New Rory & MAL - Episode 334 | Fighting Irish

Episode Date: January 7, 2025

We’re back, fresh off of public transportation because who the f&!# is paying NYC congestion pricing?! In this economy?! After Rory gives us a brief recap of going out to twirl his cane for his frat’s founders day, we get into the controversy that’s been running the internet all weekend - Joy Taylor, Skip Bayless, and the lawsuit against FS1 (14:14). Some things we believe, some we don’t, and some we can’t seem to agree on. Liangelo Ball has a viral song on his hands, so if you’ve heard our Patreon episode from yesterday, it seems Rory ACTUALLY deserves some flowers this time (48:45). Speaking of viral songs, Drake is back in the headlines and back in (some of) our hearts after a planned leak of a song he had seemingly dissing Drake has surfaced online (55:40). The team gives their honest opinions, does a slight lyric breakdown, and has some theories on who else might have caught a stray. Unlike Drake, Kanye isn’t standing on business in his beef with Kai Cenat, which seems to have been solved with a post alluding to a rollout for a new project (1:22:50). Mal is standing on his assumption that it will be AI, and the team is split on whether AI will ruin music and whether Kanye will be the artist to spearhead that. Lil Baby’s album isn’t exactly garnering rave reviews - and the NRM cast is not here to disagree (1:38:00). Do you agree with them that this was Lil’ Baby’s last chance to dial up his relevancy again? Also discussed: a blatant post from Gunna’s lawyer claiming his innocence (1:53:15), a rapper/idiot almost shooting himself and a podcast team (1:58:20), two voicemails asking for our advice on instances where the women are putting the men to shame (2:05:04), + more!For MORE Rory & Mal, make sure you subscribe to our Patreon community, for exclusive episodes, first access to tickets and merch sales, private live chats with the team, + more! https://www.patreon.com/newrorynmalFollow Rory: @ThisIsRoryFollow MAL: @MAL_ByTheWayFollow Demaris on YT: https://www.youtube.com/@DemarisG To watch the podcast on YouTube: https://bit.ly/NewRoryAndMALYouTube Don’t forget to follow the podcast for free wherever you're listening or by using this link: https://bit.ly/NewRoryAndMAL Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoicesSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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I might swerp and I'm a twerking this bitch, I let your shit go. And I heard that she want to show me who she'd be. I'm kind of fucking with it. Show me some moat. Bitch, we tag the head to talk her. Give a fuck the story wrote. You want to tweak it over me and I'm going to show you

how that go. Like the money in my pocket is no. Welcome back. top of the week, I guess the first official Monday, working Monday of 2025 for everyone else. Yeah. Saw everyone on their IG stories saying, damn, back to work. And I was like, shit, I mean, we recorded through the entire holiday. Yes, feels good to be back. So this is just a regular Monday for us.

I didn't feel it at all. Just was, you know. Well, I mean, in New York area, it's a little snowy. A little snowy Monday. Yeah, it was cute snow too. Yeah. I like snow. Yeah.

Some snow, man. Congestion pricing happened at the same time. Oh, yeah. It's wonderful time to be a New Yorker, isn't it? No, it's not. Snow, pay more money to get into the snow and the traffic, then sit in the traffic, then pay $500 from parking. Listen, we don't have to get too much into it because I guess it is local,

but I have seen it all over the news no matter where the fuck you're at, because we're the first city implementing this congestion pricing thing. For those that don't know, it already costs to go from Jersey to New York for like $21, bucks adding another nine to that all the bridges that never had a toll now have a toll this is fucking nuts it's a money grab today yes the streets were a little lighter with traffic coming in but i don't think it's really going to change i think traffic's going to be the same traffic still this is just a money grab i don't think they're going to fix anything with mTA so right now it's either you pay fucking 30 to come into the city or you get burned alive on the end train yeah whatever you like but have no fear

cops are on their phones the big don is back he's coming back soon i think this will only last a month we won't see this anymore uh trump did say he would get rid of it but i was reading an article that said it's not that easy the president doesn't have as much authority on this as one would think but i would love for him to get rid of it um with that said happy birthday to maul we were going to get you a cake, but, you know, we ran out of time and we spent it on the tolls. But happy January 6th to you. Yes. Like your second birthday. Yes. Your rebirth to the stars and stripes. The Democrats threw a party and a surprise party for us. The tea party. So yeah, technically, I guess with your rebirth, you're four years old. Yes. Yes. It's my fourth birthday. Yes, absolutely. After your

rebirth? Yes. Born again? Mm-hmm. When you got your first communion, right on those steps. A lot happened. Yeah, a lot did happen. Also, happy Founders Day to all the good brothers of Cap Alpha Sive Fraternity Incorporated. It was over the weekend. I even went out on Saturday night. What'd you do? I went to Seic, New Jersey in the hood.

Went to a Founders Day party. Oh, okay. You know, I was partying with women that were born after 9-11. It was great. That sounds terrible. That sounds like a terrible point. No, it was mainly like the area that I was in was my era. But I could see all the younger people.

Yeah. I will say, and shout out to Wala, it was great always to hear Wala. DJ Wala? My guy. The young kids still kind of party to our music. I was like excited. I was like, all right, I know there's going to be half young people and then half of the O'Heads. But I'll get to experience what music plays outside because I don't go out very often.

And what I do, it's the spots of my age that's playing all about the Benjamins for 10 minutes straight. They listen to the same music as us. They're supposed to. Their era has no classic records. No, they got drill. They got a few drill records that's classic records. It wasn't really a drill environment. I mean, there was definitely some people in there that would drill you.

And they didn't pat anyone down. So I'm glad that while I kept it like fun and light. More R&B. Yes. Sexy drill. Yeah, Casco Bain all night. But it was a good time. I was just disappointed that I didn't get like the full young kid experience of their music.

I mean, I even tried to listen to a baby's album on the way there to get in the mind state, which we'll get to. Am I allowed to go to the Founders Day party? Of course, yeah. Oh, okay. I thought it was... I mean, you'd have to pay. I have to pay to get in? Yeah.

Okay. All right. Also, it was like... This is going to sound a little elitist, but it was nice to go to a party, like, in the hood. Bottles were like $125. I was like, oh, let's go crazy. Yeah. Oh, yeah.

You see $125. Yeah, yeah. We need five... Oh, you ran out? Gotcha. Yeah, I'll get the next three. It's all good. Yeah, that was great.

But it was cool. I think bottle girls of the younger age are a little bit more aggressive than No, younger girls are more aggressive. Yeah, they're really forward. Yeah. And they don't really take no for an answer. No, they let you know. They need a bill paid immediately.

Yeah, absolutely. And I don't know if it was just weird coincidence. The only other white person in there ended up being my father's closest childhood friend's daughter. Very odd. That's not weird to you? It was weird as fuck to me. How does she look?

Like her dad. No, she's pretty, but. but she's red hair and white. You think that's like my staff? Yeah, that's definitely off your menu. Everyone thought that was like actually my sister. And I was like, funny you ask, like, we're technically like have some relation. We're cousins.

Like I called her dad uncle my whole life. I think I met her once. She said she had been to my house before. I was like, wow, this is very odd of the only two white people that are here. Yeah. I thought it was, you know, one of those moments you know you're in the right place. Black people love collecting redheads. Hmm?

Collect people like collecting redheads. Black people like Pokemon? Yeah. They like them. I don't know why. Mm-hmm. They like redheads. A lot of redheads do just.

Why are you saying they like you're not a black woman? Because I don't collect reds. But you said black people. Where would you keep them if you did? Like in your basement or? No, on a podcast set. We don't really need much light, so. Yeah, you like, and not a thing about it, y'all like gremlins.

Can't eat after midnight. Can't get wet. Are you kidding? Where did you land? I ate after midnight on Saturday. Yeah, redheads are like grimlins. man. Definitely ran into

some ghosts of pussy past but like college. How's she look? Better. I love that. I love when they look better. When you crush them and break their heart and they come back stronger, it's like, oh, you little Voltron you.

What the fuck is wrong with you? I love the little Voltron. I love when you crush them and then they come back and they glowed up. Like, see, then you're welcome. That's what you guys say you're welcome. She was cool and it was a cool interaction. I got the which was fine, because I wasn't trying anything, that she was in a full-blown relation.

I could just tell by body language. And it just, but it reminded me of just like the dummy missions I used to do. She lived in Philly and I would drive at like if this sounds so, so bad. I'm a completely different person. Like if I didn't get any pussy at Rutgers for weekend, I was driving at 3 a.m. down route one to Philly and get there at like 4.35 in the morning. That's when there's some good, good though. You're doing it, it's fire.

Yeah, that fire had you paying some toes for sure. Yeah, absolutely. Now we ain't got no choice done. And again, it's no matter what in New York. I'm a reformed person. I'm not proud of any of this. I don't think any young men should strive to do this. It just leads to a life of emptiness.

It was my first time I had gotten into a line-sistered love triangle. I had fucked her line sister before. And then, I mean, she was throwing it. So what was a young 19-year-old supposed to do? Fallen line. Yeah. So you're supposed to do? And it ended up in the same apartment once.

And yeah, it was messy. Yeah. I hope they've recovered because I'm not worth a lifetime bond to break up. I love hearing your stories of driving to Philly. That's rookie shit. I drove all the way to Montreal. With no passport. Yeah, no, yeah.

Come on. They know me at the border. Let me through here, man. I'm turning right around. I'm here for 24 hours and I'm out of it. It's nasty, though, at 3 a.m. to drive to Philly for some pussy. And then leave, like, 10 a.m.

That's what time we left to go to Montreal. It was a phone conversation. At least I could stay horny for an hour on that drive. You had like nine hours to be like, yo, I could just go beat off. It's six and a half. It's not that bad. Six and a half is crazy. That's so what that head is.

No, it had up six times three because you went there and back. And went back up. Yeah. Yeah. Six and a half is crazy, Ma. When you young, no, baby, dude, you ain't really got shit to do on a random, like, you know what I mean? How young were you, Mo? Probably like 23, maybe.

Oh, okay. I thought that was, like, a couple years ago. Like, like, 10 years. I thought it was like 10 years ago. No, no, no, no. I was in my young 20s. That's when I was just doing stupid shit. Oh, wow.

Yeah. Him doing that now and not flying would be alert. Yeah, I'm about saying now. I'm like, come on, no. Put me on the flight. Hour and a half. I think the farthest side. I went from Brooklyn to the Bronx.

That's so, that's a public transportation though. I do that on a Tuesday. Yeah. Like, what baby did you time went from Brooklyn to the Bronx? What? That's a regular trip. Maybe you don't even want to go to. I feel like Queens to Jersey is a long distance relationship.

Yeah, for sure. For sure. A couple trains. And if you don't have like Long Island Railroad money, now that's a trip. Yeah. Taking the A to the path, like you have to have some fire. What about going up to like Connecticut and like, I've done that. Connecticut?

Connecticut's not that far though. Yeah, but that's still like two hours. It's like a two hour drive. You put out some good me. You put out a good playlist. Oh, yeah. Get you warmed up, blood hot on the way. Oh, not the phone.

Flirt the whole way. Start letting her know which exit you passing. Like, yo, I just passed 76. You know what I'm an hour in 10 and I'll be there. Like, what you doing? Cooked? All right, then. Like, you know what I'm saying?

You getting your shit off the Uber driver looking back? Like, get this horny kid out of my fucking back. Now you can share the low. Share in the low so she know exactly when to get in the shower. I know, I know you would fly out champ. You know, ball. What's the longest you've ever put a girl in an Uber to your house? The longest, probably from Philly.

I think Philly's the longest half. Yeah. Which is surprisingly not as expensive as you thought. It's not. It's not. That was actually a bad thing to find out. Because then I was like, all right, well, the Philly Ross, they could be up here in an hour. It's just like 300 bucks.

And it was gangster because the Uber driver, he had family in New York. So I just kicked it with him like, yo, you mean tomorrow, she's going to leave the same time, take her back. I won't use the app. I'm saying, straight up cash. Because whatever it's say on the app, the drivers don't get that full of them. They only get like 60% of that maybe. So you know what I'm saying? So I was like, yo, he was like, no problem.

He went to his cousin house, gave me his number. He stayed in New York for the day. Next day, picked the right up, took it right back to Philly. Yeah. Our friend Brittany is the queen of that. If we get an SUV, she'll talk to the driver and be like, what do you need to make tonight. We're going to four spots.

And then she'll just, we'll have a private driver. Yeah, that's it. More cheaper than what it would have been. Absolutely. That's the way to go. Founcing around a different way to do it. That's the way to do it. Did you guys do anything over the weekend?

Celebrate Founders Day. I know everyone was really excited. No, I didn't celebrate. 14 years of achievement. I didn't celebrate Founders Day, but I found like $400 in one of my jackets. Oh, shit. I guess it is Founders Day for me. I was going through some coats and stuff getting rid of.

Went in one of my pockets. It was $400. It was like, oh. Fuck, $20. I found $400 in the coat. Wear my sweatshirt that you told me you was going to give me not of this out the dry cleaner. I didn't pick it up.

It's in the cleaners. I got you. You just wore it. It ain't in the, stop lying. He's definitely lying. I put it in the cleaners after I wore it. You wanted it to smell like me, baby.

I didn't want to get you in no trouble with you. You know what I'm, you know what I'm just saying. Don't piss me. Don't piss me off. I'm just saying my cologna's all over it. My deodorant is in the arms and all of that. Like, I ain't.

Nobody to smell it, my love. Nobody to smell it. All right. You know what I'm saying? I've given DeMara's sweatpants before, like great sweatpants that she wears often. Would you feel away as, as baby these man? Yes. I never thought about that until just now.

Yeah. You went another nigga sweats. Like his balls and all that was in there and that. No, I think you took the tags off it. I don't think I ever wore it, but they wore mine. Are they brand new? No, you wore both of those pairs. You didn't wear them often, but you would.

I got a bunch of Roryish. Half my closet is Rory shit. But you do know I wear drawers. Like, I wasn't free, like my balls weren't off. I don't know that. Those could have been the in-the-house joints that you throw on as soon as you get out the bed. No, I'm never getting those up. Yeah.

No, I got a pair of your John Elliott basketball shorts that I'm pretty sure that you didn't wear draws with. Which ones? They're like a camo green. Don't say you want them. I've been looking for those. No, they're good at that. They're good at that. They look like the redneck joints, right?

Yeah. Like if I wear them, it's crazy. But if you wear them, it's fashionable. Yeah. You widows around your booze, like stuff that you get from guys. I've definitely had dudes say, oh, these ain't mine. And I'm like, not dude, it's my ex. He's like, these ain't mine.

I'm just like, they're Rory's. And he, like, he knows. I used to basically damn there live at Rory's house. So I had a bunch of Rory's shit. Yeah, he's an understanding guy. He's a good guy. That is kind of understanding. Yeah, that's my understanding shit right there.

Does that work? I'm crashing out. In reverse? No. What if, what if, Damaris gave me like a big teeth? Like one of her sleep teeth? First of all, if you could fit one of the Maris's big teas? Girls have really big t-shirts.

That they sleep in. That they got from another. guy. So now you went another guy. No. I tried to give a guy a giant's like practice shirt. Like it was like a giant's practice like long sleep shirt. You gave a guy a giant? I tried to give him my, it was, I had a giant's practice shirt. And I tried to give it to him to sleep. But you don't play for the Giants. Nah. You want to, you can't go further or you just going to leave right there now. I've told you my cousin plays for the giant. Oh, okay, okay, okay, okay. That's different. That's your cousin play for him. That's different. All right. Because black people use cousins so loosely, I'd have to see your 23 in me. Is that your real cousin? That's true. He got a point. The white boy got a point. He got a point.

Do y'all have the same grandmother? First cousin. Same grandmother. I need to see y'all to cook out something. Like, we ain't just saying that's cousins, not. Yeah. Half cousin. I know how that can get.

So I would need to really see the paperwork on that. I don't know. Do you think Joy Taylor ever showed up with one of Skips's like blazers on? Please. Blazers. Where would she be showing up to with one of Skips's Flayers? With Skips fucking Jordan One's on? Damn.

Yeah. It was a nasty weekend. Y'all was on the timeline this weekend going crazy on joy, man. Yeah, every single time I think I'm extremely manly and don't care about gossip, something like this breaks, and then I turn into a little schoolgirl and sit Indian style on my couch and giggle. I try. And I call it tea. Yeah.

I tried to. What's tea? I tried to ignore it. No, you did. I did. This mess was too much fun. I tried to ignore it, but y'all are getting too good with the memes. Y'all are getting too good with the Photoshop, the AI.

It was very entertaining. I mean, I'm sure most people listening to this have heard about it, but we will give some backstory. Can we get the actual woman's name that filed the suit? Yeah, gotcha. I'll just say Ms. Faragey, so I don't screw up her first name. I don't want to be disrespectful. She filed a lawsuit against Fox Sports, basically for sexual harassment against Skip Bayliss, but there was also a lot more gossip in tea that was involved in this entire lawsuit.

So Joy Taylor, who we know was, I get mediator, you would call one of the hosts on FS1, she became close friends with Ms. Farage. She had just moved from Miami to L.A. to try to get more time on Fox Sports. Ms. Faragey was one of the hairdressers, I believe, right? Yeah, she was Joy's personal hairdresser too. So Joy Taylor was married, her husband stayed in Miami. She was just trying to find her community, her tribe. So her and Mrs. Farage got really cool, started to go out for drugs.

drinks, you know, just became work friends. Then Joy started to bring like, you know, just some older guy around that was always paying for the drinks, but that, why not? Always need that guy. We all know one. Get the dirty martinis or whatever they said in there. They were very specific of what he was ordering. He would come around.

And, you know, sometimes you get that body language shit of like, oh, they're definitely fucking. Like, y'all are giggling too much with each other. Needs are too close. The more we drink, the closer y'all get and y'all leave together. This is weird. But wasn't judging her. She's married, but cool, whatever.

That's her life. Now, Ms. Faragey, like a year later, is in the office and runs into this gentleman in the elevator. It was like, yo, you know that old guy that always buys us margaritas? I just seen them. And she was like, chill. That is the head of content at Fox Sports. Now, in the midst of this, both Joy and what's Dixon, Charles Dixon? Charles Dixon?

Yeah. Head of content. Both people are married here. So I guess everyone has something to lose. I guess that's a good affair. I'm not here to judge. he suggests to skip when they start the skipping Shannon Sharp Show that she should be the moderator. She has no real experience whatsoever.

She's a bartender and did a few clips on FS1. Since they were fucking, he did what most people that love madmen do. Just give the chick that you're fucking the biggest role for the new show with no real credibility whatsoever. You know what that mean. Joy was in there turning him out. So I'm actually not quite sure why this is even specifically. in this lawsuit because it kind of has nothing, it's wrong, but it has nothing to do with the sexual harassment.

Skip is the real nasty accuser here. And again, this is all alleged. Skip was trying to sleep with the hairdresser. He walked up to her, grabbed her ass one time. Skip was handy? Joy Taylor said, yo, just let that shit go. And I believe Mr. Dixon grabbed her ass. But Skip had offered her, what was it, $1.5 million to fuck?

Stop right there, Roy. Skip Bayliss. What camera on that for you just skip? Camera two. Skip. Ain't no pussy worth $1.5 million. Let's just be, come on. Like, I get it.

