New Rory & MAL - Episode 31 | "Zoovie"
Episode Date: January 11, 2022The guys start off debating whether The Carter 3 is a classic or not … no literally, this is the first sentence, so prepare for a music deep dive. Mal insists Wayne has no classic albums, and Rory a...nd Demaris, as always, disagree with him, and ask him to give an example of a classic album to him, and he insists most “classics” are overhyped. This leads into a conversation about The Weeknd’s Dawn FX release, where the guys try to decipher what kind of woman and situation inspired this album (11:44). They comment on Timbaland’s ‘Thriller’ comparison, and then segue into a conversation about Gunna’s new album, and if he’s a better artist than Lil Baby (36:42). Gunna has all the kids saying “P”… so of course we had to figure out what that meant, and got into some emotional rapper discussions, including a ‘Deuces (Remix)’ breakdown (43:22). Of course we had to battle it out and debate who would win the Jaheim Vs. Usher Verzuz, as well as debate who could actually beat Usher (1:06:27). We also get into some sad sh*t (RIP Bob Saget), some bullsh*t (Did you too have a fake G-Shock?) + more!To donate to the families affected by the tragic fire in the Bronx: https://www.gofundme.com/f/relief-for-families-at-333-e-183rd-st Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoicesSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Off the record. What's the Little Wayne's classic album?
The Carter 3.
Across the world, Carter 3. I think Carter 3 is better.
Carter 3 isn't a classic, though.
Are you high?
Carter 3 is not a classic.
It's not a classic album, bro.
Maugh been saying anything.
It's not.
It's not, bro.
I don't think Wayne has a classic album.
I don't.
I'm not even a Wayne fan.
No, I like the Card of Three is his best album, for sure.
I don't think it's a classic album, though.
Like, when you start saying classic albums, like, I'll start with some Wayne.
Think about the other classic albums we be talking about.
And then think about Carter III.
That word, classic get thrown around too much.
You know what a classic album is, bro?
Let's put on Mrs. Officer.
Shut this nigga up, for real.
He's tripping.
Oh, that's the one you're going to?
Mrs. Officer.
That's my shit.
Wee, we, we, we go.
That's what you're going to?
Bobby Valentino
trying to sound like a soccer
That's what I'm saying.
Like we just got to have them
type of conversation.
Wait, are we recorded?
Oh, we was recording?
Oh, let's get into the real conversation.
All right, we got a sound professional.
This is
underrated beat.
A public service announcement.
Just blazing 15 on and nothing.
Flip the shit out of us.
Little one, WZEF, baby, is the best rapper a lot.
Hit me.
Ha!
Had you Rockafella boy shook when this came out
Y'all was shaking in your chains
Shaking in your button downs
Who was shaking?
The whole squad
You know y'all was nervous when Wayne came out
Why?
Because he wasn't Wayne from the fucking hot boys anymore
It was fucking Dwayne Carter right there
Yeah, but Wayne was it
Come on, Wayne is one of the goats
You know that
Y'all was nervous there
It's a few artists that had y'all shook
And y'all, you mean like Rockefeller?
Yeah
I think Nellie had y'all a little shook
Why, why you laughing?
Nellie went fucking diamond
But when you say shook, what you mean?
A little nervous
It's not so dominant anymore
I mean, but Jay gave him his props
He had to.
He was moving units and impimp juice and us
I know
And then Wayne came
Yeah
And then the company folded
It was Wayne's fault
Wayne ended the dynasty?
Yeah
It was Wayne
It wasn't Cameroon
And Jayze's Puerto Rico trip
That was
That trip did end it all
That's wild
How many relationships
You think have ended
Because of a Puerto Rico trip
Well now
That's our relationship
Start
That's true
You got a fly girl out
To Puerto Rico
How you get her
It's how you lose her
Sometimes
Actually a lot of times
When someone else
wants to fly her past Puerto Rico.
You know, like, that's the thing now.
Like, dudes, like, the first link up is, like, a destination, like a vacation.
Yeah, we've been talking about that.
That's scary.
I don't know how dudes do that.
Like, you don't know what you're signing up for.
No.
Being on an island with somebody you just met?
I'll pass.
No, I'm cool.
I'm totally cool all that.
I wouldn't go to island with you.
With me?
Yeah.
I would.
Well, we're on one right now.
I don't even think...
Yes, we are on the island right now.
But I don't even think we would, like, see each other if we'd, like, on
vacation.
Never would.
Like, it would probably be like in passing.
Like, hey, what's up?
Yeah.
Like at the buffet.
Like, we don't know each other at all.
Anyways, you think Wayne does not have a classic album?
I don't know where we started recording.
Yeah, I don't...
You know what I like to do, man?
I like to listen to when people start debating classic albums.
Like, the word classic, I don't know if it's just, it's thrown around too loosely.
Like, pull up the definition of classic.
I agree that classic is thrown around.
It's too loosely, man.
But to draw the line at Carter 3, I think, is a bit excessive.
And I like Carter 3 a lot.
I just don't know if it sucks.
Because for me, and music is subjective, it's just my opinion.
For me, classic means I keep going back to it.
I keep playing it.
Classic.
This is from Google.
The term classic in hip-hop means any album or single
that not only separates itself from the bunch,
but it does so in such a unique culture, cultural fashion.
Well, thank you, Google, for defying something in hip-hop.
In our culture.
In our culture, right?
The Webster term for classic
judged over a period of time
to be the highest quality
and outstanding of its kind.
Now, do you think there can be,
there's classic
and then there's time period classic?
See how we start cutting dope?
Because I think there's a lot.
You see how we start cutting dope?
Look.
But I think Card of 3 is a classic
across the board.
I don't think it's a time period classic.
Like, I think there's...
I think Carter 3 is a really good album.
I think it's, to me,
again, it's a subjective,
my opinion only.
To me, that's Wayne's best album.
I think,
but I don't know if it's a...
classic album.
Like, classic is what I'm just like, I don't know if I'm, I can say it.
Because when I say classic, I'm thinking of a lot of other classic albums in hip hop.
Okay, but I don't think that that's fair.
Why?
It's hip-hop.
Because a classic just means that it's timeless.
It was recognized as an extremely good, valuable body at work.
And it was.
And also, you can go back to Carter 3 and it doesn't sound, it sounds maybe a little
dated, but you can still listen to it today and not be like, oh, my God, we were
listening to this shit.
Well, all the kids sound like Wayne.
So it still holds up.
Wayne is definitely the father to a lot of these new dudes now, for sure.
Of course.
He definitely birthed a lot of these.
So he's a goat in that sense.
Like he changed the way artists look, the way artists sound, without a doubt.
But I don't know if Carter 3 is a classic album.
It's a really good album.
What would be a classic from that era?
This was, uh, 2008.
If I can read correctly.
What came out in 2008?
graduation was 07
808 was 2008 yeah
that was 2008
that's a classic album
8808 and heart breaks is a classic I think
defined by what it did later
I don't think when it came out
music for sure that's what I'm saying it's a classic in that regard
yeah when it came out people weren't saying it was
no they was actually pissed off at Kanye
exactly now car to 3 was this was the only
shit playing
at that time well it's Wayne
and he's at the
that time he was everywhere. You couldn't
turn on
radio or TV, anything and not here
Wayne. And I'm not saying, because I think Carter
2 is a better album, but if I were to be
objective, yes, absolutely.
Without question. Okay. But
if I had to be objective
and just looking overall at what a classic guy would be
of course Carter 3, that would be his classic.
His classic?
It's a classic. Okay.
It's a classic. It's a different. His classic and
A classic is different.
And somebody that's able to deliver when all the hype is around you,
and this was the most anticipated shit ever,
because after Carter 2, he blew up, blew up, to then deliver.
Yeah, this is a classic.
What's a classic album, you then?
Don't say non-rockettfeld.
No, it's not even about that.
It's just music that I think an album that you can keep going back to
and play top to bottom without skipping any records,
no matter what time period.
That's a classic album to me.
Does that mean the kids have to do it too, though?
Or just the people from that time period?
Because that's a lot of shit, too.
Like, there's classics that I deem classics,
but probably just my generation does.
No, but there's albums that came out
when I was probably too young to really, like,
understand hip-hop and the culture.
And I went back and listened to,
and I'm like, okay, I see why they call this a classic.
Because it still sounds good,
and you can still feel the emotion.
in the music.
You know what I mean?
Like a lot of ice cubes early shit.
Like I didn't understand why people when I was younger, he was like ice cube, ice cube
and I was like I didn't understand it.
And as I started to get a little old, I go back and listen.
I'm like, okay, I get it.
Cube is one of the best.
But does, all right, if we're talking about classic, does that have to also like across
boundaries of age gaps?
Like for example, I think a kid now would go back to an Ice Cube album and probably not
vibe with it musically.
It wouldn't feel timeless to them.
I'm not saying Ice Cube is not timeless.
Please.
sure you get my words correctly. Now I think if they went back to life after death because it had a
bit more commercial appeal and it's easier to listen to, I think a kid now could pick up life
after death and be like, oh, this is amazing. Whereas Ice Q, because his goals were a bit different
to Biggs, it would be deemed not timeless to a lot of people. Again, now you're talking about
the listener, the type of listener. Like I can't speak for- But that's what deems the classic
as a listener. Yeah, but then a lot of people, like undoubtedly classic albums, a lot of
people that listen to music would be like that they don't really like that album. And it's like,
you look at them like they're crazy. Like, how do you not like this album? Like, we're looking
at you right now. Nah. I mean, listen, man, Wayne is a, he's a goat. Like, there's nobody that
can argue that. Like, I would never, he's one of the greatest we've ever had. But when I hear people
talk about classic albums, like Carter 3 a lot, but I don't know if that's, for me, if that's
a classic album. Three Pete, Mr. Carter, Millie, got money comfortable. Dr. Carter, phone home, tie
my hands, Miss Officer, let the beat bill, shoot me down,
Lollipop, Lala, play with fire, you ain't got nothing.
And Pussy Monster was an extra on it as well.
Not very many skips on that.
But some.
Phone home annoyed the fuck out of me, but people love that record.
Phone home was, I thought, going to be the worst record ever.
And then I walked outside and everyone was screaming phone home.
And I was like, everybody was ETO?
Everyone was just screaming at the bus stop phone home.
Yeah.
With a flip on in their hand.
Wayne is, he's definitely one of, you know, my favorite rappers ever, one of my favorite artists.
But, you know, just hearing people talk about classic albums, man.
I just start listening to the albums that they call classic.
And I'm like, I don't know if this is a classic album.
It's a really good album, but I don't know if it's a classic album.
I think what time tells that anyways.
Oh, yeah, I mean.
Rarely is there the instant classic.
Obviously, yeah.
Instant classic is very rare where everybody's like, okay, this is a classic.
The last two that I could think of would be
So far gone and blueprint
I think with the last instant classics that I remember
Maybe college drop out
What man graduation you could make an argument
Yeah
That was kind of an instant classic
I feel like no I feel like it was one that came out a few years ago
To everybody was like
I'm saying rap world
Oh rap world
Yeah not saying R&B world
Like seat at the table was an instant classic to me
Anta was an instant classic to me
but that's not rap
and again this is all subjective
music is you know
matter of opinion
and the type of person you are
but yeah I was just
having conversations
and I'm you know
get to my classic albums
classic classic
it all started off of
Timberland talking about
the weekends album
Dawn FX
is that the name of it
Dawn FM?
Yeah Don FM
people just get excited
when shit comes out
and I feel them
because I sometimes run
to like nah
it's the greatest shit ever
I've been caught up in that before
I've never went to
thriller with it though. Yeah, like and I understand what Timberland was because he
no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, I understand, I understand, I understand, because Timbalin
he's a, he's a producer. So his, the way he listens is different from the way we listen to music.
