New Rory & MAL - Episode 332 | Sittin’ & Spittin’

Episode Date: December 31, 2024

Happy Last Day of 2024!! For the new year, Rory got botox, Mal’s considering a good beard dye, and Demaris is insisting upon catching new bodies come hell or high water. Christmas has passed, & Mal is actively avoiding accountability for his very wrong take on Beyonce’s halftime viewership, which also begets the question - why are people so determined to discredit the greats? Speaking of discrediting, Jack Harlow is speaking out in his latest freestyle, claiming to not be bothered about being overlooked as a truly good rapper in hip-hop, and we run through his career to figure out where he went wrong and what could be next in his career. By the way, did you know LIl Wayne had a sports agency? Travis Hunter apparently did, and is under heavy criticism for signing with the company, as well as for his choices in women. We have a voicemail! This one is from a man needing advice on whether his woman is for the streets, or for him. We are then joined by our friend Elliott Wilson for a conversation about the current state of media and entertainment. He bashes Cam’rons ‘It Is What It Is’ platform and others, insisting they are not real journalists and don't deserve the opportunities they get. He presses Mal about Drake, helps us decide which anthems from LA are worth getting up to two-step to, + more!For MORE Rory & Mal, make sure you subscribe to our Patreon community, for exclusive episodes, first access to tickets and merch sales, private live chats with the team, + more! https://www.patreon.com/newrorynmalFollow Rory: @ThisIsRoryFollow MAL: @MAL_ByTheWayFollow Demaris on YT: https://www.youtube.com/@DemarisG To watch the podcast on YouTube: https://bit.ly/NewRoryAndMALYouTube Don’t forget to follow the podcast for free wherever you're listening or by using this link: https://bit.ly/NewRoryAndMAL Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoicesSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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We're pretty close, though. Listen to the Nick, Dick, and Paul show on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Happy last day of 2024. All I can say is, it was a year. A year happened. How many years was this year?

This year was like four years. Had to be. I used to have so much more thoughts on like, was this a good year or was this a bad year? I'm just in the gray area of all that now. A year happened. A year happened. And I'm here.

And a lot has happened in this year that made it feel like Great things, bad things. A few years. But, you know, this is December 31st, 2020. Four. Wow. Yes. According to Twitter 10 years ago,

2025, women will be having sex with robots. So we have one more day where you can get some pussy because we will be replaced in the morning. Okay. So I'm excited to see where that goes. Also, every baby being born tomorrow will be part of Gen. beta. What a, what a pussy fucking name. Really? Imagine being part of generation beta. 2025 is beta? Yeah. Okay. A bunch of beta days. All right. Well, I mean, listen, I'm looking

forward to it, man. This year was definitely a year of. At least, at least my generation is named after a great tour. See? What? Just that fast. What you mean? Just turned everything off. You're part of the generation too? Am I? Yeah, y'all keep telling me that. You're a millennial. It's all right. Barely. Yeah. Gen Beta is crazy. Thank God Amara is not beta. What is Amara? Big Alpha dog, I think. I assume if it's beta, it was alpha before, right?

I know my Greek alphabet. Well, how many years does it change though? I don't know. Isn't it like 15, 10 or 15? No, because millennials are like 81 to 93 or something like that. 96? It's like, yeah. That's why I don't think Mall is a millennial.

Why? He's an Ares. He's not that either. What? Why am I not a millennial? Whatever the moons and the stars, they change it. We've been through this before, but I just think it's funny that people are going to be called Generation Beta. They're never going to hear the end of that, especially from our generation.

Yeah. So good luck with that. You beta babies. Yeah, it is like, it's like 15 years because millennials are 81 to 96. That feels like, oh yeah, I guess that's 15 years exactly. Gen Z was 97 to 2010. And then, yes, she's alpha 2010 since 2024. So why are you, well, Baby, why you said you feel like I'm not millennial?

because you're bit like I was making a joke but it's like yeah you're like like you're scratching you were almost Gen X He birthed us By like seven By like 11 months

You were almost Gen X so You can't really say anything bad about millennials Because you really were our leader You started this millennial shit Yeah I was a millennial longer than you were You were very much longer than I was Yeah So put some respect when I walk out the house

But don't shit on the younger generation That's millennial mall Matter of fact call me millennial mall from that one That's what y'all gonna do. Call me millennial mall, all right? Nah, you know what I'm saying? But I appreciate you saying that I could. Glad we got a nice relaxing last pot of the year.

Why your kid calling Millennial Mall? That's all? My bad, right? I should have been calling you Eminem. Please, though. You've been Eminem, my bad, I didn't even know. Please, though. No, no, please, make it bad.

I just took the two letters, M&M. Make it corny. Well, I mean, I was a little offended. I mean, the group chat was quiet just because it was holidays. People were their family. but no one checked on me when I gifted myself major surgery

over the holiday break. What surgery did you get? I went under the needle, if you will. I gifted myself PRF for my under eyes. What is PRF?

DeMerey said I got Botox. I did not get fucking Botox. So, because I'm exhausted all the time and we're on camera constantly, I thought I would gift myself for the dark circles under my eyes because it always looks like

somebody knocked me the fuck out. This is our career. I went under the needle, man. Me and Kim, me and Kim K, Upper East Side. We got the vampire blood all over our faces. We sacrificed the child on Christmas Day. So what is PRF? So what they do essentially, and I'm not ashamed of it.

The woman that did it was incredible. And, you know, just small talk of like, what do you do? Why do you want this, et cetera. And I was like, you know, I'm on camera. That's part of my life. I have no shame and, you know, fixing dark circles under my eyes. And she was like, oh, we can hide it. Like no personal information.

I'm like, I don't give a fuck to tell the world that you took blood from my arm and then injected it to my under art like to make... Is that what it was? Yeah, they take blood from your arm. Okay. It's like an IBBO. It's like an eye fat transfer. Okay. But they do it with blood. Take it from your arm and put it like right

here to get the blood cells rejuvenate. And it looks like I probably got punched here. But there's three... There's three sessions. She said I wouldn't see any results on the first one. I can already see. I was very pleased with the whole procedure. And I think men, it's okay for us to do this.

I don't think we should feel ashamed. Botox, that's a little too far. I think my grandfather would rise out of his fucking great. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And smack the Botox out my fucking face. But I feel like with my ego and fragile masculinity, just taking blood from my arm and putting my eye out. It's not that bad.

I don't think it's that crazy. So, you know, I gifted myself. You look good. Got a little pamper day after you. Are you going to get the second session? There's two more. Three total. I got the package deal.

Okay. Christmas holiday. Yeah, actually. Okay. And I get $50 off anyone that I bring, yeah, if you guys want to go. Okay. No, I'm cool. We could swap blood too.

Like, I could put my blood under your own. I'm cool. I'm cool on having your blood. I will give you guys my blood results. I don't want your blood under my eyes. No. We'd blood brothers. It would make us family for real.

No. For this time. This time. Instead of signing blood under a contract, like we could actually have blood together. In our bodies. Yeah. And I could share DNA with bigs and hop. I'm cool, but you know, you look good.

I'm looking forward to seeing the full results of your new journey, your transition into, like, beautiful eyes. And once again, after Demaris ignored me with me sending my album to her, I sent her a photo of me in the chair saying bad bitch alert loading. No response. Nothing. He's a liar. I said, are you getting a BBL? That's what I said. It looked like I got two punches directly to my face.

and she said you get in a BBL. But your eyes always dark and like dreary and bad and hopeless. So I didn't fucking know. That's why I got the. His always dark and dreary. That's why he went to get PRF. There you go. And the amount of people like, not even leading up to it, the amount of people that have

Botox, I had no fucking idea. I didn't know that was such a common fucking thing that people were getting that. Like going to the dentist. Yeah, which I didn't know. Yeah, absolutely. I want to get Botox too. I'm going to start because Botox is supposed to be. preventative. So I do want to prevent some stuff from happening. What you want to prevent baby,

Dee? Um, like wrinkles in my forehead. Um, I have, I laugh a lot because I'm a childish ass person. So I have like prominent smile lines. Nothing that makes me any less beautiful. I'm still gorgeous. But just stuff that later on in life like, I don't, you know, I'm not aging gracefully. I'm pulling this shit way back. Okay. When I get older, I'm not aging gracefully. What was crazy is she was like, yo, don't. If you have to be on camera on Monday, I did this on Friday. On this. 27. Said if you have to be on camera Monday, your eyes are going to be super swollen.

Like, I hope you know that. I was like, well, I don't have, for the rest of the year, I have to record Thursdays and Mondays no matter what. This is the only time slot I would have, and I have to do it three times. Fuck it. I'll go on air. It'll be a funny thing to talk about with my eyes puffy. My skin didn't react to it in that type of way, except for the first day.

And I didn't mind explaining it to the pod audience that's going to make fun of me rightfully. So it was walking around in my everyday life on Thursday. day and Friday, we're like walking in to Kia's building with security. Like, yo, what happened? You know, we got to see somebody. Like, talking to my, because my family was there all the way through Sunday. Somebody put hands on you?

I was like, yo, what the fuck happened? Everyone was asked me what's going on. That was harder to explain what PRF was than anything. I was like, so why? Yeah. Because like, you know, all my family is blue collar fucking, you know, they're working, their road work. Yeah, yeah. Like, so wait, you took blood and put it in your eye for what?

I was like, because on camera I have dark circle. I won't use the word that they said. Oh, I know. One of my favorite. I should have just said I got knocked out. Yeah, one of my favorite words. They wouldn't have called me that if I got knocked out. Yeah. It would have probably been more manly if I was like, yeah, jumped, knocked both my eyes out perfectly in the same spot. See, before we got PRF, Baby D wants to get Botox. And here I am, I got offended that a friend of mine asked me if I died my beard. And I thought that that was completely disrespectful.

I mean, but it's common though. Yeah, but I would never die my beard. I wouldn't die. I wouldn't die. But you're also, you're getting older, Ma, so they probably think that eventually you would have gray's. I have grades now. I'm not dying it, though. I would never, you think I'm going to go get that coffee bean, die? There's more than just that, though.

It doesn't have to just be that. Well, that's the shade. It doesn't have to just be the Carlos Boozer. But that would be the shade I would have to get. It would be like a brownish black type of like mix. Not everything is a, what's the shit in Jersey that they use? Beijing. Beijing.

No, I'm not saying Beijing. I'm just saying I would never go. and buy a dye and get them in the mirror, brush my beard and, like, just sit still until it, like, soaks in and then rinse my face. I'm, for what? To not have gray hairs? You start smoking and starts dripping.

I'm not doing that. Like, bring on the grays. Oh, you're going to lay on a bad bitch, bad pillow all dark. Has that happened to you? No. I don't know. You think I look like, no, no.

You wouldn't know. No, I would know. My pillow would be fucked up. The fuck, no. You blame it on you, though. You're mascara. I, I'm not laying next to no. nigger that has to dye his beard.

See, oh, all right, see, so why was you surprised when I was offended by it? Because it's, because it is common. I'm hard to please, but it is common. Actually, you shouldn't be like. I just never understood that. Like, why? As an older guy, why are you trying to high degrees? Though I was offended over the holiday break, a woman told me that 20% of my beard is gray,

and I was actually offended by that. And I don't know. I started adding up the percentages of what she considered 10%. Like, I did a whole graph. of my beard. I was like, you're telling me, you think 20% of this little patch right here, which I don't mind. My gray's is my grace. Right. You think this is five percent, maybe. Yeah. I started maybe counting like one by one. Maybe maybe, maybe 10%. Maybe eight. That's like eight. I say eight. I'm at eight. I'm not 20. 20. 20 is crazy. Yeah, yeah. No. You're not 20%

gray. Because I was like, all right, two, four, six, eight, ten. You just proved their point, by the way. Wait, that's the math you did. I started counting individual pieces of my beer. That's how petty I was being about it. But now that I just did it that way, yeah, it would be 20%. Yeah. Exactly. Well, I'm glad you got your eyes bloody.

Yes. And hopefully, you know, you feel better. You feel more luxurious about yourself. And we'll see on the second treatment. Maybe my eyes will still be swollen. Peach, how's you looking on cameras? You looking beautiful? All right, cool.

For usual. That means you got to go back to the other two sessions. And like, no matter how I'm lit at all times, it always looks like I'm punching the face, pictures all the time. You know, you know. It's all right. It's part of the gig.

It's part of them, man. What's the ho's at for New Year's Eve? Baby, we should be asking you that. What you're doing for New Year's Eve? I said, what the holes are at you asking me where I'm a B.S. That's disrespectful. Not that you're a ho. You know where the hose are at.

You like women, so you would know where they're at for New Year's. I am going to be at home alone. Alone. No, I'm serious. It's going to be my first New Year's Eve alone. Well, technically, I'm alone. Alex and her boyfriend are going to be upstairs. And you're going to be by yourself, huh?

Yeah, I'm making smoke. I mean, I'm going to make some collard greens, some honey butter, cornbread, rice and peas. For yourself? For yourself? Yeah, and some smothered turkey wings. Why are you choosing this year to be alone? There's no other place I would rather be, honestly. Like if I, like, you know what I'm saying?

Like, it will be a force for me to go anywhere else. I just kind of want to be alone. No special guy that you want to kiss at midnight? No, I'm so good. guys one of my new year's resolutions is all new dick I don't want anything old I don't want no old holes

I swear to God I thought I was pushing it with new eyes no no new penis I thought I was pushing it with a new beard she said new dick yes I don't want no old okay this is what I hate when you give friends advice

and they ignore it until someone else gives them advice this is the same shit she was getting mad at me and Deiani about when we were telling her this in the car. Like don't spin the block. Maybe it's time to move on to something completely new instead of the same spin the block you've been doing for five, ten fucking years. Now all of a sudden it's, she's the chick with the baggage going up to steps. Yeah, that's me. You're not stepping over a new dick. You're stepping on new dick. Sitting. Spitting. I'm tired of these things. I'm tired of these things.

Wait, you're tired of them. Let's go get some new ones that we don't know. You're sitting and spitting on new dick. Sounds pretty good, though. If you had a strategy for new dick. Oh, my God. Sorry, Mom. Sorry. Now we're getting somewhere at 25, babe.

Sitting and sprit. Now, I'm so sorry. No, listen, go ahead. You're a grown woman. What about maybe like valuing new relationships and friendships before getting to know that dick before? But this isn't the audience for them. We know who our audience is.

But, no, I really, I had to come to the realization that I have been afraid to step out into new avenues in my life because I don't have the confidence. And I'm just, I'm scared of everything. I'm scared of failing. So, I keep going back to the same thing. You scared of what's new? I watch, yes, I watch the same, I watch the same TV shows because it doesn't give me anxiety.

I date the same men because it doesn't give me anxiety because I know what to expect. So there's a comfort zone there. And I want to step out of that. I want to grow. I respect that. So sit and spit. I don't know if that's the first step in the strategy. No, that helps anxiety.

I think getting to know someone that maybe lowers that anxiety and makes you feel wanted and respected, then you spit and sit. Listen, Rory, if somebody that has anxiety, I can tell you, Once you spit. You don't have anxiety. Much I feel anxious, I'll start spitz. You have the least amount of anxiety of any human being I've ever met. In 2025, I want to be more like your brain.

I want more anxious than 2025. I really think Maugh actually gets eight hours to sleep every night. I think when Maul closes his eyes, he goes to sleep. You know how fucking crazy that is? To lay down in bed and go and then fall asleep instead of having your mind race about 30,000 fucking things. You know why? And hating yourself and wondering what's wrong with you. I'm going to tell you the secret.

I'm going to give you the secret. you have to just lay down at night and say fuck it and go to sleep. I don't care what's happening. I don't care who needs me. My next response is like, well, why should I say fuck it?

If I say fuck it, this will happen. So what? So what? So what leads to all the things I can't control of all the possibilities of what would happen. Because here's why it makes no sense to go to bed stressed out

and anxious and all of this shit because if you look back at every moment where you felt like, I don't know how I'm going to get out of this situation. You got out of it, right? Sure. Not really.

I'm still in debt. Yeah, but that's, that's, so, so people, saw people with 50 and 100 million dollars. Yeah, but their debt is cute and part of their IRS strategy. Cute debt is funny. It's funny.

Make it a part of yours. They have cute debt that's like, hey, my company didn't make any money, but I'm liquid six billion. Yeah. So make that yours. I IRS call you,

I ain't got it. What y'all going to do? They told us they ain't got it either. Yeah, exactly. Road's still getting fixed. Y'all ain't got it. Y'all can't even find the $2 trillion. Okay, if I do that, then I will be doing the same strategy in a jail cell.

If I do the fucking IRS. Now you have no bills. But my asshole is probably in threat. No, that's movie shit. That don't happen in jail. Where are you fucking you? That don't happen like that, man. Wait, you don't think anyone would fuck me in prison?

I'm not like. No. That's like a little offensive. You don't think I would be. You don't think I would be. You don't think I'd be. I mean, I think I'd be a pretty high pick. You'd be a neckbreaker.

You want to do that draft on Patreon? What do you think you'd get drafted? What did you think you'll get drafted? What he just said was the funniest shit. We just can't say it on mic of what rhymes with Patreon and what would happen in that situation. Yo. But you don't think, like, coming like off the bus, like, you know, I would still do the jail strategy of taking the risk of, like, starting a fight just so they know, you can't completely

take advantage of me. And like, I still want to call my mom. You can't have my commissary. Yeah. But before that, when I'm just like on some Andy Dufrein getting off the bus and they all have cigarettes and they're betting, because I think prison is just like the 1940s, you don't think I would be high on the rape list of, I just got my under eyes done. I'm looking young, rejuvenated.

Well, it's more because you're a redhead. And, you know, you're like a trophy in the hood. A lot of guys have never dated a redhead or slept with a redhead. So maybe. I got a lot of pussy I didn't deserve because a lot of women had never slept with a white redhead. And we're just like, I'm curious. Yeah. A bunch of pussy I didn't deserve.

So I think I'd get a lot of prison rate that I don't deserve, but I'd be a commodity. They're going to whistle at you and call you Firecrotch. What? Fire crotch. They want to see if the curtains match the drapes. Unfortunately, they'd be a little disappointed because it's hardwood floors and that's shower time. You have hardwood floor? Shaving your pews in prison would be the funniest fucking thing.

Yeah, what you're doing, man? That's what you're using your razor for? Your manscaping in prison is wild. What you doing? What you mean? What's you shaving in prison for? What's the point of that? Maybe I don't know.