You got it. You got it to give. But 1.5 million? Listen. See, that's what's wrong. The inflation on pussy is out of control. If I'm making $8 million, which is incredible. $1.5 million is still a lot of fucking money.

Oh, absolutely. For some pussy? Yeah, like, come on, Skip. And again, very attractive woman. Go ahead, DeMerson. So I do want to clarify because, you know, Defend all women, you're not going to, we're not going to play with Joy. Like, oh, Joy had no, she had no experience and nothing like that.

She went to Bayer University in Miami. She was an intern and she produced for a bunch of Miami radio giants before land in the position as co-host of 104.3 FM 790s, the ticket, Zaslow and Joy Show. She worked as a host of Thursday night live and fantasy football today on CBS Sports before she even moved to LA for FS1. So let's not just say that she had no experience. I will reword it to make you and the feminists feel better. They were suggesting that, yes, of course, she moved from Miami to L.A. to work in sports. Before she had even met that guy, she was qualified to at least have a position within sports media and was working radio and also being a bartender. I respect the hustle.

And she grew up around the game of her brother's a Hall of Fame. I'm not saying she was just some random chick off the street. But everyone including Skip Bayliss was suggesting that she didn't have the experience for that exact role yet. Not that she didn't have any, but she wasn't the one that should have stepped in, Especially that Skip and Shannon announcement was like one of the biggest announcement. There were people at the network that probably were due up for that. Yeah. And suggested in this paperwork that Charles Dixon had asked Skip,

can you do this favor for me to put her on? So that's where people were like, all right, she's not, there's a million other people we could have hired in this position. This is a little funny. But let's not act like that hasn't happened a million fucking times. Within every industry, not just entertainment. Also it doesn't hurt that she is gorgeous. Yeah, for sure.

And I never minded her on the show But you're looking at me like that for But you could tell Did you guys watch that show? The game? Yeah, I saw it. You could tell Skip didn't like that girl up there. He always kind of gave her a little look

And an attitude more than he ever had With Molly or anyone else. Like, you could tell Skip did not want that girl there. Yeah, I thought it was from the rip. I thought it to Skip was gay. So what's funny that you say that? When all this came out, before I read anything, the first thought I had was, is someone exposing Skip Bayliss for being gay?

That was the first thing I thought. I was like, oh, finally, you could live his truth. Yeah, I always thought Skip was gay. And I'm not saying gay people are creeps, but he was either gay or a creep. Separate, but he, no selfies with a shirt off. When you're gay and a creep, oh, man. You're a hero. That's freedom.

That's called being free. So Skip allegedly, he claims that Joy Taylor went, was even trying to hit on him in the beginning and he turned it down. He was trying to offer the hairdresser 1.5 million a fuck and then came on to her. But why skips, why he, what's the 1.5? Like, how did he land on that? I mean, I talked to his accountant. What's the most I could spend this month on a big, you know what? You know what? You know what? You know any big purchases I should know about at the top of the month so I could balance out your checkbook? One point landing on the world. I'm actually trying to purchase some pussy for 1.5 million. And how do you write them? First of all, this is how poor I am.

in relation to this entire thing. How do you send a woman $1.5 million? Well, it's installments. You send a wire out. But at some point, like... And you got to make sure you do it at the top of the year, so, you know, file taxes on that, should get the whole year to kind of...

I know a lot of business managers and accountants are used to having discretion and not asking about certain things because they know more about you than your own partner of your purchases. Like, they know when that probiller.com comes up. They know what time it is with that. They see what you've cashed app.

They know a lot. and don't ask questions when they don't need to. Not their job. They're just there to make sure you pay your taxes. If I put $1.5 million in installments to a girl, Loyon's asking me what the fuck is that? Oh, yeah, but you have to. Yeah, but you need to see it.

And you need to see it. I know. No, I'm saying I wouldn't even know how to send that type of money to a girl. Like, even sending my mom money is an $100 installments. It ain't no box out here worth $1.5 million. I don't care what you're talking. And at that point,

you have to like hire her, right? You can't just off the whim take that tax. FS1. But that's not coming out of Skip's. FS1 was paying her. Skip wasn't paying her. It probably worked it out

in his contract. She was the hairdresser. His hairdresser. That was not coming from Skip Baylor's LLC. She was working on every other show. She had been there since 2012 before Skip was even there. Yeah, but that's his hairdresser. Now Skip's hair looks great, right?

I guess so, yeah. And now we know why. He came on to her. And she was like, first of all, Skip, you have a wife. And Skip's reply to that is, aren't you Muslim? Your dad probably has three or four wives. And then she did what I guess was the best move in that awkward situation, because I'm sure that was very uncomfortable for her.

She pulled the yo, my dad's dead card and really made the mood weird in the dressing room. Like, have you ever heated someone up about like, you know, oh, when you were a kid, mother joke or whatever? And then they hit you with a big joker. My mom's dead. And you're like, all right, well, you don't know. I'm leaving the lunch room now. So where does Joy Taylor fall in all of this?

So. Because it was alleged that she was saying that she was going to scream sexual harassment or sexual. So one of the things named in the lawsuit is, well, the girl is suing Joy as well because she's basically saying after her friendship with Taylor, with Joy ended, she started losing work. Joy said that she wanted a black stylist, like she requested a black stylist and they slowly started like taking her out of work and then they fired. So now she's ringing the law.

Yes. But one of the things she said that Joy said when it came, she says she, when she was friends with Joy, she warned her, hey, Mr. Dixon, the head of, what Roy said is the head of content for FS1. He has a lot of power. You should be careful with sleeping with him. And allegedly, Joy said, well, I have power too because if he tries to fire me, I'm just going to say that he forced himself out me.

Which is what the girl is saying. Yes. See, that's the part. And we, you know, we want to be respectful to people. that really are in workplaces and, you know, sexual harassment is real and things like sexual assault is real. We understand that. But I have a problem with if you're there and you're experiencing these things and it's a problem, but because you're getting paid, you still deal with it and you don't say nothing. I feel like when you leave, if you get fired, you shouldn't be

able to say nothing either. Why? Why do you feel that? No. That's a crazy take. So you sit in there, so the money makes it, you can deal with it because you're getting a check? People have bills. Wrong is wrong. But again. But again, right is right, wrong as wrong as wrong. If you being sexually harassed at the workplace, I don't care what they're paying you. If you feel like you're not, you don't want to deal with that, okay, then say something why you did. Don't wait till now they're not paying you anymore and you don't work here to now be like, oh, well, you know, I was sexually harassed while I was there. Okay, so why you didn't say something while you was working there? She had said when she was still friends

with Joy Taylor, Ms. Fras, she said, yo, he grabbed my ass and Joy was like, you should just forget about it and move on. A lot of women are put in that position that, one, they won't be believed, and now you have a stain where you can't even get hired anywhere else because you went to HR to talk about sexual assault, and they'll bury it. Like, had she not said anything, we would not know anything about this. Okay, so it's, it's tough for women. Saying something when you leave the, when you're, when you're fired does what? Well, she's just a lawsuit, so she's trying to get money, like, out of it.

So why she couldn't try to get money while she was there? She could have quit while she was there if she was sexually harassed while she was there. Yeah, but quit and pay her bills with what? Gum. Yeah, I'm just not. See, that's, I'm just right as right wrong. If somebody grabs your ass in the workplace, right then and near, that should be a problem. And somebody should be told about it.

Unfortunately, some women are in the mind state that this is just how it goes everywhere. Like, this is just something I have to deal with, which is so fucked up that women would even have to have that mentality that this is going to happen anywhere. It doesn't mean anything. Like, I just have to keep my head down and keep working. Because the moments you say something, where are you going to get hired again? You're the hairdresser that cries sexual harassment. Nobody's hiring you. At this point, now, not only do I have to deal with that, but I was still working, now you're trying to phase me out while sexually harassing me?

Oh, yeah. I'm fucking suing you. Yeah. Listen, I understand it's tough. In certain work environments is a lot on women. I get that. But it's also a thing of if you're being sexually harassed, like no money should come before that. that's just my thoughts on that

I don't go fuck how much money how much money you're making if you're being sexually harassed the money means nothing you keep saying the money means nothing money means something not if somebody's grabbing your ass at the workplace

if you have to pay you know what people deal with to be able to feed their family yeah I do I do every day I walk past them and I talk to some of them I know yeah shit is real

what does that mean okay you're gonna just let your ass get grabbed because you're getting a check go be a fucking stripper if that's the case All right. All right.

If you're going to do with your ass, get a grab point. Look at the two people. If you're going to do what your ass getting grabbed? Look at the two people that were sexually harassing her, allegedly, was Skip Bayliss. We know how powerful Skip is in that world. And then the head of content of Fox Sports. Those are two of the more powerful people in her entire work world. Yeah, she doesn't think that she could just run and be like, yo, Skip said,

I should fuck him because I'm Muslim and it's okay because he's married. Yeah, she's not going to do that. There's two most powerful people in her world, by far. So wait till I get fired and do it. Yeah. Makes no sense to me. Okay. You're also not a woman.

To me, yeah. I'm a man, though, but it makes no sense to me. Okay. Just because I'm getting a check, I'll deal with it. But then I'm not getting a check. Oh, that was wrong. It's wrong whether you get to check and not. It was wrong, but there's a certain, I can't do anything.

Like, you know, actually we've explained it. If you don't get it, you don't make sense to you. It doesn't. It doesn't. It doesn't. It doesn't make sense. No, no. Not that we really care what Jason Whitlock really ever has to say, but he did bring up.

I don't do it. He makes points sometimes. Don't do that. All right. Well, let's define sometimes. But he was suggesting that Shannon Sharp was behind this entire thing. Not to say that what they put Shannon in this. How do they roll Shannon in this? This is, this is Jason's point of view. He's not suggesting that that woman is lying at all. He's just suggesting that Shannon Sharp that we know how. has a grudge with Skip. It was a bad fallout with that. Weird fallout with FS1. That was the whole thing. That this is Shannon's way of getting his get back at everybody he had an issue with. The head of content, Skip, everyone named in this lawsuit does have some issue with Shannon Sharp. Now, I do not believe that Shannon Sharp and this woman like, you know, got together to try to take everyone down. But it is an interesting theory that he brings up. This is Shannon's way of doing that.

So he thinks that Shannon is the one that's blowing the whistle on this whole thing. That Shannon Sharp and this woman, because she says good things about Shannon in the paperwork. Like he was fine. He didn't do anything. Which Shannon Sharp, outside of him fake fucking on Instagram and all that. Again, we don't know these people. But Shannon doesn't really come off as a creep to me. I think Shannon being pretty honest about his personal life and not being in relationships. I don't think he's in the workplace.

I think he has plenty of pussy outside the workplace and is not trying to fuck the hairdresser. Also, he doesn't have hair. Probably didn't see her. Who doesn't have hair? I mean, it's a little bit there. Shannon? Shannon has hair.

What are you talking about? For a hairdresser? No, I think a barber comes to him and shapes up. I mean, I don't call it a hairdresser, but Shannon Sharp ain't bald. He has hair. Not for a hairdresser, though. What's he style?

She could brush it. She could brush it and spray some sheen on it. You know, get him glowing for the set. While he's spoken of black a mile, you know? Where do we think this goes? Does this cripple? FS1, like, this is a huge deal, in my opinion. It is a huge deal.

I don't know if it cripples FS1. It would be interesting to see what ends up happening with joy at the network. What ends up happening with Skip. I could see Skip retiring. He's at that age anyway. I mean, I could, I don't think Skip was planned on being on television many more years after this current contract is up. So I could see Skip stepping away from it all kind of like. Like, you know what?

Like, I'm done. But yeah, we'll have to see. Again, this is just accusations, right? Yeah. Or allegation. There's no, we haven't seen any real proof other than a couple of text messages from Skip, right? No real. Yeah, that's about it.

I mean. Well, Skip is probably guilt because he's married, right? Is Skip Baylor's married? I don't know. I think he is, right? Yeah. He's married, right? So that's probably.

Just a beard in your opinion. So probably just, you know, he's going to go through some shit at home if those text messages just come out. And, you know, he's going to have some questions from the wife. and things like that. It'll mess up his home for sure. But, you know, he didn't, you know, he's a little hands here at work. No, Maul, you can't go up to a hairdresser and ask to fuck her and offer $1.5 million. And when she says you're married, you go, what you Muslim?

All right. What's worse? That. Whatever you're about to say that's bad. What's worse? What's worse? Asking somebody in the workplace, you know, like grabbing their ass or them turning down to 1.5? Both are awful. No, turning down to 1.5 is crazy.

All right. See, Joe, but this goes back to your moral shit of when we argue. If you put a dollar amount to what you will do at this point, we're just negotiating because we know you'll do it. What? You think everyone would fuck for $1.5 million? Because she didn't. If he said 2.5, would you have? I'm just saying, that's why, but that's what I'm saying is crazy. How many women would not fuck if you'd like, I'm going to give you $1.5 million?

How many women? I don't know. Plenty of women. When you're putting, it's skip baitless. It ain't like you saying like. Plenty of women ain't turning down one point four. You just sat here and said they got a job. I feel like you wouldn't turn down one point five.

You'll be putting that shit on women a lot. When we had that same conversation when you tried to convince me that I would fuck LeBron because he would pay me. Not everybody values the same thing that you value. A lot of women ain't turning down $1.5 million. A lot of women will. A lot of women won't, but a lot of women will.

Let's not even make it a gender thing. Y'all just told me she kept the job because she had bills to pay. she's a hair, how much you think she's making a year being a hairstyle? She probably does well for herself. She's been a half a woman. How much do you think she's making a year being a hairstyle? Keeping a job while you're being sexually harassed to pay your bills versus fucking for

1.5 are two completely different things. Yes, they are. So I'm saying you think that a woman that is saying, I want to keep my job. So I'm going to be quiet about being harassed at work. You think that her turning down 1.5 is not crazy? That's crazy for a woman to turn. I'm not saying she's wrong. I'm just saying that's shocking.

Like, damn, she told Skip, nah, I'm like, I'm cool. On the 1.5, that's a lot of fucking money for it just to be fucking some old white dude. Okay. Let's not act like, that's not. That's crazy. It is a lot. It's a lot of. It's a lot of.

It's a lot of. I'm sending the wire in the morning. Or no, I send it right now. But if that's the case, she would just go be an escort if she wanted to fuck for that amount of money. Obviously, that's not what she went into. Obviously, she likes her job. I get that part. I'm just saying I don't know many women that would say, to, to,

1.5 just to fuck one night it's not a lot of women turning that down. Let's just keep it real in 2025, man. Okay. A lot of women does not turn it down 1.5 million dollars. I'm not saying that, but clearly there are some because she turned it down. Oh, of course. I'm not saying all women is taking it. I'm saying that's just if a woman belay, how much you offer 1.5?

Best believe her home girl started another group chat like I don't know. I might have took that. It's another group chat on her phone that she's not in where her girls is having that conversation like 1.5. Not everybody willing to sell their soul for money, ma'am. everybody got a price. All right, let's say you are the stylist on the view.

You're dressing all those old braids in Godspeed. I'm knocking up in my room. And Joy Behar got 1.5 on it. Are you fucking her missionary face to face? How does Joy Behar look? How much you offer me? 1.5. Same price.

It doesn't even matter how she looks. I'm knocking her head off. I'll be honest. I'm fucking Joy Behar for one point. For 1.5, Joy get knocked down. I'm putting Joy through. I might fuck for cheaper 1.5? If Joy put the 1.5 on the table

she's getting fucked on top of the 1.5. I love that Joy Behar is the female skip Bayliss in this situation. Poor Joy. One point five. You, what? I can never go up town if I turn that 1.5. Niggins, I'm like, you did what? You didn't take that? Yo, 1.5? All right, you're married.

Man, listen. We could go on a vacation after that. Barbara Walters? Barbara getting knocked down for one. married though, and you don't have $1.5 million, and then you fuck Joy Behar and get that $1.5. What are you telling your wife of where this lick you just came up from?

Y'all, got hot in the gambler spot. Nigger. I had the hot hand. Please. I had the hot hand. Yeah. I had the hot hand in the gambler spot. We out. I think Skip will end up being fine, and pardon me for just

being such a liberal cuck here. The massaging that Joy Taylor, if this is all true, she's fucked up. But either way, let's say it's not true, she's still fucked. Joy? She's never coming back. There was also that she was fucking a manual to, another co-hosts, like these accusations,

there's no way that woman is going to get back on TV and a company feel okay about it. Just with these allegations of the amount of people she was fucking. Which I think is messed up too. Because we had this conversation off Mike. Skip, I think it'll be just fine. We had this conversation off mic and y'all was saying that, well, she can't get fired because it's just accusations. do we think that they will force her to step down? Yeah.

All right, as long as you're keeping the toll on that. I do think they'll force her to step down. I completely think that. Yeah. And I'm curious if the head of content even makes a statement. Also, if you're Joy Taylor's husband, what are you doing in this situation? Are you making a statement? No, shut the fuck up.

Joy Taylor's married? That's what was so crazy about this entire thing. She moved from Miami. Her husband stayed in Miami. She went to L.A. because she was following her dream. so she started allegedly fucking the head of content while her husband was still in Miami because she was lonely.

They were married for a year. Okay, she's, oh, okay, okay. But Charles Dixon was also married. So it was a safer affair because everyone had something to fucking lose. But the hairdresser said that there was times when Joy and her husband and Charlie Dixon and his wife would go out together,

like at work functions and shit. And she would just watch from a dissing like, Goddale. But, but, Roar, you and I have been around and we know enough people to know none of this is out of. Like, this is the norm. Completely agree with you, but she's on-air talent. This changes everything. Like, yes, this is some office politics, which I've always found very fucking weird. There's so many women and men in the world. Why do you need to fuck someone at work? Right. Insane to me. And, I mean, I guess I get Joyce perspective of it of fucking her way to a great gig,

Like, I fault her because she was married, not because she did it that way. If somebody sees an opportunity to fuck their way to the top, I have at it. I might have fucking judge. People have done sicker shit than fuck their way to the top. So whatever. It's better than fucking your way to the bottom. But your reputation, which I also care. Well, to be honest, at the end of the day, you can really only fuck your way to the bottom when it comes down to it.

Because with all this coming out, I think she's on her way to the bottom. This isn't going to keep her anywhere. Who is Skip Bayless's friends? I don't have them I'm Facebook Because 1.5 1.5 If it come out tomorrow

that Rory That Rory sent the girl a text message saying, yo For the 1.5 You're going to give me some ass I don't have 1.5 to give. I'm just saying if it came out I'm going to feel away.

I'm going to feel like I felt Rory's a friend Because I'm going to be like, though, you know how much For 1.5 we could go to DR You will No disrespect to the hairdresser Ms. Farage. I think she's a.

attractive woman. Very pretty. But if we go to DR, we're going to see 30 of them before we even get to the resort. What can they do hair? 1.5? In DR, you can fuck the entire island. But I think, I think that goes back to the power shit in the office. Like, of course I think Skip could go fine.

