New Rory & MAL - Episode 310 | Cole Is Free

Episode Date: October 11, 2024

Happy Friday guys. Without much do, we get right into conversation that has taken over the culture - J. Cole's song 'Port Antonio' that addresses his feelings on the rap beef and his place in (and outside of) it. The conversation gets heated as the cast cant seem to reach an agreement on Cole's drop and the future of his career, as well as why he should or shouldn't ever speak about the beef again. Eventually we move on and discuss YSL Woody and Jussie Smollett both dying on the hill that houses their insane lies (1:01:48). Speaking of legendary liars, Jaguar Wright put Piers Morgan in a sticky situation with Beyoncé and Jay-Z's lawyers (1:07:25). We have voicemails! The first one is about a guy wanting advice on whether or not to lie on his resume (1:14:33), and the second wants advice on how to avoid being a fuckboy (1:23:09).For MORE Rory & Mal, make sure you subscribe to our Patreon community, for exclusive episodes, first access to tickets and merch sales, private live chats with the team, + more! https://www.patreon.com/newrorynmalFollow Rory: @ThisIsRoryFollow MAL: @MAL_ByTheWayFollow Demaris: @DemarisAGiscombeFollow Julian: @Julian__nicholas To watch the podcast on YouTube: https://bit.ly/NewRoryAndMALYouTube Don’t forget to follow the podcast for free wherever you're listening or by using this link: https://bit.ly/NewRoryAndMAL Thanks to our sponsors: Earn points by paying rent right now when you go to https://joinbilt.com/RORYMAL. Sign up for your one-dollar-per-month trial period at https://SHOPIFY.COM/rorymal Visit https://BetterHelp.com/rorymal today to get 10% off your first month. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoicesSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

This is an I-Heart podcast. Guaranteed Human. Toronto, October 17th, we will be live in your city. Bring the boy with us. It's good. I'm petrified right now. Like, I'm actually scared. Toronto, we will see you next week.

We cannot wait. I'm getting the fuck out of here. No, warrior my. I guess in that metaphor, hypothetically, the gun is me. I text her back like guess a gun ain't what I'm trying to be, my nigger. They strip me on my spot and now I'm finally free, my nigger. They say I'm picking size, hey, don't you lie on me, my nigga. To start another war, eh, Drake, you'll always be, my nigga.

I ain't ashamed to say you did a lot for me, my nigga. Fuck all the narratives. Tapping back into your magic pen is what's imperative. Reminding these folks why we do it, it's not for beefing, it's for speaking our thoughts, pushing ourselves, reaching the charts, reaching your minds, deep in your hearts, creeping up, I find, emotions to touch, something inside to open you up, help you cope with the rough times and shit. I'm sending love

Cause we ain't prime This shit My niggum All right All right All right We're gonna talk about How I smoked Demaris

and Taboo last night Or we could get right to the shits Should we ease into it? I know you're not supposed to curse In the beginning of this So just bleep that page I'm sorry We have to monetize it

I'd prefer to just get into it I don't really care about taboo To be honest I smoked Damaris's boots and taboo And it's not even close Like not even a little bit But it's cool I understand.

I think she had like negative one points by the end of the entire game. All right. See you dragging it. First of all, you had some really good people on your team. It wasn't like you was holding the fort down on your fucking own. You weren't even that good. I understood the role players.

I was the GM. So me or Rory found out, well, Rory found out something about me last night. I already knew this about him. We are very competitive people. And our competitiveness is not like cute or funny or like fun. It's like.

It ruins the box. Yeah, we ruined like the whole shit. We scared all the holes. But what was more important than my competitive game night behavior, I left taboo to walk outside so I could listen to the best rapper of 2024 rap for five minutes straight and smoke everyone on this fucking podcast, including myself. Well, not everyone. Not everyone. Where do we want to begin? Everyone's quiet now, right? Cole got y'all shook.

Now, who shook? You see you sure. Everyone seemed shook. He disused y'all. First of all, he ain't diss me. Let's be real. He ate y'all the fuck up. So I don't got to say nothing. Because agree and Benegrian Benegriand. He smoked y'all. You especially, Mr. Oh, it's beef. I think this is beef and this, this and that. That's at the end of the verse. We'll get to that. Second verse, though,

are we arrogant to come in here and being clout chasie and grifters, whatever the fuck people are saying now? To say that this verse was probably directed more at more, but sort of at both of us. You have to shoot fits. We'll least that bitch up

and skate. So last night, for those that don't know. They know. For some reason, if you don't know this. The fuck. Cole put out a five-minute song that is addressing everything

that's probably happened in the last four or five months. He started out by giving one of the best verses I've heard this year that has nothing to do with the beef whatsoever. I do want to start by saying as a fan of just hip-hop, period, that first verse is incredible.

But because we're a podcast and people care about the messy shit, we can get to the second verse. Where do you want to start more? Well, all right, let me ask you if you even listened because I know. Oh, yeah, of course I listen. But I'm letting you, I'm letting you say what you got to say

and then I'll speak my piece. Is it? I kind of want your piece first. Can Maul please go first? Yeah, I kind of want your piece first. No, my piece is the final piece. No, like still. Okay.

So you told me. You told me off Mike that you lost sleep thinking about my opinion of this, which I said, I feel like you and Cole now have something in common. Y'all both lost sleep. What did you think my view would be on this? I thought you would come in here and say this is the greatest verse you've ever heard, that this is the greatest rapper in the world, that nobody can see Cole and anything else that will crown him the best rapper right now. You've been screaming greatest rapper in

2024 for the last hour. Yeah, but that was more just to like hype you up and get you mad at me. No, you said that in the spot yesterday, drunk. I wouldn't get mad. Not really mad. So last week, I did say I think Cole was rapping better than anyone period in 2024. I think this just proved my point even further as far as rappers go. I think outside of you losing sleep. I think you and Cole have more in common on the view of this entire thing than you lead on. Me and Cole have nothing in common when it comes to this. So Cole in this verse is addressing what happened with Kendrick and Drake. And you have been up here saying that you feel like Kendrick did some corny shit and started talking about pedophilia went over the line and did did weirdo stuff. And you don't

think that should be in battling, which I agree with you to some, some extent. You and Cole, based off this verse, have the exact same views. And that is why he didn't want to do this battle for the very reason you think Kendrick is corny. No. He said the same thing you said. He didn't want to battle because it's not about that anymore. It's not about raps, which you have said. it's about corny weirdo behavior and memes and coming up with weird stories so he didn't want to participate so he participated so can you see cole's point of view because you guys share the same point of view but he participated agreed and he's still rapping mm-hmm all right so go ahead do you not see that you and him are aligned in the exact thought of the battle and that's why he didn't

want to do it and that's why you dislike kendron we're not aligned at all there's no alignment with me and Cole when it comes to this battle. Do I still think Cole is one of the best rappers we've ever had? Absolutely. I'm never taking that from it. But there's no alignment in this battle between what I think and what Cole thinks. So you don't see Rory's point in? No, I don't.

Cole said I pulled the plug because I've seen where that was about to go. They wanted blood, they wanted clicks to make their pockets grow. Jay Cole wants clicks and he wants his pockets to grow as well. Okay, but have you not also said that this was Kendrick's biggest moment? It is. And that he, this

is kind of his trick throughout his years. It was Cole's biggest moment, too. Talk to that. What was Cole's biggest moment? This battle. This would have been Cole's biggest moment as well. Oh, that's hypothetical. We don't know.

We know. He put a record out. That was not Cole's big. Seven-minute drill was not Cole's biggest moment, but like not even close. 2014 Forrestil's Drive was his biggest. This battle, this moment was Cole's biggest moment as a rapper. You're saying it could have been if he participated. So he didn't participate?

Yes, and then he stepped out based off the exact Convo that you have had with me. Did he participate? If that means I got to dig up dirt and pay the whole team of algorithm bots just to sway the whole thing on social media competing for your favorable memes. This is the same shit you have said, which I have agreed with you when it came to Kendrick. You even came on here and talked about fake views with Spotify and connections behind the scenes. Everything Cole is saying about Kendrick, you have said.

And he said he didn't want to participate. in this battle because that's what it was. I think you guys have the exact same opinion. But he participated. Before he knew what it was going to become. He participated. He put a song out. He had bars directed at Kendrick, dissing his discography, calling his albums lacklustre.

He participated in the beef. I agree. So what are we talking about here? And what is all it is? Who wanted blood? Who wanted to see somebody get hurt? What are we talking about it? This is rapping.

The same thing. The same thing you and Drake also. said at the end of Hart Part 6, like this shit is played out, bro, why you keep doing this shit is weird, it's done, stop with all this. Is the same reason Cole backed out? The same reason you hate that battle and feel like Drake won because Kendrick made up some lies and did weird shit is the reason why Cole backed out. That's not the reason Cole backed out. Stop it. It's not the reason Cole back out. Why do you think he backed out? Why do I think he backed out? I think he backed out because that song he put out didn't land and didn't hit as hard as he thought it would.

I think that was a test that he put his foot in the water to test the temperature and he backed out this... He didn't want no part to me. Of course this podcast is recorded. You can't sit here and say

oh, they wanted blood. Who wanted blood? We wanted to see y'all rap. Nobody wanted to see nobody get hurt. Somebody, of course not. I don't think Cole is suggesting that it's a metaphor. I don't think it's a legitimate blood.

So hold on. This is what he's saying though. Y'all wanted this for clicks and views. You want clicks and views too. You put a song out. You posted a song on YouTube. You want clicks and views as well.

In response to the... So I don't know what that means. I don't know what that means. Y'all just want clicks and views. You want clicks and views as well. Everybody wants clicks and views. But there's a difference between clicks and views when it comes to something having value. Yeah, when somebody steps on your bar and shits on your verse, as a rapper, you stand on your pen.

Kendrick went at Cole. He's sitting on his bar on his only number one record. Yeah. Let's replay how this thing started. Kendrick's shit on your bar, Jamee. And I love Cole. Let me put that out there. It don't look like it though

It ain't about what it looked like It's about what I'm telling you I love Cole I believe Moore does love him Anything he says from now on I don't believe him I don't want to hear it I don't believe it don't land the same

Wait Because when it was time Because if we go back to them If we go back to the tapes The first thing I said When this whole shit started was I'm more impressed to see what Cole does Because we've never seen Cole

Tested That was one of the first things I said I want to see how Cole performs under these lights Because we've never seen it We've never seen it We've never seen him perform under these lights where it was a battle and somebody was going at him and testing his pen. Kendrick shit it on your bar.

You're the one that said big three and all it is. Is it K. Dodd? Is it Aubrey? Is it me? You did that. He shited on your bar. And for a hot second, you stood on your pen and you put out a verse and had bars directly towards him. But then all of a sudden, in the famous words of Trump, he went another way. he backed out. I don't know if him and Kendrick had a personal conversation.

Kendrick gave him, you know, told him what he was about to say about Drake, this at the 30, he was, oh, no, I'm cool. Well, we remember, we were told that schoolboy Q told Cole that this is personal. Whatever was said, if I, Rory, if I go on tour with you tomorrow. Toronto next week. Toronto next weekend. Next week. All right.

You put millions of dollars in my pocket. You give me my first. number one song. Okay. You think that another rapper could say something about me and you, and I don't bomb on that, nigga?

I mean, in my position, I would say yes. I'm asking you a question. Do you think that if you take me on tour and you put millions of dollars in my pocket, you give me my first number one song and a rapper

shits on the bar where I big them up. I gave them props. I put us in the same, we're the best three in this shit. I didn't go at him. I ain't throw no shots at him. Show them love.

