New Rory & MAL - Episode 339 | Fenty Felons

Episode Date: January 24, 2025

First off, Baby D is out due to a family emergency. Please send nothing but love and prayers her way. But, let’s get into it. Fires are still burning through Southern California, and the city of Los Angeles wants to make sure their firefighters are appreciated by treating them to the soothing vocals of John Legend (2:23). To make matters worse, these men are incarcerated. They could’ve at least been treated to Sexxy Red (13:17). Speaking of which, Sexxy Red and Bruno Mars are dropping a new strip club anthem today (22:50). Once Demaris gets back, Rory has a few takes about Bruno he wants to debate her on. Then, we touch on the news that A$AP Rocky will not take a plea deal and will go to trial for gun charges (43:11). If he gets put behind bars, the whole C-Block better be using Rihanna’s “Fenty” line. We then get interrupted with breaking news about Kendrick Lamar’s announcement that SZA will be joining him for the Super Bowl Halftime Show (I promise this segment went fine) (57:10). We also discuss Mal’s idea to Uber to keep women safe (34:30), a wild piece of Mississippi legislation (53:00), and what Beyonce’s announcement could be about (1:16:50).For MORE Rory & Mal, make sure you subscribe to our Patreon community, for exclusive episodes, first access to tickets and merch sales, private live chats with the team, + more! https://www.patreon.com/newrorynmalFollow Rory: @ThisIsRoryFollow MAL: @MAL_ByTheWayFollow Demaris: https://linktr.ee/demarisg To watch the podcast on YouTube: https://bit.ly/NewRoryAndMALYouTube Don’t forget to follow the podcast for free wherever you're listening or by using this link: https://bit.ly/NewRoryAndMAL Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoicesSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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We don't know which way to go Because we're on in every people To take it slow Take it slow Mall. Whenever you say, first of all, let's start. Whenever you say my name like that, I get scared. Because it's never, it's never, it's never, no, it's a serious topic, man.

Oh, serious time? Yeah, sometimes we could come in and be serious. Are we on serious time today? When are we not? We haven't had a serious conversation in a long time. Well, I have a serious one. Okay. Can you imagine?

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Can you imagine sacrificing yourself by running into a burning building or house, lack of resources underpaid, watching people lose all of their possessions, photos of their family, and then the reward that you are given is John Legend singing to you. Why are you doing this? Not bonus time, not extra money, not more water. Instead of going to see your families, you've been fighting fires for days on end. No water for yourself, no food. you are going to sit at a picnic table in a parking lot.

And John Legend is going to come sing all of you and all of me. Yeah. To 60 grown men with ash on their face. But see? Maybe we should take it slow. Take it slow. I just went into a burning house. You know what's...

Hold on. I'm going to tell you what's funny about this. The only person rocking their head is the black guy on the far left He's the only one who's really like This is John Legend Like, where's Rick Ross at?

That clap, don't clap See, and we got to get away from that We don't have to clap We don't have to clap I came on here about three months ago, Peach And I fucking had something to say About John Legend, the internet killed me Oh John, you know, he's cool

He's, you know People laugh, man Yeah, but it's like This is the shit I was talking about this cruise ship karaoke shit why would you have john legend singing for firefighters at picnic tables how would you maybe to be more sensitive to our heroes in los angeles everywhere in california firefighters that drove hours on end outside of california those heroes you have to be sensitive to how would you remix all of me in your voice your john legend voice

I don't want to do this I don't want to But why not Why not do something like Connect the hose Hose Whatever happened to give California took it slow

Whatever happened to giving like Firemen Something that they could appreciate Why not bring like Ruby Rose Bring like Ruby Rose And India love out there And have them like you know It was a porn star or only fans girl

I forgot because I tried not to retain that information from my own sanity. But one of them I thought was doing her patriotic duty. She was saying she was going to go around fucking the firefighters. Yeah. Where is that lady yet? Like she was going to go from firehouse to fire. Where is she at? To me, yeah. As an American, you have to go with your skill set. That's how we all become one and push this country forward. Her skill set is her vagina. Right. So she went and used what she was going to do. I can't really offer much to the firefighters except for donations and good words and appreciation and prayers and everything like that. We appreciate all She has something that's better than all of that.

Yeah. A vagina. Give the firefighters something that they can, some tangible, something tangible. Don't give me John Legend at a picnic table. See, because I'm too, I would have been out there. I would have got to have walked away. I'm not sitting there for this shit. I don't want to hear John.

My wife and kids don't even know if I'm alive yet. Yeah, like I got ash in my lungs and John Legend is singing. And I got a turkey sandwich on the table. How out of touch are celebrities at this point? This is like the ego is getting insane. after they tried to save COVID with that fucking song where they went from Zoom. Who was it, David Guetta?

What song with the thing? Who wasn't that performed on the top of the building? Can you look that up with that what that was? Oh, no, when he tried to end racism, he said shout out to George Floyd. No, not that one. It was like Ashton Coucher and a bunch of guys, Brian Cranston.

They were singing a song during COVID to make us all feel better about being trapped in our houses that have maybe, I don't know, one fraction of the square footage that they have. they was walking around like we understand as celebrities what you're going through while I walk through my hundred of acres right now

you don't even know you're still trapped when you're in their houses and they did a whole Zoom shit at what point are they going to realize how out of touch they are? Who pitched that? Did John go by himself and was like

yo I want to bring these heroes some food or something then someone requested it like was this a karaoke situation? At what point do we just say we understand that people really just don't care

Or does celebrities care? And I'm not even going to put this on John's jacket because I don't really know how that went. They do care about their image and people thinking they're doing good things. Is that what it is? I mean, I think that it helps with the perception that, you know, in times of tragedy because, you know, celebrities are well off and, you know, they can afford to if they lose things, you know, unfortunately, which some of them have in fires and things like that, you know, they have other properties. they can get things back, you know, they're more fortunate than others. So I think you have to put the perception out like, we care, we're here with the firefighters, you know, we support them, which I'm sure they do.

But I mean, at the end of it all, like having John Legend sit and sink, that's just not, it feels like it's for a look. It feels like it's for, it's not sincere, it's for social media, the guy standing in the corner, make sure you record this, send it to me when you're done recording so I can post it. It's just, I just don't, I don't like, I don't like things like that. And I'm not saying John Legend doesn't care about these firefighters. That's not what I'm saying. If he might genuinely care about that.

He probably does. And I'm sure he's done a lot of charitable work. He seems like a good guy. That we don't know about. And I'm not even here to shit on him. It's more of a celebrity thing. Yeah. I want to know who pitched that.

If the modern day Pearl Harbor happened in 2025 and the nurses needed a break and John went up in there, like just to check them out and sing, that would make total sense to me. A bunch of high testosterone. men going through trauma. You think John is who they was trying to hear? And what stupid about it is I can understand John going there and like just like having words with the firemen

and like, you know, thanking them and things like that. But why sing? That's like having Michael Jordan go there. He started hitting fadeaways on like the sergeant. Like it's like you don't have to do the thing that you do well when you come and support like local firemen, policemen, like just show up. Thank you.

You know, we appreciate you. maybe take a couple pictures, things like that. But to sing, that's just where you lose me. Like, John Legend didn't need to sing in that moment. Nobody needed to hear that. Maybe I sound like a hater because I just don't think they were John's demo. They weren't. Like, if Sting wanted to go up there, I think it may have worked out of it.

But even if Sting, it's like, don't perform, go in support. But you don't have to. I just, I'm just, I think the performance part is what seems a little forced and a little, you know, cringe to me. Like I just John Legend singing to firemen that are now battling fires and they're probably on their lunch break. It's just like, and you know before he gets to hey, John Legend will be at 2.30. Yeah. We're going to go sit down at the tables. It's just too staged.

And those are men. And even the ones, whatever gender, they're way tougher than me. Those are tough human beings. Yeah. My pussy ass would have loved a John Legend performance after I stub my toe or went through the traumatic things that I go through. those grown fucking tough men. Yeah, we were sexy red. Like, why?

They should have bought sexy red out there to do it. Sexy Red, you know, the color fire truck is red. You know what I mean, that's kind of on brand. Let sexy red go out there, twerk, bring her dances. You know, have at least a performance where men are like, okay, some nice shaped women out here. Like, it feels like we're at the strip club, but we're not, you know, that type of shit. John Legend, no, we don't need that. It reminds me of that Chris Rock joke when he was talking about the Make a Wish Foundation.

And one kid had wanted him to come. and, you know, celebrities, he's like, how come no one just asked him, maybe Pam Anderson is what that young kid wants to see? Like, I get it. I'm a celebrity, but maybe he just wants some titty before. I think after these men almost lost their lives, that would be the closest thing. I even think the ones that were married, their wives would give them a pass. Yeah, sexy red, she could have did it. I'm always down to see sexy red and some firemen. I'm cool with that. Those were actually the inmate firefighters. Which makes even more sense why sexy red should have been. out there. If I'm an inmate at a

correctional facility, I haven't touched the woman in probably years, haven't seen no real ass shaking. I'm looking for the hose. I was in prison. Just to get out of this bitch, I ran into a fire. Show me some pussy. Yeah, let me see some ass to shake. Don't get me

John Legend. That's like staying up late to watch the Apollo and Peebo Bryson's performing. It's like, where's fucking, where's L.L. Cool J? I stayed up to 2 in the morning and you give me Peebo Bryson. I'm incarcerated. I get out thinking I'm going to help, you know, his fresh air will be out, you know, at least not in the prison. I'm thinking maybe it's going to knock some time off. Then I found out it's not. John Legend and I'm an inmate. Oh, no, man. That's not even like,

remember when ODB was locked up and Wu-Tang went to perform at Rikers, I believe it was? Yeah. Like that, at least if it's men, I get. This is who they want to see. Right. What in a California correctional fucking prison? John Legend. What Six-O Crip is like, Yeah, now we need John. We need to hear John Legend. Nah, man. They got that. And you do get lifted.

Yeah. Them being incarcerated, firemen, like, first of all, that's crazy to take some men out of prison and say, hey, go fight these fires. But if you're going to do that, at least give them some entertainment that they can go back to their cells. Like, yeah, nah, you know, we was out there and lunch break, sexy red pulled up and a lotto. Somebody, like somebody they can enjoy these incarcerated men. Like John Legend? Nasty times, man. John, at least bring your wife.

No, see, that's what you go. No, don't do that. Please. Wait. What? No, don't do that. What's wrong with that? Because now you're saying you want men to see his wife lust over his wife.

It's just a little weird. It is January 23rd as we are recording this. I do think I want some more flowers for my 2025 predictions. This one isn't one that made my list. It was an off-mike one because I was too scared to say it. But I think this week kind of proved it. Did you see these sexy reds? and Martin Luther King family estate back and forth?

No. Okay. I heard about what's- There was a trend of making AI images of Martin Luther King in compromising situations and crazy shit. And Sexy Red has been known on Twitter to have people send her hilarious memes and photos and then she will post them.

So she posted this one of her and Martin Luther King at the club. And then understandably, Martin Luther King's daughter came and retweeted it and said, this is distasteful, explained everything that her father had done. Can you please take it down? Which, sexy red, I thought, did a great, mature thing by saying, you're right, I apologize, I'll take it down. But it did further prove my point off Mike that I think sexy red is a CIA agent. Because she posted an AI.

She targeted Martin Luther King. She targeted Martin Luther King? Yeah. She didn't make the video. Family was very upset about it. Yeah, she didn't make the video, though. But that was a little distasteful, though. You can't understand the humor in it.

