New Rory & MAL - Episode 313 | We Cry Together

Episode Date: October 22, 2024

Happy Tuesday, gang! The team hasn't seen each other in a while because of tour so we come in, catch up, and get to the sh*ts! While Rory & Mal were holding down the fort in the 6, and Julian was in the Carolinas trying to asses the damage done by his GOAT (15:40), Demaris was in New York at an event called 'Bottle Wars', causing the team to pass well-deserved judgement over her and what she does in her free time (21:00). Speaking of judgement, is Martha Stewart a bad person (25:40)? The iconic businesswoman has a documentary coming out October 30th, and in it she discusses what led to the dissolution of her marriage - including some secrets she kept for over 30 years. We discuss some other things we're currently watching, including Love Is Blind, and consider bringing Clay back as a correspondent (36:00). In other media news, the democrats put on an advertising masterclass (insert sarcasm) with their latest voting ad (39:58). The team is split on how they feel about it. Kendrick sat down with SZA for a chat for Harper's Bazaar, and we discuss some of the things both artists said that touched us personally (54:45). Julian is over the moon about a new Tyler project that's coming next week, we review his latest snippet, and give our usual predictions on what we expect and hope for with his forthcoming release (1:13:19). We have voicemails! The first is a guy whose lying a** ex won't leave his momma and church home alone (1:31:10), and the second (trigger warning: STI'S, Depression, self-harm) is from a guy who tried to fornicate his way through depression, and ended up catching an incurable STI (1:53:06).For MORE Rory & Mal, make sure you subscribe to our Patreon community, for exclusive episodes, first access to tickets and merch sales, private live chats with the team, + more! https://www.patreon.com/newrorynmalFollow Rory: @ThisIsRoryFollow MAL: @MAL_ByTheWayFollow Demaris: @DemarisAGiscombeFollow Julian: @Julian__nicholas To watch the podcast on YouTube: https://bit.ly/NewRoryAndMALYouTube Don’t forget to follow the podcast for free wherever you're listening or by using this link: https://bit.ly/NewRoryAndMAL Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoicesSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

This is an I-Heart podcast. Guaranteed Human. I can't even buy a home in private. Home invasions got my brother's gone. Notice every call that's driving by. I think my neighbors won't be dead. I got a cannon underneath the bed. Triple checking if I lock the door.

I know every creep that's in the floor. Motherfucker, I'm paranoid. I loop around the block. Eyes glued to the rear view. Rather double back. Then regret hearing, peop. Never trust the bitch. If you good, they could trap you.

So just strap it up. But they fuck around and strut. You can't In that Can you start Mm-hmm Mm-hmm Mm-hmm

Mm-hmm-hmm Mm-hmm Mm-hmm-mm-mm-mm-mm Okay In that tune Charge? That's what that way And we are back.

We are WMBA champions. And we are back. We are back to hot. The only championship's New York can celebrate is the women's basketball, New York Liberty, winning it all. Yeah, I went to the Giants game on Sunday where they got clapped. I mean, I was happy Sequan got his revenge because I do fuck with Seekuan a lot. But as me and Caz were leaving early, I was just screaming at least we have the the liberty. That's it. The liberty.

The liberty, they're the queens of New York now. Why not us? Brought my rally towel. Dub. All we got. All we need, baby. Went to bet a winner. Facts. Heard about it.

Why not us? Why not? Well, hopefully the Mets can get behind that rally cry. They got clapped up. I did wear a subway series shirt just in remembrance, you know. What could have been. Of what could have been? Yeah. I knew the Mets wasn't going to handle businessmen.

Yeah. I was kind of hopeful for a subway series. I mean, I wanted it, but I knew it wasn't going to happen. I went to the game on Thursday. The Dodgers, they got too much over there, man. I was hoping that it would also bring World Series tickets down. This could just be a stupid thought, but I was like, all right, if both teams are in New York, maybe, like, that would lower, because there's more games for New Yorkers to go to.

More taxes. Because there's only so many home games for the Yankees, the others are going to be in L.A. So the tickets would be higher because there's less games. If all the games are in New York, then New Yorkers, like, maybe it would go down. I like that your brain kind of like... Was that hopeful? Yeah, but that's not how it works, though. It would be double taxes.

We've got to pay double taxes if it was something we said. All of a sudden, the train fare would be like $40. Exactly. To go to the Bronx. Two stops. Yeah. Yeah, $40. Okay, and we won't stay too local, but do we think that Eric Adams will be front row

the way Giuliana used to be at all the World Series games? Like, he was behind the catcher. It would see... It would be front row at a... Pasada and Giuliani. Well, he'll be closer to the stadium. It's a courthouse right. A beautiful courthouse with a lot of steps.

Beautiful courthouse. Have you ever seen the movie Shaft? Oh, yeah, that is. Yeah, same courthouse. That's the courthouse every guy. You guys see his recent, he came out and gave a recent address, and he wore this hat. What did he address? I don't care about the hat.

The fuck is my tax dollars. What did he have to say? Nothing that he's throwing a liberty of parade. They're going to go around City Hall. There's another prison over there, too. Before we go any further, I do want to send praise. Prayers to DJ Clark Kent. Yes, absolutely.

You know, continue prayers and strength and to him and his family. Send as many prayers up as possible for our legendary brother, one of the icons of our culture. DJ Clark Kent. Love you, Clark. And definitely prayers to his family as well

because I know they're going through this with him. And fuck everyone on the internet that tries to be first with stuff. I mean, you know how to... Like confirm things like death, please. Because my heart dropped. I think that was what? Wednesday?

Yeah. We don't even need to get into it. Just, you guys are weird. I'll just put it that way, and we can get to some, you know, some happier stuff. We're fresh from the six. Well, I left pretty early. I think you landed this morning. No, I'm going to.

Toronto. Saturday. Okay. I got back Saturday. I got in Saturday, afternoon. We can get in the show because it was one of my favorites. But Friday morning in the group chat, call them all. Like, yeah, you want to split an Uber?

He's like, I think, I'm a stay for a few more days. Hmm. Another day. Yeah, but I thought that would. roll into like, well, I'm already here Saturday. Might as well stay Sunday and then take the Monday morning flight because it's only like 30 minutes. No, I got out of it.

I got out of. I left Saturday, man. Did you guys leave the boy in Toronto? I did not see the boy. No, the owl. The boy. Yeah, he was in, you left him up there? One of those trees.

No, he flew down south of the winter. He's in one of those trees up there somewhere, man. Shout to everybody that came out to the Toronto show. Had a great time, man. Great crowd. Great energy. And shout out to our guy, Snow Day. Shout out to Snow Day.

Scarborough Legend. We did a walkout to Wagwan Delilah, which was hilarious. I think the greatest. So ridiculous. It was so ridiculous. I was really jealous when I went to go see Gilly and Wallo when they were at Sony Hall because they came out with Freeway. And I was like, damn, that's hard.

Freeway, we got Snow Day. So, yeah, I feel like we kind of matched it with Snow Day in Toronto. Yeah. It wasn't quite what we do, but Waguan Delilah, I think, really represents the town. I represented very well. Snow Day shout out to all the guys that came out, show love. There's some ladies in the building, too, in Toronto. Definitely some non-means.

Some ladies in the building. Thank you to all the ladies that came out, had great words of encouragement. Showed a lot of love after the show. Yeah. Julian, remember that couple that got engaged on stage? Yeah. They got married and they were at the show. He had a ring.

Yeah. Really nice rings and all. He was correct. He just needed a little bit more time. A little more time. This time. But we brought them on stage and didn't even try to like break any one up. Just celebrated love.

No, we can't. There's no breaking them up. Like she knows how to cook like African dishes now. Like she's a white girl, right? Yeah. She's a lifer. Yeah. She's not going nowhere.

No, she's, she's been brought in by her, what was the, Nigerian? Yeah. In-laws. That was funny. I could tell that they hate her. But very sweet couple. But it was just an overall really fun show. Had a great time, man.

Had a great time. Toronto was a lot of fun, man. You went out after the show to get food. I went back to apartment 200 to see if I could relive the feeling from last trip. You had to go stamp your flag again. Listen, man. Put your flag now.

I didn't quite do it the way Julian impeded it. They went like three or four times last time we were here. I only went once. It was a great crowd, but I lasted, I don't know, maybe 30 minutes. It was almost closing time anyways. Yeah. I was going to meet you there, but I had to eat, man. I went to eat.

I was fucking hungry. Yeah. I was on stage thinking about what I was going to eat. That's all I didn't eat since like 1230. They got vegan poutine. Yeah. What is it? Vegan cheese and gravy.

But gravy has. There's vegan gravy. What is the gravy? What is vegan gravy? Yeah, but there's not vegan, baby. There's meat in gravy. Gravy isn't vegan? No.

Even the ones that don't have meat. It's vegetarian. It's not vegan. What is in gravy? How do you cook? Butter. It's vegan butter. Okay.

I thought there was some, some type of meat. No. But you can put, no, you can put gravy on meat. No, you could put, so gravy is usually made with the drippings that you cook for meat, but obviously vegans wouldn't use. that's grease and shit too though you don't want that well how was the vegan poutine your sister said that to me and I thought it was a joke yeah stop in the end on the poo poo he's been saying that he's called it poonteen like he make it he's horny horny

the horny Irishman sitting over here I got no punteen out there which was unfortunate you making no vegan pootteen no human punteen no animal punteen nothing whatsoever I had two glass visible two glasses of wine and apartment 200 is as as as freaky as I got Drinking wine and apartment 200 is hilarious. That's sick. They brought me a whole bottle like in the thing. I was like, I mean, does anyone want any? You had a section at Department 200?

I didn't ask for one. They brought me out there. He had a bed at Apartment 200. Wait, did you guys know? It was more of a booth. You know what? It was a section. Okay?

And I felt good about it. I may have stood up at one point. You gave a toast? Yeah, oh yeah. Definitely dug my sneakers into that couch. Okay, that's what's up. Did you guys know they have a Tim Horton's at JFK? No, I didn't know that.

I was gone. I landed there. I was gone for a night this week and I came back and I saw Tim Hortons as I was leaving I was like that doesn't feel right You did another night in New York Because it's not a get out of here Put a Dunkin' Donuts there

There's like a true American There's Tim Horton I hate when you go over to the airport And your flight is leaving from the gate That's like there's nothing near your gate That usually what happens to me for some reason I'm like so there's no Hudson News No Dunkin' Donuts

No nothing next to this gate Nope Or the one at JFK Well this is really a local New York Episode so far I hate that terminal at JFK where the only thing that's open in the morning

is Shake Shack Oh God You want me to start with indigestion You want me to shit on this flight The breakfasts option The only thing open is Shake Shack At 6 o'clock in the morning You stop there every time

It's either that Or the Starbucks line That's around the corner Yeah It's like all right I'll get some cheese fries At 6 a.m. Get on a flight to L.A.

There's another restaurant No, it's in LaGuardia That's really nice I forgot the name of it But every time I go there I try to stop there If I have enough time That's LaGuarda.

Liguardia did it a great job That renovation is really nice. It looks like. LaGuardia used to be like one of the worst airports in the country. Now it's like one of my favorites. Not to make this a Trump thing whatsoever, but do you remember like his first policy when he started running in whatever, 2015? He was going to change LaGuardia.

That was like his first policy. It was that bad. He was the worst, it's the worst airport. LaGuardia, it was terrible. But now they did a great, even like getting an Uber from LaGuardia is a lot easier now. Oh, I took that Uber shuttle for the first time. How was it? The, I, the cheapest to and from I've ever done.

So the Uber shuttle, it's not just New York or it might be. It'll stay local. Fuck it. It's, uh, they have pickup points. So it's like, um, either Port Authority or Penn Station. I went to the Penn Station one makes you reserve a time, $8. That's all you get to the airport. To the airport.

So I, traffic light. You go from, I got to the airport in my flight was at like 11. So I was, I got there in like 20 minutes. And there's no stops. It's like everyone's here and there was me, two other girls, this big ass Mercedes, like, you know, the sprinter, right to the airport, drive me off right outside the gate.

It was perfect. I was going to do that on the, eight, eight dollars. I was going to do that to Toronto on, I'm sorry, everyone in Toronto. I keep putting the extra tea. Toronto. I was going to do that, but I had two merch bags with me and I was sad. I couldn't try that out because I think that's the greatest deal. I'm sure it's going to be in other cities.

Ooh, I love it. Absolutely. This is just like the test phase. to see how it does one of the worst traffic cities in the world. But Toronto's traffic, though. Toronto has some crazy traffic.

It's bare traffic for sure. That shit. At 1 o'clock? I'm like, where's everybody going? At 1 p.m. Where's everybody going right now? On a weekday. On a weekday.

Didn't understand why the traffic was like that, but it was told that Toronto definitely has some of the worst traffic. Last year, it sucked. The ride to the venue was like an hour and a half. It's crazy. Yeah. Well, we shout to our guys

that set us up with a sprinter. We get, you know, finally when we get a sprinter for free in a city, it's when the venue is literally across the street. Like, I was hype. Shout to my man, Karim, his cousin was the one that owned the sprinter. Yeah. I was hype. I text them all, like, she locked us in, free sprinter, like trying to stunt.

Like, I was like, you said, man, shit is across the street. The venue is five minutes away. I said, cool, I walk over. I'll see you there. Got a sprinter to drive five minutes. That's what's up. Yeah, and then I got in there. They were playing A-Con.

I was in my mood. I forgot what they was playing when I was in, but it was cold as fuck. It was definitely brick in there. I don't understand. Yo, even the hotel room was like the heat wasn't working. It wasn't working. It wasn't working. P.J., he wasn't working either, right?

I had it on 83, and I swear I woke up and the bed was cold. And it was the W, right? Yeah. Like, it's the W. It was really nice, but I don't understand what that heat was doing. I don't know if people in Toronto don't turn on heat until Halloween, but None of y'all complained.

That's my favorite thing to do is complain. I didn't complain anybody. What's you going to complain is, hey. Just put a hoodie on. I had it all the way on 83, and it felt like it was maybe 69. That means the maintenance man needed to come and do what he needed to do. But if everybody's wasn't work, it wasn't just my room. That's like a building. The hotel is not, that doesn't have any heat right now. As soon as Pete's told me that, I was like, okay, so it's not just my room. They also had a champagne vending machine, which I had never seen in my entire life.

All Mo-A. Yeah. At the W? How much for a bottle? I didn't even look. They were the mini ones, right? Was it the mini one? Yeah.

It was like Denzel and movie Flight. He can't have that. For the shuttle across the street. Call time. I just fall out of the room with a bloody forehead. Go downstairs. The whole moat vending machine is empty. He went crazy last night.

I'm drunk right now. Underrated movie. I love flight. God. I just think it's hilarious they actually have it available on planes. Yeah, me too. Who's watching flight on a flight? I would.

I did one time. I would never want to look over at the person next to me and they watch a plane inverted. Yeah, be thankful. How many times do you think you've had a pilot that may have been either hungover or drunk? Or had cocaine in their system. Probably. Every time? One out of three flights.