So I understand the emotion. I think what he, what he was trying to say was this sound
and the way the, the weekend put together this album was so different. Um, I think that it's
definitely going to move how a lot of artists make music to the sound. Because the sound was
something that I didn't expect at all. Neither that. This shit sounds like the soundtrack for
Midnight Run the arcade game. Like, it's great 80s shit. Yeah. So I was like, oh, shit. So I
understand like Timlin is a producer. So he's going to listen different, things are going to move him
differently as far as sound. But to just throw out Thriller out there like that and the album
was out for three days. This is where people got to relax. And the way. And it's not fair to the
weekend to say that. Because it's like, let the weekend be the weekend. Like to put him and say,
oh, this is thriller?
Come on, fam.
Like, that's not fair to the weekend.
When you go back to Korea,
and granted, I think they did it in a very tasteful way.
I don't want to start out with shitting on this album
because I really do like this weekend out of a lot.
Yeah, I do too.
But to say when you go back,
you would say it was 80 influenced.
Yeah.
And then to also sound like Michael Jackson
and then go back to the era in which he's from.
And then Timberlin says,
the biggest album ever is in comparison?
Yeah, that's where I have a little bit of it.
It's like, come on, man.
Like, I like this album.
I think it sounds great.
I think the weekend is the epitome of an artist.
You know, he gets in the character.
He's not afraid to be different.
He's not afraid to experiment.
Yeah, like, he's what an artist should be.
The album is just really dope.
I like it.
It wasn't what I was expecting.
I know a lot of people want the weekend
that sound like House of Balloon still.
But he's not that guy anymore.
Like, he's a different person now.
And I think that it's, you know,
it's not fair to,
want somebody to sound the same exact way
as when you fell in love with them.
I think this was, you know, like in Star Wars,
and I'm not a big Star Wars fan,
so correct me if I'm wrong.
Don't they go like in reverse order?
As far as the story?
Yeah.
Yeah.
So to me, this, like, he's doing his career backwards.
Like, this-
90 years old, an album.
This album is like,
what you do to get to that low part of House of Balloons.
Like, this is the crazy Coke parties
that you was at.
And then House of Balloons is when you come down,
and realize how depressed and hurt
and how much of an addict you are.
He's going backwards.
This is what his emotions look like.
He's not coming out on top.
We're going backwards in the story.
I like it.
I think, again, the sound is,
for him to put this type of music out now
is really, like, dope to me.
I like when artists are not afraid
to just be extremely different,
but then not be weird.
It's not like it's a weird different.
You get it, you understand it.
The content is still something you can relate to,
like the shit he's talking about.
Oh, he definitely, I think a young, I think why he's old on this album cover is because he's actually starting to feel that way in the women he deals with.
They're draining his soul?
Yes.
I don't think he can keep up the way.
You know, like when you got into your 30s and then you tried to go out with people in their 20s and you're just like, okay.
I got to slow down.
I'm starting to feel a little older than I thought I was.
This whole album sounds like to me that he's trying to keep up with a young girl at the party.
This is a young girl that doesn't give him.
fuck who he is, what he does,
all that easy pussy doesn't work in anymore.
He's like really, he's fucked up over this girl
that doesn't particularly care about him.
She'll let him fuck, but she don't really care.
Yeah, this music is like when you go to the club
and then she wants to go to the after hours
and then go to breakfast
and then like go to yoga.
And it's like, yo, we haven't been asleep yet.
Listen, and then he ended, damn near ended the album
in this whole storyline with, and then I heard you was married.
She's like, so?
Yeah.
Yeah, I like it.
I think this album is really good.
But yeah, Timberlin got to relax, though.
He threw a thrill out there way too prematurely.
Like, come on, man.
That's not fair.
That's not fair.
He saw Quincy was on it and was like, oh, it must be.
But see, even that type of shit, those type of interludes.
That's crazy.
Jim Carrey.
You know what I mean?
Like, it's like, yo, I like shit like that, man.
And again, I didn't, when we first listened to it, we was calling it Diet Coke.
It was kind of like the St.Cope.
This ain't, you know what I mean?
But after living with it over the weekend, like, this album is really dope.
I like this album a lot.
Yeah, and I think this is one of those live as well.
And he's definitely stepped up because for the people that don't remember,
when weekend first came out, his live show, like Rihanna as well,
was very criticized.
Yeah.
It was like, all right, now we know what he's bad at.
And he improved tremendously.
No, he's gotten better.
Yeah.
Dance, just everything.
I noticed that at a Super Bowl performance, we spoke about that.
I was like, yo, he's gotten better with his vocals.
Yeah.
His live vocals have gotten extremely better than they were when he first got
the weekend. And I think he's less insecure in that and wants to make more upbeat music that
is for arenas and is to actually be performed rather than some of the sadder stuff where it's just
like, yeah, I'm a stand up on stage and, you know, whine. I definitely would like to see the
weekend do a visual to all this whole album. Yeah. Like, write like a movie, but like, make it,
you know, like a music video. Like, like, like, like, like a, you know, like a music video.
Like, like, like, like, like a, you know, like a music video. Like, like, like a, you know,
Let's be clear, but the fact that it's the 80s sound and he's such an artist, like his visuals and everything.
You know, I would like to see him make a video to all of these, but incorporate it.
Do it in kind of like a movie scripted way.
It's interesting, man.
The 80s, the 80s, the 80s with pop music just is not going away.
And I mean that a good way.
It just hasn't, like the 90s pop has not returned at all.
Like they don't really grab from the 90s pop wise to me.
very much.
R&B for sure.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
But I think a lot of the 90s pop stuff was more leaning into the MTV boy band girl.
It was definitely a boy band ever.
And that stuff, as much as it's timeless to me because I was a kid when it happened.
No one really grabs from that very much.
They grab from 90s R&B.
Yeah.
Pop 80s is.
80s pop was scent heavy.
You know, it was just, it was a different vibe.
Like the 90s pop became a little corny.
It wasn't as cool as 80s pop.
I think 80s just figured out electronics right away
and figured out the best way to do it.
And we've been trying for three decades.
To like, all right, let's try something new.
It's like, nah, let's go back.
Even 808s kind of derives a lot of it from fucking 80.
Like, Robocop is an 80s pop song.
Right.
So much of that.
So any of you can even hear on a lot of the sense
with Donda and some of the drums they use,
it's 80s pop music.
80s is definitely the bed.
the bedrock for a lot of the scent sound.
If you're going to try to bring back that scent sound,
you're going to listen to a lot of the 80s pop artists, for sure.
And if you talk to my dad, that's what killed music.
Like, if you talk to a lot of people, like, 80s pop music, like,
was the divide in music because it went so electronic.
And, like, of course, that came from disco first.
But so much 80s kind of put the fucking nail into the board of, like,
all right, this is here to fucking stay.
Electronic music is here.
See, I think 80s pop
inspired 90s R&B in a weird way.
Sure, I can see that.
You know what I mean?
Like, if you listen to a lot of 90s R&B,
the production on a lot of 90s R&B,
it's a lot of scent.
The drums are like, you know,
a lot of 80s pop.
And even, you know, a lot of shit
that they sampled was a lot.
Chaka Khan shit was then turned into so much
in 90s flips from bad boy and all of shit.
but yeah I don't know how we got an 80s tangent
but it was just
it's just funny that 80s music is still
very much the most relevant
sound to some degree when it comes to pop music
but I do want to get into
no one talking about this album
the weekend you would say is one of the biggest artists on earth
right for sure absolutely
any genre one of the biggest ever
not ever but I'm saying for our time
I didn't see one person talking about it
online you mean yeah
I mean
is the weekend the artists that they talk about online though?
Yes.
Is he?
100%.
People wait.
And there wasn't a single on this, was there?
No.
Is this just another?
I know we have to always find a way to big up Beyonce.
Is this just another way that certain artists, meaning only one, can do the surprise album shit?
You would think the weekend could do a surprise album.
Because this was a week in advance, he posted album cover, and that was it.
Does he?
I mean, do you care though if people talk about it?
about it, if the album is good?
No, listen, I don't care about numbers
at all. I care about if the music is good and that's
all that matters. But because we do talk
about music on the show so much and so much of our
fans are invested in music the way we are,
we can see, especially when one of the
biggest artists on Earth is
putting an album out and no one is talking about it.
I saw more people talking about
why Drake was taking off Gunner's album,
a song that doesn't really exist
being talked about more than an album
from one of our biggest artists.
That's crazy to me.
And I don't know if it's because the times we're in.
Well, could it be because he doesn't have a lot of features?
Like, he doesn't have many features on this album.
I think maybe it, what, three?
Tyler, Wayne and, I think that might have been it.
Yeah.
Well, outside of Jim Carrey and Quincy Jones.
Thriller didn't have any features.
Yes, it did.
Paul McCartney.
Little Wayne and Paul McAardt.
Same.
Same.
Tyler and Paul.
Yeah.
But that shocked me.
Yeah, that's a little shocking for one of the biggest artists.
of his time not to be, whenever his album drops, not to be talked about.
But I really don't, like me, I don't really go online and really pay attention to see
who people, like the artist that people are talking about.
So I wouldn't know.
Like, if you saw that, if you didn't notice that, then I mean, that is, that is weird, though.
It is weird when the biggest artist, well, one of the biggest artists of his time
puts an album out and everybody isn't talking about it.
But that kind of goes back to our classic conversation of impact in what everyone's
talking about.
Like, can you have a classic album if no one talks about it?
I don't care how good the music is.
Can you have a classic album and nobody?
I don't think that's possible.
Yeah.
If it's a classic album,
everybody's talking about it.
Exactly.
So sometimes, yeah,
it doesn't just matter how good the music is.
People talking about something and impact,
which can be tied into sales,
fucking matters.
And when you don't do the tricks and the bundles
and all the marketing tools,
who do you really reach?
Do you just reach your algorithms?
Right.
Like, do we follow?
Do we follow the weekend, like, is our algorithm and the weekend fans, like, is it intertwined?
He should, how big he is, he should be in everyone's algorithm.
He's just that big of an artist where no matter what it should be there and it should be
at the top of any conversation just by proxy.
Like, there's huge artists that aren't even in this genre or a culture that we know
when an album comes out.
We're not going to go run and listen.
Taylor Swift puts out an album, you guys are going to know it exists.
Not saying you're going to run because that's not your shit.
but you won't know that that album is out.
There's no way you won't.
I saw that kind of happened with Justin Bieber
the last album. I didn't see anyone really talking about it
and it fucking threw me. I was like,
all right, Justin, I know he's kind of been on and off
but he's still Justin fucking Bieber.
And the weekend too, like this felt like,
remember when he did that little EP?
I forgot the name. It wasn't bad though.
I saw a minimal talk about that and I was like,
eh, it was just because it was an EP.
Then I went to go look at this thinking this may be the same thing
it's a full-blown fucking album
with incredibly expensive production.
Right.
And Quincy Jones and Jim Carrey.
It says as of Monday,
well,
it was being reported that Dawn FM
will move approximately
150,000 to 170,000 copies
in its first week out.
And we decided not to ship any physical copies out as well.
Well, that's nonetheless incredible
to sell 150,000 units.
What did he sell in his last one?
The highlights, I don't really count as an album.
Why not?
It was a bunch of,
old records and like it was like a compilation of his career like i don't count that as an
album at all after hours we'll call remember he did the crazy marketing for that shit too like that
was the last real weekend album to me um and that he went out and did what damaris the first week
sales um to 4444 444000 of those were in pure sales um to 4444 414000 of those were in pure sales
So granted, again, I'm really not the numbers guy, and I really am not trying to focus on him selling less.
I'm talking more about the impact and what's been going on.
And I don't know if that's to do with the times.
I don't know if that's to do with weekend fans growing up and just have kids and not paying attention as much.
But that's a drastic drop, especially after you do the Super Bowl.
Yeah, that's more than half.
Because you would think even at the height, if you're doing the Super Bowl, that means my mom knows who you are.
And my mom would be not invested, but if you put an album out, would know about it and would at least want to listen.
She knows your music.
Your mom knows the weekend's music.
She does.