You ain't got no action. Ain't anybody from to come in here and see you? Unless, I mean, you would do some other shit in prison. I don't know. Luigi was getting his haircuts and shit. He's been in there for two weeks. But Luigi, what they said about Luigi, we don't know that this is a fact. Going off the news that never lies to us.

He's a bi-ie-y-lawing. curious, Italian Ivy League graduate. He definitely has a very interesting

pubic area in how he chooses to shape it up. Italians are hairy. I don't know how you got to that math, but you know,

it's all good. He probably got a little landing strip. Something, yeah, something interesting. Okay. Something a little

like vintage 90s to, you know, mix it up. But he's been getting haircuts, they said. He's been in there

two weeks. How many haircuts is he getting? He's been in jail two weeks. They just caught that nigga two weeks ago. How many haircuts are you getting in two weeks? That's hilarious. Well, I don't know how we even got on the prison rape, but over the holidays, let's not avoid the actual elephant in the entire fucking room. Maul needs to come clean and apologize to everyone in this room. Why? He's going to gaslight you and say, oh, I didn't know it was only on Netflix. Watch. Oh, that. We spoke about that off camera

No, let's set it up. Oh my God. Weeks and weeks ago when Beyonce had announced she would be performing on Netflix, Houston. What's, is it the Astros anymore? The Dome? Houston Texans.

Ratliff Stadium, whatever is in Friday night lights. She performed at halftime. You said it would surpass the mark of the Super Bowl watch numbers. Which we looked up, which I think was averaged around in the 80 millions. and Beyonce did, from what I understand, 27, or did the entire day do 27 with Mariah Carey opening up the Steelers game or whatever it was?

No, she did 27 during her halftime performance. Okay. Now, that's incredible. Incredible. And did I not sitting here when we were off camera and say, oh, I didn't realize it was exclusive only Netflix? But we knew that. I didn't know that.

That was the whole thing we even talked about. This is a crazy shift. if Netflix ends up getting the TV rights down the line, that changes everything. We had a whole conversation. It's okay to say that it was nowhere near what is going to happen with not like us in February. You literally said you were like, oh, Netflix better not crash, how they did with Jake Paul and what you're going to call it, Beyonce. That was like your first sentence. Yeah, but I still didn't because when I think it was me and Pige was in here, but we was talking about it.

And I was like, oh, so this is exclusively, these games are only on Netflix this day. was like, yeah, I was like, oh shit, see, I didn't know that. And I really didn't. But that's neither here nor there. Of course, it didn't surpass those numbers. But the point I was trying to make was the performance aspect of it. Yeah. This is essentially like performing after Michael Jackson.

Who wants to get on stage after Mike? Okay, I respect that you are shifting the narrative to take any accountability and that you were definitely wrong of Beyonce surpassing any Super Bowl numbers. With that said, I will now come to this new conversation, which is Of course, Kendrick Lamar is not going to outperform Beyonce Knowles Carter at any live performance. And this being a performance of Beyonce's that didn't have all her hit records, maybe my favorite Beyonce performance I've ever seen in my fucking life.

Really? This shit should be in the Smithsonian of live performances. It was so fucking good. I don't care if you call me a dick rider. I like to watch Legends on Christmas Day perform better than everyone else. That shit was insane. I thought it was amazing. It didn't make it.

matter. I knew the songs because I really do like Cowboy Carter. Play it often. It was even in my Spotify shit. Even if you didn't know any of those fucking songs, every single record hit with a new performance, it was incredible. It was a masterclass. I can't think of the last time I saw a performance that good, including Beyonce at the Super Bowl. This was better than her Bruno Mars shit. Even though it's a low and fair because there was a lot of other factors in that. She also had her own Super Bowl, though. I feel like y'all keep forgetting that. Oh, yeah, that's true. reunited Destiny's child and I still think this was better. I saw on the run

too, which was one of my favorite shows in person if she had this type of energy for an entire concert, I think it could be on the run too. And maybe I'm having way too much of a hot take in real time. That was one of the best performances I have ever seen.

I love the fact that she incorporated a lot of the young country artists, black country artists. I thought that was amazing. The first black rodeo queen. from Arkansas. I'm not thinking she had her on one of the floats. Blueby was there. I said, I'd yell

you louder for Blue than Beyonce. It was definitely a nice surprise when Blue just came in a frame. It was like, Blue. Yep. It's so nice to see her. She did such a good job. And only for the real Beehive. It was nice to see Ashley, the dance captain. When I saw Ashley and Blue, I blew my Beehive fucking mind.

It felt like 2016 all over again. No, she looked great. She sounded great. I've seen a lot of people online saying that Beyonce wasn't singing. Let me just assure you that Beyonce was definitely singing. But I thought the performance was dope. I just I think everything just looked perfect. The costumes, the choreography. Obviously, her vocals sounded amazing.

I thought it was dope. I thought it was a really, really good show. And back to what I was originally saying was the fact of the performance. How. That is what I said. He did say that. He did say that. We would never argue that Kendrick Lamar would not, would do a better performance than Beyonce.

I said if you're Kendrick, are you upset that they booked such a huge artist, a great performer like that two months before your dude to hit essentially the same stage, which would be a halftime show for the NFL? I don't know if I'd feel a way because it's... We've never seen this before. It's Beyonce. Somebody performed earlier, like Christmas Day, that's essentially a bigger artist than the one that has. the Super Bowl halftime show. I don't think we've ever seen that. Yeah.

This is something totally different. So I was posing the question of if I'm Kendrick, and I don't know how people don't feel like Kendrick wouldn't feel away about that. Like, any artist would feel about it like, God, I got to go out here and top that. Like, fuck. But I think when it's Beyonce, nobody expects you to top it. You can't. So nobody really expects you to.

Right. But we've also never seen something to a Christmas Day, the artist that's performing at that half-time show is a bigger artist than the person that has the Super Bowl halftime. We've never, I don't know, maybe I'm wrong, but I've never seen that. I'll say this. Let's say if maybe a Travis Scott did Christmas and completely smoked it, like we know he's a great live performer, but even above what Travis usually does, then I think Kendrick would have more pressure.

Like, damn, Tyler killed Christmas. Because he's a rapper? Yes. I don't know if anyone that's alive could be compared to a Beyonce live. show at all. I think everyone that could is past. Well, I mean, people online killed me. They told me that Travis Scott

performs better. They told me that Bruno Mars performs better. They told me that than Beyonce? Chris Brown performs better. They told me that. Did one person on Twitter say that? Well, a few people were chiming in. I mean, a lot of people named Chris. And, you know, we always give Chris as, well, I do. Y'all think that he's

okay. I just think Cuevo's a better dancer. Yeah, but I always give Chris his his flowers for being an incredible performer. I do too. But he was one of the names that a lot of people online kind of threw in dimensions. But people were running down a whole bunch of names and I didn't respond.

I was like, all right, man. At this point, fucking anybody can perform better than Beyonce. If y'all are going to start naming Travis Scott and Bruno Mars. It's like, all right, man. But you can't win in that Twitter shit because even though I know some people do have rough holidays and take it out on everyone else,

by the numbers on Twitter that couldn't have been the case. Some people are just like miserable all the time. Why are you so upset that I enjoyed a Beyonce concert on fucking Christmas Day? I don't know. Why is that upset y'all on Twitter so fucking much? Well, because I tweeted.

Some Ebenezer shit. She's the best, she's the best performer. I don't think that's a hot take. Yeah, like I think that's a pretty sound take. What I've learned about Beyonce, and I think this is more same point with Drake, but I think it leads more to, I think it's very easy with Beyonce

because she's a woman. People hate what everybody loves. If everybody loves something, there are some people who are just determined to hate it. They are determined to be the contrarian and it's annoying as fuck. I see it with Beyonce a lot.

They're like, oh my gosh, she's so overrated. You don't have to like her music but you don't have to say to her talent is overrated. It's okay. Your favorite artist or favorite singer that you're listening to

your cool little indie artist looks up to Beyonce when probably shit their pants if she was the blow a kiss in their direction. I just be honest. I just think it's the fatigue of seeing somebody be great for so long. I think at some point you kind of want to see somebody else surpass that person and kind

to see them. And I understand that, but my thing is at least let it actually happen. At least let somebody come along and really be better, a better performer than Beyonce, and be a better artist than Beyonce. Like, let it actually. But don't just start taking who you think is your favorite artist. I'm like, yo, no, you know, Travis Scott, you know, he would have smoked that. And it's like, I mean, I definitely have contrarian tendencies for sure.

but I also love greatness. Like what's, you guys don't want to live in an era where we witness greatness? Like, I'm not a Chiefs fan by any means. I think it's really great to watch Patrick Mahomes possibly become one of the greatest quarterbacks all the time. I love that I get to witness that.

I was alive for the Jordan shit, but I was such a kid, I didn't get to witness too much of it. I'm not going to hate the Chiefs because they're winning all the time. We get to witness fucking greatness here. Yeah, but you know, who doesn't want to see B.I.

Even if you didn't listen to Cowboy Carter, what's wrong with seeing a master class and how to perform? That was my thing. Even if you never heard Cowboy Carter and you saw that performance, if you're into live performance and artistry, you have to have to look at that. Well, these people aren't into art by any means. They're into opinion. And to Demeris's point, they want to have the opposite opinion of what everyone's saying because they think it garners some type of attention. If they say, yeah, Beyonce's performance is great, but why didn't she address Diddy during the performance? It's like, now you're, all right, man.

Like, I can't even have a conversation with you. Like, okay. But what about Epstein? What? She's on the flight log. So are you. All right, man. Who isn't on that?

But shout out to Beyonce. She definitely did her thing. Did you guys watch the football games? Yeah. The actual games. I didn't miss Mori and I'm not here to start an argument. It was a pre-recorded performance. Okay.

She mouthed. She didn't even record. She mouthed the lyrics on top of it. Yeah. The Steelers stressed me out so bad. And I remember. why I stopped being a Steelers. You a Steelers fan?

Yeah, I was always a Steelers fan. I stopped watching football during the boycott. And then my cousin got drafted to the Giants. So I was like, okay, well, I'll go. That's when I started watching football again. You agreed with police brutality after he was drafted. Then you were like, you know what, I mean, come on. Black Lives Matter, but.

I thought we're past kneeling. Giants are playing. Giants are playing. Black Lives Matter, but Giants are playing. Like, I get it. They put end racism in the end zone. Yeah, they did. Problem solved.

into watching the Steelers and, you know, try to see Russell do some good things, but it was tough. Are you a Steelers fan? It's usually your dad that makes you a Steelers fan. No, my dad's a Cowboys fan. My mother's a Giants fan. How did you end up with the Steelers? Who you liked? Big Ratha Sparrow.

Well, when I was a kid, I had a crush on Troy Falamalu. And I became a fearless fan. But Troy Benz out. The smell of conditioning it through the screen. Yeah. I had the hugest crush on him, but then I actually got into the game. football is my favorite. But Troy Palomalo.

Yeah. I mean, one of the greatest defensive players of all time. So I can't be mad at that at all. Luxurious here. Usually when it's Cowboys or Steelers, it's always their dad liked the teams in the 80s. But I've come to find out of people that aren't from Pittsburgh or Dallas. Yeah. It was a good Christmas for football.

I enjoyed it. Other than that, it was pretty fucking calm. Yeah. Same. Didn't do much of anything at all. I'm not turning up for New Year's Eve? I know I'm in the house, but. You, okay, somebody.

I'm going to Baby D's house with New Year Zee. I'm cooking all that shit. I'm coming in there. I just want to smell it. Okay. The food, the food. Because you know, the internet will take that and they'll go their way with it. The food.

She says she's cooking smoked turkey neck and smother turkey wings. Smother turkey wings and rice and peas and bake mac. No, I'm not doing Big Mac. You got noodle potato salad with the pepperique on there? Nah, potato salad? No, I'm not doing that. Why? I'm not cooking all that.

It's just me. It's just me. I am doing a stuffed shrimp, though, crab stuff shrimp. Hmm. Yeah. And an artist friend of mine texted me yesterday about New Year's Eve plans and sent a whole bunch of fucking locations that there's no way I'm going. We record, I think, not the next day, but the day after that, sending fucking piss on me Dubai Flyers, Miami, let's go to St. Thomas, all this shit where I'm like, yeah, it sounds cool, but I can't do that. Do that just with time.

I'm not going to say. I'll tell you guys off mic. Everyone knows who this person is. That's why I'm not. She hit me this morning and said, what if I had two tickets to Mara Lago on Christmas Eve? I said, how the fuck did you get two tickets to Mara Laco for Christmas Eve party? To go see the Big Don?

The answer is no, but now I have some questions. I didn't care about us getting shitting on in Dubai. That checks out. That's fine. Yeah. I understand that's part of the game. game. Emirates, if all

expenses paid, you got to take a little piss in the face, it's whatever. I just got my eyes done. I'll be all right. I'll fit in. But the Mar-a-Lago plus one was not what I was expecting to close my year out with. Oh, you should have win. And part of me, who is not a supporter whatsoever, was a bit curious just to see

what it looks like. Yeah, why not? Oh, you should have win. Oh, I would go. You're tripping. You're supposed to go to Mar-Lago. It's a short flight, too. Yeah, you're tripping, man. I can make it back to the pot and top. he has a family yeah but he doesn't support Trump

so I should support my family he got all those votes and nobody supports him who said that who you think he voted for when he went in that booth this guy wasn't Kamala I could tell you that that's not true you can look at my tax returns it's there

it did it did cross my mind to accept that invitation of course it did man see I would have what would I do at Maralago outside of just tweet LOL fuck it Yeah, play some pickleball Golf

Smoke with Kodak Black Yeah, smoke a cigar or something Why not? I don't even think Your big guy will be there though I think it's just like a party at Maralago Yeah, that's the best parties I throw the party at my house

But I'm not there's just a rumor that it might be in one of the rooms I think he's here No, I'm not I'm not there Yeah, like the amount of people that have probably went To like a Drake party at his house When he was overseas has happened constantly That's the best parties

Yeah, go ahead party in my house I'm not there though I would be very curious just to people watch. To be a fly on the wall at Mar-a-Lago would be insane. Yeah. You should have you take my ticket. I'll see if a ticket master can transfer it over. Yeah, you can get it from ticket master and then send it to my phone.

I will. I will. I will. But you'll have to go with this person. Okay. She a baddie? Yeah, I think she's very attractive. I like that.

Mall knows her, though. Oh, shit. Damn. I mean, she don't want me to go. You would never fucking under Rory friends? Define friends. It's a good point. His friend, like his own girls.

Associates. Oh, associates? The ones he haven't clapped. Oh, yeah. I knocked those right down. Yeah. It was like, if he didn't hit? Is she cute?

Why not? Okay. Yeah. I keep a good circle of women that have really good hearts and intentions. That's why you would because of the personality. Yeah. The great women. I love great women.

That's a good. That's a compliment to you. It means you keep baddies around me. Yeah, why not? Well, I think they have better character and they're funny and can bring a lot to conversation. And they look good. You put that in there, too.

All of those things, yes. Ma has probably clapped a few of my friends in 2024. I just didn't know about it. No. Because I was inside the whole year. I did not clap any of your friends in 24. Yo, I know it's been a lot of shit going on this year, but why would you make that-

Associates, I feel like you probably have? No. Yeah, I know. Too many money bag evidence that I've seen, like, I don't even know that girl. Yeah, but that don't mean I clap because she came across my algorithm. Yeah. That means I hit?

Maybe. I don't think Maher puts money bags under the women that he's actually sleeping with. I think he does that to throw us off. No, this is someone that. Put it under everyone. Now, some of them, some of them, we've had some nights together. But not some Mar-a-Lago nights. But that's not me marking my territory not like that.

Like, that's not that. I mean, it's beautiful women. Somebody got to, you know. I've gotten money bags before. So I know it's not that. Yeah. I'm not that guy. You know that.

I'm not the thirsty guy that's like trying to be in everybody's face. I'm not that guy. But we've known his strategy at this point. He puts them under everyone's picture, so it doesn't look like that. We don't think he smashed Mizzy. Like, who is that? Rapper, never mind. Oh.

Oh. Anyways, we did get some good music right before the end of the year, which I didn't expect because I thought everyone was just going to be quiet. Because everything shuts down. And shout to Siza for even getting mixes. added to DSPs during Christmas time. Love scissors project. Jack Harlow put out, I wouldn't call it a freestyle per se, but it's a great record.

Can we get the actual name of that? It's called Tranquility. Tranquility with a visual. It's like 230. I think Jack is rapping on it. I thought it was a cool way to close out the year to say that, you know, I have music coming at this point. Yeah. Tackled a few things that I saw the timeline in their feelings about, which is going to happen.

he brought up a credibility line and saying, I don't really care who gives me credibility. I'm feeling me. That ruffled the real hip-hop Twitter, which they don't get ruffled as much as they used to. They couldn't wait to tear up Jack Harlow's white ass after that. We're the only ones that could give you credibility, Jack. So Jack feels like he doesn't get mentioned enough.

Yeah, and he said he doesn't get enough respect. He's at a point in his career where he does not care anymore about who is giving him any credibility. Oh, that means he cares. Oh, 100%. When they get to that, I don't even care no more. You know, I just, it's from the heart. The art is from the heart. It's like, nigga, cut it out.

You care. If we ain't got you on our list, if we ain't got you in our conversations, you definitely care about that. We ain't going to act like you don't care. Every artist, every creator wants to be recognized for their art, wants to be recognized for how dope they are. Now, I can understand that not being all you care about, but you care about that.

I think Jack probably got more of the quote-unquote hip-unquote hip-hip-up credibility before his run with Come Home, The Kids Miss You When he had to fucking huge records and the Drake feature It was quiet in 2024 for him And I think in a good way I think him taking a break Especially with everything that was going on for the year This is the best strategy

Jackman 2020 was good He got back to soul beats and just rapping But that just felt like a Hey I know I was a pop star For all of 2022 I could still rap He did it for the people that would give him credibility but I feel like it went kind of under the radar compared to what had happened a year before

which can put you in an odd place with Jack Manney said he didn't really want to do the come home, the kids miss you huge records anymore I just want to rap but that didn't go the best way because you were a superstar at that point I think this is one of those

I'm kind of confused but in a good way of where my career wants to go well this is you know artists tend to do this a lot where they have success and then they put out another project that was okay, didn't have the success as the previous project. And I don't know, do we count,

I mean, Jackman was an album. It's 13 records, 31 minutes. That's an album. That's an album. But coming off what he had done a few months prior, it felt like a, hey, this is also from more of my core fan base. There was no rollout, there was no single. There was still an album, though.