Yeah, I think so. You see them when they come back from when they go to the restaurants and the airport, they walk back. You got to look at them like, yeah, you just had a shot. And I have a home girl that's a flight attendant. And she tells me the stories. Yeah. Those flight attendants and pilots get freaky in Cleveland. Yeah.

And then move on to the next city. They're a crew for real. Yeah. It's a nasty, horny crew up in those skies. Mm-hmm. Well, anyways, again, can't say enough about the Toronto show. Thank you to everyone that came out. Atlanta, we will be there November 22nd.

Yes, sir. Tickets available now. Excited for Atlanta? Of course. Yeah, man. Of course. I wish we could have stayed in Toronto a little longer, but, you know, had to go be a family, ma'am.

Most uneventful Toronto trip. I felt like I did the city of disservice. I finally went to the museum in Toronto. The ROM, it was like literally three blocks from my hotel. Yeah. I went there. I was so high. I didn't remember what the fuck I saw.

And I got to start taking... Did you go alone? Yeah. Going high to a museum alone. Yeah. I woke up, I got a latte. I sound like a housewife. I woke up, got a latte.

Open a bottle of Chardonnay. Yeah. I smoked on the walk there and I was just walking around looking and I was like, oh, then I met my boy for lunch at like 2 o'clock. So I was there for like 40 minutes. But I don't remember what I saw.

It didn't take a single picture of anything. My friend was like, so you went to the museum and didn't take a picture of nothing. I was like, no. Yeah. Just high, man. Just high looking around. I know people was like, who the fuck is this dude?

Just high. Did you talk to anyone? The person that worked there? You had a private tour while you were high? No, I was just walking around looking at shit. I was like, okay. This is pretty cool. The building is over now. Okay. Okay. Just look at you.

Okay. See what this artist was doing. I am. Yeah. The pod crew was kind of split this past week. I feel like we were technically with OVO, I guess you could say. I think Snowday is part of the crew, sort of. And Julian was with Dreamville. I returned back to my roots. He was with the Dreamers?

Yeah. I went all the way down to Raleigh. Oh, man. Had to go to North Carolina, right? Back to the scene of the crime. You had to go with an energy. I'll tell you what, man. He went to Mecca. The energy getting up.

Riley is the mecca of dream. The energy getting off that flight was not as fun. The genesis right there. The energy getting off that flight was not as fun as it was the first time when I went down there for a dream. Did you go to the festival grounds? Did you go to the festival grounds? I stayed clear of Dorothy Hill Park wherever the shit is. All right.

No. He definitely went. Like the same way, Julian, you and I went to the JFK. scene when we were in Dallas. I know you went to the scene of the crime. Just to see what it looked like. Put some flowers where the stage was. That's their grassy knoll.

Oh, man. No, Waino was on the grassy no. No, it was fun. It was a good time. But there was like... Ma, stop laughing. It felt different. Because Julian would go to the exact location.

I didn't go there for shit. I just laid his sword down. That a silent prayer to himself. Did you see any of the Dreamville guys? Yeah, so Jungle. I just went to rally. You really thought I just went to rally. I'm asking.

I'm getting information. I don't know anyone down there. No, I, yeah, Jungle, the amazing group, check out their music. If you're not familiar, they're incredible. They're doing a huge, they did a long U.S. tour. Okay. And Baz was their opener for their tour. They have a great relation with Bos.

They have three records together. He was the first featured artist on their one. one of their albums. Like he's just, they have a really cool relationship. Boss is probably the only guy from Dreamville that's still fucks me. None of those dudes over there fucking.

And even that's shaky for real. And even bars might, it might be shaky with Bob's like, it might be on site when Bob see me. He might what I went. So anyway, went to the show. It was at a,

it was at an amphitheater. It was very nice venue. Ebe was there. A few of the guys were there too because some of them, you know, are in town. They're recording,

whatever. And then we went out to a hookas spot, smoked for like, you know, till 3 a.m. And then went home. Got a flight few hours later. What was the conversation about?

I cannot see. This is the thing. When you have conversations with your friends and you don't repeat what they were, especially to public people, not saying at all what we spoke about in the hookah lounge, but it was a very good productive conversation. Okay. I'm happy I went. It was no like fuck this.

We fuck the fuck. We hate that. It's none of that. It was none of that. But it was really, really the one thing that we talked about that was cool. I continued the conversation that we had here on the pot about. I was talking to Eve and I was like,

hey, like, you know, Coles, I've noticing he also, you know, was putting out records on his own terms, like not on the DSP route. And we had a really cool conversation about, like, their strategy behind that and comparing it's like the other guys that are, you know, doing so as well. But it was cool. Like, it's just nice to hear where they're at. Can you get permission from them to have that combo? Because I'm very interested.

I don't care about the beef, none of that. I care about their strategy of why everyone out of the big three is putting out music not on DSB. Yeah. So if you could send that text to be like, hey, are you cool if we have that combo? hopefully we can have it at the end of this week. Because I'm very curious what Eve and them have to say about that. No gossipy shit.

That's information shit. Yeah. No Kendrick. We'll get to that. I said no Kendrick. That's his favorite thing. What? Information.

You didn't see, you didn't even read the end. I didn't finish it. All right. Anyway, uh, great. Definitely, definitely Dreamville. I'm reading it under the middle of it.

It was a great night. Um, and then I came back here, went to the Mets game the next night, watched him get collapsed. That was it. Yeah. All right, so you had a good weekend.

Baby, Dee, what'd you do? That silky, that silky pony is working. Yeah. Thank you. I like to fit today. I see that silky pony, girl. Very nice today. Thank you.

You still, it's still how many days? Yeah, I know. That's a lot of, it's a lot of, it. No, baby, Dee, what day we are? No, we're in the hundreds. We're way in the hundreds. We damn near 200. Yeah.

I ain't going live. We scroll back the shows. I would love to say we recorded when it was 90. I don't know if that adds up That was like a month ago Yeah So now we're at 200 I didn't know there was a 110 days in a month

It's been since May I lost count I'm not counting the more it depresses me Okay Okay Roads putting that rose to work That roll is like if you come to this drill One more time

Maugh I promise you It's number space of opportunity I promise you I'm just all right I'm gonna show you how old you is I promise you My bad But would you do this weekend baby

Clint starts to sigh when it hears that drawer. I can't know. It's like Pavlov's dog. See, I'm beating off when I'm single. You're beating off in a relationship. That's, like, oh. You rubble one out after Apartment 200.

I've made peace with it. Your words, your words can even affect. But 200. It's crazy. I took mental notes. Ew, hell. Clock the batting. Oh, my God.

That is hilarious. But you ask, baby, dude. I have, I, I, I, I, I, I did nothing. Oh, I did outside. I lied. I went to work. I went to bottle wars.

Bottle wars. You know, say you did nothing. Oh, I forgot. I went to Bottle Wars. No, you were outside outside. What's Bottle Wars? So it's a party where the men and women are in competition for who can buy the most bottles and then you get points for every bottle. Does some loser.

So is that a way. So is that a way. I'm sure it's a great event, but the concept of just blowing money on bottles. The bottle girls. So how much Poy- Well, there's physical bottles. You can just count the bottles. That's like legitimately a racket.

And also that's getting men to pay double what they actually do because I know they have to buy their opponent's bottles as well. Why do you think every party I've ever been to, women spend so much money on alcohol. Like, I don't know what kind of girls you be around, but women be buying money. Like women be buying bottles. And I store that in my head and beat off later.

Big bottles with their own money. I've never seen. I'll be in part. Okay, well, you should hang around bitches who are engineers. doctors, lawyers, nurses. In tech. They're working. Yeah.

They were in traffic. Yeah, they're not in the Lower East Side on Wednesday night. Fucking blotto. You're really judging for someone that went to a party named Bottle Wars. Like, Tamara's over there with a notepad and a tally. Like, all right, that's okay.

The red team's got 10 bottles. How do we extort all the patrons that came into it? Wait, so how is there a time limit or what's the deal? No, it's just the whole entire party. They just go. And the more expensive the bottle, the more points you get. But is it like a middle school dance where it's women on one side and men on the other?

No, they're all over. It's just a regular party. But they just keep, they put the tally up on the screen. Oh, so you get like frequent fly bottles. Like, the more bottles I buy the next time I come, maybe I get one on the house. Yeah. No, baby. No?

It's like when you go drunk now, when you leave, come back and do it all over again. There's no rollover minutes. Punch the card like when you get a coffee, like five more of these and you get a free cup. This concept of this to me is a loser shit. That's not it. But I get it. But like just the concept of like, the whole thing to me is just a dick measuring contest. Like I can buy more bottles than you.

Like what's the goal? You just go home, five grand broker. The only winner here is the venue. That's what I'm saying. Like you're not winning. It's like the, it's like what we said about the girl that I had sex while I was pregnant. It's like you got him back. But at what cost?

Like that's dumb. Should have bought a bottle. You should. Y'all do know that people go to parties and just buy bottles anyway, right? So if you're going to buy the bottles anyway, I don't have the incentive. of competition at that time. Thank you. Like, that's going to afford people to buy more. The competition is a cute theme for the party.

It's not, people are not actually going to are like, yo, I'm really trying to win. No one's doing that. People are going to buy the bottles they were going to buy anyway. But when you're down 10 grand, it's not like, it's, it's not a cute theme. It costs a lot of money. Hey, y'all not bottle poppers. And that's okay. I'm not. I'm not. I get mine for free.

His family invented it. So, yeah. I retired a long time ago from that type of lifestyle. I'll do some, do some Fiji. Mm. With the Sparkler? That's like $10 in the club. Hell yeah.

I'll drink more Fiji than any nigga in the club. That's what I know that. I know that more fat. Can no nigga drink more water in the club than me, that's for sure. Okay, so once Bottle Wars, like, wants to evolve and, you know, expand. Like, hookah wars? What's the next thing? Real estate.

Chicken tender platters? Those are great in the club. Buy up the block. Baby D can kick some ass. Who can order the most? samplers. Mocherella sticks, mozzarella wars?

You know how nasty hookah wars would be? I'm about to quit hookah. You smoke hookah? Not a lot, not heavily, but yeah, I smoke it like when I'm in the club, which is once every three months.

Or like I used to go to Sahara. Even that I've cut down. I'm just, I feel the cancer just like growing in my lungs and I'm, yeah, hookah, I could start to feel like my skin drying out with every pull. Like,

Like my face was getting older as I was smoking it. And I was like, this is a bad habit. But I'm full of shit because even though I don't smoke hookah often whatsoever, you know, Justice was in town. And he is the face of hookah. Yeah. So every now and then I'll age myself a bit and do it. But it's a disgusting habit.

How was Justice? How are you doing? Justice great. Yeah. They were here on some LVR in business, but he's in good spirits. Shout out to the LVR and crew. Good to see him. Good spirits.

Some are about to drop another album. He about to buy out of the house. Mm-hmm. He's in great spirits. It's weird. The whole crew is always remodeling their houses. It just never stops. It's adding another wing, every single EP.

Every album. Every track. Well, now that we're done with the weekend recap, can we start with some mess that I found hilarious over the weekend that I think got kind of swept under the rug? Martha Stewart might be the most badass person just ever to exist. She might just be the coolest white woman ever. I guess it's kind of what I'm saying.

So Netflix is putting out this thing called Martha. It's about her life, her story, and how she came to be the person that she is. And in the trailer for the doc, they were talking about how her and her husband eventually split up because he was caught cheating on her. And then this was her comments about your husband cheating and then listen to her response.

Listen to my advice, if you're married and your husband starts to cheat on you, he's a piece of shit. Get out of that marriage. Didn't you have an affair early on? Yeah, but I don't think Andy ever knew about that. Gangster. Period.

Part of the dude was a gang. Not only that, but I guess 10 toes, held it down, too. Well, she's a gangster. I guess she said, too, it was more that was revealed that she had an affair that spanned like over 30 years. That's a marriage. And her husband, her husband didn't know until the trailer for this dot came out. I mean, she didn't, she was keeping clean.

She's like, she's crazy in the best way. She kept it clean. It wasn't messy. The husband never found out. Nobody knew. She cheat right. That's all. Okay, but like whatever their stipulations were with their marriage,

isn't there like clauses if you cheat, like you don't get half of the money or whatever? I'm curious what their divorce was like. If he lost more because of the infidelities that he was caught with. Meanwhile, she's across the table, and the mediator doesn't even know she's been fucking someone for 30 years. I mean, they didn't know. Like, we need to go back and look at this divorce paperwork.

No, they didn't know. Well, I do want to clarify. Where does she come out and say that it was for 30 years? Because I'm looking for that. I'm not finding that. Not with the same person over 30 years, but she was having, you know, extra marital affairs. Over the course of their 30 years. Over the course of their 30 years.

They were married for 29 years. Okay. Okay. That's what to make it clear. I don't want to make it to say she had a side nigger for 30 years. That's crazy. No, it was probably multiple. You think it was Snoop?

I wouldn't be surprised if they, because the same way in which, you know, like Chelsea handler went on like her little, like, thing with 50 cents. and like, I feel like women like that always go for the rap guy. You know what I mean? I always thought that was a troll until I found out it was real and I was like kind of weirded out. The way in which Bill Maher only fucks like Black Hookers? Kaleas and Bill Murray. Yeah, like there's a weird synchronization between like...

Police ain't give Bill Murray those people. Bill Maher and Superhead. That was crazy. I mean, to me that was my like goal couple. That was a power couple to me. I agree. Two award-winning authors. But let's not put that on

Snoop Dog's jacket because he's been happily and faithfully married for her. He got cold. Never mind. See, why you bringing up Black men's past? That's what white men do.

He got caught fucking Selena Powell. I'm sure he fucked Martha Stewart. You fuck Felina Powell. Nice. Cool. Nice. I don't know. I'm just good.

He'd be lying. So my bad snoop line. But before we recorded, I was having this conversation with Demaris. What do you think like like, okay, your husband gets caught. Yes, he's a bad guy, but you're no better. But is there a difference if you never get caught?

Like she kept the marriage intact, 29 years. They did the whole thing. Do we judge her differently? Is it worse? Is it better? What do you guys think? The person that cheats but never gets caught? I mean, I think that's respectful in a way.

Because you're cheating. That's fucked up. But I think you respect your spouse enough for nobody to know about it. It never got out. So, I mean, yeah, it's some type of respect there when your spouse has no idea. Okay, but also in the same sentence, she's saying, if your husband cheats on you, he's a piece of shit and you need to leave. That's not what she said. You're not holding yourself to the exact same standard.

She said if your husband gets caught cheating, you need to leave. See, this is the, wow. That's what I'm just, I'm not agreeing with her. Women going to play Samantha's when they come to clean. I'm just clarifying what Martha said. That's what she said. Don't miss. Let's talk about what she said.

Let's go further. Let's dig deeper. That's also not what she said. Play it. Here's the quote. Young women, listen to my advice. If you're married and your husband starts to cheat on you, he's a piece of shit. Get out of that marriage.

