New Rory & MAL - Episode 315 | Tyler 'CHROMAKOPIA' vs Tyler 'Love Is Blind' (feat. Clay)

Episode Date: October 29, 2024

We’re back! Happy Tuesday! We start this episode by giving some flowers to legendary DJ Clarke Kent (1:43). Rory immediately goes from love to smoke, addressing journalist Toure’s comment towards Mal, while calling him out on some allegations (6:19). Tyler The Creator has dropped his latest project, and the guys give their review off their first listen, with Rory clearing up his statement on Patreon that is receiving criticism from the hip-hop community (12:45). Lil Durk has been arrested in connection to a murder-for-hire plot, and the guys have some things to say to the people on the internet about the rhetoric surrounding the case (30:30). We then have our Love Is Blind correspondent, Clay Gravesande, join us to give his thoughts on the latest season (46:45). He gives his thoughts on the lasting couples, the Tyler & Ashley debacle that’s taken the internet by storm (1:00:52), his current standing with Willow Ryder after the previous drama (1:35:02), and how he feels about AD being on a new dating show (1:41:14).  We have voicemails! A man wants to know if we knew about the group trend of men sharing underwear (1:45:00), + more!Earn points by paying rent right now when you go to https://joinbilt.com/RORYMAL. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoicesSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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No. Who shot your mouth ties like Sinatra. Peruvians tried to do me in. I ain't paid them yet. Trying to put 700s. They ain't made them yet. Rolex and bracelets. Big.

Wrift two niggas run away Call me Igloose sticks All right. All right. All right. Where you're from? We're going out for all. Mossie.

You don't stop. Best style. Uh-huh. You won't stop. Nigger. What? Roe. Joe's me.

Big small. So nigga shit to drawls. Brooklyn represent. All right. Yes. We are back. Some things have changed. A lot of things have changed.

It seems like things changed very fast soon as we cut these cameras off. Okay. You're talking to something specific or just in general? Because things have changed. Things are always changing. Just in general. As Callet would say, I've changed a lot.

Yeah. Calid has changed a lot. He's changed a lot. Well, first of all, I think it's only right that we start the show off by sending a prayers and condolences, rest and peace, to the family of our beloved brother, mentor, one of the heroes of our culture, one of the pillars of our culture,

DJ Clark Kent, passed away the other day. And, you know, that was somebody who we had a personal relationship with, personal history with. Absolutely. A very close friend of the family. It's just one of those guys that I think in our culture that, you know, I don't think we understand the magnitude of this loss just yet because it's so new and so fresh. But this is a big loss. This is a big loss for the hip-hop community.

the hip hop world. I don't know anybody that has a story with Clark Kent or about Clark Kent that isn't something positive, that isn't something uplifting, something that gave you, you know, the energy and the positivity to move forward and to leave the culture better than you found it. And DJ Clark Kent definitely did that. You can't tell a story of hip hop, the history of hip hop without mentioning DJ Clark Kent somewhere along the way. So we want to send prayers and condolences to the family. And we love you, Clark. We're going to miss you. But definitely we'll keep your name alive in this culture forever.

And I think mentor was the biggest word out of everything that you said. He was definitely a mentor to me. Unfortunately, with his passing, watching everyone have very similar stories about Clark. He was always the first person to put his arm around you. Everyone had that same story. And I can say that, Pete, you know, with Paloosa. Clark, it was guru and Clark with the first two people to like validate us to be the first people from the quote unquote industry to come in and say, yo, I'm going to make sure whatever y'all

need. I got you. I see the talent. I see what this is. I see the movement. I'm going to make sure I can do whatever I can for you. Nothing in return. Never ask for anything whatsoever.

One of the kindest people I've ever met like someone that you think we scream and debate on this podcast. Yeah. I can't even count. the amount of times me and Clark can't have screamed in each other's face. Yeah. Just because we love hip hop. Just arguing non-stop.

My last conversation with him, which had to do with you, was us screaming about Kendrick and Drake. Yeah, yeah. That was the last, you know, combo we had. And I can't say enough about him. It definitely hit me crazy. Not to say that I wasn't waiting for this day, you know, because I was privy to a little bit of information before.

it was just it was rough to the point my therapist called me off the clock because I'd already talked about you know the situation with her and this this one was rough for me

outside of what he's done for hip hop he has he's changed the world there's very few people you can say legitimately the world was one thing and then when he showed up the world changed and that's Clark Kent but his friendship

to me with that that's you know that's a really really hit me over the weekend yes it was a rough day and it's gonna continue to be one of the most beautiful people I've ever met definitely without a doubt

and I know a lot of people say that shit when people pass he's legitimately one of the most genuine human beings that's ever walked this earth he doesn't ask for shit from anyone and continues continued his whole career to just put people in places they wouldn't be

So yeah, again, I'm bad with this stuff, especially when it's people that I really did love dearly. So rest of peace to Rodolfo Franklin, but known to the world and loved by the world as DJ Clark Kent God's favorite DJ. We will miss you. Love you forever, bro. How was everyone else this weekend? It was cool. I dropped the YouTube channel. Okay. Congrats. Thank you.

Thank you. Two vlogs are available. Now you're in one of them, being fucking annoying. Okay. Yeah. That's typically what I do on YouTube. Yeah. Yeah.

If you follow this page. Yo, it was tough in that green room outside of that. It's just watching the Yankees tank both nights in a row. That was my weekend, watching the Yankees get clapped up. That game won. They're cooked. But game one deflated the whole thing. We'll be all right.

Nah. We'll be fine. Have faith. I don't. All right, since that took the mood down, I'll get us back up. Yo, Toray got a weird case. Why is he around? Yo, Toray, if you want to talk about Mall,

oh, shit. Then don't ask your fucking coworkers if they like anal. Like, you can talk about Mall if you don't have a creepy fucking pass. Shut the fuck up, Toray. I understand your resume. It's cool. And you may have some weird shit because we passed on you being on the show. But don't talk about Mall.

with Vlad when you are asking people that work for you if they like anal. So just stop, man. Just shut the fuck up, Torre. I get it. You have done a lot in journalism and I respect all of that. I think you're one of the last journalists. But don't speak about my man's when you're asking makeup artists if they like anal. Shut the fuck up.

Stop on this moral high ground shit. You've done nasty fucking shit, Torre. I don't know what's happening. I'm writing for you, man. No, no. No, I'm right. Respect. Respect. No, respect.

We'll fill you in later. No, that's peace. That's love. Somebody got to tell me with Tori's. Cool. If people want to say anything about Maul, whatever, we can laugh about all that type of shit. Don't speak about Maul's name when you ask makeup artists if they like anal. Shut the fuck up. But what she said? But what is Toro?

She said he's a nasty fuck and I was extremely uncomfortable. And he's supposed to be the morale police that walks around trying to speak up for women. Meanwhile, you're doing nasty shit as well. shut the fuck up Torre. If Ma wants to like Drake, cool. Stop asking women if they like anal. Wait, that's what- There's a big difference here.

That's what Torre is told about. All Mall does is like Drake's music. You ask people that don't like you if they want to do anal. Shut the fuck up. Wait, Toray is talking to Vlad about me liking Drake? Yeah. I saw it this morning.

Just trying to get them around. It was on Vlad. There was a clip that Roy played earlier before we started recording it. He basically was saying the beef was never close. There's this whole conversation as if Kendrick and Drake, it was, it was a who's responding next as if that would determine who the winner is. Vlad mentioned within the first two minutes, I think it was closer than people thought.

Like, it was close. And then Toray, who is the all expert of hip hop, was like, oh, that's disgusting that you would ever say that. Only someone like, like, Mal, who's like a super Drake Stan would ever say something stupid like that. My name is, okay, you also ask women that don't like you for Amos. My name is not Jamal. My name is Jamal. They call me more. I was in CVS again and they called me mal. I said, I'm not mal.

And neither is more. Neither am I. And I'm picking up medication. You see my name. So Torre, Hey, Tori, I'll slap the shit out you, well. Awesome G shit, Toray. You got me fucked up.

I'm being, I'm gonna have to slap a nigga. 2025, a nigga getting slug. No, I'm just joking. Toray, but why he came at me like that, though? I don't know. What do you say fuck me for? What do you say fuck me for, Tori? And the funny thing is, I was gassing,

we didn't pass, like, schedules didn't match or whatever. Like, he asked to come on our show, and I wasn't, I was with it. It just didn't work with our schedule and was left at that. He said, I was, I was with it. According to the woman. I understand he has done a lot in hip-hop journalism. Like, I revere what he's done in that regards.

I just don't like people speaking on my man's name when they have, like, weird cases. Oh, this is way worse than what Rory's saying. She left a comment explaining. exactly what he said. And she said I used to work on a show in 2017 and he couldn't stop asking me to do anal, which Roy detailed. Then he also added, which Roy detailed is hilarious. How do I look naked if I had sex over the weekend? What it would look like to fuck me? What has come would look like on my face? If I ever had the crew stay in the room with me while I got him ready, what if I left? Like, he was just, you know, nasty. He said, she said when I left, when I left, I call HR. He got,

he got fired immediately. All right. So he got a weird case. Why is he around? I'm asking what my come, yo, I wonder what my cum would look like on your face. Like, while I'm, like, trying to do your makeup is crazy. And Torre is the exact person that would say that Drake lost. He's also the exact person that would say, which I'm fine with, believe all women. So, all right, should we believe her, Toray? Because if that's the case, you shouldn't be around. Listen, man.

What? What, what? I just want to know what he said, fuck me for, man. That's all right. I'd be mind of my business, man. All right, Tori, whatever. His cleanup DMs are fucking hilarious Please read them I didn't dig this deep

No he's like I was genuinely asking you as a friend As a friend You fucking loser The Aitori is definitely that guy Like he'll put LOL on the end of it Just to seem like he's joking Like I want to put it in your butt LOL

I didn't want you to feel like comfortable But you can't do that in person When someone's putting makeup on your face And they're just right here and you're going Yo you want anal? Like no LOL can't get you out that situation Jesus, bro.

Do you say L-O-L or do you, like, laugh? You don't say that. Torre says L-O-L. He says L-O-L-L-L out loud. You like, A-N-O-L-L-A. Can I come on your face? L-O-L. I don't know if that's how that works, Toray.

On Vlad. Whatever. Thank you for that, though, Roe. No, I just, I saw it this morning on the way here. I was... See, that's why this works, because you see the shit that I would never click on. See?

Even when my name was attached to it. I'm not clicking on that. What's funny is I didn't see the clip as like someone tweeted it like, yo, he brought up more. I have, which I've admitted. I have Vlad in my algorithms. I've been critical of him, but I also do like some of his content. And I saw it, Toray, who I respect as a journalist. I think the headline was shitting on Vlad.

That's probably why I clicked it. Like, Toray tells Vlad he's a lame. And I was like, all right, let me click it. And then your name gets brought up and, no, I'm not. I'm not with that. I appreciate that. I don't like that type of shit. You ride together.

You die together. I mean, let's stay a lot. Part is for life. we could also move into other shit like I love potting I want to do it for a very long I'm not going anywhere but like for the rest of my life

yeah yeah I want to move on to like other shit eventually I want to get out of him sooner than later but after I clicked that Vlad interview and was was seething through the fucking holland tunnel like

where's Torre and you pronounce his name wrong right that's what I'm really mad at but anyway and you can't have the same name as a great rapper Tori I don't even like that. Yeah, I feel you. You get confused. Like, now people think the Rappertories is

asking for anal. I then put on Tyler's album, which probably had some anal stuff in there. Oh, for sure. Buffneck rucks, right? Hot butt sex with buffnecks. Flex was so confused. Flex has never been so confused

to his life. Like, you know, why? Whoa, why would you take it there? Why would that be the bar you went with? All right. I think it's unfair to an artist like Tyler to give any type of review, because we're recording this on a Monday. The album came out today this morning at 6 a.m. I will start with saying that I love the experiment, experiment, experience at 6 a.m. Monday to drive to work with a new album. I think that's way cooler than Friday. I want to start with that.

I love it off the wake up. That was really cool, especially an artist like him to start Monday, Monday, morning with a new album rather than a Friday. So out the gate, love that. I gave it two listens, and again, I'm not, I don't want to be held to any of my words on my instant review. Yeah. But I think it's okay to give quick instant reviews on certain shit off first listen. I was confused as fuck and I think maybe that's a good thing. It's all over the place. And I'm not saying that in a bad way. I've just, with Tyler for his last four albums, I've felt like he's honed in on a certain sound and a certain message and a certain idea and stayed to it all the way through.

I hate to really do like sequencing cohesive because those are all buzzwords, but he's the master at that. This one I don't even fucking know. It's a bunch of great music, but it's all over the place, which is, again, unfair for an artist like this off one or two listens. I think by Thursday I'll have better thoughts, but I was confused. Maybe that was a fucking point. Who was some of the features on there? Wayne's sexy red and glowrilla are on a get buck sample

so you know my G unit ass was excited. Sticky is the name of that record. Sticky was fire. There's all school boy Q goes crazy. Dochi. Great verse. Up for debate for one of the best verses of the year. So there's good features on there, but

Childers Gambino. Tizo, Gambino, Daniel Caesar, those round out the rest of the features. I like those features. Features are great. They fit really well too. Like really, really well. Again, I think it's unfair.

But that was just my initial reaction was, okay, that was a lot. This is a lot to process. It's a fucking full roller coaster of emotions throughout the entire thing. And there are a lot of heavy records, ones that you need to definitely live with. Like, Darling Eye, it's very heavy.

As is take your mask off. Tomorrow's great. I just think, like, yeah, a lot of these, to Rory's point, like, Tyler doesn't really, make passive albums, you really need to sit and listen with them, especially this one, contributing so many different sounds. I listen to it this morning of the gym. I'm going to probably leave the studio today and go home and listen to it four more times. Like, it's one of those. I just

want to, before I say anything rash or like irrational, I just want to give it a fair shake. But initial listen, I liked it. But there's a lot going on. For sure. Okay. Well, I haven't listened to it yet, but I like Tyler, so I'll definitely listen to it tonight. And I love that I have all the weekdays to live with it. Yeah. Instead of like the weekend, like, oh, fuck, it's Monday now. Let me try to get into this album.

I hope more people do Monday. I always love, like, when we get new music and I have to travel. Yeah. Like, I love getting new music and I have to have to travel. That's my favorite time to take in new music. But definitely going to check this album out. I love what he's been doing artistically around it. He had, what was it, the session at the end.

Intuit Dome. Yep. The other night, Chromacopia, I guess the lime green, that's the marketing that they're doing behind the whole thing. The set looked great.

But Tyler, we talked about it with last week. Tyler is, he's one of the most creative and artistic people that we have in this culture. So we expect every time we see him, every time he gives us

his new installation or his new piece to his art. It's always going to be an experience. So chromocopia seems to be fitting that so far. I haven't gotten into the music just yet, but visually, everything I've been seeing so far is on par for what Tyler usually does. And he used his mom on one or two interludes with Call Me If You Get Lost, but more in like a funny way.

And his mom does sound like she's hilarious. Like I know that mom. She's one of those. Used her again and got into some deeper stuff. I've never heard a woman publicly tell their son, I purposely kept your father away from you. He's not the bad guy. I was young.

I was bitter. I was upset. You should not hate him. I kept your father away from you. I thought that was super heavy. And then it went into, again, this came out today. What's the name of that beautiful song that Tyler's talking about his dad?

Like him. goes into like him, yeah, it was, that was some heavy shit. I've never heard a woman admit that out loud. Like, we've all seen women do that. And we've called them out for it. I even think some of what three stacks talked about in life of the party, dug some deeper shit into that. Like, yo, is my father a shame that I took your name,

but you were a young girl. Like, this is, this was, it had to have been tough to even try to make that decision. I think that's something to be explored. Again, came out today, but that shit blew my mind for her to even have the balls to say that. I think that's beautiful that she was able publicly to also say that to her son. Yeah, that's a tough, I mean, when an artist jumps that deep into their personal life, I mean, it's honorable, number one, that they're willing to talk about that and put that out into the public.