And obviously somebody created it and put it online. It landed on her timeline. But her posting it is kind of like a agreeing with it. You know, so it's just a little distasteful. But again, man, the sensitive thing is, you know. No, I understand. I understand it. No, no.

I understand it. Actually, I'm not to say I fully understand. I empathize and can see why his family would be so upset about that. 100%. 100%. I get that. But again, I don't think, I don't think she mad. any disrespect.

And it's got to be frustrating because I feel like the MOK, I'm not even going to put it to the culture per se, because there's MLK fucking Toyota sales and shit. Like MOK weekend has become such a consumer thing that it's almost a mockery of these MOK sales and MOK holiday weekend shit.

Like, no, it's here to honor someone that did something great for our country. The party flyers are one thing, but it is getting out of him. The MLK. Bottle girls exist now. There was a woman going around at a strip club asking the bottle girls if Malcolm X or Martin Luther King would be a better tipper and then giving explanations on why. Content.

People try to create content. The way to honor. I understand everyone is talking about their environment. That's their bubble. They're bottle girls. They're talking about their life. I get that. At what point do we have some self-awareness of maybe this isn't the content we should do? Listen, man, people don't have discernment.

That's one thing that I'm grateful for, you know, and a lot of people just don't have it. You got to understand that. But again, I don't think that someone like Sexy Red intended to disrespect the legacy of Mon Luther King. Now, it is disrespectful, but I don't think that that was her thing of posting it of. I'm going to disrespect Martin Luther King's legacy by this. I think that this culture now memes and, you know, AI things, you know, of that nature, people just see them, repost them without thinking about the ramifications. Is this disrespectful?

should I be posting? Somebody like Sexy Red who has a huge platform has to be a little more responsible than most people on social media. The MLK Bottle Girls. Well, M.LK bottle girls can get that off. Sexy Red can't. Yeah.

And I, again, appreciated the matureness. It's one of the best back and forth I've seen on Twitter in quite some time as far as just coming to a calm resolution. Yeah. Yeah, I posted that not realizing that that could offend someone, especially a family member.

You're right. Take it out. But do you want to know the answers of the MLK bottle girls? of who would be a better tipper between Martin Luther King. Who do you think the consensus was? And why do you think the reason? Well, let me just dig into this a little bit.

If you know Malcolm X, you know Detroit Red. You know he was a pimp. He was hard on them hose. You know what I mean? So I don't think he was tipping no hose. I think the hose was tipping him. Okay. So the bottle girls I'll give some credit to were some historians in this case,

because they didn't bring up Malcolm's former name or former life. But they did say he was from the street. So I know he'd be throwing crazy cash in the strip club. No, see, it's a difference. He was from the streets, but he had- He was working in the strip club. He was pimping. It's different.

He ain't giving no girl, no money. They're giving him money. That's real pimping. Malcolm X was out there real pimping, man. This ain't no play pimping. It's real pimper when you talk about Detroit Red. Yeah. Yeah, so I want to know the answer.

But they didn't ask Detroit Red. They asked Malcolm X. Yeah, but I mean, you can't have Malcolm X without Detroit Red. I get it, but I feel like the devout Muslim that Malcolm X was, Martin Luther King would be my answer. Because at least he would be allowed to go into a strip club like that. Martin Luther King would be a better tipper. But they all went with Malcolm X.

I'm like, what's he tipping for? He doesn't even drink. Now, they don't know. They don't know. For them to say that, they don't know, they don't know what he came. Well, I mean, you was in Harlem at that time. Like, he wasn't outside. That Malcolm X was outside? You think me and Malcolm X walk the streets at the same time. And it was called Malcolm X Boulevard. Yeah. Yeah, no, Malcolm X ain't tipping.

So they probably was right in San Martin. What did they say, Martin or Malcolm? All of them said Malcolm except for one. Because it was all like, you know, Malcolm was a street guy. They don't know. They're young. They don't know. There's no way they could, they would think that Malcolm X would tip more than Markle.

They know him as Denzel Washington, Malcolm X. Yeah, see, no, no, no. Yeah, they got it all wrong. Definitely, I would go with Martin Luther the King, for sure. Out of all our historical figures, who do you think would be the best tipper? The best tipper? when you say historical figures, who are you talking about? It could be presidents, civil rights leaders, anyone of high stature, and they have a lot on the line.

I'll put it that way. I'm not saying just some rich, popular guy because we know they're going to be spending money. Hmm. I think JFK went fucking nuts. Yeah? You think Marilyn was giving that up for free? Yeah, JFK probably. I think he was going past what her fee was in tipping crazy.

And I think his pops, who was the bootlegger, taught him how to tip. Yeah, JFK might have been a good tipper. I mean, he grew up in the bootleg strip club type of thing, underground nightlife. I mean, what about Andrew Jackson? He's on a $20 bill, right? You think he was throwing himself at this? That's kind of like giving away pictures. Like, right?

Like, he's just giving away pictures of himself. Yeah. Andrew Jackson would probably be a good tip of. I don't know. Knowing about that era of our leaders between leaving because they, didn't want to pay tax on tips at all with England and the whole free labor thing that they were doing. I don't know.

I think they were penny pension. They didn't want to pay England or the people doing the work. I think it's weird that the girls thought that Malcolm, I mean, Martin would be, because I look at Martin, like he was the type of guy. He'll go on the strip club and ask the girls, why are you doing this? Like, you shouldn't be doing this. Like, you're too pretty to be doing this. Like, Martin seems like he was that type of guy.

I think he was a devout family man and devout to the cause. Because I always always came when he died. He was in his 30s, right? Yeah. Yeah, so we told him out a guy that, yeah, I could see Martin going into strip club and trying to like... Oh, see, I don't start on your CIA narrative. What? We tried to say Martin was in these streets.

Martin had these side chicks. No, that's a CIA thing. Oh, no, no, no. I'm not... You're giving in... No, no, no. I'm not saying as a 39-year... old man.

He still has some, you know. But 39 in the 60s is like 75. Yeah, because when you look at pictures of Martin, it's like, yo, dog, how old was he? He looked like he was 50 for 50 years. No disrespect to Martin Luther the King, but they just was looking old back then. Yeah, everyone did look older. Gee, it was it the barbers? Was it the haircuts?

Do you believe in Larry David's theory that every generation gets better looking? It's hard to. It's going to be tough with this next one, though. That's the thing. Because a lot of these girls you think it's cute, like they just got a lot of work done. Yeah. Between getting work done and makeup, it is tough to figure that out.

Yeah. But I did agree with that up until my generation. I think every generation has gotten better looking by far. I'm not mad. Well, we definitely. Numbers why? Definitely take better care of ourselves. We don't age as bad.

Hmm. Or as fast. I see some pictures of Marr when he was 25. I'm like, what? There's no way. That was the film. It wasn't the film, bro. It was the mustache, the suit.

It was hard times, man. They was, listen. That civil rights shit put some years on our brothers, man. Jesus Christ. Yeah, that wore them out. The civil rights movement wore a lot of our leaders out, man. Before we get off the sexy red conversation, this one I will take credit for. Where are we at with my 2025 predictions?

I think I have at least three down. Sexy Red and Bruno Mars announced, well, I guess when you're listening to this, the record will be out. New feature they say. said it's the new strip club anthem, Bruno Mars. Who said that? They did. They did.

They did. And Justice texted that to me like four days ago. I fucked Justice is my God, but I'm not, I'm not believing that. You don't think Bruno Mars and Sexy Red are capable of creating an amazing strip club record? Oh, no. I think so. But I got to hear it first, though. I'm not going to just be like, yeah, nah, it's going to shake the clubs because justice said it.

No. He said some shit was going to shake the club, and it shook the club. For sure. For sure. His track record might be flawless now that I think. think about it. Now, I'm not going to take too much credit for this prediction because it wasn't a crazy one. Bruno having a number one record now and going with sexy red, he is going to reclaim his pop crown this year. It's laid out. So I'm taking that one as a stat, but I'm not going to do

a victory lap because it wasn't that crazy of that prediction. I get the Bruno Mars thing. Bruno Mars is obviously talented. He's one of the biggest artists we have. But it's still something I'm just indifferent about when it comes to Bruno Mars. Like, I don't know if I believe Bruno Mars. We've discussed this. There is, and this was one of the major things I was killed for when we had that Bruno Mar's debate of I feel a lack of authenticity to me personally. And who the fuck am I? I'm not the scale of authenticity.

I don't feel it in a warm way, I believe, is what I said, and I got killed. I think it's become like an adjective on Reddit in our communities of it's not warm enough. Yeah. Yeah, it's a little too polished me. A little too good. But I'm going into this. I've heard rumors that Jane. sponsor who is writing a lot of this stuff again. So I'm here for that. I'm not going into this

with hate her ears yet. I can't wait to discuss it Monday because I do have some outrageous takes that I want to give, especially with Demaris. About Bruno Mars? Damaris and I had an argument off Mike yesterday that I want to have after we hear the song. Oh, and for those, because you have to clear everything up now. For those that are wondering where Demaris is, she had to get up right before this episode to deal with some family stuff. Her mother is sick. Her dog is also about to be put down. So everyone please flood Demaris with positive prayers and comments. She definitely needs it.

Love to Baby D. Yeah, everyone just be very, very kind to her in her comments and send her love. Right. It's definitely a tough time right now. But when she gets back on Monday, no, we're having that Bruno Mars debate. I'm down for it. Especially after we hit a record. One trick pony.

You think Bruno's a one trick pony? I can't say he's a one trick because he kind of, he kind of, he does the character thing very well. Like, whatever type of sound he's coming out with for his next album, Bruno does a good job of actually living and becoming that character throughout the year. And by the way, I think Bruno Mars, you could say is a legend already and will definitely become one. He can still be a one trick, boni. No, I mean, to me, Bruno Mars is the... It's a really, really good trick.

It's like if you go on a good cruise with, like, a cool chick, you have a good time. And it's like every night, like, the karaoke, the guy that's, like, performing on the cruise ship. It's like, yo, he's dope. You know what I'm saying? Like, it's like every song sounds like the song that he does. You know what I'm saying? He has rhythm. He can dance.

It's like, yo, he might be able to become somebody if he get off this crew shit. That's where I think Bruno Mars, I think, got off the crew shit. But it's still kind of like, I just feel like he could hear a song that somebody else created, like an artist did and be like, I can sing that and perform that exactly the way that artist did. He's the dad. It's like, who is Bruno Mars? Like, I still don't know who Bruno Mars. is. He's the definition of a pop star in that way. If you need me to do something, I will do it perfectly. I can do it. Show me what you need. I will recreate whatever genre that you want me to vulture.

Well, yeah, yeah. Yes, I understand what you say when you say to Volture, I get it. Because it's just like if you go to a resort and, you know, a guy that the guy that's the waiter is Michael Jackson at night. He performs at night. It's like, oh, that's the bartender that was here on the beach in the morning. At night, now he's Michael Jackson. And it's like, oh, shit, I didn't even know he could dance and sing. That's what Bruno Mars reminds. He's talented, obviously. That's not what we're talking about. I just don't connect to Bruno Mars. Like, I don't, you, as great as Silk Sonic album was and what was the other one before that, 24-carat magic? It's a perfect album.

Great albums. You can check my phone right now, Rory. I have not played a Bruno Mars song in probably two and a half, three years. Yeah. It's like somebody just went to him. said, there's a void in New Jack Swing. And Bruno said, you know what? I'm going to do it better than everyone that's ever done it.