Go play what we just played. That's a quote. Play what we just played. I think the New York Post would misquote someone? Play what we just play. Ever. All right. Here we go again.

Are they? Young women, listen to my advice. If you're married and your husband starts to cheat on you, so he's a piece of shit. My bad. Get out of that. Mary. Nice. My bad.

That was my bad. That was close to saying I apologize. My bad was almost there. Women are going to say my bad. They're going to never say I'm sorry or I apologize. I'll take him my bad. I'm not sorry for what I said because I genuinely believe that that's what she said. But it is my bad.

I was wrong. So do you believe what you said then? Because your initial one, what was the... Oh, that if he got caught. No, I was just differentiating between the two. I don't think anybody should cheat. Okay. We didn't see the rest of where that's going.

I'll give the woman back. Ben for the doubt. Maybe she's going on to say she started cheating when she found out her husband was cheating. And she's telling young women, you should just leave. Yeah. When he cheats. Don't cheat back and try to make it work. Just leave. Maybe. I just, I mean, I like Martha Stewart. But I was going to say, I don't, I don't, I don't know. The problem is they were married for nearly 30 years and her husband cheated on her with her form. Oh, wow, it's pretty bad. Her husband cheated on her with her former assistant. Oh yeah, you got to cheat back.

But I feel like Martha was, Martha was doing her bidding, because even in the clip, she said she started the marriage cheating. So she was like, she got out the gate with it. He was playing catch up, but he cheated with the wrong one. Maybe they shouldn't have divorced. They're soulmates. They're perfect for each other. They both do.

They're both doing crazy shit. They could have made it work. I feel like everybody is a cheater, though, in some capacity. It depends on what you think cheating is. It's him being outraged. He's, I'm sorry. He's outraged. because he found out when that clip dropped,

he never knew she was cheating. He found out when that clip dropped. And he's outraged that she was cheating on him, like outraged, even though he was cheating and got caught cheating. Okay, but you don't know he could be outraged again by that divorce because she said it happened because he was cheating. And if you were also doing the exact same thing, like, yeah, I would be upset that we went through a divorce

because I was cheating and you said I was the problem. Well, wait, I'd be outraged if you were doing the same things that you were mad at me about that need to break his marriage up. But wait, she didn't catch him cheating. Well, he was the one that got caught. That's how they came to split. How did he get caught? She didn't. I don't know the ins and ends of that. But he just didn't put it on the calendar.

I was going to say, once you're messing, once you're messing with like the business of Martha too, like that's just muddies the waters because she's so intertwined with their personal lives. But they got married. I'm looking at it now. After Andrew, Martha's former

husband, ex-husband, and Martha split, he ended up marrying Robin, the woman that he was cheating on her with. Also, I mean, she chose a marriage over keeping her job. They met in 2005, got married in 2010, had a child in 2015, and I guess they're still together. That assistant is kind of wild, though. Like, I'm not taking anything off him. He was married. He shouldn't cheated. But what type of assistant is going to go fuck your boss's husband?

Well, she's seen that she didn't have time, too. There was no time. time on a calendar for her to fuck her husband so somebody had to do it. Okay. So she's stuck up. And she like kind of robbed the cradle. It's just in the workload. Wait, wait, scroll up. He's 80. He was born in 1980. Robin is born in 82. So on paper, they're more. The husband, Andrew. Martha Stewart's husband is one year older than me. Yes. So Martha's 83. So she was, you know. I don't wait. We get this. This has to be wrong. This has to be. It's no way this is right. Wait. Andrew Stewart, born in 1980.

Marley was born in what, like the 20s? That dude was not born in 1980. She invented cheats. No, no way. That's the wrong Andrew Stewart. Wait, hold on. Their kid must have been born in 1980. All right, my bad.

Apologies. I had the wrong article. Well, it wasn't the wrong article. They had a typo. Whatever, it doesn't matter. He did end up marrying her old assistant. but then that she was 21 years younger than Andrew and then they eventually divorced

and he's remarried to a woman Shaila Nelson Stewart and they have five kids Andrew's doing all right did she pay him? Does she have to pay him when they got divorced? I would imagine Oh not if he got caught cheating. That's why I was saying we need to go back and revisit that divorce because if both people were cheating

that cancels it out and now I need half your money No. He got to, yo, appeal that. Bring that to trial and get half of her. They got divorced in the 1990. It says the details about their settlement are not available publicly. Yeah, Martha's too gangster for that. Yeah, he took a quiet bag.

I know what that mean. I mean, if she was, if she was even smart, she could have put all her assets with him with a divorce so then the federal government couldn't seize it. Hold that for a second. Fuck my assistant. I get out, you know, shoot it back to me. I'll put everything in her mother's name.

Martha Stewart's mother's name. I'm just going to go out like on a limb and think that Martha Stewart's mother's probably not alive, but. Unless she was born in 1980. But she might have been when, because Martha would do you at what, like 20 years ago? Nah. Nah. Just came home. She fresh out.

No, we were screaming three her a couple years ago. Three Martha. For sure. We need new sheep. I think Snoop picked her up. 2004, damn. 20 years ago. Oh my god.

Holy shit. When did she get out? Wow. But she was released in 2005. Yeah. She did five months. Oh my God. I did not know that was 20. Yeah.

My bad. Yeah. I saw that they're speaking of jail. Yeah, 20 years to the day, actually. That's crazy. It's her anniversary. Three, three her. Five year bid.

She's going to make some cup of noodles just to relive the feeling. Make a jack mac. Is that out, Julian? When does it come out? This comes out October 30th on Netflix. It looks really good, though. Did you guys watch the Brad Pitt and George Clooney Wolf movie on Apple TV?

No, I really want to, though. Just came out. I highly recommend it. It's really good. Brad Pitt and... George Clooney. Word? I didn't even hear about this. Yeah. I didn't see any ads for it. I just opened Apple TV and it was there. Apple TV is bad at promoting stuff.

Promoted. Yeah, that's where Apple does fail. Peacock and Apple are terrible. morning stuff and they have amazing shows. What is it about? I won't spoil anything, but the synopsis is there are two guys that clean up crime scenes. Oh, okay.

That's cool. But like illegally. Yeah. Like you call them when you accidentally murdered somebody and they come in and make sure shit is good, get rid of everything. Get away with the crime, yeah. Yeah, so they both have that occupation. Mm-hmm. And a woman similar to Martha Stewart,

very powerful older white woman, fucking around with a little young 25 year old trying to get a rocks off cheating he ends up possibly dead and that's like within the first five minutes so I'm not giving away much but Oh Richard Kind is in it I love it No it's a great movie highly recommend it

Also while we're on Felons I saw a trailer for the Shine documentary on Hulu today which don't smirk I think is going to be a great doc I think shine has a very interesting story and I think it's worthy of a documentary. He has an interesting story.

To go from rapper to shooting at someone with Puff, to going to jail for 10 years, to get deported, to becoming a diplomat. I think this might be one of the better rapper documentaries. Yeah.

The story is insane. DJ Cald's executive producer on the project. Okay, no. I wonder how much he'll get into the Puff situation. Because he was somebody that did the honorable thing by not snitching,

and saying Puff was actually the one that shot everyone. But I'm curious how far now that, you know, he did his time. He can discuss it. I don't think he will, though. I think that's a part of his. I mean, then again, he may in this documentary. He may be saving it for the documentary. But I think that's a part of his life where he, you know, has decided to leave that in the past.

But obviously, it's an interesting story, seeing the lives that Sean has lived before rap and after rap. So, yeah, I'm definitely, I definitely want to watch this because. If you know the story of Sean and where he's from and his upbringing and things like that, hopefully this documentary dives into a lot of that. So I'm definitely going to check that. Yeah. Anyone watching anything else? It's been a weird few months.

I feel like it's got to watch Love is Blind. I got to watch somebody because they get married this week. I'm telling you, like they're doing like two episodes every Wednesday now. It's kind of like how they do the release now. Okay. I'm two behind, I think. But it's so much better than the UK one. Yeah.

Which city other end now? They're in DC. Okay. And it's some weird. Does everyone work for the government? Not many of them, no. Actually, they did a good job. Most people on that show never have jobs.

They're all like influencers or real estate. There's some of that. But they don't influence anything. They're getting on that show. Please watch it. I'll watch because I enjoyed the clay season. Should we all watch and then have Clay back on? Well, that's why I want to bring it up.

Clay is going to be back in New York soon. And he wants, he was said, like, if you guys want it back, come on. I was like, I would love to have you be like our, correspondent for all things love is blind. It's an open door policy for Clay in this podcast. Why he looks so upset to Maris? I'm not upset at all. No, Clay can't be a piece of shit if Martha Stewart isn't.

Facts. Over the weekend as well, outside of movie trailers, I did see one of the... I can't tell if it's the worst or best campaign ad I've seen in presidential history. This was the worst campaign ad you've seen in presidential. Oh, please.

Here we go. Well, they'll talk about it and then we'll play it because if you're listening, you should know what we're talking about. So for those that don't know on YouTube, there's this balloon game. What's the official name of it? Pop a balloon. Pop a balloon. Essentially, a bunch of women will be standing in line and they have a balloon

and a guy will come up and the host will ask him questions. And with each question, the woman could pop the balloon to say that she no longer wants him. And if there's a woman still standing there with a balloon, they end up going on it. They have to have sex. On YouTube. They used the balloon as a condom. So the Harris team put together somewhat of a sketch relating to voting

and how women will only sleep with you if you're a registered voter voting Democrat. No, it's not saying it. Let's play it and then we'll talk about it. That's what I got for me. Let's play it and we'll talk about it. That's what I took for me. I'm only getting pussy if I vote for her.

It's good to be here. What do you do and how much do you? I work in finance, making six figures. How tall are you? Six, five. Do you have a plan? They can see him. Nah, not my thing.

Hello, ladies. All right. Immediately going into the black Twitter stereotypes too of making six figures and being six five, like out the gate. Like they can't see him in person. Well, you got to give him exact height.

That's what it is. They know he's tall obviously. But if he was six four, do you think there'd be some balloons pop? For sure. Because that doesn't cut it. No. He's also not six five.

Not even close. and check his taxes they didn't pay him a hundred k for this shit see now you're saying this man can't be making six figures in his life that's hate i think he can but i think not as hate everyone in this is an actor i don't think this was actors make six figures i don't what did he say he was an engineer some some shit well he's acting finance but he's acting he's an acting okay so what's your point

that i don't think he works in finance he's an actor How much do you think they paid him for this acting? Oh my God. I know how much do you think? Like, yeah, this would probably like $3,500. All right. I'm going to really sound like, hey, do you guys recognize him from any other films?

That's not. Oh, my God, Roy. Is he an extra on Law & Order? Like, what did he do to you other than like do his job? Nothing. You guys brought it here. I don't know. I think, pardon my white face.

I think this is a little weird as like the only black outreach campaign ad, but. They landed on this. Is it the only black outreach campaign at or is it the only one that hit you because you were the demographic for it. Also, I don't like that you calling it black outreach. That's what I'm saying. Like it just. Who do you think their target audience was for this? Black people are the only people that watch this?

Who? With a straight face. Answer that question. Who do you think this? It doesn't matter what I think. I'm talking about what it is. Okay. Not only black people don't watch those shows.

Actually, I would be willing to bet more white people watch them shows than black people quiet. business camp. To DeMaris's point, because those shows reinforce the stereotypes that white people always think about black people, they check in those little YouTube pages like, yep, they're still this, and then going on about their day. So you think most of the views on those balloon shows are strategic racism? They're racist. I don't think it's racist. They're going there to check to see whether or not it's intended to be. No, whether or not it's intended to be. Oh, they're still popping balloons. Thank God I'm racist. I like this ad. It was creative. I don't mind. You did this job. Why do you like this ad?

I'm not even saying like I like it because like the things I like about I have nothing to do with Kamala and Tim Walts. I think I think it's interesting to like this is a proper use of leaning into like the cultural zeitgeist. And the younger demographic. And the younger demographic. This is current. This is an online thing. Like this is a digital show that lives on YouTube. They're drawing from it's like an S&L skit. Like they're drawing from something that's cultural, something that's.

topical in applying it to their campaign. I'm not saying this is like, damn, they did the balloon game. Black people got to go out there and smash the vote button. I'm not saying that. I'm just saying like it's like someone on their team is at least in it enough to understand that this is a thing that's currently happening and it matters rather than like them wheeling out like this shit from like, you know, like it's like if Kamala were to tweet like Brad Summer this month.

It's like you missed the moment. Yeah. Okay. Agreed. And of course, this isn't the first time that they've, tried to do culturally relevant things in campaigns. That's why I started saying, I'm not sure if this is the worst or best ad. I'm just thinking out of

all the things that we could be talking about with our campaign ads and policies, this is what you land. No, but see, this is the thing, and that's, they have those ads, but y'all aren't going to talk about those ads. That's why they make ads like these ones. I get the effectiveness. I've seen a million

Kamala ads, sorry, and the same thing with Trump, but we don't talk about the ones where they're talking about policy and all of that stuff. That's not what we talk about, especially on this podcast. That's not the ones that go viral. The ones that go viral are what we make go viral. It's the same thing when we say there's no good music out.

There's plenty of good music out. But we only talk about the fucked up shit and the bad shit. Well, I think there's good music. But, okay, since you've seen a million campaign ads, can you, we don't have to make it a Democrat thing. Can you actively tell me the three major policies of her and Donald Trump? Since there's a million ads explaining to me their policies? No, because I don't pay attention to them.

Okay. I'm not the person to talk about that, though. I'm aware that I'm not the person to talk to about that. That's fair. But because the one I'm going to pay attention to is that one. I don't think there's, I mean, you know, Trump working on White Castle isn't any better. McDonald's. But that that's the thing that I wanted to bring up the Trump went to McDonald's.

He worked the grill. He dipped some fries into the oil. Because to Trump's, I like this. This is a funny. It's not only is it like a get back. No, this is his bag. It's not only to get back at Kamala, but it's good PR. He wants to be.

He's going to lean it to, oh, you think I'm a. This is petty. If he would have passed a cat out of that drive-thru window, that would have made it a whole not. Cill to vote. Seal it. It's over. He said to a car cats and dogs in McDonald's. They're eating the cats in McDonald's. He said to a car

drove driving by, I've now worked 15 more minutes in Kamala. That's funny. He is funny. You, listen, I get it. Politics aside, I don't see how people don't like Donald Trump. Politics aside. Like, how do you not like... Canadian? Imagine this was the guy that you worked

for at McDonald's. Imagine that was... I would never want for him. And then nobody is taking that job serious. He would probably fire everyone and close the location and then file for bankruptcy. And then... But not if he was... Then get rewarded with all the profits so everyone else loses a job.

Donald Trump. I'm talking about that that was just his... Oh, just that his personality. Yeah. That would be... He is objectively funny. He's hilarious. Yeah. But this ad was this... Not ad. This ad...