And that rapper shit's on my bar. Our song. You think that I would, you think that I'm going to just run home and act like it ain't a war outside? Well, I think that's a separate combo, which I'm happy to have. That's just a whole new topic.

Yes, I could see Drake being upset that Cole did that. We're back out of it. We're not talking about Drake. We're not talking about Drake. I'm asking you, do you think if you take me on tour and put millions of dollars of my

pocket and give me my first number one song and a rapper shit's on that number one song, you think that I'm not going to engage in a back and forth with this dude? I would think so, yes. And that's all I'm saying here. So now don't give me this long voice note because you know Drake ain't fucking with you. Now you want to give us the voice note that you could have sent to Drake yourself. We didn't have to get this. I would love to hear this.

I don't need it. I don't want to do. That's personal shit. Call Drake and text him. The whole beef was personal shit. What are we talking about? Tell Drake, text him, send him a voice note because you, you know, You ain't spoke to him since you spoke to Kendra.

The whole point of the battle was all personal shit. What are we talking about? Listen to what I'm saying. We're not talking about a battle. These are words that we know he wants to tell Drake, but he knows Drake ain't picking up the phone for him. So therefore, let me get this out. He can. I don't want to hear it.

I don't care to hear this shit. I don't care what you or Drake thinks about it when I want to hear Jermaine Cole rap about what happened the last three months. We're not talking about the scope of if you and your friend are rappers and then another rapper, jumps in on some song that you and him got that's number one. Shit's on your bar. You look like you want to fight, but then you're like, nah, I don't want to fight. You go home.

Much later, you kick, and you still, and here's the thing, you're still rapping. So why not just engaged in the fucking battle? You ain't stopped rapping since. And I'm saying, you're saying a separate point. What I'm explaining to you is the answer to your question. He explained why I didn't want to do the fucking battle. But you did.

If Cole never put out a record, never put out a bar, I wouldn't even, I wouldn't even be talking about this. I'm like, you listen, he ain't wanted to get into it. Cool. But you put a record out. Well, if he didn't address any of this, you'd kill him for not addressing. No, how? I don't even speak on Cole unless he puts a verse on.

I'm like, nah, that was dope. He can still rap, but all that best rapper out, best rap. You never wear that title again. I don't give a fuck. You can put out the most flawless verse we've ever heard, and you're never getting the best rapper title from me. What does that do with this? Because when it was time to show that you was the best rapper,

you told us you couldn't sleep and you went home. Okay. So I don't want to hear none of these. I don't believe none of these bars. Don't tell me we wanted blood. We didn't want blood. We wanted to see the people that we thought was the best engaged in

a rap battle. We didn't want you out of fight and people to get shot and nobody asks for that. What is this? They want blood? No, we don't. Go ahead, DeMaris and I'll address this blood port. I have so many points.

The first one. The saying of, I just took you on tour and put millions in your pocket and gave you your first number one. y'all talking like Cole is like some opening like act from like Mississippi nobody's talking like that man and now I'm about to start yelling because that's not what we're talking about you sitting up here saying he took him on tour he took him on tour he put millions

dollars in his pocket it's a fact you don't think that that was reciprocal at all you think that he just took like some random just niggas like some random nigga that had no value you think that Drake took somebody on tour that doesn't put any value because nobody said that but that's how you're talking okay well I'm clarifying we don't have to talk about that fact if Drake takes you on tour you have value we know that I think Cole want to to do that for some fly shit. I don't think Cole needed the money. They did, they did B markets.

They did like Orlando and shit. No offense to Orlando, but they didn't even get a major market. That was two friends having fun. Y'all look crazy, though. Who said he needed money? Who said that? Well, you're talking like he did. You know what I was saying.

He took you on tour and put millions in your pocket. You're talking like he needed the money. That's what you're saying. He took him out of tour and put millions in your pocket. If I don't need the millions and you put millions in my pocket, like why does that matter? If I have millions and you put a couple extra, like, what are you talking about?

I got billions and you give me a couple extra. But I'm saying, what are you talking about? But you acting like he didn't earn that money. Like, that's a handout. You're talking like it's a handout. Who said that? That was two A-list rappers try to have a moment, which is great. I'm speaking to the facts.

I'm speaking to the facts. He went on tour. He made millions of dollars with somebody. And another rapper shitted on your only number one song, the bar that you put in that song. And then you swing. Didn't hit as hard as you thought you would, but you swung and then you decide,

no, I don't want to fight. What is that energy? What is that? So, this is right. Mo, you're saying, you're saying, blood, you really think he was actually talking about people

harming each other? No. What he was talking about? What he was talking about? Is someone is now called a pedophile? That's what he's referring to. Bro. Do you remember when we did the interview

with the Washington Post? Bro, bro, listen. Hear me out. No, no, hear me out. Hear me out. Because I don't want to yell

because I don't want to yell. It's not okay to yell. No, it's not okay to yell. What I'm saying is simply this. No doubt about it. But when it comes to being called the best ever, the best right now, none of that shit gets no validation no more. Because when it's time for the best to show that they're the best, what they do is they show that they're the best. If the best comes at you as an MC, which I believe Cole is, you stand on your MC pen.

Okay. And you have said that. And I've agreed with you. And I have... It don't sound like you agree with me. Let me finish. I have no issue with anyone that feels a way towards Cole and him being. being the best because he backed out of a battle.

I'm not here to argue that. If you view it that way, I actually completely understand your perspective. Now, do you remember when you and I did the Washington Post interview? No. Right after the battle. We had just got back for vacation, Washington, Washington Post interviewed us about what was going on,

and we both were discussing as much as we liked the Kendrick and Drake back and forth. We do kind of need to reassess where we're at with battling, because if these things are true that are being said, this is a separate conversation. This isn't whose baby mother got fucked. This isn't who's more gangster. This isn't who has more goons. This line crossed and it may be a time to evaluate

what the fuck we're doing in rap battles when pedophilia comes in because if someone pulls someone's card and says they're not gangster, cool, who gives a fuck? That's rap music. Pedophiles different. No, I know. We discussed that with the Washington Post.

Now I'm saying, Cole is saying the exact same shit you and I have agreed with. I don't want to part... This isn't rap battle anymore. Y'all have taken this shit to a whole other level. Somebody got called a pedophile. I don't want to participate in this shit.

I don't give a fuck who's a better rapper. Rory, Rory, Rory, Rory. What's all fucking kids? Rory, he called him a pedophile way after J. Cole took the song back. What are you talking about right now? Because I'm sure Jay Cole knew that that was coming. So that's my point in all of this.

Yeah. If I find out, y'all are going that route, peace. But the good thing of this rap show... a song like this is, and this is what I love, whereas not to take a shot at Drake, but it's going to sound like shade. Drake has been posting on his Instagram story and we've been dissecting shade for

the last three months or so. Cole put it all on a fucking record and spoke exactly how he feels. So instead of hypothetically, just read the fucking lyrics. They're here in front of us. He says, my friends went to war. I walked away with all the blood on me. Now some will discredit me.

Try to wipe away my pedigree, mall. but please find a nigga on on blood out that's rapping this incredibly and I finished the lyrics my dog texted me I'll share the words we said to me we read this is important this is why this is what none of talking about send that to Drake I don't want to hear that well then I'm talking of this wasn't even to Drake the majority of this wasn't even to Drake the majority of this was to the fans two lines if you refuse to shoot the gun don't mean the gun ain't deadly I guess in that metaphor hypothetically the gun is me the gun remember We're not talking about literal blood. Damn, you don't sound really objective right now at all. Fuck this shit. Nobody wants to hear this shit, man. Everybody wants to hear this shit.

If you were- I've asked you did all day. Of course you did. If you refused to shoot the gun, nigga. You responded. What are we talking about here? What are we talking about? He shot the gun.

And is now explaining why he backed out. And I'm not here to argue with you. Nobody want to hear that shit, man. You shot the gun. You shot. If Cole never addressed any of this shit, you would call him out for not addressing it. No, I wouldn't. I'm calling him out for exactly what I'm calling him out about.

You can't shoot the gun, aka put out a diss record and then say, nah, you know what, I'm cool. What? Nigger, he went at you. He went at your bar. He shited on your bar. We've had that conversation for the last time every month. And we all can you address what I'm saying? There's nothing to address.

He's explaining why he didn't want to do it. And it's the exact same. same views that you and I have had about this whole shit. No, it's not. No, it's not. This shit is not rap anymore. No, it's not. No, it's not. Someone's going to pedophile at the Super Bowl. This is gone past rat me. No, but my issue with that whole pedophile is you said he's a certified pedophile. You got to show what he's a pedophile. That was my own. Now, if he is a pedophile, then I agree with you calling him that. Then I agree with that bar. If he is, okay. But he ain't. Okay. So that's why that whole shit is

corny to me. So you agree with Cole. No, I don't agree with Cole. I don't agree because if it's true, if it's true, then hell yeah, expose that shit. I don't think that. But if it ain't, don't use that as an angle to try to, because if we go back to the tape before any songs came out, the one thing I sat here and said is, what are you going to do to Drake? You're going to throw the pedophile missile out, I'm calling a pedophile? That's exactly. You know how ridiculous that is?

That's why I said it because it's like, yo, what are you going to say about the food? So, wait, quick question. He got more hiss than you. He arguably raps better than you. He has a great discography. He's been on top for 15 years. What are you going to say to the dude that helped you along the way? that gave you your number one records.

How can you then turn this shit? What you're going to do? Call him a pedophile? So you agree with Cole. It's not about who's better or who's rapping back and forth anymore. It's all about Twitter bots and it's about weird stories you make up about people.

That's why he didn't want to participate. This is the thing, though. Maul has been saying that Kendrick just made up that pedophile for the longest and nobody was saying that Drake is a pedophile and Kendrick made that up. But you knew that the pedophile bar was coming before Kendrick even dropped it. I didn't know it was coming.

You literally just said, what you're going to say about him that he had pedophile before the records dropped. And Drake was. And Drake even said, you're going to go to the empty angle. Like Drake even said he knew it's coming. Like that's the most ridiculous. You're going to say the most outlandish ridiculous shit that ain't true and just throw that in the song? Because, and I'm referencing what Cole said, this shit is now about what's happening on the timeline and bots and YouTubers.

It's not about rapping. We knew that that pedophile shit was coming because the internet right after pushups came out was posting all these clips of Drake on stage with a 17-year-old bringing up the old DMs to that. a child actor. Millie Bobby Brown. Like, yes, everyone knew it was coming. Yeah, that wasn't a surprise. And I'm not saying you have to agree with Cole. And again, I have no issue with anyone thinking

Cole can't be the best because he backed out. I'm trying to have a conversation about what he explained and how it aligns with how you and I have felt even behind the scenes about certain shit with his battle. It's not about this shit anymore. It ain't behind the scenes. That niggas know how I felt. It was just a pedophile ball.

Like, you're going to cost him in man, a pedophile? We talked about it. to that? Like, get out of here with that. We talked about how behind the scenes, Spotify, which I don't think is true, but Spotify has put not like us on every playlist. If you have any type of algorithm, not like us, comes next, that there was an

entire behind the scenes executive play against Drake and Cole was addressing hiring teams, bots. This is not about rapping. I don't want to do this. Everything that we've said. But you're still rapping. He's a rapper. He's a rapper. He's a rapper. But you still have retired? He's still. He's

rapping about this situation. He's rapping about his experiences that he lives, his life. Yeah, God forbid he fucking is direct about something he's involved with. Text that shit to Drake. Tell him you sorry and that's it, man. I don't want to hear that shit. Get out of here with that shit. First of all, we could find the episode where we said that. This is probably into the intro of his album. No, I'm like this because I'm a real nigger. And if a nigger is my man and my and he take me on a tour and he put money in my pocket and he gave me my first number one song, a nigga can't say nothing crazy about that man and me and me not bomb on that nigga. And then months later say, nah, you know, because the blood.

got on me and no what are you talking about? But why are you acting like Kendrick and Cole are just as cool as Cole no they not you don't know that you don't know that you don't know that and you do you have insight knowledge you don't know that do you have insight knowledge that you don't know that you don't know that you don't know that you're willing to share. I'm looking at it. I'm looking at the optics. The niggas don't look like buddy buddies to me. Okay. Not to me. I know who took him on tour. I know who took him on tour. I know who gave him his first number one song. Took him on tour. Yeah he did. He took him on tour with him. That was his tour. He said, yo, come on a row with me. He took him on tour.

