New Rory & MAL - Episode 325 | Wacced Out Morals
Episode Date: December 3, 2024Happy Tuesday Gang! We're back from Thanksgiving break. After a quick recap about how Rory destroyed his skin barrier and Mal took a serious loss, we recap what we missed during our time off. Kai Cena...t concluded his Mafiathon stream and we discuss some of the highlights, including Druski being mean to children, and Kai being pranked by a magician (27:47). Da Baby is under fire for teaching his daughter how to shoot a gun, and we speak on how different the outlook on guns is depending on the region of the USA you come from (40:21). We come back and give a more detailed opinion on the Drake petitions- Rory has his tinfoil du-rag on, coming in hot with a few conspiracy theories about Drake as well as Kendrick (42:18). After a brief debate about Beyonce v. Kendrick and the supposed numbers for their respective NFL show audiences (1:10:16), we discuss J. Cole celebrating his 10 year anniversary of the 2014 Forest Hill Drive album, and having a one night only concert at Madison Square Garden, with some interesting ways for fans to secure a ticket (1:28:09). We have voicemails! The first one is from a man asking our opinion on the biggest “fall off’s” from artists in rap (1:38:52), and we debate who our choices would be. The second voicemail is from a man who needs co-parenting/disciplinarian advice for him and his girl (2:10:02).For MORE Rory & Mal, make sure you subscribe to our Patreon community, for exclusive episodes, first access to tickets and merch sales, private live chats with the team, + more! https://www.patreon.com/newrorynmalFollow Rory: @ThisIsRoryFollow MAL: @MAL_ByTheWayFollow Julian: @Julian__nicholasFollow Demaris on YT: https://www.youtube.com/@DemarisG To watch the podcast on YouTube: https://bit.ly/NewRoryAndMALYouTube Don’t forget to follow the podcast for free wherever you're listening or by using t Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoicesSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Yesterday somebody whacked out my mural.
That energy will make you niggas move to Europe.
But it's regular for me, that's for sure.
The love and hate is definite without a cure.
All his talk is bitch made that's on my lord.
I kill them all before I let him kill my joy.
I'd have been through it all with you endure.
It used to be fuck that knicker, but now it's Pearl.
Fuck everybody.
That's on my body.
My blick first.
Then God got me.
I watch them pander with them backhanded compliments.
Put their head on the Cuban link as a monument.
I paid homage and I always mind my business.
I made the...
I never lost who I am for a rap image.
There's motivation if you wonder how I did it.
And we are back from holiday.
One of my favorite holidays.
Not for what it represents,
but just because there's no pressure.
Just show up and eat.
That's what you got to do for Thanksgiving?
Yeah.
There's no pressure to get people gifts,
certain traditions.
Just bring a dish.
Shut the fuck up and enjoy yourself.
Yeah.
How was your Thanksgiving?
It was cool, man.
Went down to us, sort of family.
We hung out with the fan for a couple of days.
I haven't seen them in a little minute.
So it was cool to catch up with everybody.
When we did our Thanksgiving plate draft, if you will, on Patreon,
how did your plate fear against what you picked in the draft?
Mine was pretty on par.
I was actually, I thought it was kind of weird.
It was close.
It was pretty close to the, I tried to keep it on par with that.
But I had to, I still obviously had mac and cheese.
Well, I was at the edge of my seat this entire time.
You decided to break your vegan virginity or like you popped your,
you popped your meat cherry.
Meat cherry?
Hey, yo.
For those that don't know, Moll has been vegan for God knows how long.
And he decided four years.
Four years and decided he was going to break his hymen.
Yeah, but I'm back though.
Just one day.
Just for the pilgrims.
Not for the Native Americans.
No, no, no, for the pilgrims.
I did it for the pilgrim.
Yeah, absolutely.
Did you wrap yourself a blanket, a disease blanket afterwards?
Yeah.
All right, so mac and cheese.
Yeah, I had the mac.
Real Mac.
Real Mac.
Like, real Mac.
Yeah, yeah, real Mac.
Okay.
Yeah, cow mac.
What was the bathroom like shortly after?
Nothing, man.
It didn't, my stomach wasn't upset at all.
Okay.
Did you make sure, like, some fiber or something to make sure he was okay?
No, literally my stomach was, has been fine.
It's normal.
Yeah, it wasn't, I was, I was waiting for the moment to feel like some gripes and some pains and things like, no, it was pretty cool.
I think because I had, I only had a little bit, only had a little bit of Mac, a little bit of stuffed salmon.
So I didn't go too crazy.
It wasn't stuff in my face with a bunch of shit.
Did it bring back memories of like what food tasted like?
Nah, not really.
Okay.
As soon as I ate it, I was just like, I'm not missing nothing.
Okay.
Yeah.
I don't think I could ever cut mac and cheese out of my life, but anything else?
You said you were going to do salmon?
I had salmon.
That didn't do anything at all either?
Nothing.
Oh, well, I'm disappointed.
I thought we were going to have a disgusting bathroom story.
You wanted me to projectile vomiting?
Like, no, man.
Now, if I would have did, like, some ox tail or something like that, like, if I would
have went all the way down that rabbit hole, then I would probably still be in the ER.
But, no, I didn't go too crazy.
Okay.
What made you want to actually do that this time?
I don't know.
I just wanted to, I missed the taste of, like, meat, certain fish and things like that.
So I just tried that.
Do you think maybe you'll go back to the pest?
Pescaparian?
Nah.
Presbyterian?
Pescipatarian?
I'm done, I'm done, man.
Pesimistetarians?
I'm done.
I'm back on my,
I'm about to do a 10-day juice cleanse.
Okay.
Yeah, I'm done.
I'm done with that shit.
But it was cool.
It was cool to kind of taste,
you know, that taste again,
but I'm not missing nothing.
It's like some whole ghost of pussy past.
Yeah, it's,
you had to run it back one more time.
Yeah, you know when you call it and you're hook up again,
you just like, nah, let me just move on my life.
I was just horny.
Yeah, that's it.
That's all.
The memory was better than what it really was.
Exactly, man.
It wasn't all that I thought it was going to be.
Like, I thought I was going to have this whole feeling of,
oh, yes, I missed this.
It was just like, I.
That's how I feel with certain women, but the opposite.
Like, I don't want to beat again because they have like a good idea of me.
Yeah.
I don't want to ruin that with what it actually was.
Right.
Keep that good false memory you have of how that went.
Yeah.
So I don't want to run it back.
But it wasn't too bad, though.
Well, mine was cool.
Mine was low-key.
Secondary burns.
That's pretty much as far as it really went.
But other than that, it was a really cup.
You were cooking or did you pick up something that was hot?
So it was the day before Thanksgiving.
It actually had nothing to do with Thanksgiving.
Okay.
Being father of the year,
had the broiler on with a frying pan in there,
with steak in the broiler.
Okay, in the oven.
Yeah.
Okay.
Oven on broil.
Got you.
So I took, I opened the door.
Here comes Amara out of the fucking left field.
I full on grab with my hand the frying pan.
like full on grab it to push it out of the way.
I felt my skin come off when I took my hand off of it.
Wait, so the pan was in the oven.
Open the oven door, right?
And the oven is on, like, it's not up here.
It's down here.
It's where a child could.
Amara at a left field runs towards it.
So why not grab Amara?
I don't know, Maul.
I'm not saying I'm a smart human being.
Close the oven door and grab a bar.
No, no, the whole thing was out.
Like, I couldn't have closed the oven.
Everything would have went up if I,
Put the door like that.
Oh, I see what you're saying.
The sliding great part.
You are correct.
But I was over the oven.
So the only logical thing at the time to me felt like moving the pan that I could see she was going after.
She grabs.
She goes grab shit.
She's a toddler.
You got to layer out.
Yeah, you got to.
I know.
I know.
I made the wrong move.
You were supposed to close line a mall at that point.
I know.
You supposed to hit her with the, give me that Cooper de Gene.
Yeah, my hand still would have hurt, but it wouldn't have been the same.
You were supposed to attack.
with her like
lay her out
like junior say out
and then I didn't feel anything
for like the first 15 minutes
then my hand started to feel like
it was actually like
someone had lit it on fire
it was numb so I was like I'm gonna walk up
to CDMD
and I walk in
and of course it's actually dead empty in there
day before Thanksgiving
and the woman at the front desk
sees that my hand is wrapped up
and goes we have our first Thanksgiving injury
that's so embarrassing
I was like wow
I wasn't even even
cooking Thanksgiving. I was cooking dinner
just now. Did you run your hand under cold water to stop it from
burning now? Not burning. I feel like Wolverine because this shit looked
disgusting the next day. But like, you know, I'm all right.
It's just, you're just white. Are you supposed to run it underwater? What are the
immediate steps after that? Cold water to stop the, because even when you remove your
hand, your hand is still burning. Yeah. So to prevent your hand from continuing to burn,
you have to kind of like running eggs under cold water to stop them from cooking.
Okay. Yeah, it's like that.
running eggs under like
like when you're boiling
I thought you meant scrambled day
that's what I was like
no boiling boiled eggs
so that they don't overboating
it's been a while
since I ate scramble day
I'm gonna say who is doing that
like what is going on
on here?
Same thing with pasta
and things like that
to stop it from cooking
because the heat continues to cook
yeah okay
so now your hand feels like a leather glove
yes that's exactly what it feels like
yeah
touch it maw
what I mean it's bad here here
is it warped
it was before
it's definitely went down
Like this morning is the best by far.
Like Jay Leno?
Yeah.
It was bad.
Did you have the bubbles?
Like the bubble?
Oh, hell yeah.
Ew.
Yeah, it was gross.
It was really, really nasty.
Yeah.
And then we're dick beating for you.
I hate that.
I'm a lefty.
Yeah.
Sorry.
Yeah, Mara would have been laid out though.
My daughter?
I'm not grabbing a hot ass.
I don't want this big a sound like I was, I didn't want to lay out my daughter.
That would have been the smarter thing to do.
If I could redo that.
Yeah.
Clos line.
Like knocked out.
Why would?
And then why were you opening the oven without like an oven mitt or anything in your hand?
No, I did with my left.
And when she came, I went like this because I was trying to block her from not only the frying pan that she was going after, the oven itself that was open.
Got you.
So it was like this.
Yeah.
And then I realized I was holding a fucking frying pan that just came out of a 500 degree broiler.
Did you scream?
You screamed a little bit?
No, because I didn't feel that adrenaline.
Yeah, I didn't feel anything.
going.
And then...
So his daughter, he was like...
Then, when I took my hand off, though, I could feel like skin actually coming off.
And then it was...
I ran right to the sink.
Sad was like, all right, that hurt a little bit, but I'm fine.
15 minutes later, I felt like someone poured gas on my hand.
Yeah.
That's when that's how it burns in, it's like, all right.
Yeah.
You start feeling a pulse in your hand.
Yeah.
So that was before we even got to the real cooking.
Now that we know you're okay
What a fucking idiot man
Well did you cook anything for Thanksgiving?
Did you bring a dish?
No, I planned on cooking
But obviously my injury stopped me
So thank God my family helped out
And I didn't have to
I just ate and chilled
Oh was that your house?
You did at your house?
Did the first half of my house
Then my cousins and Paramus
Okay
So two days
So
But I'm back
Well that's good man
Glad you're back
Julian posted a picture in the chat
of his dad's famous cranberry sauce.
Right out the can, baby.
Peach did too in the group chat.
I saw the expiration date on the side of it.
Last Thanksgiving?
How long as that can be sitting in the cabinet?
You just see their ribs in the...
But having expired canned goods is a different level.
Yeah.
Nah, you'd be surprised.
You'd be surprised.
Yeah, my parents, we definitely...
I think when we did some spring cleaning at some point,
there were cans in there from like pre-9-11.
Oh, no.
That's crazy.
I definitely...
because Kea's spot is the spot she grew up in and her parents moved out.
When I've left the cans, I've cleaned out, I've cleaned out shit in the back of her food pantry that is older than her.
Yeah.
Like, yo, how did no one even like, this pantry is not that big?
No.
Somebody could have saw this camp.
The seasonings.
My mother has seasonings from the early 2000s.
Every time I go home for Thanksgiving, I'm like looking at it.
She's like, yo, I got some bacon sold up there or I got some Italian season.
My dad's tallian season is old as fun.
That season in there sitting like crack rock.
That shit ain't moving.
There was stuff I was pulling from Kiers where I'm like, damn, I don't even know they had expiration dates in 01.
Yeah.
Like, I thought that was a new thing.
Yeah, you just had to figure it out the sniff test.
Yeah, it had the same stamp test.
Yeah, it tasted.
Like, that's expired.
What's crazy is, though, I appreciate whoever came up with the font for the expiration date, like universal font, that's been for like 20 years.
Yeah.
They have not yet.
One of years, more than that.
I'm not that old.
Yeah.
You're 30 something.
I know, but I wasn't, like, checking expiration dates before.
Really?
Yeah.
I didn't read expiration dates as a kid?
I did.
I was,
I was watching 106 and Park beating off.
He was checking the lotion expiration days.
All right,
which segment of 106 of Park were you beating off on?
Well,
we've done the...
He said,
he said,
the freestyle Friday.
All right.
You don't find a way to call him gay.
He was jacking off the Blind Fury.
Oh, poster boy.
That Blind Fury is something else, man.
That'd be sick because Blom Fury was not too long ago.
That would have been like recent.
I'd be like, six.
team. No, you been like
20. Julie was jerking off like
Bow Wow, number one again. Let's go.
I'm sorry.
That was fucking hilarious.
Bow wow number one again. I probably beat off from DET uncut though.
Not 106.
Oh, BT Uncut, that's different.
That Nelly Tip drill video was a
Yeah, definitely probably. It was a staple.
Yeah, but that's like, that's like amateur hour
compared to how. But you know what's funny? If you look at tip drill
video today, that shit is the most regular basic video.
Not crazy at all. Not even a little.
Like you see.
crazier videos of a girl promoting just like protein powder on IG now.
Like there's that trend of a...
But we even say that with like asses now too.
Yeah.
Asses we thought were crazy when I was a kid are like,
that girl, man.
She'd be called no ass.
I can't, to this day, I can't believe I sat home and waited for the countdown for
Cisco's thong song video.
Not a one thong.
Looking at that video now, I'm like, this shit is a gap commercial.
What is this shit?
The wave of a video.
The wave of influencers now on Instagram
that like fake read
and they'll just have their back to the camera
and they'll just do like the balance thing
and the ass will just go
That's better than tip drill
It is.
They are we are simple creatures
That works every time
Nellie swipe that credit card
She reads as much as LeBron
A pretty dressed ass
Yeah
Like she was pretty covered up by today's standard
Crazy
But yeah definitely ran through that
Anyone else?
How was everyone else's Thanksgiving?
BabyD posted that
motherfucking
Potato
salad with that pat on top. Yeah,
she posted that, ooh. Yeah, I made
the potato salad this year and it was absolutely
phenomenal. My aunt
went to my mom and told her I did it better than her. She had to
just eat it. She had to sit with it.
Damn. She did. Yeah, I went off this year.
Damaris posted her turkey and said the MVP
of the deal of the day. So I just want
to put that out there. It was my turkey.
And my glazed ham. I had a brown
sugar, orange glazed ham.
Now you guys respect glazed ham.
I love that. That was my first draft. I don't
I don't eat ham, but I do respect ham.
ham when it's done right. A lot of people don't do it right. I did it right. I can't speak for you.
That was my, that was my Dwight Howard and like you guys laughed at it.
Your Taiwanese Dwight Howard. That was my Dwight Howard. That was your Washington Woods
Dwight. He's glazed some hand before. That's all I'm saying.
That joke had layers and I want some appreciation for it. All right. So did you like,
I had glazed ham too. I was so excited. I'm pissed at it. And while I was eating it,
I was paused thinking about you guys. Like how, how did they shit on glazed ham?
Glazed him. Nobody shit on glazed him.
I was laughing at Julian's butternut squash the entire weekend.
I can't believe he had that on this list.
I had it over the Thanksgiving.
I fed my dog back for Thanksgiving.
That is what you feed your dog.
He's very healthy.
That was his special treat.
Butter squash is delicious.
Fuck you guys.
It is.
I'm not saying it's not.
But at Thanksgiving, it's not something that, you know what I mean?
I can honestly say I don't think I've ever even tasted butternut squash.
That's how like.
non-existent, it's been in my world.
Buttern-a-squash at Thanksgiving is like,
come on, man, what are we doing, man?
Like, not but-in-a-squash.
Did you have it at your Thanksgiving?
Yeah, we did.
It was chill.
It was just three of us.
No one was home.
It was just me, my mom and dad.
Yeah, I read something online, but everybody was like...
That's because your brothers are all running for the new Democratic nominee.