Let's not even say an escort. I think Skip could find a woman that looks like that that would just want to fuck him because he has money. That's not rare. I think he did it because it was an office thing. Like, he got off on doing that to an employee. And she kept turning him. down. She also kept turning him down. I don't believe her. Sorry. I don't, I don't believe her. I don't believe he offered a 1.5. I don't believe that. I don't believe he offered a 1.5 million dollars to fuck. Yeah, I'm not believing. I don't believe. Skip it. Now, Skip, now, Skip, now, skip,

Billet was offered her $1.5 million to fuck. Yeah. I'm not rolling with that. Skipping in the game too long. I can see him jokingly say that. Like, I'll pay one point. Because he kept going at her and she kept turning it down. I could see him at one point being like, yo, I eat 1.5. Every day he was walking in the hairstyle's room like, yo, 1.3. And she was like not. So it was like they were bidding. All right. I mean, well, if she was bidding, he ain't get to the two yet. She probably would have folded it at the two. I just, unless you're podcasting and it's a consensual conversation, I don't understand why you're talking about sex with your coworkers.

Nah, I mean, coworkers talk about sex. Not us having sex together, but they talk about sex, though. Skip is a boss in that area. He should be talking about sex to anybody. Oh, no. I get that. I'm just saying coworkers. Come on, bro.

had jobs. You talk to your coworkers about sex. Maybe not about y'all having sex. You shouldn't do that. But we talk about having sex. That's just a natural thing that people that are working together. But you also shouldn't, you shouldn't really do that. Especially if you're a male co-worker, you shouldn't be saying that around your female co-worker. You shouldn't be talking about sex around your female co-worker. Just to be, just to play a safe. Just don't do it. People listen and just don't do it. Because it can't make somebody uncomfortable. Every job I've had, we've talked about sex. I'm just going off again, my, my experience.

Every job I've had, everybody had talked about sex. Not, again, not with each other, but sex came up in the workplace. Like, we're not, come on, we being naive here. What job was that? What job? What job? When I was working at the hospital. Absolutely, as a team.

Well, hospitals are, like, known for being, like, messy. Like, just because you watch Gray's Anatomy? No, not because I'm watching Gray's Anatomy. Working at a bar, you think they know, you think bartenders don't talk to each other by having sex? As a bartender, I actually have never talked to any of my male co-workers about sexual things, ever. And I bartended for a long time. Never. That's a hot. I just, you just don't know.

I just feel like with you just, men, just to be safe. Everything is different and you play everything by ear, but just don't talk to your female co-workers as well, sex. Oh, no, in 2025, you can't even, you can't even talk to your female co-workers of you, man. I don't even say good morning. Maybe I said good morning to you. No, you do not. I walk right past you. Walk right past you.

It has to, the mic has to be hot. Yeah. Yeah, you're going to hear. Everything I say to baby, did, y'all hear it. Niggins ain't going to have me in no losses. He ain't lying. No, I don't say nothing. I'll walk right past.

Man, when I was working at Havas, like, we would do shoots in Airbnb. Like, we would rent Airbnb's and Soho to do, like, a week of shooting. And a lot of times we would stay there. There'd be a bunch of beds. Like, if we have to shoot at 7 a.m., we're rapping at fucking midnight. Like, a lot of us would just stay. And two coworkers started fucking. and they put me in a fucking small-ass conference room, no windows,

and started asking me about what they were doing at Airbnb. I was like, I was asleep. And it must have not been good sex because I didn't hear shit. And that was the God's honest truth. But apparently, I mean, they were going at it. Maybe I'm just a deep sleeper. Yeah. But they thought I was lying and trying to protect them.

I was like, Dennis, I have no idea. But everyone else snitch, so they both got fired. You should have been sleepwalking. It was kind of nasty because they were in the same like role that wasn't like a power dynamic but she was like damn near twice as age that's why it blew my fucking mind

So what was the issue if it was consensual? I just co-workers We were in an Airbnb paid by the company out of a production budget like for a company like Havas being that corporate like you can't No you can't fuck your co-operative

If they fucked at their house like cool you're basically fucking in the office It's the same thing They might as well went to the bathroom at the office and fucked. But that's what they get for being cheap because y'all should have all been in your own hotel rooms. We were in like huge Airbnbs where everyone had their own individual room and bathroom. Like it happened often. It was better than hotels for the most part.

No one had to share a bathroom. You had your own room. And at that point, I was pissed because, you know, we always gave the women the best rooms because they're women. She was in old boys' room. I could have taken her room. That's why you was mad. That's why you dropped the dime. I thought I was getting fired.

He sent the email. I thought I was getting fired because again, I did not know what was going on. And everyone else that was there, I guess, was like only whispering amongst themselves. So when I got sat in that room, I thought I was getting fired. And they were like, did you know? And I'm not going to say their names obviously were having, they said intercourse, which I started laughing because I can't hold. Don't tell me.

Having like a 55-year-old middle-aged woman say intercourse to me. Don't say intercourse to me. Don't say intercourse. Yeah, don't say intercourse to me. But either way, you know, Joy, Miss Farage, Skip. Listen, man, you know, y'all understand. Get a little horny at the workplace and, you know, but you got to, now you got to stand behind that. Now, before we do wrap up, does Shannon Sharp talk about this?

Absolutely. Does Stephen A. talk about this? Absolutely. They can't wait. We're talking about it. We don't know these niggas. Yeah. You think if I worked with somebody for years like that and this happened, like I'm not going

say something? But I feel like both of them kind of have to come out and say they weren't aware. And I know, you know, Stephen A and Skip were at a whole different network, wasn't even FS1. You do have to say I didn't know shit. Nah, you know, Shannon, if he gets... Same shit of me in that windowless room, bro. I have no idea. Shannon, going to pour some yak. He's going to say, he's going to talk some shit, boy. Oh, I think you. I thought, I try to tell you, Skip. I'll try to you, Skip. I'll skip. I try to you, Skip.

I try to you. Now, leave him go. Leave him alone, Skip. But then that puts you in a crazy position because... What if Shannon lost his job because they didn't want to give him an addition 1.5? That's specific number? That's why Skip had it to spare. Like, yo, all right, man. Like, y'all lost Shannon because you're trying to, Skip trying to give this young lady 1.5. Oh, my God.

Well, I mean, I feel for the spouses in this entire thing because that's got to be... Oh, man. Well, imagine that group chat with Joy Taylor's husband, like with the homies. I wouldn't know what to say. She's not married. It's her ex-husband? Why do you tell you that? Oh, I didn't know they divorced my bad.

I don't keep up with fucking. He was the only, they was only married for a year. Maybe he found out. Oh, what? Maybe. Nah, she wasn't, she wasn't the FS1 in 2017, was she? She was? It specifically said in the paperwork she left her husband, still married in Miami to go to

to L.A. to work with Fs.1. Oh, okay. Well, yeah. Maybe that's why. She was definitely cheating if that is the case. I feel bad for all the women that are in sports because let's not act like that hasn't been a whole stigma forever. that if a woman is working in sports, she's fucking everybody.

And this just puts proof to it. And now every girl is going to have that. Well, sometimes women in whatever workspace to end, they are fucking guys in the work. Sometimes, but there's also a bunch of women who bust their ass to get to where they're at. Oh, 100%. And are also always. It's women that bust their ass to get their position. And it's women that get their ass busted to get their position.

This is nothing new. I promise you. This is all. There's people in there. 70s that can be like this was happening in the 70s like what do we there's nothing new here but probably dixon needs to be fired if everything is true here because now i have to question your decision making as a leader like you're just putting women that you're fucking in a position rather than somebody that's qualified for it because to me that makes the men but what

if she qualified and you for every every woman is not just getting a job because some boss is fucking them that's awful management and i'm not saying that there aren't awful disgusting men that do that, clearly, but not every boss is only giving positions to women because they're fucking them. Right. So that stigma is going to be even more now. So I feel for them. It is what it is, man.

Everybody will be fine at the other day, though. End up at another network. No, they won't. I hope the truth comes out. And I really hope that if this isn't true, like, ain't nothing you can really do to bring Joy career back. That's fucked up. If it isn't true, that's fucked up.

Oh, she has a podcast. She'll be fine. Nobody with a podcast will be fine. Why? Podcasts that is not fine. Yeah, she'll be fine. I'll tell you this. In the paperwork of her saying that if she got fired,

she would just scream rape pretty much is what she said. That's crazy. If she already has that type of mind state, I can see her going on her podcast if this is true and angling it that she started fucking the head of content because she felt pressured. She could spin this and become a quote, unquote victim.

And these times, it's very fucking easy to become one. And be like, oh, he, I felt like I had to do it. And, like, I was embarrassed. And, like, she could find a way to spin this where she looks like she was a victim in this entire time. To my joy? Yeah. Especially if she already has a mind state that she'll yell rape when she was having

consensual sex. We already know the diabolical shit that she could come up with and make herself look like, you know, I was, this is what women have to go through in the space. The only way I could even get a job. I felt very pressured. If I felt like I said something, my whole career. rear would be done. She can find a way to spend this. That women will attach and be like, look, she's a victim.

I can see it. And Fox Sports is not going to side with Charlie Dixon if that's the case. No. Probably doubt that. Well, on to another set of balls. Leangelo balls, viral record. Another set of ball. No, I get what you're saying.

Yeah. Skips balls. Yeah. FS-1. Lavar Ball. Come on. It made them a star. I get it.

All right. So y'all was going crazy about this, Leangelo Ball record last week. My 2025 predictions are live on Patreon right now, Patreon.com backslash new Aurora Mall. And I think so far I'm one for one.

How? You set a hit record. It is not a hit yet. That's a bona fide hit. What's bona fide? That is going to shoot up the charts. Man, this record ain't going nowhere, man. It's viral.

It's not a hit. It's a viral song. You don't think Twink I'm going to Going to chart? No, Nelly won his style back. And Nelly, he's been going crazy asking for his style back all weekend. But, I mean, I get it. I hear a lot of chameleonair in it.

I see, I can see that. Yeah. I see Camillionaire. I can hear a little bit of that. Yeah. I can hear a little bit of that. Yeah, it's got a little New Orleans bounce, New Orleans flared to a little Midwest flared. I get it.

I mean, I think it's a good record. As much as I get, it's a hype, and it's funny to say that you love this record. I don't think it's a bad record. I'm not saying it's a bad record. I heard it once, but I probably won't listen to it again. I mean, it's cool for being Leangelo Ball. I get the fact that it's Leangelo Ball, basketball player, made a really good song. Catchy is viral on, you know, on social media right now.

I get it, but you're talking about it's going to be a hit? I think it will actually last. I think it'll be a record this year. Like, I think it will come on for the remainder of the year. I really do. See, I don't, I don't feel... All he need is a TikTok dance. And that's coming. You know it is.

I was thinking to someone I was listening. He might swear I haven't been in the corner, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Three million in three days. Yeah, viral. I get it. It's a good song. It's catchy. It's definitely a catchy record. I'm seeing some DJs play with different blends and, you know, things like that with the record. I get it.

I understand what it's doing, but I don't know if we'll hear this record being played. at the festival in June, July. This is going off at Rolling Live for sure. Oh, definitely. Come on, man. All I trust is God Glockson dollars, too. Like, he was speaking to me. He was not, I could promise you,

Leangelo Wol was not speaking to. I could promise you wasn't, you were not the target. I could promise you he wasn't speaking to you. I mean, I hear a three stacks pocket crazy on this beat. Who did this? All right, see, now we start putting Andreth,000. Was this, did Metro and Conductor

come together to make this? Like, this beat is crazy. I could hear the three stacks pocket on it. I think three stacks after the flute album, we deserve a verse. And I think he treats it like walking out. I saw people saying Boosey or Webby would be great on a remix. I think we get a remix out of this.

I can see a remix happening. I mean, listen, I felt the same way. Well, actually, no, I didn't know the Glowrilla record was a hit. What was her first record that we love Guru for? I'm F-R-E, no. No, the other one. Yeah, Gloop? No.

Fuck, nigger free. I'm F-R-R-E-E. E-E-Fuck, nigger free. That was her one. That one. I knew that was a hit. So I could kind of see maybe some remnants of that here. But I think the fact that it's a Leangelo Ball is what's going to stop it from.

Because it is a gift and a curse of. Now, if this was some random guy that we never even heard of. We would never even be listening to this record. No, no, no, don't do that. Don't see that. It's different. It's different. He's definitely caught steam because it was Leangelo Ball.

And it was like, oh, this is actually pretty fucking good. But then he debuted on somebody's stream. Yeah, so he debuted it on stream. That was because of who he was. His brother was playing it on Instagram. Like, he's definitely had the ball rollout. So that's what I'm saying. The fact that it was that, I think is what's making it this.

But I think there's a ceiling in that. Because, you know, you're a ball player. When you're an athlete, like, it's not, you're mute. When you try to jump into music, you have a ceiling. But I don't think he's been successful enough in ball for it to matter. I mean, he hasn't, he's not an NBA. But, I mean, the fact that he is. a ball brother, I think that's going to hinder it a little bit.

Versus if this was like a YN from the Midwest, that's really in the street selling pills and busing glocks. Like, if it was that type of kid, I could see that, him getting a remix and then they're really going crazy. Like, but with Leangelo, it being Leangelo Ball, I think there's a cap on it. But this is the first time we've seen an athlete outside of AB, of course, maybe put that shit on, that tried to make a record that I feel like would lean into. party and hits.

Damian Lillard to me is the best rapper basketball player ever. But his albums are shit that like I like. He's like really rapping on this shit. This is a hit. This is a song for the party. We've never seen athletes really try to do that before. Even when Shaq was doing it, he was rapping.

Some of those were hits, but he was rapping. Shack got hits. Don't say someone. Shaggot got hit. Kobe. I mean, Sean, rap. He wasn't really in pocket. Iverson was making fucking cop killing music. That wasn't playing.

on the radio. Yo. We've only seen athletes try to be lyrical. Yeah. This is the first time that we haven't, so I don't think it'll hinder

the way it has with other athletes. Like, people are just viewing this as a good record now. And he got a lot of steam because of what he is. Good record. Good record.

So I am one for one. I don't need flowers yet. I told you guys the two-tone red and yellow roses I like a lot, but whenever you guys want to put together. Pionnies, right? You're a peonies guy.

Gotcha. So maybe a sunflower. Yeah, I don't know. Peonies? But one for one already. Peonies, baby. Pianies? Yeah.

I don't know if I'm taking your, we know your pronunciation is like, are you sure? I'm positive. All right. It's my favorite flower. Pianies? Peonies. Pionies. Pionies.

Pionys. Pionys. Hydrangeous. Hydrangeous. Right. Is that you say it? Hydrangees, I think. Hydrangees.

Okay. And above 40 hydroplane? No, Rory. Technically, I'm two for two or 1.5 for 1.5. Don't see Now you're trying to Palate it into the Nicky thing you predicted

Cut it out I mean we set it off But I can see it happening All right Well you got time It's only January You got time But crazy out the gate

Six days in I will say I am smoking You guys laughed at my list On Patreon I am out the gate I will say It's looking like

All right old Lord You might have some info That we You might be inside trading Right now Like all right man You might have heard About some things

Coming down the pipeline I'm texting LeVar And you knew about some shit In Kenneth Petty It's all right, though. It's all right. But you're looking, you look in a right, though. You look an eye.

You might make the bubble. And also, what I need my flowers for. I got a Drake shout out. I got my own timestamp now from Drake. Oh, to fight an Irish? Yeah. Oh, please. Wait, you didn't think that was for me?

No. Not at one time did I ever think that was for you, Roe, you know? Over the weekend on Conductor's YouTube page, a, I wouldn't even call it a snippet. It was a video of Drake rapping over a conductor beat of something that he had just written. Who even named it Fighting Irish, by the way? Because that was not on any, like, official thing. People just deemed it fighting Irish.

Which I thought was a hard title, because we'll get to the reason why. What a video was originally posted on his photographer's page. Yeah. I'm not sure if she captioned it or not? It wasn't. And then it got to Conductor's page and then everything obviously got taken down by Universal, which we'll also get

to because I thought that was interesting in the middle of this entire back and forth that Drake has with Universal. but it had the timeline in a fucking frenzy because this is the first time since Heart Part 6 that we really heard a response from Drake about everything that happened in the last six, seven months. There was stuff in 100 gigs that was here and there certain things

but nothing that felt like an official response to what was going on. This entire thing feels like a shot at LeBron James. I think that's why people called it fighting Irish because obviously LeBron used to play was it St. Mary's, where their mascot was the Irish. It comes out the gate.

I don't know. I think it's not just a LeBron. This, I think it's overall all the people that he was cool with that ended up buying a ticket to the Amazon show. And just everyone that he saw, I guess, yeah, switch sides. But this put, again, the timeline back in a full fucking split where everybody was either. absolutely hating it or thought it was the greatest thing. I just, can we get to a place in 2025? Why are people hoping for bad music from artists?

Like, I'll never understand that logic. I understand we're in the era that everyone chose a team and everyone that didn't even like hip hop before. Now has decided to take the Kendrick side, which is fine. He's an incredible artist. I'm glad more people are Kendrick fans. Why on earth as a consumer? This shows me that you're just not a fan of music.

Why on earth would you want bad Drake music? Why on earth would you want bad Kendrick music? Who want... Why would you want bad SZA music? Because she's with TD. I don't get this new stand culture. People want bad music? People were celebrating that they thought this Drake snippet or leak was bad.

To the point that they were searching chat GBT and did this whole theory of when Drake uses shun at the end of every bar. People were just finding chat GBT verses. Like make a Drake version. with Shun as the last syllable. And they were pretty funny. I can't lie. Chat GBTGBT did come up with some great, like,

no, 9 a.m. at Chat GBT GVTs. They were fucking great. But I don't know. I just found it odd that, of course, I've already accepted this weird stand culture on both sides. But I thought, like, when we got Drake to rap again, that I'm not saying you have to like it, but the celebration and hope that Drake continues to put out music

that they deem awful. And also the people that did once like an artist, but now that they've chose this other team, they discredit everything that they used to like about the artist. But that's not just what artists. That's what in life, though. Like, that's just a thing that people do. Why?

Because that's what people have been waiting for. They've been waiting for a moment to say, oh, he's not as good or she's not as good as y'all thought she was or, you know, this person's not as dope as y'all thought they were. people are waiting for that moment for you to look like you slipped or you had, you know, a moment where it wasn't your best effort to then kind of like anything after that going to say, see, look, I told you this person was never this good anyway. But I've objectively had criticism for Drake since CLB. I mean, I love the 21 Savage one. Like honestly, never mind. CLB, nah. I didn't go into for all the dogs hoping to be right. I wanted the music to be good. Now, it wasn't. my favorite Drake album, but I'm not sitting here now because I was like, hey, I feel like

he's not inspired that I want to be right about it. I don't want, I didn't want GNX to be bad. Why do people want the artists that they don't like to now have to make bad music? Well, because you value the actual music more than you value the Yap culture, the need for controversy and drama and debate because people don't really have that shit going on in their like real lives, they're bored. So the only time they even, and get a chance to argue with somebody is like online or like things like that. They need the controversy in their lives.

You actually care about the music. There are people who still care about the music. But not only that. Other people just been louder lately. There's people that, again, you know, when you've been as dominant as Drake has been over the past 14, 15 years or whatever. And, you know, there's a group of people that,

no matter what you do, when you dominate for years, people want to see you kind of like have a moment where you're not dominating, where you're not the best. Like, that's just a, I think that's human nature. I think people just being human want to see somebody else receive, you know, the accolades and the praise that you've received for so many years. I get that. So I think this is, we're in that phase where I think it's, it's, it's way extra now.