Yeah. But I'm not going to like it. Yeah, I just, I don't, I don't, and I was surprised. I didn't know, again, pardon my ignorance, I looked at Bruno Mars as far as like, where he's out on Apple with his numbers yearly. I didn't know this many people was listening to Bruno Mars. I get it. He's a star.

There's no doubt about it. Once you do the Super Bowl halftime show, obviously you have to be, you know, at a certain level. But I just didn't know. I didn't know Bruno Mars was, was. was out here doing numbers like that every year. Oh, no, he's one of the biggest... In the world.

I had no idea. Again, because I don't... And I've never heard you play Bruno Mars, never walked in the office and heard anybody playing Bruno Mars. Well, that's not our shit, but that wouldn't mean that it's not... But I've never heard... Where do you hear Bruno Mars at?

When Club at you been... When 24... Carrey Magic came out, I heard it literally everywhere. But you didn't hear... I think they had... You heard it like going into Bloomingdale. The speakers that they use for 9-11

for the plane sounds, I would just walk around the city and hear Bruno... I'm saying. You hear it when you're going shopping. They'll be playing it. It's good like shopping music. It's like he makes you remind you that you need soccer. There's a very ironic thing going on right now, but I'm not going to go down that rabbit. What is irony? Most Def had a very similar take about another artist. About who? Nobody.

Who's the art? No, let's talk about. Who's ours? About Nause? Really? No, it's fine. We can move on. No way most deaf said that about Nause. Because he didn't. I'm lying. Oh, okay, all right, all right. While we're talking about culture vultures, and we will finish that Bruno Mars combo with Baby D next week because she is like the Bruno stand. And I don't want to sit here and shit on Bruno without someone that represents his camp

to prove that Maul and I are wrong because I know there's a lot of Bruno lovers out there. I'm just hares. I'm admitting I'm wrong. I had no idea Bruno was doing those numbers every year. Like I had no idea. I'm wrong. I'm saying me personally, I just can't connect to Bruno

Mars's music like that. Like, I recognize that it's good. Like, whenever he drops an album, I listen to it. I'm like, okay, nah, he dope. But I never go back to it and play it. I'd never, like, go back and play it. Let me hear that Bruno Mars album. I've never said that in my life.

Speaking of Culture Vultures, was it last episode or two episodes before that when we were talking about the Mac Miller album, and that got us into somewhat of the white-on-white crime that happens within hip-hop media and even hip-hop fans, for that matter. I love white on white crime. When we're not really like, we go in wanting to hate other white people because we want to be the white people in the space.

It was a fun, lighthearted conversation, whatever. I'm not saying that DJ Vlad heard that conversation whatsoever. I think it's actually a coincidence and funny, but he went on Math Office podcast and discussed white-on-white crime. Okay. He brought up that he does not get along with me and that all white people in media

do that because they want to be the only one there and to prove that all the other white people aren't as hip hop as they are. Which I thought was funny. Cool. Vlad has been saying things for months on months. Cool. I've said shit too. I have no real issue with Vlad. I've even come on here and complimented him

and I feel like he always skips the compliments and goes to the one time I didn't like when he brought the victim's father on with the guy that murdered and just always like, this is weird. But I'm critical of everything. the same way Vlad is. His platform, which I do watch certain things,

is turn into the Vlad podcast. He talks more than the guest, which is cool. He still puts on a great, great platform. I just think he's out of touch with the whites, and that's why he's not liked. Because like we said last episode, I've never been that. I'm really close with Peter Rosenberg.

I just did bootleg Kev show last year, two years ago from my album. Me and Kev talk, love him. It's the real. My guys. Druski at Hot 97, we had a weird tip in the beginning that was, I admitted I was wrong, and it was my fault. Me and Drusky are super cool. Maybe it's not a white thing.

Maybe it's a Vlad thing, because the rest of us in white hip-hop media get along great. Do those guys not get along with Vlad? I don't know. I don't know. I mean Rosenberg, cool? I don't know. Contrary to Vlad's belief, at our white hip-hop conferences and dinners, we don't bring up Vlad. I don't know the status with Vlad and everyone else.

I just think it was a bad, it was a bad angle to take with math, because how I would have flipped that entire thing is, well, look at Rory being so cool with all these other white media personalities, but then only has beef with black media personalities. That's the culture of ultra route I would go. Like, why is he so chummy with It's the Real in Rosenberg?

Why are he going on bootleg kev show? But then he has smoke with Charlemagne. Him and Gilly got into it one time. That's the route I would take Vlad. You went the wrong way to try to kill me. I'm actually the culture vulture. I'm the one chumming up with the white people and attacking the black people. What do we have to do to get you and Vlad to like sit and not on camera?

Like just sit and talk and kind of like figure out where's the disconnect? I don't know if I like this isn't a shot. I just don't know if I'd have a reason to talk to Vlad because there isn't really an issue. One time. Clearly there's an issue. Well, it was. He didn't like something you said. he never hears the compliment i'm trying to actually remember the history so we of course talked about

Vlad on the old show then when the show broke up Vlad was on some some maybe on live on his own platform i think it's one of those like face time things and he was like Roy doesn't seem very intelligent because now he only beefed with me because his co-host did and now he's beefing with that co-host doesn't seem very intelligent to me which is like damn i wasn't going to leave the pod because of the, because I may not have Vlad. I was, it was the most egotistical thing. I was like, what? How does your brain even come to that conclusion?

I'm always so fascinated when I hear this. It blew my mind when he said, I was like, what the fuck? So wait, you think every decision all of us make is based on our relationship with Vlad? After that, I was like, damn, now I got egg on my face. I can't even get Vlad. Yeah. So I think I replied to that when we were with Royce and that never came out.

But I've complimented. I think he's changed his platform. I think he went from the super exploitive shit. I think anyone that went up there and snitch on themselves is a grown man. It's their fault. I think when he took advantage of some of the younger people

that needed a way out of their situation and Vlad having a huge platform is a way to do that and went up there without the knowledge of what they were saying. Now, Vlad has every right to do that. I just thought it was a little weird. I think he's completely changed that.

I think he has a great platform now. We got the 2025, man We dead in all beefs, man Are we? I'm gonna do my part To help you dead any beefs that you have I don't have any beefs Yeah, you deading the white-on-white crime

I have to be Somebody has to step in Because this shit is out of control man Y'all are going crazy You know what we're going crazy Because y'all just fighting Has there been any other white-on-white beef? Like I feel Vlad on that stereotype

But I can't really remember that being a thing No, it's not a thing Just like Black on Black Crime isn't a thing I agree. You see it's the same type of thing. See, that's where Vlad's point. Exactly.

So, Roar, y'all, you always give me, you're always laughing me whenever I have to take an Uber. And, yeah, it's a female driver. We've had this talk before. And how uncomfortable I am. Because you're sexist. One of my favorite Caribbean enthusiasm episodes ever is when Larry had a female driver.

And she wanted to help him with his luggage. He wouldn't let her. And then had her do it walking on to set. So I'm not as mad or as opposed to now. I do think that Uber needs to do something. I don't think just for safety reasons, I don't think women should be driving. No, seriously, we live in a crazy fucking world. I don't think women should be driving, picking up strange random men at night.

I don't think Uber should allow women to drive at night. I just don't, I'll die on that hill. I just think that it's not safe. I don't care if they have the app and you have the history and you can find out who it was. I don't care about none. Women should not be driving and picking them random people at night. Where do you draw the line? Do we put a curfew on women walking at night?

No, I'm just saying. Because they walk past random people. Yeah, but it's not. It's different when you're in a car. When somebody's sitting behind you in your car at night, just think about that for a second. I don't care that we have this device and this app and you have my credit card information. I don't give a fuck about that. Think about a woman driving

and just a random picking up a random man at night. At 11 p.m. 12 midnight. She picks up a random man. I just don't think that Uber should allow women to do that. Now, on the flip side, hold on, let me land this. On the flip side, I don't think that men should be allowed to fucking do Uber Eats.

I think like, it didn't land it. You know when you're about to land? No, listen, listen. And then the plane just keeps going Listen, man. Nothing is worse than a fucking dude picking up your food, bro. Men don't care about other men's food. We pick up shit, we swing it all around on the bike.

You bring me my fucking coffee. It's in the bag. Yeah, no one told you to order coffee. That's your fault. And forget Instagram. Instacart definitely shouldn't have men doing that. Okay. Men don't know how to pick fruit at a grocery store.

Like, we don't read labels. If I say, yo, I want milk. You're not looking at the type of milk that I said specifically. men are just going and grabbing milk. So you're saying women should do the Uber Eats? Women should do because women pay more attention to detail. Okay. So like if a woman is picking up your food, she's going to make sure that it's wrapped properly.

I'm just going off of my history. Anytime I've ordered Uber Eats, anytime food has spilled or was like messed up, it was always a guy to deliver. Have you ever ordered Uber Eats at night? Yeah. She went to your door? sometimes yeah but that's safer

but that's safer because nobody it's not how nobody's in the car with her I haven't thought about this this is off the whim but I feel like it'd be easy to grab a woman and bring her into your house which would be way more dangerous than being in the car fuck no you sound crazy as hell

you think it's easier to pull somebody in your apartment than you think it's safer Jeffrey Dahmer did it for year and cooked everything nah he met them at the club see that's what you went wrong at Even harder, he had to lure them with his charm. Yeah, they was a psychopath. They was drunk and intoxicated. They was partying.

That's a difference. That's a difference. Getting in a car is way more dangerous than somebody delivering food to your door. What if I live down a long driveway that's really dark? She comes to my door. Lights are all off. I open the door and the lights are off. But now you're setting the scene for fucking screen four.

You're setting this like, yeah. Why are you looking at the dark alley? I'm just going by your logic because I do believe you want women to be safe. but if they're doing Uber eats at night, it's still the same danger. I don't think so. I think it's a little safer. I think delivering food because I could drop the food at the door, take the picture, send it to you walk, food is at the door.

Or if I'm a psychopath, similar to the guy... If you're a psychopath, don't matter where you at. Similar to the guy that would just be getting Uber's and canceling them until it was a woman because he had an agenda, that same guy could watch that little bike go all the way to the restaurant and all the way to his house, and the moment she drops that bag could be right there. No, that's true.

And he could have like, it's way different. He could have some home alone shit already set up. He's got time and it's his home. Yeah, but it's still, I still think it's safer for women to do Instacart Uber eats than it is to drive and pick up random people at night. How does Uber put this press release out? If you're the copywriter, you're PR. How are we saying women, you have a curfew and cannot drive after this time? But if you want to deliver eggs, you're more than welcome.

Yeah, I think that's dope. I think it shows that they're concerned about women's safety. True. Yeah. You think that people will be, if anything, women, like, I can't pick up people at midnight? Yeah. First of all, how many women, how many female drivers do you get at night? I mean, I, that's something that I don't see at all.

Like, it's very random that you call an Uber pass 10, 10 p.m., 11 p.m. And a woman picks you up. Why are we doing this ban for just like a every now and then situation? Because I feel like women or women that work Uber or Uber eats, I think they kind of already feel like I'm not working at night. I think they say that to themselves. Like I'm not picking up no random people at night. Like I'll go out early in the morning.