Somebody on social media said,
Todd, I'm saying the holidays don't hit the same no more.
It's because we're the new adults.
Yeah.
Like, we got to cook.
We got to do dinners at a...
And I was like, you know what?
It's our tradition.
That is a valid, valid point.
Like, we have to be the ones that are like,
I had dinner at my house this year.
Carry on tradition.
We have to.
Like, nods had.
I tell people all the time I don't get excited for Thanksgiving.
Like, I don't get to get cute and wear a cute outfit and, like, play little games and drink wine.
Like, I was, by the time everybody ate, I still have my apron on.
Like, it's not fun for me at all.
I don't look forward to it.
Baby, Dee, one day, you're going to make some man very happy.
That's the nicest thing you ever said to me.
Yeah.
You are.
I was waiting for like the butt.
See, look, man, they always wait.
You know, I'm serious.
You got a white man, do?
She was in the kitchen all day Thanksgiving.
You know what?
She's going to make somebody else.
She fucking belongs.
That's a true Republican right there.
Because you're such a great cook.
Oh, go to hell.
Oh, fucking hell.
I smoked hookah on Thanksgiving.
Why?
I don't know.
My cousin makes good hookah.
I haven't smoked hookah in a really long time.
She's really good at it.
Makes good hookah.
I'm telling you.
I'm telling you.
I'm telling you.
No, no.
She pokes holes inside the photo.
I don't know what she does.
She won't tell us the recipe.
It's Shisha.
Yeah, like what?
No, but no, y'all don't smoke enough hooker to know.
No, y'all don't know.
Y'all don't smoke enough hooker to know.
People make hook up very badly.
Like, set the hook up very badly.
So when you have somebody that sets it up, it's not burning, it lasts for a long time.
The smoke is great.
Like, that's a keeper.
Yeah.
Amara had no screen time through that iPad in front of her.
Yeah.
Went right back to my college days.
Give me some of this hookah.
Let me breathe in.
all this toxins.
Huka for things.
What flavor was it?
Wow.
I don't know.
It's her own recipe.
Wait, she makes Shisha?
I think.
She mixes.
She probably mixes it.
She has like her own, yeah, her own mix.
She's not growing Shisha in the backyard.
Oh,
like, can you even do that?
I don't know.
That's what I was like,
who is your cousin?
We need to talk.
No, she,
but she puts like her own concoctions together.
Oh, okay.
She seasons the,
yes.
Okay, got it.
I get it.
She glazes the hooka.
Yeah, that's what I had a little pineapple in there,
a little orange,
I get it.
But yeah, I went crazy.
That was my crazy event of Thanksgiving.
All right.
It was good to hear.
Everybody had a good time.
Pige, you all right?
You're all right?
You're good?
I got to check on my God for you.
What do you think the conversation?
He's a man of many words over there.
I text Pige over the holiday weekend.
He said, I'm in the streets right now.
So I don't even want to know what Pee's in.
Kansas?
All right, we're here.
Is the day before Thanksgiving still like a thing?
Black-O-Wis-Wis-Z.
I didn't black out, but I did go out.
That's what it's called Blackout Wednesday?
Since we're now the adults that have to actually create the Thanksgiving,
I want to know the generation below us if they still get blacked out on Wednesday nights.
Yes.
Yeah, like everyone's home.
It's a big night.
I went out on Blackout Wednesday.
I never knew it was called Blackout Wednesday, though.
Where did you go?
You went to like a club?
I was in Syracuse.
No, we went.
So in Syracuse, we go bar hopping, like downtown.
And I went to like three bars.
and yeah, my turkey went in the oven very late the next day.
But what I've realized is now that we are the new adults,
I can't do Blackout Wednesdays anymore.
It's going to start being like me and my home girls
doing everything for Thanksgiving, Wednesday night, like, sipping wine.
I can't, I can't do it anymore.
Go out and then wake up at 7 o'clock in the morning and cook.
I can't do it anymore.
When you go out in Syracuse, they recognize you now.
They know Baby D?
They knew me before this podcast, babe.
That's what sucks.
They know the pod.
But they may have known you for other reasons, though.
Derek.
from that lyrical venom.
Yeah, I was knowing as, you know.
Oh, I left that one part.
I had to take Amara to the same city MD Thanksgiving morning
because her daycare emailed us that the whole daycare was diagnosed with some sickness.
RSV?
Yeah, that's shit.
What is that?
It's like a bad cold.
COVID for kids.
It fucks with your lungs and shit.
So we took our first thing in the morning.
I'm back in with my wrapped hand.
It hadn't been enough time for shit.
to change. Same whole staff. And they said, what happened now?
You're back. That's so embarrassing.
They'll call child services on you in the minute.
The two best, I wouldn't call it hospital because it's city MD. But doctor visits I've ever had.
No wait time, no one at all. Like, I invite everyone to get sick or hurt themselves on
holidays. There's nobody in there. Yeah, I don't, I don't recommend going to the hospital on
holidays. Until 12 o'clock. When everybody's got to get fucked up. Let that shit. You got let that shit.
Easton, you get fucked up.
Let that shit air dry.
Yeah.
If you get shot, let that shit drip dry.
Fuck it.
I'd be so scared to deep fried turkey.
I think I'm too pussy for that.
Yeah, you shouldn't.
I don't recommend it.
I can't even take a skill it out of the oven.
Yeah, you don't try to deep fry on turkey, please.
You just what, hang it over the thing and then just drop.
No, no, no, no, no.
See you're some of my plopping, hot grease.
You're already about to go back to the same city MD once again.
Like, don't do that.
Julian, can you YouTube accidents?
Those are some of my favorite YouTube videos.
They like the whole neighborhood on fire.
Look at what you doing your free time.
There's an arsonist over here.
You guys weren't like arsonist as kids?
No.
I'm an aries.
I'm still arsonous.
I was.
I had a phase and then like a kid I knew literally burned his family's house down.
I was like,
I should probably hang it up.
Wait,
you burned somebody's house.
No, like a kid I know was also like in the streets with me on some arson shit.
On some arson shit.
I thought you came in the game as a writer.
Oh, now your pen is the fire.
But he actually burned his like family's house down.
So then I was like, this isn't good.
We should stop.
I never arsend in front.
front of my house. It was always other places.
Parks were... Yeah, you don't do it at your house. Yeah, he was
reckless with it. But I felt like that was always a thing
for kids. Like, that was like a right of passage. You just have to
play your matches. Well, that's why I learned the matches trick. Because I was like,
I have to graduate. I can't light fires. I have to...
No, you have to start the fight and hide the match.
Yeah, exactly. Yeah, I get it. I can't be jammed up. Yeah. I can't go to
juvie. Yeah. Um, that's how Peach learned the nickel trick, too.
the fire department deep frying your turkey is hilarious
so this is a video of the fire like how I know that fireman's good at cooking as well as good at fire
this is them doing a demonstration of how dangerous deep frying a turkey can it can become
first of all it's the it's one of the stupidest process is ever this is an awful idea
but when you do it correctly have you guys ever had like a good fried turkey there's nothing like
i've never had it so what causes the is it because people don't like
dry their turkeys off enough is that oh my god that looks awful
Yeah, you should never put it in frozen turkey into hot fucking grease.
Yeah, that's just like a high-y-d-win-all.
Yeah, you can't put a frozen turkey into hot grease.
That's just not- So I'm assuming that you have to make sure that the turkey is temperature.
Oh my God.
Yeah, I think that's just like standard.
Let the turkey throw out, like season it.
Yeah, I don't know the process.
I can just assume putting a frozen turkey into that would not end up being.
Yeah, like water.
There is a pattern here.
Water, oxygen.
Grease.
Fire is just not.
It's only white people
where these accidents seem to happen.
That is insane.
I feel like if you
own a deep fryer like that,
you would know that water and hot oil
are like not the best mix.
Yeah, it's not for everybody.
They do have people that will like,
you know, you could drop your turkeys off
and they'll deep fry them for you.
I found out Popeye's sells occasion turkey.
I saw on Thanksgiving.
On my timeline.
They have like catered.
I saw two different people order it.
Catered Thanksgiving from Popeyes.
There was a viral.
photo that's going out. Yeah, someone said this shit
looked like a pigeon. Yeah. What? That wasn't
on my actual. Pop-I's sales.
You can pull up and get a fucking frozen turkey.
It's already seasoned from Popeyes.
Oh, okay. I thought you might
like they cook it for you.
No, I think you cook it. No, this is what it looks like.
But they had all the sides and everything.
That's not a bad, like.
I'm good.
$50. If you're in an apartment or like, you can't go home or something,
that's a pretty good compromise, no?
Just buy a regular turkey and season it yourself.
Yeah, like I'm sort of.
I'm just not trying to...
Now we don't like Popeye's seasonings.
I just feel like my aunt or my mom could season...
This is $50, by the way, if you were to get your full turkey from Popeyes.
There's like groups of people that live out of the city that they live in and like do their...
I think that's how Friendsgiving started, right?
Yeah.
People do Friendsgivings.
Yeah.
And some, you know, people in their early 20s may not know how to cook either.
I could just throw a Popeye's turkey in the oven.
Wait, that's pretty.
This is it posted being cooked.
That looks nice.
Nice.
I'm not rolling.
I'm not rolling.
I'm not picking up a turkey from Popeyes and then going home and cooking it.
I thought we was going to die from the chicken sandwich.
Would you want me to take a Popeye's turkey to the crib?
Yeah, no, I'm cool.
Who's the designated turkey cutter in everyone's family?
My mom without a question.
Me?
Yeah, probably my mom.
I've gotten better.
I don't know to cut a turkey for shit.
How do you wish you're going to end up back in the city?
What's your breakdown?
What should you go to first?
Well, I don't know the anatomy.
It's not like operation.
Do you like white or dark meat?
Both?
Well, you know what a breast is, you know what a leg is.
Of course, yeah.
Okay, so what do you hit first?
The leg.
Okay.
Yeah, then, yeah, I work my way to the middle.
I think.
I don't think I ever had a process.
I just went in there and just did what I did.
Just freestyle?
I just waiting to say, anybody finished getting a piece,
and I'm just like, all right, it's already butcher at this point.
Nah, I cut it up for everybody.
Like, I cut it up and put it on a platter for everybody.
You're going to make somebody.
I'm telling you.
baby day. It's going to happen for you. This because people don't know. I don't want nobody
fucking up my turkey. People just be going there just chopping. That's me. That's me.
Yeah, no. One day I was so hungry. I was so high. I cut that shit with a spoon. I went right to
the breast and caught. I said, cake or turkey? What's funny is it was fresh. I probably worked.
Definitely worked. That shit was so soft. I was like, ooh. Hell yeah. Fuck that knife.
Well, glad everyone had a good holiday break. Did you guys watch Kai's Thanksgiving stream
with Kevin Harden-Drewski? I saw clips. I didn't. I didn't.
didn't watch the entire thing.
Clearly, I had other things going on.
Yeah.
Drewski called a kid fat and made him cry.
Yes.
Oh, I'm sorry.
Good.
That kid may go on to do great things because of that bullying.
Yeah.
You need that.
You have to look at it in that.
It adds character, man.
We got to, sometimes you got to just do kids, you know what I mean, give them that
teaspoon of buckleys and just, I mean, like.
And then like, it's not that bad of an insult because he can just look at him,
be like, you fat too.
Yeah.
I would like twin.
Right.
Right.
There you go.
And Druski may have been doing like some subtle encouragement.
Like, look, I'm fat and look how successful and funny I am.
Like, you could do it too.
Yeah.
Oh, so wait, he was called.
He was called a fat nigga on the stream.
Here, listen.
So this is, so Kai had a, it was his family.
Well, not fair.
It was really Drewski, Kevin Hart.
His family.
I think one of the James brothers was there.
And then he hired these actors to play the Adams family.
And the little boy in the Adams family that he cast it as his fat little kid.
So, Kai is really just living like a little kid's dream.
Yeah.
Like he just has money to be like, all right, you know what?
Let's put the Adams family on this.
So then this is how that, this is the clip that went viral.
You know, I didn't actually see the clip, but Drusky is fucking a little.
Come on, bro.
You know, my.
Cover his hair.
When it comes to the kid without me.
Yo, I didn't actually see the clip, but Drusky is fucking.
My name is so funny.
This is a character.
like this entertainment and the kid was obviously playing a character too like I don't know man
now the kid went back and complained to his mom no his mom's a fucking loser for doing that I love
that druski's plus one is the I don't give yeah it's about nothing but the tide yeah I love that guy
so much but I don't publicly say it because I'm sure the hard R is going to come out eventually
oh yeah they asked him who he voted for and he was like Trump and you can just see like
Drewski pie and like all the people in the room were just like
Who did you think he voted for?
It was so funny.
I'm surprised he didn't just give a piss about nothing but it's odd.
Yeah.
That guy is hilarious.
That shit, that whole, that shit is so funny.
Yeah, Willie.
Wait, this.
The internet has made so funny.
Not be famous.
Wait, this is so, this shouldn't be this funny.
What's wrong?
Okay.
No, I just, I did.
Well, we knew, but, um.
Yeah, we, well, Willie, we kind of knew.
Yeah.
You can sit up.
Yeah.
I kept trying to get out of frame.
We knew he voted for.
Yeah.
Thank you, Willie.
Who else did they think Willie voted for?
You vote for.
Yeah.
Who else did they think Willie voted for?
What is the other? He didn't even know who the other candidate was.
The only other answer would be there was an election.
Like what? It's the only other answer.
So here's the woman, the mother of the little, the little fat kid.
Stop. He's fat.
It's baby weight. He's fat. And then the mom said this was, it was abuse.
Channing Tatum looked just the same at that age.
Why do you know that?
Trying to encourage the kid.
This is my little boy that was that was at Christenet's house last night.
Hello.
All right, man.
All right.
All right.
No.
This kid is going to be a star
because he's clearly in on the joke too.
Yeah, yeah.
He's an actor.
All right.
I get it.
I see what's going on now.
That's a momager right there.
That shit had me cry.
You know, in character.
You're in character right now.
Because, well, I'm supposed to be Pugsley
from the Adams family, so you mostly don't talk.
Then he insulted me,
Drewski.
Drusky insulted me
Multiple times
He only said one thing
And if you check on the YouTube video
They cut it out
Okay my bad
My bad punch
Brom James Jr.
And
Kaisnav
So
Wait, Brony was there
Brony was at the table
How did I miss Brony in that
Ronnie was there?
Oh, Bryce
Or Bryce
It was Bryce
I think Bryce
I said isn't Brony
He's fucking working
He's not
He's refusing to work
Ronnie doesn't play
Roe games
You know his contract right now.
Bronn fucked him up so much, man.
Wait, what happened?
He doesn't play road game?
Well, he's, they bumped him down to the G League,
but now Brony has a thing where he doesn't travel with the team.
He only plays home games in L.A.
But he gets paid $10 million.
$55.
Listen, man, 55 pick.
An NBA drive.
I like it.
Nepotism.
Finally, we experienced it.
So, like, this guy is saying LeBron James Jr. was there.
He hugged him.
Can you keep playing this?
I'm sorry
With that
They wouldn't let me get my son
Security would block me
The person in charge
Of
Telling me what's supposed to go on
Was saying that my son was crying
Because he didn't get no food
Which is that
That's funny
That's funny
That's funny
So let me guess now
They're trying to sue guys
Yeah they're just trying to sue
They're trying to sue jerusalem
They're trying to sue Drewsey now
probably Kai
Go for Kai.
Yeah.
Oh, okay.
Sue Kai.
That's an amazing opportunity.
And if you were smart,
you would like make your son
in new Terrio but like successful.
Like you would like ruin life.
Like what you?
How did the matter of saying make your son
a new terrio but like successful?
You capitalize this moment and ruin your son's life.
Isn't lean into the algorithm lady?
I think Terry is playing hockey football.
He definitely got healthier,
which is great to see.
He's an NIL deal.
He definitely had a.
rough childhood. Did you guys see
so I also on Kai
Kai was going crazy this weekend. The magician
that like did the trick like he
hung like he hung himself. Yeah. Oh shit
I saw that. And Kai was fucking freaking.
Do you guys believe that it was, do you guys believe
it was real or do you think it was all staged?
Staged. Yeah, I think this entire thing was
everything is staged. Which I mean is fine.
I'm not shitting on them for thinking it's staged.
It's just staged.
I wouldn't be surprised if Kai's team
knew but Kai didn't know. I'm
really into magicians. Pause.
Like, I think, you know, well, just because I didn't like your tricks doesn't mean you have to a-o me.
You're not my type.
That's all.
I like the craft of magicians.
But there's that other side of it that's, like, it's not magic.
Like when David Blaine would, like, sit in a box for like six years or whatever.