But I think that it's part of what art is supposed to do. It's supposed to inspire, change, conversations, you know, supposed to impact life. And you're supposed to use that as a tool to kind of create your art. So, I mean, I'm a fan of Tyler, man. I like everything Tyler does. He's himself. He's not.

He doesn't sound like nobody else. He doesn't look like nobody else. I just appreciate that from any artist when they're not trying to give us something that we already have. They're being true to who they are. So I'm definitely all want to get into this. album and just kind of let it play a few times and take what I take from it. But I don't know, man, y'all don't sound like y'all were too thrilled on the first few. I like it. I like it. I really

did like it. It's just a lot to unpack. All right, with Igor and Call Me When You Get Lost, I immediately love those. I actually am on the side in a few years. I think it'll be safe to say Igor is a classic album. Call me to Get Lost. I loved Out the Gate. Still stays in rotation. This one was just like It's heavy. It's a lot. Okay. Even production-wise, it's tough, not in a bad way, but it's going to take a second. I think to really deal with it.

It's a lot. All right, I'm going to check it out. I'll definitely have some more to add to that. But either way, chromocopia tile of the creator is available now on your DSPs. And I'm sure they'll jump in the comments and let us know that. They've been killing me all day in the comments about. So we had an amazing conversation on Patreon. on Patreon.com forward slash

New Rory Mall about Tyler that came out today on Monday. Part of that conversation, I said the West Coast just started claiming Kendrick and we clip that up. I'm sorry, Tyler. And they have been smoking me all fucking day. Yeah?

Hell yeah. Yeah, they said What the Tori have to say about that? You're like anal? Twitch, Tyler would probably say. He asked Tyler if he loves anal. Yeah. I don't know if you have to ask that.

Ah, you don't know. He might not bottom. He could be a top. He said hot butt sex. I mean. Then Elliot picked it up. I got killed in Elliot's comments. Anytime you getting smoked in your own comments and then other places pick it up just to like add on to the shit always sucks.

But I'm not going to blame this one on page, nor am I going to backtrack. I had a few calls with some people from the West Coast this morning, which I thought was crazy. Because it's a three hour of time difference. I'm like, are you just leaving the club? Like, how the fuck you see in this clip it? at 5 a.m. over there. I was more talking about media. Like, I don't think that Tyler's gotten his just-do

the way YG, Tai, Nip, like a lot of artists from the West Coast, most of TDE, schoolboy, they were revered a little different with the West Coast media personalities. Whereas Tyler has not. That was really what I was getting at. Because I saw a bunch of people, like, look at that.

They call me the R-word. alliteration I get it though so it's cool I'm not saying the skater kids in Pasadena were not loving odd future in 2011 you didn't say nobody in on the West Coast clearly they had a huge movement and it started in the West Coast I'm saying on a media platform

you West Coast media personalities are finally now feeling comfortable in the last five years three years to say yo I like Tyler because I was not doing that before and don't lie to me because I pay attention to all the media. Yeah. I'm not saying in Englewood, they didn't love Tyler. I wasn't there. Wasn't told about y'all. We know in the media who was never claiming him. And now they love him.

Well, I mean, it's hard not to. Again, he's one of the dopest artists we have. So, I mean, it makes sense. And he's, his career is just elevated to a different level to at this point. Like, he's, he's more of a household name. How long have they been doing camp flogging on? They've been doing that for some years. This is their... Is it... Was it the 10? 10 year anniversaries this year? Yeah. So he's had that movement.

That was crazy. No, it's... Odd Future and Tyler have had a movement since 2010. Since, yeah, 2010, 2009, maybe. I'm talking about the media, blogs, everything. They was not jacking that shit.

They was calling it weird and corny. Oh, well, we know. It was definitely calling it that. They called it at the Grammys. There was a line on the... Matter of fact, Frank made a lot of that odd future shit palatable to the... mainstream media like, oh, he's from that click, so maybe we should accept them.

Yeah. Which is like, all right, man. There was a line on the second record of the album. He said, it's really odd future. All the niggas is whacked out. The biggest out the city after Kenny, that's facts now. Referring to him in Odd Future being the second biggest thing out of L.A. behind TDE. Do you guys have any thoughts about that?

I think it's the only three I can, four. Wu-Tang, Odd Future, Native Tongues, dungeon family. I can't think of clicks that have that many people that are that successful outside of them. That has a crew that big. I see your wheel spinning.

Did you say NWA? Yeah, but that's three people. Is it? No, it wasn't. If you go down the family tree of everything that came from Drey, Cuban Easy, yeah, you have a crazy family tree, but if you look at the collective of nine people from Staten Island and Brooklyn

being friends as kids and doing what they did, seeing what native tongues did. And I mean, granted, that was a super, super group between De La Cuelea, Queen Latifah, tribe, everyone. I don't even know if they even count yet because they were really like Danos. But odd future, they were just a bunch of kids in the L.A. area that came together

and formed something. and if you look through this list. I mean, this is. Like Steve Lacey's part of this. Like what? Yeah. I don't even know where to begin when you talk about the odd future empire.

Taco. And Dungeon Family would be next there. Those are only people I can really like think of when it comes to crews that were really just came up together in their city. Yeah. Yeah. How could you not put Odd Future next to names like Wu Tang, next to names like Dungeon Family?

I don't think it's impossible. You know, I was just trying to think. but definitely from what I'm thinking of now, they're definitely, shit, they might. I don't know if I'm going to say they number one, but. And like, do you count Vince being part of that click?

Yes. So yeah, like, yeah, that's tough. That's a strong crew. Yeah. I mean. I know old heads don't want to hear that because I understand.

Wu Tang to me is the blueprint of everything. From fashion to sound to raps to, lifestyle, they are... Longgevity. They are it. But how could you not say that about Odd Future? Yeah. So, yeah, when Tyler says on the album,

it's Odd Future and that's it. I'm the second out of the city next to Kenny. Yeah. How was he not? He's been number two. I mean, as far as a crew, our future might be bigger than TDE. It says artists, as a collective...

But, like, see, TDE is a label to me. Like, even though I know Soul, Kendrick, J. Rock, like we're all a crew in the beginning. You know, schoolboy came a tiny bit later and then they made a label. Like odd future to me was a collective of friends

that just happened to make music and came up together. So I look at those a bit differently. It's tough to say with Cizzer right there. But then you also have Frank. So I... I'm just...

Tori may have a point, man. The list is it. You just hate TD. No, I don't. No, I'm just saying you got a collective of all of these talented artists. They check every box of underground, like, real hip-hop shit with everything that Earl does is so innovative. Then you have Tyler, who's an absolute superstar, but is still very much, he's a young Kanye in that regard, where you are still that rap nerd, but you make popular music. Frank, A-list, R&B artist.

then you go into Sid and the internet, Steve Lacey, Taco with acting. And Vince with rapping and acting. I think Vince in the last three years may have the best discography of any rapper period in the last three years. Jasper with acting too. Jasper just did the last jackass film.

It's tough. These guys are their branches, their roots are far beyond just the initial, you know, crew. And I mean, outside of that, just like Domo, Mike G, left brain, like those are all extremely talented artists in their own right. But I'm just trying to think of like the main mainstream. Casey veggies.

Like let's not act like Taco wasn't one of the main cast members on one of the biggest shows we've seen in quite some time. Dave. Yeah. I don't know, man. I could never go against Wu Tang, but it's a combo that we had. Well, either way, our future is on that tier. they're in that conversation with some of the greatest crews that we've ever had in our culture. Yeah, the only, the jackass rebrand.

The only new person they added was Jasper. It was Jasper. Like one of the most iconic TV and movie series of all time. They were like, yeah, give us Jasper, that's it. And, I mean, as a kid that grew up on Chappelle's show in that era, something that was more like from kids our age, the Loiter Squad was incredible. like these guys have been creating stuff outside of just music that's also been great

we have a uh we have a funny sketch that never came out with earl that parodied loiter squad and we decided just not to put it out because we were positive we're trying to rise above mine elevation i sat with moor after we did the edit i was like this is hilarious man but this saying I'm not about to make my life defined by this shit. Just no way. I think our first or second episode we did with Earl and we did a sketch. We can't put it on Patreon? No.

Man, that's just going to go up on Reddit, YouTube, Twitter, everything. It's only, it's not even, you can't even hack my eye cloud to get it. It's on a drive in my house. Yeah. And I have guns, so you can't get it that way. True. You guys stop saying that. No, I mean.

They just had the Nazi rally. at the garden. I'm good. Oh, okay, cool. Did the Nazis, like, fuck with the Irish? Hell, no. I didn't think so. Okay. No one fucked with the Irish. Yeah, we know y'all were slaves, too.

We get it. Do you know what we went through? I knew that was coming. By order of the peaky fucking blinders. Well, check out Tyler's album. I'm excited to talk about it on our second episode this week. I'm going to really do a deep dive into everything. I'm going to check it out tonight, Tyler,

so I can come and hit Thursday and shit on you. But there's, because he's West Coast, right? But there's no way that we couldn't bring up that his album came out today because I love the Monday move. No, shout out to Tyler, created, Chromacopia. Available on your DSPs now. Stream that. I'm going to catch Tyler.

I'm going to catch one of his shows eventually. Before we get into the Nazi rally at the Garden, how do we want to approach this dirt thing? Free smart. No. No. No. Approach it.

What? I hate to be that person of like, I'm not surprised. He's been rapping about it. Stop texting crimes to your friends. Is that what happened? I thought his friend wore a wire. Well, one of them did, yes. Demaris is right.

One of the OTF members did become an informant and wear a wire. Okay. To fill in everyone that was probably under a rock the entire weekend. I think on Thursday or Friday, Dirk was picked up by the U.S. Marshals, and he was arrested for murder for hire in Florida, which he is going to be flown to L.A. where the crime happened. There was somebody from OTF. I don't remember his name. He wore a wire on Dirk after he did 12 years, and Dirk paid for his lawyers, got him a fucking car when he got out, held him down, everything.

This gentleman wore a wire. Obviously, U.S. Marshals are privy to ICloud, and they found text messages of Dirk saying, don't purchase any shit under this OTF card, a bunch of incriminating shit that added up exactly to what the crime happened in front of the fucking Beverly Center. Yeah, it was like, it was the car rental, the hotels, everything that the whole trip was funded on a card

that linked directly back to those guys. And what's crazy is I'm not a criminal at all, but I've watched enough like Netflix series where I think maybe I could outsmart the government. I wasn't even mad at Dirk's move of booking the flight to Dubai, booking the flight to some other location, and then getting the private joint to Italy. Like, let me put my passport on this shit,

and hopefully the feds will go to that flight that I'm not going to. I saw the strategy. But if you're thinking that way, you don't think they have access to your ICloud and your credit cards or anything else. Like, what the fuck are we doing here? I just don't. I don't get why you would think you could get away with that.

As somebody that has lost a brother to street violence and gun violence, I'll be the first to say I understand. Because it's a tough thing to bury a loved one that was murdered. And in this case, shared on the internet, then you got people saying, oh, you're supposed to be a gangster, and nobody ain't slide yet, and all this other corny shit that people like to do when you talk about somebody's life being taken. So then you have somebody like Dirk, who is now in a place in his life where he's successful,

you know, taking care of people, things like that. And then ultimately this falls on his lap because, again, he is the head of the family. He's the breadwinner. So, yeah, it's fucked up because on one hand, what does he specifically? supposed to do. They kill your brother. They share the video on the internet. You got, you know, other rappers laughing and, you know, people in the comments saying what they're saying. And yeah, he's sly yet and all this other corny shit that people like to throw in the mix when you're talking about a life being lost. And then we end up with a gentleman who is a Grammy-winning

artist now facing potentially the death penalty because allegedly, you know, he wanted to revenge for the killing of his brother. I didn't really like that narrative, though, that people are saying that the internet tricked Dirk out of his spot. And again, we have no idea what really happened this entire thing. Yeah, no. We're just talking about just due process with everything that's going on. Of what we do know.

But I don't think Dirk looked at internet comments in the environment he's been from before he was a rapper and thought, I need to slide because of internet comments. I think a lot of y'all on the internet are a little error. in the role that you play in people's lives. I think as someone that also this year was a Paul Bearer for a very close friend that died from gun violence that we never even spoke about at all on this pod. The anger there, and I'm not from that environment whatsoever, but I know what that anger feels like, and he's from that environment.

He didn't need y'all on the internet to go there. Like, all you other fucking podcasters, bloggers, all that shit, you guys are not as important as you think in other people's lives. I don't think Dirk went, yo, them IG comments about Vaughn is crazy. I had to do something. Like, shut the fuck up. No, it's not. You're not weird.

You're not fucking weird. It's not that. It's the fact that people would sit online and kind of champion them doing something to retaliation. But you're championing of retaliation. You're wanting to see a retaliation happen. And again, I want to choose my words wisely, but I don't think Dirk needed them.

No, not. Nobody's saying he needed anybody for anything. I think Moss point, is y'all are lame for doing that shit. Oh, no. We're on the same point. When I'm speaking to is on one hand, people say, oh, Dirk ain't slide.

He ain't do this. They ain't get back. And then when this comes out and this happens, oh, Dirk is stupid. Oh, he crashed out. He was supposed to stay away from it. It's like, what the fuck of y'all?

What are y'all talking about, man? Like, just think about the severity the other situation. This this gentleman is facing potentially life in prison or the death penalty. This is what this is what murder for hire. This is what this carries. Hey, with rapper talk about guns. These are federal guidelines. These are federal guidelines that you just can't, it is what it is. So I say, again, prayers to dirt, prayers to his family, no matter what side of this you want, right or wrong. It's a sad situation all the way around. And that's just the bottom line here.

And again, as somebody who has lost loved ones to street violence, I understand the emotion of retaliation. And I understand what that energy is when it's on you. And all you can think about is the loss of your loved one. And you want somebody to fill your pain. And you want to somebody got to pay for what they did. I understand that energy very well. and it takes a lot to kind of

avoid that energy and becoming a victim of that energy but at the same time I understand when you do become a victim of that energy and you do retaliate and you do try to avenge the loss of a loved one because that's just part of this fucked up cycle is if somebody hurts me I got to hurt them

if I lose one you got to lose one And that's what the conversation should be. Because again, you're talking about a Grammy winning artist. This is somebody who has a lot of success. There's a lot of things going on. A lot of great things happening in their life. And now all of that comes to a stop.

And you may be potentially, you know, in a fucking cage for the rest of your life. But again, on one hand, I understand it. Because I know what that energy can feel like, when you're alone and you know you have those thoughts and emotions running through you and you know it's hard to you know it's hard to stay away from that and i mean i appreciated quando's post um i mean i hated that so many outlets use that for more clickbait like quando ends the little dirt beef but i mean i appreciated his post of saying you know we didn't get into this business to do this we got into this business to not do it.

And it sucks, because he spoke. He has a lot of trouble with forgiving people that have wronged him, i.e., probably harming some of his family, but this can't keep going. Like, what the fuck are we going to do here? This isn't why we became successful. It sucks that this post had to happen at this point when a couple people are now dead and a whole other group is indicted. I wish this would have happened prior to, but

I mean, I appreciated that Kondo at least hosted in that time. I don't know if it was sincere, but I mean, I I did get it. I also like watched, we laughed about Kondo's interview with Angela Yeek when you just kept saying Ms. Ma'am and like, isn't that? It was, it was hilarious, but what we also talked about was

you, I could hear the pain in his fucking fucking voice. Like, that was a traumatic fucking situation. When I was at Atlantic, I worked with Kwando. And this Vaughn's passing happened when I was at Atlantic. And I was tasked with the rest of his team as like, how do we still put out music? Like, what does this look like moving forward with the situation that happened? And it was rough. And you could see, because I did spend a bit of time with him as well, it like it fucked him up and he did like quietly start to like turn to religion and kind of become more of a recluse during that time.