Oh, I mean, but it's supposed to be because you're talking about a guy that's, again, has dominated for so long. So his, you know, his tear down has to be extra. His, is, you know, if it's going to happen, I'm on the side of your own. Let it happen if the music is actually bad. If the, you know, what we're listening to is like, okay, this is not as good. If it's that, then by all means, it's time to put somebody else in that spot. But don't force it and say everything you hear now post beef is, oh, it's chat GPT, it's trash, it's garbage.

It's like, all right, man, people that know can see through that shit. Like, y'all are just waiting for anything that he put. Drake could put out his greatest album tomorrow. And there's going to be a flood of people online saying, this is trash. Do you think that this fighting Irish was good? Yeah. I thought it was good.

Okay. Yeah. I like the way he released it too. It kind of was like just... You think that was intentional. It wasn't really just a leak. Well, obviously it's old. That had been recorded for a while now.

Oh, I didn't know that. I mean... He had braids in the video. Oh, shit. Okay. See, this is how much, like, I don't care too much about these people. I only care about their music. I would have never even, like, he didn't have braids.

I don't keep up with his hairstyle. This is at least a couple months old. And I thought it was, you know, his way of kind of like, because I'm sure people have been reaching out to him and kind of like, you know, backsliding and, you know, backtracking certain actions and reaching out to him. And I think this is probably his way of letting those people know, like, nah, fam. Like, that wasn't, you know what I mean? Like, you got to stay over there. You pick the side, stay over there. I think this was a cool way of doing that.

Do you think he chose to leak it or had someone purposely leak it based off, because you brought up in the last episode that LeBron at his birthday party requested. man of the garden and wrapped it because Drake unfollowed him. Do you think Drake asked this to be leaked because of LeBron's 40th birthday party? Because this, again, is a pretty direct, which we'll go through lyrics. It is a direct shot at LeBron through most of this. It's pretty obvious. Obviously, we know that part. I think that it's a, it can be some of that.

That probably is some of it. I believe that, you know, LeBron has probably reached out, you know, through some avenues or, you know, directly however he can to probably have a conversation. with Drake. And I think this is probably Drake's way of saying, like, fam, like, you know what I mean, like, don't reach, don't try to hit my line. Like, this is what it is. This is where I'm at. Like, y'all knew what it was when, you know, we was at Mike Rubin's party. And you know what I'm saying? Like, y'all felt, y'all knew the energy was different. I didn't speak to nobody. You know what I mean? Like, so I think this is his way of kind of like just standing down on that.

Like, yo, listen, this is what it is. Like, it ain't no beef, but, you know, y'all can't. We never going to be as chummy, chummy. as cool as we were. Like, you pick that side, stay over there. I'm indifferent with it, because I did see, even like people that I do think are actually objective and just music fans analyzing this, I did see people view this as Drake pretty much calling himself a victim in a rat battle that he very much engaged in and continued for a week straight to have Kendrick Lamar reply again. And now is playing victim. I get that point of view, but I don't really think how is you think this is playing victim i think he it's he can't win for losing when it comes

to rapping about the situation that happened in the last six months even though i was someone that's been on record saying i can't wait to hear what drake and cole have to say in you know reflecting on everything that happens so i'm i'm here for all this i like the record anytime there's some conductor shit and drake is rapping like a fucking lonely mafioso i'm here for it every time i think it's it's great even though i don't think this is his best rapping i did like the way he addressed it. And if I had friends of 15, 20 years and somebody called me a pedophile and you bought a ticket to go watch it, I'm feeling away. So I get, I don't think Drake is playing victim in per se of that battle. I think he is rightfully so upset at some of his friends that like,

oh, you, you really went to that show? Like, I thought we was like close like that. So I understand that. and I think that's why he can't win for losing. Because people, I think even DJ had posted something about him playing victim off when he was the aggressor. I get that, but this is separate, this is his friends that he's mad at. He doesn't really address Kendrick in this whatsoever. This is all direct mainly at LeBron.

The only problem I have with what he was saying, the world fell in love with gimmicks, even my brother's got tickets, seemed like they loved every minute. I get it. He's mad at. at all his friends that were there. You can't say that the world fell in love with gimmicks

when you fully participated in this battle. You even told Kendrick Lamar to call you a pedophile. You went through that entire thing. We didn't fall in love with the gimmicks. You got what you asked for. So I don't want to hear anything about that as us as fans falling for anything because you as Tupac and Snoop Dog

told Kendrick to do exactly what he ended up doing. Drop, drop, drop. I know you got 10 more, all that shit. Nah, I don't want to hear that part. But everything else, yeah, man, I'd say fuck LeBron too. 100% would say that. I mean, I think it's... I'm just trying to figure out where you say I'm playing the victim part of.

That's how people viewed this entire thing. Like, after the battle now, Drake is like, look what they did to me when you actively participated in a rap battle where there are no rules. I looked at it differently. I would be mad at my friends, but I'm not... You can't tell the world that we fell in love with the gimmicks. when you said the gimmicks before Kendrick did. But that doesn't make you...

You say, yo, call him a pedophile. Yeah, but that doesn't mean I can't say you fell in love with it. Yeah, that doesn't make it any less of a gimmick that you did in default. You fell for the gimmick. What? You fell for it. Then rap battles are gimmicks. Nah.

Not exactly. Nah. You know why he's saying gimmicks, and especially when you're talking about they're not like us. And I don't, just that one, if he would have dragged it on for more than one bar, sure. But that one little line that happens to rhyme with tickets, I'm not, I like the bottom. I don't think that gives victim.

That's the only part of this entire thing where I am giving credence to some of the objective fans that were like, this isn't really what I wanted to hear. You shouldn't sound like this is, you're the victim in a situation that you very much were an active participant in. It just didn't go the way maybe you thought it was going to go. But other than that, I do think it's a cool freestyle. I wish you would have finished it. My guess is that he was going to scrap it, but he had the footage and was like, let me just get this shit out.

I don't know if you had spoken to him, but. To double back, he did mention that kind of like that gimmick thing on verse three again. He said this nigga pulled a rabbit out of the hat and y'all love a magician. So it wasn't just mentioned ones. I'll bring that up. Yeah.

That's part of a rap battle. Go make some shit up. And see if the people fall for it. I think, again, make it. I didn't really think that it was gasey and popular records. I think it's very simple. I think that people that he obviously had a personal relationship with on a deeper level than we probably know. I think that he saw them stand next to something that was trying to paint him to be something that, again, is the worst shit in the world.

And I think that he feels like if you're my friend, it is. It is rap and it is entertainment. But if you're my friend and somebody is, you know, alluding that I'm this fucking disgusting person, you can't be at the show dancing with them, rapping along to the lyrics. Like you, that's just, again, we're talking about if you're a friend, not if you're just somebody that I say, yo, what's up and I keep it moving. If you're in my house and you, you know what I'm saying? You're playing with my kids and your kids. and my kids know each other. Like, it's certain things that I'm just going to expect a certain level of loyalty.

Sure. Like, and I think that that's what this is basically speaking to. Like, you know, like you said we're brothers, but I'm not that cousin to visit. We family. I'm not that cousin to visit. Like, I think a lot of that was at Cole. I don't think that was all at LeBron. Whoever it's at.

Cry, blues for you, say it wasn't malicious. Talk about we family. I think a lot of that, God forbid, we ever tarnish your public image. that bar people said was about LeBron and then I saw everyone take that conclusion that Drake was going to expose LeBron for cheating. I was like, how did y'all get that from that bar? But that's just the internet?

That's the internet. It was crazy. I didn't catch that. I didn't even think about, I didn't even think about, but we've heard that before, whatever. So when people said that I attributed to LeBron but now that you say that all that brother talk is if I really discovered a sibling and that God forbid we ever got to

the ton of your public image, now I do get what you're saying why that might be cold. I'm here. I think those three bars are Cole because if we go back and I'm sorry to backtrack for everyone listening to this pod but this battle's not going anywhere.

We're going to continue. We just, it is what it is. I had said when Cole went on there, he had spoken with Drake and Kendrick and found out where both of them were taking it and said, I have a family.

I am in a great space with my family. I was probably on tour for a long time and I don't need anything of my past to come out of here. And I think that's where Drake is saying, God forbid we ever got to tarnish your public image. Because in this battle, no matter, clearly we see that both sides were making things up to begin with. I don't think Cole wanted anything made up or the truth to ever be said about him

and some of his younger days. So he bowed out. That was my take then. And I think Drake kind of confirms it here. God forbid we tarnish your public image. I think he had a combo with Cole and Cole said, I don't want to go there. Y'all about to go on some family shit. Fuck that. I'm out, bro. We all have demons. We all have shit. I'm not trying to put anything on Cole or put anything on his jacket. We all have some things consensually that we're not proud of in our past, especially a young millionaire that's 22 years old on tour. I'm sure there was some shit. I'm not, yeah.

And Cole has a great public image. Genius is bringing up Demar de Rosen. Genius. I'm just saying, I'm just throwing players out there. I get it. Wait. It would tarnish Damar de Rosen's public image if we knew he had depressed. and anxiety?

No. Listen. As far as the... Rob, you know I love you, but I think you guys got that one more. And talking about, niggas cried the blues for you saying it wasn't malicious.

That's what, that's what I'm saying. Cried the blues for you. They bring it up blue De Mardero's and Crip affiliated. They're putting that. Listen, I'm just bringing up with that.

This is my last shit listening to rap. I promise you, dog. Now, I can't, this is just crazy. Now, again, like the freestyle and I'm totally understand the bronze shit,

I'd feel a certain type of way. The end. does come back to him discussing the battle somewhat. I feel like this is where Drake since the push-a-t-t-tee battle has had some responses that I think were just mismanaged because I do think he was in his feelings about how people have spoken about his family. I think Scorpion is an incredible album. I think that intro is great. I hated his response of my daddy dresses himself. Like what like what like what like? It's, don't reply at that point. I always found that bar weird. And I think he kind of proves just my

perspective that a lot of these shots that is about his past and his family dynamic do affect him a lot. And it shows in his emotion in how he says things. I don't have a drinking problem. I have subtle addictions. I got my father's habits. I got my mother's permission, which I don't fully understand that part. But he does give credence to the things that Kendrick and Push have brought up about his upbringing. It almost validates what they were saying and that they analyzed Drake correctly. What, that his mom is a white lady?

Well, yes, they nailed that one. Which, I've loved Drake's response in that past when he had said, like, oh, you guys told me my mother's white like I'm not looking at her. Like, whoa, what a surprise. You don't think him addressing, this is the first time he's really said anything

about the battle. He's validating a lot of Meet the Grams. No? No, I don't, I don't know. I don't know. I need you to draw a parallel a little bit more for me, baby. Just because you said I got my daddy's, my father's addiction and my mother's permission? Or what he said? A lot of the first verses outside of the secret kid and all that entire thing was Kendrick talking to Drake's parents about all of their habits and the things that they have done have led to your son now doing these types of things. He even told his mother to sit down and listen to me. Like, he was giving them a talking to. And in response...

A talking to. In response to everything. That's high fellow. A talking to. What's Drake's mom's name again? So he said, Sandra, sit down. He said, the Dennis jeans come out when the vodka is flooded my system. I don't have a drinking problem.

I have subtle addictions. I have my father's habits. My father's habits. He is validating, which is fine. A lot of us, myself included, have a lot of hereditary addiction problems that come from your family. It does validate what Kendrick was trying to place in Meet the Grams. Yeah, but it's, which is fine. I mean, if Drake is fine with that, I think it's something he's talking about. His father's habits could be, because then he has the next line. He said, my dad has

another child. Like, so he's saying, I got my father's habits meaning I had a kid that, but, you know, the relationship with the mom is not the best. Like, it could be that. Like, I could have a habit with women that, like my father has. Yeah. It could be, it doesn't have to be a drinking addiction. It doesn't have to be a, like, I just don't know this like again people are diving way too deep into this I get it this is what we're supposed to do when somebody puts out a record like this in in the midst of coming off of one of the biggest battles that we've had I get it but a lot of the times we just be we just be throwing shit at the wall hoping something stick bro I don't think we're looking too far in this because I think it's a direct response to meet the grams which was validating a lot of what Kendrick was saying when he was analyzing Drake's upbringing and who he is as a person now. So you think Kendrick gave us the knowledge? No. I just think every time push got into his actual family life,

and Kendrick did as well, and Drake has always replied emotionally to those things rather than strategically, which he did with Meek. Shit, even dubby freestyle, he wasn't emotional yet. He does show his hand, which again, why we love Drake is because he's a sensitive artist. Artist should be sensitive. He shows his hand and isn't strategic.

when it comes to these family lines. Push and Kendrick are proving that it got to him. It really got to you that you're happy, not even just addressing it, confirming that, yeah, a lot of the shit don't meet the grams, you were correct. Which there's nothing wrong with. A lot of us have fucked up parents

and it bleeds into our life. So I don't think it's a bad thing. I just think now in the scope of this battle, which you've already, your perception, is rocky in this situation. You just confirm meet the grams. Do you guys think Drake should have dropped this? Yeah, I'm not mad at.

I think, again, it wasn't officially a drop. It was a video, a photographer put it on her Instagram. Of course, every blog picked it up after that. But it was like a cool little. I think it is. Well, I mean, he definitely gave a permission to post it. But I mean, you know, I think it was a cool way of kind of just putting some type of, you know, bars out there and some type of, you know, I think the people, I think this was for a specific, specific people to hear. You know, I mean, I do think that people are reaching out to him personally that he's just not fucking with anymore.

And I think this is his way of just confirming that and letting those people know, like, listen, I'm not going to hit your phone. Don't hit mine. This is where we stand. You're going to know exactly who. Whoever he's talking to knows exactly who he's talking to knows exactly who they are through these bars. They know. And I think that's what this was for, which is why it was kind of released in the way it was. It was kind of like just giving you a glimpse

into what I've written so far I got at my phone. I didn't write much more than this. Hey, just put this out so people can stop hitting my fucking phone. Yeah, if this was an actual drop, I would have liked him to finish it. I think Drake would have not scrapped these verses whatsoever, but just added more to them. It felt like he was really just writing this in the moment

and was just rapping it to conductor, whoever it was there. Like he was high, like rapping like. Like, no, this is how far I got, which is cool. If this was on DSPs, though, I would like a little bit more, but I mean, this is the type of trick I like, so I'm never mad at that. It sounds like a timestamp. Yeah, it's one of those are outro joint. Why do we think he told his dad that wasn't my sister? Was she dancing and not like us? What happened? People do that all the time. I know, but you have an outside child. That's not my sister. I think that was lame in him for

him to write that line, but people do that all the time. Well, I don't think it was lame because I think there's way more to that. I think something happened within the midst of that. I don't think he just out the gate, like, did 23 and me and saw his dad at a kid and was like, yo, that's not my sister. Something happened, I feel like, in the midst of that. Yeah. Again, that's, you know.

That's why I just want to know what y'all think. Did he catch her on Instagram? Like, was she doing a TikTok dance? Did not like us? You found a TikTok? I don't know. He found a TikTok with the old word. That's a jacket.

Dennis was a well-traveled musician. For all we know, she could have been born in Compton and she was in that video. You see what Drake said. That ain't my sister, though. I just found on TikTok, and she going crazy to not like us. But I feel, again, I don't know him,

but we can speak for us. If you found out you had another sibling, your initial reaction would be, that's not my sister? People do that all the time. People be knowing about their siblings that their parent had with another, like, mom, and they just will not claim that.

If we don't have the same, mom, we not siblings. People do that shit all the time. Fair. Especially if you resent your dad in some type of way and his relationship he has with your mom. Or if he was married at the time. If he was cheating. Yeah. No, like I said, that's, people do that but I do feel like Drake being the age that he is, there would be, you don't blame that on the kid to your sister. Like, that's not her fault. That's your, if you, if you still cool with your dad, but not cool with the daughter, the daughter didn't do anything. Your dad did it, but, and Clearly we know Drake has had his ups and downs with his father, but they are still close.

I don't think that that's... How you mad at, you're not mad at your dad, but that's not your sister? No, I think that's why he said that because he was mad at his dad. I don't think it was personal to the young lady. I think it was more so like when his dad told him that, he was like mad at his father more than anything. I think that's what it was. But again, you know, this is us just diving deep into shit that we don't know about guessing, which is what we're supposed to do.

But the bottom line is, I think that... This is hinting at the fact that he probably has more shit written. Oh, for sure. More songs, more bars coming. Whenever he decides to put out another album, I know he has the tour this year in Australia. So I'm guessing sometime after that, maybe that tour is over. The Drake Party album still, I believe, is coming this month. There was three, like, 15-second snippets, which we don't need to listen to them because

they're just quick 15-second joints. I liked all three of the 15 second snippets. I mean, but Drake and, he's not here for the rap beef. He's here to get the party lit, which I'm fine with that now. But go do it. Like, go do it.

If you don't care about the beef no more, cool, whatever. And you're only focused on getting the party lit, then I would love a record. Which I think we'll get with this party. Yeah, but Drake and Party, their track record together, their songs together are. Those snippets sound great. Yeah, like, I think that this album is going to be

one of those albums that we played for a long time. I think we had enough records, enough quotables, enough bars, enough captions on here to last us a while. Now, I agree with you that this did go out because there was a lot of people hitting Drake's phone and he didn't want to talk to. I'm with you on that. I do think there's another side of why he released it

through the photographer and through another YouTube page. This is also a shot at Universal. I'm not giving... He knew for a fact that shit was going to be taken down, didn't come from his page, came from someone else's. He knew Universal would strike it eventually. but everybody was at the edge of their fucking seat to hear what Drake had to say about the battle now.

And he purposely did not give Universal that moment to monetize it. So I think that was 100% also a shot at Universal. My response is going to go through something else. It's going to get out. Even if you strike it, everyone ripped that shit within five minutes. Now everyone has my response and you can't monetize off it because I'm not fucking with you Universal. So I think that was a clear shot at them.

The Drake Party album is not going to be Universal either. I don't, I mean, I don't know how he's going to do that, but I'd be curious to see. I don't think that's going to be universal. I think that might be a... Both of them are on Universal, though. Yeah, but I don't think they're going to put that out. Yeah, I don't think they're going to, I don't think that's going to be universal release. But Universal would need to clear their vocals regardless.

If he can get that off, more power to him. I just don't know how that would happen. I don't think so. I don't think if they planned on it being a universal release, I think that I would have been out already. But I don't think so. Okay. marriage split up, Kai left confused after Kanye West posted a picture of a horse in his room. So the reason why is because it says bully on the horse. Obviously, this was superimposed into

Kai's room. People think Kanye's album is coming out and this is part of the rollout. Well, another snippet leak, whatever, you got mad at the guy that was filming, a record bully that there's been other snippets before. This is, I guess, kind of confirmed first single of Kanye's also leaked. Kai sat with Shannon Sharp and they discussed the Kanye. relationship, Kanye said there's no beef, which was great to see. That bully snippets sounded incredible too. I mean, as much as we feel like Kanye's fell off a little bit. I liked Vultures 1. Vultures 2 is okay to me. That bully shit sounds great. I like the space. Kanye's smiling. He's on socials with his wife. Like, it could be a facade, but I'm, I'm happy to see Kanye look like he's in a way

better space. It's just a snippet. Sounded awesome. I'm always here from Kanye. I'm just indifferent about Kanye right now. Because I do know that he's leaning into that AI shit. So I can't really, like, I'm not with artists using this AI shit to make complete songs and albums and just use your likeness and then you show up on stage with a mask on. Is that Kanye? Is that I'm not into that shit.