Like, that wasn't, it's not magic.
Don't do that.
Don't, because you definitely went to Times Square when David Blaine was out there for a week.
I tuned in.
I did not know.
No, no, you went downtown.
See, that's why I can't fuck with Rory.
He's lying.
You definitely went down there.
You went to Times Square
and look at David Blaine in that box
right outside of the MTV Studios.
Don't lie.
I maybe peaked in like Jerry Jones
just to see what was going on.
Of course you did.
Some of that stuff, like,
is it magic to me.
It's just like, what the fuck?
David Blaine does endurance stunts.
It's not so much magic as it is like training your body
to survive.
But he does the magic stuff too.
That other side.
This water thing was cool.
It isn't magic.
This is like,
no,
that's just training your stomach.
But when he was just,
now,
wasn't he in Vegas,
just sitting in a box?
He buried himself alive a few times.
Yeah.
Yeah,
but for like a week ago.
That's not magic.
That's like what do you?
But I always love how he looks when he's like three days in.
And his eyes are like fucking sunken into his head.
He hasn't had any water,
any food.
It's like,
what are you doing this for?
He buried himself alive for seven days.
And then he froze himself in a block of us.
for three days like Austin Powers.
Why?
That's not a magician.
That's just, what are you doing?
I ain't going to lie.
I'm too claustophobic for that burying yourself
alive shit.
He spent 63 hours in this.
He's just like a double mirror.
It was toasting there.
Yeah, that was like a space heater.
No, that was with a hologorn.
That's what getting into my bed felt like last night.
What was, it was a discovery channel?
Why, your house was cold?
It was freezing in there right now.
I mean, I've been gone.
So I came home last night.
and I got my bed.
It was like,
I was like someone
threw my bed in the ocean.
That's why you got to date.
It was awful.
Somebody threw my bed in like this.
I just went to bed and hoodie.
Laid right on top of you.
You need a thick thigh.
Keep it warm at night.
I do.
I did not have one.
I slept alone.
See,
white girl's too thin.
Like you was laying next to a,
like you was laying next to a cold spoon.
Yeah,
he was laying next to a cold spoon.
And our skin can't process heat and trap it.
It just burns us.
We can't give heat out.
How did this become
David Blaine?
Because you are David Blaine.
Since you started out as a magician,
your next
your next allusion or what'd you call it, body
endurance. Endurance would be
that you would finally sleep with a black woman.
My version of that is how long can I stand bed
with a black woman? How long could you cuddle next to a black woman?
Yes, that would be yours.
63 hours.
How long can you cuddle with a black woman?
It's just me holding my breath.
Now if I was a slug,
the shit out of him. I'd be wrong, right?
I'm losing my job, right?
No, you wouldn't.
I would fight to keep you funny for doing the goddamn bit.
It'd be erased.
It's so funny as the only people that would be impressed
would be his Lower East Side white friends.
Like, how is he doing that?
He's so brave.
I'm not sure if we should keep this or not.
I keep it.
Fuck it.
Oh, you both.
It's a joke.
We were doing a joke.
Look, go ahead.
Clip it up.
Oh, my God.
Oh, my good.
It was honestly just jokes.
We love everybody.
What was that Discovery Channel?
We know you do.
That sound believable, yeah.
I love everybody.
Of course you do.
I do too.
What was the discovery one where they would do the magic trick and then show you how they did it?
I used to hate that.
Like, at least let me believe that he caught a bullet with his mouth.
That was the mask.
The mass magician.
I loved him, too.
Did they ever find out who the mass magician is, though?
No, they showed us how he did every trick.
we never got his idea.
Val Valentino.
Wow.
He looked like,
with a name like Val Valentino,
you have to be a magician.
He's somebody in the witness protection program.
He got his shit off.
That's Val under the makeup.
I ain't allowed.
I like the mass magician though.
Because I always did one,
like how did they do that?
But they did that whole series.
Is he a snitch?
Where they showed it.
Is that snitching?
How they showed like the.
Yeah, he's showing everybody's tricks to the man.
He's like the Carlos Mencilla of a magician.
But then it would get me tight too
Because there's some tricks that I can respect
Even though I don't like it
That David Blaine actually buried himself alive like 10 times
That's crazy that he survived that
They would show that catch the bullet thing
And they'd be like oh legitimately no
This is where they turn the camera off
And he puts a bullet in his mouth
I'm like, all right man
There's not even a talent to this illusion
Yeah that's just camera tricks
And I was like
Yeah we put a bullet in the gun
and then we stop the camera and put a blank in.
Like, all right, well, then what the fuck is the point of this?
I could do this at my house.
Could you use that on the set of rust.
My favorite, my favorite thing was like,
how do we make an entire studio audience disappear?
Or? Yeah, just move the camera.
Remember that?
It was on a dolly, and they just moved the camera.
They're like, where are those 600 people?
It's like, they're behind the camera.
Oh, was that in Good Morning America or something?
No, it was on this.
And also, all you have to do to train to do this trick is
pretend to get hit with a bullet. That's it. That's all it is. This is so funny. What was the Good Morning
American one where they like made twins out of everyone? And then they just showed like, oh yeah,
no, they just like went in another corridor and then they had actual twins. Yeah. They were all
real twins. Yeah. They casted a whole bunch of twins that day. The trick was, hey, we're going to
duplicate these people and they hired twins. It's still magic. No, it's not. It is. It's casting.
That's magic. Aurora, you were talking about magic.
bullets and guns mall.
Did you guys see that?
I took JFK out.
Over the holiday,
DeBaby was teaching his six-year-old
how to shoot some magic bullets.
I think they were just regular bullets, but...
All right.
Rory, you have a daughter.
I like it.
In five years, would you let Amara shoot a gun?
Probably not.
Oh.
But we live in New York.
Yeah, North Carolina, this may be...
This is standard.
This is, yeah.
I don't want to judge something
that's probably extremely regular
in the woods of North Carolina.
That's standard.
And I think more...
More than anything, I'm sorry to interrupt you.
It's because of safety because everybody in the South does have a gun.
You're going to go to your cousin's house.
They're going to have guns.
So I'd rather you know how to operate it and know what it can do.
How to handle it.
I kill my cousin first.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Like, you know, you know when you smoke meat and you grab a gun and be like,
nothing can hurt me.
Like, I don't want that to happen.
No, they don't, but they don't.
But see, that's the thing, Julian, down in the South,
they don't look at, they don't play with guns like that because they are so familiar
with them.
So kids don't play with guns like they do in other places.
I would bet statistically if we look at most gun accident deaths or
probably in the South. And that's why stats are stupid
because there's way more guns in the South. That's my point.
Just because it's a part of your culture and there's more guns doesn't mean you know how to
properly use them. No, of course, but that's why I'm not against
teaching your kids young how to handle something that's always around them.
Yeah. Six is, you know, I can see someone being like six is a little
really funny. A little what? Shit, my cousins was hunting at nine in the South.
Literally hunting. Different than six. I'm just saying, it's the same. They probably learned
how to shoot a six. It's just a number flipped. Yeah, that's all it is.
Same thing.
Six and nine.
It's a six up,
side down and said nine now.
That's why Drake made that song.
It's about hunting in the south.
Exactly.
It's in the paperwork.
That's specific song.
That one?
That's what you thought it was not like us.
No, it was that one.
Because UMG was flipping the numbers.
You know what?
I like that.
I like that.
Good show.
Rory came to pod.
He and Burt.
Came to Pod.
It's just the medication.
I guess that's a good segue.
There's been some updates since
because last time we recorded
was when the news broke
with the Drake court filing with UMG.
The first one.
Yes, the first one.
And then the following day,
a new one,
which I believe was only in Texas.
I don't think it was in New York,
filed a defamation case
against UMG
for the things that was said about him
on the record,
not like us.
We did a quick breakdown on the last episode.
I'm down to get into more detail
since some time has passed and the dust is settled.
As far as the first filing action,
I'm still with Drake all the way.
I see people rightfully so saying,
all right, this is all just because he took an L,
he's not really for artists,
this is a selfish move,
this is him being butt hurt.
Let's say that's the case
in your hypothetical situation
or what you think.
I don't care.
Cool.
If he's doing this for selfish reasons,
I still think it's going to benefit everyone in the long run,
so I fully support it.
I don't know him, neither do you guys.
So who knows his real reasons?
I think it's fine to speculate,
and I could totally see someone come to the conclusion
he's doing this because he's hurt.
I still do not care if that ends up being the actual reason.
This could unveil, this could reveal so much stuff
that can help all of us within the music industry.
So I don't care if he's doing it just for Aubrey Graham.
The results could help us all.
Yeah.
I'm not saying he is this tirade going against it.
industry and I'm not saying he's that either. I'm just saying I think this is going to be
great for all of us. If it happened because of a rap battle, so be it. I also understand why people
are upset at the defamation thing. I don't know what it's like to be called a pedophile when you're
not one, so I can't really put too much credence on Drake for being upset about that. Because if someone
called me a pedophile, and I'm not, I'd probably prove to you guys that I'm not a fucking pedophile.
With that said, it was a rap battle, so it's weird.
But is it weird if the label you're signed to that you generated so much money for for 15 years
and you're now in the middle of renegotiation, if they use this tactic to kind of say,
okay, well, your value is kind of down at this point.
Yeah, I can see that angle, which I think a lot of people are ignoring.
I think that's a great point, well, that Drake is trying to say that the pedophile angle
was pumped up from UMG to try to devalue the negotiation that they,
were going through currently to lower his value.
I can totally see that it's just when people read, which they don't read everything, Drake
is suing for defamation because of a rat battle.
It looks insane.
That's public perception.
Yeah.
And I get now, you know, with social media and everybody has access to it and has a phone,
everybody, you know, it feels like they can chime in.
So public perception is loud.
It's louder than it's ever been these days.
if you have a contract and you have a legal, legal, you know, document binding you in a company
and there's certain things that were violated during this whole thing within your contract,
you're well within your rights to be petitioning that label and saying, hey, you guys
directly violated our contract with each other during this whole thing. Like, it's interesting
because, you know, people are like, oh, they, you know, Drake is Maddie Law. Well, y'all said he lost
the pusher battle, right? No lawsuit came of that.
So you got to know that this situation is totally different. Obviously, there's something that
was directly violated between him and his contract with UMG. But also drastically different
battles because there wasn't any real defamation within. You are hiding a child is not
grounds for defamation. More of a revelation. No, I understand that. But also, but also,
was he in the middle of renegotiations at that time? No.
Did UMG put money behind?
I think the only defamation he could have done was that rumor that he was going to use his son as like an Adidas press line.
And then he said fuck Adidas and went with Nike because I guess that got, there was rumors that Adidas was the ones that told everyone about the hidden kid or whatever.
Either way, that would have been the only case.
Do you find it odd with the verbiage of defamation when one could say Drake did the same,
to Kendrick. Leave UMG out of this.
Drake also said
things that could be
a clause for defamation if
Kendrick did not do those. Yeah, but
did the label put
money behind Family Matters
and is Kendrick in the middle of
negotiating his contract? Fair.
With the same label. Oh, I know the answer. I just wanted you
to say it. No, but that's what people are not
understanding about this thing. It's not about
what Kendrick said.
It's, yeah, Kendrick said this, but then the
label amplified that
to try to assassinate my character because I'm going through a renegotiation with them at the point in time.
Yeah.
And the number I asked for is probably something that probably he's absolutely worth.
But UMG is like, we don't want to pay him that.
Yeah.
Because what did they give him his last deal?
$400 million?
$500 million, something like that.
Yeah, that believe it goes for.
We think.
He's probably asking for at least.
Yeah.
He's probably asking for at least double that.
Oh, I think Drake would be asked for a billion dollars.
Rightfully so.
Rightfully so.
And UMG probably is like, we can't give him a billion dollars.
Because if we give him a billion dollars, that might open the floodgate for other artists to feel like, well, shit, y'all gave Drake a billion dollars.
I could at least get $2.50.
Yeah.
You understand what I'm saying?
So I just think that people don't understand that it's just a business thing behind this.
And again, you have some things maybe in this contract to where you can't post my home on a streaming platform with fucking sex offender pin drops above it.
Like, what if he has, what if that's in his contract and they directly violated that?
Is he wrong?
Yeah.
It just has the regular public that doesn't particularly care about music business stuff.
They're just music consumers and fans.
They want to be entertained.
Would look at the history of rap and all the things that could be labeled as defamation
down to like what Pock was even going to do with the McAvelli cover with Puff and Big
like fucking each other on the back cover.
Yeah, but Rory.
If you go back to when we first
Because we were talking about this shit since what May?
Hmm?
One of the first things I said was
A disc record went number one
That was the most
That was the oddest thing to
We've, well I'm old enough to have seen
The Pock and Biggie Beef
Neither one of those records went number one
On the chart.
Didn't back to back on number one
Megan's diss to Nikki went number one as well
Didn't back to back
One's this year
Huh?
On the rap charts maybe
Not like us went number one
on Billboard, correct?
Didn't back to back?
It's crazy.
We had Google.
Yeah, I don't think
I don't think
Megan's song went number one on.
Okay, but also let's add some contacts
having that same conversation
in May when it went number one.
We had said before that,
this is the first time in rap history
that the two biggest stars
period, one A, one B
that have surpassed
hip hop, were ever battling.
Like Jay and Nas, of course,
were huge at that time, but they were not what Drake and Kendrick are as far as optics,
numbers, who they are in music.
For sure.
So it would not shock me if a disc record went number one coming from the two biggest rappers
we've ever had.
His debut in number one.
Who did?
The Megan record.
Billboard, period.
Yes.
Global 200.
Global 200.
It went number one.
Thank you.
Really?
Y'all make me have to go crazy for Meg.
Like, I hate that y'all make me.
I had no idea that song was number one.
Yes, it went number one.
Wow.
They viewed at number one.
Okay.
Obviously, it had the success of not like us
because not like us stayed on the charts for a really long time.
His one number one.
Roy, you don't have to double check.
We have it right here.
Rock Nation bots went at it.
Oh, yeah.
This has to be Rock Nation.
This has to be Rock Nation.
This has to be Rock Nation.
Damn, Hove might remix not like us this late in the game.
Just to stop being revealed.
of the bots. Is that Meg's only number one?
No, I believe it was her third. Savage definitely won number one.
Wap exists, y'all. Yeah, I always get confused if Wop is
Cardys or Meggins. Like, they never made it clear.
I think that was Megan's. Okay. No, Wap was Cardi.
No, Wap was cool. Well, they were both primary artists on the record,
but it's technically a Cardi record. It's her third number one. The last time she won
number one was WAC. No, Demaris, I apologize. I would have never
guessed. I could see it going number one on the rap billboard charts for sure, but I didn't,
I didn't even feel like it was even close to Megan's biggest songs. Like, that's why I'm like,
I didn't even think that. Like Megan's had far bigger records to me. It was a Nicki Minaj dish, y'all.
Fair? It was all everybody talked about for a while. Like I said, it didn't have the staying power.
It didn't stay number one for long, but it went number one. Okay. Well, either way,
back to the original point of I could still see it going number one with or without bots just because
that was the craziest week in hip hop.
That record was the one that was probably the most of a song.
Not Like Us, you're talking about.
Yeah, Not Like Us was a song.
Like Euphoria was like, what, seven minutes long?
Family Matters, seven minutes long.
Meet the Grams, way too long as far as something that would stay on the charts.
Not Like Us was a bop.
And part of the biggest rap battle of all time.
I can see that going number one with or without the bots.
But clearly it seems like there was some foul play.
We can all just be objective.
it appears like that happened.
100%.
But we spoke to that before, though.
And, you know, I know people's perception of this pod
and everything that's been going on.
Speaking of myself, I feel like I've been very objective
and I'm viewing this solely as what I was reading
in the paperwork.
Cap.
What have I not been objective about in this battle?
I'm just playing internet narrative.
No, you have been.
I have nothing to say.
Whereas the same day, Kendrick's album came out
that I love, I'm still on Drake's side when it comes to this paperwork.
It makes all the sense in the world if you take it away from the battle.
Now, I understand fans and consumers don't care to separate those two things,
especially when not like us is in the paperwork.
I just view it way different.
I think this is something that's extremely important.
And if it comes off the legs of someone, quote unquote, taking an L and feeling butt hurt,
I still do not care.
I think this is amazing.
I think this will reveal a whole bunch of shit that we need to know in the music industry.
I just did, you had spoke to it because you had posted a video on your IG.
I just don't understand why people all of a sudden are against artists, like, suing their labels.
Like, since when did we trust and have, like, this upstanding faith that our labels are doing right by the artists and things like that?
Like, since when did that happen?
