was. He was mad.

He wasn't invited. How come my guys? Well, I'm not saying I'm not above it. I would like to fuck in a strip club. It just, I just, I just, not something I go.

He would like Sapphires. Not on Black Night, not on Sunday night. Not on Black night. Only night I go. No, that's the shits and gigs night. The night that Nick Cannon hosts. Do you have to fuck a stripper?

Or can you just fuck a girl you bring? I'd rather fuck someone I bring. Yeah, you can fuck her with a stripper. You can also take her home and fuck her. Like, no, I want to do it in public. It's like a thing. It'll be fun.

It'll be fun. Well, private rooms aren't public. No, I would mean like in a public set. Like outside of my room. Private rooms are public. Thank you, Rory,

for that. We didn't, we had no idea. Well, it's not like you could fuck it. It's not like you're in front of the stage and you're fucking a chick. Anything that's not in your house is in public,

Rory. Thank you. You know, like public porn? Like when people go to like, if you fuck somebody in a bar bathroom, that's not you fucking in private. Like that is the public.

All right. So, in a hotel room is that private or because that's not my house. No, that's private. Oh, God. That's how Peach Court pink are. During COVID, I fucked in a bar bathroom.

You had no choice. Fucking in a strip club private room is not. The CDC said you have to fuck in this bathroom and that's it. I stand on that, though. Fucking in the bathroom? Well, that too, but not the CDC. Fucking in a private room in a strip club is not fucking in public. Oh, my God.

Okay, Roy. Okay. All right. Stand on it. I like when niggas stand on wrong shit. He just sing, quicksand. Look at this,

Nick. He looked like mom and life. If you fuck at the table in front of the stage, now you're fucking in public. Well, yeah. Fucking, like,

fucking in a, points of mate. Points of mate. Fight back, Julian. No, there's a whole porn category where it's like fucking in public and it's people that are fucking,

like, changing rooms, it's stores or bathrooms at museums. Like, those are public spaces. Just because they have a curtain doesn't mean they're not public.

So do you consider fucking in a, uh, uh, A changing room at the store is... Public because somebody really could walk in. Private rooms at strip clubs are guarded. It's basically a hotel room. The guard can walk in.

The hotel manager can walk in. Nobody can't walk in in the change room if you lock the door. Who can walk in? I've never fucked in a changing room, but... I worked at a changing room at American Eagle, and I had a key, so I could have. You worked at American Eagle and didn't fuck in the fitting room? No, I couldn't find anyone. That's like working at Yankee Stadium and not fucking next to the popcorn.

But I was... I was a jgging expert. Yeah, like, you know one of the coworkers that you flirt with? Yeah, you're going to get one day it's going to happen. I'm not as ill as you. At Yankee Stadium? Well, it's a lot of places to hide.

They have really nice sweets up there too. Yeah. If I got the key, I think I wouldn't say I fucked the Yankee Stadium. I'm like, come on. I would definitely want to do that. All I'm saying is, everything is stretch,

me in the bathroom. Stretch it out. I just think the strip club, if you fucked in the bathroom at a strip club, now I think you're fucking in public. Those private rooms are private. Okay, 40, 40. Remember how the bathrooms were.

You all had an individual stall, but you walk in together. Public. You fucking in public. So if I take a girl in one of those stalls that locks. The bathrooms at 4040 are not designed for sex. Why? Private rooms at strip clubs are designed for sex. There's a lock.

You pay a fee. It's basically a hotel. Which means not designed for sex. The 40-40 bathroom? Yeah. Is this bad? So if Julia has sex in that bathroom, is that him fucking in public or private? Someone has had sex.

Are we here? Was that unnecessary? No. No, no one's here. No one's here That's private That's, okay Oh

Well technically this is a private This is private this is private this is private residence yeah so At end of the day long story short Homie I'm right is what you're saying Don't leave her I say leave her because I feel like More effort and issues are going to come

later on But okay We can move on We all unanimously dump her Dump her and dump her fast Do we have one more voice? I don't think he should dump her But whatever

Thanks for listening by the way He's a new listener Yeah Welcome. Hey, DeMerey Moore, hey Julian, P. Jan Yomi, hope all is well with you guys. I have like a little situation, not even a situation. I have been in a relationship. I want to say for the last 10 years, I'm only 30. So high school sweetheart. And I am coming up on. my one year of me not being in a relationship anymore. And I want to know how long do I wait to start dating? Like, it's a year too soon, too fast.