Like, I get it, but I'm just not, I don't really, I don't put much into that. Like, I don't, I'm not here for Kanye West for AI album. Like, I'm just not here. for that shit. Like, if it's Kanye, I wanted to be Kanye in the booth, like he wrote it or he had writers in the room with him, but it's his vocals. I don't want the AI shit. Like, I'm not, I'm not jumping into that. I mean, I like Kanye singing when it's autotune and also when it's not autotune, but could you make a case that when someone is completely printing their vocals with effects already? Is it that much of a fucking difference if AI is doing it? Yes, absolutely.

AI was kind of doing it before. Nah. The pitch, pitch correction and all of that is totally different from, hey, Kanye, we have this album already done. I'm not saying, I just need you to sign off on it.

Not just pitch correction, because every singer does that, regardless of how talented they are. I'm saying they are printing their vocals with complete effects on them when it goes to mastering. Is there that much of a difference at that point when you have that many layers

of effects on your voice? Hell you. Yeah, I don't want that from, but there is other artists that lean so much, much into artists. You don't want that from no artists. You don't want a full AI I'm from no artists. I mean... No, you don't. No, you don't. I'm not going to... From the artists that I don't particularly care for their music anyways, I don't...

No, I'm talking about the artists you care. If you don't care for an artist, it don't matter because that's not an artist you care for. There was a rumor that the Playboy Cardi verse on that weekend song was completely AI. It was someone wrote it for him, and then as a reference, they put his AI vocals and he was like, well, just keep that then. And he didn't spend anything. We heard that rumor. I don't... Playboy Cardi Cardi, has so, I don't even know what his actual voice sounds like. So I don't really care in that aspect. I know what Kanye's voice sounds.

But you're not a Playward Cardi fan. True. That's what I'm a hater. I'm not a hater, but I'm just saying, you're a hater if you don't like Playward Carrey. Well, that's true. But if you, if you, if the fan, the artist that you support, that you've been supportive of forever, and you actually buy, you know,

tickets to go see them and things like, like, I'm really, talking about the artists that you really, really enjoy. If you find out they, they made a full AI album, you're not supporting that. Yeah, I'd be upset. And that's all I'm saying. I'm just not, I don't, come on. Like, what are we doing that? But what would even, you seem attached to this idea of Kanye doing a full AI album?

What about Kanye even gives him giving complete control to AI? Kanye's too much of a control freak as he's like shown in his whole entire career. I can't see him doing a whole AI album. He's actually one of the few artists that I could see at his level. 100% having no problem with that because Kanye has always been the artist that's moving forward. What's the next thing and wants to be the artist to do it? I can see him loving the AI shit. Yeah, AI, but it's AI as far as what.

AI isn't writing the lyrics. AI is it dual-and-dozer. No, AI, like, meaning he did not step in a studio at all for no part of this album. He was there when it was done when they had the songs done. He may have told him, well, change this. Like, they're using his likeness. It's being marketed as Kanye. Like, he has that, he has to sign off on everything.

But as far as him spending hours and months in the studio writing and recording music, like I think for most artists, that, you know, because if you afforded that luxury, I think you had to work to get to that space that Kanye, we obviously know he can go in and make it an album. He's been doing it. But if he's at a point in his career where he was like, you, I'm not sitting in the studio for months again. I'm not doing it.

But if I'm going to reap all the benefits of it based off using this new technology and they're going to use my, you know, my likeness and my fluctuations and my voice and all of this thing and they know have a cool way of doing it, like Rory said, Kanye will lean it. He wants to be the first one to be like, yeah, I'll. was the first one to do that. Yeah, but I just see him still going in the studio and being a big part of the process. Even if it is a full AI album, I see. Oh, no, he'll go in and listen to him.

Kanye just signing off his shit. Oh, no, no, he'll go in there and listen to him like, okay, change this part, put this here. Like, he'll do that still. But as far as him, like, you know, the time that it takes an artist like Kanye to do an album, like years, I think that's over with it. But, I mean, Kanye, his process as far as writing has been, in-person AI-like. Like, he'll have a bunch of great writers and rappers around him,

whether it be Saha, Kans, Rhymefest, whoever, he tells them what he wants to say. And they find a better way to rap it. Like, AI is just another tool. It'd be not the same, obviously, because I don't think it has the same feeling as a human being doing it. That's how Kanye's work, though. Even down to production of,

he's such a great producer because he knows other musicians that can do things better than him and make his vision better than he could. AI is just another musician or writer, I think, in Kanye's head in that regard. These are the things I want to cover. You write it the best way possible. I'm going to go in the booth and I'll find a pocket and just do a bunch of how I want you to have the flow. And then you put the words together, Saha.

You're a better rapper than me. I want the best product. I think it's the same thing with AI now. And Kanye, who has isolated himself so much to the point that Todd Isle is the only one he's working with, I think it's even better for him because he doesn't have that crew of 15 people like he used to. We talk about the integrity.

I don't want it. I'm just saying, I'm looking at from what we know Kanye from the outside looking in. To him, I feel like at this age, he's like, all right,

AI is just my new side. I don't think it's the same. Hell no. But here's a bunch of ideas that I want and you could put that shit together with my voice, bet. I'll do the drums here.

I'll get someone to play the sense. I think you're right. But I just can't, I can't buy into that, man. Because it's still got to be the integrity, we got to protect the integrity of this art form, man. Like, we have to. Like, what, again, I understand I'm, I'm on the outside of a lot of, you know, the way people think and feel these days. And I'm cool with that. But when you start

talking about, you know, changing the integrity of how artists that we love, make, create, write, and put out music and say, oh, no, you know, he didn't go in the booth at all this. It's crazy. I'm going to look at you like, all right, so what is this that I'm listening to now? I can't really attach myself to this music and this art the way I once did because it's not even a real person that did this. Like you're trying to, it's like buying fake jewelry. Okay. A lot of fake jewelry looks great. You know what I'm saying? But then when you sit down and you sit across on somebody and you know that their jury is real, like you know that that. You can't really become attached to this thing because you know it's not real. It's like that's not

even a real thing that you're doing. Would you feel a way if you heard, because we're all cool with auto tune and effects. Like that's been around, I love Aidaways and Heartbreaks. Plenty of artists from then on their entire voice and style is not theirs. It's a complete version of early

AI with effects on your voice. If you heard all the demos without their settings on it, would you also feel the same way? Like, this isn't real, bro. Even though you went in the booth and did this, this sounds completely fucking different. No, I mean, it's... With the AI program shit now that Robbie and them have,

I could go into a booth and they could easily make me sound amazing. Oh, no, I get that. And if you heard me singing it, the real demo shit, you'd be like, I can't believe you. This is fake. No, I get it. But again, that's, to me, that's the way it stops. It should be like, all right, at least you really was in there and really, you know, use your voice.

It's not the days where T. T. Payne, who definitely turned the tune all the way up and made his own style out of it, T. Payne could always sing. Yeah. No matter what. It was just a style in a cool, innovative way. That's not the case anymore. These people's entire, if there's not a setting on that, they would not be an artist.

It would not exist at all. How creative are you really being? I mean, if you wrote it great, but there's people that have that and don't write it. To me, that's the same as AI at that point. I don't know. All right. So, Rory, would you get on the flight and it wasn't no pilots in the cockpit? It was just all like.

It may happen eventually if I live that long. getting on no flight with no fucking pilots in the cockpit, man, I'm not doing that. I wouldn't even get into Uber if it pulled up and it was just ordered, like one of those. Last time I was in LA, every corner I was at,

it was a fucking empty car. I was terrified every time. I'm not, I'm not getting in that shit. I'm not, I'm not doing it. Well, that's a safety issue, though.

That's not a, this is a safety issue. The music is at stake here. The art is at stake here. Art is in danger. We're in danger of losing this art form. But we are not, we are not in danger of losing.

Yes, we are. If, If an artist like Kanye puts out a successful AI album, everything changes after that. It does validate in cosign. We all know Kanye has had a rough couple years and his perception to a lot of people is different now. But let's not act like Kanye West, cosigning AI would not validate it. Of course it would. It would. It would.

Because everybody's going to like, well, shit, yay did it. Fuck it. I'm going to do it. That drum was crazy. This album was crazy. Fuck it. I don't have to do this. I don't have to sit in the studio. a month. Because now label's going like, yo, we don't got to spend that much money on studio

time, you know, marketing this. Like, we could just get this thing going, you know, put a couple visuals to it. What's funny is, I don't even think it's Kanye validating. I think behind the scenes Kanye found out that a lot of these artists are doing that. And he said, oh, really? I think he's been validated by other artists that have came to him and said, bro, this entire shit as they are. Is he y'all doing that? It's crazy, man. But listen, just remember I said, man, this shit is at, we talk about some day. Technology is great, but it's, but it can also fuck up a lot of great things. Like, we got to keep that in perspective.

And when we start talking about the art form of creating music, writing music, singing, rapping, when you start putting too much of that cut into the game. But the real shit will always, the cream will always rise to the top. Like, we had that conversation before. Yeah, but if the, if the, if the, if the, if the, if the cream della cream, if he's doing it. But he's not the crem d'a creme. Kanye? No, when it comes to talent, Kanye is not the creme de la Cremé.

of people who can sing and people who can. I'm talking about people who have... Artistry, I'm talking about. Yes, artistry. He's the top of the top. No, but he's not. Because Kanye always had writers or some of his best music

had writers on it, and he can't really sing. So, no, when it comes to the talent... Some of the best artists in the world have writers. That don't mean... Yes, but, okay, when we're talking about rapping, you can't say that you're the crim-de-crim when your best rapes were not written by you and your best singing was not...

I don't look at Kanye as a rapper, though. Kanye to me is an artist. Okay, so but what I'm talking about is when we're talking about music, the actual music, people who can still, people who can still sing, who can actually sing, will still sing. People who can actually rap and write will still do that. So yes, you're going to get a bunch of people who are good at bullshitting, and I'm not saying Kanye is good at bullshitting, but you're going to get a bunch of these little rappers or little artists who are good at bullshitting. Yeah, they're going to do the AI shit.

But people who really are artists and musicians, they're still going to do the real thing. So it's not going to completely erase the people who know how to sing and know how to rap. Yeah, but Kanye West is a musician and he also has written before. Let's not like completely take, just because Kanye does what producers down to Quincy Jones have done. You're a producer. You're not a beatmaker. You're producing everything that's happening. It's your vision.

This is what you want. You're getting other people that are better at trumpet than you to do it. I don't think that takes away. I also think he's written great raps before all by himself. Let's not say that Kanye is now. all of a sudden not really a rapper like that, he's had help, which is fine. Because to all's point, I view him as an artist.

Like, if we were doing a top five, top 10 best rappers of all time, I'm not putting Kanye West there because, again, he's definitely had some help. But if we're talking top five, top 10 rap artists of all time, Kanye might be number one. But he's still writes. Like, let's not act like that.

Yeah, he definitely still writes. But I understand what Demarish is saying, but I think that those writers they stand to lose like the opportunity to be able to write some hit records if it's like okay we don't need to bring in writers we put this through some type of system you know and it's like it gives us it writes a complete song now the writers are at the real writers are at risk of not even being hired for to write on songs and projects anymore because they're not needed to to an extent but I think they'll always still be needed because chat GPT it can write for you

but it can't, it's not a human being. So it can't convey the emotion that really, really good songs, songs that our grandparents sung, and we sung. Yet. Yet. And it might not ever happen, though, because it's going into a computer formula or a computer algorithm.

And sometimes that can't pump out what a human can pump out. But that, I mean, that's what a lot of people felt when Autotune completely took over, that there is no real feeling, even though it's coming from a human being. Like, granted, I hear emotion in Travis, Scott's music for sure, but it is so diluted in effects that I don't know if I'd be able to tell

the difference if chat, GBT, or AI did a Travis Scott record. Yeah, that's a motion, but it's printed with so much shit that I don't know if I'd know the difference, because there is already so much technology on his voice to begin with. I don't know if I'd know the difference. That's why I don't, from them, like, it is what it is. I'm never supporting a full AI. Never. Do you think Baby had any AI shit on his album?

I didn't listen to this album. I was listening for it. I think it's going to be the new standard. And Baby, who even when he's rapping, rapping, has a crazy effect on his voice at all times. I could see it happening. I didn't listen to the album. And, you know, based on just what I'm seeing, people say,

I'm not in a rush to listen to it either. I didn't see anybody say they liked it. I didn't see anybody saying they enjoyed it. I'm actually seeing people, you know, saying they, you know, they think that it's over for little baby. again, this is one of the dudes that I like, but I have not listened to this album yet. Truthfully, it was tough for me to even get,

I couldn't fully get through it. But what is it? I'm not the one that's running to Baby's music to begin with, but obviously outside of just having a pod, Baby is still one of the bigger rappers. And, you know, the whole world said we're in the baby era and this is the next Jay-Z and all that. I like, like, my turn, I like that baby album, a lot.

I even like stuff on, it's only me. I felt like this was a super important album. for a little baby because rightfully so not on some hate and shit it has been quieter for baby than the last five years 2020 to 2020 baby had it i think that's why i didn't listen to it yet because i'm scared that if i listen to it i'm going to feel like it might be over for i don't think he delivered for how important this moment was with everyone saying it's been a little bit quiet even the rollout didn't even feel that qc esk they're great at that yeah it was the charlemagne joint which ended up getting taken down like it was it was a very quiet

roll out to for somebody that needed a very loud one because no matter what even if you feel like baby is falling off he's still low baby solidified from this era we are stopping what we're doing to make sure we can hear a little baby out what is this was important what is the single um um that's a great question i mean that's what i'm asking because i haven't heard any is it i think i think i think i've seen a joint with him future and dumb dumb dumber Doug um is it Doug no it's baby young thug in future. Baby Young Thug in future, okay. Glorilla's on it. I'm mad at that record. Oh, that was supposed to be the single, the Glorilla one.

Yeah. Say Twin was the one that, like, Kai was like, who put this on a whiteboard? I felt for baby, but again, I mean, people are allowed to critique your music. It's fucking art. When the Kai age group is not feeling the baby shit, it's fine if I don't like a baby album. I'm not, even though I do like his music, I'm not the main shit that he's trying to get. when Kai is giving, which I respect honest feedback to something, that's where I would start to feel a little worried if I'm QC or if I'm on Baby's team.

Like when you're not getting the group that this is intended for, that's a problem. If you don't always get me and my age group, you'll survive, but you'll really sell the most like with my turn. He got my age group and the younger ones. If you're not getting either, yeah, somebody needed to sit with him and say, is this the return album that we really need? Is it the same? Is Little Baby maybe, is his issue the same that I feel like the baby's issue is

is just the growth in the music? Yeah. The growth in the music, the growth as a writer, as an artist, switching up your content, switching up your flow, kind of like, you know, experimenting with another type of BPM. I think the baby actually would have went a little bit farther if he didn't piss off. a lot of his fan base with his antics.

The baby or Little Baby? The Baby. I think he would have actually went farther than Little Baby. Because the Baby still catches one every once in a while. I think some people that might say the baby is a bigger artist than Little Baby. I think he had the potential to be. Yeah. And let's not act like the baby, whatever summer that was or year that was when he was rapping.

That Rockstar record is probably bigger than any Little Baby record, right? I think the Baby has three records that are probably bigger than any Little Baby record. Some people might feel like The Baby is a bigger artist He had a bigger moment I think Little Baby is a little bit more longevity in his career But yeah

I think a lot of people would say If you go numbers-wise The baby has definitely had bigger moments Than Little Baby for sure I just think artists To y'all point of Is there no growth in the music A lot of the artists like Little Baby

That do rap on the same type of sound And the same type of pocket are finally seeing that that can't last very long. I get why they never shift, I get why they didn't shift for the last few years because it seemed like, all right, people still like the same. They still like the same shit.

Now I think they're finally seeing, and I don't think it's just a little baby, that if you don't change your sound, it's going to pass you by. I don't believe that, though. They were before because it was working. Jada kiss ain't never changed his sound. He ain't never changed his flow.

he like that's no see i i i don't really agree there jade kiss has changed his flow a little i win but he also was in a different era too though mom jada kiss gonna hit that fade away every single time and you can't start it's the same flow and we love it okay i'm not saying all right flow baby i feel like has the same fucking drums for the last five years kiss from we are the streets so you my music yes okay that's different that's different then that's what i'm saying a lot of these these younger artists that have gotten into that new version of the trap pocket and trap drums are seeing the effects that it ends up being the same fucking thing. That's why I think Metro, and I know apples and oranges because he's a producer, but we have seen Metro

skyrocket because he has shown versatility in his sound and has changed it a bit. A lot of these artists are just going back to the exact same, yo, this was a hit in 2020, 2022, 23. I'm just going to, yo, let's just do that again. because they don't really, because they weren't going to be rappers to begin with until they found out they could make money off it. They don't really have a real understanding

of being a fucking musician, even if they don't play instruments to get in there and have Fat Joe's career survived this fucking long, not because Fat Joe is an amazing rapper, because Fat Joe is an amazing beat picker. That's why. Kiss, we are the streets, money, power, respect,

sounds nothing like Kiss of death or kiss the game goodbye. Kiss, yes, same flow. A lot of time saying the same shit and we love it, but it's on different production. KISS is going to go do some girl records. He's going to do some grimy hood shit.

KISS is always delivering in every single pillar of hip hop when it comes to production and audience. I don't think these young artists do that the way that KISS and rappers from my era did. Okay, so now we get into another conversation of a lot of these young artists are not really artists. Oh, I mean, that goes without. And I think that's what we're starting to see. It's a shorter shelf life on a lot of these quote-unquote artists because they're not really artists.

They caught a record. They caught a viral moment, took off with that, tried to sustain it. And then after a while, you realized, like, I don't know if this person is really the artist that we may think he or she is. And outside of certain producers like Metro Conductor, whatever you want to say, the bigger producers are, I feel like these artists don't even try to go to new producers. Whatever in-house team is doing the exact same shit, they just follow suit. They have no real opinion of the song. They say, all right, this is what you like.

All right, I'll rap on this the same way I've been rapping for five fucking years. Another thing we don't talk about enough, Rory, is the lifespan of a rapper, not real life, but like, artist's life. It's not really that long. No, never has been actually. Oh, no, baby is a veteran now. Yeah. So, like, we need to, it be that too sometimes. It's like, yo, you know, a lot of rappers, their, you know, careers are not that long.

Like you might get two, maybe three albums. You know what I'm saying? And then it's like you don't even know where this rapper or this artist is anymore after that unless they parlay it into something else. They either they're moving into a business or they get into maybe, you know, now they're streaming. You know what I'm saying? Like I'm seeing guys like, what's my man, first day out? T. Grizzly.