Again, being objective, just watching the internet over this whole holiday weekend, you guys have claimed that this pod is biased, Dick Riders,
all this. You guys proved over this week that that's what you guys are. Oh, 100%. When did we all of a sudden
start saying the labels are these great people and how could we? Yeah. Drake is a snitch.
To a label. Labels that do art is dirty. A record contract is fucked all the way around, period.
I watched all of the timeline for seven years justify snitching on street shit. But now we draw the line
when it comes to snitching on a label
that's been fucking over artists
since the beginning of fucking time.
Right.
When did everyone become this label-friendly
they're here to do right
by all the artists?
They're fucking over the consumers too.
As far as what you pay for
and what you get in return.
Everyone's getting fucked here.
When did we start loving the labels?
But you understand it though.
It's cool to hate Drake right now.
That's what the public perception is.
That Drake, he lost, you know,
he's, you know, this corny Canadian and he's not of the culture and he just attaches
himself to people to kind of like be a part of the culture. Like that's just what the noise is.
Cool. And if you feel like that, great, you're entitled to that. But we have to remember this
is an artist suing his label because him and his team, his lawyers, which we can all assume in
this room that Drake's business is intact and that he has lawyers that know what the hell they're doing.
I would think so. So if their particular.
because they feel like the label violated his contract, I just don't understand how the public
doesn't understand and agree with that. Like, yeah, the labels usually fuck the artist over
at some point. It just so happens that here's the biggest artist in the world because people
feel like, oh, well, Drake, you already have so much money. Just shut up and sit down.
Like, that's what I'm seeing online. Like, yo, you're already the most streamed and have been
on top for this many years and this, that, and the third, da, da, da, da. You should just take this loss.
And okay, you're talking about still a rap battle, but what if something in his contract is violated and the label has to pay?
He's not supposed to say, hey, y'all did this.
This goes against my contract.
Because if he did something that went against his contract, I can promise you the labels would have him in court.
Yeah.
Now that it's reversed, people are saying, oh, he needs to take his loss like a man and just sit down.
Like what?
But he has a contract.
This is business that was violated that his lawyer's found.
And they're saying, hey, y'all did this.
This violates Drake's contract.
You need to pay for this.
And off that, another narrative I was seeing since last week since this was announced is
Drake has probably benefited off this system as well.
Yeah, probably so.
So what?
Okay, if he wants to sacrifice himself for this entire thing, great.
He's the only artist that could be able to do this.
So if he wants to do it, more power to him.
because again, I think it'll help us.
Have you ever seen 16 blocks with Bruce Willis and Yassimbe?
At the end when he goes to testifying court,
and most deaf finds out that he's also one of the cops
that is under trial that he's going to snitch against?
And Bruce Willis is like, yeah, I'm the one I participate in all these murders,
all this crime I was with the crew.
If Drake wants to go be Bruce Willis, I'm fine with that.
Tell on everyone.
You've been here for 15 years.
You know everything that's going on.
You have the most power, the most money of any artist outside.
to Taylor Swift.
I'm sure Drake knows that bots have been somewhat around his career at some point.
Even during the Pushy Tea battle, I remember there being bots everywhere on the timeline.
You said Pushy-T's name, a million OVO bots were killing you in your mentions.
So, cool.
If Drake is fine with exposing all this shit at the expense of people saying, hey, you did it too.
So, I don't care.
Why should I care about that?
Yeah, I mean, you know, and again, I understand.
public perception, but, you know, people have to understand business.
We're talking about one of the biggest artists in the world, one of the biggest, if not the
biggest label, music label in the world.
And if his lawyers feel like his contract was violated, I just don't understand how people
don't agree with them going after that and saying, hey, y'all have to pay him because
y'all violated his contract.
Yeah, a lot of people, because I had said some things as well on Twitter, and some people
are like, it's 400 million, like, shut the fuck up.
And I was like, well, like, that's not, like, look, like, we,
everyone I said to the guy back, I said, I assume you have a job and your job pays you,
but I'm sure you have problems with your job.
Just because your job's like, just because Drake's worth is $400 or $500 million,
doesn't mean problems don't happen.
Problems happen in regards of how big the paycheck is you can still have gripes into your point.
If something is violated, if a term that you'd once agreed upon was violated,
then you have the right to fucking react.
Just so happens that everything Drake does is a public thing.
And I think people, when you have all of that money and you have all of that status,
you also have a lot of people working for you.
So you have $400 million to Drake means a lot
because I have to pay people out.
I'm in charge of supporting people's,
not only my family, but other people's families.
So yes, every dollar does fucking matter.
Like, what are we talking about here?
And not only that, if my contract that we both agreed upon
was violated.
I care if it's $1 or $1 billion.
Yeah, like it's like my contract was violated.
Like y'all did something.
Y'all allowed a picture of my home
to go up on DSPs and stay there
with sex offender marks above my home.
Like that,
when,
when,
when,
when,
when,
when,
when,
uh,
Pierce Morgan and said what she said about
Jay and Beyonce.
Ooh,
got her out of here and out of paint.
That's just like,
yo,
like,
what?
Like, first,
get her out of it.
What is she talking about?
Like,
that can't,
Shapiro,
the next day,
Shapiro was like,
yo,
listen,
y'all got to play with something safe.
This ain't,
this ain't that.
We're not even playing.
We're not playing that game.
Like,
is that,
did Jay and Beyoncee
snitch on Jaguar right?
That is violating.
You cannot do that.
Y'all cannot do that to these artists.
Drake is saying the same thing.
Hey, I have a contract with y'all.
And so the dollar amount, too.
Fuck the dollar amount.
But then at what point, like, do you draw the line when money's fucked up?
Like, if it's a $20 difference and you don't call out what's wrong here, that can just continue to fuck on.
Because we've already compromised that money issues are fine if it's just a small amount or a big amount.
You just have to go off this is wrong or this is right.
Yeah.
So 400 million.
They're also playing in a business that is above us financially.
Yeah, we would be pissed off about a couple thousand dollars.
They run around with billion dollars.
So all their discrepancies and anything that could go wrong within them is going to be at a billion dollar value.
Because that's the world they live in.
Just because we don't live in that world and we would go, yeah, I'll take 400 million.
doesn't mean it's correct in their world.
Right.
That's the type of money they play with.
That's what lawsuits will look like.
It'll look like $4.00.
Do you think that...
It looked like a billion dollars.
Do you think that this petition that came out,
do you think that this adds to any reason why Kendrick dropped the album when he did
and why Not Like Us isn't on the album?
No.
No.
No?
No.
You think it has no correlation?
No.
Okay.
I don't think it was ever...
But we all said that I don't think it was ever going to be on the problem.
My correlation was the opposite.
which boy did I have my tin foil hat on.
I sent it over to you.
Pull up the whacked out murals.
You send it to me?
The lyrics?
No, I sent it to them all over the holiday weekend.
Now, I'm of the belief that...
I told Roy, you had a tinfoil du rag on.
Where am I going?
I am of the belief that Kendrick did know about this lawsuit
before anyone else did.
Even though he's not really in the paperwork,
not like us is, he also has a deal with UMG.
So I think he, it was brought to his attention before it was brought to anyone else's.
Now, I don't think he dropped any music because of that.
But I think on the chorus of Wacked Out Muros, he was encouraging Drake, going up your rank,
going right up to Lucian, up your rank over there, know you a god, six God, you know,
even when they say you ain't, yeah, keep your feelings out of the way.
I think Drake felt away about that.
But keep your feelings out that I called you a pedophile.
Don't let no one put smut.
Wait, stop right there.
How do you keep your feelings out of that?
Somebody calls you a pedophile.
Like, what do you mean?
Keep your feelings out of it?
Go sue.
Get your feelings aren't.
There's no emotions in them fucking up a negotiation you have with your label.
There's no feelings in, you know, you mad because I did this or that.
Get your feelings in this battle out of the way.
Don't let anyone put smut on your name.
Keep your head down.
Okay, hey, don't let me call your pedophile.
Go sue your label?
Okay.
I'm just trying to figure out where your brain was at.
Oh, it's the furthest reach of all down.
Yeah, I'm saying you saw all kind of ligament to your shoulder with that one.
No, absolutely.
But I think when it started with, yo, going up your rank, I think that goes directly to
Lucian, going up your rank over there, go ask for what you deserve over there.
You're a God, even when they say you ain't, because they're saying, we're not going to give
you the value of what you want in this negotiation.
Look what happened.
You are a quote-unquote pedophile.
You're not worth this billion that you're asking for.
This is all legend, by the way.
You're still a god over there.
Like, don't let them ever do that.
Keep your feelings out the way.
Go sue.
Don't let anyone put smut on your name.
Go do the defamation case.
Don't let no one put no smut on your name like that.
That's crazy.
I called you a pedophile.
Don't let nobody do that shit.
Go sue the label.
Rory, I would be one-fifth with you, right?
This is just speculation amongst friends to just...
Of course.
Yeah.
Not even making content.
I thought it was interesting.
Just worry off the hookah at the crew.
Yeah.
Go ahead, DeMars.
If he's doing that, he's doing it in a mocking way.
It's not in a loving way.
It's in a very much mocking.
Hendrick is very sarcastic.
Yeah.
Because he does hate Drake.
So, like, that's like, he's not going to fake up.
This is fake uplifting.
And, like, he will fake uplift somebody like Cole or somebody else with a fake
rap battle, but he really despises Drake.
Fair.
You know what?
I will fully take that.
That, yes, he could be saying this in a very condescending way.
But I did attach this with the timing to the law.
lawsuit. So yeah, he could be, he could be sarcastic on this. Yeah, I don't feel, all right, so, because I do believe
Kendrick, seeing a lot of people say, oh, they don't, they feel like this is just the filler until the
album comes out closer to the Super Bowl. I don't think it would be a whole new project. I think he'll do a
deluxe of this album. I think he'll add some songs. Y'all really don't believe that this lawsuit,
obviously he knew that the lawsuit was coming because he's signed a UMG as well. I'm pretty
sure they reached out and let, let him know that a lawsuit was coming.
Y'all don't think the lawsuit that's naming that particular song in the lawsuit, and Drake is saying what the label did as far as putting millions of dollars behind that record, pushing it to kind of, you know, bring his value down because he's in negotiations with them currently.
Y'all don't think if he leaves that off the album, his biggest song ever, I don't know when an artist's biggest song ever was left off of their project.
Y'all don't think that that has something to do with it?
No.
That is crazy.
Because I think that would make, no, no, because I think that would make Drake look even crazier if he put not like us on there.
And then because of this, because it's only a petition now.
It's not even really a lawsuit yet.
Right.
But let's say it was a lawsuit and it went through that they would have to take that off the album while things were in litigation.
I think that would make Drake look even crazier with this, give me my ballback.
No one can play type of accusations he has now.
Which again, I think that energy is great.
All right.
But answer the question, though.
When has an artist ever left their biggest?
song off of the album?
Kendrick is not the typical artist, though.
Tommy Richmond just did it.
Yeah.
I feel like there's a Beyonce project.
I don't know.
Formation they just threw at the end is a bonus.
Yeah.
But Kendrick is not the typical artist, Ma.
And that's what we were telling you before we even heard anything about this lawsuit.
When we had this argument, which when we said that we think he's going to leave it off
the album, our point still stands pre-lawsuit that he's not that type of artist.
Kendrick likes to provide bodies of work
and providing a body of work with a song like that
that has what it has attached to it,
it just doesn't go with what I think his vision would be.
That's why I never thought that it would be honest.
And they changed the rules a bit too
where before that, it would really behoove artists
because whatever their single sales would be added to their album sales.
Yeah, it will take you to number one.
That changed.
There's still a small percentage, I think, that's taken,
but that rule changed.
It doesn't really go towards consumption.
Yeah, so it's not really a huge deal to put it on there.
I don't care about...
And I think he replaced it,
not to say it's going to have the same effect whatsoever.
They have TV off.
Like, you didn't need not like us there.
That's in the same vein.
Yeah.
It's the same record to me.
It's minus the pedophile shit.
Yeah, it's extremely close.
Same energy.
Same type of vibe.
I actually prefer it, to be honest.
TV off?
Over, not like us, yeah.
What about Squabble Up?
How do you feel?
Squabble Up is number one.
in the country right now right yeah
squal up is great um all right but to your point as well does this affect the super bowl
now if this leaves a petition and goes to an actual case
i'm assuming i do not know but i assume the super bowl has to clear every song that an artist
performs at half time yeah i would i would imagine tv writes everything that song has to be cleared
to be performed i don't know what that looks like we would have to ask a lawyer but i can we can
all assumed he would not be allowed to perform that. That song would not be cleared if there's
legal action with it. Same way if there was a sample clearance problem, you can't perform that
song at the Super Bowl until that is cleared. Let's play the numbers game, not that I care about
it. Do we feel like, man, this is just us having the conversation, do we feel like the numbers
and the energy around not like us reflect Kendrick's first week album sales? Oh, you're saying
what the magnitude of Not Like Us was versus what the, at the,
out and do like 300 something.
324 or something.
It's pretty on par.
Outside of damn,
it's pretty on par for Kendrick.
I will say like not like it was a surprise drop.
Not like us was an anomaly.
And I'm on the side of look,
they fudge the numbers.
They were selling ads at a lower clip.
I get all that.
Assuming everything Drake said is true.
My argument still is that you can't fake cultural relevancy.
Like I've worked at a label.
We've put thousands of dollars,
sometimes millions into a record.
and you can't trick people into thinking something something.
Either it is or it isn't.
When something, something, you can add fire to it
and make it bigger than it already is,
but you can't trick people into what the culture is quote-unquote feeling.
That record had everybody.
I don't think like it needed all this juice and boost
and all this like stuff that Drake is.
Well, it had everybody because it was part of one of the biggest battles.
Of course.
No, I'm saying all of that, all of that with it.
Like it's all, that's what made this.
song what it was. I think if Kendrick's put out randomly like, why this isn't, this doesn't
sound like Kendra. Obviously, a lot of it has to deal with this moment, but that moment was the
moment. And it, it was perfect for what that beef, like, it was perfect at the time. And I don't
think it needed what Drake's accusing of may have happened. And I do think that stuff is true,
but I don't think that song needed that to be this successful. It was such a fucking, like,
it was a missile. I do agree with you. That song was going to be great organically, no matter what,
but leaning more into like all these crazy brands that would never fuck with hip hop
starting attaching themselves to it a lot of that from a brand's perspective goes to numbers
so if they're getting a report of what that song is doing they'll take the risk of saying
all right we we can put this song against certain ads we can put billboards up that have the
lyrics like we saw a bunch of brands attach themselves to that i mean even that only happens if the
numbers match the risk.
So if the numbers are fake, a lot of brands aren't going to push that record the way they
were pushing it without fudge numbers.
I don't know.
I don't think with the culture, it affects anything.
I think that record surpassing this rap battle to the point that a lot of people probably
didn't even know that this was a Drake diss when they first heard it.
If you're outside of hip-hop, yeah, I think fudging the numbers added to that.
If you're Kendrick, are you a kiddrick?
upset that um biont's performing at the halftime on christmas why why why would be upset about that
because i think her numbers her viewership will be higher than is i don't think that a christmas
game is going to get bigger views than the even if it's biont even if it's biont it's the super
ball huh it's the super bowl it's the super bowl it's biontie it's bigger than the super bowl i'm a biontie
i'm telling you that it's still the super bowl it's not going to have outside outside this is
Beyonce, first time she's going to give us Cowboy Carter.
On Netflix, I think that the numbers are going to be insane, but it's still the Super Bowl.
But I'm saying, if you're Kendrick, you don't feel the table like, damn, why would you, that's December.
Mines is in February.
Like, no.
No.
Matter of fact, great.
Now you're just adding more credence of artists performing at halftime at NFL games to get people that typically wouldn't watch NFL games and are just music fans to watch NFL games.
Yeah.
Now, what do you think is the second most important thing at the Super Bowl that brings viewership,
besides the game.
Ads?
Commercials.
Super Bowl commercials are it.
One are the biggest ones?
The Super Bowl.
I know, but one of the biggest
ones during the Super Bowl?
Oh, like alcohol?
Doritos, Verizon.
When are the biggest commercials?
Right before the half time.
Oh, right before half time,
right after half time.
Like sandwiched between the performance.
People no matter whether they know who
Kendrick Lamar or not are going to be sitting there
for commercials.
Who had the biggest commercial last year?
Yeah.
Kanye.
Beyonce.
No, Beyonce had the biggest.
She announced that.
I mean that she announced the two.
But no, I thought I've read that that Kanye iPhone shit surpassed Beyonce.
It might have been Kanye's.
It might, you're right.
It might be Kanye's.
Beyonce's was close.
Her Verizon one was close, but I think it was Kanye.
I'm just saying the amount of viewers.
I don't know, man.