I'll go out at AAM and I'm done at 4 p.m. And I'm saying if that's such a small percentage, you are upset with the COVID ban and that was millions of people dying. Now we're banning like three or four women from working. No. I'm just saying that I think that it puts the message out there. like we want the Uber, it wants to protect women. Like we don't want women outside driving around picking up strangers because that's exactly

what we are to each other strangers at night. I don't think that there's anything offensive about that. What time does the ban start? Why are you calling it a ban? Because it's a ban. It's not a band. What's the definition of ban? Yeah, but when you put the word ban on it, it makes it seems like, you know what I mean?

Like don't say ban, say, hey, listen. Are you saying legally prohibit? I'm saying legally prohibit, yes. That would be the definition of ban, sir. It's a verb. Yeah, but it doesn't sting as much as ban. Band means like... And what's funny, the sentence they have here is she was banned from driving for a year. That's really what it says on Dictionary.com.

See, so we're already there. We're already halfway home. Somebody's feeling what I'm saying. I absolutely feel like... Mariam knew what time I was. I absolutely feel like women that work for Uber should only do Instacart and Uber eats at night. Is it based off time zones, like when the sun is going down? I think after, I think after 8 p.m.

Okay. I think that's a, that's probably a safe time. And then we're saying immediately to the kitchen from 8 to 10. Are we putting anything on their ankle? Like, do they get zapped if they go to the car? Well, we could do, yeah. Like if they get pulled over and then cops see that they're working, they can get a fine. And what's funny is you're also trying to ban transgender.

I can easily see women. Well, Donald Trump did that. I can easily see women just saying there are another gender to continue. And then it's like you can't say anything. I identify as a male. You're going to stop me from working? I'm telling you, I have not. It's very rare that I've gotten a female driver late at night.

Very, very rare. Because she should be putting the kids to sleep, right? Maybe. Or maybe women just have this thing where they know, like, I'm not picking up random people at night. I just feel like let's leave Instacart to women. I'd rather a woman pick up my groceries than a man. What about men that can't defend themselves? Well, we have another name for those guys.

They don't need to be working at all. They need to be in the gym or at a dojo. So now all of a sudden we're saying the inmate firefighters are the ones that are driving Uber. It's all tough guys. At night it should be. Yeah. Let the tough guys run into the psychopaths. Let's see how that's content.

That's like the new taxi cab confession. That's what we need to do. Put taxi cab confessions in these ubers. That's what we need at night. It's just going to be drunk people throwing up in the back seat. and some poor guy trying to clean it at a gas station. I watch that shit on YouTube anyway. They have a channel where they show like Uber drivers like getting into a passengers.

Love that type of shit on YouTube. I just think you're trying to get Uber in a whole gender war that they are not prepared for. Listen, I'm telling you, man, I think subconsciously female drivers already think that. And this is why you don't see many female drivers on the road late at night. I think they subconsciously feel that way. Like it's just safer to be home and not picking up random people. people late at night. Have you been called in to be a character witness for the ASAP Rocky trial?

No, and I'm thankful that I'm not. I saw that he turned down. I thought all of Uptown had to go. No. I saw that ASAP Rocky turned down to plea deal. I think they offered him 180 days or something like that, which is roughly about six months, half the year. Three years probation, turn that down, and he's facing up to 24 years.

Now, I'm with him and his defense. That video is not what everyone's making enough to see. Like, you can't really see if ASAP is doing anything. And the gun they were saying was a prop gun that he carries around with him when he's with his security just in case. Okay, prop gun. Somebody was really shot. Yeah, ASAP is saying that he was not the one.

He pled not guilty to shooting him. Somebody else did it. Well, someone got shot. And ASAP pled not guilty. And his defense is saying the gun that ASAP had is a prop gun that he always brings around. Asap isn't saying, I know who shot someone else. And I didn't do that shit. And that gun that you see in that video.

Is a prop. Yeah. I carry a prop all the time. So the video where it shows Rocky and everybody else is out there and then what it looks like he raises the gun and fires that people start running, that wasn't really? That was a prop. I mean, they got to prove if that was Rocky. Well, yeah. I mean, got to prove beyond a reasonable doubt.

I understand that. But if I'm Rocky, I would have took that 180 days and sat my ass down. And that would have been the end of that. not when you have PTSD of slipping on semen with Casanova. I take my chance. I'm not sitting down for a day. I'm not going to the tunes for a weekend. I'm not committing a crime on a Friday, Saturday, nothing.

Listen, now, I know he's facing... Not if I slipped on semen in a shower. He's facing up to 24 years. He definitely won't be doing 24 years in prison. I just don't know with that video and... I get it. You know, Rihanna is your, you know, that's your wife and the mother of your children. she's very powerful obviously has some great lawyers at her disposal

which means you have great lawyers at your disposal I don't know if I would again roll the dice on this one I think that that was a deal that's a deal that's harder than I have to be confident though if you turn it down six months for 24 years well he's definitely I mean what he's being accused of doing carries a maximum of 24 years he definitely will not be

doing anywhere near that. But I think there's strategies to continue with trial, bring more evidence to get another plea that just puts him on probation. I don't think he's taking this all the way to a jury decision. I think they're probably trying to get a better plea deal. Yeah, but I'm more, okay,

and if that is the play, which it could be, how long does that go? Because by now, if I would have took that six months, this would have been over. Here's my thing. Look at the opportunity ASAP could have with six months in prison being sponsored by Fenty. He could do more for prison reform than Meek ever could.

Imagine skincare routines in prison with Rocky. Like if Fenty started supplying the prisons with like body wash and face wash. And as much as I'm joking, that would be an amazing thing to do for prisoners. Yeah. Because I know they are lacking all nutrition, juices and skin care. They could do like official, like the official underwear, socks. Now you're going to have dudes looking at Rocky a little different in there for his own safety. Keep it to skincare. What do you mean? Do the underwear when he's out. No, but you need,

you need underwear. You need socks in prison. You need the jumpsuit. You want, you want Rocky in six months to model his draws in the day room? No, no, no, no. That's not to see, now you're going so well. I'm not saying he's modeling anything. I'm saying the prison system doesn't have the best fabric. I agree. If my wife is Rihanna, she has a great line like Fenty. If I have to go do six months, the way I would spin this as a PR move is say, hey, you know, I was in the prison system, I had to do six months, I noticed that the conditions that the inmates are in, you know, great opportunity. Let's flip this.

Let's let's get a contract where we now supply the prison systems in California with undergarments, you know, boxers, socks, t-shirts, jumpsuits, some slides for the bathroom, you know, shower slides or whatever, skin care routine. Because, I mean, their inmates, some of them are pieces of shit. They don't, you know, fuck them. But some of them is, like, in jail for things that, you know, it's like he's not a terrible guy, But he's in prison. But you know, like, between cigarettes and other commissary and, like, that being currency in jail,

can you imagine what the Fenty product would be? That's like the new crypto in prison. If you got a couple of moisturizers, you lose a spade's hand and have to give up a moisturizer. You get to get a stag in the shower. Yeah, they're definitely going to be gambling. Yo, I bet you four facewashes, my niggily. What's your makeup number? That's not how Fenty work?

Yeah. Yeah. Yo, that's my number. They knew what size shoes are those? But that would have been dope, though. I agree. If I'm Rocky, that would have been dope, man. Like, listen, man, we're going to turn this, you know, unfortunate situation.

The TikTok videos of Rocky in his own cell. Everyone asked me about my skincare routine. No, no, no, no. And then he could do the voiceover TikTok ones. Like, so I spent this morning. You don't have to do that. No, you don't have to do that. Worked out on the yards.

Let's just, let's just get the contracts where Fentty now supplies the prison systems with all, you know, toiletries. and underclothes. Yeah, socks, shit like that. Things that prisoners need. I think it would have been dope, but him turning down this plea deal was shocking to me.

I thought he would have took that and, you know, like six months. Again, any day, one day in jail is too much. But facing what he's facing and then the evidence that they have and how great lawyers can make sure disappear.

I understand that. I just don't know if I would have rolled the dice though. And in California, like, not that I would ever want to go to jail in New York, I would just at least know more people. Callie, if I committed a crime, I wouldn't even like, shit, I'd call you first.

Yeah. Yeah, I'm not. Can you, can you? Yeah. I'm not turning. Can you plug me in with the social pipeline of gang members in Los Angeles? Because I'm fucked.

And didn't they, if I remember, didn't they send like Homeland Security to his house? I think so. They went into his career with like full riot gear. But he was trying to leave or something. Like full swat. The SWAT went in his house. Well, let's not act like.

They don't do that with celebrities just because it gets headlines. That's how you get prosecutors that get promotions and like, that's come on. Well, anytime you fire a weapon on the streets of California, that is the way that they are going to come after you and try to arrest you. Like, they're coming like that. Now, I don't want to sound too liberal here with moisturizers and that entire shit. I don't want anyone discharging a firearm on a public Los Angeles street. Lock those people up.

Yeah, but that's what I'm saying. There's something like this is a serious. And it's crazy because I just asked somebody about this maybe three weeks ago. I was like, yo, whatever happened to the Rocky case? Like, that's not something that's going away. Like, you fire a weapon on the streets of California and they know you did it or they have video. You're going to face that day. You're going to court for that.

You're going to jail for that. Which is why when I saw he turned that plea down, I was like, I get it. Well, listen. He spent like three Christmases in Barbados, you know, trying to prolong this case a little bit. Yeah, but six months, he would be home before Christmas. This was before they even went to trial. I would have took that 180. I'm sorry.

If I'm Rocky, I take the 180. The way you're saying that, I guess I just have a different lens to that. Six months in jail is a long fucking time. One day in jail is a long time. And depending on what jail you're in, I understand that. But I'm definitely not going to think about all the lawyer fees,

prolonging it to possibly most likely still end up getting some time. Nah, bro. Let me take this 180. I'll be home in six months like it'll be like this shit never even happen

Mississippi politicians are filing the contraception begins at erection act What does that mean? That means if you want a nut it has to be

to try to create a child What? What is it? Explain this better to me, bro. What are you talking about? Politicians in Mississippi Right

And we're not acting like this is ever going to go through But you can just file shit if you want to Right that in order to discharge your, you know, your glue, it has to be with the intent to fertilize a woman or, you know, whatever you want to call it these days. So, so, Senator Bradford Blackman says the bill would make it unlawful for a person to discharge genetic material. First of all, I have never heard, let's call it semen.

I have never heard semen Rocky slipped on be called genetic material? Yeah Okay unlawful for a person to discharge genetic material

without the intent to fertilize an embryo Now he's a freak Because how are you going to monitor this? Hmm Maybe we take all the women that can't drive Ubers after 8 p.m to monitor each man

at their house. That would keep them safe, right? Oh, this is an easy loophole. All you got to do is not come. I'm going to come. Because it says it says it's unlawful for a person to discharge genetic material without the intent to fertilize an embryo. So as long as I don't come, there's no crime committee. First of all, the court system is already jam packed to try to figure out what the intent of a crime was. How are you going to prove that I was intending to get someone pregnant or not. And I love your loophole of just not nutting. Yeah. You're just going to beat off and

just wait. It's called edging. You know, they get to the point that you're about to be like, oh, listen, this is against the law. I can't do this. You know what I mean? You got to back out of that thing slowly. I'm like, listen, I can't, because I don't have an intent to fertilize your embryo right now. So I'm not going to discharge my genetic material. Okay, but if I, all right, let's say I pull out in nut. Is she like, is she an accessory after the fact? Is that my Cody now? Yeah, she's your coach. Because this does feel, you're both in jail. This does feel like it. It's a is a bit... Imagine being locked up because you couldn't get up pregnant. Yo, and imagine she's your Cody

and she flips on you? Yeah. Does that make her a rat? Absolutely. Yes, 100%. Yeah, that's exactly what she is. Imagine going to witness protection because you rattled on your man. This is the dumbest shit. Like, look at what we... This is stupid. Look at the bills that are being presented. Who even knows if this is actually real, even though it's on a new site? It's hilarious. Somebody probably said this in passing at a government building and

they reported on it. So they want us to practice. They want everybody in the state of Mississippi to practice semen retention, basically. Like if you're not trying to get a woman pregnant. In the South, that's not crazy for politicians because a lot of them are super religious. That's some church shit.