T. Grizzly. He on Gatting a lot of money. You see what I'm saying? He's still rapping, though. T. Grizzly is still rapping. When he wants to. when he wants to, but it ain't like,

he ain't got to go in there and put an album out. No. It's like, if he, if you tape's like, yo, we're going to put your new single on the server. Like, all right, I'm going to go lay that shit down tonight. If you're going to put it in the game. No, I feel you. If I could be able to be in my car in the game,

playing my shit, I ain't bet. But that's, we don't, we got to start talking to the fact that most rappers, their shelf life is not really that long in rap. And I mean, to that point, I want to give baby, I want to make this sound like we just shitting on baby. I give him a lot of, 2017, I mean, drip harder is I think when he,

really, really crossed over the 20. But 2017 to 2025 in this era is an insane. Amazing. Eight fucking years is crazy. Incredible. Incredible. And at one point, was dominating within those eight years. So I'm not here to take away anything Baby has done with his run. I just think this was an important album

to what the second half of his career is. And I just don't know if they took it as serious as I thought they would. Do we think there's troubles in the water with QC? Maybe. Yeah, QC. There was a, at one point QC was was dominating and going crazy and they were everywhere. And I don't know whether that was just because the city girls and little baby and the Migos at

the time were holding it up. Yeah. Cardi wasn't QC though. She was managed by QC. Oh yeah, she was assigned to QC. She was managed by QC for sure. For a little while, yeah. So yeah, I don't know. I don't know.

They've been quiet. And I don't mean quiet as in like they don't, they're, I just don't hear anything from them. They were everywhere and now they're nowhere. I mean, to Mall's point too, though, like, this is just the lifespan. We can't really discredit them because at one point you could say QC

was by far a modern day bad boy death row, no limit, cash money, like they were that. If you go through their roster at one time and at a block of five plus years, QC was completely dominated. Yeah.

But how long can that even last? Like, Nelly went diamond, but the run has to end. It ends. It just ends. A rapper's career is really not that long. But this is, all right, Yadi from that crew in that

era I've been critical and there's a bunch of Yadi music even lately that I'm not really a fan of whatsoever. But why Yadhi has continued to last is that he completely changes his sound every year. Like he's one of the few from that era

that I think gets it. Even if I don't like that taste of music, there's plenty of people that do. We don't think Yadhi skipped a step. At this point Yadhi might be more relevant than he's ever been. And it's because he continually changes his sound. Yeah, but he puts out music that we would not expect.

He's doing boom bap shit with Cole. He's doing fucking James Blake shit. He's doing child drums. He's doing everything. Child drums kept him. So, but he also, he still has records that sound like broccoli. Like, he, that's what I think baby kind of needed. The only person that is still extremely relevant off their sound is gonna.

I like the last Gunna project but it wasn't like Lightgears different than another Gunna project he's one of the few that I think is still reinventing the wheel and it's still working but I don't know how long that's gonna work for Gunna either

Can you pull up the little baby track list again? Yeah I got sure I think that one thing I would like to see Little Baby because I do think that Little Baby can rap Yeah, I would like to see him

rap with the rappers I agree with you like I would like to see Little Baby and Jada because Drake pulled the best out of Little Baby what I saw is the best of the best from a little baby, Drake pulled it out of them. Yeah, at that point, what was that? It was off an EP?

Yeah, that was scary hours. Yeah, it was scary hours. At that point when Baby had the best verse, I understood the hype when people were like, we're in the Little Baby era. When he was rapping at that point, I was like, whatever pocket that was, he went. Y'all are correct. And he was talking on that. Yeah, I would like to see Little Baby do more features with the rappers. I would like to see him do that. Like, let me just see with that.

Let me just give me a more of that So who do you consider the rappers I mean Jada, Fab Um He's rap with Cole He was on one of Cole's albums Like baby does rap

I'm saying I would like to see more of that And I think this could be Like why not have a Cole feature on this album Well I don't think Why not have a WALA feature on this album Why not have a Jada feature on this album Why not have you know me A Benny a Conway like you know

The guys that really going in You know from the same element the streets that could really talk that talk that you be talking like but on a different level like the upper echelon of the other other other of the street talk and maybe not even that maybe just somebody from it's like jig oh from Atlanta you know yeah I was gonna say that because I get what you're saying but that might interfere with the Atlanta sound that baby has that's why jID makes more sick look at who we never would have probably guessed would surpass everyone 21 Savage 21 Savage Raps with the Rappers.

He raps with the non-lyrical guys. He makes a bunch of different sounding music. True. And that's why 21, to me, is where he's at. Because he's continued, he'll rap with anybody. He won't sound great. He rap with Nas and sounded fun. Some of the best music I think Cole has made in the last 10 years has been with 21-7.

He brings the best out of 21. 21 kept up with Drake. Like, he is not scared to get in the booth. He is a different style lyrically. but it doesn't feel like you're listening to someone that's less of a caliber when he wraps the rappers

and I think Baby definitely has the talent to do the same thing who do I just would like to know like who these dudes be in the studios with hos? Like who be

those are the best A&Rs right there but like who do like somebody a little bit like what is a session a little baby session like like who's in there? I don't think it's probably at this point in his career

as crazy as you might think no I'm not saying I want to know like I want to know like who's the trusted brain in the room that's there in the room that's there for every song. You know what I mean?

Like who's doing that with Little Baby? Because again, I think that Little Baby can really rap. I just don't know with his, who's his, you know, who's his circle of, you know, if they think it's crazy, if they think it's hard, like that's going on the album. Like, who's that circle? Yeah.

And I mean, that is something that I feel like casual fans, rightfully so, never bring up in their brand. Like there's some artists that, still would have made it and still would have been great, but a lot of why they have lasted so long is because of the people they have around them. Like, not everyone is blessed with a 40. Right.

Not everyone is blessed with a sound wave. These are people that are 50, 50 partners on how we're making this fucking music. And, you know, a lot of rappers that come from certain environments aren't blessed to just have, their friends didn't have the opportunities to even get to a point that they could do something like that.

so yeah, they don't have anyone around them that is really guiding their production. It's just the homies that are like, yo, that shit is hot. And their homies have been right a lot because they understand what's actually playing in the street at the time, but that is not a, I guess, a long-lasting strategy. Like, you do need other people in there.

Yeah. So, but speaking of Gunna, his lawyer came back out. Because, you know, a lot of people saw that thug was on Baby's album. There's obviously been some, Not back and forth. And I think Thug poses something don't associate with no rats

or something like that. That was a fake tweet, I think. Oh. No one could really find a source of that tweet. I think that was all Photoshop. But of course it got brought back up when they saw that Thug was on Baby's album and, you know, Baby Unfollow Gunna

and there's clearly not a relationship there anymore. And his attorney posted an entire, I wouldn't even call it a caption. Was this on Twitter? Yeah, on Twitter. His lawyer, which I didn't catch his name, but I was Gunna's attorney, but I am not speaking on his behalf. This is a long post solely to set out the truth.

Gunna did not cooperate and did nothing and said nothing to cause harm to Thug's case. He spent eight months in jail and was released December 22 after entering a plea. Gunna's plea could not and was not used in Thug's trial, and he was never even named as a witness. He received a five-year suspended sentence with no reporting, no travel restrictions, no living restrictions, and no probation. Over the last two years from media reports, he has performed all over the world, achieved international fame and recognition earned millions of dollars. Thug went on to trial and eventually pled guilty after spending 30 months in jail, received 15 years probation with reporting conditions and is not even allowed to live in Atlanta.

Those that have and continue to badmouth gunna get over it. I ain't like the end. Nuff said. Because I just know the lawyer never said that. The lawyer might have said that. You know what I mean? He might have said enough said. I'm done talking. That's it.

I mean, I'm not the gauge of what's snitching and what isn't in the streets, but I feel what the lawyer's saying. Yeah, I mean, I understand. I get it. There's a code. No matter what, if you say anything about anyone, you're a snitch, and I understand that. But let's get into reality of a young rapper that Gunna has even said. He's not really like that guy.

That was at the height of his career, millions of millions of people. of dollars at stake, family at stake, you're an artist, you're not really street guy. If you know no one is going to be harmed, you're, you saying that YSL is a gang that can't be used in your co-defendant's trial? What are we doing here? Again, like, what are we doing? I've always stood on the side of whatever Thug said. If Thug come out and say gun and rat it on him, then we got to take that to be a fact.

If Thug never said that, then, you know, maybe he's not. But all right, let me ask you, because you understand that side of the world way more than I do. I can, I'm just assuming, but I can safely assume that in thug taking a plea as well, there was some admission that YSL was a gang. Well, yeah, it would have, have been, yeah. So what are we talking about here? Yeah, but then, but at the time, if I'm standing on YSL is not a gang, and then you Rory go up there and be like, you know, YSL is a gang.

New Roy Moore is a gang. You know what I'm saying? And I'm saying we not. And you aren't in court saying, no, it is. You know, then take from that what you will. But, I mean, at the end of the day, both a gentleman are home. Gunner has no restrictions. Thug has some restrictions because obviously he was facing more.

So even though it was a RICO, I think his, you know, his name was indicated in more activity in YSA, more street activity in YSA, and Gunners was. But again, I'm still on the side. If thugs say he didn't snitch, then that's what it is. If thugs say gunner did snitch, then that's what it is. I mean, everything else is speculation. You know, I know a little baby was sitting down with Charlemagne, I think.

And he spoke, he touched on that, spoke about that and said how he felt. Listen, you know, feel how you feel. But, again, I'm waiting for a definitive. Thug statement on whether or not he feels Gunner is good or no good. Do we think Thug has purposely not done that? Yes. Yeah, I agree with you too. Because we can all say that.

It would benefit Thug is definitely a smart guy. It would benefit Thug for people to fuck were Gunner. No, that is his artist, correct? Agreed, but has there been more attention and controversy around they're not actually being a statement? Like, no one's really moved on because Thug has not said anything. Right. I agree with you. That's his artist.

and if his artist has looked upon not as a snitch, it's probably a good business move. Right. But I think we'll find that out around the time Thug puts a project out. Mm-hmm. When Gunna ends up being on that album. I don't know. But then if your baby,

now what do you do? I mean, he said he said he stood it. Baby standing on it. He stood 10 toes. They are, I'm not, you know, I'm not fucking with him. Yeah. He said, there ain't no relationship there, right? Right? It ain't no relationship.

All right. So then it is what it is. If I brought a gun into the studio and it happened to go off in my jeans, would you put the footage out slash tell on me? No, it's not my pedigree, though. That footage would never see the light of day. No. To answer your question, no, I would not put the footage out. No, I would not put the footage out, nor would I tell on you. But we'd have to have a stern talking to about you bringing firearms. Yeah, we're going to have a talk. And now I know you don't know how to handle one. Yeah, yeah.

So don't bring it to this thing. If you went down your crib. We'd go have, we would have a conversation, but the public wouldn't know about the conversation and what happened. No, absolutely not. For those that don't know. They know. What was the name of this gentleman? I'm sorry that I'm not.

Rapper Too Low. Was doing a podcast and went into his pocket. Clearly he had a firearm in there. It discharged in his pants. Luckily, no one was hit. He wasn't even hit. He didn't plax go himself. but though it would like come on how fucking stupid no let's just like let's really be honest here

and this is why i'd be wanting guns to be legal so that people can learn how to fucking use them the right way why do you have on them jeans that would fit a toddler in two t sent up there reaching in your pocket with a gun that's off safety at a podcast that ain't even your fucking podcast i mean he was nervous he had to keep it on him i just feel like if i have to do a podcast with the gun in my pocket. Like, where am I at? Like, I just don't need to be going to do this podcast. Well, but they're all playing a people.

Yeah, like, I just don't. Listen, not that we're going to no jumper, but if we were to ever hypothetically go back to no jumper, I'm bringing a gun. Why? I'm petrified. They're beating up pastors. You think they...

Yeah, he has security, though. Security inside. They keep my white ass safe. No, they're beating up men of God. I'm definitely food over there. What are you talking about? Men of God getting knocked out at no jump. They are definitely even a red mark of my case.

Adam, what are you doing? They kept just like podcasting. Like, get the fuck out my studio, though. Yeah, show's over. Get the fuck out my studio. We ain't got to talk about nothing that's that important after that. Okay. Well, I will say I've been around people that podcasted that were used to always carrying a gun with them

because of their former slash current life. And I didn't think it was that weird. Yeah, but if I'm not, I don't have it in my pocket right here on set. Not on safety. Yeah, not on saying, like my man that's over there with me, he got it. You know, we're good. Like, it's still in, and it's still in arms reach. But, like, I don't need to be like this on set reaching in my pocket.

It's not on safety. I just don't, I don't got that. Thankfully, I don't have those type of issues. Yeah. But there were a lot of people, like, especially when podcasting first started, that were from an environment that they always carry the gun. Just because we're podcasting now. It doesn't change.

No, carry a gun is cool. When I walk out of here. No, carrying a gun is cool. But if we're sitting in here just to do a podcast and kick it, like, it don't need to be in my pocket, not on safety. Like, I just don't, I just don't understand that part of it. Now, walking outside and moving around in your day to day, some people have to. You know what I mean, and I understand that. But why you're in a certain environment where it's like, it's cool in here.

We're not on that type of. And there's staff in the room. Let me tell you something. And best would have had a motherfucking gun in his tight-ass jeans and shot at my fucking ankle. You know how mad ought to be. See, but that's why best don't wear. No, well, Best would never wear tight jeans either. See, that's the part you're not getting to.

Like, y'all got to get to that when it come to Best. And first of all, as Bracians is not all Albanians from Brooklyn are carrying guns. Bess is a tax-paying citizen. I don't go to fuck if it was Elliot. I don't know if it was Elliot. I don't know if he's from East New York and the Bronx. Cole Bess and asking where he's from. He went to Beach Channel High School.

He's from Queens, too. Can we have Best back? I really liked Best. Love Best. Yeah, we could definitely have Best back. But, of course, Best would follow, you know, you know, the laws of New York City. Oh, yeah.

Law-abiding citizens. I would not even know how to explain to Demaris's parents or Pige's parents that when we were podding and a gun went off and they got. Pige got hit in the leg. That's craziness. That is fucking nuts. But I mean, I'm glad no one was hurt. But also putting that out, like, we're acting like the cops are not on watching podcast.

Yeah, but depending on what state or city there. probably legal to carry firearm. So it doesn't matter. But like a 22 and had to be a 22 in them tight-ass jeans. Fucking. No, that wasn't no 22. That was that was that was that was at least a Glock, something like that for sure. Fucking idiot. That shit really pissed me off and Rory sent that to me. Because just as production, I'm like, yo, that shit was aimed at like me. Like that's all I'm thinking about. Like, no, that somebody could have, that could to hit somebody. Yeah.

And don't do that. Because that's leg level. That's like right here. So it's like... I'm shocked you didn't shoot himself. Yeah. That could have. And then he just like, oh, my bad.

Yeah, because he thought he was hit. He was waiting to feel that shit burning. The other host said, who got shot? That was the wildest, you know, who got shot? Like, what? Yeah, because everybody started moving behind the camera probably. So, you know, at that point, you're waiting to see somebody like, damn, did anybody get hit? That's lawsuit on their hands.

But thankfully, nobody was hit. Yeah. And I mean, you guys were fascinated with the fake guns at my house when we were recording there. I was not fascinated. They were also, none of them were loaded, too. That was the other thing. The fuck are you doing? I was going to say so, but I'm not going to say it. Thank you. It's fine.

Thank you. I'm chilling. 2025. I'm chilling all 2020. No, you're not. I'm not. I promise you. I'll promise, well, tell me when I ain't chilling. I've been chilled the first two episodes back.

The day after Super Bowl. I don't think you're going to be chilling. I'm going to be chill, man. I might even go to the Super Bowl. That's how chill I am. Yeah, I was actually, I'm going to probably go to New Orleans. And I'm booking my flight either Monday at 5 a.m. Or Sunday, the latest flight, just to make sure I can get back here to record with you after that performance.

Yeah, I might, I might go to the Super Bowl, depending on who's playing. We should record in New Orleans. I'm down. I had said to you if we needed to, I would be down to do it. Ironically, the flights are not, I went and looked yesterday. The flights are not as crazy as I thought they were. Oh, and after the tragedy last week, they're even lower, cheaper now. Listen, man, you know, it is what it is.

I didn't, I had nothing to do with it. I'm just telling you what it is. We didn't think you did, babe. I'm just saying, flights are cheaper. Congestion pricing in New Orleans, solve everything. Yeah, that gentleman wouldn't have paid the toll to go run over people. Hurricane's still going to hit, too. Sorry, baby, D. Do we have voicemails?

Yes, you do. You've got mail. Yo, what's up, Pye? Can y'all please help me with this situation because I'm truly puzzled. All right, so me and my sister have been debating on whether it's okay for a woman to approach a man. She says, no, no matter the circumstance, the environment, the situation, a woman should never approach a man. And I think the opposite. There's the same.

There's plenty of fish in the seat. But how do you expect to catch a fish if you never go fishing? facts why she's something like she re-noted from zane sex chronicles like she might have written down what she wanted to say which i actually see that's not even real person you see how it feels different to matters i appreciate that more than people calling it and saying um yeah because um and repeating themselves i actually appreciate what she did so that was the end of it she goes on to that was the end of it yes she wants to know is it okay for women to approach a man or she could course man where where we at these days. Yes, that's totally fun. Women should shoot their show. In fact, I prefer it. In fact.

Because like I said, I'm not going to be at nobody's podium to my youth is too aggressive, this down and the third. Like, listen. It does bring some relief in how you can flirt. If they pop it off first. Yeah. Like if you have a woman approached you and you know, you could tell she's, you know, sizing you up eyeing you and all that. She opening that door for that flirtatious energy. That's for a guy like myself, I appreciate that. I welcome that. And y'all are open to. wife and women who slid on you first. Absolutely. Yeah.

Okay. You don't take that as thirsty. No. Or like you're the prize. No, I don't look at myself like a prize. I'm just saying I like when a woman is aggressive because, again, it says something about that woman. It's like, okay, she knows what she wants. Not only does she know what she wants, she obviously sees something in me.

She's interested. She wants to tell, yes, I'm opening up this conversation for, you know, a different type of energy. It doesn't have to be, you know, a casual conversation. But like, yeah, I'm feeling you. I like you. Like, what's your, no, what's your situation? Are you single?

I like that. I like when women open up that door for that conversation. And you're willing to still pursue them even after they do that. Because so my fear with that is because I've always been like super confident and aggressive. But what I've learned or what I've experienced is that sometimes when you do that, even if a guy does like you, the, the, the, the, courting or the game that men play the chase because men do love chase some more than others but

men do love the chase they're not as involved in that chase or feel like they have to court as much because you've already shown that you're interested now me personally i can come at you but if you don't if you don't do what you're supposed to do i'll back the fuck up i don't get fuck who you yeah you'll open the door yeah he has to take it from there yeah i can hand you the basket but you got to shoot that motherfucker a couple times yeah hand you the basket is crazy you're going to take the whole hoop down yeah i'll hand you the basket the the ball, all that. Maybe they're going to take the whole hoop down and just give it to you.

Like here, nigga, play ball. You still got to play ball. She put the water in the base of the. Yeah, yeah, she's going to do all that. Look, I set up the court, nigga, go out there and hoop, nigg, niggish. But what I've seen is that a lot of people won't do that to the extent because it's kind of like the chase factor is not there for them. So that's what I'm asking for you guys.

What I think, I think a lot more women would do it. You know how women say men are usually jaded because they got their heart broke in like sixth grade and still are not over. it. I think women would like to shoot their shot, but one time in their life, they had the courage to do it and it didn't go the route they wanted to. And now they'll never do it. Because women don't handle rejection well at all. No. I saw a woman post other day that I'm still mad at Chrissy for what she, for proposing a gym. And I was like, damn, y'all still mad about that? Why? She wanted to propose that man. See, what was the problem with that baby? You know what the fuck

the problem is. I don't. Don't do that. She was ready to get married and Jim wasn't moving fast. Feminism and, you know. Yeah, because he ain't want to get married. They still ain't married, isn't? I mean, you know, it might be waiting for the right budget. I don't know. I don't know how much he's making off them fucking tapes he releasing. The budget is there.