But yeah, I mean I think what you're describing, Roy, I think it's like it's authentic. Like he, you could tell like this shit, it just wasn't anything that he didn't want any of this to happen. I mean, shit, the murder for hire case that happened with him in L.A. That was his cousin that was killed with him in that car. And he watched his cousin get murdered. targeting him at the same time. Yeah, you were the target. You watched your cousin die.

Now you're responsible. Someone tried to kill me and now I got to tell my aunt that your son is dead because someone was trying to kill me. It's all on camera. You see the door open and the body felt like it's just graphic and awful. I haven't spoken to Kwondo in quite some time. But yeah, it's just this. No one wants this shit to happen.

I get it to your point. Like it's cool for the blogs, the fans. It was like, yeah, hip-hop, violence, all this. This shit sucks. It's stupid. Well, it's so much more deep-rooted than just hip-hop or anything like that. As much as I think how this entire back-and-forth allegedly started, I think, yes, one could look at this and say this was pointless,

but it's way more deep-rooted than that. Like, I get it. I understand why people are saying, this started because they was arguing over a chick. Like, what the fuck? How do we even get here? Cool, but that shit is so much more deep-rooted. than poverty.

If y'all think that was just two people arguing over a chick, you have completely missed the last 150 years of what the fuck has been going on. Yeah. And there's a level of paranoia that comes with this. Like, you know, whether or not it was always hot, like, even when Kwanta would come to New York, like, you can just see the constant, always looking over your shoulder, always feeling like you have, you know, who's this or what's that you.

You're just, you're living in a state of constant paranoia, and that is just, it's taxing. Your mind never, you never have the ability to just shut off and just relax. I mean, there's, it's so much shit that, you know, but. But either way, the bottom line is, you know, something, something needs to change. Something needs to happen. And I love, you know, what Cuando has been, you know, he found religion, you know, he's a Muslim now. You know, Dirk is a Muslim. So it's good to see, you know, these young men find religion and find, find God through the trauma and through the life, their life obstacles and things like that.

But we got to do something before it has to get to that. Yeah. Because it's just, it's just, it's almost like, you know, we've lost, so many people that we've talked about that we've lost in this culture due to gun violence that we don't even remember. Like we don't even speak about it anymore. It's been so many people. And it's scary when you think about it because it's like, like so this person is just forgotten. Like we don't speak about these people anymore.

You know, we lost them. We watched some of them die because people love, you know, spreading that on social media, but certain words I can't say on this mic, but we can spread death and people bleeding out, you know, losing their life on social media. You got to start this, you got to take a step back and just kind of assess.

what exactly are we doing and what is happening because, you know, it's real life things that are taking place. This Dirk situation is very, very serious. This isn't something to just sit on a podcast and talk about, you know, create a YouTube video or stream and try to put the pieces to the puzzle. This is not, you know, we try to make it seem so entertaining. And this is, this is not for entertainment. This is real life. This is lives of being lower. lost. People are dying. Young men are dying. Young women are dying. People are doing, you know, life in prison. This is not a joke. This is not a game. And, you know, I know people are going to scroll and continue to do what the fuck they want to do and make the records and the music and the videos they want. And that's what you're supposed to do. That's your life, you know, but something, something has to be done because, you know, a situation like this is you start talking about murder for hire. you know, like cross the street from the Beverly

side. We got to start having some effective. I don't know which people need to be in the room and which people need to call you know, put this thing together. But it needs to happen because this shit is it's reached, you know, this is the

highest of levels that I can possibly think about when you talk about you know, a Grammy award winning artist is now facing these charges. It's like, what the fuck is going on right now. So again, you know, prayers to dirt. Prays to Cuando Rondo, his family.

Prays to all the lives that was lost. Vaughn's family. Vaughn's family. You know, this shit is not, it's not entertaining to me because I'm somebody who has dealt with my losses in the streets and things like that. So it's none of it is entertainment to me. I don't laugh at none of it.

I don't even like to speak on it because, again, it feels like I'm kind of trying to monetize off of this shit. And that's the last thing I'm trying to do. but I understand that people want to hear some people talk about it. I just want the shit to change. I want to see, you know, people live out their dreams, create their art,

travel to world, have fun, do fly shit, scrolling on Instagram and seeing somebody is dead or facing a murder-for-hire case and things like that. I don't want to see that shit. I don't care to see it. I don't want to see it. And I hate anybody that got to deal with that shit.

I, you know, that's, I can only imagine what Dirk is, is, dealing with emotionally and just, you know, thinking about right now in his cell. Like, that's, this is some of the worst shit ever. This story is tragic all the way around. So prayers to all of the young brothers and sisters, man. And hopefully we can get this shit right, man, because we got way too much access and way too much too many outlets to do different things now.

This is not like back in the days where, you know, you only could be working at the post office or fucking milk, man. You can be whatever you want to be. You can make a lot of money out here. You can do travel the world and have a great time. And this is the last thing anybody needs to be facing as a murder for hire case. All right, y'all.

Well, it's that time of year again. Our favorite time of year where we find out exactly how blind love is. It'll take over your mind. Love is Blind season 7 just ended last week. And look at us lucky guys. We are blessed to have our, I guess it's like our love is blonde correspondent at this point.

Senior correspondent? Senior correspondent. That's when the big bucks start rolling in. once they put senior in front of your title. We are joined by our guy, Clay, Gravesandy. Great, Clay, what's up, man. What's up, what's up? Appreciate y'all.

You've been taking care of yourself, I'm saying? Yeah, yeah, I've been taking care of myself. I'm an expert of love is blind, no, I'm saying. So, senior, no, you definitely are expert. Still can't see. Or the complete opposite of the expert. That's the expert. That's the experts I like.

I need an expert. Hey, listen, I got warning for the men that's getting ready to join Love is blind. I feel like they need to hollied me before they ever join the show, you know what I'm saying? Because I went through different spectrum. You'll get them tutorial? Yeah, yeah, yeah, I got the good, I got the bad. I feel like I could, I'm definitely well-rounded. This is your Big Brother's Big Sisters program.

You're going to mentor everyone that goes into the show. Well, not the guys that get married. I always say they should not talk to me, but the ones that don't, they should definitely. I appreciate the self-awareness. Okay, I like that. I like that. The ones that's not getting married, come talk to Clay. He'll help you get your feet up under you and be ready to go back out into the world after the pods.

Before we start, I have to say, I think you owe Demaris an apology, a formal one. Okay. I don't remember what happened, but I mean. I must have been like, I was thinking, I'm like, damn, I was watching the pod. I was like, damn, I was a little hot, you know what I'm saying? Okay. Accountability, Damaris? I'm going to say this, man.

That starts with an apology. Growth. I'm going to say this, man. I'm a real sensitive guy, like, and I'm cool with that, you know what I'm saying? I'm a sensitive guy. Clay is still the same. There's been no growth. I saw, I love it.

I saw a couple episodes and I was like, why she got so much smoke for me? Yeah. So, you know, the whifford kind of get in there. You start drinking. I'm like. So I see like, okay, she like the devil advocate. But I was kind of like, at the end of the day, we could have hung out and had a great time after that.

But I do apologize for my tone, Demaris. I'm looking right now. I apologize. He did the work, Demaris. He's going to work. He did the work. Here's the thing. Like I said, I always tell people I'm like,

I'm so many different things, bro. So I could definitely kind of be hot one day. And I'm like, you know what I'm saying? I was a little wild that day. And I acknowledge that, you know what I'm saying? I respect that. There's different layers, DeMaris. It's like an onion.

Yeah. Got to keep it. It's like Shrek. Use code Rory Mall and get 15% off. 15 or 50? 15, right? It doesn't matter. They don't want you to say it.

Yeah, matter of fact, shut up. They don't even allow you to do it. Don't tell them that I sent you. Tell them Rory sent you. Use code Rory and Rory only. Well, Damaris, I don't know. Did you accept the apology? We couldn't start without you feeling okay.

I would feel wrong. Damaris over there sipping on White Zinfandel, so she'll be, you know. White Zinfantale. Oh, yeah. On that 799, Riesling. That barefoot. Well, it's good to have you back, and I'm glad that all the air was cleared, and now you and DeMaris can get back to the best friends that you were destined to be.

Oh, yeah. Because you're both very toxic people. All right. Let's get into the Messies. So Love is Blind Season 7. It's over, it's ended. So I guess we can get into it. But I do want to start because when I started watching it, a friend of mine was like,

I want you to take notes and send me notes as you watch it because she was already almost finished. Yeah. So she was just laughing. It was like, I have to hear your thoughts. Have you ever taken notes before in your life, period? I take notes during the NBA finals. That's dedication right there. NBA finals.

You're like when I'm betting, when I'm gambling. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I probably sure start doing that. All right. What did you label this note? Love is Blind Season. S7. S7.

You got to put S7. All right, so I start with, I say, Nick Dork is a serial blind dater. Okay. This ain't his first rodeo. He's not looking for love. And he wore Nike ankle socks with high water dress pants. Production obviously made him take them off because suddenly they're gone.

Then I get into Tyler Yeah, then I get it to Tyler Tyler is definitely a fuck boy He has red suede shoes with a red jacket He's literally a red flag I remember that Ashley A seems like a true sweetheart That falls for fuck boys quite often

I love those She wants love but her discernment Might be a little skewed What Ashley looked like? This is them Ashley is she's pretty beautiful girl Yeah she's very beautiful Hannah is young

And seems like she's just getting over A little phase of dating the wrong guys She's smart but a little quirky and naive. She quit her job to find love. Leo seems like... What was her job? What job she...

And they call me a cloud chaser. Yeah, she... So she was unemployed. Yeah. That became a running... She was laid off. Roy, that became a running thing throughout the season.

Because who's leaving medical device sales for love? I'm sorry. I mean, most of the occupations when they introduce themselves sounds like they're unemployed. People are just making shit up as they go. I'm a marketing consultant for tech.

And it's like, I mean, I'll get it. Then I get into Leo. Just say you lost a lot of money in crypto. Like, it's fine. I say, Leo seems like he's looking for a real connection. Says he wants a woman that doesn't want him just for money. Hold on to that one.

Then I say, Brittany is a groupie. I hope none of these guys fall for her. She's literally calling herself a trophy wife. And she doesn't like to cook. Garrett is definitely looking for his next victim. He's a nerd. Leo looks very pro-Israel.

That's great. Nailed it. Nailed it. Yep, he's a Jew. All right. My pops taught me well. Taylor seems smart and secure. She likes Garrett,

and they seem like they have some chemistry. This is Taylor and Garrett, Roy. That's a cute couple. They look like they could be siblings. They're both very nerdy. They're both like a science brain. He's a physicist.

She did some shit with policy and engineering. But they were good. All right. They're just trying to like go through their whole phase at this point. You had a good job. They probably never had friends. And they did this to get some life experience. Yeah.

You're talking about the experiment. Yeah. You know, sometimes, bro, I'd be kind of wondering, like, why Love is Blonde be picking the cast that they be picking, bro. I don't be like, I don't know. But I'll be feeling like sometimes the guys don't have success with women. So this is their time. Like, the guys that be getting married, I'll be like the ones that like, like this is, this is it. This is it. This is it. Like, they can't go back to what they were doing before. Like, this is all and be all. It's a high volume choice, though, because if they want to stay on the show, and I think a lot of girls in the earlier seasons came on the show just because they wanted to be reality stars. I agree. They have to pick these guys to stay on the show, so it's a good choice. The one thing I do like about Love is Blind is I think that if you're truly there, whether or not it's, you know, you're socially awkward, you never really dated, you know, pretty successful women. I think that it's interesting because you have a mix of guys like yourself who may have done

well in the lady department before the show, dated pretty women, successful women, had your own thing going on. this is something that you're like, I'll try it. Not necessarily saying I'm going into it. Like, I'm definitely going to find love and get married. But like, let's see what happens. But then there's some guys on there that are like, no, I'm not coming out of this unless I'm married. Like, I'm going into it like, I'm going to find my wife.

And I think it's a balance of both of those type of men and women that they put into these parts. And then there's the third party of the guy that says, I want to get married and goes all the way to the altar. And then it's like, yo, I got something to do today. Like I can't. Then there's that guy. I don't know his name. I got to do the work. The only thing I'm going to say to that, man, is like, listen.

It's never not going to be funny to be. I'm sorry, I love you, but you're such an asshole. I know, man, I know, and I accept that too, man. I accept that, you know. Gross. I love it. I could be an asshole. I could be an asshole.

And I get it. And I'm a selfish guy. You know, at the end of day. You know, and I did love AD, but maybe I should have definitely been able to think about things from a foresight and a futuristic perspective. Just before the wedding. Before the wedding. Don't go all into the wedding. Just right before. You know, I told you,

I said, man, on that Wednesday, I thought I was going to get married, but I, you know, it was a Friday when the wedding came on. Oh, my God, that's great. I mean, my mind stayed on Wednesdays and Fridays is different. Yeah, it changed. It might have been something to do on it. Exactly. Yeah. A couple more. I said, Tim and Alex, no, Taylor seems smart, secure. Likes, Garrett earlier, they had some

chemistry. Tim and Alex seem like they have a connection. They seem like they would work well together. Then I get back to Leo. I said, Leo says he wants a woman that doesn't want him for his money, but he can't stop talking about his money. Brittany is about to lick this sucker like a lollipop. I said, Tyler has mommy issues. He might be a super fuck boy.

Why did you think Tyler had mommy issues? Oh, God. Did he straight up say I have mommy issues? I don't know if he ever said it, but I just, you know, when talking about family things, he gets very emotional and cries a lot. The velvet shirt did it for you, huh? Yeah, just the red with the red shoes. I was just like, all right, what are we doing?

He could be a noop. He could be. And then I said, Hannah seems a little insecure for sure. Her and Nick strangely seem like they'd be good for each other. Gotcha. Now, I did see one clip that was going viral on Twitter. Is Leo the same guy that was talking about his money, like with the fellas at the dinner table? Yeah.

Yeah. That was a sick clip. He has an inheritance. Yeah, then he did some, they did some super just something a man shouldn't do. they all passed around his Rolex and tried it on. Yeah, you never do that. I thought that was the nastiest thing in reality TV history. Oh, man.

I've seen some nasty things. Nastyer than me putting Logics ring on? That was nasty, but it was only because... I was being polite. Yeah, and then Logic had, you know, he had offered it. Yeah. Like, you know, this is... Oh, wait.

Only me and French. What kind of ring was this? No. ...didn't offer to pass around the loving Rolex? I don't know how it started. I think they were just talking about his Rolex. Yeah. And it just turned into, like, I guess it was a cut,

and everybody was just like wearing it, So I went out with Leo yesterday. I actually was with Leo and stuff like that. He's... Did he take you a York City? He taking the heart gallery? With the cameras there? No cameras.

It was a good time, man. Shout out to Leo. He was a cool dude, man. He said that the Rolex thing just kind of like just took off. It was like a very small moment in the pods. You know, because you're there for 10 days, you know? So he said it was a little small moment. He didn't even think that was going to be a major component of his storyline.

And yeah, no, no, he didn't think his Rolex was going to be a major component. He did not. He said he talked about it like one day and that was it, you know? Oh, but you know, that's the beauty in production. All right. They talked about the Rolex one day, but all he talked about was how wealthy and how much money and he was onto a private school. Like, he was like, I don't want this to be my personality, but then he made that his personality.

But you will hear me out though. If I'm in a competition, right, I got, you know, it's 15 dudes and I'm trying to get my one girl. I might tell my wife that, yo, these niggas is broke. These niggas is broke. I got money. I got Rolexes. I got inheritance. Like going into the par where you can't see the girl.

And then imagine when the screen comes up and his Shrek standing. You're a tow truck, I got Rolexes. Because the point of being that rich asshole is to marry the gold digger that looks amazing. Imagine having like an ugly ass gold digger. Oh my God. Now you just stuck not only with a girl that only likes you from money

and you don't even like her physical. Well, he got an option. He could say no. Yeah, true. He can. I mean, he is an art dealer. This was the one clip. He brought it up 10 times in that clip.