You should only be fucking after you're married or with the intent. I can't wait to get that line. Genetic material? Oh, man. I can't wait to tell a young harlot to make my genetic material disappear. Take my genetic material. discard of my genetic material, will you?

Also, it would be funny, like, cleaning up your nut like it was a crime scene. Like, babe, get the bleach. Get the bleach, limes, all of that, yeah. Wash the sheets. Immediately, we got to wash the sheets. Like, legitimately bearing a comforter, like, six feet under. Like, they'll never find it. I'm a two-strike offender.

I can't go back. Genetic material. That is the first time I've ever read that. You cannot discharge your genetic material without the intent to further. an embryo. I think it makes sense. This is just birth control. No, I get it. Seamen retention. We should all practice. It's just like birth control. No, it's not. Yeah, it is. Mall, I have to interrupt this important podcast with breaking, breaking, breaking news.

And it might break you too, Maul. While we're recording, I just looked on Twitter. It might break me as hilarious. Why is this news going to break me? Let's hear it. All the listeners, I promise we are not going to get in some rabbit hole. This is all for fun. Everyone relax going into this topic. While we're recording, Kendrick dropped a trailer, his second trailer for his Super Bowl performance. Well, he was talking to Siza, and then she gets right behind him with the Gatorade cooler and throws it over like they just won the Super Bowl. She will be performing with him at halftime, which us and the rest of the world predicted would probably happen. What? Nothing at all.

This is great. Do we get a full Cizzer set? We better. We better get a full Cizzer set. You better let Cizza get a full set at the halftime show. Why not? Cizzer. Sounds great, great songs, looks great, yeah. We just spoke about John Legend in the five and yes.

You think the football players want to see Kendrick or Cizzer? I think the football players will be focused on their halftime adjustments during that moment and focused on the biggest game of their lives. It's another day. This is another game. We already know our game plan. We know what we're running. Half time adjustments mean nothing in the Super Bowl.

Nah, man, we don't adjust. You can't change the players game in the knife in it. You know that. This is who we are. This is who we were when you got it. Yeah, this is who we are. This is how we got here. Any coach that would allow their team to go to the TV to watch the halftime

performance? Got to keep the team loose, man. How did you even get to the Super Bowl? Keep the team loose, man. Everybody would be loose in the locker. Just another day at the park. Man, that's all that is. We had predicted that he was going to bring out Siza as a

guest to perform all the stars because that was a hit now that between when we said that and today Kendrick and Siza have damn near given us an EP of features together do we think any of those make it and I like those songs a lot are they super bowl worthy yet or does they do all the stars and then we get a Siza hit record set and then back to Kendrick and his hits I could see maybe they do 30 for 30 I think that makes sense that just like a quick low 15 seconds. 30 for 30s, a documentary is usually sports documentary type of thing. So they have the Super Bowl. Because like Luther and Gloria are great. I do like those records a lot on GNX. Just out of Kendrick's and Ciz's entire catalog. Like, where do you sneak those in at a Super Bowl?

I mean, they're just their great new records. Rihanna did some records that I don't think we thought she would have done. Right? Yeah. It happens. I think sometimes you just do the records that people love. It doesn't matter that you're at the Super Bowl. You do the records that you know people like. I don't know about all that. What record from Rihanna? Let me pull this up. Apple music that's still paying us more money than Spotify, even though they keep raising Spotify's, right?

Rihanna started with bitch better out my money. Where have you been? Only girl, we found love. Rude boy, work, wild thoughts, pour it up, all of the lights, run this down, umbrella diamonds. It's kind of a seal-tight set list right there of hit my fucking records. No, it hit records, but... Nothing shocked me in that set list, like...

Damn, she's giving us James joint. I would have never guessed. Get over it was plays. I would have never guessed that she was going to perform Rude Boy. Really? Yeah. At the Super Bowl? No.

One of her biggest records. So like I said, with Siza and Kendrick, they're going to perform their biggest records. It doesn't matter if the song fits the Super Bowl or not. I don't think you go into it with is this a Super Bowl performance record. I just think you go with your biggest jokers. I think the opposite. I think this is an amazing promo for their tour that's coming.

up, but I think they go Kendrick hits. All stars, all the stars, sorry if I'm getting that wrong. Siza, Duke, does like two or three, four of her hits, and then we get Kendrick right back to end the show. I don't know if they're going to sit there and do Luther.

I just don't see it. Can we had a real conversation now? Now that you got all that out. I'm scared to, but sure. What are you scared of? I'm your man. I'm scared all the time. I just heard enough. I was born scared.

All right, so is this is this not, Is this not a cheat code, though? Can we just be, like, because y'all going to paint me as this hater and all of it? I'm just saying, okay, is it a cheat code? Maybe, but is it also a very smart move? Do I think Kendrick Lamar could have done the Super Bowl halftime by himself? Absolutely. Him doing this tour with Siza.

I think it was a good move. Why? They're doing stadiums. I need all the promo I can get. Any artist would. Everyone relax. I'm not saying Kendrick needs promo. they're doing a stadium tour.

Any artist would need promo for that. They're both superstars. It's not like it's Kendrick opening up by Siza. It's a joint tour with stadiums. So yeah, if I'm about to do a stadium with the biggest platform, I might as well bring my co-star with me. Would you not? You're not answering a question.

Is it a cheat code? What's the cheat code? I'm answering a question with a question I understand, but I want to know what you. I see, yeah, because now you're trying to paint me in this corner so I can come out swinging and look like the crazy fucking upset guy. I'm a hater and I'm a fucking blazer. Pete came out of the bathroom. I said, oh, fuck, we either got a good gift or the worst thing ever when I saw that trailer.

I'm just saying, like, you know, let's just call it what it is. If he would have announced it with Siza in the beginning and it was like, all right, Super Bowl announcement, halftime will be Siza and Kendrick the way it was maybe Beyonce, Bruno Mars. I could see your argument on that side. But it's been enough time, and everyone has already thought that he could do the Super Bowl. You think Hove hired him saying, I'm only doing this if you bring Sizzle with you? I think Kendrick added her on after he already took it on. But what would be the cheat?

What is he cheating? He already got the gig. No, yeah, he got the gig. Super Bowl is going to sell out with or without him bringing Sizzle. That's a fact. Or bringing Kendrick on. That's a fact. So what's the cheat code?

or is it good marketing for the tour that I am about to put on? Don't see you throwing that in it. It's obviously great. It's the biggest stage that either one of them have ever performed on. Obviously, it's a great promo opportunity. I'm not arguing that. It's smart. It's great business.

But let's act like these cameras and these mics ain't on right now. Let's act like that. Can we act like that for five minutes? Yes. All right. So if any other artists did this, Will we not be giving them shit for it? Can I get espresso martini?

Will we not be getting shit for it? Would we not be giving them shit for doing this? Okay. I don't even see the lights or the cameras. I don't either. But I still see them. So I'm giving you half an answer. The way you say if Steph,

Braun, everyone throws their rings on the table, everyone's going to look at that bubble ring and go, nah, I don't know if we count that. Right. I think every artist that did a solo Super Bowl halftime would look at Kendrick like, nah, I'm not counting that. Now me, I don't give a fuck.

No, it's a great music. I don't get about that. I think every artist that carried a Super Bowl performance all by themselves would look at the other ones if they were to be on a list of like the greater ones and was like, no, man. Like though, look what Rihanna did by herself. It was insane.

But I also think what Dre did with Snoop, Mary M. 50 and Kendrick was one of my favorites of all time. But I could see why Prince would fucking laugh at it with his Purple Rain performance. So I think some people would have asterisk's. But we had Justin and, and I mean, I don't know, this happens all the time. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. And I'm not saying, Cizor and Kendrick are that. But we've had this happen where there's two performers.

I could be wrong. No, no, having somebody come out as a guest on your set, that happens. Was it a cheat code with Beyonce Maroon 5? Like, is that a cheat code? I'm asking you because right now it seems that it's being promoted as Kendrick and Siza halftime performance. Now, when Beyonce did it or when, you know, other artists did it, yeah, they had people come out and do a guest song, do a, yeah. But we're talking about now it's being announced as the Kendrick and Sissah halftime show. At least that's what it just said on a promo.

Yeah. That's what I'm saying. It's not like what we thought where we're like, he's going to bring Siza out. We knew that already. I didn't. We knew that already. I didn't anticipate her being on the bill. But by the way, congratulations to Sizzar.

That's amazing. Congratulations to both of them. Like I. Maplewood, New Jersey is now doing half times. Listen, congratulations to Kendrick and Sizer. I'm looking forward to this. I'm just saying if we act like these mics and these cameras ain't on, are we having a conversation of,

all right man did that load get a little heavy at them them rehearsals and you start looking at that step list no no no no i'm not i'm not saying i'm not letting you do that because then now i'm getting my shit off i'm getting my shit on okay okay let me get my shit on you're contradicting your shit because when we left that shit at the barclays center missed the morale tour you said oh my god kendrick lamar put on damn near a broadway play how could you put on a show like that when you wrap that many words in one fucking verse does that there's no way i feel like kendrick remar Translate at the Super Bowl. It means I think he's capable of putting on a Super Bowl halftime show.

My auntie is a man now is not ringing off at the Super Bowl. Pepsi ain't stamping that. So you're suggesting that. He's stamping that. Kendrick, the low, got too much during rehearsals. And then also Pepsi was like, nah, he's got to bring someone else in. I'm not saying anything. I'm just saying, can we have it?

They all signed off on that before. I know we all say Hove is the majority person that picks the halftime. sure he does. It's more people. But if you don't think Hove doesn't check with the major sponsors of the halftime show or who's going to be putting commercials at that time, you are strongly mistaken. They all say, all, it's like, all right, Kenner's, cool. This is what we'll offer for advertising.

They're not now like, you know, we need Sizzar there. I think it's a great addition. That's not what I said. Why you keep trying to remix what I said? Maybe I misunderstood. I'm asking you, do you think these mics and cameras are not here? Look at me in my eyes. Look to me in my face.

I'm looking. Do you think that Kendrick got there and got to his performances and rehearsals and was like, you know what, let me just bust this bag. Let me bust this down with Sizzar. Like, let's split this. It's me and Sizzar. Because he probably realized like, damn, I got to do, this is a lot of performing. This is a big field.

I got to kind of like move around so many moving parts, things that he never did before. That's like the first time he's probably been on the stage this big. We can agree to that. Yes. With this many moving pieces. This is by far the biggest platform. This is the tough thing to carry. Most artists ever have had.

Exactly. So do we think that he got in rehearsal and looked back and was like, fuck yeah, we're going on tour. Let me just bust this down with Sizer. No, not in the slightest. I think it's a, it's pause, a big load for having to do a stadium tour and rehearse that with Siza. I think it was maybe a smart move to put those two things together.