Why do you think? What are we talking about? Fine. I will. That's hard to, I will entertain this. Would that not Drake's fault? I will entertain this.

Why do you think first person shooting went number one? If you think first person shooting, if you think first person shooter goes number one without Drake, you're insane. I like Drake verse. Don't get me wrong. You're literally insane.

You know what I'll call. When that, for all the dogs dropped, the only thing people were talking about was Cole's verse on first person shooter. Like, what are we talking about right now? Cut it out, man. You can't say that about a nigga that got more number ones than all of these niggas.

What are y'all talking about? fine, but first person shooter, the exact start. See, now I'm about to start yelling because y'all sound stupid. What the fuck are y'all talking about? Okay, so first person shooter goes number one without cold. How would it go number one if Cole wasn't on it? Then Drake has more number ones than all. Would it go number one?

Where did I say that Drake needs Cole to go number one? I never said that once. I'm telling you first person shooter. It sounds like that's what you're saying in here. That ain't what you're saying. We didn't have. It wouldn't have. It wouldn't have.

It wouldn't have. That's all one even came out. All right, dog. All right. All right. cool. Yeah, all right. Like, all right, cool. That would have been a throwaway.

It initially was supposed to be Kendrick and Drake. Yeah. Now y'all niggas is talking about initially. It was. It was. Talking about a hit, man. Let's talk about what it is. Let's talk about what it is. Okay, what is it is?

And what is? That song's not going number one without Cole on it, too. What are we talking about? I get it. I like Cole too. But y'all niggas got to stop. He did some wax shit. He put a disc record out. He the first nigga in hip hop history to put a disc record out and say, nah, my bad.

you talking about shit that we've discussed a million times. Nobody's talking about that. He said it himself. Yo, niggins. Nobody want to hear that shit, man. Niggas stripped me on my number one spot. And finally, I'm free. Yeah, all right, well, be free, nigga.

Be free. Get the fuck out of here. The fuck are we talking about. The song. You don't want to talk about the song. We're trying to talk about the song. Text that shit and sending that shit to Drake. Tell him you still love him.

Tell him he's still your man. I don't need to hear that shit. Yo, first of all. There's two lines to Drake in this entire, long ass song. Five minutes song. Drake got 20 seconds. You sound like how does like fucking redneck sound when the Chiefs are playing football and they show Taylor Swift

for a half a second? He's not talking about Drake in this. I'm talking about when he's talking about Drake in this. That's what I'm talking about. In a five minutes talk, you're focusing on one line. I'm saying, keep that shit you could have sent to Drake. That's what I'm saying. That part, you could have sent that shit to Drake. I don't need to hear that shit. I don't need to hear about I got their blood on me. No, you don't, nigga. You went home.

Okay. I always want to hear elite rappers rap about what's going on. Yeah, me too. Yeah, me too. Me too. Look at the eye. Yeah, me too. I do too. You don't want drink to-d-a-dress in your bar. Rap about a nigga dissing on your bar. He did. Get the fuck. He said why he backed out. And I'm not here to argue with you being mad that he backed out. Because I agree with you there. I'm not even mad he backed out. I'm not mad at that. I'm mad that you backed out.

Months later, you still talking about you backing out. You still talk. This is his first time addressing it. Yeah, God forbid you reflect on something and come back to your art form and communicate it with your audience. And do it. Yeah, God forbid. God forbid you put out a disc record and take it back. Maybe he should have posted more on his story. Like, what the fuck are we talking about? What are you talking about?

I'm talking about the song. You may ain't talking about no song. Yes, I am. What about it? Five and a half more minutes of this song. What about it? He's a great rapper. Yes, he is.

Read the last stanza. The last portion of lyrics is exactly what he's saying and what he deems to be important as an artist. I don't care about what he deems to be important as an artist. I don't care about that. I don't care about that. I don't want to hear that. I don't care what you deemed to be important.

Then if that's how you feel, then quickly, since you love Cole, what do you want to hear from Cole? What do you want to hear from Cole? Put the album out. Make me, I like the, we sat here and talked about the push, the T. When I don't come out, you're going to shit on it. So what?

Why am I going to, I've never said shit it on a co-album in my life. What are you talking about? Well, this is post-beef? Remember we always talk about post-be? I don't want to hear nothing about this beef. Don't talk about Kendrick. Don't talk about Drake. Don't talk about what happened.

It's over. you didn't want to battle, cool, we know what it is. Don't tell us why you didn't want to battle. I don't matter why you didn't want to battle. Some people do care about why he didn't want to. Man, nobody care about that shit. The real niggas, that right? The real rappers, they don't give a fuck about nothing this shit.

And I can tell you that for a fact. The real niggins y'all listen to that really write rhymes and rap, they don't want to hear this shit. They're looking at cold like dog. It's over. He didn't want to battle. It's okay. If you didn't want to battle, if you don't think Jay Z walked out the kitchen when he saw that

dropped and went in the backyard said Beyonce, give me a minute. to listen to this three times you are bugging. Not I was listening to shit last night. Everybody listened to the shit last night. Twins and y'all ass down. Nickets is rapping. Twins and y'allah ass down.

Drake, who's an elite rapper, walked outside to his back fucking yard and listened to that shit twice. And then what? Apparently sent you a voice note and told you how much you don't fuck with them. This is what is given to me. Send me a voice.

Moving a little bit to the other side here. Do you think that I lied on Cole when I created the narrative? that he picked a side? I don't even know if you created that narrative. I don't even know. And I told you what I told you

and I said it again today. He didn't have to pick a side. A side was picked already. Sao was picked already. You know Drake ain't fucking with you. You know that. So what is that? What did you mean?

He picked a side. He didn't have no side to pick. It was only one side he could go to. But when you go ahead and do a song with somebody that's my op after that entire thing, I felt like he picked aside. So do you think I lied on him or no?

No. No, but I, But again, I don't think he had a side. He only had one side to choose from. Drake ain't fucking with you. You know that. Clearly you know that. You ain't spoke to that nigger since before the whole shit set off.

Do you think Cole even particularly cares? About what? His relationship with Drake at this point. I don't know what he cares about. We're talking. I don't know. I don't know what Cole cares about. I know Cole is a great rapper.

He makes great music. But that best rapper shit, he could never, ever wear that title again in his career. You don't think there's anything honorable about after that entire situation saying, yo, I would never be embarrassed to say you have done so much for me because you and myself have also been on this podcast saying how much Drake has done for every artist in the game right now. And a lot of artists have pretended that he didn't do anything for them. So Cole be like, yo, bro, I'm not embarrassed even though he's a peer. Thank you for everything you did.

I appreciate you. Okay. Why, you could have texted that to Drake. What? I don't need to hear you say that. that? I hope elite rappers rap everything instead of texting it. I don't want to these rap. When it comes to this, when it comes to the situation, no. Why? I don't care. Because you didn't bat. It's over. You didn't battle. Stop telling

it. Don't tell us why you didn't battle. Nobody, it doesn't matter. But he told us on stage that he didn't want to. He could have texted that to Drake. Exactly. You told you on stage, you said why you didn't want to. So leave it there on stage in Dreamville. Leave it there. That's it. Months later, now you're giving us a verse dedicated to Drake and why you love him. Dedicated to Drake. What the fuck are you talking about? Was this last verse? Was not part of this last verse dedicated to Drake? No, it was dedicated to his point of view of what happened after he backed out at DreamVo. So he didn't say Drake's name in the-in-parts of a-9-4-bar verse.

It's not a dedication to Aubrey Graham. So send that, whatever you had to say about the beef and that, send that to Drake. No, I want to hear. Anything else? Yeah, because you just want to hear what he has to say. I don't care to hear what he has to say about the-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d- I don't want Drake to text Kendrick how he feels right now. I want him to rap about it.

The whole thing played out publicly. Cole wants to address it publicly. That's what he's doing as an artist. No, no, nigger, but you didn't battle. You said why you didn't want to battle ready. He's not battling here. He's just addressing his point of view on everything. But he said it at Dreamville, he said.

He expressed how he felt. And as an artist, you should expect to hear more from an artist. And then dedicated to more music, yeah. I don't want to hear about his position on his battle. It's music. I don't want to hear about his position on the battle. Well, then that's a personal decision that you don't want to hear that. Anything I've heard

Everyone out Who gives the fuck What we think about this battle Cole is the number one person I want to hear from And then Captain Drake I want to hear music from Coles I don't care about

YouTubers, podcasters, us, we are the last people that I even want to hear from them. The person that lived it. Also, he's an artist

and he has the freedom to express himself. He can release whatever he want you have the choice not to listen to it. But if he wants to express himself being an artist and this is his form of expression

and he has every right to do that. And there are people who want to hear it. You don't want to listen to it? You don't believe him. You're not on his side. That's fine. He sat up there and said, y'all strip me on my number one spot.

And now I'm finally free. I'm not competing anymore. I can release whatever I want because I know that I'll never be number one. Y'all will never call me number one. So I can say whatever I want, I can do whatever I want and I am finally free. This is rap. This is rap. When you say that, you're applying codes and rules that you deem important.

That is just sounding like a soap opera. What the fuck are we talking about? This is rap. Because they instigate the fuckery because it's profitable. But singing stop the violence tunes when do. who's in the hospital. This is not just dedicated solely to his position at Dreamville Fest. This is a look and a point of view of where all rat battle shit is at now and who's

profiting off what? Vince Staples had the best reply to this entire thing. Why is no one talking about publishing? That niggas talking about publishing. Because, and you know, listen, I was also the same person that came in here and said Stiles P had the best take when Drake backed out of that battle. you can't dictate the rules, you can't back out. This is the mud, like this is the culture when it comes to battling.

And I agree with that. But at this point, we can't take a step back and look how far this shit has gone. It's no longer two MCs going back and forth to each other. The Super Bowl's involved. Streaming's involved. The METs PESP's involved. Yeah. And you say, you're a whole, there's a song that goes, bop, bop, bop, pedophile, pedophile,

that is the number one fucking song in the world. And we can't. We should step back and go. So, all right, man, listen, I love URL, but this is a little, this is different. And we can't say that people aren't getting blood drawn when Rick Ross got jumped for playing a song in Toronto. Or wherever he was, man. But that's, but that, but no, it's not a serious thing. But sometimes you got to get punched.

I've been punched. Which is fine. Which is fine. But then you also can't say, you also can't say that shit does not grow from this. My point in saying that is this could go nasty. When you are calling people pedophiles and calling people wife abusers and this and that, things can get nasty and things can be taken the wrong way.

A security guard did get shot outside of Drake's house. Which is one of losing sight of that too. And we're not all sitting here pretending like rat beef has not spilled into the streets, but it was probably street shit before it was rap shit. But we talked about right after like that and push-ups, this is amazing because we know these two are not going to actually harm each other.