But I don't think she knows that the weekend put out an album.
Right.
I'll see what you mean.
Like at all.
Now, before, yeah, I think she knew.
I'm just speculating on what's going on.
It's weird, man.
Like, you just, you know, sometimes when you're, you know, you put an album out and you do almost half a million in sales, it's kind of hard to keep.
keep that same
that's not, you know what I mean?
It's fucking almost impossible.
Yeah, it's like, so is it, is this a fail
for him to be doing 170?
No, no.
First week?
But, well, here's the thing.
His thing.
I don't know.
I don't know what he spent.
I don't know what his expectations were.
I don't know what, what's he going?
Republic, what Republic expected out of it.
Granted, they did know singles and really no promo.
So I don't know what their expectations.
I don't know if they thought the weekend was someone that maybe he's not.
Who is he not, though?
Maybe he's not this gigantic pop star
He is though
We can't we know he is
But once you do the Super Bowl
Like you're you're a pop star
You're that I agree
But if you put out an album and do
150 when you used to do 400 on the last one
It'd still be a pop star
Don't get me wrong
You're still an icon but
I don't think
You are who we thought you were before
But like you say
Did he have a single for this album?
No
That could be
you know, part of it.
For sure.
You know what I mean?
Like that sometimes people just don't know what's coming.
They don't know what's happening.
Then you drop the album and it's like, oh, so maybe this is going to be a slow burn.
Yeah.
You know what I mean?
Like maybe he'll do it.
If he does 170 again next week.
Listen, I'm also of the belief that especially in these times, you can do more with the post rollout than the pre-rollout.
Absolutely.
Like you could put the shit out and then let's work the album once it's out rather than working up to it.
So this could be a.
a master class in this and we just don't know yet.
But I have to bring up and ask and talk about why it was so quiet around one of the biggest artists.
It was definitely...
Of the last 20 years.
It definitely didn't feel like his album dropped in comparison to other albums.
But the album was still good.
I liked it.
I didn't think I was going to like it after the first listen.
It just was like, okay, he's on his 80s, 80s pop shit right now.
But after listening to it over the weekend, I really liked this album, though.
I get it.
understand, you know, he's different. He's not trying to sound like nobody. He's not trying to
duplicate what he already did in his past with other, with other projects. And to me, that's what
being an artist is. It's like, you know, let me create something different. Let me, let me be different.
Let me separate myself from everything that's going on. I don't want to look like nobody.
I don't want to sound like nobody. I want to be myself. So I salute that period from any artist,
once they move on their own and try to do their own thing. But then he delivered. The sound of the
album is dope. It's not too far left. I get it. Like I said, it threw me off the first listen. I was
like, I wasn't expecting this, but it's a good album. Oh, so we are incorrect, though.
That happens a lot. Take my breath. Yeah, right? All the time. It did have a lead single.
August 6th, 2021, Take My Breath Came out. I've never heard of that song. The first time I heard that song
was on the album. It was on the album. And then obviously when it came out, January 7th,
sacrifice is the next single.
Do we think the weekend needs to go back
to giving his music to other people?
No.
No, I don't think so.
Absolutely not.
I would love to hear other people
on this type of sound with him producing it.
Don't get me wrong.
But he, I'm still not sick of the weekend.
I still think he's an incredible fucking artist
and is nowhere near his downfall
as far as music goes.
No, I'm never going to look at first week's sales.
No, of course not.
He's falling off.
Like, no.
I'm never that guy.
I'm just raising questions on
certain stuff around it.
But I think it'll be a slow burn.
I think this album is going to grow on people.
I think once he put the,
does he have a video out yet for any of these records?
I believe so.
Because you know that's what, you know,
once you put out of his visuals, especially.
I'm sure there's one for sacrifices that came out.
Probably the day the album did.
And maybe take my breath.
I'm not aware of it.
And I think that might be the problem.
I don't know if he's doing that on purpose.
I don't know if his label is dropping the ball,
but I'm not seeing promo for this album.
Between his management and Republic
and how they've worked weekend before,
pause, if applicable.
No, I can't see them dropping the ball, per se,
because they know what works for him.
And that's why I'm curious why they went to this.
Of course, and that's kind of why I'm curious
why they went this route.
But either way, what did you think of Quincy's therapy?
I mean, we've seen the documentary.
And, um...
Well, for those that didn't.
Didn't see the, well, if you haven't seen the Quincy Jones documentary, first and foremost,
you should absolutely turn that documentary on and watch that.
But, I mean, that part of it was dope that he used for the album.
That ended up with Quincy talking, talking about his relationship with women and how it affected
him.
He didn't realize that until later on in his life, how his relationship of not having
his mother and his mother not being in his life affected his relationship with women.
I thought it was dope for the week to include that in his album.
Especially with his type of content and the shit that he talks about.
I thought that that was cool to put that in the album.
Especially because in my theory of how this album works with just this long-ass Coke Party,
those are the people that are at the Coke Party.
Yeah.
The people with abandonment issues.
Abandonment issues.
That's why I've been to the Coke Party.
Yeah.
I mean, you know what it is.
Like, the weekend is not giving you the same House of Balloons, but it's like, it might be helium balloons now.
It's not like, you know.
Not a go back.
House of Balloons is the result of this album.
After you do everything on this album, you then get into the depths of what House of Balloons is.
That's the result.
It's the backward Star Wars theory on this one.
You face all your abandonment issues on House of Balloons after you go through this party chasing the girl that doesn't really give a fuck about you, but will still let you beat.
and that blows your mind because it's never happened to you before.
Or he went through all of that and now he understands, he recognizes why he went through all
of that shit like, oh, I'm still heartbroken over this and I didn't have this in my life
and I'm missing this and I'm chasing this feeling.
So it can be that too.
Yeah, you're not mad at the girl.
You just mad you don't really like you because your mother never liked you.
Exactly.
And you don't understand that yet.
You know what I mean?
You haven't identified that yet.
So you already have another family?
That's sick
Listen, I analyze this album
That's sick
That's a sick
As thought man
I think this is a very intricate
Track list
In how he did everything
I've literally pictured
This entire album in my mind
Of the weekend
Just running around the same club
Like just not
Just not figure out
Why this girl does not like him
Like track three is how do I make you love me?
Yeah
Listen to that
How do I make you love me
And then take my breath
Mm-hmm
Is there someone else?
You gotta just look at the
Like look at the titles
Every angel is terrifying
Have you ever had a girl
Let you beat and you really like to
And you're usually the one
That leaves the situation
Like you'll fuck girl and be like
Oh it's not working out whatever
Then that one time happens
Where you beat
And she wants to leave
And you can't figure out
Why the fuck she wants to leave
So now you become obsessed over it
And almost fucking paranoid
And you start liking the girl more
Because she fucking left
And you don't know why
That's what this album is about to me
To me
of a man's ego.
Like, you just want to know why.
Yeah.
Like, you want to know why she's leaving.
Exactly.
Like, it's just a common, like,
tell me why you're leaving.
And now I got to make you like me.
Now I got to prove some shit.
Yeah.
Which is terrible.
And that's just abandonment issues
and that's what Quincy is talking about.
Life is crazy.
And then Jim Carrey at the end is like,
I told you you regret this shit.
Like, you ever stay out to the party till four,
like, I'll stay another hour.
Then you get in the cab and you're like,
why did I stay out this late?
I think about that as soon as I get to the party.
Where am I here?
I told myself on the couch.
Don't get up.
Why am I here?
This shit is trash.
This shit is terrible.
Every time I go out, I tell myself that.
For sure.
This is the before hours.
When you go out with us,
you have fun.
I have, well,
I have fun.
I'm not going to say I don't have fun.
But it definitely be like,
yo, we could have did this somewhere else.
It could have just been us somewhere.
We didn't have to come here
with like 200 other people.
This venue, this much money.
Yeah, it's like, yo, we could have went somewhere else
more low-key.
Like, I'm that guy now.
I just hate this.
being around a bunch of, because, yo, energy is a real thing, man.
And, like, when you partying with a bunch of, like, somebody said something, they said,
yo, the whole thought of going out, like, just the whole process of actually going out to a club is built off of, like, anxiety.
Like, from dealing with the person at the door to getting in, to getting a table, all of that.
It's like, by the time you go through all of that energy and emotion to dealing with people, you want to drink.
You're like, I need a drink.
Yeah.
And then if, like, you're in the club soap, like, I don't drink.
Like, I don't drink.
So if you're in the club sober,
being in the club sober is the worst shit in the world.
Oh, you don't be sober, though.
I mean, I smoke.
But that's a different, though.
It's a different type of thing.
It's different than drinking.
I never understood people that could be sober.
I can barely be drunk in the club.
Being sober in the club is the worst.
Fuck, like, the music.
You be like, yo, this shit is loud.
You notice everything when you're sober.
Like, yo, this shit is loud.
This girl is pissing me off.
Like, why is she yelling?
Why is she walking around barefoot?
Like, somebody's throwing up over here.
What club are at?
Oh, that's every club.
That's every night.
I mean, the club crowd is almost like the frequent flyer crowd to me.
Like, you just literally at every checkpoint you're complaining about something.
Everything.
And all you're doing is talking to strangers about the similar complaints.
And that's how you form bonds.
And it's like, why are we doing this in the first place?
Why do we continue to do this to ourselves?
It's just weird, man.
Like, you go to complain.
Right.
Because at the club, there's more people complaining than having fun.
Oh, absolutely.
Absolutely. It's mad people looking at everyone going like,
these people are so fake. I'm so sick on.
Nah, we're all fake.
Yeah.
You're here too.
And now it's nasty because everybody's on their phone.
Like you go to a party now, everybody's on their phone.
Security's on their phone.
Unless Carl's DJ.
Then they're dancing and twerking.
They're crying.
No, if Carl...
Talk about their dad touched them.
Like, it's...
Mall.
What party is that?
My New Year's Eve party.
It was great.
Oh my God.
Wait, seriously?
I want to know how Mall would have moved in that party.
You would have fun at that one.
Because no one was on their fucking.
Like a Skype book.
Like a SIPIPA.
I was joking.
Oh, okay.
That was a different party.
I'd have been on my phone calling the Uber quick.
Like I know where this is headed.
Listen, you guys put me in a room in L.A. with a girl that told me she just had an abortion.
So I don't want to hear from any of them.
That was sick.
It'd be some sick shit going on, Dee.
Like, you know what you see?
I'll be in my hotel.
This is what I'm saying.
It'd be some sick shit going on out here, man.
Well.
Like, I don't ever want to know, like, just telling somebody just had an abortion is just crazy.
Who wants to hear that?
Why are you telling us that?
Maybe I'm very pro-life.
It's your eyes.
She looked in your eyes.
I have kind eyes.
You have kind eyes.
She just felt like she was in a safe space.
No, people can see.
There's people I run into who are like, oh, I can see a certain sadness about you.
So I can relate.
I think she saw that and was like abortion.
And I was like, whoa.
Whoa.
That was a little fast.
Tell me about how you guys broke up first.
What's his name?
Your boyfriend, not the baby.
Yeah.
All right.
So who else?
Yeah.
Gunna, Gunna put out album.
I don't know if you heard it.
I heard it in the Maris.
I like it, man.
I like the Gunn album.
And I'm not a huge Gunna fan at all.
I mean, I recognize he's talented.
But this album is, I like it.
I was very surprised.
I was like, yeah, I wasn't going to listen to it.
But I was like, you know what?
Let me get into the Gunner wave a little bit and see.
Yeah.
Because I've heard songs and I'm like, he could obviously make records.
For sure.
Tell the audience your hot take.
I don't know if it's a hot take
I don't think he said it and I didn't think it was hot take me and what we spoke about
it's not hot take I said uh in talking to De Maris earlier
I said um I think Gunna makes
better albums than Little Baby
he makes better records
Little Baby is obviously a better rapper
I think Little Baby's last album I have to listen to Gunnar one
was the first time I felt like oh baby's an artist for real
he can make no yeah prior to that I always thought you
Gunna makes better songs I think I think Gunna is the better
better songmaker,
Little Baby's the better rapper.