Like, how long should I wait. You waited too long. You waited too long. Girl, you waited 10 years too long. Go to a strip club and get fucked. Not a strip club. Or a shot. Go to a strip club and get fucked.

Damn. It's probably. Oh, where are you from? You in New York, baby. Come to last lap. I'm going to take her. She ain't been fucked in a year. Trying to lick her up in last lap.

I'm not trying to, oh, not you. Oh, you're trying to take her to the homies. Yes. That's how Diddy got in trouble? No, that's not. That's trafficking. That's trafficking.

And the last lap bathroom is public. The big one and the little one. Damn, that little one is small. It ain't no big, nothing in fucking last lap. There's a bigger bathroom and the small one. It's significantly larger. larger than the one in the hallway. You can make it work.

That's what I was talking about the 40-40 bathroom. Can make it work. Public though. Have you fucked in the 40-40 bathroom or is that why you- Me? For sure. Absolutely. You kidding?

What? I fucked in both last lap bathrooms. Are you kidding me? Absolutely. Yes. Sweetheart. Wait, she's not done yet. Oh, okay, go ahead.

Too fast. Like, how long should I wait? want to get some back story. Like I said, high school sweetheart, it went wrong. It got like really, really messy, domestic violence and stuff like that. Thanks, Julian. I have two kids out of the situation. We did end up buying our house together, but there's neither here or there.

But like I said, I'm one year out of that relationship. And I want to know, am I able to start dating again? Okay, well now that more context was added to that Understand why she waited And I think you should take as much time As you need to feel comfortable to go out and date After coming out of- See, y'all was all joking this shit now

You're talking about it. Now you sound like shits and gigs It's fight a flight now, look at you, you're running. You're running, you sound like shits and gigs. Look at you. Look at you. Look at you. You know, no, no, because now, you know, It's different. It's a different. Yeah, I'm going to pray for you.

You're not going to pray for her. You didn't pray, yeah. Y'all's, they close. Pray. Pray. Pray. Pray. Pray. Do the Our Father. Our Father, our in heaven. Hallow be thy name. That kingdom come that will be done on earth that is in heaven. Hallow be that Jesus Christ. I can't even speak. I never read it back. Hallow to Don versus Clips. I don't know. We got it like. Sweetie. Kingdom come. I will be done. On earth that is in heaven. Give us this day. They are daily bread. Yes.

And forgive those who's trespassed against us. I hated that lot. I always forget that one. As we forgive those who trespass against us, nah, fuck all that. I call the police. I call the time. God, leave me not into temptation and deliver me from evil.

Amen. Do you know the second part? There's another part. There's another verse? There isn't, yeah. I forgot that other part. They made it more inclusive. Anyways.

There is no set amount of time. That's too early. When you feel you are ready to date, you're ready. Let me put it like this. When you feel like you're ready to be disappointed. Because you were just saying, girl, if you don't go get fucked.

Because we thought he was just come out. Domestic Violence involved. Yeah, she has two kids and it's domestic violence involved. They bought a house together and shit. Like, yeah, that's a lot of more context of this entire thing. Yeah. So yeah, wait until you're ready.

Did you all. Did you hit a whole shit in gig pot? No. There was more context to it. It's all I'm trying to say. See? Look, y'all just saw a clip. Eight. Eight what?

Eight times one. Hey, yo That was crazy See the context What was the context of the Flagrant 2 episode that I missed Oh, I don't know I'm just asking if you've seen the whole episode

I don't know I didn't miss Oh yeah so I don't know But yes What was her name? Did she give us her name? She didn't say it Oh, I'm sorry

Take your time When you're ready I'm sure that the dating pool will be ready for you When you're ready to be disappointed too, by the way. Don't go. Stop. No.

Don't do that. She might find the love of her life. She might. But first of all, dating is a numbers game. She's not just going to go out on the first date and meet the love of her life. Like, you're going to have to kiss some fucking frogs. And that's going to suck being that you were just in a long-term relationship. Like, I understand how that is.