This can stay on wax finally. because we have seen most of what rat beef now is, especially on the drill side, is actual beef that people are just wrapping about after. That's not rap beef. So we were happy about this, right? The only way for it to work in these times is to take it as far as pedophile

because just wrap it on wax don't even work. So how do you even have a battle in this day and age? Because we don't want it to get violent, but if we need to keep it on wax, we have to go as far as calling someone a pedophile. So if I'm cold, and I know that that's coming. Peace.

I'm going to sit with my wife and kids. All right. You done? Sure. All right. So my stance is this. Cole is one of the best rappers we've ever had. There's no doubt about it. He's one of the best rappers I've ever heard. No doubt about it.

When you're talking about rapping and emceeing, which I think Cole does at a high level, he's a great MC, he's a great rapper. You have a rap battle. Somebody steps on your bar. In rapping, that's blatant disrespect. It's time to stand on your pace. pin. He jumped out there. He put a record out. Boom.

Fell some type of way. Took the record back. Cool. Step away from the battle. Drake and Kendrick do their thing. Cool. No matter who you think won, that's your decision. Cool. All I'm sitting here saying is today. I want to hear cold rap. Love to join to put out with T. Grizzly thought that verse was crazy. He's had some other verses he put out that I like. Kyle Green's with daylight. Daylight is fire. Like that joint. I'm simply saying this. When And it comes to saying, like things you've asked, is he the best rapper right now? He can no longer ever, ever compete for that title.

It doesn't happen. It can't happen, which is fine. That was his choice to make. And I think he's okay with that, right? He's still going to be successful. He's still going to sell a lot of records, still going to sell a lot of tickets to his shows, still has a fan base. Career goes on. I'm strictly talking about when you say, yo, who's the best rapper right now?

his name is no longer allowed in that hat. Because you can't be a rapper in the MC and when another rapper in the MC blatantly disrespects you and comes at you, putting out a record and taking it back is absolute blasphemy. I don't know if it's ever happened to probably have,

but that's absolute blasphemy. So that alone is saying, okay, you don't want to engage in a battle. Cool. I'm just saying me personally, if you're an artist and I'm an artist and you have a tour and you say,

Come on the road with me. Okay. I go on the road with you. We do tours. We go around different cities. I make millions of dollars going on the road with you. You're my first song that went number one. Okay.

There's no way that a rapper will shit on that song on my bar and I don't fully engage in a battle with that dude. I don't have an argument. And that's all I'm saying. That's fine. Doesn't take nothing away from Cole's ability to rap. Doesn't take none away from Cole's ability to put out great songs. doesn't take nothing away from Cole's ability to make great albums. I'm simply saying when we sit around and start saying who's the best rapper,

you cannot put Cole's name in that hat no more. And again, I have no issue with that take or people that feel that way. In conclusion, how I feel about this as someone that lives and breathes this hip-hop shit and loves when rappers actually beef on record and want that to actually continue to move forward with the culture. I also don't particularly care when it comes to good music. I'm going to listen to Kendrick. I'm going to listen to Drake.

I'm going to listen to Jay Cole. And I hope they all put out incredible music. And I'm not going to listen to it with the ear that you can no longer rap or make good music because I feel like you backed out of a battle. Now, I'm also fine with the take that he can't be number one because he backed out. But if you think I listen to this with an ear to not enjoy it

because I thought it was bad that Cole backed out, you're crazy. I love music way too much to make a battle define how I view another rapper. But who said that? You're saying, you didn't even want to hear this shit. I want to hear it. No, I'm someone. I don't want to hear what he has to say to Drake.

I heard the song. I like this. I like the bars. But all that shit to Drake, you stole my nigga, I love you. I don't want to hear that shit, man. Like, dude, text that to that man. Nobody went to. I don't want to hear that shit. Like, you know what you do is funny. You don't see, Maul, as someone that you've come on here a lot and talk about ending violence and hip-hop

and being the, the pinning. I'm just, I'm not talking about this situation. Just listen to me. We talk about changing. hip hop and moving away from the violence and in stepping into the integrity, all the shit that you usually say. You don't think or see the value in one of the biggest artists in the world speaking directly to another one of the biggest artists in the worlds on a record and seeing how like just gestures like that, lyrics like that, actions like that help move the culture

in like a healthier space. Just objectively speaking. These guys are, he calls speaking directly to Drake saying by name and the line that he delivered with. his name in it. You don't see how that would help move or like push hip hop in a more positive direction at all. Fuck the beef. I'm just saying in general. Everything you're saying is valid if Cole doesn't put out a record.

But see, it has nothing to do with the record. Everything you're saying is valid if Cole never responds. That's my issue here. You responded. You put out a record. You did that. If you never did that, oh, we don't have, it's like, yo, fuck it. He didn't want to engage. It's cool. But you can't

engage and then say, Nah, you know. You've never done something and had to change your heart afterwards. Oh, I've punched niggas in the face, jump Nick, beat niggas up, all that. Got home and was like, we was wrong for that. But I ain't stop in the middle of the fighting, like, yo, nah, y'all. And he, and homie swung on me first? That's actually usually the guy that gets hit.

And the dude swung on me first. Kendrick swung first. Let's be clear. Kendrick punched Jake Cole in the mouth. Not, of course, not literally. But he responded to that bar. He's sitting on Cole's bar. all cold was supposed to do is fight back

back. And he did and then decided, no, I don't want to fight you. I mean, cool, you don't want to fight cool. But you can't hang out at the cool table no more. You can't run. Me and you can't be friends and we just made all this money together and we lit and then a nigger stepped to you and punch you in your face.

And I get in the fight for you pretty much is what Drake did. Because he's sitting on your bar. But fuck it. It's my song on my album. I'm getting it. he had some slew shit to say about me. All right, cool.

But I can't start fighting this nigga and then you run and go home. We really pretending that this beef was about... Drake grabbed his ball and ran home and ran to LeBron's Barberchette. Cut it out. Cut it out. Because you're just talking about

he didn't put out another song or he didn't want to put out anymore. He got punched in the mouth. He put out music. And he said, bro, you're taking it too far. He put out music and he continued to put out music. Yeah, Drake literally said it's going too far. And three days later, that shit was off DSPs.

Yo, Maul. I don't want to hear it. Mall. By the way, I don't want to hear it. I don't want to hear it, I don't want to hear it. I don't want to hear it. It don't matter what you're about to say because you're wrong. No, I'm not. I don't care. I don't care about her. He said I don't want to beef. And then the whole A side of Scorpion is still talking about it. What are you talking about? What are you talking about? The entire, the entire Scorpion is about.

The entire A side is about. It's about what are we talking about. He said, yo, I don't want to do this anymore. You guys took it way too far. Like, I'm done with this. And then dedicated the whole side of an album to discussing what happened. That's not what happened, though. That's not what happened. That's not what happened. we're talking about two different things here. We talk about two different things here. We talk about two different things here. That situation clearly went a whole other way. And other people got involved. That was like this shit, somebody got hurt in Toronto and stayed.

Somebody got stabbed. That shit went a whole different way. That, wait, first of all, that happened after. Happened after what? After the take back. After the take back. What I'm saying is that situation was a, that was really a... It had not gone too far except for, quote-unquote,

exposing Drake's kid. That was as far as it went. listen to what I'm saying, that situation was way more personal and way more behind the scene shit than this situation. And Cole is saying you're calling someone a pedophile, I don't want to be a part of this. Are you listening? Why are you talking about what he's saying to Drake?

I'm talking about Kendrick and Cole. You're talking about Drake, you keep bringing Drake name up. I'm saying Kendrick and Cole didn't have no real beef with each other. It wasn't no street shit with each other. Kendrick just sitting on his bar. And as the MC, you're supposed to stand on your bar and defend your bars. And I'm saying, Cole is suggesting that he had heard where they were going to take it. And it was, let me finish.

And it was going to get too personal the same way Drake sat with LeBron and said, it got too personal. I don't want to do this anymore. Why do you keep? And then he explained what happened. The whole A-Side of Scorpion. You can't keep Drake name out your mouth. Stop saying Drake. What?

Stop saying Drake. What? Yes. You do the only nigga. I didn't say anything about Drake. I said Kendrick and Cole. Kendrick and Cole. That's why I'm keeping it.

You keep going on. But when Drake did a Scorpion, I'm not talking about Drake. But that's not fair, Maul, because he's using an example of your, you're the very thing you're critiquing call of doing, Drake did years before that. And on top of that. On a bigger platform. Why can't I bring up Drake when you keep saying, yo,

if somebody brought me on tour, gave me a million dollars, gave me my first, uh, number one hit. You keep bringing up Drake. What are we talking about? I'm replying to what you're saying. All right, man. I love hip, I love hip, I love hip hop debates. What we got next?

I love everyone in here. This is all healthy. promise. I don't, I don't care to ever talk about any of this again. Well, that's not going to happen. We're going to. I'm not talking about none of this again. Y'all have a blast. Because no matter what happens, Jay Cole is your guy. He can do no wrong in your eyes. You can't see how he's trying to stop violence in hip-hop. He's disdemeanor. And Drake's not your guy and he can't do no wrong in your eyes?

Of course he. And that's my whole point. Of course he can. But the only time Drake name come, it ain't me bringing Drake's name up. Y'all bring Drake name up. Yo, this day, Drake, Drake, and then I got to respond to the shit. so now it looked like I'm talking about Drake. I don't care to ever talk about none of this shit. Y'all want to keep talking. Okay, so here we are. Y'all not going to change the narrative and make it seem like, nah, but Cole, you know, he just felt like it was about to go a different way

and he doesn't want to see no violence in the hip-hop. And this stuff, man, shut the fuck up with all that shit. This is rapping, man. See, we agree there. I'm just talking about the record. No, you don't. You don't agree there. It's going too far.

We're talking about pedophilia. This nigga apologized before a pedophile even came into. the play. This nigga took his record back. I'm aware. So what are we talking about? I'm talking about this record. I'm talking about taking the record back when you shot. Don't say your gun is still deadly if you don't. Nicker, you shot. We had that conversation already. Don't tell me a gun is still deadly if you don't shoot. Nigga, you shot. You shot a record out there. You threw a record out there. I'm talking about this song. I'm talking about this song.

I've agreed with you. I'm talking about this song. For months. He's compared itself on that. A gun is still deadly even if you don't shoot. Is that what he said? I believe that is a boy. Did he shoot the gun? Yeah. Thank you. he did thank you and then said i don't want to be the gun yeah he tried to grab the bullet out of mid air and take it and put it back in the barrel i know what's that angelina jolly movie where they curved wanted wanted it's a great movie he did he did wanted it went around morgan freeman's head i don't know what he did still a great rapper but when that best rapper shit that yobie talking to here who's the best man get the fuck out of it but he said in that same bar you're

quoting that he doesn't want to be the gun and i'm saying it's okay to have your opinion that you view him differently for it i on record have said the same thing i'm talking about this right. He's telling us the exact same things you and I have said. Me, you and Cole are all aligned. No, we're not. I've never said none of this shit that he's saying. He said he didn't want to be the gun. You just said that. But you were the gun. You shot. And then said, I don't want to be that. You don't get to do that. You can't unring a bell, nigga. What are we talking about? And that's okay for you to feel that way. I agree there. But I'm talking about the song and what he's saying. Okay. I'm not co-signing that. What? The song? I love the song. Of course you co-signing it. Yeah, you jacking it.

I think it's an incredible song and I love to hear his point of view of the last month. I can disagree. I think he should, when you put out seven minute drill, you're in the shit. So yeah,

I agree with you there, but why can't we look at this with fresh eyes and be like, all right, he's talking about what happened and bringing another perspective. What's wrong with that?

He's telling us why it happened. Nobody's forgetting that he dropped out. Yeah, nobody's forgetting that he's dropped out. Nobody's saying, oh, he's back to being the number one. Yeah. just says that to piss you off.