When halftime exists, yes, of course, it can fluctuate with the performer.
But at the end of the day, football fans are watching because they're waiting for the game.
Regular people that don't like football are watching for the commercials.
And half time is the highest commercials.
It's America's thing, too.
Like, even if you don't care about football,
even if you don't care about the commercials,
like you're at a party with your friends.
It's America's game.
And, like, Christmas time?
I don't know.
I just seen Beyonce just have silver sold out for a year.
The color.
I don't know people that can have a color sold out.
I just, with Christmas time,
I've never heard of people like waiting at halftime
at the Christmas football games.
A bunch of people go because of Beyonce.
was the NFL. The NFL recognized that too. And guess what they did?
Super Bowl is going to have music fans plus non-N NFL fans plus NFL fans. Like, it's this
different tornado.
No, it's not. What? Oh, please.
You think people that are not fans of football don't watch the football game during Christmas.
Everybody's in the house and TV. Well, people do more. Yeah, they walk past the TV.
While dad's watching the game. No, it's not the Super Bowl. I know it's definitely not the Super Bowl. We know that. But I'm just saying.
Mom, dad, son, son, daughter. Everyone is.
watching the Super Bowl.
Christmas time, I think people walk past it.
Dad is watching the football game.
They don't have to watch.
As long as it's on, they don't have to be sitting there watching it.
It's on.
What I'm saying is,
Beyonce brings a way bigger audience
to the Christmas game than we were wherever we have a seat.
Absolutely.
But you're comparing that to the Super Bowl.
That's crazy.
And on top of that, it's not like they just,
it's not a random person doing the Super Bowl.
This is one of the biggest rappers in the world
off the cusp of one of his biggest moments in the world.
the biggest rat beef that we've ever seen in our lifetime.
So this is one of the biggest artists in the world ever.
Beyonce.
I'm aware of that, Maul.
I'm the Beyonce fan in the room.
Yeah, but then speak like that then.
I am speaking like the Beyonce fan,
but I also don't have to shit on Kendrick to do it.
Who's shitting on Kendrick?
I'm saying if I'm Kendrick, you're not looking at the NFL like,
fuck, why would you put this fucking mega star that's a bigger star than I am
on the halftime show two months before me?
Like, that's a lot of pressure on Kendrick now, is all I'm saying.
That's beyond.
essentially that's like performing after Beyonce.
Essentially, even though it's two months apart.
It's so different.
No, it's not.
How is it different?
It's both halftime.
I can explain it.
Okay.
Beyonce homecoming Coachella.
We would say that's a pretty big Beyonce event.
Yes, that's the Beyonce event.
On Netflix, 1.1 million viewers.
Pepsi halftime comparison averages 117 million viewers.
What is that?
What are you comparing them?
That on average, no matter what,
117 million people are watching the Pepsi halftime show.
Beyonce you're saying is going to bring in all these fans.
When it was her performance at Coachella,
it brought in 1.1 million.
But that, you can't.
How many people watch the Christmas NFL game?
You can't compare a performance at Coachella to the fucking halftime
a halftime show at Christmas's gay game.
It's bigger.
No, you can't.
No, it's not.
No, it's not.
A lot of people don't watch Coachella.
It's not the same.
It's not the same thing.
But you're talking about the Beyonce viewing fans.
Like, I mean, we can.
we can agree to disagree, but even
what were the numbers for the Jake Paul fight?
Average Christmas Day game,
28.7 million viewers.
This is,
this is not even compared.
This will probably crack 30.
Yeah.
And I'm saying if we're bringing in all the Coachella Beyonce fans,
you think the average is 28 million
with Beyonce perform the half time,
it's only going to do 30 million?
I can tell you what's not going to do 117.
It might get 40.
Sure.
We'll double it.
Give it 60.
Yeah.
Well, we're going to find out.
I'm just saying if I'm Kendrick,
I definitely am like,
fuck like this is i'm all right why i was using cochello was because that was a big biance event so you can
tack on that amount of new viewers no matter what to the 28.7 million viewers you're still not even
getting remotely close to the 117 million viewers for super bowl with or without kendrick i think
the super bowl is going to 117 million i'm not saying it's not i'm just saying if you're kendrick
if you're the artist kendrick you're not looking at it like god damn like bionte is doing
her halftime show two months before mine.
What if he comes out and they do freedom?
Then what?
What if he's in an NFL 360
and he has to perform the whole season?
Yo.
Rory?
I don't know where he was going with that,
but I'm crying.
I think Kendrick is comparing himself
to other Super Bowl performers
at other Super Bowl performances.
I think that's the only thing he's focused on.
I think he's trying to figure out how to compete
with what Rihanna did as far as
like her set and things like that.
Yeah, I agree.
And we can get off this topic,
but whacked out murals before we close,
there was a rumor over the holiday weekend
what the muted lyrics were
in whacked out murals in the beginning.
It's in like the first, I don't know,
like minute of the song.
They're suggesting that what's bleeped out there
is I made a born sinner ask me for forgiveness.
And it does match up with all the bars and syllables.
also another shot at that about anything another shot at another shot at Cole no there was
shot like there was been shots at all makes no set like there's why wouldn't it make any
sense legs there's no validity to that statement it's just someone online that makes it true
clever lyric where he said it said I think it's this it got enough retweets so easy to catch
holy shit he's right it could be no truth to that state how you don't know that what if he
here here's another you don't know what did you say what was the line I made a
Borden Center what?
I made a born center ass for forgiveness.
He could literally say, I made a Canadian
suck someone's dick. Like, you could just fill it in with
anything. I don't know if I like that.
I don't rhyme at all. That doesn't rhyme at all.
No, you're, the point. Exactly.
So it could be, it could be,
I made a born center ass for forgiveness.
Listen, it could be anything, right?
Exactly. It's coming off.
Fuck everybody.
No, it used to be fuck
that, I'm gonna paraphrase.
Fuck that one guy.
Yeah.
but now it's fuck everybody
it's plural
fuck everybody that's on my body
my blick first then god got me
I watched them pander
with them backhanded compliments
put their head on a Cuban link
as a monument
I made the born sinner
ask me for forgiveness
oh damn
see this why I shouldn't rap
only the M&M
put the head on a Cuban link as a monument
I paid homage and always minded my business
I made the born sinner
ask me for forgiveness
Now, Julian, if you like...
Now, tell me where...
If you like the Canadian
suck my dick works in there.
If you like to offer up, like,
what you thought...
So, okay, so if it has to rhyme with business,
so you're saying, forgiveness...
So the key word in what Roy said is forgiveness.
So let's just find another word
that rhymes with business
and you could just...
It's an apply all...
No, but you...
There's no validity to that...
You don't see that he could...
After saying, it used to be fuck...
We can assume.
It used to just be fuck Drake.
Now it's fuck everybody.
And then goes on it
an entire scheme about that exact moment, you don't think that could fit in there, a J. Colbar?
Because clearly he's talking about more people that he said fuck them.
Plural.
I'm not saying it couldn't fit.
I'm saying there are hundreds of versions of lyrics that could also fit.
Yeah, but that's one of that could fit.
Okay.
Julian, all he's saying is that that's one of the lyrics that could fit.
How come you can't accept?
How come that's so hard to digesting your chest right now?
Let's say it's not the born center bar.
with that setup, do you think
what is left out there is about
Jermaine Cole? No.
Okay. That's fine. Then who else?
Why are you so convinced of this?
Because you saw the guy get enough retweets on his fucking thing?
No, no, no, no, no. Because the setup right there.
No, no, no, no, no. You're saying because you saw someone tweet it
and now it makes sense in your brain, you connect the dots.
You know we record this podcast, right? When this album first came out,
we discussed... No, I did not.
I mean, to be fair, he also says that he's not done
like it's going to be more bloodshed.
He did say that on the album as well.
I never lost who I am for a rap image.
Like, all right.
We had talked about this on mic and off
of what that blanked out shit was.
And Jay Cole said he wouldn't have lost the battle.
He would have lost the brother.
Again, we're just filling in blanks
with things that we think
that would make sense to what we believe.
Yeah, that's what we have to do here
because it's bleat.
But like this is my problem with rap critique.
Like there's zero truth or validity to this right.
I know.
It's a podcast.
We speculate.
Yeah, we speculate.
We just speculating for the last hours.
We're speculating what it could be.
That's all?
You know you made it worse by just like, you could have said.
I hate there's such a waste of a conversation.
How?
How?
We had this conversation when the album came out that that blanked out sheet is probably about gold.
It makes zero sense because you have a fiends hoodie on.
That's why.
That's why.
It's not even fucking.
It's a jason.
It's a jace.
But it's not.
It's Dreamville a Jace.
It's more than Dreamville or Jason.
It's just Dreamville.
It's Dreamville.
It is.
It's the Dreamville artist.
Beans are different.
With state property, Rockefeller?
No.
All right.
He just don't want to admit.
Yo, what's so?
Why you just can't admit about your boy, Cole?
He's still going at your boy.
That's all?
And he did a nice thing by leaping it out.
Cool.
Great.
See you at the garden, Kendrick.
I'll be there.
See you at the garden, Kendrick.
Is Kendrick going to be there?
Listen, I'm trying to get on the list too.
What's funny is, I wasn't even coming here for any J-Co hate whatsoever.
No, his defensiveness is making it seem that way.
I think everything that Cole and Eve have been doing the
past 10 days has been amazing.
I was so happy to put all of my
favorite Cole mixtapes they put on
DSPs. I love that they're
still doing the audio journey. Yeah,
I still haven't heard none of them. Well, you need to.
It's a good story. We'll buy it. Yeah.
Yeah. Ten bucks. It's ten dollars.
I listen to it this week. I think it's so
cool for the 10 year anniversary
for what I think is Cole's best album.
They're doing a 10 year anniversary show
at the garden. Look at Cole. They're separating
tickets for the dollar and dream shit.
I see what Cole is doing.
No, no, no, no, no, we not letting Cole do this even if the battle never happened.
We let Drake do with 100 gigs.
He know we love this shit.
He know we love the dial and the dream.
We love all of that.
Double plan of no fear.
He know we love that.
We also love to come up, warm up, Friday night lights.
We love all of that.
Three of some of my favorite mixtakes that's ever existed.
We love all of that.
We love everything pre-battle.
We love all of that shit.
I like grippy.
But don't, no, you don't.
Yes, I do.
Y'all, I expect you to like grippy.
That's for, that's for.
Every time this shit,
Come out, I dance.
So don't do that.
You dance to the Maris.
It don't matter what's on.
You want, you get Casamigos and fucking whatever in your system.
This is coffee.
Well, today.
Coffee amigos.
But you was on stage shaking ass to Ice Spice and you told us I mixed with.
Acamigos and Scott.
Exactly.
So my point is that thing.
I mean, if I had Casamigos in my system, I'd probably dance to Grippy.
That's cool.
What would your move would be like your?
Gras.
You would just do that?
No, you.
That's what you did.
Yeah.
Grab the pan again.
We're making the same joke.
Yeah, that's what you gripped.
I turned the broil on.
Third degree burn.
Turned.
Turn the broil on to just grab the skillet out of the oven.
Yeah.
I'm grippy.
Yeah.
Cole, no,
yo, Cole, stop, man.
Because, you know, you're going to start.
Well, he can't do a 10-year anniversary?
Nah, because he's trying to make me fuck with him again, man.
I don't like that shit, man.
I see what Cole doing, man.
I guarantee you that ain't what he doing.
He never go fuck with you ever again, bro.
Listen, I might as well just be TD in here
because the only person that's never been compromised in a battle period is Kendrick Lamar.
What do you mean?
I know that sounds like it deserved him.
He's never been compromised in a battle.
Oh, shit.
Why you get him stored it?
I got both of them.
No, I don't know what he's talking about.
What are you talking about?
Stored it.
You look like you dress a little West Coast today.
That's a West Coast ass outfit.
You had the beanie on, the button all the way up.
Look what that.
Look what that bean he says.
Okay.
All right.
And it's cold in here.
You dress like a gnarc.
Fuck out of it.
I would definitely, I would definitely wait in the same.
Subway.
Yeah.
Like, yo, you know, you got...
You stand at the subway,
like you got your AirPods.
So somebody jumped the turn.
Where's the blow?
Yeah, get out.
Where's the blow?
I know a knock when I see one.
Wait, right now.
Let's not get back to your point.
Kendrick's the only one that hasn't...
Kendrick's the Marr's never filed a lawsuit in a rap battle.
Kenridge Lamar's never ran away from a rat battle.
There's only one man that hasn't been compromised.
Or lost a rap battle.
He's only been in one.
That's not fair.
You got to start somewhere.
Because Drake has won rap battles, clearly.
There's only one person that's never.
even been in a rap battle.
Stop, man, because I'm thinking about going to this concert
and you're going to make it change my mind.
You think you're invited.
You think with the wait list of 150,000 people,
mall's a priority for the Dreamville show?
You think I can't get in?
They ain't even going to give you a dollar in a dream thing.
Of course, I think you could get in.
Oh, okay.
That's all right.
I think you could get in without them knowing.
I was going to say, what the fucking the Dreamville is going to do,
chase me out of MSG?
Yeah.
Well, they could just be like, you're not welcome.
And Madison Square Garden?
Yeah.
Get the fuck out of here.
First of all,
they probably wouldn't notice.
I'm saying mall could get in there either way.
You got to do a 6-9 did.
Like cover your tattoos and put like a beanie on.
I don't have no tattoos.
No, I ain't got to cover nothing.
I'm saying if we went the route of the Dreamville crew,
no, I don't think you would be invited out of all the people that they'll need to get in.
See, that's what's wrong.
Y'all need a nigga like me and the Dreamville crew.
See?
Okay.
See?
See?
Because Cole would have been laying bars down
If I was in that can't
Because I'd have looked that nigga
Right in his eyes
In North Carolina
I'm like, nigga
It's fucking lit.
I gotta call bullshit
You're my man
But I gotta call bullshit
Okay, then how come at the end
The Heart Part 6
Drake said I don't want to rap anymore
You play this shit out
Why didn't you tell him to rap more?
Because that's what we were looking for
What did he say before that?
Yo,
I don't care about this
He said drop, drop,
And then he said why are you dropping too much?
Hold on, hold on
What else did he say in that song?
Yo, this is burnt out
You did too much
No, that all right
So you just pick
That's the end
You're picking all the bars that support what you're saying right now.
Yeah, that's a point of arguing.
Did he not say I could care less about your streaming data?
I'll see you later.
Speaking to what's going on right now.
He knew the bullshit the fix was in.
He knew what it was.
Fix was in.
Damn, that's our old people-ass thing.
He knew the fix.
The fight was fixed.
They put submitting his gloves.
Okay.
And Cole knew the fight was fixed.
Cole was scared to get punched in his face.
That's a difference.
He was ahead of drink.
He knew why we can't have, listen.
He heard not like us already.
You've talked enough shit.
about Cole. Right now, Cole is celebrating. He's selling out. He's about to sell out MSG.
Fire. That's dope. They don't need you there to tell them that this album is a possible
classic and we can celebrate 10 years ago. I don't need to be there to tell them that. I fuck with
those albums. I fuck with all I should cold did. He should do three nights. They should give him another
night. I agree. This one is obviously not enough. He could do two nights at the garden.
Did you go to the actual 2014 tour? When I was, uh, damn, when did that come out?
2014.
2014?
No, but I'm thinking where I was, like where I was in my life.
It was in Chicago.
I don't think I...
With the Y-Ns.
You were teaching.
No, I don't think I caught that one.
No, I was a...
It was good.
He had like the roof set up and...
No, I did.
No, you know where I saw it?
I saw it at Lalapalooza.
Okay.
It was a festival set.
But he did have the whole stage.
It was the roof set up.
That was, yeah, that was awesome.
Amazing.
It was really good.
It was a great time.
And also, the KOD one is the loudest I've ever heard the garden in my entire life.
I see.
That's because you've never seen Reggie Miller versus the Knicks.
That's your problem now.
It was dead quiet.
Who?
Are you crazy?
What's wrong with you?
You young Thundercats.
Y'all don't know what y'all be talking about.
Reggie scored nine points in two seconds.
It was, you couldn't.
Before that.
No, then it got quiet.
I'm going before that.
When the Knicks was up before that.
No, I'm saying.
It was the quietest, the garden that ever been.
That was the loudest I've ever heard the garden.
It was.
I've been to Jay Z shows at the garden.
I've been to Drake shows at the garden.
I'm not saying anything about their artistry.
Just their fans yell louder.
Loudest moment I heard of the garden was when Cardi B was at her peak.
And it was when Drake and the Migos did that tour together.
And Migos were opening up and Motorsport came on.
And Cardi B rose from the ground.
I have never heard.
It was like, it was, they'd say deafening.