It's going to make you want to go. You're going to meet a couple niggas that's going to make you want to go back no matter how awful your ex is. But why isn't searching for love at this point? Maybe just just get out there. Okay. That too. but still just be prepared to be disappointed. I'm not saying that you'll never find love

or you'll never find what you're looking for or fun or anything, but people are awful. So you're going to meet some awful people. You're going to meet some cool people. Some shit's not going to work out. I just want to prepare her for that. I'm not being negative. I'm just being realistic.

It's pretty negative there. Okay. Well, send her off into the dating pool and say, hey, it's great out there. The water's great. But we're also not saying that. She called in saying, when can I just start dating?

Try it. Yes. But all I said was when she said when would be the time, when you're ready. And when I say ready, she called in. I don't know. Coming out of a relationship like that with two kids, I don't know if she even, like, has time to date.

But it sounds like she wants to. Yeah, she's entertaining the idea. So. It'll happen. I would say take it slow. The biggest. Fight or flight, I'm changing my tone completely. Take it slow.

Exactly. You want to have the John Ludge of conversation we had in Uber in London? This time would take. Oh, what was it? Slow. What we said? Nothing.

Say it. What we said? Nothing. No, John, I sit. Nick, John Legend is overrated. What fuck you mean? Say it. Yeah.

Overrated how? Well, no, that wasn't. The conversation was, I think we were talking about... Did we use the word overrated? You called him gay? What? Oh. What about music?

Look at what gay mind go. No, we're strictly talking about music. I think we were talking about because I asked a question, do people go to John Legend concerts? Like, does he still, does he, like, what rooms does he do? Does he do, like, arenas? Or does he does more like theater? I don't know.

But don't, like, don't get it twisted. John Legend could pack. People still want John Legend to perform at their wedding. Oh, yeah, we weren't saying. Oh, okay. I'm not saying that people don't want to see John Legend concert tonight. Well, I don't think he really has any concerts anymore. He's not really releasing music.

According to Ben, he's horrors, and he fills the room. He's going to Shanghai, China. Well, that doesn't care. count. Mercedes Benz Arena in Shanghai, China. Yeah, but that's China. That's where they make the cars. Yeah. That's actually, that was a good joke, right?

I don't even think it was a joke. Ain't that real? No, no. We will actually get into that John Legend conversation one day, though. I'm gonna fight or flight this one so we can have a... I liked his last album. Fleshed out John Legend. What's the YouTuber's name?

What's the dirt? What's the dirt? What's the dirt? I can tell. I can tell you like John Legend. Don't do that. Ain't no way you never got no pussy to know John Legend. You never got pussy to John Legend?

Demarest, all right. Paint the scenario. When you think I turned on John Legend and got some pussy? He might have just been in the playlist. I think the first time I kissed a girl, John Legend was playing. I can tell. I can tell. I can definitely tell.

Give me the green light. Kissing the green light is great. I'm ready to. Never mind. Julia definitely had give it a green light playing when he got his first. Oh, I didn't. It's not. Would y'all that the song was playing?

It was probably. Don't lie. Don't try to name a cool. I don't know the song. It was a B side. You kissing the B sides. Niggas, shut up.

You asked me a question that answered it for me. Because you're not going to try to name a single. Don't name a single. Name the B side. I'm saying it was probably during the game. It was probably off Get Lifted. I don't know what song. Classic album,

but I was listening to this. It's a great album. After that, it gets really shaky. No, no, no, don't do that.

I like, Loved in the future is very good. And once again is good too. Once again is cool. Once again's great. I probably kissed a girl. Evolver has a few records, but. Y'all definitely kiss somebody tonight, best you ever had.

Tonight's a fire. That's a good kiss song. Might a fucking Tyler Perry movie? That's definitely a Tyler Perry soundtrack. With a bad wig. Maxine's a great kiss on. I think y'all, I mean. It's coming home.

Okay, it gets shaky towards like the later in his career. Like, so does it? It got shaky on once again. Get lifted. Certified classic. Guys are a haters. Love get lifted. Once again, it's cool. That's shaky. Of his newer projects, I like darkness and light and love in the future.