But in no way do I think Kendrick Lamar as strategic and intelligent as we know him to be would ever take a Super Bowl halftime gig, not being confident in delivering. I don't think there's a world where that... I'm not saying not confident in delivering. I'm saying that... I think Kendrick Lamar is in shape. I saw him doing Mexican burpees in Brooklyn.

That's great. He can move around that whole field. For sure. He'll be fine. I think it was a very smart move with everything him and Siza we're going to do. It's obviously a smart move.

I'm not saying it's not. I'm just saying let's get to the decision of the smart move. How do we get to the decision of the move being smart? Like, what conversation start happening internally? I guess I know we're speculating on everything,

but I'd rather like to know when the decision of the GNX tour being the Siza and Kendrick tour happened. Did that happen prior to the Super Bowl or after? If it happened after and that's something they wanted to do, yeah, I would remix that plan and go, well, let's use this opportunity to put on a performance that would end up promoting our stadium tour. Would you not do that?

Okay. I don't think it's that crazy. Listen, man, you know, I'm just looking at the optics. That's all. Either way, it's going to be a great performance. Obviously, this is Kendrick Lamar and Sizer that we're talking about, two of the doverest artists that we have. So, yeah, I'm looking forward to it, but I just, I would just like to know.

Now, listen. Because we only, what, two weeks away? For the Super Bowl? Yeah. Annaltern is two weeks out. I just, I'm. I just feel like, again, my spiky senses.

You think two weeks before the Super Bowl, rehearsals would be going that bad that we would have to put together a whole new entire show and a promo? It's going to just been a roll out of what they wanted to do. You miss what I'm saying. I feel like they knew the entire time

that Siza was going to perform. Well, even cool. But yeah, but announced it like that from the gate, though. Why? Because I think they've, all right, We got two scissors. Because then if you don't, then you leave room for people to speculate like, damn, why is it now Kendrick and Siza halftime show when it wasn't Kendrick and Sizz of a strategic and well-planned rollout of I have the most attention I've ever had in my life on me. Let's do the Super Bowl announcement of just me shooting the footballs.

Then GNX comes out with two Siza features. Then Sizzas Deluxe comes out with a Kendrick feature. then we announce a stadium tour, then let's announce the Siza and Kendrick Super Bowl thing. That's a perfectly planned... So you like that? Yeah, hell yeah.

Okay. All right. Listen, I understand the OVO conspiracies that they are low ticket sales and I know as soon as I opened Twitter when we stop recording, they're like, yo, they had to do this because they weren't moving tickets. Nah, I really don't think that.

But why are you saying OVO conspiracies? Because they're only coming from the OVO communities I see on Twitter. I don't know I don't see anyone that's not dangerously involved in the Twitter streets in this battle, even commenting or caring

that much about the ticket sales of Kendrick and Siza or that this is announced. Most people are cool. Even better. Now maybe we'll have some hoes at the Super Bowl party. Okay. We're going to revisit this.

Listen. It's going to be maybe next year when they announced the next performer, but we're going to revisit this. I've been to Super Bowl. Bowl parties when Beyonce was performing at halftime. And then I've been to Super Bowl parties when it was Dr. Dre, Snoop Dog, Kendrick Lamar, Eminem, and 50 Cent. And it was just me, you, and fucking Peach.

Yeah. Now we can have some hose finally when you add visit to the mix. Okay. Are you saying Kendrick scares the hose? That's exactly what he's saying. That's exactly what he's saying. And that's what the niggas said at the rehearsal. That's not hanging, though.

That's what they said at the rehearsal. I know a lot of beautiful. I'm not, man. We ain't going to do all this rapping at the halftime. Like, we need, we need some R&B to break this shit up. You don't think lose yourself scared the hose? Yeah, but that was just for a couple seconds, though. And I think, all right, brought it back.

Yeah, but that was, again, a couple seconds. That's what I'm trying to tell you. Kendra got joints that women like, first of all, women like, I'm not saying they don't. I'm not saying he don't. I'm not saying he don't. Because you be trying to make it same like I'm saying something I'm not saying. I don't make you seem anyway. I'm telling you exactly what I'm saying.

And I'm saying that it looks like, I'm not saying that this is what it is, I'm saying it looks like a conversation was had and that a decision was made to kind of like promote this in a different way because it's like, yes, we have the stadium tour coming. We know that. Everybody's looking forward to that show with him and scissors. I just think it's a little eyebrow raising to announce this two weeks away from the Super Bowl when you could have announced this the same time y'all announced a tour. We got a microwave society where they forget things and move on from things immediately. This is how people need to promote things now. A bunch of reminders of new information as close to the date as possible. Okay. Because casual, casual people are going, oh shit,

soup bowl is in like three days. All right. Oh, shit. Here's an announcement to remind me of that. Okay. You think to all now it's lefty gunplay coming out? I don't think Pepsi is. I don't think they would. You don't think he aligns with their? No, I think they're staying away from that. I don't think they're touching that brand. I would like to see Lefty. At the Super Bowl? Yeah.

Yo, see, this is where I sound like a hater. Like, he's lying. You would not like to, what's up with you, man? Okay. What's up? No, I'm fucking around. I would laugh if he took all the features from GNX

and brought them out as someone that likes their verses. Oh, if you want to do that, you got to bring all of them out. And to me, that would be, I would laugh. I would laugh like, yo, go ahead, Kendrick. I fucking love. That's amazing. Listen, I wouldn't be mad at it. The fact that you got that off of the Super Bowl, I would respect that.

Like, you would not believe it. Same. Now, if you bring all of them and get those records off at the halftime show, I got to respect that. Okay. Now, we have seen, God, I don't want to do a whole TD thing, but I have to ask this question. Now, now that it's Siza and Kendrick, and we know, based off the Not Like Us video, that Kendrick is still on amazing terms with TDE. Do you think Top nudges him a little bit and says, all right, it's you and Cizza.

Do we bring out Q, Soul, J. Rock? Do we do the TDE reunion for real? Because with the Amazon Prime victory lap shit, yeah, they were all there, but at separate times, the whole TDE reunion, does that happen at the Super Bowl? and I love that you've admitted your bias. So take the bias out. Is that not put TDE in the conversation of greatest label of all time if all of them come out at the Super Bowl?

There was no Beyonce announcement. I know we were talking about Super Bowl stuff. A lot of people, a lot of artists have pushed things back. A lot of albums have been pushed back. A lot of video shoots and things like that. And I get it. A lot of people saying, well, you know, LA, the fires and nah, nah, nah. I believe it's because Beyonce has not announced what she's getting ready to announce yet.

I know you're fucking around. I can attest, which is, I mean, equal to the Beyonce announcement and all these artist albums. I push my single back because of the fires in L.A. And honestly, not because of a moral reason. I don't want to sound like that whatsoever. The artist that's on it is on UMG. And, yeah, things are delayed because a lot of their employees and people are obviously. going through a really, really tough time.

And things are getting pushed. I respect that Beyonce did push it back. I actually think she is one of the few people that actually meant that. Because if that was the case, I mean, the weekend pushed this shit, well, one week. Yeah. He didn't do that shit for the fires. He did it because no one was in the office. Beyonce, I think she'll wait until after the Super Bowl.

To make an announcement. Yeah. I think she'll let all of this pass and do that. What do you think the announcement is? Tor. Yeah, I think that's safe to say. Now, I will go with your Siza and Kendrick. theory that they do have to compete with Beyonce for stadiums.

And for an average consumer, that's a tough one to think to go to a stadium show in one year. Am I going to go see Kendrick and Siza or am I going to pay for Beyonce? That's always tough. If you had to make that decision, who you go with? I mean, I've seen Beyonce a lot. That's tough. I would probably go Siza and Kendrick to see them together because I haven't seen.

than perform. As much as I do love Cowboy Carter and love Beyonce's performance, I know it would be an experience. I've seen her perform a lot. Yeah. I'd want to go see Siz and Kendrick. Siz and Kendrick over Beyonce.

But that's what fucked up the game when Taylor Swift and what? He's nuts. Why am I nuts? You ain't, man. You're going to see Beyonce, man. It's like going to see Michael Jackson. What are you talking about?

Everybody would pick that. That's, I don't think that's true. same night, same city. You're going to see Sizzing Kedrick before you go see Beyonce? I mean, I can't get on the list to the Siza and Kendrick show because of you anymore. I can only get on the Beyonce list, so I don't think I'd have a fucking choice, same night's and city. No, Sissy, you had a choice.

I would see, I would see Kendrick and Siza. I'm very curious how that show was going to go. Okay. I've seen Beyonce solo multiple times. I've seen both on the runs. Yeah, as much as she is, she is Michael Jackson. And because that Christmas performance also was incredible. I know that cowboy Carter shit is going to be.

me nuts. I still would want to go see the show. I have not seen. Gotcha. But you're getting it on Super Bowl. I don't know that. Kendrick, Siza, and Kendrick? I don't know if it's going to be the same show. Well, not the same, but you're getting the... Fucking 15 minutes condensed from a two and a half hour show, probably. Yeah, but you're getting a glimpse, though. A little sneak up, a little sneak peek.

The sneak peek of Christmas, Beyonce was insane, so I know that that's going to be. What did you think it was going to be? The Her announcement? Yeah. New album. Okay. You know what I hope it is? Just to see the world melt.

Because she had to push it because of fires. No. Like a perfume. Like it would have been fine. She's like, yo, I got announced me January 15th after that. And it's just another,

it's another whiskey. It's a lighter version of that whiskey. And now we all sit in here like anticipating, but she did it because of the fires. And she's like, yeah, no, like, you know, I'm putting out a line of cowboy boots. And we all like,

I'm putting out silver cowboy. You could have said that during the fire. Yeah, yeah. You could have tweeted that. Like, I promise you didn't have to push that back. You know, peach whiskey. The firefighters would have understood. Yeah.

Peach whiskey next month. That's what I, just to watch the world just burned out after that. Fucking idiots going crazy of a postponed announcement. You don't even know what she about to announce. Like, y'all going crazy. The anticipation is killing people now. I think it's an album.

Yeah, I think it's an album. Even coming off that performance, you think she would just do that Christmas Cowboy Carter performance without announcing a tour? Just for the fuck of it? I think she puts out another album and then she does a tour where it's like both of those albums.

Okay. Now, let's say it's R&B, and we know she has a look for everything. You know, with Renaissance, all the chicks bought everything silver. You can't buy silver anymore. Yeah, no. Go anywhere.

The silver server is naked now. He don't even have a surfboard What would also be hilarious to troll her fans Would be if she did a joint Cowboy Carter thing And let's say R&B she finds a look Like some leather Janet type shit And they have to bring a change of clothes For the second half of the show

So everyone has to, yeah All the fans have to come dressed as cowboys Naturally And then they have like a quick half time And everyone has to run in the bathroom To change to their leather R&B fit Why do you got to work? with leather, Harvey.

You quit leather as a cowboy's. Everyone's going to dress like Joseph. That's crazy. Everybody go to the bathroom and change it had come back. Now the smart girls would do like the leather chaps and then maybe just cut them. Yeah, rip it. It'd be a breakaway pan. Yeah, yeah.

Maybe that's what she's announcing. Yeah. Breakaway cowboy. Breakaway chaps. Yeah. We need it. So, Rory, the other day I was thinking about just dumb things we do as, or we did as younger men, chasing girls.

and I forgot about the time that I met this girl. I met her on, I think I want to say I met her on Twitter. Okay. I think we met on Twitter. We started following each other in 20 years ago. Of course, long time ago. No, it literally was probably over 14 years ago. And I met her on Twitter.