True. Still an album. Still, still in his discography. So I think sometimes, you know, artists get in their zone where they start speaking to, to, you know, what they're reading online. Like people saying, oh, that last effort was a little lackluster. It wasn't that hard.

And then now you give us a freestyle kind of addressing those, you know, conversations and things that you're seeing people say. For me personally, though, with Jack Harlow, I'm still a little indifferent about him, though. Like, I like Jack Harlow, but I'm not sure if I'm... Soul? Like, I like Jack Harlow. I'm not sure if I would go to a Jack Harlow. Jack Harlow's show.

I tried. They wouldn't let me in. Well, yeah, you can't go to it. It was on my way. But it's like, I recognize the talent. I think he has some good records. I think he has some good bars. And anytime I see, like, you know, him in interviews speaking, he seems like a pretty cool guy.

Yeah. But it's something. It's just, it's something. I don't know if it's because I don't know enough of his story, like his life, his it's something that I can't connect with with Jack Hollow, but I recognize the talent that is there. Well, he kind of had the catch-22 of success. Like, even Sweet Action, that's what they all say.

That was more of like the Jack mixtape when he was fully being guided by drama, even more on the mixtape side. He was doing sway freestyles. Like, he definitely shifted into what would be more of a Drake Lane once he caught that first single. And then his identity shifted. Because Jack was a rapper for someone like me to listen to prior to come home, the kids miss you.

And then his whole fan base shifted to like younger girls. So he didn't really have an identity during that album and then tried to come out of that back to his original identity. And now all the younger kids are confused on who the fuck he is. And even with, what was the single? Love It on Me. came out at the end of 2023. I thought it was great and it was a good follow-up, like, oh, Jack's back on radio hit records,

thought it was great. But wasn't that a sample? Yeah, but I mean, so was his, so was Nailtec and the other record. Yeah, so that's what- First class and Nail-Tek are both. That's so, I think, so that can, that can hinder an artist.

Like when your, quote-unquote, biggest records are samples and... Those kids didn't know those samples, though. I mean, but, It's, they know it. They may not know it, but they, they heard that melody. No, it works because that melody has checked out for 20 years, and it's, we know it works because we've seen it work.

Okay. These young kids would say that's Jack Harlow fully. They wouldn't even go down the rabbit hole of what those samples would be. Hmm. So I just think he's kind of has, and this outside looking in, I don't know, even my talks with drama, Lake Cannon, nothing to do with how I view this. I think he's having an identity crisis and was talking about it in. in this freestyle, which I think is great.

I love when artists do that type of shit. And even taking accountability at the end and saying, I don't think I've even made great shit yet. He sounds confused about how he views his own career. Like, yeah, I was the number one artist in 2023. Did every fucking tour sold everything? I don't really know who the fuck I am at this point. What does it look like in 2025

after having an album like, come home, the kids miss you, and then Jackman right after that? Those are two completely different artists. and that's where you get your perspective of, I don't really know what the fuck this guy is. But that's why even a freestyle video though. You're going from different fan bases to different fan bases, and only a few artists have been super successful in doing that.

And that's been artists like Drake, it's artists like Rihanna. They have been able to go from different fan base to different fan base and grab everyone. That's tough for someone that just flat out wraps. And that's Jack. Even the tranquility of the video he shot. By myself.

gloomy, rainy out, walking through the city. Nobody knows me. I don't even know myself. Mm, you're producing. That type of, you know. You gave Lake the treatment? I mean. You shot that on the iPhone?

But it's like, I mean, Jack, he got movies, right? Yeah, he did the white man can jump. And he did, he's a star. What's the one with a guy with Matt Damon? He got killed pretty quick, but he was great. Yeah, I mean, I think that Jack Harlow has been, you know, he's been fortunate enough to get opportunities. that place him in a certain star caliber.

When you start to get movies, lead roles in movies and things like that, you know, that's them propping you up like your star, and we're going to get you there. But now you put out a freestyle speaking to, you know, what he's speaking to, and then just the aesthetic of it alone, no crew, no homies,

is just me walking around the city, raining, getting my thoughts together. Maybe I'm depressed. Maybe I took a shower today. Maybe I didn't. That's not really. You know, I know that aesthetic. I know that aesthetics.

I know when rappers get that. I might have show it. I might not have showered aesthetic. I know that aesthetic. There was a bit of a walk of shame. This was my outfit last night from a meatpacking club. Yeah. And I caught a lick with a chick that has some money.

And now I'm leaving in the morning. I got to stop sleeping with girls just for sexes. And I feel empty. Once she gets in her Uber and leave, it's like, and I'm looking at my ceiling. Like, what was that for? You know, he giving that. What was that for? Yeah.

Yeah, what was that for? Like, I don't even know that girl. After that morning piss and then you look in her mirror, like, what's wrong with you? Yeah, like, why did, what time is it? You don't even know what you had. Like again? You do this again? You said this was the last time and the last time?

He got that aesthetic right now. Which makes sense, though, with the years he's had. I'm sure that was a crazy 180 in his life from 2022 to 2023. Yeah. Came the biggest rapper in the world. Yeah. Some could argue. So was he ready for it?

Probably not. That's honest? Probably not just because he was making good music but not music that appeared like you were trying your best to catch one. Like nail tech and all that, I do like because it sounds like Jack probably would have just made that record

and it happened to catch. That's why I do respect it. I don't think unless you're sitting there like with the mind state of I have to catch one, you're ready for a complete 180 in your life. From sway freestyles to now I am the biggest rapper. This is arena shit. I'm selling out the Barclays. within one year

I wouldn't know what that feels like but I could imagine it's an insane 180 and Jack to me isn't really that type of guy why you say he comes across kind of as like a down-to-earth regular guy I believe that

so that was probably very odd I believe it too it's just something about Jack Haller that I can't the label he brought up Julie Greenwall which I don't even think works

at Atlantic anymore which I thought was odd I was like did he record this before Lucian's son took over I don't know anyone's deal so don't quote me everyone asking where's this shit at

and then you deliver something like loving it which is in that vein I'm glad he just chilled for a second because if he stayed with that it's like all right this is going to be nail tech first class kid for the rest of his life if he keeps doing these type of records

yeah I'm glad he took damn near the whole year off I loved the record he did with Dave they were both wrapping their asses off like I think Jack has actually made smart moves since the Jackman album I'm excited to see

what happens, but I'm with you too. A lot of stuff doesn't connect because I feel like it's probably for younger kids. But that's not a bad thing. It's just I'm old as fuck. Well, we fuck with Jack Harlow and, you know, we want to see him do great things because I do think he's talented.

It's just something that I can't connect to Jack yet. I'm going to give you one last opportunity before the year's up to shit on Kendrick Lamar. I don't want to. I'm fucking with you. Just how could we close the year? Did you hear Tyler's freestyle over Hay now put a visual out too?

Yeah. I absolutely loved it, but, you know, I'm a Tyler Dickrider, according to you guys. Anytime you support somebody, you, you dig ride. I enjoyed a Beyonce show on Christmas. Yeah. I thought it was a missed opportunity for the real one. This is one of those remixes like, damn, that would have been on GNX? Yeah.

That verse is fucking, that took that song to a whole other level. I wish that was, like, on the album. And you can, you can replace shit. Like, there's no more rules. Yeah. Cizzas uploading different mixes, I love it. If there's a better version of this song and you could shift it out, bet. Let's fucking do it.

If you refresh Vultures right now, one and two, I'm sure there's 10 new songs. Absolutely. I was listening to that shit. 530 is one of my favorite new Kanye records. It's a whole new song. Like, what the fuck? You finish the second verse? Yeah.

Make the official one with Tyler. Just swap it out. There's no rules anymore with the streaming shit. Nope. Yeah, there'll be a few people on Twitter saying, that's not hip-hop. You can't do that. The rules are different. We're in a different era.

Why can't the official version now of an incredible, credible verse that takes a record to a whole other level that's not on GNX, like that type of feel, make it official. Give Tyler 25% pub and put it up on fucking streaming. Nah, because then it goes against the whole portrait that Kendrick was painting. Tyler's from the West Coast. But that's saying you got to listen to the album in reverse. Did you see that thing piece on?

I did, yes. Oh, my God. That's a classic one. You got to listen to it in reverse. But Dan was in reverse. Not only do you got to listen to it in reverse. You got to be driving in reverse. You got to be driving in reverse.

Why? Listen. But wouldn't that offset the reverse? Because that's like a double negative. I hate so. You have to go, you have to do K turns counterclockwise. You got to drive like sunny in a Bronx tail and listen to GNX from in reverse. And then that's how you're going to really get the full picture of what Kendrick was trying to give it.

I actually didn't see those think pieces. I know Dam was meant to be in reverse, which I thought was really cool. Is that what they're saying? That's what I'm seeing. They're saying, nah. Is it better? You think I listened to it in reverse? Look at me in my eyes and tell me that you think that I listen to Kendrick's album in reverse.

Do they mean like in reverse or do they mean like the last song first? Yeah, I think that's what they mean. Okay. Yeah, start at the last song and go to the... I can see that. Wacked out Murals could be a cool outro and Gloria could be a good intro. Yeah, I can see that. I'm not saying I don't see it.

I'm just saying I just laugh at when I see those think pieces on Twitter. And then the people that chime in like, duh, y'all didn't even see the teaser on YouTube. I'm like, all right, man. I just want to listen to music. But don't do that. That's always been a music thing. even when, I don't know, was it the Pink Floyd records that you would have to go in reverse and like, that's Led Zeppelin was doing demonic shit.

When you listen to Tupac song slow, it says Shug shot me. I know, I get it. I get it. I was there. I was in that era. I did that as a kid multiple times, even slowed it down on my little boombox thing. He did not say. He didn't say Shug Shobby.

I tried to convince myself he said it and still was like, he's not saying that. I was even lying to my friends like, nah, he's saying that shit. And in my head, he's not saying that shit. that it's okay to just listen to the music and just relax man god damn holy stink people everybody thinking god just turn to think everybody thinking yeah just shut the fuck up there's nothing wrong with think pieces and people that are thinking i think that's important it's when people wouldn't have thought about this if it wasn't popular yeah like you don't need a think piece if you wouldn't have thought about this to begin with yeah man it is what it is man but shout out to everybody man

yeah 224 was a great year a lot of fun shit was terrible bro what is you talking about No, 2024 was lit, man. I hated this year. Why you hated it, Baby, Dee? A lot of reasons I hated this. I'm ready for this shit to end. Yeah. Here's the thing.

I've never been the hater of New Year, New Me. If that's what it takes to do a reset, cool, I like that. But you're saying... Baby Dee got the slogan for 25. New Dick. New Year and New Dick. Sitting and spitting.

Sitting and spitting. Sitting and fucking spitting. If the year is over tomorrow, it's still going to be like the same time. Like, it doesn't reset tomorrow. it's still going to just be a continuous what you're going through at the moment. Damn, like you just like,

yeah, you see the juju he threw on you for 25? Right, like. You know, why you wish that on her 25? The same energy from 24 you wish on. You can't change the world until you change yourself. That's what I'm changing myself. High elevation. That's what big toe puff.

I saw it on Notorious. Right before he dies, what he said right before. Yo, Notorious is really a good movie, though. It really is a good movie. It's definitely not bad. I like it. I just felt like it was too soon. Oh, man, we might have stumbled upon.

Like we were all We were just there Just happened We got to We started It didn't just happen It came out 20 years after that

happened What are you talking about There was just So many people alive To consult on it That weren't Like that's why it felt weird Like we could ask the people

Right now They're right here And they didn't So I don't know If it was like the real Well they asked Puff Puff like damn

They ran the movie Right That's why everyone That's why everyone that could tell the real story Was fucking upset They didn't even ask His mom

Yeah that was crazy That was wild Like, no, you know, C's is still a lot. C's right here. D. Rock, right there. Right here. Kim, right here, too. You have a whole main character, Kim.

You can ask her. She could be on set and tell you what happened. Crazy. Mary Jay, somebody. Yeah, Kim said she didn't like the way that they portray her. They just portray her like she was just like some side chick. And she said, I shouldn't like that. Here's the, I saw when Kim said all that.

I don't think they did a bad job with Kim. It didn't seem like she was a side chick. It felt like what the, we know to be the truth. He was fucking with both them. Seriously. He just happened to marry one of them. But he was very much committed to Kim at the time. Yeah.

I ain't a lot. We might have to go down a list of like best, worst, rap movies. Straight out of Compton or notorious? Straight out of Compton. Better movie? I don't even think it's cool. You, y'all. Straight out of Compton.

Y'all bugging. Straight out of Compton is a better movie. Y'all bugging. Yeah. Y'all are bugging. Can you explain why you think that? If you listen to this right in the comments, you bugging. Nah, bro, no.

And I'm not even going to make this a Puff thing, but he made himself seem like fucking Morpheus in a Versace. You know what? He was... I'm gonna watch it. Because, like, you're saying that, but like my initial reaction is straight out of Compton,

but it's been a while since I've seen Notorious. Notorious is a good movie. No, it's a good movie. I like Nourke's ego from, like, watching it like Puff, really. Like, if you remove his ego from it, it is a very enjoyable. I really enjoyed it.

I enjoy straight out of Compton. Who played Puff? Derek Luke. That's why I didn't like that movie He did a good job as Puff Again, Notorious is good but it's not Straight out of confidence It was like his

It was the way he was saying shit It was like you ain't never talk like that That's what I said he thought he was morphious In a fucking Versaceous show I remember now are we thinking about it I'm like it was something about Notorious that I remember When I was watching like I don't like the way somebody was talking

We can't change the word So we change ourselves big Yeah I don't think it went like that Like I don't think that's how they got It didn't like it did I don't think it went like that is all I'm saying. How are you going to tell the person that was there that ain't how it went? I just don't think it went like that.

Like I got to. And I've watched, rest in peace to see Ann Clark Kent, I've watched all of their interviews about Big. They were there, grew up with Big. At one point, Puff never said to him, yo, my daddy was out here hustling these streets. So you got to stop now. Big was like, I never even thought of it that way, Puff. I'm a stop. He didn't listen to Puff at all.

He kept selling drugs in Virginia. And that's another thing. That didn't happen that way. I don't like those movies where they keep saying. each other's name when they're talking to each other. Like they're supposed to remind us that that's puff and that's big. I've never talked to Rory and was like, yo, yo, you know what I'm saying, Rory?

I mean, I guess I love that screenwriting. I don't know, maybe. You're supposed to establish. I hate, you know, I hate, we know that's supposed to be puff. We know this is supposed to be big. Stop saying each other's names when y'all talking to each other. I don't know. I just look at movies like that. You know what? I never really thought about that, but we don't really say each other. I'll say you guys's names, but I guess men don't really say

each other's names like that. I have never had a conversation with Rory and was like, yo, I ain't going to lie. You know, we got to do what we got to do, Rory. That's because we're not saying profound things like we got to change ourselves before who does that? Like I don't talk. I'm talking about your homie. Like a nigga you talk to every day.

You don't talk to him like that. Now, if it's somebody, you know, I guess later on in this episode, Elliot. I might say, yo da-da-da-da. You know what I'm saying, Elliot? I might do that because me and Elliot, we don't talk and we don't hang out like that. But if it's my man. Man, I'm with every day in the studio making music, traveling the world, performing. So I'm not having...

What do you call them? I just talk to him. Like, yo, yo, we got to, we got to do something else, man. I ain't going to lie. This shit going to cray. What we're going to do, man? I don't be like, yo, I ain't going to lie, though. I don't feel like, yo, Rory.

I think it's because Rory name, though. Damaris, I have never had a conversation with you. Damaris. Damaris. You say Baby D. You call me Baby D a lot. It's just Roy. Roy got that name.

Don't nobody want to say that. Pease, do I say your name when I talk to you? Yeah. He just did. No, I'm directing the question to you. But I'm just saying, do I? Like, if it's just you two in the studio, he's not saying Peage at the end of every sentence.

Yeah. I don't, I just don't, I don't, I don't, that's not a natural thing in conversation. I mean, I don't know. That's maybe screenplay shit that we're not aware of to, for people's attention spans and, like, characters. I don't know. I can just be nitpicking.

But it was, it was something about Notorious when it came out and I remember watching like maybe two or three times and it was something that I just was like I can't I just can't get into the movie like that because something was pissing me off so I got to watch it again and I'm going to remember exactly what it was but my knee jerk response to notorious or straight out of Compton it's straight out of Compton I just thought it was funny everyone aged and notorious except for C's he was always a 12 year old child the entire movie everybody grew up C's character same actor the entire time the funny thing the funny she does That character is a grommet.

Like that actor's a grown-at. He played young 50 and get Richard D. He's a grown-up. Great actor. Gromit. Like they had 12-year-old C's, because accurate, they got in a car accident when Big broke his leg. Yeah.

They got 12-year-old Cs like under. Now you know why they got an accident. He couldn't see over the wheel. He couldn't see over the wheel. And if it's accurate the way after a pot got shot and Big tried to call him and puff, grab the phone and was like, don't do it, Big. My man's facing a rape charge.

You can't even call him. See? And Big was like, damn, Puff. I never even thought about that. See? What would that have to do anything? Baby, I got to go watch this movie. That's not what he said, though.

He said, chill. He got that rape case. You know, he's not thinking right. So let me call my man's and tell him he is bugging. You have inaccurate information. I did not set you up. And I'm also not going to tell you who set you up because I got nothing to do with this shit. And I want to stay far the fuck away from it.

I'm going to watch it again. It's a great movie. I'm going to watch it again. They shouldn't have cut out that other nude scene with a little Kim when she was in the pool. Go look at this. the leader scenes. Crazy. You calm your loins.

Nah. So with you. I'm glad you got that rolling powering and kept giving us some content. Yeah, I'm about to say. Because her scenes were crazy. Uh, Tasha. His loins is on fire, ain't they? What do you call them?

Hot crotch? Firecrotch. Fire crotch. Hot crotch is way funnier. Hot crotch is hilarious. I might have to start a brand called Hot. I'm going to sell crop pots and call it that. Now you sound like M.