Name one song. He has that one record with Miguel off Darkness and Light. That one record, huh? Right. Henthouse floor is not bad. Love Me Now. That was a big single. Sure Fires Great. Sure fires the one I think Miguel's on.

Julian. I like John. I'm not even defending him. I don't really don't care for him as a person. It's cool for you all admit that, you know, he's, he had his time. Well, I mean, y'all. Listen, I don't. Listen, the conversation.

It's just, it's just, hey. And we don't hate John Legend, but it's just, you're like edging hate. How are we trying to hate? Have a all of me? Your fave don't have an all of me. I said something crazy in the car that, fuck it. I said, all of me is overrated. All right.

All right. Bye. You can go. You can go. Do it right there. John Legend. What about ordinary people? It just, all his shit sounds like a long gap commercial.

It's like this nigga trying to get me to buy cackies every album. I don't want to buy no cacki. Maybe K-juler. Nah. Who do we think we are? That's a good song. Who do you think you are? I don't know yet.

Rick Ross is on that one, though. Made to love. Come on, we're not doing that. All of me is not overrated, bro. You sound crazy. How does all of me go? What's that? Who says?

He's like, all of you. He loves all of you. all your edges All your edges All right Well since we talk about Classics that y'all think is overrated I think Adorn is overrated now

See this is why you guys Stay in Schenectady with that shit Because He's from Schenectady Not me I'm sorry I'm sorry Syracuse

Syracuse My bad I'm sorry That's right there 10 lights away from each other I don't know Adorn is overridden Adorn is not away

You're crazy Demaris Who do you think is better Miguel or John Legend I'd say Who would win a versus Miguel or John Legend He won't even show up

He would just Help people to play his soul. You'll play my top 10. He's got 20. Miguel? Miguel has 20, bro. Even if he don't, he's going to win. Yeah.

His 10 is going to smoke the tent. Yeah, but I'm saying it's a 20. If it's 20, I'd take John in the longer. Nah, I'd take Miguel in a longer. He can't do how many drinks in this era, though. Damn. Yeah, how many drinks? That's a cancelable song.

It's a little rapy. That was my shit. Kendrick's on that remix. What's the dirt? It's all coming to the light. After Collier got away from production with John Legend, it was over. I don't think Miguel's got 20.

You're crazy. How to have these songs go. I don't know if he got 20. Are you count his features? Oh, if you count features. He has two J. Cole records that you love. And I love them. Don't two my favorite J. Cole songs.

Are we doing features? so power trip counts then too. And this is also where he's going to smoke John Legend because we were saying in the Uber again, reveal more. That Clips record that just came out, them talking about their parents, is probably the only John Legend hook I've liked

in the last 15 years. You didn't like hire? Oh, the DJ Coward one? Yeah. No. Didn't John Letting do the hook on God did, too? Yeah. Talk about ruining it.

Should have left it to Friday. Friday was smoking that. Why the fuck do you need to put John Legend at the end of that? Just for the name. you know that's how I go click click John Legend click

yo John Legend be ruining some songs I don't know he's like he fucked one of your bitches before like you kind of hating a little bit I can promise you that's not what happened he kind of hating both of y'all kind of heying that's why I said I wanted to

flush out this conversation because I knew I was gonna sound like I hate it I've just never been a huge John Legend yeah you don't have to be a huge John Legend fan to respect somebody Not wait first of all I respect his craft All of me was a great musician. A number one record for a whole year when it didn't have any fucking drums.

Like that's a foot in itself. I respect it. It's just overrated song. It's not that cool. You try to do ordinary people part two. No, it sounds nothing like that. Oh my. He just talking. I hate arguing with him because he just be saying shit. Yeah, that's nothing like ordinary people. He's not a passion. You know when they start choking. Cause that shit. He does that shit. It makes me cry. Musically, it does not sound alike at all. I agree with you guys there. But he was clearly trying to do ordinary people part two. He was trying to make another hit, bro. He makes love songs. He had a bunch of hits in between that. That did not sound anything like that structure.