It's like, I brought it. You sell art. You deal art. This was the clip. Financially very well off. I'm not trying to build an influence her career. Like, I'm a more rich. fucking art deal like my like I grew up like I went to a country club went to private school my

college is paid for I'm incredibly financially I know that I know that type of guy I'm also like I'm incredibly financially it's like I would much rather have my problem than the problem of lack of money it's a really great lucky problem to have but I also it's scary because like oftentimes a girl may want me like because like does she just want me because she knows I'm like an art dealer and like I have like money and like I grew up fine right that 30 second clip was him every single at times he was on screen. That's the only clip I saw because it was viral on Twitter. Judging by his personality, that's the only thing a woman should want you for. Yeah.

Like, you seem like a very boring fucking person. And that's not fair because the 30 second clip. But you're saying if he brought this up the entire time, yeah, why wouldn't a woman just want you for your money? That's all you fucking talk about. Yeah. Hey, when you don't got the game, sometimes you got to overcomposate, you know? So, like, at the end of the day, like, y'all got to understand this is do or die. Like, if you don't got a connection, your ass is off the show.

I'm not mad at Leo for letting the dudes know like, yo, listen, I got money. I'm richer than y'all. And I'm telling my baby girl, who's a groupie, that I got the money. And this is my way of getting it. Because he made it with Brittany now. You know, it didn't go as plan when she's seen him.

Because, you know, you got to put the face to the mouth. You know what I'm saying? You know, so, you know, but, you know, it worked. He got engaged. Yeah. You know? So, Rory, they got engaged. And then, you know, after all the engagements,

they do the honeymoon trip. Yeah. Well, not the honeymoon. Whatever. They do the trip. one that's they didn't make it to the trip. They called it off

before they even called it all. They went to Miami together. Did you? He said he did. Because of Arbazel. Our basil.

Yes, good one. Well, our balsalser in December. Oh, actually could actually work because, yeah, our bouss in December, right?

Yeah. Yeah. What's your strategy, though, if you're scared women only want you for your money. So let's take away looks.

Yeah. But they can't see you in the pod and all you're talking about is your money. Yeah. So now you're putting yourself

in a situation, where literally no woman would want you except for the thing you fear the most. Right. Like they may like that cut. Like find a girl that finds you attractive. Yeah, but you got to remember at the end of the day,

a lot of these guys are still going. This is what the type of guy he is outside of the pot. These are conversations he's having. This is how he talks to women. This is the conversation he has. Once he's on a date with a woman, he's letting know what he does,

his family inheritance, things like that. He's doing the same thing in the pod. But that's what I'm saying. A lot of these guys, you know, away from the pies, they don't really have that type of connection with a woman that looks like Brittany like Leo probably never

spoke to a woman like Britney unless he was talking about money off the top because Britney is a type of girl off the top she walk in the room you're going to know like she's not here for Yeah play play She's getting right to the bag

He's used to just whatever girl The promoter in Miami introduces him to Yeah exactly And they can even hear each other over the music Right you know we know why she's there So Clay which couple Which couple when you were watching it Which couple did you

automatically say, I want them to go all the way. Tyler and Ashley, for sure. Tyler and Ashley. Yeah, so I don't care what the allegations is. I was team Tyler, team. Not allegation. Wait, wait, wait. What are the allegations? It's, it's, there's DNA. There's children involved. There's people. Yeah, there's like kids. Three of them.

Wait, hold on, can you guys give me a backstory on what the allegations are? So apparently Tyler has three kids. He said, he claimed on the show that they were sperm babies and that he has, they don't know what he looks like. Okay. That kind of has been debunked by TikTok. The baby mama has came out and said that, no, Tyler, he did do a sperm. I think he was a sperm donor for the first child, but the second ones was natural and they're twins.

Tyler said that they don't know what the kids look like. There's pictures of him holding the kids and smiling. So don't look good. It don't look good. Oh, wait. So he's like the sperm god from Netflix. The guy that was fucking women in grocery stores and shit after, I wouldn't say, He's that.

Yeah. But that guy... Not that bad, but... With a lot of families, he was a sperm donor on the first one. And the second one, he was fucking everyone's wife. So my assessment of Tyler in the beginning, first episode was spot on. I said, Tyler is definitely a fuck boy. He has red suede shoes with a red jacket.

He's literally a red flag. So I was right. Because any man that's going to say that kids don't... They've never seen him or he's never seen them. And then pictures come out of you. holding the kids like, come off. You don't have to lie about that. Back to strategy.

That's a terrible thing. Why? Like, what's your strategy there? If you actually want to go find love, you're just never going to see your kids again? I mean, here's a strategy. To keep this lie up with the girl that you're marrying? Here's a strategy, right?

And I'm trying to think for Tyler, right? Because he in this game for love and marriage. You see Ashley, he know if he dropped down and Ashley let her know that he got three kids off the rip. He's not going to make it out to pause. You know, Tyler needs Ashley to see what he look like. He need to lay the pipe down. He needs to secure the bag.

That's fuck boy shit. It is fuck boy shit. You're lying about having children. There's nothing worse than a man. Now, also, too, what if he didn't want to talk about that on camera? And then when Ashley finds out, do you think she's going to be like, yo, I really got to know you? And you're a great guy for lying about your kids. Well, that's why I'm giving him slack because she did find out and she still marry him.

And it seemed like. But the story that she found out is not the actual truth. She found out that he had three kids. he said they were all via IVF, which is not true. Only one was IVF. The two, he fucked the girl and had twins. You see the girl, I know why he said that he ain't fuck her naturally. A lot of guys do hide there.

Saying you didn't fuck a girl naturally is hilarious. What is fucking naturally fucking? This is her right. How do you unnaturally fucks me? Nutting in a supermarket and then putting it inside a woman's vagina in the parking lot. It's documented. Then he also built this whole story that he's like, they don't know why, like, I'm not in their lives.

Like, me, girl and I are like, we're friends. He did it. He was, he was framing it. It's like, yeah, I did her a favor, but I don't fuck with her. Is this the girl? Yeah, that's her. So this was her addressing at all, saying like he's fucking full of shit. That's, yeah, I mean, it looks like a stud. Oh, she's a stud. Wait, Demaris is

a stud offensive? Okay. So she is, she's a stud. Okay. I thought stud was a compliment. I'll just be seen what Juski be posting. He said stud, so I'm like, if he ain't getting canceled, we should be good. That's your barometer. That's your morometer.

Clay, like, yo, if Drewski could say it, we could say it, fuck it. That boy, Juski everywhere. I mean, I guess, I see for reality TV to lie in that regard, but this looks- about kids is crazy, though. This looks even weirder now, though.

The only thing, man, I just don't understand why, like, when men do these type of shows, like, women just be, like, chomping at the biz to expose someone. Like, you know what I mean? He came out. He did, you know,

make that lie, but like the amount of people who literally try to expose that life was crazy. Can we go back to accountability, though? Because I saw it happen with you, but look at the people you were choosing to be around. They are the exposers. Yeah, yeah. You can't be mad when a habitual exposure exposes you for fucking them. Yeah, yeah.

Well, well, well, get ahead. Not, uh, fuck. Yeah. Listen, man. We won't want to say a name, but yeah. I was rooting for y'all. No, no. I believed in love.

And when that... Please don't. And Ma, man, I don't know. I saw that episode next episode. I was on like, what the heck did she show you to make the convince you so badly? But we told my. Yeah, that's a situation. I don't care.

The Baltimore. Okay. Okay. I have no before. Yeah. What is she? Because she DM'd you, Maul. Yeah.

Oh, my gosh. Did she? Riz. Riz, Ma'u. Oh, he. I'll just say, no, no. Because she, her first DM to me, she was cursing me out. Oh, yeah, yeah.

Like, she jumped in cursing me out. I was like, whoa. Yeah. I was like, I didn't disrespect you. Nothing like that's what fucking fuck you say fuck me for? Yeah I was like what's fuck me like me? But then she's know everything got cool and we were having a conversation and then she's basically like yo Clay is a fucking liar we definitely hooked up.

We was doing a lot of that shit just for social media, TikTok shit like that but we definitely like kicked it had a good time. We definitely had sex. I was like oh okay. Yeah. Then she went on to show pictures of y'all just kind of like you know hanging out hugging in the elevator. I'm like, okay, these are a couple pictures when it's a mirror

and y'all stand in front of the mirror and kind of like take a picture of the mirror to kind of show where love is headed. Yeah, that's what y'all was headed. Where love was headed for a night. Yeah, I feel that. Inspiration, like, it's motivational purposes only just to show y'all what love could look like.

That's what it's what love looks like, you know what I mean? And I was on the side, like, after everything and when Maul showed me that shit, I felt like, yes, you guys were doing that for social media, but you also beat too. I thought both things were sure. I thought both things were sure. Yeah, my heart.

Yeah, I feel that. Yeah, I feel that. Yo, that's me on here. It's judgment-free zone. I have bodies. I'm taking to the grave. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I get it.

It's no judgments over here. I just, man, it's just like, dang, man. Like, I type in my name on TikTok. It's just all that stuff. It's just like, God damn. Like, bro had a vulnerable. That's what I'm saying. What you thought was going to expose her and think she's not going to

Exposed. I thought I was going to release and move on. Release. Is that the word your therapist told you to lose? Just release and move on. Release and move on. And I, and I go like,

cool, she cools house house. She's cool, she's cool, she's a person. Like, I don't want to, like, you know what I'm just like,

I was like a little bit like, damn, Selena, like you got thirsty for some cloud. Like, you already got it. Like, why you got her? Clay, yes.

Yes. Yes. Are you not familiar with her game? Yes. See, I wasn't at, like, not all the way.

Until it happened and then trust me. The internet made me familiar. They sent me DMs of her with Adam. They were like, this the girl, you effing? And they got in like Adam 22, butthole and shit. I'm like, bro, I wasn't doing none of that shit. Why y'all send me this? So then you butthole?

At that point, I would never search my name again. Because only Adams' butthole would show up. Yeah, I was getting DMs and people screenshot. I'm like, this is what you want to bring home to your mother? Yeah. I'm like, bro. They were just concerned fans. I sleep with horror sometimes, bro.

I don't bring them to my mom. It happens, man. It happens. It's all good. My mom's met a few horse. Yeah. You know, my mom don't meet the horse. But I told you already, I like promiscuous women.

So I got to maybe kind of... Well, we figured that out. Yeah, I got to talk that out, you know. Even my therapist said it's cool, you know, that I like it and stuff like that. I just got to go about it, you know, a different way, you know what I'm saying. There's a lot of... Just don't take pictures. Women that don't care to expose.

If you don't take pictures together, that... Yeah, there's a lot of permissible... Yeah, like, that seems... You can find a whole lot of... See, and I'm... and I don't do a good job of... find the ones that's not in the game. I kind of like go with them. Because they won't put themselves out there. Yeah.

You got to like do a little more. It's like an archaeologist. I think there's a way of promiscuous women that don't share anything. Yeah. To be honest. A lot of them. That would be ideal. 95% of them are like that. Yeah. They don't want their business out there. And that's the ones I need. You know, that's the ones that I need. You know, because it's hard finding one that like the closeted ones. You know what I'm saying?

Because I feel like when I find like a closet girl, she's just a regular good girl. And it just be whack, man. And I'll be saying so many women coming up in me like, oh, like the type of women you like, this is a disgrace. I'm like, bitch, I would never talk to a girl like you. This shit gets boring as hell. Your missionary is a disgrace. Yeah. It's giving just missionary.

Oh, God. All right. I get it. We didn't have to go down that path. Let's reset it back to, I want to focus on. I want to focus on Nick and Hannah. Clay, what did you think of this? This, to me, was the most exhausting couple as the, as the show evolved and moved outside of the pods.

they became really tough to watch on screen for me. 100%. Can I interject before? What is it with Love is Blind? I don't think I'm aging that gracefully, so pardon me, but why do all the 20-year-olds on Love is Blind look like they're 40?

Everyone is like 24 years old. I'm like, you are 1,000% 41. Hannah actually lost on weight. She looked a little better. Yeah, she got on Zempy. She's a medical device sale. Well, she's pretty. She's getting high in her own supply.

No, she lost a shit ton of weight. She did. My own thing about Hannah is that she was just acting like she was too hot on that show, bro. That's the same person? Same person, yeah. She lost a lot of weight. Yeah.

I like, I like chunky. She hit up her medical plugs. Yeah, yeah. The problem with Hannah was Nick, look, I think it's safe to say Nick, Nick was a mama's boy, lived in his parents' basement. His mom did his laundry, cleaned for him, took care of him his whole life

until the minute he went on the show. There was one scene where she asked Nick to boil pasta and he didn't know how to, he couldn't boil water. Yeah. But he's, he's an athlete, right? Is he a kicker or something? He was a kicker in college, yeah. He's got a lot of things handed to him.

Yeah. But the thing with Hannah was, she's very much, she's very quick to dish it out. College was he a kicker at? Like, that's not just the athlete on everybody. Like, that's what he said. He said. If he was a kicker at LSU, that's an athlete. But like, yeah, I don't know.

Probably like, Faboo. I don't know. I don't think he went too far from home ever. So whatever is nearby. JIT, though. NJIT is crazy. Being a kicker. for NJIT is fucking hilarious.

Stony Brooks. That's probably suits. Like that. Wagner. Yeah, shit, don't do that. My man coach at Wagner. We not do it. Oh, sorry, sorry, sorry.

They D1. Wagner did. Hannah was extremely bossy and was very, she would insult him a lot. But she, as soon as Nick turned it on her, because remember, she left her job for this show

and he made a joke about her being unemployed and she unloaded on him. He didn't handle it. So, yeah, I like that. Hannah does not respect Nick as a man is clear.

She belittles him all the time. She said... She said she made him a man. They only know each other for three weeks. She said the man you are today is because of me. Gang, because he boiled the pot. You can boil water now. Yeah. Yeah. I made you the man you are. I've known you for two Sundays. I know for two seconds, bro.

She get insecure. Nick gave a little tension from another woman. She over here just like... Yeah, but see, night, she lost that weight. She's going to start dressing a little different. Like, like going to slide in the DMs? No, I'm not. I'm not. I'm not. Because Nick... Not a mentor her.

No, no, no, no. Because Nick said that he, I don't know if you saw this, Julian, but Nick said that he don't be eating Hannah's cat, you know what I'm saying? And I'll say this on. Well, he's not Haitian. What you mean? He's not Haitian. It wasn't bad at a shot at all.

That's a good shot. Oh, damn, I might have missed it. That joke went right over my head. Don't worry about it. Yeah, yeah. But, uh... Trouble go after the guy in these population soon. No worry.

Oh, no. I don't even want to talk anymore. Who knows what's in pepper pot? But he said he's not, he said he's not eating. He said, so she went on social media and said that, oh, he don't eat the cat. And then Nick said for that, for that special or for somebody, I will. Pretty much indicating that he ain't eating your cat, but he will for the right person. He won't eat his wife's pussy, but he'll eat somebody else's.

Well, that gives me a good indication. That's not his wife, but that's his engagement. Whenever I see a guy who says he eat vagina but he's not willing to eat your vagina, it's only two things. Yeah. It got a bad reek. Yeah. Or it just, she ain't even getting them enticed to do it.

not into you like you know what I'm saying he's not into he like that so you know so so no I'm not slot in hand in DMs because that was a clear indicator that it ain't popping uh also a scene that I think it looks like if Andrew Schultz decided to become a school shoot that that's her brother so that's her very very gay brother yeah what bothered me is they did the pasta scene they had they had her brother over they did a dinner whatever and then they go he went home the brother and then the next scene with Hannah is Hannah with her father her mom and then they're like little white boy's son. They're their new son. And I was like, oh, it's very clear to me that the parents wrote off this kid. They never want to speak to him again because they're like

drink milk at the dinner table. They're super religious and gay is wrong. So they literally just wrote this kid out of their life. So then Nick comes in and meets the rest of her family. And it's as if like nothing. They don't even mention the son. Like there's no talk about anything. It's like here's our little white kid that loves football like in baseball and he's going to be a white straight man. Like it was just very odd to me that they just pretend. ended like this scene never happened. And they're like, here's Hannah's real family. Yeah.