Hot Crotch is amazing. It's an awfully hot part. That's an awfully hot crotch, not. But yes, straight out of Compton is a better fucking movie. I think so. I'm going to watch Notorious again for you. See, Dan, I want to say. Tori's better than All Eyes on Me.

Yeah, look at you. See? See? There's not very many rap movies to begin with. That's why I don't even want to save this for like a Patreon. What? About actual real rap. Shit, what is there? All Eyes on Me.

He wasn't a real rapper. That was like loosely based off Eminem's Life Story, which he said it wasn't. So I don't think like eight mile counts. Give Richard I trying the same way. He said that wasn't really his life. All right. So we got to just make it best rap movies. Okay, but I mean, people were rapping in juice.

Is it a rap movie? Park is in it. He didn't rap. He didn't rap. He just killed his friends. Poetic Justice too. Queen Latifah's in it. She didn't rap, though.

Some rap is in there, though. Now, but juice ain't a rap. That's racist. You just think any black movies is a rap movie. Stop watching Bill O'Reilly. Juice is not a rap movie. Y'all might have to open it up to just like biopics, period. Iopics.

Bio. And this could sound terrible. What besides all eyes on me? Notorious, straight out of Compton. Am I missing another one? A rap one? No, not that I can think of. Get Richard Dodds Ryan?

No, I mean, it's loosely, that wasn't, come on. He performed, he performed one of his real singles at the end of the movie. That's because it was on the sound. The whole movie is him rapping things that ended up on the soundtrack. He's just a good businessman. Like when it rains at pores when he's in prison, that was on the album. Yeah, but that's what I'm saying. So that's a rap movie.

He never killed Prime in a hallway before he stepped on Pelham Bay stage to perform. Terrence Howard didn't just casually take out a gun and kill Supreme. I understand that. But what I'm saying is that was loosely based on a real rapist. Not his dad. A real rapper's like life. He was from the Bronx. I don't know, man.

I think we could do it, though. You think his real name was Young Caesar? No, no. In fact, I know it wasn't. I think Get Rich is a classic movie, but I wouldn't call that the 50 cent story, nor would I call it 8 Mile the M&M story. But how could you not call it the 50-cent story when he got shot literally in his face was rapping with a, his voice was different.

That's literally what happened to 50. I think he pulled certain things from his life. Of course he did. But just because he got shot. plenty of people get shot doesn't make it the 50 cent story see you're doing this thing that you like to do yes plenty of people get shot that's a fact nobody's saying because you get shot it makes it the 50 cent

nobody from his internal crew fucking bangham smurf didn't shoot him like it's a whole different storyline his man shot him that betrayed him and that whole thing this is where loosely based comes in that roary I just think it's completely it's not it's not a documentary it's loosely based I think get rich a doctorine is definitely a

50 his life story loosely but let's have that draft though I don't there's nothing to draft though best rap movies we just named there's only three seven of them that they had there's more than that man y'all tripping think of what name them

there's more I mean we could sit down and do a draft though I think we could I think that's why I said doing a biopic draft will be better oh wait there's a Roxanne Roxanne which was fire on Netflix So fucking good. Incredible. That might be the, that would rival straight out of confidence to me.

The only one. But other than that, that's the only ones that are here. I'm trying to go through. Oh, Tupac Resurrection, but that was just a great documentary. That was a documentary. Loved it. Do we count Michelet's movie? Crush Groove?

Y'all niggas ain't, that ain't a movie? No, crush grooves. Yeah, that counts. I've never even heard of that. You never saw Crush. Oh, shit. I forgot you were so young. Oh, my God.

Please share with the people what it is. You got to watch Crush Groove. Crush Groove is an 80s film written by Ralph, you got it, and directed by Michael Schultz. Ironic. It's Blair Underwood as a young Russell Simmons in the early days of Def Jam. Russell Simmons was the film's co-producer and story consultant. I'm sure he left out a lot of things because he was the consultant, and we didn't get an accurate story. What was that show that they canceled on VH1 that was amazing?

The breaks? That sounds familiar, yeah. That was loosely based off Russell and the Def Jam shit. They even had a young Nause. That show was amazing. I wish they kept up with that. Crush Groove, Baby Dee. Watch Crush Groove.

Okay. I'm going to have to check it out. I'm sure my dad knows what it is, so maybe I'll make him watch it with me. You got to watch Crush Groove. You got to watch the disorderlies with the fat boys. Trying to think of another 80s breaking. Got to watch Breaking.

Yeah, start there. That's a good three-pack. I mean, outside of rap or stuff, the new edition story was great, the TLC movie was great, the ALEA movie was fucking buns. They've done it for outside of rap. Yeah. ATL apparently is one. The Jackson's The American Dream might be the best one, not all of them. Yeah, that was a great, great series.

I might watch that every year. They come out. Every year it's on V-A-21, I might watch that. I haven't seen it in a while. I have to go back and watch it. I never knew that it was a made-for-TV series because when I was watching it, watching it, they would play it like straight through. So I always just thought it was a really long movie when I was growing up.

Yeah, no, it aired on VH1, I think, when they first came out. You know what would be the craziest series ever? It could not be a movie whatsoever. Just based off everything BG has copped to and who Birdman became, the cash money story would be the greatest rap TV series if done right. That story would be insane. The first season would just fucking be Birdman and BG doing insane things that are already on record, so we're not snitching.

He cops like 40 bodies. I don't think you'd get to Lowell Wayne so season three. Drake would be in season 14. Is state property a rap movie? They're up there. They're my personal. Okay.

But that really wasn't about them. I don't think Jay and Dame happened to be robbing the same house at the same time. It was like, yo, you take upstairs, I'll take downstairs. That's not out of that. Rory always rewrite in a script. That's what happened.

That's not what happened. That's not what happened. happened to state property that was paper soldier oh my best what you talk about and they was going to rob the studio he opened the door j was in there recorded and they just closed the door like no we're not robbing that's too i don't think tauta ever said beans suck my dick like you know that's hilarious those are great movies but i wouldn't consider them rap movies just great you know hood films but uh while we're on hot boys before we get to voicemails and we have an amazing conversation with elliott wilson after this as well i you know Travis hunter man

I didn't really care about that girlfriend shit None of my fucking business. I don't care. Love is love, Rev Run, do whatever the fuck you want to do. And this is going to sound like hate, but I have to be honest, why are you signing to Young Money

Sports Agency? Is that real? Wife, whoever the fuck you want a wife, just whatever, man. But is that real? Deal with what comes with it. Is that real? Yeah.

What is Young Money Sports Agency? What is that? I had to look, I had to find the website. And before everyone starts and clips this, whatever. Wayne, we absolutely love. Legend in his own right,

done amazing things, cool, whatever. What the fuck is Young Money APPA Sports? I can't even find, I have the About section, which has all like their staff. I don't see who is signed to them. I did not know this existed, but again, I may be out of the loop. Lamar Jackson may be signed to them,

and I just didn't know. I've just yet to see a Young Money chain in. I've never heard of this agency. I've never heard of it either. And I mean, listen, no slight to Wayne. He might be, you know, he might have a lot of the right people. Could be amazing.

over there that's ready to do great things for Travis Hunter. But I just, you know, on one hand it's, okay, cool. Travis Hunter, you know, want to keep it, keep business black and, you know, sign with, you know, black CEOs. Okay, cool. Love it. I think there's some, maybe a few more reputable black agents in the, that he could have went with first. I mean, Rich Paul's out there somewhere. Yeah, who's, who's.

I think he's a black man. And a pretty good fucking agent. A pretty good agent. Established in 2017 is when it happened. I feel like Wayne has even done enough first take interviews. And I think Wayne talks about sports more than he does hip hop. Oh, for sure. Maybe I missed the interview of when he was like,

yo, I have a sports agency as well. Yeah. Who is Travis? Because I don't, you know, I've seen all the things about. Who's guiding the young man? Yeah, like, who's in his corner? Who's his, like, his day-to-day, you know, consigliere. I mean, we haven't really commented on a lot of this because I feel like that's been piling on and just another topic.

I don't care about the girlfriend shit. Yeah, whatever. This is where I was like, all right, who is in your corner, young man? Yeah, that's my. And, you know, to have a coach like Dionne's saying there's somebody who did it at the highest level, when you talk about just superstar, flash, you know, bright lights, women, cars, jewelry, like, you know, It don't get much, much better than prime time when it comes to that. I just feel like maybe he should lean on his coach a little more when it comes to like off-the-field

personal life shit. I mean, you got Dion Sanders in your locker room at your disposal every day to just talk about life after college and what to expect being a high-profile player going into the NFL. It don't get much better than Dion Sanders. So, you know, you see Travis going through things with his good. girl, you know, I'm a hope that maybe he spoke to Coach Sanders about that and how to navigate through those type of things, relationships with women. And even on the business side of signing with a young money, again, you know, maybe he's a big Wayne fan. But I just feel like with

Dion Sanders right there, I feel like Dionne would have been like, son, you sure that's where you want to? And again, who's to say that the major regular agencies are great? I don't know, Drew Rosenhouse and all that shit. That could be all. too for a young athlete as well. But I have some questions on Young Money, APAA sports. I just have never heard bad things about clutch sports

and what Rich is over there doing. I've only heard great things is you know, from what I see when I was looking at, Rich has got a lot of his players overpaid. You know what I mean? It's like good players, but it's like Rich got him. How much? Deion guiding you outside of just fuck sports knowledge. Deon

understands marketing, branding, what it's like to be in the spot more than probably any athlete that you can name outside of a few. It is a bit odd where decisions have been made. Where's Travis Hunter from originally? That's a good question. I'm not sure. Like, I can't see Dion letting his son sign something like that.

I can promise you, Dion. Chicoor won't be signing with Young Money APAA. He's from West Palm Beach, Florida. He moved to Georgia in the eighth grade. West Palm Beach, Florida, Wayne, Florida. Same at Mar-a-Lago tomorrow. Okay. Listen, I wish him the best, man.

He's a talented player. He seems to be a good kid. You know, hopefully he has his off-the-field, you know, things in order and has the right people around him because, you know, it can go left really fast. But good luck to him, man. This might end up being great. He might be the player that, you know, turns Young Money APAA into a powerhouse, you know. You never know, but I just think going into it, the Hizman trophy winner, I think you kind of want to, you know, align with stronger players as far as business. So get a Wayne feature.

Whatever that would do for him at this point. I don't know. Never know. You know. Good luck to him, man. He's having a rough. Wayne knows Robert Kraft. Patriots will probably get the first.

Has anybody had a rougher Hizman trophy year than Travis Hunter, like off the field? I'm pretty sure we, I mean, shit. I mean, Reggie got his taken away, but that was years later. Years later. And then got it back. Yeah, I don't know. I'm sure there's somebody that we don't know about that probably awful one. Maurice Claret won Hizman, right?

He had a crazy fucking year. Yeah, that was a crazy. He ended up having a crazy time. That was a fucking doozy when he went through. Yeah. When it comes to Travis Hunter's girlfriend situation, did you guys ever watch the video that she released talking about everything? like Travis told me to come out here and talk about this.

I would never click on that. You know that. I remember seeing it and seeing the length of the video and said that's nice prayers for everyone involved. So I went to watch it, but I had it on two times two X-B because I'm not listening to somebody talk like that. But from what it seems like what she was saying was that there were clips of her being taken out of context and she was being bullied on the internet for clips of her being taken

out of context. People are like, oh, they're saying I'm pouting when he won this or I'm pouting when he's hugging cheerleaders and that's not true. Like this is what actually happened. These, this is what was going on. I'm pretty sure that's part of it. I'm pretty sure some of that shit was taken out of contact.

Yeah, for sure. But it's just like once the internet finds out that you're the person to shit on, especially if you're a girl. Oh, they pile on. Yeah, they're going to pile on. Yeah. Yeah. Well, because, so the reason why she said that is because everybody was on her ass because

and I'm not sticking up for her. But I just want the full story. Everybody was on her ass because she has said he wasn't originally her type. and then she ended up dating him anyways. So she was like she came on there. She said, well, he wasn't originally my type because when he originally slid in my DMs, he had a girlfriend and cheaters aren't my type.

Oh, she gave you the dignity, pride, honor. She was like, so then when he got single, he doubled back or something like that. And then she ended up in a relationship. He doubled back. He gave him another chance. I mean, it's hypocritical because we're on a podcast and we always talk about a bunch of nonsense sometimes

that we don't care about, but why do y'all care that much about? his girlfriend. Yeah. People always worried about the money of men that they are not sleeping with. Men be worried about other men money so much. So it confuses me. Okay.

To what Pete is saying that people are concerned about his finances and that she's just there to take his money, that's a slow newsday in the NFL, NBA, MLB, NHL, any Wall Street. And like, that's a slow fucking newsday to me that somebody y'all deem as loose is going to take money. And I don't know if that goes loose. I'm saying how y'all is. demon that that girl is taking advantage of somebody that has potential to be rich.

Whoa. Whoa. If he likes a girl, he likes a girl. I mean, it may bite him in the ass later on when it starts affecting his play because she could be a fucking nightmare. But there's plenty of women that aren't gold diggers that could do the same fucking thing in your household. Oh, he's going to bite him in his ass.

But see, I don't think that. I don't know. I think her, and I don't know this to be true because I haven't been following it. I think a girl that wants more attention than money is way more dangerous. dangerous in that situation, then a girl that just wants your finances and maybe we'll take 50% of your contract in 10 years. If she wants to be a star, that's an issue. You're fucked at that point. If this chick wants to be in the locker room, wants to be on camera, everything she does is now going to be attached to you because she wants to be on camera non-fucking stop and all she is

just some college student that happened to be in the same dorm as you and fuck. That's an issue to me. They're all going to get their money taken and divorce at some point. That's America. It's the American way. Damn, God. The way y'all look at love is just dark and dreary. No, I just think that it's, you know, we got to look at things for what they are, especially when these young men are, you know, potential hundreds of millions of dollars players walking around. And, you know, a girl sees him, doesn't know who he is at first.

And then somebody puts him on like, you know, he's like the top player in the nation. It's like, oh, he's cute all of a sudden. It's like, okay, cool. So if shit starts to happen and people start to notice that, they call it out cool I'm not saying that this girl is around for money grabbing I don't know about it I don't All I'm saying is to Roy saying if it is

It's not the first time Who cares Like we get it yeah That's what's gonna happen This kid has potential to make a shit ton of money Women are gonna throw themselves at him Why is this news Like because we're seeing it from the college level happening

Like okay If she's gonna take him for his money And you know he's a sucker she's gonna lick him Simple. And I mean, there could have been fair assessments of her character and who she is, but I'm seeing head, oh shit, this girl was in a music video three years ago. You mean somebody that's going to the league wiped a video girl? It's stupid.

Top of the news list. It shit is stupid, man. Oh, yeah, she was in a SoundCloud rapper fucking video. Honestly, this is what's supposed to happen. I did see that one clip where she said, he used to drive me to parties and wait outside. he seems like the guy that would do that. He gives me those vibes. I know a few dudes that do that.

And I just be like, yo, if you happy, man, if you want to sit out here and listen to a podcast while you're going to be like, yo, you bugging. I'm like, who am I to be like, yo, you bug. I'm like, that's a good boyfriend though. Like, if you don't want to come with me. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. If you don't want to come with me,

but you want me to be safe, I'm going to have fun. You think it's a good boyfriend that's going to drop you off to a party, let you go in there, dance with a bunch of dudes. And he's sitting in a box. But who says that she's dancing with a bunch of dudes. Because that's what they do when they go to parties, baby, Dee. Ma, that's not always true. Young girls are not dancing at parties?

How young was she? She's not 23. She's not 22. They were playing Jenga. But girls don't, you do know that, especially her era. Girls don't really dance with dudes anymore. Like, it ain't like your time. Her era?

They used to get to it. This girl was like 21 years old. I know. She's sitting at a party with a phone. Like, I'm here. She might dance with her friends. Two years ago at a college party? Yeah.

I'm telling you they don't dance with men at college parties anymore. That was a music video For a hit record That was a music video That ain't no Why you keep saying music video Like that was off GNX or something That was that nigga

Hey now Who's the artist It was a music Who is the artist? Well he did some corny shit And put out merch with the image Oh he Which to me was lame shit

So go ahead music video right People do anything for money People will like they don't Nobody cares about being lame no more Because of money and attention Nobody cares about being lame This is fucked up for this new generation where I feel bad for them.

Their entire lives have been recorded no matter who the fuck they are. They could be the brokest person on earth. Their entire fucking life has been on a phone. The women we may revere that are the wives of athletes that are quiet and put together this and that. We don't know what the fuck they was doing because there was not a camera around at all times.

These poor girls, yeah, she was probably 18, and a guy she was seeing was like, yo, be in my music video. You know me fucking women on earth have done that? that that you wouldn't know, like just because the song never hit. That's fucked up. Like I feel for this girl, now her whole life because it was on camera, she's going to be judged different than another NFL wife that probably did some wilder shit. We just don't know about it. Right. Yeah. It's fucked up for these kids. I was in a music video in college. Every, every, I mean, he was rapping, right? No. Who's the artist?

He almost invited you to the Frank Stan. Um, this is this rapper, but he's cool now. He's like in the, I think he's like in the school system. But he, um, we had a music video. I was like, drunk in it, like, in the college, like, the closet. Like, they had me up, like, they put me, like, up at the top of the closet shelf. It was called Welcome to My Dorm Party. It was a playoff of Welcome to My House Party. Okay. And they told you, yo.

How did you get up in the cubby? They lifted me up there. I used to weigh, like, 115 pounds. And then you just lay down where you were asleep? Yeah, with a cup of my hand. I like it. I'm so glad you got away from that lifestyle. That was my idea, though, actually.

I've been a producer, yo. That was my idea. That was your idea? They put me up there, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. You know, be in the closet. Treat me like a hat. Put me on the top show. Put me on the top show for the closet. Treat me like a hat. Treat me like a hat. This is my moment.

I could be a hat. Look. What? So, yeah. Now, I feel like for the rest of your life, you should be judged for that moment for every decision that you ever make. Any man that you go near, they should bring that up to shame you. They're going to blame you.

This podcast. Every decision. I'll never get married because of this podcast. That's not true. It's close. You're not. But you got new year, new... Would you date a female podcaster?

Sure. Yeah. Seriously, would you marry a female podcaster? Roy, shut the fuck up. No, you wouldn't. I would. Wait, why you say that? Why you say that?