I just don't want a funny president. Near do I. Why not? Like, it was funny. when it wasn't serious. Now he's hilarious, but it's... Because ain't shit funny for real. Nothing is funny.

Have you seen the world? Nothing is funny. That's why it's funny. What these things is getting rich off of us? Well, that's a fact. What was creepier, though? Him trying to put fries together or J.D. Vance at that... Was it a donut shop?

Oh, my God. That was so awkward. Jaddy fans... That was one of the creepiest... What do you walk in and said, I saw you work here? She's like, yeah. Like, well...

How long have you worked here? Yeah. Like, yo, what do you want? Are you ordering? And he's like, yeah, just give me, you know, you know,

give me the stuff. The regular. The stuff. That was the creepiest moment I've seen any candidate do. Huh? Yeah. Do you live here?

How far? The elections were November 5th? Yeah. Oh, that is very soon. It's very soon. How are you feeling? Nervous? Three Tuesdays from that.

Two Tuesdays? Scared? Nervous? Yeah. A bit. I mean, I'm petrified of both the results. So that would make me overall scared no matter what.

But, you know. Are you guys doing early voting? Are you going to go to the polls? I'm going to go to the polls. Touch the people. You know, get the vibes. Touch the people. You're going to jail.

That's what you're going. You don't like just the atmosphere of voting in person? I mean, where I vote at uptown is not really, it's usually empty by the time I get there. It's at a school. Yeah, everything is empty. It's like not a lot of people there. So it's like kind of, it's a quick experience. It's not nothing crazy.

Yeah, it's either school or basement of a church. It's always a weird place that you would send a bunch of grown-ups to. Yeah. That I've felt was odd. But, I mean, we got, didn't we used to get the day off? For election day? For election day, yeah. Do they still do that with kids?

I think so. Okay. Maybe I will just vote from home. There'll be too many kids in the street. How do you vote from home? The mail and the ones that, to steal the election. Here we go. We get them in the mail.

I'm in a photo copy mine a hundred times. It might be too late. Death certificates that I could reverse to become other people. Yeah, it's too late for mail-in votes, I think. Yeah, I think it is. So it's never too late. Also, over the weekend, Tribe Call Quest was inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. Congratulations.

Legendary. Absolutely loved it. You know, we can't say enough about Tribe Call Quest. And now they've changed every single generation after them. Everyone we love is influenced by them. I think you can make a very strong, case of them being the greatest rap group that's ever existed. For sure.

It was great to see Chappelle induct them as well. And, you know, anytime Q-Tip speaks, I listen. So it was a really nice, nice moment. Shout out to one of the, that was one of the first albums I bought was Midnight Marauders. Yeah. Drop Club Quest. Yeah. Press and peace to Fife, you know, would have been great for him to see that.

But I'm glad they're keeping his name alive. So shout out to Tribe. And thank you to Rock and Roll Hall of Fame for getting it. finally right again. Yeah. We got what, Hove last year? Or is that two years ago?

Maybe two years now. Maybe. How do you guys feel about it being the rock and roll hall of fame and like, should there just be a hip-hop hall of fame? Yes. I mean, I think so. I think we definitely need our own Hall of Fame for our culture. I mean, but rock and roll is our culture too, so.

And I mean, it's not just obviously rock and roll that gets inducted and it's not just hip-hop. That's why I guess I've always found a little confusing why. Like earlier when they stopped just inducting rock and roll artists, like maybe change the name. Mm-hmm. Like music Hall of Fame, artist Hall of Fame. Mm-hmm. But I get it. Rock and roll fans are stubborn and would throw a fucking fit.

Didn't they throw a fit when Jay got inducted? Yeah, they tried to, but I mean, like, for what you're saying. Can you not understand it? Like, this is not. But then there's also, has country artists. Like, there's been other genres that have been inducted, but I don't know. I'm not here to complain, happy that a tribe got their flowers. Did you guys, you mentioned Jay, did you see that the NFL is extending their contract with him for the Super Bowl?

I don't think there were any terms to it. They just got ahead of it and said, yes, we're like going to negotiate something because we like what's happening. Of course they do. Well, I mean, so far he's gotten it right as far as viewers. Like, they're increasing their viewers with halftime shows. It's not like it's tanking. It's just a business move. Who even cares about the artist if Jay is delivering.

Like, that's all the NFL is going to look at is numbers. I mean, they still have end racism in the end zone. Yeah. So to remind us all. Cap and Nick still doesn't have a call. Corporations are so full of she has. End that NDA with CAP instead of putting end racism. Yeah, I want to know how much they gave Kaepenik.

I want to know how much they gave him. I haven't seen him since. Where are you at? That was part of the... He had to disappear. There's a reason why. Take this and leave. Like, we don't want to see you around here again.

Like, leave everything? Yeah. Like, I said, don't have no Instagram account. Delete everything. Anything to get your, your voice out there, delete it. But, I mean, Cap, even before then, like, a lot of the pushback he got after the kneeling incident and then him not getting a job was that he was too quiet. And then they were like, oh, he doesn't really do anything for the community,

which came out to be so false. He just doesn't promote it. Like, he was investing all his money into that type of stuff. He just didn't tweet it. So everyone's like, oh, he's too quiet. So I'm sure Cap is still very much active in his goal and mission. Oh, yeah. And now he's just playing with some house money.

Yeah. So, you know, I get it. But I see why Hove is still going to be there. And I'm excited. I don't think he's missed so far since he's been there. I've loved every performance. They've booked in the right artists. The show was a great.

And this is a business. So obviously the NFL wants to continue good business. So it said the first partnership was, was five years for 25 million. We, again, do not know what the next one is, but do you think it'll be another five years or how long do you think they'll extend it for? What was that $25 million went to Jay's pockets

or went to the halftime? I'm pretty sure he's pockets. They probably paid him for that, yeah. That's probably what he was paid just to... I'm... Yo, Hove getting $25 million to be like, yo, Rihanna. Love that.

Yeah, is that... Which included Rock Nation's... Yeah, look at it. This is... I mean, yeah, that's really what it was. 25 million, which included Rock Nation's input on the Super Bowl show and helping out with the League's Social Justice program to inspire change, which is given out $375 million in grants.

So, yeah, they were paying for input, basically paying for his leverage to his relationship. Yeah, and I'm sure that $25 million went to Rock Nation as a company for his staff to also be able to hire people just for that program. I mean, I'm sure Jay didn't get 25 liquid in his pocket for picking J-Lo. No, I probably got like six, seven, Oh, he definitely held on some of it. Yeah.

He got more than that. I was going to say, I think you is. Where are you guys on the Rock Nation conspiracy that the moment this extension happened, we all of a sudden got a Kendrick Lamar interview out of nowhere to even discuss not like us that will be played at Super Bowl. Do you feel like Rock Nation should crumble? Anybody tied to the release of this? When Rock Nation is around, it's all tied together.

Anybody tie that shit together, but Rory Mall. And Torrey's dad. Did you guys read this article? Can you guys pronounce the name of the magazine? Yeah, Harper's Bazaar. I'm stupid. What would you call it? Yeah, what would you say?

Big harp. I wasn't sure if there was like another way to say Bazaar. Like if that was a foreign word. How would you have said that word had I not. I would have said Harper's Bazaar and I thought I would have been wrong. He would have sounded like he was from Boston. Hap is bizarre. Hap is bizarre.

Happ is bizarre. I didn't know that's how you spelled Bazaar. I'm about halfway through this. I haven't finished it, but from what I read, it seems interesting. I like this era of having another artist or someone that they're familiar with lead the Q&A. You like that? I do. It's not the first time it's been done, but it's cool.

I will start by saying I like that as well. And I like that Siza and Kendrick have a relationship where they can discuss some of the stuff that they talked about, get deep. They're both spiritual people. I enjoyed the combo for what it was. I just don't know if this was the time to do this Siza safe interview with everything that's going on the way fans demand certain interviews at times like this. Because Siza being his friend, I thought, asked incredible questions, which we'll get to because I want to ask them all the exact same questions. I think she's a great interviewer. But once they got into some of the current stuff, of the.

what's happening with the beef, they're friends. There's not going to be any pushback or explanation on anything. And I think there was a lot of fans that were at the edge of their seats waiting for Kendrick Lamar to address everything that's happened in the past six months. Like, Cizor, rightfully so, was not scared, but like, yo, should I even, do you even want to go here? And they had a quick, not like us conversation, which was kind of just speaking in circles, to be quite honest to me. This was the only question where I was like, all right, man, I didn't need this. Everything before that I thought was great. And I loved their back and forth.

But she asked to break down not like us and we don't even like really get to the nitty-gritty of what that song is about. And then it just becomes, yo, it's because I have morals and values. If you identify with that, you identify would not like us. Like, all right, man, you called him a peddle.

Can we get into that? I just had some follow-up questions. I wasn't mad at his first explanation. But since we're bringing this up, can we get into the record for real? She tried. She said, break that down for me

after his initial response. And then he went on to your point, this man has morals, values, he believes in something, he stands on something, he's not pandering, and then kind of on and on

about someone that's not afraid to make mistakes from his experiences and learn, you know. Which is great, but I just don't know if that record is as deep as the explanation

that he is making. I think, Meet the Grams, Euphoria 616, deep records. But the one we're choosing to have that type of response to me was a pretty flat out record of, hey, you are nasty. And this is a great mustard beat. Yeah.

I don't know if it's that deep. But I thought it was a cool interview. Just don't even bring up the Not Like Us part if we're not going to get a real detailed answer about what CIS is asking. To Julian's credit, she did give some pushback. Like, can you break down exactly what that is? And I think after he gave that PC answer,

she was like, all right, I see where this is at. I'm not going to pry. Let's move on. But other than that, I thought it was a phenomenal interview. Love scissors questions. I don't know about phenomenal, but it was good. It's cool to just see two superstars go back and forth on topics like this. It was more like a conversation of two friends that a writer just happened to be sitting in on.

you know, which was cool. I guess they want to call it an interview, but I don't think that it felt like an interview. I think Sisson and Kendrick talk often, and this time a writer from Harper's Bazaar just happened to be sitting next to them, writing everything down or recording. But, you know, Kendrick, I like some of his answers.

For me, him breaking down the record and the man that he is was the most interesting part, only because if I respect it I respect Kendrick as an artist but if you say he's a man with morals and things like that I just

you know again if things are true then so be it if not then you gotta wear it but to have morals to say you're a man of morals but then you know make that allegation

that somebody is a petal and you know as what we know if Kendrick has information that we don't but from what we know that man is not a pedophile. I just look at that a little like, I don't know somebody with morals does that. That's why I just wish they would have left it alone, unless we were getting a full-blown interview about this past year, not just his personal stuff, then I just leave it alone.

Like, I love the personal stuff they talked about. I think it was an extension of some of the questions that I had after Mr. Morrell, like of his journey. And I think Siza got into that bag and kind of extended Mr. Moral to where he's at now. Because Mr. Moral is, what, three years ago? Two. Two? So it was nice to see the,

hear the update of, you know, Kendrick's healing journey and that entire thing. The interesting part was when Siza broke down the way she writes and records and she, from the lens of other artists. I thought that was super interesting. That was interesting.

So she said, you know, she's too honest. Sometimes she wrote a song last summer that was too honest. She said, and she couldn't put it out. She was in there telling on herself And she said she can't stop Because she is bored And she was like, I like to tell

On myself, it's like I have to tell on myself So I'm not bored because otherwise I'm just like what's the point? I thought that was interesting And her saying that she I guess I shouldn't look through it I guess I shouldn't look through my eyes I should look through somebody else's

As a way of writing and recording Her art and her music She pretends to be Frank Ocean or future I thought that was interesting I wasn't expecting, you know, Sizer to say something like that, but that was an interesting angle because sometimes it is kind of tough

if you're a person that is very vulnerable, sometimes you're like, nah, I can't give all of this. Or critical of yourself, like what I thought was so interesting about her writing from other artists' point of view like Frank or Future is she said it was much easier. And I think what,

how I interpreted that was, it's you don't have to acknowledge your faults because now you're protecting, to be somebody else. You can deal with their bullshit because it's not actually yours. Instead of having to face the own critical issues you have with yourself,

especially when you're sitting in the studio. I think she brought up some examples that said she's super selfish. Co-dependent. Co-dependent. She's a people-pleaser. A lot of that stuff is tough to face and then try to fix

because that's a whole other journey. So yeah, let me get on here and I can see how other artists live and how they, you know, put their point of view out there. I'll just write from that. Yeah. Kind of like that. I'll go listen to a future and just pen something that's similar to what he talks about.

It's like that self-awareness combo that we had. It's really interesting to see this from like the artist's writing standpoint. Yeah. When she said, why am I trying to not be human so bad? Because it hurts so damn bad. But that's the job. No matter how many spirits you talk to or anything like that, it just doesn't matter. You have to be here.

You're going to be in the either eventually. It's just not now. So it's like, yeah, like, why am I running from my own vulnerability so much? It's what you and I talk about a lot. Self-awareness can actually cause depression when you start to be super aware of the negative things about yourself. It just makes you hate yourself even more. It's like it's worth even fixing. Let me just go pretend like it's not there and just be somebody else.

And that way, I don't have to suffer from it. Shit, the more that I'm reading, rereading this, I know it was a Kendrick interview, but Sizzah is pretty fucking vulnerable throughout this entire thing. She said to whatever she was responding to, she said, that's what I feel like I suffer from. I'm not a teachable for real. That's my problem because I'm always like in my fear

to do some shit. Like that's to say that just so directly. That is awesome. Cizza, to me, like really spoke out and spoke up about herself. I like when she says she has a low pain tolerance but a high competition tolerant. Yeah.

I like that. And she said, I don't even understand what that means. I got what she. was trying to say that it's not a sensitive bully per se but you're so competitive that you're constantly

trying to keep up with everyone but you can't really deal with what comes with that competition like you may not be built to handle the pain that comes with always having to compete which I thought was brilliant and even Kendrick asked her some great questions

Demaris did you read the part about her mom oh my God I love that part no I don't think I got to that part it's in the beginning So essentially, well, why I asked you to Maris? Oh, I did read that part of it. I did. Well, she said her mother was she, she's her ancestors, you know,

greatest dreams because her mother didn't have the ability to be able to be a bitch and to be able to stand on her shit because she was fighting for like integration of schools and things like that. And always had to monitor herself to make sure she wasn't being too aggressive or being too much of a quote unquote bitch. Like she could never really express herself fully. Yeah. Because her entire life and her generation,

as a black woman, she just had to be quiet. Growing up in the 50s, she said, yeah. So, I mean, again, that's kind of why I like this artist and artist thing. Because as we know, these two are like some of the best writers we've had in our generation. So to have them talk back and forth deeper into their writing, I absolutely love. I want more of this type of combo between great writers. Yeah, I know the conversation that they had was much longer than this, this editorial was.