Like, it doesn't take away the past couple months and what happened, but it's still a good song from a good perspective. Like, I don't feel like what I don't understand. Who said it wasn't a good song? Nah. Nah. Who said it wasn't a good song? You could play that.

I said it wasn't a good song? No, you never said that. Okay. You just said, no, nobody want to hear this shit. I don't want to hear you tell break. You love him and all that shit after backing out of a battle that a niggas came at you first. Really? He disrespected you.

We all know, like, we. We all knew who Kendrick wanted smoke with, and it was not J Cole. We said that from the beginning. Yes, we know that. We know that. So this was your beef. No, it wasn't. And that's also what Cole is saying on this entire thing.

This wasn't about me. What the fuck I'm even doing here? This wasn't about me. He's shitting on your bar. This ain't about me. He's sitting on what you said. What did Demeris just say? Why y'all don't care what she said?

Why do you keep making excuses for this nigga? I'm not making excuses. He backed out. He put out seven-minute drill, which is a great temperature. He wasn't really going at Cole. He was going at Drake. What are we talking about? No, no, no. See, you're missing to what Damarish just said.

We knew the goal was for Kendrick to go at Drake. It wasn't for goal. Of course it was to go at Drake. Drake is the biggest star in the world. Of course you shoot at the top. Yes. Of course. But he still shitted on your bar.

Yeah. That was just, yeah. All right. Matter of fact, we could probably go to the episode when like that came out. And you said it was a weak bar that shouldn't even have any response to it whatsoever. I did feel like that. Like, why would even, why would someone even rub up? I did feel like that.

And we also said this has nothing to do with Cole. whatsoever. This is 1,000% just a Drake shot. We knew it was that Drake because Drake is the star. He's the biggest star in the room. And Cole did something that I disagree with from a rapper's perspective. And that will always be on his jacket. And that's all I'm speaking to. But that does not

deteriorate my mind from wanting to listen to Amazing Jay Cole music, especially when he's explaining a situation that has been the biggest thing in this modern time of hip-hop. I'm always here for it. What is there to explain outside of what he did at Dreamville for on

stage. Oh, God. What is it to explain? Just listen to the verse then. Yeah, just rel- He says it all in this song. And it's nothing to explain. You didn't want to battle.

Cool. All of this, I got their blood on me. No, you don't. You're really hyper-focused on that one line. I'm listening to shit. He's saying, he's saying

he got their blood on them. No, you don't. No, you don't. Well, he's a, rappers have metaphors. Well, you also just sat here. You just sat here and said that all of this happened

because of Cole's bar. So if you're saying that all of this happened because of Cole's bars, then yes, Drake now being called a pedophile and Kendrick now being questioned as being a domestic abuser, that is blood. According to you saying that he's the reason his beef started. So yes, technically the blood would be on his hands. I said he's the reason it started. You just sat up here and said he was the shit on his bar. Where is that saying he's the reason it started? I never said Cole is the reason this shit started.

I said he disrespected you. another MC, disrespected another MC and you went home, you took your basketball and went home, you left the park. Okay.

That's what I'm saying. Like, okay, cool. You didn't want to play ball. You can't come back to the park talking about you the best in the city. No, you're not. No, you're not.

When the lights was bright and it was time to dance, you went home and made some tea. Do you think in this record that he focused on saying that he was the best? Did I say that?

I'm asking you. I think you said that? I don't know if he's focused on saying he's the best. No. Okay. I'm just saying when it comes to anything with Drake, Kendrick, Cole, just leave it. Don't even speak on it. Just leave it alone.

Because when it was time to say what you had to say and how you felt, you left. He could have said that. He could have said that as part of the battle. As a rat fan, I would love to hear Kendrick do something very similar to this. And Drake, too, not even going at each other. Explaining how the fuck they feel after this whole day. Now you just want to, now you just want to be nosy. Now you're just trying to be nosy.

No. Let them niggas talk behind scenes. Why I love Drake is because he tells me all about his personal life. I don't need none of this music. Why I love Kendrick is because he tells. Mr. Morale was the nosiest fucking album ever. Yeah, but I don't need this battle shit. I found out his auntie was a man.

I don't need to hear none of this battle shit in these boys. If y'all niggas is the battle is over and it's done, just let it be done. That's it. And that's my thing with Cole. Just let it be done. I know that Cole's mother has experimented with crack. What are we talking about? This is why we love rappers because they tell us about their personal life.

What does that have to do with the battle? Well, it's his life. I don't want to hear about the battle. This isn't about the battle. I'm talking any, okay. I would love a reflector Drake verse just like this about what's going on right now. I would love a Kendrick 1-2, not even going at each other. Matter of fact, I can't say the word.

It's one of my favorite Nas songs, though. The last real N-word alive. Nas told the whole story of how he felt before, during, and after, the Jay-Z beef. One of my favorite Nas songs ever. But you just killed Drake. for doing that on Scorpion. No, I didn't. He said he's talking about it on the whole first side of Scorpion.

I had no issue with it. I wanted to hear about it. I'm saying I was comparing it to you having an issue with Cole doing something similar. I have no issue. I love a side of Scorpion. Because Cole didn't want to battle. That's the only reason why I have an issue with him speaking on. You didn't want to battle.

Why is that so hard for you to comprehend? He did not want to battle. My only issue with him speaking on any of the shit is that you did not want to battle. You didn't want to do that. I'm just trying to get you to be consistent in your argument because the intro to Scorpion, which is incredible. Survival. Starts with, man, I was about to, mm, nah, I thought about it.

If Cole said that exact same bar, you would kill him. What are you talking about? Man, I was about to, mm, no, I thought about it. We were waiting for you to reply to Storia added on. We couldn't wait. Now, where I'm being inconsistent is that Drake stepped in the arena. Duffy freestyle, to me, is one of the best disc records ever. But then someone punched you in your nose and then you backed out.

I don't put a stain on his jacket for it. That's what happened. Okay. Maybe you know something I don't know. I don't know nothing. That's just what I saw. And I would love to hear from Drake about how he feels now. I don't even care if he disses Kendrick. Just tell me how you feel.

Kendrick, I don't even want you to go at Drake. Talk about what happened. same way Nas did in that record, broke down everything that was going on. I think, and I think it's one of the most genius records ever. I would love that from all elite rappers, especially when it comes to the biggest rap beefs ever. That's just where I stand with it.

Again, where I stand is Cole's one of the best rappers I've ever heard, one of the best rappers we've ever seen. All I'm saying is best rapper ever of your time generation. All of that is null and void. That's cool. And that's your opinion? And I'm not bad at the team. Still a phenomenal MC, still a phenomenal rapper,

but when it was time to really show who you were, we saw it. You didn't want no parts of it. And deeper than that, away from that, the fuck the part is now, Cole, you can't respond to nobody. I mean, everybody could do whatever he wants. No, you can. No, you can. No, you can. No, you can.

That's selective. Politicking. Don't do that. Don't do that. Don't do that. Don't do that. When Kendrick wanted smoke, when he sit on your bar, you didn't want no parts of it now. Don't go at the lower tier nigger that, you know what I'm saying?

Might have something slick to say about you. Don't do that. Okay. Well, can I ask you one more question? Don't do that. And this is me bringing up, Drake, not you. At the end of Hart Part 6, when he's suggesting, why are you dragging this out?

Like, I don't even want to do this shit anymore. Like, I would have danced to that, but you talk about some weird shit. Like, I'm cool. You burnt this shit out, bro. Is that not similar to what Cole did, especially after Drake had a song that was drop, drop, drop, was. on Instagram, nonstop saying, yo, where are you at?

Where you at? And then once Kendrick dropped everything, he said, why'd you drop so many songs? How many songs did Drake put out before the Harbour six? How many verses did he put out dedicated to? Oh, I mean, verses a lot, which I think is great. All right, cool. But why are you telling someone to keep dropping?

And then when they drop, you go, you burnt it out. Like, I don't even want to do this no more. Stop. I'm happy I can motivate you. I don't put staying on anyone's jacket at all. Like, I disagree with what Drake said at the end of this. And I disagree with cold backing out.

But that doesn't make me not listen to this music and want to analyze it and talk about it and like it. And want to hear more from them. Oh, you know, I always want to hear from these rappers. He's the best we have. I also want to hear from them. I just don't want to hear nothing about why you didn't battle. I don't want to hear that. Save that shit.

That's literally what Drake said at the end of Hard Part 6. I don't want to battle anymore. Rory, just... Why do you keep going to the hard part? How much shit did he put out before that? he kept saying drop records and then he dropped him and then he said why'd you drop so many records yeah and how many records did cold drop one how many do you take back it's still on you too oh yeah i bet i bet it's on youtube i just want to say i love everyone in the room there's positive energy here

no dang where where oh wait don't tell me y'all just can't argue about hip-hop passionately and think that there's actually people are mad at each other right who i'm not mad at Oh, no, I know you and I are. I'm not mad at nobody. This isn't how y'all argue about hip-hop? That's the, you know what I stay. I was just screaming in your face last night about taboo. It's the same thing when it comes to discussing hip-op.

But they love Cole. I understand. I get it. I'm not about to sit up here and be painting. Like, I can't be objective about Cole. I just stop arguing sometimes because you don't really be trying to listen. So, like, there's no point. No, you don't.

All I did was listen until I started talking. You feel how you feel about Cole and you feel that way. So anytime anybody big says, him up or has a different opinion, you say that people can't be objective and that's just not... I never said, who I said can be objective? You literally told me that last episode that I can't be objective about Cole. Then when you were just talking about it, you like, yeah, you know, that's their guy,

so it has nothing to do with that. We can be objective about Cole. We came in here and shitted on him right along with you when he did that. You shit it on him? When he did that, we shitted on him. We agreed that Ebe should have unplugged everything. I have a whole... But you didn't shit on him, though.

Don't say you should have shit on him. You may have agreed that Ebe should have unplugged that. And that he shouldn't have did that and that we were disappointed. Yeah, we all agreed on that. You didn't shit on him. Okay, well, no. The extent of the insult wasn't good enough. I mean, yeah, we were disappointed.

Is that not us being objective? You could not not be disappointed if you're a cold fan. There's no way to not be disappointed when he did that. Everybody, every cold fan in that at that festival. Yeah, so our point being is we can toggle between being a fan of hip hop and wanting that beef to play out, but then also understanding we see both sides of it, objectively. There's no way. There's no way you can be a true cold fan

and see his side of not battle him. As a true cold fan, you wanted to see him getting that ring. We did. That's what we're saying. I can want you to do something and understand why you didn't. That's not, I can disagree,

but I can still understand why you didn't do that and be able to say, okay, hey, if I was in your position, I don't know, I might have took that too. I don't know. I've never been in that position before. I don't know.

I don't know what you knew and what you didn't know. I don't know who was in your ear and who wasn't in your ear. You know why I can't fuck with Damaris? Why? What's homies named that fraud hub And she put out a YouTube video

Going right back at that nigga Derek Derek went at you and you went right You busts right back So don't sit here and say Nah I can understand You bust right back at Derek We're not doing that

You went personal too We're not doing that So you as an MC You stood on yours You stood on your pencil How did you say this But I didn't have anything to lose I didn't have anything to lose

You ain't back out from Derek You went right for Derek neck I didn't have anything to lose back then I don't know if I would have the same reaction Right now I didn't have anything to lose back then it'll be worse. It'll be worse if a nigga

dissed you right now. It'll be worse. Your response will be worse. I don't think you're actually listening because I was saying the exact same thing. We wanted Cole to do that and we disagree with him backing out. Everybody agreed.