We started like, you know, kicking their exchange numbers. And one day she was like, yeah, you know, I live in the Bronx. I said, okay, you're right here. You near me. So I go to her crib. No, we actually, we went to thinking something to eat. And she's like, you want to come back to my crib. You know, that's all we need to hear after dinner.

I'm like, yeah, hell yeah, I want to come back to your crib. So we get to her crib. It's in the area of the Bronx that I'm familiar with. Got a lot of friends, family over there. Okay. Get to her. I'm just laughing. Reliver this shit.

Get to her crib. And we in her room, you know, getting it, watching a movie. And, you know, we're getting into it. And I'm hearing something in like what I think is the living room. Okay. Now when we walked in, it was pitch black. It was nobody else there. So I'm like, okay, she's home.

Nobody else is here. Cool. But then even when we getting into it, I started hearing shit. Then it's like where her bedroom was it was close to the front door. So now I hear people walk in. So I'm like, oh shit, like her parents came, you know, like I didn't know. what this was. Now, thinking back, I'm stupid

and just horny. Like, I didn't even ask like, yo, who is that? Like, I'm just, whatever. I mean, you walked into her house and she didn't even turn a light on and you didn't think that was a red flag at all. It wasn't that it wasn't no lights on. It was like, it was dimly lit. It wasn't pitch black. Listen, you don't need lights to fuck. All right, let's go. No, it wasn't pitch black. But it like...

Con Ed made it got her. Just looking back, it was stupid. But then I'm hearing people. And I'm like, yo, somebody's in here. though why was she renting a room dog that's common man no it's not bro i've never bro to this day i've never experienced that again fucking a girl that's renting a room yeah she lives with two other dudes yes nah bro i thought i was set up someday you have to take your rockefella privilege card out that's mad common bro i thought i was being lined up i'm gonna keep it 100 with you oh my you know what it is to have a condom on and you finish having sex and you want to go you

use the bathroom and it's five dudes sitting in the living room that you don't know, you got to walk past? Man, I cut my teeth with chicks that found their room on Craigslist. That's where I made my bones. Nah, bro. That's so common. That is crazy. I'll do you one better. I've had that with the railroad apartment.

You got to walk through two rooms to get to the third room. And I walk by two people fucking in each room. That's so common. No, man. Nah, that shit scared of shit. I thought Shorty was lining me up. I'm going to be honest. I've never experienced having sex with a girl that's renting a room and an apartment.

You didn't ask the questions at dinner. Like, so who you live with? After she said, let's go to my crib? No. I'm just thinking this was her apartment. She was taking me on a clip off before you went to the dinner so you'd have somewhat of a clear mind. Young and horny, bro. Just young, stupid, and horny.

But I remember in that moment feeling like, yo, I'm about to get like, she lined me up. She got back to her crib. Like, I know dudes that got robbed. behind shit like that. I thought I was next. That was one of the scariest times in my, in my young adult life. By far. After redlining going on to gentrification, New York got very expensive. So people were just trying to find bedrooms that were $1,200. Yeah, but she didn't give me our inner room vibes, though. A little girl having roommates is like terrifies them all. That doesn't scare you? No. And like the, what? Like the prettiest, well put together women aren't

That's the white shit. That's where y'all don't get scared. Y'all don't have like that that like fair meter. Y'all don't, all the people I know that rented a room were black. That's very common. She was black too. I know. I'm saying that's not a white thing. No, I'm saying y'all not scared of shit like that. Oh, no. Cause y'all don't have that. Yeah, y'all invented like extreme sports. Y'all jump out of planes off of moving trains and shit. That's your shit. Conquer land. When I'm from, we're not going to nobody's apartment and there's three randos that live in these other rooms that you don't even speak to? Okay. As opposed to what? Let's say she.

live with two of her brothers and they was bloods. What's the difference than the Craigslist guy? Who probably works a nice job in midtown just trying to make ends meet. Because at least these are your brothers. Like you know them. So they definitely going to kill you. Not the roommates that don't care about her unless she's not washing the ditches. She don't know these dudes. She don't even speak to them. They don't even see each other. They barely walk past each other. And to me that may be safer than the gang member brothers that actually are upset that you're there. Nah, hell Nah, because she can control her brothers a little bit. Strangers?

She can't control no random niggas from the Bronx. That's so common. Nah, brother. I've never done it and never will, but that is extremely. Never saw that girl again. That was it. Well, I mean, this was before semen retention. Yeah, that's why I brought it up.

So I know you finished and then continue. This was before it was unlawful to release your genetic material. But that would have been your excuse when you heard the doorknob. Yeah. You know what? Mississippi is going to come up to New York. Yeah, yeah. Genetic material

Never again Never fuck a girl that's rent in the room Don't do it I mean I don't know All the red flags I've ignored And I just don't think that would be the one That would bother me that much Nah bro that's crazy

I'm never ever doing that Well obviously not now But I don't even think I know Doos that Like any of my friends that did that You might be my only The only guy I know that Actually like went into it knowingly

To a girl's apartment She was renting a room with other dudes that lived there. And you might be the only guy I know that did not know that was the thing. Yeah, that's crazy. Pige, you definitely. I've rented rooms with women before

that lived there. It's a very common. Like you lived with them. Yeah. That's different though, because you ran the room. You don't think the girl got any dick while Pige was living there?

Yeah, but you wasn't knocking her down, no. No. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. But she had a mall come through to knock her down while Pige was there. While Pige was knocking something else down, allegedly. Because we don't want to put that on. Crazy to me.

We all in here just randos don't know each other and we just in the same, it's the same crib, same apartment, we all just say it's fucking. So because it's such a common thing, I've had these debates with my friends that have done that before and they have said they prefer it better because I've had best friends that I moved into apartments with and started to resent them based off their habits and leaving dishes and certain, you know, electricity bill not being paid on time. A lot of people prefer. that because there's no real strings attached. I don't really care if this person likes me or not. We just live in this house. Do your fucking chores, your job. We'll put a system together,

and we don't even need to speak. A lot of people prefer that. As opposed to me that's gotten in full-blown fucking fights with my childhood friends of 20 years because he didn't clean the fucking spoon. Yeah, but it's still, you still not going to tell me that you would rather roommate with randoms than over a friend. You know, you're not, you know, I wouldn't, but I do understand that perspective, they don't want to fight with their friends about the living shit. They'd rather... I'll fight with a friend any day before I just

continue to walk past a random and I'm like, yo, he'd be in here just leaving shit all over. Because you got to say something, you can't be a punk. Yeah. And this is a random guy that you don't know. Because of course, your female roommate is, of course, I mean, she can't drive Uber, but she's definitely entitled to bring a guy home. Can't drive Uber. And have consensual sex, yeah. As long as she's home

before the street lights come on. Yeah. And She cleans the kitchen and bathroom. I don't. Congestion prices. But we pay the same amount of rent, of course. But she does more of the chores because, come on. I would feel away with strange men being in my apartment. I'd feel away.

Of course you would. You coming back from the bar. You know this guy? Like, my PlayStation's right there. That's what I'm saying. Of course you would. If it's randoms? Now, if she said she lived with her brothers, oh, I'm not, like, it's still a long couple.

Like, damn. Sibling's still. Yeah, but it's different. It's different than a random dude from the other side of the borough that you don't know and you only see maybe twice out of the week. Like, that's just crazy. What was your excuse to get out of the house? I just left.

You just nutted and you ill like that? No, I was like, yo, it was late at that time it was like one, two in the morning. I was like, yeah, I'm out of, I'm out to go home. Still follow her? No. She sounds, if she was renting a room, she sounds like the type that probably deactivated her Twitter and now has four or five kids. Probably.

Somewhere in Hudson Valley. She was cool, though. We had like a cool night. Like, we went out and shit. went to eat and all that. Like, she was cool. Like, but that was the most, that was the curveball out of nothing. Like that, bro, like, talking about it, I remember feeling in that moment, like,

I'm about to get fucked up. Like, I remember feeling like that type of fear, like, damn, I'm going to have to fight these dudes to get out of here. Luckily, her room was close to the door, the front door, but I had to go to the bathroom. They right there in the living room. I'm like, yo, wait, these are your room? She's like, yeah, I don't know them. Three fucking toothbrushes.

Yeah, that's a lot. I'm like, you don't know. She's like, nah. them like maybe once a week, like in passing, if I'm walking out, one that it might be coming. And I'm just like, what? Did you have flashbacks to when you were in high school and all those bloods were outside your door when you were trapped in that apartment? It's like 1A, 1B.

That was the scariest. But like, being in a girl's apartment and you thinking that she lives by herself, come to find out she's renting a room and two other men live in that apartment that she does not. know. Yeah, that's some scary shit, bro. I'm with you. That's some scary shit. That would have been a good voicemail, actually, for you to send to us. About that experience? Yeah, like, how should I feel about this entire thing? What would you do in this situation? What would you do if your son was at home? Just young and dumb, man. Young and dumb. Speaking of which, do we have voicemail speech? Yes, we do. You've got mail. Hey, Roy, Mom, DeMaris. So my question for y'all

is, could you still watch a podcast after they directly disrespected you. To a long story short, I called in last week about the thing that happened with Scotty Pimpin, the thing that went viral. You guys proceeded to listen to my music, which I appreciated. But I felt like Ma, like, he overdid it. Like, you know what I agree with you. I felt like if he would have listened, got a chance to listen to, you know, maybe another song,

he might have, you know, had a different opinion. opinion. It's not too much, him not liking the song I didn't really take to heart. It was the stuff he kind of said around it, like calling me a Cloud Chaser, calling me weak at rapping, you know, saying like I'm trashed when I'm honestly really not. And a couple other things. And my biggest thing is I've been watching you guys for years, literally since the old pod. When you guys started this pod, I followed you guys over to the next pod. And now it's like it's hard watching that shit. You know what I'm saying? Because I said the song was trash.

After somebody on the pot, just shit it all over my dreams. So what? What should I do? Get a new dream, nigga. Oh my God. Go back to sleep and dream bigger. Yo, what I said about his song. Okay, so this is to do.

Why don't you encourage him is that you didn't particularly like the songs that he over and that maybe you should go back to the drawing board but still stay focused and you know hone his craft a little bit better all right which camera at peace this one hello sir so i listened to your music it didn't really stick with me it didn't really resonate with me but i think that you should chase your dreams and i think that you should go back to the drawing board and create a new song and then send that in and i'll give it another listen i apologize if i offended you thank you for supporting Rory and Moore all of these years. We appreciate you. Nobody believe that.

So why when I'm honest, and I say, shit, I'm the bad guy? No, I appreciate you doing that. Like, what the, yeah. I think I even said, I was like, all right, you're going a little two in right now. He's an artist. He's sensitive. I wasn't, I didn't, I don't mean to, don't give up on your dreams, sir. Chase your dreams. My word is not the final word. Somebody would love your music. I know we, we said his name, I think, last time, but I forgot what it was. I will tell him a story.

And that was some cloud chasing shit he did with Scottie Pippman. I'll down that hill. That was cloud chasing shit. Scotty was going after his girl. He just happened to be right there. Yeah, you don't got to record it. That's where the cloud chasing comes to that. Punch Scotty in his fucking face.