You would not, bro. You would not. Why not? You would not sit up there and date a female podcast that. I was talking about sitting and spitting for the new year. You're not doing that. You're not doing that. Well, sitting and spitting on who?

Why do you think every podcast is about sitting and sitting and spitting on who, though? Like, she would have to be clear about if it's my girl. She would have to be clear about if now my girl's a female podcast. She's like, yo, New Year, new dick, then I'm going to have a problem there. But if she's saying like, yo, New Year, me and my man, I'm going to be sitting and spitting on him more. Oh, then we're in love.

Yeah, cool. But you can't just be yelling out New Year. You're not doing that. You can't be yelling at a New Year, New Dick, and we're in a relationship. If Sarah from the serial podcast, look different. If you're not going to pursue that girl, you're not going to do that. Why not? I would.

She liked to sit and spit. What time should get off? You say that like all these girls on Instagram on their story aren't revealing these things. Yeah, but it's different because they're not, they're not getting paid for that. They're selling pussy. Baby D selling hope. I didn't think of it that way. It's a difference. And closet space. And yeah, she's showing you, listen, this is how you compartmentalize. This is your closet design. Yo, sit in the, the Asian chick that says, does it mean anything to you? What's that that

series where she teaches you how to get everything out of your closet? It's fine. You guys aren't culture. Was that on Netflix? It should be by now. She asked if it's savory to your life. Like, that's the only thing she could say. And if you say yes or no, then it gets thrown out. I thought that was on Netflix. She showed you how to, like, put drunk women in your closet. No, she doesn't show you that.

She shows you how to, like, make space for it. Keep everything. I feel like that was on Netflix. Yeah. I have no idea who you guys on. Yeah, I feel like we talked about that. Like, when we was watching it when it came out. Who knows?

Yeah. I remember that. And I don't even know if we need to get to voice mails before we get to. Heidi up with Marie Condo? Maybe. I don't know. Was it Netflix? I feel like we definitely watched that.

Oh yeah, Netflix, yep. Watch tidying up. Yeah. Netflix. Did you guys watch anything over the holiday? I did have time finally to like watch some of the big juror number two I watched on Max, which was big. And then did you guys watch Carry On with Jason Baton?

No, I keep seeing it. Every time I'm on Netflix, I see it. I'm like, I want to watch it. How was it? It's really good. Highly, highly suggest it. But what's that Kevin Hart movie that we love where he turns into Jason Boren at the end? Well, Wesley Snipes?

Yeah, which is a great fucking movie. Oh my God, I forgot the name that. It just starts to get, like, a little bit too insane. Yeah, I don't know. Carry on is incredible, but at one point, you're going to be like, okay, we have now went from this could be a really cool storyline to now we're living in the make-believe. Kevin Hart killed them nigs at the end. True story. They stashed in dead bodies in TSA rooms.

I'm like, all right, man, there's not one camera in sight. Yeah, see, that's my shit gets just too unrealistic for me. Kevin Hart killed them niggas with two headshots. Two niggers. One hand. no look I think he even covered his eyes and went like this you made us watch this whole thing and this is how it ends

I had a crush on the the girl that died she was only in a few scenes but even dead even dead she was bad is crazy I finally watched it ends with us how was it? It was good it was really good it was good like knowing all the

when I went into it I had heard about the the things that were going on behind the scenes with Blake lively and her co-star and how they hated each other. She's suing him right now. I thought it was a director too. He was, her co-star and the director or the production company,

I think he owned it. Some nasty shit. Yeah, he was like making, being weird and stuff. And yeah, but the movie came out really good. Squid Game 2. Anyone started?

I'm on episode 3. No. Yeah? Yeah. Ever since I seen Mr. Beast do it, I'm like, like, when Mr. Beast did it was real. Like, you know what I'm saying?

I don't want to see the show no more. Mr. Beas did a real squid game? He did an, He cooked squid or like he did a squid game? No, he did an entire squid game and gave away money. Did people die? No, nobody died. Oh, it wasn't real.

I thought that's why they were trying to cancel him. But they killed, he killed it. He had the whole set, like everything. No, I got to see dead bodies. Speaking of Blake Lavey, I'm watching Gossip Girl. That's cute. X-O-X-X-O Gossip Girl. Do you like it?

So far, yeah. How about you watch Grey's Anatomy if you watch it Gossip Girl? I've watched so a Graze Anatomy. You saw it, but did you watch it from the beginning, like really watch it? I watched it up until I didn't, I didn't finish Grace Anatomy. I think I'll stop the second season before the last. There is no last season. It's still going?

It's still going. It's still going. It's on season 20. Oh, I thought it. Grace Anatomy is still going. So why did all the women cry like two years ago? I thought it was done, done. That was because one of the main characters died, I think.

George Clooney? I just went and did the Oceans movie. That was ER. Okay. No. Same thing. It's going into like season 21 right now, I think. Damn.

Grazie Anatomy is still on. Yeah, that's why you like, when it ended? I'm like, when the fuck that? Oh, I'm not going to finish that shit. It stops being good around season 16, 17, so just go up to there. Season 16 is at that point, it's like, all right, wrap this shit up, man. I love it. You got to watch it.

Watch it from the beginning. I'm going to finish Gossip Girl first. I like it. For the people that are not on Patreon, we have two sitcom TV show drafts. We split them up by race naturally. Of course. And I was thinking over the holiday break that we were completely wrong. I do feel like sitcoms need a live studio audience.

Like, I don't know if the office is a sitcom, bro. The office is a sitcom, dog. I was watching the office over the break. And I was like, this is just a hilarious comedy series. I feel like a sitcom in retrospect needs the studio audience. I think that's what makes it. But that's not fair because you have a set. There's only like three different fucking sets.

But that's not fair because if you're going to do that, then in liver color is a sitcom and you said it was sketch comedy that's a live audience but that's sketch like shepel show was live audience but that's a sketch show to me s&L has a live audience that's a sketch show to me all that but you're saying you feel like sitcoms need to have a live audience but that doesn't make or break it i'm not saying anything with a live studio like martha stewart had a live studio audience the view has a live studio audience i'm not saying that makes it a sitcom but i feel like a sitcom needs those three interchanging sets and a live studio audience in retrospect No way.

If you feel like, so. Subscribe to Patreon to hear our argument. So to curb your enthusiasm is not a sitcom? I don't think so. Get the fuck. You're crazy, bro. So you're saying that Abbott. This goes against everything I said on Patreon, which is two amazing episodes.

Abbott isn't a sitcom either. No. No, that's not. I think it's a sitcom? No. What the fuck? What are y'all talking about right now? You sound crazy.

Chris Rock show is not a sitcom? Yeah, you sound crazy. That's a sitcom. Friends sitcom. Seinfeld's sitcom. Chris Rock, everybody hates Chris. Just because. The original way that they did sitcoms with the live studio audience, it doesn't mean that that's only...

Bernie Maxwell is not a sitcom? Then that means there will never be another sitcom again just because they changed the way they did sitcoms. That's not true. But the Gerard Carmichael show, which more recent, that was a sitcom to me in the modern era. There was no live studio audience. It had a laugh track. It was not a live studio audience. Okay, well, I guess I'm saying more laugh track than anything.

I don't know, just my thoughts said with a break of we maybe had a lot of, we maybe had a completely wrong. Nah, man. You read a comment or two and now you feel like who said that in the comments? No, I honestly did not read a single comment about anything. Man, Kirby enthusiasm is a sitcom. I don't care what y'all talking about.

Everybody hates Chris as a sitcom. Everybody hates Chris is a sitcom. Everybody hates Chris is definitely a fucking sitcom. Y'all are tripping. I don't know, man. Y'all crazy as fuck. You've got mail. How do y'all make the difference? How do y'all know the difference between

a hole that's for you and a hole that you only fucking? Is it a little? the difference sexually in what she given you. I don't fully understand this question. Y'all both seem like some cool niggas. Like, y'all like,

you know, got to fly, whatever. He high as shit right now. It seemed like y'all kind of play in the same streets as well. Like, are y'all Eskimo brothers? I feel like I ain't ever heard y'all speak on that. That was, I'm rocking with John. So his first original

question, his first original question, what? How do you know what It was for you. It was a profound question if you get, if you peel back the layers, that was an onion question. Like if she, if she, like, if she, like, if she, like, she really doing like, you know, whole shit in the bedroom, how do you know that? How do you know the difference between a hoe that's just for fun or a hole that you should

take seriously? It's a hole for you. A hole for you. So if, so basically if she's a freak in the bedroom. Yeah. But how do you know she's just being freaky with you and not just out here freaking with everybody? Yeah.

Is that how you took it? How do you know which holes are worth? are worth ignoring the wholeness for it. Like, how do you know this whole is for you? That's how I took it. As when do you start ignoring that you know for a fact that this woman has been for the streets for a while, but you like this whole a lot? What are the deciding factors?

I don't know. That's a tough question to ask me because I feel like if I know a hole is for the streets, I'm not even entertaining her or even letting it get to a point where I feel like, no, she's my hoe. But what happens when he's talking about a hole and more, I think he's talking about like normal hoe. I think what you're thinking is like, what's a normal hoe. So I think he's talking about a woman with more than one body.

Yeah, like a girl that she's not, she's not innocent, right? But she's not fucking out here just fucking anybody or for the streets. Right. But she has, she's not a fucking version. Her number would make you uncomfortable, but it's not anything that's crazy. Okay. Yeah. And like, she's like, you like, damn, like I really like this girl, like that type shit.

Not like the, not the girl that got passed around by the homies. Like, not. Okay. I think that's what he's asking. Like, yo, like, how do I know that like this whole is for me? or she spent a lot of 2015 on vacation with no real sense of income no those are see that's but that was in 2015 it's 24th different holes we someone just normal regular whole like regular people holes y'all be experienced well first of all instagram has changed that aspect regular assholes are

in abiza right now with everybody yeah monday like it used to be it used to be the elite ones the elite ones have that's been ran through everyone's fine in the regular hose now it'd be chicks where I'm like 400 followers up there for 10 years how the fuck is you about there? I don't know how I don't know

I guess it ultimately comes down to if you're kicking it with a well that too but if you're kicking it with a girl and you know her history and you know you know however you know however you were introduced to her kind of got the car facts on her I think you just make your own

you know like if what you all right cool yeah I know she was bopping around but fuck it I like her as I've seen dudes do that but it's like you know you're like yeah I ain't go she cool though what can I say to that? She makes me happy

that be what who makes me happy it's subjective man if you cool and no matter what her history is and you know who dated her and all that have fun man it's very hard to find people that you actually like that's a very difficult thing

if she happens to have a past you know keep it pushing love is rare just don't ask questions is rare love and happiness are rare if you find somebody who makes you happy and that you click with don't be worried about what the fuck that happened 10 years ago

like that's you're wasting your time I mean it does it I mean you can't ignore what happened because you gotta look at what happened to kind of know you got to look where you've been and know where you're going right you got to kind of just make the you know have discernment

I think a lot of people don't have discernment have discernment. Like, yeah, she was out in the street. She was playing around, dated a few guys, you know, whatever, whatever, whatever. But if you're kicking her and you spend the time with her, that may be a part of her life that she's closed and she's done with it.

She want to really, like, be with one person to have a great time, fun, laugh, your laugh together. You know, if it's like that and you fall in love. Cool. I mean, not to get too deep for the end of the year, but sometimes you have to look in the mirror and say, what is a stream. I don't define what that is.

What's your definition of a ho is could be your own internal shit and she's not really a ho or she's a super ho and you're okay with that. You don't get to define what the definition of ho is just in your ego maniac fucking brain

you think because she slept with one person who happened to fucking know and had one summer where she went a little crazy you don't get to define what the cost of a stream is you're not Spotify

you don't define her past as being a ho if you like the girl you like the girl just take the exchange rate and keep it pushing if you like your album but the problem I have with that is when dudes get with a girl like that,

that has a history, has a past, and now they feel like, you know, this is my girl. And then they find out she out here still seeing other guys, and then they want to go to violence and harm the girl. But it's like, nigga, you knew what she was? There's a difference between a hoe and a cheater, and of course those lines can blend. But there's plenty, some of the quote-unquote biggest,

that would be deemed the biggest hoes that I know are typically the most loyal girlfriends. Best girlfriends. Like, they be in the streets when they single. But when it's time to be. to be in a relationship, they're my man, my man, my man, my man. Yeah, all right. Yeah.

That's her man. I'm not saying that ain't your man, your man, your man. I don't know. Like the holes that I know, and I'm talking about holes that, like, were hoeing since they were like 12, 13 years old. Like, this is in them. Who is hoeing since 12, 13 years old? Plenty.

Plenty. Believe me. Oh. Yeah. Like, dedicated holes. They make the greatest wives. Like they're, because they got all their shit out of the way. Like, they've been doing.

going it for so long, that shit is like, they be in the house, chilling. It'd be the girl that got her heart broken by a nigga recently, and she'd been a good girl her whole life, and a nigga did her dirty, and she got that impurity in her heart. Yeah. And she's never known what the false glamour of being in the streets is like. She's never been on a vacation she didn't earn. She's never had the opportunity to just be in a DM.

You want to fly out of fucking Turks? Bet, bring all your friends. Let's go to the fucking. private airport. She don't even know about that. So she goes crazy because she's never experienced those things. The whole been doing that since she was 18. I just don't think people give enough credit. I just don't think people give enough credit to the amount of women that are out here that don't have a whole pass that are cool as well. I think we just kind of act like those women are extinct. I think we've been trying to tell you that that's the case. No. We've been explaining to you that

the whole world isn't hose. I know that there's cool girls I hear that don't have whole past. Most of the times they're either already in relationships taking like, you know, shit like that. But I just think that if somebody poses a question like that, I think it's because just be honest, you like holes and it's okay to like hose. Clay came on here and said he likes promiscuous women. I thought that was great. Who? Clay. He said his, that's his type. He likes those type of women. And that's fine. Like, if that's what you like, yo, date who you like, man. That's, it's 20, we're going to 25. Date who you like. It doesn't even matter anymore. Whoever you like, whoever you in love with, whoever you want to be with.

No matter who you with, if somebody gonna talk about you, they're gonna talk about it. The aliens are gonna come in 2025 and nobody is gonna give a fuck about who she fucked in 2014. Yeah, the alien's like, if you fuck an alien, I don't know.

Because like, you know what I'm saying? Like, if you fuck an alien, I don't think I could get past that type shit. Because, like, what if you're not pleased with me? Like, what if the alien has some fire? I don't know. Hmm. Hmm.

Did the alien, like, run in my friend's circle? Like, was he around? Does the alien know people that I know that it could get back to me and affect my future with her. Like, are they going to be whispering at the alien mixer? Like, yo, fam, he with her? Y'all joking, but it's going to come to a point where we're going to... We flew out to Area 51 and got busy with her.

We're going to start walking past aliens like a normal day in Manhattan. I think we're doing it now. Yeah, like, alien on the corner. There's an alien over there. Everybody taking pictures of it. I believe that's where it's headed. And I'm dead serious. How they can be walking pictures with a naked cowboy in Times Square?

It's going to be like a, it's going to be an alien. Yeah. And people can be like, oh, shit, they're real. Like, yeah, like, yeah, they're not harmful. They're just chilling. Like, it'll get to that point eventually. Absolutely. Well, let's get into this conversation with Elliot Wilson.

Got into some year-in wrap-up shit, some arguments. We had to press Elliott. Where's B-DOT? Where is B-Dott? What's up with this new West Coast podcast? You know, it was a cool conversation. Always fun to have Elliott on, especially to end the year. Happy New Year.

Everyone have a safe night. It's amateur night. Please, please be safe. be safe be blessed happy 2025 how you lemon ginger and drink lemon ginger because I am a lemon ginger you're like living in lemon ginger life

nigga it helps how you're living ginger and drinking lemon ginger yeah fuck it's just adding in a it's like my steroids you're how does a lemon ginger it's a little lemon ginger adapting right but we are back for the last episode of 24 right before new year's eve And we figured because he traveled all the way

from the left coast, the left side. Yo, I'm not going to lie, when I woke up this morning, you know what you felt? I looked outside the window, Rory, you know what I'm saying? I had my cup of coffee. Yeah. I said, you know, I feel a little opi outside. Okay.

It was overcast. Is that why you thought so? Yeah, it was a little gloomy. It was like, I didn't know if it was raining. It was a little drizzle. It felt like someone brought like some smog from the west coast over to the east. Coast. I'm like, could this be the holiday? You know, the holiday kind of like depression when

the holiday's here and it's like ending and then the end of the year. And, you know, you start metaphor of that. You're saying this is the, I didn't know what it was. And then as I'm sitting in the office today, Rory, the elevator door is open. Yes. And Elliot Wilson gets off the elevator. And I'm like, oh, this is West Coast Wilson, which he coined himself, by the way. He coined himself West Coast Wilson. I mean, listen, if that's what you coined yourself, I'm here to call you that. Yeah. Thank you. West Coast Wilson for joining us. Thank you, Ma.

I've been waiting for this face-to-face. Let's go. What's up? I'm ready. It's been a very interesting year. Talk to me nicely, niggas. I'm just, don't listen, man. My energy is, I love all y'all.

Your lineage, nigga. Exactly. I love everybody. Biggs love me, hot loving, you love me, nigga. Exactly. So I'm just happy to finally be able to sit here and talk to you face, and laugh about the year. Crazy year. It's been, it felt like five years.

Right. This one year has felt like five. Insane. Every time me and Rory talk about something, it's like, wait, that happened this year. It's crazy. The older you get, years do fly by. 2024 did not. No.

This shit felt long. A lot has helped happen this year. But all jokes aside of this, good to see you. Thank you, Maugh. Welcome to our home. I know Marlon is really fucked with a lot of guests. True. I mean, not that I'm like the main American niggas.

He loves love for that. Shout to my guys. Shout to my guys. Like, Maul will shut it down. It's like, okay, come to the program. But like, Maul is not like a lot of guests. So I respect that. It's not that I don't like a lot of guests.

I just don't want to have guests on that either me or Rory kind of don't really have. I don't like to get to know people on camera. It's just awkward to me. I'd rather have some type of rapport in real life away from the camera. Well, you guys have a lot of years in. Do you feel like there was a bit of a shift in 2024? I'm here just to be like the couples counselor with everything. Just of who Elliott aligned himself with.