Yeah, I don't think that's a crazy idea.
That's not a hot take.
That's not a hot take.
But listening to this Gunna album,
I really liked this album a lot.
I was really surprised
at how good it was.
A couple of records on it
that I really like.
Listening to it for the last three days.
He put together a really dope project,
man.
The features are dope.
21 Savage's,
but I thought that 21 Savage's verse
on Ross's album
was probably 21 Savage's best verse.
Have you heard his verse on Cole's album?
The verse that he got...
21 Savage could rap, bro.
I know you pure as gonna kill me.
He put out a good album.
21 Savage could rap.
It may not be the way you want to hear rap.
Yeah, no, he can't.
But 21 Savage is saying some shit and rapping.
I still think the verse on Ross album
might be his best, his best verse though.
It's a good verse.
Yeah, I think that might be...
Revisit that cold one, though.
He was getting in the same shit Quincy was getting into.
I'm gonna check it out.
He would say, though, I only fuck with hoes
because that's the bitches that accept me.
Okay.
Like, I like you.
You good girl, chick.
Yeah, you're not for me.
Yeah.
No, he gets it.
This gunned album is really good, though.
I'm not going to lie.
I really like this album.
How's the Chloe record?
The Chloe record was dope.
The record with him and Kodak is dope.
The record with him and Chris Brown and Young Blues is dope.
I like Youngblood.
The So Far Head Empire record is dope.
A lot of cake was dope.
So it was a classic.
No, I'm not going to say that.
But this is a good album.
This is a good album, man.
So this is basically it takes a nation.
No, this is
I think that this album
If weekend is thriller, then
No, okay
Yeah, I don't know with Timlin
Again, Timlin just had a moment
He had a moment
I do love that the
Going to the basketball game together
Rollout still has not died
It's still extremely successful
Because I saw Chloe was on the album
I was like oh shit Chloe's on the album
And I was like
Oh, they went to the game together
This was already planned
You know you gotta go to the game
Shit court side
You know how it is man
Listen, man. Chris Brown and Rihanna put out
Ain't nobody's business after that shit
and then sat court side on Christmas.
Yeah.
That wasn't hard?
How come the picture of them, you know how we have
like all those iconic pictures and all that shit of our time?
I want that shit hanging in my house.
Like that needs to be on an urban outfiters t-shirt.
That needs to be in a moment?
Yeah, though.
The two of them at the game on Christmas Day?
Like a Carucci home baking cookies?
Yeah.
That's wild, man.
Some sick shit going on in our culture, me.
Y'all don't sit back and really think about
the shit that goes on, man.
Here's the thing.
I don't think the celebrities are the sick ones.
I think they identify how sick we all are
and just cater to our sickness.
Well, the celebrities just find a way,
they're like us.
They just find a way to talk about how sick they are better.
And they make us dance to them saying how sick they are.
But I think that's the celebrity genius at the end of the day.
It's not their actual talent.
It's identifying what is sick about us.
and then entertaining us.
Yeah.
Putting it a nice melody.
Yeah.
Ain't nobody's business
and then we're going to go to the game
together on Christmas Day
which is like the number one viewed shit ever
in the fucking Staples Center.
That's the sickest thing ever, bro.
Listen, man, you know,
the artist, celebrities are humans too, man.
They just want to have fun, do their own thing.
They just in the spotlight
and things get magnified differently.
That's all.
And that's how I had to respect Roddy Rich
because they tried to get him
with the at the game rollout
with sweetie
he was sleep
Roddy said you
I was there first
No he did
He fucking lying
His response is like I sat down first
He was sleep
For some of that game
I was at that game
In LA
He was sleep
He was asleep
I'm gonna catching some Zs
I promise y'all
Roddy Rich was sleep
For some of that
Caught a nap
I'm telling you he had his shades on
But he was sleep
Yeah you know what's funny
I don't think he does like
I don't think he's one of them
Drug kids either
He was probably just really tired
Tired
And they probably
Like you said
They make you go
there, sit court side, like put your big chain on, put some shades on, and just sit down.
Sit next to sweetie.
He was sleep.
He was definitely sweet.
When they asked him that, and that response, I was there first, is the funniest fucking
response to a seat ever.
Yeah.
But it's real, though.
Like, nigga, I didn't know she was coming.
I was here and then they tapped me and say, yo, sweetie, we're going to sit sweetie next to.
We hit the same scalper out front.
What you want from me, bro?
Sweetie hitting the scalper is crazy.
Yeah, you got some court sides available?
Oh, man.
Since you guys were listening to the Gunner album all weekend,
can someone explain what P is to me?
With P?
I saw that all over my timeline.
Like, do something dope and then insert P.
Like, if you are loyal, that's P.
If you don't fuck other bitches in a relationship.
I don't know that sling.
I don't know what that means.
I don't know what P means.
Is it, is it?
Where's Julian what we need?
I don't know.
I don't know.
It seemed like it was a great.
They basically took the weekend away from Justin LaBoy.
I see what their social team was doing over there
were Gunner and I applaud it.
They was just taking the meme game.
Yeah.
It was quiet for your brother this weekend.
Yeah.
Everything was on Gunner.
Gunner had it on smash.
Justin LaBoy and Justin LaMann could not speak at all.
Justin LaMann.
That's a nasty-ass name.
That's Biggs, that's Biggs, uh, aka you ain't know.
Justin Laman.
I'm sitting here like, who's Justin LaMann?
But yeah, I just saw those memes everywhere.
Yeah, we got to find out what P means.
So DeMaris found out what it meant.
P means player or pimp.
Yeah.
Pimp and player.
What else was it, DeMaris?
Pure.
Keep it pure.
Keep it pure.
See, you don't keep it pure enough.
How could something mean pure and pimping?
That's the beauty of our culture.
No, it's amazing.
That's the beauty of our culture right here, Roar.
We can just take words.
Because sometimes keeping it a pippin, it's keeping it pure.
And you got to be player at the same time you're keeping it pure.
Yeah, and pimping.
And player.
can mean multiple women or not lying to any women.
See, we're about to fall into a whole...
I'm just saying, I can go to a bunch of different ways.
About to fall in a whole different conversation now, Roar.
Because keeping a player means you're keeping it real with all of them.
But then also a player is somebody that has a bunch of women
that he's not keeping it real with.
Yeah, we got to start calling out, like,
Medoos, like, I'm keeping it player.
Because a lot of the times you ain't keeping it player.
You're just saying you're keeping it player, but you're emotional.
Oh, for sure.
And keeping it player, a big part of keeping it player
is not being emotional at all.
And I think that's the part that a lot of people forget.
Like keeping the player means cool.
Like I'm not, no matter how this goes, I'm not going to get ruffled.
My feathers are not going to ruffle.
I'm not going to get upset.
I'm not going to be angry.
I'm not going to stalk you.
I'm not going to be texting you, blowing your phone up.
Keep it cool.
Well, here's the thing.
I'm not going to say.
I'm not going to cop to all of that.
But I used to front, like, I didn't give a fuck and I was player.
I want I give a fuck.
I'm not one of those people with anything.
I give a fuck.
And I'm emotional.
100%.
I'll admit.
All the time?
Yeah.
But I can control my emotions.
It's not mean that they're not there and that I don't express them.
No, I'm not stalking you.
I'm not fucking calling you 30 times.
I'm not one of those people just because I have things to do that day.
But that just takes a lot of free time to do that.
But I am 100% emotional.
And I think that's a more P thing, if you will.
Like, I will admit when I'm hurt and I will tell you why I'm hurt.
Keeping it purely emotional.
Yes.
I'm double P.
I'm on PPP loan
Yeah, yeah, yeah, you keep it purely emotional
I can loan out my emotions
I think that
You know, it's funny
A lot of the times you listen to
We listen to the music that we listen to
And you know, a lot of these artists
Be talking that
Play your shit
And they have, you know, they have pimp
And this
They got all the women
And
But it's like when you meet some of the women
They deal with in real life
And like they start showing you like
Text messages
You're like, that's not him
That's not him
That can't be him
That's him
It happens way more than y'all think of this.
I wish people understood that.
And not like I've ever asked for it.
Women will just show me.
Because like when you're just friends with women,
you have a different relationship with them.
Absolutely.
And they're also used to men not just wanting to be friends with them.
So then they just look at you like, you're the gay bestie.
And I'm like, y'all, I don't need to see that.
But that's hysterical.
It's funny when you start, like, wait, no, that's not him.
Yeah, man.
You got me fucked up.
You just met him like last week.
How you got him fucked up in a week?
But you do know.
like artists by definition are the most emotional people on earth.
That's why that's why it's so funny.
For sure.
But that's why rap is so funny because it's like, all right, you're never supposed to talk
about crimes.
That's the rule.
And rap is only talking about crimes or rap is supposed to be this machismo macho shit.
Yet you're an artist.
Right.
You're an emo fuck.
I don't care what you do.
If you are into art.
There's some emotion to be a good artist.
Absolutely.
So that's why it's just the catch.
22 of hip hop back to how words can mean two different things in the culture is it's great
it's just funny because those are the most emotional people absolutely i don't know if you want
to say on mic or off i'll say future is a emotional motherfucker like he's not this fucking i think we
know that i think the cat's out the bag he's he's not this like crazy toxic fuck mad bitches i don't
care no he's no he's he's doing that every last one of his baby mothers no he's doing that
but he's there's also a lot of motion behind that off the mic you know what i mean like and that's
The part that a lot of dudes don't see is like, y'all listen to this shit if y'all want to.
It sounds great blaring through the speakers in the club and everybody's drinking, smoking.
See them text messages, though.
What's the future song on Certified Lover Boy that I love?
Way too sexy.
No, the other one.
Oh, I thought that was your shit.
The other one.
On Certified Lover Boy?
When he says on the hook, she'll fuck me for that AP.
She'll fuck me for that AP.
She'll fuck me for that AP.
No, Future killed that shit.
That record is incredible.
Into Deep.
One of my favorites off that album.
I don't think people are listening to future.
He's crying out.
She'll fuck me for the AP.
He's not happy about that.
He's disgusted with his life and disgusted with the people that are around him.
Being disgusted that she's fucking for a watch.
Like, y'all are hearing a hook.
I am hearing help me.
Like, help me.
Look who I'm around.
She'll fuck me for that AP.
He's crying.
I mean.
He just, like, got some bad bitches that will fuck me for the AP.
look at he's crying.
Yes, he is.
And bad bitches.
Yes, he is, 100%.
Have you ever seen a comedian
tell an amazing joke
and amazing bit
that has a dark undertone to it?
He didn't react that way
when this story happened.
Like, he's really hurt about this.
He's just making a joke about it.
Artists, it may sound good on the record.
It wasn't good when it happened.
Yeah, it's coming from a place of hurt.
He was running around his house upset
that all these bitches just want to fuck him
for an AP.
I would be upset too.
I would, I'd be living.
I would be upset to
if all these bitches
just wanted to fuck me
for a watch
I would be like
all right man
where's my life at
do I have any value
Yeah like I'm here
Like somebody talk to me
Do you view me
Any substance
Yeah like somebody
Have a conversation with me
Like get to know me
Speaking of the player shit
Andre 3000 on Deuce's remix
I'm gonna keep a player
I won't tell you all the details
The seven verses before him
Told you every detail
You could ever fucking think of
Of every relationship they were ever in
But that's why 3,000 is different
Because
Oh no, he went on to tell some details.
Don't get to Twitch him.
You know, he did, but he heard all those other verses.
And he was like, oh, that's what y'all doing?
All right, I'm not doing that.
Can we...
Uh-oh.
Can I give a hot take?
Yeah.
And it's one I really...
Is it a hot take, though?
It's not the hot take of reason saying Fab is better than Andre 3000.
Okay.
We can get into that later.
It's not one of those hot takes.
Okay.