It was the loudest I've ever heard.
I'd have passed out like Michael Jackson.
She just came out with rap bar, bar, bar, bar.
And everyone was just like, it was insane.
That was a good moment.
Was that the same?
And it was just as loud when Mello hit a game winner.
See this?
No, no, no, not, not.
Because concerts hold more people than basketball games.
What?
Concerts hold more people than basketball games.
Yeah, but you never been to it.
You never heard nobody in the game when it shot.
The Knicks.
Rarely is it loud in there.
Season opener, was it two years ago?
You could hear a pin drop.
When we beat the Boston Celtics in like double over time.
I'm talking about playoff game.
Playoff NIC garden atmosphere.
Yeah.
I'm only 34.
Oh, you never seen one?
Y'all was going to say.
I was.
You've never seen the Nick playoff game.
That's fucked up.
Mello made it first.
round.
Nah, man, they just went to the playoffs last year.
I know, I didn't go to anything.
Yeah, but they looked.
That was like a fractured Knicks program.
That was rough.
But it was still, it was still high school.
I don't get a,
I mean, that was amazing month.
We didn't win a series, yeah.
Yeah.
See?
But before that, no.
You're making it sound like the Knicks don't make noise in that arena, but don't do that.
Before that, J. Cole was the loudest that ever.
That's disrespect.
I haven't seen Cole since 2014 when he came to Syracuse and the tickets was like
$15.
So, um, how much are the tickets now?
I can get in.
I couldn't even get in the queue to buy a fucking ticket.
I have no clue what they're going for.
But they set aside
2014 of them for a dollar, right?
Yes.
Okay.
But you got to show up to
fucking the dollar in the dream location.
Is it going to be St. John's?
Eve, I swear to God.
Is it going to be St. John?
That would be so evil.
Where is St. John's?
And Queens, far.
Oh, that's obnoxious.
That is, that's rude.
And it's not like there's a train stop.
You got to take a train, a dollar cab,
then walk.
God, they should do it in,
where do he apologize at North Carolina?
They should do it there.
sure it's kind of like the rebirth
like he died
Jay Cole died on stage so day of
people are supposed to go to Raleigh
and then wait in line
hope to get their ticket and then
fly back I would do it
I would do it there's some people that'd do it
that's like when Huff made those people
go to Queens and get them a sugar cookie
made them walk you mean
it was cheesecake they went to
and it was Brooklyn
whatever yeah sugar cookies
I mixed this I combine the
Chappelle Skit with the
I get the actual story.
You know, in retrospect, though, was that that bad?
Yes, that's annoying.
It's fun.
It wasn't.
It was, where were they walking from?
If you are, this is.
It was right there on like 39th Street or something like that.
Walking to Brooklyn?
No, it's a cross from the Universal Building now.
It's on Broadway and 57.
Broadway.
Yeah.
Oh, Broadway.
Yeah.
So for those that don't know locally, yes.
It was cold, though.
It was cold.
That's a far walk.
It was cold.
Don't get me wrong.
It was cold.
That's a far walk, but, you know, if this is my shot, like,
and I'm on reality TV with Puff and Puff is Puff at that time.
Yeah, you need me to go walk and get that shit to prove to you that I want to do this shit.
I want to follow my dreams.
Yeah, I'll do that.
I've walked further for free, though, as a kid.
We used to walk everywhere.
If only they really needed to know, if only they knew at that time,
that all they needed to do is go next door to Dwayne Reed and get a bunch of baby oil.
Do we have any voicemails, June?
Are we on voicemails?
Yeah.
You've got mail.
Please, just play a voicemail.
But yes, I would happily walk to achieve my goal of being an artist under Bad Boy.
I would walk to juniors for a cheesecake.
Yeah.
Especially if it's a group of us?
Yeah.
If it's a group of us, we shoot the shit.
We just got to laugh.
We got to laugh the whole way and be like, oh, we're doing some crazy shit right now.
Yeah, I allegedly pledged.
I wish that that's all it took.
Allegedly pledged?
Just fucking walk to juniors for a cheesecake?
It's a fucking regular Wednesday.
All right.
Someone get a pack of cigarettes and just fucking let's just walk.
Let's just smoke a whole pack and we'll be fine.
Time will go extremely quick.
But yes, let's start with our first one.
Yeah, in the spirit of a music heavy episode, this is a good question.
What's up, guys?
Hope y'all are doing well.
I'm not calling for any advice or anything.
I'm actually calling to ask you guys kind of a hip-hop question slash discussion.
So last night, the crew and I were all hanging out.
And eventually the conversation got to the question of which hip-hop artist do you think has had the biggest fall off in their careers?
So, you know, at one point, they were at the top of the game.
And now at this point, nobody's checking on them.
My answer for this was B-O-B.
I mean, in the early 2010s, it seems like he was everywhere.
He had hit songs with Eminem, Lil Wayne, two chains.
That man had a song with Taylor Swift.
And now in a huge song, Grunel Marz.
It just kind of seems like no one's checking on him.
And I actually went back and looked at his discography,
and he's never stopped releasing music.
But I haven't heard most of the projects after maybe 2014.
So who do you guys think for hip-hop artists that at one point were huge?
And then almost in like the snap of a finger,
no one's talking about them.
I'm interested in hearing what you guys think.
Thanks.
Bye.
that's a good question
yeah I like that one
I always love Bob by the way
Bob is interesting
what did happen
after listening to this
earlier today I was like
what did happen to him
um
like I don't get why
I'm even looking at like
what I have in my
like from hi my name is Bob
Bobbers Bobby Ray was my shit
great out
and then Bob presents
the adventures of Bobby Ray
was that was the big one
when he had Bruno Mars is on this
Janelle Monet
Eminem
he had
he read a bunch of stuff for TI.
B-O-B had one number one
hit for top 10 hits
in 20 songs that have entered the Billboard
Top 100. So yeah, this is a...
I mean, we kind of still...
My pick for that would probably be Nelly.
That's a good one.
But Nellie didn't have a fall-off, fall-off.
He just kind of fizzled out.
Nellie had a pretty long career.
Anything from Diamond
is going to be a fall-off.
Nellie's last album was 2021.
I missed that.
Heartland.
Okay, but which one...
Was that like a country album?
I believe he put out, I'm pretty sure his last one was a country.
Because Nellie had about like a three or four album.
Which one went diamond?
Country grammar.
First one.
Okay.
Nellyville to me is like a rap version of fucking thriller.
Every song is a hit.
Seven times platinum, Nellyville.
What was, um, what was on sweat suit, sweet suit, sweet tooth?
So that was a double album.
Sweet tooth.
Sweat went platinum.
Suit went triple platinum.
But they were, yeah, they were double though, right?
He sold them differently.
Released on the same day.
Which is crazy because these debuted at one and two.
Okay, and that's in 04.
That's crazy.
Then his next album, which admittedly as a Nelly fan,
if you had a gun to my head,
I would never say that his album after that was Brass Knuckles.
Never heard of it.
September 2008, that won gold.
That's four years later.
He stopped making music.
So is that really a falloff?
No, I don't.
What do you mean you stop?
These are all albums after that?
Four years at a time when it was a,
year album cycle.
Nah, that's four years of Nelly not making music after that run.
Especially in that time when music was changing drastically every year.
Yeah.
But he said like nobody's checking for them, nobody's talking about them.
Oh, after.
We talk about Nelly because he's on Brasson having another baby with a shot to, but outside of that.
I mean, yeah.
But also, he's a legacy act now just for everything that he's done.
Well, that's the case.
Then 50 cent had a harder fall off than Nelly if you're going to go by that metric.
I think they had a similar one.
I just think 50, his interest went to other things.
So I don't think it's a fall off.
No, man.
Because 50, 50 just did a world tour
was packing out arenas.
But Nelly could,
wasn't Nellie on the,
on the Millennium Tour?
Maybe.
But I still think Nellie could do a tour.
50's own tour
versus Nellie being with other people on tour.
I think Nellie could do a tour if he really wanted to.
He can, but will he do the same venues that 50 was doing?
No, but 50's a more of a worldwide artist
than Nelly was.
Nelly went diamond.
Yeah.
What I want to challenge the room to is B-O-B is,
I think we can say Nelly, 50, all these older guys.
B-O-B is younger.
Who of like that class?
I have someone younger than B-O-B.
That's what I was like, who of the younger class?
Oh, you take it right on my mouth.
Fettie Wattie Wap.
Well, we know why he.
Yeah.
Yes, I think, and free Fettywap, like I know he's going through a lot about to do.
He's going to get out relatively soon.
And from my understanding is doing the best you could do in jail.
He's doing well.
He was before that case had been a falloff,
but I don't blame FettyWap for that.
I think 300 just like oversaturated
and did not spread out the 15 hits that he had.
Like when you flood Billboard
with that amount of hits at one time,
you're fucking your artist over.
Like the only option from there is a falloff.
So I don't blame FettyWap for that,
but that was a falloff.
Better record is FettyWap or Young Thug.
It's tough because Young Thug has so much more to pick from.
Yeah, I'm biased.
I love.
But if we're going hits, like just straight hits, I may lean towards FettyWap.
I would lean towards FettyWop over Thugs hits.
And Atlanta is going to quite literally shoot us when they hear that.
But I also don't think it's fair because if you go through Thug's catalogs,
it's apples and bowling balls.
Like Thug is, oh, way over here when it comes to music.
FettyWap has one album.
So I don't think it's a fair comparison.
So if we move it to hits, I probably take Fettie's hits.
Okay.
But I also compare that to like that summer and, you know,
It's a moment in my heart.
It's also our New York, like our northeast bias,
because I would pick a boogie's hits, B-sides,
over a lot of people's hits.
I would too.
I love boogie.
It's a regional.
Not a fall-off, but someone that has clearly taken a step down
from where they started, Roddy Rich.
Yeah.
Unfortunately.
Yeah, but I think Roddy's young enough that he still has time.
Definitely.
And he has the skill.
I'm not trying to sound like a fitting on Roddy.
It was kind of crazy where Roddy went from
arguably one of the biggest artists to that album coming out and everyone liked.
Isn't he on Kendrick's album that song I like?
Yeah.
He's some back.
Is it dodger's vocals?
I mean, one might say the same thing about a little baby, too.
Oh, he's currently in his, what seems like his decline, at least public perception-wise,
people are very openly shitting on him.
Yeah.
And I love Little Baby, but it has seen that way that he lost the rap game's hearts.
Yeah.
I mean, people were really saying like Baby's going to be the next.
superstar of the next legend.
They were calling him Hove.
They were calling him Atlanta.
But I don't put Koreans and say
like people that say shit like that.
Shouldn't even count.
I don't know who they are.
See, that's my problem right there.
We got to start putting names to this type of shit.
Don't just say they was calling him the next hole.
We needed to know who they are.
Give me their names.
Like, fuck all of that.
Yeah, that's crazy.
I don't know.
Hove.
Hove.
They just, the names that people just play with to throw around is crazy.
It's funny, though, just thinking.
about the difference of people from
like Nelly's generation versus Fettywaps,
I can find
so many more instant falloffs
with this younger generation because shit is so quick,
it moves so quick, it's microwave,
people can be number one artists on YouTube
and have no follow-up by six months later.
They're a non-factor.
We're talking about people that had a four or five album run
and calling them they fell off.
That's a career.
That's a career, yeah.
Like that's what's so fucked up.
The average lifespan for a rapper is probably two years.
Two projects, if that.
Yeah, like, two years, you guys are giving a lot.
I'm just saying average.
Average.
I'm saying three or four singles.
Some of them don't even get to the first album.
No, I'm saying average is probably two years, two albums.
I feel wrong for even saying his name because I think it kind of goes in line with like Nelly.
Like these guys had great careers.
They just kind of, you know, things happen.
They go into different things.
Music changes.
An artist's like ludicrous, another person that was up here.
The Hollywood checks.
He didn't fall off.
He just pivoted and got a bigger bag.
Yeah, that's all it was.
Them Hollywood checks.
He's like, man, fuck this rap shit.
Y'all just gave me, what?
I'm about going to make a 17th fucking fast-glary.
Y'all gave me this to sit in this car in front of a boo-skirts.
Like, he's pennies compared to what he's making.
I like that back of the theater album, faces in the theater, whatever.
Theater of the Mind.
That's a great album.
And Ludacris was, quote-unquote, by rap terms old at that point.
Man, who cares?
I have Fast and Furious Nine to go shoot.
Like, Luda was still in shape when he was older.
Theater of the mind.
is a quality quality album.
That is when I tapped out with Louie was after The Year of the Mind.
Battle of the Sexes, he had, when I was in college,
Ludacris had a legitimate hit record.
My chick bad.
My chick, my chick, my chick, dude.
When Ludacris first came out, I was in middle school.
When I got to college,
Ludacris had a legitimate hit record.
Like, that's a run that I don't think some of our favorite rappers
or legends we talk about even could fit in.
I got the Red Light CD as a.
as a red light district as a CD
for Christmas. Back for the
first time I got for my birthday. Julian you make it too
easy that just
why you just you just throw a
lot right and expect me not to cut back to
it and go get that Christmas is like
three weeks after you know that. Yes Julie
you're right yes I'm glad you got red light
district I learned all the lyrics of blueberry
yum yum yeah
there goes again another look you just
keep and the potion do you guys
remember that time I had the back for the first
time a CD booklet
taped on my wall.
Kill him. That's how much it was. Do him next.
Do him next. Do him next. Do him next.
I'll do you one better. I taped
a game,
Hurricane, remember the Hurricane Sneaker?
Yeah. A hurricane sneaker ads
on my wall. Like, I had the collage joint.
Get him.
Yo.
My dad used to steal the
posters from like movies and
album releases out of the subway. He would
steal them and bring them home to me.
Oh, where's the, um...
Not how we got that James Brown.
The James Brown shit, my dad stole off the wall at BB Kings.
Like took it off the wall.
Yanks did.
Yeah.
Don't you guys miss when the fourth quarter we got the most music because of the CDs
that were being released for Christmas, like kids in CDs for Christmas?
Yeah, it would be, summer would be crazy.
Then they'd sort of take a break during fall and they didn't come right back.
Yeah, I kind of missed that cycle too.
But I don't know.
I think things are going to change even with release.
days obviously as we see what Tyler's been doing and everyone else.
I think that may change with fourth quarter seasons and things like that as well.
Everybody tried to go and be Beyonce and release on Fridays and yeah, go back to what
everybody ain't beyond.
Everybody ain't be.
I need to go back to what y'all were doing.
Give yourself the full week.
Any other artists before we do the next voice?
I was thinking another younger kid, Rich the kid.
Yeah.
Not the highest of highs, but was somewhere and doesn't seem to be.
But then at that point, that adds in like so many artists.
that were at that tier.
Yeah, I mean, his whole crew,
famous decks,
like that was like a whole...
Drugs.
Yeah, I'm gonna say lean.
Yeah.
With it, right.
I don't know, again,
younger generation,
I just don't count
because I don't think they,
they even got to a place
that we could call it a fall off.
Like, they didn't get to a place
where,
no, they just,
it just didn't work.
That's all it.
Ace Hood.
That's a good one.
Yeah, Ace Hood.
Ace Hood.
Ace Hood had a nice little run.
Ace Hood got...
Anchored, like, really rapid.
I think we talked.
We talked.
we talked about it like ace hoods versus
that'd be tough
niggas to have a tough
time standing in front of Ace Hood for versus
but that was also
and I don't know if he's spoken about it
wasn't there something with him and Khaled
is the reason why that run ended so
abruptly
Oh yeah
he took the imprint somewhere he took the imprint
to another label and
he spoke about this
Ace spoke about this on drink champs I think
yeah and he found out
essentially when I think we found out that
the imprint was moving to another label
and I guess they weren't taking Ace Hood with them.
He didn't come with the trade.
Yeah.
But Ace Hood got some.
He got some records.
He got some records.
A lot of people say Meek stole Ace Hood whole flow.
I can see the similarities, but I wouldn't.
I think Meek is really authentic to fit.
I mean, we know Meek could rap, but I'm just saying people.
Yeah.
Would you count Meek in this conversation?
I think Meeke's fall off was slow
And I also think Meeke had a career, a very long career
Yeah, I think things changed
I know he went through label issues
Even though I think expensive pain is just not his best work
I can't blame that solely on Atlantic
Like I just don't think the music was up there
But Mique is to me solidified
So that could change
Like in 2025 I don't think it would be crazy
If Mique had a record that had some
Yeah some momentum
Like he
It's certain artists that are solidified in my opinion
You can't really say shit about them if you look at everything they've accomplished already.
Just because we live in the society that he hasn't done it in the last six months or the last year.
He can't do.
Like now he fell off?
No, that's not the case.
Like, do I think 50 fell off?