It's probably the way, they probably met Hannah's family before the scene with the brother. They just do a lot of weird stuff with the editing. So I didn't look too deep into that. But did you see the table, did you see the conversation where Hannah had with her friends when they were grilling Nick? To me, that was nasty. Yeah.

That was nasty work, you know what I'm saying? Was that editing in though? Because it felt like he may have met them already. I'm not sure. I might need to holl out Nick and see. What were they grilling him about? Pretty much Hannah just saying that, you know, Nick just needs to step up as a man. He's 10 days.

Yeah, I know. It's been 10 days. She's pretty much saying that he needs to just pretty much step up, you know. And they were kind of drilling him like, hey, Hannah's the girl that you want to marry. You need to do all these things and step up for it, which in hindsight seems well. But I thought it was a little unfair how the conversation went because they just met him and they grilling him on being a man. And to me, bro, it's like if I'm meeting your friends for the first time and I'm getting drilled on being a man,

it's like what conversations you having when I'm not here you know what I'm saying? I agree that because she definitely walked in and told her family he can't even boil water. Yeah. She shits on him all the time. And I thought it was crazy that she came on camera

and talking to her castmates talking about Nick don't eat her vagina. Like on camera and Nick told her I don't want to talk about the sexual stuff on camera like you know, I just want to keep it, you know, keep that thing tucked and she will will be will be will bella and Nick Johnson, Nick don't eat, you know, vagina.

So I don't know. I got, I'm a little. I mean, I feel her though. I feel like that would be a red flag. Yeah. I mean, I feel that's true. If I was,

if I got engaged through a pod and met a girl the next day and found out she didn't suck dick, I'd have some problems. Yeah. I don't know if I'd like bring it up around like the fellas and my parents. Yeah,

let me go ahead to the whole world. But I mean, I'll be honest, that's a deal breaker, even for a soulmate. Well, yeah, I mean, sexual chemistry has to be there.

That's not sexual chemistry. That's just like. Yeah, it's like duties. Yeah. That's like you need to do. I'll eat pussy. He sucked there. Yeah. But I got to tell the women.

Pretty much one-on-one when it comes to this. But women just be having a little bit messed up. Because they be like, oh, he don't eat vagina, stuff like that. It is true. Some men are not eating your vagina. Yeah. You need to get some work done. You need to clean it over a little bit.

Like, I don't want to have no type of pinch, no nothing. And a lot of women do, you know? So sometimes I go, I'll have intercourse with a girl before I even, I'm not doing the oral from the first rip, you know what I'm saying? Unless you're just looking delicious as hell. like, and smelling delicious. And smelling delicious and stuff like that. But then even that, you know what I'm saying?

You got to kind of get a little bit going. Kind of smell that whiff of air. Yeah. And they're like, all right, cool. This is, this is a good vibe. When you get that whiff of air and it's smell like a little pinch of a bohull. Oh, no. I mean, he said this was a good vibe.

I love that he called it intercourse, too. I'm even pussy out the gate. I don't really care. Really? What gate? What gate are you at? You're wicking at you. Gate A.

the hynican gate at MetLife Out the gate What gate are you coming out of, man? Yeah Hey, you know that there's some niggas that be eating If you fucking like, you might as well Yeah, I know if you'll...

Oh, yeah. Yo, I went to the strip club 35 this past weekend. You know, you get the VIP dance for $100. These girls, they try and let you eat their vagina. I'm like, whoa, baby girl, you've been dancing all night. Get that shit out of my face, bro. You're eight hours in.

I'm a nasty person. You know, eating vagina that's on the clock is crazy. she's on the clock. Now eating a striper pussy in the Friber's his next fucking level. That's what I'm saying. I laugh at that type of shit because it's like,

I never been that horny. Like, how are y'all that horny? That's some predator shit to me. That is insane, man. You need to go like, you need to go to church, man. Anybody that's eating pussy in the strip club, go to church, man.

And that's not even like a thing because I think strippers are actually some of the cleaner women because they have to like really pay attention to a lot of that shit. depends on where you at. Yeah, it depends. Some of the bitches are shaking ass to pay some bills.

So I'm not judging the strippers. I'm judging the dude that's eating pussy in the strip club. Yeah. Like, how are you that horny, sir? In the strip club? You couldn't get a number and then come back at like 5 a.m. and pick up? Sometimes you got to learn what that mouth do so she could come back, you know?

Got a client for life. Yeah, but that's... Got a client for life. In the strip club is crazy. That's just, that's wild. I'm too intimate and like too much of a lover, even with... Are you going crazy in that room? Like, if I already eat pussy at a strip,

like, nah. I can't. And no, I can get my dick sucked in a strip club. I haven't, but I would. I would too.

Well, not anymore. To eat pussy, that's like a real, this is an intimate moment. Then you also got to think about it. Like, what couch are we doing this?

Like, where am I eating pussy? Yeah. Putting your face on a strip club couch too. Like, eh, it is a la carte. Ah.

In the VIP room. That's sick. Too marriage and all the couch. Yeah, I like the strip clothes. That would be like $15 of dance and stuff like that. I'm like,

oh, you, you girls got no standards. Yeah. spent $100, I'm having a time of my life in there. I'm cleaning up. Is this couple still together? I like them. Rams and Marissa are not together.

They actually had them probably the most dramatic breakup ever. Like, it was really sad. Marissa crashed out. She was so sad when they broke up. You never should have gone as long as they did. Yeah, Ramses had an issue. Well, so, Roy, just so you're aware. So Marissa is an army brat.

Like, grew up in the military, went in the military herself. like worked on a warships all that stuff she's used to short-term relationships not even romantic period that's just like it's less about that just like her ideologically Rams is like a bleeding liberal like he

I could not tell by his haircut yeah he has one yeah one feathered on his asshole too but yeah what on his asshole it was a mic bro that was a mic strap so they zoomed in they looked like he had a thong on

during his breakup that was crap that was oh man that was sick I remember she's like crying ball in her eyes. I was like, is this man wearing a thong? That's why she was crying. He looks like he would go on a trip with Tim Walts to China for sure. So he doesn't own a shirt without five patterns.

So he- Take it out, Peach. Yeah, please, my reaction to some of this stuff, please take it out. Take that out. I don't want to be looped into this. That was fucking hilarious, though. Fuck you up. But he was like very much on the side of, I can't be with someone that likes the military, basically.

he's like it was he made it very clearly he's like fuck the u.s army fuck this country all fuck everything that she did and she stood yeah yeah basically and she's like well what if i ever wanted to get back into the service he's like i wouldn't be cool with that and then their whole thing they were very open and honest about talking about how much they fucked and all they talked about for half of the show was sex sex sex sex every time they were around the other cast members it was like we have sex because they're like clearly the people that don't do that lot like the couple that have sex yeah like you know i mean so uh and then at one point she was like, well, she's like, well, look, I'm not trying to get pregnant, but I don't

want to get on birth control. So you might have to just strap up. And he said, that's not fucking happening. That is a deal breaker. I want it with some judgments. I apologize. I like your style. I wasn't familiar with your game, sir. Okay. But all right, where do you draw the line with that occupation thing? Because I have issues with the military as well, but not with specific soldiers. Like, at that point, the girl that's selling medical supplies, like fuck big pharma I'm gonna stop dating you because you work

in the medical field I don't know he was really gonna hold on that military stuff that's the only thing with Ramses I didn't really typically understand but man he was a cold he was a cold dude he told her like yo the this is not gonna work if I cannot hit that pussy raw if I can hit that pussy raw bro it is a rat

that had nothing to do with the Air Force yeah he just didn't want to wear a condom no he didn't want to wear a condom I think that that that was probably the biggest thing because she said that hey like I'm either I don't want to get on birth control you need to, what's it called when the men? Pull out. Oh, well, not that.

Because they were apparently doing that. Vesectomy. He didn't want to do that and he didn't want to put on condoms. I recommend that Rams would probably go to lambskin condoms. It's a little bit more realistic into that feel. He's probably had bad experience. I'm sure he's vegan. Yeah, I'm sure.

I'm sure. He can't do that. He probably can't do that. Yeah, that's a good point. Look at his haircut. He's definitely being in. He cut it now, man. But he's getting ripped to shreds right now on the internet. They're calling him Claypoint 2.

And I'm going to say Rams is, Rams isn't Clay Point two. He ain't take it as far as me. Right. You know what I'm saying? Get your shit off. He ain't, he ain't, he ain't saying as far as far. But listen, I like Ramses a lot. You know, they call him sweet and all that stuff.

I just think Ramses is one of them dudes that could get multiple women. He could get the anime girls, the Asian girls, the white girls. The black girls. He just got a style for everything. All right, Clay. What about Tim and Alex? Tim and Alex. I don't think they were ever compatible. I feel like Tim trauma dumps a lot.

You know, and that's probably in the pods you in there. It's real intimate. And it could be really emotional. You're away from your phone and stuff like that. So it's easy to like really kind of feel for somebody's sob story. And Tim was doing a lot of trauma dumping. You know, them trauma dumping niggas, they're real good in the beginning. But in the end, it don't really kind of like last for the longest.

They continue with the trauma and place it on other people. Place it on people. Yeah, go ahead, Julian. It was like their first. Alex is fine. She looked like our type. Alex is fine. She is a good looking woman.

And she lost a little weight too. Yeah, she's super pretty. It was like their first four dates. I remember it got to the point where every time they were on screen, they were crying. And I was like, damn, all their dates are sad as shit. Even on the proposal, I mean, I get it. It's like happy tears. But like he can't, it sucks.

Because like what happened is he lost his sister. And then he lost his other sister. They both passed. And he has like these totems that he carries. He has this necklace with rings that they had that he wears. And then he actually gave a bracelet of their. to Alex. And it was like,

everything he did was seem to be like in remembrance of his sisters. And that just became like his whole thing. His identity in the show is based on. Yeah, based on him being hurt and grieving and, you know,

looking to just be, you know, with somebody that loves him and could help him heal and things like that. Like, I think it's unfortunate that people like that go through trauma like that,

dealing with your partner is kind of fucked up because, I feel like partners get shamed for not being on every step of your trauma. And being there, you look like a bad person. That shit is exhausting sometimes having to deal with other people's trauma. Yeah, it is. And it's fucked up to say because we have to make sure everyone that has trauma is handled with care and everything is cool.

You have to be there as a supportive partner. But that shit is exhausting. Yeah. Like everybody got their own shit too. Yeah. So I feel like we need to get away from the stigma of saying, hey, I can't deal with someone with that much trauma. You should work on that.

And then maybe we can date because I'm not going to, sit here and do this, even if I love you, like, you're ruining every moment. I definitely don't think Alex was prepped to kind of deal with Tim, but I mean, I think their issues wasn't really the trauma dumping. It was just, I don't think Alex really liked Tim. I don't know, Julian, you could correct me if I'm wrong, but I feel like when they got out of the pods, it just wasn't that connection. Like, this dude, his parents drove down to meet Alex, this girl going to take a nap while her parents are there. It's like, she, her apartment looking crazy. She didn't even care to like show this man, her way she living. Like, I would have been like, now, production, you got to come

the next day. She showed this apartment apartment look crazy. So I kind of get while Tim is fed up. Tim probably had an expectation like this is going to be my wife. And, you know, just Alex, Alex, Alex, I can tell she out there in U Street. She used to talk them to them niggas in D.C. And Tim like that. Specific to U.S. Street is great.

You know, he's on U Street. She on U.S. Street. She on U.S.S. She had Roseball. Alex at Roseball right now, actually. Love me at Rose Bowl. Oh, man. The shitty thing was, great memories. You're a Roseball. I think Clay's right in that regard. I think outside of the pods,

she wasn't the person that Tim needed her to be. But then what sucks, what made Tim ultimately, I think, look like a bad guy is Alex's father has MS. And also trauma bonding. Well, you would think.

But he has the conversation, asked for her dad's hand in marriage, and he's the dad's super supportive and to the best that he can be. He's still communicative. And he gives his blessing. And then like the next scene, like the next time we see them together.

he's like, yeah, nah, and he's like, I never want to see you again. Don't talk to me. Which is edited. He straight up said, I would be okay if I don't see you again. You know, well, you know, Julian, you can't really edit that. You're forgetting a big part, though. So in Mexico, she put her hands on him. She put her hands on his mouth.

So he had already a conversation with her, let her know that, like, yo, you, I don't do it. I don't deal with that type of stuff. You don't put your hands on me. You raise your voice. The way you communicate is real toxic. I'm not really feeling that. He gave her, like, it was like the first strike. And I'm sure she had other strikes.

Another strike was she fell asleep while her, while his parents were there. They drove from Augusta, Georgia to D.C. You know, I might be a little heated too if my parents come down and meet you to do this old experiment and now you just fall asleep. And so I think that Tim was a little bit fed up. And when he had that conversation, he little turned off, you know, maybe he should have told Alex before to let him know what was going down. But it seemed like it was completely, she didn't know what was about to happen.

He just broke up with her right on camera. It seemed a little cold, but he did seem fed up. Yeah. You know, and I'm sure that Netflix did not give that side of the story of all the reasons of why he was fed up. Because for him to go in that room and not even want to work it out, it seemed like whatever happened behind the scenes, yeah, it was over. She from PG County?

Man. She's trying to think of the hands on the mouth thing. Yeah, like what were you from, right? Booy. Booy girl do that. Girls in PG County, too. Yeah. All right.

So the reunion is, the reunion is next week? No, it's this, this week, Wednesday. Tomorrow is you're listening. Tomorrow if you're listening now. The union is tomorrow. What are you looking forward to at the reunion? The reunion. I'm looking forward to actually Tim and Alex.

You know, he said that he never wants to see her again. So I'm assuming that next time he sees her is at the reunion. Intrashly. So that should be, yeah, exactly, right? That should be entertaining to see them, you know. I'm going to be interested. They sit next to each other, too, because like, how hard can you go, the person like right next team or stuff like that.

You know, but it seemed like they're a little DV, so it might be, you know, interesting. She might slap the shit out. She might slap them, you know what I'm saying? I'm interested to see Tyler and Ashley, you know, Tyler's been getting a lot of slack online. I want to see, you know, how he addressed. And you hold the Tyler down. It sounds like you, you're holding them down. I'm holding Tyler down because, you know, at the end of day, man, we don't know them kids.

And I think that the internet shit, I think that, I think, I think, for real, though, we don't know them kids. And I think the internet. that I'm not saying fuck them kids because them kids got a life. And what were you saying? We would never know them kids. He's holding the kids. But that's the same logic is saying I don't have a STD because I haven't gotten tested. It doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

You're just ignoring them. Wait, listen. Listen, all I know is I'm seeing Black Love and I'm seeing the internet trying to go against that. So I'm only just vouching because I'm watching the Love is blonde. I ain't watching the Tyler show. I'm watching Love is blind. And what they are displaying is a beautiful. a marriage. I understand that people try

expose your whole lifestyle. I don't know what he got edited. I don't know what he said. He might have gave... As somebody that went through it, you understand how things can be edited out. But if he did indeed embellish some of the reality around the kids,

you got to see how that's fucked up. I do, I do. And a couple... Twitter being mad that he lied about three kids is not going against Black Love. It's going against Tyler. Yeah, it is. It is. It is. But, you know, I know Ashley and I want her to have like a good relation. I want her to be happy.

And I'm just saying like it seems like Ashley is still holding Tyler down. So she's holding him down all this time. They filmed this a year ago. She's still holding him down. It's a reason. Like he probably told her off camera. And that's what I'm saying. Like I don't think he's obligated to tell the world his phone situation.