I mean, I just don't. Jim is far from, far from Brooke. No, no, I'm just saying, no, maybe they want VH1 to, you know, put it together. They would have. VH1 would have. Yeah, I don't know. Wasn't there rumors? And I, sorry, because I really don't know.

Wasn't there rumors recently that they weren't together? It was rumors that he was married to Brooke Bailey. Yeah, that's, that's, I don't know if that ever got confirmed. I didn't look into it. No, that was not true. That was false. But yeah, I do appreciate a woman. Now, there's levels to aggression, though.

Like, you can't walk up to me and tell me, yo, pull your shit out. Like, let me see how big it. No, that's wild, no. You see what I'm saying? But women do that, though. They definitely do that. They do. You know what I'm saying?

Like, so it's like that is like, whoa. Like, you know what I'm saying? But I like, I think it's kind of flawed. Because I say, I'm like, are you flirting with me? Like, I'm that guy. Like, I go right. Once I see a woman that's flirting, like, I say it. And if she flirt, it's like, okay, we got to flirt the Olympics right now.

But then she said, yeah, what up? Why? Oh, that's, you can't talk to me like that. I'm the wrong. I'm the wrong. I'm the wrong guy to say, yeah, so what's up? Like, nah, don't talk because then I'm, because now I don't know, because then you don't want me to, don't call me into that ring to do that because you can't do that with me.

Like, you're going to lose that. I'll flirt all night with a girl and never see her again. Like, I'm the king of that. Like, we'll flirt all night. And it won't. You're a Libre. That's what Libra's do. I don't know if it's because of when I was born.

Is it for a void that you're filling or validation? Why do you play with people's emotions? It's because it's fun to him. Why do I play with people's emotions? She started flirting with me. But you were flirting with no intention, which by the way, I've done countless times. It's fun to flirt. It's healthy to flirt with no intention.

People do it on social media every day. It's fun to do that. But then when you be like, yo, so what's up? I'm going out. Like, what? We ain't never linking in real life. It's like, oh, okay, that was just for the... So then why women are asking, like, that's why women are asking this.

It depends. Because if we flirted all night and then I ask, and then I tell you, because I've had men that come in my inbox. But just because I'm flirting, what you don't mean I want to hang out, though. Wouldn't you... That's true. Yeah, you know what I'm saying? Just because I'm flirting, don't mean I want to, like, go get dinner and hang out. And I don't mean that.

And that's why women are afraid to approach because they don't know if they just a game to you. Like I'm flirting to like to get somewhere and you flirting. Men can feel validated that way. You flirting to marry? I've definitely. Have I'm flirting to marry before? How? You know you don't even know him.

Well, you're flirting to date. And they call it dating with intentions that you are dating someone with the idea that this would be a long-term thing once you get to know them. Okay. You're not dating just to fuck. All right. So what if a woman approaches me, she starts flirting? I think she's attractive. So okay, I flirt back.

But in the flirting, I kind of learn things about her. And I'm like, yo, that ain't really my like. you know what I'm saying because that happens like she worked at FS1 and like she could say something and I'm just like I don't know that was like what what's an example of what she could say in a flirting session in the grocery store

that can make you go eh I'm just saying it's just I don't know I just certain things that she might in the conversation that you just might be like that was a little bit of a turnoff but whatever like if she has three kids two baby daddies I don't know if flirts and that

information comes out what you mean I got to ask So if she has, you know, you have a family, you sing what's your situation? That's a crazy question of the produce. No, it's not. And you can tell by like what's in her cart, like clearly that she's feeding the family. If I see some fucking Capri Sons, I'm like, I'm like, I'm not busting down. They're mine.

Nah, dog. Those are all behind. Nah, if you got a bunch of, if you got the variety box of Capri Sons, you better have some kids. Don't tell me these, it's for you at, at, you put these in your, in your fridge at work. Don't tell me that. Don't tell me. snacks, all that shit.

Nah, nah, who's how many, okay. So where's the rascals? I get right to it once I look at the shopping car. Where's the rascals? Where's the rascals? Like, they're not here. Like, school, all right. How many, you know, how many kids you got?

Three, okay, you know. Father around. That's what you bust out in the first combo? Is the father around? Yeah, that's crazy question. In the flirting session? Like, we're flirting. I need to know if you're fucking kids' father.

Y'all still live together? You, like, what should you? Y'all single? When are you single? What are we doing? I think there's a... Can I come over and get comfortable? Or I got to have my glock in my pants like homie on the podcast.

There's another... I need to know about that of like, oh, I don't want to disrespect the man of that. Like, you could find a cuter way to ask that question. Why? You're trying to find... You still with your set? You still with your kid's father?

That ain't... That's not flirting to be. That's where we had a date. I don't want to find that out of the date. I'm not going to find that out before I start spending money on you. Like, nah. I want to find it out before we hit the checkout out. I'm going down...

Who's going to buy your groceries? I'm getting avocados like you are. Yo, what's up? Your kid's father still in the picture? Yo. Yeah. Hand me that peer. Yeah.

A word, no. Locked up. Okay. How many two baby daddies? Which way? First of all, what supermarket are we in? No way.

It's whole food. I don't know. Why not? The house is not long enough for that. Yeah. You mean whole food. Sea Town special. Key Foods.

All right. Trader Joe's. They in there. Baby Mama's is in Trader Joe's. They get that check every month. Yeah. They're spending that. First of all, Trader Joe is actually more affordable than people think.

But to have the baby mother with two baby fathers both locked up, three kids, I just don't know if she's in Trader Joe. I didn't say locked up. You just said that. I said, where is he? Is he still in the picture? And they said, locked up? All right, cool. Okay, yeah.

Is he locked up? Great. How much time he got? Life. Oh, yeah. So what's up? What time you need me to pick you up? He ain't coming home.

We ain't worried about him. But yeah, that's a valid question, baby, Dee. Is the kids fall is still in the picture? I'm the date. Not. Yeah. On the flirting session. How is that?

Y'all are crazy. So I'm going to find out on the date that her and this nigga is still together? No, not together. She has two baby fathers out of the three kids. If you ask, yo, you single, that's it. You don't got to, yo, your baby father. Are you single? That's it.

I feel like that's flirting. Like, if we're in the grocery store, I don't, you know, making eyes at each other and you walk up like, yo, you single? Like, that's flirting. Yeah, but what if a question is something that throws you off where she's not saying yes, but she ain't saying no. Would it don't go on a date, ma. What if she says,

some shit like, it depends. You know, y'all love that. That's me. That's what. Exactly. Y'all love it. It depends. It depends. It depends on who's asking.

Bitch, I'm asking. Like, who else you're standing in the aisle forward right now? I'm asking. First of all, in the supermarket saying, yo, my friend wants to talk to you would be the wildest. It's me asking. Yeah, like, I'm asking you. My friend and I'll be trying to talk to you. It depends on who's asking.

Yeah, you might try to hook. You might be trying to hook me up with like, you know, anybody. Your dad. Somebody. My dad. At the supermarket. That's my pops type right there. You're my pop.

You ain't for me, but I can call Pocker FaceTime pops right now. Who does that? Or like if you got a brother and it's like, yo, this is like my brother's like genuine type. Or it could be somebody that you recognize. Listen, me, my brother got a huge trust. They're my brothers for a reason.

If a girl came up to me and said she wanted to hook me up with her homegirl and showed me in a supermarket, a photo of her, I would be terrified. That's like murder shit to me. Yeah, it's like, yo, you got a- I got a friend.

That's not even here. So I'm having a, okay, so I'm not really talking for the masses with this conversation. I'm kind of talking about us because we are public figures, right? So people know us that we don't know. So if somebody might come up in the grocery store and be like, yo, my home girl has the biggest crush on you, like, da-da-da-da-da. That type of thing. Like, she fire here, show it. You're not interested?

If she bad, if the home girl IG go crazy, she only got 250 followers, no kids. Come on. Like y'all, you're folding. Y'all folding. I'm gonna be surprised and I ain't following her, right? Yeah, that's like nine soft. That's a girl version. 50 follows bad, no kids?

Nah, you just named. That's the Loch Ness monster you just named. That shit don't exist. Remember, I told a story a long, long, long time ago on this podcast of when Mandy was out at a party one night and that happened to her. Like a girl had said she had a crush on me and Mandy faith-tapped me. I'm like, what I'm supposed to do with this? Like, what you want me to do?

So awkward. Now we're just looking at each other. You want me to drive from Jersey to Brooklyn? And you know, your face looks wild. Your face looks wild fat on FaceTime too. Look like you looking through the ring camera. So now you're sitting there looking, now you're sitting there looking stupid. Like, yeah, it's like, oh, what's up?

You're going to say what's up twice maybe. And then we're like, yo. I don't have no red. Yo, what's up? Oh, you got a crush on me? Say word. What's your name? What's your IG?

Say word. I know I got no words. Saying say word while somebody's holding a phone. Say word. People just don't know how to flirt. I'm telling you. Try to flirt with somebody and that don't know. how to flirt. It's the funniest shit ever. I got caught. Saturday, I wouldn't have replied,

but I did leave there thinking what would I have said if that was even a situation? A girl came up to me and said, hey, handsome and batted her eyes. And I froze up. It wouldn't have been a thing regardless, but I was trying to think in the hypothetical, like, I wouldn't even know what to say back to you. Bro, you should have just over the Jersey club music. She was an escort, swing that shit. She can't just like Roy. She's selling ass, man. When you was at a party? Yeah, It was at the Founders Nation. She was selling pussy. She was not selling pussy.

All right, man. Y'all swear until y'all see the tax returns. No, you swear every girl's selling pussy. Not every girl. Just the girls that's selling pussy. It's a difference. She was selling ass. Hey, handsome.

Was it two I-bats? I'm that. It was like, you know, it was like. It was like, you know, cost $200 dollars to hit. That's not. Oh, she had the $200 eyeless. Yeah. I'm hitting with a hey-handsome and I don't sell pussy.

I've hit a nigga with a nigga with. But you don't blink twice. Now, I look no. I'm a little offended. Like I'm that non-desirable that a woman would find me handsome at a party? That's crazy. She has to be a prostitute. No one would like me.

No, she finds him handsome, but you got to pay to play. You don't think Roy could get pussy for free? I would. I've never paid for pussy. I hope he would get pussy. The only pussy I've ever gotten is free. You never pay for it. We're not doing this.

It's 2025. Lie to me. Lide of me. Tell me lies. Make it sound good. Make it sound. You never pay for pussy. No.

He's lying. It's documented on camera you told me you pay. for pussy before. No, I paid for pussy for Demaris. No, no, no, no. That was... I have taken women out on dates. Like, yeah, I've... That's not... That's not paid... I've paid... Money was attached to. That's not paid for pussy, man. I'm talking about

send the wire, send the Zell. 1.5, right? Oh, no. Bro, let me tell you something. If I ever fired... The only thing that's on camera was Demaris's birthday when I paid for pussy for her. I think this was years, years ago. Who? Pape for her. I ain't get. So what you pay for?

Yeah, you definitely said you paid for pussy before. Because I was always on the side of I've never done that. Neither have I. Okay. My bad, I could be wrong. I stand corrected. Here's why I would not pay for pussy. It's not on a moral fucking ground. I'd have to wear a condom. I'm not doing that. No, you don't. No, you don't. Depending on how much you pay you.

I don't have that much you pay. I don't. I know what somebody is. Yo, are you good? My bad. I'm sorry. So yes, young lady, we do think that it's okay to flirt with men, to be aggressive. I think it's actually kind of sexy when a woman approaches a guy. You know, she's confident and she's, you know, she can hold a conversation and let a guy know. Hey, listen, I would like to hang out for more time with you.

Let's go on the date. Like, I think that's fly. Yeah. Why not? Bag me. Let me be the little. Let me be the little spoon. Like, take me out.

Yeah, bag me. Get me lit. 2025. Bag me. Bag me. Bag me at 2025. If you out there, bag me, let me see something. Yeah.

I used to because y'all, when you y'all be talking like, guys don't know how to flirt. They don't know how to court. All right, well, let's see if you know how to flirt. Just flirt. I ain't saying you got to court me and all. I know how to, I could take it from there. But let me see what, we need to see what women flirt like. Well, Ma, can you teach me how to, I'm, my flirting is like, my flirting.

I don't know. I need to learn how to flirt. Rule number one to flirt, don't ask for his IG. Oh, I don't, I don't give anybody my IG. I give them my false, like my fenceda. Because men get my IG and think they know me because of this fucking podcast or because I have a lot of followers, they think they know me. They think I'm the girl.

I'm a lot of followers. But why give you a fence to though? Just don't give them nothing. Yeah. Don't even give them the fenced. Because I don't want to have my phone number. Oh, you mean like you don't, you're trying to avoid giving them the number. Yeah.

So give me your Facebook. Give somebody to Facebook. I got to download an app on my phone to talk to you. Like, no, I'm not doing that. You could do what's app? That's crazy. I'm not doing it. I'm not texting a bite through WhatsApp that lives in America.

We live in the same country. I'm not using WhatsApp to talk to you. What's wrong with it? What's your IG line? You know I, you know, I fumbled the bag of all bags when we was in LA. We know, let it go. I'm her, baby Dee. See, she was baby.

You're trying to speak it back into existence. Maybe she'll listen one day. You don't know what I'm talking about, baby Dee. I know exactly what you talk about. Nah, baby Dee. I'm with her. In 2025, you do need to get. get this off your spirit.

No, it's been holding you down. I'm not, it's a weight. No, I'm not still thinking about it. Lower back. But when it comes up,

I'm just like, man, that was the fumble, wall fumbles right there. Maybe that was God keeping you from something that would have ruined you. Talk to me, baby D.

Now, see, this is why you in the room. Talk to me. Talk to me. Talk to me crazy. Sometimes that shit'll miss you. Yeah, sometimes.

Sometimes you miss your blessing. Like, we got to start admitting that sometimes. Well, could be married with kids right now. We have happy as fuck. Yeah, yo, you missed your blessing. Okay.

Sometimes you got to tell your friends, you know, I'm happy for you, but, yo, they outside, man, I ain't going to lie. I'm happy you got your family, though. And then as a wingman, I just... But we could be out here cleaning up right now. I assume my friend, I've seen my friend work before, and I assumed he was going to close there, but...

The one-yard line. I dropped that motherfucker. And somebody kicked it around. Like, if that was the case, I would have, like, when she typed in, her CVS shit and put her phone number. I would have tried to memorize it had I known you were going to know that's creepy.

Yeah, see, he's trying to go. He's trying to go Dexter flow on the jail. For his happiness. Nah, for my head. No, I'm cool. Do we have another voice might? That was it. Yeah, no, we have that.

Dexter shit. We can do, we can do one more. I remember her CVS number. I'd have been like, what? Like, how you do that? Maybe we'll, um, on Patreon, me and Mollah sit next to each other. He could teach me how to flirt.

We could practice flirting. Baby, I can't take that. I'm gonna be laughing. too much. I'll be laughing too much. We gotta try. I can't do that. We gotta try. Every time you say so I'm gonna just start laughing. Like, all right, baby. This is what you would say? We are getting our acting bad. I want to see you rope a guy in and then do the

one digit off trick and see if he'll do it. Where you leave the last number, he has to figure it out. Maybe he definitely do that and tell him if you really want to talk to me again, you'll figure it out and then walk off on a nigga. You've definitely done that before. When you're you from? Guess the area.

She only, she don't give the area code. That's what baby. That's it. sick, especially in New York. She don't give the area. They're just 917, 6, 4, 6, 718. He and there panicking. You're which is actually from.

Like, that shit is just an inconvenience at this point, because now I'm just going to have to text nine different people good morning. Yeah. Until somebody, like, now you just give me a task that is not even going to prove if I will be persistent or not. This is just annoying. This is going to take me nine minutes. You ever text some scammers back? Of course.

I love having fun of scammers. When you have a package at EPS, oh, yeah, love it. We need you to be liable. Cut the shit, man. 2025 just started stop Leave them people packages alone Crypto shit I always if I'm bored on a flight or something

will reply in my request I'm just like yo I'm all the way in Tell me what I gotta do How am I turning this 5 in a 500 Like wait all you need is my cash app And my debit card right? Oh shit yeah I got you Yeah

Just tell me what You are ready for number two Yeah What's going on y'all My name is Elle I'm from North Carolina Shout out to y'all Y'all are doing God's work with this podcast

Big L.A going. But I'm going to get right to it. What do you do when you have met your sexual match? And I mean, meeting somebody that not only matches your freak, but exceeds your freak meter. I'm 31. I've had my share of flings in my day. I've probably only been on like two or three serious relationships, but I'm used to being the freak in the relationship. I'm used to being the one that wants to have sex all the time. But in this recent relationship, I can't, I can't keep up. I'm being honest.

I can't keep up. The first two weeks, it was great. I'm like, oh, man, I've met my match. You know what I'm saying? Wake up having sex. Middle of the day sex. Sex before going to bed. Public sex.

Sex in the car. It's a long two weeks. Three months in. And, dog, I don't, I can't, I can't keep up. Like, and I know I'm going to get roasted by y'all in the comments, but I like this. out of sex. I like this girl. I feel like we like each other, but I can't keep up. I've met

my match. She has exceeded my freak meter. In y'all case, what would y'all do? I'm not here to clown L at all. I'm here to let me know that you, man. You can feel seen. We understand. It don't even be when you date a younger chick. It's when

you date a girl in her 30s is when it's tough to keep up. Yeah. young girls don't have sex drive like the women that are 34 years old right now and men being 34 35 we don't have the same sex drive that they have they go into overdrive with their clock I don't know what it is I feel you Elle she's just tough yeah man I'm not here to laugh at you um get a honey pack bro I don't know what to tell you get a honey back honeypack and some duce and just yeah man that's right to god just hold the sheets or maybe I mean is she is she if she's into

girls, maybe, I don't know. You got the, yeah, you're going to need a teammate, a sex toy or a teammate. Yeah, like bring a, you know, bring a girl in there, let them, you know, lick on each other while you watch sports and I don't know, something. You got to, I don't know, it's tough. When you can't keep up, and you realize, it's a humbling thing. You're like, God damn, again, you know, my, like, my nuts got a refill. Like, I, like, they be ready to bounce on you in 12 me. Like, God damn, I just, my nuts still wet.

Like, I just washed off with the rag. Just relax. And the worst be when they have a crazy sex driver, you're like, yo, I'm, I'm like half hard. Like, you just half-masked at that point. And they're like, I don't care. Like, not just like, all right, let me, give me five more minutes of me. Yeah, that's trying, like, trying to put jello through a keyhole. What you're doing?

Like, I can't, I can't do that. I can't do that with this shit right now. Like, you know what I mean? Like, you know what? Like, and if you ain't even like, if y'all close with you ain't there yet, where you don't let her see that shit softy, like, I'm not backing out the softy, like three months. months you definitely three months

I'm not you're not seeing the softy I'm sorry three months they gotta have some blood flowing in it I'm I'm two days two days you let them see the softie give a fuck two days is I'm missed the softy leaving the bathroom two days yeah no not two days she can't see you soft in two days

two days is too soon if you love me at my honey pack love me when it's love me when it's just laying there like love me when it's dead It's like, where are you doing? That should be looking pitiful. Tell me about it.