No, I think 50 went and made movies.
Yeah.
I think he was like, all right.
He was cool over here.
Yeah.
Once you see that check from others from Hollywood, you like, man, I'm not about to sit in the student.
Then I got to fight niggas in the club and all this other shit.
Like, I'm not doing all that.
Pay the label fucking damn near half my money.
Yeah, like, I'm not doing that.
And also, like, is it a falloff or is it just smart business?
Do I think if before I self-destruct did the same numbers Curtis did that 50 would have
continued to make music?
Probably because he's a businessman.
But it didn't.
Right.
So I'm not going to overstay my welcome here.
And if he would have just completely fallen off and done nothing, all right, maybe that's a falloff.
Yeah, no.
No, he's still extremely relevant.
And like we just said, he went on a successful world tour just now.
And also the Lucy's he puts out don't get much traction because it's a whole different era.
They're fucking great.
That crazy song with P&B rock, I did not understand why it didn't go crazy.
He had the song that he ended up putting Chris Brown on instead of Sunny Digital of the original.
Crazy.
He puts out good music.
Yeah.
Just, you know, people don't care because he's older.
Yeah, they're not checking for it.
Designer was kind of a crazy.
Oh, damn.
Damn, yeah.
Damn.
nah man i don't even i don't even he did he have a what is it was this album right oh he put it out
that's what i'm saying i don't even know did he put the album out but you have to he just had a summer
like how big this song this not we not we can sit here and name 70 niggas if we're gonna do that
like designer okay so name a song as big as panda name a song as big as panda what i thought
i think james had a song just as big as that designer put out an EP this year maybe bigger that's what i'm
saying i don't think going to sit here and start naming bigger than i don't think
that was bigger than panda. It was amazing, but I don't think it was bigger than panda.
Trinidad, well, I mean, we got, we got to level, it might have been, we got Google,
level, we got to do that. You, but you can't Google everything was. You can't Google culture. You can't
Google culture is crazy. You can't put numbers the culture. What you mean? They just did it. That's
why Drake has got a lawsuit right now. But also, all right, too culture, though, that video of
all gold, everything was iconic. Like, that was culture. It was. A lot of, a lot of what
people said about designing when he came out was, wow,
listen to this diet future.
But it's not about him.
The song itself. All gold, everything peaked at
36 was on the charts for, 36. Let's go to
the numbers. Let's Google.
Whoa, whoa, whoa. Now y'all want to go to numbers?
Now y'all want to go to numbers?
Nah, yeah, yeah.
In 2016, which was the biggest year of fucking music
of our generation. For two weeks.
It had competition in this motherfucker.
Famedy. Yeah. Okay, and what album did it end up on?
But it was number one before that.
It went number one before Kanye.
Why you think Kanye wanted it?
My nigga, what you're talking about?
I'm just saying, I'm just saying, I'm just saying, I'm just talking about Panda.
I'm just talking about numbers all of a sudden.
You don't want to bought up the numbers.
First of all of a sudden.
We've been talking about numbers since 50 started.
Talk about them in 2004.
Let's go to Google.
You did that.
No, no, I was saying, because you were saying that it's a bigger song.
And I'm like, well, let's just go to Google.
We didn't have to argue it.
But I'm, I'm saying culturally, I was only talking about culture because that's what DeMaris
brought up.
I think outside of New York, like for the whole country, all gold, everything was culturally bigger.
In New York City, yes, Panda was bigger.
It went number one.
So you mean in America?
You were saying in culture.
I'm only only in America.
You mean in America?
He means in the culture.
American culture.
My culture.
Kanye wanted a song that he had nothing to do with on his album, but it wasn't culturally relevant.
I need y'all to make sense.
Well, the same company.
I need you all.
Turn it on.
First of me.
First of all, the same company within good music gave Trinidad James $1.5 million.
They did not give that to Timmy Turner.
No, because Kanye just bought him.
Yeah, then he jerked off on the flight.
He's going to give his master's back.
And then he jerked off on the flight and said it was because he was vegan.
Let me just show you.
I have never jerked off.
That's why I tell Loyon to not put us in seats next to each other.
You thought I was going to start jerking off.
Manda was so hot, Timmy Turner charted.
You're slow-wet.
Timmy, Timmy, Timmy, Timmy, Thri.
That's that record was hard.
That peaked at 34.
What was a Trinidad James had that second record?
I don't remember.
I love this shit.
Well, that's a few.
No, it was another one,
but then he had,
he had that little EP,
my side bitch is my main bitch.
Oh my man.
Oh my God.
No-mo.
That was my shit.
No-mo.
Isn't Juzy J on that?
Maybe.
Yeah, that was my shit.
My side bitch is my main shit.
My son is the mug of me,
no-mo.
Yo.
You just scratched the piece of my brain
that had a bit of the time.
That was a fun era too.
I haven't heard that song.
Music used to be so much fun.
No, you know what?
I used to be so much fun.
Let me not blame them.
Females welcomed.
That was it.
But that wasn't the second hit.
That was like a B-side off that quick tape they put out with all go to everything.
There was a second record.
This was like the intro to that shit.
Maybe they had some famous filmmaker I remember.
I had just left Def Jam.
They had someone like Scorsese was like going to do the video.
How we told my followers and we ain't named your man, McLemore?
My man.
That is.
You seem like you went to a McLemore show.
You loved Seattle when we went there.
He did a, uh, that damn, I hate that he said that long because
McElmore, because I went to his white-ass fucking private school for college,
McElmore did our spring concert, the year thrift shop.
And he was out there going crazy.
I bought a fur coat.
Oh, can't relate.
My spring concert freshman year was meek Mill.
I did not buy a fur coat.
That's not.
I'm just going to cover that one up real quick because people don't understand that I'm joking.
This is why I hate Google.
when we have these convos just to see if we missed anything.
Ms. Media. I don't even know why I'm saying their name. Number one, B-O-B.
So I'm like, okay, they're on the same, at least page of the conversation we're having.
Number two, low-pump. I'm like, okay, I guess when we see...
I don't think he was ever on to fall off, but number three, most deaf.
Damn.
Yeah, I saw that. That's ridiculous.
Oh, they have logic at number five. I don't like that.
You got. That's my man.
He wears a ring to bed.
He put it on when he goes to bed.
Not wearing it outside, but wearing it to bed.
He called it a dream catcher.
Yo.
Okay, so the theory with Cole's album,
The Fall Off, that's supposed to be his next one,
is that it has features of artists that fell off.
Who do we think is on that?
Mike Jones.
Mike Jones.
I don't know.
That might go crazy.
That would be fire.
It might go crazy.
You said Mike Jones
This is another artist from out there
Lower Hill
Camillionaire
Don't do that
Camillionaire didn't fall off
He's also like a fucking multi-millionaire
A billionaire
Yeah but we've established that that's not
Camillionaire is a billionaire
Damn near
Something like that he invested in tech
Early
That's crazy
Shout out to Camillionette for that move
I mean he lived by his name
And yes I'm exaggerating by billionaire
He's probably like worth 500 million
He's a trillionaire
A contrillionaire
there. He has to change his name
at this point. Who else? Who else
would be considered?
Camillioner did have like a run though
because even after like he had the hit records
what was the album that has like slick Rick
on it? That's a good fucking album.
I just can't. Oh, ultimate victory.
Even in 2007 Camillionaire were still putting out good meat.
See, y'all not culture, man.
Damn, is Jayquan considered a falloff?
Two hit records and then.
Yeah, I guess that would be considered that.
off of that tipsy record.
Yep.
August Ossena had a crazy fall off too, but he not hip hop,
but he had a crazy fall off to.
Yeah, that was bad.
Oh, we get it to R&B.
Oh, R&B is head.
It's some niggas that.
Cressette Michelle, number one.
Oh.
Well, no, y'all did.
And y'all fucked up for that.
No, y'all fucked up for no reason.
I never canceled her.
Yes, you did.
I still listen and blame it on me to this day.
I'm the one that's...
She was not on your first album.
She was not on your first album.
And she's available.
I would absolutely have Chrisette Michelle on my album.
Why you didn't reach out to her?
I don't know her.
You don't know her.
Do you know someone that knows her?
Yes.
No.
Oh.
You know somebody that knows her.
Who?
You know a lot of people that know.
You don't think you don't know anybody in your phone that can get in touch of Chrisette Michelle.
I wouldn't even know who to guess that would know Chrisette Michelle.
Yo, you don't think you know.
You're my only Republican friend.
You don't think you know anybody that can get in touch of Grisette Michelle?
No.
Cut this shit, Rory.
You damn.
You probably was in the studio with Chrisette Michelle.
Didn't even know.
She was at, Def Jam.
I was there for Epiphany.
Exactly.
See?
But I don't think any of those people still speak to Cressette Michelle.
I thought it'd be different, is all I'm saying.
So did she.
She thought it would be way fucking different.
She was right, though.
He won't.
Do we have another voicemail?
Yes.
I still want to hear the Mike Jones and Jay Cole match up.
I do.
And pardon my Julian autism.
I met Mike Jones in an Orlando airport.
And I took a photo with him.
You asked them for the photo?
No.
We were with our track team.
We were running at the Disney.
Like, there's a Disney athletic.
Jersey swap with him?
No, I did.
You're so stupid.
I did not do that.
You reciting the phone number to him?
You said, yo, I tried to call you.
No, but.
You repeated the number?
But, guys, I'm sure I can actually find the photo.
What's the most embarrassing thing would not be me reciting the number.
I think I did this in the photo.
And you're not even from.
Gang shit.
That was it.
He was doing it though.
Yeah, but he's, I thought this one was doing with our hands.
I'm going to tell you all Rory's fake.
Well, at the me and green Atlanta.
I threw up
I threw up the noops
Oh what is it
Yeah, you can't do that
Well I did this right
That's what I mean
That's also blood too
That's what I was telling him
I said I'm big homie right
Just fucking shit
It's also like a right way
He's like nah you can't do that
Because another noop was what
You know they do their secret
Whenever they hug each other
And they tell each other
Yeah they cross
Yeah they'd like you know
August 23rd
977 whatever they tell each other in the air right
It's my mom's birthday
Is it?
Not 97th August 23rd
Oh that's funny
So
Nice
Now he's saying he's
he threw up the H like he's from Texas with Mike Jones.
Why I can't throw up the capital?
Because Houston is not an organization.
Like, you're not part of the fraternity.
It depends on who you're talking.
The mayor's over here trying to figure out how to do the police.
Oh, that was a bad era when all the girls tried to do that.
Oh, my God.
Well, yes, we were.
This is why you got to hug your daughter.
See?
We were leaving the Disney track facility for a meet.
and got to the Orlando airport and I saw a mic and, you know.
You didn't know what to do with your hand?
No.
You said 281.
Weird.
Rory had to tell me that that was a Houston thing.
I never knew that.
I'm sure I've seen it, but I never connected that this meant like Houston.
I never,
it's just this.
Oh, this?
Okay.
Does Texas Longhorns?
Oh, I never.
It's a Texas thing.
It's not necessarily always Houston.
Like horns down like the Oklahoma, their whole rivalry.
Speaking of rivalries, you guys see all the fights that happened over rivalry week,
That was incredible.
I like college football.
I mean,
nothing was worse than the Bears game.
What happened in the Bears game?
Coach got fired the next,
in like within two hours.
He deserved it.
What did he do?
He lost.
Yeah,
it was awful clock management.
He lost his job.
Had a whole time out
and just let the clock run out
to lose the game.
And then it was the strangest thing
had the post game was like,
I wouldn't change a thing.
Yeah.
All right.
Then we're going to change something.
Yeah, we're going to triple down.
We don't need to change anything.
We're about to change some things.
something right now. Change your locker. Get out of here.
Did you guys see Georgia? I think it was
State versus Georgia Tech.
Georgia Tech versus Georgia. Yeah.
It was eight overtime. Eight overtimes.
I can't wait for it. My mom was like, watch the game with me.
The game went in. It was incredible.
I was like, what the fuck? Yeah, eight overtime just
means both of y'all suck.
That's what I'm getting from.
Offense can't do a fucking thing. Eight overtime.
All right, fam. Like, what are we doing?
We kept scoring. We both in school in college is great.
So basically, once you get past
the second overtime, from third on,
it's each team lines up for a two-point conversion.
And if the first team scores, then, you know,
that gets a rebuttal, whatever.
And they did that,
either they'd both score or they'd both not get it
for eight rounds of that.
Yeah, both six rounds of that.
None of them can play defense.
Dion's son bawled out.
Do we think that they will enter the father's son
Hall of Fame eventually?
Just speculation?
Because he'll probably be like the fourth or fifth pick.
Yeah.
When you say Hall of Fame,
meaning what, like,
yeah, why?
The door is going to be in the NFL.
Archie Manning, Eli Manning.
Just NFL fathers and NFL sons.
I hope so.
I hope he goes to the NFL and is a little small.
Ball of Fame talent.
He's been ball and really.
No, he's talented for sure.
I just, I don't know if I feel like,
I don't look at him and feel as confident at the next level as I did when I saw
Cam Newton at Auburn.
Well, Cam Newton is like one of one human being.
Yeah.
Like, no one has ever built.
that that's insane of an athlete that he was.
I think he's the greatest college football play at all time.
Cam?
Yeah.
Yeah.
For what I saw, like just what I've seen, it'd be him a Reggie.
Well, he did with that Auburn team, like winning at all.
Like, I don't think nobody else on that team went pro.
I don't think.
I'm sure.
Some people did.
I don't think so.
Didn't really do much.
It wasn't like that USC team before him or that Texas Longhorn team before him where
it's like half the team was first rounders.
Yeah, Cam knew to me.
I mean, if we're talking, yeah, like our era, what we saw,
then I'd probably say Cam.
Cam, like, I think everyone would be like,
Jim Brown, which is like, obviously.
I wasn't boring.
I knew Jim Brown as an actor.
Never watched him play football.
Not even an activist, just actor?
Yeah, I saw him in he got game.
Staying on Colorado Hunter,
the clear favorite for MVP.
I mean, how is this going to work with him?
He should go number.
one overall. But it's like, what's he going to do?
Play offense and defense. He wants to
in the NFL. There's no way that a team
is going to let him do both sides.
Yeah, I see him. I see him more
as an offensive player, though. I mean, it's been
done. But like that
Troy Palomale. Yeah, that was
Troy Brown.
There's been plenty of
players that have done it in the NFL.
I just don't know if it's, if
it matters in the NFL because there's so
much talent to pick from. Like, just
put him at a wide receiver and we'll get another
a cornerback.
Yeah.
I don't know if it's worth
hurting him.
Fuck that.
But I, I'd like to see him
play wide receiver.
Yeah.
Same.
But I mean, also,
is that padding the stats
for young,
young Dion?
Because he's the number one
fucking wide receiver.
Yeah, but he still,
you still gotta be able
to get in the ball, though.
True.
And he's,
he had some crazy throws,
especially his past,
still got to be able to get
their last game together
was great.
I watched while their last home game
together.
No,
obviously gonna get a bowl game.
Yeah.
Oh, NFL.
Oh, hey, real quick.
Sakewan Barkley.
Ballin.
Will he win the MVP?
Nah.
You think Derek Henry will?
Second or third?
Yeah, Henry.
I think it's probably the favorite.
Josh Allen would get it before Seqwan.
But Seqwan is fucking bowling right now.
I still revisit the clip from Hard Knocks, like, to this day.
Of them be like, yeah, we'll let them shop around.
We don't need them.
Gotta love the Giants.
the Giants.
Let him get his worth.
Fucking stupid.
That is the most smug and arrogant GM I've ever seen.
But he tries to come off as a humble guy and he's not.
Like the way he handled all that shit on camera was nuts.
That's what I'm happy.
Like telling an owner like, man, I don't know.
I think the Sequan guy's pretty good.
Meh.
Let's just focus on the quarterback and the offensive line.
Where did that get you?
I love when GMs and owners down play a player
and think that they could just let them go and they'll be fine.
And then that player goes and fucking is up for MVP.
That to me is just like, just because you have money,
don't mean y'all know what the fuck y'all are talking about.
And maybe just because I'm weird in my brain of when I saw that whole thing
and he signed with the Eagles, I was like, that's fucking right.
Just go six exits down the turnpike.
You don't have to shift your life at all.
Your family can stay right there.
Like, dog, I'm going to go next door and get my value.
I don't have to go across the country, uproot my life.
Literally, I could drive from my house to practice.
I love it.
I love that type of shit.
We got on more voicemail?
Yeah, let's do it.
And as we've seen, one of the best
karaoke boys to men singers I've witnessed.
Shocking.
Yeah, at date night.
That glazes crazy.
Yeah, date night.
Who was at a birthday party?
Date night.