Deuce's remix is terrible.
To get that crew of legends together
and for each of them to spit one of their
worst verses ever as a collective
is
a foot in itself.
Three stacks isn't even that good on that.
See, now I've got to listen to it. It's been so long since I heard that.
Favs starts his verse out with drizzly
voice.
No, all right.
Kanye comes in
after you had to remember the time
of when it happened.
Talk about emotional.
That whole ambush shit was happening publicly.
He came on that deuce's remix. Didn't even think about
rhyming. You know what? You're a bitch.
Get your shit right off.
You know what?
Get your shit off.
Yeah, it's therapy.
Then Drake took that fucking amazing beat and was like, 40.
Let's ruin it with some keys.
It was not.
I just landed.
I'm sitting in my hotel room.
Man, get Tiger's verse back on this shit.
I can't let you do that.
Now, I got to listen to it.
That's why Tiger talk the shit he needs to because he bodyed.
T.I. Drake, Ross, three stacks.
Kanye, he bodied everybody on that.
Kevin McCall bodied everybody on that.
Kevin McCall, his verse was dope on that.
I remember that.
I like Drake's verse.
I think Drake's verse has the best verse on the remix.
I like Drake's verse, sort of.
I enjoy Kanye's the best.
But like when that beat Knock and then we just got to stop for the breakdown,
this was a classic.
Oh, yeah.
If you was around for this, just that intro.
Y'all wasn't outside.
Shit.
This was that shit.
Who was on Twitter when that came out?
Ooh.
Me, for sure.
All that bullshit's for the birds?
You ain't nothing but a vulture.
You heard Chris getting his shit off.
That had been the most tweeted bar, I think, of all the time.
One of them for sure.
IG caption highest ever.
But let's get to the actual news.
We already know what Chris did on that shit.
And we know what TIGA did.
Put some respect on his name.
Who wants to see TIGG in a versus?
There's some blue of a few people.
One thing I can say about Tiger is no matter what,
when he comes out with a single, it's going to be a hit.
It's going to ring off.
Yeah, no, he keeps a record for sure.
Yeah, no, it's always.
All right, man.
Drake's one of my favorite ball time.
But when this beat, knock,
save this for the last first.
We're in our bag.
We love this song.
Now of a sudden, we just got to have this.
We killed that.
You're a hater.
This is a whole new song.
Just changed the song.
But that was hard, though.
So a hit shift.
Yeah, that part was hard.
I liked the breakdowns in songs and that one not on this beat.
And then don't tell me, don't tell me you in your hotel room.
But you got to realize that that was coming off of, I think, was Marvin's room out back then?
Oh, that took me back.
Was that?
I think this was pre- Marvin's room.
I think it was pre- Marvin's room, too.
This was definitely pre-Rivin's room.
Look that up.
Yeah.
Because Marvin's room.
was like, yeah.
Now, Drake killed that.
Now I'm remembering it.
I'm waiting in my hotel room.
Seems like...
He don't rap like that.
Come on, man.
He don't rap like that.
He rap better.
Yeah.
I think she'll be able to tell soon.
But I feel right, I will.
All right.
And me without no breaks.
Oh, I'm with...
For goodness sakes.
You with all those curse and me without no breaks.
Oh, I'm with...
That was my picture captioned for years.
And they say, you had all those curves, don't look me in my eyes.
But don't say you like a verse that says, ooh, after he hits the brakes.
Yeah, but you can't look me in my eyes after he said with all those curves, ooh.
Don't say ooh and say you like this verse.
It's funny hearing how niggas used to rap and how they rap now.
He smokes a single.
I'm really into joking.
But this is just, this felt like around, I think I still had PTSD from Swagger like Us.
So you was kind of off the whole posse.
Yeah, like, I was still like,
all they're going to do is get together
and not do anything good.
Because they're all going to be scared,
like, as competition, I don't really know,
like what I should do here.
Ross was on that too, right?
Yeah.
Play a little bit of Ross, right?
Like, hearing these records now,
I'll be forgetting how it start,
but as soon as I hear it.
I just want to get to Yale.
You know what, yo,
you a bitch.
You should have a travel agent
because you a trip.
You should make your own
He's so angry since you to shit.
But all you got is some fucking issues, you fucking bitch.
He felt that.
He felt that one.
Yeah, but it's like, why you're so-
Is that keeping it pee?
Is he keeping it pee?
No.
That was not keeping it P at all.
That was keeping it D.
No, man, he's expressing how he feels.
Yeah, but you, come on, fam.
That shit wasn't even a hard bar, though.
No, no, it didn't wrong.
He was just mad.
Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
It's like, that shit wasn't even hard.
That shit was just like,
we know who he's talking about.
Because that's when those verses was the thing,
like who are you talking about oh yeah no this was but this was at the that was yeah like oh who
he talking about that was like when fucking uh what's on my beautiful dark twist fantasy with john legend
blame game blame game oh my blame game came out it was like who tearing this poor girl apart
like we can see her this ain't a stranger was a chris rock on on the uh yeah that was where
my instagram name my alias came from marist autumn came from what did you teach him
What you told him, Marys?
Man, go on head.
I want to know your class.
Who was your master class?
What De Maris was up there teaching?
I want to know.
That's crazy. That's very funny.
Kanye really came on and said Jay finally got it through my head not around my mouth
and then that nigga spent the rest of his camera running his mouth.
He didn't listen to Jay.
Me at all.
He ain't get it through his head at all.
Not once.
Now he actually continued to talk about Jay.
He went to talk about Jay instead.
I love you
And I'm talking shit
That Deuces remix was cool
But I will say
That just shows how crazy
The real Deuces was
Because the original is far better
Than a remix with every legend
From that era
When's the last good posse cut
Where everybody actually had good verses
Who was it?
Touch it?
Touch it?
No
The last one, no
Well, let's define posse cut
It has to be at least more than four, right?
And are we making a record
Or are we rapping?
You said making a record.
Like, there's records now with four artists on it.
Like, is all of the lights a posse cut?
Because there's like seven legends on it, but it's not a posse cut.
I'm saying like where people were rapping, let's put a hook or a sample in there.
You have to have a verse.
Fuller.
Monster?
Oh, yeah.
Is that a posse?
That's a song.
It's not a posse cut.
All right, so now confused.
That's not a posse cut.
So what we're talking about?
So what, all right, so.
Band from TV was a posse cut.
It was a four bar loop and they just kept rapping.
That's a posse cut.
POSCut. Reservoir Dog is a posse cut.
I think A-Train is a posse cut.
So do you think Deuce's remix is a posse cut?
In a, when rap went very emotional, yes, that would be considered a posse cut.
Yeah, that was a posse cut.
That's a sick posse cut.
Yeah.
But then again, say again.
Fucking problems, I guess, would be a posse cut.
That's a posse cut.
If fucking problems is a posse cut.
I'm being too much of a purist on that.
Yeah.
Fucking problems, I guess, is a posse cut.
Cut. Because we were saying who got who on it
and it was like a club record.
I feel like we just got one not too long ago.
A posse cut.
We're stupid and don't remember things.
No, music comes out every fucking day now.
It's hard to fucking remember.
Who would put out an album?
I mean, Russ's entire album is a posse cut.
Yeah.
No, we just got one though.
Monster is definitely a posse cut.
If fucking problems is a posse cut, then Monster is a posse cut.
How?
Rick Ross has two bars in the beginning.
And then you get a J, Nikki, and Kanyez.
Three artists.
Ross.
No.
He's like growls and then it gets in a hyares.
We just got a posse.
Not too long ago, but I can't remember.
But Deuce's remix is one of the most legendary posse cuts, though.
The most emotional posse cut.
It's got to be over for sure.
It's got to be over for, though.
Well, I don't know.
Would the One Blood Remix be the longest posse cut?
cut of all time.
That's more than the posse.
Only game would be the one to pull that off.
How long is that, how long is that record?
An hour and a half?
That record has to be two days long, at least.
For sure.
You can go to sleep and wake up and niggas.
You go to sleep, wake up, niggas is still rapping.
You're like, all right, fam, I'm cool.
Listen, if Sirius give us a real radio show to fill up the first week, I'm just playing
One Blood Remix.
I'm going to leave the studio.
That's all you need.
Just play one blood, leave, go on vacation, come back.
It'll be two minutes left in the record, for sure.
You could probably still discover new rappers from that.
that today.
Off the War Bloods.
Game was calling
everybody for a verse.
Listen.
That shit.
And he did that on purpose.
Unfortunately,
we had to hear a millie
from every rapper
that we didn't want to hear from.
Would a milly be considered
a posse good?
No, it was just Wayne.
And then everyone decided
to take the beat and rap over it.
Wayne didn't ask nobody to do that shit.
No,
remix.
Corey Guns was on that, right?
No, he was on 6'1.
Oh, six for seven.
Oh, God.
Y'all are bringing me back.
to when he was teaching him.
Corey got off on that.
Corey did.
He got off on that.
I think six foot is better
than a milly,
but that's just me.
It is.
I do too, yeah.
Okay, that's not a hot take?
No, I don't know
that ain't a hot too, sorry.
Fuck no.
I apologize.
That's definitely not a hot take.
No, Corey definitely went off on that.
But yeah, all right.
So we figured out what P is.
I'm still sticking with Deuce's remix
being very underwhelming.
When do y'all go back to Deuce's remix?
I'll play it regularly.
I haven't heard that record in the long time.
You're talking about it definitely brought up like a lot of old.
Like I remember where I was at when that shit came out, what was going on, what everybody was wearing, what the fashion looked like.
And that's when G-shocks was going crazy.
What?
That was G-shock error.
Every color.
And the fake ones look real.
And they were so cheap you didn't have a fake one.
Nah, they had the fake G-shock.
No, I know they had them.
But I was in high school.
But wearing the fake G-shock is crazy.
Yeah, but all right.
How old were you when G-shocks came up?
Not when they came out, but when they were like repopping again.
About 2010?
10?
I was 28, 29.
Yeah.
Some of us were 18 and, you know, maybe didn't have much money.
So we bought fake G-shocks from the mall or from Canal Street.
That's just crazy, though.
We're in a fake shot.
Because how much was G-shots?
80 bucks at most?
Yeah, like, so we're in a fake one.
Like, come on, fam.
You know why I don't understand people wearing fake shit?
They looked, they were the only watch that was fake that looked identical because
G-shots are plastic and rubber.
That's why it's why it wasn't really fake one?
Was it really fake?
Yeah, like, exactly.
I'm about to say, how do you even know?
Exactly.
I don't understand why people wear fake shit because it's like, just don't wear it.
Just don't buy it.
Yeah, like, what's the fuck is it?
I'm with that too.
What is the point of, that's a mental, that's a mental disease.
When fake shit is a mental disease.
It's a, it's a, it's a mannington.
It's bro.
Shit. Just don't wear it.
Why are you wearing that shit?
Well, jewelry, I don't understand it.
But I do get it.
The rich people that wear fake jewelry.
I get it.
I don't...
Here's why I get it.
I know what you mean, but that's still stupid.
I know what you mean.
I wouldn't do it, but I get it.
You get it because they have the money obviously to buy it.
On top of that, you're a target.
Someone's going for it.
If you lose that on a night out, whole fucking well...
Just don't wear it.
Well, some of us are not tough and we want to wear jewelry more.
I remember my home boy...
My homeboy was in town visiting and won't say his name, but he had on like a really, really expensive watch.
Watch was probably about $70,000.
And...
But it was no diamonds.
It was just like, you know, one of those type of watches.
it was just a plain autumn automa.
He wants...
Did a girl fuck him for the AP?
Is that what happened?
Probably.
Okay.
He wants me to walk with him through Harlem, through the projects.
He's like, yo, come on, let's walk over there.
Let's go see.
I'm like, fam, all right, we're going to get in the car.
Like, I'm not walking with you through no projects.
He's like, well, I'm like, bro, you got a $70,000 watch on.
I'm not scared.
I'm smart.