There ain't no blood in that motherfucker. She'd be looking pitiful. No, you backing out the stuff. I used to be that way, but like, the older I got, this is who I am, man. Grown women do not care about that shit, bro. Yeah, I mean, but two days. I still beat.

I don't know how growing you on two days. I don't know how grown you on two days. I first fucking night morning. What's up? This is my dick. Have you met him yet? This is my morning dick Women really don't care

We don't care about that shit We really don't care about that Now if you don't like Lay it down and do your best performance On the first night Now I'm gonna hide my soldier She's not seeing soft Until I knock it out

Because then at that point she's like All right cool I get it How long you had to know a girl Before you have sex with the lights on? First day Sex with the lights on first day Yeah Rory is a sick

Nicker First day out Or I don't have like intimacy issues like you guys do. What's wrong with fucking with the lights on? Y'all be fucking people you don't find attractive? No, I mean, yeah, I want to see that. But the, all, like, I, what, I'm not saying, I'm not saying, I'm not saying, I'm not saying, I'm not saying, I'm not saying, I'm not saying, I'm not saying, I'm not saying, I'm not saying, I'm not saying, I'm not saying. I'm not, but like, you have the lights on the room.

Like, like, not just, yeah, like these, you don't have to TV on, just the TV? No, unlike y'all, I've not fucked in this office. Like, TV or just all lights on the room. Either or? Nah. I'm not fuck you under fluorescent light. I'm not that confident yet to fuck you under fluorescent light in the first time. That's crazy.

You could see my veins through my skin. Yeah, like if you could see the balloon knot, her balloon not first night? That's why I got the lights on. That's crazy. Yeah, I don't know. I don't know about first night lights on. Now, morning sex, you know, the room is a little lit up. You know, sun is up.

But daylight is like flattering. So, like, in daylight, I look like caramel. Fluorescent light and I look like gray. Like, nah, we're not doing it. So first of all, y'all are fucking this person before both y'all brush your teeth, but the lights is where we draw the line. Now, I always get up and brush my teeth before she was. Yeah, I'm going to get up and scabished through his shit and find the my watch.

If I have the option, yes, I'd rather go brush my teeth and she brushes her teeth. But y'all are about to tell me in the years that you guys have been sexually active, you are not having morning sex before the teeth were brushed. Only with people I've been with the years. Yeah, if we together, then yeah, of course. Man, you at her crib, you don't have a toothbrush there, and she want to give you some pussy in the morning. You fucking.

She got some mouth for us. Something. We got to knock this dragon off the mouth a little bit. So a bottle of water. Yeah, we got to go sweet. We got to drink some tea, something. Like, I'm not just... No, tea and make it worse.

But you get the morning breath head. Tea is dehydrate. The morning breath head, right? It's a little warmer. Now that's crazy. I don't care. What time it is is warm? You...

That mouth be warm. Morning breath is wild. 10 p.m. 10 a.m. that mouth warm. Don't. Someone on someone specific? Women, yeah. Don't try to eat

Don't try to eat my pussy With the bacteria From last night's steak And Stella Artoine It's different though Because I have like an open wound You could like You could

A dirty mouth on a dick It's fine And then I'm supposed to go sit On that same It's your mouth No it's not But it's back You carry bacteria in your mouth

You need to wash your mouth Bacteria everywhere Before you put your mouth By the dirt Don't hurt I'll just All right So do y'all have sex

With a person For the first time Have you ever had sex with a person for the first time? And it was like morning, like daylight? Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

It didn't happen the night before. Like, we were either too tired or something. Yeah. And then fucked in the morning. Yeah. Yeah. Y'all niggas be in love with your flings. 100%.

It was supposed to be a fling. It lasted too long. Ten years? A fling lasted ten years. Look at you baby D. D. Fling. D. Finging. I never had to be a thing.

I've never had a successful fling. Like a success. Like when I went into it for it to be a fling, it never, relationship. Turned into a thing? Mm-hmm. Yeah, baby, dear, you look like you can't have sex with somebody and that just be sex.

You look like, it's like a nigga sign a contract once you have sex with you. Like, nigga, we go together. Nah, it's not always me that is the one that's trying to write shit down in ink. Niggas have gone into things thinking it was going to be a fling and then shit. Go ahead and therapy for it.

Say you're going to turn them every which way, Balus. He sounded like starting when she was reading off the paper about the fish in the sea if you don't go that was chat GBT. Did she tell us her name?

She said her name. She didn't give us no name. That was chat GBT. We didn't give Elle advice. Elle, I think the best way. We did. Go get your girl a girlfriend. Or a honeypack.

But also, I don't know, maybe he could give that speech of like, I feel like we're rushing too much into the sexual shit and like maybe we should ease back and get to know each other on like a No, he can't tell that. Women aren't going to take that. If you, if I'm a,

a super sexual person and you tell me that I'm gonna take like women don't take rejection well like you said I would take I would think something was wrong something is wrong or you can't keep up either something is wrong or you can't keep up with my sex drive either way now I no longer want to have sex with you because now I really like a guy

making me feel mad horny like now I feel nasty like now when I'm coming on to you I feel like some nasty horny bitch like no see now I'm never trying to fuck you ever again. See that's an awful I get that perspective but also It takes blood rushing to my dick for us to fuck. And sometimes I can't control that.

It's not a you thing. I just can't fuck ten times a day like I used to. Is it you just, y'all, you want sex or you just want to orgasm? Because, like, if he can eat you out until you come, then that shit suffice, right? Don't put that on him because now, don't do that to him. Because now you're signing him up for some shit. He probably don't feel like doing. I mean, that's his girl.

But I don't want you to give me head if you're not horny. If you're giving me head, just like, for the fuck of it, don't do that. Please. That's a relationship. I've had that before. What? Just say some. Just like a girl give you head and you can tell she ain't horny.

But like her rent was due. So it was like. And now I'm the one that paid for pussy. No, I didn't say I didn't pay for anything. She was just, you know, she was fucked up and she was depressed.

I feel like the rent due head would be crazy though. Nah, she was depressed because she knew she wasn't getting it for me. So now she just sucking dick. Yeah. Like, you know what I said? You're not going to end up on the podium?

Who me? Why? No, that was consensual. That was, I got the text messages. I'm like, Wack, I got text messages from my nextel. I don't play no games.

Just flipping over your side kid. I keep all my old phones. I ain't playing no games. I ain't, well, catch me in no bullshit. Has Wack been pulling up text messages? I haven't been keeping up with the latest No Jumper. Nah, I mean, you know, after the whole debacle outside Adam's studio, I seen him and Wack sat down and talked about the whole situation.

Adam was a little mad. Yeah, I haven't marked. I haven't watched it yet. Yeah, but I didn't really get into it, man. But I know I can see Adam was definitely, he trying to distance himself as far away from that as he possibly can. But Adam is fucked there. What are you going to do?

Tell whack he can't come back up there. It is definitely different. That's a whack show now. That's Wack Studio. That's what's whack run that shit, man. Hey, Adam, you're just the face, man. I mean, it's tough because he's made his brand that. So, like, that comes with it.

No, but according to Adam, that's not his brand. Well, he has the porn brand and gang brand. Yeah, but he's saying, nah, now you know how it is. Now he's trying to distance itself. I'm a nonviolent person. Well, he always knows. That's fine. Yeah, but now, you know, people getting beat up outside your studio,

and you know a lawsuit is coming behind that. Oh, for sure. Yeah. So, you know, Adam, he's trying to distance himself as far away from it as he possibly can. But, you know, I do think, obviously, they are going to, he's going to have to cooperate at some level. I think Adam, they're going to ask him for security footage. They're going to ask him for.

And I think he'll cooperate. Not that anyone would expect the opposite. it. But at some point, you think Adam must, you think Adam will give information that may incriminate WAC? Yeah. Okay. We'll see. And I, because it's not a not per se at Adam. He's just an admitted civilian that has said that he would, in that situation, do something. I would just, I would just, I would be, tax-paying civilian. I would be very, I'm looking forward to if, if Adam does cooperate with an investigation that may incriminate WAC. I'm, I'm waiting to see. what comes after that because obviously Adam and Wack have the probably the biggest show on

Adam's platform right now. I would say so yeah. It's a good show. That would naturally disrupt that, disturbed that, maybe put an end to that show. It would just be interesting to see what happens as a result of that. That's all. I mean, with Adam, I just feel like we've been to that compound. He does do a good job with security. People vetted. Like, it's, it's ran well as far as in the building. but yeah naturally you can't control what happens I don't really have sympathy is that if a lot of your brand

is gang member street stuff like you can only prevent so much gang members are gonna gang member so I don't have as much I feel for Adam because he wasn't part of that and he's gonna get sued no one else

I mean what did you expect to happen gang members are gonna gang member I get it like there's what it is um Demaris I saw that you had on our list I have not been keeping up with the Megan gossip I'm shocked

you didn't want to start with this. You disrespect me every pot. Keep going. What? What happened with Meg now? So Megan went public with Tori Craig, the basketball player, I'm assuming. He's a basketball player?

Yeah, y'all know the sports shit, not me. Okay, so Tori is a basketball player. Megan went public with him, posted a picture with him, and immediately some... Didn't they go public already? Well, yeah, I think that it had been rumor. They have been seen out together, but she posted a picture with him.

You know that's the official going public. New Year. It was a soft launch before. Yeah. Then he kept acting right for another two months And now it's a full out rebrand And now this side Some girls coming out saying she was the side chick

And he cheated on her He originally came down to Houston to see her But he just since she wasn't available He went to Megan the Stallion Didn't he have some crazy text messages that leaked That she leaked? Yeah But

He was telling her to milk her like squeeze the milk out of her tities Or something like that Yeah This is what Elle's going through Can't match Like when you meet your match in the freak department So he's He's alleging that she is, like, that she is making fake DMs and fake text messages.

Wait, so. He's fighting that. The side chick is saying that he cheated on Megan or she's saying. That he's been fucking with her since June, I want to say. Can you cheat on the side chick? No, but the side chicks don't care now. But she's saying she ain't the side, she's not the side chick. She's dating him.

Yeah, it's, yeah. She's dating. No, you're the side chick. That's what happens. Side chick's going on dates. Or you're just a chick that he's fucking. Not even a side chick. You're just one of a friend.

And honestly, I don't believe her. And this is why I don't believe her, because she's doing like so much that it's just kind of like you give that you're going for clout, not that you're the actual like side chick. But what would be the only response to all of that would be for quote unquote clout? Why on earth would you go public with that? Yeah. What are you getting out of it? Well, no, I'm saying if she was somebody that he was truly dating, like really dating and

your feelings are hurt. And it's like, no, fuck out of here. Like, you dating me, but you, you're popping out with Megan Estallion, but we're really dating. That's what she's trying to make it seem like it is. The public isn't going to get him to love her. Like, what the, if you're doing that, you're doing it for attention. I think some people, okay, yes.

It could be that you're doing it for attention. But I've also seen that happen with normal people. And it's not for attention. It's for my feelings are hurting. You're playing in my fucking face. Anytime, first of all, anytime you go to social media with anything, you're doing it for attention. You're not doing it for awareness.

She's doing that for attention. No, I completely believe that she's doing it for attention. But I also don't believe that she's the actual side chick. That's what I'm saying. You don't think he fucked with her at all? I don't, I don't think so. I don't think so. I think there's- He fucked with her.

You think so? Absolutely. These ball-playing niggas, these niggas, they knock, they fuck anything. Is that dirty macken? How? I don't know that niggins. I was that dirty macket. I don't know.

I can't confirm her. I don't know him. Yeah. Well, I mean, I hope Meg has a successful and fulfilling relationship. I hope so man Meg deserves a real loving healthy relationship She does

She deserves to not have Her name in the media She just got to have I think some people just don't have And I'm understanding this more and more I'm understanding that people Just don't have a certain level of discernment And I think Meg may be one of those people

That just, you know She doesn't Discernment is not her strong suit If we look to her history Of guys that she's attached herself to and, you know, given time of day two, it's just like, what did you think was going come out of that? Yeah.

Discernment, right? Just have a little more discernment. Okay, I'll say that to certain things. I'm not going to say that to her getting shot. No, I never said that. Yeah. To certain things. I never said that.

I'm just saying practice discernment when it comes to the type of energy, the type of guys you let around you, the type of guys you're intimate with women, not just make humans, people. Yeah. Practice more discernment. That's all. Yeah, but sometimes when people are admittedly going through grief, depression, probably an alcoholism habit, you tend to make very awful decisions.

And then you find out yourself worth is nothing. For sure. You have to come out of that. For sure. There's no judgment in it, but there is judgment if you don't learn from it eventually. And I also haven't met anybody in their early 20s with great discernment. I feel like sometimes because Meggson, is so tall in the shit that she

rap's about and she's so like voluptuous that people forget that when the majority of these decisions were being made, she was like 24 years old. Yeah. Yeah. She's young, but I mean... That's young. You can't tell a 24, 23 year old have better discernment. They don't know what the fuck. They don't even know they barely know what the fuck that mean.

So it's just you're being... They barely even know who they're y'all themselves at that age. No, exactly. So like, how the fuck I'm going to figure out what other people's flaws are? I barely know what my own are. That comes with growing. She's 30 something now. Now she's, let me see. She might be 29 now. Really? Meg's not even 30 yet? She was young when she came up.

She was in college when she came up. Wow. 29. Yeah. She's, yeah. Yep. She'll be 30 next month. Okay.

Well, she's 30. Let's hope that this one was, these decisions were made with sermon. Because if not, just go be single and figure out who the fuck you are. Meg, just go get you a... A relationship is not going to save you if you're not a whole. So, you know, and now you got to deal with fucking Instagram and... See, that's why. That's why, see, that's why girls, we have.

the soft launch. The soft launch was to kind of like... To fill it out for people to come out before I was... Now the rebrand happened. You know what I mean? The collab dropped and here they come. See, this is what makes... So she was...

I'll give her... She was probably practicing discernment. Soft launch. Kind of like, yeah, you know, we hang out, whatever. And still running to the bullshit. And even after I got... Like, even after they took a picture of us, the paparazzi got us out at dinner in New York City.

Like, you know, we've been seeing together. allegedly he was still texting this girl like he was texting this girl after that so it's like I just I don't know Maybe they weren't official Because Meg would say in a rap that Hey we're not dating I could fuck with other dudes She would say that

Yeah by her hot girl logic So maybe he was just being a hot boy And now it's official And then she got burnt Yeah and I feel like If this isn't it I think the Mallree brand could be great for her Me and Meg

Yeah I'm too short Respectfully I mean you're not sure as a man You feel me? short. She's going to say I'm too short and she's fucking Torrey Lane. Torrey Lane shorter than and the baby. She definitely has on record. The baby

dumb nickers is little. But I'm not saying you too short to fuck Meg what I was saying is that you wouldn't fuck Meg because she's so tall. You wouldn't be with her. You wouldn't be with her. I fuck Meg's. I fuck Chick's height. You would be with Meg? Knowing that Meg is that much taller than you? Why not? I'm secure. Yeah. Absolutely. It's more

or less a personality thing. You think any man based off how Meg the Stalian looks. Let's forget, because we don't know her personally. How she looks, we would go, nah, she's too tall for me. To be in a relationship with. I would never.

Some men are very insecure about that. I ain't one of them niggas. Put on some 10-inch heels while you added to, too. I don't give a fuck. Put that ass right next to my face when we ought to do. I don't care how tall she is. I don't give a fuck. Good, what?

I'm not even going to put on 40 below. It says, I put my regular flat shoes on and walk right next to ass. Baby D, I grew up in the park. I climbed trees, gates, all kind of shit. Meg is no problem Okay Absolutely And 2025 is the short king

Year from what I saw I don't know about that Who you saw that Twitter You should log the fuck off Yeah Elon's what's saying that I love short I'm short

I don't like There ain't tall eyes Knicks That I gotta stand up my tippy toes to kiss I don't think How told is Meg? 5, 9, 510 510 I think

Oh he said she's not that You know Put them heels on She's much taller But no I could do that I could do 510 Okay

Absolutely You're gonna stay I would stand on my tippy toes To kiss Meg Would you? I wouldn't have to, baby, dear. That's okay. If Meg has five inch heels on.

Tippy toes? If Meg has five inches on, more. You think I got to stand on my tippy toes? Yes, yes, I do. Yes, I do. I've dated girls 510 that had heels on. What are you talking about, baby, so Meg, so you telling me. Tipy toes?

More. Baby, I ain't had to stand on my tippy toes in probably 20-some years. How tall are you? 5'10. At 5-9, I would have to stand on my tippy toes to kiss Meg and I would do it. No, you would not. Who are you talking about? She's 5'10, I'm 5'9, and she has some heels on, depending on what heels, and men can afford

some high fucking heels. You think you would have to stand on your tippy toes? I, there, my heel, my heel would raise off the ground is what I'm saying? No, we're not, man. Hey, y'all are crazy. She's not 6'10 with those hills, what are you talk about? All right, if I'm 5'9 and she puts on heels that would make her, what, three, four inches taller?

Four or five, yeah. That puts her, I'm not good at mass. 6-2, 6-3? You think you would have to stand on your tippy toes to kiss her? Yes. No, you would not. You're bugging the fuck out. If I go like this, I'm not at 6'3.

You're crazy, man. You don't have to stand on your tippy toes. He got to raise his head at least. He got to tuck his head back. She's looking down while I'm looking up. For sure. For sure. Without question, which I'm fine with.

Let the papar icy grab that. Look down on me, queen. Look down to chick king. I submit. I'm at your service. See, that's how. I'm secure. I look down on your king. Yeah, I'm right here. So like, having her and his wife. Yeah, but I mean, that's wedding heels too and all that.

But yeah, there's nothing wrong with that. There ain't nothing wrong with it. I could stand on the couch at the club. Yeah, I figure it up. That's all I'm trying to tell you. You'll figure it to fuck out. We're both the same height when we lay down. Remember what niggies you try to get that off? Yes. I'm tall in the when I'm hitting it from the bag. That is true. No, you not. Because now I got to climb on the bed because you can't just I can't stand up and you can't stand up so now Denise got to be on the bed. Nah, that's when you're supposed to just put the phone book on the floor for him.

So you ain't to understand it, Queen. That's your problem now. Who still has a phone book? What do you have? Yellow pages? Yeah. They still get shipped to your house? No.

That would be honest. I have not got a yellow page of the mail. If I'm calling the fucking Homeland Security, there's a bomb in front of my. Anthrax in that for sure. Yeah. Absor fucking looly. Before we get out of here, obviously I've seen some comments.

on Twitter, on IG. Clearly, Julian is no longer with the podcast. We wish him the absolute best love to him. But yes, he's no longer part of the pod. Appreciate all the contributions and salute to him. And I think that's it. We'll be back to three, four more times, patreon.com forward slash new Rorya Mall.

See my 2025 predictions that I smoked already out the gate. You all took a good start. I think I might bat a thousand. I think out of all 15. that I wrote. It's some crazies on your list. There's some wild shit on your list, for sure. Really? Absolutely. You don't think we'll get a jelly rolling non song this year? Won't happen. I would love to hear that. Oh yeah, I'm not mad at it, but I don't think it's going happen. I love jelly roll, man. Yeah, I love them too. Um, but cool. We'll talk to you guys very soon.

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