But we understand because he explained it. It doesn't make it okay. No, man. I don't understand that shit. I will never understand a rap or not rap. Hussling just ain't you. Okay, cool. It's just not you.

It's just not you. I will never understand a rap or not. Especially when you're telling us you, Muhammad Ali, you this, that you're the greatest. So, Maul, you don't have nothing. You don't have nothing in the tuck, no deep, dark secrets that somebody might know about and might want to put out nothing.

Nothing in my closet. That's why I could talk my shit and drag my dick all over the place. I love that energy. It's nothing in my closet. Nothing. I ain't ever did no wax shit, no sucker shit, no nasty shit. Fucked with no underage girl. Never did none of that shit.

Ain't none of that in my closet. Only thing in my closet is some fresh. You can get flog on in that motherfuckeruck. Would you ever come out of it? Who you talking to? I'm fucking with you. I'm fucking with you. I'm trying to lighten the mother.

That was good, though. That was a good shot. I don't play like that. I don't play like that. I don't play like that. First of all, Paul said your life, I heard. I know, no. Because they already

because they already, see, I already didn't went through my time on the internet when niggas started to say I was gay anyway. So I don't, I don't even play. Who cares? I can't. Why do you care? Why do I care?

If somebody called me gay, I'd laugh. I don't care to the point when I'm not addressing on the internet. I'm just saying we ain't going to play that game because and they clip that and be like. Like, you're going to get mad at Rory for saying. I got. Mad at Rory? No, I said, we're not going to play like that.

You do, yeah. Well, actually, I didn't, I got mad at Rory. I actually got mad at my mom. I've never been mad at Rory in my life. What are you talking about? I'm not mad at him. When if I ever got mad at Rory? When do you see me mad?

We've had disagreements, but like mad is a- You think I've ever gotten mad at you? You think I was ever like, yo, fuck Rory. No. The fuck are we talking about it. Oh, can't relate. I'd be like to every 10 minutes. Never.

I've never, I've never felt like that about Rory. That's my life. That's because I haven't smoked more on taboo. No, nobody can't smoke me in Taboo. I don't wish there too many interrogations. I know how to say everything and nothing at the same time. That's damn right. I'm the nicest nigga in the world in Tabu.

Okay, so Ma, if I'm saying, okay, so it's two words, right? I want to do a deposition and I want to be, it's never happened to me. I've never been in interrogation room. Like, I kind of want to experience that and, like, check it off my list. Only nigga might be better than me in, in, what you're playing charades? Tabul. The only nigga might be better than be a taboo. Hurting with Sean do charades.

That's why they kept losing. Only person that might be better than me a taboo is Yassel Woody. Yo. Stoney thing that might be better than me in table. Oh, yeah, he's killing it on the stand. They're about to have a mistrial. They could have to throw that whole shit out. Fucking with Woody up there on the stand. And again, civilian over here.

Is he a snitch? Or is he a genius? I don't even know if he's a real person at this point. The shit he up there doing. I'm like, yo, that got to be AI, we're looking at. There's no way that these niggas in the court really doing it. I have never seen anyone spin a prosecutor or the police like that in my entire life. Yeah, he might be the only one that got me in Taboo.

Anybody else, it's going to be a long night. Like, not even Webe did that. I've never seen anyone spend a cop like that in my entire life. Getting on the stand and said, I lied about everything. I'm telling the truth now. Prosecutor like, wait, what? Yeah, no. Yo, being the star witness against the person that's on trial to then just say,

and I don't even know him like that. And they're pulling out wild photos of y'all together. You're like, nah, I don't even remember that. And even, like, him saying, Because he told the cops when he, unfortunately, he had his child with him one time when he was being shot at. And he told the cops who it was. And then he said, go look at the footage.

No one came out the car. Clearly I was lying, you. Yeah, see? Your evidence proves that I was lying. So why am I on the stand? Why am I even here right now? Fucked them up. Fucked them up.

I want to see, I want to see Jesse back on the stand. I was to say, speaking of lying. No, but Jesse is just an idiot. No, he's just dying with a lie. Yeah, but he's just, come off, that wasn't even a good lie. See, why I saw what he got. The lie was awful. First of all, first of all, I think it was probably the greatest lie of all time.

No, it wasn't. Didn't fool me, not for one second. Internet killed me because immediately I was like, this is bullshit. Get out of here. Anybody with common sense knew he was lying. All right, let me not use the word respect, but can you appreciate that this far down the line, he is on entertainment tonight in 2024,

for still dying on that lie. I mean, what else he going to do? I respect, but can you appreciate that he is continuing to get on camera and look at us like we're all crazy? I don't know if I, I don't know if appreciate is the word. But I'm looking at it like, I mean, what else you're going to do at this point? You can't, he can never say, y'all, I was lying. Quit, let's play it. Matter of fact, no, he even gave us, he gave us grace before you play it.

Thank God, Jesse gave us grace and said he understands that, that we were spun. They gave us a narrative. and he he really forgives us for not believe in him because we were just giving this this narrative that was spun so I thank you Jesse

for giving us that type of grace but you can play from this I can understand why people feel the way that they do specifically because of the narrative that was spun

and was given to them I've stood by not my truth but the truth the entire time for almost six years I haven't switched my story up

I haven't changed a wild story to switch up I stand by every single thing that I've ever said, everyone else in the situation, every single person has changed their story numerous times. So I don't really know what else to say about that. Again, I understand if I felt some sort of way, if I knew someone or respected them or even

didn't care about them and heard the things that were heard about me that were just factually untrue, then I would feel some sort of way too. So I can't sit here and say, you know, oh, well, that makes absolutely no sense because it does. Yeah. Thank you, Justin. Nobody gets beat up and having news put around their neck and is able to walk home

and walk home with the news still around their neck. And bleach. Nobody orders a meatball sub. Nobody always a meatball sub. A meatball sub. Get beat up with bleach and then the meatball sub makes it home.

I'm just curious who changed their story. He said everyone's changed their story. Oh, you mean change the story to the truth of what happened versus what you said? The cops have been pretty consistent in the evidence that they found. Right.

You're two men's in them that are on camera buying the sex. They rolled on you. They rolled on you. Gave it all up. And first of all, their story never changed.

They went to the cops and was like, yeah, this is what happened. So yes, Jesse, people's story is not the same as your story. You're still on the side of the lie,

which is like, okay, maybe if you want to look at that as honorable, he's not moving off of his lie, his story. But, Jesse, I think we all know anybody with a brain

can tell that what you said was a lie. But if you want to keep, you know, you dying on that hell, die on it. Where I guess I can use my appreciation here is that once he did the rehab thing, I assume that was going to be the pivot. Mental health, addiction. Yeah, I was in a really dark place. I didn't know what to do.

I was crying out for help. Why didn't anyone help me? I was crying out for help. Yeah. I'm sorry for lying. He came out of rehab, dead sober and was like, nah, they poured bleach on my face in a noose. Yeah. But the meatballs up

Two MAGA white guys were running around Chicago With a noose and bleach And then also knew the show Empire Yeah He came out of rehab and doubled down on that But the meatballs up made it home Nah Jesse Speaking of dying with the lies

Jay Z and Beyonce's attorney Basically intervened After the Jaguar rights appearance On Pierce Morgan They didn't intervene They told Pierce Morgan and them To play with somebody safe And yeah, they basically said delete, like remove that interview, delete the archive that footage, remove the false accusations or a court is going to order you.

So they're threatening a CND. Well, I mean, I don't know if we spoke about it, but I think people I spoke to away from the show, I told them, I was like, bro, pretty sure that lawyers are preparing something to send over to Pierce Morgan. We said, while we recorded that episode, I said, while we record this, I guarantee you that lawyer is calling Pierce Morgan immediately. Yeah, I think that's the end of Jaguar rights run on the internet as far as, you know, making up stories and saying wow shit. I think that no platform, no big platform is going to have her on. She might still be able to do a couple of YouTube shows and things like that, but no big platform will have on after that. She recently said that Jay-Z had Bigel killed so he could steal Bigel's rhymes for reasonable doubt. What platform does she say that on?

I'm not even going to plug it. Oh, okay. But no, it checks out, even the dates match up. Yeah, naturally. Like, yeah. Even. Yeah, so, you know. Reesful's out came out in 1996.

Listen, man, I don't know, man. Bigel died in 99, 98. I just think that, you know, again, mental health we need to pay attention to. Yeah, and I know we've lots about Jaguar, right, but, you know, she lost her son to murder. Like, I get where some of this really may be coming from. So I really do hope she gets the help that.

she needs. And I mean that respectfully. Because I know that's got to be super traumatic to lose your son in that way. Yeah, I understand. And condolences to the family on that. I lost a brother to street violence. But I'm also not... Fair. Spewing.

And I smoked Jaguar right? The last two episodes. I'm not condoning any of that. It's nasty and disgusting and it's not an excuse. I just hope she gets the help that she needs because just throwing this type of shit on people's jacket. And it could be, as a real thing, result of the thing she went through, but nah, just get some help. Yeah.

That's really it. She said, Beyonce and them created Chloe Bailey to be like the next her, like. No, you ain't see that? You ain't, you don't hear the tone? But, no, the crazy shit is she wore a picture with herself on it, and a lot of people thought that there was Chloe Bailey on it, a picture of Jaguar when she was younger. And I saw

like the resemblance, but she was like, yeah, you see how like the two combined and trying to create a replica of us. I was like, damn. They're trying to create two Jaguars. Yeah. I ain't even look at it like that Listen, man Her son interned at Rock Nation

And they approached him And asked to sacrifice her Speaking of Jaguar, If you haven't heard the deluxe To Victoria Monet, go listen now Like just put it on repeat How did you get to? Jaguar

Del Lose Segway Queen Segway queen Segway queen Go listen to the deluxe of Victoria Monet Jaguar It is great

I love the deluxe I actually kind of wish I get the deluxe thing now, obviously, to bring more streams to the original project and keep it moving. I think that could have been its own EP. Like, that deluxe is fire. I'm happy for Victoria Monet, man.

Like, she's really, like, in that tier, on that tier now of, like, one of the top R&B artists. Like, she's dope. She's been dope for years. But we supported Victoria for years, though. I'm happy to see her finally get her recognition. The deluxe is 10 more records.

Yeah. Yeah, that's a whole other project. his own shit. Yeah. Yeah. It needs to be Victoria just open her mouth. So I might go hand her a Grammy right now. Like, I want her to be like that. And perform at the Grand Prix. When is she going on tour? Did she have had a tour yet? Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. I got to see her when she was that made. That was like a... I want to see like her full-out production. We saw her with the Illuminati. Yeah. We were sitting right there with him.

There was a bunch of kids, too. Yeah. Did you guys see the theme for the 2025? Even Peas just shook his head at me. The theme for the 2025 Mechala was released earlier this week. I think it was yesterday. And it's super fine tailoring black style with the co-chairs being Cole Domingo, Lewis Hamilton, A. Sap Rocky, Farrell, and Anandah, and LeBron. I think this is dope. Hopefully the men stick to the theme this year. The men always seem to kind of veer off a little bit.

But I like the people that they have as it cheers. Can I bring some hate in here? Coleman Domingo is he's always dressed nice. Lewis Hamilton. Amazing. All those. Aesap. It feels like there's one name that just doesn't really make sense in this sentence.

Everyone else that's named is a fashion icon. Yeah, it's like her event, though. You're not fucking with Anna. That's not who. Oh, we're talking about Braun. No, I'm talking about Anna. Oh. Well, half the room thought you were talking about Braun.

The other half thought it was Anna Wintore. Oh, no, I'm talking about LeBron. Oh, you are talking about LeBron. Okay. I was laughing at Ball's joke when he said Anna Winter. Well, I mean, you know, he's a black man.