But, you know, I like the fact that they sat down and agreed to have this, you know, some of it, some of the conversation published so that we can get a glimpse into the type of conversation that they have. I thought it was dope. I thought Kendrick did a really cool job of extending the father time song with Sanfa on Mr. Moral when he talks about his pops. And like, you know, a lot of us had that similar story where your dad raises you to not be weak. Like, don't show emotions. Don't cry. Like, I'm preparing you for a world that does not give a fuck about you. So you need to be a man.

And Kendrick discussing that his pops taught him that and like hard work and his dad was always there for the family, but didn't prepare him to be vulnerable. And his job is vulnerability. Like his dad was raising him to go into the workforce. Like Kendrick would have been great at the factory with the shit that his dad taught him. Work ethic, masculinity, everything. But he's a rapper. His whole entire job and to even grow his catalog is to be more vulnerable. So I thought that was kind of cool.

Like a lot of our parents, even when they're great, raise us for something that isn't really our destiny. Like it's not my destiny to go be the super masculine guy that hides his feelings and does great on Wall Street. Like, no, I got to fucking come on a podcast and talk about my feelings. Yeah. Yeah, because to what kind of say? To grow this, I have to get more vulnerable and know more about myself to talk on this microphone.

Yeah. So I thought that was a really cool, cool point. To be great at your craft, have to be vulnerable. Yeah. So this is, I mean, at first, all I knew is masculinity. I always kept the walls up because of my pops. But the more I delve deeper into my music, the more expressive I had to get with myself, that is the feminine energy right there. So, yeah, the ability to be a man, but to become a better artist and be a better person, you need to also tap into the side where, you know, the feminine energy, so to speak. Which I think that's, I think that,

I don't know if Sizzah had to deal with it, but I've heard a lot of black women, uh, maybe like older millennials and like middle millennial black women talk about that same thing because a lot of them were raised like men as if like this world does not give a fuck about you. I know a lot of my older cousins and my aunts were just like, this world don't care about you. So all the tears, all the softness, all that that you have, you got to lock that shit up. So then you come out and people are dating these women and they're like, why are you so masculine? We were taught the same way that y'all were taught. The world doesn't give a fuck about us.

We can't cry. We can't be soft. We got to make money, make money, make money. So that nobody can tell us what the fuck to do. So. When they say this world, do they just be talking about America? What do you mean? Like, because I feel like there's people that live in other countries that don't have disdain

because they don't live in a capitalistic society like we do. Of course, but that's not our world. So they don't have those stresses and those, you know. Yeah. Those type of things pulling at them. And then there's also places in the world that don't have the luxury of feelings to begin with because it's about survival completely. Like, even though America is completely fucked up in a lot of places.

we do have the privilege of being able to explore feelings to some degree. I mean, of course, there's people that are starving and fighting every day and don't have time to do anything feeling related in America. But overall, compared to the rest of the world, yeah, this is an American thing. Yeah. The chasing of dreams is an American thing. Which is a luxury. Yes. But there's a, yeah, a luxury part with, you still have to abide by.

the how this country was built. There's also like the stigmas and everything that comes with that. You know, it's just, I don't know. I mean, that's a whole lot of time. I mean, there is a universal thing where you shouldn't be too vulnerable publicly. Like, I think that that's just a thing in life. Like, you shouldn't be, you know, like if you're going to work, like, and then you're at your cubicle at your desk crying.

I don't think that that's a healthy thing. I mean, if it's an everyday thing, no, I agree with you. Crying is healthy. But like, if you at your desk and just crying and just crying, front of everybody, it's kind of like, I don't know if that's a good idea. You can do that in the bathroom. You can do that on the way to work and, you know, when you get home. But in front of others, I just think that shows a sign of weakness on whatever part,

like whether it's a mental weakness, whether it's an emotional weakness. But I think that's also the exact opposite because I think it takes more, it takes more strength to cry in front of somebody. I think hiding your emotions all the time is weak. Hiding them. Like, sometimes, yes, not everyone is the feel. But everybody don't deserve your emotions, though. No, but see, but yes, I agree.

Everybody doesn't deserve your emotions. And there should be times where, you know, like Roy said, it shouldn't be an everyday thing. But there are people who, you shouldn't hide your emotions all the time. Because if you hide your emotions all the time, then that's how people, we have all these people commit and taking themselves out. And people are like, well, they seemed like the happiest person in the world. And it's like, because nobody ever knew what they were feeling.

It's okay to share your emotions. Can it be used against you? Yes. But sometimes if I'm at my desk here and I break down and cry, I don't think that that makes me weak. I think that in that moment that's what I needed to do. And it would be much easier for me to go in the bathroom and cry than to cry in front of y'all. I don't think that crying in public makes you weak. But you do have to practice emotional intelligence at some point, though.

I don't think you can just be like vulnerable and, you know. I think that's part of the journey of vulnerability is exploring those feelings. And then, yes, you'll get to a place where you can manage them. way different. No matter what, as much as this is great with our generation that we are so vulnerable

and cool with feelings, we still have a job to do and you can't always be super emotional to get a job done. It's a balance that you need to learn. But if somebody's having, like, just a fucking awful week and they just can't take it

and break down one time at work, I don't think there's anything wrong with that. If that's who they are all the time, like we can't even get through a fucking marketing meeting because Jan's always crying. Like then I think, yeah, Jan should be fired

and probably find a different job because she can't manage her feelings here. Yeah, but it's not, it's like if you're crying like that at work, it's nothing wrong with you crying at work, but there's something wrong if you're crying at work. There's something seriously wrong.

And you need to check that, what that is, whatever that is. Like, if you're in the workspace or wherever just crying, it's like, all right, let it out, because obviously you need to, but like there's something wrong. Like, what is the problem?

Well, they're crying. so there's obviously something wrong. But that's why I said. Practicing emotional intelligence is a, it's a thing that people need to do because you don't need to be doing that in front of a bunch of people that, one, don't deserve it, two, probably can't do nothing for you, can't help your situation. So when they say people don't give a fuck, people don't. I think that's where it comes from because it's like a lot of times,

we all have our own emotions and things that we're dealing with. We all have our own lives and things that we're dealing with. So I might not even be available to help you in your moment because it's like, I'm right with you. I'm ready to cry right here too, but I can't. And see, this is another thing too. And I feel like men really have this issue. Tears don't always need to be fixed.

It's like if it's raining. Like, there's nothing you can do about it. It's coming. So you saying I can't help you because you're crying. Just because I'm crying doesn't mean that I need you to help me. Same way when you see people on the subway crying and we all ignore them and just be like, girl, I feel you. That's it.

Like you can. Nigger crying. on the train, I'm off at the next stop. You're about to do something. This is an act. Yeah, all right, fan. He's not having a mental health day. This happens right before you shoot up the whole car.

His hand is in his pocket. Yeah, yeah. He got a trench on. It's 90 degrees outside. I'm cool. Next stop is mine. I agree with you, DeMeres, but there are different levels to that. Yeah, sometimes you just need to cleanse, just need to cry.

Just need to get certain things out, which I practice in relationships of like, do you just need to vent or do you want to fix the problem? Asking that in the beginning. Because some people just, I agree, just, you all, got to cry today and just get this shit out, I'll feel better. But to Mall's point, a lot of people do want to fix the problem. And if I'm going through my shit quiet as fuck, I can't also be here and carry your baggage too.

I got enough of my own fucking baggage. Like, I don't project my shit on other people because I know they're going through other stuff, which probably isn't healthy. But, you know, I'm on the journey with Bazaar too. Yeah. Not Kendrick. Who else would you guys like to see, do something like this? I liked the Rick Rubin and Andre 3000 article a few years ago.

I thought that was great. I did you see a clip. I think it was Metro and Timberland. We're having a combo back and forth. Because again, it's not an interview per se. But what artists would you guys like to see together on this? I mean, the most obvious for me would be I would love to see Jay Z interview Biazza. I think that that way.

They did that shit on the outro of everything is love. No, I meant like over. They went back and forth like kissing styles about their problems. He thought Martha was bad. Not like that. Well, like an actual business inner view. I think that that would be good. But that's, I mean, I feel like that's the obvious one.

What about you? I mean, I don't want to lead the transition here. But I think a Tyler, the creator, Farrell, one would be great. I agree. I would like to see. They did something like that already, though. Yeah. I like to see my thing, my thing with these.

I love the Kendrick's as well as cool. But what I would be more interested in is finding someone that idolized someone and now is an established star and having them go face to face with their idol and have the opportunity to just have that moment with them and to speak freely to them. So I think that would be cool. I'm trying to think of other artists where that would make sense, a younger artist. Can we have Nause interview, Jekyll? Post beef.

After you let him down? Mm-mm. So, Julian, I let Nause down. Practicing emotional intelligence, Julian, I didn't say anything. I had a lot I could have said right. I could have trauma dumped on you just now and I didn't. I just feel like that would be a good one. That's me.

I would love to see Jordan and LeBron. That would be great. Oh, wow. They would never do that, though. As LeBron gets ready to retire in a couple years. And obviously, he's already a huge businessman, but he'll probably become a bigger business person once he's done playing. I think that conversation with Michael Jordan and LeBron James would be,

I think it would be great for all athletes, honestly, especially black athletes. You know what I think would be surprisingly interesting? thing. Someone like we don't hear a lot from outside of the music. Someone like future sitting down with one of the younger kids from Atlanta. I think that would be cool. Yeah. Do you hear him like actually speak and open up outside of, you know, all the music he's been putting out? I think that could be good and help serve a demo that probably needs it. Yeah. I still would like to see the peer versus peer thing too, though. Because I do think at this point, we can say Siza and Kendrick are peers. Yes. Is that safe to say?

Yes. Closer in age, similar time coming up. They're both A-listers. Like, I think they're-peer. That's why I really enjoyed this combo, because it feels like, obviously, there are two separate people going through two separate different journeys.

You feel like Sizz's A-list? Yeah. Not Chris Rock? You know, Ciz's bigger than Chris Rock? I was talking about music. Just music. Oh, okay. I'm just fucking, I like in the...

No, because you know my triggers, now I'm really thinking about it now. Practice emotional intelligence. Don't yell at me. It's not good for a podcast. Just got a crash out. This generation does not want emotional intelligence at all. Our favorite thing is the term crash out.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But with Siza and Kendrick, different paths, but I think they're kind of in a similar part in their lives. I mean, Kendrick has a family, says it doesn't, so that's probably the biggest separation. But they're both going through a similar part in their career. and in their lives with, you know, being in their 30s. Yeah. I like the peer versus peer thing.

I think you can get more out of it because people are going through similar things rather than like the Sensei versus the the up-and-comer that loved him, which would be great combos. But, you know, I'd rather see, you know, Tyler do this with somebody that's currently in music. Yeah.

But, you know. Either way, I'm looking forward to this next project. I'm so excited. Since we recorded last, we got a. record and a half, I guess. The one, the one technically is a single that he put out this morning.

Can you guys pronounce these song titles for me as well? I don't think there's easy as bizarre. Well, this one's called Noid. It's short. It's paranoid. So Noid came out today and he, it looks like it's the third tracks. He put three Noid. I'm just, I love

Tyler. I could say so much about him, but I don't know. This seems, this whole world he's building. I'm really excited for this. I think it's going to be a great album. I love, again, to our conversation about not playing with the rules. He's doing a Tuesday release. He put out a single on a Monday.

And this single is more like it feels like less of a single and more like an interlude. Yeah. He wraps like maybe 16 bars. So I I'm just infatuated with the whole it's cinematic, the coloring, the shots, the drone shots,

the aesthetic. Everything is just I don't think anyone does it as good as he does. He's the epitome of when you let an artist, you know, do what they want to do and just have people surround you that believe in your vision and your dream. Like, he's the epitome of that. He's the perfect example of leave a genius alone to let them do it. Let them do what they want to do. I would love to see, I would love to see Tyler to create and DJ Callis sit down and talk.

Oh, yeah, I forgot about their whole. I would love to see that. I would love to see where Call it is today. Tyler's addressed it a few different times throughout the years where his opinion has changed obviously

because he was upset at the time then he explained that he was happy almost to shit on his album because why are you in the backseat shitting like on me

I've never said anything bad about you and then he moved on to like I don't really care which is usually how that cycle goes but yeah in the moment you got to let me be mad at what somebody said but the years later it's like

I don't care man and it was just another representation of opposite sides of hip-hop not understanding each other yeah well not on tyler's side because he didn't say anything to begin with but you know the quote-unquote a listers that look at people like tyler that are weird but have more money and sell more than him so it's like your goal is to make money and sell records i'm doing that over here better than you why am i weird i do your shit better than you that was the only thing you care about i think DJ cow i think that was ego got the best of him. Yeah, he wanted the number one. He wanted to be able to say,

yo, look at this. And Tyler goes number one, damn near every time he releases. So, I always found that weird. Like, even when, like, Troy Ab was calling Joey Badass and his crew weirdos and they're corny and, like, y'all don't play in the club. Mm-hmm. And it's, uh, y'all y'all are on majors. Joey Badass was a completely independent artist that was

selling out festivals. I think his rate at that time, he said, was 250K. Mm-hmm. Like, now, I don't really care about the club on Gansavort today. Like everything you preach about independence, making money, impact. I do all that. And I do it better than you. So why am I weird? Because I'm not playing in the club.

Like, I was just found that juxt odd with hip hop. But they did it to Kanye too. And now look at who he is. Right. I think Tyler's already established himself as one of the greats of this generation. I don't think we need to get into that. So I don't think this is really going to change. too much of the trajectory like this will make Tyler up a peg pause than he is already because I think he deserves to be in that top five conversation period when it comes to this generation.

What do you guys think of, again, the song that he put out today, it circles around paranoia. And it seems like he's entering this phase of being, you know, tens of millions of dollars up. And now the paranoia of being successful is setting in. I think that that's just like a financial paranoid. He, you know, the few lyrics we get here, he's saying, like, I can't buy a home in private, home invaders, got my brothers die in. Now he talks about carrying a gun in his car and under his bed.

His neighbors want him dead. Like, he's saying all these things that are evoking, like, fear that come with being this successful. What do you guys think about, you know, the actual lyrics from the song? It's funny. I didn't think too much of this record. I like it a lot.

but again, it feels like an interlude and feels like something so much bigger to what the overall theme of the album is going to be. Like, I don't think we're supposed to really fully understand this yet. I think it was intentionally short, intentionally brief to give us just a taste of what the bigger picture will be with this project. That's why I'm not like overthinking too much on this record

because it's not supposed to be heard just by itself. And I think Tyler has a pretext. pretty quick turnaround when he starts promoting stuff. Usually it's like a week or two. So I think... He releases on DSPs? I think tomorrow... This one came out on DSPs today. Next week we're going to get... The album comes out next Tuesday.

Oh, it is officially next Tuesday. Yeah, October 28th. So yeah, I mean, as much as I love this... He's doing a Tuesday release? He's doing a Tuesday release. He's doing a Tuesday release. He had a Nardwar interview where he said, I miss Tuesday releases and Nardware asked why. And he said, look, like, I understand numbers-wise. The labels always say the weekend's better for streaming, but he said, I don't believe in that. I said, I think people play music more on the weekends, but they're not really listening to it. You said, I want this to be something that you listen to on the train or in the car as you go to work.