Yeah, I'm like, yo, what are you?
He's like, yo, but it's no dime.
There's nobody going to know.
I'm like, bro, you got the streets twisted.
Word.
And he didn't understand.
Like, I'm like, bro, you have a $70,000 watch on.
Like, but my thing is...
So you lined him.
No, hell.
I would never do shit like that.
But my thing was, if somebody, if somebody, like you said,
you're wearing a fake one because if you get robbed,
but it's like, why even wear it?
Well, then that's the embarrassing part
when the person that robs you knows how to use the internet.
And now you have to deal with,
I really robbed this guy for some fake shit.
Yeah, but because you know the person that has some money,
it doesn't matter.
But my thing is, you,
just don't wear anything at all.
Like, that's why I never understood people wearing fake watches and jewelry or fake clothes.
Because it's like, bro, you can wear a lot of other regular shit and still look good.
But I think just with their success rate of wearing fake shit and the things and attention that came to them,
makes them think I should just do this moving forward until the time comes at the robbed and everyone finds out his fake.
Like even, like, my favorite Ross Bar is on that shit when he said to Burbank, I found out your watch was fake.
And then he doesn't even grunt.
He sighed.
Like, he sighs.
Like, I felt Rose.
And at that time, Birdman was a billionaire.
Yeah, but it's still like, it goes back to what I'm saying.
Why even have anything fake when you got that type of money?
Just don't have it at all.
I guess.
You know what I mean?
Like, it's like, you people know you got money.
You don't need to wear a fake watch because you might get robbed.
So let them rob me for some fake shit.
Like, just don't wear nothing.
I drive a Mazda still.
Right.
And it's going to remain that way.
Oh, the Mozzie, the Mozzie, spend the block.
Split the block
Just as long as a frog
Because I still go to Harlem
Yeah
Ain't nobody
gonna rob you out
You safe and Harlem
I'm aware I'm safe
Harlem is very
Harlem is a very
Well now hold on
It's still certain blocks
That yeah
How
Nogos be doing that shit
Nigger with the
You know with the
Pistol out
That little dance right there
When you see them
Niggas doing that
That's the demon babies
The niggas
That be doing all that shit
Yes
Yeah
Them niggas
That's how you know
They give you an issue
Dancing with the Glock out is just hilarious, though.
Like, think about that.
Like, where are we at in our culture
where niggas is dancing with the pistols out?
I used to be terrified of blocks
when I'd see grown men
on, like, small BMX bikes and shit.
That was just always a sign to me,
like, oh, I'm in a neighborhood.
I probably, this isn't the one
when grown men was on those type of bikes.
Yeah.
Now it's just, it's right in the air.
Like, oh, that's a gun and he's dancing.
I know that dance.
I know that dance.
I know that dance.
That dance was like,
you know you got it on them.
That dance was just in a RICO trial.
Yeah.
With the little body.
strap joints?
They use the body,
the cross,
what are they called
cross body bags?
Mm-hmm.
You know what
I really got terrified?
Not when I was
around Junet and they
was wearing real
bulletproof vests.
I'm terrified now
because these young kids
wear fake bulletproof vests
is a fashion statement.
That's why I'm terrified.
Y'all really don't care
about your lives.
Because you could really
put the Kevlar on
and still have the same
fashion statement.
Yeah.
You're wearing fake bulletproof
vest while dancing
with a pistol.
Well, you can't,
well, as crazy
as the sound,
you can't have a real
bulletproof vest.
Where it's a legal.
You can't have an illegal pistol while you dance on a 16th Street.
Exactly.
It's just crazy, man.
I don't know, man.
Can someone explain the fake bulletproof vest trend to me?
Somebody.
I know it looks good on the dirt bike.
Yeah.
But if you fall on the dirt bike, that's not going to hate it at all.
Not going to help you at all.
No.
It's just for the look.
I don't get it.
I don't understand it.
I don't understand why the young dudes wear that shit.
It's for the look.
I walked into the Donda show.
Everybody had a Don of Bestborn.
I thought it was a fucking bomb scare.
Yeah, no.
I turn around.
Is this what SWAT is here?
No, just for the look.
Security.
That's yay security.
They had you buttoned up in one more.
You don't do that.
You had a donda vest?
I did not have a donda vest on.
Okay.
I'm letting you know that for pick surfaces of you
and a donda blueproof vest.
You're not going to hit the end of it.
I can assure you.
I did not have a time.
All right.
All right, cool.
That's all I'm asking.
I'm just asking now before I can assure you.
Okay.
All right.
I believe you.
I was the only one unprotected by the Lord.
By the Lord.
I did not have God's Kevlar surrounding me.
Yeah.
But I felt like if everyone else had them on and I was in the circle,
they would block all the devil.
Okay.
Well, they couldn't block consequences, but other than that.
Yo.
Yo.
They, how come no one with a bulletproof that stopped consequences?
Yeah, you go.
Here you go. You're going to find a way.
This was stupid, but I laughed.
Who are you taking?
Jaheim versus Usher.
You know, I saw that and I started to text you because I didn't know if that was real or not.
But we got to pray for Jaheim.
He needs a donda.
He needs a donda because what, who told him that that was a good idea to put that out in the universe?
Like who was with him and said, nah, I'm telling you, this is, they want this.
Him.
They want this with the streets on.
And he said only the fans can get it done.
It's on us now.
Jaheem put it on us.
Listen, man.
He said, he's right.
He said, and he put a time on it.
One month.
That's all Usher gets.
My favorite part of that entire caption was, yo, it's nothing personal.
No.
This is 1,000% personal.
Because you're the only one that wants to see the matter.
He said Usher, nothing personal.
Listen, Jahim has some records that we love.
Love Jahim.
You know, he's had some moments on the internet
where we laughed at him.
He had some questionable, fashionable,
moments, and...
He brought some light to a very dark time
of Whitney's funeral.
We were all feeling it, and he...
Posed a picture, and we got a good joke out of that.
Yeah.
He laughed at you, too.
Yeah, it's like, you know, we love Jaheem
because it's like, we love you.
You know what I mean?
You're from our culture.
you've had some some really dope records um but a versus against usher jaheim i mean the person that
gets ready for their friend's funeral and looks through the closet and goes purple probably not the
brightest person no but it's it's really a it's really a call for attention that's what it really is
like you want attention you want uh you know you want the eyes to be on you want the focus on you it's
really a call for attention.
That's all it is.
But Jahe, you have to understand that you will never be in a versus ring with Usher.
It's never going to happen.
I mean, he could do it.
Like, he could play Usher's side.
He could set up like two laptops.
No, he could do it on this.
He could do whatever he wants from his home, for sure.
He will never be on the same stage with Usher.
No, that's not going to happen.
And, you know, again, I like Jaheem.
You got records that we listen to still.
For sure.
classic R&B records, but
come on, man. Usher.
Who do you put against Usher then?
I think it would only be one person
you could put against Usher and that may be
Chris Brown.
Okay. That would be the only person
that would be a worthy opponent.
Please ignore my white face when I say this.
Justin?
I think Usher's...
I love to do that.
I think Justin is a better opponent
for Usher than Chris Brown is.
Does...
Wait.
Usher.
Justin is a better opponent than Chris Brown?
Fuck no.
Hell no.
I think you sleep on Justin a little bit.
I'm not sleeping on Justin at all, but I think Usher cleans Justin up.
Usher cleans Chris up.
Usher wins.
But I'm saying a better opponent?
Justin Timber.
No.
Okay, wait.
Is Justin Timberlake playing in sync records?
Of course.
Justin Timberlake is playing all records.
Yeah.
I still think Usher gets him out of it.
Yeah, he doesn't.
I think I should be Chris and Justin, but I-
Chris Brown got a lot of fucking records though.
He does, but he's got a lot of, in the moment, records.
Like, they was the biggest single that year,
and then we stopped listening to them.
He has a lot of timeless.
He has a lot of timeless ones too.
We don't get a twisted.
But Usher has shit.
Like, you could play Let It Burn right now,
and that's, like, that's a point,
and that wouldn't even be that high on Usher's 20.
Usher could play every single song on Confessions.
The only worthy opponent to me,
I mean, Justin Timbley is Justin Timblet.
He's a fucking legend.
But I think Usher Chris Brin, for the culture, Usherer Chris Brown.
Now, what would be interesting with that and how they could add another element.
And I know we always talk about verses.
Add performance to it.
No, no, no, no.
I'm not talking about singing it.
Like, dog, get your dancers, get your pyro, get your lights.
You don't want to see.
Usher is cleaning Chris Brown to fuck up.
Yo, y'all are tripping saying that.
I was not saying that.
I think that might have been what would help Chris.
Chris gets busy.
Of course Usher doesn't.
Chris can dance.
He can dance his ass off, but Usher has that Michael kind of factor that control the whole entire stage.
Chris Brown can still do backflips right now, today.
Okay, he can dance, but dancing and performing is a completely different thing.
Y'all, Shcher captures the audience, the way everything he does is so smooth.
Chris going to go on there, crump, backflip, backflip, okay, but it's not, it's a different kind of experience.
Y'all got Chris fucked up, man.
I think y'all got, I think y'all got Breezy fucked up.
You got Chris fucked up.
Chris Brown?
Nah, man.
Chris Brown is a fucking entertainer,
performer, whatever you want to call it.
Chris Brown is one of them, for sure.
Yeah.
And I love Usher.
I love Usher.
But Chris Brown is a better dancing than Usher.
You know what I mean?
Well, you could define better dancer.
He dances better.
Yeah.
I don't know how you want to break that down.
His one, two step, he lands on the balls of his feet better.
I don't know what the fuck you want to tell you.
But he has to think that Chris Brown is a better dance.
Usher's a phenomenal entertaining
dance as well.
That's why I think those two would be...
I think Usher's a better performer.
We got a dancer.
You think Usher's a better entertainer?
Well, Usher's now
I've seen at his Vegas residency.
He's on stage performing and roller skating.
That's some super fly shit.
That's some superfly shit.
To not fall, like to, you know what I mean?
To be on...
And it's so smooth.
Yeah, like he...
I just seen Rocky Thunder and Tao
at the Halloween party on skates.
And she didn't fall once.
shrinking her hand. But that was, yeah, but she was she doing it? She was a whole crowd too.
She had to skate through. But was she doing the moves? To walk through towel. Imagine being on roller skates.
How did she how did Rocky get down the steps? I have no idea. Wow. That's impressive.
This was a long, it was like years ago in Halloween. And I was like, Rocky, have you like, do you have shoes?
She's like, nah, I'm on skates. Nah, you got to, that when you got them on. You skated down eighth.
Skating down eight is hilarious. Yeah, no, but I, uh, uh, uh, is, again, he's a legend, man, obviously, but.
I think Chris Brown is a better is a better dancer though.
Like, I think Chris is just, he just won.
I mean, they won in the same.
I don't know.
This is such a mid-2000s podcast.
We started with debating Carter 3 classics.
Well, we're going from the 80s and we went through it.
Then we kept it pee.
I can't say the new.
Stop saying that.
I'm so bad at the new slang.
Yeah, stop saying that.
Don't say that again.
What's so crazy is some of the people that make the slang are older than me.
Is that old to you?
No, but they just don't.
But their target audiences are older than you.
Yeah, they appear like they're younger than me.
I'm getting old, man.
You know, how hard is for me to say gap again.
I'm old, man.
I'm getting old, man.
Cap is tough for me to say.
Cap, no cap?
Yeah, like, I say it jokingly.
I mocked it's lit so much, then now I say it's lit.
And I mean it.
We should, we should bring like the old slain.
It's a movie.
It's a movie.
It's a, a Zuvie?
No, the Zuvie was the-
Don't ever say that in my presence of now.
When niggas were saying Zubi.
Zoooo-Zoo-Zoo-Zoo.
Yo, that was the nastiest era ever
The zoo and the movie
Nah, get the fuck out of here with that shit, man
This might have been
Facebook era going into Instagram
When they, when movie and Zuvie wouldn't do it
Then they added hashtag unwalkable
And I'm like, why would I want to go there?