Ironically, because the last time we were all together. The last time we were all together. Where is the last time we were on? Me and Elliot have had dinner plenty of times. I see him all the time. That's my man. But on mic to the public, the last time we were all together,

we were in Paul's a hot-ass trailer at Made in America in the Doucet trailer. Damn, that was the last time? And we had interviewed Elliot and B-Dat as Rap Radar. Did me first and then did me and B-Dat after that. I doubled up. So we should have saw the divide at that point. That was two years, right?

That was two years, right? I pulled the homie. It's all of love. Yes, of course. It's weird. BDOT, from my understanding, lives on the East Coast, and we have another chair.

Yeah. We're not short of chairs. What's up, man? Let's get. Let's start that, man. Let's start there. Because I'm seeing a lot of Elliot and DJ head. You know what I'm saying?

Shout out the head. That's my God. But it's like, what's going to? What's the theory? You think that I started a show with DJ head called The Bigger picture is why. No, we don't think. It's recorded.

I'm already, like, going to be asked with the boy going forward, right? Yeah. You said, well, I said, yeah. There we go. I'm trying to understand that. You said, you said, yeah. This guy has been doing media for so long.

Look at how he deflected. I asked about BDat, his partner. And he said, yo, DJ head. I can't even fuck with Drake no more. He said DJ head and the boy. I love BDX. I said Brian Miller. Love Brian Miller.

Legend. Agree. Yeah. 100%. What's up, though? Where's y'all? Where's y'all working relationship at? First of what, where is y'all personal relationship at?

My guy is 100%. When's the last time you spoke to him? You saw him. You tricked us. I thought there was a big return with Christmas. You asked the question. It's like, well,

I just don't know. I just said, D. D. It's like, nigga, what the fuck is this? If I saw, if somebody saw Rory

on camera with, you know, DJ whoever every fucking week. You can say DJ head. Yeah, with DJ head. You know what's saying? And somebody would ask

Rory eventually like, yo, what's, we're all. What's all that? So it's only natural. You said that's your third time same level.

You said that's your third time. You know, we get the right situation. We rack out. you know what I'm saying like we got to get the right paperwork right okay okay legendary like nobody got the interviews demas knows too baby what's up your profit partners huh are y'all profit partners of course absolutely I think they're co-owners I don't know if they're yeah whatever it is like you got nobody's none no more legend is that why he wears a doo-rag all the time huh is that why he wears a du rag all

the time you got him in 360 that's a south side shit that's the jamaica shit I can't we like we get along You're outside, I'm with side, so it's tough. So y'all, everything is cool on the personal level. I love me, that. No, but how's everything on the personal level? You're good. We're good. Okay.

All right, just making sure. So we get the deal right, you get the best interviews. Like, that thing is like, yo, there's no interviews anymore. It's like, yo, we just commentary. You just don't like the new interviews. Hello. You've been very vocal in your disdain. Oh, Ma's focused.

I don't know. Let's go. I think it's two things. I think it's two things. Let's go, baby. Obviously, the podcast space is. completely different financially for everybody. I don't care whose pot it is.

The times have changed. So I can obviously see that being a thing. You guys both have other shit going on. But to Mall's point, let's say it was the old podcast boom in 2016, 2017. Is there a space for real interviews anymore? Does anyone actually want to sit with two journalists and be interviewed? Or even one. Well, that's why I'm here because I got Ellie Wilson experience launching January 7th.

Rock Nation's Powered Me. Abso Waleh, who I got, Absol Waleh, Snoop. Your favorite, Leon Thomas. My God, yeah. Thank you to Rory for pull up. You know what I'm saying? So, yeah, I think it has to be a space for that.

I feel, me. I think it does. I think there is a space still for the traditional interview, journalism type of thing. I just think that you caught some slack online because, you know, coming from the era we're from.

Yep. You know, I used to stand, I used to stand in the corner store and read magazines all day. You know what I mean? No, I didn't never pay. I just used to read them and then, you know. You still the shit counts as a sale.

Yeah. Really? Yeah. Oh, okay. If you still, it's a... Right. So we come from that. But you do...

I want to set it. You boosts is a win. You boosts is a win. So you do have to understand how in 20, 23, 24, things have changed. Yes, sir. Media has changed. Yes, sir. Technology has made it to where people enjoy things,

differently now. People want to sit and watch somebody stream and just be in the house and do whatever. And if a celebrity pulls up to kick it with them on the stream, people watch it. They like it. Yes. It doesn't have to be the prototypical, hey, let's sit down, let's talk, let's interview. Yeah. People, people like to, I think, you know, for celebrities and things like that, I think they, they rather feel more comfortable and at ease instead of sitting somewhere and feeling like they're being grilled. Yeah, a little more of a safe space. What's going on? And you spoke out about, you know, your feelings on that. It bothers me. But why does it bother you?

Because it's like there needs to be a balance. I think when you put an album out, for example any artists, right? You put an album out, I don't think the album is like your own reflection of it. I think you need to talk about your art, what you did to somebody. You trust or respect. Like it gets lost without that. It's just like one album like, oh, put the album out.

Even Freddy Gibbs. Like, y'all's chairman of Freddy Gibbs' album, right, all day. Freddie Gibbs, he don't want to talk to nobody. It's like, yo, what the fuck? But I think Freddy's comes from just more disdain for being in the industry for 10 years and a lot of shit going back forward with that.

There's an imbalance in the game. Where I think it's odd and I've defended you all year when it was you versus the streamers just because you my man's, but I am here to say that my issue is that you haven't leaned all the way into it because I agree with you.

There's still, it's okay to have our favorite artists go and have fun on a stream. and do a sleepover with Kai, I think it's incredible. But there needs to be somewhat of a balance, especially in a time where if we don't get an interview, we don't know anything about your life, and rappers are more celebrities than they are musicians now. If I don't get a hove in Drake, Nause,

if I don't get any of those interviews, I can go to the album and find out where they're at in their life. That's how you get attached as a fan to an artist. Now they're more celebrity than they are musician. So who you are as a person is way more important. I think the sit-down interview is what people actually care more. Because y'all not talk about shit in your music. So I can't get any type of connection.

Why is so cool? We're all media now, but everybody was talking to media. It's like it's an imbalance. I mean, media is only interviewing media because I feel like the fans shifted. And I think we saw that the most, and I don't want to get in a full-blown Kendrick Drake thing. But we saw that in May, the complete shift. It was right in front of our faces that these people are fans of content. They're not fans of music.

And a lot of those fans are fans of media people, even though we talk about music. we do talk about a bunch of other shit. It's very much a lifestyle, content-based game with podcasting and streaming. As much as I do want to hear from Kai about music, that's like a minuscule part of Kai's brand. Kai is Kai's brand, not his opinion on what a Cardi song is.

So these fans are interested in media, messy media shit in media talking to other media, less than the artist because the artists aren't as interesting maybe as we once thought they were. But we have to have the interviews that balance the commentary, right? We have commentary all day, but it's like, yo, where's the conversation with these people that are making the art? But do you think?

Where's that balance? Like, there's no balance anymore. Do you think there's a lot of artists that have good teams behind them that are telling them don't go do that? Because people have a different view of you when you have to do a long form. I saw it with the presidency shit where everyone was saying, you know, Trump did a great thing by going with Rogan. People got to know him for three hours, not talk about politics. To carry a three-hour conversation. Yeah.

And Kamala's team said they didn't want to do that. because it was exposing too much of who she really was. She can't control a three-hour interview. I think people are getting the same advice to their artists, whether it be label execs or major. 100%. We know how you are when you're not on a microphone. Everyone's going to dislike you.

So if you have to do a two-hour interview with someone that's really a journalist, if I'm managing an artist I know is not built for that, I'm definitely going to tell them, you're doing live and we'll do it together. Are you prepared to tell the truth, right? Like, is Drake prepared to have a real conversation about everything that went on, like Kendrick, Cole.

Are they prepared right now to have real conversation? Maybe not. Okay, probably, but why would they owe that this soon? Even though I would want that. They're not ready for it, I don't think, right now. But why do you say they're not ready for it? Because it requires so much honesty of like really looking at the whole landscape of what happened, the introspection of it.

It's like, yo, we're not there yet. But with people like Cole and Drake, I think we're going to get that in the music on the next album, both of them. So yeah, of course I'd want them to sit down and have to really answer to certain questions. I would love for Kendrick to sit with someone and someone straight up asked, do you really think Drake is Bedevile? Like, I want those questions, of course. Yeah. But with them, I don't care as much because they will put that in the music. Yeah. These younger artists, they don't, they're not saying shit either. So where is the connection as a consumer? Well, the young artists don't even know how to talk. Yeah, I was going to say that.

I'm like, they're not doing interviews because they don't know how to speak. Half of these young artists speak. They don't even how to talk. But y'all say that, but there's also this other group of artists that are now content creators. They're media. Yeah. Like we always do the City Girl number seven as a joke, but she is, Young Miami is good at what she does for the purpose of it. There is still a side, and those people that could do great interviews are now becoming the media. Yes.

Everybody's media. Summer Walker's media. Cameras running about he's Stephen A. Smith is what we're doing with. Why are you saying like he's Stephen A. that running around like Cameron. That's what people would be mad at you about when you say shit like that. Which I think he should lean into. Be the old villain.

OD, that was hate. You know what I'm saying? That's why I think people would be mad at you. Oh, it's hate. Cam is running around like he's Stephen A. Smith. Why is this poor journalist? Because he has an opinion. Why? Him and Mesa proved to have a good opinion that people care about. He got mixed having a job and really because the bag is there.

But Elliot, you don't think that we all come from the culture of we all sit around in our neighborhoods in front of our buildings. But I'm just saying, we all sit around in our groups with our friends and talk about sports, music. That's all these guys are doing right now.

But that's not fair. Is Shannon Sharper a journalist? No, but that's the easier bridge. That's where the athlete becomes the media. That's the easier. Charles Barker, that's easier transition. So why is it easier for the athlete but not the artist? It's not easier, but I don't like it Because, like, you imagine, like, this is the shit I do well, and now everybody want to do it.

And they get the slender off that shit. So, you know, you don't like it because you feel like they're not coming to the journalist to have this conversation. I'm real with that. Which affects your bottom arm. The best I ever do is me with that. So then you want to be that off celebrity or whatever. So I can talk about that.

I don't like that shit. And I'd be a hater. It's reality. Yeah. I don't like it. You don't like it because you don't think they're good at it? I know I'm better at it. Okay.

It's me. It's my life. Life. Okay. But Elliot, what would make you better at it? Because in this day and age, it's just not about getting the information right. It's about who's more entertaining? So who are you to say, I'm better at this than them when what's the important thing?

I'll prove it to you. Like, I'm the best. I'm more informed. Are you better at telling a story? Are you better at getting accurate information? They're not better. Like, that's she cringe worthy. I why say shit?

It's not good. She ain't popping. This, it ain't popping. I don't agree. What's the camera? I was like, yo, camera. I really asked the questions. What are you talking about?

No. But what interview did Cam take away from something of, let's say we're the hip hop. Even if Maul and I are in journalists, we're still in hip hop media. You are a hip hop journalist. What interview to Cam take away from us? They have, celebrity has access to different things that I may not have. And again, I think I feel like they underperform. See, I think I have to push back there because you have had 25 years of relationships with public.

30, the three majors where Cam is a celebrity and has relationships for him being in the game for 30 years but you have direct relationships with the majors that the rest of the podcasting world never had.

So you still do have that. I think we have to go back to the period at the end of the sentence of what the fans want. And with Cam or Young Miami, maybe they just want to be entertained. With Kai, they just want to be entertained. They don't want to be informed.

The access goes, to them above me. That's the problem I have. That's what it comes down to. You see what I'm saying? Because it seems sexy like, yo, Cam's the sports reporter now.

Hey, woo-woo. Let's not act like that's not always been hip-hop or entertainment at the time. We've seen things that were hot and then failed immediately, but at that time, that was the hot shit that people went to.

That's less like any genre. You don't have to fail. It's all good. They can do their thing. I'm just saying like, yo, I'm a competing. I want a shot. I'm in this.

I'm still here. I want to compete. But that, I mean, that goes back. But now you sound like the old nigger in the park that don't get picked up no more. And I don't want to be that. You're right. Yeah, but not, I'm not saying that you are that because I know your work. I'm from New York City.

I know Elliot Wilson's work. My nigger. But I'm just, I do understand at the same time, like, there was a time where what I was into growing up, you know, my parents and my uncles, they was kind of like, yo, what is that you all? I listened to. That's great. Mall, it wasn't fly to be media. No, that's a fact. You're in media. That's a fact.

You built the whole foundation. Yeah. It wasn't. Yeah. You did that. You both for y'all. Yeah. It wasn't fly.

That plus the format changing, whether it be YouTube and social media. My life is that. Because print was cool, but it was never sexy because at the end of shit, it was just your name. I made as far as I could back then with the LXL. Mm-hmm. Right? Mm-hmm. It wasn't that fly.

but I feel like you and this is why I was defending you all year you adapted and why I think people like Kai and other streamers should look at you because I watched you since I was a kid adapt to the new shit every time the source was the source it was the only thing dead or that was it

the Bible there could never be another magazine shifted went to double XL everyone was blackballed I'll go with the people that are blackballed here you go here's 50 cent on a cover double Xcel like you always shifted with that then when the blogs came even though you pissed off not right and everyone else because they felt like you were late to the party to the regular consumer you weren't.

They hated Rap radar, right? Rap radar came. Oh my God. But then how all those bloggers viewed you, I think is how you're viewing someone like Cameron because you have all the connections and relationships that maybe SK, Lowe, MEC, and them didn't have. But you still looked like somebody that was at the forefront of shifting to blogs. Then we made podcast and popping.

Then Rap radar podcast game and you took, God knows how many interviews from us. but you continue to adapt so that's why I'm shocked to hear the things that you're saying now because I've only known you to adapt and you're right now in the process of adapting I got my own L.A. Wilson's experiencing popping off January 7th interviews

Bigger picture of DJ head, Jeremy Heck. I'm trying. I'm out here. And I think what you guys have done this year with the elephant in the room. Let's talk about it. With Drake and Kendrick. I mean, yes. I know you're West Coast Wilson.

Let's go. West Coast Wilson is crazy. Let me just put down there. I didn't want to make this. Calling yourself, West Coast Wilson is absolutely crazy. You've been in L.A. how many years now? No, a little bit. Not even two years, right?

Yeah, two free. Call it West Coast. You, East Village Radio is like a staple. Like, what are we? West Coast Wilson? You abandoned the East Village Radio? I think Drake walked in the East Village. No securities do that interview.

Yeah, he did. Oliver. All over. All right. So let's get to, let's get to this shit. Let's go, Ma. Because I have some questions.

So, so what's up, man? Because I honestly, I feel like had Elliot Wilson not been relocated and living on the West Coast in California. Okay. I feel like your stance on a lot

of the whole Kendrick Drake shit would be different. Wow. Okay. I feel like it was by proxy. Talk about it. Yo, it's, it's, It's sunshine. It's good we.

Pretty women. It's like it's 60s outside. See what I'm saying? It's Paroos outside. Fuck it's. I'm West Coast Wilson now. You know what I'm saying? I feel like if Elliot was still living in New York City,

I don't feel like your stance on a lot of things would be what it is right now. I'm going to be honest. I don't think so. I love you, my wife. I received that. Yeah. My therapist said I received that.

But no, speed to it, though. How much of it is because you were on the way? You felt that. energy. You felt that, you know, the entire California. I'm extremely disappointed that our guy, the boy, lost his battle.

But why do you feel like he lost the battle? Because he never viewed him as a worthy opponent. Undesimestimated his opponent. He's like, y'all, I take this shit seriously. I don't think that's true. Now we disagree. Now we got our first disagreement. We got our first disagreement at the night. I'm here. I'm on the opposite side of that. I feel

like... He doesn't need. He doesn't Kendra's on his level. I don't believe that. He does not. No, he still doesn't. I don't think Drake... He still doesn't. I don't think Drake engages with anybody unless he feels like they're worthy.

No, but he turned everything to 20v1. Everything he did was that. Literally and Family Matters said, I gotta get serious about it. I gotta get focused. Family Matters, he says that about the shit. He can't focus on... That's because the first part of Family Matters was from the beat of pushups, and it felt like he probably had most of that done already.

Yeah. And then continued on. It was the 20V1 shit. It wasn't. like, yo, Kendrick is a threat to me. He could be greater than me. Drake never thought that. Ever.

I don't think he's replying to the 20V1 shit unless Kendrick is involved in it or Kendrick was the one that said something on like that. If like that doesn't have Kendrick, I don't think he's replying to the weekend with, I think it's just going to be a sub. Of course. Future, just a sub. I don't think we get the Metro shut your whole ass up. I don't think we get any of the 20V1 if Kendrick's not involved in.

Well, you know, Kenrick always wanted to like have the battle with dudes. and try to tear him down. And then he was never like he's my opponent. So when he challenges me, I'm going to like get him right. Well, you started. You know what?

You know what? It makes sense, right? I started what? The Kendrick and Drake tension was 100% your fault. Okay. Control verse. Control verse came out. Everyone laughed about it. Crown.

Mac Miller put out a beautiful tweet. Everyone that was really... What was the MacMiller tweet? Can I still use like verbs in similts? Males or something. He said, Matt said something fucking hilarious. A lot of people took it with a grain of salt that it was just competition. You interviewed Drake Live after nothing was the same. Yep. And Drake sounded, I'm not saying this was the case. I'm just observing as a fan, sounded like he was a bit in his feelings because his temperament changed and said, you remember

any other line off that, which is cool. He's entitled to do that. That started everything to me when he was on stage with you. Damn. So what would you, what would you like to see Drake do post battle. Interview him. You know what, fuck it. Let's get to it. Same city. Same city.

You're in Toronto. You're in Toronto. You're in Toronto. At the Rogers Center. At the Rogers Center. I like that. Kendrick is five hours from performing. Let's not put you at the Rogers Center.

Let's put you in the Marriott. Let's put you in the hotel. Let's put you in a beautiful hotel in Toronto, right? Let's put you at the one hotel. Let's do it. Let's do it. And you get a text from Kendrick. Okay.

Yo, listen, I have a window from five to six. I'm open. Big window. Can I do, you want to do an interview real quick? Yes, sir. And you say, okay, cool, I'm on my way. Ten minutes later, Drake texts you to say, and you'll listen, I'm flying out at 7 p.m.