It's going to sound like hate if I keep talking. This is based on, this is based on the style of black men throughout his. He did invent the ANR, so you probably know something about. So the only, the only name up there that's kind of like, huh, is Anna Wintow because she's a,

no, you can't take that away from her. I get that, but that's not applicable here. No, I mean, it's, it's her event. Yeah.

We get that. Yeah, we get that. But I'm just saying those names right there. Anna, Gallo Wintor. Yeah, those names right there. she might be the one that's like for black men style okay but no this is um this is gonna be fun to watch i got a feeling like you know this is this is for the men to finally like you know put on

the right shit and stick to the thing like i think they geared that toward like okay fellas there's just no way i can fuck this up this year all right i'm gonna bring it more hate especially as someone that can't dress so it's definitely hate lebron is gonna i cannot wait to watch this NBA players are some of the worst dress people on earth I can't wait to see all of them on that fucking carpet. LeBron does a pretty decent job. No, Bronn might be actually probably one of the better dressed NBA players. They are going to look nuts.

I mean, if you keep it just, see, my thing is always just keep it. Name my NBA player that's been keeping it simple lately. I'm just keep it simple. They're not going to. Or you got to just put on a nice suit, you know, a couple of accessories, things like that to make it pop a little bit. You ain't got to go too crazy when it comes to black men in. our style throughout history. Like put on a good suit, maybe a good hat, you know, things like that.

You ain't got to go. Don't give us, you know, shit, dragon and feathers. And we don't. Yeah. Russell Westbrook and James Hardin are the two names that came to my mind where what to what Rory's saying in terms of basketball players that might go. Russ goes nuts. But at least like that has always been his thing.

I can appreciate his style for what it is. He's always stuck to that. These other NBA players be wearing whatever. Yeah. You've got mail. All right, let's get the voicemails. What do we have, Julian? Anything good today?

Yeah, I'm trying to light the mood. I think the mood is fine. Okay. Let's, yeah, this is a fun one. Yo, it's good, guys. Longtime fans since episode, like, I think, 90 of the last pod. He's rolling during it, which is extremely annoying to me. So just all that background noises him rolling weed.

Just have a quick question. So I have a pretty lengthy criminal record. Last charges I got were from like 2017. I've had to duck and dodge my way through background checks while I'm waiting for a pardon. And I just got a new job. They hired me. Everything was good. And then on my first day, they hit me with the background check.

Do you guys think it's better if I kind of play dumb and just fill out the application as if if there's nothing on my record, or do you think it's best if I talk to my manager directly? Did a context. It's a really small company. 15 people. I don't think there's a proper HR department. I think everything of that sort would just kind of go to him. So do you guys think I would have a better chance if I just kind of explain to him?

Like, all this shit is from like seven years ago. I'm different now? Or do you think I should just play dumb and see what happens? Let me know. Thanks. Well, he left out a huge part. Yeah, what are the charges? What the fuck did you do?

Yeah. What did you do? That's going to change the explanation. Yeah. But if, let's say we just have the information we have. We don't know what he did. I think that it's probably still always best. If it's a small company, he sounds like he has a rapport with the guy he works for.

Just have a real honest conversation when I'm like, listen, man. Like, I thought about not being honest, but, you know, I didn't want to do that and be worried about every day I come in here. did you find out yet? Did it, you know, come back to you? Yeah. At that point, you're not even comfortable in your workplace. Like, you feel like any day he's going to, you know, find out about your history and your, your criminal past and probably end up finding you because one, you didn't tell him.

Or whatever you did is just they don't want that type of person. Like, you did what? No, you can't work here. So, I mean, if it's not nothing too crazy, I say tell him, talk to them about it, have that honest conversation. even if it's something absolutely crazy. I mean, he's going to find out eventually anyway. So just for that peace of mind and that comfort,

just have a real talk with him, man. Sit down and just kick it with him. Like, listen, man, you know, that's, I know that's my history, but I'm a different person. I don't know how long ago these charges were or whatever, how many years ago this happened. But just have honest conversation. And hopefully they don't piss test while he's rolling up.

Well, do comedy still do that? I don't know. Certain, certain, certain jobs. Yeah, I can see. still drug test you. If it's federal. So if you have a federal job, then yeah. But if you work in a legal stage.

That or like, I would imagine federal are like something where you're operating heavy machinery. Yeah, like if you work for the MTA. A factory. They drug test you. I came across unrelated. No, kind of related. I came across an account on Instagram and it's like I feel like an account mall would

follow. That's why I keep seeing it. It's, you know, a lot of, it's like people, terrible accidents. It's just people dying. Like I follow that account? Yeah. Because every time I hear over here your phone, it's like someone getting shot or like someone dying. People sending me shit like, you know.

But like it's just, it's in my algorithm now. And I found this one account that I've been going down doom scrolling the last two nights as I go to sleep, which is awful, which is probably why I've been sleeping. I've watched probably 300 people die the last two nights before going to bed. Most of the videos, though, are from factories, people getting stuck in machines, a hydraulic squishing someone. Also a nice one where it turns, it turns somebody into a scarf. You've definitely. you've definitely seen them

this machine whipped all the guts out of this it was just like whatever he was wearing was spinning on the belt one guy got pressed similarly the hydraulic he was like taking something out and went into the pit and the hydraulic came down like behind him and pushed him in

and like this half breasts up were still sticking out and you could just see his like insides pouring out of his armpits yeah nice yeah it's pretty sick and then I went to bed shit is that it's gotten to us.

Like, who is the guy that was looking at the security cameras and was like, oh, I'm definitely, yeah, it's got to go on Twitter. Sending this to X. This has to go on Twitter. Sending this to X. Like, that's, that's who I think HR really needs to look into. Like, the guy that is taking those tapes and then putting them on the internet for all of us to see is insane to me.

Yeah. What type of security guard saw that and went? No, that one thing I saw when the person got caught in that thing, that was crazy. I didn't even know the body could do that. Is it fucked up that I want to see that? No, I mean, you... You say that until you see it. No, no, but you know, it's not as...

Seeing it is like, holy shit, but it's not as... It wasn't gory, though. It happened so fast to where... I don't even think the person bled. It was just like... It just turned it to a... He was just wrapped around his whole shit. Those machines have no give.

They're so powerful and they're just... You're just gone. Yeah, that's it. And it happens so fast to Moss Point. there will be other people nearby operating the person won't even yell scream nothing it happens so quick there's not even a noise they're just gone

yeah one lady put her arm through a machine one time she was trying to fix something and they went down her arm and pressed her arm she pulled that shit out that shit looked like an ankle sock I was like I was fucked up but I was just like damn she was all she was holding was a hand

everything else was just like down here I was like damn I'm trying to find this. And she didn't, you can tell it don't even hurt because it's almost like, you're such a shock that your body part looks like that. You're like, what the fuck? Speaking of brutality, have you guys caught up with the Aaron Hernandez show yet? No.

I still haven't seen it. Is it not the funny show you've ever seen? Oh, Aaron Hernandez, I watched one episode. Yo. The Menendez one I finished though. The guy they have as gronk is the funniest shit. I saw the locker room scene. I saw that

that, that's going around Twitter. And it's, it's tough. Like, I have to give the actors that are doing Bill Belichick and Gromk, like, a little bit of grace. You saw Many Saints in Newark, right? Mm-hmm. The guy that's playing young Silvio, people were shitting on, like, yo, he's doing, like, an over-exaggerated version of this person. It's bad. How, is there another way that you could play that person?

Right. Like, play this clip. Is there another way you could play Blanc? Nice. You mean coach yet? No, not yet. had two of the fucking scary. It's a good laugh impression.

Holy shit, that's the brain. No shit. Let's go, baby. But is there another way you could play grunk? You got to kind of just be... It's awful acting, but gronk is just his own personality. Yeah, Gronk can't play nobody else but gronk. Anything they put him in, he has to be himself.

I still want to know if him smashing that Lego shit of Steve Harvey was scripted or not. Because to me that's still, to say it's one of my favorite clips on the internet is saying a lot. Because there's so many clips. That was for New Year's, right? That was that staged. That was a New Year's countdown, right? I almost feel like it wasn't. This is so funny. Which is the craziest pairing for hosting to begin with.

But hilarious at the same time. Somebody went out their way to make a Steve Harvey Lego. Are you serious? I don't want to work with him no more Why is he here? It's the outfit to The helmet What is wrong with you?

You're mentally imbalanced This nut right here You mentally You know Look at him dance You know how hard it is to get them brown Legos Oh man I mean

You know how hard he needs to get them brown Legos is hilarious He was setting the tone For the year It was all downhill after that That was 20 20 Shit after that Bronx, he may have been on to something.

He was giving us the signs. But again, please everyone watch that Aaron Hernandez shit so we can talk about it next week. We got another voicemail? Yeah, let's do it. Yo, it was good. So this is probably going to be all over the place and shit. But basically what it boils down to is I haven't had like,

I've had like girls that I've fucked with. You don't know what I mean in the past couple years and shit. But nobody that I've like seriously considered, you know what I mean? Like it's a mutual thing where I really fuck with them and they really fuck with me. Fast forward. Now, though, I got two, kind of three

different girls that it's that situation. You know what I mean? I really fuck with them. They really fuck with me. But it's been so long since I've really been like out there like that. So my question is, it's like, how do I entertain all

of them without being labeled like a fuck boy? You know what I mean? Like... So, fuck, am I allowed to be fucking all of them? Like, say... And yeah, before. So how do I lie about what I'm actually doing to be perceived as if I'm not doing it? Yeah. Okay.

So fuck boy. Well, let's hear him out because maybe he comes to, maybe there's a reason. Basically, of course. Or should I not be fucking any of them? Is it okay that I'm talking to all of them? Like, should I be going out on dates with them? Like, and I guess, too, what even classifies as like talking to somebody? You know what I mean?

So I don't know. It's just been so long since I've been like seriously in the dating game. with, like, you know, interest on both sides. You know what I mean? So I'm kind of a little bit lost right now. So, and I'm sure, you know, very person to person or whatever. But if y'all could clear it up just a little bit,

be hella appreciative. Do we believe Mr. Bitches over here? I mean, why would he call in and lie that he's dating three women? Yeah, come on. What's the point of that? Nobody would do that. This sound like cap to me. But, you don't know.

Like, why would you call him? You don't know. You just sound like you hate him. right now. That's a fact. Yeah. Mr. I'm Mr. I'm no bitch. Yeah. So let me shit. Because he got three and you ain't got none. You hating? Damn. Damn. Come on. Yeah. Welcome to hate. Yeah. Stop. Don't don't hate on him. No, but

yeah, you're just a fuck boy. Man, I think just wear it. Just wear the title. Just run into it. Lean into it. Fuck it. It is what it is. But you can do this in a way where you don't have to be an asshole to them. You can like respect the three women and want to get to know them equally, but not like, you know, pieces of meat. Yeah. No. I mean, There's never no reason to treat women like, you know, just meat.

But I'm just trying to dispel like what the term fuckboy means is like you're fucking a lot of women, but you're dogging them and treat them like shit. That's not what what means. What's your death? Fuck boy is when you're pretending that you want something more than what you actually do. It's like when you portray to be something else, like you're leading me on like you want a serious relationship. But in reality, you're basically lying to kick it.

That's being a fuck boy. Deceiving all three women. What would make you from a fuck boy to two, two, Two Mr. Bitches is if they all know about each other. That's when you really ill. Once they all know what time it is. Oh, you got to be in a certain tax bracket to get that off. Yeah, who said that to my bitch is in the club?

And I know they know about each other. $10 a dollar time. Yeah. Different tax bracket. Gillerson. You and that tax break? I've gotten that off when I've been broke. Oh, but you were dealing with dummies, though.