See, see, see, see, so I'm saying
I don't know what I fuck
See when you let niggas do something
They just go too far
Unwarkable
Why would I want to be, I want to walk
Yeah, I don't want to be anywhere
I can't move
I'm not, I'm not going there
Zuvie.
I want to know who the first
He was in a Zuvie though
He was in a couple Zubi's
Was I in a couple Zuvies?
He was in a lot of Zubis.
I don't think I've ever been in a Zubi.
You was in a Zubi.
Because see, that's what I'm saying.
Like, it's certain parties you go to you.
Like, this party was incredible.
He was in Canal Room when it was a Zuvie.
Canal Room was some good time.
It was a Zuvie in Canal Room.
I'm not saying that.
You're trying to give me to say Zuvie, and I'm not going to do it.
Yeah, I just don't understand.
Like, I don't know.
I want to know who was the first person to say Zuvie.
Those are the people we need to sit an interview.
A promoter.
A pro.
promoter that gets girls drunk so he has an opportunity to try to sleep with them while they're intoxicated.
That's who makes up those terms.
Zuvie?
Yeah.
100%.
We got to get into promoters one day.
Promoters?
We may need to do away with promoters.
Are they still promoters?
Of course.
Really?
They're working harder than they ever have before.
No one wants to go outside.
They got to really promote now.
They can't just call the bad bitch at the time and be like, she's bartending.
They have to promote.
Who's some of the promoters in New York right now?
I don't fuck with him.
No, but I'm...
Oh, damn.
Okay, my bad.
I don't even know what the bills are.
That's what I'm saying.
I don't even know who the promoters in the city are anymore.
Nothing is going on in New York right now.
Do we even have a New York spot?
This is a very New York podcast.
Yeah.
Harbors is where everyone goes now.
Harbors the club spot.
And there's no promoter there.
No, you just, I mean, if you...
And you never need to know the promoter.
If you hang out in bad neighborhoods,
you just know security and security will let you in.
Yeah.
If you got to go to the promoter, you kind of a lame, actually.
I don't know.
Security is how you really.
I don't even know if clubs still need...
I think you still need promoters at certain venues
because certain venues still like to keep it
like a kind of certain crowd.
Oh, for sure.
A certain mix of people.
But I don't know if promoters are really...
That's a door person though.
Sometimes the promoter will be the door person,
but that's really what, like,
per goal is a spot that's lasted this long.
They don't need a promoter anymore.
It's going to be packed with reservations
every single day.
They need someone at the door to be like, nah.
and you may know that person
that doesn't really make them a promoter
I'm sure Harbor has promoters though
now you got the red December's on
we ain't let you with
that's a Carl thing man
I'm going in with crox
so
shout out to Slay
I finally got my crocs
oh yeah I busted
I bought mine today
you didn't see you guys
no no
nah
you sure they might be in my old address
I was gonna say the old address
I was about to say yeah
he definitely sent them
for sure
because I bust one of the boxes
open last week
and I was like
Oh, shit.
I'm going to my old address after this.
There was a Saleh.
Salahy sent me to the Crocs.
So shout out to Salah.
He made them shit as fire.
They're comfortable?
I legitimately bought them this morning.
Yeah.
He definitely sent them to you.
All right.
Well, now I have two pairs.
Yeah, he definitely sent me the brown ones because I bought the brown one.
He sent me the white ones.
Okay.
Those are incredible.
Yeah, no, those are super comfortable.
I want to see you in Crocs.
That's going to be funny.
Airport flow.
No, no good airport.
You don't go to the pod?
No way.
What?
Never.
Never.
Because those ain't for
It ain't for just moving around the city
Like I can't do that
If I'm getting a car
Going to the airport
And traveling
But you're gonna be so dirty
But you're I mean
Your feet don't touch the ground
You go from Uber
To studio to crib
Like yeah
You don't move around the city
Yeah no
You would never
I still don't want to have
I still don't want to have no crocs
On in the city
Nah
I just can't man
I'm from in January
Yeah I'm not
With snowing ground
Nah
I'm not doing it
But airport
I can't wait to
Take another trip
And throw those on
For sure
Just just to take a trip
Just the airport.
Yeah, just the airport.
I just want to be, I like, because you never know how much walking you doing it
until you get to the airport.
I always get the gate.
And you're like, oh, my God.
And flying out of New York sometimes LaGuardia, you never know which tournament
would ain't going to have you going out of.
And that shit is all over the place.
But yeah, shout out to Salehi.
It was something else.
Speaking of Salae, which I guess kind of connects in an internal way.
J. Electronica told me that if you do not come to the show tonight,
you are an open enemy to the NOI and you are a dean.
and you are deemed a white man.
That's an exact quote from Jay Electricity.
I guess I got to go to the show.
Like, I don't want to be a white man.
I guess I got to go see him perform tonight.
I didn't even know he was performing until you told me that.
He had had a show when that hurricane hit New Orleans last was that October,
November of last year.
And he canceled it because he went down to help with his family and everything.
So they pushed it to now.
Shout out to Jay Legg.
Yeah, now I'm going to go check him out.
I've never, I've never seen Jay Electron to perform live, actually.
Not a thing about it.
I think maybe at SOBs like years and years and years ago.
I've never seen them live.
Let's make this more New York.
Is this open?
I would think so.
Is it still closed?
I think it is.
No, I think it's open.
Performances?
I think I've seen somebody on my timeline.
Huh?
We might have to do a pop-up show just for the love, for the culture.
I think that would be so dope.
At ESB.
I know everyone kind of grows up, if you will, and thinks they're above SOBs because
they did it when they were younger.
Like, SOBs is a fucking staple to New York City.
I kind of hate when people do that like lowbrow shit, like, oh, you're doing your shit
at SOBs or like, like, fan, you was there all the time.
This is how you started too.
Yeah.
No, that's dope.
You can never, if you're from New York, you definitely should always perform in SOBs at some
point.
Yeah.
I don't care how big of an artist you are.
only those spots that you continue to go to and just show love to for sure.
Yeah, I hope it's open.
But where's Jayla?
It is.
Yeah, I think it's, Jaylek is that where?
Sony Hall.
Sony Hall.
Yeah, no, I'm going to definitely go through to that.
Shout out to Jaylek, by the way.
I just, I was listening to the album with him and Hove.
I hate saying that because it's J.L.X's album, but it's him and Ove.
It's a joint album.
Yeah, and I like, as time goes on, I appreciate that album more.
I know we kind of, the sound.
I know y'all did.
The mixing and all of that.
It was real raw, real, like, grimy sounding, but the lyrics is just, and everything that Jay Alec and Jay was rapping about then is so relevant now.
For sure.
You know what I mean?
I was listening to that over the weekend, too.
I do that a lot, man.
I'll go back and listen to a lot of old shit whenever new shit drops just to kind of like see where the gap is at.
And get out of the moment of when it came out to see if, yo, do I really like this type of shit?
Does it stand up?
Should we get into disappointing news?
I was at dinner and got that sad news about Bob Sagitt.
Oh, yeah.
That was definitely some sad news to receive.
Yeah.
Legendary comic, comedic actor, Bob Sagitt from one of my favorite shows growing up,
Full House.
Staple of our childhood.
Danny Tanner.
Passed away in Orlando at his hotel.
Whenever that happens, they have to investigate and they have to do an autopsy and things like that
to figure out what happened.
But prayers and condolences to his family.
to his fans, his friends, on his passing.
I know he was just on tour.
His tour just started.
Yeah.
So that's, you know, his fans, I know, was devastated to receive that news.
Caption was devastating, too, to even read of how excited he was.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's back.
Like, I love this shit again.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It was definitely like some really shocking, shocking news to receive.
So prayers condolences to Bob Sagitt, his family.
And, yeah, man, just sad, sad, sad news.
receive. And you got to look at how good of an actor he is. To know who he really is, and then to the
role he played on Full House. I was convinced he was playing an act. Once I found out, he wasn't
the dad from Full House. I was like, oh, is he playing like some psychotic cursing drug addict?
Yeah, yeah. And it was like, oh, wait, that's who he was. Right. He has a stand-up on, I think it's
It may be on Netflix.
He had a stand-up I saw a few years ago.
And now that's when I started to realize like, oh, Bob Sagitt is like funny for real.
Oh, for sure.
Yeah.
I mean, he, outside his small cameo and have baked, he went on, he was like a reoccurring
character on Entourage and was fucking hysterical on Entourage.
He was the best cameo reoccurring guests I thought they had.
Every single time he was hilarious on that shit.
Yeah, man, that was definitely some shocking news.
So again, prayers condolences to Bob Saggart, his family.
And, yeah, man.
Love your loved ones why they're here.
For sure.
Also, prayers to everyone affected by the fire in the Bronx.
Yeah, absolutely.
19 dead, nine children dead.
32 and critical.
Yeah, that was 65 injured.
Yeah, and that's my hood, man.
That's five minutes from where I grew up at.
So that was definitely some sad news.
Again, man, these space heaters and people trying to be warm in the winter
is causing, you know, this is not.
I think we hear about this every winter.
It's like space heater or electrical fires in these homes and these apartments.
But this is definitely, I think, the most deadly fire that the Bronx has seen since the
Happy Land in the 80s.
Sad, you're talking about nine kids, just to start the new year off.
That was some sad news.
And they have Mayor Eric Adams put up a website if people want to do it.
They're asking for monetary donations only.
So there was another one where you could donate water, supplies, and everything with an address, I believe.
We'll put everything in the description.
Yeah, definitely.
So if you can, anything, man, just anything helps.
Yeah, and I'm not going to sit here and never pretend like I understand the city's budget, but I do understand human.
And there needs to be some way where space heaters are not necessary in people's apartments.
just how I feel.
Yeah.
Because I've had space heaters in my career
where I would be scared to fall asleep
without turning that shit off.
Because you can see the fucking like flame in it.
And it's plastic.
It's the worst invention and most dangerous thing
you could literally have in your room.
And everyone in every fucking apartment has one.
Yeah.
So.
Please be careful, man.
That's definitely like, you know.
Or buildings need to find some way
where they're not necessary.
Like you will be fine with heat.
Yeah.
without having to purchase a space eater that more times than none is dangerous as fuck.
Yeah.
So it's sad, man.
Some more sad news, not to be super sad, but this one really bothered me.
A teen working in Burger King in Harlem, 19-year-old teen, Crystal Barron Nieves was shot and killed Sunday morning in East Harlem Burger King.
A guy came in and robbed the Burger King and ended up shooting and killing her.
Jesus.
Yeah, now that was just super sad because the mother was saying how the daughter, she
didn't feel safe working the overnight shift and that she didn't want to go and the mom woke
her up at 10 o'clock at night and it was like, you know, you had to be responsible.
Oh, shit.
Got to keep a job.
You got to make money and basically forced her daughter to go to work.
And, you know, unfortunately her daughter ended up being killed that night.
I hope the mother doesn't carry that.
She was really...
It's tough, man, because, you know, you understand the mom.
She wants her daughter.
She wanted her daughter to be, you know, responsible and work hard and, you know, and have her own means of income and things like that.
But, you know, away from that, because we understand that part.
We understand parents wanting us to, you know, make our own way and have our own, you know, stream of income.
But we got to do something with this culture, man, with, you know, men robbing and shooting women.
like that i i just don't understand how somebody you know shoots a woman a 19 old woman
working a shift at a fast food restaurant
it was not a threat to your robbery yeah like i don't i just don't i don't get it man
and you know it seems like there's not the consequences are not harsh enough
you know with these gun laws and you know robbing and killing and you know sometimes
Sometimes jail sentence is not enough.
Sometimes, you know, like these dudes don't even have the time, they're not even caught.
You know what I mean?
It's just something has to change, man, because that story, I don't notice this young lady, you know, being from the city, I just, you know, I'm in East Harlem.
I'm in Harlem all the time.