Don't do that. Record it. If he's going at your girl. I don't think he was disrespectful, like grabbing her or anything. He was just trying to. You punching somebody because they yell a comment? So you think, so you don't think that was cloud chasing? Uh,

No, because I think everyone just pulls, I think that's the standard now. I think what used to be cloud chasing is still cloud chasing. And what we viewed as cloud chasing is so minimal and so standard right now of everyone in the world. They're pulling their phones out at a moment. I think we view crazier shit than that as actual cloud chasing now. I'm not saying I'm happy about that process. Bro, he used Scotty Pippen Choked Me as a promo for his music. You only talked about his music.

Good marketing. No, it's not. It's cloud chasing. Maybe him and Scotty are going on. joint tour. You know what? It could be good marketing. It's still cloud chasing. Yeah. Okay. Anytime you pull your phone out and start making a selfie video as a man and there's a fucking Hall of Fame basketball player standing next to you and you start talking like, yo, I'm with Scotty. Bro, that's cloud chasing shit. What's the exact definition of cloud chasing?

You know what it is. You know what cloud chasing. No, because I hate doing that because everything starts to get legs and become its own definition based on how we view it. What is the exact thing? The term of cloud chasing is something used to refer to the act of pursuing fame in a certain way. Now, can you name is... Is the act of trying to gain fame or influence often in a desperate

or questionable way? Was that not questionable, would he... That video? Sure. Now... Did he not try to gain fame by that or influence? Can you name me one artist ever that has not tried to gain fame or influence

often in a desperate or questionable way? I'm not saying that people don't do it. I'm saying that that doesn't mean it's not clout chasing. Just because everybody's doing it doesn't mean it's not cloud chasing. Okay. And my thing is, if he wants to be an artist, what's wrong with him cloud chasing? I'm not saying nothing is wrong with it. Was Jay Z Sunshine Cloud Chasing?

I'm not saying there's anything wrong with it. He wore a throwaway big beat. That's Clout chasing. But he's an artist, artist clout chase. I'm not saying it's anything wrong with it. He's taking the offense to be calling him a cloud chasing. I believe he took a cloud chasing. offense to it. So, all right, my question is, why wouldn't an artist cloud chase? He wants to get his

music. Bro, cloud chase. Do whatever you got to do to get some music. But then don't be mad and call back in when I say he was cloud chasing. I think all artists should cloud chase just do it not in the least nastiest way you can. Great. Was that, was that not nasty? It was nasty on Scottie Pippen's behalf. It was nasty on his behalf, too. He recorded it. We all got to protect Scottie. We would have never known about that incident had he not pulled out of his phone and chased him moment. Well, young man, I will say I heard this story about Jerry Seinfeld. So consider them all Jerry Seinfeld in this story. From what I'm told, any time a comment comes up to Jerry Seinfeld and tells them, you know, my dream has become a stand-up. I've done this, I've done that.

Jerry Seinfeld says, you will never make it. That's stupid. Come on, you're not talented enough to make it in this game. And Jerry's theory in that is, if I said that and it stopped you from pursuing your dream, you were never going to make it anyway. So he thinks. purposely tells people that. So you are Jerry Seinfeld is what I'm trying to say. No, I'm all. And I thought his song wasn't good. I'm sorry.

Don't let him all stop you. I'm sorry if I used the wrong words if I offended you, sir. I'm sorry. I didn't mean to offend you. I don't know you. It's not personal. Don't take it personal. I just didn't think that the song Rory clicked on.

That's on your page, which is highlighted because that's probably a song you think is your best song. It's on your page. I thought that was good advice. Yeah. You got to switch that one up to the one that you think. Yeah. Whichever you think is your best one?

Send it. I'll listen to it. Matter of fact, send a new voicemail with your new record. We'll play it as a voicemail. Listen to it. I won't say anything, but I'm going to play the voicemails after that where they shit on your record if it's trash. Now, I think to your point of cloud chasing, and my point in cloud chasing,

where they meet is, if you are going to clout chase, as artists should, make sure you have your socials and your next step already lined up with that. If you're going to wrap over the video of you and Scotty Pippen in the streets, Make sure that you have all your music pin that you like, your best representation of you out already. Where it seems like that wasn't the case with him. Because I was clicking shit that I think he even DMA.

Like, that's not the one that represents me. Well, clean up your socials when you're going to do. Oh, so he sent you a record. I think he DMA. I'm not going to go through my DMs to find everything. But I remember he replied and there was more music. Okay. So if you're going to Cloud Chase, as you should, make sure everything after that is set up right.

Maybe that record just wasn't it. Maybe you got another record that I'm like, Okay, just do decide. But let's hear it. Send us your best record. Okay. We have another voicemail, Pete? Yeah, we do.

Good morning, one. Good morning, all. My name is Chris from California. A little bit of background on me before I asked my question. I just left 12 years in the military as an IT professional. And I work at XYZ company as a supervisor. So my question is, what's going on without this red pill, blue pill, alpha-mill stuff? Because now that I'm out and I work with more younger IT nerd, I see that it's more apparent with these guys than it was in the military.

And I was just trying to see what you guys' thoughts on it. And yeah, that's it. Hopefully and respectfully, maybe Baby D can go last on this because I know she probably has strong opinions, but I'll love to hear you guys opinion about it. Thank you, guys. What's this question? Essentially, all right, he came from the military and now works in... a department with IT guys, he said, correct? So he's used to more of the

masculine world with the military. And he notices that it's more of the IT guys that lean into the Red Pill masculine podcast world, media worlds. So he's asking, why is that when the super masculine guys don't even subscribe to that type of shit? That's how I interpret it.

I could be wrong. Piz, do you think I interpreted that correctly? Yeah, maybe he's saying, like, those guys were, chronically online and they're like subjected to getting red-pilled. Yeah. Okay. I think I want to go with what I assumed Demaris's answer would be.

Those guys don't get pussy so they lean into the guys like fresh and fit that make it the woman's fault of why you never got pussy. Yeah. You don't want those girls at all and this is why. And then they try to frame it as I'm saving their lives. It's like, now I think he's all right. Well, it's just, it's based on, all that is based on insecurities. Yeah. The guys in the military obviously are out daily, physical, in shape, you know, strong,

because you've got to kind of beat all of those things to be in the armed forces. Versus guys who are just, you know, online every day and not really like, you know, socially, you know, some of them, most of them are socially awkward. Yeah, I mean, it makes sense. Versus guys that are actually outside amongst people being physical and having their limits, tested daily, physically, mentally, spiritually. Yeah, it's going to be a difference. Like, he's going to absolutely notice that coming from that environment and now dealing with guys that, you know, don't want to do anything other than sit online all day and listen to podcast about

other insecure men screaming about shit. Yeah, you're going to see the difference. Yeah, and I'm just talking about women now as far as the stereotypical red pill podcast is shaming horse and women. And I think a lot of the people, that just lived in their basement already have some type of resentment towards women because they never really interacted with them or maybe tease them. Cool, I can understand that. So they see, yes, they see these guys screaming at 20-year-old whores in Miami and are like, yes, get them. That reminds me of the girl that made fun of me and didn't give me pussy. Turn me down. And that's just the women's side. As far as the rest of Red Pill, when you get into the politics

side, I think a lot of people that stay inside just on their computer are easily red-pilled because they don't interact with human beings in person that often. And I'm not trying to say that being the pussy liberal side is the way. But how a lot of pussy liberals exist is because they interact with different groups of people all the time and have a bit more empathy to the entire world. Rather than the person that is looking at the logistics of like, yeah, our economy is in the whole, get this immigrant the fuck out of here, look at the stats. The stats show that this needs to change. I can easily see someone that doesn't leave their house taking those stats and going, yes, red pill me. This country's going to shit. Instead of the person that is outside interacting

with the so-called enemy of the state, which is minorities, they may look at things differently. Absolutely. So I think, again, that's what he was asking between those two. And I don't know, maybe I went on a rant that didn't have anything to do with it. But I don't know, there's some quote unquote red pill pods and media that I like. I saw something yesterday that had the leaders of the Red Pill podcast society. They had Shane Gillis and Bobby Lee on the list. And I was like, all right, I'm not even reading this article. Because I went into it. It had Schultz, Rogan, like the typical headline with the photos. And I was like, oh, this could be an interesting article,

just of how podcast has shifted a lot of men into the right and into the red pill time. And they put how many times, Trump went to see them, this and that. Then I went down to the representatives. And Shane Gillis was like number three. Like, all right, what are we doing here? Yeah.

I don't know. I mean, I think that is all entertaining. I think that people that put too much stock into that shit, that's when it gets a little weird. I think you can listen to a lot of these podcasts and all of this information that's out there, whether it's Rogan, whether it's Andrew Tate or whoever it may be. I just think you have to take all of that shit with a grain of salt and laugh at it. But get out in the real world, interact, mingle with people. I always go to that.

But as soon as people stop doing too much of that, that's when you start becoming a little, you know, your views get a little weird. And the way you, you know, handle yourselves in public sentences, it's like, yo, this dudes are weird. You can sense the guys when they start going a little too far down the rabbit hole. You're like, all right, he's completely gone. I mean, I just think it's funny with a lot of the Red Pill community. Like Andrew Tate, for example, yes, preaches that don't let these women take advantage of you, take your money, take your heart. Don't let them drop over that night.

This entire thing. Don't act like you are not also taking advantage of quote unquote weak men and filling their mind. Yes, you come back and be like, well, I tell them just to do pushups and eat right and respect themselves. Yeah. It's not all you say, man. Right. Everyone is arguing about who can take more advantage of the weaker men that just want to follow and be sheep. And then they just blame it on horse.

And I'm like, no, you're doing that so you can take advantage of the sheep and so that they can give you money. Like, let's not act like you're doing some noble thing here. I mean, wouldn't, would you consider somebody like David Koresh to be one of the... I mean... No? He prayed on, you know, mentally weak. physically weak. Married in cells.

Like, yeah, yo, let me fuck your wife. Okay, David. Yeah, exactly. Same type of shit. In the name of Jesus, of course. Well, yeah, obviously, not the name of... So you're saying, fresh and fit is David Koresh, aka Jesus. Offsprings.

Those are like, some of the seeds that he planted. And now they're sprouting. Alfalfa sprouts. Now they just have high-rise condos in Miami. Yeah. Instead of the middle of fucking. Instead of the middle of fucking Texas. Yeah, an old house in the middle of Texas.

No, now they live on fucking South Beach. Oh, that's funny. David Corresh in this era, that would be an awesome experiment to see if you could do with time travel. How would David Koresh, with his cult-like ego, navigate in this world? Because he'd probably have a podcast. David Koresh with social media? Yes. How would he navigate?

I think he would navigate very similar to people like Tate. Yeah, I think he would. be on Rogan and I think even me would be like, hmm, he's bringing up some points. You would think David Koresh had some points. I didn't think of it that way, David. You would think that. That's exactly what you would think about. It's easy, even when you're not that impressionable, like to catch a clip out of context,

not even knowing this person and the rest of their values and go, yeah, that point does make sense. And then you realize what that point is attached to, which is a much greater thing. And that point has nothing to do with that. It's just to get people with a clip to go, huh, this guy seems like he's relatively smart. And then they always hit you with, well, you know, if you don't believe it, then you don't believe in God.

Once they say that, what's your comeback? Once somebody said, oh, that's what God said. That's what God believes. Talk to the aliens. Exactly. Well, this was fun. Again, please everyone shower Baby Dee with positive comments, prayers to her and her family at this moment.

And we'll be back. We'll be back in a couple of days. Everybody, be safe. Be blessed. I'm that nigga. He's just ginger. Peace. A win is a win.

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