You know what I'm saying? So like that's the only reason I'm kind of giving him because the way I'm seeing Ashley going hard for him. Yeah. Actually, I know Ashley. She's not no dumb girl, but she's not like no gullible girl. Like she got niggas before it is. She got her shit together. So it's like if Ashley could listen to this man and forgive him and still go ahead with the marriage,

then we don't know. I'm a judge. You know what I'm saying? Well, have you talked to Ashley like privately about the entire situation? I haven't talked to her privately about a situation just because I know she under strict NDA and I don't want her to like get into trouble anything. But I thought it was really telling. She's been in the comments when people have been trying to like slander Tyler and she's

defending him. I made a, I made a TikTok post where I defended Tyler and she said, thank you. I appreciate what you said. So I just kind of reap between the lines that they still together and they still rocking. It's a reason for it. Yep. Yep. It's a reason for it.

So, you know, I'm not going to put my black brother down. I'm saying. I know he, I know what looked bad. The objects look bad. But, you know, Talley, you got a friend in me. You know what I'm saying? So I'm not sure if I'm the friend you want to have.

I'm not sure you the friend you need. I'm going to make this situation better. Clay, I'm not sure you the friend he need. But I respect you putting that out there. I got married friends, though. So if he, if he needs some advice, I could, I could pass him along. Okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Refer him to somebody that actually went through with the parents. Got you, man. I could tell him how to do with the haters. A stepfather, somebody that has some experience here. I respect Clay for that. But, yeah, yeah. Was there any newly single women out of the pods in this season that you can see yourself with being like an alumni? And, you know, you'd.

Hmm. Yeah, what's your girl did you see that you was like, oh, okay, I like her? Like, damn, I wish I was in this season. I don't know about being. I would have left her on the altar for sure. Ah, that's a thing. Like, I ain't seen nothing. I was like I could go to full away with it.

be honest with you but who I can have a good time with yeah for sure and you know I like Alex I think Alex look good I think you know Ashley the homie she's definitely wife material but she's the homie so she if you know The other Ashley was cute too though

Ashley W she was cute you know she didn't get no screen time like that but she's cute you know I've seen a couple social media posts from Morgan she looked like she good um she looked like she good yeah I've seen Katie Katie looks good

but yeah personality Clay personality did you like their personalities like who was you attracted

I think me me and Marissa would probably vibe about she got a bubbly personality I think and you know

I like high pitch voices okay for reasons yeah yeah you know yeah yeah

yeah whatever we didn't talk about them but Monica and Stephen Monica and Stephen oh yeah

what they they call him not just Stephen or Alawa Stephen Rory so this guy

basically grew up in like a very white, like we're white household. And then he did a DNA test and found out he's got some, he's got some black blood in them. I did mine. I'm, I'm very pure European. Yeah. So unlike the driven snow,

he was stomped on. So he did, he did some research. He went and got some books and then became like, you know, like a more like woke pro black person in his older years. This was in the 10 days or like, no,

no, he showed up to the show. Like, like this. But the second day, he had a kenta cloth on. he was kneeling for the anthem like, wait my girl, black.

Day 70 came out to parley. We didn't land on Fleming Rock. Flippling it on us. Then he got the Devenchenzo haircut. You know you got to go get the Devencenzhenzo. But he, but he did this thing, Roy,

when they were all together with the guys like on that first trip in Mexico and he was like, you know how much like pussy we could probably get from doing this shit? Yeah. And they were all like, I mean, did he know the camera was on?

Oh, my. He did in front of the married couples. All the guys were like, yeah. Totally. He's like, there's girls going to be in our DMs that's going to want to suck our dick. No,

like verbat. Why don't we start with this couple? Roy. That's the wilder shit y'all said so far. On the honeymoon. Yo, you know how many bitches we could get? Yeah. So then he goes away on this,

he goes to some sleep training thing. I bet he did. Sleep training. Yeah, no. Yeah, no, I have insomnia too. What's up? And Monica. was at home and this is after the

match show trip and that was like when uh who was in the parking lot for five hours would they location Jeremy and there are lower oh sorry Sarah Ann it's the same thing because he didn't come back that night and he came back because he didn't sleep and I guess he met someone he was reading his DM there and

the text messages between them were so it's just so bad yeah apparently he was telling the other girl that you don't do the things that my current fiancee does like I think he likes anal and, you know, Monica wasn't going for the anal game, you know what I'm saying? But I would tell Steve, I know.

Listen, eating pussy thing, I understand that's a deal break. But, like, anal, you don't, like, if you find, like, a soulmate and she doesn't do anal, like, I think you're going to be okay, man. I'm out of here. I think you'll be fine. I think you'll be okay. Imagine your whole boy telling you he broke it with his girl, like, yo, but what happened? I like, you know, she won't let me put it in her cake.

You're like, whoa. That's my soulmate, but there's no anal, so I can't do this. That's why you love it. That's crazy. Leaving a girl because of that is fucking wild Yeah, yeah Now I don't have too much experience With the anal game

So I don't know how like Crazy is making women go But uh you know No No, I don't know I don't know how crazy It's making women go But you know

I don't have no experience In that like that Because I don't do that Because you was way one of the specialists We'll keep that off Mike No, no no Not not Selena Oh yeah

Oh yeah I know that I know that but like yeah Oh yeah Not even with her God. I lost my opportunity. Okay, okay. I'm not going to say.

I don't got that much of experience. I've seen her work, bro. Are you crazy? Way to putting the work. Yeah. That's what he says, like he's working on himself. Yeah.

You still experience it. I'm getting better every day. I got you. I got you. Okay. Our last episode after we wrapped, Clay and I were having like some real therapy type shit, like becoming friends. And I was like, man, you got to stop doing this shit.

And then he brought up a certain woman that he went on vacation where I was like, you know what? Never mind. Fuck this therapy. She's a legend. Yeah, I get it, bro. She's a legend. I do the same thing.

I know women are in my DMs all the time. They're like, you know, they can't take me serious with me dealing with her. But I just want to tell those women, you cannot even imagine what she does. No, you can even imagine. You can see it. You can see it. Oh, what a queen. But it's different experience in it.

And yeah, you are feeling like, what a queen. You are feeling like that. Yeah. And shout out to Willow. I threw away all my therapy. I understand, man. It's like a known thing It's a known thing

I type my stuff on TikTok I look It's a queen Oh so they know Oh yeah Yeah the world I was with Willow Oh okay I bet

Oh yeah Shout out of Shout out of Lidlow Shout out of Liddle More than welcome To come up here Anytime you Hell yeah

Willow Rider Willow rider Not Willow Out of respect Who would I don't know The internet is crazy You never know

They might think that Listen man We just can make it clear Willow rider I'm good with the speculations Let them think what they want to think. Clay and Willow Smith. We have fans up here.

Oh, man. Willow, if you are ever in the tri-state area and you need anywhere to just come and talk, you're always welcome. Maybe me and Willow come back and do it sit down with y'all, you know? That would be something. Yeah. Yeah. That's hilarious.

We'll put that on Patreon, though. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. We got debunk the, you know, the sex worker perception, you know what I'm saying. I don't know a few sex workers that are really cool. Super cool. They're really, really cool, yeah. But she's, I feel like she's not even acting in some of those films. Oh no, she's not acting.

She seems like a cool chick. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Super down the earth. Yeah. Really sweet girl. It comes across on camera. I'm not even trying to be funny. She had her personality before.

One time she delivered pizza and then after that it was just like. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Wow, she's a very gracious woman. Yeah. Very gracious. Yeah. But she's, uh. That's why Clay is sick.

He says things that you have to sit and think about for like 30 seconds. Like, he ain't just say it that way. Because the way he delivers the stuff that he says. seems like he's saying something that's not crazy. And then you think about what he actually said. Pidge, are you familiar with Willow Rodder's game? Oh, man. I got to see you, I got to send you some tape.

Oh, she's already in my history. I'm looking at her right now. She's in my cookies. To everybody, y'all should subscribe to Willow's only fan. Oh, man, I would love to, man. That might be the first person I ever really laid a real card down. Yeah, yeah, you deserve it. Yeah, you deserve it.

Yeah, you deserve it. Yeah, laying the security code down for Willow? Yeah, I might put it in the last, the CVV might go in. Hey, y'all better run it up before Willow Price is get crazy. They're not crazy now? No, it's actually, she's a young legend. I feel like she's going to be with the greats. Now, she desert her.

Her pricing to go up, but like right now it's a little bit affordable and stuff like that. She's a legend. Hypothetical. If, because it seems like you guys have a great relationship, but I don't know what the barrier of that relationship is, if she asked you to shoot content with her, would you do it? No, no, no. I'm not, that's not my lane.

Okay. Yeah. Okay, but what if they didn't, what if it was like POV? They didn't owes you? Just like, no face. They put a screen mask on you. Just that thing Kanye wore. Nah, I mean, I still feel like I would, I record, I definitely, you know, I record

some women when we have sex, but it's like consensual and stuff like that. I just, I think if I did it with Willow, it would be more so something for us to have in a stash. I just don't want my, my penis out there on the internet. So, okay, so if say the Ray J. Kim Kate thing, yeah. Say that became another thing where a studio came at y'all with a stupid bag. I work in tech, though, bro. I got a corporate job. Now you sound like Hannah.

But I do, though. I can't be, I can't have none of that speculation, so. I'm just seeing you with a bunch of hoes selling jet skis on a lake. What thing I got to do with my? You have another plan. Like, you don't have to stay corporate. Yeah. I don't got to stay corporate.

You could go with your own business, man. Hey, well, the money got to eat like corporate. It got to eat like that. That's what I'm saying, but it's a stupid bag, though. A stupid bag. Yeah. I feel like you have a group trip every single weekend on your story. Yeah, I do.

I do. That business looks like it's doing all right. You could fuck Willow on. camera and lose your corporate job, you'd be fine. And if you, you know, I'm laughing your dreams, man. That's what I'm trying to tell you. I'll be in different rooms, bro. So, like, when I'm with them corporate, I like kind of putting out there and like having,

like, they wouldn't respect me if I was over here, like, you know, digging down women on camera and shit like that. All those corporate guys subscribe to her only fans. No, they do. I know people who see her that's in corporate and stuff like that, you know, like she does, like, she does Skype calls and all that stuff. So, you know, she has customs that she does a lot of corporate. What's she doing? She is, she, she's doing anything.

She got on website IP. She got APIs and shit like that, you know? So, yeah, she's changing the game, bro. She's changing the game, man. Changing the game is crazy. Yeah. Shout out to Willow, man. No, I love Willow.

We respect you up here for sure. Before we get to voicemails, I will ask, when was the last time he spoke to AD? After the wedding episode dropped, was the last time I talked to AD. Okay. The wedding episode of our season, once it dropped. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, me and AD don't talk. I mean, I'm sure when we see each other in person,

it's going to be a vibe. It's like one of them things. But it's kind of like, what we're going to really talk about, you know? I get it. And not for the moment. Yeah. I mean, not for the moment. I mean, I cared about her and stuff like that.

But it's just like we didn't said a couple, she didn't said a couple things about me and pos. I just don't feel comfortable just reaching out to her and having that conversation. It's going to have to be something in person. I'm not no fake dude. I'm not doing stuff for the camera. It's like AD now.

Like, we kicked it plenty times after we finished filming. Why would you let the internet? get into your head and now we're not cool at all. You know what I'm saying? We was literally kicking and she came over for Thanksgiving. She know my family. Like it was always love. So, you know, a little hurt from the, from the, no,

but I get it from the internet. The internet could get in your brain and your head. Give her some grace in that regard, because I'm sure that was overwhelming for her. Yeah, it was. The amount of shit that came from the internet. Yeah. She may want it to just get away from that moment.

That's why I said the moment. Get away from that and part of that is you. I support 80 everything she does, though. She's about to be on the next season. perfect match three. I think I've seen that. And that show has a bunch of women in bikinis and all that stuff. So I can't wait to see what AD delivers.

Wait, hold on. Like I said, he says wild shit. Let him cook. You got to. Let him go. Let him cook. No, but on some real stuff, because it's like, that's not a show for love. I don't know the show. Perfect match. I don't know that. It's a hookup show.

Okay. I said, damn, my fiancee on a hookup show? That's not your. Oh, wow. So this is like, They invite all the... You could have made her an honest woman. You left her at the altar. What are you talking about?

That was a test. I was testing her. She failed. She failed the test. That was a test. And you failed. I was coming right back. Oh, I never even seen.

Is this the lineup? But they, all right. But they don't hook up like on camera, do they? Of what? Is this on Only fans? The rumored cast for that. I'm asking like you say it's just a hookup show. They're fucking on camera or something?

No, it's on Netflix. They kind of do like, you know, when they'd be like, it'd be like that gray room and then the bed be moving they kind of like do those like Oh okay got you got it Oh, Ollie I like Albert

Ali's actually with AD Oh yeah my bad bro I guess he's the op No fuck Ollie then Oh yeah I mean It's like nah it's all good It's all love

He was from the UK season Yeah he's on UK season And I want to tell AD like Damn babe girl I get it man You gotta go on your trips And have fun you know So I'm with it Wasn't Amber the only girl

That was in like a successful Marriage from the show? It looks like it. I don't know none of these people. Wasn't Amber on like season one with the white dude? And they like actually became an adult. No, no, no. She's still with Barnett.

That's, but wasn't her name? You're looking at Amber. That's AD. Okay. Let's don't mind me, guys. Oh, Freddie. I know Freddie. I know Freddie.

He was the UK season. Also, never knew AD's name was Amber. Yeah. I don't know none of these guys, though. They don't look like they enter black women now. Yeah. especially Jalen. Yeah,

Jalen looked like he's not with that. Is there a Licekin girl on the show? Well, they have two more cast members that they have yet. Jalen might be into Freddie. That's the thing about these shows

with these Rott TV because it'd be like the black dudes don't really be liking black women like that. So I'll just be, I'm just kind of looking at these guys. I can see Jailen getting

with Holly or Olivia. Yeah. I know Holly. How you know her? She's on another, I think she was on a perfect match season too. She was on too hot to handle. Yeah.

I don't know. I've never heard of that. show. Interesting. Anyways. Do we have voicemails? Yeah, it's getting let's get some advice. You've got mail. All right, Clay, you know how it goes. We're just going to play some voice mails and give some amazing advice. All right.

What's going on? Y'all is Justin from Baltimore. I got hurried up and keep this quick. I think it's a 90 second cap. So pretty much, would it be joined along when it comes to sharing clothes? Y'all a little bit older than me. Demaris is a woman so she can give me a different perspectives. Shout out them all. And Roy. Let's go. My homie pretty much hit me up.

I lost my girlfriend. We used to get up for four years, 23. So I'm like, all right, bet. It's time for me to move on. Fuck that bitch. Let's get it. Da-da-da-da. Cool.

He hit me up. He hit me up. I said, bro, I got two bitches. We're going to have a good time. I'm like, all right, bet. W. Mann's. I haven't really been in the streets in a minute. So he said, all right, bro.

Bring some ethics. I'm like, rare flag number one. I'm like, bring some ethicist. The fuck is you talking about. All right, all right, bat. Maybe because the bitches like ethics is nowadays. All right, whatever. I haven't really been in the dating pool in a minute.

I'm only 23. We're together for four years. I'm like, all right, bet. I pull up with the ethics on for the bitches, blah, blah, blah. I get there. He's like, bro, what my- He's giving me anxiety. What?

Ethicus is the underwear, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I meant to do that own etiquette too. That's crazy. You can send this guy some parents here. Ethicus? I'm like, oh, you want to be to buy some ethics? I'm like, that's weird, but like, okay.

He was like, no, nigga. Like, where is you? I want, we're going to share the ethics, bro. Niggas be sharing shit all the time. Oh, my gosh. Underwear? Like, I didn't know this is a thing until he showed me some TikToks. Like, this is a thing.