Like, something you're, like, sitting and consuming in one listen by yourself when you're going through, like, the nine to five during the work week, rather than you listening to it with friends, like, at a party on the weekend. Yeah. Which I agree. I think that's interesting. And he's like, it's not worth the numbers for me to do a weekend release. He goes, I just believe in the Tuesday release. And I wanted to do that. What's your favorite way to consume music?

I'm not going to allow. I think minds is definitely sleeping. Like while you're asleep, you're about to go to sleep? You wake up and know the album? I promise you, it's weird. If you play music, I'm one of those people,

I can hear everything in my sleep. Okay. Like, I'm talking about sleep. If there's music, no, if there's music playing, like, I can hear the music.

It's part of the dream? Not necessarily part of the dream, but I can definitely hear the music. Like, I can hear what I'm listening to. I agree. I never believed that before, but when I was watching,

narcos, I started dreaming in Spanish. And then I was like, oh, I am really known for real. Or were they just talking in Spanish while you were asleep and you were hearing that. No, I was dreaming in Spanish. You're prepared to go meet the plug. Like, I got to learn Spanish in a month. I swear. I'm going back to Mexico. You got to be careful what you listen to when you're sleep. That's why I hooked on phonics folded. You just needed narcos and go to sleep.

Yeah, that's it. But yeah, I love, I love playing albums like just while I'm sleeping and just have it on, on repeat. the whole album and you can definitely hear it and that's how some of the albums when the CISA album came out in Williams in Seattle yeah at night like I just had it on repeat went to sleep played it, woke up the next day let it play I was like this album was crazy

I prefer my number one way is either walking or running the CISZE joint I just walked around Seattle and listened my first listen was just walking around the city of Seattle I'd take in music better that way second would probably

be on the train, third would be the car. While I'm cleaning too. So cleaning, I like that a lot, but music that I've already heard. New music I don't prefer to do with cleaning. Because sometimes, you know, you get distracted and can't take in everything that's happening with the music. But I love putting an album on that I've already heard to clean.

But to take in an album for the first time, I'm walking and running is typically the best way. Do you guys read the lyrics? So I really enjoy the thing now that Apple does, obviously, where you have the lyrics. I prefer to read the lyrics when I'm hearing the song for the first time. Actually, sometimes I'll read the lyrics before I listen to the song. Really? Yeah, lyrics are what's most important to me in a song.

It's like eating dessert before dinner. Nope. Lyrics are what's the most important to me. And I always thought it was like that for everybody, but what I've realized either between working on this podcast and just meeting people, the beat and the melody is what's most important to people when it comes to music. Lyrics have always been number one for me.

I mean, personally, yeah, lyrics are up there with me, but I can name a bunch of amazing songs with shitty lyrics, but great melody. I can't name an amazing song that has great lyrics and a shitty melody. Excuse me listen to Taylor Swift. Taylor Swift has bad melodies. She has some songs where the lyrics are really good, but you would never listen to.

Okay. I think Taylor Swift's just like pop progression. Yeah. I'm a music guy though. If the music isn't good, I don't go, what you're saying. I'm on that side. I don't care. As much as I love lyrics.

If the music is terrible. Of course. Turn that shit off. Like if the music, I don't, you can be saying the illest shit, dropping the most jewels, all of that. If that beat and that music and those melodies ain't right, it's just not palatable. I can't listen to it.

Yeah. And also like with writers that are really, really, really good, I don't like to necessarily read the lyrics because things can be interpreted differently. Like, I like to interpret it how I hear it. Because I feel like if I sit and read the lyrics, I may not perceive. it in my way.

I perceive it in what I'm reading. Like, you've never listened to a record and got a completely different perspective of it and then like went back and read the lyrics and I was totally fucking wrong. And now I kind of don't like it as much. I can't relate to it the same because I just

misheard the lyrics in my way and my brain likes it this way. I know it sounds nuts. No, I get what you. I've definitely thought for like years on certain records. They were saying something that I related to and then I went and looked at the lyrics. I was like, oh, this is not anything of what I thought it was. Yeah.

She's five, too. Yeah. That one should have been common sense, though. Like, she's five, too. Why would you think that? She's fine, too. She's five, too. But I want you to.

Who can eyeball a chick's height? Like, she five, too. Kamala campaign ed. But you can't, y'all, you can eyeball a chick's height. You can't eyeball people's height, period. No, you cannot. Yeah, you can. How tall do you think I am?

You eyeball Demaris's weight. Yeah, which is way harder. you were like what not even five pounds no he was literally like two pounds off yeah then it's a weird skill to have yeah I mean being the weight whisper is funny coming from where I'm from you do with a lot of weights you gotta be able to tell when that's off

that ain't that ain't a that ain't an eight ball you shave some off the top nigga give me the rest of my we were on we were on a lot not gonna lie I hung it up a while ago but I know I got we were on a work zoom meme and bix and we were talking about

like real work shit. Biggs started doing math about an offer and he's like, my bad, I was still doing crack math. But he was accurate. Just the way he did it, how he added that shit up was so fucking funny. But I started laughing because I knew what he was doing. He was like, yo, too.

I was like, this ain't that. This ain't that. But he landed at the right number. Yeah, but I made my mind. I'm like, yo, this ain't that, my nigga. But yeah, he got the number right. Yeah. Oh, man.

That's funny. What were we talking about before that? Oh, fine, too, five, two. Guessing height. If you're talking to a girl, though, and she brings up, yo, do you like that girl? She's five, too, but don't worry, I want you instead. Yeah, that makes no sense. No, she's fine, too.

Don't get me wrong, but I want you. People are slow. Yeah. I love slow people. But, Ma, you really can't eye or height. It depends. Like, all right, so if you're wearing heels, right, you walk in here with hills. I don't know you.

I'm just looking at you. I can kind of sort of guess if you take the hills. off, I look at you like, okay, see the hill. I'm like, all, she's probably dropped down three, four inches, maybe five four by five. Like, you can, you know what I'm saying? But I don't think that, I don't know why people thought that that's what Lloyd was doing. And his record, she's five, too.

Just eyeing some height. Yeah, like, no, it's not what he was saying. And such an interesting height to pick. Like, there was always a stereotype five-five with brown eyes was used in so many records. But, like, I want that shorter girl over there. And not only that, fine and five don't sound that, like, if I'm in a song. He sang it. You gotta hear it.

And he didn't really clarify. He didn't really, like, it wasn't really clear. She's five. It was just five. You used her five. You ain't here to N-E or the V-E. It was just she's five to. All right.

Lloyd sometimes does that throughout his entire career. One of my, one of my favorite Waleigh records is Wally and Lloyd sabotage. When we were in college, the first time we were listening to that, I really thought on the hook, Lloyd said, My girl likes her salad toss. He doesn't pronounce his words like all the way right. Well, what did he say? He might have said that.

No. You know, that hooked me. My girl likes her salad toast. I mean, what's wrong with that? My girl likes to sabotage. Oh. But how he says it, it almost sounds like salad toss. So did you like it before or after you found out of it?

No. He thought it was. Well, he thought it was salad toast. That was his shit. That's when I felt seen. Yeah, you was like, okay. Me too. No, I started laughing.

I'm glad it was sabotage. That would have been a weird thing to say. You just heard Ma say, me too. You just going to let him rock out what he said? I know he likes to get his diaper changed. Who don't know that about me? That's like one of the first things he says when he meets people. Yeah.

I hug him and say, yo, change diapers? Yeah, I got this pamper on me right now. Oh, what? Please. Do we have voicemails? We do. There's some fun ones today. I'm really excited.

Let's get into it. You've got mail. Yo, what's saying, y'all? What's up, Ma'all? What's up, Rory? Julian, what's up, my boy? Hey, DeMix. Hey, DeMis.

I ain't gonna lie. I think they should record the whole podcast. It's just looking at you. I ain't going to lie. Just camera on Demers. All hour and 45 of them things. I ain't going to let to you. But I'm from Nashville, Tennessee.

I ain't going to get my name because y'all big platform. I don't need people in my business. But basically, I was running. raising a child for like a year and a half come to find out the little crumb snatcher one in the mind. So now I'm in the situation where like my mama. What did he just refer to

a baby? Crum snatcher. Oh, that's cute. Okay. It's still fucking with the girl and the baby. Like, she picking them up for church. His mom is still fucking with the girl. Can we turn this up? And she like it. And like, I'm mad because I feel like

this girl is still getting the the bonuses of being like, like attached to me when it's really fuck her. Like, I really don't like this situation. But at the same time, like, I know my mama really cares about the little boy and anything. So, like, should I stand on business and tell my mama to stop fucking with them? Or should I, like, you know, just let the situation play out and just grinning buried? Because I do understand that, like, a child can't have too many.

support systems. So, and I definitely loved the little boys still, so I still want him to have that support system. But like, I just, I don't know. How would y'all approach the situation? I just want to know how y'all think about it. You got to take that right. Yeah.

That was a long-ass life. I know what that was? I mean, I understand him wanting to still be in the child's life, but I mean, a woman lied to you about a kid being yours. Well, maybe she didn't know.

Excuse me? Maybe she didn't know. That's even worse. No, I think lying is worse. Yeah, I think if you had sex with somebody while me and you were having sex and then you're pregnant, I think that should just be something. If you know, you weren't wearing protection with this other gentleman, I think that's a conversation we need to have before the baby is here. I agree. And because, what, one and a half he said?

One and a half, yeah. Yeah, like, you should do that swab. Yeah, like, you know. Yeah, could you imagine Roy just walked in here was like, well. Yeah. 19 months in like yeah I actually asked Roy that question I wonder if Roy's willing to share

what he said he would do are you willing to share that oh mall and I are on the same page when it comes to this type of stuff I said no see we've had a similar voicemail like this before but when I brought up

I'm like Amara bro you're not gonna just he's like bro I'm like there's no way I watch from a distance yeah it's not my baby anymore yeah I'm on that

I'm on that time I'm on that. I'm on that. That ain't my kid. I'm going to jail free card. Yeah, because where this nigga at? He had bottle wars or something with him? Real for that.

Like, old nigger, I'm sitting here and loving this kid and, you know what I'm saying? And I need a refund. Getting no sleep waking up. Like, you know, the baby wake up in the middle of night. I get up, take care of the baby. Like, this nigga just getting home from the club. You fuck that. Come get your kid, man.

I'm not taking care of this baby. No, I'm not doing that. I'm sorry. I kind of feel, and we won't say his name, I kind of feel him when he was talking about his mom, like, you don't now. get to get all these great resources from us. So what Mall is saying, if that do ends up

being like a piece of shit or whatever, like now all of a sudden it's our responsibility because he doesn't know what the fuck to do. But he never said that though. He never said that the other father wasn't in the life unless I've misheard that. He just said that the girl likes going to church with his mom and

the girl and the baby like going to church with his mom. That's not an incredible research. I'm resource. It's God. Like I don't, she still has a relationship with the And my sister wanted to still be cool with the girl and the baby. Like, I mean, that's, that's their decision. But it's no longer my responsibility to take care of this job. And I don't think, I don't think she's, I don't think that he even put that across.

No, but he was saying like she still, you know, he, he says he loves the little boy. And, you know, he doesn't want the little boy to not have support systems. But that's because you can be honorable. You can be, you know, your moral compass can be intact, all of those things. But looking at a child that you know is not yours, like you just found out and you like, at one point thought that was your seed and was loving them. Your emotions changed towards that child. You still, I mean, not a piece of shit person.

You're still going to make sure the child is good if that's what you choose to do. But it changes something in you when you start to look at that kid and like, yo, she didn't like, this is not even my son. Like, that's crazy. And I fully believe in step siblings, step parents. I think that can be just as equal as love and viewed as that is my kid. But when it's a situation like this. I think that changes how you would feel about the entire situation

and start questioning yourself about everything. Like anytime you see that baby, of course you love the baby because the baby's been there a year and a half, a parent's love from what they viewed it. But now it's a reminder of questioning everything that's going on between your love for that kid and your entire surrounding. Like if this was a lie, you know,

I don't know if I could even look at this kid the same because that's just a reminder of a betrower. trail instead of love. Yeah, it's no fault of the kids. No, not at all. This kid just reminds me to Rory's part. Like, every time I see this, I'm going to think of you dragging me through all this bullshit that wasn't even like, it was not, it was not, it's not mine.

And then I'm always going to be thinking of you, the woman that made this fucking mess happen. Like, no, I would, I'm on your side, remove myself completely. I think, and I don't, I don't fault anyone if they didn't do that. Like, that's everyone. own decision, no judgment to anyone. Like, I can also totally see somebody loving their kid and finding out it's not theirs and still being like, yeah,

I want to stay. I love this kid. But I don't understand that. I don't, I would make my mom stop hanging out with them too. I think, I don't know. I just look at the situation and it's just a reminder of like the way that women and men love children. And this isn't me bashing men.

Just the way that women and men view love when it comes to like familial and, And like nurturing is just so completely different. Obviously, because that baby is inside of you. I'm not even talking about you. I'm not even talking about the ownership of the baby. Even in the areas of like step parents and things like that, I just, from what I've seen in my life, what I've experienced just the way that women and men love babies. But step parents is different.

Because if I meet you, if I meet you, you have a kid. And we're dating and, you know, we're in love now. Obviously, you have a kid. I'm going to love your kid and, you know, raise your kid. kid is what? Unless I cheat. But if I cheat on you, if I cheat on you with the kid's father, then what? Do you still love the kid? Do you still have that same relationship with the kid? No, right? I mean, it depends. How long we're, how long we'll be together? Like, how old is this kid? If this kid is not a year, you know what I mean? It's like, but now we've been together

four years and you and your child, we've lived together for four years. Of course, like, there's a, there's a connection there with me and the kid already, even if the kid is not my, But I went into it knowing that the kid is in mind because you had a kid when I met you. Now, I'm thinking this kid is mine. We're together. You're pregnant. I'm what you do, your pregnancy.

And they come to find out that's not my kid. I feel like I've been betrayed the entire relationship. So it's a different level of emotion there where it's like, step kid, I know it's not my kid. Would you get pregnant? I feel like this is my kid. Find out it's not my kid. I don't know what to believe and trust from you now.

That's where the difference is at. And to your point of this step parent, cheating scenario. That's why dating with kids is such high stakes. You're a piece of shit parent. If your kid has fallen in love with your new partner, looks at them like a stepmother. If I go and cheat, I know the stakes are so high that this other mother figure will now have to be taken away from my daughter. So yet, like, that really falls on the parent side. You can't be mad at the person like, damn, I got cheated on. I don't want to be in this relationship anymore, but I'll stick

with it because they have a kid that I love. No, but not even. You shouldn't be cheating because you know I'm going to leave. And now your daughter is now going to have another person leave them. I agree. But, and see, that's, and that was the difference that I was bringing up because you can leave me. But if you, it's this love word that we keep throwing out and it's like, do we really

love? Because when I look at love, I look at love as being unconditional. Love is being unconditional. My presence might not be unconditional, but the love is unconditional. So you're telling me that if we're in a relationship and I do something, I turn out to be a horrible person, whatever, and I, for some reason, we have to break up this kid that you've lived with for, like mom said, let's say four years. You leave me. You are now also your cutting connection with my kid. Stakes is high.