I'm free five to six. If you want to get this interview real quick, let me know. I'll send a car for you. He can find a loophole on this one. I'm going to change it just a bit. Both them text you at 4.30 p.m. They say at 5 p.m. I'll push the one back.

I'm getting both. I can only do five to five. You can't push nothing back. Which interview are you taking? How? You can't. You don't have the power to push Kendrick Lamar or Drake back. I'm taking Drake.

I'm taking Drake. Above Kendrick. Yeah. Why? Because that's the story. Drake is the one who has to like respond now. Kendrick is that all he's had to say. Nobody cares what he has to be anymore.

Mall asked me this question on Mike. I said Drake right away too. Talk to him. There's more questions that we have. interview yeah could we never seen him be the like catch a L like that you just keep it real let's go let's go let's go mom why would you take that interview why would you take the Drake interview and don't tell me it's because people want to hear from Drake why would he have to understand what it means what who Kendrick is in terms of his legacy compared to him that's the big

battle we know it's the big free it's like Kendrick Drake Colt what is kenjee mean to his legacy right because you know he's an icon he's great but what is Kenji me is he a word rival? Who is he to him? Obviously he's a worthy rival. He battled. But he never treated that nigga like he was that. That's why he lost. I'm telling you. Every time. Go back and listen. It wasn't there. I don't know if this stuff is true, but from the West Coast affiliates to Kendrick, people that have like a one degree of separation relationship with him or direct to have given me damn near every question I had about what was happening that week in May. Do you agree with your co-hosts on 405 radar?

that what radar? That all of us need to move all our music to 90 BPM because Kendrick Lamar won a rap battle. Now, shy of DJ head, though. Look, we love DJ head. It's incredible now.

Do you guys start that show without the battle? Because we've had head in our green rooms we argue all the time. I think he has a great perspective for podcasting. Me and the board would never be good because I started the show with him as the app.

Because he challenged, he challenged Drake at the time we'd push-ups when the first came out. Is it a real? record you putting it out. Academics was playing it. It wasn't real. Head challenged him like, yo, it's your record, claim it,

bring it to streaming. That's what happened. I was there. I think I have a great question to put the bow on this conversation. Because I am a man without a country. I have no flag in this. But this has been a conversation post-battle. Innocent white man. For how DJ head was, because I don't want to use cape and any of those weird words.

I think DJ Head just is a fan of Kendrick-Gamar and has relationship. And he's always defended the West Coast forever. That's been head way before this battle. Yes. People have been saying that Kendrick owes DJ head some form of an interview. And people have said, Drake owes Mall or even at some type of interview based off. I'm in for all that.

I wanted to ask both of y'all opinion on that. I never felt like that's an artist. Oh, no. But we don't owe. They don't owe. But we would love to have that. Not old. saying he's pissed at these artists aren't sitting down

with people in a fly yo we helped in a battle from some certain platform or cap to new or no one wasn't it's too much media like say that there's too much media without the conversation of like with the artists I'm saying it's an imbalance right can we admit it's one way we commentary all day

there's no conversation there's no engagement it's an imbalance not cool like I think if you put a record out like that's one thing but like to act like I put the record on I'm not talking about It's like, why, why? Like, you're violating yourself.

Like, what was my man's mind with GNX? Like, what, like, talk about the album, like, to people. Like, why? Why is it cool to not do interviews? Why is it cool for the not to talk to us when everybody wants to be immediate right now? I thought the Siza and Kendrick interview was great. Did you see the only thing that they clipped?

There's pages and pages of amazing conversation between two superstar artists that are both in their almost mid-30s that are going through life changes that was an incredible combo. What was clipped? Bullshit, right? Three sentences of fucking nonsense?

So even artists that would sit down and have a real intellectual conversation or even sit with someone because I know Siza and Kendrick obviously have years and years of a relationship outside of just music. Even that gets clipped to bullshit. So why?

I would point to me, like I don't feel like it has been clipped that way with the rap rater with Jay-Z Will Smith, Drake. It's not been clipped that way. So that's my argument. Different times. I provided that. You're looking at 2016 and hip hop now lives in one year is five years,

or I could even argue one year is 10 years the way things move. Absolutely. 2016 was a different time. And even with a lot of that 444 interview that is one of my favorites ever in podcasting, a lot of the bullshit was clip too. And then when he did the New York Times and sat like this for three hours, which I have no idea how he did that. They clipped cheating rumors.

He said amazing things in the New York Times article. It's always going to be clipped with the bullshit at this point. So I get the frustration of even artists that don't want to sit. Do I think it's odd that Drake did the Aden Raw shit instead? Sure. But that's the time we're in now. Is that dream? Yeah.

Should I complain about the artist or should I complain about the time? We don't even need to make it Drake specific. Should I complain about the audience and the era we're in? Or should I be mad at the artist for making the decision that's better for their career in the time that we're living in? At the time when Double XL was popping, yeah, it made sense for an artist to go have a write-up from Elliot Wilson. They did what was right for their career. That now, whether we like it or not, is what the streamers are. They're making a better decision.

You're actually an artist yourself, right? So you make an album. It's like, yo, you don't feel like you should go anywhere to explain. Talk about your album? Go look at my minuscule press run that I did and why I didn't want to do much. And I love talking to, that's fine.

Love talking to AD, everyone. What was clipped from all that? Podcast gossip? Bullshit. Wow. Me getting off my square coming out of some emotional shit because I saw another clip.

Nobody wanted to talk to me about my fucking R&B album. That's fair. And even when I do reach out to certain R&B platforms. It feels real Godham. I think they exist, but also it's tough to even promote. So my thinking was, all right, I guess what's good for the goose is good for the gander. If I can at least get on these platforms to have the clickbady conversations that I usually tend to stay away from.

But also promote my R&B album that did sell better than a lot of major artists. Talk about it. D'Maris. That's the way. But let's look at somebody like Offset, for example. so much so much shit going on in his personal life that not that I particularly care to hear a real sit-down interview from but I think there is a deeper conversation with his relationship with the right interviewer yes but with his image and how the stand culture fights the other stand culture and it doesn't even matter the records it's all about you know it's fucking

it's the eagles and the giants am i wrong it's better for his image to go to kai's house and dance He looks like a happy person So I can't accept that that bothers me And I want to be that person I think you should be mad at the audience I'm mad like yo Because if he went and straight fell out Like Martin pillows are hurt

Like I'm a real person Like what you why's it got to be fake It's like it's what it is like yo Like I want to be that person to media Right You were though And if you continue to be You just have to adjust to what the audience is now

Okay And I think a lot of that comes from What you're doing with Elliot experience with talking with artists that do want to talk about music. Exactly. Like you got Leon Thomas. Like Leon Thomas?

A phenomenal album. Best album. Y'all, y'all crowned it. Yeah, Freddie, I think Freddie has the best rap album. Okay, Fred, I love, I wanted to bring it up. I love Freddy. The whole, like, the skits with the whole narrative.

That's what we... It's fucked up. But I understand it, though. It's not good. But I get the skits because he's speaking to his vices and things that he's recognizing and taking accountability for that he's done to himself

and his career throughout the years. So I get that part of it. I just think it went a little too. Yes, I ask you to well. It kind of fucked with the listening. It kind of works against it. It's not against the Gibbs. And it kind of did the opposite.

The rapping, the production. It's phenomenal. It's phenomenal. Now, it was like, yo, where you all like, making Freddy Gibbs the album to be, like, I got to talk about this shit. I'm like, yo, I can't deal

with the whole skits of this shit. Like, it's crazy. And he put, he did in reverse like the better skits are towards the end it just popped off with you again concept was great execution was the record you also you also the 2020 and 20 rec you lost that shit up sampling the it's our anniversary it got taken off oh that's not that's one of the best songs that got taken off just listen to the shit he didn't clear it oh god damn all right yeah all right i don't think he did yeah that that that that freddie gibbs one right yeah yeah yeah my personal

for for for this year which we talked about on the last episode but i am curious what your rap top 10 was I have Gibbs at number one, Dochi, Vince Staples, number three, Tyler, number four, Tara Wack number five, Cole number six, schoolboy Q number seven, Kendrick eight, nine future Metro, 10 Rhapsody. This is my personal taste. This isn't what I think like the top is. My top three is Kendry, G&X, Tyler, and then Future Metro, you don't trust you. Okay.

Those are my top three. Wait, Kendrick, what? GNX mall, you never heard this album called GNX? He's never heard of it. From the guy that won the battle. Never heard of it. Did the pop-out show? So Freddy's not,

drop the album? So Freddy's not in your top three? Not top three, no. For real? What? Freddy rapping. His personal taste though. Y'all get it, but Freddy rapping his ass.

I just not top-tops. I ain't saying it got to be number one, but not even top three rapping? Who? You think Tyler wrapped better than Freddie? Tyler's the man. Get the fuck out of here. Big Tyler.

Tyler. I love Tyler. Big Tyler. But he didn't rap. better than Friggins on his album. Yeah. Don't get the fuck out of here. Big Tyler, stepped up.

Crazy as hell. Freddie rapped better on his album, for sure. He better rapper. I can totally understand saying that Tyler's album was a better. You're talking about that type of shit. I get that. I'm saying with that bar. It's not about bars competition.

I'm something like the music itself. Did you guys think? When the last time you listened to that Tyler album? No, the thing. Rata to Tita. Like, I love that shit. It's crazy. I listened to it over.

Christmas break for sure. Yo, man. I can't. $20,000. on me. Maude does that a lot with me too. Trying to tell me when was the last time you listened to it and doesn't believe me. I'm like,

on my way here I was listening to these people. I'm just like, no, y'all do not, man. This year is. I saw your year in wrap-ups. No. It was Drake. It was fucking party.

Top free is very clear. Kendry GnX. It was Cardi? Tyler's shit. That's a party. And future metro the first one. Those are the top free. Okay, for you.

All right. I get it. I respect. To everybody. It's not to everybody. That's not my top three. What you talking about? Freddie Gibbs?

Freddie, I don't know, I don't remember my list It was, I think Freddy If you don't do the order, you're like, you're like, you don't do the order Freddy was number one I know that, everything else kind of was like Depending on the day Yeah, but that don't mean the songs was terrible Now that sounds like you nitpicking

Now you say the skits was terrible So you're saying because the skits was terrible That means the album doesn't get Hey, hey Freddy Gibbs Like, yo, what the fuck in my ass? It's the devil Yeah, but you know What the fuck is that?

That's gay, that's not, that's not, that's not Gang? What the fuck we're talking about? Talking to the devil. That's gang gang. That's not hot. But, all right, has there been great albums with city skits? He sabotages his own shit. Kanye always had really good skits. Good Kid Mad City.

Great skits. Eminem, like him or not. Those Paul skits, even when he was doing weird, ICP, fallatio shit. It was the time whether we like it or not. Yeah, Gibbs album might be the first one that I said could, potentially was my face. but could be a classic with bad skits. That maybe the first time that's happened in rap history. Right? Now that I think about...

If the skits wasn't on it? I'm not going to get the skits out of there. But... Them skits never worked in his favorite, the whole album. What's that Tori Lane's album that was actually good, but the skits were fucking god awful? I think that was his first album. His first one, yeah.

Those were... That's how, uh, Freddy shit. That's how I feel with that. Okay. Like, I would love that. If Brady had those skits, I would love him way more. Everyone, this has nothing to do with the combo we had before.

For all the dogs, I thought... those skits were weird. Yeah. Either make it a radio show or don't, like commit to it or don't. I don't even remember those skits on it. He's like halfway through the album, all of a sudden, it's Snoop Dogg's on the radio. And I'm like, we've been listening to radio the whole time.

Okay, yeah, yeah. Going to slime you out, right? Yeah, yeah. It was weird. So, yeah, I feel you on that. So Freddie don't have skits on this album. Does it make your top three? Top 10, not top three.

So it's not even top 10 for you? My top three is very clear. It's Kendrick. Freddy is not in your top 10? Future. bro. Freddy's not in your top I'm confident

my top three. No, your top 10. Freddy's album is not in your top 10. No, I said it might be in the top 10 in the bottom half of the top 10. Damn. That's crazy.

Damn, baby. Do you what the saying? It was not 10. It was not 10 rap albums better than Freddie's album. Come on, dog. Bro, it was not 10 rap albums better than Freddy's album this year.

We're not doing that. We're not doing that, Elliot. We are not doing that. It was not 10 rap albums better than you only died once. Gets the gifts. Y'amal Lipskins was terrible. I almost want her to pull up

2024 rap albums and make you answer this. Yeah, like you're not saying. Freddy's album is a top 10 rap album this year, bro. It might be in the bottom half. I said that. Top Free is solidified. Okay. It's Kendrick, Taller, Future, and Metro.

The first one. I feel confident of my top free. Is it better than J. Cole might delete later? Even though that's the EP to me, but it was called. I don't count that. No, yes. That's low with me, too. But it was considered album of the year with the Grammys?

Are you? You said it was some bullshit Whole fair, all shit It wasn't no bullshit You don't got to be disrespectful It wasn't bullshit Where's the fall off I'm talking about the fall off

Like, Who would a fall off? The fall of it You think is half stepping Last year How do you feel about cold Throughout all of this? Did you get your riser passes

To the garden? More with the loaded question I'm just asking How do you feel about How do you feel about cold Through all of this? Because you're a hip hop journal And you know what hip hop culture is

You know what we witnessed. Us witnessing that was absolute blasphemy. You know that. It was. You shot on that much, G. I'm just saying, guys say y'all had an amazing year. Shout to Roy and Moss.

Well, thank you for that. I appreciate that. Shout out to you, DJ. Yeah, you guys did as well. Yeah, because you called it what it was. I felt the same way. I called it what it was at the time. What I don't like is that I thought the Portentanyo record was dope.

But everybody took the record. It was like, yo, he said, was in the battle, I would have bowed that I lost a friend. And they're like, they gravitated towards that where they, they didn't appreciate the record how dope the record was. But he knew that as a writer, he knew with that ball. I hate that shit, though. But he knew what that ball was going to do.

Listeners get like in a quarter of that one lyric and like, yo, oh, dismiss it, Bubba. But what I'm saying is Cole knew what that bar was going to do. No, he did. No, he did. He definitely did. He didn't. Are you kidding me? That's like him doing an interview.

He's speaking directly to the battle. No, but the backlash of that bar not representing and respecting the song. song was dope. Yeah, the song was dope. I think he was prepared going into it knowing that that was going to be dissected those two bars rather than the story he told about his life on the second verse.

It's crazy how people could take a look. Even with Drake Hart Part 6th, they took it like, yo, Drake sounds defeated. That wasn't his intent, right? And they didn't run with that shit. It's like, yo, that's the narrative. It's crazy. But that's been forever.

Like, Blueprint 2. Hove is talking on that. What's the only line that was dissected? Just because he wear a coofy. it don't mean that he's bright. Yeah. But go into that record, there's so much other stuff. It went into that, yeah.

And I think Jay knew that, going into it. And I think Cole knew that as well. He just wanted to put out a good record. If I have to address it, let me attach it to some shit that's not bullshit. Because my real fans also care about my music rather than just the bad. I think Cole's dope. I think Cole has a sore spot that he can never really go at Kendrick or Drake. He can't go at no.

No, he can't go at nobody. No, everybody else. No. He can't do that. No. He can't do that. Everybody but Cole and Drake. Bro, listen.

I'm telling you. On Freddie album, Freddie kind of threw a shot at Cole. Cole can't say nothing. He would do it. He can't. No, Cole can't go at nobody. He can't. I don't believe that.

Because that's selective power. You can't do that in hip-hop. You can't pick and choose. He's caught up in the whole little brother, big brother shit with Kendrick and Drake. He is. Everybody else can get that smoke. Ellie, I feel like. But Cole, you are way too tap-dance and no.

He told us he was Muhammad Ali. You did a mom? You think that Jay Cole could go after any rapper unless somebody of that's his superior. If like a Nas or Jay-Z shot at him, yes, he could reply. Jay-Cole, and I'm not on the drastic side. Mall is of I don't even want to hear a Cole lyric when he's talking greasy. I don't. I'm here for that. I can't wait for the fall off. And if Cole wants to talk greasy on it, whatever. I don't. He cannot go after another rapper ever for the rest of his life.

Unless it's somebody that is his elder and says something first. I don't say he's willing to go after him what I'm trying to say. No, he's not. He showed us he's not. Only Kenji and Cole is a soft spot. His mind. Kendrick is a drink. All right, but who else would go beef? That would look weird if he ever beefed with anyone else with or without this battle. Because I thought the no-name thing was a conversation. I don't think that was a rap battle.

That was bad. He lost that too. I think the little pumpkin. He lost the no-name, digger. First of all, don't do that. First of all, because no name is incredible. No name is one of the better lyricists of this era. And they pieced it up and said that wasn't even a battle. Because he lost.

He called the hell. He lost. Let's talk about it. I think he brought up some points that should have been discussed during that time, but it was such a heightened time on the timeline. No matter what a man said to a woman, it was going to be taken to a whole other level. Absolutely. So I give Cole some grace on that only because no name gave him grace on it.

And they've spoken and it's cool. I think the little pump thing was not a battle. I think he just put that generation in their place. Like, y'all need to relax. I understand that this young generation is. I don't want to see Cole battling little pump. Everybody's not. I think he handled that perfectly.

He won a little pump. He stopped a little pump. Absolutely. That was, let me sit you down and tell you about this game and look where I got him now. So Cole was correct there. Who else would Cole battle besides Kendrick and Drake?

Who would be on his level? And that's why. And that's why I was mad that he did what he did. Because we finally had the moment. He was irate. No, but it was. But you know why? But you know why?

Because if you go back to. Mon was irate. But if you go back to the beginning. If you go back to the beginning, if you go back to the beginning, I said, I don't care if Drake responds or not. Yeah. I want to hear Cole because we never saw Cole in that type of a battle. So I was more interested to see him, his performance,

because he's one of the MCs and the rapists. So when you heard of the record, do you feel it was like half-hearted when he did the record? I felt it was, right? I felt like it was. I'm not going to say. The second bar of the record conducted, that beat was so dope. But it still was like, he wasn't fully like, yo. I'm not going to say it was half-hearted.