Like, niggas be sharing ethics, like group ethicists. That's the term. Group ethicists. Niggas be sharing ethics underwear. And I treated this nigga like he was gay. I was like, bro. That's weird as shit. And then him and another nigga in the friend group started treating me crazy

and calling me wild, foul shit because I look at them crazy. Am I tripping or what? Like, real shit? No. Them down low niggas with gas lights like you, huh? actually that's their entire being is gaslighting everyone from the truth of who they really are their life is a gaslight the homie's saying bring some underwear so I can wear like what is that this has to be fake I hate to spoil it sometimes I don't like when you guys say that because

who would call it like why would someone do that he said no that's my point why would someone do that No, I'm saying, why would someone call in to leave a fake voicemail? He said, no, listen, he said there's TikTok trends of people doing it. No, just because you's also, that's the other thing. The validity, just because you saw it on TikTok doesn't mean it's a thing. Yeah. Well, I mean, if you see multiple people doing it on TikTok. It can be a one-off thing.

It doesn't mean it's like a hot, the hot new trend is, me and the homie's swapping underwear. It's not a thing. Swapping underwear is craziness. But why? I don't know. I'm just asking that question. I don't know, man. I don't know what this generation is.

What have you shit himself? Remember that time you share your same? I happened a bunch of times. Could you use him. Yeah, but Rory didn't call his homeboy and say, yo, bring me some of your underwear to put on. Yeah, I went into a restaurant, bathroom, threw my underwear out, clean my ass, and brought dog some denim. And my guy, you could go to the gas station and get the fruity looms

underwear. Like, what are you talking about? Like, sharing underwear is what's his guy name? Justin. Justin, use your common sense, bro. That was a crazy thing that I even asked. Well, no, they asked him. Oh, they asked. Underwear. Well, use your con. You need to change your frame. So he's trying to see, he tripping. Justin, no, you're not tripping. I like the brand, but it's like readily available. You don't need your mask.

Like, bro, sharing underwear is crazy. That's crazy. If y'all out there sharing underwear, please stop. I don't know what trend this is y'all are doing, but that's very good. I can't even imagine delivering underwear. I've seen that, but like underwear. Underwear? Yeah, like here, my nigga, I know you need this.

Yeah, like under, like drawers? Maybe, maybe a pair of socks, maybe. I've asked my man for some socks before. Yeah, like socks. Yeah. Like, socks. Yeah. But a nigga ain't never said, yo, ma'amaw.

give me an extra pair of your underwear. Yeah. What? Get out my house. I ask for like a bell. And if I shit myself, I'd say, yo, Ma, I shit myself. I'm going home. Hit me to mall.

Whatever I was doing, whatever we had going on before I shit myself. Yo, Ma, I can't make the live show tonight. It's just you. It's canceled. If I shit myself, everything else after that has been canceled. I agree. I'm going home. That's a bad sign.

Justin, you're not tripping. The homies is either, you know, on some other shit or get new friends, Justin. Yeah, I think Justin should get new friends. Get new friends. I'll ask them. What is appropriate then for guys to share, if not underwear? What's something that would be more appropriate? A belt.

Maybe like a cup of sugar. A belt. I might even give the homie a hoodie. A hat. Get a home of your hoodie or hat. Yeah, yeah, man. But like my underwear? Nah, but come on, man.

We can't do that. We're not sure. And also, two, men clothes are more expensive than women clothes. So it's like you kind of give some of your material or your gear away. Like, that's like a alum. Yeah, we just told my underwear. Yeah. I don't go fuck how much you pay for your underwear.

Yo, a girl stealing your hoodie being the equivalent or your man stealing your drawers is the funnier shit. Yo, my man got my underwear. You know the fellas, man. You can never give them a pair of underwear. You never see it again. What the fuck? That's crazy.

Have y'all dived into that women stealing men's clothes? I mean, I've lived it most of my life. Not even nothing to die. That is crazy, bro. You just got to deal with it. I've lost some great. Yeah, me too. I lost some great.

I remember one time I saw this girl, and it was like the first week of school. and she was like walking around really, nearly like, I'm like, yo, where my hoodie at? She looked at me like I was crazy for asking for that. I like, I like that hoodie. What the fuck? And was fucked up. Somehow the women have like changed the internet to make that seem cute.

Yeah. I want my shit back. Yeah, I want that's mine. Yeah. That's why I'm keeping it. No, I know. When I was in my single days and I had women coming over, I gave them the worst shit.

Of course. Like I gave them the shit that got like a hole in the back. Like you ain't even trying to walk out with that. Yeah. And if you do, I don't care. Yeah. If you do, I don't care. Yeah.

Yeah, you give him the shit that you were already going to give to, like, Goodwill. Yeah. Yep. All right, what's sicker if you give your man some underwear or he gives it back? Imagine lending your man some underwear and he give it back. He'd take him off in the car before you get out. Like, yo, hold up. Don't forget that.

Yo, yo, yo, take these. I got a wash. What if he washes them? Even sicker. Julian. If I ever got to a predicament where my man's needed some draws and I gave him, that's yours now. Do you know what goes down in the drawers?

Let's let's keep it on. If I have a, if they're brand new then I might give my homey the underwear. Like if I have a pack of brand new ethical or whatever. I'm like no, here take that. What's the reason I'm needing it though? That's the thing. Listen man that's the biggest part of it I never walked out. I can see

that. So I'll take that back, Justin. If there's brand new underwear and they say, yo, bring a pair. Well, that's what he said. He said his friend wanted him to pick up a pack and give him one. Oh, oh, oh. Okay, so I didn't. But what was his friend wearing prior? That's what I'm saying.

Like, what were you? He was going to command them. If I meet you at the spot, are you going to run into the bathroom at the club and throw on the Ethicas? Yeah, you got to hand him to him bald up in your hand because give him a dab with the underways. Don't let the girls see you give him the underwear. What's funnier is then the cat you down at the door at the club? Like, what you're doing? Yeah.

What nasty shit you're trying to get off in here? And what type of girls are just fucking you because you got on Ethicus? That's a real question. Like, what do we talk? What is that? What is that about? I gave him some pussy because he's, he had on some ethicas. What? Yeah.

He was sagging in the club. He got ethics on. I saw that band. That's what's up. Is there, okay, well, then let me ask this. Is there a brand of clothing that a woman could wear in our in our situation? Is there a brand that a woman could wear where you'd be like, oh, there's no way I'd hook up with her because she's wearing fill in the blank.

No. I don't care what she's wearing. It's a little hypocritical because I've definitely fucked a lot of women that wore jeans with no belt in black air forces. Some of the best pussy I've ever had. But at this point in my life, that would be a deal breaker.

Some of the best sex I ever had, she had on some some haines. Just take off the black forces. I don't know if I could. That box was incredible. What type of hay? I can't even think. Just the regular cotton joints. The joints that come like in the It was like, no, they had a little

color to them. But they was like, oh. It sounds like they've been worn a lot. No, no, no, no. Not that. They weren't off white the way you thought they No, no, I got streaking her. They had, like, designs on it and shit like that. But I was expecting her because she was a flog, but she just was like, yo, I was chilling today, running errands.

Like, she's had on some basic panties. What was wrong with that? Nothing. It was incredible. Okay. I'm trying to tell you, it was nothing wrong with it. Demarz, do women share underwear? Because I feel like that's even crazier.

Women don't even wear underwear. Women don't even wear underwear. That's why it's going to wear underwear on. You got to look at her, like, that's just like a library. They still make. make you? Like, I don't even know women wear underwear in here.

I've seen women take photos to post on Instagram like in dressing rooms and lingerie. And to me that's fucking disgusting. Why? Like, do you, did you purchase it? Then it's fine. But they usually, I think they have like a- Oh, trying on lingerie and posting?

And they're in dressing rooms. Oh, wow. Yeah, they have a liner in the panties. That's still crazy to me. No, it is. I mean, Victoria's Secret, you could take panties back. Whoa. A girl told me that one time she fucked me.

I was like, wait, you can wear them and bring them back? She's like, yeah, I was like... That's insane. And then what? Like, they just put them back on the, like, the clearance table? Put them on the cell rack. Yeah, they put them on the clearance table. Yeah, they got to put it on clearance.

That's great. No, put those in the furnace. Burn those. Like, we ain't selling that. Nah, that's capitalism, bro. You got to sell it. Awesome. Fucking sick.

We got another one? Uh, yes. We have a follow up. Our friend, Kimo, Clay, just to catch you up to speed. Kimo called in saying he has a beef with the movie finding Nemo. Because when he was a kid, around the time the movie came out, his dad left and his cousins that he went to school with.

He trauma dumped on us. His cousins that he went to school with would always say, damn, bro, like, do you find your dad yet? It became like a whole thing in the family. And his name is chemo. Nemo. And then also, like, in finding Nemo, at least the dad gave a fuck enough to go find his son.

Yeah. Too many layers to how funny that joke is. So his friends did the right thing by making fun of him. Yeah. So he called back. So he's insecure about that. What's up, guys? Kimo again.

I got confirmation. You're good to tell the story. Back in 2018, I went to Camp Longnall with my homeboy Kelvin. Around this time, he was starting to a young lady. Shit wasn't really connected, so they fell off, but they were still cool. Coincidentally, she shot her shot at my homeboy Kent. None came to fruition either, so she spent the block of my boy, Kelvin. So she's...

You're trying to run through the team and failing? She knew me from... Twitter, I guess, but her, but them two was talking, right? Tell me why. Tell me why. She garnered the idea, the thought, the

wherewithal to tell this man, a black man. Hey, you, Kent and Kimo got something in common. It was like, what's that? Y'all really did KKK for real. Like, if you asking yourself,

what race was she? think of the women Julian be fucking I haven't heard this yet I was all offended like we wanted to we didn't want to do harm to a woman because it's not right

but like if we could pay we would so my question to y'all is have you ever had a situation where a girl just says something egregious and you just have to sit there and think about it

you ever just want to beat the shit out of a woman is that what he said well she has you ever want to just wail on a She has consensually tried to run through the whole team. And I'm not one for that group orgy sex. I think it's weird when people run trains on women. But consensually, she's tried to run through the team.

If she says some racist shit, do it for the ancestors. Three, I'll just dog or the fuck out. You heard Clay? I always say that. Clay said, I always say that. You got dog gung holes out. Fuck they face. Yeah, you're like.

It's all consensual. She wants to do it. So I think it would make the ancestors to smile. Yeah. Just dog out that white pitch. You gotta really give it to him. Play missing morale while it's happening. Yeah.

Do it for M. That's crazy. Playing Mr. Moral while you're running around while you got rid of a white girl. It's crazy. The white girl was in Copenhagen. What? Yeah, chemo.

I don't know what you got going on and y'all circle. What's that what the dudes that's calling in now? I don't know. Chemo circles. What's wrong with chemo, man? He's telling him he trying out to put his hands on a woman. He called us for advice. He said if I couldn't I would.

Yeah, like, what? Yeah, that was crazy. What are you talking about, fam? Whoa, bro. And then, like, come on with the dirt shit right now, you're saying if I could pay for it, clearly, that doesn't work either. No.

What are you talking about? Kimo, just, I'll find your dad. I don't know. Yeah, I think you need to approach some of these abandonment issues. Does Kimo know his sister? Does he know his sister? Do he have sisters or siblings? Like, that was...

No, no, yeah. You didn't get into that. Okay, where it was. The only detail he gave was trying to beat up a woman. That's the... Gotcha. And he's trying to find. find his father?

No. He gave up on that. Oh, he gave up, okay. I'm going to say, there's a lot of trauma in this. He ain't tried to fight his dad. His dad is hoping. Because his dad left, he wants to hit women now. That's the leap.

Well, naturally. That's how it, you know, that's how it happened. It's always the woman's fall. Yeah. So do you think that this white woman felt comfortable enough like she thinks she's one of the one of the crew and can get that off? Is that what we think happened here? Because she's tried to run through everybody?

That's all so nasty. I'm going to judge them a bit. if she went with a toddler's festival that didn't work then went to the next guy

then went down to Nemo like no one sees a pattern of like maybe we should keep this crazy bitch away from us they're young though right

yeah they're young but sometimes there's like that thing where like there's that one chick that again at the age that they're at it's like

all just like whatever no one's claiming that it gets weird once someone wipes it is there like ugh yeah it's fucked her face

48 hours ago I think I think it's worse if someone wife's it and nobody beat to me that's way crazy you tried to fuck three of the homies

they all said nah and then you wife to me that's crazier than if all three of my friends fucked her like but what if he was like yo y'all niggas

didn't get to experience what I got to experience it was kind of wild you're like if y'all would have done it y'all would understand yeah I'm not wife and no girl that whether or not she actually went through with it and slept with my homies.

No, no, wife and it's crazy. Wife is crazy in both regards here. But imagine a girl trying to run through your whole group chat and every last one of them says no. And then you're like, this could be the one. Yeah, wife and it. That's the scenario. Yeah, that's good. She's caught, but I don't get why she's calling them the KKK.

I don't get how that checks out. Yeah, me. Just logically that makes no sense. Unless they all their name starts with a K? Oh, wait, y'all didn't get that? Because chemo's, no. Oh, that was her punchline. That was her Tony Hinchcliffe punchline.

I was going to say, if three of them are the KKK, because they all start with K and she tried to talk to all three of them. I was going to say, if she, like, wore, like, the hood in like a linen, like the white linens while they were just fucking her whole shit up. Wait, what did y'all think her joke was about? I didn't get it. Oh, yeah, all three of that. No, it was.

I'm saying I could be wrong too about it. I'm guessing that their name start with K. Yeah, all three of them. have K names. Yeah. I wonder if Kimo's dad's name starts with the Kahn. I love them girls

have bad jokes. She's laughing off. I'm like, ah, ha, I suck this dick, yeah. I feel like Willow's funny, though.

Willow's hilarious. I feel like she has dry humor. Subscribe to Woolow's only her humor is dark. So it's like, yeah, yeah, it's like really. Yeah, you can see that,

Roy? Keeps me and toes. You know, by studying some of her work, I feel like she definitely. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, absolutely. She gives me those vibes.

Oh, man. If you do one more. Do we have another one? Yeah, we can go out on like a higher note. Please. Yeah. Hey guys, what's up? C.C. from Virginia.

Big fan of the pod. I had a question. You know, we're all from New York. I'm from Brooklyn. My uncle's from Brooklyn to Coney Island. I moved down here to NVA to be over closer to my moms. And I had a slow situation. I was pulling into a Walmart parking lot.

And as I was getting a lot, out the car to go in the store, I saw a lady hit up a dude's car trying to park. And eventually, dude kind of like, not found me, because I'm pretty sure I was like leaving the store, but he asked me, like, you know who did this? And I'll tell them like, yeah, I think she parked on the other side of parking lot. That's it. Me and my uncle were talking, and we're trying to define the definition of snitching. Because I always thought it was simply if you're a civilian and it's not something crazy criminal, you're good. But if you out here in the streets doing criminals, you know, money, drugs, whatever it could

do. And you're telling on your peoples or you tell them on people against you, to me, that snitching. But my uncle, he's a little bit older. I think he was born like the 80s. He says, point of like snitching is stitching. It doesn't matter if you're a civilian or not. You're snitching. So I just want to get you guys his thoughts on.

piece. Thank you. People still don't know what snitching is. Mall. This is not snitching. It's just not. Now, should you mind your business, maybe? But this isn't snitching. Snitching is reserved for people that are into

illegal street activities. This is just a Samaritan in the parking lot, notice somebody hit a car, and again, maybe mind your business. It's always that part of it. But if not, if you feel like damn, I should let this person know, like, listen, that car just hit you, whatever,

that's not snitching. That's just not what snitching is. There's nothing that's not no street activity. It's not no, you don't owe any loyalty to that person that hit that car or any, like you don't know that person. Like, that's not snitching. I don't understand people still don't understand

what snitching is. Now, if you and this person were involved in a fucking car insurance scam, And then you went and told like, nah, we set that whole shit up. Yeah. That snitching. But that's not what this is. So, no, I don't, again, I'm always on the side of mind your business.