See, and that's, that was my point that I was making. I'm not saying that you're wrong for that. I just look at that like, uh, do you, did you ever really love my kid? If you're able to just never speak to my kid ever again because you don't want a relationship with me, then did you ever really love my kid or was this a part of me that you just accepted? Because that's not love.

That's true tolerating. There's people that I've dated, that I've loved that I don't will never speak to again. That doesn't mean I don't, I never love them. It just means like our relationship, our time has ended. And now you're obviously in another situation relationship and it's like... But they're not a kid.

I'm talking with a kid, innocent child. Even as a kid, it's like, if I'm going to a relationship and you get pregnant and we're together and I feel like, oh, she's having my, that's my kid, that's my son. And they come to find out it's not as hard. Like that level of trust and betrayal. The whole thing is tainted. Yeah, it's like that is.

No, we get that. We're talking about that new scenario. With that scenario, yes, if I love you and also love your kid, but then you cheat on me and I want to leave, I don't want to be in this relationship because you cheated on me. I still love you, but I know I have to leave. Like, I don't think anyone that's ever been cheated on immediately stopped loving the person when they found out. They just decided this is not.

going to work. Because I love them, I'm going to leave. Why can't that be the same with the child too? Because parents and kids are a package deal. So what's wrong with leaving the person that you were with that cheated on you? You love them, but I'm leaving. So I'm also leaving the kid.

Yeah. It's the same. It's your action that led to this thing. It's not, I'm not the bad guy because I have to walk. No one's saying. No, I know. I know. I know it's not where it's. But it's like your actions in turn made me have to do the following, which a part of that is ultimately having to walk from the kid as well.

And it makes that cheating again, stakes are even higher because now I'm looking at you like, all right, you knew you were not only risking me by going to cheat, knowing that I would leave if I catch you. You're also risking this bond I formed with your child. Yeah, no. So now I'm looking at you like, all right, so you risk me and your child? I also think that people aren't really having I think you're giving people more credit when they're going to do stupid things

I agree with you but I think you're giving people too much credit when they go to do stupid things I don't sure but we are all adults and every decision we make we have to deal with the consequences I don't care if you were going into it not thinking you're an adult

you should have been thinking I think my point the stakes is high my point got lost in this and I think we keep getting caught up I feel like you should not enter any child's life period if you are not willing to continue to,

especially if that child starts to rely on you, if you are not willing to continue to be in that child's life, regardless of any situation, you can leave a parent and still people co-parent all the time. So don't acting like you can't co-parent your step kid is, I've been in relationships with it is different, but only if you may, it's different, but it shouldn't, it doesn't have to be that different. Where is the real father?

But we're not, that's not, that doesn't, I don't know. That doesn't matter. No, it doesn't matter. That does. The father of your child? That doesn't matter? Let's say they passed away. Let's not make it like some nasty shit.

Okay, they passed away. Unfortunately, they passed away. In a bottle war. Even if they didn't, people form different. Like, for example, I love Amara. If Rory fired me today, me and him never were friends again, do you think that I would go my whole life without trying to at least attempt to see Amara? No, because that would mean that to me, that means that you never really loved her

in the beginning. You never really planned on having a bond with her to begin with. Like, I'm not going to abandon her because I'm abandon her father. Fuck her father. I'll call somebody else. Like, respectfully. But, like, that's how I love kids. I mean, if you use this hypothetical.

Or disrespect. Yeah, but, like, that's how I love kids. You know what I'm saying? Like, I've had friends that I've fallen out with, but, like, their kids can still call me. It's still up with your mom, but the kids can still call me. That's the type of love that I give out and that I've received from women. All I'm saying is that from men, I see that that tends to be a little different. That was my original.

Do you think there's a scenario where it's okay? for a guy to go date a woman with a child and just accept that rather than love that child unconditional. Yeah, but I don't think you should be... As far as marriage, I don't think you should take a man seriously who's... You can tell if a man's tolerating and accepting your child versus loving them. You can tell.

I mean, some of y'all got some kids that's hard to love. That's, I mean, that's what I was saying. Like, I could love you, but like, the more I get to know your kid, you got a bad-ass kid. That is true. We're assuming the kid is good. That's yeah. That's why I brought that question up.

Don't do that because what's a good kid and what's a bad kid? We know the bad kids. Just like a normal kid. Just like a normal kid. Just like a normal kid. The niggas they got the silver caps in their teeth already. Them little niggas, we could, yo, I'm not keeping in touch with a little Rihin. You'd pop the balloon.

Raised him before he robs me in 15 years. Yeah, I'm cool. He'll be in the penitentiary in 12 years. Don't worry about him. Then we'll have the house to ourselves. We can't save them all with the marriage. We've got to come to that realization. Every child can not.

Cannot and will not be saved. George Bush put me in the No Child Left Behind program. Man, fuck that. You know how many niggas from that program is in jail right now? Trust me. Oh, I was having a conversation, name drop, with Jay Electronica over the weekend. You guys make fun of me for going to Space Camp. In New Orleans, he went to Project Star.

And it was the same program. Project Star, okay. I felt like much better about myself based off the laughs you guys give me with my space camp. I mean, it's Jay Electronica. You act like it was a fucking pharmacist that say, yeah, I went to space camp too. You should have fellow autism person. One of the greatest artists of all time. He is.

Yeah. Artists tend to be able. But we're probably both on the spectrum. It's probably why we're both there. Yeah. Project Star is way harder than Space Camp. I was kind of tight that Louisiana calls it that. Jay is still in Space Camp.

That's what I'm like, what? He's still a Project Star. I mean, everything is UFO. He lives now. Oh, he's in Project Star. The highest spot of UFO site. He's at the university of projects. He went there to find the mother's shit.

Exactly. Love you, Jay. If we're wrapping this up, what advice are we giving him as far as the baby going to church with his mama? I think more kind of stuff like that. I mean, he could keep that. If they should know that if the mother and that is, you know, I don't know if his sister, whoever, if they want to still have a relationship with that, with the child, I can understand that. But I can, on the same hand, understand how he doesn't want to continue that relationship.

Because it's just a certain level of betrayal there and a certain level of, you know, dishonesty that I think is very hard for some people to recover from because I don't think you ever look at that woman the same way. Again, you don't believe anything out of her mouth at that point.

Yeah, I think he got lucky. Get out of there. A year and a half. I mean, that's still a lot of time. So you're going, you love your child the moment they're going. It's a lot of time. And again, you got to understand.

He, you know, it's not an easy decision for him. But it's, you know, that's just a, I can understand if he decided to no longer keep that relationship going. And I don't think he should feel bad. about himself if he's tough for him. Because again, a year and a half, I can speak to this, is when you just start to get to know your kid.

Like, they're now a person with feelings and, like, reactions. It's not just something that's been sitting on a boob and making cute faces. Like, this is a person now. Yeah. So that can obviously be tough because love changes once, you know, you actually know the personality. Yeah. I have a cry challenge for Mal to double back on his point of never crying.

be a man shut the fuck up. I challenge Moll to watch the YouTube videos of the kids asking their step parents to adopt them and not cry. Oh my God. You're a sociopath if you can watch those videos

and not all out crying. They are the most beautiful videos I've ever seen in my life. I've seen some of them. It's up there with the dogs in the army of... Oh, stop. My heart. I'm telling the...

Can you adopt me videos? It's called Hope Corps. I don't think I would cry. from that. I would cry from watching adopting puppies and shit like that more than I would like that to me is a little more pulls on the heartstrings. There is a- You cry when

Rahim got shot. That's like what- There's a series going on on TikTok right now with football players from like low-income schools going up to their favor, the teacher or the staff member that impacted them the most and letting them wear their jersey for game day so like they will walk up to the teacher with the jersey

and like the teacher start crying and shit. That had me like, boohoo fucking crying all weekend See I don't know if I cried I'm like yo What was their record Cause I was like

Y'all wasn't shit I'm not wearing your jersey If I'm your teacher I'm like yo get out of here You got 50 yards on a year The fuck away from you On the ear Like

Like get away from It's week 12 And you have 50 rushing yards On the season You have 50 You can't catch You dropped the pass Last week to go to states

Like get out of here I'm not wearing your fucking jersey Yeah not everything Is the plot To blindside Yeah like what No Speaking of crying, you guys remember

Ty Pennington's extreme home makeover? Yeah. Man, my family used to get together and cry with these fucking things. These shows were so emotional. She, Julian cries somebody to get their kitchen done over. No, no. You stop. No, that's not it. They were knocked down the whole

home. Julian, if you admit it, I'm going to be right there with you. That shit makes me tear up to. You niggins was crying if they get a new garage. Hell yeah. Knocked down the whole home and they'd be like, move that bus. And then it's like Ty Pennington. Oh, I remember that. It was fucking incredible.

And then, like, you see the kids freak out and like. Oh, my God. That shit was so emotional. Speaking of Brad Pitt and George Clooney, I think it's Oceans 12 when Brad Pitt goes into George Clooney's hotel room. And he has a glass of wine. I think he was watching this show. Yeah. And he's like crying.

And Brad Pitt's like, are you all right? No, it was Oprah. They were watching Oprah, I think. But it was like a makeover for a house. And George Cleaning was like, it's about the kids at the end of the day. I'm not crying at that shit, man. That and the one where the boss undercover boss. That's just more funny.

It can be funny, but there were also episodes where it would get emotional. And the guys like, you know, I've been working on the assembly line for like 50 years. And then the boss would come in and be like, you said you were talking about your kids and they have student loans and you're working overtime to, you know, pay for this and groceries and everything. And he would just like literally like take the helmet off of hand him a check and be like, everything's fixed now. Like, ah, come on. Nah. Nah. How many times you think

Can't hold back to tears? People watch that show and like in their real life suspect somebody that maybe they're on the show right now and like lean into it and it ends up just being just like their co-work.

Yeah. You get all their hopes up. I'm not going to lie, Will Smith almost got me though in the pursuit of happiness. He almost got me. Oh my God. I almost got you.

At the end? I boohoo. Yeah, he almost got me. I started cross at Will, you son of a bitch. You almost got me. What about I am? I am legend.

Yeah, I am legend when he's strangling the dog. Oh my God. Don't kill a dog. Will has a lot of tear-jerkered movies. Seven pounds, I cried when he tried to kill that fucking zombie? Yeah. I was like, yeah, you ain't got no choice. Either you or him?

German chaper. I know, and that's why I was so sad. That was his best friend and he has to kill his best friend to save the world. Sometimes he still didn't say the world. No, it was when it was when it was like six endings and he still didn't. It was when he was about to throw a bomb and like kill himself to save like the girl with the antibodies. And it was the butterfly and his daughter was like, look, daddy a butterfly.

And they flashed back, oh my God, the tears. Don't ever know when that was a daughter or son. Um, this day. Do you guys cry? It was a, it was Willow. Oh. Damn. I mean, Jaden looks like that.

Their brothers and say, anyway. Did you guys cry when you watched, uh, this is so random. You guys remember Adam Sandler's click? Oh my God. I love that movie. It's a great movie. It didn't bring me to tears. It did make me cry.

His dad died or something. like that and he couldn't like rewind or something. It was an emotional scene. Go back and that shit got, I'm like, oh, Adam Sandler, let's watch a family laugh. And I ended up crying. But that actually, I'm happy I watched that movie when I was younger. There's really good lessons in that movie. It is a great moment.

Like the whole purpose of life is the hard shit. That's the whole purpose of life. That's what Kendrick said in that interview. And don't always work all the time. Ignore your family and everything you actually want because you're trying to do your architect podcast. Lil Wayne said, I can do this shit from my, click like Adam Sandler.

I don't remember. I control hip hop and I'm going to keep it on my channel. Was that after you said five bathrooms? I could shit all day. Different song, but same era. Do we have another voicemail? Oh, yeah. Oh, I was going to ask you guys, you want something like depressed

that we could try to make fun or something that's fucking cry here, man. Should we go down to the phone? Let's see who can cry. Let's give depression advice. You didn't hear what he actually said. You want to hear some depressed shit that we can make fun of. I said that we can try to make fun of. Oh.

It is sad. It's a depressing voice, man. Or we can just do something that's lighter. I want to see. I want to get sad. All right. What is wrong with mall? Yeah, let's see we won't cry here.

That's easy. Hello, everybody. I'm just going to get straight to it. Oh, can you not see my name? Thank you. I mean, it says anonymous. So the last few months, my life has been terrible. I've got a hand injury.

That don't sound crazy. Car accident, medical bills, pulling up. I have insurance, but I don't know. Just not working. And I fell into depression. So I pretty much just been having sex with anything.

Went from three bodies at 25 to like nine in two months. I don't know if that's crazy, but. No, baby. Fuck through the pain, bro. Also, just unfortunately got infected with HSV-2. So, yeah. He was fucking Gucci Thirlig. From who I don't know.

See, pause, pause the music. Stop. What? We're not doing that. I didn't do it. Well, if he's in Atlanta, there's a high chance. It was probably one of his residuals. Also, someone DM me over the weekend.

I know, and we're going to leave her alone. Of course. I'm not even going to give any hints. Somebody we know DM'd me and said that she almost fucked that guy and was listening to the podcast and was like, oh, thank God two years ago when I was about to beat. I didn't. I know her? No.

Who? Thank God. Yeah, no, I mean, you've spoken to her. I said no hints. No, they couldn't hear that. They couldn't hear, Peach. He has the headphones on. Peage, could anyone hear you talk?

No. All right, cool. Well, yeah, you've met her before. This man just said that he is depressed, broke, and fucked up, and now he has herpes. Why are we, we can't laugh at this? Why, I said we can try to laugh, so let's continue. It doesn't end on a happy note.

Well, let's go. I didn't think this was going to take a turn. been on all the polling and I just stopped caring. And yeah, I don't want to do anything with anybody because I'm going to affect, I don't want to affect anyone. And I can't really afford to do the things that I like doing. So I just been working and yeah. So I just want to know what should I do?

And thank you. That's it. I really am about to cry. I didn't want, I didn't think that this would actually make me cry. That is so fucking sad. I can answer. I can answer him. As someone that has fucked through the pain

and realize that's not a solution to dealing with your problems, I think it's a time to reevaluate. You see that did not work and search other solutions in getting out of this feeling in this hole that you're in. Sometimes we have to try shit

and fail at it to realize that that's not the path. Fucking through the pain was not it. Trying to just take everything that's happening to you and get a distraction by just having a fucking orgasm with a stranger to feel good for two seconds is not the solution. So we know that now. And unfortunately, there was something added into that scenario. But what's done is done. And clearly, that's not a solution for you. So we can check that off the list and start looking at healthier ways to get out of this hole.

because I've tried to find plenty of ways to get out of depression, whether it be substance abuse, just a bunch of different things that made you feel good for the moment, and then you start to feel way shittier, and you realize, all right, man, I need to stop right now and find healthier ways to get through this entire thing. That's usually when you start to find the ones that are healthier.