But I do remember saying I feel like, this is his, Kendrick, yo, chill, you don't want this problem. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I didn't feel like he was gonna delete and apologize, but I did feel like it was more, I felt like, yo, he got more, he got more steam coming after this,

but this is the like, yo, Kendrick, you sure you want to do this? That's what I felt like that was. I think it was the strategy that Drake thought he was going into with the 20V1, this is my strategy. I think I'm above everybody. I'll go out all 20 of you

because you're coming at me. I think Cole was, here's an EP. I'm focused on my music. Here's six amazing records that have nothing to do with you. At the end, I'll check the temperature. But my music is so much more important than my battle with you. At the time was a perfect strategy. I just gave you six incredible fucking joints.

And I'm talking about the fall off. You want to do your little like that one trick, pony shit. Cole set it up perfectly. Drastically changed within 48 hours. But I think Cole had the best setup, the way Drake thought he was devaluing Kendrick by saying, It takes 20 y'all to come near me. Cole was going the, I'm focused on my album right now.

If you want to shoot real quick, all right, whatever. I'll add that to my already EP that was coming out. Tap, tap, yeah. It just went the other way. But I wouldn't, I get why someone would discredit my delete later. I still have it high on my list because of all the other records. Yeah, it's still one of my favorite projects here. He was going nuts on that.

Yeah. But. You always in North Carolina when it came out. No. Oh, you would have known if I was at Dreamville when that happened. I would have been on somebody's blog. I would have been going fucking crazy in North Carolina.

Like, are you kidding? I flew down here for this shit. I came here because I thought he was going to let the record perform on stage. You kid, Mad City Pop, Blasses and Door Slide. He rot on you, but why you keep, but why you keep

quote, because you been quoting that boss since you walked in here? Why do you? He tweets it like all the hour. Every hour. No, I feel like you, I feel like you, I feel like that's like an underhanded,

like. No, you, you showed out the shit. You legendary MVP. Type run. I knew we were going to get on this, this Drake and cold tangent. So I'm going to get us off and go back to the original conversation. Where's BDOT? Number two.

Number two. He's riding you niggas. I'm going to challenge you to say that artists are still doing sit-down interviews because little baby who we would consider in the hip-hop world probably an A-List artist, sat down with Charlemagne the God and did a one-on-one interview. It still exists. Did he delete? He did he, he did.

He did. He did. Yeah. That's Charlemagne's seven minutes real. I think it shut that shit down, as far as I know. Who shut it down? Charlemagne deleted it? For real?

QC. Yeah. Why? Can we speculate with no information whatsoever? I mean, Charlemagne, who I give credit, asked the questions that the world wanted to know from Little Baby?

That's why I got shut down. But how could QC? That's crazy. I don't even know that. We know Coach and Pete. Right, Pish? Right? Shut down, right?

Coach and Pee are some of the best minds that we have, period. in modern hip hop for sure. They are well aware of what is going to be asked of baby. And even though we get PC Charlemagne now and he's changed his life, he still no matter what Charlemagne the God is going to ask about Gunna and Young Thug. Yeah, but why y'all feel like- Why would you go into an interview and then be mad that someone asked the question?

But they have a problem. Yeah. Listen, don't ask none of this. Like, they would have did that, no? That's the problem. It's like, that's why I'm mad. It's like, yo, like we have to have conversations for real. Like, you're right.

And I think that you put it out. But then it was like, all of a sudden that she went private on YouTube. I'm like, wait, why is it private on YouTube? He shut it down. Okay. Do we think QC shut it down or do we think that thud may have a better relationship with Gunner than we actually think? And he shut it down. Either way, it got shut down.

So where are interviews, man? That's just weird. You know some information right now. I'm not letting you off the hook. What? No, I think I got shut down. I saw it got shut down. I was like, yo.

Matt did he got it. Like, yo, I see it shut down. It's a down. Nobody's weird. It's a light. I was like, yo, it's shut down. Pete knows.

And that's also because I came in here and gave Charlaman's flowers on it. He asked the right questions, but it was only that clip, two clips that went around. Yeah, I think he felt like that's not a Charlottomaine thing. Yeah.

Because I don't think, I mean, Beatty's proven for most of his career. Like he doesn't want to be interviews. Because Yadi's like the home team, his homeboy. So he had the Yadi interview. Okay, that's cool.

Which was much better than the show. Yeah. Exactly. So the Yadda was like, yo, that's cool. The vibes that's cool. But talking to him and like, woo, I don't like the reactions to that. Like, nah, fuck that. But you see the comfortability level in Little Baby sitting with Charlamagne versus sitting with Yadi? Exactly. He seemed more comfortable with Yadi. He seemed more willing to talk about certain things. It's always my goal. I want to make somebody feel comfortable to have a conversation. That's the whole point, right? It's important. But it's lost now because it's like, yo, everybody's the opposite and shit. Like, yo, can't talk to someone. somebody, then he ops. Like, wait, what?

Yeah, but also you guys, as journalists in the past, had it a bit safer that you had to put out a few articles per month. We have to talk every single day and have opinions. Every single day, it's set up for us to eventually say something that an artist isn't going to like. Exactly. Whereas journalism coming out once a month, you could focus, yo, my piece, this week is just on TI, just going to focus on that. You don't have to have an opinion for every last fucking thing that happened.

with every artist's life. So it's set up for artists to be pissed at us and they live on the internet whereas outside of Jay and I read a magazine One clip where Roy's talking crazy Like boom The amount of artists that I've spoke highly of

For five, six, seven years And I'll say one small little comment And that's the first thing that they DM me or come up to me at first And I'm like, well, you know how much I've supported your fucking career? This year for me was nothing but that. I'm like big ma I didn't like one one while you didn't repeat this year what I know I didn't like

one record and I turned it to the biggest hater I'm like because I didn't like one song yeah like that's just stupid yeah you pot of the year you shoulder on us this year no man I'm just listen man I'm just what's up ma I'm just trying to figure except me MVP trophy man I'm just trying to figure out what the fuck is going on that's all man I you know I'm just I'm just trying to figure shit out that's it all right we're resource the end of the year which means we are down to our last top 10 get-up anthems. Yes. And what do you know it today?

We have West Coast Wilson with us. Perfect time. Perfect timing for this one. So today we're getting into the get-up anthem. Top 10 get-up anthems from L.A. Billboard and tres hanarasiones tequila have teamed up with L.A.'s own D. Smoke, who we are huge fans of, and the game, also who we are huge friends of. Legend.

To bring us to top 10 get-up anthems from L.A. This is a list of some of the songs that get the clubs and that see. certain cities shaking. They're right. So we're going to go through the list. Hopefully game and D. Smoke did not disappoint. We did Atlanta so far. We've done Chicago.

We did Miami as well. Yep. L.A. I'm curious. L.A. probably had the greatest year I've seen in quite some time. Even their soccer team won the fucking... I saw that L.A. Galaxy win last week. I was like, yo, can L.A. stop winning everything. Damn, man.

Soccer too. Well, I can promise you the Lakers won't be winning out of a bit. Yes. The latest will not be winning shit. So yes, 2024 was good to the West Coast. So let's start at number one. It was a good day. Ice Cube. Can't really argue that.

I kind of, I filled them. You want to go from 1 to 10 or 10 to 1? Go 10 to 1. All right. Yeah, we start there. Okay. I just want to get, it was a good day out the way. No hog.

Do we think he got a triple double, is what I'm asking? Who kept score? Who kept stats? Like, who was like that? That time is for Ice Cube. Who was yelling at? And you know what was crazy when we saw Shout out to Ice Cube's son

He's been on tour with Cube And of course Cube performs it was a good day And his son is his hype man And finishes the lyrics and whatever That's got to be a little awkward When it gets to I got a beat from Kim

And she could fuck all night Ah Awkward I'm not with my pop stuff It's not gonna be I'm not finishing the sentence You got a beat from Kathy And she can fuck all night

I'm not finishing Yeah All right so let's start a number 10 We can start at 10 So number 10 So number 10, we have... Go ahead. B-PT by YG.

Okay. BPT. I wouldn't have thought that would make this list, but I'm not mad at that at all. Because I think my crazy life is a classic West Coast album. Yeah. It's left on. It's a modern classic to me, so I'm not mad at that. Did not expect BBT to be on this list whatsoever with what the West Coast has.

I agree. I like it. I like it a lot. Number nine, I expected to be a little higher, but that's just my age talking. Regulate Warren G featuring Nate Dole. That's a little weird at 9. I expected that to be a little higher than that. Number eight, we can freak it, corrupt.

I am not a resident of the West Coast, but we have to go to our judges. Should he be on the Get Up Philly anthems or the L.A. one? We can reason more West Coast Bob, though. You got to admit it. No, corrupt is. I mean, I get it, but that's West Coast. Corrupt is West.

For sure. I'm not mad at that. I'm glad Corrupt was represented on. Philly Brad, but he adapted. Absolutely. Number seven, I expected to be a lot higher as well. Same. Nothing but a G thing.

Dr. Dre featuring. You, number seven? That could have been number one for me. That definitely could have been number one. Number six, last time that I checked, Nipsey Hustle-Y. I think that belongs on. Especially for modern West Coast shit. Number five, I think belongs here and not like us.

Kendrick Lamar for top five get-up anthems for sure. Number four, still Dre. I think that more of my era, but I still think that's crazier that that's over nothing. but a jeep thing. One of my favorite beats ever, but that's still wild to me. Yeah. Then from here on out, I think it's just all Dr. Dre. California love it.

Tupac and Dr. Dre. Number two, Jen and Juice, Snoop Dog. And then at number one, we have. It was a good day. Ice Q. I feel like they, I see what they tried to do. They tried to include Nipsey and YG, which I get. They should be there.

But there's a huge gap. And maybe this was the first time game was humble. I think hated or love it could be up here. For sure. I think what we do could be up here. There's a bunch of game records that I feel could be on this list. And even Killer Mike put himself on the Atlanta list. A lot of this, I feel like, pulls from almost the same era.

Or they spread it out with as many Dr. Dre produced songs as they fucking could. I don't know if it was a good day is number one, though. It's on the list. G thing is number one. But not over G thing, yeah. Yeah. But it's on the list. It was a good day.

It's definitely on a top 10 L.A. list for sure. G-things, feel like the one. I mean, I know they didn't want to make this a complete Dr. Dre list, but how the fuck is fuck the police or straight out of Compton, not on a top 10 L.A. list. That's not insane. Well, that's a different anthem.

That's not a get-up. Crazy motherfucker name Ice Cube. You don't think fuck the police was a get-up anthem and. Oh, no. It was a get-up. In Los Angeles. It was a get-up and get-out. It was a get-out.

It was a get-out. It's time to get out of here. Absolutely. Get up and get out. Get up and get out. I'm just looking through other lists too. DJ Quick isn't on there, which I think is a little crazy. Tonight.

I'm a nerd, so I think Farside running or passing me by could have made this. For sure. That's not L.A., though. They're from the Bay, right? Far Side from the Bay? Yeah, that's Bay. Oh, my Bay. I think they're from the Bay.

Okay, well, not like us as a Bay sound, so. Poison is a Bay. Points have been made I don't know I just feel like the era Well so is the mission LA or the Bay The Bay too

Yeah I think they're Bay as well It might be the Bay Affie to Infinity No Cypress Hill I think is kind of crazy That's still LA That's get up anthem shit to me

That's definitely get a band They play that at every fucking basketball game When they go to towels When they throw the t-shirts In the stands Kill the Man It's always

How do you kill it man Yeah When they're doing the towels That's crazy This show my nerd is above the log definitely has some joints that could make like Superman for sure but rory it's only 10 like i know but i feel like they could yeah he on number 23 right now right okay we try to get your yes this is probably accurate as far as the real top 10 but with the other cities like the

miami one for example i love that they put they represented every sound an era of miami in their list this to me is is one one era plus not like us and last time that I checked. Okay. It's mustard and dray, which is cool, but I think there's more West Coast shit in there. Oh, I mean, the list can go more. We're going to curate it a little more diverse.

I think half the documentary can make this list. Yeah, no, I mean, I definitely feel like a game record should be on here for sure. But, you know, the game was being humble and just, you know, paying respect to the guys that he was in full. So why is the game like the most underrated of that shit? It's crazy, right?

I think game is probably one of the best rap discographies ever. But he's the most underrated in that era. It's crazy when you think about it, right? You think he's underrated? Absolutely. He knows he is. But he also didn't have like an era to stand with. It was just him and him alone. At least with

he was the nigga before Kendrick. He was the king before Kendrick. Absolutely. What YG was doing with Thai and mustard and Tracheo and TD. There was just so much going on in the West Coast at that time they could work. It was just game and Spider Loak at that time.

No disrespect to Spider-Loke. G&A put out a lot of great joints. Rupertural Ships was the rolling 60s. You're telling us to wrap it up. My bad. I thought she was throwing up neighborhood. My bad. Neighborhood.

And I'm only going to do this because, you know, West Coast Wilson, 405 radar is in the building. 405 radar. Billboard, I've loved all these lists. I think you picked the best people to put these lists together for their city. I've appreciated this entire series. I think it's a little ironic that everyone's a little scared to do this. the New York list. Hey!

They're scared? I understand it's been a long time since we've been, you know, number one. But let's not forget about 25 years. The New York list isn't going to be the same seven artists for one through 10. Not, not at all. No. What's up? What would you, can you think of like your first top three in New York?

Shook ones, nigga. Juicy, number one. Juicy to me is the number one rap song ever. Shook ones. 1A1B I would never be mad but shook ones would be two to me it depends on where I'm at

if a alien If there's a lot of women in the room We gotta go with juice In in 20205 When the aliens Show themselves from the sea, land and air And they ask what is rap music Even though they've been listening

They have Spotify accounts Shook ones is New York I'm playing them notorious BIG Juicing It defines hip up If the aliens If the aliens showed themselves In 2025

The first alien that come up out of that war I want the first thing that nigga here to be To all the killers in the $100 billers Shook ones For You think those drums are scaling They're number one They got lasers

Absolutely They're scared of aliens Play the Shook ones for the area Yeah absolutely It's us But do you think of Shook Up ones When you think Get Up Anthem? Hell yeah

Yes Yeah I just change and like Move right in the club Quiet Storm got to be on there Yes Yeah That's now that I'm like

Kululukkah, Kim, look at himself out. I'm thinking, like. Okay, knock yourself out. Yeah, like, get up. Like, the things that are going to get the women up moving, the men up moving, like, not just y'all rapping madhouse. I think this still wins the way. DMX, get at me, dog, even gets the women.

Shook ones feels New York without the girl element. Like, no disrespect. But I feel like, yo, shook ones is like, you talk about New York? That's the anthem. That is the anthem. I mean, I'm kind of contradicting my point here because I think top three could have juicy and all about the Benjamins. All about the Benjamins too.

Benjamin's that. Could be in the top three. But that brings the girls to the party. It's like Benjamin's pop. Come in, bo, boom, bo, boom,

DMX party up, definitely. Party up is probably good. No. That may make like a top. No. 30. That's white people.

That's white people. That's not white people. We made it so popular that if you came, Tomiller with white people. No. That's TRL. No,

but that's true. You got, you got it's because DMA is so popular. DMA. D.M. What's on? Party up was.

Carson Daly And there was X was when Even though DMX had his Nah 90 year Up in here Up in here

No And there was X was when White people Really started to love Yeah party up It's DRL The first two rap albums That were given to me

By my mom That I asked her by Was volume three And there was X She's young I love her And that was because You know

The whites Exactly I liked party up And big pimping The edited version I didn't even know What Hove was talking about on Big Pippin

I was 11 You know this is my baby That's not culture. I was nine. No, because when it comes to party up, I feel like it doesn't get the respect it deserves because it became so big and it became a mainstream. That's what I'm saying.

It became a character of itself. It was this white boy pop crossover moment. If you guys didn't hear it everywhere, you wouldn't feel that way like, oh yeah, it's just played. Like, no, you wouldn't feel that way if it was a B-side. You would never feel that way. Of course not, but it became such a caricature of DMX. It was in a bunch of action movies.

Like, it just became... It became the cool thing for White Boy to, like, embrace DMX as he's the guy. But it doesn't make it any less good of a song. That's fair. And it's not even a pop. It's not like it's a pop whitewash song. It's actually a very vulgar and like crazy at his song.

It's a very gangster song. Like, just fuck the chorus. DMX did make that thinking this will be in Mission Impossible too. He just made it because he's DMX. It just happened to cross over. But I mean, Tom Cruise can kill shit. I feel like shout out to young jock. But when Tom Cruise did this shit on Oprah, it was over for that.

It was done. We was not going down after he stood on that Oprah couch. What was it going down, Ross? Because in Tropic Thunder that's a classic scene when he played that

in Tropic Thunder and start dancing in the office. Don't do that. We're not doing that. We're not doing that. Don't disrespect Tom Cruise. No, Tropic Thunder is a classic. Yeah.

But him rolling around on Oprah's couch and then doing it is going down. Well, that's where it came from. It came from the movies. It came from the movie. That's all. Well, anyway,

shout out to Billboard and Threats Henada Tequila for their top 10 get-up anthems of 24. Yes, and before we get out here, we do want to thank West Coast Wilson. West Coast Wilson. Happy New Year,

Ellie Wilson Experience, January 7th. Yes, that's a lot of great guests. Once again, yo, 2025, my brothers, y'all did your thing, man. Thank you, man. Thank you. We really appreciate that. We do know, but thank you. Thank you. That means a lot. No, but you don't get it.

Thank you, man. We appreciate it. And hope to have you back in 2025 to promote some more shit. Yeah. And I mean, if you want to have us on the L.A. Wilson experience, we'll go to the Bronx. Yeah, let's do it in the Bronx. Let's do it at the Yankees Stadium. I'm not scared of that. All right.

So good. Let's walk through Woodside. See, if you're still good. Now, let's go on the West Coast. I'm always going to Woodside, digger. You know, d'all, d'all, d'nick. Thank you. You.

Why is sneaky? Me, man. We appreciate. Irish sneaky-ass. We just, I mean, we'll have you back in Queens. I'm sorry. It just feel like you left us. That's all.

My projects? You're not good in my projects? You feel like you went on like a Vincent Chase. I don't know, man. You're feeling very Vincent Chase. No, Ma, what's up? I'm just saying the boy might have put some money in the projects for you, you might not be able to go home.

The word spread that a Bugatti is in the projects? Yeah, you know what I'm saying? The boy's home. The boy's home. We let him get a lot of lines off. Elliot, we thank you so much for pulling up on us, man. Appreciate you. Much love.

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