So maybe just mind your business and just continue shopping or whatever. But if you want to be a good Samaritan and let the person know that, you know, just car hit your car or whatever, like, then that's fine too. I don't know. It's not snitching, though. What if you, like, walked them over and, like, pointed out like it was this one? He, like, wrote down the license plate. again that's still not mind your business I'm with you on that

mind your business not snitching but mind your business I'll be truthful I would have to analyze the person that hit the car to decide if I was going to mind my business enough if you're going to turn into a Karen or not he did say a woman I'm assuming it was a white woman oh yeah so I'm getting the license

that's someone that has a car I would want someone to tell me yeah if they saw someone in my car if it was a white woman hit the car I'm running that car down a white woman in Walmart yeah you know they lived here could have been Asian residency. Yeah. Oh, if it was Asian,

then I'm just helping the community at that because she's going to hit another one. Tony has y'all on one this week. Her whole car looks like a golf ball, just small indents everywhere. I'm like, listen to, we got to get her off the streets, please. Absolutely, yeah, if it's Asian, tell it on them.

Have you guys ever had a moment of Clay? Have you ever had like a good Samaritan moment? Yeah, you left a... Yeah, I did. A young lady at the altar. I saved her. He saved her from his life of red flags. Yeah, well.

I recently snitched on someone that was doing some scamming. So in the Lower East Side right now. What, were they trying to scam you? No. Okay. They're probably going to successfully scam my barber. So there is a lawyer in the Lower East Side, right by Julian's crib. I'll get the exact address on Patreon.

Yeah. Just put the apartment number. Put the drop on me. me. Yeah, go ahead. With the Jan Sport thing, you said damn near the exact block you live on, so I'm not saying anything. What? No, I didn't.

And that was Lulu Levin. There's a scum lawyer in LES right now that is paying somebody that we don't even know if he's really in a wheelchair, is going business to business and finding out who doesn't have a wheelchair accessible thing. Now, to get into my barbershop, there's one step. and I watched them pick this guy's wheelchair up to bring him into the shop and give him a haircut.

He has been hired by this lawyer to just find spots, just wheel around LES, and they're suing everyone in the neighborhood. Damn. That's scum shit to me. So I saw the same person in the wheelchair at the corner store that's one block over

right before I was about to get my haircut. And I told Ack, right when that guy wheeled the fuck out of there, hey, that's an insurance scam right now. Don't let that person in because they're going to try to sue you. So what do they sue you for? Not having a wheelchair accessible.

That's crazy. That's a good fraud. But he's legitimately being hired by this exact same lawyer that's sending him out to do that. And on top of that... Oh, yeah, fuck. On top of that, we have suspicions

that he's not even handicapped. Like, he's just in a wheelchair and they're trying to get over on it. So why you say your barber's going to get scammed? He already... He's been sued. They're in court right now. Wait, what?

Having them? Yeah. It's fucked up. That's fucked up. I snitched immediately to our corner store. Yeah, but even that's not snitching. That's like. But what you, but.

It's the opposite. Yeah. Like, you're helping the community at that point. If your man still got sued, how are you going to save the, uh, corner store? They don't have the wheel's chair accessibility. Anyone that, when, anytime I see that guy wheeling himself around, I know what time it is.

So I just tell people. Yeah. Like, don't let him in. Yeah. Don't let him in. Got you. He's not in here. You realize he came in here and didn't buy nothing.

Like, got you. Got you. damn that's messed up but i did hear that anytime you sue you usually get some type of money from it they said like when in doubt sue because companies don't want don't want that on them you know so that's interesting unrelated uh that jules class class action lawsuit the smoking the original shit that popped off their class action lawsuit starting to pay people out people are getting like upwards of like seven thousand dollars as a payout so they answer well no it's like you know if if a class action lawsuit goes out basically like what Twitter's saying is like just just file for it because more likely more

often than not you will get paid out. But it's been like happening over the course the last couple weeks. People have been getting money hitting their accounts. Yeah, by the time that hits like press, they ran out of money. Like I doubt if you filed now, you'd get that 7K. Yes. Here's one example. Or one example earlier this week. Someone got a 1400. People we're getting like, you know, anywhere from like a couple hundred dollars all the way upwards of like $5,000, $6,000. Yo, before we wrap, all of us in this room are fucked. I don't know if y'all saw the article that came out today that the IRS has hired close

to like a thousand people for a whole new department for independent contractors that use lifestyle in their taxes. Like when I buy clothes, I have a show so I can write that off. Everyone in this room has shit like that. Yeah. They are trying to audit every lifestyle. that's a lot though tax on this

which is fucked up like that shit is still a business expected what's the difference between you needing a stapler for your job of me needing a shirt for mine and now that they're doing that with every lifestyle person yeah no my haircut

that's right off why the fuck wouldn't it be yeah exactly I'm my own camera all the time yeah makes sense oh damn there's a difference thing buying paper and doing that like so what you do do direct write off haircuts. You just kind of like...

I'm on camera. That's a business expense. No, I'm saying. Like, you just, do you, I guess, you keep track of how many haircuts you get? Okay. Interesting. I'm going to... Yeah, I'm doing that for the first time this year. Interesting. And it's not a lie either. Yeah, it's not. No, it's not. Especially on camera all the time. For sure. That's a liability. I don't see the difference with any other business expense for someone else. Like,

yeah. But tax is a dirty game. Them, them criminals themselves. These billionaires are writing off their private planes because they're flying from meeting to meeting. My fucking haircut, you have an issue with IRS? Yeah, for real. Yeah. All right, Clay.

So what else we got going on, man? Man, I'm just kind of keeping the head low. I feel like last time y'all saw me, I ain't been in no trouble since then. Yeah, you know, I just kind of quiet online. I ain't been seeing nothing too crazy. Ain't nothing too crazy, no what I'm saying. So I'm just, I'm on punishment for this year.

I'm hoping that the women will set me back, you know, next year. Yeah. I'm on a good pathway. I hope they'll set me back next year. Yeah. Yeah, they're mad at me. They're like, man,

shut up. Stop talking. I'm just like, there's some beautiful girls on that side too. It's going to take some time to get that off you, get that stench off of you. Like, damn, Claezer, he did my girl Amber dirty. Like, you know, it's going to take a while to get that off of you. Yeah, yeah, it's probably going to be a little while.

You know what I think will help? I think her going on this show. Yeah. And seeing her, like, them seeing her with other guys and, like, I don't want to, what, getting physical with other guys. People are like, oh, like, she's moved on. Like, this isn't. Because I feel like people see something on TV.

And that locks in their memory of who these people are. Yeah. Like, their capacity is like what I've seen and what I know about them. But like seeing you come on here is one thing. But seeing her literally be on an island with a bunch of other guys and doing other things. It's like, okay. Takes the attention off of it. Yeah.

It's like, oh, like life goes on. Like this happened, even though it happened over a year ago, I'm still only beholden to this because this is the only thing I know about them. Also, you probably ran into women that have no idea about the show, though, right? Yeah, I have. I have. Which must be refreshing. That is. I love when people don't know who I am.

it's like honestly the world that I lived in before I did Love is Blind 2023 was amazing year bro oh my gosh I was loved all around from women 24 it's like everybody got stored you know well yeah we saw what you did it's documented like damn like why the fuck yeah I gotta remember that I bring that up why do you gotta remember the show you watch mad niggas got Netflix yeah why yeah got everybody got Netflix like you guys too to a girl like you got Netflix too because I didn't watch Love is Blind before that so I'm kind of like I'm just

shocked that, I mean, people... Because of you, the show has become... You elevated the brand. No, I think... Well, you and A.D. You and A.D. definitely helped elevate the Lovers Blonde brand, without a doubt, which is why they need to pay y'all a big bag

to ever sit on that camera again. I was it. Would you ever do another show like that? A dating show? No, no, no. No. Hague, no. I can't trust a network to bring me the women I want. I can't trust the network to bring me the women I want. That's pimping right.

When AD could say the same thing. I can't trust a network to bring me a man. She trusted them again. She's on perfect match three, so we'll see. We're going to see. No, gross. You sound salty. No problem.

My Clay sound like you selling you a little salt about that, though. You sound like you might still have some feelings for AD on a load. That's my fiance. Was it, nigger? Because I can't say that. You don't think I love AD, bro. I love D. I love D.

I will never say you didn't care and love for A. Bro, like, I get it. I made it. I made a decision. I said, no, I think I made the right decision. I think I did it the wrong place. You get crazy. The wrong time. But like, how did I have films for AD, bro? 100%. Do I want to see AD on that damn show, perfect match season three? I wanted her to find a man organically. Not to go try to find love on the damn island. You don't want that for her. I don't want that for her. You know, and me and her talked about. I might have created this.

I might have, you know, and if that's the case, I apologize, Ad for Lee. You down that past. Yeah. I apologize for fucking your life up, AD. as much as I give Clay a lot of shit, man. I'm still on the side of he did make the right decision. I do believe you cared about her because you made that decision. Because you knew this isn't going to work. This will be way worse if I go through it. No, it wouldn't.

It was fucked up, but I'm still on the side. Yeah. I get it. If Clay would have did that when they was on lunch, you know, like with the mom and all of that, like with 80's mom and he decided like, no problem. Just letting 80 put the dress on his stand. I know. That was crazy.

was like, oh, man. But I'm, this, I don't want to say too much. It's NDA's in place. Yeah. That is a little bit misleaded, like, that I'm the one that made decision go to the altar. I'm not going to speak too much on that, but like, you know, should I have, should I have gone to the altar?

No. Was it my only, without the only one that made that decision? No, I'm just say that. Got you. I get it. I understand that. It's entertainment. It's entertainment, you know?

But real emotions get involved, real feelings develop. 100%. And you obviously do have love for AD. Yeah. And shout out to AD, man. She's killing it all. Her whole storyline with this could be, I'm not touching nobody.

Yeah. I get it. I'm not there yet. I'm just getting back. Now, they got, they got episodes like, this guy just letting me at the altar. I got watched perfect match three.

That's just crazy. Yeah. They'd be having like stuff like, oh, go here and fill her ass and tell, and you got to match who that person is. Like, you got to know who that person. So,

so dudes who are not even matched with her going to be like trying to kiss her and they got to kiss her and they got make out. And they got to say, okay, they got rate the kisses. And then,

like, she's going to be kissing. It's kind of blindfolded or something. She has to kiss them. She's to rate the kiss. Like, perfect match is like a F-boy, like, Paradise Island hookup show. Is Nick Lachie behind this too or what? Nick Lachey is behind this. Of course he is. I said that I should be on a perfect match. That's crazy work and she won't it.

She said that you should be on here? Okay, again, two things can be true. Crazy, but yeah, she kind of has a point. Yeah. She's not wrong. Because if I wasn't his perfect match, maybe he can find his perfect match. Maybe he can find his perfect match. Oh, see?

She's looking out for you. You can't say that while you're on the program. She's trying to find her perfect match. Yeah. She's saying clearly, yeah. She was saying that like a dig. She was like, get his ass up here because if I'm not, it is and maybe it's over here.

Well, A.D., now you're about to find yours. Well, I'm going to be watching. I'm going to be watching. I'm going to be watching. I'm going to be watching. I love it, though. I love it. And she looked great over there, too.

My last request before we close. Is there any way you can connect me with the love as blonde producers, and I can pitch mall as his manager. to the show. We will move this entire podcast to whatever city we need to do for 10 days. Mm-hmm.

For mall. I need to see Mall in one of those pods. They've never done somebody that was of like notoriety before. Yeah. I think Mall to break that mole be the first. Yeah. Influencer love is blind.

That might be hard. You imagine Maul in the pods with the other guys. That would be must-see TV. Mom just around 15 other dudes. Mall, like having a love triangle would be hilarious. See, I get the fighting them niggas in there.

That's my woman. Now, I feel like, I feel like you wouldn't even, you wouldn't say nothing. You would shame every girl like, who was you flirting with an hour ago? Yeah, for sure. Don't be talking to me like this. Hey, Maul would do the same thing I did in a pause when I found out AD was talking to Matt. You would crash out. Yeah, for sure.

Yeah, you would crash out like, you're talking about. I'm not mad at what you did. Finding out, that's the synopsis of the show. Yeah, I know, right. It's to talk to all the guys. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I can't talk to nobody. You was talking to another dude.

Yeah, that's why we're here. No, no, no, no. Tell them you not, cut your talking to nobody else. Yeah, nah, fuck that. It's fragile. It's so fragile. Listen, man, I love you already. We just met, but I love you.

Can't talk to nobody else. Would that be something you'd want to do? Love is blind? I would do love is blind. Just have fun. Even if you don't make it to, like, the honeymoon. Just you in the pods for the first two episodes? Zero chance.

Mall would make you the honeymoon. I don't know, man. No, I don't know. You can't say that. Because I was saying that, I was saying the same thing when I got in there, and I was like, damn, I love this girl. Oh yeah. Are you a little colder? I'm a little older, man. I'm just, you know, cold.

Yeah. Ball's calcified. Yeah. The money bags ain't got no emotion towards it. Well, it's just, I'm just spreading. Purely economical. Yeah, because the economy is down right now. It's a transaction.

I'm trying to keep the economy of floor, you know? I'm deadly serious, though. If there's a way, I would represent Mall in that negotiation. So Chelsea's from season four. I think she's ahead of cast. So I'm going to talk to my boy, Kwami. We'll see if we can put that word in for. for them all, man. That would be hilarious.

They got to do love is blind New York. They still haven't done that. So it's a chance. Man, listen, I don't forget a voice. I'll be in that pile like, Brenda, is that you? Oh, my God. I know all the bitches.

Also, as his love is blind manager, like if he makes it to the honeymoon and then back to the city, plotting with his mom and his sister, that family barbecue, oh, God. Musty TV? Fucking lit.

Yeah. If my family comes together, it's lit. Why is J.D. here? You, having bids at the family barbecue would be the funniest fucking thing. Oh, my God. Is that a Rockefeller chain? Why is J.D.

here? Margo'll give a Rockefeller chain for the gift. Oh, my God. Damn. Doing Chaining Day at the altar? That's our proposal. Yeah, it's the chain already got it. I'm a really rich guy. I got to be the ring bearer.

I got to be there. Oh, I'm definitely bringing Clay on. If I make it to the altar, Clay got to, he got to be, you got to take the... No, I got to be one of the friends. No, no. there, Julian, what did you do for your brother? I was the officiator.

You got to do that. Okay, okay. You got to do that. I'll make it too easy to get certified. I literally have my license. But it would be funny if play doesn't. You can do it with me, Julie. No.

We'll be a B mic. Sharing that, take it. It'd be funny for you to object. You got to be a B mic. I'll object. I would object. Oh, man. Tickets available now.

We will be in Atlanta, November 22nd. And then December 14th, we will be here in New York City at the Gramsie Theater. Tickets available now. at new Rory Mall.com. Damaris planning, your bachelor party would definitely get you divorced. That would be a great episode too. Yeah.

Listen, man. You know, baby D putting together the bachelor party would be. I'm down. Let's make it happen. Clay, my brother's good seeing you, man. Good seeing you, bro. It's fun.

This is fun. Coming back on. Appreciate you being here, man. Love is Blind season seven. The reunion is Wednesday, this Wednesday. So I guess we'll talk about it once we see it and have some fun.

Clay, you got to come back whenever you get a chance to, man. Y'all might come, that. Y'all, y'all, Atlanta the 26. Was it a live show? 22nd, yeah.

Oh, 22nd? Yeah. I'm going to come down for that. Yeah, man. They're going to be out there. Yeah, that'll be hard. Have some fun. Yeah.

All right, y'all, be safe. Be blessed. Have a good week. We'll talk to y'all soon. I'm that nigger. He's just ginger. Love is blind. No.

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