Ordinary people and all of me do not sound. Okay. You know what? Fuck it. He makes wedding songs. That's his, that's his jam. So in the process of,

okay, yes, he made another wedding song. Would you guys listen to Green Light if Andre 3000 wasn't on it? Yes. I forgot Andre 3000 was even on that shit. Yes. Nah,

I like it. I like it too, but I forgot he was on it. So he just brought it back up. It's a good song. So you want to give me the green light. Yo, the recancy bias that y'all do on.

that in the moment I like green light. I'm ready to go right now. I'm ready to go right now. Give me the green light. That niggas sing like he got wet socks on. What the fuck is that even corral? I hate Ma.

It made sense to me. Wait, Maul, do the first. I fully get it. That's autism. Yeah. Yeah. Maul, do the first verse. I'm checking your smile

Working your back like it's going out of stuff Awful Awful bar Get that shit stinks Nobody wanted That gets no play in the ride You don't play that shit in the house Shake it a little bit faster

Shake just a little bit faster Now What? Get your jump Put your shirt on to get out Man like Dying to do the dying to meet you part Dying to meet you

So let's mess around Got an obsession of us getting down I never jacked John Legend I was never jacking John Legend I don't care with none of y'all say kill me on the internet and the comments I don't give a fuck I was never

a John Legend fan no disrespect to John Legend a solid cool guy seems like that's a definition of disrespect no no no no he seems like a great guy he's he don't hear about him in no fucking crazy headlines and none of that he's just making music and being a family

guy. So no disrespect. But I just was never, I never got the John legend like, when everybody would like nah, the John Legend join. I'm like, yo, y'all really be playing that? Like, where? I bet your mother Jack, John Legend. My mom, that's not saying much. I know when my mom was born. Of course

she is. She grew up with Sinatra. Of course she likes John Legend. Wait, Maude. She loves runs. Like, are you kidding me? Do this, can we do this one too? Well, first of all, let's give him some credit. He did. Do I have a girl We'll technically know. If you be my girlfriend, then we'll make it so.

John, get out the booth with that bullshit. You're doing, man. That shit is trash. He asked for consent, though. You'll be my only true lover. I just need permission. No competition, no. He got some features that he was definitely like he killed, though.

I like John Legend when he just give you the hook and get out of it. When John Legend just give me the hook and get out of there, I'm like, all right, okay, John. It's when he starts doing the outro where I'm like, yo, we didn't need you. Yeah, like when you start giving me too much of your intrusive thoughts, it's like, all right, John, get out the booth, but I don't want to hit it. Him and Ross haven't missed. They have like three or four songs together that are all. So I'm saying, when he's on the hook, great.

He's a hooker. For sure, he's a hooker. One hundred percent. John Legend's a hooker, without a doubt. But don't give me too much. I am living through the years of watching, like. You thought that, you thought that what John was giving right there, you was feeling what he was saying? Do I have a girlfriend?

Well, technically, no. Okay. If you be my girlfriend, now I'll make it so. That motherfuckering beat and everything was hit. And y'all are being weird. That's why the song did so well. It was a good song. It was good because a lot of cruise ships played a shit.

If we go and do lyric breakdowns on a lot of shit. That shit get played on a lot of shit. If we go and do lyric breakdowns on a lot of shit, it was a way. I guarantee you if John Legend do a verses and he played this, the other nigger one no matter what he played. That is some bullshit right there. I guarantee you if Andre 3000 is not on that, it's not even a single. I don't even know if it makes the album. You sound so...

You're smarter than this, though. So, like, listen to you say things like this is just fucking insane to me. That shit would have flopped without three stacks. Bro, when they were playing on a radio to three stacks verse, it barely got there. What the fuck are you talking about? You think that that song even enters the culture

without three stacks on it? I'm ready to go right now. Yes, that was the sound of that era. That was the sound of that era. No, it wasn't. That was actually why that song was cool because it didn't sound like the era. Oh, okay, we're right.

That was the gears where everything was like pop. It was a Justin Timberlake type sounding type shit. Back when that song came out, yes, it was. That shit sounded like something you was going to hear on. What was that? 2009. Did that come out? No, it was earlier than that.