Everyone's different, so I'm not sure what that will be for him, but he does know going that route is not going to get it done. whatsoever. Anything that's codependence and sex is one of those. Sex is a vice as well. Vices will not get you out of those holes. So I would start looking into healthier options like what? Again, everyone is different. Starting with exercise, I think is across the board one of the absolute best ways. I think reading is an absolute great way and there's so much to pick from. Therapy. Definitely find a good therapist. He's broke.com.

Sorry. Betterhelp.com use code Rory Mall for 20% off. 20% off. Yeah, I would start there. Again, it's tough when you don't know anything

about a person because everyone deals with this type of shit differently and everyone has different solutions. But exercise, reading, getting outside, you don't necessarily

have to be around people, but just being outside and outdoors, I think changes your mood like you would not believe. I think that's a super important one. That was one thing I liked about the Kendrick

when you said. He runs every morning. I can understand that. I think I could see that in Kendrick. Like, he seems he comes across as the type of person that likes to be alone a lot. And obviously running and exercising helps with your mental health and things like that

as well, obviously your physical health. But I could see, you know, like you said, exercising, being outdoors, you know, finding a good therapist, somebody you can talk to, finding your passions creatively, getting into things that, you know, you never did,

trying different things. I think anything to just keep your mind moving and your body moving is a big help. But to answer your question, yes, you absolutely have so much to live for and to be here for. You have so much to add to this world. So yeah, definitely. Just find yourself, man. Don't look for, you know, outlets in other places or through other people. You know, you're more than enough.

You have everything you need within yourself. Just, you know, tap into yourself a little bit more. That's what it sounds like. Oh, sorry. I know that he said he has health insurance. but I know he said he was going through a bit of a financial burden. You shouldn't feel bad about that. Everyone does have those moments.

Shouldn't feel embarrassed. But people that go through like traumatic events like car accidents, talk with your doctor, especially since you have insurance, they can point you in the right direction for mental care after that. Because a lot of times after accidents, people are traumatized. PTSD, your actual medical doctor can point you in the right direction with your insurance to go get free mental health care. So I would talk to your doctor.

As far as the HSV to your sex life is not over. Your life is not over. I know people that have that condition. First of all, a lot more people have it than y'all would think it is so common because a lot of people have it and they're not even, we've talked about this, they're not even aware that they have it

and they're out here just living their best lives. Like I said, right now, I don't think that sex needs to be your focus, not because of your disease, but because of everything else that you have. What I will say is that when you are mentally ready to deal with sex, well, first of all, now you have insurance, go get on, I think it's called ass lips.

It's a medicine that starts with a A. Ass lips? Is that not what she said? I didn't finish pronouncing it, but I don't know the complete name of it. There is a medicine that you can take to make you be way less symptoms. thematic and prevent the spread of it to other people.

So go get on that medicine. When you're mentally ready to have sex again, just you, I promise you, you can find a partner who too has HSV2 or someone who is willing to have sex with you as long as you're on the right medication. So when it's time to think about that, just note that your sex life is not over. You will have great sex. You're very young. That part of your life is not over.

So don't feel so much shame and guilt. I know it's still early right now, so you will, but just everything will be okay, I promise you. Yeah. And to your physical ailment, like with your hand, people get hurt, accidents happen. That stuff isn't permanent. It's temporary. Your handle get fixed. Like to Demeris's point, there's things you can do that'll help with the HSV2 as well.

But don't look at everything like a pile on and there's no way out. The reason why, to be quite frank, like the reason why you feel, you might feel so bad now is because you know what it feels like to not feel like that. So you also have to acknowledge like you have had highs in moments where you've been happier and in a better place. Just know that life, again, is not, you know, a singular trajectory. It's very much this. And know that right now you may be in a rut. I would also implore you to, if not therapy is not your thing. Family, friends, don't feel like you're alone. Mal suggested if you don't want to talk to people, it's really easy to be depressed and just kind of hold it in. But if you want to get outside, like connecting

with nature, if it's not yourself, then just make it something that's more than yourself. So it's just sounds so gay, but like, whatever, like get a plant. Like, get something where you have to be in charge of it and you're taking care of something. And you'd be surprised what results that'll yield to someone's mental health. I literally call my plants, my babies, and I mean it. I'm gay. But, like it's it's a real thing um so just you know find those things as well i'm not saying go out there and lift a shit ton of weights and like get ripped because that's not the you're not in that mental state to be motivated to do anything to that extent just start small um and i will say look d dm i'll answer dm me i'll face time you we can uh jump on a video call i've done that

before for some people that have left voicemails that they didn't want read i'm more than willing to talk i as someone that admittedly and has spoken pretty openly on this pod, try to do enough drugs and fuck his way into a state where I wouldn't wake up. I got out. So shit, you know, people, this stuff's real and you're not alone. So, you know, keep callback. Let's talk. Whatever. We'll, you know, figure this out. Yeah. And to, and to other people who may be feeling, you might not have the same exact situation, but you might feel lost or feel like you're lacking in two of the areas he mentioned, which one would be sex and the other one will be money.

As somebody who doesn't have much of either right now, I'm telling you that it will help you figure out there is so much more to life. There is so much more to life than the shit that people write songs about and rap about, which is sex and money. Like when you take those two distractions outside, granted we need money

to live and that will always be a stress, but when you don't put it on such a high pedestal and you learn how to live without much of it, then you really learn how to live. So, that's I like it, guys. Julian, what if you found out one of those plants

had a different father? Technically, one of mine does. One of mine is a, now, a friend of mine, a friend of mine propagated it for me, and then I have since then taken it into my home. Your friend being your surrogate is. I was going to say, you got an IVF fucking plant. And also, he should be on the up and up.

I mean, dude, he was crushing pussy with one hand, like clearly women like him. Mm-mm. Yeah, thank you. Just stop. Yep. I mean, to go from, look, just to break the room, the energy, to go from not getting pussy to nearly tripling your rate in like two months with a busted hand, you're doing something, right? Gotta be charming.

You did something. You got a cast on you because of the most pussy you've ever gotten in your life and also caught some. Yeah, but that's a separate. We're talking about just like, he could have sex with one person and caught that. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, I know. But just, you know, to keep that in mind to when you're talking about, yeah, look, you were crushing them. Well, I was trying to give a positive, like people, even with one hand, people still liked you.

Yeah, no, for sure. So. Don't let one hand. Do they all sign his cast? You sound fine, too. So. All right. He sounds fine.

What? I know voices. I know voices. You know, wait, you know voices. Camarice, no voices. She's no, nigger fine if she hear him. I'm like Ray Charles. No, Ray Charles.

Why are you like Rachel? Why are you like Ray Charles? I don't know. Ray was grabbing the arm. But see, he had to touch. I don't even need to touch. I can just need it here. Ray want to know how heavy you is. It's a big mama right here. But see, LIPO would have fucked him up.

Yeah, because them arms be fat, but that ass me nice too. That weights be small. You got to get them arms sucked. I saw the funniest tweet over the weekend. Somebody tweeted over the weekend. I can't wait to see Big Meach's reaction to BBLs in Atlanta. And then I started to think about it. They weren't really around.

Yeah. It wasn't a thing. Meach was going to see a whole new world. And then somebody was like, no, somebody was like, Meach can be so disappointed when he come out and see all these begging ass women. And this girl was like, no, I think he's going to be more disappointed to see 17 niggas. I don't want hookah. Yeah.

That's going to set him back. Yeah. That's going to set him back. Once you see that, once you see how these niggas is partying now, yeah. Yeah. I saw BBL at the airport. They still, those things still suck the life out of a room. It's comically bad, most of them.

Yeah, some of them are nice Very rare I've seen some baby I've seen some of them are nice Some of them get it done right They go to the right doctor Like they don't go crazy They don't want to like a cartoon character

They all look crazy That's the Bronx girls No disrespect No no no no Some from the Bronx they got nice ones We ain't doing that There's some but you know what the fuck I'm talking about ma'am

You go to a strip You go to the strip club in the Bronx You know They're not from the Bronx They're not from the Bronx Them Dominican girls in the Bronx Go and that largest ass They can find mom

Well yeah that's the you know, the ones that are not so mentally sharp as the knife. Yeah, that's the one. Not the sharp knife in the drawer. They just think that just men want anything. And it's like not all of us are the same, man. Some of us like normal looking women, not cartoons. Oh, I forgot to tell you before we close.

Peach saw me in a rare airport form. Well, not rare. He saw me in my airport form. Like when I get on my shit. Yoling at something. Who are yelling at? We were going to TSA and there was like a family in front of us. And there was a guy, but I thought it was just.

to the line that was at that TSA part, not like the 17 of the lines that were over there. So I start walking, and the TSA agent goes stay. Like a dog? And I, you know, all of a son of Jake feeling started coming up with me. You can't tell Roy. I said you want me to roll over too? Rory.

No, she deserved that, though. Stay is crazy. I would have balked at him. I actually double-checked with Peach first because he was still talking to the fan. I was like, did he just tell me to stay? Like, I had to make sure I wasn't hearing things that a grown man just said stay to me. Stay is crazy. Yeah, I was pissed.

Yeah. But, you know, federal offenses, different countries. Yeah, like in Houston, I would have, like, cool. I would enjoy the state. Yeah, you couldn't give me your best material and not at the border. Nah, not at the, not. Because it was custom. Because you know you do customs in Toronto for America.

Yeah, not at the custom. Nah, don't play no games, bro. Don't fucking round. It's like, I'm an American, sir. Why would you talk to me that way? So, all right. Just let me through this fucking. Let me through this gate right here.

You know I'm American? Yeah. That was nuts to me, though. Tickets available now, new Rorymore.com. We will be in Atlanta, November 22nd, and then home, New York City to end the year, December 14th at the Gramercy Theater. Tickets available now. Hope to see y'all soon.

Thank you again to everybody that came out to Toronto. Had a great time. Yep. Good to see everybody. Good to see some familiar faces. Good to meet some new people. Shout out to Marie, lovely Marie. Spaghetti and meatballs.

Oh, yeah. Great company. Oh, yeah. She's amazing. You didn't post it yet because it's in one of our merch bags. Yeah, she did a great job. She has some beautiful cards and stuff like that. If you ever want to send somebody a nice card around the holidays, birthdays,

whatever, check out spaghetti and meatballs on Instagram. Shout out to our girl, Marie. She was dope. Has some amazing gifts. The T-shirt that the Kahneman gave you. So I was going to wear it today. I will be wearing it on Thursday. It's in my suitcase.

Oh, yeah. Yeah. The one new posts, that's so cute. Yeah, I was going to wear it today. Rory cried twice on Saturday. in Toronto. I'm gonna let you know. Really?

I'm a car. He cried when they gave him a t-shirt, which I thought was dope. It was so cute. And then he cried at the end of the show when somebody asked the question, he was like, yo, my favorite thing from working with Mall the last few years is watching his relationship with my daughter. He almost started crying on stage when he said. Oh, that was really nice answer to that question. I think the original question was, what's your favorite quality about Mall within working with him? And I said, you know, how he treats my daughter in their relationship.

Like, Amara runs to Mall every time. He's one. I wanted to cry the whole weekend. She likes black people, but that's, that's sweet. She likes black. To close the loop on the conversation. We were nervous in the beginning. No, she definitely, she liked me and Ma more than she liked you.

There was like a few, there was like a few studio sessions. Like when Jesse Boykin's walked in, she was like, and then things started to add up. And key was like, do you think she's like scared of black people? I was like, no, I don't think that. I am. So it makes sense. It's like, it's nature. I'm scared of niggas.

I'm scared of niggas. I see niggas outside. I go the other way now. Yeah, I ain't fighting. I ain't got time for that. Like every black person is walking around. I thought, I mean, the Y-Ns, I don't fuck with the Y-Ns. Oh, I see some pooh-shis-dies.

I'm calling the cops. I think that's standard for everybody. Yeah, I'm calling police. You niggas got ski masks on at two in the afternoon. I'm calling police. It's not even just the Shiksy, though. It's the, it's the- I'm sweating.

Why you got that shot? And you know what stresses me out is what I've realized, because my bonus daughter is about to go into high school soon. Bonus daughter. Yeah. What's that? My ex's daughter. Oh, okay.

Yeah. Y'all got to do a deluxe. So it's a step and bonus? Well, bonus and step mean the same thing, but we're not married. So bonus daughter. Bonus kid. But even the kid. She's going to high school?

She's going to be going to high school soon. Maybe I think like two years. Okay. But the kids are starting to dress like what they see. So like they're not the regular young niggas. Like they're pretty innocent kids. kids, but they have, like, the, the satchels that usually have guns in them. But, like, they don't have guns in them.

They have, like, skittles in there and shit, right? But it's, like, y'all are dressing, like, these niggas that were terrified up. So we don't really know the difference. Like, y'all wearing, like, ski masks just because y'all cold, like, and y'all think it's a train. It's, like, I think you're going to rob me. So can you just, like, find a better role model. Yeah. And sometimes, like, I'd rather be a racist stereotype and alive than it didn't take the risk.

Every time. Like, I'm, all right, you can look at me crazy for assuming that. What if I was right? Yeah. I'd rather not. I'm with you. I'll just be racist. Yeah.

I'll take it. But there's a lot of white kids that be wearing them shits that I'm terrified of. Yeah. Oh. Listen. Actually, it's a lot of white kids in the mall where I'm like, I'm going to go back to the food court. I don't care. I don't want to go by Lishap.

The white guy is the scariest whole bit. There's no telling what he did. I'd be a crew just a white guys with shi-stis. And I'm 14 years old. I'm turning around. I don't care what race you are. If you have on the shysty, I'm calling the police on you. Period.

Maybe their faces. I have a bedazzled one. I don't care if it's bedazzled. I don't care what it is. If I can't see who you are, I'm calling the police. I bought it for the Beyonce concert. It's like,

but it has like stones all over it, but it's a shasty. And I have the matching like body suit. Yeah, niggas will shoot you in that. Niggas is wearing body suits. I'll hear killing niggas for sure. Nice. They're killing niggas and body suits.

I don't know if y'all know that. I wasn't aware of me. Yeah, killers are wearing body suits now. Like motorcycle body suits? Like just straight. like bashing over the body suit the American old American apparel body suits yeah niggas is wearing over

Where are they hiding the gun In the snap in the middle Hey yo I The snap We're told to y'all soon Be safe be blessed Have a good week

I'm that nigga he's just ginger A razor blade under your tongue going into your Your gooch in a body suit Is a wild transition of generations Maul you be on snapping girls When girls have the body suit snap Might as well keep all those. Oh, my God.

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