So you just feel like a sense of that community.
Like, I'm always in these areas.
And that shit really bothered me reading that story.
Like 19 years old, working in Burger King, just trying to make some money.
somebody comes in overnight,
robs you give him the money,
she gave up the money,
and he still shot and killed him.
Yeah.
You know what I mean?
I just don't,
I don't understand, man.
And something has to change.
I don't know what it is.
I don't have the answers,
but something has to change in this culture.
And we got to start.
What was a dollar amount?
I believe it was $100.
Yeah.
I was going to say,
they don't keep too much money in the register.
And especially overnight.
You know,
they,
the manager empties the registers for,
the money they made during the day
before the overnight shift anyway.
So yeah, just that shit really hurt me.
Prayers to De Nyeves' family.
Prayers to Crystal.
But yeah, man, I hope they find
the guy that did that.
He needs to be somebody that's locked away out of society, for sure.
I'm sure someone knows him.
Oh, for sure.
They had the video up and, you know, everything like that.
But it's just, it's sad, man.
19 years old, you're shooting killers girl for what?
I just don't understand it, man.
Like shit like that, I just,
I just don't, you know, I understand mental health and all these things.
People like to throw on these, you know, perpetrators and shit like that.
But mental health is not enough for me.
I'm sorry.
Like, killing, shoot me, killing a 19-year-old girl.
Definitely understand that.
I can't just, you can't just tell me mental health.
He's not, he's mentally ill.
And I don't want to hear that shit.
Like, that's just somebody that doesn't need to be a part of society.
I'm sorry.
Actually, I'm not sorry.
He doesn't need to be a part of society.
But prayers are family.
I hope that they catch him.
And, again, prayers and condoluses to the Nievehers to the Nieveh's family in that community.
For sure.
Was there anything we missed?
Because I know not much
did happen
while we were gone.
Have you heard that
Hours and Hours song by Money Long?
Yeah, of course.
About who?
Hours and hours.
Yeah, she's dope.
She's a very talented writer.
Yeah, I did a deep guy in her.
And I was like, she wrote
literally my two favorite Rihanna songs
in the whole world.
She wrote them both.
Yeah.
What's her name?
Money Long.
She used to be known as Priscilla Renee.
Yeah, she's super talented.
I'm glad she's getting her.
name is money long now yeah but it's spelled m u i m u n i long yeah it's spelled differently um
i that's a little artistic way of no but she's she's like a lot of those writers that get their
shot and she's taking full advantage of it right now though she's killing every tic-tok you could
fucking think of and the music is really good too um the project is uh why am i blank it is called
public displays of affection there you go yeah pda check that out um um
It's really good.
The hours and hours joint.
I'm sure you've heard it and didn't even realize you heard it because it's fucking everywhere.
There's no way you didn't hear.
But she's super talented.
And I just like to see writers like finally get their time to come out.
Right.
The way Esther Dean did.
Victoria.
Victoria.
What Kirby, I think, is now getting her shot too.
Like, I just like to see that type of shit.
Yeah.
Because those are the real talented people.
Like sometimes you've got to not write for other people.
That chapter's over.
Yeah.
I agree.
So.
Shout out to Kyrie.
Kari is back.
Yes.
He played his first away game.
Didn't sneeze or cough.
He looked good.
Sanantized.
He didn't miss a beat.
So shout out to Kyrie.
Welcome back.
Welcome back Clay Thompson.
Yes.
He came back last night.
He looked good in his return.
So yeah, man, the NBA is starting to feel like it's, you can tell when the guys are back.
Do you think the Warriors get another shot at, I'm talking Dynasty time again, not just winning again.
there's a world where they can win again, but back to where they were.
Yo, listen, man, we got to reshuffle that top five ever soon.
If Clay gets another ring, I mean, not clear.
If Steph gets another ring, we got to shuffle that top five around, man.
It's going to be hard to keep three or four.
Three.
Three.
Yeah.
Yeah.
If he gets another ring, man, it's going to be hard to keep Steph Curry out of your top five ever.
I think you kind of make a case.
now, but...
I wasn't going to say that, but...
I know.
I'm not the sports guys.
Yeah, no, I get it.
I get it.
No, I get it.
No, I get, no, but...
Just based off stats, I don't know why you couldn't make a case now.
Steph Curry, get another ring.
Yeah.
How old is Steph?
32?
Yeah.
Something like that.
Oh, he's got time.
Yeah.
He's got time.
I think they get one this year.
I think it's very doable.
I think they get one this year.
I think it's between, uh, it's going to be hard, you know, the Kyrie thing is still, you know, a
little tricky as far just away games only. But Katie, Steph, and I think Chris Paul, I think
the Sons, I think the Sons, the Warriors and the Nets are the three favorites to win the title this
year. And if Steph Curry gets another ring, man, like, yeah, it's going to be hard to keep
him out of your top five. It's going to be extremely hard. You got to reshuffle that top five
deck. Emily and Paris, we got two more seasons, Rory. Oh, my God. So you have to watch because
You didn't finish season one.
I didn't finish episode two.
This is what I'm saying.
You got to get on board with this thing.
It's taking off, Rory.
Euphoria is out.
I don't need to watch Emily.
I'm going to get it to you for euphoria.
Me and DeMaris was talking about it.
I definitely got to get into euphoria.
But Emily and Paris is official season three and four.
They just confirmed will happen.
So I don't know, Rory, man.
I don't want to leave you at the station, but I will.
Listen, I'm going to have to do a Zoom podcast.
Are you going to move to Paris for both seasons?
I don't know, man.
I might.
Emily might be calling me.
They shoot that shit in Vancouver.
You know they shoot that shit somewhere else.
I'm so silly.
Yeah, man, shout out to Emily and Paris.
Season 3 and 4 has been confirmed.
Euphoria last night, season 2, episode 1.
Yeah, I got to watch that.
Did you see it?
Yeah, I did.
Wasn't it amazing?
It was incredible.
I have to deal with my mentions being flooded that I look like Fez again.
This is going to happen as it did for the entire season one and after.
It's okay.
But I had to catch up because how long ago was season one?
Like two years ago.
Yeah, it felt like it was a long time ago.
So I had to catch up on my little wicked.
media shit prior to because they didn't give me the solid what happened last time shit.
But stuff was starting to come back.
But I liked episode one and not spoiling like Spider-Man.
Thank you, Jesus.
It was cool to get into Fez's background in the beginning and then back to the story-line.
I'm gonna go see Spider-Man this week.
I'm gonna go see it.
I have to.
Go, Dee.
So you don't go along.
So you don't go along.
That's why you, my-s-you-that-you-you-go-to-you-you-go-to-you-you-go-
You guys should do a double date.
Like you guys should each bring somebody and then- That would be-hallel.
And then we could discuss it.
That would be hilarious.
That would be fucking.
comedy. Are you kidding me?
Me and Carl coming.
Now with six people.
And we don't forget about you. You're just not in the room.
I'm gonna go see it, man. I'm gonna go see Spider-Man
because I've definitely been wanting to see it.
I wanted to see it again and I will go with you just so that you're not alone.
What you thought about you for you?
I'm fucking, I love you for you.
I'm gonna start spoiling it soon.
First, episode one I'm not going to.
Yeah.
But people, by episode three, I'm gonna start actively talking about what's going on in the show.
Well, Zendaya had to release a statement because, you know, she's just,
straight off the helm of Spider-Man,
which is kind of more kid.
She has a lot of kid fans now.
She did before.
But her fans were growing with her.
Now she's reintroducing herself
to a younger audience and she had to say,
you know, this is for mature audiences.
I know it's filmed in a high school,
but this is not, this is...
Yeah.
We're adults and we're like,
oh, this is interesting.
Like, it's a lot.
There's so much nudity.
So much nudity.
Yeah, I'm going to watch it.
It's a lot of dicks.
A lot of dick.
Well, they had a lot of tits last season,
And so they kind of evened it out.
I was excited.
They started with tities and they even had pussy, I think, at the beginning.
With the stripper, I was like, oh, they're going for it this season.
And then it was like, dick, dick, dick, dick.
I was like, all right, man, never mind.
Let me find something else to watch.
Righteous Jimstone.
Did you ever watch that with Danny McBride?
Was that with the, he's an assistant principal?
No, no, no, that's the, uh.
He's always got those type of roles.
No, this is one where his family is like the televangelist.
And, uh...
No, I need to watch that.
No, you never...
I'd love him.
I'd love him.
Season one.
Season two just started...
He's found down.
It's my fucking favorite show.
Watch season one.
Season two just started.
Yeah, I'm glad it came back.
Yeah, I'm glad it came back because that's, to me, that show was underrated.
A lot of people weren't talking about righteous gemstones, and that show was really funny.
Season two just started, so I definitely got to watch that.
That and you first, and now I got some more TV to watch.
Yeah, I like TV is back.
I felt like for a while, it was a lot of just random Netflix movies or docs.
Trying to find shit.
I like that.
TV series that have already been established seasons are now coming back like that.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Because I got a bunch of shit to get you on.
Euphoria, though, they're body in that shit.
That cast is incredible.
Yeah.
I love Zendaya.
Love her.
And like, listen, I thought my high school was, wow.
They're fucking crazy.
My high school was nothing like that.
Yeah, I wasn't.
I went to my high school's majority of black.
I didn't deal with this shit.
They were dealing with that trip.
It's just a different time.
I don't mean wild.
I would just mean in like general.
Like, just general whiling.
You could have your different degree.
degrees of wilding, no matter what location of the world you're in, whatever you want to do.
They're just wilding.
Yeah.
They're fucking wilding.
I'm going to check it out.
I like, I like it, Zendaya.
But it makes me jealous.
I kind of always wanted to go to a really, really large high schools that, like, have the space to be large, not like New York City large high schools.
They tend to be like that, like wild and big wild parties.
And you got the rich kid with the millionaire parents who are never home.
They're throwing parties and shit.
Well, yeah, I'm looking forward to the rest of the season of Euphoria.
It was a good start.
So catch up.
Yeah, no, I'm definitely going to watch it.
I like that show.
You would enjoy it.
Is there anything else we didn't cover?
We're back in a few days.
Yeah, I'm going to go see the, before I go to the J-Lake show,
I'm going to go see the Knicks tonight, man.
Okay.
Spoke to Julius the other night, man.
They've got to get their shit together.
They've been struggling.
Can I get two tickets?
You want to go tonight?
Not tonight.
But next game, I would love to.
Carl, should right away.
Yo, I link.
Yeah, go back to Jersey and do some stuff before the show.
No, I'll definitely get some tickets for,
I'll look at the schedule and ask you always for some tickets.
But yeah, man, another week.
Yeah.
Another weekend in the can.
How's your new year's start to your new year?
Your resolutions are down the drain already?
Of course.
That's why you don't make any.
Yeah.
I didn't make any.
Just try to survive.
Just hopefully.
Make it to the next day.
Day to time.
I want to see another one.
I want to see another year.
Well, yeah, man, we'll be back in a few days.
I think we got, did we have something coming up?
Probably, but that's Tamara still tell us.
Okay.
Yeah.
We got something.
I won't tell you now, you'll forget, so I'll just tell you did it before.
For sure.
Yeah.
Well, we got some shit coming up.
I think there's some merch left.
There's a lot of merch left.
Not a lot, but there's some stuff left.
Yeah.
There's some merch.
Get some merch working on the Valentine's capsule now.
I'm excited to see you.
Yeah.
What nasty shit you tell the women on this merch?
Nah, man.
We're just trying to have some fun, man, with this merch thing.
So, yeah, Valentine's merch coming up.
Some merch available now.
And, yeah, anything else?
I think that's about it.
Cool.
So we'll see you on a couple of days.
We'll talk to you on a couple days.
Till then, be safe.
Be blessed.
Stay healthy, washing hands and wash your ass.
How much you wait, Wanda?
Right now, I'm about 130.
I'm at 183.
We should race.
No, I want to leave here with my original hips.
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