Let's check. 2008. This is off Evolver. All right, so Ryan Leslie was the sound at that time. That sound like some shit that Ryan Leslie would make. No, it don't. Okay. That's why it was actually cool, because it didn't sound like everything that was

happening at the moment when it came. to R&B. Okay. We'll agree to disagree. It's free for us to do that. Ryan needed Fab and John needed Andre. Is that era? Those songs didn't work without rappers?

And we didn't give. But some respect on rap. We didn't get Ryan Leslie enough props either. Oh, that's one of my goats. You got. Ryan Leslie. All Les don't get enough. He don't get talked about it.

I'm still on the side of R. Les for Prez. Yeah. He don't get talked about enough, man. Ryan Leslie is a. That's one of my goats. That's, that. someone on my list. Genius.

I would love to work with. I wanted to pull this up because Mall sent me to this while you guys were arguing. When I let myself go, that's what I'm going to look like. So this is the, the gentleman is on the, on the left is the, he said, he said I already looked like that. I was about to say he looked like he related to Beach, but. It looks like an older simple jack.

No, no, no, no. You're a simple jack. He's the billionaire owner of the Raiders and see my head movies. He's the billionaire owner of the Raiders and the woman on the other side is his current girlfriend who's 26 years old and she said she didn't know

who he was. She was just attracted to his quote beautiful smile. Come on naturally. You see a smile look at that. Yeah. Beautiful. He looks like a fucking... Where are his lips? He looks like the fucking toe after I stub it under bed. He looked like a sloth. Remember you see the sloth in the trees? He look a sloth. You guys don't think

Anna Nicole married for love too? Of course she did. I actually believe Anna Nicole married for love. Of course she did. Can we pull up Anna Nicole? Well, rest and peace, right? Yes, rest in peace. Rest and peace, sir, ex-husband.

Yeah. Two ex-husbands. Because I know that old guy has to be dead at this point. Love at first sight. I respect it. He was dead there. I respect it. He was dead dead.

Damaris. Sorry. That's what Biden would look like if he wasn't the president. Probably so. No, if Biden wasn't the president, he probably looked younger. That fucking job stressing him out. They did a number of Obama, didn't? Yeah.

Smoke Obama. That's eight years. Ooh, he need to sue the government for that. They smoked Obama. He walked in looking like Billy D. Williams and walked out looking like it. Which was crazy because George Bush looked younger after he. Oh, you know why he looked younger. Because he didn't work.

Exactly. All right, Rory. Well, October 17th, we will be in Toronto. Yes. Beautiful, beautiful city. One of my favorite cities in the world. Oh, we know. Tickets available now at new Roryanmall.com. Hope to see all you beautiful people in Toronto.

When I say beautiful people, I mean a very specific type of beautiful women. Which is what? Just beautiful women. Okay. Women. Women. No, but seriously, tickets available now, new Rorynmall.com. Get your tickets now.

Hope to see you soon. All right, man, back home, settling for a couple days. I booked us an opener for Toronto, too. Good, great. Excited. That's a fun. I'm excited too. That should be pretty cool. Love to see the people's reaction to the opener that we have for our Toronto. And we're not trying to make it sound like we have Drake opening, but we do have an artist from Toronto that will open.

Well, I know nobody thinks Drake is opening for our show. I think some people would think that. No, nobody. Well, yeah. I was thinking that. Some people would think that. Some people are crazy. I was hoping. Out of their minds and just dumb. And we know that. But we still love them too. Yeah, so let's get out of here. We'll be back in a couple of days. everybody be safe be blessed it's good to see y'all good to see everybody back healthy smiling Julian smile is amazing today he's to tell he was pulling did oil pull while we were going

coconut oil can see the curls what yeah oh I've been on all natural all natural we'll talk to y'all soon be safe demaris your smiles amazing thank you I'm sorry baby d baby d giving them the lip the red the only girl in the room like you give a compliments to this one to the gay man that's crazy as fuck. All right. Well, that's the climate now. That's the climate.

See, I'm trying to be forward. They think that I'm anti-gay. Shits and gigs. I don't know what I tell you. I'm anti-gay. Homophobic? Yeah, definitely not. We'll talk to y'all soon.

Be safe. Be blessed. I'm that nigga. He's just ginger. Peace. This is an I-Heart podcast. Guaranteed human.