You think me, Sequan, and Ma'all had a date night?
I didn't say, like, y'all went on a date night with each other.
It could have been a double date.
I was just wondering how y'all knew Sequan could sing,
but I forgot Taylor's birthday, right?
I mean, you didn't have to...
You didn't forget because you just said it,
and none of us said it, so you didn't.
You said you...
No, you're just being funny.
It's okay.
Just say you're talking shit and you being funny.
It's fine.
No, I forgot until he said it was a birthday party.
You also, you said that on air whose birthday it was, I think.
Oh, okay.
I never knew I have to sit that on it.
The actual story was Sequin and had the mic and Rory said, do you want to share this one or should I get?
I can turn on this.
Is this a do it?
Yeah.
Okay.
He said you do the yellow lyrics.
No, no.
No, no.
What's funny is you guys could clown me about that, but I honestly, if he didn't have his crew with him,
like he had.
Boys to men. It wasn't just Sequin. It was him and his homies.
Like, I was thinking, like, maybe I could just be the deep voice in the background,
but he had it covered.
Don't do it.
Voicemail, I could do, like, the interlude parts.
I'll ask for voicemail 17 times.
Yeah.
This cop on from New Jersey. I'm 29. I got two kids, a 12-year-old boy and a three-year-old daughter.
I was married to my daughter, mother, for a year and a half.
That pause was crazy.
Jesus.
It's huge
Did know where Coppo
was taking us.
Jesus, here we go.
We split up asap.
So, like, maybe like a week after my daughter was born,
we just doing too much arguing in there.
One of the reasons we was arguing, though,
about a bunch of shit was because she already had two kids outside of me,
and she wouldn't let me discipline them.
Like, I'm not saying I'm trying to beat their ass,
but I'm saying, like, if I just say something to them to correct
or to correct them or lay down some rules or whatever in the house,
I got to argue with her just because I say something to a kid.
Now, fast forward to right now, I'm in another relationship with a girl.
She just moved into my apartment.
She got two kids, a six-year-old, and a daughter is about to be five or whatever.
And the same shit is kind of going on again where it's like I'm not trying to beat your damn kids.
I ain't hurting your kids.
I ain't abusing them.
I just go to say something to them.
And she's starting to like, not as bad as the other girl, but she's starting to like come behind me and say something when I just say something to them when they're in there wilding out.
And it be to help her because they drive her crazy.
I'm saying.
So tell her like, what should I do in these situations?
Should I just, should I keep, should I just lead this shit alone or I don't know him?
I think he should stop moving in with girls before figuring out if he meshes well with their children.
because I'm actually on his side.
If we live together and you have kids and I have kids,
I think we both together, this is our home.
We can discipline everyone in our home.
I think that's okay.
Agree.
But before you even get to that point,
I feel like those conversations need to happen
before you move in together.
That's where he's wrong.
He's not wrong by, you know, this is my house,
you have kids, we have this together.
Yeah, I will discipline any child that is.
in this house living with us. That's home.
But you got to have that
conversation way earlier, bro.
Like, yeah. You can't just start
disciplining a kid that ain't shows like
without talking to the parent
about it. And like, I never, that's not
established before you guys move in together?
That's a slippery slope. Like,
if your girl has kids and you have kids
and you have kids and obviously moving y'all together and
like chastising or like, you know,
disciplining her kid, like,
without talking to her, that could be a little
like, yo. He's obviously
saying that it's not physical discipline. And I'm not saying there's obviously bad verbal discipline as
well. But if we live together, I'll use myself as an example. In a hypothetical world, if I ever
lived in a home with another woman and Amara, and we established that we are together, which means I
trust this woman, also trust this woman around my daughter, and we live together, this is also
her home. Yes, she's allowed to discipline my child in the home in a respectful.
manner, of course. So I don't think he's crazy for thinking that. It just sounds like he rushes
into these situations without getting any rules established. And then as egg on his face, like,
oh, what the fuck? While he's trying to figure it out in real time. And make sure that y'all discipline
is balanced. Like either y'all have the same discipline type or you balance each other out.
Because sometimes there's a good, cop, bad cop parenting style that some people do. But like, yeah,
you got to know the type of disciplinarian that you're getting into a relationship with. You
can't be a gentle parent and then move in with somebody that's to sit y'all ass down.
Like it don't work like that.
Yeah, but some kids need to sit their ass down.
They do.
Oh, no, I'm going to sit your ass down.
Like, my friends all know you're going over auntie de Maris house.
It's strict over here.
I thought they were deluxe kids.
Bonus kids and nephews.
Bonus kids.
Yeah, it's strict over here.
You discipline your bonus kids?
Huh?
You discipline your bonus kids?
Yeah.
First of all, what's your definition of discipline?
Because we don't really know his, so it's hard to gauge on this.
What is y'all?
Just heard.
Go sit your ass down.
If they're doing something wrong, I think that's totally fine.
I don't even think that's discipline.
Because, Rory, if you and your girl broke up and her new man, she moves in with him,
and you find out that he told him my house.
See?
That's what I'm saying.
So you find out he told him all right, go sit down your ass down.
You putting the camouflage under the eyes and going to the curb, both.
You're not doing that.
You're going to shoot that shit out.
There's no way.
Nigger tell your daughter go sit her ass down.
Okay, but I also, first of all.
You must want to die.
I do think there are situations with how.
healthy step parents that is okay for, say, a stepfather to discipline his stepdaughter,
where the biological father, real father would be.
Call me, call me, call me, call me, call me, call me, though.
Ain't no man telling my daughter to go sit down.
No, no, but more, see, I think all what you're saying needs to happen before I'm living
in a house.
Oh, for sure.
Like, you are, you are correct.
I'm saying by the time we live together, those conversations have been done.
I have kicked it with homie, like, we have a full fucking understanding.
and I feel comfortable that this guy won't do some wild shit to my kid.
Yeah.
And yeah, if Amar is doing some crazy shit and it's somebody I, you know,
I probably won't like them because of just how my DNA is.
But trust them.
Yeah.
Because that's because I need to mature.
Yeah, you could throw a little sauce on it.
Like, no, don't fucking, well, don't say fuck, but.
See, look, you go keep making edits.
You're going to keep making edits to the discipline.
Hey, Amar, don't touch that.
Cool.
Yeah, if it's a hot skillet in the oven, then, yes, I would hope an adult would say,
you know, she witnessed that firsthand.
Yeah.
I would hope to say, hey, don't touch that.
But I mean, like, if your baby mother's new boyfriend or, you know, husband, she's
married is, like, discipline, yelling at your daughter.
No, no, I wouldn't like that unless it was warranted and there's, sometimes I think there
is a reason to yell at your children.
Oh, 100.
Listen, I mean, the marriage is here.
Go sit your ass down.
Go sit your ass down.
I'm from that university.
Yeah, I'm a whisperer.
Go sit your ass down.
Yeah, I'm from that university.
Yeah.
I like that.
But also, I mean, again, like you said, the parents need to communicate.
I've had to have a conversation with a bonus child's mother from somebody I was dating and their child lived with us.
And she, you know, kids get older and they notice that the parents don't get along and they try to play the parents against each other.
Like, oh, she yelled at me, this, and that.
So she came to me and was like, you yelled at my daughter.
I said, I did, in fact, yell at your daughter.
Your daughter was kicking her cousin in the bowling alley.
Foot was like Jackie Channey High.
So I said, put your foot on the ground.
No, that wasn't yelling.
She understood what I was saying, though.
So like, but you got to have those conversations because you got to know me to know that
I'm not taking out any type of generational trauma or hurt or self-hate on your daughter like
a lot of women do or a lot of parents do.
No, I want your kid to be the best version of themselves.
And if they're going to be around me, then I act like they got some goddamn common sense.
If you don't like that, then don't have them around me.
Yo, if, if Kea's a new dude came up to me and said, I want Amar to be the best version
to herself, I would knock him clean the fuck out.
But that's, but you understand that's you being immature.
I just want their daughter to be the best version of herself.
After you were yelling at my daughter, I'm killing everybody.
Do you see how immature that is, though?
Yes, I'm immature.
Yo, what would hurt you more, finding condoms in your daughter's drawer or a shistie?
Yo, they may have a connection.
Who's shysdy is it?
You fucking the guy with the shiasty?
You fucking a shooter?
Yo, your daughter fucking the shooter is crazy.
And where did he tell you to hide his gun?
You find out your daughter's fucking a shooter and you ain't no shooter?
Would you rather she fucked it?
Would you rather she fucked the niggins into the store?
Who's the good person in this name?
I mean, that's Uber Each.
Yeah, this is like the- That's honest.
This is such a bad, like there's no winner.
If I found condoms and a shiasty, I would ask, I'm like, all right, where did he ask you to hide the gun?
It better not be in my fucking house.
It's definitely the money.
If you think I'm going down for a class A felony.
Yo, I cannot wait for Amar to get in high school.
Yo, Rory is going to lose his mind.
Condoms would not make me feel good, but I would hope I would be having that conversation with her before, like, I found the condoms.
No, fuck the condoms.
The shi-stie, though.
We're going to move to a warm climate where no shyses will be inside.
No, that's what they be.
I know, right?
In Florida, they be wearing this.
I'm like, yo, I know he was hot on that robbery.
Yeah, his gun was hot too
Just finished shooting that
Motherfuck
Now it was in your garage
Why didn't he take his shysty?
You know, if you're doing a hide in the gun
That's crazy
That's a different level
It worked out for Karen and good fellas
You saw wish he hit at that
Fucking idiot
blew my mind
Put in a crotch
It was like
That's the milk container
It's from the front door
They weren't gonna find it
Karen
And her defense in that point, they were going to find that.
The drugs?
Yeah, he was just a fucking, yeah.
He was an idiot.
But if I asked you to hide a gun, don't hide it in the milk thing at the front door that gets replaced by the milkman every day.
Yeah, no, that was stupid.
That bloody gun.
Yeah, that was dumb.
But back to homie with that call that asked us for advice.
Yeah, like we all said, you need to have these conversations before you move women into your house.
And also, there's a thing with single moms that I've seen from the single moms that I know.
they're very overprotective of their children because they feel like they have to be because
they've been doing it alone alone for so long.
So there is something that comes with that.
To me, he sounds like a serial monogamous.
Like he hops from full-blown relationship to full-blown relationship.
Family to family.
And probably just needs to like chill for a second and take your time with this.
There's nothing wrong with dating a woman that has kids and blending families.
That's completely fine.
but that also requires you to take a lot of time and care in how you're going to do that,
not just moving in with each other.
Do you laugh at it?
I just pulled up what's on the screen.
I'm just ready for Maldiv.
Oh, statement from, I mean, we can't not talk about this.
Ball, go.
Listen, did you think he wasn't going to pardon his son?
I like the move.
I like the move, too.
I like it.
I think it's, why not?
No, but don't say that because, see, all right, cool.
I like the move.
All I'm saying is, is one of three.
Trump's kids get caught up in some shit, I don't want to hear y'all saying, oh, they need to
fucking throw them in jail that don't, I don't want to hear, keep it even.
No, keep it even.
I think they're all criminals across the board.
I think all, all politicians in their sons.
Trump's proving that he'll get criminals off.
He got off Manafort, Rodgersstone, Michael Flynn.
Yeah, but this is the man that.
I think that President Trump will pardon his kid.
This is the man that created the crack law.
He created the crack laws.
Yeah.
And his son got caught with a shitload of crack.
It's a gun, right?
That's what, it was a gun and not.
paying his taxes, I think. He had crack.
Enough crack to put somebody away
for life. And now he's
pardoned. I'm just saying. Two
hookers crack and a gun. It seemed like a fun
weekend. I'm just saying my uncle did time for two grams
because of Joe Biden.
That's all I'm saying.
You know, why I like the move, I typically
wouldn't. Why I like the move is I think it was a big
fuck you to the Democratic Party
around him. Because I do believe Joe Biden
when he initially said, I will not be partying my son
if he's guilty. I believe at that time he
felt that way. I think he is
now about to get... He didn't
feel that way. He didn't even want to admit they was fucking
had business with Russia. That's because he was
involved in that. Exactly.
Had Kamala.
I had Kamala won. I don't think he would have done this.
I don't think he would have done this. I don't think he's
pissed off his own party. I think
his wife also, outside
of that being a family, is
even more pissed off at Nancy
Pelosi, Obama,
Kamala. Everyone in that party. If Kamala won, she
would have did it. She would have pardoned him.
Kamala would not have pardoned.
Hunter. I don't think so. I do not think so at all. I don't think her and Biden get along
whatsoever. I think she wouldn't do it just despite Joe Biden. I think Biden hates everyone in
the Democratic Party, right? That he can remember at the moment when he's not eating oatmeal.
And ice cream. Like when he gets, you know how people with Alzheimer's like sometimes just get
these moments of clarity? I think that keeps repeating in his head and he gets pissed off
every morning when he remembers what they did. Did Trump release a statement yet about him pardoning Biden?
I don't believe so. I'm sure he did. I'm not on truth. Truth. Truth.
No, he's on Twitter. He's back, baby.
I know, I know he's on. He's on X. Big X.
But he's still, a lot of the X stuff that gets posted is via
truth, they say. And a lot of the videos that are going
viral now with Trump saying this, that and third, those are videos
from two years ago, three years ago.
Listen, man, I hope Biden shake some more shit up before
January. Go nuts while you have the power.
Whoops, sorry. Yeah, I like the move.
I said privately with my family, I was talking about
him potentially doing this long before this became
thing. I said, I think the fault of the Democrats is they still put the, the constitution and the
party and like the morals of like what politics should be ahead of their own interests to a fault.
I said so much so that I don't think Biden will pardon his son. So it's him seeing him do this
is Troy's point. It's a fuck you to everybody. It's like, fuck it. They play by these games.
We can too. Why not? Let me get my son out of here.
Told the whole world that I was completely fine. And then one day was like, nah, your vice president is now.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I think he hates them.
We're going to see.
Well, tickets available now.
We do have our last show of the year, Rory, December 14th, Gramsie Theater in New York City.
Some tickets are still available now.
Can't wait to see everybody here.
We always have fun at the New York shows this summer year around the holidays.
Before closing, I do I do want to send a special thank you to Dr. Figg, an entire veterinarian team at Virginia Tech.
Me and my family, we had to put down our family dog last night.
hear that. Yeah, man. That was one of the toughest things I ever had to do. But the entire staff
was, was beyond gracious, great. I know they gave them as much comfort as they could,
you know, before we had to make the difficult decision to put them down. So especially thank you
to Dr. Figg and the entire veterinarian staff at Virginia Tech. Appreciate you and everything that
y'all did. To the burn specialist, I can't remember your name. But thanks for my hand.
Wait, that's great. I mean, it's an awful coincidence.
but my brother's dog, they just put him down, like, over the break when I was home.
It was my, like, niece's first real loss.
Yeah, we just put him down.
And, I mean, when I got down there, Wednesday, perfectly fine.
Great.
Oh, really?
Friday started, had it just like a little limp.
We thought maybe he, you know, jumped off the couch and just heard his leg or something.
That was Friday.
And Saturday woke up and he was literally dragging himself, couldn't even move his back legs.
Sumer?
No, he developed.
It's common.
French is it's called IVDD. Okay. It's very common in French and French bulldogs, but his
developed so rapidly. It was just like, you know, and then we took him in and they said, like,
his spine was starting to liquefy. So it was like, it was nothing they could. Exactly same thing that
happened. It was nothing that they could do for him. Like, it was just, you know. And then because
he was nonverbal, like, he didn't bark. He wasn't like a aggressive dog, never really bark, nothing like
that. So he wouldn't even weep if he was in pain. He wouldn't even, you know what I mean? Like,
He just was that type of dog.
So, but they, you know, they let us know that it was, it was absolutely nothing they could do.
And, you know, he was in pain.
But he couldn't, he would eventually become completely paralyzed.
Damn.
Well, my condolences.
Yeah, man.
Dog person.
So that, I view that as, like, family members.
Oh, my God.
My condolences to you for sure.
Yeah.
Especially around the holidays.
Yeah, that was, that was tough.
But all dogs go to heaven.
That's a fact.
That's a fact.
I want to go to that heaven.
That would be so much fun.
Puppy have him?
Yeah.
There's a bunch of puppies.
It's just dogs and DMX.
Man.
Sounds like dogs and DMX.
What's up with you, bro?
Yeah.
I get it.
I mean, I'm so sad about X.
But I feel like his last thought before he did go to the other side was I get to see Boomer.
Yeah, 100%.
Yeah, I definitely think X is with where all the dogs are in him.
100%.
Absolutely.
All right.
Well, this has been fun.
Good to see y'all.
Welcome back.
Yeah, man.
and enjoy the rest of our week.
Be safe, be blessed.
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