That's a difference. Yeah, facts. Yeah, either you're dealing with a dummy or you're in a different tax bracket. That dumb pussy. Yeah. No, that dumb pussy is dumb good. Dump pussy is dumb good. No, I mean, if you're having unprotected sex with all these women, you should probably say something.

Only if it's unprotected. No, even if it's protected. Oh, yeah, definitely. Either way. But you also don't know what they're doing. Chill in. Yeah. Who's to say they're fucking one guy.

Yeah. They're never fucking one guy. Exactly. So, I don't know. Game is game. Go watch your fuck boy shit. Yeah. The game is the game.

Never say never. Game is the game. And this is why STDs are running rampant. It's the gift. Listen, you don't have. to you don't have to lie to women if you, if a woman likes you enough, she'll lie to herself. So just make sure you're being

honest with everybody and you'll be fine. Shit. Man, if you listen, if you heard that, don't do that. If you heard that, be honest with everybody? Hell no. In this scenario, if they're not being fully honest, if they come to you and like, yo, I'm only talking to you, where is this going, then be honest with them. But who's to say that these three women

aren't lying to him about what they're doing? They're always lying. That's true. Well, just because somebody else is lying, mean that you need to lie. Yeah, but I'm not going to be late to the lie party. I'm just here to lie down. Yeah. I love the way you lie down.

Yeah. Lie down so I can lie next to you and we can tell each other beautiful lies. Yeah. But this is the thing. I like when we lie. But see, I like those kind of lies when we know that they're lying. While I pull out. When we know that we're lying, though.

She'd be like, come inside. Come inside of me. I'm not going to, but it's nice to hear it. Thank you for telling me that. I will never do that. Love that you said it. That's never going to happen. Oh, you nasty.

I'm not stupid, though. Y'all ain't real lovers. I'm a real lover. But one thing I ain't doing. Because you gotta die with the lie. You got to be Jesse Smolet. I know you don't. You say this pussy yours?

Nothing it then. Nothing it. It sure is right. Nothing. Tell her to take that meatball, so. No, I'm cool. I'm not nothing and nothing. No, I'm cool.

I'm gonna pull out and jerk off in your curtain before I come in chat. Swag. Straight up. Nah. Why am I? Have you accidentally got it on the curtain before? Huh? Have you asked?

accidentally knutted on a curtain before. Accidentally nutted on the curtain? Yeah, like, you were pulling out and like it just, it's definitely happened to me. Probably more than once. I definitely have. Not on the curry, but by the sofa by the window.

I did. What's the weirdest thing you knotted on? The weirdest thing I nutted on? This girl from Brooklyn? She was weird. Yeah. It's always a chick. Object.

Well, that doesn't change her head. Crown Heights, right? Yeah, I was going to say that doesn't change. The weirdest thing. I don't know. I don't know what the weirdest thing I would know. I'm trying to. I got to be cutting on anything other than her or in the condo.

Well, we, curtains. There's definitely been multiple times that I've been hitting it from the back and pulled out and thought I just came on her ass in her back and didn't see that I nutted like in her hair until like 30 minutes later. After cleaned it up, everything. And then like, we're chilling. And I'm like, yo, you have nut all in your hair right now. Wow.

You know, like, sometimes. That's never happening, yo. Yeah. Definitely. I knew. I didn't, like, see it hours later. But sometimes it's dark and like you can. Thousand percent.

Oh, you be fucking in dark? Sometimes. He bright enough? I need a little bit of light. I need a little. I got to see that. I'm the only thing that can glow in the room. It can't be pitch.

You fucking a pitch dark? I have before. That's crazy. I need a little bit of light. I don't prefer that. Yeah, I need so. I got to see her. Like, I got to see you like.

Yeah. You know what I mean? Just a little. It doesn't got to be the lightsing in it. Maybe like a TV or lamp and the ball over love. Like it's middle of the night and she puts her ass a little closer to you. Yeah. I don't remember, like, getting head in the dark kind of, like, amplifies the feeling.

It's like being blind. Like, all your other senses are stronger. I mean, I know no one wants to hear about my kinky shit, but I love a blindfold. It heightens. I understand that Helen Keller book. All your senses get heightened when you can't see. I understand the well. I'm just a visual.

I like to see her get nasty. I'm a visual guy, too, Ma. I like to see her getting nice. Mix it up sometimes and take away. Oh, I've had some spooky head. Yeah, I've not seen it sometimes. Cool. Yeah.

But. Preferentially, I'd like to see it. Open your eyes and see a nigga down there. Why would that ever happen? How would he be there? Who let him in? Questions that need answers. Delivery, man?

So wait, there's no audio people here? Everybody is visual people, there's no audio people here. I'm not trying to deprive any sense. I'm audio over visual. What you mean? You'd rather hear him say something? Yeah.

Hearing is more important, it seems. Oh, you like, I got to see that. I got to see the woman. I got to, I just love. Well, that's because it's probably because women are something to look at. De Maris likes affirmations. That's what that's called.

Demaris like a nigga, like, you are beautiful. You are strong. I mean, you got to talk her through the nut. Oh, for sure. Coach her through it. That my Michelle. That's my Michelle.

Mm-hmm. You're going to fix them greens. You're going to go fix some greens when we finish. Look at the shit that just comes and goes. Like, No one's even talked about that sense Because that was bullshit, man

Shannon was bull He promo in that Yeah That pill Can't even went Yeah When he talked about it that day He pulled those pills out

I knew that that's what That was just a promo for that That was his skit Wait before we close it With this guy What should he do? What's the deal? Be honest

Just be honest Should he ride this wave And then no Be honest man You can find Somebody gonna somebody gonna be down with it You might lose one Or two of them

But somebody is there You'd be very surprised at what women are okay with. Like men really don't need to lie. You don't. Women be with the shit if you're honest. Like, all right, cool.

Thank you for being honest. I'm still gonna keep fucking you. You don't have to lie to women because if a woman likes you enough, she will lie to herself. I'm telling you. No, but I'm gonna just help you though. I'm gonna just help you with some lies.

Like I said, talk her through the nut. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You got a lie. Speaking of sentences, Have y'all ever got head outside in the winter? Mm-hmm. That's just, that's up there with a blindfold. Whole different type of sense.

Ooh, that's like, it's brick outside, you brick. Jack Frost. You just brand it's, yeah. I feel like my teeth will get cold. I don't know. Why is the sensation that's coming into mind is like chewing a piece of gum after you drink a glass of OJ? Or like brushing your teeth and then drinking orange juice.

That's the sensation I'm getting. But on your dick? Yes. Because, like, I'm picturing, okay, see this out visually. You're getting head. No, fuck. Believe it. You're getting head.

And, like, if she's using a lot of spit and all that. And then it's like when her mouth's not on your dick and you're not getting the warmth of a mouth, you're getting a rush of cold air. Have you ever been freezing and then got into that hot, steamy shower and it just all your senses heightened? That's what it's like. I just want to know how cold is it and why you can't just go on to that. I was wondering too. Well, he likes it. That's the sensation.

Like, were you in the car and I didn't have the heat on? Like, where the fuck were you at with your red ass? Yeah, how cold is? If it's anything below 30 degrees, I'm going in the house. I have talked in this spot of, I used to fuck in the park because I couldn't go to like, couldn't bring a girl to the house and 30 degrees living with my mom. 20 degrees. I think he was thinking like 50 degrees.

You're in a building. No, park right there You flirting with the sex offender list With that move He was a kid though We were the same age No but you can't have sex in the public park Were you over 18?

No When I was fucking in the park I was under 18 Hmm Still You get half of the dent-d-d-d-you-don You don't get the den-dun you don't get to You know being a pedophile When you're 16 fucking a 16 year old

Is fucking crazy If you're fucking around a plate Well, you wouldn't be a pedophile. You would be a sex offender. You would still be on the list. You would be a sex offender. Yeah, you got to let people know when you move in the building. And they put your face in the lobby.

He lives on the fifth floor. He's a base. All I did was take a piss in the park. Do you y'all remember when they used to catch you still in the supermarket and they put your pictures in the front? They still do that. They still do that. They still do that. A bodegas do that a lot.

Hair stores, too. The hair store new bitch is dirty. Oh, I got to go. I'm going to start going to start taking pictures of them shit. We got to start a new segment. Oh, I'm taking pictures of those shit I saw a meme of like a store had posted a photo of a guy

taking one of those photos down and said he stole the photo Of himself They put a photo of him because he stole And then they took like a screenshot Of the video of him taking down his own photo He stole his own photo I remember the first time I went to the supermarket

By my crib, I grew up on my block And my cousin was on that shit I'm like, nigga, why you came over here to still? You don't steal at your local bodega Yeah but don't come to my block What if you walk into my building after that? Like yeah You don't got four stakes in your jacket

And now you're coming to my crib Like go home She don't go into the park to fuck That's what he had He had, yeah, four steaks They made that nigga hold four steaks I'll say that's my cousin man Do y' y'all have any klepto

Like homies that like have the money But they're still klepto Like I have a home girl I'm not gonna say her name Because y'all know her Very well off The bitch every time we go to the grocery store She's still

She can't help it I mean it depends on what you steal Cardi B. I'm not paying for no grapes. I ain't paid for grapes since 9-8. Let me just be real. That's false line grapes. You still, you steal grapes to this day? Yeah, hell yeah. That's the first thing I grow. When I go shopping. Green peppers I don't pay for.

When I go shopping, because usually the produce hours when you first walk in, I get the grapes, put the grapes right in the top right there. And as I'm shopping, I just eat the grape. And you finish the whole. Well, but I don't finish. I just put on a random shelf before I walk out. Oh, it's your snack around the store. I feel that. I mean, sometimes you grab a protein bar. I'm spending $250 in here.

Let me eat some grapes. I can't judge because I conveniently forget about everything I put at the bottom of the Oh, yeah, my McCroy? I have no idea what's under there. Oh, and then I get to the park and I'm like, damn. I got to pick this up. I would go back, but, you know, I'm already here. I'll get them on the next one.

I got you. It works. Nah, I hate when I'm at self-checkout, and it's the nigga that, like, ma'am underneath your cart. Blow dick. Like, why are you in my business? Self checkout is the easy shit to steal it. Not, but some of the whole fools dudes, they stay in there, like in front of, like, looking.

Yeah, that's when you got to look at him and be like, what's up? I see you too. Like, watch me. I'm stealing, yes. Some of this shit, I'm paying for some. But the small shit, there's body sponge. I don't feel like I should have to pay for this. Why am I paying for a body sponge?

Bringing up good point. I'm wearing that shit. I'm going to use it for two weeks and throw it out. Like, why am I paying for this? I don't mean. Some of it's worth, what, a billion dollars now? Daddy's? Yeah.

Okay, making sure. Yeah. Scrub Daddy is the, that's like the... I have the whole line. Scurb Mommy, you got scrub mommy too? And whatever that little pay shit is for your pots and pans that scrub daddy has. Yeah. How Mark Cuban passed on that, I do not know.

Yeah. Crazy. Big miss. He's doing all right, though. Cuban crib is probably dirty. That's all. I'm going to go ahead and say it's probably not. It's probably clean.

It's probably spotless in there. He got the money to pay for somebody. Dude, the dish, daddy. Yeah. It's everything. Are you going to vote for Mark Cuban in 2028? 2029, whatever? He's not running.

President? No? No. Why would I? Been bringing up some good points. It's to be him and Elon. Oh, I'm voting for Elon. Elon couldn't run.

Why? It's South African. He's not born here. Obama was born in Hawaii. True. That's right, bro. That's not even America. Yeah.

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